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From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:58:56 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f7v0g$31e$1@news.xmission.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Eric Hermanson <eric@running-start.com> wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created > and saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. This has come up many times; Andy Stone made a helpful post to his OPENSTEP mailing list which answers the problem pretty well. I'm appending it to this message--hopefully Andy won't mind. :-) Something like this probably ought to be added to a developer FAQ somewhere...StepWise might be a good place--Scott? :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a> Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 14:42:04 -0700 Old-Return-Path: andrew From: Andrew Stone <andrew@stone.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:41:48 -0700 To: OpenStep-NT@droid Subject: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: andrew@stone.com X-Url: „http://www.stone.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/18 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com How To make ICO's for your project: 1. On MACH using IconBuilder: a. Remove alpha from 48 by 48 <NAME>.tiff b. if you use white in your icon that is not meant to be transparent,floodfill the transparent areas with an unused primary color, such as green In IconPro on NT, you'll add back in the transparency on this color c. Save As... <NAME>48.tiff d. Save As... <NAME>32.tiff e. Run pagelayout and reduce size to 32 by 32, choose "Scale" f. Fix the bits where they got ugly g. Repeat, this time for <NAME>16.tiff, sized to 16 by 16 2. On MACH using OmniImage: a. open each of three tiffs in OmniImage b. Choose Save As... and select the .bmp format from popup. creating <NAME>48.bmp <NAME>32.bmp and <NAME>16.bmp 3. On NT using IconPro ( a demo program from MSDN - I can't give this out - check the web) a. File->New Icon b. Edit->Add Format... Do this up to 6 times with these formats: 16 * 16 4 bit 16 * 16 8 bit 32 * 32 4 bit 32 * 32 8 bit 48 * 48 4 bit 48 * 48 8 bit c. For each format: 1. select Edit->Import BMP 2. Choose <NAME>16.bmp for the 16 * 16, etc. that is, select the correct BMP for the size you are working on. d. In the lower left view is the XOR Mask 1. Control-Click on the color representing the transparency (eg green in the example above) e. Save the <NAME>.ico file in your project directory 4. Repeat steps 1 - 3 for document icons with file extensions 5. In Project Builder on either OS a. bring up Project Attributes Inspector b. choose OPENSTEP for Windows popup. c. Drag in the appIcon.ico into the app icon well d. For each document type: 1. click Add 2. type in file extension 3. type in <NAME>.ico for that type (it will appear in well if it's cool) e. Save project 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF YOU CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you figure this out! 7. Now, from the directory above the appwrapper, in a terminal type: registerBundle <APPNAME>.app When you double click files, the app will open them (if you implement - (BOOL)application:(NSApplication *)sender openFile:(NSString *)path, that is!). When you drag your .exe into a Program Folder, the "correct" icon will show - although it may look pretty bad if you've been using NeXTSTEP for 8 years! Thanks to gracious Ali Ozer and Mike Monegan for their suggestions, the key ones of which I have herein enclosed: From: Ali Ozer <Ali_Ozer@next.com> To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico MSDN comes with a sample program called "IconPro" which lets you create multi-image ico files. You specify the depths and sizes of the images you want in the ico (typically 32x32, 256 color + 16x16, 256 color), then import icos or bmps into the various images. Unfortunately I can't make the program available because I don't think it is freely distributable. Assuming you have access to IconPro, your problem reduces to converting tiffs to bmp. The "Imaging" program which comes with NT4.0 is able to deal with tiffs without alpha; you can remove alpha from your tiffs, feed it into this program, save bmp, the import the bmp into IconPro... Something more sophisticated like Photoshop can probably also do this. Note that ico files do allow for 1-bit transparency (basically a mask). Turns out IconPro has a semi-hidden feature which allows you to restore transparency into your images --- in the XOR view, ctrl-click on the areas you want to be transparent. I think it will do a flood-fill to make the specified area transparent. BTW, I believe most of the NeXT icos were created from scratch. If you try scaling your beautiful 48x48 icos down to 32x32 automatically you might also decide this is the best way to go... Ali From: Mike Monegan <Mike_Monegan@next.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 12:04:34 -0800 To: andrew@stone.com Subject: Re: ico,ico REDUX There is a program run at build time called regGen, which generates an object file containing your ico's you put in the app's project inspector in PB. The ico's are placed at specific indices in the app's binary and referred to in the appResources.reg (also output by regGen). Thus, registerBundle loads up the registry references to the ICO's in your binary. Each time registerBundle is run, it overwrites the previous registration for the app. ... --- ||<<->>||<<==>>||<<++>>||<<?+>>||<<-->>||<<==>>||<<+>>|| !! Andrew Stone (505) 345-4800 !! !! andrew@stone.com „http://www.stone.com !! ||<<->>||< How you perceive reality morphs it >||<<->>|| Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Oct 1996 15:33:46 -0700 Old-Return-Path: aisbell@ix.netcom.com From: Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:12:05 -0800 To: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Subject: Re: ICOs: Andrew's How-To Guide Reply-To: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Resent-From: OpenStep-NT@stone.com X-Mailing-List: <OpenStep-NT@stone.com> archive/latest/19 X-Loop: OpenStep-NT@stone.com Resent-Sender: OpenStep-NT-request@stone.com Thanks very much to Andrew for the great ICO-ICO HowTo (now sing along, folks :-) > 6. AND THIS IS THE GOTCHA DUDES! The make process creates a .o > file, appResources.o which gets linked into the .exe or .dll. IF > YOU > CHANGE YOUR .ico's, you had better delete this file so that it gets > > rebuilt, or you will scratch your head and bug your pals until you > figure this out! Would something like the following NT-specific Makefile.postamble entry help: appResources.o: $(APPICON) $(DOCICONS) The specific make macros may be different depending on OS version. --- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 00:52:12 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5f7ujt$bjm$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Cc: eric@running-start.com In <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Eric Hermanson wrote: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are > several problems: > > 1. I haven't been able to find an application that goes from .tiff --> > .ico that runs on Windows or NEXTSTEP. If I could find an app that does > this, that would be great! > > 2. Assuming I won't be able to find a solution for #1, I'm also trying > to find a Windows program that will read in NEXTSTEP .tiff files and > convert them to .bmp or even .gif. I'm assuming it might be easier to > find an app that goes from .bmp to .ico. How about a Nextstep program for .tiff -> .bmp and/or .gif? OmniImage.app from OmniGroup does this. Or, you could try working with pbmtools. > 3. If I can get #2, I still need the .bmp --> .ico converter! Not sure if there's an easy way to do that or not. > If anyone has experience converting NeXT .tiff images (which may or may > not contain alpha transparency) into Windows .ico files, please drop me > a line. I do have some experience transfering images between NeXT tiff and Windows bmp formats.. and almost invariably I found that Nextsteps tools are far superior to the Windows tools. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ? in /dev directory Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:14:28 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <331782F4.6040@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All of the files in my /dev directory have a ? in the icon. Is this normal? If not, how should I corrrect this? --Greg
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: 1 Mar 1997 03:14:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970301031401.WAA17000@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <5f7ujt$bjm$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> I've been doing some work with this sort of kind of--did the reverse, converted a Windows icon into an icon-sized tiff on the NeXT. (Abandoned this version when I figured out that this would present copyright difficulties). There are a lot of Windows icon tools--you're going to have to get one. I use Win 3.1, so can't advise on Win95 stuff. The ones I know of won't import tiffs, so you'll need a program to convert or display tiffs--you'll also need to shrink them from 48 x 48 to 32 x 32. Some of the more obscure NeXT bit depths aren't supported on the PC, so convert the file to 24-bit color before moving it to the PC. Hope this helps! William PS - for those who're interested in looking at the completed work mentioned above, look at my web page and choose Tools, then Hardware. William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ? in /dev directory Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:07:59 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5f8djf$7pq@news.next.com> References: <331782F4.6040@smart.net> gh@smart.net writes > All of the files in my /dev directory have > a ? in the icon. Is this normal? If not, how > should I corrrect this? > > --Greg This is normal, not something to worry about. The reason is because the files in /dev are "device" files, which provide access to the hardware on the system from the UNIX programming interface. Workspace should probably provide a special icon for these files, but it doesn't. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ? in /dev directory Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:20:44 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8ebc$p24@news.platinum.com> References: <331782F4.6040@smart.net> Cc: gh@smart.net In <331782F4.6040@smart.net> it appeared that gh@smart.net wrote: > All of the files in my /dev directory have > a ? in the icon. Is this normal? If not, how > should I corrrect this? > > --Greg Stop poking around in your /dev directory. ;-) Yes, this is normal. It just means that NeXT didn't design a nice little icon for these special files, so your workspace manager, which doesn't know what kind of files they are, represents them with the "?" icon. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:38:38 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8fcu$qop@news.platinum.com> References: <331414D7.488@ix.netcom.com> <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF39F574-114A06@207.147.51.249> it appeared that "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 5:47 AM, Mark Trombino <mailto:mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> > wrote: > > The next beta version of RadicalNews (due out in March) will support > > internal MIME messages. It is *by far* the best newsreader I have ever > > used on ANY platform and strongly incourage others to try it out! > > The UI is great on RadicalNews, but the performance on my Turbo Cube is > slow as molasses even with a 28.8 connection. That Kiwi Newsreader is much > faster, but I don't know if it supports MIME. Hmm... I'm running RadicalNews on a TurboSlab, and it performs pretty well. (I do have a T1 to the net, but it's high-traffic most of the time.) I do have the slow link box checked in the preferences-NewsSources panel. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NS 3.3 install problem. Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:49:14 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8g0q$qop@news.platinum.com> References: <01bc20fb$e541b4e0$85c992cf@default> <5eoffd$fmo@news.next.com> Cc: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM In <5eoffd$fmo@news.next.com> it appeared that Mark Bessey wrote: > "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> writes > > The install goes fine until I load the SCSI adapter and HD controller > > drivers. No matter which I choose, when NS attempts to start after > > loading the drivers I get the following messages: > > > > (...a variety of normal, non-error messages, followed by...) > > Adaptec 2940: Can't get Configspace; ABORTING > > Registering: event0 > > Registering kmDevice0 > > No SCSI controller or CD-ROM device found > > use sd%d, hd%d, fd%d, en%d, or tr%d > > root device? > > Sometimes this message is a result of having a PCI card and an ISA card > set to the same interrupt. You might need to change something in the CMOS > setup to reserve an IRQ for the PCI device. You might also cruise NeXTanswers (http://www.next.com) to see if you have the latest device drivers for the devices you are using. I've found that it is generally simpler to get all the drivers you want loaded onto the same disk, and use that instead of the install drivers disk + an optional disk. (This is because sometimes, NeXT doesn't actually copy these additional drivers to the disk during the install, or perhaps they get written over by the drivers on the CD-ROM, I'm not certain. In any case, this problem doesn't seem to happen if you use only one drivers floppy.) /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: found '040 nextstep pizzabox need help Date: 1 Mar 1997 05:59:06 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5f8gja$qop@news.platinum.com> References: <856626940.21138@dejanews.com> Cc: PhenixPhir@aol.com In <856626940.21138@dejanews.com> it appeared that PhenixPhir@aol.com wrote: > found '040 nextstep pizzabox for $200 with monitor and stuff but the > person who donated it did not leave a password or forgot it what do i do > intall the system again and if so where do i get a copy of the system > > Replay at PhenixPhir@aol.com You'll want to know these things... http://www.next.com (excellent web-based NeXTanswers) If you are eligible for an academic discount, you can get the whole kit and kaboodle (user and developer software) for $300. Call NeXT at (800) TRY-NEXT for more information on this. If you're not eligible, the software is a bit expensive. Call NeXT for the latest pricing information. Now that NeXT bought Apple, many people expect the price of the software to come down, but that may not happen until it actually runs on PowerPC hardware (pre-release versions possible around mid-year). Your best bet for media, if price is a real obstacle, is to get a copy on usenet. Folks sell the media in comp.sys.next.marketplace often. Put a request there, if there are not adds, and you might get a bite. (Depending on exactly what you buy there, you may be in violation of the software license, so I'm not advocating this, just letting you know about your options.) You will want (for certain) NeXTSTEP 3.3, or OpenStep for Mach 4.1. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: shihong@mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp (LAO Shihong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cut&paste across workspace Date: 01 Mar 1997 06:39:12 GMT Organization: kyoto-inet Message-ID: <SHIHONG.97Mar1153912@mimi.mbox.kyoto-inet.or.jp> References: <5evmpm$r6l@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5f087r$5tc@belzebul.imaginet.fr> In-reply-to: no.spam@no.where's message of 26 Feb 1997 02:47:23 GMT >>>>> "Pascal" == Pascal Bourguignon <no.spam@no.where> writes: In article <5f087r$5tc@belzebul.imaginet.fr> no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) writes: Pascal> Well, how do you do it? I never could cut and paste when Pascal> running a remote application on the local DPS server (with Pascal> -NXHost) even between Edit.app. I guess that's because I Pascal> don't have a common NetInfo server. But I cannot: the NetInfo server is not necessary. I can do cut and paste between NXHosted apps except OmniWeb. -- LAO Shihong
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: accessing 'headers' within mail.app Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:00:51 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5f9qsj$e72@agate.berkeley.edu> How can I 'see' the complete header information that is 'hidden' within Mail.app's interface? Where is it and how can a find it? Mail.app isn't "just another pretty 'interface'" is it? :-) Any answers by e-mail, please: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu Thanks. John
From: "Jean Paul Ladue" <jpladue@telerama.lm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NextStep for Intel. Date: 1 Mar 1997 19:08:24 GMT Organization: Stargate Industries, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. -- ------------------------------- Email: jpladue@telerama.lm.com jpladue@sgi.net WWW: http://www.lm.com/~jpladue -- "Once I was a happy space pirate looting and pillaging, then POOF I'm as dumb as a doornail." -- ++==-- Brak, Cartoon Planet --==++
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: accessing 'headers' within mail.app Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 16:31:51 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <on6_17G00iV_05HbdD@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5f9qsj$e72@agate.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5f9qsj$e72@agate.berkeley.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 1-Mar-97 accessing 'headers' within .. by John Badanes@romdas.HIP. > How can I 'see' the complete header information that is 'hidden' > within Mail.app's interface? Where is it and how can a find it? The "Message->Show all headers" menu item? I'm not sure whether all versions of Mail.app have that, though. > Mail.app isn't "just another pretty 'interface'" is it? :-) Nope, it's more than a GUI wrapper around /usr/ucb/mail. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Roberto Fabbretti <Roberto.Fabbretti@dim.hcuge.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Compiling mSQL for Nextstep 3.3 Intel and Motorola Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 12:12:18 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <33196092.356D@dim.hcuge.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine and myself are trying unsuccessfully to compile msql 1.16 on Intel and Motorola platform with no success. On Intel the proble is that after making the target the make all instruction fails because it does not find the include files, in particular <paths.h> On motorola it fails because of a DIRENT problem Has anyone a clue???
From: Umiratel@uniserve.com (David Poon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: minimum Next station for internet Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 06:51:01 -0700 Organization: Uniserve Online Systems Distribution: world Message-ID: <Umiratel-ya023080000203970651010001@news.uniserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello everyone, I am thinking of getting a used NeXT station (mono) for the purpose of using it to connect to the Internet. I am using a dial-up service, not a direct ethernet connection like I had before when I was studying in the University so I am not sure, what is the minimum setup for a mono NeXT station so I can do PPP, email (what is NeXT mail by the way), news and UUCP and IRC. Webbing is not that important since I do most of it and the authoring on my PowerMac system. And will this minimum system allow me to network with my PowerMac via ethernet? Is it a 10Base-T connection and what software do I need (preferably shareware or freeware) to accomplish this? Any info on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
From: "Michael S. Peacock" <mpeacock@eversoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: minimum Next station for internet Date: 2 Mar 1997 16:27:10 GMT Organization: Digital Highway Communications Message-ID: <01bc2726$3d066100$37ae37cf@skywalker.dhc.net> References: <Umiratel-ya023080000203970651010001@news.uniserve.com> David Poon <Umiratel@uniserve.com> wrote in article <Umiratel-ya023080000203970651010001@news.uniserve.com>... > I am thinking of getting a used NeXT station (mono) for the purpose > of using it to connect to the Internet. I am using a dial-up service, not > a direct ethernet connection like I had before when I was studying in the > University so I am not sure, what is the minimum setup for a mono NeXT > station > so I can do PPP, email (what is NeXT mail by the way), news and UUCP and > IRC. Webbing is not that important since I do most of it and the authoring > on my PowerMac system. As far as hardware goes, I'd probably look at a 25mhz 68040 system with 16mb of RAM and at least a 440mb hd. You can get by with less, but as cheap as memory and hard drives are today, that would be the minimum that I'd be comfortable with. If you decide to buy a color system, get more memory (24mb or more). NeXTMail refers to NeXT's proprietary mail format which is used by NeXT's mail program (Mail.app). It allows you to compose in Rich Text and send attachments to other NeXT users, but it will be gibberish to non-NeXT users. The NeXT mail program (Mail.app) supports plain text though to let you communicate with the outside world. The only caveat is that it didn't support MIME attachments until NS 3.3. You can also use Pine, Elm, or one of the several free mail programs available for Unix. A free implementation of PPP is available (check the ftp sites for the latest version). I seem to remember ther are binary distributions available so you aren't out of luck if you don't have a Developer CD. UUCP is standard although I believe there is something called Taylor UUCP (a shareware or freeware product, I think) that is supposed to be nicer. > And will this minimum system allow me to network with my PowerMac via ethernet? > Is it a 10Base-T connection and what software do I need (preferably shareware > or freeware) to accomplish this? All NeXT machines (afaik) have built-in ethernet with RJ-45 and BNC connectors (not certain about AUI)). I believe version 3.0 of the OS supported Appletalk directly, but I think it was dropped in future versions. I know this can be done with a Linux box (via NetATalk with Appletalk support enabled in the kernel), but I'm not sure about NeXT. Perhaps someone else can help here.
From: "Gerard T. Curd" <"gcurd@tricon.net@gcurd"@tricon.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS NeXTStation Turbo Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 17:06:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5fctru$c20@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit $850 + shipping OBO NextStation Turbo 32 MB Memory 400 MB Hard Disk 17" Monitor w/brand new CRT Zyxel 14.4 Modem & Software Laser Printer 400 DPI NextStep 3.2 NextStep 3.2 Developers Kit Lotus Improv Mesa NoteBook Write Now MetroTools Much More... Everything runs great. If interested send me an email - gcurd@tricon.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702261928.OAA10956@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 14:28:10 -0500 Subject: Re: Emulating those darn "Function Keys" Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - Responding To: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Original Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:53:16 GMT Message-ID: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - > In the terminal window, I've set the "generate vt 100 codes > from the keypad" and have managed to get most of the 'F' keys > that I needed (F1-F3) using 'shift' with the number on the > keypad. You can get F1-F10 by pressing-and-releasing ESCAPE and then 1-10. > However, recently, the service I was accessing _changed_ such > that I NOW require an 'F11', PREV, NEXT, Page Dn, and Page Up > to navigate. Ugh. However I don't know how to do these keys. Stuart.app might be able to do this however... TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703011628.LAA05012@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 97 11:28:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Emulating those darn "Function Keys" References: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Original Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:53:16 GMT In case anyone finds themselves in the same situation as John, you might be interested to know that Stuart.app was able to solve this problem for him. ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/Stuart.2.6.3.NIHS.b.tar.gz Thanks again to Scott Hess, author of Stuart (and Terminal.app too I believe!) TjL ps -- Stuart is also one of the 'must have' apps you'll find on my Webpage of the same name (access from http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/) > Is there a way that someone with a black machine can emulate > the function (F) keys of the PC keyboard? > > In the terminal window, I've set the "generate vt 100 codes > from the keypad" and have managed to get most of the 'F' keys > that I needed (F1-F3) using 'shift' with the number on the > keypad. > > However, recently, the service I was accessing _changed_ such > that I NOW require an 'F11', PREV, NEXT, Page Dn, and Page Up > to navigate. Ugh.
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP opening NeXT ADB mouse Date: 3 Mar 1997 05:06:29 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fdm8l$aaf@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. i would like to open the mouse and clean it. how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but the mouse won't come apart.) any help is appreciated. thanks in advance. hs
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS Jan/Feb Quiz results, new March Quiz started Date: 2 Mar 1997 16:54:16 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5fcbbo$976@peng.ping.at> The SSS January/February Quiz has ended, and the winner is drawn. Plus: the new March Quiz has started NOW! For Jan/Feb results as well as for the new March quiz question, please visit http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html Deadline for the new quiz is April 1. As always, the winners will receive a free HelpViewer *or* LatinByrd license, or alternatively, a rebate of upto US$ 99 on any NEXTSTEP application distributed by Stefan Schneider Software (including SuperDraw, SuperDebugger, and others). Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 12:20:48 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E6GvMp.1Jn@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> In article <33177131.1915@running-start.com> writes: > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files. There are > several problems: > Many practical solutions have been posted - however my favourite way (if only casue I wrote it): Copy and paste the image from ImageViewer (or similar) into paintbrush running under SoftPC! $an
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Emulating those darn "Function Keys" Date: 3 Mar 97 08:19:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar3081947@howard.one.net> References: 4153f17b0ddc9d2dc63fe5cfb2f4838d - <199702261928.OAA10956@peak.org> In-reply-to: Timothy J Luoma's message of Wed, 26 Feb 97 14:28:10 -0500 In article <199702261928.OAA10956@peak.org>, Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > However, recently, the service I was accessing _changed_ such > that I NOW require an 'F11', PREV, NEXT, Page Dn, and Page Up > to navigate. Ugh. However I don't know how to do these keys. Stuart.app might be able to do this however... It can, but you have to use Keyboard.app to map the keys somewhere. I've never found a really satisfactory mapping which didn't screw something else up. For instance, Alternate-[0-9] is annoying, because you lose meta-key. I suppose you could use the keypad somehow. Beyond that, though, keep in mind that function keys (other than PF1-4) are _not_ part of vt100, and are often subject to wildly different interpretations by various vendors. It may work just fine - but it may not work at all, depending ... Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Compiling mSQL for Nextstep 3.3 Intel and Motorola Message-ID: <E6Gu2p.2Mn@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <33196092.356D@dim.hcuge.ch> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 11:47:13 GMT In article <33196092.356D@dim.hcuge.ch> Roberto Fabbretti <Roberto.Fabbretti@dim.hcuge.ch> writes: > A friend of mine and myself are trying unsuccessfully to compile msql > 1.16 on Intel and Motorola platform with no success. > On Intel the proble is that after making the target the > make all instruction fails because it does not find the include files, > in particular <paths.h> > On motorola it fails because of a DIRENT problem > > Has anyone a clue??? I found a small textfile about how I got it running on Intel 3.2. (About a year ago, so I don't remember all details, but, as usual, it must have been a quick hack to get it running): There is no "paths.h" in my include path. Did you configure it for the correct target on b*o*t*h systems? The CC=cc thing may not be necessary on your system. I think I had to include it because I did some experiments with new gcc compilers. If you want to use an MiniSQL EOF adaptor, don't use the release 95.12.11 that can be found on some archives. There are a few bugs in this release that were fixed later by Pascal Forget (thanks again). I don't know whether he has uploaded his fixed version, but I can mail it to you if you need it. file: ############ su root in top: "make target" (architecture "NeXT") cd targets/NeXT in conf/site.mm.in: change CC= "@CC@" into "CC= cc" in conf/site.mm.in: EXTRA_CFLAGS= @DEFS@ -I/usr/include/ansi ./setup Defines for directory stuff? (nothing) in common/config.h: #define RETSIGTYPE void in common/portability.h: delete : #ifndef HAVE_U_INT typedef unsigned int u_int; #endif in common/portability.h: delete : ftruncate stuff make ############
From: Joey Sum <jpsum00@mik.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.2 compile error on Pine 3.9x Date: 3 Mar 97 22:55:04 GMT Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services Message-ID: <jpsum00.857429704@mik.uky.edu> Hi, When trying to compile Pine 3.96 on NS 3.2 black, I get the following error on link: ld: Undefined symbols: .file_definition_libsys_s.B.shlib_getent_pw.o *** Exit 1 The only lib in the makefile.nxt is -ltermcap. I've also gotten this error message on a couple of other programs in the past (NcFTP v1.9x comes to mind). Can someone tell me what other lib I need to include to fulfill this? Thanks, Joey
From: mfuortes@med.cornell.edu (Michele Fuortes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:10:04 -0500 Organization: Leuca Software Message-ID: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Hi everybody, I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have the Best of Both World ;-) Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? I don't see intrinsic limitations. I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, monitor etc.etc) I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want to wait for Rhapsody DR. Any ideas? Thanks a lot
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Difference between OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP (was Re: Silly?) Date: 4 Mar 1997 02:27:19 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5fg1a7$31o@news3.digex.net> References: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> "Robb J. Albrecht" <robbj@fix.net.com> wrote: > Ok call me an idiot and flame me but Im going to ask this silly > question any way... What is the difference between NEXTSTEP & > OPENSTEP??? BTW thanx to all of you who answered my previous > questions :-) That's a reasonable question, and one that really should be addressed by the FAQ! But don't think it is. Anyway, NEXTSTEP was 'closed' version of all the NeXT goodies. OPENSTEP, will run a lot of the NeXT goodies on any other operating system that supports OPENSTEP libraries. So, a NEXTSTEP version of Create.app (a drawing app), will only run under Mach versions of the operating system made by NeXT. An OPENSTEP version will run on NeXT's Mach version of the operating system AS WELL AS on Solaris OPENSTEP, WindowsNT OPENSTEP, and Windows95 OPENSTEP. So you can see, OPENSTEP is cool, because you can run your favorite app on almost any operating system. Think of it kinda as NEXTSTEP+, a version that is more portable and open. Now there are some really cool things that NEXTSTEP does, that OPENSTEP doesn't...things like Sound, and the 3DKit are available only under NEXTSTEP. What get's confusing is that NeXT's OPENSTEP, has _BOTH_ OPENSTEP libraries AND NEXTSTEP libraries, so NeXT's version can run ALL apps, and take advantage of all features. Whereas versions of OPENSTEP for NT, win95, and Solaris, are PURE OPENSTEP, and don't take advantage of all the other cool kits... Well, that is _generally_ it, and not completely technically thorough, but the general gist of it, I think, is right... Anyway, one thing I suggest, if this, or some other answer later in this thread properly describes the difference...that the answer be added to the FAQs so we can point poor newbies to a coherent answer.... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: "Robb J. Albrecht" <robbj@fix.net.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Silly? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 18:05:48 +0000 Organization: BEAT productions Message-ID: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ok call me an idiot and flame me but Im going to ask this silly question any way... What is the difference between NEXTSTEP & OPENSTEP??? BTW thanx to all of you who answered my previous questions :-) -- Robb J. Albrecht production manager and bright ideas BEAT productions SF SLO mailto:robbj@fix.net Check out our home page http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/7353/index.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Subject: Q:Reporting tool Message-ID: <E6BKEz.165@oic.de> Sender: news@oic.de Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:30:35 GMT Hi, I'm looking for reporting tools, but I don't know which report writers are available for OPENSTEP 4.x/Mach and EOF? Can someone give me an advice which tools are available (and usable)? Thank you in advance, Juergen Moellenhoff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703022234.RAA13171@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 97 17:34:14 -0500 Subject: Re: accessing 'headers' within mail.app Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: 0174b8060650d1bba9687b134ffb3905 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Original Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:00:51 GMT Message-ID: 0174b8060650d1bba9687b134ffb3905 - > How can I 'see' the complete header information that is 'hidden' > within Mail.app's interface? Where is it and how can a find it? > > Mail.app isn't "just another pretty 'interface'" is it? :-) > > Any answers by e-mail, please: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu The Mail.app in 3.3 has Message/Show All Headers, but I think 3.2 and below had no such feature..... While selected on a message you can do a 'copy' and then 'paste' it somewhere and that will show you all the headers.... sort of hacking, I know. If there is some header you always want to see, you can adjust the "Mail MailFilter" dwrite and the "Mail MailMarker" dwrite (the 2nd of which went out of service in 3.3 I believe). Using those two you can adjust which headers are always shown or always hidden. It's been a long time since I used the 3.2 Mail.app, so I'm not sure exactly how it works.... yet another reason to get 3.3 TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 300 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Silly? Date: 4 Mar 1997 04:52:18 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5fg9q2$10r@news.platinum.com> References: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> Cc: robbj@fix.net.com In <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> it appeared that "Robb J. Albrecht" wrote: > Ok call me an idiot and flame me but Im going to ask this silly question > any way... What is the difference between NEXTSTEP & OPENSTEP??? > BTW thanx to all of you who answered my previous questions :-) NeXT has changed the name of their OS from NeXTSTEP (which it was called up until revision 3.3), and now it has two parts... OpenStep -- The portable object oriented API MachOS -- The Mach kernel based, BSD operating system, and user environment OpenStep, the API, is an open standard, also runs on NT, and Solaris. OpenStep for MachOS -- is the whole enchilada. This will be the foundation of the new OS from Apple, known as Rhapsody, and will run on PowerPC and Intel based hardware. /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: michael@lanczos.cer.neu.edu (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Selecting the window in OPENSTEP/Mach for intel 4.1 Date: 4 Mar 1997 05:20:08 GMT Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Message-ID: <5fgbe8$iq@chaos.dac.neu.edu> Hi, I think it is possible to set up workspace so that window is activated by moving cursor into it, rather then clicking. I am not sure how to do it, though. Tips ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6I5oz.LAF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 04:55:46 GMT References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71>, Michele Fuortes <mfuortes@med.cornell.edu> wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. > Your cube *will* run OPENSTEP for Mach 4.x. However, unless you have it stuffed full of RAM it will be slow. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5fghho$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:16:52 GMT Control: cancel <5fghho$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fghho$bn4@ecuador.earthlink.net> Sender: brianb@ei-bay.net Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: Salma Hayek, Jenny McCarthy & more..!
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Is there a MIME-capable news reader for NEXTSTEP? Date: 2 Mar 1997 21:46:09 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5fcsf1$je0@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <E64FL2.Iz3@RnA.NL> Gerben_Wierda@RnA.nl wrote: > Subject line says it all. In the next NEXTTOYOU (due March 21st) there will be a solution for any newsreader via a services module that converts any MIME text that you've marked as a block. Bye Uli -- ______________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine ______________________________________________________________________
From: "Agat-Dnepr" <root@agat-dnepr.dp.ua> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: <none> Date: 4 Mar 1997 11:27:02 +0200 Organization: Agat-Dnepr Sender: news@neon.dp.ua Distribution: su Message-ID: <AA3X-6pOnP@agat-dnepr.dp.ua>
From: "Robb J. Albrecht" <robbj@fix.net.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Difference between OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP (was Re: Silly?) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:08:00 +0000 Organization: BEAT productions Message-ID: <331B3DB0.5C60@fix.net.com> References: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> <5fg1a7$31o@news3.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kheit wrote: > > "Robb J. Albrecht" <robbj@fix.net.com> wrote: > > Ok call me an idiot and flame me but Im going to ask this silly > > question any way... What is the difference between NEXTSTEP & > > OPENSTEP??? BTW thanx to all of you who answered my previous > > questions :-) > > That's a reasonable question, and one that really should be addressed > by the FAQ! But don't think it is. Anyway, NEXTSTEP was 'closed' > version of all the NeXT goodies. OPENSTEP, will run a lot of the > NeXT goodies on any other operating system that supports OPENSTEP > libraries. -----------------------snip------------------------- Hey thanks John, Where can the FAQ for this newsgroup be found? I have a lot of questions about NeXT systems and the software. One more thing, can anyone direct me to a wab site that has pictures of the NeXT systems? I have never even seen what one looks like. -- Robb J. Albrecht production manager and bright ideas BEAT productions SF SLO mailto:robbj@fix.net Check out our home page http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/7353/index.html
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <5fhaa1$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: 4 Mar 1997 15:44:15 GMT Control: cancel <5fhaa1$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5fhaa1$9g0@bolivia.earthlink.net> Sender: paoiureopu@potwopeiu.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: NUDECELEBS Original Subject: Do you like Nude Celebrity Pic? How about 10000 of them!
From: kykim@access1.digex.net (Kevin Yungsun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NSi 3.3 and laptops Date: 4 Mar 1997 13:12:50 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <5fhon2$8hq@access1.digex.net> Summary: what PCMCIA SCSI controllers work Hi all, I want to install NeXTStep 3.3 on my toshiba laptop. Looking around on the NeXT web site, I found that the only PCMCIA SCSI card supported it the Adaptec. I was wondering if anyone out ther has (1) tried this (2) found another PCMCIA SCSI card to work. Thanks, -kevin kykim@access.digex.net
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: TIFF to ICO conversion nightmare Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:17:26 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <331C7546.2B4F@arch.buffalo.edu> References: <33177131.1915@running-start.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Eric Hermanson wrote: > > I am having a heck of a time trying to convert .tiff files created and > saved under NEXTSTEP into Windows compatible .ico files.... The solution I found was to use a combination of PhotoShop to convert TIFF to BMP (Perhaps there is a free converter. I happened to have Photoshop so I didn't look). and EasyIcons/Icon Easel for Windows 95/NT to load/edit/save Icons. It is shareware and costs about $33 Check it out at: http://www.easyapps.com/ I have no affiliation with EasyApps or Adobe (although I wish I did :-) -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: krgue@nps.navy.mil (Kevin R Gue) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Openstep Solaris install question Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:47:37 GMT Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, CA Message-ID: <5fhjn9$iau@nps.navy.mil> I've recently installed Openstep for Solaris, but can't seem to get it up and running. When logging in, I select "Openstep Desktop" from the session menu, and the session starts up as a dressed up Open Windows (ugh) session. The windows have Openstep frames, etc, but I can't start Workspace or Edit or any such applications. Perhaps I am running "Openstep under Open Windows", as the online documentation says. If I start a session in CDE or plain Open Windows, and type "openstep", I get, "The X-server is not running or the DPS compositing operators are not present" How do I get to *real* Openstep?? Many thanks, --Kevin ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin R. Gue, Ph.D. | krgue@nps.navy.mil Department of Systems Management | Tel: (408) 656-4299 Naval Postgraduate School | Fax: (408) 656-3407 Monterey, CA 93943 | http://vislab-www.nps.navy.mil/~krgue ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Dale Friesen" <dfriesen@amtsgi.bc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 4 Mar 97 13:23:25 -0800 Organization: Island Net on Vancouver Island B.C. Canada Message-ID: <AF41D2DB-14F38F@198.53.175.34> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.islandnet.com/comp.sys.next.misc :Hi everybody, : :I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package :is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that :would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. : :So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my :Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have :the Best of Both World ;-) : :Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? :I don't see intrinsic limitations. :I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, :monitor etc.etc) :I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want :to wait for Rhapsody DR. : :Any ideas? : :Thanks a lot : Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be both NeXT and DOS compatible. Thanks for any input.
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From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB: DTP software for NeXT Cube Date: 5 Mar 1997 09:24:09 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5fje3p$h64@supernews.login.net> References: <tj-0403971346560001@i527.oro.net> In-Reply-To: <tj-0403971346560001@i527.oro.net> Check out SuperDraw 4 at: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/English/index.html ------------------------------------------------ On 03/04/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > New or used. What do you have available. > > Tom >
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Does the /dev directory need to be configured? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 10:11:59 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <331D8D3F.5109@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to reach my serial port with C-Kermit. When I enter SET LINE /dev/cua, I get the response; Can't open connection: /dev/cua: No such device Is there something I need to do to configure the devices to make them accessable? --gh
From: DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AppleTalk package on NS3.2 CD?? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 97 10:04:55 EST Organization: University of Georgia Message-ID: <17B288DC7S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Greetings NeXT enthusiasts, I discovered in the NS3.2 (black) documentation that the CD is supposed to have an AppleTalk package on it which can be installed and then accessed through the Preferences. Does anyone know if it did come with 3.2? If so, where is it? If it did not does anyone know how and where I can get the package? Thank you for your help.
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Difference between OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP (was Re: Silly?) Date: 4 Mar 1997 17:26:49 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Message-ID: <5fhm0p$t84$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> <5fg1a7$31o@news3.digex.net> <331B3DB0.5C60@fix.net.com> Cc: robbj@fix.net.com You will find the FAQ and much more at http://www.stepwise.com/ Regards, ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/ In <331B3DB0.5C60@fix.net.com> "Robb J. Albrecht" wrote: % Where can the FAQ for this newsgroup be found? I have a lot of questions % about NeXT systems and the software. One more thing, can anyone direct % me to a wab site that has pictures of the NeXT systems? I have never % even seen what one looks like. %
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Difference between OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP (was Re: Silly?) Date: 6 Mar 1997 01:16:13 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5fl5st$jb9@news4.digex.net> References: <331B12FC.411D@fix.net.com> <5fg1a7$31o@news3.digex.net> <331B3DB0.5C60@fix.net.com> "Robb J. Albrecht" <robbj@fix.net.com> wrote: > Hey thanks John, Where can the FAQ for this newsgroup be found? > I have a lot of questions about NeXT systems and the software. > One more thing, can anyone direct me to a wab site that has > pictures of the NeXT systems? I have never even seen what one > looks like. My web site has screen shots of the environment, and a link to the FAQs. It's in the sig below, check it out :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean Paul Ladue wrote: > Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next > website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also > what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' you want is the Intel version of that. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc From: roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) Subject: Bootpd with DHCP Message-ID: <E6M7C3.7Mn@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:21:39 GMT Hi, I know, that there was a thread quite a while ago, but I didn't have it. I know that there is a patched version of bootpd with DHCP. Does anyone know, where I can get it ? Thanks, Roland -- ============================================================================ Roland Schwingel OneVision GmbH Developer Zeissstrasse 9 Email:roland@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ============================================================================
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: WTB: DTP software for NeXT Cube Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:48:37 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fmsh5$7sl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <tj-0403971346560001@i527.oro.net> In-Reply-To: <tj-0403971346560001@i527.oro.net> On 03/04/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > New or used. What do you have available. > PasteUp: pasteup@afs.com OneVision: http://onevision.de/ (yes, no www.) Create: http://www.stone.com/ SuperDraw: http://www.mlink.net/~tralala/English/ I'm sure there are others... Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:46:03 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0603970843370001@mfs-annex1-p23.dsphere.net> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> <AF41D2DB-14F38F@198.53.175.34> >:I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >:is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >:would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. Actually, the cube will run Openstep. That's your best bet for the short term. >:So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my >:Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have >:the Best of Both World ;-) A WGS 9150 at home? Anyway, the DOS cards cannot run nextstep. They can't run any OS that is not DOS based unfortunately... >:I don't see intrinsic limitations. The limitations are that there is no physical hardware connected to a harddrive. The card uses a custom bios to access your mac hard drive. Since Nextstep is an operating system, it doesn't do it's calls through the bios, it accesses the hardware directly, which in the case of the dos card, isn't there... >Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few >months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. >Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs >under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I >need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be >both NeXT and DOS compatible. Rhapsody will run on a pentium. The problem is that as expressed so far, that configuration will not run mac apps. You will be able to run rhapsody apps as they are produced, but no mac apps. Get a wicked mac with a dos card, you can do both now really well, and when rhapsody is released, if the dos card no longer works, you can always run softwindows, or at least dual boot your machine into system 7.x and use the dos card. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Bootpd with DHCP Date: 6 Mar 1997 18:20:14 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5fn1su$sfb@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <E6M7C3.7Mn@onevision.de> In article <E6M7C3.7Mn@onevision.de> roland@onevision.de (Roland Schwingel) writes: > I know, that there was a thread quite a while ago, but I didn't > have it. I know that there is a patched version of bootpd with > DHCP. Does anyone know, where I can get it ? I'm working on the port now. I'll upload the completed product soon. source: ftp://ftp.ntplx.net/pub/networking/bootp/ -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:42:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT printing Message-ID: <1997Mar6.162312.28047@indyvax.iupui.edu> From: dalaw@austerlitz.iupui.edu (Dale Law) Date: 6 Mar 97 16:23:11 -0500 Has anyone succeeded in getting a NeXTstation to print to an Apple LaserWriter 12/640 PS? The printer has its¹ own ip address and I have entered everything on the NeXT for doing lpd printing, but nothing ever emerges. I would prefer to go the TCP/IP route rather than trying to use AppleTalk since that is currently so unwieldy. Please send responses directly to me. -- Dale K. Law Technical Assistant IU School of Journalism at Indianapolis (317) 274-2976 dalaw@gutenberg.iupui.edu CompuServe: 74776,2016
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: WTB: DTP software for NeXT Cube Message-ID: <E6nysx.AIn@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5fmsh5$7sl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 08:12:33 GMT In article <5fmsh5$7sl@bignews.shef.ac.uk> mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> writes: > On 03/04/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: > > New or used. What do you have available. > > > PasteUp: pasteup@afs.com > > OneVision: http://onevision.de/ (yes, no www.) > really? the last time I tried I could use the www.onevision.de... ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does the /dev directory need to be configured? Date: 7 Mar 1997 13:33:54 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fp5g2$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <331D8D3F.5109@smart.net> gh@smart.net wrote: >I am trying to reach my serial port with C-Kermit. >When I enter SET LINE /dev/cua, I get the response; > Can't open connection: /dev/cua: No such device > >Is there something I need to do to configure the >devices to make them accessable? Yes.. if you intend to use cua/cufa with kermit under a non root userid (not a bad idea, because you then can run NXFax or other fax software on the same port using /dev/ttyfa) you run into difficulties with the permissions. Under OS4.1, the default permissions are: crw------- 1 uucp 11,224 Oct 1 19:19 /dev/cufa crw------- 1 uucp 11,192 Oct 1 19:19 /dev/cua Since local security was no issue for my machine at home, I simple used chmod a+rw /dev/ttycufa and am a happy camper ever since. Please note that you should use cufa rather then cua, since it gives you hardware flow control, assuming you are not using an older 68030 machine. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP opening NeXT ADB mouse Date: 7 Mar 1997 14:20:03 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fp86j$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5fdm8l$aaf@ttacs7.ttu.edu> seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu wrote: >i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when >pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. > >i would like to open the mouse and clean it. Most probably the little switch is dying. A replacement switch can easily be soldered in. I think DigiKey part CH164-ND fits in an ADB mouse, too, but you better open the little beast and look for yourself. >how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but >the mouse won't come apart.) I haven't opened an ADB mouse in a long time, but maybe a screw or two are hidden underneath stickers. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: hcs@interport.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ppp under ns 3.0 Date: 7 Mar 1997 17:04:06 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <hcs-0703971205580001@hcs.port.net> Simple question: is there a version of ppp for ns 3.0 with a graphical front-end? Thought I some info about something like this posted here about a month back. Thanks.
From: jnw@phaedrus.demon.co.uk (Neville Wilford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Arrow keys in c-shell on OS4.0 Intel? Date: 7 Mar 1997 19:45:53 GMT Organization: (dis)organised Message-ID: <5fpr9h$pr@phaedrus.demon.co.uk> Greetings. I'm running OS4.0 on a homebuilt Intel box fairly successfully. I have been trying to follow the instructions in Bernhard Scholz's excellent FAQ on Peanuts in order to enable use of the cursor/arrow keys in a c-shell terminal window. I have added the appropriate lines to my .cshrc and created a suitable indings file, even figured out how to use a preceeding <Cntrl>Q to enter control characters in emacs. If I create what the FAQ tells me my .macros file should be; A^A^@^@^@^P B^A^@^@^@^N C^A^@^@^@^F D^A^@^@^@^B where every caret ^ represents a control character, this doesn't work. The previous bracket sequences are gone but I can't use the cursor keys to move in a terminal window as I would like. Can anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong? If some generous person could perhaps send me a suitable Intel .macros file in NeXT or MIME mail format, this would be terrific. Is this something which worked in NS 3.x but was broken in OS 4.x? Many thanks, Neville Wilford -- Internet: jnw@phaedrus.demon.co.uk CompuServe: 100042,3501 j.n.wilford@ncl.ac.uk PGP 2.x public key available
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.331b767d.3987335@NNTP.NETCRUISER> Control: cancel <331b767d.3987335@NNTP.NETCRUISER> Subject: cmsg cancel <331b767d.3987335@NNTP.NETCRUISER> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 02:21:00 GMT Sender: belive_it@r-not.com ( It's WORKING ! ) ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: AppleTalk package on NS3.2 CD?? Message-ID: <E6q3tx.7vy@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <17B288DC7S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:56:20 GMT In article <17B288DC7S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) writes: > Greetings NeXT enthusiasts, I discovered in the NS3.2 (black) > documentation that the CD is supposed to have an AppleTalk package > on it which can be installed and then accessed through the Preferences. > Does anyone know if it did come with 3.2? If so, where is it? If > it did not does anyone know how and where I can get the package? > Thank you for your help. > There's a known problem with respect to the quality of the online manuals, namely orphaned, unremoved topics. And you ran into one of these... Apple(Ether)Talk support used to be there in NS 3.0 and was discontinued (omongst others) in NS 3.1. Old dilemma: there was a number of very interesting features in NS 3.0. But there are also numbers of nagging bugs that were removed in NS 3.1... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Dujourdy Stephane <Stephane.Dujourdy@Wanadoo.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NEXT search Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 19:11:56 +0100 Organization: Interactive TV Consultant - Amiga/PC/Mac dev. Message-ID: <3321ABEC.4E@Wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from France, for sentimental history i search a Next Computer. Send me by mail your proposition. Bye Stef
From: keith@cambra.com (Keith J. Cambra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT T-shirts? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:01:49 -0800 Organization: Sprynet News Service Message-ID: <keith-0303972301490001@ad23-020.compuserve.com> can you still get NeXT t-shirts? please reply to keith@cambra.com thanks - keith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: Nicholas Heer <heer@eskimo.com> Subject: Seattle area NeXT consultation sought Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970308122345.20323B-100000@eskimo.com> Originator: heer@eskimo.com Sender: news@eskimo.com (News User Id) Cc: Tom Hicks <tomh@cyberzine.org> Organization: Eskimo North (206) For-Ever Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 20:25:57 GMT SUBJECT: Seattle area NeXT consultation sought. Seattle area NeXT consultation sought for blackbox. Bothell. Needs, Networking solutions Internet connectivity Network blackbox to WIN95 Install NeXTStep on WIN95 Contact: Tom Hicks tomh@cyberzine.org 206-806-1439
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:24:03 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Michele Fuortes wrote: > I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package > is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that > would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. As I'm sure someone's told you, the cube (provided it's an 040) will run Openstep, albeit slowly. > So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my > Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have > the Best of Both World ;-) Apple's DOS cards are exactly that - DOS cards. They only work with DOS-based operating systems (which includes Windows95, but not NT). Neither NEXTSTEP or Openstep will run on Apple's cards... HOWEVER: Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have NT running on the card. -Isaac
From: ErikB@iprolink.ch (Erik Bussink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cost on NextStep for x86 ? Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 08:55:45 GMT Message-ID: <3321d7d9.245720747@news.iprolink.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the cost on NeXTstep for the intel platform ? Where can I buy the product. Erik Bussink erikb@iprolink.ch
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:27:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm247-19.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fthob$ir$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Cc: isaac@pobox.com In <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > HOWEVER: > > Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as > NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on > one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have > NT running on the card. > > -Isaac > > Do you know more about the company? Thanks Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:25:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:12:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> how much hard disk space will i need to install just NS 3.3 User? also, has anyone tried to install NS 3.3 on a Sharp PC 8700 notebook computer? hs
From: troch@lonestar.texas.com (Rod Troch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,houston.wanted,houston.general Subject: HOUSTON Texas NeXT Assistance Needed Date: 09 Mar 1997 21:47:22 -0600 Organization: Don't mess with TEXAS Sender: troch@lonestar.texas.com Message-ID: <m3pvx8l86t.fsf@lonestar.texas.com> I recently purchased the very same NeXT machine I cut my teeth on years ago, the machine is in the EXACT same configuration it was years ago, that is an 030 cube, OD, and NeXTSTEP v1.0. The cube has a failing hard drive. I have a replacement 300Mb SCSI drive on its way and am now looking for someone local to Houston Texas that wouldn't mind giving me a hand. I am in the market to buy NeXTSTEP 3.2 or 3.3 (I have heard that 3.3 will run like a dog on an 030 but 3.2 won't) but need some way to get that CD ROM format onto the HD. I would love to hear from anyone who wouldn't mind helping me 'builddisk' to the new HD on their system. I am more then willing to pay you for your time. Thanks, Rod (troch@texas.com) -- Rod Troch N2ZVV | troch@texas.com | Don't mess with TEXAS. http://www.texas.com/ | ftp://lonestar.texas.com/ | FTP for PGP key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc From: edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) Subject: Re: NeXT T-shirts? Message-ID: <edewE6tAyD.DGM@netcom.com> Sender: edew@netcom2.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) References: <keith-0303972301490001@ad23-020.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:23:00 GMT In article <keith-0303972301490001@ad23-020.compuserve.com> keith@cambra.com (Keith J. Cambra) writes: > > >can you still get NeXT t-shirts? > >please reply to keith@cambra.com > >thanks - keith Sure, the short sleeves are $895 and the long sleeves are $2599. :-) EDEW
From: kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Axel Habermann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Does the /dev directory need to be configured? Date: 10 Mar 1997 11:38:45 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5g0rs5$3d0$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <331D8D3F.5109@smart.net> <5fp5g2$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> In comp.sys.next.misc Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: : gh@smart.net wrote: : >I am trying to reach my serial port with C-Kermit. : >When I enter SET LINE /dev/cua, I get the response; : > Can't open connection: /dev/cua: No such device : > : >Is there something I need to do to configure the : >devices to make them accessable? : Yes.. if you intend to use cua/cufa with kermit under : a non root userid (not a bad idea, because you then : can run NXFax or other fax software on the same port : using /dev/ttyfa) you run into difficulties with the : permissions. Under OS4.1, the default permissions are: : crw------- 1 uucp 11,224 Oct 1 19:19 /dev/cufa : crw------- 1 uucp 11,192 Oct 1 19:19 /dev/cua I don't think the permissions are the problem he has. Note that the error message was 'no such device' which leads to the conclusion that he did not install the PortServer (When using the new serial drivers, which I would strongly recommend, you have to install a driver named PortServer or TTY Port Server or somesuch, else the devices won't be there). -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,mi.jobs,oh.jobs Subject: NEXT/Career Position/Relo/Ex opp/ILL Date: 10 Mar 1997 15:00:23 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <5g17m7$ll5@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXT---Commercial experience Objective C---Commercial experience Area---Greater Chicago area Relocation---Company assistance Opportunity---Excellent Must Be---US Citizen or Greencard To Be Considered---Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: kinselle@ohsu.edu (Doug Kinsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: NeXTPrinter off a Win95 PC Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 22:36:32 GMT Organization: OHSU Message-ID: <kinselle.18.33248CF0@ohsu.edu> Two part request for help. I have a pentium with Win95, and a NeXTPrinter & NeXTStation (NS2.1, 100Mb drive, 8Mb RAM & NOT the developer's version). The computers are not networked. Also, I can't afford an upgrade to NS > Ver 2.1 right now. 1. Top priority: What I would like to do is print directly to the NeXTPrinter from the PC. Already I can transfer, via DOS diskette, small files I create with Adobe PageMaker 6.5's NeXT Printer driver. Then I print them with lpr. Looking at the NeXT Printer's DB-9 Pin-Signal definition, I am thinking that a simple connection to one of the PC's serial ports isn't going to fly... But, I am no expert in this. Is it possible to print directly to the NeXT Printer from a PC serial port? And, if so, any advice on how to do the wiring would be most appreciated. 2. I wish they could talk... I am considering teaching myself about TCP/IP networking with my setup. I think I might understand enough to make the thin ethernet connection and set up the TCP/IP connect. Would anyone care to recommend a Win95 reference and/or advize me about how to go about setting up the software needed to enable me to transfer files with more than ftp, and maybe! to even print from Win95 through the NeXT to the NeXT printer. Do I need to get an NFS for Win95 product? Thank you, thank you, thank you... Doug Kinsella Oregon Health Sciences University kinselle@ohsu.edu or this newsgroup.
From: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: AppleTalk for OpenStep 4.1? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:42:45 -0500 Organization: TofuSoft Message-ID: <jchan-1003971842460001@as4-1.apk.net> Just what happend to Appletalk and Novell for OpenStep 4.1? I don't see any apps to configure for these protocols in the NeXTAdmin folder. Can I run CAP under OpenStep 4.1? --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.object.corba,comp.object,comp.soft-sys.nextstep From: seitzman@netcom.com (Brian H. Seitzman) Subject: *** NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP EXPERTS NEEDED! *** Message-ID: <seitzmanE6us37.Ew4@netcom.com> Organization: Optimum - San Francisco, CA Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 00:30:43 GMT Sender: seitzman@netcom17.netcom.com We have a number of positions available for people who've done significant work on the NeXTSTEP and OpenStep platforms. If you've got 1 or more years of experience, Optimum can be of help in finding you your next career opportunity! If you're interested in being considered for positions in engineering, administration or QA on the NeXTSTEP or OpenStep platforms, get in touch! -- Best regards, Brian H. Seitzman Technical Recruiter, Optimum Phone: (415) 863-2700 Fax: (415) 863-2777 E-mail: seitzman@netcom.com URL: http://www.crl.com/~optimum
From: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NS 3.3 Install disks for black Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:22:03 -0800 Organization: Peace Summit Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <3341eb71.291061163@news.jumppoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Could someone, somehow, do me a great favour and email me the NS 3.3 install and driver floppy disks for the black hardware? I lost mine. Thanks, Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html
From: rdingman@cc.mcafee.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:21:42 GMT Organization: McAfee Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <5g44b6$2t2@news.mcafee.com> References: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> To install NS3.3(everything in English) it takes about 250MB. ryan
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: AppleTalk for OpenStep 4.1? Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:55:17 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5g46a5$mm$2@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <jchan-1003971842460001@as4-1.apk.net> Cc: jchan@apk.net In <jchan-1003971842460001@as4-1.apk.net> Jerome Chan wrote: > Just what happend to Appletalk and Novell for OpenStep 4.1? I don't see > any apps to configure for these protocols in the NeXTAdmin folder. > > Can I run CAP under OpenStep 4.1? > > According to reports from some CAPer users you can. See http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should have over 8million sectors? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
From: Ivo Welch <ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Diagram2 Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 16:23:16 -0800 Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <3325F774.2A425209@anderson.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I have switched from NeXTStep to linux a couple of months ago. Unfortunately, I just discovered that I have a legacy diagram2 figure that I need to be able to insert into a latex document. Could someone please load this figure for me into a working diagram!2 app, save it as an .EPS file, and email the .EPS file? Help appreciated. Regards, /ivo welch -- Ivo Welch mailto:ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu ---------------------------- Ivo Welch.............. http://linux.agsm.ucla.edu/ UCLA AGSM Finance...... http://www.agsm.ucla.edu/finance/ Int'l WWW/Email Dirctry http://linux.agsm.ucla.edu/dir/ -- ---------------------------- --
From: Huiyang Yang <yang@focus.berkeley.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: want to read mail in Chinese and Japanese Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 11:47:10 -0800 Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <3325B6BE.167E@focus.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am using NeXT Electronic Mail Reader to read e-mail. Is it possible to read the mails in Chinese (GB or Big5) or Japanese? and how? Thanks Huiyang
From: spamblock.jimmilz@worldnet.att.net (Jim Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:44:29 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) wrote: > >I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's >block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still >leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that >it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should >have over 8million sectors? > >-- >Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College >707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. >707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 ><fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx> After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the drive? Regards, Jim Miller Chicagoland
From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 12 Mar 1997 10:50:40 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Message-ID: <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's : block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still : leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that : it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should : have over 8million sectors? Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending from manufacturer and model). See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. -- Ralf.
From: Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: I need software support help in DC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:39:16 -0500 Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Message-ID: <3326B204.2CD0@mail.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no NeXT skills. I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to fix a few bugs that have accumulated: I can connect to Novell server, but I can't get printer connectivity. My memory seems to run out and crash everything. I need to have someone help me set up my modem. If its possible, I'd like to be able to connect to an NT server and to determine if I could run NeXT and Windows 95 from the same machine. If you or someone you know could help, please let me know what your hourly rate would be. Thanks and regards, Don McKinnon 202 225 2770
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6xz85.CDK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:57:41 GMT In article <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de>, Ralf Jork <jork@dvs-hannover.de> wrote: >Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a >Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending >from manufacturer and model). >See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can guess, but I don't know it precisely. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6xz26.CCx@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:54:05 GMT In article <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Jim Miller <spamblock.jimmilz@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h >bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the >drive? Yes, that's what I've been doing. Unfortunately the drive doesn't want to change its sector count from what it was when the block size was at 2048. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
From: Ivo Welch <ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Diagram2 Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 10:16:31 -0800 Organization: The Anderson School at UCLA Message-ID: <3326F2FF.765EB1C5@anderson.ucla.edu> References: <3325F774.2A425209@anderson.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the overwhelming response. I already found someone. For those of you wondering why I switched, it was my assessment that OpenStep as a Unix-platform based machine was dead. Quite a pity, but I just needed modern updated unix tools. Regards, /ivo -- Ivo Welch mailto:ivo.welch@anderson.ucla.edu ---------------------------- Ivo Welch.............. http://linux.agsm.ucla.edu/ UCLA AGSM Finance...... http://www.agsm.ucla.edu/finance/ Int'l WWW/Email Dirctry http://linux.agsm.ucla.edu/dir/ -- ---------------------------- --
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <3326b816.0@news1.betacom.net> Date: 12 Mar 1997 19:00:59 GMT Control: cancel <3326b816.0@news1.betacom.net> Message-ID: <cancel.3326b816.0@news1.betacom.net> Sender: goextreme@hotmail.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: "Glenn P. Davis" <davis@unidata.ucar.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Printing TO Black printer from NT Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 14:07:37 -0700 Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research/Boulder, CO Message-ID: <33271B19.167E@unidata.ucar.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings: We have 68040 NeXT Cube with attached NeXT printer. On the same net is a WINtel box running NT 4.0. The NT machine can be configured to use UNIX lpd services from another machine, such as the Cube. However, I need to tell NT what kind of printer it is. NeXT 400dpi is _not_ one of the choices listed. (Why are we not surprised?) I've had some luck using the "Apple Personal Laserwriter" selection, but occasionally things foul up. Any suggestions for a better choice? I note that down in the bowels of the NT spool area there are a couple of human readable / editable printer description files. Has anyone generated one of these that is appropriate for the black printer/NeXT PostScript engine? Thanks. Glenn P. Davis davis@unidata.ucar.edu UCAR / Unidata PO Box 3000 3300 Mitchell Lane, Suite 170 Boulder, CO 80307-3000 Boulder, CO 80301 (303) 497 8643
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112334.SAA10233@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 5792999972767c8c31dcbfa4bce6080d - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:34:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Arrow keys in c-shell on OS4.0 Intel? Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: 5792999972767c8c31dcbfa4bce6080d - Responding To: jnw@phaedrus.demon.co.uk (Neville Wilford) Original Date: 7 Mar 1997 19:45:53 GMT Message-ID: 5792999972767c8c31dcbfa4bce6080d - > I'm running OS4.0 on a homebuilt Intel box fairly successfully. I > have been trying to follow the instructions in Bernhard Scholz's > excellent FAQ on Peanuts in order to enable use of the cursor/arrow > keys in a c-shell terminal window. Wow..... There is a MUCH simpler way. Get tcsh: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/unix/loginshells/tcsh.6.06.NIHS.b.gz which should be FULLY compatible with csh, and the arrow keys work automatically. (note: add tcsh to somewhere like /usr/local/bin/ and add /usr/local/bin/tcsh to /etc/shells) ZSH is a much better shell, but if you like csh and want arrow keys, tcsh is the easiest way, and it is already compiled TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: Dan Bikle <dbikle@rahul.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:56:30 GMT Organization: Bikle Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-User: dbikle Keywords: NeXT horizontal streaks Hi NeXT fans, This post is coming from a NeXT I *JUST* dredged out of my closet. It's running "3.0". The chip is a 68040 and it resides on a card in one of those boat-anchor-magnesium-cubes (not the pizza box style). I think it was manufactured about 1991 or 2. After I dusted him off and connected the periphs.... I pressed that magic button on the keyboard. It ... booted HURRAY!!!! Next, I tried out the 400dpi printer. I encountered a small problem. Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running across the page. I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. If memory serves me right, the toner cartridge for the 400dpi printer is identical as the toner cartridge for some kind of Apple laser printer. So, that is my long winded way of asking: Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? Or... Whats the model # of that identical Apple laser printer cartridge? Thanks so much... -Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 http://www.rahul.net/dbikle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112344.SAA10349@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 20f5ff5ba675cf4f14d6fce9efea6b6b - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:44:33 -0500 Subject: Re: AppleTalk for OpenStep 4.1? Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: 20f5ff5ba675cf4f14d6fce9efea6b6b - Responding To: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Original Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 18:42:45 -0500 Message-ID: 20f5ff5ba675cf4f14d6fce9efea6b6b - > Can I run CAP under OpenStep 4.1? There is a major CAP project underway for NeXTStep/OpenStep. You can find it linked to my 'other sites' page (under NeXT Users or Apps I think) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: mwerner@informatik.hu-berlin.de (Matthias Werner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Laptop for NeXTStep Date: 13 Mar 1997 12:57:43 GMT Organization: Humboldt University Berlin, Department of Computer Science Message-ID: <5g8tk7$m4h@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> Hi, We are searching for a laptop that is able to run under NeXTStep (3.3) We just got bad experiences with a TOSHIBA Satellite200CDS, since * there is no display driver for 800x600 available * there is no CMOS setup program, only programs for DOS/Win95 * the driver support for network and sound is at least questionable * the support (for NeXTStep) is zero. Does anybody know a laptop that meet our "high" demands? Did anybody get good (or bad) experience with a special computer? Thanx, Matthias
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d562180a488d041f3977506f580f4bdf - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 10:50:18 -0500 Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: d562180a488d041f3977506f580f4bdf - Responding To: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Original Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT Message-ID: d562180a488d041f3977506f580f4bdf - > I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's > block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still > leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it > that it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and > should have over 8million sectors? If you have partitions of LESS than 2.0 gig then NS can recognize the size of it. If it is 2.0 or over, then you won't get NS to recognize it. Someone also said recently that NS won't allow more than one NS partition per drive. This is one of the more frequently asked FAQs. TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703121542.KAA08763@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 36c453f56f38515880ccaa69f01a5123 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 10:42:28 -0500 Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Install disks for black Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: 36c453f56f38515880ccaa69f01a5123 - Responding To: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Original Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 21:22:03 -0800 Message-ID: 36c453f56f38515880ccaa69f01a5123 - > Could someone, somehow, do me a great favour and email me the NS > 3.3 install and driver floppy disks for the black hardware? I lost > mine. They can be found in NeXTanswers. If you can't find them, check my page, I think they are there, under http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ (goto "other sites" and then "NeXTAnswers") Let me know if you still can't find them TjL
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ethernet card problems Date: 13 Mar 1997 15:57:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5g985a$4h0@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Briefly, here is the problem that I am having. (1) An Ethernet card on one of our systems failed. The systems have been functioning for months. I am certain it was the card because when I used the same card on another machine, that machine gave the same message --- "Still searching for parent network ...etc. press 'c' to continue without network user accounts....." (2) Replaced the card with a new one - it worked for about a week. Now, the Ethernet card is not functioning again. Intel Pentium 100 MHz DECchip21040 Based Adapter Ethernet card (v3.36) My question: could there possibly be something on the motherboard that is causing the Ethernet card to fail repeatedly? Or, is that a dumb question? What should I check? Thanks for any help. Also, I tried to post this before but I notice that it never appeared on any of the newsgroups. So, please excuse the bandwidth if it should reappear at some later time. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:50:05 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5g9b7t$bbu@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> In article <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> writes: > Someone also said recently that NS won't allow more than one NS > partition per drive. This is incorrect. I've created multiple NS partitions on drives on many occasions. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:19:22 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Message-ID: <5g9cuq$245@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> <E6xz85.CDK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: [...] : It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change : the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, : the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. : : How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can : guess, but I don't know it precisely. See the Seagate "Barracuda 4LP ... Product Manual, Volume 1" for more info. BTW: the ST34371N I tested has 8,496,960 (0x81A740) blocks (512 byte sectors). Oh, and Mode Sense indeed reports "0" for this drive. According to the Seagate manual this translates to "all logical blocks". -- Ralf.
From: graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au (Graeme Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT T-shirts? Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:12:05 GMT Organization: Uni of Qld Message-ID: <33286d83.35286771@news.uq.edu.au> References: <keith-0303972301490001@ad23-020.compuserve.com> <edewE6tAyD.DGM@netcom.com> On Mon, 10 Mar 1997 05:23:00 GMT, edew@netcom.com (Eric Dew) wrote: >In article <keith-0303972301490001@ad23-020.compuserve.com> keith@cambra.com (Keith J. Cambra) writes: >> >> >>can you still get NeXT t-shirts? >> >>please reply to keith@cambra.com >> >>thanks - keith > >Sure, the short sleeves are $895 and the long sleeves are $2599. :-) > >EDEW I will sell one of my short sleeve ones for US$895. Graeme.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Laptop for NeXTStep Date: 13 Mar 1997 21:26:42 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5g9rei$n7p@news4.digex.net> References: <5g8tk7$m4h@hahn.informatik.hu-berlin.de> mwerner@informatik.hu-berlin.de (Matthias Werner) wrote: > Hi, > We are searching for a laptop that is able to run under NeXTStep (3.3) We just got bad experiences with a TOSHIBA Satellite200CDS, since * there is no display driver for 800x600 available * there is no CMOS setup program, only programs for DOS/Win95 * the driver support for network and sound is at least questionable * the support (for NeXTStep) is zero. I think maybe the best laptop out right now is the Techra 730 (I think the 740 and 750 might work as well). It has a 1024X768 pixel display, and drivers are available from bifrost (they also resell the techra's with NS loaded on, I think). Anyway, check them out, I'm sure they'll be able to give you all the low down info you need: http://www.bifrostworks.com/ -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: graemeg@biosci.uq.edu.au (Graeme Griffiths) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NextStep for Intel. Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 21:16:10 GMT Organization: Uni of Qld Message-ID: <33286de6.35385513@news.uq.edu.au> References: <01bc2673$d78f0460$71b797ce@jeanladu> <331AEF6B.9C1@worldbank.org> On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 10:34:03 -0500, Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> wrote: >Jean Paul Ladue wrote: >> Where can I find information on NextStep for Intel? I wednt to the Next >> website but had no luck, all I found was a bunch info about OpenStep. Also >> what is the academic price for NextStep. Thanks. > >The shipping version of NeXTSTEP is now called OPENSTEP for Mach. So what' >you want is the Intel version of that. > >-- >Stefano Pagiola >850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA >All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect >those of my employer If you want to buy OpenStep for Mach, Intel see: http://www.optimal-object.com/ They sell all versions of OpenStep to Corporations and Individuals Graeme! http://www.uq.edu.au/~bcggriff/Graeme.html
From: blake@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IS there a point to run NS v3.2 today? Date: 13 Mar 1997 09:23:12 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <5g92kg$pid@wilma.widomaker.com> Is NeXTSTEP for Intel v3.2 still worth running? Will it not run any newer apps?? I am running AMD 5x86 160Mz, 24mb RAM, SCSI -- used to run NS 3.2 on 486DX/2 66 16mb. bp [[[ URL: http://www.widomaker.com/~blake ]]] +--------------------------------- ---- -- - - - - - |Blake W. Patterson "I'm not quite clear about what you just spoke- |blake@widomaker.com Was that a parable, or a very subtle joke?" | +--ToriAmos-LoreenaMcKennitt-Enya-DavidWilcox-SarahMcLachlan-ElvisCostello--+ +-------DavidBowie-CrashTestDummies-DarWilliams-RustedRoot-Pixies-XTC-------+
From: bubba <bubba@imag.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ORIGINAL BLACK Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 23:41:34 -0800 Organization: Cyberion Networking Corp. Message-ID: <3329012E.7046@imag.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FOR SALE ALL ORIGINAL * ALL BLACK * ALL IN GREAT SHAPE NeXTstation color (28 MB RAM, 100 MB HD), Ext HD (600 MB), keyboard, mouse, 17" Megapixel Color Monitor, CD ROM drive, NeXT Colour BJ Printer (360 dpi), NeXT Laser Printer (400 dpi), and lots of software (Adobe Illustrator, Altsys Virtuoso, intuitiv 3D, Compose in Colour, Wordperfect, Appsoft Image,) All original boxes, cables and manuals included. Also available "ushare" software for NeXT-Mac networking - never used. ALL OFFERS WELCOME (+ shipping) to matthew@imag.net
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: IS there a point to run NS v3.2 today? Date: 14 Mar 97 08:47:46 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar14084746@howard.one.net> References: <5g92kg$pid@wilma.widomaker.com> In-reply-to: blake@widomaker.com's message of 13 Mar 1997 09:23:12 -0500 In article <5g92kg$pid@wilma.widomaker.com>, blake@widomaker.com (Blake Patterson) writes: Is NeXTSTEP for Intel v3.2 still worth running? Will it not run any newer apps?? I am running AMD 5x86 160Mz, 24mb RAM, SCSI -- used to run NS 3.2 on 486DX/2 66 16mb. It will run most apps which don't require OpenStep. With a patch from NeXT's site, it will even run most apps which require NS3.3. Given your hardware, I can't recommend going with OpenStep (it will be slow), and NS3.3 probably doesn't buy you enough to make it worth purchasing. OTOH, you need to upgrade. I ran a 150Mhz i486 (3x50Mhz versus 4x40Mhz - faster memory and VLB!) w/32M for a couple months last fall before I got my P133 system w/HX motherboard. The faster 486 was nice, but the difference between that and a Pentium for NeXTSTEP is night and day. I just hope the PPro upgrade I'm scraping for will be as nice. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: 14 Mar 97 08:43:57 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar14084357@howard.one.net> References: <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> <5g9b7t$bbu@crcnis3.unl.edu> In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 13 Mar 1997 16:50:05 GMT In article <5g9b7t$bbu@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: In article <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> writes: > Someone also said recently that NS won't allow more than one NS > partition per drive. This is incorrect. I've created multiple NS partitions on drives on many occasions. One thing it appears that you can't do in this area is create multiple NS partitions on an fdisk partitioned drive. You can use BSD style paritioning just fine, easy as pie. Two partitions, three, forty-five. I heard rumor once that you could use BSD to partition an NS fdisk partition. Could find no way to make it work. I even partitioned another disk with BSD, and then did a raw copy of that other disk to a larger NS partition. Couldn't see the partitions. It appears to me that the BSD partitioning and the fdisk partitioning are handled by drivers at the same layer, so they can't overlap. I'd _love_ to be proven wrong, of course. Part of the problem _may_ be that BSD partitioning writes certain partitioning information to the disk label, which is perhaps not available for that use when you use fdisk. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 14 Mar 1997 18:47:01 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Is that an acceptable config for NS3.3? I find that on a P90, it is rather not that responsive. But will 32MB make a significant difference?
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5gcaj4$fnt@news.digifix.com> NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 * Prolog When I mentioned that I'v done this, some good people at next-prog@omnigroup.com suggested that I upload this. So here it is * Introduction - This is for Windows NT 4.0 to print on a NeXT Black printer * System Requirements - Load the lpr package on your network configuration on your NT machine * Downloads ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.readme or by World Wide Web http://www.gomeco.com/next/ Here is the Readme file: ---------------------------------------------------------- >From Y. Michopoulos, yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com, March 13, 1997 This is a compressed directory, with everything you need to install a postscript printer driver (PPD) for the NeXT printer that is connected to your black hardware, and you want to printon it from your Windows NT 4.0 machine. This is offered to all those that persist on the black hardware dream! This is a hack! No guaranties are implied about anything. You do everything at your OWN risk. However, if you have any problems drop me a line at yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.milor yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com I'll try to answer. It has been asumed that: 1. your NT machine is already connected through the net to yourBlack NeXT machine. This black machine is your print server because yourblack NeXT printer is connected to it. 2. you know the IP address of your server and the name of the "local" name of the printer as it appears in the PrintManager panel (usually it is called Local_Printer). 3. the lpr package is loaded in your network configuration on your NT machine If you know how to add lpr printers then use the directory NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d as the source of yourntprint.inf file when asked. If you do not understand the previous statement then here's what you have to do. Please follow the steps: 1. unzip the file in a directory of your choice in your Windows NT 4.0 filesystem 2. Launch your(Double click ) "Printers" icon from your "My Computer" icon 3. Double click on the "Add Printer" icon 4. The "Add Printer Wizard" panel will show up; Select "My Computer" and then "Next>" 5. Push the "Add Port" button if you have not already configured a network printer before 6. In the "Printer Ports" panel that shows up, select "LPR Port" and then hit the "New Port" button 7. In the "Add LPR compatible printer" panel fill in the IP address of your Black print server in the first field and the name of the black printer as known to that machine (usually Local_Printer) 8. Then hit the OK button 9. In the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the port will show up in the list of ports.Select it and Hit "Next>" again. 10. Hit the "Have Disk" button and then on the "Install From Disk" panel hit browseand go (cd) to the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d dir and select the ntprint.inf file and hit OK 11. Now in the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the option NeXT will appear (among others) in the list of Manufacturers. Select it and then select the only available option in the list of Printers: "NeXT 400 dpi black printer". Hit "Next >" 12. Finish the instalation by selecting whichever subsequent options you desire. ________________________________________________________ Cheers to all,
From: kinselle@ohsu.edu (Doug Kinsella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing TO Black printer from NT Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 20:08:31 GMT Organization: OHSU Message-ID: <kinselle.19.3329B03E@ohsu.edu> References: <33271B19.167E@unidata.ucar.edu> Adobe PageMaker 6.5 for Win95 has a driver for the NeXT Printer. So far, I have been able to transfer print files (.ps) via diskette and then use lpr to print. No sophisticated tests, yet. I hope this helps. ...Ahem. I would like to try to network my NeXTStation (Ver2.1, Monochrome, 8Mb memory, small drive = not developer's version) and NeXT printer to a pentium running Win95. I think I can learn how to do the TCP/IP connection, but would you happen to know what other software, an NFS manager or whatever, that Win95 needs to print to the NeXT Printer? Something better than FTP for file transfers would be nice, too. Advice+warnings+etc would be most welcome. I am just a PC database developer and some of the manual and FAQ warnings are making me very nervous. Yours sincerely, but also scared and alone in the dark, E. Doug Kinsella kinselle@ohsu.edu Oregon Health Sciences University
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 14 Mar 1997 15:03:15 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gclfj$1hl@mpaque.mpaque> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> In article <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> writes: > Is that an acceptable config for NS3.3? I find that on a P90, it is rather > not that responsive. But will 32MB make a significant difference? Compared to, say. 16 or 24 Mb, then yes, a 32 Mb system will do significantly better. The fastest, highest memory system I regularly use for OPENSTEP development is a Pentium box running at 90 MHz with 32 Mb of memory. It works for me... -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 15 Mar 1997 00:25:12 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc30d7$c2b56160$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5gclfj$1hl@mpaque.mpaque> Yes, it seems like after installing NeXTstep onto a P90-32MB system, things seems to move significantly smoother. I wonder will there be very comfortable response/speed with a 166 compared to running NT. I find that NT isn't that great on a P133-32MB system. Michael
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: 15 Mar 1997 02:32:02 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5gd1n2$s4d@news.next.com> References: <SHESS.97Mar14084357@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Mar14084357@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) > I heard rumor once that you could use BSD to partition an NS fdisk > partition. Could find no way to make it work. I even partitioned > another disk with BSD, and then did a raw copy of that other disk to a > larger NS partition. Couldn't see the partitions. It appears to me > that the BSD partitioning and the fdisk partitioning are handled by > drivers at the same layer, so they can't overlap. > > I'd _love_ to be proven wrong, of course. Yeah, you can do this. I think. It's been a while since I tried it, and I don't have a machine handy to recreate the scenario. If you first create multiple DOS-style partitions with fdisk, only one can be tagged for NextStep/OpenStep (type A7). However, you can make that really big, and then run disk -i -p to create multiple FFS-style partitions within the DOS Primary partition. So, do: fdisk /dev/rsd0h and create a NextStep partition, then disk -i /dev/rsd0h joe
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: unknown piece of hardware Message-ID: <332A0954.4A1@bigserver.com> From: John Dougan <jdougan@bigserver.com> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 18:28:36 -0800 Organization: Big Server Software Incorporated MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have aquired a peice of telecom hardware that looks interesting but has no manuals and was hoping that someone could give me some more information on it. It's a small black plastic box about the size of a flip top pack of cigarettes. It has green lettering on it that says: Call LINK Telecommunications interface Quest Inc. There are 5 ports on it: Wall jack, Phone jack, Audio In/Out (full size DIN-5), Power, and Serial Port (Mini DIN-8). There are 2 LED's, one red marked Ring, and one green marked Voice. From the little I know about where it came from, it probably was used on a NeXT cube at one point. There is no address or other manufacturer info beyone the Quest Inc. All pointers appreciated, please cc: to me as I don't get much opportunity to read these groups. Thanks, --john -- John Dougan jdougan@bigserver.com
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: HELP: Procmail - forward to user? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 15 Mar 1997 08:53:37 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5gdo2h$563@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hello, I was just trying to install "procmail" on my system, for this special purpose: I want it to take each incoming mail and if teh subject line matches, teh mail should go to me AND someone else (alternatively, only someone else). However, I don't seem to find any provisions for that... the ebst I got is that the mail went to the proper mailbox in the spool directory, but owned by me so that the other user didn't get at it... Is there any way, procmail or not, that would selectively forward my email to someone else? Please Cc: me when you reply to the newsgroup, our news server is lagging by ~4 days... Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: (Driver Kit...) Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:47:41 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5gduod$6f1$5@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I was trying to write a Device Driver for EPIX frame grabber card under NextStep 3.2. My problem is that when ever I try to open the port, and if the video signal is not present at the port (camera is not powered on) the system hangs. Is there any way I could time this out. I mean if the port is not available (not powered) just don't open it!! Any pointer on this will be helpful. Thank you very much for your time ... Sanjeev
From: shaffer@ernie.wsc.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with Adobe Font Date: 13 Mar 1997 23:50:56 -0800 Organization: Wayne State College Sender: shaffer@ernie.wsc.edu Message-ID: <x6iv2uoqse.fsf@ernie.wsc.edu> Hello, I posted this elsewhere but without much luck so here goes... I installed some Adobe fonts which I received with AdobeIllustrator (for SPARC but I don't need the fonts on that machine). After installing them in /LocalLibrary/Fonts and runnng buildafmdir I sucessfully got them to show up in the font panel. But, when I choose one of these fonts in Edit, for example, the text that I type shows up in Courier (no matter which of the new fonts I pick) and the text cursor doesn't seem to follow with the text. That is, if I type 'Hello there' the text cursor will only get to the first "l" or so (although the text looks fine -- except for being in Couries). Argh! I can't post the font because they are Commercial but I would be willing to send one to anyone who is willing to test it for me. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Oh yes, please ignore the reply address above. The correct address is below. I haven't had time to figure out how to tell gnus where I want my mail to be sent... David -- C. David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 (402)375-7471 NeXTMail/MIME welcome!
From: jcassidy@nova.genesoft.com (James Cassidy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Cost of Openstep runtime for WinNT? Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 13:00:57 GMT Organization: HookUp Communication Corporation, Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Message-ID: <332a99c0.39513338@nnrp.wat.hookup.net> Has the cost of the Openstep runtime for WinNT platforms been determined yet? For Win95? (I remember there being much discussion about the potential for NeXT to shoot itself in the foot by pricing the runtime so high that distributing applicatons with this cost built in would be too expensive.) Also, do Openstep apps support non-postscript printers? Regards, Jim.
From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Michael Kagalenko) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Cyrillic in OPENSTEP/Mach Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:08:35 -0500 Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA Message-ID: <5gcsqj$d0n@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Content-Type: text/html Have anyone managed to display Cyrillic text in KOI-8 encoding under NeXT OS ? I installed russian fonts from peanuts, but switching them on does not result in correct text display. I guess, it is mapping problem. Can one convert X fonts into NeXT fonts ? Thanks, Michael -- ABILITY,n. The natural equipment to accomplish some small part of the meaner ambitions distinguishing able men from dead ones. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing TO Black printer from NT References: <33271B19.167E@unidata.ucar.edu> <kinselle.19.3329B03E@ohsu.edu> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <332af680.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 15 Mar 97 19:20:32 GMT kinselle@ohsu.edu (Doug Kinsella) wrote: >...Ahem. I would like to try to network my NeXTStation (Ver2.1, Monochrome, >8Mb memory, small drive = not developer's version) and NeXT printer to a >pentium running Win95. I think I can learn how to do the TCP/IP connection, >but would you happen to know what other software, an NFS manager or whatever, >that Win95 needs to print to the NeXT Printer? Something better than FTP for >file transfers would be nice, too. Many people are using a product call SAMBA. It allows printing and I think file serving from the next. It might be available at these two sites: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/ ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/pub/comp/platforms/next/ Before I knew of this product, I found a different solution. Check my specific web page at: http://www.bcog.org/~dreely/OpenStep/printing.html Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Date: 16 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <608858488427@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160620.BAA08339@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: ae13cc6287c0c24d4ad0a2f5c1b44e84 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:20:13 -0500 Subject: paritioning (Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive) Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: ae13cc6287c0c24d4ad0a2f5c1b44e84 - Responding To: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Original Date: 14 Mar 97 08:43:57 > One thing it appears that you can't do in this area is create > multiple NS partitions on an fdisk partitioned drive. You can use > BSD style paritioning just fine, easy as pie. Two partitions, > three, forty-five. so how do you make a 'good' partition (BSD) versus a bad one (fdisk). I've never done this and have no experience with it TjL
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From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Cost of Openstep runtime for WinNT? Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:38:18 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5gi7aa$2bi@news.platinum.com> References: <332a99c0.39513338@nnrp.wat.hookup.net> Cc: jcassidy@nova.genesoft.com In <332a99c0.39513338@nnrp.wat.hookup.net> it appeared that James Cassidy wrote: > > Has the cost of the Openstep runtime for WinNT platforms been > determined yet? For Win95? > > (I remember there being much discussion about the potential for > NeXT to shoot itself in the foot by pricing the runtime so high that > distributing applicatons with this cost built in would be too > expensive.) > > Also, do Openstep apps support non-postscript printers? Apple & NeXT don't seem to be too eager to talk about pricing. The pricing model is doubtless under review, since it will be greatly affected by the 4+ million per year licenses that will be generated by Rhapsody, vs. the much, much smaller numbers for historical sales of OPENSTEP. Since the code base for all the Apple OpenStep products Rhapsody, OPENSTEP/NT, etc.) will be largely common, the pricing model for all will need to be reviewed. I don't expect new pricing until Rhapsody is actually available on the PowerPC. -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 17 Mar 1997 07:46:13 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5giss5$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> wrote: >Is that an acceptable config for NS3.3? I find that on a P90, it is rather >not that responsive. But will 32MB make a significant difference? I bought a P90 about two years ago, and since my budget was rather tight, it initially had 16 MB. Not that much fun to work with, but after upgrading to 32MB, it was quite fast, and felt a lot snappier then my black machine. Going to 48 MB gave another performance boost for compilations, so if you do development, I recommend the investment. Otherwise, 32 MB will do just fine IMHO. While I'm here: does anybody have experience or recommendations wrt. the CPU overdrive upgrade for P90 machines? It's not that expensive, so I'm thinking about upgrading the CPU. Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom.tech,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: HELP: unknown piece of hardware Date: 17 Mar 1997 07:52:49 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5git8h$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <332A0954.4A1@bigserver.com> John Dougan <jdougan@bigserver.com> wrote: >I have aquired a peice of telecom hardware that looks interesting but >has no manuals and was hoping that someone could give me some more >information on it. > >It's a small black plastic box about the size of a flip top pack of >cigarettes. It has green lettering on it that says: http://www.ilink.de That's a mix box, a DSP extension to send faxes, serves as a phone answering machine, and let's you dial phone numbers. Neat piece of hardware, but beware, if you don't have the latest software release, it can hang your machine. The mix box will only run under NEXTSTEP, and unless you buy the DSP card for Intel machines, you are limited to black hardware. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: How to partition second SCSI disk Date: 17 Mar 1997 09:24:00 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Message-ID: <5gj2jg$j8i@mississippi.rivm.nl> I want to partition a second 2 Gb SCSI disk in fdisk-style so I can put NS, DOS and NT partitions on it. I don't have to be able to boot from this disk. Is this possible at all? I have tried this: 1. made a partition (800 MB) with NS fdisk. OK 2. made an entry is /etc/disktab with one partition specified and initialized the disk with /usr/etc/disk. See below for distab-entry and result of initialization step. 3. I could mount the partition at this point, but the fdisk-style partitions had disappeared! 4. made the same partition as before with NS fdisk; could still mount the partition 5. made two more partitions (DOS primary and extended) with DOS FDISK.EXE. I copied some files to these. 6. After reboot in NS, the primary DOS partition was automatically mounted (no bother that I didn't see the extended; I know this is not possible) 7. I could not mount the NS partition any more. Result: localhost> /usr/etc/mount -v -t 4.3 -o rw,noquota /dev/sd1a /Extra mount: /dev/sd1a on /Extra: I/O error mount: giving up on: /Extra 8. I also tried the same steps, but with the starting point of the partition in /etc/disktab set to 1 (pa#1) Can anybody *please* help me and explain what is happening. What is happening during the disk initialization; is the disk written from the first sector and is therefor the fdisk partitiontable deleted? Is what I want possible at all? And if not, why *is* this scheme working on the first (bootable) disk (I have a PRIM DOS, EXT DOS and NS partition on this disk, in this order). Is an antry in /etc/disktab usable? In other words: does an entry always apply to the disk as a whole or to a fdisk-style partition? If a disk is fdisk partitioned, how can I access the (maximum) four partitions. Is a NS partition always the 'a' partition in the device names /dev/rsd1a, /dev/rsd1b, etc. (this seems to be the case on my first disk). Result of disk initialization step: localhost> /usr/etc/disk -t IBM-DORS32160 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: IBM-DORS32160 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1637760 125 5 8192 1024 32 10 60 4096 t Warning: 4096 bytes per inode impossible due to cylinder group size, using 3969 bytes per inode Reduce cylinder group size to reduce bytes per inode. Warning: 365 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1637760 sectors in 2621 cylinders of 5 tracks, 125 sectors 838.5Mb in 82 cyl groups (32 c/g, 10.24Mb/g, 2048 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 32, 20160, 40288, 60416, 80544, 100672, 120800, 140928, 160032, 180160, ....still more block-numbers... initialization complete Disktab entry (made the size a little smaller than 800 MB): IBM-DORS32160|IBM DORS-32160 WA6A5U5Z|IBM DORS-32160 WA6A:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#3600:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#1637760:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment
From: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help! Console is gone Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:32:06 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5gjdk6$hub@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I just logged in into my NS4.1 PC, and TickleServices said something about While loading `!Initialization!' for `/LocalLibrary/TickleServices/Mail.ts', TCL error, couldn't create error file for command: I/O error. Check console for more information. So I checked the console and oh surprise, nothing opens. There is also no console file in the /tmp directory. So I rebooted, for no avail. I don't remember doing anything spectacular recently, other than replacing my Ethernet board... Any insight as how to get my console back is really greatly appreciated. Thanks, - Stan --- Nature photography: http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~stanj NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161823.NAA03615@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a1ccbf6e829d70861d9b333fc57238bb - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:22:58 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP: Procmail - forward to user? Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: a1ccbf6e829d70861d9b333fc57238bb - Responding To: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Original Date: 15 Mar 1997 08:53:37 GMT Message-ID: a1ccbf6e829d70861d9b333fc57238bb - > I want it to take each incoming mail and if teh subject line > matches, teh mail should go to me AND someone else (alternatively, > only someone else). This recipe will match any message that BEGINS with "very important" and send a copy to "someone@somewhere.ext" :0c * ^Subject: very important ! someone@somewhere.ext This will do the same, but it will NOT leave you a copy: :0 * ^Subject: very important ! someone@somewhere.ext BTW the best place to ask procmail questions is 'procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de', a list you should subscribe to... plus you won't have to worry about your newsfeed being slow for questions like these. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: 17 Mar 1997 15:50:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu> I'd like to add more memory and a larger hard drive to my system. It's a NeXT Turbo (slab). 1) What SCSI hard drives are QUIET, fast, and reliable in the 1.0 to 2.0 GB range? Is there a problem with putting a drive of this size in a 'slab' as far as heat is concerned? Where's a good place to buy one? 2) What about memory? I'm looking to add about 32MB. Anything special I should consider beyond 72pin? Nanoseconds? Non-P something or other? Where's a good place to buy some? Answer by e-mail, please. Thanks for your input. John
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: 17 Mar 1997 17:33:39 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5gjv9j$5es@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu> john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: > 1) What SCSI hard drives are QUIET, fast, and reliable in the 1.0 to > 2.0 GB range? Is there a problem with putting a drive of this size in > a 'slab' as far as heat is concerned? Where's a good place to buy one? The Seagate Hawk 2XL is a great drive. It's not a Barracuda, but I wouldn't want to put a Barracuda internal to a NeXT. > 2) What about memory? I'm looking to add about 32MB. Anything special > I should consider beyond 72pin? Nanoseconds? Non-P something or other? > Where's a good place to buy some? This stuff should be in the FAQ. gdm
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 12:59:39 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <An=MO=m00iVD85rYEo@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.misc: 17-Mar-97 New Hard Drive and More Mem.. by John Badanes@romdas.HIP. > 1) What SCSI hard drives are QUIET, fast, and reliable in the 1.0 to > 2.0 GB range? Seagate and Micropolis are good brand names. Fujitsu and Quantum are adequate. > Is there a problem with putting a drive of this size in > a 'slab' as far as heat is concerned? Probably not, although I'd avoid putting in a 7200 RPM drive like the Seagate Baracuda since those do run fairly hot. > Where's a good place to buy one? Mail order. Pick up an issue of Computer Shopper, or any PC trade rag, and peruse the ads. > 2) What about memory? I'm looking to add about 32MB. Anything special > I should consider beyond 72pin? Nanoseconds? Non-P something or other? You want 72-pin, 70 ns, non-parity SIMM's in pairs-- probably two 4x32's if you want to add 32 MB. > Where's a good place to buy some? http://www.thechipmerchant.com/prices.htm -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mwatson@next.com (Matt Watson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: 17 Mar 1997 18:59:26 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gk4ae$cq3@news.next.com> References: <5gjv9j$5es@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: > 2) What about memory? I'm looking to add about 32MB. Anything special > I should consider beyond 72pin? Nanoseconds? Non-P something or other? > Where's a good place to buy some? I recommend 32MB 60ns non-parity, 72-pin simms. Don't get EDO memory. You should be able to find them for < $150 each. matt.
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help with NeXT Nomenclature. Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:51:11 -0800 Organization: Party of One Message-ID: <332CE9DF.60B1@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my current understanding of the situation: 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. It runs on HP's, Sun's Intel and NeXT. Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And what s OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on black? 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? And are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I don't think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 17 Mar 1997 20:59:54 GMT Organization: Subscriber, Pacific Internet, Singapore Message-ID: <01bc330c$7b1f3c40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5giss5$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote in article > While I'm here: does anybody have experience or recommendations wrt. > the CPU overdrive upgrade for P90 machines? It's not that expensive, > so I'm thinking about upgrading the CPU. I am using a P90 with 32MB now and yes, like you said, it is more responsive than 16Mb by a margin though I am a little hungry for more. It works just fine for the time being. Does the CPU overdrive you mentioned useable for other CPU speeds? If not, it might be just a temporary solution. Michael Chan
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: 17 Mar 1997 21:35:01 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5gkde5$8hp@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> "Michael Chan" <Michael_Chan@compugraph.com.sg> wrote: >Is that an acceptable config for NS3.3? I find that on a P90, it is rather >not that responsive. But will 32MB make a significant difference? I run 3.3 here on a SPARC 5/85, which I figure is about as fast as a P90 in CPU (other stuff might be faster). It had 16MB, and was tolerable. Now at 80MB it's a lot better. I beat on it pretty hard. Hard enough it still swaps. :-) I've got two black machines at home, and 64MB vs. 16MB makes a world of difference. I say put in as much as you can. Assuming you're running in color, I'd say 32MB is a good idea and you'll notice. ab
From: Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is 32MB a reasonable amount for NS3.3 on P90? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 02:25:37 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <332E4371.6F33@mysolution.com> References: <01bc30a5$b07c3b40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> <5giss5$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <01bc330c$7b1f3c40$081378cb@cimichael.compugraph.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael Chan wrote: > I am using a P90 with 32MB now and yes, like you said, it is more > responsive than 16Mb by a margin though I am a little hungry for more. It > works just fine for the time being. I hope you are not using that for scanning:-) I have tried to run NeXT systems (both black NeXT and Intel based) in many different RAM configurations and have personally find 32Mb RAM insufficient. With price of RA so cheap today, why not go a little overboard and get as much as your motherboard can handle?:wq
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703180246.VAA07990@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 21:45:43 -0500 Subject: Another NeXT hardware lookalike Page 48 in PCMagazine (April 8, 1997, cover story=The 1997 Utility Guide) Micron is putting out a computer that looks a lot like a slab (actually you can't see the CPU unit, just the monitor and keyboard). The keyboard looks exactly like the L-shaped NeXT keyboard + F-keys. FWIW TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Park Jeongyoung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 18 Mar 1997 07:04:48 GMT Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea Message-ID: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? Park, Jeongyoung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181514.KAA07461@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: eebe3f4f1efe9d66dfdea54ca6e8901b - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:14:15 -0500 Subject: Re: Help! Console is gone Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: eebe3f4f1efe9d66dfdea54ca6e8901b - Responding To: stanj@cs.stanford.edu (Stan Jirman) Original Date: 17 Mar 1997 12:32:06 GMT Message-ID: eebe3f4f1efe9d66dfdea54ca6e8901b - > So I checked the console and oh surprise, nothing opens. There is > also no console file in the /tmp directory. So I rebooted, for no > avail. I don't remember doing anything spectacular recently, other > than replacing my Ethernet board... > > Any insight as how to get my console back is really greatly > appreciated. The first step should be seeing if the device /dev/console is present (which I believe it is, or else you wouldn't be able to login). What does # ls -l /dev/console reveal? I don't know what magic NS uses to get the output of /dev/console to appear in /tmp/console.log, but would be interested to find out (which would be step #2 for you after confirming /dev/console exists) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:02:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it would not mount. Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice on how to mount the OD? Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to the crash. Thanks, Bill Anderson
From: "Kurt E. Huhner" <khuhner@communique.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: OS 4.1 Display Install Problems Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 02:50:25 -0600 Organization: NCS, Inc; http://www.ncs-ssc.com Message-ID: <332FA8D1.2E4@communique.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have recently installed OS4.1 for Mach on Intel. The install procedure produces a kernel panic in "pmap_remove_all 3". If I reboot with the "config=Default" option I can run under 640x480 using monochrome. After triple checking the capabilities of my display adapter/monitor I change tehm via Config.app and reboot. After the messages scroll by I end up with a blank screen, from which there is only one exit: reset. I am using a Diamond Stealth Video 64 VRAM PCI card and MagDX17F and chose 1024x768 @70Hz RGB888/32. The display adapter is listed as supported per NeXTAnswers. Anyone able to offer suggestions? khuhner@ncs-ssc.com
From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:17:13 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Message-ID: <5go7e9$6s9@mississippi.rivm.nl> References: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Cc: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr In <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Park Jeongyoung wrote: > I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. > 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. > How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? > > Park, Jeongyoung As long as you want to use the disk for NS only, I think you should initialize the disk with UNIX-style partitions. See NextAnswers doc# 1533 how to do this. This doc states that for large disks you should not just use Builddisk or /usr/etc/disk, but make an entry in /etc/disktab. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181525.KAA07753@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: e0e905b4e3687b9bfe51a316e18f7603 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:25:13 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Nomenclature. Cc: comp-sys-next-misc@antigone.com References: e0e905b4e3687b9bfe51a316e18f7603 - Responding To: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Original Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 22:51:11 -0800 Message-ID: e0e905b4e3687b9bfe51a316e18f7603 - I'll give you my take and see what others have to correct (if they haven't already, since my newsfeed is behind_ > 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. that's pretty much the case. OpenStep != NeXTStep exactly, but close. We'll get into that later. > It runs on HP's, Sun's Intel and NeXT. NeXTStep 3.2 (and perhaps even 3.1 on some very limited scale?) ran on NeXT and Intel machines. NeXTStep 3.3 ran on NeXT, Intel, Sparc, and HP OpenStep for MACH runs on NeXT, Intel, Sparc, and HP (although HP support seems to have appeared even when they said it would not) > Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? And > what s OpenStep for Mach? Is this just another name for OS on > black? This is where the major change set in. There is now OpenStep for Mach (see above), OpenStep for Solaris (see www.sun.com), and OpenStep for NT (ie for WindowsNT). The idea being that you can create and compile an OpenStep app on any one of these platforms and then recompile it to run on the other platforms. > 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, > What the hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it > obsolete? And are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I > am just trying to get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? NS 3.3 is obsolete in that the entire underlying programming code changes in OpenStep. (OpenStep for MACH will allow you to run NeXTStep apps, but NeXTStep will not run OpenStep-specific apps). However, there is a lot of demand for NS 3.3 because it is the last release of NS and people who like NeXTStep and want to be able to compile NeXTStep apps want 3.3 (obviously not all apps have been ported to OpenStep yet, so to compile them you have to have a NeXTStep machine). > 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this > one). you & me both. > I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I > don't think it is organized very well. I won't disagree with you. I've seen worse, and better. Ever try to find pricing information on their web site? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Nomenclature. Date: 19 Mar 1997 03:51:57 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gnnst$iee@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <332CE9DF.60B1@earthlink.net> Cc: rmarkle@earthlink.net In <332CE9DF.60B1@earthlink.net> Rich Markle wrote: > Hello I used NS in the 3.2 days, but I have been away for awhile. I am > a little confused by the new names for the NeXTStep OS(s). Here is my > current understanding of the situation: > oh what the hey?! I'll take a stab...note disclaimer at end. > 1.) OpenStep is a the latest version of NS. technically, OPENSTEP is a the latest version of NS. OpenStep is an operating system independent object oriented API. > It runs on HP's, Sun's, Intel and NeXT. it runs on Sun's, Intel and NeXT in its MACH version, that sold by NeXT/Apple. It runs on HP's w/o the GUI as PDO et al. Full GUI version of NeXT's "operating environment" support for HP was removed after 3.3. it runs on Sun's on top of Solaris in its Solaris version. But then we're back to OpenStep, the API (supported on multiple operating systems) > Point of confusion: what is OpenStep for NT? that's a product sold by NeXT/Apple called OPENSTEP Enterprise which has the look and feel of WinNT on top of WinNT, (hardly startling, but that'$ what they a$ked for...) but with the objects of NeXT. > And what OpenStep for Mach? That's same as #1, above, the OpenStep API on top of the MACH operating system > Is this just another name for OS on black? yes, and white, yellow and (sans GUI) green. > 2.) If my my admittedly weak assumptions are correct above, What the > hell is going on with NS 3.3 ? People sell it. Is it obsolete? that would depend on what your needs are. it is as fully functional as is any previous version of NeXT's operating system, under any name. It run's all NeXTSTEP apps but does not run OPENSTEP apps. It does not allow cross-operating system, cross-platform development from a single source tree with (only) a re-compile. > And are there comatablity issues (I'm sure there are, I am just trying to > get an explanation) between NS 3.3 & OS 4.1? simply (perhaps too) put, NS 3.2 and NS 3.3 look and feel the same (user experience) and other than the MIME mail support in 3.3, are pretty similar in functionality and support of existing apps. some additional functionality provided in 3.3 is available via patch (eg. foundation kit, to allow the use of OmniWeb 2.x). There are underlying mods and bug fixes to 3.3. but from the user point of view, they're very similar. once you go to OS 4.x, there is backward compatibility to run existing NS apps, and the ability to develop new apps to the improved, evolved API for use on the variety of hardware platforms and operating systems listed above, with the obvious addition of Rhapsody on PPC h/w. > 3.) What is the difference between PDO and EOF? (Clueless on this one). > well as I remember. PDO is a product that allows, minus GUI, the ability to locate and process the objects in your app over the network, and across various machines, primarily servers, that don't per se run NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. EOF is what came after DBKit, much improved and well liked from most accounts. Allows access to various databases, etc. > I have tried to get an explanation off of the NeXT Site, but I don't > think it is organized very well. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. Thanks in advance. > > disclaimer: as long as you remember that this is offered as an attempt to help, and not as the final word, because I don't know what I'm talking about sometimes, you'll be fine. that is assuming that any of this made any sense. I leave it to others more versed than myself to point out my errors. -rick
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NetInfo/Lookupd and OPENSTEP 4.1 cause endless Kernel Traps Date: 19 Mar 1997 17:59:06 GMT Organization: Napa Valley College Message-ID: <5gp9ha$l7d@wiley.napanet.net> It seems that OPENSTEP 4.1 does *not* like to be a NetInfo server. Ever since I've started trying to make my Pentium Pro 200 into one, it's been giving me tons of Kernel Traps. I disabled Power Management as someone suggested, but it hasn't helped much. I'm still seeing this thing crash a lot. I'm also having problems with doing lookups on one particular hostname here. I ran telnet through gdb, and this is what happened: ---------- Hacking on nvcc: gdb /usr/ucb/telnet GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.14 (NEXTSTEP 4.0 --target i386), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... Reading symbols from /usr/ucb/telnet...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) set args homnibus (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/ucb/telnet homnibus Dynamic Linkeditor at 0x12000000 offset 0x0 Executable at 0x2000 offset 0x0 /NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System at 0x5000000 offset 0x0 Reading symbols from loaded file...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x0 (protection failure). 0x50034cb in memmove () ---------- Is there any fix for OPENSTEP 4.1 that will stabilize it? I need to use this for the server! I'm trying to upgrade from an old 25mhz NeXT cube. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NFS problem Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:02:38 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33302A04.6BD6@wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am serving an NFS volume from my linux box to my NeXTstation. When the NeXT mounts the NFS volume it reports that there is "NO SPACE available on remote disk" in the file viewer. This is clearly not the case, when I run df on the linux box it reports that the shared directory is only at 2% capacity. Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on /dev/hda1 347375 169365 159800 51% / /dev/hda3 2398172 44840 2229348 2% /home The entry in m /etc/exports file looks like this: /home *.dutky.net(rw) I figure that the NeXT is seeing the exported NFS volume as a read-only drive but I don't know how to change it. Does anyone have any advice on this problem? I'm pretty new to NeXT and unix and there is still a lot that I don't know. - Jeff Dutky
From: haze@sailfish.exis.net (Jason Jenkins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: getting sendmail to send Date: 19 Mar 1997 22:08:47 GMT Organization: Exis Net Inc Message-ID: <5gpo5f$p3h@grouper.exis.net> I'm still strugling to get my new NeXTStation up and running as I'd like it. I am using GateKeeper and ppp2.2 to connect. It's working fine and I got OmniWeb to work, so I know the connection is good. I'd like to use Mail.app to do do email. I'm using PopOver to get the mail from my ISP, and recieving works fine. So here's the problem: I followed the help file in PopOver about setting up to send and modified sendmail.cf to include the ISP mail server. When I tell Mail.app to deliver the mail, the send data light on the modem flashes, so I know something is happening. The mail that I send though never get delivered. (ie, if I send something to myself, I never get it back.) Does anyone have any ideas/pointers. BTW I'm using NS3.3 and the included sendmail. Do I have to use a newer version of sendmail? Thanks, Jason
From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NetInfo/Lookupd and OPENSTEP 4.1 cause endless Kernel Traps Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:50:34 GMT Organization: Napa Valley College Message-ID: <5gpn3a$6o3@news.zocalo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It seems that OPENSTEP 4.1 does *not* like to be a NetInfo server. Ever since I've started trying to make my Pentium Pro 200 into one, it's been giving me tons of Kernel Traps. I disabled Power Management as someone suggested, but it hasn't helped much. I'm still seeing this thing crash a lot. I'm also having problems with doing lookups on one particular hostname here. I ran telnet through gdb, and this is what happened: ---------- Hacking on nvcc: gdb /usr/ucb/telnet GDB is free software and you are welcome to distribute copies of it under certain conditions; type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB; type "show warranty" for details. GDB 4.14 (NEXTSTEP 4.0 --target i386), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... Reading symbols from /usr/ucb/telnet...(no debugging symbols found)...done. (gdb) set args homnibus (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/ucb/telnet homnibus Dynamic Linkeditor at 0x12000000 offset 0x0 Executable at 0x2000 offset 0x0 /NextLibrary/Frameworks/System.framework/Versions/A/System at 0x5000000 offset 0x0 Reading symbols from loaded file...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Program generated(1): Memory access exception on address 0x0 (protection failure). 0x50034cb in memmove () ---------- Is there any fix for OPENSTEP 4.1 that will stabilize it? I need to use this for the server! I'm trying to upgrade from an old 25mhz NeXT cube. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Printing TO Black printer from NT References: <33271B19.167E@unidata.ucar.edu> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3330b7b8.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 20 Mar 97 04:06:16 GMT Glenn, Go to http://www.adobe.com/ and pick up a file named something like this: NeXT_400_dpi_Laser_Printer.ppd whick describes the Next printer. I'm sure there are instructions there on want to do with it. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely "Glenn P. Davis" <davis@unidata.ucar.edu> wrote: >Greetings: > >We have 68040 NeXT Cube with attached NeXT printer. >On the same net is a WINtel box running NT 4.0. >The NT machine can be configured to use UNIX lpd services >from another machine, such as the Cube. >However, I need to tell NT what kind of printer it is. >NeXT 400dpi is _not_ one of the choices listed. >(Why are we not surprised?)
From: buber@u.washington.edu (Blas Pedro Uberuaga) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with Printer selection... Date: 20 Mar 1997 00:09:40 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5gpv84$9ds@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: buber Keywords: print manager I'm having a problem with selecting a printer on my NeXTStation. I have several printers listed. When I highlight one besides the default, the print manager doesn't recognized that I've changed the selected printer. It highlights the new one in the list, but doesn't change the one it says is selected. This seems to be a problem only with my account and not in general, as if I log in as root, I can select different printers. Can someone help me figure out what is going on? Thanks. -- --------------------======================================------------------- Blas Pedro Uberuaga Telleria Zabala Scott Urionaguena Eiguren Idoeta Dean buber@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~buber/
From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: I need SoftPC for NS2.1 Date: 19 Mar 1997 19:17:26 GMT Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece Message-ID: <5gpe46$3c5@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> Dear fellows, I am out seeking for SoftPC, the one which could run on NS2.1. Remember it ? Well, for stability reasons I am not allowed to go to 3.0. So if onayone has it please let me know. Is there at least a demo to see how slow this thing is ? Thank you for your time. Ioannis
From: wonjlee@easyway.net (Won J. Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS: NeXT N-1000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 07:58:47 GMT Organization: c410 Message-ID: <5gqqmo$u2j@fiji.easyway.net> It is an 040 25MHz model with 12MB RAM. The optical drive works fine. I'll throw in two od cartridges. The 400dpi printer is almost new and the toner shouldn't need to be replaced for quite a while. 17" gs monitor, keyboard, and mousr are all in excellent conditions. It has NextStep 2.1 installed on it. A friend at work gave this to me recently, so I don't know much about Next machines. I think someone who knows the system could put this machine to a much better use. Could someone either let me know what the fair value for this machine is or make an offer? I'll accept the highest offer in a week. Won Lee
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Help with NeXT Nomenclature. Date: 20 Mar 1997 20:40:57 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5gs7cp$p3t@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <332CE9DF.60B1@earthlink.net> Basically, OPENSTEP isn't an opertaing system per se. That's why they tell you what OS it runs over: OPENSTEP for Mach, OPENSTEP for Solaris, OPENSTEP for NT. Of course OPENSTEP for Mach comes with Mach, so it's basically NEXTSTEP, but it's OPENSTEP compatible. OPENSTEPs are source compatible, NEXTSTEPs are source and binary compatible. On a semi-related note, years ago I posted a script that I used to use on nova to determine which version a NS binary was compiled under, and it capitalized/spaced "NEXTSTEP" right for each rev. It only went up to 3.1, I think. It's "NeXTSTEP 3.2", "NEXTSTEP 3.3", and "OPENSTEP for Mach 4.x" if you're keeping score at home. :-) ab
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:00:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> Can someone tell me if there is a problem with using 2 16MB 60ns non-parity SIMMS side by side 2 70ns 8MB non-parity SIMMs in my NeXT Turbo? Does it have to be 70ns across the board? Or is there a compatibility issue with 60 vs 70 ns SIMMs? E-mail responses, please. Thanks. John
From: jnv@gte.net (Jim Vestal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Raleigh, NC NeXT Help Requested Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 02:15:45 -0500 Organization: GTE Intelligent Network Services, GTE INS Message-ID: <jnv-ya02408000R2103970215450001@news.gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, Not sure if this is the right group to pose this question to, but I'm looking for someone who might be willing to spend an hour or two talking about NeXT, answering questions and doing a brief demo for a Mac user group that meets in Research Triangle Park, NC. Many of our members have a lot of questions that I think might be answered if they had an opportunity to see exactly what NeXT is. If you personally might be able to do this, or if you know of someone who might, or know of a NeXT user group nearby, I sure would appreciate a quick email to let me know. Many thanks, Jim Vestal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 21 Mar 97 07:18:18 GMT In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >would not mount. > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >on how to mount the OD? > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >the crash. > >Thanks, > >Bill Anderson NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical path which can be fixed). What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't show up? What messages? david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: stefan@ping.at (Stefan Schneider) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: SSS March Quiz - last call + 3 more hints ! Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:02:33 GMT Organization: Customer of PING - Personal InterNet Gate Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5gsq7p$7d4@peng.ping.at> Dear NEXTSTEP community, this is the last call for the SSS March quiz on http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/quiz.html If you haven't participated yet, hurry! Deadline is April 1. ATTENTION: Due to the low number of correct answers in both of the two quiz categories, THE MARCH QUIZ IS YOUR BEST CHANCE EVER to win a free HelpViewer or LatinByrd license. And here's even THREE MORE HINTS: 1) I'm serious about the "30 seconds" hint given on the quiz page. You won't need to stress your brains much - just make use of one particular application. Luckily, when you download and display the quiz page, that particular app is already the active one. 2) In case you're on the right way, but the results still yield nothing, then take a look at the 6th character: it's a capital! You might want to adapt how you try to find an answer... 3) If you succeed in getting the answer to the first question, then the answer to the second question should be fairly easy. Just keep in mind that SSS is a SOHO. Have fun, - Stefan -- Stefan Schneider Software Dipl.Ing. Stefan Schneider Lerchenfelder St. 85/6 A-1070 Vienna, Austria, Europe voice/fax: +43-1-523-5834 e-mail: stefan@ping.at (NeXTMail preferred, MIME welcome) web: http://www.ping.at/members/stefan/
From: smolny@pankow.mpiib-berlin.mpg.de (Bertram Smolny) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Q: Hylafax ? Date: 21 Mar 1997 13:41:36 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5gu36g$p8u$3@gwdu19.gwdg.de> -- Hi, is there somebody who compiled "hylafax" for NS 3.3 ? please send e-mail regards >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bertram Smolny Fon: ++49 30/2802-6154 MPI f. Infektionsbiologie Fax: ++49 30/2802-6406 Monbijoustr.2 D-10117 Berlin e-mail: smolny@mpiib-berlin.mpg.de >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: 21 Mar 1997 17:41:35 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5guh8f$h5s@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Cc: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca In <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill wrote: > In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, > Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: > >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > >would not mount. > > > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > >on how to mount the OD? > > > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > >the crash. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Bill Anderson > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > > It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done > including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets > weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical > path which can be fixed). > > What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't > show up? What messages? > > david > I would try and clean it. Mine died on my several times but only required a little cleaning to get up and running again. Search NEXTAnswers for directions on how to clean the OD. Its a little involved though... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I need software support help in DC Date: 23 Mar 1997 22:09:28 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Distribution: us Message-ID: <jcr.859183587@idiom.com> References: <3326B204.2CD0@mail.house.gov> <5h3lkk$s90@atlas.vcu.edu> s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) writes: >Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> writes: >>I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to >>fix a few bugs that have accumulated: >Has no one responded? I've seen your posts for a little while >now. Where as all the expertise in D.C. gone? Anyone from the old >WaNUG group around? Jeez... The NeXT expertise in DC has fled to greener pastures. I tried to go to work with Fannie Mae several years ago, and I was only asking for about $75K back then. They about choked when I told then that they were competing with Wall Street gigs that start at $100/hr. DC's my home town, and I would have stayed if people there didn't keep thinking that they could hire NeXT experts for COBOL rates. -jcr
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need help getting NeXT on the Internet... Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:42:01 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2403971443430001@i548.oro.net> I am new to using my NeXT Turbo Cube and would like to get the system connected to the internet. Are there any COMMERCIAL Internet Kits for the NeXT that are real user friendly?? I have d/led with my MAC and moved the software to my NeXT the PPP2.2 and GateKeeper softwares but am having problems getting connected. The PPP 2.2 seems to be loaded fine as I do get the PPP info to show up at BOOT time but I may just not be dialing and connecting correctly. Using GateKeeper, I can dial my ISP and my Terminal.APP pops up so I can enter my name and password to get logged onto my ISP. Once I am logged on and my ISP says I am connected, per my GateKeeper I supposed to get ASCII garbage on the screen and at that point click the pppd switch on so I can get logged in under PPP. I never get this ASCII garbage. I just get a note I am connected to my ISP. Am I lacking something in GateKeeper or some other area. I have never in PPP 2.2 or GateKeeper entered my ISP domain info, etc... as I had to do with my Mac so maybe this is what I am lacking but where do I enter this info. or... I will buy a commerical package that is easier for this newbie. Any suggestions. Thanks Tom
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: 24 Mar 97 13:23:42 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar24132342@howard.one.net> References: <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu> In-reply-to: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu's message of 17 Mar 1997 15:50:06 GMT In article <5gjp7e$dkc@agate.berkeley.edu>, john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) writes: I'd like to add more memory and a larger hard drive to my system. It's a NeXT Turbo (slab). 1) What SCSI hard drives are QUIET, fast, and reliable in the 1.0 to 2.0 GB range? Is there a problem with putting a drive of this size in a 'slab' as far as heat is concerned? Where's a good place to buy one? I like Seagate Hawks. I've got older one (ST31230N, 1Gig), and it just makes this little thudding noise when seeking, none of those cool high-pitched annoyances (shudder). I'd _highly_ recommend not spending too much much for a drive you're putting in a NeXT system, unless you intend to salvage the drive for something else at some point. NeXT's hardware is much outdated in SCSI terms (after all, it's like five computer generations old!). Most any drive will work, but you'll be wasting much of the potential if you get a speed demon. Most any current drive will be able to outrun your NeXT's SCSI subsystem. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: formatting and copying hard drives Date: 22 Mar 1997 18:10:29 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5h17al$hnq@agate.berkeley.edu> I've been pestering everyone here lately with questions relating to adding memory and a larger hard drive for my NeXT Turbo. The answers I've received have been _extremely_ helpful and much appreciated. At this point, I'm 'rounding third' and 'headed for home.' One more question, though, that relates to logistics. When I buy a new hard drive to replace the one in my Slab, how do I format it and then copy the files on the old drive to the new one? I do have an external drive that's connected to the computer if that will help solve things. Please respond by e-mail. As usual, thanks. John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Message-ID: <E7GK9v.ou@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:49:07 GMT In article <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote: >In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, >Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: >>The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >>the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >>remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >>have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >>(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >>would not mount. >> >>Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >>wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >>on how to mount the OD? >> >>Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >>the crash. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Bill Anderson > >NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > >It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done >including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets >weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical >path which can be fixed). > >What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't >show up? What messages? > Yes, you can either open the ROM montor and watch the booting message, or examine file /usr/adm/message to see if the OD drive is still alive and recognized. If it does, then mount it manually, something like "/etc/mount /dev/od1(a?) /mnt1...." If it does not show up when booting, you may run out of luck. My OD drive still works though.
From: alcmaeon@one.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT and AT&T Worldnet Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:39:43 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5h7acv$n1v@news.one.net> I have been trying to get logged on to AT&T WorldNet from the Cube. I am logged on to another ISP that I have with no trouble, but when I try to get on WorldNet, I get through the UserName and Password stages, but then I get a message something to the effect that: "the serial connection is not 8-bit clean, 0 appears at position 7" Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Mitch
From: marcel@sysyem.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: New Hard Drive and More Memory for NeXT Turbo Date: 25 Mar 1997 03:21:50 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h7gce$1q5$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <SHESS.97Mar24132342@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Mar24132342@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > I like Seagate Hawks. I've got older one (ST31230N, 1Gig), and it > just makes this little thudding noise when seeking, none of those cool > high-pitched annoyances (shudder). I got one myself, it's a decent drive. I just wish my cube's case wasn't such a perfect resonator... :-( > I'd _highly_ recommend not spending too much much for a drive you're > putting in a NeXT system, unless you intend to salvage the drive for > something else at some point. NeXT's hardware is much outdated in > SCSI terms (after all, it's like five computer generations old!). > Most any drive will work, but you'll be wasting much of the potential > if you get a speed demon. Most any current drive will be able to > outrun your NeXT's SCSI subsystem. This is true in general, but the NeXT SCSI is actually a bit faster than most people expect, certainly faster than I expected. My Fujitsu was running at around 700K/s file system throughput, my Hawk does up to 2.5MB/s real-life throughput on medium-large files. Marcel
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From: jwdb@fygir.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: [Q] mounting floppy Date: 25 Mar 1997 09:33:01 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Sender: fygir@194.229.196.70 Message-ID: <5h864d$b7u$1@news1.xs4all.nl> After trying to check a damaged floppy with fsck, the Workspace's "Disk->Check for Disks" menu has stopped working (with any floppy). Does anybody know a reason for this? And maybe a way to restore the proper behaviour? (Apart from rebooting, which solves just about anything.) Mounting the floppy by hand, with the 'mount' command, works, but the floppy can't be written to, even though the notch on the disk is in the right position, the mount option is 'rw' and the Worksapce indicates the amount of free space left on the floppy. Oh, well, there are worse things, but if anybody can explain I'd very much appreciate it. Chao, Jan-Willem -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn - F Y G I R logistic information systems
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <608858488427@digifix.com> Date: 23 Mar 1997 05:00:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NFS problem Date: 23 Mar 1997 11:33:26 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h3m0m$4nkc@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <33302A04.6BD6@wam.umd.edu> "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> writes: >I am serving an NFS volume from my linux box to my NeXTstation. >When the NeXT mounts the NFS volume it reports that there is >"NO SPACE available on remote disk" in the file viewer. This >is clearly not the case, when I run df on the linux box it >reports that the shared directory is only at 2% capacity. >Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on >/dev/hda1 347375 169365 159800 51% / >/dev/hda3 2398172 44840 2229348 2% /home ^^^^^^^ Looks like the 2gb volume limit to me. NEXTSTEP version 3.3 and later support NFS mounted volumes larger than 2gb, but older versions have problems with it. A common workaround (besides upgrading) is to fill the volume up with stuff so that the free space is less than 2gb. Apple/NeXT *really* has to fix the 2gb limitation - it's embarrassing. Of course, adding in journaling and ... well there's another thread discussing this. ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: Annard Brouwer <annard@neptune.esystem.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: 21 Mar 1997 22:52:55 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <5gv3g7$dbs@digdug.pswtech.com> References: d562180a488d041f3977506f580f4bdf - <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >If you have partitions of LESS than 2.0 gig then NS can recognize >the size of it. >If it is 2.0 or over, then you won't get NS to recognize it. > Nope! This is only true on Intel systems were your boot drive is >2GB. However if you make that drive a secondary one, low-level format it with 1K sector size (this however cannot be done using sdformat on OpenStep/Mach using white hardware) than you can fool the `disk' program to create one 4GB partition. You have to create a custom disktab entry however. So although not an easy solution, it can be done. I did it, more than once. On different drives/systems. >Someone also said recently that NS won't allow more than one NS >partition per drive. > Nonsense. I saw the `disk' program create 3 partitions on a 4GB diskdrive without a problem (OpenStep/Mach4.1). Need more info, contact me. Annard -- Annard Brouwer PSW Technologies, Inc. OPENSTEP software engineer (consultant) Needless to say everything I said is mine, mine ALL mine!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc From: fmlazar@interactive.net (Frank Lazar) Subject: Should I run 4.x on Black? Organization: AMUSE-New York Amiga Users Group Message-ID: <fmlazar-2303971136140001@host043.jerseycity.interactive.net> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 16:36:14 GMT Right now, I have a recently purchased Color Turbo Slab purring on 3.3. Is upgrading to OpenStep 4.1 or whatever a good move for me? It's got 80 megs of ram and a 2 gig hard disk. (which for some reason the NeXT OS is only seeing 1 gig of after a generic install.) Will I be slower, faster, or are there other type issues besides speed. The machine is intended for eithe mailserver or Apacheserver. (I haven't decided which yet, may be getting anothe for Mtech as the two should probably be on different machines even for the low-voloume use I intend.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ | | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | | \\__// \\ | | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | | \\ | | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] mounting floppy Date: 26 Mar 1997 02:09:05 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5ha0g1$48n@news.next.com> References: <5h864d$b7u$1@news1.xs4all.nl> Jan-Willem de Bruijn writes > > After trying to check a damaged floppy with fsck, the Workspace's > "Disk->Check for Disks" menu has stopped working (with any floppy). > Does anybody know a reason for this? And maybe a way to restore the > proper behaviour? > (Apart from rebooting, which solves just about anything.) The command "disk -e /dev/rfd0a" (as root) will sometimes reset the floppy driver and Workspace when they get confused. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:50:05 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5g9b7t$bbu@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> In article <199703121550.KAA08911@kira.peak.org> writes: > Someone also said recently that NS won't allow more than one NS > partition per drive. This is incorrect. I've created multiple NS partitions on drives on many occasions. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I need software support help in DC Date: 23 Mar 1997 11:27:00 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: us Message-ID: <5h3lkk$s90@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <3326B204.2CD0@mail.house.gov> Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> writes: >I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to >fix a few bugs that have accumulated: Has no one responded? I've seen your posts for a little while now. Where as all the expertise in D.C. gone? Anyone from the old WaNUG group around? Jeez... BTW, a few years ago I probably would have responded, but now I'm in Richmond, VA and the 4 hour round trip plus the complete lack of that amount of free time means it's infeasible for me. Maybe if you advertise the amount/hour you're willing to pay... :-)
From: sieg@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NFS problem Date: 26 Mar 1997 08:47:11 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hanqf$1uh@arcadia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5h3m0m$4nkc@atlas.vcu.edu> Keywords: nfs 2GB Weiyuan W Chin writes > "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> writes: > > >I am serving an NFS volume from my linux box to my NeXTstation. > > >When the NeXT mounts the NFS volume it reports that there is > >"NO SPACE available on remote disk" in the file viewer. This > >is clearly not the case, when I run df on the linux box it > >reports that the shared directory is only at 2% capacity. > > >Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on > >/dev/hda1 347375 169365 159800 51% / > >/dev/hda3 2398172 44840 2229348 2% /home > ^^^^^^^ > > Looks like the 2gb volume limit to me. NEXTSTEP version 3.3 > and later support NFS mounted volumes larger than 2gb, but older > versions have problems with it. A common workaround (besides > upgrading) is to fill the volume up with stuff so that the free > space is less than 2gb. No. I do not know what the problem is, but we have large Disks over nfs mounted (some single partitions over 4.5 GB!). So over nfs there is no such limit! E.g. (df on the next, file server is solaris) hera:/export/home 4226984 3499008 305286 92% /private/Net/hera/export/home > Apple/NeXT *really* has to fix the 2gb limitation - it's embarrassing. > Of course, adding in journaling and ... well there's another > thread discussing this. Yes for file-servers. > > ..Bill Chin > s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu -- Arne Sieg, StuMi-Sysadmin-PST (E10, E3, E0.6) URL: http://www.pst.informatik.uni-muenchen.de/~sieg/
From: jwdb@fygir.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: [Q] mounting floppy Date: 26 Mar 1997 09:08:18 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Sender: fygir@194.229.196.70 Message-ID: <5hap22$g3n$1@news1.xs4all.nl> References: <5h864d$b7u$1@news1.xs4all.nl> <5ha0g1$48n@news.next.com> MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) wrote: >Jan-Willem de Bruijn writes >> >> After trying to check a damaged floppy with fsck, the Workspace's >> "Disk->Check for Disks" menu has stopped working (with any floppy). >> Does anybody know a reason for this? And maybe a way to restore the >> proper behaviour? >> (Apart from rebooting, which solves just about anything.) > >The command "disk -e /dev/rfd0a" (as root) will sometimes reset the floppy >driver and Workspace when they get confused. Indeed, it does! I thought I had tried that, but I guess not as root. Thanks. That saved me from having to reboot our NetInfo master / NFS server. -- Jan-Willem de Bruijn - F Y G I R logistic information systems
From: "Erik D. Schminke" <edschminke@willmar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hacking a NeXT Mach System Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:06:05 GMT Organization: MEANS Message-ID: <01bc37bc$a9a0d380$ca3a0ace@schminke.willmar.com> I would like some questions answered by any hackers out there willing to help. My school runs a NeXT Mach system and someone hacked into it using one of the so called "default accounts". Please take a look at what was done. The website is at http://willmar.k12.cfa.org/. I expect that this page will be take down and returned to what it was before, as soon as it is discovered, so I made a copy of the page and put it at http://www.willmar.com/~schminke/willmar/. Please check one of these pages and then explain how to this was do to me via e-mail. My address is edschminke@willmar.com Thank you, -- Erik Schminke (edschminke@willmar.com)
From: ehutch@hypnos.norden1.com (E. Hutchinson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,misc.jobs.offered,chi.jobs,mi.jobs, Subject: NEXT/Career Position/ILL Date: 24 Mar 1997 02:19:22 GMT Organization: Norden 1 Communications Message-ID: <5h4oba$rm1@tofu.alt.net> Programmer/analyst/developer NEXT-------------------------Commercial experience Objective C------------------Commercial experience Career Position--------------Full benefits++ Relocation-------------------Company assistance Area-------------------------Greater Chicago Area To Be Considered-------------Fax resume or mail a hard copy. -- ehutch@norden1.com (419) 893-6367 [fax] Omni Search (419) 893-6334 [voice] 1310 Craig Maumee, Ohio 43537
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Printing software Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 23:01:08 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3335FC84.6950@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What software is available that will allow OPENSTEP to print to non-Postscript printers? --gh
From: Frank Lacy<LacyEnt@aol.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: The Personal Electronic Picture Album Date: 26 Mar 1997 01:59:00 GMT Organization: The Why? Network Message-ID: <5h9vt4$l5s$187@moon> Organisation: Lacy Enterprises
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From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: want to read mail in Chinese and Japanese Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 01:03:15 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403970103160001@39.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <3325B6BE.167E@focus.berkeley.edu> > > I am using NeXT Electronic Mail Reader to read e-mail. > Is it possible to read the mails in Chinese (GB or Big5) or Japanese? > and how? > Well, if you don't have easy access to a university that has Chinese or Japanese language classes, try contacting Berlitz: www.berlitz.com Mitch
From: mkretsch@ultranet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cable modem (Continental Cable / Boston) and NeXT Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:34:12 GMT Organization: UltraNet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5hc894$ea2$1@decius.ultra.net> Dear fellow NeXTers in the Boston area, I recently inquired with Cotinental Cable about their new high speed cable modem setups. A person of rather little knowledge told me on the phone that "we do not support UNIX, get Windooze". Has anybody managed to get CC's cable modems (with their dynamic IPs) to work on a machine running NEXTSTEP (I have a TurboColor at home and NS Intel 3.3 at work) ? Also, is there still a Boston NeXT user group ? Anybody in Biotech/Biochemistry using NEXTSTEP ? I would greatly appreciate any input on this. Thanks, Matthias Kretschmer mkretsch@ultranet.com
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ghostscript Print Filter Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 17:41:43 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <3339A627.7EBA@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install GSPrint Filter so that I can print to a non-Postscript printer. After installing the GSFilter and GSsetup packages, the instructions say to run the provided GSFilter.postinstall script. However there is no postinstall script anywhere. Has anyone else run accross this? How can this be resolved? --Greg
From: heller@altoetting.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: WebPhone??? Date: 26 Mar 1997 21:28:04 GMT Organization: Camelot Online Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hc4d4$93l@lancelot.camelot.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, a friend of mine (who is in the USA while I am in Germany) wants to try WebPhone to communicate with me. Now WebPhone is a MicroSchrott product and totally unacceptable for a NeXTy like me. So the question: is there anything similar or compatible for a NeXT like WebPhone for the Windoze world? Thanks for any answers! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@altoetting.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-8671-881665 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Muehldorfer Str. 72, 84503 Altoetting, GERMANY
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NFS problem !SOLVED! Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:04:22 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5hc6h6$fn0$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <33397501.5112@wam.umd.edu> <5hc4dt$gqo@crcnis3.unl.edu> Cc: rdieter@math.unl.edu In <5hc4dt$gqo@crcnis3.unl.edu> Rex Dieter wrote: > In article <33397501.5112@wam.umd.edu> "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> > writes: > > Other people have said that the 2GB limit should not be an issue > > over NFS but I think, from empirical results, that this is not the > >... > > Maybe this restriction was fixed in a > > later version of NS than what I am using (I'm still on NS 3.0). > > I know definitively that this problem HAS BEEN fixed as of NS 3.3. > Yes, but this is in fact a workspace problem. If you copy something onto the mounted filesystem using 'cp' in a shell everything is working fine. The problem seems to be connected to the 2 MByte size because at this size the workspace 'free space on filesystem' display jumps back to zero. (It will happen again at 4, 6, 8,... GByte)... Workspace tries to be smart and won't let you copy onto the 'full' filesystem. I *think* I remember I was able to get rid of the bug by using the gnu version of 'df' instead of the NeXT supplied one. However this was in a galaxy far far away and my memory is prone to segment violations these days. Today I have only smaller volumes to mount here in my local network. But maybe this works for you... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preview.app - Sending delayed facsimiles Date: 26 Mar 1997 23:37:22 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5hcbvi$qbh@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5h8rik$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Cc: m_mocker@amg.de. In <5h8rik$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Martin Mocker wrote: > Hi NeXTFolks, > > I've got a question about the Fax-Panel in the Preview.app: > It isn't possible to send a fax LATER (I don't know the exact > label of the button, because I am using the German edition of NEXTSTEP) in > the Fax-Panel in Preview.app (the curious thing about this is, that it works > in any other App, but not in Preview...) > > Does anyone know a workaround, a unix-tool or something else to make Preview > send a fax at a LATER point of time ?? > > Thanks a lot, > > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) > wierd... I just did a cmd-p on your post, clicked the Preview button, hit fax and the fax panel from within Preview has five buttons across the bottom: Modem...; Preview; Fax Later...; Cancel; Fax Now Fax Later... the one you want maybe you didn't go far enough into the fax prcedure? I've never used the German version, are the panels different, other than the labels? -rick
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: EZ-Flyer as a backup on a NeXTCube? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:41:37 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-2603971841370001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> To replace a dead optical drive on my NeXTCube (68040, 16mb, 400mb,3.2), I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Would the formatting instructions be the same as with a Zip drive? Thanks, Bill Anderson
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:36:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-2603971836070001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) wrote: > The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > would not mount. > > Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > on how to mount the OD? > > Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > the crash. > > Thanks, > > Bill Anderson The optical drive has been cleaned and checked out by an expert, but still does not mount. So it looks as if it is dead. I would like to thank everyone for their responses. Also, I have a new question: To replace the optical drive, I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Thanks, Bill Anderson
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cable modem (Continental Cable / Boston) and NeXT Date: 27 Mar 1997 02:08:02 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5hckq3$g91@news.next.com> References: <5hc894$ea2$1@decius.ultra.net> In article <5hc894$ea2$1@decius.ultra.net> mkretsch@ultranet.com writes: > I recently inquired with Cotinental Cable about their new high speed cable > modem setups. A person of rather little knowledge told me on the phone > that "we do not support UNIX, get Windooze". > > Has anybody managed to get CC's cable modems (with their dynamic IPs) to > work on a machine running NEXTSTEP (I have a TurboColor at home and NS > Intel 3.3 at work) ? Actually, this is going to be fairly difficult. A friend of mine works for Continental, actually manages the infrastructure connecting their cable plant to their Internet connection. Anyway, their cable-side IP setup uses DHCP to assign IP addresses on the fly to the set-top boxe connections. There's no way to make NextStep act like a DHCP client without some serious hacking. You'd have to port a DHCP client program, then figure out a way to make it reset the IP address of the network port and reinitialize. All without screwing up already running processes. What you might do is ask if they can assign you a static IP address. They can do that to a limited degree, but they might charge extra. joe
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: JAZ Drive Probs on NeXT Cube? Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 19:46:01 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970327194511.2321C-100000@kira> References: <5hep5e$8uo$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Seamus Dunne <dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5hep5e$8uo$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Have you read the NeXTanswers on this subject? They are linked to my web page under 'other sites' and then 'NeXTAnswers and Info' TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Preview.app - Sending delayed facsimiles Date: 25 Mar 1997 15:39:00 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5h8rik$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Hi NeXTFolks, I've got a question about the Fax-Panel in the Preview.app: It isn't possible to send a fax LATER (I don't know the exact label of the button, because I am using the German edition of NEXTSTEP) in the Fax-Panel in Preview.app (the curious thing about this is, that it works in any other App, but not in Preview...) Does anyone know a workaround, a unix-tool or something else to make Preview send a fax at a LATER point of time ?? Thanks a lot, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
From: "Network User" <melissab@shamu.mtn.ncahec.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: OO System Development Date: 28 Mar 1997 17:45:53 GMT Organization: MAHEC Message-ID: <01bc3b9f$87e4f820$5d0356c6@MELISSAB.SHAMU.MTN.NCAHEC.ORG> Hello! I am a student who is trying to locate an organization developing an object oriented system and is willing to be interviewed for a research paper. Not just using an OO product but developing an OO system. The interview is not painful and non-intrusive and will cover topics such as: info about the organization and contact person; length of time organization has been developing OO systems; how the organization is using OO technology; reasons for adopting OO technology; are you achieving a good reuse rate?; challenges encountered; plans for OO technology in the future and any other comments you would like to contribute. This interview can be conducted via email or phone, whichever is convenient, at my expense. Any help is GRATEFULLY appreciated! Melissa Boring
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NFS problem !SOLVED! Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:12:29 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33397501.5112@wam.umd.edu> References: <33302A04.6BD6@wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote: > > I am serving an NFS volume from my linux box to my NeXTstation. > > When the NeXT mounts the NFS volume it reports that there is > "NO SPACE available on remote disk" in the file viewer. This > is clearly not the case, when I run df on the linux box it > reports that the shared directory is only at 2% capacity. > > Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on > /dev/hda1 347375 169365 159800 51% / > /dev/hda3 2398172 44840 2229348 2% /home > > The entry in m /etc/exports file looks like this: > > /home *.dutky.net(rw) > > I figure that the NeXT is seeing the exported NFS volume as a > read-only drive but I don't know how to change it. > > Does anyone have any advice on this problem? I'm pretty new to > NeXT and unix and there is still a lot that I don't know. > > - Jeff Dutky Thanks to everyone who responded to my post. Several people suggested that I had run into the NS 2GB limit and gave some ungracefull work- arounds that boiled down to "Fill up the shard drive with stuff until there is less than 2GB free." This is, in fact, what I ended up doing and, sure enough, when the free space fell below 2GB the NeXT started to correctly identify the amount of free space on the drive. Since I intended to start using the drive as a shared file repository for all my systems (1 PowerMac, 1 Sun3/60, 1 IBM PS/2, and the NeXT) this has worked out to be a very reasonable solution. Other people have said that the 2GB limit should not be an issue over NFS but I think, from empirical results, that this is not the case. I doubt that is was pure coincidence that the NeXT stopped reporting NO SPACE at the same instant that the free space on the linux drive fell below 2GB. Maybe this restriction was fixed in a later version of NS than what I am using (I'm still on NS 3.0). Anyhow, thanks again. - Jeff Dutky
From: gary-nospam-@screaming.org (Gary W. Longsine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NetInfo/Lookupd and OPENSTEP 4.1 cause endless Kernel Traps Date: 28 Mar 1997 23:18:34 GMT Organization: Save the Skeet Foundation Message-ID: <5hhjka$fiv$1@news.platinum.com> References: <5gpn3a$6o3@news.zocalo.net> <5grg5o$jg0@crcnis3.unl.edu> <E7G5H3.1nG@flop.schwaben.de> <5hei73$c80@news.zocalo.net> Cc: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us In <5hei73$c80@news.zocalo.net> it appeared that Chris Osborn wrote: > In article <E7G5H3.1nG@flop.schwaben.de>, > Holger Hoffstaette <hhoff@schwaben.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > >To the original poster: if you really can't get anything going > >without frequent panics, wipe out NI completely, restore from > >/usr/template/client/etc/netinfo and start again. > > I did that quite a few times before ever posting that I was having > problems. I did get a new lookupd from someone at NeXT, but I'm > *still* having problems. > > Now after about 24 hours or so, lookups start to get *very* > slow. It'll take forever to do a lookup on the server for one of the > computers that is in my domain, but is *not* in NetInfo. After about > 36 hours or so, the server hangs *so severely* that I cannot restart > it any other way than to push reset. Can't get into the NMI, nothing. > > So far it looks like there are serious problems with using 4.1 as a > NetInfo server. As far as I can tell, lookupd on OpenStep 4.1 is marginally functional. I can't get it to work properly with NIS on either NeXT or Intel. (On Intel, I can run the NS3.3 lookupd, and everything that I use -- NIS & DNS -- works fine. On NeXT hardware, this swapout does not work.) The symptom you describe is classic binary-has-a-serious-defect material. You *might* talk to NeXT - maybe there is another update after the one you got. watch the vsize on your lookupd... it may have a leak and be growing so badly that it fills your VM... mine's been up for 5 days, and is less than 2MB VSIZE, and is 400k RSIZE. (I'm running the NS3.3patcha lookupd on an OPENSTEP 4.1/intel system). PID USERNAME STATE PRI NICE THR VSIZE RSIZE %MEM %CPU TIME COMMAND 122 root SW 10 0 1 1808K 400K 0.61 0.00 0:02 lookupd If the lookupd you have is functional (i.e. if it provides the services you need until it causes the machine to lock up) you can set a cron job to kill and restart lookupd every night or something like that. If you find that lookupd is growing for you, do some checking to see if a "kill -1" will cause it to free the bogusly claimed memory (that would be nice... but don't hold your breath) If not, you'll need to spank harder. dinobert # uptime 5:05pm up 5 days, 5:30, 3 users, load average: 1.72, 1.77, 1.79 /gary -- Gary W. Longsine, Systems Engineer | ____/| OpenStep, MachOS, PLATINUM Technologies, Inc. | \ o.O| Objective-C: l_o_n_gsine@platinum.com (NeXTmail | =(_)= (Can i have his spam?) & MIME) |. U Elegance is Relevant.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Preview.app - Sending delayed facsimiles Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:24:26 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970326191435.22579B-100000@kira> References: <5h8rik$4b9@hagen.amg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Martin Mocker <m_mocker@amg.de.> In-Reply-To: <5h8rik$4b9@hagen.amg.de> The 'fax later' (that is what it is called in English) button only becomes an option if I select a phone number entry in the fax panel. It is grey until I do that (as is the regular 'fax now'). Are you saying that you cannot get 'fax later' to work even when you have selected a number? TjL
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Micropolis "Aries" Drive for NeXT Turbo? Date: 27 Mar 1997 20:29:12 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5helao$ogk@agate.berkeley.edu> Anyone know if a Micropolis Model 4421 Fast SCSI-2 Interface 2147MB 9ms 5400rpm 3.5" "low-profile" disk drive will work well in my NeXT Turbo Slab? Or should I forget about it? E-mail me if you have experience and/or insight with this. Thanks. John
From: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Another Screen Shot Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 20:04:40 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <333DBC28.6BC3@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: jabi Hello: I put up yet another OPENSTEP for Windows NT Screen shot showing the following applications: 1. IconDock (Application Launcher shareware) by Tony Chow 2. Create (Drawing Program) by Stone Design 3. ProjectBuilder (Software Development tool) by NeXT 4. InterfaceBuilder (Visual Interface Builder) by NeXT 5. Preview (Postscript and EPS previewer) You can find it at: http://aquarius.arch.buffalo.edu/openstep.html -- w a s s i m j a b i :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Dept. of Architecture http://libra.arch.buffalo.edu/www/ University at Buffalo EMail: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu 3435 Main St. - Hayes Tel: +1 (716) 829-3483 Buffalo, NY 14214 USA Fax: +1 (716) 829-3256
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Date: 30 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Another Screen Shot Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 01:00:51 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <333E0F78.7172@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <333DBC28.6BC3@arch.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: wjabi@arch.buffalo.edu jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu wrote: I put up yet another OPENSTEP for Windows NT > Screen shot showing the following applications: > > 1. IconDock (Application Launcher shareware) by Tony Chow > 2. Create (Drawing Program) by Stone Design > 3. ProjectBuilder (Software Development tool) by NeXT > 4. InterfaceBuilder (Visual Interface Builder) by NeXT > 5. Preview (Postscript and EPS previewer) > > You can find it at: > > http://aquarius.arch.buffalo.edu/openstep.html Cool! Please post more! ALso, does BSD Lite come with OPENSTEP for NT as it does for WEBOBJECTS for NT? Thanks -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11 MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D---Instructional Technology Services---Illinois State University "I first saw NeXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away." - Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc. CEO ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED REPRESENT MYSELF ONLY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: JAZ Drive Probs on NeXT Cube? References: <5hep5e$8uo$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <333f1a0c.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 31 Mar 97 01:57:32 GMT dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca (Seamus Dunne) wrote: >HI >I'd like to put a Jaz drive as a peripheral device on my venerable NeXT 68040 Cube. > >Anyone know how to do it? I've received conflicting reports: format, do... Go see these two Next answers: 2154_Iomega_Jaz_Drive_disktab.rtf http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2154.htmld/2154.html 2155_Iomega_Jaz_Drive_Package_Overview.rtf http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2155.htmld/2155.html
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: cable modem (Continental Cable / Boston) and NeXT Date: 29 Mar 97 00:23:48 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar29002348@slave.one.net> References: <5hc894$ea2$1@decius.ultra.net> <5hckq3$g91@news.next.com> In-reply-to: jkeenan@next.com's message of 27 Mar 1997 02:08:02 GMT In article <5hckq3$g91@news.next.com>, jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) writes: In article <5hc894$ea2$1@decius.ultra.net>, mkretsch@ultranet.com writes: > I recently inquired with Cotinental Cable about their new high > speed cable modem setups. A person of rather little knowledge > told me on the phone that "we do not support UNIX, get Windooze". > > Has anybody managed to get CC's cable modems (with their dynamic > IPs) to work on a machine running NEXTSTEP (I have a TurboColor > at home and NS Intel 3.3 at work) ? Actually, this is going to be fairly difficult. A friend of mine works for Continental, actually manages the infrastructure connecting their cable plant to their Internet connection. Anyway, their cable-side IP setup uses DHCP to assign IP addresses on the fly to the set-top boxe connections. There's no way to make NextStep act like a DHCP client without some serious hacking. You'd have to port a DHCP client program, then figure out a way to make it reset the IP address of the network port and reinitialize. All without screwing up already running processes. I recently (w/in 24 hours) finished setting up a Linux box to do IP-Masquerading for my private network. I seem to recall seeing something about making Linux do DHCP. That combination would allow you to do it somewhat close to "right", albeit at some slight pocketbook expense for a Linux box plus some fairly _extreme_ brainsweat. Hey, it's a learning experience ... Actually, it may be worse than that. Last I heard, many people looking into this were finding that the cableco's are using a non-standard DHCP, and you use their software or you don't use their system. Not sure if this is part of the long-term plan, or if it's just a matter of not wanting to deal with oddballs during testing. Personally, I went with ISDN because I got sick of waiting for the various cableco's and telco's to quit attempting to paper the entire planet with press releases and start _doing_ something. I'd love to have IDSL, though, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NFS problem !SOLVED! Date: 29 Mar 97 00:27:33 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar29002733@slave.one.net> References: <33302A04.6BD6@wam.umd.edu> <33397501.5112@wam.umd.edu> In-reply-to: "Jeffrey S. Dutky"'s message of Wed, 26 Mar 1997 14:12:29 -0500 In article <33397501.5112@wam.umd.edu>, "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> writes: Other people have said that the 2GB limit should not be an issue over NFS but I think, from empirical results, that this is not the case. I doubt that is was pure coincidence that the NeXT stopped reporting NO SPACE at the same instant that the free space on the linux drive fell below 2GB. Maybe this restriction was fixed in a later version of NS than what I am using (I'm still on NS 3.0). It might just be an oddity in the calculation Workspace uses to figure out if there's no space. Did you try doing df from a shell window? That may (or may not) show different results. When it said "no space", did you try creating files? I'd expect it to continue to work, even if Workspace is confused. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: hnle@lazrus.cca.rockwell.com (Hai N. Le) Newsgroups: comp.fonts,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: looking for NeXTstep font utilities Date: 31 Mar 1997 16:31:15 GMT Organization: Rockwell Avionics - Collins, Cedar Rapids, IA Message-ID: <5hoosj$ho2@castor.cca.rockwell.com> Originator: hnle@porter.cca.rockwell.com I'm looking for a software called T1utils-1.1 . According to the comp.fonts FAQ web page, this is a collection of command-line programs that manipulate PS Type1 fonts. These programs are supposed to be available at the NeXTsoftware archives , cs.orst.edu, but I can't download them for some reasons. Please let me know if you have a copy of T1utils-1.1. Thanks. Hai Le
These are the contents of the former NiCE NeXT User Group NeXTSTEP/OpenStep software archive, currently hosted by Marcel Waldvogel and Netfuture.ch.