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From: sroller@txpsmc.seanet.com (Steve Roller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help regarding Modem Cable for a 040 Cube Date: 1 May 1997 00:15:33 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <5k8nb5$fb@q.seanet.com> References: <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> Cc: jspears@weston.com In <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> "Wes Spears" wrote: > If you have one or know where I can pick one up, please let me know. <snip> Hi Wes, Visit: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Then call somebody to build it for you. I called Diane at Cables to Go 1-800-826-7904 and asked her to build several for our Puget Sound NeXT Users Group. She charged only $12 per cable! Their web site is http://www.cablestogo.com Steve Roller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen V. Roller <sroller@roller.seanet.com> Stop by and visit at: Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.postscript Subject: printing multiple copies Date: 1 May 1997 01:42:14 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5k8sdm$h7e$1@news1.ucsd.edu> I find that asking for multiple copies using the NeXT Print Panel does not work with one of my printers. It is an HP LaserJet 5MP, connected to the Ethernet with a Lantronix MPS1 print server. Operating system is NeXTstep 3.3. If I manually create a PostScript file containing the Level 1 PostScript command: /#copies 2 def or the Level 2 PostScript command: << /NumCopies 2>> setpagedevice and send it to the printer ( % lpr -Plj5 file2.ps) I get two copies. If I remove the request for 2 copies from the PostScript file, and print it through the print spooler requesting 2 copies ( % lpr -Plj5 -#2 file1.ps) I get only one copy. The manual for the MPS1 states that it does not implement the multiple-copy option of lpd printing. My deduction is that the NeXT Print Panel is invoking a command of the form % lpr -#2 .... when asked to print two copies, rather than inserting a multiple-copy request into the PostScript file. Is there any way to verify this, or change it? carl --- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] NEXTSTEP/Intel and MIDI Date: 1 May 1997 02:39:48 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5k8vpk$4pnk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <970421202556.388AAGhE.root@color> <970430173937.4714AAFCS.kjt@copper> kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk (Ken Turner) wrote: > With help from various people I got MIDI working with an MPU-401 compatible > sound card. (It was a fiddle to get IRQs and port addresses not to clash.) But > on NS 3.3 at least, I can't get multi-track files played properly (they rapidly > become unsynchronised). I strongly suspect the MIDI driver. Various people told > me that MIDI would probably not work if the same sound card were under the > control of the sound driver. Disabling the sound driver made no difference for > me. > > Ken Turner <kjt@cs.stir.ac.uk> I've had no trouble with MIDI under 3.3. I'm using the latest MIDI driver from CCRMA. (It's in the latest version of Sequence.app on ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu.) I'm using an MPU-401 board from Music Quest as well as the Ensoniq SoundScape. MidiPlayer.app works fine for both internal and external MIDI. Only Sequence.app seems to mess up my machine, sometime requiring a reboot to have the sound work properly again. By the way, try the new MMP.app. It works great and doesn't require a MIDI driver. The only thing about it is that it sometimes plays files with much slower tempi than I think they should be played and it's not adjustable. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
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From: ATL2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXHost to/from another domain Date: 1 May 1997 18:32:34 GMT Organization: Lehigh University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! Anyone know if it's possible to -NXHost to a machine in another domain? Cheers! Alex ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost to/from another domain Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:38:21 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123727.26749C-100000@kira> References: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: ATL2@lehigh.edu In-Reply-To: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> > Anyone know if it's possible to -NXHost to a machine in another domain? Conceivably, yes, assuming that PublicWindowServer is on/PrivateWindowServer is off and no filtering is being done... TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OpenStep 4.1: move dock to left side of screen? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:40:19 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123835.26749D-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Yeah, I know it's weird.... but I started using the left-justified dock a couple years ago under NS and really prefer it. I can't seem to find a dwrite for it under OpenStep (it's not the same as NS :-( I found one that controls the Y position, but the X doesn't seem to budge... Clues? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc From: enpdp@bath.ac.uk (D Pidcock) Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: School of Mechanical Engineering, University of Bath, UK Message-ID: <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 15:11:11 GMT In article <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie>, Daniel Keating <dkeating@maths.kst.dit.ie> writes: > Ling Wang wrote: >> >> Patrick Bartek wrote: >> > >> > Cray IIIa: 50 gigaflops, 16382 parallel processors. >> >> Where did that bogus information come from? Cray would >> make a cray with a MFLOPS/CPU slower than their Cray I >> of 30 years ago? 50GFLOPS/16382CPUS ~ 3MFLOPS ~ R2K or ~ PPro > > You bonehead!!!! a GFLOP=1,000 MFLOPS!! DO THE MATH!!! You do the maths. 50,000 MFlops divided by 16382 gives 3.05 MFlops per CPU. Which is what Ling said. - Dan -- D.Pidcock@bath.ac.uk : http://www.bath.ac.uk/~enpdp/home.html +44 1225 826826 x5961
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@BellAtlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What kind of RAM in a turbo color slab Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 01:24:39 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33697A91.5962@BellAtlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got a turbo color slab and I just swapped memory between it and my intel-box. The Intel box runs fine with the 2 8-meg SIMMs from the NeXT but the NeXT reports parity errors and hangs. I've tried resetting the NVRAM by pulling the battery but to no avail. (the parity error message on the ROM monitor has been replaced by the much less helpfull "System has failed startup tests" message on the graphical startup screen) Neither the 8-Meg SIMMs that came out of the NeXT nor the 16-Meg SIMMs that came out of the intel-box seem to have parity (the 8-Meg SIMMs are double sided with 8 chips per side while the 16-Meg SIMMs are single sided and have only 8 chips total) so I'm a little puzzled by the parity error. I seem to remember that the ROM monitor preferences command had an option to use parity checking if parity memory was installed. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help. - Jeff Dutky
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost to/from another domain Date: 2 May 1997 16:03:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5kd38a$4gn$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123727.26749C-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > >> Anyone know if it's possible to -NXHost to a machine in another domain? > >Conceivably, yes, assuming that PublicWindowServer is >on/PrivateWindowServer is off and no filtering is being done... > >TjL > > I have done this across the internet. But, it can be very very ssslloooowwww.... You need latencies of less than 100ms and transfer rates greater than 50kb/s in order for it to be more than just an interesting exercise. --Ryan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NXHost to/from another domain Message-ID: <E9JxMr.2z5@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:37:39 GMT In article <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> ATL2@lehigh.edu writes: > Hi all! > > Anyone know if it's possible to -NXHost to a machine in another domain? > Got nothing to do with domains. It is an IP service and any rule for IP services apply (i.e. the network must be reachable and the port must not be filtered out). If the other machine has the Public Window Server option set and the client knows how to translate the hostname into an IP address... There must be a good reason if even NeXT is warning of the perils of this option ;-) And since PostScript has filesystem manipulation as one of its features... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can I use old versions of NS ? Message-ID: <E9Jwzz.2xq@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3364F18C.47715258@elf.stuba.sk> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:23:59 GMT In article <3364F18C.47715258@elf.stuba.sk> Michal Bencur <bencur@elf.stuba.sk> writes: > I've got a possiblity to buy NextStep 2.? version. > I want to ask if it is possible to use it now, > as I know NS3.3 is usable, now you are migrating to 4.X. > So is 2.X OK, or it's too old and a lot of apps will not > work ? > This needs a definition of the term "usability". If you mean "it works and is good for something" the answer is yes. If you mean "is able to take advantage of recent enhancements and can be part of current development" the answer is no. IMHO, anything prior to NS 3.3 (possibly NS 3.2 on black) is nothing more than a collectible item for NEXTSTEP affectionados. But I also believe that a OS 4.x upgrade is hardly justifyable for users and even needs a closer look for developers. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.5kd5cv$5sm$7378@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Control: cancel <5kd5cv$5sm$7378@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5kd5cv$5sm$7378@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 18:20:30 GMT Sender: hinda ann kolansky<ayala20@prodigy.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Info] More than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 20:04:17 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <970503050417.584AAGhE.root@color> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII [Info] More than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP You can get any info about following softwares and hardwares, but You need to know Korean language. . NEXTSTEP 3.3J, OPENSTEP 4.1J, Rhapsody, Korean Languge Kit. . Graphics: TIFFany, solidThingking, Creat, SuperDraw, Virtuoso, OneVision... . Internet: Omniweb, Gatekeeper, PPP 2.3, HNNews, RadicalNews... . NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP hardwares, . And Business, Commuications, Tools, Network, Utilities, Music, Mathematics...etc. You can use more than 2,000 pages about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody. Regards, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A board written in Korean)
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need to find Printing Service Bureau for NeXT Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 20:24:14 -0400 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <336A85AE.37C2@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <5k8gpu$c36@li.oro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi To: tj@oro.net My Account wrote: > > Looking for any printing service bureau that can print material made on a > NeXT system. Prefer one that can receive pages by NeXTmail or FTP. Can > send hard copy disks if need be. > > Let me know who does this work and where I can reach them. > > Thanks > > Tom I suggest you talk to the people at GSCorp: http://www.gscorp.com/ For slides: I have had excellent results using Concurrence to output to EPS files (for slides) and attaching those to a MIME message sent to the folks at Elegant Graphics http://www.slides.com They have excellent service and you can send them the files in a variety of ways (ftp, e-mail, media). I am not affiliated with Elegant Graphics, just a satisfied customer. -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Need to find Printing Service Bureau for NeXT Date: 3 May 1997 03:51:32 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5keco4$qfd$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5k8gpu$c36@li.oro.net> <336A85AE.37C2@arch.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: <336A85AE.37C2@arch.buffalo.edu> On 05/02/97, jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote: >My Account wrote: >> >> Looking for any printing service bureau that can print material made on a >> NeXT system. Prefer one that can receive pages by NeXTmail or FTP. Can >> send hard copy disks if need be. >> >> Let me know who does this work and where I can reach them. >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom > >I suggest you talk to the people at GSCorp: > > http://www.gscorp.com/ > You can also check Stepwise.. http://www2.stepwise.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Stepwise/ISVs There is a list of savvy service bureaus there. If you know of any that are good, get the information to me and I'll add it. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: karl@ensuing.com (Karl Kraft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q:How to make a bootable headless cube Date: 2 May 1997 17:58:31 GMT Organization: Ensuing Technologies Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kda07$mm8@enok.ensuing.com> I have a NeXT cube that I would like to run headless. I seem to recall that long ago someone posted a description of a circut that would allow you to do this, does anyone know where that would be? Also didn't someone make a product that would do this? Any and all pointers appreciated. -- Karl Kraft NeXT/Mac Developer karl@ensuing.com http://www.relada.com/ (Play Java games online)
From: Peter Sung <fantasia@hula.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 04:06:47 -0700 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Message-ID: <336B1C47.67EC@hula.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="income.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="income.txt" A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps and $5.00, right? Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with my country Post Office, and others had with US Post (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $5.00............. Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... It's certainly worth $5.00, and 5 stamps, I spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 B.C. Smith P.O. Box 170 Greenland, AR 72703 #2 Beddingfield, Bobby 12404 Nokesville Road P.O. Box 40 Nokesville, Va 22123 #3 Keen, Callye 44181 Bristow Circle Ashburn, VA 20147 #4 Tom, BDB. Via Damiano Chiesa 10 00010 Marcellina (Roma) Italy #5 H. J. Sung 1839 Keeaumoku St. Honolulu, HI 96822-3004 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte’s "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** --- Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say it's illegal and don't work... They are just too much skeptics. You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc From: "John D. Kaminsky" <kaminsky@virginia.edu> Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Virginia References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 07:07:09 GMT > You do the maths. 50,000 MFlops divided by 16382 gives 3.05 MFlops > per CPU. Which is what Ling said. Wherever he got this information I have no idea. Cray's biggest machine to date is 4096 processors, currently being built for Los Alamos National Lab to model Nuclear explosions. According to Cray, a current T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. The T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated performance of >1 TeraFlop. You guys shouldn't get so crabby about math when the information you are starting with is totally bogus.
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NXHost to/from another domain Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 18:09:39 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336E7698.57A4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <5kank2$13km@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <E9JxMr.2z5@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Peter Nitezki wrote: > There must be a good reason if even NeXT is warning of the perils of this > option ;-) And since PostScript has filesystem manipulation as one of its > features... Hmm, so when do we get Secure DPS services? Rhapsody? :) Quake sure is fun to play over the network...NXHosting should be fun too...XHosting is. -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
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From: greg davis <gregor@crosslink.net> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:11:55 -0400 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3370A9CB.47E7@crosslink.net> References: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dkat wrote: > > Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation > (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like > Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are > used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle > these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change > the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not > have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK One alternative is to run a Hewlett-Packard Jet Direct box out of the ethernet port. It isn't the cheapest solution, but depending which model you get (1 or 3 outputs) you can run any parallel port output printer at network transfer speeds, and any machine (if you are on a local network) can access the printer(s). GS Corp had an excellent Epson driver for the 500, and that should drive the 800 as well. The downside there is that they are no longer selling license keys for their most excellent product any longer, as far as I know. Jet Pilot is still current but I've never used it, but it will work in conjunction with the Jet Direct box. BTW, a single port box is $225 or so street price, and the EX model is about $375. Lotsa luck Gregor
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT hardware support? Date: 7 May 1997 21:18:44 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5kqrjk$kdu@news.tamu.edu> References: <dwagleyE99C25.2Gr@netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 May 1997 21:18:44 GMT In-Reply-To: <dwagleyE99C25.2Gr@netcom.com> On 04/26/97, Doug Wagley wrote: >Is anyone still providing maintenance for NeXT hardware? I have an unhappy >NeXT laser printer that has developed a high pitched whine and waits a very >long time before feeding the sheet. It then just prints a thin horizontal >smear across the paper. I'm in the metro Denver area. If anybody knows >who could provide service please let me know. > > Thanks, > Doug > > dwagley@netcom.com > Here is a page that does have some do it yourself printer repair notes: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html and here is a company that does repairs and has refurbished ones: Printer Works 800-225-6116, fax 510-786-0589 attn: Doug x713 3481 Arden Road Hayward, CA 94545 This is the 'official' NeXT hardware company: Decision One (Bell Atlantic) 800-499-6398 fax 510-266-3078 -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 6 May 1997 16:53:14 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Thanks immensely for your help, --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 01:56:40 -0400 Organization: IDT Message-ID: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my way. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow
From: "dkat" <dkat@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: 6 May 1997 17:55:52 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK
From: see@address.in.signature (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:49:12 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <see-0705971349130001@204.191.6.55> References: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> In article <336EC818.CCC@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > Dear Netters, > > The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power > Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition > welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. > > So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my > way. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Samuel Chow Orb sells Cube in working order (as well as other black equipment). They also sell parts. Check them out at www.orb.com. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Have you seen www.next.com ? Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 05:25:12 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970509052153.19561A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Welcome to Apple Enterprise Software Group formertly NeXT Software, Inc" Interesting... TjL ps -- wwdc attendees get a free development tools.... see http://www8.zdnet.com/macweek/mw_1118/nw_openstep.html (thanks to StepWise for showing me this!)
From: rmuise@bnr.ca (Richard Muise ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: 9 May 1997 13:21:14 GMT Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kv8ca$c86@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> Originator: rmuise@bcarsd8f In article <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu>, pxpst2+@pitt.edu (peter) writes: |> In article <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu>, kaminsky@virginia.edu wrote: |> |> |> |> > Wherever he got this information I have no idea. Cray's biggest machine |> > to date is 4096 processors, currently being built for Los Alamos |> > National Lab to model Nuclear explosions. |> |> I think that you are mistaken. The teraflop machine is a intel piece of |> shit built using 32 bit chips Pentium Pros running a hack of Unikos. I |> could be confussing it with a DOE computer but it costed over 60 million |> to build and is not scalar but is capable of teraflop calculations with |> its 7000 processors. you are wrong. There is more than one machine in the ASCI program. Intel has delivered most of the first machine to Sandia. It has 9200 processors not 7000. It cost around $45 million US at the time of contract signing. It will have a main memory of over 500GB (which is pretty damn amazing, and may have increased the purchase price). I'm not sure why you think it's not scalar. I assume that you correctly were pointing out that on pure serial code, it is only as fast as a single PPro (where as the large Cray vectors are much faster at serial code, but are not as fast on huge vector data sets). |> What a fucking wate of good money. Crays do that for half the cost. No they don't. In fact i believe the Cray Teraflops machine is around the $110 for the 3Teraflops computer and the 1 teraflop upgrade due at the end of the decade. |> The fastest Cray that I know of is at Pittsburgh SuperComputing Center and |> has 512 PEs , half are 300 and half are 450. wrong again. There are two 512 processor machines at PSC. One is the T3D (with 150Mhz Dec Alpha 21064A i think), and the other is the monster T3E-900 with 450Mhz 21164A processors. |> The Cray T3D was delivered to the Los Alamos Advanced Computing Laboratory |> in June 1994. It is a 128-processor machine that will be used primarily |> for collaborative research with industry. wrong again. There are two Cray T3D's at Los Alamos, one has 256 processors, the other 512 processors. |> Last year, over 50 percent of NSF's supercomputing was done at PSC on T3D |> named MARIO i have no way of verifying this, but have doubts about it. for now i'll assume that you are right however. -r. rmuise@nortel.ca
From: steffi@dgs.dgsys.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep T-Shirt at last Saturdays Austin Powers 9:15pm Date: 9 May 1997 10:36:42 -0400 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5kvcpq$pir@dgs.dgsys.com> Who was the gentleman wearing the OpenStep T-Shirt at last Saturdays Austin Powers 9:15pm screening at the Multiplex cinema in Merryfield VA?
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 May 1997 17:27:40 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can proceed as follows: 0) MAKE A BACKUP :-) 1) prepare the new disk by giving it a SCSI id above the one your internal disk has (changing the internal id if it's set to zero of course). 2) power down the cube, attach new disk. 3) power up, log in as root. When prompted wether you wish to format the new disk, click yes. 4) give it a meaningful label :-) 5) doubleclick /NextAdmin/BuildDisk.app and use it. It's really simple.. 6) powerdown, change SCSI ids so that the new disk now has a lower id, and power on again. This gives you a bootable new disk, configured to match the original one. You can then copy over directories like /LocalApps and /User by simply dragging them from the other disk. Alternatively, replace step 5 with gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) this will copy the complete system. Of course, there are more complex ways to go about builing your new system, but following the above steps, you are the least likely to shoot yourself in the foot. :-) Feel free to send me personal email (sans the "nospam") if you have any questions. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "Eric R. Balch" <ebalch@wrightstrat.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 9 May 1997 19:42:08 GMT Organization: Wright Strategies Message-ID: <01bc5cb0$5fe6ec20$1293d4cc@grayslab.wrightstrat> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@204.212.147.18 No. However there was a version made for MS Windows 3.1 (big woop right?) Anyway, just thought you needed to know =;-) - Eric Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz <zlewanto@stan.donet.com> wrote in article <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com>... > Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one > obtain a copy? > > Currently am ruuning a version on my trusty Cube 040, but am slowly migrating > to an Intel NS3.3 platform. > > Ditto for FrameMaker 3.2 > > Stan >
From: pxpst2+@pitt.edu (peter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: 9 May 1997 19:24:03 GMT Organization: Univ.of Pittsburgh Distribution: world Message-ID: <pxpst2+-0905971531040001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <5kv8ca$c86@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> > > |> The fastest Cray that I know of is at Pittsburgh SuperComputing Center and > |> has 512 PEs , half are 300 and half are 450. > > wrong again. There are two 512 processor machines at PSC. One is the T3D (with 150Mhz Dec Alpha 21064A i think), and the other is the monster T3E-900 with 450Mhz 21164A processors. You are very presumptive. If you check PSC's homepage you will find that you are indeed wrong and I am RIGHT. > |> The Cray T3D was delivered to the Los Alamos Advanced Computing Laboratory > |> in June 1994. It is a 128-processor machine that will be used primarily > |> for collaborative research with industry. > > wrong again. There are two Cray T3D's at Los Alamos, one has 256 processors, the other 512 processors. That info came right out off the LOS ALAMOS LAB homepage so either you do not know what you are talking about or LOS ALAMOS does not know what they have Itend to believe you are simply presumptive > > |> Last year, over 50 percent of NSF's supercomputing was done at PSC on T3D > |> named MARIO > > i have no way of verifying this, but have doubts about it. for now i'll assume that you are right however. check with NSF. All NSF centers (4 total) were just reveiwed due to the reallocation of funds and the elimination of two supercomputing centers. The claim to fame for PSC is that they have the fastest non government owned computers in the world. > rmuise@nortel.ca
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Looking for: USRobotics init strings (Sportster) Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 11:39:34 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970509113446.4077A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: nextppp@listproc.thoughtport.com Hey folks... I'm just looking for folks who are using USRobotics Sportster modems and what init strings they are using... I'm wondering if there are better ones than the ones I'm using which I got from kermit: 'ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3' ATS2=43 ATS7=255 AT&K1' AT&M4&B1 Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: "Patrick J. Paulus" <pjp@us.net> Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Various Workstations & other hardware. Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 13:40:02 -0400 Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <336F6CF2.6542A714@us.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: pjp@us.net Hi, If anyone has anything in this list of hardware for sale @ good prices in the Baltimore, MD (or close) area.. Please email me at the above address, thanks. Sun workstations w/ Solaris 2.5 or better. IBM Workstations w/ AIX (any ver.) Old AT&T Workstations NeXTstation Turbos (33mhz) Cisco 2501 routers Lanstar 5 Port hubs 386/486 bundles (with monitors.) Thanks again, _______________________________ Patrick J. Paulus / pjp@us.net
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From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Sound recording problems. Date: 7 May 1997 04:20:01 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kovth$abf@winter.erols.com> Hi, I have NS3.3/Intel. I am using a SoundBlaster 16 vibra card (non-PnP) and the latest versions of both the EISABus driver and the SoundBlaster16 driver. The problem is that I am having some trouble recording sounds using any application which records from the microphone. I also have Win95 on the machine and recording works fine. I have seen postings concerning a bug in NeXT's driver and I was wondering if there's any fix for this problem yet. Thanks very much for any help you may offer. Gregory John Casamento
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS April Quiz results, new May Quiz started Date: 3 May 1997 15:42:31 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5kfmd7$dha$1@news.Austria.EU.net> The SSS April Quiz has ended, the winners are drawn, and the new May Quiz has started NOW! For April results as well as for the new May quiz question, please visit http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is June 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
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From: aks@vnp.com (Allan Schougaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 7 May 1997 18:19:28 GMT Organization: Pioneer Global Message-ID: <5kqh3g$gbf@wizard.pn.com> References: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> In article <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) writes: > John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? > > Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" > from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can > proceed as follows: .. stuff deleted ... > Alternatively, replace step 5 with > gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) > this will copy the complete system. dump/restore might also be a way to preceed. --Allan
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:56:05 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970510145434.9036H-100000@kira> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> <E9xqA2.9C4@muaddib.m.isar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <E9xqA2.9C4@muaddib.m.isar.de> The real pain is that trying to NXHost Improv docs (.imp) via OpenSesame on my slab from my Intel doesn't seem to work.... I've got to open the app and then manually open the file.... unless I'm missing something.... TjL
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <851862718425@digifix.com> Date: 11 May 1997 03:58:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5l2koh$ipl$4738@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Control: cancel <5l2koh$ipl$4738@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 05:35:41 +1 Organization: Internet Communications Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.5l2koh$ipl$4738@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> References: <5l2koh$ipl$4738@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "InternetCommunicationsInc" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Make Money With Your Computer!.
From: "Scott A. Perry" <sperry@os-knight.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Sparc 5 w/dual ethernet Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500 Organization: OS-Knight Corp. Message-ID: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help, I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 for Sparc on a Sparc 5 that has a SCSI/Ethernet SBus card in it. I try booting and it hangs on the network interface initialization. Are there any drivers that I can apply to get past this hump? (Removing the SBus card is not an option). Thanks in Advance. Desperately Seeking Solution, Scott A. Perry sperry@os-knight.com P.S. Could you please email me as I don't get a chance to read this group as often as I'd like (I just can't seem to get away from those 4 hours/night of sleep). Again, thanks. Scott
From: pxpst2+@pitt.edu (peter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: 8 May 1997 15:22:29 GMT Organization: Univ.of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> In article <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu>, kaminsky@virginia.edu wrote: > Wherever he got this information I have no idea. Cray's biggest machine > to date is 4096 processors, currently being built for Los Alamos > National Lab to model Nuclear explosions. I think that you are mistaken. The teraflop machine is a intel piece of shit built using 32 bit chips Pentium Pros running a hack of Unikos. I could be confussing it with a DOE computer but it costed over 60 million to build and is not scalar but is capable of teraflop calculations with its 7000 processors. What a fucking wate of good money. Crays do that for half the cost. The fastest Cray that I know of is at Pittsburgh SuperComputing Center and has 512 PEs , half are 300 and half are 450. The Cray T3D was delivered to the Los Alamos Advanced Computing Laboratory in June 1994. It is a 128-processor machine that will be used primarily for collaborative research with industry. Last year, over 50 percent of NSF's supercomputing was done at PSC on T3D named MARIO According to Cray, a current > T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. The > T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated performance > of >1 TeraFlop. You guys shouldn't get so crabby about math when the > information you are starting with is totally bogus. Peter Pediaditakis pxpst2@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: ** Craig Cook ** <cookca@cs.purdue.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Anyone successfully get samba to compile? Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:53:03 -0500 Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970511105141.2859P-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm trying to compile samba and the make process crashes once the linking begins. Has anyone made it all the way through? If so - what compiler did you use, and what makefile settings. thanks Craig
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 11 May 1997 14:53:58 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5l54k6$jj6@papoose.quick.com> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> In article <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com>, Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz <zlewanto@stan.donet.com> wrote: >Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one >obtain a copy? > >Currently am ruuning a version on my trusty Cube 040, but am slowly migrating >to an Intel NS3.3 platform. Improv was never released FAT. Lighthouse Design made a quite good Improv-like spreadsheet called Quantrix. I have used that for 4-5 years now and have been quite happy with it. p.s. I hope LightHouse gets off the fence and decides to port their apps to Rhapsody. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: perkins@netmass.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: glib-c port Date: 11 May 1997 21:36:02 GMT Organization: Netmass Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <5l5e42$k7f$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> I've been rather frustrated with the OS 4.1 compilation abilities. Seems that many apps won't compile under OPENStep. POSIX support is basically gone. Is anyone seriously and actively looking at a port of GNU's C library to OPENSTEP? Seems if we had glib-c and the lastest GNU compiler, we'd have the same compilation environment as is available in Linux. Please let me know your thoughts on the undertaking of such a port. It would be a large effort... do you think there is a need? Regards, Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | NetMass Communications | perkins@netmass.com NeXT OS3.3 with PPP-2.3 | NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
From: Uvtr@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: All Writers! Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 17:01:59 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5l5c3d$id8@chile.earthlink.net> Now*accepting <new> and <previously published> writers for publication. We are a NEW=YORK based international literary agency with three offices: 2 in NEW=YORK and one in <FLORIDA.> <Please follow guidelines for submission:> For ALL fiction, including screenplays for TV & Movies: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope=S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Send brief synopsis, 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send 3 poems, S.A.S.E. For ALL nonfiction: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a S.A.S.E. Do not send complete manuscript unless invited. <WOODSIDE=INTERNATIONAL=LITERARY=AGENCY> <Thirty Three Twenty Nine 58 St.> <Wood-Side, New York> <zip: 1.1.3.7.7> <(Tel)=={718}=651=8145> AFTER MAY 12, 1997, please submit your material to our branch office at: Woodside International Literary Agency 1190=North=Collier=Blvd. Marco Island, Florida zip: 34145 Tel: 941-642-9660
From: perkins@netmass.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PPP Autodetection Experiment Date: 11 May 1997 22:04:09 GMT Organization: Netmass Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <5l5fop$n2v$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Hi all, I've been thinking a bit about the installation and configuration of PPP. I want to streamline this process for PPP-2.3. To this end, I have a request for you adventuresome types that have PPP access through commercial providers. Win95 came out a few years ago, and with it, an explosion of PPP usage. Since Win95 didn't intially come with anything like a 'chat' program (yes I know you can get one now), providers started using a PPP autodetection feature along with PAP or CHAP for authentication. Such a setup makes connection easy since all you have to do is dial the modem and start PPP. There is no "login sequence" to perform. If your provider supports Win95 clients (Yea... I know... who doesn't), I would like to request that you perform the following experiment: Make a new pppup script (maybe called pppup.test) that calls a new chat script. This chat script should simply dial the phone and wait for the CONNECT. In other words, it will be identical to your current chat script except that it doesn't have the login sequence stuff. Then, configure your system to use PAP or CHAP (whatever your provider requests). I am interested in hearing about the success or failure of your experiments. I suspect that most providers now support PPP autodetect (because of Win95) and I'm hoping that we can take advantage of this to simplify our lives! Thanks in advance for your comments! - Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | NetMass Communications | perkins@netmass.com NeXT OS3.3 with PPP-2.3 | NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
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From: Michael Taylor <mtaylor@aw.sgi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 17:46:33 -0400 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Message-ID: <337249B9.D09E1C4B@aw.sgi.com> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Cray T3D was delivered to the Los Alamos Advanced Computing Laboratory > in June 1994. It is a 128-processor machine that will be used primarily > for collaborative research with industry. Cray has contracts to build bigger machines for them that haven't been delivered yet. It includes a 3,072 processor machine. See the following press release for more info: http://www.cray.com/PUBLIC/WHATS_NEW/COMPANY/OCT96/ASCI.html -- /\/\ike Taylor Alias|Wavefront Toronto
From: psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:18:29 -0500 Organization: the Dragon Distribution: inet Message-ID: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, ethernet that is. The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean New OS install. The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! When I log on as root, the icons in my apps dock are generic icons, and I have NO /NextApps directory/folder... All I have is /NextDeveloper, Library, Tour... and therefor, NO services... I want to reformat the drive... and begin FRESH... I have files that have NOT been touched since 1990... I need an OS... I did manage to upgrade the cube to 28MBs of RAM, and it already comes with an '040 with a 660HD and MO drive... no floppy... I want to connect it to my existing HOME ethernet network, and turn it into a possible print/file server... I did get the NeXT LaserWriter with it... I already have a PMac 7100/66/2xCD/56MB RAM/1GB HD... MacIIci 32MB/250 HD/DayStar cache card... Mac SE 4/80... HP DeskWriter w/Mini EtherPrint box... all connected with Cat 5 to a Dayna MiniHub-8... I have spent a good part of the weekend reading what I have in print, including the "Upgrading to Release 2.0", and I have surfed the various Net homepages, and found some GREAT FUTURE INFO... but, I have a really operating OS... In my searches, I was not able to find a place, where I could download ANY version... Did I miss something?? At NeXTes homepage, I found the multiple-K stuff without a problem, I am NOT an Enterprise... I just want to get a simple basic OS... Bonuses would be WriteNow... Mathematica... Websters... etc... I have emailed the folks at NeXT... and seeing it was the weekend, I really did not expect to hear anything til Monday... I did get an AutoAnswer from there mailer... Where can I find and OS!! I am willing to spend a couple hundred bucks for a LEGAL copy (factory sealed). Or, I do have a T1 at work and a major credit card... SCSI storage is NOT a problem... I carry a 3.2GBs HD around for work... I also have a 7300/180 with 2GBs... At home, externally, there is a 500HD, 1GB HD, 230HD 3.5" MO, 45MB SyQuest, and a 1xCD... I am also planning to hookup a TeleBit T-3000... In the new apartment, I'm looking at ISDN... July 1st time frame... In the new apartment, it looks like there will be at least three WinTels; 386/Win3.X, 486/Win95, 596/NT4 added to the HomeNet... Looking to go to TCP/IP... Again, after all that background info, I come back to my basic question... Where can I get a LEGAL version of a NeXT OS that will run on a NeXT 040/28MB RAM/660MB HD/256MB MO???? I you have any other comments, please send them along to me... Please don't spam... If I did miss something... Sorry, but I could not easily find it in the FAQs online... I have done some reading in my life, and I generally enjoy useful, practical information... I also submit the above with the knowledge that MacOS 8.0 is just around the corner, and Rhapsody's light might just be seen at the end of the WWDC next week's tunnel. Thanks in advance, Psybeast psybeast@pond.com www.pond.com/~psybeast ----- "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet" - Chinese future cookie
From: quinonez@ucla.edu (G. Quinonez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Pentium Pro Motherboard Help Date: 9 May 1997 01:54:38 GMT Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5ku04u$adl@bolivia.earthlink.net> I want to upgrade my Pentium 90 system to a PPro 200MHz system. I was considering two motherboards the..... ASUS P6NP5 & SuperMicro P6SNE. If there are any others that are recommended instead, please let me know. I was wondering if these are compatible with NeXTSTep 3.3 and if there are any problems. Would there be any conflicts with the following hardware? Diamond Stealth 2mb VRAM ProAudio sound card Adaptec 2940 SCSI card USRobotics 33.6 modem. Thanks for the help. Please respond to quinonez@ucla.edu -- _____________________________________________ G. Quinonez, MD <quinonez@ucla.edu> NeXTStep 3.3/Windoze NT 4.0 NeXTMail/SunMail Welcome http://emf.net/~ihouse/Alumni-pages/quinonez/
From: mrhuey@wizvax.wizvax.net (Ramsay D. Seielstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 07:38:35 -0400 Organization: WizVax Communications, Troy, New York, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <7EwdzoJPMKBX090yn@wizvax.wizvax.net> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <5kv8ca$c86@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5kv8ca$c86@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, rmuise@bnr.ca (Richard Muise ) wrote: -> ->In article <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu>, pxpst2+@pitt.edu (peter) writes: ->|> In article <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu>, kaminsky@virginia.edu wrote: ->|> ->|> > Wherever he got this information I have no idea. Cray's biggest machine -> -> [ SNIP SNIP ] -> ->|> What a fucking wate of good money. Crays do that for half the cost. -> ->No they don't. In fact i believe the Cray Teraflops machine is around the $110 for the 3Teraflops computer and the 1 teraflop upgrade due at the end of the decade. -> Only $110 for a 3 Teraflops Cray - is that new or used? Oh, who cares whether it is new or used, send me one COD! -> [ SNIP SNIP ] -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Ramsay D. Seielstad | mrhuey@wizvax.net; Af029@Detroit.Freenet.Org | | Schenectady, NY | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=+=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | "No fancy terminators or trailers, No opinion, Just an average, everyday | | guy with a bunch of unrelated hobbyist activities that have no significant | | use or value other than to amuse myself and occupy my free time ... and | | trust me, these ain't MY employer's opinions or views" | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,il.jobs Subject: NEXT/Career Position/ILL Date: 12 May 1997 13:03:58 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <5l74fu$hb4@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXT------------------------Commercial experience Objective C-----------------Commercial experience EOF-------------------------A Plus Career Position-------------Exceptional Benefits Area------------------------Greater Chicago Area Opportunity-----------------Excellent To Be Considered------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: mgoedel@m.isar.de Subject: Re: Looking for: USRobotics init strings (Sportster) Message-ID: <EA1I7G.BMK@muaddib.m.isar.de> Sender: mgoedel@muaddib.m.isar.de (Maximilian Goedel) Organization: Michael Maximilian Goedel References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970509113446.4077A-100000@kira> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 23:21:15 GMT In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970509113446.4077A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > Hey folks... I'm just looking for folks who are using USRobotics Sportster > modems and what init strings they are using... I'm wondering if there are > better ones than the ones I'm using which I got from kermit: > > 'ATQ0X4&A3&N0&Y3' > ATS2=43 > ATS7=255 > AT&K1' > AT&M4&B1 > > Thanks > TjL > > > -- > TjL <luomat@peak.org> > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! > Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more. > > > Hi TjL, USR Initstrings are a little bit more tricky than normal strings. There are only few models out from USR which can be configured with an hayes compatible string, like you use. The S-registers are mostly the biggest problem. Simple way to check it out. If you install a CompuServe WINCIM on a PC-BOX, look at this init-string in WINCIMs Modemsettings. Choose the one for USR Sportster. This usualy works Nice Greetings from Munich MaX(T) -- __ Michael Maximilian Goedel | Agilolfinger Platz 10 /\_\ KARSTADT AG Unternehmensbereich IW | 81543 Muenchen \/_/ Sysadmin der cyberb@r | Tel.: 049 89 652918 NeXTSTEP! mgoedel@m.isar.de (NeXT) | Work: 049 89 2902-5418
From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 12 May 97 20:42:09 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5l7v6b$dqq$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,dc.jobs Subject: NEXTSTEP/Contract-Long Term/DC Area Date: 13 May 1997 01:44:59 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <5l8h2r$fkn@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXTSTEP-------------------Commercial experience Objective C----------------Commercial experience Banking or Financial Experience---A Plus Contract-------------------Long Term Area-----------------------Greater DC Area Start Date-----------------ASAP To Be Considered-----------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE Date: Tue, 13 May 97 02:10:11 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow
From: gcasamen@erols.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP!! Problem setting up BJC620 w/ Ghostscript. Date: 13 May 1997 04:36:45 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5l8r4t$mce@winter.erols.com> Keywords: Canon, Print, Ghostscript, print filter Hi, I recently got a Canon BJC620 and have set up the ghostscript print filter so that I can get postscript output. The only problem is that, for some reason, the printer will split the image over several pages. Basically I'll get a strip of an image and the rest of the page is blank, then another strip on the next page and so on. I'm not sure why this happens. I am using the bjc600 printer device with ghostscript. I am also using the GS_Canon_BJC600.ppd file which came with ghostscript. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.... Greg C. P.S. Reply to both gcasamen@erols.com and gcasamen@eos.hitc.com, if sending e-mail. Otherwise just reply to this group.
From: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Infusion Subject: Infusion BBS Software Message-ID: <33765d9f.0@data.wt.net> Date: 12 May 97 00:00:31 GMT I just thought I'd let everyone know.... There is finally a BBS Software with all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity, but without the bugs and bad support. Infusion BBS Software is a new generation in BBS Software, modeled after OBV/2 and Iniquity with everything that the sysop can imagine..and more. Some basic features are: o Multi-node upto 255 concurrent users o Light-bar support [arrow keys] o Requires NO Fossil Driver [selectable FOSSIL, ASYNC, and Digiboard for each node] o Online Configuration [menu editor, string editor, evemt editor, node editor, system editor, etc] o Pipe Color Codes o MCI Codes o Powerful scripting language o Internal One-Liners, Blacklist, voting booth, etc o Internal Z-Modem, X-Modem, Y-Modem, Y-modem-g [no limit to external protocols] o Internal COMM Program with internal protocols, Auto Up/DL o Great support o Basically all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity combined Infusion has been picked up by fuEl [international art group], and Infusion 1.0th will be released June 10th. Come to the Infusion Home-Page at http://web.wt.net/~sparky/ibbs/ and jump into the JAVA Based Chatroom, or come to the ANNEX, the official Infusion IRC Server [irc.annex.net] #infusion / #bbs send the author skaboy101 [Grant Passmore] E-mail at skaboy@usa.net -lata skaboy101
From: 3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Eberhard Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Waitpid? Date: 13 May 1997 06:24:09 GMT Organization: University of Hamburg -- Germany Message-ID: <5l91e9$8he$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Hello, I am cuurently trying to compile some source. One of them uses waitpid(). The linkers doesn't find it even though man knows about it and says it's a POSIX call. Can anyone help me? I am using Openstep 4.0 for Mach/Intel. Eberhard
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <33765d9f.0@data.wt.net> Date: 13 May 1997 06:25:59 GMT Control: cancel <33765d9f.0@data.wt.net> Message-ID: <cancel.33765d9f.0@data.wt.net> Sender: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: What to do in a Panic? Message-ID: <E9u6K5.7sy@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: news@boss.cs.ohiou.edu (News Admin) Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 00:26:29 GMT Periodically, my black NeXT Slab drops into a "Panic" box. This usually occurs while I am logged in using ppp from home. My connection drops and I cannot get back in. Is there any way to have the slab automatically reboot when it hits such a panic or any way to log in remotely to reboot? As far as I can tell, the only way to fix this is to drive into the office, sit at the NeXTStation itself and reboot. Thanks, -- Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Waitpid? Date: 13 May 1997 11:10:14 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5l9i6m$22d$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5l91e9$8he$1@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Eberhard Wolff (3wolff@rzdspc5.informatik.uni-hamburg.de) wrote: > I am cuurently trying to compile some source. One of them uses > waitpid(). The linkers doesn't find it even though man knows about it > and says it's a POSIX call. Can anyone help me? I am using Openstep > 4.0 for Mach/Intel. As long as all you need is waitpid, use the workaround that can be found in the FAQ. Stay away from the POSIX libs if you can :-/... HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: "Josh McDonald" <os-dev@effect.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: 13 May 1997 10:20:07 GMT Organization: NetEffect Internet Message-ID: <01bc5f8f$ba994460$15621ecb@homer.effect.net.au> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> > I think that you are mistaken. The teraflop machine is a intel piece of > shit built using 32 bit chips Pentium Pros running a hack of Unikos. I > could be confussing it with a DOE computer but it costed over 60 million > to build and is not scalar but is capable of teraflop calculations with > its 7000 processors. > What a fucking wate of good money. Crays do that for half the cost. No machine save the huge intel beast has ever achieved a teraflop, for any amount of money. -Josh
From: "Vos nom et prénom" <missing_link@infonie.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need Next Step 3.0 or 3.1 for Next Station 25 MHZ Date: 13 May 1997 16:36:38 GMT Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: <01bc5fbb$930606a0$295d4ec2@pentium> Cache-Post-Path: zeus.infonie.be!unknown@ppp-93-41.infonie.be Hi every one.. My Next color Station is crashed. I need a CDROM to réinstall my system.Who cans help me? A copy or anything ... (not for free) Thank's
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: What to do in a Panic? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 13 May 1997 19:54:31 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5lagtn$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <E9u6K5.7sy@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Cc: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN In <E9u6K5.7sy@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Walter C3arlip wrote: > Periodically, my black NeXT Slab drops into a "Panic" box. This > usually occurs while I am logged in using ppp from home. My > connection drops and I cannot get back in. > > Is there any way to have the slab automatically reboot when > it hits such a panic or any way to log in remotely to reboot? > > As far as I can tell, the only way to fix this is to drive > into the office, sit at the NeXTStation itself and reboot. > > Thanks, > > -- Walter > > > this is not normal behaviour, in my experience, so I'd suggest finding the culprit and fixing it, rather than setting it up to reboot. I've suffered this when dealing with DOS and Novell networks remotely, but haven't had the pleasure of remotely doing a NeXT lately. there are those phone patch remote-reboot things you can buy (doubt they work w/ NeXTStep tho), but there is probably something funky with the system you're dialing into. does it work fine when you use it directly? probably get more answers at comp.sys.next.sysadmin sorry couldn't help more (or at all ;-) -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Viorel Chita <viorel@pathcom.com> Subject: Re: Anyone successfully get samba to compile? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <33788B50.4300@pathcom.com> Sender: news@news.wrc.xerox.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: XEROX Canada, Ltd. References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970511105141.2859P-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 15:40:00 GMT ** Craig Cook ** wrote: > > I'm trying to compile samba and the make process crashes once the linking > begins. > > Has anyone made it all the way through? If so - what compiler did you > use, and what makefile settings. > > thanks > Craig I've done it, long time ago; I may still have the makefiles and everything on my system. I recall I was using the native NeXTSTEP compiler (cc); I will check and send you the makefile and other changes made. -- ================================== Viorel Chita E-mail: viorel@pathcom.com ** NeXTmail, MIME mail welcome ** ==================================
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Can't ping router Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 03:20:40 -0400 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <337967C8.5843@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not getting a response when I ping my router and want to make sure everything is configured correctly with NEXTSTEP before concluding that the router is broken. When I enter 'netstat -rn' the computer returns: Routing tables Destination Gateway Flags Refs Use Interface 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 298 lo0 default 192.168.100.101 UG 0 0 en0 192.168.100 192.168.100.102 U 4 1280 en0 My router, an Ascend Pipeline 25 Px, has the address 192.168.100.101 and my computer's address is 192.168.100.102. When I ping the router, it hangs, not returning any packets. When I ping the computer, it returns all packets immediately. It also returns all packets immediately when I ping 192.168.100.0 and 192.168.100.255. Does anyone know if this is configured correctly? --Greg
From: rainer@wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 10:02:36 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Just came across this on the Apple WWDC site an thought I should share the experience with you ... not that it is a nice one :( > OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 for Windows NT--at around U.S.$1,500, per developer > version OPENSTEP Enterprise Deployment starts at around U.S.$12,899 per > server pack OPENSTEP Developer for Mach--U.S. $5,000 per developer version > OPENSTEP User for Mach--at around U.S. $800 per seat Enterprise Object > Frameworks (EOF) 2.1 for Mach--U.S. $500 per seat The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: andre@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Andre Schaefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,de.comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: miniSQL 2.0 and EOF 1.1 on Nextstep 3.3 ? Date: 14 May 1997 14:16:14 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5lchfe$htf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Keywords: miniSQL, EOF, Nextstep Hello everybody, who knows, or has tried, if the miniSQL Adapter for the EOF 1.1 will work with the latest miniSQL Server by Hughes Software? I build an EOF Applikation for my thesis in university. I have until now used the msql 1.0.16 distribution, which worked but lacked a lot of features I needed. My University does not own an Oracle Server or a Sybase one (just INFORMIX), so msql seems to be the only affordable option. msql 2.0 adresses many of the experienced problems, such as indexing of tables and textfields with variable length. So I'd like to use it. How can I integrate it in the Applikation without too much restructuring? ANY help will be useful. Please answer also by email, if possible... Cheers, Andre' Schaefer
From: Greg_Anderson@afs.com (Gregory H. Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 16:16:33 GMT Organization: Anderson Financial Systems Inc. Message-ID: <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Rainer Frohnher writes > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? You might want to try developing under OPENSTEP/NT before making a final judgment. It's not as bad as you think. And my experience is that writing for NT gives you the greatest portability; i.e., some code that runs on Mach still needs to be tweaked on NT, whereas NT-developed code almost always compiles clean on Mach. Now, as to the programmer's _user_ experience with the rest of the things surrounding the developer environment, I agree: give me OS/Mach anyday. And I do agree that the pricing differential is extreme. Seems to me that Apple is either trying to push people away from Mach, or they are trying to capture the value of the "total" OPENSTEP experience. -- Gregory H. Anderson | "I wander'd off by myself, In the Crystal Ball/Star Gazer | mystical moist night-air, and from Anderson Financial Systems | time to time, Look'd up in perfect greg@afs.com (NeXTmail OK) | silence at the stars." Walt Whitman
From: "Stephen R. Anderson" <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 14:07:41 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Linguistics, Yale University Message-ID: <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I didn't notice any mention of "academic bundle" pricing in Apple's press release about OS 4.2. Does anyone know if this policy will continue for 4.2 (and any future pre-rhapsody versions)? --Steve Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.org.ieee,comp.org.acm,comp.org.decus,comp.infosystems.www.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin,alt.privacy.anon-server,alt.security.keydist,comp.admin,comp.protocols.kerberos,comp.software.eng,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.next.misc From: jackson@usenix.org (Jackson Dodd) Subject: 7th USENIX Security Symposium - Call for Papers Message-ID: <EA6oF1.Ays@usenix.org> Keywords: USENIX, security, conference Organization: USENIX Association Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 18:23:25 GMT 7th USENIX Security Symposium January 26-29, 1998 Marriott Hotel - San Antonio, TX If you are a security practitioner, researcher, or programmer involved in the lastest advances in security and applications of cryptography, this conference will be of interest to you. There will be refereed papers, tutorials, BoFs, invited talks, Works-in-Progress, and panel sessions. We are seeking refereed papers on topics such as: * Adaptive security and system management * Analysis of malicious code * Applications of cryptographic techniques * Attacks against networks/machines * Computer misuse and anomaly detection * Copyright protection (technical solutions) * Cryptographic & other security tools * File and file system security * Network security * New firewall technologies * Security in heterogeneous environments * Security incident investigation and response * Security of Mobile Code * User/system authentication * World Wide Web security Paper submissions are due September 9, 1997. For more detailed information: - Visit the USENIX website at: http://www.usenix.org/sec - Read comp.org.usenix - Send email to our automatic mailserver at: info@usenix.org Your message should contain the line: "send security conferences" ================================================================= The USENIX Association brings together the community of engineers, system administrators, scientists, and technicians working on the cutting edge of computing. Its technical conferences are the essential meeting grounds for the presentation and discussion of the most advanced information on new developments in all aspects of advanced computing systems.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 14 May 1997 22:59:04 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ldg3o$43b$2@news2.digex.net> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit rainer@wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) wrote: > Just came across this on the Apple WWDC site an thought I should > share the experience with you ... not that it is a nice one :( > > OPENSTEP Enterprise 4.2 for Windows NT--at around U.S.$1,500, > > per developer version OPENSTEP Enterprise Deployment starts at > > around U.S.$12,899 per server pack OPENSTEP Developer for > > Mach--U.S. $5,000 per developer version OPENSTEP User for > > Mach--at around U.S. $800 per seat Enterprise Object Frameworks > > (EOF) 2.1 for Mach--U.S. $500 per seat > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of > the market! > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? What amazes me is...that I still get amazed by next/apple's CONSTANT ability to make the most MORONIC marketing decisions of all time. It's just shocking that I haven't been numbed by the constant shocks... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: QMAIL Date: 14 May 1997 23:43:45 GMT Organization: University of California, SF Message-ID: <5ldinh$14pq@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Anyone installed qmail on a NeXT Turbo? Please contact me. Thanks. john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu
From: lhow@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luke HOWARD) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: glib-c port Date: 15 May 1997 02:41:22 GMT Organization: Comp Sci, University of Melbourne Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ldt4i$dop@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> References: <5l5e42$k7f$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Stephen J. Perkins (perkins@netmass.com) wrote: : Seems if we had glib-c and the lastest GNU compiler, we'd have the same : compilation environment as is available in Linux. : Please let me know your thoughts on the undertaking of such a port. It would : be a large effort... do you think there is a need? It'd be a huge effort, methinks. Why not wait for BSD 4.4 in Rhaposdy? -- Luke
From: perkins@netmass.com (Stephen J. Perkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OS Upgrade and Mail count Date: 15 May 1997 04:04:24 GMT Organization: Netmass Communications Distribution: world Message-ID: <5le208$jpq$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> OK... the upgrade to 4.1 went semi successfully. I'm now battling the minor probs. Most of the major things are working again. One annoying problem I have is that the mail count in the mail.app icon is wrong. When I receive mail, it correctly tells me how many message are waiting. When I manually pull them over with the "get mail" button, the number in the icon doubles. Then, after I read the messages, the count doesn't change. I do have the latest enhance mail installed, but this problem manifested itself before I installed that. Thoughts on how to fix this? TIA, Steve --- ============================================================== Stephen J. Perkins | NetMass Communications | perkins@netmass.com NeXT OS3.3 with PPP-2.3 | NeXT PPP-2.3 info at: http://www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: miniSQL 2.0 and EOF 1.1 on Nextstep 3.3 From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 15 May 97 07:06:20 GMT Message-ID: <17497134.25580.6502@kcbbs.gen.nz> References: <5lchfe$htf$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand > msql 2.0 adresses many of the experienced problems, such as > indexing of tables and textfields with variable length. So I'd > like to use it. I don't think NeXTSTEP has the correct issue of the memory-moving/handling libraries to compile mSQL 2.0? Not oo sure, but check out the FAQ. Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr (Dominique SNYERS) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Turbo panic Date: 15 May 1997 08:37:00 GMT Organization: ENST de Bretagne, Brest FRANCE Message-ID: <5lehvc$ak9@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> We have a Color Turbo Next here and it has been refusing to reboot for a few weeks. We got the following message: unexpected kernel page Fault failure Trap: type 0x410 fcode 5 rw 3 fault addr 0x46 trap: pc 0x4034c08 sp 0x0 sr 0x2208 trap: cpu 0 th 0x0 proc 0xffffffpid -1 pcb 0x0 traceback ... panic: (cpu0) MMU invalid descriptor during table walk. Any idea about what we should do? Is it a hardware problem? We tryied to reboot from the CD and it does not work either. Advice are welcome even by email Dom Snyers -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Laboratoire d'Intelligence Artificielle et Sciences Cognitives (LIASC) Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications de Bretagne BP 832 29285 BREST CEDEX FRANCE Tel: (33) 2 98 00 14 31 email: Dominique.Snyers@enst-bretagne.fr
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 15 May 1997 10:12:55 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Cc: Greg_Anderson@afs.com In <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> Gregory H. Anderson wrote: > Rainer Frohnher writes > > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? > Apple needs to be aware of the economies of increasing returns that operate in the technical sector, i.e. market share is everything. Increasing market share is the only means for survival. Which means that Apple needs to count revenue losses due to INSANELY LOW PRICES for OpenStep 4.2/Mach as capitalization costs. By "insanely low prices" I mean $299 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User/Developer Commercial $99 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User Commercial $99 for OpenStep 4.2/Mach User/Developer Academic bundle Generating EXCITEMENT is more important now than immediate revenues. And these prices would generate excitement. Because Rhapsody will soon make 4.2 obsolete with its additional integrated Macintosh technology, there will be substantial upgrade revenue once Rhapsody comes out. The larger number of users/developers that were seeded with cheap 4.2 will, I aver, generate more revenue than the foolish NeXT, Inc.ish prices we see now. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: jeff@tiag.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Control: cancel <5lenj7$pfq$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Date: 15 May 1997 13:39:45 GMT Organization: Great Works Internet Message-ID: <5lf3n1$h4h@noc1.gwi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cancel
From: Gerard Tromp <tromp@sanger.med.wayne.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 11:36:18 -0400 Organization: CMMG, Wayne State University Message-ID: <337B2D72.20F8@sanger.med.wayne.edu> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John D. Kaminsky wrote: > > > You do the maths. 50,000 MFlops divided by 16382 gives 3.05 MFlops > > per CPU. Which is what Ling said. > > Wherever he got this information I have no idea. Cray's biggest machine > to date is 4096 processors, currently being built for Los Alamos > National Lab to model Nuclear explosions. According to Cray, a current > T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. The > T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated performance > of >1 TeraFlop. You guys shouldn't get so crabby about math when the > information you are starting with is totally bogus. Absolutely agree with you, though it is more difficult for most of us to check the veracity of the original information. The original respondent to the false info displayed a "bad attitude" taking the original poster to task for perceived mathematical error (arithmetical error really), so the general response was focused on the bad attitude and arithmetic. Gerard -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Gerard Tromp, Ph.D. CMMG, Wayne State University vox: 313-577-8773 3116, Scott Hall fax: 313-577-5218 540 E Canfield Ave e-mail: tromp@sanger.med.wayne.edu Detroit, MI 48201 gtromp@cmb.biosci.wayne.edu
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: miniSQL 2.0 and EOF 1.1 on Nextstep 3.3 Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 14:39:46 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EA88qB.9z5@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <17497134.25580.6502@kcbbs.gen.nz> In article <17497134.25580.6502@kcbbs.gen.nz> writes: > > msql 2.0 adresses many of the experienced problems, such as > > indexing of tables and textfields with variable length. So I'd > > like to use it. > > I don't think NeXTSTEP has the correct issue of the > memory-moving/handling libraries to compile mSQL 2.0? Not oo sure, but > check out the FAQ. This isn't necessarily a problem, as it would be no trouble (and may be beneficial) to actually run mSQL on another non-NeXT machine (and it's probably no more than a few hours porting anyway). The big question will the ADAPTOR work - the short answer is almost certainly not (I admit I'm guessing), but I too would be VERY intereted in running mSQL2.0 as a backend to an EOF app (I'm currently prototyping something for which mSQL1 isn't quite good enough, while 2.0 might be fill a big gap - to the extent that this app could become viable). I guess the bottom line is, is anyone interested in rewritting the 1.0 adaptor to work with 2.0? I'd be tempted to try if no one else will, but obviously the original authors would be more appropriate. Also I'm still on NeXTStep 3.3 and the old version of EOF that shipped with it - an OpenStep/EOF2 version may be more appropriate. $an
From: see@address.in.signature (Martin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 10:20:56 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> In article <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com>, Greg_Anderson@afs.com wrote: > Rainer Frohnher writes > > [NT developer pricing down, Mach pricing still very high] > > The only environment to develop on, and they price it out of the market! > > Do they really believe I will buy NT for this? > > You might want to try developing under OPENSTEP/NT before making a final > judgment. It's not as bad as you think. And my experience is that writing > for NT gives you the greatest portability; i.e., some code that runs on > Mach still needs to be tweaked on NT, whereas NT-developed code almost > always compiles clean on Mach. And for a lot less money, you can get yourself a used NeXT computer w/ NeXTSTEP 3.2 installed, start developing, and then migrate to Rhapsody as it becomes available. You might actually find a used NeXT station w/ NeXTSTEP/Mach 4.x on it. If you're lucky enough to have gone to WWDC, then you'll have the software for free. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Academic Pricing Has _NOT_ changed for 4.2 (was Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!!) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:55:29 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> Sorry for the xpost, but I don't know where this thread has spawned ---->FOLLOWUPS set to csn.misc<---- I called the number on http://product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1997/q3/970513.pr.rel.openstep.html#OPENSTEP "The OPENSTEP family of products are available direct from Apple Computer, Inc. For sales information call 1-800-879-6398." (aka "try-next") I went through their little voicemail hoops for find out about the academic bundle only to get a message to call Object Technologies (which doesn't exist). So I called back and stayed "on the line for further information" (pressed #4) and talked with a woman who I told about the wrong 800# and then she put me over to the telemarketing folks. The woman I talked with there (whose name I did not get) said that I should contact my bookstore. When I informed her that my bookstore had never heard of NeXT or OpenStep, she said that it would all go through NACS corp (www.nacscorp.com). OpenStep 4.2 was officially released Tuesday, but she did not know how long it would take to get through to the academic sources. (It is not yet listed on NACS' web pages) She confirmed that the academic pricing has not changed, it is still $299 for user & dev. I called NACS-corp (1-800-622-7498 x2573 for inbound sales) and they said it will take "a few weeks" before it gets to them. She said that as far as she knew the pricing had not changed but (she also said) that doesn't mean much as it could change when it arrives. So there we have it folks, the pricing for OpenStep/Academic seems to have remained the same, but (for the overly cynical) it will be a few weeks before anyone can say for sure. TjL, your friendly neighborhood 800# dialing, horse's-mouth seeking, OpenStep likin' Usenet reader...
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From: dvit@ip.pt (Diogo Vitorino) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: 16 May 1997 00:24:05 GMT Organization: ILHA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dvit-1605970127080001@pm-lx-1-03.net.ip.pt> References: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> In article <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com>, psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) wrote: > As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, > ethernet that is. > > The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean > New OS install. > > The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank > 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! >..... I actually have more or less the same problem with a Turbo Color station. Please help!
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic Pricing Has _NOT_ changed for 4.2 (was Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!!) Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 16:26:25 -0700 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <337B9B9C.44CD@earthlink.net> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > She confirmed that the academic pricing has not changed, it is still $299 > for user & dev. Sounds like it would be worth it to go register at a Community Collge somewhere for a hundred or so bucks and order that bundle!
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Turbo panic Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 20:55:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515205507.29652A-100000@kira> References: <5lehvc$ak9@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dominique SNYERS <snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr> In-Reply-To: <5lehvc$ak9@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> Try replacing the RAM Just a guess, TjL
From: Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 00:35:06 -0400 Organization: IDT Message-ID: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will eventually integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that I have with this is that dreaded White manubar strip. In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common menubar is not the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window menubar. Under this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here are the reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme 1. Rhapsody incorporates the The protected memory and multiprocesses architecture. This means that one can have several instances of the same applications running concurrently, since each application would be treated as a process itself. Under the current common menu bar scheme, it would be difficult to determine which instance of the application is currently active by looking at the menu bar. Using the common menu bar with several instances of the same application can be counter intuitive. Even now, it is hard to differentiate which application the menu is currently representing. This has resulted in numerous frustrations when one accidentally quits the wrong application. 2. Treating each process as an "object". It makes sense that the menubar should belong to the application and not to the desktop. The menubar in the application's window acts the interface. To me, this is a more elegant approach to UI desgin. Currently, there are many Mac applications, like Netscape that have adopted the windowing menubar scheme. In fact, with the exception of AmigaOS, the rest of the GUI's out there, adopts the windowing scheme. 3. The window menu can be very useful in a large resolution screen, users would not have to go all the way to the top of the screen to select the menu options. Just go to the window of the application and click. Well, to be fair. There are certainly advantages associated with the common bar like space-saving, better for smaller resolution, a more classical mac look and feel, yadi, yadi, yada.... But I think that an advanced operating system like Rhapsody deserves a more elegant UI implementation and the window menubar takes the experience of using the GUI one level up. So if you are like me who distest the common menu bar, shout it out to Apple's ears. Samuel Chow
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 16 May 1997 04:52:30 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> In-Reply-To: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> No. There was the original, an international version, and an unreleased version with a cool scripting language. There was an attempt at an Intel version as well and also a MacOS version but it never really got off the ground. A Windows 3.1 version did ship but was unsucessful in the marketplace. Your best bet is Quantrix by Lighthouse Design. Robert On 05/08/97, Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz wrote: >Was a version of Lotus Improv offered for Intel NeXTStep? If so, how can one >obtain a copy? -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 16 May 1997 04:57:27 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5lgpfn$fci@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> In-Reply-To: <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Oh yeah, trivia time... Here are the code names for all the Improv versions... Product Name Code Name ============ ========= Improv 2.0 for Windows Blue Marlin Improv 2.0 for MacOS Red Marlin Improv 2.0 for NEXTSTEP Black Marlin Improv 1.0 for NEXTSTEP BackBay Improv Scripting Language Oakum Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Turbo panic Date: 16 May 1997 05:16:35 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <18BCBADCEA4A8F54.4AF2ECB68D575EDA.A9D5555ECE32FFD0@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <5lehvc$ak9@alfali.enst-bretagne.fr> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On 15 May 1997 08:37:00 GMT, Dominique SNYERS <snyers@yosemite.enst-bretagne.fr> wrote: > We have a Color Turbo Next here and it has been refusing to reboot > for a few weeks. > [...kernel panic messages...] > Any idea about what we should do? > Is it a hardware problem? > We tryied to reboot from the CD and it does not work either. I used to have smiliar kernel panics on my ND Turbo Cube on almost every cold boot, while booting from the ROM monitor after the panic works fine. Can you boot at all? If you can boot after the panic, then try to get a new battery from your local camera shop, that seems to have fixed mine. [In the US, the battery is called something like xx123.] liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 16 May 1997 02:14:57 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5lgu11$nrm@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> In article <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will > eventually integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that > I have with this is that dreaded White manubar strip. Me too. > In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common > menubar is not the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate > the Window menubar. Ugh. That's one of the worst features of Windows. > 1. Rhapsody incorporates the The protected memory and multiprocesses > architecture. This means that one can have several instances of the same > applications running concurrently, since each application would be treated > as a process itself. Under the current common menu bar scheme, it would be > difficult to determine which instance of the application is currently active > by looking at the menu bar. True. But no one ever runs multiple instances of one app. > 2. Treating each process as an "object". It makes sense that the menubar > should belong to the application and not to the desktop. But there are many operations that do not apply to a specific window. If you have different kinds of windows, which ones get which menu items? With the menu-on-window approach, you're forced to single out one window as your "main" window. This is often inelegant. I know of a number of NEXTSTEP apps that don't even open up a window at launch time. Yet you can still access functionality from the menu. > Currently, there are many Mac applications, like Netscape that have > adopted the windowing menubar scheme. Those are largely applications that originated on Windows. > In fact, with the exception of AmigaOS, the > rest of the GUI's out there, adopts the windowing scheme. That's because all the other GUI's are shoddy and make the application handle everything itself, so it has no choice but to draw into its own windows for menus. > 3. The window menu can be very useful in a large resolution screen, > users would not have to go all the way to the top of the screen to select > the menu options. Just go to the window of the application and click. Global menus that pop up on a right mouse click are even faster, and you can't do those if your menus are tied to windows. Plus, there are always floating menus. I'm unhappy that Apple is chucking NEXTSTEP's clearly superior menu system.. > But I think that an advanced operating system like Rhapsody > deserves a more elegant UI implementation and the window menubar takes > the experience of using the GUI one level up. > So if you are like me who distest the common menu bar, shout it out to > Apple's ears. I think virtually everyone here will disagree with you that Windows menus are superior.
From: alex@_nospam_EagleChair.com (Aleksei M. Kac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 01:34:19 -0500 Organization: Web Information Solutions Message-ID: <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> In article <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: : Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, : : Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will : eventually : integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that I have : with : this is that dreaded White manubar strip. : : In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common : menubar is not : the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window : menubar. Under : this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here : are the : reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme I actually abhor the Window menu bar...it uses up so much real estate (and I have plenty with a 20'' monitor) and just makes the the screen look so ugly. I instinctively reach for the menu bar at the top of the screen now...if I don't know where the menu bar is, then that is annoying. I say let the user decide: menu bar in window, NeXT style menu bar, Mac style Menu bar. I like both the NeXT and Mac styles. -- Web Information Solutions <http://www.ProMotors.com/wis.html> <mailto:alex@EagleChair.com> Just take the _spam_ out of my email to reply...
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic Pricing Has _NOT_ changed for 4.2 (was Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!!) Date: 16 May 1997 07:53:38 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5lh3q2$or3@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> Hello NeXT/ Apple Community: For those of you that are looking for an alternative less adventuresome route for purchasing yes NeXTSTEP 3.3 or Openstep 4.2 Academic Bundles without having to jump through hoops and tangle with Voice Mail that points to no where, Bookstores, Nacscorp ... I offer an alternative service to the NeXT community because I care... Academic Bundles are available for $319 and Shipping . Why $319? I'm actually importing the Academic Bundles from Europe, this helps cover my cost of freight , import duties , taxes, keeping the lights on, web page up, etc. and helps keep Openstep Academic bundles alive and makes them easy to find! I'm told these Academic bundles are well traveled they go from the USA to the somewhere in the Netherlands (by Submarine?) through the UK (by Elephant?) and back to the good old USA (by Concord then Wagon Train?) until they reach the sales offices of Black Hole Incorporated located in Denver, CO. Sounds kind of like a typical complicated government operation and I always have had fun working with the NeXT community, why stop now and what the heck somebody had to stand up to the challenge, might as well be me. I sold 8.. 3.3 Bundles today and only have 2 left in stock, I plan on reordering and actually having 4.2 bundles for the most part on hand when they become available provided the complicated but functional distribution channel remains intact. Sound Good? To Qualify: First you must have a desire to purchase the bundles easily. Then you must currently be Academic. IE Student, Faculty or Staff and will have to provide a ledgible photocopy of of your ID and students will have to provide proof that they are currently enrolled ie registration card, paystub , tuition bill, report card. Further details including an academic order form will be outlined on the Web page at http://www.blackholeinc.com/ , please do not use the planned online Cyberpay option until your order has been preapproved. All Orders will be audited to insure their authenticity by our friends in the UK via NeXTmail. To view work in progress on the page check out http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ Fortunately for those of you that are interested in Commercial NeXT software , we can supply that from Apple/ NeXT directly and can provide full license, user / developer upgrades, web objects, eof, etc. ... the reason for the round the world route for the Academic Bundle is NACSCORP will only sell directly to bookstores, it is written in stone.. I am continuing to try and establish a business relationship with NACSCORP and have made an effort to explain that I have been doing this for 4 years successfully for other companies. Best Regards Rob Blessin Email : bhi1@ix.netcom.com , with any questions ! ETA Mid June for 4.2 Our offices will be closed from the May 24 through June 2, but we will be checking voice mail from Florida. On 05/15/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > >Sorry for the xpost, but I don't know where this thread has spawned > >---->FOLLOWUPS set to csn.misc<---- > >I called the number on > >http://product.info.apple.com/pr/press.releases/1997/q3/970513.pr.rel ..openstep.html#OPENSTEP > >"The OPENSTEP family of products are available direct from Apple Computer, >Inc. For sales information call 1-800-879-6398." (aka "try-next") > >I went through their little voicemail hoops for find out about the >academic bundle only to get a message to call Object Technologies (which >doesn't exist). So I called back and stayed "on the line for further >information" (pressed #4) and talked with a woman who I told about the >wrong 800# and then she put me over to the telemarketing folks. > >The woman I talked with there (whose name I did not get) said that I >should contact my bookstore. When I informed her that my bookstore had >never heard of NeXT or OpenStep, she said that it would all go through >NACS corp (www.nacscorp.com). OpenStep 4.2 was officially released >Tuesday, but she did not know how long it would take to get through to the >academic sources. (It is not yet listed on NACS' web pages) > >She confirmed that the academic pricing has not changed, it is still $299 >for user & dev. > >I called NACS-corp (1-800-622-7498 x2573 for inbound sales) and they said >it will take "a few weeks" before it gets to them. She said that as far >as she knew the pricing had not changed but (she also said) that doesn't >mean much as it could change when it arrives. > >So there we have it folks, the pricing for OpenStep/Academic seems to have >remained the same, but (for the overly cynical) it will be a few weeks >before anyone can say for sure. > >TjL, your friendly neighborhood 800# dialing, horse's-mouth seeking, >OpenStep likin' Usenet reader... > > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 http://www.blackholeinc.com/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: OS Upgrade and Mail count Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:54:43 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515075348.28933D-100000@kira> References: <5le208$jpq$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@netmass.com> In-Reply-To: <5le208$jpq$1@tilde.csc.ti.com> Heh heh.... I reported this same thing to csn.bugs about a week ago It's a known bug when you have manual mailfetching turned on. I turned it off and set the mailfetch time to 1 minute. Seems to be fine since then. TjL
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From: Colin Stock <colin.stock@gecm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: 16 May 1997 10:49:24 GMT Organization: GEC Marconi Inflight Systems Message-ID: <5lhe3k$qnr@gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <337B2D72.20F8@sanger.med.wayne.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gerard Tromp <tromp@sanger.med.wayne.edu> wrote: >John D. Kaminsky wrote: >> >> According to Cray, a current >> T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. >> The T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated >> performance >> of >1 TeraFlop. > Thats all very well but how fast does it run Quake?? -- ========================================================== Colin Stock e-mail: colin.stock@gecm.com EASAMS Ltd. Tel: +44 (1705) 226550 One person's 'common sense approach' is another's 'daft idea'
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OS 4.2 vfat32? multisession cdrom? 8bit color dithering? Date: 16 May 1997 11:01:34 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <5lheqe$fja$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> does OPENSTEP 4.2 incude those features? that is: -does it mount vfat(32) filesystems and operate on the long filenames? -does it mount all sessions of multisession cd-roms? -is the 8-bit color display mode of the same quality as NS3.3's? (OS4.0 and 4.1 have a sort of broken 8-bit color mode - compare the color graduations in the color panel!) thanks for any answer, daniel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Message-ID: <1997May16.101757.47505@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch Date: 16 May 97 10:17:57 MET References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, > > Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will > eventually > integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that I have > with > this is that dreaded White manubar strip. > > In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common > menubar is not > the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window > menubar. Under I don't agree. Though I completely distaste the horizontal menubar (it is difficult to extend if there isn't enough screen space) I certainly want to keep a common menu. I would very much like to see the NEXTSTEP menu bar on Rhapsody as it has a very consistant scheme. The menu is always vertical. All submenus are vertical. It can easily be extended (the height of the text is much less than the width) and will autoscroll if to high for a given screen. It can be moved to any convenient place and, furthermore, it can be taken off screen and yet still accessed by clicking a mouse button. > this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here > are the > reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme > > 1. Rhapsody incorporates the The protected memory and multiprocesses > architecture. This means that one can have several instances of the same > applications running > concurrently, since each application would be treated as a process > itself. Under > the current common menu bar scheme, it would be difficult to determine > which > instance of the application is currently active by looking at the menu > bar. Using > the common menu bar with several instances of the same application can > be counter > intuitive. Even now, it is hard to differentiate which application the > menu is currently representing. This has resulted in numerous > frustrations when one accidentally quits the wrong application. It is true that running several instances of the same program will cause problems, but how often do you *have* to run several instances on the same screen? I only do this when accessing remote systems and displaying on the local screen (eg. when running as root). In almost all other situations, running several instances of the same program are simply not necessary. > 2. Treating each process as an "object". It makes sense that the menubar > should > belong to the application and not to the desktop. > [...] All right, and what about items that don't belong to the "object" but to the program, such as open, create, ...??? These would have to be replicated, but then they don't quite fit to the program. Under Xwindows (which is gastly), many vendors would create a separate window with these menu items - this is silly. The NEXTSTEP approach is *much* more consistant. Also the idea of changing the entries according to the context is an excellent idea. > 3. The window menu can be very useful in a large resolution screen, > users would not > have to go all the way to the top of the screen to select the menu > options. > Just go to the window of the application and click. This argument has been discussed in other threads and, according to my opinion, quite correctly been dismissed as meaningless. Most commands have keyboard shortcuts, and under NEXTSTEP you could place the menu right under the mouse button - no need to even have to go to the top of the window. > Well, to be fair. There are certainly advantages associated with the > common bar like > space-saving, better for smaller resolution, a more classical mac look > and feel, > yadi, yadi, yada.... But I think that an advanced operating system like > Rhapsody > deserves a more elegant UI implementation with that I do agree ... > and the window menubar takes > the experience > of using the GUI one level up. No, in my opinion, one down! > [...] > Samuel Chow -Robert -- Institut fuer Informatik tel +41 (0)61 321 99 67 Universitaet Basel fax. +41 (0)61 321 99 15 Robert Frank Mittlere Strasse 142 rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT,MIME mail ok) CH-4056 Basel X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch Switzerland
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 16 May 1997 12:20:32 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5lhjeg$ckb$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <5lgu11$nrm@sps1.phys.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <5lgu11$nrm@sps1.phys.vt.edu> On 05/16/97, Nathan Urban wrote: >I think virtually everyone here will disagree with you that Windows >menus are superior. > I certainly will... I would prefer to retain the current NEXTSTEP menu system, however faced with a choice between the current MacOS way and the Windows system Samuel is advocating I'd take the MacOS way without a second thought. I get the feeling Samuel hasn't used NEXTSTEP, or any other proper multitasking system... Best wishes, mmalc. -- Malcolm Crawford (NeXTmail) malcolm@plsys.co.uk Tel: +44 (0)1494 432422 P & L Systems Fax: +44 (0)1494 432478 http://www.plsys.co.uk/~malcolm
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: DON'T POST THIS TO comp.sys.next.misc (Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip) Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:39:51 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970516063506.957C-100000@kira> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> In-Reply-To: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Don't post this to comp.sys.next.misc ! Keep this in the advocacy groups! We've seen and read enough of this stuff, it's just speculation and rumor and guessing and replying to it will just fill up newsfeeds with idle speculation TjL
From: Samuel Chow <Sam.Chow@analog.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 10:50:12 -0400 Organization: analog.com Message-ID: <337C7424.484A@analog.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > On 05/16/97, Nathan Urban wrote: > > >I think virtually everyone here will disagree with you that Windows > >menus are superior. > > > I certainly will... I would prefer to retain the current NEXTSTEP menu > system, however faced with a choice between the current MacOS way and the > Windows system Samuel is advocating I'd take the MacOS way without a second > thought. > > I get the feeling Samuel hasn't used NEXTSTEP, or any other proper > multitasking system... > You are wrong, I do use the NeXTstep. To be honest, I don't mind the NeXTstep style menu system at all. In fact, I think that it is a good compromise between the common menu bar like the Mac's and the typical window menu system that Windows and X uses. The point I am trying to make is that true that window menu does take up a lot of estate but at the same time it can be confusing at times, which application the menu bar the system is representing. That's my biggest complain about Apple menu bar. To me, NeXT style menu system is more of a window menu system although it does incorporate the global menu features to enhance the use. That I accept. But I still think that Apple white menu bar should be gotten rid of. Later, Samuel Chow
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Improv for Intel? Date: 16 May 1997 16:38:40 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <5li2ig$k9p$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <5ksefn$t1e@usenet85.supernews.com> <5lgp6e$evh@fridge-nf0.shore.net> <5lgpfn$fci@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote: >Oh yeah, trivia time... Here are the code names for all the Improv >versions... > >Product Name Code Name >============ ========= > >Improv 2.0 for Windows Blue Marlin >Improv 2.0 for MacOS Red Marlin >Improv 2.0 for NEXTSTEP Black Marlin >Improv 1.0 for NEXTSTEP BackBay >Improv Scripting Language Oakum > >Robert Oakum??!! That was good for a laugh... --Ryan
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 16 May 1997 17:25:41 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5li5al$lvg$1@news.platinum.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Cc: samchow@idt.net Please, if there is a God at Apple, please, please, please, let this be a user preference at least. Don't force the hideous Global Menu Bar on those of us who have moved beyond it. (The window menu bar prefered by Sam, of course, is just as hideous, but it could be a preference too...) /gary In <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> it appeared that Samuel Chow wrote: > Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, > > Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will > eventually > integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that I have > with > this is that dreaded White manubar strip. > -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: ilk@mindspring.com (Chris Mullins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXT CUBE FOR SALE Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:27:50 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <337cb52a.20250335@news.mindspring.com> NEXT CUBE FOR SALE I have a NeXt cube with one system board for sale. It comes with: 2 17” Megapixel Monitors 1 N2000 Laser Printer Mouse and Keyboard. Cost is $499 Plus Shipping. I am not familiar with NeXt and can not tell you much about it, It has the NeXt mach OS and seems to have software still on it. I have the monitor cable (special ordered) but do not have a cable for the printer. All items are in excellent condition. It was being used at GaTech before I bought it. If you have any questions please call me at 770.420.5202 -Chris Mullins I also have 19” Fixed Scan Monitors for sale. Made by Hitachi: they come with a 128 Bit PCI Accelerator with 2.26 MB of ram. I am selling these at $549 plus shipping.
From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE!#!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Fri, 16 May 97 22:43:16 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5lino7$9dm$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!!
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From: tbrown@netset.com (Ted Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 22:57:42 -0400 Organization: NetSet Internet Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <tbrown-1605972257420001@ppp068.dialup.cmh.netset.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <5li5al$lvg$1@news.platinum.com> In article <5li5al$lvg$1@news.platinum.com>, gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) wrote: >Please, if there is a God at Apple, please, please, please, let this be a >user preference at least. Don't force the hideous Global Menu Bar on those >of us who have moved beyond it. > >(The window menu bar prefered by Sam, of course, is just as hideous, but it >could be a preference too...) > >/gary I hope the Apple takes a look at using NeXT style menus for Blue Box apps. If they can get it to work well, then it's a viable option to do away with the main menu bar. Otherwise, it'll have to be there while running MacOS apps. The real answers come from how well Blue Box and OpenStep apps can interact. Do Blue Box apps put windows in a "MacOS Desktop Window", or are they indistinguishable from OpenStep apps? If they are all locked in one window, then the mac menubar should be constrained to that window. Apple's already admited that the seam between the blue box and OpenStep will show. I'm for blatant cognitve signs of what's a MacOS app and what's a NeXT app. Anything else will confuse the user *more*,as they'll wonder why they can't drag and drop between certain apps. -- To get random signatures put text files into a folder called ³Random Signatures² into your Preferences folder.
From: Denis Tumpic <dtumpic@gemsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 16:56:26 -0400 Organization: gemsoft Message-ID: <337CC9FA.3413D312@gemsoft.com> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <337B2D72.20F8@sanger.med.wayne.edu> <5lhe3k$qnr@gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Colin Stock wrote: > > Gerard Tromp <tromp@sanger.med.wayne.edu> wrote: > >John D. Kaminsky wrote: > >> > >> According to Cray, a current > >> T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. > >> The T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated >> performance > >> of >1 TeraFlop. > > > Thats all very well but how fast does it run Quake?? > Approx. 500k frames per second. Slow isn't it? - I had to do it!
From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Academic Pricing Has _NOT_ changed for 4.2 (was Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!!) Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 23:04:12 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <337D202C.DE49F7CC@fas.harvard.edu> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <see-1505971020560001@204.191.6.56> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515092352.14650A-100000@kira> <337B9B9C.44CD@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Steve Kellener wrote: > Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > She confirmed that the academic pricing has not changed, it is still > $299 > > for user & dev. > > Sounds like it would be worth it to go register at a Community Collge > somewhere for a hundred or so bucks and order that bundle! You mean I'm not the only one ;-)
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From: "Margaret" <margaret@osgcorp.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.objective-c,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,dc.jobs Subject: NeXTSTEP Consultant Openings Date: 17 May 1997 05:51:00 GMT Organization: OnRamp Technologies, Inc.; ISP Message-ID: <01bc6287$0b9125a0$70c832ce@margaret.onramp.net> NeXTSTEP MENTORS AND DEVELOPERS Object Systems Group is a OO technology-based consultancy that provides assistance to Global 1000 corporations. These clients have already made the commitment to move to objects. That means that we can offer you the opportunity to build robust infrastructures, develop good designs, and direct state of the art implementations for large scale OO projects. Our Chief Technical Officer is Bruce Webster who has been involved in software engineering for 20 years and in commercial Object Oriented Development since 1989. Bruce has written numerous articles in technical publications and has also contributed to more than a dozen commerical software products. His most recent books are The Art of Ware and The Pitfalls of Object-Oriented Development. Because OSG has a proven successful OO process and a reputation for excellence, we can keep you progressing in OO technology while you are making contractors wages. OSG pays well, offers good benefits, and requires a minimum one year commitment. Please visit our Web Site at http://www.osgcorp.com PROCESS MENTORS Minimum five years total experience with one year NeXTStep or OpenStep. You will participate in the development of Object Models and will perform all the analysis and design functions for your team as well as educate team members in process, methods, and techniques. TECHNICAL MENTORS Minimum three years experience in NeXTSTEP with at least one of those in a Mentoring role. Also must have strong knowledge or experience with one or more OO Methodologies. NeXTSTEP and or OpenStep Developers If you have a minimum of 2 years experience in a NeXTSTEP environment at any level, we want to talk to you. The project is a new development (no legacy issues). All work must be done on-site. Email resume(No NeXTMAIL accepted) and current salary info in Word, TEXT, or ASCII to: margaret@osgcorp.com
From: julian @ whitetower.demon.co.uk (Julian Regel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 16:06:44 GMT Message-ID: <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> alex@_nospam_EagleChair.com (Aleksei M. Kac) wrote: >I say let the user decide: menu bar in window, NeXT style menu bar, Mac >style Menu bar. > > >I like both the NeXT and Mac styles. I like the Acorn RISC OS method (www.acorn.co.uk): There isn't a global menu bar at all. If you want access to the menu, click the second mouse button and a context sensitive menu pops up. I know apps like Netscape support context sensitive menus but the Acorn ones are the *only* menus. Saves screen space and means the user doesn't have to trek to the top of the screen. Julian
From: Ken MacLeod <ken@bitsko.slc.ut.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 17 May 1997 10:29:29 -0500 Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Sender: ken@biff.bitsko.slc.ut.us Message-ID: <m3lo5eqfqd.fsf@biff.bitsko.slc.ut.us> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <337C7424.484A@analog.com> Samuel Chow <Sam.Chow@analog.com> writes: > window menu system that Windows and X uses. The point I am trying to > make is that true that window menu does take up a lot of estate but > at the same time it can be confusing at times, which application the > menu bar the system is representing. That's my biggest complain about > Apple menu bar. As a heavy user of "focus follows mouse" under X, it's obvious that a single menu wouldn't work for my preference. But I would never, willingly, give up that screenspace to put menus on each window, that's my biggest complaint with Motif. I think the single menu (vertical or horizontal, I don't see the big difference) is just fine the way it is, the single menu follows the "active" app. What I would like is that when I click the menu-button I get the menu of the app I'm pointing to, not the "active" app. > at the same time it can be confusing at times, which application the > menu bar the system is representing. That's my biggest complain about hmm, that's never been a problem for me. I've always felt the indication of the "active" app to be very clear. -- Ken MacLeod ken@bitsko.slc.ut.us
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Compiling off of NeXT Developer CD-ROM Date: 17 May 1997 23:24:50 GMT Organization: University of California, SF Message-ID: <5lleo2$vvg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> I have a small hard drive in my NeXT Turbo and don't have the 3.2 Developer environment installed. Can I link the NeXTStep Developer CD-ROM to the boot drive so that I can direct the compiler to search the directories on the CD-ROM for needed header files, etc, when compiling from source files? IOW can I use the CD-ROM to compile, even if it will be considerably slower? If so, what would the compile command look like? eg: romdas# cc ??? <filename.c> Thanks. John
From: buckley4@mail.idt.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 17 May 1997 23:50:48 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5llg8o$59m@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> On 05/17/97, Julian Regel wrote: >alex@_nospam_EagleChair.com (Aleksei M. Kac) wrote: > >>I say let the user decide: menu bar in window, NeXT style menu bar, Mac >>style Menu bar. >> >> >>I like both the NeXT and Mac styles. > >I like the Acorn RISC OS method (www.acorn.co.uk): There isn't a >global menu bar at all. If you want access to the menu, click the >second mouse button and a context sensitive menu pops up. I know apps >like Netscape support context sensitive menus but the Acorn ones are >the *only* menus. Saves screen space and means the user doesn't have >to trek to the top of the screen. > >Julian > In NEXTSTEP, I put the active menu in the lower right hand corner, as a way to tell at a glance which app is active, but use the pop-up menu almost exclusively. On rare occasions I have to grab the menu out of the corner to tear off a menu strip, but back it goes for several more months. So in practice, I vote for no menues unless you ask for them. -- _________________________________________ Paul Buckley 515 W 59th St., Apt. 22K New York, NY 10019 E-mail: buckley4@mail.idt.net Tel/Fax: 212-333-3382 _________________________________________
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 18 May 1997 01:07:32 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5llkok$ag8$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <1997May16.101757.47505@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> <337DFFAE.2122@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <337DFFAE.2122@earthlink.net> On 05/17/97, Steve Kellener wrote: >Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: >>The only problem that I have with this is that dreaded White manubar strip. > >They stated on the webcast that the desktop will use "plug-ins" so that >you may write your own custom looks. The "Finder/Workspace Manager" will alow plug-ins. (The Finder is the window where you do file browsing and selection.) This is quite different from being able to customize the entire desktop including the menu bar. >STEVE K. > > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiling off of NeXT Developer CD-ROM Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 21:11:24 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0nTZQwS00iV1M1Ke0u@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5lleo2$vvg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 17-May-97 Compiling off of NeXT Devel.. by john@romdas.HIP.berkeley > I have a small hard drive in my NeXT Turbo and don't have the 3.2 > Developer environment installed. Can I link the NeXTStep Developer CD-ROM > to the boot drive so that I can direct the compiler to search the > directories on the CD-ROM for needed header files, etc, when compiling > from source files? IOW can I use the CD-ROM to compile, even if it will be > considerably slower? I assume you have the original, single-speed NeXT CD-ROM drive? You probably could, but you _really_ don't want to try this. The CD-ROM is going to be somewhere on the order of 10 to 25 times slower than compiling with the developer system on a hard drive. If that doesn't phaze you, then you'd probably have to link /lib, /usr/lib, and /NextDeveloper to the CD-ROM, and create the appropriate link between /usr/include and /NextDeveloper/Headers. > If so, what would the compile command look like? > > eg: romdas# cc ??? <filename.c> Basic compiler usage would be 'cc -o executable filename.c', but non-trivial programs are built using Makefiles, which you invoke via 'make'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
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From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:57:54 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <337DFFAE.2122@earthlink.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <1997May16.101757.47505@yogi.urz.unibas.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: >The only problem that I have with this is that dreaded White manubar strip. They stated on the webcast that the desktop will use "plug-ins" so that you may write your own custom looks. STEVE K.
From: blissful@beautified Subject: good humor Organization: fler-= Message-ID: <vp4uwHqY8GA.214@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 02:08:52 -0700 x-no-archive:yes For who use pictures to communicate: please click on http://www.webcom.com/h49tld20/photo/prolab.html
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Date: 18 May 1997 03:57:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re:Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 18:40:52 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: <tim-1805971840520001@tdanaher.demon.co.uk> >Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: >>The only problem that I have with this is that dreaded White manubar strip. If i can add my tuppence worth here : The menu bar debate is very indicative of a certain mindset at Apple. It was invented as a solution operating on a 9" screen. Back then it made sense. As screen sizes increased it became less relevant and more of a hindrance. On anything over 16" it is absurd. However Apple have spent thousands and thousands of dollars on research to show that this is the _only_ solution in terms of usability. My Mac is set up to provide a similar solution to NeXT's pop-up system (using 3rd party utilities). It's a kludge, but it's much easier. However the sheer consistency and design thoroughness of NeXT's system is really something else. The first time i tried it i realised just what i'd been missing with my own feeble attempts. NeXT-style pop-ups should at least be an option on Rhapsody. That way you'd get back approx. 15 sq. cm of sreen real estate on a 17", and save yourself an awful lot of mousing around. Ta, Tim
From: colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT manuals/books ? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:20 -0600 Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Message-ID: <colin-1805971517200001@anderson.vt.com> Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? Thanks, Colin Anderson colin@anderson.vt.com
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From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Telephone apps for NeXT Turbo? Date: 19 May 1997 00:34:43 GMT Organization: University of California, SF Message-ID: <5lo773$1arg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Are there any applications that make it possible to talk to someone else through a NeXT computer just as you would on the telephone? The 'talk' feature, where you type back and forth is OK, to be sure. But, speaking to someone in real (enough) time without the expense of long-distance would be fun, too. Thanks. John
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Telephone apps for NeXT Turbo? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:23:09 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519072210.10693H-100000@kira> References: <5lo773$1arg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu In-Reply-To: <5lo773$1arg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> If you both have NeXT computers you could use the CB app... but I don't know how well it works.... ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/comm/CB.0.98b.NI.b.gnutar.gz TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Compiling off of NeXT Developer CD-ROM Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:05:56 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519065737.10693F-100000@kira> References: <5lleo2$vvg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu In-Reply-To: <5lleo2$vvg@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Funny you should ask... I am planning on doing this very thing once the dust settles on my recent move. I've got 4.1 user and 3.3 dev. I installed the dev stuff on a separate HD and linked it to my main HD (in cases where 4.1 user already had a file from 3.3 dev I left the 4.1 version there). This allows me to compile NeXTStep apps under OpenStep. However, the quadfat installation takes up a lot of space, and I really only compiled on occasion, so I was thinking I could write a small script that would simply link the files from the CD-ROM (which NeXT setup so this could be done). I could then compile (all the makefiles should work since the headers will be linked to where they would normally be expected to be), and then have the same script unlink the CD-ROM (or else the CD will not be allowed to eject, I would think). My biggest concerns at this point are: - what about the patches for 3.3? Would these make a difference when compiling? - what about the post_install scripts? Do they change anything noteworthy that would effect compilations? TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT manuals/books ? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 07:21:36 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519070643.10693G-100000@kira> References: <colin-1805971517200001@anderson.vt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Colin Anderson <colin@anderson.vt.com> In-Reply-To: <colin-1805971517200001@anderson.vt.com> > What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? Very little was ever published, mainly for the low # of users versus cost of writing such a book... > What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation NeXT was never all that into printed materials... mostly online (fire up Librarian.app) > and where could I order them? You probably can't. When I asked about reproducing some of the materials and contacted NeXT's legal dept I was told: In June 1993 NeXT sold its hardware business, including copyright in the manual to which you are referring, to Canon Inc. of Japan, which re-sold the business to Firepower, Inc That was March of this year that I received this information, and was told that no contact information was available. If you really wanted to you might be able to find out who owns it now and if they have any left, but I would guess it would end up not being worth the time... TjL
From: bates_andy@tandem.com (Andy Bates) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 10:19:14 -0700 Organization: Tandem Computers Message-ID: <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> In article <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk>, julian @ whitetower.demon.co.uk (Julian Regel) wrote: > I like the Acorn RISC OS method (www.acorn.co.uk): There isn't a > global menu bar at all. If you want access to the menu, click the > second mouse button and a context sensitive menu pops up. I know apps > like Netscape support context sensitive menus but the Acorn ones are > the *only* menus. Saves screen space and means the user doesn't have > to trek to the top of the screen. Of course, the "trek" to the top of the screen isn't really a trek at all, since you just have to flick the mouse up and it's there. That's one of the benefits of an infinite-height menubar. Read up on Fitts' Law for why a top-of-screen menubar was chosen, and why it doesn't really matter how big the screen is. And as for context-sensitive menus, I much prefer a stable menubar that gives me general information on EVERYTHING I can do without any clicks, and specific information with one click. With a contextual menu, it's more confusing; where's the Shutdown command, in every contextual menu? It takes up extra space. If not, then where do you have to click to shut down? It's confusing. No, I think a standard global menubar is better. NeXT or Mac, I say...but I prefer Mac. And remember, NeXT made theirs vertical because Apple had the rights to the horizontal one. Andy Bates.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 19 May 1997 17:45:20 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> bates_andy@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote: > Of course, the "trek" to the top of the screen isn't really a > trek at all, since you just have to flick the mouse up and it's > there. That's one of the benefits of an infinite-height menubar. > Read up on Fitts' Law for why a top-of-screen menubar was chosen, > and why it doesn't really matter how big the screen is. This is outdated reasoning based on early GUI work. The fact is, when you shoot up to the top menubar, you still then have to refocus the pointer to the particular menu. Or you don't quite shoot it up, but guide it up. Much the same can be achieved by moving a floating menu palate to any edge of the screen, or better yet, into a corner of the screen, thus guaranteeing easy re-focusing. The MacUI is OLD, creaky, and based on technology constraints from the early 80's... > And as for context-sensitive menus, I much prefer a stable menubar > that gives me general information on EVERYTHING I can do without > any clicks, and specific information with one click. With a > contextual menu, it's more confusing; where's the Shutdown command, > in every contextual menu? It takes up extra space. If not, then > where do you have to click to shut down? It's confusing. This is absolutely silly. Without a doubt, one of the greatest things about win95 is the context sensitive menu bar. It saves a TON of mouse travel, and if you don't want to use it you don't have to. It simple puts under the mouse, a menu of all the things that are not dimmed under the regular menu when selecting an item. Who the heck wants to select a file, then go find the right menu choice in one of the menus, when one can simply click on the object and do it all in one fell swoop. I hate windows95 with a great passion, but even my bias doesn't cloud over this...this kind of functionality is an advance over the old status, stagnant, quo that is the mac UI... > NeXT or Mac, I say...but I prefer Mac. And remember, NeXT made > theirs vertical because Apple had the rights to the horizontal > one. Well, a horizontal menu bar is not protectable under US law. Neither is look N feel (as amptly demonstrated by Apple's mongo loss to ms). Regardless of why the decisions might have been made, they were the right decisions. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT manuals/books ? Date: 19 May 1997 17:59:12 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5lq4dg$jm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <colin-1805971517200001@anderson.vt.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519070643.10693G-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970519070643.10693G-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? > > Very little was ever published, mainly for the low # of users versus cost > of writing such a book... > > > > What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation > > NeXT was never all that into printed materials... mostly online (fire up > Librarian.app) > > > > and where could I order them? > > You probably can't. When I asked about reproducing some of the materials > and contacted NeXT's legal dept I was told: > > In June 1993 NeXT sold its hardware business, including copyright > in the manual to which you are referring, to Canon Inc. of Japan, > which re-sold the business to Firepower, Inc > > That was March of this year that I received this information, and was told > that no contact information was available. If you really wanted to you > might be able to find out who owns it now and if they have any left, but I > would guess it would end up not being worth the time... > > TjL > > > also the version of NeXTStep you are running / interested in running matters WRT books. There were at least three major sets of manuals: 2.x the large format white cover circa 1991 3.x the smaller format with black & gold covers (green type on covers) circa 1992 3.x the same size format as above but white covers with "blocks" graphics circa 1993 all were available at major bookstores as recently as 12 months ago. there is also a book on the "user experience" by Michael Shebanek circa 1993; it includes issues related to intel. -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com (additional whitespace brought to you curtesy of the alert panel telling me there's more quoted text than reply text.)
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IBM PC 365? Date: 19 May 97 16:07:15 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA62B36-9B3CD@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Just got back from WWDC and now I have to get a PC box to install my release 4.2 prerealease 2 NeXT development environment (along with WebObjects). I'm at a university so I don't have many options on hardware I can buy without having to do a justification report. I'm thinking of buying an IBM 365 P200 Pro. I don't care if I have SCSI, but I _do_ need to be able to install everything off the CD if I don't have SCSI. I understand I can do this if the CD-ROM is ATAPI compliant. Is this pretty much assured on any hardware you buy these days? Or should I be diligant and look into this? If I do have to buy SCSI, the IBM PC 365 can come with something called S.M.A.R.T. Fast/Wide SCSI with Ultra SCSI controller, but that's all the info they give. I don't see anything named S.M.A.R.T. on the hardware compatibility guide. It doesn't even look like the CD-ROM is SCSI when you have a SCSI controller. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: cord@concentric.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Mon, 19 May 97 20:09:48 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Message-ID: <5lqc2k$c2c@chronicle.concentric.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net>, jkheit@cnj.digex.net wrote: >This is absolutely silly. Without a doubt, one of the greatest >things about win95 is the context sensitive menu bar. It saves a >TON of mouse travel, and if you don't want to use it you don't have >to. It simple puts under the mouse, a menu of all the things that >are not dimmed under the regular menu when selecting an item. Who >the heck wants to select a file, then go find the right menu choice >in one of the menus, when one can simply click on the object and >do it all in one fell swoop. I hate windows95 with a great passion, >but even my bias doesn't cloud over this...this kind of functionality >is an advance over the old status, stagnant, quo that is the mac >UI... I must agree here. There are valid reasons to criticize Microsoft, but after begrudgingly being forced to use W'95 the UI testing they did for it resulted in some pretty nifty improvements including the context sensitive pop-up menus, the ability to get at any window from the task bar (hidden or not), and they regained a slight lead in accessing multiple networking accounts. Much of those look as if they were lifted from Mac via OS/2; that single button mouse is getting a little anemic. The point is that since the UI lawsuit loss Microsoft has been given cart blanche to copy the best of any UI there is, and even they given this much time to do so will catch up, and if Apple doesn't leverage the new kernel to do things that would break W'9Xs back to copy there won't be a compeling enough reason to choose them. Sadly too many new users I come across say that they like the new Windows "because it's so easy to use", and they don't know there's a difference between it and Mac, and it doesn't help when John D'Vorak tells them they're right. cord
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From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Intel printing--experiences? Date: 20 May 1997 05:29:56 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5lrcsk$k23@sun.sirius.com> So I'm about to buy a printer for my Intel box, and so far I've discovered the Dots and JetDriver packagers for running non-PostScript printers. I understand the licensing and most of the technical issues, so now I'm wondering, How well do they work? I'm planning to buy an Epson StylusColor 800. If you're successfully using that with OpenStep on Intel, I'd love to hear from you! If you have other printer recommendations, I'd love to hear that too. Please reply BY EMAIL to both of these addresses: ngervae @ sirius.com nik @ pdi.com Thanks. (Note: spaces inserted in email addresses above in a vain attempt to foil spambots.) ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com
From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faxing on NextStep Intel with USR Sportster 36.6k Date: 20 May 1997 05:31:53 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> Does anybody have any news or experiences on how to fax from NextStep Intel? I have a USR Sportster 36.6k modem, and the only driver software I've come across is Jolly's Class 2 Fax, which doesn't work. Any help is appreciated. Please reply BY EMAIL. ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com
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From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Cannon GP200 Driver? Date: 20 May 1997 16:23:40 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Message-ID: <5lsj6c$7th@corporate.hesta.com> Cc: bchin@richmond.freedomnet.com We are thinking of buying a multifunction (copy and print) machine from Cannon called a GP200 and attatching it to our network via ethernet. It has full postscript and PCL functionality - is there a driver for this? They have a Mac and Windows driver (no NT yet...) Can I get documents to print to it simply (no duplexing etc...) with a differnt driver ? What might the likelihood be that a driver would become available under Rhapsody? -- "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return." -Unattributed. MIME & NeXTMAIL accepted Michael Styles Verruto - michael@hesta.com
From: Chris Wiggins <cw8co@herts.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:03:17 +0100 Organization: University of Hertfordshire Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970520130013.18791A-100000@altair.herts.ac.uk> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <337B2D72.20F8@sanger.med.wayne.edu> <5lhe3k$qnr@gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5lhe3k$qnr@gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com> > Gerard Tromp <tromp@sanger.med.wayne.edu> wrote: > >John D. Kaminsky wrote: > >> > >> According to Cray, a current > >> T3E-900 with 450mhz processors runs at 504 Megaflops per processor. > >> The T3E-900 can handle up to 2048 processors, with an estimated >> performance > >> of >1 TeraFlop. > > > Thats all very well but how fast does it run Quake? A man after my own heart :) Someone who knows the real use of computers and a real scale of measuring speed. (watch out for Quake 2 with 1024 * 768 screen mode <grin> ) screen shots on the web. Chris Wiggins
From: Stefan Richter <richtest@bauwesen.tu-cottbus.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Followup-To: comp.sys.misc Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 19:23:27 +0200 Organization: tu cb Message-ID: <337F3B0F.421A@bauwesen.tu-cottbus.de> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <337B2D72.20F8@sanger.med.wayne.edu> <5lhe3k$qnr@gcsin3.geccs.gecm.com> <337CC9FA.3413D312@gemsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >> According to Cray, [...] > > >> of >1 TeraFlop. > > Thats all very well but how fast does it run Quake?? > Approx. 500k frames per second. Slow isn't it? Impressing video subsystem. And a nice Monitor. :> -- Stefan Richter
From: erik@square.nl (Erik Hommersom) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: JOB: Netherlands - OpenStep Developers Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:58:47 +0100 Organization: Square BV Message-ID: <erik-2005972058470001@vl54.pi.net> Open Positions for OpenStep Developers The Square Development Team are looking for OpenStep Developers on temporary or permanent contract. Your area of software development at Square may become Document Management Solutions, with emphasis on paper to electronic document conversions, involving fully-automated press clipping software, image enhancement and optical character recognition for turn-key projects. Square is a Dutch company, located in Roermond, in the southern part of The Netherlands, at less than 60 kms distance from Maastricht, Eindhoven, Aachen and Dusseldorf. We have a tight and enthusiastic crew that specialise in developing software for Document Management Solutions as well as Service Management Solutions. Currently, the Square team consists of approximately 50 members. Do you have an object-oriented bias towards design and programming? Do you enjoy working in small teams in direct contact with customers? Do you have experiences using object-oriented tools, possibly under OpenStep? Are you interested in cross-platform developments based on OpenStep? Do you want to grow in and along with our company? If you are good at your job and feel triggered by the above, please send us your resume, an email message or give us a ring. We will be happy to provide you with all the details you want! Erik Hommersom Square BV Software Development tel 00-31-475-355-100 daytime tel 00-31-77-354-1156 evening fax 00-31-475-355-199 Buitenop 5 6041 LA Roermond The Netherlands
From: anon@non.non (No One) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 03:33:54 -0600 Organization: MBnet - Manitoba's Connection To The Internet Message-ID: <anon-ya02408000R1705970333540001@news.cyberspc.mb.ca> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, > In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common > menubar is not > the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window > menubar. Under > this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here > are the > reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme Ugh, nonsense, the Windows windows are swimming blue mess of jumbled colors and way too much detail. The menu bars, plus MS's idiotic handling of active/inactive winodw color schemes makes it hard to tell which window is in front. The MacOS was really designed by experts/geniuses in that it is always constant. The menu bar will always be in the same place, while some may prefer to have multiple menus, and some may be used to the universal menu bar I'm sure you'll agree a new computer user would be much more confused by a thousand different menu bars on screen. > . Using > the common menu bar with several instances of the same application can > be counter > intuitive. Even now, it is hard to differentiate which application the > menu is currently representing. This has resulted in numerous > frustrations when one accidentally quits the wrong application. THat's what the little icon on the right is for. Besides, multiple menu bars wouldn't help this problem, it would just pop up in other ways. A more practicle solution would be to make it more clear which app you are currently in. > > Samuel Chow
From: "Karl N. Matthias" <matthias.3@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Provider in Lyon, France? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 18:29:22 -0400 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <338225C2.77EB@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All- I know this isn't the right group for this post but my posts keep getting lost in the mix everywhere else, and I was hoping someone in the smaller, friendlier NeXT community might help me out. I am looking for an Internet Service Provider in Lyon, France. I will be there for the summer, and don't want to be net-less. I found the France Telecom Wanadoo service, but was hoping there might be a slightly cheaper solution. I was also hoping to take care of setting an account up via e-mail so I don't have to pay the long distance and hassle with a tele-receptionist in French. If anyone can help out at all, please let me know. Thanks! Karl
From: datamagik@usa.net (Jay Riley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: DON'T POST THIS TO comp.sys.next.misc (Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip) Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:08:14 -0500 Organization: DATAMAGIK € Systems, Software, and Design Engineering Message-ID: <datamagik-2005971708140001@pmnet02-28.austin.texas.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970516063506.957C-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970516063506.957C-100000@kira>, Tim Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Don't post this to comp.sys.next.misc ! > > > Keep this in the advocacy groups! > > > We've seen and read enough of this stuff, it's just speculation and rumor > and guessing and replying to it will just fill up newsfeeds with idle > speculation What topics is <news:comp.sys.next.misc> intended for? (for example I couldn't help but notice you posted this message to: comp.sys.next.advocacy, comp.sys.mac.advocacy, comp.sys.next.misc, and comp.sys.mac.misc) Besides, as I understood it cross-posted messages are only actually fed through the newsfeed once with the newsserver using the references to make it appear in the various groups. Regards, Jay ===================================================================== = DATAMAGIK Systems, Software & Design Engineering Austin, Texas = 1-888-369-5741 <http://lonestar.texas.net/~riley> riley@texas.net = = Created on an Apple PowerBook 5300cs laptop using NewsWatcher 2.1.3 =
From: pett@cgl.ucsf.edu.delete.this.unless.youre.a.junk.emailer (Eric Pettersen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 20 May 1997 21:27:26 GMT Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Message-ID: <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> bates_andy@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote: > Of course, the "trek" to the top of the screen isn't really a trek at all, > since you just have to flick the mouse up and it's there. That's one of > the benefits of an infinite-height menubar. Read up on Fitts' Law for why > a top-of-screen menubar was chosen, and why it doesn't really matter how > big the screen is. It's a trek to get back to where you were before you had to go to the top of the screen to reach the menu. A pop-up menu has no such drawback. --- Eric Pettersen pett@diderot.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: how to enable su for a user? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:56 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Message-ID: <1997051911435682552@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've created an account on a NeXTStation running NEXTSTEP 2.1. I can telnet into that account from outside, but when I try to su I get a message that it's not allowed for that user. How can I enable su-ability for a user? Where is that information being stored? Anfortunately I couln't find that into the admin manual. Thanks. -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: using an NTP server for a NeXT? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:44:11 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Message-ID: <1997051911441183464@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is it possible to specify a (non-NeXT) NTP (Network Time Protocol) server for a NeXT running NEXTSTEP 2.1? Is that capability already included in the OS, or do I need extra software such as ntpdate? Thanks. -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: specifying the NIS server? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:48 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Message-ID: <1997051911434882060@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm trying to make a NeXTStation running NEXTSTEP 2.1 act as a NIS client to a NIS server (a DECStation running Ultrix). On the NeXT I can specify the NIS domain name, but then it tries to find its NIS server through a broadcast which fails ad, as mentioned in the admin manual, the machine hangs during the startup process (the only way to get it back was to boot in single user mode hand change back hostconfig). Is there a way to explicitely specify a NIS server (or several ones), preventing the NeXT from doing a broadcast for it? As I understand it broadcasts only work within the same ethernet, while NIS (being ZCP/IP based) definitely works across routers. -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStation as X terminal? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:52 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Message-ID: <1997051911435282315@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've got a b/w-NeXTStation (68040, 8 MB RAM) running NEXTSTEP 2.1. Could I turn it into an X terminal? To reduce administration, it would be best if, after booting, the NeXT already displayed the login screen of another machine (running e.g. Linux). Is that feasable? -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
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From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 21 May 1997 02:55:04 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5lto68$99c$2@news.platinum.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> it appeared that John Kheit wrote: > This is outdated reasoning based on early GUI work. The fact is, > when you shoot up to the top menubar, you still then have to refocus > the pointer to the particular menu. Or you don't quite shoot it > up, but guide it up. Much the same can be achieved by moving a > floating menu palate to any edge of the screen, or better yet, into > a corner of the screen, thus guaranteeing easy re-focusing. The > MacUI is OLD, creaky, and based on technology constraints from the > early 80's... John, do you get lots of flames for saying stuff like this, or am I really that much more abrasive than you? Notice that today I'm elsewhere picking on OS/2, just to be egalitarian... ;-> /gary -- "if nominated, I shall not run, if elected, I shall not serve." Pat Paulsen for President. Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to enable su for a user? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:00:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520205927.11204B-100000@kira> References: <1997051911435682552@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <1997051911435682552@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Faq: the user has to be a memeber of the group 'wheel' Use /NextAdmin/UserManager.app (as root) to add them to wheel... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to enable su for a user? Date: 21 May 1997 14:16:45 GMT Organization: CUBENet Munich Message-ID: <5lv04d$tku$1@salyko.cube.net> References: <1997051911435682552@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote: >I've created an account on a NeXTStation running NEXTSTEP 2.1. I can >telnet into that account from outside, but when I try to su I get a >message that it's not allowed for that user. >How can I enable su-ability for a user? Where is that information being >stored? Anfortunately I couln't find that into the admin manual. >Thanks. > These users who shall have the permission to su root must be in the group "wheel" Regards, Werner ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- IP - Gesellschaft fuer Praesentationen in Datennetzen mbH Goerresstr. 36, D-80798 Muenchen, Tel. 089/181628, Fax: 089/181648 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Vereinsbank Muenchen Amtsgericht Muenchen Dr. Werner Eberl BLZ 700 202 70 HRB 110159 eberl@ip-service.com Kto. 44208075 http://ip-service.com
From: werner@ip.cubenet.de (Dr. Werner Eberl) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStation as X terminal? Date: 21 May 1997 14:20:01 GMT Organization: CUBENet Munich Message-ID: <5lv0ah$tku$2@salyko.cube.net> References: <1997051911435282315@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) wrote: >I've got a b/w-NeXTStation (68040, 8 MB RAM) running NEXTSTEP 2.1. >Could I turn it into an X terminal? To reduce administration, it would >be best if, after booting, the NeXT already displayed the login screen >of another machine (running e.g. Linux). Is that feasable? > There are free X-Servers for the NeXT, but I don't know if they run under 2.1 If you hack a little in the rc.-Files and the .xinit and so on it should work like you want, but I doubt it will be done in 15 minutes. Regards, Werner ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- IP - Gesellschaft fuer Praesentationen in Datennetzen mbH Goerresstr. 36, D-80798 Muenchen, Tel. 089/181628, Fax: 089/181648 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Vereinsbank Muenchen Amtsgericht Muenchen Dr. Werner Eberl BLZ 700 202 70 HRB 110159 eberl@ip-service.com Kto. 44208075 http://ip-service.com
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Two different video cards? Date: 21 May 97 10:56:11 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA8854E-8AAB69@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being supported? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
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From: andre@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Andre Schaefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: miniSQL 2.0 and EOF 1.1 on Nextstep 3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 14:18:51 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5lv08b$i9a$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <EA88qB.9z5@cam-ani.co.uk> In article <EA88qB.9z5@cam-ani.co.uk> ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) writes: > In article <17497134.25580.6502@kcbbs.gen.nz> writes: > > I don't think NeXTSTEP has the correct issue of the > > memory-moving/handling libraries to compile mSQL 2.0? Not oo sure, but > > check out the FAQ. With a helpful patch (rearding mmap) msql 2.0 is now up and running under Nextstep. Anyone interested can get the patch from me. I didn't do the compilation, so I probably cannot answer technical questions... > This isn't necessarily a problem, as it would be no trouble (and may be > beneficial) to actually run mSQL on another non-NeXT machine (and it's > probably no more than a few hours porting anyway). > > The big question will the ADAPTOR work - the short answer is almost > certainly not (I admit I'm guessing), but I too would be VERY intereted in > running mSQL2.0 as a backend to an EOF app (I'm currently prototyping > something for which mSQL1 isn't quite good enough, while 2.0 might be fill > a big gap - to the extent that this app could become viable). > > I guess the bottom line is, is anyone interested in rewritting the 1.0 > adaptor to work with 2.0? I'd be tempted to try if no one else will, but > obviously the original authors would be more appropriate. Also I'm still > on NeXTStep 3.3 and the old version of EOF that shipped with it - an > OpenStep/EOF2 version may be more appropriate. > > $an YES please. I just looked into the sources of the original adaptor, but do not understand very much. I do not know where the problems lie... Andre'
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From: rfl@localhost.enet.dec.com (Russell Leach {78830}) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 21 May 1997 15:07:47 GMT Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Distribution: world Message-ID: <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu> In article <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu>, pett@cgl.ucsf.edu.delete.this.unless.youre.a.junk.emailer (Eric Pettersen) writes: |>bates_andy@tandem.com (Andy Bates) wrote: |>> Of course, the "trek" to the top of the screen isn't really a trek at all, |>> since you just have to flick the mouse up and it's there. That's one of |>> the benefits of an infinite-height menubar. Read up on Fitts' Law for why |>> a top-of-screen menubar was chosen, and why it doesn't really matter how |>> big the screen is. |> |> It's a trek to get back to where you were before you had to go to |>the top of the screen to reach the menu. A pop-up menu has no such drawback. BUT pop-ups are _invisible_. The desktop menu provides the same function, with a visual cue. Sure a pop-up saves wear-&-tear on the wrist, but if you don't know what's there, you'll get less use from those functions. I speak from experience, with Interleaf 5, a Unix document processing app, whose entire interface is in contextual pop-ups, and there are a zillion contexts for the same piece of a document. You never know what'll come up. And the pop-ups can get mighty deep, with layer after layer after layer. This is an extreme example, but the benefit of at least having a minimal, visible starting point from which to reach a function in a GUI should not be overlooked. How about both? The current Mac GUI uses the menubar, but has lots of keyboard shortcuts. Most users learn some set of them and stop using the menu for this or that function. But the menus are there for less-used or forgotten items. Contextual pop-ups would be a perfect _addition_ to this system, not a replacement. -- ----------------------------------------------------- "Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that." ----------------------------------------------------- * Russ Leach * awhfy@tiac.net * rfl@swl.msd.ray.com
From: jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com (Jin Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Rhapsody features? Date: 21 May 1997 20:49:25 GMT Organization: DEC Systems Research Center Message-ID: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> I missed the WWDC, and I am not able to find answers to the following questions on Apple's web sites. Maybe someone can fulfill my curiosity. Specifically, will Rhapsody have these important features offered by Nextstep: 1. Will Rhapsody support multi-user / time-sharing ? Nextstep does, ie. many users can login and work on one machine simultaneous. 2. Will Rhapsody support a network-transparent window system? Nextstep does, ie. a user may login to a remote Next, and run a graphical application with the -NSHost (or -NXHost) switch, and have the application displayed at his/her local Next. (how to integrate DPS and QuickDraw to support remote display?) This remote display feature is a common sense in the Unix/X world too. 3. Will Rhapsody have a Unix-like shell and various Unix utilities? Nextstep does, ie. 4.3BSD on top of Mach, and it has all the standard Unix utilities under /bin and /usr/bin. Please reply by email. Thanks! Jin
From: Donald_Brown@cesoft.com (Donald Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:22:06 -0500 Organization: CE Software Message-ID: <AFA8DFBE96681C4D10@204.152.71.67> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu> <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com> In article <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com>, rfl@localhost.enet.dec.com (Russell Leach {78830}) wrote: >How about both? The current Mac GUI uses the menubar, but has lots of >keyboard shortcuts. Most users learn some set of them and stop using the menu >for this or that function. But the menus are there for less-used or forgotten >items. Contextual pop-ups would be a perfect _addition_ to this system, not >a replacement. In fact, the features mentioned for Mac OS8 (due sometime this summer) includes contextual pop-up menus. Donald
From: "Greg Shaw" <gshaw@zeta.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: how to enable su for a user? Date: 21 May 1997 23:12:02 GMT Organization: Decisionware Message-ID: <01bc663b$48349340$114f6fcb@decisionware> References: <1997051911435682552@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520205927.11204B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is also a utility that I found quite useful and that is sudo. Sudo allows root to assign a specific user specific root commands that they can use as su. They can access no others. They can not change the ones they have access. And from ememory they do not need to be a member of 'wheel'. While adding a member to 'wheel' maybe the answer to this particular inquiry I thought I would mention sudo for any others for whom it would be a solution. Just search the web for 'sudo'. Cheers, Greg Shaw. Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote in article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520205927.11204B-100000@kira>... > > Faq: the user has to be a memeber of the group 'wheel' > > Use /NextAdmin/UserManager.app (as root) to add them to wheel... > > TjL >
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 21 May 97 21:48:14 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA91E23-AE964E@141.214.134.235> References: <anon-ya02408000R1705970333540001@news.cyberspc.mb.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.misc Actually, they're going the other way. What I saw running at WWDC was a single menubar. Further, they got the desktop working like a Mac desktop and will be getting rid of the dock. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 21 May 97 21:49:53 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA91E85-AEAD67@141.214.134.235> References: <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.mac.misc Almost forgot... The scrollbars were on the right side of the windows. It looked just like a Mac. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
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From: j.saunders@northpower.com.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Oz NeXT Cube wanted Date: 22 May 1997 03:50:42 GMT Organization: NorthPower Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m0fqi$8fq$1@merki.connect.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi all, Is there any NeXT hardware for sale in Australia? (Preferably on the east-coast) I'm looking for at least a case and a keyboard. Thanks, Justin --------------------------------------------------------------| Justin Saunders | <insert witty quote here > | Justin_Saunders@premium.com.au| | --------------------------------------------------------------| --------------------------------------------------------- ce is in contextual pop-ups, and there are a zillion > contexts for the same piece of a document. You never know what'll come up. > And the pop-ups can get mighty deep, with layer after layer after layer. Let me point out that NEXTSTEP pop-ups are different. They're _not_ contextual; no matter where you are, it gives you the global menu for the app, the analog to the Mac menubar. And it's always available so you can always count on it to be there. But for novice users at least, I agree that there should always be something visible. I prefer NEXTSTEP's floating menu; and advanced users can move it out of the way and only use the pop-ups.
Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 08:40:29 -0400 From: joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Message-ID: <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R2205970840290001@news.dol.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu> <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com> <5m0gcq$hd7@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Organization: Graver Chemical Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit In article <5m0gcq$hd7@sps1.phys.vt.edu>, nurban@vt.edu wrote: > In article <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com>, rfl@swl.msd.ray.com wrote: > > > BUT pop-ups are _invisible_. The desktop menu provides the same function, > > with a visual cue. Sure a pop-up saves wear-&-tear on the wrist, but if you > > don't know what's there, you'll get less use from those functions. > > > I speak from experience, with Interleaf 5, a Unix document processing app, > > whose entire interface is in contextual pop-ups, and there are a zillion > > contexts for the same piece of a document. You never know what'll come up. > > And the pop-ups can get mighty deep, with layer after layer after layer. > > Let me point out that NEXTSTEP pop-ups are different. They're _not_ > contextual; no matter where you are, it gives you the global menu for > the app, the analog to the Mac menubar. And it's always available so > you can always count on it to be there. You can get this kind of menu with Kensington's TurboMouse. I currently have a 4 button mouse configured as follows (you can change it). Upper left--popup menu with all the application's menus, including the Apple menu. Fully functional and hierarchical. Upper right--popup menu listing all open applications so you can switch between them. Lower left--normal mouse button. Lower right--context sensitive menu (MacOS 8.0 feature). > > But for novice users at least, I agree that there should always be > something visible. I prefer NEXTSTEP's floating menu; and advanced > users can move it out of the way and only use the pop-ups. I like my current setup--things are visible the old way and also available by popups. -- Regards, Joe Ragosta See the Complete Macintosh Advocacy Site http://www.dol.net/~Ragosta/complmac.htm
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStation as X terminal? Date: 22 May 1997 14:49:23 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5m1mdj$ro5$3@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1997051911435282315@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > I've got a b/w-NeXTStation (68040, 8 MB RAM) running NEXTSTEP 2.1. > Could I turn it into an X terminal? To reduce administration, it would > be best if, after booting, the NeXT already displayed the login screen > of another machine (running e.g. Linux). Is that feasable? For crying out loud, stop torturing the poor thing! Sell it to someone (I'm sure you'll get a couple 100 Deutschmark for it), and buy a cheap PC to run Linux. You'll save alot of time. Besides, X windows servers for black HW are neither fast not cheap - and I don't know where you could get an X server for 2.1 - hm, in a museum perhaps :-) Make a decent offer and I'll buy her. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: nurban@sps1.phys.vt.edu (Nathan Urban) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 22 May 1997 12:45:28 -0400 Organization: Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Message-ID: <5m1t78$jla@sps1.phys.vt.edu> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com> <5m0gcq$hd7@sps1.phys.vt.edu> <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R2205970840290001@news.dol.net> In article <joe.ragosta-ya02408000R2205970840290001@news.dol.net>, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta) wrote: > You can get this kind of menu with Kensington's TurboMouse. I currently > have a 4 button mouse configured as follows (you can change it). > Upper left--popup menu with all the application's menus, including the > Apple menu. Fully functional and hierarchical. > Upper right--popup menu listing all open applications so you can switch > between them. > Lower left--normal mouse button. > Lower right--context sensitive menu (MacOS 8.0 feature). Pretty nice! Do you need a special mouse? Is the software commercial? > > But for novice users at least, I agree that there should always be > > something visible. I prefer NEXTSTEP's floating menu; and advanced > > users can move it out of the way and only use the pop-ups. > I like my current setup--things are visible the old way and also available > by popups. I'd like to retain the ability to tear off submenus, though, even if they are accessible through pop-ups.. sometimes it's more convenient to put a submenu right next to your document and move back and forth.. partly because it saves time searching for the right submenu when you pop all of them up. Also, I like tearing off the Windows submenu (list of all open windows) so I can easily browse all my open documents (the list is always visible) and select among them.. very helpful when I'm using my web browser and have 20 documents open, for one.
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 12:57:13 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and the harddrive to dual master. We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about every combination that I could think of and none of them work. By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 The light on the CD-ROM lights up briefly, but then I get some error message about not getting a packet of information. It does that several times (I let it do this for about thirty minutes or so a few times before giving up). This happens whether there's a CD in it or not. Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 13:14:30 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA9F740-E19D62@141.214.134.235> References: <199705221711.KAA18417@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, May 22, 1997 1:11 PM, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca <mailto:godwin@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote: >hmm is your NEC supported?? One of the NeXT Answers states that other CD-ROMs that aren't in the list should be supported, but to let them know if one doesn't work. Right now I'm not sure if the problem is the setup, or the CD-ROM. >how hard is it for you to get a SCSI and >CDROM? that's just the quickest way to solve the problem! (you can always >install the EIDE driver letter when the system is setup) I may do that, or I may just purchase an IBM PC 365 (one of the computers listed as working). rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 1997 11:50:19 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> In article <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235>, Robert A. Decker <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell >Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. > > I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto >a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive >and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and >the harddrive to dual master. > We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the >CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the >harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be >dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about >every combination that I could think of and none of them work. > > > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where >it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets >to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: >NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 I would be inclined to blame an incompatibility with the NEC drive. Note in NeXTanswer 2265 that no NEC drives are in the supported list, and 2 NEC drives are in the Known Problems list. I was able to install successfully, after a bit of hassle, from a Toshiba 5602 drive. It's not in the supported list, but the 5302 is. The hassle factor came in the form of conflicting and confusing information and some unexpected behavior. The machine has two EIDE interfaces, and was originally configured with the hard disk on one, and the CD-ROM on the other. I tried to get this to work with the Dual EIDE driver option, but it would not recognize the CD drive. I then moved the CD drive to the slave position on the first EIDE interface. This worked, but I can't recall exactly which driver choices I used - probably just the normal EIDE driver (not the dual), specifying that to the install dialog for both the CD and hard disk interfaces. Whichever tech note suggests specifying the CD as SCSI with an Adaptech interface, is either obsolete or a red herring. Once the kernel starts, the device probe messages hint that at some point the CD may be internally spoofed up to look like it's on SCSI, but from the user's point of view, this now seems to be irrelevant. Once the installer could see the CD, everything installed and ran fine, and CD insertion and operations work fine in the running OS. I'd suggest that the first thing to do is to buy/beg/borrow a CD drive which is at first glance related to one listed in NeXTanswers 2265, and hook it up to the slave position on the first EIDE. [Following is irrelevant to the query, but I'm exploiting the forum to troll for help on another Prelude install glitch.] See also my gripe in comp.sys.next.software about WebObject Builder not being runnable on Mach due to some apparent missing things (looks like they're part of EOF, which wasn't in the Prelude package). It does appear to run OK when installed on NT (gak, phooey), though. Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (make that crl.com) Cotati, CA
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 22 May 1997 20:26:59 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5m2a6j$m1$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> you can get EOF runtime somewhere in nextanswers or ftp.next.com
From: Melissa O'Neill <NoOnSePiAlMl@cs.sfu.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.lang.java.setup Subject: Problems w/ Kaffe 0.9 [next-m68k] (undef'd syms _java_util_zip_*) Followup-To: comp.sys.next.programmer Date: 23 May 1997 00:03:13 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <5m2ms1$t35$1@morgoth.sfu.ca> I succeeded in compiling Kaffe 0.9, now I just have the little problem of actually getting it to run. Right now, it seems to have problems loading its native library, which appear to be due to undefined symbols blocking the dynamic load process. I added some diagnostic code to its ``shared libary'' loader, so I'd actually see what the problem was, and it seems that there are `stubs' defined for java_lang_reflect_Field_<whatever> and java_util_zip_<whatever> but no definitions anywhere. Any help would certainly be appreciated, enclosed is the error report. Melissa. P.S. If you want to reply by e-mail, you'll have to remove `N O S P A M' from my e-mail address. Sorry for the inconvenience. Enc. next_mach_3.3% ./kaffe/kaffe/kaffe test/HelloWorldApp.java rld(): can't open: /usr/lib/libkaffe_native.o (No such file or directory, errno = 2) Library load of /usr/lib/libkaffe_native.o failed: (see above) rld(): Undefined symbols: _java_lang_reflect_Field_getBoolean _java_lang_reflect_Field_getByte _java_lang_reflect_Field_getChar _java_lang_reflect_Field_getDouble _java_lang_reflect_Field_getFloat _java_lang_reflect_Field_getInt _java_lang_reflect_Field_getLong _java_lang_reflect_Field_getModifiers _java_lang_reflect_Field_getShort _java_lang_reflect_Field_setBoolean _java_lang_reflect_Field_setByte _java_lang_reflect_Field_setChar _java_lang_reflect_Field_setDouble _java_lang_reflect_Field_setFloat _java_lang_reflect_Field_setInt _java_lang_reflect_Field_setLong _java_lang_reflect_Field_setShort _java_util_zip_Adler32_update _java_util_zip_Adler32_update1 _java_util_zip_CRC32_update _java_util_zip_CRC32_update1 _java_util_zip_Deflater_deflate _java_util_zip_Deflater_end _java_util_zip_Deflater_getAdler _java_util_zip_Deflater_getTotalIn _java_util_zip_Deflater_getTotalOut _java_util_zip_Deflater_init _java_util_zip_Deflater_reset _java_util_zip_Deflater_setDictionary _java_util_zip_Inflater_end _java_util_zip_Inflater_getAdler _java_util_zip_Inflater_getTotalIn _java_util_zip_Inflater_getTotalOut _java_util_zip_Inflater_inflate _java_util_zip_Inflater_init _java_util_zip_Inflater_reset _java_util_zip_Inflater_setDictionary Library load of /usr/local/lib/libkaffe_native.o failed: (See above) Failed to locate native library in path: /usr/lib:/usr/local/lib Aborting.
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: PCD capable CDROM drives for NeXT Date: 23 May 1997 00:12:22 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5m2nd6$7ff$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> It was always hard to read PhotoCDs on a NeXT, I think. A multi-session PCD drive spits out the CD if it is a multi-session CD, and a normal drive doesn't spit it out but reads only the 1st session. Then this wonderful driver from a German company came, and one could read multi session PCDs after all. Until 4.x came... Now you can access only the first 26 files. So, I heard that there are drives around that can handle multi-session PCDs and pretend to the computer that it's a normal CD, so that a stupid computer, like a NeXT, doesn't get confused. I think that it's quite ridiculous that in 1997 NeXT still doesn't have a PCD driver that would work. Anyone out there has any solutions? I'd like to solve it with a CDROM drive, so that it works on Motorola, Intel and Sparc, rather than some kind of driver that breaks with each system upgrade. Thanks! - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: gmark@grayfox.svs.com (G. Mark Stewart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 23 May 1997 03:46:52 GMT Organization: Sun Valley SoftWare Message-ID: <5m33vc$8lr$1@brownfox.svs.com> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> Jin Yu (jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com) wrote: : I missed the WWDC, and I am not able to find answers to the following : questions on Apple's web sites. Maybe someone can fulfill my curiosity. : Specifically, will Rhapsody have these important features offered by : Nextstep: [...] : Please reply by email. Thanks! If you know or have a guess, DON'T reply by e-mail -- post it. GMS http://www.svs.com/users/gmark
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Switching video modes without seeing what your're doing? Date: 23 May 97 02:32:20 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFAAB237-1224C1@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc A few times now my monitor has blanked out at certain video modes. Is there a way to switch resolution/etc. without seeing the desktop? What can I do to switch without having to reinstall? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com (Jin Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NXHost protocol? Date: 23 May 1997 07:34:11 GMT Organization: DEC Systems Research Center Message-ID: <5m3h9j$jgt@src-news.pa.dec.com> I am interested in the protocol behind NeXT's remote display mechanism, ie. how does a NeXT app display to a remote WindowServer using -NXHost? What is the communication channel? using TCP/IP like X protocol? Mach port? ... Is the protocol public? Any docs? I assume an app sends a stream of binary PS 2 to the remote WindowServer. But I would like to know the detailed mechanism... Please reply by email, thanks... Jin
Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 03:33:18 -0600 From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com Subject: How use rumba so that users can write on mounted directory ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Message-ID: <864376023.27678@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi, I succed to mount a NT shared drive while logged in as root with: rumba //nt_server/shared /nt -U John -P Thanks -s NT_SERVER the nt drive is mounted with root access permissions. I made chown root rumba chmod u+s rumba and while logged in as user corresponding to John/Thanks rumba //nt_server/shared /nt -U John -P Thanks -s NT_SERVER answered me: error connecting to server: [1] Not owner Does anyone has a script or an idea to get nt drive mounted on OpenStep client with rumba with netinfo ? Thanks in advance for help Best Regards, Benoit Marchant -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: Fri, 23 May 97 11:01:34 GMT Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Midwestern Internet Services Message-ID: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!!
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NXFontsPaths question Date: 23 May 1997 19:57:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5m4sqv$9k4@crcnis3.unl.edu> I'm trying to get working the idea of using other folders besides the standard /NextLibrary/Fonts, /LocalLibrary/Fonts, and ~/Library/Fonts for locating fonts. I've been unsuccessful. I'm trying manually set the GLOBAL defaults value NXFontsPaths. I've set it using: dwrite GLOBAL NXFontsPaths /NextLibrary/Fonts:/LocalLibrary/Fonts:~/Library/Fonts/:~/Library/Fonts/New At this point, I 1. I've placed some fonts into ~/Library/Fonts/New 2. I issue (to be paranoid): buildafmdir ~/Library/Fonts/New Now I attempt to use the fonts in ~/Library/Fonts/New in an application. For example, I now launch Edit, and try to change fonts using the Font Panel. My new fonts are LISTED, but don't work (they appear as Courier). Addtional information: 1. If I don't update NXFontsPaths, the new fonts aren't listed (and don't work, of course). 2. The Workspace/Font Panel (whatever) is smart enough to auto-update the font cache on changing the contents of the "New" font directory, ie, after a change, the next app's Font Panel I open pauses for a few moments saying: "Incorporating information about new fonts... (please wait)". 3. I could've SWORN at one time in my own testing, I got this to work. But I can't duplicate my apparent success. 4. I've tried logging-out, restarting the window server, logging back in, without any change. 5. I've tried using the Preferences module FontSearch.preferences (v0.85), but it doesn't seem to work (for me). Anyone have ideas about what I might be doing wrong? Or if this is even possible? -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 13:13:51 -0700 Organization: Abacus Concepts, Inc. Message-ID: <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jin Yu wrote: > I missed the WWDC, and I am not able to find answers to the following > questions on Apple's web sites. Maybe someone can fulfill my curiosity. > > Specifically, will Rhapsody have these important features offered by > Nextstep: > > 1. Will Rhapsody support multi-user / time-sharing ? > Nextstep does, ie. many users can login and work on one machine > simultaneous. Yes. Long term, a Rhapsody will be Apple's server solutions, although I understand that the server line is sticking with AIX for the time being. I believe it's due to the fact that OpenStep doesn't scale well when you have lots of simultaneous users. > 2. Will Rhapsody support a network-transparent window system? > Nextstep does, ie. a user may login to a remote Next, and run a graphical > application with the -NSHost (or -NXHost) switch, and have the > application displayed at his/her local Next. (how to integrate DPS and > QuickDraw to support remote display?) This remote display feature is a > common sense in the Unix/X world too. Yes, although I imagine that QuickDraw 3D and QuickTime might not work remotely. > 3. Will Rhapsody have a Unix-like shell and various Unix utilities? > Nextstep does, ie. 4.3BSD on top of Mach, and it has all the standard > Unix utilities under /bin and /usr/bin. Yes, although Apple will make every effort to hide this stuff from people who don't want to see it.
From: "Jeffrey R. Paules" <paules@albany.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SAMBA capabilities Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 17:24:16 -0400 Organization: QED Associates Message-ID: <33860B00.1E08@albany.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does the SAMBA implementation in OpenStep 4.X permit printing from Win95 clients to a Next Laser printer connected to a slab? Any experience would be helpful. Jeff Paules paules@albany.net
From: Jeffrey Koppi <jkoppi@diehlgraphsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: domain name server Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:53:51 -0400 Organization: Diehl Graphsoft, Inc. Message-ID: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How do I specify my Domain Name Server (DNS) in OpenStep 4.2 (Mach Intel)? I run OmniWeb, and it says "No such Host" for any URL I enter. If I type in the address number instead of the domain name it works. Jeff jkoppi@diehlgraphsoft.com
From: pett@cgl.ucsf.edu.delete.this.unless.youre.a.junk.emailer (Eric Pettersen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 23 May 1997 23:58:39 GMT Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab Message-ID: <5m5avf$cvd@cgl.ucsf.edu> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu> <5lv343$q3l$1@swlab1.msd.ray.com> rfl@localhost.enet.dec.com (Russell Leach {78830}) wrote: > > In article <5lt4vu$bhg@cgl.ucsf.edu>, Eric Pettersen writes: > >It's a trek to get back to where you were before you had to go to the > >top of the screen to reach the menu. A pop-up menu has no such drawback. > > BUT pop-ups are _invisible_. The desktop menu provides the same > function, with a visual cue. Sure a pop-up saves wear-&-tear on the > wrist, but if you don't know what's there, you'll get less use from > those functions. > > I speak from experience, with Interleaf 5, a Unix document processing > app, whose entire interface is in contextual pop-ups, and there are a > zillion contexts for the same piece of a document. You never know > what'll come up. And the pop-ups can get mighty deep, with layer after > layer after layer. This is an extreme example, but the benefit of at > least having a minimal, visible starting point from which to reach a > function in a GUI should not be overlooked. > > How about both? The current Mac GUI uses the menubar, but has lots of > keyboard shortcuts. Most users learn some set of them and stop using > the menu for this or that function. But the menus are there for less-used > or forgotten items. Contextual pop-ups would be a perfect _addition_ > to this system, not a replacement. NEXTSTEP already _does_ use both. You can pop up a menu under the right mouse button, and that self-same menu is available in the top left corner of the screen (i.e. no surprises in the pop up menu). You can't easily use a scree-wide menu strip as a pop up. Command key shortcuts are also available. --- Eric Pettersen pett@diderot.ucsf.edu (NeXTmail capable)
From: *jc@or.psychology.dal.ca (John Christie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:43:28 +0100 Organization: ISINet, Nova Scotia Message-ID: <*jc-2305972243290001@192.0.2.1> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com> In article <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com>, Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> wrote: > Yes. Long term, a Rhapsody will be Apple's server solutions, although I > understand that the server line is sticking with AIX for the time > being. I believe it's due to the fact that OpenStep doesn't scale well > when you have lots of simultaneous users. The very next OS to be produced for Apple's 500 and 700 series servers is Rhapsody. They are not waiting for any other reason than it ain't ready. thye already cancelled updates to AIX. -- You aren't free if you CAN choose - only if you DO choose. All you are is the decisions you make. Remove "*" to reply via email
From: cgray@metronet.com (Charles Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 22:30:12 -0600 Organization: TMI news testing Message-ID: <cgray-2305972230120001@dal160.metronet.com> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <01bc5f8f$ba994460$15621ecb@homer.effect.net.au> In article <01bc5f8f$ba994460$15621ecb@homer.effect.net.au>, "Josh McDonald" <os-dev@effect.net.au> wrote: > > I think that you are mistaken. The teraflop machine is a intel piece of > > shit built using 32 bit chips Pentium Pros running a hack of Unikos. I > > could be confussing it with a DOE computer but it costed over 60 million > > to build and is not scalar but is capable of teraflop calculations with > > its 7000 processors. > > What a fucking wate of good money. Crays do that for half the cost. > > No machine save the huge intel beast has ever achieved a teraflop, for any > amount > of money. > > -Josh Cray claims their T3E-900 can achieve 1.8 teraflops: http://www.cray.com/PUBLIC/product-info/T3E/CRAY_T3E-900.html -- cgray@metronet.com http://www.metronet.com/~cgray
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 23:03:42 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Jeffrey Koppi <jkoppi@diehlgraphsoft.com> In-Reply-To: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> You need to setup an /etc/resolv.conf from the 4.1 release notes/aka the ppp faq: Name Resolution Once you have a PPP connection up, you may notice that your machine will not be able to resolve the names of machines to their IP addresses. You can check this by trying to telnet to a machine outside your local domain. If "telnet <IP address of machine>" is successful, but "telnet <machinename>" is not, then your name resolution is not configured correctly. The fix is to edit the file /etc/resolv.conf. This file contains two important items. The first is your domain name. This is the name that is automatically tacked on to a computer name if you don't specify the complete name. For example if my domain is 'cps.msu.edu' and I enter 'telnet sidney', the computer will try 'telnet sidney.cps.msu.edu' (although, it will not print this name on the command line). The second thing is a list of name servers. These should be local to your ppp provider. Your network administrator will be able to provide you with the appropriate addresses. There are default name servers to use in case the local provider is not responding. An example file might look like: domain cps.msu.edu # # Insert local name servers here # # # MSU name servers # nameserver 35.8.2.41 nameserver 35.8.2.41 nameserver 128.247.160.56 # # Other servers -- hopefully something will work if needed #shadooby.cc.umich.edu nameserver 35.1.1.91 #ns.nasa.gov nameserver 128.102.16.10 You will need to reboot your computer for the new nameservers to take effect. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 02:32:07 -0600 From: Benoit.Marchant@questintl.com Subject: New NFS Client for NextStep, OS 4.1, O.S 4.2 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Message-ID: <864458820.17741@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi, I experience troubles using an NT Server as a file server througth NFS with OpenStep 4.1 Clients. Other people got the same troubles with SGI servers. I rode in this thread that NeXT had a patch for it ? NeXT, is it correct ? If it is not possible to be supported by NeXT itself, would it be possible for someone with that knowledge and a bit of time to adapt the NFS Client of Linux for which source code is available to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for Mach ? Best regards, Benoit Marchant -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 23 May 1997 19:46:54 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5m4s7e$23c@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> Organisation: RRR "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell > Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. [...] > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where > it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets > to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: > NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 [...] > Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? Hi Robert, i had exactly the same problem with the same drive. It doesn't even work after installing from a different CD-drive. I think it's because the NEC is ATAPI 2.5 and NeXT supports only ATAPI 2.1. So get a different drive. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
From: Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Selective Display of files in Workspace Manager ? Date: 24 May 1997 14:54:46 +0200 Organization: Apatheia Corp. Sender: gewil@ue801be Distribution: world Message-ID: <x7bu61xc6h.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Can I configure Workspace Manager in a way that it wouldn't display all of the files in a given directory: it should omit those with a certain extension or those whose names match a special regexp ? Thanks for your hints. Gerald -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Gerald Wildgruber No one can have an idea gewil@ue801be.ppp. once he starts really lrz-muenchen.de listening. - John Cage (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Selective Display of files in Workspace Manager ? Date: 24 May 1997 13:29:50 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m6qge$7em$1@news2.apple.com> References: <x7bu61xc6h.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> In article <x7bu61xc6h.fsf@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> Gerald Wildgruber <gewil@ue801be.ppp.lrz-muenchen.de> writes: > > Can I configure Workspace Manager in a way that it wouldn't display all of > the files in a given directory: it should omit those with a certain > extension or those whose names match a special regexp ? You can create a file called ".hidden" in any directory, and list in there the files you don't want normally displayed. But it doesn't do pattern matching - they have to be the exact file names. Then you can override that filtering by switching to unix expert mode using the preferences app. joe
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Dvorak keyboard layout? Date: 24 May 97 19:03:31 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFACEC09-51CC4@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Can anyone give me pointers for setting up a Dvorak keyboard layout? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com (Jin Yu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OS for Mach NXHost to OS for non-Mach Date: 25 May 1997 00:20:57 GMT Organization: DEC Systems Research Center Message-ID: <5m80l9$cjq@src-news.pa.dec.com> Can you run an app from OPENSTEP for Mach (whether intel, sparc, or motorola) and have it displayed (NXHost'ed) to an OPENSTEP for non-Mach machine (winnt, solaris) ? I have heard that you can run apps from OS for Mach and display it to OS for WinNT, but not visa versa... Specificly, I would like to know whether it is possible to display apps from OS for Mach to OS for Solaris. Please reply by email. Thanks. Jin
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@BellAtlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStation as X terminal? Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:20:21 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3387A1E2.60AD@BellAtlantic.net> References: <1997051911435282315@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> <5m1mdj$ro5$3@news.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > I've got a b/w-NeXTStation (68040, 8 MB RAM) running NEXTSTEP > 2.1. Could I turn it into an X terminal? To reduce administration, > it would be best if, after booting, the NeXT already displayed the > login screen of another machine (running e.g. Linux). Is that > feasable? You could take a look at XNeXT. It is a shareware X11R6 server for NeXTstep. I'm not certain that it will run on NS 2.1 but you can give it a try. To get the thing to boot into the login screen you need to run some special program to create a login window on your X terminal/NeXT and make the XNeXT.app an autolaunch program in the NeXTstep dock. Look on www.peak.org for XNeXT.app - Jeff Dutky
From: Jon@uts.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: *writers/seeking/publication Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:53:42 Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5m89g7$ec6$98@news.internetmci.com> We are the International Literary Agency of New York. We also have 2 other branches, one in the Lake George region of New York and the other in Marco Island, Florida, consequently we are able to accept new clients. Please adhere strictly to the following guidelines for submission of all fiction & nonfiction. Fiction: Brief synopsis, first chapter, self-addressed, stamped envelope (S.A.S.E.) Nonfiction: Brief synopsis, first chapter, S.A.S.E. Screenplays: (for TV & Movies) Brief synopsis, first 20 pages, S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Brief synopsis, first 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send in 3 of your best poems only, S.A.S.E. Woodside International Literary Agency 1190 North Collier Blvd. Marco Island, Florida 34145 (941) 642-9660 Please do not send in complete manuscript unless invited.
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Can't get networking up with Prelude... Date: 24 May 97 23:12:04 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFAD2648-12CD95@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy Can anyone point me to some decent info on getting networking started under NeXT? Should I be editing my files in etc? I seem to be blatantly ignored when I do this. Or should I use SimpleNetworkStarter? When I use this I am once again ignored. It says configuration is succesfull, but then goes back to the default IP address of 192.42.172.1 the next time I run it. I have no idea where it got that address. Or should I use netInfoManager? This also doesn't seem to work, but it does seem to keep my changes each time I run it. thanks, rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: Prelude won't install DeveloperLibs Date: 24 May 97 23:17:51 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFAD27A6-131FAF@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.programmer When I try to install the DeveloperLibs from the Prelude Openstep Developer CD (on Mach) the installer seems to crash (it just disapears without doing anything). If I open the installer app and then open the DeveloperLibs package through that I can install it. However, I had problems the last time I did it. I had to reboot for a different reason, and during the reboot some errors came up when loading some libraries (something about an invalid CPU type) and wouldn't let me go any further. I had to reinstall. Anyone else get around this? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Prelude won't install DeveloperLibs Date: 25 May 1997 03:45:47 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5m8clb$3j4$1@news.digifix.com> References: <AFAD27A6-131FAF@141.214.134.235> In-Reply-To: <AFAD27A6-131FAF@141.214.134.235> Note that I've changed the newsgroups slightly On 05/24/97, "Robert A. Decker" wrote: > > When I try to install the DeveloperLibs from the Prelude Openstep >Developer CD (on Mach) the installer seems to crash (it just disapears >without doing anything). > > If I open the installer app and then open the DeveloperLibs package >through that I can install it. However, I had problems the last time I did >it. I had to reboot for a different reason, and during the reboot some >errors came up when loading some libraries (something about an invalid CPU >type) and wouldn't let me go any further. I had to reinstall. > > Anyone else get around this? > I had a similar problem attempting to install the 4.2 Prelude as a upgrade on a 4.1 machine... Something ended up munching some pretty important files and that machine won't boot... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Date: 25 May 1997 03:57:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "H.W. Stockman" <hwstock@mail.swcp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc Subject: Re: Why Crays are fast Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 16:39:58 -0600 Organization: myself Message-ID: <33876E3E.4EDB@mail.swcp.com> References: <SWESTIN.97Apr16114909@dsg145.nad.ford.com> <5j3mqo$bu9$1@news.skylink.net> <335B70D5.5AAF@jpmorgan.com> <336130F8.1C3B@maths.kst.dit.ie> <E9EnIM.uz.B.mary@bath.ac.uk> <336D871D.6ED4@virginia.edu> <pxpst2+-0805971129270001@pelli.pathology.pitt.edu> <01bc5f8f$ba994460$15621ecb@homer.effect.net.au> <cgray-2305972230120001@dal160.metronet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Charles Gray wrote: > Cray claims their T3E-900 can achieve 1.8 teraflops: > > http://www.cray.com/PUBLIC/product-info/T3E/CRAY_T3E-900.html I don't believe Cray has ever put together a configuration that achieves the stated estimate. Perhaps I am naive, but I think it will take more than delivering a bunch of cabinets to the same room to get the speculated performance. ------------------------------ Harlan W. Stockman hwstock@swcp.com
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: 25 May 1997 09:43:13 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5m91jh$4ma$2@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > You need to setup an /etc/resolv.conf > > The second thing is a list of name servers. These should be local to your > ppp provider. Your network administrator will be able to provide you with > the appropriate addresses. There are default name servers to use in case > the local provider is not responding. An example file might look like: > I haven't been able to figure out how to setup two NEXTSTEP machines networked together where one of them has the modem and connects to the ISP with ppp. The other one doesn't get the domain service. Should the other one automatically get domain name service from the one running ppp if the first is a NetInfo client of the second? I haven't been able to get the client to be a client. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
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From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 07:04:14 -0600 Organization: Northwestern University Message-ID: <j-norstad-2505970704140001@legume186134.nuts.nwu.edu> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> In article <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com>, jinyu@eagle.pa.dec.com (Jin Yu) wrote: > I missed the WWDC I went and did the Rhapsody track. I'll try to answer your questions. > 1. Will Rhapsody support multi-user / time-sharing ? > Nextstep does, ie. many users can login and work on one machine > simultaneous. Yes. You can set up multiple UNIX usernames and passwords. You can telnet to your Rhapsody box. Rhapsody will have the usual UNIX file system permissions. > 2. Will Rhapsody support a network-transparent window system? > Nextstep does, ie. a user may login to a remote Next, and run a graphical > application with the -NSHost (or -NXHost) switch, and have the > application displayed at his/her local Next. (how to integrate DPS and > QuickDraw to support remote display?) This remote display feature is a > common sense in the Unix/X world too. Sorry, I don't know about this one. > 3. Will Rhapsody have a Unix-like shell and various Unix utilities? > Nextstep does, ie. 4.3BSD on top of Mach, and it has all the standard > Unix utilities under /bin and /usr/bin. Yes. Rhapsody will have the full BSD 4.4 distribution as an optional-install item. -- John Norstad <mailto:j-norstad@nwu.edu> <http://charlotte.acns.nwu.edu/jln/>
From: johnkl@globalxs.nl (John Klijnen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 18:40:02 +0100 Organization: GlobalXS, the Netherlands Message-ID: <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: > > And as for context-sensitive menus, I much prefer a stable menubar > > that gives me general information on EVERYTHING I can do without > > any clicks, and specific information with one click. With a > > contextual menu, it's more confusing; where's the Shutdown command, > > in every contextual menu? It takes up extra space. If not, then > > where do you have to click to shut down? It's confusing. > > This is absolutely silly. Without a doubt, one of the greatest > things about win95 is the context sensitive menu bar. It saves a > TON of mouse travel, and if you don't want to use it you don't have > to. It simple puts under the mouse, a menu of all the things that > are not dimmed under the regular menu when selecting an item. Who > the heck wants to select a file, then go find the right menu choice > in one of the menus, when one can simply click on the object and > do it all in one fell swoop. I hate windows95 with a great passion, > but even my bias doesn't cloud over this...this kind of functionality > is an advance over the old status, stagnant, quo that is the mac > UI... The fact is that the popup menu's are not an invention of Microsoft! IBM's OS2 has been using them for as long as it has a GUI. And yes they are very practical. But for this you need a mouse with at least 2 buttons. This is not very practical because we all would have to buy new mouses;-( -- ---- John Klijnen http://www.globalxs.nl/home/j/johnkl/Johnkl.html Last update 14-5-1997
From: NoSpa.Mgustilo@mail.med.upenn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Can't get networking up with Prelude... Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 11:00:30 -0400 Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <NoSpa.Mgustilo-2505971100410001@ts5-1.upenn.edu> References: <AFAD2648-12CD95@141.214.134.235> In article <AFAD2648-12CD95@141.214.134.235>, "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > Can anyone point me to some decent info on getting networking started > under NeXT? > > Should I be editing my files in etc? I seem to be blatantly ignored when > I do this. > > Or should I use SimpleNetworkStarter? When I use this I am once again > ignored. It says configuration is succesfull, but then goes back to the > default IP address of 192.42.172.1 the next time I run it. I have no idea > where it got that address. > > Or should I use netInfoManager? This also doesn't seem to work, but it > does seem to keep my changes each time I run it. I don't use NeXt but you can try: http://www.devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html ----------- Bicycle Crash Test Dummy for Hire gustilo@mail.med.upenn.edu
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From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 25 May 1997 15:49:48 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5m9n2s$3lr$1@news2.digex.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]> johnkl@globalxs.nl (John Klijnen) wrote: > IBM's OS2 has been using them for as long as it has a GUI. And > yes they are very practical. But for this you need a mouse with > at least 2 buttons. This is not very practical because we all > would have to buy new mouses;-( I don't think buying a mouse for 30bux is all too much to ask for that functionality. In the mean time, an alt click can be employed for those whose are reluctant to invest in a two button mouse. I tend to thing that a lot of people will opt and buy a two button mouse if they see the functional benefits. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: Donald_Brown@cesoft.com (Donald Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:29:08 -0500 Organization: CE Software Message-ID: <AFAE0B449668EE65@dsm-ia2-08.ix.netcom.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]> In article <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]>, johnkl@globalxs.nl (John Klijnen) wrote: > The fact is that the popup menu's are not an invention of Microsoft! >IBM's OS2 has been using them for as long as it has a GUI. And yes they >are very practical. But for this you need a mouse with at least 2 >buttons. This is not very practical because we all would have to buy new >mouses;-( Check out the feature list for OS8. Popup menus can indeed be implemented without a two button mouse, and will be. Donald
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From: alex@_nospam_EagleChair.com (Aleksei M. Kac) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 19:18:31 -0600 Organization: Web Information Solutions Message-ID: <alex-2505971918320001@192.168.1.3> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]> <AFAE0B449668EE65@dsm-ia2-08.ix.netcom.com> In article <AFAE0B449668EE65@dsm-ia2-08.ix.netcom.com>, Donald_Brown@cesoft.com (Donald Brown) wrote: : In article <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]>, : johnkl@globalxs.nl (John Klijnen) wrote: : > The fact is that the popup menu's are not an invention of Microsoft! : >IBM's OS2 has been using them for as long as it has a GUI. And yes they : >are very practical. But for this you need a mouse with at least 2 : >buttons. This is not very practical because we all would have to buy new : >mouses;-( : : Check out the feature list for OS8. Popup menus can indeed be implemented : without a two button mouse, and will be. : One neat feature of the Kensington 2 and four button mice (I chose the 2 button), is that AUTOMATICALLY, you get contextual menus for a host of apps like Excel, Photoshop, and others. It really works well. In photoshop, when I select a tool, or am in a certain state, holding down the right mouse button brings up a menu of what I most likely would select from the menu. VERY cool. The best part is that the Kensington SW lets me customize this action for every App I have..including the Finder. Anyhow, can't wait for REAL contextual menus built in to the OS. -- Web Information Solutions <http://www.ProMotors.com/wis.html> <mailto:alex@EagleChair.com> Just take the _spam_ out of my email to reply...
From: bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: 26 May 1997 01:33:30 GMT Organization: FreedomNet - Your Full Service Internet Provider Message-ID: <5map9a$5o3$1@news.freedomnet.com> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> <5m91jh$4ma$2@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) wrote: >In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: >> You need to setup an /etc/resolv.conf > >I haven't been able to figure out how to setup two NEXTSTEP machines >networked together where one of them has the modem and connects to the >ISP with ppp. The other one doesn't get the domain service. Should the >other one automatically get domain name service from the one running ppp >if the first is a NetInfo client of the second? I haven't been able to >get the client to be a client. > Automatically, no. DNS resolution happens directly from each host. All machines that use DNS must be able to send/recieve IP packets to the DNS server. In your situation, if you have the network configured so that your machine that is not directly connected to the ISP *can* send and receive packets to the ISP (ie. ping the DNS server) then you should be able to just set up the resolv.conf file or set up the proper entries into NetInfo (see the on-line manual). If you set up the entries into a shared Netinfo domain, then both machines should have the proper DNS information (much easier than creating resolv.conf files on every machine). However, if there is no route from the machine not directly connected to the ISP, then you cannot get DNS to work directly to the ISP. You have three options. Run a DNS server on your first machine is one option, but since your second machine isn't "directly" connected, this doesn't help much. You can now resolve names but you can't do anything with the addresses. Another option is to set up a proxy server on your ISP connected machine. Something like squid can proxy http, ftp, gopher, etc. transfers from a web browser. In this scenario, you cannot directly ftp or telnet to the Internet on your non-ISP connected host, but you can use OmniWeb through the first machine to access the 'Net. No DNS configuration necessary or wanted on the second machine. This is how I do it. I run non-proxied apps on the ISP-connected machine with a -NXHost to display them on the non-ISP connected hosts. The final option is to get your networking configuration such that your second machine can "directly" send packets to the ISP (through the first). This involves changing your routing on both your local side and your ISP side if it hasn't been set up for this already. For additional references, look at a good TCP/IP book like the O'Reilly one. Good luck, -- Bill Chin - bchin@richmond.freedomnet.com - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Can't get networking up with Prelude... Date: 25 May 97 22:49:23 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFAE7278-79521@141.214.134.235> References: <NoSpa.Mgustilo-2505971100410001@ts5-1.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy Nevermind, I didn't realize that I'd have to poweroff to have the changes take effect. thanks, rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: steve_sullivan@hotmail.com (steve) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 26 May 1997 05:02:19 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Message-ID: <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! > > Its finally here Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow > > We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! You need to take the lies off your web page saying you are the first to have wireless internet access!!
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: 26 May 1997 06:58:54 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5mbcbe$7$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> <5m91jh$4ma$2@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5map9a$5o3$1@news.freedomnet.com> Cc: bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com In <5map9a$5o3$1@news.freedomnet.com> Bill Chin wrote: > decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) wrote: > >In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > >> You need to setup an /etc/resolv.conf > > > >I haven't been able to figure out how to setup two NEXTSTEP machines > >networked together where one of them has the modem and connects to the > >ISP with ppp. The other one doesn't get the domain service. Should the > >other one automatically get domain name service from the one running ppp > >if the first is a NetInfo client of the second? I haven't been able to > >get the client to be a client. > > > > This is > how I do it. I run non-proxied apps on the ISP-connected > machine with a -NXHost to display them on the non-ISP connected > hosts. The final option is to get your networking > configuration such that your second machine can "directly" > send packets to the ISP (through the first). This involves changing > your routing on both your local side and your ISP side if it > hasn't been set up for this already. > > For additional references, look at a good TCP/IP book like > the O'Reilly one. Doing the NXHost thing is my workaround as well. But I can't believe there isn't a ready made solution for NEXTSTEP. I shouldn't have to muck with a TCP/IP book. Does anyone know the way it's "supposed" to be done? -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: 26 May 1997 14:50:40 GMT Organization: FreedomNet - Your Full Service Internet Provider Message-ID: <5mc800$2fe$1@news.freedomnet.com> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> <5m91jh$4ma$2@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5map9a$5o3$1@news.freedomnet.com> <5mbcbe$7$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) wrote: >Doing the NXHost thing is my workaround as well. But I can't believe >there isn't a ready made solution for NEXTSTEP. I shouldn't have to muck >with a TCP/IP book. Does anyone know the way it's "supposed" to be done? Sure. You sign up for "LAN" access to an ISP. You get a bank of IP addresses and they set up their side, including the routing entries to route your subnet. Ie. an 8 bit subnet would have a bank of 256 ip addresses, of which really 254 are usable. Pick an IP address for the ppp0 interface. Ie. xxx.xxx.xxx.2 Pick an IP address for the en0 interface on your ppp host, ie. xxx.xxx.xxx.1 Your ISP should set up a route to your subnet through your ppp0 interface. Assign IP addresses from your bank of addresses to the other hosts on your network. They should use your ppp server as the gateway or default router. The ppp distribution will turn on IP forwarding, so now your ppp server is a gateway for your subnet to your ISP. To recap: Your ISP assigns you a bank of IP addresses: There's a starting and ending address, with corresponding netmask and broadcast addresses. They set up the routing on their side. You assign the appropriate IP addresses, netmask, broadcast address, gateway, including setting up the PPP connection. Use traceroute and ping to debug. More permutations exist - there are a bunch of ways to get this to work, but the above is the most straightforward and common. Again, this isn't NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP specific. You are just connecting two TCP/IP networks together. Of course, you have to use the proper NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP configuration tools and so on. Or, buy a dedicated router. -- Bill Chin - bchin@richmond.freedomnet.com - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: domain name server Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:13:24 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8nWQGo600Uzx420FxG@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <338603B1.3C74@diehlgraphsoft.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523230156.23966B-100000@kira> <5m91jh$4ma$2@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5map9a$5o3$1@news.freedomnet.com> <5mbcbe$7$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 26-May-97 Re: domain name server by L e e Altenberg@no_junk_ >> For additional references, look at a good TCP/IP book like >> the O'Reilly one. > > Doing the NXHost thing is my workaround as well. But I can't believe > there isn't a ready made solution for NEXTSTEP. I shouldn't have to muck > with a TCP/IP book. Does anyone know the way it's "supposed" to be done? Someone else already gave a more detailed explanation of what you need to do; I just wanted to point out that NEXTSTEP runs on top of Unix, and this type of networking question is completely generic (ie, not NEXTSTEP-specific at all). O'Reilly's "TCP/IP Network Administration" book really is the best source of information. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AVAILABLE: Free QuickCam driver Message-ID: <1997May26.161006.98629@cc.usu.edu> From: edx@cc.usu.edu Date: 26 May 97 16:10:06 MDT Distribution: world I've uploaded NXCam.app, a free driver/application for the monochrome Connectix QuickCam to the submissions directory on Peak and Peanuts. What directory it ends up in is anybody's guess. To use NXCam, you will need NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.3 or higher, a bidirectional-capable parallel port, and a monochrome Connectix QuickCam. NXCam allows you to acquire single frames from the camera and store them to disk as tiff images, or to acquire multiple frames and store them to disk in ".anim" or QuickTime format. Frames shown in the display-well can be copied to the pasteboard and pasted to other applications, or dragged directly out of the display-well into any other application that supports drag-and-drop of TIFF data. Happy trails!
From: goldwass@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu (Lloyd Goldwasser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dvorak keyboard layout? Date: 26 May 1997 20:40:02 GMT Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara Message-ID: <5mcsf3$n5m@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> References: <AFACEC09-51CC4@141.214.134.235> "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > > Can anyone give me pointers for setting up a Dvorak keyboard layout? > /NextDeveloper/Demos/Keyboard.app lets you easily set up any layout you want; you then put the resulting *.keymapping file in /LocalLibrary/Keyboards or ~/Library/Keyboards and it appears as an option in Preferences. Since you're asking, you probably know that the basic Dvorak layout is ' , . P Y F G C R L A O E U I D H T N S ; Q J K X B M W V Z and that it's much nicer than QWERTY. After using the Dvorak layout for a while, I came up with my own variant, which feels yet more comfortable and streamlined: ' , . Y J F G C R L A O E I U D H T N S ; X Z P K B M W Q V The main change is the switching of I and U, so that the more common of the two letters is under the left index finger in resting position; and the shuffling of Y, P, and K, so that Y, which is more common than K, is not so far away from the action. Also, having Q under the right hand makes the Q-U-vowel combinations less awkward. I would be happy to NeXTmail you (or anyone else) my lg.keymapping file; just ask. I have no idea whether they're still there, but the last time this topic came up, mmalcolm crawford posted that he'd put copies of both versions at ftp://ftp.dcs.shef.ac.uk/home/malc/NEXTSTEP/Keyboards/ Lloyd Goldwasser goldwass@lifesci.lscf.ucsb.edu
From: grotskos@compulink.gr (Gabriel Rotskos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 10:47:39 GMT Organization: CompuLink Network S.A. Message-ID: <338ab398.11314288@news.compulink.gr> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> On 19 May 1997 17:45:20 GMT, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >This is absolutely silly. Without a doubt, one of the greatest >things about win95 is the context sensitive menu bar. It saves a >TON of mouse travel, and if you don't want to use it you don't have >to. It simple puts under the mouse, a menu of all the things that >are not dimmed under the regular menu when selecting an item. Who >the heck wants to select a file, then go find the right menu choice >in one of the menus, when one can simply click on the object and >do it all in one fell swoop. I hate windows95 with a great passion, >but even my bias doesn't cloud over this...this kind of functionality >is an advance over the old status, stagnant, quo that is the mac >UI... I thought that the greatest thing about win95 is the taskbar, which is similar to Apple's menu bar. It is usually at the bottom of the screen and not at the top and it was not designed correctly (you can overshoot the buttons), but it has the Start button (Apple menu), the clock, shows which application is in the foreground (not always correctly, because under Windows applications that need attention come to the front automatically, causing all sorts of problems) etc. As for the context sensitive menus, MacOS 8 has them, so Rhapsody will have them, too. Another cool idea is the tear-off menus that turn to pallettes, like the ones MacPaint had. I've heard that NeXTSTEP had something similar, but you are the expert there. With these, you can keep the menus you use a lot near your work area. And let's not forget speech recognition. An older version allowed you to speak out any menu command, but it was sacrificed in newer versions in order to provide better recognition. Gabe
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,il.jobs.offered Subject: NEXT/Career Position/ILL Date: 27 May 1997 12:06:49 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <5meiop$5ql@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXT----Commercial experience OBJ C----Commercial experience EOF-------A Plus Career Position---Excellent benefits Opportunity-------Exceptional Relocation--------Company assistance Area--------------Greater Chicago Area To Be Considered--Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AVAILABLE: Free QuickCam driver Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 05:44:35 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527053429.17194A-100000@kira> References: <1997May26.161006.98629@cc.usu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: edx@cc.usu.edu In-Reply-To: <1997May26.161006.98629@cc.usu.edu> On 26 May 1997 edx@cc.usu.edu wrote: > I've uploaded NXCam.app, a free driver/application for the > monochrome Connectix QuickCam to the submissions directory > on Peak and Peanuts. What directory it ends up in is anybody's > guess. Well, it's better than a guess that it will end up at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/ http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/ no matter what it is, and stay there for about a month In this case, the driver went to ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/new_arrivals/NXCam.1.0.I.b.tar.gz http://www.peak.org/next/new_arrivals/NXCam.1.0.I.b.tar.gz which is really a link to ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/drivers/misc/NXCam.1.0.I.b.tar.gz http://www.peak.org/next/drivers/misc/NXCam.1.0.I.b.tar.gz Drop us a note when you submit things to PEAK and we'll let you know where they should end up (unless you have a suggestion). Most will be filed within 24hrs... or less if I actually know they are there ;-) TjL -- Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Submissions Coordinator, PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP site http://www.peak.org/next/ aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ http://www.peak.org/openstep aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/openstep
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Configuring mail? Date: 27 May 97 21:23:51 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFB1016F-66E41@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy I'd like to set up my Prelude box to be able to use the mail application. Do I have to use sendmail for this? Do I have to edit the cf file? Please tell me I don't. It seems like a bit of overkill. Can I use netinfomanager? All I want to do is set up my box to connect to my imap server at the University and download my mail, and connect to my smtp server when I send mail. thanks, rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: sjohnson@myriad.net (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 28 May 1997 06:57:15 GMT Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885 Message-ID: <5mgl0b$5jk@news.myriad.net> References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> In-Reply-To: <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> On 05/25/97, steve wrote: >In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > >> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! >> >> Its finally here > > >Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > No, you got me. But I'm curious what is richochet? -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net@ Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717 "the Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests" President Andrew Jackson, June 8, 1845 NOTE: delete the second @ to email to me.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software From: roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) Subject: NFS-Automounting from WIN NT (Hummingbird NFS) Message-ID: <EAvts0.F5@onevision.de> Keywords: nfs,automount,nextstep,nt Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 08:19:12 GMT Hello, I am currently evaluting the Hummingbird NFS Server for Win NT4.0 on our NT Server. I am in need to export some drives from NT to our NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Machines via NFS. I have exported the drives in netinfo domain / with bg,net,timeo=6 option to /Net. With 4.1 and up there is no problem with automounting them. With 3.3 (half of our machines) I can not automount that drives. It is just not working. No error nothing. Just a few seconds of spinning mousecursor. But I can do a 'mount -t nfs ntserver:/d/test /test' on 3.3. What is not working is automounting... My NFS setup is correct. Mounting by hand works every time on every version of the operationg system I have handy. Any ideas? I need to mount them. Or has anyone a better suggestion for a NT NFS server software? Thanks, Roland -- ============================================================================ Roland Schwingel OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Developer, SysAdmin Zeissstrasse 9 Email:roland@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ============================================================================
From: ngervae@sirius.{REMOVE-THIS}.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HP LaserJet 6MP Date: 28 May 1997 08:04:51 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5mgov3$75b@sun.sirius.com> Has anybody had any luck hooking up a LaserJet 6MP to an Intel box using the parallel port? I know I need a PPD file, but is there anything else? Any info is most appreciated! Please reply by email to ngervae @ sirius.com nik @ pdi.com Thanks. --Nik
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From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dvorak keyboard layout? Date: 28 May 1997 13:01:20 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <5mhab0$89v$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <AFACEC09-51CC4@141.214.134.235> <5mcsf3$n5m@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> In-Reply-To: <5mcsf3$n5m@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> On 05/26/97, Lloyd Goldwasser wrote: >I have no idea whether they're still there, but the last time this >topic came up, mmalcolm crawford posted that he'd put copies of both >versions at > > ftp://ftp.dcs.shef.ac.uk/home/malc/NEXTSTEP/Keyboards/ > Yup, they're still there. Many thanks for the originals Lloyd. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Andrew Y Ng <ayng@platinum.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Configuring mail? Date: 28 May 1997 11:06:14 -0500 Organization: PLATINUM technology, Inc Message-ID: <87206rfuo9.fsf@Ngbert.vt.platinum.com> References: <AFB1016F-66E41@141.214.134.235> >>>>> "Decker" == Robert A Decker <comrade@umich.edu> writes: Decker> I'd like to set up my Prelude box to be able to use the Decker> mail application. Do I have to use sendmail for this? Do Decker> I have to edit the cf file? Please tell me I don't. It Decker> seems like a bit of overkill. well, that's pretty easy to configure actually... but if u don't feel like touching sendmail, u can try PopOver, it works with POP[23], and IMAP2. so u can use PopOver to download mails and setup the smtp delivery in Mail to send outgoing mails... //folks, correct me if i were wrong... :) /ayn -- Andrew Y Ng | <ayng@platinum.com> | http://andrew.Ngbert.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- (-) please finger ayn@CMU.EDU if u need more info...
From: tony@wildfire.com (Tony Lovell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 19 May 1997 16:23:38 GMT Organization: Wildfire Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5lpuqa$nkl@gnus.wildfire.com> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Cc: samchow@idt.net In <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> Samuel Chow wrote: > Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, > > Although this is still a rumor for now, it seems that Rhapsody will > eventually > integrate the Mac Finder's Look and Feel. The only problem that I have > with > this is that dreaded White manubar strip. > > In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common > menubar is not > the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window > menubar. Under > this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here > are the > reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme Ugh.. Window menu bars do the following unacceptable things: 1. Confuse the concept of Application and Document. I'm closing a window. Or am I? I might be making the application quit. In windows, there is no way to separate these two altogether distinct actions. 2. Wastes screen space. This is just one of the many things (along with toolbars) that MS does to make my investment in a large monitor yield me very little. In terms of respecting my need to use screen space efficiently, the best is Next's system (as I can remove the menus altogether), and next is Apple's (as each menu appears only once). tone
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS May Quiz - hints, new rules, deadline extended Date: 28 May 1997 16:50:12 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet/PING Austria Message-ID: <5mhno4$1gi$1@news.Austria.EU.net> Last call (!) for the SSS May quiz on http://members.ping.at/stefan/quiz.html Drawing rules have been changed on the fly - you now have a chance to win with only 1/3 or 2/3 correct answers. The more you get right, the better your odds are. And the May quiz page now contains THREE HINTS! The deadline has been extended from June 1 to June 15. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer 1.3 or LatinByrd II/III license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). And here's even TWO MORE HINTS: 1) No, #1 is not Steve Jobs. 2) No, #2 is not Steve Wozniak. Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://members.ping.at/stefan/
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Dvorak keyboard layout? Date: 28 May 97 14:30:49 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFB1F21E-37CA22@141.214.134.235> References: <199705260331.XAA15588@sps1.phys.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc I got my NeXTmail working. Can you send me those Dvorak layouts? thanks, rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: dae51d@TheMatrix.com (Daevid Vincent) Subject: VOTE: boot needs your vote Message-ID: <51c7cd$e34d.e3@news.eznet.net> Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 19:52:13 GMT Organization: The Matrix ATTENTION: boot Magazine is seriously considering coverage of other platforms. So, if you would like to cast your vote for an OS you'd like to see covered in an awsome mag, then go to: http://www.bootnet.com/opinion.html and vote! every little bit helps, Daevid.
From: glhansen@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Gregory Loren Hansen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: 28 May 1997 20:03:15 GMT Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington Message-ID: <5mi323$8sa$1@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <anon-ya02408000R1705970333540001@news.cyberspc.mb.ca> In article <anon-ya02408000R1705970333540001@news.cyberspc.mb.ca>, No One <anon@non.non> wrote: >In article <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > >> Dear NeXT/Apple Gurus, > > >> In my opinion, I feel that there are plenty of reasons why a common >> menubar is not >> the way to go. Instead, the UI desgin should incorporate the Window >> menubar. Under >> this scheme, every application would have a menu bar in its window. Here >> are the >> reasons why I feel that Apple should go for this scheme The Windows menus are one of the things I originally thought was pretty ugly about Windows. And it's made worse by having the application window and document windows. It's probably mostly an aesthetic choice, but the single menu bar keeps the windows cleaner and it's easier to arrange windows on a busy screen in a useful way. And the menu bar can be larger than the window you're working in. I see no functional different between the two options, except that you'll have to find someplace else to put the menu items that aren't related to your application, like the apple menu, the application menu, and the time. I also have a MacSLIP menu and an OSA menu in my menu bar. Hopefully the Appearance Manager will give you some options in that area. Like the traditional Finder look, menu bars in windows with the extra items in a Win95-style task bar located at the bottom, top, or left or right sides as you prefer, or the NeXT-style pop-up menus. -- "Hey, wait a minute. You've got both eyes! You're no special agent. You're just some jerk who hates my moustache!" - The Tick
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From: juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de (Juergen Albertsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Configuring mail? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:22:55 GMT Organization: Private Message-ID: <338c71d0.4520750@news.allcon.net> References: <AFB1016F-66E41@141.214.134.235> > I'd like to set up my Prelude box to be able to use the mail application. >Do I have to use sendmail for this? Do I have to edit the cf file? Please >tell me I don't. It seems like a bit of overkill. You have to use sendmail. Remember that OpenStep/Mach is still designed for large networked environments and not so much for home use. I think this will -- and has to -- change in the future. Apart from this, sendmail is a standard program and quite rebust. With an appropriate config interface it shouldn't bother anyone. > Can I use netinfomanager? Please read the docs in /NextLibrary/Documentation/NextAdmin (or something like this. I don't have access to a NeXT machine right now). There's a document covering sendmail. > All I want to do is set up my box to connect to my imap server at the >University and download my mail, and connect to my smtp server when I send >mail. To achieve this you have to set up PPP. Unfortunately, this is not too easy for someone who doesn't. have UNIX experience. I think because NeXT wanted to give up their OS they were not to keen on implementing a sophistictaed interface to PPP. In the /NextLibrary/Documentation hierarchy there's a diretoriy called ReleaseNotes -- where you will find a doc about PPP. Maybe you should consult a UNIX guru you trust -- if you're not a UNIX guru yourself. To receive email using IMAP you can use PopOver available at http://peanuts.leo.org and other NeXTSTEP archives. Have fun! Jürgen --- Jürgen Albertsen juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de Face the facts -- forget euphoria!
From: sschaper@inlink.com (sschaper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXTStep 3.1 Intel and IDE CD-ROM?? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 19:23:17 -0500 Organization: InLink Message-ID: <sschaper-2805971923170001@iits01134.inlink.com> I just received NeXTStep 3.1 (shrinkwrapped no less), for Intel. Unfortunately the machine to install it on only has IDE drives, including the CD-ROM. Has anyone found a way to do the installation with such a configuration? It has been something like four years since the documentation was written. NeXT Answers did not provide any obvious solutions for 3.1. I would really like to get this up and running. Also, can it be made to dual boot with Windows NT 4.0, or even triple-boot with Win95? --Steve sschaper@inlink.com -- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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From: stephlise@telco.com (Steph & Lise) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 22:38:16 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.336b11f8.7054567@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Subject: cmsg cancel <336b11f8.7054567@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Control: cancel <336b11f8.7054567@hiroken.hiroken.or.jp> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Thu May 29 11:25:12 1997 Original subject was: Cum visit our free BBS
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXTStep 3.1 Intel and IDE CD-ROM?? Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 06:10:57 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970529060848.6816A-100000@kira> References: <sschaper-2805971923170001@iits01134.inlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: sschaper <sschaper@inlink.com> In-Reply-To: <sschaper-2805971923170001@iits01134.inlink.com> > I would really like to get this up and running. Not to be a downer, but good luck.... 3.1 had its own problems.... and you have the first Intel version of NS ever.... anything before 3.3 is hard on Intel..... 3.3 can still be hard.... 4.x is supposedly much easier.... The CD-ROM would be, I think, the least of your problems... all the drivers that are out now may not work with 3.1, so you have to hunt... Not syaing it can't be done... just that it probably can't be done easily... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Small Rhapsody page... Followup-To: poster Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 08:40:50 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970529083855.27267A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Ugh... I promised myself I wouldn't do this, but I came across a nice report on WWDC for those unable to make it... http://macos.apple.com/macos/releases/rhapsody/kleper_rpt_wwdc.html Sounds like some initial good press at least... TjL ps -- if necessary, please reply via email... I really don't want another Rhapsody cascade in csn.misc.... -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 09:54:19 -0700 Organization: Abacus Concepts, Inc. Message-ID: <338DB457.2579@abacus.com> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com> <*jc-2305972243290001@192.0.2.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Christie wrote: > In article <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com>, Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> wrote: > >> Yes. Long term, a Rhapsody will be Apple's server solutions, although I >> understand that the server line is sticking with AIX for the time >> being. I believe it's due to the fact that OpenStep doesn't scale well >> when you have lots of simultaneous users. > > The very next OS to be produced for Apple's 500 and 700 series servers > is Rhapsody. They are not waiting for any other reason than it ain't > ready. thye already cancelled updates to AIX. Interesting. The long-time NeXT guys tell me that NeXTStep has real issues as a server OS. Apparently, if you put more than twelve-or-so users on it at a time, it really bogs down. Also, there's a limit of 200 processes in NeXTStep, which is actually pretty low for even a client-side OS. To top it off, a NeXTStep system really needs the protection of a firewall -- security is definitely behind the levels defined by Solaris and AIX. Apple may have cancelled updates to AIX (and who can blame them), but they've got some work before Rhapsody is up to snuff as a standalone Server.
From: frsvnsvn@best.com (Kurt Werle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Configuring mail? Date: 29 May 1997 10:50:38 -0700 Organization: private Message-ID: <5mkfle$5c9@shellx.best.com> References: <AFB1016F-66E41@141.214.134.235> <338c71d0.4520750@news.allcon.net> In article <338c71d0.4520750@news.allcon.net>, Juergen Albertsen <juergen.albertsen@flensburg.netsurf.de> wrote: >> I'd like to set up my Prelude box to be able to use the mail application. >>Do I have to use sendmail for this? Do I have to edit the cf file? Please >>tell me I don't. It seems like a bit of overkill. > >You have to use sendmail. Oh, the lie!!! First thing I do with a new NeXT setup: replace sendmail with smail. The config is SO much easier (IMHO). I understand that there is a smail package for installing on NeXT machines, but I don't know offhand where it is... Let me know if you can't find it. Kurt
From: arpad@tezcat.com (Arpad Geller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Apache SSL -- SmartSoft?? Date: 29 May 1997 16:00:04 GMT Organization: Pink Flamingos Message-ID: <5mk964$3u1@news.dialisdn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm looking for a port of the Stronghold/Apache webserver for NeXTSTEP. Apparently, a company called SmartSoft out of Cedarburg, WI successfully released this but now the company has disappeared, for all practical purposes. Their phone is disconnected and they don't answer their emails. Does anyone have any information regarding this company or their ported SSL server?? Alternately, does anyone know of an ssl server that will run on NeXT (other then the $24,999 WebObjects)? Thanks. David Geller arpad@hotspice.com
From: Steve Kellener <skellener@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc Subject: Re: Get rid of the common menu bar strip Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 11:03:20 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <338DC4E7.6287@earthlink.net> References: <337BE3F9.EC5@idt.net> <alex-1605970134190001@dnet01-40.austin.texas.net> <337d87cb.5791918@news.demon.co.uk> <bates_andy-1905971019140001@news.tandem.com> <5lq3jg$920$2@news2.digex.net> <19970523184002419497@[143.178.241.22]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you own a Mac and would like to have "tear off" menus now, head over to: http://www.kagi.com/authors/marc/ Marc has a shareware conrtol panel that gives you this feature right now! Pretty cool! STEVE K.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 18:06:04 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EAyFM6.IFs@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <338DB457.2579@abacus.com> In article <338DB457.2579@abacus.com> Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> writes: > John Christie wrote: > Interesting. The long-time NeXT guys tell me that NeXTStep has real > issues as a server OS. NeXTStep is not a great choice as server OS, unless having a homogeneous system is really importanbt to you. Other OS's, and other CPU's (other than Intel) will do the job far better, and quite likly cheaper. However these are not necessarly issuese for a future release: > Apparently, if you put more than twelve-or-so > users on it at a time, it really bogs down. Quite likly. So will most single user workstations. I've seen Vax's running with >100 users. Their CPU performance was less than a NeXTStation yet they ground on somehow. Put two users on some FAST machines, and they jsut stop. There are both hardware and software issues here - PC hardware does you no favours, and NeXTStep isn't optimised for this. (also most servers don't have users logged into them - almost all processes will be system processes doing some kind of networking) > Also, there's a limit of > 200 processes in NeXTStep, which is actually pretty low for even a > client-side OS. Thats a #define in the source. Even the dumbest of programmers could fix that given access to the source. 200 is the right number for NeXTStep client - a future NS-Server may be different. > To top it off, a NeXTStep system really needs the > protection of a firewall -- security is definitely behind the levels > defined by Solaris and AIX. NeXTStep isn't the most secure, but then most OS's are pretty loose. Rhapsody is based on BSD4.4 not BSD4.3 so it should get a whole slew of upgrades, new server style features, and bug fixes. > Apple may have cancelled updates to AIX (and who can blame them), but > they've got some work before Rhapsody is up to snuff as a standalone > Server. Probably not much more work than they've aready done by using BSD4.4. Besides AIX is a total pig - the second worst Unix I ever used (after SNI's Sinix). The real crunch is that NS is close enough to doing the job that its really not worth keeping development going on two Unix derivatives. $an
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Rhapsody 68k? Date: 30 May 1997 02:27:04 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5mldto$1orc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> I have occationally heard roumers that Rhapsody >might< be made for older 68k macs. But I have heard nothing about Black NeXT machines. Does anyone know if 4.1 will be the end of line for my slab? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... (Having a little fun with spammers:) jesse_helms@helms.senate.gov president@whitehouse.gov E-Mail me with more addresses.
From: nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU (James Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Computer Modern fonts for NS Date: 30 May 1997 02:59:34 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <slrn5osgdo.699.nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU> Hi all, Yesterday I downloaded the set of public domain Computer Modern fonts packaged for NextStep at next-ftp.peak.org (the file BlueSkyFonts.tar.gz, currently in the new_arrivals directory). Thanks to Paul Sanchez for packaging these fonts. They work very well with TeX. I'm also interested in making the fonts work with other NextStep programs, though, like Openwrite.app. Is it possible to edit the font files to make the fonts work with both TeX and NextStep programs? Does anyone have experience messing around with those font files? I looked, but couldn't make much sense of the ascii files. Thanks! It'd be nice to have access to Computer Modern fonts in my standard NeXT apps. -jamey -- ********************************************************************** Jamey Nielsen hm (415) 960-1608 Terman 554 nielsen@leland.stanford.edu wk (415) 725-1597 ME Design Division http://www.stanford.edu/~nielsen/ Stanford, CA 94305
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Computer Modern fonts for NS Date: 30 May 1997 03:48:52 GMT Message-ID: <19970530034800.XAA08542@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <slrn5osgdo.699.nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU> If the fonts in question are metafonts, although it's doable, it's not really feasible. Metafonts are really different from other vector font formats, and I've only heard of two successful conversions. One was an autotracing, which although it worked, resulted in very large, not terribly high quality font files. The other was an algorithmic system which seemed to have good quality and to produce elegant fonts, but sparked a terrible flam war on comp.fonts regarding the protection of typeface designs. However, there is another, commercial alternative--Blue Sky Research and Y&Y <http://www.yandy.com> sell Adobe Type 1 Computer Modern Fonts, and will even supply them in NeXTStep format. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody 68k? Date: 30 May 1997 12:35:42 GMT Message-ID: <19970530123500.IAA03717@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5mldto$1orc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Actually, it seems to be 4.2, as it's being distributed now as the Rhapsody Prelude--do you have a spare $800? That's what it costs for the User version. Developer is $8,000 It's to be hoped that GNUStep <http://www.gnustep.org> will proceed apace. I'd like to put forth that everyone who looks forward to using this one day should consider purchasing a copy of the CD-ROM with the current distribution to help fund it. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: mcgredo@crl.crl.com (Donald R. McGregor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.graphics,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Rhapsody features? Date: 30 May 1997 09:09:49 -0700 Organization: Miskatonic University Department of Classics Message-ID: <5mmu4d$oji@crl.crl.com> References: <5lvn4l$tje@src-news.pa.dec.com> <3385FA0F.5439@abacus.com> <*jc-2305972243290001@192.0.2.1> <338DB457.2579@abacus.com> In article <338DB457.2579@abacus.com>, Jim Gagnon <jimg@abacus.com> wrote: >Interesting. The long-time NeXT guys tell me that NeXTStep has real >issues as a server OS. Apparently, if you put more than twelve-or-so >users on it at a time, it really bogs down. Also, there's a limit of >200 processes in NeXTStep, which is actually pretty low for even a >client-side OS. To top it off, a NeXTStep system really needs the >protection of a firewall -- security is definitely behind the levels >defined by Solaris and AIX. The NeXT OS was tuned as a client machine. It's not all that big of a deal for Apple to tweak some kernel parameters in a way that would hurt interactive performance but increase server performance; not unlike the "differences" between NT Workstation and NT Server. The Unix tools in the old release were a bit behind the times. I suspect the 4.4 BSD upgrade will fix a lot of that. -- Don McGregor | I did it for the children. mcgredo@crl.com |
From: pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu (Paul Furbacher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Prelude to Rhapsody installation ?s Date: 30 May 1997 15:46:30 GMT Organization: Biological Sciences, Purdue Univ. Message-ID: <pf-3005971051480001@biomedia-pf-2.bio.purdue.edu> I want to install "Prelude", but I don't want to sacrifice my existing Win 95 setup (with hundreds of apps, mostly dev software). The installation notes seem to think that a person would, of course, not have anything on their machine already, and maybe want to leave a DOS partition. That's not reasonable. Most of us still have *real* work that needs to get done. "Prelude" is for afterhours. How do I install "Prelude" without disrupting my current setup? (No, I will not re-install the Windows side, just to make room for "Prelude". That would take days.) Paul Furbacher -- Dr. Paul Furbacher Dept. of Biological Sciences Purdue University West Lafayette, IN 47907-1392 pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Prelude to Rhapsody installation ?s Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 13:59:27 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg68200.thr-6075002f.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <pf-3005971051480001@biomedia-pf-2.bio.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg68200.thr-6075002f.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >I want to install "Prelude", but I don't want >to sacrifice my existing Win 95 setup (with hundreds >of apps, mostly dev software). The installation >notes seem to think that a person would, of course, >not have anything on their machine already, and maybe >want to leave a DOS partition. That's not reasonable. >Most of us still have *real* work that needs to get >done. "Prelude" is for afterhours. >How do I install "Prelude" without disrupting my = >current setup? (No, I will not re-install the Windows >side, just to make room for "Prelude". That would = >take days.) I am NOT an expert on this matter, but it has been our experience that yo= u'll have to backup your windows partition and partition using next's too= ls, and then reinstall from backups. I know there will be howls out there about "how could they do that", "how= stupid", "typical Apple arrogance," etc., but consider this. Why would M= icrosoft's boot partition selectors allow someone to select a non-Microso= ft OS? That, I submit is typical mickeysloth arrogance. NeXT has to grab the boot partitions so it can ins= ert itself into the loop and then, if the user elects, can launch whateve= r (inferior) "operating system" from there. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: fpottier@pauillac.inria.fr (Francois Pottier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apple announces new pricing for OS - This is insane !!!!!!!!! Date: 30 May 1997 18:32:40 GMT Organization: INRIA Rocquencourt, BP 105, 78153 Le Chesnay Cedex, France Message-ID: <5mn6g8$q4j@news-rocq.inria.fr> References: <5lc2ju$det@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5lcoh1$3k1@shelob.afs.com> <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: In article <3379B914.887@sapir.ling.yale.edu>, Stephen R. Anderson <anderson@sapir.ling.yale.edu> wrote: >I didn't notice any mention of "academic bundle" pricing in Apple's >press release about OS 4.2. Does anyone know if this policy will >continue for 4.2 (and any future pre-rhapsody versions)? I asked them (by email) about the academic version, and the answer is: the 4.2 academic bundle (user+developer) is at $299. Sounds like a great deal compared to the regular $5000. -- François Pottier Francois.Pottier@inria.fr http://pauillac.inria.fr/~fpottier/
From: paul@spectrum.slu.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Computer Modern fonts for NS Date: 30 May 1997 15:11:37 -0500 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Message-ID: <x7g1v4g1om.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> References: <slrn5osgdo.699.nielsen@bears.Stanford.EDU> <19970530034800.XAA08542@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: > If the fonts in question are metafonts, although it's doable, it's not > really feasible. > > [...] > > However, there is another, commercial alternative--Blue Sky Research and > Y&Y <http://www.yandy.com> sell Adobe Type 1 Computer Modern Fonts, and > will even supply them in NeXTStep format. The fonts in question *ARE* the Blue Sky Research/Y&Y fonts. They've been contributed to the public domain by Blue Sky Research, with copyright transferred to the AMS, and placed on the CTAN archives. However, what's on the archives is in .pfb format. I converted them to NeXT .font directory format and put them into an installer package. What Jamey was commenting was that the fonts have ascii 32 mapped to "suppress" rather than "space", which shows a non-blank if the fonts are used in NeXT apps such as Edit. One can edit the font and .afm files to correct this, but I didn't do so for the distribution because it would have been a violation of the AMS copyright. -- --paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/ ================================================================ Si hoc signum legere potes, operis boni in rebus Latinus alacribus et fructuosis potiri potes! ================================================================
From: Mark Krueger <mkrueger@pcmac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: can't get IP up on NeXTcube Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 21:39:45 -0700 Organization: VeriFone ICD Message-ID: <338FAB91.5155@pcmac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm having a rough time getting IP running on an old NeXTcube. I'm running NeXTstep version 3.3. Here is the scenario: After installing a fresh copy of NeXTstep I log in as root and run HostManager. I then select Local from the menu and configure the hostname, internet address, netmask and router name. After restarting the system remembers the settings I entered, but I can't ping anything from the terminal shell. Another problem I noticed with this machine is that it sometimes tries to boot from the network during startup. I then have to Command-Tilde and manually "bsc". Then it boots fine from SCSI device 0. This is a 68040 based cube that has been in a closet for several years. It doesn't have much time on it, and has never been connected to an ethernet network. I'm hoping to revive it and make it useful. My network is 10base-T with about 20 Macs and PC's connected through a T1 to the internet. I am highly experienced with MacOS and various Microsoft operation systems, but my UNIX experience is limited. I was able to set up a FreeBSD system as a DNS and web server, however (so I'm not a complete nubie). So far I have re-installed NeXTstep MANY times and replaced the battery. I've also attempted to use SimpleNetworkStarter, but that seems to be the wrong approach -- acording to the documentation. I've attempted to manually edit the files in /etc with no luck. I know the ethernet port and cable are good (works fine with a Mac workstation). Do I need to do anything to tell the cube that I am using the 10base-T port instead of coax? Any assistance on this procedure would be VERY helpful and much appreciated. I'm not sure where to go from here. Thanks in advance!
From: gxa114@wileypost.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Prelude to Rhapsody installation ?s Date: 31 May 1997 04:37:33 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5mo9ud$1p12@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <pf-3005971051480001@biomedia-pf-2.bio.purdue.edu> This can be done, and I have done it with the NS3.3 install. (Unless of course things have changed radically.) I recall that NS can be installed with a boot manager that will let you select dos or NS at boot time. Since 95 boots the same way as dos, it works fine. This does NOT work with NT, as NT uses some strande f-ed up boot system. It can be done with NT, just not easily. Geof Paul Furbacher (pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu) wrote: : I want to install "Prelude", but I don't want : to sacrifice my existing Win 95 setup (with hundreds : of apps, mostly dev software). The installation : notes seem to think that a person would, of course, : not have anything on their machine already, and maybe : want to leave a DOS partition. That's not reasonable. : Most of us still have *real* work that needs to get : done. "Prelude" is for afterhours. : How do I install "Prelude" without disrupting my : current setup? (No, I will not re-install the Windows : side, just to make room for "Prelude". That would : take days.) : Paul Furbacher : -- : Dr. Paul Furbacher : Dept. of Biological Sciences : Purdue University : West Lafayette, IN 47907-1392 : pf@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ... (Having a little fun with spammers:) jesse_helms@helms.senate.gov president@whitehouse.gov E-Mail me with more addresses.
From: liuyi@dragon-dance.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: can't get IP up on NeXTcube Date: 31 May 1997 06:04:11 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <2C949F2BD4A47DDD.EE8D4CE6F7800B9A.2FF16FC78002F767@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <338FAB91.5155@pcmac.com> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net On Fri, 30 May 1997 21:39:45 -0700, Mark Krueger <mkrueger@pcmac.com> wrote: > After installing a fresh copy of NeXTstep I log in as root and run > HostManager. I then select Local from the menu and configure the > hostname, internet address, netmask and router name. After restarting > the system remembers the settings I entered, but I can't ping anything > from the terminal shell. Trying pinging these two: 127.0.0.1, localhost. If you can, then it might just be a routing problem. What does netstat tell you? # netstat -rn Do you see your default route, * Yes. Then you should be able to ping the router with its IP. Next, setup your /etc/resolv.conf, so that it queries the DNS for remote hosts. * No. Then you can set it up temporarily just to test: # ifconfig -a (Check your ethernet config) # route add default <your_router_IP> 1 # route add <your_router_IP> <your_local_IP> 0 # route add <your_local_IP> 127.0.0.1 0 There might be some errors, since one of more of these routes could be already setup. Ignore them. You should be able to ping your network hosts by IP now. > Another problem I noticed with this machine is that it sometimes tries > to boot from the network during startup. I then have to Command-Tilde > and manually "bsc". Then it boots fine from SCSI device 0. To fix this, drop to the ROM monitor at boot, type 'p' and you'll be prompt first with where to boot, type in 'bsd'. And don't change anything else. The machine should boot from local hard drive from now on. Everytime you change the battery, it will lose memory of where to boot and always try to boot from en. > manually edit the files in /etc with no luck. I know the ethernet port > and cable are good (works fine with a Mac workstation). Do I need to do > anything to tell the cube that I am using the 10base-T port instead of > coax? No, it figures that out by itself. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@dragon-dance.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: csong@tip.com.sg (Chuang Shyne Song) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Apache SSL -- SmartSoft?? Date: 31 May 1997 08:41:09 GMT Organization: Tip CyberCommune Message-ID: <5moo75$5nb$1@newton.pacific.net.sg> References: <5mk964$3u1@news.dialisdn.net> arpad@tezcat.com (Arpad Geller) wrote: >... >Alternately, does anyone know of an ssl server that will run >on NeXT (other then the $24,999 WebObjects)? >... >David Geller >arpad@hotspice.com Will SSL v2 be sufficient? If so, there are publicly available patches for Apache. Last time I tried, it worked fine with 1.1.3. You should find a link to a UK site from the Apache site. If you still need the URL, let me know. I've seen similar patches for NCSA and CERN as well. Rgds, Song ---- Shyne Song, Chuang <csong@tip.com.sg> http://tip.com.sg/~csong/ PGP Key Info : 1024 / 79EDBA81 / CCC1F0848DA943384D93C4968677C8D3
Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 6MP Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc References: <5mgov3$75b@sun.sirius.com> In-Reply-To: <5mgov3$75b@sun.sirius.com> From: ngervae@sirius.{REMOVE-THIS}.com Message-ID: <338f8c9e.0@news2.sirius.com> Date: 31 May 97 02:27:42 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections On 05/27/97, ngervae@sirius.{REMOVE-THIS}.com wrote: >Has anybody had any luck hooking up a LaserJet 6MP to an Intel box >using the parallel port? I know I need a PPD file, but is there >anything else? Any info is most appreciated! Folks, I thought I'd share my hard-won wisdom here. It turns out the the parallel driver in NextStep doesn't like power management very much. Turning that off in the setup utility did the trick, and now my printer works just fine. --Nik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: can't get IP up on NeXTcube Message-ID: <EB1vtD.7qB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <338FAB91.5155@pcmac.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:48:49 GMT In article <338FAB91.5155@pcmac.com> Mark Krueger <mkrueger@pcmac.com> writes: > I'm having a rough time getting IP running on an old NeXTcube. > > I'm running NeXTstep version 3.3. Here is the scenario: > > After installing a fresh copy of NeXTstep I log in as root and run > HostManager. I then select Local from the menu and configure the > hostname, internet address, netmask and router name. After restarting > the system remembers the settings I entered, but I can't ping anything > from the terminal shell. > > Another problem I noticed with this machine is that it sometimes tries > to boot from the network during startup. I then have to Command-Tilde > and manually "bsc". Then it boots fine from SCSI device 0. > > This is a 68040 based cube that has been in a closet for several years. > It doesn't have much time on it, and has never been connected to an > ethernet network. I'm hoping to revive it and make it useful. > > My network is 10base-T with about 20 Macs and PC's connected through a > T1 to the internet. I am highly experienced with MacOS and various > Microsoft operation systems, but my UNIX experience is limited. I was > able to set up a FreeBSD system as a DNS and web server, however (so I'm > not a complete nubie). > > So far I have re-installed NeXTstep MANY times and replaced the battery. > I've also attempted to use SimpleNetworkStarter, but that seems to be > the wrong approach -- acording to the documentation. I've attempted to > manually edit the files in /etc with no luck. I know the ethernet port > and cable are good (works fine with a Mac workstation). Do I need to do > anything to tell the cube that I am using the 10base-T port instead of > coax? > The NeXT hardware was built to automatically determine which network cabling type is installed at power up. For this to work correctly you should make sure the 10baseT terminator plug is removed and the 10base2 connection is reliably connected. A power cycle and the thing should be ok. The network boot attempt is controlled by the boot RAM settings. Type <Right Command-~> (double key stroke) while starting up to drop into the boot monitor. A '?' or 'help' lists a synopsis of boot monitor commands. The 'p' command lets you set various startup options. Booting from disk is normally done through the 'bsd' command, booting over the LAN is done using 'bet', and 'bfd' boots the floppy (needed for installs when CD/ROMs are not supported by the boot monitor). The verbouse boot option gives you a very elaborate listing about all the boot actions. It might be that your battery change left the NOVRAM in an uncontrolled state. Use the 'p' command to get proper settings and/or remove the battery for more than ten hours to clear the NOVRAM reliably. And the complete sysadmin documentation is in /NextLibrary/Bookshelves/SysAdmin.bshlf I always found it quite rewarding to have a look at it, first. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: "John E. Ray" <jray@bigmac.ag.ohio-state.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: [HELP] Problems with installation hang on OS 4.0, Intel Date: 31 May 97 14:02:17 -0400 Organization: NetSet Internet Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <AFB5DFED-302D4@128.128.128.127> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.netset.com/comp.sys.next.sysadmin I'm having a bit of a problem installing OpenStep 4.0 on a Pentium IDE system. The installation disks work fine, the CD-ROM is recognized, everything progresses normally up to the point where it should be prompting me to set up a partition on my drive. I get the "NeXT Mach OS" screen, it registers the ATAPI CD-ROM, then the hard drive. The last three messages I get are : "root on sd0", "rootdev 600, howto 0", and "Power Management is enabled." Then the machine just stops. I've disabled power management, and the same thing happens (minus the "Power Management enabled" message). It doesn't completely freeze the machine, because *sometimes* I can type into the window, and everytime I can hit ALT-CLEAR and reboot or halt the machine. I've also tried the latest EIDE/ATAPI drivers, to no avail. Any thoughts or suggestions? I'm not sure what it *should* be doing at this point, so I'm at a bit of a loss. Thanks, John ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John Ray, System Dev/Eng. "You hack code in your sleep, dreaming Communications & Technology, OSUE in Perl and Java..." -- Redhat Ad. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: oklahoma special effects Message-ID: <5mm1uv$l8o@news2.cais.com> From: steve edwards<custservice@tulsastage.com> Date: 30 May 1997 08:09:03 GMT Organization: tulsa stage lighting thanks for your intrest. as many of you know we supply fog, smoke, bubble, snow, strobe. black light, and other equipment to millitary, government, stage, and theatrical productions. if i can help you with any special effect let me know... we also stock high power lamps from 500w to 20,000w ( new meaning to night lights) thanx steve
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