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From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:58:56 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f7v0g$31e$1@news.xmission.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eric Hermanson <eric@running-start.com> wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created > and saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. This has come up many times; Andy Stone made a helpful post to his OPENSTEP mailing list which answers the problem pretty well. I'm appending it to this message--hopefully Andy won't mind. :-) Something like this probably ought to be added to a developer FAQ somewhere...StepWise might be a good place--Scott? :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:42:04 -0700 Old-Return-Path: andrew From: Andrew Stone <andrew@stone.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:41:48 -0700 To: OpenStep-NT@droid Subject: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: andrew@stone.com X-Url: „http://www.stone.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/18 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com How To make ICO's for your project: 1. On MACH using IconBuilder: a. Remove alpha from 48 by 48 <NAME>.tiff b. if you use white in your icon that is not meant to be transparent,floodfill the transparent areas with an unused primary color, such as green In IconPro on NT, you'll add back in the transparency on this color c. Save As... <NAME>48.tiff d. Save As... <NAME>32.tiff e. Run pagelayout and reduce size to 32 by 32, choose "Scale" f. Fix the bits where they got ugly g. Repeat, this time for <NAME>16.tiff, sized to 16 by 16 2. On MACH using OmniImage: a. open each of three tiffs in OmniImage b. Choose Save As... and select the .bmp format from popup. creating <NAME>48.bmp <NAME>32.bmp and <NAME>16.bmp 3. On NT using IconPro ( a demo program from MSDN - I can't give this out - check the web) a. File->New Icon b. Edit->Add Format... Do this up to 6 times with these formats: 16 * 16 4 bit 16 * 16 8 bit 32 * 32 4 bit 32 * 32 8 bit 48 * 48 4 bit 48 * 48 8 bit c. For each format: 1. select Edit->Import BMP 2. Choose <NAME>16.bmp for the 16 * 16, etc. that is, select the correct BMP for the size you are working on. d. In the lower left view is the XOR Mask 1. Control-Click on the color representing the transparency (eg green in the example above) e. Save the <NAME>.ico file in your project directory 4. Repeat steps 1 - 3 for document icons with file extensions 5. In Project Builder on either OS a. bring up Project Attributes Inspector b. choose OPENSTEP for Windows popup. c. Drag in the appIcon.ico into the app icon well d. For each document type: 1. click Add 2. type in file extension 3. type in <NAME>.ico for that type (it will appear in well if it's cool) e. Save project 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF YOU CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you figure this out! 7. Now, from the directory above the appwrapper, in a terminal type: registerBundle <APPNAME>.app When you double click files, the app will open them (if you implement - (BOOL)application:(NSApplication *)sender openFile:(NSString *)path, that is!). When you drag your .exe into a Program Folder, the "correct" icon will show - although it may look pretty bad if you've been using NeXTSTEP for 8 years! Thanks to gracious Ali Ozer and Mike Monegan for their suggestions, the key ones of which I have herein enclosed: From: Ali Ozer <Ali_Ozer@next.com> To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico MSDN comes with a sample program called "IconPro" which lets you create multi-image ico files. You specify the depths and sizes of the images you want in the ico (typically 32x32, 256 color + 16x16, 256 color), then import icos or bmps into the various images. Unfortunately I can't make the program available because I don't think it is freely distributable. Assuming you have access to IconPro, your problem reduces to converting tiffs to bmp. The "Imaging" program which comes with NT4.0 is able to deal with tiffs without alpha; you can remove alpha from your tiffs, feed it into this program, save bmp, the import the bmp into IconPro... Something more sophisticated like Photoshop can probably also do this. Note that ico files do allow for 1-bit transparency (basically a mask). Turns out IconPro has a semi-hidden feature which allows you to restore transparency into your images --- in the XOR view, ctrl-click on the areas you want to be transparent. I think it will do a flood-fill to make the specified area transparent. BTW, I believe most of the NeXT icos were created from scratch. If you try scaling your beautiful 48x48 icos down to 32x32 automatically you might also decide this is the best way to go... Ali From: Mike Monegan <Mike_Monegan@next.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:04:34 -0800 To: andrew@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico REDUX There is a program run at build time called regGen, which generates an object file containing your ico's you put in the app's project inspector in PB. The ico's are placed at specific indices in the app's binary and referred to in the appResources.reg (also output by regGen). Thus, registerBundle loads up the registry references to the ICO's in your binary. Each time registerBundle is run, it overwrites the previous registration for the app. ... --- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com „http://www.stone.com !! ||<<->>||< How you perceive reality morphs it >||<<->>|| Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:33:46 -0700 Old-Return-Path: aisbell@ix.netcom.com From: Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:12:05 -0800 To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/19 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com Thanks very much to Andrew for the great ICO-ICO HowTo (now sing along, folks :-) > 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o > file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF > YOU > CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets > > rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you > figure this out! Would something like the following NT-specific Makefile.postamble entry help: appResources.o: $(APPICON) $(DOCICONS) The specific make macros may be different depending on OS version. --- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: bungi@omnigroup.com (Timothy J. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can Citrix WinFrame be used to distribute OSE windows? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:37:10 -0800 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5f7tnm$e9@gaea.titan.org> References: <5f4cei$8n3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Sure can. We are doing this currently. There are some gotchas though: - Each user has to set the variable NSSESSIONNAME to their environment to some unique value. This changes the port names that various servers (like the WindowServer and pbs) vend to client applications. Happily, WinCenter/Pro (the version of WinFrame that we are using) exports a %WINSTATIONNAME% variable that is set to WinCenter#001.. WinCenter#NNN automatically based on which virtual terminal you are connected to. Unhappily, you can't set this variable in the system wide preferences and have it get substituted correctly (NSSESSIONNAME will get set to the literal value rather than the interpreted value). One workaround is the have each user define this variable in their user environment variables. This sucks, so I wrote a little program that inserts the correct variable in the registry and then added the program to the startup group. - NeXT doesn't have all of the kinks worked out in the NSSESSIONNAME support in 4.1. It's pretty solid, but there are a few problems with ProjectBuilder talking with gdb and sometimes applications will incorrectly decide that you are already running a copy of that app and will exit after attempting to tell the supposed original copy to order front (hopefully fixed for 4.2). - The performance isn't blazing. OPENSTEP does use GDI, just not very wisely. This is a good and bad thing. Good since the WindowServer isn't cluttered with a ton of GDI code and bad since the way they did use GDI was to have the WindowServer draw into the window with a bitblt. That is, when you send the image across the net to your Xterm, you are sending a bit image. If you are using some NEC Xterms, though, the image will get compressed on the wire (the WinFrame manuals talk about this). - The color palette code is not that good. X terms have a specific color map and if you use a color not in that map, it will show up so something else, typically gray. This is only a problem on certain Xterms and only if you are in 8bit indexed color mode. For example, Solaris in 8bpp experiences this bug. On the good side, you can use it with some success with co-Xist (pretty slow) and not have to log into NT. Also, WinCenter contains support for serving as an XDM. If you set your terminal up to use the WinCenter machine as its XDM server (or if it is on the same subnet and your Xterm find it via broadcast), then you will get a normal NT login panel -- you can barely tell you are using X windows. Drop me a line if you have any more specific questions. I may not have the time to answer really detailed questions, but I may have a quick answer since this is what I've been doing for the past six months :) -tim aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > Citrix offers what appears to be a GDI window server and client. This >allows Windows apps to run on a computer running a Citrix-modified version of >Windows NT which with their windows appearing on remote computers running >Citrix window server software. This is analogous to NSHosting or the more >common X Window window client/server technology. > But since OSE windows aren't "pure" GDI windows (a DPS window server >draws the window contents), we wonder whether Citrix will work with OSE apps. >Does anyone know? >-- >Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com >Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 >OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 > managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 15:53:39 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <3315F453.4BA6@worldbank.org> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hiroshi TOMARU wrote: > I have skimmed Apple's web pages but could not find the answer: > (1) Will OPENSTEP standard applications (such as WorkSpace, Edit, > etc.) run in Rhapsody? I would assume that there would be functional equivalents to these apps. > (2) Will current third-party applications for NEXTSTEP run in > Rhapsody? Not as is. But if my reading of the material on the Openstep site is right, any Openstep app will probably only require a recompile. > (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? Even though this thought seems to terrify some Mac people, I would expect that yes, they would, through a terminal window. All based on intelligent conjecture based on what's been said so far, not on any inside knowledge. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:52:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5f7ujt$bjm$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Cc: eric@running-start.com In <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Eric Hermanson wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are > several problems: > > 1. I haven't been able to find an application that goes from .tiff --> > .ico that runs on Windows or NEXTSTEP. If I could find an app that does > this, that would be great! > > 2. Assuming I won't be able to find a solution for #1, I'm also trying > to find a Windows program that will read in NEXTSTEP .tiff files and > convert them to .bmp or even .gif. I'm assuming it might be easier to > find an app that goes from .bmp to .ico. How about a Nextstep program for .tiff -> .bmp and/or .gif? OmniImage.app from OmniGroup does this. Or, you could try working with pbmtools. > 3. If I can get #2, I still need the .bmp --> .ico converter! Not sure if there's an easy way to do that or not. > If anyone has experience converting NeXT .tiff images (which may or may > not contain alpha transparency) into Windows .ico files, please drop me > a line. I do have some experience transfering images between NeXT tiff and Windows bmp formats.. and almost invariably I found that Nextsteps tools are far superior to the Windows tools. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 1 Mar 1997 04:29:06 GMT Organization: Vancouver CommunityNet Message-ID: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also got no reply. Whats up with these guys?
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:38:38 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8fcu$qop@news.platinum.com> References: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> it appeared that "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 5:47 AM, Mark Trombino <mailto:mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> > wrote: > > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support > > internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever > > used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! > > The UI is great on RadicalNews, but the performance on my Turbo Cube is > slow as molasses even with a 28.8 connection. That Kiwi Newsreader is much > faster, but I don't know if it supports MIME. Hmm... I'm running RadicalNews on a TurboSlab, and it performs pretty well. (I do have a T1 to the net, but it's high-traffic most of the time.) I do have the slow link box checked in the preferences-NewsSources panel. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: jjhuang@min.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Virtual Desktop in NeXTSTEP/OpenStep? Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:36:04 GMT Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan Message-ID: <5f8f84$otq@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello, I think maybe many people used Virtual Desktop in fvwm(an X Window Manager) or that in Win95, I think this function is very useful in small monitor, ex. 15 inch, even 17" monitor. Virtual Desktop is that I have 1024x768 region to use, but only display at 800x600 resolution. And the dock is at the position of 1024x768 and not go with your view of 800x600. This function must come with Display Driver, because many Display Card support Virtual Desktop if your RAM on Display Card enough. I used VirtScreen. It is not so good, but still usable. But VirtScreen is only demo version now, I can't see any order method. Is there Virtual Desktop Driver on NeXTSTEP? Or how can I purchase VirtScreen? Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: jjhuang@min.dorm12.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is there French dictionary? Date: 1 Mar 1997 06:22:39 GMT Organization: Dept. Comp. Sci. & Info. Eng., Chiao-Tung Univ., Taiwan Message-ID: <5f8hvf$qch@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello, Recently I begin to learn French, and I wonder if there is French dictionary in NeXTSTEP? I want both French-French and French-English. Commercial or Free are all ok. And if commercial, please tell me how to order and how much. Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 1 Mar 1997 06:35:01 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm100-08.dialip.mich.net Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f8iml$8k4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Cc: phm@eqt.ch In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? > > > Regards > Phil > > Hi, I just copy and paste from OmniWeb to Edit.app or any other apps. Works fine for me, except that the links look a little funny - they look _like this_ instead of being blue. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: phm@eqt.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: html2rtf Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:59:28 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Summary: html2rtf Keywords: html2rtf Hi Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? Regards Phil
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:19:53 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5f70j9$3rt$3@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: >I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not >have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. >How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the >400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi >printer. Look for ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Text/tex/library/600dpi.V1.d.ta r.gz Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 09:21:50 GMT Message-ID: <331cf4e7.2448942@news.demon.co.uk> References: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote: >Andy Warne (andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk) wrote: >: My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy >: one! >: I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two >: Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. >: >: [...] >: >: I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing >: and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a >: 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating >: system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). >: Has anyone any ideas? Please? > >Try this: > >Install OpenStep on Disk A (sd0). (I assume this is already done.) > >Run fdisk on Disk B (sd1), first deleting all partitions then creating >a single NeXT partition which fills the disk. > >Run "disk -i -p 4000000 /dev/rsd1h" to initialize Disk B with the >first partition size set to 4000000 blocks (2GB) and the second >holding any remaining space. (Watch the diagnostic output. If the >size it's using for the first partition is wrong, abort with Control-C >and retry the command, adjusting the block count appropriately. I >think 4000000 might overflow, so you might try 3800000 or something.) > >Mount Disk B's first partition: "mount -v /dev/sd1a /DiskB". > >Copy the first partition of Disk A to Disk B with the command: > > dump 0f - / | (cd /DiskB; restore rf -) > >Shut down your machine, renumber your SCSI disks so Disk B is sd0 and >Disk A is sd1 (so you can boot off Disk B and play with Disk A), and >repeat the above procedure to set up Disk A as desired. > >Hope this helps! >-- >Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com >Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com This nearly worked but /etc/disk split the remaining disk space into 2 again resulting in 3 partitions! I wrote a disktab entry in the end. Andy.
From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 11:10:17 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0103971211560001@129.194.16.71> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> > (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? > > These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. > It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL > hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art > applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows > applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS > applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's > worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. > --- > Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji > hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB) www.macintouch.com today had the following message: Rhapsody should include the option of a scriptable, command-line interface, according to one reader: "Noting that NeXTStep allows a user to drop into a command-line with either a c-shell or k-shell, I asked whether there would be a way to get to the command line in Rhapsody. The answer was 'yes.' Not only that, but I was told that my all my shell scripts should work as-is when brought to the new system." End of quote Jorg Schumacher Geneva Switzerland
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Please help! How do I install a printer? Date: 1 Mar 1997 13:05:48 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5f99jc$1p6@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> In-Reply-To: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> On 02/28/97, andreas@lynet.de wrote: > But what to do now. There's nearly no printed documentation, > and I do not know how to print something. > I think you should find most of the documentation you need online -- try using Librarian.app to search through /NextLibrary/Documentation > - How do I install a printer? > Use /NextApps/PrintManager.app -- it's fairly straightforward. > I would like to connect to the Internet and get a driver > for my ELSA 2000 AVI. > > - Is there a driver for that adapter out there? > Not sure -- there's one for ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X -- will that do? > - What about an WWW-Browser and dialer to establish > a PPP-Connection to my Provider. > There are two excellent WWW browsers, NetSurfer and OmniWeb: http://www.netsurfer.com/ http://www.omnigroup.com/ I'll leave the PPP question for others! Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Michel Coste <mic@micmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software for microtek scanner? Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:05:40 GMT Organization: MiCMAC Sender: news@micmac.com Message-ID: <E6D2tG.Js@micmac.com> References: <5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Cc: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de This was written in comp.sys.next.software (<5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de>) by Bergmann Winfried: > Hello, > I just got a used Microtek ScanmakerII. I works under Windows, but I'd like > to use it with NS. Is there any scanner software, which works with this? > (I already tried ScanMaker, but it doesn't recognice my scanner). > > thanx > winfried > > Like me you have no chance at all. _NO_ NeXTstep scanner software works with Microtek scannners!!! =:((((((((( mc
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 14:17:20 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Hiroshi TOMARU (hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp) wrote: : (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? The Mach microkernel will be used, so I would assume the answer is yes. : These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. : It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL : hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art : applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows : applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS : applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's : worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. I love the PPC arcitecture, but you shouldn't have to switch. Rhapsody will also be available for Intel (I have heard nothing of the other openstep systems) Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 17:04:27 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm285-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Cc: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu In <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> GEOF ABRUZZI wrote: > Hiroshi TOMARU (hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp) wrote: > : (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? > The Mach microkernel will be used, so I would assume the answer is yes. > > : These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. > : It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL > : hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art > : applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows > : applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS > : applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's > : worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. > I love the PPC arcitecture, but you shouldn't have to switch. Rhapsody > will also be available for Intel (I have heard nothing of the other > openstep systems) > But it will not run the old Mac software. The backward compatibility might be important at least for a few years. I am thinking about PowerMac with Rhapsody and an Intel board inside. That way one would get OpenStep, old Mac software and Wintel compatibility too. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: David Carpenter <dcarpent@voicenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Framemaker and Openstep 4.1 Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 13:10:41 -0500 Organization: none Message-ID: <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me, based on their own experience, whether Framemaker 3.0 runs under Openstep 4.1? I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade from Nextstep 3.1 to Openstep 4.1, and I have a lot of documents in Framemaker. Thanks in advance for any help. David Carpenter dcarpent@sju.edu
From: "Jean Paul Ladue" <jpladue@telerama.lm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep for Intel. Date: 1 Mar 1997 19:08:24 GMT Organization: Stargate Industries, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. -- ------------------------------- Email: jpladue@telerama.lm.com jpladue@sgi.net WWW: http://www.lm.com/~jpladue -- "Once I was a happy space pirate looting and pillaging, then POOF I'm as dumb as a doornail." -- ++==-- Brak, Cartoon Planet --==++
From: jjh@powwow.eng.sun.com (Jim Holmlund) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: 01 Mar 1997 19:09:28 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <JJH.97Mar1110928@powwow.eng.sun.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> In-reply-to: Michael Lewis's message of Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:19:04 -0500 > > 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive > by > just clicking onto a different display area. > > This is one of the main reasons I  don't use Openstep at work ( I do at > home ). > You can run OpenStep under CDE. Just start CDE and then run openstep from a shell. The last time I tried this, there were some problems, but you can experiment with it, for example try it with oswm and then with dtwm. > the mailer is 'cute' but it lacks some basic features like it can't > auto include > signatures or auto-intend/include the original mail you are replying > to. Version 1.1 will append your .signature file to outgoing msgs. In the compose window, clicking the Forward (I think) button includes the original msg. You can then use the Wrap and Reply Terminal service to prepend '> ' to the original lines. Not as easy as vm in xemacs, but ... (Version 1.1 contains a menu item in the Compose menu to do all this with one click.) > One feature I'm trying to figure out myself is how to set the icon image > > and Dock image for non-openstep apps. Currently the are all assigned > the same terminal image which makes it hard to tell what the app really > does. > We have a script that will do this. If you are interested, let me know and I will see if I can send it to you. We also have an app to do this with a GUI, but I don't think it made it into the 1.1 release. (You can also look in the Demos directory in the 1.1 release and you will see some examples.) Usage: makeapp [-icon icon-pathname] [-suffix suffix [suffix-icon]]... -prog prog-name [app-name] Make an OpenStep .app wrapper for a Unix command. Ex. makeapp -prog bugtool 'icon-pathname' is the pathname of a .tiff file to use as the icon for the app. If omitted, a default icon will be used. 'suffix' is a suffix to which this app responds and 'suffix-icon' is the pathname of a .tiff file to be used for this suffix. 'prog-name' is the name of the program to run. If it is not an absolute pathname, then it must be locateable via 'which'. 'app-name' is the pathname to create; eg. mine.app. If it is not specified, then ./`basename xeq-name.app` will be used. -- Jim Holmlund - OpenStep Development; jim.holmlund@eng.sun.com
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 1 Mar 1997 19:39:06 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I know, its supposed to be easy. I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the command line gives dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro and neither could I. Attempts to print from TeXView fail without any errors in the app, the console, or /usr/admin/messages. When I downloaded, the sums for the packages latex-base and tetex-base did not correspond to those listed in CHECKSUMS. But repeated attempts to download gave consistent results and installation went without a hitch. The Turbo NeXTStation I am using now never had NeXTTeX on it. I know lots of NeXT folks are using teTeX very happily, but can't figure out how I messed up. Appreciate any help, Babak Ashrafi
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 1 Mar 1997 20:36:49 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5fa411$kbn@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Cc: cfwood@vcn.bc.ca In <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Colin Wood wrote: > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? > I've already ordered the CD over a month ago. The first 2 times I sent e-mail inquiries I never heard back. Yesterday I got an e-mail reply to me 3rd inquiry. So, they are trying to work with potential customers but seem to have some problems. Has anybody in North America rec'd the CD yet? How long from the time you ordered to the time it arrived? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:29:05 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fa731$dia@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> On 02/25/97, Robert Worne wrote: > That's an odd site... under "NEEDS" it states: > > "Animo works under a UNIX-based operating system that allows for reliable > multitasking, built in networking, high-resolution graphics, and an easy to > use interface. It also allows easy integration into mixed SGI, Windows NT > and Macintosh environments." > > UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? > Or are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > No, I think they're giving the NEXTSTEP feature list without mentioning NEXTSTEP per se -- "The OS that dare not speak its name"! :-) A bit like the description of the SignaStation on Linotype's site: http://www.linotype.co.uk/26c2.htm I've heard rumours that Animo is being ported to other systems, though (maybe it already has been and I've not heard?). Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:31:06 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fa76q$djj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> <5f9dpg$1bt6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 03/01/97, Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But it will not run the old Mac software. The backward compatibility might > be important at least for a few years. > In which case you might consider ARDI's Executor running on Intel..? http://www.ardi.com/ Best wishes, mmalc. --
Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 17:41:05 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: midi for openstep Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <857259240.3323@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net> In article <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net>, KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net wrote: > > does anyone know of any good midi sequencing or digital multitrack > recording software for OpenStep Intel? Please point me in the right > direction Here are a few useful links and some apps that might fit the bill. Try these URLS http://www.music.princeton.edu:80/PSK/rt.html http://www.nwlink.com/cyberartists/brianw/sounds.html http://www.singular.com/AD64x.html http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/MusicKit/MusicKit.html Also these are still apparently available: NoteAbility NoteAbility is a professional music notation package for NeXTStep computers. Developed by Dr. Keith Hamel at the University of British Columbia, it is easily the most sophisticated music notation software available on any platform. NoteAbility combines both musical intelligence and graphical flexibility in a direct and intuitive graphical user interface. Notate anything from simple melodies to complex avant garde orchestral music, play the score on your MIDI synthesizer or through your DSP board and print a publishable copy of your score on your PostScript laser printer. The extensive on-line help files included in the program will provide you with all the information you need to install and use this application.If you have been frustrated by the awkwardness and inflexibility of other notation programs then you definitely should have a look at NoteAbility. Pricing Price: $495 Site Licenses: CALL Educational Pricing: Additional Information Demo Available: Opus 1 Music Inc. 449 East 37th Ave. Vancouver, B.C. Canada V5W 1E8 (604) 321-1107 (604) 321-1107 (Fax) opusone@unixg.ubc.ca ProductionPartner ProductionPartner is a professional tool for harddisk-recording, playing, editing and archiving of high quality (CD) sounds. You can rearrange, cut, paste and edit sounds. Sounds can be collected in archives called playlists which are unities within ProductionPartner. Architectures NS for Mach/HP PA/Risc: YES NS for Mach/Intel: YES NS for Mach/m68k: YES NS for Mach/Sparc: YES Pricing Price: CALL Site Licenses: $ 295 Educational Pricing:CALL Additional Information Email:info@rcnhost.dasburo.de_ Demo Available: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/Audio_ Realtime Computing and Nets (RCN)_ Flotowstrasse 2 Berlin Germany D-13583 +49 30 8340107 +49 30 8340108 (Fax) info@rcnhost.dasburo.de -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Freeware/Shareware Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:45:26 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <331913F6.3E338961@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you're looking for NeXT ware for a number of platforms, try the Big Green CD. This is a number of freely available packages compiled for NexXT.... -Mike Allison
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 22:51:11 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really be a screamer for most everything. NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com Thanks, -Mike
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 2 Mar 1997 04:36:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm167-13.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Cc: mallison@konnections.com In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > be a screamer for most everything. > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > Thanks, > > -Mike > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970302.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Mar 1997 00:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: phm@eqt.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 2 Mar 1997 09:11:22 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fbg7q$hs6@uni2f.unige.ch> References: <5f8iml$8k4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> In Re: html2rtf comp.sys.next.software <ArticleDisplayer: 0x904dc> writes, > In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: >> Hi >> >> >> Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? >> I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and > I don©t want to pay too much for it. >> It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t > find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? > Hi, I just copy and paste from OmniWeb to Edit.app or any other apps. Works > fine for me, except that the links look a little funny - they look _like > this_ instead of being blue. At my place, I have several changes compared to the initial layout: Paragraphs are centered, fonts, sizes are different, no bullets, etc. And what do you make with tables? Regards Phil
From: Roberto Fabbretti <Roberto.Fabbretti@dim.hcuge.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling mSQL for Nextstep 3.3 Intel and Motorola Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 12:12:18 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <33196092.356D@dim.hcuge.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine and myself are trying unsuccessfully to compile msql 1.16 on Intel and Motorola platform with no success. On Intel the proble is that after making the target the make all instruction fails because it does not find the include files, in particular <paths.h> On motorola it fails because of a DIRENT problem Has anyone a clue???
From: Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 10:04:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. Thanks in advance for your help. Bob Trout rtrout@capecod.net
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 11:12:09 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <on6OPNC00iWm03O9o0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> In-Reply-To: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Mar-97 Problem with PPP and OmniWeb by Robert Trout@capecod.net > For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with > host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP > address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. Did you set up the resolver by adding nameservers into the /etc/resolv.conf file? Take a look at 'man 5 resolver'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 2 Mar 1997 17:22:13 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi (ashrafi@mit.edu) wrote: : I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from : latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and : deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in : (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. Most likely you have in your old .cshrc various environment variables related to TeX and TeXview (possibly also in your defaults database). REMOVE THEM! You may later add some stuff, if really needed, once you will learn how kpathsea searches work. Also check, with 'texconfig confall', if your configuration is really correct. : I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the : command line gives : dvips: ! Couldn't find header file tex.pro : and neither could I. ..../texmf/dvips/base/tex.pro Are you sure that you are not trying to call and old copy of TeXview and/or dvips? There seem to be still something misconfigured in your installation. As the first test try: dvips -o /dev/null my_new_dvi What happens? If you pick up 'test page' in 'texconfig' menu does it print properly? Michal
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 2 Mar 1997 17:38:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm168-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fcduc$ic7$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Cc: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca > > : I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from > : latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and > : deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in > : (the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. > Hello, in order to run LaTeX2e one doesn't need to install teTeX and new TeXView. I use InstantTeX.app (often in manual mode, without the 'instant tex' option on). In InstantTeX one can chooose two custom versions of TeX. That allows me to use LaTeX2e quite successfully. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: jake@msn.com (Kyle Stoyan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops Subject: Free Winfaxpro Software Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:46:25 GMT Organization: Microsoft Message-ID: <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 visit http://members.tripod.com/~faxsite/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:26:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose) Original Date: 27 Feb 1997 04:27:22 GMT > Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming > email to a specific .mbox when it arrives? > > I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found > mailapp-utilities, but that looks to be command-line driven. As Scott already mentioned, there is some procmail/Mail.app info on my Web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/). The mailapp-utilities are commandline driven, as is procmail. I believe Eloquent is also able to do this, you should find a link to it on that page as well (under 'mail programs' or something terribly complex such as that ;-) procmail really is the way to go. The first step on the learning curve is the hardest, and there's a great procmail mailing list from which I have learned everything I know about procmail. I started using it about 2 years ago, just sorting mailing lists away from my INBOX. Now I've got one set of procmail recipes at peak.org doing presorting and autoresponding, and another set of recipes on my own machine, which does the following: - dumping messages from bad domains (ie known spam-only domains) - automatically updating my list of known-spammers-email addresses (thanks to a spam-list which makes this information very easy to get, add to the killfile, and delete the message) - breaks up email "digests" into individual messages (I read the NeXT newsgroups this way, which has the advantage of being completely readable off-line, USENET posts go through my personal kill files, and the messages are set to be read and replied to through the very same Mail.app that I use all day) - sorts and sorts and sorts In fact, I'm so procmail-crazed that I have hacked ("hacked" in this case meaning held together with paper clips, bubble-gum, duct-tape and prayer) a setup that when mail gets delivered to peak.org it checks to see if I am online via PPP and if so (and if the message is to me and not to a list) then it tells my machine to pop my mail home -- it's like getting instant email delivery through dynamic PPP. Anyway, now you've done it, I've run off about procmail again (and why not, I'd be lost without it). procmail is a powerful, free tool that I'd be lost without. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP NeXTStepping since '91 Use `luomat@peak.org' for any email-contact Remove `luomat@nerc.com' from any trace of your memory
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702251602.LAA19771@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 11:02:24 -0500 Subject: Re: sendmail recipe requested Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - Return-Receipt-To: user@sfasu.edu Responding To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Original Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:36 -0600 Message-ID: dfa41aab0e89c93164b70188cceb23a5 - > Does anyone know a sendmail recipe that will convert > > user@sfasu.edu > to > user@TITAN.sfasu.edu ? > > I.e., I want to replace @sfasu.edu with @TITAN.sfasu.edu on any > outgoing message. sure, put this in an executable file and save as '/usr/local/bin/sendmail-sed' #!/bin/sh sed 's/@sfasu\.edu/@TITAN\.sfasu\.edu/g' | /usr/lib/sendmail "$@" Then change you Mail.app preferences mailer to /usr/local/bin/sendmail-sed You aren't, by change, using sendmail to 'masquerade_ad' "sfasu.edu" but can't send mail to non-local (on your machine) users at 'sfasu.edu" are you? If so I am having the same problem here (using 'peak.org'). Note: that script is quick & dirty and not guaranteed. I actually have not tried it myself but running it through and checking the output the address was changed. There's no reason I can think of that it wouldn't work, but use at your own risk and all that. Please remember to that this script does not discriminate between header and content. That can be done, of course, but requires more hackery. To see an example of how this would be done send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime sendmail-addheadsig or get the file http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/sendmail-addheadsig which shows better how this might be done. TjL
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 2 Mar 1997 23:40:30 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> Cc: phm@eqt.ch In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? Yes... :-) You just select the whole text of the document in OmniWeb, copy it into the pasteboard using Cmd-C, open Edit, Cmd-N to get a new document, Cmd-Shift-R to convert it to a rich text document, and then paste the contents of the pasteboard into the new document using Cmd-V. Anchors (URL references) will have weird underscore characters just before and after them, but if you select one of them hit Cmd-E, go int the find panel Cmd-F and replace with nothing for the whole document, they will vanish without a trace. Now you can save the richt text document from Edit... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 00:56:22 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331A755D.4228@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> <JJH.97Mar1110928@powwow.eng.sun.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jim Holmlund <jjh@powwow.eng.sun.com> Jim Holmlund wrote: > Version 1.1 will append your .signature file to outgoing msgs. > In the compose window, clicking the Forward (I think) button > includes the original msg. You can then use the Wrap and Reply Terminal > service to prepend '> ' to the original lines. Not as easy as > vm in xemacs, but ... (Version 1.1 contains a menu item in the Compose > menu to do all this with one click.) What's the scoop on 1.1? Only 1.0, AFAIK is downloadable from the SUN website... I heard about 2.0 dev, but what's the current status/release date? Also, is SUN working with NeXT-Apple to incorporate Rhapsody interoperability? Thanks in advance! -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
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From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Jan/Feb Quiz results, new March Quiz started Date: 2 Mar 1997 16:54:16 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5fcbbo$976@peng.ping.at> The SSS January/February Quiz has ended, and the winner is drawn. Plus: the new March Quiz has started NOW! For Jan/Feb results as well as for the new March quiz question, please visit http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is April 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: Sven Droll Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 3 Mar 1997 08:46:50 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5fe35q$vcj@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I know, its supposed to be easy. > >I installed the latest version of teTeX and TeXView so I could move from >latex209 to latex2e. I set the path in my .cshrc and for root as well and >deleted the old TeXVieW. My old files apparently compile fine, but in >(the new) TeXView, there are no letters, just blocks of different sizes. >I can latex from the command line without error, but dvips from the >command line gives <<stuff deleted>> If you get no real fonts it might be, that you should change your preferences in TeXView.app: generate fonts as needed must be set, to produce the pk-files. Ciao -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail, MIME-mail welcome ;-))
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From: Alexander Bochmann <bochmann@freinet.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 14:15:01 -0100 Organization: FreiNet - XLink PoP in Freiburg Message-ID: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, as I've been driven away from "my" NeXT cube at work, I had to take refuge in installing OpenStep on the Solaris machine I now work at. Are there any existing applications for OpenStep/Solaris, or would I have to do everything myself? Especially I'm looking for something like the EnhanceMail bundle and OmniWeb as binary for OpenStep/Solaris. Do I have any chance? Thanks, Alex.
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:58:33 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc27da$5e540650$26564ec2@vanessa> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Great, I've received them today(3/3/97) !! This is a real Great Next Archive !! How can we get the updates ?? Sam smir@interpac.be S.FAHIM <samir@interpac.be> wrote in article <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa>... > > Hello, > Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the > Next-Step/Openstep > community !! > > I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc > (PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is > answering !!! > > What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the > Next/Openstep > world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! > > I naïvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! > > Best regards, > > S. Fahim > Internet System Engineer > E-mail : samir@interpac.be > Belgacom--Interpac Belgium, > 350/358 Avenue Louise Box11 B-1050 Brussels, Belgium > Tel. (32)(2)646.60.00 Fax. (32)(2)640.36.38 >
Date: 3 Mar 1997 09:55:25 EST Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops Message-ID: <cancel.5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> Control: cancel <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: jake@msn.com (Kyle Stoyan) Subject: cmsg cancel <5fcleh$o6l@news.atlantic.net> EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19970303.24 for further details
From: kellerw@okstate.edu (Bill Keller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: JetPilot problem Date: 28 Feb 1997 05:41:08 GMT Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater OK Message-ID: <5f5r5k$gk3@news.cis.okstate.edu> Hello. I have JetPilot 2.3, and it has always worked very well in the past. Recently, I upgraded my motherboard to a PentiumPro 200, and when I reinstalled everything, JetPilot doesn't work anymore. When I try to print something, the printer will load the paper, and then just stop. PrintManager reports that it is still printing, but the printer doesn't seem to know. More importantly, after an attempted print, if I try and shut down my system, it hangs, and I have to hard reset. Not good. I've left a message at the JetPilot website, but so far, no response. My questions are: Is there any diagnostic output from JetPilot somewhere that I could look at? Nothing shows up in syslog. Does anyone know if the PentiumPro has anything goofy about parallel ports? The printer is a HP Deskjet 600C, and it works just fine under NT. Thanks for any pointers anyone can offer.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6H52L.AnD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 15:44:45 GMT References: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de>, Alexander Bochmann <bochmann@freinet.de> wrote: >Hi, > >as I've been driven away from "my" NeXT cube at work, I had to take >refuge in installing OpenStep on the Solaris machine I now work at. > >Are there any existing applications for OpenStep/Solaris, or would I >have to do everything myself? > Stone Design has Create 4.0 for OPENSTEP on Solaris (Mach and NT as well). That's all I know of as far as "big" applications. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Trouble installing teTeX Date: 3 Mar 1997 16:32:21 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5feuel$bba@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5fa0kq$r7g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5fcd05$ae0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5fcduc$ic7$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek (blazek@stt.msu.edu) wrote: : in order to run LaTeX2e one doesn't need to install teTeX and new TeXView. Of course you are right. On the other hand if you want an up-to-date installation, which does not put everything on one big pile, with an extensive documentation, easy to maintain and with updates issued regularly, then teTeX is a good option; unless you plan to do all of the above by yourself. The later is possible as well. After all Tomas Esser (the author and maintainer of teTeX) is not a magician. Michal
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 28 Feb 1997 07:08:43 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5f609r$ovb@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Cc: lones@lones.mit.edu Lones A Smith wrote: > I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not > have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. > How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the > 400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi printer. > > Thanks, > Lones > .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. > / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ > / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` > Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 > (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu > If it's only a temporary thing, I would suggest just running dvips from the command line using the option -D600. If it's permanent, look in /usr/lib/tex/ps/config.ps and change the D option specified there. To see a list of options available to dvips, just type "dvips" (no arguments) at the command line. Hope this helps --- Tom -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@u.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
From: mikel@velocity.com (Michael Lemire) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next software donation Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 17:26:53 GMT Organization: [poster's organization not specified] Message-ID: <331b09c1.12185740@news.mr.net> I have a ton of Next Intel 3.2 and 3.3 Plus Developer, also many versions of software that I would like to donate to a local school (MN). I you are interested please email me at root@velocity.com. Thanks
From: carl@einstein.ucr.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:01:45 GMT Organization: University of California, Riverside Message-ID: <970303120145.1127AAFpK.carl@einstein> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi out there, I'm running the last (I think) version of WordPerfect for NS, June 10 '93. When I go to put mathematical & logical symbols into a document using the Extended Characters panel, only some of the characters work. Many give me just a question mark. Frustratingly, there is no clear rhyme or reason to it, and many of the symbols that don't work are ones I need. Anyone encounter this problem before? Is there a solution? all help will be vastly appreciated. Carl Hoefer Dept. of Philosophy UC Riverside P.S. I also use OpenWrite and EquationBuilder, but their logical symbol selection is weaker than the old WP's! No box, turnstyle, ...
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 3 Mar 1997 20:23:38 GMT Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <5ffc0a$t8c$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> I received in a week the 4 CD-rom package. If you want their fax and phone number Email me Best regards Yves
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:36:43 -0000 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5fek5b$29o@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <a565698a8cead0efb20c45d48912d5ac> <-> <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org> In article <199702271426.JAA07727@peak.org>, luomat@peak.org wrote: > [praising the virtues of procmail] I've got a question about procmail.. can it do _post_processing of already received mail, including removing things from Active.mbox even while Mail.app is running? What I want to do is this: instead of having all my mail sorted into various folders as it comes in, and then having to go into each folder to read the messages, I want everything to go into Active.mbox and then run a service or something to sort them all into their respective mailboxes when I'm done with them. (Actually, I'd prefer to add a button to Mail.app to do this a la EnhanceMail type hackery.. and I'd also like to be able to move only currently-selected messages, as sometimes I want to leave some messages in Active.mbox to remind me to reply to them later, rather then sort them into their mailboxes where I'll forget them.) I think this would be a really nice addition to Mail.app, especially if someone hacked up a simple graphical procmail rule editor. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Nathan Urban | Undergrad {CS,Physics,Math} | Virginia Tech nurban@vt.edu | {NeXT,MIME} mail welcome | http://nurban.campus.vt.edu/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: cogito@cats.ucsc.edu (Dave Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 3 Mar 1997 19:49:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 >(1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that displays NeXT TIFFs. However, every TIFF I made on NT has been viewable on NeXT. >(2) a specific sequence of processing steps which will convert a NeXT TIFF >into something Windows 95 will recognize and print? On the NeXT I use a couple of programs, ImageConverter and OmniImage, that will convert to and from just about any images formats. I usually save the NeXT TIFF as a Windows BMP. On the NT I use Paint Shop Pro or Graphics Workshop (both are available as sharware) to convert to any other format I need. All of the programs I mentioned except OmniImage provide batch conversion. Dave Scott cogito@cats.ucsc.edu
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:49:36 GMT Control: cancel <5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5f5vlc$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970303.62. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970303.62.html for complete report. Original Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! Shopping Paradise
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Converting Fonts From Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 19:23:03 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: How can I convert a Font from a NeXT to something useable by Windows NT? -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:07:28 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Hello, Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the Next-Step/Openstep community !! I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc (PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is answering !!! What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the Next/Openstep world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! I naïvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! Best regards, S. Fahim Internet System Engineer E-mail : samir@interpac.be Belgacom--Interpac Belgium, 350/358 Avenue Louise Box11 B-1050 Brussels, Belgium Tel. (32)(2)646.60.00 Fax. (32)(2)640.36.38
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Reporting tool Message-ID: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Sender: news@oic.de Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:30:35 GMT Hi, I'm looking for reporting tools, but I don't know which report writers are available for OPENSTEP 4.x/Mach and EOF? Can someone give me an advice which tools are available (and usable)? Thank you in advance, Juergen Moellenhoff
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is this really Postscript? Date: 4 Mar 1997 06:32:34 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5fgfm2$1do$8@news.xmission.com> References: <5fg8hm$s58@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: > I am trying to use Preview.app to preview [...] > Not with this postscript stuff, which you can see below > has nonascii stuff. My secretary can print it, but I am > wondering whatever happpened to the platform independence > of postscript. Well, MS and Windows do have a particular talent for screwing up anything and everything. :-) (I'm not sure they are to blame in this case, but MS apps do spit out notoriously bad PS code.) > How can I preview it? I include a snippet at the start of > the file below. Try loading it in Yap and running it to see what the error is. That's Postscript all right; the binary-looking stuff is a bitmapped image. Looking at the snippet you gave us, I'd say it was a .tiff created from either a scan or a fax which was then converted to Postscript. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:36:42 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <331BB4E4.423F@earthlink.net> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Worne wrote: > UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? Or > are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Animo is still available only on NeXTSTEP at this time. SGI and NT coming soon!
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Is this really Postscript? Date: 4 Mar 1997 04:30:46 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fg8hm$s58@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I am trying to use Preview.app to preview an article I downloaded from a new site (|JSTOR) tahat wonderfully stores old (pre 1989) articles of major journals in the fields. Anyhow, to preview the articles on a nonWindoze system, their only option is Postscript. Fine. I'll use Preview, I thought. Not with this postscript stuff, which you can see below has nonascii stuff. My secretary can print it, but I am wondering whatever happpened to the platform independence of postscript. How can I preview it? I include a snippet at the start of the file below. Thanks for any help, Lones %!PS-Adobe-3.0 EPSF-3.0 %%Creator: tiff2ps2 %%CreationDate: Mon Mar 3 10:21:43 1997 %%Orientation: Portrait %%Origin: 0 0 %%BoundingBox: (atend) %%PageOrder: Ascend %%Pages: 38 %%EndComments %%Page: "1" 1 %%BeginPaperSize: Letter %%EndPaperSize %%PageBoundingBox: 0 0 445.440002 683.520020 gsave initgraphics 100 dict begin 928 1424 150.000000 150.000000 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% % width height xres yres exch 4 1 roll % 4: xres width height yres div 72 mul % 3: xres width h72 3 1 roll exch div 72 mul % 2: h72 w72 2 copy % 4: h72 w72 h72 w72 clippath pathbbox % 8: ... h72 w72 llx lly urx ury exch 4 1 roll exch sub % 7: ... h72 w72 urx llx bboxh 3 1 roll sub % 6: ... h72 w72 bboxh bboxw exch 4 1 roll % 6: ... bboxh h72 w72 bboxw % If bboxw < w72, then set xscale=bboxw/w72, % also save widths for centering exch 2 copy lt {2 copy div} {1} ifelse % 7: ... bboxh h72 bboxw w72 xscale 5 3 roll % 7: ... bboxw w72 xscale bboxh h72 2 copy lt {2 copy div} {1} ifelse % 8: ... xscale bboxh h72 yscale 4 -1 roll % 8: ... bboxh h72 yscale xscale 2 copy lt {pop} {exch pop} ifelse % 7: ... bboxw w72 bboxh h72 scale dup 4 1 roll mul sub 2 div % 6: ... bboxw w72 scale ytrans 4 1 roll dup 5 1 roll % 7: ... scale ytrans bboxw w72 scale mul sub 2 div % 6: h72 w72 scale ytrans xtrans exch translate % 3: h72 w72 scale dup 3 1 roll mul % 3: h72 scale swidth 3 1 roll mul % 2: swidth sheight scale % 0: %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% /filterfile0 currentfile /ASCII85Decode filter << /K -1 /BlackIs1 false /EndOfBlock false /Columns 928 /Rows 1424 >> /CCITTFaxDecode filter def 928 1424 1 [928 0 0 -1424 0 1424] filterfile0 image s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!s8W-!b_6oFR4Cju-o5?XN4C%S`^V`i\BC"c&!;JhJf#^:;mX<_ G%M`K3(:hW7!*B7)DmAH;%V-M4B0/76*S38#-cMY$5s@/i&7#4]=U?108<cL"CVo3c&K2H#]-sZ :pX7H6':Yh[5^[8bfgLc(ITrDifV5c&G_n)G\.KBD,jk?<7=RL<:)MoDOqO0gBjY06+em;S#Fmp HU"aO8%'A0_FD2`BSI(,#$oX8L0QX*pK.!oYQ*2AWAiPE5M,YtPGI'`:%b0NS\!MbPAN5.<`&co ^]4?&qldgN'Yf5Ee\:AJ3aLuh7"&cRV>BhRh7CE7mD&[Q,MY1Ws*l_j>u\#H?T,U0c*-&]pR(W& jZEA-#`nY]n)/b>qlbF_DtWf4J#t@CYP`cs]QO7JXY9?qf@M!Dp/CGJN>6s:s0#l/<Um?lI!^&W ;SW"q\(C<Jn`i?>Wda[As)/,@Hb.H?q4gI*BC3@XRDQ#bs)7kNra''J+[bedH[haPd3/bp](Wo+ -- .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:16:41 GMT Control: cancel <5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fghi8$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Sender: nuddesta@wstarztv.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: This is great. Like iced tea!
From: jut@pediat1.kin.ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Framemaker and Openstep 4.1 Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:10:23 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5fgldf$lst$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> Cc: dcarpent@voicenet.com In <33187121.37C7@voicenet.com> David Carpenter wrote: > Can anyone tell me, based on their own experience, whether Framemaker > 3.0 runs under Openstep 4.1? I'm trying to decide whether to upgrade > from Nextstep 3.1 to Openstep 4.1, and I have a lot of documents in > Framemaker. > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > David Carpenter > dcarpent@sju.edu > No problems, IÂm running FrameMaker 3.2 with OPENSTEP 4.1 since 3 month. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 2 Mar 1997 21:46:09 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5fcsf1$je0@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > Subject line says it all. In the next NEXTTOYOU (due March 21st) there will be a solution for any newsreader via a services module that converts any MIME text that you've marked as a block. Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: J. P. McCann <jpmeia@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Viewing multiple-page tiff files Date: 4 Mar 1997 14:05:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5fha77$e9f@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> I've scanned a multple-page document using MetroScan, and saved it as a .tiff file. I can view all pages individually using MetroScan, but not with any other app (OmniImage, Preview, or Tailor). Any way to see all pages using OmniImage, Preview, Tailor, etc? Thanks, JP -- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:08:50 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition to ISO 9660? Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be prefered... Is there Mac OS software that can do this? Anyone know the names? How about Windoze? Thanks in advance -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: applications for Solaris OpenStep? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 08:12:34 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <331C2DC5.4985@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <331AEAF5.915@freinet.de> <E6H52L.AnD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > Stone Design has Create 4.0 for OPENSTEP on Solaris (Mach and NT as well). > That's all I know of as far as "big" applications. Then there's Lighthouse's JavaPlan... http://www.lighthouse.com -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:44:12 GMT Control: cancel <5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fhaan$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Sender: pqwoeiur@poeujf.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: Do you like Nude Celebrity Pic? How about 10000 of them!
From: DAVID HOUTS <dhouts@haywire.csuhayward.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:00:25 -0800 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970227185938.4066C-100000@haywire> References: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Ken Case <kc@criamon.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <5f5e9h$1k9@gaea.titan.org> Hello, I am a NS newbie-sort-of, but wish to share something you might wish to consider as you configure your machine. SoftPC permits you to run DOS/WIN apps under NEXTSTEP. If your DOS partition is the FIRST partition of the HD, SoftPC apps can use the same files available to the apps on your DOS/WIN partition. And welcome to the elegant, "literate" world of NS.
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:53:43 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5fhuk7$oq4@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <3319A512.353D@capecod.net> In article <3319A512.353D@capecod.net>, Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> writes: |> For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with |> host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP |> address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. |> |> My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping |> my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can |> connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. |> |> Thanks in advance for your help. |> |> Bob Trout |> rtrout@capecod.net How are you pinging your provider? Symbolic or numeric IP address? From what you're describing, it sounds like you're having a nameserver problem. Use nslookup to check symbolic IP addresses as another test to verify that your nameserver is translating symbolic IP addresses to numeric addresses. I have my box (NeXTstation) set up to use PPP, and it cooks right along with OmniWeb. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT? Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:04:43 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Message-ID: <5fhrob$5it@bogus.cts.com> I have a few original NeXT machines running NeXT Step Release 3. Is there a way I can display X-Windows on the screen? Basically I want to redirect the display on a UNIX machine and have it point to the NeXT (ie: setenv DISPLAY mynext:0.0) then have it display on the NeXT. Is it built in to the NeXT? Is there third party software? Preferably freeware, or low-cost shareware. Please reply via email if possible. Thanks! Thanks for any help. Mike
From: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu (Yadin Y. Goldschmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: AppleTalk Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:14:33 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. I recently installed the package Appletalk from my old 3.0 cd. I went into NeXTCD directory, clicked on the Appletalk package and installed it. I also copied the old PrintManager from the 3.0 cd. I enabled AppleTalk in preferences and rebooted. I can see Appletalk servers in /Net. In PrintManager create I can see a list of domains and printers. When I create a printer from the list it appears on my list of printers with a host name listed as my machine. When I try to print to it, nothing seems to happen. Any idea what's wrong? -- +----------------------------------+------------------------------+ |Yadin Y. Goldschmidt | | |Professor of Physics | voice: (412)624-9024 | |Dept. of Physics and Astronomy | fax: (412)624-9163 | |University of Pittsburgh | e-mail: | |Pittsburgh PA 15260 | yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu | +----------------------------------+------------------------------+
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:17:26 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <331C7546.2B4F@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Eric Hermanson wrote: > > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files.... The solution I found was to use a combination of PhotoShop to convert TIFF to BMP (Perhaps there is a free converter. I happened to have Photoshop so I didn't look). and EasyIcons/Icon Easel for Windows 95/NT to load/edit/save Icons. It is shareware and costs about $33 Check it out at: http://www.easyapps.com/ I have no affiliation with EasyApps or Adobe (although I wish I did :-) -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 17:03:13 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E6J3DE.7Lp@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes: > Hi, I am curious on how to CD-ROM burn some NeXT media, and am wondering > if in the software that RockRidge Extensions are Necessary in addition > to ISO 9660? Unless you like DOS then yes - they main thing RR gives is long filenames. > Take the NEXTSTEP 3.3 disc, what exactly is required of > the burning software to do this successfully. A Mac solution would be > prefered... The 3.3 disc is a raw dump of a NexT filesystem. To make a RR image mkisofs is pretty good once you figure out the parametera. works on most unix's. To make a NeXT image you should be able to simply dd a disk of your choice. > Is there Mac OS software that can do this? Anyone know the names? How > about Windoze? Getting the image onto the ROM should be easy using most CD software, on pretty much any platform. $an
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep Solaris install question Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:47:37 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5fhjn9$iau@nps.navy.mil> I've recently installed Openstep for Solaris, but can't seem to get it up and running. When logging in, I select "Openstep Desktop" from the session menu, and the session starts up as a dressed up Open Windows (ugh) session. The windows have Openstep frames, etc, but I can't start Workspace or Edit or any such applications. Perhaps I am running "Openstep under Open Windows", as the online documentation says. If I start a session in CDE or plain Open Windows, and type "openstep", I get, "The X-server is not running or the DPS compositing operators are not present" How do I get to *real* Openstep?? Many thanks, --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 4 Mar 1997 19:09:46 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> Has Lighthouse decided not to port their NEXTSTEP apps to Openstep? I had to dig for any mention of the old apps on their web page! In particular, will the Academic bundle make it to Openstep?? --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please can I have NS 3.3 Samba binaries for 68k? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 13:59:39 -0800 Organization: Peace Summit Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <33209a60.35064179@news.jumppoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been having some trouble compiling Samba under NS 3.3 on a black box. First it gave me an undefined symbol of O_NONBLOCK in a file open in server.c, which I hacked around. Now it comes up with smbd couldn't link because it could't find _waitpid. I'm no guru. Does someone have the binaries? Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html
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From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Unified Printing minus GX Message-ID: <8D3548E.09B8000203.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 97 19:26:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Computer Plans To Unify Mac OS Printing Architecture 03/03/97 Dow Jones News Service Apple Computer Inc. plans to unify the dual printing architectures currently supported by the Mac OS and standardize on the use of classic printing manager drivers, such as LaserWriter and StyleWriter, for future Mac OS 7.x releases. In a press release Monday, Apple said it plans to remove the printing architecture component of QuickDraw GX, refocus QuickDraw GX as a graphics solution, and continue to evolve its Printing Manager drivers. Beginning with the Mac OS scheduled to be released in July, code-named Tempo, Apple will provide a unified operating system printing architecture standardizing on the Printing Manager architecture's drivers. With the unified printing architecture, QuickDraw GX printer drivers and QuickDraw GX printing extensions will not be a user option at installation, Apple said. Under the new unified printing architecture strategy, the printing architecture of QuickDraw GX will be removed and the technology will be refocused as a graphics solution, the company said. In place of the QuickDraw GX 1.1.5 architecture currently available, a modified system will be delivered as a separate software library, Apple said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with modem setup Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 19:07:39 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-0403971907390001@blv-pm108-ip23.halcyon.com> Since I've been a little frightened of trying to set up PPP on my NeXTstation running 3.0, I thought I'd just use a simple terminal and dial up local BBSes. So I plugged my Supra 288 faxmodem in with a hardware handshaking cable from my Mac. Typing "tip 1234567" did indeed dial the modem, and even connected, but tip gave an "OK" prompt followed shortly by a "connection failed" error. Looking through NeXTanswers I've noticed some mention of configuring getty and /etc/remote, and I would check the man pages for those, only I don't have any man pages (the curse of getting the 105 configuration, I guess). Any help greatly appreciated. Suggestions setting up PPP 2.2 would be most helpful as well. -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
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From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 22:39:09 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rudy: I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) I can usually find someone who can answer questions Internals & source code are available It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) Oh......it's free...... I can run Applix on it It is usually faster in similar implementations than commercial UNIX packages. I prefer X Window Need I go on? If NeXT 3.2 of so great give me your copy.... -Mike Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > > be a screamer for most everything. > > > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > > > Thanks, > > > > -Mike > > > > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, > at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run > Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. > > I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... > > Good luck. > > Rudy. > > -- > Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Re: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Message-ID: <E6K1G6.3wJ@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN References: <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 05:19:17 GMT In article <5f9nir$6si$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: > I am thinking about PowerMac with Rhapsody and an Intel board inside. That > way one would get OpenStep, old Mac software and Wintel compatibility too. > I'm dreaming the wildest 'day dream' that Rhapsody enables me to run most of current Mac Apps as well as OS and UNIX Apps by adding 'PowerPC card' to my old 486 machine. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: jba@news.pixar.com (John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 5 Mar 1997 06:21:34 GMT Organization: Pixar Message-ID: <5fj3de$6o1@pixar.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> I too would be interested in this.... thanks mike allison (mallison@konnections.com) wrote: : Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT : systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these : machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really : be a screamer for most everything. : : NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to : mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. : : If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com : : Thanks, : : -Mike -- _____________________________________________________________ John Anderson jba@pixar.com Pixar Animation Studios http://www.pixar.com "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." --Rita Mae Brown
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703041856.NAA03664@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f23e66da50611ae76f249f75935d0d15 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 13:56:42 -0500 Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f23e66da50611ae76f249f75935d0d15 - Responding To: carl@einstein.ucr.edu Original Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 20:01:45 GMT > I'm running the last (I think) version of WordPerfect for NS, June > 10 '93. When I go to put mathematical & logical symbols into a > document using the Extended Characters panel, only some of the > characters work. Many give me just a question mark. Frustratingly, > there is no clear rhyme or reason to it, and many of the symbols > that don't work are ones I need. Anyone encounter this problem > before? Is there a solution? all help will be vastly appreciated. What Font were you using? I just tried mine (same version, running under m68k not Intel) using Courier 12 as the base font and they all seemed to work just fine. It could be an incomplete upgrade (you got the newer binary but not the rest of the distribution). Here is a listing of all the files withing WP that I have. I encourage anyone who uses WP to check this and make sure they have the same: (this is for version 1.0.1 June 1993 for Intel & NeXT) (note: I got this from running find /LocalApps/WordPerfect.app -print|sort and then removing the "/LocalApps/WordPerfect.app" part of the output in case you want to make a similar listing and run it through 'diff' or FileMerge or something like that) WP has said in the past that any licensed user can get an upgrade (for NeXTStep) from someone else, since they have long since lost/destroyed/eaten the master disks. 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wpfiles/wperr.us wpfiles/wpfiles wpfiles/wphlp.us wpfiles/wphyd.us wpfiles/wphyl.us wpfiles/wplex.us wpfiles/wpmnu.us wpfiles/wpths.us wpfiles/wptpl.us wpfiles/wptpltxt.us wpfiles/wptxt.us wpg.tiff wpm.tiff wpspell hope that helps TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 300 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703041841.NAA03561@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 13:41:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - Responding To: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Original Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:36:43 -0000 Message-ID: 4d40bddc151c5ae1e31a4d57c17e689b - > I've got a question about procmail.. can it do _post_processing of > already received mail, including removing things from Active.mbox > even while Mail.app is running? Yes. You could do this. I'm not 100% sure of the "how" but the answer to "can it" is definitely YES. You would probably be running formail like this: formail -des procmail -m sort-active ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox (where 'sort-active' is a procmail script with your sorting recipes) WARNING: the above is NOT to be used, but merely an example of how simple it would be and the APPROXIMATE syntax.... I wouldn't use it on my Active.mbox without checking with the procmail mailing list. You would have to close Active.mbox (for safety) but Mail.app could be running. I could see using a LogoutHook to sort Active.mbox automatically on logout.... that would be nifty. > What I want to do is this: instead of having all my mail sorted > into various folders as it comes in, and then having to go into > each folder to read the messages, I want everything to go into > Active.mbox and then run a service or something to sort them all > into their respective mailboxes when I'm done with them. I prefer having as much sorted as possible. In fact, hardly any email I get ends up in Active.mbox, most is sorted, and if it isn't it means either: you haven't sent me mail before you haven't sent enough mail to me before for me to remember to add your name to some database you are a spammer All my Inboxes are in one directory under ~/Mailboxes called "Inboxes" so I can click on any one of them and not have to be clicking back and forth. Very handy... Anyway, the short answer is "yes" but for details you'll want someone who has done this more than me.... or send me mail and ask me to check that 10 meg/4000 message procmail mailbox on my NeXT. TjL, now aware of why his gig HD is running out of room so quickly ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:07:06 GMT References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com>, mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> wrote: >Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT >systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these >machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really >be a screamer for most everything. > The only 40MHz black hardware are Turbo slabs which have the Nitro board installed: about 5 or so in the world. Most are 25MHz non-Turbo hardware, while some are 33MHz Turbo. >NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to >mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > 4.x is big, yes. I won't go further into this flame troll. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is Big Green CD? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:04:08 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any other shareware for OPENSTEP. Thanks, --gh
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: renderman help. Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:31:24 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0503971135220001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> If I click on a .rib file in nextstep 3.3 it brings up a program called 3view which lets me move around a wireframe or shaded object. How do I render a rib in photorealistic renderman? thanks!
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:49:23 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5fk4m3$6q9@shelob.afs.com> References: <199703041856.NAA03664@kira.peak.org> Tim Luoma posted a list of what's inside WordPerfect.app, but actually he was more on track when he asked which font the original author was using. WordPerfect installs in TWO passes: first for an Apps location, and then for a Library location. Extended characters are provided by a special set of PostScript fonts (which by the way look LOUSY on screen, because they didn't provide optimized bitmaps for screen resolutions). All fontnames begin with 'WP' and should live in /LocalLibrary/Fonts or ~Library/Fonts. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? Message-ID: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:21:50 GMT Hi, I am looking for GNU regex for NEXTSTEP, preferably something that I can install as libregex.a and that comes with iregex.c (the interactive front end for testing). I tried looking on FSF sites, but without any luck so far. Can anybody help? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with modem setup Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:03:49 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5fk5h5$fd@mainsrv.main.nc.us> I tried using tip on with my NeXTStation with simaler results. I did not find how to fix the problem, but have a solution, that was to use kermit. I found kermit to work fine and I am using it at this moment. Cicada LaFey clafey@main.nc.us
From: paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Faxing with Samba Date: 5 Mar 1997 17:00:51 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> Hi, Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? -- Paul Haddad
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Testers searched: MPEG L3 Audio Player for NeXTSTEP/OpenSTEP (Intel only) Date: 5 Mar 1997 18:42:50 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5fkera$i75$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Howdy! I'd like to see if this thing works on other machines. I have combined my MMP.app mod player with the mpg123 program by Michael Hipp (which runs on Linux, he gave me his permission to use it :)) to get an audio MPEG I L1,2 and 3 player plus the MOD Playing functionality. So if you a. Have an Intel box, perferable faster than DX/2 (Sorry but a m68k system is *way* too slow) b. Running NeXTSTEP 3.x or OPENSTEP c. Like to play MPEG sounds or MODs in 44.1 kHz d. Provide me with feedback (!) ... feel free to send me an email. Have a nice day Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy e start of > > the file below. > > Try loading it in Yap and running it to see what the error is. > That's Postscript all right; the binary-looking stuff is a > bitmapped image. Looking at the snippet you gave us, I'd say > it was a .tiff created from either a scan or a fax which was > then converted to Postscript. > > You can try my BeYap program, a PS previewer/tracer/debugger. It will tell you exactly where the error happens. It can usually preview a lot more documents than Preview.app since it does not care about DSC comments. (And yes - it can preview multipage documents) To see if a PS document conforms to PS Level 1 (your PS sniplet uses L2 commands, so this does not work) you can use my 'pscheck' program. BeYap is available on the archives as shareware. A timebombed version of pscheck for DOS/Windows and NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP is on my web page. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: AppleTalk Date: 5 Mar 1997 18:46:34 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5fkf2a$i75$3@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Cc: yygold@yadin.phyast.pitt.edu In <5fhsap$it3@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Yadin Y. Goldschmidt wrote: > I am running NS 3.2 on black hardware. I recently installed the > package Appletalk from my old 3.0 cd. I went into NeXTCD directory, > clicked on the Appletalk package and installed it. I also copied the > old PrintManager from the 3.0 cd. I enabled AppleTalk in preferences > and rebooted. I can see Appletalk servers in /Net. In PrintManager > create I can see a list of domains and printers. When I create a > printer from the list it appears on my list of printers with a host name > listed as my machine. When I try to print to it, nothing seems to > happen. Any idea what's wrong? > > Well, I don't recommend the now unsupported Appletalk package at all. It seemed to work sometimes, somehow depending on the phase of the moon. (At least on my system...) See http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html for an alternative freeware appletalk package. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:15:37 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Yn7QNNi00iVCA7WFkS@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> In-Reply-To: <E6KqKE.I6@AWT.NL> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 5-Mar-97 GNU regex for NEXTSTEP? by Drs G. C. Th. Wierda@AWT > I am looking for GNU regex for NEXTSTEP, preferably something that I > can install as libregex.a and that comes with iregex.c (the interactive > front end for testing). I tried looking on FSF sites, but without any luck > so far. How about <URL=ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu/regex-0.12.tar.gz>? It doesn't seem to have iregex.c, but it does come with a series of tests. You might try asking on the gnu.* groups, too-- this is a generic question about GNU software, and is not NEXTSTEP-specific. Unless you're looking for a precompiled version, that is.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 14:29:46 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <Yn7Qae200iVCA7WMkQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 3-Mar-97 Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Wi.. by Dave Scott@cats.ucsc.edu >> (1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >> I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and > > I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that > displays NeXT TIFFs. However, every TIFF I made on NT has been viewable on > NeXT. That's because most PC TIFF viewers don't support all of the formats mandated by the standard, and NeXT's 2-bit greyscale TIFFs are one of the least common formats, so PC developers ignore and/or never test their software on NeXT's TIFFs. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: _henq@phsoft.knoware.nl (Henk van Tijen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: plain text tables with tbl and nroff: how? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 1997 20:51:46 +0100 Organization: PH Software Message-ID: <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> I recently posted the message below to comp.text, but I am still left with my problemette. I think the problem is Nextstep (3.2) specific, as I did get good results on a HP/UX system at work... ..........................original posting............................ Hi all, I have a challenge in dealing with tbl en nroff. What I try to do is generate a table like the one below: __________________________________________ Language lesson 12 __________________________________________ Nr English French __________________________________________ 1 Father, the girl Papa, disait la said, is it true fille, est-ce mother smokes que c'est vrai the pipe? que maman fume la pipe? __________________________________________ 2 Du pain, du vin Bread, wine and et du Boursin! cheese. __________________________________________ So I want to make a multi-column table with each cell having wrapped multi-line text in it. The medium is plain text, so a combination of tbl and nroff seemed a natural fit. What I get, however, looks like: (lines omitted): Language lesson 12 Nr English French 1 Father, the girl said, is it true mother smokes the pipe? Papa, disait la fille, est-ce que c'est vrai que maman fume la pipe? 2 Du pain, du vin et du Boursin! Bread, wine and cheese. (When boxing turned on, the vertical lines actually come after above content). The problem seems that somewhere in the pipe, commands are given for a vertical movement up- wards, and nroff decides that is not possible (my guess, at least). I get this result both when I redirect the output to the vt100 emulation or to a file. If I use troff instead of nroff, and pipe it through ptroff (=pscat), I get a beautiful postscript table. I also tried piping through colcrt, but to no avial. Oh, I am doing this on my black NeXT 3.2, which is BSD4.2-ish, me thinks. Can anybody help me? (I already checked the FAQ's) Thanks in advance ! -Henk van Tijen PS: This is the source of the table: .TS center tab(:) ; cfI s s n l l . Language lesson 12 Nr:English:French 1:T{ Father, the girl said, is it true mother smokes the pipe? T}:T{ Papa, disait la fille, est-ce que c'est vrai que maman fume la pipe? T} 2:T{ Du pain, du vin et du Boursin! T}:T{ Bread, wine and cheese. T} .TE .............................reply................................ Stefaan A. Eeckels <Stefaan.Eeckels@ecc.lu> wrote: [snip] > > Oh, I am doing this on my black NeXT 3.2, > > which is BSD4.2-ish, me thinks. > Henk, > Pipe the output from nroff through 'col': > > tbl /tmp/foobar.t | nroff -Tlp -mm | col > > yields: [snip] > as you'd expect. > > -- Stefaan .................... my reply to stefaan's reply....................... Stefaan, thanks for your respons. I already tried col (and colcrt), but on my Next they do not give the result as you described. :-( So now i think one of these tools on my NeXT perhaps has non-standard behaviour. I'll cross-post this problem in one of the comp.sys.next groups and see if someone out there comes with a solution that works on my particular environment. Thanks again, -Henk -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= fight bulk mail: remove _underscore from return address when replying henk van tijen henq@phsoft.knoware.nl exclusive spanish wines at low cost: http://utopia.knoware.nl/~henq/
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: help me with ppp Date: 5 Mar 1997 22:29:09 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? any help would be appreciated. jlimpert@pathfinder.com
From: Anthony Cordeiro <ren@netscape.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 15:47:45 -0800 Organization: i.dont.speak.for.netscape.com Message-ID: <331E0621.7985@netscape.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mike allison wrote: > > Rudy: > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some > places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) Not really relevant for this question, is it. We're talking about linux for NeXTs. > I can usually find someone who can answer questions What were those comp.sys.next newsgroups for again? > Internals & source code are available And a good thing, too, for when you need to recompile mount and tweak your system options so you can mount more than 32 nfs directories. (granted it's been fixed in later versions) > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) Some versions are solid. Slackware yes. Red Hat no. > Oh......it's free...... You mean they want you to pay MONEY for their work? Oh no. Not that. Anything but that. They might /support/ you or /give you upgrades and patches or something./ I don't know that I could take that. > I can run Applix on it Um, okay. > It is usually faster in similar implementations than > commercial UNIX packages. I don't know how true this would be of Linux on a NeXT slab, but maybe. I guarantee it wouldn't be nearly as elegant an operating system. > I prefer X Window Why? Because everyone else does? Which isn't to say that isn't a valid argument. Everyone uses X. It isn't as good as the NeXT interface and windowing system, but everyone uses it. Lots of people use Windows NT, too, that doesn't make it better than unix. If you want to run linux, get a cheap PC. That's what they're for, and that's what linux was designed for. NeXTs were designed for something better. If it was given to you, I bet you could sell it to a NeXT aficionado for enough money to buy a PC that will run linux a lot faster than the m68k would. Otherwise shell out the cash for a copy of NeXTSTEP, it's well worth the money, IMO. --Ren
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Mail.app and CompuServe-Mailserver Date: 5 Mar 1997 17:36:48 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5fkavg$fuh$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! Does anybody know if I could use Mail.app with the mailserver of Compuserve, because they didn't have a pop/smtp mailserver. Did anybody know if there is a way to make use of the CompuServe- mailserver and how to configure my system to send mail to server and to get my mail from it ??? Any hints are wellcome. Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean Paul Ladue wrote: > Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next > website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also > what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' you want is the Intel version of that. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: html2rtf Date: 6 Mar 1997 03:16:56 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5flcv8$v73@supernews.login.net> References: <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <5fd35e$78a@news.tuwien.ac.at> ConvertSelection is a FREEWARE offered from Schneider Software. You can download it from: http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/converters/ConvertSelection.NIHS.bs.tar.gz (205 k) http://www.peak.org/next/apps/utils/converters/ConvertSelection.README (2 k) ConvertSelection offers the following options via the services menu: Convert to HTML Convert to HTML (incl. meta chars) Convert from HTML Convert from ISO-Latin1-encoded Convert from NEXTSTEP-encoded Convert to Lowercase Convert to Uppercase Convert to 7-Bit ASCII You can easily modify the conversion rules of these services, add new rules to any of them, or create entirely new conversion services to your liking. ConvertSelection can convert plain ASCII text selections, RTF text selections, and *** RTFD text selections ***. By the same token, you might be interested by the upcoming LatinByrd characteristics at: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/ LatinByrd.app should be available by mid-March (English, French and German). Cheers, André Lalonde =================== > In <5f7o0g$cub@uni2f.unige.ch> phm@eqt.ch wrote: > Hi > > > Does somebody know how I could convert html to rtf? > I found some sources on the net, but the results are not so convincing and > I don©t want to pay too much for it. > It makes me sad, to see how OmniWeb converts html->sgml->rtf, but I don©t > find a way to save it in rtf. Am I missing something? -----------------------------
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 6 Mar 1997 00:32:02 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5fl3a2$s84$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 In article <5ff9vl$mtd@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, Dave Scott <cogito@cats.ucsc.edu> wrote: >>(1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume >>I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and > >I've tried many programs on NT, and I have been unable to find one that >displays NeXT TIFFs. Photoshop will open these files, but it won't satisfy the original poster's request--PD/free. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: laconsul@satlink.com (JORGE I. LARDIZABAL) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.software.compability,comp.sys.next.software,satlink.lists.taylor-uucp Subject: COULD EUDORA LIGHT WORK IN UUCP?? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 17:29:46 GMT Organization: LARDIZABAL & ASOCIADOS Message-ID: <5fkaoa$1us@un3.satlink.com> Is possible that Eudora Light 3.0 (version beta 3.01)for Windows 3.1 or Windows 95 works reading and sending email from an UUCP Mail Server? I have notice that a version of Pegasus mail works in UUCP protocol, but I am not interested in this. If anybody know somethink, plase post here.-
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT? Date: 5 Mar 1997 14:25:40 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5fjvp4$obk$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5fhrob$5it@bogus.cts.com> hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) wrote: > I have a few original NeXT machines running NeXT Step Release 3. Is there >a way I can display X-Windows on the screen? Basically I want to redirect >the display on a UNIX machine and have it point to the NeXT >(ie: setenv DISPLAY mynext:0.0) then have it display on the NeXT. Is it >built in to the NeXT? Is there third party software? Preferably freeware, or >low-cost shareware. There are two commercial solutions: co-Xist and CubXWindow. You can get a demo version of both of them from ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Commercial/X11. Peanuts is AFAIK mirrored in USA. Look at the readmes. There is also a shareware X server Xnext and a freeware server MouseX, which runs only on original black hardware. Both you can get from peanuts to (...next/X11/server). I'm using MouseX if I need a X11 display from time to time. It works but it is slow (don't try running xpilot on it ;-) ). Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 6 Mar 1997 02:01:30 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> In-Reply-To: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> FYI, all Lighthouse apps (commercial AND academic) do run on NEXTSTEP as well as OPENSTEP. (English, French, and German versions are available.) André Lalonde WEB: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/ (under construction) Distributor & Translator for Lighthouse Design, Impact Software, Parabase Software, Schneider Software, Stone Design, Sarrus Software. =========================================================== On 03/04/97, Kevin R Gue wrote: > Has Lighthouse decided not to port their NEXTSTEP apps to Openstep? I had > to dig for any mention of the old apps on their web page! In particular, > will the Academic bundle make it to Openstep?? > > --Kevin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil > Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 > Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 > Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >
From: Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Info on OpenBase? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 13:15:37 -0800 Organization: Optimal Solutions Message-ID: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was just checking out /pub/next/OpenStep/database/apps and I find something called OpenBase. The readme file really doesn't tell me much about this program. It says (in part): OpenBase Gamma (November 7, 1996) OpenBase SQL Server for OpenStep 4.1 Mach Obviusly I can assume that it is some kind of sql database program that runs under OpenStep. And since it is 'Gamma' I guess it's not a final release. But beyond the obvious what do you know about it? Is it any good? How complete is it? Is it commercial? shareware? freeware? Connects with EOF? Can quality apps be built using it or is it more or less a toy? Unfortunately I am not in a position to download it now and check it out or I would see what additional information is in the package itself. Decent affordable database servers are important to me and I would really like to know more. What can you tell me? Thanks for any information you have! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dan Scott Phone: (402)423-4101 Optimal Solutions Email: ds63627@navix.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:30:12 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5fk72k$e9@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> Hello, Because there seems to be some upset people in the US: (I've quoted several mails) ><bold>samir@interpac.be,UseNet writes:</bold> >>Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the >>Next-Step/Openstep >>community! Believe me, we try to do, and it's a hard job. Besides: we don't get any money for it and this is only to serve people with cheap CD's like _you_! It's a two men job, and both are students and are doing this in their spare time. >Hmmm. I sent them a check in US funds and received my discs within 10 days. Perhaps because I didn't swear at them... > Happily, a satisfied customer. >I've already ordered the CD over a month ago. The first 2 times >I sent e-mail inquiries I never heard back. Yesterday I got >an e-mail reply to me 3rd inquiry. So, they are trying to >work with potential customers but seem to have some problems. Dear Bob, thanks for posting in the news :-) However it seems that you are the only one with big troubles. I won't quote private mail, but you were stating not receiving our answers. However this is due to mail problems with _your_ adress! When I was using both e-mail adresses of yours, you did receive one answer of 4(!) we've sent out. Anyway we are starting a postal inquiry about your package now, which has been sent out 3 weeks ago and should have arrived even without air-shipping. In general: We are sending out orders within one week. European customers never complained and received their packages within 3 days. US customers should at least wait 2 weeks when ordered by air-mail and at least 3 weeks when ordered without air-mail. Because we only ship at the end of a week some people might encounter another delay of 3-4 days when we receive their ordering at the beginning of a week. We know that there is demand for US customers to receive the discs much earlier. Because of this we were trying to contact US distributors like Walnut Creek, Bifrost and Optimal Object. However they didn't respond and we are out of luck. We hope to satisfy every customer and to serve the NeXT community with up-to date software in the future. Thanks to everybody supporting Peanuts and it's mirrors. With regards, Bernhard. P.S.: in cases cdrom@peanuts.leo.org won't reply (or didn't) (this adress is _not_ an alias for me) please feel free to write to: scholz@leo.org -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de) -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Message-ID: <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:41:01 GMT In article <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) writes: > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing sorry for the delay we are busy? ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9703051448.AA05049@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 97 15:48:27 +0100 Subject: 4 SALE: One Quix Daydream Dongle Hi there NeXTfolks, I have to part with the Quix Daydream Dongle, because I do not use it as often, as I thought....... So here it is: 4 SALE: Quix Daydream Dongle Version 2.11 (latest version avail.) (to run MacOS 7.5 compatible Software on a NeXT's black hardware) --- Unfortunatly this version will come without the manual and original packaging I use to have, but as I am a registered User, it should be no problem to obtain it at Quix Computerware near Luzern, Switzerland at a nominal fee...... ;-) It comes as a little white matchbox that connects to the DSP port of your NeXT, either a Station, Cube, Dimension, Pyro or even the NeXTNitro..... and will act like a Mac expect for Sound, but that's the only thing that will not be supported since the NeXT has a different way to work with Sound (since the Dongle is connected to the DSP port) and a Floppy disk that contains all the necessary software to just go ahead. (Stop the NeXT booting process, type bsd daydream and off you go!) --- The first person, who will offer $ 500.00 will get it! Shipping to the expense of the buyer. *** I do live in Hamburg, Germany, Europe *** Pls. e-mail if interested in buying that neat piece of hardware wizardry...... Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news
From: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr (Abdel BOUDRAA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to display an Image using NXImage class... Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:15:09 GMT Organization: UCBL Message-ID: <5fmqid$jrm@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear Sir, I am a new user of NeXT system. Could you mind tell me where I can find a sample code to display an image (8Bits, 256Colors, NxN)using the famous NXImage class. (my image is not a tiff, eps or ps image). This, is the code that I use to display my image (image.dat) but without success: /*--------------------*/ #import <appkit/NXImage.h> #import <appkit/appkit.h> void SetVisu(void) { /*NXImage *image;*/ /*an NXImage object*/ NXSize size; NXPoint position; /*image.dat: 64x64 matrix, 256Colors*/ id image=[NXImage findImageNamed:"image.dat"]; [image getSize:&size]; position.x=100; position.y=100; PSsetgray(NX_LTGRAY); [image composite:NX_SOVER toPoint:&position]; [self display]; } main() { [Application new]; SetVisu(); [NXApp run]; [NXApp free]; } Thanks in advance for your reply, via e-mail if possible, A. BOUDRAA e-mail: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 10:09:04 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <33204B02.787D6A22@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> <331E0621.7985@netscape.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ren: Interesting post, I guess. Let's see... You said that my running Linux on my other systems was not relevant, in your opinion I guess since you're not the one who has to network & maintain them. Of course, since my original post concerned FINDING linux, not SHOULD I USE Linux, I don't see how this whole discussion is relevant. Then, about newsgroups. I think you'll find MUCH more activity in the Linux groups. As for source code, just because you don't have a better reason for access to the source doesn't mean that others haven't got some. (Not everyone's equipment comes from WalMart) As for FREE, free has many meanings, not just not paying for something. I've paid more to support my linux systems than I have on NT, Windows MacOS and NeXT. Because I use it the most and I get the most out of it. The fact that the OS isn't expensive shouldn't concern you, no one asked you to contribute things for nothing, that's the Linux community's business, not yours. Linux' free availability has probably created more markets in the last 5 years than most systems.) Besides, don't knock free or act holy, how much did you pay CERN for the web? How many T1's did you install? How many students and workers pay for their systems and access? Payment is irrelevent. LINUX is far better than any system I've ever paid to own, including support. As for my NeXT Station, No, I paid good money for that. And I'll pay money to keep using it as I like which means X Window and Unix if I can find it. As for your childish refence to using X "because everyone else does" {which is a dumb comment} No, I like it better. I use NT on some of my PC (and I OWN plenty, thanks) because I have to to maintain the NT systems I work on. But I use Linux for myself. So, it boils down to you want me to like NeXT and I want me to like Linux. I do like NeXT but the NeXT ideology is lost forever and soon they won't support your cubes or slabs. Eventually we'll all have to find a solution to our NeXT problems. I think NeXT, the OS and the Machine, are beautiful, don't get me wrong. I am a zealot too, but I'd like to know that I have the tools I need to work with and NeXT can't guarentee me that. (Anymore than Microsoft or Apple can) because they are market driven and not user driven. Linux has what it has and evolves out of need, not out of hype and marketing and lack of choice. You say I want X because everyone uses it, well I want Linux so no one tells me I HAVE to use NeXTStep or whatever they're peddling that week. Thanks for the exercise. If anyone wants to talk about HOW we can get Linux and not WHY we should or shouldn't please let me know.... Mike Allison (mallison@konnections.com) Anthony Cordeiro wrote: > > mike allison wrote: > > > > Rudy: > > > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some > > places to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) > > Not really relevant for this question, is it. We're talking > about linux for NeXTs. > > > I can usually find someone who can answer questions > > What were those comp.sys.next newsgroups for again? > > > Internals & source code are available > > And a good thing, too, for when you need to recompile > mount and tweak your system options so you can mount more than 32 > nfs directories. (granted it's been fixed in later versions) > > > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) > > Some versions are solid. Slackware yes. Red Hat no. > > > Oh......it's free...... > > You mean they want you to pay MONEY for their work? Oh > no. Not that. Anything but that. They might /support/ you or > /give you upgrades and patches or something./ I don't know that I > could take that. > > > I can run Applix on it > > Um, okay. > > > It is usually faster in similar implementations than > > commercial UNIX packages. > > I don't know how true this would be of Linux on a NeXT > slab, but maybe. I guarantee it wouldn't be nearly as elegant > an operating system. > > > I prefer X Window > > Why? Because everyone else does? Which isn't to say that isn't > a valid argument. Everyone uses X. It isn't as good as the NeXT > interface and windowing system, but everyone uses it. Lots of people > use Windows NT, too, that doesn't make it better than unix. > > If you want to run linux, get a cheap PC. That's what they're > for, and that's what linux was designed for. NeXTs were designed for > something better. If it was given to you, I bet you could sell it > to a NeXT aficionado for enough money to buy a PC that will run > linux a lot faster than the m68k would. Otherwise shell out the cash > for a copy of NeXTSTEP, it's well worth the money, IMO. > > --Ren
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:01:05 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com>, Sorry David: You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be free) -Mike > mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> wrote: > >Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > >systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > >machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > >be a screamer for most everything. > > > > The only 40MHz black hardware are Turbo slabs which have the Nitro board > installed: about 5 or so in the world. Most are 25MHz non-Turbo hardware, > while some are 33MHz Turbo. > > >NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > >mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > 4.x is big, yes. I won't go further into this flame troll. > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:09:05 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <33206678.42831ED@konnections.com> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gh@smart.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit GH: Email me at mallison@konnections.com and I'll send the email address. You can find it on the net by searching "Big Green" I'll post the address after I retrieve it... -Mike gh@smart.net wrote: > > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. > > Thanks, > --gh
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:42:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for Sonata font Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:45:49 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Well, I guess the subject says it all. Thanks for responding to schumach@uni2a.unige.ch Jorg Schumacher
From: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printer software modification Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:54:34 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <schumach-0603972256170001@129.194.16.71> I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification that allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at the time you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the beginning of every session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? J. Schumacher schumach@uni2a.unige.ch
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 17:39:35 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <331F47A7.6F7E@ibm.net> References: <edewE6BxEs.838@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Eric Dew wrote: > > Ordinarily, I'd ask Sarrus Software, but I don't know if they're still > around (although there's no harm in trying...). > > Anyway, I'm using SBook 3.1. The bug is when I click on the envelope icon > (next to the address in the content field of an addresse). What happens is > that if I muck with the size of the envelope printer panel (which comes > up when i click on the envelope icon), the next time I launch the app and > use the envelope icon, I get the envelope printer panel sized wrong. > > What is wrong? Well, about 50% of the panel is useless panelling. The > envelope image field is reduced to some small amount. > > I have asked Sarrus about this and they told me what to do, but I have > forgotten it. It was something like typing "dwrite NXApps sbook.app" or > something like that on a command line. > > Can someone tell me what is the correct incantation? > > Since I don't read this newsgroup TOO often, perhaps respondees can > cc the answer to me at edew@netcom.com. > > Thanks, > > EDEW Hello, I use SBook every day but do not really use the envelope option very much. What I have done though is once I set up a layout that I would like to keep I save it using the Save AS button and Name it. Once that is done whenever you launch this window there is the option under the Stationary panel to choose the custom layout and it should reformat the envelope automatically. At least it does on my machine. I'm not certain this will help you but I certainly hope that it does. By the way, Sarrus is still around they just don't answer their email very promptly. I guess they have had to get real jobs to pay for their Next development. Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
From: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: web applications Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:58:08 GMT Organization: Time Warner Pathfinder Message-ID: <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> Help. Where do I get shareware web applications for email http ftp etc. newsreader. thanks
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SciPlot Legend Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:28:14 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970306162623.7827A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SciPlot is a great package, but I can't figure out how to turn on the legend. Where can I find the option? BTW, is there more complete documentation somewhere (more than in the Help menu)? Thanks. Robert
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: plain text tables with tbl and nroff: how? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:53:04 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5fnotg$a61@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> Cc: _henq@phsoft.knoware.nl In <19970305205146175694@[192.0.2.1]> Henk van Tijen wrote: | I recently posted the message below to comp.text, but I am still left | with my problemette. I think the problem is Nextstep (3.2) specific, as | I did get good results on a HP/UX system at work... | | ..........................original posting............................ | | Hi all, | | I have a challenge in dealing with tbl en nroff. | What I try to do is generate a table like the one | below: | __________________________________________ | Language lesson 12 | __________________________________________ | Nr English French | __________________________________________ | 1 Father, the girl Papa, disait la | said, is it true fille, est-ce | mother smokes que c'est vrai | the pipe? que maman fume | la pipe? | __________________________________________ | 2 Du pain, du vin Bread, wine and | et du Boursin! cheese. | __________________________________________ | | | So I want to make a multi-column table with each | cell having wrapped multi-line text in it. The | medium is plain text, so a combination of tbl and | nroff seemed a natural fit. Somebody changed the default behavior of nroff on the NeXT. It no longer emits Teletype 37 codes as its default output, so col(1) doesn't have anything to work on. On the other hand, nroff emits the combination "underline backspace character" to simulate italic characters in the column headings. Applying this (empirically determined a few minutes ago) knowledge to help select the command line options, I use the following command line to produce the desired results: % tbl lesson.nr | nroff -T37 | col -b > table.txt Switches: -T37 emit Teletype 37 codes -b don't backspace, just print the last character to be sent to that column. And I get the sought-after table. (NextStep 3.3, but I'm sure it is the same for any NS 1.0 or greater). -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:38:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fnkh8$rf6@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> gh@smart.net wrote: > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. For the Big Green CD, check: http://www.skylee.com/ It's currently at version 7.0 --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SOLVED! - Problem with PPP and OmniWeb Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 22:05:42 -0600 Message-ID: <331F9416.13E1@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Many thanks to all who responded to my problem below! I was missing a resolv.conf file with my provider's name server IP address and I needed to specify the "defaultroute" option when starting up PPP. I can now browse from my Nextstation!! Problem: For every URL I specify using the "www.xxx.yyy" format, OmniWeb responds with host does not exists. If I specify my internet service provider's IP address, OmniWeb responds connection refused. My PPP connection seems to be working fine (the log looks good and I can ping my provider's host). Why does my provider and OmniWeb not get along? I can connect with no problems using my Win95/PC. Thanks for your help. Bob Trout rtrout@capecod.net
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:44:12 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> wrote: > Hi, > > I was just checking out /pub/next/OpenStep/database/apps and I find > something called OpenBase. The readme file really doesn't tell me > much about this program. It says (in part): > > OpenBase Gamma (November 7, 1996) > OpenBase SQL Server for OpenStep 4.1 Mach > > Obviusly I can assume that it is some kind of sql database program > that runs under OpenStep. And since it is 'Gamma' I guess it's not a > final release. But beyond the obvious what do you know about it? Is > it any good? How complete is it? Is it commercial? shareware? > freeware? Connects with EOF? Can quality apps be built using it or is > it more or less a toy? Check: http://www.openbase.com/ OpenBase is the current version of a product which used to be called QuickBase, and the company used to be called SofDesign Solutions. I used to work with QuickBase, and I thought it was a very good product. When NeXT and Sun started talking about OpenStep, SofDesign changed the name of QuickBase to OpenBase, and changed the name of the company to match. It is a relational database management engine. It can be used with just plain SQL commands (or at least it used to), or you can use EOF to connect to it. My guess is that this "gamma" version is one which has been rewritten to the OpenStep API's (instead of NeXTSTEP API's). So while this *rewrite* may be a gamma version, the company is not a newcomer to writing database engines for the NeXTSTEP environment. From their web pages: Since 1991, OpenBase International has sold OpenBase and QuickBase database software to customers in 37 foreign countries, spanning over 20 industries. Customers such as Canon, the Royal Danish Police, MCI, AT&T, and NeXT Software use OpenBase for building mission critical applications. Now OpenBase delivers high-speed database access over the internet. It is a commercial product. I don't know the current pricing, but as I remember it used to be priced at around the $1,000 level. That was a few years ago though, I have no idea of the current pricing. Note that this is a product more for developers, it is not an end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database users look at Create from Stone Design. Certainly worth looking into. There might be some information about it at www.stepwise.com, too. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Mickey Finnegan <mick_fenn@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box --- CORRECTION... Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 20:22:04 -0700 Organization: Electric Lightwave, Inc. Message-ID: <3320DB5C.44A2@hotmail.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have to print a correction and an apology. When I stated 40mhz in my original post, I meant a 68040 chip. I was thinking faster than my mind works. Because of this I erroneously corrected David Evans who correctly stated the 40mhz boards were rare. I was still thinking 68040 series processor. As david pointed out, I do, indeed have a 25mhz machine, not 40. Please accept my apology...... -Mike mike allison wrote: > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > be a screamer for most everything. > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > Thanks, > > -Mike
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:31:42 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5fo26u$oof$3@news.xmission.com> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > [...OpenBase...]. > Note that this is a product more for developers, it is not an > end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database users > look at Create from Stone Design. I think you meant DataPhile. :-) I use both DataPhile and OpenBase...and like them both. As Garance says, one is the high end SQL engine for EOF, etc. and the other is a "personal" flat file DB which is good enough for many users who don't need a relational database. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703061430.JAA07541@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:30:26 -0500 Subject: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but does anyone know how to reply to a NeXTMail message with font-changes, etc and have the original message's formatting remain? Every time I have a message in NeXTMail and click 'reply' the text turns to ascii. I thought there was a way to do it, perhaps I've forgotten. TjL
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 6 Mar 1997 19:58:44 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I solely use lynx as my web browser, as I must interact from home via my modem (TipTop software) a ttty terminal. (NeXTStep 3.2, and Lynx 2.6.) I have a problem that makes using Lynx rather difficult. I believe it only appeared when I upgraded in 1996 to v. 2.6 from an unknown earlier version. What happens is that the page sifts up a line or two, or sometimes much more, by which time it is quite unreadable. THus, for instance, normally at the bottom of the lynx screen I will see (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list But sometimes, for instance on the official lynx homepage, just to underscore that it is not a problem of the site, a line will be added at the bottom and it will look like Data transfer complete (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate.k; Left to go back. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list Or, for instance when I pursue a link, it might look like: Getting http://www.yahoo.com/text/headlines/tech/ -- press space for next page -- H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list The effct is that I must realize that the cursor is also shifted, so what line the crusor is one above is in fact the link that is pursued. Now that I have grown used to, but sometimes the problem just gets worse and worse. Here is an extra line in the shift: Data trof view. (Text entry field) Enter text. Use UP or DOWN arrows or tab to move off. H Enter text into the field by typing on the keyboard NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrowvor <retu n> tollctivate. H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history list (Actually, that was two extra lines!) A second problem is that when I page down, if a word on the previous page (or link) was highlighted, then so long as at that precise location on the screen no new text appears, that highlighted word still persists. THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS! When links are scattered across the page, this often makes reading quite impossible. THis problem most certainly did not exist in the earlier version of lynx that I had which did not so obviously highlight the links. ANyhow, am I alone in these prooblems? I sthere something that can be done about them. They totally degrade the web browsing experience! Lynx is my only (remote) option. Thanks, Lones .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Info on OpenBase? Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:28:16 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo5h0$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331DE279.139E@navix.net> <5fnocs$snn@usenet.rpi.edu> <5fo26u$oof$3@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > > Note that [OpenBase] is a product more for developers, it is > > not an end-user database system. I'd recommend casual database > > users look at Create from Stone Design. > > I think you meant DataPhile. :-) Uh, yeah. People wanting a database would probably have better luck with DataPhile than Create... Sorry about that! > I use both DataPhile and OpenBase...and like them both. As > Garance says, one is the high end SQL engine for EOF, etc. and > the other is a "personal" flat file DB which is good enough for > many users who don't need a relational database. Yep! --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:37:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo62m$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <199703061430.JAA07541@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > Maybe I'm being a little slow here, but does anyone know how to > reply to a NeXTMail message with font-changes, etc and have the > original message's formatting remain? > > Every time I have a message in NeXTMail and click 'reply' the > text turns to ascii. > > I thought there was a way to do it, perhaps I've forgotten. Under preferences, check the "Compose" panel and turn on "Reply in the same format". I forget if this is one of those funky options that you have to quit and restart Mail.app for it to take effect. (I wouldn't think so...). If that's not working for some reason, you mainly need to make sure that your compose window is in NeXTmail format before you click on the "Forward" button to copy the original message. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Date: 6 Mar 1997 12:24:01 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <33206A10.1E876EE7@konnections.com> References: <331D8B68.4C64@smart.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gh@smart.net Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gh@smart.net wrote: > > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. > > Thanks, > --gh --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="bgcd.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="bgcd.txt" From - Sun Feb 16 19:54:09 1997 Received: from tanith.skylee.com (tanith.skylee.com [207.44.161.70]) by mail.konnections.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id VAA25713 for <mallison@konnections.com>; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:51:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by tanith.skylee.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA14634; Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:51:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:51:08 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199702100451.UAA14634@tanith.skylee.com> To: mallison@konnections.com From: Majordomo@skylee.com Subject: Welcome to bgcd-announce Reply-To: Majordomo@skylee.com Status: RO X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Content-Length: 1233 -- Welcome to the bgcd-announce mailing list! If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to "Majordomo@skylee.com" with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe bgcd-announce mallison@konnections.com Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: BGCD-announce is a low-volume, moderated mailing list for announcements about current and future editions of the Big Green CD, a collection of freely-redistributable software for NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP systems. If you do not use NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP, you will have little interest in this mailing list. Announcements will include information about upcoming releases, the status of a new edition at the factory, ship dates, and (in the unlikely event it proves necessary) critical technical support information. Administrative Info =================== To subscribe, send e-mail to <bgcd-announce-request@skylee.com> with the single word SUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. To unsubscribe, send e-mail to <bgcd-announce-request@skylee.com> with the single word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of your message. To contact a human, e-mail <postmaster@skylee.com>. --------------3EE84AAC1CB3D8913B64E2F0--
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:45:41 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Message-ID: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> I am posting this message because I am quite upset about the way the ask_next people handled my question and maybe somebody out there will give me a hand on this. The message is a little bit long (sorry!), but I didn't want to take anything away that would rest meaning to the question. There are 3 parts to this posting. The first one is the original letter I sent to ask_next@next.com after one of their technicians advised me to do so over the phone. The second one is the Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply, and finally my last message to him. Thank you for your patience!. RMC ----------- 1. Original letter to ask_next ------------------------- Dear Sirs, I called NeXT Technical Support, spoke to one of your technicians and he indicated that this should be something you could be interested on. Here is the problem. I have been a NeXTStep user for 7 years since I got my beloved NeXTStation Turbo Mono. Since then I have upgraded my operating system several times but the time has come to get a new faster system (Pentium Pro 200). I work on the enviromental modeling field, namely developing FORTRAN finite elements models for surface runoff. I bought OpenStep 4.1 Academic User/Dev for Intel 20 days ago, installed it and tested on the new system and so far works great!. I checked for a FORTRAN compiler (comercial or not) for the operating system and was quite depressed to find that both Absoft and NAG have discontinued support for OS4.1. It seems the the only available choices are the new GNU g77 or the f2c script. g77 seems to be quite interesting since GNU claims that you can do gdb debugging and some optimization. I downloaded gcc-2.7.2.2 and g77-0.5.19 from the archives a month ago and tried to install it into the new OpenStep 4.1 (with the devoloper package) system. When trying to compile it it went OK through the configure step but then it stopped at the make bootstrap process. I posted a message to the next.comp.sys.software and next.comp.sys.software newsgroups to see if somebody had encountered this problem and had found a work-around. A fellow (thank you Dave!) answered explaining that the new OpenStep libraries are dynamic and that a new nextstep.h (in the config subdirectory of the GNU distribution) needed to be used in place of the one included (I am including the file below). I tried this and it compiled (with lots of warnings during linking time). Finally, I compiled and run a model written in FORTRAN77 and after similar linking warnings from g77 I obtained an executable and run it. The program run OK but the results are quite different to those obtained with any other compiler I have used up to now (f77 DEC, f77 sun, MS-FORTRAN Power station for NT or even f2c). I am certain by exchanging messages over the net that the NeXT OpenStep community will apreciate very much your efforts since as I said before, we, FORTRAN Users don't seem to have any other choices at this time. Please let me know if you need any further info. RMC -------------- 2. Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply --------------------- From: Christopher Hapka <Christopher_Hapka@next.com> Subject: [107567] Problem with g77 on OpenStep 4.1 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 16:39:15 -0800 Dear Dr. Munoz-Carpena, Ask_Next@next.com is provided as a communication mechanism for information about NeXT Software, Inc. products. Unfortunately, we are unable to provide support for third-party development tools or other third-party products. Please contact the vendor of your FORTRAN compiler for assistance. Thank you, Chris Hapka Objectline Engineer Apple Computer, Inc. - NeXT Software ---------------------- 3. My reply to him ------------------------- Dear Chris, Thanks for your VERY STUPID reply... As you probably are aware of, g77 is a freeware (no vendor here Chris) GNU (Free Software Foundation) fortran 77 compiler, developed by a number of volunteers around the net. As I understand it, NeXT cc compiler was developed originally from the GNU source code. When I sent you my message, the intention was to let you know that you guys changed something fundamental between NeXTStep and OpenStep, so that the GNU cc and g77, that used to compile just fine under NS3.x, does not compile anymore in OS 4.x. So I was asking for a hint to what had changed and how I could get around it to get the software to compile (in my original message (see below) I said that somebody mentioned something about the dynamic libraries). If NeXT is to make it on the long run it will have to help users like me that are willing to move along the upgrade line and make things work. Visit the news and you will see questions about: does it work under 4.x?, is it better or worse?. I am sorry to find out that in the end you guys don't care about it, just give the easy answer and forget about it. I am still stuck with no FORTRAN compiler because you guys did not get along with Absoft so that they can develop the new version of their Fortran compiler or because the NAG people don't feel they can invest any resources to support a dead operating system. Chris, you just proved them right. RMC -- R. Munoz-Carpena, Ph.D. Visiting Scholar e-mail:rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu BAE Dept. Box 7625 Fax: (919)515-7760 North Carolina State University Phone:(919)515-6732 Raleigh, NC 27695-2625
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 05:27:27 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) wrote: > I am posting this message because I am quite upset about the way > the ask_next people handled my question and maybe somebody out > there will give me a hand on this. [...] The first one is the > original letter I sent to ask_next@next.com after one of their > technicians advised me to do so over the phone. The second one > is the Chris Hapka (NeXT) reply, and finally my last message to > him. Thank you for your patience!. While I can understand your frustration, the reply from ask_next is perfectly understandable to me. The fact that the thing you want to use comes from GNU does not mean that NeXT has to support it when you want to use it. Support costs time and money. NeXT (really Apple now) has a few other important issues they have to address, issues that *only* they can address. No matter how you phrase your reply to that observation, the fact remains that you are asking them to support free software. If they have the right answer for your problem, then obviously they should provide it. However, if they do not *already* have the answer for the problem you see, then it is quite reasonable for them to say "We did not write this, we do not have the time to look into it". The problem is not that Apple is too busy to provide you with support for free software, the problem is that you have no other good options for fortran on OpenStep. If Apple does a good job getting Rhapsody together, then it is much more likely that writers of fortran compilers will support both Rhapsody and NeXTSTEP. The best thing for Apple and OpenStep users right now is for Apple to get the Rhapsody project working. I understand that this reply (my reply) is not very helpful either, and I'm sympathetic to that. I recently had some people ask me about NeXTSTEP, who ended up going somewhere else due to the lack of a good fortran compiler. I agree completely with the idea that availability of a fortran compiler would be an advantage for the OpenStep platform, but it is not Apple's business to write fortran compilers. Their business is to get the operating system together, and to make sure the transition from MacOS to Rhapsody is successful. If they do *that* job, then other companies will handle the issue of fortran compilers. If Apple does not succeed at that job, then it won't really make any difference if there's a fortran compiler available for a platform which (by then) will be dead. In your reply to the comments from ask_next, you said: > Thanks for your VERY STUPID reply... As you probably are aware > of, g77 is a freeware (no vendor here Chris) GNU (Free Software > Foundation) fortran 77 compiler, developed by a number of > volunteers around the net. I imagine that ask_next probably understands that quite well. I'd say your reply is much more stupid and obnoxious than theirs, because you are lecturing them on something that *you* do not seem to understand. If g77 is supported by volunteers, then you have to go to *those* people for questions. It is not the responsibility of Apple/NeXT to support everything which has been written by volunteers outside the of company, particular for things made available to you for free and which Apple had nothing to do with. This is particularly true for a large and complex program such as a compiler, where it really could take them a fair amount of time to investigate what is going on. Now, there are many helpful people in the GNU area, and I do sincerely hope that someone in that group knows the answer to the situation you are facing. I do think that the reply you got from ask_next was perfectly reasonable, that your reply to them was not, and I felt I should say so. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9703060855.AA05283@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 09:55:47 +0100 Subject: 4 SALE: Correction Quix Daydream Sorry, I wanted to post this to marketplace...... Should't do more than 3 thing at a time... ;-) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 7 Mar 1997 09:11:14 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5fom3i$rli@library.airnews.net> References: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) wrote: > [...Lynx2.6 for NS...] > What happens is that the page sifts up a line or two, or sometimes much > more, by which time it is quite unreadable. Lones, I've used lynx in xterm/Terminal.app/Procomm(Windows) and a bunch of other terminal apps, and I have experienced most of problems you've described here with Procomm. Some of problems might be with your lynx settings and some are results of poor curses implementation (not likely) or vt100 (or whatever) emulation of the application. Although I ran into some other weird problems using Terminal.app with PPP link, I don't have the highlighting nightmare nor the messed-up status lines you see with lynx in TipTop window (?). [I've never seen or used TipTop.] But I used to have very similar problems when I had to rely on Procomm on Windows and lynx. > [...] > (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate. > H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history > list > But sometimes, for instance on the official lynx homepage, just to > [...] > it will look like > Data transfer complete > (NORMAL LINK) Use right-arrow or <return> to activate.k; Left to go > back. > H)elp O)ptions P)rint G)o M)ain screen Q)uit /=search [delete]=history > list > [...] Do you have the Novice mode turned on? I doubt you still need the prompts since you've been using it for so long. Tryng upgrade yourself to "Advanced" either by editing ~/.lynxrc or use "O" -> "u" in lynx. It should get rid of the the lines on the bottom. One thing I've learned using Procomm on Windows was that you'll need to tweak all the terminal setting you can to get a better result for applications that rely on a standard (e.g. vt100) behavior, like lynx. I guess TipTop has plenty of these configs as well. Also, you'll need to make sure the TERM variable on the account you dial into should be set to match the terminal type emulated by TipTop, this could be causing part of your screen refresh/redraw problems with lynx. > A second problem is that when I page down, if a word on the previous page > (or link) was highlighted, then so long as at that precise location > on the screen no new text appears, that highlighted word still persists. > [...] This might be a bug in lynx, although I really doubt it, since I don't have such a problem with lynx in xterms and terminal.app. But if it persists after you've tweaked in all the above mentioned places, a temporary relief is to hit "Ctrl-l" to force refresh of screen. If "Ctrl-l" still doesn't work, it's a good bet that you've got a mismatched terminal config between TipTop and TERM settting on your dialin account. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: vta@ludens.elte.hu (DMON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can OpenStep switch off an Intel machine through APM? Message-ID: <1997Mar7.101834.37926@ludens> Date: 7 Mar 97 10:18:34 +0100 Organization: Eotvos University, Budapest, Hungary Dear all, I'm a hungarian student. I have an intel machine which can be switched off programatically through an appropriate APM BIOS call. What do you think, how can I manage OpenStep to switch off the machine instead of saying "Now it's safe to turn off the computer."? Thanks for any comments, advices. Best wishes, Tibor
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: cmsg cancel <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Control: cancel <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:45:41 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Sender: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Message-ID: <cancel.5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Please cancel this article
From: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SUMMARY: Which X server? Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:02:16 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien Message-ID: <5fp3ko$ajj@news.Austria.EU.net> > Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Four products can be found, two of them still being supported: 1. Xnext: URL: http://skynet.oph.rwth-aachen.de/~sl/Xnext/ Price: USD 20 (shareware registration fee) Platforms: i386 (Mach), m68k, hppa, sparc X-Version: X11R6 Comments: low-cost solution, not very fast 2. MouseX: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/X11/server/MouseX Price: None (?), Not supported anymore Platform: m68k (NS >= 3.0) X-Version: X11R5 Comments: out-of-date 3. CubXWindow: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.orf/pub/comp/platforms/next/commercial/X11/ Price: USD 275 (commercial runtime), write to cubx@intuisys.com for information about academic and development prices Platforms: i386 (Mach), m68k (no ND), hppa, sparc (all NS >= 3.2) X-Version: X11R6 Comments: most advanced solution, costs a little 4. co-Xist: URL: ftp://peanuts.leo.orf/pub/comp/platforms/next/commercial/X11/ Price: mail to co-Xist_info@pencom.com for information Platforms: i386 (NS >= 3.2), m68k (NS >= 3.1), hppa (NS >= 3.2) X-Version: X11R5 Comments: Not supported anymore -- *************** Dipl.-Ing. Wilhelm Pitzeier **************** ***** AAA+ Software Forschungs- und Entwicklungs-GmbH ****** *************** A-1010 Rotenturmstrasse 22 ***************** ******** E-Mail: willi@aaa-plus.com (NEXT/MIME/ISO) ******** * ISDN Voice: (+43 1) 5336665/32 **** Fax: (+43 1) 5336890 * * Private: A-1060 Stiegengasse 9/14 * Tel. (+43 1) 5813472 * ************************************************************ "Happiness lies in being privileged to work hard for long hours in doing whatever you think is worth doing." -Jubal Harshaw money on free development for g77. A lot of Gnu developers are really interested to get there programs fine ang bug free. If you can provode good bug reports, they probably will help you. If you can provide a machine or similiar, they probably will solve your problem. If you spend money, you also might get firms, which provide support for g77. Even the FSF/GNU has a gold service and will compile their program for your favorite system, (to raise funds for their free projects) ;-> Regards Bernhard Reiter
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ncftp doesn't work? Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:14:12 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fp4b4$ikt@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does anyone know why my ncftp doesn't work? It stops whenever creating a new directory (I use it for mirroring) (with the message:couldn't creat directory, file exists). I use OpenStep4.0/Intel Thanks a lot, Khanh Nguyen,
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:17:53 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5fp4i1$adl$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5fn7ll$iet@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) writes: There are many configurable things in the TERMINAL emulation. But lynx also might have a bug, why not trying the new 2.7? Bernhard
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I suddenly have a background image Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:11:54 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5fo11q$4gd@dropit.pgh.net> I was fiddling with a TIFF image earlier. I finally quit the program and logged off. Later, when I logged back on, the image appeared as my background (or desktop). I have never had anything but the normal grey background. I don't know what is causing this or how to get rid of it. It also seems to be slowing down the machine. Can you help? ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE]
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp Date: 7 Mar 1997 14:24:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fp8ea$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? Open Digital Librarian and load /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin. Then search for PPP. The manual describes step by step what you need to do to get connected. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:33:10 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > Thanks for responding to > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > Jorg Schumacher I ordered it from Adobe. The biggest problem is that you can't just buy a font any more. You have to get a CD-ROM with a zillion fonts on it and then unlock the ones you want (and pay for). Of course there's no software for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to do this. I unlocked the fonts on a Solaris machine here and then copied the font files to my NeXTstation. I hope Rhapsody makes it big enough that this sort of annoyance will no longer be necessary! Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 7 Mar 1997 15:49:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpdec$me4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fb04n$mc4$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> Cc: mallison@konnections.com In <331E587D.497106F@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > Rudy: > > I don't know that I wouldn't want to run NeXT 3.2, if I had some places > to get copies of it. As for LINUX, let's see: > > I run it on my Intel machines (& soon my Macs...) The same with OpenStep > I can usually find someone who can answer questions Same here. > Internals & source code are available That is what makes me scream. > It's solid and continuously tested and upgraded (and the > upgrades are available, unlike NeXT) I am not interested in continuous upgrading of my system. And no, I don't enjoy recompiling kernels every other week. > > Oh......it's free...... > Yup. We had it as a server for some time. And had to get rid of it. > I can run Applix on it > It is usually faster in similar implementations than commercial UNIX > packages. > Cannot comment. > I prefer X Window > I don't. > Need I go on? > > If NeXT 3.2 of so great give me your copy.... > I am missin the logic here. If NeXT 3.2 if so bad, would YOU mind giving me YOUR copy? You don't need it anymore. I do. I would prefer NS 3.3 though. Please e-mail me for my shipping address. Oh, and I will pay shipping. Thanks, Rudy. > -Mike > > Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > > > > In <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> mike allison wrote: > > > Is anyone aware of efforts to port LINUX/FreeBSD/NETBSD, etc to 68k NeXT > > > systems? This would really (in my humble O) breathe new life into these > > > machines. LINUX w/X Window on a 40mhz 16M memory machine would really > > > be a screamer for most everything. > > > > > > NS 4.x will be a system hog with too much overhead to run apps. Not to > > > mention it would cost so much to replicate what's available under LINUX. > > > > > > If you can/know.... email me mallison@konnections.com > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > -Mike > > > > > > > I am running NS 3.2 and am not moving to OpenStep. If it is not a screamer, > > at least I don't have to scream. Could tell me why one would want to run > > Linux instead of NeXTstep 3.2 [That idea scares me and DOES make me scream]. > > > > I might be missing a point, so I would like learn .... > > > > Good luck. > > > > Rudy. > > > > -- > > Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > > blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability > -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:12:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Cc: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > Thanks for responding to > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > Jorg Schumacher > Could you post the info here? I would like to know more about it too. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 7 Mar 1997 16:19:55 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm248-21.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fpf7b$me4$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Cc: hans@onevision.de In <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> Hans Stoeger wrote: > In article <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> cfwood@vcn.bc.ca (Colin Wood) > writes: > > I also have emailed for information on ordering the cdrom and have also > > got no reply. Whats up with these guys? > > > I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare > time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. > You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing > sorry for the delay we are busy? > The vacation unix utility would do the job. Or do they have some kind of an automated reply message? Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: GNU gcc & g77 FORTRAN, OpenStep 4.1 and NeXT Inc. Date: 7 Mar 1997 20:35:50 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Message-ID: <5fpu76$ro6@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> References: <5fo315$8ss@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Garance, In <5fo8vv$4o8@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn wrote: > >[...] The problem is not that Apple is too busy to provide you with > support for free software, the problem is that you have no other > good options for fortran on OpenStep. > > I understand that this reply (my reply) is not very helpful either, > and I'm sympathetic to that. I recently had some people ask me > about NeXTSTEP, who ended up going somewhere else due to the lack > of a good fortran compiler... I am glad to see that my message got through and my point is made. > I imagine that ask_next probably understands that quite well. I'd > say your reply is much more stupid and obnoxious than theirs, > because you are lecturing them on something that *you* do not seem > to understand. Thanks for the lecture ; - ) >[...] I do think that the reply you got from > ask_next was perfectly reasonable, that your reply to them was not, > and I felt I should say so. Good for you! : - ) Now, I apologize for what you found not reasonable, but again sometimes you need to resort to some noise to be heard. I hope NeXT (Apple) got the message!. Best regards, Rafa -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dr. Rafael Munoz-Carpena, Researcher, Soil & Water Department | | INSTITUTO CANARIO DE INVESTIGACIONES AGRARIAS - ICIA | | Apdo. 60 - Laguna, 38200 Tenerife (Spain) | |Tno:+34-22-476343;Fax:+34-22-476303;e-mail:carpena@icia.rcanaria.es| +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: web applications Date: 7 Mar 1997 21:33:00 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5fq1ic$lti$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> References: <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> In article <jlimpert-0603972002060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> writes: > Help. > > Where do I get shareware web applications for > > email > > http > > ftp > > etc. > > newsreader. > > thanks. Some these are available under http:/www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1470.htmld/1470.html#worldwideweb fornextstep Narendra. PS. The problem I have in downloading PPP 2.3 is that file is more than 1.4 Mb and I do not have a way of downloading from a working Omniweb on Next. I may try downloading through win 95 ftp as a binary and see if it works!
From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeuroSolutions Date: 7 Mar 1997 22:55:59 GMT Organization: Oak Ridge National Lab, Oak Ridge, TN Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> The developer of this incredible neural network software no longer supports the original NeXT version. I am looking to buy an existing license, or trade for one from software that I own. Interested parties, please e-mail. Thanks in advance -- CB
From: cello@virgil.harvard.edu (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: 7 Mar 1997 22:52:25 GMT Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <5fq679$dov$1@news.fas.harvard.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227165446.13907A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : On 27 Feb 1997, Eberhard Wolff wrote: : > Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : > : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats : > : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd : > : files on the hard disk... : > : Would it be possible to do this from the coaxial/electrical : (or optical) digital output of a audio dat machine (preferably to a next, : 4.1 openstep computer, if not to windows). I have to create a CDimage with : sound examples accompanying a forthcoming book publication. : thanks, : bald You can do it with this new driver Tomas Hurka has written for the AdB Digital Multiwav Pro and Pro-18 cards. We're just finishing up beta testing of the driver, which is working nicely on both the Pro and the Pro 18 cards. They will allow you to transfer digitally from DAT to Hard Disk and make .snd files to burn to a CD. You can see about the Multiwav Card at http://www.adbdigital.com We'll be officially be releasing the driver in about 2 weeks. Stay tuned. Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Center -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sean Varah Harvard Computer Music Center cello@mario.harvard.edu, http://www-mario.harvard.edu NeXTMail Welcome - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Real Audio <-> .snd ? Message-ID: <1997Mar7.173012.95359@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 7 Mar 97 17:30:12 MDT Distribution: world Are there any tools to convert a Real Audio file (or stream) to something that can be played on NEXT/OPENSTEP? Any information that might be useful would be appreciated. TIA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3320de27.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 8 Mar 97 03:33:59 GMT jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? > >any help would be appreciated. > >jlimpert@pathfinder.com For NS 3.3 check out http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ for a good PPP software package. NS 3.3 did not come with PPP so you won't find it in the documentation. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071902.OAA05626@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 14:02:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Mail.app: Reply-in-same-format - NeXTMail - and keep fonts, etc? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - Responding To: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Original Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:37:42 GMT Message-ID: 6eee4c64da2f2828101faa2916fa6af3 - > Under preferences, check the "Compose" panel and turn on "Reply in > the same format". I forget if this is one of those funky options > that you have to quit and restart Mail.app for it to take effect. > (I wouldn't think so...). > > If that's not working for some reason, you mainly need to make sure > that your compose window is in NeXTmail format before you click on > the "Forward" button to copy the original message. I have the dwrite setup (Garance, how could you think such things about me?! ;-) but the problem is that when I hit reply and the text is inserted into the Compose window (due to EnhanceMail I believe), it is all ASCII. I was wondering if there is a way to put the ">" quoting in without losing the RTF text of a NeXTMail message. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071853.NAA05466@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:53:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Bugs with Lynx on NeXT Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - Responding To: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 19:58:44 GMT Message-ID: 35d222a6ec18f276b9727359ca9a4b0e - > I have a problem that makes using Lynx rather difficult. I believe > it only appeared when I upgraded in 1996 to v. 2.6 from an unknown > earlier version. What happens is that the page sifts up a line or > two, or sometimes much more, by which time it is quite unreadable. I use lynx, 2.6 on my NeXTStation running 3.3. I checked out the main lynx page and 'http://www.yahoo.com/text/headlines/tech/' and neither one of them seemed to have any display problems. I am using Stuart and zsh.... not sure if that matters... I've also got what I think is a newer VT100 entry: d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100am|dec vt100:\ :cr=^M:nl=^J:bl=^G:ta=^I:\ :do=^J:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:sf=2*\ED:\ :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\ :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\ :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\ :ct=2\E[3g:st=2\EH:\ :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:\ :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h:ke=\E[?1l:\ :ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\ :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:pt:sr=2*\EM:vt#3:xn:\ :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:\ :it#8:xo: which you might try. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071844.NAA05244@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: c554d97af54a9e3fd92a47f061cfbcd7 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:44:34 -0500 Subject: Re: web applications Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c554d97af54a9e3fd92a47f061cfbcd7 - Responding To: jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:58:08 GMT > Help. > Where do I get shareware web applications for > > email none, use /NextApps/Mail.app > http free for one-user (choose your arch): ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.H.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.I.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.S.tar.gz > ftp ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/ncftp.2.4.2.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/ncftp.2.4.2.README OR ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/Yftp.0.9653.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ftp/Yftp.0.9653.README > newsreader. there are numerous files at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/news/ You might take a look at my web page, where I talk about a lot of these things: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 8 Mar 1997 02:32:42 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> NS3.3p1 Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what you did to the config/Makefiles. Or, if you'd like to see my compilation log, you're welcome to it. In the meantime, I'm going back to FreeBSD, where I have something that works. :-) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Overeem) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Date: 8 Mar 1997 11:37:55 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5frj2j$i3l$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running NS3.3dev) and I would like to use the user database option. All is okay except that NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the documentation calls for in order to create the ".db" file. It is supposed to be a btree db file. Anyone have an executable of this or perhaps knows how to do it a different way? Dave overeem.1@osu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071805.NAA04842@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:05:09 -0500 Subject: Re: WP 1.01 extended characters -- problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - Responding To: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Original Date: 5 Mar 1997 15:49:23 GMT Message-ID: 1090bb10df9c047c45d56d274b3e3b26 - > WordPerfect installs in TWO passes: first for an Apps > location, and then for a Library location. Ah, right, I remembered the /LocalLibrary/ stuff but forgot the font stuff > Extended characters are provided by a special set of PostScript > fonts (which by the way look LOUSY on screen, because they didn't > provide optimized bitmaps for screen resolutions). "lousy" is a rather large understandment. They printout OK, but they look like crayon drawings on the screen, or a bad felt-tip pen. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071802.NAA04802@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:01:57 -0500 Subject: Re: Where is Big Green CD? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - Responding To: gh@smart.net Original Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:04:08 -0500 Message-ID: d86cd81450012ea05dc8b91f94f56103 - > Can someone point me to the Big Green CD and any > other shareware for OPENSTEP. There isn't much shareware/freeware for OpenStep yet, but there are several CD packages available. I can tell you from personal experience that the Big Green CD and Nebula are both excellent sets of recent apps and info. You can find information on both of those CDs (plus all the others currently available for NeXTStep) at my NeXT page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071814.NAA04897@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:14:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with modem setup Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - Responding To: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Original Date: 5 Mar 1997 16:03:49 GMT Message-ID: 9ca704c04ae47e023a190f258770d2a1 - > I tried using tip on with my NeXTStation with simaler results. > I did not find how to fix the problem, but have a solution, > that was to use kermit. I found kermit to work fine and I am > using it at this moment. Version 6.0 of kermit is now out, and compiled for NeXT, Intel and Sparc (I couldn't get HP to work.... if someone else does, please let me know) The files compiled quite easily (for single-arch, and then were combined to make NeXT-Intel and NeXT-Sparc versions available) You can find them here: http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ck60ubin.html FYI - For those who may not know: kermit is a free, self-supported program. What does that mean? Shareware, but it is a little different because you don't pay for kermit, you pay for something else (say, a complete manual). If you buy the manual, etc from Columbia, you are contributing to the cost of maintaining the program. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071838.NAA05202@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:38:34 -0500 Subject: Re: Printer software modification Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - Responding To: schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:54:34 GMT Message-ID: 360626dd42af662376308892bf711bb8 - > I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification > that allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at > the time you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the > beginning of every session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? There are 2 daemons which do this, one called 'npoffd' and the other called something like 'nppowerd'.... one of these days I'll package them up and put them on PEAK... (they are available now via email and HTTP) I use npoffd without any problem. The printer is turned on at the boot time and then shuts down. It turns itself on magically when needed (the first page will be a little delayed while the printer warms up) and turns off X minutes later (whatever you tell X to be). My mailserver includes these 5 files: npoffd.README npoffd.gz npoffd.c nppowerd.c.gz nppowerd.gz The middle one is the precompiled binary. If you send me a message with the SUBJECT send-mime npoffd.gz you will get the binary sent back magically as a MIME attachment. (NOTE: don't put commands in the BODY of the message! You must use the right SUBJECT line) You can get the other two files the same way, just replace the name, or get them via the web, jump to 'mailserver files' from my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ or for the impatient who don't want to see my lovely page ;-) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/ For those who care, the md5 stamp for the above files: 2d4fe3d4594483675c17ca870e65bcdd npoffd.c.gz b80e4fca9907a750d81c3deb5ce609d4 npoffd.gz f8aeef621d2bafaa8f58c5045a335fe9 nppowerd.c.gz 8ac054e9a4303ed084d2663153371010 nppowerd.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for Sonata font Date: 8 Mar 1997 03:11:06 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5fqlca$748@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> <5fpep8$me4$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> Cc: eric@skatter.USask.Ca In <5fpg06$rh2@tribune.usask.ca> eric@skatter.USask.Ca wrote: > In <schumach-0603972247300001@129.194.16.71> Jorg Schumacher wrote: > > Well, I guess the subject says it all. > > Thanks for responding to > > > > schumach@uni2a.unige.ch > > > > Jorg Schumacher > > I ordered it from Adobe. The biggest problem is that you can't just buy a > font any more. You have to get a CD-ROM with a zillion fonts on it and then > unlock the ones you want (and pay for). Of course there's no software for > NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP to do this. I unlocked the fonts on a Solaris machine here > and then copied the font files to my NeXTstation. > I ordered and got just the Sonata font from Adobe. Here's the contact: On Sat, 08 Feb 1997, Kelly Tweddell <ktweddel@Adobe.COM> wrote: > Kelly Tweddell <ktweddel@Adobe.COM> > Subject: Sonata Pricing > > The price on the Adobe Sonata is $25.99 and we do have it in stock. > If you have any other questions you can call us at 1-800-661-9410. > > Thanks > Kelly Tweddell > Image Club Graphics > Customer Service They said to order the Mac version. It took a few steps: take Adobe floppy and copy font to Mac HD. Copy font to Mac floppy. Put Mac floppy on NEXTSTEP machine. Download FontConvert.app from the Web. Use it on the font file on the Mac disk.=> NeXT version. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: multiple desktops Date: 8 Mar 1997 17:06:41 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5fs6b1$qvn@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi! Is anybody aware of a software to have multiple desktops, as this is possible on many platforms such as Linux, Irix etc. Thanks, Thomas reply-to: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP: Converting Fonts From Date: 5 Mar 1997 22:40:51 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <5fkspj$1te@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu> In article <331B6B67.DE4@arch.buffalo.edu>, <wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu> wrote: >Hello: > >How can I convert a Font from a NeXT to something >useable by Windows NT? You have to do three things: 1) NeXT fonts (*.font) are actually directories -- which you have to open (using "open as directory" from the file menu) to get at the actual font files -- fontname.afm and fontname.pfa . 2) You have to convert these files to forms usable by Windows (and Adobe ATM). Now, I don't know how NT (or 95, for that matter) compare in this regard to Windows 3.1. The latter is all I know about. For 3.1, you must convert the fontname.pfa ("ascii") file, which contains the actual font outlines (the letter shapes) into a different ("binary") format which is fontname.pfb ; and, likewise, you have to convert the ascii font-metric file, fontname.afm , into a binary format font-metric file, fontname.pfm . There are programs around that will do these conversions. I have appended to this post, the source code (in C) that will perform the first conversion (at least, for well designed .pfa files). It compiles fine on a NeXT; but it's pretty simple, and should work on anything. There are also programs that will perform the other conversion, but they are inherently unreliable, except for simple situations. The problem is that Windows 3.1 imposes stupid restrictions on font families (they can include ONLY regular, bold, italic, and bolditalic variations). So, if you have font families that include more than 4 -- light, semibold, or whatever -- you have to subdivide them into multiple font families, and then make do with the four allowed variations in each. These changes are indicated in the .pfm files -- but no conversion program can handle this. On the other hand, .pfm files can usually be obtained from font manufacturers for free (they're unencrypted on the Adobe TOC CD, for instance). So, if you can, it's best just to use these, and not try to convert the .afm files. 3) For Windows 3.1, anyway, you have to rename these files so that they have at most eight characters in their filenames. (Indeed, in some cases, it's best if they have exactly eight characters in their filenames.) There are standard abbreviated Windows names for commercial fonts. But, it doesn't matter what you name it, so long as it's different from the name of each other font on your system, and the .pfb and .pfm files have the same filename. Source coce follows: ========================================================================= /* Quick and dirty C program to convert Adobe type-1 font-outline files in .pfa (ASCII) format, as used on Unix systems, to .pfb (binary) format, as used on Windows and OS/2 systems. Three things have to be done in the conversion: 1. The file must be divided into segments, and a header added to each. (These headers will be explained below.) 2. One of the segments -- the encrypted character outlines themselves -- must be converted from hexadecimal representation to binary. 3. $0A (= LF) newline characters must be replaced by $0D (= CR) newline characters. The segment headers are each six bytes (except the last, which needs only the first two bytes). The first byte of every segment header is always $80. The second byte is $01, $02, or $03, encoding what sort of data is in the segment. $01 indicates ASCII data; $02 indicates binary data; and $03 indicates "no more data" -- i.e., end of file. The remaining four bytes of the header are a long integer, least significant byte first, specifying the number of data bytes in the segment (not including the header). The standard arrangement for a type-1 outline file (which is taken for granted here) is as follows: -- It begins with some general information about the font, like the font name, copyright data, whether it's italic, the font bounding box, and so on. This information is in human-readable ASCII text, but in a highly regimented format, so that it can be parsed by the computer as well. The first two characters of the first line are always a percent sign, followed by an exclamation point. This portion of the outline file is exactly the same in .pfa and .pfb formats (except for the newline chars). So this becomes an ASCII segment (code $01) in the .pfb file. It ends with the keyword 'eexec', followed by a newline char. -- Immediately following that newline char, there begins a long list of hexadecimal digits, encoding the bytes of the encrypted character outline definitions. These can have arbitrary amounts of whitespace (space, tab, and newline chars) interspersed, but nothing else. To convert to .pfb format, all those whitespace characters must be removed, and the hex codes converted to binary data -- i.e, two hex digits per byte. So, when converted, these bytes will comprise a binary (code $02) segment in the .pfb format file. -- The encrypted portion of the file must be followed by exactly 512 ASCII zero characters (i.e., $30), again with white space interspersed ad lib, and followed by the keyword 'cleartomark' (and maybe another command or two). The zeroes always seem to begin on a new line; so a line full of zeroes signals the end of the encrypted segment. The zeroes are not converted to binary; so they plus the 'cleartomark' keyword (and others, if any) make a second ASCII (code $01) segment in the .pfb file. -- In the .pfb file, that second ASCII segment must itself be followed by another "header" with the code $03, to indicate the end of the file. This program simply scans the input file twice. The first time, it locates the segment boundaries, keeping count of the relevant bytes along the way, so that it knows how long the segments will be. It also does a little checking to make sure that the file looks like a .pfa format type-1 outline file. Then, on the second pass, it makes the conversion, inserting the headers as needed, and writes the .pfb output file, byte by byte. */ #include <stdio.h> #include <ctype.h> #include <string.h> #define MAXLINE 512 #define PARSE_ERR -1 #define LINE__ERR -2 #define FILE__END -3 void promptforfiles(void); void processfile( void ); int parseinfile( void ); void convertfile( void ); int loadline(void); void outline( void ); void outbinary( void ); int hexbin( int c ); void putheader( int typecode, long int len ); int b_line, c_line, last_line; /* important line numbers */ long int a_len, b_len, c_len; /* the three segment lengths */ int llen, hexnum, znum, allhex, allz; /* results from loadline */ char line[MAXLINE +1]; /* input line buffer */ int d_char, d_lnum; /* for diagnostic output only */ char *err_string; char infilename[FILENAME_MAX + 1]; char outfilename[FILENAME_MAX + 1]; FILE *infile, *outfile; void main (int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; printf("\n pfa2pfb -- Postscript type-1 font outline file conversion.\n"); printf(" John Haugeland 1994\n"); printf(" Released, without warranty, into the public domain.\n\n"); if(argc > 1) { for(i = 1; i < argc; i++) { strncpy(infilename, argv[i], FILENAME_MAX); processfile(); } } else { promptforfiles(); } printf("\n pfa2pfb: processing finished.\n\n"); } void promptforfiles(void) { while( 1 == 1 ) { printf("Enter name of a .pfa file to convert (or: ENTER to quit).\n"); scanf("%s", infilename); processfile(); } } void processfile( void ) { int len; printf(" Processing file: %s\n", infilename); if( (len = strlen(infilename)) > FILENAME_MAX - 4 ) { printf(" Filename too long.\n"); return; } strcpy(outfilename, infilename); if( outfilename[len - 1] == 'a' && outfilename[len - 2] == 'f' && outfilename[len - 3] == 'p' && outfilename[len - 4] == '.' ) { outfilename[len - 1] = 'b'; } else { strcat( outfilename, ".pfb" ); } if( (infile = fopen( infilename, "rb" )) == 0 ) { printf(" Unable to open: %s\n", infilename); return; } if( (outfile = fopen(outfilename, "r")) != 0) { printf(" File: %s already exists.\n", outfilename); fclose( outfile ); return; } if( parseinfile() == PARSE_ERR ) { printf(" File does not seem to be type-1 .pfa format.\n"); printf(" %s\n", err_string); printf(" Line = %d; last char = $%x; line length = %d.\n", \ d_lnum, d_char, llen); fclose( infile ); return; } if( (outfile = fopen(outfilename, "wb")) == 0) { printf(" Unable to open: %s\n", outfilename); fclose( infile ); return; } rewind( infile ); convertfile(); printf(" %s written OKAY.\n", outfilename ); fclose( infile ); fclose( outfile ); } int parseinfile( void ) { int lnum = 0; int phase = 1; int z_tot = 0; int lstat = 0; int ctm_flag = 0; a_len = b_len = c_len = 0; while( phase < 4 ) { if( ( lstat = loadline() ) == FILE__END ) { phase = 4; last_line = lnum; continue; } lnum++; d_lnum = lnum; /* for diagnostic output */ if( lstat == LINE__ERR ) { err_string = "Illegal char, file error, or line too long."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( lnum == 1 && (line[0] != '%' || line[1] != '!') ) { err_string = "File doesn't begin with: %!"; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( phase == 1 ) { a_len += llen; if( strstr(line, "eexec") != NULL ) { b_line = lnum + 1; phase = 2; } } else if( phase == 2) { if( allhex != 1 ) { err_string = "Non-hex char in encrypted segment."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } if( allz != 1) { if( hexnum % 2 != 0 ) { err_string = "Odd number of hex digits in line."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } b_len += hexnum/2; } else /* all zeroes = first line c segment */ { z_tot = znum; c_len = llen; c_line = lnum; phase = 3; } } else if( phase == 3 ) { c_len += llen; if( allz == 1 ) z_tot += znum; if( strstr(line, "cleartomark") != NULL ) ctm_flag = 1; } } if( ctm_flag != 1 || z_tot != 512) { err_string = "No cleartomark, or not 512 zeroes."; return( PARSE_ERR ); } return(0); } void convertfile( void ) { int lnum = 1; putheader( 1, a_len ); while( lnum < b_line ) { loadline(); outline(); lnum++; } putheader( 2, b_len ); while( lnum < c_line ) { loadline(); outbinary(); lnum++; } putheader( 1, c_len ); while( lnum <= last_line ) { loadline(); outline(); lnum++; } putheader( 3, 0 ); } int loadline(void) { int c = 0; llen = hexnum = znum = 0; allhex = allz = 1; while( c != 13 ) /* load till newline */ { if( llen >= MAXLINE - 1 ) return(LINE__ERR); c = getc(infile); if( c == EOF && llen == 0 ) return(FILE__END); if( c == EOF && llen != 0 ) c = 13; if( c == 10 ) c = 13; /* convert LF to CR */ if( c == 13 && llen == 0 ) continue; /* skip empty lines */ if( c == 0 ) continue; /* skip null chars */ d_char = c; /* for diagnostic output */ if( !(isprint(c) || isspace(c)) ) /* error or illegal char */ return(LINE__ERR); line[llen++] = (char) c; if( isspace(c) ) continue; if( c == '0' ) znum++; else allz = 0; if( isxdigit(c) ) hexnum++; else allhex = 0; } line[llen] = 0; /* mark end of string */ return(0); } void outline( void ) { int i = 0; char c; while( (c = line[i++]) != 0 ) fputc( c, outfile ); } void outbinary( void ) { int i = 0; char c; int d; int f = 0; while( (c = line[i++]) != 0 ) { if( !isxdigit(c) ) continue; if( f++ == 0 ) d = 16 * hexbin(c); else { f = 0; d += hexbin(c); fputc( d, outfile ); } } } int hexbin( int c ) { if( c >= 96 ) c -= 32; /* ensure upper case */ return( c < 58 ? c - 48 : c - 55 ); } void putheader( int typecode, long int len ) { fputc( 0x80, outfile ); fputc( typecode, outfile ); if( typecode != 3) { fputc( (int) len % 256, outfile ); fputc( (int) (len/256) % 256, outfile ); fputc( (int) (len/65536) % 256, outfile ); fputc( 0, outfile ); } }
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 8 Mar 1997 21:14:41 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit tralala@mlink.net wrote: > > FYI, all Lighthouse apps (commercial AND academic) do run on NEXTSTEP as > well as OPENSTEP. (English, French, and German versions are available.) > > André Lalonde Don't you mean that they run on OPENSTEP _for Mach_? I didn't think Lighthouse had actually ported their software to be OpenStep compliant which means they don't run on OPENSTEP for NT or for Solaris. Please clarify. -Chuck
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Landscape -> Portrait bug in TeXview (InstantTex) Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 16:04:47 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970308160144.852A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using InstantTex with the TeXview viewer on NS Intel 3.3. Recently, I've been having a portrait/landscape problem with Latex doing things I've done before. With /special{landscape} to set landscape in my document, my file still comes up as portrait in TeXview. If I print it the file comes out as landscape though. If I take out the landscape command, then TeXview shows landscape, but I get portrait if I print. If I change the Preferences to 11 x 8.5 then it switches back until it recompiles when it switches back again. It appears to be doing the opposite of what it should. I've removed all TeXview preferences using dremove and have tried using other Latex files that worked previously with the same results. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Robert rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:25:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. 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From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:12:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> how much hard disk space will i need to install just NS 3.3 User? also, has anyone tried to install NS 3.3 on a Sharp PC 8700 notebook computer? hs
From: Marty Spaulding <martman@net-link.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP !!! Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 21:41:35 -0500 Organization: NetLink Systems, LLC. Message-ID: <3322235F.5B13@net-link.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have developed a webpage which works fine on its own. However many people will access it via another page which utilizes frames. When my page is accessed in this fashion, it gets crammed into a smaller frame and doesn't look too hot. How to I shut off the frames in the linking site ???? HELP ! Please mailto:martman@net-link.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Faxing with Samba Message-ID: <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:05:56 GMT In article <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) writes: > Hi, > > Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running > on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? > The Windows side would need to insert the lines below into the header of the PostScript file and submit them into the print queue of the FAX modem. The equivalent Unix command line would read like: >>>lpr -P<name of the queue> <name of the file> %%NXFaxNotify: YES\ %%NXFaxHires: YES\ %%NXFaxTrim: YES\ %%NXFaxNumber: XXX XXX is the phone number of the designated FAX machine to send to. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 13:41:27 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000903971341270001@news.tiac.net> References: <5fhs1q$m87@nps.navy.mil> <5fl8hq$tsv@supernews.login.net> <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5fsks1$p45$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu>, Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com wrote: > Don't you mean that they run on OPENSTEP _for Mach_? I didn't think > Lighthouse had actually ported their software to be OpenStep compliant which > means they don't run on OPENSTEP for NT or for Solaris. Please clarify. I expect you're correct. If you find out otherwise thru a private post, please let us all know. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 9 Mar 1997 18:42:35 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> In-Reply-To: <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be > free) > Sorry Mike, NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: rangmj@rice.edu (Moon Rang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Graphic Software Date: Sun, 09 Mar 97 23:20:21 GMT Organization: Rice University Message-ID: <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Summary: . I'd like to change the brightness, the pixel resolution, and the type of the graphic files ( tiff, eps ). Can anybody recommend which software can be used and from which ftp site it can be downloaded ? Thanks in advance. Rang
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: help me with ppp Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:47:33 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5fmsf5$krd$10@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <jlimpert-0503971833060001@edit86.edit.pathfinder.com> jlimpert@pathfinder.com (john limpert) wrote: >i have nextstep 3.3 for intel and a pc w/ 28.8 modem. > >how do I get a ppp connection to the internet established?? Take ppp_2_2.0.4.6.s.tar.gz and GateKeeper.2.0.Beta.6.s.tar.gz (or a newer version) from the archives. It shouldn't be to difficult. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: tim@apple.com (Tim Olson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 10 Mar 1997 03:17:33 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. / Somerset Sender: -Not-Authenticated-[8230] Message-ID: <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. In article <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols > during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library > required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've > made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what > you did to the config/Makefiles. I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing the LIBS= line to have the correct path to the libraries listed, and adding $(LIBS) to the kaffe makefile line (before the existing library entry). However, even though that builds kaffe, and I can run the "HelloWorldApp" demo, I cannot run javac: it dies with an assert in intrp/machine.c about the next instruction pointer being greater than the method bounds in one of the Vector class operations. -- Tim Olson Apple Computer, Inc. (tim@apple.com)
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: QuickCam On Next-Step Date: 10 Mar 1997 10:37:45 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> Hello, Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch ? Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use it with NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 samir@interpac.be
From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Adding SCSI datadisk accessable by multiple OSes Date: 10 Mar 1997 11:28:27 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Message-ID: <5g0r8r$fg8@mississippi.rivm.nl> I have a problem configuring a second (2 GB) SCSI disk in my NS 3.3 on Intel machine. It has already an 1 GB SCSI disk with multiple partitions and OS's on it. I want my computer to be able to run NS3.3, DOS and NT (and maybe a fourth later on) and therefor I tried to initialize the second disk as a datadisk, accessable by al these OSes. First I created 4 partitions on the disk with DOS fdisk (and later on with NEXTSTEP fdisk too). After that I wrote a label to the disk with the 'disk' utility because newfs wouldn't make a filesystem. Eventually I made the filesystem with newfs (default parameters). Eventually I was able to mount the filesystem, but after entering an entry in /etc/fstab and rebooting the boottime mount failed AND the label was gone. Only after this, I read the NextAnswers doc# 1533 "Initializing and Partitioning Big Disks". This doc stated that there is a bug in the 3.2 (and 3.3 ?) version of /usr/etc/disk and that one should make an entry in the /etc/disktab. So I followed the recipe in NA doc#1533: 1. low level format (did this with Adaptec SCSI utilities because sdform didn't work; something like REQUEST SENSE failed). This worked. 2. Run /usr/etc/scsimodes to obtain the actual disk parameters. This worked: 512 bytes/sector, IBM DORS-32160 WA6A5U5Z disk, etc. 3. Create an entry in /etc/disktab. I defined 4 partitions with sizes of 800, 500, 500 and 200 MB respectively. Only the first partition with the i-flag (i.e. 'run newsfs on this partition'). I carefully made sure that the sum of the 4 partitions and the frontporch was equal to the number of sectors reported by scsimodes. When running newfs it still reports that about 350 sectors in the last cylinder are unallocated. 4. Write a label to the disk and initialize the disk. Worked well 5. Make an extra entry in /etc/fstab (in my case with /dev/sd2a). Worked well, that is: at boottime NEXTSTEP registers sd2a, sd2b, sd2c and sd2d and mounts sd2a. But when I want to access the disk from DOS (fdisk) it tells me that there are no partitions. So I suspect that the partitions in /etc/distab are something completely different from the fdisk partitions (?). Questions: - Is it possible to configure a disk as datadisk with multiple partitions (different OSses) where each partition is accessable by its own OS ? - Should I use fdisk for this datadisk or for bootable disks only ? On one NS machine I could create partitions on the second disk, but on another NS machine it says 'Bogus information in BIOS' when running fdisk as 'fdisk /dev/rsd1h'. - If I should use fdisk, how can I garantee that the sizes of the fdisk-partitions correspond to the sizes specified in disktab. - How do the partitions mentioned in the /dev/sd... manual page relate to DOS-style partitions of fdisk? - I alwalys thought that the DOS-style partitiontable was in the first sector of the disk. How does this relate to the 'front-porch' of 320 sectors that NA doc#1533 is talking about ? I have tried to understand all the partition related stuff from several doc's in the NEXT website. Maybe you have the idea that I still don't have a good idea of it. Then you are probably right. Who can help! Not only with recipes, but above all to make me understand it. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:35:49 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g19ol$1q5$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Cc: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com Check out Olaf Muellers OlafAM, an answering machine/fax machine for NeXTStep. It's working as well for me as NXFax did, with the added bonus of voicemail support. I believe it's at both the Peak and Peanuts FTP sites. It may not support as many modems as NXFax, though. Regards, Alan (alanf@izzy.net) In <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Eric Chu wrote: > Hi all, > > Look out...newbie alert. > On the subject of faxing and NeXts <snip>
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:40:20 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> Greetings ethereal composite mind, I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. Thanks in advance, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Emacs.app for OS4.0/Intel? Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:40:47 GMT Organization: University of Houston Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g1dif$f5f@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> I am running OS4.0 on Intel and as documented before, I cannot compile the latest beta of Emacs.app in this version. (the developer list at Omni site has some helpful hints, but I do not have access to an NS3.3 machine to try the remedy suggested there). Can anybody make a compiled version of Emacs.app available that will run under OS4.0 Intel? Ideally, I would like it to have compiled with --prefix=LocalApps/Emacs.app so that all goodies are inside the Emacs.app folder. Of course I can live with the default path locations as well, where various stuff gets into different places under /usr/local etc. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Viewing multiple-page tiff files Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:23:31 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5g1ci3$6bu@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5fha77$e9f@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> J. P. McCann <jpmeia@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I've scanned a multple-page document using MetroScan, and saved it as > a .tiff file. ... > Any way to see all pages using OmniImage, Preview, Tailor, etc? Well, you could always tiffutil -extract <num> the corresponding subpage. Rgds, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: DON'T BUY WinDelete from IMSI Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:11 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> As uninstallers go, WinDelete is a suck-ass program which leads you to believe they are in the same league as programs like Remove-It and CleanSweep. But they're not. My advise to those who need a good uninstaller program is to buy Remove-It, CleanSweep, or Un-Installer. DON'T BUY WinDelete !!!!! I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense !
From: aseibert@cybernet-ag.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: tcl7.6 & NEXTSTEP -- anybody? Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:37:54 +0100 Organization: Cybernet AG Sender: aseibert@sol1 Message-ID: <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> Hi, all! Has anybody managed to compile tcl7.6 under NEXTSTEP without modifying the source code? It's a problem with mkfifo, and the only way I can get tclsh to compile & link is by commenting out a part of the code :-( Anybody? Thanx a lot in advance, Axel -- Axel Seibert | CYBERNET Internet | You are young only once but you Internet & | Dienstleistungen AG | can stay immature indefinitely. Netzwerke | aseibert@cybernet-ag.net |
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: create image file for bootable CD Date: 10 Mar 1997 18:03:38 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g1idq$scr@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does any know how to creat image file for a bootable CDROM? We have heard that dd can do such a thing, but what are the parameters? Thanks very much, khanh
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please Help! PPP not working after upgrade to 4.1! Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:44:07 -0800 Organization: Egg Head Billy Productions Message-ID: <33245811.79A2@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I'm sorry to bother the USENET community about this, but I've read the NeXT-PPP FAQ, searched NeXTAnswers and checkeded archive news, without sucess. I would subscribe to the ppp listserv, but I'm afraid that I won't be able to receive responses, unless they were sent to me directly. I'm hoping that someone out there can at least point me in the right direction. I had ppp/PPPMonitor running on my turbo slab (with NS 3.2), but lost it with the upgrade to 4.1. Since the upgrade, I completely re-installed ppp (I didn't know that it came with 4.1...). Can someone please look at my ppp log, and maybe tell me where I should be looking for errors? Is it in the installation of ppp (hostconfig, iftab, rc.local) or in my scripts? Thank you very much! - Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com Part of my ppp log (didn't want to send all of it): Mar 10 00:33:45 jehu chat[533]: netcom login: -- got it Mar 10 00:33:45 jehu pppd[453]: Serial connection established. Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: Using interface ppp0 Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cufa Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp> <auth upap>] Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (0) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (21c5d06f) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:46 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (REJ) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ. Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x1 <auth upap>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <asyncmap 0x0> <auth chap 05> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ASYNCMAP Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (0) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd AUTHTYPE Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (REJ) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd MAGICNUMBER Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (21c5d06f) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd PCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: rcvd ACCOMPRESSION Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: (ACK) Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: lcp_reqci: returning CONFREJ. Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x2 <auth chap 05>] Mar 10 00:33:47 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x21c5d06f> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:49 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1 <mru 1500> <magic 0x35fb63f9> <pcomp> <accomp>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 35 fb 63 f9] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1 <addr 0.0.0.0> <compress VJ 0f 01>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 <bsd v1 10>] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: rcvd [LCP TermReq id=0x4] Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: LCP terminated at peer's request Mar 10 00:33:50 jehu pppd[453]: sent [LCP TermAck id=0x4] Mar 10 00:33:53 jehu pppd[453]: Connection terminated. Mar 10 00:33:54 jehu pppd[453]: Exit.
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fonts? Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:02:27 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? Thanks Geof (BTW: I dont have TFM so unfortunately I cant RTFM!) -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:05:12 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1m18$3se$2@darla.visi.com> References: <5frj2j$i3l$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> David Overeem <overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> wrote: : Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running NS3.3dev) : and I would like to use the user database option. All is okay except that : NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the documentation calls for : in order to create the ".db" file. It is supposed to be a btree db file. : Anyone have an executable of this or perhaps knows how to do it a different : way? makemap comes with sendmail. from src, cd ../support. you may need to tweak. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:04:29 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : Okay, no more external_native.h problems, but many undefined symbols : during the linking of the kaffe executable, although the library : required was made and appears to have the function within. If you've : made kaffe 0.8.2 under NS3.3p1, please reveal how you did it, and what : you did to the config/Makefiles. Or, if you'd like to see my : compilation log, you're welcome to it. In the meantime, I'm going : back to FreeBSD, where I have something that works. :-) Man, I'm always replying to these posts. There's two ways to go about this: 1. add -L../packages/tjwasson.co.uk (or whatever) and -lkaffe_native, -lkaffe_net, and whatever other .a's you find in packages/ to the LIBS line for the kaffe executable, and relink 2. try to use Mach rld functions (problematic) the first one works, but you have to make sure you get the KAFFEFUNC macros and such right (ie, make sure the big table has pointers which match the names of the functions in the package libraries) I've been sidetracked, but I was playing with the m68k JIT and moving it to NS. If anyone knows a really sharp reference on inlining assembly with gcc, let me know. :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:08:27 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <E6Kpvu.907@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: : On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: : > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip : > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late : > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be : > free) : NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based : hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- : commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos go to 32, while turbos go to 128. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Faxing with Samba Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:22:21 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5g1n1d$a72@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> In article <E6ryxw.8nA@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > In article <5fk8s3$j6h$1@news.internetmci.com> paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) > writes: > > Hi, > > > > Is it possible to fax from a Windows 95/NT machine through SAMBA running > > on a NeXT with the HSD fax driver? > > > The Windows side would need to insert the lines below into the header of > the PostScript file and submit them into the print queue of the FAX modem. > The equivalent Unix command line would read like: > >>>lpr -P<name of the queue> <name of the file> > > %%NXFaxNotify: YES\ > %%NXFaxHires: YES\ > %%NXFaxTrim: YES\ > %%NXFaxNumber: XXX > > XXX is the phone number of the designated FAX machine to send to. This is from the mgetty-1.1.1/frontends/win+samba/README file: This windows fax solution is simple and elegant :) I got it from http://isis.et.uni-magdeburg.de/~horstf It works like this: The windows application prints to \\server\fax via the standard Windows-Networking services. On the "\\server" side, you must run the SAMBA daemon to handle windows file and print services. Samba then runs a small script that connects back to the PC, and makes a popup window come up and ask for the fax number to fax to. After that, "faxspool" is called, and the job is faxed away... (I didn't try this yet, so don't bug me if it doesn't work...!!!) gert Shouldn't be too hard to modify the script to insert the requisite Postscript. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:23:22 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: FileMerge not working Message-ID: <E6uJ8L.5L3@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:19:33 GMT I'm using NextStep 3.3 on a PentiumPro Intel machine. When trying to use FileMerge, I get 0 diffs between two files regardless of the number of true differences; it otherwise seems to work fine. When using the utility diff directly (rather than opendiff), I get the appropriate changes. It's been almost six months since I last used FileMerge, so I'm having difficulty guessing what I have done to break this program. I have tried it on a similarly configured PPro machine with NS 3.3 and there is no problem. Any ideas on what has happened or how to fix it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:01:15 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Hi, CDDesigner is a software that allows to write CDRs with NeXTstep. It is easy to use and you can build the CDs via drag n drop. CDDesigner is running on NeXT and Intel and supports writers by Yamaha, HP, Phillips, Kodak and Grundig. For more information meet: http://www.ip.cubenet.de/gehle A free beta is available at: ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Tools/cdrom/ Carsten Gehle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QuickCam On Next-Step References: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3324f9ae.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 11 Mar 97 06:20:30 GMT "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> wrote: >Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch ? >Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use it with >NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 Technically, yes. But I haven't heard that anyone has done it under NS. If you connect to the Quick cam site, you'll find info about developing for Quick cams and a link to an independent developer page that can lead you to many sources. Even some based in BSD. Of course, if your not a programmer, this doesn't help much. Hey, maybe some NS/OS programmer with time will take it on. As I recall there is a serial version for the Mac and a parallel for the Intel boxes. From what I've read the serial would be easier to develop for. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FileMerge not working Date: 11 Mar 1997 06:38:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2ul0$j9o@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <E6uJ8L.5L3@midway.uchicago.edu> lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) wrote: > It's been almost six months since I last used FileMerge, so I'm > having difficulty guessing what I have done to break this program. I believe that FileMerge uses the GNU utilities in /usr/gnu/bin. If these have been removed or even changed, then FileMerge might not work as expected. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 11 Mar 1997 08:01:40 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5g33h4$ngk@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> In-Reply-To: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> Hello Allen: I resell Cub X Windows for Intuitive... feel free to drop me an email at bhi1@ix.netcom.com or phone 303-393-6419 , 303 320 0949 Fax Best regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver, CO 80220 On 03/10/97, alanf@izzy.net wrote: >Greetings ethereal composite mind, > >I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. >I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two >commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware >package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. > >Thanks in advance, >Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) > > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 11:48:07 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF > ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > And run (in a shell) buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts to make the fonts visible. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: tcl7.6 & NEXTSTEP -- anybody? Date: 10 Mar 97 19:35:00 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar10193500@howard.one.net> References: <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> In-reply-to: aseibert@cybernet-ag.net's message of 10 Mar 1997 17:37:54 +0100 In article <x7d8t7wvml.fsf@sol1> aseibert@cybernet-ag.net writes: Has anybody managed to compile tcl7.6 under NEXTSTEP without modifying the source code? It's a problem with mkfifo, and the only way I can get tclsh to compile & link is by commenting out a part of the code :-( I don't know if this is what you want, but my home page has a couple links to NeXTSTEP-aware Tcl7.6 source code, and the resulting binaries. I don't recall how I handled the particular problem you mentioned, though. [I mean, do you need mkfifo, or are you just concerned something else might?] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: QuickCam On Next-Step Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:45:23 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2h03$obk@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc2d3e$6f79b240$26564ec2@vanessa> "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> writes: > Is it possible to do some Video Conference on Next-Step for MAch? > Actually I'm using a Quick cam with Win95, I would like to use > it with NS 3.3 or Open step 4.1 My guess is that there is nothing currently written to help you out for NeXTSTEP 3.3 or 4.1. I imagine we'll be seeing support for this in future releases, though! -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: carimati@uli.it (carimati) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I search a program, dll library or OCX for drawing equation Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:05:14 GMT Organization: I.NET - Customers News Server Message-ID: <33248d2c.9718550@news.inet.it> I search a program, dll library or OCX for drawing equation in a Windows device context from a string like "A^3+sqtr(3-sqrt(x))". Please reply via e-mail. Thanks! Shin
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 3.3/intel install problem Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:38:16 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5g45a8$nf8$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> greetings etherial composite mind, I've got an Adaptec 2940W... after the drivers are loaded (I've downloaded the version 3.37 Adaptec driver) I get: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ fdisk: Bogus disk information in BIOS. You probably need to check your SCSI or IDE card setup to make sure the BIOS is enabled. If the BIOS is disabled, NEXTSTEP will be unable to get proper disk information. (above message duplicated) /private/etc/rc.cdrom: test: argument expected CDROM boot procedure complete Please wait until its safe to turn off computer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I've got a Pentium 133, Triton chipset MB, AMIBIOS 10/10/94 PSI437 V1.7 1996-02-08. I'm using a venerable Seagate ST1480N on SCSI ID #1, a Matshita CD on SCSI ID#4. Previously I had a Conner drive on SCSI ID #0, with the same results. I really, really want to get NEXTSTEP loaded, but I've hit the wall here. I just don't know what else to try. I have no problem loading and running MS-Windows on the same hardware. Any help is vastly appreciated; please cc: email. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net)
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anti-Microsoft alliance Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:12:31 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5g43pv$gj1@nps.navy.mil> Page B-8 of today's Wall Street Journal announced an alliance among Netscape, Oracle, Sun, and IBM intended to head off Microsoft's march to internet dominance. The article mentions that the four will support two object technologies from Object Management Group, but doesn't give details. Any ideas on what these are, or how Openstep will be affected? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: AdageUS <ignite3@silcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Great Internet Software Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 09:34:34 -0800 Organization: AdageUS Message-ID: <332597AA.4177@silcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AdageUS visit our website at: http://www.adageus.com Internet applications for site analysis, site testing, and database interconnection. Services for web and web site design, management, link configuration control, database integration and custom applications.
From: rdingman@cc.mcafee.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:21:42 GMT Organization: McAfee Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <5g44b6$2t2@news.mcafee.com> References: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> To install NS3.3(everything in English) it takes about 250MB. ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Fonts? Message-ID: <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 15:50:46 GMT References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In comp.sys.next.software Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF > > ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > > > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the > > > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > > > Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > > /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > > > > And run (in a shell) > > buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > to make the fonts visible. <RANT> Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put his custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why they don't show up in Edit? I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without a simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the proper location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a double-click and a confirm dialog. The application to do this would be TRIVIAL to write. In fact, FontConverter.app is a nice third-party utility which in addition to its prime purpose (ie. converting fonts from other platforms into a format that NeXT can use) does this. I'd bet the installation part took the guy less than an hour to code. One could knock off a simple freeware application to accomplish this, but then Joe User would have to go out on the Net and find the thing. IT SHOULD JUST BE PART OF THE SHIPPED OPERATING SYSTEM! </RANT> I feel much better now. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 18:38:31 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g48r7$mm$3@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Cc: allan@ali.bc.ca In <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Allan Noordvyk wrote: > <RANT> > > Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? > Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? > What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put his > custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why they > don't show up in Edit? > > I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without a > simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the proper > location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a double-click > and a confirm dialog. > > The application to do this would be TRIVIAL to write. In fact, > FontConverter.app is a nice third-party utility which in addition > to its prime purpose (ie. converting fonts from other platforms into > a format that NeXT can use) does this. I'd bet the installation > part took the guy less than an hour to code. > > One could knock off a simple freeware application to accomplish > this, but then Joe User would have to go out on the Net and find > the thing. IT SHOULD JUST BE PART OF THE SHIPPED > OPERATING SYSTEM! > > </RANT> > > I feel much better now. > I am the guy who wrote FontConvert.app, and you are right, it was about half an hour work as I remember (the buildafmdir stuff, testing took a bit longer...). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: luukw@telebyte.nl (Nimrod) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: IPX-emulator Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 19:12:24 GMT Organization: Telebyte Message-ID: <5g4ati$oeu@rubens.telebyte.nl> Does anyone now a program which I can emulate an IPX-network with, so I can play multiplayergames which require an IPX-network with my null-modem cable? Please respond to luukw@telebyte.nl Thanks in advance, Luuk Willems
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Date: 11 Mar 1997 20:17:24 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Franz Allegro Common Lisp was bundled with NS 1, but unbundled from NS 2. However, those who had licensed NS 1 were licensed to use new versions of ACL, Sybase SQL Server, and Mathematica under NS 2. NeXT shipped these new versions to NS 1 licensees. For Mathematica, the right to use the new version was shipped, but the software had to be obtained from Wolfram. Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD-ROM burn of NeXT media and RockRidge Necessary? Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:43:57 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5g4jmt$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <331C2CE6.3F06@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> Cc: GehleSoftware@t-online.de In <5fkftr$dvt@news00.btx.dtag.de> Carsten Gehle wrote: > CDDesigner is running on NeXT and Intel and supports writers by > Yamaha, HP, Phillips, Kodak and Grundig. > > Carsten Gehle > the docs for CDDesigner say that only the adaptec SCSI boards (if I remember right) are supported on intel, any plans for supporting the buslogic board in my object.station? -Rick
From: sanguish@digifix.digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:12:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In-Reply-To: <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> On 03/11/97, Frank M. Siegert wrote: >In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by GEOF >> ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. >> > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in the >> > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? >> >> Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the >> /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. >> > >And run (in a shell) > >buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > >to make the fonts visible. > I don't think you need to do this anymore. I'm pretty sure that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to 'do the right thing'.... -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:50:33 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5g4njp$al9@shelob.afs.com> References: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish writes > I don't think you need to [run buildafmdir] anymore. I'm pretty > sure that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to > 'do the right thing'.... That's right. The next time you launch an app and trigger the font panel, you will get a message that says something like 'Integrating new font information, please wait." It's fully automatic. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:42:26 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> In-Reply-To: <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> On 03/10/97, David Young wrote: >There's two ways to go about this: >1. add -L../packages/tjwasson.co.uk (or whatever) and -lkaffe_native, > -lkaffe_net, and whatever other .a's you find in packages/ to the > LIBS line for the kaffe executable, and relink >2. try to use Mach rld functions (problematic) So guys anyone of you succeed in making kaffe to use shared libraries under Mach? Any rumors when and whould it be really supported? Well, 0.8.2 look like a quick hack to me. Any ideas when we could expect new version? Regards, Aleksey
From: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> Control: cancel <33244a26.8290428@news.interpath.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 01:00:01 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <3326000e.8679324@news.interpath.net> I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense !
From: Huiyang Yang <yang@focus.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: want to read mail in Chinese and Japanese Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:46:19 -0800 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3325B68B.41C6@focus.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using NeXT Electronic Mail Reader to read e-mail. Is it possible to read the mails in Chinese (GB or Big5) or Japanese? and how? Thanks Huiyang
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 12 Mar 1997 03:58:32 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: : >Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos : >go to 32, while turbos go to 128. : Umm, this is definitly NOT correct. I'll offer proof: Part of it is. At least, the part about no boxes which max at 64M. Were I a lawyer, I'd say that I meant "turbo motherboard" and not CPU. ;) : Processor speed: 25 MHz : System type: 4 : Board revision: 0xf ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Aha. : Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. So, my turbo ADB cube has the same board revision as your mono slab? That's pretty weird. Processor speed: 33 MHz System type: 8 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. : I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. : This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... : The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. This isn't the case with most of the non-turbo machines I've encountered, though, and I'd guess with a majority of the nonturbo systems out there. : One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a : motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even : an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. I'm not going to hold : my breath, and my 040 hw serves well for most things still today, : but one can allways dream ;) That'd be nice. I had kicked around the idea of stuffing my old P60 logic board in a dead cube case, but the whole thing seemed too blasphemous. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 11 Mar 1997 16:35:44 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs---------@gravity.science.gmu.edu (remove dashs to reply) Message-ID: <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <3320649D.3DACD31A@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com>, David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: >mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: >: On 03/06/97, mike allison wrote: >: > You're incorrect. I have a '92 vintage NeXTStation with a 040mhz chip >: > and room for 64MB of memory. This is a common (as I understand) late >: > version. I can get one for you if you like....(No, Anthony, it won't be >: > free) > >: NeXT only ever officially released 25 and 33MHz versions of their 040-based >: hardware... I wonder if that gives a hint? Maybe you have an 68040 chip -- >: commonly referred to as an 040 -- running at 33MHz..? > >Also, NeXT didn't make any slabs which max out at 64MB AFAIK. Non-turbos >go to 32, while turbos go to 128. Umm, this is definitly NOT correct. I'll offer proof: Mach kernel version: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon May 22 17:56:06 PDT 1995; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.12.obj~11/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K Kernel configured for a single processor only. 1 processor is physically available. Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) Processor speed: 25 MHz Processor active: 0 System type: 4 Board revision: 0xf Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. Default processor set: 84 tasks, 131 threads, 1 processors Load average: 0.15, Mach factor: 0.97 I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. From what I understand there are dependancies related to what BIOS you've got as far as how much ram you can use, but I've heard so much conflicting information over the years that I'm not truely sure of what the deal is. CPU wise, I am only aware of 040 25's, 33's, and 88K's coming out of NeXT. I heard a pretty serious rumor that when NeXT spun off hardware and it became Firepower, that they had the OS running on PPC boxes, but that it was never released or anything like that. One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. I'm not going to hold my breath, and my 040 hw serves well for most things still today, but one can allways dream ;) Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Play Mystic: mystic.magik.net 3000
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 00:04:02 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> References: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) wrote: > Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an > upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as > a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? Seems to be a full release of Version 3.1. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I need software support help in DC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:38:32 -0500 Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Message-ID: <3326B1D8.6D96@mail.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no NeXT skills. I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to fix a few bugs that have accumulated: I can connect to Novell server, but I can't get printer connectivity. My memory seems to run out and crash everything. I need to have someone help me set up my modem. If its possible, I'd like to be able to connect to an NT server and to determine if I could run NeXT and Windows 95 from the same machine. If you or someone you know could help, please let me know what your hourly rate would be. Thanks and regards, Don McKinnon 202 225 2770
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: X-windows "emulator" Date: 12 Mar 1997 12:29:05 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5g67ih$nqj$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5g1a14$1q5$2@inet-prime.comshare.com> alanf@izzy.net wrote: >I'm looking for an X package for my NeXTStation. >I checked Stepwise and didn't find anything... There used to be two >commercial packages, but I can't find references to either. The shareware >package never worked on my machine for some unknown reason. I answered on nearly the same question exactly one week ago: look for <5fjvp4$obk$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> with the subject "Re: How does one display X-Windows on a NeXT?" Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Printer software modification Date: 12 Mar 1997 12:16:10 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5g66qa$lcc$3@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <schumach-0603972256170001@129.194.16.71> schumach@uni2a.unige.ch (Jorg Schumacher) wrote: >I read some time ago on this panel about a software modification that >allows to start up the black printer on black hardware only at the time >you actually need it -- instead of having it on at the beginning of every >session. Did anybody keep the relevant posting? You should try this one. It works perfectly for me. -=-=- /* * nppowerd.c rjesse 19 oct 92 * * This daemon turns off a NeXT 400 dpi printer (/dev/np0) * that has been idle for more than "interval" minutes. * * Usage: nppowerd [interval minutes] */ #define INTERVAL (60*60) /* 60 minute default */ #include <stdio.h> #include <bsd/sys/types.h> #include <mach/boolean.h> #include <bsd/sys/ioctl.h> #include <bsd/sys/file.h> #include <bsd/sys/stat.h> #include <bsd/dev/m68k/npio.h> char printer[] = "/dev/np0"; time_t pmtime() { struct stat pstat; if (stat(printer, &pstat) < 0) { fputs("nppowerd: ", stderr); perror(printer); exit(1); } return pstat.st_mtime; } turnpoff() { struct npop op; register pfd; extern errno; errno = 0; if ((pfd=open(printer, O_WRONLY, 0)) < 0) return errno; op.np_op = NPSETPOWER; op.np_power = 0; ioctl(pfd, NPIOCPOP, &op); close(pfd); return errno; } main(ac, av) int ac; char **av; { time_t offtime, mtime, idle; register interval = INTERVAL; if (ac > 2) { fputs("Usage: nppowerd [minutes]\n", stderr); return 1; } switch (fork()) { default: return 0; case -1: return 1; case 0: ; /* child */ } if (ac > 1) interval = atoi(av[1]) * 60; if (interval<60 || interval>(24*60*60) ) interval = INTERVAL; /* * it seems (see NP(4)) to be impossible to test whether the * printer is on or off without first turning it on - opening * the device, even without O_WRONLY, turns it on. so we assume * that upon nppowerd invocation (probably from /etc/rc) that * the printer is on (it gets turned on during the boot sequence). */ offtime = 0; mtime = pmtime(); while (1) { if (mtime != offtime) { /* there has been some printer activity */ while ((idle = time() - mtime) < interval) { sleep(interval-idle+1); mtime = pmtime(); } if (turnpoff() == 0) offtime = mtime = pmtime(); } sleep(interval); mtime = pmtime(); } NOTREACHED } ----- Compile this and call it from rc.local with a few seconds of delay (the printer demons must be up and running). The following works fine for me. ----- # (echo -n 'local daemons:') >/dev/console # # Run your own commands here # # (echo '.') >/dev/console domainname nidat.sub.org su news -c '/usr/lib/newsbin/newsboot' sleep 10; /usr/local/etc/nppowerd 30 /usr/local/etc/setmd -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | NeXTmail welcome !!! # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 -=-=- -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fonts? Date: 12 Mar 1997 11:58:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5g65p6$j3r@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5g1ls3$1rgq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5g3gpn$mm6$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <E6vyoM.n0H@gateway.ali.bc.ca> allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) wrote: > In comp.sys.next.software Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > And run (in a shell) > > > > buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > > > to make the fonts visible. > > <RANT> > > Am I the only who is always extremely annoyed by this extra step? > Its even worse when you have to explain this to Joe "Terminal? > What's That?" User who heroically figured out that he should put > his custom fonts in ~/Library/Fonts but then wants to know why > they don't show up in Edit? > > I still can't believe that NeXT has been going so long without > a simple FontManager.app which will install the new font in the > proper location and rebuild the AFM directory with just a > double-click and a confirm dialog. Back when you could buy fonts for NeXTSTEP, you could get them from Adobe. With them you got a program that did the building for you, as I remember it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6xtGu.o9L@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 15:53:18 GMT References: <3319154F.198A16EC@konnections.com> <5fv0ar$pfq@bignews.shef.ac.uk> <5g1m7b$3se$3@darla.visi.com> <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g41l0$oku@portal.gmu.edu>, Tim <tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu> wrote: >Mach kernel version: > NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon May 22 17:56:06 PDT 1995; root(rcbuilder):mk-171.12.obj~11/RC_m68k/RELEASE_M68K > >Kernel configured for a single processor only. >1 processor is physically available. >Processor type: MC680x0 (68040) >Processor speed: 25 MHz ... >I can cram more ram in it if I wanted to as far as I know. >This board is a "turbo style" board, with a non-turbo CPU in it... >The ram I have in it is 2 32M parity simms. > Yeah, there are a bunch of these "Turboid" machines around. Except for the speed they work exactly like Turbo machines (ADB suppoer and all, assuming you have the correct ROM version). >From what I understand there are dependancies related to what BIOS >you've got as far as how much ram you can use, but I've heard so >much conflicting information over the years that I'm not truely >sure of what the deal is. > Ack--I hate the term BIOS used with NeXT hardware. It's not a BIOS--it doesn't help the OS do much of anything. It gives you the console program and lets you boot, and that's about it. Anyway, I'm not sure about the relation between ROM version and maximum RAM. This is the first I've heard of it, actually. >CPU wise, I am only aware of 040 25's, 33's, and 88K's coming out >of NeXT. Well, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say that the 88Ks "came out" of NeXT. Maybe in someone's knapsack. ;) Also, don't forget the i860 on the NeXTdimension. >I heard a pretty serious rumor that when NeXT spun off >hardware and it became Firepower, that they had the OS running >on PPC boxes, but that it was never released or anything like that. > There are several NeXT people who have said that they saw it running. >One thing I'd _love_ to see at some point hardware wise was a >motherboard running a really-fast PPC or Sparc CPU, (or hell, even >an Intel) that would "drop in" black cases. That would be pretty nifty, yeah. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: student <student@law.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wanted: IPX-emulator Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:04:57 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois College of Law Message-ID: <33270C69.60A8@law.uiuc.edu> References: <5g4ati$oeu@rubens.telebyte.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nimrod wrote: > > Does anyone now a program which I can emulate an IPX-network with, so > I can play multiplayergames which require an IPX-network with my > null-modem cable? > > Please respond to luukw@telebyte.nl > > Thanks in advance, > > Luuk Willems I know of two that work under Linux and should compile under any unix based os. The first is still in alpha I believe and is called LinWare. Try: sunsite at /pub/system/network/daemons/lwared-0.95.tar.gz The other is called the mars netware emulator. I have gotten it to work under Linux also, and should compile under NeXT. Look at the Linux ipx howto for an address. This one is farther along in the development than LinWare and probably is a better choice. If you need help finding this, email me. hope this helps Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
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From: mpaque@next.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LINUX on M68k Box Date: 12 Mar 1997 22:27:05 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5g7ajp$bpb@news.next.com> References: <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> In article <5g59l8$6t2$1@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> writes: > : Processor speed: 25 MHz > : System type: 4 > : Board revision: 0xf > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Aha. > > : Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. > > So, my turbo ADB cube has the same board revision as your mono slab? > That's pretty weird. > > Processor speed: 33 MHz > System type: 8 > Board revision: 0xf > Primary memory available: 64.00 megabytes. Board revisions and system type have to be taken together to identify a particular board. Revisions apply to a specific system type. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, and they don't speak for me. "May you live in interesting times." - Old Chinese curse
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 17:07:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do The Near-Impossible 03/12/97 San Francisco Examiner In an office at Apple Computer Inc., two doors down from the room reserved for Steve Jobs, Avie Tevanian talked about what might be the most challenging technical task in Silicon Valley: building a new operating system for the Macintosh. The 35-year-old programmer spoke to The Examiner last week, as Apple was gearing up to announce the layoffs of perhaps 40 percent of its 13,500-person workforce. "My job is to separate what is interesting, important and valuable from what is interesting and cool but not valuable," said Tevanian, who once turned down Bill Gates to go to work for Jobs. And in Apple's current plight, nothing would be more valuable than if Tevanian could ramrod the creation of a new Mac operating system. Simply put, an operating system (OS) controls the basic functions of a computer. When the OS works, users don't know it's there. But when the OS gets flaky, using a computer can be exercise in aggravation. At the core of Apple's myriad woes is the fact that after 13 years, the Mac OS doesn't seem much better than its chief competitor, the Windows software from Microsoft Corp. To improve the Mac OS relative to Windows, Apple began several years ago to develop a new OS called Copland. Last year, however, Apple Chairman Gil Amelio decided Copland, though cool and interesting, wasn't valuable. So he canceled the project and bought an operating system from Next Inc. Next, based in Redwood City, was the company Steve Jobs founded in 1985, after he was eased out of Apple, which he had co-founded a decade earlier. Now, the indomitable Jobs - whose current credits include creating movies like "Toy Story" at Pixar Inc. - spends a day or so each week as Amelio's "special advisor" at Apple. And Tevanian, who worked for Jobs and used to manage 100 engineers at Next, now directs 10 times that number at Apple. In a 50-minute interview last week, Tevanian displayed the diplomatic skills he will need to juggle several equally critical tasks. In the first place, he must make sure Apple continues improving the current Mac OS. "People may be underestimating the importance of the Mac OS," Tevanian said. "The Mac OS is solving the problems customers have today." At the same time, Tevanian must meld Apple's technology with Next's software to create a new operating system called Rhapsody that will leapfrog past Windows. But even if Tevanian can pull off that engineering feat, by motivating Apple's talented but demoralized ranks, he must manage one more miracle - persuading independent software vendors to create programs that take advantage of the Rhapsody OS that is due out next year. Just how hard that will be was evident after talking with John Warnock, chief executive of Adobe Systems Corp. Adobe sells the software that is the heart and soul of the Mac, programs like Photoshop and Illustrator that are used by graphic artists everywhere. Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new and more powerful Mac programs. But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would have to rewrite their programs from scratch. Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get stuck in one or the other. "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our part." Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. "Apple had a problem of trying to provide that," Howard said. But Warnock said "these operating systems are full of compromises; we're not asking them to do anything impossible." Warnock's comments only serve to illustrate the challenges Tevanian will face in trying to balance competing demands from Apple's software allies, customers, engineers and other constituencies. And as he tries to navigate the reefs and shoals of his new position, Tevanian will have to steer clear of one other storm, the issue of his loyalties. On the organizational chart, he is a vice president at Apple, answerable to Amelio. But in temperament and office geography, he seems much closer to Jobs. "I work for Gil Amelio, and Gil is my boss," Tevanian said in answer to a question. "If there is some disagreement, his word prevails. "That having been said, I have a very long relationship with Steve," he added. "We often have the same ideas at the same time." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Using zsh with Terminal Service - New Shell Here Date: 13 Mar 1997 05:47:45 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5g84e1$se5@news.digifix.com> I've switched from tcsh to zsh, and finally worked out my Terminal Services problems, and now I'm running into one small problem... New Shell Here does this to set the current directory to the selection set cdto = %s; if (-f $cdto) set cdto = $cdto:h; cd $cdto; clear Does anyone have a fix for this that works with zsh? Thanks Scott -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Message-ID: <1997Mar11.185917.456@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: tim@apple.com Organization: Disorganization References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:59:17 GMT In <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> Tim Olson wrote: > I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be > broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing It seems that NeXT-Make recently has some problems with free/pd software from the net. I always use GNU-make in this case - and it often helps. But I don't know if kaffe Makefiles would work with GNU make.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112355.SAA10455@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:55:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Emacs.app for OS4.0/Intel? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - Responding To: rao@supermod.egr.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 16:40:47 GMT Message-ID: 97dc436da2ddcd692eb5cc160e7e6ca2 - > I am running OS4.0 on Intel and as documented before, I cannot > compile the latest beta of Emacs.app in this version. (the > developer list at Omni site has some helpful hints, but > I do not have access to an NS3.3 machine to try the > remedy suggested there). If no one has answered yet, you can find the new Emacs-page linked to my NeXT page under the 'other sites' page from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Check under 'Users' pages' I believe.... Someone has taken this over since Carl Edman left the NeXTRealm. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:04:57 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g8cf9$qeb$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5fvugd$gni@cerberus.ibmoto.com> <1997Mar11.185917.456@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: : > I found that the Makefile for kaffe/kaffe subdirectory seems to be : > broken (at least under NeXTSTEP). I was able to build it by changing : It seems that NeXT-Make recently has some problems with free/pd software from : the net. I always use GNU-make in this case - and it often helps. But I don't : know if kaffe Makefiles would work with GNU make. Actually, yes and no. You need gmake to compile kaffe; but it's not NeXT make's fault that the 0.8.2 makefiles are a little fuzzy. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: "S.FAHIM" <samir@interpac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeuroSolutions Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:33:22 GMT Organization: Interpac Message-ID: <01bc2f88$8d0257d0$26564ec2@vanessa> References: <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov> Yes, I'm looking for a copy of it too ! samir@interpac.be Operator <chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu> wrote in article <5fq6dv$qgp@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov>... > > The developer of this incredible neural network software no longer supports the > original NeXT version. I am looking to buy an existing license, or trade for > one from software that I own. > > Interested parties, please e-mail. > > Thanks in advance -- > > CB > >
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From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: texinfo Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:58:18 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5g8mka$99u@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Has anybody else had difficulties in running ./configure with texinfo-3.9 ... checking whether setvbuf arguments are reversed... configure: error: can not run test program while cross compiling or is aware of NeXT binaries to run info (forget about Emacs)? Thanks, Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112357.SAA10472@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:57:11 -0500 Subject: Re: DON'T BUY WinDelete from IMSI Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - Responding To: sandmn@interpath.com (Dan) Original Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 17:52:11 GMT Message-ID: 38ed521843f0ff8accf74f5d2f7646c4 - > I have seen the truth, and it makes no sense ! Neither does posting this to a newsgroup about NeXTStep (which doesn't need any such silly thing as an uninstaller for most packages) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703120011.TAA10579@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:11:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Fonts? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - Responding To: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Original Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:02:27 GMT Message-ID: cf3cd457d79ae39b13e87c4f389efe18 - > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it in > the /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > > Thanks > > Geof > (BTW: I dont have TFM so unfortunately I cant RTFM!) TFM is linked to my web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) I can't remember the process exactly (which is the other good reason for having an FAQ) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703120003.TAA10518@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 19:03:22 -0500 Subject: Re: SENDMAIL + user database + NeXT Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - Responding To: overeem.1@postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Overeem) Original Date: 8 Mar 1997 11:37:55 GMT Message-ID: 6169069894cd3a5b54a02eb324aaa112 - > Hello folks. I just installed sendmail 8.8.5 on my NeXT (running > NS3.3dev) and I would like to use the user database option. All is > okay except that NeXT does not have the "makemap" utility that the > documentation calls for in order to create the ".db" file. It is > supposed to be a btree db file. Anyone have an executable of this > or perhaps knows how to do it a different way? There are an excellent set of instructions for sendmail & NeXT which are linked to my web page (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) under 'other sites' (check under 'Users'). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: bjohnson@verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 04:21:11 GMT Organization: Verity, Inc. Message-ID: <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> References: <5fr87a$l98$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5g1lvt$3se$1@darla.visi.com> <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> Cc: zander@conextions.com In <5g4ql2$6m6@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov wrote: > So guys anyone of you succeed in making kaffe to use shared libraries > under Mach? Any rumors when and whould it be really supported? I have always had great difficulty in getting kaffe to compile properly under NS3.3.P1. For starters, I do the following: a) hack config-io.h to get dirent.h back (it says "This may nolonger be necessary") b) hack config.h to HAVE_DIRENT_H c) patch the Makefiles to add -Wall to CFLAGS (there are LOTS of warnings) d) rename stubs like FileOutputStreamStub.c to StubFileOutputStream.c so libtool doesn't compain about object file name collisions. (I guess it only stores first 16 characters in module name). e) Hack the makefiles to use libtool rather than ar (so maybe make FAT binaries) Without the dirent hacks, it doesn't compile AT ALL. The other mods are trying to clean up the build process. It doesn't matter though... cause kaffe always drops core immediately when I run it. Several revisions ago it would run under GDB (but not standalone), but now it crashes in gdb as well, in method dispatching code. When I turned off JIT, it seemed to work again (sort of...). -- Brett M. Johnson Verity Inc. Software Author 894 Ross Drive bjohnson@verity.com Sunnyvale, CA 94089
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NXFax!!! Date: 13 Mar 1997 10:21:28 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I am an old user of NXFax who had forogtten my password to unlock NXFax. Anyway where I can contact the publishers or if someone is kind enough to help me with this? Michael Chan
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:10:11 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> wrote: > I am an old user of NXFax who had forogtten my password to unlock > NXFax. Anyway where I can contact the publishers or if someone > is kind enough to help me with this? email them at nxfax@banw.com -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file stuck in NextTrash Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:16:49 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5g8uo1$bh0@eve.enteract.com> I was deleting some files and somehow the <root> directory from one of my .NextTrash directories got stuck in the recycler (e.g. /HD-3/.NextTrash/root ). I don't know how it ended up in there, but now I'm stuck because it can't be deleted and cannot be moved out of the recycler. And of course now I get an alert every time I empty the recycler telling me that this directory cannot be read... I tried su root, but no go. Any explanations and/or suggestions would be appreciated. thanks. please cc <kpc@enteract.com> -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: The continuing saga of kaffe (0.8.2) Date: 13 Mar 1997 13:57:46 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5g914q$b4j@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> In article <5g7vbn$if0@nuclear.verity.com> bjohnson@verity.com (Brett M. Johnson) writes: > I have always had great difficulty in getting kaffe to compile properly > under NS3.3.P1. > For starters, I do the following: > a) hack config-io.h to get dirent.h back (it says "This may nolonger be > necessary") > b) hack config.h to HAVE_DIRENT_H Wrong. I've built kaffe MANY times, going back to the 0.6 days, and never had to do that. I DID, however, sometimes have to do set this in config.h /* Do we have sys/dir.h */ #define HAVE_SYS_DIR_H 1 so that it would include sys/dir.h. > d) rename stubs like FileOutputStreamStub.c to StubFileOutputStream.c so > libtool doesn't compain about object file name collisions. (I guess it only > stores first 16 characters in module name). No biggie. It's a warning only and doesn't hamper performance or cause problems. > e) Hack the makefiles to use libtool rather than ar (so maybe make FAT > binaries) Doesn't matter. kaffe doesn't support FAT builds anyway. Find my packages for kaffe binaries (upto v0.8 to date) at peak. I'm working on 0.8.2 right now. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:57:23 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Cc: warnock@adobe.com In <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do > The Near-Impossible > 03/12/97 > San Francisco Examiner > > Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for > Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two > separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. > > At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run > current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. > The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new > and more powerful Mac programs. > > But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would > have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop > can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get > stuck in one or the other. > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." > > Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek > magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project > had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from > Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. Period. If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a similar public statement. Don't let the whiners make terrorist threats against the future of the platform. (I don't know if warnock@adobe.com works, but I'm cc'ing this there) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Allegro Common Lisp info needed Message-ID: <1997Mar12.215731.618@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com Organization: Disorganization References: <5g4ekk$rrd@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 21:57:31 GMT In <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001203970004020001@news.tiac.net> James B. Frazer wrote: > > Was the NS 2.0 ACL version sent by NeXT a full release or merely an > > upgrade of the NS 1 ACL? In other words, can the NS 2.0 ACL be installed as > > a full release or must NS 1 ACL already exist so that it can be upgraded? > > Seems to be a full release of Version 3.1. > If you have a Linux box , you can get the latest Allegro CL (4.3) for Linux for *free* from Franz Inc. Just visit their homepage and fill out the form, they'll send you a CD. Great service in my opinion.
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 15:00:05 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and > that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Exactly. > overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. > If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. > Period. Exactly. > If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > similar public statement. Where? Maury
From: webboy@webname.com (David) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 13:41:03 -0700 Organization: Webboy Productions Distribution: world Message-ID: <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > > Exactly. > >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. >> Period. > > Exactly. > >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a >> similar public statement. > > Where? > >Maury There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge market in this area over to them. -- webboy@webname.com
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: No more free WebObjects? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:10:04 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: Did NeXT stop offering the free version of WebObjects? Sigh... All I see is how to order WebObjects Pro and Enterprise. Thanks. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au (Graeme Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:16:10 GMT Organization: Uni of Qld Message-ID: <33286de6.35385513@news.uq.edu.au> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500, Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: >Jean Paul Ladue wrote: >> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next >> website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also >> what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. > >The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' >you want is the Intel version of that. > >-- >Stefano Pagiola >850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA >All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect >those of my employer If you want to buy OpenStep for Mach, Intel see: http://www.optimal-object.com/ They sell all versions of OpenStep to Corporations and Individuals Graeme! http://www.uq.edu.au/~bcggriff/Graeme.html
From: djunt@mtu.edu (Derek Juntunen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:30:20 -0500 Organization: Michigan Technological University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9rlc$9la@youth.yth> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David (webboy@webname.com) wrote: : In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com : (Maury Markowitz) wrote: : : >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: : > : >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and : >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. : > : > Exactly. : > : >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. : >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on : Rhapsody. : >> Period. : > : > Exactly. : > : >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a : >> similar public statement. : > : > Where? : > : >Maury : : : There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and : make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge : market in this area over to them. Warnock is almost certainly just bluffing. He would be a fool to not develop for the Yellow Box. Derek
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font on OS/NT Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 16:20:26 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <33286F9A.6C3D@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hi All: I have an extensive collection of fonts on my old NeXTStation Color 25MHz. Can I use them as is with my OPENSTEP Enterprise on NT 4.0? If so, how? Please reply by e-mail to: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu Many Thanks. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 21:23:57 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> Cc: webboy@webname.com In <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David wrote: > In article <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com > (Maury Markowitz) wrote: > > >In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > > > >> My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and > >> that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > > > > Exactly. > > > >> overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. > >> If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on > Rhapsody. > >> Period. > > > > Exactly. > > > >> If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > >> similar public statement. > > > > Where? > > > >Maury > > > There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and > make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge > market in this area over to them. > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take a look." If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 21:20:40 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9r38$5kh$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Cc: maury@softarc.com In <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> Maury Markowitz wrote: > In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: > > If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a > > similar public statement. > > Where? > > Maury > Well, I meant to the newsgroups I had posted this to :-) I would also cc it to warnock@adobe.com (since that didn't bounce when I cc'ed it to him, I assume that at least someone reads that, and will let him know if a huge number of people start making noises about this). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:29:43 GMT Organization: mother.com Internet Services Message-ID: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." These comments have concerned me for two reasons. First, many vendors with large projects which have evolved over time might balk to a whole new set of APIs. In many instances, the original developers may be long gone. Second, I thought Adobe would be one of the biggest supporters of Rhapsody. After all, Apple is endorsing Adobe's Display Postscript. I even seem to recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. I think Apple should be concerned about and address these issues. How they address this is another story, but I hope they do. There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow box[1][2]. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. Todd [1] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/rhapsody.html [2] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/management.html
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:00:32 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1303971700320001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> In article <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com>, webboy@webname.com (David) wrote: > There's always Live Picture and I'm sure other companies will step in and > make Rhaposody graphics apps should Adobe be so stupid to hand it's huge > market in this area over to them. Yeah, PhotoShop is going to run as-is anyway, most likely at OK speed too. If people need to, they'll use it, all the while switching back more and more to the newer apps. Maury
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:25:33 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> Hi all, I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a bit too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to want to load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in Netsurfer2.0 works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load pages. Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:52:55 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> wrote: > I even seem to > recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. Yeah. Some obsure little thing called "Illustrator". Perhaps you've heard of it? :-) In fact, given that they DID have Illustrator running on NEXTSTEP in the past, I think an OPENSTEP port should be pretty darned easy for them. The problem is that, apparently, there are a few lazy whiners over there at Adobe. I guess we need to ask Scott Byer to flay them into shape... :-) > I think Apple should be concerned about and > address these issues. How they address this is another > story, but I hope they do. They need to stay their course. If Adobe wants to sink themselves, let them. There are other apps out there to pick up the slack. If Altsys revives Virtuoso, then between TIFFany and Virtuoso Adobe could and would lose a lot of marketshare. It is more their loss than ours, frankly. Most of their other products exist in some form for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP already, too, so I think Adobe will be in for a rude awakening if they stick to Warnock's short-sighted remarks. > There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the > MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use > Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow > box. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped > Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. That's right. I don't see "water down the Yellow Box" as an option. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Paul Heffernan <cedar@cedar.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Cedar Systems trying to reply to olaf@koeln.shuttle.de Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 00:25:29 +0000 Organization: Cedar Systems Limited Distribution: world Message-ID: <lOq4hCA5rJKzEwRs@cedar.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Olaf, Regarding your questions about CedarWord, its benefits and low cost; we have been trying to reply to your email but the mail is bouncing with unknown host. Please email us with your email address. Cedar Systems Limited 2440 The Quadrant, Aztec West, Bristol, BS12 4AQ, England email:phef@cedar.co.uk http://www.cedar.co.uk tel:+44 1454 878708 fax:+44 1454 878608
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:39:56 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? TIA, Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Date: 14 Mar 1997 00:46:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314004600.TAA03366@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <331F47A7.6F7E@ibm.net> Sarrus is alive and well in Burlingame, CA. Their number is 415-343-9111. Punch in extension 11 and talk to Andy and tell him Dede sent you. They provide excellent support!
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Q:Reporting tool Date: 14 Mar 1997 00:44:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314004400.TAA03225@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Try DataSmith from BLaCKSMITH in northern VA. Not sure of availability for OpenStep. They are located at Tysons Corner. info@blacksmith.com
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:16:09 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5g9v0t$ncd@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 14 Mar 1997 01:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000903971341270001@news.tiac.net> Lighthouse Design's apps will run on OpenStep Mach now. Call Lighthouse at 1-800-366-2279. They are currently porting most of their apps to OpenStep for Solaris (as they were recently bought by Sun) and are porting some to OpenStepNT.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Fonts? Message-ID: <E6ztvx.B4L@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 17:57:33 GMT In article <5g4ld4$e0a@news.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > On 03/11/97, Frank M. Siegert wrote: > >In <Un97j_i00iV9MBAXZI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > >> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 10-Mar-97 Fonts? by > GEOF > >> ABRUZZI@wilbur.cac. > >> > Easy question how do I install a font under NS3.3? Just put it > in the > >> > /NextLibrary/Fonts directory? > >> > >> Put it in /LocalLibrary/Fonts. You should leave the > >> /Next{Admin,Apps,Library} directories as-is. > >> > > > >And run (in a shell) > > > >buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts > > > >to make the fonts visible. > > > > I don't think you need to do this anymore. I'm pretty sure > that just copying them into that directory causes Workspace to 'do the > right thing'.... > > Not really... If you put it in ~/Library/Fonts, everything is done automatically, if you put the fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts or /NextLibrary/Fonts you have to manually run buildafmdir for the font directory. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Phone Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:58:05 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1303972258050001@81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> Does anyone out there know of a program like Internet Phone that can be used on a NeXT? I'm running an '040 Turbo cube with NS 3.3. Mitch
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 14 Mar 1997 03:16:08 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gafto$kq0@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) wrote: > > An article in the San Francisco Examiner said: > > > ... to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, > > developers would have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in > > rewriting its applications" for the yellow box. That would > > take too much time and money. Instead, he wants Tevanian to > > engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop can use some > > features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not > > get stuck in one or the other. > > > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes > > some compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount > > of time on our part." > > > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate > opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. > Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already > know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. People seem to take these comments as Warnock asking Apple to rewrite OpenStep (the "yellow box" part) to be compatible with the Toolbox routines of the MacOS. He is not saying that. He is suggesting no changes to the yellow box. What he is saying is that it will take Adobe too long to rewrite all their applications to the OpenStep API's. He wants some middle ground, but he's seeing that as changes to the *blue* box. Ie, add some hooks to the MacOS side such that MacOS applications can take advantage of some new technology, without having to be completely rewritten. Not only that, but for the transition it would be nice if *both* the blue-box *and* new versions of the MacOS had these changes. I can understand his reasoning. What I would do, if I were Apple, would be the following: 1) Get Rhapsody working, with a yellow-box that is basically the current OpenStep (plus some apple technologies), and a blue-box which is basically the MacOS. 2) *After* that is a shipping product, work on some simple improvements to both the MacOS and the blue box which might help out with the issues Warnock is talking about. I would not do any major development of the MacOS, but perhaps some minor (to program) changes could make a big difference for some applications. At the same time, developers like Warnock should realize that the OpenStep side of Rhapsody will have a big advantage. That part will be architecture-independent, and if Apple decides to push that product for the Intel architecture then Adobe (or anyone else trying to remain in the blue-box) will be out in the cold. The blue-box will definitely not make it to other architectures, and it would be stupid for an application developer to do a lot of work on their program only to have it limited to the blue-box on one architecture. Certainly I completely agree that Apple shouldn't spend a lot of effort trying to recreate the Mac toolbox under OpenStep. That is the path Copland took, and I think it's silly to head down that very same path a second time. note: Followups to advocacy groups, dropping csn.software (which is not an advocacy group!) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 1997 05:37:56 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't figure it out. I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just want to print out one or two screens of it. Thanks in advance for any help! David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: "Your Name" <email@domain.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 97 03:42:55 +0000 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >So, will Adobe be the first with the most on Apple's new OS, >Rhapsody? Or is that too big a risk? > >[Laughs.] When people ask whether doing products for >Rhapsody is too risky, I think the Adobe answer is that it's too risky >not to do our products on Rhapsody. > >In terms of how much we have, and when, that is going to depend on >what we learn from Apple, what tools are available, what those tools >will allow us to do, and to what degree we can synchronize our >development process with Apple's. I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above quote came from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with the Senior VP (of course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter then the freaking CEO fer crying out loud. Of course, like what has been suggested by some in this thread, if he wants to give the market to some newbies then heres yer chance newbies go fer it. I'll support you, if you write an awesome program. I have no love/hate fer Adobe. Just thought they would be smarter then MicroSloft thats all.) OF Marketing at Adobe. Sure looks like a different attitude to me fer those who missed this interview go to <http://www.macuser.com/onlinecol/roblin.html> and read the interview with the Senior VP of Adobe and see how they love the new merger. I hate to bash the media again but I have a feeling its bad reporting, at its best again. Misquotes and the like. I can't imagine a CEO of a major corporation being this stupid, but then again this is America 8)....sorry just had to say that.....Nothing bloody suprises me anymore. Can't wait fer the Apple bloodbath tomorrow when the media really starts tearing Apple apart. Just hope, all the mac guys out there can hold there ground, and not get worried about all the negative news. I know its hard fer me, but I want Rhapsody and I wanna buy it.....sorry can't stomach NT or Windows 95.....bleh 8P, I also refuse to buy a PeeCee. If Apple dies, I'm going to give up on people and technology. I bought a VHS, hated it......I hate Windows and refuse to use it.... Three cheers to Avie and his team, and the best to the new Apple. I hope they screw Adobe (if this is true) and give the people what they want. Its true that developers are important, but so are we......we gotta buy this shit (sorry about the "shit" thing here, just sick and tired of all crap thats all) and use it. Heck I don't even care, if Rhapsody looks like NeXT Step with no new additional UI changes......just get it out the door pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. Ken Townshend
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 02:41:03 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <858328121.9699@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com> In article <5ga40n$b4g$2@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > A bunch of stuff... > They (Apple) need to stay their course. If Adobe wants to sink themselves > (by not porting to Rhapsody), > let them. There are other apps out there to pick up the slack. If > Altsys revives Virtuoso, then between TIFFany and Virtuoso Adobe > could and would lose a lot of marketshare. It is more their loss > than ours, frankly. Most of their other products exist in some form > for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP already, too, so I think Adobe will be in for > a rude awakening if they stick to Warnock's short-sighted remarks. Not to mention ANIMO on NeXTSTEP which kicks the Ass out of Adobe After Effects when it comes to animation. Also add a few printing and text handling tools and it would blow away Illustrator as well. It simply has the nicest bezier drawing tools on the planet (both illustrator and freehand seem twitchy in comparison). Of course Cambridge Animation would have to move to a more mainstream pricing model :) All Tiffany needs is to reverse engineer the photoshop plug-in architecture, add support for a few more file formats, add photoshop layers, and it would rule. What's up with Adobe do they want to kill the Goose that laid the Golden Egg? Are they just another Windows developer now? Jon Hooper hoops@cbc.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: webboy@webname.com (David) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 01:43:07 -0700 Organization: Starnet Message-ID: <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189>, "Your Name" <email@domain.com> wrote: > >I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above quote came >from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with the Senior VP (of >course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter then the freaking CEO fer >crying out loud. Of course, like what has been suggested by some in this >thread, if he wants to give the market to some newbies then heres yer >chance newbies go fer it. I'll support you, if you write an awesome >program. I have no love/hate fer Adobe. Just thought they would be smarter >then MicroSloft thats all.) OF Marketing at Adobe. Sure looks like a >different attitude to me > This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. -- webboy@webname.com Made on a Power Macintosh 7300/180 Semper Mac!
From: biesingert@asme.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Two Column Menu for Services? Date: 14 Mar 1997 11:06:45 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Does anybody out there know how to handle a Services Menu that has become too long i.e. display it in two columns? What else could I do when the lower part cannot be displayed within the screen area? Much appreciate your comments, thanks! Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 14 Mar 1997 10:44:42 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gba6q$3br$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> In article <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a bit > too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to want to > load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in Netsurfer2.0 > works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load pages. > > Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? I have Netsurfer 2.0 running fine on a OS 4.1 box. I didn't have any problems with OS 4.0 either. Are your proxy entries configured accordingly ? I remember some problems in a 2.0beta release when a proxy was given with the "http://" prefix. They meanwhile should work with and without that prefix, but I didn't check that. I use it without prefix. Detlev PS: Netsurfers animated GIFs are a real plus over OmniWeb :-) -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Emil: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 04:21:16 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> webboy@webname.com (David) writes: >This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, >and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. -jcr
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PEANUTS CDROM ARCHIVE Date: 10 Mar 1997 07:04:43 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5g0bqb$58n@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5f8bai$6uc@milo.vcn.bc.ca> <E6M88D.7ou@onevision.de> <5fpf7b$me4$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >> >> I guess you guys forget the nice guys at peanuts do this in their spare >> time. And maybe there are just to much orders right now. >> You would prefer one of them sitting around just sending out emails saing >> sorry for the delay we are busy? >> > >The vacation unix utility would do the job. Or do they have some kind of an >automated reply message? > Hm, no. I'm not using the vacation utility. Maybe I should take a look on it. Anyway we are both using NeXTMail.app, so sending mail with enabled Read-Receipt would to the job, too. We also aren't 'flooded' with orders and we think we can handle them pretty well. But sometimes people expect magic things to happen even if they ordered without air-mail. In the first time, we used to use VariaData with a self-written script for processing the orders. This script automatically sent out an order confirmation via e-mail or fax, but with an growing number of orders, this script magically broke and we can't fix it. Hopefully I'll get my DataPhile licensed the next days and we can switch at least for the next CD-ROM (as far as there is demand for it ...) Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
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From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.DE (Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:39:59 GMT Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <5gb6df$glt@kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In article <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: # I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command # features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) # to be printed. ... # Use TickleServices. You'll get it from the usual FTP archives (ftp.leo.org for example). -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89 http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: 14 Mar 97 08:53:10 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar14085310@howard.one.net> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In-reply-to: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu's message of 14 Mar 1997 05:37:56 GMT In article <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu>, finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) writes: I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't figure it out. I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. You could pipe to enscript. Something like "... | enscript -2r". <plug>Another option would be to grab TickleServices. Then you can select the text, select the Services/Tickle Services/Enscript Text... menu item, and it gives you the option to print one-up or two-up.</plug> Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Your opinions and suggestion for improving CAPer/Ethertalk Date: 11 Mar 1997 21:17:56 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g4i64$7qq$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Howdy! I'd like to ask everyone using CAPer about her/his suggestions (Columbia Appletalk Package for NeXT). I am in the process of improving this package and like to know about your problems. So please take 5 minutes of your time and help me a bit... - Does it work for you? - What must be improved to make installation easier? - What must be improved to make daily work/administration easier? - What functionality is missing? - Is the performance sufficent? - Did you experienced any crashes or data corruption? If so when and how? - Does the file export work for you? (AUFS server) - Does the file import (afpmount) work for you? - Does the print server (using UNIX printers from the Mac-side) work? - Does printing (to Appletalk printers) using 'papif' or 'lwpr' work? If not please describe the network environment. - Anything else? Thank you very much, please send this to frank@this.net. ---------- Some known problems in CAPer/CAPpl198 Release 8 (V4) are - when printing to a NT Server 'papif' does not work but 'lwpr' does. - when printing to a Novell Server neither 'papif' nor 'lwpr' works, the job is sent ok but the programs never finish since the server never sents an acknowledge packet. - afpmount'ed volumes from a NT server seems to cause problems, since the server terminate the connection on large file transfers. - Despite the message: 'Current zone is "*", using default zone "foobar"' from aarpd, it does not use the zone. It has to provided in the perferences. - Some zone names cannot be handled by the startup script, you have to set the name in the script itself, not in the default file. I am about to inverstigate these problems, and most are successful resolved. However I'd like to hear if you experienced one of these bugs too (maybe in a different context and environment...). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: biesingert@asme.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TickleServices Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:46:20 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gc2tc$dit@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Trying to get Fiend into the LaunchPath as suggestion in the manual; unfortunately, the documentation of TickleServices does not give a hint on how to modify Workspace/Add To LaunchPaths # Add an entry to the Workspace LaunchPaths default. set filenames [filenames] set launchpaths [split [defaults read Workspace LaunchPaths ""] ";"] foreach filename $filenames { lappend launchpaths $filename } defaults write Workspace LaunchPaths [join $launchpaths ";"] Do u know? Thanks. Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: "Your Name" <email@domain.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 97 13:03:58 +0000 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <AF4EFD41-2B3A8@207.103.11.245> References: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://netnews.voicenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >>This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, >>and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. > >I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. > >John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, >developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript >interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don >Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. > >John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude >beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > If hes such a genius, then why can't he get it thru his FUCKING head that Apple has no time to putz around anymore and they have to take what they can get PERIOD. Rhapsody, is what everyone was wimping about (developers and customers), now they got it they won't use it !!! Sounds freaking dumb to me !!!!
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:45:41 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: warnock@adobe.com In-Reply-To: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > a look." > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Your absolutly right. I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of context in the original article. It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects integration for instance. These are two companies combining some powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. Mr. Warnock, I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also online. I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", I will take my buisness elsewhere. Thankyou for your time, Robb Lincoln
From: Jason Wells <jasonw@sequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:23:31 -0800 Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <332997A3.264A@sequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I mistakenly wrote: Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. Errr.... that was supposed to read, "that Adobe won't commit to Rhapsody." Oops. Jason
From: Jason Wells <jasonw@sequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 10:10:17 -0800 Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <33299488.7374@sequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Rudd wrote: In <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> David wrote: Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take a look." Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Probably. I think Warnock is trying to push Apple around because Apple is weak and Adobe is strong. But if Apple screws up Rhapsody for Warnock, everyone loses. I hope Apple shows a little spine here. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick. Jason
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace Problem Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:43:48 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I have this problem with BackSpace screensaver which is an old problem I believe. The extra modules I loaded says "Can't Dynamically Load Class" or somethign the like. How do I solve this problem? Yes, I know of Fiend and the modules work on Fiend. But why doesn't it work on BackSpace itself? There's binaries compiled for Intel and I even recompiled one of the modules. Michael Chan
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:43:19 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robb Lincoln wrote: > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help 'pay for the ports'. He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:44:55 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown with a home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. I am using NS 3.3 on Intel.
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:17:12 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Wells wrote: > > John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already > exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects > this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say > "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than > Photoshop, take > a look." > > Actually, I know the guys that make TIFFany. They're probably praying > that Adobe won't commit to Adobe. Which may not be a bad thing. TIFFany > is really, really cool. It isn't very cheap though. > The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with Adobe's programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? (Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac software?)
From: zizi zhao <ziziz@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: the Adobe thing (Re: Tevanian's Task) Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:42:01 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <3329AA09.68D8@worldnet.att.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Apple should learn that she has to have her own killer Apps to run on Rhapsody like MS-Office for windows. The realtionship between Adobe and Apple was two-side love. Without Apple, Abode would not be the king of electronic publishing today. However this love has been broken by NT. Apple should never look back. ZZ ____________________________________________________________________ Robb Lincoln wrote: > > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > > a look." > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > Your absolutly right. > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > context in the original article. > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? > > I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate > integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless > they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements > mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > Mr. Warnock, > > I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products > in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to > make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also > online. > I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its > release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", > I will take my buisness elsewhere. > > Thankyou for your time, > Robb Lincoln
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:41:30 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gcd5q$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Cc: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER In <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote: > I'm trying to figure out how to use the Pipe and Command > features in Edit so that I can send the section ($selection) > to be printed. I think there ought to be a way, but I can't > figure it out. > This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just > want to print out one or two screens of it. > David Finton > finton@cs.wisc.edu this might be an interesting project for someone; the source to textedit is included with 4.x dev, could you add a "print selection" checkbox to the print panel, like Improv has? this would be for OPENSTEP only, of course. -rick followups to c.s.n.programmer
From: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kai S. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Internet Phone Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:39:19 GMT Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland Message-ID: <5gcd1n$l78@coranto.ucs.mun.ca> References: <mitchell.allen-1303972258050001@81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> me too! Please email to me if you know. thanks! kai -- Software Engineer email: kwong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca url: http://web.cs.mun.ca/~kwong/ PGP fingerprint <1B 67 F5 6C C4 44 4F 87 52 F7 61 C7 8E D0 36 40> finger kwong@plato.ucs.mun.ca to get PGP public key.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-ROM Ejecting Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:49:34 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30b5$899fdb20$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> I believe there were questions on CD-ROM not being able to eject automatically. But mine ejects whenever I logout or power down. Furthermore, I keep having problems like CD problems asking me to eject or initialize. As documented that when installing EIDE drives, we need to select 154x SCSI and removing afterwards. But this problem continue to exist even after I have removed the 154x from the SCSI config. Any solutions to this? I am using NS3.3 with Sony CDU76E-S 1.0c. Michael
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <E71KnC.1x7@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:33:12 GMT "L. Todd Heberlein" <heberlei@NetSQ.com> wrote: > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and > money. > > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > > part." > > These comments have concerned me for two reasons. First, many vendors with > large projects which have evolved over time might balk to a whole new set > of APIs. In many instances, the original developers may be long gone. > Second, I thought Adobe would be one of the biggest supporters of Rhapsody. > After all, Apple is endorsing Adobe's Display Postscript. I even seem to > recall Adobe once had an application on NEXTSTEP. I think Apple should be > concerned about and address these issues. How they address this is another > story, but I hope they do. > > There appears to be at least three migration paths. First, stick with the > MacOS APIs and run your applications in the Blue Box. Second, use > Metrowerk's Lattitude software to move your MacOS code to the yellow > box[1][2]. Third, develop new code for the Yellow box. Metrowerks helped > Apple's transition to the PowerPC, maybe history will repeat itself. > > Todd > > [1] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/rhapsody.html > [2] http://www.metrowerks.com/news/press/management.html > ComposeInColor or TiffAny2 are good competitor to PhotoShop. -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Netsurfer 2.0 broken with OPENSTEP 4.x? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:41:27 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5gcgm7$1vk@news4.digex.net> References: <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> <5gba6q$3br$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) wrote: > In article <5ga2dd$n7p@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> > writes: > > I just upgraded to Netsurfer 2.0 (OmniWeb was just getting a > > bit too pokey for me). Unfortunatly, web pages don't seem to > > want to load up. Netsurfer 1.11 works fine. And FTP'ing in > > Netsurfer2.0 works fine. But 2.0 doesn't seem to want to load > > pages. > > Anyone else experience this? Is there a workaround? > I have Netsurfer 2.0 running fine on a OS 4.1 box. I didn't have > any problems with OS 4.0 either. > Are your proxy entries configured accordingly ? I remember some > problems in a 2.0beta release when a proxy was given with the > "http://" prefix. They meanwhile should work with and without > that prefix, but I didn't check that. I use it without prefix. Hmmm, I don't use a proxy.?! Weird, b/c everything else works. I can't figure it out. I wonder what's going on here...sigh... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> I remember that someone (was it Ian?) said there was a patch to 4.1, that brought it up to 4.1.1. Where do I find it? On Insignia's site I see Nextspc4.1p1.Z, does that update 4.0->4.1, or is that the 4.1->4.1.1 update? Thanks for any info? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:54:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> writes: >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) You are the second person who mentioned "bluff." But for what? What does Adobe gain by this bluff? It only makes sense if Apple is trying to do something seriously worse than Adobe's extra cost for developing for Rhapsody. Like, Apple quietly not using true Adobe-made DisplayPostScript... There was a rumer some weeks ago, posted in comp.lang.postscript, that QMS quietly dropped using Adobe PS several years ago, but QMS offered to Adobe that they would continue to use "Adobe PostScript" label as a *favor* to Adobe (of course without licensing fees). The rationale being that Adobe wouldn't want the industry to know that they are losing the hold as the dominant PS interpreter supplier. I don't know if I should believe this rumer, but if Apple tries to do something similar, or trying to license DPS clone from someone else, or have their own internal version of DPS, I can see how upset the Adobe CEO might become, which may cause him to use the Adobe apps as a leverage for licensing of Adobe DPS by Apple. Otherwise, I don't get it. Izumi
From: dob@mrd100.mmm.ucar.edu (David Blanchard,,,) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: perl v5.002 .pkg install Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:18:29 GMT Organization: NOAA/NSSL, Boulder, Colorado Message-ID: <5gcfb5$55$1@newncar.ucar.edu> Hello, I just recently downloaded the perl v5.002 package (Perl.pkg) and tried the install. Everything seemed to work fine; executables installed in /usr/local/bin, man pages in /usr/local/man/, etc. However, I cannot seem to find the perl executable anywhere. Do I need to get it elsewhere (??), or am I missing the obvious? Thanks, -db- -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Blanchard NOAA/NSSL & OU/CIMMS Boulder, Colorado | | blanch@ucar.edu http://mrd3.mmm.ucar.edu/~dob/www/ | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace Problem Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:58:28 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5gcs7k$mjm@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Cc: Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg In <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" wrote: > I have this problem with BackSpace screensaver which is an old problem I > believe. > The extra modules I loaded says "Can't Dynamically Load Class" or somethign > the like. How do I solve this problem? The module name that BackSpace is looking for changed with the newer version of BackSpace that arrived with NeXTstep 3.0. All the files that used to be named SomethingView.o need to be renamed SomethingView.BackO There is a cshell script in /NextDeveloper/Examples/AppKit/Backspace that will do this for you, it is named convertToBackOs. Or you can do it yourself from the command line or even from the point-and-click GUI. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 15 Mar 1997 01:44:49 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm287-04.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5gcuuh$b9u$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Cc: Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg In <01bc30a5$650e3be0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" wrote: > I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown with a > home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. > > I am using NS 3.3 on Intel. > > Check the ownerships of the directories. The directories have to be owned by the users. This gets damaged when using 'tar' to restore lost directories etc. Also, if the directories are moved to a disk other then the main disk, the disk get's mounted under the ownership of the user loggen in on the console. /etc/fstab takes care of that. Example is enclosed. You have to change the /dev/sdXY devices and the mounting points. Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability -------------- Enclosed example of /etc/fstab ------------ # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING # # This file contains information used to mount local hard disks. # Consult your system administration and networking manual # for information on adding local disks. Information on the format # of entries in this file can also be found in the fstab man page, # search for fstab in Digital Librarian. # /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd1a /InternalDisk2 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 /dev/sd2a /ExternalDisk 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Two Column Menu for Services? Date: 14 Mar 1997 12:56:58 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5gbhuq$3hf@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <5gbbg5$r0t@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> On 03/13/97, biesingert@asme.org wrote: >Does anybody out there know how to handle a >Services Menu that has become too long i.e. >display it in two columns? What else could I do >when the lower part cannot be displayed within >the screen area? > >Much appreciate your comments, thanks! > >Thomas There is no way to make the menu two columns. There are a few things you can do: 1) In Preferences.app there is a "Servcies Preferences" module which allows you to disable services which you don't use. These disabled services will no longer clutter up your menu. Disable enough and the menu will soon fit on the screen again. 2) Enable the right-mouse button pop up menu feature and use this to access the services menu. If part of the services menu appears off the screen you can drag the mouse down to the bottom of the screen and the menu will scroll up until more is visible. 3) Set the system to use a smaller system font. 4) Use a higher resolution display (on Intel). >Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, >University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, >Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, >vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. >NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available. -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:11:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.mac.advocacy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Robb Lincoln wrote: > >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help >'pay for the ports'. > >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its operating system. It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Apple is handcuffed to a burning building and has started to chew off its right leg to survive." - David Brady referring to rumored Apple cuts. -------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:38:42 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gcr2i$c41@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> Followups-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy "Your Name" <email@domain.com> wrote: > > > "So, will Adobe be the first with the most on Apple's new > > OS, Rhapsody? Or is that too big a risk?" > > > > "[Laughs.] When people ask whether doing products for > > Rhapsody is too risky, I think the Adobe answer is that > > it's too risky not to do our products on Rhapsody." > > > > "In terms of how much we have, and when, that is going to > > depend on what we learn from Apple, what tools are > > available, what those tools will allow us to do, and to > > what degree we can synchronize our development process > > with Apple's." > > I agree with everyone here on this subject matter. The above > quote came from MacUser this months issue. The interview was with > the Senior VP (of course hes not the CEO, but he sounded smarter > then the freaking CEO fer crying out loud). Note that he did not necessarily say anything different from what John Warnock said. It just left you warmer and fuzzier than John's comments. For one, different people mean different things when they say "Rhapsody" (including people at Apple...). Besides, his comments have a lot of "it depends on Apple" disclaimers in it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: tbrown@netset.com (Ted Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 22:38:48 -0500 Organization: NetSet Internet Services -- Columbus, Ohio Message-ID: <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: >The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with >Adobe's >programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is >public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone >port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? > >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) I don't know the specifics about Adobe's Plug-in API, but it could be possible for a native Rhapsody program to load a PPC plug-in and run it (I don't think that Plug-in's have full access to the MacOS). That would mean that a plug-in wouldn't have to be ported to Rhapsody. And, I wouldn't bet that companies won't port their plug-ins, esp if they see the market begin to shift. Small companies tend to be quite familiar with which side their bread is buttered on. As you point out, large companies like Adobe should also have an inkling which side to butter. -- Ted Brown tbrown@netset.com
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Procmail - forward to user? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 15 Mar 1997 08:53:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5gdo2h$563@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hello, I was just trying to install "procmail" on my system, for this special purpose: I want it to take each incoming mail and if teh subject line matches, teh mail should go to me AND someone else (alternatively, only someone else). However, I don't seem to find any provisions for that... the ebst I got is that the mail went to the proper mailbox in the spool directory, but owned by me so that the other user didn't get at it... Is there any way, procmail or not, that would selectively forward my email to someone else? Please Cc: me when you reply to the newsgroup, our news server is lagging by ~4 days... Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: (Driver Kit...) Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:46:26 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5gdum2$6f1$3@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I was trying to write a Device Driver for EPIX frame grabber card under NextStep 3.2. My problem is that when ever I try to open the port, and if the video signal is not present at the port (camera is not powered on) the system hangs. Is there any way I could time this out. I mean if the port is not available (not powered) just don't open it!! Any pointer on this will be helpful. Thank you very much for your time ... Sanjeev
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 05:11:03 -0600 From: hoops@cbc.net Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <858423677.26839@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> In article <jcr.858341775@idiom.com>, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > > webboy@webname.com (David) writes: > > >This is the difference between a CEO, who knows little about programming, > >and an actual programmer, who can see the benefits of OpenSTEP. > > I'm not letting this one just go by, NFW. > > John Warnock solved the hidden-surface problem. John Warnock conceived, > developed and refined the Postscript language and adobe's postscript > interpreter. John Warnock is a genius. He is right up there with Don > Knuth, Alan Turing, and John Von Neumann. > > John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude > beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > > -jcr He could be Mother Fucking Theresa for all I care. He should just shut-up and port the damn apps. Illustrator is already done for NeXTSTEP, dust off the disks and release it. As for the other apps, if his developers are all so tired after porting everything to Windows, why don't they go out and buy Tiffany, Paste-Up and a plethora of other NeXTSTEP apps and repackage them as Adobe apps for Rhapsody? Hoops -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: rz and tip??? Date: 15 Mar 1997 15:58:14 GMT Organization: Exis Net Inc Message-ID: <5gegum$3uk@grouper.exis.net> A couple of questions: I am the proud new owner of a NextStation (mono, non-turbo, NS3.3) and want to get PPP and OmniWeb, etc up and running. The problem is how can I reliably transfer files from my shell account at my ISP to the next. I figured out how get tip to dial in, but I haven't been able to get rz to work. I downloaded the rzsz package from the peanuts archive to my 286 Minix box and used a DOS floppy to get it to the Next. The question is how do I use it? Also, the Next I got is set up to load from a network and I'm using it as a standalone. I know the command~ then "bsd" thing to start it up, but what do I have to change to aviod doing this every time I power down? I realize that these are probably FAQs, but I've been looking around and haven't found an answer that works. Thanks, Jason
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:32:53 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Distribution: world Message-ID: <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> In article <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com wrote: >If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. >Period. > Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:41:47 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Message-ID: <jyh-1503971142040001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: >(Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's >IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac >software?) But the yellow box is not the Mac, not in the sense of "Mac market" at least. As long as Adobe writes for the MacOS (7.6 and after), it still sells to the Mac market. *Right now*, writing for the yellow box is like writing for the NeXT market, which is definitely not worth Adobe's effort. Companies like Adobe can have legitimate concerns whether Apple will survive. If Apple goes belly up, Adobe will still be able to sell MacOS versions of its software to the existing Mac market for years to come, but any development efforts on the yellow box would be completely wasted. I think that large companies like MS, Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and even Claris, will adopt a kind of "wait and see" (deathwatch if you want) attitude. They will have programmers playing around with OpenStep, but won't commit to any port to the yellow box. Well, IMHO that is. regards. j-y hervé -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu (Brian K. Meadows) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 4.0 to 4.1 upgrade results in SendMail meltdown Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:10:37 GMT Organization: Applied Chaos Lab Message-ID: <332b2c51.322971364@news.gatech.edu> 4.0 to 4.1 upgrade results in SendMail meltdown During the last upgrade to OpenStep 4.1 for Intel hardware, our mail service begin to fail. The installation went fine, but in no time we begin to see a number anomalies in the transmission and reception of email. Incoming messages were either bounced back, delayed days before being received, or worse the message would be lost at our server. It appeared to the outside that mail was being received but in reality we never got the message from the spool file. We spent a good bit of time checking the external network (router, switch, nameserver, gateway…you get the idea). Finally, I had to punt and reinstall OpenStep 4.0. Things are back to normal so it must be the upgrade. I've looked over the news groups for awhile and haven't spotted anyone with a similar problem. I hoped my post might generate some ideas. Thanks for any and all help, Brian Meadows P.S. As a personal note, I am disappointed in Next for not supporting the upgrade. I was informed that Next charges 150 $/hr to debug sendmail problems. Even Microsoft supports their OS upgrades for 30 days. ______________________________________ Brian K. Meadows Applied Chaos Laboratory School of Physics Georgia Institute of Technology Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 phone: (404) 894-1448 fax: (404) 894-9958 email: bmeadows@acl.gatech.edu WWW: http://acl.gatech.edu ______________________________________
From: kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com (Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:20:24 -0800 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com>, tbrown@netset.com (Ted Brown) wrote: > In article <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > >The main catch is all those Plug-Ins and extensions that work with > >Adobe's > >programs. People have invested a lot of money in those. The API is > >public, but even if Tiffany included support for the API, would anyone > >port their extensions to Rhapsody if Adobe doesn't go? > I don't know the specifics about Adobe's Plug-in API, but it could be > possible for a native Rhapsody program to load a PPC plug-in and run it (I > don't think that Plug-in's have full access to the MacOS). That would > mean that a plug-in wouldn't have to be ported to Rhapsody. Plug-ins would have to be recompiled to work in the yellow box, because not only are the OS services different, but process model and runtime will be different as well (probably). On the other hand, OpenStep apps can do plug-ins MUCH easier than blue apps can, based on the objC runtime. Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and the app providing the service is automagically called with that data to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. // ---- // --- email is k j r a y at ix.netcom.com ---------- Check out: <http://www.devworld.apple.com/> --------- <http://www.devtools.apple.com/> ---------- <http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> ----------- <http://www.solutions.apple.com/listadmin> --- ---
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 14:29:47 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <332AF8AB.193A@subsequent.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lawson English wrote: > > >Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > > >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > >'pay for the ports'. > > > >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > > >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > > > > Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is > *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: > > it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its > operating system. No, it doesn't. > It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes > the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). No, it isn't. 99.999% of the Mac UI could be implemented without Quickdraw. The entire Macintosh user experience could be duplicated using Postscript or Windows GDI. > By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of > Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. No, it doesn't. I never said such a ploy would actually work. Warnock might just be feeling cocky - this doesn't necessarily mean he's got a leg to stand on.
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: 14 Mar 1997 16:21:43 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was this: - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, Diagram, etc.) - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: mattj@invisix.com Subject: OmniWeb filling up hard drive Message-ID: <3f7cd$e2f3a.30@news.goldengate.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:47:58 GMT After web browsing for about four hours, my Workspace says my hard drive has no space left on it. I've used the "Flush Cache" button in OmniWeb, but that seems to just blank out the files that are already there. I have to logoff, and restart the computer to clear everything out and reclaim the disk space. Is there any limits I can set to prevent this from happening? I'm using OmniWeb 2.1.2 on a turbo color station with 32MB RAM and 250MB HD with 42MB free. (Isn't there a new version of Omniweb, too?) Thanks. Please repsond in e-mail. -- MATT | mailto:mattj@invisix.com NeXTMail Ok jurcich | http://www.invisix.com "You know, BA, with a pair of pliers and a little time, you can fix anything except dinner."
From: embuck@yin.mcleod.net (Erik M. Buck) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 16 Mar 1997 00:14:08 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Message-ID: <5gfe0g$a8s1@news.mcleodusa.net> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> Cc: english@primenet.com Postscipt is an open standard. Apple could re-implement it themselves or use a variant of ghostscript or whatever. It just makes sense to license from Adobe because it works and it is done.
From: jayfar@netaxs.com (Jay Farrell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 19:38:32 -0500 Organization: Jayfar's Original Virtual Macintosh Message-ID: <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> In article <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156>, "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com> wrote: | >Robb Lincoln wrote: | > | >> Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... | >> Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. | > | >He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: | >Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help | >'pay for the ports'. | > | >He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and | >expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. | > | >He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to | >make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. | > | | Which merely proves one of my original points about how DPS is | *automatically* a bad thing for Apple: | | it makes Apple dependent on another company for THE essential core of its | operating system. | | It's the GUI that makes a Mac a Mac and its the graphics engine that makes | the GUI (or enhancements thereof possible). | | By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of | Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. It seems as though Adobe is finally trying to take their revenge for TrueType. The primary purpose of TrueType, when Apple created it, was to not be beholden to Adobe, whose license fees were more than Apple wanted to pay. Bet Adobe wasn't too happy that TrueType ended up in windoze as well. Cheers, Jayfar -- Jay Farrell Jayfar's Original Virtual Macintosh jayfar@netaxs.com * Now Updated Daily * Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA <URL:http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/>
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:35:00 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5gfpp4$o9s@news2.cais.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> There was a typo in that e-mail address. The correct one is: nxfax@bandw.com -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 23:30:42 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1503972330420001@38.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> <AF4EFD41-2B3A8@207.103.11.245> > >John Warnock's programming skill is several orders of magnitude > >beyond that of anyone who's ever griped about him in this newsgroup. > > That may be, but I bet I could write a Mac program that would crash just as much as Illustrator or PageMaker, though he probably didn't program either of these, and make a hell of a lot less money doing it. Mitch
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From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:43:47 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <332B7A81.3E0F@earthlink.net> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> <332AF8AB.193A@subsequent.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > By committing to DPS, Apple makes themselves vulnerable to every whim of > Adobe, as you yourself just pointed out. NeXT seemed to get along OK with Adobe and they had much fewer users.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <tbrown-1403972238490001@ppp102.dialup.cmh.netset.com> <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 06:38:48 GMT Sender: petrich@netcom6.netcom.com In article <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, Ray <kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, >you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and >the app providing the service is automagically called with that data >to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but >maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. This seems a lot like Amiga/BeOS "datatypes". Is that a fair comparison? What the "datatypes" facility offers is using plug-ins to translate to and from a wide variety of data formats, such as different image formats. In this way, a writer of an image editor need not be concerned about the details of reading and writing of various image formats, but only with those of some generic formats (black/white, grayscale, index, RGB color, CMYK color, RGB + alpha channel, etc.) -- Loren Petrich Happiness is a fast Macintosh petrich@netcom.com And a fast train My home page: http://www.webcom.com/petrich/home.html Mirrored at: ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/pe/petrich/home.html
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: white box Apache 1.2b? Date: 16 Mar 1997 08:22:48 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1603970225350001@thebook.on-demand.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ Hello, Where might I be able to acquire a binary or .pkg for Apache 1.2b7? I'm using NeXTStep 3.3 for Intel. TIA! Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970316.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970309.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970302.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Mar 1997 02:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160631.BAA08421@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 477cf7d75f9daa1552f707e49622b487 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:31:07 -0500 Subject: Re: TickleServices Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 477cf7d75f9daa1552f707e49622b487 - Responding To: biesingert@asme.org Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:46:20 GMT > Trying to get Fiend into the LaunchPath as suggestion in > the manual; unfortunately, the documentation of TickleServices > does not give a hint on how to modify Workspace/Add To LaunchPaths select Fiend.app in WM goto the Service/Workspace/Add to LaunchPaths that should add Fiend to the launchPaths for you you should not need to modify TickleServices to do this TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:34:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - Responding To: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:44:55 GMT Message-ID: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - > I encountered a problem that some home directories are not shown > with a home directory icon but a normal folder icon instead. you probably have turned on 'large file system' under Preferences.app TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: Open Sesame service dosen't work Date: 16 Mar 1997 09:37:02 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5ggevu$m2u@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I just upgraded my system from 3.3 to 4.1 two days ago. In the beginning, everything seems working well for me, however, without any reason (at least I don't know), suddenly I can not use the service of Open Sesame anymore. I can still access it if I login either as root or as me, but it does not work for my own account (all the menu items are dimmed). Does anyone know the reason? BTW, I've also found that Thinner.app is not working under 4.1. Does anyone know of a workaround of this? TIA Yuwen Cheng yucheng@math.arizona.edu -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
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From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:07:03 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5ghgcn$kq5@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <jyh-1503971142040001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé <jyh@ai.polymtl.ca> wrote: >Companies like Adobe can have legitimate concerns whether Apple will >survive. If Apple goes belly up, Adobe will still be able to sell MacOS >versions of its software to the existing Mac market for years to come, but >any development efforts on the yellow box would be completely wasted. I >think that large companies like MS, Adobe, Macromedia, Corel, and even >Claris, will adopt a kind of "wait and see" (deathwatch if you want) >attitude. They will have programmers playing around with OpenStep, but >won't commit to any port to the yellow box. Well, IMHO that is. This is just what I've been trying to reason in another thread. While I don't like or want to see this happen, I think Adobe's attitude in regards to porting is a serious sign of trouble ahead, EVEN if it's only throwing some weight around. I'm quite sure this won't be the last announcement like this (even if Adobe will probably publicly round off their comments). I'm stiff scared when thinking that the major Apple developeres (those that are needed to convert people to Rhapsody) won't take the effort of learning the new API and porting their software clean to Rhapsody. If this happens, well.... I don't see a bright future for Apple (and will probably find another profession to work in myself :) Regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 16 Mar 1997 20:49:54 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences welcome. Thanks. -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161836.NAA03718@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:36:06 -0500 Subject: Re: OmniWeb filling up hard drive Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - Responding To: mattj@invisix.com Original Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 20:47:58 GMT Message-ID: 3b841688bc70053950046cbac48554d2 - > I'm using OmniWeb 2.1.2 on a turbo color station with 32MB RAM and > 250MB HD with 42MB free. (Isn't there a new version of Omniweb, > too?) There sure is, but I don't know if it will be any better for you: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5b2/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703162015.PAA04540@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d9552e73c3178ee01b3e78eccc87c81a - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 15:15:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Two Column Menu for Services? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: d9552e73c3178ee01b3e78eccc87c81a - Responding To: biesingert@asme.org Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 11:06:45 GMT > Does anybody out there know how to handle a > Services Menu that has become too long i.e. > display it in two columns? What else could I do > when the lower part cannot be displayed within > the screen area? wow... yet another short reply that turned into a longer reply that turned into a shell script...... yes, you can disable the services you do not want in Preferences.app however, that does not help if you have services you want to keep but need to trim the services menu I may be able to provide some help with that, if you have the developer's tools (actually just 'segedit'). PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK Basically, there are TWO ways in which services are defined 1) inside the executable (aka "The old evil way") 2) in a plaintext file within the app-wrapper called 'services' (strangely enough! ;-) To change #1 you need segedit. To change #2 you do not (just a text editor will do). I have written a script (surprise surprise) that will lead you through the process (either way). The script require segedit (but if you don't have segedit you don't really need the script, since you can only edit the #2 apps and can do that with Edit.app. Using the script, you will be able to change the "Menu Item:" within the services information. For example, Webster.app has this definition: Message: defineWord Port: Webster Send Type: NeXT plain ascii pasteboard type Menu Item: Define in Webster KeyEquivalent: = Which is nice and all, but why should "Define in Webster" get a WHOLE LINE in your services 1st sub-menu? (other apps are like this too... Quotations, /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app is another) So what I've done is change the apps that have just one or two entries to all go under a submenu /Services/Apps. This saves me a lot of space. For example, I changed Webster to be Menu Item: Apps/Define in Webster (compare that line with the one above) Now I get to keep Webster's service, but it isn't taking up a whole submenu all by itself. The script I've written allows you to change the services definition (provided you have write permissions, of course), and will do all the 'segedit' stuff for you (or lead you through the 'services' file too). You probably won't even know if you are dealing with the hard, old evil way or the nice new way. The script is called 'hack-services' (I was going to give it a more UNIX name like 'hksrv' but decided not to). You use it like this: hack-services /NextApps/Webster.app/Webster or to do more than one at a time (successively): hack-services /NextApps/Webster.app/Webster /LocalApps/Fiend.app/Fiend The script is available via email. Send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime hack-services or get the file directly from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/hack-services keep in mind I wrote this script rather quickly, and it seems to work perfectly, meaning that I have no idea what bugs are there. Use at your own risk yadda yadda datta datta datta datta dum. If you need help with this, drop me a line. Tj "please don't take my commandline away" Luoma -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161833.NAA03680@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:32:45 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP: rz and tip??? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - Responding To: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Original Date: 15 Mar 1997 15:58:14 GMT Message-ID: 9d59b9f049867e5321afc0ce7124c515 - > Also, the Next I got is set up to load from a network and I'm using > it as a standalone. I know the command~ then "bsd" thing to start > it up, but what do I have to change to aviod doing this every time > I power down? It is often best to put separate questions in separate posts, so people will see them (also people will be able to see using followups if it has been answered already). The answer to this part is to go to the ROM monitor (where you type 'bsd' now) and type 'p' to set the preferences. You will see the first (I think) is the boot setting, which is set to 'en' (for ethernet network perhaps?) Anyway, change it to 'sd' and leave the rest as they are. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: 17 Mar 1997 05:25:38 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> Yeah, it is solved now. Any reasons behind this on why this happens? Michael
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace Problem Date: 17 Mar 1997 05:27:39 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3294$58f178e0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc30a5$3d89a820$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5gcs7k$mjm@news1.ucsd.edu> It doesn't seems to be this problem. The required .BackO are there and Fiend can use them without problem. Michael
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:33:28 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a random stream of characters suddenly being diverted into the activated app, with at best a series of error bells and at worst all kind of unintended action. Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) is there any way to turn it OFF? Geert Jan van Oldenborgh -- work: oldenbor@knmi.nl else: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 13:19:34 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> In article <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: > I remember that someone (was it Ian?) said there was a patch to > 4.1, that brought it up to 4.1.1. Where do I find it? On Insignia's > site I see Nextspc4.1p1.Z, does that update 4.0->4.1, or is that > the 4.1->4.1.1 update? Nextspc4.1p1.Z is 4.1->4.1p1. It fixes a bug with some winsock ioctls. The only thing it is known to fix is in the notifier app for the bug tracking systen Clarify. (It just so happens that both Insignia, and one of the Insignia's biggest NeXTStep customers both chose clarify - they were dead impressed that we were able to get it all turned round so quickly!) There is a latter more signifigant patch 1001, which takes 4.1->4.1p1001 (ignore the number it just means that it was patch for the customer with issue number 1001, its nothing to do with p1). This is a much larger change which fixes a number of other networking bugs. (particularly Lotus Notes IV, though it may break other things - it's really intended for a customer who needed to run Notes4). Unfortunatly I don't have a copy of 4.1p1001. This is particularly annoying as I need to run NotesIV! It is not available via insignia's ftp site, though it once was. They appear to have "tidied up", and this patch got lost somewhere. If anyone DOES have a copy of p1001 (and the associated winsock.dll) I'd love to get a copy (it only works with licensed versions of 4.1 so I don't think licensing is an issue, but thats just my opinion). $an DISCLAIMER: I no longer have any connection to Insignia (other than being a very unhappy share holder). The above simply relates the situation, as I understand it/remember it.
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to combine 2 floppies? Date: 17 Mar 1997 14:25:45 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5gjk99$1o9$1@news2.voicenet.com> I've got Sybase 4.1 on 2 floppies, and I want to install it on a cube that is floppyless. I have a color station itting next to it....is there a way (via network or otherwise) to install it on the cube? -Darren
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:59:58 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970317055735.15039B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Larry Howard <lph@sei.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: 50dd6256d3028bef3dd2b3251e98f71c - On 16 Mar 1997, Larry Howard wrote: > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > welcome. asking an FAQ is not nearly as bad, in my mind, as asking the same FAQ on two separate newsgroups in two separate messages. samba should compile without too much trouble. I have not done it myself but have heard others say so. Only "trick" is you have to make sure you have the config right for your setup. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 16:46:09 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5gjsgh$ah8@shelob.afs.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl writes > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is > starting up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a > random stream of characters suddenly being diverted into the activated > app, with at best a series of error bells and at worst all kind of > unintended action. You must _love_ Windows, then. > Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) > is there any way to turn it OFF? It's very un-neighborly, but if an app demands to be made key and active, Workspace complies. No way to turn this off. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Home Directory Icons Lost Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:14:06 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wn=LjS200iVD45rjEL@andrew.cmu.edu> References: 127e228bdb87a4ba6cb459ed545ab77d - <199703160634.BAA08439@kira.peak.org> <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <01bc3294$109ffbc0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Mar-97 Re: Home Directory Icons Lost by "Michael Chan"@compugrap > Yeah, it is solved now. Any reasons behind this on why this happens? Yes. The Workspace is overenthusiastic about checking the file status [the fstat() system call] for files and directories to provide a very up-to-date display of the filesystem. However, fstat() is a relatively expensive operation to perform over a distributed filesystem like NFS or AFS. Furthermore, if you've got 20,000 users, comparing the path being displayed in a browser to all of those user's home directories is relatively expensive. So NeXT came up with the "large filesystem option" which reduces the amount of non-essential checking that the Workspace does when displaying the filesystem in a browser window. I believe this change was made in response to complaints here at CMU and maybe U-Michigan over NEXTSTEP's performance when using AFS. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: christw@lexis-nexis.com (Christopher C. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:27:20 GMT Organization: LEXIS-NEXIS, Dayton OH Message-ID: <5gjuto$d1l@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> References: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <AF4F10A4-C400E@198.68.42.156> <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com> In article <jayfar-1503971938320001@downtown1-4.slip.netaxs.com>, jayfar@netaxs.com (Jay Farrell) writes: |> It seems as though Adobe is finally trying to take their revenge |> for TrueType. The primary purpose of TrueType, when Apple created |> it, was to not be beholden to Adobe, whose license fees were more |> than Apple wanted to pay. Bet Adobe wasn't too happy that TrueType |> ended up in windoze as well. And the most interesting thing is that once again, MS got useful technology from Apple, in exchange for dreck. MS's original license agreement for Apple's technology (for use in Win1.0) specified that in exchange, MS would release new versions of MS-Word and Multiplan. MS failed to deliver those on time. In exchange for TrueType technology, MS was to deliver to Apple a clone of a postscript interpreter, called TrueImage. It was too buggy to ship. Chris -- Speaking only for myself, of course. Chris Wood christw@lexis-nexis.com cats@CFAnet.com
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Samba and Rumba and CAPer...Oh My! Date: 17 Mar 1997 18:02:06 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5gk0uu$g1c@news.sei.cmu.edu> My home desktop LAN has three boxes: a NeXTstation running NS3.3 a PowerMac running MacOS 7.5.5 a Pentium laptop running Windows 95 (w/PC Card Ethernet Adapter) (I also have a 68030 Mac running MacOS 7.5.5 and Vicom Internet Gateway providing routing services to the Internet via a PPP dialup into work...but that's another story.) My mission was for every box to be able to natively browse the files on every other box for NO money and a MODEST investment of time. Mac to NeXT was made easy thanks to Frank Siegert, et al., porting the Columbia Appletalk Package (CAP) to NS. Cheers to him, and I'll plug his site (www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html). After many travails in keeping NeXT's Appletalk Pkg functioning through 3.3, I kiss it goodbye. PC to NeXT was more challenging, but I kept hearing from Linux-folk about Samba (http://samba.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/). Got the latest version, hacked it, phutzed with it...it works. So this go me most of the way there. The PC was able to browse the NeXT's file system, but the NeXT had to use a terminal-based, ftp-like program "smbclient". Not good enough. Fortunately, Christian Starkjohann had posted the availability of a Lanmanager client for NS called Rumba, based on smbfs 0.8. Got it... it works fine. Rumba can be obtained from the Peanuts archive. (peanuts.leo.org) So mission accomplished. The Next provides a "nexus" ;') for the file sharing, such that the PC sees the Mac's files mounted remotely on, and exported by, the NeXT, and the Mac sees the PC's files the same way. Before anyone asks, printing services on my LAN are supported by an HP JetDirect ethernet print server, so printing wasn't an issue for me in the use of this software, although printer sharing is addressed by both Samba and CAP. Let's hear it for PD software and NeXT's bundling of NFS with NS, without which none of this would have been possible. -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <E76MzK.I4z@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:11:44 GMT In article <petrichE74IGp.KJy@netcom.com> petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich) writes: > In article <kjNOSPAMray-ya023480001503971020240001@nntp.ix.netcom.com>, > Ray <kjNOSPAMray@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > >Also, current OpenStep apps can make available "services". In any application, > >you can select text or graphics, choose a service from the menu, and > >the app providing the service is automagically called with that data > >to perform some operation. It's not scriptable like AppleScript, but > >maybe a future OpenStep will have scripting linked in with these services. > > This seems a lot like Amiga/BeOS "datatypes". Is that a fair > comparison? What the "datatypes" facility offers is using plug-ins to > translate to and from a wide variety of data formats, such as different > image formats. > THIS kind of services are alos available for OPENSTEP. As far as I know ( and I do no programming) there are five differnt classes of services: The Interapplication sevices described above the filter services which compare with the datatypes the printfilter services which do PostScript postprocessing the spell services which extend the list off available dictonaires the indexing services which full text searching for certain document types -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg
From: rangmj@rice.edu (Moon Rang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Control: cancel <5fvgla$7nk$1@joe.rice.edu> Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:08:29 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5gk4rd$nai$1@joe.rice.edu> cancel
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help with NeXT Names Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:52:54 -0800 Organization: Party of One Message-ID: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my current understanding of the situation: 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. It runs on HP's, Sun's Intel and NeXT. Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And what s OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on black? 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? And are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I don't think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:33:53 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center Message-ID: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> Hi, every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). Any help or pointers would be appreciated... be well, danno
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:31:05 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> In article <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) wrote: > Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why > should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for Apple users. He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. Maury
From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:48:10 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5gkama$qri@crl.crl.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5gjsgh$ah8@shelob.afs.com> >> window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating >> Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is >> Is there any UI guideline that this should NOT happen, and (beter still) >> is there any way to turn it OFF? I am pretty sure that you can turn off PopOver notifying Mail.app in the PopOver preferences. There is a box labeled something like app to notify that contains "Mail.app". Just my two cents...HC -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:24:37 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? Michael Chan
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LAPACK Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:59:24 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. Any insite will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 01:35:36 -0800 Organization: Party of One Message-ID: <332D1068.976@earthlink.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maury Markowitz wrote: > Why should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? > And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for > Apple users. I agree with this statement. The Photoshop/Mac connection made Adobe. > He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next > Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. Being a NeXT-head myself I would like to agree. But when one looks at the situation, although NeXT technonolgy is superior, we always have been a small, sophisticated community and there really isn't much motivation for Apple to give two hoots what NeXT Users think. They just bought the tech, and will pervert it to give MAC/OS the advantages it doesn't already have: multi-platform portability, multi-threading and protected memory spaces. I would lay odds that after they start gaining marketshare with Rhapsody they start phasing out the NeXTStep/OpenStep portion of Rhapsody altogther. Much in the same way Windows95 is not a real OS, but is merely a stopgap measure until MS can perfect Win NT. There will be a convergence of technology at some point and the real target OS will emerge. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Names Date: 17 Mar 1997 23:48:47 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> References: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> FAQ! FAQ! FAQ! Ok, I feel better now... Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> writes > Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am > a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my > current understanding of the situation: > > 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. It runs on HP's, Sun's > Intel and NeXT. Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And whats > OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on black? OPENSTEP for Mach (new name for NEXTSTEP) runs on Sun, Intel, and NeXT. OPENSTEP for Windows runs on Windows NT (and soon on Win95), providing the same programming interface as OPENSTEP for Mach. > 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the > hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? And > are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to > get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? Not obsolete, just "mature" :-) Actually, 3.3 is a great version of NEXTSTEP, as long as you don't need to run OpenStep based applications. Any applicaton that runs on 3.3 should run on OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. > 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). PDO is a subset of OpenStep that's available for several UNIX platforms (currently Solaris and HP-UX). PDO includes the compiler, runtime environment, and Foundation library. It doesn't include Appkit (the GUI library), nor any applications. EOF is the Enterprise Objects Framework, which provides an object-oriented interface to SQL database (Oracle, Informix, Sybase, etc). > I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I > don't think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. Yeah, I often have trouble finding stuff on there, myself. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DF908.4AEE@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it to stay in the BACKGROUND? That would be SOOO nice. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:28:35 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DFDC1.772A@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <01bc2ff4$d3886bb0$1b2168cf@test1> <AF4E79C3-4F307@207.103.11.189> <webboy-ya02408000R1403970143070001@news.azstarnet.com> <jcr.858341775@idiom.com> <858423677.26839@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hoops@cbc.net wrote: > He could be Mother Fucking Theresa for all I care. He should just > shut-up and port the damn apps. Illustrator is already done for > NeXTSTEP, dust off the disks and release it. As for the other apps, if > his developers are all so tired after porting everything to Windows, why > don't they go out and buy Tiffany, Paste-Up and a plethora of other > NeXTSTEP apps and repackage them as Adobe apps for Rhapsody? LOL! ;) Well said. Some ople look at things in such a narrow perspective. If Adobe rewrites, they have the Win 32 versions DONE! Just include OPENSTEP runtimes... I'm not so sure about this Adobe CEO... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: Digital Cameras and NeXT Message-ID: <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 21:24:33 GMT The digital cameras come usually with a special cable (for Mac or PC) and some special software for downloading and display of the pictures. My problem is that I do neither own a Mac nor a PC. Does anyone know of a digital camera which work with a black NeXT cube? I.e. a camera which can transfer data via SCSI or serial port, and uses a data format which is understood by my machine (any format, which the ImageViewer.app can handle)? Any other experiences with digital cameras which I should know of? Regards Olaf
From: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 04:49:59 GMT Organization: GRPR, École Polytechnique de Montréal Distribution: world Message-ID: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> In article <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230>, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves >Hervé) wrote: > >> Adobe has been doing quite well without the business of NeXT users. Why >> should your threat bother Adobe and Warnock? > > And he'd be nothing but a footnote in computer history if not for Apple >users. He has to keep Apple users happy, and with NeXTSTEP being the next >Apple OS, that means keeping NeXT people happy too. > Only if the large majority of Mac users make the switch to Rhapsody. The NeXT team seems to be betting on the fact that Mac users are mindless followers of Apple. Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! So, if everything I am interested in running is going to be running on top (or is it within?) the blue box, what should be my motivation for switching from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac side was crap and that there was something better in NeXT's bag of tricks (and it is not over yet: I am ready to bet that, by the time Rhapsody gets out, QuickDraw3D will by history too). What we are being promised is the NeXT OS running on a PowerPC and the MacOS running in a virtual machine next to it. But, since Avie and his pals want to be nice with us Mac wusses, we may get a single menu bar and right-side scroll bars, if we ask politely for it. So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of a True (TM) modern operating system". Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. (2) Because if we don't, then Apple will die, and we will all be sad. This argument might have worked for me a few years back. Now, I see that Apple is just a bunch of shareholders and a management team. Nothing against the shareholders, but I am not buying a computer or OS just to improve their profits. (3) Because it is where the Mac is headed and if Rhapsody flops, it is the end of the Mac. For me, the Mac is Tempo/Allegro. Whatever is running in the blue box might be that too, but it is not anything *more*. Anyway, Rhapsody *is* the end of the Mac as we know it, whether it succeeds or not, and whether it is a good thing or not that the Mac is coming to an end. Rhapsody is about as much a Mac as a latter day "Mustang" is a continuation of the original. Rhapsody is a new thing, no matter what it is called, and the only question is whether we like this new thing or not. (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. There are still alternatives to Wintel. Namely the Unix world, and if I really have to go for a Unix box, I would rather choose an SGI than Rhapsody. At least, it does not pretend to be what it is not (a Mac). (5) Rhapsody is a kick ass OS that will take the world by storm. Whatever. In all likelyhood, 2 years from now, only a fraction of what is left of Mac users will switch to Rhapsody (I would not count on current Wintel users at first). So, it is all a matter of how big a fraction of how big a remaining market. You can't help if Adobe, Corel, Macromedia, and others are checking the odds before making any kind of commitment. All this is a matter of opinion. If you think that Rhapsody, as it has been presented, is great, then good for you. I for one hope that enough software biggies such as Adobe ostensibly drag their feet before porting their stuff to Rhapsody unless some parts of what we call the MacOS today make their way to the yellow box (of course, I do not count on Adobe to ask for OpenDoc to be ported to the yellow box). Some may call that perverting the yellow box. Well, then, I am for perversion all the way. :-) regards, j-y hervé [eagerly waiting for Tempo and Allegro, and the next two years of Mac OS experience] -- =================================================================== Jean-Yves Hervé /\ Département de génie électrique \/ e-mail --> jyh@ai.polymtl.ca et génie informatique /\ Ecole Polytechnique \/ Tel. --> (514) 340-5785 Montréal (Québec) /\ Fax. --> (514) 340-5802 CANADA, H3C 3A7 \/ ===================================================================
From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 18 Mar 1997 06:44:47 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (V-WAVE) Message-ID: <5gldkv$a5s10@crash.videotron.ab.ca> References: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> In-Reply-To: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> On 03/17/97, "Michael Chan" wrote: >How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply >automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? MessageQuoter.bundle does this elegantly for Mail 3.3. It adds a "Quote Message" button to the compose window. See your local NeXT archive, or I'll send it by NXMail if you can't find it. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Want to print selection from Edit Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 09:32:40 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <332C0488.2306@worldbank.org> References: <5gao7k$48m@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Finton wrote: > I know how to open a second window, paste the selection, > save it, and then print it. I want an easier way. > This is for when you're working on a huge file, and just > want to print out one or two screens of it. Here's something I've often wished was a standard part of the UI: each print panel, in addition to the page range choices, should have a 'selection' choice so that if something is selected, I could print just that. Just like Terminal.app has. Something Rhapsody UI designers might want to think about... -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:25:08 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting > up I have started typing in another window, resulting in a random stream of > characters suddenly being diverted into the activated app, with at best a > series of error bells and at worst all kind of unintended action. Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? regards, erik -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Erik Dörnenburg OBJECT FACTORY Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH http://www.object-factory.com
From: jack@radionics.com (Jack Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:22:06 -0500 Organization: RSA Distribution: world Message-ID: <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. xxx hj xxx
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Digital Cameras and NeXT Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 17:54:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <858707692.20276.0@mozart.onestep.co.uk> References: <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> In article <E77I4x.1Bw@orest.escape.de> olaf@orest.escape.de writes: > The digital cameras come usually with a special cable (for Mac or PC) and some > special software for downloading and display of the pictures. > My problem is that I do neither own a Mac nor a PC. > Does anyone know of a digital camera which work with a black NeXT cube? I.e. a > camera which can transfer data via SCSI or serial port, and uses a data format > which is understood by my machine (any format, which the ImageViewer.app can > handle)? > Any other experiences with digital cameras which I should know of? > Hi, Most of the digital cameras that are aimed at the consumer/low end market come with serial cables or PCMCIA cards. The images are encoded using proprietary colour compression techniques which the manufacturers are loath to give out. Some of the high spec models ($5,000+) come with Serial, SCSI and/or PCMCIA and do offer raw images which have not been compressed/encoded but you have to write the software to capture and encapsulate the image in an appropriate format such as tiff. We developed software for the Kodak DC40/50 models but the source libraries changed twice whilst we were doing the work and as our target deployment machines were over 50% OPENSTEP/NT we decided to use the NT supplied software. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" or "Mime" mail. Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages always get replied to in NeXTMail. Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yu-Wen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problem Solved (sort of): The service of Open Sesame does not work Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:37:17 GMT Organization: The University of Arizona Message-ID: <5gmjsd$nmm@news.ccit.arizona.edu> I posted the following questions couple days ago to csns. But got no response so far. So I decided to do some tests. After repeated creating/deleting new accounts and meanwhile adding applications to the dock, I finally got the following STRANGE solution. SYMPTOM: The services of Open Sesame and TeXview are all dimmed. SOLUTION: It was caused by putting TeXmenu icon onto OPENSTEP 4.1 dock. To get those services back, just remove TeXmenu from the dock and wait for a couple seconds. REASON: Unknown. It has never happened before under 3.3. So, maybe, someone out there can offer a reasonable explanation. BTW, the troubled TeXmenu is pre5.0 ------Original post----- > I just upgraded my system from 3.3 to 4.1 two days ago. In the > beginning, everything seems working well for me, however, without any > reason (at least I don't know), suddenly I can not use the service of > Open Sesame anymore. I can still access it if I login either as root or > as me, but it does not work for my own account (all the menu items are > dimmed). Does anyone know the reason? > > BTW, I've also found that Thinner.app is not working under 4.1. Does > anyone know of a workaround of this? -- ---------------- Yuwen Cheng University of Arizona, Math yucheng@math.arizona.edu
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:47:56 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gmkgd$859$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Cc: jack@radionics.com In <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Jack Miller wrote: > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. > > xxx hj xxx > warnock@adobe.com seemed to work for me. I didn't get a reply, but I also didn't get a bounce. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "FJ van Wingerde" <fj@medg.lcs.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 97 13:45:52 +0000 Organization: Harvard University University Information Systems Message-ID: <AF544D19-1811FE6@134.174.31.187> References: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.harvard.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.harvard.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy On Tue, Mar 18, 1997 4:49 AM, Jean-Yves Hervé <mailto:jyh@ai.polymtl.ca> wrote: > So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? > Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". > > Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last > time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy > one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. Well, nobody can speak for you, but I'd like to try to list a very important reason for me, which is closely linked to the reason that doesn't cut it for you here: PMT & Memory Protection. I use my computer to communicate electronically. A lot. I am constantly telnetting, surfing, mailing, reading and printing. And eventhough my apps seem to be perfectly well behaved cooperatively, there are too many instances of dead time where one app or service is collecting its head and blocking all input or making characters drop. Coming from a UNIX background - my first GUI was fwm - bad input queues and machine locking on user input because of bad threading/context-switching is really unacceptable on something I have to enter the new millenium with. It is just plain antiquated and creates a frustrating exprience. Heavy duty networking also always introduces a degree of instability because you can't really predict what on earth is out on the network now, with its DNS lookups and timeouts and huge gifs and big code. It would be really nice if all apps omnisciently would catch all the problems gracefully while giving each-other equal time to the resources, but they don't, and they sometimes crash, and the fact that they take the machine down with them is also unacceptable in an increasingly networked world. I am now a Mac user, my workhorse is an 8100/100 for which I went out and bought 7.6 and now think loving thoughts to every day. If you can look at the application sending this response, you might get an inkling that I am by no means an Apple basher - hell, my computer *listens* to me these days, and is pretty stable. But coming where I come from, some slow-downs that this machine imposes on me are just ludicrous. I understand thoroughly as a UI person where they came from and how they evolved and were justified at the time, but it is now 1997, and they have to go. I have to much work to do to let them stay. FJ!!
From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Improv look-alike Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 11:30:24 -0700 Organization: RR Message-ID: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel?
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: LAPACK Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:36:37 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gmucl$pki@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> In article <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: > I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch > of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's > ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. > Any insite will be greatly appreciated. I'd suggest that you use octave, which includes a nice user-front end to many (most?) of LAPACK's functions. That is, unless you REALLY like using the raw fortran routines... (-; You can find it at your nearest friendly ftp archive site (like ftp.next.peak.org). -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181551.KAA08039@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 57066cb5d37040609067b6692dec0ccf - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:51:27 -0500 Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 57066cb5d37040609067b6692dec0ccf - Responding To: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Original Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 > Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it > to stay in the BACKGROUND? > > That would be SOOO nice. Well, I do most of my unarchiving at the commandline, and it works quite nicely! However, I realize that (among other things) ranks me among the strange, and so I offer this: a) remember that Opener.app is freeware, and your alternative is the commandline b) drop Denise Howard a note (as I've done here) and let her know that you would appreciate a panel or something letting you know it is done, rather than the folder being opened. As it is now, I believe that Opener.app does 'open $dir/.' (where $dir is the directory of the unarchives package) which should be easy enough to change, allow a preference for ["he said without clue one as to how Opener.app is implemented"] c) of course this is NeXTStep, and you have choices. Using TickleServices is one alternative. d/l it and checkout the "Archive" stuff, which can create/unpack stuff too, like Opener, but is more customizable, which is its purpose. Opener.app's main power is that it does one thing really well: opens anything you throw at it. With increased features come increased bugs..... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: postings archived?? Date: 18 Mar 1997 16:32:58 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:36:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> In-Reply-To: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> On 03/13/97, MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much > to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a > workaround for this? > Yes, I got my machine working thanks to a useful pointer from Paul Lynch... The Adaptec2940AU is not officially supported by the current NEXTSTEP drivers: the driver information table, however, includes the "Auto Detect IDs" for the PCI devices. The ID for the AU is missing: I simply added 0x61789004 to the list and it seems to work fine. However, note that you have to follow the instructions given in NeXTAnswers for installing an updated driver, but with the Floppy driver to be loaded from the Core Drivers disk (image downloadable from ftp.next.com) rather than from the Devices directory (a difference apparently between 3.2 and 3.3). Once it boots you have to patch the driver that has been installed. I hope this gives enough for you to get going? Sorry it's not more clear on this occasion. Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181530.KAA07808@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:29:52 -0500 Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - Responding To: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Original Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:33:28 GMT Message-ID: f7c14064913bb164a9a637ff1ce33c0c - > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the > active window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver > (activating Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. PopOver does not have to make Mail.app key, I believe. Check the preferences to turn off "Notify Mail.app" or something of that nature. Can't help with the others, although I would say that LaunchBar: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LaunchBar.1.00.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/LaunchBar.1.00.README is a very nice app that may help you. I love it and use it all day. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> Cc: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps but native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. Didn't he get the message or is Warnock's talk a bit out of context? -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: jlang@ptbo.igs.net (John Lang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:05:00 -0500 Organization: Zip By's International Message-ID: <AF5489CC9668F96A@ttya1e.ptbo.igs.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> In article <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15>, jyh@ai.polymtl.ca (Jean-Yves Hervé) wrote: >So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? >Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. I would add to your list: 6) Emagic moves to yellow box: Whiz bang OS isn't just about graphic apps - if emagic moves logic to the yellow box - a good half of the mac music community will follow - the other half if digidesign (usually slower to react) moves over - its hard to imagine these 2 players not being tempted to solve their biggest problem: system stability. 7) Apple ensures that new releases of Claris and a few other personal productivity apps grow mainly in the yellow box. Easy to do with Claris, at any rate. This is essential to convince the large majority of Mac users to use rhapsody over os8. Thinking in terms of high end use only will relegate rhapsody to the position next now occupies: respected but marginal. cheers
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 18 Mar 1997 20:51:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gmv8i$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: > Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct > formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all > the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which > is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel? Improv was the first spreadsheet program that I really liked. I hate standard spreadsheet setups. Look for Quantrix, from Lighthouse Design (which is now a part of Sun). They may not talk a lot about being NeXTSTEP developers on their web pages, but Quantrix is just one of several very fine applications that they have for NeXTSTEP. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:00:01 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn6ph$gvs@shelob.afs.com> References: <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert writes > I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the > official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps > but native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. You asked a salesman a question at a trade show, and you believed the answer? My goodness, you're ... courageous ... or something ... -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy From: simpson@post.drexel.edu (Homer Simpson) Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 18:07:49 -0500 References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> Organization: Drexel University In article <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > 'pay for the ports'. > > He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. Sounds familiar. I said this back in January when the DPS vs GX war was going on. It is interesting that everyone seems to be saying "I'll take my business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe for NT. I hope the comments were out of context and that Adobe will port but if they don't that is two major players in the Mac market that have not committed to Rhapsady, Micorsoft being the other. Unfortunately if these two key players do not jump on board and have shipping products within 3 months of Rhapsady's release I am afraid Rhapsady will enjoy the same sales success as NextStep did.
From: deniseh@best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:10:23 GMT Message-ID: <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> Erik Doernenburg (erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com) wrote: : Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure : that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active : without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as the default app for the given file extension. Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" and "background". Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:37:45 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gn5fp$el6$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> <5gched$iqe@agate.berkeley.edu> <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <5gn2ge$7dc$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > I asked today on the CeBIT fair in Hannover a guy from Adobe about the > official line about porting their apps to Rhapsody (not as blue box apps but > native OpenStepized). He told me they will do it. > > Didn't he get the message or is Warnock's talk a bit out of context? > > According to the version of this thread over in comp.sys.next.advocacy, Warnock replied to some of the people who sent him email and said the quote was taken out of context. He's not interested in compromising the yellow box, just making it easier to do a port from blue box to yellow, and not have to do a flat out rewrite. That doesn't exactly fit with what the fair rep said, but it's close enough that there's probably some underlying truth to one or both statements. And I'm glad to hear that that's the case :-) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase 4.1 and NS3.3???? Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:25:29 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com> Will they work together? -Darren
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: postings archived?? Date: 18 Mar 1997 23:18:30 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. > > Chris <cchris@hooked.net> Check out: http://www.stepwise.com/ The next newsgroups (except for advocacy) used to be archived there. I'm not sure if they still are. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181536.KAA07881@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:36:33 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - Responding To: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Original Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:24:37 GMT Message-ID: df1daf56674ef7feca059b7aeae6df0d - > How to use the NeXTMail to quote the last message in the reply > automatically? Or do we have to do it all manually? If you have NS3.3 or greater: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.README Else you can use some TickleService or some other mail utility I can't remember the name of... it might be ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/MailHelper.1.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz let me know if you need a pre3.3 way of doing this and can't find it. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:37:05 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: world Message-ID: <0n=p5Fm00iWVAGKDIs@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> In-Reply-To: <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 18-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by Jean-Yves Herv@ai.polym > Only if the large majority of Mac users make the switch to Rhapsody. The > NeXT team seems to be betting on the fact that Mac users are mindless > followers of Apple. I don't follow this. NeXT didn't buy Apple; Apple bought NeXT. Apple is making the decisions for what goes on, not "the NeXT team". The most highly placed former NeXT employee is Avie Tevanian, I believe, and he reports to Gil Amelio. Who else would _you_ have chosen to design Apple's new operating system? Can you name anyone who would be more competent than Avie in that area? > Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! > So, if everything I am interested in running is going to be running on top > (or is it within?) the blue box, what should be my motivation for switching > from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? There are several reasons which I could think of, but whether they are enough to convince you is another matter. For some people, especially those who have low memory systems, it's likely that you would be happier with the future Mac OS revisions. 1) Better applications. Given equivalent development efforts, you will get a better, more functional, more robust, more portable, and more maintainable application when your developers write code using Obj-C and OPENSTEP then they would writing code using the development tools currently available for the Mac. 2) A better operating system. The obvious list include PMT, memory protection, working VM, working distributed objects, a far more stable OS, multiuser capabilities, remote display capabilities, better networking, a command line, Unix, a better GUI, better app interoperativity. The majority of Mac users are interested in such things, except possibly a few Taligent, Copland, and/or QD/GX advocates who refuse to acknowledge any of the above as advantages. Tell me, precisely what are you guys looking for from a new OS? I'd love to see you tell us now and then we'll all see how well Rhapsody competes with the Mac OS a year or so from now. > Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their > groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac > side was crap No, not everything Apple has done is crap. AppleTalk was decent, and it's held up much better than NetBIOS and NetBEUI have. The Mac Finder is one of the best GUI environments around, although I'm firmly convinced that the NeXT Workspace is superior. And the Mac OS has been one of the most user-friendly and consistent environments around; heck, the MacOS is better than even NEXTSTEP in this regard sometimes. However, it's still quite true that in other areas, Apple's OS software is completely inferior by any reasonable standards. The lack of PMT, memory protection, and working VM is inexcusable. Anyone with a degree in Computer Science is expected to be able to design and implement a better foundation for an OS then that; at least here at CMU, the first OS course, 15-412, explicitly goes over some of the design flaws of the Mac OS and MS-DOS/Windows, and requires you to do a better job. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Names Date: 19 Mar 1997 03:58:08 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gno8g$iee@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <332CEA46.6F40@earthlink.net> <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> Cc: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM In <5gkl8v$gvd@news.next.com> Mark Bessey wrote: > FAQ! FAQ! FAQ! > > Ok, I feel better now... > > Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> writes some Q & A left out I attempted to answer this when it was asked in c.s.n.misc, before seeing Mark Bessey's reply in c.s.n.s. He _knows_ what he's talking about; so I'll defer to him... -rick
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 22:12:36 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332F679E.14E2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Denise Howard wrote: > Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become > active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a > file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener > yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can > be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as > the default app for the given file extension. With Opener, I'm talking about when you use OmniWeb, and it hands the .tar.gz file, for instance, off to Opener and then it wants to interupt my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded. This is highly annoying IMO. > Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" > and "background". Again, I would like Opener to NOT want to interupt my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded - but have the option in preferences, because some people may want the feature... Thanks for listening! Opener is VERY cool! How about a Linux version? :) -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Sybase 4.1 and NS3.3???? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:12:42 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001803972312420001@news.tiac.net> References: <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5gnbpp$scm$1@news2.voicenet.com>, dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) wrote: > Will they work together? Fired it up once out of curiosity. No crashes, but then, I didn't use it for anything. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: colin@snaefell.tamu.edu (Colin Allen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pgp on 4.x Date: 19 Mar 1997 06:14:03 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station Message-ID: <5go07b$se3@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 19 Mar 1997 06:14:03 GMT I recently recompiled pgp.2.6.2 under OS 4.0 with no problems during compilation, but there is a problem at run time. During key creation or cipherfile decoding, pgp bombs with a message "received signal 11" (i.e., a segmentation fault). Has anyone successfully compiled pgp for 4.x, or does anyone have a clue what might be the problem here? Thanks! -- Colin Allen http://snaefell.tamu.edu/~colin/
From: rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:24:08 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gnbn8$svl@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Cc: jyh@ai.polymtl.ca In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:01:03 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5go6fv$a3c$1@news.xmission.com> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <332F679E.14E2@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> wrote: > With Opener, I'm talking about when you use OmniWeb, and it hands the > .tar.gz file, for instance, off to Opener and then it wants to interupt > my web browsing to show me the files are done being decoded. This is > highly annoying IMO. The problem is the last event that occurs in the sequence. 1. Click a link in OmniWeb 2. OmniWeb downloads file 3. OmniWeb calls Opener with the file 4. Opener unpacks the file 5. Opener calls Workspace with the unpacked file 6. WorkSpace opens a new browser on the file (if a directory) or the file itself 7. Workspace becomes key. Since 2-6 can take a while, the typical users goes on browsing. Sunndenly, as you're reading some page somewhere, the Workspace pre-empts you and boom OmniWeb is no longer the app with focus. What is needed is either (1) a way to defer opening of the files in Workspace until we ask for them or (2) a way to have Workspace open a browser window without forcing itself to become key. I'd prefer (2), and I've always felt that Workspace was a bad citizen in this respect. So the question becomes one of finding a way to work around Wrokspace's behavior to make it look like it is doing (2) even though it doesn't want to. I suspect that (1) is all we can do until/unless NeXT/Apple change Workspace's behavior. Hope that's clearer. I went to the trouble of spelling this out, because it annoys me, too, so I want to make sure that the problem is understood by those with the power to do something about it. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 04:36:42 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <332FB3AA.17D9@smart.net> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> <5gn7cv$r1e$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Denise Howard <deniseh@best.com> > : Alexandra does this? I mean, I'm one of the programmers and I know for sure > : that we didn't implement anything that makes Alexandra become active > : without explicit request from the user. Or am I missing a point here? > > Ditto for me and Opener! There are only three ways for Opener to become > active, and they all require explicit user action: 1) double-clicking on a > file which has an extension recognized by Opener, 2) launching Opener > yourself, 3) dropping a file onto Opener's running app icon. Option 1 can > be avoided if you really want to, by selecting some other application as > the default app for the given file extension. > > Perhaps I'm missing the same point as Erik about what is meant by "active" > and "background". I'm not speaking for him, but I think what he means is, that when you start a process with one of those apps and run it in the background, when it completes the process or when it needs your attention to continue, a message will come to the foreground to make the announcement. --Greg
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTMail - Quoting Replies Date: 19 Mar 1997 09:36:22 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc3445$23351380$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc330f$eedb3280$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5gldkv$a5s10@crash.videotron.ab.ca> I used the TickleServices but would someone give me instructions on how to do the quote? There is no help on the procedures on how to quote. When I click my mail, the Quote option is not highlighted even though I have selected the text from the preceding mail and set it as quote String. Michael Chan
From: gjvo@xs4all.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: 19 Mar 1997 07:25:29 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <5go4d9$r92$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5glqi4$s8u@leonie.object-factory.com> My excuses - Alexandra does not do this. I habitually launch Alexandra through LaunchBar, and LaunchBar makes the app it launches key. Off-hand, I do not see a preference option to turn this off. Greetings, Geert Jan van Oldenborgh -- mail: gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: tfs@gravity.science.gmu.edu ( Tim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SoftPC4.1:Latest patches? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 18 Mar 1997 11:36:16 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va. Sender: tfs------@gravity.science.gmu.edu (remove dashes to reply) Message-ID: <5glung$6ja@portal.gmu.edu> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Summary: can we say eww? ;) In article <E76voq.326@cam-ani.co.uk>, Ian Stephenson <ians@cam-ani.co.uk> wrote: >In article <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> >writes: > >Nextspc4.1p1.Z is 4.1->4.1p1. It fixes a bug with some winsock ioctls. The >only thing it is known to fix is in the notifier app for the bug tracking >systen Clarify. (It just so happens that both Insignia, and one of the >Insignia's biggest NeXTStep customers both chose clarify - they were dead >impressed that we were able to get it all turned round so quickly!) > >There is a latter more signifigant patch 1001, which takes 4.1->4.1p1001 >(ignore the number it just means that it was patch for the customer with >issue number 1001, its nothing to do with p1). This is a much larger >change which fixes a number of other networking bugs. (particularly Lotus >Notes IV, though it may break other things - it's really intended for a >customer who needed to run Notes4). Yes, it can break other things, but not that many and stuff like Clarify runs great, I can't think of one really critical thing it broke actually. And I think it probably fixed more than Notes 4. > >Unfortunatly I don't have a copy of 4.1p1001. This is particularly >annoying as I need to run NotesIV! It is not available via insignia's ftp >site, though it once was. They appear to have "tidied up", and this patch >got lost somewhere. If anyone DOES have a copy of p1001 (and the >associated winsock.dll) I'd love to get a copy (it only works with >licensed versions of 4.1 so I don't think licensing is an issue, but thats >just my opinion). Hi Ian, I'll try and dig it up for you, I belive I may have it around someplace. Drop me some mail, my address is: tfs@mystic.magik.net, or anything else that's in my .sig. Tim -- ________________________________________________________________ tfs@vampire.science.gmu.edu (NeXTmail, MIME) Tim Scanlon tfs@epic.org (PGP key aval.) crypto is good Play Mystic: mystic.magik.net 3000
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:25:58 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu>, Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> wrote: > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > > a look." > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > > Your absolutly right. > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > context in the original article. > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? Please send a letter to Adobe (they have a feedback form on their web page). They need to hear in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that they need Rhapsody to work without being kludged. However, given the quality of media reporting, keep in mind that this could all be trash brought up by the FUDsters, so be nice. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta joe.ragosta@dol.net See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM (Holger Hoffstaette) Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Sender: news@flop.schwaben.de Organization: NeXT Ghetto People feat. St.Eve Message-ID: <E79Du6.2wI@flop.schwaben.de> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 21:46:54 GMT Kevin R Gue wrote: > I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was > this: > - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris > - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, > Diagram, etc.) > - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. Did the person say what they *are* going doing all day, then? I mean, if they're not porting the apps to OpenStep - which would effectively mean a rewrite, since the apps are already quite old and have some serious bugs - what? Just screaming 'Java, Java' at the top of their lungs is all fine and certainly politically correct, but at leat *some* kind of official opinion would be much better than this silence. At least they submitted JavaPlan for Mach to the FTP archives. For reasons beyond my understanding, they do not mention any Mach products on their (partially broken) web pages. Message to Lighthouse: do or do not - but do not hesitate, either way. Holger -- hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM LOAD "MACH_KERNEL",8,1
From: "Norbert Pfaff" <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 19 Mar 97 09:25:57 +0100 Message-ID: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.she.de/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.she.de/comp.sys.mac.advocacy >Are all these big image processing houses going to make the >switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe >for NT. With PPC=B4s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for the next future, they will not easily going to NT. Norbert Pfaff --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: gnu.gnustep.discuss,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Java, a GNUdream? Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:18:33 GMT Message-ID: <5gp3kp$ono@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Why not implementing an OpenStep Environment in Java? The OpenStep API is the only up to date specification for "look- and feel" of an whole desktop. There are already a few implemtations of this non-proprietary environment: OPENSTEP/mach , OPENSTEP/NT, Solaris OpenStep. Some more are likely to come: GNUStep,Rhapsody. With some companies trying to establish a form of computer terminals, called "Network Computer"s, there is a need for a good API standard, like OpenStep. As this NCs are baised on Webclients or Java, what about: A Java Frontend to GNUStep. Maybe someone could coment on, if this would be technically possible in acceptable speed in the near future. But remeber: it would possibly be enough, if only the Windowserver runs in Java, having all the real computing done in the main server. (Just like Applix-anyware, the first(?) office system for Java.) Maybe it would be enough, if only the mouse movements and the resulting graphics would be translated to the Java/OpenStep/frontend. Did no one thought about that? Were is the free project taking up the task? >;-> Bernhard Reiter
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:26:49 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5gc5uu$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Mar 19 16:04:36 1997 Original subject was: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:13:09 -0500 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Message-ID: <maury-1903971113090001@199.166.204.230> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> In article <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu>, simpson@post.drexel.edu (Homer Simpson) wrote: > business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a > difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the > switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe > for NT. Depends on how fast it is. If it's lots faster, they won't. Maury
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: gnu.gnustep.discuss,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Java, a GNUdream? Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:37:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5gp4p2$svn$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5gp3kp$ono@fu-berlin.de> In comp.sys.next.software Bernhard Reiter <breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE> wrote: : The OpenStep API is the only up to date specification for "look- and : feel" of an whole desktop. There are already a few implemtations of : this non-proprietary environment: OPENSTEP/mach , OPENSTEP/NT, : Solaris OpenStep. Some more are likely to come: GNUStep,Rhapsody. OpenStep doesn't specify look and feel. Neither OPENSTEP/NT nor GNUstep currently resemble the NeXT look and feel seen in 3.3, and there's a good chance Rhapsody won't either. : With some companies trying to establish a form of computer : terminals, called "Network Computer"s, there is a need for a good : API standard, like OpenStep. As this NCs are baised on Webclients or : Java, what about: I suspect Apple, down the road, will push NXHosting into some form of NC (we call them X-terminals) in the future. [snip] A Java PostScript interpreter would be very cool. : Did no one thought about that? : Were is the free project taking up the task? >;-> Well, you've already got a free Java VM which runs on 15 or so platforms, a free Java compiler, a free implementation of Foundation and parts of AppKit, a free database library. Don't you have a compiler? :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Lighthouse abandoned Openstep apps? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 09:52:05 -0700 Organization: RR Message-ID: <333019B5.4AFC@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> References: <19970314010101.UAA04249@ladder01.news.aol.com> <5gbtun$g52@nps.navy.mil> <E79Du6.2wI@flop.schwaben.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > > Kevin R Gue wrote: I agree. I can't understand why Lighthouse/Sun will not just tell us what is going on. Why should it be a secret? Specifically, I want to know if we will be able to get the former NeXt-Lighthouse apps for Openstep Solaris, or for any other environment. I would like to buy Diagram, Quantrix, Equation_Builder, and perhaps one or two others. > > I received a return call from the Lighthouse folks this week. The word was > > this: > > - Lighthouse will *not* port the Academic bundle to Openstep for Solaris > > - They *may* port individual components to Openstep for Solaris (Concurrence, > > Diagram, etc.) > > - My caller gave no dates or guarantees. > > Did the person say what they *are* going doing all day, then? > I mean, if they're not porting the apps to OpenStep - which would > effectively mean a rewrite, since the apps are already quite old > and have some serious bugs - what? > Just screaming 'Java, Java' at the top of their lungs is all fine > and certainly politically correct, but at leat *some* kind of official > opinion would be much better than this silence. > At least they submitted JavaPlan for Mach to the FTP archives. > For reasons beyond my understanding, they do not mention any > Mach products on their (partially broken) web pages. > Message to Lighthouse: do or do not - but do not hesitate, > either way. > > Holger > -- > hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM LOAD "MACH_KERNEL",8,1
From: teb@eng.cam.ac.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: specfp92 Date: 19 Mar 1997 20:12:11 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gphar$si1@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Hi, would anyone know about how I can test the specint92 and specfp92 of my (Intel) processor? Cheers, Thomas --- Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. NeXT-Mail welcome, PGP-2.6.i key available.
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:29:48 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319122802.7543C-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1403971425580001@news.dol.net> On Fri, 14 Mar 1997, Joe Ragosta wrote: > In article <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu>, > Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> wrote: > > > On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > > > > > > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > > > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > > > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > > > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, > take > > > a look." > > > > > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should > continue his > > > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. > > > > > > Your absolutly right. > > > > I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of > > context in the original article. > > > > It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and > > Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects > > integration for instance. These are two companies combining some > > powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why > > would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? > > Please send a letter to Adobe (they have a feedback form on their web > page). They need to hear in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS that they need Rhapsody to > work without being kludged. > > However, given the quality of media reporting, keep in mind that this could > all be trash brought up by the FUDsters, so be nice. Thanks. I did. He (Warnock) replied. It was. I'm sure you'll find the post. Robb
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:39:58 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319123716.7543D-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Homer Simpson wrote: > In article <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com>, jon@subsequent.com wrote: > > > Robb Lincoln wrote: > > > > > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > > > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. > > > > He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: > > Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help > > 'pay for the ports'. > > > > He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and > > expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. > > > > He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to > > make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money. > > Sounds familiar. I said this back in January when the DPS vs GX war was > going on. It is interesting that everyone seems to be saying "I'll take my > business elsewhere.". I think that is great but will it make enough of a > difference? Are all these big image processing houses going to make the > switch? I think not, they would most likely switch to NT 4.0 and use Adobe > for NT. > > I hope the comments were out of context and that Adobe will port but if > they don't that is two major players in the Mac market that have not > committed to Rhapsady, Micorsoft being the other. Unfortunately if these > two key players do not jump on board and have shipping products within 3 > months of Rhapsady's release I am afraid Rhapsady will enjoy the same > sales success as NextStep did. It looks like they were taken out of context. I fully believe steaking to Me. Warnock that Adobe fully intends to be in the Yellow Box when the Unified Rhapsody Ships.
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:24:54 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319120951.7543B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <332EBFE2.27AB@utk.edu> On Tue, 18 Mar 1997, Paul Wallace wrote: > Jack Miller wrote: > > > > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. > > On my Feeding Frenzy site (http://www.clever.net/wallace/frenzy/) where > we address the media's coverage of Apple, NeXT, and PowerPC; I posted > the address warnock@adobe.com as the place to send feedback about this > discussion. > > I heard back from a couple of visitors who apparently received replies > from John Warnock this past week. One of the replies reads: > > --begin quote-- > > ...The quote you saw was taken out of a very long discussion. Adobe is > arguing for features IN the Yellow box that would minimize the porting > effort. We do not want to cripple the Yellow box in any way, but want an > environment where we can do a port rather than a rewrite. > > I hope this helps. > > J Warnock > > --end quote-- > > I have no reason to believe that this is a fake, it seems from these > remarks that the article in the San Francisco Examiner took the original > quote out of context (can you believe that?..) I recieved a similar message which I posted here this morning: **begin quote** Robb: The quote that was attributed to me was out of context. We have NOT asked Apple to compromise the Yellow Box. The last thing we want is to move backwards. There are some things Apple could do to make the porting job much easier for all application developers. These changes would optimize their chance of success. Many of our customers use the Mac 12 to 18 hours a day in a production environment. Having a smooth transition to the new OS is manditory for those customers (just like the Power PC transition). We all want Apple to succeed. Adobe is trying to maximize that probability through working with Apple to build a successful plan. John Warnock **end quote** It would seem to be a concern of Warnocks that the transition be made as easy as possible, which is not unreasonable. I believe that this is not an attempt to "muscle" Apple. There is no theat of NOT porting to the Yellowbox which would be the "stick" end of the threat. Instead Warnock is angling for the best transition to the new API. I firmly believe that Adobe will be on board when the Unified Release ships. Of course I'm sure others will read the tea leaves differently, and that is OK. Only time will tell tale. Paul has the right Idea...Please don't do anything rash (like dumping your stock in Adobe) bassed on the that Paragon of Jurnalistic Virtue AKA the San Francisco Examiner.
From: Douglas Hardman <dhardman@accessicg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: REQ: Openstep help? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:35:20 +0000 Organization: ICG Message-ID: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. Is there somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of dollars on the OS. Is there support for it anywhere? I have alot of questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! -- Virtual Regards, Douglas Hardman Programming Director / MIS Interactive Concepts Group http://www.accessicg.com dhardman@accessicg.com
From: mike allison <mallison@konnections.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: want NeXT 3.2/3.3 & Developer (Motorola) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 17:55:07 -0700 Organization: Publisher -- Burning Eagle Book Company Message-ID: <3331DC6B.577CFAA8@konnections.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey: Anyone know where I can get a copy of either NeXT OS 3.2 or 3.3 and the Developer? Used is fine... Hell, just about anything is fine... Please email details to me at: mallison@konnections.com I'm also interested in purchasing a highend publishing package for the same OS (Frame...., etc) Thanks, -Mike
From: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: getting sendmail to send Date: 19 Mar 1997 22:08:47 GMT Organization: Exis Net Inc Message-ID: <5gpo5f$p3h@grouper.exis.net> I'm still strugling to get my new NeXTStation up and running as I'd like it. I am using GateKeeper and ppp2.2 to connect. It's working fine and I got OmniWeb to work, so I know the connection is good. I'd like to use Mail.app to do do email. I'm using PopOver to get the mail from my ISP, and recieving works fine. So here's the problem: I followed the help file in PopOver about setting up to send and modified sendmail.cf to include the ISP mail server. When I tell Mail.app to deliver the mail, the send data light on the modem flashes, so I know something is happening. The mail that I send though never get delivered. (ie, if I send something to myself, I never get it back.) Does anyone have any ideas/pointers. BTW I'm using NS3.3 and the included sendmail. Do I have to use a newer version of sendmail? Thanks, Jason
From: whale4me@aol.com (Whale4Me) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Notebook App Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:56:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970319235601.SAA23502@ladder01.news.aol.com> We use Notebook very heavily. Does anyone know where I can reach Scott Love (or anyone) of Millenium OR if they sold the source code to someone? Is there something similar that runs on Windows95 or NT? Thanks for your help. Please response directly to whale4me@aol.com
From: rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenDOC equivalent in NEXTSTEP/ OPENSTEP? Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:41:17 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <5gncnd$lhk@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All: Now that OpenDOC is put to rest, I was wondering what kind of equivalent exists in the NeXT world. From what I have used, OpenDOC is nice. I used to put together graphics, text into a container document, and I'll be able to edit any of them individually, etc., etc. Anyways, the simple question is: is there a equivalent architecture within NEXTSTEP/ OPENSTEP? Compound documents, with each piece having its own features, menus, and what not. Thanks for any info you can provide! -Ravi
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 20 Mar 1997 00:31:00 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1903971833560001@thebook.on-demand.com> References: <publicist-1303971742370001@thebook.on-demand.com> <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ In article <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk>, mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: > On 03/13/97, MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > > I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much > > to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a > > workaround for this? > > > Yes, I got my machine working thanks to a useful pointer from Paul Lynch... > > The Adaptec2940AU is not officially supported by the current NEXTSTEP > drivers: the driver information table, however, includes the "Auto Detect > IDs" for the PCI devices. The ID for the AU is missing: I simply added > 0x61789004 > to the list and it seems to work fine. I recieved a similar response too.... thanks to everyone who helped! Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
From: drifterusa@macconnect.com (John Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 23:58:45 -0600 Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: > Frankly, if I had ever wanted a bloody NeXT box, I would have bought one! I can't speak for you, of course, but frankly, I don't *know* if I would have ever wanted a NeXT box. When they first came out, they were way out of my price range. Since then, they have not attained mainstream status. I don't think I've ever even seen one. Still, everything I've read about them made them sound interesting at the very least. (Sort of like Be.) If they had been as available and affordable as Macs and Amigas (yes, almost bought one of those), maybe I *would* have bought one. So the prospect of finally seeing this much ballyhooed technology on my Mac I find exciting. > Basically, what we have been hearing from the NeXT folks and their > groupies is that virtually every single piece of OS software on the Mac > side was crap and that there was something better in NeXT's bag of tricks > (and it is not over yet: I am ready to bet that, by the time Rhapsody gets > out, QuickDraw3D will by history too). What we are being promised is the > NeXT OS running on a PowerPC and the MacOS running in a virtual machine > next to it. But, since Avie and his pals want to be nice with us Mac > wusses, we may get a single menu bar and right-side scroll bars, if we ask > politely for it. Yes, it seems that in many ways Rhapsody is turning into a NeXT clone (which may not be a bad thing), but it also seems like Apple is doing the most expedient thing to get their next generation OS out the door. Where two similar technologies compete, they are opting for the already-proven and compatible NeXT option. I hold out some hope that once Rhapsody is shipping and Apple is in better financial health, they will reconsider incorporating some older Mac technologies into it (like OpenDoc). But I have to think that meeting their announced ship dates is crucial right now. (I find it funny that some Mac fans are now adopting an "I'll wait forever as long as I get Copland" stance, forgetting how desperate they were for a modern OS a few months ago.) This past week's news has made me wonder what makes a Mac a Mac, and if the loss of many of Apple's technologies makes it time to admit the Mac is dead. But if I had to point to one thing that makes a Mac what it is, I would have to say it's the user interface. By all accounts, this interface will be fully implemented (perhaps with NeXTian enhancements or options) in Rhapsody. I have to conclude, then, that Rhapsody is a Mac OS. OTOH, I also have to admit that there may come a time when the Mac as we know it ceases to exist. To think otherwise is to refuse to believe that there could ever be something better. > So, let me ask again the question: why move from Tempo/Allegro to Rhapsody? > Here are the possible answers I can think of. None of them cut it for me. > > (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of > a True (TM) modern operating system". > > Well, I for one don't care that much for PMT. As for the rest, the last > time I looked at a NeXT box, years back, it had all that. I did not buy > one back then. Can't see why I should do so now or 2 years from now. Funny, even with my feeble, non-power-user way of working with my Mac, I would enjoy some "modern" underpinnings. The only thing that may keep me from getting them via Rhapsody will be the price. ($100 = yes; $500 = no.) > (2) Because if we don't, then Apple will die, and we will all be sad. If most current Mac users stick with "Classic Mac OS," I don't think it will kill Apple. (I also think this scenario is highly unlikely, though also highly dependent on pricing.) The inability to generate any *new* interest in Rhapsody or Apple-branded computers will kill Apple. > (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. Or, more accurately, Microsoft will have that much more power to single-handedly determine the course of personal computing, needless to say to the detriment of personal computing. > j-y hervé [eagerly waiting for Tempo and Allegro, and the next two years > of Mac OS experience] Depending on how Rhapsody plays out, I wouldn't hold my breath for two more years of Mac OS experience, at least not "improved" Mac OS experience. I can easily envision Tempo being the last of the "Classic Mac" line. After all, once you kill all your promising technologies, what's left to add to the OS?
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Date: 20 Mar 1997 03:00:13 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Message-ID: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with NS3.3. Thanks in advance. da bisk
From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 20 Mar 1997 10:11:04 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it really translates to faster overall system speed... While I understand your point that for many gfx apps raw speed (and stability!) is essential, I'd also say that cross-platform support, 3rd party offerings, using the current (or perceived or perceived forthcoming) standards are essential. This is where Mac leads now in regards to for example Photoshop (or so I believe). But, consider a situation when a gfx app X runs in Blue Box only, with just as much crashing (if not more, due to the nature of being inside Yellow Box) as currently and it runs with much less crashes inside NT v4/5, I could see more people switching over to use that app on that platform, which would result in more 3rd party support in that platform, etc. Of course, the speed issue would be essential too (which means that NT 4/5 version would have to be at least the speed of the comperable Apple/BlueBox product). Definitely the Rhapsody wouldn't crash if the gfx app inside Blue Box would crash, but all those gfx apps running concurrently in Blue Box would go down with blue box (if I've understood the Blue/Yellow Box definition correctly). This is the same as in current MacOS (you have to restart your Blue Box which equals your current MacOS) if you're running only gfx apps for current MacOS (and I don't see many gfx apps coming out native to Yellow box at the time of premium release of Rhapsody, although I'll admit straigth away that it is probably too early to tell). But my point is: things are very vague. There is much "ifs" and "maybes" in the air and they're not doing good for Apple or evangelism of Rhapsody. I'm certainly considering my next computer to be a WinTel one (although the idea is not to my liking) and am telling our school and my company to seriously start reconsidering their dual-platform strategy. I want Apple/Rhapsody to succeed, I can see that they might, but I'm definitely not betting on that. I wish I had the luxury of going with what I know is right, but if I make a financially incorrect decision in regards to platform and OS it is going to cost a lot of money. This is what a lot of IT managers have to think about and regardless of the superiority of competing products it is usually safer to go with the standard one. Just my two pesos worth... Best regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 20 Mar 1997 07:54:38 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5grc2e$nbk@papoose.quick.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> In article <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu>, DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Quantrix is currently the only avaiable product which implements this style of spreadsheet. It differs from Improv in a few stylistic areas, but has the same flavor. Quantrix is from LightHouse. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: hhoff@ultra.media-group.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:34:45 GMT Organization: media group Message-ID: <5grhu5$cs7$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Stephen D. Biskis (bisk@4dcomm.com) wrote: >Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular >disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with >NS3.3. DPT. They rule. Stable and fast as hell. 4 MB cache makes your system run; 16 MB or more (up to 64 possible) make you effectively forget about your hard disk, no matter how slow it is. Holger
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 20 Mar 1997 15:21:39 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5grkm3$mps$1@dropit.pgh.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5gmv8i$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> wrote: > > Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct > > formulas that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all > > the spreadsheets out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which > > is most Improv-like in terms of look and feel? > > Improv was the first spreadsheet program that I really liked. > I hate standard spreadsheet setups. > > Look for Quantrix, from Lighthouse Design (which is now a part > of Sun). They may not talk a lot about being NeXTSTEP > developers on their web pages, but Quantrix is just one of > several very fine applications that they have for NeXTSTEP. > I have Quantrix on my NeXT and I do not like the graphic capabilites. It does not handle discontinuous lines. Improv does this very well I have Improv on Windows 3.1 at the office and Windows NT at home and it "seems" to work fine. However, I have not moved all my stuff from the NeXT yet. This is also a "more advanced" version and offers some things the NeXT didn't; eg, a macro language. Excell 97 allows you to name rows and columns and to use them in formulae. It also offers multiple, linkable worksheets. However, I have not tested it myself yet. Some theing sound great but turn out to have problems when you try to use them; ie, Quantrix. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: smolny@pankow.mpiib-berlin.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.misc,comp.protocols.smb Subject: SAMBA and faxing Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:33:42 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5grhs6$meb$2@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Hi, is there a way to send faxes from i.e. W95 via SAMBA by NeXTSTEP ? (NXFAX or JollyFax). This can be a good way to use a powerfull tool from NeXTSTEP. Have anyone experiences with the HYLAFAX-Client for W$$95 and SAMBA ? please send e-mail reagrds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertram Smolny Fon: ++49 30/2802-6154 MPI f. Infektionsbiologie Fax: ++49 30/2802-6406 Monbijoustr.2 D-10117 Berlin e-mail: smolny@mpiib-berlin.mpg.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Quicktime viewer? Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:08:56 GMT Organization: Princeton University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Originator: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU Can someone point me to a QuickTime viewer for a NextStation, running NS 3.2? Thanks. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Quicktime viewer? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:24:54 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gs9v6$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@zandtwerk.Princeton.EDU In <5grneo$ggu$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > > Can someone point me to a QuickTime viewer for a NextStation, > running NS 3.2? > > Thanks. > > Tim > it's called NEXTIME, it comes on a CD-ROM, so you'll need a CD-ROM drive. There are two versions, the cuurent one is OPENSTEP and won't work for you running 3.2; the previous version 1.0 works fine and looks swell. try contacting NeXT or place a WTB in c.s.n.marketplace for NEXTIME 1.0. Originally it sold for $100, I think. more info perhaps in the faq. -rick
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: REQ: Openstep help? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:38:18 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gsaoa$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Cc: dhardman@accessicg.com In <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Douglas Hardman wrote: > Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. > Is there somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of > dollars on the OS. heh, heh... I don't think downloading is an option here. there is no "demo" version. keep in mind you are talking about higher than average complexity install and many 10s of megabytes of code here. your best bet may be either contacting either a user group, another user, or a NeXT sales rep for some Q&A / demo. with 4.2 due out in a few months, there should be copies of 4.0 on the net soon for far less than the thousands you see yourself spending. the current shippng verion is 4.1. > Is there support for it anywhere? OPENSTEP/MACH is well supported, although 4.0 is one version back. The typical customer is either a student/faculty member buying on heavy discount, and assumed to have access to university sysadmin assistance, or corporate user/developer, also assumed to have access to sysadmin assistance, or ISV developer assumed to supply his/her own sysadmin assistance. there are various pay-for-support plans available directly from NeXT. then there's the c.s.n.* newsgroups ;-) >I have alot of > questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! hope this was of some help. where are you located? see if there is either a user group, NeXT sales office or nearby university that has some NeXTs around, and someone who remembers how they work. ;-) -rick
From: sarlo@tezcat.com (sarlo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Linux/BSD/NeXT? Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:27:57 GMT Organization: Breakfast at Tezcat. Message-ID: <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com> I was wondering if anyone had heard of a port of BSD/Linux for NeXT boxes (680x0's). If so, where can I find info on it, as I think i've pretty much exausted all of the web functions.. -- sarlo@tezcat.com - Sarlykins. | I was lying in bed, looking up at the EXXON - Put a tiger in your | stars when I suddenly thought to myself, tank! And while you're at it, | "Where the fuck did my roof go?" toss in a few dead otters too. | -EXXON Ad, 1989 | Alternatives: sarlo@chinet.com http://www.tezcat.com/~sarlo sarlo@pyrotechnics.com \||// sarlo@2600.com Don'tcha love bongo-.sigs? oO sarlo@blight.com ()^() Pttht. sarlo@ripco.com U /~~~~~~ root@mcs.net
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:18:07 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e913icd34.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> Well it use to be in /usr/adm/nxfax somewhere is this file still on your machine?
From: markfr@markfr .cse.tek.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Openstep on NT Date: 20 Mar 1997 22:05:11 GMT Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR USA Message-ID: <5gscan$qqk$1@bvadm.bv.tek.com> Can anyone tell me more about running Openstep on NT. I have a graphics program that I created on Nextstep 3.3, and I would like to have people be able to run it on NT (it is based on Next's Draw program). My questions: 1. How much effort will it be to port from Nextstep to Openstep? I use views, windows, buttons, etc. 2. Will each of the users have to have Openstep running on their NT station? If so, how much is the user license? 3. Does Openstep just look like another app on NT? How well is it integrated? Any other pointers would be helpful. - Thanks, Mark
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NXFax!!! Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:19:11 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e7mj2cd1c.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <01bc2f68$48789ea0$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5g8ubj$ktq@news4.digex.net> Well it use to be in /usr/adm/nxfax somewhere is this file still on your machine? y
From: nimno@Walden.mo.net (John Bartley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RBrowser startup problem Date: 20 Mar 1997 18:08:27 GMT Organization: -=MO.NET=- MVP-Net, Inc's Missouri Operations Message-ID: <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net> I've been using RBrowser for a long time at home with no problems. However, I can't seem to get very far at the office and don't know what the problem is. As soon as I launch it, an error panel pops up that says: "mkdir failed:Permission denied." OK, I can handle the fix for that, but the question is where is it trying to do the mkdir? There is no feedback in the console to give me a hint as to what it wants to do. The system I'm trying to run it on has no problem that I'm aware of with respect to ownership or permissions that should affect RBrowser. In other words, I don't have trouble running other apps and have been functioning just fine for 4 years here, so I'm perplexed! Of course since RBrowser quits immediately after dismissing the error panel, it makes it kind of hard to read the help to see if there is anything mentioned there about this situation. The only thing that I can think of is that my home directory is on a file system that is NFS mounted from an HP server. There are no permission problems or group problems that affect other operations though, so why should RBrowser have a problem? Any ideas? John Bartley john@wpa.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: how do I rename a Group in NeXTmail? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:02:42 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320210008.11106F-100000@kira> References: <5gphsu$72c$1@jeeves2.niehs.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gregg E. Dinse" <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> In-Reply-To: <5gphsu$72c$1@jeeves2.niehs.nih.gov> Sadly, the only way to do this is to quit Mail.app and open ~/.NeXT/.mailalias in Edit.app (or some other text which can do ASCII) Once you have the file open it should be relatively easy to figure out how to change the names, save the file, and start Mail.app. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS March Quiz - last call + 3 more hints ! Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:02:33 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5gsq7p$7d4@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS March quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is April 1. ATTENTION: Due to the low number of correct answers in both of the two quiz categories, THE MARCH QUIZ IS YOUR BEST CHANCE EVER to win a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license. And here's even THREE MORE HINTS: 1) I'm serious about the "30 seconds" hint given on the quiz page. You won't need to stress your brains much - just make use of one particular application. Luckily, when you download and display the quiz page, that particular app is already the active one. 2) In case you're on the right way, but the results still yield nothing, then take a look at the 6th character: it's a capital! You might want to adapt how you try to find an answer... 3) If you succeed in getting the answer to the first question, then the answer to the second question should be fairly easy. Just keep in mind that SSS is a SOHO. Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Date: 21 Mar 1997 09:14:48 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5gu54o$akv@papoose.quick.com> References: <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net> In article <5gruer$ijb@twain.mo.net>, John Bartley <nimno@Walden.mo.net> wrote: >The only thing that I can think of is that my home directory is on >a file system that is NFS mounted from an HP server. There are no >permission problems or group problems that affect other operations >though, so why should RBrowser have a problem? I do not use RBrowser so cannot be sure, but I think I know what is going on. If RBrowser is running SUID root, and the HP has exported the file system without root access for your host, this would explain your problem. When root access is not explicitly requested for an export to a host, then normal users can update the disk just fine within the limits of normal Unix permissions, but the superuser cannot. This security prevents someone who has root access on a client from installing a trojan horse on a volume which lives on the server. man exportfs on the HP to verify. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Workspace refresh rate Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:11:25 -0500 Organization: Concurrent Technologies Corp. Message-ID: <3332970D.FF6@ctc.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> <simpson-1803971807490001@ws-3.brookscole.drexel.edu> <Pine.ULT.3.91.970319123716.7543D-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I was wondering if anyone know dwrite for refresh rate of Workspace file manager. For example, if I copy a file from Terminal it takes a while for the file appear in the file manager. I want file manager get the latest directory stat like every one second. Thanks in advance. -- Chang-Hyeon Song E-mail: song@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. Phone: 814-269-6515 Personal E-mail: song@PlanetAll.com Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/5237/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done because a machine I've never heard of is down." --Leslie Lamport
From: "Nicolai Henriksen" <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 21 Mar 1997 17:18:18 GMT Message-ID: <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few lines) if you want... - Nicolai mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) wrote: >I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in >Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... > >When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" >or "Mime" mail. > >Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I >press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages >always get replied to in NeXTMail. > >Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the >..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. > >BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? > >-- >Mark Trombino > mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay) > -- Nicolai Henriksen <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> WWW: http://home6.inet.tele.dk/nicolai ---------------------------------------- -Drink wet cement: Get Stoned.
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trouble with TickleServices/enscript from Edit Date: 21 Mar 1997 18:51:15 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5gulb3$mng@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I asked how to print a selection of a file (not the whole file) from Edit. People suggested TickleServices, so I'm trying it out. It looks pretty cool, but I've run into a snag. I have less than a page of text. I select it and then try Services->TickleServices->Enscript Text... Sometimes this works, and it prints, but there seems to be a limit on the size of the selection. There's a point where if I add one more character to the selection the Enscript Text fails, giving the following message in the Console: ----------- TickleServer: Tcl error providing service "Tickle Services/Enscript Text...". enscript: "(stdin)" not a text file? Try -g. while executing "exec enscript << [pasteboard read]" ("0" arm line 1) invoked from within "case [alertpanel Enscript $msg "2 column" "1 column" "Parameters"] { 1 {exec enscript -2r << [pasteboard read]} 0 {exec enscript << [pasteboar ..." invoked from within service "Tickle Services/Enscript Text..." in file "/LocalLibrary/TickleServices/Tickle Services.ts" ----------- So, what am I doing wrong? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Linux/BSD/NeXT? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7EGoK.B0o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:36:20 GMT References: <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5gsdld$42i@tepe.tezcat.com>, sarlo <sarlo@tezcat.com> wrote: >I was wondering if anyone had heard of a port of BSD/Linux for NeXT boxes >(680x0's). If so, where can I find info on it, as I think i've pretty much >exausted all of the web functions.. > There was a guy who was working on one, but I don't recall who he is or what became of the work. You can run Plan 9 on mono slabs (and cubes, I would imagine) but I think that's it as far as alternate OSs goes. Of course you could use the info in the Plan 9 port to do your own stuff. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 21 Mar 1997 21:30:23 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkvi6k64lc.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> "Nicolai Henriksen" <nicolai@post6.tele.dk> writes: > There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it > and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come > out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few > lines) if you want... >... Please post your fix here (the few lines of source code) so we may all benefit. Thanks, Christopher === Christopher Rath === crath@nortel.ca === (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PGP software? Date: 22 Mar 1997 08:39:38 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> Hello fellow NeXTStep users. I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a bit of it recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of software(free/commercial) that I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? Please respond to quinonez@ucla.edu. Thanks -- _____________________________________________ G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@ucla.edu> NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0 NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:26:26 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5h0c4i$qhs@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> Cc: nicolai@post6.tele.dk In <5gufsq$4kai$1@news.inet.tele.dk> "Nicolai Henriksen" wrote: > There is a bug in EnhanceMail 2.0b5 resulting in exactly what you describe. I fixed it > and I think I mailed it to the maintainers of EnhanceMail, but no new version has come > out yet (AFAIK). I can mail you the a fixed version or the source changes (only a few > lines) if you want... That's great! I've received mail from Tom Hageman who told me that he is aware of the bug and is working to correct it. In the meantime, though, feel free to post the few lines of code! And thanks for the help! -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: PPPMonitor and Openstep Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:30:31 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5h0cc7$qhs@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Anyone else having problems with PPPMonitor under Openstep? I've recently upgraded and PPPMonitor keeps hanging on me -- sometimes it hangs during the starting up of a ppp connection (right after ip-up gets called). Sometimes it won't allow me to quit because it thinks a connection is still active, even when it's not. Just wondering if its me or Openstep... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: msevestr@simplet4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New NextStep user Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:03:40 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <5h590c$dj2@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Sorry for my questions but I'm a new NextStep Owner. I've just purchased NextStep 3.3 for my compuer (a Cyrix P166+ based machine) but I'm having troubles installing it . After booting with the floppy, WNext is asking me about my SCSI hardware. The problem is that I have a full IDE machine. How can I solve this problem? I have a floppy with IDE/ATAPI drivers but how / when can I use it properly? When I choose randomly SCSI hardware for my hard drives and for my CDROM and after I use the IDE floppy disk, I can choose IDE-ATAPI drivers but after, I only have a message: Booting NextStep (or equivalent) and a black screen (isn't it nice!!??) Is anybody able to help me? Thank You. Matt Sevestre.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 04:41:14 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> In-Reply-To: <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 24-Mar-97 Re: Improv look-alike by mitchell.allen@worldnet. > OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to > do is type: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, that you have a color machine. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Color-depth-setting application: where? Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:17:41 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5h65ul$ijv@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> On 03/23/97, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hi! > > I seem to recall having had a little application to set the color depth at > which various applications ran. Any hints as to where I could find such a > beast? Or is there a common dwrite? > There's a dwrite, e.g. Terminal NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 24 Mar 1997 15:24:55 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5h66c7$iri@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> On 03/23/97, Don Yacktman wrote: > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... > I seem to recall an interview with one of the Improv developers in which he expressed his surprise when NeXT told him how great his app looked in colour -- "But we didn't write in colour support..." "True, but with PostScript you didn't have to, sir, it just works." Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Message-ID: <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@peak.org Organization: Disorganization References: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:04:34 GMT In <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > This is a MIME-encapsulated message > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* > --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer First, I'm using a newsreader not a mailer. Second I can see this and I don't see a reason that I must change my newsreader. This kind of junk reminds me to those infamous html postings from netscape-beta.
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MSQL version that works with MiniSQLEOFAdaptor? Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:42:11 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Mar24114211@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I downloaded the MiniSQLEOFAdaptor from Peak but the ftp address that is given for the correct version of msql gives me "access denied". Here is the address that is giving me problems: ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Vendors/M_Onyschuk_and_Associates_Inc If I can't get this old version, does the latest version (2) of msql work with this adaptor? David Shaffer -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 24 Mar 1997 12:11:25 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <we6n2rtmtnm.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> <5h3q4e$6u5$1@netty.york.ac.uk> pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) writes: > lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) writes: > > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > > welcome. > > It compiled out of the box for me if I remember rightly... not a problem. At least you have to replace waitpid with wait4, and perhaps getcwd with getwd. Ciao, Stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 14:17:42 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403971417430001@31.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> > > Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a > Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, > that you have a color machine. :-) > I did it and I got color support in the charting app, but no color in the main app. Mitch
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 24 Mar 1997 19:32:11 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5h6krr$6qr$2@news.xmission.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> <gnBYkuy00iWm01SZg0@andrew.cmu.edu> <mitchell.allen-2403971417430001@31.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > Well, you'd have to type "dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes" in a > > Terminal window, and Improv will be in color. (Assuming, of course, > > that you have a color machine. :-) > > > I did it and I got color support in the charting app, but no color in the > main app. Yeah. They got that far and then dropped the ball. But color in the charting is better than nothing... It is a real shame this app died. :-( -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 00:36:20 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >> >> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: >> 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus >> >> Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com >> >> Thanks, Stan > >Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT >will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... > >Arno I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC to twisted pait in 6 months. Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------
From: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr (Abdel BOUDRAA) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help:display of an image using NXImage class Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:15:19 GMT Organization: UCBL Message-ID: <5h6ncn$5ui@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Dear colleague: I'd like to find source to display a simple gray level image (not a ps or eps..) using NXImage class. Thanks in advance -------------------- boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: No more free WebObjects? Date: 22 Mar 1997 10:32:11 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5h0u1r$npq@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu writes: >Did NeXT stop offering the free version >of WebObjects? Sigh... All I see is how >to order WebObjects Pro and Enterprise. For academic use, NeXT no longer offers a free copy of WebObjects Pro & Enterprise. Instead, you can order WebObjects Enterprise Academic for $299 from Optimal Object. Again, this is for academic use, not for doing "business" at a university. As for the totally free base version, I don't see it either. ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: lewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 22 Mar 1997 15:56:00 GMT Organization: Dayton Ohio Network (DONet, Inc.) Message-ID: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Thanks, Stan
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 21:01:12 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33360A94.3DA4@earthlink.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Bauer wrote: > (4) Because if Rhapsody flops, we will all have to switch to Wintel. Absolutely not!! I'll use something else!! >Or, more accurately, Microsoft will have that much more power to >single-handedly determine the course of personal computing, >needless to say to the detriment of personal computing. Don't forget, NeXT has been around for quite some time now and it had an extremely small but loyal following of users and developers. Now many of them will be using Rhapsody. If NeXT can hold out for this long with such a small group, I think Apple and the Mac have a good chance of being around much longer than you give credit for. STEVE K.
From: nospamthanx@nowhere.com (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:03:32 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5h6tnk$fse@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> On 03/23/97, Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: .. Etherlink XL... >I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI >ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC >to twisted pait in 6 months. I've had good success with the Cogent EM 960 and the Inter Etherexpress Pro/10. Both are available in combo versions, and both have solid NS 3.3 drivers. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 21:55:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5h6t87$jeh@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> In article <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) writes: > I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI > ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC > to twisted pait in 6 months. Any DECchip21040 (and 21041) based PCI card will do: Cogent PCI SMC EtherPower PCI Linksys PCI: I found one at Best Buy at < $60 There are others too, just look at the detailed specs of prospective cards to see if they refer to the chipset mentioned above. Good luck. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: That nasty MIME garbage in my recentposts(Re: RBrowser startup problem) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:20:58 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324101404.3299B-100000@kira> References: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org> In-Reply-To: <1997Mar23.120434.487@gamelan.shnet.org> > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > > If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer > > First, I'm using a newsreader not a mailer. Second I can see this and I don't > see a reason that I must change my newsreader. This kind of junk reminds me > to those infamous html postings from netscape-beta. I've already posted about this in csn.hardware, but there's no reason not to repeat it..... This did NOT come from me, but from the mail2news gateway @ antigone.com I sent mail to the admin <mross@antigone.com>, and he has responded that they are in the process of changing their service. I am not sure he grasped the problem (he said "MIME is an accepted standard") and he has not replied to my message back that there was no need to MIME-encapsulate a message that was just plain text. This has screwed me up as well, moreso that just some extra lines in a post, trust me. For now I'm using PINE again until I can get something worked out, but as the old way allows me to catch & squash spammers and crossposters, and use a GUI method rather than PINE, I may go back to it if I cannot find a better solution quickly. If you would like to explain to Mr Ross why this is unacceptable behavior, be my guest. However, he is being made aware of the problem. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd
From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT and AT&T Worldnet Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:39:43 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5h7acv$n1v@news.one.net> I have been trying to get logged on to AT&T WorldNet from the Cube. I am logged on to another ISP that I have with no trouble, but when I try to get on WorldNet, I get through the UserName and Password stages, but then I get a message something to the effect that: "the serial connection is not 8-bit clean, 0 appears at position 7" Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Mitch
From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: No more free WebObjects? Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:27:42 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5h79me$n1v@news.one.net> References: <5h0u1r$npq@atlas.vcu.edu> <33286D2C.3B18@arch.buffalo.edu> > > For academic use, NeXT no longer offers a free copy of WebObjects > Pro & Enterprise. Instead, you can order WebObjects Enterprise > Academic for $299 from Optimal Object. Again, this is for > academic use, not for doing "business" at a university. > > As for the totally free base version, I don't see it either. Did you fellows look at: ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/SoftwareDownloads/WebObjects-2.0/ I didn't do the DL, but it looks like WO 2.0 is there for the DLing. Mitch
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:58:21 GMT Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: > > Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > > Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > > Thanks, Stan Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... Arno
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: VirtSpace by Pinnacle Research: Can it be had? Date: 25 Mar 1997 06:01:19 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Message-ID: <5h7pnf$8vb@news.sei.cmu.edu> Interested in the commercial version. Is it available? -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Message-ID: <E7ECoA.8tD@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 14:09:46 GMT In article <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu>, you wrote: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Improv of course. I bought Improv for Windows recently. They still sell it. And for NEXTSTEP it seems that Quantrix is close. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703221536.KAA02013@kira.peak.org> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 10:35:59 -0500 Subject: 'id' for NeXTStep (and a bunch of my scripts made available) Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A small announcement not worthy of csn.announce: I hacked up a small /bin/sh script to provide 'id' information for NeXTStep (and I assume OpenStep as well... it uses 'nidump'). I've also had some request and curiosity about how I got interested in scripting, and so I've made about 35 new scripts available (of about 250 I've got on my machine to do everything from the trivial to the borders-on-interesting.... Anyway, if you are interested, checkout my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ (goto 'scripts') If you don't have web access, you can get the 'id' script by sending me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime id And you can get a list of the currently available files by sending me an email message with the SUBJECT send_current_list I found the book "Inside UNIX" to be very helpful. Here's the information: Title: Inside UNIX Authors: Chris Hare, Emmett Dulaney, George Eckel, Steven Lee, Lee Ray Publisher: New Riders Publishing Indianapolis, Indiana Year: 1994 Pages: 1194 ISBN: 1-56205-401-5 Cover price: USD $39.99 (includes 3.5 disk with scripts) If you're aware of common UNIX-utilities which are not available for NeXTStep, please let me know. (Of course the GNU versions are usually available, but I wasn't able to find the source code to GNU's 'id' to see if it would work on NeXTStep... and I assume it wouldn't understand NetInfo) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055070==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703222225.RAA05733@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:25:16 -0500 Subject: Re: RBrowser startup problem Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: nimno@Walden.mo.net (John Bartley) Original Date: 20 Mar 1997 18:08:27 GMT Message-ID: 698ae42bed624efbc22f6b01bdd75acf - > I've been using RBrowser for a long time at home with no problems. > However, I can't seem to get very far at the office and don't know > what the problem is. As soon as I launch it, an error panel pops up > that says: "mkdir failed:Permission denied." It is trying to make files in /tmp perhaps? If so I don't know why it is failing. Or maybe "~/.AppInfo/RBrowser/" ?? (but this should be made already). Check permissions on ~/.AppInfo and ~/.AppInfo/RBrowser. I've just emailed Robert Vasvari <vrobi@ddrummer.com> a few days ago about RBrowser, so you might try him also. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055102==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703222228.RAA05788@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:28:25 -0500 Subject: Re: Workspace refresh rate Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 09:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: c26689c0c7a57b97a542a5c2b6199f1e - > I was wondering if anyone know dwrite for refresh rate of Workspace > file manager. For example, if I copy a file from Terminal it takes > a while for the file appear in the file manager. No, there isn't, as far as I know. However, if you have/get TickleServices, it comes with a nifty little commandline binary called "WSNotify" that will update the WM for you. You would use it like this: # cp file ~ && WSNotify or in zsh I would set up this function: cp () { /bin/cp $* WSNotify } so it would run WSNotify automatically. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055100==antigone.sonic.net==__--
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 22 Mar 1997 23:17:58 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> DR <randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> writes: >Improv had many nice features, such as being able to construct formulas >that look like English. May it rest in peace. Of all the spreadsheets >out there in 1997, on whatever platform, which is most Improv-like in >terms of look and feel? Quantrix by Lighthouse Design for NEXTSTEP. Assuming they're still selling it (it's not visible on their web page, but a demo is located at their ftp site - ftp.lighthouse.com). It seems to work well under OPENSTEP 4.0 for Mach but they haven't committed to porting to OPENSTEP - Rhapsody, Solaris or otherwise.. It can even import Improv .imx files and it's part of Lighthouse's $99 Academic CD. It's an awesome spreadsheet, a definitely nice upgrade from Improv. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) and how solid it remained throughout the years. ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <608858488427@digifix.com> Date: 23 Mar 1997 05:00:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: NextStep -> Openstep Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:31:51 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Message-ID: <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> Hi, We just got Openstep for WindowsNT in our institute and I'd like to convert some Next code into Openstep. So far I know there exist tool for that, but I cannot find them. Can anybody help me ? Thanks, Bojidar
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 25 Mar 97 09:25:18 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar25092518@howard.one.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> In-reply-to: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net's message of Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:55:21 -0500 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: In article <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv > with this dwrite: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to do is type: Improv UseColorPalette Yes in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Heavens, no. Even NeXTSTEP is not _that_ easy. You have to type: dwrite Improv UseColorPalette Yes :-), -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Blake LeBaron <blake@ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems installing Openstep Enterprise for NT Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:18:53 -0800 Organization: University of Wisconsin Message-ID: <3338170D.911@ai.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently been trying to install the Openstep Enterprise (4.1) package on my NT(4.0) machine, and the install came back with a few errors which I was wondering if anyone else has bumped into. At the end of the install I get the following message: The following errors occured during installation: Failed to create program group: OPENSTEP Enterprise: -1, Failed to create c:\NeXT\NextLibrary\System\Windowserver.exe, c:\NeXT\NextLibrary\Frameworks\AppKit.framework\Resources\pbs.exe Just wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this. Thanks, Blake LeBaron
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> Control: cancel <19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <19970325182000.NAA27477@ladder01.news.aol.com> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 18:21:04 GMT Sender: dilbertbc@aol.com (DilbertBC) ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: cchris@capt.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with OmniWeb Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:02:06 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5gv7hu$k2p$1@its.hooked.net> Greetings, I am trying to install OmniWeb 2.5 beta 2 on my Nextstation color Turbo. I am also using PPP 2.2 and DialUp 1.2.1. DialUp will connect to my provider and OmniWeb launches OK. Most of the time when I click on a link OmniWeb gives the message "HTTP:Connecting to xyz" and then nothing else happens. It will do this for every link. After a short while the connection is dropped. Occassionally, however, it will download a page (or two) successfully but it then starts to give the message (in red) "Temporarily unable to connect:Network is unreachable." It will now give this for *any* link, even the ones that it linked to before. After a few attempts the connection is dropped. I used HostManager to configure as follows: Local Configuration NetInfo Binding > use local domain only x Readable only by local net Hostname > cybersoft NIS Domain Name > None Internet Information Internet Address > 127.0.0.1 Broadcast address > default Time statndard > ignore network time Netmask > default Router > none I recall someone else having a problem like this. Any idea what is wrong? Thanks for any help. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: REQ: Openstep help? Date: 23 Mar 1997 11:06:46 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h3kem$ueq@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <3330157D.60AF@accessicg.com> Douglas Hardman <dhardman@accessicg.com> writes: >Anyone have a copy of OpenStep 4.0 for the Intel Architecture. Is there >somewhere I can download it, and run it BEORE I spend thousands of >dollars on the OS. OPENSTEP 4.1 is the current version, with 4.2 coming out Real Soon Now. No, like most commercial operating systems, a demonstration is not available, nor is the product available for downloading. However, buying a copy of OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel User version is $800. It's developer that costs so much. In addition, Apple is most likely going to change the pricing model - I don't see most of Apple's user base paying $800 for the OS and thousands for the developer. You can certainly download NeXT's whitepapers and on-line documentation. In addition, you may be able to locate a nearby NeXT users's group or just someone willing to show you OPENSTEP. BTW, are you looking at OPENSTEP for Windows NT or OPENSTEP for Mach? You should also give NeXT's sales offices a call. >Is there support for it anywhere? I have alot of >questions, and would appreciate some direction from anyone. Thanks! Support, like most commercial OS's, is offered in several ways: You can get support contracts from Apple. You can hire OPENSTEP/NEXTSTEP consultants. You can ask in comp.sys.next.*. You can find documentation of all sorts on http://www.next.com/ You can look up additional information at http://www.stepwise.com/ Good luck, ..Bill Chin
From: nagendra@cs.bu.edu (nagendra mishr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: snd <--> wav converter Date: 25 Mar 1997 20:14:30 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Message-ID: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> I'm looking for a conversion program which will take the snd recorded from the Next box and output a windows wav file... Anyone know where to get something like this? I'm using a next slab to do my recordings. thanks in advance Nagendra Mishr n@4i.com
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Samba port for NS 3.3 Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:43:42 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@nicecuppa.ohm.york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5h3q4e$6u5$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <5ghmdi$4ts@news.sei.cmu.edu> lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) writes: > Sorry if this is a FAQ. Thought I'd just check before looking > at the current Samba distribution. Any porting experiences > welcome. It compiled out of the box for me if I remember rightly... not a problem. -bat.
From: tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tibor_L=E1szlo_P=E1li?=) Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.iris-explorer,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: modular apps development Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 19:21:19 +0100 Organization: Biological Research Centre, Szeged, Hungary Message-ID: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> Hi, I am considering to purchase some sort of modular and graphical application development system fo unix. Until now three options came to mind: IRIS Explorer, SIMULINK, and LabView (is this also on unix?). The main purpose would be off line spectrum handling and curve fitting to user defined procedures. Flexibility, speed and easy programming would be the main concern. I would welcome suggestions as to what package should I have a closer look at or if there would be other candidates. Thanks, -- Tibor Szeged, Hungary
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: 23 Mar 1997 20:47:46 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) wrote: > [...]. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of > Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) > and how solid it remained throughout the years. For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv with this dwrite: Improv UseColorPalette Yes I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available during development since they do support color... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Wei Li <wli@cs.uah.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 2.0 for NeXTStation: $40 shipped Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 21:21:28 -0600 Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970325212053.3873B-100000@pluto> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have one copy of Mathematica 2.0 for NeXTStation (original floppies) for sale: $40 shipped. Please drop me a line at "wli@cs.uah.edu" if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: snd <--> wav converter Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:46:53 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970325194607.11642A-100000@kira> References: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> checkout ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/soundapps/GISO.3.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz aka http://www.peak.org/next/apps/soundapps/GISO.3.3.NIHS.bs.tar.gz TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 23 Mar 1997 21:37:22 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5h47qi$bm3$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> In-Reply-To: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> On 03/22/97, Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > >Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > >Thanks, Stan > I have been in touch with the NeXT Tech support group on this. I am an EAP. The story I am getting is that it is being writen wtih NO timeframe till beta release yet. May be if we all keep up a weekly reminder effort we will ge their attention. Send email to Mark Tacchi <mtacchi@next.com> and Marc Driftmeyer <Marc_Driftmeyer@next.com> If you hear of any drivers for this card please let me know and visa versa. Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: snd <--> wav converter Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7Mqqp.53s@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 02:54:25 GMT References: <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5h9bn6$9ie@news.bu.edu>, nagendra mishr <nagendra@cs.bu.edu> wrote: >I'm looking for a conversion program which will take the snd recorded >from the Next box and output a windows wav file... > Poke around Peanuts (http://peanuts.leo.org/) for Giso.app. It's a graphical front-end to sox that will let you convert anything to anything. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703232002.PAA11954@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 15:02:13 -0500 Subject: Re: PGP software? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* Responding To: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 08:39:38 GMT Message-ID: df1b89cccf9266a13b5bc4c6da073259 - > I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a > bit of it recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of > software(free/commercial) that I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? here is a start ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/NXPGP.1.1.2.NIHS.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/pgpservice.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/bundles/EnhanceMail.2.0b5.NIHS.bs.tar.gz These all allow for use of PGP, but do not include PGP itself.... You'll have to get that from MIT (see their web page). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:57:23 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> Cc: warnock@adobe.com In <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > Apple's OS Man Is On The Spot; Software Writers Want NeXt-Based System To Do > The Near-Impossible > 03/12/97 > San Francisco Examiner > > Warnock said Adobe had told Tevanian that Apple must change its plans for > Rhapsody. As first explained in January, Apple said Rhapsody would have two > separate environments, which it called the blue box and the yellow box. > > At the time, Apple said Rhapsody's blue box would let the new OS run > current Mac programs, be they word processors or desktop publishing software. > The yellow box, by contrast, would be the environment in which to create new > and more powerful Mac programs. > > But to take advantage of the power inside the yellow box, developers would > have to rewrite their programs from scratch. > > Warnock said Wednesday that "Adobe is not interested in rewriting its > applications" for the yellow box. That would take too much time and money. > Instead, he wants Tevanian to engineer Rhapsody so programs like Photoshop > can use some features in the blue box and some in the yellow box, and not get > stuck in one or the other. > > "There needs to be a middle ground," he said. "If Apple makes some > compromises in the (blue) box, it would save a huge amount of time on our > part." > > Stephen Howard, who has followed Apple's operating system saga for MacWeek > magazine, was surprised by Warnock's comments. He said the Copland project > had failed because it had tried to do what Warnock seemed to want from > Rhapsody - to make old programs ran on a new operating system, only better. > My personal opinion is that Stephen Howard has an appropriate opinion, and that Apple should ignore Warnock's comments/demand. Don't cripple/compromise the architecture in a way we already know can kill the entire project with an overcomplex architecture. I will buy a "pure" Rhapsody. I guarantee that. If Warnock wants my business, he will port to Openstep and ship on Rhapsody. Period. If you feel the same way about Warnock's whining, I suggest you make a similar public statement. Don't let the whiners make terrorist threats against the future of the platform. (I don't know if warnock@adobe.com works, but I'm cc'ing this there) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: dnmetz@REMOVEintergate.bc.ca (David Metz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 22:38:04 -0700 Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation Message-ID: <199703252238041580920@pm6s2.intergate.bc.ca> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <maury-1303971500050001@199.166.204.230> <webboy-ya02408000R1303971341030001@news.azstarnet.com> <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> <33299488.7374@sequent.com> <3329A438.6D06@subsequent.com> Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> wrote: > (Of course, I think Warnock's bluffing. Anyone care to check Adobe's > IRS filings to see what percentage of their revenue comes from Mac > software?) I think so to. Anyone know how the negotiations on licensing Display Postscript are going? (gone?) -- David Metz dnmetz@intergate.bc.ca
From: "Steven Kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Best Emulation Software for epson inkjet printer? Date: 26 Mar 1997 02:23:24 GMT Organization: Kornreich Communications Inc. Message-ID: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> Can someone recommend a good emulation software to run under ns 4.0 for intel to drive my new epson color 800 inkjet printer? Thanks steve@eps.com
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 18 Mar 1997 17:48:34 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" or "Mime" mail. Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages always get replied to in NeXTMail. Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Color-depth-setting application: where? Date: 23 Mar 1997 22:21:00 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h4acc$jt3@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Hi! I seem to recall having had a little application to set the color depth at which various applications ran. Any hints as to where I could find such a beast? Or is there a common dwrite? Regards, Alex ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: no@spam.com (Stefan J. Huelf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 25 Mar 1997 21:08:23 GMT Organization: Pelikan & Partner, Hamburg, Germany Message-ID: <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I thought I would start the name-finding-session early for the May97 deadline at the WWDC: Here are some of my ideas: AppleStep 5.0 MacStep 5.0 OpenApple 5.0 OpenMaC 5.0 AppleObjects 5.0 AppleCore 5.0 MacCore 5.0 Mac NT 5.0 Apple NT 5.0 Apple NB 5.0 (Apple NewBase) NewBase Mac 5.0 Appleland 5.0 PowerMac OS 5.0 MacMove 5.0 AppleJam 5.0 MacJam 5.0 ApplePie 5.0 MoveMac 5.0 MacNewDimension 5.0 MacLook 98 UltraMac Step 2000 (Capitalization may vary) I had about 30 more names but as the Internet broadwith is limited... I thought: What the heck... ;-) _______________________________________________________________________ Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with APPLESTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news Definition of Apple ´97: "NeXT genes in Apple´s body!" _______________________________________________________________________
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: setup sendmail to forward???? Date: 26 Mar 1997 04:27:42 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5ha8ju$f8o$1@news3.voicenet.com> I have e NeXT box acting as a firewall for me....but I want it to pass all incoming mail to another server on the inside of the firewall, likewise to pass all mail outgoing. How can I do this? -Darren
From: "Erik D. Schminke" <edschminke@willmar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hacking a NeXT Mach System Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:06:05 GMT Organization: MEANS Message-ID: <01bc37bc$a9a0d380$ca3a0ace@schminke.willmar.com> I would like some questions answered by any hackers out there willing to help. My school runs a NeXT Mach system and someone hacked into it using one of the so called "default accounts". Please take a look at what was done. The website is at http://willmar.k12.cfa.org/. I expect that this page will be take down and returned to what it was before, as soon as it is discovered, so I made a copy of the page and put it at http://www.willmar.com/~schminke/willmar/. Please check one of these pages and then explain how to this was do to me via e-mail. My address is edschminke@willmar.com Thank you, -- Erik Schminke (edschminke@willmar.com)
From: Robb Lincoln <n9549957@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 09:45:41 -0800 Organization: Western Washington University Message-ID: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: warnock@adobe.com In-Reply-To: <5g9r9d$5kh$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> On 13 Mar 1997, John Rudd wrote: > > Actually, a great Nextstep based alternative to Photoshop already exists > (TIFFany), but other than that, I agree with you. If Adobe neglects this > market, it's just an open door for others to come through and say "We _ARE_ > the premier graphics app for Rhapsody, and we're better than Photoshop, take > a look." > > If giving away the market is what Warnock wants, then he should continue his > current tack.. otherwise, he should start whistling friendlier tunes. Your absolutly right. I've been wondering if what has been printed might be being taken out of context in the original article. It just dosent seem to jive with other noises coming from Adobe and Apple. The recent agreements about DPS/PS and Acrobate/Webobjects integration for instance. These are two companies combining some powerful code in order to strenghten themselves in the marketplace. Why would Adobe lock itself out of one of it most lucrative markets? I think that _maybe_ (hopefully?) Warnock is toalingonly about immediate integration. Wouldn't they port to Rhapsody in the next update--unless they plan on abandoning the mac completely. Given the agreements mentiioned above, Adobe's getting even closer to Apple however. Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. Mr. Warnock, I truly hope you rethink your stance on suporting your products in the Unified release of Rhapsody. The structure of the new OS seems to make it the perfect publishing platform--not only for pre-press but also online. I fully intend to move over to the new OS immediatly upon its release. If your company fails to port its products to the "Yellow Box", I will take my buisness elsewhere. Thankyou for your time, Robb Lincoln
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniImageFilter Help! Message-ID: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 23 Mar 97 22:42:17 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed OmniImageFilter. How do I get OmniWeb to use the ImageFilter to translate images? I still can't view non-NeXT images. Please e-mail help. -Bill Carlisle carlisle@juniata.edu
From: Jonathan Hendry <jon@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:43:19 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <33299C47.3BC7@subsequent.com> References: <Pine.ULT.3.91.970314092336.28089B-100000@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robb Lincoln wrote: > Maybe Warnock just had to much coffee befor lunch... > Thats the only reasonaable conclusioon that I can come up with. He's probably trying to get Apple to agree to higher DPS licenses: Porting apps will be expensive. Higher DPS licenses would help 'pay for the ports'. He knows the modifications he mentioned would be difficult and expensive. He knows Apple couldn't hardly implement them in time. He wants Gil to come back with an alternative, something to make the ports 'worthwhile'. Namely, more DPS license money.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv look-alike Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 00:55:21 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403970055220001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <332EDF40.7265@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu> <5h2atm$2so8@atlas.vcu.edu> <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com> In article <5h44ti$fn9$1@news.xmission.com>, don@globalobjects.com wrote: > s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) wrote: > > [...]. It still amazes me that Lotus did only one release of > > Improv for NEXTSTEP (before NEXTSTEP has color or faxing even) > > and how solid it remained throughout the years. > > For folks who may not know, you _can_ turn color on in Improv > with this dwrite: > > Improv UseColorPalette Yes > > I guess they must have had an advance version of 2.1 available > during development since they do support color... > OK, so I'm a total NeXT newbie, but are you telling me that all I have to do is type: Improv UseColorPalette Yes in a terminal window and Improv will be in color? Mitch
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing software Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:01:08 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3335FC84.6950@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What software is available that will allow OPENSTEP to print to non-Postscript printers? --gh
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ghostscript Print Filter Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:43 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3339A627.7EBA@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install GSPrint Filter so that I can print to a non-Postscript printer. After installing the GSFilter and GSsetup packages, the instructions say to run the provided GSFilter.postinstall script. However there is no postinstall script anywhere. Has anyone else run accross this? How can this be resolved? --Greg
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LAPACK Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:59:24 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gkers$qpd@cocoa.brown.edu> I just got NetLib's LaPack from Walnut Creek. LaPack is a bunch of Linear Algebra subrutines written in ForTran77. I have Absoft's ForTran compiler but I cannot run the make file successfully. Any insite will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I hate apps becoming active without user input Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 20:08:25 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <332DF908.4AEE@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5gjdmo$83b$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl wrote: > > There are a few nextstep apps that make themselves or others the active > window without me clicking on them. Examples are PopOver (activating > Mail.app), Alexandra, STedi, Xnext. Of course, while the app is starting Yeah, Opener.app really annoys me...can't we have an option for it to stay in the BACKGROUND? That would be SOOO nice. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services----Illinois State University "NEXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" - Byte Magazine ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 28 Mar 1997 05:43:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm097-05.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hflqv$9et$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Cc: no@spam.com In <5h9es7$1ij@news.ppp.net> Stefan J. Huelf wrote: > Hi, > I thought I would start the name-finding-session early for the May97 deadline > at the WWDC: > > Here are some of my ideas: > It's silly, but I played with possible names too. And kinda liked MacMach. Not really ... :-)))) Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: <lumina@magi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Workspace width Date: 28 Mar 1997 11:13:23 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5hg94j$7vp@news.istar.ca> Hell; Anyone know how to readjust the screen width ? Black Cube AND color monitor Could be the monitor, the width seems to be slowly getting worse ! thanks Rob
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Preview.app - sending delayed facsimiles Date: 25 Mar 1997 15:39:36 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5h8rjo$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Hi NeXTFolks, I've got a question about the Fax-Panel in the Preview.app: It isn't possible to send a fax LATER (I don't know the exact label of the button, because I am using the German edition of NEXTSTEP) in the Fax-Panel in Preview.app (the curious thing about this is, that it works in any other App, but not in Preview...) Does anyone know a workaround, a unix-tool or something else to make Preview send a fax at a LATER point of time ?? Thanks a lot, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: !!! ATTENTION ALL DEVELOPERS !!! + Localization Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:46:55 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5hglkv$2vi@supernews.login.net> References: <19970325011500.UAA11589@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970325011500.UAA11589@ladder01.news.aol.com> Software products made available in foreign languages are an important part of their success as well as Rhapsody's. If you are planning development of products for Rhapsody (software, hardware, documentation), I will be pleased to supply you with a FREE estimate of localization cost to French. Distribution, CD burning (in large or small quantities), and financial arrangements are possible. Cheers, André Lalonde <tralala@mlink.net> (NeXTMail - MIME - ASCII ) Experienced NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP translator since 1991. -------------------------------------------------- On 03/24/97, Strange55 wrote: > Develop for OpenStep now, and your code can be reused in Rhapsody, Apple's > new OS in the wings...I know they haven't been making this clear, but it's > true! > > Documentation and info for developing for OpenStep (and therefore, > Rhapsody) is available at: > > http://www.next.com/Pubs/Documents/Download/apple.html > > Step to it, guys! > > P.S. Everybody forward this message to any newsgroups or software > companies they know of...we need to help Apple out, and make the > transition to Rhapsody real easy... >
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Best Emulation Software for epson inkjet printer? Date: 26 Mar 1997 18:03:06 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5hbocq$k59@dfw-ixnews11.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> In-Reply-To: <01bc398c$ab94ed80$f2d49ace@pro.papio.com> Hello Steve: JetPilot 2.3 ============ 14. June 1996 JetPilot is the solution for most printing problems. It allows to use the inexpensive BubbleJet printers as well as a selection of the most popular laser printers. No need for slow or expensive PostScript printers, just use any supported standard printer. But even for PS printers it is a speed improvement. SPECIAL: Now includes an enhanced driver for the NeXT laser. THE PACKAGE =========== JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz Quad FAT Package JetPilot.2.3.NI.b.tar.gz NeXT and Intel architecture only JetPilot.2.3.HS.b.tar.gz HP-PA RISC and SUN SPARC architecture only Contents: ../Documents/ directory with several notes ../JetPilotDriver.2.3.pkg the driver package ../JetPilotManager.2.3.pkg manager software package FIXED IN 2.3 ================ ƒ Printing on some of the newer Epson printers like the StylusXLPro got wrong paper settings and caused strange behavior, like additionals paperfeeds. ƒ BugFix in the StylusColorDriver. Printing with error diffusion and 720dpi and a splitting threshold like 4 and 8 could causes a PostScript error. ƒ Printing with enabled page splitting could render splits with different printing settings. ƒ If JetPilot should print on different printer types via the same comm class, it sometimes works just for the first one printer. The only workaround was rebooting the system. ƒ Wrong settings for the older LaserJet Printers like LaserJet II and III. Printouts looked damaged. ƒ Some printer defaults couldn`t be saved from JetPilotManager. ƒ If pagesplitting is enabled, sometimes local printing of documents with 10 or more pages could stop after a few pages. NEW IN 2.3 ================ ƒ new HP LaserJets 5, 5L, 5M, 5P, 5N, 5MP, 5Si and 5SiMX added. ƒ new HP DeskJets 820C and 680C added. ƒ Epson StylusColor IIs, LQ150 and LQ300 added. ƒ NeXT Laser Printer added. ƒ Nice level added to control system performance. ƒ Added a IPCFile comm class to the driver, which enables to print to a file instead to a printer. The file includes all printer settings for the specifiied printer. ƒ Enhanced the ipc comm classes for debuging purpose. There is a verbose mode which can be enabled via PrinterManager. This feature is just for the case you ran into problems. SUPPORTED PRINTERS ================== This is a list of printers which are supported namely. If you have a printer which is not on this list, but offers a "compatible" mode, simply select the printer, which seems to be most likely. (all without warranty) NeXTLaser Yes the original NeXT Laser printer Canon_BJ most Canon Ink Jet printers Canon_BJ_Color most Canon Ink Jet Color printers Canon_BJ-10sx portable Canon Ink Jet Canon_BJC4000 Canon BJC4000 printer Canon_BJC70 Canon BJC70 printer Canon_BJC800 Canon BJC800 printer Canon_BJC610 Canon BJC610 printer HP_DeskJet DeskJet Classic HP_DeskJetPlus DeskJet Plus HP_DeskJet_310 portable DeskJet 310 mono HP_DeskJet_310C portable DeskJet 310 with color option HP_DeskJet_320 portable DeskJet 320 mono HP_DeskJet_320C portable DeskJet 320 with color option HP_DeskJet_340 portable DeskJet 340 mono HP_DeskJet_340C portable DeskJet 340 with color option HP_DeskJet_500 DeskJet 500 mono HP_DeskJet_500C DeskJet 500C color HP_DeskJet_510 DeskJet 510 mono HP_DeskJet_520 DeskJet 520 mono HP_DeskJet_540 DeskJet 540 mono HP_DeskJet_540C DeskJet 540 with color option HP_DeskJet_550C DeskJet 550C color HP_DeskJet_560C DeskJet 560C color HP_DeskJet_600 DeskJet 600 mono HP_DeskJet_600C DeskJet 600 with color option HP_DeskJet_660C DeskJet 660C color HP_DeskJet_680C DeskJet 680C color HP_DeskJet_820C DeskJet 820C color HP_DeskJet_850C DeskJet 850C color HP_DeskJet_1200C DeskJet 1200C color HP_DeskJet_1200C_PS DeskJet 1200C color PostScript HP_DeskJet_1600C DeskJet 1600C color HP_DeskJet_1600C_PS DeskJet 1600C color PostScript Epson_LQ EPSON LQ driver Epson_EscP/2 most Pin Writers (not only EPSON) Epson_LQ150 EPSON LQ 150 driver Epson_LQ300 EPSON LQ 300 driver Epson_Stylus300 EPSON Stylus 300 driver Epson_Stylus400 EPSON Stylus 400 driver Epson_Stylus800 EPSON Stylus 800 driver Epson_Stylus800plus EPSON Stylus 800+ driver Epson_Stylus1000 EPSON Stylus 1000 driver Epson_StylusColor EPSON Stylus Color 720 dpi Epson_StylusColor II EPSON Stylus Color II 720 dpi Epson_StylusColor IIs EPSON Stylus Color IIs 360 dpi Epson_StylusColorPro EPSON Stylus Color Pro 720 dpi Epson_StylusColorProXL EPSON Stylus Color Pro XL 720 dpi HP_LaserJet LaserJet Classic HP_LaserJetII LaserJet II HP_LaserJetIIP LaserJet IIp HP_LaserJetIII LaserJet III HP_LaserJetIIIP LaserJet IIIp HP_LaserJet_4 LaserJet 4 HP_LaserJet_4Plus LaserJet 4 plus HP_LaserJet_4L LaserJet 4L HP_LaserJet_4M LaserJet 4 PostScript HP_LaserJet_4MPlus LaserJet 4 plus PostScript HP_LaserJet_4ML LaserJet 4L PostScript HP_LaserJet_4MP LaserJet 4p PostScript HP_LaserJet_4P LaserJet 4p HP_LaserJet_4Si LaserJet 4Si HP_LaserJet_4MSi LaserJet 4Si PostScript HP_LaserJet_4V LaserJet 4V (DIN A3) HP_LaserJet_4MV LaserJet 4V PostScript HP_LaserJet_5 LaserJet 5 HP_LaserJet_5L LaserJet 5L HP_LaserJet_5M LaserJet 5M HP_LaserJet_5MP LaserJet 5MP HP_LaserJet_5N LaserJet 5N HP_LaserJet_5P LaserJet 5P HP_LaserJet_5Si LaserJet 5Si HP_LaserJet_5SiMX LaserJet 5SiMX HP_ColorLaserJet ColorLaserJet INSTALLATION ============ Remove all previouse JetPilot releases. You have to be root to install the driver. Unpack the ftp stuff: gunzip JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz tar -xf JetPilot.2.3.NIHS.b.tar Then follow the installation guide in the supplied ../Documents directory. DEMO LICENSE ============ Just start the JetPilotManager.app and follow the license system into the license panel. There you may press the button DEMO. With the integrated order system you may also order a time limited but unrestricted demo license. PRICE & LICENSE =============== This copy of JetPilot runs in a demo mode and can be licensed by ordering a key via e-mail or fax. Of course this product is distributed by all major NEXTSTEP resellers. The license is valid for all supported printers and one certain machine/print server. JetPilot 2.3 198.00 US$ JetPilot 2.3 Academic 98.00 US$ JetPilot4NeXT 2.3 (NeXTLaser) no fee Update 1.x -> 2.x 50.00 US$ Europe shipping 10.00 US$ International shipping 18.00 US$ just license key, mail/fax no fee Members of the EU + 15% VAT UPDATES ======= An update from earlier release to 2.3 can be ordered directly from us. Please don't mix 1.x and 2.x releases in a network. You need NEXTSTEP 3.2, or higher in order to use JetPilot. If you have an earlier release please contact us for a special release. I resell it for Jens the developer here in the US, you can download and run it in demo mode to try it before your buy it! If interested please email me at bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best Regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated On 03/25/97, "Steven Kornreich" wrote: >Can someone recommend a good emulation software to run under ns 4.0 for >intel to drive my new epson color 800 inkjet printer? > >Thanks > >steve@eps.com > > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx520\tx1060\tx1600\tx2120\tx2660\tx3200\tx3720\tx4260\tx4800\tx5320\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Workspace width Date: 28 Mar 1997 18:44:50 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5hh3j2$h9c@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5hg94j$7vp@news.istar.ca> lumina@magi.com wrote: >Anyone know how to readjust the screen width ? >Black Cube AND color monitor Black Cube + color monitor = NeXTdimension! Are you sure this is what you have? _mono_ MegaPixel monitors can be adjusted by pulling off the back cover and poking around with a screwdriver, making sure not to kill yourself in the process. This is documented in a FAQ (both how to adjust it and how not to kill yourself!). If you indeed have a NeXTdimension system with a color monitor then your best bet would be to take the monitor to a TV shop and have them look at it - I don't believe any of the color monitors are easily user adjustable, at least nobody has ever posted anything about how to do it. - Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu PS - If you do have a NeXTcube and it happens to be a turbo (33MHz) will you sell me your motherbaord. I'm desparate for one! :-)
From: Glen Foster <gfoster@pete.intr.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.protocols.smb Subject: need help compiling Samba on Next 3.2 Followup-To: comp.protocols.smb Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:33:16 -0500 Organization: Internet Interstate Message-ID: <loencz4xs3.fsf@pete.intr.net> Compiling Samba 1.9.16p7 on NeXTstep 3.2 fails at linking with: ld: Undefined symbols: _waitpid *** Exit 1 I am compiling only for m68k and with the flags as shown in the Makefile for Next 3.0 and above. Can anybody help me with this? TIA, Glen Foster <gfoster@gfoster.com>
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WordPerfect Date: 28 Mar 1997 21:09:20 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> I am having problems with WordPerfect's special charaters. Any one have any ideas. ThaNX, Andrew
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to read PDF files? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:43:11 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I want to read PDF files, and I have OmniPDF. Unfortunately, both times I've tried to read PDF files I got the following message: ----- This file has been encrypted by Adobe's PDF creation software. Because Adobe has not documented what their encryption does, it is impossible for third party PDF viewers (like this one) to read this document. If you aren't using security, make sure the encryption features are turned off in your PDF creation software. Even non-password protected files can be encrypted and unreadable if you have encryption turned on. ----- So, I followed the link to Adobe to verify that they have PDF readers for just about everything but NEXTSTEP. Then I fired up Executor, told it to emulate System 7 (which Adobe's software demands), downloaded Adobe's free reader for the Mac, and proceeded to install it. Unfortunately, it failed half-way through: ----- executor: Fatal error. emustubs.c:2085; in `_HFSDispatch' 0x18 RESTART ----- So I give up. This is just a last-ditch effort to find out whether anyone else has been successful reading PDF files which have this stupid encryption problem. Anyone? By the way, one of the PDF authors commented to me that he hadn't used any encryption. Of course, that's not the same thing as not having the feature enabled, I think. David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: NextStep -> Openstep Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:28:13 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhk6d$fiv$2@news.platinum.com> References: <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> Cc: mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch In <5h8nkn$o1o$2@elna.ethz.ch> it appeared that mateev@ifor.math.ethz.ch wrote: > Hi, > > We just got Openstep for WindowsNT in our institute and I'd like to convert > some Next code into Openstep. So far I know there exist tool for that, but I > cannot find them. > Can anybody help me ? On OPENSTEP 4.1 for MachOS, they are in myhost:/NextDeveloper/OpenStepConversion/foo Where "foo" is a set of directories with different related stuff. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PGP software? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:38:41 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhkq1$fiv$4@news.platinum.com> References: <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> Cc: quinonez@ucla.edu In <5h05sa$qfq@bolivia.earthlink.net> it appeared that G. Quinonez wrote: > Hello fellow NeXTStep users. > > I am not too familiar with PGP mail. However, I have seen quite a bit of it > recently. I was wondering if anyone knows of software(free/commercial) that > I can use with my NSFIP 3.3? get the latest version of the cryptor & EnhanceMail bundles... others if they interest you. (Although I'm not sure I like the colorize bundle yet... it has a high cool factor, but it scares me.) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail (or some similar directory, i may not have the tree right) The bundle should be uncompressed and placed in the "/LocalLibrary/Mail/" directory (which you may need to create). Doing so will make the bundle effective for all users on you NeXT system (the desired effect since each user can set their own preferences for the mail bundles.) Exit from Mail.app, and restart it, and you'll see the bundle loading messages in your Console. [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Colorizer.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/cryptor.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/EnhanceMail.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/ExtraCommands.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/SunMessage.bundle] [Mail: Loading /LocalLibrary/Mail/Urlifier.bundle] You will also need to get pgp from the archive and compile it. That's a bit of a pain. I don't even know the address of the ftp site, but you can find it by going to http://webcrawler.com and searching for PGP. Go to the site and follow the very complicated instructions. Compiling it is easier than downloading it. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Free NeXT Demos?! Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 23:32:28 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <333A0589.67A7@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hmm, I'm curious who recieved these mailers, and why this is a closed program... From NeXT's website at http://www.next.com/HotNews/ "Test Drive OPENSTEP and WebObjects today! Did you receive our mailer? Sign up now to receive a free demonstration CD-ROM and take OPENSTEP Enterprise and WebObjects for a spin." http://www.next.com/cd-rom -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services---Illinois State University "I first saw NeXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away." - Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc. CEO ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:43:35 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Cc: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com In <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> it appeared that Mark Trombino wrote: > I've just made the switch to Openstep and I'm experiencing odd behavior in > Mail 4.1. Just wondering if anyone out there has experienced the same... > > When composing messages, my signature gets wiped out if I select "Rich Text" > or "Mime" mail. > > Likewise, if I have "Reply in same format" set in Mail's preferences, when I > press the "Reply To" button my signature gets wiped out, and it text messages > always get replied to in NeXTMail. > > Finally, I have both .signature and .signature.rtf files and only the > ..signature file seems to get recognized by Mail. > > BTW, I have EnhanceMail (2.0b5). Anyone else notice this? yes, i did *not* have this problem before i installed EnhanceMail 2.05b. Now I do. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: postings archived?? Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:42:34 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhl1a$fiv$5@news.platinum.com> References: <5gmg3q$kmu$1@its.hooked.net> <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> Cc: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu In <5gn7s6$gfd@usenet.rpi.edu> it appeared that Garance A Drosehn wrote: > cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > > Are these postings archived somewhere? Thanks for any info. > > > > Chris <cchris@hooked.net> > > Check out: > > http://www.stepwise.com/ > > The next newsgroups (except for advocacy) used to be archived > there. I'm not sure if they still are. You can also do nice searches at: http://www.dejanews.com /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: joe berry <berry@phys.psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What comes with OpenStep? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 05:31:08 -0800 Organization: Penn State University Message-ID: <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I've been looking into getting a old Next Box, and then getting the Openstep Academic Bundle. However, I have been wondering, about what Software is included with the operating system. I know they used to ship Mathematica with the Academic Bundle on the black hardware, does anyone if this is still the case. In any event can someone tell me what is included with the bundle. joe berry berry@phys.psu.edu
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: What comes with OpenStep? Date: 28 Mar 1997 21:40:31 -0000 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5hhdsf$j5j@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu> In article <333BC81C.7CD9@phys.psu.edu>, berry@phys.psu.edu wrote: > I've been looking into getting a old Next Box, and then getting the > Openstep Academic Bundle. However, I have been wondering, about what > Software is included with the operating system. I know they used to > ship Mathematica with the Academic Bundle on the black hardware, does > anyone if this is still the case. In any event can someone tell me what > is included with the bundle. It no longer comes with Mathematica. Below is what it _does_ come with. In /NextApps: Edit.app FaxReader.app Grab.app Librarian.app Mail.app NEXTIME.app Preferences.app Preview.app PrintManager.app Terminal.app Webster.app In /NextAdmin: BuildDisk.app Configure.app HostManager.app Installer.app NFSManager.app NetInfoManager.app NetInstallHelper.app SimpleNetworkStarter.app UserManager.app In /NextDeveloper/Apps: EOModeler.app FileMerge.app HeaderViewer.app IconBuilder.app InterfaceBuilder.app MallocDebug.app ProjectBuilder.app Yap.app In /NextDeveloper/Demos: 3View.app BackSpace.app Billiards.app BoinkOut.app BugNeXT.app CDPlayer.app Chess.app DDMViewer.app DarkForest.app Draw.app Keyboard.app Mandelbrot.app Molecule.app ObjectAlloc.app OpenSesame.app PhotoAlbum.app ProductFeedback.app RenderManager.app Sampler.app Sound.app TeXview.app TextEdit.app Zilla.app
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 10:15:42 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Distribution: world Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R1903971015420001@news.dol.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <jack-ya023480001803971122060001@news.tiac.net>, jack@radionics.com (Jack Miller) wrote: > In the midst of all the discussion, can anyone tell me Warnock's email > address (or something equivalent to leadership@apple.com)? I have some > opinions I'd like to tell him/them directly. I believe it's warnock@adobe.com If not, you can get a feedback page at http://www.adobe.com -- Regards, Joe Ragosta joe.ragosta@dol.net See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:35:31 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Distribution: world Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dol.net> References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net>, drifterusa@macconnect.com (John Bauer) wrote: > > Yes, it seems that in many ways Rhapsody is turning into a NeXT clone > (which may not be a bad thing), but it also seems like Apple is doing the > most expedient thing to get their next generation OS out the door. Where > two similar technologies compete, they are opting for the already-proven > and compatible NeXT option. I hold out some hope that once Rhapsody is > shipping and Apple is in better financial health, they will reconsider > incorporating some older Mac technologies into it (like OpenDoc). But I > have to think that meeting their announced ship dates is crucial right > now. This seems plausible. The Game Sprockets lead engineer was optimistic that they'd eventually have a Rhapsody version. And you're right. Nothing can interfere with the ship date. > > This past week's news has made me wonder what makes a Mac a Mac, and if > the loss of many of Apple's technologies makes it time to admit the Mac is > dead. But if I had to point to one thing that makes a Mac what it is, I > would have to say it's the user interface. By all accounts, this > interface will be fully implemented (perhaps with NeXTian enhancements or > options) in Rhapsody. I have to conclude, then, that Rhapsody is a Mac > OS. OTOH, I also have to admit that there may come a time when the Mac as > we know it ceases to exist. To think otherwise is to refuse to believe > that there could ever be something better. Exactly. But all the people saying the Mac is dead are wrong. The Mac's GUI on top of Rhapsody serves the same purpose. The key question is, if you hid the hardware and put a Mac user in front of the screen, will they recognize it?
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:05:39 -0500 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net/ In article <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi>, samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net wrote: > In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, > Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: > >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for > >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. > > Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of > two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, > memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. > > Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new > 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we > see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it > really translates to faster overall system speed... Not true. Macs are _already_ outperforming x86 boxes running NT by a significant margin on real world apps. (See my web site for examples). Now, the 500 MHz X-704 is reported to be 60% faster than the 200 Mhz 604e even on existing hardware. Thats not great, but it's a substantial difference. The faster busses and high speed cache of the G3 will be even better. But since the 200 MHz 604e easily beats a 200 MHz Pro and the new chips are _at least_ 60% faster, PPC is doing quite well.
From: ericb@pobox.com (Eric Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 29 Mar 1997 08:20:44 GMT Organization: Penn State University Sender: emb121@r02a01.cac.psu.edu. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hijcs$22pe@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <drifterusa-1903972358450001@accs-as802-dp03.atln.grid.net> <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dn In article <joe.ragosta-2003970935310001@wil63.dol.net> joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) writes: > This seems plausible. The Game Sprockets lead engineer was optimistic that > they'd eventually have a Rhapsody version. True, but he *does* have a certain bias. People tend to think their own work is important and will continue to be viewed as such in the future. -- Eric Bennett ( ericb@pobox.com ; http://www.pobox.com/~ericb ) Microsoft: for those of you who don't want to go anywhere today.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Rhapsody - Whatshallmacallit Date: 27 Mar 1997 17:47:19 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5hebr7$353$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5h9epr$1ij@news.ppp.net> <333b131d.53199320@news.mindspring.com> <5hbehs$5gb$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> <5hbq9s$dlp$2@news.platinum.com> <3339C06F.4827@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5hcm64$d3o$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <333A0C5D.4594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Cc: eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu In <333A0C5D.4594@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: > John Rudd wrote: > > > > In <3339C06F.4827@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" wrote: > > > Donate the WHOLE project to GNU, > > > and make it free and called it GNUstep! (Sorry, I'm dreaming ;)) > > > > > hey, Hey, HEY! You just caused me to loose 3 hours of productive work > > daydreaming about such a possability.. DON'T DO THAT! > > LOL! ;-) Glad to add a little spice to your day! > > > *still waiting for the second coming of Christ, and the GPL of Nextstep* > > Hmm, JUST THINK ABOUT IT FOR A MOMENT, SERIOUSLY. > > What if Apple-NeXT did this, gave the OS FREE, and SIMPLY made the tools > to run on the OS, and hardware?! It would support it for cost, but the > OS would be free! > > This business model seems to be right over the horizon (a radical shift, > but with the "Linux Times", IMHO), see the the White Paper on the 3 > Phases of the Software Industry at > http://www.net-community.com/WhitePapers/phases.html > > Net-Community > http://www.net-community.com/ > does support FREE software > > This excerpt from their website: > > "NET-Community was founded in 1995 with the purpose of developing and > supporting free software for the Internet and business community.  We > believe that in the long-term free software will provide individuals and > businesses with the most flexible and open solutions for their needs; > while expensive proprietary solutions will be slowly phased out...." > Don't forget Cygnus. We were founded quite a while ago, and we support and develop free software too (mostly around the gcc and gdb tool chains). And there's another company (Cygclic?) that does CVS. Alladin does some free software too, I think (but also some proprietary stuff). Personally, I think a lot of good would come from Nextstep/Openstep-Mach/Rhapsody switching to either an mk (like mklinux) or Mach 4 kernel, and using the "Lites" server OS (a BSD 4.4 server). Lites can already run linux and *bsd binaries, and you could probably add Solaris binaries too (Netbsd on Sparc, with Solaris libraries, can run Solaris binaries -- the same thunking engine could probably be incorporated into Lites if Lites were ported to Sparc). MacOS could live on as another Server OS alongside mklinux and Lites. As long as they're all multi-servers, you could even run them concurrently -- run all of your inet services out of the mklinux or Lites environment, and run your user apps either out of the Openstep-on-Lites or MacOS environments (and with a decent graphical environment and some added thunking engines, you might be able to run apps from one environment under the other environments -- Though such a graphical environment may be slow). If you got other OS vendors to join in you might be able to pool resources (though, I think IBM tried and failed at this). Get SGI to support IRIX as a Mach server OS, and have them maintain the kernel on MIPS platforms. Get Sun to support Solaris as a Mach server OS, and have them maintain the kernel on Sparc. Apple and/or IBM would maintain the PPC and/or Intel kernels, with Apple providing Mac, linux, and Lites server OS' and IBM providing an AIX and OS/2 server OS. Then, last, you'd get DEC to maintain the kernel on Alpha and provide a Digital-Unix server OS. Each group could provide their Server OS on other hardwares as they saw fit (as their market demanded). The kernels could even be maintained by a central organization like OSF/Open-Group, with each hardware vendor giving fixes and such as new versions or bugs came up. I know that's a bit of a holy grail, but I'd love to see something like that.. at that point, the Kernel would be free and standard, and you'd have at least 2 examples (Lites and linux) to use as a starting point for building your own experimental server OS if you wanted. If/when new hardware came along, you'd just port the kernel, linux and/or Lites, and give that as a starting base for any company that wants to supply a proprietary server OS. Companies would make their money by selling the Server OS and everything that lives on top of it (Macintosh server OS and GUI, Sun OS server OS + Openwindows, etc) and since the thunking engines require the native binaries (like, say, the Solaris thunking engine requires you to have the actual Solaris libs), you'd still have to buy Solaris from Sun to run Solaris apps under Linux -- but the point is you'd be able to do run Solaris apps under Linux, Mac OS, Nextstep, etc (and visa versa). It is a degree of openness that I think would bennefit everyone except Microsoft, but I also think it's a degree of openness that intimidates all of the companies that need to be key players. I think Apple could kick the door open by providing their OS's up front (even if they kept Nextstep as a proprietary Server OS, instead of just as a Proprietary GUI/Lib that ran on the Lites free Server OS), and then try to get IBM to at least re-activate their OS/2 project of the same concept, and put it all on Intel as well as PPC. I think that would be something compelling enough to attract DEC (who already have a mk server OS) and Sun (who already have Intel, Sparc and PPC software, and could bennefit from reducing some of their cross platform resources to concentrate on the higher level aspects). In fact, all of the companies would recieve some bennefit at that level -- the OSF and free software enthusiasts would be doing a lot of work on the kernel and drivers that bennefit the proprietary server OS' as a byproduct of doing so for the free Server OS' (assuming drivers are at the Mach layer, and not at a higher layer -- which is something this model requires anyway). But it gives everyone something good and useful -- free software gets the backing of commercial software companies including their apps, commercial software companies get the enthusiasts and free development and support from the free software community, and users (free or proprietary) know that their OS will live on past any corporate wars, and they'll be able to use their legacy apps through transitions (thanks to the thunking engines). If Apple and IBM start it, and they manage to convince DEC and/or Sun to follow, I think they'd probably attract SGI too. But, again, I think that's one of those Holy Grails -- Something that many would agree is an ideal, and one we'll never actually see due to the imperfect nature of the beasts in question (consumers included). (and you thought I was kidding when I said I lost 3 hours of work due to that suggestion!!!! ;-) Take all of that and combine it with migratable threads (the ability of a thread/process to move from one box to another transparently and dynamically at run time -- hetergenously or homogenously), and I'll be technically happy for quite some time. (get that big iron working for you, but transparently as the load on your desktop box requires it -- transparently to you as a user or programmer. Need more horsepower for your job? Don't replace your desktop box, just add another 3 or 10 boxes next to it) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: OPENSTEP/NT Fonts Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:59:13 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <333AA761.6D5D@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Since I didn't get any response, I'm posting this again. Can I copy/install my NEXTSTEP/Mach fonts so that they work with OPENSTEP/NT ? If so, how? Please e-mail me at: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu Thank you. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task References: <8D3D403.09B8000239.uuout@moondog.com> <5g9imk$6e$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jyh-1503971133140001@10.0.2.15> <maury-1703971531050001@199.166.204.230> <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> <5gnbn8$svl@uuneo.neosoft.com> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333cf538.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 29 Mar 97 10:55:52 GMT rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: >In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: >> >> (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of >> a True (TM) modern operating system". > > >But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 >months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more >times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 >years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. > >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK > rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available >---------------------------------------------------------------- > Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS and anything MS has. Darren
From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FORTRAN (against my better judgement) Date: 27 Mar 1997 23:11:54 GMT Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Message-ID: <5heurq$je@picasso.op.net> References: <5he7ms$ksg$1@netty.york.ac.uk> Cc: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk In <5he7ms$ksg$1@netty.york.ac.uk> -bat. wrote: > So, I find myself in the position of being more-or-less forced to > complie up some FORTRAN code to work under OpenStep. Is there a > commercial compiler available for this - or has anyone tried using g77 > (or whatever the GNU thing is called). Iam reluctant to get my hands > dirty with this and would prefer a commercial solution. All help > gratefully receuved. > > -bat. > Try f2c, a Fortan to C converter. I've been using this, along with NeXT's C compiler, for years and it works just fine.
From: samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 29 Mar 1997 14:38:43 +0200 Organization: ex Message-ID: <5hj2gj$sq6@vuokko.uta.fi> References: <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111> <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi> <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net> >> In article <AF55B0B4-10F244@194.45.219.111>, >> Norbert Pfaff <Norbert.Pfaff@pk.she.de> wrote: >> >With PPC´s running over 500 mhz and Intel not much more than 200 for >> >the next future, they will not easily going to NT. >In article <5gqreo$6ee@vuokko.uta.fi>, >samu@*remove_this_to_e-mail_me*usa.net wrote: >> Now, now. This is silly. Comparing just processor speeds (at MHz) of >> two CPUs of different architecture, with different memory controllers, >> memory subsystems, system bus designs, OSes & so forth is just silly. >> >> Only when we have the new PowerPC (ex CHRP) machines out with new >> 87-100 Mhz buses operating on faster RAM and better designs will we >> see if there's any point in having just more Megahertz and if it >> really translates to faster overall system speed... In article <joe.ragosta-2103970005390001@wil51.dol.net>, Joe Ragosta <joe.ragosta@dol.net> wrote: >Not true. Macs are _already_ outperforming x86 boxes running NT by a >significant margin on real world apps. (See my web site for examples). Definitely. I know this, but I don't think me and Norbert Pfaff were referring just to PPC/NT configurations, but to whether it is viable to switch, because Exponential is going to blow everybody's socks off. I was merely reacting to this by saying that I'm not sure it is useful to talk ONLY about "CPU this", "CPU that" at "Mhz this" and "Mhz that". >Now, the 500 MHz X-704 is reported to be 60% faster than the 200 Mhz 604e >even on existing hardware. Thats not great, but it's a substantial >difference. The faster busses and high speed cache of the G3 will be even I think it's great (compare that to the increase in speed caused by MMX instructions in Pentiums), but those are done on preproduction chips, with tinkered ROMs and who knows what apps. We'll only see when we see :) >better. But since the 200 MHz 604e easily beats a 200 MHz Pro and the new >chips are _at least_ 60% faster, PPC is doing quite well. Yes, I wasn't talking about this either. I'm all for Mac/PPC/Rhapsody and so forth, but I'm not silly enough to say that just pumping up the CPU speed to 1 GHz with the current system & memory buses and devices is gonna solve any inherent bottlenecks in systems design :) And I can see that you're not that silly either - we were just talking about different things. Best regards, Samu Mielonen -- Copyright 1996 Samu Mielonen. All rights reserved. <samu at usa dot net> Unsolicited advertising sent to my e-mail addresses is unauthorized use of my computer equipment as well as a form of mail harassment. A charge of $1000 will be applied to senders of such messages. News headers have been modified.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rumba--'unknown host' message Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:01:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970329150100.KAA09723@ladder01.news.aol.com> I'm trying to use rumba to connect my NeXTCube running NS 3.1 to my desktop PC (TCP-IP wouldn't load on the laptop) running Windows for Workgroups 3.11. I have Rumba 0.4--I can get FTP transfers to work from various Windows clients on the desktop, so the hardware is all okay, and I do have TCP setup on the desktop. I've tried every variation on rumba* //desktop/zipdrive zip -n which I can think of. The laptop can access the above shared drive as \\DESKTOP\ZIPDRIVE--why can't the NeXT find it? I'd appreciate any insight anyone can offer--thanks! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to read PDF files? Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:19:35 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970329151901.KAA10709@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hhhhv$sf8@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Acrobat Reader won't work install under Executor because it expects to be able to install/create/update the Adobe Type Manager init/extension. I believe one person was trying to get it running without ATM, but doubt that would work. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Brennan" <brennan@byte-back.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help!! Next server Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 23:09:13 -0800 Organization: www.byte-back.com Message-ID: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> I have been trying to find the answer to this question on my own. However, I can not find a direct answer. My question is how can I make a NextStep web server. I know that WebObjects can create sites really easliy, but I am more concerned with servering those sites. Is there third party web servers? Will Unix based web servers run on Next? Multihoming? I have worked with NT, and I love my Mac. Since I will soon be adopting your OS, I figured this would be a better choice over NT. Any info that you can provide would be appreicated. The more the better. Brennan McAdams
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone notice this behavior in Mail 4.1? Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:57:19 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329145635.21780D-100000@kira> References: <5gmkhi$5n@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gary W. Longsine" <gary@screaming.org> cc: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com In-Reply-To: <5hhl37$fiv$6@news.platinum.com> This is caused by EnhanceMail and it has been said that it will be fixed in the next release. TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WordPerfect Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:46:37 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329144441.21780B-100000@kira> References: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Andrew Jones <andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu> In-Reply-To: <5hhc20$odq@cocoa.brown.edu> > I am having problems with WordPerfect's special charaters. > Any one have any ideas. Didn't we just go through this with someone else? Are all the fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts? /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Cyrillic.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Greek.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPHelv-Multinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-BoldMultinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-BoldObliqueMultinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-Cyrillic.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-Multinational.font/: /LocalLibrary/Fonts/WPRoman-ObliqueMultinational.font/: what font are you using? What characters? do they work in other fonts? What release of WP are you using, on what arch? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OmniImageFilter Help! Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:54:35 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329145331.21780C-100000@kira> References: <1997Mar23.224217.2317@juncol.juniata.edu> <5hhkb9$fiv$3@news.platinum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Gary W. Longsine" <gary-nospam-@screaming.org> cc: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu In-Reply-To: <5hhkb9$fiv$3@news.platinum.com> > > I am running NS 3.0, and OmniWeb 1.0. I have downloaded and installed > Try upgrading to OmniWeb 2.5... the current release. I do not believe that OW 2.5 will run on NS 3.0, I think it requires at least 3.2 & the EOF patch TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Mar29163713@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 29 Mar 1997 23:37:13 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Networking OpenStep (Print Server) to WindowsNT Distribution: world Hi all, here is the scenario: I have a NeXTstation Turbo (hades) w/ NeXT printer attached and I have a Pentium machine (pegasus) running WindowsNT and OpenStep. I've successfully networked the two machines together when *both* are running NeXTSTEP and OpenStep (hades acts as a remote print server to pegasus, and there is also filesystem sharing on both ends). Now I'd like to do the same for WindowsNT and hades. Problem is (or is it?) that pegasus is the primary netinfo server and the primary netinfo server is off-line when WindowsNT is running (same machine). When I reboot pegasus to run WindowsNT, hades freezes up becoming unusable. So how can I easily get WindowsNT on pegasus to send print requests to hades? On a related note, do I have to do anything special in WindowsNT to convert print output from standard apps (Word, etc.) to PostScript before it sends it down the pipe to hades? Thanks, Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: stone@enetis.net (Kevin and Brian Stone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:32:03 -0700 Organization: E-Net Information Services (605-341-ENET) Message-ID: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Darren Reely (dreely@cyberstore.ca) wrote: : rlove@neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: : >In <jyh-1703972349470001@10.0.2.15> Jean-Yves Hervé wrote: : >> : >> (1) Because Rhapsody will have PMT, protected memory, "all the features of : >> a True (TM) modern operating system". : > : > : >But there is nothing Mac needs more. I've owned a Mac for 2 : >months now and have rebooted it due to machine lock ups more : >times in these two months than I have my NeXT in the 6-7 : >years I've owned it. Macs are just not reliable. : > : >---------------------------------------------------------------- : > Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK : > rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available : >---------------------------------------------------------------- : > : Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac OS. : Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS and : anything MS has. : Darren I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD save your sanity. I implore you. Drop me an E-mail on what was screwed up about your Mac... what software you were running... third party extensions... and when the errors occured. I have 10 years of stable MacOS use behind me. I'll see if I can diagnose the problem for you and give you some idea of how to fix it. :) -Kevin Stone Stone Entertainment stone@enetis.net www.enetis.net/~stone
From: webmaster@nasma.com (Clive Swanston - Webmaster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NextStep user Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 03:39:58 GMT Organization: National Air and Space Museum Australia Message-ID: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> Sorry its taken so long for a reply. I didn't get much help from the arsholes who hang around the next groups so I felt that I had to reply...even if by now you've worked it out. I had the same problem when trying to install NS 3.3 for the first time, in fact I spent about two months fucking around before I got anywhere. I found the inforation I needed in NeXT ANSWER #1933 off the NeXT web site, it goes something like this: At the point in the installation where you're asked for the SCSI adapter your CD-ROM is attached to - choose "1" the Adaptec 154x. When asked for the adapter or hard disk controller that your hard disk is attached to - choose "8" because your EIDE/ATAPI drivers are on another disk. Insert this disk before typing "8". A new list of drivers will appear, and on the "second page of the list" you should find the EIDE/ATAPI drivers. Choose the one you need. From this point the installation should be going OK and it should be doing some kind of boot stuff before giving you the option to install NS 3.3 on a particutar hard disk and then going about the partitioning stuff. But wait... I wanted to install NS 3.3 on a brand new 2Gb EIDE drive I got especially for my new OS but for some reason NS does'nt like EIDE drives larger than 1Gb - this fact alone cost me 3 weeks of fucking around! I bring this up because I kept getting a WS error and the screen would go black just like you described. One last drama I had with my video card... I have an integrated Cirrus Logic video card in my IBM PC 330. NS hates this type of video card! This gave me the black screen too! Take a deep breath... It WILL come together. I'm constantly told that NS is the best OS in the world, I don't believe it yet, but it is working for me, and I keep getting neat little suprises from time to time. Eventually, us newbies will get a "help net" together for other new users and make the transition to NS just a little bit less painful. Regards,
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 30 Mar 1997 04:09:35 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hkp1v$hfp$1@news.platinum.com> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Cc: stone@enetis.net In <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> it appeared that Kevin and Brian Stone wrote: > I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > save your sanity. > I implore you. Drop me an E-mail on what was screwed up about > your Mac... what software you were running... third party extensions... and > when the errors occured. I have 10 years of stable MacOS use behind > me. I'll see if I can diagnose the problem for you and give you some > idea of how to fix it. :) Kevin, I'm sorry, but this really inspires me to walk right on up to The Rude Line, and I may just slip right on over it. This is the stupidest thing I've read in weeks. If a Windows user said this to you, you would laugh at them. Laugh now, at yourself, please. I implore you. Get a clue. ;) MacOS and Windows (pre-NT) suffer from the same severe architectural defect which allows programs to trample each-other in memory, or even trample the OS. No amount of administration can overcome this simple, backward, OS design flaw. Typically you can mitigate the problem by carefully testing software before it is deployed, and not using features that cause the system to crash -- but this won't take you over the goal line, like a well-designed OS will. On NeXTSTEP, or any other decent system, an ordinary (non-root) user is hard pressed to do ANYTHING to cause a system to crash, even if they, and several of their friends, try. Ordinary NeXTSTEP (and other UNIX) boxes have uptimes measured in weeks or months, not days. On MacOS or Windows, a cat walking across the keyboard is likely to take the box down. A two year old playing with the mouse is almost certain to do so, within minutes. Even a modest amount of normal use will take the box down within a few weeks at most. If your MacOS or Windows box <doesn't> crash, then you are probably not making very heavy use of it, or you might be experiencing the statistically unlikely higher end of the bell curve -- not to worry, you ARE alone, or very nearly so. Case in point: we just acquired a brand new $5k PowerMac. It crashed 3 times in the first hour that I used it. What was I doing? 1. dragging a small folder into the trash can 2. reading a small file in an editor 3. reading a different small file in an editor Now just what the hell do you think you would do to prevent the system from crashing in this case? Stop deleting and reading files? And what the hell good is a $5k machine running an OS that doesn't let you read or delete files? Or one where your skilled systems administrator recommends that you don't read or delete files, because that may cause the system to crash? Don't answer that. It's rhetorical. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Date: 30 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "Ian Leslie" <ileslie@zianet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep 3.3 with System Commander Date: 30 Mar 97 05:02:00 GMT Organization: Southwest Cyberport Message-ID: <01bc3cc7$ef03e6a0$987c86cc@ileslie> I have System Commander installed on my Gateway 486. So far I have three DOS promary partitions, one with Windows 95 in it. I left 201MB unpartitioned for installation of NextStep 3.3. I got everything set (IRQ, DMA, PORT) for the SCSI host adapter. I put in the NeXT boot floppy, then when asked put in the driver floppy, then the CD took over. All seemed to be going well, then!!. I received a message about "panic" and other stuff which I'm sure is important. What was really bad was that Windows 95 got messed up. Certain parts like linking, ver.dll, and Office were damaged. Strange. Has someone pulled off this install. Perhaps there is a way that I can at least protect the other partitions. Should I try and hide the others, either with fdisk or Sytem Commander's SCDISK? I am a wee bit fearful to try again. Thanks for your help. Ian Leslie, ileslie@zianet.com New Mexico,USA
From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Mar29170300@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 30 Mar 1997 00:03:00 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Networking breaks Mathematica 2.x??? Distribution: world Hi all, I've recently networked a NS black machine running Mathematica 2.x with an NS Pentium machine. Problem is that Mathematica no longer works! It launches, but then when I ask it to evaluate some expression the disk cursor just spins endlessly... I'm guessing this has something to do with launching a remote vs local math kernel -- since it was working fine before the networking. Help! Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk (David Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:46:11 GMT Message-ID: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Could someone answer a few questions for me. 1. If I upgrade from NeXTStep 3.3 (Black hardware) to OpenStep/Mach 4.X will my apps I have under 3.3 still work? 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade Thanks David -- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep --> OpenStep Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:28:17 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330102533.3327A-100000@kira> References: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Webster <David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <859736771.955.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> > 1. If I upgrade from NeXTStep 3.3 (Black hardware) to OpenStep/Mach > 4.X will my apps I have under 3.3 still work? YES! NeXTStep apps will run under OS/MACH.... compiling 3.3 apps under 4.x isn't possible (well, not without some big steps) > 2. Is there a performance hit for the upgrade Yes, as would be expected. There was a big one going from 2.x to 3.x, and going to 4.x is another one. If you are not going to be compiling programs or other problems that are similarly CPU-intensive, you should be able to load the NeXT with RAM (see 32RAM as a minimum, 64 as a good idea, and more as better. TjL
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> In-Reply-To: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac >: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >: and anything MS has. > > I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > save your sanity. You fail to understand the point. You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: New NextStep user Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:56:38 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EnDhC6q00iV9Q3r0VP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> In-Reply-To: <333de055.0@139.134.5.33> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Mar-97 Re: New NextStep user by Clive S. - Webmaster@nas > Sorry its taken so long for a reply. I didn't get much help from the > arsholes who hang around the next groups so I felt that I had to > reply...even if by now you've worked it out. Clue: referring to people as "arsholes" is a good way to not get help. Try being polite instead. The NeXT newsgroups are full of helpful people and there are lots of web resources available, too. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help!! Next server References: <5hfr1b$5ab$1@kelp.mbay.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333f1f38.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 31 Mar 97 02:19:36 GMT "Brennan" <brennan@byte-back.com> wrote: > My question is how can I make a NextStep >web server. I know that WebObjects can create sites really easliy, but I am >more concerned with servering those sites. Is there third party web >servers? Will Unix based web servers run on Next? Multihoming? Go see my web page at http://www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/openstep.html and look at my personal notes regarding web HTTP server setup. As for multihoming, I think there is a piece of software out there that handle under NextStep. Perhaps some else can give that information and success story. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 31 Mar 97 02:35:39 GMT Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >>: and anything MS has. >> >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD >> save your sanity. > >You fail to understand the point. > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this message, I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the system just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! Darren
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm247-29.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Cc: dreely@cyberstore.ca In <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely wrote: > Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's > >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti > >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than Mac > >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS > >>: and anything MS has. > >> > >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost > >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate > >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what > >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the > >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD > >> save your sanity. > > > >You fail to understand the point. > > > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about > >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should > >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > > Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this message, > I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I > know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac > "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the system > just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! > > > Darren > I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is almost absolutely stable. The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the hardware issues. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: me@my.net (speedstr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:06:37 GMT Organization: up.net Message-ID: <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >You fail to understand the point. > >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > >-Chuck > Why is that? Why should a computer be any different than anything else? You ever had your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the machine? Furnace go out? A computer is just a machine. The os just enables the user to use the machine. > Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer > ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. >
From: me@my.net (speedstr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:09:13 GMT Organization: up.net Message-ID: <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >In <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Darren Reely wrote: >> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >> >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 29-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's >> >Task by Kevin and B. Stone@eneti >> >>: Oh, how true. From what I've seen, Win95 is more more reliable than >Mac >> >>: OS. Next OS are light years a head in reliability, compared to Mac OS >> >>: and anything MS has. >> >> >> >> I'd show you my Mac if you can get the plane ticket... it almost >> >> never crashes. Course, unlike either of you, I know how to administrate >> >> it and take care of problems that arise, becuase, regardless of what >> >> platform you use, problems will arise. If you're inexperienced with the >> >> computer, or aren't familiar with trouble shooting techniques, then GOD >> >> save your sanity. >> > >> >You fail to understand the point. >> > >> >You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >> >which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >> >be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. >> >> Yes, he misses the point. And being the first quoted person on this >message, >> I just have to say to the second person (which I originally missed) that I >> know a great deal about keeping computers up and running. At least his Mac >> "almost never crashes". When an application crashes, the rest of the >system >> just keeps on ticking. When Nextstep crashes, I'm extremely surprised! >> >> >> Darren >> > >I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. >Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is >almost absolutely stable. > >The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the >hardware issues. > >-- >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next computers. I'm also sure that if that subject ever came up "before" apple decided to buy it, you treated it just the same way as you do any other system that is apple. But now all of a sudden, it's the next best thing to sliced bread. Geez, pathetic
From: "Kurt E. Huhner" <khuhner@communique.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Icond Dock for NT? Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 23:39:42 -0600 Organization: NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com Message-ID: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find where to download it? Any suggestions on download loactions?
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:25:04 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <InDuoUW00iWm02M7o0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> In-Reply-To: <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 31-Mar-97 Re: Tevanian's Task by speedstr@my.net >> You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >> which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >> be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. > > Why is that? Computers should be user friendly. Crashing is not user friendly. Computers shouldn't crash-- at least if they can avoid doing so. > Why should a computer be any different than anything else? You ever had > your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the machine? Furnace go out? > A computer is just a machine. The os just enables the user to use the > machine. The difference is that you are talking about hardware failures. If the computer encounters a hardware failure, then fine, it'll probably crash. It's possible to write an OS which can handle software errors without crashing, and such a machine can literally run for years without needing to reboot. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 13:03:27 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5hocmv$m0e$1@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> In-Reply-To: <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> On 03/31/97, speedstr wrote: > You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can > almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next > computers. > This is just plain insulting: most of the contributors to this thread from the NeXT side have been members of the CoMMUNITY for many years, and have been unstinting in offering their wisdom and advice in that time. I don't recall seeing your moniker before, though. Perhaps "Johnny come lately" might be a more appropriate sobriquet for you? Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: 31 Mar 1997 14:29:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm243-14.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5hohp6$2ru$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f22fb.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> <5hn9qf$4ii$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> Cc: me@my.net In <333f62a3.50167327@news.up.net> speedstr wrote: > On 31 Mar 1997 03:07:59 GMT, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) > wrote: > > > > >I would just add that the saying 'It just works' is very true about NeXTstep. > >Well, I have the advantage of using black NeXT hardware, so the system is > >almost absolutely stable. > > > >The stability of NextStep on Intel boxes is sometimes lower due to the > >hardware issues. > > > >-- > >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University > You people make me laugh. With the exception of a very few, I can > almost guarentee that none of you ever gave a hoot about Next > computers. I'm also sure that if that subject ever came up "before" > apple decided to buy it, you treated it just the same way as you do > any other system that is apple. > But now all of a sudden, it's the next best thing to sliced > bread. Geez, pathetic > Just notice where he was posting from. Me@Default.Setup. BTW: What is Apple? Just kidding. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icond Dock for NT? Date: 31 Mar 1997 18:20:16 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc3e00$2b2fb440$5fca92cf@default> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> This may not be what you're looking for, but the following address will lead you to a very attractive and functional NeXT-alike icon dock called, aptly enough, IconDock, for Win95 (It probably works in NT, but I can't confirm this): http://home1.gte.net/everblue/index.htm Kurt E. Huhner <khuhner@communique.net> wrote in article <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net>... > I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep > for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find > where to download it? > > Any suggestions on download loactions? > -- **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net
From: hnle@lazrus.cca.rockwell.com (Hai N. Le) Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for NeXTstep font utilities Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:31:15 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins, Cedar Rapids, IA Message-ID: <5hoosj$ho2@castor.cca.rockwell.com> Originator: hnle@porter.cca.rockwell.com I'm looking for a software called T1utils-1.1 . According to the comp.fonts FAQ web page, this is a collection of command-line programs that manipulate PS Type1 fonts. These programs are supposed to be available at the NeXTsoftware archives , cs.orst.edu, but I can't download them for some reasons. Please let me know if you have a copy of T1utils-1.1. Thanks. Hai Le
From: abridge@wheel.dcn.davis.ca.us (Adam Bridge) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Tevanian's Task Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 10:51:30 -0800 Organization: Bridge Family Message-ID: <abridge-3103971051310001@dcn53.dcn.davis.ca.us> References: <5hkjb3$dt3@enet1.enetis.net> <onDgVVy00iWW01rV4i@andrew.cmu.edu> <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net> In article <333f61fc.50000695@news.up.net>, me@my.net (speedstr) wrote: >On Sun, 30 Mar 1997 15:09:05 -0500, Charles William Swiger ><cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > >> >>You fail to understand the point. >> >>You shouldn't have to know how to administer a computer or worry about >>which software is installed and being run by users. Your machine should >>be stable and never crash regardless of what any user-level process does. >> >>-Chuck >> >Why is that? Why should a computer be any different than anything >else? You ever had your car break down? Your vcr tape get suck in the >machine? Furnace go out? A computer is just a machine. The os just >enables the user to use the machine. >> Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer >> ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- >> I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. >> Computers should NOT crash. I was STUNNED when my VAX crashed because that was something that virtually NEVER happened. NOTHING I could do as a non-priviledged user could take down VMS. That's the way things are supposed to work. It's these damn piddly little OSes like the MacOS and Windoze that have raised expectations that the entire computer's software environment should be allowed to fail when a single program does. The protection of system resources is a fundamental reason we have operating systems. Now, finally, desktop systems are thinking that being as reliable as my 1987 VAXstation 2000 would be a Good Thing. I desire a "sleep" mode in Rhapsody so my system will powerdown to some minimal configuration to keep things ticking but not quite gone so I'll restart my system to upgrade system software ONLY. That's the way it's supposed to be. Thinking we may actually get there is wonderful. -- Adam Bridge
From: jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca (Jan Sacharuk) Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newer version of Emacs for Open/NeXTStep? Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:39:49 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> The version of emacs that shipped with Openstep is hopelessly old. Is there a newer version that'll run under Openstep/Nextstep? Thanks
From: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Font software Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:01:54 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5hp8o2$du2@ecuador.earthlink.net> I was reading in "The complete guide to NeXTStep user environment" by Michael Shebanek and it mentioned a program for the Mac called Metamorphosis for converting TrueType and Postcript Type 1 and 3 into NeXTstep format. Does anyone know of this program, or of a replacement? Thank you for your response. Please respond directly to quinonez@ucla.edu (NeXTMail preferred) -- _____________________________________________ G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@ucla.edu> NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0 NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Font software Date: 31 Mar 1997 22:26:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970331222600.RAA01950@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5hp8o2$du2@ecuador.earthlink.net> There are a number of different font conversion programs available on the various FTP sites, and there's at least one commercial one as well. Altsys Metarmophosis (on the Mac) isn't available any longer I'm afraid. For my part, I'm really wishing that there was font creation software for the NeXT--does anyone know if Typeology from Pinnacle ever reached the status of a usable beta? Or who owns whatever code was created now? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Shrijeet Mukherjee <shm@cs.uoregon.edu> Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.iris-explorer,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: modular apps development Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 15:17:17 -0800 Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970331151556.1805B-100000@suffix.cs.uoregon.edu> References: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tibor_L=E1szlo_P=E1li?= <tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu> In-Reply-To: <19970323192119365839@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> On Sun, 23 Mar 1997, [ISO-8859-1] Tibor L=E1szlo P=E1li wrote: > Hi, >=20 > I am considering to purchase some sort of modular and graphical > application development system fo unix. Until now three options came to > mind: IRIS Explorer, SIMULINK, and LabView (is this also on unix?). The > main purpose would be off line spectrum handling and curve fitting to > user defined procedures. Flexibility, speed and easy programming would > be the main concern. I would welcome suggestions as to what package > should I have a closer look at or if there would be other candidates. >=20 depends on your needs, but khoros from khoral research maybe a good candidate ... www.khoral.com .. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Shrijeet Mukherjee, Network services group, 250F Computing Center=20 =09=09 University of Oregon Eugene, OR97403=09 GTF, Network Services Group.=09=09(off) 541-346-1698 =09=09=09=09=09(res) 541-485-4968 http://www.cs.uoregon.edu/~shm =20 email:shm@cs.uoregon.edu, shm@ns.uoregon.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------ venimus, vidimus, dolavimus (we came, we saw, we hacked) =09=09=09=09=09 --- Linux
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Icond Dock for NT? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:57:05 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33404140.4440@earthlink.net> References: <333F4E1E.4E75@communique.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: khuhner@communique.net Kurt E. Huhner wrote: > > I recently saw some info for an "Icon dock" for Openstep > for NT. After searching high and low, I couldn't find > where to download it? > > Any suggestions on download loactions? Here's where I got it along time ago: http://206.124.65.1:80/everblue/index.htm I'm not sure if it's still there or not. It's a "dock" for NT. You don't need Openstep to run it. It looks almost identical to the real NeXT dock. STEVE K.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Newer version of Emacs for Open/NeXTStep? Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 16:48:33 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970331164814.10573B-100000@kira> References: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jan Sacharuk <jan@scapa.cs.ualberta.ca> In-Reply-To: <5hpav5$i1o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> checkout http://nice.ethz.ch/~chris TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "NEXTSTEP computers come with a set of uncomplicated yet powerful networking app lications, ... which reside in the /NextAdmin directory." -- NeXT online docs (01_Planning.rtf)
From: troch@lonestar.texas.com (Rod Troch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Does NS 3.3 include the same tools as NS 1.0? Date: 31 Mar 1997 21:57:41 -0600 Organization: Don't mess with TEXAS Sender: troch@lonestar.texas.com Message-ID: <m3d8sf1jk9.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> Hello, Does NS 3.3 come with WriteNow and ScorePlayer, as were supplied with NS 1.0? It looks like my 3.3 build is not complete if they are still included. If not, I am glad I have a complete backup of the old 1.0 before the HD finally bit the dust. Rod -- Rod Troch N2ZVV | troch@texas.com | Don't mess with TEXAS. http://www.texas.com/ | ftp://lonestar.texas.com/ | FTP for PGP key

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