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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 30 Sep 1997 23:39:44 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I downloaded it, it's 39 megs. Now I can't get it to unpack. How do I do this? I send it to Opener.app and the swapping goes nutty. Has anyone else downloaded this? How big is it when un-compressed? TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: joe@tact.dyn.ml.org (Joe Blanchard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep time fix !?!! Date: 1 Oct 1997 00:10:57 GMT Organization: Porno for hire Message-ID: <60s4eh$cuv$1@news3.atl.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm running OpenStep 4.1 on an Intel machine along with Linux and whenever I boot into OpenStep, my clock gets shifted by 6 hours. I found a patch on some ftp site but like a dumbass, I didn't make a copy of it and now I need it again. Does anybody know where I can find this patch? -- [ Brian Wotring ] : prak@usl.edu : http://tact.dyn.ml.org --
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep time fix !?!! Date: 1 Oct 1997 02:04:18 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60sb32$lf5$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60s4eh$cuv$1@news3.atl.bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: joe@tact.dyn.ml.org In <60s4eh$cuv$1@news3.atl.bellsouth.net> Joe Blanchard wrote: > I'm running OpenStep 4.1 on an Intel machine along with Linux and whenever > I boot into OpenStep, my clock gets shifted by 6 hours. I found a patch on some > ftp site but like a dumbass, I didn't make a copy of it and now I need it > again. Does anybody know where I can find this patch? I think this is what you want: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/clocks/TimeShift.I.bs.tar.gz TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <60mdr1$l1c$8988@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Control: cancel <60mdr1$l1c$8988@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Date: 01 Oct 1997 04:42:19 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60mdr1$l1c$8988@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Sender: DHEA STOP AGING<garneryt@inspace.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Bart Blanquart <bt@argo.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Backing up NS 3.3 user Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 15:30:32 +0200 Organization: Autonome Raad voor het GemeenschapsOnderwijs (Argo) Message-ID: <34325078.B7030F2E@argo.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I just received a station with NS 3.3 installed. I didn't get any discs/cd-rom so I would like to back up the system as it is now (in a way that I can reinstall the system when/if I trash it). Can this be done, and if so, how? tia, bt
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 1 Oct 1997 17:00:37 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > I downloaded it, it's 39 megs. > > Now I can't get it to unpack. How do I do this? I send it to Opener.app and > the swapping goes nutty. > > Has anyone else downloaded this? How big is it when un-compressed? It's not the movie, it's the braindead convention of compressing (.sea = StuffIt) a compressed movie and then wrapping it into the Mac's equivalent of uuencode (hqx). Chances are that the whole file will need (rough guess) 60-80 MB to uncompress, maybe even more. Note that you cannot uncompress it on NEXTSTEP, since the StuffIt compression is proprietary and uncompressors are only available for 'supported platforms'. You might have luck with StuffIt on a Windows or Mac box. If you succeed, could you please put it on PEAK in uncompresed form? (provided that NEXTIME groks it) Maybe we will see the day when everybody at Apple has understood that stupid crap like StuffIt is one of the reasons NOT to buy a Mac, despite StuffIt's 'ease of use'. Holger -- holger"at"object-factory.com (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: escape@paranoia.com (Mike Watts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: dump/restore filesystem Date: 1 Oct 1997 20:26:13 GMT Organization: Praxsys System Development Message-ID: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> I have an intel/4.2 machine with an IDE and a SCSI drive. I would like to dump the filesystem from the IDE drive to the SCSI drive. The command I have formulated is: dump 0f - / | (cd /disk; restore xf -) the SCSI drive has been newfs'd and mounted at /disk When I run this command, I get stuff like "Tape is not a dump tape" or "Could not read disk label" and it stops the dump. No amount of tweaking seems to make any difference, and the command is taken just about verbatim from the restore man page. Any ideas? thanks, mike -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-J o h n M i c h a e l W a t t s-=-=-=-=-=-=-= =-= escape@paranoia.com http://www.paranoia.com/~escape/ -=-= =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "El Riesgo Siempre Vive" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 1 Oct 1997 22:07:32 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette (holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com) wrote: : on PEAK in uncompresed form? (provided that NEXTIME groks it) : Are there any freeware/shareware QuickTime viewers out there? (AFAIK, NextTime is no longer available) FWIW, I still haven't found anything decent for .mov or .avi :-( (wonders what the Spirt of Xmas would look like on my Mono Slab) Gripe: the peanuts and peak archives need a file in each directory that describe what the rest of the files are(short description of what they do) I know that this probably sounds silly, but... -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed|
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: dump/restore filesystem Date: 2 Oct 1997 00:17:37 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <60up71$gmq$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <60ubl5$rb4$1@e4000.supernews.com> On 10/01/97, Mike Watts wrote: > I have an intel/4.2 machine with an IDE and a SCSI >drive. I would like to dump the filesystem from the IDE drive >to the SCSI drive. The command I have formulated is: > >dump 0f - / | (cd /disk; restore xf -) > >the SCSI drive has been newfs'd and mounted at /disk Being tape-oriented, dump seems to like to have the s arg supplied, and I have always used the old default tape length of 120000. The following has always worked fine for me, under NS 3.0 -> 3.3. I don't have 4.2 installed. dump 0ufs - 120000 / |(cd /disk; restore -xf -) On Intel machines, you sometimes get a "broken pipe" error at the end of the session, unless you do the above in single-user mode. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:34:13 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971001172711.22921B-100000@kira> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Josh Hesse <00093182@bigred.unl.edu> In-Reply-To: <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> On 1 Oct 1997, Josh Hesse wrote: > Gripe: the peanuts and peak archives need a file in each directory that > describe what the rest of the files are(short description of what they do) > I know that this probably sounds silly, but... Each file should have its own README. Trying to keep up with a `master Readme' in each directory would be a logistical nightmare... there are 346 directories in the NeXT part of the archive on PEAK, and probably more on Peanuts. TjL ps -- I tried to unpack that file again using Opener.app and my swap shot up 200 megs in a matter of minutes and locked up my system. If someone else would give this a try I'd really appreciate it!
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hey Josh Hesse (Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:55:45 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971001174125.25184A-100000@kira> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> You misspelled 'received' wrong three times in your auto-responder message. You also misspelled 'receive', 'autoresponder' (typo), and 'warranty'. You also misspelled 'autoresponse' twice, once in the singular and once in the plural. (I think you used 'ei' where you meant 'ie' under the number 3 of "How do I get a cool autoresoponder like this one?" If you can, I would add a line 'Precedence: bulk' to the headers of your reply. I would have sent this to you by email, but I had no idea what your email address actually was. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <60v1a0$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Control: cancel <60v1a0$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Date: 02 Oct 1997 02:40:42 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60v1a0$i6i@ns2.borg.com> Sender: <sunbrst9@borg.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: me <nickle@spintheweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS sighting Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 20:55:06 -0600 Organization: your mom Message-ID: <34330D0A.3E718D99@spintheweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm cruising through the old Best Buy looking for k-rad goodies and I found something interesting. For once anyhow. AT&T wireless is using NeXTStep for it's activation system. It is running on some sort of PC (looks like a NCR) and is connected to a cisco 1000 router which in turn is connected to a 56k csu/dsu. Pretty cool all in all. M
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hey Josh Hesse (Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx) Date: 2 Oct 1997 05:30:36 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60vbhs$bvg@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.971001174125.25184A-100000@kira> Oh, sorry. For what it's worth, I haven't even looked at the autoresponder message for about 6 months. (my "ie" has gotten much better in the last few months) Curiously, I get much less spam here then at my other account. Coincidence? You are quite right though, it would be unmanageable. Now if they all had readme's outside of the .tar.gz... My other address is the heavily munged thing at the end of my .sig -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed|
From: Christian Richter <christian.richter@stud.uni-hannover.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Installing problems 3.3 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 10:07:24 +0200 Organization: RRZN - Newsserver Message-ID: <3433563C.1133E3D6@stud.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello out there, I just tried to install 3.3 on a Pentium 233 system with a 2940, 3HDs (ID 2-4) and 2 CDROMs (Plex12 and NEC, ID0 and 1) attached to it. I like to place NeXt on HD0. When arriving at that point where to choose the HD on which I like to install NeXt the installation finishes with a "memory fault", or with "bogus disk information". Installing it on a extra IDE drive everything is fine. After changing configuration it looks that it is a problem of the Plex12 CD-ROM. When I get re-connected NeXt ends in a "system panic" because of cannot mounting root. Whats all this about and how can I get rid of it? Can anybody help? Thank you, Christian ======================================== < CRC² > = CHRISTIAN RICHTER FON: +49 511 848 3737 FAX: +49 511 848 3738 eMail: Christian.Richter@stud.uni-hannover.de ===================================================
From: hank@rhein-zeitung.de (Hank Hampel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Installing problems 3.3 Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 10:29:35 GMT Organization: Rhein-Zeitung Message-ID: <60vt2o$t56$1@news.rhein-zeitung.de> References: <3433563C.1133E3D6@stud.uni-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Christian! Christian Richter <christian.richter@stud.uni-hannover.de> wrote: >I just tried to install 3.3 on a Pentium 233 system with a 2940, 3HDs >(ID 2-4) and 2 CDROMs (Plex12 and NEC, ID0 and 1) attached to it. I like I think this is the main problem. You should use SCSI-ID 0-2 for your HDs and 3-4 for your CDROMs - at least= =20 ID 0 should be a HD. Sincerely Yours -Hank- --=20 Hank Hampel, Rhein-Zeitung/RZ-Online, August-Horch-Str. 28, D-56070 Koblenz eMail: hank@rhein-zeitung.de MIME/PGP (RSA or DSS/Diffie-Hellman) welcome URL: http://rhein-zeitung.de/~hank/ see pgp.html for my Public-PGP-Key PGP-Fingerprint: 97BD 6278 B1D4 0C6C 08BF 956E 93EE 0985 75BE 43CC
From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Installing problems 3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 2 Oct 1997 10:32:54 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <60vt8m$faq4@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <3433563C.1133E3D6@stud.uni-hannover.de> Christian Richter (christian.richter@stud.uni-hannover.de) wrote: : Hello out there, Hello, : : I just tried to install 3.3 on a Pentium 233 system with a 2940, 3HDs : (ID 2-4) and 2 CDROMs (Plex12 and NEC, ID0 and 1) attached to it. I like : to place NeXt on HD0. When arriving at that point where to choose the HD : on which I like to install NeXt the installation finishes with a "memory : fault", or with "bogus disk information". : Installing it on a extra IDE drive everything is fine. : After changing configuration it looks that it is a problem of the Plex12 : CD-ROM. When I get re-connected NeXt ends in a "system panic" because of : cannot mounting root. : : Whats all this about and how can I get rid of it? Can anybody help? try to reconfigure the system such that the CD-drives come 'after' the disks, at least the first one, otherwise the system might trie to install to sd0 which is a CD (read-only) and at least after installation '/etc/fstab' will have the wrong entry (/dev/sd0). Use (e.g.) IDs 5 and 6. Plextor 12x itself should run fine, I think we have some installed with PPros 200. : : Thank you, : Christian You're welcome, Ruediger -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 2 Oct 1997 10:50:46 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <60vua6$l44$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > However, I learned something rather interesting, which seems to be true. The > FTP protocol tries to be nice to you by not using all of the available > bandwidth. The assumption being, I suppose, that if you are downloading a > huge file, you might want to use the connection for other things as well. Hate to say this, but someone has been telling you porkies. ftp just opens a socket and uses all the available bandwidth that it can. This can be easily verified in about 5 minutes by looking at the source to ftp and ftpd. If you are seeing an effect and it;s not just your imagination then it could be due to buffer sizes in ftp or some other protocol overhead. On the other hand I just tried some rudimentary timings here dragging a 15MB file off a NeXT cube (not the worlds fastest machine) to my PC and got identical throughput for both ftp and http. So I suspect that theres a certain degree of wishful thinking going on here.. -bat.
From: gladen@niehs.nih.gov (Beth Gladen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 08:43:19 -0400 Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote: > (.sea = StuffIt) Actually, the usual Mac convention is: .sea = self-extracting archive .sit = Stuffit A .sea file has uncompressing code built into the file (you double-click it to expand it), while a .sit file requires an uncompressing program (stuffit expander being a common freeware solution). I don't know whether either can be uncompressed on NeXT, but you may have better luck if you know which you are dealing with. Beth Gladen, gladen@niehs.nih.gov
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hey Josh Hesse (Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx) Date: 2 Oct 1997 12:49:23 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61058j$33c$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <60uhj4$bmc@crcnis3.unl.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.971001174125.25184A-100000@kira> <60vbhs$bvg@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <60vbhs$bvg@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > Curiously, I get much less spam here then at my other account. Coincidence? Of course not. > You are quite right though, it would be unmanageable. Now if they all had > readme's outside of the .tar.gz... Well, all of the recent files do... ``recent'' being defined as the last... wow *year* that I've been working at Peak. Times flies ;-) Feel free to let me know what apps are missing them... I usually try to yank the README out of the .tar.gz when I notice their absence. > My other address is the heavily munged thing at the end of my .sig I still don't know what that translates to.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS sighting Date: 2 Oct 1997 12:52:35 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6105ej$33c$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34330D0A.3E718D99@spintheweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AT&T Wireless is a big-time NeXTStep user. They are a client of OmniGroup, Inc (http://www.omnigroup.com). It is cool. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT computers Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EHE5Aq.GMF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 21:06:26 GMT References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970928024207.891A-100000@PoopDeck.org> <60r0l7$kuk$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <60r0l7$kuk$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> wrote: >On 09/27/97, Ryan Hughes wrote: > >> Does that mean >>that NeXT follows the Mac philosophy of keeping your architecture >>secret so that development is really slow? With Linux, if somebody >>has a device they can't run, they write a driver for it. For some things you can write drivers, for others not. If you're buying a black machine you won't have to worry much as there isn't really anywhere to plug stuff in. There are drivers for everything in the box, any NeXTbus boards you're likely to come accross come with software (with the exception of the FORE ATM boards) and everything else is things like SCSI devices, which generally "just work", with a few minor caveats. >Since you don't have the kernel source code you cannot compile it. >That does not mean that you cannot write drivers. As I said, I don't >know all that much about it, but I know that folks without access to >the source have written drivers. > There's documentation on the DriverKit (non-black hardware) and Loadable Kernel Modules (all hardware) that will let you write pretty much whatever device driver you'd want. >> Tell me anything else that's cool about NeXT. > >NeXT isn't a company, or an Operating System. It's a way of thinking >and living. It's wanting the best despite the problems. It's wanting >the best look & feel, the best developing environment, and the best >community of computer users. Well said, Timothy! -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 2 Oct 1997 13:20:32 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <610730$8nr$2@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60vua6$l44$1@netty.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit -bat. wrote: > nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: > > However, I learned something rather interesting, which seems to be true. The > > FTP protocol tries to be nice to you by not using all of the available > > bandwidth. The assumption being, I suppose, that if you are downloading a > > huge file, you might want to use the connection for other things as well. > > Hate to say this, but someone has been telling you porkies. ftp just opens > a socket and uses all the available bandwidth that it can. This can be > easily verified in about 5 minutes by looking at the source to ftp and ftpd. And then someone has configured their router to prioritize packets based on the protocol, so that interactive traffic still gets a chance.. Holger -- holger"at"object-factory.com (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net> -- holger"at"object-factory.com (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: gh@middlemarch.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 12:50:24 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3433D0D0.4960@middlemarch.net> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I downloaded it, it's 39 megs. > > > > Now I can't get it to unpack. How do I do this? I send it to Opener.app > and > > the swapping goes nutty. > > > > Has anyone else downloaded this? How big is it when un-compressed? > > It's not the movie, it's the braindead convention of compressing > (.sea = StuffIt) a compressed movie and then wrapping it into the > Mac's equivalent of uuencode (hqx). Chances are that the whole file > will need (rough guess) 60-80 MB to uncompress, maybe even more. > Note that you cannot uncompress it on NEXTSTEP, since the StuffIt > compression is proprietary and uncompressors are only available > for 'supported platforms'. You might have luck with StuffIt on > a Windows or Mac box... Try using Stuffit under Ardi's Executor application. --Greg
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <34313db7.0@203.29.11.224> Control: cancel <34313db7.0@203.29.11.224> Date: 02 Oct 1997 19:39:46 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34313db7.0@203.29.11.224> Sender: info@paifers.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 2 Oct 1997 19:58:13 GMT Organization: 21st Century Software, New York City Sender: daver@138.202.213.50 Message-ID: <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 02 Oct 1997 14:58:13 CDT Cc: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com In <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: > Thanks, but doesn't that make matters only worse? I mean, a Quicktime > movie is *by definition* platform independent, and yet they still > manage to put it into an archive that will only unarchive itself > on a Mac? How stupid is that? It's pretty stupid, but typical Apple practice. I remember whining when Newton had pdfs in .sit.hqx. Fortunately I have StuffIt Expander inside Executor, but the principle is still all wrong. Either way, future.mov does not play with NEXTIME. The NTPlayer barfs with some kind of Movie Parse Error: and then some garbage characters. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net ::
From: Todd Larason <tlarason@molehill.nwpalace.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 02 Oct 1997 13:49:23 -0700 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Message-ID: <9AA88FF400DCFD8F.81BDC40973288C2A.E9A72D27A0D3366B@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Thu Oct 2 15:48:12 1997 dwy@ace.net (David Young) writes: > It's pretty stupid, but typical Apple practice. I remember whining when > Newton had pdfs in .sit.hqx. Fortunately I have StuffIt Expander inside > Executor, but the principle is still all wrong. And it has been for years. I remember when new Apple II system software was available only in .hqx format.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 3 Oct 1997 10:23:37 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <612h39$4t1$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <610730$8nr$2@leonie.object-factory.com> holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) writes: > And then someone has configured their router to prioritize > packets based on the protocol, so that interactive traffic still gets > a chance.. True - this is what happens in PPP in fact. But since HTTP isn't interactive traffic either then it will still be just as slow as FTP. The reason for prioritising interactive traffic such as telnet and rlogin is that this traffic consists of many small packets for keypresses. Anyway -I just did two simultaneous transfers of the same file from peak one using http and one using ftp. The ftp transfer beat the http transfer by a factor of 10 ! I suspect that this is due to loading on the http daemon as this willl have people browing the site as well as downloading files. ..I also note that a lot of the links I looked at for downloading files had an ftp: URL anyway and so would be using ftp even in OmniWeb. -bat.
From: ch480124@ms5.hinet.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.1 on VPC 1.01 Date: 3 Oct 1997 12:09:40 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <612na4$3u6@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-User: ch480124 I just installed Virtual PC 1.01 on my Macintosh (UMAX Apus3000). It runs Windows 95 well. Now, I want to install OpenStep 4.1 onto VPC 1.01. But it fails to locate CD-ROM drive in the process. Anybody knows which device/controller card to choose for CD-ROM in order to install it? Thanks for any tips. Chester Lin ch480124@ms5.hinet.net
From: ooss@inforamp.net (ObjectSearch Group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 16:30:36 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <34351da8.15638589@news.istar.ca> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NeXTSTEP Developers REQUIRED With 1.5 to 2 years solid development in a commercial environment Location: MID WEST U.S. area Lenght of Project: 6 months to 1+ years Desired skills: C++, Java, Sybase, financial environment Required: 1.5 to 2 years solid NeXTSTEP Please forward your resume in confidence to: Donald Lascelle ObjectSearch Group (416) 421-1940 Voice (416) 421-9244 Fax email: Don@ObjectSearch.com
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Running Color slab in Mono? Date: 3 Oct 1997 16:41:32 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EHForJ.w8@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> <EHAJ9p.EJ1@basil.icce.rug.nl> I wrote: > [There is (or used to be) a free Preferences.app module named > WindowDepth.preferences that offers an UI for this stuff. Last time I checked > it was only available for Black hardware (so you're lucky:-). To follow up on my earlier post: I checked again:-), and there is a quad-fat version (with source) available at: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/sourcelibrary/WindowDepth.bproj.NIHS.bs.tar.gz -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: Denise Howard <deniseh@shell3.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS sighting Date: 3 Oct 1997 17:42:43 GMT Organization: Remove NOSPAM to reply Message-ID: <613aqj$asc$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <34330D0A.3E718D99@spintheweb.com> me <nickle@spintheweb.com> wrote: : I'm cruising through the old Best Buy looking for k-rad goodies and I : found something interesting. For once anyhow. AT&T wireless is using : NeXTStep for it's activation system. It is running on some sort of PC : (looks like a NCR) and is connected to a cisco 1000 router which in turn : is connected to a 56k csu/dsu. Pretty cool all in all. This is thanks to McCaw Cellular, which was one of the bigger NeXTSTEP power users before McCaw was bought by AT&T a couple of years ago. Nice to see the work still going strong, isn't it? Denise -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: 3 Oct 1997 20:09:52 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <613jeg$2rp$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34351da8.15638589@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ooss@inforamp.net,Don@ObjectSearch.com This is STILL the WRONG group to post this information to. Announcements belong in comp.sys.next.announce, which is a moderated group. You can send your announcement to ``next-announce@digifix.com'' for posting. Furthermore, you misspelled ``permanent'' yet again. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: 3 Oct 1997 20:12:42 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <613jjq$7g2$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34351da8.15638589@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ooss@inforamp.net,Don@ObjectSearch.com This is STILL the WRONG group to post this information to. Announcements belong in comp.sys.next.announce, which is a moderated group. You can send your announcement to ``next-announce@digifix.com'' for posting. Furthermore, you misspelled ``permanent'' yet again, and this time you also misspelled `length'. TjL [ apologies if this came through twice, there was some posting error (write timeout), and then I saw the second misspelling ] -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cube won't powerdown Date: 3 Oct 97 22:02:21 GMT Organization: [poster's organization not specified] Message-ID: <34356b6d.0@news.carleton.edu> I have a cube that won't shut off with the Power key. I've been having some disk problems. Will a new disk solve the problem? Is it a motherboard problem? The Power key works to prepare for shut down, but I have the cmd-cmd-~ to shut it off. This is annoying because it causes a disk check to take place. Could I be missing a needed file? I've also had crashes after a few hours of use without adm messages. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks. Roger Kirchner
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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <041097003921@justdoit17.com> Date: 4 Oct 1997 07:57:31 GMT Control: cancel <041097003921@justdoit17.com> Message-ID: <cancel.041097003921@justdoit17.com> Sender: "$OFTWARE" forless@justdoit17.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cube won't powerdown Message-ID: <EHJIIr.Mq@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34356b6d.0@news.carleton.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 18:40:03 GMT In article <34356b6d.0@news.carleton.edu> rkirchne@mathcs.carleton.edu (Roger Kirchner) writes: > I have a cube that won't shut off with the Power key. I've been having > some disk problems. Will a new disk solve the problem? Is it a > motherboard problem? The Power key works to prepare for shut down, but > I have the cmd-cmd-~ to shut it off. This is annoying because it > causes a disk check to take place. > > Could I be missing a needed file? I've also had crashes after a few > hours of use without adm messages. > You have one or more hanging processes. Well known problems come from serial lines connected to powered down devices. But there are even more possibilities. Early verions of OmniWeb were said to cause similar behaviour, for instance. You'll probably have to run down processes by hand (after all apps except Terminal are terminated properly) and see waht might cause the problem. If you can't find any apparent cause you probably need to eperiment, bringing down some apps or processes manually and see if the machine shuts down cleanly, afterwards. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Backing up NS 3.3 user Message-ID: <EHJI4u.KG@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34325078.B7030F2E@argo.be> Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 18:31:42 GMT In article <34325078.B7030F2E@argo.be> Bart Blanquart <bt@argo.be> writes: > Hello, > > I just received a station with NS 3.3 installed. I didn't get any > discs/cd-rom so I would like to back up the system as it is now (in a > way that I can reinstall the system when/if I trash it). > The only way to do so would be to build a second boot disk and copy everything over. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <27562875419231@digifix.com> Date: 5 Oct 1997 03:49:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10325876024022@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.nsc.32k From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <3437BE8A.1833@worldnet.att.net> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:30:08 GMT Sender: MIke Downey <downey1@worldnet.att.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: multi OS Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 06:48:42 GMT Message-ID: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to install OpenStep 4.2, NT4 Server, Linux and Win95 on the same drive. Any tips on the best way to do this? Paul
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ZIP Drives Date: 6 Oct 1997 03:57:11 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <619nin$oha$9@news.platinum.com> References: <01bccc18$2d0adfa0$645f7ec2@charlie-dont-su> Cc: zsyed@globalnet.co.uk In <01bccc18$2d0adfa0$645f7ec2@charlie-dont-su> "Zam Syed" wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone know if it possible to use a Parallel port Zip drive on an > Intel with NeXTSTEP 3.3? I think you'll need to get the SCSI version of the Zip drive. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | | y W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 6 Oct 1997 12:15:08 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) wrote: >In <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >> Thanks, but doesn't that make matters only worse? I mean, a Quicktime >> movie is *by definition* platform independent, and yet they still >> manage to put it into an archive that will only unarchive itself >> on a Mac? How stupid is that? > >It's pretty stupid, but typical Apple practice. I remember whining when >Newton had pdfs in .sit.hqx. Fortunately I have StuffIt Expander inside >Executor, but the principle is still all wrong. > >Either way, future.mov does not play with NEXTIME. The NTPlayer barfs with >some kind of Movie Parse Error: and then some garbage characters. > >-- >:: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: > Three things: 1) future.mov plays with NEXTIME 1.0 here on our Intel NS3.3 machine 2) If the policy about Rhapsody is as logical as the policy about packing stuff than: good night! The movie needs about 28MB compressed with gnuzip and about 39MB with stopfit ... (what should I say more, after waiting half an hour for an old PPC unpacking a file which grows after it is unpacked from 39MB to 39MB) 3) the movie itself is a waste of time :-( (my opinion) BTW: If somebody is interested and the guys at PEAK does not have anything against it, I would upload it anyway to PEAK. :-( (depressed) -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 6 Oct 1997 12:48:56 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <61amno$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: >Three things: > >1) future.mov plays with NEXTIME 1.0 here on our Intel NS3.3 machine hmmmm ?:-/. it seems the movie only plays directly from a mac-ZIP-disk. If you copy the movie onto your harddisk it does not play any more... <<<snip>>> >BTW: If somebody is interested and the guys at PEAK does not have anything >against it, I would upload it anyway to PEAK. I do not know if this make sense any more. If somebody knows something about this strange behavior of NEXTIME (It plays a movie on a NeXTmachine only if it was copied from a Mac to a mac-ZIP-disk. After renaming the file or copying or any manipulation NEXTIME gives you a Parse-error.) I would like to hear of some solution ... :-(( (even more depressed) Sven --- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: "Britt Jensen" <dbjensen@usgypsum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Web browser on Cube/3.2 Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:47:53 -0500 Organization: Genuity Inc. Phoenix, AZ Message-ID: <61bje6$c0$1@news.genuity.net> Greetings: I am new to the Next world, and have a Cube running 3.2. Is it possible to run PPP, or failing that, SLIP? Is there a web browser available? Is the built in mail client smtp/pop3 compatible? Sorry about the deluge of questions, I am excited by NextStep! Thanks, Britt dbjensen@usgypsum.com
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Web browser on Cube/3.2 Date: 7 Oct 1997 01:35:31 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61c3l3$ps5$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61bje6$c0$1@news.genuity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dbjensen@usgypsum.com In <61bje6$c0$1@news.genuity.net> "Britt Jensen" wrote: > Greetings: > > I am new to the Next world, Welcome > and have a Cube running 3.2. Is it possible to run PPP, or failing that, > SLIP? yes get ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/dev/ppp-2.3b3.tar.gz > Is there a web browser available? yes get z and b.2.7b3.N.tar.gz > Is the built in mail client smtp/pop3 compatible? yes/no It is SMTP compatible. I'd install the new sendmail: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/sendmail.8.8.5.INSTALLATIONINSTRUCTIONS.tar.gz and PopOver: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.NIHS.bd.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/mail/PopOver.v1.5.README TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Newbie Brian Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 6 Oct 1997 18:46:27 -0700 Organization: Zippo Message-ID: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> Hi! I am new to NeXTStep and have zero UNIX experience. I have a few questions: Can I download from my Win 95 PC and then copy to my NeXTStation? How do I decompress .tar.gz files in NS 3.0? Basically how do I "install" apps that I have downloaded? How do I get a later version of Next Step? How do I setup PPP and a Web Browser? Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? thanks, Brian.
From: <sales@golightspeed.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: affordable laptop computers Date: 7 Oct 1997 03:57:29 GMT Organization: Lightspeed Technology Message-ID: <61cbv9$a3u$43@usenet88.supernews.com> Bellingham, WA - August 7, 1997 - Lightspeed Technology today announced a special promotional offer that will give their customers a free 33.6 PCMCIA Data/Fax modem with the purchase of a new Lightspeed laptop computer. The free modem will be included on all 7200 and 8700 series laptop purchases through October 31, 1997. The campaign was launched to help promote the Lightspeed 8700 series Pentium® laptop as well as the new high end 7200 series that can now be purchased with a 233Mhz Intel Pentium® Processor. In addition to blazing speeds, the 7200 offers 512k cache on board, a 4MB graphics card and an outstanding 13.3" XGA active matrix 1024 X 768 video display. The 233 MHz is currently being offered at a special price and a 4-year on-site warranty is also available on all Lightspeed purchases. Lightspeed Technology offers a full range of Pentium laptop configurations and provides speeds ranging from 133MHz to 233Mhz with MMX technology in various models. Complete 32-bit Windows NT workstations are also available. A full range of accessories including cellular compatible modems, ac car adapters and additional hard drives are also available. U.S. Sales: 1-800-234-8836. Outside U.S. 1-360-671-7662. Press information contact: William Roach Marketing Director (360)/671-7662 wroach@golightspeed.com
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <61cbv9$a3u$43@usenet88.supernews.com> Control: cancel <61cbv9$a3u$43@usenet88.supernews.com> Date: 07 Oct 1997 04:13:24 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.61cbv9$a3u$43@usenet88.supernews.com> Sender: <sales@golightspeed.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tyf@whitebox.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 6 Oct 1997 21:31:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> In-Reply-To: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> On 10/06/97, Newbie Brian wrote: >Hi! I am new to NeXTStep and have zero UNIX experience. >I have a few questions: > >Can I download from my Win 95 PC and then copy to my NeXTStation? > Yes. >How do I decompress .tar.gz files in NS 3.0? Basically how do I "install" apps >that I have downloaded? Method 1 : at ftp-next.peak.org (or is it next-ftp.peak.org?), download Opener.app.compressed. Decompress the file in WorkSpace. Method 2 : grab the binary for gzip and install it in a bin directory whose path your shell can recognize. > >How do I get a later version of Next Step? > You buy it? Either from NeXT (err ... Apple Enterprise) or from ads on c.s.n.marketplace. >How do I setup PPP and a Web Browser? > Get ppp-2.2. Going to TJL's web page for a comprenhensive guide. (http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) >Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? I think the docs say the serial port is not reliable at 56K on non-Turbo stations. But then I can never connect at 56K with my ISP anyway... > > >thanks, > Brian. >
From: Denise Howard <deniseh@shell3.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 7 Oct 1997 05:43:09 GMT Organization: Remove NOSPAM to reply Message-ID: <61ci5d$4nf$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Tin-Yau Fung <tyf@whitebox.primenet.com> wrote: : >How do I decompress .tar.gz files in NS 3.0? Basically how do I : "install" apps : >that I have downloaded? : Method 1 : at ftp-next.peak.org (or is it next-ftp.peak.org?), : download Opener.app.compressed. Decompress the file in WorkSpace. Well to add a little more detail to this.... Once you've decompressed Opener.app, put it in /LocalApps. Can't remember if you need to log out and back in again for it to take effect, so do so--never hurts. From that point on, all you'll ever have to do to unarchive most mysterious file formats is double-click on the icon of the file in question. Opener will auto-launch and do the rest. No more user-figuring-out of the right command-line options. Opener understands quite an array of formats--see its online help for more info. You can also use Opener to _create_ archive files of most of those same types, by dropping files onto Opener's running app icon. It will pop up a little window asking what you have in mind. Best of all, it's FREEWARE. Have fun! Denise (Opener's mom) -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 7 Oct 1997 05:39:39 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <61chur$ln5@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Tin-Yau Fung (tyf@whitebox.primenet.com) wrote: : : Method 2 : grab the binary for gzip and install it in a bin : directory whose path your shell can recognize. : : Did they not include gzip/gunzip with NS3.0? -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed|
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <343A37E4.1E78@cyberdude.com> Control: cancel <343A37E4.1E78@cyberdude.com> Date: 07 Oct 1997 12:25:44 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.343A37E4.1E78@cyberdude.com> Sender: DADLE <trondatle@cyberdude.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: DADLE <trondatle@cyberdude.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: $$$$mAKE MONEY REALLY FAST!!! THE BEST WAY!!!! rEAD THIS!!!$$$$ Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 14:23:53 +0100 Organization: AOL Message-ID: <343A37E9.37F2@cyberdude.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Take two minutes to read this and it WILL change your life. I just read an article in an internet newsgroup describing how to make $50,000.00 in only one month from a $5.00 investment. Of course I thought this was rediculous ,or some type of pyramid. I talked it over with my family, an attorney, and my friends, and they all agreed it was some sort of scam.I hate scams because usually someone gets burned, and I didn't want it to be me! I blew it off for a few weeks then saw another one in a newsgroup I go to alot and thought, "Maybe this is legitimate!". Besides, whats $5.00 , I spend more than that in the morning on my way to work on coffee and cigs for the day. Well, two weeks later,I began recieving money in the mail!I couldn't believe it! Not just a little , I mean big bucks!At first only a few hundred dollars, then a week later, a couple of thousand , then it EXPLODED!! . By the end of the fourth week , I had recieved nearly $39,000.00. It came from all over the world and every bit of it perfectly legal and on the up and up. I've been able to pay off all my bills and still had enough left over for a nice vacation for me and my family.Not only does it work for me, it works for other folks as well. Markus Valppu says he made $57,883 in four weeks. Dave Manning claims he made $53,664 in the same amount of time. Dan Shepstone says it was only $17,000 for him. Do I know these folks? No, but when I read how they say they did it, it made sense to me. Enough sense that I'm taking a similar chance with $5 of my own money. Not a big chance, I admit--but one with incredible potential, because $5 is all anyone ever invests in this system. Period. That's all Markus, Dave, or Dan invested, yet their $5 netted them tens of thousands of dollars each, in a safe, legal, completely legitimate way. Here's how it works in 3 easy steps: STEP 1. Invest your $5 by writing your name and address on five seperate pieces of paper along with the words, "PLEASE ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST." (In this way, you're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're paying for a legitimate service.) Fold a $1 bill, money order,or bank note inside each paper, and mail them by standard U. S. Mail to the following five addresses: 1. Joseph Frank 333 East Broadway #8 Loveland, Ohio USA 45140 2. Duet Thompson 6 Strathconan Drv Toowoomba, Qld, Aust, 4350 AUS$ 3. Ronald Hovens Moutzhofweg 140 5926 RB Venlo The Netherlands 4. Bruce Fuller 293 Chestnut Street Chillicothe, Ohio 45601 USA 5. Trond Atle Skarning Fabakkveien 8 4812 Kongshamn Norway STEP 2. Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up.This way, #5 becomes #4 and so on. Put your name in as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3. Post the article to at least 200 newsgroups. There are at least 17000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can.Remember the more groups you post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash! STEP 4. You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 200 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right,only 5. You make $5.00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 200 additional postings with your name at #4, 1000 postings.On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at #4,....$50.00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 200 postings each with your name at #3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people= $500. They make 200 postings each with your name at #2= 100,000 postings=5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings each with your name at #1 and you get a return of $50,000 before your name drops off the list.And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 200 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list, you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works. There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it.Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily.Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be. REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY.YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE MONEY! GOOD LUCK TO ALL,AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! ---------------------------------- FOR NETSCAPE USERS : 1. Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message bow. 2. Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye !!! 3. now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number #5 and move the rest up) 4. When you’ re done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on ‘FILE’ above the send button. Then, ‘SAVE AS .. ’ DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU SAVE IT. (SO you don’t have to type this 200 times ! : - ) 5. now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy !! (click the ‘SEND’ button in the top left corner). 6. This is where you post all 200 ! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the ‘TO NEWS’ button again. Type in your flashy subject in the ‘SUBJECT BOX’ , then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now, click on ‘ATTACHMENT’ which is right below the ‘SUBJECT BOX’. Click on the attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click ‘OPEN’ then click ‘OK’. If you did this right you should see your filename in the ‘ATTACHMENT BOX’ and it will be shaded. 7. NOW POST AWAY !!! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER : It’s just as EASY, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the ‘CTRL’ key and ‘C’ at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroup and press ‘POST AN ARTICLE’ type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press ‘CTRL’ and ‘V’ and the article will appear in the message window!! **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES. Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes … then all you have to do for each newsgroup is ‘CTRL’ and ‘V’ and press ‘POST’. It’s that EASY!! That’s it! ALL you have to do is jump to a different newsgroup and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take you about 30 seconds for each newsgroup !! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUP YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST THE MINIMUM OF 200 **If these instruction are too complex to follow, try Forte’s ‘ FreeAgent." It is freeware for non-commercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it. That’s it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a PO BOX due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE ADDRESS ARE CORRECT*** NOW, the WHY part : This entire principle works because it is a format of an upside down (inverted) tree with thousands of branches. Everyone below you will see it that the tree continuous because they want to get money. Those below THEM will continues because they want to get the cash etc. Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example) So then I made $5.00 with my name at the #5 on the letter. Now; each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 posts with my name at #3 and only 5 respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the FUN part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM of 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00 !! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING !! And as I said, 5 responses is actually per person. Here is what you will make : at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 !! When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroup, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 and start posting again! The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the INTERNET and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU ARE NOW! And this will go on and on and on … get the picture? Well. ‘ there’s 5.000.000 people on the world and most of them will eventually end up being hooked into the internet. SO there are virtually unlimited resources. Of course this will work the best at the very beginning so the faster you post, the better for YOU! REMEMBER, THIS IS ONLY STARTING TO GO OUTSIDE THE STATES AND THERE’RE MILLIONS OF INTERNET USERS ALL AROUND THE WORLD THAT HAVE NOT READ THIS YET .. SO PASS IT ON!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so! People have said, ‘what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what ! ! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest people users and new honest works ?? I think so … people have said, ‘what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what !! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the INTERNET and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try?! Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, everyday, with thousands of those joining the actual INTERNET. REMEMBER … play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will WORK! You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroup to make sure everyone is playing fairly. REMEMBER, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY!!! It’s only $5.00 that you’ll ever spend! You don’t need to cheat the basic idea to make the money! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and only made about $50.00, and that’s after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills; people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had made thousands OK! This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but a little of our time!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again !!! … REMEMBER, YOU COULD BE RICH TOO !! BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF ALL PLAY BY THE RULES Ok! GOOD LUCK AND ALL THE VERY BEST TO ALL OF YOU !!!!!!!!
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <343A37E9.37F2@cyberdude.com> Control: cancel <343A37E9.37F2@cyberdude.com> Date: 07 Oct 1997 12:25:50 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.343A37E9.37F2@cyberdude.com> Sender: DADLE <trondatle@cyberdude.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 7 Oct 1997 13:35:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61ddqj$bp1$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tyf@whitebox.primenet.com,deniseh@best.com In <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Tin-Yau Fung wrote: > Method 1 : at ftp-next.peak.org (or is it next-ftp.peak.org?), > download Opener.app.compressed. Decompress the file in WorkSpace. It is ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ There is no 'compressed' version of Opener.app on our site. There is a tar.Z version. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener.3.3.N.b.tar.Z Will that run under 3.0? (Denise?) I am under the impression that something pretty major changed after 3.0 that some/many post 3.0 files will not run under 3.0.... is that true? In <61chur$ln5@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > Did they not include gzip/gunzip with NS3.0? No, I think it arrived with 3.2... maybe 3.1.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 2 Oct 1997 18:59:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <610qu0$h7p$1@news.digifix.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> In-Reply-To: <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> On 10/02/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >Beth Gladen wrote: >> holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote: >> >> > (.sea = StuffIt) >> >> Actually, the usual Mac convention is: >> .sea = self-extracting archive >> .sit = Stuffit >> A .sea file has uncompressing code built into the file (you double-click >> it to expand it), while a .sit file requires an uncompressing program >> (stuffit expander being a common freeware solution). I don't know whether >> either can be uncompressed on NeXT, but you may have better luck if you >> know which you are dealing with. > >Thanks, but doesn't that make matters only worse? I mean, a Quicktime >movie is *by definition* platform independent, and yet they still >manage to put it into an archive that will only unarchive itself >on a Mac? How stupid is that? Not only that, but HQX makes the files substantially bigger, since its the uuencode equiv. in the Mac world. MacBinary would be a much better option... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: mutli-boot Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 17:37:38 GMT Message-ID: <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a FAQ describing how to multi boot OpenStep 4.2 with NT and 95? Paul
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 7 Oct 1997 17:41:48 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EHnAvx.Fps@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <61amno$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: > hmmmm ?:-/. it seems the movie only plays directly from a mac-ZIP-disk. If > you copy the movie onto your harddisk it does not play any more... > > <<<snip>>> > > If somebody knows something about this strange behavior of NEXTIME (It plays > a movie on a NeXTmachine only if it was copied from a Mac to a mac-ZIP-disk. > After renaming the file or copying or any manipulation NEXTIME gives you a > Parse-error.) I would like to hear of some solution ... Sounds like resource-fork trouble. NEXTIME probably needs information from it, and seems to barf in an obfuscated way if it can't find it. It's present on the mac disk, but is apparently not copied/renamed automatically when you copy/rename the corresponding file. There should be a <file>.rsrc or <file>.#rsrc# or something like that on the mac disk accompanyig the <file> data fork, as seen from NEXTSTEP. (I forget which, exactly -- AFAIR it's only visible in "Unix Expert" mode.) If you copy/rename that alongside the original file it should keep working (I hope:-) > :-(( (even more depressed) Right. Don't you love it? :-/ -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: eddy@west.net (Elliott W. Eddy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mutli-boot Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:00:59 -0700 Organization: Elliott W. Eddy Message-ID: <eddy-0710971100590001@term4-23.sb.west.net> References: <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk> In article <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk>, paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) wrote: > Is there a FAQ describing how to multi boot OpenStep 4.2 with NT and > 95? > > Paul try this http://www.devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude/multiple_partition.html
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cube won't powerdown Date: 7 Oct 1997 21:09:06 GMT Organization: CSUnet Distribution: usa,mars colony Message-ID: <61e8di$1ki$1@nuke.csu.net> References: <34356b6d.0@news.carleton.edu> I've noticed that it's only after I add a number of "services" that the NeXT has problems shutting down. Samba [Windows 95/NT networking] was one of those features tho' I'm not sure it was responsible. It could also be the web server or some other piece of software that refuses to top operating I suppose. Best idea is to do a builddisk on another drive, boot it and start adding services, seeing which one of them fails. Since mine has been doing this for six months now, I'm not worried enough to locate the problem. My workaround is to log in as root and type: % sync % halt This avoids the problem with rebuilding the file system during reboot which is _very_ annoying. Thomas
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <343999d7.0@199.166.219.107> Control: cancel <343999d7.0@199.166.219.107> Date: 07 Oct 1997 21:38:52 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.343999d7.0@199.166.219.107> Sender: newaccounts@stopat.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: http://www.apple.com/thinkdifferent/ad1.mov Date: 8 Oct 1997 00:05:48 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <61eios$ch3$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A 3.2 meg mov file which doesn't play under OpenStep 4.1 at least: Oct 7 20:03:09 NEXTIME[10418] Sound Media: File ad1.mov uses a missing or unusable ima4 decompressor. (0) Ah lovely..... I guess the NeXT folks aren't expected to care TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff) luomat + pine @ luomat.peak.org (for PINE related stuff)
From: "D.B. Jensen" <dbjensen@usgypsum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Exception Error- ??? Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:02:46 -0500 Organization: Genuity Inc. Phoenix, AZ Message-ID: <61eijo$n4g$1@news.genuity.net> Help! I'm a newbie to the wonderful world of Next and have a Cube. Last night when I powered the machine up, it went through a brief testing phase, then the load from disk phase whereupon it branched to a nice rom status screen. This nice screen then informed me that I was having an exception error (specifically: exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100a57a) Help! This is very repeatable & does not change/deviate from above error codes. Seems like a hardware error? Thanks, Britt dbjensen@usgypsum.com
From: "D.B. Jensen" <dbjensen@usgypsum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cdrom for Next Cube Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:10:00 -0500 Organization: Genuity Inc. Phoenix, AZ Message-ID: <61ej1h$r46$1@news.genuity.net> Hi-- What type of cdrom can I use with my Cube? Can I just use a pc style cd? Thanks, Britt dbjensen@usgypsum.com
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <343b177c.2@aries.servcom.com> Control: cancel <343b177c.2@aries.servcom.com> Date: 08 Oct 1997 06:00:48 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.343b177c.2@aries.servcom.com> Sender: william semonis<semonis@servcom.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Newbie Questions (.tar.gz files in NS 3.0?) Date: 7 Oct 1997 20:47:32 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <61e754$2i8@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <61c49j$b2o@drn.zippo.com> <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tyf@whitebox.primenet.com In <61cdu5$fn2@nntp02.primenet.com> Tin-Yau Fung wrote: > > >Can I use my US Robotics 56k modem with my NeXT Station? > > I think the docs say the serial port is not reliable at 56K on > non-Turbo stations. But then I can never connect at 56K with my ISP > anyway... That seems to depend quite a bit on the machine. I used a V33+ modem with 57600 B/s on my 25MHz slab for quite a while and didn't have any trouble. You will need a special cable, though, to make the NeXT serial ports work correctly (HW flow control). Most Mac cable, in spite of having the right plug, won't work with higher speeds. There are ready cable by certain vendors (sorry, forgot the names), or, if you want to do it yourself, there's a pinout diagram in the online docs. Use the Librarian.app to browse the SysAdmin documentation. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: paquez1332@mindspring.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Exception Error- ??? Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:59:39 GMT Organization: M I B Message-ID: <343ba967.55468203@news.mindspring.com> References: <61eijo$n4g$1@news.genuity.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:02:46 -0500, "D.B. Jensen" <dbjensen@usgypsum.com> wrote: ~Help! I'm a newbie to the wonderful world of Next and have a Cube. ~Last night when I powered the machine up, it went through a brief testing ~phase, then the load from disk phase whereupon it branched to a nice rom ~status screen. This nice screen then informed me that I was having an ~exception error (specifically: exception #2 (0x8) at 0x100a57a) ~ ~Help! ~This is very repeatable & does not change/deviate from above error codes. ~ ~Seems like a hardware error? ~ ~Thanks, ~Britt ~dbjensen@usgypsum.com ~ ~ ~ ~ This happened to me as well. There is a fair amount of information about the errors that can be found on Dejanews, and at http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1085.htmld/1085.html In summary, 1. Change your memory slots, sometimes this helps 2. Use the Vulcan Pinch to reboot 3. Remove battery, and let board reset. Other people report success in reversing the dreaded exception error. I am not one of them. There are some really helpful people that frequent this group that have suggested these solutions. to reply, please remove the digits from return address or reply to paquez at mindspring dot com sorry about the antispam
From: "Marcus Liotta" <liotta@hem.passagen.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: webobjects Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:34:14 +0200 Message-ID: <61gjlj$enp$1@news.kth.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I have a simple question concerning WebObjects 4.1 for OpenStep4.2/Intel. I wonder in what way the various .pkg:es included are packed. Is it tar.gz or tar.Z or some other compressor?
From: ptf@earthlink.com (Pat Finnigan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MIDI HW/SW search Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:56:08 -0600 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <ptf-0810971656080001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> NeXTers: I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT platform. I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any commercially available packages? And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din 8) ports? Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. 8v) patf newbie NeXTer
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cdrom for Next Cube Date: 8 Oct 1997 22:36:22 GMT Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <61h1t6$jj6$1@nuke.csu.net> References: <61ej1h$r46$1@news.genuity.net> Hi, Many scsi-cdroms will work with a NeXTStation. I even bought an older scsi drive [single speed!] for $2 that works okay. Various other faster drives work well. I think a few older ones won't. Thomas
From: Lyaeus <deh@oto.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a high-speed way to draw pixels in NS3.3 (or OS4.2)? For graphics rendering... Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:43:06 +0100 Organization: Deus Est Homo Oasis, O.T.O. Sweden Message-ID: <343E30E9.26884B87@oto.se> References: <343D3BB9.3E05@prv.com> <61ks4s$n4b$1@leonie.object-factory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik Doernenburg wrote: > Create an NSBitmapImageRep object with parameters that suit your application > and add it as a representation to an NSImage object. Now set your pixels in > the bitmap data which you can access with [NSBitmapImageRep bitmapData] and > composite the image somewhere onto your screen, with [NSImage > compositeToPoint:operation:]. This is portable and fairly fast. And what if your stuck with NXImage which doesn't have compositeToPoint? /Hakan
From: Rich Warner <rwarner@prv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a high-speed way to draw pixels in NS3.3 (or OS4.2)? For graphics rendering... Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 14:16:57 -0600 Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <343D3BB9.3E05@prv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - I've done rendering in the past using Display Postscript and drawing lines of length 1. It is too slow for rendering apps. Does anyone know a way to draw individual pixels directly? Maybe by directly accessing certain data structure elements? I need to be able to set the color, alpha, and intensity pixel by pixel with low system overhead. It's ok if I lose portability, etc--but would be nice if could be recompiled with #defines for specific systems. Thanks in advance for the help. Please post (and email appreciated--to rwarner@prv.com). Rich
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cube won't powerdown Date: 10 Oct 1997 17:25:39 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Distribution: usa,mars colony Message-ID: <61loej$1fl$2@news.seicom.net> References: <34356b6d.0@news.carleton.edu> <61e8di$1ki$1@nuke.csu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu In <61e8di$1ki$1@nuke.csu.net> Thomas Poff wrote: > I've noticed that it's only after I add a number of "services" that the NeXT has problems shutting down. Samba [Windows 95/NT networking] was one of those features tho' I'm not sure it was responsible. It could also be the web server or some other piece of software that refuses to top operating I suppose. > Best idea is to do a builddisk on another drive, boot it and start adding services, seeing which one of them fails. > Since mine has been doing this for six months now, I'm not worried enough to locate the problem. Most likely your samba server is the culprit. Maybe a better approach is to compile samba without the dreaded -posix flag so it will die gracefully at shutdown. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: PCI devices not seen by NS3.3 Date: 10 Oct 1997 19:18:12 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcd5b1$6ec71600$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> I have had NS3.3 running on my old desktop for a couple of years now. It co-exists with Win95. A month ago, I went online with a cable modem which connects to the machine via a PCI SMC card (EtherPower). The TCP/IP works fine in Win95, but I would like to get it up in NS3.3. Problem is, NS3.3 does not recognize the SMC card in the PCI slot. I also have a SCSI card (SymbiosLogic(NCR)810 based) in another PCI slot which is not recognized. The PCI ATI video works fine of course. All of these PCI devices are autosensed and work fine in Win95...why does NS3.3 only see the ATI PCI video card? Motherboard: "GIGABYTE GA-586AP"..90MHz Pentium BIOS: AwardModular 4.50G......ALI M1451B PCI-ISA v1.62 Network Card: SMC EtherPower SCSI card: NCR810 Patrick McGowan patmvcr@ibm.net
From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: termcap funny Date: 10 Oct 1997 03:51:56 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <61k8os$kp$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Boy, I've made good use of these groups recently, huh? :-) Here's the next one: My termcap on my slab (NS 3.3) seems to be funny. Funny echo things happen (like it will not echo for a line or will not stop echoing when it should [i.e. passwd prompts]) and often doesn't redraw corrctly in programs such as ytalk. This is not on the console, but coming in from xterms (obviously TERM type xterm) and terminal programs emulating vt100 and vt220. Does anyone have a hacked /etc/termcap thiat fixes this or another solution? Thanks in advance! sean
From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a high-speed way to draw pixels in NS3.3 (or OS4.2)? For graphics rendering... Date: 10 Oct 1997 09:22:36 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <61ks4s$n4b$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <343D3BB9.3E05@prv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rich Warner <rwarner@prv.com> wrote: > Hi - > > I've done rendering in the past using Display Postscript and > drawing lines of length 1. It is too slow for rendering apps. Does > anyone know a way to draw individual pixels directly? Maybe by directly > accessing certain data structure elements? I need to be able to set the > color, alpha, and intensity pixel by pixel with low system overhead. > It's ok if I lose portability, etc--but would be nice if could be > recompiled with #defines for specific systems. Thanks in advance for > the help. Please post (and email appreciated--to rwarner@prv.com). > > Rich Create an NSBitmapImageRep object with parameters that suit your application and add it as a representation to an NSImage object. Now set your pixels in the bitmap data which you can access with [NSBitmapImageRep bitmapData] and composite the image somewhere onto your screen, with [NSImage compositeToPoint:operation:]. This is portable and fairly fast. good luck erik -- Erik Dörnenburg - http://www.object-factory.com/~erik This message transmitted by 100% recyclable electrons
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From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 05:03:07 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <34418875.13594447@news.wco.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <61amno$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <61i2dh$ta0@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> On 9 Oct 1997 07:51:13 GMT, sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: >The simple answer is: you need the resource-fork that is well hidden (yeah) >on the Mac-ZIP-disk. A simple > >cd /mac-disk >open future.mov.#rsrc# Yup. When NEXTIME opens the movie file, it quicly discovers that it doesn't contain the 'MooV' atom that contains all the information needed to find the video and sound samples, so it then looks for 'filename.#rsrc#' to try and get the resource fork. Of course (damnit!) renaming or copying the file didn't get the resource fork. There is a connamd line program, 'showmacresources', and some notes on it's use buried in the NEXTIME release notes. You can configure your system (instructions in the release notes) to always show the Mac resource fork in the File Viewer, so you won't miss out on copying those resources. Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk-mailers!)
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: PCI devices not seen by NS3.3 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 12 Oct 1997 20:24:55 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <61rbmn$rdh$3@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <01bcd5b1$6ec71600$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> wrote: >I have had NS3.3 running on my old desktop for a couple of years now. It >co-exists with Win95. A month ago, I went online with a cable modem which >connects to the machine via a PCI SMC card (EtherPower). The TCP/IP works >fine in Win95, but I would like to get it up in NS3.3. Problem is, NS3.3 >does not recognize the SMC card in the PCI slot. I also have a SCSI card >(SymbiosLogic(NCR)810 based) in another PCI slot which is not recognized. >The PCI ATI video works fine of course. All of these PCI devices are >autosensed and work fine in Win95...why does NS3.3 only see the ATI PCI >video card? > >Motherboard: "GIGABYTE GA-586AP"..90MHz Pentium >BIOS: AwardModular 4.50G......ALI M1451B PCI-ISA v1.62 >Network Card: SMC EtherPower >SCSI card: NCR810 > >Patrick McGowan >patmvcr@ibm.net Please, don't crosspost to several next groups (Followup-To c.s.n.h). Did you install any drivers for your PCI cards? At least the NCR810 should work with NS 3.3 with a driver supplied in NeXTAnswers. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
From: ch480124@ms5.hinet.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.1 on VPC 1.01 Date: 3 Oct 1997 12:09:40 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <612na4$3u6@netnews.hinet.net> NNTP-Posting-User: ch480124 I just installed Virtual PC 1.01 on my Macintosh (UMAX Apus3000). It runs Windows 95 well. Now, I want to install OpenStep 4.1 onto VPC 1.01. But it fails to locate CD-ROM drive in the process. Anybody knows which device/controller card to choose for CD-ROM in order to install it? Thanks for any tips. Chester Lin ch480124@ms5.hinet.net
From: Mike Doyle<a3telecom@answerme.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Question Date: 13 Oct 1997 18:10:16 GMT Organization: Telecom Message-ID: <61to68$ae5344@beta.airnet.net> What is this NewsGroup for? http://www.freeyellow.com/members/a1telecom
From: cwilkins@boink.clark.net (Charlie Wilkinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <61to68$ae5344@beta.airnet.net> Control: cancel <61to68$ae5344@beta.airnet.net> Date: 13 Oct 1997 15:44:09 -0400 Organization: Spam-me-not! Sender: Mike Doyle<a3telecom@answerme.com> Message-ID: <cancel.61to68$ae5344@beta.airnet.net> Original subject line: Question This post, and all other posts originating from this abuser are being, and will continue to be canceled automatically until their abuse of regional newsgroups ceases. (Less drastic measures have already failed.) The source of the cancels is The WWUDP Script, the operation of which is coordinated with a world-wide group of regional newsgroup administrators. Direct flames, praise, or inquiries to: udp@boink.clark.net
From: "Britt Jensen" <dbjensen@nospam.usgypsum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Very Newbie Question: Setting Up A DNS Point On Cube Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 19:32:57 -0500 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Midwestern Internet Services Message-ID: <61ulae$r1e$1@news.megsinet.net> As above, I have a Cube running 3.2, and need to know how to setup a point to my ISP's DNS server (not configuring&running BIND). Also how do I configure& run Openweb? Thanks, Britt dbjensen@nospam.usgypsum.com (remove nospam)
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From: "Blaine Staples" <bstaples@rttinc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: re Win 95 printer driver for black lazer printer Date: 9 Oct 1997 05:27:29 GMT Organization: The Internet Centre Message-ID: <61hq01$9o7@nr1.calgary.istar.net> I am wondering if anyone knows what the best printer driver is to use for a Win 95 machine hooked to a Next with samba. I am currently using the apple lazerwriter ntx driver but it has its problems especially when I use pagemaker. If there is a better driver or a true NeXT driver please let me know thanks Blaine
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From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 9 Oct 1997 07:51:13 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <61i2dh$ta0@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <61amno$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: >sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: >>Three things: >> >>1) future.mov plays with NEXTIME 1.0 here on our Intel NS3.3 machine > >hmmmm ?:-/. it seems the movie only plays directly from a mac-ZIP-disk. If >you copy the movie onto your harddisk it does not play any more... > The simple answer is: you need the resource-fork that is well hidden (yeah) on the Mac-ZIP-disk. A simple cd /mac-disk open future.mov.#rsrc# opens the resource-fork in Edit and you can Save it to the same (NeXT-)directory, where future.mov is. I built a package of both files which can now be played with NEXTIME whitout an Apple-disk ... greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MIDI HW/SW search Date: 9 Oct 1997 05:24:10 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <61hppq$cmn$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ptf-0810971656080001@1cust85.tnt14.chi5.da.uu.net> You (Pat Finnigan <ptf@earthlink.com>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.misc, on Wed, 08 Oct 1997 16:56:08 -0600: > NeXTers: > I'm looking for sources for sequencing software for the NeXT platform. > I cannot find ANYTHING out there. Are there any commercially available > packages? > And are there any MIDI interfaces for the NeXT serial (mini din 8) ports? > Any/all help would be gratefully appreciated. > 8v) patf > newbie NeXTer Please visit following web sites: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~mrozek/nextmusic/ProgramList.html http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/SynthBuilder/SynthBuilder.html http://ccrma-www.stanford.edu/CCRMA/Software/MusicKit/MusicKit.html ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT/ younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) ppai@bbs.para.co.kr(Large size NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai http://bbs.para.co.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (The Web site contains 4,000 articles about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody)
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Running the FTP-shell-Client while already logged out? Date: 14 Oct 1997 16:10:52 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6205ic$b2p$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61ra8c$sb6@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: uzs198@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de In <61ra8c$sb6@news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> Nik Wiesel wrote: > how can one start under NS 3.3 a shell FTP client that executes certain > commands from a given list while the user is already logged out. Assuming your ISP will allow it, I used to do this: #!/bin/sh /usr/local/bin/ncftp ftp://host.domain.ext/path/to/file1 /usr/local/bin/ncftp ftp://host.domain.ext/path/to/file2 /usr/local/bin/ncftp ftp://host.domain.ext/path/to/file3 exit 0 save the file as ``ftplogout'' and do: nohup ftplogout Actually, I would do it in zsh, so I'd do it like this: ftplogout &| and it would run in the background and I could logout. Note: many an ISP do not like this idea. Mine didn't care fortunately. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Very Newbie Question: Setting Up A DNS Point On Cube Date: 14 Oct 1997 16:18:12 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <620604$b2p$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <61ulae$r1e$1@news.megsinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <61ulae$r1e$1@news.megsinet.net> "Britt Jensen" wrote: > As above, I have a Cube running 3.2, and need to know how to setup a point > to my ISP's DNS server (not configuring&running BIND). setup /etc/resolv.conf to look like this: domain megsinet.net nameserver 208.150.60.2 nameserver 208.133.80.2 > Also how do I configure& run Openweb? get the FoundationUserPatch from here: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/patches/FoundationUserPatch.tar.gz and then get OmniWeb (not OpenWeb ;-) from either here: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.7/OmniWeb.2.7b3.N.tar.gz (which is the latest demo) or here ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/OmniWeb/OmniWeb.2.5/OmniWeb.2.5.N.tar.gz (latest stable) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Very Newbie Question: Setting Up A DNS Point On Cube Date: 14 Oct 1997 17:09:03 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <6208vf$ggn$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <61ulae$r1e$1@news.megsinet.net> "Britt Jensen" <dbjensen@nospam.usgypsum.com> wrote: > As above, I have a Cube running 3.2, and need to know how to setup a point > to my ISP's DNS server (not configuring&running BIND). You create a file called /etc/resolv.conf, in which you can list a series of nameservers. For example: domain your.do.main nameserver 164.109.1.3 {this is ns.digex.net} nameserver 127.0.0.1 {if you ran a local NS} You could also specify this info via NetInfo in /locations/resolver, but the flat-file approach has advantages. > Also how do I configure & run Openweb? "OmniWeb"? Double-click on the package to install; Info->Preferences lets you set up your preferences.... > Thanks, Pas de rein. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: crb@glue.umd.edu (Christopher R. Bowman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Can you help me get a driver disk for NS3.3? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 18:32:47 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Message-ID: <crb-1310971832480001@10.0.0.4> I have a PPro with a tekram 390F ultra wide scsi controller (Symbios 53c875 based) and a Matrox Millenium video card, unfortuneately I can't install NeXTSTEP 3.3 on my system since I can't create a driver disk for the floppy installation (I have tried to create one using my NeXTStation but no dice.) Is there a kind soul out there that can mail me such a floppy or direction as to how to create one from my NeXTStation (I don't have access to a working x86 NeXT machine)? I would be eternally greatful. ----- Christopher R. Bowman crb@eng.umd.edu <A HREF="http://www.glue.umd.edu/~crb">My home page</A>
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From: Vassilis AG Aivazis <aivazis@scf.usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Jaz and 4.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 05:38:01 -0700 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Message-ID: <3444B929.B1639516@scf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can some one help me how to build a Jaz Boot Disk NeXTanswers document does not work Thanks email: aivazis@scf.usc.edu
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From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Can you help me get a driver disk for NS3.3? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 15 Oct 1997 08:02:28 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Message-ID: <621tak$h1c1@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <crb-1310971832480001@10.0.0.4> Christopher R. Bowman (crb@glue.umd.edu) wrote: : I have a PPro with a tekram 390F ultra wide scsi controller (Symbios : [...] : floppy or direction as to how to create one from my NeXTStation (I don't : have access to a working x86 NeXT machine)? I would be eternally : greatful. That's an easy one - I hope :-)! Get the necessary (Intel) bootimage-files from NeXTanswers and put them on the floppies via the 'dd'-command (as root) (something like "isolate files", lets assume one file 'disk.1' in /tmp, then do a 'dd if=/tmp/disk.1 of=/dev/rfd0b'. There are things/ options to make things faster, read the MANpage, but basically that's it. Eject disk, if neccessary by 'disk -e /dev/rfd0b' or maybe without the 'r' fd0b, don't remember right now). The driver disks are all NS/OS-format (i.e. BSD 4.3), so that you can insert them in the driver an then look them through. If you drivers are not there (Symbios-Logic SCSI, Millenium), get them, too and just insert them in the ".../Drivers/i386"-directory. If there isn't enough space, either remove (really(!)) unneccessary ones before or make another floppy (by NEXTSTEP-formatting it) and put the pathnames on them as they are on the (normal) drivers disk and add 'your' drivers at the appropriate place (.config files/directories into the "i368"-directory). Switch disks when you are asked for 'additional' disks during setup/installation via floppy. Done (hopefully). Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
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From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: mutli-boot Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 17:37:38 GMT Message-ID: <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a FAQ describing how to multi boot OpenStep 4.2 with NT and 95? Paul
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 2 Oct 1997 18:59:12 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <610qu0$h7p$1@news.digifix.com> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> In-Reply-To: <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> On 10/02/97, Holger Hoffstaette wrote: >Beth Gladen wrote: >> holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) wrote: >> >> > (.sea = StuffIt) >> >> Actually, the usual Mac convention is: >> .sea = self-extracting archive >> .sit = Stuffit >> A .sea file has uncompressing code built into the file (you double-click >> it to expand it), while a .sit file requires an uncompressing program >> (stuffit expander being a common freeware solution). I don't know whether >> either can be uncompressed on NeXT, but you may have better luck if you >> know which you are dealing with. > >Thanks, but doesn't that make matters only worse? I mean, a Quicktime >movie is *by definition* platform independent, and yet they still >manage to put it into an archive that will only unarchive itself >on a Mac? How stupid is that? Not only that, but HQX makes the files substantially bigger, since its the uuencode equiv. in the Mac world. MacBinary would be a much better option... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ftp://enterprise.apple.com/pub/WebFiles/future.mov.sea.hqx Date: 7 Oct 1997 17:41:48 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EHnAvx.Fps@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <60s2k0$lf5$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <60tvjl$qfh$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <gladen-0210970843190001@drdimm.niehs.nih.gov> <6106tv$8nr$1@leonie.object-factory.com> <610ucl$231$1@darla.visi.com> <61akoc$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <61amno$u9u@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: > hmmmm ?:-/. it seems the movie only plays directly from a mac-ZIP-disk. If > you copy the movie onto your harddisk it does not play any more... > > <<<snip>>> > > If somebody knows something about this strange behavior of NEXTIME (It plays > a movie on a NeXTmachine only if it was copied from a Mac to a mac-ZIP-disk. > After renaming the file or copying or any manipulation NEXTIME gives you a > Parse-error.) I would like to hear of some solution ... Sounds like resource-fork trouble. NEXTIME probably needs information from it, and seems to barf in an obfuscated way if it can't find it. It's present on the mac disk, but is apparently not copied/renamed automatically when you copy/rename the corresponding file. There should be a <file>.rsrc or <file>.#rsrc# or something like that on the mac disk accompanyig the <file> data fork, as seen from NEXTSTEP. (I forget which, exactly -- AFAIR it's only visible in "Unix Expert" mode.) If you copy/rename that alongside the original file it should keep working (I hope:-) > :-(( (even more depressed) Right. Don't you love it? :-/ -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: eddy@west.net (Elliott W. Eddy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mutli-boot Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:00:59 -0700 Organization: Elliott W. Eddy Message-ID: <eddy-0710971100590001@term4-23.sb.west.net> References: <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk> In article <335a307b.5027072@news.demon.co.uk>, paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) wrote: > Is there a FAQ describing how to multi boot OpenStep 4.2 with NT and > 95? > > Paul try this http://www.devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude/multiple_partition.html
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXHost problem Date: 15 Oct 1997 15:44:06 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <622oc6$bj5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> At home, I have an Intel machine running GateKeeper on a 38.4 connection to a local ISP. At school I have a Turbo NeXtstation on ethernet. Both run NS3.3. When trying to -NXHost an app, the connection to the WindowServer always fails. I follow the directions in DigitalLibrarian (SetUpNet.rtfd: Executing an Application on a Remote Computer), including setting my WindowServer at home to public. What am I missing? Thanks in advance, Babak please correct Reply-To-address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: www.macosrumors.com gone? Date: 15 Oct 1997 18:43:21 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <6232s9$k8b$1@news2.digex.net> Is macosrumors.com down? I haven't been able to get through for a few days...(I figured this would fall under .misc, because they do cary NeXT rumors, sorta...) -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: printing over smb Date: 15 Oct 1997 20:53:10 GMT Organization: NCCOSC RDT&E Division, San Diego, CA 92147 Message-ID: <623afm$ium@poisson.nosc.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way to use a windows hosted printer directly from the print menu? I can print a file via smbclient from a terminal shell, but I'd like to integrate it with the netinfo manager like tcp/ip printers. Thanks, Ron Hidinger hidinger@spawar.navy.mil
From: paul@softland.demon.co.uk (Paul Taylor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can't access modem Date: Wed, 15 Oct 1997 21:39:31 GMT Message-ID: <3445371a.56338@news.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an internal modem I'm trying to access from OpenStep 4.2. I compiled the Minicom comms program and point it to the modem but it says it can't open the device. I can cat AT commands at /dev/cub and the modem responds (like cat ATDT<number> >/dev/cub causes the modem to dial.) Any ideas why minicom can't open the modem? Paul
Subject: Re: www.macosrumors.com gone? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc References: <6232s9$k8b$1@news2.digex.net> <connorbd-ya023480001510971844000001@delphi.bc.edu> In-Reply-To: <connorbd-ya023480001510971844000001@delphi.bc.edu> From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Message-ID: <34458cb9.0@news.cadvision.com> Date: 16 Oct 97 03:40:41 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corporation (http://www.cadvision.com/) On 10/15/97, Coach composed a News article about Re: www.macosrumors.com gone?: >In article <6232s9$k8b$1@news2.digex.net>, mikelea@nospam.digex.net >(Hippykill) wrote: > >> Is macosrumors.com down? I haven't been able to get through for a >> few days...(I figured this would fall under .misc, because they do >> cary NeXT rumors, sorta...) > >Temporarily. ISP trouble, I believe. They should be back by the end of the week. > >/Coach > ah! a macosrumour-rumour! (great site that!) -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave"
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 16 Oct 1997 00:21:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <624f8s$qjn@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <622oc6$bj5@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <623g91$cap$1@news.tamu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jth9904@tamu.edu In <623g91$cap$1@news.tamu.edu> Jeromy Hollenshead wrote: > > I would love to do this, but I thought I couldn't because of the dynamic ip > addressing or whatever. I have a couple of nextstations at school on ethernet, > and a nextstation at home via ppp. Typcially while NXhosting at school I when > on school1 I open a shell and telnet to school2. Then I type Cool.app -NXHost > school1 and a few seconds later the program will show up on school1. But if > I'm at home, I open a shell and telnet to school2. Then Type Cool.app -NXHost > ?????. I don't know what to type. The ip address of the machine I'm on > changes. did you try "ifconfig ppp0"? here it is on my machine: rworne#/Users/rworne: ifconfig ppp0 ppp0: flags=51<UP,POINTOPOINT,RUNNING> inet 198.68.36.156 --> 198.68.36.6 netmask ffffff00 My machine is on the left, and my isp on the right. So if I was doing what you mentioned above, woudn't: Cool.app -NXHost 198.68.36.156 Just work? -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: "D. Britt Jensen" <dbjensen@usgypsum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Very Newbie Question: How Do I setup DNS Point on Cube? Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 17:47:52 -0500 Organization: USG Corporation Message-ID: <3442A518.173F381B@usgypsum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As above-help! Am running 3.2, not familiar with Mach.......(yet;-)). Thanks, Britt dbjensen@usgypsum.com
From: Sigthor Hrafnsson <siffi@treknet.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.x localization Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 05:30:27 +0100 Organization: Islandia ISP Message-ID: <3442F563.2F88@treknet.is> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I want to localize openstep 4.x to my country language (icelandic). I have been trying to find some documentation regarding this, but can't seem to find any. Can somone point me out a starting point. siffi@treknet.is
From: Sigthor Hrafnsson <siffi@treknet.is> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multi OS Date: Tue, 14 Oct 1997 10:28:56 +0100 Organization: Islandia ISP Message-ID: <34433B58.323F@treknet.is> References: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Taylor wrote: > > I want to install OpenStep 4.2, NT4 Server, Linux and Win95 on the > same drive. Any tips on the best way to do this? > > Paul Hi Install OpenStep last, so that you won't lose the OpenStep boot promt. Windows 95 has the nasty habit of overwriting the boot promt. If you do lose the OpenStep promt, you can use fdisk in win to set your OpenStep partition active, when you restart, OpenStep will boot. In order to get the promt back, open terminal and: If you have IDE disk, then give this command: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rhd0a If you have SCSII disk, then give this command: disk -B0 /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 /dev/rsd0a Then you have the boot promt back. Note: In eather case, rhd0a or rsd0a, i'm refering to the primary master disk. If OpenStep is not on the primary master disk, you will have to change rhd0a or rsd0a in the command, possible to rhd1a or rsd1a. Have fun siffi@treknet.is
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 16 Oct 1997 15:05:33 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes > I believe you need to re-initialize the nmserver (network message server) after > bringing up the PPP link so that it knows about that PPP interface. > > Send it a USR2 signal, via something like this /bin/sh fragment > (culled from /etc/rc.net): > > # > # Finally, let nmserver know the fruits of our network configuration endeavor. > # > pid=`ps cax | egrep nmserver | awk '{print $1;}'` > if [ -n "$pid" ]; then > echo "Reinitializing nmserver's network portion" > docmd kill -USR2 $pid > fi Hmm, no luck. Still get DPS client library error: Could not form connection In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever explained how it could be done. Why should this be? I have a permanent IP address for my PPP connection. So far all the other network services I have tried do work. Bummer. Babak please correct Reply-To address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 16 Oct 1997 16:27:58 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <625fae$m2k$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Ashrafi wrote: >Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes >> I believe you need to re-initialize the nmserver (network message >server) after >> bringing up the PPP link so that it knows about that PPP interface. >> >> Send it a USR2 signal, via something like this /bin/sh fragment >> (culled from /etc/rc.net): >> >> # >> # Finally, let nmserver know the fruits of our network configuration >endeavor. >> # >> pid=`ps cax | egrep nmserver | awk '{print $1;}'` >> if [ -n "$pid" ]; then >> echo "Reinitializing nmserver's network portion" >> docmd kill -USR2 $pid >> fi > >Hmm, no luck. Still get >DPS client library error: Could not form connection > >In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never >been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever >explained how it could be done. > >Why should this be? I have a permanent IP address for my PPP connection. >So far all the other network services I have tried do work. Bummer. > >Babak >please correct Reply-To address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu It *does* work. I have a color NeXTstation (PPP server) at work running NS3.3 and an intel box (client) at home running NS3.3 with a permenant IP address. Using GateKeeper.app, PPP2.2, and the recipe above, NXHosting just works. I was extremely careful when setting up the original computer and PPP connection to follow every document and detail I could get my hands on. Since, it worked from the get-go I really can't suggest a possible fix to your problems. --Ryan
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:23:30 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <34463F82.2D07E32C@ti.com> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hmm, no luck. Still get > DPS client library error: Could not form connection > > In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never > been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever > explained how it could be done. Well... I can definitely put that rumor to rest. It is false. NXHost does work over _some_ PPP connections. I have used it over connections between my Cube and Intel. Matter of fact, I used to NXHost Pacman as part of the stress tests for PPP before I released a new version. I also know others who have successfully used it. Unfortunately, I have not been able to determine why it fails for others. Non-reproducable problems (for me) make it very difficult to track down. BTW, I was using dynamically assigned IP addresses. I'm sorry that you can't get it to work. If you do figure out a way to make it work, please let me know so that an FAQ can be added. - Steve
From: <ted.allen.nospam@theory1.physics.wisc.edu> Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 16 Oct 1997 16:35:16 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <625fo4$10lc$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Ashrafi wrote: > > In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never > been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever > explained how it could be done. > > Why should this be? I have a permanent IP address for my PPP connection. > So far all the other network services I have tried do work. Bummer. > > Babak > please correct Reply-To address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu I have done NXHosting via PPP. It bothers me now that it doesn't work anymore and I'm not sure what changed. Certainly our University is always changing *something*! Just what changed to ruin NXHosting, I'm not sure. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison Ted.Allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: Grant Schenk <mrgoat@ioc.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP Operating System Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 09:08:55 -0700 Message-ID: <343FA497.71@ioc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Where can I purchase (or download if it is no longer for sale) the NeXTSTEP Operating System? I have tried NeXT's site, but there is no information about buying the system. Thanks to all who can help! Grant Schenk
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 16 Oct 1997 18:23:36 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <625m38$coa$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Ashrafi writes: > In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never > been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever > explained how it could be done. Not true. It works quite happily - I used to do this as a way of testing the robustness of the kernel when playing with PPP. I have no idea why your setup doesn't work though... -bat.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10325876024022@digifix.com> Date: 12 Oct 1997 03:49:09 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <4564876628829@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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From: nospam_to.Stefaan.Huysentruyt@ping.be (Stefaan Huysentruyt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: highest serial port speed on Intel NS 3.3 Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 18:50:14 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Message-ID: <343fc914.41899316@news.ping.be> Hello, I am trying to get Mail.app talking to the rest of the world, but still no succes. Be patient. I read some interesting stuff here. But now... I have a USR Sportster 33.6 External modem, connected to 16550 UART modem port 2, but tip or pppd does not work higher than 19.2K bps speed. I expect at least 57.6K bps What can one do? Thanx you marvelous NeXT crowd. (a crowd you are) Stefaan. P.S. Any NS/OS enthousiasts in Belgium reading this? I'm heeeeerrre! *--- Stefaan Huysentruyt ---* *--- email:remove nospam_to from reply adress ---* *--- I am not young enough to know everything ---*
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 19 Oct 1997 01:34:07 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <62bo2f$mu0$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <625fo4$10lc$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> <ted.allen.nospam@theory1.physics.wisc.edu> wrote: > >I have done NXHosting via PPP. It bothers me now that >it doesn't work anymore and I'm not sure what changed. >Certainly our University is always changing *something*! >Just what changed to ruin NXHosting, I'm not sure. Your campus gateway/firewall is blocking the NXHost ports, same thing that happens with my other school. Ask the netgods of the university network to open those ports (somebody might help here for the exact port numbers), and hopefully they will cooperate. No Luck ? then if you know how to setup IP Tunneling, then use tunneling to ride the packets on top of the regular IP packets, this trick works for me. (You need tunnel servers on both sides, and then modify the routing table to pass the packets via the tunnel server on the near end). TTFN, Paulus
From: zizi zhao <ziziz@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ? NS face for PERL scripts ? Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 11:15:34 -0400 Organization: personal Message-ID: <62agiu$75n@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wrote a script in PERL. Now some other people need to use this script, but they normally don't use terminals at all, or even type. I thought if I can put on a simple interface on my script to make it more friendly to those people. The inputs to this script are a path name and two integers only. If I can have a window/panel with a text-field for the path name and two sliders for the integers, plus a button "Go", that would be enough. Plus its better to make drag&drop a folder from work space to the path name text-field on my window. I don't want to write this app again in C/obejC since my script takes the integers and runs through the file system to find anything related to the path name and modify it. It is a easy job in PERL, but not fairly in C. I am not very sure if I can embed a PERL script in NS programming or not. Any opinion and suggestion is welcome. Thanks in advance, ZiZi
From: ChangJun Kim <nextkane@nuri.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 on TP560..? Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 01:44:11 +0900 Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <343FACDB.10B4@nuri.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all! I want to build NeXTSTEP 3.3 on ThinkPad 560 with Adaptec 1460 slim scsi card and Plextor 8x scsi cdrom ... I have 3.3 PCMCIA booting disk and Additional Driver disk from NeXTAnswer. But I can't recognize slim scsi card and cdrom. Is there who solve that problem ? help me, please....... -.-; Thanks. nextkane@nuri.net
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ? NS face for PERL scripts ? Date: 18 Oct 1997 22:41:00 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <62bdts$sje$1@news.platinum.com> References: <62agiu$75n@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Cc: ziziz@worldnet.att.net In <62agiu$75n@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> it appeared that zizi zhao wrote: > I wrote a script in PERL. Now some other people need to use > this script, but they normally don't use terminals at all, or > even type. I thought if I can put on a simple interface on > my script to make it more friendly to those people. > > The inputs to this script are a path name and two integers only. > If I can have a window/panel with a text-field for the path name > and two sliders for the integers, plus a button "Go", that would > be enough. Plus its better to make drag&drop a folder from work > space to the path name text-field on my window. > > I don't want to write this app again in C/obejC since my script > takes the integers and runs through the file system to find > anything related to the path name and modify it. It is a easy > job in PERL, but not fairly in C. > > I am not very sure if I can embed a PERL script in NS programming > or not. Any opinion and suggestion is welcome. I think the makers of TipTop have an interface to PERL, and python... If you want to roll your own, find a couple apps with source code like "Ping.app" from next-ftp.peak.org Little apps like this do something similar to what you describe -- instrument an existing CLI. You could probably find one and modify it to do what you're doing. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine | ____/| OpenStep MachOS | \ o.O| Objective-C l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com | =(_)= the Dock NeXTmail & MIME | U Elegance is Relevant.
From: van@crl.com (Van Bagnol) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Partitioning drive for NS, Windoze NT, DOS Date: 15 Oct 1997 17:47:57 GMT Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <622vkd$6co$1@nnrp1.crl.com> Help! I need to put Windows NT _alongside_ my NS/FIP machine! Anyone familiar with partitioning IDE and SCSI drives to triply-boot NeXTSTEP 3.2, Windows NT, and regular DOS/Win3.1? Of the various partition management utils out there, which ones work reliably with a NeXTSTEP partition? So far, my prospects are: FDISK.EXE (or more likely, /usr/etc/fdisk) System Commander (not sure if this really partitions) Quarterdeck Partition-It Partition Magic I'd like, preferably, the ability to elect to boot any of the systems, and for NS to see the DOS (FAT16) and NT (NTFS) filesystems. It is not necessary for DOS or NT to see the NS partitions, though obviously NT should see DOS. Keep in mind I'm running NS 3.2, not OPENSTEP for NT. Thanks in advance, Van -- Van Bagnol / van@crl.com / Teatro ng Tanan / Windsurfing / Parachuting Hawksbill Capital Management / (707) 575-7077 / (707) 575-8334 fax "Parang lumalakad ako sa loob ng panaginip" "An Error is not a Mistake...until you refuse to correct it."
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <4564876628829@digifix.com> Date: 19 Oct 1997 03:48:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <21870877233630@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. 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From: rauch@mit.edu (Erik M Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing 3.3 from ATAPI CD-ROM Date: 19 Oct 1997 05:04:12 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <62c4cd$ejl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Hello, I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 on a Pentium 200 system with EIDE/ATAPI controller that has one HD on the primary controller and a CD-ROM on the secondary. I load the drivers off the floppy (including the new EIDE driver that can handle the secondary CD-ROM), and it goes into the NeXTStep boot window, but won't read the CD because of "No Valid Disk Label". Is there something I'm doing wrong? Is there at least a way to get to a point where I have a prompt and I can format hard disks and copy files? Any help would be appreciated. Here is the last part of the boot window output: hc1: Device 0: ATAPI CD-ROM (FAST DRQ, REMOVABLE, CMD PKT LEN=12) [...] Registering: hc1 IDE Disk: disk 0 is ATAPI Registering: sc0 sd0: TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6002B 0527 Registering: sd0 at Target 0 LUN 0 at sc0 Registering: sd0a sd0: No Valid Disk Label sd0: Device Block Size: 2048 bytes sd0: Device Capacity: 308 MB registering: sg0 at sc0 [...] root on sd0 rootdev 600, howto2 sd0a: Read attempt with no valid label vfs mountroot: error=5 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root panic: NeXT Mach 3.3: Mon Oct 24 13:31:49 PDT 1994; root (rc builder): mk-171.9.obj~2/RC_i386/RELEASE_I386
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 19 Oct 1997 18:19:19 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <62div7$1nii$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <34463F82.2D07E32C@ti.com> "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> wrote: >Well... I can definitely put that rumor to rest. It is false. NXHost >does work over _some_ PPP connections.... > >BTW, I was using dynamically assigned IP addresses. Here I'm assuming you have a dialin client w/ dynamic IP and you want run an app on the server and NXHost its display to your client. If your client has a dynamic IP then what exactly did you specify (on the server) for the remote host? You can't put hostname because your client's name isn't going to appear in any DNS table if it has a dynamic IP address. I suppose you _could_ go in and add your clients new IP address every time you open a new connection for it, but that sounds very inconvenient. Yes, NXHosting _does_ work over PPP (I've done it too) but I can't see how this can be done with dynamic IP addresses because the server needs to know the IP address to send the display to, and your client's address changes every time you dial in! What's the trick? - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 19 Oct 1997 22:23:36 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <62e198$j$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <34463F82.2D07E32C@ti.com> <62div7$1nii$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In <62div7$1nii$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > If your client has a dynamic IP then what exactly did you specify (on the > server) for the remote host? You can't put hostname because your client's > name isn't going to appear in any DNS table if it has a dynamic IP address. That's actually not true. My last PPP ISP had all of their dynamic IPs tied to hostnames. For example, the hostname ppp01.host.com was tied to 205.111.222.333 (or whatever it was). If you got the IP 205.111.222.333 then you could use the ppp01.host.com address, and it would route to your computer. The sysadmin said they did this because a lot of sites were (smartly) denying access to IPs which were not registered DNS-wise. I don't see why any school or ISP could not do similarly. TjL ps -- I did not know that one could not use an IP address when using -NXHost... but then again I've never used it all that much. -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 19 Oct 1997 15:48:35 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <62da4j$36g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <62bo2f$mu0$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Paulus Adisoemarta writes > <ted.allen.nospam@theory1.physics.wisc.edu> wrote: > > > >I have done NXHosting via PPP. [snip] Clearly I have not yet seen all the messages in this thread (seen two other than mine). But to clarify, the claim that NXHost does not work over PPP was my mistake. I misunderstood the information someone emailed me and mis-paraphrased it in seeking clarification here. Apologies, and thanks to those who have posted corrections and clarifications -- including those I have yet to see. Good to know it can work. > Your campus gateway/firewall is blocking the NXHost ports, > same thing that happens with my other school. > > Ask the netgods of the university network to open those > ports (somebody might help here for the exact port numbers), > and hopefully they will cooperate. From past experience, not likely. Do I have to get both MIT and TIAC (my ISP) to change their policy or make an exception for me? Actually if I can argue this will be a continuing problem for Rhapsody, they may care. > > No Luck ? then > if you know how to setup IP Tunneling, then use tunneling > to ride the packets on top of the regular IP packets, > this trick works for me. > (You need tunnel servers on both sides, and then modify > the routing table to pass the packets via the tunnel > server on the near end). Hmm, over my head, errr--another learning opportunity. References? Can this be done on a Turbo NeXTstation and Intel box running NS3.3 or does this configuration require additional machines to act as tunnel servers? Did you need to also re-initialize the nmserver after establishing the PPP connection? How did you discover that this was the problem? How can I check? > > TTFN, > > Paulus Thanks,
From: paul@whimsy.umsl.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 20 Oct 1997 07:45:52 -0500 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Message-ID: <ec1sotw8uwv.fsf@whimsy.umsl.edu> References: <6237hq$niq$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <628esl$rdi$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com writes: |In <625aft$h3c@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Ashrafi wrote: |> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes |> > I believe you need to re-initialize the nmserver (network message |> server) after |> > bringing up the PPP link so that it knows about that PPP interface. |> > |> > Send it a USR2 signal, via something like this /bin/sh fragment |> > (culled from /etc/rc.net): |> > |> > # |> > # Finally, let nmserver know the fruits of our network configuration |> endeavor. |> > # |> > pid=`ps cax | egrep nmserver | awk '{print $1;}'` |> > if [ -n "$pid" ]; then |> > echo "Reinitializing nmserver's network portion" |> > docmd kill -USR2 $pid |> > fi |> |> Hmm, no luck. Still get |> DPS client library error: Could not form connection |> |> In fact, I got one private email claiming that NXHost over PPP has never |> been done, no one has ever claimed to have done it, no one has ever |> explained how it could be done. |> |> Why should this be? I have a permanent IP address for my PPP connection. |> So far all the other network services I have tried do work. Bummer. |> |> Babak |> please correct Reply-To address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu |> | |When I used PPP (2.2 version I think) I had absolutely no problem with |this. I going to assume that you have turned on the Public Window |Server(3.x?) or turned off the Private Window Server (4.x). Otherwise |you'll always get that DPS client library error: Could not form |connection ;) | |Presuming you've indeed done this on your client box then you should |have no problem provided you have your networking configured properly. |(i.e. ping/traceroute work to server box, and back from the server to |your client.) If you can't telnet directly to the server AND back to |your box using the IP your going to NXHost to, you'll have problems. |If you can do this simple test AND you have your DPS display public |then everything should just work (I have not found a situation yet |where if you could do a telnet loop DIRECTLY to and from the server |you want to NXHost from and the client box - that you could not |NXHost! I can do this simple test AND I have DPS set to public display, and I can't do NXHost'ing. Telling me I SHOULD be able to do it doesn't help much when I have direct evidence to the contrary. -- --paul
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 02:43:53 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2010970243540001@frazer.com> References: <62bo2f$mu0$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <62da4j$36g@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Paulus Adisoemarta wrote: > Your campus gateway/firewall is blocking the NXHost ports, > same thing that happens with my other school. This could be the case for MIT, where Babak's other machine is, but I have had the same problem with two NeXT machines running 3.3 via PPP to a single ISP. And it seems unlikely that that ISP is blocking ports, since all sorts of strange ports work on http and ftp thru them. It happens to be the same ISP (TIAC) as Babak uses. And I expect that this will excite "ahas" on the part of all following this thread. Perhaps there is something odd about NXHost packets that TIAC could detect and use to filter them out. If anyone knows of such an oddity kindly post the details. Pending such a post, I think this explanation is unlikely. (And, I might add, I doubt that TIAC has the confidence to try implementing such a filter.) As for my experience, both machines provided flawless TCP/IP service (telnet in/out, ftp in/out, smtp out, pop in, http in/out, over both a LAN and PPP), before and after the failed NXHost experiments. DNS (via TIAC) worked properly, Public Window Server was enabled on both machines, NetInfo was properly configured in a two level hierarchy and I followed the NXHost instructions in the book to the letter (as did Babak, I believe). So I agree with Steve Perkins - NXHost fails on some PPP setups and no one knows why. Hope Apple can fix the problem. If someone can suggest constructive tests to isolate the failure, please do so - hopefully with pointers to any needed tools.
From: "Bruce J. Dolby" <B.Dolby@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Memory problems Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:48:27 +0100 Organization: Alcatel SEL Message-ID: <344C887B.2C51@pfh.sel.alcatel.de> References: <344C15B7.498FF5D7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Breitzmann wrote: > > I just installed 128M of ram on my pentium system, and now I can't get > to the login prompt. Everything seems to load fine, the greyscale load > screen works. But when I come to the point where there should be a > login, the screen is black. Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, > or will OpenStep 4.0 not work with that much ram? Hi. Something like that happened to me after installing more ram, but it was a different operating system. This could help anyway: After installing your ram you should enter the bios of you computer and go to the screen the shows the amount of ram in your computer. Do not make any changes! Just exit the bios and save it! It worked for me. Bruce
From: Horst_Lehner@bb.maus.de (Horst Lehner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <199710200906.a49162@bb.maus.de> Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?MAUS B=83blingen (+49-7031-714550)?= Subject: V: Workstation Date: Mon, 20 Oct 97 09:06:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ich habe hier die folgende Workstation zuviel: HP 9000 Serie 735/125 Dieses System war vor dem Erscheinen der C-Serie vor knapp einem Jahr das Topmodell der HP-Workstations. Hardware: - 64-Bit-PA-RISC-Prozessor mit 125 MHz Takt und 512k Cache (separater High-Speed-Cache-Bus!) - 80MB RAM (kann aufgerüstet werden, es sind noch genug Slots frei) - 2 x 2 GB Fast-Wide-Differential-SCSI-Festplatte intern eingebaut - Sowohl SCSI-2- als auch Fast-Wide-Differential-SCSI Bus herausgeführt - Thin-Lan-Netzwerkanschluß (10 MBit/s, auf 10-Base-T umrüstbar) - 1 x Parallel- und 2 x RS232-Schnittstelle - Audio-Ein- und Ausgänge (Stereo) über 3.5mm-Klinke, getrennt für Line- und Mic- bzw. Phones-Level - Ein EISA-Slot - Auf Wunsch internes Diskettenlaufwerk - Auf Wunsch externes CDROM-Laufwerk - 24-Bit-Grafikkarte mit Z-Buffer für höchste Grafikperformance 1280 x 1024 Pixels bei 72 Hz Bildwiederholfrequenz - 20-Zoll Festfrequenzmonitor (gegen Aufpreis 21-Zoll-Multisync- Monitor mit Trinitron-Röhre möglich) - Hochwertiges, langes BNC-Videokabel - Tastatur und Dreitastenmaus mit Kabeln - Owner's Guide Betriebssystem: - HP-UX oder NextStep möglich - Auf Wunsch HP-UX (Version nach Wunsch) vorinstalliert Einzelteile: - 99-MHz-Prozessorkarte - Schnittstellenkarte - Einschub zum Einbau interner SCSI-2-Platten - SCSI-Diskettenlaufwerk mit Einbausatz Preis: alles komplett wie beschrieben VB DM 10000,-- nur an Selbstabholer (Raum Stuttgart)
From: Paul Breitzmann <breitzmann.2@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Memory problems Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:38:47 -0700 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <344C15B7.498FF5D7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed 128M of ram on my pentium system, and now I can't get to the login prompt. Everything seems to load fine, the greyscale load screen works. But when I come to the point where there should be a login, the screen is black. Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, or will OpenStep 4.0 not work with that much ram?
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 20 Oct 1997 14:19:39 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <62fp9r$7k1@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <jbf-2010970243540001@frazer.com> James Frazer writes > Paulus Adisoemarta wrote: > > Your campus gateway/firewall is blocking the NXHost ports, > > same thing that happens with my other school. > > This could be the case for MIT, where Babak's other machine is, [snip] Just got off the phone with MIT Network Helpdesk: MIT does _not_ block any ports except on their dial-up machines, which I am not using. > > As for my experience, both machines provided flawless TCP/IP service [snip] Ditto. Telnet, ftp, traceroute, ping work every direction I have tried. The school machine is the mailhost and pop server for the home machine, no problems. Babak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: multi OS Message-ID: <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> <34433B58.323F@treknet.is> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 23:30:06 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom13.netcom.com In article <34433B58.323F@treknet.is>, Sigthor Hrafnsson <siffi@treknet.is> wrote: >Paul Taylor wrote: >> >> I want to install OpenStep 4.2, NT4 Server, Linux and Win95 on the >> same drive. Any tips on the best way to do this? >> >> Paul >Hi > >Install OpenStep last, so that you won't lose the OpenStep boot promt. >Windows 95 has the nasty habit of overwriting the boot promt. I second that notion. Win95 also likes to overwrite the disk for itself, so one of the MS operating systems should be installed first. I personally recommend that you get "System Commander 3.0" or higher. This is a commercial product (sells for about $60 at most computer stores) which installs a special boot block and boot menu. It knows all about Win(95|NT), Linux, OpenStep, OS/2, and many others. It is also very useful for installing multiple OS configurations commonly needed for DOS games without the pain of boot disks. I use System Commander to multi-boot OpenStep, Win95, OS/2 Warp 4, and Linux. I'll probably add Rhapsody RDR to that mix. Special note: Linux and OS/2 are the only OSes which support booting from the second physical drive. Also, some OSes (maybe OpenStep) require their boot partition to start before cylinder 1024. Disclaimer: I just use System Commander. I do not have any affiliation with the manufacturer. Good Luck, Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost problem Date: 20 Oct 1997 16:46:37 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <62g1td$amb@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <jbf-2010970243540001@frazer.com> James Frazer writes > Paulus Adisoemarta wrote: > > Your campus gateway/firewall is blocking the NXHost ports, > > same thing that happens with my other school. [snip] > And it seems unlikely that that > ISP is blocking ports, since all sorts of strange ports work on > http and ftp thru them. [snip] OK, it is not a problem of my ISP or MIT blocking any ports. I posted earlier this morning that MIT is not blocking any ports. Just got a message from TIAC that they do not block any ports and they added explicitly that it is possibile to run a window server through their connection (thought they must be thinking X). Babak please correct Reply-To address in headers: ashrafi _at_ mit _dot_ edu
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Memory problems Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:26:03 +0100 Organization: Total Connectivity Providers - Internet access for the UK Message-ID: <344BCC6B.29B95756@forsee.tcp.co.uk> References: <344C15B7.498FF5D7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Another problem could be the Brightness in root's Perferences is set to zero (black), how do you fix this? Possibly: 1) set the keyboard to Next style and use the PageUp to increase the brightness, 2) find a driver or display mode that does not support Brightness, login as root and set the Brightness to max, then change the driver back, 3) login as root (blind), when you think Workspace manager is running, type "/NextApps/Terminal.app" (if Terminal is in NextApps), hit return to open Terminal.app OR login from a terminal. Now use dread, dwrite and dremove to set the Brightness, but I can't remember how to use them :-( Paul Breitzmann wrote: > > I just installed 128M of ram on my pentium system, and now I can't get > to the login prompt. Everything seems to load fine, the greyscale load > screen works. But when I come to the point where there should be a > login, the screen is black. Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, > or will OpenStep 4.0 not work with that much ram?
From: Robert Forsyth <bobbyf@forsee.tcp.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Memory problems Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:12:07 +0100 Organization: Total Connectivity Providers - Internet access for the UK Message-ID: <344BC927.2744C32F@forsee.tcp.co.uk> References: <344C15B7.498FF5D7@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is your video card using a frame buffer mode where the frame buffer is mapped to less than 128M (<0x8000000) and so conflicting with your main RAM... If you can set the video card's frame buffer to an address above 128M (0x8000000) in Configure.app, you may be able to do this by booting with Config=Default (in VGA mode), otherwise you will have to temporary remove some of the RAM. Paul Breitzmann wrote: > > I just installed 128M of ram on my pentium system, and now I can't get > to the login prompt. Everything seems to load fine, the greyscale load > screen works. But when I come to the point where there should be a > login, the screen is black. Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, > or will OpenStep 4.0 not work with that much ram?
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From: max@maxpages.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FREE Web Site Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:48:24 GMT Organization: Email PLATINUM Message-ID: <62lp34$709$1665@ha2.rdc1.md.home.com> Does anyone want a FREE commercial Web Site? Go to http://maxpages.com Personal Web Sites are OK too.
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Downloading NeXT apps Date: 23 Oct 1997 04:44:44 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <62mkns$5kr@mochi.lava.net> References: <62m8kq$5eh@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) wrote: > i just set up my (intel) system, with a triple boot for > dos, NS, and Red Hat. My question is this: can I download > files via ftp or whatever onto a _dos_ formatted disk, > mount that disk under NS, and copy it over without > corrupting it? or are the file systems too different? NS understands DOS floppies fine, so no corruption will occur because of the different file systems. However, DOS' brain-damaged 8.3 filenames will hose most examples because their file names are considerably more expressive than that. So after copying your examples from the DOS floppy to a NS-formatted drive, you'll need to rename all of the files whose names were corrupted. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Date: 22 Oct 1997 15:11:16 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <62l52k$8vr$1@news.platinum.com> References: <344DBD8B.9704C846@esec.com> <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Cc: malcolm@plsys.co.uk In <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> it appeared that mmalcolm crawford wrote: > On 10/22/97, Daniel Schneiter wrote: > > > does anybody know how to find out the version number of the PostScript > > Interpreter in OPENSTEP 4.1 (Mach for Motorola)? From the Workspace- > > Manageryou can get the version number of DisplayPostscript, > > but that's obviously not the same. > > > > The PostScript command "version" returns the current number, so you have to > find a way of displaying this. Here's a particularly baroque way of doing > it... Thanks to Mike Paquette for all but one word of this (I substituted > "version" four lines from the end). > > In a Terminal window, run pft (this makes a connection to the Window > Server), then copy and paste the following, and look in the lower left > corner... lower left of the desktop, that is. It writes in black, so if you have a black desktop you'll need to reset it to some other color for a bit to see this. : ) (bit me) /gary -- Gary W. Longsine | ____/| OpenStep MachOS | \ o.O| Objective-C l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com | =(_)= the Dock NeXTmail & MIME | U Elegance is Relevant.
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 23 Oct 1997 00:35:41 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <344DBD8B.9704C846@esec.com> <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <62l52k$8vr$1@news.platinum.com> Gary W. Longsine (gary-nospam-@screaming.org) wrote: >In <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> it appeared that mmalcolm crawford >wrote: >> >> In a Terminal window, run pft (this makes a connection to the Window >> Server), then copy and paste the following, and look in the lower left >> corner... > >lower left of the desktop, that is. It writes in black, so if you have a >black >desktop you'll need to reset it to some other color for a bit to see this. > > : ) Uh, stone me if this was a joke I didn't notice. But = will print to stdout, not to the "desktop". That is, on my machine: carmi> pft Connection to PostScript established. version = 2011.102 _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Brand new Powergloves for sale. Date: 21 Oct 1997 23:21:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <62jdd5$mo6$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <344CDB8A.6B2F42E1@inav.net> "Steven J. Hill" <sjhill71@inav.net> wrote: >I just recently bought out a whole bunch of Powergloves still in >their boxes. I have 50 of them. I'm asking $25 which includes shipping... If you don't mind used, Funco (http://www.funcoland.com) sells used PowerGloves mail order for $8 plus s&h. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multi OS Date: 22 Oct 1997 18:00:00 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <62lev0$agn$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> <34433B58.323F@treknet.is> <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com> <6280f4$hq@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de In <6280f4$hq@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnhöfer wrote: > > Solaris x86 also may be booted off a second HD. (But then, who uses Solaris > x86?) The brand new soon to be launched International Space Station will have the crew carrying IBM thinkpads w/386s using Solaris. Unlike previous vehicles with switches, controls and dials over every surface, most commands from the crew to the Station will be done using laptop computers plugged into ports using 1553(?). ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Downloading NeXT apps Date: 23 Oct 1997 01:18:18 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <62m8kq$5eh@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> okay, i just set up my (intel) system, with a triple boot for dos, NS, and Red Hat. My question is this: can I download files via ftp or whatever onto a _dos_ formatted disk, mount that disk under NS, and copy it over without corrupting it? or are the file systems too different? i'm eager to get some new apps to mess around with... LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
From: Albino Santos <asantos@individual.EUnet.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Installing 3.3 from ATAPI CD-ROM Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:31:06 +0100 Organization: VANTeC Message-ID: <344E7EAA.4CECCC7A@individual.EUnet.pt> References: <62c4cd$ejl@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Erik M Rauch <rauch@mit.edu> Erik M Rauch wrote: > > Hello, > I'm trying to install NeXTStep 3.3 on a Pentium 200 system with > EIDE/ATAPI controller that has one HD on the primary controller and a > CD-ROM on the secondary. I load the drivers off the floppy (including > the new EIDE driver that can handle the secondary CD-ROM), and it > goes into the NeXTStep boot window, but won't read the CD because of > "No Valid Disk Label". > > Is there something I'm doing wrong? > Is there at least a way to get to a point where I have a prompt and I > can format hard disks and copy files? > > Any help would be appreciated. > > Here is the last part of the boot window output: > .. stuff deleted. For installation purposes, you must use the CDROM in the primary controller, after installation you can put the CDROM in second controller and add another instance of the EIDE driver with IRQ=15 Mem=170. Hope it helps, -- Albino Santos Email albino@vantec.pt ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ VANTeC Tel +351 2 6107420 Rua da Preciosa, 306 - 1 Fax +351 2 6107419 4100 PORTO MIME & NeXTmail welcome PORTUGAL URL: http://www.cibertribe.pt/vantec/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Message-ID: <344EEC65.EA2A4ED2@nospam.olywa.net> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:20:08 -0700 From: Aaron Tuller <mandelbaum@nospam.olywa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: buying used systems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've recently gotten obsessed with buying an original NeXT system and it seems like there are two main options. I could go with someone like DeepSpace or Spherical and buy a system from a dealer knowing that it works and having a warranty and the ease of dealing wtih a business. Or I could buy one from someone on comp.sys.net.marketplace which seems to have some good stuff for sale bundled with a bunch of software and accessories which add to the price, but will keep me from having to go out and find (and buy) software or hardware as I need it. My question is, how much do I lose by buying a system "raw" from a dealer? I will be hooking it up to Ethernet so I could download software, is there enough software on the net for me to make use of the NeXT without having to spend money buying a bunch of software, or will I really just have a system that can't do anything? I'm totally new to NEXTSTEP and the platform in general and am curious if any of you have a suggestion or have experience, please fill me in. Thanks a lot... -aaron -remove the "nospam." to email me.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Date: 23 Oct 1997 11:56:45 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <62ne1t$3e2$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) writes: > Uh, stone me if this was a joke I didn't notice. But = will print to > stdout, not to the "desktop". That is, on my machine: > > carmi> pft > Connection to PostScript established. > version = > 2011.102 Yay ! At last a decent floating point replacement for "dc" (yes, I know this is probably a horrible abouse of the system, but...) -bat.
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Date: 23 Oct 1997 15:49:25 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <62nrm5$a6o$1@news.platinum.com> References: <344DBD8B.9704C846@esec.com> <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <62l52k$8vr$1@news.platinum.com> <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu In <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Sean Luke wrote: > Gary W. Longsine (gary-nospam-@screaming.org) wrote: > >In <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> it appeared that mmalcolm crawford > >wrote: > >> > >> In a Terminal window, run pft (this makes a connection to the Window > >> Server), then copy and paste the following, and look in the lower left > >> corner... > > > >lower left of the desktop, that is. It writes in black, so if you have a > >black > >desktop you'll need to reset it to some other color for a bit to see this. > > > > : ) > > Uh, stone me if this was a joke I didn't notice. But = will print to > stdout, not to the "desktop". That is, on my machine: > > carmi> pft > Connection to PostScript established. > version = > 2011.102 It's not a joke. Notice that my reply was to mmalc, and refers to the ps code that mmalc suggested. give it a try, and you'll see that it prints the version in fancy outline numbers on the bottom left of the desktop (only you won't be able to see it if your desktop is black). /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <01bce150$d02ee9e0$6fac82d0@default> Control: cancel <01bce150$d02ee9e0$6fac82d0@default> Date: 25 Oct 1997 14:14:46 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.01bce150$d02ee9e0$6fac82d0@default> Sender: "cindy" <sweetand sexy@cmm.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Cedric" <john@vt.vortex.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multi OS Date: 26 Oct 1997 02:50:09 GMT Organization: CrossRoads Access Corporation Message-ID: <01bca706$c4ec63c0$027fbdcc@default> References: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> <34433B58.323F@treknet.is> <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com> Hello. I would like to install NeXtstep/OpenStep for Intel. How do I get it? Matthew Traylor carmina@tsixroads.com Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote in article <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com>... > In article <34433B58.323F@treknet.is>, > Sigthor Hrafnsson <siffi@treknet.is> wrote: > >Paul Taylor wrote: > >> > >> I want to install OpenStep 4.2, NT4 Server, Linux and Win95 on the > >> same drive. Any tips on the best way to do this? > >> > >> Paul > >Hi > > > >Install OpenStep last, so that you won't lose the OpenStep boot promt. > >Windows 95 has the nasty habit of overwriting the boot promt. > > I second that notion. Win95 also likes to overwrite the disk for itself, > so one of the MS operating systems should be installed first. I > personally recommend that you get "System Commander 3.0" or higher. This > is a commercial product (sells for about $60 at most computer stores) > which installs a special boot block and boot menu. It knows all about > Win(95|NT), Linux, OpenStep, OS/2, and many others. It is also very useful > for installing multiple OS configurations commonly needed for DOS games > without the pain of boot disks. > > I use System Commander to multi-boot OpenStep, Win95, OS/2 Warp 4, and > Linux. I'll probably add Rhapsody RDR to that mix. Special note: Linux > and OS/2 are the only OSes which support booting from the second physical > drive. Also, some OSes (maybe OpenStep) require their boot partition to > start before cylinder 1024. > > Disclaimer: I just use System Commander. I do not have any affiliation > with the manufacturer. > > Good Luck, > Chris > > -- > Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software > cdouty@netcom.com > "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated > according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic > aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon >
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * Rhapsody web browser? Date: 25 Oct 1997 03:37:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <62rpi5$34a$1@news.digifix.com> References: <62q9ad$k0h@cnj.digex.net> <62rd3r$kj8$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In-Reply-To: <62rd3r$kj8$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> On 10/24/97, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: >starman@cnj.digex.net (Starman) wrote: > >> Is a web browser supposed to ship with Rhapsody DR1? If so, where >> is it located, and if not, where can I DL one? Thanks. > > >Beta 1 of OmniWeb 3 comes on the Third Party Apps disc with RDR. >However, beta 2 is now available, and since it is a vast improvement >on beta 1, and because beta 1 can't download files (beta 2 can), >we strongly recommend completely bypassing the copy on the >distribution disc, and grabbing the new beta directly from our >web site or ftp site. > >http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ >ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb/ > >Those wanting OmniWeb for the Rhapsody Developer Release will want >the package with RDR in its name. > I downloaded OW 3 and tried it on OpenStep 4.2 today. Yes, its not completely stable, but thats expected of a beta product. However, I was BLOWN AWAY by the HTML source editing. Nice colorization, checking for errors as you edit, and a killer reformatting of HTML source for easy reading. Hopefully Omni will split out the editor into a separate product. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Downloading NeXT apps Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:20:17 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2510971220170001@frazer.com> References: <62m8kq$5eh@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> <62pbb4$rlm$1@news.platinum.com> <62pejv$5m9$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <62pejv$5m9$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > Actually the setup is easy... it's dealing with the actual dialing and > negotiating the connection which is hard.... especially if they use PAP/CHAP. It used to be bad. There were various servers with buggy code out there. Suspect it is better now.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <62t9mm$633$727@news.ispn.net> Control: cancel <62t9mm$633$727@news.ispn.net> Date: 25 Oct 1997 17:20:38 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.62t9mm$633$727@news.ispn.net> Sender: erob@savoynet.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <21870877233630@digifix.com> Date: 26 Oct 1997 03:48:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13622877838422@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <261097003808@vacations-5.com> Date: 26 Oct 1997 06:05:51 GMT Control: cancel <261097003808@vacations-5.com> Message-ID: <cancel.261097003808@vacations-5.com> Sender: "FREE" free@vacations-5.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New Rhapsody Book Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:10:49 -0500 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <34534F68.BCE@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I was at Borders Bookstore the other day and accidentally discovered there is a new book on Rhapsody. I also found it on Amazon.com. The book is: Rhapsody Developer's Guide by Jesse Feiler 1 Edition Paperback Published by Ap Professional Publication date: August 1, 1997 Dimensions (in inches): 9.22 x 7.41 x 1.31 ISBN: 0122513347 Regards, Wassim Jabi (mailto:wj@writeme.com) University At Buffalo
From: "Damien Guard (Envy Technologies)" <envy@guernsey.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep dev tools Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 18:52:05 -0000 Organization: Global SprintLink Message-ID: <345390bd.0@news2.guernsey.net> Okay, I finally got OpenStep installed (after 3 days) - eventually I had to install the first part from SCSI CD-ROM then the second part from ATAPI CD-ROM (loading the EIDE driver as an additional driver). Done that fine. Managed to finally figure out how to get my system to ask me for a login. (Set a password for 'me' seemed a bit convoluted). Logged in as root. Installed the DeveloperTools... Problem is that only HeaderBrowser and the Icon Editor work! ProjectBuilder simply starts loading then vanishes leaving /000's all over the console window while the debug and InterfaceBuilder apps start loading and never finish. Tried reinstalling a few times. No joy. Am I missing something? The manuals are awful when it comes to 'troubleshooting' and I have installed the developer tools exactly as per the little leaflet in the CD-ROM. I always thought NextStep was supposed to be an excellent system but so far I've found that it barely installs on my hardware (that has run OS/2, NT, 95, NovellDOS...) and then doesn't load developer tools. PPP is a pain to setup - having to email from work now... Regards, [)amien
From: abruce@peop.tdsnet.com (Angie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: modem "no dialtone" Date: 27 Oct 1997 14:22:05 GMT Organization: TDSNET Internet Services(http://www.tds.net) Message-ID: <63282d$pha@news2.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm posting this for a friend because she can't get online. At first her computer was saying it didn't see the modem, now it see it but the error message says "no dialtone" ?? She's changed the phone line and hooked a phone to it as well an using the phone she hears the dialtone and it able to dial. Any suggestions on what to check now ?? Thanks, Angie
From: "James N. Greene" <greene@phy.uab.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: again, (sorry TjL!), NS 3.3 on Virtual PC on MacOS 8? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:09:10 -0600 Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham Message-ID: <3454D8C6.CA6@phy.uab.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Several newsgroup posts and even Virtual PC's packaging suggest that it is possible to install OPENSTEP on Virtual PC. I have NeXTSTEP 3.3 running on a Turbo ColorStation and would like to install it on my NuBus-class Mac. I've tried installing 3.3 as suggested by the information available from NeXTAnswers and Connectix, but installation hangs consistently at "Power Management is Enabled." ATAPI and IDE drivers seem to be correct ... the Mach kernel seems to recognize both the CD and the virtual IDE hard drive. There are significant differences between NeXTSTEP and OPENSTEP, but would any of those differences allow one to be installed on Virtual PC but not the other? Thank you, Jim Greene Physics Dept. University of Alabama at Birmingham The most recent EIDE/ATAPI driver for 3.3 is version 3.31. Version 4.01 of the driver (which, beacuse it is for "Dual" EIDE, would probably make everything work properly) appears to be OPENSTEP-only (not NeXTSTEP-compatible).
From: "Pete Chang" <petec@mynet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Downloading NeXT apps Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:00:06 -0500 Message-ID: <632ko0$d5i$1@newsfep2.sprintmail.com> References: <62m8kq$5eh@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> >okay, > >i just set up my (intel) system, with a triple boot for >dos, NS, and Red Hat. My question is this: can I download >files via ftp or whatever onto a _dos_ formatted disk, >mount that disk under NS, and copy it over without >corrupting it? or are the file systems too different? > >i'm eager to get some new apps to mess around with... > >LL If you are able to, try using ftp from your RedHat partition. You can configure the kernel to recognize DOS, Win95, NS, etc file systems which should keep the file native naming conventions in tact. Personally, have my Intel box setup to dual boot Win95 (ugh, a necessary evil for work) and RedHat Linux 4.2. I work almost exclusively in Linux, and have configured my kernel to read not only DOS (FAT) and Win95 (VFAT), but also NS binaries for download purposes. I currently have a Color Turbo that I want to network into this mix, and this should provide yet another way of getting the files I need from multiple sources.
From: Christy George <georgec@wellsfargo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multi OS Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:35:54 -0800 Organization: Wells Fargo Bank Message-ID: <3454ED1A.20D79A5A@wellsfargo.com> References: <3439898f.1409655@news.demon.co.uk> <34433B58.323F@treknet.is> <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com> <01bca706$c4ec63c0$027fbdcc@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Cedric <john@vt.vortex.org> Hi there, I would also be interested. So, if you find out any information, do pass it on. Appreciate your help. Also, i am not a student .... However, it is for personal use! Thanks, Christy Cedric wrote: > Hello. I would like to install NeXtstep/OpenStep for Intel. How do I get > it? > Matthew Traylor carmina@tsixroads.com > > Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote in article > <cdoutyEI63y6.KJ7@netcom.com>... > > In article <34433B58.323F@treknet.is>, > > Sigthor Hrafnsson <siffi@treknet.is> wrote: > > >Paul Taylor wrote: > > >> > > >> I want to install OpenStep 4.2, NT4 Server, Linux and Win95 on the > > >> same drive. Any tips on the best way to do this? > > >> > > >> Paul > > >Hi > > > > > >Install OpenStep last, so that you won't lose the OpenStep boot promt. > > >Windows 95 has the nasty habit of overwriting the boot promt. > > > > I second that notion. Win95 also likes to overwrite the disk for itself, > > > so one of the MS operating systems should be installed first. I > > personally recommend that you get "System Commander 3.0" or higher. This > > > is a commercial product (sells for about $60 at most computer stores) > > which installs a special boot block and boot menu. It knows all about > > Win(95|NT), Linux, OpenStep, OS/2, and many others. It is also very > useful > > for installing multiple OS configurations commonly needed for DOS games > > without the pain of boot disks. > > > > I use System Commander to multi-boot OpenStep, Win95, OS/2 Warp 4, and > > Linux. I'll probably add Rhapsody RDR to that mix. Special note: Linux > > and OS/2 are the only OSes which support booting from the second physical > > > drive. Also, some OSes (maybe OpenStep) require their boot partition to > > start before cylinder 1024. > > > > Disclaimer: I just use System Commander. I do not have any affiliation > > with the manufacturer. > > > > Good Luck, > > Chris > > > > -- > > Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software > > cdouty@netcom.com > > "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are > correlated > > according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These > semantic > > aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." > -Shannon > >
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 28 Oct 1997 00:48:40 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <633cp8$lqa$2@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <344DBD8B.9704C846@esec.com> <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Gary W. Longsine (longsine_nospam_@platinum.com) wrote: >In <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Sean Luke wrote: >> >> Uh, stone me if this was a joke I didn't notice. But = will print to >> stdout, not to the "desktop". That is, on my machine: [Sean gets pelted with stones] >It's not a joke. Notice that my reply was to mmalc, and refers to >the ps code that mmalc suggested. give it a try, and you'll see that it >prints the version in fancy outline numbers on the bottom left >of the desktop (only you won't be able to see it if your desktop >is black). Well, that's what I get for not reading closely enough. *duh*. BTW, I get the window, but sadly it doesn't appear to work with the PS interpreter for NS 3.2 (my box). _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: "Mark Jenkins" <markj@inwave.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SMC 9432 Driver? Date: 28 Oct 97 00:35:14 +0000 Message-ID: <B07AE3C6-1902EA@207.49.245.244> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.alpha.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.alpha.net/comp.sys.next.misc I'm trying to find an Intel (OS 4.2 Mach) driver for the SMC EtherPower II 10/100 (9432TX). The drivers for the 9332 will not work with the 9432TX. Anybody? Thanks Mark Jenkins markj@inwave.com
From: Barry Leslie <Barry.Leslie@snap.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Installer Trashed System.framwork Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:56:19 +0100 Organization: snap.de Message-ID: <3455C4C4.4692@snap.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use to have OpenStep 4.2 installed and running where I was doing development work until I decided to install the PDO developer libs. I already had the Intel libs so when the installer asked which versions I wanted I checked only the PDO versions. The installer then went off and trashed my System.framwork so that nothing worked any more. I thought that I could boot off the install CD but of course the install CD only wants to install. WHAT A F&%KING SYSTEM! I am now reinstalling the OS. Oh what fun. As I write this I watch the OS try to install and notice that it is getting read errors from the CD. What A piece of SH?T! -- Barry Leslie
From: rraman@osf1.gmu.edu (RAVISHANKAR RAMANATHAN) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing NS3.3 on a laptop Date: 23 Oct 1997 05:14:32 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Message-ID: <62mmfo$63t@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: I am thinking of installing NS3.3 on a Gateway Solo 2300SE. Has anyone tried this? Specifically, this laptop has one of those modular bays that swaps out CD-ROM Drive and Floppy Drive (only one can be used at any time.) How does one install NS3.3 which has a boot floppy and the cdrom. Thanks in advance for all help. Ravi
From: Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Downloading NeXT apps Date: 23 Oct 1997 05:22:48 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <62mmv8$ank$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <62m8kq$5eh@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> <62mkns$5kr@mochi.lava.net> In-Reply-To: <62mkns$5kr@mochi.lava.net> On 10/22/97, Art Isbell - remove "DOT" wrote: > NS understands DOS floppies fine, so no corruption > will occur because of the different file systems. > However, DOS' brain-damaged 8.3 filenames will > hose most examples because their file names are > considerably more expressive than that. So after > copying your examples from the DOS floppy to a > NS-formatted drive, you'll need to rename all of > the files whose names were corrupted. The easiest thing, in most cases, is to give it a shortname (all lowercase, less than 8 characters) and change the 'tar.gz' to 'tgz' Opener.app knows what to do with a .tgz file (it assumes it is a tar.gz file) and when it is un-compressed the filenames inside it will be fine. I hope that made sense TjL
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: Installer Trashed System.framwork Date: 28 Oct 1997 16:33:04 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <635440$94q$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3455C4C4.4692@snap.de> Cc: Barry.Leslie@snap.de In <3455C4C4.4692@snap.de> Barry Leslie wrote: > I use to have OpenStep 4.2 installed and running where I was doing > development work until I decided to install the PDO developer libs. > I already had the Intel libs so when the installer asked which versions > I wanted I checked only the PDO versions. The installer then went off > and trashed my System.framwork so that nothing worked any more. > > I thought that I could boot off the install CD but of course the install > CD only wants to install. > > WHAT A F&%KING SYSTEM! > > I am now reinstalling the OS. Oh what fun. > > As I write this I watch the OS try to install and notice that it is > getting read errors from the CD. > > What A piece of SH?T! > I understand your sentiments. I agree that there should be some kind of application or script available on CD that could do a restore on a hosed installation. I once had some files and directories get munched by a disk grok, and wanted to replace them from the CD but it wasn't easy to first locate the lost chunks, and then to replace them completely from CD. And if you don't have a working system then one is forced to use the CD in single user mode if your lucky and the only options are to reinstall vs. repair installation.. I may (when I get some free time) write a command line script that does exactly what I'm suggesting above and submit it to Apple and the world.. I hope it can be something that can fit on a boot floppy where it is sorely needed.. As to your read errors don't blame Openstep blame your S*%TTY CD-ROM. Also if there are folks out there that really want something like this to show up more quickly to$$ing $ome at me might get it done a little faster.. Sincerely, Randy Rencsok rencsok (at) channelu (d0t) com
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <6353s9$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <6353s9$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Date: 28 Oct 1997 16:39:04 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6353s9$7pn@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Sender: ATTRACT WOMEN NOW<miker45@crmaen.net> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: multi OS Date: 28 Oct 1997 22:46:35 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <635q0b$1cn@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> FYI, you can boot NT 4.0 off a second physical drive, as long as you have win95 to boot it. I have it set up on my intel box with win95/NT/Linux/OpenStep4.2. I personally recommend LILO - i've never had a problem with it. my 2 cents, LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: printing over smb Date: 28 Oct 1997 15:23:40 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <63501s$8o4$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <623afm$ium@poisson.nosc.mil> hidinger@spawar.navy.mil (Ronald M. Hidinger) writes: > Is there any way to use a windows hosted printer directly from the print > menu? > I can print a file via smbclient from a terminal shell, but I'd like to > integrate > it with the netinfo manager like tcp/ip printers. yup - not a problem. The following is from my printcap file... Csg_Raw: \ :lp=/dev/null:ty=Unknown:if=/usr/local/samba/bin/csgprint: \ :note=Raw data ONLY:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Csg_Raw:lo=lock: The shell script is: #!/bin/sh ( /bin/echo printmode graphics /bin/echo print - /bin/cat ) | /usr/local/samba/bin/smbclient '\\csgserv\csg660c' -U user%pass -P Where "user" and "pass" are the name & password for the shared printed csg660c on the NT box at the far end. I actually drive this using JetPilot to interpret the PostSCript - which is set to send it's output to IPLPR and the printer "Csg_Raw". You won't need this if you have PS printer at the far end - and can thus just use the raw printer directly... -bat.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: buying used systems Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIIMv0.626@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:49:48 GMT References: <344EEC65.EA2A4ED2@nospam.olywa.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <344EEC65.EA2A4ED2@nospam.olywa.net>, Aaron Tuller <mandelbaum@nospam.olywa.net> wrote: >I've recently gotten obsessed with buying an original NeXT system and it >seems like there are two main options. I could go with someone like >DeepSpace or Spherical and buy a system from a dealer knowing that it >works and having a warranty and the ease of dealing wtih a business. Yep. I've bought from both Spherical and Deepspace. Excellent service from both and my machines chug along 24/7 (the one form Spherical for about four years, the one from Deepspace since I got it in June). >My question >is, how much do I lose by buying a system "raw" from a dealer? I will >be hooking it up to Ethernet so I could download software, is there >enough software on the net for me to make use of the NeXT without having >to spend money buying a bunch of software, or will I really just have a >system that can't do anything? You'll be all set. When Lighthouse released all of their apps for basically general consumption a few months ago the NeXTSTEP community got an invaluable set of productivity apps. Anything you could want, in terms of general use, is there. And there are lots of PD apps that will help you along too. I'm not suggesting that buying from an individual is a bad idea but, if you do go for the "business" approach, you'll be fine. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Damien Guard (Envy Technologies)" <envy@guernsey.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep for Mach install problems Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:40:45 +0100 Organization: Global SprintLink Message-ID: <34505e68.0@news2.guernsey.net> I am installing this on my system and experiencing BIG problems. I have removed all non-essential devices but am still having a problem. What happens is that the first part of the install from floppy/cd combo works fine but then on the subsequent reboot it hangs with the 'System started' message. I have started Mach in -v mode and get a message stating that login could not access WindowServer port! The only hardware left in my machine is: VX motherboard 2x32mb EDO ram Adaptec 2940AU SCSI Fujitsu 1gb SCSI drive (Internal) Pioneer DRM624 6-cd jukebox (External) Diamond Stealth Video 2500 (Alliance ProMotion graphics) I know the graphics card isn't supported but I have also tried a Matrox Millenium II and also tried replacing the CD-ROM with a Plasmon single-disc CD-R that stops at the same point. I have the OpenStep 4.2 user CD loaded when this happens and it appears to mount correctly! I have tried resetting BIOS settings and also resetting the Adaptec card! Help, please! [)amien
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Re: OPENSTEP & PostSCript Date: 24 Oct 1997 10:20:34 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <62pspi$mgn$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <344DBD8B.9704C846@esec.com> <62khoj$ngo$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <62l52k$8vr$1@news.platinum.com> <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> In-Reply-To: <62m64t$7b1$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> On 10/23/97, Sean Luke wrote: >Uh, stone me if this was a joke I didn't notice. But = will print to >stdout, not to the "desktop". That is, on my machine: > No, it wasn't a joke... I guess maybe I should have included the "boring" "=" way of doing it too, but I loved Mike's example and thought it worth using in a "practical" way. It's not a black image, by the way; if you "step" through the code (copy and paste a line at a time) you'll find that the gradientimage actually runs from black to deep blue -- very pretty. It seems this is a new operator in OS 4 since it doesn't work with NEXTSTEP 3.3. Best wishes, mmalc.
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From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: * Rhapsody web browser? Date: 25 Oct 1997 00:05:15 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <62rd3r$kj8$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <62q9ad$k0h@cnj.digex.net> starman@cnj.digex.net (Starman) wrote: > Is a web browser supposed to ship with Rhapsody DR1? If so, where > is it located, and if not, where can I DL one? Thanks. Beta 1 of OmniWeb 3 comes on the Third Party Apps disc with RDR. However, beta 2 is now available, and since it is a vast improvement on beta 1, and because beta 1 can't download files (beta 2 can), we strongly recommend completely bypassing the copy on the distribution disc, and grabbing the new beta directly from our web site or ftp site. http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniWeb/3/ ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb/ Those wanting OmniWeb for the Rhapsody Developer Release will want the package with RDR in its name. --- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
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From: "John McCourt" <user@jimmy.softnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 15 year old needs help re registry & bad sectors Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 11:28:34 -0000 Organization: [not set] Message-ID: <639tl1$eor$11@svr-c-01.core.theplanet.net> I recently had a new hard disk installed, it had no bad sectors. I have had trouble with starting computer - message saying could not write to C and to repair registry. It was not able to repair. Suggests to run scandisk, I have run scandisk a few times, each time it corrects a lot of problems and says there are bad sectors. The amount of bad sectors has increased each time I run scandisk. Why will the computer not write to drive C? What causes bad sectors? Can they be fixed? What is causing the computer not to read the registry? Can it be repaired? The only way I can get the computer to run is install Windows 95 again, that works untill I restart then the problem repeats. Any help would be welcome but please keep it simple as I am a 15 year old beginner. John McCourt
From: "Ĭ¥Ã¦¨" <ycsu@ms9.hinet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [wanted] OpenStep 4.1 Boot & Install Disks (3 disks) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 21:51:29 +0800 Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <63a349$5u4@netnews.hinet.net> Could any one tell me how to find OpenStep 4.1 Boot Disk? Where can I find it ? Thanks!!
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [wanted] OpenStep 4.1 Boot & Install Disks (3 disks) Date: 30 Oct 1997 14:21:19 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <63a54v$qrr$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <63a349$5u4@netnews.hinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ycsu@ms9.hinet.net In <63a349$5u4@netnews.hinet.net> "Ĭ¥Ã¦¨" wrote: > Could any one tell me how to find OpenStep 4.1 Boot Disk? > Where can I find it ? Thanks!! How about: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html Nb: you can use pretty much any version of the boot disk to install the system, however if you simply *must* have a 4.1 version: ftp://ftp.plsys.co.uk/pub/Misc/FloppyImages/OS4_Intel_Boot_Floppy_Image.floppyimage Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478

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