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From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D? Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 07:06:12 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32F26CC5.5778@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ct27t$9ie@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out following Web-Site and S/W solidThinking 2.5: http://www.gestel.com/ http://www.gestel.it/ YoungHoon Kil (Computer Graphics Freelancer) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: cc++ not working Message-ID: <1997Jan31.134240.26105@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 31 Jan 97 13:42:40 MST References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090747.22995B-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Distribution: world Cc: jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu I think that you need to linl hte C++ library with the switch -lg++ -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: leivian@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IMA4 for NeXTTIME Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:45:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5cuhog$3pf@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> does anyone know where to get a ima4 decompressor I was trying to show the starwars clips from CNN's web page I got this message from NEXTTIME... Jan 31 20:33:38 tiger NEXTIME[3126]: Sound Media: Cannot play sound from star.wars.jabba.27.1.2.mov. Sound is not available or requires a missing ima4 decompressor. (2) -Bob Leivian
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 31 Jan 1997 08:36:13 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Cc: lws@transarc.com In <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Lyle Seaman wrote: > Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) > solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap > file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in > behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined > interface. Or am I missing something? > > > Sorry to continue a thread which someone tried to kill pre-emptively, > but I confess, I only subscribe to these groups intermittently... > Maybe a techie could fill me in on what is wrong with this idea, but, why couldn't you create a paging VM system that had a tree-structure -- e.g. a /private/vm/swapdir directory, and a linear swapfile for each process? Since processes are not unlikely to page out in a stack, the per-process swapfiles would be really able to shrink down when pages were freed. And when the process is killed, its swapfile is deleted. I can't see that this would be that much slower than the current linear swapfile system. You just have a some memory with address pointers in it that take you to the pages for each process. But I know nada about kernel level stuff. Clue me in. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Decompressing .zip files? Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:22:18 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5csrma$r47@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5clta3$jmh@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net wrote: >Is there program that will decompress PKWARE's dos pkzip/pkunzip? unzip -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: HELP! User account keeps quitting... Message-ID: <E4vrs3.5sw@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5clteu$j1e@news.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:14:26 GMT In article <5clteu$j1e@news.tuwien.ac.at> Robert F Tobler <rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at> writes: > robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) wrote: > > Hi Seamus, > > one reason could be bad permissions on your root directory. Have a look at > > your computer's root directory via the Inspector. Everyone should be > > allowed to do all (read write execute). > > This is WRONG (I am shouting here only to warn people that this is not good > for system security!). This is only the default installation of Next. It is > not necessary for NextStep to work that the root directory is writeable by > anyone but root. > > Have a look at: > > /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin/14_Security.rtfd > chapter 'Protecting Directories' > > to find out about the correct permissions for the root directory! > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 > Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at > Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/ Hi Robert, You are of course absolutely right. The only reason for me to mention this here was that this sometimes solves the problem. Once everything is OK again, you should of course start looking at security. Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: Danko Ferdebar <FS@zg.tel.hr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstation 25MHz & OpenStep4.1 hangs Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 08:32:19 +0100 Organization: FS d.o.o. Distribution: world Message-ID: <32F2F17B.53EC@zg.tel.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have old first generation NeXTstation (ABB0019758, Model N1100, Part 1715). After reinstalling or upgrading to OpenStep 4.1 system frequently (not always) hangs in the login prompt. Than I activate verbose mode for booting process. If it hangs during boot I can see message "spurious DMA interrupt :channel 0x2000110" repeated until systems hangs. Even command-~ doesn't help. I can only unplug the power to turn it off. If this message apears alone during boot process, than system sucessfully start up. I have tried to change hard drive and SIMMs, but system hangs again. (Quantum FireBall 1.2GB, DEC DSP 3160 1.6GB). As I know message "spurious DMA interrupt..." on Motorola 68040 CPU system means that DMA interrupt happened but nobody is responsible for that interrupt. In the NeXTanswers I have found something similar but on different hardware (Intel and SCSI adapters). Is it simply bug in the OpenStep for MachOS 4.1? Later I figure out that I can usually avoid this problem if boot first to single user mode (bsd -s) and leave NeXT for 5-10 minutes and then reboot to multi user mode. Does any one have similar problems or maybe solution for this problem? (I have test hardware again with NS3.0 and everything works fine.) Thanks! Danko Ferdebar FS@zg.tel.hr
From: francis@az.stratus.com (Francis Hartojo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 1997 23:58:59 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5cu103$sk0@transfer.stratus.com> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> By Jove, I think he's right! (c: I never noticed this before but I think the cursor *does* cover more territory the faster I move the mouse. BTW, this is on a white box. Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> wrote: > >Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The faster you >move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* the arrow >moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to the mouse >travel. You can see this by placing your mouse at the left edge of the pad and the >arrow at the left edge of the screen. SLOWLY move the mouse to the right edge of >the pad. The pointer will only make it about halfway across the screen before you >run out of pad (17" screen). Now repeat the test, but move the mouse QUICKLY across >the pad. The pointer reaches the right edge of the screen before the mouse has even >traveled half the pad width. > >Knowing this you can move the pointer around the screen without picking up the mouse >much. If you need to cover alot of territory with the pointer, move the mouse >quickly. As you near what you are going to click on, slow down (as is natural). -- +------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ | Francis Hartojo | Ph.: 602-852-3195 [Insert cute | | Stratus Computer, Inc. | 800-294-1344 x3195 disclaimer here] | | francis@az.stratus.com | Fax: 602-852-3099 |
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 97 20:49:19 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF180B52-2E23F@207.147.52.78> References: <5cu103$sk0@transfer.stratus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 31, 1997 6:58 PM, Francis Hartojo <mailto:francis@az.stratus.com> wrote: > By Jove, I think he's right! (c: I never noticed this before but I > think the cursor *does* cover more territory the faster I move the > mouse. BTW, this is on a white box. > > Ryan Scott <scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu> wrote: > > > >Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The > faster you > >move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* > the arrow > >moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to > the mouse > >travel. >It takes some practice, but I have come to like it better than the standard >Windoze mouse... Is this supposed to be a "Two Stooges" routine or are you guys serious? :-) I guess I have no experience with UNIX machines other than the NeXT, but I do have experience with the Mac and Windows. The Mac has had this "velocity tracking" (that's what it's called) feature (it is a feature and not a bug) ever since I have been using it, though it was less useful on 9" monitors. Obvioulsy it is much more useful the larger the monitor that you have connected to the box. So far as I know, the NeXT has also had this feature from the inception. I can't testify as to what sort of tracking the Lisa had or the Alto had. I guess for this reason I take umbrage at the remark about the "standard" Windoze mouse. IBM didn't invent the Personal Computer and Microsoft didn't invent the Graphical User Interface. The tracking on Windows has always seemed glitchy to me. The cursor seems to bounce around the screen erratically and of course I notice the pointer blinking in and out when the machine is doing processor intensive tasks. On a slight aside, I used to think that Win '95 was an attempt to copy the Mac GUI. Not at all. It was a much more blatant attempt to copy the NeXT GUI. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 1 Feb 1997 07:58:25 GMT Organization: Phoenix .d.i.g.i.t.a.l. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> In article <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com>, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: |> In article <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com>, |> Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293 <powers@ml.com> wrote: |> >jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) writes: |> > |> > > Yah, but Intel released some versions of the '486 without FP capabilities. |> > > |> > > Best guess: during test the FP Coprocessors didn't work correctly, so |> > > they disabled 'em, packaged 'em any way and sold 'em for low end (cheap) |> > > systems. Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. |> I believe that for a while, due to the high cost of fab, that HP was |> actually *repairing* chips. This would argue that it is not only |> possible to depackage and repackage, but possible to do it in a |> commercially feasible way. . . The cache of the MIPS R5000 contains additional semiconductors that can replace other, faulty ones. The cache is a big part of the die size and the process increases the yield rate without reducing the functionality - which is what you want for a middle class CPU like the R5k. Ralf -- A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage of all the features - manpage of amd(8).
From: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 31 Jan 1997 16:07:44 GMT Organization: Universite Paris-Sud, France. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> John Stevens (jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com) wrote: : In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, : Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: : : The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the : color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called : the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). Wasn't that the Sinclair QL ? Jean ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean BENOIT e-mail : benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr Institut d'Astrophysique Spatiale tel : (+33) 01 69 85 87 03 Batiment 121, Universite Paris XI fax : (+33) 01 69 85 87 01 91405 ORSAY Cedex FRANCE www : http://www.medoc-ias.u-psud.fr/ -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's NeXT for Apple? Message-ID: <8D123B8.09B8000121.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 15:52:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 What's NeXT for Apple? 01/27/97 Microprocessor Report With the disclosure of Apple's new operating-system strategy, the company has finally begun filling the strategic vacuum created when Copland was abandoned last year. Apple's plan deserves credit for being bold and innovative, but it also means Mac applications will never have the full benefit of a protected, multitasking operating system unless they are rewritten (though Apple is working on tools to ease this transition). The new OS, code-named Rhapsody, is not an enhanced Macintosh but rather a new platform that offers Macintosh compatibility. The success of the OS plan is also a critical issue for PowerPC: with Windows NT on PowerPC all but abandoned, the volume desktop future for PowerPC lies entirely with Apple's software. Unfortunately, the new OS strategy is unlikely to lead to significant market share growth for Apple. Furthermore, applications written for Rhapsody will be easily ported to other operating systems and processor architectures, reducing the proprietary lock PowerPC has had on Macintosh applications. What does this mean for Mac users? For the next year and a half--or longer, if, as seems likely, the software schedule slips--Mac OS will continue to lack key modern OS features. Starting in mid-1998, Mac users will have the choice of staying with the old OS or moving to Rhapsody. Rhapsody is sure to have far greater memory requirements than Mac OS; NextStep currently requires 32M, and it would not be surprising if Rhapsody requires significantly more to run well. This means the vast majority of the installed base of Macintosh systems will require memory upgrades to handle the new OS. Education and home users, long the core of Apple's market, may find the increased memory requirements to be onerous, if not prohibitive. Rhapsody will also require new drivers for peripherals, such as scanners and backup devices. Users with devices from companies that have disappeared, or that have dropped Mac support, may find they can't use these devices under the new operating system. Most Mac OS applications will run within the so-called compatibility box, but all the limitations of the old OS remain. For example, any application can crash the entire compatibility box. The only improvement from the current situation is that just the compatibility box, rather than the entire system, would need to be restarted. Apple claims applications will run at least as fast in the compatibility box as under the native Mac OS, due to the faster underlying I/O structure and kernel. To get the benefits of Rhapsody, applications must be written to the OpenStep APIs. OpenStep offers a very nice development environment, including a powerful set of Web development tools, but it is far outside the mainstream and has had little success outside of large corporate in-house developers. Apple hopes its evangelism and higher volumes will make OpenStep a far bigger success, but this remains to be seen. Apple is fragmenting its already modest market share into two APIs; developers targeting Rhapsody will have, at least initially, only a fraction of the already small Macintosh market share available to them. The user scenario for switching to Rhapsody will be similar, in many ways, to the switch to Power Macs. At first, users will run most applications in the compatibility box and gain little benefit from the new platform. In time, more software (especially high-end applications, such as publishing and multimedia development tools) will become available in native Rhapsody versions. The big question is how long this transition will take--and indeed, whether the majority of applications will ever be ported to Rhapsody. Apple has committed to supporting Next's existing products, which provide the OpenStep APIs on top of Windows NT and various flavors of Unix. If Apple continues to support OpenStep as a cross-platform API, it could increase developer appeal by enabling developers to support Windows NT and Rhapsody with the same effort. However, this would leave Rhapsody's applications undifferentiated. Apple could add features to Rhapsody without offering them in the NT version of OpenStep, which would provide differentiation for Apple but weaken the developer proposition. Mac developers and users facing the tumultuous, multiyear transition to Rhapsody are likely to look more intensely than ever at shifting their efforts to Windows. Even if many applications move to the OpenStep APIs, users probably will have the option of running most of those applications under NT. Users of OpenStep applications will have a choice between an x86 system running NT, with the additional bonus of Windows applications, or a PowerPC system running Rhapsody, with the additional bonus of Mac applications. Apple is, in essence, allowing Mac OS to slowly fade away while building its future on the Next platform. Although this strategy may enable Apple to build a sustainable niche, it pushes today's Macintosh even further into the fringe. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple OS Strategy Message-ID: <8D123B8.09B8000120.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 15:52:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Offers New OS Strategy 01/27/97 Microprocessor Report Apple has, at long last, laid out its new operating-system strategy and taken the first step toward implementing that strategy by acquiring Next Software. Apple's plan leads to a modern, object-oriented operating system replete with all the right buzzwords. Unfortunately, the benefits of the new OS will accrue only to applications written for a new application programming interface (API) based on Next's OpenStep API. Macintosh applications will be supported only within a compatibility box that carries with it all of the disadvantages of the current Mac OS. The new operating system, code-named Rhapsody, will include Next's OpenStep software, extended with a few key Mac APIs, such as QuickTime and OpenDoc, and a version of Mac OS for compatibility with existing applications. An early developer release is promised for the middle of this year, with a limited end-user release by the end of the year. A version with Mac application compatibility and an enhanced Mac-style user interface is promised for mid-1998. This version is expected to be the first of interest to Mac users; the late-'97 version will be used mainly by developers and current users of Next's software. Next's original product was a full operating system, called NextStep, based on the Mach kernel (used in a version of Unix developed at Carnegie-Mellon). More recently, Next shifted its efforts to OpenStep, a "middleware" product that implements Next's development environment and APIs on top of existing operating systems (including Windows NT and various versions of Unix). Although it has been assumed in many press reports that Rhapsody will use the Mach kernel, Apple says this decision has not been made; the Copland kernel and other options are also being considered. With the now-abandoned Copland operating system, Apple had hoped to provide a high degree of compatibility with existing Mac applications while replacing the kernel to provide memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking. Because Mac Toolbox routines are not re-entrant, Copland required a nearly complete rewrite of the operating system. Unfortunately, most Mac applications use undocumented features in the system software, such as directly accessing internal data structures. This misuse has made maintaining compatibility extremely difficult. The new strategy forces existing Mac OS applications to run within a "compatibility box," which is just a copy of Mac OS running as a task under the new operating system. This version of Mac OS will be modified to work through the new kernel instead of communicating directly with the hardware. Apple says application compatibility will be better than it would have been with Copland, and at least 85% of existing applications should run. A key difference from the Copland strategy, however, is that standard Macintosh applications cannot take advantage of the new pre-emptive multitasking and interapplication memory protection. Apple promises that twice-yearly releases of the existing Mac OS will continue through at least the end of the decade. The Harmony release (Mac OS 7.6), just now shipping, has modest stability and performance enhancements. Due in mid-'97 is the Tempo release, which will include a new multithreaded Finder--finally written in native PowerPC code--that will bring to System 7 some of the user-interface enhancements originally created for the ill-fated Copland. For most Mac users, Tempo and its follow-ons--rather than Rhapsody-- will be the most significant developments for at least the next two years. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 dy environment and may only sometimes make it through the walls of the box. What it boils down to is a NeXT-designed operating system running on Apple's PowerPC hardware, with a bone thrown to the old Mac crowd. From a technical point of view, this is workable and potentially great. Put an innovative, robust OS, with proven ability to develop leading-edge applications, and compatibility with a lot of existing software on a fast chip like the PowerPC and you've got something to brag about. From a business and marketing point of view, the picture isn't bright for Apple, but NeXT may be as good as it gets. OpenStep already runs on Intel and Sun chips, and supports things like Microsoft's OLE and the non-Microsoft CORBA standard. As the owner of NeXT, Apple becomes a player in the Intel market. It won't be a big player, but since the Intel market is 20 times the size of the PowerPC market, Apple doesn't need to own it to be healthy. This still won't ensure Apple's future. That, ironically, is probably in Microsoft's hands. Although it could bury Apple next month, Microsoft needs to keep Apple alive to fend off U.S. anti-trust regulators. It may be charity, but it is survival. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:59:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes when initializing a 230Mb disk. Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 31 Jan 1997 22:40:54 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Cc: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu In <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Ryan Scott wrote: > notmy@address.org (Collin) wrote: > >Hello Again, > > One thing I find slightly annoying about my NeXT is that even on the > >fastest tracking setting I don't feel like the mouse tracks across the > >screen fast enough for my liking. It seems that the top tracking speed on > > Actually I've found that there is a "trick" to using the NeXT mouse. The faster you > move the mouse from one spot on the mouse pad to another, the *farther* the arrow > moves on the screen. ie, the arrow travel has a nonlinear relationship to the mouse The secrets of the mouse are buried in the NeXT Workspace Manager defaults database. I've experimented with the settings, and for NeXT 25 MHz systems found the following about optimal: Type in a terminal shell: localhost> dwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling "7 0 1 1 3 2 9 3 25 4 28 5 30 6 32" There is an app on the Web ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/mouseAccel.tar.gz that changes the mouse without having to log out and in. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: another cool thing about Colorizer.bundle for Mail.app Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 00:28:56 +0100 Organization: Warty Wolfs Message-ID: <9701312329.AA01615@basil.icce.rug.nl> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) In article <199701291700.MAA10521@nerc.com>, you wrote: > Responding To: Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> > Original Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:01:27 +0100 > > > (Except that EnhanceMail's online help is nowhere to be found in > > Mail's help panel anymore, but that is probably EMs own fault...) > > Colorizer's help now appears in the Help panel (at least in 3.3) > where EM used to be. > > Eric's bundle must have twiddled with the help-hack for EM. > Renaming the "ColorHelp" entry in Colorizer doesn't solve the > problem either. > > Oh well... I didn't particularly _need_ EM's online help, but I > didn't need it broken either :-( Found the bug in EM, and fixed it... just another thing to look forward to in the next release. <eg> (Before y'all start screaming "When! When! I want it NOW!", um, well, all in due time... Meanwhile, for you DIY types out there, here's the patched EnhanceMail/HelpPanel.m: begin 644 HelpPanel.m.gz M'XL(`$][\C("`ZU4WW/:.!!^]U^QS742&X*-T^9Z<8:;4$(F#PED0A[2X9@; M(2]84R-Y)!G*=/J_=V5L(+U[K(VQO+OZ]L>WJZ@%G59G0(_7^KV71S?<B1P3 M:*Y[S(LG)C$/5Z1['DP.*GA_CRQ%G4!4&AWEBK,\RL4\XFL3#67&),=')O+H M".-\#7%8W1!?75U&<1QU+R'^*_GP,?D0`\=TQ20,OQ7PGMS=HN%:%%8H26Y) MT"]MIG03PH#I'(9N!ZD&&IG%M-:]E`AC;H$P+RZ2^$\'[AR2X:-*Q4(TEI-2 MPDBM`2B*;G)!O\O*$/P#>E#'=<-9(2S+A;%AH06E9Y4,,2T)]8')9<F6=>4& M)'EB_.M>`*.H3[*)9;8T3?R4)FJQ0DF8X-\J"L3"+:%K,2\M!A4=_B"`@2JV M6BPS6X5V#J0%93/4&V$0;"8,+(@UH#<A+I`27VC$#=,8.I#?W261Y_TA5H72 M%DZ.B`ZSDX/\0#I)/<]0YH*#2&'%MG/LI^FD+(H<7?;^Z'5O#:VL60;>=X^J M5._\/!X_4((/BEHNA1Z,QM=.RS.FH6`VFS[V7Y_Z+_</PU$[GIVW>*5VCUB` M_VZ_\_04]A[<1QW_YU*F5,'34Z\F9_I6L43[1%X2YPH62C^C4:7FF#0%<!F< M@%J\;`M,NK/`X7ROP<C>YSVW]9KBXNUV<%UK-AGQYOO\[TH;N(#\%G_7.XO. M`FJ[3J<Q;/'>V3_=L^9S>LB!'9?REW"$W`<]:[8>U?#+<%))?[@_C;;4\E"< M:^\'\79#?.Z@F1M#.(*OK+PVM9X4)G.@0BX3G]JWI`9<,9[]FU4'!+2"W6)' MJ./C37%[O6[PEH?>=/1:%WY>O>Z4'N3,F&1J,%\`=^O9+J6=I%`&^XW:E#0& MQS9U;DY9I=4&B9M=-+7J?[IR6L$XRUE0[8I:,'UYO@>(.W<X[UQ]FL&8QE)( M&M\VF5&0MT+3]"F]34"M46N1(J34])(FF^4;MC6P4?JK5U&/$IBLYAC<^-2I M0KZC9X[4-@A'\^6H-B"LJ4BJ9F,?+<RW=!`@2";6"-/I\4BY#'YIDS`,2504 M6A%-H8/RAX_N_+!*@5DQFF#R7OE2&PE+I=*D$P7@1O\&90I1]-]6^`EX]B_. $F08````` ` end Alternatively you can use Carl Lindbergs workaround for now. [see article <9701310248.AA08582@mailserv.metro.mci.com>]) -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 01:32:28 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf Baechle) wrote: > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > Huh? > Ralf > > -- > A weird imagination is most useful to gain full advantage > of all the features - manpage of amd(8). -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
From: dunham@cs.tulane.edu (Andrea Dunham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is TeXutils.tar.Z? Date: 1 Feb 1997 07:43:10 GMT Organization: Elec Engr & Comp Sci Dept, Tulane Univ, New Orleans, LA Message-ID: <5cus6e$lhc@spnode02.tcs.tulane.edu> Hi All, Do you know where I can find TeXutils.tar.Z? I'm looking for detex and MakeIndex, both are bundled in TeXutils.tar.Z. Your help is much appreciated, * AndREa * (dunham@eecs.tulane.edu)
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 31 Jan 97 19:45:40 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan31194540@howard.one.net> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> In-reply-to: Lyle Seaman's message of Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:59:48 -0500 In article <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com>, Lyle Seaman <lws@transarc.com> writes: Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined interface. Or am I missing something? I assume you mean zero out the indirect (or direct for small swapfiles :-) block number references? I'm not certain I like the consequences of that for swapfile locality. If you leave the blocks in place, it's pretty likely that the adjacent blocks on the disk are also the adjacent blocks in the swapfile. If you punch holes in the file, and then later have to fill in the hole, you may end up having to seek all over the disk to the new block. If you make it "smart", then you might as well have addressed the problem correctly in the first place. :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: Richard J Appleyard <appleyar@ohsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: LISTSERV SW? Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 11:38:42 -0800 Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970201113641.4816E-100000@cornell.ohsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone have a LISTSERV installed on their NeXT? I have the old black HW (NeXTStation). Richard. --- Dr Richard J Appleyard, Medical Informatics Fellow AMIA Internet WG Newsletter Editor, Maintainer WWW VL Medicine Index Biomedical Info. Comm. Ctr (BICC), Oregon Health Sciences Univ. appleyar@ohsu.edu, Voice (503) 494-1230, Fax (503) 494-4551 "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 1 Feb 1997 12:33:05 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.854828225@shellx> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I wrote the following program to allow me to play with mouse scale settings somewhat interactively. The interface is not ideal, but it was fine for what I needed. I note one thing: The way the driver works is it takes a mouse movement value and it does a lookup to find a multiplier. If you start with a default multiplier of 1, it causes the mouse to do a nasty jump when you pass the next threshold and move to a multiplier of 2. The mouse really takes off, and this makes doing artwork difficult. (If you're drawing a diagonal line and the y acceleration crosses back and forth across the 2x multiplier and the x value doesn't, the line will be really irregular.) To counteract this, I set the mouse up to start with a multiplier of 2; then the jump to a multiplier of 3 is much smoother. I hope this makes some sense... Cut this file into "ms.m", compile it to "ms" and if you run it without command line arguments it will kind of tell you what to do. cheers, -sam ----------------- cut here for ms.m ----------------------- // ms - get or set mouse scaling factors and thresholds // sam streeper Tue Sep 17 16:24:53 GMT 1996 // This works on NS 3.3; it probably works on all 3.0 // versions but hasn't been tested by me. #import <drivers/event_status_driver.h> #import <stdio.h> #include <stdlib.h> NXMouseScaling ms; NXEventHandle evs; main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int i; if((evs = NXOpenEventStatus()) == 0) { printf("NXOpenEventStatus failed.\n"); exit(10); } if (argc <= 1) { printf("Current mouse scaling is:\n"); NXGetMouseScaling(evs, &ms); for (i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels;i++) { printf("%d %d ", ms.scaleThresholds[i], ms.scaleFactors[i]); } printf("\n"); goto done; } if (argc == 2) // ie ms -help { printf("ms: set or get mouse scaling information.\n"); printf("\n"); printf("With no arguments, lists the current mouse scaling factors.\n"); printf("The arguments are threshold-scaling pairs, so (for example)\n"); printf("the list (1 2 4 3 5 4 6 8 7 10) indicates that\n"); printf("a mouse movement of 5 units is multiplied by 4 to yield\n"); printf("a cursor movement of 20 pixels.\n\n"); printf("To save the mouse scaling, use\n"); printf("\tdwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling \"<numberOfPairs> <scalingList>\"\n\n"); printf("For example:\n"); printf("\tdwrite NeXT1 MouseScaling \"5 1 2 4 3 5 4 6 8 7 10\"\n\n"); goto done; } // make sure we have matching pairs of values if ((argc % 2) == 0) { printf("Argument error; list only ascending scaling pairs\n"); goto done; } // make sure that both the scaling points and mult factors ascend only for (i=3; i<argc; i++) { if (atoi(argv[i-2]) >= atoi(argv[i])) { printf("Argument error; list only ascending scaling pairs\n"); goto done; } } // ok, everything checks out, set up the structure and set the scaling ms.numScaleLevels = argc/2; for(i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels; i++) { ms.scaleThresholds[i] = atoi(argv[2*i+1]); ms.scaleFactors[i] = atoi(argv[2*i+2]); } // set the scaling #ifdef VANNA printf("would set:\n"); for (i=0; i<ms.numScaleLevels;i++) { printf("%d %d ", ms.scaleThresholds[i], ms.scaleFactors[i]); } printf("\n"); #endif NXSetMouseScaling(evs, &ms); done: NXCloseEventStatus(evs); } ----------------- cut here -----------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:41:08 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5csatt$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 31-Jan-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Lee Altenberg@acpub.duke > Maybe a techie could fill me in on what is wrong with this idea, but, why > couldn't you create a paging VM system that had a tree-structure -- e.g. a > /private/vm/swapdir directory, and a linear swapfile for each process? > Since processes are not unlikely to page out in a stack, the per-process > swapfiles would be really able to shrink down when pages were freed. And > when the process is killed, its swapfile is deleted. The process of opening and closing files for every process is rather expensive, and it would lead to a lot of fragmentation on the filesystem (unless you dedicated a filesystem for the swap space). It's a reasonable idea, but the costs associated with it are substantial. The best solution would be to fix the remaining problems that cause the swapspace to grow, and that is hard to do. NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:57:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5cv7i0$3mu@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes > when initializing a 230Mb disk. > > Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, > would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can > make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info > (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > Here is one that someone handed to me: FUJITSU M2512A 1314|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#80:nt#2:ns#1394:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#2:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:aa:ta=4.3BSD: Now, you'll notice all those attempts at the name. I never could get NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel to automatically recognize the disk. Also, I had hideous problems with SCSI ioctrl errors when I tried using a non-default disktab entry. They would appear erratically and caused `media errors' to appear on my hard disks. I thought they were due to the disktab entry, but discovered finally that it was because I needed to disable synchronous negotiation to the MO on my Adaptec 2940 card. I haven't had the problem recur since then. So in summary, this disktab might work just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: z_bensonsm@TITAN.SFASU.EDU Subject: Re: Netscape Message-ID: <Pine.PMDF.3.91.970201145914.195355A-100000@TITAN.SFASU.EDU> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 15:01:52 CST References: <Pine.SGI.3.94.970127114801.12887A-100000@attila.stevens-tech.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SGI.3.94.970127114801.12887A-100000@attila.stevens-tech.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yes there is a web browser for NeXT. It is called OmniWeb. You can ftp it form ftp.omnigroup.com. There are a few versions that are not for NeXT. Like for Sun, HP and Intel. When you download it download the ver. with the capital N in the name. That is the one for NeXT Later, Steven. On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Brian Ward wrote: > Is there any version of netscape that will work with NeXTSTEP? Is there > any good webbrowsers? > > > >
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 16:12:03 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <smwv6XO00iWp07Gnc0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> In-Reply-To: <32F127E4.5CEE@transarc.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 30-Jan-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Lyle Seaman@transarc.com > Amidst all this talk about compressing swap files, the obvious (?) > solution is missed. Why not just identify the unused pages in the swap > file and punch holes in it? Ordinarily it might require sneaking in > behind UFS, but if you own the OS, you can create a well-defined > interface. Or am I missing something? Well, you could do so using sparse files, which already exist in the UFS. However, the thing you're missing is that what you suggest won't help very much, since the system already will reuse unused pages in the swapfile. The problem comes from applications which use memory in such a way that the system still thinks it's in use when it's actually not-- ie, a memory or core leak. That's what needs to be fixed. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 1 Feb 1997 13:29:07 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.854832370@shellx> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <sams.854828225@shellx> Woops, I was wrong about the usage of my own utility here. To clarify proper usage: ms help -> prints (poor?) help ms 1 2 4 3 -> sets a couple of mouse scaling values ms -> prints the current values cheers, -sam
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From: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 13:46:19 -0800 Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Message-ID: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | | * * | Looking for some great CD's, | * videos, books, computer software and more * | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | * Check us out! * | | * * | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
From: "Mark Jenkins" <markj@inwave.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New to all this Date: 1 Feb 97 16:31:09 -0600 Message-ID: <AF192057-2B54DC@206.101.238.38> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm trying to get some apps to execute that I downloaded. Specifically, any file that I have downloaded .pkg.tar.gz installs but I get an Icon of a computer monitor with a big question mark in it. Being brand new to NeXT & Unix, how do I remedy this situation? TIA Mark Jenkins markj@inwave.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199701311953.UAA00402@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 97 20:53:47 +0100 Subject: Info monitor... Ciao... I need a program to calibrate the monitor... (like color convergence etc) Is there a program like that for NS ? Where I can get it ? Else what can I use (for dos) ? Thank you ! --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: nxh665@leonard.anu.edu.au (Nathan Hand) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Followup-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 31 Jan 1997 17:57:33 GMT Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5ctbqd$pdg@clarion.carno.net.au> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32CDD2A9.7CB@rogerswave.ca> <32CF2646.473F@serv.net> <32D17A1F.65D8@ipoline.com> <01bbfc63$8827eb60$844904cb@crw033.crc.cra.com.au> <5av1nl$6hr@news.proaxis.com> <32d90cbd.6753174@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001201971750140001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e01423.3489833@news.sover.net> <rbarris-ya023280001701971957130001@news.quicksilver.com> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> Christopher C. Wood (christw@lexis-nexis.com) wrote: : Compilers hide that from users -- if you're writing code in a compiled : language, you can't tell, and don't care, if you're on a 68000 : processor or a RISC processor. This helped Sun transition from 68K to : SPARC. Whaddyamean helped? The whole point of C being invented was to help make UNIX easy to port. It's a damn design feature! : So you agree that the original IBM PC was an 8-bit machine? And some : 80386-based machines were 16-bit? Who cares? 386's cost $20 including the monitor, 20MB hard disk and keyboard, and that isn't worth buying. They're *history*. -- The network is the computer.
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT to dominate Apple? Date: 1 Feb 1997 22:27:00 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5d0fvk$2ee@news.us.net> References: <8D123B8.09B800011F.uuout@moondog.com> I'm not clear if Mr. Gordon wrote this or he copied it out of the Edmonton Journal. Regardless, the only real "problem" I had with this essay is the following: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) wrote: > NeXT could dominate after Apple-NeXT merger > 01/30/97 > The Edmonton Journal >Today's Mac software will be supported through a "Mac OS compatibility >environment" says Apple. Reading between the lines, this sounds an awful lot >like the dreaded e-word, emulation. In emulation, a computer creates a layer >around an otherwise incompatible program. It's clever technology (it's how >you run Windows on a Mac, and even some older Mac software on PowerPCs) but >it's slow. > >Apple insists that this isn't emulation, that a Mac "box" will be built into >Rhapsody. This is better, but odds are high that the "box" will confine Mac >software to its existing capabilities. I've read about the blue and yellow environments, and I feel that the sudden jump to call the MacOS 7.x compatibility box "emulation" is premature. First, would you call running Windows 3.x apps under Windows NT emulation? Or running DOS applications under Windows NT emulation? In certain respects, yes. Certainly, the kernel running under Windows NT is not the same as DOS nor identical to the Windows 3.x kernel. The calls that the older applications make to the system are no longer handled by the same underpinnings and they must be bound (but not necessarily translated) to calls into the new underpinnings. But emulation? Not quite. First, the CPU won't have to be emulated which is one of the primary bottlenecks (for MacOS PPC apps, that is). Second, since Apple *owns* the MacOS source code, they can rework most of the toolbox code so that calls from legacy applications can be directly bound into calls in the "native" system. No need to translate or parse the existing code. Therefore, using something like the Interceptor API, Apple can have legacy applications draw directly to the screen and sit directly on the kernel. Sure, there will be additional overhead. However, the MacOS as it stands now isn't totally PPC code anyways, and if they can get the compatibility box to be completely PPC, then the performance of Rhapsody running legacy Mac apps might be a wash with the current MacOS. However, they probably don't need to go that far... just have it perform fast enough and well enough until Rhapsody native apps arrive. It certainly isn't like running MAE under a completely different CPU as an application. On another note, they shouldn't spend *too* much resources on getting complete and fast compatibility... they need to move forward with OPENSTEP. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: news@cmc.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 03:10:48 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Message-ID: <cancel.32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Sender: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Spam cancelled by news@cmc.net
From: Tom Reminga <webmaster@q-net.pair.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 22:24:17 -0600 Organization: Q-Net Internet Services Message-ID: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on the computer 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for a Motorola processer 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, any other useful software. 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a few good books on NeXT. Thanks Tom Reminga E-Mail me at: mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com Q-Net Internet Services http://www.q-net.pair.com
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nn-6.5.1 Date: 2 Feb 1997 07:06:08 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5d1ed0$d3d@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is anyone using nn-6.5.1 with NOV over NNTP? I compile the package without a single warning, etc, but the resulting binary can not successfully make a connection to the news server. Running the application results in: Connecting to NNTP server news.cso.uiuc.edu ... Lost connection to NNTP server news.cso.uiuc.edu: Error 0 I've gone through all the docs several times and have still been unsuccessful in getting this to work. Any help would be appreciated, -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702011850.NAA12867@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: e84b3a2f00eee4181152577eeca066da - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 13:49:56 -0500 Subject: Re: sendmail config? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: e84b3a2f00eee4181152577eeca066da - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Original Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:05:22 GMT > I just installed OS 4.1 for intel and now when i use nextmail to > send mail, the mail bounces with a host unknown error. now, dns > stuff is working fine so this seems really bizarre. what kind of > config stuff does sendmail need? If you go to my NeXT page http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next and goto "NeXTStep related web sites" you'll find sendmail installation and configuration instructions. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702011837.NAA12734@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a1b50c271d9177cfae1202390d07f364 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 1 Feb 97 13:37:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a1b50c271d9177cfae1202390d07f364 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: clp5@cornell.edu (Collin) Original Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:24:15 -0500 > Anyway, the question is...has anyone written some little patch > that speeds up the mouse tracking speed or is there some other > trick? Here's a program that will allow you to set things much better: ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz ftp://ftp.eunet.ch/pub/next/Tools/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.README ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: qpdmvn@ohaqerf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale. Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:19:16 GMT Organization: The.Copy.Cat. Message-ID: <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> We have the following CD-R media for sale. Brand: Pioneer Type: Printable Media (Surface is blank for printing or labels) Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.99 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Maxell Type: Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: TDK Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Hewlett Packard Type Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 7.15 Minimum Order: 10 Lifetime Warranty The Copy Cat Shop has all your CD duplication, replication, recorders, software, and media needs. If you have any questions or comments feel free to call. Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: 2 Feb 1997 13:24:10 GMT Control: cancel <5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5d248k$jct@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Sender: qpdmvn@ohaqerf.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R.Media.for.Sale.
From: helbig@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wanted: VT240 Terminal Emulator Software Date: 2 Feb 1997 18:06:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5d2l3d$crf@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for terminal software that emulates a VT240 terminal. If anybody knows of any, please email me. I've done a lot of looking but haven't found anything. helbig@ix.netcom.com
From: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:13:12 -0600 Organization: TI Message-ID: <BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> References: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> In article <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com>, "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> wrote: > -- > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | | > * * > | Looking for some great CD's, | > * videos, books, computer software and more * > | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | > * Check us out! * > | | > * * > | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* you call these a WHOLE SALE price?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Date: 2 Feb 1997 21:11:02 GMT Control: cancel <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Message-ID: <cancel.32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> Sender: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970202.84. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970202.84.html for complete report. Original Subject: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES!
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Vote For Apple/NeXT Message-ID: <8D1429B.09B800012D.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 11:07:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 From the 2/1 MACWAY DIGEST: ### Computer Reseller News, a computer dealer weekly magazine that is pretty Mac- hostile (and usually Mac-wrong), conducts a weekly reader poll. This week's poll is "Do resellers feel Apple will increase its market share after the company offered its Rhapsody operating system?" vote YES by calling 1-800-345-CRNY (YEA) vote no by calling 1-800-345-crnn (boo) Its a free call-in and I think Evangelistas ought to weigh in on this one. Call soon, as the poll closes at the end of the month. ________________ Do you believe in Macintosh? Please check out: <http://www.evangelist.macaddict.com/> Join the EvangeList mailing list by sending an email to: <evangelist@macway.com>. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: cmsg cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Control: cancel <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 13:15:39 -0800 Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Message-ID: <32F503FB.6E07@tidepool.com> References: <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.
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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970202.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970123.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970116.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 02 Feb 1997 15:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trimedia v. MMX Message-ID: <8D14301.09B800012E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 12:49:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE TO LAUNCH TRIMEDIA CHIP TO HEAD OFF INTEL'S MMX CHALLENGE Chip producers and computer makers are vying with each other to develop the most powerful multimedia processor on the market, and the pace is growing faster and more furious. When market leader Intel Corp. of Santa Clara, Cal., launched the MMX multimedia extension chip, Apple Computer of Cupertino, Cal., already up against it, faced another serious challenge. It was a bid by Intel and Microsoft for major player status in a multimedia market dominated by Apple. Apple responded to the challenge by heralding an even more powerful multimedia chip, the TriMedia. The TriMedia, developed by Dutch electronics group Philips, is said to mark a milestone in Apple's strategy of consolidating its Power Macintosh product line's position in the graphics market. It is a newly-developed 32-bit processor that will ease the burden of data- intensive computation on the Power Mac's main processor, the Power PC chip and considerably accelerate the speed at which the Power PC performs complex operations in programs such as Photoshop. "TriMedia is of great significance for the wider user market," says Geoff Ballew of US market research company Dataquest. "It will enable all other microprocessor architectures to achieve improvements in performance for multimedia applications." Trimedia, Ballew says, has enabled Apple to come up with an adequate response to the MMX chip. Intel and Microsoft are hopeful that the new MMX technology will bridge the Pentium PC's performance gap in the graphics sector and, at the same time, prove a powerful sales argument. The MMX, or multimedia extension, enables the computer to use a single instruction for more than one set of data simultaneously instead of working through them consecutively. This technique is known as SIMD, or single instruction multiple data. This performance boost would make Windows PCs interesting for multimedia authors and professional graphics users who have so far preferred to rely on an Apple Macintosh. The Pentium processor complete with MMX is reported to speed up conventional programs by a mere ten per cent or so, but some multimedia applications can be run up to 60 per cent faster, and ideally the acceleration is between 400 and 500 per cent. The main product categories that are set to benefit from the new technology are games, educational software and entertainment. But the MMX processor does not fire up fully until it is used together with specially developed MMX software. A new MMX version of the benchmark colour graphics and prepress program Photoshop was presented to coincide with the launch of the new Intel chip. Unlike the MMX chip, the TriMedia functions as a co-processor, easing the burden of complex computations on the CPU. As Linley Gwennap, editor of the Sebastopol, Cal., "Microprocessor Report," told "MacWeek" magazine, this is a significant advantage over MMX technology: "The Intel processor with MMX offers solid performance in multimedia applications, but TriMedia is 100-per-cent optimised for this sector." The TM-1, the first TriMedia chip, will reportedly handle about four billion operations per second, which is several times the number the MMX can handle. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Reorg, Jobs, Kernel fight Message-ID: <8D14301.09B800012F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 12:49:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Sweeping Layoffs Expected at Apple Major reorganization will streamline divisions, create spot on executive council for Steven Jobs, sources say. 02/01/97 Los Angeles Times Just weeks after reporting one of its biggest losses in company history, Apple Computer Inc. on Monday is expected to announce a sweeping reorganization that will include laying off up to a quarter of its staff and creating a position on the decision-making executive council for Apple's legendary co-founder, Steven Jobs. Jobs rejoined Apple as an informal technology advisor to Chairman and Chief Executive Gilbert Amelio in late December as part of the computer maker's deal to acquire Next Software Inc. Software from Next, which was founded by Jobs after he was ousted from Apple, will form the basis of a radically new version of Apple's Macintosh operating system. Up to 3,000 employees out of 13,000 will be laid off, and a hiring freeze will be imposed in an effort to bring the company's costs in line with dramatically diminishing sales. As part of Amelio's restructuring, sources said late Friday, Apple's half a dozen business units will be streamlined into three product divisions focusing on key market segments: desktop publishing, Internet content creation and education, where Apple continues to have a strong constituency. Under the old structure, the business units operated almost as separate companies, each with their own marketing and engineering organization. Amelio will create an umbrella marketing and research and development organization to serve its three divisions. Final details of the reorganization were being worked out Friday. An announcement is scheduled for Monday, two days before Apple's shareholder meeting at company headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. The restructuring, the second since Amelio took over the troubled computer maker a year ago, is an attempt to cut overhead by 20% so Apple could be profitable on between $7 billion and $8 billion in annual sales, down from the $9.83 billion it posted only a year ago. Amelio must stem the erosion of sales and guide Apple through what is perhaps the greatest product transition in the company's history: upgrading the Macintosh operating system, which revolutionized the PC and put Apple on the map. Last summer, Amelio and Apple's chief technology officer, Ellen Hancock, pulled the plug on Copland, Apple's $500-million project to upgrade the Macintosh operating system, when it became obvious it could not be finished by the end of 1996, despite years of work. But insiders say Jobs and Hancock have argued bitterly over the "kernel," the code that will become the core of the operating system. Jobs has pushed Hancock to swiftly adopt Next's kernel and move to other pieces of the software, especially the modification needed to make Next's software compatible with that of the Macintosh. Apple has promised that new machines would be able to run older Macintosh applications in a window on the computer's screen. But Hancock is conducting a study of Next's kernel, comparing it with Copland's as well as Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. She had promised that a decision on a kernel would be made by the end of January, but nothing has been announced. Should Hancock choose a kernel other than Next's, Apple's engineers would face the difficult job of merging software from two different sources. "What Steve does best is stir the pot," said a source close to both Jobs and Hancock. "You know Steve is his way or no way." With an aggressive delivery schedule--software developers have been promised a preliminary version of the software as early as summer and a completed version by the end of the year--time is of the essence. "To pull this off, they're going to have to execute brilliantly," said John Warnock, chairman of Adobe Systems Inc., a longtime Macintosh software developer. Amelio, the self-described corporate "transformation" expert, has found Apple a stubborn company to turn around. After laying off 1,500 employees and posting a modest $25-million profit in the quarter ended in September, he pronounced the company on the road to recovery. But Apple shocked Wall Street during the quarter ended in December--usually the most robust for personal computer makers--by posting a $120-million loss on sales of $2.1 billion, about a third less than revenue for the same quarter a year ago, as consumers stayed away from the Macintosh in droves. Apple's sales and market share are declining at an alarming rate. According to San Jose market research firm Dataquest Inc., Apple's U.S. shipments plunged 30% in 1996 while PC shipments overall increased by 17.8%. At a company meeting two weeks ago, Amelio's frustration with earnings was evident, and he took sharp aim at Apple's ineffective marketing efforts. "It's very tempting when you've got a bloody nose to back away from the fight, " Amelio told employees. "That is exactly the time when you've got to go back at it with renewed vigor. I've told our marketing folks that I don't want anymore of this wimp" nonsense. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: harryt@ici.net (Harry Tirrell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IP spoofing Date: 31 Jan 1997 21:07:31 GMT Organization: The Internet Connection Message-ID: <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net> Can any one tell me if IP spoofing software is available for NeXTStep? I would like to use the NeXT as a barrier between the Internet and my local Lan. I am particualarily looking for daemons for http, ftp telnet and irc. Thanks Harry harryt@pern.com
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 3 Feb 1997 04:55:07 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-63.usc.edu Message-ID: <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Cc: mycroft@datasphere.net In <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> Mycroft wrote: > Matthew- > Ummn. I'm not really sure what you mean...if you could clarify > your question, maybe I could help =] If it's related to Mail.app, > Timothy Luomat (TjL) is your best bet...he knows a whole lot more then > me, about NeXTStep =] If it's a general Unix question, a security > question, or a Qmail/Sendmail/WhateverMTA question, I'll probably be > able to answer it (hopefully) =] Weeelll, it's taken me a bit of time to get back into the newsgroups. Mycroft- I had qmail all set up on my machine and running fine, at least for incoming mail, and outgoing mail from the command line. But, if, through Mail.app, I sent a message to an address of the form: "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> Then there would be delivery problems and the mail wouldn't be delivered, as it would be delivering to some strange rewriting of that address format, which, I gathered, had something to do with Mail.app. I tried qmail with Eloquent.app and had no problem sending out mail. So I compared Mail.app's outgoing address instructions with Eloquent's and I think Eloquent would strip the address down to: <reichmnan@usc.edu> So, just to clarify even more, if I sent mail via commandline qmail using the full address (the first ex above), it would go out just fine. It was only with Mail.app. So, if you're using Mail.app with Qmail, I'd like to know how you skirted around this problem, or, if you didn't have this problem, then what version Qmail, what version Mail.app, and what configuration stuff. I tried everything and talked to everybody and didn't get anywhere. I would certainly like to switch over to Qmail, that's for sure. -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.3 + Qmail - Kill the evil sendmail Date: 3 Feb 1997 00:23:43 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5d409f$2ed@bobby.cs.utexas.edu> References: <x7oheab7x4.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5cobfc$a9@usc.edu> <x7lo9cgky8.fsf@chrome.datasphere.net> <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu> Ident-User: liuyi In article <5d3r3b$49q@usc.edu>, Matthew N. Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> wrote: >... >I had qmail all set up on my machine and running fine, at least for >incoming mail, and outgoing mail from the command line. But, if, through >Mail.app, I sent a message to an address of the form: > > "Matthew Reichman" <reichman@usc.edu> > >Then there would be delivery problems and the mail wouldn't be delivered, >as it would be delivering to some strange rewriting of that address >format, which, I gathered, had something to do with Mail.app. I tried No solution to your problem, but I've just tried my own address of the form "Yi Liu" <liuyi@crystalball.com> "Yi Liu" <liuyi@cs.utexas.edu> on my machine using Mail3.3 w/ sendmail8.8.5. Mail.app delivered the mail correctly, as it should do to this legal form of addr. (RFC822?) I have no experience with qmail whatsoever, so I don't know anything about how it is configured. But I don't think Mail.app is choking on the address. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702021952.OAA06638@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 14:51:55 -0500 Subject: New PPPUP script available Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I have made what I consider a highly flexible, semi-robust (ie checks for problems), readable, easily confiurable script to control bringing up a PPP connection. Various controls are available: - Turn off call waiting - specify phone number at commandline - debugging for pppd - change port (ie /dev/cufa) - domain name - mru - mtu - serial port speed (ie 38400) - wait for dial tone before dialing-out - idle time * - ipparam arguments * + * = (under pppd 2.3 only) + = "ipparam" is a new feature which allows the PPP connection to be brought up to run a specific command (like fetching mail) and then brought down. With this script you can tell which program to run (see end of the script for a helpful hint on how to best use this feature) The script is available on the web: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/pppup.tjl and via email. To get it via email send me a message with the SUBJECT send-mime pppup.tjl Hope you enjoy it. It's one of my biggest/most complex scripts ever, but it has been working well for me for a solid week. YMMV, use only as directed, no promises, disclaimers ad nauseum. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: grotskos@compulink.gr (Gabriel Rotskos) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 09:36:44 GMT Organization: CompuLink Network S.A. Message-ID: <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John Stevens) wrote: >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). Gabriel
From: I donno <chu@ipoline.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 15:27:11 -0500 Organization: InterPacific Online Distribution: inet Message-ID: <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew Vaughan wrote: > > In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf > Baechle) wrote: > > > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > > > Huh? > > > Ralf > > > > -- Actually I found MS Office to be very fast and effecient. I used both OFFICE 95/97 and like them very much. WordPerfect and Lotus are good, MS Office is EXCEPTIONAL EXCELLENT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: setting dns Message-ID: <E4zxE7.J7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:06:06 GMT In article <glenn-ya02408000R2201971616430001@news.europa.com> glenn@nowsoft.com (Tod L. Glenn) writes: > Greetings, > > I am trying to determine how to set the dns address on NeXTstep > 3.3. I found where to configure IP address and router. Any help > is appreciated. This is a lone NeXT box in a mac and PC shop. > Have you already discovered the online sysadmin manual /NextLibrary/Bookshelves/SysAdmin.bshlf? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 11:25:13 GMT From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Sender: "CASH" <anonymous@mbox.vol.it> Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc1137$481d8960$0100007f@ramessei> no reply ignore Control: cancel <01bc1137$481d8960$0100007f@ramessei> Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.software.international,comp.software.licensing,comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software.year-2000,comp.sys.amiga.software,comp.sys.next.software,control Message-ID: <cancel.01bc1137$481d8960$0100007f@ramessei> Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator
From: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam (Jason S.) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: cmsg cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R1701970009460001@news.mindspring.com> Control: cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R1701970009460001@news.mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 08:22:55 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jhsterne-ya02408000R0302970822550001@news.mindspring.com> cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R1701970009460001@news.mindspring.com>
From: jhsterne@mindspring.com.nospam (Jason S.) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: cmsg cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> Control: cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 08:23:09 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Distribution: inet Message-ID: <jhsterne-ya02408000R0302970823090001@news.mindspring.com> cancel <jhsterne-ya02408000R2101972141330001@news.mindspring.com>
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:33:11 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> In article <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> writes: > I was unable to make it work. I have installed it on two separate > occasions (just to make sure I didn't make some silly mistake the > first time) with the same outcome: the X server is never able to > start. I've tried emailing the author, but he has never responded. Worked like a charm on all i386 installations I've tried. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mouse Speed Date: 3 Feb 97 08:55:15 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb3085515@howard.one.net> References: <notmy-3101971224150001@cu-dialup-1228.cit.cornell.edu> <5ctcdq$lj8$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> <5ctsdm$86b@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <sams.854828225@shellx> In-reply-to: sams@best.com's message of 1 Feb 1997 12:33:05 -0800 In article <sams.854828225@shellx>, sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: I wrote the following program to allow me to play with mouse scale settings somewhat interactively. The interface is not ideal, but it was fine for what I needed. I once wrote a similar program, but it has a NeXTSTEP UI on it. There's a link at http://w3.one.net/~shess/, it's compiled quad-fat. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 23:04:11 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0202972304110001@accs-as32-dp06.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <u02wwsxbea9.fsf@ml.com> <5ctbqd$faj@bamboo.verinet.com> <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de> <matthewv-0102970132280001@accs-as32-dp12.snfc.grid.net> <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com> In article <32F4F89F.1B52@ipoline.com>, I donno <chu@ipoline.com> wrote: > Matthew Vaughan wrote: > > > > In article <5cut31$2v8$1@alles.intern.julia.de>, ralf@Julia.DE (Ralf > > Baechle) wrote: > > > > > Still better than some Motorola chips where the software has no way > > > to find out if the available FPU is a function one or just the > > > wrecked leftover in the embedded variant. > > > > > Huh? > > > > > Ralf > > > > > > -- > Actually I found MS Office to be very fast and effecient. I used both > OFFICE 95/97 and like them very much. WordPerfect and Lotus are good, > MS Office is EXCEPTIONAL EXCELLENT. I was in no way questioning how well software runs on Intel machines. I was questioning Ralf's strange statement regarding the FPUs on "Motorola" chips. (I assume he means the 68040?) If so, the chip in no way hides whether or not it has a FPU. The 68040 has one, the 68LC040 does not. (The 68040 was used in high-end Quadra models, the 68LC040 was used in low-cost LC and Performa models, and PowerBooks. This was very similar to the use of 80486 vs. 486SX in the PC world.) I have no idea what he mans by "wrecked leftover in the embedded variant." If he's speaking of an imbedded variety of 68000-series chip used in automobiles, etc., then it has no bearing on personal computers. Such microcontrollers generally have different capabilities than their CPU relatives, capabilities which are appropriate to the tasks they will be used for, and I've never heard Ford or GM complaining. If he is speaking of Macintosh programs, then they can test for the presence of a FPU, and make use of it accordingly. (Apple reccommends that programmers use Apple's somewhat slower math routines, for the sake of compatibility. In this case, the program would not know, or need to know, whether or not a FPU is present.) -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software From: hans@vuur (Hans Mulder) Subject: Re: Next's Recycle before Windows? Message-ID: <E51F3C.73A@icgned.nl> Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> <5br11o$h14@fridge-nf0.shore.net> <5brdcu$cg4@news.xmission.com> Distribution: inet Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:25:59 GMT In <5brdcu$cg4@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman (don@globalobjects.com) wrote: >royalta@jenike.com wrote: >> In <jones.948-ya02408000R1801971034420001@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> >> Steve Jones wrote: >> > I was just curious, did next have the "recycle bin" before >> > Win95 came out? >> I can't remember if it was introduced in NeXTSTEP 2.0 or 3.0 -- >> originally it was called a Black Hole. In any case, 3.0 came >> out in 1991-92 which was obviously many years before win95. >The Black Hole was in 1.0; the recycler came with 2.0, which was >released 4Q 1990 with the first slabs. There is still a hack out >there which lets you change the recycler icons back into the >black hole--or you can choose a shredder, a toilet, or others. >If you know where to put the tiffs, it is wasy to change. I think the file you want to play with is /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/recycler.tiff -- HansM
From: kc@ignem.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:00:43 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in : most cases with VM, although a few applications (OmniWeb in particular : comes to mind) are ill-behaved. What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: fbastin@leland.Stanford.EDU (francois bastin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fortran compiler? Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:08:34 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> Is there a free fortran compiler around? (I am running NeXTStep 3.0) A fortran 90 compiler would be even better but 77 would do. Thanks for any help. Francois
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to mount ext2 from same drive as next root? Date: 3 Feb 1997 22:26:12 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5d5om4$6pk@goofy.snet.net> How do I use vmount (in combination with NFS) to mount an ext2 partition on the same drive as root Next partition? I am trying to do this on a non-networked (dial-up only) machine and do not know what to do to NFS and/or Network Manager to get this to work. Have looked at documentation with vmount, but not descriptive enough about what to do with NFS. Can anybody provide brief outline or point me in right direction? Much thanks Sven
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 17:01:12 -0600 From: billw@xpense.com Subject: Help, I need some :) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hello all... here is the deal: I have a copy of 3.1 on CD. I have a NeXT Station with 3.3 on the drive. It is only a 100mb drive. I just bought a 575mb drive. here are my questions: is there anyway to get the 3.3 from my existing drive to the new 545mb one? is there anyone who would offer to load 3.3 onto the drive for me? anyone in the seattle area who has a 3.3 cd rom i can borrow? thanks for any help you may be able to offer... bill billw@xpense.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: IP spoofing Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 23:46:52 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580000302972346520001@news.tiac.net> References: <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5ctmuj$cvf$1@bashir.ici.net>, harryt@ici.net (Harry Tirrell) wrote: > Can any one tell me if IP spoofing software is available for NeXTStep? I > would like to use the NeXT as a barrier between the Internet and my > local Lan. I am particualarily looking for daemons for http, ftp telnet and irc. If by spoofing you mean relaying IP messages as though they came from the relay, you can use the Firewall Toolkit which is free. It is said that one (or more) of the daemons (httpd?) doesn't compile properly. I don't think it handles IRC though there may be a workaround. Apache 1.1 is supposed to be compatible (1.0 was ported by NeXT) and includes proxying for http and ftp. The socks approach is preferred by many, but requires compatible apps, which are not widely available on Mac and NeXT. Proxynet is another approach to handling the TCP services, but hasn't been ported and relies on kernel calls that don't seem to be documented for NS. If you find a wonderful solution, please let me know ;-). Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 21:47:04 GMT I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds to load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw ? Netscape can do this page in a second.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:21:11 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> In-Reply-To: <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. > > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat what I said to him: OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted the app. NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. -Chuck PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but the combination of the two.... Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help, I need some :) Date: 4 Feb 1997 08:07:40 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970204080700.DAA24427@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Tried e-mailing, didn't work. What I did in a similar situation was attach the new hard drive to the system (at SCSI ID1), then run Buildisk.app on it, which installed the system on the new hard drive. If you put stuff in the /Nextapps directory, it'll be transferred along with the system. Then, I unplugged the old one. The nice thing about having done this, is if I ever have a hard drive crash, I can plug in the old one, and have the system boot. Hope this helps! William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Sam Chung" <sam@in2nett.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to compress files as *.exe Date: 4 Feb 1997 00:35:54 GMT Organization: Chung's Family Message-ID: <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> I have a typing software and I want to compress all the file as *.exe. Just like what we download from the net and we just need to type the file name and it will extract by itself without using pkzip or ARJ. -- SAM Chung http://www.in2nett.com/sam sam@in2nett.com .
From: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: HDD > 1Gb Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 03:07:33 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group (Australia) Message-ID: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> I've gone out and blown my budget on a new 2Gb EIDE drive but can't install NS 3.3 on it. The installation goes OK right up until the drive is about to be formatted, then the whole install dies with a WS something-or-other error. I've managed to install NS on an old 540Mb drive but I'd rather use the larger hard disk. Any ideas?
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 15:57:03 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> In article <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: > > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. > > Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds > to load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: "Victoria Y. Tong" <vicky@benatong.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT to dominate Apple? Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 10:58:51 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Message-ID: <32F75CBB.57C@benatong.com> References: <8D123B8.09B800011F.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SHEPPARD GORDON wrote: > ----Big Snip ---- > is the prime development architect for Rhapsody? Avie Tevanian. And what did > he do before? He headed design and development of OpenStep and WebObjects. > How many seconds do you think he will spend bringing himself up to speed on > the debris of Copland? I'd guess somewhere around 120. After that, the task > of porting the NeXT operating system to the PowerPC platform begins. > Been there, done that. At the last NeXTWorld in SF. ('95?) Mr. Jobs stated that the PowerPC port was waiting on the shelf for the correct hardware manufacturer to ask for it. ;-) I don't think it would take too long to update it to '97 standards... -- Victoria Y. Tong BenaTong The only woman in America whose bread machine is on a UPS!
From: Frank Bandle <fbandle@mmc.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax - Broadcast with NeXT Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 14:28:23 +0000 Organization: More and More Communication GmbH Message-ID: <32F89907.1667@mmc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello i have the following problem. We want to do Fax-Broadcasting with NeXT. We are merging adresses with a document, then we want to fax these documents during the night to our clients. Printing is no problem - WriteNow, OpenWrite - is working fine. but faxing (sending later, the document to the correct client) I don´t know how ? Does anybody has an idea how we can do this ? Thank you Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 17:31:51 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d2rpb$h6u@gaea.titan.org> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep > Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup > > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: > >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few > >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. > > > > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? > > Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat > what I said to him: > > OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM > swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say > a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount > of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted > the app. > > NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I > run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, > but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. > > -Chuck > > PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling > OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but > the combination of the two.... > > I second that. Opening e.g. a large table in OmniWeb will pronto enlarge the swapfile on a 32 MByte machine. I remember several occasions when this has downed my machine by a single klick on an URL (because it was only a few 10 MByte left on the root partition where the swap files resides in my setup and OW took all this for lunch). OW seems to suck large amounts of memory when - it renders a large table, the more entries the more memory it seems to need. - it renders a large image. Whats really annoying: This memory is not fully reclaimed (?) and the VSIZE of OW keeps growing and growing. (Don't tell me this doesn't matter, because I can see my swapfile growing too...) Do not misunderstand me, I appreciate the efforts of OmniGroup on building and maintaining OW very much and in my opinion OW is still a bit ahead of Netsurfer (which I use too) stability, ease-of-use and feature wise. But maybe they can do something about the memory hog problem to make OW an even better program. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 01:19:20 -0900 Organization: None Distribution: inet Message-ID: <matthewv-0402970119210001@accs-as32-dp08.snfc.grid.net> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> In article <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr>, grotskos@compulink.gr (Gabriel Rotskos) wrote: > On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John > Stevens) wrote: > > >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the > >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called > >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). > > No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used > in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). > > Gabriel Wasn't Rainbow the name of a machine from DEC? -- Matthew Vaughan matthewv@macconnect.com Classical Music and Macintosh computers? Yeah, you could say I'm in the minority...
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:08:45 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 2-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep : Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@ignem.omnigroup : > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : >: [...] NEXTSTEP does a good job in most cases with VM, although a few : >: applications (OmniWeb in particular comes to mind) are ill-behaved. : > : > What's ill-behaved about OmniWeb? : Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat : what I said to him: Thanks. This is an honest question, by the way. I want to know any ways in which OmniWeb is ill-behaved so that I can do what I can to fix them. : OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM : swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say : a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount : of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted : the app. The VSIZE output of the "ps" command is (unfortunately) not a very good tool for measuring memory use, because it simply reports how much virtual memory has been allocated--and in OmniWeb's case much of that allocated VM is not actually being used (and thus never consumes real memory or swap space). Why does OmniWeb allocate so much more VM than it uses? I believe the culprit is Foundation's NSMutableData class: it seems to preallocate large chunks of virtual memory for efficiency (which end up never being used). This extra allocated VM is rarely a problem, although it makes that 2GB limit on user address space seem a lot smaller (and, unfortunately, I think I've seen incidents reported which may have been caused by OmniWeb encountering that limit). Hopefully NeXT will improve this behavior of NSMutableData (or at least let us tune it) in future releases of Foundation. (By the way, I've DEFINITELY run into that VM limit with a simple app which puts data into an NSPPL.) : NetSurfer never uses more than 100 MB; neither does any other app that I : run. Maybe you can provide a reasonable explanation for this behavior, Last I checked, there were no other commercial NEXTSTEP applications based on NeXT's Foundation classes. Well, except OmniPDF, of course. Since all OpenStep applications will use Foundation, we'll get a much better measure of how well OmniWeb stacks up quite soon. (And compared to the few OpenStep applications I've seen, such as OpenStep's ProjectBuilder, OmniWeb stacks up reasonably well.) Although presumably OpenStep's Foundation has been much more tuned than 3.3's Foundation was (which gives me hope for free improvement in the OpenStep version of OmniWeb). (Note also that web browsers are somewhat unusual in that they're downloading several new documents--the HTML, and a bunch of inline images--every time you click. Very few other applications have to deal with more than a few documents at a time, automatically "closing" old documents that you haven't touched recently to try to make room for the new documents you're constantly opening.) : but to me it looks like OmniWeb leaks memory. Well, I can't guarantee that OmniWeb leaks no memory, but I sure spent a lot of time trying to make sure that it doesn't. Does it help to lower the timeouts in Cache Preferences? I.e., what happens if you have everything set to time out immediately except for Omni/DocView, and set it to time out after 60 seconds? : PS: However, NeXT's VM implementation should do a better job of handling : OmniWeb's VM requirements-- I'm not blaming OmniWeb in particular, but : the combination of the two.... Hmm, that reminds me of something else: Are you running OPENSTEP or NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch 1, or are you still running 3.2 or vanilla 3.3? 3.2 and the unpatched 3.3 had a bug where the window server would fail to return return memory to the operating system when an application frees a window or image. (And believe me, OmniWeb frees a lot of images: try running it -NXShowAllWindows sometime...). -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:10:55 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7u3f$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter (rdieter@math.unl.edu) wrote: : There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too : many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. : So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. All true. Just thought I'd mention that I'm working on making OmniWeb's rendering of tables faster... -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:37:05 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Cc: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM In <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke wrote: > > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. > > Loading a single html-page (~ 50 k ), no pictures, takes about 45 seconds to > load. The page consists of one big table, 6 columns, about 60 rows. > > I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the > machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. Netscape can do this in a second on WHAT processor and memory configuration? You're running Netscape on a 25MHz 486? The other problem is that Omniweb seems to actually translate HTML/SGML into RTF.. on a slower system, like a 25 MHz cube, this could probably be a bit slow. Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:37:22 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5d7vl2$79p@gaea.titan.org> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Frank M. Siegert (frank@miranda) wrote: : [...] OW seems to suck large amounts of memory when Thanks, specific usage patterns like this are quite helpful. : - it renders a large table, the more entries the more memory it seems to : need. I'm working on making tables faster, hopefully this will improve their memory footprint as well. (It turns out that Netscape takes some significant shortcuts in their table rendering, which makes their rendering much faster. Unfortunately, it can make some tables which should look great--and do, right now, in OmniWeb--turn out completely mangled in Netscape. On the other hand, since everybody checks their tables in Netscape it would presumably be acceptable for us to mangle our tables in the same way. As long as we don't mangle them in any other ways that they don't...) : - it renders a large image. It's no surprise that large images take a large amount of memory, but perhaps there might be some things we can do (at the cost of additional computational complexity) to improve this in some cases. For example, I believe we currently always render GIF and JPEG images in 24-bit color--which is necessary for 24-bit and (unfortunately) 8-bit color framebuffers, but is not for 16-bit color, 8-bit gray, and certainly not for 2-bit gray. Also, all images are currently rendered with alpha whether they need it or not, which consumes unnecessary memory when images don't actually contain any transparent pixels. Unfortunately, since we render images incrementally as they come across the wire it might be hard to change this without introducing significant rendering delays. However, I haven't done the research on this so maybe there's always a way to detect whether an image contains transparency before the image data arrives. (Hmm...) -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jaws@bizcharts.com (John Willmore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 20:44:33 GMT Organization: BizInt Solutions Message-ID: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Hi all, here is a blast-from-the-past question: We're running FrameMaker 3.0 under NS 3.3 on a blackbox. We just put an HP LaserJet 6MP on the network, and are successfully printing to it from most NeXT applications. However, we are having problems when printing from Maker. Everything works properly when printing to the NeXT Printer. Most fonts on a page do not print correctly -- they appear as the printer default font (courier). Some fonts are fine -- anything inside an EPS frame (Diagram, AppSoft Draw), and some apparently random fonts on the page -- print correctly. In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know much about the NeXT version. Many thanks in advance, John Willmore BizInt Solutions
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Reorg, Jobs, Kernel fight Date: 3 Feb 1997 20:25:58 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5d5hkm$gd1@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <8D14301.09B800012F.uuout@moondog.com> sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) wrote: > Sweeping Layoffs Expected at Apple > Major reorganization will streamline divisions, > create spot on executive council for Steven Jobs, > sources say. > 02/01/97 > Los Angeles Times > But insiders say Jobs and Hancock have argued bitterly over the > "kernel," the code that will become the core of the operating > system. > But Hancock is conducting a study of Next's kernel, comparing it > with Copland's as well as Sun Microsystems Inc.'s Solaris. She > had promised that a decision on a kernel would be made by the > end of January, but nothing has been announced. I imagine everyone knows it by now, but the kernel decision has been made and announced. This newspaper article is just a bit late on the latest scoop. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 16:56:36 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Qmxv2Im00iWY4Bhc99@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <omwudYm00iWp07Gm80@andrew.cmu.edu> <kmxnT7i00iWS01Akkk@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> In-Reply-To: <5d7tvd$79p@gaea.titan.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 4-Feb-97 Re: Nextstep Swapspace prob.. by Ken Case@criamon.omnigro > : Someone else from omnigroup.com asked me this privately, and I'll repeat > : what I said to him: > > Thanks. This is an honest question, by the way. I want to know any > ways in which OmniWeb is ill-behaved so that I can do what I can to > fix them. Okay. >: OmniWeb is the only app that will make my machine with 80 MB of RAM >: swap. When I leave OmniWeb running for an extended period of time (say >: a week or more), OmniWeb consumes what appears to be an unbounded amount >: of VM-- I've seen it with a VSIZE of 580 MB before I quit and restarted >: the app. > > The VSIZE output of the "ps" command is (unfortunately) not a very > good tool for measuring memory use, because it simply reports how much > virtual memory has been allocated--and in OmniWeb's case much of that > allocated VM is not actually being used (and thus never consumes real > memory or swap space). OmniWeb seems to cause a fairly high number of pageout events over time, and allocated but unused pages of VM don't compete for physical pages until they actually get used. Allocated but unused pages also don't occupy space in your swapfiles, and my swapfile definitely continues to grow the longer I leave OmniWeb running. [ ... ] > (Note also that web browsers are somewhat unusual in that they're > downloading several new documents--the HTML, and a bunch of inline > images--every time you click. Very few other applications have to > deal with more than a few documents at a time, automatically "closing" > old documents that you haven't touched recently to try to make room > for the new documents you're constantly opening.) If software was simple to write, how many people would pay the going rate that computer software costs today? > > Does it help to lower the timeouts in Cache Preferences? I.e., what > happens if you have everything set to time out immediately except for > Omni/DocView, and set it to time out after 60 seconds? I don't know. I'll try and see what happens. > Hmm, that reminds me of something else: Are you running OPENSTEP or > NEXTSTEP 3.3 patch 1, or are you still running 3.2 or vanilla 3.3? [ ... ] NEXTSTEP 3.3pl1. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Fax software for OPENSTEP? Date: 4 Feb 1997 13:49:42 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5d7epm$3h0@goofy.snet.net> Trying to find a driver for Zoom modem or package that allows me to send/receive faxes from OPENSTEP. Saw something about NXFax, but am unable to find it. Any suggestions. Thanks Sven
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 19:17:47 GMT >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun)>Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >Just got Mathematica 3.0: > >One the plus side: >Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic >input/output. "Kind of like" is an understatement. The Front End is completely reworked so that the only remaining reason to use Maple is when the symbolic algebra gets really hairy. In addition, Mathematica 3.0 now has a working Help interface for NeXTSTEP. >One the negative side: >Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of >"please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. Hmm, it seems a lot better than 2.2 to me. I have seem one error like the one you describe, but can't repeat it. Perhaps your problems are related to what follows? >More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. >1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer >can handle it, the HP printer can't. >2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. >I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the >printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid >of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript >output. This is almost certainly caused by your not having installed the fonts. You need to do something like: # cd /LocalLibrary/Fonts # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica/SystemFiles/Fonts/NeXT/*.font . This is actually in the installation instructions... The reason I know of the problem is that it wasn't in said instructions for the demo version. What isn't in the instructions, but should be, is that you *can* make Mathematica behave like a regular NeXTSTEP app by doing the following: # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica /LocalApps/Mathematica.app # cd !$ # ln -s Executables/NeXT-Intel/Mathematica . The instruction say that it isn't possible to make Mathematica behave like an app, but that seems to be wrong. >Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least >commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of >the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. I have said this before, and will say it again: in my experience, WRI tech support is quite responsive, and have addressed every repeatable bug I have reported. --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 4 Feb 97 19:22:57 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> References: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, Feb 4, 1997 1:37 PM, John Rudd <mailto:jrudd@cygnus.com> wrote: > Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) I have a 132MHz PowerMac with 40 Megs of Memory and an '040 Turbo cube with 16 Megs of Memory. I love the Mac, but, damn, that Cube is great! I spend most of my time on it. It may not be the fastest machine, but I'm not convinced that it isn't the most "modern" computer I've used. And, let's face it, the coolness factor of the Black hardware far outweighs any speed deficienty it may have. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Just got Mathematica 3.0: One the plus side: Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic input/output. One the negative side: Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of "please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. 1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer can handle it, the HP printer can't. 2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript output. Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. Thad thad@ion.rice.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: joerd@mail.wsu.edu Subject: pdf format Sender: news@serval.net.wsu.edu (News) Message-ID: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 00:11:15 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Organization: Washington State University Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) to Adobe Acrobat format? Thanks, Wayne Joerding Professor of Economics Ofc: 509-335-6468 Washington State University FAX: 509-335-4362 PO Box 644741 http://cbeunix.cbe.wsu.edu/~joerd/ Pullman WA 99164 email: joerd@mail.wsu.edu "Stupidity always has the chance of being a capital offense."
From: "Peter Q. Olsson" <peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP2.2 with Openstep 4.0 on Intel Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 12:55:02 -0900 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <32F7B036.548C@gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all- Thanx for the many VERY helpful responses re: ftp sites. I am having a problem using ppp on a standalone machine. I seem to manage to make a ppp connection ok: Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 260 lo0 137.229.30.26 137.229.30.184 UH 0 0 ppp0 default 137.229.30.26 UG 0 0 ppp0 137.229 137.229.30.103 U 4 1610 en0 kotzebue:23# /usr/etc/ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=51<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING> inet 137.229.30.184 --> 137.229.30.26 netmask ffff0000 But my system does not know how to use this connection, i.e., no network operations (ping,telnet) are possible. This machine has previously been configured to run on a network, though I have made the modifications to /etc/hostconfig recommended in the ppp documentation for a standalone machine. Other suspicious symptoms: on boot-up, the machine takes a long time (essentially times out) on all the network-related items (naming service,etc). It is obviously still looking for a network connection via ethernet card. Also, a similar timeout takes place when running the chat script, i.e. about a 90-120 sec delay before dialing. When connected to the ethernet on bootup, the same machine dials immediately. I am 1) obviously a neophyte in regards to ppp and 2) having some kind of problem outside ppp which is contributing to my woes. It is likely something trivial, but close does not count w/r/t software! Any helpful suggestions? THanx, PQO -- ############################################ # # Dr. Peter Q. Olsson # Geophysical Institute # University of Alaska Fairbanks # Fairbanks, AK 99775 # # voice: (907) 474-6477 # fax: (907) 474 7290 # e-mail: peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu # #############################################
From: passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Excel files on NeXT Date: 5 Feb 1997 02:20:43 GMT Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> Can someone tell me what the best spreadsheet program for reading Excel data files on NeXT computers (turbo) is? I know of Questar (Xanthus), and Mesa, but have not tried the latter yet. I am receiving a lot of Excel files (some as HQX packages from a Mac user) and badly need to be able to work with them. Thanks very much for any information and advice. -- H. Craig passim@helium.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help, I need some :) Message-ID: <E53K0p.yn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 21:07:37 GMT In article <855009608.6063@dejanews.com> billw@xpense.com writes: > Hello all... > > here is the deal: > > I have a copy of 3.1 on CD. > I have a NeXT Station with 3.3 on the drive. > It is only a 100mb drive. > I just bought a 575mb drive. > > here are my questions: > > is there anyway to get the 3.3 from my existing drive to the new 545mb > one? is there anyone who would offer to load 3.3 onto the drive for me? > anyone in the seattle area who has a 3.3 cd rom i can borrow? > But that's SOOO easy! Power down and attach the drive (correct SCSI-Id assumed). Power up and the drive is recognized. After the prompt NEXTSTEP will format and partition the drive. Then you log in as 'root' and fire up BuildDisk.app... What follows is some minor admin job in /etc/fstab. And of course, the whole process is clearly described both in the online sysadmin manual and the man-pages. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: seward@netcom.ca (John Savard) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 02:15:02 GMT Organization: Netcom Canada Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dbf2q$n6o@tor-nn1-hb0.netcom.ca> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr> <matthewv-0402970119210001@accs-as32-dp08.snfc.grid.net> matthewv@macconnect.com (Matthew Vaughan) wrote: >In article <32f0b06b.22787016@news.compulink.gr>, grotskos@compulink.gr >(Gabriel Rotskos) wrote: >> On 28 Jan 1997 11:18:39 -0700, jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com (John >> Stevens) wrote: >> >> >The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the >> >color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called >> >the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). >> >> No, the Spectrum (that was the name) used the Z80. The 68008 was used >> in the Sinclair QL (for Quantum Leap). >> >> Gabriel >Wasn't Rainbow the name of a machine from DEC? Yes. The Sinclair Spectrum was a small machine, a color version of their famous really cheap computer. The Sinclair QL, based on an 8-bit bus version of the 68000, the 68008, was more like an ordinary home computer, but it used tape cartridges based on a proprietary videotape-like technology rather than floppy disks. The DEC Rainbow belonged to a series of computers they made. There was a terminal, a word processor, and a proprietary computer with a very weird dual disk drive (it had bilateral symmetry...you put the disk in one way in one half of it, and the other way in the other drive). When it first came out, there was no format program...you had to buy preformatted disks from DEC only, but they woke up and corrected that. (One of the early Compucolor computers was like that too!) The terminal from that family starred in the movie "Electric Dreams", although either the Mac or the Amiga probably inspired the movie. John Savard
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:43:58 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-b-40.usc.edu Message-ID: <5dbnie$i1a@usc.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu In <5d7m8g$ssf@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > There you go. OmniWeb is slow at table rendering. Unfortunately, WAY too > many HTML authors use tables not for true tables, but for layout design. > So... many pages are a little slow in OmniWeb. Is there something wrong with that? 9-) -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:38:38 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg writes [...] > In addition, Mathematica 3.0 now has a working Help > interface for NeXTSTEP. This is really nice, the entire (so far as I can tell) third edition book online with easy to use links from a master index. [printing problems described...] > This is almost certainly caused by your not having installed the fonts. We've all ready returned and re-installed the fonts which cleared up many problems. Our main concern now is how graphics are printed. Occasionally, there is a strange doubled-reversed effect. It's hard to describe...if you look at the postscript or printed output, the correct graphic is displayed, then the same graphic is reversed and put right on top. We have seen it occur on many different types of graphics, but cannot pin it down as to what else may be happening to cause it. We can't force it to happen, but it has happened to every one in our group now, some several times. It is very frustrating because it has happened in a couple of reports I was writing. Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.net> has been helpful in writing a PS patch that manually turns off any DPS and bitmap raster commands that are in the print output PS. He noticed that it seems as if DPS commands and bitmaps for screen drawing are somehow getting into the print output, which causes a big mess. It works very well. > I have said this before, and will say it again: in my experience, WRI > tech support is quite responsive, and have addressed every repeatable > bug I have reported. I felt the same, and have been happy to supply them with several examples of the problem. That, however, has been three weeks ago. Regards, Thad thad@rice.edu
From: gbh@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD writing software Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 20:22:19 -0500 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <32F7E0CB.50AD@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What software is available for writing to recordable CDs? --gh
From: "Andrew Kim" <akim@pop.cogsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong??? --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM>Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong???</FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC--
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.os.linux.development.system Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan28094520@slave.one.net> Date: 28 Jan 97 08:45:20 GMT References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5ch70o$stl$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk> Organization: Is a sign of weakness In-reply-to: Charles Wiles's message of 27 Jan 1997 16:45:19 GMT In article <5cim2v$3v6@news.ox.ac.uk>, Charles Wiles <charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk> writes: My reason for cross-posting to the Linux development group [apologies to Linux people for dropping such a long posting on you out of the blue], is that it might be beneficial for Avie et al to discuss swapping strategies with some of the Linux kernel experts, who are more likely than most to have worked out a novel, highly efficient solution to this problem. Unfortunately, as alluded to in the posted article, the problem isn't so much knowing what they want to do as being willing to disrupt things to get it done. Linux has a novel approach to this - make the change in an already potentially unstable release, and let lots of people test it. NeXT doesn't have quite as much latitude, here, as they won't be able to use as many testers, and can't afford to release an imperfect version. [Hey, don't gripe at me, I _agree_ that free software makes things easier.] > \begin{repost from comp.sys.next.misc, Jun 1994} > > From: avie@next.com (Avadis Tevanian) > Subject: Re: Why does NS require so much Memory? <...> > So why don't we compact the swapfile to handle these pages that > get allocated at high page numbers? Good question. We've > considered doing it many times. However, it has always been > considered a quite risky change (how many of YOU have debugged a > virtual memory system before) and would need to be done very > carefully to ensure correctness and adequate performance. As an > example, it would not be acceptable to just start a compaction > and cause the system to lock up as the kernel does several > megabytes of I/O for the compaction. On The One Hand: A decent enough means of handling this would be to force high-numbered pages back into memory (at worst, by referencing them), mark them dirty, and then clear the indicator of where that page belongs in the swapfile. Then when memory is needed, it can push the page out to a low-numbered area. I'm not saying this is easy, but it shouldn't be hard (even in kernel mode). It's not a very good solution, though, as it results in swapfile fragmentation. On The Other Hand: If your processes are using a lot of memory, there's no room to be paging in pages which you don't need just to compact the swapfile. _But_, if your options are "Crash the system and wait a minute or two for a reboot" or "lock the system up for a minute or two while it does the compaction", well, which would you rather have? [Hint: compaction would let you keep running your currect programs, rebooting would potentially lose some work.] The Real Problem: is that, as Avie explained, if there is free space in the swapfile, it will be used. In theory, your system should just continue operating at a reduced capacity (due to seeking all over heck to access pieces of the swapfile). In other words, there must be something else going on that's locking those pages so that they can't be re-used. Running an extremely VM-intensive process and then not getting your disk space back is one thing. Progressively losing disk space to the swapfile over the course of days is an entirely different problem. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Excel files on NeXT Message-ID: <E55Fz7.179@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:35:31 GMT In article <5d8qpr$fkp@news1.ucsd.edu> passim@helium.ucsd.edu (Harmon Craig) writes: > Can someone tell me what the best spreadsheet program for reading > Excel data files on NeXT computers (turbo) is? I know of Questar > (Xanthus), and Mesa, but have not tried the latter yet. I am > receiving a lot of Excel files (some as HQX packages from a Mac > user) and badly need to be able to work with them. I've checked both and both work to some degree. You get trouble with mutiple sheets in one file (ie. Excel 6 or 7) and especially with references between sheets. My choice would be Questor (but I haven't seen the new Mesa 2.0 yet) but that's more a feeling than a fact based position. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: HDD > 1Gb Message-ID: <E55G4D.17x@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:38:37 GMT In article <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) writes: > I've gone out and blown my budget on a new 2Gb EIDE drive but can't > install NS 3.3 on it. The installation goes OK right up until the > drive is about to be formatted, then the whole install dies with a WS > something-or-other error. > > I've managed to install NS on an old 540Mb drive but I'd rather use > the larger hard disk. Any ideas? > Get your BIOS translation fixed. This is an EIDE problem of bad ol'e BIOS, nothing else. IMHO, EIDE is no technology fit for multitasking OSes... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to compress files as *.exe Message-ID: <E55G89.18L@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:40:57 GMT In article <01bc1232$b3a2ffc0$63e5e6cf@sam> "Sam Chung" <sam@in2nett.com> writes: > I have a typing software and I want to compress all the file as > *.exe. Just like what we download from the net and we just need > to type the file name and it will extract by itself without using > pkzip or ARJ. Are you sure you're on the right news group? Looks like a misposting to me :-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702052037.PAA05956@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 15:37:38 -0500 Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Andrew Kim" <akim@pop.cogsoft.com> Original Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 > What did I do wrong??? #1 -- you posted in HTML ... you might want to turn that off. #2 Crossposting to all the NeXT groups was the 2nd thing you did wrong. If you haven't read the charter for the NeXT newsgroups, you should. If you have read it, you should know why crossposting is wrong. To the specifics of the questions you asked: Have you tried going to the NeXTPPP web page and seeing if there is anything there that will help you? Have you set up a /etc/ppp/options file based on 'man pppd'? If you setup kermit and enter 'connect' and then send some 'AT' commands to the modem, does it respond? Where'd you get your modem cable? The possibilities for the origin are endless, so without some more information, it is rather difficult to help TjL
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 03:42:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dbjvo$1dvp@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Cc: thad@ion.rice.edu In <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> Thad Harroun wrote: > Just got Mathematica 3.0: > > One the plus side: > Much faster and more compete than 2.0. I kind of like the symbolic > input/output. > > One the negative side: > Crashes periodically, don't know why. I've all-ready got a couple of > "please report the following error to support@wolfram" messages. What platform are you running it? I use Black Hardware with no problem. > More importantly, I can't get it to print properly. > 1. the word "nextdict" appears in the PostScript output - the NeXT printer > can handle it, the HP printer can't. Do you send the printout to the printer with the fonts included? Other than that I never had problem printing. > 2. Occasionally the graphics has a mirror image of itself overlaid on top. > I have no idea why or how. It occurs in both the PostScript file and the > printed output. It really ruins the whole printout, cause I cannot get rid > of it, even if I re-evaluate the notebook, or just save it as PostScript > output. > > Does anyone else have these problems? I hope someone can help, or at least > commiserate. I have contacted Wolfram suppport, who asked for examples of > the problems, but they've haven't bothered to reply. > I havent encountered any of the problems you described. But again, this was black HW. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Timothy B. Stiles <tbstiles@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows 95 Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 05:39:44 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Can someone please answer this question? If I have a program written for Windows 95 that won't allow you to do anything to the window except "restore" or "close" where can I change those properties? IS it in the registry? I'd like to re-enable minimize, maximize, and size functionality. Please respond ASAP and cc: to tstiles@ptp.hp.com. Your help with this is very appreciated! : ) Tim Stiles
From: Sven Droll Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 5 Feb 1997 10:24:23 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5d9n4n$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... g77 is F77 only. Tschuess -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@cip.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail, MIME-mail welcome ;-))
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 5 Feb 1997 11:06:19 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> <5ct3lk$lh5@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131090257.22385A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> > "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> writes: > > I got the latex2e base and packages package from ftp.next.peak.org and > > installed them. there was not tex or latex binary so nothing would work. > > where can i get a distribution that works? > I believe the latex2e package you refer to is the one I built as an > add-on to NeXTTex.pkg, which WAS inlcuded in NS 3.3, but not in > subsequent releases. Yip. You can use it if you have the NeXTTeX package from a 3.3 CD. It works for the English language, but.. > I'd recommend you pick up teTeX. I have to second that. I've been fighting all day yesterday trying to get LaTeX2e to run with german hyphenation added. While the LaTeX2e package works, it does not seem to be complete, at least it seems that you no longer have the necessary files to run initex und dump with a different hyphenation pattern. It seems that I have to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:06:30 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5dcvi6$i5b@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu Magnus Nordborg wrote: > >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun) > >Subject: Mathematica 3.0 help. > >Date: 5 Feb 1997 00:51:44 GMT > >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > > > >Just got Mathematica 3.0: > > What isn't in the instructions, but should be, is that you *can* make > Mathematica behave like a regular NeXTSTEP app by doing the following: > > # ln -s /usr/local/mathematica /LocalApps/Mathematica.app > # cd !$ > # ln -s Executables/NeXT-Intel/Mathematica . > > The instruction say that it isn't possible to make Mathematica behave like > an app, but that seems to be wrong. Wow!! For perhaps the first time since the Apple/NeXT announcement someone has posted something useful to these newsgroups ;) Thanks much for this! Made life much easier for me (after a little adjustment due to the fact I'm using good old black hardware). Tom -- ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@u.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:19:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In article <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> writes: > It seems that I have > to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't > a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to > install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility > with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? I think teTeX IS a package. If not, it IS a simple tar.gz file, that you unpack into (I think) /usr/local/tetex, or something like that. Not rocket science. And, yes, there is an incompatibility with TeXview.app. Whereever you can find TeTex, you can also find the updated TeXview you'll need (there's also a version called HyperTeXview too that'll work). -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:10:16 GMT >From: thad@ion.rice.edu (Thad Harroun)>Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 6 Feb 1997 04:38:38 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >This is really nice, the entire (so far as I can tell) third edition book >online with easy to use links from a master index. Yes, I installed all the documentation on my laptop, and it sure beats dragging the Mathematica book around (it weighs more than the laptop). >Our main concern now is how graphics are printed. Occasionally, there is a >strange doubled-reversed effect. It's hard to describe...if you look at >the postscript or printed output, the correct graphic is displayed, then >the same graphic is reversed and put right on top. We have seen it occur >on many different types of graphics, but cannot pin it down as to what >else may be happening to cause it. We can't force it to happen, but it has >happened to every one in our group now, some several times. It is very >frustrating because it has happened in a couple of reports I was writing. >Frank M. Siegert <frank@this.net> has been helpful in writing a PS patch >that manually turns off any DPS and bitmap raster commands that are in the >print output PS. He noticed that it seems as if DPS commands and bitmaps >for screen drawing are somehow getting into the print output, which causes >a big mess. It works very well. I haven't seen this, but that is not to say it doesn't happen. While on the topic of bugs, there *is* a repeatable bug (which I have reported) in how the Front End line-wrapping interacts with the cursor. Type in a long expression, like f[x_]:=Module[{x},x=Table[Random[Integer,{1,1000}],{i,0,1000}];ListPlot[x]] without entering any line breaks. The Front End wraps the expression automatically. Now place the cursor on any line but the first, and hit Ctrl-a to move to the beginning of that line. Next hit Ctrl-f to move forward one character. This works. Next hit Ctrl-b to move backward one character. This doesn't work: instead of moving to the beginning of the line, the cursor moves to the end of the previous line. The Front End "misses" the first character on the line. There seems to be other problems with this, and it causes warning messages with prompt to email Technical Support. Seems like a beta test would have been in order. Sincerely, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970206111211.4961AAFcG.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5d8lj0$s4g$1@joe.rice.edu> <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dcvi6$i5b@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 17:12:11 GMT From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) >Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. >Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:06:30 GMT >Reply-To: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software > >Wow!! For perhaps the first time since the Apple/NeXT announcement >someone has posted something useful to these newsgroups ;) Thanks much >for this! Made life much easier for me (after a little adjustment due to >the fact I'm using good old black hardware). Thanks! I have encouraged WRI to put this information on their web FAQ. Sincerely, -Magnus --- Magnus Nordborg Department of Ecology & Evolution The University of Chicago 1101 E. 57th St. Chicago, IL 60637-1573 USA magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (NeXT Mail, MIME) +1.773.702-1093 phone (lab) +1.773.667-5331 phone (home) +1.773.702-9740 fax
From: marcel@sysyem.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 6 Feb 1997 17:21:52 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dd3vg$quj$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5dadd7$itl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> A me too post: A beta of my PDF distiller has been in circulation since the fall of 1995. Due to problems with the company distributing it, no new versions were released (and I had to refocus on other work). The technology is being continuously improved and I will also be releasing something Real Soon Now (maybe another beta?). Marcel
From: h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at (Guenther Bauer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:04:14 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Hi, who is able to solve the following dilemma: How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on 'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at least I haven't found a way to do so). Maybe someone can help me Guenther
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Help: How to display an image using NXImage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <E54yqB.BJD@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: boudra@cimac-res.univ-lyon1.fr Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:22:59 GMT References: <5da5eg$47g@tempo.univ-lyon1.fr> In comp.sys.next.software Abdel BOUDRAA wrote: > I am a new user of NeXT system. Could you mind tell me where I can > find a sample code to display an image (8Bits, 256Colors, NxN)using > the famous NXImage class. (my image is not a tiff, eps or ps image). You need to define a custom image representation class which knows how to read your proprietary image file. It not difficult, just read the NXBitmapImageRep class documentation and create a subclass which overrides the appropriate methods. Once you do this, the NXImage class will use your special image representation class whenever it needs to load a file with the special extension you have assigned to your file format. You might want to use something less generic than ".dat", though. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: mbritte@inconnect.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 21:31:05 GMT Organization: inconnect Message-ID: <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> Hello everyone, I am a "really" ignorant person when it comes to home page and HTML editing... I managed to build some homepage by looking around and learning from other people...but it was never terrific. I finally decided to look at some of those HTML Editor and I must admit that I found THE BEST HTML EDITOR, it is soo easy to use and understand...I now don't have to think too much about using Tables, background and other complicated HTML text...in my homepage... Here is the URL if you are interested: http://www.inconnect.com/~mbritte/nachos/index.html Use it and you will realize that i am not lying... Michel
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Shareholder Meeting Message-ID: <8D18282.09B8000150.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Chief Executive Seeks More Time to Aid Company 02/06/97 The New York Times CUPERTINO, Calif., Feb. 5 -- Gilbert F. Amelio gave the best speech of his one-year tenure as chief executive of Apple Computer Inc. today, persuading frustrated shareholders to give him more time to turn around the troubled computer company. Mr. Amelio's speech, before an audience of about 500 shareholders, employees and journalists, was given on his first anniversary of joining Apple, which has seen its stock price plummet and which had a huge $867 million loss in 1996. "Let me confess that I have never felt comfortable meeting with stockholders at a time when the stock is declining," he said. "And you have my word, for both institutional and personal reasons, that I am highly motivated to take all necessary corrective steps to reverse our downward plunge." Previously, Mr. Amelio has made lackluster and muddled presentations at the company's World Wide Developers Conference last May and at a recent computer exhibition in San Francisco. However, company executives said that the Apple chairman had painstakingly prepared for today's presentation. But while the presentation was good, there were no new initiatives and instead Mr. Amelio criticized Apple's corporate culture, drawing big applause when he said that in the past Apple's marketing efforts have been too soft and that in the future the company would 'attack" the competition. The company's shareholder meeting came just one day after Mr. Amelio instituted a wide corporate reorganization in which he moved aside Ellen Hancock, the company's chief technology officer, and elevated Guerrino De Luca, previously head of Apple's Claris unit, to lead the company's global marketing group. The shareholder meeting, which lasted an hour longer than scheduled, was punctuated with angry questions from shareholders about the company's stock plans for top executives. "He has presented this compensation package for a more than $800 million loss and I hope Apple shareholders take that into account," said one shareholder in a statement from the floor. But Mr. Amelio said that while Apple did not plan to end its stock option plans for executives, all cash and stock bonuses would be suspended until Apple was able to return to sustained profitability. He insisted that while Apple has been written off by many in the computer industry the company still had enough vitality to make a comeback. "I want to re-create an Apple that can once again turn this industry on its head," he said. "We will not be denied by the slings and arrows of a few rough quarters." Those words seemed to cheer some shareholders who left the meeting saying they were willing to wait and give the former semiconductor industry executive more time for what he said last year would be a three-year effort to resuscitate the ailing company, which as recently as 1995 was the nation's largest personal computer maker. "I dumped most of my shares at $45 last year, but now I think I will begin to buy again," said Timothy May, a small Apple shareholder. Mr. May said he thought that Apple's strategy for developing a new operating system based on technology acquired in a recent merger with Steven Jobs's Next Software Inc., was a sound one. Mr. Amelio said he had made real progress in addressing what he described as the company's five crises: lack of cash; declining quality; a failed operating system development project; Apple's chaotic culture, and a fragmented strategy. "Apple acted less like a coherent organization than a loose coalition of projects," he said. "A collection of tribes instead of a modern industrial enterprise." While he refused to specify the number of jobs that would be cut as a result of the latest reorganization, he said the company would act courageously and back away from entire businesses rather than cutting an across-the-board percentage. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple: Focus on Research Message-ID: <8D18282.09B800014F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 APPLE'S PLAN INCLUDES FOCUS ON RESEARCH NO DETAILS ON LAYOFFS OR CUTBACKS 02/05/97 The Sacramento Bee Apple Computer Inc. on Tuesday outlined a corporate reshuffling plan that it hopes will reverse the computer maker's sagging fortunes, but offered no details of layoffs or other cutbacks that are expected in the months ahead. In a news release, the company said it will streamline operations and focus its research and development efforts in areas that it considers central to its success. Apple did not elaborate, but insiders have said the company will likely concentrate on the education, publishing, Internet and consumer markets. In its only reference to layoffs, Apple said an ongoing restructuring will "include the elimination of programs and positions. The implementation of the restructuring will begin in early March." Apple Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Gil Amelio has previously said the company needs to trim operating expenses by 20 percent, and analysts estimate as many as 3,000 of the company's 13,000 workers could lose their jobs. But there was no hint of how the revamping might effect specific operations, including Apple's assembly and distribution operations in the Laguna West section of Elk Grove, which employs 750 people. Several local workers, who asked not to be identified, said they had not been told of any forthcoming changes. "We learn what we know from the newspaper," said one employee, who added that uncertainty is nothing new at the facility. "They're always doing some sort of reorganization. We're used to it." Apple also said the company's co-founder, Steve Wozniak, will join Steve Jobs as an adviser to Amelio. Wozniak and Jobs founded Apple in the late 1970s. Both left the company in the mid-1980s. One of the biggest changes appears to be that the company is consolidating its product development, sales and marketing operations. Previously Apple ran its many business units almost autonomously, each with its own sales, R&D and marketing arms. Apple also said its research and development departments would be headed by outsiders. System software engineering will be run by Avie Tevanian of NeXT Software, which Apple purchased in December to help it develop a new computer operating system. Apple's hardware engineering unit will be led by Jon Rubinstein, previously chief operating officer of FirePower Systems, a company that develops computer systems based on the Apple/Motorola Power PC microprocessor. Industry observers were pleased by the outline, but wanted more details. "It's a good start. . . . It sounds like a more streamlined organization, which is important in cutting Apple's costs," said Eric Lewis, an analyst with International Data Corp. in Mountain View. "But they need to flesh out the rest of the details very quickly." Bill Davies, president of MaxNexus, the Sacramento area's Macintosh user's group, said he was pleased by the changes he saw. "I looked at their new organizational chart and it looks like a good lineup," Davies said. "I think they need to act forcefully and quickly. The more radical they get, the better." He also applauded the return of Wozniak to join Jobs on Apple's inner council, saying the pair might help bring some of their visionary fire back to Apple. "There's a lot of people who buy into this whole Steve and Steve mentality and its important to have people in there who have some credibility, " he said. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Plans Ad War Message-ID: <8D18282.09B800014E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 10:42:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Apple Computer Prepares To Roll Out Combative New Ads 02/05/97 Wall Street Journal CUPERTINO, Calif. -- Apple Computer Inc. is suspending bonuses for its top executives and will be unveiling a series of combative new ads, the chairman of the beleaguered personal-computer maker told shareholders at the annual meeting. Gibert F. Amelio, who is also chief executive officer, said all merit-based bonuses and stock grants for top Apple executives are being halted until the company returns to "sustained profitability." Apple recently said it doesn't expect to be profitable until the fiscal fourth quarter quarter that ends in September. The size of executive bonuses at Apple has been criticized in the past and was attacked again yesterday by shareholders upset at Apple's stock price, which has been hovering near a 10-year low. Apple closed yesterday in Nasdaq trading at $15.25, down 12.5 cents, a less-steep drop than many technology stocks posted. In December, Apple disclosed that its board had voted to give Mr. Amelio bonuses totaling $2.3 million for the work he did between February, when he took Apple's top job, and Sept. 27, the close of Apple's fiscal year. His salary at the time was $655,000. Many analysts said they thought that Mr. Amelio may have had little choice in canceling this year's bonuses considering that Apple will soon be embarking on another major round of previously disclosed layoffs. He didn't provide any details about the size of those layoffs at yesterday's meeting. He did say that Apple would be cutting costs by shedding some of its business units, as previously reported. "I have a hot list and a hit list" of Apple projects, Mr. Amelio said, adding that decisions about which parts of Apple will be pared will be made in coming weeks. In his speech, Mr. Amelio criticized recent Apple advertising, saying much of it has been "fluff, soft and not very visible." He showed shareholders new print ads that directly compare Macintosh computers with rival Windows-based machines. Said a headline on one ad touting multimedia abilities of a Mcintosh: "Warning. Don't try any of these things on a Windows PC." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What comes on the developer cd & other developer questions Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:51:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ddg7n$dga@slip.net> Hi, I've run across a good deal on a cube having NS 3.3 installed. However, the developer package is not installed, no one is selling 3.3 developer on c.s.n.m and NeXT wants 1200$ for 3.3 developer. I already have a Cube running 2.0 which has interface builder. It would help me decide if I knew just what comes on 3.3 developer. So ... What kits, programming packages, or programs come with NS 3.3 developer ? Does NS 3.3 user come with some NS basic tools such as interfacebuilder ? Can one use 3.1 developer with 3.3 user? Thanks, Emmett
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 5 Feb 1997 14:42:07 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> Cc: joerd@mail.wsu.edu,dialog@onevision.de In <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote: > Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) > to Adobe Acrobat format? > > Thanks, > > Wayne Joerding I have looked all over for such software in December, and came up empty. OneVision (http://www.onevision.de) has some forthcoming products (Digiscrpt and WebScript) for editing PostScript and PDF that will be able to convert PostScript to PDF. However, from their web page I gather that these part of packages for publishing houses. They might end up being expensive, when one just wants a simple command-line ps2pdf filter. It would be nice if they would comment to this group about their plans. Interestingly, Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat) has not put out a version of Acrobat for the first (and one of the few) operating systems to use DisplayPostScript. The OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a ps2pdf program called OmniStill, but for some licensing reason they can only distribute to users of some other expensive package sold by Lighthouse. (enterprise something-or-another). Incidentally, Gunther Furthaller, who has some association with OneVision, makes an excellent pdf viewer, PDFView (http://www.BITart.com/PDFView). I find it (v1.6) faster than OmniGroup's OmniPDF (v2.0). Some files that went through tex->dvi->ps->pdf, where dvi->ps was with Rokicki's dvips and ps->pdf was with Acrobat Distiller on a Macintosh, viewed and printed fine with PDFView but were munged by OmniPDF (no offense to OmniGroup, who makes such great software, most of which is free!). Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 03:14:39 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> On Sun, 2 Feb 1997, Thomas Funke wrote: > I don't see any reason, why this takes so long. There is enough memory in the > machine and this page is not really special. Poor programming or a NeXT flaw > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. You answered your own question: > I'm running the latest (2.5b2) Omniweb on a standard 25MHZ 040 cube. Try running Netscape on a 25 or 33 Mhz 486 some time. Omniweb isn't terribly fast on black hardware (Netsurfer is considerably faster, in my experience), but it works well enough for me on those rare occasions when I need Netscape-ish frames, tables, and/or graphics that can't be handled in lynx. Lynx is 100x faster than any graphical browser on any platform, in my experience. -Isaac
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 6 Feb 1997 21:25:44 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <5d5um2$cl3@elaine6.Stanford.EDU> <5d9n4n$rfg@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: >gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... As far as I am aware you also need to get the latest gcc for this. I use f2c, which works with the standard NeXT cc, so it is a bit more modest in disk space. It is spartan but it works; I had to add a few semi-standard subroutines to the libs. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl private: gj@rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl (for the time being) web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html (-""-)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:30:03 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> In-Reply-To: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: >Hi, > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at >least I haven't found a way to do so). > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the color right? I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. Maybe TiffanyII. There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: [Q] Why is loginwindow still running? Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:22:48 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5ddljo$99@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I'm confused. Looking at the output of top and "ps -avx", I see loginwindow listed, with a significant amount of time. Is this normal? I also so OmniImage listed, even when it's not listed under the Processes panel, and I'm sure I quit it. I'm running NS 3.2 on a TurboColor. Can anyone clear up these mysteries? Thanks in advance! I'll append my output from ps below. David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu PID TT STAT TIME SL RE PAGEIN VSIZE RSIZE LIM TSIZ TRS %CPU %MEM COMMAND 189 ? S 40hr 0 0 0 31.8M 13.3M 0 0K 0 4.5 10.4 WindowSe 0 ? R N 141hr 0 0 0 18.3M 4.09M 0 0K 0 0.0 3.2 kernel i 3588 ? S 15:58 0 0 0 8.58M 4.08M 0 0K 0 0.0 3.2 TimeFlie 3589 co S 6:09 0 0 0 6.09M 3.40M 0 0K 0 3.7 2.7 Stuart 3586 ? S 1:04 0 0 0 5.98M 3.20M 0 0K 0 0.0 2.5 WM 3868 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 25.4M 2.45M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.9 Webster 3587 ? S 0:13 0 0 0 5.55M 2.42M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.9 Preferen 3983 ? S 0:08 0 0 0 5.14M 2.34M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.8 Edit 3590 ? S N 20hr 0 0 0 5.03M 2.20M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.7 BackSpac 190 ? S 11:19 0 0 0 4.02M 1.79M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.4 loginwin 3591 ? S 0:01 0 0 0 4.70M 1.78M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.4 LaunchBa 3585 ? S N 0:17 0 0 0 5.91M 1.70M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.3 Workspac 3904 ? S 0:08 0 0 0 4.95M 1.58M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.2 WideScre 3592 ? R N 6:46 0 0 0 4.13M 1.51M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.2 KPerfMon 4058 ? S 0:20 0 0 0 5.45M 1.30M 0 0K 0 0.0 1.0 OmniImag 173 ? R N 0:45 0 0 0 4.18M 952K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.7 npd 3593 co S 0:00 0 0 0 3.60M 824K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.6 slog 3 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 3.17M 752K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.6 kern_loa 4599 p1 R 0:00 0 0 0 1.98M 648K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.5 ps 3582 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 1.77M 640K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.5 pbs 23 ? S 2:45 0 0 0 6.66M 568K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.4 nmserver 3584 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.07M 488K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.4 appkitSe 4588 p1 T 0:00 0 0 0 5.85M 448K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 vi 123 ? S 0:06 0 0 0 1.62M 432K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 lookupd 119 ? S 0:04 0 0 0 1.57M 408K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 netinfod 161 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.63M 400K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 pbs 3779 p2 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.62M 392K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 3594 p1 S 0:01 0 0 0 1.62M 368K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 3877 p3 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.62M 368K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 csh 4586 p2 S 0:22 0 0 0 1.64M 368K 0 0K 0 0.7 0.3 top 145 ? S 0:02 0 0 0 1.62M 360K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.3 sendmail 109 ? S 0:03 0 0 0 1.52M 320K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 syslogd 150 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.07M 320K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 lpd 118 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.53M 296K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 nibindd 139 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.52M 288K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 inetd 184 ? S 0:35 0 0 0 1.51M 272K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 cron 114 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 1.51M 256K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 portmap 4600 p1 S 0:00 0 0 0 1.55M 248K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 less 191 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.66M 216K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.2 WindowSe 160 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 2.06M 176K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 lpd 181 ? S 1:02 0 0 0 1.59M 168K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 update 2 co S 0:09 0 0 0 688K 144K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.1 mach_ini 1 ? S 0:00 0 0 0 736K 48K 0 0K 0 0.0 0.0 init
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 5 Feb 1997 18:17:20 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dairg$bd1$2@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF1D3D15-207621@207.147.62.235> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 1997 1:37 PM, John Rudd <mailto:jrudd@cygnus.com> wrote: > > Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) > > I have a 132MHz PowerMac with 40 Megs of Memory and an '040 Turbo cube with > 16 Megs of Memory. > > I love the Mac, but, damn, that Cube is great! I spend most of my time on > it. > > It may not be the fastest machine, but I'm not convinced that it isn't the > most "modern" computer I've used. > > And, let's face it, the coolness factor of the Black hardware far outweighs > any speed deficienty it may have. I didn't mean to imply that the cube was inferior. I'm simply stating it's not really fair to complain about the speed of an application running on a 7-9 year old system, compared to one running on a brand new - 2 year old system. If he's concerned about the speed comparisons of Nextstep apps and a Windows App, why not get Nextstep for that windows box and see how fast they run then? (Considering some recent speed comparisons showed nextstep being about 2x as fast on the same processor at the same clock rate with similar amounts of memory (more memory on the windows (NT and 95) boxes, actually)) -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:19:21 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5ddld9$lbe$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> Cc: mbritte@inconnect.com In <mbritte.61.32FA4D99@inconnect.com> mbritte@inconnect.com wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am a "really" ignorant person when it comes to home page and HTML editing... > I managed to build some homepage by looking around and learning from other > people...but it was never terrific. I finally decided to look at some of those > HTML Editor and I must admit that I found THE BEST HTML EDITOR, it is soo easy > to use and understand...I now don't have to think too much about using Tables, > background and other complicated HTML text...in my homepage... > > Here is the URL if you are interested: > http://www.inconnect.com/~mbritte/nachos/index.html > > Use it and you will realize that i am not lying... > Just so everyone reading this knows, THIS CLUELESS TWIT POSTED HERE TO ADVERTISE A WINDOWS 95 HTML EDITOR.. it doesn't even run on Nextstep.. so god only knows why he posted it to comp.sys.next.software. He's either a spammer or an idiot. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:17:58 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX document without saving them as a postscript file? Thanks for any help. -- Darryl _________________________________________________________________ Darryl L. James | darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering | NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail Texas Tech University | http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ME_Dept/ _________________________________________________________________
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:09:35 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > > > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > >least I haven't found a way to do so). > > > > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background > and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the > color right? > > I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. > Maybe TiffanyII. > > There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure > way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. Actually, I just tried this and there are two ways to handle it. 1. If your background is a solid color and all parts of it are connected, then you can use the "fill" tool. To set it up you must do two things: a. Set the transparent color desired in the tool inspector b. Change the inspector's pop-up from "Sover" to "Copy" c. If not a solid color, increase the "tolerance slider" to make the fill get everything. Experiment with the slider (and undo in between tries) until it works. 2. Use the "color correction" filter. This baby is really powerful, but it is tricky to set up right. Here's what I did: a. Set the "Source" to the average background color b. Set the "destination" to the transparent color you want c. Set the "alpha" channel ON on the filter panel (the B&W "A" is the right one--note that you can make the filter only affect certain channels and alpha is off by default!) d. The Tool inspector popup should read "copy" rather than "sover", otherwise you'll just sover the transparent image onto the existing image, removing the transparency... e. Set the "tolerance" slider to about 10%, since that covered the colors present in my background; the number will vary--use undo as you experiment with it And that should just about do it. If that doesn't make sense or doesn't work for you, then I mistakenly assumend something when writing the description, so ask me for help--you CAN do this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a very powerful program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients panel. I can't seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to save my life...I sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations like in the Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <E57FJr.C8t@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: don@globalobjects.com WetPaint@lighthouse.com Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 23:21:26 GMT References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> In comp.sys.next.software Don Yacktman wrote: > ... you CAN do this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a > very powerful program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients > panel. I can't seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to > save my life...I sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations > like in the Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... Hurrah! I am not the only one annoyed by this! The only other thing that really bugs me is that I can't set a preference for the maximum default window size. I work with images which Wet Paint thinks are a bit big and thus they default to only showing the corner of the image, forcing me to stretch the window bigger every time. When you've got a 3200 x 1200 screen area, the default choice made by the app is a bit on the conservative side. Arbitrary sized anti-aliasing instead of fixed integer factors would be nice as well. Otherwise WetPaint is a great tool. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pdf format Date: 5 Feb 1997 16:44:23 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5dadd7$itl@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5da67v$m8h@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > In <970204161115.198AAFgQ.wayne@pareto> joerd@mail.wsu.edu wrote: > > Does anybody know how I might convert files on my NeXT (.ps, .tex, or .dvi) > > to Adobe Acrobat format? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wayne Joerding > > I have looked all over for such software in December, > and came up empty. > > OneVision (http://www.onevision.de) has some forthcoming > products (Digiscrpt and WebScript) for editing PostScript and PDF > that will be able to convert PostScript to PDF. However, from their > web page I gather that these part of packages for publishing houses. > They might end up being expensive, when one just wants a simple > command-line ps2pdf filter. It would be nice if they would comment to > this group about their plans. > > Interestingly, Adobe > (http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat) has not put out a > version of Acrobat for the first (and one of the few) operating > systems to use DisplayPostScript. > > The OmniGroup (http://www.omnigroup.com) has a ps2pdf program > called OmniStill, but for some licensing reason they can only > distribute to users of some other expensive package sold by > Lighthouse. (enterprise something-or-another). > > Incidentally, Gunther Furthaller, who has some association with > OneVision, makes an excellent pdf viewer, PDFView > (http://www.BITart.com/PDFView). I find it (v1.6) faster than > OmniGroup's OmniPDF (v2.0). Some files that went through > tex->dvi->ps->pdf, where dvi->ps was with Rokicki's dvips and > ps->pdf was with Acrobat Distiller on a Macintosh, viewed and > printed fine with PDFView but were munged by OmniPDF (no offense to > OmniGroup, who makes such great software, most of which is free!). > > Tim > You can add my ps2pdf to the list. It is still vaporware but it runs for me quite ok. As soon as my other stuff (CAPer, RealAudio4NS, pscheck, ...) is in a higher state of order, I will put it on my web page as quite cheapo shareware. Stay tuned, unfortunately I cannot divide myself and my paid work has a higher priority :-)... BTW. All those who wrote me to become beta tester will receive it as soon as it is ready. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Message-ID: <9702050017.AA00420@zaphod> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.0 v146.2) From: Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 97 01:17:43 +0100 Subject: Re: How to mount ext2 from same drive as next root? Cc: svenifer@snet.net In article <5d5om4$6pk@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) writes: > How do I use vmount (in combination with NFS) to mount an ext2 > partition on the same drive as root Next partition? I am trying to do > this on a non-networked (dial-up only) machine and do not know what to > do to NFS and/or Network Manager to get this to work. Have looked at > documentation with vmount, but not descriptive enough about what to do > with NFS. Can anybody provide brief outline or point me in right > direction? You don't need to do something with NFS yourself. You don't even need to know that NFS is involved with vmount, it's just how it works internally. If you have the ext2 partition on your root drive, which (I assume) should be /dev/rsd0h, you can try the command vmount -m /mount-point -p2 -t ext2 -w /dev/rsd0h The option -p2 means that vmount should look at the second primary partition for the ext2 filesystem. If it is an other partition, change the option appropriately. The option -w means that you allow vmount to write to your disk. If you don't trust it enough, just omit the -w option. If you want to find out the name of your root device, type 'mount' in a terminal window. On my machine I get among others the line: /dev/sd0a on / type 4.3 (rw,noquota,noauto) which means that /dev/sd0a is mounted as root directory. vmount uses the associated raw device for the disk and that is /dev/rsd0h. For /dev/hd0a it would be /dev/rhd0h, I think. Bye, Christian. -- Christian Starkjohann <cs@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> or <cs@ds1.kph.tuwien.ac.at>, finger for PGP Public Key. PGP fingerprint: DF FD 40 60 91 6A 14 1C CD 2C E9 07 38 AE CB 4E
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:19:05 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32F8B2F9.54E682D1@screaming.org> References: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Kim wrote: > Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 > (040 Black) by step by step instruction? I'd like to point out here that it's really bad form to crosspost support questions to all of the comp.sys.next.* groups. Be more selective, please. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jrudd@cygnus.com Organization: Disorganization References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 17:32:37 GMT In <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> John Rudd wrote: > > ? Netscape can do this page in a second. > > Netscape can do this in a second on WHAT processor and memory configuration? > You're running Netscape on a 25MHz 486? Its a 486/75 which is about 2.5 faster as the 040. Netscape needs about a second for this page, so I guess, the 040 should need no longer than 3 seconds. Still, the difference is huge. > The other problem is that Omniweb seems to actually translate HTML/SGML into > RTF.. on a slower system, like a 25 MHz cube, this could probably be a bit > slow. Maybe you should try using something a little more modern? :-) In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so difficult ?
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 7 Feb 1997 04:25:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5deaqs$1ud@news.digifix.com> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> In-Reply-To: <5ddobf$81v@news.xmission.com> For some idiotic reason I was thinking that the original source would have been anti-aliased onto the background, since this is what I've come up against too often lately. If thats not the case with this image, then its not anywhere near as difficult to do as I was thinking. Sorry for the confusion. On 02/06/97, Don Yacktman wrote: >sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >> On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: >> >who is able to solve the following dilemma: >> > >> >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into >> >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course >> >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a >> >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color >> >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on >> >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this >> >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at >> >least I haven't found a way to do so). >> > >> >> Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background >> and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the >> color right? >> >> I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. >> Maybe TiffanyII. >> >> There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure >> way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. > >Actually, I just tried this and there are two ways to handle it. > >1. If your background is a solid color and all parts of it are > connected, then you can use the "fill" tool. To set it up > you must do two things: > a. Set the transparent color desired in the tool inspector > b. Change the inspector's pop-up from "Sover" to "Copy" > c. If not a solid color, increase the "tolerance slider" > to make the fill get everything. Experiment with the > slider (and undo in between tries) until it works. > >2. Use the "color correction" filter. This baby is really > powerful, but it is tricky to set up right. Here's what I did: > a. Set the "Source" to the average background color > b. Set the "destination" to the transparent color you want > c. Set the "alpha" channel ON on the filter panel (the B&W > "A" is the right one--note that you can make the filter > only affect certain channels and alpha is off by default!) > d. The Tool inspector popup should read "copy" rather than > "sover", otherwise you'll just sover the transparent > image onto the existing image, removing the transparency... > e. Set the "tolerance" slider to about 10%, since that > covered the colors present in my background; the number > will vary--use undo as you experiment with it > >And that should just about do it. If that doesn't make sense >or doesn't work for you, then I mistakenly assumend something >when writing the description, so ask me for help--you CAN do >this in WetPaint. It isn't TIFFany II, but it IS a very powerful >program nevertheless. I just hate it's gradients panel. I can't >seem to make a decent linear gradation in it to save my life...I >sure wish I could do linear and radial gradations like in the >Icon.app gradation panel of yesteryear... > >-- >Later, > >-Don Yacktman >don@misckit.com ><a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> > > -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:09:10 GMT Organization: Paranet, Inc. Message-ID: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> wrote: > thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: > > >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an > >acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so > >difficult ? > > Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is > supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With > HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These > positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font > and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks > decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather > odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual > table rows and columns should be. > > In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the > layout. It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition to DPS is a good idea). Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu>
From: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where to find Wet Paint s'ware? Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:22:33 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Can someone out there tell me where I can download Wet Paint software? Thanks for any help you can offer. SD -- If I can't die happily-- I'd rather not die at all. Anon
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 10:39:06 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Lynch wrote: > > In article <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic) > writes: > > Is there a driver for any ISDN card out there? Is the only way to > connect to > > Internet service provider via an ISDN router? Is it possible to use > > a ISDN card on Intel machine with NextStep? > > I haven't used an ISDN card, but have used all of the ZyXEL TAs and > routers for ISDN (we are their UK distributor). Works fine with NeXTSTEP > to connect to BBSes (e.g. Compuserve) and ISPs with PPP over V120, etc. > ISDN cards should be the same (at least active ones should be). Does those ISDN card works ok with black hardware too? Which do you recommend (Prize vs. perfomance). Thanks in Advance Amando Blasco
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Date: 7 Feb 1997 14:19:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dfdlt$1239@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> Cc: sanguish@digifix.com In <5ddm1b$so3@news.digifix.com> Scott Anguish wrote: > On 02/06/97, Guenther Bauer wrote: > >Hi, > > > >who is able to solve the following dilemma: > > > >How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > >total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > >someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > >way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > >and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > >'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > >purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > >least I haven't found a way to do so). > > > > Sounds like someone is trying to take a thing on a solid background > and use it on a web page or in Workspace with transparency in place of the > color right? > > I doubt you can get an easy solve for this, especially in WetPaint. > Maybe TiffanyII. > > There was a half page article in the current MacWorld on an obscure > way to do this using Photoshop layers and masks. > > > > How about using the fill-in tool (the bucket) and choosing the 'clear' tool in the inspector? Instead of the default 'sover' (source over destination). Is it convenient enough? Note that you can set the sensitivity for this tool (in percents, if I remember). If the names are not correct, look for similar (I don't have WetPaint here right now.) Also all the methods for replacing colors should work, if you choose the transparency of the color properly on the bottom of the 'Colors' tool. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Where to find Wet Paint s'ware? Date: 7 Feb 1997 14:26:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dfe2k$1239@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Cc: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca In <5deoo9$o6f$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Seamus Dunne wrote: > Can someone out there tell me where I can download Wet Paint software? > Thanks for any help you can offer. SD > > http://www.lighthouse.com under support. Not extremely easy to find, but it's there. Good luck, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: 68K deception? was Re: "Power" PC chips.. Date: 07 Feb 1997 14:50:32 +0000 Organization: Scarlet Score For Mescalero Sender: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dzafpgvfev.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk> References: <5afe12$see@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> <32e24426.76640599@news.sover.net> <5c05bt$rn2@mailgate.lexis-nexis.com> <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL> <5clftv$q80@bamboo.verinet.com> <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> In-reply-to: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr's message of 31 Jan 1997 16:07:44 GMT In article <5ct5cg$795@upsn6.u-psud.fr> benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) writes: From: benoit@medoc-ias.u-psud.fr (Jean BENOIT) John Stevens (jstevens@bamboo.verinet.com) wrote: : In article <E4EJz4.3qr@AWT.NL>, : Drs G. C. Th. Wierda <G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl> wrote: : : The 68008. Which was used in a late model Sinclair computer, the : color one (can't for the life of me remember whether is was called : the Rainbow, or some other kitschy "color" name). Wasn't that the Sinclair QL ? Jean Yes it was indeed the QL. Richard.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: fortran compiler? Date: 7 Feb 1997 15:16:23 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dfh07$6aj@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> In article <5ddi8o$phc@highway.leidenuniv.nl> gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl writes: > Sven Droll wrote: > >gcc2.7.2.1 with g77 are on peanuts under /developer/languages/c/... > > As far as I am aware you also need to get the latest gcc for this. Nope. It's precompiled, but DOES require the NS Developer Package to work. It's been used/tested on NS-3.3pl1 only, however. Your mileage may vary. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Nextstep for Intel, 1/3 Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000148.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Next Plows Into the PC Scene --- Nextstep for Intel brings exceptional graphics, a powerful object environment, and UNIX interoperability to the PC --- 09/01/93 UnixWorld's Open Computing Magazine Any pundit on the computer circuit will tell you that Next Com-puter Inc. is on the ropes. Having given up its hardware business, Next hopes to go the distance with its Nextstep system software for 486 and Pentium PCs. This strategy may give Next a fighting chance. But right now, Nextstep also has a glass jaw. Its $995 price tag for its user version is preposterous given the competition: ODT Lite from The Santa Cruz Operation Inc. for $695, Unixware from UNIX System Laboratories Inc. for $249, Solaris from Sunsoft Inc. for $795, and if you deign, Windows NT from Microsoft Corp. for $495. PC users considering Nextstep may also object to its present lack of applications. On the plus side, strong interoperability, including support for Novell Inc.'s Netware server, and one of the snazzier interfaces in the industry may be worth the initial sacrifice. And if Next's experience with its previous hardware is any indication, applications will soon be available in large quanti-ties, given the ease of programming the object-oriented Nextstep interface. The Nextstep operating system is based on Mach, a BSD 4.3-compatible UNIX microkernel, developed at Carnegie-Mellon University. A microkernel contains few built-in software drivers, even for disk drives or controllers. Instead, it builds a framework, into which it loads the software drivers. The framework lets the kernel manage both high-level software resources and low- level hardware devices by using object-oriented messaging. Integrated object orientation isn't Nextstep's only unique feature. Nextstep's graphical user interface (GUI) is built on Adobe Systems Inc.'s Display Postscript. Display Postscript provides excellent WYSIWYG precision and prints images faithful to the screen rendition. Unfortunately, the trade- off is you don't get the X Window System with Nextstep. Similarly, Next has not built Posix compliance into its first release of Nextstep for PCs. Next plans to add Posix compliance, however, and if you need an X server for Next, expect some ports soon. Nextstep for Intel is available from Next, value-added resellers (VARs), and hardware vendors, including Compaq Computer Corp., Dell Computer Corp., and Digital Equipment Corp. The system software comes in two versions: the user version and a developer's version, which must be purchased with the user version for a total of $2,790. Additional features you get with the developer's version include a C compiler, graphical programming and management tools, and object kits such as the DBKit database tool. We reviewed Nextstep on an Epson America Inc. Progression NX 486DX2 PC, with a 66-MHz processor, 36 mega-bytes of memory, and a Wingine graphics subsystem. The user version of Nextstep requires 120 megabytes of hard disk space and the developer's version adds another 210 megabytes. Next specifies a minimum of 16 megabytes of memory for color configurations, but recommends 24 megabytes. For grayscale, you need a minimum of 8 megabytes, but Next recommends 12 megabytes. Version 3.1 is also available for the 68030- and 68040-based systems that Next previously manufactured. A FEW CHANGES The 486 version of Nextstep 3.1 can use common VGA and SuperVGA display adapters, but only in grayscale. You need a high-performance display adapter to use 16-bit color. Next recommends a graphics subsystem with a high-speed processor connection, such as Local bus or Compaq's QVision. Nextstep supports several PC soundboards. It delivers CD-quality stereo sound, if the card can handle it. Naturally, it also supports the standard devices like parallel and serial ports. Next workstation users need not be concerned about switching from their keyboards to PC keyboards. We were surprised at how easily we adapted to the differences. Unlike Nextstep on Next's Motorola-based platforms, the PC version does not detect a diskette or a CD when inserted. Instead, you have to use the mouse to click a button or two. And because we're dealing with PCs, an internal microphone isn't guaranteed, so if you want to move from the Motorola platform, definitely make some more room on your desk. Most of the Display preferences in the Preferences application are inoperable; PC hardware can't support them. Support for the integrated services digital network (ISDN) has been dropped because Next's implementation of ISDN depends on the digital signal processors in the Next hardware. Next has also dropped its client software for Apple-share file service, which was new in version 3.0. Next recommends Ushare from IPT Inc. (San Luis Obispo, Calif.), which surpasses Next's software by bridging the Macintosh and Next file-typing approaches. Nextstep for Intel is built from the same code base as Next's Motorola version. Consequently, Nextstep applications are fully source-compatible between the two platforms. Applications are data-compatible as well. Nextstep lets Next boxes use Next files written on Intel boxes, and vice versa, allowing for the differences in processor byte ordering without using translators. The Nextstep run-time system reads and writes the files in the correct format automatically. Nextstep for Intel does not include a means of running DOS or Microsoft Windows applications. To fill this gap, Next is working with Insignia Solutions Inc. (Mountain View, Calif.) to port Insignia's SoftPC product to Nextstep for Intel, incidentally the same approach Microsoft has taken with Windows NT. SoftPC for Nextstep, which will be shipping this fall, lets you run Microsoft Windows or DOS sessions in Nextstep windows, or switch to a full-screen "takeover" mode. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mach: OS of Tomorrow Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000146.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Even though this is old news, I thought that it is (along with the following articles) relevant given the recent Apple/NeXT news. MACH MICROKERNEL OFFERS PEEK AT THE PORTABLE OS OF TOMORROW. (PC WEEK LABS: TECH VIEW) 12/21/92 PC Week Dismayed at the gargantuan BSD Unix system kernel they had created at the University of California at Berkeley in the late 1970s and early 1980s, officials at the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency went to Carnegie Mellon University to join in on its new approach to building operating systems. The result, in 1986, was Mach, which serves as a foundation for modern operating systems. Mach provides to the operating system designer a basis on which to build a full suite of services for application developers. It is the first real implementation of a microkernel -- the idea that the innermost, privileged portion of an operating system should be made lean and portable. The facilities in this minimalist kernel are structured using object- oriented techniques. The abstraction of facilities this implies means that the microkernel can support a wide variety of uniprocessor and multiprocessor architectures. PC Week readers will see the name Mach used frequently in coming years, as many operating systems, both current and planned, use it as their foundation. Evidence of Mach's importance appeared in the summer of 1991, when Microsoft Corp. snapped up Carnegie Mellon's professor of computer science, Richard Rashid, to be the company's first director of research. Rashid directed the Mach operating-system kernel project. A discussion of what Mach is and isn't will be of assistance in evaluating proposed products based on it. THE HISTORY OF MACH Mach began as a research project at Carnegie Mellon in the early 1980s with the goal of incorporating recent advances in operating-systems research. The version of Mach currently used by commercial system vendors, 3.0, has not actually gotten out the door at Carnegie Mellon, although its features are basically complete. The commercial implementations of Mach are the result of some customization performed by various vendors. But as a research project, Mach 3.0 lives on at Carnegie Mellon. The list of vendors working with Mach illustrates the different benefits it provides to operating-system designers. At NeXT Computer Inc. and the Open Software Foundation, where designers wrote a new operating system, Mach provided an established and understandable foundation onto which they could design programming interfaces. They did not need to design and implement the functions already in Mach. For companies such as IBM, Mach presents a way to broaden the scope of an existing product. By basing the portable version of OS/2 on Mach, IBM gains easier support for multiprocessing and distributed processing. As an added bonus, it will gain increased portability and the ability to run multiple "personalities," such as OS/2 applications, DOS applications and AIX applications. MACH INTERNALS Some of the primitive facilities Mach supplies are for constructing tasks, the abstract basis for resource allocation; threads, the basic unit of execution; facilities for threads to allocate memory objects; and methods with which threads can communicate with each other. Since tasks are protected from each other in Mach, it is even possible to run multiple operating systems on top of Mach in the same logical system (see diagram at right). Instead of operating-system vendors having to build their own thread and memory-management facilities, they can map them directly to Mach's. This is what is done in existing Mach-based operating systems, such as NextStep, and in operating systems in the works, such as Workplace OS (see story, Page 49). Because the kernel contains only code that is necessary at that level, subsystems that are typically thought of as being part of the kernel are not in Mach. In Mach, the pager, for instance, which swaps memory to and from disk in a virtual memory system, is a user-level process that can be replaced without having to muck around with other parts of the operating system. This minimalist philosophy also leads to the absence of fundamental system- programming facilities from the kernel. For instance, even though Mach provides for threads, it provides no synchronization among them, as OS/2 does by allowing threads to block execution on the status of a semaphore. With Mach, thread synchronization can be built using other facilities in the kernel. This uncluttered approach makes the kernel and the rest of the operating system neater, as well as easier to port and maintain. As with modular programming in general, the organizational benefits should increase the overall quality of the system. Many interesting implications stem from having fundamental operating- system components, such as a pager, not run as part of the kernel. Since they are user-mode applications, they can be replaced by programmers. In the case of pagers, it is possible that the designers of different operating systems running as personalities on top of Mach might choose to implement their own pagers. After all, pager strategies for dealing with memory use can be controversial, and the most common ones are not always the most desirable. Even individual applications, such as large database systems, might have reason to implement their own pagers. This is possible, though not as clean, under some non-microkernel systems. For instance, Apple Computer Inc.'s Common LISP for the Macintosh includes a modified pager that the user installs as a system extension. The pager makes Common LISP operate more efficiently, but it becomes the system's only pager until it is uninstalled. Under Mach, different pagers can be used on demand. Another significant implication is that, in the event of a failure in the pager, file system or other user-level process, only those other threads that rely on them will fail. MULTIPROCESSING But it is its inherent support for multiprocessing and distributed processing that makes Mach revolutionary and a natural basis on which to build other operating systems. This seamless support comes largely from the object orientation of the kernel. Almost everything in Mach is an object, meaning that its behavior can be modified to accommodate different circumstances without altering its basic behavior. In Mach, all blocks of memory used by an application are objects. Because an application must gain access to these objects through Mach, Mach can determine whether they are located on another system on the network, where they had been used by another processor. Mach can then transfer the memory object over to the system that has requested it. Mach handles threads and other objects in much the same way. Thus, it can support multiprocessing within one system or distributed processing across a network, and support these features within operating systems, such as OS/2, that were not necessarily designed to accommodate them. TRANSPARENT LIBRARIES To facilitate binary compatibility with some existing system software, the Mach system allows for a designated set of system calls or traps to be redirected to a special library. This library, called a Transparent Libary, intercepts operating-system calls and redirects them to a special handler, which implements the function as appropriate under Mach. In current Carnegie Mellon implementations, Transparent Libraries are implemented as part of the Unix Server, to allow for a Unix application written for BSD Unix to execute unmodified under Mach. It should also be possible to build similar Transparent Libraries, emulating OS/2 system calls, allowing OS/2 applications to run unmodified under a Mach implementation. SCHEDULING Even though a user runs tasks, and each task is composed of at least one thread, Mach sees only the threads. This aids Mach in its seamless support for multiprocessing. Threads, after all, are only objects, and a thread on another processor is just a thread with somewhat different behavior. Mach maintains one global run queue of threads awaiting execution for the entire system, as well as individual local run queues for each processor. The threads in the local queues have absolute priority, on the assumption that they are likely to have some time-critical function to perform. For instance, a thread in a device driver for a device local to a particular processor would always be allocated to its local run queue. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: edick@idcomm.com (Dick Erlacher) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: "Power" PC chips can beat shity Petium Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 17:28:07 GMT Organization: Erlacher Associates Message-ID: <32fb4e5f.127732770@superego.idcomm.com> References: <5bluur$ump$3@doffen.uninett.no> lolsen@hsr.no (Lasse Olsen) wrote: >Nervous writes: >: In article <edodge-0701972222360001@ip-pdx19-23.teleport.com>, >: edodge@teleport.com (Edward Dodge) wrote: > >: In article <32D20D7C.C75@rogerswave.ca>, jmiller@rogerswave.ca wrote: >: >: > Lasse Olsen wrote: >: > > : They are also available in a 533Mhz clone. > >: > > Where can I buy one? >: > > Cheers... > >: > The 533Mhz isn't out yet but you can buy a 225Mhz TODAY. >: >: >: Can buy a 250Mhz today as well, I think. I wonder where the 250Mhz PPro is? > >: You can get a 300Mhz 603e as well. Even multiprocessor 604e-based computers. > > So, again, where can I buy it at 533Mhz? > Cheers... ====================================================== so . . . why is it that most participants in an inane thread as this one can't even spell?
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 97 10:42:01 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> In-reply-to: Joe Reiss's message of 06 Feb 1997 23:15:03 -0500 In article <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> writes: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text >page in an acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why >should html be so difficult ? Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual table rows and columns should be. In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the layout. I keep wishing I had a couple hundred spare hours to write a web browser. So far as I'm concerned, there's no reason that most of the pages I view should take _any_ longer to layout than it takes to download them over my V.34 modem. On the pro side, I _know_ this can be made fast, having written programs to do much more complicated text layout operations on NeXTSTEP. On the con side, I also know how long it takes to do this type of thing :-). I suspect that the biggest problem is the amount of translation going on between the HTML stream and when it meets DPS. Omni has been concentrating on flexibility, rather than raw performance. I can't argue with that, because by far the most browsers will be running on newer machines than older machines ... [Perhaps once I get my ISDN connection I'll find some time. If a browser takes twice as long to display as the download, that's one thing ... if it takes 5x as long, well, hey, something has to give. Still and all, it's cheaper to buy a faster machine than write a faster browser ...] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newbie NeXTstep questions Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:13:50 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> I've looked through the various NeXT FAQs, but still have some questions. First, what is the difference between NeXTstep 3.3 and OpenStep 4.1? On a NeXTstation, which is preferable? I've seen some mention that 4.1 doesn't exist, but it's for sale at Optimal Objects. Is 3.0 still usable? Next, what's the difference between the User and Developer versions of NeXTstep? Does the user version come with an Objective C compiler and all the various usual UNIX stuff (grep, vi, etc)? Last, is the 8/105 configuration just hopelessly inadequate, or is it okay for doing mostly minor stuff? I'd probably just be using it for PPP and reading e-mail from home. (Oh, and where's a good place to get a NeXT HWH modem cable? I'll probably be getting a SupraFAXmodem 14.4.) Thanks, Max (my NeXTstation arrives next Friday) -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 19:50:02 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dg11a$4f5@news3.digex.net> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Christian Kuhtz) wrote: > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to > be rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the > display. > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > to DPS is a good idea). Aye chee wa-wa. Um, it's sgml to rtf. That is the conversion that kills. Plus the table routines are not optimized. DPS is not the killer issue here. If that were so, then any app that dealth with tables and text would be slow, but that aint so. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: 1989 Tevanian Interview Message-ID: <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 97 03:33:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Another relevant blast from the past: MACH DEVELOPER TAKES UNIX INTO NEXT GENERATION. (MACH OPERATING SYSTEM KERNEL - INTERVIEW WITH NEXT INC'S PROGRAMMER AVIE TEVANIAN) 07/17/89 PC Week Mach, a sophisticated, compact operating-system kernel developed in the computer labs at Carnegie-Mellon University, will break into the commercial marketplace next month with the release of version 1.0 of the NeXT operating system. Five years in development, Mach is finally moving out of universities and onto users' desktops. Although not every operating-system vendor is jumping on the Mach bandwagon, several have implemented in their systems Mach-like functionality in the form of OS/2 threads, SunOS 4.0's virtual memory management and AIX's messaging facilities. In addition, BBN Advanced Computers Inc. and Encore Computer Systems Inc. currently ship large multiprocessor systems with the Mach operating system. PC Week's Evan O. Grossman recently interviewed Avie Tevanian, one of the principal developers of Mach while at Carnegie-Mellon. Tevanian is now the chief operating-system scientist at NeXT Inc. in Palo Alto, Calif. ---------- PC Week: How is Mach different from Unix? Tevanian: Unix is a much richer system, at least in its most current form, when compared to Mach. {Unix} has TCP/IP protocols and complete file-system support. These things could be built in the "Mach way" but need not be because they already exist {in Unix}. PC Week: So you didn't feel the need to invent a whole new operating system? Tevanian: That's exactly the point -- {Mach is} just a kernel. The Mach kernel gives you three things at a very-low level: virtual memory management, multitasking with multiple thread support and interprocess communication. PC Week: Doesn't Unix gives you virtual memory and multitasking? Tevanian: Mach's virtual-memory management is much more sophisticated and lets you do things that Unix systems only dream about. Unix gives you multitasking, but Mach gives you multiple threads. . . . A Unix process consists of several pieces -- the virtual address space, the file descriptors and the executable code. With Mach, you can take the execution part of it and replicate it, and have multiple {threads} executing in the same address space, which is actually like OS/2 threads. PC Week: Each thread points back to the same file? Tevanian: Essentially, yes. And all the memory is shared and everything is equally accessible, which makes for low overhead. PC Week: Why is Mach useful on multiprocessor systems? Tevanian: In terms of multiple processors, the ability to do parallel processing is the key. The two things you have to worry about are, one, the operating-system implementation has to be able to run in parallel, so you get use of all the processors, and, two, you have to make it possible for application programmers to build parallel applications. People who have done multiprocessor Unix systems always forget about the second one. They go in and they go to great effort to make Unix run in parallel. They forget about the poor programmer who has to make his or her program run in parallel as well. And that's where Mach is actually very strong, because things are tuned more toward the {application} programmer where the real software happens. PC Week: Why did NeXT pick the Unix and Mach combination? Tevanian: Everyone understands there are good reasons for multitasking -- it makes it easier to program, it lets you do multiple things at one time, etc. . . . That's what the Unix world has been good at, except when you try and merge fast user interfaces with multitasking. . . . With window systems like X you don't have enough round-trip performance between applications and the window system. Using Mach, we don't make these sacrifices -- no other multitasking computer can do what we can do with animation and sound simultaneously. PC Week: Will Mach make additional inroads outside academia? Tevanian: I think people need to realize they can't just dismiss it as a research operating system. . . . The channel is there now, and it's moving. You don't go out and buy {AT&T} System V release 3.0 at Businessland. If the question is whether it's just going to be this interesting research system or something that's really commercially viable, it's going to be the latter. Because of its technical merits, other people doing other systems are going to be interested in its features. Whether they use Mach directly or not is separate from whether or not Mach is successful. I think if some people don't use Mach directly, they will still implement those features that Mach implements. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <40935533.17051060@news.zippo.com> Date: 6 Feb 1997 09:31:37 GMT Control: cancel <40935533.17051060@news.zippo.com> Message-ID: <cancel.40935533.17051060@news.zippo.com> Sender: cjtech@inreach.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: swill@asic.sc.ti.com (Scott Williams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HDD > 1Gb Date: 7 Feb 1997 13:41:54 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <5dg0i2$cr4@phaser.asic.sc.ti.com> References: <5d78sn$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Try partitioning the drive into <1GB sections. -Scott -- ____________________________________________________________________________ \ Scott T. Williams \ P.O. Box 660199 \ e-mail:swill@asic.sc.ti.com / \ Texas Instruments, INC. \ M/S 8664 \ Phone:(972)480-4427 / \ ASIC Test Development \ Dallas, TX 75266 \ Fax:(972)480-4406 /
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Exchanging between a NS editor/processing and Word for Windows Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:55:34 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> My wife is in the unfortunately situation of having to transfer some documents, with minor formatting, back and forth with a firm that uses Word for Windows. Anyone have any experience doing this via the RTF format, using, e.g., Edit.app? Any other recommendations,. stories? Thanks. tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 21:06:45 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Christian Kuhtz writes > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be > rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > to DPS is a good idea). Funny thing, Christian: unless you are trying to stop the email spammers, I didn't see "@omnigroup.com" anywhere in your signature. Why don't you admit that you're blatantly speculating about a topic on which you don't even have enough money to BUY a clue, let alone know the real answer? Ken Case (the responsible programmer) has already given a response on this thread. And as others have pointed out, the real problem is the SGML->RTF conversion, not the DPS rendering time. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 1989 Tevanian Interview Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:58:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc1435$fc986800$8fcdb7c7@byrnejbb> References: <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com> Sheppard, Thanks so much for posting this and the other articles. Very informative and solid evidence of the solid business decision Apple made by acquiring this technology. Now if they can just execute on it--let's hope Jobs makes this happen! John Byrne SHEPPARD GORDON <sheppard.gordon@moondog.com> wrote in article <8D180D5.09B8000147.uuout@moondog.com>... > Another relevant blast from the past: > > > MACH DEVELOPER TAKES UNIX INTO NEXT GENERATION. > (MACH OPERATING SYSTEM KERNEL - INTERVIEW WITH NEXT INC'S PROGRAMMER > AVIE TEVANIAN) > 07/17/89 > PC Week > > Mach, a sophisticated, compact operating-system kernel developed in the > computer labs at Carnegie-Mellon University, will break into the commercial > marketplace next month with the release of version 1.0 of the NeXT operating > system. >
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Nextstep Swapspace problem... Non! Date: 7 Feb 1997 22:02:14 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dg8p6$4f5@news3.digex.net> References: <5cfqk8$86u@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <854317381.11310@dejanews.com> <5d7rq7$drp@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <5d7vl2$79p@gaea.titan.org> kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) wrote: > : - it renders a large image. > It's no surprise that large images take a large amount of memory, > but perhaps there might be some things we can do (at the cost of > additional computational complexity) to improve this in some > cases. > For example, I believe we currently always render GIF and JPEG > images in 24-bit color--which is necessary for 24-bit and > (unfortunately) 8-bit color framebuffers, but is not for 16-bit > color, 8-bit gray, and certainly not for 2-bit gray. Might you consider caching all pages to disk and not in memory? Cache in FIFO manner in ~/Library/OmniWeb/CachedPages. Also, this way, we could re run pages later right from hard drive... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:00:52 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? Any information would be appreciated. Sincere thanks, -Ron
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sendmail: removing actual host from FROM:? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:19 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dgdfb$qji@nntp.Stanford.EDU> NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN When I send mail from my machine, it says "stanj@hostname.domain". This then prompts people with some backwards mailers to reply directly to that host, which so happens to be down most of the time. Short of adding a "Reply-To: field, which gets disregarded anyway, how can I remove teh actual hostname from the From: field? I know that one can tweak the sendmail.cf and make the mail appear to come from a given host; the problem is that when several people are using the machine, I still would like to keep the username flexible. Mail should somehow appear to come from user@mailserver.domain or so. Sounds reasonable? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for old zsh Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:34:27 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On my Black machine, I have a zsh installed which works fine with Terminal.app -- no blank screen appended after each command. The new versions (supplied from NeXT) have this (and other) new features -- but Terminal chokes on it. Now with my new PC-NeXT I don't have a binary of the old executable anymore. Someone who does? Or the sources? I don't care that much about the bug fixes and new zsh features, I am rather annoyed by the scrollbars and a blank screen associated with everything I type. Thanks! - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:30 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dgdfm$o98$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cc: rmd103@psu.edu In <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> RM DAscenzo wrote: > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron > the Next web page has good info. Go to www.next.com, click on openstep, click on "products" on the left margin, then click on "openstep for mach". Down at the bottom of THAT page is the hardware compatability guides and driver listings. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702071804.NAA17728@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f70a2a08df7013ba57a9e221269ecafa - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 13:04:13 -0500 Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, mbritte@inconnect.com References: f70a2a08df7013ba57a9e221269ecafa - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Original Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:19:21 GMT > Just so everyone reading this knows, THIS CLUELESS TWIT POSTED HERE > TO ADVERTISE A WINDOWS 95 HTML EDITOR.. it doesn't even run on > Nextstep.. so god only knows why he posted it to > comp.sys.next.software. He was trying to make it sound legit, when in fact it was just a spam. > He's either a spammer or an idiot. Oh I don't see any need to make a distinction.... 6 of one... If you still have the original post you might send it to his postmaster, and then use traceroute to send a complaint to his provider (ie the jump _before_ his domain), and let them know how their feed is being used. You'd be amazed how many accounts get cancelled this way. Spam tolerance is getting lower day by day. A complaint I filed (with others) resulted in an entire domain being cut off for their abuse. Michel has already been added to my spam/bounce list. TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702072113.QAA00965@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19970207190913.0067d738@inconnect.com> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 97 16:13:50 -0500 Subject: Re: My Experience with a HTML EDITOR References: <1.5.4.32.19970207190913.0067d738@inconnect.com> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary "Michel L. Britte" <mbritte@inconnect.com> sent me a note of apology for the mispost. It seems like an honest mistake... After all he used his real address.... TjL
From: Lars Immisch <immisch@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:13:38 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <32F9BCE2.3988@pobox.com> References: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Willmore wrote: [snip] > In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each > job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a > later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know > much about the NeXT version. Downloading the fonts is the way to go (fontloader). I am not sure if Adobe _could_ help you even if they wanted, which I doubt. Hope this helps, Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: "Barry A Starrfield" <netanya_bastarrfield@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where can I find Adobe Illustrator Mach? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 07:43:29 -0500 Organization: Yisraelim B'Chul Message-ID: <netanya_bastarrfield-0802970743290001@slip129-37-240-140.nc.us.ibm.net> Hello There, Is it still possible to buy the Nextstep (Black) version of Illustrator? Or would anyone wish to sell a copy? Barry Starrfield
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 13:01:28 -0600 From: ralph@ingress.com Subject: NeXT Hardware & Software wanted Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <855352716.4053@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service If anyone out there has any NeXT parts or Software for sale please let me know. I have a NeXT CUBE and would like to upgrade to NeXT Step 4.0 (OS) and RAM, and HARD DRIVE, floppy, etc... contact me: ralph@ingress.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: chsu@from.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Send 20 FREE Pages of Fax to any Fax machines in the World! Date: 8 Feb 1997 19:22:11 GMT Organization: Fax24 International, Inc. Message-ID: <5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Send Fax through the Internet. Low domestic and international rates. 20 FREE pages of Fax! Send to any Fax machines in the world! No obligation. Visit the site at: http://www.edfax.com/faxsav.htm Chris Sundres chsu@from.net
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:05:53 GMT Control: cancel <5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5dijp3$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Sender: chsu@from.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Firewalling & IP Masquerading in NeXTStep Date: Sat, 08 Feb 97 23:51:42 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> Keyword: firewall, masquerade, NeXTStep Hi folks. Does NeXTStep or a a kernel extension support firewalling functions, in particular, IP masquerading? I know the Linux kernel supports this natively, but I can't find anything in the NS documentation to lead me to believe it can do the same. Add-on products? Thanks, Jeff Richmond
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 8 Feb 1997 12:36:09 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> amando@gcomm.com wrote: >Paul Lynch wrote: >> >> In article <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> jonas@eunet.si (Jonas Znidarsic) >> writes: >> > Is there a driver for any ISDN card out there? Is the only way to >> connect to >> > Internet service provider via an ISDN router? Is it possible to use >> > a ISDN card on Intel machine with NextStep? >> >> I haven't used an ISDN card, but have used all of the ZyXEL TAs and >> routers for ISDN (we are their UK distributor). Works fine with NeXTSTEP >> to connect to BBSes (e.g. Compuserve) and ISPs with PPP over V120, etc. >> ISDN cards should be the same (at least active ones should be). I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only solution is an external TA. >Does those ISDN card works ok with black hardware too? Which do you >recommend (Prize vs. perfomance). You can connect only external TAs to black hardware, it has no ISA slots for cards. And there is a problem with external TAs: The serial interface of black hardware is limited to 38400bps (you can choose 57600bps, but I found that to be not reliable). This is far to slow for a ISDN connection. You can get a solution for the DSP port called TTYDSP from Yrrid (yrrid@world.std.com) for about 200 US$ which gives you a high speed tty, but I don't think this is compatible with existing PPP solutions. IMO the best solution for black hardware is a 2nd hand Linux PC (386/4MB should do for simple IP routing and connections to BBSes, a 486/8MB/300MB works like a charme for me as IP-router, terminal server, fax server, news server, WWW proxy, UUCP host, NTP server, NFS server for my CD changeer,... ;-) ). It only needs a cheap ISDN card (Teles, ELSA, AVM Fritz and some other german products work fine) and an ethernet card. This solution is about the same price as an external TA, needs a little more work, but has a lot more functionality (and is more fun). Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702081635.AA08442@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: application/x-nextmail Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Next-Attachment: .tar.993.Q__Why_can_t_OmniWeb.attach, 0, 1/1, 0, 0 From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 97 17:35:17 +0100 Subject: Q: Why can't OmniWeb navigate in www.powercc.com ? begin 600 .tar.993.Q__Why_can_t_OmniWeb.attach M'YV0+EX`&$BPH,&#"!,J7,BPH4.$("+>F`@"0$00,6C4J'@Q(@R.'4-^!&%# MQL08,FK4@&'C(HV,-2P^G$FSILV;.'/JW,FSI\^?0(,V#)C	DR>%S(H6-& MJ%.@%VU(!8E1(U6/5R_&F#BRY,F4*UM&M,%RALRG:-.J7<NVK=NW3O=P66H& M!I<P;N:DD6OFC1LZ=,2PX5*7\)P[:>;,`8&D#!L[9>BD&1-F1Q\%7-J$D7.& M#4H8F#5SEO,9,YS-9+C0P5-CQ@S5>&*PO`$[!MD8L&7$F%$CMU0<L&?(@"$C M^(T9-F#3,&EW-0T<,%ZO;CV#=F$Q=M/8K</&C=\RAF70(#S&[IBZC-.`H(.F MC)PR()R4P4(%A`D00>#`80-_3AW];RSEWAPL<(&9`D2\4<9B>.7Q'0AK>'<' M"'>@D0<(3[3A1AI7E"$&"#*X4$,+8D06!H@@4.:&,'2`X$88=J1Q1AATP%<4 MA7?<X0(<;]SAWAACN##&&VV`\(.!!CKQ1HOLT0A"$A3BQ>0;((A1QX5XX:<? M?RFR\9T+8%991XM0AE&D&G7,,66*=<B1QAMI/@G"&74LN-@.+:2`I`)4H($7 M'BR`P`2-[H&P@H%'O!=946<L9H8<1!J80`(@4`I"F%/4:$:6889T$0Y>Z'E@ M#RV0:FJIJ)ZJ:JJLKNIJJ["^JJJ!F9:QJ1N,U<F&&9,FP$0:9O1W6EX@:.;& MA60`&^Q[?Z7XAI=R$"AFBR`8:,<;D\&W`@@TY`!""]Q^!"X-']$P`TDT?`N" M%$4$P00(0Q`)QYB,@I!8E2BPD4(88ZQ!81KL:;E?&5-04004!JII*UY`H*&K M&2[XV8:5G`E))`@HR$>?9FFPP4(32311A'WX33%$$DFD`(((;>2A,15/3"%" M#^OZ"<<<;Y"1AX&RQNISST#_+'0/>XIP17NXL@<?&HG1$>"%;Y@A,)?QMC%O MC7+8N]@=;@)6AAN!U@H9"$J\(<8)BWTMV7L@(`6'>VE\/09\3KY<;!@7E@C" M'&5\#4(8#&(D0PMYE+%9"UZZ<<;>:]3AQAIW!+C&8G!`JD898]`APIX)3)%& M&SCCRH0+(!RQF1E%K>&8O;@RO5@0+[*1AUZ+D4$&"$1@#F(,:@8:0PXYV%"@ M`KTF,*]@B;5WNQ@73I%EV7R#T,2/;5[H1AEWS+%G"]PK<!E<X(<O_OCDEV_^ D^>BGK_[Z[+?O_OOPQR___/37;__]^.>O__[\]^___P`,H$\` ` end
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 9 Feb 1997 08:14:47 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5dk11n$6jd@vader.WolfWare.com> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> In-Reply-To: <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> On 02/07/97, Michael Pieper wrote: >You can connect only external TAs to black hardware, it has no ISA slots for >cards. And there is a problem with external TAs: >The serial interface of black hardware is limited to 38400bps (you can choose >57600bps, but I found that to be not reliable). This is far to slow for a >ISDN connection. You can get a solution for the DSP port called TTYDSP from >Yrrid (yrrid@world.std.com) for about 200 US$ which gives you a high speed >tty, but I don't think this is compatible with existing PPP solutions. The nice thing about black boxes though is they have that handy built-in ethernet port. If you get an external router you can connect it directly to the next box with a cross-over 10-base-T cable. I'm running a Pipeline 50 as an ISDN router for a lan consisting of a NeXTstation Turbo and an Intel PPro box both running OpenStep 4.1 for Mach and it works like a charm (since I've got 2 machines connected to the router I also needed an ethernet hub of course.) (The NeXT box is also running a PPP link for certain low-bandwith purposes too!) I opted for an external router over a Linux box with an ISDN card for a couple reasons... it doesn't require yet another box/monitor on my desk, the router was simpler to configure, I didn't need the functionality of yet another generic unix box since the NeXTstation was already configured to do all the mail, news, NFS serving etc. that I needed. Just my 2 cents, - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 12:03:21 GMT Organization: 3Wiz - World Wide Web Consultants Message-ID: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't compile. Thanks, Dave
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: "Can't create /Users directory" under root ?? Date: 9 Feb 1997 14:09:15 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <5dklqb$hfh@news.knoware.nl> References: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5dbqg3$hr1@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Hi, I tried to create a new user (a local one) while being logged in as root, with the UserManager application. I have done it before without any problems, but that was in NS 3.2. I am currently running NS3.3. After I fill in the details of the user (having tried everything from not using any caps, using single names etc.) the UserManager ask if the directory /Users should be created. A yes to that question gives "Can't create /Users directory" trying to change the directory to another name has proven not to be accepted. Also destroying the current Users directory proved no success. Any infromation on this subject is highly appriciated, Paul Harts The netherlands harts@knoware.nl Next/MIME mail welcomed -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ====================================================
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:41:18 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <EmzT0Se00iWW81I3wQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.programmer: 9-Feb-97 Arbitary precision arithmetic? by Dave Griffiths@prim.demo > Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do > arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? Sure-- libmp.a, documented in 'man mp'. However, you'd be well advised to use the GNU MP library, libgmp.a, since the GNU implementation is significantly better than the stock Unix version.. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:48:15 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Cc: Greg_Anderson@afs.com In <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > Christian Kuhtz writes > > It's not the layout. It is the overhead generate by translating > > rendered HTML into SGML into PostScript, which then again has to be > > rendered into the actual bitmapped graphic you see on the display. > > That's what kills it (which is why QuickDraw on Rapsody in addition > > to DPS is a good idea). > > Funny thing, Christian: unless you are trying to stop the email spammers, > I didn't see "@omnigroup.com" anywhere in your signature. Why don't you > admit that you're blatantly speculating about a topic on which you don't > even have enough money to BUY a clue, let alone know the real answer? > > Ken Case (the responsible programmer) has already given a response on > this thread. And as others have pointed out, the real problem is the > SGML->RTF conversion, not the DPS rendering time. > Maybe you'd call me an ignorant, but here is my opinion about OmniWeb's speed. There are two approaches to software development, two answers to the complaint that a program is too slow: 1. Write the program better. 2. Buy a faster computer. While some time ago I got the answer 2 from Omnigroup, we recently read in their post that they are in stage 1. At least with the table rendering routines. This is good news. I think that the speed of the table rendering is really ridiculous. I think (an educated guess) the problem is that some of the routines in OmniWeb are rather elegant from the programming point of view but not optimized for performance. Let's give them some time, they have rewritten OW 1.0 completely into OW 2.0, so they might need some time to optimize the code. But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL WEB BROWSER. Howgh, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SQL database Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 14:44:44 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit do anyone know of any cheep or even free database software that supports SQL for a NeXT cube??
From: reichman@usc.edu (Matthew N. Reichman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 9 Feb 1997 19:31:57 GMT Organization: Como me Gusta productions Sender: reichman@comserv-i-18.usc.edu Message-ID: <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: rudy In <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, > OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. > > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL > WEB BROWSER. I think, from listening to Ken, that Omni knows it's slow. I just tried out Netscape and, by comparison, OmniWeb's features, design and capabilities are far superior. In fact, they are so far above Netscape 3.01 Gold or whatever it's called, that it makes it a bit difficult to design web pages. In fact, most things about NextStep make it more difficult to design web sites, as there is little help in designing "down" to the level of Netscape and MSIE. I'm mainly talking about things like code and graphics. I find that Omniweb does many things, like graphics representation and consistency with the 3.2 Final specs (plus some of the 3.0 stuff), that other browsers can't handle yet. Ironically, I wish I could run Netscape and MSIE on my turbo slab so that I might have a better shot at making their facsimiles of html pages look decent! I have still to figure out a sure-fire way of handling graphics (I've got TIFFany, GifOmatic, Giftools, Pixel Magician, and more) and I find it a pain in the ass converting the beautiful images those programs allow me to make into something even close under Netscape/MSIE (not to mention all the other browsers which I have yet to see). It's a nightmare of pixelization, weird color mapping, and gamma viruses! -- Be well, Matthew Reichman <reichman@usc.edu> NeXTMAIL, SUN Mail & MIME welcome PGP key --> email w/ subject "request_PGP"
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 09 Feb 1997 15:13:34 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> Feb 09 02:33:00 1997 To: Christopher Rath From: 'nobumako@escape.com' Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Sent by: 'noel@nobumako.escape.com' In comp.sys.next.software you wrote: > I was unable to make it work. I have installed it on two separate > occasions (just to make sure I didn't make some silly mistake the > first time) with the same outcome: the X server is never able to > start. I've tried emailing the author, but he has never responded. I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. P.S. Can you post this reply to the newsgroup? My provider's news server is so lousily maintained that I can't seem to post right now! === Noel Bush <nobumako@escape.com> (NeXTmail A-OK!) === Brooklyn NY === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 9 Feb 1997 22:00:51 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5dlhej$r1i@news4.digex.net> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is > a WONDERFUL WEB BROWSER. Yes, I'd go as far and say, that the best quality output I see on any platform is from OmniWeb (sans any java, VRML stuff since it doesn't exist under NEXTSTEP yet). The output seems better, and more accurate than Netscape's...and I appreciate that. However, it is orders of magnitude slower for many common viewing tasks... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 10 Feb 1997 00:52:42 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5dlrgq$nkv@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > But let's also make the message clear: While being a wonderful web browser, > OmniWeb is WAY TOO SLOW, no doubt about that. > > To balance out the criticism: While being very slow, OmniWeb is a WONDERFUL > WEB BROWSER. I run OmniWeb on a Turbo Station with a 14.4 modem, and Navigator on a Mac PowerBook 5300c with a 28.8 modem. From my experience and with these hardware configurations, OmniWeb is actually FASTER that Navigator! Or at least it seems faster to me (I've never actually timed anything). This is pretty amazing, given that the Mac CPU is an order of magniturde faster than my slab, and that the Mac modem is twice as fast as what's on my slab... Or it could be that the experience of using OmniWeb is so much more enjoyable than using that aweful Navigator that I don't mind the speed. I dunno... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb Doesn't Work Message-ID: <1997Feb9.221524.2310@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 9 Feb 97 22:15:24 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I am a new NeXT user, and I am trying to install OmniWeb. I am on a NeXTstation Turbo Color running NeXTStep 3.0.5. I downloaded the software, decompressed and untared it, but it does not work. E-mail help please. -Bill Carlisle carlisle@juniata.edu
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: daydream and colorspace? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:27:10 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5dm82u$p75@eve.enteract.com> I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model (for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel reports that this is 2.1.1) Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? thanks, -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: Joe Reiss <jreiss@vt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Date: 06 Feb 1997 23:15:03 -0500 Organization: My own private I-Don't-Know Sender: joe@pooh Message-ID: <x5iv459rqw.fsf@vt.edu> References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <5d7vkh$8mi$5@majipoor.cygnus.com> <1997Feb5.173237.848@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In my eyes, the cube still has the power to render a almost-text page in an >acceptable time. It can do Postscript quite fast, why should html be so >difficult ? Because Postscript code tells you exactly where each and every item is supposed to appear on screen. You just have to draw it there. With HTML, you have to figure positions out for yourself on the fly. These positions will vary based on the size of the window and on the font and on a couple dozen other things. Getting a layout that looks decent is no simple matter, especially with tables. There's a rather odd and finicky algorithm just to figure out how large individual table rows and columns should be. In short, the problem isn't in the graphical rendering; it's in the layout. Joe -- | NeXTMail OK! | If I were God, I'd have more hair and a deeper voice. | | ________ | | | | |__) | ======================================================== | | (_|OE| \EISS | - JMS on being deified by the fans |
From: Carsten Ziegeler <cziege@uni-paderborn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: CD writing software Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:52:39 +0100 Organization: ZIEGELER INFOSYSTEMS Message-ID: <32FEEFE7.1C23@uni-paderborn.de> References: <32F7E0CB.50AD@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit gbh@erols.com wrote: > > What software is available for writing to > recordable CDs? > > --gh The beta test version of the CDDesigner is available from the peanuts archive. It is a pre- and mastering application with an easy to use gui. Carsten Ziegeler ------------------------------------------------------------ ZIEGELER INFOSYSTEMS NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP DEVELOPMENT SOFT- AND HARDWARE-SOLUTIONS Carsten Ziegeler Danziger-Str. 17 email: cziege@uni-paderborn.de 33129 Delbrueck phone: +(49) 05250 - 933260 Germany Contact for more information
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Exchanging between a NS editor/processing and Word for Windows Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:25:10 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dn7jm$7vj@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <5dg8cm$mp8@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > My wife is in the unfortunately situation of having to transfer some > documents, with minor formatting, back and forth with a firm that > uses Word for Windows. Anyone have any experience doing this > via the RTF format, using, e.g., Edit.app? Any other recommendations,. > stories? > > Thanks. > > tim > I'd recommend CedarWord for that task. It's rather cheap and fully supports the RTF format (significantly better than Edit.app). And its also a pretty good (small) Word Processor. See: http://www.cedar.co.uk/ for more information. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for old zsh Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:29:28 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dn7ro$7vj@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Cc: stanj@cs.stanford.edu In <5dge63$qph@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Stan Jirman wrote: > On my Black machine, I have a zsh installed which works fine with > Terminal.app -- no blank screen appended after each command. The new versions > (supplied from NeXT) have this (and other) new features -- but Terminal > chokes on it. > > Now with my new PC-NeXT I don't have a binary of the old executable anymore. > Someone who does? Or the sources? I don't care that much about the bug fixes > and new zsh features, I am rather annoyed by the scrollbars and a blank > screen associated with everything I type. The new zsh version (3.0.2) works pretty well with nextstep on intel and motorola, if you use the following entry for /etc/termcap, instead of the original vt100 entry (thanks to the zsh-workers mailinglist): d0|vt100|vt100-am|vt100am|dec vt100:\ :cr=^M:nl=^J:bl=^G:ta=^I:\ :do=^J:co#80:li#24:cl=50\E[;H\E[2J:sf=2*\ED:\ :le=^H:bs:am:cm=5\E[%i%d;%dH:nd=2\E[C:up=2\E[A:\ :ce=3\E[K:cd=50\E[J:so=2\E[7m:se=2\E[m:us=2\E[4m:ue=2\E[m:\ :md=2\E[1m:mr=2\E[7m:mb=2\E[5m:me=2\E[m:is=\E[1;24r\E[24;1H:\ :ct=2\E[3g:st=2\EH:\ :rf=/usr/lib/tabset/vt100:\ :rs=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h:ks=\E[?1h:ke=\E[?1l:\ :ku=\EOA:kd=\EOB:kr=\EOC:kl=\EOD:kb=^H:\ :ho=\E[H:k1=\EOP:k2=\EOQ:k3=\EOR:k4=\EOS:pt:sr=2*\EM:vt#3:xn:\ :sc=\E7:rc=\E8:cs=\E[%i%d;%dr:\ :it#8:xo: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:57:41 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <5dn9gl$94a@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu>, darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) writes: > Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX > document without saving them as a postscript file? I do not think so. A least, it should be very easy to go the postscript way via the "Net PNM" Tools providing batch commands for "giftopnm" and "pnmtops". You might be able write a TeX-macro which uses this two commands. And you might reask the question in a "TeX" related newsgroup. Bernhard
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 10 Feb 97 08:22:17 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> In-reply-to: dave@prim.demon.co.uk's message of Sun, 9 Feb 1997 10:53:07 GMT In article <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk>, dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) writes: In article <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net>, shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: >I've posted a copy of tcl7.6 modified to compile under NeXTSTEP3.3 >to my home page. Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with that. Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: SQL database Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:02:22 GMT Organization: Universitaet Osnabrueck Message-ID: <5dn9pe$94a@deimos.rz.uni-osnabrueck.de> References: <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <32FE292C.59E6@stevens-tech.edu>, Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> writes: > do anyone know of any cheep or even free database software that supports > SQL for a NeXT cube?? mSQL also called MiniSQL. Even saw an EOF interface for it. But there ought to be more. Bernhard Reiter
From: jennifer@takeaguess.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: CD-R Media Blowout Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:18 GMT Organization: thecopycatshop Message-ID: <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> We have the following CD-R media for sale. Brand: Pioneer Type: Printable Media (Surface is blank for printing or labels) Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.99 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Maxell Type: Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: TDK Type: Gold on Green Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 6.55 Minimum Order: 10 Brand: Hewlett Packard Type Gold on Gold Size: 74 min (650 mb) Price: 7.15 Minimum Order: 10 Lifetime Warranty The Copy Cat Shop has all your CD duplication, replication, recorders, software, and media needs. If you have any questions feel free to call. Cordially, The Copy Cat Shop 213-650-1680 213-650-9110 Fax
From: tpali@everx.szbk.u-szeged.hu (Tibor Pali) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXTstep for spectroscopist? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 16:06:02 +0100 Organization: Inst. Biophysics, Biological Res. Centre, Szeged Message-ID: <19970210160602844696@esrmac00.szbk.u-szeged.hu> My institute is considering a purchase of a fast computer (below 10k $) for the folowing purpose (in the order of importance): - molecular modelling/dynamics - software development (in C, FORTRAN and Java for spectrum simulation and data processing) - database building/management (i.e. spectrum libraries) - data presentation (spectrum plotting, fitting, etc.) - web service - symbolic mathematics. The candidates are a Sun UltraSparc 1, multiprocessing PowerPC and dual PPro. I would like to know whether Openstep for Mach as an OS is suitable for my purpose and, if yes, what hardware would be best, and what are/will be the most common and capable applications for the above tasks. Thanks, -- Tibor Szeged, Hungary
From: Joseph Panico <jpanico@online.disney.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 09:48:17 -0500 Organization: Disney Online Message-ID: <32FF3531.580@online.disney.com> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave Griffiths wrote: > > Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do > arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found > something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't > compile. > > Thanks, > > Dave Of course the Foundation's NSDecimalNumber will also allow you to do fixed point, near arbitrary (exponent of +-127) precision arithmetic. If you are so inclined, you can use a C interface into this functionality rather than access it as Obj-C classes. Look in NSDecimal.h. -- Joe Panico Disney Online jpanico@online.disney.com
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: https browser? Date: 10 Feb 1997 15:05:00 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. Is there a browser for Next that does? Much thanks Sven
From: jennifer@takeaguess.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:18 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5dnafq$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Feb 10 17:08:37 1997 Original subject was: CD-R Media Blowout
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: printing FrameMaker 3.0 (blackbox) to LaserJet Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:47:15 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dnjej$c1v@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> Cc: jaws@bizcharts.com In <5d86eu$cpd@news04.deltanet.com> John Willmore wrote: > In the old days, we used to download fonts to the printer before each > job. Do we need to do that, or is there a better solution? Does a > later version of Maker fix this? We tried Adobe, but they don't know > much about the NeXT version. I don't know who it was, but someone on the net pointed out that an additional property called _nxfinalform in the printcap entry of the printer in question will make Nextstep automatically download the used fonts to the printer before printing the document. As an example: ray:rft> nidump printcap / Papermill: \ :_nxfinalform:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Druckwerk:rm=papermill:rp=:lp=: \ :ty=HP LaserJet 5M:note=Papersize is A4:lo=lock:rs: This can be entered using the Netinfomanager by adding the property _nxfinalform to the netinfo directory of the printer. I do not know which versions of Nextstep will recognize this property. I am only using Nextstep 3.3 on intel and motorola and it works. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: pictures in LaTEX? Date: 10 Feb 1997 18:22:21 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnp0t$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5ddlam$lsm@ttacs7.ttu.edu> darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) wrote: >Is it possible to put .gif or .jpeg or .tiff pictures in a LaTEX >document without saving them as a postscript file? yes, but.. ok, you could do so, and generate output from DVI using a different dvi driver instead of dvips. I advise against it. Alternatively, I seem to remember that the eps.sty package let's you enter a shell command inside an \epsfile{} directive instead. I think that you can do a \epsffile{`gifftops file.gif`} or something similar. Check out the excellent eps documentation that comes with NEXTSTEP (sic). Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:37:27 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnmcn$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> wrote: >I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a >command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, >but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. Just wanted to add my own 2 cents. First of all, I hope we're talking about the same "Xnext" - the shareware Xnext package by Stefan Leuker, which can be retrieved from www.peanuts.org. I've tested it quite thoroughly on a variety of platforms, since I was looking for an X implementation that would allow me to do Java development. I have an old copy of CoXist, but ever since I upgraded to 3.3 it frequently crashed (actually, it would start to hang, and had to be kill -9'ed). My experience: Black Hardware, 3.3: No problems at all. Black hardware, 4.1: No problems at all. Intel hardware, 4.1: Works ok, but does not feel any faster then on black hardware, which I had expected (and hoped). I was a bit disappointed. However, this may be related to the fact that NeXT machines have a very efficient graphics HW, whereas my Pentium 90 uses an ATI m64 graphics card, which isn't exactly fast. Would another card improve the graphics speed? Suggestions are welcome. So, I have not experienced any problems with Xnext. Make sure to get the latest release, and install all necessary components. If you still have problems, get back to me in personal email, and I will try to help you fix them. To summarize: On black hardware, Xnext is a good choice. Well worth the shareware fee. All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: spamwall~mouser@zercom.net (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:11:01 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Distribution: inet Message-ID: <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> In article <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com>, webmaster@q-net.pair.com wrote: > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on the > computer > 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself > > 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer > > 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port > > 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port > > 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for > a Motorola processer > 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, > any other useful software. > 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola > > I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a > NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I > am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a > few good books on NeXT. > > Thanks > Tom Reminga > E-Mail me at: > mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com > > Q-Net Internet Services > http://www.q-net.pair.com Check out Spherical Solutions at www.orb.com. They have cheap NeXT hardware and components. Martin-Gilles L.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:58:18 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dnnjq$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: >In article <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss > writes: >> to bite the bullet and install teTeX. Unfortunaltely, there isn't >> a .pkg file around (somebody pu-leeze build one!), so you have to >> install it manually. There also seems to be some incompatibility >> with TeXView.app. Maybe somebody with teTeX experience can advise? >I think teTeX IS a package. If not, it IS a simple tar.gz file, that you >unpack into (I think) /usr/local/tetex, or something like that. Not rocket >science. Certainly not.. but that was not the case, at least not with the tar file and instruction set _I_ had. And no, tetex is not available as a pkg, either. It would be great if somebody could build one! When I tried tetex installation two weeks ago, it came with an install routine, which printed a cryptic error message during some intermediate step, and simply terminated without giving any useful hints as to what might have been wrong. Now tetex might be a very nice piece of software, but that is certainly not the comfortable, simple installation that Nextstep users are normally used to. So, if some kind sould has tetex running, and knows the incantations required to build a package, I'm sure it would be appreciated by many Nextstep users. All the best, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: https browser? Date: 10 Feb 1997 19:34:20 GMT Organization: Leiden University, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl> References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >Is there a browser for Next that does? Yes, it's called OmniWeb. Drop in the bundle ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/www/omniweb2bundles/htt ps.0.5a.NIHS.bs.tar.gz, which is conveniently located outside the US so you are *im*porting ammunition, which is allowed. There may be a patent snag, though. Sigh. -- Geert Jan van Oldenborgh work: oldenbor@knmi.nl private: gj@rulil0.LeidenUniv.nl, soon gjvo@xs4all.nl web: http://rulgm4.leidenuniv.nl/gj/gj.html, http://www.xs4all.nl/~gjvo
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 10 Feb 97 19:00:06 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AF2520B9-219889@207.147.60.191> References: <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.soft-sys.nextstep On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:11 PM, Martiin-Gilles Lavoie <mailto:spamwall~mouser@zercom.net> wrote: > > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my > NeXT > > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > > > 1 Monoter Cord- Monocrome- I am unsure since I can not even turn on > the > > computer > > 2 Power Cords- One for Printer and One for computer itself You can get these in any computer store. > > > > 1 Printer Cords- To connect the printer to the computer > > > > 1 CD-Rom Drive- That can be connected to the SCSI port Any SCSI CD ROM drive will work. > > > > 1 Hard Drive (500 or so megs)- That can be connected to the SCSI port Any SCSI HD will work, regardless of whether it is formatted NeXT, mac or IBM. Try it, you'll see what I'm talking about. > > > > 1 Latest version of the operating system- Developer and user version for > > a Motorola processer > > 1 Set of Software- Browser, E-Mail Client, Word Processer, Spread Sheet, > > any other useful software. > > 1 A later version of their web development suiet for Motorola > > > > I have a Motorola NeXT Station with a Mega Pixel monoter. I also have a > > NeXT printer(laser). I am unsure of the RAM or Hard Disk space since I > > am unable to turn the computer on. Also if anyone could direct me to a > > few good books on NeXT. Steve Jobs and the NeXT Big Thing --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: apache 1.1.3 webserver on NSFIP & Motorola? Date: 10 Feb 1997 20:37:55 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5do0v3$e7v@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone have apache 1.1.3 compiled for NS on Intel and Motorola? Could you please NeXTMail it to me or could I ftp from somewhere? The latest compiled version www.apache.org has is 1.1.0 and I'm not set up to compile on both these platforms. Stephen
From: "M. C. Kim" <mckim@online.ru> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mathematica 3.0 print problem Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:30:42 +0300 Organization: Bauman Moscow State Technical University Message-ID: <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings. Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages are overlapped on the printed notebooks: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: nextdict STACK: Except the error messages above, everything works fine. I printed notebooks to postscript files and checked out and found that every .ps files generated by print command of Mathematica includes following line in their codes: nextdict /_journalRecording false put When I manually remove this line from .ps files, they printed as normal. My system configuration is like this: Pentium 133MHz 64MB EDO RAM ASUS PCI mainboard Parallel port is configured as ECP HP LaserJet 6MP with 3MB RAM MGA Millennium 8MB Would somebody help me to correct this error? Thanks in advance. Myoung-Cheol Kim Moscow, Russia mckim@online.ru http://www.online.ru/people/mckim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: help:can't compile Samba.. Message-ID: <E50t3n.L50@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <5cj77f$i29$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5ckcvs$7i8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 09:30:58 GMT In article <5ckcvs$7i8@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, you wrote: > This are my flags > # This is for NEXTSTEP Release 3.0 and greater (including OPENSTEP > for Mach). > # contributed by brad@cac.washington.edu (Brad Greer) > # additional configuration by pmarcos@next.com (Paul Marcos) > # For compiling n-way fat executables, you should append the > appropriat -arch > # flags to the FLAGSM variable. Valid flags are: > # -arch m68k > # -arch i386 > # -arch hppa > # -arch sparc > # To compile 4-way fat, you would append > # -arch m68k -arch i386 -arch hppa -arch sparc > FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0 -arch m68k > LIBSM = > > And here is the output after the make commando > ....... > Compiling password.c > Compiling quotas.c > Compiling uid.c > Linking smbd > ld: Undefined symbols: > _waitpid > *** Exit 1 > Stop. > Thanks, > > -- > Anton Fasching PST Informatik > Tel :. 089/2178-2179 > http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~afaschin/ #define waitpid(pid, statp, opt) wait4((pid)==-1?0:(pid), \ statp, opt, (struct rusage *)0) Hope that helps. --- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: Stephen Peters <speters@cygnus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 10 Feb 1997 11:51:07 -0800 Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <qd914wigno.fsf@blues.cygnus.com> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I > looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. > Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls > into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with > that. > > Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see > 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! > That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take > somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. The Tk8.0 release seems to be focusing a bit more on providing the ability to use native buttons, menus, scrollbars, and font designations. I've been toying with the idea of trying to do a NeXTSTEP/OpenStep port, but it's still kind of low on my to-do list :-) -- Stephen L. Peters speters@cygnus.com PGP fingerprint: BFA4 D0CF 8925 08AE 0CA5 CCDD 343D 6AC6 "What, do you think soup is a biped?" -- Crow, MST3K
From: Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone successfully installed Xnext? Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:42:29 -0500 Organization: Northern Telecom Ltd., Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <iwklo8wz6be.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> References: <iwkwwsvny20.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5d50fn$qc9@crcnis3.unl.edu> <iwkzpxdagb5.fsf@bmerhe83.nortel.ca> <5dnmcn$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: % Christopher Rath <crath@nortel.ca> wrote: % >I was able to get the X server to start, but only by running it from a % >command line in a Terminal window. I.e., the Xnext front end is flawed, % >but the X distribution included with the package works just fine. % % Just wanted to add my own 2 cents. First of all, I hope we're % talking about the same "Xnext" - the shareware Xnext package by % Stefan Leuker, which can be retrieved from www.peanuts.org. % ... % To summarize: On black hardware, Xnext is a good choice. Well worth % the shareware fee. Yes, it was the Stefan's shareware package I referred to. Any assistance you could provide would be appreciated. I'll follow-up with you via email and then post the summary of our conversation to this group. Christopher === Christopher Rath ===== crath@bnr.ca ===== (613) 765-3141 === Northern Telecom Ltd. | Box 3511, Station `C' | ``Hydrogen is a colourless, odourless Ottawa, ON K1Y 4H7 | gas which, given enough time, turns FAX: (613) 763-4101 | into people.'' --- Henry Hiebert
From: philippe_Provost <phil@cnam.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Lotus Domino 4.5 with WEbObject ? Date: 10 Feb 1997 20:57:28 GMT Message-ID: <5do23o$hn6@pauli.cnam.fr> Greetings, Forgive me if that request is not sent to the appropriate group but i found no other to send it to. I attended the Lotus conference (LotusSphere97) and found that their Domino Server looks very appealing... native HTML embedded, NNTP server embedded, SMTP/Mime server embedded, Java curently being integrated.. and administration tools for managing these... I am a NeXT fellow from the beginning and I think that WOF is still unmatched however I really think that the combination of the two would be very very interesting. (of course Domino talks with a Notes server, to maintain all Notes services). NOTE that with MQSerie (from IBM), you can extract data from the Mainframe very securely and put those in a Notes server, which also means a Domino server (ie WWW). Does anybody tried to tie them altogether ? any more info available ? Thank you for your help Philippe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702101419.JAA19944@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a0885666e743f99974ddb1310fa759d8 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 09:19:13 -0500 Subject: Re: OmniWeb Doesn't Work Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: a0885666e743f99974ddb1310fa759d8 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Original Date: 9 Feb 97 22:15:24 -0500 > I am a new NeXT user, and I am trying to install OmniWeb. I am on a > NeXTstation Turbo Color running NeXTStep 3.0.5. I downloaded the > software, decompressed and untared it, but it does not work. I don't know what NeXTStep 3.0.5 is, but if it really is a version between 3.0 and 3.1 then OW may not run on it. You might try getting the FoundationUserPatch from NeXTanswers but I have no idea if it would work and therefore would not suggest/recommend that you do so. TjL
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Amelio 2/97 interview Message-ID: <8D1C300.09B800016F.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:48:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 Amelio: Trying to do what's right Apple chief talks candidly about his bonus, Steve Jobs, media pressure 02/09/97 San Francisco Examiner A year ago Wednesday, Gil Amelio became chairman of Apple Computer Inc. His assignment: turn around a company that was starved for cash, bloated with inventory, plagued by computer bugs and stuck with an aging operating system. Last week, the man who calls himself the Doctor, for his degree in physics and his penchant for turnarounds, gave a good news-bad news diagnosis to Apple shareholders in Cupertino. True, the company had sold its inventory and banked $1.8 billion in cash. A repair program had tackled quality problems, and in a bold move, Amelio had acquired Next Inc. from Apple co-founder Steve Jobs in a plan to make Next's powerful software the soul of an improved Macintosh. As part of the deal, Amelio made Jobs his special advisor. So why then, are Apple shares near a 10-year low on Wall Street? And why did Apple's board of directors award Amelio a $2 million bonus in November, when sales plunged so far in December that Apple is on the verge of 2,000 to 3,000 layoffs? Amelio spoke with The Examiner Friday about the slings and arrows of heading Silicon Valley's most closely-watched company. Q: In October Apple turned a profit. In November the board voted you a $2 million bonus. In December, sales went down. Did you deserve that reward? A: There are two components to my contract. One is based on merit and one is based on living to the next year. When the board hired me, they wanted to put some golden handcuffs on me so I would stay. The deal they made was for every year I clicked off, I earned a million-dollar bonus, not based on anything but being here. The other part was a merit bonus. There were specific tasks the company set. Measured on that basis we did what was expected of us. We brought down the headcount by about 3,500 people, more than 20 percent. We dropped the break even point from about $12 billion to about $9 billion. And we did that by September. The question the Monday morning quarterbacks ask is: Should we have done more? The answer is yes. But was there any way of knowing it at the time? I don't think so. A few breaks would have made a big difference. The quality problems on the PowerBooks cost us. We shipped about 100,000 fewer PowerBooks in the fall because of quality problems with the 5300 model. If the PowerBook had been a little healthier, if people had bought the normal number of computers at Christmas, you'd have had a totally different story. These two events are partly in our control but not totally. Had these two things gone our way they could have made a different scenario. Then you'd probably have been praising me for being a brilliant manager and I wouldn't be any more deserving than the converse. Q: What is it like running a company that gets as much scrutiny as Apple? A: If we were doing great and getting this kind of coverage we'd be thrilled. So it cuts both ways. My general experience with the press has been that when things are not going well the press reports it as worse than it is, and when things are going well the press reports it as better than it is. There's no question Apple has some real problems. But there's some real chicken little reporting going on out there. Q: Does the way you handle press make matters worse? For instance, when you mentioned the possibility of layoffs in an interview last week you had to realize we'd ask how many. A: Do I lie and tell you I'm not thinking about it? I'm better off being straightforward, and if there's something I'm not comfortable talking about to say "no comment." But I don't always follow my own rules. I can't tell you the number of people at this time. It's going to take us weeks to do this properly. You don't want to shoot first and ask questions later, especially when there are people involved. Q: In last week's management shuffle you put Avie Tevanian and Jon Rubinstein in charge of software and hardware development. Both worked for Steve Jobs at Next. How would you respond to people who think you've given Steve a chance to recreate Next inside Apple? A: That's not fair. Avie and Jon are two incredibly talented guys. When Avie came out of Carnegie Mellon (University ) nine years ago he was the most heavily recruited guy at the time. You had Steve Jobs and Bill Gates personally trying to woo him. He's your ultimate Heisman trophy winner for software. As far as Jon Rubinstein, I was incredibly impressed with him after I met him. Steve (Jobs) did recommend him, it's true. But the guy has had his own career in his own right. As you know, I've felt all along Apple needs to simplify their hardware models. We made a little progress on this last year, but not as much as I wanted to. Jon understood better than anyone else I had met precisely what I was talking about. So you might say this was the fine hand of Steve working in the background, but I really think that's a somewhat simplistic view. Q: Steve Jobs is charismatic, possibly brilliant. But people who've seen him at the corporate level say he's a bit arrogant and ruthless. Didn't you take a chance by bringing him into the executive council? A: This is not about my ego. I've always tried to do what I thought was right for the business and not worry so much about ego. Steve is a smart guy. He understands the soul of what Apple is about. He has an incredibly good understanding of the industry. I don't mind listening to his points of view. I don't always agree, but it turns out we agree on a lot of stuff, and so that's made our relationship easier to manage. Maybe if I disagreed with him more it would be more tempestuous. In the final analysis I make the decisions. You have to look at this and say, if you can get someone who's smart enough to help you, sometimes you put up with some of their idiocyncracies. Q: You have high hopes for the new laptop and desktop Macs due out soon. Can you be sure they won't be hurt by quality and backlog problems? A: On the quality issue we've done some new things. We have a quality assurance team that literally tries to break the product. By the time it survives the torture test it's probably good. The data show quality on the PowerBook 1400 is 10 times better than the 5300. So the process works. It's going to be more challenging to build all the PowerBooks the market is going to demand. I expect this will be an extraordinarily hot product and may exceed for a quarter or two what we can build. We're limited by our suppliers, especially for flat-panel screens. I think the new Montana series of desktops will be really successful, too. They will be out a month or so behind the PowerBooks. They should be easier to keep in volume production. Q: The new Rhapsody operating system, based on Next technology, will run on Intel chips. Are you contemplating moving Apple software into the Intel world? And if so, how do you handle that transition and the people who depend on the PowerPC chip? A: If you're in my shoes you want multiple sources of supply where your business is not held captive by one supplier or one technology. Today the Mac OS is not a portable operating system. It's woven very tightly into the hardware. But if you could get a next generation operating system that was portable, that would be the very smart thing to do. If I have a portable OS that could run on PowerPC, Pentium, MIPS, Alpha, all of those chips, that gives us alternatives we don't have. What if Motorola and IBM stopped making PowerPC chips? This gives me a contingency plan. Now does that mean we abandon the PowerPC chip? Heck no. We'd be foolish to. We have a lot of customers with PowerPC chips and we're going to support them. But I do look foward to the possibility, a year or two downstream, where I could come up with products based on different processors. Q: Any last words? A: We have very nervous customers out there because of saturation coverage we've had in the press. If I could speak to them directly I would say, be confident. We've got a lot of great capabilities and great plans. The middle part of a turnaround is messy. My standard joke is that there's certain things you don't like to see being made. One is sausage, another is legislation, and a third is turnarounds. It's very messy when you're in the middle of it, and if you chronicle every step, it's pretty frightening. Having been that road three or four times before, I feel pretty comfortable telling people there's a light at the end of that tunnel, but we've got miles to go before we can sleep. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: https browser? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5Ep8J.2CI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:33:55 GMT References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net>, Sven Crouse <svenifer@snet.net> wrote: >Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >Is there a browser for Next that does? > Yes. There's a bundle for OmniWeb that supports HTTPS. Look at OmniGroup's download site for OmniWeb and it should be at the bottom. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Gilles Champagne <gch@logibec.com> Subject: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> Sender: news@logibec.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Logibec Groupe Informatique Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 21:10:57 GMT Hi, I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are supported and where I could find drivers for those. Thanks in advance Gilles Champagne gch@logibec.com I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily shared by others.
From: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OmniWeb1.0 - No images? Message-ID: <1997Feb11.010551.2311@juncol.juniata.edu> Date: 11 Feb 97 01:05:51 -0500 Organization: Juniata College, Huntingdon, PA -- USA I have installed OmniWeb 1.0 on NS3.0 and it runs fine, except it does not display images. Any ideas? - please email. -Bill carlisle@juniata.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <1997Feb10.155259.373@tennis.opus1.com> From: dkoski@gorgatron.running-start.com (David Koski) Date: 10 Feb 97 15:52:59 -0700 References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> <5dliua$6tt$1@jake.esu.edu> Organization: Running Start, Inc. There have been a lot of good suggestions on how to make this work: - set the "transparency color" to something other than white. This is what shows through the transparent portions. - make sure you are compositing in "COPY" mode. - enable the alpha channel in the filter inspector. Some filters work on all channels all the time -- their inspector will disable the channel picker. - fill with CLEAR or COPY and a transparent color. - use the Color Correction or Transpose filter to alter the colors (remember to set the channels) Here are some that I did not see: - press ESC to see a granite pattern behind the image (to show alpha) - use the airbrush in DIN or DOUT mode (I think, I am not running NS right now so I can't check, but one of the modes lets you spray in alpha). You may want to decrease the opacity of the airbrush to soften the touch of this. Hope this helps, dk -- David Koski Running Start, Inc. OpenStep Development & Consulting dkoski@running-start.com
From: Frank Bandle <frank@mmc.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:23:15 +0000 Organization: More and More Communication GmbH Message-ID: <33004893.4BA8@mmc.de> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gilles Champagne wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo > with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are > supported and where I could find drivers for those. > > Thanks in advance > > Gilles Champagne > gch@logibec.com > I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily > shared by others. We are running 6 Zyxel Modem 1496E plus on our systems. Driver is NXFAX from black & white software. Works fine - Nor problems since 4 years. Frank -------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de -------------------------------------------------------------------- It never rains in California ! - This is not true ! MMC knows all about weather ! - This is true !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WetPaint question Message-ID: <5dliua$6tt$1@jake.esu.edu> From: katz@cs.millersv.edu (Beth Katz) Date: 9 Feb 1997 22:26:18 GMT References: <5dddfu$5jf@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Organization: East Stroudsburg University, Pennsylvania Guenther Bauer (h9101322@falbala.wu-wien.ac.at) wrote: > who is able to solve the following dilemma: > How is it possible to change one color of a picture (e.g. white) into > total transparency (100%) in a conveniant way with WetPaint? Of course > someone could delete single pixels or use the rubber tool, but is there a > way similar to the 'Transpose Filter', to just select the source color > and the destination color (in this case 100% transparency) and click on > 'Apply' and that's it? The 'Transpose Filter' didn't work for this > purpose, it can exchange colors but unfortunately not transparencies (at > least I haven't found a way to do so). I asked this same question a while back. This answer came from Steve Weintz. My apologies to him if I garble it. :: Use the Magic Wand setting in the Marquee inspector (the icon :: looks like a hand holding a wand next to a top hat). Click :: anywhere in the back-ground region. Once selected, press Delete :: or Backspace. :: :: WetPaint's default color for alpha representation, btw, is white; :: use Info -> Preferences to change the alpha representation to :: something else. You may have actually already done what you wanted :: and can't see it! Wassim M. Jabi also suggested: :: What I do is I use the paint bucket and set its mode to "CLEAR" :: This way I fill-in areas of varying color with "transparency" :: gradually. So, yes, WetPaint can do it. I was doing it to put pictures from clip art sources in a HyperSense document. Beth Katz katz@cs.millersv.edu http://cs.millersv.edu/~katz
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: https browser? Date: 11 Feb 1997 01:51:26 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5dp8du$eh6@plains.nodak.edu> References: <5dndes$qen@goofy.snet.net> <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5dnt7s$8e@highway.leidenuniv.nl>, <gj@rulil0.leidenuniv.nl> wrote: >svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >>Hi- I am using OmniWeb 2.1 which does not have offer secure services. >>Is there a browser for Next that does? > >Yes, it's called OmniWeb. >Drop in the bundle >ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Network/www/omniweb2bundles/htt >ps.0.5a.NIHS.bs.tar.gz, which is conveniently located outside the US so you >are *im*porting ammunition, which is allowed. There may be a patent snag, >though. Sigh. for use within the US you'll need to grab a few things. first, the OmniWeb API Headers from OmniGroup's Web page. Then you'll also need to get the RSA reference library and SSLeay. (SSLeay is a free implementation of the Netscape SSL standard.) then just hack the makefiles, and possibly paths to include files, and copmile. took me about 30 minutes to figure the whole thing out, compile, and test and install everything. Not very complex. andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.lang.python Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Date: 11 Feb 97 06:52:15 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Feb11065215@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> <SHESS.97Feb10082217@slave.one.net> <qd914wigno.fsf@blues.cygnus.com> In-reply-to: Stephen Peters's message of 10 Feb 1997 11:51:07 -0800 Greetings! shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > I've had it running under Xnext, but no NeXTSTEP, yet. Last time I > looked (tk4.1, I think), it looked like it was just too X11-based. > Essentially, you'd have to write an emulator translating X11 calls > into NeXTSTEP calls, and I really didn't want to get involved with > that. > > Besides, I'd much rather have native "widgets". I don't want to see > 12-pixel borders on my buttons, even if the script author wanted them! > That might be a more useful port, but it would probably also take > somewhat longer than an X11 emulation. The Tk8.0 release seems to be focusing a bit more on providing the ability to use native buttons, menus, scrollbars, and font designations. I've been toying with the idea of trying to do a NeXTSTEP/OpenStep port, but it's still kind of low on my to-do list :-) That sounds very cool -- would allow for Python-based GUI development on the NeXT! Keeping in mind I haven't delved into Tk much beyond Python's tkinter, how difficult would it be to emulate Tk's worldview in native NeXTSTEP? I don't mean at the X11 call level necessarily, but just below the Tk interface, with definiting buttons, packing them, etc... Hmm... Michael B. Johnson did some excellent work with Tcl/NeXTSTEP integration at the Media Lab, I guess I should look at that again. :-) (For the curious, it also involved RenderMan-Tcl bindings, URL: http://wave.www.media.mit.edu/people/wave/ ) More later, Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 Reactive Systems Houston, Texas 77006 jason@reactive.com (713) 942-7937 voice
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Newbie NeXTstep questions Message-ID: <E5CswJ.At@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:57:55 GMT In article <maxp-0702970913500001@blv-pm106-ip15.halcyon.com> maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) writes: > I've looked through the various NeXT FAQs, but still have some > questions. > > First, what is the difference between NeXTstep 3.3 and OpenStep > 4.1? On a NeXTstation, which is preferable? NS 3.3 is the most stable version and preferrable from a user perspective, IMHO. OS 4.1 is the bug fix release (I know NeXT doesn't like to hear that, but that's the way it looks to me) of the Mach implementation of OPENSTEP. The latter is preferable for developers who want to come up with sellable products. Amateurs can go with NS 3.3 as well. > I've seen some mention that 4.1 doesn't exist, but it's for sale > at Optimal Objects. Is 3.0 still usable? > Usable, yes. But I won't bother to revisit long gone bugs ;-) > Next, what's the difference between the User and Developer versions > of NeXTstep? Does the user version come with an Objective C > compiler and all the various usual UNIX stuff (grep, vi, etc)? > What would you guess? They went to many lenght to make the User version no fun for developers. > Last, is the 8/105 configuration just hopelessly inadequate, or > is it okay for doing mostly minor stuff? I'd probably just be > using it for PPP and reading e-mail from home. > Naye, thats just adequate for to get known to what you're gona miss. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 print problem Date: 11 Feb 1997 14:36:46 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dq05u$e86@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> In article <32FF8572.53A5@online.ru> "M. C. Kim" <mckim@online.ru> writes: > Greetings. > > Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium > PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages > are overlapped on the printed notebooks: I DO hope you've reported this bug to Wolfram at: support@wri.com In the past (for me), they've ALWAYS been very helpful in resolving any problems/difficulties. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: elitman@viaduct.com (Eric Litman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:27:36 GMT Organization: Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing anything for this environment? -- Eric A. Litman Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Bethesda, MD CEO http://www.viaduct.com (301) 493-0220 digital cellular (PCS) info: http://www.celltalk.com
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 11 Feb 1997 16:41:59 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> References: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> Eric Litman writes > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > anything for this environment? The only shipping OS/Win application is Create 4.0 from Stone Design. Remember, NeXT's user pricing for OPENSTEP was prohibitively high, so there was little point in converting commercial apps prior to the Apple announcement. But I expect the entrepreneurial spirit has been reawakened all over the NS community. 8^) -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: OmniWeb1.0 - No images? Message-ID: <E5G6LL.FJu@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:46:32 GMT References: <1997Feb11.010551.2311@juncol.juniata.edu> In comp.sys.next.software carlisle@juncol.juniata.edu wrote: > I have installed OmniWeb 1.0 on NS3.0 and it runs fine, except it does not > display images. Any ideas? - please email. OmniWeb 1.0 uses the image filtering services of the OmniImageFilters to handle all non-TIFF images. You just need to get the package of that name from the same place you got OmniWeb (or www.omnigroup.com) and install it. OmniWeb 2.0 has these services integrated into the main program and thus does not require you to install the additional package. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "I have never seen anything fill up a vacuum so fast and still suck." -- Rob Pike, commenting on The X Window System
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Apple Speech Recognition Message-ID: <8D1C300.09B800016E.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 97 12:48:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 PERSONAL TECHNOLOGY Mac News NEWS & NOTES Can we talk? Apple has made it a reality Software responds to spoken commands 02/09/97 Atlanta Journal and Constitution Maybe your spouse and children won't do what you say. But your Mac will --- if properly configured and equipped with the right software. That's right. Your Mac can close files or log onto the Internet if you tell it to do so. After years of false starts, Apple Computer has finally gotten speech recognition right. This technology, however, won't work on all Macs. It works only on Power Macs and AV Macs. So don't bother trying this with Classics, SEs, LCs or IIsis. And speech recognition technology won't work on Power Macs if they aren't configured right. Here's what you need. Start by making sure your Mac is running on system 7.5 or later. You also need at least 16 megabytes of RAM for speech recognition to work quickly and smoothly. And don't forget to hook up that little microphone that comes with most Macs ---it's your computer's ear. Next you'll need the latest version (1.5) of PlainTalk, Apple's speech recognition software. It should come with every new Mac. You can also find it on the Web at http: //www.speech.apple.com. PlainTalk has two parts: Speech recognition and text-to-speech. Make sure both parts are installed. You'll also need AppleScript, the programming software that comes with every Mac. PlainTalk uses AppleScript to remember and respond to your verbal commands. With this software in place, speech recognition is easy to configure. Open up the Speech control panel. MacUser recommends setting a specific key to hold down while talking to your Mac. Otherwise, it may confuse sounds around it as commands. ADD YOUR OWN SCRIPTS PlainTalk comes with a bunch of scripts that recognize basic commands such as those you'd use to open and close a file or window. But to make it really useful, you'll want to add your own. There are two ways to do this. Amateur programmers can write their own command scripts with AppleScript. Others can use a $49 program called EZ- Speak. It is a collection of more than 200 scripts that let you verbally control programs such as ClarisWorks, Excel, Word, PowerPoint and Navigator. A bit confused? That's OK. While easy, PlainTalk is a little tricky at first to set up. For more information, check out the March issue of MacUser. You'll find a good step-by-step guide to how to set up and use PlainTalk on Page 127. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94
From: gard@best.com (Ross Gard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 10:53:00 -0800 Organization: ComputerWare Distribution: inet Message-ID: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123>, spamwall~mouser@zercom.net (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) wrote: > In article <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com>, webmaster@q-net.pair.com wrote: > > > Please help, I am in desperate need of hardware and software for my NeXT > > Station. Bellow is the list of items I need... > > > > [list of desired stuff snipped} > > > > Thanks > > Tom Reminga > > E-Mail me at: > > mailto: webmaster@q-net.pair.com > > > > Q-Net Internet Services > > http://www.q-net.pair.com > > Check out Spherical Solutions at www.orb.com. They have cheap NeXT > hardware and components. > > Martin-Gilles L. I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. Ross (who has no connection with Spherical except as a satisfied customer) _________________________________________________________ Ross Gard gard@best.com Systems Engineer (408) 328-1072 ComputerWare - The MacSource http://www.macsource.com/ 605 West California Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94086-5020
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:11:07 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM drivers. I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive first with a special formatting utility? Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? Sincere thanks for any info. -Ron
From: haibach@unm.edu (Fred Haibach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: fax driver recommendations? Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:30:17 GMT Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque Message-ID: <5dqdrp$2vi@lynx.unm.edu> In NeXTanswer 1594; >>>> NEXTSTEP requires an additional fax driver specifically written for your fax modem. NeXT knows of two products that support a variety of common fax modems, including ZyXEL, SupraFAXmodem, Telebit, and Prometheus. The products are these: NXFax Supplier: Black & White Software, Inc. Phone: (802) 496-8500 Fax: (802) 496-5112 E-mail: nxfax@bandw.com DFax Supplier: Alembic Systems, Inc. Phone: 1-800-452-7608 (within the U.S. only) Fax: (303) 799-1435 E-mail: robbie@alembic.com <<<< but as far as I can tell these addresses are invalid. Does anyone have recommendations for fax drivers for OpenStep 4.x? FgH... -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Frederick G. Haibach | | Chemistry Graduate Student | | University of New Mexico | | >>>>> haibach@unm.edu ++++++ http://www.unm.edu/~haibach <<<<< | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dpkg for NEXTSTEP: Early testers ? Date: 11 Feb 1997 19:44:18 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <5dqi6i$3p1$1@news.belwue.de> I'm looking for a few volunteers to test my port of dpkg to NEXTSTEP. dpkg are the Debian package tools, a suite of programs for creating binary package files and installing and removing them on Unix systems. To Debian Linux, dpkg is what Installer.app is for NEXTSTEP applications: Installation and removal of packages can be done with a single command. But there's more to dpkg: From the users sight, dpkg maintains a database to track dependencies between packages and more: It warns you if you install a package that needs some other foundation first, updates can choose to keep configuration files, and remove now unnecessary files. From the developers sight, dpkg has support for automatically packaging distribution packages, preparing diffs against `mainstream' source distributions, therefore giving the experiences user facilities to update to newer versio ns with minimal hassle, and there's even more. While these points are essential for Linux users, I think they could also very much ease installation and maintenance of "Unix" programs for NEXTSTEP. I've therefore started to port dpkg to NEXTSTEP, and just got running a first version. It's near to untested, and definitely has some prominent bugs and problems, but maybe some brave people want to join me and test and develop this. Since it's a file maintenance tools, I have to warn anybody to use it as root. Running as normal user in a controlled manner shouldn't do any harm, but I won't warranty that yet. Nevertheless, if somebody wants to play with it, mail me, and I'll send you the stuff. Information about the Debian project is available from http://www.debian.org. Gregor Hoffleit -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 11 Feb 97 15:18:44 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.soft-sys.nextstep On Tue, Feb 11, 1997 1:53 PM, Ross Gard <mailto:gard@best.com> wrote: > I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and > bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot > imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with > NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in great shape and works wonderfully. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mathematica 3.0 help. Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:06:23 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dqn0f$3v9o@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <970205131747.4178AAFcF.magnus@darwin> <5dbn8e$mj5$1@joe.rice.edu> <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu In <970206111016.4961AAFcF.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg wrote: > Yes, I installed all the documentation on my laptop, and it sure beats > dragging the Mathematica book around (it weighs more than the laptop). > This is an extremely nice feature. There are a few places where the documentation isn't completed, e.g. mathlink for NS, but it's nonetheless much better than dragging the book around. Aside from still using the hardware-based licensing scheme, I agree that Mathematica 3.0 is a big improvement. I've been fairly impressed that a bunch of Mathlink code I wrote for MMA 2.2/ NS 3.3 worked fine on Mathematica 3.0 with OpenStep/Mach 4.1 with just a recompile. And though Wolfram was slow initially to respond to my difficulties with the hardware password on a portable computer (where the hardware configuration changes frequently), all is working well now. They issued me two different passwords for the two main configurations of the computer (docked and undocked). I was also told that it is possible to buy a "network" license for mathematica/NextStep, which doesn't involve the hardware password scheme. One rep told me that it was the same price as the "normal" version. If this is indeed the case, that seems like the way to go. Has anyone had experience with the "network" license version? -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: daydream and colorspace? Date: 11 Feb 1997 14:39:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5dqotn$nvn@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5dm82u$p75@eve.enteract.com> me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) wrote: >I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and >have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space >is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the >colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model >(for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being >represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. > >Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel >reports that this is 2.1.1) > >Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? Are you loading the color-correcting extension? I have had a multitude of problems with my Turbocolor and paint programs, the primary problem is how the machine renders transparent colors, quite frankly, it doesn't. Transparent colors show up on my system as a cyan color. Broken applications such as Fractal Painter, Sketch, and possibly other applications from Fractal Designs won't work... Photoshop is *supposed* to work, but unfortunately the cost of it (and non-returnability if opened) leaves me little incentive to give it a try. Other applications that insist on working in 16.7 million colors will also give problems. Other applications, such as Netscape (up to 3.01) worked just fine. The maddening thing is that the problem appears to be the same across these applications, hinting that one fix may correct all the color problems. An e-mail to QUIX gave the response that implied that M68k Daydream is more-or-less finished, and they plan no further developments, especially on the color-corrector :(. My many attempts at hacking this thing into working have all failed. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS rworne@primenet.com (CSUN mail is broken) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) Message-ID: <1997Feb11.142706.47358@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 11 Feb 97 14:27:06 MET References: <32EEA76D.41C67EA6@oar.net> <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> <1997Feb9.105307.1337@prim.demon.co.uk> dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) wrote: > In article <SHESS.97Jan29095304@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > > > >I've posted a copy of tcl7.6 modified to compile under NeXTSTEP3.3 to > >my home page. > > Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? > > Dave > If I properly recall, yes. Some company (of which I of course don't have the name anymore) once did something like TK (ObjectTK?) and sold it commercially. Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help Installing Software Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:15:53 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Hi again all. I got my NeXTStation to recognize an external SCSI drive. Now I want to install all the cool stuff from my NeXTStep CD-ROM that won't fit on my internal 105mb drive. How do I get the packages to install on the external drive? I remember being told to use a symbolic link so I tried the following: # ln /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary /NextLibrary # ln /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps When I execute these commands I get the response: /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary is a directory /Quantum270mb/NextApps is a directory Does this mean the command worked? If so, I am confused because the packages (Literature, Developer, etc) continue to try and install to / and I don't have the space. Help GREATLY appreciated.... John Byrne NeW to NeXTWorld
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From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 12 Feb 1997 02:45:28 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension > system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took > care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in > great shape and works wonderfully. I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly knowledgeable and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. gdm
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:46:12 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <on0Ho4600iV8E84OF7@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <32F416F1.6576@q-net.pair.com> <spamwall~mouser-1002971311010001@204.191.6.123> <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> In-Reply-To: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 11-Feb-97 Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware by Ross Gard@best.com > I spent an afternoon with Sam Goldberger, President of Spherical, and > bought a Turbo Color NeXTstation. He's a great guy to work with; I cannot > imagine a nicer way to buy a computer. Sam has years of experience with > NeXT equipment and clearly is in it for the love of the technology. I strongly second that recommendation. Sam does his best for his customers, and he has a thorough knowledge of black hardware. If you've got a problem, he's a great guy to talk to. Often, not only can he advise you on how to repair something without having to replace it entirely, he also has the connections to provide you with replacement parts (etc) at a good price. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Jpeg Viewer Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 23:09:23 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? Thanks, John
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing from NT to NeXTprinter? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 12 Feb 1997 06:30:51 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5dro2r$fcq@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hi, I have a PC running NT4.0 and OpenStep connected to my good old cube, and would like to use this old buddy as a print server. This works so far that I get the test page to print, as well as any one-page documents (I chose one of the Canon printers). The problem is that if I am printing any >1 page docs, only the last page (i.e., only the 1st printed page) comes out -- then, game over, NeXT stops due to a no further specified PS error. Someone got it working? Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 09:07:02 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <855738422.27441.0@mozart.onestep.co.uk> References: <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> In article <5dq7gn$epk@shelob.afs.com> Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) writes: > Eric Litman writes > > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > > anything for this environment? > > The only shipping OS/Win application is Create 4.0 from Stone Design. > Remember, NeXT's user pricing for OPENSTEP was prohibitively high, so > there was little point in converting commercial apps prior to the Apple > announcement. But I expect the entrepreneurial spirit has been reawakened > all over the NS community. 8^) > -- Umm, I should think that are a lot more apps shipping, though maybe Create is the only "shrinkwrap" app. Those interested in more specific areas such as Optical Mark Reading, GIS, Headhunters may like to know that our apps are running under OS/Mach and OS/Win today. I am sure there are more of us out there with OS/Win apps. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
From: Constantin Szallies <szallies@energotec.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: latex2html Converter for NS Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:12:13 GMT Organization: Tech Net GmbH Message-ID: <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> Does anyone have a working solution for converting latex documents to html using NS platforms. We tried a perl script and had some problems converting pictures and especially tables, which should be converted to images. Any hint is appreciated. Greetings, -- Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH szallies@energotec.de 49211-9144018
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Message-ID: <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <5dkrjv$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 18:54:19 GMT In <5dl8nd$jtv@usc.edu> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > > I just tried out Netscape and, by comparison, OmniWeb's features, design > and capabilities are far superior. In fact, they are so far above > Netscape 3.01 Gold or whatever it's called, that it makes it a bit > difficult to design web pages. In fact, most things about NextStep make Well, I have mixed feelings about Omniweb, besides the speed problem: * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to drag from the URL field. * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus swapping a lot after a few MB. * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. * No animated gifs. Some people regard this as an advantage :-) * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important nowadays and is not a lack of a small feature. For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. Sure , Omniweb looks nicer than Netscape. But: Isn't this a feature of Nextstep vs. X11 ? All Next-Apps look nicer :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Omniweb - why so slow ? Message-ID: <1997Feb7.104857.453@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: isaac@pobox.com Organization: Disorganization References: <1997Feb2.214704.1750@gamelan.shnet.org> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 10:48:57 GMT In <Pine.LNX.3.95.970204031036.19194A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > Try running Netscape on a 25 or 33 Mhz 486 some time. Just a note: My news ticker (www.mercury.com) gave me an information, that a company made a web browser for ancient 8086 machines. It's running under DOS in 640K. While I haven't seen the speed (and am not very interested in it either :-) I found it interesting that it is indeed possible to do this. This is a commercial product and I guess the speed must be acceptable somehow. I still doubt that only 500MHZ Pentium Pros can run a web browser efficiently .....
From: "Ben" <benjamin@p3.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: ppp NeXT 3.0... Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:03:53 GMT Organization: Surf Network Message-ID: <01bc190f$4aaa2640$5f0c43ce@ben.p3.net> Does anyone know of any ppp app for NeXTSTEP 3.0? Any help would be greatly appreceiated. Thanks, Benjamin Folk Jr. Surf Network, Inc. benjamin@p3.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer From: "Eric K. Ringger" <ringger@cs.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: TCL for NeXT (HELP) In-Reply-To: Your message of "11 Feb 1997 14:27:06 +0700." <1997Feb11.142706.47358@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Message-ID: <199702121643.LAA03436@slate.cs.rochester.edu> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Sender: ringger@cs.rochester.edu (Eric K. Ringger) Cc: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.software, comp.sys.next.programmer Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:43:30 -0500 frank@ifi.unibas.ch wrote: >dave@prim.demon.co.uk (Dave Griffiths) wrote: [...] >> Has anyone ported Tk to NeXTStep? [...] >If I properly recall, yes. Some company (of which I of course don't >have the name anymore) once did something like TK (ObjectTK?) and >sold it commercially. [...] I believe that you're thinking of Objective-TCL, from Pedja Bogdanovic at TipTop Software ( http://www.tiptop.com/ ). The package does not include Tk. [Follow-ups to comp.sys.next.software only.] --Eric --- Eric K. Ringger mailto:ringger@cs.rochester.edu Dept. of Computer Science Office: +1-716-275-0922; Lab: +1-716-275-1083 University of Rochester Fax: +1-716-461-2018 Rochester NY 14627-0226 http://www.cs.rochester.edu/u/ringger/ ||||| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |||||
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:08:20 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dt4f4$m08$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> Thomas Funke (thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM) wrote: : * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There : are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. I've seen this, but it tends to be the fault of a receiving script 90% of the time. : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to drag from : the URL field. I never understood why OW had the two edit boxes. I guess one is an OWMutableURL? ;) : * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is : very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. Hold down command and double click, and it'll open in Workspace instead. Very cool. : * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus swapping : a lot after a few MB. I haven't noticed this, but I also usually do the command click on larger files. : * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. Yeah, I'd like fly-over status someplace. : * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important nowadays and : is not a lack of a small feature. For example I cannot have internet banking : with Omniweb. JavaScript isn't a published standard. I'd like to seem some kind of Java support, but not just in OmniWeb. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help Installing Software Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:11:02 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dt4k6$m08$2@darla.visi.com> References: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> John B. Byrne (byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : # ln /Quantum270mb/NextLibrary /NextLibrary : # ln /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps ln -s /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps ... ln means "link". -s means "symbolic". without the -s, it tries to make a hard link, which can't be done on directories. man ln for details. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Jpeg Viewer Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:06:59 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dt4cj$j6$4@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com In <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> John B. Byrne wrote: > Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? > > Thanks, > > John > OmniImage.app from omni. http://www.omnigroup.com It does viewing/conversion for Tiff, Gif, Jpeg, Bmp, and SEVERAL others. It's a great utility, and its FREE. (Yet another reason to buy the folx at Omni a beer if you ever meet them in a pub). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: "Giraudo1" <giraudos@avon.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:18:25 GMT Organization: iiNet Technologies Message-ID: <01bc18e8$83845b60$281f3bcb@giraudos.avon.net.au> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cache-Post-Path: oak.avon.net.au!unknown@ppp09.avon.net.au I have installed OS 4.0 on a number of machines with EIDE hardware. I had problems until I placed the CD ROM second in line to the hard disk off the same EIDE output. After this it installed like a baby. I found it easier to install than Win95 and a lot easier that out UNIX based OS's. If you have problems email me, I will help if I can. simon g. giraudos@avon.net.au RM DAscenzo <rmd103@psu.edu> wrote in article <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu>... > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron >
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Firewalling & IP Masquerading in NeXTStep Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:45:46 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5dt34q$p3a@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> In article <5dj3is$aoa@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi folks. Does NeXTStep or a a kernel extension support firewalling > functions, in particular, IP masquerading? Let me guess: you have a service provider that only gives you 1 IP address and you have a subnet at home with a couple of machines? If that's the case, I have a few alternative suggestions: 1. Use IPRoute (http://www.mischler.com). This is a routing program for a PC which supports dynamic address translation. You'll need a separate 386-class machine with a network card. Disadvantages: Only one of your home machines can play NetQuake at a time :-( 2. I've ported the BSD /dev/tun tunnel interface to NEXTSTEP, as well as the ipip daemon which lets you encapsulate your home IP traffic in an IP-in-IP tunnel. This basically exposes your home subnet to the outside world. However, you need a similar setup at the other end of the tunnel (your office NeXT?) to do the decapsulation. You also need a bona-fide subnet address and and routing from your office NeXT, but if you know your IS people well, that might be manageable. I haven't tested it very thoroughly, or cleaned it up or released it, but if there's a demand for it, my arm can be twisted. (My housemate wouldn't mind being able to play NetQuake too :-) -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: "David Silviera" <david.silviera@asciient.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TESTERS NEEDED Helpful Internet program Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:29:14 GMT Organization: Ascii Entertainment Message-ID: <01bc191b$25e7f060$f11814cf@jane.crowley.asciient.com> We are ASCII Entertainment Software. We are evaluating a product called "The Internet Ninja" which is currently being distributed in Japan. This software allows users to save images from the Internet with no download time. To Save images, you simply click and drag the image you want on to the Internet Ninja program. The Internet Ninja will take the image straight out of your computer's cache memory and put a thumbnail image into your "book". I am in need of evaluation testers to help with consumer feedback. If you would like to participate in evaluating this product, please fill out this testing application : http://www.asciient.com/test_form.html Or, if you would like more information please visit our WWW site and browse around. http://wwwasciient.com/ninja.html Thank you for your time. David Silviera Creative Assistant David.Silviera@asciient.com
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:44:25 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5dt329$1av@gaea.titan.org> References: <5denv6$805@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <5dg5h5$pc2@shelob.afs.com> <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke (thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM) wrote: : Well, I have mixed feelings about Omniweb, besides the speed problem: Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I can help address some of these issues. : * There are bugs in 2.5b2, sometimes a POST operation does not work. There : are ObjC-error messages in Omniwebs console. Well, that IS why it is marked as a beta release. 2.1.5 is latest non-beta release. Unfortunately, while the bug in question was fixed the day after the release of beta 2, we still haven't released beta 3 because it also includes Kanji support, which isn't quite stable enough for a beta release yet. (However, it might be ready later this week.) : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to : drag from the URL field. You can type a relative URL in the top field (in exactly the form you'd use on the page), which (for me, at least) eliminates most of the need to edit a URL. However, we are looking at ways of improving this interface (in fact, we were just talking about it last night), since this is one of the most common complaints about our UI. : * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, : which is very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the : file is gone. OmniWeb doesn't distinguish between what protocol was used to retrieve a file (after all, that was one of the design goals of the web: to be protocol independent, so operations work the same whether you use http or ftp or gopher or a local file). To download a file (ftp or http or whatever), command-click on it rather than just clicking. This will save the file in your download directory, and select that file in the Workspace (unopened). And it won't remove the file later (unlike with files being presented for viewing by normal clicking). : * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus : swapping a lot after a few MB. If you download a file (by command-clicking on it), OmniWeb doesn't do this. Again, OmniWeb doesn't distinguish between ftp and http. If you just click on an ftp file, it has to read it into memory to decide whether it looks like something it can present directly in the browser, or will have to save off to the Workspace to present. : * You have to right-click to see the target of a reference. True. We'll probably add a preference for letting you see the target by just holding your mouse over a link. (Personally, I find that really annoyingly flashy as I move my mouse about.) : * No animated gifs. Some people regard this as an advantage :-) Mostly written, but not yet completed because we considered performance and Java to be higher priority, and given our limited resources we have to prioritize our development. OmniWeb was written in about 2 man-years--but despite this relatively small development cost (compared to comparable browsers) has yet to turn a profit, due to our market size. : * No Java, no JavaScript. This becomes more and more important : nowadays and is not a lack of a small feature. Ah yes, Java. We've actually wrote a lot of this last summer (and were able to run simple applets like TumblingDuke, TicTacToe, and the graphics test), but we've been unable to dedicate resources to completing it given the size of our current market. (We are still working on it in our meager spare time, and looking for corporate sponsors to enable us to dedicate resources to it.) Rhapsody's market may change all that, but on the other hand with Rhapsody we get direct competition with Netscape and Internet Explorer. JavaScript is another matter. While we did some work on it about a year ago, it unfortunately bears no resemblance (other than the name) to Java: it has no complete specification, it has no coherent design, and it's really hard to duplicate its functionality in another browser since much of it is based on letting script writers manipulate Netscape's innards (which look rather different from ours, meaning we have to start emulating a lot of those innards to let those scripts operate). I'm rather disappointed that Sun let Netscape name that language "JavaScript", since really it's a "NetscapeScript" language. : For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. I've done internet banking with OmniWeb at several banks (using just an HTTPS extension). : Sure , Omniweb looks nicer than Netscape. But: Isn't this a feature of : Nextstep vs. X11 ? All Next-Apps look nicer :-) Umm, no, actually. Notably, Netscape looks nicer than the original WorldWideWeb.app. -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: 12 Feb 1997 10:31:39 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dt2ab$hi@mpaque.mpaque> References: <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> In article <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) writes: > I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent > found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external > parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM > drivers. > > I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... > > -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. Something like that. You'll need the set of NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP for Intel floppies distributed with the NeXTSTEP CD-ROM. These include a boot floppy with NeXT's booter and kernel, and one or more disks of device drivers (NeXTSTEP 3.2 and later). The drivers are NeXT specific. DOS drivers won't work. > What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? > Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive > first with a special formatting utility? You would boot with the NeXT boot floppy, and select a language to use for the installation (English, French, Spanish, etc...). Once the booter and kernel image are loaded, you'll be prompted to put in the device driver floppy. The software will search the floppy for relevent disk device drivers, and prompt you to select the appropriate device drivers for your CD-ROM and hard disk (for example, "EIDE", "Adaptec 154x SCSI", etc.) Once the drivers are loaded from floppy, the OS will start up and give you an ASCII menu of installation options. You can chose to format the whole disk for NeXTSTEP, put NeXTSTEP on an existing partition, repartition the disk, or quit the installation. The installation process will take care of the details of formatting the selected disk or partition with a Unix Fast FileSystem (FFS), and will perform a minimal installation. Once the minimal installation is done, you'll be prompted to remove the floppies and reboot the machine. The machine will normally restart with NeXTSTEP, and you'll use the NeXT GUI to complete informing the OS of your hardware settings and preferences (the Configure app is run automatically) and selecting installation options (for example, extra languages, and optional software packages such as on-line documentation, Websters Dictionary, etc.) > Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? It should all be there in the CD package. If you need additional device drivers, take a look at NeXTAnswers at http://www.next.com/. There are drivers there, along with disk image files and a DOS utility you can use to build NEXTSTEP device driver floppies from the disk image files. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: Dion Dock <dion_dock@mentorg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Plans Ad War Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:13:23 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Message-ID: <33024083.29A8@mentorg.com> References: <8D18282.09B800014E.uuout@moondog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Said a headline on one ad touting multimedia abilities of a Mcintosh: 10 years and people still can't spell Macintosh. -dion
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Java support Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:36:02 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any java support for the NeXT machines?
From: Dion Dock <dion_dock@mentorg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: is Daydream alive? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:10:32 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Message-ID: <33026A08.64B1@mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the Daydream box still being sold? thanks, -dion
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - but how to keep the low life happy? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 12 Feb 97 17:29:18 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> References: <1997Feb10.185419.1849@gamelan.shnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:54 PM, Thomas Funke <mailto:thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: > * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which is > very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. I noticed this as well. Here's what worked for me. I was DLing a long file, moved over to the couch and fell asleep. I woke up 6 hours later and looked at the Cube. The PPP connection had gone down and the file was saved in /private/tmp rather than in /tmp/omniweb. I have no idea how this happened but it didn't disappear on me. The answer is obviously, only ftp when you are very sleepy. > > * When ftp-ing a file omniweb seems to keep this file in memory thus > swapping > a lot after a few MB. Yep, and if youdon't have a lot of open space you can get error messages. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Many cuts above - OmniWeb Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:13:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5dtmad$itt@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> In article <AF27AE72-1C69DE@207.147.62.170> "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > On Mon, Feb 10, 1997 1:54 PM, Thomas Funke > <mailto:thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: > > * When ftp-ing a tar.gz file, Omniweb tries to open it after that, which > is > > very annoying. And: if you quit Omniweb after a ftp, the file is gone. CMD(Alt)-Click the download link, and it will download only. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 22:45:10 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <33028E46.3AFC@ibm.net> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> <33004893.4BA8@mmc.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Frank Bandle wrote: > > Gilles Champagne wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm planning on buying a faxmodem for my NextStation Turbo > > with NeXTStep 3.3 and I'd like to know what models currently are > > supported and where I could find drivers for those. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Gilles Champagne > > gch@logibec.com > > I come up with my own opinions and they are not necessarily > > shared by others. > > We are running 6 Zyxel Modem 1496E plus on our systems. > Driver is NXFAX from black & white software. > > Works fine - Nor problems since 4 years. > > Frank > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Frank Bandle EMail: fbandle@mmc.de > More and More Communication GmbH Fon : 089 - 96276 - 0 > Po.Box 1333 Fax : 089 - 96276 - 151 > 85731 Ismaning / Munich W3 : http://www.mmc.de > -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, I must agree NXFax is an extrordinarily reliable piece of software. We use our black stations as fax machines all day every day and have yet to have a problem with the product. Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Jpeg Viewer Date: 13 Feb 1997 09:20:58 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5dumdq$9qu@supernews.login.net> References: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <byrnejbb-1102972309230001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> On 02/11/97, John B. Byrne wrote: > Can someone recommend a Jpeg viewer? > > Thanks, > > John > --------------------------------------------------------- These are available from ftp sites. FastView.app (A high speed JPEG viewer by David Koshi.) ImageViewer.app (by Lennart Lövstrand.) ToyViewer.app (by Takeshi Ogihara) Zoom.app (An application for scalling images by Sven Lehmann.) Best of all, they are FREE shareware and they work wonderfully on NEXTSTEP. Cheers, -André ------------------------------------------------------------
From: anch@logiball.de (Andreas Christiani) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Arbitary precision arithmetic? Date: 10 Feb 1997 10:02:24 GMT Organization: Knipp Medien und Kommunikation, Dortmund, Germany Message-ID: <5dmrng$5i5$1@news.knipp.de> References: <1997Feb9.120321.1665@prim.demon.co.uk> Dave Griffiths <dave@prim.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, does anyone know of a simple maths library that will let you do >arbitary precision integer arithmetic from C/Obj-C on NeXTStep? I found >something called "pari" but it has a Sun3 assembler file that doesn't >compile. > >Thanks, > >Dave > Take a look at GNU MP (abbreviated gmp). A.C. --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ LogiBall gGmbH * Innovationszentrum Herne * Westring 303 * 44629 Herne Andreas Christiani * christiani@logiball.de * http://www.logiball.de Tel.: 02323 / 925 577 * Fax : 02323 / 925 551 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com (Wilhelm Pitzeier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Which X server? Date: 13 Feb 1997 12:32:26 GMT Organization: EUnet EDV DienstleistungsgesmbH, Wien Message-ID: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Cc: cubx@intuisys.com,co-Xist_info@pencom.com,doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu,leuker@POOL.informatik.rwth-aachen.de,bngover@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca,jklein@freon.artificial.com,crath@bnr.ca,rdieter@math.unl.edu,neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM Maybe this has been asked many times before: Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). What are their specific pros and cons? Please email any experiences to me, I will post a summary of all replies. Willi -- *************** Dipl.-Ing. Wilhelm Pitzeier **************** ***** AAA+ Software Forschungs- und Entwicklungs-GmbH ****** *************** A-1010 Rotenturmstrasse 22 ***************** ******** E-Mail: willi@aaa-plus.com (NEXT/MIME/ISO) ******** * ISDN Voice: (+43 1) 5336665/32 **** Fax: (+43 1) 5336890 * * Private: A-1060 Stiegengasse 9/14 * Tel. (+43 1) 5813472 * ************************************************************
From: Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Samba compilation failed... Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 10:56:33 -0500 Organization: Freshman, CIT Undeclared, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <In0nal200YUx06Okk0@andrew.cmu.edu> I am trying to setup Samba on my NeXTstation running NeXTstep 3.3, I edited the Makefile and specified the "FLAGSM = -DNEXT3_0" flag, then I did a `make`, I got tons of complains about server.c.... It compiled perfectly on my NetBSD box tho. Anybody knows what has to be done in order to get it to compile on NeXT? /ayn -- Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> | Carnegie Mellon University http://andrew.Ngbert.org | ECE major // 4-yr BS/MS campus ph: 412/862-2836 | voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 | talk: finger ayn@andrew.Ngbert.org * NGBERT.ORG! * | for online status http://www.Ngbert.org | finger ayn@CMU.EDU for more info... --------------------------X------------------------------------- NetBSD NeXT FreeBSD Linux Be Solaris !windoze
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 13 Feb 1997 16:30:41 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Wilhelm Pitzeier <willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com> wrote: : Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? : (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) : There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well : as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). IMHO, CubX is the best. It's unbelievably fast. If you want developer and motif, though, you'll pay for it. Unfortunately, it doesn't support the ND board. *sigh* -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: POP3 email question Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 16:41:09 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Message-ID: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my NeXTstation? I was searching for the answers but had no luck finding the answer. Ant help would be nice. Thank you for you time. joel@quicklink.com
From: Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:38:06 -0500 Organization: Freshman, CIT Undeclared, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn0rii200YUq0W1EY0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> In-Reply-To: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 13-Feb-97 POP3 email question Joel Kelmenson@quicklink (222*) > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? couldn't u compile PINE on ur NeXT and run the popd that comes with it? I never tried... /ayn -- Andrew Y Ng <ayn@CMU.EDU> | Carnegie Mellon University http://andrew.Ngbert.org | ECE major // 4-yr BS/MS campus ph: 412/862-2836 | voice mail: 412/268-6700 x30027 | talk: finger ayn@andrew.Ngbert.org * NGBERT.ORG! * | for online status http://www.Ngbert.org | finger ayn@CMU.EDU for more info... --------------------------X------------------------------------- NetBSD NeXT FreeBSD Linux Be Solaris !windoze
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Good GUI ftp client? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 15:57:48 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... Thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: 13 Feb 1997 18:15:06 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5dvlna$mcn@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Cc: joel@quicklink.com In <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Joel Kelmenson wrote: > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? > > I was searching for the answers but had no luck finding the answer. > > Ant help would be nice. > > Thank you for you time. I'm not totally sure, but I believe that PopOver.app has the ability to be a pop server as well as a client. -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: 13 Feb 1997 14:25:29 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII How does someone contact Mr Goldberger ? In article <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu says... > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: >> I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension >> system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took >> care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in >> great shape and works wonderfully. > >I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly knowledgeable >and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've >had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. > >gdm
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:13:02 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5e03le$s5q@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at > Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... I've never tried Yftp, but GatorFTP works fine for me... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Sam is Awesome (Was: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 13 Feb 1997 19:41:03 GMT Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Bedford MA, USA Sender: jmosher@think.com Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dvqof$821@bone.think.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I also must agree: I've purchased hardware from Sam as well and have always had great experiences, both locally in the Bay Area and when I've had stuff shipped after leaving there. He's got some great NeXT stories! smg@orb.com -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex2html Converter for NS Date: 13 Feb 1997 08:46:44 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5dukdk$mo@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.04 / Feb 10, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Constantin Szallies wrote in <5dsfjd$1l92@ddfservb.technet.net> on 1997-02-12 14:12:13 +0100: > Does anyone have a working solution for converting latex documents > to html using NS platforms. We tried a perl script and had some > problems converting pictures and especially tables, which should > be converted to images. Try latex2html translator from Nikos Drakos. ftp.dante.de/tex-archive/support/latex2html or something like that. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** 72119 Ammerbuch/Germany ** Tel. +7073 - 5118 e-mail: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail and Mime welcome PGP-Key is available (please request it, so mail exchange will be safe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Message-ID: <E5K8wu.4rB@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:26:54 GMT References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> In comp.sys.next.software David Herren wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple at > Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from the group... The latest version of Yftp.app is pretty good. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Apple Plans Ad War Date: 12 Feb 97 20:57:23 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF27DF36-295B4@207.147.52.36> References: <33024083.29A8@mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Feb 12, 1997 5:13 PM, Dion Dock <mailto:dion_dock@mentorg.com> wrote: > 10 years and people still can't spell Macintosh. 13 years and people still don't remember January 24, 1984. "On January 24, Apple Computer will introduce Macintosh and you'll see why 1984 won't be like '1984'." Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 14 Feb 1997 01:24:50 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) wrote: > Is there a decent GUI ftp client available? I've seen a couple > at Peanuts but haven't downloaded pending recommendations from > the group... I think the best one is Netsurfer's... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Omniweb: why the caching to VM? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 13 Feb 1997 22:15:04 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> I can put up with the rendering speed of OmniWeb. What I'd like to know is why doesn't OmniWeb cache to disk instead of to virtual memory? Every time I unhide OmniWeb, my poor system has to page through many megabytes of images, etc. My swapfile has often grown to fill my root partition and crash my system. This is a bit excessive: javanica[21]% ps auxwww | grep Omni croehrig 312 0.2 0.0 244M 0K ? SW 1:42 OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb ... ^^^^^ -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702131725.AA10240@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 97 18:25:34 +0100 Subject: Rhapsody interaction with NeXT- and Openstep (or: Will Rhapsody (AppleStep) have NetInfo)? Hi there folks, there are tons of question which arise about the new "AppleStep" (Rhapsody), but the most immanent one I have is: Will Steve build NeXT inside of Apple? Just kidding..... 8-) (all of us know he actually does so! (Whoooooow!!!! 8-))))) What I really need to know is: ** question version 0.8 (alpha) ** Can I use a Rhapsody 500Mhz AppleMac as Fileserver for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep clients of all colors (black NeXThardware, Sun Sparc 20s, Intel Boxes w/ Openstep)? or to put it the other way around: ** question version 0.9 (beta) ** Can a NeXT/NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system based on the above mentioned hardware serve a Rhapsody client?? But maybe the best way to ask this question is: ** final coding v1.0 (shipping now!) ** Will "AppleStep" (Rhapsody) feature NetInfo??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
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From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody on Intel clarification Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 07:24:03 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg32905.thr-1e9c77.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg32905.thr-1e9c77.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> This was in recently posted in the Evangelist: The following clarification has been blurted by: The Digital Guy <<evagelist@apple.com> After chatting with various sources in an attempt to avoid making things even muddier, I'm going to explain why there's so much confusion surrounding the "NeXT" Mac OS, and why Rhapsody isn't going to run on Intel chips...but the Mac OS is. That first paragraph pretty much illustrates why there's so much confusion. You see, "Rhapsody" isn't just Mac OS "8" (or whatever it winds up being called), it's the new OS consisting of the OpenStep API's with a new, advanced Mac interface running on top of the Mach microkernal (referred to as the "yellow" box) AND a component to insure backward compatibility with system 7.x applications (the "blue" box). Thus the code name "Rhapsody" actually refers to the bundling of two seperate technologies, and not just the new Mac OS. As confirmed by Avadis Tevanian and Jim Gable, (see <<http://www.macweek.com/mw_1106/nw_conference.html>), the yellow box WILL run on intel chips. Essentially, poor souls who made the mistake of buying a Pentium based system will be able to run the SAME OS as a PowerPC Macintosh. The only difference is that the blue box won't be there, so they won't be able to run 7.x Mac applications. The decision makes sense when you realize that making 7.x apps run on Intel would be a major engineering effort for a group of people unlikely to have an older software investment to protect. Intel users WILL be able to run Mac applications ported to the new OS and recompiled to run on the Intel based Mac OS. Another way of looking at it from the Intel NeXT OS side of things is that they're going to upgrade their NeXT OS. Their existing investment in OpenStep programming and applications is preserved. To sum up: - The Mac OS WILL run on Intel chips. - Applications written for the new Mac OS will run on Intel based systems with a simple recompile. - 7.x applications won't run on the Mac OS for Intel chips. - 7.x applications WILL run under the new Mac OS for Power PC chips, code named Rhapsody. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: maxp@halcyon.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NEXTSTEP 3.0 question Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 09:08:45 -0800 Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <maxp-1402970908450001@blv-pm103-ip8.halcyon.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105 with 3.0 installed, and was attempting to copy (via floppy) an app that I had FTPd on my Mac. The archive was too big to fit on a floppy, so I decompressed it and copied it over file-by-file. I ended up with a directory called Opener.app. I changed the Execute flag, which seemed to turn it into a bona fide application, but it wouldn't launch. Did I do something wrong, or does this app (Opener 3.3) not work with 3.0? BTW, WTB: NEXTSTEP 3.3 User or Developer (black) ... -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Rhapsody User Interface Date: 14 Feb 1997 13:32:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm240-02.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5e1ph2$cnr$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, has anyone heard any info if there will be an option in Rhapsody to choose a GUI closer to NeXTstep rather than to Mac UI? You know something like the look of Solaris Openstep or so... No offense, I just don't like the Mac feel and look when compared to NeXTstep's. While it might seem not important to some people, it actually might (most likely will) affect my decision whether to switch to Rhapsody. Apple or NeXT, could you comment if you caught this question? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: bob_oconnor@csgi.com (Bob O'Connor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: What's the latest Neuron Fax software? Date: 14 Feb 1997 20:46:31 GMT Organization: Just BOB Macintosh and NeXT Consulting Message-ID: <5e2iv7$l5s$1@news1.dn.net> Xdisclaimer: No attempt was made to authenticate the sender's name. I have a Neuron modem, version 2.0 of their software and Black hardware. I can succesfully connect to a brother Fax machine but not an HP. Is there updated software that would work? The Neuron is just a repackaged Zyxel. Is there fax software for the Zyxel which might work? Thaks in advance. ----------------------------------------- Bob O'Connor bob_oconnor@csgi.com
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Question on NS 3.3 User Date: 14 Feb 1997 17:26:54 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> Cc: lynn_holland@stratus.com In <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> "Lynn_Holland" wrote: % Does the release of NS 3.3 user for Intel also support Next Black Hardware % on the same media? Thanks. % % Lynn Holland % Yes ! ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
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From: gard@best.com (Ross Gard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: I Need some NeXT Hardware Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:00:17 -0800 Organization: ComputerWare Distribution: inet Message-ID: <gard-1402971000170001@NNTP.best.com> References: <gard-1102971053000001@NNTP.best.com> <AF263E58-143197@207.147.52.13> <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5dv88p$cl7$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) wrote: > How does someone contact Mr Goldberger ? > > > In article <5dras8$du0@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu says... > > > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: > >> I've got to add my two cents worth here too. I bought a Turbo Dimension > >> system from Sam and, other than a couple of shipping snafus which he took > >> care of promptly, everything went well. I love the system and it is in > >> great shape and works wonderfully. > > > >I've never bought anything from Mr. Goldberger, but he's clearly > knowledgeable > >and in it for love of the technology, based on several phone calls we've > >had. I'd definitely feel comfortable buying hardware from him. > > > >gdm Sam Goldberger Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919 voice 415-381-9556 fax smg@orb.com http://www.orb.com/ For any of you Silicon Valley types, it makes for a lovely drive. You would definitely need to call ahead and make an appointment, however. Ross _________________________________________________________ Ross Gard gard@best.com Systems Engineer (408) 328-1072 ComputerWare - The MacSource http://www.macsource.com/ 605 West California Avenue, Sunnyvale, CA 94086-5020
From: Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Question on NS 3.3 User Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 23:54:38 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois Message-ID: <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry this has nothing to do with the subject, am having trouble with my new reader. I have NS 3.3 User for Intel and need a good terminal application to dial into my isp sot that I can download some NeXT stuff. Does anyone have a suggestion? thanks... Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: nightmare of pixelization (Many cuts above - but how to keep...) Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:14:25 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Message-ID: <5e2kjh$qj9@peng.ping.at> Matthew N. Reichman wrote: > I have still to figure out a sure-fire way of handling graphics (I've got > TIFFany, GifOmatic, Giftools, Pixel Magician, and more) and I find it a > pain in the ass converting the beautiful images those programs allow me > to make into something even close under Netscape/MSIE (not to mention all > the other browsers which I have yet to see). > It's a nightmare of pixelization, weird color mapping, and gamma viruses! You might want to take a look at LatinByrd: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/stefan/LatinByrd.BetaIV.NIS.tar.gz (502997 bytes) It's still in beta but is reported to be very stable, so I finally dare to semi-officially announce it. Converting TIFF/EPS images to GIF/JPEG isn't LatinByrd's main raison d'etre, but I think it does quite a good job on that as well. LatinByrd displays your TIFF or EPS image in synchronized GIF/JPEG views, and you can change options like Gamma, Netscape colormap, Floyd-Steinberg error distribution, and JPEG quality on the fly. You can view your images in front of a selectable background wallpaper. And LatinByrd can do one thing that - as far as I know - no other tool is capable of: rendering partial transparency over a background color of your choice - including Gamma and all! Note: beware that LatinByrd will be a commercial product. - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 22:57:47 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> On 13 Feb 1997, David Young wrote: > Wilhelm Pitzeier <willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com> wrote: > : Which is the best X server for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? > : (I'm using OS4.1/Mach/Intel) > > : There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well > : as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). > > IMHO, CubX is the best. It's unbelievably fast. > If you want developer and motif, though, you'll pay for it. > > Unfortunately, it doesn't support the ND board. *sigh* > CubX developer is not compatible with Openstep Developer, and unbeleivably is not the right word describing CubX, its speed is ok but not unbelievably. I think the development package is not worth the additional money since there are no X development tools and the socalled online description consists only of poorly integrated man pages in a bookshelf. If you compile apps on your own they grow five times the size the same application in a linux environment. The development kit makes you feel as if you were ripped and the other included apps are not worth mentioning. --- Konstanin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Omniweb: why the caching to VM? (Re: Omniweb - why so slow ?) Date: 14 Feb 1997 22:36:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5e2pcs$3fd@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <SHESS.97Feb7104201@howard.one.net> <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Cc: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca In <5e03p8$i10@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Chris Roehrig wrote: > > I can put up with the rendering speed of OmniWeb. What I'd like to know is > why doesn't OmniWeb cache to disk instead of to virtual memory? Every time I > unhide OmniWeb, my poor system has to page through many megabytes of images, > etc. My swapfile has often grown to fill my root partition and crash my > system. This is a bit excessive: > > javanica[21]% ps auxwww | grep Omni > croehrig 312 0.2 0.0 244M 0K ? SW 1:42 OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb ... > ^^^^^ > > Installing a local squid cache and set all hold times in the OmniWeb preferences to 0 seems to help a bit (but not that much :(). Maybe Omni should put a disk based cache into OW right away. Only fetch the needed stuff and free (in memory) the rest immediately. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.net-analysis,comp.dcom.net-management,comp.os.netware.connectivity,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.netware.security,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.networks.noctools.bugs,comp.networks.noctools.d,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:53:53 GMT Control: cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Sender: cruel@xs4all.nl (Bart) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702142035.PAA02255@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 97 15:34:53 -0500 Subject: Mail.app: adding Private Group Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary I just found this out, maybe y'all knew it already. Dontcha hate adding members to a Private Group in Mail.app? Add a name. Click add. Add a name, Click add. Add a name, (you get the idea). Of course you could open the ~/.NeXT/.mailalias file and add them by hand that way, but you had to make sure that Mail.app wasn't running or they might be overwritten when it quit..... Well, after 5 years of using Mail.app, it dawned on me: put all the names in at once, separated by commas, and click on "add" just once. DUH It works fine. At first all the names are in one long row, but when you restart Mail.app they are all one-per-column (cool!). To think of the number of times done this would have been useful to know.... TjL
From: "Mark A. Doucet" <madoucet@dominion-tech.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Windows NT output to NeXT Printers Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:28:11 GMT Organization: Dominion Communications, LLC Message-ID: <01bc1aad$85ee90c0$3bc960ce@blessing> I have a TCP/IP lan connection to my NeXT box and I would like to print from a WindowsNT machine to my NeXT laser and color printer. Does anyone know how this can be done? Thanks Mark A. Doucet madoucet@dominion-tech.com
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep PPP Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 19:25:50 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <3304BC3E.1BC4@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got OpenStep 4.1 Mach and see that it has pppd and chat. I need to set this up and would like to know if there is guide I can use. Thanks, Jason
From: "Steve Ramsour" <gsramsour@ns.aecnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: wtb: Adobe Illustrator for Nextstep Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 18:34:37 +0000 Organization: SignDesign Message-ID: <gsramsour-1402971834370001@accs-as16-dp11.snfc.grid.net> would like to purchase Illustrator for Nexstep (motorola) -Stve Ramsour gsramsour@macconnect.com
From: Peter Truskier <truskier@star-graphics.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: POP3 email question Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 21:35:18 -0800 Organization: STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc. Message-ID: <33054B16.7832@star-graphics.com> References: <5dvg9e$55l@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Joel Kelmenson <joel@quicklink.com> Joel Kelmenson wrote: > > How can I get a POP3 email client, like Eudora, to get mail from my > NeXTstation? SNIP I've been using NSPopper for about 6 or 7 months on a NeXTStation Color, and it has not failed once. Iregularly use Eudora, Claris E-mailer, Netscape (Mac), Netscape (Windows), and FirstClass through a Nasta gateway as clients, all without any real problems. You can find it at: http://info-sys.home.vix.com/people/lennart/Software.html About half way down the page are links to the binary (quad fat),source, etc. Good luck, Peter Truskier STAR Graphic Arts Co., Inc. Brisbane, CA 94005
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: RE. Info on NeXTIME multimedia framework Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:56:12 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-1402971855320001@adnline240101.adnc.com> I would like to know what this software is all about. Please let me know. Thanks in advance...
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: FaxModem supported on NeXTStation with Nextstep 3.3 Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:25:26 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5e3hc6$mpk@news2.cais.com> References: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> In-Reply-To: <32FF8EE1.6744@logibec.com> One of the best faxmodems on the market is the Diamond SupraSonic 336V+. It works great with B&W NXFax. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 15 Feb 1997 18:34:16 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote: > I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only > solution is an external TA. But ISDN cards such as the ZyXEL cards that don't need special drivers but work with the AT command set just like an external TA on a serial port will work of course. Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 15 Feb 1997 20:05:13 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config than the one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, could you please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. Randy Jackson -- Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/
From: Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: modem terminal application Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:25:27 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois Message-ID: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to the internet. Any suggestions???? thanks Brandon Cue bcue@uiuc.edu
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <413853649874@digifix.com> Date: 16 Feb 1997 02:23:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 3D? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:21:55 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33067D48.7505@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ct27t$9ie@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jason Wagner <jason@primenet.com> Jason Wagner wrote: > > I've been seeing references to the "Fatted Calf" CD with "Renderman" > files.... then I read in teh FAQ that NEXTSTEP comes with a "3D toolkit." > Can anyone tell me more about the graphics and animation type software > that comes with NEXTSTEP? How well do NeXT machines run this software?? Check out following web site and solidThingking: http://www.gestel.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Java support Message-ID: <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bward@stevens-tech.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 15:36:01 GMT In <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Brian Ward wrote: > Is there any java support for the NeXT machines? > I have used guavac on black Nexts successfully. Still some bugs in the compiler but it is improving rapidly. I think kaffe - the java VM - should run on Next either. Still no AWT in sight so you have to rely on another machine to run your applets. : * You cannot edit the URL after a page is shown. You first have to > : drag from the URL field. > > You can type a relative URL in the top field (in exactly the form > you'd use on the page), which (for me, at least) eliminates most of > the need to edit a URL. Yes I noticed that. But I dislike this feature: As I'm lazy I use to type a URL without that http:// staff. Omniweb seems to recognise server names which start with www (resp. ftp), but in other cases it assumes a relative URL and attaches it to the prviously viewed page. Also if a link is not correct (server not found, typing error), you often want to edit the URL. In my view, abandon these two URL lines and make just one, like it is done in Netscape. > To download a file (ftp or http or whatever), command-click on it > rather than just clicking. This will save the file in your download > directory, and select that file in the Workspace (unopened). And it > won't remove the file later (unlike with files being presented for > viewing by normal clicking). Thanks for that hint. Still I would regard it an improvement if .tar.gz (and similar) files are not opened the common way. > JavaScript is another matter. While we did some work on it about a > year ago, it unfortunately bears no resemblance (other than the name) > to Java: it has no complete specification, it has no coherent design, > and it's really hard to duplicate its functionality in another browser > since much of it is based on letting script writers manipulate > Netscape's innards (which look rather different from ours, meaning we > have to start emulating a lot of those innards to let those scripts > operate). I'm rather disappointed that Sun let Netscape name that > language "JavaScript", since really it's a "NetscapeScript" language. Thats true. I could live without JavaScript, but the lack of Java is a problem. > > : For example I cannot have internet banking with Omniweb. > > I've done internet banking with OmniWeb at several banks (using just > an HTTPS extension). Here in Germany there are several banks which use Java for security reasons. So you have to have a Java-capable browser to use internet banking. Anyway - Java has become that important recently that it would be really great to see a Java-capable Omniweb. I hope the responsible people at Omnigroup don't underestimate the importance of this.
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.financial,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.sys.next.software,microsoft.public.excel.misc Followup-To: comp.apps.spreadsheets From: casfaq@locutus.ofB.ORG Subject: FAQ: comp.apps.spreadsheets: pointer Summary: pointer to FAQ information about spreadsheets Message-ID: <19970216.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> References: <19970209.casfaq.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Supersedes: <19970202.casfaq.ptr.01@locutus.ofB.ORG> Date: 16 Feb 1997 05:00:00 -0700 Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada Archive-name: spreadsheets/pointer Comp-apps-spreadsheets-archive-name: pointer Frequency: biweekly comp.apps.spreadsheets == cas Frequently Asked Questions == FAQ cas is about spreadsheets for ALL computer platforms. The comp.apps.spreadsheets FAQ list can be obtained via all news.answers access methods: quoting the news.answers FAQ: `` Where are *.answers archived? All of the *.answers newsgroups are archived in the periodic posting archive on rtfm.mit.edu [18.181.0.24]. Postings are located in the anonymous ftp directories /pub/usenet/alt.answers, /pub/usenet/comp.answers, etc., and are archived by "Archive-name". Other subdirectories of /pub/usenet contain periodic postings that may not appear in *.answers (as well as most of the *.answers postings), saved by Subject line rather than by Archive-name. If you do not have anonymous ftp access, you can access the archives by mail server as well. Send an E-mail message to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu with "help" and "index" in the body on separate lines for more information. '' The FAQ list for comp.apps.spreadsheets is located on rtfm.mit.edu at /pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq <ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/comp.apps.spreadsheets/faq>
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Anyone writing apps for OS/Win? Date: 16 Feb 1997 16:33:04 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5e7cs0$6a1$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <5dq6lo$huq@news3.digex.net> elitman@viaduct.com (Eric Litman) wrote: > None of the archive sites have any OPENSTEP/Win apps. Is anyone writing > anything for this environment? > > -- > Eric A. Litman Viaduct Technologies, Inc. Bethesda, MD > CEO http://www.viaduct.com (301) 493-0220 > digital cellular (PCS) info: http://www.celltalk.com Yes, we're finishing up our port of the Visual Simulation Environment from NEXTSTEP 3.3 to OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. Then we'll be porting to OPENSTEP for NT which we've already installed and compiled some in-house frameworks for. So we should be shipping very shortly. See www.orcacomputer.com for more information. -- Chuck Esterbrook, Software Eng. http://www.orcacomputer.com/~chuck --------------------------------------------------------------------- chuck_esterbrook@orcacomputer.com / vo 540 231-3475 / fx 540 231-3480 Orca Computer, Inc. / 1800 Kraft Dr. Suite 111 / Blacksburg, VA 24060
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 16 Feb 1997 17:28:53 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : CubX developer is not compatible with Openstep Developer, and unbeleivably : is not the right word describing CubX, its speed is ok but not : unbelievably. I think the development package is not worth the additional : money since there are no X development tools and the socalled online : description consists only of poorly integrated man pages in a bookshelf. : If you compile apps on your own they grow five times the size the same : application in a linux environment. The development kit makes you feel as : if you were ripped and the other included apps are not worth mentioning. If by "not compatible with OpenStep Developer" you mean that X doesn't support PB/IB, well, duh. I'm not going to argue with you about speed since I guess this is a relative issue. It's quite fast on my TurboColor, but I guess YMMV depending on RAM and such. (FWIW, it blows the doors off XNeXT and co-Xist..) The lack of "X development tools" kinda has to do with X, not this particular implementation of it. I've been able to successfully compile almost every X application I've come across, including an Apple IIgs emulator (man, that was cool to see on the NeXT..). It ships with your standard X suite; I know today Linux ships with like, xabuse and other such fluff, but when it comes down to it, xterm, twm, and the X server are the only things you really need. *shrug* -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: tcpdump 3.0 - won't recognize en0 Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 22:21:01 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Keyword: tcpdump, ethernet Hi folks. I've successfully compiled tcpdump 3.0 including the Berkley Packet Filter that comes with it. When I try to run it, I get the following: en0: No such device or address In gdb, its get to a line in pcap-bpf.c with the following: ioctl(fd,BIOCSETIF, (caddr_t) &ifr); This call is failing for some reason but I don't know why. The ifr structure has a valid ifr_name = 'en0'. Any ideas? Oh, I have also created devices in /dev for bpf0 and bpf1 under number 32. I just did a mknod, don't know if anything else is requried there ... note that I have installed the bpf LKS that comes with PPP, should I not load that? Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: tcpdump 3.0 - won't recognize en0 Date: 16 Feb 1997 23:03:49 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5e83ol$bi7@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Cc: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk In <5e819k$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Jeff Richmond wrote: > Hi folks. I've successfully compiled tcpdump 3.0 including the Berkley Packet > Filter that comes with it. When I try to run it, I get the following: > > en0: No such device or address > > In gdb, its get to a line in pcap-bpf.c with the following: > > ioctl(fd,BIOCSETIF, (caddr_t) &ifr); > > This call is failing for some reason but I don't know why. The ifr structure > has a valid ifr_name = 'en0'. Any ideas? Oh, I have also created devices in > /dev for bpf0 and bpf1 under number 32. I just did a mknod, don't know if > anything else is requried there ... note that I have installed the bpf LKS > that comes with PPP, should I not load that? > > Cheers, > > Jeff Richmond > See the NS BPF package on http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html as it was adapted/rewritten by Satoshi Adachi (or the original site in Japan at ftp://ftp.aa.ap.titech.ac.jp/pub/adachi/ ). A vanilla BPF will not work on NS. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer : downloading all newsgroups? Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:11:34 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Hi. Is there anyway to stop NewsGrazer from loading all newsgroups down from the host nntp machine every time it runs? I am subscribed to half a dozen newsgroups and don't want to waste the time it takes for NewsGrazer to build a list of 10,000 newsgroups. Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: EOF - Oracle Support Date: Sun, 16 Feb 97 23:31:23 GMT Organization: UUNet PIPEX server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet PIPEX) Message-ID: <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Hi. I've been told that I need EOF to support connections to Oracle on another server. Is this true? The DBKit seems to imply that one can use SQL*Net 2 style connection descriptors ... alas, I don't know where to put the tnsnames.ora file that define these connections. How can DBKit establish this connection without SQL*Net? Has NeXT licensed code from Oracle and built their own SQL*Net infrastructure? Cheers, Jeff Richmond
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 16 Feb 1997 20:08:00 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: >In <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> Brian Ward wrote: >> Is there any java support for the NeXT machines? >> >I have used guavac on black Nexts successfully. Still some bugs in the >compiler but it is improving rapidly. >I think kaffe - the java VM - should run on Next either. Still no AWT in >sight so you have to rely on another machine to run your applets. The master source for kaffe 0.8 (latest as far as I know) doesn't compile cleanly on NS3.3p1. (I seem to recall that there are some socket funcs called with size_t * that want int *, and I don't remember whether sizeof(size_t) and sizeof(int) are the same.) But there is a package port on ftp.next.peak.org somewhere which has some awt support built-in (I was trying to avoid awt entirely for a while, which is why I tried the source). Also, I don't think kaffe can easily be compiled as a MAB to do the JIT stuff. But I'd like to be proven wrong. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 17 Feb 1997 03:16:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : The master source for kaffe 0.8 (latest as far as I know) doesn't : compile cleanly on NS3.3p1. (I seem to recall that there are some : socket funcs called with size_t * that want int *, and I don't : remember whether sizeof(size_t) and sizeof(int) are the same.) But : there is a package port on ftp.next.peak.org somewhere which has some : awt support built-in (I was trying to avoid awt entirely for a while, : which is why I tried the source). Also, I don't think kaffe can : easily be compiled as a MAB to do the JIT stuff. But I'd like to be : proven wrong. Actually, there are no size_t issues in 0.8. There is an issue of needing to include libc.h, but other than that, it'll compile fine. The AWT stuff is going to be icky because it's all X based. X sux. Given that there's no m68k JIT yet, setting up the executable to do JIT in a fat binary would be tricky. You have to "build" in the VM engine, so it couldn't be done without a lot of source modification. I've been playing with wrapping Kaffe in ObjC and a .app since version 0.5, and it's becoming increasingly more awkward as the sources define their own Object, Class and Method structures which class with NS's. Doh. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: rmunoz@eos.ncsu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: 17 Feb 1997 04:55:42 GMT Organization: North Carolina State University Message-ID: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Hello all, I am trying to get a fortran compiler for my new OpenStep 4.1 for Intel system. The new release of g77 +gcc in the archives fail to render usable code in my OS4.1. I have also tried to compile the "f2c" sources in the archive sites but they fail to compile in my system. Has anybody got any of them to work?. Would you be so kind as to share it with me or tell me what I need to do to make it work?. I am in desperate need of a fortran compiler (in fact, the main reason why I moved from my beloved NeXTStation Turbo to my new Intel system is the expected increase in speed.... ) Thank you very much for your help. Rafa -------------------------- R. Munoz-Carpena, Ph.D. e-mail:rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu Visiting Scholar fax:(919)515-6732 BAE Dept. North Carolina State University Raleigh, NC 27695-7625
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:48:05 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Hello, I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there are different used protocols. Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or something else? What to do? Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:41:47 +0100 Organization: EMBL Distribution: world Message-ID: <33087C3A.167E@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> References: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu It is possible to compile g77 for OPENSTEP. You have to make some changes to reflect the fact that sys_s is a shared library. I do not have the changes with me as I did this at home, but I will try and repost later today or tomorrow with the changes I made to the nexststep.h. It gives many warning messages when linking but the executables are fine. I have compiled a number of molecular biology programs with g77 under NeXTSTEP. For those interested I may later this week try and get the pgcc/pg77 the pentium optimised compiler to run under OPENSTEP. This should give binaries which are optimised for pentum machines. This is available for linux and solaris x86 altready I have heard and I will take a look and see how much work it is to get it to compiled for OPENSTEP. Dave -- David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg. Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/
From: "Lib Informática Ltda" <Lib.Info@empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: Brazilian Representative looks for good products to local market Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:29:56 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Message-ID: <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2Ugb25lIHdoZXJlIGFsbW9z dCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24gY29t cGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vydmlj ZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFwaWQg ZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3QsIGEg aGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBpcyBv cGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9ibGVt Li4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJlc2Vu dCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFuaWVz IGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgY29tcGFuaWVz IHdoaWNoIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgdXMgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IFBlcnNvbmFsbHksIEkgZG8gbWFuYWdl IGEgMiwwMDAgbWVtYmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVy ZSBJIHdyaXRlIHRoZW0gYWJvdXQgdGhlIG5ldyBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgcmVsZWFzZXMuICAgQW5k IGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgaWYgeW91IGUtbWFpbCBtZSBhYm91dCBuZXcgc29mdHdhcmVzIGFuZCByZWxl YXNlcy4NCg0KDQoNCkNhcmxvcyBCb3JnYXJ0aA0KTGliIEluZm9ybeF0aWNhIEx0ZGEuDQpSaW8g ZGUgSmFuZWlybyAgLSAgQnJhc2ls
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 17 Feb 1997 17:58:57 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> References: <199701100300.TAA24917@PEAK.ORG> Timothy J Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : I'm trying to get DOD working, but I've had no luck. : Anyone feel like giving advice? : TjL Hi, I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that it is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any network prog. Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? Thanks a lot ! yours -- After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. \ \ \ ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: David Grindrod <grindrod@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: f2c or g77 for OpenStep 4.1 Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 18:54:29 +0100 Organization: EMBL Distribution: world Message-ID: <33089B54.2781@mailhost.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE> References: <5e8oce$guf@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------446B794B15FB" To: rmunozc@eos.ncsu.edu This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------446B794B15FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have attached the nextstep.h file for compiling gcc and g77 under OPENSTEP. Overwrite the file in the config directory of the gcc distribution. Type ./configure --with-gnu-as make bootstrap make install Should see you through. You have to install g77 correctly and apply the necessary patches for the gcc version you are using. I have compiled this with gcc 2.7.2.1 and gcc 0.5.19 and it works fine. When linking with g77 (and gcc) there are a lot of warning messages but the executable created seems to be okay. The warning messages are created from the next ld command. The attached nextstep.h is only a temporary fix and hopefully a full OPENSTEP port will be done. If people cannot read the attachment let me know and I will put it on an ftp site. Alternatively to overwriting the nextstep.h just put the stuff relating to LIBGCC (from my changed nextstep.h) into config.h after doing the ./configure --with-gnu-as. I hope this helps. The g77 compiler created is really useful and hopefully eventually will be included into OPENSTEP as it would be nice to create multiple binary versions. Dave -- David grindrod, NMR System Manager, EMBL Heidelberg. Email: mailto:grindrod@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE HTML Home Page: http://www.NMR.EMBL-Heidelberg.DE/grindrod/ --------------446B794B15FB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="nextstep.h" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="nextstep.h" /* nextstep.h -- operating system specific defines to be used when targeting GCC for NeXTSTEP. Copyright (C) 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This file is part of GNU CC. GNU CC is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2, or (at your option) any later version. GNU CC is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU General Public License for more details. You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License along with GNU CC; see the file COPYING. If not, write to the Free Software Foundation, 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. */ /* Use new NeXT include file search path. In a cross compiler with NeXT as target, don't expect the host to use Next's directory scheme. */ #ifndef CROSS_COMPILE #undef INCLUDE_DEFAULTS #define INCLUDE_DEFAULTS \ { \ { GPLUSPLUS_INCLUDE_DIR, 1, 1 }, \ { LOCAL_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 1 }, \ { TOOL_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 1 }, \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 0 }, \ /* These are for fixincludes-fixed ansi/bsd headers \ which wouldn't be found otherwise. \ (The use of string catenation here is OK since \ NeXT's native compiler is derived from GCC.) */ \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR "/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { GCC_INCLUDE_DIR "/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/ansi", 0, 0 }, \ { "/LocalDeveloper/Headers/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { "/NextDeveloper/2.0CompatibleHeaders", 0, 0 }, \ { STANDARD_INCLUDE_DIR, 0, 0 }, \ { "/usr/include/bsd", 0, 0 }, \ { 0, 0, 0 } \ } #endif /* CROSS_COMPILE */ #undef EXTRA_FORMAT_FUNCTIONS #define EXTRA_FORMAT_FUNCTIONS \ "NXPrintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "NXScanf", TRUE, 2, FALSE, \ "NXVPrintf", FALSE, 2, TRUE, \ "NXVScanf", TRUE, 2, TRUE, \ "DPSPrintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "bsd_sprintf", FALSE, 2, FALSE, \ "bsd_vsprintf", FALSE, 2, TRUE, /* Make -fnext-runtime the default. */ #define NEXT_OBJC_RUNTIME /* We have atexit. */ #define HAVE_ATEXIT /* Enable recent gcc to compile under the old gcc in Next release 1.0. */ #define __inline inline /* wchar_t is unsigned short */ #undef WCHAR_TYPE #define WCHAR_TYPE "short unsigned int" #undef WCHAR_TYPE_SIZE #define WCHAR_TYPE_SIZE (BITS_PER_WORD / 2) /* Don't default to pcc-struct-return, because gcc is the only compiler, and we want to retain compatibility with older gcc versions. */ #undef DEFAULT_PCC_STRUCT_RETURN #define DEFAULT_PCC_STRUCT_RETURN 0 /* These compiler options take n arguments. */ #undef WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG #define WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG(STR) \ (DEFAULT_WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG (STR) ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segalign") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "seg1addr") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segaddr") ? 2 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectobjectsymbols") ? 2 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segprot") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectcreate") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectalign") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "segcreate") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "sectorder") ? 3 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-mask") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-filter") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "siff-warning") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "arch") ? 1 : \ !strcmp (STR, "pagezero_size") ? 1 : \ 0) #undef WORD_SWITCH #define WORD_SWITCH(STR) \ (WORD_SWITCH_TAKES_ARG (STR) \ || !strcmp (STR, "bsd") \ || !strcmp (STR, "object") \ || !strcmp (STR, "ObjC") \ || !strcmp (STR, "all_load")) /* Machine dependent ccp options. */ #undef CPP_SPEC #define CPP_SPEC "%{!traditional: -D__STDC__} \ %{posixstrict:-D_POSIX_SOURCE} \ %{!posixstrict:%{bsd:-D__STRICT_BSD__} \ %{posix:-D_POSIX_SOURCE} \ %{!ansi:-D_NEXT_SOURCE}} \ %{MD:-MD %M} %{MMD:-MMD %M}" /* Machine dependent ld options. */ #undef LINK_SPEC #define LINK_SPEC "%{Z} %{M} \ %{execute*} %{preload*} %{fvmlib*} \ %{segalign*} %{seg1addr*} %{segaddr*} %{segprot*} \ %{pagezero_size*} \ %{seglinkedit*} %{noseglinkedit*} \ %{sectcreate*} %{sectalign*} %{sectobjectsymbols}\ %{segcreate*} %{Mach*} %{whyload} %{w} \ %{sectorder*} %{whatsloaded} %{ObjC} %{all_load} %{object}" /* Machine dependent libraries. */ #undef LIBGCC_SPEC #ifndef LIBGCC_SPEC #define LIBGCC_SPEC "" #endif #undef LIB_SPEC #ifndef LIB_SPEC #define LIB_SPEC "%{!shared:-lgcc} %{!shared:-lsys_s}" #endif #undef STARTFILE_SPEC #ifndef STARTFILE_SPEC /* config.h can define STARTFILE_SPEC to override the default crt0 files. */ #define STARTFILE_SPEC \ "-dynamic %{!shared:-lcrt1.o}" #endif /* Why not? */ #undef DOLLARS_IN_IDENTIFIERS #define DOLLARS_IN_IDENTIFIERS 2 /* Allow #sscs (but don't do anything). */ #define SCCS_DIRECTIVE /* We use Dbx symbol format. */ #undef SDB_DEBUGGING_INFO #undef XCOFF_DEBUGGING_INFO #define DBX_DEBUGGING_INFO /* This saves a fair amount of space. */ #undef DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH #define DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH 0 /* These screw up NeXT's gdb at the moment, so don't use them. */ #undef DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_DIRECTORY #define DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_DIRECTORY(FILE, FILENAME) /* These come from bsd386.h, but are specific to sequent, so make sure they don't bite us. */ #undef DBX_NO_XREFS #undef DBX_CONTIN_LENGTH /* gdb needs a null N_SO at the end of each file for scattered loading. */ #undef DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_FILE_END #define DBX_OUTPUT_MAIN_SOURCE_FILE_END(FILE, FILENAME) \ fprintf (FILE, \ "\t.text\n\t.stabs \"%s\",%d,0,0,Letext\nLetext:\n", \ "" , N_SO) /* Don't use .gcc_compiled symbols to communicate with GDB; They interfere with numerically sorted symbol lists. */ #undef ASM_IDENTIFY_GCC #define ASM_IDENTIFY_GCC(asm_out_file) #undef INIT_SECTION_ASM_OP #define INIT_SECTION_ASM_OP #undef INVOKE__main #undef ASM_OUTPUT_CONSTRUCTOR #define ASM_OUTPUT_CONSTRUCTOR(FILE,NAME) \ do { constructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ fprintf (FILE, "\t.long "); \ assemble_name (FILE, NAME); \ fprintf (FILE, "\n"); \ fprintf (FILE, ".reference .constructors_used\n"); \ } while (0) #undef ASM_OUTPUT_DESTRUCTOR #define ASM_OUTPUT_DESTRUCTOR(FILE,NAME) \ do { destructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ fprintf (FILE, "\t.long "); \ assemble_name (FILE, NAME); \ fprintf (FILE, "\n"); \ fprintf (FILE, ".reference .destructors_used\n"); \ } while (0) /* Don't output a .file directive. That is only used by the assembler for error reporting. */ #undef ASM_FILE_START #define ASM_FILE_START(FILE) #undef ASM_FILE_END #define ASM_FILE_END(FILE) \ do { \ extern char *language_string; \ if (strcmp (language_string, "GNU C++") == 0) \ { \ constructor_section (); \ destructor_section (); \ ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN (FILE, 1); \ } \ } while (0) /* How to parse #pragma's */ #undef HANDLE_PRAGMA #define HANDLE_PRAGMA(finput) handle_pragma (finput, &get_directive_line) /* Give methods pretty symbol names on NeXT. */ #undef OBJC_GEN_METHOD_LABEL #define OBJC_GEN_METHOD_LABEL(BUF,IS_INST,CLASS_NAME,CAT_NAME,SEL_NAME,NUM) \ do { if (CAT_NAME) \ sprintf (BUF, "%c[%s(%s) %s]", (IS_INST) ? '-' : '+', \ (CLASS_NAME), (CAT_NAME), (SEL_NAME)); \ else \ sprintf (BUF, "%c[%s %s]", (IS_INST) ? '-' : '+', \ (CLASS_NAME), (SEL_NAME)); \ } while (0) /* Wrap new method names in quotes so the assembler doesn't gag. Make Objective-C internal symbols local. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_LABELREF #define ASM_OUTPUT_LABELREF(FILE,NAME) \ do { if (NAME[0] == '+' || NAME[0] == '-') fprintf (FILE, "\"%s\"", NAME); \ else if (!strncmp (NAME, "_OBJC_", 6)) fprintf (FILE, "L%s", NAME); \ else if (!strncmp (NAME, ".objc_class_name_", 17)) \ fprintf (FILE, "%s", NAME); \ else fprintf (FILE, "_%s", NAME); } while (0) #undef ALIGN_ASM_OP #define ALIGN_ASM_OP ".align" #undef ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN #define ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN(FILE,LOG) \ if ((LOG) != 0) \ fprintf (FILE, "\t%s %d\n", ALIGN_ASM_OP, (LOG)) /* Ensure correct alignment of bss data. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGNED_LOCAL #define ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGNED_LOCAL(FILE, NAME, SIZE, ALIGN) \ ( fputs (".lcomm ", (FILE)), \ assemble_name ((FILE), (NAME)), \ fprintf ((FILE), ",%u,%u\n", (SIZE), floor_log2 ((ALIGN) / BITS_PER_UNIT))) /* Output #ident as a .ident. */ #undef ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT #define ASM_OUTPUT_IDENT(FILE, NAME) fprintf (FILE, "\t.ident \"%s\"\n", NAME); /* The maximum alignment which the object file format can support. For NeXT's Mach-O format, this is 2^15. */ #undef MAX_OFILE_ALIGNMENT #define MAX_OFILE_ALIGNMENT 0x8000 /* Create new Mach-O sections. */ #undef SECTION_FUNCTION #define SECTION_FUNCTION(FUNCTION, SECTION, DIRECTIVE, WAS_TEXT, OBJC) \ void \ FUNCTION () \ { \ extern void text_section (); \ extern void objc_section_init (); \ extern int flag_no_mach_text_sections; \ \ if (WAS_TEXT && flag_no_mach_text_sections) \ text_section (); \ else if (in_section != SECTION) \ { \ if (OBJC) \ objc_section_init (); \ fprintf (asm_out_file, "%s\n", DIRECTIVE); \ in_section = SECTION; \ } \ } \ #undef EXTRA_SECTIONS #define EXTRA_SECTIONS \ in_const, in_cstring, in_literal4, in_literal8, \ in_constructor, in_destructor, \ in_objc_class, in_objc_meta_class, in_objc_category, \ in_objc_class_vars, in_objc_instance_vars, \ in_objc_cls_meth, in_objc_inst_meth, \ in_objc_cat_cls_meth, in_objc_cat_inst_meth, \ in_objc_selector_refs, \ in_objc_symbols, in_objc_module_info, \ in_objc_protocol, in_objc_string_object, \ in_objc_class_names, in_objc_meth_var_names, \ in_objc_meth_var_types, in_objc_cls_refs #undef EXTRA_SECTION_FUNCTIONS #define EXTRA_SECTION_FUNCTIONS \ SECTION_FUNCTION (const_section, \ in_const, \ ".const", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (cstring_section, \ in_cstring, \ ".cstring", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (literal4_section, \ in_literal4, \ ".literal4", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (literal8_section, \ in_literal8, \ ".literal8", 1, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (constructor_section, \ in_constructor, \ ".constructor", 0, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (destructor_section, \ in_destructor, \ ".destructor", 0, 0) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_section, \ in_objc_class, \ ".objc_class", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meta_class_section, \ in_objc_meta_class, \ ".objc_meta_class", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_category_section, \ in_objc_category, \ ".objc_category", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_vars_section, \ in_objc_class_vars, \ ".objc_class_vars", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_instance_vars_section, \ in_objc_instance_vars, \ ".objc_instance_vars", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cls_meth_section, \ in_objc_cls_meth, \ ".objc_cls_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_inst_meth_section, \ in_objc_inst_meth, \ ".objc_inst_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cat_cls_meth_section, \ in_objc_cat_cls_meth, \ ".objc_cat_cls_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cat_inst_meth_section, \ in_objc_cat_inst_meth, \ ".objc_cat_inst_meth", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_selector_refs_section, \ in_objc_selector_refs, \ ".objc_message_refs", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_symbols_section, \ in_objc_symbols, \ ".objc_symbols", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_module_info_section, \ in_objc_module_info, \ ".objc_module_info", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_protocol_section, \ in_objc_protocol, \ ".objc_protocol", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_string_object_section, \ in_objc_string_object, \ ".objc_string_object", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_class_names_section, \ in_objc_class_names, \ ".objc_class_names", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meth_var_names_section, \ in_objc_meth_var_names, \ ".objc_meth_var_names", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_meth_var_types_section, \ in_objc_meth_var_types, \ ".objc_meth_var_types", 0, 1) \ SECTION_FUNCTION (objc_cls_refs_section, \ in_objc_cls_refs, \ ".objc_cls_refs", 0, 1) \ \ void \ objc_section_init () \ { \ static int been_here = 0; \ \ if (been_here == 0) \ { \ been_here = 1; \ objc_class_section (); \ objc_meta_class_section (); \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ objc_cls_meth_section (); \ objc_inst_meth_section (); \ objc_selector_refs_section (); \ objc_symbols_section (); \ objc_category_section (); \ objc_protocol_section (); \ objc_class_vars_section (); \ objc_instance_vars_section (); \ objc_module_info_section (); \ objc_string_object_section (); \ objc_class_names_section (); \ objc_meth_var_names_section (); \ objc_meth_var_types_section (); \ objc_cls_refs_section (); \ } \ } #undef READONLY_DATA_SECTION #define READONLY_DATA_SECTION const_section #undef SELECT_SECTION #define SELECT_SECTION(exp,reloc) \ do \ { \ if (TREE_CODE (exp) == STRING_CST) \ { \ if (flag_writable_strings) \ data_section (); \ else if (TREE_STRING_LENGTH (exp) != \ strlen (TREE_STRING_POINTER (exp)) + 1) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ cstring_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == INTEGER_CST \ || TREE_CODE (exp) == REAL_CST) \ { \ tree size = TYPE_SIZE (TREE_TYPE (exp)); \ \ if (TREE_CODE (size) == INTEGER_CST && \ TREE_INT_CST_LOW (size) == 4 && \ TREE_INT_CST_HIGH (size) == 0) \ literal4_section (); \ else if (TREE_CODE (size) == INTEGER_CST && \ TREE_INT_CST_LOW (size) == 8 && \ TREE_INT_CST_HIGH (size) == 0) \ literal8_section (); \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == CONSTRUCTOR \ && TREE_TYPE (exp) \ && TREE_CODE (TREE_TYPE (exp)) == RECORD_TYPE \ && TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp)) \ && TREE_CODE (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp))) == IDENTIFIER_NODE \ && IDENTIFIER_POINTER (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp)))) \ { \ if (!strcmp (IDENTIFIER_POINTER (TYPE_NAME (TREE_TYPE (exp))), \ "NXConstantString")) \ objc_string_object_section (); \ else if ((TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_CONSTANT (exp)) \ && !TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp)) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == VAR_DECL && \ DECL_NAME (exp) && \ TREE_CODE (DECL_NAME (exp)) == IDENTIFIER_NODE && \ IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)) && \ !strncmp (IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)), "_OBJC_", 6)) \ { \ const char *name = IDENTIFIER_POINTER (DECL_NAME (exp)); \ \ if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_METHODS_", 20)) \ objc_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 23)) \ objc_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_CLASS_METHODS_", 20)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 23)) \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_VARIABLES_", 22)) \ objc_class_vars_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_INSTANCE_VARIABLES_", 25)) \ objc_instance_vars_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_PROTOCOLS_", 22)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_NAME_", 17)) \ objc_class_names_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METH_VAR_NAME_", 20)) \ objc_meth_var_names_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METH_VAR_TYPE_", 20)) \ objc_meth_var_types_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_REFERENCES", 22)) \ objc_cls_refs_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CLASS_", 12)) \ objc_class_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_METACLASS_", 16)) \ objc_meta_class_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_CATEGORY_", 15)) \ objc_category_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_SELECTOR_REFERENCES", 25)) \ objc_selector_refs_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_SYMBOLS", 13)) \ objc_symbols_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_MODULES", 13)) \ objc_module_info_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_INSTANCE_METHODS_", 32)) \ objc_cat_inst_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_CLASS_METHODS_", 29)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_REFS_", 20)) \ objc_cat_cls_meth_section (); \ else if (!strncmp (name, "_OBJC_PROTOCOL_", 15)) \ objc_protocol_section (); \ else if ((TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_CONSTANT (exp)) \ && !TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp)) \ readonly_data_section (); \ else \ data_section (); \ } \ else if (TREE_CODE (exp) == VAR_DECL) \ { \ if ((flag_pic && reloc) \ || !TREE_READONLY (exp) || TREE_SIDE_EFFECTS (exp) \ || !DECL_INITIAL (exp) \ || (DECL_INITIAL (exp) != error_mark_node \ && !TREE_CONSTANT (DECL_INITIAL (exp)))) \ data_section (); \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ else \ readonly_data_section (); \ } \ while (0) #undef SELECT_RTX_SECTION #define SELECT_RTX_SECTION(mode, rtx) \ do \ { \ if (GET_MODE_SIZE(mode) == 8) \ literal8_section(); \ else if (GET_MODE_SIZE(mode) == 4) \ literal4_section(); \ else \ const_section (); \ } \ while (0) --------------446B794B15FB--
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:24:34 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> I was wondering if anyone can help me - I'm looking for a display driver for a Compaq Contura notebook. None of the drivers included with the OPENSTEP/Mach 4.1 release support any better than black-and-white on the display, though the hardware can handle 8-bit color at 640x480. If I select the Western Digital LCD display driver, it's looking for 1 meg of VRAM, which is more than my notebook has. If I edit the memory maps in 'expert settings' to tell it to look for 300K of VRAM (if the machine supports 640x480x8b it must have at least 300K of VRAM) it still doesn't work; on reboot (either looking for 1 meg or 300K of VRAM) it warns of something like 'unsupported memory width' and defaults to the default VGA driver (which is why I'm getting black and white). Has anyone gotten the Western Digital LCD driver to work with a Compaq Contura 420C notebook or anything similar? Or has anyone attepted to write a driver for this machine? It's a decently solid machine and OPENSTEP handles nicely on it (as long as you stay away from the hardware suspend/hibernate commands, which are flaky with OPENSTEP) and it'd be nice to get OPENSTEP running on it (since the desktop box it had been installed on croaked). Thanks in advance! -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:59:00 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ldbuchho wrote: > > Hi, > > does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my > NeXTstation-Computer? > > Thanks I'm using teTeX, have a look at Gregor's page: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ stefan
From: humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Next shareware/freeware-- where? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:11:34 GMT Organization: Humanist Movement Message-ID: <5eadum$goj@park.interport.net> Where can one find good Next-intel-3.30 shareware/freeware? ------------------- "Computers are like people; the old generation can never figure out the software in the newer generations. "
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:18:32 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5eaeeo$s9f$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Cc: cchris@chum.hooked.net In <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Chris Christensen wrote: % Greetings, % % I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler % (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? % Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 % or is it a problem with the path? It is called cc instead of gcc (cc: /bin/cc) ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 17 Feb 1997 22:44:52 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5ean14$9kb$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970217224333.1940M-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> wrote: : Right, they are the only things i have installed of the whole CubX : package! CubX has not even a working de/installation programm. I cant : recommend the development package. Weird. It seems as though we've had totally opposite experiences. :( -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
Message-ID: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 15:22:54 +0100 From: ldbuchho <ldbuchho@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Constance, Germany Hi, does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my NeXTstation-Computer? Thanks
From: tfrey@.next.com (Tony Frey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:01:14 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> References: <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Get the newest one from NeXTAnswers. In article <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) writes: > I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config than the > one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, could you > please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. > > Randy Jackson > > -- > Randy Jackson, Associate Professor ,_ o > __o Geography, The Ohio State University / //\, > _`\<,_ 1036 Derby Hall, 154 North Oval Mall \>> | > (*)/ (*) Columbus OH 43210-1361 \\, > FAX (614) 292 6213 randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu > http://www.geography.ohio-state.edu/faculty/jackson/ -- ---------------------------------------------- Tony Frey tfrey@next.com NeXT Premium Support http://www.next.com ----------------------------------------------
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 18 Feb 1997 02:23:42 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970218022300.VAA22612@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: C compiler question Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:41:19 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Message-ID: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Greetings, I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 or is it a problem with the path? Thank you for any help. Chris <cchris@hooked.net>
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:37:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 samba functionality on next? by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > disk and printer sharing) from the host. NeXT's ship with NFS and lpd. Look up those topics in the man pages, Librarian.app and NeXT's Sysadmin docs, and/or your favorite O'Reilly reference manuals. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 20:35:40 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 named.....is it tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name > server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of > SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit > with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to > do, but that it isn't working. NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mfrankow@winternet.com (Michael Frankowski) Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Control: cancel <01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 18 Feb 1997 03:00:56 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda" <Lib.Info@empresa.com.br> Message-ID: <winternet.com01bc1ca8$718ed200$0100007f@lib-info-01> Please cancel this article
From: lewispsc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Philip Lewis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sybase help needed Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:23:33 -0800 Organization: Stanford University, CA 94305, USA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5eb3r5$1sc@elaine17.Stanford.EDU> I have the Sybase Limited Server which has been running on my NeXTStation; it is started from etc/rc.local each time I power on. According to SYBASE.errorlog, at 10.54 on February 10 it started satisfactorily. At 11.04 it restarted, though I am fairly sure that I hadn't closed it (I never consciously do), and usr/adm/messages shows nothing for that time. The errorlog then shows, Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: DBMS task stack area range: %x506008 to %x662008 Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: initializing virtual device 0, "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ninit: bind, Can't assign requested address Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ksconsole: cannot initialize console Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: Using standard unix disk I/O for "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of buffers in buffer cache: 912. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of proc buffers allocated: 242. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Number of blocks left for proc headers: 285. Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Opening Master Database ... Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Recovering database 'master' Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: network name otoole, port 3696 Feb 10 1997 11:05PM kernel: ninit: bind, Can't assign requested address Feb 10 1997 11:05PM server: Unable to initialize network 0 and has done ever since. At first there were also repeated console messages, e.g.: Feb 13 15:32:35 otoole mach: tty3072: canon input overrun but these have not reappeared for some time. On one occasion only there was a message Feb 15 1997 11:39AM kernel: dopen: file "/usr/sybase/database/master.sdb" is already in use by The only other difference I can see in the record of the start-up process is that previously blocks left for proc headers were 284, and now they are 285. I have looked for files which were changed on 10 February, but the only one around the right time is master2.sdb, which was changed at 10.54 on 10 February. master.sdb was last changed at 15.03 that day, even though the server was not properly started then and has been tried without success ever since. Please help. Is there some way in which I can reinstall the server and make use of the .sdb files? Would that need the original disks? Philip Lewis lewispsc@leland.stanford.edu
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:59:51 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970217224333.1940M-100000@pollux.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> <5dvfjh$k89$1@darla.visi.com> <Pine.NXT.3.95.970214224346.568A-100000@pollux> <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e7g4l$r62$1@darla.visi.com> On 16 Feb 1997, David Young wrote: > If by "not compatible with OpenStep Developer" you mean that X doesn't > support PB/IB, well, duh. I'm not going to argue with you about speed I did not mean that. I meant that you cant compile apps under Openstep 4.1. BTW. we have CubX 5.0 > The lack of "X development tools" kinda has to do with X, not this > particular implementation of it. I've been able to successfully compile > almost every X application I've come across, including an Apple IIgs I was not so lucky, not even one compiled right out of the box by calling xmkmf and makefile. I had almost every time to modify files to make it compile, and very often they did not work although they compiled fine. This is my experience with NS 3.3p1/gcc 2.7.2 (2.5.8) and with OS 4.1 i was unable to compile anything, first i had to use ranlib on the libraries and afterwards i got some strange messages about treating libs as shared libs or something likely. > emulator (man, that was cool to see on the NeXT..). It ships with > your standard X suite; I know today Linux ships with like, xabuse and > other such fluff, but when it comes down to it, xterm, twm, and the X > server are the only things you really need. *shrug* Right, they are the only things i have installed of the whole CubX package! CubX has not even a working de/installation programm. I cant recommend the development package. > > -- > # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp > # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 > # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better) > > --- Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@jura.uni-bonn.de
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal application Date: 17 Feb 1997 23:08:30 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5eaode$178@news-central.tiac.net> References: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> wrote: >I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so >that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to >the internet. Any suggestions???? Ain't tip good enough for you?
From: american@mail.tds.net (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenWrite Spelling Question Date: 18 Feb 1997 01:23:52 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <5eb0b8$q1j@news2.tds.net> Hello everyone, I am having some problem getting the spelling feature in OpenWrite to work. Is there a problem with it? I pull up the spelling checker the usual way but am unable to check the document. At best, I only can check the word located under the cursor. Thanks, Charles -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Charles C. Hocker american@Mail.TDS.Net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: scottb@formats-unlimited.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Internet Search Engines Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 05:06:06 GMT Organization: LI Net (Long Island Network) Message-ID: <32cfe53e.4780304@newshost.li.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for any software that will allow you to setup company names on the general internet search engines. I know there are a number of companies that offer this service but where are they getting this software.
From: "Daniel M. Burckhardt" <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 09:25:59 +0100 Organization: D-ARCH, ETHZ, CH Message-ID: <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aleksey Sudakov wrote: > > Anyone tried to compile kaffe for m68k with OpenStep 4.x ??? I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal error, seems to be some socket stuff). I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, I would appreciate some advice. Daniel
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: named.....is it tricky? Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:31:56 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5ea86s$o9k@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to do, but that it isn't working. I know that that isn't very much information, but does anybody know if there is anything non-standard, or tricky with respect to setting this up on a NeXT. I'm currently using NS3.3 if that matters. Thanks in advance. Cheers - jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: vhs@nextone.langen.bull.de (Volker Herminghaus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:37:52 GMT Organization: Bull AG, Langen Message-ID: <5ec7r0$1va@www.langen.bull.de> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: vbragin@ix.netcom.com In <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Vicki Bragin wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? There should be at least one row of pixels of the main menu visible on-screen. Try to look in the corners of your screen for a small black stripe. Or just drag out of the corners blindly. You might also try to readjust your monitor before that to make sure the edges of the screen image are not cut off. Volker
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: 18 Feb 1997 12:55:37 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 named.....is it > tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > > A friend of mine is in the process of setting up my NeXT to be a name > > server for a couple of domain names. He has done this with a couple of > > SGI computers and says he had no problem. He is struggling a little bit > > with my NeXT. Says he read the man page and did the stuff he knows to > > do, but that it isn't working. > > NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" > book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x > version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts > with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. Thanks Chuck. I'll pass that along. I'm guessing that it's the interaction with NetInfo that is screwing him up. If one were to set up named without considering NetInfo, would it work? Thanks again - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 18 Feb 1997 04:35:36 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5ebbio$9o4@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5ea03p$v8f@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) wrote: > Does the Zyxel have a com port built in? I think this is the only way, an > internal card could work without drivers. Exactly; that's the way they work. > Did you try such a card? How about system load because of the > heavy interrupt load caused by an ISDN connection? Not a card, but I use the external 2864ID via the serial port and see no reason why results should greatly differ. System load is no problem at all on my Pentium 90... Speed is usually about 7000cps Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TESTERS NEEDED Helpful Internet program Date: 18 Feb 1997 14:27:36 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ece8o$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <01bc191b$25e7f060$f11814cf@jane.crowley.asciient.com> "David Silviera" <david.silviera@asciient.com> wrote: >We are ASCII Entertainment Software. We are evaluating a product called >"The Internet Ninja" which is currently being distributed in Japan. This >software allows users to save images from the Internet with no download >time. To Save images, you simply click and drag the image you want on to >the Internet Ninja program. The Internet Ninja will take the image >straight out of your computer's cache memory and put a thumbnail image into >your "book". Cool... well, wrt. just dragging an image from my Web browser into another application, I've been able to do this for the last couple of years, using OmniWeb and e.g. Diagram :-) isn't NEXTSTEP wonderful.. What I find impressive though is the implementation of an instanteneous file transfer (probably based on Fast Thought Transfer Protocol, FTTP). I mean, Hey! *No* download time! All these annoying downloads via modem are a thing of the past! Now that could really be a reason to abandon NEXTSTEP and install Mircosoft Windows. These Ninja turtle programmers really are amazing, dude. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:45:27 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5eag17$iij@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> In article <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) writes: >Timothy J Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: > >: I'm trying to get DOD working, but I've had no luck. > >: Anyone feel like giving advice? > >: TjL > >Hi, > >I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that it >is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any network >prog. > >Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? > You probably have undelivered mail in the queue. The queue is processed at regular intervals, if there is undelivered mail sendmail will trigger a dial on demand session as it attempts to deliver the mail. The minor mods that I made to the named daemon do not filter lookups so any name lookup for which the local nameserver is not authoritative will trigger a dial on demand session. >Thanks a lot ! > >yours >-- > After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... > / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. > \ \ \ > ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user > \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 18 Feb 1997 15:22:58 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: : I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal : error, seems to be some socket stuff). : I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, : I would appreciate some advice. I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. I just can't keep up. *sigh* BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed strategically. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:34:34 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> For the last several weeks, the main menus of two applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke that I perchance might have used that caused the main menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I get back these menus? Thanks for any help. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: samba functionality on next? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 19:52:06 +0100 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello All, Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie disk and printer sharing) from the host. Is there a package out there to help? Please CC my private mail address on replies. Thanks a lot, Paul Doornbusch
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 16:58:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecn2o$kh2@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? When a main menu is relocated from its default position, either purposely or through some sort of anomoly, a defaults database entry for the menu position should exist which will be used to place the menu in the same location on subsequent app invocations. Enter "dread -o TheAppName" to view the various defaults database variables. Then remove the variable that specifies the main menu location and restart the app. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Starting Apps from the command line Date: 18 Feb 97 08:01:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb18080120@howard.one.net> References: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <sams.856233728@shellx> In-reply-to: sams@best.com's message of 17 Feb 1997 18:44:32 -0800 In article <sams.856233728@shellx> sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) writes: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: >How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the >command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via >Services. One of these will tell you how to open things in another app or window: man open Just to be painfully clear for Unix people ... that's "man 1 open", not "man 2 open". Of course, "man open" will find section 1 first ... Don't want anyone thinking open(2) does anything like this :-), -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Starting Apps from the command line Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:35:25 GMT I'm an ardent user of Emacs and Gnus is the newsreader of my choice. I would like to make use of Gnus's (and TM's, a MIME mode) ability to use external programs for viewing not-text things. How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via Services. Thanks for any pointers, Markus G
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 17 Feb 1997 23:21:14 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> Anyone tried to compile kaffe for m68k with OpenStep 4.x ??? Somehow there is only Intel version of binaries at peak. Regards, Aleksey
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to connect via ISDN on Intel hardware? Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:13:45 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5ea03p$v8f@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <58abtp$oo5@cmir.arnes.si> <1996Dec7.230912.24020@seer.demon.co.uk> <32FAEA2A.3CB8@gcomm.com> <5dhrvq$dbr@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> <5e4vj8$7qg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: >michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper) wrote: >> I don't think there are drivers for any ISDN _cards_ available. The only >> solution is an external TA. > >But ISDN cards such as the ZyXEL cards that don't need special drivers but >work with the AT command set just like an external TA on a serial port will >work of course. Does the Zyxel have a com port built in? I think this is the only way, an internal card could work without drivers. Did you try such a card? How about system load because of the heavy interrupt load caused by an ISDN connection? Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: olaf@orest.escape.de Subject: SUBMISSION: OlafAM.1.0 - a programmable voice/fax/data machine for selected modems Message-ID: <E5srz8.1vv@orest.escape.de> Sender: olaf@orest.escape.de (Olaf Mueller) Organization: Objective Methods, Inc. Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 11:59:32 GMT This posting is because of inexplicable slowlyness of moderation of comp.sys.next.announce --- The programmable voice/fax/data machine OlafAM ver 1.0 for NeXT Computers and selected modems is available now at ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.0.NIH S.b.tar.gz ftp://peanuts.leo.org/pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/apps/OlafAM.1.0.REA DME Here the contents of the README: OlafAM a programmable Voice/Fax/Data machine for Computers running NextStep and selected Modems What is OlafAM ? ---------------- You can: telephone like before. OlafAM.app can dial for you. configure the behavior of the answering machine for your own purpose. You can play messages, reading digits entered by the caller, and invoke actions depending on the results of this input. You are able to listen to recorded voices from a remote place, and you can leave a message for friends. You are able to build a "Fax On Demand" machine. Received calls can be delivered to your mailbox, and a simple doubleClick will play it. send faxes using the PrintPanel This means, that you can fax everything you can print. receive faxes Received faxes can be delivered to your mailbox, and a simple doubleClick will display it. receive data calls Everybody can dial into your computer, if this feature is enabled. make data calls Use PPP, uucp or other programs to call out into the wide world of data communications. Requirements ------------ This software is built with white NS3.3 and tested on white, black and yellow NS3.3. It will probably also run on green computers. Following modems do definitely work together with this software: ZyXEL U1496?? (voice/fax/data modem) ZyXEL E2864?? (voice/fax/data modem) Creatix SG 2834 turbo (voice/fax/data modem) Creatix SG 2834 (fax/data modem) Other modems including a ROCKWELL chipset will probably also work. Modems only supporting Class2.0 Fax will maybe work. People who help me to support a modem, which does not work together with this software, will get a free permanent licence. Use --- If no licence string is entered, this package will run in demo mode. That means: * Incoming voices are limited to 4 seconds. * Regarding digits entered by caller disabled. * Incoming faxes are disabled. * Outgoing faxes are limited to 1 page. * Incoming data calls are limited to 1 minute. You can order a licence for 10 days for free, which enables all functions. You can order a permanent licence for each feature, either voice or fax or data with following prices: Voice Fax Data All 40 US$ 40 US$ 20 US$ 85 US$ Answering machine programs -------------------------- Answering Machine programs will be written in the language "AnsweringMachineLanguage" (AML). It is simple and sufficient for (nearly) all cases, i can imagine. You can have as many programs as you like. So you are able to configure your telephone today as a private machine and tomorrow as a fax-on-demand machine. Author: Olaf Mueller Heinrichstr. 38 D-38106 Braunschweig Germany eMail: olaf@orest.escape.de Tel/Fax: +49 -531 338026
From: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:17:56 +0100 Organization: Wirehub! Internet Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. Paul On Mon, 17 Feb 1997, Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 17-Feb-97 samba > functionality on next? by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > > disk and printer sharing) from the host. > > NeXT's ship with NFS and lpd. Look up those topics in the man pages, > Librarian.app and NeXT's Sysadmin docs, and/or your favorite O'Reilly > reference manuals. > > -Chuck > > > Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer > ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. > > > Paul Doornbusch Sonology Dept. Royal Conservatory Den Haag The Netherlands
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: named.....is it tricky? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 13:15:02 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <sn2T6aS00iWk05nkg0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Un2ERgC00iWV0Fs0BM@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ec8s9$8hv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: named.....is it tricky? by Jon Haveman@mgmt.purdue. > > NeXT's named is a stock v4.8.3; it's what the O'Reilly "DNS and Bind" > > book was written for, pretty much. He might want to compile a 4.9.x > > version and use that, and he should be aware of NetInfo which interacts > > with the resolver routines on the nameserver itself. > > Thanks Chuck. I'll pass that along. I'm guessing that it's the > interaction with NetInfo that is screwing him up. If one were to set up > named without considering NetInfo, would it work? NetInfo shouldn't impact the nameserver, unless NetInfo is screwed up enough that the resolver routines don't return valid information, which might prevent the nameserver daemon from finding the root nameservers and being able to bootstrap itself into a fully working mode. You haven't provided enough information about the problem for me to guess whether NetInfo actually is the problem-- all you asked for was things to be aware of, and NetInfo is something your friend should look into if he's having problems. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: file ownership Message-ID: <E5t9Lq.E7A@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:20:14 GMT References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> In comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > I'm having a problem with file ownership. > My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. > However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing > ownership to my account . > ... > So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? > How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? > What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future. Typically this is caused by not having an entry for the disk in your /etc/fstab file. If Workspace notices a SCSI disk which isn't specifically mentioned in your fstab, it assumes that it is a temporary disk which you want mounted in the same manner as a floppy. The disk is mounted using the permissions of the current user logged in. If this is the cause of your problem, you can simply add a line like the following to /etc/fstab, so that the disk will be a permanent part of your machine's set of file systems: /dev/sd1a /LocalApps 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 assuming you want the disk mounted as /LocalApps. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Will there *ever* be a new version of SpiderWoman? Date: 16 Feb 1997 21:25:43 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5e7u0n$7th@juliana.sprynet.com> I haven't heard *anything* about SpiderWoman for a long time. The Web page (http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman) still says that "A new version of SpiderWoman will be released" -- but as far as I can tell nothing has been updated since June 1995. Anyone know anything? -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
From: sams@best.com (Samuel G. Streeper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Starting Apps from the command line Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:44:32 -0800 Organization: BEST Internet Communications Message-ID: <sams.856233728@shellx> References: <7xlo8nzhb5.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: >How do I open OmniImage (or any other viewer) and OmniWeb from the >command line with a file name as argument? No, I don't want to go via >Services. One of these will tell you how to open things in another app or window: man open terminal -help cheers, -sam
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Will there *ever* be a new version of SpiderWoman? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 23:51:03 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <33094347.1FB18CAB@screaming.org> References: <5e7u0n$7th@juliana.sprynet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dayne Miller wrote: > I haven't heard *anything* about SpiderWoman for a long time. The Web > page (http://sente.epfl.ch/~swoman) still says that "A new version of > SpiderWoman will be released" -- but as far as I can tell nothing has > been updated since June 1995. > > Anyone know anything? I sent them some fan mail after the acquisition to ask if they intended to dust-off this project. I got a very nice reply saying that I wasn't the only curious person, and that other projects were getting higher priority -- but that there was a possiblity that it would continue now that the potential market just became much larger. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
From: Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: BackSpace trouble Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 15:25:03 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Howdy, I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I came across the screensaver package BackSpace last night, and installed it in my user account, and everything seemed to work fine. However, when I tried to add modules (SpewView, Polyfrog, etc.) from the same ftp site (next.peak.org), I kept getting errors of "Couldn't load dynamic class" or something of that nature. The program recognized that the modules existed, as I had placed them in the correct directory under library (BackSpaceViews), but would not load any one of them. If anyone has any idea as to why this is happening, and/or knows how to fix it, I would be greatly obliged if you would share such information. Thanks for your time. sean +*********************************************************************+ | Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads. --TMBG | +*********************************************************************+ stwillis@uiuc.edu <-----------------> willboy@arh0215.urh.uiuc.edu http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/stwillis **Want me in the Oval Office?? Vote Willis in 2012!!**
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:57:50 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5edflu$1cj@news-central.tiac.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: >Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: >: I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal >: error, seems to be some socket stuff). >: I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, >: I would appreciate some advice. > >I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came >out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. > >I just can't keep up. *sigh* > >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed >strategically. > Guys do you both use gcc that comes with OpenStep or what? Thanks, Aleksey.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:47:13 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: samba functionality on .. by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think > the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank > Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under > /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. If you're motivated, you could always configure the software as you see fit and release it to the Internet at large. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:10:29 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. I download SpiderWoman, but it does not support frames. What else is available that will do the trick. Is there a faq that describes the options? I recall seeing one but cannot remember where I saw it. thanks a NeXTSTEP newbie Brandon Cue bcue@students.uiuc.edu
From: dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 16 Feb 1997 21:14:53 GMT Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in 8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when dithered down that far. Any help on this would be much appreciated. -Dayne Miller daynem@excell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: C compiler question Message-ID: <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:41 GMT In article <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) writes: > Greetings, > > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler > (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? > Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 > or is it a problem with the path? > > Thank you for any help. > > > Chris > <cchris@hooked.net> Hi Chris, do you have the Nextstep developer packages installed (correctly)? Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: NewsGrazer : downloading all newsgroups? Message-ID: <E5syDK.2M3@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:17:44 GMT In article <5e848g$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi. Is there anyway to stop NewsGrazer from loading all newsgroups down from > the host nntp machine every time it runs? I am subscribed to half a dozen > newsgroups and don't want to waste the time it takes for NewsGrazer to build a > list of 10,000 newsgroups. Cheers, > > Jeff Richmond Hi Jeff, try changing NewsGrazer's default view in preferences from browser to list. Perhaps this will prefent it from downloading the article list. I haven't tried this, but perhaps it helps... Robert. ========================================================================= Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:47:48 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5edt54$mko$4@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> <5edflu$1cj@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov <zander@conextions.com> wrote: : >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed : >strategically. : Guys do you both use gcc that comes with OpenStep or what? It builds with both cc on NS 3.3 (which is a little more up to date than the version number suggests) and with gcc 2.7.2.2. Personally, I like NeXT's cc for most situations for numerous reasons. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace trouble Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:52:23 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218195049.19235A-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> On Tue, 18 Feb 1997, Jickmeister wrote: > Howdy, > I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I ^^^ I meant 3.0 User (BareBones Vervion). Sorry for any confusion. Thanks. sean +*********************************************************************+ | Everybody wants prosthetic forheads on their real heads. --TMBG | +*********************************************************************+ stwillis@uiuc.edu <-----------------> willboy@arh0215.urh.uiuc.edu http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/stwillis **Want me in the Oval Office?? Vote Willis in 2012!!**
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 19 Feb 1997 04:36:46 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> References: <msg32838.thr-1e8712.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5e0et2$i78@news3.digex.net> On 02/13/97, John Kheit wrote: >I think the best one is Netsurfer's... I second this recommendation. NetSurfer has the coolest FTP GUI... Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: 19 Feb 1997 08:52:00 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <5eeevg$i25@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes > On 02/13/97, John Kheit wrote: > >I think the best one is Netsurfer's... > > I second this recommendation. NetSurfer has the coolest FTP GUI... > > Robert > I prefer Yftp. And: it's FREE and comes with source code. Robert (the Fischer one) -- ----- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Scanners and software Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 13:41:09 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <330A8456.192B@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <856286891.17325.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk wrote: > > I was wondering if there are any scanners that work with a NeXT slab. > I was particularly thinking of a scanner such as Visioneer's > PaperPort. I primarily want to just scan documents. Also what software > would be needed to do this and if I also wanted to do any OCR what > software is available Please check out following web site. Image scanning: http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html ScanOmatic is an easy-to-use scanner software for most of the popular desktop scanners and NEXTSTEP computers. SUPPORTED SCANNERS ================== HP ScanJet: II, IIc, IIcx, IIp, 3c/4c Umax: UG80, UC300, UC630, UC840, UC1200S, UC1260 VISTA S6, VISTA S8, PS2400 PowerLook, T630 EPSON: GT-6000, GT-9000 (verified) 300,600,800,1000,4000,6500,8000 (not tested) HSD: color, mono XRS: RSU-1, x-ray scanner Oce: G60XX and G60XX-S series AGFA: Arcus II NIKON: FS-1000 slide scanner RICOH: IS410, IS420 A3 large size Bell+Howell: 4000 F, 5000 F A3 large size And any scanner with a compatible mode to one of the above listed. ocr scanning: http://www.gscorp.com/ eXTRASCAN eXTRAREAD younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 00:19:05 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5ee60p$bie$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> writes: >Daniel M. Burckhardt <burckhar@arch.ethz.ch> wrote: >: I gave it a try last week - without success (compiler reports a fatal >: error, seems to be some socket stuff). >: I haven't spent much time yet to look at it. If someone got any further, >: I would appreciate some advice. >I have it built (0.8) for m68k. Two days after I built it, 0.8.2 came >out, and that has m68k JIT support for A/UX. >I just can't keep up. *sigh* >BTW, the socket thing is fixed with an #include <libc.h> placed >strategically. I hope you meant 0.8.1, David, unless you're way ahead of the rest of us. :-) I tried again with 0.8.1 and haven't found any socket problems so far, only cc -g -O -DNO_SHARED_LIBRARIES -I. -I. -I./../../config -I../../config -I../../include -DTRANSLATOR -I./jit -DKVER=\"0.81\" -c external.c external.c:32: header file '../../packages/external_native.h' not found *** Exit 1 Stop. Oddly, I couldn't find any references to external_native.h anywhere else in the package, so I'm temporarily stumped for now, since I don't have much time to look at it. Maybe tomorrow, though. (i386 NS3.3p1) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 18 Feb 1997 23:49:16 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> Hello, I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called and where can I get it? Thanks --erik
From: michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de.no.spam (Michael Pieper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 18 Feb 1997 11:37:23 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5ec49j$130@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: >I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm >not able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if >there are different used protocols. I have no problem to start a talk session from my NeXTstation to my Linux router and vice versa (both on the same network of course ;-) ). I'm using standard talk and talkd of NS 3.2 and it seems to be a Berkeley 4.2 talk on the Linux system. 'man talk' says: The version of talk(1) released with 4.3BSD uses a protocol that is in- compatible with the protocol used in the version released with 4.2BSD. This could be the reason for your problems. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: Lars Immisch <immisch@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:13:06 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <3309AAE2.7BBA@pobox.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: Paul Doornbusch <pauld@koncon.nl> Paul Doornbusch wrote: > > Hello All, > > Please excuse me is this is something everyone else knows about, but I > would like the sort of functionality that I think Samba gives on NS 3.3. > I have a few PC's hanging off our net (we mostly have NS and Mac's - > thanks Frank for Cap), and while they network well between themselves > with Windoze software, the users would like similar functionality (ie > disk and printer sharing) from the host. Samba - ftp://nimbus.anu.edu.au/pub/tridge/samba - compiles on NS 3.3 without problems. You have to edit the Makefile, but there is a section explaining what you have to do for NS 3.x. If you follow them, it should compile fine. > Is there a package out there to help? Not as a package... But it's easy to build. > Please CC my private mail address on replies. > Thanks a lot, > > Paul Doornbusch Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 19 Feb 1997 14:29:08 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) wrote: > >I'm looking for a way to send faxes from my cube (NS3.2) and my USR Sportster >modem. The sportster is not supported by NXFax ! > >Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured >bundle somewhere for download ? > Try using JollysClass2FaxDriver (sending Faxes only) or OlafAM (sending Faxes, receiving Faxes, receiving data calls, answering machine). Both are shareware and available on peanuts.leo.org or its mirro ftp.evolution.com Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: samba functionality on next? Date: 19 Feb 1997 01:13:30 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5edk3q$ljg@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970217190149.304B-100000@koncon> <In2ETny00iWVIFs1co@andrew.cmu.edu> <Pine.NXT.3.91.970218131550.4160A-100000@koncon> <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <kn2Xy1y00iWSMDUcE8@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.software: 18-Feb-97 Re: samba > functionality on .. by Paul Doornbusch@koncon.n > > NFS is not what I wanted, an SMB server is really the answer. I think > > the package http://www.this.net/~frank/samba.pkg.tar.gz from Frank > > Siegert will do the trick, I just wish it could be installed under > > /usr/local instead of root - not a big deal. > > If you're motivated, you could always configure the software as you see > fit and release it to the Internet at large. > Will happen hopefully soon. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:00:37 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) wrote: >I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually >run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in >8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when >dithered down that far. dwrite <appname> NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray I'm not sure if there's also command line version for this. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Date: 19 Feb 1997 04:35:22 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5edvua$311@news2.cais.com> References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> It's something like: % dwrite OmniWeb NXWindowDepthLimit TestEightBitRGB -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 19 Feb 1997 14:16:10 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not > able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there > are different used protocols. > > Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or > something else? What to do? You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over other talks. ;-) Bernhard
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:52:33 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5ef7k1$m78@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In article <3308B884.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> writes: |> ldbuchho wrote: |> > |> > Hi, |> > |> > does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my |> > NeXTstation-Computer? |> > |> > Thanks |> |> I'm using teTeX, have a look at Gregor's page: |> |> http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ |> |> |> |> stefan There is a NeXTTeX package on the OS distribution CD-ROM. Works great, but it's probably still LaTeX 2.09. Get LaTeX2e off the 'Net (finger ctan@ftp.tex.ac.uk for a list of archive sites). -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 15:48:25 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: IT Connections <mail@it-connect.com> Newsgroups: uk.jobs.offered,uk.jobs.contract,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT's Web Objects/Enterprise Objects Job - London based. Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:55:00 +0000 Organization: IT Connections Distribution: world Message-ID: <$DHk4GAUJyCzEwjn@it-connect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 NeXT's Web Objects/Enterprise Objects Job - London based. Anyone out there like a job? This is an excellent opportunity to work for one of the coolest companies in the Universe. A developer is required to spearhead the commercialisation of their Web site. This will involve creation of both backend objects via data from an Oracle database and creation of front end dynamic pages using NeXT's Web Objects and Enterprise Objects and HTML. Contractors maybe considered for this role. Salary top pay Contact Andrew Akhurst for an informal discussion or mail CV to him. IT Connections Tel: 01525 840123 98-100 Dunstable Street Fax: 01525 840899 Ampthill Email: mail@it-connect.com Bedfordshire URL: http://www.it-connect.com MK45 2JP
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 19 Feb 1997 17:13:54 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5efcci$f6n$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5eap5a$178@news-central.tiac.net> <33096797.41C6@arch.ethz.ch> <5echgi$931$4@darla.visi.com> <5ee60p$bie$1@Venus.mcs.net> Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : I hope you meant 0.8.1, David, unless you're way ahead of the rest of : us. :-) I tried again with 0.8.1 and haven't found any socket : problems so far, only Heh, I just checked ftp.sarc.city.ac.uk, and all they have is 0.8.1. However: To: Kaffe announcement list <kaffe-announce@sarc.city.ac.uk> Subject: [RELEASED] Kaffe 0.8.2 Guess tjw got mixed up. :) : Oddly, I couldn't find any references to external_native.h anywhere : else in the package, so I'm temporarily stumped for now, since I don't : have much time to look at it. Maybe tomorrow, though. (i386 NS3.3p1) Weird, it should never get external_native. The VM core should be smart enough to use mach-o/rld.h instead. Hmm. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 17:15:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm285-08.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5efcf2$n15$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Cc: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de In <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: > > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. > > Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? > > Bye > Uli > Ooops!?! Nothing more that it locks up the machine. Cyrix is not 100% compatible with Intel. Bye Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5vBFr.GA2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 20:55:03 GMT References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5ef4il$1das@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>, Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > >dwrite <appname> NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray > >I'm not sure if there's also command line version for this. > I've used the command line version (under Motorola). You can use any mode (for example I run Terminal.app in TwoBigGray). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help Installing Software Date: 18 Feb 1997 14:08:47 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ecd5g$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <byrnejbb-1102972215530001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> <5dt4k6$m08$2@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: >ln -s /Quantum270mb/NextApps /NextApps >... > >ln means "link". -s means "symbolic". without the -s, it tries to >make a hard link, which can't be done on directories. .. if crossing file system borders. Directories can still be hard linked (via the link ystem call), but it should be avoided, as it's easy to create a mess. Of course, in this case, it's a cross-device link, so it has to be made a symbolic link. I once had to deal with machine with a directory that contained an entry that was a hard link to itself :-) Ah, the olden days. Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Why won't my Color Turbo Station power down Date: 18 Feb 1997 20:42:17 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <5ed479$ctm@mozart.jlc.net> I really do love my color turbo. Problem is, whenever I try to reboot it or shut it down, it hangs, necessitating a break to the ROM monitor, and a 'bsd' from there. I'd like to skip this,. Does any know why it might do this? Thanks in advance. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Scanners and software Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <856286891.17325.0@scmolec.demon.co.uk> I was wondering if there are any scanners that work with a NeXT slab. I was particularly thinking of a scanner such as Visioneer's PaperPort. I primarily want to just scan documents. Also what software would be needed to do this and if I also wanted to do any OCR what software is available Thanks for any help email me!! --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mighty Maomoondog <cdouty@netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Terminal App [was Re: Question on NS 3.3 User] Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:52:18 GMT Organization: Dis Message-ID: <5eg3ni$335$1@news.aimnet.com> References: <01bc1a45$c1a346a0$682273c6@s2-nl-lynnh> <5e278u$5pi$1@athena.ulaval.ca> <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> Cc: bcue@uiuc.edu In <33054F9E.3DD3@uiuc.edu> Brandon Cue wrote: > I have NS 3.3 User for Intel and need a good terminal application to > dial into my isp sot that I can download some NeXT stuff. Does anyone > have a suggestion? I'm quite happy with TipTop.app from TipTop Software. PO Box 30681 Bethesda, MD 20824, USA Tel/Fax: +1 (301) 656-3837 I believe that they also have a website at http://www.tiptop.com/ The app should be about $100. They might have an academic discount. They also produce some really nifty programming tools (obj-Perl, obj-TCL). -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Richard Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Looking for Animo software/manuals Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:49:33 -0800 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Message-ID: <330B675D.52A4@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am posting this for a friend. He is desparately in need of the above mentioned items. Reply to mail below. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle Programmer/Analyst rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702190903.AA00410@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 10:03:48 +0100 Subject: Q: Rhapsody interaction with NeXT- and Openstep (or: Will Rhapsody feature NetInfo?) (AppleStep) have NetInfo)? Hi there NeXT and AppleStep - folks, there are tons of question which arise about the new "AppleStep" (Rhapsody), but the most immanent one I have is: Will Steve build NeXT inside of Apple? Just kidding..... 8-) (all of us know he actually does so! (Whoooooow!!!! 8-))))) What I really need to know is: ** question version 0.8 (alpha) ** Can I use a Rhapsody 500Mhz AppleMac as Fileserver for NeXTSTEP / OpenStep clients of all colors (black NeXThardware, Sun Sparc 20s, Intel Boxes w/ Openstep)? or to put it the other way around: ** question version 0.9 (beta) ** Can a NeXT/NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system based on the above mentioned hardware serve a Rhapsody client?? But maybe the best way to ask this question is: ** final coding v1.0 (shipping now!) ** Will "AppleStep" (Rhapsody) feature NetInfo??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file ownership Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:48:03 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm having a problem with file ownership. My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . Example: /dev/sd1a is mounted as /LocalApps and contains all of my Local Applications (logically). This disk and its contents should be owned by the system - root. However when I do: ls -la / |grep LocalApps I get drwxrwxrwt 50 dave 2048 Feb 17 15:45 LocalApps/ Similarly if I do: ls -la /LocalApps |grep SoftPC I get drwxr-xr-x 18 dave 1024 Jan 19 1996 SoftPC.app/ Now what is confusing me is that these files were initially installed by root and if I change ownership of them by doing: chown -R root /LocalApps chown -R root /LocalApps/SoftPC.app and chown root /LocalApps/* chown root /LocalApps/*/* etc.... eventually the damn files return to my ownership. So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702192059.PAA11031@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 34a1130a62abb6b977f6dba24a44d306 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 15:59:17 -0500 Subject: NeXT's cc (was Re: Java support) Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 34a1130a62abb6b977f6dba24a44d306 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Original Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:47:48 GMT > Personally, I like NeXT's cc for most situations for numerous > reasons. pray tell why? Unquenchably curious TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 200 Mhz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: 20 Feb 1997 06:09:30 GMT Organization: Sympatico Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egpqq$28i$1@news1.sympatico.ca> We are having some difficulty getting NS 3.3 to boot properly on a 200 Mhz Dell Pentium with a builtin S3 TrioV+ video chip. Installation was perfect, but if you let the machine do a normal boot, the OS cannot find the video chip. However, if you boot with a "-v" at the boot prompt all is well ( I think ). It seems that 3.3 times out before all the hardware is registered in the OS. BTW, 4.1 is perfect. If anyone has any suggesttions or help please respond by email to the address below. Thanks in advance -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road, Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: "steven kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Multiple email accounts + PopOver.app+ NeXTMail Date: 20 Feb 1997 07:48:13 GMT Organization: kornreich communications inc. Message-ID: <01bc1f02$6b4aef80$f2d49ace@pro200.papio.com> I have multiple pop mail accounts which I need to check on a daily basis.. Is there a way to use PopOver and NextMail so when I set up multiple PoverOver pop accounts that they all make it into NextMail but sorted into different MailBoxes in NextMail? Thanks Steven Kornreich steve@eps.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Message-ID: <E5uxop.61r@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:58:01 GMT In article <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) writes: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two > applications I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are > nowhere to be seen whenever I start both applications. > The menus remain hidden the whole time I use these > apps. The only way I am able to see the menu is by > using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke > that I perchance might have used that caused the main > menus from both apps to remain invisible? How do I > get back these menus? > > Thanks for any help. > > Vicki Bragin > > > -- > ********************************************************** > Victoria M. Bragin > Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College > 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 > Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 > E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) > vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu > vbragin@ix.netcom.com > vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us > vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu > ********************************************************** Hi Vicki, a possible solution to your problem could look like this: double-click on the preferences (clock) icon in your dock and open the menu preferences. There you'll see a little screen where the menu position of your application can be changed. Just drag it back into a visible area. Perhaps this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: marsella@alto.isi.edu (Stacy Marsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Sequence.app problem Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:25:46 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egu9q$baj@alto.isi.edu> I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in the Console window: Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data Any Suggestions or Clues? Thanks Stacy Marsella
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From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:53:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehs1u$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) wrote: > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler >(c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? >Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 >or is it a problem with the path? Please obtain a copy of the NeXT FAQ, which is available from http://www.peanuts.org/. Under NEXTSTEP, gcc is called cc. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:59:12 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehscg$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: (snip) >I've been playing with wrapping Kaffe in ObjC and a .app since version >0.5, and it's becoming increasingly more awkward as the sources >define their own Object, Class and Method structures which class with >NS's. Doh. When I run into something like that, I simply #define Object XObject ... in a .h file read by the C/C++ source (or use a -D compiler flag). Does the trick for me. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:05:47 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> wrote: >I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel >that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving >monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called >and where can I get it? Thanks AFAIK even NeXT's default Screensaver does so (at least it works with my machine), but several pieces of the PC hardware must support it. The monitor must have power saving turned on, and I think it also only worked in 8 bit graphics (I have an ATI m64 card, so YMMV). HTH, C -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: New user Help questions on UNIX Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:46:11 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5ei2l3$4g8$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I have a Color station, running version 3.0, While looking at and downloading some files from the archives using my PC, then transferring them to disk to the NeXT. alot of files have a .gz format, i have opener, when i open these files, some are in a .tar, or.pkg or .app and are executable by clicking or opener opens them, like a .tar file. etc...however some .gz files produce what looks like a program listing that give a UNIX terminal icon. these when clicked on load into the editor. when i type the name of it (as in DOS) i get a bunch of error messages. Do these type of files need to be compiled or what is needed to turn it into an executable file. thanks very much.. ..also how do you delete a file in UNIX what is the command like dos's del ?
From: BELA SEFCSIK <sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Tcl7.6 Installation Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:44:09 GMT Organization: The University of Western Ontario, London, Ont. Canada Message-ID: <5ei9i9$60k@falcon.ccs.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I am trying to setup Tcl7.6 on NeXTSTEP 3.2 for Intel processor, but it hiccups when it gets to tclUnixFCmd.c file. Can anybody tell me how to get around this problem and maybe give me a step by step procedure to do a successfull installation. If you have a compiled, tarred distribution, I would be glad to use it also. Thanks. Bela Sefcsik sefcsik@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: dkramer@bifrostworks.com (Daniel L. Kramer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config v 3.37 Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:31:05 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <5ei8pp$e3t@news.blkbox.com> References: <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> In article <5e9rrq$dpe@news.next.com> tfrey@.next.com (Tony Frey) writes: > Get the newest one from NeXTAnswers. > Is there a mysterious way of which I am not aware to directly download config files? :-). I sent him a copy, but it _would_ be nice if one were somehow able to download floppy images with common drivers necessary for installation already in the proper format. Cheers! Dan > In article <5e54tp$lm2@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> > randyj@lubra.sbs.ohio-state.edu (Randy Jackson) writes: > > I believe I need a newer version of the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config > than the > > one on the 3.3 installation disks. If anyone hase v 3.37 or later, > could you > > please NeXTMail me a copy? Thank you. > ---------------------------------------------- > Tony Frey tfrey@next.com > NeXT Premium Support http://www.next.com > ---------------------------------------------- -- Daniel L. Kramer Bifrost Workstations, Inc. 10850 Richmond Ave., Suite 270 Houston, TX 77042 (713) 952-9949 voice
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Feb Quiz - last call (+hints) ! Date: 20 Feb 1997 20:52:55 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5eidj8$5i5@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS February quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is Feb 27. ========= ATTENTION ========= Acc. to the very low number of correct answers so far, this month's quiz question seems to be way more difficult to solve than I've initially thought. So here's these *hints*: 1) The item in question is about the smallest one in the given picture - besides the grass and the sand, of course. 2) The item in question is close to invisible in the given picture. But everyone who has ever had to do anything with photography and/or image manipulation apps will know at first sight how to restore the given picture to the original version. The winners - as always drawn by my nieces - will receive a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license! Or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: file ownership Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:12:33 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egff1$btg@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: : I'm having a problem with file ownership. : My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. : However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . : This is because the file system on the second and third drives are mounted at the time you logged in. The WorkspaceManager sets the owner to the user logged in at the time. To solve your problem, you need to set the file systems to be mounted at the time of booting up. This can be done by adding entries in the file /etc/fstab like /dev/sd2a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota noauto 0 1 (this is my fstab entry, my /Users directory is on a seprate disk) where the /dev/sdXa and /"MountPoint" should be changed to match your configuration. Look at "fstab" man page for more helps. !!Caution!! A mistake can cause the machine to be unbootable! Edit /etc/fstab file carefully! Enjoy! -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: american@mail.tds.net (Charles C. Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Trying to toss my Cookies -- OmniWeb style Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:56:09 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <5eih9p$2ar@news2.tds.net> Hello everyone, Does anyone know of away to disable Cookies in OmniWeb? I researched their website listserv archive and could not find an answer. I have tried to link /dev/null to the Cookies file with no luck. Other then dumping the Cookies from the cookie jar every time, I cannot think of away to rid myself gosh awful fatting Cookies that keep filling up my cookie jar. ;^) Charles -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Charles C. Hocker american@Mail.TDS.Net ASCII, MIME & NeXTmail american@aztec.asu.edu "Food is Power. We use it to change behavior. Some May Call that Bribery. We Do Not Apologize." Catherine Bertini, executive director, UN World Food Program, Beijing, China, UN 4th World Conference on Women, Sept. 1995. ---------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Ted Erck" <terck@invensys.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: IntegraView - Software to manage NEXTSTEP network computers and the applications they execute Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:28:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc1f7c$f405ae30$54a720cc@eagle> InvenSys Ltd. of Houston, Texas would like to introduce to you a product specifically designed to manage NEXTSTEP network computers and the applications they execute with unprecedented ease. IntegraView allows you to proactively prevent network disasters by monitoring critical system resources, ( CPU load, disk space, etc. ). Through its easy click and drag capabilities you will be able to remotely reboot machines, automatically restore critical processes and launch processes. We invite you to visit our Invensys web page at http://www.invensys.com for your FREE demo download.
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: BackSpace trouble Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:37:06 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5eggt2$ofl@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.970218151645.17600B-100000@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> Jickmeister <stwillis@ehhpx33.cen.uiuc.edu> writes: > Howdy, > I recently purchased a NextStation mono 8/105 running NS 3.2. I > came across the screensaver package BackSpace last night, and installed > it in my user account, and everything seemed to work fine. However, when > I tried to add modules (SpewView, Polyfrog, etc.) from the same ftp site > (next.peak.org), I kept getting errors of "Couldn't load dynamic class" > or something of that nature. The program recognized that the modules > existed, as I had placed them in the correct directory under library > (BackSpaceViews), but would not load any one of them. > If anyone has any idea as to why this is happening, and/or knows > how to fix it, I would be greatly obliged if you would share such > information. Thanks for your time. > > sean Probably because they're compiled only for Intel. Do the modules delivered with BackSpace run? __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:16:30 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <tobu9fgm2p.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: > > Erik Evensen <erik@avalon.harvard.edu> wrote: > >I'm wondering if there is a screen saver for NS3.3 on Intel > >that supports blanking the screen such that an energy saving > >monitor will go into power saving mode. If so, what's it called > >and where can I get it? Thanks > > AFAIK even NeXT's default Screensaver does so (at least it > works with my machine), but several pieces of the PC hardware > must support it. The monitor must have power saving turned on, > and I think it also only worked in 8 bit graphics (I have an > ATI m64 card, so YMMV). > Hi, Thanks for the response. Someone else suggested BackSpace set to black. So far as I can tell neither of these is working for me. The monitor definitely is doing powersaving 'cuz it'll do it when I power down the CPU. I am set at 16bit color so I'll try changing that and see what happens. --erik
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:32:14 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> >thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (Thomas Funke) wrote: >> >>I'm looking for a way to send faxes from my cube (NS3.2) and my USR >Sportster >>modem. The sportster is not supported by NXFax ! >> >>Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured >>bundle somewhere for download ? If you follow the instructions in docs/mgetty.texi, mgetty-1.x compiles nicely with NEXTSTEP. Ok, I forgot to write about using "make noident", but that's really all. Working, well, ... I haven't tried to send faxes lately, but there was a time when that worked for me (you may also have a look at Kevin Peckover's ps2g3 frontend on peanuts, or my attempt to adopt it to mgetty-1.x, in ftp://zarquon.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/pub/NeXT/testing). Receiving faxes should work also, but is not integrated into the NEXTSTEP fax system. About vgetty, I don't know. It's still very in flux. A compiled package... well, perhaps I should try to do that, but compiling is really not that hard. Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: latex for OS 4.1? Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:32:22 GMT Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany Message-ID: <5eift6$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> References: <5d9pjb$oek@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5dd0b9$4fj@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5dnnjq$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> On 10 Feb 1997 17:58:18 GMT, Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: >Certainly not.. but that was not the case, at least not with the >tar file and instruction set _I_ had. > >And no, tetex is not available as a pkg, either. It would be great >if somebody could build one! When I tried tetex installation two >weeks ago, it came with an install routine, which printed a >cryptic error message during some intermediate step, and simply >terminated without giving any useful hints as to what might have >been wrong. Now tetex might be a very nice piece of software, but >that is certainly not the comfortable, simple installation that >Nextstep users are normally used to. > >So, if some kind sould has tetex running, and knows the incantations >required to build a package, I'm sure it would be appreciated by >many Nextstep users. Pay me for it, and I'll do a package! ;-) Just a joke. I thought about distributing a teTeX.pkg, but for myself decided that a pkg had so many drawbacks that it won't be worth the effort. teTeX's installation process is indeed very straightforward and is intended to be really--sorry--idiot proof. If it crashed for you, it's probably my fault by failing to list some prerequisites for NEXTSTEP. And yes, the documentation _is_ complete, but a concise QUICKSTART section would be nice. The problem with packaging teTeX in an Installer pkg is that quite a few goodies of teTeX's installation scheme are hard to map on pkg's (selective installation of packages, heterogeneous network installations, etc.). teTeX installation routine _is_ stable and tested and _is_ easy to use. Nevertheless, it's flexible enough to serve novices as well as sysadmins. teTeX is regularly updated. `Minor' updates are distributed as shell scripts; installing an update is nothing more than starting the script (how do you map this with pkg's ?). Like the installation process, configuration is done with a menu-driven script. Configuration does include things like setting up hyphenation tables for languages (ever tried to setup LaTeX and swedish with NeXTTeX ?), default paper formats etc.pp. a) Simply packaging the stuff into one big pkg archive won't unburden the user of running interactively through some of the configuration stuff. In the case of updates, the user had to re-fetch a new big archive, and install it from scratch. Doing this kind of pkg won't be big work for me, but are you sure this is what you want ? Imagine refetching 10MB every three months, having to reconfigure the stuff from scratch. NeXTTeX didn't face this problem, since there never was any update. b) IMHO, if you want to provide a pkg distribution based upon teTeX, the most important thing would be to write a TeXconfig.app that replaces texconfig. Then, distribute the stuff in separate packages (teTeXbase, teTeXgoodies etc.pp.) and come up with a decent way to distribute the updates. Only then, the user could setup teTeX without using the shell. But then, this is work. And it has way to go to be as stable as Thomas' scripts. And you had to hope that there's always somebody that keeps the packages in sync with teTeX. Anyway, I'm really glad to discuss this stuff, and if enough people tell me that they are glad with Plan a) and that's all they want, I'll gladly prepare such a package. What I wrote above is just my own, certainly biased impression. Furthermore, if you have any problems with the installations, please tell me (even if you managed to solve them on your own). I hope I could talk Thomas into including a README.NEXTSTEP that contains a QUICKSTART section. Installation is really not that hard. Hmm, Christian, could you tell me when the install.sh script failed, which system you were running on etc ? teTeX 0.6 is not far away ;-) Gregor PS: As mentioned in teTeX-FAQ Q.22, http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX contains information about TeX (esp. teTeX) for NEXTSTEP, including pointers to the most recent releases of teTeX and TeXview for teTeX. -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: kc@criamon.omnigroup.com (Ken Case) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: www browser with frames besides OmniWeb Date: 19 Feb 1997 16:41:36 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5efag0$91f@gaea.titan.org> References: <5edgdl$l2p@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <5ef7c9$p9d@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: : root@sambo.uiuc.edu (Operator) wrote: : > I have a Cyrix based motherboard and as such cannot use OmniWeb. : Ooops!?! What has the processor to do with OmniWeb??? Nothing, really. OmniWeb itself has no knowledge of what processor type it's using (the same source runs on 4 architectures, after all), so there's nothing that OmniWeb is doing which would crash a Cyrix processor and not an Intel--other than as a side effect of exercising more of the NEXTSTEP operating system than other applications do. It appears that this is either a bug in the Cyrix processor (in that they're clearly not exactly compatible with the Intel 486, Pentium, and Pentium Pro processors which do work fine), or possibly in NEXTSTEP (depending on whether NeXT claims to support the Cyrix processor--as far as I know, they only support genuine Intel processors). I suspect that the Cyrix incompatibility is somewhere in the NEXTSTEP kernel's thread support. OmniWeb 2 is (as far as I know) the only commercial heavily-threaded application, which would explain why Cyrix users are not having trouble with other applications. (I believe Digital Librarian and DarkForest also make some light use of multiple threads, Cyrix users might try exercising them to see whether they also have problems.) Assuming this is in fact the problem, the only thing we could do in OmniWeb 2 to solve this problem is to stop using threads, which I'm afraid isn't really an option for us. (Cyrix users can always use OmniWeb 1.0, of course, which isn't multi-threaded and apparently runs great.) If I were owned a Cyrix CPU, I'd either contact NeXT (to see if they want to solve this problem by modifying their kernel) or Cyrix (to complain that their CPUs aren't 100% compatible). -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: C compiler question Date: 21 Feb 1997 00:11:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5eip70$hhv$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Cc: robert@onevision.de In <E5syDH.2LE@onevision.de> Robert Wunderer wrote: > In article <5ea1nf$6n5@its.hooked.net> cchris@chum.hooked.net (Chris > Christensen) writes: > > Greetings, > > > > I am new to NeXT and to UNIX. When I try to use the C compiler > > (c++ filename) I get the message "gcc:not found." What does this mean? > > Does the GNU C compiler need to be "installed" on a NeXT system with 3.2 > > or is it a problem with the path? > > > > Thank you for any help. > > > > > > Chris > > <cchris@hooked.net> > > Hi Chris, > > do you have the Nextstep developer packages installed (correctly)? > more importantly, did you try looking for cc instead of gcc? Even though NeXT's compiler is gcc based, they call it "gcc" for historical reasons. (Also, you can go out and get a newer edition of gcc if you want, and install it as gcc). -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: tom@icgned.nl (Tom Hageman) Subject: Re: Launching windows w/ different color depths? Message-ID: <E5uywB.xL@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: IC Group References: <5e7tcd$78f@juliana.sprynet.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 16:24:11 GMT dayne@excell.com (Dayne Miller) wrote: >I know that NEXTSTEP supports this, but how? For instance, I usually >run in 16-bit mode, but I'd love to have some OmniWeb windows open in >8-bit mode so I can determine if my graphics and colors will look when >dithered down that far. In a Terminal window: dwrite OmniWeb NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray ...and restart OmniWeb. Or, directly: <wherever>/OmniWeb.app/OmniWeb -NXWindowDepthLimit EightBitGray & (This and other information about generally available defaults, can be found in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextDev/GeneralRef/_ApB_Defaults/Defaults.rtf, which is probably only present on a developer system...) [There used to be a WindowDepth.preferences module to handle this window depth stuff a while back, but last time I looked I could not find it on the next ftp archives. Email to the author's address, as given in the panel, bounces (His name eludes me at the moment since I only have itat home). So basically I'm still looking for a MAB (at least NI) version...] -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.nl> (work) __/__/__/ "Any magic sufficiently advanced is indistinguishable __/ _/_/ from a perl script" -- Larry Wall, mangled
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199702202042.VAA00234@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:42:00 +0100 Subject: NS colors... Ciao... It's possible to change the background and the text color of the documents in Edit.app ? (dev mode, ascii file) After a not so long period of time this high contrast blow my eyes !! :(( BTW: I'm using NS3.3 --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.emacs.xemacs Subject: Xemacs compilation problem Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:56:35 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Message-ID: <slrn5gn0ed.aqd.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In my question to get an emacs which will font-lock in a NeXT terminal windows, I'm almost there. I am compiling with -with-x=no and fixed a trivial problem with xemacs looking for termio.h when there was only termios.h to be had, and now I'm almost there. However, one of the final linking stages pukes looking for ___morecore, which appears to be something internal to gnu malloc (NeXT's malloc is used instead). (I also removed an extraneous linker flag.) any pointers? It seems that XEmacs was actually compiled for NeXT once upon a time, but I can't find it anywhere. The 19.13 source on informatik doesn't build. Thanks for any help, Paul Brown -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Sean Hafeez" <hafeez@adnc.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: SMTP + X Sessions Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:25:15 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <01bc1eb3$5a9dc6c0$238ad8cd@thanatos.adnc.net> To quick questions: Can someone point me to a SMTP/POP GUI email client for NS3.3 Intel and also a X Session client - I have a SGI box that I want to run a X Session off of. Sean Hafeez American Digital Network
From: marsella@alto.isi.edu (Stacy Marsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Problems with Sequence.app midi sequencer Date: 20 Feb 1997 19:43:10 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ej5ke$d58@alto.isi.edu> I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in the Console window: Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data Any Suggestions or Clues? Thanks Stacy Marsella PS: My apologies if you received this message twice. I am struggling with a new news posting program.
From: waiming@cs.ust.hk (Chan Wai Ming) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Help: anyone who is using Dial On Demand with GateKeeper Date: 20 Feb 1997 01:13:48 GMT Organization: The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <5eg8gc$s87@ustsu10.ust.hk> References: <5ea691$gfj@ustsu10.ust.hk> <5eag17$iij@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> Hi Felipe, Thanks for responding to my problem. I have checked with the mail queue and its empty. When I replace the "named" in 2.1b5 with the named in 1.0a. Everyting (including DoD) is working fine for me. Just don't know why this happens :p Now, my configuration is OS/Mach/Intel + Gatekeeper 2.1b5 + named(included in Gatekeeper 1.0a). Thank you for writing Gatekeeper ! Really like the 2.1 ver. :) yours waiming Felipe A. Rodriguez (far@ix.netcom.com) wrote: : >Hi, : > : >I'm also having trouble with DoD in GateKeeper 2.1 b5. My problem is that : >it is always triggered to have a PPP connection even if I don't use any : >network prog. : > : >Any hints for me to setup Dod ??? : > : You probably have undelivered mail in the queue. The queue is : processed at regular intervals, if there is undelivered mail : sendmail will trigger a dial on demand session as it attempts : to deliver the mail. : The minor mods that I made to the named daemon do not filter : lookups so any name lookup for which the local nameserver is not : authoritative will trigger a dial on demand session. : >Thanks a lot ! : > : >yours : >-- : > After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... : > / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. : > \ \ \ : > ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user : > \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk : -- : Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from : Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was : # armed; his successors, since they avoided : far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private : (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. : (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli -- -- After working with DOS, Windows, OS/2, Linux, SunOS, NT, 95 .... / / / I find myself like NEXTSTEP most. \ \ \ ------ It is tea, not Java :) A Happy NS user \____/> waiming@cs.ust.hk
From: Stacy Marsella <marsella@isi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: confused about bundles Re: Sequence.app problems Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 09:13:56 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Message-ID: <330DD7D4.6EBA@isi.edu> References: <5ej5ke$d58@alto.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bundle experts, riddle me this.. Stacy Marsella wrote: > > I am having a problem with Sequence.app v0.9.8 (the version at CCRMA) > on a nextstation (nextstep3.2). The eventlist view does not work. > When I hilite a partname and select Eventlist from the Part menu > nothing happens except the following error message gets displayed in > the Console window: > Sequence[181]: Assertion failed: loadNIBSection: could not find data > > Any Suggestions or Clues? ... > Stacy Marsella I seem to have fixed this problem. It turns out EventList is a bundle and in the EventList.bundle subdirectory is its nib subdir, EventList.nib. Well I created a link to EventList.nib in the main directory of Sequence.app and now it is working. My question is why is it working? Do bundles have default areas in the app subdir where they are willing to look and for some reason loading on my machine is not looking there? Could there be absolute paths in the EventList code (I looked in the binary and didn't find any but I may have missed it)? Thanks, Stacy marsella@isi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu (Magnus Nordborg) Subject: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:43:19 GMT My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when generating the files. Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to work around the problems? -Magnus
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:53:26 +0100 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <we6k9o3mq2x.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> [talk linux-nextstep] just works here (with or without ytalk). perhaps further details should be posted. Ciao, Stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:40:38 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5eijt6$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) wrote: >In article <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de>, > scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > >> I'm currently in a mixed network with Linux, and NS machines. However I'm not >> able to use the 'talk' command between those machines. It seems as if there >> are different used protocols. >> >> Did anybody else experience this and is there a talkd replacement or >> something else? What to do? > >You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over >other talks. ;-) I already tried 'ytalk'. No help. There is some problem. The Linux machines are using the latest Linux release and I'm using OpenStep 4.1. It simply doesn't work. Any further ideas? Can I just e.g. compile the Linux sources? Any experiences? I don't want to fiddle with deamons too much ... The talk command stucks waiting for invitation on the callers machine ... Thanks in advance, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: question about news stuff Date: 20 Feb 1997 14:40:05 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5eicr5$qph@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, it appears that NDSU will be allowing posting to news groups over dialup lines next week. yay!!. anyway. I have a question about this. RadicalNews has an preferences option for a program to use to post. it's set to /bin/inews -h by default. can anybody recommend a decent package which has inews that can be used with RadicalNews for posting? Thanks Andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Next shareware/freeware-- where? Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:01:53 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5ehshh$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5eadum$goj@park.interport.net> humanist@interport.net (Michael Howard) wrote: >Where can one find good Next-intel-3.30 shareware/freeware? www.peanuts.org. NeXT really should put an easy to find pointer to the FAQ on their Web site. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 19 Feb 1997 23:42:52 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970219225701.RAA08071@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: modem terminal application Date: 22 Feb 1997 08:01:46 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Message-ID: <5em95a$cfm$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <3306A857.58A2@uiuc.edu> <5eaode$178@news-central.tiac.net> Aleksey Sudakov (zander@conextions.com) wrote: : Brandon Cue <bcue@uiuc.edu> wrote: : >I was wondering if there is a good modem app to dial into to my isp so : >that I can download ppp and other goodies and get my box connected to : >the internet. Any suggestions???? : Ain't tip good enough for you? I use kermit with the following ".kermrc" script: -------------------------------------------------------------------- set line /dev/cufa set speed 38400 set modem hayes ask \%n Number to dial? dial \%n :loop if SUCCESS goto connect redial goto loop :connect connect --------------------------------------------------------------------- This script assumes your modem is connected to serial port A, and that you need to lock the port to 38400. To transfer files, I have the following alias: alias zget 'rz -eb </dev/cufa >/dev/cufa ; fg ' I suspend kermit by typing in CRTL-] then CRTL-Z, type in "zget" off the command line, and the file transfer takes place, and returns you to kermit when the transfer completes. It's not the most elegant solution, but it's quick and easy to implement. I hope this helps. -- /**************************************************************************/ Masahiko (Sam) Sugawara email: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
From: richard@seuss.math.wright.edu (Richard Mercer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Which X server? Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:53:56 GMT Organization: Wright State University Message-ID: <5ehs2k$q5p@mercury.wright.edu> References: <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Cc: willi@marvin.aaa-plus.com In <5dv1kq$e0f@news.Austria.EU.net> Wilhelm Pitzeier wrote: > > There seem to be two commercial products (co-Xist and CubXWindow) as well > as two shareware packages (Xnext and MouseX). > > Please email any experiences to me, I will post a summary of all replies. > > Willi > > Does any know for a fact that either of the two commercial products is still available? If so, can you point to somewhere where it can be purchased? All my old links to these products are nonfunctional. -- Richard Mercer richard@seuss.math.wright.edu "I meant what I said and I said what I meant, An elephant's faithful, one hundred per cent."
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Java support Date: 20 Feb 1997 23:49:42 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5einum$ns6$2@darla.visi.com> References: <330245D2.6277@stevens-tech.edu> <1997Feb15.153601.596@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e8ei0$51g$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5e8ij6$857$2@darla.visi.com> <5ehscg$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > When I run into something like that, I simply > #define Object XObject > ... > in a .h file read by the C/C++ source (or use a -D compiler > flag). Does the trick for me. It's not a linker clash. If I did: #define Object XObject #import <objc/Object.h> Would that work? Eh, I just did a global search and replace on the code, but.. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: fucuco@hamlet.net (Good Friend) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:30:13 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Control: cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Fri Feb 21 15:14:41 1997 Original subject was: Learn to Make $$$FAST CASH$$$ With Honest Work
From: jbn@pop-a-wheelie.midwest.net (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) Subject: GNKSA/U review of RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta Organization: Organizing Organisms & Organs Followup-To: news.software.readers Summary: RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta fails to meet the GNKSA/U requirements. Message-ID: <slrn5gqei1.1c7.jbn@pop-a-wheelie.midwest.net> Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 00:01:46 -0600 RadicalNews v0.8.10 Beta, a GUI newsreader for NeXTSTEP, FAILS to meet the requirements for the Good Net-Keeping Seal of Approval for Usenet software. RadicalNews information is available from http://www.radical.com. The following pertains to RadicalNews version 0.8.10 Beta. There are a number of significant problems with RadicalNews, to list them all would take far too much space. Suffice it to say, I can not recommend this software for public use at this time. I make no exception regarding reviewing publicly accessible beta software; if the developers did not intend for this application to be critiqued, they should not have released the software to the public. RadicalNews' problems range from annoying to dangerous. The problems include: * Obviously bogus From: and Reply-To: headers are accepted without question. [See point 11 of the GNKSA/U evaluation and footnote 10] * Automatic (timed) polling for new news is an unnecessary drain on NNTP server resources. It is wholly unnecessary in newsreading software intended for use by humans. * No automatic probing for efficient overview commands. * The app crashes frequently (making this review difficult). * A number of necessary menu items are no-ops. * RadicalNews features a Usenet thread display that does not track Subject: header changes. This nullifies the work of posters who put the effort into making sure the Subject: header remains faithful to the actual subject of the post. * RadicalNews is single-threaded. All article gathering makes the user wait. * There is no article cache. Re-downloading articles means downloading them from the news server. * It is easy to lose work due to poor UI feedback. RadicalNews lets the user close windows or quit without saving unsaved work. * It is easy for the user to accidentally make RadicalNews very busy gathering unread article counts, in effect monopolizing the application due to the aforementioned single-threadedness. * There are a number of unusual and broken UI implementations in RadicalNews which make for haphazard and slow newsreading. * There are various problems involving automatic reconnect after the NNTP server disconnects due to timeout. Required? Item Description OK? Notes --------- ---- ----------------------------------- --- ----- YES 1 Display all essential header info NO YES Default is to display: NO YES a) author of article (From:) YES YES b) the first 70 chars of Subject: YES (1) YES c) full listing of posted groups YES YES d) article's Followup-To: list YES YES e) article's Reply-To: NO YES 2 Provide standard commands YES YES Provide clear commands YES YES Provide separate commands YES YES a) post a new article YES YES b) post a followup article YES YES c) reply by email YES NO Use standard terminology YES (2) YES 3 Implement cross-posting YES YES a) allow user specification YES YES b) cross-post not multi-post YES YES 4 Change essential headers YES (3) YES change headers while editing body YES YES change Subject YES YES allow at least 70 chars in subject YES YES change Newsgroups YES YES change Followup-To YES YES allow Followup-to: poster YES YES change Reply-To YES YES 5 Correct Subject headers in followup/reply YES (4) YES a) prepend Re: YES YES b) preserve entire Subject even subjects > 80 chars long YES YES 6 Respect Followup-To: NO YES use to initialize Newsgroups: in followup YES (5) YES recognize and act on `poster' NO YES 7 Followups contain References YES (6) YES contains message-id of original YES YES never truncate individual message-id YES NO contains three Refs from original YES NO contains entire Refs of original YES YES 8 Direct email reply to Reply-To NO (7) YES 9 Quotation and attribution YES YES a) provide method YES YES b) set off by prepend YES YES c) attribution line YES YES identifies author YES NO gives message-id YES YES 10 Subject is mandatory NO (8) YES a) do not post empty or provide <none> NO (9) YES allow change while editing body YES YES 11 Must provide valid From: header NO (10) YES a) syntactically valid NO YES b) disallows posting without valid info NO NO c) belongs to the user NO YES 12 Must provide cancel NO YES a) of own articles NO (11) YES b) *not* of others ? (11) NO 13 Respect line length & post WYSIWYG NO (12) NO a) line brks shown are present in post YES NO b) do not post paragraph w/o line brks YES (13) NO c) warn if body has lines > 80 chars NO (14) NO d) external editor conforms NO (12) NO 14 Prevent obvious errors NO (15) NO a) prevent posting empty article NO NO b) prevent posting only quoted text NO (1) RadicalNews can use a proportional font to show the Subject: header. How much of that header is shown depends on the width of the viewing window and the width of the rendered subject. In this review, reasonable values were chosen -- Helvetica Bold 12 point. 74 characters of a very long Subject: header were seen with the default window width. (2) Although this terminology was not mentioned in the GNKSA/U spec and is not as important as the spec's examples, RadicalNews does employ some obscure shortcuts for the following headers: References: ("Refs"), Expires: ("Xpire"), Message-ID: ("Msg ID"), Followup-To: ("Follow"), X-Newsreader: ("Reader", making this X-header look like an RFC-approved header, which it is not) and what I assume is Received: (shortened to "Rcvd"; what this header is doing in the UI is a mystery). All other headers are grouped in the UI as "Other" which is a scrollable list. (3) Custom headers (such as X-no-archive: yes) can not be added during post or followup and apparently there is no method for including static custom headers in the application preferences. (4) In fact, RadicalNews includes the CC: line (not an NNTP header) in the post if you "followup and reply" (i.e., forward a copy of the article via e-mail as well as post). I don't find this CC: notification particularly useful in the post, but it does not violate the GNKSA/U spec. I do find it useful that e-mail "courtesy" copies include a note indicating the article was also posted (and the groups to which it was posted). (5) In fact, RadicalNews does this blindly; if "Followup-To: poster" is set in an article, RadicalNews attempts to followup to that article with "Newsgroups: poster". (6) Fortunately, RadicalNews keeps the References: header pristine, recording the Message-IDs perfectly. Unfortunately, the UI doesn't wrap the display of the References: header, so the user is likely to only see 2-3 Message-IDs. (7) RadicalNews doesn't use the Reply-To: content and fall back on the From: content. Instead, it uses From: all the time. (8) RadicalNews had a problem with a test article posted during GNKSA/U evaluation. The subject appeared fine in the header view but the thread view listed the subject as "<NO SUBJECT>". (9) RadicalNews posts articles with a one-space Subject: header (i.e., "Subject: ", note the two blanks after the colon). Any header that is all whitespace should be considered empty. (10) RadicalNews posts articles with obviously invalid From: headers (such as "x" or the null string). Apparently RadicalNews performs no reasonable testing on such headers. (11) RadicalNews will not cancel articles posted with other newsreaders, even if the headers on the articles clearly match the From: header configuration. I couldn't find another article posted with RadicalNews in a local unpropagated test group, so it remains unknown to me whether RadicalNews will cancel other people's RadicalNews articles when the From: header configuration matches the From: header in the article. This unknown does not affect the GNKSA/U evaluation, because RadicalNews failed point 12a. (12) RadicalNews uses an internal editor. It has full control over how that editor wraps the article before it is posted, therefore one expects RadicalNews to be able to alert the reader on items 13, 13c and 13d. (13) RadicalNews needlessly adds two carriage returns to the end of every post. On followups, RadicalNews places the cursor just after the last quote mark, which can make the first line of original text appear quoted (if the user is not careful): > This is original material although it looks quoted. This is how the the second to last lines appear (unquoted). Also, RadicalNews will post articles containing only quoted data. (14) Without warning, RadicalNews word wraps all input which precludes posting articles exceeding 80 characters per line (with the default setting). RadicalNews accepts any wrap margin without warning (even wrap margins beyond 80 characters). Followups quoting long lines are not rewrapped and quoted according to the current wrap margin setting; long lines remain long. During testing, the requoting mechanism caused the app to crash. (15) RadicalNews offers a dangerous option if a posting is rejected by the NNTP server -- "Abort program". Pressing this button shuts down RadicalNews instantly, losing all work in progress in all RadicalNews windows.
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT-desktop Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:35:27 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2202971735270001@elmer.box.nl> Please let me introduce myself. My name is Jan van Die and I work for a small Macintosh magazine in Holland, called MacFan. I am looking for some screenshots of the NeXT-desktop (windows, icons) to illustrate a story about Steve Jobs coming back to Apple. Can you help? To make things worse: We are finishing the magazine tomorrow. A quick response would be highly appreciated. janvdie@box.nl Ofcourse I will send you the magazine. That 's a collectors item, isn't it?
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Date: 21 Feb 1997 20:15:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ekvog$b7s@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Cc: magnus@darwin.uchicago.edu In <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Magnus Nordborg wrote: > My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files > that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator > claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates > PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and > advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when > generating the files. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to > work around the problems? > > -Magnus > This is not true. Save your PS file as 'normal, device independent PostScript' using the print panel, and they should work on most any output device or use the PPD for your desired printer. To verify conformance of your PS files you can use 'pscheck' as available from my homepage. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: Mathematica 2.2 Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:40:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5enlkl$q5v@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: mathematica wtb : mathematica 2.2 academic version. please contact me thro' e-mail. thanks, hs
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: registering with the New York Times via OmniWeb Date: 23 Feb 1997 01:50:59 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5eo7q3$oj5@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Has anyone else had trouble registering with the NYT online? (http://www.nytimes.com/) Using OmniWeb 2.5b2 I get repeated authentication windows without any progress in the authentication process. Probably a glich on their end (seems to spawn two authentication processes at the outset). -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________ Nuclear weapons are inherently dangerous, highly expensive, militarily inefficient, and morally indefensible General Lee Butler, who would not be quoted in The Times
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: (Repost) Shared object libraries (rld) using OpenStep 4.1 Date: 21 Feb 1997 23:07:38 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5el9rq$21v@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <5ef797$m78@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> OpenStep 4.1 for Mach question: Some C code I'm compiling and putting into a shared object library (via ld -r) for later dynamic loading (using rld) is now refusing to be loaded. I've begged and pleaded, but to no avail. The error I'm now getting is something like "cannot use rld with dynamic shared libraries." Since all the "standard" libraries (e.g., libsys_s.dylib) are now dynamic shared libraries, are the rld routines no longer usable? I can switch to use dyld routines and use libtool--is this what I should do? Can someone point to some documentation (man pages aren't telling the complete story) that discusses rld routines under OpenStep 4.1? Also, I noticed that we can no longer build static executables, since there are no static "standard" libraries. Try compiling the "Hello, world" program using the -static compile/link switch. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: screensaver for energy saving monitors Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 08:58:06 Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Message-ID: <5ejkis$19i6@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> References: <tog1yto0xf.fsf@avalon.harvard.edu> <5ehsor$1nq3@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> No, it has nothing to do with the res/color-deepth. This feature works also with 8Meg Mill. in 32b/pix. No problem at all. The only task is to enable the stuff in the BIOS *and* under NeXTStep. You have to take care that *only* the screen saver works not the whole bunch of energy saving utilities. If You enable all, the computer is freezed after your defined time and do nothing, saving 10Watts more in my case (And dissipate the remaining 70Watts for buzzzzzzzz...ing). I think this is something that makes no sense for a UNIX machine. Henry
From: recurve@resourceful.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 03:48:08 GMT Organization: Rosenzweig Investments Message-ID: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> I get the following: xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) xombi.wizard.net> I'm using Terminal.app, any suggestions? --- Son of Ginger and Harry, Aaron Rosenzweig http://www.wam.umd.edu/~recurve/ recurve@resourceful.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702211804.NAA09328@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 13:04:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Multiple email accounts + PopOver.app+ NeXTMail Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "steven kornreich" <steve@eps.com> Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 07:48:13 GMT Message-ID: d23d31ae5e7a0d84181955bcf2bf82ee - > I have multiple pop mail accounts which I need to check on a daily > basis.. Is there a way to use PopOver and NextMail so when I set up > multiple PoverOver pop accounts that they all make it into NextMail > but sorted into different MailBoxes in NextMail? Sure, use PopOver to deliver to |/usr/local/bin/formail -e -s procmail and use procmail and appnmail (from mailapp-utilities) ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/procmail.3.11pre4.NIHS.bs.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/mailapp-utilities.1.7.NIHS.bs.tar.gz the recipe could be as simple as SHELL=/bin/sh MAILDIR=$HOME/Mailboxes/ # all messages to "steve" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Steve.mbox * ^TOsteve |appnmail Steve # all messages to "other" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Other.mbox * ^TOother |appnmail Other # all messages to "third" will go to ~/Mailboxes/Third.mbox * ^TOthird |appnmail Third The ^TO macro will catch `(^((Original-)?(Resent-)?(To|Cc|Bcc)|(X-Envelope |Apparently(-Resent)?)-To):(.*[^a-zA-Z])?)' which is pretty extensive. If you need more info on procmail, see the man pages or drop me a note. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Why won't my Color Turbo Station power down Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 22 Feb 1997 08:20:42 GMT Organization: Edmonton FreeNet, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Message-ID: <5ema8q$5e8$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <5ed479$ctm@mozart.jlc.net> The Rev. James David Meacham (jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net) wrote: : I really do love my color turbo. Problem is, whenever I try to reboot : it or shut it down, it hangs, necessitating a break to the ROM : monitor, and a 'bsd' from there. I'd like to skip this,. Does any : know why it might do this? Thanks in advance. Peace, : James There may be a process which is refusing to die. You may try to find out if that is the case by verifying if it's a daemon process (system programs that waits for a specific event to occur on the NeXT) by powering up the machine, and trying to shut it down once the login box appears. If it does power down ok, you are probably using a program as a user which refuses to die. Otherwise, try powering up in single user mode, and then try to power down. It's been a while since I've done this, but I believe it's "bsd -s" off the ROM monitor. If you are able to power down at this point, there is a program being launched from an rc file (/etc/rc, /etc/rc.boot, /etc/rc.local) which is hanging. Try to log in remotely into your machine as root, and kill each root process except your login shell, from the largest PID to the smallest (because killing pid 1, which is the init process is a fast way of getting unix to reboot). Standard disclaimers apply. -- /**************************************************************************/ Masahiko (Sam) Sugawara email: sugawara@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: help with station boot problem Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:54:20 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970223005400.TAA11861@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: Kerry <bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT Apps. Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 04:01:12 -0600 Organization: Academic Computing and Information Services Message-ID: <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone out there have any idea if there is a web browser or any other cool stuff for the NeXT Box? It runs Mach 3.0. Thanks, Kerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702221903.AA01528@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 97 20:03:14 +0100 Subject: Rhapsody prototype has been seen at MacWorld Tokyo (from www.MacInTouch.com) Hi there NeXTfolks, I tought you might enjoy this: Apple engineers demonstrated Mac applications running under a Nextstep/Rhapsody prototype, and George Graves posted a summary to (comp.sys.mac-) Usenet: "With the ink not yet quite dry on the NeXT/Apple merger, Apple had an employee "show-n-tell" today (Feb 18, [1997]) in which they showed Mac System 7.X apps like Photoshop 4.0 running on BlueBox under NeXT-Rhapsody! This is VERY encouraging. The system seemed stable, they ran several apps including MS Word and Excel, shared info between them and copied files on the YellowBox side while doing so. Nothing crashed. While very optimistic, the demonstrator stressed that there was still much work to be done before a DR is ready in May for WWDC, but that they will make it." (from www.MacInTouch.com on Feb. 20th, 1997) Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news ---
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Date: 21 Feb 1997 10:03:16 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5ejrt4$718@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> In article <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) writes: > >Did someone manage mgetty+sendfax running/compiling ? Any preconfigured > >bundle somewhere for download ? I've got mgetty+sendfax-1.1.1 going on NS3.3 I've managed to configure things to do both incoming and outgoing faxes going with shared networking fax support so you can send and receive faxes on any networked NEXTSTEP machine connected to the faxserver. (Received faxes is done via NeXTMail to a designated admin.) I've had some problems with Kevin Peckover's ps2g3 conversion barfing on some of my more intense Postscript so I'm still futzing around with that. In the meantime, you could try Olaf Mueller's ps2tiff converter from his newam-0.2 package on ftp.leo.org in pub/comp/platforms/next/Communication/programs. It seems to work better, but doesn't come with source and it looks like Olaf is taking the commercial route with it. Once I clean the scripts up a bit I'm happy to contribute it to the mgetty distribution, but in the meantime, send me a note and I'll help you with what I've got so far. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: cmsg cancel <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Control: cancel <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Date: 23 Feb 1997 01:13:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ep1no$ol7@slip.net> <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> was cancelled from within trn.
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Re: Is Mathematica 3.0 available for NS 3.3 on black hardware? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:32:07 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Yes, Please visit http:/www.wolfram.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: news@tpgi.com.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Date: 23 Feb 1997 08:17:33 GMT Control: cancel <01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Message-ID: <cancel.01bc2157$c63eb140$2e991dcb@bkc.tpgi.com.au> Sender: "Tom Burgess" <burgess@tpgi.com.au> Posting in violation of terms-of-service. Cancelled by news@tpgi.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: EOF - Oracle Support Message-ID: <E60w1n.3y1@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 21:08:11 GMT In article <5e85dj$pe9@join.news.pipex.net> jrichmond@i-way.co.uk (Jeff Richmond) writes: > Hi. I've been told that I need EOF to support connections to > Oracle on another server. Is this true? The DBKit seems to > imply that one can use SQL*Net 2 style connection descriptors > ... alas, I don't know where to put the tnsnames.ora file that > define these connections. How can DBKit establish this connection > without SQL*Net? Has NeXT licensed code from Oracle and built > their own SQL*Net infrastructure? Cheers, > DBKit only works with Oracle 6. You need EOF for Oracle 7 connections. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.next.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:02:00 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5eoffo$gin@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Cc: bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu In <330EC3E8.5AA5@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu> Kerry wrote: > Does anyone out there have any idea if there is a web browser or any > other cool stuff for the NeXT Box? It runs Mach 3.0. > Thanks, > Kerry > Here are the main NeXT software archives: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next ftp://ftp.evolution.com/pub/next/ To get OmniWeb, a great Web browser, go to http://www.omnigroup.com/ It's great to see someone at Vanderbilt interested in NEXTSTEP. I used the Macs in the public cluster and the OS/2 PCs in the Med library there last summer, and it was very hard to get anything serious done. The Mac is going to have a whole new life soon... -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,sci.math.symbolic Subject: Re: Is Mathematica 3.0 available for NS 3.3 on black hardware? Date: 23 Feb 1997 12:57:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm166-19.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5eper8$6fe$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5eoru1$jmv@slip.net> <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Cc: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr In <33100076.5584@soback.kornet.nm.kr> younghoon KIL wrote: > Yes, Please visit http:/www.wolfram.com > > > > younghoon KIL > ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr > http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai > (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean) > It runs quite well considering how complex the program is. Acoring to the documentation you need at least 12MB RAM for Mono and 24 MB for Color NeXT workstation, but I have 20MB on Color and it runs fine. There is no academical version available for NeXT, as far as I know. Good luck, Mma 3.0 is a lot of fun compared to 2.2 -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Strange: Main menus nowhere to be seen Date: 18 Feb 1997 18:37:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5ecstg$t67@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5ec0jq$cer@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) wrote: > For the last several weeks, the main menus of two applications > I use (specifically Mesa and Edit) are nowhere to be seen whenever > I start both applications. The menus remain hidden the whole > time I use these apps. The only way I am able to see the menu > is by using the right mouse button. Is there any keystroke that > I perchance might have used that caused the main menus from both > apps to remain invisible? How do I get back these menus? They wouldn't have moved due to a keystroke. You'd have had to drag them to the new position. The quickest way to get them back might be to: quit Edit and Mesa. open a unix shell in Terminal.app Enter the commands: dremove Edit NXMenuLocations dremove Mesa NXMenuLocations quit Terminal.app See if Edit and Mesa work better. There are some GUI interfaces to the defaults database, so you wouldn't need to bother with the Unix window, but I don't remember what they are. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: carl@norumrez.usask.ca (Carl Norum) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 23 Feb 1997 18:26:22 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which could help me out? Thanks a lot. Carl Norum carl@norumrez.usask.ca (NeXTmail preferred.)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:30:51 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or http://www.bifrostworks.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: gsupport@mttam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Attention Apple, Sun and NeXT developers Date: 23 Feb 1997 19:59:32 GMT Organization: VVI Data Control Specialists Message-ID: <5eq7j4$qdo@news4.digex.net> Originator: gsupport@ Attention Apple, Sun and NeXT developers. Start your participation in the OpenGraph Gamma Program now and receive ... 1. Proven OpenGraph technology used now by the largest OpenStep customers to monitor billions of dollars worth of products. 2. No-fee technical support via e-mail, no-fee use of the OpenGraph gamma version during the gamma program, and no entrance fee (its free). 3. Free commercial copies of the GraphBuilder** application for ALL computers in participant's company, and one copy of OpenGraph-Developer** and OpenGraph-User*** sent to participants at the end of the gamma program. OpenGraph is successful because we make it a win-win situation for everybody involved. This gamma program is yet another example of that approach. To take advantage of this offer act now by contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. _________________________________ PRESS RELEASE: OpenGraph/OpenStep Gamma Program VVI Data Control Specialists (VVI-DCS) 311 Adams Ave. State College, PA 16803 Attn: OpenGraph Coordinator 814-234-9613 ; 888-DCS-OPEN gsupport@mttam.com State College, PA, 20 January 1997: VVI-DCS announced an expansion of its OpenGraph on OpenStep gamma program. If your business is interested in gamma testing OpenGraph please contact VVI-DCS at gsupport@mttam.com. "We've been working on the OpenGraph/OpenStep port for about a year now." said John Brilhart, Chief Technical Officer at VVI-DCS. "Our customers are reporting complex data sets from global real-time data feeds up to 500 events per second. That type of data reporting requires reliable and optimized report software. The gamma program is an important final part of our total quality control of the OpenGraph port." John adds, "The improvements and new features accompanying that port ensures our commanding lead in the high-end data reporting markets. With OpenStep and OpenGraph we provide compelling and unique solutions which have market advantages for our customers. For that reason we've always been fully committed to OpenStep on all platforms and have been working with NeXT and Sun for quite a while. We expect to apply the same level of commitment to the Apple version of OpenStep when it becomes available." About VVI-DCS: VVI-DCS, founded in 1989, builds custom OpenStep based data report and acquisition systems for the financial service, manufacturing, pharmaceutical and biotech industries and is the leading supplier of high-end data report software for the OpenStep market. About OpenGraph: OpenGraph is a framework of Objective-C and C++ objects for reporting data in graph and textual formats and consists of a graph building application and pre-built objects. OpenGraph accepts real-time feeds from any source and serves as a graphing front-end for real-time financial analysis, transaction, production and inventory analysis, database systems, and instrumentation. OpenGraph is fully object-oriented and is well suited to systems which require reliability, exacting specifications and performance. OpenGraph Status (OpenStep Versions): OpenGraph V3.3a is running in gamma mode in these configurations: (1) Solaris/OpenStep, (2) Mach/OpenStep V4.1 on SPARC/Intel/NeXT computers, (3) Windows NT V4.0/OpenStep. A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program. OpenGraph Status (NEXTSTEP Versions): The OpenGraph V3.2k CD is available for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. OpenGraph V3.2m is available on DAT and a contract basis for NeXT, HP PA-RISC, SPARC, and Intel computers running NEXTSTEP V3.2 or V3.3. _________________________________ A non-disclosure agreement is required for participation in the gamma program. ** no-license-fee commercial use license. ***no-license-fee and royalty-free commercial use license. (C) Copyright 1997 VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS); All rights reserved. OpenGraph, GraphBuilder, VVI Data Control Specialists, VVI-DCS, and VVimaging are trademarks of VVimaging, Inc. (VVI-DCS). NeXT, NEXTSTEP and OpenStep are trademarks of NeXT Software, Inc. Sun Microsystems and Solaris are trademarks or registered trademarks of Sun Microsystems, Inc. in the United States and other countries. All SPARC trademarks are used under license and are trademarks or registered trademarks of SPARC international, Inc. in the United States and other countries. Intel is a registered trademarks of Intel. Microsoft and Windows are registered trademarks of Microsoft, Inc. Windows NT is a trademark of Microsoft, Inc. All other trademarks and service marks belong to their respective owners.
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT-desktop - THANKS! Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:13:27 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2302972213270001@douwe.box.nl> I received a lot of screendumps of the NeXT-desktop. They certainly arrived in time for my story about the Apple/NeXT. Thank you all very much! Internet is great for a journalist in need of information!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E62tLv.5wv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:10:43 GMT References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca>, Carl Norum <carl@norumrez.usask.ca> wrote: >Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part >of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of >doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we >just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which >could help me out? Thanks a lot. > 3DReality is pretty nifty. Visit http://www.stone.com/ to learn more. And, for a little while, you can get all of their great software for a rediculous low price. Just a happy customer. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sheppard.gordon@moondog.com (SHEPPARD GORDON) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: MOTOROLA 300-MHZ PPC Message-ID: <8D292FD.09B80001E1.uuout@moondog.com> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 97 12:45:00 -0400 Distribution: world Organization: MoonDog BBS, Brooklyn, NY, (718) 692-2498 MOTOROLA PREPS 300-MHZ POWERPC CHIP Apple expected to tap 603E series for its line of PowerMacs, PowerBooks 02/24/97 ComputerWorld Motorola, Inc. next month plans to release a 300-MHz 603E PowerPC microprocessor, which Apple Computer, Inc. is expected to use in future PowerMacintosh and PowerBook models. The Schaumberg, Ill., company plans to unveil the chips at CeBit next month in Hannover, Germany, a Motorola executive said last week. Apple hasn't publicly said it will upgrade its desktop and notebooks to the processor, but Paul Clark, European marketing and communications manager for Motorola's RISC group, said such a deal is expected. The 603 series chip will be the fastest chip Motorola has ever released. Motorola has previously announced its plans to manufacture a 300-MHz 603 microprocessor, but until now the company hasn't indicated when the chip would be available or which systems manufacturers would use it. UP FOR ADOPTION Clark said Apple is considering building a system around a forthcoming version of Motorola's 620 PowerPC processor. Groupe Bull is expected to adopt the upgraded 620 chips in its line of Unix servers. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is. inctly: "The chip is in bipolar-based CMOS. Bipolar transistors are dialectically isolated with trenches and bonded wafer oxide." George Taylor, chief technology officer at Exponential, said he could not confirm or deny the use of SOI technology. A spokesman noted that the company has about 20 patent applications pending. CMOS transistors Another source said the bipolar transistors, some 700,000 of them in the X704, gain performance from the use of SOI, while the CMOS transistors used for L1 cache do not go below the relatively thick silicon layer. The air-cooled X704 draws 80 to 85 W, which can be handled by a slightly more expensive power supply and an additional fan and heat sink. "The performance is pretty impressive, and that's what counts," said Peter Glaskowsky, a senior analyst at MicroDesign Resources (Sunnyvale, Calif.). "Who cares about the power consumption, as long as you can take care of it?" The Exponential design is expected to help keep Apple competitive among the customers that use Apple hardware for desktop publishing, Quark-based pre- press, photo editing, and other applications. Martin Mitchell, an independent systems integrator working in Tokyo, said the demonstrations of the systems based on the X704 running at 450 MHz were impressive. Joe Barta, a marketing manager at Exponential, said Apple and vendors of core logic are working to speed up the system bus from 50 MHz now to 83 MHz and, later, 100 MHz. Other companies are developing a dual-port cache controller that will serve to isolate the speedy processor from the relatively slow external bus speeds. Apple chief executive officer Gil Amelio, at a press conference here, said systems based on the Exponential processor will be ready by the end of this year. While other companies have offered competitive desktop systems that also may use the X704, Apple is the only announced company behind an X704-based design. Asked about Powerbook licensing, Amelio said Apple is not ready to open up its Powerbook line to cloners. "At this time we can sell all of the Powerbooks that we can make, and that is sort of a competitive advantage for us. Near term, we don't plan to open up licensing," Amelio said. Amelio said he could not comment on how many staff positions will be cut at Apple over the next month or two, but said that "next month we need to take out about $400 million of cost on an annual basis." -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is. e Java Compiler, and Microsoft also gives you a choice of either the Apple Java Virtual Machine or Metrowerks Java Virtual Machine. If you choose to use the Metrowerks Java Virtual Machine, you'll save memory because it loads pages when asked and automatically unloads them from memory when you're finished viewing. NAVIGATOR 3.0 Netscape's Navigator browser is a set of online Macintosh tools that integrates E-mail, newsgroup discussions and WYSIWYG Web-editing functions. All that is only in the 3.0 Gold version, however; there are other versions with lower price tags and lesser feature sets available as well. Navigator is available for 16 different platforms and requires 7 megabytes on your hard drive. Like Explorer, Navigator provides you with a customizable, feature-rich environment in which to work. Navigator runs Java applets. In addition, it supports JavaScript 1.1, QuickTime, .AVI, QuickTime VR and VRML 1.0 via Plug-Ins, in-line streamed sound via RealAudio Plug-in and most recognized sound formats, such as .WAV, AIFF, AU and MIDI for multimedia viewing. It also supports the most commonly utilized image formats. The main news and mail features include NNTP News reader, POP3 Internet Mail and multiple news server support. Security is provided through 128-bit encryption, SSL 3.0, site and server authentication, and support for wildcards. Customizing Netscape is accomplished easily by selecting specific preferences located under the Options pull-down menu on the toolbar. Some of the choices you can make include which function to launch on start-up: the browser, mail or news; tool-bar view; pictures, text or both; and the frequency of link expiration. TCPCONNECT4 NET Developed by InterCon Systems, this is a very powerful communications environment that performs several tasks using a single interface. It is relatively straightforward to install and configure, whether on a network or a single unit, and gives you four editions to choose from, depending on your needs. TcpConnect4 Net edition includes Web browser, FTP client/server, E- mail, Gopher client, Usenet news and Unix utilities, and is available for all Macintosh, Windows and Windows NT platforms. It requires 7.4 megabytes on your hard drive. We think this product is an ideal choice for telecommuters, education or corporate users who need mail and Internet/intranet tools because of the overall integration qualities present. Another outstanding feature of the TcpConnect4 Net edition that sounds mundane but has been largely discounted by other browsers is the E-mail spell-checking capability. This function has been given the importance it requires in a business application and is located in the Edit pull-down menu. TcpConnect4's future is unclear at this time because of InterCon's recent acquisition by Ascend Communications Inc., the Alameda, Calif.-based manufacturer of remote networking products. THE FINAL ANALYSIS You can expect the best browsers to give you more than just browsing ability. These four products all deliver tools that help you take advantage of the Web's rich content by customizing your Internet/intranet experience and by incorporating E-mail and newsgroup access, FTP and site editing or management features. All function slightly differently and have different strengths. To make the best choice, determine your individual needs and match them with a browser that meets those requirements. After all, it's still survival of the fittest. Cyberdog 2.0: Apple Computer Inc., 1 Infinite Loop, Cupertino, Calif. 95014; 408-996-1010; www.apple.com. Available free off-site. Internet Explorer 3.0: Microsoft Corp., 1 Microsoft Way, Redmond, Wash. 98052; 206-882- 8080; www. microsoft.com. Available free off-site. Navigator 3.0: Netscape Communications Corp., 501 East Middlefield Road, Mountain View, Calif. 94043; 415-254-1900; home. netscape.com. List price: $49 ($69 for Gold). TcpConnect4 Net: InterCon Systems Corp., 950 Herndon Parkway, Herndon, Va. 22070; 703-709- 5500; www.intercon.com. List price: $115. -> Alice4Mac 2.4.4 E QWK Hiya:05Nov94 Origin: ------------> QuickTime is on my side. Yes it is.
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:14:54 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> In article <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: > Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or > http://www.bifrostworks.com Hmm.. the former has some drivers though I don't think they're the right ones. However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that didn't work either. Any ideas? Thanks, -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: buzz@peninsula.starway.net.au (paul burrowes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: cadkey Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 02:08:54 GMT Organization: Starway Message-ID: <5eoq67$2jg$1@gunmetal.starway.net.au> can someone help I'm after some cadkey 7 cde modules and also a help file for the fastsurf v2.0 cde module . call paul if you can help!!! email buzz@peninsula.starway.net.au
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Should I get OS4.1 for Black or White? Date: 24 Feb 1997 04:37:57 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5er5v5$8li$1@news.crystalball.com> I know that OS4.2 is coming out in the summer, but I can't wait anymore and plan to get OS4.1 Academic bundle to start playing with it. And I'd prefer having it on my ND Turbo Cube, if the performance degradation from NS3.3 to OS4.1 is tolerable. I also have a PPro box I can use for OS4.1. So is there anyone developing in OS4.1 on black hardware? How slow is it? Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Success w/GS, remote printer on black? Message-ID: <ukv4tf2n4px.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:38:34 GMT Hi... I'm having some serious troubles. I'm trying to set up Ghostscript 4.03 as an input filter to a remote, networked printer (an HP LaserJet 5L, hooked up to an old 8086 DOS machine running a dumb LPD (i.e., I can't run a filter on that machine), which is ThinNetted to my 040 black non-turbo slab. I've tried several times to get this working directly via a serial connection, using a serial/parallel converter, with no luck (and I have other reasons for not wanting to do this as well). What I've got, basically, is a working (I think) GS 4.03 installation, and I've used NetInfoManager to set the input filter to run GS as a postscript filter. Now, I'm stuck. I know what I need to do is set up a dummy printer entry that points to the remote machine and printer, but how do I get the printer that has the if to pass its output to this dummy printer entry? I've tried running an output-filter script, but it didn't work, and I've also tried setting up the remote printing from the same printer with the if, but it ignores the if and passes the postscript directly to the remote machine, which is no good, since the 5L is a non-postscript printer. Can anyone offer any help? Thanks, Mark C. Langston -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: TeX and LaTeX for NeXTStep Date: 24 Feb 1997 07:14:32 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5erf4o$vbi@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <330869BE.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> ldbuchho (ldbuchho@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de) wrote: : : does anyone know, where I can get a TeX/LaTeX-Compiler for my : NeXTstation-Computer? ftp.dante.de (or any other CTAN node, 'finger ctan@dante.de' for more info). Go and grab full teTeX distribution with NeXT binaries. Do not forget about corresponding TeXview from contrib/next subdirectory. Run 'sh install.sh'. Enjoy! Michal
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:55:26 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: carl@norumrez.usask.ca I know that Cambridge Animation Systems' Animo runs on NeXTSTEP. It may be a little...NO, ALOT....more expensive for what you want. Here's the URL in case you win the lottery. http://www.animo.com
From: Augusto Rodrigues <asrodrig@fis1.fc.up.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Good GUI ftp client? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 12:44:33 +0000 Organization: Universidade do Porto Message-ID: <330D974F.35FF@fis1.fc.up.pt> References: <5ee00u$4j3@news2.cais.com> <5eeevg$i25@stern.fokus.gmd.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Fischer wrote: > > I prefer Yftp. And: it's FREE and comes with source code. > > Robert (the Fischer one) Does anyone know if Yftp can be set up to use proxies? My local network is behind a firewall. If so how? If not is there any other PD ftp client (preferably with a GUI) that allows the automatic download of subdirectories? Thanks in advance. A. Rodrigues
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP PostScript compatibility Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:08:37 +0100 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <331192D5.2781@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <970221114319.208AAFcH.magnus@darwin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Magnus Nordborg wrote: > > My colleagues using Solaris/SunOS have had problems printing .ps/.eps files > that I have generated under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. Their systems administrator > claims that the problem is that the NeXTSTEP printing engine generates > PostScript that is not 100% compatible with standard Adobe PostScript, and > advises me to look for ways to turn off "NeXTSTEP extensions" when > generating the files. > > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I can do to > work around the problems? > > -Magnus Yes I know this problem. Some NeXT Programms generate Vector coordinates with a resulution that is very high and just rounded by other systems to reasonable values. This may lead to "range check" errors for example if the extentions of a box is rounded to zero. See ghostscript output on the Not-NeXT systems. As far as I know ghostscript version 4.x behaves much more friendly. A work around might be to load the PS File to Tailor or OneVision and print it again into a preview file with the "device independent option". stef -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: 24 Feb 1997 13:55:36 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5es6ko$e1n$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net>, recurve@resourceful.com writes: > xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger > talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. > xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger > new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) > xombi.wizard.net> > > I'm using Terminal.app, any suggestions? Seems like it has something to do with your network installation. Especially with the support of symbolic domain names? (DNS) Try to ping the other host first. And try it with the IP Number then. Bernhard Reiter
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP!!!! Mail.app and CServe-Mail Date: 24 Feb 1997 19:00:47 GMT Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Message-ID: <5esogv$fg5$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! HELP! Does anybody know if I could use Mail.app with the mailserver of Compuserve, because they didn't have a pop/smtp mailserver. Does anybody know if there is a way to make use of the CompuServemailserver and how to configure my system to send mail to server and to get my mail from it ??? Any hints are wellcome. Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (sorry no nextmail)
From: vova@rtr.transit.ru (Vladimir Pilipyuk) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need koi8-r fonts Date: 24 Feb 1997 17:33:58 GMT Organization: Transit Newsgate Message-ID: <5esje6$pse@fido.transit.ru> Does any of you know where to get koi8-r fonts for NeXT? Please, replay by MailTo:vova@rtr.transit.ru Thank you, Vladimir -- NewsGrazer, a NeXTstep(tm) news reader, posting -- M>UQR=&8P7&%N<VE[7&9O;G1T8FQ<9C!<9FUO9&5R;B!#;W5R:65R.WT*7&UA M<F=L,3(P"EQM87)G<C$R,`I<<&%R9%QT>#$Q-3)<='@R,S`T7'1X,S0U-EQT M>#0V,#A<='@U-S8P7'1X-CDQ,EQT>#@P-C1<='@Y,C$V7'1X,3`S-CA<='@Q M,34R,%QF,%QB,%QI,%QU;&YO;F5<9G,R-%QF8S!<8V8P($1O97,@86YY(&]F M('EO=2!K;F]W('=H97)E('1O(&=E="!K;VDX+7(@9F]N=',@9F]R($YE6%0_ M7`I<"E!L96%S92P@<F5P;&%Y(&)Y($UA:6Q4;SIV;W9A0')T<BYT<F%N<VET >+G)U7`I<"E1H86YK('EO=2Q<"E9L861I;6ER"GT* `
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.mail.sendmail From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Subject: sendmail recipe requested Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.970224142728.1589B-100000@lipschitz> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 14:37:36 -0600 Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know a sendmail recipe that will convert user@sfasu.edu to user@TITAN.sfasu.edu ? I.e., I want to replace @sfasu.edu with @TITAN.sfasu.edu on any outgoing message. Thanks, kc P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu .
From: Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:51:10 -0500 Organization: analog.com Message-ID: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, I am new user to the Openstep Solaris scene. I have always dreamed of using NeXTstep. I have recently installed Openstep onto my sparc-station now that Openstep is finally available for Solaris. Unfortunately, I wasn't that impressed with Openstep/Solaris as some of the key features available in OpenWindows/CDE is not available in Openstep. Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the following environment. 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by just clicking onto a different display area. 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep removing my mail from /var/mail. I know that one could override the environment variables for one's preference. Question is how? I have checked the NeXT FAQ and it seems that one has to use dwrite followed by the environmental variables that one wishes to change. Anyway, I will continue to search for answers but I thought that experts here could help me out in my quest for answers. Any feedback or tip is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241324.IAA06346@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 08:24:18 -0500 Subject: Seeking: Jason Fosback Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Last known email address: jfosback@pscwa.psca.com He's the author of PopOver.app (among other things). Now I get "unknown host", there's no 'whois' information for his domain. Anyone know where he went?? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Need help on c-script Date: 25 Feb 1997 07:13:28 GMT Organization: FernUni Hagen Message-ID: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> Hello, I need help on the following c-script: >>#! /bin/csh set rootdir = /Net/honi/WWW-Disk/Public/wwwdoc # This is the root directory of the Web tree you want to index. set index = /usr/local/bin/wais-database # This is the name your WAIS indexes will be built under. # Index files will be called index.* in the /usr/local/httpd/wais/sources # directory, in this example. set indexprog = /usr/local/bin/wais/waisindex # The full pathname to your waisindex program. set nonomatch cd $rootdir set num = 0 foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) echo "The current pathname is: $pathname" if ($num == 0) then set exportflag = "-export" else set exportflag = "-a" endif $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index $exportflag $pathname/*.html $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.txt $indexprog -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.c $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.ps $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.gif $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.au $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.hqx $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.xbm $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.mpg $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.pict $indexprog -nocontents -l 0 -nopairs -nocat -d $index -a $pathname/*.tiff @ num++ end echo "$num directories were indexed." << I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not recognize the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or so???? Thank in advance Waldemar Skorupa Hagen, Germany
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help on c-script Date: 25 Feb 1997 08:37:11 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5eu8bn$40u@library.airnews.net> References: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> [Waldermar, my email to you bounced, please check you addr] ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) wrote: > [...] > foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) > [...] > I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not > recognize the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. > Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or > so???? Hi, BSD4.3 based NS3.2 does not have the 'cut' command. There're two easy ways to get around it: 1. Use "awk '{print $2}'" in place of the "cut -f2" in your script. 2. Get GNU's textutils.<version#>.tar.gz from prep.ai.mit.edu or your favorite GNU mirror. It should compile straight out of the box. You'll have 'cut' plus other superior GNU goodies. I recommend the second solution, it should give you fewer headaches like this in the future. Regards, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: Achim Gratz <gratz@ite.inf.tu-dresden.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps Date: 25 Feb 1997 10:24:02 +0100 Organization: Institute of Computer Engineering, CS department, TU Dresden, Germany Sender: gratz@ite127.inf.tu-dresden.de Message-ID: <cn2stnsrf.fsf@ite127.inf.tu-dresden.de> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> writes: > Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the > following environment. > > 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. > 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned > MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) Sorry, that limitation is carried over from NextStep and has to do with DPS. Since a good number of people have complained about it, it might go away in the future. > 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by > just clicking onto a different display area. You can configure oswm to have virtual screens (it is an olvwm in disguise). The problem is that many apps don't expect it and this buys you some "accidental features" that aren't funny. The problem with not having virtual screens is that especially Motif apps pop many windows on the screen, but they don't close them all together when you iconify one as the OpenStep apps do. > 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep > removing my mail from /var/mail. You should be glad it does. Achim Gratz. --+<[ It's the small pleasures that make life so miserable. ]>+-- WWW: http://www.inf.tu-dresden.de/~ag7/{english/} E-Mail: gratz@ite.inf.tu-dresden.de Phone: +49 351 463 - 8325
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 21:03:02 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3312D4A3.2919@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: carl@norumrez.usask.ca Carl Norum wrote: > > Hi there everyone. I am taking a media studies class, and for a large part > of our final mark we have to do a major final project. I was thinking of > doing some computer animation with the new NeXTstation Turbo Color that we > just got here at home. Could anyone direct me to some good programs which > could help me out? Thanks a lot. > > Carl Norum > carl@norumrez.usask.ca > (NeXTmail preferred.) Visit http://www.gestel.com or http://www.gestel.it younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: 25 Feb 1997 12:16:51 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5eul7j$ec8$3@darla.visi.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> In comp.sys.next.software Anonymous <Sam.Chow@analog.com> wrote: : 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. : 2. Do not raise windows upon activation. (I always hate those darned : MacOS windows and Windows95 windows as a result. Pet Peeves) : 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by : just clicking onto a different display area. : 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep : removing my mail from /var/mail. Can't do any of these things. All of these behaviors are in line with NEXTSTEP, btw. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:03:02 GMT Organization: R&A Sender: news@RnA.NL Message-ID: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Subject line says it all. Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. -- Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl (Gerben Wierda) NEXTSTEP RD242 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there" Paraphrased in Alice in Wonderland, originally from the Talmud. Renee: "Met veel koper maakt men hoempa." (After hearing a Nielsen symphony)
From: georg@cl-ki.uni-osnabrueck.de (Georg Rehm) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: talk and ytalk hiccups Date: 25 Feb 1997 12:31:25 GMT Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <5eum2t$31n$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> References: <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net> <5es6ko$e1n$3@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> Bernhard Reiter (breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE) wrote: > In article <E61EK8.An@xombi.wizard.net>, > recurve@resourceful.com writes: > > xombi.wizard.net> talk ginger > > talk: xombi.wizard.net: Can't figure out network address. > > xombi.wizard.net> ytalk ginger > > new_user: bad host: 'xombi.wizard.net': (no system error) > > xombi.wizard.net> > Try to ping the other host first. And try it with the IP Number > then. Bernhard, the guy was obviously trying to "talk" to someone logged in on "his" machine which means that there's probably no DNS problem. Some suggestions: be sure that user "ginger" exists on your machine; furthermore be sure that your machine (incl. loopback) is correctly configured in /etc/hosts. Regards, Georg -- Georg Rehm - Wuestenstrasse 33 - 49080 Osnabrueck - Tel: +49 541 9827762 RFC 822: Georg@CL-KI.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE - georg@ge.org
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: KOI8-r fonts Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:25:46 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> If you get any other replies about cyrillic fonts for NeXT, I would be very interested to hear about them. I searched Peanuts and found this: ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts.README ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts.tar.gz ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts_KOI8.READM E ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Fonts/fonts/Russian_NeXT_Fonts_KOI8.tar.g z I'm working from home on a Mac so I can't download them to check them out, but here's the read me from the KOI8 file: This package contains some Russian NeXT fonts in the KOI8 encoding scheme. I have found them as public domain PostScript *.pdf fonts at KIAE anonymous ftp site. I have used the same conversion scheme as one described below which was used to convert fonts from my previous package Russian_NeXT_Fonts. Hope you will like these fonts. September 28, 1995 M.Fradkin ======================================================================== ======= ======================= Russian_NeXT_Fonts.README file ======================== As you can guess from the name, it is a bunch of Russian NeXT fonts. You can place them in your "~/Library/Fonts", "NextLibrary/Fonts" or "LocalLibrary/Fonts" directory and run 'buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts', 'buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts' or 'buildafmdir LocalLibrary/Fonts', correspondingly. Then they will be available for your system. Fonts in this directory are produced from public domain PostScript font set cyr_ps.zip and Terminal KOI8 by Daniel A. Chirkov. To convert *.pfb files from cyr.ps into Post Script Type 1 NeXT format the 'pfb2ps' utility from "pcATMfont2Next" package was used followed by 'afmmaker' to produce *.afm file. These fonts do not have Latin characters and their encoding put Cyrillic letters in place of Latin ones to map standard "QWERTY" keyboard layout onto Russian "JCUKENG" one. To convert KOI8-Terminal font I took Mac type 1 KOI8-Terminal font and got *.afm file using 'mcvert'. Then I have produced outline font file through 'mfrc' program from Mac printer-downloadable font (Macintosh file type 'LWFN'). This font has both Latin and Cyrillic characters in KOI-8 encoding and can, thus, be used to read relcom.* newsgroups and to send/receive e-mail in Russian. I do not have convenient NeXT keyboard layout, unfortunately. Please, send comments to 'mfradkin@next.mrco.carleton.ca'. M.Fradkin, Jan 29 1995 -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB: MindShare 3.0 but no one's home. Looking for info. (fwd) Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 09:43:44 -0800 Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970225094316.11981B@kisa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have information about pangea? They don't seem to be answering voicemail messages. Is there someone that has MindShare 3.0 that is interested in selling? What kind of prices am I looking at for this product? Thanks, --------------------------------------------------------- Griogair (206) 343-7828 Seanet Internet Services griogair@seanet.com ---------------------------------------------------------
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NoteBook.app, how can I get a license? Date: 25 Feb 1997 17:50:22 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ev8ou$e93@news.acns.nwu.edu> I tried NoteBook.app and I like it. I'd like to purchase a license but I haven't been able to contact the authors. Here is what I know (from there info panel), it is written by Millennium Software Labs, Inc. 1010 El Camino Real, Suite 300 ˇ Menlo Park, CA 94025 ˇ USA (415) 321-3720 ˇ (415) 321-3650 Fax ˇ info@millennium.com Call (415) 321-3720 to order products But there phone is disconnected and has no forwarding information. Can anyone tell me now to contact them? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:42:40 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a OpenStep 4.1/Intel machine on my desk at my University. We have a T3 Network connection, so to say the least it is very fast. Unfortunately, the University has implemented a 90 minute time limit for their dialup IP service. So to get around it I am looking into establishing my own dialin service. Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Animation for Black Hardware? Date: 25 Feb 1997 14:13:04 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5evkl0$dh7@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eq24e$8b@tribune.usask.ca> <33113B5C.37FB@earthlink.net> Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> wrote: >I know that Cambridge Animation Systems' Animo runs on NeXTSTEP. It may >be a little...NO, ALOT....more expensive for what you want. Here's the >URL in case you win the lottery. > >http://www.animo.com That's an odd site... under "NEEDS" it states: "Animo works under a UNIX-based operating system that allows for reliable multitasking, built in networking, high-resolution graphics, and an easy to use interface. It also allows easy integration into mixed SGI, Windows NT and Macintosh environments." UNIX-based operating system? What the heck is that supposed to mean? SGI? Or are they no longer running under NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: Brian Ward <bward@stevens-tech.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: X Apps Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 17:48:28 -0500 Organization: Stevens Institute of Technology Message-ID: <33136C3C.AEC@stevens-tech.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there anyway to run OPENSTEP in a X WIndows on another machine i.e. not a NeXT?
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: dual-boot partition problem Date: 25 Feb 1997 23:19:51 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5evs2n$vm0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I have a problem with partitioning a 2GB disk for dual-boot operation. The disk is just over 2GB, so BuildDisk can't be used. I've been trying to get NS 3.3 fdisk to give me DOS/NS partitioning. I tried imitating the setup of my old, working 1GB dual-boot disk. I chose the same partition-types, but for some reason the "DOS" one is not recognized by either DOS or NeXTSTEP. In running fdisk, I picked a "DOS 16-bit FAT" partition (type 6) for the DOS one. Here is the fdisk information for my working 1GB dual-boot disk: NeXT fdisk v1.02 Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 200 - NEXTSTEP 200 806 Active Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 0 1 1 0 6 3f 20 c7 20 63fe0 80 0 1 c8 a7 3f 20 3ed 64000 193000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 1006 Megabytes, 2061108 sectors bios: 1006 Megabytes, 2060288 sectors cylinders = 1006, heads = 64, sectors/track = 32 The results for the new 2GB disk look similar: NeXT fdisk v1.02 Type Start Size Status -------------------------------------------- DOS, 16 bit FAT 0 604 - NEXTSTEP 604 1443 Active Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 0 1 1 0 6 fe 3f 4c 3f 12dfce 80 0 1 4d a7 fe 3f 104 12e00d 2d1ab8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 2050 Megabytes, 4197405 sectors bios: 2047 Megabytes, 4192965 sectors cylinders = 261, heads = 255, sectors/track = 63 Note that both DOS partitions have an Id of "6", so they *should* be the same type. However, when I boot the new disk no "dos_disk" partition shows in the NS file viewer, and when I boot from a DOS floppy and try to access C:, it says the disk has an "invalid media type", and won't let me run DOS fdisk or format on it. Obviously I havn't done the right thing with fdisk yet. If anyone can tell me how to fix this, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Kang Hyun) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 23:36:18 GMT Organization: Hayan Nalgae Software Message-ID: <5evt1i$pet$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> You wrote in comp.sys.next .software, on Mon, 24 Feb 1997 19:03:02 GMT > Subject line says it all. > > Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the > contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. Hi, I am the developer of HNNews. HNNews can extract and launch binaries and text from the original MIME message. And I am planning to support internal MIME in a few months. If you want to know about HNNews, please visit http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/. Regards. Hayan Nalgae Software, NEXTSTEP Development. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~hnalgae/ hnalgae@soback.kornet.nm.kr <Kang Hyun> Hayan Nalgae means White Wing in Korean. NeXT, Mime mail OK.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Talk between Linux and NeXT impossible? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:58:04 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5eralc$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5ea245$3r4@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5ef1va$9tc$1@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> <5eijt6$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > breiter@mathematik.Uni-Osnabrueck.DE (Bernhard Reiter) wrote: > >You might want to try "ytalk" which has some improvements over > >other talks. ;-) > > I already tried 'ytalk'. No help. Did you install it on both linux and NeXTSTEP? --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA I suspect that is what you're running into. NeXTSTEP uses some Postscript comments to indicate printer-features which have been selected for the job. This works fine if another NeXTSTEP machine is doing the actual printing, but it won't work so well if your print spooler is something else. > Does anyone have any experience with this? Is there anything I > can do to work around the problems? In the definition of the printers, in Netinfo, add an attribute of "_nxfinalform". See if that helps. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: WTB: MindShare 3.0 but no one's home. Looking for info. (fwd) Date: 26 Feb 1997 02:09:30 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5f060q$68d@news.us.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.91.970225094316.11981B@kisa> Griogair Bell <griogair@seanet.com> wrote: > Anyone have information about pangea? See http://www.pangea.com/ ..Bill Chin
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: KOI8-r fonts Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:20:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970226082000.DAA15230@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <msg36912.thr-2006ca.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Uh, why wouldn't these be downloadable? I know it's a hassle dealing with resource forks on a Mac and all, but surely there's a gunzip program for it--then you can move the tar over to the NeXT over a serial link or network and you're set! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard Date: 26 Feb 1997 06:07:07 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda. Message-ID: <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2UgbWFya2V0IHdoZXJlIGFs bW9zdCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24g Y29tcGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vy dmljZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFw aWQgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3Qs IGEgaGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBp cyBvcGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9i bGVtLi4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJl c2VudCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFu aWVzIGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgcGFydG5l cnMgd2hvIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgbWUgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IEkgZG8gbWFuYWdlIGEgMSwwMDAgbWVt YmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVyZSBJIHdyaXRlIGFi b3V0IHRoZSBuZXcgcHJvZHVjdHMgYW5kIHJlbGVhc2VzLg0KDQoNCg0KQ2FybG9zIEJvcmdhcnRo DQpMaWIgSW5mb3Jt4XRpY2EgTHRkYS4NClJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvICAtICBCcmFzaWw=
From: Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:47:51 -0800 Organization: Egg Head Billy Productions Message-ID: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > > Subject line says it all. > > Oh, and I don't mind a command line based newsreader that can just decode the > contents of a MIME message like the use of uudecode from within nn. > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! - Mark Trombino (not affiliated in any way to Radical Software. Just a fan!)
From: Mark Elliss <melliss@gentia.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: 200MHz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 10:48:43 +0000 Organization: Planning Sciences International Message-ID: <3314150B.26DD@gentia.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have had this problem using Diamond Stealth cards. The solution is to run Configure.app from NextAdmin. When it comes up and you see Summary of Devices select the Expert... button. Set Boot Graphics to No. Your system will now boot without having to type -v at the boot prompt. Good Luck Mark
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bifrostworks link doesn't work... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:57:33 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33145CF4.58C9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Noah M. Daniels wrote: >However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not > exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that > didn't work either. Any ideas? http://www.bifrostworks.com/ Now, They work. Please vist their web-site. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Message-ID: <9702251948.AA02446@huelf.hamburg.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Stefan Huelf <stefan@huelf.hamburg.com> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 20:48:00 +0100 Subject: Quix Computerware Hi there Folks, does anybody know if Quix Computerware Inc. in Switzerland, Europe which produces the Daydream Dongles for NeXT computers has moved or changed its phone number? I do need to talk to Andy Grawehr of Quix! Any hint?? Anybody??? Thanx, Later + Greetings from .. Stefan .. 8^) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Stefan Huelf Life spans many different colors, but voice + 49 - 40 - 40 43 64 - REAL Computing is b(l)ack with AppleSTEP stefan@huelf.hamburg.com (NeXTmail,MIME & ASCII) "myNeXTOS"= Rhapsody =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "When the history of Apple Computer is written, Steve Job's entire experience at NeXT may be seen as a 12-year-long skunkworks project" Simson L. Garfinkel in his Analysis dd Dec 21st, 1996, published by San Jose Mercury news
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: can't connect to 'http://www.bifrostworks.com' Date: 26 Feb 97 14:11:06 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF39F50F-11320F@207.147.51.249> References: <199702241453.JAA07234@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: luomat@peak.org On Mon, Feb 24, 1997 9:53 AM, Timothy J Luoma <mailto:luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > My DNS doesn't seem to be able to find > http://www.bifrostworks.com > > Anyone have an IP for them? > > TjL I just connected to the URL you have above and got Bifrost with no problems. If you are using OmniWeb, I have occassionally noticed that it has a bit of a problem resolving URL's. Just try it again. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 26 Feb 97 14:13:02 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> References: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 5:47 AM, Mark Trombino <mailto:mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support > internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever > used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! The UI is great on RadicalNews, but the performance on my Turbo Cube is slow as molasses even with a 28.8 connection. That Kiwi Newsreader is much faster, but I don't know if it supports MIME. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: bhenry@curie (Brad Henry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Seeking: Jason Fosback Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:08:02 GMT Organization: AT&T Wireless Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5evgr2$2jr@nwestmail.nwest.mccaw.com> References: <199702241324.IAA06346@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Last known email address: > jfosback@pscwa.psca.com > He's the author of PopOver.app (among other things). Now I get > "unknown host", there's no 'whois' information for his domain. > Anyone know where he went?? > TjL Jason is alive and well at jfosback@pscwa.psca.com. Was this a one time problem or does this occur frequently? There is whois information for psca.com, and the mailhost for pscwa.psca.com is mailhost.pscwa.psca.com. Sounds like it might have been a DNS problem (unable to reach the name server for psca.com). Try tracerouting to 199.99.162.3, please send me the ouput if there are any problems. There is no whois info for the pscwa.psca.com subdomain, and pscwa.psca.com is not a machine name. If anyone else has had problems contacting Jason, please let me know. thanks, brad ______________________________________________________ Brad Henry Platinum Solutions 1018 110th Place N.E. Bellevue, WA 98004 brad_henry@psca.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Message-ID: <1997Feb26.104636.26294@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 26 Feb 97 10:46:36 MST References: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: world Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu In <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? > What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? > The PPP package that ships with Openstep 4.1 works just fine... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU (David M. Wood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT TIFFs, JPEGs to Windows95 TIFFs, JPEGs Date: 26 Feb 1997 20:13:24 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5f25h4$15hs@magma.Mines.EDU> Keywords: TIFF, Windows 95 Howdy all, I recently bought an HP 690 series inkjet (which can use the `photo cartridge', which replaces the black-only cartridge with lower-saturation cyan and magenta inks + black, for quasi-photographic quality results). While the JetPilot HP 680 driver does a *great* job for color using the *conventional* color cartridge, it doesn't know about the photo cartridge. I use JetPilot for all my non-photographic color printing. The HP-supplied drivers for Windows95 are very good, and naturally take full advantage of the photo cartridge. So I've been trying to convert photo-based NeXT graphics (TIFF,JPEG,GIF) into some standard form that Windows95 knows about. I've used epstotiff to generate 300dpi NeXT TIFF files, and there are several NeXT utilities for interconverting betweenEPS, TIFF, JPEG, etc. But so far no Windows app I've stumbled across can open NeXTish TIFF or JPEG files (even when run through Rosetta). Can anyone recommend (1) a public domain or free TIFF viewer for Windows95 (from which I assume I'll be able to print using the HP Windows95 printer driver), and (2) a specific sequence of processing steps which will convert a NeXT TIFF into something Windows 95 will recognize and print? Many thanks! -- David M. Wood, Associate Professor Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 http://www.physics.mines.edu/people/pages/wood.html e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241457.JAA07277@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:57:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with PPP requested Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com References: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: The Math Doctor <mathdoc@b-bop.com> Original Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 17:44:40 -0600 Message-ID: 41c89f8121dc67bc78cf42a0d0a51a53 - > 0) Is there an easier way to do all this - some inexpensive piece > of software for dial up which supports PPP? Many people have reported good experiences with GateKeeper ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/GateKeeper.2.1.Beta.5.NI.b.tar.gz > 1) What am I doing wrong? Have you set up the 'pap' files? > 2) What do I have to do to get PPP running that I have not already > done? Don't think there is anything. kermit is a good way to test the connection, but I'm not clear as if there is any PAP stuff setup. What does the ppplog tell you? > 3) If I succesfully connected and got PPP working, would > Netsurfer work with out aditional set up? Yes, it should, as would OmniWeb, which is free for a single user. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/OmniWeb.2.5b2.N.tar.gz TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241453.JAA07234@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 77ec746f598929e0e67a660c99b3ba35 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:53:38 -0500 Subject: can't connect to 'http://www.bifrostworks.com' References: 77ec746f598929e0e67a660c99b3ba35 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary My DNS doesn't seem to be able to find http://www.bifrostworks.com Anyone have an IP for them? TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702241451.JAA07214@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 09:51:21 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Cc: comp-sys-next-software@antigone.com, bentonkr@goliath.vuse.vanderbilt.edu References: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Original Date: 23 Feb 1997 04:02:00 GMT > To get OmniWeb, a great Web browser, go to > http://www.omnigroup.com/ Except that if this is NeXTStep 3.0 or 3.1 I don't think OW will run on it. Perhaps version 1.0 will Try this: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.1.0/OmniWeb.1.0.NIHS.b.tar.gz Hmm... that's QuadFat, which I think will barf on NS 3.0 or 3.1. If you need OW 1.0 and need it for just Mach, let me know. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.software.measurement,comp.software.testing,comp.software-eng,comp.sys.next.software,news.software.anu-news Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 26 Feb 1997 22:17:14 GMT Control: cancel <01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Message-ID: <cancel.01bc23a5$14b03700$0100007f@lib-info-01> Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970226.20. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970226.20.html for complete report. Original Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard
From: Michael Lewis <nylwi@ny.ubs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps Subject: Re: Configure Solaris Openstep Desktop Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 17:19:04 -0500 Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Message-ID: <3314B6D8.1D09@ny.ubs.com> References: <3312377E.2941@analog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anonymous wrote: Dear Netters, I am new user to the Openstep Solaris scene. I have always dreamed of using NeXTstep. I have recently installed Openstep onto my sparc-station now that Openstep is finally available for Solaris. Unfortunately, I wasn't that impressed with Openstep/Solaris as some of the key features available in OpenWindows/CDE is not available in Openstep. Specifically, I could not customize Openstep to the following environment. 1. Activate windows on the mouse pointer. you need to start oswm with the -f flag (ie oswm -f) there is a bunch more args to oswm also run oswm -help for a list. 3. Multiple workspace displays like CDE. One can be so productive by just clicking onto a different display area. This is one of the main reasons I don't use Openstep at work ( I do at home ). 4. Openstep Mailer is awesome but there is one tiny problem it keep removing my mail from /var/mail. the mailer is 'cute' but it lacks some basic features like it can't auto include signatures or auto-intend/include the original mail you are replying to. I like the fact that it moves from /var/mail so its off the mail server and in my home directory. One feature I'm trying to figure out myself is how to set the icon image and Dock image for non-openstep apps. Currently the are all assigned the same terminal image which makes it hard to tell what the app really does. I 'm hoping Openstep for Solaris gets updated soon. In its current state its not very useful but then its also free! I know that one could override the environment variables for one's preference. Question is how? I have checked the NeXT FAQ and it seems that one has to use dwrite followed by the environmental variables that one wishes to change. Anyway, I will continue to search for answers but I thought that experts here could help me out in my quest for answers. Any feedback or tip is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow -- ================================================================== Michael L. Lewis mlewis@ny.ubs.com Union Bank of Switzerland www.ubs.com 299 Park Ave, NYC. 10171 212-821-5649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: crump@world.std.com (David Crump) Subject: /etc/hosts not resolving hostnames...help! Message-ID: <E688Ay.283@world.std.com> Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 20:16:10 GMT I am having trouble with my NeXT box resolving hostnames. In my local configuration, I have the correct IP number, router number, netmask and hostname. I have tried both NetInfo Network and NON-NetInfo Network, but to no avail. My /etc/hosts file has all my names and numbers in it, but it says to NOT use NetInfo if I want this file to be read. How exactly do I do this? Thanks for the help via e-mail... David Crump crump@world.std.com ===================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com (Eric Chu) Subject: Re: Fax software on NeXT Message-ID: <3314cb74.804374749@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <1997Jan10.191542.2125@gamelan.shnet.org> <5ef2nk$26e@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <5eifsu$6c5@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:50:23 GMT Hi all, Look out...newbie alert. On the subject of faxing and NeXts I have a black '40 mono running openstep. I'd like to buy a cheapo usr external 14.4 modem to setup my black as a fax station. Questions: 1) I can't find NXFAX. Can someone point me in the right direction? How much is it? Do I have other options? 2) Cables...pointers to making one and purchasing one would be much appreciated. TIA eric chu echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com >A compiled package... well, perhaps I should try to do that, but compiling >is really not that hard. > > Gregor > > >-- >| Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | >| flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | >| (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | >| PGP Key fingerprint = 23 8F B3 38 A3 39 A6 01 5B 99 91 D6 F2 AC CD C7 |
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NewsGrazer Prob Date: 26 Feb 1997 21:39:40 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5f2ais$am3@mainsrv.main.nc.us> I am running NeXTStep 3.1 on an 040 cube I have a SLIP connection set up and I am trying to get NewsGrazer to work with the local news server. I set the nntp value to the name of the server and when I start up the program, the SLIP connection comes up, the NewsGrazer window says "Locating Active Newsgroups" at that point the program hangs. The modem reveals that at this point there is no communication going on. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Cicada clafey@main.nc.us
From: rvose@ix.netcom.com (R. Vose) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Mail.App Sorting Date: 27 Feb 1997 04:27:22 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Group... Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming email to a specific .mbox when it arrives? I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found mailapp-utilities, but that looks to be command-line driven. Thanks in advance... -- Randy V. rvose@ix.netcom.com Denver, CO
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 27 Feb 1997 03:21:15 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm132-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f2ujb$j3m$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Cc: markusg@burrow.muc.de In <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede wrote: > >>>>> "GW" == Gerben Wierda <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> writes: > > GW> Subject line says it all. > > Everytime somebody askes for a good newsreader my voice can be heard > shouting: Emacs + Gnus! It does everything you want and more. > > Markus G > It doesn't sound to me like what he meant. He's most likely looking for a newsreader extension for the 'vi' editor? No full screen, line by line mode. Sorry, I couldn't help myself, just a friendly joke. :-))) Good luck. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Mail.App Sorting Date: 27 Feb 1997 05:34:34 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5f36da$5ii@news.digifix.com> References: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5f32fa$pil@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> On 02/26/97, R. Vose wrote: >Group... > >Is there a program out there which will automatically sort incoming email to >a specific .mbox when it arrives? > >I've been hunting around the peak ftp site and found mailapp-utilities, but >that looks to be command-line driven. > >Thanks in advance... > Yes. You need mailapp-utilities and procmail. Both should be on ftp.next.peak.org. Also, check out http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next Tim's got some good Mail.app/procmail links there.. My setup with those two programs and Mail.app regularly sorts, auto-replies, auto-/dev/nulls, bounces or logs 500 to 800 pieces of email each day. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xg1yjry8m.fsf@burrow.muc.de> To: Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:36:25 GMT >>>>> "GW" == Gerben Wierda <Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl> writes: GW> Subject line says it all. Everytime somebody askes for a good newsreader my voice can be heard shouting: Emacs + Gnus! It does everything you want and more. Markus G
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: WTB : Academic Version : Mathematica 2.2 Date: 27 Feb 1997 05:29:41 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5f3645$6nh@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: mathematica i am looking to buy a copy of mathematica 2.2 (academic version). please e-mail me with details. thanks, seran
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Summary: Help a NeXT novice Keywords: NeXT, Screwup Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:16:16 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the computer, I will get a message: "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse pointer, but no Workspace Manager. Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all the FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. - Nick
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Need help on c-script Date: 27 Feb 1997 00:26:24 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5f2kbg$5k@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> References: <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de> In article <5eu3eo$p7c@ilex.FernUni-Hagen.de>, ws@helga.helga.mfh-iserlohn.de (Waldemar Skorupa) writes: |> Hello, |> |> I need help on the following c-script: -- snip -- |> foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | cut -f2 | tail -r`) --snip |> I'm working on a HP-PA Risc running NeXT 3.2. the system will not recognize |> the "cut" command at the beginning of the loop. |> Hey programmers do you have any suggestions for an other command or so???? |> |> Thank in advance |> Try: foreach pathname (`du $rootdir | awk '{print $2;}' | tail -r`) This will also print out the value in the second column, which is what the cut was to do (I believe). -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 11:22:59 +0100 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd files on the hard disk... plaese mail any replies also pesonally thanks in advance, Bald Herreman Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music University of Ghent BELGIUM
From: KoopaTroopa <KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: midi for openstep Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 05:59:08 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <331568FC.1485@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone know of any good midi sequencing or digital multitrack recording software for OpenStep Intel? Please point me in the right direction
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: 27 Feb 1997 13:51:45 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd : files on the hard disk... : plaese mail any replies also pesonally : thanks in advance, : Bald Herreman : Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music : University of Ghent : BELGIUM AFAIK this is _not_ possible as the normal DAT streamer don't support reading audio DATs. The only exception are the ones by Silicon Graphics, but you need a Silicon Graphics computer to use this feature. Eberhard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Subject: Will OS/UNIX Apps Run in Rhapsody? Message-ID: <E69Is9.4vp@papageno.rim.or.jp> Sender: hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (Hiroshi TOMARU) Organization: Independent researcher, Takasaki, Gunma, JAPAN Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:00:09 GMT I have skimmed Apple's web pages but could not find the answer: (1) Will OPENSTEP standard applications (such as WorkSpace, Edit, etc.) run in Rhapsody? (2) Will current third-party applications for NEXTSTEP run in Rhapsody? (3) Will UNIX commands run in Rhapsody? These questions may seem silly but I'm serious. It's getting harder and harder to stay on NEXTSTEP on INTEL hardware because I cannot get any state-of-the-art applications for NS and SoftPC can only run 16bit Windows applications. So if Rhapsody enables me to run Mac and OS applications and UNIX commands simultaneously, I think it's worth considering the transfer to PowerPC architecture. --- Hiroshi TOMARU ($BEP4]9@(J) <- Japanese Kanji hrst@papageno.rim.or.jp (accepts NeXT-type mail < 100KB)
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:18:01 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: : I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing : around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. : : The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. : : What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network : Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a : LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the : computer, I will get a message: : : "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" : : and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. : : I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at : starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse : pointer, but no Workspace Manager. : : Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, : maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all : the : FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send : an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. : Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My : number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. : : - Nick : Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... If you can't find it, send me a mail. I could check it out, when I'm home. -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: software for microtek scanner? Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:23:56 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5f45ds$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hello, I just got a used Microtek ScanmakerII. I works under Windows, but I'd like to use it with NS. Is there any scanner software, which works with this? (I already tried ScanMaker, but it doesn't recognice my scanner). thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NeXT Apps. Date: 27 Feb 1997 15:15:19 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5f48e7$mv1@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: 65894d2c0ac7ff613bceb7cb8487c175 - <199702241451.JAA07214@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Hmm... that's QuadFat, which I think will barf on NS 3.0 or 3.1. > > If you need OW 1.0 and need it for just Mach, let me know. There used to be a cute little command-line app called 'jenny' on the archives that would turn a fat binary into a thin Moto binary that NS 3.0 could use (providing, of course, that the app didn't call any libraries that were missing in NS 3.0!). If it's not already on your FTP site, you might want to dig it out---maybe even put a README to draw attention to it. ``We will heel you. We will save your +------------------------------------+ sole. We will even dye for you.'' | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 | -- Seen in a cobbler's window | jburton@nwu.edu | Central Square, Cambridge +------------------------------------+
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Software for reading MusicDATs? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 17:00:34 +0100 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227165446.13907A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> References: <Pine.SOL.3.94.970227111925.26677A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Eberhard Wolff <3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <5f43hh$5fk@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> On 27 Feb 1997, Eberhard Wolff wrote: > Bald Herreman (bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be) wrote: > : Hi does anyone of the existance of an application for reading music dats > : on a datstreamer (wangdat 3600, in my case) and saving the titles as .snd > : files on the hard disk... > > : plaese mail any replies also pesonally > > : thanks in advance, > > : Bald Herreman > : Institute for Psychoacustcs and Electronic Music > : University of Ghent > : BELGIUM > AFAIK this is _not_ possible as the normal DAT streamer don't support reading > audio DATs. The only exception are the ones by Silicon Graphics, but you > need a Silicon Graphics computer to use this feature. > > Eberhard > Would it be possible to do this from the coaxial/electrical (or optical) digital output of a audio dat machine (preferably to a next, 4.1 openstep computer, if not to windows). I have to create a CDimage with sound examples accompanying a forthcoming book publication. thanks, bald
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Can Citrix WinFrame be used to distribute OSE windows? Date: 27 Feb 1997 16:23:46 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f4cei$8n3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Citrix offers what appears to be a GDI window server and client. This allows Windows apps to run on a computer running a Citrix-modified version of Windows NT which with their windows appearing on remote computers running Citrix window server software. This is analogous to NSHosting or the more common X Window window client/server technology. But since OSE windows aren't "pure" GDI windows (a DPS window server draws the window contents), we wonder whether Citrix will work with OSE apps. Does anyone know? -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: lones@lones.mit.edu (Lones A Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Dvips and 600dpi --- how can I force fonts to be generated? Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:08 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5f4eoc$chk@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I want to convert my dvi file into postscript, but temporarily do not have my 400 dpi printer. Rather, I cansend it to a 600dpi printer. How can I induce TeX to create the fonts rather than scaling the 400 dpi fonts. This latter solution seems to look ugly on the 600dpi printer. Thanks, Lones .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. / L \ O / N \ E / S \ / S \ M / I \ T / H \ / `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' ` Lones Smith, Economics Department, M.I.T., E52-252C, Cambridge MA 02139 (617)-253-0914 (work) 253-6915 (fax) lones@lones.mit.edu
From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:32 GMT Organization: digitalNATION high speed internet Message-ID: <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Cc: nyang@netcom.com In <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang wrote: > I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing > around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. > > The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. > > What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network > Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a > LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the > computer, I will get a message: > > "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" > > and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. > > I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at > starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse > pointer, but no Workspace Manager. > > Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, > maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all > the > FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send > an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. > Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My > number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. > > - Nick > No problem... When your machine first boots, a screen will come up saying "Loading from Disk". At this point, hold down the right "Command" key and tap the upper left hand key on the numeric keypad (generally the "`" key). This will bring up a terminal boot screen. Type "bsd -s" (without the quotes) at the prompt. This will bring you up in single-user mode. Single user mode has only a UNIX command line interface, so don't worry when no Workspace Manager launches... Type the following commands: mkdir /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetInfoBackup cp -r /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ cp hostcongif /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ rm -r /etc/netinfo rm /etc/hostconfig cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc These commands will make a backup of your network configuration files, delete the old network configuration files and then put the templates back in their place. Make sure to replace the <YourUserNameHere> strings with your actual login name. F.Y.I The commands I gave you are not the most efficient way to execute these tasks, but are the easiest to "get" if you are unfamiliar with UNIX. Email me if you need additional help. Josh Stella
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) Subject: software to separate NHIS binaries? Message-ID: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto - Dept. of Physics Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 07:07:31 GMT I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract only one type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. Anyone knows what is its actual name and where it is available? thanks.
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: software to separate NHIS binaries? Date: 27 Feb 1997 19:19:33 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f4mo5$emo$1@news.xmission.com> References: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) wrote: > I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract > only one type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. > Anyone knows what is its actual name and where it is available? command line: lipo, built into NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP, try "man lipo" to learn about it. GUI: MetroSuction.app, should be available from the NeXT ftp sites as a freebie. -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: software to separate NHIS binaries? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E69zrM.27H@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:06:58 GMT References: <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <E692GK.AsK@info.physics.utoronto.ca>, Wei Liu <liu@emerald.physics> wrote: >I saw this software sometime before. It is used to extract only one >type of binary code from the FAT compiled executable. Anyone knows what >is its actual name and where it is available? >thanks. > > It comes with NeXTSTEP and is called "lipo". Check the man page for more info. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk (Andy Warne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Help please with disk partition problem! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 05:20:20 GMT Organization: Unisys Corporation Message-ID: <5f4tkq$qfb$2@mail.pl.unisys.com> Hi all you Next experts out there! My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy one! I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. The first attempt was to let the installation do its own thing. When prompted I let Next create a 100 meg DOS partition and let it use the rest of the disk for itself. I assumed that because of the 2 Gig limit it would split the rest of the disk into two 1.5 approx gig partitions. Wrong. It split it into two 820 Meg partitions and I'm not sure what it did with the other 1.5 gig if anything (how do I tell?) Not what I want at all! Furthermore it went on to split the second disk into two 1.2 gig partitions, again with 800 meg unaccounted for. I never tried mounting any more than 2 partitions so I suppose the extra space could have been partitioned in some way. The next try was to force it to split the disks into 2 by telling nextstep to use 2 gig at installation. So I ended up with a 2 gig next partition running just fine. But what about the other 1.2 gig? Thought no problem, just run Fdisk from within Next and set up another 1.2 gig partition. Wrong again. Fdisk says "only one Next partition allowed" so I now have 1.2 gig of unusable (by Next) space! and also crazily partitioned second drive. I tried several other variations such as using DOS Fdisk to set up 2 equal partitions before installing Next over one of them but after installing theres no way to reallocate the other partition to Next. In fact I have now done at least 10 complete Next installations with various attempts at partitioning! Glad I installed a 16 speed CD-ROM drive! I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). Has anyone any ideas? Please? Thanks in advance! Andy.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE6ACo5.10n@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:45:41 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com HI. Thank you all so much for your help. I got the machine without the manuals so I didn't know how to boot into single user mode. I guess I didn't look hard enought on the web to find out about this as some people told me this is a pretty common problem. I got the machine to boot into single user mode and replaced hostconfig and netinfo with fresh copies and it reboot fine again. Thank you all so much. I learned so much in the last 24 hours. I love the machine a lot and think it's a beautiful piece of art. Anyway, when I get home and I am going to play with it some more. Thank you all again. - Nick
From: KoopaTroopa <KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: where2buy? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 18:50:44 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is the cheapest place for a student to buy a NeXT OS for Intel bundle? and about how large a partition would you guys recommend?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: where2buy? Message-ID: <1997Feb28.092756.26301@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Feb 97 09:27:56 MST References: <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> Distribution: world Cc: KoopaTroopa@prodigy.net In <33161DD3.88C@prodigy.net> KoopaTroopa wrote: > Where is the cheapest place for a student to buy a NeXT OS for Intel > bundle? and about how large a partition would you guys recommend? > Your campus bookstore "should" be able order. All of the NeXTstep educational pruchases are made thrua company in Denver, CO. Check www.next.com for more info. The price is $299 for all the versions. I suggest as much room as you can afford for NeXTstep. There is quite of descent software for it and your hard disk will fill up fast... At home, I do ok with a 1 gig partition. I think that 1-2 gig should do.... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Message-ID: <1997Feb28.093029.26302@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Feb 97 09:30:29 MST References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> Distribution: world Cc: roland@onevision.de In <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> Roland Schwingel wrote: ... > So I tried to contact systemix (vendor of Safetynet) in order > to ask whether there is a new version. But I didn't got > any response right now. Are they still alive ? My Emails > didn't bounce. Their web page seems to be very old, too. ... I think they rae still alive. I have been using their backup software for over a year and it is just great! Anyway, they posted version 2.51 on ftp-peak and announced a special pricing policy for the next few weeks. I therefore think that they are still around... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: jwpark@softmagic.co.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Where is Video-CD player on NEXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 28 Feb 1997 01:34:44 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <5f5cnk$ira$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Keywords: VideoCD, mpeg-player If Video-CD player on NEXTSTEP is being, where is that software? JongWan Park. nisys.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: criamon.omnigroup.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:25575 comp.sys.next.software:28307 Andy Warne (andy@nutaumar.demon.co.uk) wrote: : My recent introduction into the world of NEXT has not been a happy : one! : I am trying to install Openstep 4.1 onto a Pentium Pro 200 with two : Quantum Fireball 3200 3.2 gig SCSI disks. : : [...] : : I would be very happy if I could get Next just to do the logical thing : and split each disk in half or to have a 2 gig first partition and a : 1.2 gig second partition on each disk. I dont need any other operating : system on this machine as its for a specific Next application (Animo). : Has anyone any ideas? Please? Try this: Install OpenStep on Disk A (sd0). (I assume this is already done.) Run fdisk on Disk B (sd1), first deleting all partitions then creating a single NeXT partition which fills the disk. Run "disk -i -p 4000000 /dev/rsd1h" to initialize Disk B with the first partition size set to 4000000 blocks (2GB) and the second holding any remaining space. (Watch the diagnostic output. If the size it's using for the first partition is wrong, abort with Control-C and retry the command, adjusting the block count appropriately. I think 4000000 might overflow, so you might try 3800000 or something.) Mount Disk B's first partition: "mount -v /dev/sd1a /DiskB". Copy the first partition of Disk A to Disk B with the command: dump 0f - / | (cd /DiskB; restore rf -) Shut down your machine, renumber your SCSI disks so Disk B is sd0 and Disk A is sd1 (so you can boot off Disk B and play with Disk A), and repeat the above procedure to set up Disk A as desired. Hope this helps! -- Ken Case kc@omnigroup.com Omni Development, Inc. http://www.omnigroup.com
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NO DAMN ANSWER FROM PEANUTS SOFTWARE !!! Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:01:10 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <01bc2588$8a23e740$26564ec2@vanessa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39316.thr-d426f8.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>samir@interpac.be,UseNet writes:</bold> >Nobody is doing anything at Peanuts Software to improve the >Next-Step/Openstep >community !! >I've tried for more than 3 times to purchase the The Peanuts Archive Disc >(PAD) NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FTP-Archive with E-mails and faxes, and nobody is >answering !!! >What the Hell is going on there !! If they want to be A REFerence in the >Next/Openstep >world they need to improve they services URGENTLY !!!! >I naďvly hope this message will improve the quality of the services !! Hmmm. I sent them a check in US funds and received my discs within 10 days. Perhaps because I didn't swear at them... -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@osfpop.isc.rit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:10:26 GMT Organization: Industrial Engieering Message-ID: <5f5eqi$1h1@news.isc.rit.edu> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) wrote: >Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: >: I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing >Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with >Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI >database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... When the first graphic comes up on the screen (something like checking hardware) hold down the command key and press the ~ key (in the numeric keypad section of the keyboard) This should get you a prompt that looks like: NEXT> Type: bsd -s hit <ENTER> This should boot from your scsi device (hard disk) in single user mode. I think the NeXTanswer that deals with this is called power on? best o' luck >========================================================================== >Winfried Bergmann | >Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper >i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page >==========================================================================
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeXT 3.3 Driver for PCMCIA ATA Drives ? Date: 28 Feb 1997 00:08:39 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Message-ID: <5f57m7$q9m@news.4dcomm.com> Keywords: PCMCIA touchscreen Driver Has anybody ever seen a NeXT Driver (v3.3) for those handy little ATAPI PCCard/Hard Drives that seem so popular on portables these days ? :) It seems kind of backwards that there is ready support for the Adaptec SlimSCSI but not the far more common (IDE on on a card). It can't be as easy as just using PCMCIABus, PCIC, and EIDE can it ? On a related note (to me), are there any touchscreen drivers out there besides that Wacom version. Thanks in advance, da bisk
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Date: 28 Feb 97 12:24:17 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb28122417@slave.one.net> References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> In-reply-to: roland@onevision.de's message of Fri, 28 Feb 1997 10:59:26 GMT In article <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de>, roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) writes: So I tried to contact systemix (vendor of Safetynet) in order to ask whether there is a new version. But I didn't got any response right now. Are they still alive ? My Emails didn't bounce. Their web page seems to be very old, too. Keep trying. I talked, via email, with Brian not too long ago (month, two months?), and systemix recently posted on csn.announce. More than likely, he's just like me - I have a "real" job, which often takes precedence over secondary (and low-money) pursuits. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: deniseh@nntp.best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Re: Q:Reporting tool Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Date: 28 Feb 1997 19:11:42 GMT Message-ID: <5f7ale$7ra$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Juergen Moellenhoff (jurgen@oic.de) wrote: : Hi, : I'm looking for reporting tools, but I don't know which report writers are : available for OPENSTEP 4.x/Mach and EOF? Can someone give me an : advice which tools are available (and usable)? If you mean database reporting tools, check out CompleteAccess by Ocean Software (info@oceansoft.com) or DaTASMITH by BLaCKSMITH (info@blacksmith.com). They are both outstanding. I don't know what their availability is for OPENSTEP (as opposed to NEXTSTEP), though. Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: seeking alastair@Black_Albatross.otago.ac.nz Date: 28 Feb 1997 19:32:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5f7bsp$6fp@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Seeking the author of ScanMaker.app, who appararently is no longer at the above address, to talk about his app. Thanks for any info Babak Ashrafi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: SBook (does any still use this?) bug help Message-ID: <edewE6BxEs.838@netcom.com> Sender: edew@netcom12.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:11:16 GMT Ordinarily, I'd ask Sarrus Software, but I don't know if they're still around (although there's no harm in trying...). Anyway, I'm using SBook 3.1. The bug is when I click on the envelope icon (next to the address in the content field of an addresse). What happens is that if I muck with the size of the envelope printer panel (which comes up when i click on the envelope icon), the next time I launch the app and use the envelope icon, I get the envelope printer panel sized wrong. What is wrong? Well, about 50% of the panel is useless panelling. The envelope image field is reduced to some small amount. I have asked Sarrus about this and they told me what to do, but I have forgotten it. It was something like typing "dwrite NXApps sbook.app" or something like that on a command line. Can someone tell me what is the correct incantation? Since I don't read this newsgroup TOO often, perhaps respondees can cc the answer to me at edew@netcom.com. Thanks, EDEW
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Backup Software - SafetyNet Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:47:50 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5f7nam$5s2@dropit.pgh.net> References: <E6B7v2.Bx2@onevision.de> <1997Feb28.093029.26302@roper.uwyo.edu> > I think they are still alive. I have been using their backup software for > over a year and it is just great! > Anyway, they posted version 2.51 on ftp-peak and announced a special pricing > policy for the next few weeks. I therefore think that they are still > around... Is that 2.51 or 2.5r1? I have the latter, but I don't want to spend a lot of tme downloading something I already have.. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software Subject: Please help! How do I install a printer? Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:48:15 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5f7nbf$jat$2@lynet.de> Hello, I've been using OS/2 for the last 3 years, wich was fine. But I all the time thought about a change to a MultiUser-OS and when Apple made the deal with Next, I decided that OpenStep is the system for me. So I purchased a User + Dev. Version 4.1 and succeeded to install it on my PC (Intel Pentium). But what to do now. There's nearly no printed documentation, and I do not know how to print something. - How do I install a printer? I would like to connect to the Internet and get a driver for my ELSA 2000 AVI. - Is there a driver for that adapter out there? - What about an WWW-Browser and dialer to establish a PPP-Connection to my Provider. I would really appreciate, if someone could help me with that. The questions may sound stupid, so you see, I'm really a newcomer to OpenStep. Thanks in advance Andreas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Message-ID: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> From: Eric Hermanson <eric@running-start.com> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:58:41 -0800 Organization: Running Start, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are several problems: 1. I haven't been able to find an application that goes from .tiff --> .ico that runs on Windows or NEXTSTEP. If I could find an app that does this, that would be great! 2. Assuming I won't be able to find a solution for #1, I'm also trying to find a Windows program that will read in NEXTSTEP .tiff files and convert them to .bmp or even .gif. I'm assuming it might be easier to find an app that goes from .bmp to .ico. 3. If I can get #2, I still need the .bmp --> .ico converter! If anyone has experience converting NeXT .tiff images (which may or may not contain alpha transparency) into Windows .ico files, please drop me a line. Thanks, Eric -- Running Start, Inc. * Ask About Our Software For: "The Enterprise Developer's Developer" * Workflow http://www.running-start.com * Web Commerce +1-520-760-4890 (4891 FAX) * Request Resolution eric@running-start.com * OPENSTEP/WebObjects/JAVA ================================ Homer Simpson Quote of the Week: Homer: (Offering Lisa a donut.) Donut? Lisa: Uhh... got any fruit? Homer: This one has purple in it. Purple's a fruit.
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