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From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RS232 interface from black next? Date: 30 Jul 1997 19:41:07 -0700 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5rou03$vt@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5rmbom$kf4$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> In article <5rmbom$kf4$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> wasfy@pantheon.yale.edu (Michael W Ibrahim) writes: > As I understand it a RS232 interface is just a serial connection, so I > was wondering if there is any way to have one of the serial ports > on the Next emulate RS232. Easily done. The ports on a 68030 Cube are RS-422 balanced, and on the 68040 machines are RS-423 unbalanced, which is compatible with RS-232C. > I don't suppose it would be as simple as getting a cable with a > Next type plug on one end and a RS232 conection on the other---then > fire up kermit and start to experiment (if so, does anyone know where to > get such a cable? Or possibly provide the pin outs so I can have one > built?). That's exactly what you need. If you don't need hardware flow control, a Macintosh cable will work. If you need hardware flow control, you may need to get a custom cable built. (Does anyone still carry these as stock parts?) You can get the cable buidling details by typing 'man zs' (zs for Zilog Serial!) at a Terminal window, or from the back of the System Administration Handbook. -- Mike Paquette (mpaque AT wco.com ; Yank that .spa-am and nospam to reply.) Well, if there *were* anything to say, it would be with the understanding that the PR/Marketing people want to make the announcements on products, so anything I have to say wouldn't actually exist until after then, so what I might have to say now doesn't exist, and what I may say in future can't be said, so theoretically what exists, doesn't, for the immediate future. (With apologies to Joe Straczynski)
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Info] more NeXT style icons Date: 31 Jul 1997 14:38:28 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5rq814$1s7$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi~ If you want more NeXT, Mac, BeBox style icons, Here are my collections. Also my edtions included. ppai_Icon_1.tar.Z ~ ppai_Icon_9.tar.Z ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/ ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/ You will be like it. Maybe.. If you feel so pretty, Please send me mail with message "Very Good !" ^.^ Note: It should move to "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/graphics/icons/" and "ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/" directory. Thanks, younghoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail and MIME mail OK) redjade@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail and MIME mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai /qa (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody) (Also you can sentiment my gallery made with NeXT and PowerMac)
From: Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:30:38 -0400 Organization: Skidmore College Message-ID: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Peace, James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Zip tools for NeXT? Message-ID: <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ Date: Thu, 31 Jul 97 17:44:30 GMT I just got a Zip drive for my NeXTstation, and it works. I would like to give thanks to Radical System Solutions for preparing such a useful <A HREF="http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html"> FAQ</A> on how to hook up and use your Zip drive with a NeXT machine. Now, it says in the Mac documentation that you can write-protect, password-protect and unprotect Zip disks by using the Zip Tools that came with the drive. There is no physical way to do any of these things; it is all done through software. How can I do something as simple as write-protect a Zip disk using my NeXT? HELP! Thanks g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500/ITEM Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)math.rochester.edu> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Optional NeXT-applikations-menues in Rhapsody??? Date: 1 Aug 1997 02:21:44 GMT Message-ID: <19970801022100.WAA29696@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <EDw3Iv.9r@vergil.ping.de> Being able to reclaim the top 1/4" of my monitor is very important to me also. I won't purchase Rhapsody until I can get at all of my screen, have a clear desktop on which nothing can be accidentally dropped, and a means of knowing which applications are running at a glance, i.e. a dock with animated icons and ellipses. I would be willing to purchase these as third party commercial products or as shareware--it'd actually make a fabulous product for NeXT to put out. Kind of perverse, but poetic, no? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Info] more NeXT style icons Date: 1 Aug 1997 02:18:57 GMT Message-ID: <19970801021801.WAA13135@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5rq814$1s7$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Just out of curiosity--are there any laptop specific icons in OPENSTEP 4.2? Has anyone done any yet? If not, I guess I'll have to make some for my ThinkPad. It'd be nice if this sort of thing were automatically detected and accounted for--I'm still surprised that no one has gone into business selling IBM Aptiva Stealth's with OPENSTEP preinstalled as the spiritual successor of magnesium/black hardware. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: kiss@slip.net (Richard Kiss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Request for EOF Info Date: Thu, 31 Jul 1997 20:06:41 +0100 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <kiss-3107972006570001@sj-pm5-4-196.dialup.slip.net> We are considering using EOF and other Next technologies to assist development of our products. Our legacy application uses Oracle and other middleware. I would very much appreciate any comments about EOF in general, as well as comments about the topics below. (1) What are they key advantages and disadvantages of using EOF over homegrown code? How does it compare to other middleware? Any real world testimonials would be greatly welcome. (2) How efficient is it (speed and size)? (3) How robust is it? (4) How scalable is it? (5) Is it difficult to learn? (6) How difficult would it be to provide a C API for existing code? Our code is built using Sun's cc compiler. (7) We have a very wide distributed network, and would need to provide encryption for data that needs to travel over the Internet. How difficult would this be? How does distributed objects technology fit into this? If you post your reply, please cc: me. Richard Kiss kiss@mpath.nospam.com Please remove "nospam" to reply.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <5rrgoi$4144@webnt.uwsuper.edu> From: ddahlvan@staff.uwsuper.edu Date: 1 Aug 1997 02:13:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Superior Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.misc y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.misc y Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: rmah@angel.net (Robert S. Mah) Subject: Hacking NeXT hardware Organization: Angel Networks, Inc. Message-ID: <EE8qHF.Ks4@nonexistent.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 15:18:11 GMT I always loved the way NeXT boxes looked -- the cube, the slab, the monitor, the keyboard. But those old 040's...bleah. They seem so slow these days. So...given the inexpensive prices for used NeXT equipment, I was wondering if it would be possible to take the case and replace the innards with new equipment. I use a Mac at home, and luckily these days, you can even buy raw mother- boards (from Motorola) and use, pretty much off-the-shelf parts to build your own Mac. I'd like to try to do this using a NeXT cube or slab as the case. Does anyone know where I could find detailed schematics of the physical layout of the NeXT case? In addition, if I recall correctly, the monitor is attached using a special cable. Anyone know where I could find the pinouts and such for the monitor cable? Cheers, Rob
From: gh@middlemarch.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: GateKeeper not connecting Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 11:34:07 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <33E201EF.EDA@middlemarch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having problems trying to get PPP up and running. I installed GateKeeper 2.1 and PPP 2.2.046 on OPENSTEP 4.0/Intel. When I invoke GateKeeper's Dial command, I get: Timeout error while initializing the modem: Error 0 [Process exited - exit code 255] In the Preferences:Defaults:Dial init: dialog box, I tried several different commands including AT&F, AT&F2&D0, ATZ, and AT&F&D0. All of them returned the same message. I tried to use tip directly to see if I could connect. When I invoke tip -v phone-number, I get the following: Cannot synchronize with hayes... Cannot synchronize with hayes... [EOT] I have the Serial Port (v4.00) and the TTY Port Server (v4.00) drivers installed and set to COM1. And I am using an internal Supra Fax Voice modem. I am wondering if the problem is with my /etc/remote file. I have included it below. Any help in getting this to work properly would be appreciated. Thanks, --Greg BASIC|Basic setup:\ :el=^C^S^Q^U^D:ie=%$:oe=^D: # a9600|cua9600|Dial-out on cua at 9600 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cua:br#9600:tc=BASIC: b9600|cub9600|Dial-out on cub at 9600 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cub:br#9600:tc=BASIC: fa9600|cufa9600|Dial-out on cufa at 9600 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cufa:br#9600:tc=BASIC: fb9600|cufb9600|Dial-out on cufb at 9600 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cufb:br#9600:tc=BASIC: ttya9600|Hardwire on ttya at 9600 baud:\ :dv=/dev/ttya:br#9600:tc=BASIC: bb4800|Hardwire on ttyb at 4800 baud:\ :dv=/dev/ttyb:br#4800:tc=BASIC: bb1200|Hardwire on ttyb at 1200 baud:\ :dv=/dev/ttyb:br#1200:tc=BASIC: # # dial out on cufb with DCE of 28.8k and DTE of 38.4k # b288|cufa28800|Dial-out on cufa at 28800 baud:\ :dv=/dev/cufa:pa=none:br#38400:tc=BASIC: # # General dialer definitions used below # dial1200|1200 Baud Hayes attributes:\ :dv=/dev/cua:br#1200:at=hayes:du: dial300|300 Hayes attributes:\ :dv=/dev/cua:br#300:at=hayes:du: # # UNIX system definitions # UNIX-1200|1200 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\ :el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial1200: UNIX-300|300 Baud dial-out to another UNIX system:\ :el=^U^C^R^O^D^S^Q@:ie=#%$:oe=^D:tc=dial300: # tip0|tip1200:tc=UNIX-1200: tip300:tc=UNIX-300: cu0|cu300:tc=UNIX-300: cu1200:tc=UNIX-1200: dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#1200: b1200:tc=bb1200: b4800:tc=bb4800: #--------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Kevin Hoogheem" <kevin.hoogheem@utiligent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:23:40 -0500 Organization: Andersen Consulting - Minneapolis Message-ID: <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody Supported Machine Tony Man wrote in article <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com>... >Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? What >is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black hardware?
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 2 Aug 1997 03:38:37 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5rua3t$rh8$1@news.digifix.com> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> In-Reply-To: <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> On 08/01/97, "Kevin Hoogheem" wrote: > NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody >Supported Machine > Please cite your source... >Tony Man wrote in article <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com>... > >>Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? What >>is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black hardware? > > > -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
Message-ID: <33DE0E2C.644DF2D3@Novell.COM> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 09:37:16 -0600 From: Tony Wosnjuk <Tony_Wosnjuk@Novell.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reading Portuguese under NeXTMail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I receive a lot of mail from Brazil. They all use extended character when writing an email. QUESTION. How can I read the email with all characters intact? Is this possible? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Tony_Wosnjuk@Novell.COM or wosnjuk@enol.com
From: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 2 Aug 1997 15:03:18 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5rvi7m$cu6$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> You (Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com>) wrote in newsgroup comp.sys.next.software, on Thu, 31 Jul 1997 12:30:38 -0400: > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > Well, assuming that you correctly connected your Tandberg streamer to the SCSI-bus (termination set if it is the last device in line, otherwise disabled?), there should be no problem in accessing or using this streamer. You have to use the following devices "/dev/rst0" or "/dev/nrst0" with one of the following programs: "tar" or even better "gnutar" - for writing/reading tar-archives "mt" if you want to control (position, rewind etc.) the tape "cpio" - another sort of archiving program "dump / restore" for writing/restoring backups (Take a look at the man-pages of the above mentioned programs!) If you want the tape to automatically rewind to the beginning after writing or reading something, use the "/dev/rst0" device. Otherwise use the non- rewinding "/dev/nrst0" device. Some examples: gtar cvf /dev/nrst0 file1 file2... <--- puts some files into 1 tape archiv mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind <--- this rewinds the tape to the beginning gtar xvf /dev/nrst0 file1 file2... <--- restores back some files from tape archiv mt -f /dev/nrst0 fsf 2 <--- positions forward to the 3'rd tape archiv NOTE: When using the "mt back space count files (bsf)" option with a Tandberg QIC streamer, you have to use the following scheme in order to position correctly to the startmark of an archive: ...say your tape is at the beginning of the 5'th tar archive and you would like to position to the beginning of the 3'rd. Then you have to position 3 positions back and 1 forward to exactly hit the 3'rd mark! (see supplied script) Here is a little interactive shell-script program which uses "gnutar" and "mt" for storing/retrieving tar-archives etc.! You can put it somewhere in your execution path and make it executable, then you can use it in/from a terminal! ========================= CUT HERE ===================================== #!/bin/sh # @(#) Tapeutility v1.0; # @(#) (c) 1994 V.Kyriakides # @(#) Valentino Kyriakides: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de ### Change the following var-settings for your needs! TAR=/usr/bin/gnutar MT="/bin/mt -f" NTAPE=/dev/nrst0 TAPE=/dev/rst0 OPTREAD=xvf OPTWRITE=cvf ####################### Menues MainMenue () { clear echo "+--------------------+" echo "| T A P E u t i l |" echo "|--------------------|" echo "| a - About TAPEutil |" echo "| i - Info Settings |" echo "|--------------------|" echo "| c - Contents Menu |" echo "| p - Position Menu |" echo "| r - Read Menu |" echo "| w - Write Menu |" echo "| t - Tape Copy |" echo "| q - Quit to Shell |" echo "+--------------------+" echo -n "\nYour choice --> " } PosMenue () { clear echo "+-------------------------+" echo "| Tape Position |" echo "|-------------------------| " echo "| r - Rewind the tape |" echo "| f - Forward count files |" echo "| b - Back count files |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-------------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } ContentsMenue () { clear echo "+-------------------------+" echo "| Tape Contents |" echo "|-------------------------|" echo "| c - Count Archives |" echo "| a - List actual Archive |" echo "| l - List all Archives |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-------------------------+" echo "\nSelection ---> \c" } ReadMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Read |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| r - Read Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } WriteMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Write |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| w - Write Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } CopyMenue () { clear echo "+-----------------------+" echo "| Tape Copy |" echo "|-----------------------| " echo "| f - From Archive |" echo "| t - To Archive |" echo "| q - Quit this Submenu |" echo "+-----------------------+" echo -n "\nSelection ---> " } ####################### Quit stuff ... About () { clear echo "This is T A P E u t i l v.1.0" echo "(c) 1994 by V.Kyriakides" echo echo Return } ####################### Quit stuff ... Info () { clear echo "These are T A P E u t i l's actual settings:" echo "--------------------------------------------" echo echo "The used tape archiver is TAR=$TAR" echo "The used magnetic tape is MT=$MT" echo "The used nonrewinding tape device NTAPE is $NTAPE" echo "The used rewinding tape device TAPE is $TAPE" echo "$TAR 's read options are OPTREAD=$OPTREAD" echo "$TAR 's write options are OPTWRITE=$OPTWRITE" echo echo "--------------------------------------------" echo "NOTE: The above tape options and some others used in the script," echo "may be changed to fullfill other configurations, or your personal" echo "needs !" echo echo Return } ####################### Quit stuff ... Return () { echo -n "RETURN, please" read Key } ####################### Rewinding Rewind () { clear echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Tapestart reached!" echo "status: done" echo Return } ####################### Forward count steps Forward () { clear po=1 echo echo -n "Number of forward count steps [default=1] ? " read po if [ "$po" = "" ] then po=1 fi echo echo "status: Position Tape $po count steps forward..." echo $MT $NTAPE fsf $po 2>/dev/null if [ $? = "0" ] then echo "status: Tape position is now $po steps behind the previous position" echo "status: done" else echo "status: Tape reached during the forward positioning the End-Mark!" echo "status: (End-Mark reached) Positioning-Stop!" fi echo Return } ####################### Back count steps Back () { clear no=$1 po=$no echo echo -n "Number of back count steps [default=1] ? " read no po=$no if [ "$po" = "" ] then po=2 no=1 else po=`expr $po + 1` fi echo echo "status: Position Tape $no count steps back..." echo $MT $NTAPE bsf $po 2>/dev/null $MT $NTAPE fsf 1 2>/dev/null if [ $? = "0" ] then echo "status: Tape position is now $no steps before the previous position" echo "status: done" else echo "status: Tape reached during the back positioning the Tape-Start!" echo "Status: (Tape-Start reached) Positioning-Stop!" fi echo Return } ####################### Count Archives Count () { clear sel="_" echo -n "After performing the Archive count, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "Rewinding..."; $MT $TAPE rewind; echo "status: Tape-Start reached" no=0 echo "status: Search the Tape for Archive files..." while $MT $NTAPE fsf 1 2>/dev/null # Fehlerumleitung auf's Null-device do if [ $? = "0" ] then no=`expr $no + 1` fi done echo "=====================================" echo "The Tape contains ($no) Tar-Archives !" echo "=====================================" if [ $sel = 'n' ] then echo "status: Tape is now behind the last Tar-Archiv" else echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Tape-Start reached" fi echo "status: done" echo Return } ####################### Actual Archive List ActualList () { clear sel="_" echo -n "After listing the contents, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "The actual Tar-Archiv contains the following files..." echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" if [ $sel = 'n' ] then $TAR vtf $NTAPE 2>/dev/null # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken else $TAR vtf $TAPE 2>/dev/null # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken fi echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo Return } ####################### List Tape Contents List () { clear sel="_" no=0 echo -n "After listing the contents, [r]ewind or [n]ot rewind the Tape ? " read sel echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind while : do ans=`$TAR vtf $NTAPE 2>/dev/null` # Fehlermeldung aufs Null-device umlenken if [ "$ans" = "" ] then echo "status: ...no more Tar-Archives found" echo "================================================" echo "The Tape contains ($no) Tar-Archives !" echo "================================================" if [ $sel = 'r' ] then echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind 2>/dev/null echo "status: Tape-Start reached" else echo "status: Tape is now behind the last Tar-Archiv" fi echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else no=`expr $no + 1` echo echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "The $no 'Tar-Archiv contains the following files..." echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "$ans" echo "---------------------------------------------------------------------" echo echo "status: ...search for another Archive..." fi done Return } ####################### Read Tape Archive ReadArchiv () { clear echo if [ "$1" = "" ] then echo -n "Welches Tar-Archiv (1,..,n) soll gelesen werden [Enter=aktuelles]? " read POS no=$POS if [ "$POS" = "" ] then echo echo "status: Aktuelles Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPTREAD $NTAPE echo echo "status: Band befindet sich hinter dem eben gelesenen Tar-Archiv!" else echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an das $no'te Tar-Archiv..." if [ "$POS" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: Das $no'te Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPT $TAPE sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" fi echo "status: done" echo else POS=$1 no=$POS echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an das $no'te Tar-Archiv..." if [ "$no" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: Das $no'te Tar-Archiv wird gelesen..." echo $TAR $OPT $TAPE sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" echo "status: done" echo fi Return } ####################### Write Tape Archive WriteArchiv () { clear FILES=$1 clear echo if [ "$1" = "" ] then echo echo "Welche Datei(en)...sollen aufs Band geschrieben werden [Enter=Abbruch]?" echo echo -n "=> " read FILES echo if [ "$FILES" = "" ] then echo echo "status: Abbruch, keine Datei(en) geschrieben!" echo exit 1 else set $FILES fi fi ABBRUCH="" for i do if [ ! -r $i ] then echo "status: kann $i nicht finden!" ABBRUCH=1 fi done if [ "$ABBRUCH" = "1" ] then echo "status: Abbruch, keine Datei(en) geschrieben" echo exit 1 fi FILES=$* if [ -r $FILES ] then echo -n "An welche Bandposition (1,..,n) soll geschrieben werden [default=aktuelle]? " read POS no=$POS if [ "$POS" = "" ] then echo echo "$FILES werden an die aktuelle Bandposition geschrieben..." echo $TAR $OPTWRITE $NTAPE $FILES echo echo "status: Band befindet sich hinter dem eben geschriebenen Tar-Archiv!" else echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind sleep 3 echo "status: Positioniere das Band an die $no'te Bandposition..." if [ "$POS" = 1 ] then echo else POS=`expr $POS - 1` $MT $NTAPE fsf $POS 2>/dev/null echo fi echo "status: $FILES werden an die $no'te Bandposition geschrieben..." echo $TAR $OPT $NTAPE $FILES sleep 3 echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Bandanfang erreicht" fi echo "status: done" echo fi Return } ####################### Tape Copy From CopyFrom () { clear DIR=~/tmp clear echo "KOPIE VOM BAND AUF DIE FESTPLATTE" echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind mkdir $DIR if test -w $DIR then echo "status: habe $DIR zur Dateiaufnahme angelegt!" cd $DIR else echo "FEHLER: Das Verzeichnis $DIR konnte nicht angelegt werden," echo "evtl. haben Sie keine Zugriffsrechte fuer diese Operation!" echo echo "Druecken sie <Return> fuer Programmabbruch!" read DUMMY echo Return fi no=0 echo "status: Bandarchive in $DIR schreiben..." echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" while : do dd if=$NTAPE of=tpfile$no bs=10k if [ ! -s tpfile$no ] then rm tpfile$no echo "status: ...Bandlesefehler, habe keine weitere Datei gefunden" echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Das Band befindet sich am Bandanfang" echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else echo echo "status: vom Band ==> tpfile$no geschrieben..." echo no=`expr $no + 1` fi done Return } ####################### Tape Copy To CopyTo () { DIR=~/tmp clear echo "KOPIE VON DER FESTPLATTE AUF DAS BAND" echo echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind if test -r $DIR then echo "status: springe ins Verzeichnis $DIR" cd $DIR else echo "FEHLER: Das Verzeichnis $DIR wurde nicht gefunden!" echo echo "Druecken sie <Return> fuer Programmabbruch!" read DUMMY echo exit 1 fi no=0 echo "status: Dateien aufs Band schreiben..." echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" while : do if [ ! -f tpfile$no ] then echo echo "status: keine weitere Datei gefunden" echo "----------------------------------------------------------------------------" echo "Rewinding..." $MT $NTAPE rewind echo "status: Das Band befindet sich am Bandanfang" echo "status: done" echo exit 1 else echo echo "status: tpfile$no ==> Band schreiben..." echo dd if=tpfile$no of=$NTAPE bs=10k no=`expr $no + 1` fi done Return } ####################### Access Contents Menu Contents () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do ContentsMenue read Item case $Item in 'c') Count;; 'a') ActualList;; 'l') List;; '') echo "Nothhing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Positioning Menu Position () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do PosMenue read Item case $Item in 'r') Rewind;; 'f') Forward;; 'b') Back;; '') echo "Nothhing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Read Menu Read () { Item="_" while [ $Item != 'q' ] do ReadMenue read Item case $Item in 'r') ReadArchiv;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Write Menu Write () { ItemL="_" while [ $ItemL != 'q' ] do WriteMenue read ItemL case $ItemL in 'w') WriteArchiv;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Access Copy Menu Copy () { ItemL="_" while [ $ItemL != 'q' ] do CopyMenue read ItemL case $ItemL in 'f') CopyFrom;; 'f') CopyTo;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Item="_"; Return;; esac done } ####################### Main Thing="_" while [ $Thing != 'q' ] do MainMenue read Thing case $Thing in 'a') About;; 'i') Info;; 'c') Contents;; 'p') Position;; 'r') Read;; 'w') Write;; 't') Copy;; '') echo "Nothing selected"; Thing="_"; Return;; esac done ========================= CUT HERE ===================================== Hope this helps? Valentino ________________________________________________________________ Valentino Kyriakides Universitaet Hamburg, FB. Informatik Arbeitsbereich Softwaretechnik ________________________________________________________________ E-Mail: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de (ASCII, MIME) NeXTmail: Valentino_Kyriakides@public.uni-hamburg.de ________________________________________________________________
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Seek Software for glossy prints on NeXT Color Printer Date: 2 Aug 1997 20:12:34 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5s0sv2$5q6@slip.net> Hi, About 6 weeks ago someone sold a NeXT Color Printer on c.s.n.m and said they had special software for printing to glossy paper from a NeXT Color Printer. He said that photo quality was possible when one used it. Ah, I emailed the seller and inquired about the software but he didn't respond. Ah, now that I have a NeXT Color Printer of my own, could someone suggest where I might find this sort of software? Thanks, Emmett
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <2376869976046@digifix.com> Date: 3 Aug 1997 03:53:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Carl Jabido <cjabido@npl.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 01:35:48 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> <5rua3t$rh8$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 08/01/97, "Kevin Hoogheem" wrote: > > NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody > >Supported Machine > > > > Please cite your source... Can't cite a source, but I'm pretty sure he's right. In fact, Apple won't even be supporting NuBus PowerMacs! They're only supporting PCI PowerMacs, in other words, Macs made in the last two years or so. At least that's the buzz on the Mac groups. Carl > > >Tony Man wrote in article <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com>... > > > >>Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? > What > >>is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black > hardware? > > > > > > > > -- > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 3 Aug 1997 06:05:45 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5s173p$l9$1@news.digifix.com> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> <5rua3t$rh8$1@news.digifix.com> <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> In-Reply-To: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> On 08/02/97, Carl Jabido wrote: >Scott Anguish wrote: >> >> On 08/01/97, "Kevin Hoogheem" wrote: >> > NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody >> >Supported Machine >> > >> >> Please cite your source... > >Can't cite a source, but I'm pretty sure he's right. In fact, >Apple won't even be supporting NuBus PowerMacs! They're only >supporting PCI PowerMacs, in other words, Macs made in the >last two years or so. At least that's the buzz on the Mac >groups. But the "NuBus Macs won't be supported" arguement isn't really valid here. Apple is supporting NuBus PowerMacs with upgrades to MacOS 8... Its total end of Line for all black hardware owners as far as OpenStep goes if there isn't an upgrade. The NeXT hardware drivers are already written for the version of Mach that is shipping with OpenStep. This is not the case with NuBus PowerMacs. There is no third party video on NeXT hardware. Very small and stable base as far as what to support, and its already written. This is not the case with the NuBus PowerMac video cards. Note that I'm note seriously effected by this (the black hardware I have will simply be moved to other duty), and I do understand that an end-of-life is expected as far as this is concerned... The hardware is old. Its been several years since it was discontinued.. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: rksingh@onr.com (Rajib Singh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.2: Installation Questions Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 08:19:43 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <33e43ef6.2982824@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Hi! I'm having some difficulties installing OpenStep 4.2 onto my Pentium 133 (on a Triton II motherboard). I have a S3/Virge VX video card, IDE hard drive, ATAPI CD drive, 48 megs of memory and an 850 meg partition on my hard drive for OpenStep. It looks like I have successfully gotten through the first part of the install. When I reboot the computer, everything looks normal but then the monitor will go black and the system seems to hang. I saw that this is a known issue and that typing '-v' should resolve it. I have tried that and it didn't work. When the CD is not in the drive, I get a window in the center of my screent that is titled "Alert." I can type in normal Unix commands in this window but I cannot get to the OpenStep GUI. HotBot and DejaNews searches didn't turn up anything useful. Also, are there any good introductory books that you would reccomend for OpenStep? Thanks in advance, Rajib Singh rksingh@onr.com
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: Want More Dates???<tracy78@kilgrona.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5s21te$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Control: cancel <5s21te$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Date: 03 Aug 1997 13:46:00 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5s21te$2e1@chronicle.concentric.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Robert C. Doss Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Windows Keys in OS 4.1? Date: 1 Aug 1997 00:15:47 GMT Organization: California State University, Sacramento Message-ID: <5rr9rj$ccv@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> I recently upgraded to OPENSTEP Release 4.1 for Mach on an Intel system and was under the impression that OS 4.x supported the "Windows" keys on modern 104-key keyboards like those found on the Microsoft Natural Keyboard. I want to use these keys as the command keys yet when I try using the USA, NeXTUSA, or NeXTClassicUSA neither one of these seem to recognize the "Windows" keys. I've searched NeXTAnswers to see if they had any 4.x keyboard drivers besides the PS2Keyboard driver that came on the OPENSTEP CD-ROM but did not find any. -- Robert C. Doss, Jr. California State University, Sacramento <dossr@csus.edu> <http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr> Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Reading MIME mail from NeXTMail ? Date: 3 Aug 1997 19:41:56 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Message-ID: <5s2mu4$cqk@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Is there any PD/freeware/shareware extension which enable the NeXTMail.app to receive and view MIME mail ? Thanks Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
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From: dessart@moebius.qc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.apple2,comp.sys.be.misc,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.windows.misc,comp.os.linux.m68k,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.misc Subject: [ANN] "Wake Up Apple!" Web Page Date: 3 Aug 97 19:08:31 -0400 Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada Message-ID: <B00A8812-1D0CBC@205.151.119.246> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bedevtalk@be.com, "Jesse" <jhunte@po-box.mcgill.qc.ca>, "Robert" <rdj@cam.org>, "Sean" <cwatson@cam.org>, "Yannik" <grignon@moebius.qc.ca>, "Yannik K" <koehler@moebius.qc.ca> Cc: dessart@moebius.qc.ca nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.amiga.programmer, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.amiga.advocacy, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.apple2, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.be.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.macintosh, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.mac.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.newton.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.powerpc.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.windows.ms.programmer, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.windows.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.os.linux.m68k, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc, nntp://nntp.hip.cam.org/comp.os.misc After seeing many posts on BeDevTalk about people's dissatisfaction with Apple's "business" procedures, and relations with users and developers, I've decided to create a web page to send a strong message to Apple about what everyone else thinks of this. The page is called "Wake Up Apple!", and the URL is: <http://www.cam.org/~dessart/WakeUpApple/> Now why am I writing this, spamming everyone's mail boxes? Not because I'm evil and want to sell you something, but because I want everyone's voice to appear on the "Wake Up Apple!" pages, so that the opinions expressed therein are not solely my own or that of my acquaintances and friends. I invite you all to see what I have so far, offer suggestions, and send your ideas on what Apple should be doing, and what you'd like to see them do. Many of your opinions will be posted up, categorized into the following categories: MacOS: MacOS user MacOS developer MacOS development house BeOS: BeOS user BeOS developer BeOS development house Other (includes linux, mklinux, and MS-OS people too): Other user Other developer Other development houses When you send an opinion, please include what category you fit into. That way I can easily put the page together, and it'll be all nicely divvied up, so if Apple decides to take a peek, they can see who's saying what. I'll also be including articles from "Wake Up Apple!" readers, depending on content, as well as starting a "Wake Up Apple!" program, where an icon will be available for your web page. All those who display the icon will be listed on the page. Note: This isn't ready yet, I haven't got an icon. Submissions, however, will be considered, and who knows, I might make a contest out of it! So, please visit the site, make suggestions, send me your opinions, and please, if you can, forward this letter to friends, colleagues and mailing lists so they can help out too! James Dessart, provider of the "Wake Up Apple!" website
From: David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 3 Aug 1997 23:28:34 GMT Organization: NEXTTOYOU (http://www.nexttoyou.de) Message-ID: <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> In article <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> Carl Jabido <cjabido@npl.org> writes: > Scott Anguish wrote: > > > > On 08/01/97, "Kevin Hoogheem" wrote: > > > NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody > > >Supported Machine > > > > > > > Please cite your source... > > Can't cite a source, but I'm pretty sure he's right. In fact, > Apple won't even be supporting NuBus PowerMacs! They're only > supporting PCI PowerMacs, in other words, Macs made in the > last two years or so. At least that's the buzz on the Mac > groups. Shortly after the Apple/NeXT merger, a "Letter to NeXT customers" told us the following: "NeXT will continue to sell and support all of our existing products, and we will continue to offer cross-platform support." What gives? David Andel NEXTTOYOU Magazine -- -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible)
From: "Hunter Hillegas" <timebomb@west.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 3 Aug 97 18:45:56 +0000 Organization: West.Net Communications Message-ID: <B00A826A-9C43@205.254.225.28> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable nntp://news.west.net/comp.sys.next.misc According to Apple, only systems that were in production after January 4, 1997 will be supported. This is only PCI PowerMacs except for the Powerbook 1400 which is not PCI but will be supported... Hunter
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Reading MIME mail from NeXTMail ? Date: 4 Aug 1997 01:24:19 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s3b03$75a$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5s2mu4$cqk@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk In <5s2mu4$cqk@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Wong Sai-kee wrote: > Is there any PD/freeware/shareware extension which enable the NeXTMail.app > to receive and view MIME mail ? No... Mail.app in NS 3.3 and later can handle MIME. There are other apps out there which can do MIME, such as Eloquent, but I don't know much about them. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat peak org> (add punctuation to email me) 'The biggest problem I have is that all my memory is "Random Access"' - me, after the midterm exam
From: bob@columbia.uark.edu(Bob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PGP for OS4.2 Date: 4 Aug 1997 03:34:47 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Message-ID: <5s3ikn$f25@picayune.uark.edu> I know this was discusses a while back, but I seem to have lot the postings. Does anyone know how to configure PGP 2.6.2 for use on a black machine running OS4.2? I followed the advice in setup.txt, but I was unable to get anything to work. Bob
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From: hoelzl.gps@t-online.de (Ruth Lütticken) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to create polish texts with NeXTstep 3.3 (Intel/Mach) Date: 4 Aug 1997 08:28:31 GMT Organization: Hans Hoelzl Message-ID: <5s43rf$vir$2@news01.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My problem: I want to create polish documents with NeXT. To do this I need some polish characters like the "e" with garcon (I dont know the exact name). Possible solutions: a) I have a polish postscript-font. I copied it into the LocalLibrary/Fonts/MyFont directory and named it MyFont and MyFont.afm . After running "buildafm /LocalLibrary/Fonts" the font "MyFont" is available in the font dialogbox but the characters are the same as in Helvetica. b) I read something about "CompositeChars". It should be possible to combine two characters to a new one. This is done in the .afm-file . But I didn't succeed in combining a letter with an accent (At least in DisplayPostscript; I never tried it on a printer). c) Another idea from you. Robert Hoelzl
From: dessart@moebius.qc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [ANN] "Wake Up Apple!" Web Page Date: 4 Aug 97 12:13:01 -0400 Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada Message-ID: <B00B7A18-757EA@198.168.101.169> References: <19970804154601.LAA11129@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "WillAdams" <willadams@aol.com> >I take it that NeXT users don't rate their own category? Not yet, unfortunately, there's no NeXT for the PowerPC, HOWEVER, there IS linux for the PowerPC, and THEY didn't get their own section! :) >I want a NeXTStep interface in Rhapsody, and all of the tools I consider >essential, i.e. Digital Webster, Oxford, etc. I'll make sure to put that up in the Other category, listing you as a NeXT user! Have you seen the Rhapsody screen shots that Apple has up? I believe that they might be making a good ol' NeXT interface module... the interface IS really modular, isn't it? BTW, Rhapsody's Yellow Box API will be identical to the original OPENSTEP API. I was checking out the programmer's documentation page, and they said "Here's the OPENSTEP API documentation, this is exactly what you have to work with." So it'll just need a recompile, most likely... >But, then again, I have all that in OPENSTEP now, don't I? Yep, you do... but who knows what Apple's going to do with OPENSTEP, maybe all they're doing is renaming it the Yellow Box, or Rhapsody API. James Provider of the "Wake Up Apple!" website <http://www.cam.org/~dessart/WakeUpApple/>
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [ANN] "Wake Up Apple!" Web Page Date: 4 Aug 1997 15:46:40 GMT Message-ID: <19970804154601.LAA11129@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <B00A8812-1D0CBC@205.151.119.246> I take it that NeXT users don't rate their own category? I want a NeXTStep interface in Rhapsody, and all of the tools I consider essential, i.e. Digital Webster, Oxford, etc. But, then again, I have all that in OPENSTEP now, don't I? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Carl Jabido <cjabido@npl.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 20:04:05 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <33E66DF5.7F70@npl.org> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> <5rtnps$6q7@nsmmfs04.cscoe.ac.com> <5rua3t$rh8$1@news.digifix.com> <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s173p$l9$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > But the "NuBus Macs won't be supported" arguement isn't really > valid here. > > Apple is supporting NuBus PowerMacs with upgrades to MacOS > 8... Its total end of Line for all black hardware owners as far as > OpenStep goes if there isn't an upgrade. Unfortunately, Apple has a 'policy' of reducing the hardware platforms with each major OS release. MacOS 7.? stopped support for some macs (I think they were 68000 and 020?). MacOS 8.0 has stopped support for 68030's. Rhapsody will only support PCI PPC Macs. The MacOS will continue after Rhapsody's introduction, following a development line similar to Win95/WinNT. So I'm guessing MacOS 9 may drop support for 68040 Macs. Seeing how Apple now owns NeXT, I'm sure that they'll be including Rhapsody in this policy. Black hardware won't have any new OS's after OS4.2 and they're joining the growing ranks of Macs that are no longer supported...Sorry!! But that's no reason not to run them... I've got a Colorstation, PC and Mac. I'm planning on using the NeXT as a file server as it can talk to both the PC and Mac in they're native network protocols. Plus it's Unix so it's much more stable than Win95 or MacOS. I've just gotta wire the house up with 10BaseT wire to let the 2 PC's, my PowerMac8100, and the NeXT to talk together. Can't wait. Carl
From: shudder@spam.gate.net (Craig Hoffman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NE2000 w/ OpenStep4.2? Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 20:21:52 GMT Organization: Lockheed Martin M & S, Sunnyvale, CA Message-ID: <5s5duq$4b0@butch.lmms.lmco.com> Does anyone know if OS4.2 is compatable with the Linksys Ether16 card? The card works fine in Linux/Win95 as a NE2000 compatable card. There only seems to be a few different manufacturers available (SMC, Cogent, etc), but no NE2000.... Thanks! Craig infinity@linuxware.com shudder@gate.net
From: Karsten Winkovics <kmw@gate.adtranz.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: licensing question Date: 5 Aug 1997 07:56:03 GMT Organization: Adtranz (Deutschland) GmbH, Nuernberg Message-ID: <5s6maj$knf$1@gate.adtranz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, folks, I'm about to buy a second hand NeXTstation, what is the policy re the OS? I seem to recall that with the old black hardware you automatically acquired an OS license, the limiting factor being the size of the hard drive ordered. The machine in question will be running NS3.3. TIA for feedback. -- Karsten Winkovics ABB Daimler-Benz Transportation (Deutschland) GmbH N/KI2 RTC Nahverkehr/Light Rail Vehicles karsten_winkovics@notes.adtranz.de rsp. kmw@adtranz.de
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 11:42:17 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EEFv6J.ApG@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <33E66DF5.7F70@npl.org> In article <33E66DF5.7F70@npl.org> Carl Jabido <cjabido@npl.org> writes: > Unfortunately, Apple has a 'policy' of reducing the hardware platforms > with each major OS release. MacOS 7.? stopped support for some macs > (I think they were 68000 and 020?). MacOS 8.0 has stopped support for > 68030's. MacOS7 will run on anything other than the REALLY ancient machines. Given that 68020's predate the 386's I don't really think it's such a hardship that they won't be able to run MacOS8. Apple have been outstanding at supporting old hardware - that you can take a Mac from the late 80's and run the latest OS, quite reliably is remarkable. Just try talking to MS about why your 286 won't run NT... In the Windows world, anything older than about 2 years is obsolete. Having said that I'd really like some support to allow my NeXTStation to be used as a DPS term onto a more powerfull Rhapsody machine. $an
From: free4you@aol.com (free4you) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5rsle9$ht6@world1.bawave.com> Control: cancel <5rsle9$ht6@world1.bawave.com> Date: 4 Aug 1997 14:44:44 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-5rsle9$ht6@world1.bawave.com> Please cancel this posting
From: gh@middlemarch.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 56K modems Date: Tue, 05 Aug 1997 12:31:19 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <33E75557.6605@middlemarch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had success using 56K Flex modems? If so, what brands are known to work with NEXTSTEP and what brands should be avoided? Also, where is a good source to purchase them? --gh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Zip tools for NeXT? Message-ID: <1997Aug6.155410.4749@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ References: <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 97 15:54:10 GMT In article <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, >Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email> wrote: >>How can I do something as simple as write-protect a Zip disk using my >>NeXT? HELP! > > I seem to recall a utility for white hardware that would do this, but that's >all. It should be possible to write one using the generic SCSI driver but no >one has gotten around to it yet (I downloaded the source to the Linux Iomega >tools but that's as far as I got.) I downloaded that code, too. It actually compiles straight away on NeXT with no warnings. (I have black hardware; only tried gcc, but NeXT's cc may also work). But it doesn't work properly. I think this may be an endian problem, or a difference in the SCSI parameters, but I haven't sorted it out yet. Best g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500/ITEM Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)math.rochester.edu> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 6 Aug 1997 17:31:44 GMT Message-ID: <01bca28d$d8dafd10$07ac2ac0@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Jobs' Keynote in RealAudio Date: 6 Aug 1997 23:24:02 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sb12i$4ul$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jobs' keynote speech is available in RealAudio.... I don't have any way to hear RealAudio. I'm already bitter enough that I couldn't get back home to go to the shindig in Boston, would anyone be willing to convert it to .snd or some other format that I could actually listen to on my NeXT? (or port a RealAudio player to OpenStep) http://www.apple.com/home/news/macworld97/keynote.html I'd be very happy if someone could do this for me.... TjL ps -- yes the email address is valid.
From: Jeff Jolley <jeff@ore-inc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: test...sorry Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 17:31:36 -0600 Organization: Owners' Resorts and Exchange Message-ID: <33E90958.3EF2F89A@ore-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ...
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: MS invests in Apple Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 7 Aug 1997 01:04:17 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sb6uh$ffd$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5sb188$rio$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY In <5sb188$rio$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu wrote: > So it was all a scheme to allow MS to develop for NEXTSTEP without Gates > putting pins in his eyes since it's not NEXTSTEP anymore. $150M can buy a > lot of crappy software and crashing hardware. Here's hoping it doesn't. Well, it could be... I think Gates wants Apple to live .... maybe not thrive, but live.. see .sig Pls note followups. There's already a lot of this discussion going on there.... TjL ps -- Hey Paul, think you could trim the 21-line .sig just a bit? -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: test...sorry Date: 7 Aug 1997 01:09:54 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sb792$ffd$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33E90958.3EF2F89A@ore-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jeff@ore-inc.com,ore@XMISSION.COM a) this is not alt.test b) if this is a test as in 'prepare to be spammed', think very carefully about it. It is not needed, appreciated, or accepted. It will be reported upstream and to the spam-fighting lists (including the ones who prompted the IDP against UUNet). TjL
From: Paul.J.Buckley@columbia.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: MS invests in Apple Date: 6 Aug 1997 23:27:04 GMT Organization: Columbia University Message-ID: <5sb188$rio$1@apakabar.cc.columbia.edu> So it was all a scheme to allow MS to develop for NEXTSTEP without Gates putting pins in his eyes since it's not NEXTSTEP anymore. $150M can buy a lot of crappy software and crashing hardware. Here's hoping it doesn't. -- _____________________________ Paul Buckley, M.D., Ph.D. 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: Paul.Buckley@columbia.edu Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _____________________________ Bernie Sanders: Does this concern you, the fact that we today have, by far, the most unequal distribution of wealth and income in the industrialized world? Alan Greenspan: Yes, the answer is it does concern me. It's not clear to me what monetary policy can do to alter that in any material way. In testimony before the House Banking Committee's Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy, March 5, 1997.
From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 4 Aug 1997 21:13:56 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> David Andel <da_vid@next_to_you.de> wrote in article <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de>... > In article <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> Carl Jabido <cjabido@npl.org> writes: > > Scott Anguish wrote: > > > > > > On 08/01/97, "Kevin Hoogheem" wrote: > > > > NO apple has stated that you will need to upgrade to a Rhapsody > > > >Supported Machine > > > > > > > > > > Please cite your source... > > > > Can't cite a source, but I'm pretty sure he's right. In fact, > > Apple won't even be supporting NuBus PowerMacs! They're only > > supporting PCI PowerMacs, in other words, Macs made in the > > last two years or so. At least that's the buzz on the Mac > > groups. > > Shortly after the Apple/NeXT merger, a "Letter to NeXT customers" told us the > following: > > "NeXT will continue to sell and support all of our existing products, and we > will continue to offer cross-platform support." > > What gives? > Hmmm... I think taking what companies have to say word by word is extremely naive. Companies that stick to what they say are an exception in this world of deceptions. I don't think Apple cares beans for original NeXT customers and users. After all, they have their 50 million users and so long as they rip off technology from NeXT and present this technology to their users and tout it as "the next generation mac technology" they'll be fine. A classic case, may I say, of technological rape. > David Andel > NEXTTOYOU Magazine > -- > -> remove all "_" from my address to email me <- > > "...he said Captain, I said wot" (Captain Sensible) >
From: gougi@xslip.net (Stavros) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT mono system web auction - 1st bid $100.00 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 00:24:29 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <gougi-ya023580000708970024290001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Folks I'm finally (reluctantly) sellimg my NeXT mono station - So head out to > HTTP://www.cityauction.com/item.asp?ID=100201 and place your bids. Here's a short description... > NeXT 040 25 Mhz Mono Workstation w/ 500 Mb HD loaded with Nextstep v3.2 > and additional software, 8Mb > RAM, bright 17 Megapixel Monitor, Keyboard and non-ADB mouse + cables. > Excellent condition. PS: If E-mailing me please REMOVE "X" from my E-mail address..I Hate spamming.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: licensing question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EEHwww.M0G@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:14:56 GMT References: <5s6maj$knf$1@gate.adtranz.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5s6maj$knf$1@gate.adtranz.de>, Karsten Winkovics <kmw@gate.adtranz.de> wrote: >Hello, folks, > >I'm about to buy a second hand NeXTstation, what is the policy re the OS? I >seem to recall that with the old black hardware you automatically acquired >an OS license, the limiting factor being the size of the hard drive ordered. > You acquire a license for the version of the OS that shipped with the machine; as I recall you always had to pay an upgrade fee. So you could run 2.x with no legal problems but running 3.3 would require specific licensing. It's possible that the seller has taken care of this for you. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 7 Aug 1997 18:13:51 GMT Message-ID: <01bca35d$af4ee300$94029ac3@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
From: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Jobs' Keynote in RealAudio Date: 7 Aug 1997 19:56:35 GMT Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> References: <5sb12i$4ul$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> And many others too! Timothy J. Luoma (nospam+next@luomat.peak.org) wrote: : Jobs' keynote speech is available in RealAudio.... : I don't have any way to hear RealAudio. : I'm already bitter enough that I couldn't get back home to go to the shindig : in Boston, would anyone be willing to convert it to .snd or some other format : that I could actually listen to on my NeXT? (or port a RealAudio player to : OpenStep) : http://www.apple.com/home/news/macworld97/keynote.html : I'd be very happy if someone could do this for me.... : TjL : ps -- yes the email address is valid.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Jobs' Keynote in RealAudio Date: 7 Aug 1997 23:46:31 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sdmon$q2o$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5sb12i$4ul$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: devan2m@imap2.asu.edu In <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu wrote: > > And many others too! Someone has (rightly) mentioned that the resultant file would be quite large. I know this is true, but would still be interested in it. TjL -- Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest in Apple than that is highly-optimistic.
From: <sales@golightspeed.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Lightspeed Promotional Offer Date: 8 Aug 1997 05:00:13 GMT Organization: Lightspeed Technology Message-ID: <5se94t$or9$44@news.pacificrim.net> Bellingham, WA - August 7, 1997 - Lightspeed Technology today announced a special promotional offer that will give their customers a free 33.6 PCMCIA Data/Fax modem with the purchase of a new Lightspeed laptop computer. The free modem will be included on all 7200 and 8700 series laptop purchases through September 30, 1997. The campaign was launched to help promote the Lightspeed 8700 series PentiumŽ laptop as well as the new high end 7200 series that can now be purchased with a 233Mhz Intel PentiumŽ Processor. In addition to blazing speeds, the 7200 offers 512k cache on board, a 4MB graphics card and an outstanding 13.3" XGA active matrix 1024 X 768 video display. The 233 MHz is currently being offered at a special price and a 4-year on-site warranty is also available on all Lightspeed purchases. Lightspeed Technology offers a full range of Pentium laptop configurations and provides speeds ranging from 133MHz to 233Mhz with MMX technology in various models. Complete 32-bit Windows NT workstations are also available. A full range of accessories including cellular compatible modems, ac car adapters and additional hard drives are also available. U.S. Sales: 1-800-234-8836. Outside U.S. 1-360-671-7662. Press information contact: William Roach Marketing Director (360)/671-7662 wroach@golightspeed.com
From: owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Fri, 08 Aug 1997 00:09:33 -0500 Organization: Orange Wolf Software Message-ID: <owolf-ya02408000R0808970009330001@news.pdnt.com> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu>, "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu> wrote: >Hmmm... I think taking what companies have to say word by word is extremely >naive. Companies that stick to what they say are an exception in this >world of deceptions. I don't think Apple cares beans for original NeXT >customers and users. After all, they have their 50 million users and so >long as they rip off technology from NeXT and present this technology to >their users and tout it as "the next generation mac technology" they'll be >fine. A classic case, may I say, of technological rape. Oh, right. To be equally rude, ya damn ingrate, if Apple hadn't save NeXT's ass it would be defunct. Steve and Co. were talking seriously about dropping the OS and concentrating on being a "web corporation"...how wonderfully nebulous. Now you got 60 million customers to buy your software, where's the thanks?
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From: jburne@sprynet.com (John Burnette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 22:31:07 -0500 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <jburne-0708972231070001@hd30-229.hil.compuserve.com> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> In article <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu>, "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu> wrote: > Hmmm... I think taking what companies have to say word by word is extremely > naive. Companies that stick to what they say are an exception in this > world of deceptions. I don't think Apple cares beans for original NeXT > customers and users. After all, they have their 50 million users and so > long as they rip off technology from NeXT and present this technology to > their users and tout it as "the next generation mac technology" they'll be > fine. A classic case, may I say, of technological rape. > Not rape, not at all. There was 400 Million worth of consent. -- John Burnette jburne@sprynet.com "Isn't comp.os.ms-windows an oxymoron?"
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 8 Aug 1997 13:09:22 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5sf5q2$ndv$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> <owolf-ya02408000R0808970009330001@news.pdnt.com> In-Reply-To: <owolf-ya02408000R0808970009330001@news.pdnt.com> On 08/08/97, owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com wrote: >Oh, right. To be equally rude, ya damn ingrate, if Apple hadn't save >NeXT's ass it would be defunct. Steve and Co. were talking seriously about >dropping the OS and concentrating on being a "web corporation"...how >wonderfully nebulous. Now you got 60 million customers to buy your >software, where's the thanks? > Many of us are thankful. Could we please drop this one, it doesn't help -- both companies win big on the deal in various ways, cf for example my article on Stepwise: http://www.stepwise.com/ Best wishes, mmalc. --
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: "Tom" <tvincent@macradio.net> Subject: Re: Jobs' Keynote in RealAudio Message-ID: <887cd$f61d.251@LSNT1> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 15:04:26 -0700 References: <5sb12i$4ul$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> <5sdmon$q2o$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Organization: http://www.macradio.net I have had Real Audio take files that were 12 megs in size and compress them to less then 1 meg. Real Audio is streamed so size doesn't matter. Timothy J. Luoma wrote in article <5sdmon$q2o$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>... >In <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu wrote: >> >> And many others too! > >Someone has (rightly) mentioned that the resultant file would be quite large. > >I know this is true, but would still be interested in it. > >TjL > >-- >Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the >anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest >in Apple than that is highly-optimistic. > >
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From: Greg Davis <gregor@crosslink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Turbo slab refuses to shutdown Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 00:12:30 +0000 Organization: Fighter Grafix Message-ID: <33E7C16E.82F@crosslink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Pardon me if I revisit a recent thread, but my Turbo color slab refuses to shut down in the normal 10-15 second time frame. It tries but I am surmising that the filesystem is not left in a clean state, so it need to run fsck everytime I power it up to reboot. It has a relatively new battery, and prefs are not set to reboot after power interruption. My friend Randy Rencsok suspects a rogue process that refuses to die, preventing a clean shutdown. Any ideas? And don't tell me not to shut the machine down either...... Thanks in advance Gregor
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 5 Aug 1997 22:39:03 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5s8a27$7lh$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: beccaray@geocities.com I've said it before and I will say it again: Please do not crosspost within csn.*. You really are not reaching more people. Crossposting to csn.MISC is explicitly wrong, as csn.misc is defined as a group for messages which do not belong in any other group. If it goes to misc, it doesn't go anywhere else... if it goes anywhere else, it doesn't go to misc. If you must crosspost (ie your life is in peril and you need immediate help) please make sure you set a Followups-To line, so that threads can be contained to one newsgroup. TjL, off to take his afternoon Prozac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip tools for NeXT? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 15:58:08 GMT References: <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email> wrote: > >How can I do something as simple as write-protect a Zip disk using my >NeXT? HELP! > I seem to recall a utility for white hardware that would do this, but that's all. It should be possible to write one using the generic SCSI driver but no one has gotten around to it yet (I downloaded the source to the Linux Iomega tools but that's as far as I got.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: "Sung Ho Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 8 Aug 1997 22:18:37 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <01bca448$a71800e0$3666ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu> <owolf-ya02408000R0808970009330001@news.pdnt.com> owolf@NOSPAMpdnt.com wrote in article <owolf-ya02408000R0808970009330001@news.pdnt.com>... > In article <01bca11a$f5ee7b80$1166ec84@128.253.180.2.cornell.edu>, "Sung Ho > Kim" <sk68@cornell.edu> wrote: > >Hmmm... I think taking what companies have to say word by word is extremely > >naive. Companies that stick to what they say are an exception in this > >world of deceptions. I don't think Apple cares beans for original NeXT > >customers and users. After all, they have their 50 million users and so > >long as they rip off technology from NeXT and present this technology to > >their users and tout it as "the next generation mac technology" they'll be > >fine. A classic case, may I say, of technological rape. > > > Oh, right. To be equally rude, ya damn ingrate, if Apple hadn't save > NeXT's ass it would be defunct. Steve and Co. were talking seriously about > dropping the OS and concentrating on being a "web corporation"...how > wonderfully nebulous. Now you got 60 million customers to buy your > software, where's the thanks? > It's extremely presumptuous to ask for gratefulness especially when Apple badly needed the technology to stay alive. I mean, Apple isn't exactly a stable leading-edge computer company right now. It was just as much Apple's ass which was at stake, so there's no need to feel grateful about a transaction that provided top-notch development and OS technology in return for being added to a company with bleeding financial numbers, horrible management, and poor quality products (Copland, oh my god) so that they could cannibalize NeXT technology for their own needs. And BTW, I wouldn't be so high and mighty about a meager 3% market share. Kind of sweet irony that Mac users are so frantic about the M$ investment deal and the patent acquisition by M$ when they played the exact same role eight months ago--the role of a technologically poor company with dough buying off a technologically rich company with little market share--with the promise of wider acceptance. With that note, I'm out of this thread.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Date: 10 Aug 1997 03:53:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <446871185624@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: garyytyie@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5sj0hu$cm9@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Control: cancel <5sj0hu$cm9@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Date: 10 Aug 1997 05:29:15 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5sj0hu$cm9@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: www.next.com temporarily vanished Date: 11 Aug 1997 02:14:48 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5slsio$o55$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5sl00v$hnb$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jtodd@ss4.digex.net In <5sl00v$hnb$1@news2.digex.net> John Todd wrote: > On trying to get to NeXT's old web site (www.next.com) today, I discovered > that it is in fact not there. As in: the "A" record for www.next.com > somehow was accidentally removed during maintenance. Since the records for > next.com now are on Apple's nameservers, I wrote to them and received a > reply that they would soon be back in place. > > However, this may mean that (at worst) may be 24 hours before your > particular resolver is able to get to that hostname. This is good news.... I started changing over some bookmarks to enterprise.apple.com but couldn't find some others. I couldn't imagine why they would drop www.next.com, it just doesn't make any sense. Thanks for the update TjL
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: asdfkljsdal@ldjfasdjf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <33edac02.0@news1.ibm.net> Control: cancel <33edac02.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 10 Aug 1997 11:54:43 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33edac02.0@news1.ibm.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 23:34:20 -0600 From: nextjet@bellsouth.net Subject: Nfs Sgi&Next&Mac Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi,admin,comp.sys.sgi.misc,.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Message-ID: <871273355.31205@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Posting Service I find myself in the midst of configuring nfs with,A Turbo ND running 3.2,2 Sgi Indi's running 5.3 irix & 1 powermac8100/80 running OS8. I have setup the cube as a master netinfo server.The Indy's have the nfs option installed.And the mac has nfs share installed.So far I can ftp,telnet,rlogin from the command line.But the automounter on all machines simply mounts empty directories at the mount points. If anyone has these same problems I would appreciate any info you may have on the subject.tia german gobel. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: jtodd@ss4.digex.net (John Todd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: www.next.com temporarily vanished Date: 10 Aug 1997 18:07:27 GMT Organization: DIGEX Technical Support Message-ID: <5sl00v$hnb$1@news2.digex.net> Summary: DNS error makes www.next.com unavailable for short time On trying to get to NeXT's old web site (www.next.com) today, I discovered that it is in fact not there. As in: the "A" record for www.next.com somehow was accidentally removed during maintenance. Since the records for next.com now are on Apple's nameservers, I wrote to them and received a reply that they would soon be back in place. However, this may mean that (at worst) may be 24 hours before your particular resolver is able to get to that hostname. Details enclosed at the bottom of this message for those of you who are nameservice wonks. JT -- John Todd - Mgr., Business Connectivity Technical Support jtodd@digex.net - 301-847-5167 (direct) - 301-847-6215 (fax) 24-hour Support Line - 301-847-5200 DIGEX, Inc. [debug info] 2 ss4> nslookup Default Server: res1.ns.digex.net Address: 206.205.242.132 > set qt=ns > next.com Server: res1.ns.digex.net Address: 206.205.242.132 Non-authoritative answer: next.com nameserver = NSERVER2.APPLE.COM next.com nameserver = NSERVER.EURO.APPLE.COM next.com nameserver = NSERVER.APPLE.COM Authoritative answers can be found from: NSERVER2.APPLE.COM internet address = 17.254.0.59 NSERVER.EURO.APPLE.COM internet address = 194.151.19.41 NSERVER.APPLE.COM internet address = 17.254.0.50 > server nserver.apple.com Default Server: nserver.apple.com Address: 17.254.0.50 > set qt=a > www.next.com Server: nserver.apple.com Address: 17.254.0.50 *** nserver.apple.com can't find www.next.com: Non-existent host/domain > [mail to the hostmasters @apple and @next] > From kravindr@apple.com Sun Aug 10 13:48:44 1997 > > Dear Mr. Todd, > > It was an accidental oversight when the Apple-NeXT merger took place. This > will be fixed shortly. > > Regards > Ravi > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From: John Todd <<jtodd@greyfox.digex.net> > Subject: DNS problems with next.com > To: postmaster@next.com, postmaster@apple.com, hmaster@nserver.apple.com > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 13:06:16 -0400 (EDT) > > > Hello - > I have noticed that www.next.com no longer resolves from your nameservers. > If this is unintentional, you may wish to repair the problem. >
From: sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Zip tools for NeXT? Date: 11 Aug 1997 09:00:26 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5smkba$n0f@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <1997Aug6.155410.4749@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Hi there is ziptool for Solaris which should be much closer to the NeXT than a linux-program, but the program do not compile on my NeXT ... If somebody wants the sources and docs (80KB) via NeXTmail or MIME, send me a mail. Sven
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.unix.unixware,misc.security,sci.eng.safety From: jackson@usenix.org (Jackson Dodd) Subject: 7th USENIX Security Symposium - Call for Papers Message-ID: <EEK4AJ.3F5@usenix.org> Keywords: USENIX, CERT, conference, security, cryptography, firewalls Organization: USENIX Association Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 18:49:30 GMT 7th USENIX Security Symposium January 26-29, 1998 Marriott Hotel - San Antonio, TX If you are a security practitioner, researcher, or programmer involved in the lastest advances in security and applications of cryptography, this conference will be of interest to you. There will be refereed papers, tutorials, BoFs, invited talks, Works-in-Progress, and panel sessions. We are seeking refereed papers on topics such as: * Adaptive security and system management * Analysis of malicious code * Applications of cryptographic techniques * Attacks against networks/machines * Computer misuse and anomaly detection * Copyright protection (technical solutions) * Cryptographic & other security tools * File and file system security * Network security * New firewall technologies * Security in heterogeneous environments * Security incident investigation and response * Security of Mobile Code * User/system authentication * World Wide Web security Paper submissions are due September 9, 1997. For more detailed information: - Visit the USENIX website at: http://www.usenix.org/sec - Read comp.org.usenix - Send email to our automatic mailserver at: info@usenix.org Your message should contain the line: "send security conferences" ================================================================= The USENIX Association brings together the community of engineers, system administrators, scientists, and technicians working on the cutting edge of computing. Its technical conferences are the essential meeting grounds for the presentation and discussion of the most advanced information on new developments in all aspects of advanced computing systems.
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Nfs Sgi&Next&Mac Date: Mon, 11 Aug 1997 12:13:55 -0700 Organization: Public Electronic Access to Knowlege,Inc Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970811120813.22339Q-100000@kira> References: <871273355.31205@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: nextjet@bellsouth.net In-Reply-To: <871273355.31205@dejanews.com> I find it amazing that people will continually shotgun blast posts to all the groups under comp.sys.next.* without a shred of thought as to which group might be appropriate. If you cannot even take the time to extend the simple courtesy of posting to the proper group, it makes it very hard for me to want to extend you the courtesy of sending a reply or searching for the information. Please take a look at the groups, find _one_ that seems _most_ appropriate, and post there. If you do crosspost, take a second a check two things: 1) did you set a Followups-To: line, so that the thread will not spawn on multiple groups and redundant answers will be given, thus wasting more time when people answer questions which have already been answered? 2) did you NOT crosspost to csn.misc, whose description explicitly states that it is only for messages which do not belong elsewhere? I realize this is terribly old-fashioned, but when you are asking for help, it is best to do it as courteously as possible. You do get some credit for crossposting the messages versus posting them repeatedly to different groups, but it was still too much. TjL, repeating his same old song...
From: chrish@cc.usu.edu (PUNCHOUT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WTB Black Hardware manuals and NS 3.3 Message-ID: <DyPTgb6SeOmX@cc.usu.edu> Date: 11 Aug 97 14:43:29 MDT Organization: Utah State University WTB: NeXTStep 3.3 user and developer CD's, preferably with manuals NeXTStep manuals TurboColor Nextstation manual(s) I just purchased Black Hardware from a colleague and I really would like to get my hands on this stuff. I'm a college student and this is for non-commercial use. So, I hope someone could take pitty on me.. My machine came withh 3.3 installed. But I'd like the original CD's, I"m not sure how the whole licensing works... since purchased the machine with 3.3 installed I'm entitled to have a personal backup copy? Thanks. The reason I'd like access to the hardware manual is that there are some things I'd like to know about the architecture of the logic board. in particular is this empty white slot, looks almost nubus, sitting to the left of the SIMM slots. I also just wanted to know about the processors used, if it can handle a secondary cache. yada yada yada Thanks in advance. Oh, the 72 pin simms, does the turbo color require parity? or can it use non parity? -- Christian Shank Nothing special... No titles or honoraria CHRISH@CC.USU.EDU Quote? I have no stinking quote! The opinions contained above are mine and mine alone, they are in no way associated with anyone I work for, have worked with, ever will work for or with, nor are the opinions of those I work for or with mine, nor have they been mine nor will they be mine nor are my opinions yours or yours mine, nor is anything I've written to be considered my opinion since I'm an unwilling victim of alien mind control.
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From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: We making "ppaiNews" magazine Vol 2. Date: 9 Aug 1997 10:55:31 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5shib3$hbj$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi~ We making "ppaiNews" magazine vol2 written in Korean. The magazine is for NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody community. It just "hobby" and "free" offer to Korean NeXT user group! Here are some pages on editing. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa/read.cgi?b=default&c=r_p&n=871094154 After editing magazine in our spare time, we will offer it both type Printed magazine for Korean NeXT user group and postscript format file for NeXT user around world.(But you must know korean languge, we are sorry.) Maybe It will finished next week. younghoon Kil http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) redjade@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail OK) Fax: +82-(32)-817-8965 VOICE:+82-(32)-889-0151, +82-(11)-275-0177
From: "Terrence Redding" <redding@oltraining.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Jobs' Keynote in RealAudio Date: Sat, 09 Aug 1997 08:30:43 +0000 Organization: OnLine Training, Inc. Message-ID: <5shnt4$ljj$3@ddi2.digital.net> References: <5sb12i$4ul$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> <5sdmon$q2o$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5sdmon$q2o$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >In <5sd99j$3nr@news.asu.edu> devan2m@imap2.asu.edu wrote: >> >> And many others too! > >Someone has (rightly) mentioned that the resultant file would be quite large. > >I know this is true, but would still be interested in it. > >TjL > >-- >Gates isn't dumb, he knows Apple's survival means he can keep the >anti-monopoly folks at bay. Thinking he has any more interest >in Apple than that is highly-optimistic. > I think he also knows that RISC systems will pull ahead of CISC systems in the next 24 months, with 500 Mhz vs 200 Mhz within six months, and 750 Mhz vs 250 Mhz within 18 months, and he wants to see his NT system completely acceptable on a RISC based platform. MS plans to be the dominant software developer and vendor for the dominant (read RISC) computer platform. he is hedging his bet that Mac will survive and gain market share based on the power of the Motorola processor, and in spite of the miss management on the part of the Apple management. Cheers, Terry
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From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Turbo slab refuses to shutdown Date: 6 Aug 1997 10:05:38 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5s9i9i$mem$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33E7C16E.82F@crosslink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: gregor@crosslink.net In <33E7C16E.82F@crosslink.net> Greg Davis wrote: > Pardon me if I revisit a recent thread, but my Turbo color slab refuses to > shut down in the normal 10-15 second time frame. It tries but I am > surmising that the filesystem is not left in a clean state, so it need to > run fsck everytime I power it up to reboot. > It has a relatively new battery, and prefs are not set to reboot after > power interruption. My friend Randy Rencsok suspects a rogue process that > refuses to die, preventing a clean shutdown. Any ideas? And don't tell me > not to shut the machine down either...... That's entirely possible --- on shutdown the system sends a SIGHUP that politely request each process to die. If after a certain time there are still processes running, it sends a SIGKILL, which is a special signal that can't be ignored and that kill the process with extreme prejudice. If that doesn't work, the system just shuts down anyhow. SIGHUP's can be caught and ignored by a process, although the usual idea is to detect the signal and institute a graceful shutdown --- very few processes will simply refuse to die. However, if the process is waiting for IO, it will apparently ignore the signal untill the IO request can be fulfilled. That's why if you type 'df' on a system where one of the NFS servers isn't responding you have to use Ctrl-\ (sends a SIGKILL) to kill the blocked df process rather than Ctrl-C (sends a SIGHUP). However, if there is a NFS problem like that, you will also see messages when the system tries to unmount the partition in question --- the system retries about 10 times and then just gives up and shuts down anyhow. Similar effects can be seen with Samba servers, which I have found will very commonly cause a disk to be left in a dirty state on shutdown. Very large processes, especially on slow or low-memory hardware can end up taking too long to do their graceful shutdown, and end up getting a KILL from the system. I've seen this happen with a PGEserver process (that's the server for MindShare.app) which was eating 90Mb of VM on a system with 32Mb physical RAM. In order to get a clean shutdown, it was necessary to kill the PGEserver process and wait for several minutes before shutting down the machine. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: me@mysolution.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 9 Aug 1997 17:20:53 GMT Organization: Internet Solutions Inc. Message-ID: <5si8tl$hng$1@news.mysolution.com> References: <33E418B4.2819@npl.org> <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de> In article <5s3472$k4u@hal.nexttoyou.de>, > >"NeXT will continue to sell and support all of our existing products, and we >will continue to offer cross-platform support." > >What gives? > Keep selling copies of Openstep 4 and leave it there.:-) -ME
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: We making "ppaiNews" magazine Vol 2. Date: 9 Aug 1997 12:05:10 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5shmdm$hbj$3@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi~ We making "ppaiNews" magazine Vol 2 written in Korean. The magazine is for NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody community. It just "hobby" and "free" offer to Korean NeXT user group! Here are some pages on editing. http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa/read.cgi?b=default&c=r_p&n=871094154 After editing magazine in my spare time, We will offer it both type Printed magazine for Korean NeXT user group and Postscript format file for NeXT user around world.(But you must know korean languge, I'm sorry.) Maybe It will finished next week. younghoon Kil http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (We have 3,500 web pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) redjade@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail OK) Fax: +82-(32)-817-8965 VOICE:+82-(32)-889-0151, +82-(11)-275-0177
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From: "Marc P. Duchesne" <mduchesn@easynet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP : NeXT Software Programmers Support Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:04:46 +0200 Organization: Marc Duchesne IT Consultant Message-ID: <33F364DE.996@easynet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I'm registered as developper at NeXT Software (1991). I've lost the email' adresses of the Developper Support and have no access to a NS machine to read it on CD-ROMs. (have to notify them my own email adress changes). Please can anyone help ? -- Marc P. Duchesne mduchesn@easynet.fr Information Technologies Consultant, Fiberoptics Specialist Les Fans, 77510 Villeneuve Sur Bellot, France +33 (0)16-404-8229 <http://www.optoroute.com/fiber66> ---------------------------------------------
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 14 Aug 1997 23:25:35 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned and why the NeXTanswer is incorrect, but the 4.05 version of the Matrox Millenium drive is available on NeXTanswers. It claims to support the Millenium II at some seriously high resolutions (I have no way of testing it yet, but I also have no reason to doubt it). NeXTanswer with release notes: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2334.htmld/2334.html Note that for some reason this NeXTanswer says that there isn't a newer version of this driver, but the link beside the "beta" item does indeed take you to the new driver. Direct link to the actual driver: http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/ByNumber/2536.compressed -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: "gmrca" <gmrca@isp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 8 72pin SIMM sockets. What is this thing? Date: 15 Aug 1997 00:51:51 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> I have a Color NeXTStation, and need to know WhAT it is. All of the specs that I see point to a slab having 4 SIMM sockets, and 128megs max RAM. Does this mean I could do 256? Or that it won't accept 32meg SIMMs? I appreciate any help offerred. Thanx In addition, are there any hardware hacks to increase speed on a slab? -- _______________________________________ I'm not real. I'm not true. I am a god.
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 8 72pin SIMM sockets. What is this thing? Date: 15 Aug 1997 05:03:12 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5t0nug$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> "gmrca" <gmrca@isp.net> wrote: >I have a Color NeXTStation, and need to know WhAT it is. >All of the specs that I see point to a slab having 4 SIMM >sockets, and 128megs max RAM. Does this mean I could >do 256? Or that it won't accept 32meg SIMMs? You have a first generation 25MHz NeXTstation Color. It has eight 72 pin SIMMs for 12-32 MB of interleaved memory. The SIMMs take only 1MB or 4MB parts. Sorry - you're limited to 32MB max. >In addition, are there any hardware hacks to increase speed >on a slab? Other than buying a 33MHz Turbo Color motherboard ($150 from http://www.deepspacetech.com), not really. There is a 50MHz 68040 Pyro daughtercard but I doubt you'll ever find one for sale and it'll cost you a lot even if you do (its a collectors item). Then there's the 40MHz Nitro daughtercard for Turbo machines, but if you found one of those for under $1000 I'd have to kill you! :-) It is beyond a collectors item and has gained a status closer to that of the Holy Grail... - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
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From: lozinski@nina.openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.system Subject: OpenStep Newsletter Date: 15 Aug 1997 07:16:20 GMT Message-ID: <5t0vo4$16u$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> 1. OpenStep Newsletter is Back in Production 2. Rhapsody has Spreadsheet, Word Processor, Graphics Applications 3. Music Kit Lives 4. RTF to HTML Conversion. 5. Java on Rhapsody 6. Metrowerks Porting Latitude to Rhapsody 7. Java Bridge 8. Persistent Java 9. Apple Focused on OS not Development Tools 10 Microsoft Invests $150 Million in Apple 11. OPENSTEP JOB MARKET a) Introduction b)60 Hiring Managers c)Seattle Fast Growing Company d)Washington D.C. Shrink Wrap Vendor e)Become a Java developer f)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep g)San Francisco Bay Area: Learn NeXTStep h) New York: Know Perl, Learn WebObjects i)San Francisco WebObjects Storefront j)NeXTStep System Administrators k)Auspex System Administrator Needed l)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep System Administrator m)Texas n)San Francisco Bay Area o)SnowBoarders Needed p)Deep South q)Boston, Washington Consultants r)Midwest 12. Tom Love, the Businessman Behind Objective-C 13. Senior Project Managers Available 14. OpenStep Newsletter Changes Focus 15. Newton and Emate 16. Big Changes in Smalltalk Market 17. Welcome Vernetta 18. Be OS Ported to Intel 19 . Subscriptions Now Available 1. OpenStep Newsletter is Back in Production I have hired a second person to help out with the recruiting function, allowing me to focus on publishing the newsletter. That should mean more regular newsletters, with deeper coverage. At the same time this newsletter needs to distinguish itself from other web publications. Every newspaper is now covering the board room antics at Apple, so to provide unique value to my readership, this newsletter will focus on the object technology at Apple, namely OpenStep, WebObjects, Rhapsody, EOF, and Java. Other Apple news will be covered only in passing. 2. Rhapsody has Spreadsheet, Word Processor, Graphics Applications Three different companies have each announced one of the key office productivity applications for Rhapsody. P&L has ported the Mesa Spreadsheet <http://www.plsys.co.uk/plsys/>; Anderson Financial has ported the Write Up wordprocessor<WriteUp@afs.com> and the PasteUp <PasteUp@afs.com> layout manager; Stone Design has ported the Create the "total design studio with web page capabilities" <www.stone.com>; Caffeine Software has ported the Image Processing Tiffany application; Metrowerks is porting over their lattitude library; And some of the mainframe connectivity applications are ported over. These and other applications were ported to the newest release of Rhapsody at the developers kitchen just before the Boston MacWorld Trade Show. As a company that runs happily on NeXTStep 3.2, I have to say that there is a lot of software <ftp://ftp.next.peak.org> that runs on the Mach Operating System, most of which simply cannot be ported to Rhapsody until the Rhapsody developer release becomes widely available. 3. Music Kit Lives Many years ago, NeXT dropped the MusicKit due to lack of commercial demand. NeXT then licensed it to Stanford. More recently Yamaha and Stanford licensed patents and software to a joint venture called Sondius. <www.Sondius-XG.com> The first licensee for Sondius is a company called Staccato Systems. <www.staccatosys.com> The MusicKit offers a computational model of sound generation and allows the application developer to create a particular instrument as a specific instantiation of the generic physical models. Instruments could be traditional musical instruments, such as a piano, or a more abstract sound source such as a door that slams or any other video game sound. These instruments can then be driven by music notes which can be transmitted as midi. Midi represents sound as a series of notes, and allows for 128 (7 bits) instruments to play those notes. Midi only allows the definition of 128 musical instruments, so Sondius is attempting to define an extension to the Midi standard. Of course in the Stanford Newspaper article about the technology, no mention was made as to the source of the software, or that it was implemented in Objective-C. 4. RTF to HTML Conversion. If you have rtf or rtfd files that you want to convert to HTML try LatinByrd. <http://members.ping.at/stefan/> TIFF and EPS images in RTFD docs are automatically converted to GIF, JPEG, and PNG format. And unlike some of the other OpenStep HTML generation products, it works just fine on NeXTStep 3.3. LatinByrd works by reading the RTF file into an object from NEXTSTEP API's 'Text' class. LatinByrd then takes that Text object apart, gathering all the necessary layout info from it and saving out the HTML file. Since the Text class doesn't know of Microsoft style sheets LatinByrd does not parse that information correctly. 5. Java on Rhapsody Java will be the primary development environment on top of the Yellow Box. Existing developers who hear this worry that Objective-C will no longer be an option, but rest assured, that the wizards of the world will have access to incantations not available to the novices. 6. Metrowerks Porting Latitude to Rhapsody The Latitude library implements the Macintosh Applications Programming Interface (API) on Unix. It is now used by Macintosh developers to port applications to Sun's Solaris, and in the future will be used to port to Apple's Rhapsody. Metrowerks is porting the Latitude application to Mach on Intel as a stepping stone to Rhapsody on PowerPC. Metrowerks will then port their own development tools to Rhapsody. Already they have integrated the GNU compiler into their development environment. Metrowerks is also developing a C++ compiler for Rhapsody. Alas, Metrowerks is very much targeting the embedded systems market, rather than the corporate, object-oriented development market. Thus their tools emphasize code performance over flexibility and reusability. Don't expect nib files from Metrowerks initially. Their code saves time and space by writing subroutines that generate the desired User Interface. Sigh. 7. Java Bridge Apple is working on a Java bridge to allow Java client applications on other platforms to talk to Rhapsody servers using something like PDO. More details will follow next month. Meanwhile take a look at a technology for building Java clients to Web Objects <www.advis.com> Does anyone have a better solution for connecting Java Clients to Objective-C servers? 8. Persistent Java I know two companies that are selling persistent Java. O2 <www.o2tech.com> and Servio Logic <www.gemstone.com> Of course there are many more companies selling Java language servers connected to relational databases. Even the persistent Java vendors connect to relational databases, but why bother. With persistent Java you get database persistence, in a nice message-passing based environment. What else could you ask for? Let me know what your experiences have been. 9. Apple Focused on OS not Development Tools There is a huge change over at NeXT/Apple. They used to be a company targeted on corporate mission critical applications. Now they are a hardware vendor trying to ship an operating system. Even the sales of WebObjects at the $80-100 million level pale in comparison to the sales of hardware at the $8 billion level. 10. Microsoft Invests $150 Million in Apple In addition to investing in Apple, Microsoft also agreed to upgrade Microsoft Office on Macintosh for 5 years, in exchange for Apple agreeing to bundle Internet Explorer with the Macintosh Operating System. Effectively Microsoft and Apple are downplaying the competition between their operating systems, and Apple is joining the Microsoft camp in the browser wars. Note that Microsoft cannot afford to allow Macintosh to disappear, for then they would be highly subject to monopoly busting federal law suits. The stock market reacted favorably to this news, presumably because it stabilized the life of the Macintosh; but OpenStep developers fear that it will reduces the pressure on Apple to migrate to Rhapsody. Apple had been trying to move to Rhapsody ASAP as a competitive strategy against Microsoft. Now that they are on the same side there may be less urgency to migrate. OPENSTEP JOB MARKET 11 a)Introduction If you are interested in any of these positions, send email to lozinski@openstepnews.com. I not only place people, I also advise them on what type of company to select. I help individuals find environments that suit their personality type. Everyone ends up very happy with the placements that I make. 11 b)60 Hiring Managers My database now includes 63 OpenStep hiring managers whom I personally know. If you are looking for a particular type of job, one you don't see here, I would be happy to send your resume to the right hiring manager. I know more about these companies than the average individual knows, and am able to tell at which company a particular person would find a compatible work environment. Current openings include: 11 c)Seattle Fast Growing Company This company has passed through the start up phase, and is in the high growth phase. They have contracted with the OpenStep newsletter as a sole source of WebObjects developers, and are paying premium salaries and stock options for experienced OpenStep developers. I am proud to say that these positions are only available through the OpenStep newsletter. 11 d)Washington D.C. Shrink Wrap Vendor Washington finally has OpenStep jobs that are in the commercial product market. This company is successfully building a shrink-wrapped product on OpenStep. Pretty exciting stuff. They have seven major customers already and are on a roll. T hey have an interesting Human Resource Policy. They are looking for cooperative individuals. Several Empire builders were recently laid off, because they interferred with the matrix management (read networking) within the company. Furthermore they want people who love Mach but have come to terms with the market acceptance of NT until such time Rhapsody becomes an acceptable alternative. I personally know the hiring manager. He is great at managing projects, and developing and following a plan that meets the customers application requirements and scheduling requirements. 11 e)Become a Java developer If you are interested in Java, but want to work with a group that understands good Object Oriented Design, then let me submit you to this group. New York or Bay Area Location. I will be meeting with the hiring managers on Wednesday 11 f)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep If you love Objective-C, you will love this job. Develop on NeXTStep with no WebObjects in sight and NT nowhere around. 11 g)San Francisco Bay Area: Learn NeXTStep This company is willing to train computer scientists in NeXTStep. 11 h)New York: Know Perl, Learn WebObjects This company is willing to train a beginner NeXTStep developer who knows Perl well. It is a great way to get paid to learn NeXTStep and EOF, and WebObjects. They prefer people who prefer stock options. 11 i)San Francisco WebObjects Storefront This company is looking for developers who have experience building an Internet StoreFront in WebObjects. Work from your home city anywhere in the world. 11 j)NeXTStep System Administrators For a long time the market demand for NeXTStep system administrators has been dead. Now it is starting to come to life, as people are reinvesting in Mach, and planning on Rhapsody. I now have two clients looking for System Administrators, and I expect to get more soon. 11 k)Auspex System Administrator Needed It has been a long time since a client has asked me to find a NeXTStep system administrator. This is a scarce position. If you know auspex, you should jump on this opportunity immediately. 11 l)San Francisco Bay Area NeXTStep System Administrator There is a job for a nextstep system administrator in the San Francisco Bay Area. The company is really focussed on taking good care of its staff, and running the organzation as a network of individuals. For someone who knows NeXTStep 4.1 well and NeXTStep system administration, this is a great opportunity to learn more about networking. Let me know if you are interested. I believe that they will even take foreign candidates. 11 m)Texas Great Family oriented company. You get a lot of house for your money here. The company also has a great comp time policy. If you have to travel at all, all those extra hours are comp time, and when you get back you can take a day off work. Pretty cool benefit. This company has a serious need for 6 senior developers and are promising to fill these positions promptly. This is the company for developers who want to move to Texas. If you want to break into the Financial Applications market, then this is a great opportunity. If you know NeXTStep but need to learn EOF or WebObjects then this company may be willing to give you high value training. 11 n)San Francisco Bay Area The company has an overly large existing application that needs to be migrated to a more solid object architecture. You will be responsible for conceptualizing the desired architecture and evangelizing that approach to the rest of the organization. In the process, you will encounter other points of view. An ability to win over and co-exist with other perspectives is very important. Sensitivity to others' concerns is also very important. Located in the San Francisco Bay Area. 11 o)SnowBoarders Needed If you are into snowboarding, then join the company putting up the definitive Snowboarding Web Site. Fringe Benefits including paid weekends to evaluate the products being resold. These guys go steep both in Snowboarding and in business, so get ready for the ride of your life. San Francisco Bay Area location with offices planned in Colorado, Switzerland, 11 p)Deep South Quiet rural location is the headquarters for an Internet Systems Integrator who loves NeXTStep. The other person I placed there loves the job. The boss tries to insert OpenStep and WebObjects in his own billing system, and whereever his customers let him. 11q)Boston, Washington Consultants Are always needed. One of the projects is very well designed and exciting, one has no design and is in complete confusion. The last one is so large, that changes can only be made very slowly. Of course these are consulting positions. 11 r)Midwest Your boss will be one of the original NeXT Developers. This is a great place for a beginner to solidify his/her grasp of NeXTStep. It is also an interesting application. The company is building customer support software for an Internet service provider, so you also get trained in the intricacies of Internetworking. 12.Tom Love, the Businessman Behind Objective-C Tom Love founded Stepstone with Brad Cox. While Brad developed the original version of Objective-C, Tom made the sales to finance the development. Later as C++ rose to take market dominance over Objective-C, Tom voted in favor of offering both C++ and Objective-C services, was voted down, and left Stepstone. Without his drive and market savvy, Stepstone dwindled into insignificance. Tom went on to offer consulting services, wrote a book "Object Lessons", and helped create IBM's Object Technology Practice. In March of this year, I received a call from Tom asking me if I could find good Objective-C developers that he could teach Java syntax to in a week. This was a hot project, and so on a next-day service basis, I found him the people to develop and test his application. With my usual great intuition, the people I found for him fit the bill exactly. The senior developer of this financial analysis project had spent his whole life doing time-series data analysis; although the applications were in physics, these were skills easily transferred to Wall Street. The junior tester came from a school that aggressively emphasized testing. The pair of them cost the client significantly less than had been budgeted. On July 23rd Tom's application made the Wall Street Journal, front page of section C. In about two weeks, the application will go public and lose password protection. (See <www.riskview.com>). Impressively enough, the application went from design to delivery within 100 calendar days with just three developers. It is not a simple application. Good design, and great management will do it every time. Yes, I take credit for shaving a week off the cycle time with my superior quality recruiting services, but the real applause goes to the great NeXTStep developers who know how to design object applications, and in this case outranked the functional decomposition camp who had a different design approach. The key to good design is flexibility against the unexpected changes that lie ahead. In one instance the team needed to change the time-series analysis from daily to weekly. With a single subclassing, and 15 minutes of work, the change was made, and everything else worked. Tell your boss: OpenStep developers make the best Java developers. They are the only ones in the world with 5 years of Java design experience. 13. Senior Project Managers Available Do you need a Java application delivered in a hundred days? Is your software project over budget and behind schedule? Do you have a critical deadline to meet? If so, I know a number of people who can help you out. These are older, very experience project managers who understand Object Technology, Customer Requirements and Schedules and can integrate them together. These people are also very politically savvy. The basic offer is that you tell them what you need, and they tell you what it takes to accomplish the objectives and the schedule. You give them full authority over all relevant issues, and they deliver what you need. They all have extensive track records that show their ability to accomplish what you need. 14.OpenStep Newsletter Changes Focus The Tom Love project and the huge growth in the WebObjects market have changed the business focus of the OpenStep newsletter. We started out placing average OpenStep developers into corporate positions. We are still doing that, but it is clear that our great advantage is in knowing the best OpenStep developers. My database is filled with exceptionally experienced (4 years or more) OpenStep developers, senior project managers who have proven their value and productivity. If you would like to hire one of these talented people, please let me know. 15.Newton and Emate The Apple Newton and the Emate run the same operating system. It is a modern operating system with a self-like language which runs in minimal memory space. Apple is selling out as quickly as it can manufacture them. Mostly they are selling large shipments to vertical market segments. It would make a great basis for a low-cost network computer. Larry Ellison are you listening? 16.Big Changes in Smalltalk Market Before the arrival of the Web, ParcPlace's Smalltalk provided a very attractive cross-platform solution for corporate applications. Since then, the Web has made Smalltalk less interesting. HTML runs everywhere for free. ParcPlace Smalltalk runs almost everywhere, but costs a lot. In the mean time, ParcPlace had purchased their arch competitor Digitalk and attempted but failed to merge the two products. Eventually they put the Digitalk product on the back burner, and most of the customers fled to IBM Smalltalk. The net result is that ParcPlace was recently trading at a dollar a share, probably close to their asset value. 17.Welcome Vernetta Vernetta Wilson is now working with me. She will become the market maker for developers. That will allow her to devote full-time to knowing the different candidates and hiring managers, and placing the right person in the right job. And becoming a two-person company will allow me to focus on the web site, the databases, and publishing the newsletter. 18.Be OS Ported to Intel Be, Inc. has ported the Be operating system to Intel hardware and showed the product at MacWorld Expo in Boston on August 4th. 19.Subscriptions Now Available This newsletter is now available as ascii email, NeXTMAil, and Mime mail. Send your subscription and cancellation requests to the email address corresponding to the version that you want or do not want: Ascii version newsletter-request@lists.best.com NeXTMAIL version nextletter-request@lists.best.com MIME version newsletter-mime- request@lists.best.com The body of the message should contain the keyword 'subsingle' alone or, if you want to subscribe a third-party address, the subsingle keyword may be followed by an email address. subsingle or subsingle email-address You will then get an authentication message. Reply to it appropriately and you will then be subscribed. (Note: Do not use the 'subscribe' keyword, or you will get the digest version of the newsletter once a year). You can also subscribe multiple people in a single email message, one per line. Since this newsletter targets OpenStep Developers, I prefer if you subscribe to the NeXTMAIL version. 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From: Sanjeev Agarwal <sanjeev@umr.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: N3DCamera.... Date: 15 Aug 1997 07:10:57 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5t0ve1$m45$2@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I am having problem to understand the N3DCamera class. Is the world coordinate assumed to be left handed too (like the camera coordinates). I have a model in the right handed coordinate system. What will be the best approach to view such a CAD model using N3DCamera. Thank you very much for your help ... Sanjeev
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 15 Aug 1997 14:02:29 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> In-reply-to: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com's message of 14 Aug 1997 23:25:35 GMT In article <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>, andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com writes: I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned and why the NeXTanswer is incorrect, but the 4.05 version of the Matrox Millenium drive is available on NeXTanswers. It claims to support the Millenium II at some seriously high resolutions (I have no way of testing it yet, but I also have no reason to doubt it). Dammit, and I can't afford a Millenium-II w/12M plus a 21" monitor capable of 1920x1200 right now, sigh. And even with more than twice the screen real estate, I don't imagine even a 21" is really very workable at that res (sort of like running a 17" monitor at 1600x1200). The real question, methinks, is whether a Millenium-II is faster than the Millenium with these drivers, and how much faster. Given the graphics performance jolt I took when upgrading from Pentium to PentiumPro with a Millenium, I'm inclined to believe that it's unlikely to be much faster. Are they ever going to release a Mystique driver? Yes, I know, "consumer", but from all I've heard it's got a somewhat better price/perforamance ratio then the Millenium. While the performance is only like 9x% of the Millenium's, the _price_ is only like 70%. There's also a 220 (aka "business", aka "the box without the clown") version which is still cheaper, but still allows for those nice high refresh rates. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email (Geoffrey T. Falk) Subject: Re: Zip tools for NeXT? Message-ID: <1997Aug6.155410.4749@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Originator: gtf@theorem Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: For circumcision information, http://www.cirp.org/CIRP/ References: <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 97 15:54:10 GMT In article <EEG70w.HqA@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <1997Jul31.174430.25087@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, >Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf@cirp.org.This.blocks.unsolicited.com mercial.email> wrote: >>How can I do something as simple as write-protect a Zip disk using my >>NeXT? HELP! > > I seem to recall a utility for white hardware that would do this, but that's >all. It should be possible to write one using the generic SCSI driver but no >one has gotten around to it yet (I downloaded the source to the Linux Iomega >tools but that's as far as I got.) I downloaded that code, too. It actually compiles straight away on NeXT with no warnings. (I have black hardware; only tried gcc, but NeXT's cc may also work). But it doesn't work properly. I think this may be an endian problem, or a difference in the SCSI parameters, but I haven't sorted it out yet. Best g. -- I conceal nothing. It is not enough not to lie. One should strive not to lie in a negative sense by remaining silent. ---Leo Tolstoy ADDRESS ALTERED TO DEFLECT SPAM. UNSOLICITED E-MAIL ADS BILLED $500/ITEM Geoffrey T. Falk <gtf(@)math.rochester.edu> http://www.cirp.org/~gtf/
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From: eugenem@ix.netcom.com (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.tech Subject: PGP 5.0i on NS3.x Date: Sat, 16 Aug 1997 03:31:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5t36uv$t0_004@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, I was just wondering if anybody's downloaded the source code for PGP 5.0i and managed to get it to compile under NEXTSTEP 3.x (available from http://www.pgpi.com/) I managed to get it this far before it choking on me. Making all in lib/pgp/helper make[3]: Entering directory `/Users/eugene/pgp50i b8/src/lib/pgp/helper' gcc -O3 -g -DUNIX=1 -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing prototypes -Wwrite-strings -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPGPTRUSTMODEL=0 -DDEBUG=1 - -DUNFINISHED_CODE_ALLOWED=0 -I../../../. -I../../.././include I../include -I. -c pgpFileRef.c -o pgpFileRef.o pgpFileRef.c:110: parse error before `mode_t' pgpFileRef.c:110: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union pgpFileRef.c:112: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[0]' pgpFileRef.c:113: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[1]' pgpFileRef.c:114: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[2]' pgpFileRef.c:115: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[3]' pgpFileRef.c:116: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[4]' pgpFileRef.c:117: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[5]' pgpFileRef.c:118: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[6]' pgpFileRef.c:119: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[7]' pgpFileRef.c:120: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[8]' pgpFileRef.c:121: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[9]' pgpFileRef.c:122: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[10]' pgpFileRef.c:123: warning: braces around scalar initializer for `sUnixFileTypeTable[11]' pgpFileRef.c:124: warning: data definition has no type or storage class pgpFileRef.c: In function `pgpCreateFile': pgpFileRef.c:717: warning: implicit declaration of function `open' pgpFileRef.c:719: request for member `mask' in something not a structure or union pgpFileRef.c:721: warning: implicit declaration of function `close' pgpFileRef.c: In function `pgpStdIOOpenTempFile': pgpFileRef.c:807: warning: implicit declaration of function `mkstemp' pgpFileRef.c: In function `pgpFileRefStdIOOpen': pgpFileRef.c:1039: `mode_t' undeclared (first use this function) pgpFileRef.c:1039: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once pgpFileRef.c:1039: for each function it appears in.) pgpFileRef.c:1039: parse error before `oldMask' pgpFileRef.c:1045: `oldMask' undeclared (first use this function) pgpFileRef.c:1045: warning: implicit declaration of function `umask' pgpFileRef.c:1045: request for member `mask' in something not a structure or union make[3]: *** [pgpFileRef.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/Users/eugene/pgp50i b8/src/lib/pgp/helper' make[2]: *** [all] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/Users/eugene/pgp50i-b8/src/lib/pgp' make[1]: *** [all] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/Users/eugene/pgp50i-b8/src/lib' make: *** [all] Error 1 not having easy access to my slab (inconveniently located several thousand km away) makes porting it by remote a little more difficult. Anybody have some tips? Many thanks Eugene Mah -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBM/UevMJbb1Qfl3n9AQH1jwP/WHIpds7Frva65nRCl+tfgdXl+DrNJD47 0/dwEaogLRU1fkKhtkcM003cPVUILX8Sn7AMpOUhtY6A7aK0GhaAKomx6tgBB+L2 mkdoC69Z+KHeooHMQtg7+zesfvsZI+ZrwWXQNfs97SAHSJBW3jrJsVlCrNm9xXQD +Mg2p0Hz1Oc= =vaRz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah, M.Sc. eugenem@ix.netcom.com Medical Physics Fellow lurch@hooligan.net Physics and Engineering Division eugenem@rad.hfh.edu Department of Radiology "For I am a Bear of Very Little Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI Brain, and long words Bother http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ me." Winnie the Pooh PGP KeyID = 0x1F9779FD or 0xE37A1591 PGP key available on request O- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 16 Aug 1997 06:37:38 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5t3hri$s8i$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> In-Reply-To: <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> >In article <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com>, > andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com writes: > I'm not sure why this hasn't been mentioned and why the NeXTanswer > is incorrect, but the 4.05 version of the Matrox Millenium drive is > available on NeXTanswers. It claims to support the Millenium II at > some seriously high resolutions (I have no way of testing it yet, > but I also have no reason to doubt it). I've got an 8M Millenium running the 4.03 version of the Millenium driver. I had no luck getting the 4.05 version of the Millenium driver working. (Crashed the system during boot.) Anyone else having problems? - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: delta@rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Helmut Springer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,alt.security.pgp,comp.security.pgp.tech Subject: Re: PGP 5.0i on NS3.x Date: 16 Aug 1997 15:55:10 GMT Organization: Computing Center Stuttgart University (RUS), FRG Message-ID: <5t4igu$2024@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> References: <5t36uv$t0_004@ix.netcom.com> In comp.security.pgp.tech Eugene Mah <eugenem@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > I was just wondering if anybody's downloaded the source > code for PGP 5.0i and managed to get it to compile under > NEXTSTEP 3.x (available from http://www.pgpi.com/) see 'known bugs' on www.pgpi.com, especially: http://www.ifi.uio.no/pgp/nextstep-patch.txt enjoy delta PS: posted and mailed -- helmut 'delta' springer Unix/Net Consulting, InfoSystems, StudServ delta@RUS.Uni-Stuttgart.DE Stuttgart University, FRG http://home.pages.de/~delta/ phone : +49 711 685-2003 "Freedom's just another word for FAX : +49 711 685-7096 nothing left to lose" Kris Kristofferson
From: "Georges Tarbouriech" <aeroport.biarritz@hol.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: How to use Tandberg SCSI tape with Black 3.2 ? Date: 6 Aug 1997 17:31:44 GMT Message-ID: <01bca28d$d8dafd10$07ac2ac0@pcdev> References: <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com> Rebecca <beccaray@geocities.com> a écrit dans l'article <33E0BDAD.4D1B@geocities.com>... > Hi all, > > I have a Tandberg 250 meg SCSI tape drive that is being unusable with my > turbo color station. Any suggestions on how to get it to work. I know > there is a way becasue I've used it before, but the script that set it > up got eaten in the Hard Drive crash. Any help on this would be greatly > appreciated. > > Peace, > > James > Hi James, I may have a part of the answer; I use a Tandberg Panther 5000 and I spent some time to make it work on a Next station. It seems to be a problem of size of blocks. So, first try a cpio or find -cpio command; the answer usually is : "can't read input". Then, type a cpio -itv </dev/your dev; same answer as before . Rewind the tape (let's say you're using nrst0, for instance) typing : "mt -f /dev/your dev rewind". Last, change the blocksize : stblocksize -v /dev/your dev; the answer is :blocksize has been set to 0 . At that time, you can retype the first command, either cpio or find; it should work ! At least I hope. Probably, there are others and better solutions, but this is the only one I found. Usually, your streamer works fine as long as you don't stop the computer; of course after a new start, you'll have to do the same again ! Good luck Georges Tarbouriech
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <446871185624@digifix.com> Date: 17 Aug 1997 03:53:43 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Installing w/o SCSI CD Date: 12 Aug 1997 17:58:42 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5sq88i$t5h$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5sq43s$p6m@tarcus.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: ian@tarcus.demon.co.uk In <5sq43s$p6m@tarcus.demon.co.uk> Ian Rawlings wrote: > Hello all, as a newbie to the Next world, I was hoping to try it out > over the weekend. As I didn't want to dismantle my trusty linux box, I > borrowed a machine from work that has a SCSI hard disc but an IDE CD > drive. Unfortunately, nextstep 3.3 for intel won't install from an IDE > CD drive, I get the chance to choose an IDE interface for a hard disc, > but not for a CD! Ha! Don't let the documentation lead you astray. You can install NS 3.3 using an ATAPI CD Rom. What you need to do is: i) Download the latest EIDE driver from NextAnswers (http://www.next.com/) --- that's the 1977_EIDE.pkg.compressed file (search for #1977) and install it onto a device drivers floppy (you'll need a working NS box to do this). Or grab the latest device drivers floppyimages and copy them onto disk according to the instructions in 1921_Creating_FDs_From_Images_Under_NEXTSTEP_and_DOS.rtf --- you need the 2078_3.3_Beta_Drivers.floppyimage and the 2145_3.3_Core_Drivers.floppyimage ii) Use the standard 3.3 boot disk to kick off the installation, but use the new driver disks instead of the bundled 3.3 driver disks. When the installation process asks you to select a SCSI driver for your CD Rom, you can enter the driver for the hard drive and vice-versa. iii) The system should recognise both the ATAPI CD Rom (which it will masquerade as a SCSI disk) and your SCSI hard drive. If you still can't find the CD Rom, you should make sure it's plugged into the primary IDE bus. Once you installed everything, you can move it back to the secondary bus if you want. iv) The rest of the install should proceed as normal. > Is there a way around this? I'm itching to try Nextstep for myself, > but this daft limitation has put a stop to that little plan. My normal > box has IDE hard disc and CD, so I can't use that either. Aha! But you can install on a purely IDE system too. You need to do the same business with setting up new driver floppies as exactly before, but if you have your CD Rom and hard drive on different IDE busses use the 'Dual EIDE' driver. Specify some other SCSI driver for the other --- typically the Adaptec 1542B driver seems to be recommended, but as it won't be used I hardly think it matters what you specify. Nb. You use the dual EIDE driver *only* for installation. Once you've installed the system and you get to the Configure.app stage, you should configure two instances of the standard EIDE driver. > I know SCSI is better BTW, but I can't get a SCSI setup as it costs > too much to get one that's worth having, and I'm certainly not getting > a new CD and interface just for installation! NS 3.3 is trickier to install on an IDE system, and it certainly seems to prefer a SCSI system in normal use. Installing OS 4.2 on an IDE system is also rather easier as it is supplied with more up to date drivers than NS 3.3. Matthew Ps. While you're looking for the new EIDE drivers on NextAnswers, you'll probably want to pick up various other updated drivers. Many are listed as still in beta, but you can almost always use these without problems. Don't forget to grab the NS3.3 patches while you're about it --- the solve some quite nasty bugs, including ones that affect Configure.app rather badly. [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: fmlazar@cyber-wizard.com (Frank Lazar) Subject: Re: 8 72pin SIMM sockets. What is this thing? Organization: AMUSE--New York Amiga Users Group Message-ID: <fmlazar-1708971548370001@host035.jerseycity.interactive.net> References: <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> <5t0nug$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 19:48:37 GMT In article <5t0nug$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu>, bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > > Other than buying a 33MHz Turbo Color motherboard ($150 from > http://www.deepspacetech.com), not really. There is a 50MHz 68040 Pyro > daughtercard but I doubt you'll ever find one for sale and it'll cost you a > lot even if you do (its a collectors item). Then there's the 40MHz Nitro > daughtercard for Turbo machines, but if you found one of those for under > $1000 I'd have to kill you! :-) It is beyond a collectors item and has gained > a status closer to that of the Holy Grail... > Perhaps there is some way to adapt the Mac 50mhz Sonnet board. Apparantly it's already been hacked successfully for the Amiga 4000 which comes native with a 25mhz 040.
From: ian@tarcus.demon.DUMPTHISBIT.co.uk (Ian Rawlings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Installing w/o SCSI CD Date: 12 Aug 1997 16:47:56 GMT Organization: Ian Rawlings, private site Message-ID: <5sq43s$p6m@tarcus.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, as a newbie to the Next world, I was hoping to try it out over the weekend. As I didn't want to dismantle my trusty linux box, I borrowed a machine from work that has a SCSI hard disc but an IDE CD drive. Unfortunately, nextstep 3.3 for intel won't install from an IDE CD drive, I get the chance to choose an IDE interface for a hard disc, but not for a CD! Is there a way around this? I'm itching to try Nextstep for myself, but this daft limitation has put a stop to that little plan. My normal box has IDE hard disc and CD, so I can't use that either. I know SCSI is better BTW, but I can't get a SCSI setup as it costs too much to get one that's worth having, and I'm certainly not getting a new CD and interface just for installation! Thanks for any help offered. -- Ian Rawlings - ** decode anti-spam address to contact me **
From: customer <customer@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: fsck missing superblocks Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:32:14 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Aug 1997 19:33:13 GMT We had a brownout which hosed the Maxtor XT-8760S in my venerable '040 cube running 3.3. When the power was stable I powered on and the disk will spin up and home but not come ready. It retries every 8 seconds. A disk recovery company was able to copy the sectors to another disk but fsck says "BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG" and the /etc/disk scan function can't find any alternates. The /etc/disk label print and block 16 look reasonable (what I know of them). Is there any way I can write a good magic number in block 16 and fsck -b 16??? Please e-mail daugher@cs.tamu.edu. Many thanks! P.S. The sector size (block size) is 1024.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: fsck missing superblocks Message-ID: <33F0BA5D.FB62D1AA@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> From: customer <customer@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:32:45 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Aug 1997 19:33:43 GMT We had a brownout which hosed the Maxtor XT-8760S in my venerable '040 cube running 3.3. When the power was stable I powered on and the disk will spin up and home but not come ready. It retries every 8 seconds. A disk recovery company was able to copy the sectors to another disk but fsck says "BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG" and the /etc/disk scan function can't find any alternates. The /etc/disk label print and block 16 look reasonable (what I know of them). Is there any way I can write a good magic number in block 16 and fsck -b 16??? Please e-mail daugher@cs.tamu.edu. Many thanks! P.S. The sector size (block size) is 1024.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5t9e66$5qn5232@ren.usr.com> Control: cancel <5t9e66$5qn5232@ren.usr.com> Date: 18 Aug 1997 13:37:59 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t9e66$5qn5232@ren.usr.com> Sender: help@yourself.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: fugue@ccp.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: fsck missing superblocks In-Reply-To: customer's message of Tue, 12 Aug 1997 14:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: <ukv4t8u9j5m.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:50:29 GMT customer <customer@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> said: > > We had a brownout which hosed the Maxtor XT-8760S in my venerable > '040 cube running 3.3. When the power was stable I powered on and the > disk > will spin up and home but not come ready. It retries every 8 seconds. > A disk > recovery company was able to copy the sectors to another disk but fsck > says "BAD > SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG" and the /etc/disk scan function > can't find any alternates. The /etc/disk label print and block 16 look > reasonable > (what I know of them). Is there any way I can write a good magic number > in block > 16 and fsck -b 16??? Please e-mail daugher@cs.tamu.edu. Note: Please read newsgroups in which you ask for a response. :) Now then. You should be able to directly fsck on block 16, as 16 is always a backup superblock w/a good magic number (on at least 4 UNIXen I can think of, including NS/OS). However, you should be aware that it'll only work if the underlying data hasn't been too severely hosed. Depending on the data integrity, a fsck may or may not get your fs back. But then, you've got a recent level 0 of it, right? :) --Mark
From: Pomperle<> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: after 800 hours of work, Date: 18 Aug 1997 13:49:26 GMT Organization: Telecom Italia - Video On Line Message-ID: <5t9jt6$gga@everest.vol.it> now its done http://www.webko.it/pomperle
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5t9jt6$gga@everest.vol.it> Control: cancel <5t9jt6$gga@everest.vol.it> Date: 18 Aug 1997 16:13:35 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t9jt6$gga@everest.vol.it> Sender: Pomperle<> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "dgrant" <darren@oxford.i-way.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI HD and IDE CD-ROM Date: 18 Aug 97 21:53:39 GMT Organization: UUNet UK server (post doesn't reflect views of UUNet UK) Message-ID: <01bcac1f$85e0d800$6fc081c2@Darren.i-way.co.uk> A bit of advice that I would like to share with you all. From my experience of Mach 4.1 If anyone is considering using one of the new very fast and very cheap ATAPI CD-ROM drives for a new intel based system but still use SCSI for HD's due to it's better performance. At first it would seem that it is not possible because when you run the installer it complains that their is no valid HD. This is due to the APATI CD driver loading before the SCSI controler driver. The installation process expects the CD boot HD to be th lowest SCSI Device and the installation CD somwhere higher up the scale. After a lot of fiddling and hair pulling I found a way. Make sure your primary HD has an ID of 0 and that the ATAPI CD is on the primary IDE interface. If you have an IDE HD as well you must use the CD in slave mode otherwise just connect it by itself as a Master. Simply tell the installer that both your CD-ROM drive and your HD are on the SCSI interface. Then Install the EIDE/ATAPI driver as an extra driver, the instalation will then proceed loading the SCSI driver first and assigning your HD the lowest device number. Then the EIDE driver will load and assume the next available ID. In some installations you may be asked for the location of the root device, simply type the number of the drive. Hope this helps someone.
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 19 Aug 1997 03:41:53 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5tb4m1$m3j@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> In-Reply-To: <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> On 08/15/97, Scott Hess wrote: >Dammit, and I can't afford a Millenium-II w/12M plus a 21" monitor >capable of 1920x1200 right now, sigh. And even with more than twice >the screen real estate, I don't imagine even a 21" is really very >workable at that res (sort of like running a 17" monitor at >1600x1200). Sony has a new 24" color monitor for a mere $4500. ;-) Weighs a ton but for some applications (like CAD), it is very much desirable. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Configuring an internal modem Date: 19 Aug 1997 05:15:31 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5tba5j$ca1$1@news.platinum.com> References: <33E52D91.3D86@middlemarch.net> Cc: gh@middlemarch.net In <33E52D91.3D86@middlemarch.net> gh@middlemarch.net wrote: > When I boot the computer with Win95, the modem is set > to COM3 and runs fine. In the computer's hardware > setup, serial ports A and B are currently set to Auto > but can also be set to COM 1,2,3 or 4, or Disabled. > The IRQ and port addresses are automatically set when > you select the COM number. Your best bet is to configure the modem to use the more generic COM 2, IRQ 3 It is important that no other devices use this com setting or IRQ -- only the second serial driver. You will also want to load one instance of the TTY Port Server device driver. This is the default for most modems nowadays. Attempting to over-load IRQs, or attempting to use COM3/4 won't likely work well with NeXTSTEP, NT, or UNIX. When you get this done, watch the boot-up messages (type "-v" at the "boot:" prompt). You may see an indication that the serial drivers loaded properly, or did not load properly. The modem that came with my HP Pavilion does not use a standard UART, and the serial driver echoed a message to the console during boot that clearly indicated failure. If the messages scroll by too fast to read, view the file "/usr/adm/messages" in a Terminal.app window after you have booted, and look for messages relating to the serial port. then, try to set up PPP. It should "just work" if your serial drivers are loaded, etc. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine, Systems Architect|"If nominated, I shall PLATINUM technology, inc. | not run. If elected, longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | I shall not serve." (612) 688-3033 & MIME) | (Pat Paulsen for President)
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From: gh@middlemarch.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PPP connection problem Date: Tue, 19 Aug 1997 22:16:58 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <33FA539A.561C@middlemarch.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having problems getting PPP to run properly. I've installed PPP 2.2 and GateKeeper 2.1 on Openstep 4.0/Intel. I select the Dial command from GateKeeper, enter the phone number and get a connection to my ISP. The terminal window pops up and I enter my user name, password, select PPP (my ISP requires that I select PPP or SLIP etc. from a menu), then the ascii garbage starts filling the window. When I click on the GateKeeper ppp switch at this point, I get the following response in the Diagnostics window: /usr/local/bin/pppd -detach file /LocalApps/GateKeeper.app/options Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton pppd[344]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: abort on (BUSY) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: abort on (NO CARRIER) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: abort on (ERROR) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: send (AT&F^M) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: expect (OK) Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: alarm Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton chat[346]: Failed Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton pppd[344]: Connect script failed Aug 16 12:51:22 tipton pppd[351]: pppd 2.2.0 started by root, uid 0 What's going wrong and how can I get a PPP connection at this point? Thanks, Greg
From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: OpenStep4.2 IDE support?? Date: 20 Aug 1997 03:41:52 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <5tdp20$buf@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> Hi, I just ordered OpenStep4.2 for Intel machines. But now I've been reading lots about how little IDE hardware is supported. Now, I have about $200 to spend for new hardware. Would my best bet be to buy a $100 SCSI controller and cheap HD, or to buy a nice big IDE drive? Can people out their explain their experiences with OpenStep and IDE drives? thanks in advance, LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
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From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 18 Aug 1997 07:46:08 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5t8uk0$hch$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <5t3hri$s8i$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) wrote: > I've got an 8M Millenium running the 4.03 version of the Millenium driver. I > had no luck getting the 4.05 version of the Millenium driver working. (Crashed > the system during boot.) Anyone else having problems? I am currently testing a Millennium II and it works just fine. Do you have Omnigroup's PentiumPro driver running? It should be disabled when you change graphic cards and re-enabled when the new driver is up and running. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help: N3DCamera.... Date: 15 Aug 1997 11:53:17 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5t1fvd$aa6$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5t0ve1$m45$2@news.cc.umr.edu> Sanjeev Agarwal <sanjeev@umr.edu> wrote: > I am having problem to understand the N3DCamera class. Is the > world coordinate assumed to be left handed too (like the camera > coordinates). [...] Yes, it is. By default, N3DCamera and the whole RenderMan system use left-handed coordinate systems for everything (camera, world, rotations, texture placement, vertex ordering, etc.). You can simply change all signs of the affected axis in your geometric database to solve your CAD-problem. Or simply use a transformation like RiScale(1.0, 1.0, -1.0) to let RenderMan flip the z-axis. To get the inside / outside orientation of polygon vertex ordering right, you can use the command RiOrientation(RI_RH) to switch to a right-handed system. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
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From: "Scott E. Snyder" <natural1@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi,admin,comp.sys.sgi.misc,.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: System for Sale Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 05:35:16 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <33FAE484.1CFB@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am selling my WebForce Indy: Asking $3000.00 obo CONTACT: SCOTT SNYDER 510-843-5372 E-MAIL: natural1@slip.net the system has NFS and Photoshop and Illustrator.. 32 Mbytes of Ram 1 gig internal IndyCam specs: Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 Main memory size: 32 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit -- Scott E. Snyder Highly Graphic, Inc. Website: http://www.slip.net/~natural1 E-mail: natural1@slip.net Voice: 510.843.5372
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From: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Date: 21 Aug 1997 20:04:01 GMT Organization: Charter Communications International, Inc. Message-ID: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> FWIW - at least the Johnson Space Center did have some NeXT computers until recently. I just walked thru the Surplus building (Building 422) and there is a beautiful 19 in mono Black monitor sitting there waiting for an owner. Of course I alerted the folks at the nearby University - they have a NeXT lab. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal web page at: <http://www.academ.com/houston/recycling> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EF8B3J.C94@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 20:18:55 GMT References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <5tb4m1$m3j@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5tb4m1$m3j@fridge-nf0.shore.net>, Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote: > >Sony has a new 24" color monitor for a mere $4500. ;-) Weighs a ton >but for some applications (like CAD), it is very much desirable. > Yeah. I've used 23" monitors before (some IBM thing--can't remember the number) and they're pretty neat. Great for trade shows. But as you said, moving them is, uh, unpleasant. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu (JB.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Upgrade ONLY Mail.app 3.2 to Mail.app 3.3? Date: 22 Aug 1997 01:53:50 GMT Organization: C.A. Message-ID: <5tirfe$564@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Can anyone think of any reason why I could not upgrade ONLY Mail.app 3.2 to Mail.app 3.3 by replacing the existing 3.2 reader in NextApps? I'll pick-up MIME and a few other features by doing so, but I wanted to be sure that I wouldn't 'pick-up' any unexpected problems as well :-) John
From: sitzkrieg@erols.com (Sitzkrieg Redundus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I hate the word "newbie", but... Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 03:01:27 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> 'kay. Just getting in the NeXT platform thing, and the (limited) information I've found thus far has been mostly helpful, but questions do linger (Those darn questions-- always hanging ao\round after everyone else has gone home!) The first major question is: Was there or was there not a 33Mhz 68040 based Cube? I've seen references to Turbo Cubes, but didn't know if there were refering to the 040's or the original 030's. Is there a version of the NeXT OS that's is considered "more stable" than others? I know Mac users are always arguing which release is the best, but didn't know if it applied to the NeXT universe. Exactly how upgradable are the slabs? For example, what is the hardware difference between the Mono and the Color models, and are Cubes generally the more versatile? Finally, I've heard no-to-great things about the Pyro board, and the Nitro board seems to be almost impossible to locate (y'all already have 'em all! ;) -- were any other accelerators made? If so where?! If not, who do I have to mug to get a Nitro? I'm not a newbie to the Net by any means, and I know Mac stuff pretty well. I've pretty much wrung the last drop of blood out of Altavista, and links off of links off of links. Any and all help/web sites/information would be quite cool. Thanx. --noah
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: OpenStep4.2 IDE support?? Date: 22 Aug 1997 05:12:21 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5tj73l$b1s$2@news.platinum.com> References: <5tdp20$buf@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> Cc: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu In <5tdp20$buf@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> Larry A. Latson, Jr. wrote: > > Hi, > > I just ordered OpenStep4.2 for Intel machines. But now I've > been reading lots about how little IDE hardware is supported. > > Now, I have about $200 to spend for new hardware. Would my > best bet be to buy a $100 SCSI controller and cheap HD, or > to buy a nice big IDE drive? Can people out their explain their > experiences with OpenStep and IDE drives? You must have been reading the new "Prelude to Rhapsody Self-support site" which has BOGUS information about OpenStep 4.2 that REALLY NEEDS TO BE FIXED. OpenStep 4.2 works fine on IDE systems. IDE has been supported by OPENSTEP for years, and I've run it on several IDE and EIDE systems. It works fine. My advice is "Don't spend any money on new hardware until you get it and try it." If everything you have works, you can spend the money on RAM, and that's always best. Also, consult www.next.com (NeXTanswers web site) for accurate information on supported hardware, trouble-shooting tips, etc. The prelude self-support site is pretty good over-view material, but for details, go to NeXTanswers. /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine, Systems Architect|"If nominated, I shall PLATINUM technology, inc. | not run. If elected, longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | I shall not serve." (612) 688-3033 & MIME) | (Pat Paulsen for President)
From: longsine_nospam_@platinum.com (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I hate the word "newbie", but... Date: 22 Aug 1997 05:20:57 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5tj7jp$b1s$3@news.platinum.com> References: <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> Cc: sitzkrieg@erols.com In <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> Sitzkrieg Redundus wrote: > 'kay. Just getting in the NeXT platform thing, and the (limited) > information I've found thus far has been mostly helpful, but questions > do linger (Those darn questions-- always hanging ao\round after > everyone else has gone home!) > > The first major question is: Was there or was there not a 33Mhz 68040 > based Cube? I've seen references to Turbo Cubes, but didn't know if > there were refering to the 040's or the original 030's. Why on earth do you care? If I remember correctly, yes, but not many were made. > Is there a version of the NeXT OS that's is considered "more stable" > than others? I know Mac users are always arguing which release is the > best, but didn't know if it applied to the NeXT universe. You should run OPENSTEP 4.2, or NeXTSTEP 3.3 (with the patch). It's not so much a matter of stability, as maturity. NS 3.3 is feature complete NeXTSTEP, and OPENSTEP 4.2 is feature complete OPENSTEP. > Exactly how upgradable are the slabs? Not. > For example, what is the > hardware difference between the Mono and the Color models, and are > Cubes generally the more versatile? my patience is wearing thin... how about you surf to www.stepwise.com, find the remaining outlets for used black hardware (spherical solutions, and a couple others, i forget...) then surf up their sites and read up on the specs... > Finally, I've heard no-to-great things about the Pyro board, and the > Nitro board seems to be almost impossible to locate (y'all already > have 'em all! ;) -- were any other accelerators made? If so where?! If > not, who do I have to mug to get a Nitro? The only person who has ever admitted to having a Nitro is Steve Jobs. He bought one of the last off the line. I think he deserves to keep it. > I'm not a newbie to the Net by any means, and I know Mac stuff pretty > well. I've pretty much wrung the last drop of blood out of Altavista, > and links off of links off of links. Any and all help/web > sites/information would be quite cool. check out www.stepwise.com for a good source of NeXTSTEP info, and also www.webcrawler.com for another nice search engine, with NeXTSTEP roots... /gary - -- --- ----- ------- ----------- ------- ----- --- -- - Gary W. Longsine, Systems Architect|"If nominated, I shall PLATINUM technology, inc. | not run. If elected, longsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | I shall not serve." (612) 688-3033 & MIME) | (Pat Paulsen for President)
From: nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I hate the word "newbie", but... Date: 22 Aug 1997 13:34:52 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tk4hs$j6a$8@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: sitzkrieg@erols.com While you are at Stepwise checking out the answers to your questions, make sure you read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html which explains how to post to these newsgroups, rather than spamming 4 different newsgroups to ask your question. TjL, a little tired of Mac'ers-spam-shotgun-crossposts
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Upgrade ONLY Mail.app 3.2 to Mail.app 3.3? Date: 22 Aug 1997 13:42:19 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5tk4vr$j6a$9@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5tirfe$564@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu In <5tirfe$564@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> JB. wrote: > Can anyone think of any reason why I could not upgrade ONLY Mail.app 3.2 > to Mail.app 3.3 by replacing the existing 3.2 reader in NextApps? I'll > pick-up MIME and a few other features by doing so, but I wanted to be sure > that I wouldn't 'pick-up' any unexpected problems as well :-) I can promise you no problems at all. I did this for awhile when Allegheny was in a state of flux, with some machines on 3.2 and some on 3.3. Just rename 3.2's Mail.app to something else, and copy the 3.3 Mail.app to /NextApps. Works nicely. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 22 Aug 1997 16:14:57 GMT Organization: Texas Instruments Message-ID: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Many moons ago I managed to set up my TeX installation so that it would use Postscript fonts by default instead of the standard LaTeX fonts. I have since upgraded to OS 4.2 and had to reinstall TeX (teTeX). I cannot remember what I did to make LaTeX use Postscript fonts. A quick peruse of the LaTeX books only turned up complicated approaches using the NFSS (Forgot the exact name). If anybody know how to do this (or a pointer to the info) I would appreciate a note! Thanks in advance, Steve --- Stephen J. Perkins NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/ -- --- Stephen J. Perkins NetMass Communications, e-mail: perkins@netmass.com NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: "Hunter Hillegas" <timebomb@west.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: I hate the word "newbie", but... Date: 22 Aug 1997 17:49:45 GMT Organization: Jacob Stern & Sons Message-ID: <01bcaf23$36415a20$86c147cf@jacob-1> References: <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> <5tj7jp$b1s$3@news.platinum.com> Why do you respond if you don't want to answer the questions? Hunter Gary W. Longsine <longsine_nospam_@platinum.com> wrote in article <5tj7jp$b1s$3@news.platinum.com>... > In <33fcfe76.39318381@news.erols.com> Sitzkrieg Redundus wrote: > Why on earth do you care? If I remember correctly, yes, but not many were > made. > my patience is wearing thin... how about you surf to www.stepwise.com, find > the remaining outlets for used black hardware (spherical solutions, and a > couple others, i forget...) then surf up their sites and read up on the > specs...
From: ťëúĚme@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Date: 23 Aug 1997 00:41:44 GMT Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center -- Greenbelt, Maryland USA Message-ID: <5tlbk8$1os@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> References: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> phillips@nospam.phoenix.net wrote: >FWIW - at least the Johnson Space Center did have some NeXT computers >until recently. [munch] A small bunch of us at GSFC bought some Cubes in 1990. We wanted computers that "just worked", and were not happy with the mainframes or minis or micros we had been using. These NeXTs are (mostly) still in daily use, and working fine. (What do you suppose has happened to the mains and minis and PCs and Macs that were bought at that time?) I bought a Cube for home use last fall, and usually use it in preference to the 166 Mhz PC next to it: the PC runs each of its programs faster (in some sense of "faster"), but the NeXT almost always gets the work done sooner since the various Apps can cooperate better. Perhaps you will remember NASA's 1994 visit to the Hubble Space Telescope, when the mirror's figure was corrected and some other changes were made? There was live coverage of much of the action. Complimenting this was a speaker who would promptly show slides of selected images, with captions, commenting on various features. Behind the curtain was a NeXTDimension Cube with a direct video feed from the Shuttle. Images were captured and pasted into viewgraphs, captions were added, and then printed onto color transparencies, and passed out to the speaker: NeXT gear all, run by the very skilled Jim Royston. He took a minute or two per viewgraph, and went on for many hours --- he, and the NeXT, "just worked". Jim had borrowed a Cube from the family he had arranged for video/sound conferencing using stock NeXT equipment in 1992 (or so). Henning Leidecker
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXTSTEP Consultant available for Colorado Date: 23 Aug 1997 15:23:49 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5tmva5$358u@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Hi - I've been working with NS since 1991 and in the computer industry since 1983. My emphasis for consulting work is maintenance programming and object-oriented analysis and design. If you have a large or small project (perhaps porting code to NEXTSTEP in anticipation of Rhapsody?) then send me some email. My fees are reasonable and I have a broad range of experience. I will be in Fort Collins, Colorado, this Monday and Tuesday-- August 25th and 26th. Regards, R.D. Warner, owner Perceptual Research Ventures rwarner@prv.com http://www.gj.net/prv/
From: ayesham@gte.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS: N3000 Optical Drives Date: 23 Aug 1997 18:01:14 GMT Organization: gte.net Message-ID: <5tn8ha$7ih$1@gte2.gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have 6 N3000 Next Optical Drives, 256mb each. No documentation or media, just the bare drives. If interested make me an offer Model # N3000 Part # 294.00 thanks Nadeem
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@vnet.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 07:17:31 +0200 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <33FA7DEB.237C@vnet.ibm.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <5tb4m1$m3j@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert La Ferla wrote: > > On 08/15/97, Scott Hess wrote: > >Dammit, and I can't afford a Millenium-II w/12M plus a 21" monitor > >capable of 1920x1200 right now, sigh. And even with more than twice > >the screen real estate, I don't imagine even a 21" is really very > >workable at that res (sort of like running a 17" monitor at > >1600x1200). > > Sony has a new 24" color monitor for a mere $4500. ;-) Weighs a ton > but for some applications (like CAD), it is very much desirable. > > Robert Hmm. If you use a Trinitron it is no problem in doing 1600x1200 with a 17" monitor. And 1800x1440 with 20" is better. I can't see any problem. Henry ----------- http://www.ti6.tu-harburg.de/~ti6hk/index.html ------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany voice : +49-7031-16-3516 \|/ fax : +49-7031-16-3328 o(O O)o voice,BBS & fax : +49-7031-276113 (private) \ / ------------------ Email: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com ----ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Date: 24 Aug 1997 03:53:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <858131393554.2044370781@t.com> Control: cancel <858131393554.2044370781@t.com> Date: 24 Aug 1997 09:04:33 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.858131393554.2044370781@t.com> Sender: t@t.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Babak Ashrafi Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: open -p never works!? Date: 24 Aug 1997 20:46:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5tq6jh$kqd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> For every app and file type I have tried to open with "open -p file.type" or "open -p -o file.type", I get, for example, "open: can't open connection to Edit on local host". How does one print .rtf or .pbm files from the command line? Has anyone gotten open -p to work with any app? I am using NS3.3 on a turbo NeXT station. Thanks for any info you can offer Babak please correct reply-to address in headers
From: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Date: 24 Aug 1997 03:46:32 GMT Organization: Charter Communications International, Inc. Message-ID: <5toaqo$hja$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> References: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5tlbk8$1os@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My Account <ťëúĚme@leidecker.gsfc.nasa.gov> wrote: : phillips@nospam.phoenix.net wrote: : >FWIW - at least the Johnson Space Center did have some NeXT computers : >until recently. [munch] : A small bunch of us at GSFC bought some Cubes in 1990. We wanted computers that "just worked", and were not : happy with the mainframes or minis or micros we had been using. These NeXTs are (mostly) still in daily use, : and working fine. (What do you suppose has happened to the mains and minis and PCs and Macs that were bought [snip] : per viewgraph, and went on for many hours --- he, and the NeXT, "just worked". Jim had borrowed a Cube from : the family he had arranged for video/sound conferencing using stock NeXT equipment in 1992 (or so). : Henning Leidecker Maybe I will add this to my [very low S/N ratio] NeXT page - make it useful. Anyone interested? We also need to find out the history of the CIA NeXTs and make that available. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: "dave james" <djames@mpct.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep / Nextstep developers we want you in downtown Chicago !!! Date: Mon, 25 Aug 1997 10:00:12 -0500 Organization: mpct Solutions Limited Message-ID: <5ts6fc$r7u@bronwyn.mpct.com> If interested email djames@mpct.com and we'll get back to you.
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 8 72pin SIMM sockets. What is this thing? Date: 15 Aug 1997 05:03:12 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5t0nug$1gf6@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <01bca914$0a9e0720$aa098bcc@isp.isp.net> "gmrca" <gmrca@isp.net> wrote: >I have a Color NeXTStation, and need to know WhAT it is. >All of the specs that I see point to a slab having 4 SIMM >sockets, and 128megs max RAM. Does this mean I could >do 256? Or that it won't accept 32meg SIMMs? You have a first generation 25MHz NeXTstation Color. It has eight 72 pin SIMMs for 12-32 MB of interleaved memory. The SIMMs take only 1MB or 4MB parts. Sorry - you're limited to 32MB max. >In addition, are there any hardware hacks to increase speed >on a slab? Other than buying a 33MHz Turbo Color motherboard ($150 from http://www.deepspacetech.com), not really. There is a 50MHz 68040 Pyro daughtercard but I doubt you'll ever find one for sale and it'll cost you a lot even if you do (its a collectors item). Then there's the 40MHz Nitro daughtercard for Turbo machines, but if you found one of those for under $1000 I'd have to kill you! :-) It is beyond a collectors item and has gained a status closer to that of the Holy Grail... - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 25 Aug 1997 20:41:47 +0200 Organization: Apatheia Corp. Sender: gewil@ue801be Distribution: world Message-ID: <x7rabi85qs.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: > Many moons ago I managed to set up my TeX installation so that it > would use Postscript fonts by default instead of the standard LaTeX > fonts. > > I have since upgraded to OS 4.2 and had to reinstall TeX (teTeX). I > cannot remember what I did to make LaTeX use Postscript fonts. A > quick peruse of the LaTeX books only turned up complicated approaches > using the NFSS (Forgot the exact name). > > If anybody know how to do this (or a pointer to the info) I would > appreciate a note! As far as I know, a simple \usepackage{times} (or palatino, helvet, avant etc) in the document preamble will replace the original TeX fonts by postcript fonts stored in ROM of your (postscript) printer. Sinon, the file psfonts.map is probably the starting point of further customization. Gerald P.S. Thank you for your work on NeXT ppp! -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Date: 26 Aug 1997 02:02:25 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5ttdfh$g4r$2@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5tlbk8$1os@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> <5toaqo$hja$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net In <5toaqo$hja$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> phillips@nospam.phoenix.net wrote: > > Maybe I will add this to my [very low S/N ratio] NeXT page - make it > useful. Anyone interested? We also need to find out the history of the CIA > NeXTs and make that available. > I'd be very curious to know. I always thought it was DIA and possibly NRO that owned the NeXTs, not the CIA. So if anybody has the scoop and can speak up, plz do so. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 26 Aug 1997 02:10:38 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5ttduu$g4r$3@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: perkins@netmass.com. In <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Stephen J. Perkins wrote: > I have since upgraded to OS 4.2 and had to reinstall TeX (teTeX). I > cannot remember what I did to make LaTeX use Postscript fonts. A I've had similiar problems in the last week and have tried asking Gregor Hoffliet about teTeX for NeXT without getting a reply. Anybody know if he's missing in action or off on holiday? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: michal@gortel.phys.ualberta.ca (Michal Jaegermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 26 Aug 1997 16:51:53 GMT Organization: Disorganized Bits Message-ID: <5tv1j9$e1o$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Stephen J. Perkins (perkins@netmass.com.) wrote: : : Many moons ago I managed to set up my TeX installation so that it : would use Postscript fonts by default instead of the standard LaTeX : fonts. It is not clear what you really want. Do you mean that you have Computer Modern in Type1 format and want to use these instead of bitmaps? In that case add to you config.ps lines like: p +cm.map p +ams.map assuming, of course, that cm.map and ams.map reflect correctly what is on your disk. Ready maps should be already there, although not included automatically, and they may require some adjustments depending on what you really have. If you just want substitute things like TimesRoman for cmmr and the like then the simplest way is to run pslatex my_source.tex instead of latex my_source.tex If you want a better control than that then 'fntguide' document, which is included into teTeX distribution has all details. All in all visiting 'doc' subdirectory in teTeX is a good idea. Lots of info there. Michal
From: "dave james" <djames@mpct.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Next / openstep developers needed in Chicago Loop area. Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 13:23:12 -0500 Organization: mpct Solutions Limited Message-ID: <5tv6o5$nr4@bronwyn.mpct.com> If interested email me at djames@mpct.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jackson@usenix.org (Jackson Dodd) Subject: USENIX 1998 ANNUAL TECHNICAL CONFERENCE - Call for Papers Message-ID: <EFJA2K.JHr@usenix.org> Keywords: USENIX, technical conference Organization: USENIX Association Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 18:30:20 GMT ANNOUNCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION USENIX 1998 Annual Technical Conference June 15-19, 1998, New Orleans, Louisiana ======================================== Papers due: December 5, 1997 ======================================== The 1998 USENIX Technical Conference Program Committee seeks original and innovative papers about the applications, architecture, implementation, and performance of modern computing systems. Papers that analyze problem areas and draw important conclusions from practical experience are especially welcome. Some particularly interesting application topics are: ActiveX, Inferno, Java, and other embeddable environments Distributed caching and replication Extensible operating systems Freely distributable software Internet telephony Interoperability of heterogeneous systems Nomadic and wireless computing Privacy and security Quality of service Ubiquitous computing and messaging A major focus of this conference is the challenge of technology: What is the effect of commodity hardware on how we build new systems and applications? What is the effect of next-generation hardware? We seek original work describing the effect of hardware technology on software. Examples of relevant hardware include but are not limited to: Cheap, fast personal computers Cheap, large DRAM and disks Flash memory Gigabit networks Wireless networks Cable modems WebTV Personal digital assistants Network computers The conference will also feature tutorials, invited talks, BOFs, and Vendor Exhibits. ============================================================= For more information about this event: * Visit the USENIX Web site: http://www.usenix.org/events/no98/index.html * Send email to the USENIX mailserver at info@usenix.org. Your message should contain the line: "send usenix98 conferences". * Or watch comp.org.usenix for full postings The USENIX Association brings together the community of engineers, system administrators, scientists, and technicians working on the cutting edge of computing. Its technical conferences are the essential meeting grounds for the presentation and discussion of the most advanced information on new developments in all aspects of advanced computing systems.
From: sanchez@newton.slu.edu (Dr. Paul Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 26 Aug 1997 16:42:34 -0500 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Message-ID: <t1bu2k4o51.fsf@newton.slu.edu> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Cc: perkins@netmass.com perkins@netmass.com. (Stephen J. Perkins) writes: > Many moons ago I managed to set up my TeX installation so that it > would use Postscript fonts by default instead of the standard LaTeX > fonts. > > I have since upgraded to OS 4.2 and had to reinstall TeX (teTeX). I > cannot remember what I did to make LaTeX use Postscript fonts. A > quick peruse of the LaTeX books only turned up complicated approaches > using the NFSS (Forgot the exact name). > > If anybody know how to do this (or a pointer to the info) I would > appreciate a note! Earlier this year BlueSky put their postscript fonts into the public domain and gave the copyright to the AMS. I NeXTified the fonts and put them out as an installer package at the Peak archive site. I thought I sent an announcement to comp.sys.next.announce at the time, but may have messed up and forgotten to do so. Everything you need should be at peak, though, in the TeX directory. -- --paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/ ================================================================ Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes! ================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Message-ID: <cdoutyEFJx51.Buu@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5tlbk8$1os@post.gsfc.nasa.gov> <5toaqo$hja$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5ttdfh$g4r$2@uuneo.neosoft.com> Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 02:48:37 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom2.netcom.com In article <5ttdfh$g4r$2@uuneo.neosoft.com>, Robert B. Love <rlove@antispam.neosoft.com> wrote: >I'd be very curious to know. I always thought it was DIA and >possibly NRO that owned the NeXTs, not the CIA. So if anybody >has the scoop and can speak up, plz do so. I know the man who was responsible for purchasing the NeXT's for some gov't agency. He never said exactly _which_ agency was using them, and I never asked. Given his position as a Air Force colonel I would tend to believe that DIA, NSA, and/or NRO used NeXT's. Any CIA purchasing would have gone through someone else, since that is a "civilian" agency. He is an interesting guy. At the time, he was the single largest customer for NeXT, funded the development of MSL's Notebook, and counseled Steve to drop hardware to save the company. No, I can't give you a definitive answer, but it's intriguing... :-) -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Marco van Dongen <MAA.vanDongen@student.unimaas.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:25:30 +0200 Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Limburg Distribution: inet Message-ID: <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research ================================================================ My name is Marco van Dongen and i am accounting student at the University of Maastricht (UM) in the Netherlands. To graduate i have to write a thesis. My thesis deals with the Internet and therefore i use this medium to address as many people as possible. I am going to write my thesis about the commercial use of the Internet. My focus will be on planning and implementing activities. What problems do you come across. What are the positive and what are the negative aspects. The paper will NOT be a technical paper. The paper will deal with the question how to deal/manage a growing load of information. I am looking for people to give me suggestions for literature, articles. People that work for companies and have first hand experiences. Research already been done by people. Companies that are willing to participate in a little research by questionaire send on email. Or anything that could possibly be of any help to me. Please respond to me on email. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + MAA.vanDongen@Student.unimaas.nl + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Marco van Dongen
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: cmsg cancel <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Control: cancel <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Date: 27 Aug 1997 12:47:36 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Sender: Marco van Dongen <MAA.vanDongen@student.unimaas.nl> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Ryan Woodsmall <woody@cdsinet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT 3.2 on IDE devices Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 09:51:35 -0500 Organization: University of Missouri - Columbia Message-ID: <34043EF6.3DDB7217@cdsinet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: woody@cdsinet.net Hello all, I recently purchased NeXTStep 3.2 Mach/Intel (It's shipping right now). I was wondering if there would be any way to install from or use my IDE CD-ROM drive, or if I have to get a SCSI CD drive. From what I have read, there's not much (if any) support for IDE CD-ROM's in NeXT 3.2... Anyway, getting a cheap SCSI controller and CD-ROM is not really a problem, as I work for a hardware store in Missouri. Just wondering if I could do it with the setup I have now. Thanks in advance for any replies. -- Ryan Woodsmall woody@cdsinet.net c716128@showme.missouri.edu
From: alvin@cse.ucsc.edu (Alvin Jee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Historical Note - NASA NeXTs Date: 27 Aug 1997 17:29:59 GMT Organization: UC Santa Cruz CS/CE Message-ID: <5u1o6n$cpn@darkstar.ucsc.edu> References: <5ti6vh$chq$3@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5toaqo$hja$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> <5ttdfh$g4r$2@uuneo.neosoft.com> <cdoutyEFJx51.Buu@netcom.com> In article <cdoutyEFJx51.Buu@netcom.com>, Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote: >I know the man who was responsible for purchasing the NeXT's for some >gov't agency. He never said exactly _which_ agency was using them, and I >never asked. Given his position as a Air Force colonel I would tend to >believe that DIA, NSA, and/or NRO used NeXT's. Any CIA purchasing would Last time I was at the NSA, I did see NeXTSTEP OS boxes lying around. Didn't see NeXT machines and didn't ask what they did with the OS, but this was in one of their buldings in which they did VLSI designs, among other things. -- Alvin Jee alvin@neander.com http://www.neander.com NeXTMail gleefully accepted!
From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: How to change a video driver from the boot II ? (suite) Date: 27 Aug 1997 19:47:32 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb321$d33b41e0$080e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello, I'm using Openstep for Mach 4.1 on Intel platform (P200) I have a Diamond 3D 3000 video card. The problem : I changed the video driver : I'd try to use the 3D 2000 driver, but when the computer is booting the driver don't work, I see nothing on the screen. I would change another time my driver (and use the 3D 3000 driver) but I can't use the configuration panel. I have only access on the promt ("boot : "). 1) I have use the boot with the Default option (boot : config=Default) but it the same result.) 2) like in NEXTSTEP 3.3, I try : boot -default then I try : boot : "Active Drivers"="PS2Mouse BusMouse SerialMouse ParallelPort VGA" and (boot:=-s) But anything is the good option : the screen still black or the system reboot Did another boot option wich can run the computer with another driver ? Please, give me the good answer and become a god for me... Laurent BARNILS solfra@worldnet.fr
From: tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl (Tom Hageman -- remove .dev.null to reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: open -p never works!? Date: 27 Aug 1997 23:45:29 GMT Organization: Warty Wolfs Sender: news@basil.icce.rug.nl (NEWS pusher) Message-ID: <EFLBJr.7uz@basil.icce.rug.nl> References: <5tq6jh$kqd@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Babak Ashrafi wrote: > For every app and file type I have tried to open with "open -p file.type" > or "open -p -o file.type", I get, for example, "open: can't open > connection to Edit on local host". > > How does one print .rtf or .pbm files from the command line? Has anyone > gotten open -p to work with any app? > > I am using NS3.3 on a turbo NeXT station. Your problem is twofold. - not many apps implement the `remote printing' protocol. (Edit.app is one of the few that does.) - /usr/bin/open is broken in 3.[123]. Get Christian Limpach's open replacement from one of the usual NeXT ftp archives. If you have Developer, you may want to apply the following patch: diff -c2rF^[-=A-Za-z_] /tmp/O_1_open.1.0.NI_s/open.1.0.NI.s/open.m ./open.m *** /tmp/O_1_open.1.0.NI_s/open.1.0.NI.s/open.m Mon May 9 23:37:42 1994 --- ./open.m Thu Nov 9 00:48:04 1995 *************** void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { *** 233,236 **** --- 233,237 ---- } case NONE: + noStat++; // [TRH] if there's no file, there's nothing to stat... break; case DISK: *************** void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { *** 283,287 **** if(fileMode==STDIN || fileMode==TEMP) { ! if([appSpeaker openTempFile:fname ok:&ok] || !ok) printf("%s: unable to open temp file: %s\n", appName, fname); --- 284,294 ---- if(fileMode==STDIN || fileMode==TEMP) { ! /* [TRH] Don't open empty temp files. */ ! if (fileMode==STDIN && buf.st_size == 0) ! { ! /* ...but still throw them away. */ ! unlink(fname); ! } ! else if([appSpeaker openTempFile:fname ok:&ok] || !ok) printf("%s: unable to open temp file: %s\n", appName, fname); *************** void main(int argc, char *argv[]) { *** 298,302 **** while(buf.st_mtime==last && !sleep(1)) ! stat(fname, &buf); } } else { --- 305,309 ---- while(buf.st_mtime==last && !sleep(1)) ! if (stat(fname, &buf) != 0) break; } } else { Hope this helps, -- __/__/__/__/ Tom Hageman <tom@basil.icce.rug.dev.null.nl> [NeXTmail/Mime OK] __/ __/_/ IC Group <tom@icgned.dev.null.nl> (work) __/__/__/ <<SPAMBLOCK: remove .dev.null to reply>> __/ _/_/ Confused? You won't be after the NeXT episode.
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 28 Aug 1997 05:49:48 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5u33hs$sv7@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> <5tb4m1$m3j@fridge-nf0.shore.net> <33FA7DEB.237C@vnet.ibm.com> In-Reply-To: <33FA7DEB.237C@vnet.ibm.com> On 08/19/97, Henry Koplien wrote: >Hmm. If you use a Trinitron it is no problem in doing 1600x1200 with >a 17" monitor. And 1800x1440 with 20" is better. I can't see any >problem. I am using a 20" Sony Trinitron and think that 1600x1200 on it is too small. 17" is unusable at that resolution. It has nothing to do with Trinitron or non-Trinitron. It has to do with screen size and resolution. Most systems including OPENSTEP and Windows use pixels as the base unit for sizing on-screen components. If you go to a higher resolution, the component gets smaller as there are now more pixels per inch. However, if in the future, this would change so that we used inches or mm for the base unit, the components would stay the same size but be rendered in a higher resolution. This would be a boon for text since characters would look smoother and graphics since curves would be smoother too. Of course, if it were anti-aliased too, it would be perfect! -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: using black hardware as soundcard substitute in a ns3.3 net Date: 28 Aug 1997 11:57:45 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <5u3p3p$773$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> does there exist a NSfIP 3.3 sound-driver which plays sounds by sending them to a serverprocess running on black hardware connected via ethernet? (sort of NXHosting for sound) daniel
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: using black hardware as soundcard substitute in a ns3.3 net Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:40:30 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EFMJ7J.DDu@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5u3p3p$773$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> In article <5u3p3p$773$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) writes: > does there exist a NSfIP 3.3 sound-driver which plays sounds by sending them > to a serverprocess running on black hardware connected via ethernet? (sort of > NXHosting for sound) > NXHosting for sound is supported at the code level. In the sound kit, you create an instance of a sound output device with the option to specifiy which machine it's on. You then use it just as you would the local device. maplay uses this and allows the host to be specified from the command line. However (as far as I know) there's no generic way to do this. It would be VERY easy for Apple to add this, such that the default device was controlled via a command line option. $an
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5tlg35$4rh$889@juliana.sprynet.com> Control: cancel <5tlg35$4rh$889@juliana.sprynet.com> Date: 28 Aug 1997 14:24:58 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5tlg35$4rh$889@juliana.sprynet.com> Sender: apptalk@sprynet.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 28 Aug 1997 16:08:35 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> Get issue #1 and #2 of the @Society Magazine Newsletter for only $5.00. This price includes postage to USA and Canada locations. We have less than 100 copies of issue #1 remaining and will be mailing issue #2 in September. Better yet, our one year subscription is only $15 USA and $18 Canada. Come by and check out our newly remodeled web pages at: http://www.oro.net/~tj Come join the fun! TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine Newsletter
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: The new Matrox driver is available on NeXTanswers Date: 28 Aug 1997 16:03:42 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Aug28112142@howard.doubleu.com> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com> In-reply-to: scott@doubleu.com's message of 15 Aug 97 09:00:34 In article <SCOTT.97Aug15090034@slave.doubleu.com>, scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) writes: The real question, methinks, is whether a Millenium-II is faster than the Millenium with these drivers, and how much faster. Given the graphics performance jolt I took when upgrading from Pentium to PentiumPro with a Millenium, I'm inclined to believe that it's unlikely to be much faster. Anybody? Anybody? I really am interested in this, since I already have a Millenium, and am in need of a second video card. But I'm not going to pay an eighty dollar premium unless the Millenium II gets a better NXBench than the Millenium on the same hardware... Thanks, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Laurent" <solfra@worldnet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 28 Aug 1997 17:29:13 GMT Message-ID: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Hello next-web afficionados, I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with Openstep for Mach 4.1. It is the same kind of file that Zip or Lha or Arj Windows files ? I need a program to expand this I suppose, but where can I find it (If you can send me...) ? Thank's a lot. Laurent BARNILS solfra@worldnet.fr
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 28 Aug 1997 18:10:02 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5u4etq$qo$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: solfra@worldnet.fr In <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> "Laurent" wrote: > Hello next-web afficionados, > > > I don't know how I can expand the files with the extension b.tar.gz with > Openstep for Mach 4.1. > > It is the same kind of file that Zip or Lha or Arj Windows files ? > I need a program to expand this I suppose, but where can I find it (If you > can send me...) ? > > > Thank's a lot. > > Laurent BARNILS > solfra@worldnet.fr > try "/usr/bin/gunzip" or "/usr/bin/gzip -d" to decompress the files (get rid of the .gz extension). You have to do this from the command line. the .tar part indicates it's a tar (tape archive) file (/bin/tar -xf file.tar, in the location you want it expanded). The GUI automatically has the ability to do do this. If you're going to try to do it from the command line, I'd recommend reading both man pages ("man tar" and "man gzip") to be sure you're using the right arguments, etc. The various archives also have "Openner.app", which is a GUI front end for things like gzip, gnutar, etc. It's a useful tool. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Thought for the day: According to the supreme court, proof of innocence isn't enough to avoid execution if you've exhausted your appeals.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Date: 28 Aug 1997 18:28:15 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u4fvv$pss$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: solfra@worldnet.fr PLEASE stop crossposting to so many newsgroups! There is a guide to posting to comp.sys.next.* at http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html It should be easy to pick _one_ group and post to that one. The program you are looking for is: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/archiveutil/Opener.3.3.NISH.b.tar.gz You can find the FAQ and other NeXTStep information at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 28 Aug 1997 19:57:29 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> In-Reply-To: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> On 08/28/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: >Get issue #1 and #2 of the @Society Magazine Newsletter for only $5.00. >This price includes postage to USA and Canada locations. > >We have less than 100 copies of issue #1 remaining and will be mailing >issue #2 in September. > >Better yet, our one year subscription is only $15 USA and $18 Canada. > Better yet, don't advertise in inappropriate newsgroups on Usenet. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: deniseh@best.com (Denise Howard) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Subject: Re: Tar.gz : how can I expand this files ? Followup-To: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,pgh.next-users,tw.bbs.comp.os.nextstep Date: 28 Aug 1997 21:07:26 GMT Message-ID: <5u4pae$lft$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> References: <01bcb3d8$02388e60$050e03c3@worldnet.sct.fr> <5u4etq$qo$2@cronkite.cygnus.com> John Rudd (jrudd@cygnus.com) wrote: : The various archives also have "Openner.app", which is a GUI front end for : things like gzip, gnutar, etc. It's a useful tool. Actually that's spelled "Opener.app", and yes, it's very useful. Once you have installed it on your machine, you'll never again have to recall the correct command-line options for a given utility and operation. You'll be able to simply double-click on the archive file, and Opener does the rest. You can also use it to create archive files. Best of all, Opener is FREEWARE. :-) Denise (Opener's mom) -- Denise Howard | PROGRAM, tr. v., An activity similar to Mountain View, CA | banging one's head against a wall, but deniseh@best.com | with fewer opportunities for reward. NeXTMail welcome! | http://www.best.com/~deniseh
From: rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 28 Aug 1997 23:55:55 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5u536b$5ds$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> <x7rabi85qs.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de In <x7rabi85qs.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Gerald Wildgruber wrote: > > As far as I know, a simple \usepackage{times} (or palatino, helvet, avant > etc) in the document preamble will replace the original TeX fonts by > postcript fonts stored in ROM of your (postscript) printer. But what if your goal is to include postscript fonts not resident on the printer? In my case I'm trying \usepackage{lucida}, a commerical Postscript font for TeX. I see in the NeXT previewer fine, it prints out OK on my NeXT printer. But when I take the postscript file to work to use a non-NeXT printer it fails because the fonts are not included. I created the postscript with dvips -Z but no font info gets stored. Any suggestions? ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Love MIME & NeXT Mail OK rlove@neosoft.com PGP key available ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: fsck missing superblocks Date: 27 Aug 1997 22:01:00 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <5u282s$hp7$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: customer@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu In <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> customer wrote: > We had a brownout which hosed the Maxtor XT-8760S in my venerable > '040 cube running 3.3. When the power was stable I powered on and the > disk > will spin up and home but not come ready. It retries every 8 seconds. > A disk > recovery company was able to copy the sectors to another disk but fsck > says "BAD > SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG" and the /etc/disk scan function > can't find any alternates. The /etc/disk label print and block 16 look > reasonable > (what I know of them). Is there any way I can write a good magic number > in block > 16 and fsck -b 16??? Please e-mail daugher@cs.tamu.edu. Hi there ! I had a similar problem with a disk and superblocks...but in my case it just fucked up, and wasn't copied or so.. The thing is that the filesystem contains MANY superblock-backups. I guess, though, that you don't know where they are. And it's a bit weird that scan can't find ANY alternates...in my case it could, but they had nothing to do with the numbers fsck needed, as there was an offset in between the two... I had (luckily) a backup of the disk init-process, so I could give fsck the right backup-number. Another way is, to TRY any fsck -b nn numbers. i know that there are many, but that's the only chance you get. And, within the first odd 30s or so, there should be 2 superblock-backups... Someone suggested to write a shell script for that, that contains a loop running fsck -bnn with growing numbers, until fsck finds a usable superblock and executes. Perhaps you can try that one. The other thing is, that some data still will be lost...in my case they were. Anyway, I hope i could help Bye Martin
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 29 Aug 1997 03:10:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <5u5eia$mjj@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5u536b$5ds$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> In article <5u536b$5ds$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) writes: >In <x7rabi85qs.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Gerald Wildgruber wrote: >> >> As far as I know, a simple \usepackage{times} (or palatino, helvet, >avant >> etc) in the document preamble will replace the original TeX fonts by >> postcript fonts stored in ROM of your (postscript) printer. > >But what if your goal is to include postscript fonts not resident >on the printer? In my case I'm trying \usepackage{lucida}, a >commerical Postscript font for TeX. I see in the NeXT previewer >fine, it prints out OK on my NeXT printer. But when I take the >postscript file to work to use a non-NeXT printer it fails because >the fonts are not included. I created the postscript with dvips -Z >but no font info gets stored. Any suggestions? I had similar problems with BlueSky PD fonts (see archives) for TeX and TeXview.app. You can create a PS file with included necessary fonts by first saving to a PS file from print panel, and then doing: /NextLibrary/Services/PrintFilters.service/psprepare filewithoutfonts.ps >filewithfonts.ps This apparently looks at the %%DocumentFonts line in the PS file: %%DocumentFonts: CMSSBX10 CMR10 CMTI10 CMBX10 CMB10 CMBX5 CMBX6 CMBX7 and includes fonts into the output. If the printer is directly connected, just previewing and printing the saved filewithoutfonts.ps from with Preview.app will include the necessary fonts if there is "_nxfinalform" property in the printer's NetInfo entry.
From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Postscript fonts in teTeX Date: 29 Aug 1997 04:53:46 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Message-ID: <5u5kkq$sff$1@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> References: <5tkdu1$t4$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> <x7rabi85qs.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> <5u536b$5ds$1@uuneo.neosoft.com> rlove@antispam.neosoft.com (Robert B. Love ) wrote: >But what if your goal is to include postscript fonts not resident >on the printer? In my case I'm trying \usepackage{lucida}, a >commerical Postscript font for TeX. You need to modify the map file. For instance, with the Bakoma fonts (you can find them packaged for NeXTSTEP on http://xxx.lanl.gov/ -- http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/pub/fonts/next/ -- this version is patched to provide more portable PDF than the usual Bakoma distribution), I use two map files. One doesn't include the fonts and starts off as: cmb10 cmb10 cmbsy10 cmbsy10 cmbsy6 cmbsy6 cmbsy7 cmbsy7 cmbsy8 cmbsy8 ,,, The other embeds the fonts: cmb10 cmb10 </LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmb10.font/cmb10 cmbsy10 cmbsy10 </LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmbsy10.font/cmbsy10 cmbsy6 cmbsy6 </LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmbsy6.font/cmbsy6 cmbsy7 cmbsy7 </LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmbsy7.font/cmbsy7 cmbsy8 cmbsy8 </LocalLibrary/Fonts/cmbsy8.font/cmbsy8 ... I set the default to embed the fonts by adding that map file to the bottom of the config.ps file for dvips. I also create a duplicate config file called config.noembed and call in the map file that doesn't embed the fonts. Then, to avoid embedding the fonts, I use dvips -Pnoembed ... I imagine you can do similar tricks with the Lucida fonts. Cheers, Mark
From: jwlee@artsci.wustl.edu (Jung Woo Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: amd processor Date: 29 Aug 1997 05:46:33 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering.
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: amd processor Date: 29 Aug 1997 06:29:25 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u5q85$gpk$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jwlee@artsci.wustl.edu In <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Jung Woo Lee wrote: > can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are > problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering. I believe so, because it does not have the multitasking bug that Cyrix does TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: jmeacham@meacham.charm.net (The Rev. James D. Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Best Alternative Web Dev Platform for Next User? Date: 29 Aug 1997 12:29:57 GMT Organization: Charm.Net Baltimore Internet Access, Hon (410) 558-3900 Message-ID: <5u6fc6$6gv$1@news2.charm.net> Hi All, Well, I've held out as long as I can, doing web development on my color turbo (which I love and will keep and use till it is dead, dead, dead), but, unfortunately, I must have something that runs Netscape with all that wizzy JavaScript and Java stuff. Question is, what is the best platform to do this on in terms of price/performance/etc? I've seen fully loaded SPARCstation 1, 1+, and 2s on misc.forsale.computers.workstation for between $250 - $500. Or should I (shudder) get an Intel machine instead? I really loathe Windows NT/95, and really would much prefer UNIX. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance... James -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- The Rev. James David Meacham Minister, Webmaster, Philosopher "If people did not sometimes do silly things, nothing intelligent would ever get done." -- Ludwig Wittgenstein
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: fsck missing superblocks Date: 29 Aug 1997 12:51:53 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5u6gl9$knk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> <5u282s$hp7$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de In <5u282s$hp7$2@news.rwth-aachen.de> Martin Klocke wrote: > In <33F0BA3E.2561BADE@chisholm.cs.tamu.edu> customer wrote: > > We had a brownout which hosed the Maxtor XT-8760S in my venerable '040 > > cube running 3.3. When the power was stable I powered on and the disk > > will spin up and home but not come ready. It retries every 8 seconds. A > > disk recovery company was able to copy the sectors to another disk but > > fsck says "BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG" and the /etc/disk scan > > function can't find any alternates. The /etc/disk label print and block > > 16 look reasonable (what I know of them). Is there any way I can write a > > good magic number in block 16 and fsck -b 16??? Please e-mail > > daugher@cs.tamu.edu. > > Hi there ! I had a similar problem with a disk and superblocks...but in my > case it just fucked up, and wasn't copied or so.. The thing is that the > filesystem contains MANY superblock-backups. I guess, though, that you > don't know where they are. And it's a bit weird that scan can't find ANY > alternates...in my case it could, but they had nothing to do with the > numbers fsck needed, as there was an offset in between the two... I had > (luckily) a backup of the disk init-process, so I could give fsck the right > backup-number. Another way is, to TRY any fsck -b nn numbers. i know that > there are many, but that's the only chance you get. And, within the first > odd 30s or so, there should be 2 superblock-backups... Someone suggested to > write a shell script for that, that contains a loop running fsck -bnn with > growing numbers, until fsck finds a usable superblock and executes. Perhaps > you can try that one. The other thing is, that some data still will be > lost...in my case they were. > > Anyway, I hope i could help Bye Martin The trick to locate alternate superblocks is: newfs -Nv /dev/rsd0a Matthew -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 15:13:00 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> And what newsgroup do you believe is the right ones. TJ @Society In article <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 08/28/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > >Get issue #1 and #2 of the @Society Magazine Newsletter for only > $5.00. > >This price includes postage to USA and Canada locations. > > > >We have less than 100 copies of issue #1 remaining and will be > mailing > >issue #2 in September. > > > >Better yet, our one year subscription is only $15 USA and $18 Canada. > > > > > Better yet, don't advertise in inappropriate newsgroups on > Usenet. > > > > > -- > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 17:17:58 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > And what newsgroup do you believe is the right ones. perhaps announcements, since that is what this is, or perhaps marketplace, since it has a loose definition these days as opposed to being just about selling NeXT hardware..... announcements would have been my choice Whatever the case, it should *not* have been crossposted, and especially not to csn.misc, as expressed clearly here: http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5u73ad$k8s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5u73ad$k8s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Date: 29 Aug 1997 18:57:12 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5u73ad$k8s@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Sender: onefreephonecard@hotmail.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 19:53:30 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2908971259280001@i525.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Thanks Timothy, Your comments were much more professional than the first post by the other person. As I mentioned in my email to you, I had tried the announce group, and after I had noticed it was not posted there, I opted for these other groups. I will try to limit any future cross posts. Thanks for your professional, and more kind approach about this subject. TJ @Society In article <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > > And what newsgroup do you believe is the right ones. > > perhaps announcements, since that is what this is, > > or perhaps marketplace, since it has a loose definition these days as opposed > to being just about selling NeXT hardware..... announcements would have been > my choice > > Whatever the case, it should *not* have been crossposted, and especially not > to csn.misc, as expressed clearly here: > > http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html > > TjL > > -- > "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having > workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people > knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: > http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 19:47:43 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 08/29/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >In <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: >> And what newsgroup do you believe is the right ones. > >perhaps announcements, since that is what this is, > I think it already was submitted. There is one that is in the outgoing queue now from them. >or perhaps marketplace, since it has a loose definition these days >as opposed to being just about selling NeXT hardware..... >announcements would have been my choice Mine too... except that all the postings below indicate a "devil may care attitude" towards where they go. > >Whatever the case, it should *not* have been crossposted, and >especially not to csn.misc, as expressed clearly here: > > http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html > Ah, but it wasn't crossposted, it was posted seperately to csn.marketplace and csn.misc There was also an ad sent into comp.sys.next.announce in the last 24 hours. There was a previous announcement/ad (08/18) posted to comp.sys.next.advocacy And another posted to comp.sys.next.hardware on (08/13) Not to mention that you were extremely apologetic the LAST time you were called on this, when you claimed that you were doing it just because you weren't in the search engines yet, and that you wanted to play within the rules.. What happened? Advertising in inappropriate groups is wrong. Its killing Usenet. We're lucky because the NeXT groups go fairly un-noticed as far as this goes, but it would be better if we weren't to be peeing in our own pool. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 20:46:16 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> Your points are well taken... Back then I was posting in ALL groups and VERY frequently. Since that time, I dropped back considerably. By dropping back as much as I thought I did, I thought all was well and had no other posts like yours. A simple, "hey, please keep the posts down or something like that" would have been a better approach. I do not believe I have over used any next newsgroup. Not every person subscribes to every group so that is why I switch to other groups. Normally, from the time I post a message in the Announce group, when should it show up. I had tried a couple times to the Announce group and after a while, opted to do the other groups because I felt my messages were not getting to that group or being ignored somehow. If you can shed some light on this, I am more than happy to post where posts should go. But when people make remarks like yours, which was not constructive, it gets us both no where. So out of this, I will become more professional if you would do the same. Let me know if you think something is wrong before posting a note like that. I am more than happy to do the right thing. Thanks Tom @Society In article <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 08/29/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > >In <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > >> And what newsgroup do you believe is the right ones. > > > >perhaps announcements, since that is what this is, > > > > I think it already was submitted. There is one that is in the > outgoing queue now from them. > > >or perhaps marketplace, since it has a loose definition these days > >as opposed to being just about selling NeXT hardware..... > >announcements would have been my choice > > Mine too... except that all the postings below indicate a > "devil may care attitude" towards where they go. > > > >Whatever the case, it should *not* have been crossposted, and > >especially not to csn.misc, as expressed clearly here: > > > > http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html > > > > Ah, but it wasn't crossposted, it was posted seperately to > > csn.marketplace and csn.misc > > There was also an ad sent into comp.sys.next.announce in the > last 24 hours. > > There was a previous announcement/ad (08/18) posted to > comp.sys.next.advocacy > > And another posted to comp.sys.next.hardware on (08/13) > > Not to mention that you were extremely apologetic the LAST > time you were called on this, when you claimed that you were doing it > just because you weren't in the search engines yet, and that you > wanted to play within the rules.. What happened? > > Advertising in inappropriate groups is wrong. Its killing > Usenet. We're lucky because the NeXT groups go fairly un-noticed as > far as this goes, but it would be better if we weren't to be peeing in > our own pool. > > > > -- > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: markm@winternet.com (Mark Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 29 Aug 1997 21:26:19 GMT Organization: Winternet Corporation, Mpls, MN Message-ID: <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> In article <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com>, Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: >On 08/28/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: >>Get issue #1 and #2 of the @Society Magazine Newsletter for only >>This price includes postage to USA and Canada locations. > > Better yet, don't advertise in inappropriate newsgroups on >Usenet. Indeed. He has persistantly spammed the NeXT newsgroups with his advertisement for his own selfish benefit. To be sure, that's one way to piss off a few people. -- Mark Miller | "The things that pass for knowledge I just markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 30 Aug 1997 03:35:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5u84e3$ora$1@news.digifix.com> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> In-Reply-To: <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> On 08/29/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: <snip> >Normally, from the time I post a message in the Announce group, >when should it show up. I had tried a couple times to the Announce >group and after a while, opted to do the other groups because I >felt my messages were not getting to that group or being ignored >somehow. > When it will show up on your site is anyone's guess. They get back out of here in less than 24 hours. They go out through 4 separate sites. Mind you, if I see them posted to other newsgroups before they get out of here, they don't go. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: barry@gslink.com (Barry Bocaner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: amd processor Date: 30 Aug 1997 04:08:17 GMT Organization: Cows Unlimited! Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5u86bh$me2@news1.mnsinc.com> References: <5u5nnp$e7n$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> that Jung Woo Lee (jwlee@artsci.wustl.edu) scribbled: > can anybody tell me if next will run on a amd k6 chip, i heard there are > problems with the cyrix chip....just wondering. I haven't tried it with NeXTStep, but I've had all sorts of problems with AMD chips and other hardware and with some software... -- --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Barry J. Bocaner <barry@gslink.com> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
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From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Compiler Date: 30 Aug 1997 08:12:45 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <5u8klt$gva@pith.uoregon.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: sharding Hi all...I just ordered a Color NeXTStation which comes with NS3.3 User. I have a question about that...Does the fact that it doesn't come with "developer" mean that it has no C/C++ compiler at all? I'm just hoping to have gcc/g++ and the appropriate libraries to be able to compile software. Is this possible out of the box? If not, is there an easy/cheap solution? sean ------ Sean Harding sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu Student Director of Orientation 372 Oregon Hall University of Oregon Office of Orientation 541-346-1159 http://oregon.uoregon.edu/~uointro/
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 30 Aug 1997 15:36:57 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-3008970843130001@i475.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908970818400001@i511.oro.net> <5u7086$nrm$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u790v$fjl$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2908971352160001@i496.oro.net> <5u84e3$ora$1@news.digifix.com> Thanks for the clear up. Although I have been using newsgroups for awhile, I had never had to wait that long for a post to show up. I was not sure if it was my system having problems or... Anyway, this matter should not be a big deal and easily taken care of for all of us. Take care, TJ @Society In article <5u84e3$ora$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 08/29/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > <snip> > > >Normally, from the time I post a message in the Announce group, > >when should it show up. I had tried a couple times to the Announce > >group and after a while, opted to do the other groups because I > >felt my messages were not getting to that group or being ignored > >somehow. > > > > When it will show up on your site is anyone's guess. They get > back out of here in less than 24 hours. They go out through 4 > separate sites. > > Mind you, if I see them posted to other newsgroups before they > get out of here, they don't go. > > > > > -- > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 30 Aug 1997 15:46:54 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> I have always thought that SPAM was when messages were left in newsgroups that had nothing to do with that group. In my case, I have left NeXT messages in NeXT groups. Is that considered Spamming?? Now that I better understand cross posting, I think I fall in that category, not spamming. But who nows, everyones idea of what is and what is not is different. As long as we communicate it to each other and make it better, rather than flog people because they make a mistake, all should be fine... TJ @Society *And as for the note below about selfish benefit, this person is dead wrong. If you have ever made a newsletter before, you would find it is a non profit situation. The money collected does not even pay for the supplies at times. This is being done for the fun and spreading the word about non wintel platforms like NeXT that we can all enjoy. Alot of out-of-pocket money supports this newsletter, of which I am happy to do. If you think it is for money, your way off base. I am meeting many new friends by doing this and having a BLAST!!! In article <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com>, markm@winternet.com (Mark Miller) wrote: > In article <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com>, > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> wrote: > >On 08/28/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > >>Get issue #1 and #2 of the @Society Magazine Newsletter for only > >>This price includes postage to USA and Canada locations. > > > > Better yet, don't advertise in inappropriate newsgroups on > >Usenet. > > Indeed. He has persistantly spammed the NeXT newsgroups with his > advertisement for his own selfish benefit. To be sure, that's one > way to piss off a few people. > > -- > Mark Miller | "The things that pass for knowledge I just > markm@winternet.com | can't understand." - Steely Dan
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: @Society Newsletter $5 Special Date: 30 Aug 1997 12:11:53 -0400 Organization: Data Systems Consulting, Inc. Message-ID: <5u9go9$3ug$1@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <tj-2808970915050001@i494.oro.net> <5u4l79$ek9$1@news.digifix.com> <5u7epr$bab$1@blackice.winternet.com> <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net> In article <tj-3008970853090001@i475.oro.net>, tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > I have always thought that SPAM was when messages were left in newsgroups > that had nothing to do with that group. In my case, I have left NeXT > messages in NeXT groups. Is that considered Spamming?? Spamming is when you post something to inappropriate newsgroups, especially when you post to many such groups. Since your article didn't belong in c.s.n.misc, that could be construed as spamming.
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