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From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 00:50:01 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 13:43:52 -0500, ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) wrote: > > >> .. >> So, let me guess... you probably think the older "high quality" Macs >> where hand made at a troll shop in upstate New York. > >Actually, they were manufactured in Fremont, California. > .. They may have been assembled in Fremont. There's a difference. .. .. > The fact is, since Apple doesn't manufacture any components, it's always >purchased parts from the very same sources as everyone else. .. >False. Many components are Apple-designed ASICs, and Apple spec'ed >components (like the Sony SuperDrive) that were manufactured exclusively >by Apple or for Apple by OEMs adhering to Apple specifications. .. I'm not sure what you mean here. ASICs have to be programmed or they're pretty much worthless. Apple and everyone else who uses ASICs (includes just about all the manufacturers) must program them and send'em off to be made... buy the *same* companies in the *same* plants. With the exception of the Lias twiggy drive (actually, I think *that* was made *for* them), I've never seen or heard of an Apple made drive. OEMs usually make stuff to customer specs. With the exception of some of the electronics and an extra "push the diskette out" solenoid, the SuperDrive is a regular Sony 3.5" drive. .. .. >Really wasn't until a couple of years ago that Apple started using the cheaper >industry- standard parts in order to more effectively compete with the Wintel >market in terms of pricing and availability. .. They've *always* used these parts. I have Apple II, made in Singapore, cards from 1978! .. .. >Apple's assembly quality has ranged from not-so-hot to above average. > >Absolutely not true. >Apple's quality is world renowned and they have garnered top awards >world-wide, among them the Malcolm Baldridge Award, J.D. Power, etc. .. One more time: Apple's assembly quality has ranged from not-so-hot to above average. .. > It's easy to find Intel PCs that are built better than anything Apple has >to offer. .. >I wish you would tell me where,seeing as I have worked at both Compaq and Dell, >both recognized as industry leaders, and am well-acquainted with their >commitment to quality, and have found them to rival, but not surpass >Apple, >in terms of overall quality. .. In terms of quality, Mylex and AMI make system boards that have no counterpart at Apple. There are some off shore companies like Abit & ASUSTeK that come embarrassingly close for less money. .. .. > It's easy because there is so many choices and so much competition. .. >Competition doesn't ensure quality, quite the opposite. >In the rush to bring products to market to effectively compete, >I have witnessed shorter beta-test cycles,relaxed quality controls, >and scaled-back commitments to supporting those products once they've >been deployed. .. If you consistently make junk and people have a choice you won't need to worry about making anything in the long run. Choice is a good thing. .. .. >I'm all for choice,however,although I'm not quite following you on >how choice relates to inherent quality. .. I didn't write that competition ensures quality. It does, however, better your chances of finding it. How could it be any different? .. ..
From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 01:16:55 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33b8580a.70890625@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <33b5d567.20998564@news.sover.net> <ckoller-2806972107190001@4.san-francisco-004.ca.dial-access.att.net> <33b728b9.17671059@news.sover.net> <AnhvR5K00iV_01uqg0@andrew.cmu.edu> On Mon, 30 Jun 1997 09:40:21 -0400, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: .. >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 30-Jun-97 Re: I give up, >Prelude is i.. by Lance Togar@msn.com >> chance, people do it all the time. I remember being called out to a >> local newspaper where the manager had plugged the *same* external SCSI >> drive into *two* Macs. He figured they could share it. Very logical >> when you think about it. .. >Of course it is. The SCSI standard covers situations where there are >multiple SCSI controllers (or "host adaptors" to you PeeCee people). .. Plug it into the SCSI for you Mac people. .. .. >> However, it *didn't* work. > >That's not surprising-- very few SCSI controllers properly arbitrate the >bus with other controllers since it's more expesnive to design them to >do it correctly, but there are some that do. .. The point was that this won't work on a Mac although it seems logical. All of the Adaptec controllers that I'm aware of will work as you describe. It the OSs that can't deal with it. .. .. >> BTW, most IDE cables are keyed and will only fit one way. > >"most" means "more than 50%", and my experience has been that your claim >is false. The majority of IDE cables I've seen are not keyed and will >fit both ways. .. All of the cables I've seen or purchased in the last year or so are keyed. I remember well because it's frequently a pain in the *** as are keyed ribbon SCSI cables. I usually don't bother and make my own. I *do*, however, press the stripe next to pin 2 - even if *I* don't use it that way. .. ..
From: stuttjc@eng.auburn.edu (James C. Stutts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: 1 Jul 1997 02:39:58 GMT Organization: Auburn University College of Engineering Message-ID: <5p9qlu$a1g@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu> References: <onhvcKS00iV_01urA0@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <onhvcKS00iV_01urA0@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 30-Jun-97 Re: I give up, >Prelude is i.. by James C. Stutts@eng.aubu >> You, of course, do realize we haven't had a 640K limit for quite some time. > >Odd thing: type 'mem' in a "MS-DOS Command Prompt" window, and take a >look at the section on conventional memory. > I use NT. This doesn't apply. Any way, it only applies for 95 in the emulation of DOS. The operating system itself does not have this limitation. <snip> > >> Also, most ISA configurations may be handled with the system's BIOS, >> which is usually point and click these days. > >"Most" != "all". I've seen so-called plug-n-play BIOS' misconfigure >themselves, and it's a royal pain to undo or move some non plug-n-play >to another IRQ/DMA channel in order to avoid a conflict. AMIBios doesn't have these problems. :) >> Interestingly enough, Sun will be using PCI slots soon, as SGI does now. >> More of that "crappy" PC tech, huh? > >Why, no-- PCI isn't Intel/PeeCee technology; go read your history on >who was involved in creating the PCI architecture. Fine, but its "PC", not "PeeCee." JCS
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From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 00:42:28 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gni8eoC00iWp0B8Ks0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <33b5d567.20998564@news.sover.net> <ckoller-2806972107190001@4.san-francisco-004.ca.dial-access.att.net> <33b728b9.17671059@news.sover.net> <AnhvR5K00iV_01uqg0@andrew.cmu.edu> <33b8580a.70890625@news.sover.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.advocacy: 1-Jul-97 Re: I give up, Prelude is i.. by Lance Togar@msn.com >> Of course it is. The SCSI standard covers situations where there are >> multiple SCSI controllers (or "host adaptors" to you PeeCee people). > .. > Plug it into the SCSI for you Mac people. Who are you talking about? I've never owned a Mac. [ ...I didn't see anything to comment on afterwards... ] -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
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From: Erik Doernenburg <erik@object-factory.REMOVE_ME.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Prolog for NeXt Date: 1 Jul 1997 08:23:52 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5paeqo$5m8$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <33B3CB70.BD9@goofy.zdv.uni-mainz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My personal favourite ist SICStus Prolog. It is fast, is similar to Quintus Prolog, compiles fine under various versions of NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP and allows for a painless intergration of either C code into the prolog interpreter or the complete prolog runtime into a "standalone" C program. But, alas, it is commercial. http://www.sics.se/sicstus.html If you are not willing to pay, you might want to have a look at SWI Prolog. It's fairly good as well but I found it difficult to compile and never got the C integration working properly. Also, it does of course accept standard Edinburgh syntax and has most of the "common" libraries but it might surprise you at times when you are used to Quintus. http://www.swi.psy.uva.nl/usr/jan/SWI-Prolog.html have fun erik -- Erik Dörnenburg -- OBJECT FACTORY -- Gesellschaft für Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH -- http://www.object-factory.com/~erik
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: NXImage.... Date: 1 Jul 1997 10:33:51 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5pamef$3b6$4@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I have a problem. I am working on a image processing application on NextStep 3.2. I am using NXImage class with NXBitmapImageRep to specify the bitmap for the image. For this I provide the image data as a unsigned char array to the "initData: pixelsWide: pixelsHigh:.... procedure of NXBitmapImageRep. Now I make some changes to the image data (by changing pixel value in the array)!! How do I make it visible on the window. I mean when I say display should the changes not show up on the window??? Please help... If I need to take some other path to composite the NXImage please let me know... Thanx in advance ... Sanjeev
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: 1 Jul 1997 05:57:28 -0700 Organization: Idiom Communications Message-ID: <5pauro$mdb@idiom.com> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) writes: > It's easy to find Intel PCs that are built better than anything Apple has >to offer. You can make an Intel PC with a solid titanium case, and a carved-moonrock faceplate, and it would still suffer from IBM's original design fuck-ups, not to mention Intel's pathetic excuse for a processor architecture. "Better Built", indeed. -jcr
From: ?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 07:59:23 -0500 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> > They may have been assembled in Fremont. There's a difference. I suppose you've worked in manufacturing for large computer companies before and can tell us all about it,right? It sounds like you're reaching, Lance. You really don't know that much about Apple equipment, so you're blowing smoke. > >False. Many components are Apple-designed ASICs, and Apple spec'ed > >components (like the Sony SuperDrive) that were manufactured exclusively > >by Apple or for Apple by OEMs adhering to Apple specifications. > .. > I'm not sure what you mean here. Sure you do. I don't think any of my post can be construed as misleading or vague. ASICs have to be programmed or> they're pretty much worthless. Apple and everyone else who uses ASICs > (includes just about all the manufacturers) must program them and > send'em off to be made... buy the *same* companies in the *same* > plants. With the exception of the Lias twiggy drive (actually, I think > *that* was made *for* them), I've never seen or heard of an Apple made > drive. OEMs usually make stuff to customer specs. With the exception > of some of the electronics and an extra "push the diskette out" > solenoid, the SuperDrive is a regular Sony 3.5" drive. Just because you haven't heard, or stated differently, have NO knowledge of something doesn't mean a damn thing. Reread my post, Lance. What does "manufactured for Apple by OEMs adhering to Apple specifications" mean? Your appraisal of the differences between Apple/reg Sony drives is laughable. Lessee, with the exception of the ROMs and a few Apple specific ASICs, and all the extra built-in features like fast SCSI and ethernet, the Apple logic boards are just regular PC logic boards, right,Lance? Get a grip. > .. > They've *always* used these parts. I have Apple II, made in Singapore, > cards from 1978! Engineered by Apple, produced by offshore labor. Your point is? I was actually referring to PCI and EIDE. > >Apple's quality is world renowned and they have garnered top awards > >world-wide, among them the Malcolm Baldridge Award, J.D. Power, etc. > .. > One more time: > Apple's assembly quality has ranged from not-so-hot to above average. One more time: You are full of shit. You obviously haven't the faintest idea about what constitutes quality. > In terms of quality, Mylex and AMI make system boards that have no > counterpart at Apple. There are some off shore companies like Abit & > ASUSTeK that come embarrassingly close for less money. One more time: You are full of shit. If I had a nickel for every bad AMI board I've had to swap out.... Abit's a nice board. Plug 'n Play, auto-configuring, what my Mac's had for years. Welcome to the party. > If you consistently make junk and people have a choice you won't need > to worry about making anything in the long run. Choice is a good > thing. That's probably why Apple just sold their 27 MILLIONTH Mac, and why they're backlogged. Good call. > .. > I didn't write that competition ensures quality. It does, however, > better your chances of finding it. How could it be any different? You proceed from a fallacious assumption; that competition ensures quality by making a quality product easier to find. The two are mutually exclusive.
From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 00:32:06 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33B744D6.236E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5p245b$27r@winter.erols.com> <5p2u2k$pnm@idiom.com> <33b72c98.582555230@nntp.idir.net> <5p3d46$a2n@newsb.netnews.att.com> <33b5d7b5.21588883@news.sover.net> <5p5jca$mfb@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John C. Randolph wrote: > > ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) writes: > > [munch] > >Well, I've the same experience with hardware and software. The PC > >platform seems fine for 10 of 1000s of developers. What's your problem > >with it... > > And McDonalds' is fine for the Billions Served(tm). Re-stating that > there are a bunch of PCs, and a bunch of tortured engineers sweating > blood to work around the mistakes in the architecture, doesn't > rebut my criticism of the PC platform at all. > > > PCs are crap doesn't mean much... actually anything. > > Okay, how about "PC's were designed by assholes and marketing dinks > who couldn't be bothered to even consider the impact of their > cost-cutting decisions on future users of their half-assed knock-off > of an Apple II." > > >>>You will make a fine mac advocate. You have the logic, How does it > >>>go? Uh, I built PC's back in 1984 and couldn't figure them out so > >>>they must really suck in 97. You deserve a mac. > >.. > >>Umm, I believe he also wrote that he returned to PCs in the 90s > >>and found no improvements in architecture at all from 1984. > >.. > >He didn't look very hard. > > Oh, I looked hard all right. I looked at the damn things every > time a new fad came down the pike claiming to fix the brain damage > that IBM saddled you all with. Let's look at the scoreboard, shall > we? > > ISA bus: > > Memory usage, and interrupt numbers for each board are determined > by the board, not by the slot. Set the jumpers wrong, and two > boards try to respond to the same addresses. (contrast to the Apple > II bus, where the addresses available to a board are determined by > the number of the slot. It is not *physically* possible to have > address conflicts in the Apple II bus.) > > EISA Bus: > > Same brain damage as above, but the data path is expanded to 16 > bits. > > VLB: > > "The bus is fucked, so we'll just give you the direct access to > the CPU pins, pretty much." The problem with this approach is, > now you have to improvise a bus again, because there's no real bus > arbitration. (What address do I answer? I'll read my DIP switches!) > > Expanded Memory: > > Lotus, Intel and Microsoft, realizing that the 640K memory limit > was a Real Big Problem, decide to install a bank-switching scheme, > mapping some number of megs of real RAM into a window of a few K > of the physical memory map. > > Okay for data, as long as you didn't try to allocate any single > block bigger than the page size (64K), which neatly conicides with > the brain-damaged segmented memory architecture of Intel's excrebale > excuse for CPU, but it's a *real* bitch to try to run code out of > a bank-switched memory board. > > Overlay Linkers (e.g. P/Link): > > Your code doesn't fit in 640K? Okay, just figure out which parts > need to be in RAM at the same time, and when you call from an > overlay into another overlay, we'll just swap in the code you're > calling, and swap it back out when you return from the called > routine. > > This is the kind of head-standing you have to do, because you have > a 640K memory limit, because some ASSHOLE at IBM didn't think about > expansion at all, and provide a pointer in the low end of the RAM > to tell you where to look for the video buffer. No, he HARD WIRED > it in! > > I had intended to keep this discussion in the hardware realm, but > Linkers and loaders are *real* close to the metal. If I get into > discussing DOS and Windows, I'm going really start on a rant. > > I've got dozens of these, but this post is long enough.. > > -jcr And what about technologies that are somewhat recent? ISA, EISA, and VLB are older bus implementations (the latter two are hardly used anymore). I guess you would suggest that NuBus is the pinnacle of bus design. But wait, Apple is using PCI now. Hmm, does that mean Macs are crap? And why did Apple take so long to adopt it? I also find it interesting that Apple bought NeXTStep/OpenStep which runs on Intel hardware over the BeOS which runs on Mac hardware.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: jackson@usenix.org (Jackson Dodd) Subject: USENIX 1998 ANNUAL TECHNICAL CONFERENCE - Call for Papers Message-ID: <ECnJ7n.Aur@usenix.org> Keywords: USENIX, annual, technical, conference Organization: USENIX Association Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:57:23 GMT ANNOUNCEMENT & CALL FOR PARTICIPATION USENIX 1998 Annual Technical Conference June 15-19, 1998, New Orleans, Louisiana The 1998 USENIX Technical Conference Program Committee seeks original and innovative papers about the applications, architecture, implementation, and performance of modern computing systems. Papers that analyze problem areas and draw important conclusions from practical experience are especially welcome. Some particularly interesting application topics are: ActiveX, Inferno, Java, and other embeddable environments Distributed caching and replication Extensible operating systems Freely distributable software Internet telephony Interoperability of heterogeneous systems Nomadic and wireless computing Privacy and security Quality of service Ubiquitous computing and messaging A major focus of this conference is the challenge of technology: What is the effect of commodity hardware on how we build new systems and applications? What is the effect of next-generation hardware? We seek original work describing the effect of hardware technology on software. Examples of relevant hardware include but are not limited to: Cheap, fast personal computers Cheap, large DRAM and disks Flash memory Gigabit networks Wireless networks Cable modems WebTV Personal digital assistants Network computers The conference will also feature tutorials, invited talks, BOFs, and Vendor Exhibits. ============================================================= For more information about this event: * Visit the USENIX Web site: http://www.usenix.org/events/no98/index.html * Send email to the USENIX mailserver at info@usenix.org. Your message should contain the line: "send usenix98 conferences". * Or watch comp.org.usenix for full postings ======================================== Papers due: December 5, 1997 ======================================== The USENIX Association brings together the community of engineers, system administrators, scientists, and technicians working on the cutting edge of computing. Its technical conferences are the essential meeting grounds for the presentation and discussion of the most advanced information on new developments in all aspects of advanced computing systems.
From: jm@nospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ISP Connection drops after 6 minutes Date: 1 Jul 1997 21:17:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5pbs5i$km2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 With GateKeeper current beta, NS 3.2, ppp2.2.0.4.6, and ZyXEL elite 2864 with current firmware, ISP connection drops (unexpectedly) after about 6 minutes (sometimes get up to 12 mins). GateKeeper usually reconnects immediately. Tried upgrading to the ppp2.3beta3 (which works very well), changing modem init strings, but cannot eliminate the dropped connection. The connection drops every time. Tried working with the ISP, but they were unable to help. Thanks for any suggestions to eliminate this problem. -- Please respond as needed to: jpmeia@ix.netcom.com NeXTMail/MIME welcome
From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 03:12:50 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33b72397.16357420@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <33b5d567.20998564@news.sover.net> <maury-2906971013110001@198.133.37.103> On Sun, 29 Jun 1997 10:13:11 -0400, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: >In article <33b5d567.20998564@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance >Togar) wrote: > >> The same dude who did the Apple 25 pin serial, ah, da, I mean SCSI >> connector. > > It's a D-connector and only goes in one way. .. But happens to fit far more devices that it wasn't intended for rather then the other way around. .. >> You could read the manual (RTFM). > > Yes, thank you for your advice. .. Sorry about that. .. .. >> You probably should have noticed >> there are 100 of 1000s of people who don't have this problem. It could >> be you're doing something wrong. > > It is not. .. Then it must be working. .. ..
From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 03:33:06 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Larry Campbell wrote: > > > >Apple's quality is world renowned and they have garnered top awards > > >world-wide, among them the Malcolm Baldridge Award, J.D. Power, etc. > > .. > > One more time: > > Apple's assembly quality has ranged from not-so-hot to above average. > > One more time: > You are full of shit. > You obviously haven't the faintest idea about what constitutes quality. > Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. The 21" monitor our lab had (note past tense) didn't last 4 years before every freaking part died. Apple 1710AV monitors also some to mind as does the Performa 5215 my wife has that had a screwed up video cable that would suddenly go green. What about those RAM problems? So what about the awards? I believe Dell and Compaq have both received that same awards. You obviously haven't the faintest idea of what constitutes quality. John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Prolog for NeXTStation? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <ECMJpn.AAs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 05:10:35 GMT References: <5p60d9$30k$3@news2.nctu.edu.tw> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5p60d9$30k$3@news2.nctu.edu.tw>, Spencer Yu <u8222015@cc.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: >Hi I am looking for a Prolog interpreter for my NeXTStaion...where >can I find a free one? I would prefer one with GUI but anything will do >thanx! Have you tried compiling Stony Brook Prolog? I was going to do it a few years ago but never got around to it. SBP isn't exactly super-amazing and it doesn't have a GUI but it should be doable. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ISP Connection drops after 6 minutes Date: 2 Jul 1997 14:53:43 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5pdq1n$nrc@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5pbs5i$km2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> In article <5pbs5i$km2@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> jm@nospam.com writes: >With GateKeeper current beta, NS 3.2, ppp2.2.0.4.6, and ZyXEL elite >2864 with current firmware, ISP connection drops (unexpectedly) after >about 6 minutes (sometimes get up to 12 mins). GateKeeper usually >reconnects immediately. > >Tried upgrading to the ppp2.3beta3 (which works very well), changing >modem init strings, but cannot eliminate the dropped connection. The >connection drops every time. Tried working with the ISP, but they were >unable to help. > >Thanks for any suggestions to eliminate this problem. > Try disabling V.42bis (the default on most modern modems) and instead enable MNP5. The "\N5" AT command on my Supra. >-- >Please respond as needed to: > >jpmeia@ix.netcom.com >NeXTMail/MIME welcome -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: eggs@linda.teleport.com (~House of BeanWix~) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 2 Jul 1997 09:21:42 -0700 Organization: Teleport Internet Services Message-ID: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> Keywords: Photo-CD NeXTSTEP Does NeXTSTEP on black hardware support Photo-CD? If so, does it support Pro Photo-CD too? If the OS doesn't natively support it, are there tools that can read Photo-CD and export to TIFF? I have a Turbo Dimension Cube running NeXTSTEP 3.3, with a standard NeXT CD-Rom drive, and wish to digitally edit Photo-CD images using TIFFany II. If I need to upgrade/downgrade the OS, I will do it...! Scott Neal eggs@teleport.com
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:46:07 -0400 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Organization: Graver Chemical Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: > Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The > 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. > The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case > so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? Troll. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
From: robdoss@nvc.cc.ca.us (Robert C. Doss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Converitng Mach-O to S-Records Date: 2 Jul 1997 18:18:25 GMT Organization: Napa Valley College Message-ID: <5pe61h$1hq@wiley.napanet.net> I'm looking for a utility which would convert the Mach-O object files produced by /bin/as into Motorola S-Record format. I intend to program my embedded MC680xx processor on my NeXT using Motorola /bin/as but I need to have the object file be an S-Record so I can burn the ROMs on my embedded system. Let me make this clear: I do not intend to run the program under NEXTSTEP, instead I want to run it on an embedded system with software developed ubder NEXTSTEP. -- *---------------------------------------------------------------------* |Robert C. Doss Jr. |Internet:RobDoss@nvc.cc.ca.us|NeXT mail & MIME ok| |Napa Valley College|Fax: (707) 253-3063 |MIME mail preferred| *---------------------------------------------------------------------*
From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 14:02:03 -0500 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Message-ID: <geordie-ya02408000R0207971402030001@kyrie> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net>, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) wrote: :In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: : :> Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The :> 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. :> The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case :> so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. : :Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? : :Troll. : Actually if the cover is put on crooked this can happen on some macs. Of course putting the covar on straight will fix it. Hardly a worst design and assembly of a computer case. probably the mac has had memory installed in it by someone who could not close the case. -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * *********************************************************************
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From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 00:00:28 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:46:07 -0400, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) wrote: >In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: > >> Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The >> 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. >> The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case >> so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. > >Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? .. >Troll. .. Note, Joe doesn't understand what the guy said *and* (probably the ultimate sin) the guy isn't of the "party" line. So he's called a troll. Nice going Joe. .. ..
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 20:41:12 -0400 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Message-ID: <maury-0207972041120001@199.166.204.230> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> In article <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > Note, Joe doesn't understand what the guy said *and* (probably the > ultimate sin) the guy isn't of the "party" line. So he's called a > troll. Nice going Joe. Well I have to agree with Joe on this one. They've been making the same case for several years now, supporting several models, the 7100, 7200 and 7300. It simply does not have this problem, I've owned two machines based on it. Now if you were to allow a cable on the inside of the case to move into the wrong area so the case cannot be closed properly, sure. I don't fault the case for this though. In fact, it's the best case they've designed in years, since the Q700. Maury
From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 02:22:26 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33BB5332.13A4@bit.csc.lsu.edu> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe Ragosta wrote: > > In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: > > > Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The > > 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. > > The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case > > so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. > > Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? > No, actually I misspoke. The button was already continually pressed. Plugging in the cable made us realize that. > Troll. Nope. Fact. John
From: John Zachary <zachary@bit.csc.lsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 03:41:48 -0500 Organization: LSU Robotics Research Laboratory Message-ID: <33BB65CC.5729@bit.csc.lsu.edu> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> <maury-0207972041120001@199.166.204.230> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maury Markowitz wrote: > > In article <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance > Togar) wrote: > > > Note, Joe doesn't understand what the guy said *and* (probably the > > ultimate sin) the guy isn't of the "party" line. So he's called a > > troll. Nice going Joe. > > Well I have to agree with Joe on this one. They've been making the same > case for several years now, supporting several models, the 7100, 7200 and > 7300. It simply does not have this problem, I've owned two machines based > on it. > The 7100 has a design case different from the 7200 and 7300. In our case, it wasn't a case (no pun intended) of misalignment caused by blockage - it was that the hole just didn't line up. It was by a small amount (and nothing a file wouldn't take care of), but it was just enough. We didn't get too upset about it since we are somewhat computer-savvy, but Mom and Pop trying to get Junior's new Mac to work would probably have. > Now if you were to allow a cable on the inside of the case to move into > the wrong area so the case cannot be closed properly, sure. I don't fault > the case for this though. In fact, it's the best case they've designed in > years, since the Q700. > Oh man. The best case was the Quadra 900 IMHO. Followed by the SE/30 type cases. I wish I still had my Classic II. > Maury John
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 3 Jul 1997 08:26:10 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5pfnn2$9e6$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> eggs@linda.teleport.com (~House of BeanWix~) wrote: > Does NeXTSTEP on black hardware support Photo-CD? [...] Yes, you can read Photo-CDs and export the images to TIFF with the program /NextDeveloper/Demos/PhotoAlbum.app as long as your CD-ROM hardware correctly handles multi-session disks. I don't know whether the "Pro" format is supported too. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 10:31:47 -0400 Organization: SoftArc Inc. Message-ID: <maury-0307971031470001@199.166.204.230> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> <maury-0207972041120001@199.166.204.230> <33BB65CC.5729@bit.csc.lsu.edu> In article <33BB65CC.5729@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: > Oh man. The best case was the Quadra 900 IMHO. Followed by the SE/30 > type cases. I wish I still had my Classic II. Sorry, but I have to disagree here. The 900 was pretty good, admitedly, but for easy of access the 700 had it beat. Press the tabs, lift off the case. Everything's right there in front of you, and nothing has to be removed to get at RAM, VRAM etc. The SE/30 required a screwdriver to get inside, it may have looked nice, but that's about it. The 7200/7300 series (what was different on the 7100? was it the older 650 case?) are close seconds to the 700. Press two tabs and the case slides off. Swing the left and right portions out of the way, and everything is exposed again. Clean, simple and accessable. Maury
From: Tony Lovell Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: 3 Jul 1997 15:14:35 GMT Organization: Wildfire Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5pgfkr$11f@gnus.wildfire.com> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <datamagik-2506971837470001@tcnet01-41.austin.texas.net> <33B263FE.165F@interweb.be> Cc: martin.laurent@interweb.be In <33B263FE.165F@interweb.be> Martin Laurent wrote: > I tried to install it on VirtualPC (1.0b6) on my PowerBook 5300ce but it > didn't work (It display Power Management is Enabled and then nothing). > It seems to work on some Mac and not on other. Perhaps I must try with > the final version of VPC. A common misconception, Martin. A properly installed Virtual PC DOESN'T work. That's why it is a Virtual PC. :) tone
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Message-ID: <ECqotp.IHx@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:51:25 GMT In article <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> eggs@linda.teleport.com (~House of BeanWix~) writes: > > Does NeXTSTEP on black hardware support Photo-CD? > If so, does it support Pro Photo-CD too? > > If the OS doesn't natively support it, are there tools > that can read Photo-CD and export to TIFF? > > I have a Turbo Dimension Cube running NeXTSTEP 3.3, with > a standard NeXT CD-Rom drive, and wish to digitally edit Photo-CD > images using TIFFany II. If I need to upgrade/downgrade the OS, > I will do it...! > Back in '93 NeXT made a PhotoAlbum.app that was distributed in the demo folder with the NS 3.1 User version, and it was still there in OS 4.0 User. Unfortunately, the CDROM driver in NEXTSTEP only supported single session disks. So if you got a PhotoCD written in one single session it worked fine. Otherwise you could only accesss the first session unless you had one of the rare CDROM drives that mapped multisession into multiple single session disks. I once saw PhotoAlbum at work with the Kodak demo CD on a ND Cube. Besides from taking some time to load, even the highest resolution pictures went just fine. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Attila <sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: CU-SeeMe Freeware-Reflector Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:44:15 +0200 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <33BBE4E1.7F571CE0@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, the CU-SeeMe reflector was precompiled only for the black hardware. However there is still the source for an older version of the freeware version out there. Did anybody try to compile this as a fat binary successfully? I could not so far but I would like to try out the reflector on an Intel OpenStep 4.2. Any help on this would be appreciated - either in the way that I can get it compiled or that somebody contributes. :) The other thing I am looking for are the several MBONE (MulticastBackBone) Tools like sd, vat and nv for Openstep on Intel. Somebody got those compiled for the black hardware again - but I couldn't find those for OS 4.2 on Intel. Hints? sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de PS: One place where you can find the source of the CU-SeeMe reflector is: ftp://ftp.nasda.go.jp/pub/OS/mac/CU-SeeMe/Reflector/
From: Attila <sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: CU-SeeMe Freeware-Reflector Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 19:43:24 +0200 Organization: Freie Universitaet Berlin Message-ID: <33BBE4AD.6189FB13@chemie.fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: comp.sys.next.software@chemie.fu-berlin.de Hi, the CU-SeeMe reflector was precompiled only for the black hardware. However there is still the source for an older version of the freeware version out there. Did anybody try to compile this as a fat binary successfully? I could not so far but I would like to try out the reflector on an Intel OpenStep 4.2. Any help on this would be appreciated - either in the way that I can get it compiled or that somebody contributes. :) The other thing I am looking for are the several MBONE (MulticastBackBone) Tools like sd, vat and nv for Openstep on Intel. Somebody got those compiled for the black hardware again - but I couldn't find those for OS 4.2 on Intel. Hints? sunny@chemie.fu-berlin.de PS: One place where you can find the source of the CU-SeeMe reflector is: ftp://ftp.nasda.go.jp/pub/OS/mac/CU-SeeMe/Reflector/
From: jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu (John Ray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [HELP] Error: Can't create Master NetInfo Server Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 11:41:02 -0600 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <jray-0307971141020001@128.146.141.134> Hello, I've been running a NS/OS web server for about 2 years, and recently had to switch the IP number on the machine. At the same time as switching the IP, I shut the machine off as the NetInfo server, as the 2 other OS boxes we're using have become standalone. Now, I'd like to switch the machine back so it is a netinfo server, and I keep getting this message (I'm trying to do this w/ Simple Network Starter) Error: Can't Create Master NetInfo Server: (Duplicate domain tag: can't save it) I'm at a bit of a loss... can anyone help? Email appreciated, Thanks, John
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 2 Jul 1997 20:07:39 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5peceb$r5h$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> try first! it works out of the box!=) Godwin ~House of BeanWix~ (eggs@linda.teleport.com) wrote: : Does NeXTSTEP on black hardware support Photo-CD? : If so, does it support Pro Photo-CD too? : If the OS doesn't natively support it, are there tools : that can read Photo-CD and export to TIFF? : I have a Turbo Dimension Cube running NeXTSTEP 3.3, with : a standard NeXT CD-Rom drive, and wish to digitally edit Photo-CD : images using TIFFany II. If I need to upgrade/downgrade the OS, : I will do it...! : Scott Neal : eggs@teleport.com
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <33b47b5d.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 28 Jun 1997 03:42:25 GMT Control: cancel <33b47b5d.0@news1.ibm.net> Message-ID: <cancel.33b47b5d.0@news1.ibm.net> Sender: Litagent345@aol.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [HELP] Error: Can't create Master NetInfo Server Date: 3 Jul 1997 19:07:12 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5pgt90$399$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <jray-0307971141020001@128.146.141.134> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 In <jray-0307971141020001@128.146.141.134> John Ray wrote: > I've been running a NS/OS web server for about 2 years, and recently had to > switch the IP number on the machine. At the same time as switching the IP, > I shut the machine off as the NetInfo server, as the 2 other OS boxes we're > using have become standalone. Now, I'd like to switch the machine back so > it is a netinfo server, and I keep getting this message (I'm trying to do > this w/ Simple Network Starter) Simple Network Starter does what it says --- starts up simple networks. Once you've done that you should switch to the more general tools like NetInfoManager.app Fear not --- it's easy really. Netinfo takes a bit of effort to get your head round, but once you do get it, you'll rapidly come to the conclusion that it's the best network management tool since sliced bread. > Error: Can't Create Master NetInfo Server: (Duplicate domain tag: can't > save it) Right. The 'tag' for a netinfo domain is simply the name of the directory where the data is stored on disk: a domain with the tag 'foo' will be stored in the /etc/netinfo/foo.nidb directory. Common tags are 'local' --- the default domain that all machines have, 'network' for the next level up and 'world' or 'super' for the top level in a three level heirarchy. Most installations can get by with a two or three level structure, but you can have as many as you want. Oh, yeah. Domain tags are quite arbitrary: your network domain could be tagged 'network' on the master server, whilst the copy on the clone server can be tagged 'strawberryjam'. > I'm at a bit of a loss... can anyone help? Sure can. The fact that SNS is complaining about duplicate tags suggests that you already have a network.nidb on your machine. You may not be *binding* to the domain, so you don't see any of the contents when doing lookups, but it's there alright. You can list the netinfo databases served by a machine by running 'nidomain -l' in a teminal shell. You can look at the contents of your network domain by using NetInfoManager.app and doing 'Domain:Open By Tag...' To reactivate the old network domain, all you need to do is tell your machines to bind to it. You do that by using NetInfoManager.app to open the /machines/broadcast host directory in the local domain of each machine and adding the key 'serves' with the value '../network'. Then either reboot the machines (netinfo master first) or restart the netinfo servers on the machines by doing 'kill -HUP `cat /etc/nibindd.pid`' in a terminal shell on each machine, again doing the netinfo master first. You'll have to be root to do that though. To get the old network domain out of the way while you create a new one, you can simply rename the .nidb directory and then restart netinfo using the 'kill -HUP `cat /etc/nibindd.pid`' command. Or you can delete the domain for good and all using the command 'nidomain -d network' Once you've got a master netinfo server up and running, I strongly recommend you to make one of the other machines a clone server which you can do via NetInfoManager.app's Domain:Servers... menu. Otherwise, powering off your master server will leave your other machines completely stymied, and if you have a clone server you can transmogrify[*] it into a master server should your master have some sort of mishap. > Email appreciated, [Posted and mailed] Matthew [*] But that requires wizardry beyond the scope of this message... -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
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From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (younghoon KIL) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [info] NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A board written in Korean Date: 4 Jul 1997 10:50:54 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5pikie$knv$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/ http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/qa You can get all info written in Korean about NEXTSTEP. - NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody, Korean Languge Kit. - Graphics: solidThingking, TIFFany, Creat, SuperDraw, Virtuoso, OneVision...more - Internet: Omniweb, Gatekeeper, PPP 2.3, HNNews, RadicalNews...more - Business, Commuications, Tools, Network, Utilities, Music, Mathematics...etc. Also You can use more than 4,000 pages which written in Korean about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP. Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP INfo and Q&A board written in Korean)
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Date: 3 Jul 1997 15:27:31 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5pggd3$88s$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> <5pfnn2$9e6$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> The pro is supported it works with mine.. the difference ishigher resolution right? Marcel Bresink (bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de) wrote: : eggs@linda.teleport.com (~House of BeanWix~) wrote: : > Does NeXTSTEP on black hardware support Photo-CD? [...] : Yes, you can read Photo-CDs and export the images to TIFF with the program : /NextDeveloper/Demos/PhotoAlbum.app as long as your CD-ROM hardware correctly : handles multi-session disks. I don't know whether the "Pro" format is : supported too. : Marcel : --- : Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science : Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 : MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
Message-ID: <33BCE7B2.41C6@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 14:08:18 +0200 From: ldbuchho <ldbuchho@iris.rz.uni-konstanz.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: "Mathematica-Object" in MiscKit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Constance, Germany Hi, someone told me that there is an object that allows it to do mathematical calculation with Mathematica and then returns the result to the calling app. Does this object really exist. I have not found it yet. -- Lars Dierk Buchholz
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From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 18:28:36 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33bd3ebf.70771994@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <maury-2506972037000001@199.166.204.230> <33b2267e.22927874@news.bway.net> <stevehix-2606972221310001@ip34.safemail.com> On Thu, 26 Jun 1997 22:21:30 -0700, stevehix@DeleteToReplysafemail.com (Steve Hix) wrote: .. >In article <33b2267e.22927874@news.bway.net>, abuse@127.0.0.1 wrote: > >> >> and you know what? you can put you pants on backwards too... who invented >> >> those stupid things?!?! =) >> > >> > No actually, you can't, you'll notice it instantly. There is no such >> >thing on IDE, the connector is the same on the top and bottom so there's >> >no way to know if it's hooked up wrong. >> >> Notice that red line on the edge of the ribbon? That tells you where >> pin 1 is located. Look on the motherboard and see where it says 1 or >> has a small triangle. Match the red line with that. > >His particular cable apparently didn't have the red line. > >*Bad* design, depending on a color marker. .. This "bad" design is universal in electronics. For example, resistors and many other components are color coded. You may prefer printed values but it's not going to happen. If you're going to play with electronics, you need to learn the rules. In the case of IDE cables, the newer ones are keyed and will fit only one way. BTW, it's easy to make IDE cables that have no marker *if* you buy other than 40 conductor cable and make your own. I've never seen a commercial cable that wasn't marked although it may be a dotted stripe that's hard to see. .. ..
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 17:16:42 -0400 Organization: Atria Software Message-ID: <maury-0407971716420001@198.133.37.101> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <maury-2506972037000001@199.166.204.230> <33b2267e.22927874@news.bway.net> <stevehix-2606972221310001@ip34.safemail.com> <33bd3ebf.70771994@news.sover.net> In article <33bd3ebf.70771994@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > This "bad" design is universal in electronics. For example, resistors > and many other components are color coded. yeah, but they actually have the colours on it. > values but it's not going to happen. If you're going to play with > electronics, you need to learn the rules. In the case of IDE cables, > the newer ones are keyed and will fit only one way. The cables were keyed, the drives were not! Maury
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From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 03:30:24 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33bdbe93.103495478@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <maury-2506972037000001@199.166.204.230> <33b2267e.22927874@news.bway.net> <stevehix-2606972221310001@ip34.safemail.com> <33bd3ebf.70771994@news.sover.net> <maury-0407971716420001@198.133.37.101> On Fri, 04 Jul 1997 17:16:42 -0400, maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: .. <SNIP> .. > The cables were keyed, the drives were not! .. You got me there. I've never seen a non-keyed drive. Who made it? The only drive gotcha I'm aware of is a few old SCSI tape drives that have signal pin 2 located away from the power plug but even those are keyed. .. ..
From: smyth@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Smyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware Date: 5 Jul 1997 03:52:43 GMT Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill Sender: NBS Message-ID: <5pkgeb$9f8$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> Keywords: Command key, grayscale, drivers, OPENSTEP I am a long-time user of NeXTSTEP on black hardware and am looking to build an "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" system. I don't visit comp.sys.next.misc on a regular basis, so please be patient if the following questions are well known to the group. 1) On black hardware, my left pinky is glued to the "Command" key (Command Cut, Command Copy, Command Paste, etc.) What does one do for a Command key on PC keyboards? I assume there must be some sort of keyboard re-mapping feature, which would, say, re-map the "Windows 95" key to function as a Command key. I would like to find a keyboard with such an extra key immediately beneath the "Z" key, so that the left pinky need move only up and down when it travels from Z to Command and back. Owing to carpal tunnel syndrome, or repetitive motion disorder, or whatever you want to call it, I find that the slightest left-right motion of the pinky becomes excruciatingly painful over time; for this reason, I find the "Ctrl" key on most PC keyboards to be unusable. If you know of a keyboard that solves the problem of the Command key, please post the manufacturer name, the model number, and a distribution source. 2) I much prefer grayscale monitors to color monitors, and I found the old 4-bit PostScript grayscale particularly charming. I know of four name-brand grayscale monitors: A) the Cornerstone DualPage 20-92 and 21-92 16-bit grayscale monitors, powered by the Cornerstone ImageAccel 2040/76 grayscale video card (www.corimage.com) B) the Artist Graphics NetVision 2016GS 16-bit grayscale monitor, powered by the Artist Graphics NetVision 2000i or 2500i video cards (www.artgraphics.com) C) the Eizo-Nanao FlexScan 6600 20-bit grayscale monitor (www.eizo.com) The Cornerstone and Artist Graphics cards come with drivers for 3.1/95/NT and OS/2, but no other operating systems. I am told that the Cornerstone monitors use a proprietary cable and that they must be driven by the Cornerstone card. The Artist Graphics monitor has a standard VGA cable and might be able to be driven by a standard VGA card, while the Eizo-Nanao monitor was designed to be driven by any VGA card running any driver. Unfortunately, the Eizo-Nanao monitor I saw did not produce what I would call a grayscale image; it was more of a creamy brown, although it was being powered by a color driver at the time, which might have made a difference. Does anyone have experience with grayscale monitors and "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware"? Does NeXT provide some sort of universal 16-bit grayscale driver that will power all cards? Are there other grayscale monitors that I should consider? Any advice would be most appreciated. 3) The drivers problem, continued: The drivers on the NeXT hardware compatibility list seem to apply to devices that are about 12 to 18 months out of date. Among SCSI controllers, Net Express (www.tdl.com/~netex) recommends the BusLogic 958-C, about which the NeXT hardware compatibility list says "BusLogic 958 PCI Wide SCSI Host Adapter (not tested, reported to work)." Does this mean that BusLogic wrote a driver for this card but that NeXT hasn't tested the driver, or does it mean that a NeXT driver for some older BusLogic product ought to power this more recent BusLogic product? If the latter, how often does this principle apply? For instance: A) Will the NeXT drivers for the Adaptec 2940UW power the Adaptec 3940UW? B) Will the NeXT drivers for the Matrox Millenium power the Matrox Millenium II? C) Will the NeXT drivers for the Sound Blaster 32-bit series power the Sound Blaster 64-bit series? As for communications, what does one do for voice/fax modem cards and their drivers? How does one set up an answering machine/fax modem combination? Is this supported out of the box, or am I expected to write the code? How does "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" behave with the US Robotics x2 56kbps products? Finally, the hardware compatibility list doesn't seem to have a driver for NE2000-compatible ethernet cards. What gives? 4) After one has spent a little time confronting the drivers problem, an inescapable conclusion is reached: Within a few years, there will be only one operating system. The Wall Street Journal had an article the other day (WSJ, 7-1-97, p. B6) which indicated that Apple's worldwide market share fell to 3% in the first quarter. Frankly, I am afraid that we are witnessing the end of the whole NeXT experiment, but maybe there is some hope to be offered by OPENSTEP. I have never seen this product, so perhaps the group could answer a few questions. Does OPENSTEP for NT take control from the Win95/Explorer interface so as to give the look and feel of NeXTSTEP? The parts of NeXTSTEP I use the most are Edit, WriteNow, Digital Librarian, Digital Webster, the Workspace File Viewer, the TeX support, the Stuart shell, and of course the development tools. I guess the Stuart shell is probably a little too dependent on the operating system to make sense in other environments, although it would be appreciated. How much of the other stuff persists? Does OPENSTEP provide a Window Server? Do NT OPENSTEP objects (windows, buttons, scroll bars, icons, etc.) look like Microsoft objects, or do they look like NeXT objects? I have heard that OPENSTEP for Solaris is pretty nice. Again: Does it take control of the user interface? If so, is there an OPENSTEP for Solaris on Intel Hardware? How about support for the new Solaris, version 2.6? (Of course, OPENSTEP for Solaris will not be much of an alternative if the future offers only the one operating system...) Thank you all for any advice or suggestions you can offer.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware Date: 5 Jul 1997 07:47:18 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5pku66$m6a$3@news2.digex.net> References: <5pkgeb$9f8$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> smyth@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Smyth) wrote: > 1) On black hardware, my left pinky is glued to the "Command" > key (Command Cut, Command Copy, Command Paste, etc.) What > does one do for a Command key on PC keyboards? I assume > there must be some sort of keyboard re-mapping feature, > which would, say, re-map the "Windows 95" key to function > as a Command key. I would like to find a keyboard with such > an extra key immediately beneath the "Z" key, so that the > left pinky need move only up and down when it travels from > Z to Command and back. Owing to carpal tunnel syndrome, or > repetitive motion disorder, or whatever you want to call > it, I find that the slightest left-right motion of the pinky > becomes excruciatingly painful over time; for this reason, > I find the "Ctrl" key on most PC keyboards to be unusable. > If you know of a keyboard that solves the problem of the > Command key, please post the manufacturer name, the model > number, and a distribution source. You can remap. The Keyboard.app let's you do this...and I've used ms keyboards and made the ms keys cmnd, the menu key help, etc... As for Ctrl...I make the key kaps that key...YMMV. > 2) I much prefer grayscale monitors to color monitors, and > I found the old 4-bit PostScript grayscale particularly > charming. I know of four name-brand grayscale monitors: As far as I can guess, your best bet is to get say a 2meg video card supported by nextstep that can drive a monochrome monitor. NeXT only supports 8bit greyscale (but it really looks great). So you'll just end up using a color video card (in monochrome mode) to drive a monochrome monitor...It should work, though I personally haven't tried it. > 3) The drivers problem, continued: The drivers on the NeXT > hardware compatibility list seem to apply to devices that > are about > A) Will the NeXT drivers for the Adaptec 2940UW power > the Adaptec 3940UW? B) Will the NeXT drivers for the > Matrox Millenium power the Matrox Millenium II? C) Will > the NeXT drivers for the Sound Blaster 32-bit series > power the Sound Blaster 64-bit series? I highly recommend going with a DPT 2024UW. It's much better than the others you list and goes for about the same as the Adaptec 2940UW. They have higher performance cards too...but the 2024 is more than fine for most needs and is upgradable too. The nice thing about the DPT card and next drivers...one driver powers their entire family of cards... I don't know the answers to B&C above.. > As for communications, what does one do for voice/fax modem cards > and their drivers? How does one set up an answering machine/fax Same as on black hardware, get NXFax. > modem combination? Is this supported out of the box, or am I > expected to write the code? How does "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel > hardware" behave with the US Robotics x2 56kbps products? Finally, > the hardware compatibility list doesn't seem to have a driver > for NE2000-compatible ethernet cards. What gives? I personally recommend getting an external modem with upgradable bios. The SupraFax is supported well (i.e. works with NXFax), is upgradable, and cheap... > 4) After one has spent a little time confronting the drivers > problem, an inescapable conclusion is reached: Within a > few years, there will be only one operating system. The > Wall Street Journal had an article the other day (WSJ, > 7-1-97, p. B6) which indicated that Apple's worldwide market > share fell to 3% in the first quarter. Frankly, I am afraid > that we are witnessing the end of the whole NeXT experiment, > but maybe there is some hope to be offered by OPENSTEP. I > have never seen this product, so perhaps the group could > answer a few questions. Does OPENSTEP for NT take control > from the Win95/Explorer interface so as to give the look > and feel of NeXTSTEP? The parts of NeXTSTEP I use the most Nope, the NT version looks and acts just like NT. The NT interface is used throughout. However, the very same apps run under the MACH operating system look like traditional NeXT apps. > Thank you all for any advice or suggestions you can offer. Good luck :) BTW, this thread should be moved to comp.sys.next.hardware... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 10:39:03 -0400 Organization: Atria Software Message-ID: <maury-0507971039040001@198.133.37.103> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <maury-2506972037000001@199.166.204.230> <33b2267e.22927874@news.bway.net> <stevehix-2606972221310001@ip34.safemail.com> <33bd3ebf.70771994@news.sover.net> <maury-0407971716420001@198.133.37.101> <33bdbe93.103495478@news.sover.net> In article <33bdbe93.103495478@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > You got me there. I've never seen a non-keyed drive. Who made it? One is from Western Digital, the other NEC. Maury
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTanswers locally Date: 5 Jul 1997 18:37:46 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> Is there a way to DL the complete NeXTanswers in one fell swoop? I remember they used to update it from time to time into a .tar file...though I can't seem to find such a thing now. I'm trying to DL their HTMLD files now...but the problem with them is when you double click them open, all the references are absolute to www.next.com instead of being relative and to my local hard drive... I'd love to have a local version of the html files, but will be just as happ with an upto date rtf version that I can shanghi with one dragNdrop from Netsurfer's ftp panel... Anyone know if such a thing still exists...and if not, why not? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTanswers locally Date: 5 Jul 1997 21:41:10 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5pmf1m$8a1$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > Is there a way to DL the complete NeXTanswers in one fell swoop? > I remember they used to update it from time to time into a .tar > file...though I can't seem to find such a thing now. I'm trying > to DL their HTMLD files now...but the problem with them is when > you double click them open, all the references are absolute to > www.next.com instead of being relative and to my local hard > drive... I'd love to have a local version of the html files, but > will be just as happ with an upto date rtf version that I can > shanghi with one dragNdrop from Netsurfer's ftp panel... > Anyone know if such a thing still exists...and if not, why not? What els is interesting is...that DigitalLibrarian doesn't seem to want to index the HTML(D) files!?! That stinks...DL usually indexes anything...or so it seemed... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTanswers locally Date: 6 Jul 1997 02:48:15 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5pn11f$pk220@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> In article <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net>, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >Is there a way to DL the complete NeXTanswers in one fell swoop? ftp ftp.next.com bin cd pub/NeXTanswers get Files.tar.Z Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: wanna@seethefight.com Subject: YOU ASKED FOR THIS! Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Headlines About Spam War! Message-ID: <33bf0e1f.0@news1.ibm.net> Date: 6 Jul 97 03:16:47 GMT Pissed of Private Investigator, tells "the rest of the story." What Mark Fraunfelder with Wired forgot to tell... http:/michaelenlow.by.net/spamwar.htm
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTanswers locally Date: 6 Jul 1997 02:38:13 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5pn0el$pst$1@bashir.peak.org> References: <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > Is there a way to DL the complete NeXTanswers in one fell swoop? > I remember they used to update it from time to time into a .tar > file...though I can't seem to find such a thing now. It used to be ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NA.compressed but it doesn't exist ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/README says: NB: 95-11-10 NA.compressed removed; there's a problem with the system that builds it. For now, do: ftp ftp.next.com bin cd pub/NeXTanswers get Files.tar.Z I'm downloading it to PEAK right now. Oops, actually, it's done: Files.tar.gz: Files.tar.gz: 42080673 bytes received in 881.21 seconds, 46.63 kB/s. that's 40 megs for those of you who are not so good at undelimited numbers (like me :-) Also you can get them from the Peanuts, Nebula, and Big Green CD-ROM collections. You can get it from PEAK at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/documents/next/NeXTanswers.tar.gz but I wouldn't try it over a 14.4 modem :-) TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: Modem and Printer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <ECx9z0.JIy@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Cc: wtg@uwyo.edu Organization: none References: <33AECA4C.A2D6CC0F@uwyo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:13:47 GMT In <33AECA4C.A2D6CC0F@uwyo.edu> "W.T. Grandy, Jr." wrote: > Two problems I can't seem to solve for my OpenStep 4.1 platform. > I'm running Intel, Pentium Pro 200, 64 MB, and 4.3 GB hard drive > partitioned for Win95 and OpenStep. > > 1. The less serious of the two is that OS doesn't seem to register the > printer and allow its use if it's turned on after booting. If turned on > > before boot, no problem, Is this the normal behavior? It wasn't > so in NS 3.2. As a workaround for this problem a possibility to add the printer when the system is running: As root type '/usr/etc/driverLoader i d=ParallelPort' and answer all questions with yes. Hope this helps Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de (Olaf Foellinger) Subject: Re: Booting NeXTSTEP v3.3 (Intel) with OS/2's Bootmanager? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <ECx9Go.JHL@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de> Sender: news@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Cc: joacim@mbox301.swipnet.se Organization: none References: <01b991e6$d6613640$13b8f482@nostromo.melin.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 00:02:48 GMT In <01b991e6$d6613640$13b8f482@nostromo.melin.se> "Joacim Melin" wrote: > Hi all . > > I'm trying to install NeXTstep v3.3 on an Pentium 133Mhz. I can't install > it on the first harddrive so I got me a second SCSI hdd and want to install > it there. NeXTstep doesn't seem to have the ability to boot from a second > harddrive, so I thought I could use OS/2's bootmanager, but that didn't > work either. > > Any hints on this issue ? Please reply via email. > > Thanks, > > Joacim Melin, Stockholm Sweden. I do have the same configuration. You do need a small primary partiton (~7 MB) on the first disk to boot from. The details can be found in NA 1487. Hope this helps Olaf -- Olaf Foellinger homepage: http://www1.stuttgart.netsurf.de/~ergo/ NeXTMail & MIME welcome!
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From: hugo burm <hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Prelude and EOF Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 10:19:43 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <33C0A69F.2A9D@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have installed my Prelude to Rhapsody (Intel/Mach) and WebObjects. The WebObjects package needs EOF. I cannot find EOF on the CD ROM's. Where can I find it? Or does the WebObjects package works on Intel/NT only? hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
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Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 20:31:28 -0400 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0507972031280001@news.dol.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In article <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:46:07 -0400, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) > wrote: > > >In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: > > > >> Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The > >> 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. > >> The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case > >> so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. > > > >Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? > .. > >Troll. > .. > Note, Joe doesn't understand what the guy said *and* (probably the > ultimate sin) the guy isn't of the "party" line. So he's called a > troll. Nice going Joe. Nice try Lance. But the entire post is above. The guy says "so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed". I didn't misquote him in any way. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta joe.ragosta@dol.net Visit the Complete Macintosh Web Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
From: 1kyriaki@swt16.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: 7 Jul 1997 13:23:26 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Since I'am searching a good well behaving faxmodem for my slab, I'am interrested to hear from the NeXT community which Faxmodems work without problems together with NXFax under NS 3.3. Tell me your experiences and will try to build a summary! -- Valentino Kyriakides Email: 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de
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From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Two problems with (black) monitor Date: 07 Jul 1997 14:25:37 GMT Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Distribution: world Message-ID: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> hi! I have a black NeXtStation... I'm running into a couple of problems with the monitor: - The monitor screen area seems to have shrunk over time (i.e., same pixel resolution, but the actual dimensions in inches seems to have shrunk over time)... - A few times (e.g., 1/10) after power-on, the monitor won't come up (i.e., nothing shows on the monitor, not even the "Testing..." screen) at all.. If I wait a while and try power-cycling again a few times, it finally works... Any idea what might be going on in either of the two problems above? Is the monitor or the computer on its way to dying? Thanks for any help. Please reply to kochhar@avcinc.com, if possible. -- ---------------------------- Sandeep Kochhar Tel: 617-876-2052, Fax: 617-238-0763 15-17 Lee St. #T2 Email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 http://www.avcinc.com/people/kochhar/
From: jon@cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 17:58:15 +0200 Organization: WITS U CS Dept Message-ID: <jon-0707971758150001@macenroe.cs.wits.ac.za> References: <5pkgeb$9f8$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu> In article <5pkgeb$9f8$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu>, smyth@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Smyth) wrote: > I am a long-time user of NeXTSTEP on black hardware and am > looking to build an "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" system. > I don't visit comp.sys.next.misc on a regular basis, so please > be patient if the following questions are well known to the group. > > > 1) On black hardware, my left pinky is glued to the "Command" > key (Command Cut, Command Copy, Command Paste, etc.) What does one > do for a Command key on PC keyboards? the alt key
From: TECS@SOFTWARE.NET Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SEEKING SOFTWARE DESIGNERS Date: 7 Jul 1997 07:41:22 GMT Organization: SPUTUM.ORGANIZATION Message-ID: <5pq6j2$d962304@odin.telapex.com> Angered Spy/Research Expert and now, Leading Business Consultant, tells "the rest of the story." What the news & Wired forgot to tell... Just search the Web - we're now the largest chain of WEB SITES on the net for supporting entrepreneurs and businesses wishing to grow using his techniques. He gave them fair warning... But they didn't listen... CH http://michaelenlow.by.net/spamwar.html
From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware Date: 7 Jul 1997 16:35:29 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5pr5sh$3vk@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <jon-0707971758150001@macenroe.cs.wits.ac.za> John Ostrowick writes > In article <5pkgeb$9f8$1@fddinewz.oit.unc.edu>, smyth@gibbs.oit.unc.edu > (Richard Smyth) wrote: > > > I am a long-time user of NeXTSTEP on black hardware and am > > looking to build an "OPENSTEP for Mach on Intel hardware" system. > > I don't visit comp.sys.next.misc on a regular basis, so please > > be patient if the following questions are well known to the group. > > > > > > 1) On black hardware, my left pinky is glued to the "Command" > > key (Command Cut, Command Copy, Command Paste, etc.) What does one > > do for a Command key on PC keyboards? > > the alt key Related to this, I've found that changing the keyboard to NextUSA from just USA in the preferences panel (under the flags) makes the keyboard much like a black one. The "caps lock" key is changed to control and "alt-shift" operates the caps lock deal. There are other differences, but I can't remember them. On the whole, the switch was wonderful. :) -- Jon Haveman http://www.haveman.org/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@haveman.org Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: jon@cs.wits.ac.za (John Ostrowick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: two big problems Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 18:22:03 +0200 Organization: WITS U CS Dept Message-ID: <jon-0707971822030001@macenroe.cs.wits.ac.za> hi everyone i know unix fairly well but i'm forced to admit that i'm stuck on a few things with "prelude to rhapsody" (of course, the cd from apple) big problem number 1. having tried to set up ip addresses etc, i can now no longer log in. I didn't set up any NFS stuff, so it is still authenticating locally. All i set was the ip address, netmask, router. It seems to me as if there's no way to set the DNS name - am i right? I mean from the GUI. I've been using the gui because i think it ought to work 100% and i should, in theory, never have to hit the CLI. it seems to have set things up correctly inside /etc/hostconfig - but nonetheless a. I cannot login (or rather, i do, but it gets no further than dismissing the login window; i am forced to do a hard reboot), wait for fsck, wait for the second reboot (very irritating) b. i still cannot see the network when i reboot using config=Default (thank god for that!!) this is what it says if i boot in verbose mode or cat /usr/adm/messages: Jul 7 17:01:35 nextstep loginwindow[191]: bootstrap_register failed - -102 Jul 7 17:01:45 nextstep loginwindow[191]: Checking for DOS partitioned disk Jul 7 17:01:51 nextstep loginwindow[191]: bootstrap_register failed - -102 Jul 7 17:01:51 nextstep loginwindow[191]: bootstrap_register failed - -102 also: localhost loginwindow[174]: failed to login to account: root So i guess what i'm asking, is a. why does the networking still not work, despite it being happy with the ether card driver? b. why can i now only boot into the workspace manager thing using config=Default? if i boot with no options or -v, it gets no further than dismissing the login screen; the hard disk light turns off and indicates that there is no further disk activity. big problem number 2. despite the pc being happy that it is using a tseng labs 4000 graphics card /driver - it gets stuck in a loop in the boot sequence, fussing over and over again about the fact that the driver chosen is missing something. It looks like the driver is corrupt (i mean, why else should it only do 1024x768 in 2 colour mode? and get stuck when i try use that driver?). The only way out of this loop is also a hard reboot. and of course, the only way i can get past this now is to use the default driver. i could solve this (and have, on another box i tested this on) by changing graphics card, but i want to know why it is doing this, because a. most of our linux pc's have this card and are happy with it b. it's not that easy to get another card without buying it. c. i have to use the pc i've got. i tried looking for a driver on nextanswers but it seems to be the same version, so i presume it will have the same bug. I've seen it running colour and it's very very nice. I'm not going to be able to live with this b/w mode when i know how nice the colour mode is :-) when i click on the settings button in the config.app thing, to choose the colour depth and resolution, for the tseng labs driver, it shows nothing (same result under the default vga driver). Other drivers show nice lists of resolutions and colours; not so the tseng labs driver. :-( BTW - howcome NeXT has to reboot to change monitor settings? *Be* doesn't ;-) is this cos of the crummy pc hardware? I really need help here. Any nextperts around? TIA! :-)
From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 17:07:49 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33c12174.325416343@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <33b84c54.67892734@news.sover.net> <?digman?-0107970759230001@digital-02-144.hou.neoworld.net> <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0207970846070001@news.dol.net> <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R0507972031280001@news.dol.net> On Sat, 05 Jul 1997 20:31:28 -0400, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) wrote: .. >In article <33baeb28.239624201@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance >Togar) wrote: .. >> On Wed, 02 Jul 1997 08:46:07 -0400, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) >> wrote: .. >> >In article <33BA1242.7D5E@bit.csc.lsu.edu>, zachary@premier.net wrote: >> > >> >> Oh, please. Apple has made some good stuff and alot of crap. The >> >> 7300/132 we have is the worst design and assembly of a computer case. >> >> The power button didn't line up to the hole in the front of the case >> >> so when you plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed. .. >> >Hmmm. Plugging in a cable caused the button to be continually pressed? .. >> >Troll. .. >> Note, Joe doesn't understand what the guy said *and* (probably the >> ultimate sin) the guy isn't of the "party" line. So he's called a >> troll. Nice going Joe. > >Nice try Lance. But the entire post is above. The guy says "so when you >plugged a cable in the button was continually pressed". I didn't misquote >him in any way. .. Since the entire post is here, you'll notice that I didn't write anything about you misquoting anyone. Point? .. ..
From: kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Backup recommendations (NS3.3 and Win95 on Intel) Date: 07 Jul 1997 17:16:44 GMT Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University Distribution: world Message-ID: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7131644@endor.harvard.edu> hi! Anyone have any backup recommendations (e.g., what works, speed comparisons, etc.) for a backup solution for an Intel running both NeXtStep 3.3 and Windows 95 (I'd like to be able to use the same backup drive for backups from NS3.3 and from Win95, although the media (tapes/disks) etc. would be different...) Thanks. -- ---------------------------- Sandeep Kochhar Tel: 617-876-2052, Fax: 617-238-0763 15-17 Lee St. #T2 Email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu Cambridge, MA 02139 http://www.avcinc.com/people/kochhar/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: Mon, 7 Jul 1997 14:52:12 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970707145138.5011B-100000@peace> References: <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@swt16.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> In-Reply-To: <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> As far as I know, just the SupraFaxModems and ZyXel modems. I used a SupraFaxModem with much success. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Applet Runtime Error Message-ID: <33C15632.5242DA43@uwyo.edu> From: "W.T. Grandy, Jr." <wtg@uwyo.edu> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 14:48:50 -0600 Distribution: world Organization: University of Wyoming MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I posted this problem a week or so ago, but got no useful response. Thought I'd try again, since the problem remains. I have completed a web page with a newly written applet, all of which runs fine in the appletviewer and 3 different browsers on my machine. I've now uploaded to 2 different remote servers, and when accessed from my machine via modem everything still works fine. But, when the page is accessed by colleagues from three other machines elsewhere via either server, two running Netscape 4.01 and I.E. 3.0 on Win95, the other Netscape 4.0.1 on Linux, the applet fails to run. (All browsers are definitely Java enabled.) The message is that the class for the applet has caused a security violation with a "method verification error." The page was composed on Communicator 4.0. It seems remarkable that downloading the applet to my machine gives no problem, but does on others. I'm totally clueless on this, and would appreciate receiving any and all insights and/or suggestions. Thanks in advance, Tom Grandy -- W.T. Grandy, Jr. Physics & Astronomy University of Wyoming http://faraday.uwyo.edu/faculty/tgrandy/index.html
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From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: 7 Jul 1997 21:48:15 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc8b1f$5ecc0fd0$190b1acb@decisionware> References: <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Valentino Kyriakides <1kyriaki@swt16.informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote in article <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de>... > > Since I'am searching a good well behaving faxmodem for my slab, > I'am interrested to hear from the NeXT community which Faxmodems > work without problems together with NXFax under NS 3.3. > > > Tell me your experiences and will try to build a summary! > I use an Australian brand modem - Netcom M34F. In my discussions with Black and White software (makers of NXFax) the essential element for operation with NXFax is using the Rockwell chipset in the modem. As far as support of the Class 2 fax standard is concerned I have found that some modems (one of my earlier ones for instance) do not fully support the standard. NXFax is VERY reliant on a full implementation of the standard. So a manufacturer may state Class 2 support but until you check it with NXFax you will not know how welll they do it. Hope this helps, Greg Shaw.
From: sunhan@rome.uwindsor.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT help Date: 8 Jul 1997 00:15:35 GMT Organization: iSTAR Internet Incorporated Message-ID: <5ps0r7$kat$1@news.istar.ca> Hi there, I just recently bought a NeXT computer to help me learn UNIX and I'm having loads of trouble already. Firstly I have the computer installed with only part of the System 3.0 and I'm missing huge chunks of it. I need PPP, FTP and Uncompressing program. Anyone in Ontario or out there in the internet who can send me a disk with these programs on it? I will greatly appricate it and will re-emburse you for your trouble. Thanks for anyhelp you can give me Sunny
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTanswers locally Date: 7 Jul 1997 13:48:39 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5pqs3n$s2s@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5pm49q$clm$1@news2.digex.net> <5pn0el$pst$1@bashir.peak.org> luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so > please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 > semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits B'hatzlakha! If you can get any Hebrew fonts besides Shalom and Hehen working on your NeXT (or even Hehen working properly), or if you figure out how to enter Hebrew intelligently (right to left) in Edit or any NeXTstep app, or especially if you get Hebrew web pages working under OmniWeb, please let me know! _._ _ _ ___ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _._ ___ _ Joshua W Burton | |( ' ) |.| . | ( ' ) | | | | | | \ )( ( ) | | | (847)677-3902 | | )_/ | |___|_ )_/ /|_| | | __)/ \_)/ || | jburton@nwu.edu | .. . - `. : use a ZyXEL O288S, and am completely satisfied with it. Hope this info helps. --Chris -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD on black NeXTSTEP 3.3? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <ECx71M.Iq9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 1997 23:10:34 GMT References: <5pdv6m$ivp$1@linda.teleport.com> <ECqotp.IHx@nidat.sub.org> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <ECqotp.IHx@nidat.sub.org>, Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > >I once saw PhotoAlbum at work with the Kodak demo CD on a ND Cube. >Besides from taking some time to load, even the highest resolution >pictures went just fine. Yep--I played with this too, on an ND cube. The images looked wonderful (well, as good as they could be given the photographer ;-)). -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: penrose@w09.sfc.keio.ac.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NSThread severely degrades event queue access Date: 08 Jul 1997 11:32:11 +0900 Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Fujisawa Japan Message-ID: <wzk9j2e0k4.fsf@w09.sfc.keio.ac.jp> Howdy Folks: I am developing an application, under Openstep 4.1 for intel, which is multithreaded. In my application, I have a single solitary method that is run in a seperate thread. It is spawned with: [NSThread detachNewThreadSelector:@selector(mySelector:) toTarget:self withObject:sender]; In this method (as referenced by mySelector) there are no AppKit objects manipulated, nor are any messages passed to any AppKit objects. Elsewhere in the application, in a custom view, mouseDown: is overridden to implement the dragging of another view. When this view is dragged on the screen before the application becomes mult-threaded (while [NSThread isMultiThreaded] returns NO) the dragging is smooth and continuous. If I execute mySelector: in the same thread as the application, the dragging performance is also smooth. However, as soon as the application becomes multithreaded, e.g. [NSThread isMultiThreaded] returns YES), the dragging behavior degrades drastically: the view stutters when dragged. A huge (sometimes as humungous as 500ms) latency is introduced. This latency remains in the application ever after, even though the detached thread has exitted. Why is this happening? Are there any ways to alleviate this unacceptable latency? I am tempted to use cthread_fork() to see if I can fool the AppKit into better performance, but I'd prefer this application to be Openstep compliant. Thanks for any help! Christopher Penrose penrose@sfc.keio.ac.jp penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
From: pok@prometheus.digital-rain.com (pok) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.2 for Mach Experience Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 09:37:15 GMT Organization: Client of Internet Portal Services Message-ID: <5pt1od$2hb@thoth.portal.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Keyword: OpenStep, Intel, Asus, K6 Last week I ordered OpenStep 4.2 for Mach (Intel) Academic Bundle, which includes OpenStep developer. It arrived three days ago. Documentation was extraordinarily sparse, NeXTAnswers was almost useless, most information is outdated in some way or another. For a company which has focused so much of its attention on the web, the NeXT home page has surprisingly inadequate content. Let's put it this way, Linux has far more useful, relevant, friendly information than OpenStep/NeXTStep. And if that's true, that's a real disappointment that Tevanian and company are put to shame by a group of volunteers. Hopefully the Apple acquisition has really given these NeXT engineers some new life. Nevertheless, installation, compared to other non-mainstream Operating Systems was fairly painless. I remember making Linux go the first time, and it's considerably easier than that. And OS/2 2.x and Warp weren't without their problems. The soundcard worked right off the hop and most devices were detected immediately. It's by no means a consumer level operating system. This much seems clear -- in my mind, it's really like an easier to use, more elegant Unix. Updating to BSD 4.4, improved consumer level tools like automatic PPP support and improved device driver support are future musthaves. Of course, the nice, crisp display postscript is a joy to use. My system: AMD K6-166MMX CPU 64MB 10ns SDRAM ASUS TX97-E Motherboard Matrox Millenium 4MB Acer 685 8x CD-ROM (ATAPI) 3G and 1.2G EIDE drives Optiquest 775 17" Monitor I've had no problems with the AMD K6 CPU. It works and works solidly. Fast fast fast. Similarly, the new Intel TX chipset functions flawlessly. By the way, does anyone know of a good communications program for calling BBS's? Kermit is absolutely intolerable. -Wilson
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Moveing lotus improv files from black h/w to lotus wk# format. Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 08:42:14 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Message-ID: <33C243B6.230362C6@fuller.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello World! We have several NeXT machines with the black hardware. The users love these machines; the problem is these machines are wareing out. We have lots of lotus improv spread sheets on these NeXT machines. Is there a untility out there that will take these .imp files and convert them to the now common lotus .wk(1-4) format? Thank you for your time. -- H. Blakely Williford | Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator/Programmer | cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company | religious conviction. -- Pascal
From: 3gmp@qlink.queensu.ca (Glenn Parsons) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Two problems with (black) monitor Date: 8 Jul 1997 19:54:53 GMT Organization: Queen's University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5pu5ud$klb@knot.queensu.ca> References: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 In article <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu>, kochhar@endor.harvard.edu says... > > >hi! >I have a black NeXtStation... I'm running into a couple of problems >with the monitor: > >- The monitor screen area seems to have shrunk over time (i.e., same > pixel resolution, but the actual dimensions in inches seems to have > shrunk over time)... > >- A few times (e.g., 1/10) after power-on, the monitor won't come up > (i.e., nothing shows on the monitor, not even the "Testing..." > screen) at all.. If I wait a while and try power-cycling again a few >times, it finally works... > >Any idea what might be going on in either of the two problems above? >Is the monitor or the computer on its way to dying? > >Thanks for any help. Please reply to kochhar@avcinc.com, if >possible. > > >-- >---------------------------- >Sandeep Kochhar Tel: 617-876-2052, Fax: 617-238-0763 >15-17 Lee St. #T2 Email: kochhar@das.harvard.edu >Cambridge, MA 02139 http://www.avcinc.com/people/kochhar/ > In repairing many TV's and monitors, I have found such problems frequently caused by capacitors. If it works better when it warms up, it is usually a capacitor. Here are a couple of tests to confirm: 1) On a cold start (i.e. unused for hours), with back cover removed (Careful!!! High voltage!!!), heat up components on the board and then power up. If it works right away, pinpoint your heating. Defective capacitors are usually near IC's or transistors with heatsinks. The heat tires them out. 2) After the monitor has warmed up and is operating normally, use freeze spray on suspect components. Replace all capacitors with 105° C LXF or PR-M capacitors. Good luck and be careful of the voltages in the monitor!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- Glenn Parsons BSc CISC (Computing Science) Queen's University Kingston, On. Canada 3gmp@Qlink.QueensU.ca parsonsg@declab.queensu.ca (*Note: all mail forwarded to qlink) http://qlink.queensu.ca/~3gmp "We shall not have much reason to complain of the narrowness of our minds, if we will but employ them about what may be of use to us; for of that they are very capable." John Locke, 1690. -----------------------------------------------------------------
From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 23:57:38 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33c2d097.1851442@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <5pauro$mdb@idiom.com> On 1 Jul 1997 05:57:28 -0700, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: >?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) writes: > >> It's easy to find Intel PCs that are built better than anything Apple has >>to offer. > >You can make an Intel PC with a solid titanium case, and a >carved-moonrock faceplate, and it would still suffer from IBM's >original design fuck-ups, not to mention Intel's pathetic excuse >for a processor architecture. > >"Better Built", indeed. Indeed, there are some Intel based computers built much the way as you describe, less the moonrock faceplate. They're used in hostile enviornments where failure would be.... well, inconvenient to say the least. FYI, the Mac hardware design is much less than stellar. Simplistic & cheap to manufacture are it's high points. It would've been cloned in a day where it not for the copyrighted ROMS. You see, since Mac days began, Apple has been in the software business. Hardware was/is a once lucrative afterthought... and it shows. Should you doubt any of this, keep in mind that Apple has never manufactured *anything*. They are assemblers like Compaq, Dell, etc. .. ..
From: ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:32:42 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <33c2d468.2828657@news.sover.net> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5p245b$27r@winter.erols.com> <5p2u2k$pnm@idiom.com> <33b72c98.582555230@nntp.idir.net> <5p3d46$a2n@newsb.netnews.att.com> <33b5d7b5.21588883@news.sover.net> <5p5jca$mfb@idiom.com> <33b727fc.17481717@news.sover.net> <5p7rue$lff@idiom.com> On 30 Jun 1997 01:49:18 -0700, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: >ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) writes: .. >ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) writes: >>[munch] >>>cost-cutting decisions on future users of their half-assed knock-off >>>of an Apple II." .. >>Which is actually a half-assed knock-off of the S-100 design. Let's >>give credit where due. .. >No, the Apple II bus was an improvement over the Altair bus. (I >don't call it S-100, because I respect Ed Roberts' prerogative of >naming his own invention.) It was superior in that it can't have >address conflicts. Woz *looked* at the Altair bus, and *improved* >upon it. .. You can call it what you want. Most use the term S-100. "It was superior in that it can't have address conflicts." Really? You ought to double check this one 'cause you're wrong. The Woz saw and the Woz copied. Simple. Naturally, it wasn't an *exact* copy as the Woz's copy was for a 6502 and was designed to be inexpensive to manufacture. .. .. >He advanced the state of the art. IBM caused a regression. .. The Apple II was a step forward and the IBM PC was a step back? Pleeeze. .. .. >>It 's also not physically possible to do lots of things with the Apple >>II bus which explains why it's a half-assed knock-off. .. >I'm calling you on this one: What were you able to do with the >Altair bus that you couldn't do in the Apple II? .. The S-100 bus was buffered, supported DMA, multiple processors & memory expansion cards for starters. The Apple II wasn't in the same league but then it wasn't intended to be. .. .. >As for it being a knock-off of the Altair, I disagree. It's a bus >designed to serve as the backplane of a 6502-based machine, and it >did a fine job of that. .. It was designed to support the Apple II... very specifically. To say that it was designed to support a 6502 based machine implies that it was generic to that processor. It wasn't. Keep in mind that the Apple II booted Microsoft Basic. .. .. >[munch again] .. >>Look, I agree that the PC bus and architecture are far from perfect >>but they are workable. And with less pain than you experience. .. >I don't experience any pain from this, because I don't use the damn >things. They have been examined and found inadequate for my >purposes. .. Well, that's why there are choices. Most choose to successfully use the Intel platform for an amazing variety of purposes. .. .. >Horse-drawn carriages are workable. If you're satisfied with the >sad state of Intel hardware today, then you can save a lot of money, >by trading it off for your time. My time's worth more than that. .. Bad analogy and I didn't write that I was satisfied with the current state of Intel hardware. What I *did* write was that it was useable. You have no idea what my time's worth and I not of yours. .. .. >>We could also discuss the fact that it's obvious that analog people >>weren't involved PC design. > >Funny you should bring that up: The four machines that failed, in >my first order of five IBM PC's all had power supply problems. .. I assume you agree. .. .. >>But, hey, the world isn't perfect and that's that. > >No, the world sure isn't perfect, and that's why I choose the best >of my available alternatives. Intel boxes ain't it! .. You forgot preface this with IMHO. .. ..
From: architectura@mindspring.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: networking problems: Mac<->SGI<->NeXT 68k Date: 9 Jul 1997 02:21:35 GMT Organization: Architectura Message-ID: <architectura-0807972122250001@user-2k7i3bn.dialup.mindspring.com> We recently obtained a Color Turbo NextStation from Deepspace and hope to use it as a file and mail server and PostScript editor. I found a section (Chapter 11 of the System Administrator's Manual: Mixed Networks) in the on-line documentation (NS 3.3 was pre-installed and appears to be slightly incomplete) which explains that AppleTalk connectivity is a simple matter of activating a single check box beneath an apple icon in the preferences app. Problem #1: there is no apple icon in my preferences app. Does this mean that something was not installed, or merely that I've not set the computer up correctly? Connecting NeXT black hardware to UNIX machines should, according to the documentation, be similarly straightforward. Neither the NeXT nor the SGI will acknowledge the physical existence of a 10BaseT network connection. Problem #2: The machines are all physically connected through a DaynaStar 10BaseT hub, but the Macs are the only ones talking. I would appreciate any suggestions!
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From: "Frank Alviani" <alviani@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Support for old HP printer? Date: 8 Jul 97 22:34:05 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <AFE870E7-752E@207.220.146.84> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I have an old HP DeskWriter (Mac) that I no longer use. I have also just set up an Intel system with OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody CDs), and was wondering if there was any way to use the HP with it? Thanks in advance for any assistance, Frank Alviani
From: jpolaski@NOwwa.com (Jim Polaski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I give up, Prelude is in the trash Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 00:01:27 -0600 Organization: Polaski P/D/C Message-ID: <jpolaski-ya02408000R0907970001270001@news.wwa.com> References: <maury-2506971723440001@199.166.204.230> <5os3b2$4l@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5os5pe$fom$1@news.xmission.com> <5os9ra$ebu@winter.erols.com> <5ota5r$nqr@idiom.com> <maury-2606971524200001@199.166.204.230> <5ouhd9$pc5@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <datamagik-2606971929520001@tcnet01-43.austin.texas.net> <33b71cdd.14635064@news.sover.net> <?digman?-3006971343520001@digital-00-31.hou.neoworld.net> <5pauro$mdb@idiom.com> <33c2d097.1851442@news.sover.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <33c2d097.1851442@news.sover.net>, ltogar@msn.com (Lance Togar) wrote: > On 1 Jul 1997 05:57:28 -0700, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > > >?digman?@neosoft.com (Larry Campbell) writes: > > > >> It's easy to find Intel PCs that are built better than anything Apple has > >>to offer. > > > >You can make an Intel PC with a solid titanium case, and a > >carved-moonrock faceplate, and it would still suffer from IBM's > >original design fuck-ups, not to mention Intel's pathetic excuse > >for a processor architecture. > > > >"Better Built", indeed. > > Indeed, there are some Intel based computers built much the way as you > describe, less the moonrock faceplate. They're used in hostile > enviornments where failure would be.... well, inconvenient to say the > least. FYI, the Mac hardware design is much less than stellar. > Simplistic & cheap to manufacture are it's high points. It would've > been cloned in a day where it not for the copyrighted ROMS. You see, > since Mac days began, Apple has been in the software business. > Hardware was/is a once lucrative afterthought... and it shows. Should > you doubt any of this, keep in mind that Apple has never manufactured > *anything*. They are assemblers like Compaq, Dell, etc. ===== Funny Lance, the last time I opened ALL my Macs, And I've had a Plus, SE(2), SE/30, IICx, 8100/80, 8500/150, ALL the motherboards had a "Copr Apple Computer" printed on the motherboard(s)...etc... You may want to call Apple's hardware "simplistic and cheap top manufacture", which is what *every* PC clone maker would want to have, so that's not necessarily bad. Apple has, through the years had a higher reliability that other PC's, and yes, we all know of the exceptions like the PB 5300 and 1710 monitors and the performa's...but that comes nowhere near the majority of the product line...please, do I hear the beginnings of LanceFUD starting... Regards, -- Jim Polaski-->Polaski P/D/C, 15 West Hubbard‹ 4th Floor, Chicago,IL 60610 Photography, Design, Computer Consulting(Macintosh) : E-mail: jpolaski@no.wwa.com "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return!" ... a traveler on the information highway, who stops often to look around.
From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Prelude and EOF Date: Tue, 08 Jul 1997 22:38:25 -0800 Organization: Ken Cunningham, MD, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R0807972238250001@news.direct.ca> References: <33C0A69F.2A9D@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <33C0A69F.2A9D@tamtam.xs4all.nl>, hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl wrote: > I have installed my Prelude to Rhapsody (Intel/Mach) and WebObjects. > The WebObjects package needs EOF. I cannot find EOF on the CD ROM's. > Where can I find it? Or does the WebObjects package works on Intel/NT > only? > > hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl Apple has it on their web site for download. Don't have the exact URL for you, but go to <http://devworld.apple.com> and follow the links to Rhapsody. Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.unix.unixware,misc.security,sci.eng.safety From: jackson@usenix.org (Jackson Dodd) Subject: 7th USENIX Security Symposium - Call for Papers Message-ID: <ED275H.K9n@usenix.org> Keywords: USENIX, conference, security Organization: USENIX Association Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 16:00:53 GMT ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS 7th USENIX Security Symposium January 26-29, 1998 Marriott Hotel-- San Antonio, Texas Sponsored by the USENIX Association, the UNIX and Advanced Computing Systems Professional and Technical Association In cooperation with: The CERT Coordination Center. Important Dates for Refereed Papers Papers due: September 9, 1997 Author notification: October 8, 1997 Camera-ready final papers due: December 9, 1997 Registration Materials Available: End October, 1997 (Authors, see "How to Submit a Refereed Paper" below.) PROGRAM CHAIR Avi Rubin, AT&T Labs - Research PROGRAM COMMITTEE Carlisle Adams, Nortel Dave Balenson, Trusted Information Systems Steve Bellovin, AT&T Research Dan Boneh, Bellcore Diane Coe, Concept5 Technologies Ed Felten, Princeton University Li Gong, JavaSoft Peter Honeyman, CITI, University of Michigan Hugo Krawczyk, IBM Watson Labs Jack Lacy, AT&T Research Hilarie Orman, DARPA/ITO Mike Reiter, AT&T Research David Wagner, University of California, Berkeley READERS Katherine T. Fithen, CERT Trent Jaeger, IBM Watson Labs Invited talks coordinator: Greg Rose, Qualcomm Australia Conference home page: <http://www.usenix.org/sec/sec98.html> OVERVIEW The goal of this symposium is to bring together researchers, practitioners, system programmers, and others interested in the latest advances in security and applications of cryptography. This will be a four day symposium with two days of tutorials, followed by two days of refereed paper presentations, invited talks, works-in-progress presentations, and panel discussions. TUTORIALS Monday and Tuesday, January 26-27 Tutorials for both technical staff and managers will provide immediately useful, practical information on topics such as local and network security precautions, what cryptography can and cannot do, security mechanisms and policies, firewalls and monitoring systems. If you are interested in proposing a tutorial, contact the tutorial coordinator, Dan Klein: phone (412)421-2332 email <dvk@usenix.org>. TECHNICAL SESSIONS Wednesday and Thursday, January 28-29 In addition to the keynote presentation, the technical program includes refereed papers, invited talks, a Works-in-Progress session, and panel sessions. There will be Birds-of-a-Feather sessions the last two evenings. You are invited to make suggestions to the program committee via email to <security-pc@usenix.org>. Papers that have been formally reviewed and accepted will be presented during the symposium and published in the symposium proceedings, published by USENIX and provided free to technical session attendees. Additional copies will be available for purchase from USENIX. SYMPOSIUM TOPICS Refereed paper submissions are being solicited in areas including but not limited to: * Adaptive security and system management * Analysis of malicious code * Applications of cryptographic techniques * Attacks against networks/machines * Computer misuse and anomaly detection * Copyright protection (technical solutions) * Cryptographic & other security tools * File and file system security * Network security * New firewall technologies * Security in heterogeneous environments * Security incident investigation and response * Security of Mobile Code * User/system authentication * World Wide Web security Note that this symposium is not about new codes, ciphers, nor cryptanalysis for its own sake. Papers must represent novel scientific contributions in computer security with direct relevance to the engineering of secure systems for the commercial sector. HOW TO SUBMIT A REFEREED PAPER (Please read carefully.) The guidelines for submission are a bit different from previous years. Authors must submit a mature paper in postscript format. Any incomplete sections (there shouldn't be many) should be outlined in enough detail to make it clear that they could be finished easily. Full papers are encouraged, and should be about 8 to 15 typeset pages. Submissions must be received by September 9, 1997. Along with your paper, please submit a separate email message containing the title, all authors, and their complete contact information (phone, fax, postal address, email), including an indication of which author is the contact author. Authors will be notified of acceptance on October 8, 1997. All submissions will be judged on originality, relevance, and correctness. Each accepted submission may be assigned a member of the program committee to act as its shepherd through the preparation of the final paper. The assigned member will act as a conduit for feedback from the committee to the authors. Camera-ready final papers are due on December 9, 1997. If you would like to receive detailed guidelines for submission and examples of extended abstracts, you may send email to: <securityauthors@usenix.org> or telephone the USENIX Association office at (510) 528-8649. The Security Symposium, like most conferences and journals, requires that papers not be submitted simultaneously to another conference or publication and that submitted papers not be previously or subsequently published elsewhere. Papers accompanied by non-disclosure agreement forms are not acceptable and will be returned to the author(s) unread. All submissions are held in the highest confidentiality prior to publication in the Proceedings, both as a matter of policy and in accord with the U.S. Copyright Act of 1976. There will be one or two prizes awarded for best paper(s). WHERE TO SUBMIT For reliability, please send one copy of your paper to the program committee via each of the following two methods. All submissions will be acknowledged. o Email Postscript to: securitypapers@usenix.org o Send a hard copy to: Security Symposium USENIX 2560 Ninth St., Ste. #215 Berkeley CA 94710 U.S.A. Phone: (510) 528-8649 Fax: (510) 548-5738 Vendor Exhibits Demonstrate your security product to our technically astute attendees responsible for security at their sites. We invite you to take part in the Vendor Display. The table-top display allows you to meet with attendees informally and demonstrate in detail your security solutions. Contact: Cynthia Deno Email: cynthia@usenix.org Phone: 408.335.9445 Fax: 408.335.5327 Works-in-Progress Session (WIPs) The last session of the symposium will be a Works-in-Progress session consisting of five minute presentations. Speakers should provide a one or two paragraph abstract to the program chair by 6:00 pm on January 28, 1998 at the conference. These should be provided in person, not via email. The chair will post the schedule of presentations by noon on the 29th. Experience at other conferences has shown that usually, all of them are accepted. The five minute time limit will be strictly enforced. INVITED TALKS There will be several invited talks at the conference in parallel with the refereed papers. If you have suggestions for possible speakers, please send them to <security@usenix.org>. REGISTRATION MATERIALS Materials containing all details of the technical and tutorial programs, registration fees and forms, and hotel information will be available at the end of October 1997. To receive the registration materials, please contact: USENIX Conference Office 22672 Lambert Street, Suite 613 Lake Forest, CA USA 92630 Phone: (714) 588-8649 Fax: (714) 588-9706 Email: <conference@usenix.org> Information can also be found under the Conference home page: <http://www.usenix.org/sec/sec98.html>.
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.2 for Mach Experience Date: 9 Jul 1997 11:09:50 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5pvrhu$m7m$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <5pt1od$2hb@thoth.portal.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: pok@prometheus.digital-rain.com In <5pt1od$2hb@thoth.portal.ca> pok wrote: > > > By the way, does anyone know of a good communications program for calling > BBS's? Kermit is absolutely intolerable. kermit is cool for Unix experts. It just works. If you want a fancy app, look for TipTop. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Which Faxmodems work together with NXFax? Date: 9 Jul 1997 11:14:43 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5pvrr3$m7m$2@radjah.navigator.de> References: <5pqqke$3te$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> <5ps2qj$d6l$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: cejensen@bitstream.net In <5ps2qj$d6l$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Christian Jensen wrote: > ZyXEL - Elite 2864 > > [This info obtained direct from B&W Software on 3/10/97] > Elite 2864 I depends on the firmware revision. The most recent 2.07/1.16 fails in receiving faxes with NXFax. 2.04/1.13a works. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: Damn Yankee<damnyankee@yankee.inc> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Yankee Inc. Subject: I Am Very Sorry!!! Message-ID: <33c2597c.2@nntp.kalnet.net> Date: 8 Jul 97 15:15:08 GMT I would like to apologise to this newsgroup and everyone who reads this newsgroup!!! I promise never to post or send spam to this or any other newsgroup that does not pertain to my posting!!! Please accept my humble apology and again I will never post spam here again!!! Thank You!!! Andrew Schero yank714@kalnet.net
From: Patrick <pjenki1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Questions concerning my NeXTstation (modem, ethernet, etc) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 1997 00:29:21 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970709002407.2115A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: pjenki1 Hello all! I hope this the correct group to post to... I have a next slab (040, 25mhz) with ns 3.3 installed. Whenever I try to use HostManager or SimpleNetworkStarter (or any network related tool), the settings can never be saved with NetInfo because "netinfo is readonly". What am I doing wrong? I am logged in as root... User Manager doesn't work (ends w/ the same error). thanks for your help! this is probably something really simple, but I am fairly new to Next (got it ~ 1 1/2 weeks ago :-) cya, Patrick Jenkins --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Patrick email: url: Jenkins pjenki1@gl.umbc.edu http://www.gl.umbc.edu/~pjenki1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Questions concerning my NeXTstation (modem, ethernet, etc) Date: 10 Jul 1997 12:15:08 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5q2joc$org$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <Pine.SGI.3.95.970709002407.2115A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: pjenki1@gl.umbc.edu In <Pine.SGI.3.95.970709002407.2115A-100000@umbc10.umbc.edu> Patrick wrote: > Whenever I try to use HostManager or SimpleNetworkStarter > (or any network related tool), the settings can never be saved with > NetInfo because "netinfo is readonly". What am I doing wrong? I am > logged in as root... User Manager doesn't work (ends w/ the same error). It's one of two things: The master property of the / directory lists a hostname which isn't the current hostname of your machine. The trusted_hosts property of the / directory lists a network number which doesn't match your current network number. I'm assuming here that you have a two level domain on your machine with the top level '/' omain tagged as 'network', which is what you get from SimpleNetworkStarter.app. The things can be fixed by dumping out the contents of the netinfo database in 'raw' mode: nidump -r / / > /tmp/netinfo.raw Then editing the raw mode data to correct the problems --- the stuff you need to change is right up close to the top of the file --- and then rebuilding the netinfo domain: cd /etc/netinfo mv network.nidb network-old.nidb kill -HUP `cat /etc/nibindd.pid` nidomain -m network niload -r -t / localhost/network < /tmp/netinfo.raw kill -HUP `cat /etc/nibindd.pid` Everything should check out OK now using HostManager.app or NetInfoManager.app: if all seems to be well, go ahead and reboot the machine. You can delete the old network domain later at your leisure once you're happy that everything really is OK: nidomain -d network-old On the other hand, you could blow away any netinfo data you have and replace it with the defaults from the template: cd /etc/netinfo rm -rf *.nidb cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo/local.nidb . reboot Beware that this will destroy *all* of the data currently stored in your netinfo (passwords, NFS mounts, etc. etc.) and return your machine pretty much to a virgin "just out of the box" state --- do this entirely at your own risk. Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Two problems with (black) monitor Message-ID: <ED3s75.KMz@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:33:02 GMT In article <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) writes: > > hi! > I have a black NeXtStation... I'm running into a couple of problems > with the monitor: > > - The monitor screen area seems to have shrunk over time (i.e., same > pixel resolution, but the actual dimensions in inches seems to have > shrunk over time)... > If you're familiar with TV set technology you could open the monitor and adjust the heidth and width. But beware if not. Danger High Voltage! > - A few times (e.g., 1/10) after power-on, the monitor won't come up > (i.e., nothing shows on the monitor, not even the "Testing..." > screen) at all.. If I wait a while and try power-cycling again a few > times, it finally works... > To me it sounds like a monitor slowly dying. But it could also be a problem of the power supply... > Any idea what might be going on in either of the two problems above? > Is the monitor or the computer on its way to dying? > -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Support for old HP printer? Message-ID: <ED3sDt.KpB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <AFE870E7-752E@207.220.146.84> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 12:37:04 GMT In article <AFE870E7-752E@207.220.146.84> "Frank Alviani" <alviani@ix.netcom.com> writes: Hello all, > > I have an old HP DeskWriter (Mac) that I no longer use. I have also just > set up an Intel system with OpenStep 4.2 (Prelude to Rhapsody CDs), and > was wondering if there was any way to use the HP with it? > If you were up for a hack you could try to set up a serial or parallel line connection. You might need to enable the operating system to support your corresponding ports (Configure.app). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 1997 13:14:26 -0600 From: Alan J. Roy <alanjroy@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Message-ID: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows or Mac :^( Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City area. Thanks Alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City Date: 10 Jul 1997 21:27:56 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5q3k4s$2h6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: alanjroy@worldnet.att.net In <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Alan J. Roy wrote: > Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows > or Mac :^( > > Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City > area. > > Thanks > > Alan > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > www.precipice.com -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 1997 18:02:10 -0600 From: ccboone@amber.indstate.edu Subject: Bootdisk for NS 3.3 or 4.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <868661496.20898@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I am in need of a way to make a bootdisk for an intel machine. I have Openstep 4.0, but I can't find the bootdisk. Can someone help me with this problem. Please reply by emailing me at my personal address below. Thanks, Charles Boone System Administrator -- Indiana State University email - ccboone@amber.indstate.edu -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1 Date: 13 Jul 1997 01:01:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i installed wp 1.0.1 on my Next Turbo Color Station and i have the follwing problem: when i type in a wp document, some of the typed letters, like s, don't appear on screen. also, the backspace key adds an additional space. is there a way that i can fix this? any help is appreciated. hs
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat+next+usenet@luomat.peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with WordPerfect 1.0.1 Date: 13 Jul 1997 02:14:54 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5q9dmu$skg$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu In <5q99e1$dsr@ttacs7.ttu.edu> seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: is this a ADB system? What is the date in the 'Info' panel? (there were more than one version 1.0.1) TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org>
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From: a5@a.a Subject: $$$ NEW SYSTEM, BETTER THAN "ADD ME TO YOUR MAILING LIST" $ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: 17 Message-ID: <33c9247b.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:54:51 GMT I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195
From: a13@a.a Subject: $$$$$ LOAN BUSINESS, EASY MONTHLY INCOME, NO BRAINER $$$$$$$ Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: 3 Message-ID: <33c9248b.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 13 Jul 97 18:55:07 GMT I have participated in the standard "Please put me on your mailing list" letter and found it to be worth my time (I get 1 or 2 handfulls or letters every day) but I also found that it's results were nowhere near what I expected due mainly to people not sending in the money but rather spreading the letter without paying for it. I participated in that mainly as an experiment and found that there are a tremendous amount of people willing to do it. I thought about how to, first, eliminate the "non-pay" problem and, second, to create a monthly income. I came upon the solution and decided to start a new program. I decided that there were 3 things that this new program needed in order to work for everyone and they were: 1.) It needed to be very simple and easy for anyone to do, and, 2.) It needed to be inexpensive enough for even the poorest of people, and, 3.) It needs to be DUPLICATABLE. I think you will find this program to meet those requirements. I have put lots of thought into it and I ask that you PLEASE do NOT modify it. This WILL WORK if you follow it. This system is based on the unconditional "loaning" of money to people. Simply say, "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can." You should find 5 or more people who will send $2 to the 5 needy people on this list AND MAINTAIN 5 or more people who will do the same. You should put your name on postition number 5 and move each of the other names up one position. The name originally on position number 1 gets removed. You should be able to contact each of your 5 or more people to see if they are going to be active this month. If not then you need to find one or more people to be active in order to maintain at least 5. I am not speaking about the 5 people on the list but rather the 5 new people you have found. I would highly suggest having more than 5 in any given month. Now I know that this would be extremely easy to do since I can think of at least 20 people myself who will do this consistently. The key is to maintain at LEAST 5 active people. If you don't then you can't expect for the rest of the people to do it either and you can't expect for this system to work. This system is a no-brainer, and if someone can't afford the $10 + stamps for this then they truly ARE in need! It is OK to use the internet to find people but I think it would be easier to find them through people that you know. This way it will be easier for you to contact them every month to ask about their being active, unless someone is willing to give you their e-mail address. Here are some numbers: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 4 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 4 people = $8, Total now $8 Level 2: $2 x 16 people = $32, Total now $8 + $32 = $40 Level 3: $2 x 64 people = $128, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 = $168 Level 4: $2 x 256 people = $512, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 = $680 Level 5: $2 x 1024 people = $2048, Total now $8 + $32 + $128 + $512 + $2048 = *** $2728 *** Yearly income: $2728 x 12 months = $32,736 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 5 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 5 people = $10, Total now $10 Level 2: $2 x 25 people = $50, Total now $10 + $50 = $60 Level 3: $2 x 125 people = $250, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 = $310 Level 4: $2 x 500 people = $1000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 = $1310 Level 5: $2 x 2500 people = $5000, Total now $10 + $50 + $250 + $1000 + $5000 = *** $6310 *** Yearly income: $6310 x 12 months = $75,720 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 6 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 6 people = $12, Total now $12 Level 2: $2 x 36 people = $72, Total now $12 + $72 = $84 Level 3: $2 x 216 people = $432, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 = $516 Level 4: $2 x 1296 people = $2592, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 = $3108 Level 5: $2 x 7776 people = $15552, Total now $12 + $72 + $432 + $2592 + $15552 = *** $18660 *** Yearly income: $18660 x 12 months = $223,920 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Monthly income model per level and total for maintaining 7 active members @ $2 each: Level 1: $2 x 7 people = $14, Total now $14 Level 2: $2 x 49 people = $98, Total now $14 + $98 = $112 Level 3: $2 x 343 people = $686, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 = $798 Level 4: $2 x 2401 people = $4802, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 = $5600 Level 5: $2 x 16807 people = $33614, Total now $14 + $98 + $686 + $4802 + $33614 = *** $39214 *** Yearly income: $39214 x 12 months = $470,568 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep in mind that it does not matter what day of the month that someone chooses to be active. It DOES matter that they are active on that day EVERY month. The key to this is DUPLICATION! You must treat this as a business. If you treat it like a hobby that is how it will treat you. You could even organize small meetings with your people and their prospects and work with your leaders. Think of how easy this would be for you, how reasonable this is, and of how good the chances are of it working for you. You may need to hire someone to open all the envelopes. NOTE: I decided on $2 instead of $1 because it is more feasible and it won't matter much for someone to send $2 as opposed to $1. Also I was against $5 as that becomes too expensive to duplicate. Mail $2 every month with a piece of paper saying "I am loaning you this $2 as an act of goodwill to help you in your financial need, you may pay me back if and when you can" to the following needy people: #1 Robert Jezil 114 Jefferson Ave. Slidell, LA 70460 #2 Phil Walther Jr. 9495 Annapolis Lane North Maple Grove, MN 55369 #3 C. E. Burkman 170 University Ave. W Suite 12-129 Waterloo, Ontario N2L 3E9 #4 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #5 J. Martin P.O. Box 2292 Reston, Va. 20195
Date: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 18:37:30 -0600 From: ccboone@amber.indstate.edu Subject: Problem with Adaptec 2940UW and NS 3.3 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <868836333.29416@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I am having trouble with booting NS 3.3 with an Adaptec 2940UW. I see that the actual device is found, but then it aborts trying to register it later in the boot process. Then I am unable to mount root. I am using the 3.37 driver. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Charles Boone System Administrator Indiana State University -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: probs installing Openstep 4.2 prerelease 2 (WWDC version) Date: 14 Jul 1997 02:32:06 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I'm having problems installing Openstep 4.2 prelease 2 for Mach on Intel (the version given out at Apple's World-Wide Developer Conference recently). I get stuck on the "NeXT Mach Operating System" screen right after the step where you select drivers for the hard drive and CD-ROM. At the bottom it says: BLC timeout Resetting SCSI bus... BLC timeout Resetting SCSI bus... and loops endlessly. My computer's hardware: Pentium II, ASUS KN97-X motherboard, BusLogic BT-958 SCSI controller (Ultra/Wide), UW SCSI hard drive, SCSI-II CD-ROM, PS/2 mouse, Adaptec 6901C ethernet card, internal SCSI Zip drive. All the SCSI devices are connected to the one BusLogic controller. The IDs are: hard drive is 0, CD-ROM is 2, Zip is 5, controller is 7. I selected "BusLogic PCI SCSI Adapter (v4.01) (Dev:12 Func:0 Bus:0)" as the driver for both the hard drive and CD-ROM. This must be the correct driver since selecting other drivers caused a different type of failure. I couldn't find anything out of the ordinary about this driver in the NextAnswers page. Anyone know what might be the problem here? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- P.S. The last few lines before it begins to loop are: PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 BusLogic controller at port 0xd800 BusLogic: 16 Targets per bus; Host ID=7 Resetting SCSI bus... Registering: sc0 BLC timeout Resetting SCSI bus... BLC timeout Resetting SCSI bus... etc. A note on SCSI bus termination: SCSI bus termination still seems somewhat complex to me, especially when you have a mixed wide/narrow bus. The card has a wide (68-pin) connector and a narrow (50-pin) connector on the inside of the machine. Off of the wide connector is the hard drive which doesn't appear to have termination enabled, and then a free connector, which doesn't seem to have anything in it. Off of the narrow connector is the Zip drive without termination enabled, then a free connector, then the CD-ROM which does have termination enabled. I currently have both Windows95 and Linux (RedHat 4.2) installed on the computer and both appear to work fine with all SCSI devices. When I first tried it, the CD-ROM was set to SCSI id 1 and did not have termination enabled, but Win95 and Linux still worked fine. It doesn't seem like the wide end of the bus is terminated to me but I can't terminate it at the moment. I don't have an active terminator to stick on the last wide connector and I don't have an appropriately sized jumper to stick onto the jumper slot no the hard drive to enable its termination. I guess the vendor I bought the computer from recently didn't include any and the ones from the CD-ROM and Zip drive of which I have a few extra seem to be too big to fit. But if this is really a termination problem, why do Win95 and Linux work fine? Linux taxes the SCSI bus just as much as Openstep, one would think. I'll call the local electronics store (Fry's) and find out how much an active wide terminator costs.
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From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Problem with Adaptec 2940UW and NS 3.3 Date: 14 Jul 1997 14:06:45 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5qdbpl$u8$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <868836333.29416@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Cc: ccboone@amber.indstate.edu In <868836333.29416@dejanews.com> ccboone@amber.indstate.edu wrote: > I am having trouble with booting NS 3.3 with an Adaptec 2940UW. I see > that the actual device is found, but then it aborts trying to register it > later in the boot process. Then I am unable to mount root. I am using > the 3.37 driver. Any help would be appreciated. NS 3.3 doesn't recognise some recent models of the Adaptec 2940 SCSI controller because Adaptec keeps revising the PCI ID No. of the controller with new hardware versions. However, you can make the driver recognise the card in the following manner: i) On bootup, find the PCI ID number for the Adaptec card from the list of PCI devices. It will end in the digits 789004 --- probably 0x61789004 ii) Now comes the tricky part. You need to get access to the file /usr/Devices/Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config/Instance0.table on your hard disk. Either (a) you've got to mount your disk somehow, or (b) you've got to re-install NS 3.3. iii-a) Getting access to the contents of a SCSI disk: If you have a second machine with a working SCSI bus, it is often easiest to physically pull the disk out of the first machine and connect it temporarily to the second. Remember that you will have to change the SCSI ID by fiddling with various jumpers so that the two disks on the same bus don't conflict. Alternatively you can pull out the Adaptec SCSI card and replace it with a recognised version, and then boot 'config=Default'. iv-a) Edit the file /private/Drivers/i386/Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config/Instance0.table. Change the line that says: "Auto Detect IDs" = "0x70789004 0x71789004 0x72789004 0x73789004 0x74789004 0x75789004 0x76789004 0x77789004 0x78789004 0x79789004 0x7a789004 0x7b789004 0x7c789004 0x7d789004 0x7e789004"; so that it reads "Auto Detect IDs" = "0x61789004 0x70789004 0x71789004 0x72789004 0x73789004 0x74789004 0x75789004 0x76789004 0x77789004 0x78789004 0x79789004 0x7a789004 0x7b789004 0x7c789004 0x7d789004 0x7e789004"; (ie. add your PCI ID number to the list) v-a) Now put your machine back together and reboot. Et Voila --- one working SCSI controller. Alternative b --- re-installing the system: iii-b) In this case you will need to prepare an 'Extra_Drivers' floppy with a tweaked version of the driver. That's just a standard NeXT formatted floppy with the appropriate drivers copied into /floppy-name/private/Drivers/i386/ --- ie. copy the Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config into there. iv-b) Edit the file /floppy-name/private/Drivers/i386/Adaptec2940SCSIDriver.config/Default.table as above, adding the PCI ID number of your Adaptec card to the "Auto Detect IDs" list. v-b) Re-install the system as per usual, but when prompted to load the driver for your CD ROm or hard disk, use the modified driver you made earlier. You'll be prompted several times during the install sequence to insert the Extra_Drivers disk to reload the modified driver. Oh --- under OS 4.x this isn't a problem, as the driver configuration has been updated to do wildcard matches against PCI ID numbers. The equivalent line from the Instance0.table file from the 4.x driver reads: "Auto Detect IDs" = "0x00789004&0x00ffffff"; Cheers, Matthew [Posted and mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
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From: 1kyriaki@rzdspc42.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Valentino Kyriakides) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SUMMARY: Faxmodems and NXFax Date: 14 Jul 1997 16:22:22 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5qdjnu$nvf$2@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> SUMMARY of NXFax 1.04 supported faxmodems! ========================================== Two weeks ago I asked in [comp.sys.next.misc], [comp.sys.next.hardware] and [de.comp.sys.next] newsgroups the NS/OS community for informations and experiences of NXFax 1.04 supported faxmodems. A lot of kind people have answered and I would like to thank all of them for their help!!! Janice Kenyon <sales@bandw.com> and Christian Jensen <cejensen@bitstream.net> provided me with the following list of Class 2 modems that have been tested by Black & White Software, Inc. with NXFax 1.04 to date: ---------------------------------------------------------- Boca Research - Boca 14.4 Boca Research - BocaModem 28.8 Diamond - SupraSonic 288 V+ MultiTech - MT1432BA MultiTech - MT1932ZDX Neuron - 1414 with ZyXEL ROM upgrade Practical Peripherals - FXSA, FXMT, FXPKT *Supra - SupraFAX 14.4 v32.bis *Supra - SupraFAX 288 Telebit - WorldBlazer, T3000 Zoom - VFX, 28.8 ZyXEL - all U-1496 models ZyXEL - Omni 288S ZyXEL - Elite 2864 NOTE: NXFax does not support Class 1 modems. * = Note the SupraExpress 288 modem is not a class 2 modem and does not work with NXFax. Provided the modem is a Class 2 modem, then the Rockwell chip set should work with NXFax. However, note that the above list includes those modems Black & White Software know work for sure. ---------------------------------------------------------- Greg Shaw <gshaw@zeta.org.au> uses successfully an Australian brand modem - (Netcom M34F). His experiences have shown, that as far as support of the Class 2 fax standard is concerned some modems do not fully support the standard. Greg reports that NXFax is VERY reliant on a full implementation of the standard. So a manufacturer may state Class 2 support but until you check it with NXFax you will not know how well they do it. Uli Zappe <uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> one of the staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine - reported that the Knopex 28.800 modem (also available as "Connect 28.800" and "XLINK 28.800" from some german dealers) works without problems under NS black hardware. The modems design also fits greatly with NS black hardware, since it has a black metal case and icon symbols instead of plain LEDs. Some people reported that they only tested the sending of faxes successfully with some modems, but there are chances that these would also allow the receiving of faxes with NXFax. For example: Ruediger Oberhage <ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE> reported the successfull sending of faxes with the popular german (ELSA MicroLink 33.6 TQV) modem even under OS4.1/Intel with NXFax 1.04. Others reported similar results with (Dr. Neuhaus Smarty 28.8 TI) and (Creatix SG 2834) modems. NOTE: the popular US Robotics modems don't work together with NXFax, since these modems don't have class 2 fax support. The USR modems have class 2.0 fax implemeted, which seems to differ in some little but relevant points from class 2 fax! People with modems that don't work together with NXFax 1.04 should try out the following drivers: "OlafAM" which is available on the german peanuts ftp-server, or contact Olaf Mueller <olaf@orest.escape.de> the author of "OlafAM" for further details. "JollysClass2.0_Fax" from Patrick "Jolly" Stein, which is also available on the peanuts ftp-server. Peanuts ftp-server: ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/next http://www.leo.org -- +----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Valentino Kyriakides Universitaet Hamburg | | 1kyriaki@informatik.uni-hamburg.de FB. Informatik, AB. SWT | +----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BLC timeout installing Openstep4.2-pre2 w/ BusLogic 958 SCSI Date: 14 Jul 1997 23:13:19 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qebqf$l41$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I've now correctly terminated both ends of my SCSI bus, and confirmed that the driver I'm selecting is the correct one for the BT-958 controller, but I'm getting the same endless loop of BLC timeout and then reset of the SCSI bus. Anyone else using this card with Openstep 4.2? -Karl In article <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) writes: >I'm having problems installing Openstep 4.2 prelease 2 for Mach on Intel >(the version given out at Apple's World-Wide Developer Conference recently). >I get stuck on the "NeXT Mach Operating System" screen right after the step >where you select drivers for the hard drive and CD-ROM. At the bottom it says: > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... >and loops endlessly. > >My computer's hardware: Pentium II, ASUS KN97-X motherboard, BusLogic BT-958 >SCSI controller (Ultra/Wide), UW SCSI hard drive, SCSI-II CD-ROM, PS/2 mouse, >Adaptec 6901C ethernet card, internal SCSI Zip drive. > >All the SCSI devices are connected to the one BusLogic controller. >The IDs are: hard drive is 0, CD-ROM is 2, Zip is 5, controller is 7. >I selected "BusLogic PCI SCSI Adapter (v4.01) (Dev:12 Func:0 Bus:0)" as the >driver for both the hard drive and CD-ROM. This must be the correct driver >since selecting other drivers caused a different type of failure. I couldn't >find anything out of the ordinary about this driver in the NextAnswers page. > >Anyone know what might be the problem here? > >-Karl > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >P.S. The last few lines before it begins to loop are: > PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 > BusLogic controller at port 0xd800 > BusLogic: 16 Targets per bus; Host ID=7 > Resetting SCSI bus... > Registering: sc0 > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... > etc. > > >A note on SCSI bus termination: > >SCSI bus termination still seems somewhat complex to me, especially when you >have a mixed wide/narrow bus. The card has a wide (68-pin) connector and a >narrow (50-pin) connector on the inside of the machine. Off of the wide >connector is the hard drive which doesn't appear to have termination >enabled, and then a free connector, which doesn't seem to have anything in >it. Off of the narrow connector is the Zip drive without termination >enabled, then a free connector, then the CD-ROM which does have termination >enabled. I currently have both Windows95 and Linux (RedHat 4.2) installed on >the computer and both appear to work fine with all SCSI devices. > >When I first tried it, the CD-ROM was set to SCSI id 1 and did not have >termination enabled, but Win95 and Linux still worked fine. It doesn't seem >like the wide end of the bus is terminated to me but I can't terminate it at >the moment. I don't have an active terminator to stick on the last wide >connector and I don't have an appropriately sized jumper to stick onto the >jumper slot no the hard drive to enable its termination. I guess the vendor >I bought the computer from recently didn't include any and the ones from the >CD-ROM and Zip drive of which I have a few extra seem to be too big to fit. >But if this is really a termination problem, why do Win95 and Linux work >fine? Linux taxes the SCSI bus just as much as Openstep, one would think. >I'll call the local electronics store (Fry's) and find out how much an active >wide terminator costs.
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 18:03:49 -0600 From: jorice@hotmail.com Subject: NeXT/Rhapsody at SIGGRAPH? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.graphics.misc Message-ID: <868920904.32411@dejanews.com> Organization: Trinity College Dublin Does anyone know if there is going to any NeXT/Rhapsody presence at SIGGRAPH in L.A. in August? I've just completed a PhD in computer graphics (fractals, implicit surfaces - see http://isg.cs.tcd.ie/~jorice ) and I want to find some birds of a feather (and hopefully a job too) while I'm there. I would have thought that there should be lots of interest in a "Graphics/Multimedia under Rhapsody" BOF session, no? -- Jonathan Rice -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: "Daniel B." <wnsup556@postoffice.worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Searching for an ISP who understand UNIX aka NeXT in NY City Date: 15 Jul 1997 01:55:01 GMT Organization: WorldNet Message-ID: <01bc90c1$c034b9a0$8422a8c0@cube154a> References: <868555363.27387@dejanews.com> Hi there, > Yes! I called ATT and MCI and they only know about MS Windows > or Mac :^( > > Could some kind soul leads me an ISP in the New York City > area. I work for ATT and its true that we don''t do tech support for NeXT. But you can use any operating system that you want. The easiest way to get an account is to register on a Mac or peecee. Otherwise you can use one of these two pages: http://204.127.2.1/cgi-bin/nsregister http://order.worldnet.att.net/att/att.asp?BID=L50Q&PID=3000&SESSION=36258 this should get you into the service, you'll have to setup the software all by yourself, we don't have any training outside of Micro$oft products at peecee support and the same is true at Mac support. although you might be lucky regardless of wether or not you use win95, win3.x or mac we can give you the server settings, like dns server. good luck -- Daniel B. wnsup556@worldnet.att.net dbisping@students.wisc.edu hifiboywi@aol.com They said I needed Windows 3.1 or better, so I bought a Macintosh. Then they said I needed Windows 95 or better, so I bought another Macintosh. Now they tell me I need Windows NT 4.0 or better. (Sigh) I bought another Macintosh.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ND faster than 200 MHz Pentium Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 23:01:43 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1407972301430001@116.cincinnati-001.oh.dial-access.att.net> I have a 200 MHz Pentium and I wanted to show a friend how fast it was running OpenStep 4.1 so I showed him BackSpace running the Boink module in full screen mode. Then a grabbed a window to show him that the ball would keep bouncing...but it stopped! I thought this was strange even though it started again as soon as the drag was over. I have a NeXT Turbo Dimension Cube running 4.1 sitting beside the Intel so I fired it up and tried the same trick. Just like I remembered, the ball bounced while I dragged the window around the screen, although more slowly than when I wasn't dragging. What gives? I don't have a turbo ColorStation to try this on, but I was wondering if this was a function of the ND board, or just a function of better design and engineering of the black hardware. Mitch
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install hanging with AMD 486 chips? Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 19:57:15 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-1407971957150001@ppp-207-105-88-29.snrf01.pacbell.net> Has anybody experienced a install hang while using an AMD 486DX-4 chip? Thanks! =Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Whereabouts of Deepspace Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EDBAxL.K7K@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 1997 14:00:57 GMT References: <ED682o.oEC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <01bc8fac$fe358b00$68ba5fcc@dionysus> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bc8fac$fe358b00$68ba5fcc@dionysus>, Zuc <andrew@e-net.com> wrote: >yes, I called to order some stuff from them before the 4th and they said >they will be on vacation from July 4th until July 15th. > That's the news I wanted to hear. Thanks a lot! -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: phy070@spo101 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BLC timeout installing Openstep4.2-pre2 w/ BusLogic 958 SCSI Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 15 Jul 1997 09:40:19 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qfgi3$8cg@sun3.uni-essen.de> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <5qebqf$l41$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Karl Pfleger (kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU) wrote: : I've now correctly terminated both ends of my SCSI bus, and confirmed that : the driver I'm selecting is the correct one for the BT-958 controller, : but I'm getting the same endless loop of BLC timeout and then reset of the : SCSI bus. Anyone else using this card with Openstep 4.2? No, I'm not, but ... : : [...] : >where you select drivers for the hard drive and CD-ROM. At the bottom it says: : > BLC timeout : > Resetting SCSI bus... : > BLC timeout : > Resetting SCSI bus... : >and loops endlessly. ... I can reproduce your behaviour with an Adaptec 2940 U/W quite easily by (all physical things being setup correctly) not telling the adapter to not(!) send an initate-comanand and to not(!) negotiate with (what follows) and to use 20 MB/s only with a Nomai 540 MCD drive (serving as a SyQuest 3270S replacement). I.e. this drive hangs the bus, although being detected correctly before, in the same manner, you describe. After changing the settings (for the ID of this drive only in my case), everything runs fine. In your config (assuming an U/W disk can do U/W :-)), the SCSI CDROM- drive and the Zip-driver (especially) are possible candidates. I could determine the device by booting verbose and the first device not reporting back (i.e. disk recognized (in may case), MCD driver didn't even show up in this(!) phase, it did before) was the culprit. Maybe this works for you too? Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120
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From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: OPENSTEP 4.2 C-Program Accessing Matlab Date: Tue, 15 Jul 1997 17:36:35 -0600 Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Distribution: inet Message-ID: <33CC0983.227C@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: engelman Has anyone ever written a C-Program under OPENSTEP 4.2 running on top of Windows NT which makes calls to a Matlab computational engine? -Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Engelmann Nonlinear and Real-Time Control Lab Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Engineering, Campus Box 425 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309-0425 (303)492-2818 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 09:21:05 -0600 From: rmitchel@swri.edu Subject: Scroll with keyboard? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <869061261.27688@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Does anyone out there know if it's possible to scroll through a window's contents without having to drag the scroll bar? I miss the page up/page down keys on my ADB keyboard, and was wondering if there might be a key combination that I'm not aware of... -- Mitch -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scroll with keyboard? Date: 16 Jul 1997 23:53:05 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5qjmt1$s9v@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <869061261.27688@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <869061261.27688@dejanews.com> rmitchel@swri.edu wrote: > Does anyone out there know if it's possible to scroll through a window's > contents without having to drag the scroll bar? I miss the page up/page > down keys on my ADB keyboard, and was wondering if there might be a key > combination that I'm not aware of... > -- Mitch AFAIK it's application specific, eg RadicalNews.app (as well as NewsGrazer.app) has <spacebar> == page down; <arrowDown> == next article. then there's the page up / down arrows on some App's scroll bars, below the regular scroll arrows. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
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From: paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: probs installing Openstep 4.2 prerelease 2 (WWDC version) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 01:04:10 -0700 Organization: One Click Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <paul-1707970104100001@oneclick.vip.best.com> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In article <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) wrote: > I'm having problems installing Openstep 4.2 prelease 2 for Mach on Intel > (the version given out at Apple's World-Wide Developer Conference recently). > I get stuck on the "NeXT Mach Operating System" screen right after the step > where you select drivers for the hard drive and CD-ROM. At the bottom it says: > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... > BLC timeout > Resetting SCSI bus... > and loops endlessly. > > My computer's hardware: Pentium II, ASUS KN97-X motherboard, BusLogic BT-958 > SCSI controller (Ultra/Wide), UW SCSI hard drive, SCSI-II CD-ROM, PS/2 mouse, > Adaptec 6901C ethernet card, internal SCSI Zip drive. > > All the SCSI devices are connected to the one BusLogic controller. I'm far from an expert on this hardware, but here's my 2 cents: So are there two SCSI busses or one? If two, is the "Bus:0" driver really going to work? Maybe you need a "Bus:0" driver PLUS a "Bus:1" driver. As far as I know, the "one termination at each end" rule works best. From your description, it might help to plug in the free (wide) end connector into the drive and make sure its terminated. If there are really two buses, then make sure termination of both is "on" on the board itself. My Adaptec controller turned out to be in the middle (or would have been if an external device was attached). So if the two buses are really one, then don't terminate the board. Check the board and HD's manufacturer's web sites for termination specifics and dip switch pinouts where applicable. Configure the controller to use more conservative SCSI settings: slower transfer rate (I'm at 5MB), disable "reconnect" (or is it auto-disconnect?), look for settings that might be less taxing on the bus. I did a lot of this sort of thing on mine, it turned out I had the wrong driver selected (and had to adjust IRQ & DMA, but the SCSI controller (thru "Mach OS") told me specifically when that was the case. Good luck and keep at it! Paul Collins -- Paul Collins, Owner/Developer One Click Systems -- -- paul@oneclick.com http://www.oneclick.com/ -- -- Now shipping! ClickMail 1.1 Internet gateway for QuickMail --
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anybody use a DX-9500A VIP Board with OpenStep? Date: Wed, 16 Jul 1997 22:07:40 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-1607972207400001@ppp-207-104-16-7.snrf01.pacbell.net> Hi, I was wondering if anybody out there has successfully used a DX-9500 VIP motherboard running OpenStep. I am having the hardest time getting my system running. I am using SCSI disk and cd-rom and it still just wont work. I am going to upgrade, but an answer would save me a trip to the bank. Thanks a million! -Eric Harley
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From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Scroll with keyboard? Date: 17 Jul 1997 08:12:09 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <5qkk4p$an4@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <869061261.27688@dejanews.com> rmitchel@swri.edu writes > Does anyone out there know if it's possible to scroll through a window's > contents without having to drag the scroll bar? I miss the page up/page > down keys on my ADB keyboard, and was wondering if there might be a key > combination that I'm not aware of... On many windows you may Alt-click on the scroll buttons to get one page up or down. Some programs (like newsgrazer or Omniweb) support Space and Shift-Space for the same purpuse. Unfortunately there is no simple thing like PageUp/Down like on any stupid WinPC. Maybe under Rhapsody ... Robert -- --- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------'
Message-ID: <33CE23E2.276C@avcinc.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 09:53:38 -0400 From: Sandeep Kochhar <kochhar@avcinc.com> Organization: AVC MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Do these SCSI cards work for anyone on NS 3.3 / Intel ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi! Does anyone have any experience in whether or not these PCI SCSI cards work for NeXTStep 3.3 on a Pentium PC (I have a dual boot Win95/NS 3.3 machine): - Iomega Jaz Jet (with an Advansys chip on the card) - NEC SmartSCSI thanks. -- _____________________________________ Sandeep Kochhar, Computer Systems Architect Advanced Video Communications 128 Corporate Center, 70 Blanchard Road, Burlington, MA 01803. Tel: 617-238-0758; Fax: 617-238-0763. Email: kochhar@avcinc.com; URL: http://www.avcinc.com/people/kochhar
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From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: probs installing Openstep 4.2 prerelease 2 (WWDC version) Date: 17 Jul 1997 19:54:57 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qltah$c4d$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <paul-1707970104100001@oneclick.vip.best.com> In article <paul-1707970104100001@oneclick.vip.best.com> paul@oneclick.com (Paul Collins) writes: >In article <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU>, kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU >(Karl Pfleger) wrote: >> BLC timeout >> Resetting SCSI bus... >Configure the controller to use more conservative SCSI settings: slower >transfer rate (I'm at 5MB), disable "reconnect" (or is it >auto-disconnect?), look for settings that might be less taxing on the bus. >Paul Collins Thanks for the suggestion. Just tried setting the HD down to 10MB/s, the CD-Rom to 5, and the Zip to Async (which is all it will do anyway), and turning off disconnection on all of them, but that didn't change anything. On a separte try I disconnected the Zip alltogether. That didn't help either. Oh well. Looks like no more of my favorite apps for a while. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: dfriesen@amtsgi.bc.ca (Dale Friesen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IPX Support Date: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 11:10:35 -0800 Organization: Bolen Books, Inc Message-ID: <19970717111035381760@i3-48.islandnet.com> Does OpenStep support IPX? I'm thinking of putting it on one of the machines on our NetWare 4.1 network, but I want to make sure I'd have full access (ie not just through TCP/IP). tia -- Any opinions expressed are mine's and not the book store's. Dale Friesen Sysadmin Bolen Books, Inc Victoria, BC Canada dfriesen@amtsgi.bc.ca http://www.bolen.bc.ca
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: mic jack Date: 18 Jul 1997 00:13:57 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Hi, If I get the proper size jacks/adapters, can I plug say a walkman into the microphone jack on a mono monitor & record from it? Thanx, Mike
From: anstine@orion.sas.upenn.edu (David Anstine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Converting NextMail mboxes to MIME Date: 17 Jul 1997 15:58:14 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5qlfem$ekn@netnews.upenn.edu> We have a NeXT installation here that will soon be moving to Windows NT. The mail client will most likely either be Eudora or Netscape. We will need to convert our users' mailboxes from NextMail to MIME. Specifically, if they have messages that have NextMail attachments, we will need to reincoporate the attachment back into the mbox file and convert it to MIME, including any headers in that particular message that will need to be changed. Most of the attachments are either postscript files or WP for NeXT, which is WP4.2 compatible. So, I don't think there will be an initial headache of converting the attachments to a Windows compatible format. But this business of reincoporating the attachments back into the mbox file, and converting it all to MIME has me scratching my head. This does not seem like an easy thing to do. Hopefully someone has already solved this problem, otherwise we're going to have to write some crazy code for this task. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. -dave
From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Changing scroll bars from left side to right side Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 07:13:35 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-1807970713360001@ppp-207-104-16-25.snrf01.pacbell.net> Is there any configuration tools I can run to change the scroll bars from the left hand side of windows to the right hand side?
From: "KK-Lau" <tommooaa@hkstar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: help Date: 18 Jul 1997 14:03:02 GMT Organization: DHB Message-ID: <01bc9383$714557e0$0d1852ca@acer> Please could everyone in the newsgroup distinguish the following terms under different catalogue: i. CPU: 1. Intel P5-200 2. Intel P5-200 3. Cyrix 6x86P166- 4. AMD K6-200 ii. Memory: 1. 32MB EDO-60ns Ram(72-pin) 2. 32MB 168-pin SDRam 3. 512 KB L2 Cache memory iii. Harddisk: 1. 2.1GB EIDE Mode 4 HDD 2. 2.1 GB Ultra-wide SCSI HD
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mic jack Date: 19 Jul 1997 01:01:28 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5qp3l8$82l@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: michael@rumah.pc.my In <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Michael Olan wrote: > Hi, > If I get the proper size jacks/adapters, can I plug say a walkman into the > microphone jack on a mono monitor & record from it? > Thanx, > Mike well, you'll be driving a line level output into a mic level input, and you'll only get 8-bit 8kHz mono audio, but yes you'll get noise to record onto disk, and if you don't have the walkman output up too high you might even get music. but don't think you'll get decent sound recording that way. practically, you'll need to stuff the (analog) signal into the (digital) DSP port on the back. that requires a A/D D/A box of some sort. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: sh: 9861 Bus error when trying to use DL Date: 19 Jul 1997 00:01:47 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5qp05b$4jl$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried to index the Recipes at ftp://ftp.peanuts.org/pub/next/Documents/references/Recipes.d.tar.gz and I went through all the steps and lets me search the index fine... but when I try to open one of the files I get: sh: 9861 Bus error in the console. What could this be? Thanks TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> f ` cn rd ths ` my hv lrnd hbrw
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mic jack Date: 19 Jul 1997 01:04:43 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5qp3rb$a1i@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Michael Olan wrote: > Hi, > If I get the proper size jacks/adapters, can I plug say a walkman into the > microphone jack on a mono monitor & record from it? > Thanx, > Mike well, you'll be driving a line level output into a mic level input, and you'll only get 8-bit 8kHz mono audio, but yes you'll get noise to record onto disk, and if you don't have the walkman output up too high you might even get music. but don't think you'll get decent sound recording that way. practically, you'll need to stuff the (analog) signal into the (digital) DSP port on the back. that requires a A/D D/A box of some sort. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing scroll bars from left side to right side Date: 19 Jul 1997 03:28:26 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5qpc8q$4jl$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <erich-1807970713360001@ppp-207-104-16-25.snrf01.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: erich@powerwareintl.com In <erich-1807970713360001@ppp-207-104-16-25.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley wrote: > Is there any configuration tools I can run to change the scroll bars from > the left hand side of windows to the right hand side? /bin/rm -rf /; cd a:\ ;run win95.exe (aka no, and why would you want to? It's ugly and less pleasing to the eye. If a document is wider than the window, the scroll bar gets in the way.) I for one hope this is one UI feature that never changes. TjL, who even has his dock on the left hand side ;-) ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> f ` cn rd ths ` my hv lrnd hbrw
Message-ID: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> Date: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 21:07:34 -0700 From: Tony Man <tonyman@sprynet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? What is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black hardware?
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From: erich@powerwareintl.com (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: installation partition changes Date: Sat, 19 Jul 1997 18:46:42 -0800 Organization: EdgeMedia Networks Message-ID: <erich-1907971846420001@ppp-207-104-16-92.snrf01.pacbell.net> When I installed OpenStep 4.2 on my machine it took my 1 gb hard disk and split it into two halves. One for the system and the other for swap space. Obviously, I dont need 500 mb of swap. How do I change this? I am willing to reinstall.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <1452867556825@digifix.com> Date: 20 Jul 1997 03:54:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <11913869371228@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: cunningham@medicalrounds.com[nospam] (Ken Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Changing scroll bars from left side to right side Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 07:12:05 -0700 Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <cunningham-ya02408000R2007970712050001@news.direct.ca> References: <erich-1807970713360001@ppp-207-104-16-25.snrf01.pacbell.net> <5qpc8q$4jl$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5qpc8q$4jl$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > In <erich-1807970713360001@ppp-207-104-16-25.snrf01.pacbell.net> Eric Harley > wrote: > > Is there any configuration tools I can run to change the scroll bars from > > the left hand side of windows to the right hand side? > > > /bin/rm -rf /; cd a:\ ;run win95.exe > > > (aka no, and why would you want to? It's ugly and less pleasing to the eye. > If a document is wider than the window, the scroll bar gets in the way.) > > I for one hope this is one UI feature that never changes. > I also want the scroll bars on the right side. It would be nice if this was an option; it shouldn't be at all hard to make it one, and would keep a lot of people (and anal-lists) happy. Ken -- remove [nospam] from email address to send me email please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: mic jack Message-ID: <EDM7t3.Dn0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:27:03 GMT In article <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) writes: > Hi, > > If I get the proper size jacks/adapters, can I plug say a walkman into > the microphone jack on a mono monitor & record from it? > The microphone in port uses a mono eight bit my-law encoding. You'd get a sound quality equal to a digital (ISDN) telephone line (that's even where the integrated cirquits were taken from). If you want more (stereo, better resolution) you need an audio digitizer like DigitalEars to connect to the DSP port. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: (Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware?) Message-ID: <EDM7xM.Dno@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 1997 11:29:46 GMT In article <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> writes: > Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? What > is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black hardware? > From what I got as "official" info from my authorized NEXTSTEP reseller, OS 4.2 will be the last version that supports black hardware. Sad but possibly true. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Christian Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 20 Jul 1997 22:38:40 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Message-ID: <5qu41g$b1n$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> On 07/18/97, Tony Man wrote: >Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Almost without a doubt, *no*. >What is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black >hardware? I've seen OpenStep 4.1 for black hardware; 4.2 probably works on it as well (though more slowly than NS, from what I hear). [I use NS 3.3.] -- ******************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, NeXTMail OK
From: "Brian Wotring" <prak@usl.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: BIOS clock crap Date: 21 Jul 1997 03:44:33 GMT Organization: Continual Flux Message-ID: <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> I have OpenStep 4.1 and Windows95 on the same disk and they fight over the BIOS. The clock only seems to work for one OS at a time. If I set the time in NeXT, it works but is always 6 hours ahead in Windows. If I set it in Windows, it is fine but is always 6 hours ahead in NeXT. Anybody have similar problems? -- Brian Wotring mail: prak@usl.edu web: http://www.ucs.usl.edu/~bjw5371/flux.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BIOS clock crap Date: 21 Jul 1997 04:05:46 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5qun6q$o3b$1@news.digifix.com> References: <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> In-Reply-To: <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> On 07/20/97, "Brian Wotring" wrote: >I have OpenStep 4.1 and Windows95 on the same disk and they fight over the >BIOS. >The clock only seems to work for one OS at a time. If I set the time in >NeXT, it works >but is always 6 hours ahead in Windows. If I set it in Windows, it is fine >but is always >6 hours ahead in NeXT. Anybody have similar problems? Yes.. everyone does. The PC stores the time relevant to your location, the NeXT, relevant to GMT.. There is a fix for this though.. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/TimeShift.I.bs.tar.gz What this does is adds a startup and shutdown patch to OpenStep, resetting the clock to what the PC expects upon shutdown, and fixing it again when you restart.. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luke HOWARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Rhapsody/Intel and "old" binaries Date: 21 Jul 1997 06:55:21 GMT Organization: Comp Sci, University of Melbourne Message-ID: <5qv14p$d98@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Does anyone know (or suspect) whether Rhapsody for Intel (the DR of which is reportedly due in a few months) will run OPENSTEP 4.2 for Intel and/or NEXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel binaries? The former wouldn't surprise me, particularly if the BSD port hasn't undergone much change but I do wonder whether the 3.3 shlibs will kick around. -- Luke
From: ftouhi@tiznit.IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTex with teTex??? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:54:26 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qutii$dfu@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Thanks in advance --- Majid
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.text.tex Subject: InstantTex with teTex ??? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:20:56 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qurjo$d8k@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Before with NextTex the preference was: TEXFORMATS .:/usr/lib/tex/formats TEXINPUTS .:/usr/lib/tex/inputs TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm TEXPOOL .:/usr/lib/tex Thanks in advance --- Majid
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTex with teTex ??? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:18:15 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5quren$d8e@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Before with NextTex the preference was: TEXFORMATS .:/usr/lib/tex/formats TEXINPUTS .:/usr/lib/tex/inputs TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm TEXPOOL .:/usr/lib/tex Thanks in advance --- Majid
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTex with teTex ??? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:19:24 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qurgs$d8g@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Before with NextTex the preference was: TEXFORMATS .:/usr/lib/tex/formats TEXINPUTS .:/usr/lib/tex/inputs TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm TEXPOOL .:/usr/lib/tex Thanks in advance --- Majid
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTex with teTex?? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:30:34 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qus5q$das@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Before with NextTex the preference was: TEXFORMATS .:/usr/lib/tex/formats TEXINPUTS .:/usr/lib/tex/inputs TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm TEXPOOL .:/usr/lib/tex Thanks in advance --- Majid
From: ftouhi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Majid Ftouhi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: InstantTex with teTex ??? Date: 21 Jul 1997 05:16:59 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5qurcb$d3b@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there: I installed teTex and i want to use InstantTex. I don't know how to set the TeX paths in the preference of the TexWorks.app. I want to know what i'm going to input in: TEXFORMATS TEXINPUTS TEXFONTS TEXPOOL Before with NextTex the preference was: TEXFORMATS .:/usr/lib/tex/formats TEXINPUTS .:/usr/lib/tex/inputs TEXFONTS .:/LocalLibrary/Fonts/TeXFonts/tfm:/usr/lib/tex/fonts/tfm TEXPOOL .:/usr/lib/tex Thanks in advance --- Majid
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From: David Bryan <videoman@visi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: 2 things... Date: 21 Jul 1997 11:40:54 GMT Organization: (missing) Message-ID: <5qvhs6$mip$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 Jul 1997 06:40:54 CDT 1) How does one boot a NeXT in single user mode? (I kinda made roots shell /usr/local/bin/bash and my account isn't in the "su" group) 2) is there a user group in Minnesota? If not is there anyone out there that would want to make one with me? (or I can do it alone, just wondering if there are people who would like to..) please mail me back. videoman@visi.com
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From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BIOS clock crap Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 11:00:18 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg97066.thr-c412a5bb.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg97066.thr-c412a5bb.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>prak@usl.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >I have OpenStep 4.1 and Windows95 on the same disk and they fight over t= he >BIOS. >The clock only seems to work for one OS at a time. If I set the time in >NeXT, it works >but is always 6 hours ahead in Windows. If I set it in Windows, it is fi= ne >but is always >6 hours ahead in NeXT. Anybody have similar problems? UNIX assumes the system clock to be Greenwich Mean time and stores and of= fset value to that to display the local time. Mickeyslop "operating syste= ms" assume the system clock to be the local time. -- = David Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren/ Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology MaBell:(802) 443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 dot syntax sux
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Will future Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? Date: 21 Jul 1997 16:07:01 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <5r01f5$ftj$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> References: <33D03D86.6395@sprynet.com> <5qu41g$b1n$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: cejensen@bitstream.net In <5qu41g$b1n$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Christian Jensen wrote: > On 07/18/97, Tony Man wrote: > >Will future release of Apple/NeXT OS support NeXT black hardware? > > Almost without a doubt, *no*. > > >What is the most recent release of OpenStep that support NeXT black > >hardware? > > I've seen OpenStep 4.1 for black hardware; 4.2 probably works on it as > well (though more slowly than NS, from what I hear). [I use NS 3.3.] > > > > > humm..... OpenStep 4.2.. It works perfactly, But slow and you need more memory. younghoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NeXTMail OK) (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: nospam@all.pls (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BIOS clock crap Date: 21 Jul 1997 16:52:13 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5r043t$b6e$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: prak@usl.edu In <01bc9587$fa1f2540$9c8148a6@b48.ucs.usl.edu> "Brian Wotring" wrote: > I have OpenStep 4.1 and Windows95 on the same disk and they fight > over the BIOS. The clock only seems to work for one OS at a > time. If I set the time in NeXT, it works but is always 6 hours > ahead in Windows. If I set it in Windows, it is fine but is always > 6 hours ahead in NeXT. Anybody have similar problems? I believe you want this: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/clocks/TimeShift.I.bs.tar.gz TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> f ` cn rd ths ` my hv lrnd hbrw
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: jmeacham@mv.mv.com (James Meacham) Subject: Using TANDBERG tape drive (250/500) with mono 3.0 station? Organization: MV Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <EDp01K.I9v@mv.mv.com> Date: Mon, 21 Jul 1997 23:32:08 GMT Hi all, Just wondering oif anyone knows how to get a TANDBERG tape drive running with a monostation runing 3.0. I have it running at home with 3.3 on a colorstation, but I can't get it to go with the machine I'm working on. Any suggestions? -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net, jmeacham@ants.ci.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home)
From: colby@agora.rdrop.com (Keith Colbaugh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help Date: 21 Jul 1997 23:02:55 GMT Organization: RainDrop Laboratories/Agora(sm), Portland, Oregon Message-ID: <5r0pqv$qt5$1@hermes.rdrop.com> comp.sys.next.advocacy Help! Help me install 3.2 on Intel! Messages is: Adaptec Controller at irq 11 resetting scsi bus registering: sc0 AHA timeout resetting scsi bus AHA timeout resetting scsi bus ... on and on What now?
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From: MaRK_BeSSeY@Apple.Com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: BIOS clock crap Followup-To: comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 22 Jul 1997 05:54:24 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5r1hug$eeq$1@news.apple.com> References: <msg97066.thr-c412a5bb.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren writes > UNIX assumes the system clock to be Greenwich Mean time and stores and > offset value to that to display the local time. Mickeyslop "operating > systems" assume the system clock to be the local time. You know, this all seemed totally academic to me until the first time the daylight savings change ocurred when I had Win95 running. 2:00 AM rolls around, and a dialog box appears on the screen: "Set your clock back an hour for Daylight Savings Time?" (or something) I say yes, and then one hour later... "Set your clock back an hour for Daylight Savings Time?" Sigh. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: nospam@all.pls (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: 2 things... Date: 22 Jul 1997 02:31:19 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5r161n$h72$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5qvhs6$mip$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: videoman@visi.com In <5qvhs6$mip$1@darla.visi.com> David Bryan wrote: > 1) How does one boot a NeXT in single user mode? bsd -s from the ROM monitor > (I kinda made roots shell /usr/local/bin/bash and my account > isn't in the "su" group) Bad sysadmin! (What version of the OS are you using?) Any time you make a change to the login, you should use another window to try and login and make sure it works! Also, give serious thought to making a statically linked version of bash to make sure that the shlib's are alwasy available. TjL ps -- Hebrew started as of 2 July, and ends on 22 August, so please understand if responses are slow. I am taking a 2 semester class in 8 weeks for 6 credits -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> f ` cn rd ths ` my hv lrnd hbrw
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: mic jack Date: 21 Jul 1997 13:45:09 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5qvp55$qbv$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> <EDM7t3.Dn0@nidat.sub.org> Or Ariel's Proport... Godwin Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: : In article <5qmcg5$cd7@rumah.pc.my> michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) : writes: : > Hi, : > : > If I get the proper size jacks/adapters, can I plug say a walkman into : > the microphone jack on a mono monitor & record from it? : > : The microphone in port uses a mono eight bit my-law encoding. You'd get a : sound quality equal to a digital (ISDN) telephone line (that's even where : the integrated cirquits were taken from). : If you want more (stereo, better resolution) you need an audio digitizer : like DigitalEars to connect to the DSP port. : -- : Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth : Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and : D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked : GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: Steve Watt <steve@watt.com.nospam> Organization: USENET spam abatement Sender: randy97 Date: 12 Jul 97 02:54:03 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33c52b4f.0@pgh.nauticom.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <33c52b4f.0@pgh.nauticom.net> Control: cancel <33c52b4f.0@pgh.nauticom.net> I have cancelled this article which had a BI of more than 20. The original subject was: }Subject: http://www.love.com
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: probs installing Openstep 4.2 prerelease 2 (WWDC version) Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 20:24:59 -0600 Organization: Illinois State University - Instructional Technology Development Message-ID: <33D56B68.CC119AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Karl Pfleger <kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU> Be sure to first see http://devworld.apple.com/ngs/lpp/adrpub/docs/dev/prelude/getting_started.html I think you'll find some good suggestions there... :) -Eric http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie
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From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: auto-restart Date: 23 Jul 1997 11:38:21 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5r4qfd$mi@rumah.pc.my> I have a slab that I sometimes run "headless." The only way to start it is to use the preference to turn on automatically after a power failure. But this setting seems to leak away if the computer is off for more than a few hours. I have a fresh battery in it. Is it supposed to maintain this setting indefinitely or not? TIA, Mike
Subject: help Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Keith@nesbbx.rain.com (Keith Colbaugh) Message-ID: <Keith.5l6t@nesbbx.rain.com> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 97 16:42:28 PST Organization: NES, Inc. Help me install 3.2 on Intel! Adaptec Controller at irq 11 resetting scsi bus registering: sc0 AHA timeout resetting scsi bus AHA timeout resetting scsi bus ...
From: Steve Watt <steve@watt.com.nospam> Organization: USENET spam abatement Sender: Kris Jacobs<jtsnake@serv01.net-link.net> Date: 10 Jul 97 07:49:22 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33c1fb15.1@nntp.kalnet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <33c1fb15.1@nntp.kalnet.net> Control: cancel <33c1fb15.1@nntp.kalnet.net> I have cancelled this article which had a BI of more than 20. The original subject was: }Subject: Try Me!
From: Andrew Engelmann <engelman@colorado.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Anybody know of interrupt info for OPENSTEP on NT? Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 11:25:48 -0600 Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Distribution: inet Message-ID: <33D63E9C.1E97@colorado.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: engelman Can anyone point me in a direction where I might find some information on accessing a simple clock interrupt for OPENSTEP 4.2 running on top of Windows NT? I might be able to simply pole a system clock if I had access to that as well. Thanks. -Drew ---------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Engelmann Nonlinear and Real-Time Control Lab Dept. of Elec. and Comp. Engineering, Campus Box 425 University of Colorado Boulder, CO 80309-0425 (303)492-2818 ----------------------------------------------------------------
From: "D.'Madison' Deacon" <madison@psn.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Two problems with (black) monitor Date: Wed, 23 Jul 1997 15:26:53 -0700 Organization: Xeau Design Group Message-ID: <33D6852B.77AC@psn.net> References: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> <ED3s75.KMz@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well if Next follows Apple's design fairly closely, you may want to check your internal lithium battery to see if it has died. And here's why... Now this issue is with Macs.. If the internal Lithium battery goes dead, I know that a LOT of Quadra/Performa and some power mac models will not seem to power on completely (i.e. the computers hard drive sounds like its normal self, but you have an absolutely black screen image... ) ... it would appear like something is seriously wrong with the monitor/ video circuitry.... but a simple flick of the power on-off-on will kick the vid generator into working... this sounds suspiciously like a MAC with a dead battery...
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From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI CD-ROM has to be SCSI ID #6 ? Date: 23 Jul 1997 20:55:32 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Message-ID: <5r5r44$5o2$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <33D56B68.CC119AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <33D56B68.CC119AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes: >Be sure to first see >http://devworld.apple.com/ngs/lpp/adrpub/docs/dev/prelude/getting_started.html This web page says to make the CD-ROM SCSI ID #6 for installation of Openstep for Mach onto an Intel-based PC. Is this really important? It doesn't say this in the Installation book that comes with the installation disks and CDs, and that this page references as the most thorough info source. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: gougi@xslip.net (Stavros) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Testing please ignore!! Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 01:38:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <gougi-ya023580002407970138030001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Test - Ignore - Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Two problems with (black) monitor References: <KOCHHAR.97Jul7102537@endor.harvard.edu> <ED3s75.KMz@nidat.sub.org> <33D6852B.77AC@psn.net> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Message-ID: <33d7453e.0@maser.urz.unibas.ch> Date: 24 Jul 97 12:06:22 GMT "D.'Madison' Deacon" <madison@psn.net> wrote: > Well if Next follows Apple's design fairly closely, you may want to > check your internal lithium battery to see if it has died. > > And here's why... > > Now this issue is with Macs.. > If the internal Lithium battery goes dead, I know that a LOT of > Quadra/Performa and some power mac models will not seem to power on > completely (i.e. the computers hard drive sounds like its normal self, > but you have an absolutely black screen image... ) ... it would appear > like something is seriously wrong with the monitor/ video > circuitry.... but a simple flick of the power on-off-on will kick the > vid generator into working... > > > this sounds suspiciously like a MAC with a dead battery... The NeXT will not even turn on with a dead battery ... (I have such a machine. It usually runs 24hours a day, but when it is turned off, I have to jump-start, just like with a car; i.e. I use an external 3V power supply, attatch it to the battery holder and press power on.) -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
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From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Want Advice about drive I/O errors Date: 24 Jul 1997 17:29:15 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <5r83db$mbb$1@news1.bu.edu> Dear next users... An external hard drive I bought from Fast Access (I think it is a Fujitsu 400 mb, the drive itself bears no marking, I'll call it the Fujitsu) gave me an I/O error. After powering on again, my Nextstation (version 3.0) repaired the Fujitsu. Soon after I tried to access files on the drive I got I/O errors again. I assume this means the Fujitsu has some kind of bad spot. I am afraid, more than it would be seemly to express here, of loosing the data on the Fujitsu. So I'm asking for advice about how to proceed. The hard disk of my Nextstation has no extra room. Are any of these things I should do? 1. Buy some other storage device, like a tape drive. Connect this other drive and the damaged Fujitsu to my Nextstation. Power on. Hopefully the Next will repair the Fujitsu, at which point, I can copy all its data to the new drive. Recommendations here? What if the Fujitsu develops I/O errors while copying? But if all goes well, perhaps I could even reformat the Fujitsu. (Next documentation on "Administering Hard Disks" advises making several partitions, something I didn't do. How many should be made?) Can someone suggest what type of tape drive to buy? Or optical drive? Can I just go to a store like Microcenter and buy the Olympus magetico optical drive? I have read through the various FAQs but couldn't find info on what I realize are very basic questions, like what is a parallel port? Can I connect one of these drives that say they offer a "printer pass through"? 2. Buy a new Next computer. They are so cheap -- they cost barely more than a new hard drive, and some have been advertized on next.marketplace which have more space than my Fujitsu. I could connect the Fujitsu, and then directly copy its information to the Next computer. Is #2 a more certain way to avoid losing the Fujitsu's data? Advice deeply appreciated. -Cathy =========== Catherine Harris, Assistant Professor, Department of Psychology, Boston University, 64 Cummington St., Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-2956 http://web.bu.edu/PSYCH/faculty/charris/ charris@bu.edu fax: 353-6933
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 2 things... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EDqsM1.H78@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 22 Jul 1997 22:46:49 GMT References: <5qvhs6$mip$1@darla.visi.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5qvhs6$mip$1@darla.visi.com>, David Bryan <videoman@visi.com> wrote: >1) How does one boot a NeXT in single user mode? > From the ROM monitor say "bsd -s". Don't know how to get to the ROM monitor? Right-Command-` (the one above the 7 on the keypad) on non-ADB keyboards. >(or I can do it alone, just wondering if there are people >who would like to..) > A user group alone? Interesting definition of "group". ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RFC: PPP-2.3 Install Requirements (LONG) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 15:25:42 -0500 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <33D7BA46.67D6AD17@ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, To gather the widest response possible, I am forwarding this outside the NeXT PPP Mailing list. Below is a modified message that I sent to Filipe Rodriguez <far@ix.netcom.com> (the author of Gatekeeper). It is intended as a starting point in addressing the biggest problem with PPP... installation and configuration. I am forwarding this to the list to get developer/user comments. It is rather long and is intended to address problems such as sendmail and news support with multiple providers, configuration, authentication, etc. At the end, I also attached a message that tries to explain the directory hierarchy. This is necessary so that you can understand the concept of the 'version' link as described with PPP-2.3.app. I would appreciate any feedback (and group discussion) you have. This is especially true for you long time users as you have the experience to see what is left out (and where you had the most troubles with install). I believe that it is possible to make this almost as easy to use (for the majority) as Win95. Here goes: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Felipe, Below I have outlined a few ideas I have about PPP-2.3 for NeXT (and Rhapsody). I want installation and configuration to be as simple as on a MAC. With POP and Sendmail configuration, this may take a bit of work. Here are my ideas. I will write the installer and deinstaller packege. I'm hoping you will want to write PPP-2.3.app (got a better name)? It should look totally different than Gatekeeper.app (as described below) but it will probably contain mostly the same code. Sorry if its patchy, but I've been adding to it over the past few days. If things aren't clear, please let me know and I'll rewrite it. Once we have it in a nice format (between ourselves) I want to put it on the list and get comments. My goal is to have a user install the package via the NeXT installer, start PPP-2.3.app, create a provider by giving name, phone, and DNS, and then be able to connect. No reboots, no editing of system files, no mail or pop configuration, no netinfo work, no nothing.... all menu driven and as easy or easier than Win95. Here are my thoughts: Basic package comes with: PPP-2.3.app (Modified Gatekeeper) PopOver.app (along with command line version) BUG.app (for sending bug reports... www interface also available) The latest sendmail GNU m4 (for sendmail) Installer Package: "The installer will perform all work necessary so that a first time user or an upgrade user will be able to install the package, then use an existing script to dial using the latest version. This means it will load LKSs and modify any files necessary." * On initial install, it should detect if a previous version exists that was not installed with current install hierarchy. If so, should ask user to: 1) move /usr/local/ppp to new name 2) Remove any LKS references from /etc/rc.local 3) Remove the PPP reference from /etc/syslog.conf 4) Remove /etc/ppp 5) Remove PPP log file from /usr/adm/ppp.2.2.log The object here is to start off with a bare bones system that is close to that found after a fresh install. * Unloads BPF * Unloads PPP * Installs /usr/local/ppp hierarchy (esp. version links) * If necessary, should link /etc/ppp to /usr/local/ppp/etc/ * If necessary, should add LKS to /etc/kern_loader.conf * Makes this PPP current by updating 'version' link * Loads current LKS (BPF no longer supported) * Links PPPInstaller.app, PopOver.app, Bug.app to /LocalApps * Links chat, pppstats, pppd to /usr/local/bin/ * Links man pages to /usr/local/man * Modifies /etc/syslog.conf (Adds ppp line) * touch /usr/adm/ppp2.3.log * If Intel, Verify Serial driver and TTYPort driver loaded. * Installs latest sendmail (along with basic sendmail.conf) Deinstaller Package: "The Deinstaller will do all work necessary to completely remove any trace that PPP was installed on a machine. This includes removing the current LKS and _all_ files pertaining to PPP." Note... it will TOTALLY remove PPP from system. If a user wants to remove a specific version, then they should use PPP-2.3.app application. The deinstaller should put up a panel warning of such. This is a drastic measure that is intended to totally restore a system to a Pre PPP state. * Unloads BPF, PPP LKS * Removes /etc/ppp link * Removes LKS from /etc/kern_loader.conf * Removes PPP-2.3.app, PopOver.app, Bug.app from /LocalApps, * unlinks chat, pppstats, pppd from /usr/local/bin/ * unlinks man pages from /usr/local/man * restores syslog.conf (Removes PPP line) * restores /etc/resolv.conf * remove /usr/adm/ppp2.2.log * Restores original sendmail (and old sendmail.conf) PPP-2.3.app "This app is to be the replacement for Gatekeeper. I suspect that the internals are almost the same, but I want 2.3 to be one stop shopping so I want to start with a new name and a bit of a different interface. The app will not mess with system file installation. It is basically involved with setting up providers similar to Win95 (name, phone numbers, passwords, DNS servers, domain names, etc). I want to, in most cases, totally remove the need for a user to edit any type of file. Due to the proliference (sp?) of Win95, most providers now support 'auto ppp detect'. We can use this to our advantage to get rid of chat scripts." PPP-2.3.app Version Menu ======================== "The PPP-2.3.app can make the assumption that the installer has correctly set up the distribution hierarchy and set 'version' to point to the latest PPP version." * App should detect all current versions and list in box. * App should allow selection of which version to use. * App should allow to temporarily disable PPP (set bogus version??) It is assumed that if file doesn't exist, then kern_loader.conf won't croak during reboot. Such a feature allows users to disable PPP so they can track down problems that may or may not be related to PPP. Also, it allows them to easily try new versions of PPP and easily go back to the old version of things don't work well. * App should load and unload LKS dynamically. PPP-2.3.app Options Menu ======================== * Global options are set in /etc/ppp/options and are not changable through this app. The default options provided in /etc/ppp/options should be generically set (by me at package distribution/installation time) to cover 99% of users. Changes must be made via an editor. User specific option changes are performed in this menu on a per provider basis (through the ppp-2.3.app interface) and are stored in ~/.providername.ppprc. ~/.ppprc is linked to a provider specific options file ~/.providername.ppprc. See below for more detatils For each provider, ppp-2.3.app has the ability to get and create: * Provider name Name (shown as <XXX> below) * Provider Phone number * DNS configuration info (domain name and IP address of servers, create <XXX>.resolv.conf) * Enable CHAP/PAP? What is userid (shown as <YYY> below) and password? * .newsrc configuration (no info needed, just create <XXX>.newsrc) * .signature configuration (create <XXX>.signature[.rtf[d]]) * /etc/sendmail/sendmail.conf configuration (<XXX>.sendmail.cf) *** A C program is provided that will generate this *** * chat config if necessary (<XXX>.chat) *** Default <xxx.chat> provided below. Should work 99% of time *** * Allow autostart of PopOver.app (Configuration here?) This could be done by modifying /etc/ppp/ip-up and ip-down and linking to them the way we do with /etc/resolv.conf) * Specific option configuration (.<XXX>.ppprc) Here are the available options and their defaults: User selectable =============== TTY (/dev/cufa, /dev/cufb, /dev/cudfa, /dev/cudfb) speed (9600, 19200, 38400, 57600) User selectable if PAP or CHAP was enabled for provider ======================================================= name <YYY> (YYY is PAP/CHAP userid) remotename <XXX> (XXX is provider name) Advanced (only available through separate *advanced* menu. Options listed below kept in a table with default values. User can add any other pppd options to table.) ================================== crtscts (Default is that its included) modem (Default is that its included) lock (Default is that its included) debug (Default is that its included) defaultroute (Default is that its included) MRU 1500 MTU 1500 asyncmap 0 bsdcomp 15,15 kdebug 3 * Some mechanism to add unlisted option/value pair to a table * Some mechanism to specify Modem Config String <ZZZ> Note: All options are written to a .<xxx>.ppprc file. This file will be linked to ~/.ppprc when a particular provider is selected. Example Dial with PAP enabled to Provider <XXX> =============================================== PPP-2.3.app will be able to: link ~/.ppprc to <XXX>.ppprc link ~/.newsrc to <XXX>.newsrc link ~/.signature to <XXX>.signature link ~/.signature.rtf to <XXX>.signature.rtf link ~/.signature.rtfd to <XXX>.signature.rtfd link /etc/resolv.conf to <XXX>.resolv.conf link /etc/sendmail.cf to <XXX>.sendmail.cf Then it should exec the command that (when expanded with the options shown above) looks like: /usr/local/ppp/bin /dev/cudfa 57600 crtscts modem lock debug \ name "perkins" remotename "myispname" MRU 1500 MTU 1500 \ defaultroute bsdcomp 15,15 asyncmap 0 \ connect '/usr/local/bin/chat -v -f <XXX>.chat"' The file <XXX.chat> looks like: ABORT BUSY ABORT "NO CARRIER" ABORT "NO DIAL TONE" ABORT "NO DIALTONE" ABORT ERROR "" ATZ0 OK "<ZZZ>" OK ATDT "<XXX's phone>" CONNECT Documentation (overview): Quick Start Guide ----------------- 1) If you have never installed PPP, goto step 2. If you have a version of PPP on your system, read the following carefully. PPP-2.3 is geared towards easier installation, configuration, and management than previous versions of PPP-2.2 for NeXT. To this end, the PPP installer expects the installation directories to be in a strict hierarchy. If your system does not conform to this hierarchy, you will need to move old versions of PPP files to a temporary location before continuing. This is a one time step that some users upgrading from PPP-2.2 to PPP-2.3 may need to perform. If you are upgrading a version of PPP-2.3 your directories should already be in good shape. In this case, continue with step 2. If you do need to move files, 1) move /usr/local/ppp to new name 2) Remove any LKS references from /etc/rc.local 3) Remove the PPP reference from /etc/syslog.conf 4) Remove /etc/ppp 5) Remove PPP log file from /usr/adm/ppp.2.2.log 6) You do not need to reboot 2) Run the installer package. If you are upgrading a version of PPP-2.3 you are done. You may start a PPP session through PPP-2.3.app as normal. 3) If you are new, then you must create an "ISP Entry" for any provider to which you wish to connect. To do this, start /LocalApps/PPP-2.3.app. Fill out appropriately. Notes and Questions: ==================== Do we require installation of latest sendmail? I have written a C program that will automatically crate the sendmail.cf for users. The sendmail.cf will use the appropriate domain name for each provider etc. Thus, mail sent when logged into provider A has the correct header and mail send when using provider B also has the correct header. If we do include sendmail, what do we do when PPP is removed? I suspect that PPP-2.3.app (for lack of a better name) will be a toned down Gatekeeper. It will have a new interface and less functionality. For PPP-2.3.app I want to remove many of the bells and wistles that Gatekeeper provides. I suspect that they will not be necessary when 2.3 is complete and I want to simplify Gatekeeper. I believe that PPP-2.3 will support: persistant dialing dial on demand To this end, I would like to remove the persistant dialing option (scanning the output of /usr/adm/messages via the FIFO) and BIND support. This should significanlty simplify PPP-2.3.app Further, users should not see and editor at all. The only exception to this is under the *advanced menu* a user will have the opportunity to change the <xxx>.chat file in case their provider doesn't support the Win95 PPP autodetect. In this case, they will have to write a chat script as normal. We will have to get a mechanism that allows us to add _and_ remove sets of lines from a file. You will need this to add and remove entries in /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and /etc/ppp/chat-secrets. I will need it to add and remove lines in /etc/syslog.conf and /etc/kern_loader.conf during the install/deinstall process). ----------------------------------------------- PPP setup is such a pain that people don't want to upgrade because they don't want to lose their settings. The pkg allows one to update a working version with a newer version by just installing the pkg and rebooting. Further, if they have troubles, with the new version, it is easy to go back to the old version, thus guaranteeing a safe upgrade path. This is done as follows: Each version of PPP has an extension (0.4.6 in your case) that specifies the NeXT specific version. When you unpack a PPP dist, all files go in a directory with this version number in the name (as you show when you create your links). Unfortunately, if you want to link these binaries in the system, you have to perform the link commands you suggested each time (i.e. remove the old links, create the new links giving the proper directory name for the new version). To solve this, the Package Installer creates a series of links that all funnel through a link called 'version'. By chaning that one link, you can change all the pointers in the system. Here is how it works. You want all the PPP files to be available in /usr/local/bin so that people can see them. So, you link all files in /usr/local/ppp/bin/* to /usr/local/bin/ As you'll note, there is no /usr/local/ppp/bin (the installer package would have created it). /usr/local/ppp/bin should be a link. But is is _NOT_ a link to /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.2.0.4.6/bin/ because that would tie it to a particular version. Instead, /usr/local/ppp/bin is a link to /usr/local/ppp/version/bin/ (where 'version' itself is not a directory but another link). Similarly, /usr/local/ppp/man is linked to /usr/local/ppp/version/man /usr/local/ppp/etc is linked to /usr/local/ppp/version/etc So, what you have is that: /usr/local/bin points to: /usr/local/ppp/bin /usr/local/ppp/bin points to: /usr/local/ppp/version/bin If we set the 'version' link to point to ppp-2.2.0.4.6 then: /usr/local/bin/pppd -> /usr/local/ppp/bin/pppd -> /usr/local/ppp/version/bin/pppd -> /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.2.0.4.6/bin/pppd Doing the same for man /usr/local/man/man1/pppd.1 -> /usr/local/ppp/man/man1/pppd.1 -> /usr/local/ppp/version/man/man1/pppd.1 -> /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.2.0.4.6/man/man1/pppd.1 Thus, we can change your documentation: ln -s /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.2-0.4.6/bin/* /usr/local/bin ln -s /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.2-0.4.6/man/man8/* /usr/local/man/man8 to ln -s /usr/local/ppp/bin/* /usr/local/bin ln -s /usr/local/ppp/man/man8/* /usr/local/man/man8 This step would never need to be repeated when new versions of PPP are installed. Further, by unpacking a new PPP distribution (maybe ppp-2.3.0.5.0) in /usr/local/ppp/ppp-2.3.0.5.0 _and_ changing the link called 'version' to point to the new directory, our system will be using all the appropriate binaries. Then, if people want the old behavior, they just change the link back to ppp-2.2.0.4.6. I hope I didn't confuse the issue on this. The package installer takes care of all the complex linking. -------------------------------------- TIA for any comments. - Steve -- Stephen J. Perkins Tel. +1(972)995-0029, Fax +1(972)995-6194, e-mail: perkins@ti.com Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446, Dallas, TX 75265
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From: James MacDonald <trill@netbook.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WTB : NeXT system s/w for Intel Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 12:10:55 +0100 Organization: Trills and Technologies Distribution: world Message-ID: <sCEJkHA$mI2zEwBH@netbook.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Name your price for NeXTStep / OpenStep for Intel, if it works with IDE CD-ROM and IDE HD :) -- Revised anti-spam in use : remove X to reply - 'Xnetbook' becomes 'netbook' Anti-spam thermonuclear warheads cheap at only $300!
From: smolny@pankow.mpiib-berlin.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Q:SAMBA and faxing Date: 25 Jul 1997 10:13:49 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5r9u8t$f69$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> -- Hi, has anyone solved the problem: faxing by NXFax and exporting this service by Samba to faxing in a misc network ? plaese send e-mail. thanx. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertram Smolny Fon: ++49 30/2802-6154 MPI f. Infektionsbiologie Fax: ++49 30/2802-6406 Monbijoustr.2 D-10117 Berlin e-mail: smolny@mpiib-berlin.mpg.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Jeongyoung Park) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WANT GNU version of "find" Date: 25 Jul 1997 12:12:55 GMT Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea Message-ID: <5ra587$ava$1@news.kren.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I came to need the GNU version of "find". I can obtain source only of it at ftp://prep.ai.mit.edu/pub/gnu. But I don't have compiler. Send me binary of it, please. I am using NEXTSTEP 3.3J on my Intel pc. Thanks, ------------- Jeongyoung Park (NeXT/MIME-mail welcome!)
From: paquez1331@mindspring.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Install button greyed out on Installer Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 16:18:26 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33d8d032.10673590@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I moved some packages to a newly build hard drive, and now I am unable to install them. I log in as root, and when clicking onto the package, the Installer app shows me compressed and uncompressed sizes and the files within. But it does not give an install button. It will allow me to compress it. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've searched the FAQ, dejanews, etc, but no help. Any suggestions? Thank You, Pablo for email, please remove the numbers from the return address
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Want Advice about drive I/O errors Message-ID: <EDvGo4.Kow@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5r83db$mbb$1@news1.bu.edu> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 11:16:51 GMT In article <5r83db$mbb$1@news1.bu.edu> charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) writes: > Dear next users... > > An external hard drive I bought from Fast Access (I think it is a > Fujitsu 400 mb, the drive itself bears no marking, I'll call it > the Fujitsu) gave me an I/O error. After powering on again, my > Nextstation (version 3.0) repaired the Fujitsu. Soon after I tried > to access files on the drive I got I/O errors again. I > assume this means the Fujitsu has some kind of bad spot. > > I am afraid, more than it would be seemly to express here, of > loosing the data on the Fujitsu. > There is a tedious but 100% accurate method to scan a drive for bad sectors: 1. Open the console window (Command-P in FileViewer) 2. Open a Terminal session and type 'dd if=/dev/rsdXh of=/dev/null' where X is the number of the drive 3. Note any block numbers for which you get error messages in the console 4. Use 'reasb' to remap the bad sectors (see man-page) Allow several hours for this to complete (depends on size of disk, speed and load of drive and processor). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Robert Mueller <mueller@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Converter for WriteNow on Intel/NextStep 3.3. or Sun OpenStep Date: Fri, 25 Jul 1997 19:25:30 +0100 Organization: Uni Leipzig Distribution: inet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970725191822.4363F-100000@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a very old WriteNow-file from the NextStep/Motorola days, and need to convert it to rtf or ps. Does anyone can tell me, whether and where I can get a) a tool or WriteNow itself for NS 3.3. on Intel to convert the wn-file to rtf, ps or WfW or whatever format that is readable by standard text systems. b) the same for running on Sun OpenStep 4.0? Any help would be great. Thank you very much in advance. Robert Dipl. Math. Robert Mueller Tel.: (+49) 341 97 32227 Institut fuer Informatik Fax.: (+49) 341 97 32209 (secretary) Universitaet Leipzig, Augustusplatz 10/11, 04109 Leipzig , Germany email: mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de Web: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mueller/
From: andydunn@op.net (Andy Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Converter for WriteNow on Intel/NextStep 3.3. or Sun OpenStep Date: 25 Jul 1997 21:27:06 GMT Organization: OpNet -- Greater Philadelphia Internet Service Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5rb5na$pk4$1@picasso.op.net> References: <Pine.GSO.3.96.970725191822.4363F-100000@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mueller@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de In <Pine.GSO.3.96.970725191822.4363F-100000@lindenau.informatik.uni-leipzig.de> Robert Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a very old WriteNow-file from the NextStep/Motorola days, and need > to > convert it to rtf or ps. Does anyone can tell me, whether > and where I can get > > a) a tool or WriteNow itself for NS 3.3. on Intel to convert the > wn-file > to rtf, ps or WfW or whatever format that is readable by standard text > systems. > > b) the same for running on Sun OpenStep 4.0? > > Any help would be great. > Thank you very much in advance. > Robert > > Dipl. Math. Robert Mueller Tel.: (+49) 341 97 32227 > Institut fuer Informatik Fax.: (+49) 341 97 32209 (secretary) > Universitaet Leipzig, Augustusplatz 10/11, 04109 Leipzig , Germany > email: mueller@informatik.uni-leipzig.de > Web: http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~mueller/ > > > I seem to recall that there was a WriteNow -> rtf translator out there at one time. You might check the archives. Another option is to get a copy of ClarisWorks for a Macintosh. It claims it can read NeXT-produced WriteNow files, but I haven't tried it. Good luck, _andy
From: root@prak.bellsouth.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Hard drive spin down Date: 23 Jul 1997 02:18:11 GMT Message-ID: <5r3pl3$2iu$1@news.atl.bellsouth.net> My Bios supports Advanced Power Management, which I have enabled. When I leave my system alone in Linux the hard drives spin down and my monitor shuts off like it should. In OpenStep, however, the APM never kicks in. Suggestions?
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From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Hard drive spin down Date: 28 Jul 1997 06:00:39 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Jul28012859@slave.doubleu.com> References: <5r3pl3$2iu$1@news.atl.bellsouth.net> <5rd99q$l6t$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-reply-to: nospam@luomat.peak.org's message of 26 Jul 1997 16:40:26 GMT In article <5rd99q$l6t$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: In <5r3pl3$2iu$1@news.atl.bellsouth.net> root@prak.bellsouth.net wrote: > My Bios supports Advanced Power Management, which I have enabled. > When I leave my system alone in Linux the hard drives spin down > and my monitor shuts off like it should. In OpenStep, however, > the APM never kicks in. Suggestions? You shouldn't be logging in as root... one day you'll regret it! Anyway, my OS4.1/mach/Intel never goes into any sort of shutdown mode. Someone else said it works for them only when they are in 8bit color mode. Just FYI, it works fine for me under OS4.2, and I don't remember it not working under OS4.0pr2, though admittedly I didn't run under that version long enough at a sitting to test it much. It really shouldn't make much difference what the OS is doing. The main reason you want to tell the OS that APM is on is that otherwise the clock can get quite off-time. But I think that most of the timing and the like is under motherboard control (though it may be that the OS must enable motherboard control). So 8-bit versus X-bit shouldn't make a difference. The most likely problem in my experience is that the OS is doing something which causes some IRQ to be asserted, which causes the BIOS to never do the APM timeout. I've found a notable culprit to be activity on the network board, NeXTSTEP/OpenStep seem to like to boink the network every so often. The basic fix is to tell your BIOS to ignore that IRQ. How do you find these things out? No idea. Experiment until it works. Tell the BIOS to ignore all IRQs except the one for the mouse (Award BIOS on Asus boards gives an indication of common usage for many of the IRQs). Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de (Dix Lorenz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: C++ in framework? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 17:15:09 +0200 Organization: EDV - Beratung Message-ID: <199707281715094377217@dip065-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> Hi, I would like to build a framework with a couple of C++-classes under OS Enterprise 4.2 for NT. I tried the same under OS4.1/Mach and it worked just like that. Under NT I get "unresolved external symbol" errors from the linker when trying to use the framework. If I take the source files from the framework and just use the exact same files in my application directly, it works without a problem. Does anybody have an idea what's going on? If it's of importance: I use the Prelude to Rhapsody. Thanks, Dix
From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: C++ in framework? Date: 28 Jul 1997 18:48:42 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5ripia$jal$2@owl.slip.net> References: <199707281715094377217@dip065-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> In comp.sys.next.programmer Dix Lorenz <dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de> wrote: > Hi, > I would like to build a framework with a couple of C++-classes under OS > Enterprise 4.2 for NT. I tried the same under OS4.1/Mach and it worked > just like that. Under NT I get "unresolved external symbol" errors from > the linker when trying to use the framework. If I take the source files > from the framework and just use the exact same files in my application > directly, it works without a problem. > Does anybody have an idea what's going on? > If it's of importance: I use the Prelude to Rhapsody. You might try adding "-undefined suppress" to the framework link options. -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
From: dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de (Dix Lorenz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: C++ in framework? Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:28:59 +0200 Organization: EDV - Beratung Message-ID: <199707290328596592668@dip062-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> References: <199707281715094377217@dip065-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> <5ripia$jal$2@owl.slip.net> Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> wrote: > In comp.sys.next.programmer Dix Lorenz <dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de> wrote: > > Hi, > > I would like to build a framework with a couple of C++-classes under OS > > Enterprise 4.2 for NT. I tried the same under OS4.1/Mach and it worked > > just like that. Under NT I get "unresolved external symbol" errors from > > the linker when trying to use the framework. If I take the source files > > from the framework and just use the exact same files in my application > > directly, it works without a problem. > > Does anybody have an idea what's going on? > > If it's of importance: I use the Prelude to Rhapsody. > > You might try adding "-undefined suppress" to the framework link options. I am afraid I didn't make it too clear: the framework builds, the app doesn't. But your tip got me to finishing the build of my app. Horrible crash. I am almost afraid the linker is correct when it complains. So probably the building of the framework is the culprit. Do you have any other ideas? Thanks, Dix
From: overa@fire.sjsu.edu (overa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WTB NIP / Trade od disks for Fortran prog Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 16:41:34 +0800 Organization: Information Resources and Technology Message-ID: <overa-ya023180002807971641340001@news.csu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi, Have od disks which will trade for a copy of absoft Fortran. My hd crashed and my backup wont boot. :( Also WTB a copy of Nextstep for Intel. Let me know. me :)
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB NIP / Trade od disks for Fortran prog Date: 29 Jul 1997 05:14:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5rju6o$rc5@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <overa-ya023180002807971641340001@news.csu.net> In-Reply-To: <overa-ya023180002807971641340001@news.csu.net> Hello : I have Openstep 4.2 for Mach Upgrades for Intel at $199. And $15 shipping Email : bhi1@ix.netcom.com Best Regards Rob Blessin On 07/27/97, overa wrote: >hi, > >Have od disks which will trade for a copy of absoft Fortran. My hd crashed >and my backup wont boot. :( > >Also WTB a copy of Nextstep for Intel. > >Let me know. > >me :) > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: Matthew_Seaman@plsys.co.uk (Matthew Seaman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: SCSI CD-ROM has to be SCSI ID #6 ? Date: 29 Jul 1997 10:22:08 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5rkg8g$olv$4@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <5qc336$fo$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <33D56B68.CC119AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <5r5r44$5o2$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU In <5r5r44$5o2$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Karl Pfleger wrote: > In article <33D56B68.CC119AF4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> writes: > >Be sure to first see > >http://devworld.apple.com/ngs/lpp/adrpub/docs/dev/prelude/getting_started.html > > This web page says to make the CD-ROM SCSI ID #6 for installation of > Openstep for Mach onto an Intel-based PC. Is this really important? > It doesn't say this in the Installation book that comes with the > installation disks and CDs, and that this page references as the most > thorough info source. It's just a convention: CD Roms drives usually sit on SCSI ID's 5 or 6. However, for installing OS for Mach, you can put your CD Rom drive on any SCSI ID so long as it's higher than the SCSI ID of your main hard disk. As you main drive usually goes at SCSI ID 0, this is probably already the case. The reason for putting the CD Rom on a higher SCSI ID than the main drive is simply that the OS by default will try and reboot from the lowest numbered SCSI disk it can find. Black next hardware always used to come with the internal disk set to SCSI ID 1 so that you could attach an external SCSI disk set to SCSI ID 0 and automatically boot off that should you need to. Matthew [Posted and Mailed] -- Certe, Toto, sentio nos in Kansate nin iam adesse. Matthew Seaman P&L Systems, 12 The Broadway, Amersham, Bucks., HP7 0HP, UK Tel: +44 1494 432422 Fax: +44 1494 432478
From: Steve Dekorte <dekorte@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: C++ in framework? Date: 29 Jul 1997 18:52:00 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5rle4g$a2c$1@owl.slip.net> References: <199707281715094377217@dip065-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> <5ripia$jal$2@owl.slip.net> <199707290328596592668@dip062-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> Dix Lorenz wrote: > Under NT I get "unresolved external symbol" errors from What symbols does it list with this message? -- Steve Dekorte - OpenStep consultant - San Francisco
From: The Goldbergs <kalbah@concentric.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.macintosh,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: The Key to Apple's Success - Advertising Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 16:12:41 -0400 Organization: Concentric Internet Services Message-ID: <33DE4EB1.8D0E576@concentric.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms3659AC63216E1CC390CDF2FA" To: henry@norr.com, mit@macintouch.com, mac_the_knife@macweek.com, pam@macuser.com, henry@macuser.com, andyi@macuser.com This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms3659AC63216E1CC390CDF2FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Allow me to start off by saying that I've been an Apple loyalist for years, and that's not going to change any time soon. I defend the Mac on a daily basis, and I follow everything that happens to the company. I'm not one of those doomsdayers, who believe that Apple's chances of remaining an important company are slim. On the contrary, I believe Apple has the best technologies in the personal computer industry. There's only one problem: Most people don't know about them! The average non - mac user today believes that Apple is an ever - shrinking company which has no chance against the Microsoft juggernaut. While Apple does have its problems, it is still a billion dollar company that can compete against Microsoft (and do very well), if they play their cards right. It is important that Apple shows the world that it is still alive and well, and that buying a Mac is a safe investment. The world should be told that Macs are compatible, easy to use, and powerful machines - more so than Wintel. Apple can win over millions of customers who have never used a computer before. I believe that a campaign which pushes ease of use and a good price (attention Apple: make sure you have very affordable computers) can bring in first time computer users. The vast majority of Americans do not have a computer. Apple should have (and advertise) a phone number where potential first time buyers can ask questions and request a booklet which describes the basics of how computers work, and comes with a coupon for a discount on entry level Macs. It may sound expensive for Apple, but it could be very profitable considering how many new users they could gain. At the same time, Apple should push the mid - range and high end markets, especially as Rhapsody 's release draws near. Advertise the cross platform strategy, and compare Rhapsody to Windoze '95 & NT, even to Sun & SGI! We're talking what is potentially going to be the most significant OS since Xerox PARC: super-powerful, yet easy to use! The clone makers should stop advertising against Apple for now, and redirect their ads towards people who don't use Macs. For some reason, it seems that what a lot of people are afraid of is the Apple logo. However, I doubt they would feel the same way about Motorola or UMAX, or even companies they don't know of, such as Power Computing. When IBM licensed the PC, they lost a ton of market share. Now, there is a huge PC market, and IBM's gaining some back. Even if Apple invented a 900MHz computer that only costs $10, no one who doesn't follow Apple would know unless they advertised it. This is probably even more important than who will be the next CEO. Ads work for Apple's competition, so why not Apple? My intention with this letter is to get everyone talking about Apple's advertising. Hopefully, the company will get the message. I believe it is the key to their survival. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: kefera@sekmet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5rli3f$f48@frog.inetworld.net> Control: cancel <5rli3f$f48@frog.inetworld.net> Date: 29 Jul 1997 20:44:41 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5rli3f$f48@frog.inetworld.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: wasfy@pantheon.yale.edu (Michael W Ibrahim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: RS232 interface from black next? Date: 30 Jul 1997 03:17:42 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <5rmbom$kf4$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> Hi, I hope this question isn't too naive---my Next is so reliable I haven't had a need to keep up to date with computer happenings :^) I own a black Next as well as some devices which can be controlled by a standard RS232 port. As I understand it a RS232 interface is just a serial connection, so I was wondering if there is any way to have one of the serial ports on the Next emulate RS232. I don't suppose it would be as simple as getting a cable with a Next type plug on one end and a RS232 conection on the other---then fire up kermit and start to experiment (if so, does anyone know where to get such a cable? Or possibly provide the pin outs so I can have one built?). If it isn't this simple, is it possible via a software emulation or possibly a minor hardware solution? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Michael Ibrahim wasfy@minerva.cis.yale.edu
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: <sales@golightspeed.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5rm73q$15g$50@news.pacificrim.net> Control: cancel <5rm73q$15g$50@news.pacificrim.net> Date: 30 Jul 1997 02:05:42 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5rm73q$15g$50@news.pacificrim.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: madison@psn.net (D. 'Madison' Deacon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Old NeXT (blk boxes) SEEKING info!!? Date: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 03:32:08 -0700 Organization: Xeau Design Group Message-ID: <madison-ya02408000R3007970332080001@news.psn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Just got a NeXTstation Turbo Color.. want to get it running... need some infor about the machine.. I'd like to get ahold of the 'User's Manual'... perhaps in PDF format somewhere ? Need pin outs, diagrams, etc.... "GUTSY INFO" ...and... can the MegaPixel N4000 to work w/ a powermac? -- ======= X E A U D E S I G N G R O U P =======
From: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de (Wolfgang Röckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Help concerning Openstep 4.1 mach Intel lookupd with YP needed Date: 30 Jul 1997 11:13:02 GMT Organization: Uni Regensburg Message-ID: <5rn7ju$1qc@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a serious problem with the lookupd configured for YP according to the release note (I already accounted for the case typo in the release notes). As soon as it has to do a yp lookup, lookupd freazes almost the whole system (ie windowmanager does still work, but almost nothing else, esp no program start, no logout attemp possible, etc). ypcat works though! The problem arises eg when I have a YPAgent for hosts during startup, when I have one for users when I select a home dir of an YP user or when I do cd ~ypuser, etc. I assume the problem is cured in 4.2, but I need an immediate solution! Wolfgang --- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Röckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de UniversitÙtsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ Germany GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e+++>++++ h+ r+ y? (Geek Code V3.x)
From: schack@skyler.arc.ab.ca (Brian Schack) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: C++ in framework? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 30 Jul 1997 08:22:33 -0600 Organization: Alberta Research Council, Calgary Alberta, Canada Sender: schack@skyler.arc.ab.ca Message-ID: <vb204g62mu.fsf@skyler.arc.ab.ca> References: <199707281715094377217@dip065-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> <5ripia$jal$2@owl.slip.net> <199707290328596592668@dip062-2.hamburg.netsurf.de> In-reply-to: dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de's message of Tue, 29 Jul 1997 03:28:59 +0200 >>>>> "Dix" == Dix Lorenz <dix.lorenz@hamburg.netsurf.de> writes: Dix> I am afraid I didn't make it too clear: the framework builds, Dix> the app doesn't. But your tip got me to finishing the build Dix> of my app. Horrible crash. I am almost afraid the linker is Dix> correct when it complains. So probably the building of the Dix> framework is the culprit. Dix> Do you have any other ideas? This sounds like a problem we struggled with for a while, caused by the stupidity of the NT linker. Basically functions and global variables are not exported properly from frameworks. At runtime, when the framework tries to access a global variable, it uses an incorrect address, and you get a "horrible crash". To get around it, you must use a Windows heinosity, namely the __declspec(dllimport) and __declspec(dllexport) declarations. More details can be found at: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2462.htmld/2462.html under the questions: "Why do I get a segmentation fault when trying to use a bundle?" "How do I export symbols other than class names from my framework?" Hope this helps. Brian -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Schack |mailto:schack@arc.ab.ca | "I don't want to achieve Alberta Research Council |http://www.arc.ab.ca | immortality through my 6815 8th St NE | | work ... I want to achieve Calgary, Alberta |ph: (403) 297-7564 | it through not dying." Canada T2E 7H7 |fax: (403) 297-2339 | - Woody Allen ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: RS232 interface from black next? Date: 30 Jul 1997 17:10:06 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5rnshe$jbs$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5rmbom$kf4$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> Cc: wasfy@pantheon.yale.edu Hupps, sorry... my first posting went out before I could write anything... Try 'man zs', it is a simple cable... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5rnser$jbs$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Control: cancel <5rnser$jbs$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: 30 Jul 1997 17:10:36 GMT Organization: ipc, University of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5rnsic$jbs$3@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>
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