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From: caseymck@flash.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: amd processor Date: 30 Aug 1997 20:20:36 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <5u9vak$38p$1@excalibur.flash.net> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> On 08/28/97, Jung Woo Lee wrote: >can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are >problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering. > I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.3 on an AMD K6 233 / ASUS T2P4 with NO problems - it's VERY fast! Casey
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 30 Aug 1997 22:05:54 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-3008971515070001@i534.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> <5u9go9$3ug$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> I guess evryone has a different idea of the word... Sometimes it gets hard to tell. Our newsletter covers advocacy issues, announcements, hardware, software,marketplace, misc, etc.... That is why I had posted to those various groups. But I can see about cross posting, which can get repetitive at times for those that subscribe to all the NeXT groups. For some of us, we subscribe to so many groups, that I thought it important to put them in different ones just in case these folks do not subscribe to say announce or marketplace. The Misc group seemed a perfect fit for my message... Anyway, I think we all have learned a little about this subject and I thank you for your post. Take care, TJ @Society In article <5u9go9$3ug$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu>, nurban@vt.edu wrote: > In article <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net>, tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > > > I have always thought that SPAM was when messages were left in newsgroups > > that had nothing to do with that group. In my case, I have left NeXT > > messages in NeXT groups. Is that considered Spamming?? > > Spamming is when you post something to inappropriate newsgroups, > especially when you post to many such groups. Since your article didn't > belong in c.s.n.misc, that could be construed as spamming.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Date: 31 Aug 1997 03:53:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: stuart@krivis.com (Stuart Krivis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OPENSTEP newbie Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 16:12:02 GMT Organization: Yoyodyne Propulsion Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Warning - newbie alert! :-) I just got OS 4.2 Mach for Intel and am having a rough time of it. I can't seem to get my soundcard to work. It's a SB 32PNP. Anyone have experience with these? I also wanted to install a friendlier shell like bash. (Got to have my bash!) I got a tarball from a Linux CD, but tar tells me that the device rxt0 doesn't exist. Hmmm... PPP is also giving me fits. OS doesn't seem to come with as much setup for you as do the Linux distributions I've played with. There's no link to modem and I don't see a series of cua0, cua1, etc. to represent serial ports. I found an FAQ on PPP for NS and will try going through that if it actually still applies to OS. The LKS stuff makes sense because running pppd produces a message telling me ppp hasn't been installed on my system. I guess I need to modify resolv.conf, /etc/ppp/options, /etc/ppp/pap-secrets, and figure out if OS uses chat. The stuff in /etc/ppp/Examples didn't help that much and most of it doesn't look familiar. I will also need to get a Web Browser once I'm up. Any suggestions? TIA -- Stuart Krivis stuart@krivis.com [Team OS/2]
From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP newbie Date: 31 Aug 1997 15:29:57 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <5uc2ll$dvh$1@news2.digex.net> References: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> stuart@krivis.com (Stuart Krivis) wrote: >Warning - newbie alert! :-) >I can't seem to get my soundcard to work. It's a SB 32PNP. Anyone have >experience with these? sorry, can't help with this >I also wanted to install a friendlier shell like bash. (Got to have my >bash!) I got a tarball from a Linux CD, but tar tells me that the >device rxt0 doesn't exist. Hmmm... are you using tar xf <filename>? that should extract it > >I will also need to get a Web Browser once I'm up. Any suggestions? > OmniWeb 2.x from www.omnigroup.com -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade
From: jfranco@eyestreet.com (Jeff Franco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: amd processor Date: Sun, 31 Aug 1997 13:23:52 GMT Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Message-ID: <34096ff0.2185392@usenet.psinet.com> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <5u5q85$gpk$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 29 Aug 1997 06:29:25 GMT, nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >In <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Jung Woo Lee wrote: >> can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are >> problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering. > >I believe so, because it does not have the multitasking bug that Cyrix does > > Oh no! I just bought a cyrix 686 and have been trying to install NeXTSTEP 3.3 on it for about 2 days. What is this bug? And does the bug prevent one from running/installing NeXT? Thanks, Jeff Franco jfranco@eyestreet.com
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <81f7cd$102719.3c0@NEWS> Control: cancel <81f7cd$102719.3c0@NEWS> Date: 31 Aug 1997 21:26:59 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.81f7cd$102719.3c0@NEWS> Sender: grants@ForYou.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 31 Aug 1997 20:45:40 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: ryan@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: amd processor Date: 31 Aug 1997 21:46:49 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5ucoo9$nh5$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <5u5q85$gpk$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <34096ff0.2185392@usenet.psinet.com> >>In <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Jung Woo Lee wrote: >>> can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are >>> problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering. >> >>I believe so, because it does not have the multitasking bug that Cyrix does >> >> > >Oh no! I just bought a cyrix 686 and have been trying to install >NeXTSTEP 3.3 on it for about 2 days. What is this bug? And does the >bug prevent one from running/installing NeXT? > You can get a Cyrix to run NEXTSTEP. The problem that you will have is with application that use multiple threads(ie OmniWeb). This is where the Curix chip is not fully compatible with with Intel chips the wayt hat AMD is. Ryan
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5ud2i4$np2$8433@kayrad.ziplink.net> Control: cancel <5ud2i4$np2$8433@kayrad.ziplink.net> Date: 01 Sep 1997 08:07:55 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5ud2i4$np2$8433@kayrad.ziplink.net> Sender: Cheri@aol.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiler Date: 1 Sep 1997 12:56:21 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5uee1l$o5n$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu In <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> Sean Harding wrote: > Hi all...I just ordered a Color NeXTStation which comes with NS3.3 User. I > have a question about that...Does the fact that it doesn't come with > "developer" mean that it has no C/C++ compiler at all? I'm just hoping > to have gcc/g++ and the appropriate libraries to be able to compile > software. Is this possible out of the box? If not, is there an easy/cheap > solution? Plain user systems don't come with a compiler, neither do they come with any of the other compilation tools like ld or as or any header files, so you can't even grab a precompiled gcc from the archives. However: you're a student. You can get the User+Developer distribution for something like $300 --- what would cost over $5000 if you bought it at list price. You can get any version for that same price, so you could grab the latest OS4.2 release if you wanted to. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP newbie Date: 1 Sep 1997 16:08:19 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> References: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> In-Reply-To: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> On 08/31/97, Stuart Krivis wrote: >I just got OS 4.2 Mach for Intel and am having a rough time of it. >I can't seem to get my soundcard to work. It's a SB 32PNP. Anyone >have experience with these? See http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/FactBase.woa/4374 914481554563571123995859011611/TopicsPage.wo/18017676810611/1.1.5/-/di gifix for the best directions on how to get Soundblaster 16/32/64 PnP cards to work. Here are the details: ***** How can I use my SoundBlaster AWE64? Be sure that you have the latest EISABus driver installed (at least version 4.03) _NeXTanswer #2270_. Install the latest SoundBlaster 16 PnP driver _NeXTanswer #2407_. When you reboot, if sound is working, you're all set. Otherwise, you'll need to do the following.. Open a terminal window using /NextApps/Terminal.app. At the prompt, type this /private/Drivers/i386/EISABus.config/PnPDump The goal here is to find out the value that should have been auto-detected by the driver. If the SoundBlaster card is listed in the output from PnPDump, you will see a line that says something similar to this... id string(21) 'Creative SB AWE64 PnP' Logical Device 0: Id CTL0042 (0xe8c0042) Open Configure.app, select your SoundBlaster 16 PnP driver and click on the Expert button. You will see a list of keys and values, one of which should be Auto Detect Ids. Replase the hex number value that is currently there with the underlined number above. Be sure to hit return! This is important. Click OK, save you changes in Configure.app, and reboot. You should now have working sound! ***** >I found an FAQ on PPP for NS and will try >going through that if it actually still applies to OS. The LKS stuff >makes sense because running pppd produces a message telling me ppp >hasn't been installed on my system. Follow these PPP directions. I also recommend getting a copy of GateKeeper, an application which automates the process up making a PPP connection: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/ppp/GateKeeper.2.1.NI.b .tar.gz >I will also need to get a Web Browser once I'm up. Any suggestions? Omniweb is the best browser, IMHO. You can get it at: ftp://ftp.omnigroup.com/pub/software/OmniWeb/OmniWeb-2.6-NIHS.tar.gz -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) -=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============- -===================================================================- "Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe. Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers Conference, May 16th, 1997 -===================================================================- -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) -=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============- -===================================================================- "Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe. Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers Conference, May 16th, 1997 -===================================================================-
From: Captain Howdy <captan@bellsouth.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Next Box for sale or trade Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 12:04:52 -0400 Organization: S.E.A.D.S. Message-ID: <340AE7A4.3BB0@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale: Nzxt Box MC68040 CPU, 8mEgs ram, 660MB SCSI hard drive, XT-8760s, 17" moniter. IncludesFrame Maker, Lotus Improve nd system2 Manual docs and Floptical drive, pluss system 3 manual. Best offer asking $700.00. (954)-583-2860 our computer club At Broward Community College is hoping to use the money from this system to get a Pentium pc for out club and the students to use. For further information please contact me at E-mail captain@bellsouth.net
From: Richard Beigel <beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MkMagic script Date: Mon, 01 Sep 1997 17:08:25 -0400 Message-ID: <340B2EC9.F34A121@eecs.lehigh.edu> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu Where can I get the MkMagic script in order to create a bootable floppy? I tried Peanuts but it seems to have only software.
From: hn42@labdien.cc.columbia.edu (Hyung-Song Nam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Burning a backup CD of OS4.2 for mach on PC Date: 2 Sep 1997 06:52:40 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <5ugd3o$qnm$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> hi, I'm attempting to burn a backup CD of OS4.2 for Mach CD, but it fails when I try to write to an ISO image file. Has anyone succeeded in burning a backup copy? If so, please let me know how it was done. Please reply via email. Thanks. -- -Hyung-song Nam
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AppleTalk and OS4.1 Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:05:40 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugds4$8j7$6@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5ufhav$fs@picayune.uark.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bob@columbia.uark.edu I think CAPer is what you are looking for http://www.this.net/~frank TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: beigel@cs.umd.edu (Richard Beigel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: no login window Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:30:54 GMT Organization: U. Maryland, College Park, MD 20742-3251 Message-ID: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: beigel I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come up with a login window? -- Richard Beigel telephone: (301)405-2764 Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel@cs.umd.edu University of Maryland fax: (301)405-6707 College Park, MD 20742-3251 office: A. V. Williams Bdg. #3171
From: nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP newbie Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:12:03 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5uge83$8j7$7@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jsamson@istar.ca In <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > On 08/31/97, Stuart Krivis wrote: > >I just got OS 4.2 Mach for Intel and am having a rough time of it. > >I can't seem to get my soundcard to work. It's a SB 32PNP. Anyone > >have experience with these? > > See > > http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/FactBase.woa/4374 > 914481554563571123995859011611/TopicsPage.wo/18017676810611/1.1.5/-/di > gifix I tried, and was told ``Invalid context ID in URL'' WebObjects can make it hard to point others to URLs.... I had several Stepwise URLs in my bookmarks that were timed out when I went to use them later: Jean-Paul> Your .sig showed up twice. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiler Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:20:57 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugeop$8j7$9@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> <5uee1l$o5n$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5uee1l$o5n$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Matthew Seaman wrote: > In <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> Sean Harding wrote: > > Does the fact that it doesn't come with "developer" mean that it has no > > C/C++ compiler at all? I'm just hoping to have gcc/g++ and the > > appropriate libraries to be able to compile software. Is this possible > > out of the box? If not, is there an easy/cheap solution? [snip] > However: you're a student. You can get the User+Developer distribution for > something like $300 --- what would cost over $5000 if you bought it at list > price. You can get any version for that same price, so you could grab the > latest OS4.2 release if you wanted to. While this is obviously true, it should be mentioned (I think) that NS 3.3 will compile ``generic UNIX'' stuff a lot easier than 4.x, at least in my experience. I'm still using 3.3 dev with 4.1 user. However, since you have a NeXT, you could probably also get away with 3.2, which many NeXT hardware folks are still using without problem. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Using NS as a print server Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:17:42 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugeim$8j7$8@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <340B2364.340D06F0@no-spam.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: garyb@slb.com In <340B2364.340D06F0@no-spam.slb.com> "Gary E. Bickford" wrote: I'm too tired to re-type my usual rant about my reasoning (which is sound) about why you should _not_ use a valid domain with a 'nospam' in front of it. If you're curious drop me a note. The punchline is that is ends up causing a lot more waste than it should. Try 'garyb@slb-dot-com' or 'garyb@slb_nospam_com' or 'garyb@slb.com.nospam' instead.... > Sorry if this is an old topic that's been beaten to death. I did look > around for an answer, but I'm not sure where to look, frankly. www.stepwise.com is a good place.... http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ is another (esp link to FAQ)... and www.dejanews.com is another. > I have a Nextstation, newly acquired, running 2.1, with printer. I also > have at least one each Mac & Windozer, all on 10BaseT ethernet. > Particularly with the Mac, I'd like to use the NeXT as a print server. > [How] can I do this, preferably without buying anything? Running 2.1 is the hardest part. You'd more than likely need 3.2 to run CAPer (http://www.this.net/~frank) for Mac and Samba for Winblows (overused, but I still like it ;-) > As an aside, the printer has been little used for some years. It seems > to be shadowing everything, with a faint echo of whatever is printed > about 4 inches farther down the page. I've tried cleaning & changing > toner cartridges, but that didn't help. Also, while regular print jobs > print in the correct position, the Postscript test pages print about 1/2 > inch too low on the page - the NeXT copyright text is broken by the > bottom of the page. Ugh. Haven't heard of that before.... Might be a fubar'd printer, unfortunately. Someone else might have better clues than myself on that, though. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Howto Access Serial Ports Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:24:03 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugeuj$8j7$10@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <eharley-0109971326390001@ppp-207-214-149-174.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: eharley@pacbell.net My first response was ``reach around the back of the computer'' but that's just because I've been with the relatives all weekend.... In <eharley-0109971326390001@ppp-207-214-149-174.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > Im running Openstep 4.2 for mach on intel and would like to know how I > access the serial ports. I tried doing a cat on several devices in the > /dev directory, but when I tried them I got erros like: Device does not > exist. I know the devices exist because I added them in with the configure > program, and have seen them be registered at startup with -v. You did the two-step of Serial Port & TTY Port server, right? If so, then you want something like kermit (or tip or cu if you are sadistic) which can be found at Peak: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/kermit.6.0.192.NIHS.bs.tar.gz TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MkMagic script Date: 2 Sep 1997 07:29:31 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ugf8r$8j7$11@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <340B2EC9.F34A121@eecs.lehigh.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu In <340B2EC9.F34A121@eecs.lehigh.edu> Richard Beigel wrote: > > Where can I get the MkMagic script in order to create a bootable floppy? http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/mkmagic.sh TjL ps -- when starting a new thread/asking a new question, it is best to select 'new' rather than 'Followup' and changing the Subject, as your post (and probably my followup) will be sorted under the 'amd processor' thread. -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 8 72pin SIMM sockets. What is this thing? Date: 1 Sep 1997 16:22:16 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5ueq3o$vr@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gmrca@isp.net In <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> "gmrca" wrote: > I have a Color NeXTStation, and need to know WhAT it is. > All of the specs that I see point to a slab having 4 SIMM > sockets, and 128megs max RAM. Does this mean I could > do 256? Or that it won't accept 32meg SIMMs? I appreciate > any help offerred. Thanx This is really a FAQ. Is the RAM expansion slot for the M56000 DSP. Until you want to use special sound software, you will never use it. > In addition, are there any hardware hacks to increase speed > on a slab? There's one overdrive kit that pushes a 25MHz slab to 50, but it's too expensive. There's nothing else, for the whole hardware design was done "around" the processor and a change in CPU clocking would require a lot of changes on board. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: glen_stewart@associate.com (Glen Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Rhapsody File System Support Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 05:49:11 -0500 Organization: http://associate.com Message-ID: <glen_stewart-0209970549110001@stewart-3.pnet.msen.com> Can anyone confirm when HFS support will be available in Rhapsody? Last I heard, it was not going to be in the DR1 release.
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 2 Sep 1997 11:03:16 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ugrpl$582$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <5u536b$5ds$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) writes: > fine, it prints out OK on my NeXT printer. But when I take the > postscript file to work to use a non-NeXT printer it fails because > the fonts are not included. I created the postscript with dvips -Z > but no font info gets stored. Any suggestions? Uh, try creating the font header by hand using fontloader. Should work. -bat.
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: no login window Date: 2 Sep 1997 13:13:52 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5uh3eg$q3c$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: beigel@cs.umd.edu In <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Richard Beigel wrote: > I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. > The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come > up with a login window? Set a password on the `me' account. Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: holger@object-factory.REMOVETHIS.com (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Best Alternative Web Dev Platform for Next User? Date: 2 Sep 1997 15:38:25 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5uhbth$sum$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5u6fc6$6gv$1@news2.charm.net> <5ufbod$br3$1@radjah.navigator.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Markus Wenzel wrote: > In <5u6fc6$6gv$1@news2.charm.net> The Rev. James D. Meacham wrote: > > Well, I've held out as long as I can, doing web development on my > > color turbo (which I love and will keep and use till it is dead, dead, > > dead), but, unfortunately, I must have something that runs Netscape > > with all that wizzy JavaScript and Java stuff. Question is, what is > > the best platform to do this on in terms of price/performance/etc? > > I've seen fully loaded SPARCstation 1, 1+, and 2s on > > misc.forsale.computers.workstation for between $250 - $500. Or should > > I (shudder) get an Intel machine instead? I really loathe Windows > > NT/95, and really would much prefer UNIX. Any input on this would be > > greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... > > Intel architecture does not mean NT or 95. You can run Solaris as well as on > a SPARCstation, only much faster. Or you could run FreeBSD and the latest Navigator, which would be even faster, and better supported as well. Displaying on NeXTSTEP works fine and looks even better than X11 in the first place, because DPS dithering is so superior. This might be important for web development. :-) All in all there is very little reason to use Windows. Holger -- holger"at"object-factory.com (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
From: robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Date: 1 Sep 1997 19:26:41 GMT Organization: OSN, Onlineservice Nuernberg, Germany Message-ID: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for strdup() is missing on my system. Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? Please reply via email only! Tnx! -- _ o Robert Hofmann | robert@next.amistep.osn.de, rhofmann@lucent.com |<)_/# | http://www.osn.de/user/amistep TT <T Amiga & NeXTSTEP | 2:2490/1015@fidonet, 39:171/101@amiganet
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I hate the word "newbie", but... Date: 2 Sep 1997 22:09:32 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5ui2qs$jki$1@news.platinum.com> References: <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> <5tj7jp$b1s$3@news.platinum.com> <01bcaf23$36415a20$86c147cf@jacob-1> Cc: timebomb@west.net In <01bcaf23$36415a20$86c147cf@jacob-1> it appeared that "Hunter Hillegas" wrote: > Why do you respond if you don't want to answer the questions? > Gary W. Longsine <longsine_nospam_@platinum.com> wrote: >> my patience is wearing thin... Although I answered most of the questions posed, and provided pointers on some others, I must say that this was a poor choice of phrasing. I should not have displayed my mood so openly. I tend to forget that not everyone has access to a web browser, or might not know where to point it for basic information on a topic. Sorry for my impatience. I'll try to do better. There is a FAQ posted here, in this newsgroup, monthly, which points to NeXTSTEP resources on the net. Among those are: www.stepwise.com www.next.com (the Apple Enterprise Software group aka enterprise.apple.com) www.apple.com (find "Rhapsody") next-ftp.peak.org (main NeXTSTEP/OpenStep ftp archive) www.gnustep.org (attempt to implement a free, portable, OpenStep) OK, I think that's enough pennance for one minor transgression. ;-) /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep MachOS PLATINUM technology, inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= the Dock (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: no login window Date: 2 Sep 1997 21:40:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5ui13s$m4i$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: beigel@cs.umd.edu In <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Richard Beigel wrote: > I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. > The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come > up with a login window? > > Change the password of the "me" account to anything. By default, "me" and "root" have no password. When the machine boots, if me has no password, it automatically logs in to that account. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: gnaegi@icu.unizh.ch (Florian Gnaegi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 and Apple Talk Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 01:49:54 +0100 Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Message-ID: <gnaegi-0309970149550001@rzuppppri2-26.unizh.ch> I'm missing the AppleTalk preference on the turbo I bought two weeks ago. Can I download it somewhere or how can I get it? tnx in advance flo
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5uib9k$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Control: cancel <5uib9k$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Date: 03 Sep 1997 01:11:39 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5uib9k$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Sender: FREE CABLE<pifer@laugh.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 and Apple Talk Date: 3 Sep 1997 01:17:55 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5uids3$4bf$3@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <gnaegi-0309970149550001@rzuppppri2-26.unizh.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gnaegi@icu.unizh.ch In <gnaegi-0309970149550001@rzuppppri2-26.unizh.ch> Florian Gnaegi wrote: > > I'm missing the AppleTalk preference on the turbo I bought two weeks ago. > Can I download it somewhere or how can I get it? Nope, it doesn't exist actually.... You can try CAPer instead. It's linked to http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
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From: connorbd@cleo.bc.edu (Coach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Yet Another Save-Apple proposal... comments? Date: Wed, 03 Sep 1997 09:33:47 -0500 Organization: Duchesne Brick and Block Message-ID: <connorbd-ya023480000309970933470001@delphi.bc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Most of what I've said so far has been in csm.advocacy, where everybody screams and nobody listens. This time I'm saying what I have to to the mainstream of the Mac world. I think there is a general agreement that Steve Jobs is being penny-wise and pound-foolish in his treatment of the cloners. People are already jumping ship over the PowerCC mess, even though the whole story isn't a done deal yet. Jobs himself, IMHO, seems to be unsure of what he's doing, short of punishing PowerCC for cherrypicking marketshare. The upshot, though, is that Apple has taken a massive credibility hit and is beginning to alienate not only users who don't give a damn, but diehards who know what the Mac could be if Apple only had stronger marketing. Apple may be a profitable company by January, but it won't matter worth a damn if they can't keep alienated customers from defecting. I'd like to offer my own humble suggestions for the perusal of anyone who reads this newsgroup, especially if there's someone with pull at Apple lurking out there. Feel free to comment. First, and foremost, Steve Jobs needs to take a less active role in the day-to-day management of Apple. If he tries to appoint himself the CEO, I foresee only disaster. Second, Apple needs to make some public acknowledgement of the point of view of the customers. While it likely wouldn't do much to rebuild their credibility with the more stubbornly disillusioned of us, it might help keep them (and the Mac) from being completely marginalized. Third, Apple needs to revisit the CHRP issue. They have to realize that not only can Motorola ship without Apple (and without MacOS; I'm sure Jean-Louis Gassee wouldn't mind at all if they came to him), they could theoretically blackmail Apple into settling in their favor. Just because they probably won't doesn't mean they can't *and doesn't mean they won't threaten it*. Fourth, Apple needs to make a commitment now to at least talk about 8.0.1, Allegro (which, if rumors about its feature set have it correctly, will probably be MacOS 9) and Rhapsody licensing *on CHRP*. I'm not saying they have to set down terms, never mind make any deals before the software is done, just... agree to talk. Finally, even if they do none of the above, Apple needs to make a public statement outlining what they're doing *in detail* (or at least as much detail as is reasonable), why they're doing it, and what they expect to come out of it. Assuming what I'm suggesting is the right thing to do, they should do all of this as soon as possible. And if I'm wrong, I'd like to hear other people's ideas about what should happen. /Coach
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Message-ID: <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 13:19:36 GMT robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) wrote: > >Hi, > >I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for >strdup() is missing on my system. > >Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a >full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? Why not just download it from: ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next/PGP/ Yours, -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, Den Haag/The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/prive/wierda/ The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.
From: Konstantin Wiesel <kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 16:18:13 +0000 Organization: RHRZ - University of Bonn (Germany) Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970903161349.4695D-100000@ikarus.jura.uni-bonn.de> References: <5uf4th$ijo$1@news.osn.de> <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <EFxp0o.2FG@AWT.NL> On Wed, 3 Sep 1997, Gerben Wierda wrote: > robert@next.amistep.osn.de (Robert Hofmann) wrote: > > > >Hi, > > > >I've just tried to compile pgp 2.6.3, but it seems that an include for > >strdup() is missing on my system. > > > >Well, I am not a very good c-coder, so maybe someone can send me a > >full-working (compiled) version of pgp for NeXTSTEP-Intel? > Das Thema gab es schon einmal hier, damals loeste jemand das Problem indem er "-d strdup=NXCopyBuffer" als zusaetzlichen compile Parameter angab. ueber Die Definition habe ich jetzt aus dem Gedaechtnis, das sollte man also in der Developer Doku nochmal nachschauen, jedenfalls hat das bei mir ebenfalls geklappt. Regards Konstantin Wiesel Email:kwiesel@mailhost.jura.uni-bonn.de
From: "Zam Syed" <zsyed@globalnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ntp on NS 3.3 Date: 3 Sep 1997 20:19:12 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb8a6$c9b697c0$155f7ec2@charlie-dont-su> Are there known bugs with ntp on NS 3.3?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.bsd.bsdi.misc,comp.uix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.misc,comp.unix.bsd.netbsd.misc From: Brian Edmonds <edmonds@cs.ubc.ca> Sender: "\"alyosha\"" <alyosha@tin.it> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 20:54:07 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.BE.340B5BEC.1FD4@tin.it> Subject: cmsg cancel <340B5BEC.1FD4@tin.it> Control: cancel <340B5BEC.1FD4@tin.it> Make.Money.Fast posting. BI perpetually over 20... Cancelled by Brian Edmonds <edmonds@cs.ubc.ca>. Original Subject: > $$$THIS IS NOT A SCAMM JUST READ$$$
From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiler Date: 4 Sep 1997 06:24:40 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <5ulk78$jh9@pith.uoregon.edu> References: <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> <5uee1l$o5n$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-User: sharding Matthew Seaman (Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk) wrote: > > However: you're a student. You can get the User+Developer distribution for > something like $300 --- what would cost over $5000 if you bought it at list > price. You can get any version for that same price, so you could grab the > latest OS4.2 release if you wanted to. Does anyone know if Apple's Prelude to Rhapsody would work, or is that Intel only? sean
From: oloft@hegel1.cs.chalmers.se.cs.chalmers.se (Olof Torgersson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: teTex and TexView Date: 4 Sep 1997 09:44:29 GMT Organization: Chalmers University of Technology Message-ID: <5ulvtt$jd4$1@nyheter.chalmers.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi I installed teTex on my Intel running OpenStep 4.0. However texView displays nothing but garbage. Is there a fix for this problem? Olof Torgersson --- Olof Torgersson oloft@cs.chalmers.se Department of Computing Science +46 31 772 54 06 Göteborg University & Chalmers University of Technology S-412 96 GÖTEBORG, SWEDEN
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiler Date: 4 Sep 1997 11:01:42 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5um4em$j5f$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> <5uee1l$o5n$3@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> <5ulk78$jh9@pith.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu In <5ulk78$jh9@pith.uoregon.edu> Sean Harding wrote: > Matthew Seaman (Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk) wrote: > > > > However: you're a student. You can get the User+Developer distribution for > > something like $300 --- what would cost over $5000 if you bought it at list > > price. You can get any version for that same price, so you could grab the > > latest OS4.2 release if you wanted to. > > Does anyone know if Apple's Prelude to Rhapsody would work, or is that Intel > only? Prelude to Rhapsody is triple-fat: m68k (Original Black next hardware), i386 and sparc. Works a treat on Black. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT accessoires Date: 4 Sep 1997 10:14:22 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5um1lu$s0h@hagen.amg.de> Hi there, does anyone know where I can get NeXT accessoires like - NeXT mouspads - pencils - T-Shirts - buttons - stickers - posters - etc. In the Faq there is Hermann Marketing mentioned, but they don't sell NeXT stuff any more. Thanks. Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de (Gregor Hoffleit) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: teTex and TexView Date: 4 Sep 1997 12:25:14 GMT Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany) Message-ID: <5um9ba$k6p$1@news.belwue.de> References: <5ulvtt$jd4$1@nyheter.chalmers.se> Olof Torgersson (oloft@hegel1.cs.chalmers.se.cs.chalmers.se) wrote: : Hi : I installed teTex on my Intel running OpenStep 4.0. : However texView displays nothing but garbage. : Is there a fix for this problem? Are you using the TeXview-kp patched for teTeX (have a look into the Info Panel if you don't know the version) ? There's a page dedicated to teTeX for NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP: http://www.mathi.uni-heidelberg.de/~flight/stepTeX/ Hope this helps, Gregor -- | Gregor Hoffleit Mathematisches Institut, Uni HD | | flight@mathi.uni-heidelberg.de INF 288, 69120 Heidelberg, Germany | | (NeXTmail, MIME) (49)6221 54-5771 fax 54-8312 | | "We will make windows invisible" |
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From: kellyp@v-wave.com (Kelly Peterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is there a DHCP client for NS 3.2? Date: Fri, 05 Sep 1997 01:52:16 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (V-WAVE) Message-ID: <5unoj0$hh91@crash.videotron.ab.ca> I have a cable modem and would like to use DHCP with it. Are there any clients available for NS 3.2?
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody web-board written in Korean Date: 5 Sep 1997 14:27:55 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5up4tb$oss$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/ http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa http://bbs.para.co.kr/~ppai/ http://bbs.para.co.kr/~ppai/qa2 The Web sites contains 4,000 articles about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody! You can get following all info written in Korean. NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody and Korean Languge Kit. Graphics, Internet, Business, Commuications, Tools, Network, Utilities, Music, Mathematics about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, and Rhapsody! Thanks, younghoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) ppai@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail OK) Fax: +82-(32)-817-8965 VOICE:+82-(32)-889-0151, +82-(11)-275-0177
From: wasfy@pantheon.yale.edu (Michael W Ibrahim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Laser Printer Shadows Date: 5 Sep 1997 14:48:30 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <5up63u$b1d$3@news.ycc.yale.edu> Hi, My NeXT laser printer puts rather heavy shadows (reprints the page slightly lighter) about half way down the page. As I understand it this means some type of scrubber which is supposed to clean the printer barrel is not functioning. Since, no one officially services this printer---and if I brought it in they would probably just be tinkering as much as myself---is this something I could try to fix myself (I'm relatively handy with electronics). Any advice? I don't suppose that this is a standard problem which any shop which services laser printers could fix. If I do try to mess with it myself is there anything I should watch out for? Anyone know where I can get the replacement part if I need one? Thanks, Michael Ibrahim wasfy@minerva.cis.yale.edu
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is there a DHCP client for NS 3.2? Date: 5 Sep 1997 16:19:27 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5upbef$23s$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5unoj0$hh91@crash.videotron.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: kellyp@v-wave.com In <5unoj0$hh91@crash.videotron.ab.ca> Kelly Peterson wrote: > I have a cable modem and would like to use DHCP with it. Are there any > clients available for NS 3.2? There are none I am aware of for NS or OS. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
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From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Rendition video driver Date: Fri, 5 Sep 1997 21:37:08 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <199709052137086355907@macip-ara-10.apple.com> I am looking for a way to use my Integraph 3D Video card (Rendition) with Nextstep 4.x on a PC. Does anyone know of a driver or some low resolution compatible mode I could use? Eddy Cue cue@dnai.com
From: ekumli@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (Ely Ritter Kumli) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help w/ethernet and pentium Date: 6 Sep 1997 00:41:54 -0700 Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <5ur1g2$kam@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu> I have a NeXTStation 040 mono and a pentium pci w/nt4.0 and i would like to network them together. The pentium is all scsi. I would like a pci ethernet card and nfs disk sharing. My pentium has dialup internet access, and i would like the network to allow the NeXT web/ftp/telnet aility. I have been searching for info to no avail. if anyone can reccomend a card for the pentium and software to allow this, i would be very gratefull. Thank you very much. Ely -- - I know you think you understood what you thought you read, but I'm not sure you understand that what you read is not what I meant. ---ekumli@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu-----me-325@stn14.me.calpoly.edu---
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From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 6 Sep 1997 20:57:12 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5usg38$guj$2@news.platinum.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <tj-2908971259280001@i525.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-2908971259280001@i525.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > Thanks Timothy, > > Your comments were much more professional than the first post by the other > person. Which was, in it's entirety: > > Better yet, don't advertise in inappropriate newsgroups on Usenet. Pretty professional, I thought. Watson: "For the record, how many windows are there?" Actor hired to bring Sherlock Holmes to life: "I haven't the foggiest." /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 6 Sep 1997 20:52:47 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5usfqv$guj$1@news.platinum.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > Your points are well taken... > > Back then I was posting in ALL groups and VERY frequently. Since that > time, I dropped back considerably. By dropping back as much as I thought I > did, I thought all was well and had no other posts like yours. A simple, > "hey, please keep the posts down or something like that" would have been a > better approach. > > I do not believe I have over used any next newsgroup. Not every person > subscribes to every group so that is why I switch to other groups. Thomas, please remember that people don't subscribe to announce groups, BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO READ ANNOUNCEMENTS, OF ANY KIND, EVER. That's why these groups have names and topics. A single SPAM or a single advertisement posted to the wrong group is TOO MUCH. Please stop posting announcements to non-announcement groups. And please stop trying to defend your repeated offenses in this area, because you are clearly wrong and there is no room for debate on that point. It is inappropriate to post direct solicitations, especially for money, like yours, to discussion groups. When folks do that, it makes other folks do things like add the offender to a killfile, or after repeated offenses, boycott the offender's web site. > Normally, from the time I post a message in the Announce group, when > should it show up. I had tried a couple times to the Announce group and > after a while, opted to do the other groups because I felt my messages > were not getting to that group or being ignored somehow. > If you can shed some light on this, I am more than happy to post where > posts should go. But when people make remarks like yours, which was not > constructive, it gets us both no where. I myself checked out your web site once or twice, perhaps I can shed some light. I'm excited to see renewed interest in OS alternatives, and happy to see you trying to make a difference. It's very cool that you're trying to start a new magazine/website that focuses on the cool cutting-edge stuff, rather than the boring stuff that almost everyone else does. In that space, however, there are many fewer people interested in the topic. Furthermore, your site does seem to have generally poor response time. These factors probably contribute to the low traffic that I presume leads you to believe that your announcements are being "ignored". Also, I think the production quality of your site is fairly low. You're just getting started, though, so you'll get better, I'm sure. Some design problems are subtle, so to help you get past that quickly, I'm going to be blunt. I want you to succeed, and you need some harsh criticism, I suspect, to drive you to the next level. If I make you mad enough to fix the problems, you'll be better off -- even if you come out of the experience thinking I'm a jerk. Think of this as a "Tough Love" usenet post. ;-P I'd like to start by saying that you've got potential here. You're "@" logo is very, very stylish. Where did you get it? What you're doing could turn into something cool and fun for you, and I hope you keep at it. The "NeXTish" news section contains a few bits that were news to me today, and I follow this stuff pretty closely. That was good. However, the presentation really needs help, and you could do better with the writing. For example, this doesn't look very professional: " I saw an message in the comp.sys.next newsgroup today of a gentleman that found some interesting items in old issues of NeXTworld magazine" Get rid of the "I saw" totally, and rewrite this in some other way. You should also search DejaNews and provide a URL to the post in question. The three-times-removed nature of your mention of a usenet post is just about useless, by itself, but coupled with a link to the original source, it could become a routinely powerful mechanism for commentary. This is what makes the web useful -- commentary can be traced to original source material. You're robbing yourself of your own power by failing to take advantage of this. OK, let's get started with the layout. Take a look at this page... Go here: http://www.oro.net/~tj/ and select where it's @... Frames... Look at the navigation frame on the left. Using the NeXTmail ICON for your "Send @Society Email" icon is a bit of a stretch. Using the other logos from OS vendors probably falls within "acceptable use", though normally those logos are only used to link to the actual vendor's site. Then the labels, "Our NeXT Coverage", "Our Be Coverage". Are kind of amateurish and juvenile, they could certainly be more stylish. How about "Jacked In @ NeXT," etc. I would go with the simpler "@NeXT", "@Be", etc. Fits with your motif: kinda cocky, like Wired, only without the SOHO attitude of uber-cocky-in-denial. Your only slightly cocky, and you're not in denial. That's refreshing, and I like it. I do like your consistent use of the Red&Blue in "BeOS" even in your text. That's a nice nod to the only design style that they have shown so far, and perhaps they'll be encouraged to show a little more. Also, I've always been irritated at people who refused to spell "NeXT" correctly, and insisted on printing "Next Computer". "NeXT" was a computer company, while "Next" is the beginning of an ad-speak sentence, "Next time on our show...". If it wasn't for the lime green bg, you'd be showing a little class here, nodding to the BeOS logo each time it's in your text. I like that. Now, get rid of the bright yellow frame on the right. Just get rid of it. Why on earth would you use red text on a yellow frame? And surely you can come up with a better design than two navigation frames, one on each side? At a minimum, pitch the yellow -- especially when some of your art has the nice red/black thing going. Find a color scheme and stick with it for a while. Look good. And why on earth are the "Hot Links" all the way at the bottom of the frame, where the average browser requires scrolling the frame to even see it? The flaming hot dogs are cool, though. keep that. The contact information (your address) takes up WAY too much space. Why the blank lines between each line of the address? The background gif of Jobs speaking is pretty lame. To properly use that picture as a background, size it so that one jobs fills the whole frame, and the user isn't quite sure what it is when they first see it. Better yet, Find something else altogether. Now pull up "Our NeXT Coverage". You spelled NeXT correctly, and get points for that. However, when you pull up the page, the default bg color is a horrid lime green. Set all your default bg colors to black or white (not both, pick one and stick with it.) while you're at it, develop a consistent theme for your entire site -- for example, all VLINKs should be the same color, everywhere, unless you have a special page that needs them to be different for a very, very good reason -- like an important bg gif that renders the links invisible otherwise. COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR You've got a huge problem with color. You don't have an eye for what works and what doesn't. Get some feedback from somebody who dresses you in the morning. Also, check out this handy sight... http://dorado.crpht.lu/~carrasco/color/ OK, we're also back to the replicating gif background problem. Fix that everywhere. I want to see ONE NeXTstation, not a half dozen little ones. It looks like some high school kids "my favorite computer home page". Tacky. Cutting the NeXT folder icon is tacky, too, especially with the lime-green boarder from your background. Set the bg to black is my vote -- on every page you have. I don't know where you got the "building blocks" icon at the bottom of the page, but it is VERY VERY sharp. If it's yours, can I borrow it? the "HOME" button at the bottom doesn't go well with the rest of the art on the page, at all. Make a nice button that matches the building blocks motif, perhaps. OK, I drilled down into the news folder. LIME GREEN AGAIN. eeeeeeek! With RED text on it. Have you no pride at all? Oh, and the yellow text on lime green is really brilliant. That was a really bad choice. In general, your site looks like you looked at other mac magazines for inspiration. Don't. Most of them display no sense of style. Check out Wired for another example of what NOT to do. Too many colors, too many fOnTsMixEDINTHEsouPaNDTOmanYsiZes (although it's not as bad as it used to be... probably too much work to maintain that kind of thing over time.) Other factors may contribute, too. I myself tend to limit my surfing to hunts for specific information, and a <very> small group of sites that I hit regularly. Your site is interesting, but not interesting enough <to me> to cause me to surf it even weekly -- only 2-3 sites fall into that category. I think many people do the same. That means that it's going to be difficult for you to break into this market, since there are only a few thousand regular surfers interested in this stuff right now, as far as I can tell (maybe 10k, at most, with many not surfing more than once a week). > So out of this, I will become more professional if you would do the same. > Let me know if you think something is wrong before posting a note like > that. I am more than happy to do the right thing. Thomas, you are very clear wrong, and you have ticked a few people off by persisting to abuse this quite little newsgroup. Please cease and desist. You are the offender here, not the offended. Now, stop posting announcements to discussion groups, and get to work! You've got lots to do, but you're well on your way to having a cool site. You should consider doing a search at Webcrawler.com, etc., for "kernel" and providing links to other alternative OS flavors, as well. FreeBSD, Linux, GnuStep.org, Mach kernel research, etc. may be interesting to folks who are into BeOS and Rhapsody. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 6 Sep 1997 21:08:26 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5usgoa$haa$1@news.platinum.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I have always thought that SPAM was when messages were left in newsgroups > that had nothing to do with that group. In my case, I have left NeXT > messages in NeXT groups. Is that considered Spamming?? > > Now that I better understand cross posting, I think I fall in that > category, not spamming. Bzzzzt! Wrong again! Sorry, and thank you for playing, "THIS is YOUR net." Buy a copy of the jargon file in print and read it cover to cover. It's sold under the title, "The New Hacker's Dictionary", and it's a hoot. ;-> http://beast.cc.emory.edu/Jargon30/JARGON_S/SPAM.HTML spam [from the _MUD_ community] vt. 1. To crash a program by overrunning a fixed-size buffer with excessively large input data. See also _buffer overflow_, _overrun screw_, _smash the stack_. 2. To cause a newsgroup to be flooded with irrelevant or inappropriate messages. You can spam a newsgroup with as little as one well- (or ill-) planned message (e.g. asking "What do you think of abortion?" on soc. women). This is often done with _cross-post_ing (e.g. any message which is cross posted to alt.rush-limbaugh and alt.politics.homosexuality will almost inevitabl y spam both groups). Now, quit defending your error, and get back to work making your site better! You are only digger your grave deeper at this point. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 6 Sep 1997 21:19:48 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5ushdk$hh0$1@news.platinum.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> <5u9go9$3ug$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> <tj-3008971515070001@i534.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-3008971515070001@i534.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I guess evryone has a different idea of the word... Sometimes it gets > hard to tell. Our newsletter covers advocacy issues, announcements, > hardware, software,marketplace, misc, etc.... That is why I had posted to > those various groups. NO, NO, NO! You are wrong! If you understood that, then you should also see the error in your claim. Words do not mean something different to everyone who uses them. We agree on meanings for words so that we can communicate. Yes, sometimes words may have a subtle flavor that makes them behave differently for some people, in general, the bulk of the word's meaning is preserved. A good example of this is the word "wench" which some people find offensive, and other find no offense in whatsoever. Yet the word means roughly the same thing to various people on both sides of this fence. Note also that we agree on meta-rules for communication, too, just vocabulary meaning. Grammar and syntax, and rules for posting to usenet are all examples of these higher level rules which facilitate communication. :-/ You are clearly in dire need of a remedial hacker education. Obviously you have somehow stumbled into a usenet group without having any idea where you are. Please read, and understand, the following texts, which will help you mature into the cool hacker that you want to be: The New Hacker's Dictionary Godel, Escher, Bach, The Eternal Golden Braid (Douglas Hofstadter) The Selfish Gene (Richard Dawkins) Do not skip a single page. Re-read them every chance you get. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. | | |
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Date: 7 Sep 1997 03:52:35 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8835873604833@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: "Michael Warnock" <skill@execpc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help with USR 56k PnP on OS4.2 Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 09:37:30 -0500 Organization: Exec-PC BBS Internet - Milwaukee, WI Message-ID: <5utsin$2df@newsops.execpc.com> Ok- the modem is plug and play and has no overide jumpers like previous sportsters. In verbose mode i can see the kernel find it along with my awe64 (which works) and i can do a pnpdump on eisa and look at all the fun junk- now from the other end I have an isa serial port driver installed with the correct irq and io (7 and 3e8) but in bootup the serial driver says that the chip is unknown (same place that my mouse's serial port says its irq and stuff) and that is where i am- I have searched all the ftp and web sites for info and found ZIP almost nothing on modems at all and the stuff there was basically assumed it was already being found. I am posting this message with IE on 95 and I am getting tired of rebooting to do so:) Michael Warnock -- Skill Labs
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5uuocj$hha@winter.news.erols.com> Control: cancel <5uuocj$hha@winter.news.erols.com> Date: 07 Sep 1997 17:30:56 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5uuocj$hha@winter.news.erols.com> Sender: <usfs1@power-agents.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Nobert Pirzkal <npirzkal@eso.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: no login window Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 18:10:48 +0200 Organization: ESO Message-ID: <3412D208.FED77489@eso.org> References: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Beigel wrote: > > I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. > The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come > up with a login window? > > -- > Richard Beigel telephone: (301)405-2764 > Dept. of Computer Science email: beigel@cs.umd.edu > University of Maryland fax: (301)405-6707 > College Park, MD 20742-3251 office: A. V. Williams Bdg. #3171 Get rid of the mee account, give a password to the root account. Something like that... (using UserManager) -- --------------------------------------------------------- Norbert Pirzkal E-mail: npirzkal@eso.org European Southern Observatory Karl-Schwarzschild-Strasse 2 D-85748 Garching bei Muenchen, Germany ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Sun, 07 Sep 1997 16:02:16 -0500 Organization: CyberNews Network Message-ID: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone help me? I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color station). I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying gcc -g -I../ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -c regexp.c In file included from regexp.c:26: /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:234: parse error before '*' /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:272: parse error before '*' /NextDeveloper/Headers/ansi/stdio.h:234: warning: data definition has no type or storage class *** Exit 1 Stop Does anyone know what I need to do or have binaries already built? thanks, Dan -- Daniel A. Nichols [O-] Voice: (972) 790-7255 2905 Lawrence St. Fax: (972) 790-2950 Irving TX 75061-6645 E-Mail: dan@kypris.com LP 40,45,64 NeXTMail Welcome! http://www.kypris.com
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Sun, 7 Sep 1997 18:37:33 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dan Nichols <dan@kypris.com> In-Reply-To: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Dan Nichols wrote: > Can anyone help me? > I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color > station). > > I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. > It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to > determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and > hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". > > I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should > run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 > target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the > same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and > it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying > I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't be easy/possible. I tried also version 1.7 on ftp.peak.org - seems to compile well on NS 3.3 on Intel. Black should work too. Good luck. Rudy. P.S.: If you use the version 1.7, could you share your experience with the DBKit and EOF adapters that are on the net as well? If you use them, that is. I didn't have much luck. Thanks, Rudy.
From: soucross@Glue.umd.edu (Bradley R. Bebee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: load failed?? Date: 8 Sep 1997 06:19:53 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <5v05e9$850$1@hecate.umd.edu> I recently was buying some used computer parts and purchased an old next machine. Very slow, running NextStep 2.4. I have little experience with Next Machines. Upon bootup I get the message commands section > 2048 load failed I tried using a 3.3 boot disk but the same message occurred. Has anyone encountered this problem? Thanks in Advance, Brad
From: fox@jeans.fokus.gmd.de (Oliver Fox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: list of website that use webobjects Date: 8 Sep 1997 13:06:13 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <5v0t85$2d9@stern.fokus.gmd.de> Hi Did anyone have a list of companys --or better: web-sites-- that use WebObjects ? thank you -- - Oliver fox@fokus.gmd.de ___________________________________________________________
From: Jack Nutting <jnutting@iaxs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The Problem With NS/OS Intel Internal Modems Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 16:29:56 -0500 Organization: Infinity AccessNET Message-ID: <34146E54.2FC32D33@iaxs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit People of Earth, I'm trying to make the generic-cheapo-internal-modem-that-came-with- my-machine work with OpenStep 4.1, and having limited success. In trying to solve this problem, I've been digging through DejaNews, and have found *lots* of people posting the same problem, but have never seen a real solution. The following is a typical symptom of the NS/OS Internal Modem Problem: Apr 9 14:55:01 localhost mach: ISASerialPort1: Unable to determine chip type at I/O base 0x2f8 The general problem I've seen described, and from which I'm suffering as well, is that you have your internal modem all set up as com2, irq 3, address 0x2f8, working perfectly well with Win95 and everything else you throw at it. You've got two instances of the ISA Serial Driver set up, and the first one works fine for com1, but the second one, pointing at the modem, chokes as above. The Configure.app help files say that this means the driver can't recognize the UART at the specified address. So I guess I should infer that the UART in the modem I've got, as well as those in the modems all these other folks have, is somehow "nonstandard". The problem I have with this hypothesis is that it seems unlikely to me that the broad range of modems I've seen mentioned, ranging from USR down to generic equivalents, are all using "nonstandard" UARTs. In fact, some posters with this error even said that their modem documentation claimed to have the "standard 16550". So what gives? My hunch is that there is a tiny oversight in the ISA Serial Driver that doesn't recognize some slight variation in the UART included with a few types of modems, and chokes on those. I've checked NextAnswers to see if there's an updated driver, but there doesn't seem to be any. If anybody has any sort of solution to this problem, please do share it. -- Jack Nutting jnutting@iaxs.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cole@unx.sas.com (Tom Cole) Subject: How to install NextStep 4.2 on Virtual PC? Sender: news@unx.sas.com (Noter of Newsworthy Events) Message-ID: <cole-ya023180000809971121370001@newshost.unx.sas.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 15:21:37 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Keywords: virtualpc connectix installation prelude rhapsody Okay, I realize this is borderline perverse, but I really need to get up to speed on OpenStep and the like, and I don't have any Intel hardware lying around. I do have a perfectly good Mac, however, and a copy of Virtual PC. Does anyone have a clue where I would need to go to find a working set of drivers to boot the "Prelude to Rhapsody" CDROMS (which as far as I can tell is OpenStep 4.2)? The VirtualPC system says it doesn't do SCSI, only (E)IDE and ATAPI. The floppies that come with P2R include a couple of possible drivers, but no dice -- the installer can see the hard disk but not the CDROM (which I've specified as being on the primary IDE controller in VirtualPC). And, given that this is my first tangle with OpenStep, if there is a much better newsgroup to post this, please let me know -- it's not clear if it's a hardware or software problem to me. BTW, Connectix has (so far) not answered my question on this issue (they claim to have gotten OpenStep to run) but I don't know if that's just a timing issue or if they really can't answer the question. -- Tom Cole, SAS Insitute Inc. cole@unx.sas.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cole@unx.sas.com (Tom Cole) Subject: Re: How to install NextStep 4.2 on Virtual PC? (better question?) Sender: news@unx.sas.com (Noter of Newsworthy Events) Message-ID: <cole-ya023180000909970015510001@newshost.unx.sas.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 1997 04:15:51 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 References: <cole-ya023180000809971121370001@newshost.unx.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: SAS Institute Inc. In article <cole-ya023180000809971121370001@newshost.unx.sas.com>, cole@unx.sas.com (Tom Cole [me]) wrote: > Okay, I realize this is borderline perverse,... [snip] > The VirtualPC system says it doesn't do SCSI, only (E)IDE and ATAPI. The > floppies that come with P2R include a couple of possible drivers, but no > dice -- the installer can see the hard disk but not the CDROM (which I've > specified as being on the primary IDE controller in VirtualPC). > Well, I've gotten a few replies, and learned enough to maybe ask a better question. I found the (I hope) right drivers, and was successfully able to get the installer/booter to recognize both the hard disk volume and the CDROM device. Now, it throws up the console window, searches for devices, puts out the odd message about a "preposterous real time clock value", says it's enabling power management software, and then locks up. I'm led to believe that the next step would be a file system check or something, but no further action -- VirtualPC has to be reset at this point. Does anyone have any clues about how I might debug this problem? Thanks in advance, and please e-email any replies since I can't read news very often... -- Tom Cole, SAS Insitute Inc. cole@unx.sas.com
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:16:46 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-0909971420580001@i507.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> <5usfqv$guj$1@news.platinum.com> Wow!!! Thanks for taking the time to at least give me your thoughts on the subject. I do understand where you are coming from on the topic. Although I have found the errors in my ways on the posting issue, there were more emailers sending notes my way that they were pleased how I was discussing the matter rather than jumping down someones throat. As I mentioned, I understand what I had done but at the same time, I will always believe there is a better way to deal with the issue rather than the approach that was used. It is old news and I am on my way to improve my net manners. It seems you have a ton of web page and design background. Do you offer a web page of your own that you have designed that I and other users can check out. Everyone has different design ideas and it is great to see what they do. Please let me know your URL and I will get more professional ideas that way. Thanks Tom In article <5usfqv$guj$1@news.platinum.com>, longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: > In <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > > Your points are well taken... > > > > Back then I was posting in ALL groups and VERY frequently. Since that > > time, I dropped back considerably. By dropping back as much as I thought I > > did, I thought all was well and had no other posts like yours. A simple, > > "hey, please keep the posts down or something like that" would have been a > > better approach. > > > > I do not believe I have over used any next newsgroup. Not every person > > subscribes to every group so that is why I switch to other groups. > > Thomas, please remember that people don't subscribe to announce groups, > BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO READ ANNOUNCEMENTS, OF ANY KIND, EVER. That's why > these groups have names and topics. A single SPAM or a single advertisement > posted to the wrong group is TOO MUCH. > > Please stop posting announcements to non-announcement groups. And please > stop trying to defend your repeated offenses in this area, because you are > clearly wrong and there is no room for debate on that point. It is > inappropriate to post direct solicitations, especially for money, like yours, > to discussion groups. When folks do that, it makes other folks do things > like add the offender to a killfile, or after repeated offenses, boycott the > offender's web site. > > > Normally, from the time I post a message in the Announce group, when > > should it show up. I had tried a couple times to the Announce group and > > after a while, opted to do the other groups because I felt my messages > > were not getting to that group or being ignored somehow. > > If you can shed some light on this, I am more than happy to post where > > posts should go. But when people make remarks like yours, which was not > > constructive, it gets us both no where. > > I myself checked out your web site once or twice, perhaps I can shed some > light. > > I'm excited to see renewed interest in OS alternatives, and happy to see you > trying to make a difference. It's very cool that you're trying to start a > new magazine/website that focuses on the cool cutting-edge stuff, rather than > the boring stuff that almost everyone else does. In that space, however, > there are many fewer people interested in the topic. Furthermore, your site > does seem to have generally poor response time. These factors probably > contribute to the low traffic that I presume leads you to believe that your > announcements are being "ignored". > > Also, I think the production quality of your site is fairly low. You're just > getting started, though, so you'll get better, I'm sure. Some design > problems are subtle, so to help you get past that quickly, I'm going to be > blunt. I want you to succeed, and you need some harsh criticism, I suspect, > to drive you to the next level. If I make you mad enough to fix the > problems, you'll be better off -- even if you come out of the experience > thinking I'm a jerk. Think of this as a "Tough Love" usenet post. > > ;-P > > I'd like to start by saying that you've got potential here. You're "@" logo > is very, very stylish. Where did you get it? What you're doing could turn > into something cool and fun for you, and I hope you keep at it. The > "NeXTish" news section contains a few bits that were news to me today, and I > follow this stuff pretty closely. That was good. However, the presentation > really needs help, and you could do better with the writing. > > For example, this doesn't look very professional: > " I saw an message in the comp.sys.next newsgroup > today of a gentleman that found some interesting > items in old issues of NeXTworld magazine" > > Get rid of the "I saw" totally, and rewrite this in some other way. You > should also search DejaNews and provide a URL to the post in question. The > three-times-removed nature of your mention of a usenet post is just about > useless, by itself, but coupled with a link to the original source, it could > become a routinely powerful mechanism for commentary. This is what makes the > web useful -- commentary can be traced to original source material. You're > robbing yourself of your own power by failing to take advantage of this. > > > OK, let's get started with the layout. Take a look at this page... > Go here: http://www.oro.net/~tj/ and select where it's @... Frames... > > Look at the navigation frame on the left. Using the NeXTmail ICON for your > "Send @Society Email" icon is a bit of a stretch. Using the other logos from > OS vendors probably falls within "acceptable use", though normally those > logos are only used to link to the actual vendor's site. > > Then the labels, "Our NeXT Coverage", "Our Be Coverage". Are kind of > amateurish and juvenile, they could certainly be more stylish. How about > "Jacked In @ NeXT," etc. I would go with the simpler "@NeXT", "@Be", etc. > Fits with your motif: kinda cocky, like Wired, only without the SOHO attitude > of uber-cocky-in-denial. Your only slightly cocky, and you're not in denial. > That's refreshing, and I like it. > > I do like your consistent use of the Red&Blue in "BeOS" even in your text. > That's a nice nod to the only design style that they have shown so far, and > perhaps they'll be encouraged to show a little more. Also, I've always been > irritated at people who refused to spell "NeXT" correctly, and insisted on > printing "Next Computer". "NeXT" was a computer company, while "Next" is the > beginning of an ad-speak sentence, "Next time on our show...". If it wasn't > for the lime green bg, you'd be showing a little class here, nodding to the > BeOS logo each time it's in your text. I like that. > > Now, get rid of the bright yellow frame on the right. Just get rid of it. > Why on earth would you use red text on a yellow frame? And surely you can > come up with a better design than two navigation frames, one on each side? > At a minimum, pitch the yellow -- especially when some of your art has the > nice red/black thing going. Find a color scheme and stick with it for a > while. Look good. And why on earth are the "Hot Links" all the way at the > bottom of the frame, where the average browser requires scrolling the frame > to even see it? The flaming hot dogs are cool, though. keep that. The > contact information (your address) takes up WAY too much space. Why the > blank lines between each line of the address? > > The background gif of Jobs speaking is pretty lame. To properly use that > picture as a background, size it so that one jobs fills the whole frame, and > the user isn't quite sure what it is when they first see it. Better yet, > Find something else altogether. > > Now pull up "Our NeXT Coverage". You spelled NeXT correctly, and get points > for that. However, when you pull up the page, the default bg color is a > horrid lime green. Set all your default bg colors to black or white (not > both, pick one and stick with it.) while you're at it, develop a consistent > theme for your entire site -- for example, all VLINKs should be the same > color, everywhere, unless you have a special page that needs them to be > different for a very, very good reason -- like an important bg gif that > renders the links invisible otherwise. > > COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR > COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR > COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR COLOR > > You've got a huge problem with color. You don't have an eye for what works > and what doesn't. Get some feedback from somebody who dresses you in the > morning. Also, check out this handy sight... > > http://dorado.crpht.lu/~carrasco/color/ > > > OK, we're also back to the replicating gif background problem. Fix that > everywhere. I want to see ONE NeXTstation, not a half dozen little ones. It > looks like some high school kids "my favorite computer home page". Tacky. > > Cutting the NeXT folder icon is tacky, too, especially with the lime-green > boarder from your background. Set the bg to black is my vote -- on every > page you have. > > I don't know where you got the "building blocks" icon at the bottom of the > page, but it is VERY VERY sharp. If it's yours, can I borrow it? > > the "HOME" button at the bottom doesn't go well with the rest of the art on > the page, at all. Make a nice button that matches the building blocks motif, > perhaps. > > OK, I drilled down into the news folder. LIME GREEN AGAIN. eeeeeeek! With > RED text on it. Have you no pride at all? Oh, and the yellow text on lime > green is really brilliant. That was a really bad choice. > > In general, your site looks like you looked at other mac magazines for > inspiration. Don't. Most of them display no sense of style. Check out > Wired for another example of what NOT to do. Too many colors, too many > fOnTsMixEDINTHEsouPaNDTOmanYsiZes (although it's not as bad as it used to > be... probably too much work to maintain that kind of thing over time.) > > > > > Other factors may contribute, too. I myself tend to limit my surfing to > hunts for specific information, and a <very> small group of sites that I hit > regularly. Your site is interesting, but not interesting enough <to me> to > cause me to surf it even weekly -- only 2-3 sites fall into that category. I > think many people do the same. That means that it's going to be difficult > for you to break into this market, since there are only a few thousand > regular surfers interested in this stuff right now, as far as I can tell > (maybe 10k, at most, with many not surfing more than once a week). > > > > So out of this, I will become more professional if you would do the same. > > Let me know if you think something is wrong before posting a note like > > that. I am more than happy to do the right thing. > > Thomas, you are very clear wrong, and you have ticked a few people off by > persisting to abuse this quite little newsgroup. Please cease and desist. > You are the offender here, not the offended. > > Now, stop posting announcements to discussion groups, and get to work! > You've got lots to do, but you're well on your way to having a cool site. > > You should consider doing a search at Webcrawler.com, etc., for "kernel" and > providing links to other alternative OS flavors, as well. FreeBSD, Linux, > GnuStep.org, Mach kernel research, etc. may be interesting to folks who are > into BeOS and Rhapsody. > > /gary > - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - > Gary W. Longsine | This Space For Rent. > | > | > |
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5v4gpn$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5v4gpn$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 09 Sep 1997 21:58:16 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5v4gpn$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: JOHN EDMONDS<ANYWHERE@USA.COM> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP FDISK disaster!!!!!!!!!! Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:48:37 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcbd8c$67a88620$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> I was trying to load NextStep3.3 User in a free block on my 2.1G hard drive. The block was sandwiched between the primary DOS partition and the extended DOS partition. When prompted where to install NextStep, there was no option to leave the extended DOS partion alone and just load NS into the free space...it saw everything beyond the primary DOS partition as free space. Instead of just stopping there, i selected the option of leaving some of the "free"space as NextStep the rest for DOS......in the hope that the extended DOS partions might still be there after the install.....well I got cold feet and ditched the install, but when I came back out into the DOD/Windows95 world the extended partions were no longer receognized......ugh Are these partitions lost forever? Is there any way to recover them? I had backed up most of the files a few weeks ago, but a few important files were not. I have not reformatted those sectors of the drive or done anything else since......except look at them in Partition Magic, an interactive partitioning application in DOS. Can I use something from Norton Disk Doctor to find the beginning of my old partitions?...I had a lot af spare space between the original "free" space and my important DOD partitions...it was set aside as swap space for Windows 95. HELP!!!!!
From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "testing system..." then freeze Date: 10 Sep 1997 03:50:13 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <5v55dl$d29$1@pith.uoregon.edu> My NeXTStation that I ordered (Color, 32 MB RAM, 400MB HD, NS 3.3 User) just arrived, and here I am out of town...Anyway, one of my room mates tried to set it up and he says that it says "testing system..." and there's a NeXT logo and then it hangs...He says he thinks he heard some HD activity, but he can't be sure...He let it just sit for a long time to see if it was being slow, and it did nothing...Any ideas off the top of your head what might cause this? I'm hoping it's not a fatal hardware problem... Any help will be *greatly* appreciated. I'm hoping to have it up and running before I get home Thursday afternoon.. Sean
From: tyf@.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reading PostScript generated from NT Date: 9 Sep 1997 23:39:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5v5fa6$8i4@nntp02.primenet.com> Hi, I have been running into problem trying to read PostScript generated using the Microsoft supplied Apple LaserWriter driver on NT. NeXTSTEP complains of missing or invalid commands that the page after the first one won't display properly and won't print at all. I went to www.adobe.com and found a driver for the NeXT Printer, but it only runs on NT. Question : 1. Did Adobe writer its own PostScript drivers for NT? 2. Is there a known way to fix the bad PostScript from NT? Thanks. -- ________________ Tin-Yau Fung, tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu NeXTmail is best!
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:54 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5v69df$491@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> In article <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: > >Hello next-web afficionados, > > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:59 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> In article <5ucl5k$5g4$1@xeres.hsh.stusta.mhn.de> scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) wrote: > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: > >Hello next-web afficionados, > > "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> wrote: >Hello next-web afficionados, > > >I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with >Openstep for Mach 4.1. > The ending .b. indicates it's a binary and is of no further use. tar indicates 'TAR' archives and gz indicates 'GnuZIP. You can use gunzip and tar -x together or use gnutar -zxf <file> Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.hsh.stusta.mhn.de)
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP newbie Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:12:33 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Message-ID: <5v6a57$h7u@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <34099577.1282933@news.apk.net> <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> In article <5uge83$8j7$7@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > In <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > > On 08/31/97, Stuart Krivis wrote: In <5uep9j$oh5$1@news.istar.ca> Jean-Paul Samson wrote: > On 08/31/97, Stuart Krivis wrote: > >I just got OS 4.2 Mach for Intel and am having a rough time of it. > >I can't seem to get my soundcard to work. It's a SB 32PNP. Anyone > >have experience with these? > > See > > http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/FactBase.woa/4374 > 914481554563571123995859011611/TopicsPage.wo/18017676810611/1.1.5/-/di > gifix I tried, and was told ``Invalid context ID in URL'' WebObjects can make it hard to point others to URLs.... I had several Stepwise URLs in my bookmarks that were timed out when I went to use them later: Jean-Paul> Your .sig showed up twice. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: no login window Date: 8 Sep 1997 07:29:58 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5v09hm$8kp@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> <3412D208.FED77489@eso.org> >Richard Beigel wrote: >> >> I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. >> The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come >> up with a login window? give a password to me greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) SPAM NOT welcome!!!
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to install NextStep 4.2 on Virtual PC? Date: 9 Sep 1997 00:12:24 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5v2498$mf@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <cole-ya023180000809971121370001@newshost.unx.sas.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: cole@unx.sas.com In <cole-ya023180000809971121370001@newshost.unx.sas.com> Tom Cole wrote: > > Okay, I realize this is borderline perverse, but I really need to get up > to speed on OpenStep and the like, and I don't have any Intel hardware > lying around. I do have a perfectly good Mac, however, and a copy of > Virtual PC. Does anyone have a clue where I would need to go to find > a working set of drivers to boot the "Prelude to Rhapsody" CDROMS (which > as far as I can tell is OpenStep 4.2)? [snip] Try to wait for about two more weeks. Rhapsody Dev Release 1 is about due then .... ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6a51$ga3@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:12:27 GMT Distribution: inet ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:42:50 1997 Original subject was: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ?
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v69df$491@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v69df$491@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v69df$491@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:54 GMT Distribution: inet ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:42:41 1997 Original subject was: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ?
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v69dl$54v@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 13:59:59 GMT Distribution: inet ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:42:44 1997 Original subject was: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,de.comp.sys.next From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6a3f$fdt@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:11:38 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:47:16 1997 Original subject was: Re: S: PGP for NS 3.3 Intel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6a57$h7u@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6a57$h7u@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6a57$h7u@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:12:33 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:47:19 1997 Original subject was: Re: OPENSTEP newbie
From: chrick@aol.com (C H Rick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New NeXT person Date: 10 Sep 1997 12:24:49 GMT Message-ID: <19970910122401.IAA11475@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com SnewsLanguage: English Thinking about buying a NeXT color Station for fun. Many questions about modems, availble software etc. Mac user now. Where do I get info on maximizing a NeXT system in this day and age?? Thanks! Rick
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: help with msql on black hardware? Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:18:17 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970910141447.29605B-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <34131658.B0523E49@kypris.com> <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970907183344.6261A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > > > On Sun, 7 Sep 1997, Dan Nichols wrote: > > > Can anyone help me? > > I'm trying to install msql on NeXTSTEP 3.3 on black hardware(Turbo color > > station). > > > > I originally tried version msql-2.0-B7.1, obtained from Bond.edu.au. > > It failed in the setup. First it complained about not being able to > > determine my directory routines. I just picked one of the defaults and > > hoped, then it quit because I don't have "mmap". > > > > I then found version msql_1_0_5_1 on Peanuts. It's README says it should > > run right out of the box on NeXT and it does already have the NeXTOS3.3 > > target directory already built, but when I try setup, first I get the > > same complaint about directory routines, again, I just picked one, and > > it finished setup. BUT when I 'make all' it dies saying > > > > I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't > be easy/possible. > > I tried also version 1.7 on ftp.peak.org - seems to compile well on NS 3.3 > on Intel. Black should work too. > > Good luck. > > Rudy. > > P.S.: If you use the version 1.7, could you share your experience with the > DBKit and EOF adapters that are on the net as well? If you use them, that > is. I didn't have much luck. Thanks, Rudy. > > I am replying to my own message, since I got a response from Aleksey that I was asked to put on the usenet. In addition, there is one more person who sent me a patch to compile mSQL 2.0 on OS 4.2, so it should work on NS 3.3 (going to try that soon.) Thanks. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu -------------- included reply ---------- Hey, sorry I cannot post to usenet, so perhaps you could forward this message to the other guy as well. >I have failed to compile version 2.0 as well. And I suspect that it won't >be easy/possible. Well, I have "ported" (compiled) mSQL.2.0.rel to OpenStep Intel. I don't think there should be a problem with NeXT boxes, thought one need to do some tweaks in the target directory. Anyway, the source is available at http://dev.rkinc.com/~zander/Projects/projects.html It works fine for me. I know about just one problem (DATEs and TIMEs doesn't work 100%). Hope that would help, Aleksey
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: It's funny... Message-ID: <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 10 Sep 97 14:30:48 MDT Distribution: world MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii With all the questions I've seen posted recently about NS and black hardware, it almost seems as if there is more interest in the old Black hardware now than there was when it was being sold... Just an observation... edx@cc.usu.edu
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: It's funny... Date: 10 Sep 1997 23:33:02 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v7ane$rb3$1@news.seicom.net> References: <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: edx@cc.usu.edu In <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > With all the questions I've seen posted recently > about NS and black hardware, it almost seems as > if there is more interest in the old Black hardware > now than there was when it was being sold... > > Just an observation... See the crap that is sold today and you will understand our motives ;-) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Sherwood Glazier <sglazier@wlrk.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: It's funny... Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 19:25:35 -0400 Organization: Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz Message-ID: <34172C6F.9D@wlrk.com> References: <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > > With all the questions I've seen posted recently > about NS and black hardware, it almost seems as > if there is more interest in the old Black hardware > now than there was when it was being sold... > > Just an observation... > > edx@cc.usu.edu Maybe Apple should start painting all of their new Macs black. Who knows, it might improve sales. It certainly couldn't hurt. Sherwood Glazier sherwood@wlrk.com "Every morning get up and look through Forbe's list of the richest people in the world. If your name is not on it, go to work!"
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: It's funny... Date: 11 Sep 1997 01:36:05 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v7hu5$7jv$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: edx@cc.usu.edu In <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > > With all the questions I've seen posted recently > about NS and black hardware, it almost seems as > if there is more interest in the old Black hardware > now than there was when it was being sold... Well, more people can afford it now, for one thing... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: It's funny... Date: 11 Sep 1997 00:56:33 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Distribution: world Message-ID: <5v7fk1$32v$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> <5v7ane$rb3$1@news.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net In <5v7ane$rb3$1@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert wrote: > In <4xmPBE+hbnTV@cc.usu.edu> edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > > With all the questions I've seen posted recently > > about NS and black hardware, it almost seems as > > if there is more interest in the old Black hardware > > now than there was when it was being sold... > > > > Just an observation... > > See the crap that is sold today and you will understand our motives ;-) > Ditto! ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred Cows make the best hamburger" -- Mark Twain
From: 304837@bud.swin.edu.au (Greg Giannis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 040->060 Converter? Date: 11 Sep 1997 03:26:57 GMT Organization: Swinburne University of Technology Message-ID: <5v7oe1$6ol$1@lucy.cc.swin.edu.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Next users, I am looking for a piece of hardware made by a company called Interconnect Systems, Inc. This hardware enables users of the 68040 processor to be able to use a 68060. It is a simple socket converter with some voltage change and logic circuitry. The part number was: s68060-I-A. Does anyone know of these devices? Has anyone used one? Are they still available? How much? Please email me as I cannot check this newsgroup regularly. Thanks Greg
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New NeXT person Date: 11 Sep 1997 09:00:51 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5v8c03$vie@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <19970910122401.IAA11475@ladder02.news.aol.com> chrick@aol.com (C H Rick) wrote: >Thinking about buying a NeXT color Station for fun. >Many questions about modems, availble software etc. >Mac user now. >Where do I get info on maximizing a NeXT system in this day and age?? >Thanks! >Rick http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ there are a faq, the complete next-usenet-archive and documents there. greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) SPAM NOT welcome!!!
From: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT accessoires Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:30:00 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5v8roo$sjp$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <5um1lu$s0h@hagen.amg.de> Martin Mocker <m_mocker@amg.de.> wrote: : Hi there, : does anyone know where I can get NeXT accessoires like [snipped the list] : In the Faq there is Hermann Marketing mentioned, but they don't sell : NeXT stuff any more. : Martin Mocker Martin - This question has been asked a couple of times in the last few months, the only remaining items are available from other people. Several folks posted that they had NeXT stickers. I called Hermann Marketing (as you did) and no one there had ever heard of NeXT :-< -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New NeXT person Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:46:04 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v8sms$mnr$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19970910122401.IAA11475@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5v8c03$vie@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chrick@aol.com In <5v8c03$vie@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Sven Droll wrote: > > chrick@aol.com (C H Rick) wrote: > >Thinking about buying a NeXT color Station for fun. > >Many questions about modems, availble software etc. > >Mac user now. > >Where do I get info on maximizing a NeXT system in this day and age?? > >Thanks! > >Rick > > http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ > > there are a faq, the complete next-usenet-archive and documents there. A good place to start, indeed. There's also http://www.peak.org/next and http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ for software and information. Once you have decided to buy, checkout www.orb.com and www.deepspacetech.com, both are longtime NeXT hardware resellers. Feel free to drop me a line if I can be of any help (see below). TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: no login window Date: 11 Sep 1997 17:47:14 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EGB7By.ArE@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5ugfbe$1v6$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> <3412D208.FED77489@eso.org> <5v09hm$8kp@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: > >Richard Beigel wrote: > >> > >> I just installed an external hard disk and booted off of it. > >> The machine came up logged in as "me". How do it get it to come > >> up with a login window? > > give a password to me Nice try. You're not getting mine ;-) (Sorry. Couldn't resist...) --Tom.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 040->060 Converter? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EGCwxo.Atn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 18:34:36 GMT References: <5v7oe1$6ol$1@lucy.cc.swin.edu.au> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5v7oe1$6ol$1@lucy.cc.swin.edu.au>, Greg Giannis <304837@bud.swin.edu.au> wrote: >Hello Next users, >know of these devices? Has anyone used one? Are they still available? How >much? > Even if you can find one it's pretty certain that it won't work on black hardware. The '060 isn't completely supervisor-level compatible with the '040; modifications to NeXT's kernel would be necessary to make it work. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.announce,comp.sys.newton.marketplace,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.psion.announce,comp.sys.psion.apps,comp.sys.psion.comm,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.psion.programmer,comp.sys.psion.reviews,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.ridge,comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.announce,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.audio,comp.sys.sgi.bugs,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.stratus,comp.sys.sun.admin Subject: cmsg cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Control: cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Date: 12 Sep 1997 16:33:20 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Sender: Jimmy <jimmybob@profit.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Reading PostScript generated from NT Date: 10 Sep 1997 07:18:58 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5v5hl2$cuc$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5v5fa6$8i4@nntp02.primenet.com> tyf@.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) wrote: > 1. Did Adobe writer its own PostScript drivers for NT? > 2. Is there a known way to fix the bad PostScript from NT? 1. Yes, there are some "genuine Adobe" PostScript drivers for Windows on the Adobe web site. Sorry, I don't have the URL at hand. 2. In most cases, yes. You have to set some special options in the printer driver. These options have different names depending on what version of the driver or Windows NT you have. You should DISABLE: - sending Ctrl-D at the end of each print job - sending Ctrl-D at the beginning of each print job - the use of job control code sequences - optimization for speed You should ENABLE: - optimization for portability (in some drivers declared as "generate ADSC-compliant PostScript" or something similar) Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: JOHN EDMONDS<ANYWHERE@USA.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: $$$ PUT CASH IN YOUR POCKET $$$ Date: 9 Sep 1997 21:58:15 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <5v4gpn$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> YOU PROBABLY WON'T MAKE $50,000 OR $40,000 - BUT YOU CAN MAKE $30,000. I'VE DONE IT AND SO CAN YOU! IT'S EASY, AND ONLY YOU CAN SHAPE YOUR DESTINY DO IT TODAY! HERE'S HOW : Simply take a $5.00 bill and send it to each of the 5 people listed below. Do this first. Then, remove the name of the fifth person and replace the number one position with your name Then, simply mail this same letter to atleast 500 people. (of course, the more people you mail it to the more money you will make). Do you follow me so far? Imagine if only 10% of the people send you $5.00. You will be making well into the thousands. Just imagine if more than 10% send you $5.00???????? You need to mail a minimum of 500 copies of this letter either regular postal service or through a fast email service. We listed an email mailing service below that we found will only charge you 1 penny for each email they send for you. They do require a one time $20.00 set up fee to begin though. Remember, copy this letter EXACTLY as it is written, remove the name of the fifth person, and put your name in the numbe one slot. What this will do is make the number one person now become number 2 and the number 2 person now become number 3 and so on. LETS RECAP: 1) First thing you should do is send $5.00 to each of the people listed below . Do this now. 2) Now, copy this letter EXACTLY as it is written. The only change will be to permanently remove the name of the fifth person and replace the number one position with your name and mailing address. By doing this, you will move the number 1 person to the number 2 slot and move the number 2 person to the number 3 slot and move the number 3 person to the number 4 slot and move the number 4 person to the number 5 slot. 3) Now that you have done this, send no less than 500 copies of this letter to as many people as you can. The more copies you mail, the better the response and the more money you make. You can either send this letter to a mailing list via post office or you can send this letter through an email service. Do this right away 4) Now, sit back and wait for the money to come in. Suggested Email Service (They only charge .01/per email + one time $20 set up fee) MBE Email Services P.O. Box 552 Tate, GA 30177 They will send 1000 emails for only $10.00, or 2000 for $20.00 or 5000 for $50.00 and so on. You will need to include the fee + a one time $20 set up fee. Mail a copy of this ad and your money to the above address as soon as possible if you decide to send your letter by email. It is suggested that you send your letter email and regular mail to get the best results. THE FIVE PERSON LIST 1) MIKE ANDREWS 475 SKIDDER WAY JASPER, GA 30143 2) UNICOMM 104 NORTH MAIN STREET SUITE 1 JASPER, GA 30143 3) ANDREW BYRD P.O. BOX 552 TATE, GA 30177 4) JOHN EDMONDS P.O. BOX 132 BIRMINGHAM, AL 30456 5) BILL MYERS 154 LAKE DRIVE SALT LAKE CITY, UT 45634 * SEND EACH PERSON ABOVE A FIVE DOLLAR BILL TODAY - THEN, TOTALLY REMOVE THE NUMBER FIVE PERSON ANDMOVE EACH NAME DOWN PLACING YOUR NAME IN THE NUMBER ONE POSITION. GOOD LUCK -
From: "Lawson English" <english@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard Subject: What do Mac/NeXT/Rhapsody developers think about all this? Date: 12 Sep 1997 16:47:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <B03F27C6-1A3543@206.165.44.45> nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.primenet.com/comp.sys.mac.hypercard MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It's a good question, isn't it? To find out what Macintosh and NeXT hardware and software developers think (they may not know WHAT to think, BTW) about the issues that have popped up in the last week or two concerning clone-licensing, the new Apple-less IBM-Motorola initiatives concerning PowerPCs, etc., you should participate in/lurk-in the AIMED-talk mailing list. AIMED stands for Association of Independent Macintosh Engineers and Developers Subscription info is to be found below: Spread the word and feel free to participate yourself. Think of this as a town hall for Mac users and developers. ++++++++++++++++++ <http://www.aimed.org> ++++++++++++++ HOW DO I SUBSCRIBE TO AIMED-TALK? ------------------------------------- To subscribe to AIMED-TALK proceed as follows: Send E-mail to: <aimed-talk-request@aimed.org> with a blank subject line and the following command as the first (and only) line of the message body: SUBSCRIBE ++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------- As of 11 Sept 97, A.I.M. is now spelled "I.M." as in "I'm gone." ---------------------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8835873604833@digifix.com> Date: 14 Sep 1997 03:49:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <9488874209621@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 15 Sep 1997 07:05:37 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 28 Aug 97 11:21:42 In article <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: In article <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: The real question, methinks, is whether a Millenium-II is faster than the Millenium with these drivers, and how much faster. Anybody? Anybody? I really am interested in this, since I already have a Millenium, and am in need of a second video card. But I'm not going to pay an eighty dollar premium unless the Millenium II gets a better NXBench than the Millenium on the same hardware... So, on Sunday the CompUSA circular has a Millenium-II for $180, after $120 worth of rebates. Though I'm generally loath to go to their store, I took the chance, I bought the card. I turned down the extended warranty, even though the cashier made noises like he expected the card to break down ANY MINUTE NOW. [How can a company live with themselves. Either they're suckering you on that warranty, or they're selling you crap. I mean, if I'm buying a used 1978 Chevy Nova, that's one thing, but buying new? Sigh.] Installed the new driver. Installed the card. Was unable to get both a Millenium II _and_ an original Millenium working in the same system. Any ideas on that out there? Configure.app will let me install two instances, but Instance1.table never appears in the card's .config directory. Ran some benchmarks using NXBench2.2, on a PentiumPro166 with 128M of RAM, running NS3.3 and OS4.2/Mach. The prior versions I'm not positive on (I forgot to note them before installing the new version). I ran each trial three times, and here present the mean (ie, average) and median (ie, middle) results: NXFactor NXFactor System Driver Card mean median NS3.3 3.34 Mill 5.965 5.9935 NS3.3 3.36 Mill 6.089 6.0770 NS3.3 3.36 M-II 6.155 6.1660 OS4.2 4.00 Mill 5.158 5.2127 OS4.2 4.05 Mill 5.116 5.1538 OS4.2 4.05 M-II 5.210 5.2448 So, it appears that simply upgrading the driver may or may not speed up your original Millenium, but the Millenium-II _is_ somewhat faster. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be a hugely measurable amount faster. Indeed, my results are within the range of error, and I'm not about to go back and repeat the tests ten times per configuration just to double-check things ... Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 15 Sep 1997 12:36:45 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5vja4t$m1e$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: scott@doubleu.com In <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> Scott Hess wrote: > Installed the new driver. Installed the card. Was unable to get both > a Millenium II _and_ an original Millenium working in the same system. > Any ideas on that out there? Configure.app will let me install two > instances, but Instance1.table never appears in the card's .config > directory. Hmmm... To get a double headed system working with two original Matrox Millenia you have to switch off the VGA support on the second card. Unusually in these days of SOFTSET2.EXE this was done by a simple toggle switch on the card. Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: MARMIER Raphael <marmier4@hei.unige.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: HELP FDISK disaster!!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 15:35:18 +0200 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.970915153258.17593A-100000@hei.unige.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Patrick McGowan <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Hi > Are these partitions lost forever? Is there any way to recover them? I had > backed up most of the files a few weeks ago, but a few important files were > not. I have not reformatted those sectors of the drive or done anything > else since......except look at them in Partition Magic, an interactive > partitioning application in DOS. Can I use something from Norton Disk > Doctor to find the beginning of my old partitions?...I had a lot af spare > space between the original "free" space and my important DOD > partitions...it was set aside as swap space for Windows 95. > > HELP!!!!! If you can find a way to know the begin and end address of your extended partition, you can update the partition table with Norton Disk editor (be carefull with this tool!). This should work as I suppose only the partition table is damaged. Unfortunatly, I don't know the exact syntax... remember it is a Dos extended partition. If there was more damage (ex: to the file system), I think you may be able to repair it with a disk utility after you recover the partition. But before doing so, make absolutely sure you have the right coordinates for your partition! , unless you want to trash it for good :)) good luck cheers PS: This post rather belongs to comp.sys.next.sysadmin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Raphael Marmier --> marmier4@hei.unige.ch --> http://heiwww.unige.ch/~marmier4 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 15 Sep 1997 16:05:31 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Sep15115330@howard.doubleu.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 15 Sep 97 02:20:32 In article <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: Installed the new driver. Installed the card. Was unable to get both a Millenium II _and_ an original Millenium working in the same system. Any ideas on that out there? Configure.app will let me install two instances, but Instance1.table never appears in the card's .config directory. I received a couple suggestions relating to disabling VGA on the second card. Unfortunately, while this was on the mark, it didn't make it work. I'm embarassed I didn't remember this, but excuse myself by pointing out that I had no problems booting through the end of the VGA section of verbose booting, so I didn't suspect any problems... I always got the card in the lowest numbered slot (NS Location sense) as the VGA console. I've now disabled VGA on the Millenium, though. The second screen I get on my machine, the one that ends with "N for NeXTSTEP, D for DOS" or somesuch, displays the PCI info for the Millenium-II card but _not_ the Millenium. No idea if this is a problem, though, because both NeXTSTEP's and OpenStep's boot process detects both PCI devices right up front (in those first eight or ten lines of verbose boot). One hint came when I had both cards installed, but only the lowest-numbered (NeXT "Location" sense of lowest) configured. NeXTSTEP3.3 was unable to complete booting, it gave me a message about kernel conflicts of some sort (sorry, I didn't write them down, too big and hairy). OpenStep4.2 was able to complete booting, and used the configured card as its display, the other display remained blank. Configure.app under both NS3.3 and OS4.2 gives me an odd Instance0.table, and no Instance1.table for the driver. Contrary to one suggestion, my experience has always been that you need both to have two Instance tables for two cards. Instance0.table always seemed to end up with the info for the _secondary_ display, not the primary. If I quit and re-ran Configure.app, only the one card showed up again. After adding the second card, both seemed to have the correct Location info and whatnot, it just wasn't saved anywhere. Weirdly enough, Configure.app was also willing to nuke my Instance1.table, when I hacked one together. I hacked together an Instance1.table for OpenStep4.2 by copying an Instance0.table and changing the Instance= line, and no go. The Location line in each Instance table was that generated by Configure, Instance0 at Dev:11 and Instance1 at Dev:12. OpenStep boot hung after the lines: Display: Mode selected: 1152 x 864 @ 90 Hz (RGB:444/16) Registering: Display0 I removed the Millenium card, and rebooted NS3.3, and now after the above line, I also got: MatroxMGA2164WDisplayDriver: Matrox MGA2064W not found Leading me to believe things _almost_ work (I hadn't removed the Instance1.table, yet). Any more ideas? -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: ekumli@monet.artisan.calpoly.edu (Ely Ritter Kumli (Ely Kumli)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ethernet to NT PC help? Date: 16 Sep 1997 01:29:35 GMT Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5vkndv$rg$1@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> I have a NeXTStation 040 mono and a pentium pci w/nt4.0 and i would like to network them together. I have a D-Link ethernet card in the pc with drivers installed and a peer-to-peer crossover RJ45 cable. My pentium has dial-up internet access which assigns the pc an ip address, and I would like the pc to assign the NeXT an IP address for ftp/telnet ability. I have been searching for info to no avail.if anyone can recommend software to allow this, i would be very grateful. Thank you very much. Ely Please email replies. Thank you very much! -- - I know you think you understood what you thought you read, but I'm not sure you understand that what you read is not what I meant. ---ekumli@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu-----me-325@stn14.me.calpoly.edu---
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 16 Sep 1997 05:05:34 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Sep16005456@howard.doubleu.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 15 Sep 97 02:20:32 In article <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: Was unable to get both a Millenium II _and_ an original Millenium working in the same system. I have conclusively proven that it's not a hardware problem in my system. I did this by setting NT4.0 up to use both cards for a 2304x864 desktop. Sort of cool, except that I had to reduce the refresh rate to allow the secondary monitor to keep up, I kept getting alert panels precisely centered on the space _between_ the monitors, and the convenient little toolbar icons are _really_ annoying when you have to traverse the burning desert to get to them :-). But hey, it worked. More and more, I suspect that Configure.app simply does not like the setup I'm asking for. It seems willing enough to let me actually configure each card. The first clue that something's wrong is that it insists on putting the Millennium driver before the Millennium II driver in the browser. A sorting problem? And when I save the configuration, only the Instance0.table is written, though so long as Configure is running, it thinks both cards are configured. It may be that I'm seeing intelligence at work in some obscure fashion. If it's not supported and Configure knows it, I'd rather it just _complained_, though! Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Emmanuel Sciara <sciara@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:12:16 +0000 Organization: Schlumberger Geco-Prakla Message-ID: <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> References: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Have I correctely understood??? Prelude to Rhapsody is available on Sun Sparc!!!??? How comes? Will Rhapsody be available on Sparc? How can I get Prelude to Rhapsody? E. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Emmanuel SCIARA Schlumberger Geco-Prakla Tel: (44)-(0)1293-55-6827 DAPD Field Processing Fax: (44)-(0)1293-55-6066 Schlumberger House Email: sciara@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Gatwick Airport West Sussex RH6 0NZ, UK +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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From: CTMR <ctmr@roo.unixnet.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 3.2 install question Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 23:14:11 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <34209C83.8A004C61@roo.unixnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know if the enhanced ide drivers for nextstep 3.3 will work with nextstep 3.2 or have a workaround to be able to install nextstep 3.2 on an intel box whose only has a ide/atapi cdrom? Any help or suggestions would be most appreciated. CTMR@roo.unixnet.org
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 01:12:02 -0600 From: David.Hinz@mci.com Subject: Adding file type to Application Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <874562267.7370@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service How do you add a file type to the Application Inspector? The Application Inspector, Contents for Edit says that it can "Open these kinds of documents" then list C, cxx, c, h, m, .... I have the GNU Emacs front end by Michael Brouwer installed on my system and I would like it to be able to recognize and open C, cxx, cc, c, h, m, ... Currently the Application Inspector, Contents for Emacs doesn't list any files. How do I add the .C, .cxx, and other file types? I know I've done it before, but I've looked in Help, the manuals, and tried everything I can think of to do this? Any help would be appreciated. :) dave. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EGnt7v.2rL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 15:47:55 GMT References: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com>, Emmanuel Sciara <sciara@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> wrote: > >Hi all, > >Have I correctely understood??? Prelude to Rhapsody is available on Sun >Sparc!!!??? Apparently, yes. However, I've heard that the CD isn't bootable, so you have to use a 3.3 CD or some such. >How comes? Will Rhapsody be available on Sparc? Doubtful. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Zip drive woes Date: 18 Sep 1997 01:24:18 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all: I just picked up a Zip disk, and hooked it up to my color turbo slab. I tried to copy some apps onto the Zip disk, and it copied (albeit very slowly). After it was done, I clicked on the Zip disk to see the contents, and all apps had the same icon- a picture of a black monitor, similar to Terminal app but with a large question mark in the center. Any ideas? (TJL?) Thanks in advance Gregor
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From: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de (Thomas Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Solstice Network Client 3.1 and NS 3.3 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:00:26 GMT Organization: Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt Message-ID: <5vr8la$jv9$2@goof.Germany.EU.net> Has anyone succesful iinstallled Solstice Network Client 3.1 from Sunsoft on Windows 95 (normal version) and a NEXTSTEP 3.3 maschine as pcnfs server. Ping and telnet work. The software fails during the authentication procedure on the nfs server (NEXT Cube with NS 3.3 and installed patch, on an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2.5 too) with the error message "invalid user account or password". It´s is possible to compile (with minor changes of the code) and install the pcnfs daemon from the installation CD, but with the new daemon on the server it´s impossible from the client to find the authentication server, so it´s no help to use the new compiled rpc.pcnfsd. NEXTSTEP-Clients have no problems with the default and the new compiled daemon. Thanks for any help Thomas Thomas Richter Landesamt fuer Archaeologie Sachsen-Anhalt Richard-Wagner-Strasse 9-10 06114 Halle (Saale) email: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de
From: Curtis Crowson <curtis_crowson@emory.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 09:01:48 -0400 Organization: Emory University System of Health Care Message-ID: <3421263C.148F@emory.org> References: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <EGnt7v.2rL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >How comes? Will Rhapsody be available on Sparc? > > Doubtful. > > -- Check out www.macosrumors.com, they mention that some internal documents about Rhapsody mention bugs in drivers to other platforms like Sun, and HP. Well here is the exact quote. Is Rhapsody quietly supporting HP-UX and Solaris? While sifting through stacks of documents relating to Rhapsody DR1, Rumors has come upon information that suggests that Apple developers may be working on versions of the Yellow Box APIs for Hewlett-Packard's HP-UX and Sun Microsystems' Solaris operating systems. There are a number of references to bugs found on the Yellow Box running on those systems, as well as planned fixes. This means that, at the very least, Apple is investing time and effort into investigating the possibilities of supporting those platforms -- a major boon for any developer planning applications for the Yellow Box. Here is the URL if you want to check it out yourself. http://www.macosrumors.com/archive57.shtml Of course being the rumor page you should not bet your software on it.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Adding file type to Application Date: 18 Sep 1997 13:45:34 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vrb9u$eoe$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <874562267.7370@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: David.Hinz@mci.com download and READ http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/hack-ext.sh then make a backup copy of the app. Then ask yourself ``Do I feel lucky?'' and more importantly ``Do I feel wholly and soley responsible for whatever happens?'' Then run the script (``hack-ext.sh help'' will attempt to guide you in the right direction). TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff) milar to Terminal app > but with a large question mark in the center. What you are seeing are apps that did not copy correctly. When you have a damaged app it comes up with that ``Unknown app'' icon. Can't help any more than that.... my SyQuest drive ``just works''. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: ooss@inforamp.net (ObjectSearch Group) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:30:17 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <34220de0.18822592@news.istar.ca> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NeXTSTEP Developers REQUIRED With 1.5 to 2 years solid development in a commercial environment Location: MID WEST U.S. area Lenght of Project: 6 months to 1+ years Desired skills: C++, Java, Sybase, financial environment Required: 1.5 to 2 years solid NeXTSTEP Please forward your resume in confidence to: Donald Lascelle ObjectSearch Group (416) 421-1940 Voice (416) 421-9244 Fax email: Don@ObjectSearch.com
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 13:44:42 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg143826.thr-5a74319.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg143826.thr-5a74319.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> nospam@all.please,UseNet writes: >best option: Return it and get a SyQuest EZFlyer drive. It's faster, holds >more per cart, and it will ``just work'' (get the SCSI version). >The ZIP is slower, and has problems, as you have seen. >> After it was done, I clicked on the Zip disk to see the contents, and all >> apps had the same icon- a picture of a black monitor, similar to Terminal >app >> but with a large question mark in the center. >What you are seeing are apps that did not copy correctly. When you have a >damaged app it comes up with that ``Unknown app'' icon. >Can't help any more than that.... my SyQuest drive ``just works''. I'm the last person in the world to want to take issue with something Tim posts, but I'm afraid that I have to report that my mileage significantly varied. In both black and white cases, I "just plugged in" a scsi zip drive and in both cases they "just work" perfectly. They both read DOS, mac and Next format zips. Since more and more machines are coming with zips built in, I would counter recommend the zip over the ezFlyer which "just isn't common." -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: 18 Sep 1997 19:43:43 GMT Message-ID: <19970918194301.PAA29614@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <msg143826.thr-5a74319.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> SnewsLanguage: English I've had very good luck with my Zip Drive as well (icons for it at my web page!). But, it doesn't provide active termination, so I plug it into the middle of the SCSI chain. You may want to check that. If it's your ownly external SCSI device you might want to try a powered, external terminator. Now, if Iomega would just make the 20 MB cartridges which they originally promised... William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: 18 Sep 1997 22:00:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vs89f$s1u$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <msg143826.thr-5a74319.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg143826.thr-5a74319.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > I'm the last person in the world to want to take issue with something Tim posts, but I'm trying to become a minister, not Pope ;-) > I'm afraid that I have to report that my mileage significantly varied. In both black Well, I've heard from lots of folks who have had lots o' problems... of course, they probably wouldn't write to me and say ``Hey, just wanted you to know that everything is working fine!'' > Since more and more machines are coming with zips built in, Ah David you fell right into my trap! Now I can reply by saying: ``Yes I know, but a lot of computers are shipping with Win95 on them, that doesn't make them better or mean that I will add them to my computer'' > I would counter recommend the zip over the ezFlyer which "just isn't > common." Neither are NeXT users ;-) NeXT users want better, and IMO (note the lack of an H ;-) the SyQuest line is better, even if lesser-known. Alright, I've got to study, my ordination exams are tomorrow, I am not going to pass them, and I'm reading Usenet.... sick sick sick... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP Developers required - Permenent & Contract Positions Date: 18 Sep 1997 21:50:33 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vs7n9$s1u$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34220de0.18822592@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ooss@inforamp.net,Don@ObjectSearch.com InfoRamp.com: 1) learn how to crosspost. You posted this to csn.software and RE-posted it to csn.misc. Meaning that I had to see it mis-posted twice (see #2) 2) better yet, learn how to post. a) csn.misc is ONLY for posts which do not belong anywhere else. b) csn.software is for discussion of NeXTStep software Neither one of these groups is appropriate for a job search. If you want to post something like that it should go to csn.announce, which you can post to via email <next-announce@digifix.com> For more information on how to post to csn.* read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html 3) learn how to use a spell checker. The word you were looking for was ``Permanent'' ObjectSearch.com: The person you have head-hunting for you does not know how to post to the appropriate newsgroups and can't be bothered to spell-check. It's not a glowing reflection on those who hired them. TjL, not a programmer, just a hater of mis-posted posts and those who can't be bothered with netiquette. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: 18 Sep 1997 22:43:43 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5vsaqv$sep$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > In <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> gregor@crosslink.net wrote: > > > > Hello all: > > I just picked up a Zip disk, and hooked it up to my color turbo slab. I > tried > > to copy some apps onto the Zip disk, and it copied (albeit very slowly). > > best option: Return it and get a SyQuest EZFlyer drive. It's faster, holds > more per cart, and it will ``just work'' (get the SCSI version). I disagree with TjL's opinion. Several of us here at Omni have Zip drives - they work well (though the device certainly isn't perfect) and are plug-and-play with NeXTstep (with the exception that DOS preformatted Zip cartridges have to be reformatted with the Mac filesystem before they can be formatted for NeXTstep). To be fair, I should note that I have never used the EZFlyer, though I know (or know of) several people who have them and like them. I do know that it is plug-and-play with NeXTstep, holds more and is much faster than the Zip (and can be put on any SCSI id - a big win), but it's also more expensive, FAR less prevalent, relatively unwieldy, and the cartridges are far more fragile than Zip cartridges. I recommend that anyone considering getting an EZFlyer first evaluate the Iomega Jaz drive, which is fast, holds 1 GB per cartridge, is relatively prevalent, and is pretty cheap nowadays. We have a few Jaz drives here, and they work well with NeXTstep, but do have some awkwardness involved in disk initialization. The SyQuest SyJet is a competitor for the Jaz drive - it's comparable in speed, holds appreciably more (1.5 GB), but also is more expensive and is less prevalent. Personally, I would prefer an MO drive for several reasons, including the fact that the media reliability and durability is much higher than anything else, but the entry cost is much higher and they are still quite slow. Some of the lower capacity drives can be had quite cheaply nowadays, however. Having said all that, the EZFlyer will be the best choice for some people, but I encourage anyone to evaluate at least these choices: Zip, EZFlyer, Jaz, SyJet, and MO. My personal choice for "super-floppy" is Zip, and for "removable hard drive" is Jaz. As for the original question, I really don't know why gregor is having the problems he described. This should be (and has been in my experience) pretty much plug and play, so I would look at termination issues, scsi cable, too long a scsi chain, conflicting ids, etc, and ultimately bad zip drive. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
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From: Eren_Kotan@apple.com (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Date: 19 Sep 1997 10:00:20 GMT Organization: NeXT/Apple European Professional Services Message-ID: <5vtifk$eei$1@news2.apple.com> References: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <EGnt7v.2rL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3421263C.148F@emory.org> Cc: curtis_crowson@emory.org Various people wrote: > Have I correctely understood??? Prelude to Rhapsody is available on Sun > Sparc!!!??? "Prelude to Rhapsody" was simply a pre-release version of NeXT's OPENSTEP 4.2 product, intended to give developers a head start on getting the hang of the OpenStep APIs and development environment. OPENSTEP 4.2 supports intel-PCs, m68k-NeXTs and Sun-SPARC platforms. Don't confuse this with Rhapsody. > How comes? Will Rhapsody be available on Sparc? Apple has no announced plans to port Rhapsody to SPARC at this time. > Check out www.macosrumors.com, they mention that some internal documents > about Rhapsody mention bugs in drivers to other platforms like Sun, and > HP. A lot of the claims on www.macosrumors.com is incorrect. This is one of them. They must have heard of Portable Distributed Objecs (PDO) on Solaris and HP/UX and jumped to the conclusion that this is Rhapsody for SPARC and HP. It is NOT. PDO has been available for these two OSes for a long time, it is merely a collection of OpenStep kits, the NeXT compiler/debugger plus other assorted CLI devtools. It allows you to compile and deploy non-GUI OpenStep apps on these platforms (CLI server apps). There is no window server, no GUI devtools, and no AppKit. There is no support for GUI OpenStep apps. Hope this clears some of the confusion, Eren -- Eren Kotan The best friend money can buy. Can you imagine a world with no hypothetical questions? Apple Enterprise Professional Services - (formerly part of NeXT Software)
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 08:44:53 -0400 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-1909970844530001@frazer.com> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> gregor@crosslink.net wrote: > I just picked up a Zip disk, and hooked it up to my color turbo slab. I tried to copy some apps onto the Zip disk, and it copied (albeit very slowly). If you heard a lot of clicking sounds, your drive may have gone belly up, or it may be encountering strong magnetic fields which interfere with its operation. So, if it clicks all the time, try moving it.
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: 19 Sep 1997 18:57:23 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5vuhuj$dm@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vsaqv$sep$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com In <5vsaqv$sep$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > I disagree with TjL's opinion. Several of us here at Omni have Zip drives - > they work well (though the device certainly isn't perfect) and are > plug-and-play with NeXTstep (with the exception that DOS preformatted Zip > cartridges have to be reformatted with the Mac filesystem before they can be > formatted for NeXTstep). Same here. Works fine, no problems so far. It also looks like Zip gets more and more common (several new PowersMacs come preequipped with them), so chances are good any partner has one too. Really nice to exchange files. Even if it means you have to resort to that insane DOS filesystem for exchange with W*ndows systems :( -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: prelude to Rhapsody on Sparc?!?! Date: 19 Sep 1997 18:52:38 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5vuhlm$dm@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <341E6923.2781E494@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <341E6990.446B9B3D@gatwick.geco-prakla.slb.com> <EGnt7v.2rL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <3421263C.148F@emory.org> <5vtifk$eei$1@news2.apple.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Eren_Kotan@apple.com In <5vtifk$eei$1@news2.apple.com> Eren Kotan wrote: > > A lot of the claims on www.macosrumors.com is incorrect. This is one of them. > They must have heard of Portable Distributed Objecs (PDO) on Solaris and > HP/UX and jumped to the conclusion that this is Rhapsody for SPARC and HP. It > is NOT. PDO has been available for these two OSes for a long time, it is > merely a collection of OpenStep kits, the NeXT compiler/debugger plus other > assorted CLI devtools. It allows you to compile and deploy non-GUI OpenStep > apps on these platforms (CLI server apps). There is no window server, no GUI > devtools, and no AppKit. There is no support for GUI OpenStep apps. Plus, Sun doesn't seem too enthusiastic about OpenStep anymore. They killed OpenStep/Solaris. Probably considered it a threat to their Java thing. Stupid decision, now SPARCs aren't an alternative for me anymore. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: Oleg Naroditsky <narodits@sas.upenn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT->UNIX mail conversion Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:11:43 -0400 Organization: SAS Computing Message-ID: <3422CE6F.2F6A@sas.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I need to convert some mail box files from NeXT to UNIX mail box format. Does anyone know of a program (hopefully free) to automate this? Thanks a lot. Oleg Naroditsky
From: Oleg Naroditsky <narodits@sas.upenn.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT->UNIX mail conversion Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:26:06 -0400 Organization: SAS Computing Message-ID: <3422D1CE.65A2@sas.upenn.edu> References: <3422CE6F.2F6A@sas.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi! > > I need to convert some mail box files from NeXT to UNIX mail box > format. Does anyone know of a program (hopefully free) to automate this? > > Thanks a lot. > > Oleg Naroditsky I meant attachments as well as mbox files... Thanks. Oleg
From: "John K. Watson" <jkwatson@nwu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: any hope of a mystique driver? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 14:37:59 -0500 Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <3422D497.D9F399DA@nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm getting ready to get NeXtStep for my Intel box, and I have a Matrox Mystique. Has anyone heard any word that there might be a driver for it, or know of a driver that works with it? I'd hate to have to downgrade my computer to my old Cirrus Logic card, but I will if I have to. (And then, in a month or so when I have the cash, buy a Millenium, I guess). Thanks, John K. Watson jkwatson@nwu.edu
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT->UNIX mail conversion Date: 19 Sep 1997 23:06:30 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vv0hm$s1u$15@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3422CE6F.2F6A@sas.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: narodits@sas.upenn.edu In <3422CE6F.2F6A@sas.upenn.edu> Oleg Naroditsky wrote: > I need to convert some mail box files from NeXT to UNIX mail box > format. Does anyone know of a program (hopefully free) to automate this? If there are no NeXTMail messages, then you can just take the `mbox' file out of the mailbox directory (ie ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox/mbox) and use that. If there are NeXTMail messages, there is a program called 'mbox2bsd' but it may be easier/safer to just save what you want by hand. TjL -- need a smile? Checkout this: http://www.agis.net/outages.htm no joke
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT->UNIX mail conversion Date: 20 Sep 1997 04:31:41 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vvjjd$s1u$21@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3422CE6F.2F6A@sas.upenn.edu> <3422D1CE.65A2@sas.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: narodits@sas.upenn.edu In <3422D1CE.65A2@sas.upenn.edu> Oleg Naroditsky wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > I need to convert some mail box files from NeXT to UNIX mail box > > format. Does anyone know of a program (hopefully free) to automate this? > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > Oleg Naroditsky > > I meant attachments as well as mbox files... Well, Carl Edman's mbox2bsd should do the job -- but just to get the *text* of the message back to the mbox. There's no automatic way to get other attachments back in. The program is short enough to include it here: begin 755 mbox2bsd M(R$O=7-R+VQO8V%L+V)I;B]P97)L"B,@+2HM4&5R;"TJ+0HC(R,C(R,C(R,C M(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C M(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C"B,*(R!&:6QE.B`@("`@("`@(&UB M;W@R8G-D"B,@4D-3.B`@("`@("`@("`O=7-R+VQO8V%L+W-O=7)C97,O0U93 M+VUA:6QA<'`M=71I;&ET:65S+VUB;W@R8G-D+'8@,2XQ+C$N,2`Q.3DV+S$Q M+S(T(#$T.C4V.C$V('1O;2!%>'`*(R!$97-C<FEP=&EO;CH@($$@<75I8VL@ M:&%C:R!T;R!C;VYV97)T(&UA:6QB;WAE<R!T;R!"4T0@9F]R;6%T("AH86YD M;&5S($YE6%1M86EL*0HC($%U=&AO<CH@("`@("`@0V%R;"!%9&UA;@HC($-R M96%T960Z("`@("`@4W5N($UA<B`S,2`Q-#HS-#HU-"`Q.3DV"B,@36]D:69I M960Z("`@("!3=6X@36%R(#,Q(#$T.C,U.C(Q(#$Y.38@*$-A<FP@161M86XI M(&-E9&UA;D!C87!I=&%L:7-T+G!R:6YC971O;BYE9'4*(R!,86YG=6%G93H@ M("`@(%!E<FP*(R!086-K86=E.B`@("`@($XO00HC(%-T871U<SH@("`@("`@ M17AP97)I;65N=&%L("A$;R!.;W0@1&ES=')I8G5T92D*(PHC("A#*2!#;W!Y M<FEG:'0@,3DY-BP@8G5T(&]T:&5R=VES92!T:&ES(&9I;&4@:7,@<&5R9F5C M="!F<F5E=V%R92X*(PHC(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C M(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C(R,C M(R,C"@HD87-C:6D](B(["B`@("`*=VAI;&4H/#XI('L*("`@('!R:6YT("1? M.PH@("`@:68@*"]>3F5X="U2969E<F5N8V4Z("LH6UX@72HI+"]O*2!["B`@ M("`@("`@)'!A=&@]<W5B<W1R*"1!4D=6+"1;+')I;F1E>"@D05)'5BPG+R<I M*S$I.PH@("`@("`@("1A<V-I:3U@<G1F+6%S8VEI("1P871H+R0Q+VEN9&5X M+G)T9F`["B`@("`@("`@8VAO<"`D87-C:6D["B`@("!]"B`@("!I9B`H+UXD M+V\@)B8@*"1A<V-I:2!N92`B(BDI('L@<')I;G0@)&%S8VEI.R!P<FEN="`B 47&XB.R`D87-C:6D](B([('T*?0HI ` end Hope this helps. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Tools Inspector & how to set NetSurfer as default gif viewer Date: 19 Sep 1997 23:07:26 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5vvp6u$gua@slip.net> Hi, When I bring up Tools Inspector to set NetSurfer as the default gif viewer for my system the NetSurfer icon doesn't appear in the row of icons. How can I set it so NetSurfer appears in the row so NetSurfer will be the default gif viewer? Thanks, Emmett
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tools Inspector & how to set NetSurfer as default gif viewer Date: 20 Sep 1997 12:02:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <600e0i$s1u$22@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vvp6u$gua@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5vvp6u$gua@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > When I bring up Tools Inspector to set NetSurfer as > the default gif viewer for my system the NetSurfer > icon doesn't appear in the row of icons. > > How can I set it so NetSurfer appears in the row > so NetSurfer will be the default gif viewer? NetSurfer needs to register itself. The only way to do this is to use segedit to hack the Mach-O file (ie /LocalApps/NetSurfer.app/NetSurfer) after making a backup of course. I've got a script to help this which you can find at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/hack-ext.sh But it can be a little tricky. As I said above, make sure you make a backup... not all apps can do this, but most can in my experience. If you have problems, drop me a line. Next time I read mail I'll be done with my exams! TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EGrJJx.LCG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 16:09:33 GMT References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> wrote: > >In <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> gregor@crosslink.net wrote: >> >> Hello all: >> I just picked up a Zip disk, and hooked it up to my color turbo slab. I >tried >> to copy some apps onto the Zip disk, and it copied (albeit very slowly). > >best option: Return it and get a SyQuest EZFlyer drive. It's faster, holds >more per cart, and it will ``just work'' (get the SCSI version). > Timothy, I know you're a crusader for Syquest, but the Zip drive "just works" too. Most problems I've seen with them involve either faulty cabling or faulty disks. Not to malign Syquest--they work too--just some info. :-) >Can't help any more than that.... my SyQuest drive ``just works''. > As does my Zip drive (and our lab's Jaz drive, for tha matter.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9488874209621@digifix.com> Date: 21 Sep 1997 03:49:30 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <6026gn$lud@new1.sundial.net> Control: cancel <6026gn$lud@new1.sundial.net> Date: 21 Sep 1997 04:10:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6026gn$lud@new1.sundial.net> Sender: SEX APPEAL INSTANTLY<jason@compuserve.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: sites@global-merchanst.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FREE INTERNET AD SITES TO PROMOTE YOUR BUSINESS Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 17:06:23 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <604d01$omt$548@usenet76.supernews.com> How would you like to promote your business to over 10,000+ Internet sites that will give you free publicity? Well, there is no special gimmick to getting it done. I have compiled addresses of websites, both classified and search engines that will give you FREE publicity on the Internet. To find out how you can get your copy of my diskette, point your browser to: http://www.global-merchants.com/home/4000.htm e-mail: gige@global-merchants.com
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From: "Jan Husak" <jan.husak@swisstelecom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Harddiskkit for Nextstation Date: 22 Sep 1997 07:04:37 GMT Organization: Swiss Telecom Message-ID: <01bcc725$c9bf3500$cf95be8a@gd2zxk.swissptt.ch> hi there, I bought lately a new hard disk (Seagate 2 GByte) for my NeXTstation but with no kit to install it. Can anybody tell me where to find this kit or has anybody one left to send me? Regards ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------- Informatik TELECOM Tel.: ++41 (0)31 342 11 28 Jan Husak, IS-PM-3 Fax.: ++41 (0)31 342 08 50 Postfach 3029 Bern email: Jan.Husak@SWISSCOM.ch ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Date: 22 Sep 1997 00:57:22 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com In <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote: > On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:32:28 -0400, pxpst2@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Peter) > wrote: [snip] > > 3) Set NCPUS to something greater than 1 and rebuild the kernel > > 4) Test. Then test some more. Then test again. (This bit takes some > time...) I wonder if DPS will make use of the additional processors? If I remember correctly, DPS is not multithreaded, so it would just 'sit' on one CPU. It would bring *some* speedup, of course. With all the fuss Sun makes about the Java hardware, I wonder if one could implement a HW PostScript accelerator. Some kind of whizzy flashy fpu stack machine with ...... Nay, probably not a good idea. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 22 Sep 1997 11:07:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <606c44$iif@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: scott@doubleu.com In <SCOTT.97Sep15022032@howard.doubleu.com> Scott Hess wrote: > So, on Sunday the CompUSA circular has a Millenium-II for $180, after > $120 worth of rebates. Though I'm generally loath to go to their > store, I took the chance, I bought the card. I turned down the > extended warranty, even though the cashier made noises like he > expected the card to break down ANY MINUTE NOW. [How can a company > live with themselves. Either they're suckering you on that warranty, > or they're selling you crap. I mean, if I'm buying a used 1978 Chevy > Nova, that's one thing, but buying new? Sigh.] Just a short comment on that... CompUSA is joining the not-so-new trend in retail called the "extended warantee". What isn't so nice about it is that salespeople are pressured by management to sell these things (sometimes with punitive measures is enough aren't sold). Profit margins on these range from 33-75% or more. It's ruined retail shopping like infomercials ruined (what isn't ruined already) what was on TV. -- Robert Worne [mail to me with the URL below:] Mail: http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/email.html //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: "Simon (V. ILyushchenko)" <simonf@rrg.msk.su> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NFS without Netinfo??? Samba printing to NT??? Date: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 01:37:30 +0400 Organization: Russian Space Research Institute Message-ID: <3426E51A.11DD@rrg.msk.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am a system administrator trying to incorporate Nextstep 3.3 machines into a typical office network with a Linux server and Windows workstations. Since I am not terribly versed in Next, I have some problems: 1. How can I add the Linux server to the Netinfo domain? When I try to do it the usual way via Netinfo HostManager, the new entry appears, but I cannot use it in the NFSManager for importing an NFS directory. I do specify both the IP and Ethernet addresses of the Linux server. 2. If it is not possible, is there another way to use NFS on Nextstep, avoding Netinfo altogether? Now for Samba 1.9.16p9 and NT printer problems: 3. Sometimes smbclient's connection time is very slow (more exactly, minutes may pass between "Adding interface" message and smb command prompt). Looks like it is very slow the first time after a login and gets faster at the further tries. 4. Only whole pages are printed. If a file is too small, the printer will wait for more input from smbclient. If a file is longer than one page, the complete pages will be printed, and the rest will be left "cached". If I print something else from the same smbclient later, it gets appended to the cached text. If I print from a Windows machine later, the cached text is printed on a separate page before giving way to the Windows output. Thanks, Simon -- _________ Simon (Vsevolod ILyushchenko) | x | | y = e | simonf@rrg.msk.su Life is file... |_________| Disclaimer: This is not me. This is just my mailer talking to your mailer...
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Date: 22 Sep 1997 23:13:50 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <606u3e$9oa$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnhöfer` wrote: > In <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> Mike Paquette wrote: > > On Thu, 18 Sep 1997 14:32:28 -0400, pxpst2@vms.cis.pitt.edu (Peter) > > wrote: > [snip] > > > > 3) Set NCPUS to something greater than 1 and rebuild the kernel > > > > 4) Test. Then test some more. Then test again. (This bit takes some > > time...) > > I wonder if DPS will make use of the additional processors? If I remember > correctly, DPS is not multithreaded, so it would just 'sit' on one CPU. It > would bring *some* speedup, of course. Someone (Mike?) implied or suggested or hinted that perhaps the DPS will be able to have its own processor (or maybe take advantage of it). Wasn't this what the NeXTDimension board did, take care of the video? If so, or if at least similar, then it seems highly likely we'll see it under Rhapsody... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: beigel@eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: problem compiling C programs Date: 23 Sep 1997 03:39:02 GMT Message-ID: <607dkm$23ta@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Summary: help! I think I messed something up on my system, because C doesn't find its header files. Can someone tell me what I am doing wrong? almond [24] ~/t/ !cc cc lex.yy.c -ll lex.yy.c:11: header file 'stdio.h' not found lex.yy.c:102: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:146: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:228: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:232: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:234: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:265: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:265: illegal expression, found `)' lex.yy.c:265: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `)' lex.yy.c:265: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:265: illegal external declaration, missing `;' after `*' lex.yy.c:2077: header file 'stdlib.h' not found lex.yy.c:3965: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:4023: undefined type, found `FILE' lex.yy.c:4080: undefined type, found `FILE' almond [25] ~/t/ !ll ll /usr/include/std* -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1176 Jun 29 1993 /usr/include/std.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root 40 Jun 29 1993 /usr/include/stdarg.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root 169 Jun 29 1993 /usr/include/stddef.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root 62 Aug 20 1993 /usr/include/stdio.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root 1483 Jun 29 1993 /usr/include/stdiostream.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root 40 Aug 20 1993 /usr/include/stdlib.h almond [26] ~/t/ which cc /bin/cc I'm on a b/w turbo slab if that matters.
From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ARG! Broken AGAIN?! Date: 23 Sep 1997 05:54:57 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Alright...I just got my *second* Color Slab from DeepSpace Tech (the first one froze at "testing system..."). This one doesn't power up at all. Both supposedly worked when they left DST...I'm getting sick of waiting 6 working days for UPS to get the machine here and spending money sending them back. *PLEASE* if you have an idea of how I can fix this on my own, let me know. I'm about ready to just ask for my money back and give up on haveing a NeXT. sean ------ Sean Harding sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu Student Director of Orientation 372 Oregon Hall University of Oregon Office of Orientation 541-346-1159 http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~uointro/
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.2 availability Date: 23 Sep 1997 19:25:15 GMT Message-ID: <19970923192501.PAA01134@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <608qh9$m6c$2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> SnewsLanguage: English OPENSTEP 4.2 is available. Call 1-800 TRY NEXT, or contact Rob Blessin of Black Hole. I'm pasting in below, a message of his announcing having this. Also his e-mail address. I purchased 4.2 direct from NeXT, and kind of regret that now. It's not installing to my laptop, and if I'd gotten 3.3 instead, I would feel comfortable with upgrading 3.1 on my Cube with that. William Subject: FS: Openstep 4.2 Academic Mach & NT, 3.1 Web Objects Academic. In Stock! From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Date: 1997/08/20 Message-Id: <5tdlq5$kgg@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace [More Headers] Hello NeXT/ Apple community: UPS finally released our Academic Bundles from captivity: In Stock now $334 per bundle includes shipping in US. $349 to Canada. Please specify for Mach or NT ! The order form is at http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ under specials and promotions. In addition: Thank you for your interest ordering the Academic Bundle , NeXT/Apple/P&L/BHI requires a photocopy of your student or faculty ID and something that shows that you are currently enrolled... IE course transcript , registration card, paystub or tuition bill. Also please include a statement that says to the effect you are planning on using the software exclusively for Academic or Research purposes only with no intention of commercial use. Please fax the information to 303-320-0949 Attention Openstep 4.2 Academic Bundle for Mach Sales and be sure to list the platform ... Intel, NeXT or Sun. We accept MC, Visa, can ship COD Cashiers Checks or Money orders only. University PO's over $1000 accepted, Under $1000 must be accompanied with a prepay check, we can provide a proforma invoice if needed. We prefer shipping priority US mail, Fed EX is $15 more. Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ARG! Broken AGAIN?! Date: 23 Sep 1997 19:36:58 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <6095oq$9uc@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu In <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Sean Harding wrote: > Alright...I just got my *second* Color Slab from DeepSpace Tech (the first > one froze at "testing system..."). This one doesn't power up at all. > > Both supposedly worked when they left DST...I'm getting sick of waiting 6 > working days for UPS to get the machine here and spending money sending > them back. > > *PLEASE* if you have an idea of how I can fix this on my own, let me know. > > I'm about ready to just ask for my money back and give up on haveing a NeXT. My friend had the exact same problem and it turned out that he had installed the cable that connects the slab to the monitor and sound box backwards.... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: webmaster@cardshow.com (Michael Guitton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip drive woes Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:41:43 +0200 Organization: Analyses & Syntheses Message-ID: <webmaster-2409971241440001@paris10-132.paris.worldnet.fr> References: <5vpvs2$8d3$1@kronos.crosslink.net> <5vrbg4$eoe$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vsaqv$sep$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In article <5vsaqv$sep$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > >Having said all that, the EZFlyer will be the best choice for some people, >but I encourage anyone to evaluate at least these choices: Zip, EZFlyer, Jaz, >SyJet, and MO. My personal choice for "super-floppy" is Zip, and for >"removable hard drive" is Jaz. > Will the LS-120 work with OpenStep? I have yet to see a SCSI-based drive though... -- Michael Guitton webmaster@cardshow.com "Learn as if you would live forever, Live as if you would die tomorrow." -- Mahatma Gandhi
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Stephen Perkins, check your mail config Date: 24 Sep 1997 11:31:46 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60atn2$86i$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephen, any email I try to send you bounces with this message: Your message To: Stephen J. Perkins Subject: Re: modem setup? Sent: Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:50:57 -0400 did not reach the following recipient(s): Stephen J. Perkins on Tue, 23 Sep 1997 17:48:15 -0400 Unable to deliver the message due to a communications failure MSEXCH:IMS:TechSmith Corporation:TSCINET:TSCINET3 0 (001202AA) Too Many Hops {{ Sorry for the personal message in Usenet, but necessary for obvious reasons }} TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to print over AppleTalk? Date: 24 Sep 1997 12:07:41 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60avqd$fma$2@news.seicom.net> References: <60a338$1in@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu In <60a338$1in@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > I have a Nextstation hooked into the school network here, and I would > REALLY like to print to the local LaserWriter NTR. > > CAPer shows it, and I can print up the test page, but I can't print > anything from Edit.app(no printer selected), and PrintManager.app is > clueless. > > What I would like is to print from the "Print..." menu over the > Ethernet/appletalk to the printer. If CAPer can show it in the network chooser and print to it (guess you used the top 'test' button which performs a direct PAP connection and pumps over the testpage) everything should be set up to print from any app. Just follow the instructions (It is in the CAPer README in the Info menu): 1. Create a new 'dummy' printer using /NextApps/PrintManager.app, call it what you want, select the correct PPD and set it to use the serial interface (CAPer will change this, it is only for setup) 2. Start CAPer, start the Appletalk services, wait to establish network, open the Network Chooser, select the printer entity in your zone. A panel opens, on the top you will see the name of the printer entity at the bottom you will see the in 1. created printer name (Under Local Printers). 3. You now have to connect the 'Entity' to you 'Queue', select the in 1. created printer name, press the 'connect' button to connect it. Press the lower 'test' button (the one under the connect button) to test your queue setup. If a testpage comes out everything should be fine. 4. If you queue 'hangs' for some reason, do a 'lpc restart YOUR_QUEUENAME' (where YOUR_QUEUENAME is your name from 1.) as root in a shell. 5. Send me a bottle of Scotch :-) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ARG! Broken AGAIN?! Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 16:31:54 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Message-ID: <1997092316301314105410N@[192.168.0.2]> References: <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu> > Alright...I just got my *second* Color Slab from DeepSpace Tech (the first > one froze at "testing system..."). This one doesn't power up at all. > > Both supposedly worked when they left DST...I'm getting sick of waiting 6 > working days for UPS to get the machine here and spending money sending > them back. > > *PLEASE* if you have an idea of how I can fix this on my own, let me know. > > I'm about ready to just ask for my money back and give up on haveing a NeXT. As I got my Turbo Color slab, the first thing I did wrong, was to connect the Y-Cable (Monitor - Soundbox - Slab) the wrong way... The result was that I couldn't power on the slab... Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to print over AppleTalk? Date: 24 Sep 1997 17:06:54 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60bhbe$gl@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <60a338$1in@crcnis3.unl.edu> <60avqd$fma$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert (frank@this.NO_SPAM.net) wrote: : : If CAPer can show it in the network chooser and print to it (guess you used : the top 'test' button which performs a direct PAP connection and pumps over : the testpage) everything should be set up to print from any app. Just follow : the instructions (It is in the CAPer README in the Info menu): : Thanks. It works. I guess I must have missed it first time through the README :-\ -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed|
From: "Jeffrey D. Iverson" <jeffiv@cwcinc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Directory update Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 12:39:22 -0500 Organization: Iverson Software Co. Message-ID: <3429504A.3EDF@cwcinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Directory of Software Development Professionals (http://www.iversonsoftware.com/service.html) now has a category for NeXTStep/OpenStep. -- The Directory of Software Development Professionals http://www.iversonsoftware.com/service.html http://www.iversonsoftware.com/add_entry.htm
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FTP vs HTTP Date: 25 Sep 1997 13:58:03 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nextppp@peak.org Every now and again I get asked a very similar question: ``Why is PEAK so slow?'' Now, admittedly I have had this experience too, several months ago. It was actually so bad that I could not sustain a *telnet* session from the east coast to PEAK. However, this was not really a problem with PEAK, but mostly with their link through Mae West. I am used to seeing FTP downloads from PEAK to the east coast which are about 30kb/s. While that is not extremely high, for anyone behind a 28.8 modem it is by far sufficient (I never saw more than 4kb/s downloads from my modem doing binary downloads). However, I learned something rather interesting, which seems to be true. The FTP protocol tries to be nice to you by not using all of the available bandwidth. The assumption being, I suppose, that if you are downloading a huge file, you might want to use the connection for other things as well. In comparison, the HTTP protocol has no such niceties. It seems to assume that if you are loading a web page, you want to see it as fast as possible, so it tries to force as much down your throat as possible. While I can't find the page where I read this, I have tested it and it seems to be true. ``Why do I care?'' you ask. Simple: you can download from PEAK using either FTP or HTTP. ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next = http://www.peak.org/next So if you are trying to increase the speed of your downloads, you might want to try using http rather than ftp. (You'll also get to see some of the HTML we've been working on ;-) ``What's the downside?'' The biggest downside is that http is not really meant for file transfers in the way that ftp is. It's not the *wrong* tool, it just isn't the best tool. For example, if you are ftp'ing a 5 meg file and the connection drops, you can ``reget'' the file and start where you left off (YFtp makes this quite easy). If you are downloading a 5 meg file using http and the connection drops, you usually have to start all over again. [Note: if you are using OmniWeb and do NOT want a .tar.gz file to be sent to Opener.app when it has been downloaded, then hold down the <command> key before you click on the file you wish to download.] So it may improve things and it may not, I just thought it was interesting and thought I'd share it. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 4.2 Instalation Disk Problem Date: 25 Sep 1997 19:31:25 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <60ee6d$fo2@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> hi all, i've been reading the comp.sys.next... newsgoups for a while, and eager to get started, i shelled out a couple hundred bucks for the academic version for intel. I can't get it to install, though. I believe there is something wrong with the installation floppy. the documentation says to enter 'bfd' if installing from a floppy and CD-ROM, but after I type this, it says 'bad super block' and a bunch of other crap. My question is - what do I do? Will NeXT send me a new floppy? or is there some kind soul out there who can make a copy of the disk (i believe a running NeXT system is required for this) and mail it to me? i'll pay for it... so i'm all ready to go, and now this happens. arghh... LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
From: Chris Conley <cconley@mcs.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrading an eceSys p90 Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 17:35:53 -0500 Organization: design research associates, inc. Message-ID: <342AE742.64EB@mcs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was wondering if anybody knows if I can upgrade my eceSys p() to a faster pentium processor. eceSys was a clone manufacturer that set up NeXT boxes. I would appreciate any help someone may provide. Thanks, Chris Conley chris@drpd.com
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 4.2 Instalation Disk Problem Date: 25 Sep 1997 22:12:19 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <60enk3$aci$8@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <60ee6d$fo2@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu In <60ee6d$fo2@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> Larry A. Latson, Jr. wrote: > i've been reading the comp.sys.next... newsgoups for a while, > and eager to get started, i shelled out a couple hundred > bucks for the academic version for intel. Ah, Intel > I can't get it to install, though. I believe there is something > wrong with the installation floppy. the documentation says > to enter 'bfd' if installing from a floppy and CD-ROM, but > after I type this, it says 'bad super block' and a bunch > of other crap. I'm trying to remember exactly what I did when I had to do this. 'bfd' is for NeXT hardware and not for Intel, I think. Put the floppy in. Put the CD in. Boot the machine. See what happens. If it fails, try 'bsd' and see what happens. That's one place to start. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: thomas@zippy.sonoma.edu (Thomas Poff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Date: 25 Sep 1997 22:58:21 GMT Organization: CSUnet Message-ID: <60eqad$eoq$1@nuke.csu.net> References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> This is true to the best of my knowledge. A Postscript accelerator in ASIC form is one of those ideas that's just _dying_ to happen. Using a processor to do DPS is kinduv a waste of time even tho' with modern processors you can get performance that's just dinky-doo. It seems to me that Rhapsody servers aimed at also being clients should have the option of hardware assist on the graphics side. Other layers could be embedded in the ASIC on top of that as space and gate count permit. I can't comment on that but what that means should be pretty obvious to anyone that cares. I think American companies should consider getting back into design and fab. Thomas : : I wonder if DPS will make use of the additional processors? If I remember : correctly, DPS is not multithreaded, so it would just 'sit' on one CPU. It : would bring *some* speedup, of course. : With all the fuss Sun makes about the Java hardware, I wonder if one could : implement a HW PostScript accelerator. Some kind of whizzy flashy fpu stack : machine with ...... Nay, probably not a good idea.
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 06:24:53 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <3428ad72.3776880@news.wco.com> References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> On 22 Sep 1997 00:57:22 GMT, rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= wrote: > I wonder if DPS will make use of the additional processors? If I remember >correctly, DPS is not multithreaded, so it would just 'sit' on one CPU. It >would bring *some* speedup, of course. > Oh, yeah. I think I can come up with productive ways to use 2-3 more processors... Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk-mailers!)
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From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to print over AppleTalk? Date: 26 Sep 1997 06:49:06 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60flt2$2u0@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <60a338$1in@crcnis3.unl.edu> <60avqd$fma$2@news.seicom.net> Frank M. Siegert (frank@this.NO_SPAM.net) wrote: : : 5. Send me a bottle of Scotch :-) : Is the cheap stuff ok? -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed|
From: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (Markus Rohner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 26 Sep 97 08:17:53 GMT Organization: Migros-Genossenschafts-Bund Message-ID: <342b6fb1.0@newsser1.gmsg.ch> References: <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: [...] > > The biggest downside is that http is not really meant for file transfers in > the way that ftp is. It's not the *wrong* tool, it just isn't the best tool. > For example, if you are ftp'ing a 5 meg file and the connection drops, you > can ``reget'' the file and start where you left off (YFtp makes this quite > easy). If you are downloading a 5 meg file using http and the connection > drops, you usually have to start all over again. > > [Note: if you are using OmniWeb and do NOT want a .tar.gz file to be sent to > Opener.app > when it has been downloaded, then hold down the <command> key before you > click on the file you wish to download.] > > So it may improve things and it may not, I just thought it was interesting > and thought I'd share it. > > TjL > > This is not quite a reply to the above message, but it reminded me of a problem with downloads with OmniWeb. When I try to download a huge file with OmniWeb it stops after (about) 18 minutes (elapsed time). Even if the bytes come in constantly. It seems, that OmniWeb has a builtin limit of ~18 minutes download time. Is this true, or is this another problem? Markus -- Markus Rohner Methodik/Infrastruktur Genossenschaft Migros St. Gallen eMail: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (NeXTmail/MIME welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EH0ztn.29t@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 18:39:22 GMT References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> <606u3e$9oa$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <606u3e$9oa$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> wrote: > >Someone (Mike?) implied or suggested or hinted that perhaps the DPS will be >able to have its own processor (or maybe take advantage of it). > And the Windowserver and the client app could live on separate CPUs which, provided you have smart cache design, is a win. >Wasn't this what the NeXTDimension board did, take care of the video? If so, >or if at least similar, then it seems highly likely we'll see it under >Rhapsody... > Sort-of. The i860 on the ND board did things like scales, fills, compositing (I think) and some other simple stuff while the actual PS was interpreted by the '040. In effect the RIP was spread between the two. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 26 Sep 1997 14:52:28 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <60gi7c$3q2@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <342b6fb1.0@newsser1.gmsg.ch> In article <342b6fb1.0@newsser1.gmsg.ch> markus.rohner@gmsg.ch (Markus Rohner) writes: > When I try to download a huge file with OmniWeb it stops after > (about) 18 minutes (elapsed time). Even if the bytes come in constantly. > It seems, that OmniWeb has a builtin limit of ~18 minutes download time. > Is this true, or is this another problem? I can verify this is NOT a problem with OmniWeb. I've downloaded things that take longer (anywhere from 30minutes to hours), and haven't had significant touble. On occasion, downloads to stall-out, but I attribute that to dropped connections and network troubles, and not to OmniWeb. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ARG! Broken AGAIN?! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EH1oA3.L7L@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 25 Sep 1997 03:27:38 GMT References: <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <607ljh$mpt$1@pith.uoregon.edu>, Sean Harding <sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu> wrote: >Alright...I just got my *second* Color Slab from DeepSpace Tech (the first >one froze at "testing system..."). This one doesn't power up at all. > Does it make any sort of noise when you fire it up? DId you try opening it and taking out the lithium battery, leaving it out overnight, and sticking it back in? -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: FTP vs HTTP Date: 26 Sep 97 12:19:00 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. http://www.crash.org Message-ID: <JASON.97Sep26121900@fisher.psych.uh.edu> References: <60dqlb$aci$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <342b6fb1.0@newsser1.gmsg.ch> In-reply-to: markus.rohner@gmsg.ch's message of 26 Sep 97 08:17:53 GMT Markus Rohner writes: When I try to download a huge file with OmniWeb it stops after (about) 18 minutes (elapsed time). Even if the bytes come in constantly. It seems, that OmniWeb has a builtin limit of ~18 minutes download time. Is this true, or is this another problem? Markus, I saw behavior similar to this with both OmniWeb and Netscape. Turned out to be the fault of the firewall. Are you downloading from behind an unusual network configuration? Jason Asbahr jason(@)crash.org
From: george@ee.ualberta.ca (Jason'Curious'George) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: 4.2 availability Date: 23 Sep 1997 16:25:13 GMT Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering Department Message-ID: <608qh9$m6c$2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Can someone confirm the availability of Openstep 4.2? I can't seem to locate much information about it from the NeXT homepage and the net resources I've found are vague at best. Information that I've sucked from colleagues is pretty contradictory. I'd like to buy the latest release of the full development environment on the academic discount. I'd prefer the full-on NeXT environment, but the NT environment will do if need be. The platform is x86. Can anyone offer any tangible information? Thanks in advance. --Jason j.b.george@ieee.org george@ee.ualberta.ca
From: rcattig # mindspring O com (Craig Attig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dumb Newbie NeXT TCP/IP Questions Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 03:48:02 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <342c7ded.396362529@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I took the cheap route out.. rather than getting a stripped down Pentium box/Video Card/Ethernet Card/CD/Monitor and installing Red Hat Linux so that I could play around with DNS/BIND and Apache and all those goodies, I dug my old black NeXT hardware out of the dungeon, dropped in 64MB, and plugged it in -- my God it still works!!! (Black/3.0/33MHz '40/64ram/636hd) I used to write some Objective-C once upon a time, but wasn't too knowledgable in regards to the lower level BSD stuff. It's time now. I'd like to get the machine to talk to my NT box. I've cabled the machines together and can ping the NeXT, telnet into it, etc, but only using the IP address. When I try to ftp from NeXT to NT (running the Vermillion FTP server on NT), the NeXT just sits there, stunned. It doesn't come back with a "unknown host" error or anything like that -- but it finally times out. I've made some NetInfo changes, but I'm not convinced that these have accomplished anything. Also made some changes to /etc/hosts, yet still this doesn't seem to do a whole lot. I'd ultimately like to get the NeXT talking to the Internet through a proxy server I run on the NT box. But I've gotta get these basic problems solved first (and understand them, too!). Any helpful advice out there from you folks who know NeXT way *way* better than I ever will? Thanks! - Craig Attig
From: rcattig # mindspring O com (Craig Attig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dumb Newbie NeXT TCP/IP Questions Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 05:31:53 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <342c99e0.2648658@news.mindspring.com> References: <342c7ded.396362529@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I've made some NetInfo changes, but I'm not convinced that these have >accomplished anything. Also made some changes to /etc/hosts, yet still >this doesn't seem to do a whole lot. After some more stumbling around with HostMgr, I was able to get the machine to talk to one another (hurrah!). Now I need to figure out BIND on NT. Then there's still the matter of the proxy server on NT -- any tips there?
From: anthony@fernandez.terranet.com (anthony fernandez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dumb Newbie NeXT TCP/IP Questions Date: 27 Sep 1997 12:10:53 GMT Organization: MediaOne -=- Northeast Region Message-ID: <60it4d$sj9$1@lwnws01.ne.highway1.com> References: <342c7ded.396362529@news.mindspring.com> <342c99e0.2648658@news.mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <342c99e0.2648658@news.mindspring.com> On 09/26/97, Craig Attig wrote: >>I've made some NetInfo changes, but I'm not convinced that these have >>accomplished anything. Also made some changes to /etc/hosts, yet still >>this doesn't seem to do a whole lot. > >After some more stumbling around with HostMgr, I was able to get the >machine to talk to one another (hurrah!). Now I need to figure out >BIND on NT. Then there's still the matter of the proxy server on NT -- >any tips there? > > Craig, There are no dumb questions. Anyway, this is how to setup a NextStep for intel on a LAN to communicate with the Internet via a Windows NT/95 based proxy. Under NeXTStep. Use HostManager.app--> Local to set up the following: IP address of the NeXTStep PC (local PC). Router address (the IP address of the NIC card on your Windows PC that is connected to your LAN) Netmask Hostname set the following to (you can always change them later on) Netinfo binding --> use local domain only NISDomain name ---> none Broadcast address ---> default Time Standard ---> Ignore network time Use HostManager.app--> Host to set up the IP address and hostname of the other PCs on your network. All you enter here is the host name and the respective IP address of the other PCs on the network. This enables you to use the host name to refer to the PCs instead of their IP address. edit /etc/resolv.conf domain your-domain.com nameserver ip-address of the proxy server (same as the router address) Now you have to setup your news reader and web-browser. If you are using Omniwed 2.7beta3 go to preferences and click on the second to the last icon, the one with the two monitors. Click add on the proxy server URL box and edit the default to the hostname of your windows NT -- remember the one you entered in HostManager.app--> Host. In the protocol box add http and ftp. That's it. News reader --- also very easy, I use NewsFlash. If you need to know how to set this up let me know. Windows PC My recommendation is a product called winproxy, which can be obtained from http://www.ositis.com. This is the easiest proxy/firewall server software for 95/NT. I think it is $45 for a 3 user license but does come with a 30 days free trial period. Of course you can also take a look at the following: 1) Wingate - very popular because of its free 1 user license (obviously)- not too easy to install but being rewritten to simplify the installation process. 2) Microsofts IIS (Internet Information Server) -- big Bucks Kind regards Anthony
From: sharding@crow.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NetInfo/Configure.app questions Date: 27 Sep 1997 19:43:15 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <60jnkj$5qn$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Hi there...OK, I got my system working...This system seems to be a whole different world from the Unix I'm used to :-) I have a ColorStation running NS 3.3. A couple of questions I couldn't find in any FAQ: In /private/adm/messages, I keep getting: Sep 27 11:09:38 crow syslog: can't open NetInfo parent domain How do I fix this? Also, when I go to NextAdmin and double-click Configure.app, it says that Configure.app is damaged and can't be run...What does this mean, and how is it corrected? I don't have the original install disks, so I can't re- install NS... Where is the user info stored? (I'm sure this must be in an FAQ *somewhere*, but I sure didn't find it). I looked in /etc/passwd, and it's not the place... /etc/groups doesn't seem to work in the normal manner either. Finally, does anyone know where I can get a binary version of sudo? asroot is not nearly as good...To the point of being unusable for my system. Any help on these things would be great sean
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Date: 28 Sep 1997 03:48:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <27562875419231@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: "Zam Syed" <zsyed@globalnet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ZIP Drives Date: 28 Sep 1997 14:08:42 GMT Message-ID: <01bccc18$2d0adfa0$645f7ec2@charlie-dont-su> Hi, Does anyone know if it possible to use a Parallel port Zip drive on an Intel with NeXTSTEP 3.3? Thanks,
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <60m67r$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <60m67r$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 28 Sep 1997 18:04:44 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60m67r$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: DHEA SEX LIKE 18<hart@sunbell.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 14:51:29 -0600 From: jbl@andrew.cmu.edu (John B. Lee) Subject: Running Color slab in Mono? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service Is it possible to run a Color Turbo slab in monochrome mode? I'd like to run with mono most of the time, and just switch to color when I really need to. This is, of course, assuming that mono is noticeable faster than color (like on my Mac). Does anyone have any insight into this? John Lee jbl@andrew.cmu.edu -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: abruce@peop.tdsnet.com (Angie ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help on hiding ip addresses for home user Date: 28 Sep 1997 21:08:32 GMT Organization: TDS Telecom - Madison, WI Message-ID: <60mh0g$qqa@news2.tds.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I did hours of searches using lots of different keywords, and was able to find out all about hiding, masquerading, etc. for networks. What would I need to be able to hide my IP address for home use ?? Software ?? Hardware ?? Thanks, Angie
From: ^tjw^@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody and SMP Date: 23 Sep 1997 14:10:50 -0700 Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <609b8q$pbl$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <pxpst2-1809971432280001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <3422ccb4.16657141@news.wco.com> <604fpi$6n0@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= writes: [...] > With all the fuss Sun makes about the Java hardware, I wonder if one could >implement a HW PostScript accelerator. Some kind of whizzy flashy fpu stack >machine with ...... Nay, probably not a good idea. Actually, PostScript apparently still uses fixed point math. We at Omni were wondering if there is any move afoot to move to using floating point now that the fpu on P5 and above machines (presumably incl PPC) are pretty damn fast. Heck, even game developers are switching to using the fpu instead of fixed-point since it is fast and then you get to use all of your CPU, not just the integer side. -- Remove the animals from my email address to respond via email. Hey spam kings ... parse these email addresses! postmaster@localhost postmaster@127.0.0.1 root@localhost root@127.0.0.1
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From: brockway+@cs.cmu.ee-dee-yoo (Jared Brockway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Running Color slab in Mono? Date: 29 Sep 1997 23:36:48 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon Univ. -- Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <60pe2g$5e4$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> References: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> In-Reply-To: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> On 09/28/97, John B. Lee wrote: >Is it possible to run a Color Turbo slab in monochrome mode? Try this: dwrite NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray That will change the workspace and all the applications to two bit gray next time you log in. Alternatively, you can set this default for individual applications only. -Jared
From: brockway@cs.cmu.ee-dee-yoo (Jared Brockway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Running Color slab in Mono? Date: 29 Sep 1997 23:49:35 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon Univ. -- Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <60peqf$5pt$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> References: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> <60pe2g$5e4$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <60pe2g$5e4$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Correction: dwrite -g NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray ^^ (if you want to set everything to two bit) This default is documented in the version 3.x AppKit class reference for Window. Sorry about that...
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From: Ryan Hughes <random@PoopDeck.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT computers Date: Sun, 28 Sep 1997 02:48:34 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970928024207.891A-100000@PoopDeck.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I just got an interesting opportunity to buy a NeXT system real cheap. Apparenly, a local High School won it in a Quiz Bowl contest a few years back and nobody knows how to use it. So I think I might be buying it. But there's a few things I wanna know, so I figured this newsgroup could give me some nice, biased opinions about NeXTs. First, I wanna know where I can get some info on prices, so I know what to shoot under. Anybody know where I might find that? But mostly, I wanna hear about the computer. I'm a Linux user, myself, and I wanna know how NeXTSTEP compares to that. I certainly hope it's closer to Linux than to MacOS, because I don't need my computer to be that condescending. I heard something about NeRDs - Registered Developers. Does that mean that NeXT follows the Mac philosophy of keeping your architecture secret so that development is really slow? With Linux, if somebody has a device they can't run, they write a driver for it. Under the mainstream philosophy (Windows, Mac), you wait for a monolithic corporation to tell you that it's okay to run your equipment. You have to wait until they write the driver. Is that so on the NeXT, or can you rewrite the kernel and compile it every day like on Linux? Also, as I understand it, NeXT is no more. Does that mean that nobody writes for NeXTSTEP anymore? Would I be limited to whatever's been ported right at the moment, or is it still alive? I guess that's all. I don't know. Tell me anything else that's cool about NeXT. Thank you --Ryan
From: Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT computers Date: 30 Sep 1997 14:00:07 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <60r0l7$kuk$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970928024207.891A-100000@PoopDeck.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970928024207.891A-100000@PoopDeck.org> On 09/27/97, Ryan Hughes wrote: > First, I wanna know where I can get some > info on prices, so I know what to shoot under. > Anybody know where I might find that? Sure, www.orb.com and www.deepspacetech.com both list prices for the *various* systems they sell. You'll need to find out whether it is a slab or cube, mono or color, turbo or not. All those are important factors in determining price. > But mostly, I wanna hear about the computer. > I'm a Linux user, myself, and I wanna know how > NeXTSTEP compares to that. I certainly hope it's > closer to Linux than to MacOS, because I don't > need my computer to be that condescending. It is more like Linux than MacOS. But it's more like nothing you've ever used, because it's unlike anything else out there. > Does that mean >that NeXT follows the Mac philosophy of keeping your architecture >secret so that development is really slow? With Linux, if somebody >has a device they can't run, they write a driver for it. Under >the mainstream philosophy (Windows, Mac), you wait for a monolithic >corporation to tell you that it's okay to run your equipment. Well, there have been some drivers written by 3rd parties, but I don't know all that much about it. There certainly aren't a *lot* of them, so my guess is that it is less easy than Linux, but then again its source code is not available. >You have to wait until they write the driver. Is that so on the >NeXT, or can you rewrite the kernel and compile it every day like >on Linux? Since you don't have the kernel source code you cannot compile it. That does not mean that you cannot write drivers. As I said, I don't know all that much about it, but I know that folks without access to the source have written drivers. > Also, as I understand it, NeXT is no more. Yes, they were bought by Apple, trying to save themselves from the Big Mistake back in the early 80s (followups to comp.sys.next.advocacy). The staff at Apple does have many prominent members of the former NeXT team, including Mr Jobs himself. > Does that mean that nobody writes for NeXTSTEP > anymore? Heh heh... no, it doesn't. When you've got the world's best development environment, you don't stop using it when the company is bought out. It is living on in OpenStep, and the new Rhapsody OS which is already out in Developer release. However, NeXT hardware will only run OpenStep (which may or may not have seen its final release) and will not run Rhapsody. If you want to see what has been released in the last *month* for NeXTStep, checkout http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ Then goto http://www.peak.org/next/ and start looking around. Then goto http://www.stepwise.com/ for more information on recent developments. Then goto http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ for a lot of NeXT-related bookmarks as well as the rest of my pages ;-) > Would I be limited to whatever's been ported right at the moment, or > is it still alive? If you are wondering if there is a chance that Quake or NetScrape might be ported, then no (there never was either for NS). However, new apps are currently being written all the time. If you want games, get a ToyOS; if you want a workstation, get a NeXT. > Tell me anything else that's cool about NeXT. NeXT isn't a company, or an Operating System. It's a way of thinking and living. It's wanting the best despite the problems. It's wanting the best look & feel, the best developing environment, and the best community of computer users. You won't find the radical fanatics like MacHeads (or some Linux folks I know ;-) nor the endless problems and gripes of the Win* world. You'll see a lot of people who are using NeXT for business and pleasure, who have spent the extra time and money to get what they consider the best the computing world has to offer. Or maybe it's just me.... but I don't think so. TjL, stepping down from the NeXT pulpit ;-) -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Running Color slab in Mono? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EHA1Hv.ELI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 15:53:54 GMT References: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <875475773.974@dejanews.com>, John B. Lee <jbl@emma.res.cmu.edu> wrote: >Is it possible to run a Color Turbo slab in monochrome mode? I'd like to >run with mono most of the time, and just switch to color when I really >need to. This is, of course, assuming that mono is noticeable faster than >color (like on my Mac). Does anyone have any insight into this? > I'm not sure that it's noticably faster but you can try dwrite SomeApplication NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGreay in a Terminal window. So you could, for example, make Terminal always mono. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Running Color slab in Mono? Date: 30 Sep 1997 17:41:42 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EHAJ9p.EJ1@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <875475773.974@dejanews.com> jbl@andrew.cmu.edu (John B. Lee) wrote: > Is it possible to run a Color Turbo slab in monochrome mode? I'd like to > run with mono most of the time, and just switch to color when I really > need to. This is, of course, assuming that mono is noticeable faster than > color (like on my Mac). Does anyone have any insight into this? The following should do the trick. In a Terminal window, give the command: dwrite GLOBAL NXWindowDepthLimit TwoBitGray (you'd have to restart apps to see the effect.) You can override this default on a per-app basis, e.g. dwrite OmniWeb NXWindowDepthLimit TwelveBitRGB [There is (or used to be) a free Preferences.app module named WindowDepth.preferences that offers an UI for this stuff. Last time I checked it was only available for Black hardware (so you're lucky:-). I tried contacting the author earlier this year (according to the info panel: "Gary Ritchie <gary@niagara.ucs.ualberta.ca>, NightShade Software") about providing a version for other architectures, but unfortunately his email address was invalid...] Lots of memory (>=32MB) doesn't hurt either ;-) Hope this helps, Tom. -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
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