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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Date: 1 Dec 1997 02:56:19 GMT Message-ID: <19971201025600.VAA10490@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <347B851A.F53D1AD2@iona.com.hk> Just a quick check--has anyone installed OPENSTEP over such a connection? I've got a ThinkPad 755C with Dock 1 and Adaptec ISA SCSI card which isn't working for a direct install, and was wondering if installing over ethernet from my Cube would be practicable? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <65tdl1$1rk$867@joe.rice.edu> Control: cancel <65tdl1$1rk$867@joe.rice.edu> Date: 01 Dec 1997 04:21:38 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.65tdl1$1rk$867@joe.rice.edu> Sender: AMM Agent <noone@nowhere.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam@please.net (steven gougi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Global Village Mac Modem on NeXT?? Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 10:42:10 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <nospam-ya023680000112971042100001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi - I recently moved my Global Village Mac modem to my TurboColor Slab. It has a built in cable which ends with a mini- din 8 plug, and plugged right in to the serial port. Seems to work OK, though I have no way of finding out at what speed I'm connecting. What is your experience - if you are a GB user, that is! Regards Steven gougiATslipDOTnet
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WANTED: Opinion on swapdisk configuration Date: 26 Nov 1997 21:19:21 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <65i3op$fou$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi all, Long time after the death of my swap disk (was Maxtor MXT540S, fast but troublesome drive), I'm now ready to get another disk for swapping. My question is which configuration will be the fastest among the choices I have. 1. Stay with my main drive and don't add a swapdrive The drive is IBM DCAS-32160W, 5400 rpm, 8.5ms ave. seek 2. Add a Quantum or Fijitsu 1G Wide drive as a swapdisk. They are 5400 rpm, 9-10ms 3. Add 2 540MB Quantum LPS540S drives and make a RAID 0 array for swapdisk They are 4500 rpm, 13ms 2 and 3 will fall into a same price range for me. My SCSI controller is DPT PM2144UW with caching/RAID adapter with 16MB RAM on it. Thanks for your opinion. --- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:16:48 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <34826460.794B@de.ibm.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote: > [ ... ] > > In my eyes Jobs fault was to quit the Intel market with > > NeXT-Step/OpenStep. Why can't he sell his OS for $100? > > Oh, god. Go do a DejaNews search on the NeXT newsgroups for the term > "royalties". > > The short answer is that NeXT would lose money and go out of business trying > to sell NEXTSTEP for less than their educational price, because they owe > various other companies-- eg, Adobe for the DPS license-- money for evey copy > of NEXTSTEP sold. ... Simply wrong. You have to make some gifts otherwise you get no stand. That is exactly the reason why Jobs sucks. Look at Netscape. This is the way for a newcomer to hit the market. Software for free, money with the web servers. (The fight with MicroSoft is a different task in sequel of your success.) For the gifts you will need a strategy for the future. Jobs made gifts (Mathematica, etc.) but no strategy how to lead in the future. Same applies after joining Apple. There is only one reason to make no gifts. The customers must believe you are the leader of the business and are willing to pay any price. (It isn't necessary that you *are* the leader nor that you *have* the best product, they only have to believe...) Henry ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 08:27:00 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <348266C4.15FB@de.ibm.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <65q1vo$dv$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: > > Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote: > > If the software would have had a reasonable price... but $5500 for > > NS3.3? > > Well, the list price in the USA was $5000 even-- but your numbers are roughly > correct. NEXTSTEP sold because it improved developer productivity > sufficiently (at least for some roles) that it saved companies money overall > even at its 5K price point. > > For an example I've brought up before, your typical developer costs their > company on the order of 100K per year to support (including salary, overhead, > software, hardware, administration, etc). If you have a tool which improves > that developer's productivity by just 5%, then you would break even if that > tool costs 5K. NEXTSTEP generally improves developer productivity by much > more than 5%. yup, right. (In Germany the price was over 8000.-DM) This strategy is one way. But there are others out there... Companies are very conserative and they want a sudden success of the investment. The time you need for the first running App is often to long. Same applies for the OOP. The second point is if you plan for the future your products must exist and not fading away. NeXT-Step was a company too small for a real business. Now it is real. Same applies for the third party products, look at Lighthouse. ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: nlhauke@XXXXisomedia.com (Nelson Hauke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Printer Settings ?? Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 03:01:20 -0800 Organization: remove XXXX for email Message-ID: <nlhauke-0112970301200001@pm407.isomedia.com> References: <nospam-ya023680003011970917440001@news.slip.net> (steven gougi) wrote: > Pleez pleez do a test print "a" with your working NeXT Color Printer and > tell me if the "Current Settings" match mine. > They are as follows: > > Printing Mode = Mode -A > Interface = SCSI > Busy Timing = BSY-ACK > Ack Width = 0.5 Micro > SCSI ID# = 3 > Country Code = English > Media Select = Normal Paper > Color = Black > Condensed = Off > Line Length = 8 Inches > Character set = Graphics Table > Auto LF = Off > CR Code = Not Print > Character Pitch = 10 cpi > Page Length = 11 Inches > Font = Roman > International = USA > DC1/DC3 = Enable > > For some obscure reason I get a single line of characters on every page > until the paper runs out. > I must have one of the above setting incorrectly configured> > Hmmm, your Test A is different than my Test A: Controller ROM Ver=1.00 Engine Rom Ver=1.18 SCSI ROM Ver=1.10 Printing Mode=Mode-A Country Code=English SCSI ID=5 Media Select=Normal Paper Dump Mode=Dump Off And thats all that printed out. Nelson (remove XXXX for email)
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From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <65udu8$drt@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Control: cancel <65udu8$drt@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 01 Dec 1997 13:26:46 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.65udu8$drt@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Sender: mtfydpmb@makingmoney.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 1 Dec 1997 17:32:27 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65usbb$75e$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <34826460.794B@de.ibm.com> Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote: > Chuck Swiger wrote: >> Oh, god. Go do a DejaNews search on the NeXT newsgroups for the term >> "royalties". >> >> The short answer is that NeXT would lose money and go out of business trying >> to sell NEXTSTEP for less than their educational price, because they owe >> various other companies-- eg, Adobe for the DPS license-- money for evey copy >> of NEXTSTEP sold. > > Simply wrong. What is "wrong"? > You have to make some gifts otherwise you get no stand. > That is exactly the reason why Jobs sucks. Look at Netscape. This is > the way for a newcomer to hit the market. Software for free, money with > the web servers. *Thwap*-- wake up! What is the difference between NeXT's NEXTSTEP and Netscape's web browsers in terms of royalties owed to third parties? Selling a product below cost means you lose money-- and the higher your volume, the faster you lose money. Trying to sell below price in order to put a competitor out of business is illegal, as is artificially bolstering sales of some other product by "tieing" it to the one you're dumping. Furthermore, I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for-- if you know what you're doing, anyway". -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: kennjo@canberra.dialix.com.au (John Kennedy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help gls801 Date: 1 Dec 1997 22:12:50 GMT Organization: DIALix Internet Services Message-ID: <881014370.285971@hubble.dialix.com.au> Dear All, I have a Gestetner GLS801 laser printer which displays a 'BD malfunction'. As a result the printed page is uniformly grey with white bands spced about 1cm apart. Could anyone enlighten me as to a likely cause for this fault. It would be helpful if replies could be emailed to kennjo@dynamite.com.au Many thanks in anticipation John Kennedy
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading to new stylish hardware (and SS Voyager) Date: 28 Nov 1997 02:14:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65l9dn$qqc$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > is SPARC hardware a reasonable route? Or should I bite the bullet and buy > Intel? Note that the argument that I can always reboot into Windows to play > games doesn't mean much since I have our lab's PC for that. ;) No, but the argument that Rhapsody will run on Intel is a much stronger argument, if that is something that matters to you. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Boot Hanging Date: 28 Nov 1997 02:04:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65l8rv$qqc$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971126213842.19302B-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: jay@good.net In <Pine.GSO.3.95.971126213842.19302B-100000@goodguy> Jay Jacobson wrote: > When I go into the ROM Monitor and turn on verbose testing, two > problems occur. First, It says that my two new SIMMS are bad, but I just > tested them in my Linux box, and they are fine. Secondly, when I try to > continue boot-up anyway, it hangs at the point: > > Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst0 > Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst1 > > Any ideas why it would hang there? No idea about the SIMMs, but what happens right after that is Ethernet setups with the loopback and en0.... Would there happen to be anything in any of the ports on the back of the machine? Looks like it is having some problem figuring out the addresses. I've seen this before, but can't remember what the solution was.... too much turkey I guess... it's just a minor thing, but does prevent booting so I guess it's a major thing.. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: chrysties@mymail.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: hello Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 23:11:39 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <011297231139@mymail.com> Nothing to do? Let's talk. 1-900-786-1900
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From: "Vitor Hugo B.N. Rosa" <v.h.rosa@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.strategic,comp.sys.next.hardware,cs.amd,de.alt.music.jazz,en.alerts,es.ciencia.electronica,es.ciencia.matematicas,fido7.video,fj.education.math,geometry.puzzles,git.club.musicians-net,houston.music,intel.microprocessors.pent Subject: ! How BASIC MATH made me A LOT of MONEY Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 06:54:18 +0100 Message-ID: <660chv$6q4$1@duke.telepac.pt> Take a look at this !!! You gotta be crazy! How on earth do you think you can buy 50 grand for lousy 5 bucks? Well, that's what I was wondering, too until I came across this letter. First of all, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL! (Call 1-800-725-2161) if you have any questions about the following opportunity to make $50,000.00 and that probably WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS! Well, here it goes: A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a joke," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. I knew that that was the opportunity I had waited for for a long time I thought it was about time that the money of the world gets into the right hands! OURS, right? I never had a doubt that this thing will actually work and even if it didn't, what were 5 stamps and $5.00 for a try? As I mentioned before, like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Now, that's how your story WILL sound like, too if you participate: Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 A. Bailey 1207 Reeves Road Plainfield, IN 46168 #2 Anthony Lacks 644 Riverside Drive Apt.7B New York,N.Y. 10031 #3 Chad Hastings 9C Quiet Harbor Dr. Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 #4 Sean Mellett Upper Camus Camus Po Co.Galway Ireland #5 V. H. Rosa Rua Serpa Pinto, N7 rc Dt. 2675 Odivelas PORTUGAL STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (2 becomes 1, 3 becomes 2, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 18,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right , you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** Now the WHY part: This entire principle works because it is in a format of an upside down tree with thousands of branches. Everyone below you will see to it that the tree continues because they want to get money. Those below THEM will continue because THEY want to get the cash etc. Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM of 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 and start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! And this will go on and on and on and on.... get the picture? Well, there's 5,000,000,000 people on the world and most of them will eventually end up being hooked into the internet. So there are virtually unlimited resources. Of course this will work the best at the very beginning so the faster you post, the better for YOU! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so! People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.games.strategic,comp.sys.next.hardware,cs.amd,de.alt.music.jazz,en.alerts,es.ciencia.electronica,es.ciencia.matematicas,fido7.video,fj.education.math,geometry.puzzles,git.club.musicians-net,houston.music,intel.microprocessors.pent From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.660chv$6q4$1@duke.telepac.pt> Control: cancel <660chv$6q4$1@duke.telepac.pt> Subject: cmsg cancel <660chv$6q4$1@duke.telepac.pt> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 07:24:29 GMT Sender: "Vitor Hugo B.N. Rosa" <v.h.rosa@usa.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 09:42:58 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <3483CA12.59E2@de.ibm.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <34826460.794B@de.ibm.com> <65usbb$75e$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: ... > Selling a product below cost means you lose money-- and the higher your volume, > the faster you lose money. Trying to sell below price in order to put a > competitor out of business is illegal, as is artificially bolstering sales of some > other product by "tieing" it to the one you're dumping. > > Furthermore, I'm a firm believer in "you get what you pay for-- if you know what > you're doing, anyway". ... Yes, right. But I believe Netscape lost money the first time. And what is illegal? TI tried 1983 to kick out Commodore and sold their computer for $99. This price was well below the production costs with the aim to kick out Commodore. (And there wasn't any bundle or other things tied with the computer) TI payed more than $20 million for this trial. What is illegal?? Who cares? TI learned their lessons. Things only become illegal if someone sues you. If nobody does? Now they are out of business like Jobs, but he never tried to fight against his competitors in that aggressive way. Look at Microsoft. Billy Boy tries to bundle his browser with his nightmare of OS. (Or vice versa. OK, he has some trouble now but that is part of the business) He will kill Netscape. So the question once again. Why didn't sell Jobs his OS for $100 as a demo? (And make the release lock public over some computer magazines? This was made by other companies in that subtle way) There are a lot of ways to join to the business, you will say they are illegal. But if no one can sue you, you are only unmoral but in the market. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
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From: Paul Miglio <pmiglio@mcgh.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 / Intel / fdisk reports no partitions Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:48:02 -0500 Organization: Mount Clemens General Hospital Message-ID: <34778B52.1CADAD2A@mcgh.org> References: <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <64f167$i71$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the info, allthough this and 86,497 other attempts failed. Ghosting the drive appears to be impossible. Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > In <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Paul Miglio wrote: > > > Trying to "GHOST" NeXT 3.3 for Intel on IDE Drive. "GHOST" is > failing > > > becasue no partitions are defined. Why are no partitions > defined? How > > > can I define them. > > > > Because NeXT's lowlevel disk tools suck. > > > > I've spent the last 2 days futzing with them > > Sorry for the incredibly non-helpful reply..... I had gone through > several > (ie dozens) of system panics and manual fsck'ings over the last two > days and > had to spend a lot of time with the commandline disk tools and found > them not > very helpful at all. > > To try and help: you might try hooking the drive to an existing NeXT > machine > and run BuildDisk, which will allow you to setup partitions > graphically. > Otherwise you have to use 'disk' at the commandline. > > TjL > -- > My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is > not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. > This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. > Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading to new stylish hardware (and SS Voyager) Date: 2 Dec 1997 14:33:18 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <66167e$f9e$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > So, I've been considering SPARC hardware. I've always really liked the >SS Voyager; can those who've used one under NS 3.3 (or OS/Mach 4.2) say how >snappy it feels compared to black, both Turbo and non-Turbo? What about other >SPARCs, like 4s or 5s? I gather that prices on compatible systems would be in Hm, yes, OPENSTEP feels fine on a Voyager, but it's a rather expensive machine, has a small keyboard, and with Rhapsody coming on, unlike Intel hardware, it's probably the end of the road for Sparc. I've bought an Intel machine two years ago (still using the black HW, but compiles on Intel hardware are *much* faster). It's kinda ok, but I'm not happy with the general crappiness of the PC keyboard and mouse, in additon, getting sound to work is a real PIA, and I've yet to see a PC graphics card with a halfways decent performance under OPENSTEP - they probably exist, but not in my price range. :-) If I were in your place, I'd consider building a really stylish (and quiet) PC, maybe even based on a Cube enclosure. Of course, if Rhapsody is an option, you might also want to consider Apple hardware. Rumor has it that AppLE will release some really neat high end machines next spring. Who knows, maybe they will talk to frog design again.. :-) the cube and the gooseneck monitor design have no equal. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WANTED: Opinion on swapdisk configuration References: <65i3op$fou$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <6616g0$f9e$2@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <34843852.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 2 Dec 97 16:33:22 GMT Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote: > satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) wrote: > > My question is which configuration will be the fastest > > among the > >choices I have. > > > >1. Stay with my main drive and don't add a swapdrive > > The drive is IBM DCAS-32160W, 5400 rpm, 8.5ms ave. seek > > ... > > My SCSI controller is DPT PM2144UW with caching/RAID adapter > > with > >16MB RAM on it. > In my humble opinion, you'll get the best bang for your buck by > adding lots of memory to your DPT cache. This will improve _all_ > disk operations, not only swaps. I didn't get his entire post b/c my news feed stinks. Anyway, using your above drive for swap and getting a new one will definatly help things. As a matter of fact, having a seperate drive for every 'class' of drive operation will help things by putting them into parallel. i.e. having a drive for just user accounts, another for localapps, another for swap, another for locallibrary, another for the main operating system will all greatly help throughput. And as you get more and more drives, that kind of thing becomes more likely. The general rule of thumb for your swap drive is it should be at least 65% the speed of your new main drive for it to be worthwhile; otherwise it's likely better on average to keep your swap on the new drive. Of course depending on the various uses, other options may make sense. Adding more memory to your dpt cache will help too, as would adding more memory to your main system. It depends on how much memory you have, and where, on your current system. If you have gobs on your main system already, going to 64mb on the dpt will definatly improve things. If you on the other hand have only 64 on your main system, I'd go to 128mb on there first. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: rms@jeffress.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Richard Stern) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color displays and Macs Date: 2 Dec 1997 18:02:05 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon Univ. -- Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <661iet$148$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Keywords: Color display, Mac Phone: (412) 268-2535; FAX: (412) 268-3890; Email: rms@cs.cmu.edu Can the NeXT 21-inch Megapixel color display be used with any of the current generation Apple computers? If so, what needs to be done to get it to work? Thanks for the help and advice! -Rich Stern Richard Stern Carnegie Mellon University Phone: (412) 268-2535; FAX: (412) 268-3890; Email: rms@cs.cmu.edu
From: rms@jeffress.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU (Richard Stern) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color displays and Macs Date: 2 Dec 1997 18:01:33 GMT Organization: Carnegie Mellon Univ. -- Computer Science Dept. Message-ID: <661idt$145$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Keywords: Color display, Mac Phone: (412) 268-2535; FAX: (412) 268-3890; Email: rms@cs.cmu.edu Can the NeXT 21-inch Megapixel color display be used with any of the current generation Apple computers? If so, what needs to be done to get it to work? Thanks for the help and advice! -Rich Stern Richard Stern Carnegie Mellon University Phone: (412) 268-2535; FAX: (412) 268-3890; Email: rms@cs.cmu.edu
From: finton@sol15.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Multitech 33.6 or 28.8 modem on TurboColor? Date: 3 Dec 1997 00:21:34 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <6628me$p8r@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I have an opportunity to buy a used Multitech 33.6 or 28.8 modem for a very low price. I'm wondering if it would work as a replacement for the Supra 144LC which I'm currently using with my TurboColor. Even though folks say that the black boxes won't support connect speeds above 38K, my software thinks it's connecting at 57600, and my PPP logs don't show any errors. Maybe the actual number of bits going through the wire isn't 57600, or maybe I just have wonderful copper from Ameritech; I don't know. So, I really have two questions. First, will it work? Second, will it make a difference on a TurboColor NeXT? Thanks in advance, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <250028870@searchspaniel.com> Date: 2 Dec 1997 20:05:11 GMT Control: cancel <250028870@searchspaniel.com> Message-ID: <cancel.250028870@searchspaniel.com> Sender: smith@umes07.avl.co.at (Search Spaniel) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: pit@SPAM.ME!iohk.com (taiQ) Organization: Urban Primates Inc. @IOHK.COM Message-ID: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-d3D6Cv3QyLd6@iohk.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Using ADB devices with a PC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 29 Nov 97 12:21:08 GMT Are there any adapters or ISA/PCI cards with ADB ports that would allow using ADB peripherals such as graphics tablets on a PC? --=A0 Rgds, -*- taiQ in hongkong -*- [pit at iohk]
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Multitech 33.6 or 28.8 modem on TurboColor? Date: 3 Dec 1997 09:34:07 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <66392f$ij@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <6628me$p8r@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: finton@sol15.cs.wisc.edu In <6628me$p8r@spool.cs.wisc.edu> David Finton wrote: > I have an opportunity to buy a used Multitech 33.6 or > 28.8 modem for a very low price. I'm wondering if it > would work as a replacement for the Supra 144LC which > I'm currently using with my TurboColor. I had a 33.6 modem, connected to a 28.8 host :(. Worked fine and brought higher transfer rates than my old 14.4, esp. for compressed files. It's just that the rates won't double for text files. IIRC, the best I got was 5.something for a ps file BTW, I was running at 57600 speed on my 25MHz slab. Probably luck. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: "Hĺkan Jonsson" <Hakan_Johnsson@vtc.volvo.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Millenuim II driver for NSFIP 3.3 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:18:42 +0100 Organization: Volvo Truck Corporation Message-ID: <34854E22.A6B0846F@vtc.volvo.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does anyone know if the latest versions(which support II (MGA2164W)) of the driver for Matrox MGA Millenium II work under NSFIP 3.3? The driver overview on Nextanswers states that it has not been tested for 3.3. /Hakan
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From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Millenuim II driver for NSFIP 3.3 Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 16:21:56 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <34857914.41C6@de.ibm.com> References: <34854E22.A6B0846F@vtc.volvo.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hĺkan Jonsson wrote: > > Hi! > > Does anyone know if the latest versions(which support II (MGA2164W)) of > the driver for Matrox MGA Millenium II work under NSFIP 3.3? The driver > overview on Nextanswers states that it has not been tested for 3.3. The driver doesn't work with a normal MATROX Millenium. Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 3 Dec 1997 15:59:34 GMT Message-ID: <19971203155901.KAA28521@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <3483CA12.59E2@de.ibm.com> Koplien@de.IBM.com said: >Why didn't sell Jobs his OS for $100 as a demo? Because he had to pay royalties on a lot of the system software: Adobe for Display PostScript AT&T for their code in Unix BSD 4.2 For development tools, they had to pay Brad Cox/Stepwise for the Objective-C license for a while (this licensing was later changed, forget the details.). NeXT barely broke even on the Academic packages at $300. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Date: 4 Dec 1997 02:52:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <6655si$7im$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> <EKMwBH.Bys@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: >In article <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net>, >>How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? Viewing TV on the ND is _VERY_ nice IMHO. The ND can pump the video signal directly out the ND's video port so it very fast with zero jerkiness. Still blows me away considering this is something like 8 year old hardware! :-) >>What about sound? I assume it >>has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound >>and tv on my nextstep desktop? > >As far as I know, with the basic ND setup, you can only plug any video >source ND and play video. The ND has two composite video in ports and one S-Video in (software selectable) and one composite out, one S-Video out and one RGB out (EGA pinout). > There is no audio output with video. The ND has no audio in or out capabilites. There also isn't any special synchronization between the ND's video and the motherboard's DSP sound. >The >video screen is also only part of the monitor screen and this may be >changed through programming (?) NeXTtv displays 640x480, which is NTSC resolution. No full-screen mode, sorry. I don't think the ND has any hardware accelerated magnification or reduction capabilites for framegrabbing either, unlike say the Digital Eye. You _could_ grab frames one at a time, send them to the 040, scale them, and send them back to the ND but it wont be anywhere near real time. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3 refresh rate Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 23:45:53 +0200 Organization: Telecom Italia Net Message-ID: <srampazzo-2911972345530001@padova12-14.tin.it> I'm running Openstep 4.2 and Rhapsody for PC compatibles on my Pentium system equipped with an S3 trio64+ video card (S3 generic PCI Display Driver). Unfortunately I am not able to set a refresh rate > 60Hz. Any suggestion ? Thanks in advance Stefano
From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 07:30:43 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <666eql$jva$1@news.xmission.com> References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Fisher wrote: > ... > > How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? What about sound? I assume it > has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound > and tv on my nextstep desktop? I currently have my ND board set up as a monitor for an 8-bit Atari computer, using the composite video jack. The video is excellent; from looking at it, I can't see any difference at all between it and running the Atari through channel 3 on a TV set. The viewing area covers somewhere around 33% of the monitor (640x480). It's true that ND doesn't have a tuner. If you want to watch broadcast video, you need something like a VCR to do tho channel decoding. Also, there is nowhere to plug in the audio. Oh, there's the microphone jack, but I don't think that could handle the audio input levels and I'm not going to risk it in finding out. Eventually I hope to have a stereo amplifier set with extra inputs for computer audio, but until then, my Atari is running silent. -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Message-ID: <EKo6K3.Lty@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> <666eql$jva$1@news.xmission.com> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:50:27 GMT In article <666eql$jva$1@news.xmission.com>, Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> wrote: >Chris Fisher wrote: >> ... >> >> How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? What about sound? I assume it >> has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound >> and tv on my nextstep desktop? > >I currently have my ND board set up as a monitor for an 8-bit Atari >computer, using the composite video jack. The video is excellent; from >looking at it, I can't see any difference at all between it and running >the Atari through channel 3 on a TV set. The viewing area covers >somewhere around 33% of the monitor (640x480). Actually the video looks darker and less colorful to me, comparing with the the two TVs we have. I tried to change the settings (with VideoApp), but it did not improve so much. > >It's true that ND doesn't have a tuner. If you want to watch broadcast >video, you need something like a VCR to do tho channel decoding. Also, >there is nowhere to plug in the audio. Oh, there's the microphone jack, >but I don't think that could handle the audio input levels and I'm not >going to risk it in finding out. Eventually I hope to have a stereo >amplifier set with extra inputs for computer audio, but until then, my >Atari is running silent.
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Chipsets with NS3.3 Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:12:52 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971204145953.318A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " I am about to purchase a machine to run NeXTStep 3.3. I am wondering if NeXTStep works with all chipsets. For example, does it run well with MMX chips? If I go classic Pentium, should either the HX or TX chipset (both ASUS motherboards) work equally well? Anything I need to be aware of when choosing the chip/motherboard or does anything work well with NeXTStep? Any problems with the driver for the Matrox Mystique 220 business card? Thanks for the help. Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: another moitor Q. Message-ID: <EKGrBo.1tF@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <65ab1d$7bd$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 14:38:08 GMT In article <65ab1d$7bd$1@pith.uoregon.edu> sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) writes: > OK, I'm pretty sure that my monitor is indeed dead. So, another > question: > > Is it ok to run the machine without a monitor attached at all, > or do I need to leave the dead one connected? I'd rather just > have the box sitting there if the monitor isn't gonna work anywa. > Will this cause problems, on boot or otherwise? > That depends on the model. Monochrome cubes (and slabs ?) need the load on the power supply, otherwise the shut down immediately. Color systems work perfectly as long as the soundbox remains in place. For black cubes there is a hacker recipe in the FAQ on Peanuts. Sort of ugly but works. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: "Eric Smalley" <ericsmal@xs4all.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Win one the most anticipated 3D cards soon available Date: 30 Nov 1997 18:13:33 GMT Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <01bcfdbb$2dfb8020$2b2f6dc2@server> The title just says it all. Here's the link: 3D Blaster NL http://www.xs4all.nl/~ericsmal/3dbnl.html
From: Andang Kustamsi <andang@nmt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation User's Guide Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 21:43:36 -0700 Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology Message-ID: <34878677.441D@nmt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear NeXTians, I have a question. Is there any user's guide for NeXTstation? Because I bought used NeXTstation without user manual or documentation. If any, can you tell me the website or books? TIA. Andang <andang@nmt.edu>
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use of Non-NeXT Mice on Machines Date: 25 Nov 1997 18:05:00 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <65f40c$4q4$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <01bcf8e4$ae6f6860$dab2d182@craigs-pc.elec.gla.ac.uk> <65dgbm$qbt$1@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >"Craig Slorach" <craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote: >>We have a number of machines here with faulty mice. This may seem a silly >>question- but can any other types of mice be used (Apple ones ?). ... [newer NeXT hardware uses ADB, Apple compatible mice work] >Older Next machines use a non standard connection. Apparently it was close >enough to a common PC mouse that you were able to buy one of them and fix it >up to use with your Next. I thought it was in the FAQ, but it isn't. The >information abou the pins are tho. See: Yip. I have the wiring info and diagram, if anybody needs it, send me mail (please remove the spamblock first) and I'll forward it to you. However, please note that it only works for *bus* mice, which are hard to come by these days. Alternatively, try to fix the NeXT mice. Most of the times, you are merely suffering a broken cable which can easily be fixed. Sometimes, all that's needed is cleaning the mouse ball and the rollers (remove the black rubbery substance from the rollers - it's not rubber, it's dirt :-). HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Chipsets with NS3.3 Date: 5 Dec 1997 06:33:53 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <66878h$5h1$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971204145953.318A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: > I am about to purchase a machine to run NeXTStep 3.3. I am wondering if > NeXTStep works with all chipsets. For example, does it run well with MMX > chips? If I go classic Pentium, should either the HX or TX chipset > (both ASUS motherboards) work equally well? Anything I need to be aware > of when choosing the chip/motherboard or does anything work well with > NeXTStep? I have a "ASUS TX97 smart" with a 430TX chipset and a Pentium 200MMX. All works fine. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: another moitor Q. Date: Sun, 30 Nov 97 13:37:03 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <971130133301-mpaque@wco.com> References: <65ab1d$7bd$1@pith.uoregon.edu> <EKGrBo.1tF@nidat.sub.org> In article <EKGrBo.1tF@nidat.sub.org> of group comp.sys.next.hardware, Peter Nitezki writes: > In article <65ab1d$7bd$1@pith.uoregon.edu> sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu > (Sean Harding) writes: > > Is it ok to run the machine without a monitor attached at all, > > or do I need to leave the dead one connected? I'd rather just > > have the box sitting there if the monitor isn't gonna work anywa. > > Will this cause problems, on boot or otherwise? > > > That depends on the model. Monochrome cubes (and slabs ?) need the load > on the power supply, otherwise the shut down immediately. Color systems > work perfectly as long as the soundbox remains in place. Power supply load (and the dummy resistor hack) is only an issue on the early Cubes. Later cubes (dating from roughly when the first 68040 cards shipped) don't need the hack. You'll still need to use a sound box and keyboard, or do some connector wiring, to run a monochrome system headless. The power supply in the NeXTStation and NeXTStation Color (and Turbo systems) are identical (modulo minor manufacturing tweaks). Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk mailers!)
From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3 refresh rate Date: 5 Dec 1997 09:19:04 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <668gu8$1iu@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <srampazzo-2911972345530001@padova12-14.tin.it> srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) wrote: >I'm running Openstep 4.2 and Rhapsody for PC compatibles on my Pentium >system equipped with an S3 trio64+ video card (S3 generic PCI Display >Driver). >Unfortunately I am not able to set a refresh rate > 60Hz. We have the same card and the same problem, but no solution. If you find one, please let me know or post it. -- Arne Sieg +++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++ "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Message-ID: <Sjxm8pdb76eT@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 4 Dec 97 14:48:18 MDT References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> <666eql$jva$1@news.xmission.com> <EKo6K3.Lty@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <EKo6K3.Lty@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote: > In article <666eql$jva$1@news.xmission.com>, > Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> wrote: > >Chris Fisher wrote: > >> ... > >> > >> How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? What about sound? I assume it > >> has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound > >> and tv on my nextstep desktop? > > > >I currently have my ND board set up as a monitor for an 8-bit Atari > >computer, using the composite video jack. The video is excellent; from > >looking at it, I can't see any difference at all between it and running > >the Atari through channel 3 on a TV set. The viewing area covers > >somewhere around 33% of the monitor (640x480). > > Actually the video looks darker and less colorful to me, comparing > with the the two TVs we have. I tried to change the settings > (with VideoApp), but it did not improve so much. > The gamma correction on NS is different than on PCs. There is an app called Calibrator.app which can be used to adjust the gamma correction to a value more like a PC, if that's what you'd like.
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [NeXT Laser Problem] Your printer cover is open! Date: 5 Dec 1997 11:18:26 GMT Organization: ppai News Message-ID: <668nu2$7v2$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Though I closed the NeXTLaser printer cover, following message pannel appeard. "Your printer cover is open!". Also I heard same voice alert. What's wrong? My printer is not dead. Thanks younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) ppai@bbs.para.co.kr (Large size NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai http://bbs.para.co.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, Rhapsody Q&A & Info Board written in Korean) (The Web site contains 5,200 articles about NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP and Rhapsody)
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use of Non-NeXT Mice on Machines Date: 25 Nov 1997 03:23:34 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <65dgbm$qbt$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <01bcf8e4$ae6f6860$dab2d182@craigs-pc.elec.gla.ac.uk> "Craig Slorach" <craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote: >Hi, > >We have a number of machines here with faulty mice. This may seem a silly >question- but can any other types of mice be used (Apple ones ?). Some Next machines use ADB for the keyboard and mouse. For these you should be able to just plug in a Mac resplacement. If you use the second botton on the mouse, then look for a Mac mouse with two bottons. Older Next machines use a non standard connection. Apparently it was close enough to a common PC mouse that you were able to buy one of them and fix it up to use with your Next. I thought it was in the FAQ, but it isn't. The information abou the pins are tho. See: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.toc.html You could try phoning one of the current suppliers of used equipment. DeepSpace Technologies http://www.deepspacetech.com/ Spherical Solutions http://www.orb.com/ Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation User's Guide Date: 5 Dec 1997 16:57:24 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Message-ID: <669bpk$30h$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <34878677.441D@nmt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <34878677.441D@nmt.edu> Andang Kustamsi wrote: > Dear NeXTians, > > I have a question. Is there any user's guide for NeXTstation? Because I > bought used NeXTstation without user manual or documentation. If any, > can you tell me the website or books? > > TIA. > > Andang <andang@nmt.edu> > Try Timothy Luoma's web site for starters. It's at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ --RS
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Chipsets with NS3.3 Date: 5 Dec 1997 17:46:18 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <669ela$okl$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971204145953.318A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> wrote: > I am about to purchase a machine to run NeXTStep 3.3. I am wondering if > NeXTStep works with all chipsets. Basicly, yes. > For example, does it run well with MMX chips? Sure, although NEXTSTEP doesn't use the MMX functionality at all, though the better caches and so forth found on MMX chips do improve performance compared to the older, non-MMX Pentiums. > If I go classic Pentium, should either the HX or TX chipset > (both ASUS motherboards) work equally well? Any of the Intel chipsets work okay, although you want to beware of the 64MB caching limitation of some of these chipsets (depending on whether you have the 430{TX,HX} or the 440{TX,HX} version). Check out <URL=http://www.tomshardware.com/chipset.html> Also, we've had serious problems with the reliability of one recent generation of the ASUS motherboards here-- something like 5 out of a dozen have had to be returned for warranty service. > Anything I need to be aware of when choosing the chip/motherboard or > does anything work well with NeXTStep? Nothing NEXTSTEP-specific, although paying a little more and getting good quality components is a good idea. > Any problems with the driver for the Matrox Mystique 220 business card? Not that I know of. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKoxpv.ECF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:37:07 GMT References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> <EKMwBH.Bys@midway.uchicago.edu> <6655si$7im$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <6655si$7im$1@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > >NeXTtv displays 640x480, which is NTSC resolution. No full-screen mode, >sorry. I don't think the ND has any hardware accelerated magnification or >reduction capabilites for framegrabbing either, unlike say the Digital Eye. Nope; the ND has nothing like this. Still, on the 21" monitor it's good for watching TV. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: parse@my.sig.net Many Thanks Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Disktab for IBM UltraStar 2ES 2.1GB Date: 5 Dec 1997 20:32:36 GMT Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <669od4$etp$1@newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu> Would anyone happen to have a disktab for this drive, or one similar that I could work from? Very grateful. Best, PS - The distributor (Peripheral Solutions) says that this drive cannot be reformatted into 1024/byte sectors. I don't want to trash the drive by trying, but I'd be interested to know if anyone has done it successfully. -- invert: umich.edu jdevlin insert: shift "2"
From: <darknerd@shell4.ba.best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WANTED: Hardware FAQ Date: 6 Dec 1997 02:19:45 GMT Organization: BEST Internet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <66aco1$q03$3@nntp1.ba.best.com> Hi, I was wondering if there was every such a thing as a NeXT hardware FAQ lying around anywhere. If one could give me one, I would be happy. -- <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ Joaquin Menchaca \ > "Learn to Unlearn" > / Linux/m68k (Macintosh, Amiga) / <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hawk 2XL in slab Date: 6 Dec 1997 03:43:26 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <66ahku$bin$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Hi there, does anyone has any experience with Hawk2XL 80Pin HD in a slab?? I just retired one of mine.. I know it needs an adaptor.. but just want to see anyone has tried it before I head out to get the adaptor!=) Thanks Godwin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:25:13 -0000 Message-ID: <65hbg9$6g3$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Organization: none References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <19971120181401.NAA03709@ladder02.news.aol.com> <6536ou$ign$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <EK80rE.p2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca In <EK80rE.p2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > Yes, the Zip drive can do this, and people have posted the URLs for the > white-only software to get it together. I now have all the docs I need to > make a black-friendly app with similar capabilities but haven't had the time > to have at it yet. I would start by contacting the autor of the white version: wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at and see if he would be willing to share the code, or compile it at least dualfat. Unless there is some endian coding that would make it not work under black hardware.... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:58:23 -0000 Message-ID: <347cde56.19318686@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> From: dgkauf@ibm.net Subject: FS: 14" SVGA Monitor $100 FS: 14" SVGA Monitor Optimum Res/Color: 1024x768/16 bit Manufacturer: "Pixie" Location: Chicago Burbs Price: $100 +shipping Email: dgkauf@ibm.net
From: smith@umes07.avl.co.at (Search Spaniel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next-search the web quickly with Search Spaniel Date: Tue, 02 Dec 97 18:50:21 GMT Organization: Search Spaniel Message-ID: <250028870@searchspaniel.com> To Next-search the most search engines in the shortest time, use the internet's newest search engine - Search Spaniel at: http://www.searchspaniel.com/
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <881433773@davidj.altu.net.au> Control: cancel <881433773@davidj.altu.net.au> Date: 06 Dec 1997 20:55:25 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.881433773@davidj.altu.net.au> Sender: grant-e@USA.NET Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Robert La Ferla" <Robert_La_Ferla_@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question: AGP Compatability Date: 6 Dec 1997 21:02:19 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <01bd02b3$915a2ed0$0ab373c6@lincoln> References: <65kkn2$9rk@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> OPENSTEP 4.2 does not support AGP. You need a PCI graphics card. I recommend the Matrox Millenium II 4 or 8MB card. Apple needs to support AGP in the future. If they do it right, it will translate into a significant advance in graphics performance for Rhapsody. OPENSTEP uses Display PostScript which renders your display on your host and sends it across the PCI bus to a graphics card. Windows, on the other hand, sends graphics commands to the graphics card which renders it. This is why graphics accellerator cards are so fast under Windows and don't do much under OPENSTEP. With AGP, Display PostScript can write directly into the framebuffer (over the Accelerated Graphics Port) which will mean a significant performance improvement. Robert La Ferla OPENSTEP Consultant Mach / NT / Rhapsody Larry A. Latson, Jr. <lal9@po.CWRU.Edu> wrote in article <65kkn2$9rk@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu>... > > hi all, > > i am in the market for a new intel PII, scsi, the whole > nine yards. so of course i also want an AGP graphics > card. does anyone know if OS4.2 supports this? is the > driver the same? i don't want to buy a new computer that > won't run next. thanks, > > LL > -- > "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story > of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH >
From: mrf142@psu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Global Village Mac Modem on NeXT?? Date: 4 Dec 1997 20:17:37 GMT Organization: Penn State University Sender: mrf142@0.0.0.0 Message-ID: <667351$1epq@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <nospam-ya023680000112971042100001@news.slip.net> Maybe I'm wrong, but can't you just type ATI? Matt
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12245880866021@digifix.com> Date: 7 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <2329881470822@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. 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From: Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: ASUS board with Rhapsody? Date: 7 Dec 1997 02:32:03 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <66d1r3$kle$1@ralph.vnet.net> Has anyone successfully installed Rhapsody and/or OpenStep on a machine with any of the following ASUS motherboards: ASUS P2L97 ASUS P2L97-S ASUS P2L97-DS Does anyone know of any problems or expect there might be any problems in running Rhapsody (and/or OpenStep) on these boards? Also, what's the general opinion of them? Thanks. Timothy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Mills timothy@acm.org
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question: AGP Compatability Date: 7 Dec 1997 13:48:02 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <66e9ei$185$1@news.seicom.net> References: <65kkn2$9rk@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> <01bd02b3$915a2ed0$0ab373c6@lincoln> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: Robert_La_Ferla_@hot.com In <01bd02b3$915a2ed0$0ab373c6@lincoln> "Robert La Ferla" wrote: > With AGP, Display PostScript can write directly into the > framebuffer (over the Accelerated Graphics Port) which will mean a > significant performance improvement. Are you sure about this? All tests I read did show that an AGP card is not much faster than their PCI complement on sheer framebuffer speed. AGP seems mostly useful when the graphics accelerator on board the video card is accessing large textures for 3D applications (say for games). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, IRIX, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Vassilis AG Aivazis <aivazis@scf.usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help Booting Problem Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 16:06:48 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Message-ID: <348B3A18.FDDD4FB9@scf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I just finish installing 3.3 and all my appl and when I restart the machine I dont get the login menu.. nothing the machine does nothing. So I reinstall and again the same problem Does any one knows how to solve this the work manager does not respont Thanks Vassilis
From: chris@vespucci.advicom.net (Chris Fisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TV on a NextDimension. Date: 3 Dec 1997 12:29:10 -0600 Organization: interQuest Online Services -- Huntsville, AL Distribution: world Message-ID: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> Okay this may be the final selling point that makes me fork out the cash to go from turbo color to a nextdimension system... How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? What about sound? I assume it has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound and tv on my nextstep desktop? thanks, chris -- nippur (nextturbocolor) kish (nextturbocolor) ur (sunipc) more soon! Semi-Rabid TDS/South Park Viewer | Current CD: Van Der Graaf Generator NeXTstep/*BSD*/Solaris/SunOS/OSF/Linux/Ultrix/OS2/WinNTi/VSTa/SCO/etc...
From: "Bruce Riegel" <briegel@bga.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Monitor - Monochrome - Need to buy Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:51:14 -0600 Organization: Real/Time Communications Internet customer posting Message-ID: <664d6f$g8q$1@news3.realtime.net> After almost 10 years of faithful service... my Black NeXT monitor... must have died. The system is still working... I just can't see what's happening. I need to buy a monochrome NeXT monitor. Any suggestions or spare monitors would be much appreciated! Bruce briegel@bga.com
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help Booting Problem Date: 8 Dec 1997 00:17:11 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66fea7$em1$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <348B3A18.FDDD4FB9@scf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: aivazis@scf.usc.edu In <348B3A18.FDDD4FB9@scf.usc.edu> Vassilis AG Aivazis wrote: > I just finish installing 3.3 and all my appl and when I restart the machine > I dont get the login menu.. nothing the machine does nothing. So I > reinstall and again the same problem Does any one knows how to solve this > the work manager does not respont Is this on Intel or NeXT? What hardware do you have attached (cd-roms, harddrives, etc)? Have you tried booting verbosely? What is the last line you see? Have you booted into single user mode and tried reading /usr/adm/messages and see what it says there? Do you have another machine attached where you can telnet to this machine and see what's happening? TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org SCSI ID bit 2 (4) 7-8 Write protect on should be IN 9-10 (reserved) should be OUT These jumpers are similarly setup as above like this: x o 1-2 x o 3-4 x o 5-6 x x 7-8 o o 9-10 Where 'x' indicates a jumper is covered, and 'o' means that a jumper is NOT covered. Questions: - Can I set the ID to '6' by covered the 3-4 and 5-6 jumpers? - I want to be able to write to the disk, should 7-8 be covered or not? - What do the 'termination power' settings mean? What should be covered? Thanks for your time. TjL -- Usenet replies using the above Reply-To address will work. UCE/UBE to the above address is not welcome, and is the reason for the expiration of the address.
From: dgkauf@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: 14" SVGA Monitor $80 Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 05:49:17 GMT Message-ID: <348b8a4a.72796494@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Organization: IBM.NET FS: 14" SVGA Monitor Optimum Res/Color: 1024x768/16 bit Manufacturer: "Pixie" Location: Chicago Burbs Price: $80 +shipping Email: dgkauf@ibm.net
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help Booting Problem Date: 7 Dec 1997 20:07:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <66fo8k$3r9@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <348B3A18.FDDD4FB9@scf.usc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: aivazis@scf.usc.edu In <348B3A18.FDDD4FB9@scf.usc.edu> Vassilis AG Aivazis wrote: > Hi > I just finish installing 3.3 and all my appl and when I restart the > machine > I dont get the login menu.. nothing the machine does nothing. > So I reinstall and again the same problem > Does any one knows how to solve this the work manager does not respont > To clarify a few things a bit for Vassilis: The machine goes from the B&W screen to the color background, then the cursor spins, the arrow pointer shows up and no login screen. I spoke to him on the phone and this problem started suddenly: 1. failure ocurred after a poweroff/shutdown. 2. the machine is an ADB NeXT Turbocolor with a 1 G drive. 3. memory's been tested/reseated 4. system logs report a failure of the Workspace. Anyone have any ideas? -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Millenuim II driver for NSFIP 3.3 Date: 3 Dec 1997 20:12:38 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Dec3144311@slave.doubleu.com> References: <34854E22.A6B0846F@vtc.volvo.se> In-reply-to: "Hĺkan Jonsson"'s message of Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:18:42 +0100 In article <34854E22.A6B0846F@vtc.volvo.se>, "Hĺkan Jonsson" <Hakan_Johnsson@vtc.volvo.se> writes: Does anyone know if the latest versions(which support II (MGA2164W)) of the driver for Matrox MGA Millenium II work under NSFIP 3.3? The driver overview on Nextanswers states that it has not been tested for 3.3. I'm running an MGA-II under NS3.3 just fine. Note that there are seperate drivers for OS4.x and NS3.3 on NeXT's website. I don't think the OS4.x one will work under NS3.3... -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: Millenuim II driver for NSFIP 3.3 Date: 3 Dec 1997 21:31:11 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <664j2v$ok6$2@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> References: <34854E22.A6B0846F@vtc.volvo.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit "Hĺkan Jonsson" <Hakan_Johnsson@vtc.volvo.se> wrote: > Does anyone know if the latest versions(which support II (MGA2164W)) of > the driver for Matrox MGA Millenium II work under NSFIP 3.3? The driver > overview on Nextanswers states that it has not been tested for 3.3. I have a Matrox Millenium II (8 MB) on NS 3.3 with driver v3,37. For now it works fine with the folowing restrictions : - in 32 bits mode, moving windows is very slow. So I use only 16 bits (1024x1280, 75 Hz, RGB 444/16 on a Sony 300sf monitor) and so I use the 4 MB driver. - when shuting down the system, it sometime crashes when resetting video to 640x480. To avoid this, I logout first, then wait 30 s to let all pending disk I/O to be done, and then I select Stop, and all is ok then. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: TV on a NextDimension. Message-ID: <EKMwBH.Bys@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net> Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:11:40 GMT In article <6648dm$dd0@vespucci.advicom.net>, Chris Fisher <chris@vespucci.advicom.net> wrote: >Okay this may be the final selling point that makes me fork out the cash >to go from turbo color to a nextdimension system... > >How good is the tv viewing on the ND card? What about sound? I assume it >has no tuner. So what is the basic setup needed to get at least mono sound >and tv on my nextstep desktop? > >thanks, >chris > As far as I know, with the basic ND setup, you can only plug any video source ND and play video. There is no audio output with video. The video screen is also only part of the monitor screen and this may be changed through programming (?) Any more info?
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diagnose?? Request Sense command failed / ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error Date: 8 Dec 1997 09:14:20 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66gdpc$gnk$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit disk name: FUJITSU M2694ES-512 812 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi Disk utility disk> Format Request Sense command failed ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error Disk Format Failed disk> Could this mean that the write-protect was turned on? Termination was wrong? scsimodes reports> SCSI information for /dev/rsd5a Drive type: FUJITSU M2694ES-512 812 512 bytes per sector 77 sectors per track 15 tracks per cylinder 1819 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 5 spare sectors per cylinder 15 alternate tracks per volume 2117024 usable sectors on volume Thanks! TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: dcl@panix.com (David C. Lambert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cadillac of NS/NT laptops? Date: 8 Dec 1997 10:37:12 -0500 Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and Unix, NYC Message-ID: <66h478$j7i@panix.com> Hi. What are the current power choices for a dual booting NS/NT laptop (maybe Linux too)?
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [NeXT Laser Problem] Your printer cover is open! Date: 8 Dec 1997 11:47:57 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <66gmpd$dn0@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <668nu2$7v2$1@usenet.kornet.nm.kr> ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: >Hi, >Though I closed the NeXTLaser printer cover, following message pannel >appeard. >"Your printer cover is open!". >Also I heard same voice alert. >What's wrong? My printer is not dead. > > <<<snip>>> If you open the printer the paperholding device (do not know the English word) facing toward you, you should see a small hole 1cm in length and 1/2cm in width about 5cm from right and 5cm from front. This contains IMHO the button, which tells the machine if the cover is open. So first you can look if there is a ca. 2cm long plastic thing at the cover that fits into the hole. You can also fool the system by pressing the plate (in the hole) with something that fits. If this results in the same alerts, maybe the button is damaged... Sorry for the English, but I am in hurry... greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Re: SCSI help Date: 8 Dec 1997 11:58:43 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <66gndj$dn0@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <66f8bn$5o0$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > >I have a new-to-me Fujitsu model #m2694ESA. This was apparently a pretty >common drive a few years back in the NeXT world. > >However, the questions I have are more generic to SCSI issues, of which I am >relatively ignorant. Pointers to SCSI FAQs gladly accepted. > >I found an old reference to the drive which said this: > >The CNH10 jumpers have the following meanings: > >1-2 (reserved) >3-4 Termination power >5-6 Termination power > > >The jumpers are a little weird (to me, at least). They are setup like this: >x x (1-2) >x x (3-4) >x x (5-6) > >Right now the jumpers cover both of them (they are all covered) > >I am not sure whether or not I should have Termination power off or on. > >The drive will be one in a series on the SCSI bus, and will not be the last >one on the chain. > AFAIK you mustn't (yes I mean mustn't, not needn't) give termpower in this case. > > >The same reference said > >The CNH11 jumpers have the following meanings: > >1-2 SCSI ID bit 0 (1) >3-4 SCSI ID bit 1 (2) >5-6 SCSI ID bit 2 (4) >7-8 Write protect on should be IN >9-10 (reserved) should be OUT > >These jumpers are similarly setup as above like this: > >x o 1-2 >x o 3-4 >x o 5-6 >x x 7-8 >o o 9-10 > >Where 'x' indicates a jumper is covered, and 'o' means that a jumper is NOT >covered. > >Questions: > - Can I set the ID to '6' by covered the 3-4 and 5-6 jumpers? yes (according to the fujitsu M2651S...-manual) > - I want to be able to write to the disk, should 7-8 be covered or not? According to my manual (see above), it must be covered. This should be set by the factory. > - What do the 'termination power' settings mean? What should be covered? Normally there are differences in providing power to the IDD SCSI terminating resistor. In your case I would leave them uncovered. > >Thanks for your time. Thanx for peaks :-) > >TjL > <<<snip>>> greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: What sound card is best? Date: 8 Dec 1997 20:23:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu> I am configuring a new system for my office. Can anyone tell me what sound card works best? I'd like the card to record as well as play. Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson Northwestern University
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SOLUTION (Re: Diagnose?? Request Sense command failed / ioctl(SDIOCSRQ): I/O error) Date: 9 Dec 1997 01:48:34 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66i81i$77g$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66gdpc$gnk$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The solution in this case was to bag OpenStep's (IMO lame) disk tools and format the drive using the Adaptec utilities, then running 'init' on the drive from within OS. TjL
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SOLVED (Re: SCSI help) Date: 9 Dec 1997 01:51:45 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66i87h$77g$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66f8bn$5o0$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <348C4CCD.383F@injersey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the advice, and to Robert Worne who 'talk(1)'ed me through the jumper settings late last night. The drive is up and running and working fine. TjL, who still can't believe what a dumb Subject: line he chose for this question... how nondescript can you get????
From: varah@pacbell.net (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What sound card is best? Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 11:28:34 -0700 Organization: Harvard Computer Music Center Distribution: world Message-ID: <varah-0912971128340001@ppp-206-170-32-201.snfc21.pacbell.net> References: <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <66hl0m$h08@news.acns.nwu.edu>, daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I am configuring a new system for my office. Can anyone tell me what sound card works best? > > I'd like the card to record as well as play. > > Thank's in advance, > > David A. Johnson > Northwestern University Hello David, If you just need cheap 16 bit sound, I think most 16 bit cards are okay on the Intel platforms right now, for playback, that is. Sound on Intel used to be (an can still be) hell. Now I think machines are fast enough, and have enough memory that most of that is behind us. We used the old Microsoft Sound System card, or the MediaVision ProAudio Basic, or equiv. For recording, you'll need Bernie Scholz's excellent "SAStudioSound.app" program. The our friend Tomas Hurka wrote a great driver for the Multiwav Pro-18/24 by AdbDigital. So, if you want REALLY good sound, excellent converters, and digital in/out (but not analog in), you can get a Multiwav, and run Tomas' driver. It's about $400 bucks. Otherwise, the other two cards above are fine (in my experience), and SoundBlasters might be okay as well. Midway between these cards is the MediaTrix card, which uses the Microsoft Sound System driver, but has slightly better signal to noise. You can get info on the Multiwav driver from the Harvard Computer Music home page: http://mario.harvard.edu Good luck, Sean Varah -------- Sean Varah Visiting Scholar, CCRMA, Stanford University Associate Director (On leave) Harvard Computer Music Center varah@pacbell.net http://www-mario.harvard.edu/cello/
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SOLVED (Re: SCSI help) Date: 8 Dec 1997 21:50:00 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized... sorry... Message-ID: <66iilo$e18@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <66f8bn$5o0$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <348C4CCD.383F@injersey.com> <66i87h$77g$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please In <66i87h$77g$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Tired of Spam wrote: > > Thanks for the advice, and to Robert Worne who 'talk(1)'ed me through the > jumper settings late last night. The drive is up and running and working > fine. > > TjL, who still can't believe what a dumb Subject: line he chose for this > question... how nondescript can you get???? Hey, no problem at all... And as an added bonus, I found out talk(1) was working.... and here I was for the past 3 years thinking it was busted... -- Headers purposely screwed to avoid spam: rworne(at)primenet(dot)com //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu (Lars A. Stole) Subject: Openstep on IBM Thinkpad 770? Message-ID: <EKxrqE.G3x@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:06:14 GMT Has anyone tried to install Openstep on the new IBM thinkpads (770)? The display chip it uses is Trident Cyber 9397. There is a "generic" Trident driver on the Openstep CD, but nothing speific for the Cyber9397. Besides getting the graphics display driver working, is there anything else which may pose a problem with installing Openstep on a 770 Thinkpad? Any comments appreciated. Thanks.
Message-ID: <348DCFF4.BF40D20B@rit.edu> Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 18:10:44 -0500 From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@rit.edu> Organization: Advanced Systems Integration Laboratory MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer References: <Jean.Thioulouse-0912971611500001@macpave.univ-lyon1.fr> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jean Thioulouse wrote: > > Is it possible to connect a NeXT Laser printer to something else than a > NeXT workstation ? > (i.e., Macintosh, PC, Sun, etc) > > Thanks, > Jean To the best of my knowledge, not without an incredible amount of effort. If you really want to use the printer with another machine, why not pick up an old slab or 030 motherboard, load it up with 32MB of RAM, make the appropriate modifications to run that bad boy headless (someone posted a circuit diagram hereabouts a while back) and VOILA! one of the fastest network printers you'll run across. -Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep on IBM Thinkpad 770? Message-ID: <NRlbVIcnmO+H@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 9 Dec 97 22:41:59 MDT References: <EKxrqE.G3x@midway.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: lars@gsblas.uchicago.edu In <EKxrqE.G3x@midway.uchicago.edu> Lars A. Stole wrote: > Has anyone tried to install Openstep on the new IBM thinkpads (770)? > > The display chip it uses is Trident Cyber 9397. There is a "generic" > Trident driver on the Openstep CD, but nothing speific for the > Cyber9397. > > Besides getting the graphics display driver working, is there > anything else which may pose a problem with installing Openstep on a > 770 Thinkpad? > > Any comments appreciated. Thanks. Please post the result of your inquiry. People are interested!
Message-ID: <348F19E4.13FE1AEA@knox.edu> From: Andrew Leahy <aleahy@knox.edu> Organization: Knox College Mathematics Department MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mounting second partition? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:39:14 GMT NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 18:39:14 EST Hello, We are running NS 3.3 on black hardware and we recently replaced the hard disk with a new Quantum Fireball disk. The drive is > 2 Gig, so NS formats it as two partitions of equal size. I want to mount the second partition as /usr/local, but when I add a line like /dev/sd0b /usr/local 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2 in /etc/fstab, the partition doesn't get loaded (though it will get loaded if I mount the partition by hand). This is quite strange, given that the Sysadmin Manual suggests that a line like this be added to fstab to mount partitions from a second hard drive (with /dev/sd1a instead). Does anybody see anthing I'm doing wrong here? Many thanks. Andrew Leahy aleahy@knox.edu
From: baakre@bulldog1.d.umn.edu (blair aakre) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Help tuning a Sony GDM1604 for Mac Date: 10 Dec 1997 22:28:18 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth Message-ID: <66n522$sr6$1@news.d.umn.edu> Hi, I have an old Sun/Sony GDM1604 monitor that I would like to hook up to my Mac Quadra 660 AV. The monitor uses a seperate connector for sync so it is not a sync on green model. How can I tune the monitor to work with the Mac? I've seen these monitors adverised as being compatible with the mac at 1024X768 resolution at 61.8 KHz horizontal freq and 75Hz vertical. I've got a Mac to vga adaptor that will output that signal and I've got a vga to BNC adaptor to go to the monitor. Your input would be greatly appreciated! Thanks Blair
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mounting second partition? Date: 10 Dec 1997 23:27:58 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66n8hu$513$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <348F19E4.13FE1AEA@knox.edu> Andrew Leahy <aleahy@knox.edu> wrote: > We are running NS 3.3 on black hardware and we recently replaced the > hard disk with a new Quantum Fireball disk. The drive is > 2 Gig, so NS > formats it as two partitions of equal size. I want to mount the second > partition as /usr/local, but when I add a line like > > /dev/sd0b /usr/local 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 2 > > in /etc/fstab, the partition doesn't get loaded (though it will get > loaded if I mount the partition by hand). Remove the 'noauto'. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Tomoaki Ikeda <ikedat@leland.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-ROM & Video Card for NS3.3 Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 20:09:41 -0800 Message-ID: <348F6785.2285@leland.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I am constructing a system for NextStep3.3 and wondering if it would work, especially about CD-ROM and Video Card. CD-ROM : 24X EIDE TOSHIBA XM6102B Video Card : 2MB MATROX Mystique 220 Did anyone have trouble with them? Or do they work well? Thank you for your help. IKEDA, Tomoaki
From: "eddy m" <eddy.m@virgin.net> Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cd.image,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.cde,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.comp.periph.cdrom,de.markt.comp.hardware,dk.edb.hardware,emrl.audio+video.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,fido.hardwa Subject: AUTOPLAY MENU STUDIO Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 23:16:55 -0000 Organization: Virgin Net Usenet Service Message-ID: <66a27o$3m7$1@nclient5-gui.server.virgin.net> TODAY I TRIED THE PACKAGE AUTOPLAY MENU FROM INDIGO-ROSE 1. INFLEXIBLE 2. SIMPLISTIC 3. SHOULD BE SHAREWARE !!! DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY!!!!
From: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@cmg.fcnbd.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AMD K6 vs. P166? Date: 11 Dec 1997 07:49:20 GMT Organization: Steel Driving Software, Chicago Sender: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@isdnjhendry.cmg.fcnbd.com> Message-ID: <66o5u0$6t3@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> Anyone know how OpenStep performs on a 166 MHz K6, compared to a 166 MHz non-MMX Pentium? Thanks, Jon
From: Seamus Dunne <dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP Ghostscript on Slab ->HP II p printer Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:37:51 -0800 Organization: XTCFX Message-ID: <348F984E.D0AFC94F@unixg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mebbe someone can help me: I've tried numerous times to get my NeXT Slab [w NS 3.3] to print through serial port A or B to an Okidata 400e printer, with auto-detection (or manual-select) of its serial or parallel ports--has both. [It emulates an HP II p, which is a *non-postscript* printer.] It prints fine thjrough its parallel port. (Please don't suggest another printer; I'm not going to buy any more hardware, but make what I have now work for me.) Tried various custom-cable make-ups; tried JetPilot (works but slowly!); tried everything we could think of... The Ghostscript authors told me directly that HP II p is supported. Black-NeXT-very-knowledgeable people here have correctly installed Ghostscript on my NeXT. (& they've got GS to print on other machines: Intel/HP II p or Brother combinations, but using parallel port). We believe it's *probably* a cable problem. What I need: 1) a clear cable diagram, to work with my equipment; my pinout diag is below. 2) suggestions re- contents & locations of various ghostscipt file contents---as a check. from the manual: Okidata 400e, 9-pin male Serial port [HP II p emulation] Pin Signal ______________ 1 DCD 2 RD 3 TD 4 DTR 5 Ground 6 DSR 7 RTS 8 CTS 9 Ring Indicator Note: the Okidata control panel allows me to select under 'RS232/ Flow Control' 'DTR High' 'DTR Lo' or 'XON-XOFF' or 'Robust XON' . Usually I'd pick the default: DTR High Thanks in advance! Post to my email please & also to the group. Seamus
From: no@spam.all (no spam please) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Objective-c, .h .a. s. it got a tutorial? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 03:23:32 GMT Message-ID: <34935bb5.177351760@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET Hello, I would like to learn the objective-c language and have downloaded Obc272b.zip (I only have Windows 95). I click on cc1obj.exe and up comes a blank dos screen. I also noticed it has all these files that end in things like .h .a .s etc. (which I assume to be source code files etc.?) Does anyone know of any kind of a hand-holding faq or tutorial or exercise that can get me started on this? Thanks in advance!
From: fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch (Komei Fukuda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT (Sony) Monitor Problem with Color Date: 11 Dec 1997 12:19:30 GMT Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETHZ) Message-ID: <66oloi$jan$1@elna.ethz.ch> A NeXT (Sony, 17") color monitor has been showing some problem recently. It essentially lost the red color. Still, when the monitor is turned on, it works properly for a few minutes, and then the red color disappears. Does anyone have the same problem? Is there any easy way to fix it? Thank you very much for your help, Komei -- Komei Fukuda Institut fur Operations Research ETH Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland fax +41-1-632 1025 tel +41-1-632 4023 or 4028 email:fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch http://www.ifor.math.ethz.ch/staff/fukuda/fukuda.html
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser printer Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 02:48:13 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1112970248130001@dialup14-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <Jean.Thioulouse-0912971611500001@macpave.univ-lyon1.fr> In article <Jean.Thioulouse-0912971611500001@macpave.univ-lyon1.fr>, Jean.Thioulouse@biomserv.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean Thioulouse) wrote: > Is it possible to connect a NeXT Laser printer to something else than a > NeXT workstation ? > (i.e., Macintosh, PC, Sun, etc) > > Thanks, > Jean Not directly. The NeXT Laser Printer interface is totally proprietary, taking advantage of NeXTSTEP's built-in PostScript capabilities to essentially remove all rendering hardware from the printer. While it is theoretically possible for another computer to talk to it, no such solution exists. You should, however, be able to get other machines to print to it so long as they support IP (Unix) printing. The NeXT on-line docs tell you how, basically by making the standard unix printcap file and then importing to NetInfo. On solution that should work regardless, however, is to choose a PostScript laser printer in whatever machine you use, print to a file (it will be a PostScript file), and get it over to a NeXT using FTP or a floppy. From there you can print it with lpr or through Preview.app. It may not be the one step process you had hoped for, but it works, and those printers are cheap! Brendan Bolles
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Objective-c, .h .a. s. it got a tutorial? Date: 11 Dec 1997 13:10:26 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <66ooo4$lbc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <34935bb5.177351760@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> no@spam.all (no spam please) wrote: > >Hello, I would like to learn the objective-c >language and have downloaded Obc272b.zip >(I only have Windows 95). I click on cc1obj.exe >and up comes a blank dos screen. I also noticed >it has all these files that end in things like .h .a >.s etc. (which I assume to be source code files etc.?) >Does anyone know of any kind of a hand-holding faq >or tutorial or exercise that can get me started on this? >Thanks in advance! .h = header .a = library .s = assemply-code (?) never thought of doing ObjC on W95, but for the language itself there are some tutorials on http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/ and http://www.peak.org/next/ greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT printer cable Date: 11 Dec 1997 16:29:10 GMT Organization: AE/EM Distribution: world Message-ID: <66p4cm$ne7$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We were in the process of hooking up a NeXTstation to a NeXT laser printer and found out that we are missing the printer cable. Does any one have the pin diagram for this cable? We would like to make our own cable, is there a limit to the length of the printer cable? Reuben Reyes Learning Resource Center Department of Aerospace Engineering and Engineering Mechanics University of Texas at Austin E-Mail: reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Can not repair a damaged floppy disk!! Message-ID: <EL1A81.4D0@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:38:25 GMT Hi, my Intel/Pentium machine crashed and left a damaged floppy disk. When I tried to use the disk after reboot, I got the error message from the console: --- /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rfd0a /dev/rfd0a: PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=52 /dev/rfd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. [try one more time...] /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rfd0a /dev/rfd0a: PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=52 /dev/rfd0a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. ---- When I tried to "fsck" the floppy from the shell, it did not work. I do want to get some data out of this floppy. What else can I do? Do I need to get into root and repair it in single-user mode or something else? Thanks for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: zander@rkinc.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Subject: 60 ns SIMMs on Turbo system with ROM 3.3 v74 Message-ID: <EL1Ap1.GBw@data-io.com> Sender: news@data-io.com (Usenet news) Organization: News Server at Data I/O, Seattle Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:48:37 GMT Hi, Could somebody please confirm that ROM 3.3 v74 could handle 60 ns SIMMs apropriately? I know that it will run then on 70 ns. I am worried that it moght slow down to 100 ns. Well, on power up I've got "CPU 68040, memory 60ns" message. What is that supposed to mean? Does it mean that I've got 040 board that supports 60 ns SIMMs. Thanks, Aleksey
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Can not repair a damaged floppy disk!! Date: 11 Dec 1997 18:13:32 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66pagc$513$10@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <EL1A81.4D0@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: [ ... ] > When I tried to "fsck" the floppy from the shell, it did not work. > > I do want to get some data out of this floppy. What else can I do? > Do I need to get into root and repair it in single-user mode > or something else? Maybe you used the '-p' flag when running fsck manually? Don't. :-) You can also try using the '-b 16' option to use an alternate superblock, and that might help.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: What SRAM will work with NeXT DSP? Message-ID: <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:44:19 GMT Hi, I just wonder if any of the SRAM will fit the RAM slot of the under-utilized NeXT DSP. I know you can not do so much about the DSP, but just curious. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: zander@moscow.rkinc.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Subject: How to get to ROM monitor on ADB Turbo Color Message-ID: <EL18oF.F8u@data-io.com> Sender: news@data-io.com (Usenet news) Organization: News Server at Data I/O, Seattle Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 16:05:03 GMT Hi, I've got a new Turbo Color slab that I cannot boot, because I cannot change boot parameter. Could someone please tell me how to get to ROM monitor with ADB keyboard that has only one control key (right bellow space key) and ~ key is not on the numeric keypad? Please reply to zander@rkinc.com Thanks, Aleksey
From: wonjlee@earthlink.net (Won Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone need a complete Cube system w/printer? Date: 9 Dec 1997 07:18:19 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <wonjlee-0912970226050001@1cust65.max80.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net> I have a NextCUBE system with 12MB RAM and 350MB HD. Its optical drive is working very well. I have 2 od media as well. The keyboard and the mouse are both in great condition and the 17" MegaPixel BW monitor is also in excellent condition. The 400dpi NextLaser printer is still printing like it's new. The system installed on it is version 2.1. (yes, old), but it also has a lot of software on it, like FrameMaker, WingZ, and SoftPC, in addititon to software that I believe came standard with the system like WriteNow. The reason I would prefer a NYC area buyer is that these are very heavy machines and I don't have original boxes. I'd hate to lug these around. I am asking $350 for the whole setup. I would really prefer to sell the whole setup. I know the printer is a popular item, whereas the box may not be. But as you know, I don't need one without the other. If outside NYC area, I want $425 plus shipping, just because I need to get six large boxes (UPS will not let me ship computers without original boxes unless they're doubleboxed) and tons of protective inserts, not to mention hours of my time. I believe shipping via cheapest UPS rate will be around $50. This really is a great machine who deserves a good owner. Unfortunately, I don't know much about NextStep and the last time I actually used it (other than turning it on to see if it still works) was more than eight months ago. Won Lee
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 12 Dec 1997 01:14:38 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <66q35u$pnk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> My printer has recently been refusing to push the paper out all the way - I believe the common wisdom is that this is due to a melted gear in the rear of the printer somewhere. I recall some time ago someone mentioning that there is supplier for the parts, and that there is a set of instructions how to install them out on the net somewhere, but I have looked in Nextanswers, FAQs and the archives and have been unable to find them. Can anyone point me to the needed info? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Don Petcher
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,sci.electronics.repair Subject: Re: NeXT (Sony) Monitor Problem with Color Date: 12 Dec 1997 02:56:19 GMT Organization: Spontaneous Freelance Network Consulting, UnInc. Message-ID: <66q94j$fop@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <66oloi$jan$1@elna.ethz.ch> [crossposted to sci.electronics.repair] Komei Fukuda (fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch) wrote: : : A NeXT (Sony, 17") color monitor has been showing some problem : recently. It essentially lost the red color. Still, when : the monitor is turned on, it works properly for a few minutes, : and then the red color disappears. Does anyone have the same : problem? Is there any easy way to fix it? It sounds like a component controlling the red gun is overheating and failing(possibly a transistor? solder connection?) Is the failure sudden or slow? I've never seen this exact problem before, but something tells me that the fix will involve a bit of soldering. : : Thank you very much for your help, Komei : : -- : Komei Fukuda : Institut fur Operations Research : ETH Zentrum, CH-8092 Zurich, Switzerland : fax +41-1-632 1025 tel +41-1-632 4023 or 4028 : email:fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch : http://www.ifor.math.ethz.ch/staff/fukuda/fukuda.html -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| .Sigfile freshness date: 12/1/97 Did you vote? 7.7% for Bob: <http://www.wtv.net/trustee/>
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 12 Dec 1997 01:47:57 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66q54d$auq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66q35u$pnk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu I think the information you need can be found at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT printer cable Date: 12 Dec 1997 02:36:56 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Distribution: world Message-ID: <66q808$j72$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <66p4cm$ne7$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Cc: In article <66p4cm$ne7$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, <reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu> wrote: >We were in the process of hooking up a NeXTstation to a NeXT laser printer >and found out that we are missing the printer cable. Does any one have >the pin diagram for this cable? We would like to make our own cable, is >there a limit to the length of the printer cable? Eventhough many people said don't do that, but I've got good luck using regular 9-pin to 9-pin straight serial cable, 10 feet long. Good luck, Paulus
From: Brian R Bias <brian@whetstone.com> To: brian@whetstone.com Subject: Dell PowerEdge Server2200 OS4.2 ATIMach64 driver? Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 23:02:22 -0600 Message-ID: <881896321.1146748930@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service I am loading OpenStep 4.2 on a Dell PowerEdge 2200 server. It has a 1MB ATI-Mach64/PCI built in, I'm getting ATIMach64 device not found on re-boot messages. Any ideas? Thanks, - Brian Bias Whetstone, Inc. brian@whetstone.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT (Sony) Monitor Problem with Color Date: 12 Dec 1997 00:08:00 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized... sorry... Message-ID: <66qnsg$9qb@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <66oloi$jan$1@elna.ethz.ch> <66q94j$fop@crcnis3.unl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu In <66q94j$fop@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > > [crossposted to sci.electronics.repair] > Komei Fukuda (fukuda@ifor.math.ethz.ch) wrote: > : > : A NeXT (Sony, 17") color monitor has been showing some problem > : recently. It essentially lost the red color. Still, when > : the monitor is turned on, it works properly for a few minutes, > : and then the red color disappears. Does anyone have the same > : problem? Is there any easy way to fix it? > > It sounds like a component controlling the red gun is overheating and > failing(possibly a transistor? solder connection?) > > Is the failure sudden or slow? > > I've never seen this exact problem before, but something tells me that the > fix will involve a bit of soldering. My Hitachi 21" did that. Try jiggling the video cable in the back of the monitor or CPU. Do this gently. if the colors switch from normal to the messed-up type, you may ned to reseat the cables or tighten them further. Of course the previous reply might be more in line with the problem, but best to try the simple things first. -- Headers purposely screwed to avoid spam: rworne(at)primenet(dot)com //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory again. Date: 12 Dec 1997 07:31:45 GMT Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee Message-ID: <66qp91$63l$1@news.duke.edu> Hi, I may have missed the answer to my previous question. I need to know whether 4x3 SIMMs will work on my NeXTStation. I know I can run both parity and non, but not to mix them. The question is, what is 4x3? and can I use them? -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. - motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere
From: please@no.uce.com (please@no.uce.com) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Objective-c, .h .a. s. it got a tutorial? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 04:38:56 GMT Message-ID: <34a08697.253878922@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <34935bb5.177351760@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <66ooo4$lbc@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET I found one for objective-c! kind of nice, actually: http://www.slip.net/~dekorte/Objective-C/New/GettingStarted/GettingStarted.html On 11 Dec 1997 13:10:26 GMT, sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) wrote: >http://www.peak.org/next/
From: fikkert@mediaport.org (x< MegC >x) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,biz.comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fido.belg.fra.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,it.comp.hardware Subject: Need help with Digital monitor !!!!!!! Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:44:50 GMT Organization: World Online Message-ID: <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the following problem ........ I have a old but nice Digital 19" monitor with RGB connections at the back (3 connections not 5) As fare as I now is this a fixed sync monitor with sync over green. Technical data : Name : Digital model : VR 290 - D3 Hz : 50 - 60 W : 150 V : ~ 200 - 240 A : 0.75 Date of manufacture : July 1988 Question : Is it possible to make a converter that converts the SVGA signals from a standard Svga-card (and connection) to a fixed sync with sync over green, so that I can use the monitor on a normal PC with a normal SVGA-card and Windows95 or Linux. Or are there cards that can be used with this type of monitor. Of course all other idea's are welcome. You can mail at : fikkert@mediaport.org or B.Fikkert@usa.net Thanks for taking the time to read this message and finding a solution. B.F.F. Fikkert Netherlands
From: fukuda@dma.epfl.ch (Komei Fukuda) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT (Sony) Monitor Problem with Color References: <66q94j$fop@crcnis3.unl.edu> Message-ID: <34912904.0@epflnews.epfl.ch> Date: 12 Dec 97 12:07:32 GMT Organization: EPFL In article <66q94j$fop@crcnis3.unl.edu> 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) writes: > > It sounds like a component controlling the red gun is overheating and > failing(possibly a transistor? solder connection?) > > Is the failure sudden or slow? This failure is sudden. It is not the problem with cable since the color station with the same cable works perfectly with another monitor. So it seems I should check transistors controlling the red gun, as suggested by Josh, and also by Jerry Greenberg via e-mail. I will report the result. Komei P.S. Already four people have responded to my posting, that I appreciate very much.
From: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,biz.comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fido.belg.fra.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,it.comp.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> Control: cancel <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 13:07:19 MET Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Sender: fikkert@mediaport.org (x< MegC >x) Message-ID: <cancel.3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> Article retromoderated by the RTFM-'bot for alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt See the FAQ for a.c.h.h. for details, or contact achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl .
From: jturner@wcc.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,biz.comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fido.belg.fra.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,it.comp.hardware Subject: Re: Need help with Digital monitor !!!!!!! Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:49:44 GMT Organization: WCC Message-ID: <349130cf.81705525@news.wcc.net> References: <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:44:50 GMT, fikkert@mediaport.org (x< MegC >x) wrote: > >I have the following problem ........ > >I have a old but nice Digital 19" monitor with RGB connections at the >back (3 connections not 5) >As fare as I now is this a fixed sync monitor with sync over green. > <snip> >Question : > Is it possible to make a converter that converts the SVGA > signals from a standard Svga-card (and connection) to a fixed > sync with sync over green, so that I can use the monitor on a > normal PC with a normal SVGA-card and Windows95 or Linux. > Or are there cards that can be used with this type of monitor. > There are companies that make special video cards that will work with your fixed frequency monitor. The following are 2 of them. http://www.mirage-mmc.com/ http://www.photonweb.com/ The cards are pricey but work very well. Considering the cost of the monitor, and the quality of the end result, they are worth it. >Of course all other idea's are welcome. > >You can mail at : > > fikkert@mediaport.org or B.Fikkert@usa.net > > >Thanks for taking the time to read this message and finding a >solution. > >B.F.F. Fikkert >Netherlands Hope this helps. Myrrdin
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 12 Dec 1997 16:20:06 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <66ro7m$fe3$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <66q35u$pnk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <66q54d$auq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <66q54d$auq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Tired of Spam <No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please> wrote: > >I think the information you need can be found at > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > >TjL > >-- >My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is >not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. >This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. >Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org > Can you be more specific? I did look around at peak and at peanuts, but haven't been able to find the info yet. Thanks. --Don
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HD for my Turbo Slab? Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:11:16 -0700 Organization: Blues Industrial Message-ID: <jak-1212971111170001@sss1-01.inre.asu.edu> My (stripped) mono Turbo slab is on the way, and I'm hoping the spare Quantum LPS 240 I have (pulled from a Performa) will work in it. Anyone know? It can handle the async data transfer (according to Quantum's site), but it'll have to be terminated, right? Damn, it has to use resistor packs. But will it even work? Can I even install OS 4.2 on 230 MBs? thanks john -- --- - ------- ------- And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PowerMac + 21" NeXT Color Monitor + Rhapsody? Date: 12 Dec 1997 17:53:13 GMT Message-ID: <66rtm9$q3s$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Fry's is offering a headless Power Mac (6400/200MHz) for $999. Can I hook up a NeXT 21" color monitor and install the Rhapsody Developer Pre-release on such a system? Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks for responding, Ed -- Edward N. Zalta Senior Research Scholar, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 12 Dec 1997 21:04:42 GMT Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee Message-ID: <66s8ta$dj7$1@news.duke.edu> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <34826460.794B@de.ibm.com> <65usbb$75e$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger (cswiger@blacksmith.com) wrote: : Selling a product below cost means you lose money-- and the higher your volume, : the faster you lose money. Trying to sell below price in order to put a : competitor out of business is illegal, as is artificially bolstering sales of some : other product by "tieing" it to the one you're dumping. Actually, You've got to qualify that first statement when talking about software (or any other commodity with significant "sunk" or startup costs). Basically, if NeXT was selling NS for below the cost of media and printing docs and shipping/packaging, then it would be losing money on every piece going out. If the price were above those costs (the marginal cost of each unit), then it would be cutting into the sunk costs (which in the software world greatly exceed any variable/marginal costs). At what speed it cut into the sunk costs with a low price would be affected by how quickly demand would rise with a price drop. Most successfull companies operate on low-price, high-volume. They may not make the best products, but they reach the most people (this is why Mr. Ford was a gizzilionaire and Mr. Royce was not). The question is whether NS (and the other Unix vendors) want to remain speciality OSs or enter the consumer world. I personally think NS is too good to keep it for a select few. I think the price for Rhapsody should be around the price for Mac OS8, approx $100. That way it will seem like a viable platform for the consumer. Hell, people may even buy the OS just to get the elegance (Win95 is still _ugly_, much uglier than MacOS, and positively misshapen next to NeXT), after all, at $100 it'll be a third the price of Word. A Mac Cube with a G3 in it would rock would it not? -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ It is better to never have tried anything than to have tried something and failed. - motto of jerks, weenies and losers everywhere
From: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu (Donald N. Petcher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 12 Dec 1997 21:23:07 GMT Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <66s9vr$ipl$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> References: <66q35u$pnk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <66q54d$auq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <66ro7m$fe3$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <66s384$mmg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <66s384$mmg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Tired of Spam <No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please> wrote: >In <66ro7m$fe3$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote: >> Tired of Spam <No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please> wrote: >> > >> >I think the information you need can be found at >> > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ >> >> Can you be more specific? I did look around at peak and at peanuts, but >> haven't been able to find the info yet. Thanks. > > >Did you load the page above? That's not the generic PEAK page, it's my >NeXTStep page. > >There's a very clear little icon which shows the NeXT printer, and underneath >it is the words 'Printer Info' > Thanks loads! Yes it is there. Sorry about mistaking your page for the archive site. It's because I wasn't aware of the page, and now I am very glad that you told me about it! Thanks again. Your service to the next community is much appreciated. >If you use lynx try that URL with 'index-noframe.html' at the end. > >TjL > >-- >My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is >not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. >This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. >Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org > --Don
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 12 Dec 1997 19:28:04 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66s384$mmg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66q35u$pnk$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> <66q54d$auq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <66ro7m$fe3$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: petcher@howdy.wustl.edu In <66ro7m$fe3$1@newsreader.wustl.edu> Donald N. Petcher wrote: > Tired of Spam <No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please> wrote: > > > >I think the information you need can be found at > > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > > Can you be more specific? I did look around at peak and at peanuts, but > haven't been able to find the info yet. Thanks. Did you load the page above? That's not the generic PEAK page, it's my NeXTStep page. There's a very clear little icon which shows the NeXT printer, and underneath it is the words 'Printer Info' If you use lynx try that URL with 'index-noframe.html' at the end. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 12 Dec 1997 21:29:15 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <66sabb$513$17@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <34826460.794B@de.ibm.com> <65usbb$75e$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <66s8ta$dj7$1@news.duke.edu> sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) wrote: > Chuck Swiger (cswiger@blacksmith.com) wrote: >: Selling a product below cost means you lose money-- and the higher your volume, >: the faster you lose money. Trying to sell below price in order to put a >: competitor out of business is illegal, as is artificially bolstering sales of some >: other product by "tieing" it to the one you're dumping. > > Actually, You've got to qualify that first statement when talking about > software (or any other commodity with significant "sunk" or startup > costs). Basically, if NeXT was selling NS for below the cost of media > and printing docs and shipping/packaging, then it would be losing money > on every piece going out. If the price were above those costs (the > marginal cost of each unit), then it would be cutting into the sunk > costs (which in the software world greatly exceed any variable/marginal > costs). I recognize someone whose had economics. You're using their jargon and are thus more concise, but I was trying to explain to someone who "just didn't get it" why pricing something below it's marginal cost is not a viable business strategy. :-) > At what speed it cut into the sunk costs with a low price would > be affected by how quickly demand would rise with a price drop. Elasticity of demand, yes. > Most successful companies operate on low-price, high-volume. That depends very much upon how you define "successful". It's quite possible to ship a high-price, low volume product that is successful not just in terms of profit, but it terms of advancing the industry and popular recognition. Consider Pixar's RenderMan product, used in "Toy Story". [ ... ] > I personally think NS is too good to keep it for a select few. I think the price > for Rhapsody should be around the price for Mac OS8, approx $100. That way it will seem > like a viable platform for the consumer. Hell, people may even buy the OS just to get > the elegance (Win95 is still _ugly_, much uglier than MacOS, and positively misshapen > next to NeXT), after all, at $100 it'll be a third the price of Word. I suspect Apple will price Rhapsody somewhat higher than the MacOS-- probably along the lines of NT Workstation. It'd be nice if they tried to aim for as much mass-market acceptance as they possibly can, but I'll happily take whatever I can get with regard to the size of Rhapsody's user base. > A Mac Cube with a G3 in it would rock would it not? Yes yes yes! -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keyboard pins for NeXTstation Color Date: 12 Dec 1997 22:24:15 GMT Organization: AE/EM Distribution: world Message-ID: <66sdif$edc$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I was given a "NeXTstation color" black pizza box. It came with no monitor. It has a keyboard and mouse. I was able to test the keyboard/mouse on a NeXTstation by plugging it into the back of the mono monitor. I read on the Internet that there is a way to hook up a multisync monitor to the "NeXTstation color" however i don't know where to plug in the keyboard on the "NeXTstation color". Does any one have any information on what pins go to the keyboard and what pins are for sound on the "NeXTstation color"? Reuben
From: sam@stdavids.picker.com (Sam Goldwasser) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homedesigned,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,biz.comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fido.belg.fra.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,it.comp.hardware Subject: Re: Need help with Digital monitor !!!!!!! Date: 13 Dec 1997 02:03:54 GMT Organization: OARnet Message-ID: <SAM.97Dec12210354@colossus.stdavids.picker.com> References: <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> In-reply-to: fikkert@mediaport.org's message of Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:44:50 GMT See the various fixed frequency monitor FAQs at the site below for general info. Yes, you can build a circuit but you need to drive it with the correct scan rates - converting those is very non-trivial. --- sam : Sci.Electronics.Repair FAQ: http://www.repairfaq.org/ In article <3491072c.2399770@news.worldonline.nl> fikkert@mediaport.org (x< MegC >x) writes: I have the following problem ........ I have a old but nice Digital 19" monitor with RGB connections at the back (3 connections not 5) As fare as I now is this a fixed sync monitor with sync over green. Technical data : Name : Digital model : VR 290 - D3 Hz : 50 - 60 W : 150 V : ~ 200 - 240 A : 0.75 Date of manufacture : July 1988 Question : Is it possible to make a converter that converts the SVGA signals from a standard Svga-card (and connection) to a fixed sync with sync over green, so that I can use the monitor on a normal PC with a normal SVGA-card and Windows95 or Linux. Or are there cards that can be used with this type of monitor. Of course all other idea's are welcome. You can mail at : fikkert@mediaport.org or B.Fikkert@usa.net Thanks for taking the time to read this message and finding a solution. B.F.F. Fikkert Netherlands
From: Sharron Lytwyn <lytwyn@smartt.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: S3 refresh rate -- found utility! Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 08:34:38 -0800 Organization: KTK Communications Ltd. (SmarttNet, http://www.smartt.com) Message-ID: <348D731E.53AB@smartt.com> References: <srampazzo-2911972345530001@padova12-14.tin.it> <668gu8$1iu@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Arne Sieg wrote: > > srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) wrote: > >I'm running Openstep 4.2 and Rhapsody for PC compatibles on my Pentium > >system equipped with an S3 trio64+ video card (S3 generic PCI Display > >Driver). > >Unfortunately I am not able to set a refresh rate > 60Hz. > We have the same card and the same problem, but no solution. If you find one, > please let me know or post it. > > -- > Arne Sieg > +++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++ > "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an > extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- I too, have encountered this problem and found a utility called Quickcolor that (with some fiddling) allowed me to set my preferred refresh rate (85 MHz). It is available at: http://www.entechtaiwan.com/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: ND and ECC RAM Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKwn2z.HJE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 04:28:11 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Will the ND grok ECC (2M x 40) SIMMs? I would guess not but I figure I should ask...I have a bunch of this RAM sitting here that could do more for me that it is right now. Thanks in advance. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What SRAM will work with NeXT DSP? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EL2znL.JE5@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:45:20 GMT References: <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu>, Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >Hi, I just wonder if any of the SRAM will fit the RAM slot of the >under-utilized NeXT DSP. I know you can not do so much about the >DSP, but just curious. Thanks. > It's not a standard connector; you need a special board to go in there. You *might* be able to find one, but I doubt it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerMac + 21" NeXT Color Monitor + Rhapsody? Date: 13 Dec 1997 08:46:38 GMT Message-ID: <19971213084601.DAA06346@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <66rtm9$q3s$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Im wondering about this myself as the local Office Max is selling their remaining stock of 6400's (16meg 1.2(?)HD 200 MHZ) for 899.00 with a 15in apple monitor. but I have a feeling that the answer will be that Rhapsody wont run on the 6400. I think that the next 17in monitor can be adapted to a mac but not the 21in. does anyone have any opinions of the 6400? is it as bad as some say?
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to get to ROM monitor on ADB Turbo Color Date: 13 Dec 1997 08:56:11 GMT Message-ID: <19971213085601.DAA06741@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <EL18oF.F8u@data-io.com> Left alternate key command bar and the ~ key which is NOT on the numeric keypad.(guess you noticed) You can hold down the bar and the left alt key while its starting up and when you here the "boop" hit the tilde. I always wondred what the hell I was doing wrong and why I couldnt get mine to go into the ROM monitor. Good luck
From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video Subject: Re: S3 refresh rate -- found utility! Date: 13 Dec 1997 12:32:49 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <66tv9h$2i2@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <srampazzo-2911972345530001@padova12-14.tin.it> <668gu8$1iu@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> <348D731E.53AB@smartt.com> Sharron Lytwyn <lytwyn@smartt.com> wrote: >Arne Sieg wrote: >> >> srampazzo@windnet.it (Stefano Rampazzo) wrote: >> >I'm running Openstep 4.2 and Rhapsody for PC compatibles on my Pentium >> >system equipped with an S3 trio64+ video card (S3 generic PCI Display >> >Driver). >> >Unfortunately I am not able to set a refresh rate > 60Hz. >> We have the same card and the same problem, but no solution. If you find one, >> please let me know or post it. > >I too, have encountered this problem and found a utility called >Quickcolor that (with some fiddling) allowed me to set my preferred >refresh rate (85 MHz). > >It is available at: http://www.entechtaiwan.com/ Does the card remember the refresh-rate? As I see it, I have to go to WindowsNT to switch the rate. Or is there a Quickcolor for Next/Openstep? -- Arne Sieg +++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++ "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SOLVED (Re: SCSI help) Date: 9 Dec 1997 15:26:38 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <66jnve$cio$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <66f8bn$5o0$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <348C4CCD.383F@injersey.com> <66i87h$77g$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <66iilo$e18@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <66iilo$e18@nntp02.primenet.com> Robert Worne wrote: > Hey, no problem at all... And as an added bonus, I found out talk(1) was > working.... and here I was for the past 3 years thinking it was busted... It does do some odd things at times. A friend of mine logged in one day and later emailed me a message which said something like: --- ``I logged in earlier, saw you were logged in and tried to talk(1) to you. It said You don't exist. Go away. Sounds like one of Steve Jobs' programmers was an ex-girlfriend of mine. I had flashbacks the rest of the night.'' --- For those with similar ex-girlfriend complexes, I highly recommend 'why talk' (aka 'ytalk' ;-) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/misc/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT printer cable Message-ID: <EL5r0D.HoH@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <66q808$j72$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 02:31:25 GMT In article <66q808$j72$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > In article <66p4cm$ne7$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, > <reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu> wrote: > >We were in the process of hooking up a NeXTstation to a NeXT > >laser printer and found out that we are missing the printer > >cable. Does any one have the pin diagram for this cable? We > >would like to make our own cable, is there a limit to the length > >of the printer cable? > > Eventhough many people said don't do that, but I've got good luck > using regular 9-pin to 9-pin straight serial cable, 10 feet long. > Sometimes it works, sometimes not. The interface is a high speed synchronous cirquit. If the cable happens to be good enough... Otherwise print quality will be poor or the printer fails outright. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <2329881470822@digifix.com> Date: 14 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <18578882075626@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Keyboard pins for NeXTstation Color Date: 14 Dec 1997 08:14:39 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Distribution: world Message-ID: <mrb-1412970018540001@dialup68-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <66sdif$edc$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> In article <66sdif$edc$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, reyes@orion.ae.utexas.edu wrote: > I was given a "NeXTstation color" black pizza box. It came with no monitor. > It has a keyboard and mouse. I was able to test the keyboard/mouse on a > NeXTstation by plugging it into the back of the mono monitor. I read on > the Internet that there is a way to hook up a multisync monitor to the > "NeXTstation color" however i don't know where to plug in the keyboard > on the "NeXTstation color". Does any one have any information on what > pins go to the keyboard and what pins are for sound on the "NeXTstation color"? > > Reuben As with the mono NeXTstation, the keyboard and sound signals essentially come out of the slab's monitor port. The same is true for the color systems, but none of the color monitors have sound or keyboard-out capabilities (like your multisync), so they come with a different cable that comes out of the slab's monitor port and splits in two. One side goes to the monitor, while the other goes to a NeXT "Sound Box" that has a speaker, sound ports, and the keyboard port. So, if you're going to hook up a MultiSync monitor, the adapter would go on the video side of this split cable. You'll need to order the cable itself and a Sound Box (make sure you get the right one for your keyboard - sounds like you have a non-ADB) to get it all working. Brendan Bolles
From: "Herve Leroy" <olo@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next hardware for SALE - Paris in France !!! Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 09:32:58 +0100 Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <6705eb$lni$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> Next cube 400 Meg 17" B&W screen + laser printer my email : olo@club-internet.fr
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerMac + 21" NeXT Color Monitor + Rhapsody? Date: 14 Dec 1997 08:54:28 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1412970058280001@dialup68-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <66rtm9$q3s$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <19971213084601.DAA06346@ladder02.news.aol.com> In article <19971213084601.DAA06346@ladder02.news.aol.com>, markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) wrote: > Im wondering about this myself as the local Office Max is selling their > remaining stock of 6400's (16meg 1.2(?)HD 200 MHZ) for 899.00 with a 15in apple > monitor. but I have a feeling that the answer will be that Rhapsody wont run on > the 6400. I think that the next 17in monitor can be adapted to a mac but not > the 21in. > > does anyone have any opinions of the 6400? is it as bad as some say? A 6400 should be able to run Rhapsody. When Apple acquired NeXT, they said that every machine from then on would be able to run it, which includes the 6400's. Of course, Apple hasn't exactly kept every one of their promises. On the other hand, I don't see why it wouldn't. Any PPC certainly has the power and the boys at NeXT managed to get out a bunch of PC drivers for OPENSTEP. Adapting to the reletively modest number of Mac systems shouldn't be a problem. I have heard of people running 21" monitors on their Macs. If you can do it with a 17", I don't see why a 21" would be any different - they use the same connection. As for the 6400's, they're not the most attractive Macs ever, and they use the 603e as opposed to a 604e, but they are PPC Macs. At 200MHz, they definitely perform, and $900 is pretty good, especially with a monitor. Brendan Bolles
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What SRAM will work with NeXT DSP? Date: 14 Dec 1997 09:01:14 GMT Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1412970105340001@dialup68-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu>, tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: > Hi, I just wonder if any of the SRAM will fit the RAM slot of the > under-utilized NeXT DSP. I know you can not do so much about the > DSP, but just curious. Thanks. The NeXT FAQ says that San Francisco State University made something to go inside, but that was a while ago, and I'd be surprised if they were still selling it. In any case, here's the URL for the FAQ answer: <http://peanuts.leo.org/peanuts/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.118.html> Doesn't seem to be much point of it, anyway. These guys were doing custom speech recognition development using the DSP, but I don't know of any available software that benefits from more DSP memory. Brendan Bolles
From: Jean.Thioulouse@biomserv.univ-lyon1.fr (Jean Thioulouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser printer Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 16:11:50 +0100 Organization: Laboratoire de Biometrie - Universite Lyon 1 Message-ID: <Jean.Thioulouse-0912971611500001@macpave.univ-lyon1.fr> Is it possible to connect a NeXT Laser printer to something else than a NeXT workstation ? (i.e., Macintosh, PC, Sun, etc) Thanks, Jean
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use a removable hard drive with Openstep? Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 04:54:32 GMT Message-ID: <34956679.10218122@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET I currently run Windoze 95 and would also like to run Openstep 4.2 ("Openstep for the intel" or is it "Openstep for the Mach"? -the one without WindowsNT). I have a 4 gig hard drive installed. I really don't want to go through the nightmare of trying to get two operating systems to work! I was thinking of one strategy: getting one of those removable hard drives. I am wondering if anyone else has done/does this? One other option would be the Iomega "Jazz" drive (though I swore I would never buy another thing from Iomega). Has any body ever done any of these? plese respond in the newsgroup. Thank you.
From: gerry@wright.iba (Gerry Brush) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel or G3 Date: 10 Dec 1997 11:23:23 GMT Organization: Oxford University Message-ID: <66lu3b$aq6$1@news.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm in the market for a new OpenStep machine, but I may still need to run some Windows statistical software. I've got the usual Intel choice for dual booting, but I have a small point of confusion here. NeXT's compatibility guide does not mention Pentium II processors. Does OpenStep/Rhapsody run on Pentium IIs? Even if it does, is this a good choice over a Pentium Pro? Can one buy off the shelf systems these days, eg Dell, which seem to be only Pentium IIs, and hope to run either NS 3.3 or OS 4.2? An alternative system is a G3: good for Rhapsody but what about Windows software? I here VirtualPC is not bad, but I've not seen it on a G3 and wonder how it truly performs. Has anyone used it extensively that would care to comment? I will need accesses to a smooth, fast Windows environment. Can Virtual PC deliver? Thanks for any help. Gerry -- Gerry Brush Institute of Biological Anthropology University of Oxford 58 Banbury Road Oxford OX2 6QS, UK Tel: +44-1865-274695 Fax: +44-1865-274699 Email gerry.brush@bioanth.ox.ac.uk
From: Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Misc Qs on NeXTStation Color Turbo Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 23:56:38 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton Inc. Message-ID: <349401B1.14AB6E4E@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm considering getting a NeXTStation Color Turbo (here after as NSCT; I know it might not be fast... I like the design), I have a few questions here, I would really appreciated if someone can answer them for me (a Mac user): 1. Is the NeXT Cube Color Turbo (NCCT) faster than the NSCT? 2. What will the Dimension board really do (acceleration?) 3. How much is the maximum memory that can a NSCT take? I think NSCT uses 72-pin SIMM right, so it can takes 128M (32M x 4)? 4. Where can I find the NeXT modem cable schematic? Many thanks in advance, Tim Chong (MIME mail OK)
From: "Stephen J. Fralich" <sfralich@mesa.ml.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Removable Storage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:43:30 -0500 Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY (USA) Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable medium available for them? If so where can I find it? I have also read that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. Where can I find an internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? Basically I am buying a NeXTcube just to play around with, but chances are I will screw up something along the way and have to reinstall the OS. I want to be able to do this either by reinstalling off the CD or restoring from some backup source. If you can answer any of these questions please respond. Thanks, Stephen --------------------------------------------- Stephen J. Fralich sfralich@mesa.ml.org Mesa Systems http://mesa.ml.org/
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Misc Qs on NeXTStation Color Turbo Date: 14 Dec 1997 20:06:08 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <671e7g$i1s$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <349401B1.14AB6E4E@bah.com> Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm considering getting a NeXTStation Color Turbo (here after as NSCT; I know >it might not be fast... I like the design), I have a few questions here, I >would really appreciated if someone can answer them for me (a Mac user): > >1. Is the NeXT Cube Color Turbo (NCCT) faster than the NSCT? The two boards run at 33mhz. I believe they both have the same optimizations. >2. What will the Dimension board really do (acceleration?) >3. How much is the maximum memory that can a NSCT take? I think NSCT uses >72-pin SIMM right, > so it can takes 128M (32M x 4)? Not sure about these. >4. Where can I find the NeXT modem cable schematic? http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 14 Dec 1997 20:15:52 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <671epo$i1s$3@brie.direct.ca> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> I've been using a Zip drive with NextStep and others have used a Jaz, but the Jaz requires a little extra information available at NextAnswers. Internal CD-Rom support sounds reasonable given proper cabling and a bay on the front of the cube that would give access to the drive. I don't have a cube to know the details. Open it to figure it out. Most SCSI CD-Rom drives should give you data access, but likely not cd audio access. A few can give audio access. "Stephen J. Fralich" <sfralich@mesa.ml.org> wrote: >I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube >to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube >Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable >medium available for them? If so where can I find it? I have also read >that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. Where can I find an >internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and >an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? > >Basically I am buying a NeXTcube just to play around with, but chances are >I will screw up something along the way and have to reinstall the OS. I >want to be able to do this either by reinstalling off the CD or restoring >from some backup source. If you can answer any of these questions please >respond. > >Thanks, >Stephen > >--------------------------------------------- >Stephen J. Fralich sfralich@mesa.ml.org >Mesa Systems http://mesa.ml.org/ >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: ernst@fritz.Xsnafu.de (Ernst Kloecker) Subject: Driver for Symbios 8751SP SCSI controller ? Message-ID: <EL76A5.7yt@fritz.snafu.de> Sender: news@fritz.snafu.de Organization: Software Engineering Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 20:58:50 GMT Does anybody know whether the Symbios SCSI driver which comes with Openstep or Rhapsody would support the later Symbios models like the ultra-wide SYM 8751 SP ? I am in the process of purchasing a new Intel system and would like to stay with Symbios, because I never had any problems with the Symbios 53c810 which I am using now and also because I would like to be able to boot from the drives which were formatted with the old Symbios controller. Cheers, Ernst. (Please remove 'X' in email address to reply) --- Ernst Kloecker ernst@fritz.Xsnafu.de
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help to network Cube and NT4.0 PC Date: 10 Dec 1997 16:08:48 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <66meqh$ckn$1@dropit.pgh.net> I recall reading somewhere that I need Samba. Where can I get it? From a more basic standpoint, what do I have to do to get started? I will need an ethernet card for the PC (NT4.0). Any suggestions? Should I use coax or phone-line type cable? What, specifically, do I have to do to set up netinfo correctly and what do I have to do on the PC side? I KNOW NOTHING!! Presently I have the PC set up so I can dial in from the Cube (I have two phone lines). The PC also can dial into my ISP, using the same login I use for the Cube, but it is only a local line, and I would prefer to just use the Cube for outside connections. If this helps, what I want to do is, of course, transfer files, but I also want to use the Cube to provide mail service for the PC. I have heard that the PC is pretty bad for mail. I also would like to access the outside world via the Cube becuase I only have a local line for the PC, but I have Metropolitan Service on the Cube. All ideas will be greatly appreciated. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:15:23 GMT Message-ID: <34944c45.69054750@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET You could just do like me and get a jazz (or syquest) drive and use that as your main hard drive. Then, when you want a new operating system, you just pop in a new drive. On Sun, 14 Dec 1997 11:43:30 -0500, "Stephen J. Fralich" <sfralich@mesa.ml.org> wrote: >I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube >to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube >Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable >medium available for them? If so where can I find it? I have also read >that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. Where can I find an >internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and >an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? > >Basically I am buying a NeXTcube just to play around with, but chances are >I will screw up something along the way and have to reinstall the OS. I >want to be able to do this either by reinstalling off the CD or restoring >from some backup source. If you can answer any of these questions please >respond. > >Thanks, >Stephen > >--------------------------------------------- >Stephen J. Fralich sfralich@mesa.ml.org >Mesa Systems http://mesa.ml.org/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 8.4 Gig harddrive with NS 3.3 on black? Date: 14 Dec 1997 21:14:12 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672eb4$283@slip.net> References: <66rtm9$q3s$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Hi, If I install a 8.4 Gig hard drive on a Cube will NS3.3 create 5 usable partitions such that all 8.4 Gigs are available? Thanks, Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How clean does your NeXT HW record? Date: 14 Dec 1997 21:16:56 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672eg8$2e8@slip.net> References: <66uj98$5t1@nntp02.primenet.com> In article <66uj98$5t1@nntp02.primenet.com>, Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> wrote: > >This has been irritating me for quite a while, when I record using either a >mic or >the monitor's mic on my cube, I get a clean background. Whenever I record >on my Turbocolor, I get pops and a whine in the background, sort of like how >a >record will sound. These pops also distort whatever's recorded. > For me it is the opposite. When I use the built in mic on a mono terminal I get lots of crackles but when using the soundbox no pops. I think if you get a new sound box you'll be alright. Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 14 Dec 1997 21:24:36 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672euk$2mu@slip.net> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> <34944c45.69054750@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> > >>I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube >>to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube >>Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable >>medium available for them? Either a SCSI Jazz or Zip will do. I have also read >>that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. You're better off getting an external SCSI CD-ROM. I recommend you follow www.ebay.com and look for an NEC Multispin 3X. Be sure it is a Multispin, not a CDR. Will do all the nice things you'd expect from a NeXT/SONY CD-ROM. Like work well with CD-Player. >>internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and >>an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? So long as neither is a full height drive yes. A cube can't have two full heights and also have a floppy or OD. >>Basically I am buying a NeXTcube just to play around with, but chances are >>I will screw up something along the way and have to reinstall the OS. I >>want to be able to do this either by reinstalling off the CD or restoring >>from some backup source. If you can answer any of these questions please >>respond. It's hard to get NS3.3. But 3.2 is available for a reasonable cost (The 3.3 compiler has the option to compile quad-fat, but if you just running black you can go with 3.2 and with the pd foundation stuff and do fine. Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Specs on NeXT Hitachi 21" Date: 14 Dec 1997 21:29:29 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672f7p$2uu@slip.net> References: <65iqiq$rt$1@news.wku.edu> In article <65iqiq$rt$1@news.wku.edu>, Daniel L. Mercer <dmercer@pulsar.wku.edu> wrote: >Hullo, > >I am looking for any and all technical specs on the NeXT 21" monitors >produced by Hitachi in 1992 and 93. Refresh rates, vertical and horizontal >frequencys and any additional information would be greatly appreciated! >Cheers, happy holidays and all that. :-) > > > Dan Mercer > See the page on monitors at www.deepspace.com. Has the specs you're looking for. Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color displays and Macs Date: 14 Dec 1997 21:33:34 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672ffe$34a@slip.net> References: <661idt$145$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu> Keywords: Color display, Mac Yes it can. Read the page on monitors at www.deepspace.com and follow up with Shanon if there isn't enough there to get you started. In article <661idt$145$1@goldenapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu>, Richard Stern <rms@jeffress.SPEECH.CS.CMU.EDU> wrote: > >Can the NeXT 21-inch Megapixel color display be used with any of the >current generation Apple computers? If so, what needs to be done to get >it to work? > >Thanks for the help and advice! > > -Rich Stern > >Richard Stern >Carnegie Mellon University >Phone: (412) 268-2535; FAX: (412) 268-3890; Email: rms@cs.cmu.edu
From: vamp@vamp.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Misc Qs on NeXTStation Color Turbo Date: 14 Dec 1997 23:44:42 -0800 Organization: http://www.vamp.org/ Message-ID: <y1l7m97caol.fsf@shell4.ba.best.com> References: <349401B1.14AB6E4E@bah.com> Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> writes: > I'm considering getting a NeXTStation Color Turbo (here after as NSCT; I know > it might not be fast... I like the design), I have a few questions here, I > would really appreciated if someone can answer them for me (a Mac user): > > 1. Is the NeXT Cube Color Turbo (NCCT) faster than the NSCT? They should be the same. Same CPU, same clock speed, etc. I'm not aware of anything that would make one faster than the other. > 2. What will the Dimension board really do (acceleration?) Allow a cube to have a color display among other things. Offload display stuff from the main CPU, provide video in/out, etc > 3. How much is the maximum memory that can a NSCT take? I think NSCT uses > 72-pin SIMM right, > so it can takes 128M (32M x 4)? 128MB is right. There is a specific NeXT RAM FAQ at http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQs/NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ The an ND Turbo Cube can take 128MB on the main board as well, and another 64MB on the Dimension board. -- Ryan Watkins "but i feel no guilt / i'm doing all the things that vamp@vamp.org i want to do / do we all believe in contemplation / http://www.vamp.org do we all believe it? / i put my boat right on the water / i hear the voices calling, but is it you? / do we all believe in endless summers / do we all believe in summer?" -bel canto
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help to network Cube and NT4.0 PC Date: 15 Dec 1997 00:02:32 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <672o6o$dr4@slip.net> References: <66meqh$ckn$1@dropit.pgh.net> In article <66meqh$ckn$1@dropit.pgh.net>, <me@venetia.pgh.pa.us> wrote: >I recall reading somewhere that I need Samba. Where can I get it? > >From a more basic standpoint, what do I have to do to get started? > >I will need an ethernet card for the PC (NT4.0). Any suggestions? >Should I use coax or phone-line type cable? > You'll probably need a two user license of NetWare. Here's info on Samba from http://www.this.net/~frank packed by Frank Siegert This release was prepared by OneVision GmbH. Used by kind permission. Samba is distributed under the GNU licence. You can always get the full source from below mentioned web site. No warranty of any kind. If this burns your system it is all your own fault. For samba information please refer to http://lake.canberra.edu.au/pub/samba/ 1. Install only as root, should go to /samba cd / gnutar xzvf samba_bin.NISH.tar,gz 2. Open /samba/install_samba, add you host name or use '/' for a standalone system 3. Run /samba/install_samba, edit /samba/lib/smb.conf 4. enter /samba/bin/smbd /samba/bin/nmbd Samba should run now (you can enter these two lines into /etc/rc.local later) 5. Add a new user username = "samba", group = "nogroup" 6. read the documentation in /samba/docs 7. To mount remote SMB clients on your NeXT use 'rumba' from peanuts.leo.org 8. Hope that helps
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From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 03:34:50 GMT Message-ID: <3494a4f4.91764934@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET I went the database "nextanswers" and typed in jazz, found plenty of listings, but think the only "Jazz" drive was: which I don't think is "jazz" drive like I am thinking of. I really, really hope I can just get a jazz drive and swap operating systems back and forth, but don't know, Thanks to everyone! ------------------------------ Media Vision Jazz 16 Overview is NeXTanswer #1731; Driver available from NeXTanswers Media Vision Deluxe Sound Card Media Vision Pro Sonic Sound Card
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 15 Dec 1997 14:56:01 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <673ge1$ls2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> "Stephen J. Fralich" <sfralich@mesa.ml.org> wrote: >I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube >to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube >Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable >medium available for them? If so where can I find it? I have also read >that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. Where can I find an >internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and >an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? I'm very happy with the Fujitsu MO drive. While the drive is relatively costy compared to the cheapo Zip drives, or even SyJet and Jazz, it has the very inexpensive media, and is highly reliable - an important feature for a backup device. It works fine with NeXT hardware, OPENSTEP Intel, and Macs. Great for transferring data between platforms, too. If you use the 640 MB media, you'll need a disktab entry. The 230 MB media work right out of the box. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What SRAM will work with NeXT DSP? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EL76t6.9q8@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:10:18 GMT References: <EL1Itv.Drv@midway.uchicago.edu> <mrb-1412970105340001@dialup68-berkeley.autobahn.org> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <mrb-1412970105340001@dialup68-berkeley.autobahn.org>, Brendan Bolles <mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com> wrote: >Doesn't seem to be much point of it, anyway. These guys were doing custom >speech recognition development using the DSP, but I don't know of any >available software that benefits from more DSP memory. > The MusicKit will use it, and so therefore will things like SynthBuilder (the new Stacatto version, perhaps not the old 1993 version.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Misc Qs on NeXTStation Color Turbo Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EL7L11.9sM@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:17:25 GMT References: <349401B1.14AB6E4E@bah.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <349401B1.14AB6E4E@bah.com>, Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm considering getting a NeXTStation Color Turbo (here after as NSCT; I know >it might not be fast... I like the design), Go for it--it's a very fun, useful machine. >1. Is the NeXT Cube Color Turbo (NCCT) faster than the NSCT? There's not entirely any such thing as a "Cube Color Turbo". You can add a NeXTdimension board to a Turbo Cube; CPU will be the same as the NSTC (the usual shortform for NeXTstation Turbo Color) but graphics performance will be somewhat lower--it has twice the data to move about. >2. What will the Dimension board really do (acceleration?) Without it a cube has a 2-bit greyscale display. With it the cube also has a 32-bbp display, video capture, and video output. The 32-bbp display is about 3/4 as fast as the 2-bbp display. >3. How much is the maximum memory that can a NSCT take? I think NSCT uses >72-pin SIMM right, > so it can takes 128M (32M x 4)? Right, 128MB for any machine based on the Turbo chipset (NSTC, NST, Turbo Cube, and the few 25MHz mono stations based on the Turbo chipset.) >4. Where can I find the NeXT modem cable schematic? > They're descirbed in the man page for zs(4). -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Removable Storage Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EL7MGM.KHy@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 02:48:22 GMT References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu>, Stephen J. Fralich <sfralich@mesa.ml.org> wrote: >I've been thinking about purchasing a NeXT cube, but I would like the Cube >to have some kind of removable storage, for backup purposes. The NeXTcube >Turbos no longer support the optical drives, is there some other removable >medium available for them? If so where can I find it? Zip/Jaz/EzFlyer/SyJet all work fine. >I have also read >that NeXTcubes can support an internal CD-ROM. Where can I find an >internal CD-ROM too? Could a NeXTcube support 2 internal hard drives and >an internal CD-ROM (Dealing with very limited space i.e. dorm room)? > Can't help much there, I'm afraid. If you can get a CD-ROM that will work with your bezel you can likely get everything to fit easily enough. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Chris Roehrig <croehrig@House.ORG> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help -- my next laser printer has the "melted gear" problem Date: 15 Dec 1997 19:46:26 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <6741ei$56j$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <66s384$mmg$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> I'll second that! Timothy's page is a great resource. I'd like to add that the parts you need for both canonical NeXTPrinter problems (fuser gear and pickup roller) both seem to be readily available at any laser printer service shop. I found them in Vancouver and had my printer fixed within about 2 hours of finding Timothy's page. The parts you need are for the Canon SX engine: SX Pickup Roller RA1-3851 SX 14-tooth gear RS1-0132 -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: How to share FD,OD,CD-ROM drives with black NeXTs? Message-ID: <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 19:31:04 GMT Yes, I'd like to configure two or more black NeXT machines to share the same set of drives. The sysadmin manual does not say how to do this. Since this is doable with SUN machine, I guess this should be doable with NeXT. I do not want to manually mount each media. Thanks for any help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hgromard@hurrican (Herve de GROMARD) Subject: disktab for Quantum Viking Message-ID: <EL88qq.6DF@x-lan.alienor.fr> Sender: news@x-lan.alienor.fr Organization: x&lan Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:49:38 GMT Is somebody have the distab for hard disk Quantum Viking 2 Gb and 4 Gb ? Thak you to reply at : --- Herve de GROMARD X&LAN - FRANCE Email/NeXTmail/MIME:hgromard@x-lan.alienor.fr Tel:(+33) 556 408 993 Fax:(+33) 556 405 799 Fax:(+33) 556 405 799
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) Date: 15 Dec 1997 20:19:40 GMT Message-ID: <19971215201901.PAA07804@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <3494a4f4.91764934@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Uh, try searching on "Jaz" there's a disktab entry for it (which is required). I'm not sure how booting would work, since it needs the afore-mentioned disktab entry (how could the OS get it if it needs ut to utilise the drive). Neat idea though, and something I'd been hoping to do as well (now if they'd just do the affordable 1/2 gig carts). William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 15 Dec 1997 21:15:05 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <6746kp$eam$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> <673ge1$ls2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> wrote: >I'm very happy with the Fujitsu MO drive. While the drive is relatively >costy compared to the cheapo Zip drives, or even SyJet and Jazz, it has >the very inexpensive media, and is highly reliable - an important feature >for a backup device. > >It works fine with NeXT hardware, OPENSTEP Intel, and Macs. Great for >transferring data between platforms, too. > >If you use the 640 MB media, you'll need a disktab entry. The 230 MB >media work right out of the box. Christian, How old is your Fujitsu MO drive? I tried a version (I think 120mb) of that several years ago on my NextStation and could not get it to work. Just curious. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: Lutz Kwasniok <101667.1750@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Organization: CompuServe, Inc. (1-800-689-0736) Message-ID: <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:15:06 -0500 Hello, did someone know if there is a driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 for NS 3.3 on Intel avaiable and where I can get it ? Thanks in advance. L. Kwasniok ---------------------------------------------------------------- L. Kwasniok Hannover / Germany e-mail : 101667.1750@compuserve.com (ASCII, MIME) -- Lutz Kwasniok Hannover Germany Mail: 101667.1750@compuserve.com (MIME, ASCII)
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 15 Dec 1997 23:29:37 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <674eh1$90c$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> <673ge1$ls2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6746kp$eam$2@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >How old is your Fujitsu MO drive? I tried a version (I think 120mb) of that >several years ago on my NextStation and could not get it to work. Just >curious. > >Darren >www.bcog.org/~dreely The first Fujitsu MO drives with 120MB capacity are known not to work with black hardware, even though they work flowlessly with Intel hardware. All drives larger than 230MB will work fine with Balck. --- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 15 Dec 1997 23:08:15 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <674d8v$d3s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 101667.1750@CompuServe.COM NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Please read http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html rather than crossposting. In <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Lutz Kwasniok wrote: > did someone know if there is a driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 for > NS 3.3 on Intel avaiable and where I can get it ? Try searching for 'SoundBlaster AWE 64' at http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/Search.html and you'll find two entries but I am not sure which one is the one you need. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to share FD,OD,CD-ROM drives with black NeXTs? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 15 Dec 1997 23:19:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <674dts$d3s$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Please either pick *a* group or set the Followups-To line .. .see http://www.stepwise.com/Resources/Newsgroups/roadmap.html for a useful guide (man I need a macro for this ;-) In <EL8wvt.Lno@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang wrote: > > Yes, I'd like to configure two or more black NeXT machines to share > the same set of drives. The sysadmin manual does not say how to do this. > Since this is doable with SUN machine, I guess this should be doable > with NeXT. I do not want to manually mount each media. Do you mean share at the same time? You want NFS if you mean at the same time, if you mean something else I'm not sure what you mean. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Bob Beckwith <beckwith@NOSPAM.whinny.tdh.qntm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help partitioning large disk Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:13:33 -0500 Organization: Quantum Corp Message-ID: <3495D5BD.6415@NOSPAM.whinny.tdh.qntm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need help in partitioning a large disk. I grabbed NeXTanswer 1533 a followed it. Then figured out the bugs (e.g. too many semicolons) in the help. Then grabbed and built sdformat since things still weren't working right using sdform. I now think I'm close, but not quite there all the way yet. All I want to do is take a 4GB disk and split it into 2 2GB partitions. Any and all help would be greatly appreciated. Here are some data points... When I boot my system (a NeXTstation color turbo, running NS 3.3) I see the following in /private/adm/messages Nov 11 02:54:21 localhost mach: SEAGATE ST34371W Rev 0338 as sd1 at sc0 target 2 lun 0 Nov 11 02:54:21 localhost mach: Disk Label: Disk Nov 11 02:54:21 localhost mach: Disk Capacity 52MB, Device Block 512 bytes However I also see this on the workspace browser (note: at present I'm not trying to mount the second partition) 1.78GB available on hard disk running scsimodes I see: /usr/etc/scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: SEAGATE ST34371W 512 bytes per sector 165 sectors per track 10 tracks per cylinder 5168 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 80 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 8496959 usable sectors on volume I'm using the following /etc/disktab (which is where I suspect the problem may be): ST34371W|ST34371W-512|SEAGATE ST34371W-512\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#5168:nt#10:ns#165:ss#512:rm#3600\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD\ :pb#4194304:sb#1493822:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: THANKS!!!! -- Bob Beckwith To reply, remove NOSPAM. from the email address above.
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium II Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:50:07 -0800 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971215164904.2609A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Any good/bad comments regarding the Pentium II and NextStep 3.3? Any motherboards which are good or bad? Thanks. Robert
From: Jochen_Richter@t-online.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep display driver for Compaq Armada 7300? Date: 15 Dec 1997 08:02:38 GMT Organization: S.a.d.e. Message-ID: <672o6v$s23$1@news02.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any driver available for a Compaq Armada 7330T (S3 Aurora chip)? The S3GenericDriver doesn't work unfortunately. -- Jochen Richter SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.) Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90 D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99 Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de
From: spl@no.mo.spam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AGP is here... Date: 16 Dec 1997 00:54:38 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <674jge$q7l$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone else notice that the driver for the Matrox cards slipped in AGP support? Anyone using the Millenium 2 AGP with OpenStep 4.2? I'd be interested in finding out if there's any performance difference between it and the PCI card. http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2334.htmld/2334.html Ian -- (ROT13) pbz oynpxfzvgu qbg ng pneqranf
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip panic crashes hard drive Date: 16 Dec 1997 02:23:50 GMT Message-ID: <19971216022301.VAA20421@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Help! After working perfectly until now, my Zip drive ceased reading NeXT formatted disks. In attempting to repair it, I ignored SCSI errors in the console log. Finally, trying to eject a Zip cartridge after it repeatedly failed to initialize successfully crashed the system with a panic brought about by, I believe, a bad inode reference. I'm now rebuilding the drive which I should've put away as a backup. Once it's done, what should I do? Attempting to boot with my main drive said, "run fsck manually" but the man page isn't all that helpful, though it did reference a printed? text of some sort. To add to the on-going Zip discussion, it's my suspicion that it was a termination difficulty in my case--I had a short cable hooked up to a terminator, and the Zip plugged into the terminator. As I said, it'd worked in the past. I'd be obliged at any thoughts or assistance anyone could offer me. Thanks. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nenad Andjelic <andjelic@infinity.com.eg> Subject: ESS 1868 PnP Sound Card Message-ID: <3495ED18.1FE25003@infinity.com.eg> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:53:12 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I own a so called Sound Maker sound card made by Genius. It is PnP and uses ESS 1868 chipset. I have downloaded the latest 1x88 driver for NeXT 3.3 which included the support for the chipset my sound card uses. However, during boot process NeXT claims that it found no sound card at the base address 0x220. Can anyone give a clue how to make the sound card working? Cheers, Ned
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) Date: 16 Dec 1997 01:49:36 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <674mng$oh7$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <3494a4f4.91764934@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <19971215201901.PAA07804@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19971215201901.PAA07804@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > Uh, try searching on "Jaz" there's a disktab entry for it (which is > required). > I'm not sure how booting would work, since it needs the afore-mentioned > disktab entry (how could the OS get it if it needs it to utilise > the drive). > The OS needs the disktab entry only to format the drive. The information is then stored in a partition table in the "front porch" area, along with the bootstrap. Now you know what the front porch is for. Subsequent operations on the disk, like building the file system (newfs) and mounting it to be used (mount) read from that partition table to determine the size and shape of the disk. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip panic crashes hard drive Date: 16 Dec 1997 04:19:00 GMT Message-ID: <19971216041901.XAA27083@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19971216022301.VAA20421@ladder01.news.aol.com> Sorry, should've looked at dejanews first. I found the instructions on using reasb and did this, as shown below, then tried running fsck once again. None of the files listed seem to be the ones I'm concerned about recovering. What should I do next? Run /fsck -y /dev/rsd1a? If the reasb command on 45504 was successful why does it show up as a problem in the fsck still? One of the places I was looking for information was the book _Inside Unix_ by Chris Hare, but nothing seemed helpful (no index entry for fsck) Am I correct in thinking that this book is superficial and devoid of the kind of information useful in a really scary difficulty like I'm having? For that matter, neither The NeXT Book or Bible had anything on fsck either. Can someone suggest a printed reference that's palatable that'll promote me one or two steps toward being a unix guru? Thanks. William localhost:1# /usr/etc/reasb /dev/rsd1h 45504 -r ...Trying to recover block 45504(d) ...block 45504(d) recovered after 1 attempts ...Reassigning block 45504(d) ...Block 45504(d) reassigned ...Block 45504(d) data restored localhost:2# /usr/etc/fsck -n /dev/rsd1a ** /dev/rsd1a (NO WRITE) ** Last Mounted on / ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45504 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45505 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45506 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45507 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45508 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45509 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45510 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45511 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45512 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45513 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45514 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45515 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45516 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45517 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45519 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45520 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45521 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45522 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45523 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45524 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45525 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45526 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45527 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45528 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45529 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45530 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45531 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45532 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45533 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45534 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45535 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45536 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45537 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45538 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45539 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45540 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45541 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45542 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45543 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45544 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45545 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45546 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45547 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45548 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45549 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45550 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45551 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45552 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45553 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45554 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45555 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45556 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45557 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45558 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45559 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45560 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45561 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45562 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45563 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45564 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45565 CLEAR? no UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45566 CLEAR? no PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45567 CLEAR? no INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=82049 (1 should be 0) CORRECT? no INCORRECT BLOCK COUNT I=82052 (4 should be 0) CORRECT? no ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames DUP/BAD I=45524 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 FILE=/me/.OpenStep/Colors REMOVE? no UNALLOCATED I=45530 OWNER=root MODE=0 SIZE=25866 MTIME=Jan 1 02:51 1970 NAME=/me/.OpenStep/.NextTrash/test.pdf REMOVE? no UNALLOCATED I=45528 OWNER=root MODE=0 SIZE=0 MTIME=Jan 1 06:47 1970 NAME=/me/Mailboxes/Archive.mbox REMOVE? no UNALLOCATED I=45523 OWNER=root MODE=0 SIZE=26995 MTIME=Jan 1 02:51 1970 NAME=/me/Documents REMOVE? no ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity UNREF DIR I=86180 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 RECONNECT? no UNREF DIR I=86181 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 RECONNECT? no UNREF DIR I=86182 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 RECONNECT? no UNREF DIR I=86183 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 RECONNECT? no UNREF DIR I=141456 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 15 16:40 1997 RECONNECT? no ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts LINK COUNT DIR I=36921 OWNER=me MODE=40777 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 16:06 1997 COUNT 8 SHOULD BE 7 ADJUST? no LINK COUNT DIR I=43066 OWNER=me MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:05 1997 COUNT 6 SHOULD BE 5 ADJUST? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45508 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45509 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45510 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45516 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45517 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no LINK COUNT FILE I=45524 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 COUNT 0 SHOULD BE 1 ADJUST? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45525 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45526 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45532 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45533 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45534 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45540 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45541 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45542 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45548 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45549 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45550 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45556 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45557 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45558 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45564 OWNER=10752 MODE=10000 SIZE=5292 MTIME=Dec 15 19:11 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP DIR I=45565 OWNER=2 MODE=42230 SIZE=1714814976 MTIME=Feb 18 14:16 1997 CLEAR? no BAD/DUP FILE I=45566 OWNER=13879 MODE=33066 SIZE=-1741488128 MTIME=Jun 20 09:02 2006 CLEAR? no LINK COUNT DIR I=57389 OWNER=me MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 14 16:40 1997 COUNT 4 SHOULD BE 3 ADJUST? no UNREF FILE I=82049 OWNER=root MODE=100644 SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 15 18:06 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF FILE I=82052 OWNER=root MODE=100666 SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 15 18:06 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF DIR I=86180 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF DIR I=86181 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF DIR I=86182 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF DIR I=86183 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=1024 MTIME=Dec 15 17:16 1997 CLEAR? no UNREF DIR I=141456 OWNER=root MODE=40755 SIZE=0 MTIME=Dec 15 16:40 1997 CLEAR? no ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS SALVAGE? no 14582 files, 240017 used, 595759 free (1063 frags, 74337 blocks, 0.1% fragmentation) File system may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: November 1990 BYTE article on NeXT hardware Date: 15 Dec 1997 20:33:05 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <6750a1$qju@slip.net> If you're own, are selling, or are about to purchase NeXT black hardware you might enjoy reading this BYTE November 1990 which has prices on NeXT computers. See http://www.slip.net/~emclean/next/article.html . Emmett
From: cloaked@fornospam.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:47:24 GMT Message-ID: <3496c134.164544015@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <3494a4f4.91764934@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <19971215201901.PAA07804@ladder02.news.aol.com> <674mng$oh7$1@news1.ucsd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: IBM.NET >> Uh, try searching on "Jaz" there's a disktab entry for it (which is >> required). > >The OS needs the disktab entry only to format the drive. The information is >then stored in a partition table in the "front porch" area, along with the >bootstrap. Now you know what the front porch is for. thanks, now I know a little more about the hard drive! But even after reading all these things, and nextanswers, I still haven't decided if I can get by with only a jazz drive as my hard drive? This sure will /would be nice being able to swap out hard drives on a moments notice! thanks again for the help > >Subsequent operations on the disk, like building the file system (newfs) and >mounting it to be used (mount) read from that partition table to determine >the size and shape of the disk. > > carl
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 16 Dec 1997 13:46:49 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <6760o9$kh9$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> <673ge1$ls2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6746kp$eam$2@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >Christian, > >How old is your Fujitsu MO drive? I tried a version (I think 120mb) of that >several years ago on my NextStation and could not get it to work. Just >curious. Two or three years. Did you check the various dip switches? Things like Termpwr, synch SCSI and all that need to be set correctly. I know quite a few people that use the Fujitso MO drives, and none of them have caused problems yet. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: hugob@tamtam Subject: Re: Driver for Symbios 8751SP SCSI controller ? Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <hugob.97Dec16103041@tamtam> Sender: news@tamtam.xs4all.nl Organization: datagram References: <EL76A5.7yt@fritz.snafu.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 09:31:41 GMT > Does anybody know whether the Symbios SCSI driver which comes with Openstep or > Rhapsody would support the later Symbios models like the ultra-wide SYM 8751 > SP ? I tried an Asus SYM53C875 board. It does not work with the OpenStep SYM53C8xx driver. With two boards installed (one C875 and one C810), the old Talus driver ignores the C875 and boots from the C810, while the NeXT driver finds two boards and panics. Hugo Burm
From: cable1@interport.net (lord cable) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MIDI interface Date: 16 Dec 1997 11:04:25 -0500 Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <6768q9$icn$1@interport.net> I just purchased a NeXT Station Color Turbo and i'd like to use it as a sequencer in my studio. I was told a mac serial midi interface would work, so i bought one. it turns out now that i need to make/get a special cable to this will work with my slab. does anyone have the pinouts for this or know where i can buy one? thanx! -- cable1@interport.net
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How clean does your NeXT HW record? Date: 16 Dec 1997 17:54:17 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <676f89$7t7$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <66uj98$5t1@nntp02.primenet.com> <672eg8$2e8@slip.net> Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: >In article <66uj98$5t1@nntp02.primenet.com>, >Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> wrote: >> >>This has been irritating me for quite a while, when I record using either a >>mic or >>the monitor's mic on my cube, I get a clean background. Whenever I record >>on my Turbocolor, I get pops and a whine in the background, sort of like how >>a >>record will sound. These pops also distort whatever's recorded. >> > For me it is the opposite. When I use the built in mic on a mono > terminal I get lots of crackles but when using the soundbox no pops. Whines are usually caused by - unshielded microphone cable near a powerful magnetic producer (such as your monitor--try moving the sound box as far away from the monitor as possible) - sound from your machine. It's very common that you've gotten used to noise from your drive, fan, etc., but that the microphone picks up and amplifies this noise. I'm not sure what kind of "pops" you're getting, but if the pops are at the very beginning and very end of your sound, they're probably DC offset problems caused by the NeXT *speaker*, not by the microhone pickup. The problem is that the digital wave that had been recorded didn't start or stop right at 0, but at some value above or below 0. When played, this forces the speaker to jump right to that value, causing an audible "pop". The easiest way to clean this up is to turn on deemphasis and ramping. The deemphasis toggle is Command-VolumeUp (it's not marked on the keyboard, but that's what it is). There's no toggle for ramping so far as I know, but you can toggle it if you go to the archives and pick up Resound.app, perhaps the greatest freware sound editor in the history of NeXTSTEP. :-) BTW, I hear tell that for Christmas a new version of Resound will be coming out, version 2.5, fixing two big bugs that have caused 2.4 to crash a lot. *Wow*, the SoundKit has a lot of bugs in it. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Removable Storage Date: 16 Dec 1997 20:50:43 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <676pj3$sdi$4@brie.direct.ca> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.971214112341.31210A-100000@mesa.student.syr.edu> <673ge1$ls2$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> <6746kp$eam$2@brie.direct.ca> <674eh1$90c$1@agate.berkeley.edu> satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) wrote: >ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >>How old is your Fujitsu MO drive? I tried a version (I think 120mb) of that >>several years ago on my NextStation and could not get it to work. Just >>curious. >> >>Darren >>www.bcog.org/~dreely > >The first Fujitsu MO drives with 120MB capacity are known not to work with >black hardware, even though they work flowlessly with Intel hardware. All >drives larger than 230MB will work fine with Balck. > >--- >Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome) Thank you Satoru and Christian for your responses. Same to anyone else who answers. Darren
From: Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium II Date: 17 Dec 1997 09:26:49 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <6785sp$d2@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971215164904.2609A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for OpenStep; Version 0.37 / Sep 14, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Robert G. Jacobs : 1997-12-16 01:50:07 +0100: > Any good/bad comments regarding the Pentium II and NextStep 3.3? Any > motherboards which are good or bad? Thanks. I would like to know how much faster the P II 233 is with NS compared to the P 233. Is the P II worth the extra money or is speed improvement not worth mentioning? --- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: heller@lrz.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Date: 17 Dec 1997 12:12:59 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <678fkb$m6s$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <674d8v$d3s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <674d8v$d3s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) writes: > In <Or8CF6ZC9GA.219@ntawwabp.compuserve.com> Lutz Kwasniok wrote: > > > did someone know if there is a driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 for > > NS 3.3 on Intel avaiable and where I can get it ? > > Try searching for 'SoundBlaster AWE 64' at > http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/Search.html and you'll find two > entries but I am not sure which one is the one you need. > > TjL I have a similar problem: on my DELL system (NS3.3) I have a PnP SB16 card, but it is not recognised by the driver. However, when the SB16-driver (V3.35) is activated in Configure.app, my system does not boot properly any more: everything goes well, "reboot complete" appears, but then no login screen, only the busy wheel. I can log in remotely, however. NeXTAnswers quaintly states: > Known Problems > > In order to configure resources (like IRQ, DMA, port addresses) > correctly, make sure that the system BIOS knows about the resources > used by this and other ISA adapters. > But **HOW** do I do this????? I have no idea how I can tell the BIOS **ANYTHING**! Can anyone help? Here an excerpt from my /usr/adm/messages: Dec 16 08:30:22 next mach: available memory = 28.72 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = e5d Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL0054 s/n 0x062dd70c Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: ISA/EISA bus support enabled Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: ISA bus Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PCI Ver=2.10 BusCount=1 Features=[ BIOS16 CM1 ] .... Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: PnP: configuring Creative SB AWE32 PnP Audio Dec 17 11:32:58 next mach: SoundBlaster16: This driver does not support 8-bit Sound Blaster cards. I already added the PnP-ID (CTL0054) into the driver table, but the driver still thinks it is an 8bit card (but it is 16bit!). So now I think that it might be a conflict with the BIOS. Therefore I would need to know how to tell the BIOS to stay away from which DMA/IRQ. Who can help? Thanks! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-280-9460 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@lrz.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-289-28823 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller Leibniz-Rechenzentrum (LRZ)
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie to NeXT hardware needs help Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:58:48 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <3498E5C8.99E00621@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I got a few questions here, but first of all, let me tell you guys some info: me just purchased a Turbo Color Station system with no HD (thus a newbie to the NeXT hardware; the machine is on its way to me), currently I have one Intel P166 running OS4.2 Mach, and a pal has a NeXTCube Turbo with NS3.3. 1. As I understand, NeXT hardware has difficulties with HD more that 1G? It needs something like disktab? Has anyone even used a Micropolis 4345N, or Quantum Fireball 540S, or IBM DORS32160 successfully on a NeXT hardware? If disktab exist, where to get them? How shall I go about doing this? Can I just put the HD in the diskless slab and the system will format it? (like the Mac), or I need to put it in a separate external case and do it on the Cube? 2. Now, if I ever get pass (1), how do I get NS3.3 or OS4.2 onto that Turbo Color?? BuildDisk from the Cube (via external case)? Or something else? I got OS4.2 CD, has access to a NEC 8X CD-ROM drive and also Apple 600e CD drive. is there any pdf, ps or web page containing these info? Pls help. Many thanks in advance, merry christmas and happy new year to everyone. Tim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNJnGSUfR/0EnrrDnEQLAAgCggpVa/brjZ7fhdQMsF6dHqjtjtBEAn1WR 7VvDAxB4BC4SEa80v+gmMn1t =OGu2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium II Date: 17 Dec 1997 11:58:59 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <6797dj$6n1$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971215164904.2609A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> <6785sp$d2@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote: : I would like to know how much faster the P II 233 is with NS compared : to the P 233. Is the P II worth the extra money or is speed : improvement not worth mentioning? The PII 233 is going to kick butt all over the P 233, especially in video with write posting enabled. However, I doubt there is a huge performance difference between the PII 233 and the PPro 200. But there is a significant price difference. ..............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting?
From: Bing-Hung Chen <bhchen@rice.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable adapter for a color monitor Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:24:34 -0600 Organization: Rice University Message-ID: <34983502.4358@rice.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: bhchen@rice.edu Help!! Is there anyone knowing where to buy a cable adapter for a color monitor to replace the broken MegaPixel monitor? We bought a NeXT station with a 17" MegaPixel color monitor. Unfortunately, the monitor was broken. Therefore we use a 17" RGB color monitor with a very special adapter. That adapter connects to the monitor cable from NeXT station in one end and has 3 normal BNC (RGB) connector in the other end. Unfortunately, the blue end of that adapter was broken. Now the question is where and how to find this special adapter? Can anyone give me an idea? Many thanks.
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How clean does your NeXT HW record? Date: 13 Dec 1997 11:14:00 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized... sorry... Message-ID: <66uj98$5t1@nntp02.primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This has been irritating me for quite a while, when I record using either a mic or the monitor's mic on my cube, I get a clean background. Whenever I record on my Turbocolor, I get pops and a whine in the background, sort of like how a record will sound. These pops also distort whatever's recorded. -- Headers purposely screwed to avoid spam: rworne(at)primenet(dot)com //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K6 vs. P166? Date: 18 Dec 1997 13:58:19 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67ba5r$ld1$2@news2.digex.net> References: <66o5u0$6t3@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> In AMD K6 vs. P166? comp.sys.next.hardware Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@cmg.fcnbd.com> writes, > Anyone know how OpenStep performs on a 166 MHz K6, > compared to a 166 MHz non-MMX Pentium? > > Thanks, > > Jon The K6 is a real screamer, much faster than the equivalent Intel chips. we are very happy with it. cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help partitioning large disk Date: 18 Dec 1997 15:34:35 GMT Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <67bfqb$8in$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> References: <ELCLLr.HEA@nidat.sub.org> Keywords: partition, large disk Hi, Someone wrote about problems partitioning a 4+ GB disk. The disk in question was the Seagate ST34371W. I had problems with the narrow version of this disk (the ST34371N). I'm no expert, but here is my experience. As this person mentioned, the /usr/adm/messages file reports a disk capacity of 52 MB! My guess is that 52 MB is the amount of disk space "left over" after forming a pair of 2 GB (actually 2147.5 MB) partitions. In some cases, this does not cause a problem. For example, I think one can use the "disk" command to partition the disk into two large (2 GB) partitions. The leftover space (52 MB) can either be ignored or used as a third partition. In other cases, however, problems arise. I tried to load NEXTSTEP (or was it OPENSTEP) from scratch. The mechanism responsible for reporting 52 MB in the messages file must also be involved here. The installation program bombed out because it thought there was not enough room to install the basics. It reported that only 52 MB were available. I tried many times, but was never able to install NEXTSTEP on the "entire" disk. I had to choose the option to set aside some space for a DOS partition. I chose something like 150 MB for DOS and it worked. I'm guessing that as long as one sets aside more than 52 MB for DOS, it'll work. Later I tried the Seagate ST34572N, which I believe is the replacement for the 34371. This drive is slightly larger and thus did not lead to the same installation problem. Now the "left over" space was something like 247 MB, which was enough to allow the installation program to "think" it should work. Then, after the installation finished, the disk was not split into two 2 GB chunks and a 247 MB chunk, but rather 3 equal-sized 1.4 GB chunks. Weird. Of course, I could be completely wrong about all of this. It's only my non-expert guess. I would be interested in hearing other opinions (or facts!). Gregg =========================== Gregg Dinse dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Need help partitioning large disk Message-ID: <ELEB2L.BB4@midway.uchicago.edu> Keywords: partition, large disk Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <ELCLLr.HEA@nidat.sub.org> <67bfqb$8in$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:25:33 GMT In article <67bfqb$8in$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>, Gregg E. Dinse <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> wrote: >Hi, > >Someone wrote about problems partitioning a 4+ GB disk. >The disk in question was the Seagate ST34371W. I had >problems with the narrow version of this disk (the >ST34371N). I'm no expert, but here is my experience. > >As this person mentioned, the /usr/adm/messages file >reports a disk capacity of 52 MB! My guess is that 52 MB >is the amount of disk space "left over" after forming a >pair of 2 GB (actually 2147.5 MB) partitions. > >In some cases, this does not cause a problem. For example, >I think one can use the "disk" command to partition the >disk into two large (2 GB) partitions. The leftover space >(52 MB) can either be ignored or used as a third partition. > >In other cases, however, problems arise. I tried to load >NEXTSTEP (or was it OPENSTEP) from scratch. The mechanism >responsible for reporting 52 MB in the messages file must >also be involved here. The installation program bombed out >because it thought there was not enough room to install the >basics. It reported that only 52 MB were available. > >I tried many times, but was never able to install NEXTSTEP >on the "entire" disk. I had to choose the option to set >aside some space for a DOS partition. I chose something >like 150 MB for DOS and it worked. I'm guessing that as >long as one sets aside more than 52 MB for DOS, it'll work. > >Later I tried the Seagate ST34572N, which I believe is the >replacement for the 34371. This drive is slightly larger >and thus did not lead to the same installation problem. >Now the "left over" space was something like 247 MB, which >was enough to allow the installation program to "think" it >should work. Then, after the installation finished, the >disk was not split into two 2 GB chunks and a 247 MB chunk, >but rather 3 equal-sized 1.4 GB chunks. Weird. > >Of course, I could be completely wrong about all of this. >It's only my non-expert guess. I would be interested in >hearing other opinions (or facts!). > >Gregg > Well, your understanding may or may not be correct. I've used "disk" to partition a ST15150N drive under NS3.3 with black hardware. If you do not specify partition size and use disktab, "disk" will automatically divided the 4GB+ (4x1024x1024x1024) drive into 3 partitions of equal size. If you use "disk -p xxx" to give the the first partition size, "disk" will make the first partition according to this size and divid the remaining space equally (each partition will be just smaller than 2GB). If you want to specify the first two partition sizes, you have to use /etc/disktab to specify the partition parameters. It's not too hard. So my suggestion is that: if you are happy with the behavior of the "disk" utility, leave it to do the work and relax; If you care only about the first partition, use "disk -p xxx". If you want total control of the partitioning, create a /etc/disktab. You just need to change the patition parameters. The bottom line is that NS3.3 (and lower?) will never create a NeXT partition size larger than 2GB. I just wonder if there is any fix to change this without going to OPENSTEP.
From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <882408197.1836187659@dejanews.com> Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net Subject: Dimension Cable Message-ID: <34996caa.0@news.dca.net> Date: 18 Dec 97 18:34:18 GMT wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu wrote: > Hi,all. I recently got the Dimension board and installed it on my Cube. > But I had no cable so I used the Y style cable from color turbo slab. > Everything looks O.K. but end of booting system goes to panic. When I > diconnected the color monitor from Y style cable, there is no problem. > System boots without problem. My question is that I need a special cable > for Dimension board? I know that Deepspacetech sells the dimension cable. > So I need that cable? or some hardware problem on my Dimension board? Any > help or informaton are appreciated. Thanks in advance. > Wonseok Baek Well, If you are doing a single headed display, with only the color monitor, you will need the y-cable and a soundbox. If you are doing a dual-headed system, then you will need the straight thru 13w3 cable from the dimension to the monitor. -Darren
From: dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) Subject: Unter Ecker Black Box? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: DCANet http://www.dca.net Message-ID: <34997631.0@news.dca.net> Date: 18 Dec 97 19:14:57 GMT What ever happened to the UE Black Box that worked with CIC? Are they stil laround...or was it too expensive to run...does onyone have one of these boxes? -Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Dimension Cable Message-ID: <ELEEp7.I6H@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <882408197.1836187659@dejanews.com> <34996caa.0@news.dca.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:43:55 GMT In article <34996caa.0@news.dca.net>, Darren Wright <dwright@universal.dca.net> wrote: >wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu wrote: >> Hi,all. I recently got the Dimension board and installed it on my Cube. >> But I had no cable so I used the Y style cable from color turbo slab. >> Everything looks O.K. but end of booting system goes to panic. When I >> diconnected the color monitor from Y style cable, there is no problem. >> System boots without problem. My question is that I need a special cable >> for Dimension board? I know that Deepspacetech sells the dimension cable. >> So I need that cable? or some hardware problem on my Dimension board? Any >> help or informaton are appreciated. Thanks in advance. > >> Wonseok Baek > >Well, > > If you are doing a single headed display, with only the color >monitor, you will need the y-cable and a soundbox. > >If you are doing a dual-headed system, then you will need the straight >thru 13w3 cable from the dimension to the monitor. > >-Darren > I do not think a single Y monitor cable will work. The ND monitor port does not contain the control signals. You will have to connect either sound box or mono monitor to the MB port. I think you can use the Y monitor cable to replace the ND cable though it is not long enough.
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help partitioning large disk Date: 18 Dec 1997 19:48:41 GMT Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <67bump$jf9$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> References: <ELEB2L.BB4@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <ELEB2L.BB4@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes: > In article <67bfqb$8in$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>, > Gregg E. Dinse <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> wrote: [my description of problem installing NEXTSTEP deleted, along with part of the response] > So my suggestion is that: if you are happy with the > behavior of the "disk" utility, leave it to do the > work and relax; If you care only about the first > partition, use "disk -p xxx". If you want total > control of the partitioning, create a /etc/disktab. > You just need to change the patition parameters. > > The bottom line is that NS3.3 (and lower?) will > never create a NeXT partition size larger than 2GB. > I just wonder if there is any fix to change this > without going to OPENSTEP. You have missed my point. Maybe I did not state it very clearly. Let me try again. My point is that NEXTSTEP would not install from scratch (using the installation floppy and CD) on a new Seagate ST34371N (4+ GB) disk. Forget about whether there were the desired number of partitions or whether the partitions were the desired sizes. The installation program would not work because it "thought" there was only 52 MB available, which is not enough to install basic NEXTSTEP operating system. I know about the 2 GB limit. I know that if I already have NEXTSTEP running on a disk, then I can use the "disk" command to partition a different disk. I know there are various ways to build a system on one disk if NEXTSTEP is running on another disk. But what if I only have one disk and I want to install NEXTSTEP? Or what if, for some other reason, I want to install a fresh copy from the floppy and CD (rather than from another hard disk)? I could not figure out how to install NEXTSTEP on the entire disk. I figured out a trick -- choose the option to set aside some space for DOS. This worked, but it's not really what I wanted. The issue regarding the number and size of the partitions formed when installing NEXTSTEP is of secondary interest to me. What I found much more interesting is that if someone did not know enough to set aside some space for DOS, then the NEXTSTEP installation program would not work with this otherwise fine (and large) disk. I know that if NEXTSTEP "thinks" there is enough room on a large disk, then it creates equal-sized partitions, the number of which are not always easily predictable (at least not by me). I would have guessed that it would create the smallest number of equal-sized partitions such that this common size is less than the (2 GB) limit. Sometimes it creates more than that, though. For example, rather than splitting a 4.2 GB disk into three 1.4 GB partitions, I've seen it create four 1.05 GB partitions. Even though this seems to be the behavior when the disk is an "appropriate" size, there are some disks for which something other than this "equal-sized" algorithm is used. For the Seagate ST34371N (and I think the Quantum XP34550S as well), the sizing algorithm used in the installation program decides that the disk is not large enough, even though it is probably 15-20 larger than what gets loaded for the base system. I was simply venturing a guess that the algorithm uses some modulo 2 GB function that results in the installation program thinking the disk is the size of the remainder after integer division of the true disk size by the 2 GB limiting factor. This last part is just my wild guess, but the first part is not. Certain programs within NEXTSTEP "think" that a 4+ GB disk is only 52 MB. This is the part I'm curious about. Any clarifications would be appreciated. Thanks, Gregg
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Forgot root password Date: 18 Dec 1997 20:50:54 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <67c2be$ojj$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <3498700D.41C67EA6@oba.ucsd.edu> Mark Stankus <mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu> wrote: >Hi, > > I have a old black next computer and I moved and forgot >my root password. The guy at enterprise.apple said >that I could look up changing the too password >on nextanswers, but I did not find it. Could >someone tell me how to do this? > > By the way, this is my computer. I did not steal it. Mark, Here are the notes from the old system manual. 1 Power the computer off and then on, using the Power key. 2 During the boot process, immediately after the the "Testing System" message (if in graphical boot) is replaced by the "Loading from disk" message, hold down the right command key and press the tilde symbol (~) on the numeric keypad. This displays the ROM monitor window containing the prompt NeXT> WARNING: If the hardward password is set you must supply it. You can not proceed beyound this point without it, if it is set. Since you wouldn't have it, the apparent fix for this is to remove the battery for a day or more and let the system loose its parameters. You should do a repost about that if you need more information. 3 Start up the machine in single-user mode by typing one of the folowing commands at the ROM monitor prompt bsd -s (to boot from the hard disk) bod -s (to boot from the optical disk) ben -s (to boot from the Ethernet) The system will boot up into single user mode. When complete you will see a # prompt. 4 At the single user prompt, start up the system services by typing the following command: sh /etc/rc & You see a series of messages appear on the screen as the rc shell script executes. During the process, NetInfo is started. 5 Set the root password. Enter: passwd root Your prompted twice for the new password. WARNING: When the root password is set, do NOT go to multiuser mode before completing step 6. 6 Power the system off and then on again. After the system boots, you can resure normal operation with the new root password. 7 Log in as root and add or update appropriate user names. You should never use root as a general user account. Look in /NextAdmin for the User software. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:12:05 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Message-ID: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have just been told by DeepSpaceTech that the color moniter with the turbo slab doesn't come with the angled stand - I was sure this was not the case, anyone know different? That stand is an integral style factor... Thanks! Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: advice on booting diskless slab- Corrected Message-ID: <ELE7wn.KnB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34984926.68E7@why.net> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:17:11 GMT In article <34984926.68E7@why.net> Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> writes: > Hi, > I am getting yet another Turbo slab, sans HD. Here's my plan:- > > First create a bootable 3.3 floppy with the BootFloppy script, then use > that to boot the diskless slab. I have an old IBM 160 Mb drive that I > plan to connect to the internal SCSI connector and format that from the > bootfloppy . > Now, if that doesnt work, What standalone utilities do I need to connect > as a single user thru Ethernet to my other slab and use the resources > there to format the IBM drive and live happily ever after ?????? > None! Just enable the existing system to serve as boot server (online SysAdmin manual) and then type 'ben' (for boot over Ethernet) on the client. Then run BuildDisk and be as happy as anyone with 160 MB disk drive can get (i.e. not that much). My advice: keep booting over the Ethernet and install the 160 MB drive as swap disk (also online SysAdmin manual). That might make at least some sense to me (in case the server got enough memory). IMHO, you should not try to run a NEXTSTEP system from less than 500 MB for user and 1 GB for developer, even if all of the user filesystem is NFS-imported. The performance is just too bad and/or the hassle with disk space is just too frustrating. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cable adapter for a color monitor Message-ID: <ELE83B.KpL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <34983502.4358@rice.edu> Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:21:10 GMT In article <34983502.4358@rice.edu> Bing-Hung Chen <bhchen@rice.edu> writes: > Help!! > > Is there anyone knowing where to buy a cable adapter for a color monitor > to replace the broken MegaPixel monitor? > > We bought a NeXT station with a 17" MegaPixel color monitor. > Unfortunately, the monitor was broken. Therefore we use a 17" RGB color > monitor with a very special adapter. That adapter connects to the > monitor cable from NeXT station in one end and has 3 normal BNC (RGB) > connector in the other end. Unfortunately, the blue end of that adapter > was broken. > > Now the question is where and how to find this special adapter? > In case Deepspacetech has none in their offer, SUN used to have the same connectors and there are some suppliers who sell such adapters for SUN... -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Louis.Eagle@tek.com Subject: Multiple SCSI controllers with 4.2 Intel? Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 16:11:32 -0600 Message-ID: <882478710.46530567@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hello, Does anyone know if 4.2 Intel supports multiple SCSI controllers? If so what do I need to do? My initial experiments with 2 Adaptec 2940 boards have not gone well, but my lack of understanding of the PC boot process and BIOS issues could well explain my difficulties. Symptoms so far are the system seems to want to boot off the second conrtoller, but then the mach boot tries to mount root from the first controller. So depending on which controller the disk is on, it either won't boot (asks for a floppy) or panics when it can't find a disk to mount. What I want to do is to isolate and shorten the fast/ultra SCSI chain to less than the spec'd 3 meters, while still accommodating the slow scanner that lives on the end of a 2+ meter cable. Seems like two controllers would be the ticket. Please reply to Louis.Eagle@tek.com Thanks. ----------------------------------------------------- -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Ryan Watkins <vamp@vamp.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: 18 Dec 1997 14:42:50 -0800 Organization: vamp.org Message-ID: <m3ra7agtn9.fsf@vamp.oz.net> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> writes: > Hi, I have just been told by DeepSpaceTech that the color moniter with > the turbo slab doesn't come with the angled stand - I was sure this was > not the case, anyone know different? That stand is an integral style > factor... The color monitors didnt have the neat angled stand. That was only the mono monitors. -- Ryan Watkins "You shouldn't wallow in self-pity. vamp@vamp.org But it's OK to put your feet in it http://www.vamp.org/ and swish them around a little." - Guindon
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: 18 Dec 1997 23:25:27 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: davec@wsunix.wsu.edu This is true. Deepspace has been around for a long time. I'd trust them, since they deal with this stuff on a daily basis and have since, what 1991? (and what possible reason would they have to lie about it?) My guess is that the extra weight made it not such a good idea for the color monitor. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple SCSI controllers with 4.2 Intel? Date: 19 Dec 1997 01:19:59 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <67ci3v$5dm$1@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <882478710.46530567@dejanews.com> Louis.Eagle@tek.com wrote: > Does anyone know if 4.2 Intel supports multiple SCSI controllers? Yes, it does. At least the Symbios driver and DPT driver are capable for handling multiple SCSI controllers. For Symbios, it is written that it does in help section. I'm using two DPT in one machine without problem even though it's not written that you can do it in NeXTanswers. I'm still using 3.3 but I'm sure you can do the same thing under 4.2. I haven't try to mix different kind of controllers, though. I am also not sure whether you can use two Adaptec controllers but I'd seen it's possible under Linux so your chance is high. > If so what do I need to do? Check your motherboard manual and find out the PCI slot numbers. Put the controller you want to boot from to higher (Am I right here??, hope so). You need to inactivate the BIOS of the other SCSI controller to prevent the system to try to boot from it. This is PC hardware thing. Then you have to add one more Openstep driver as Instance1 under Configure.app and configure it properly. > My initial experiments with 2 Adaptec 2940 boards have not gone well, >but my lack of understanding of the PC boot process and BIOS issues could >well explain my difficulties. Symptoms so far are the system seems to >want to boot off the second conrtoller, but then the mach boot tries to >mount root from the first controller. So depending on which controller >the disk is on, it either won't boot (asks for a floppy) or panics when >it can't find a disk to mount. Sounds like a BIOS problem. When the Motherboard BIOS cannot find a bootable disk, it'll ask for a floppy that means your harddrive is not connected to the right controller for booting. Try to inactivate BIOS of one SCSI controller and see what happens. > Please reply to Louis.Eagle@tek.com I'll post my reply since other people might be interested, too. > Thanks. Hope that I'm helping you instead of making your situation worse. --- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Crystal Audio and Nextstep 3.3 Date: 18 Dec 1997 23:55:30 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <67cd5i$ba3$2@nexusgate.oche.de> Hi, I want to enable the Soundcard from Crystal which came with my new IBM Intellistation. I tried different drivers (Intel GX/Professional is supposed to work wih Crystal equipment), but nothing worked. Any hints? Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Need help partitioning large disk Message-ID: <ELFAnq.B74@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <ELEB2L.BB4@midway.uchicago.edu> <67bump$jf9$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:14:13 GMT In article <67bump$jf9$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>, Gregg E. Dinse <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> wrote: >In article <ELEB2L.BB4@midway.uchicago.edu> >tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes: >> In article <67bfqb$8in$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov>, >> Gregg E. Dinse <dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov> wrote: > >[my description of problem installing NEXTSTEP deleted, >along with part of the response] > >> So my suggestion is that: if you are happy with the >> behavior of the "disk" utility, leave it to do the >> work and relax; If you care only about the first >> partition, use "disk -p xxx". If you want total >> control of the partitioning, create a /etc/disktab. >> You just need to change the patition parameters. >> >> The bottom line is that NS3.3 (and lower?) will >> never create a NeXT partition size larger than 2GB. >> I just wonder if there is any fix to change this >> without going to OPENSTEP. > >You have missed my point. Maybe I did not state it very >clearly. Let me try again. > >My point is that NEXTSTEP would not install from scratch >(using the installation floppy and CD) on a new Seagate >ST34371N (4+ GB) disk. Forget about whether there were the >desired number of partitions or whether the partitions were >the desired sizes. The installation program would not work >because it "thought" there was only 52 MB available, which >is not enough to install basic NEXTSTEP operating system. > >I know about the 2 GB limit. I know that if I already have >NEXTSTEP running on a disk, then I can use the "disk" >command to partition a different disk. I know there are >various ways to build a system on one disk if NEXTSTEP is >running on another disk. > >But what if I only have one disk and I want to install >NEXTSTEP? Or what if, for some other reason, I want to >install a fresh copy from the floppy and CD (rather than >from another hard disk)? I could not figure out how to >install NEXTSTEP on the entire disk. I figured out a trick >-- choose the option to set aside some space for DOS. This >worked, but it's not really what I wanted. Well, there are several ways you can get around with this problem: 1. Build a boot floppy (NS3.x) with "disk" command and use "disk" to partition your disk manually; 2. Boot from an OD if you have one; 3. Boot directly from the NS CD-ROM and create the partitions by hands; 4. Boot over the net and any other sources you can think of; 5. Follow NS FAQ 7.9 "How to partition a 4GB drive" and look for luck. > >The issue regarding the number and size of the partitions >formed when installing NEXTSTEP is of secondary interest to >me. What I found much more interesting is that if someone >did not know enough to set aside some space for DOS, then >the NEXTSTEP installation program would not work with this >otherwise fine (and large) disk. I would not recommend to mix BSD partition with DOS one(s). I do not know how you can reuse the DOS partition without disturbing the NS/BSD partition. > >I know that if NEXTSTEP "thinks" there is enough room on a >large disk, then it creates equal-sized partitions, the >number of which are not always easily predictable (at least >not by me). I would have guessed that it would create the >smallest number of equal-sized partitions such that this >common size is less than the (2 GB) limit. Sometimes it >creates more than that, though. For example, rather than >splitting a 4.2 GB disk into three 1.4 GB partitions, I've >seen it create four 1.05 GB partitions. > >Even though this seems to be the behavior when the disk is >an "appropriate" size, there are some disks for which >something other than this "equal-sized" algorithm is used. >For the Seagate ST34371N (and I think the Quantum XP34550S >as well), the sizing algorithm used in the installation >program decides that the disk is not large enough, even >though it is probably 15-20 larger than what gets loaded >for the base system. I was simply venturing a guess that >the algorithm uses some modulo 2 GB function that results >in the installation program thinking the disk is the size >of the remainder after integer division of the true disk >size by the 2 GB limiting factor. > >This last part is just my wild guess, but the first part is >not. Certain programs within NEXTSTEP "think" that a 4+ GB >disk is only 52 MB. This is the part I'm curious about. > >Any clarifications would be appreciated. Thanks, > >Gregg Well, I do not know how NS installation program does the partitioning, but I guess similar command as "disk" or some sort. Actually someone suggested using this method to partiton the drive (in NS FAQ). As far as I've tried, a plain "disk" command divide a 2.5GB into 2 partions, and a 5GB into 3 partitions, all of the same size. Maybe "disk" is not predictable, I do not know. By the way, can we use OPENSTEP to create the >2GB partitions and use the disk with NS3.X? Probably not, I guess. Hope this helps.
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 01:46:04 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971219012744.32603A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 18 Dec 1997, Tired of Spam wrote: > This is true. > > My guess is that the extra weight made it not such a good idea for the color > monitor. Actually, I think the real reason why the color screens are unremarkable in design (unlike the mono models) is that they were manufactured by other companies (Fimi, Philips, Sony for the 17" screens, Hitachi for the 21"). The only real changes specified by NeXT were the scanning frequencies and the black casing. They don't even have a NeXT logo on the front (though they do on the model decal on the rear). IIRC, NeXT didn't actually build the mono tubes or circuitry themselves, but they did specify the design details (courtesy of Frogdesign, the same company that designed the original Macintosh). I believe final assembly also took place at NeXT's facilities. These screens (in their 3 variants) do have a NeXT logo on the front and the distinctive stands (although the N4000B stand is a cheaper, less bulky plastic design than the rolling magnesium stands of the original N4000/N4000A style, to which the original poster was probably referring.) From a purely aesthetic, industrial design standpoint, I find the Sony Trinitron screen to be the best match to black hardware, even though the 21" Hitachi has arguably superior display characteristics. The other color displays sold by NeXT IMHO look clunky and old compared to the Sony, even with their black cases. -Isaac
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <67d5f7$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <67d5f7$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Date: 19 Dec 1997 06:55:13 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.67d5f7$9dc@sjx-ixn2.ix.netcom.com> Sender: <pfarson@ix.netcom.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:06:37 -0700 Organization: Blues Industrial Message-ID: <jak-1912970006380001@ss10-14.inre.asu.edu> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <m3ra7agtn9.fsf@vamp.oz.net> In article <m3ra7agtn9.fsf@vamp.oz.net>, Ryan Watkins <vamp@vamp.org> wrote: >Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> writes: > >> Hi, I have just been told by DeepSpaceTech that the color moniter with >> the turbo slab doesn't come with the angled stand - I was sure this was >> not the case, anyone know different? That stand is an integral style >> factor... > >The color monitors didnt have the neat angled stand. That was only >the mono monitors. Not even all of those. Only the N4000A (non-ADB). john -- --- - ------- ------- In the year 2000... "In an effort to become even more politically correct, schools will no longer refer to George Washington as "our first president", but as "a mentally-challenged Asian-American in a wheelchair". - Andy Richter jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: Jean <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help! boot question Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 03:06:49 -0500 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <349A2B19.DFBB4E57@fas.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi group! Just got a new problem when I boot. My NextStation gets stuck when it gets to the Starting YP Services message. Anyone ever experience this? Jean
From: Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:59:17 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Message-ID: <349A3766.7D5@wsunix.wsu.edu> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.971219012744.32603A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine HAS a color turbo system, with the NeXT logo on the front AND the angled stand!! I've seen it! How is this possible?? Dave
From: "Hĺkan Jonsson" <Hakan_Johnsson@vtc.volvo.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Up-to-date info on NSFIP compatible chipsets? Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 10:44:47 +0100 Organization: Volvo Truck Corporation Message-ID: <349A420E.E77B026C@vtc.volvo.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I in the process of upgrading my computer and need up to date info on NSFIP 3.3 compatible chipsets. The info I found on the ftp sites and the web seemed to be quite old. Can anyone point me to newer information? Does anyone have any NSFIP 3.3 experience with the VIA Apollo VP2 chipset? /Hakan
From: Thomas McCarthy <tom@minus9.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:12:15 -0800 Organization: minus9, Incorporated Message-ID: <34999FBF.3C6D@minus9.com> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave wrote: > > Hi, I have just been told by DeepSpaceTech that the color moniter with > the turbo slab doesn't come with the angled stand - I was sure this was > not the case, anyone know different? That stand is an integral style > factor... > > Thanks! > Dave The "gooseneck" stand is indeed stylish, but it is only found on non-ADB, monochrome monitors. The color monitors are just to heavy for it. That said, you should know that even without that stand, the 21" NeXT monitor is one of the best looking monitors ever (IMHO). A color slab with 21" monitor positively screams "cool". Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: Michael Busted <mibu93ac@student.econ.cbs.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printer on a PC running NS3.3? Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 15:35:42 +0100 Organization: Copenhagen Business School Message-ID: <349A863E.D4344149@student.econ.cbs.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've heard that the NeXT Laser Printer interface is proprietary, taking advantage of NeXTSTEP's built-in PostScript capabilities to essentially remove all rendering hardware from the printer. However, is it possible to connect the Laser Printer to Intel/PC-equipment using NEXTSTEP 3.3? Michael Busted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Can not switch turbo+ND boot console screen !! Message-ID: <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:36:09 GMT This is the first time I play with a turbo+ND system. Maybe some people can shed some light on this. This machine runs NS 3.3, has internal HD and FD. When I boot the machine, the boot console is the mono. Then it hands over the control (login console) to the color display. I tried several things with Perference.app, such as turn the mono on and off, then login as "exit". None of them seems work. Also, I can not turn off the machine using "power off" and "restart" buttons on the login console. The machine just hangs and does not have a clean power-off. I did try "shutdown" and "halt" from root shell, it returns me back to the mono root boot console. There is just no way I can switch the boot console to the color display, which I prefer to keep as the only display. Another thing is that when I boot without connecting any of the external HDs (user files), the machine did not boot and reported SCSI bus hang message. This should not be. I noticed that the turbo MB has a ROM version of 3.1 (1993). Does this make any difference? I did not have any problem working with the non-turbo ND. Everything works just fine. Thanks for any help.
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@saljut.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 1480 PCMCIA/Card Bus with OpenStep 4.2/Mach? Date: 19 Dec 1997 15:46:45 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <67e4t5$6oi$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Hi, does anybody know if the Adaptec 1480 (PCMCIA/CardBus) SCSI-Adapter works with OpenStep 4.2/Mach? TIA, Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+44 181 8809709 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".m"
From: eisbaer@fear.ch (eisbaer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: In search for a Mouse for my NeXT Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:51:54 +0100 Organization: fear ccl Message-ID: <eisbaer-1912971651540001@beloved.fear.ch> Hi I just got my first NeXT, but the Mouse doesen't work well. Does Anybody know, where someone can buy a new one or does somebody has a Mouse for sale? thanks a lot. tom <!-- name : tom gresch --> <!-- dep : arctic department --> <!-- org : fear.ch --> <!-- more : http://www.fear.ch/eisbaer/ -->
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer on a PC running NS3.3? Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:27:15 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971219112046.1238B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <349A863E.D4344149@student.econ.cbs.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Michael Busted <mibu93ac@student.econ.cbs.dk> In-Reply-To: <349A863E.D4344149@student.econ.cbs.dk> On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, Michael Busted wrote: > I've heard that the NeXT Laser Printer interface is proprietary, taking > advantage of NeXTSTEP's built-in PostScript capabilities to essentially > remove all rendering hardware from the printer. However, is it possible > to connect the Laser Printer to Intel/PC-equipment using NEXTSTEP 3.3? This is a FAQ. The NeXT FAQs are located at <http://www.peanuts.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.toc.html> The answer to your question is no, now and forever. The only way to use a NeXT Laser Printer from non-NeXT hardware is to host the printer on a NeXT and serve it across the network. If you're already running NEXTSTEP on your PC, this is a no-brainer. -Isaac
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium II Date: 19 Dec 1997 17:28:50 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <67easi$39v$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <Pine.NXT.3.96.971215164904.2609A-100000@rjacobs.stanford.edu> <6785sp$d2@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <6797dj$6n1$1@xmission.xmission.com> Cc: kris@xmission.xmission.com In <6797dj$6n1$1@xmission.xmission.com> planetary wrote: > Juergen Grieb <juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> wrote: > > : I would like to know how much faster the P II 233 is with NS compared > : to the P 233. Is the P II worth the extra money or is speed > : improvement not worth mentioning? > > The PII 233 is going to kick butt all over the P 233, especially in video > with write posting enabled. Yes! > However, I doubt there is a huge performance difference between the PII > 233 and the PPro 200. But there is a significant price difference. Not really. The extra cache didn't seem to make much of a difference in some of my benchmarks. I suspect others MAY show more difference. PII 233 is about $400, PII 200 (256) $380. Actually ran some tests on a P6SKE MB which has a Slot 8 and Slot 1 so one can run either PII or P-Pro on SAME MB. Clock for clock the P-Pro with 256K cache kept up nicely with the PII (512K cache). Both on NXBench and dhrystone. Unfortunately unless I get some better cooling I can't keep my P-Pro @ the 240Mhz @ 3.5x68 as with the PII (can't disable turbo mode on MB). Frankly the Abit PS6 MB I have which is set to 225=75x3 gives significantly better NXBench scores than 233 or 240 since a few of the NXBench tests scale with PCI bus speed nicely. And it seems to be neck and neck @ dhrystone If anyone is considering getting a PII box I'd highly recommend getting a Abit LX6 ($170) and nab a PII 233. Check out Tom's hardware guide on overclocking (the ABIT LX6 supports up to 100Mhz in BIOS.. Like you'll get that). But in Tom's pages you'll find some discussion about how Intel is getting 90% yields on the 300Mhz PII's and they are crippling them to sell 233 & 266's by not allowing the chip to work @ the clock multipliers higher than 3.5(233) or 4(266). But it is rumored that one can clock the PCI higher so that a multiplier of 3.5 will get you 300Mhz (if your chip, MB, and PCI components can handle 83Mhz).. I can't confirm this. But I suspect it is true. How intel will handle this little glitch in the future I can't say. Though it would be nice if someone could get a MB that can clock to 75 or 83Mhz bus and drop a PII in there.. I havn't done this myself yet but I suspect a PII 300Mhz running at 4x75 or 3.5x83 = 300Mhz would be a very nice box.. Some pieces of the display functions will scale with PCI bus, others scale directly to cpu. So 66-75 or 83 MHz you'll see 13-25% increase in those areas. And from 233-300 again about 20%. So taking a 233=4x66 and comparing to a 300=4x75 should see 15-25% improvement across the board. I'm finding disk thouroput to be the limiting factor nowadays and it's clear that x86 is going to be limited by Mhz soon, where as PPC is poised to make some dramatic gains.. The next 6-15 months will be interesting. Hopefully Apple will get their $#^& together and get Multiple processor support going then we'll really see if x86 or PPC is the real performance winner like many of us expect. Though $$/performance is another question that remains to be seen. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com argus dot cem dot msu dot edu spammers works also :) Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) PS. If folks are really interested in obtaining PII 300Mhz boxes running with 75Mhz busses but are a little daunted by overclocking you can feel free to contact me as for around $250 bux+ship above my cost I'll purchase, test, and custom configure your box for you. I don't want to handle monitors though so you'd be on your own there.
From: Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Moniter Seen With Angled Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:51:03 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Message-ID: <349AC679.7F09@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Everyone is telling me that the color moniters didn't come with the angled stand - but I have SEEN one! A guy I know has a color turbo with an angled stand, color moniter (adb) and the next logo on it. A prototype perhaps? Anybody else seen one of these? Dave
From: Thomas McCarthy <tom@minus9.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Moniter Seen With Angled Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:13:03 -0800 Organization: minus9, Incorporated Message-ID: <349AC73E.5399@minus9.com> References: <349AC679.7F09@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave wrote: > > Everyone is telling me that the color moniters didn't come with the > angled stand - but I have SEEN one! A guy I know has a color turbo with > an angled stand, color moniter (adb) and the next logo on it. A > prototype perhaps? Anybody else seen one of these? > How about a picture? I'd be happy to scan it for you if you haven't got a scanner... Tom ---------- Thomas mcCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: sieg@xxx.uni-muenchen.de (Arne Sieg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip panic crashes hard drive Date: 19 Dec 1997 21:00:57 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <67ena9$gg@pizzastation.ppp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <19971216022301.VAA20421@ladder01.news.aol.com> <19971216041901.XAA27083@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) wrote: >Sorry, should've looked at dejanews first. > >I found the instructions on using reasb and did this, as shown below, then >tried running fsck once again. > >None of the files listed seem to be the ones I'm concerned about recovering. > >What should I do next? Run /fsck -y /dev/rsd1a? > >If the reasb command on 45504 was successful why does it show up as a problem >in the fsck still? > . >localhost:1# /usr/etc/reasb /dev/rsd1h 45504 -r >...Trying to recover block 45504(d) >...block 45504(d) recovered after 1 attempts >...Reassigning block 45504(d) >...Block 45504(d) reassigned >...Block 45504(d) data restored >localhost:2# /usr/etc/fsck -n /dev/rsd1a >** /dev/rsd1a (NO WRITE) >** Last Mounted on / >** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes >PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45504 >CLEAR? no > >PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45505 >CLEAR? no > >PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45506 >CLEAR? no > >PARTIALLY ALLOCATED INODE I=45507 >CLEAR? no > >UNKNOWN FILE TYPE I=45508 >CLEAR? no > . > >** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups >BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS >SALVAGE? no > >14582 files, 240017 used, 595759 free (1063 frags, 74337 blocks, 0.1% >fragmentation) >File system may not be clean! Run fsck again to clean. > When I connected my dat tape drive, I got the same problems. It was an scsi termination problem. Do you use an active terminator? If not, try one before killing your system disk with endless fsck`s. -- Arne Sieg +++ exchange xxx with informatik to reply +++ "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =-
From: Mike Iampietro <mikei@no.address> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: newbie with cube Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:59:12 -0800 Organization: Pinnacle Systems Inc. Message-ID: <349AEE2F.72EE76B8@no.address> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I rescued a NeXT cube from our company scrap heap. Only problem is that no one remembers the login name and password. Is ther a way to bypass the login? -- Mike Iampietro Senior Product Manager Pinnacle Systems Inc. mikei@no.address as a defense against spam I have deleted my reply to address to reply please replace no.address with pinnaclesys.com
From: Bob Beckwith <beckwith@NOSPAM.whinny.tdh.qntm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:47:15 -0500 Organization: Quantum Corp Message-ID: <349AF973.86A@NOSPAM.whinny.tdh.qntm.com> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.971219012744.32603A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <349A3766.7D5@wsunix.wsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dave wrote: > > A friend of mine HAS a color turbo system, with the NeXT logo on the > front AND the angled stand!! I've seen it! How is this possible?? > > Dave Umm, really good hallucinogens? ;-) If the "angled stand" is one of the stands with the little rubber "wheels" in front, then there never was an angled stand made for a color display. I think it had more to do with balance than weight. I know this 'cause I used to work in the NeXT hardware group. One afternoon we took one of those "angled stands" and drove a pickup truck up on it (OK, just one wheel (the left front)). The stand worked fine. So, to make sure we stressed it appropriately, we piled about 7 or 8 guys on top of the truck and then started jumping up and down (this is known as the "dynamic load stress test"). After about 5 or 10 minutes of this, the stand eventually broke. Sorry to burst any bubbles... --Bob -- Bob Beckwith To reply, remove NOSPAM. from the email address above.
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I RUN fsck MANUALLY on a SyQuest Date: 20 Dec 1997 01:07:09 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <67f5nt$638@cocoa.brown.edu> I have tryed to run fsck manualy ie I have typed onyx2:1# fsck /dev/rsd2a onyx2:2# usr/etc/fsck /dev/rsd2a onyx2:5# /usr/etc/fsck -P -b 1d000H -y /dev/rsd2a onyx2:6# /usr/etc/fsck -P -b 118784 dev/rsd1a onyx2:13# /usr/etc/fsck -P -b 59238 -y dev/rsd1a in a teminal window. But the machine runs ask me to insert the disk runs usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd1a and prints Disk Label: Quantum3 Disk Capacity 127MB, Device Block 512 bytes /usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd1a Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 1 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 2 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 3 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 4 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 5 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 6 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 7 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 8 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 9 sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11 SCSI Block in error = 118784; Partition a F.S. sector 59232 /dev/rsd1a: CANNOT READ: BLK 59232 /dev/rsd1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. in the console. ???How do I get fsck to run without the -p option???? How do I RUN fsck MANUALLY NeXTstation Mono-Turbo running NS 3.3 SyQuest EZ-135 Drive at Target 2 made bootable but can't boot from anymore Thank you, Andrew@cfm.brown.edu PS when I tried onyx2:3# /usr/etc/fsck -P -y dev/rsd1a I got dev/rsd1a: CANNOT READ: BLK 59232 dev/rsd1a: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. onyx2:4# from the teminal and Disk Label: Quantum3 Disk Capacity 127MB, Device Block 512 bytes Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 1 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 2 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 3 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 4 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 5 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 6 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 7 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 8 Target 2: MEDIA ERROR; block 1d000H retry 9 sd1 (2,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x11 SCSI Block in error = 118784; Partition a F.S. sector 59232 from the console Please ignore the ^M. I don't know where they came from.
From: Robert Worne <rworne at primenet dot com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: 19 Dec 1997 18:44:01 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized... sorry... Message-ID: <67f7t1$bpq@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <34999FBF.3C6D@minus9.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tom@minus9.com In <34999FBF.3C6D@minus9.com> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > The "gooseneck" stand is indeed stylish, but it is only found on > non-ADB, monochrome monitors. The color monitors are just to heavy for > it. That said, you should know that even without that stand, the 21" > NeXT monitor is one of the best looking monitors ever (IMHO). A color > slab with 21" monitor positively screams "cool". > Heck yeah! <pats his Turbocolor's 21" monitor> :-) -- Headers purposely screwed to avoid spam: rworne(at)primenet(dot)com //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: newbie with cube Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:32:49 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <349B203D.AE0CD122@bah.com> References: <349AEE2F.72EE76B8@no.address> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------5643911F2DCCBE5151A27CFE" To: mikei@pinnaclesys.com --------------5643911F2DCCBE5151A27CFE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, Here below is something someone posted b4: TC > Mark, > > Here are the notes from the old system manual. > > 1 Power the computer off and then on, using the Power key. > > 2 During the boot process, immediately after the the "Testing System" message > (if in graphical boot) is replaced by the "Loading from disk" message, hold > down the right command key and press the tilde symbol (~) on the numeric > keypad. This displays the ROM monitor window containing the prompt > > NeXT> > > WARNING: If the hardward password is set you must supply it. You can not > proceed beyound this point without it, if it is set. Since you wouldn't have > it, the apparent fix for this is to remove the battery for a day or more and > let the system loose its parameters. You should do a repost about that if > you need more information. > > > 3 Start up the machine in single-user mode by typing one of the folowing > commands at the ROM monitor prompt > > bsd -s (to boot from the hard disk) > bod -s (to boot from the optical disk) > ben -s (to boot from the Ethernet) > > The system will boot up into single user mode. When complete you will see a # > prompt. > > 4 At the single user prompt, start up the system services by typing the > following command: > > sh /etc/rc & > > You see a series of messages appear on the screen as the rc shell script > executes. During the process, NetInfo is started. > > 5 Set the root password. Enter: > > passwd root > > Your prompted twice for the new password. > > WARNING: When the root password is set, do NOT go to multiuser mode before > completing step 6. > > 6 Power the system off and then on again. After the system boots, you can > resure normal operation with the new root password. > > 7 Log in as root and add or update appropriate user names. You should never > use root as a general user account. Look in /NextAdmin for the User > software. > > > Darren > www.bcog.org/~dreely > Mike Iampietro wrote: > I rescued a NeXT cube from our company scrap heap. Only problem is that > no one remembers the login name and password. Is ther a way to bypass > the login? > > -- > Mike Iampietro > Senior Product Manager > Pinnacle Systems Inc. > > mikei@no.address > > as a defense against spam I have deleted my reply to address > to reply please replace no.address with pinnaclesys.com --------------5643911F2DCCBE5151A27CFE Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Mike, <P>Here below is something someone posted b4: <BR> <BR>TC <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> <PRE>Mark, Here are the notes from the old system manual. 1 Power the computer off and then on, using the Power key. 2 During the boot process, immediately after the the "Testing System" message (if in graphical boot) is replaced by the "Loading from disk" message, hold down the right command key and press the tilde symbol (~) on the numeric keypad. This displays the ROM monitor window containing the prompt NeXT> WARNING: If the hardward password is set you must supply it. You can not proceed beyound this point without it, if it is set. Since you wouldn't have it, the apparent fix for this is to remove the battery for a day or more and let the system loose its parameters. You should do a repost about that if you need more information. 3 Start up the machine in single-user mode by typing one of the folowing commands at the ROM monitor prompt bsd -s (to boot from the hard disk) bod -s (to boot from the optical disk) ben -s (to boot from the Ethernet) The system will boot up into single user mode. When complete you will see a # prompt. 4 At the single user prompt, start up the system services by typing the following command: sh /etc/rc & You see a series of messages appear on the screen as the rc shell script executes. During the process, NetInfo is started. 5 Set the root password. Enter: passwd root Your prompted twice for the new password. WARNING: When the root password is set, do NOT go to multiuser mode before completing step 6. 6 Power the system off and then on again. After the system boots, you can resure normal operation with the new root password. 7 Log in as root and add or update appropriate user names. You should never use root as a general user account. Look in /NextAdmin for the User software. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely</PRE> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Mike Iampietro wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I rescued a NeXT cube from our company scrap heap. Only problem is that <BR>no one remembers the login name and password. Is ther a way to bypass <BR>the login? <P>-- <BR>Mike Iampietro <BR>Senior Product Manager <BR>Pinnacle Systems Inc. <P>mikei@no.address <P>as a defense against spam I have deleted my reply to address <BR>to reply please replace no.address with pinnaclesys.com</BLOCKQUOTE> </HTML> --------------5643911F2DCCBE5151A27CFE--
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black monitor and Mac Date: 20 Dec 1997 02:23:23 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <67fa6r$u3v$1@news3.tufts.edu> I have a spare 21 inch black color monitor (came with a Color turbostation) that I was wondering if I could use with a Mac. I called Black Box to see if I could get a male 15-pin mac to 13w3 cable, and he said they could make one, but needed to know if the monitor was "composite sync", otherwise it might not be compatible with the mac. Does anyone know if it is, and what I'm trying to do is possible? Thanks. - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will a turbo cube motherboard work in a non-turbo cube? Date: 20 Dec 1997 04:22:55 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Message-ID: <67fh6v$n1v@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: pb The title pretty much says it all: Can one put a turbo mother board into a non-turbo cube, without modification? (If so, I would entertain offers of a turbo cube mother board....) Also, does anyone know why a cube has four slots? What boards (besides the ND) were made for cubes? Did NeXT have some interesting plans that never made it past the planning stage? Thanks in advance. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu
From: "Ethan" <dcspawn@hotmail.com> Subject: worth getting a NeXT box Message-ID: <01bd0d06$fc38fd00$36eb7ece@hamster> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:16:38 -0600 is it worth buying an old NeXT Station 33MHz Turbo computer? I do not know too much about next hardware, I usually deal with intel, other unix OSes... How is the preformance of a NeXT Station 33 MHz Turbo running NeXT Step 3.3 compared to other boxes? -ethan ebakshy@xsite.net
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a turbo cube motherboard work in a non-turbo cube? Date: 20 Dec 1997 07:01:34 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <67fqge$es9$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <67fh6v$n1v@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter <pb@Colorado.EDU> wrote: > >Also, does anyone know why a cube has four slots? What boards (besides >the ND) were made for cubes? Did NeXT have some interesting plans that >never made it past the planning stage? > Probably the Nubus development board ? A board with a breadboard side and the necessary glue chips for the slot. I still have one and never got the chance to work on that. TTFN, Paulus
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Format/Build Disk a SCSI HD in OS4.2 Intel use it in OS4.2 68K? Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 23:13:15 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <349BE08B.345FAAD5@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, This might be a stupid question for a newbie to the black hardware: Can I use a white Intel box that runs OS4.2 Mach with purely SCSI setup to format and Build OS4.2 Mach HD for use in a black NeXTStation Turbo Color? Thank you for your earliest attention. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year... Cheers & Ho Ho Ho, Tim Chong
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Turbo Moniter Stand Date: 19 Dec 1997 17:35:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <67eb9h$skk$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <349991A5.95E@wsunix.wsu.edu> <67cbd7$lup$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <Pine.LNX.3.96.971219012744.32603A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <349A3766.7D5@wsunix.wsu.edu> In article <349A3766.7D5@wsunix.wsu.edu>, Dave <davec@wsunix.wsu.edu> wrote: >A friend of mine HAS a color turbo system, with the NeXT logo on the >front AND the angled stand!! I've seen it! How is this possible?? Preproduction NeXT color monitors were based on Sony Trinitrons with the color NeXT logo in front. Brochures that I have indicate this. They had the generic Sony tilt and swivel stand, but not the gooseneck. It may be difficult to adapt it for a color monitor because the gooseneck is balanced for its intended monochrome monitor. One can always hack and remate these 3 separate components but I don't know about the difference in mount points between the gooseneck and 17" Sony. I should try it sometime. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: jimnickel@compuserve.com Subject: AMD K6 200 vs 233 Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 09:41:07 -0600 Message-ID: <882632272.618594307@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service I'm looking at AMD K6's. Can anyone tell me what are the performance advantages of the 233 over the 200. Thanks. Jim -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can not switch turbo+ND boot console screen !! Message-ID: <ELHMFq.A1K@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:23:49 GMT In article <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes: > > This is the first time I play with a turbo+ND system. Maybe some people > can shed some light on this. > > This machine runs NS 3.3, has internal HD and FD. When I boot the > machine, the boot console is the mono. Then it hands over the control > (login console) to the color display. I tried several things with > Perference.app, such as turn the mono on and off, then login as "exit". > None of them seems work. > Although I'm not an expert on ND-Cubes that's exactly what I'd expect it to do. So where's the problem? > Also, I can not turn off the machine using "power off" and "restart" > buttons on the login console. The machine just hangs and does not > have a clean power-off. I did try "shutdown" and "halt" from > root shell, it returns me back to the mono root boot console. > There is just no way I can switch the boot console to the color > display, which I prefer to keep as the only display. > That is a software problem. Some process isn't reacting to the SIGTERM signal. Might be a hacky implementation or a problem with a process getting stuck in an uniteruptible kernel routine. The serial line drive is known to ract in that way if it is running on a port that has a powered down device (ie. a modem) attached to it. Bu there more possibilities. Try to shut down processes manually (by sending them signal through 'kill'). If some suspected process isn't 'kill'able you got your culprit.., > Another thing is that when I boot without connecting any of the > external HDs (user files), the machine did not boot and reported > SCSI bus hang message. This should not be. > Termination problem. Most likely the internal segment of the SCSI-bus isn't terminated properly. BTW, are you sure there is a drive inside the Cube? -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: help! boot question Message-ID: <ELHMpA.A28@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <349A2B19.DFBB4E57@fas.harvard.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:29:34 GMT In article <349A2B19.DFBB4E57@fas.harvard.edu> Jean <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> writes: > Hi group! > > Just got a new problem when I boot. My NextStation gets stuck when it > gets to the Starting YP Services message. Anyone ever experience this? > The machine is configured to get parts of the network conf from a YellowPages server that it is unable to find. Are you sure there's a YP server on your network? BTW, the corresponding network startup instructions are found in /etc/hostconfig which is normally modified by runing SimpleNetworkStarter.app. A pristine version is to be found in /usr/templates/client/etc. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: In search for a Mouse for my NeXT Message-ID: <ELHMu8.A2z@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <eisbaer-1912971651540001@beloved.fear.ch> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:32:32 GMT In article <eisbaer-1912971651540001@beloved.fear.ch> eisbaer@fear.ch (eisbaer) writes: > Hi > > I just got my first NeXT, but the Mouse doesen't work well. Does > Anybody know, where someone can buy a new one or does somebody > has a Mouse for sale? > Deepspacetech used to sell them. A rewired Logitech bus mouse will also do. Dancing Bear used to sell adapters (together with replacement mice). And a recipe for do-it-yourselfers can be found in the FAQ on Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: newbie with cube Message-ID: <ELHnBx.A5D@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <349AEE2F.72EE76B8@no.address> Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:43:09 GMT In article <349AEE2F.72EE76B8@no.address> Mike Iampietro <mikei@no.address> writes: > I rescued a NeXT cube from our company scrap heap. Only problem is that > no one remembers the login name and password. Is ther a way to bypass > the login? > In case there was a hardware password (to guard the Boot Momitor) open the case, remove the battery from the main board for an hour and proceed with normal operations. In case of a lost root password: Boot into single user by holding down Right-'Command' and '~' simultaneously and enter 'bsd -s' at the Boot Monitor prompt. When you get the single user prompt '#' type 'sh /etc/rc &' and wait 'til the system initalization sequence terminated (two or three minutes) and type 'passwd root' at the prompt. You will then be asked for a new root password twice. After you succeeded reboot... And if you wanted to change the whole system configuration anyway, copy the files /usr/templates/client/etc/hostconfig and /usr/templates/client/etc/netinfo/* to /etc instead of the 'passwd' thing. This will give you an out-of-the-box configuration after rebooting. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Jean <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help! boot question Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:05:41 -0500 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <349C1705.CD24AF57@fas.harvard.edu> References: <349A2B19.DFBB4E57@fas.harvard.edu> <ELHMpA.A28@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <349A2B19.DFBB4E57@fas.harvard.edu> Jean > <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> writes: > > Hi group! > > > > Just got a new problem when I boot. My NextStation gets stuck when > it > > gets to the Starting YP Services message. Anyone ever experience > this? > > > The machine is configured to get parts of the network conf from a > YellowPages server that it is unable to find. Are you sure there's a > YP > server on your network? > > BTW, the corresponding network startup instructions are found in > /etc/hostconfig which is normally modified by runing > SimpleNetworkStarter.app. A pristine version is to be found in > /usr/templates/client/etc. I confess, I was trying to reconfigure the network instructions. :-( Is there any way to allow it to continue the boot process? Jean
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Cable Date: 20 Dec 1997 22:02:46 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <67hfa6$17h6$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <882408197.1836187659@dejanews.com> <34996caa.0@news.dca.net> dwright@universal.dca.net (Darren Wright) wrote: >wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu wrote: >> Hi,all. I recently got the Dimension board and installed it on my Cube. >> But I had no cable so I used the Y style cable from color turbo slab. >>... > > If you are doing a single headed display, with only the color >monitor, you will need the y-cable and a soundbox. If you are doing a >dual-headed system, then you will need the straight >thru 13w3 cable from the dimension to the monitor. No. For a color display only (i.e. off the ND board) you need a 13W3 ND monitor cable from the ND board to the color monitor, _and_ a separate mono monitor cable from the motherboard to a soundbox. For dual-headed system attach the mono monitor cable to a mono display instead of the soundbox. The Y-cable is for color NeXTstations _only_ - none of the cubes in any configuration integrate a color video signal with the keyboard/mouse/sound signals. The ND board has not such additional signals so attaching a Y-cable to it is going to do nothing. If you want color from a ND system you will have to have two cables, neither of which should be a Y-cable (though a Y-cable will suffice for the ND cable, albeit its probably too short and one of the plugs will be left dangling). - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a turbo cube motherboard work in a non-turbo cube? Date: 20 Dec 1997 22:13:41 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <67hful$17h6$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <67fh6v$n1v@lace.colorado.edu> pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) wrote: >Can one put a turbo mother board >into a non-turbo cube, without modification? The "turbo-ness" of a cube is determined soley by the motherbaord. The rest of the cube has no active circuitry so you can mix and match motherboards and cube cases to your heart's desire. There's only a suble difference with the older power supplies in cubes that makes some not work properly for single-headed NeXTdimension systems, but that has nothing to do with being Turbo or not (I can elaborate but its not relevant to the original question). >Also, does anyone know why a cube has four slots? For expansion, of course :-) >What boards (besides the ND) were made for cubes? A couple multi DSP boards and I think a special high speed interface baord (I don't know the details). For all practical purposes, the NeXTdimension board is 'it'. >Did NeXT have some interesting plans that never made it past the >planning stage? I don't think NeXT had any plans besides their ND board. I think the NeXTbus was added to allow third parties to develop expansion boards, which never took off. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can not switch turbo+ND boot console screen !!It Date: Sat, 20 Dec 97 16:10:25 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <971220155448-mpaque@wco.com> References: <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> of group comp.sys.next.hardware, Andrew Chang writes: > This machine runs NS 3.3, has internal HD and FD. When I boot the > machine, the boot console is the mono. Then it hands over the control > (login console) to the color display. I tried several things with > Perference.app, such as turn the mono on and off, then login as "exit". > None of them seems work. You should be able to set this up using the Preferences.app Monitors panel. Dragging the little 'login window' icon to the ND screen sets the boot screen also, by poking at a few bits in non-volatile RAM. If this doesn't work (as in your case), try logging in as root, running Preferences as root, and moving the login window icon to the monochrome screen. Close and re-open the Preferences panel, and move it back to the ND screen. There are a couple of things at work here. Some operations require root authority, including mucking with the non-volatile RAM. Preferences may be (wisely) insalled with it's Set-UID bit off. Also, many of the Preferences panels update only what has changed, and only appear to update things when the panel is closed. I don't recall how the Monitors pane is coded offhand. > Also, I can not turn off the machine using "power off" and "restart" > buttons on the login console. The machine just hangs and does not > have a clean power-off. I did try "shutdown" and "halt" from > root shell, it returns me back to the mono root boot console. > There is just no way I can switch the boot console to the color > display, which I prefer to keep as the only display. This happens when some process is stubbornly ignoring the shutdown signal and insisting on hanging around. (There's a funky technical explanation involving locked inodes, but you probably don't care about that.) The usual suspects include some versions of the SMB (samba) networking software, and some communications programs. Take a look around for any add-on software like this that might be causing the problem. > Another thing is that when I boot without connecting any of the > external HDs (user files), the machine did not boot and reported > SCSI bus hang message. This should not be. This sounds like a SCSI bus termination problem. Make sure the internal drive has terminating resistors properly installed, or the termination jumper set. (It is almost impossible to discover correct jumper settings for random drives without the OEM documentation, unfortunately.) You might be able to dig up a 50 pin ribbon cable SCSI terminator that coule be attached on the ribbon cable near the SCSI drive. I'd try Granite Digital for something like this (www.scsipro.com, or (510)471-6442) > I noticed that the turbo MB has a ROM version of 3.1 (1993). Does > this make any difference? It shouldn't. You might also check for a dead battery. That powers the NVRAM storage, and could be involved in your inability to get the boot screen to stick. Mike Paquette mpaque@wco.com "Troubled Apple Computer" and the "Troubled Apple" logo are trade and service marks of Apple Computer, Inc.
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Moniter Seen With Angled Stand Date: Sat, 20 Dec 97 16:12:48 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <971220161101-mpaque@wco.com> References: <349AC679.7F09@wsunix.wsu.edu> In article <349AC679.7F09@wsunix.wsu.edu> of group comp.sys.next.hardware, Dave writes: > Everyone is telling me that the color moniters didn't come with the > angled stand - but I have SEEN one! A guy I know has a color turbo with > an angled stand, color moniter (adb) and the next logo on it. A > prototype perhaps? Anybody else seen one of these? The Sony color ADB monitor base does have an unusual base that's angled a bit, although it's not as radical as the monochrome monitor, which was designed to permit keyboard storage on the base under the CRT. Mike Paquette mpaque@wco.com "Troubled Apple Computer" and the "Troubled Apple" logo are trade and service marks of Apple Computer, Inc.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical Drive Problem Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:52:51 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <67hp69$d7c@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> I just bought a Cube with an Optical Drive. Teh fellow who sold it to me assured me that it worked, but I'm skeptical. Even if he was wrong, I got a great deal on the cube. Anyway, since I have never seen a NeXT with an optical drive, I was wondering if someone could tell me if what I'm describing is a hardware problem or a software problem. The cube has a 25 MHz '040 board with about 24 Megs of RAM, an internal HD with 3.0 user and developer installed on it and a bunch of applications. If I start the cube and then pop in an optical disk, the disk drive will run and attempt to mount the disk, but after about 15 seconds of whirring, it stops and doesn't mount. Nothing flakey happens to the Operating System, it just doesn't mount the disk. I have tried several disks, but they all have the same problem, so it isn't the disk. No command becomes useable under the "Disk" menu. If I launch BuildDisk, after the OD in inserted, the app will attempt to launch, but will never succeed. If I attempt to Kill the app, it will not kill but will spawn a duplicate under the Inspector. I can do this lots of times and get lots of spawns. If I launch BuildDisk without an OD in the drive, I will get the menu allowing me to Build a disk. Optical Disk will be one of the options. Then I will get a system panic. I can't really read what the problem is because it scrolls so fast and I can't make the window bigger after a panic. If I attempt to boot from the OD, I get the whirring and clicking and then nothing and I have to end up booting from the hard drive. I have checked the connections and cleaned the drive with some compressed air. Anyone have any ideas? Mitch
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: 60ns SIMMS in a NeXTstation Turbo? Date: 21 Dec 1997 03:05:40 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <67i124$1kd@cocoa.brown.edu> I ordred 64MB of 70ns SIMMs. I got 64MB of 60ns SIMMs How will this effect the preformace of my NeXTstation Mono-Turbo? Better? Worse? Neither? ThanX, Andrew
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <18578882075626@digifix.com> Date: 21 Dec 1997 04:59:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <4893882680420@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. 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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Optical Drive Problem Message-ID: <ELIx22.Kz3@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <67hp69$d7c@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 05:10:50 GMT In article <67hp69$d7c@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >I just bought a Cube with an Optical Drive. Teh fellow who sold it to me >assured me that it worked, but I'm skeptical. Even if he was wrong, I got >a great deal on the cube. > >Anyway, since I have never seen a NeXT with an optical drive, I was >wondering if someone could tell me if what I'm describing is a hardware >problem or a software problem. > >The cube has a 25 MHz '040 board with about 24 Megs of RAM, an internal HD >with 3.0 user and developer installed on it and a bunch of applications. >If I start the cube and then pop in an optical disk, the disk drive will >run and attempt to mount the disk, but after about 15 seconds of whirring, >it stops and doesn't mount. Nothing flakey happens to the Operating >System, it just doesn't mount the disk. I have tried several disks, but >they all have the same problem, so it isn't the disk. No command becomes >useable under the "Disk" menu. > >If I launch BuildDisk, after the OD in inserted, the app will attempt to >launch, but will never succeed. If I attempt to Kill the app, it will not >kill but will spawn a duplicate under the Inspector. I can do this lots >of times and get lots of spawns. > >If I launch BuildDisk without an OD in the drive, I will get the menu >allowing me to Build a disk. Optical Disk will be one of the options. >Then I will get a system panic. I can't really read what the problem is >because it scrolls so fast and I can't make the window bigger after a >panic. > >If I attempt to boot from the OD, I get the whirring and clicking and then >nothing and I have to end up booting from the hard drive. > >I have checked the connections and cleaned the drive with some compressed air. > >Anyone have any ideas? > >Mitch I have an OD drive like this. The problem is the faulty optical pick-up/ spindle motor unit. I guess you are out of luck. It seems it's not worth your time trying to fix it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: SIMM speed and turbo MB... Message-ID: <ELIxA1.LB1@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 05:15:37 GMT Hi, while I was working with the turbo cube MB, I found something quite interesting. After I put 4 8MB 80ns SIMMs into the turbo MB, the ROM reports that they are 60ns!!! The FAQ says that this would be recognized as 100ns..... Any clue?
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: 60ns SIMMS in a NeXTstation Turbo? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:57:23 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <349CAFBF.4856C36@bah.com> References: <67i124$1kd@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Andrew Jones <andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu> Andrew, The Turbo machine will access the RAM at 70ns max so the 60ns will be access at 70ns only...no prob TC Andrew Jones wrote: > I ordred 64MB of 70ns SIMMs. > I got 64MB of 60ns SIMMs > > How will this effect the preformace of my > NeXTstation Mono-Turbo? > > Better? Worse? Neither? > > ThanX, > > Andrew
From: Sandra Almeida <gooeycat@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Default boot device not found" Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 10:35:49 -0800 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <349D6185.4389@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I just got an a NeXT Turbostation (Motorola 68040 chip), and decided to add an external SCSI hard drive. In the process of adding the hard drive, I managed to hose something, so that now when powering on the machine, I get the message "Default boot device not found", in the NeXT ROM monitor window. I can proceed by telling it to boot from sd0 (giving the command "bsd), but I'm having to do this every time I power on the machine. Can someone please tell me how to restore sd0 as the boot device? Thanks, SA
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From: "Tysvćr pedsenter" <pedsent@hesbynett.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tips on mainboard/processor for NS 3.3? Date: 18 Dec 1997 14:39:23 GMT Organization: Tysvćr kommune elevdatamaskin Message-ID: <01bd0a38$b81d0d80$980accc3@wingate.robin.no> Looking to upgrade my system. Currently an overclocked 90MHz pentium running at 100MHz, 64MB RAM, 256L2 cache on an INtel Endeavor Advanced/EV (Triton chipset) board. Have been wondering about a MMX pentium vs. PentiumPro vs. AMD K6. Dont have the cash (or need) for the Pentium II. Any advice as to what mainboards work (or esp. don't work), if higher bus speeds are o.k. (thinking of 75-83MHz instead of 66) and stability issues appreciated. Been to Toms Hardware guide, but need NeXTStep specific info, I know Linux and Win95/NT will go fine, but I'm not ready to give up NEXTStep. Please cc: followups to my email, thanks in advance. Regards, Thor -- NeXTStep, Linux, Wi...
From: epresley@heaven.org (The King) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT in Nebraska?? Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 08:34:02 -0600 Organization: Graceland Inc. Message-ID: <epresley-2112970834020001@xyp33p7.navix.net> Want to buy some old black hardware and play around with it mostly for fun. Curious if there are any users in my area (Lincoln, NE) that would be interested in giving me a demo before I leap into purchasing a system??? Thanks!
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Optical Drive Problem Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:21:15 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <67jfiv$cjr@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> References: <67hp69$d7c@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> <ELIx22.Kz3@midway.uchicago.edu> > > I have an OD drive like this. The problem is the faulty optical pick-up/ > spindle motor unit. I guess you are out of luck. > > It seems it's not worth your time trying to fix it. Oh well, the rest of the system is in basically mint condition. I guess I'll have to order a working OD from Orb. Mitch
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tips on mainboard/processor for NS 3.3? Date: 21 Dec 1997 16:39:39 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <67jgob$q9$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <01bd0a38$b81d0d80$980accc3@wingate.robin.no> Cc: pedsent@hesbynett.no Tysvfr pedsenter <edmtl@edb.uib.no> wrote: >Looking to upgrade my system. > >Been to Toms Hardware guide, but need NeXTStep specific info, I know Linux >and Win95/NT will go fine, but I'm not ready to give up NEXTStep. I'm using ASUS PiiT2P4 board with AMD K6-200 overclocked at 3x83 MHz and no problem with NeXTstep TTFN, Paulus posted & mailed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: black monitor and Mac Message-ID: <ELJAMB.FEA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <67fa6r$u3v$1@news3.tufts.edu> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 10:03:47 GMT In article <67fa6r$u3v$1@news3.tufts.edu> dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) writes: > I have a spare 21 inch black color monitor (came with a Color > turbostation) that I was wondering if I could use with a Mac. > I called Black Box to see if I could get a male 15-pin mac to > 13w3 cable, and he said they could make one, but needed to know > if the monitor was "composite sync", otherwise it might not be > compatible with the mac. Does anyone know if it is, and what > I'm trying to do is possible? Thanks. > Might be. The color monitors used to run at 1120 x 832 pixels, 68 Hz, non interlaced with synch on green. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Tired of Spam) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Driver for SoundBlaster AWE 64 Date: 17 Dec 1997 16:53:44 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <67902o$i3g$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <674d8v$d3s$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <678fkb$m6s$1@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: heller@lrz.de Have you disabled PnP on the soundcard and tried manually entering the settings into Configure.app? This is conjecture, but I have some PNP stuff which does not PNP under OS4.1 TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) Date: 17 Dec 1997 17:50:41 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <6793dh$a86$3@news2.digex.net> References: <3494a4f4.91764934@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> In jazz drive as only hard drive for openstep (if it works) comp.sys.next.hardware cloaked@fornospam.com writes, > > I went the database "nextanswers" and typed in jazz, found > plenty of listings, but think the only "Jazz" drive was: > which I don't think is "jazz" drive like I am thinking of. I really, > really hope I can just get a jazz drive and swap operating systems > back and forth, but don't know, Thanks to everyone! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Media Vision Jazz 16 > Overview is NeXTanswer #1731; Driver available from NeXTanswers > Media Vision Deluxe Sound Card > Media Vision Pro Sonic Sound Card just thought you might like to know, we have one machine here we are booting OpenStep 4.1 from that is a 135 meg Syquest EZDrive SCSI external. no other disks, no problems at all, not one :) cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Can not switch turbo+ND boot console screen !!It Message-ID: <ELK61L.76x@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> <971220155448-mpaque@wco.com> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 21:22:33 GMT In article <971220155448-mpaque@wco.com>, Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> wrote: >In article <ELFxwA.Mw9@midway.uchicago.edu> of group >comp.sys.next.hardware, Andrew Chang writes: > > >> This machine runs NS 3.3, has internal HD and FD. When I boot the >> machine, the boot console is the mono. Then it hands over the control >> (login console) to the color display. I tried several things with >> Perference.app, such as turn the mono on and off, then login as > "exit". >> None of them seems work. > >You should be able to set this up using the Preferences.app Monitors >panel. Dragging the little 'login window' icon to the ND screen sets >the boot screen also, by poking at a few bits in non-volatile RAM. > >If this doesn't work (as in your case), try logging in as root, running >Preferences as root, and moving the login window icon to the monochrome >screen. Close and re-open the Preferences panel, and move it back to >the ND screen. > >There are a couple of things at work here. Some operations require root >authority, including mucking with the non-volatile RAM. Preferences may >be (wisely) insalled with it's Set-UID bit off. Also, many of the >Preferences panels update only what has changed, and only appear to >update things when the panel is closed. > >I don't recall how the Monitors pane is coded offhand. > Well, I tried all the above. They do not work. I also tried the small utility program called "NDbootscreen", it did not work either. I even took out the MB battery. The ROM was reset, but the stubborn boot signals still go to the mono monitor. Any new ideas? >> I noticed that the turbo MB has a ROM version of 3.1 (1993). Does >> this make any difference? > >It shouldn't. You might also check for a dead battery. That powers the >NVRAM storage, and could be involved in your inability to get the boot >screen to stick. > > Mike Paquette mpaque@wco.com > The battery is fine (3V exact). I need to mention that the orignal ROM (ADB compatible) was replaced with this one. The previous owner did not have this console problem with the the ADB ROM. It seems this is the only direction I can go. I do not know what I can try if this ROM still can not resolve this problem. Thanks for the help.
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT MIDI interface Date: 21 Dec 1997 22:54:00 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <67k6m8$104$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <6768q9$icn$1@interport.net> <ELCLs6.HGn@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: >In article <6768q9$icn$1@interport.net> cable1@interport.net (lord cable) >writes: >> I just purchased a NeXT Station Color Turbo and i'd like to use it >> as a sequencer in my studio. I was told a mac serial midi interface >> would work, so i bought one. it turns out now that i need to make/get a >> special cable to this will work with my slab. >> >> does anyone have the pinouts for this or know where i can buy one? >> >The pinout is in the man-pages on 'zs'. For the less hardware minded, >there is a cookbook in the FAQ on Peanuts, AFAIK. While this is true, it's not sufficient. The problem with many Mac MIDI interfaces is that they very often draw power from the Mac serial line, or expect a specific pin to always be high voltage-wise. On the NeXT it's not, as this pin is used for hardware flow-control. The cable is somewhat complex, and highly dependent on the particular MIDI device. Some more expensive Mac MIDI devices have no trouble with NeXT serial ports; I suggest you grab documentation for the recent versions of MusicKit for guidance on using MIDI with a NeXT. You can probably get a pointer to MusicKit off of StepWise somewhere (http://www.stepwise.com). _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Default boot device not found" Date: 21 Dec 1997 23:51:37 GMT Message-ID: <19971221235100.SAA06239@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <349D6185.4389@ix.netcom.com> Try this: In ROM monitor at the next prompt type p this will prompt you for the boot device type sd and press return then control D and then return so you should see this NeXT>p Boot command?od (type sd here) DRAM tests?:yes? (type control D here) hit return NeXT>
From: Mike Paquette <mpaque@wco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SIMM speed and turbo MB... Date: Sun, 21 Dec 97 16:29:41 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <971221162418-mpaque@wco.com> References: <ELIxA1.LB1@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <ELIxA1.LB1@midway.uchicago.edu> of group comp.sys.next.hardware, Andrew Chang writes: > > Hi, while I was working with the turbo cube MB, I found something quite > interesting. After I put 4 8MB 80ns SIMMs into the turbo MB, the ROM > reports that they are 60ns!!! The FAQ says that this would be recognized > as 100ns..... Well, if all 4 of the SIMMS are the same, then I'd suspect that they are mis-coded. There's a group of pins that are pulled up/down to encode the SIMM speed. Back in the Bad Old Days the hardware techs at NeXT found that a number of PC parts vendors mis-coded their SIMMs. Seems that it didn't matter, as on many PC BIOS config programs, one had to set the speed manually. We sort of insisted that the ones we shipped were properly encoded. Mike Paquette mpaque@wco.com "Troubled Apple Computer" and the "Troubled Apple" logo are trade and service marks of Apple Computer, Inc.
From: bhchen@rice.edu (Bing-Hung Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable adapter -- NeXT color monitor Date: 17 Dec 1997 21:37:44 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <679gn8$r9d$1@joe.rice.edu> Help!! Is there anyone knowing where to buy a cable adapter to connect NeXT station and a "normal" RGB color monitor? We bought a NeXT station with a 17" MegaPixel color monitor. Unfortunately, the monitor was broken. Therefore we are using a 17" RGB color monitor with a very special adapter, since NeXT station used a very special format of cable -- a dimension of sub-D 25 pin but with three pins for RGB. That adapter connects to the monitor cable from NeXT station in one end and has 3 normal BNC (RGB) connectors in the other end. Unfortunately, the blue end of that adapter was broken. Now the question is where and how to find this special adapter? Can anyone give me an idea? Many thanks.
From: Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: advice on booting diskless slab- Corrected Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:50:30 -0600 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Message-ID: <34984926.68E7@why.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OOps , the last one had an old email address in the signature. Here goes :- Hi, I am getting yet another Turbo slab, sans HD. Here's my plan:- First create a bootable 3.3 floppy with the BootFloppy script, then use that to boot the diskless slab. I have an old IBM 160 Mb drive that I plan to connect to the internal SCSI connector and format that from the bootfloppy . Now, if that doesnt work, What standalone utilities do I need to connect as a single user thru Ethernet to my other slab and use the resources there to format the IBM drive and live happily ever after ?????? Thanks -- Hari Rajagopal 214-828-4791 webpage: http://users.why.net/grimgaunt e-mail: grimgant@kodak.com
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From: Mark Stankus <mstankus@oba.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Forgot root password Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:36:29 -0800 Organization: Lab for Mathematics and Statistics @ UCSD Message-ID: <3498700D.41C67EA6@oba.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: mstankus@calpoly.edu Hi, I have a old black next computer and I moved and forgot my root password. The guy at enterprise.apple said that I could look up changing the too password on nextanswers, but I did not find it. Could someone tell me how to do this? By the way, this is my computer. I did not steal it. Mark Stankus mstankus@calpoly.edu (Professor)
From: Jean <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Starting YP Services Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 02:12:42 -0500 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <3498CCE9.36C6DFA9@fas.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi group! Just got a new problem when I boot. My NextStation gets stuck when it gets to the Starting YP Services message. Anyone ever experience this? Jean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: 8.4 Gig harddrive with NS 3.3 on black? Message-ID: <ELCJqB.HBA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <672eb4$283@slip.net> Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:37:22 GMT In article <672eb4$283@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > Hi, > > If I install a 8.4 Gig hard drive on a Cube > will NS3.3 create 5 usable partitions such > that all 8.4 Gigs are available? > Yes, if you create a valid 'disktab' entry first. You must tolerate that several utilities report a wrong total capacity but 'disk' should partiton correctly and the rest would just work as long as patitions stay below 2 GB. At least it did for my 4+ Gig drive. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on booting diskless slab Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:48:48 -0600 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Message-ID: <349848C0.238E@why.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am getting yet another Turbo slab, sans HD. Here's my plan:- First create a bootable 3.3 floppy with the BootFloppy script, then use that to boot the diskless slab. I have an old IBM 160 Mb drive that I plan to connect to the internal SCSI connector and format that from the bootfloppy . Now, if that doesnt work, What standalone utilities do I need to connect as a single user thru Ethernet to my other slab and use the resources there to format the IBM drive and live happily ever after ?????? Thanks -- Hari Rajagopal 214-828-4791 webpage: http://users.why.net/grimgaunt e-mail: grimgaunt@why.net
From: boom@sonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: 22 Dec 1997 14:01:52 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67lrsg$bm1$1@news2.digex.net> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> In NetBSD/NeXT - interested? comp.sys.next.hardware billc@warped.com (William Coldwell) writes, > Since 4.2 appears to be the end of life for the Nextstep/Openstep software, > that leaves our wonderful black hardware high and dry. I've got enough > people together who are interested in working on the port (but more are > always welcome!) to make it happen. But, you gotta do something. > > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! > > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > Minimum to get it booted: > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > (to netboot it) > > Bonus points for: > To make it usable: > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > o - Floppy controller > > If this information appears magically in my emailbox, we'd be very grateful. > > More information on The NetBSD Project can be found at www.netbsd.org. > > -- > -- > William J. Coldwell r Warped Communications, Inc. > email: billc@warped.com a a p e ? 1601 Civic Center Drive #200 > http://www.warped.com I m W e ! r y u Santa Clara, California 95050 > direct: 408.346.0105 d A o 408.248.WARP FAX:408.GET.WARP Hiho just wanted to make sure that i understand: you guys are porting netBSD to the NeXT black hardware? i don't have the register map, but can definately say that the - serial chip is a Z8530 - SCSI chip is a 53C90 - the specs just say that the eth. is "IEEE 802.3 compatible" i am checking into more detail and will post here when/if its found. cheers erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 07:34:19 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <67ltpc$4fu$1@news.xmission.com> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit William Coldwell wrote: > [...] > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! > > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > Minimum to get it booted: > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > (to netboot it) > > Bonus points for: > To make it usable: > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > o - Floppy controller Along the same lines, I'm also interested in seeing a freeware version of X Windows ported to NeXT hardware. In my case, besides the above mentioned framebuffers, one would also need internal specs on the NeXTDIMENSION board, including how to program the Intel 860 CPU. (Intel's Web site doesn't give any information about this processor, other than to say another processor was derived from it.) If you find some of these specs, William, I'd like to know where to get them too. To help you get started, I remember a VMEbus system to which I had recently ported a real-time OS uses the Z85230, and I found an online programming manual for it on the Web. The URL is http://www.zilog.com/frames/serial/scc_escc_iscc_manual/scc_iscc.html -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <67mpti$237$400@news.nacamar.de> Control: cancel <67mpti$237$400@news.nacamar.de> Date: 22 Dec 1997 22:34:28 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.67mpti$237$400@news.nacamar.de> Sender: Information<NotImportant@not.now> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: 22 Dec 1997 22:49:31 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <67mqpr$819$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> billc@warped.com (William Coldwell) wrote: > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > Minimum to get it booted: > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > (to netboot it) Try /usr/include/architecture/zs85C30.h Also, everything in /usr/include/bsd/dev/m68k, which includes framebuffer definitions, DMA, low level parts of the EVS driver; also /usr/include/architecture/m68k has some more stuff, including the interrupt definitions... > Bonus points for: > To make it usable: > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > o - Floppy controller /usr/include/architecture/{adb_bus.h,adb_kb_codes.h,adb_kb_map.h} You might find the user-mode side of the EVS driver interesting, at /usr/include/drivers/event_status_driver.h. All of these references are for OPENSTEP 4.2. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: sugar <sugar@fan.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: System Crashes Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:29:46 +1000 Organization: Fast Access Network Message-ID: <349F05FA.86F44B0@fan.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cache-Post-Path: subsonic.fan.net.au!unknown@203.20.93.78 I have a problem with system crashes. The PC reports a blue screen hexidecimal error message, at this point only a warm boot recovers the system. "0028C002F545 VXD VPICD The messages differs, but still the same format. I have tried several crash protection programs with little effect. The system is a P200 cyrix, 32mg ram running Windows 95. Have you any info that may help this frustrating situation. Regards Graeme
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From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: System Crashes Date: 23 Dec 1997 09:44:59 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <67o16r$8np$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <349F05FA.86F44B0@fan.net.au> sugar <sugar@fan.net.au> wrote: >I have a problem with system crashes. The PC reports a blue screen >hexidecimal error message, at this point only a warm boot recovers the >system. >"0028C002F545 VXD VPICD > >The messages differs, but still the same format. I have tried several >crash protection programs with little effect. The system is a P200 >cyrix, 32mg ram running Windows 95. > >Have you any info that may help this frustrating situation. I am assuming your asking about running NextStep or OpenStep on that Cyrix box. Thats a no go. The Cyrix causes problems for NS & OS. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
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From: wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu Subject: Q:Dimension Board Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:33:07 -0600 Message-ID: <882408197.1836187659@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Hi,all. I recently got the Dimension board and installed it on my Cube. But I had no cable so I used the Y style cable from color turbo slab. Everything looks O.K. but end of booting system goes to panic. When I diconnected the color monitor from Y style cable, there is no problem. System boots without problem. My question is that I need a special cable for Dimension board? I know that Deepspacetech sells the dimension cable. So I need that cable? or some hardware problem on my Dimension board? Any help or informaton are appreciated. Thanks in advance. Wonseok Baek -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: boom@DIESPAMsonyx.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: video conferencing? Date: 23 Dec 1997 13:50:39 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net> has anyone gotten anything like video conferencing going on NeXTStep or OpenStep ? either Motorola or Intel ... thanks in advance for any help erik scheirer sonYx, Inc.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: video conferencing? Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:55:39 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <67omqq$u8@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> References: <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net> In article <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net>, boom@DIESPAMsonyx.com wrote: > has anyone gotten anything like video conferencing going on NeXTStep or OpenStep ? either Motorola or Intel ... > > thanks in advance for any help > erik scheirer > sonYx, Inc. I haven't tried this, but I was wondering if it would be possible to hook a video camera to a NeXTdimension board, and NXHost the output to another Cube and vice versa to do video conferencing. Anyone have any ideas? BTW, I remember a post sometime ago that some fellow was putting together a program to operate a QuickCam from a NeXT system (I don't remember if it was Black or Intel). Maybe someone else can update us on that. Mitch
From: bhchen@rice.edu (Bing-Hung Chen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable adapter for a color monitor Date: 23 Dec 1997 18:48:33 GMT Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas Message-ID: <67p121$f0h$1@joe.rice.edu> References: <34983502.4358@rice.edu> <ELE83B.KpL@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki (Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org) wrote: : In article <34983502.4358@rice.edu> Bing-Hung Chen <bhchen@rice.edu> : writes: : > Help!! : > : > Is there anyone knowing where to buy a cable adapter for a color monitor : > to replace the broken MegaPixel monitor? : > : > We bought a NeXT station with a 17" MegaPixel color monitor. : > Unfortunately, the monitor was broken. Therefore we use a 17" RGB color : > monitor with a very special adapter. That adapter connects to the : > monitor cable from NeXT station in one end and has 3 normal BNC (RGB) : > connector in the other end. Unfortunately, the blue end of that adapter : > was broken. : > : > Now the question is where and how to find this special adapter? : > : In case Deepspacetech has none in their offer, SUN used to have the same : connectors and there are some suppliers who sell such adapters for SUN... : -- : Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth : Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and : 76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 960575 # delight of being hooked : GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5 Thank you all. I have ordered one 13W3 to 3 BNC adapter from DeepSpace. They still have two after I order one. BH
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From: Clint Boggess <cboggess@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Notebook for OpenStep Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:26:25 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <34A01E71.6C708773@ix.netcom.com> References: <67ggeh$5j8@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit While reading an article about Jobs' address at the mac convention last spring I was looking at the photographs. I noticed that he was using openstep on an IBM thnkpad 560 (the ultraportable one) I have not tried to install ns on one, but you may want to look at that model. ahoesch@on-luebeck.de wrote: > Hello, > > I'm going to purchase a notebook for use with OpenStep 4.2. > Can anyone give me a recommendation? > > Must it be possible to run the floppy and the CD-ROM simultaneously to > install OpenStep? > > Thanks in advance! > > Andreas Hoeschler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Message-ID: <aFukUclVyAvH@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 09:32:36 MDT References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <67mqpr$819$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: cswiger@blacksmith.com In <67mqpr$819$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger wrote: > billc@warped.com (William Coldwell) wrote: > > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > > Minimum to get it booted: > > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > > (to netboot it) > > Try /usr/include/architecture/zs85C30.h > > Also, everything in /usr/include/bsd/dev/m68k, which includes framebuffer > definitions, DMA, low level parts of the EVS driver; also > /usr/include/architecture/m68k has some more stuff, including the interrupt > definitions... > > > Bonus points for: > > To make it usable: > > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > > o - Floppy controller > > /usr/include/architecture/{adb_bus.h,adb_kb_codes.h,adb_kb_map.h} > > You might find the user-mode side of the EVS driver interesting, at > /usr/include/drivers/event_status_driver.h. > > All of these references are for OPENSTEP 4.2. > > -Chuck I don't think any of these files contain what Mr. Coldwell is looking for. The zs85C30.h file does contain bit definitions for each register but there are no physical I/O address mappings. That's what he needs. The dma.h file is completely useless. It simply contains some convenient defines to align your data on the proper boundary. Again, no physical mappings for the dma registers. The evio.h and evsio.h would be useful for programming, once he knew what addresses to actually read/write the mouse and video data at. In short, these headers are nice to have if the low-level drivers are already in place, but they are only minimally useful if you are the one who is writing the low-level drivers themselves. Hardware data!! We need down-to-the-iron hardware data!! :-)
From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No sound out of my SB16 (ViBRA16X) Date: 23 Dec 1997 22:16:43 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <67pd8b$8lg$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> I recently changed my sound card and buy a Creative SB16, to eventually get sound under NS 3.3. I had to play with Configure.app to get the card registered at boot, i.e. added the Auto Detect ID (i got from PnPDump at boot, see below) in Expert Panel : Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL00f0 s/n 0xffffffff Namely, this card is a ViBRA16X, here are boot messages : > Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: PnP: configuring Creative ViBRA16X PnP Audio > Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: SoundBlaster16 hardware version is 4.0 > Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: SoundBlaster16 at dma channels 1 and 5 irq 5 > Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: Registering: SoundBlaster16 BUT beside these cool lines, i can't get no _system_ sound from my card. Sound from the CD is correctly output by the rear "line-out" jack. When i try to play sound from - say - Sound.app the sound cursor stay at the begining of the window, and no sound out. In Preference no sound neither, but sound level is effective (for noise level). I checked BIOS registration for IRQ and DMA, swaping from free to reserved, with no success. ISA/EISA Bus driver is 3.36. I tried SB16 driver 3.35 and 4.01 with same result. I hope some help, and BTW there were LOT of messages about SB16 in this newsgroup but since .gz archives on Peanuts are hard to check via slow lines, is there a wizard to summarize SB16 "Howto" ? -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Message-ID: <bkfz2npWWH5p@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 10:12:07 MDT References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> William Coldwell wrote: > Since 4.2 appears to be the end of life for the Nextstep/Openstep software, > that leaves our wonderful black hardware high and dry. I've got enough > people together who are interested in working on the port (but more are > always welcome!) to make it happen. But, you gotta do something. > > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! > > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > Minimum to get it booted: > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > (to netboot it) > > Bonus points for: > To make it usable: > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > o - Floppy controller > > If this information appears magically in my emailbox, we'd be very grateful. > > More information on The NetBSD Project can be found at www.netbsd.org. > Aha. There was a rumored port of the ATT Plan9 operating system to Black NeXTs. The source code (available at the site below) has the hardware port addrress mappings for the NeXTstation. Very cool, and should be able to get you on your way. I have tracked down a hard location for that port: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/doc/port.html The document has this to say about the NeXT port: The NextStation operating system: Plan 9 runs on the 68040-based NeXTstation but on no other NeXT machine. This is actually one of our favorite ports: the crisp two-bit-per-pixel display is a delight. The one strange part is that we need a three-button mouse, so we unplug the NeXT mouse and use a 9600-baud serial-port Logitech mouse on serial port B. To get the system running, install NeXT's boot program in the TFTP directory (called /lib/tftpd on Plan 9) and /68020/9nextstation where BOOTP can find it (we put it in /68020/9nextstation). Boot that file from the network by typing ben /68020/9nextstation to the boot ROM. This will load the boot program and use that to load the real operating system. This can be made to happen automatically; see the NeXT manuals for details. This port could probably be made to run on the old 68030-based cubes without too much work. Like most manufacturers, NeXT kept the architecture pretty similar between models. The 68030 has a very different MMU, though, so the job won't be trivial.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Message-ID: <51mI+QKZsc+h@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 10:19:03 MDT References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> William Coldwell wrote: > Since 4.2 appears to be the end of life for the Nextstep/Openstep software, > that leaves our wonderful black hardware high and dry. I've got enough > people together who are interested in working on the port (but more are > always welcome!) to make it happen. But, you gotta do something. > > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! > > More specifically, I'm looking for: > > * - Physical address and register mappings for: > Minimum to get it booted: > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) > (to netboot it) > > Bonus points for: > To make it usable: > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) > o - Floppy controller > > If this information appears magically in my emailbox, we'd be very grateful. > > More information on The NetBSD Project can be found at www.netbsd.org. > Aha. There was a rumored port of the ATT Plan9 operating system to Black NeXTs. The source code (available at the site below) has the all the necessary hardware port addrress mappings for the NeXTstation. Very cool, and should be able to get you on your way. Here is the location for the NeXTstation port: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/doc/port.html The document has this to say about the NeXT port: The NeXTstation operating system Plan 9 runs on the 68040-based NeXTstation but on no other NeXT machine. This is actually one of our favorite ports: the crisp two-bit-per-pixel display is a delight. The one strange part is that we need a three-button mouse, so we unplug the NeXT mouse and use a 9600-baud serial-port Logitech mouse on serial port B. To get the system running, install NeXT's boot program in the TFTP directory (called /lib/tftpd on Plan 9) and /68020/9nextstation where BOOTP can find it (we put it in /68020/9nextstation). Boot that file from the network by typing ben /68020/9nextstation to the boot ROM. This will load the boot program and use that to load the real operating system. This can be made to happen automatically; see the NeXT manuals for details. This port could probably be made to run on the old 68030-based cubes without too much work. Like most manufacturers, NeXT kept the architecture pretty similar between models. The 68030 has a very different MMU, though, so the job won't be trivial.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: video conferencing? Message-ID: <hEF5$xib2nus@cc.usu.edu> From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 23 Dec 97 10:30:24 MDT References: <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net> <67omqq$u8@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <67omqq$u8@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > In article <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net>, boom@DIESPAMsonyx.com wrote: > > > has anyone gotten anything like video conferencing going on NeXTStep > > or OpenStep ? either Motorola or Intel ... > > > > thanks in advance for any help > > erik scheirer > > sonYx, Inc. > > I haven't tried this, but I was wondering if it would be possible to hook > a video camera to a NeXTdimension board, and NXHost the output to another > Cube and vice versa to do video conferencing. Anyone have any ideas? > > BTW, I remember a post sometime ago that some fellow was putting together > a program to operate a QuickCam from a NeXT system (I don't remember if it > was Black or Intel). Maybe someone else can update us on that. > That would be me. The QuickCam drivers and application run on Intel with the monochrome parallel-port version of the QuickCam. They are free, and are available on the archives as NXCam. I was toying with the idea of writing a video conferencing tool. Two things led me not to put much real work into it. First, I don't have the specs to write something that would be compatible with other programs out there for other platforms (cu-seeme comes to mind). An app that can't communicate with popular PC conferencing apps would be of limited usefulness. Secondly, with Rhapsody coming out soon, the big-boys will have ports of Mac software coming up fairly quickly (I would hope anyway). I'd appreciate feedback on the issue. Post here, I read regularly. Anti-spam issues keep me from putting my address out too often in public.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a turbo cube motherboard work in a non-turbo cube? Date: 23 Dec 1997 23:26:09 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <67phah$bj1$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <67fh6v$n1v@lace.colorado.edu> <67hful$17h6$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In <67hful$17h6$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) wrote: > >Can one put a turbo mother board > >into a non-turbo cube, without modification? > > The "turbo-ness" of a cube is determined soley by the motherbaord. The rest > of the cube has no active circuitry so you can mix and match motherboards and > cube cases to your heart's desire. There's only a suble difference with the > older power supplies in cubes that makes some not work properly for > single-headed NeXTdimension systems, but that has nothing to do with being > Turbo or not (I can elaborate but its not relevant to the original question). > > >Also, does anyone know why a cube has four slots? > > For expansion, of course :-) > > >What boards (besides the ND) were made for cubes? Motherboards? (talk to those 030/040 mixed system guys.. I never had the need) > A couple multi DSP boards and I think a special high speed interface baord (I > don't know the details). For all practical purposes, the NeXTdimension board > is 'it'. Breaking out my 1992 Software & Peripherials Catalogue I find the following. 1) Dazzl Analog-To-Digital Convertors - 16/12/200 is a 16-channel, 12-bit 200,000 samples/sec A/D convertor. Recording time limited only by diskspace they say (pg 58 btw) There is a 16/16/500 also. These fit in the NeXTBus slots (they say a cube is required) 2) Ariel QuintProcessor. 5 27Mhz DSP56001 chips which can enhance the Music kit and array processing library stuff. Intended for signal & array processing (pg 57) 3) IRCAM signal processing workstation. Uses 2 i860's with up to 64MB on each board. (3 boards can be put in a cube).. They include a development environment.. Up to 480MFLOPS & 240MIPS.. :) (pg 56) Want to know how much you COULD get one for? 1) 3-5K depending on model 2) 7K 3) 15K depending on RAM I think. That's all I see in that book. I'm sure those 3 letter agencies may have had some interesting stuff but it was all probably crushed when they sold their stuff out.. > >Did NeXT have some interesting plans that never made it past the > >planning stage? Yes NRW workstation (dual 88K's). Rumored to be working on the benches when NeXT dumped hardware in 93. Also the JPEG daughter card for the ND (ran too hot, and the CL550 didn't have a large enough FIFO (generated too many interrupts for the i860 to service)) Nitro CPU Daughter card (this does work, and there are at least 10 out there) > I don't think NeXT had any plans besides their ND board. I think the NeXTbus > was added to allow third parties to develop expansion boards, which never > took off. NeXT Bus was in the origional 030 Cube design. Also NeXT intended to include multiple processors on this backplane along with kernel support. Though to this day we still havn't seen MP support!! As to the NeXTBus it's seemed to be a glorified NuBus with a higher clock rate.. Though it's real world thruput wasn't that great.. I'm sure if you can get an engineer to speak up they'll have more to say but I suspect it's sour grapes, and water under the bridge to them.. And I'll ask again.. If anyone has any tech specs, schematics, software, etc. that didn't make it out for general consumption I'd love to see it (and I DO have some interesting stuff to trade!!). I know a lot of folks that really would love to be able to mess around with their mostly idle i860's.. But I guess I'm still dreaming . ... ..... ..ooooOOOOO zzzZZZZ Randy rencsok at channelu dot com argus dot cem dot msu dot edu spammers works also :) Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.)
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Installing OS on black HW Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 20:32:06 -0700 Organization: Blues Industrial Message-ID: <jak-2312972032060001@ss10-08.inre.asu.edu> Right now I'm having problems installing OS 4.2 on my mono Turbo slab's hard drive from scratch. I'm a NeXT newbie, I got all this NeXT stuff secondhand, and all I have is the CD. I'm using an Apple single-speed CD-ROM (should have no problems there). I can only operate from the ROM monitor, and I tried booting from the CD (using info from NeXTanswers) but it refuses to do so. Do I need a boot floppy? If so, where could I get the image? Nothing at www.next.com (like there is for 3.3)... Failing that, is there anyone in the Phoenix area that could help me out? thanks john (crossposted because I'm not exactly sure whether this is a software or hardware problem) -- --- - ------- ------- Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing OS on black HW Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:47:33 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A085D5.DB0F77C9@bah.com> References: <jak-2312972032060001@ss10-08.inre.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Kestner <jak@asu.edu> Okie, here's how John: First of all, get the Motorola NS3.3 boot floppy from NeXTanswer, URL as follows http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1921.htmld/1921.html Boot with floppy... and the SCSI CD-ROM connected with the OS4.2 Mach CD (I'm presumed this is the prelude to Rhapsody CD) inserted. At the prompt, type "bfd", your Turbo should continue to boot via the CD-ROM after a while (at least that's what I get last evening). Then the rest it's like installing OS4.2 on Intel, exactly the same as in the Prelude to Rhapsody manual. My only problem, if u can help John is I'm wondering if I'm fully utilitzing my 2063MB IBM Ultrastar ES (DORS 32160)... because when I do df, I got the followings: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity mounted on /dev/sd0a 1021301 465689 453481 51% / /private/vm/swapfile 1021301 465689 453481 51% /private/vm/swapfile.front Merry X'mas, n Happy New Year! Ho ho ho, Tim John Kestner wrote: > Right now I'm having problems installing OS 4.2 on my mono Turbo slab's > hard drive from scratch. I'm a NeXT newbie, I got all this NeXT stuff > secondhand, and all I have is the CD. I'm using an Apple single-speed > CD-ROM (should have no problems there). I can only operate from the ROM > monitor, and I tried booting from the CD (using info from NeXTanswers) but > it refuses to do so. Do I need a boot floppy? If so, where could I get the > image? Nothing at www.next.com (like there is for 3.3)... > > Failing that, is there anyone in the Phoenix area that could help me out? > > thanks > john > > (crossposted because I'm not exactly sure whether this is a software or > hardware problem) > > -- > --- - ------- ------- > Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Installing OS on black HW Date: 23 Dec 1997 21:01:39 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <67q4vj$e6s@slip.net> References: <jak-2312972032060001@ss10-08.inre.asu.edu> <34A085D5.DB0F77C9@bah.com> > >My only problem, if u can help John is I'm wondering if I'm fully utilitzing >my 2063MB IBM Ultrastar ES (DORS 32160)... because when I do df, I got the >followings: > >Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity mounted on >/dev/sd0a 1021301 465689 453481 51% / >/private/vm/swapfile 1021301 465689 453481 51% /private/vm/swapfile.front > If you put an entry into your /etc/fstab file like this : /dev/sd0b /u0 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 and reboot the rest of the space on your drive will be available in a directory named "u0". I'm not certain it's true with OS 4.2 but it is with NS 3.3 ; NextStep 3.3 can not handle partitions larger than 2 Gigs. It partitions the disk into chunks of equal size such that each partition is less than 2 Gigs. So what you currently see is half of the space available on the drive. Emmett
From: gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: INITIO 9100 SCSI Controller is compatible with NeXTSTEP? Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:50:19 GMT Organization: SKKU Message-ID: <34a24b43.14055088@news.shinbiro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! It is said that the initio scsi controller is compatible with adaptec controller. Then is it compatible with NeXTSEP, Rhapsody? Thank you in advance.
From: nick@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca (Mr. B. N. Bondoc) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color monitor sync question --- anyone done this? Date: 24 Dec 1997 14:54:12 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <xn3bty6v7ob.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have a rather specific qestion about the NeXT color monitors: do NeXT color monitors use sync-on-green or composite sync (just like SUN monitors)? I have checked the FAQ for the scan rates, and resolutions the sync information is not available I am looking to upgrading to a Color Turbo Station preferably ADB and hopefully with 13W3 connector it they exist ... and hope to conect a SUN 365-1063 / GDM 1604A15 to it, Is there anyone who has a spec sheet with this information for the SONY Trinitron model? I would appreciate having the information (willing to pay to get it too) Thanks, best wishes, nick -- B. N. Bondoc pager: 514 - 930 - 1385 ===================================================== office addr: Ernest Rutherford Physics Building Physics Department, McGill University 3600 University Street, Room 223 Montreal, PQ, Canada, H3A 2T8 phone: 514 - 398 - 5938 fax: 514 - 398 - 7022 =====================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fmlazar@fc.copytoneonline.com (Frank Lazar) Subject: Black HW monitor bugs Organization: Copytone Visual Communications Message-ID: <fmlazar-2412971510360001@165.254.229.6> Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 20:10:36 GMT I have a Turbo slab with the 17' Trinitron black monitor which is showing some bowing. Are there controls hidden somewhere that adjust centering and shape like most monitors have? The only ones I've found are the ones in the front.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: video conferencing? Date: 24 Dec 1997 15:17:24 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <67s564$ej8@slip.net> References: <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net> <67omqq$u8@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> > >I haven't tried this, but I was wondering if it would be possible to hook >a video camera to a NeXTdimension board, and NXHost the output to another >Cube and vice versa to do video conferencing. Anyone have any ideas? Yes it is possible. Two ND owners can video conference vi NXHost *but* without some new software there would be no real time sound, video only. Emmett
From: billc@warped.com (William Coldwell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: 22 Dec 1997 08:18:38 GMT Message-ID: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> Since 4.2 appears to be the end of life for the Nextstep/Openstep software, that leaves our wonderful black hardware high and dry. I've got enough people together who are interested in working on the port (but more are always welcome!) to make it happen. But, you gotta do something. Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! More specifically, I'm looking for: * - Physical address and register mappings for: Minimum to get it booted: o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) (to netboot it) Bonus points for: To make it usable: o - Framebuffers (mono and color) o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) o - Floppy controller If this information appears magically in my emailbox, we'd be very grateful. More information on The NetBSD Project can be found at www.netbsd.org. -- -- William J. Coldwell r Warped Communications, Inc. email: billc@warped.com a a p e ? 1601 Civic Center Drive #200 http://www.warped.com I m W e ! r y u Santa Clara, California 95050 direct: 408.346.0105 d A o 408.248.WARP FAX:408.GET.WARP
From: cdvorak@pepvax.pepperdine.edu (Charles Dvorak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ram drive as swapdisk Date: 22 Dec 1997 08:26:26 GMT Organization: Pepperdine University Distribution: world Message-ID: <67l87i$203@moon.pepperdine.edu> I recently acquired two 40Mb ATTO Silicon Disks. These are solid state hard drives with no moving parts, i.e. Ramdisks. I would like to install each of them as swapdisks on my 2 ND systems. The problem is they default to Macintosh format. Experimenting with jumpers turned up no clues. Likewise ATTO's current tech support had no info on these drives. They initalize flawlessly as Next drives in WorkSpace Manager. Because they are Ramdisks, they lose all data on power down. Therefore I need to initialize them as Next filesystems, write a label 'swapdisk', and mount them during each boot time. I'm thinking this should occur in the rc file directly before the lines # Check for and mount swapdisks. sh /etc/rc.swap $1 The result might be sh /etc/disk -l swapdisk -i /dev/rsd2a sh /etc/rc.swap $1 Is there a sysadmin out there who might provide me a clue on this process? I'm currently running NS3.2 on one 25mHz ND two headed standalone system and OS4.0 on the other similar 25mHz ND two headed standalone system. Eventually I would like to network these systems. TIA Charlie Dvorak cdvorak@pepperdine.edu
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From: ahoesch@on-luebeck.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Notebook for OpenStep Date: 20 Dec 1997 13:16:01 GMT Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V. Message-ID: <67ggeh$5j8@merkur.on.on-luebeck.de> Hello, I'm going to purchase a notebook for use with OpenStep 4.2. Can anyone give me a recommendation? Must it be possible to run the floppy and the CD-ROM simultaneously to install OpenStep? Thanks in advance! Andreas Hoeschler
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From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing OS on black HW Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 11:05:30 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A31EFA.DC899B44@bah.com> References: <jak-2312972032060001@ss10-08.inre.asu.edu> <34A085D5.DB0F77C9@bah.com> <67q4vj$e6s@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > > > >My only problem, if u can help John is I'm wondering if I'm fully utilitzing > >my 2063MB IBM Ultrastar ES (DORS 32160)... because when I do df, I got the > >followings: > > > >Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity mounted on > >/dev/sd0a 1021301 465689 453481 51% / > >/private/vm/swapfile 1021301 465689 453481 51% /private/vm/swapfile.front > > > > If you put an entry into your /etc/fstab file like this : > > /dev/sd0b /u0 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 > > and reboot the rest of the space on your drive will be > available in a directory named "u0". > u're right Emmett! by entering that I get back the rest of the space... what I did was to move all my /Users dir (instead of /u0) to the sd0b. Now, my question is what's the diff between /dev/sd0b /u0 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 and /dev/sd0b /u0 4.3 rw,noquota 0 1 ? > I'm not certain it's true with OS 4.2 but it is with NS 3.3 ; > NextStep 3.3 can not handle partitions larger than 2 Gigs. It > partitions the disk into chunks of equal size such that > each partition is less than 2 Gigs. So what you currently > see is half of the space available on the drive. > > Emmett FYI: I got that 2 partitions via this way: plug my 2G (2063M) IBM Ultrastar ES into my Turbo slab, and also a Apple CD600e externally, boot via NS3.3 Boot Floppy and OS4.2 Mach CD (Prelude to Rhapsody Dev CD). Left Alt + Command + ~ Type "bfd" at the NeXT> The floppy boots, next is the loading from CD process, and the rest is like installing Prelude to Rhapsody on Intel. TC
From: dlr@davids.org (David Richardson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apahe Date: 26 Dec 1997 06:23:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <34a3b058.69294730@news.primenet.com> I have compiled Apache (1.2.4) on my NeXT machine. When I start the httpd daemon I get a unable to determain the server name. I have added the ServerName directive to my httpd.conf file. Then when I start the server I get a unable to get address for server name. I have checked the the netinfo tables and my server name is there. Do I need to run a named daemon, or some other bind process. Thanks dave
From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:16:18 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-2612971316190001@frazer.com> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <34A3CDE8.5CF0F31@hps.com> In article <34A3CDE8.5CF0F31@hps.com>, Terry Gliedt <tpg@hps.com> wrote: > William Coldwell wrote: > > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! > > I've been asked to make readers of this news group aware of a similiar > effort on black hardware by a Linux group. They too are struggling with > the lack of documentation etc. This seems like an obvious time for > some collaboration by the two groups. I suspect the most you can hope for is what you might find in the NS2.X header files. These seem to be more extensive than the 3.X files. I salvaged a set from a Webster server, but I haven't run any comparisons. If there are some VERY specific queries ...
From: "Chad K Johnson" <bubbaj@visi.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware newbie Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 16:16:18 -0500 Organization: VisiNet InterNetNews site Message-ID: <683r6a$ddm$1@madrid.visi.net> Hi, I have experience with the NeXTSTEP development system and have been running 3.1 for Intel for a while now. This system has finally cratered on me and I'm having trouble replacing it. I noticed some good deals on black hardware from www.orb.com or something like that. Has anyone bought hardware from these people? I am looking for a complete system that I can run out of the box that includes all manuals and disks. I'm also a little unsure of the differences between the systems and the hardware configurations available. The last time I used original NeXT hardware was on an original cube. Is there a place to get some information on this (original NeXT advertizing would be fine). Perhaps a FAQ? Any help in this matter would be appreciated as I am looking to purchase very soon. If anyone is using a NeXT computer in the Hampton Roads area and would not mind showing it to me, I would appreciate an email reply. Thank you, C K Johnson bubbaj@visi.net
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 00:05:48 -0500 From: fmlazar@interactive.net (Frank Lazar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory on a Colo NeXT Station Message-ID: <fmlazar-2712970005480001@host035.jerseycity.interactive.net> References: <3425FE80.4EE3@macconnect.com> Organization: AMUSE-New York Amiga Users In article <3425FE80.4EE3@macconnect.com>, rgravitt@macconnect.com wrote: >What are the possible confgs on a Color 040 NeXT Station? Depends on the model. On a Turbo Slab with 4 RAM slots, that makes 2 banks of 2 simms each. You can this install 2 simms of equal size at a time. On a turbo slab, you can have simms of 4-32 megs in size, From what I gather, the range is from 8-128 megabytes. (16 is the minimum for usability.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ | | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | | \\__// \\ | | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | | \\ | | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: NeXT Color monitor sync question --- anyone done this? Message-ID: <cdoutyELv5z6.E52@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom References: <xn3bty6v7ob.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 19:54:41 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom9.netcom.com In article <xn3bty6v7ob.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca>, Mr. B. N. Bondoc <nick@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> wrote: >do NeXT color monitors use sync-on-green >or composite sync (just like SUN monitors)? The color monitors use sync-on-green. They may have other modes, but NeXTs produce a sync-on-green signal. > >I have checked the FAQ for the scan rates, and resolutions >the sync information is not available Oh well, maybe it will be updated. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon rbo Slab with 4 RAM slots, that makes 2 > banks of 2 simms each. You can this install 2 simms of equal size at a > time. On a turbo slab, you can have simms of 4-32 megs in size, From > what I gather, the range is from 8-128 megabytes. (16 is the minimum for > usability.) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > | _ | > | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | > | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | > | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | > | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | > | \\__// \\ | > | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | > | \\ | > | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | > -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HD partition issue Date: 24 Dec 1997 15:42:10 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <67ragi$flk$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> References: <34A0525B.A395248E@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> wrote: > I have just noticed something strange in my HD... although the system > detected it's a 2060MB HD, df command shows the folllowing on my 64/2G > NSTC: > > Filesystem kbytes used > avail capacity mounted on > /dev/sd0a 1021301 465689 453481 > 51% / > /private/vm/swapfile 1021301 465689 453481 51% > /private/vm/swapfile.front > > is the system seeing the thing as 1G or 2G drive, or 2 x 1G partition? > How do I check? Any command to check it out? I really dun wanna waste > space if I dun have to...btw, she's running OS4.2 user/dev. You have 2 partitions : the first one is the root file system (1GB), and the second one is a swap partition (1GB). So you can run very big programs ;-) Normally when installing the system, the swap is put on a file in the root file system, so I suppose you ask for a swap partition instead. For example, I have the following on my 4 GB drive (3 NeXTSTEP patitions). The "scratch" is a DOS hard disk (1GB). # df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 1983055 870626 914123 49% / /dev/sd0b 1706703 1139362 516139 69% /users /dev/sd0c 674479 14 654230 0% /tmp2 /dev/rsd1h 1060128 414144 645984 39% /scratch My swap is not used (swapfile.front has a 0 length) because I just start the machine and because I have 64 MB of RAM : # ls -l /private/vm total 16394 drwxr-xr-x 2 root 1024 Nov 16 21:40 . drwxr-xr-x 12 root 1024 Oct 29 02:36 .. -rw------t 1 root 16777216 Dec 24 16:19 swapfile -rwsr-sr-t 1 root 0 Nov 16 21:40 swapfile.front I think it is possible to change your swap partition to a swap file. It must be written in the doc. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: 28 Dec 1997 02:28:55 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <684dh7$214$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <67mqpr$819$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> I thought AT&T's Plan9 was ported to black and the documentation was pretty extensive... maybe you can use it as the starting point??? Godwin Chuck Swiger (cswiger@blacksmith.com) wrote: : billc@warped.com (William Coldwell) wrote: : > More specifically, I'm looking for: : > : > * - Physical address and register mappings for: : > Minimum to get it booted: : > o - 8530 SCC (for serial console) : > o - 5390 SCSI controller (obvious reasons) : > o - the ethernet controller (what is it? I couldn't identify it) : > (to netboot it) : Try /usr/include/architecture/zs85C30.h : Also, everything in /usr/include/bsd/dev/m68k, which includes framebuffer : definitions, DMA, low level parts of the EVS driver; also : /usr/include/architecture/m68k has some more stuff, including the interrupt : definitions... : > Bonus points for: : > To make it usable: : > o - Framebuffers (mono and color) : > o - Keyboard/Mouse controller (this is probably really ugly) : > o - Floppy controller : /usr/include/architecture/{adb_bus.h,adb_kb_codes.h,adb_kb_map.h} : You might find the user-mode side of the EVS driver interesting, at : /usr/include/drivers/event_status_driver.h. : All of these references are for OPENSTEP 4.2. : -Chuck : Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer : ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- : I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac IP printing to a NeXTprinter? Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:33:00 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just wondering if I can do LPR printing to my NeXTprinter via LaserWriter 8.5.1 driver on my Mac? Currently, I'm already doing LPR printing to LaserWriter 16/600 PS and HP 5simx & HP HP4simx. If yes, what's the procedure? What will be the IP address of the NeXTprinter, queue name? TIA, TC
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <4893882680420@digifix.com> Date: 28 Dec 1997 04:59:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <343883285229@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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From: "JWL" <echo + 4@mail.idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell's 440LX built-in-sound Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 02:08:49 -0500 Organization: IDT Message-ID: <684u28$7no@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> Anybody out there knew if the Yamaha chip (SB Compat.) built-in on Dell's Dimension 440LX works under OS4.2 using SB drivers? I wasn't successful, but if somebody knows of a solution, please let me know. Thanks in advice. NeXTMail OK echo4@idt.net
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 13:46:47 -0500 From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac IP printing to a NeXTprinter? Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2812971346470001@slip129-37-214-74.oh.us.ibm.net> References: <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com> Organization: IBM.NET In article <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com>, chongt@bah.com wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wondering if I can do LPR printing to my NeXTprinter via > LaserWriter 8.5.1 driver on my Mac? Currently, I'm already doing LPR > printing to LaserWriter 16/600 PS and HP 5simx & HP HP4simx. > > If yes, what's the procedure? What will be the IP address of the > NeXTprinter, queue name? > Well, you certainly can if you are running CAPer.app on your NeXT and serving up the printer as a laserwriter for the Macs. You can't use true type fonts though. Only postscript or true types that have a postscript equivalent. Mitch
From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Chris Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware newbie Date: 28 Dec 1997 21:11:58 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Message-ID: <686fau$icd$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <683r6a$ddm$1@madrid.visi.net> "Chad K Johnson" <bubbaj@visi.net> wrote: >I noticed some good deals on black hardware >from www.orb.com or something like that. Has anyone bought hardware from >these people? Yes. I (and others here in c.s.n.*) recommend Spherical Solutions warmly. >I am looking for a complete system that I can run out of the >box that includes all manuals and disks. Used systems from any reseller these days usually arrive with no media, and no manuals. These have their own intrinsic value, and now the best place to come by them is in c.s.n.marketplace. >I'm also a little unsure of the differences between the systems and the >hardware configurations available. The last time I used original NeXT >hardware was on an original cube. Is there a place to get some information >on this (original NeXT advertizing would be fine). Perhaps a FAQ? Try http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next. Many great FAQs and resources will be found therein. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred Cows make the best hamburger" -- Mark Twain
From: Chong Tim <chong_tim@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac IP printing to a NeXTprinter? Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 23:49:43 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <34A7C695.5B8B1DC4@bah.com> References: <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com> <mitchell.allen-2812971347130001@slip129-37-214-74.oh.us.ibm.net> <6889g0$9j1@postman.fanniemae.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, I found out a few tings for the part few days... I can print to my NeXTprinter via LW8.5.1 after all, the IP address is the same as the NeXT, the queue name is the printer name as in NeXT. Note, Apple LaserWriter 8.5.1 will support LPR printing if your OS is <7.5.5 && <> 8.0 && 8.1<. TC
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: 29 Dec 1997 20:15:04 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <6890c8$pr$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> <67mqpr$819$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <aFukUclVyAvH@cc.usu.edu> root@127.0.0.1 wrote: [ ... ] > I don't think any of these files contain what Mr. Coldwell is looking > for. The zs85C30.h file does contain bit definitions for each register > but there are no physical I/O address mappings. That's what he needs. The relative addresses of the registers are available, though, which is useful. Then he can look at the early stages of the boot sequence, and see where various devices are located in physical memory space, no? > The dma.h file is completely useless. It simply contains some convenient > defines to align your data on the proper boundary. Again, no physical > mappings for the dma registers. Oh, well. At least the suggestions I'd made were worth what you paid for them. :-) > The evio.h and evsio.h would be useful for programming, once he knew > what addresses to actually read/write the mouse and video data at. > > In short, these headers are nice to have if the low-level drivers > are already in place, but they are only minimally useful if you > are the one who is writing the low-level drivers themselves. > > Hardware data!! We need down-to-the-iron hardware data!! Yes, but you're probably going to have to make do with what you can get. Taking a look at the user-mode API offerings isn't complete useless, either, since they at least give some idea of what functionality your low-level drivers might want to offer. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recycle Parts into Macs Date: 29 Dec 1997 20:58:47 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Distribution: world Message-ID: <6892u7$5bg$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <688q56$856$1@cyberusa.com> Rich Bright (zas003@mail.connect.more.net) wrote: >1. The NeXT computers use standard 50 pin SCSI >hard drives which could be recycled into a Mac if >repartioned, formatted etc. Typically these drives >are 330 or 660 Mb. Correct. >2. They typically use RAM which might work in >some Macs or PCs Depending on the model, they often use RAM which is used in older Quadras and Centrises. >3. Somebody sells a cable which will allow the 17 >monitor to connect to a Mac. See http://www.deepspacetech.com >4. Black hardware typically has little value. Actually, black hardware is worth considerably more than you might guess. Especially Color and Color Turbo stations. You can probably sell the remaining depopulated boards to DeepSpaceTech as well. Lastly, there are *some* (just a few) NeXTstations which use Mac-standard ADB ports for their keyboards and mice. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: yves (Yves_AKAKPO) Subject: External disc partition, Swapdisc Message-ID: <ELtLu6.2C8@yves.fdn.fr> Keywords: swapdisc Sender: yves@yves.fdn.fr (Yves AKAKPO) Organization: Individual Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 23:42:06 GMT Hi all NS 3.3 and Black slab I ve partitioned my EXTERNAL DISC. I ve mount in file /etc/fstab in directory /User one partition as line /dev/sd1a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2. How can I do to use second partition as swap disk? Thanks in advance for any help Yves
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Recycle Parts into Macs Date: 30 Dec 1997 04:05:52 GMT Message-ID: <19971230040500.XAA24649@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <688q56$856$1@cyberusa.com> your exactly right black hardware has little value...so I will be glad to take them off your hands at.......50.00 a pair w the hard drives and RAM. Suffering from a total lack of ethics at the moment Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Some interesting articles (from 1990) on ND... Message-ID: <ELzKvv.C48@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:07:07 GMT Hi, I just found some really old articles on NeXT Dimension stuff. I hope you can have some fun reading it ;-) --------------------------------- NeXT ND ------------------------- NeXTdimension NeXTdimension Board Intel i860 33 MHz RISC processor - 30,000 polygon/sec (Gouraud shaded, triangular, meshed) - 30 ms full-screen clear 130 MB/sec blit rate (peak) Image Compression/Decompression - Dedicated JPEG Image Compression Processor - Real-time compression and decompression to hard disk - User-selectable compression rate Memory - Main Memory - 8 MB to 32 MB of main memory - Expandable using 72-pin DRAM SIMM modules - Display Memory - 4 MB VRAM - 32 bits/pixel color, including 8 bits/pixel alpha channel - Supports double-buffered 16/bits pixel windows Display Resolution - 1120 x 832 pixels Display Output - 13W3 triple-coxial Video Video Compatibility - NTSC video input and output channels (PAL option) - Video output genlocked to input video source - Closed-caption, TeleText, and VITC support Video Inputs - One S-Video using standard DIN-style 4-pin jack - Two composite video using RCA-style jack - Software-selectable Video Outputs - One S-Video using standard DIN-style 4-pin jack - One composite video using RCA-style jack - One RGB video using 9-pin D-shell with EGA pinout Date: Thu, 7 Feb 91 10:19:29 EST From: Felipe_Fuster@NeXT.COM - The C-Cube chip will no longer be a feature on the initial ND product, so there will be no real-time compression and de-compression of video. You will still have the compression available but not in real-time, this will be accomplished through software. The reason for this is the C-Cube technology is still not quite there and we don't want to ship a product which is not perfected, ie. video images currently compressed would get distorted. ============================================================ ============================================================ Sep 24 18:22:05 1990 From: clp@wjh12.harvard.edu (Charles L. Perkins) - NeXTdimension has 32 bits, with 8 bits of alpha, allowing all sorts of magic special effects in draw and layout programs (like air-brushing in a pattern behind a car and seeing THROUGH the car windows the pattern behind the car but modified suitably by the color of the glass!). These are true 32 bits, no color tables. It has an Intel i860 built-in that does a minimum of 30,000 Gourand-shaded polygon fills per second, and that allows the standard NeXT U.I. to run as fast (and faster!) that the B&W U I. even though it's pushing arount 8 times more data for every window! Full 32-bit color windows can be dragged around in real-time just like the B&W windows can. Steve showed all sorts of really striking color images, and when you look up close, it is truly photo- realistic color like one of the best of the monitors at SigGraph. - Then came the section that brought the house down...Steve was looking at a door in B&W in the bitmap editor, and he pressed what looked like a large CD play button...the door was a frame from the Wizard of Oz just as Dorothy is about to enter Oz, and as we watched, it came to life and played full-motion color video in full-CD sound in real-time in the window. The Wizard of Oz ran and ran as people clapped and clapped. The damn NeXTdimension has real-time display of video on the screen, built-in JPE G compression in a VLSI chip that performs up to 100-to-1 reduction on the fly for I and O, it has two RCA video inputs (with an S-video slaved to one of them), and an RCA video output with S-video as well. Also RGB output. Also any color monitor can be used for output. Also, here's the price: ===> $ 3995 <=== - When Steve announced that and then took a live video feed of himself, showed us it updating in real-time, captured a frame into the editor, and then composited in Donald Duck sitting on his hand, all in a few seconds, the crowd went wild. This was a moment of Myth. All of the hardware and software ideas of that momentous 1968 demo by Doug Engelbart were finally becoming available on an afforable platform, and we could feel the world changing around us. It was a feeling I won't soon forget. - The NeXTdimension color card has 8 SIMM slots that can accommodate up to 32MB (Megabytes) of memory using eight 1Mx36 SIMMs. The minimum configuration is 8MB using eight 256Kx32 SIMMs. You can add parity memory to the NeXTdimension color in groups of 2 SIMMs of the same style. Please see chart #4 for possible configurations. Note: The NeXTdimension color card can use parity style SIMMs, however at this time it does not actually implement parity checking. ============================================================ Date: Wed, 6 Feb 91 11:53:07 PST - The really exciting news, however, is the top-of-the-line, 32-bit-color NeXTdimension ($14,115 to $17,615). This box will knock your socks off. It's actually a NeXTcube with an additional NeXTdimension graphics board and a 16-inch Sony Trinitron color monitor (1,120 x 832 pixels, 32 bits per pixel) in place of the gray-scale monitor. - The specs of the NeXTdimension board are just short of incredible: An Intel i860 33- megahertz RISC-based graphics coprocessor. Eight megabytes of RAM (expandable to 32 megabytes) dedicated to the i860, plus another 4 megabytes of VRAM for the display. A J PEG coprocessor for real-time image compression and decompression. And NTSC video input and output, with genlock. You can get a NeXTdimension graphics board for a NeXTcube (or for an original 68030 NeXT) for $7,115. - The NeXTdimension is fast. How fast? Try this on a Mac Ilfx: Open two 24-bit-color images in an image-retouching program. Arrange the windows so they're overlapping. Move the top window. Watch the bottom one redraw. Now try it on a NeXTdimension. No visible redraw. The underlying picture's just there. - The Colors Panel. I made a passing reference to 32-bit color on the NeXTdimension. What I didn't tell you is that this is true 32-bit - not 24-bit - color. NeXT doesn't let those other 8 bits lie around with nothing to do. It uses them as an alpha channel. which lets you assign transparency values as well as color values to images. This is, in effect, an extension of Display PostScript; one of the PostScript model's greatest shortcomings is its inability to handle transparent images. NeXTstep's Color s panel - similar to the Mac's Color Picker but more advanced - is where color and transparency values are assigned. - Support for creating composite images is also built in to the system (see Figure 4). You can overlay multiple images to create a single composite image, but each component image remains a separate, floating object that can be moved ad infinitum without permanently changing the final image. Transparency lets you see through one image - a window in a car, for example - to another image - such as a tree by the side of the road - behind it. Macs can't do this - at least not without a bunch of extra fancy programming. ============================================================ NeXT News--February 1991 - Color Monitor Update NeXT is now offering two color monitor options for NeXTstation Color and NeXTdimension systems. Customers now have a choice between a Philips 17-inch monitor (which retails for $2995) or a Hitachi 21-inch monitor (which retails for $3995). Orders placed for the previously offered Sony monitor will automatically convert to the Philips monitor. If customers want to purchase the larger monitor, please place a change-order as soon as possible. Contact your local NeXT representative if you have any questions. ============================================================ NeXTdimension Product Alert - There is one specification change. NeXT has eliminated the C-Cube Microsystems CL-550 JPEG chip from NeXTdimension. This is because our supplier, C-Cube Microsystems, has failed to deliver chips that meet their specifications. - The elimination of this part will only change two features of NeXTdimension: 1. Users will not be able to store and play-back video from their winchester disks. 2. Users will get software-based JPEG compression and de-compression (built into Release 2.0, and available on all NeXT platforms), rather than hardware-based JPEG compression and de-compression. This will result in typical images taking 3-10 seconds to compress or decompress, rather than having these functions happen instantly. - The price for NeXTdimension will remain $3995. ============================================================ How many colors can NeXT machines display? - The monochrome machines can display 4 gray levels. You can use color apps on a monochrome machine, they will converted into monochrome images and dithered accordingly. - Color NeXTstations can combine 4 bits of red, green and blue primaries for a total of 4096 "pure" colors. The imaging functions dither the image to produce intermediate colors. - NeXTdimension can combine 8 bits of red, green and blue for 16,777,216. There are not 16 million points on the display so all can not be displayed at once. Further display technology limits the usable color space. - None of the NeXT products support color look up tables where the user can define their own color palette on a per window basis. This feature is useful for displaying images which have adaptive lookup tables, and display pure grayscale images on the color NeXTstation. On the NeXTdimension images can be converted to full 24 bit representation. ============================================================ Why is my machine so slow when I run the monochrome and NeXTdimension displays? - [New entry July 31 1991] There is a bug with the window system in which if you select the monochrome display as your primary display the server will be much much slower. The solution for those wishing to use both displays is to select the color (NeXTdimension) display as the primary display. The most optimal configuration at present with the NeXTdimension is to run only the color display. ============================================================ Thursday, May 30, 1991 - About the best reason for buying a cube instead of a pizza box is the supposedly-shipping-any-day-now NeXTdimension board. This is a 32-bit accelerated graphics and video board which pretty well defines state-of-the-art. (Actually, it only uses 24 bits for color, producing the usual 16.7 million shades. The additional 8 bits are used for things like image transparency and other cool effects.) - The NeXTdimension board uses an Intel i860 to juice up its graphics speed and will have the capacity to do real-time, full-screen video compression and decompression probably using the C3 JPEG chip. (I say "probably" not because I'm privy to any inside dope, but it appears the reason the board has been delayed has to do with compression chip troubles.) - I haven't seen the compression chip working, but I have watched a NeXTdimension board do both color graphics and uncompressed video and it is astonishing on both counts. Despite the color density, screen changes and refreshes occur even faster than they do on a standard gray-scale system. Video images can come from a combination of sources including VCR's, laserdisks, and camcorders in either PAL or NTSC formats. ============================================================ From: crum@alicudi.usc.edu (Gary L. Crum) Date: 28 May 91 20:58:20 GMT Distribution: comp - According to NeXT representatives at (800)848-6398, the NeXTdimension board is shipping. New (not already outstanding) orders for NeXTdimension boards are expected to be filled in four weeks. That, along with the first-come- first-serve policy, implies that outstanding orders will also be filled in four weeks. The status is the same for N7014-08 and N7014-16. - Also of note is that the NeXTdimension board is shipping without JPEG compression hardware, but that the price of the NeXTdimension board includes (officially) JPEG hardware to be shipped in the future when it is ready. - The cable for connecting a NeXTdimension board to a NeXT Color MegaPixel Display (either the N4001 17" or the N4005 21") is included with the NeXTdimension Starting Point Kit (N8527). But, a person at 800-848-6398 told me that NeXT might include the cable alone (at no charge?) with orders not including the NeXTdimension Starting Point Kit. I already bought one extra starting point kit -- I wonder if I should get another one, just for fun because they're priced so reasonably :-) Gary ============================================================ From: lee@pipe.cs.wisc.edu (Soo Lee) Date: 30 May 91 23:30:44 - I am afraid that C-CUBE is changing their mind on JPEG chip. As I learned that DTC(Discrete Cosine Transformation) is implemented on JPEG chip, I am puzzled why they didn't switch to WAVELET algorithm which appears better, cheaper and faster than DTC algorithm. I agree that WAVELET comes later that DTC as JPEG emerges its standard but they could switch its standard in the infancy of WAVELET. Since Postscript II has internal DTC filter, it is not highly likely for NeXT to change daughterboard with WAV ELET soon. However, performancewise, NeXT would rather change its compression support in the favor of WAVELET algorithm if daughterboard design won't cost much. Is there anyone who can tell me what is the future of "daughter board" of NeXTDimension could be? Soo lee@cs.wisc.edu ============================================================ June NeXTNews: - The following is the content of the June NeXTnews. It was mailed to NeXTdimension Configuration Alert: - This is to alert you to a problem NeXT customers may run into with NeXTdimension, and the (happily simple) way they can avoid it. This message went to all Systems Engineers on June 18th. Please contact your NeXT SE if you have any questions. - The Bad Configuration A couple of customers have had extremely bad initial impressions of NeXTdimensions, whereas other customers and internal users were very happy. We ran down a major source of the difference: there is one configuration of NeXTdimension which is dramatically slower at most color tasks than all others. The "bad" configuration is a two-headed NeXTdimension system (i.e., one configured with both a MegaPixel monochrome monitor and the NeXTdimension color monitor) with the monoc hrome screen set as the zero, or default, screen. Any other configuration is much preferable. The bottom line is that we do not recommend any customer use the above configuration; it works, but it can be amazingly slow. - For instance, zooming to 200% in Scene while looking at a 1.66MB tiff file takes 130 sec. on the bad configuration; on other NeXTdimension configurations, it takes only about 20 seconds. Billiards is around a factor of 10 slower on the bad configuration. - How to get Into or Out of the Bad Configuration If your customer orders a fresh system, or adds a NeXTdimension upgrade to an existing cube, the system will power up and, by default, only use the color NeXTdimension screen. To configure a system double-headed at all, the user must run the Preferences app and use the new multiple screens preference item to enable the monochrome screen. - The only way to get into the bad configuration is to then drag the login window icon over to the monochrome screen to set it as the zero screen. For your new NeXTdimension customers, make surethey don't do that. - For existing customers who may have done that already, they can set the zero screen back to the color screen by dragging the login window icon back to the color screen. - There is no likely fix for the slow configuration -- the solution is to avoid it. - We are considering how we can help customers avoid this situation (e.g., whether we can revise the Release Notes or ND doc), but nothing can happen for awhile (so we're telling you right away!). ============================================================ This update went to all NeXT field sales on June 18th. 7 NeXTdimension computers are designed to work with both a monochrome MegaPixel Display and a MegaPixel Color Display at the same time. This allows the user to drag windows across both displays as well as use both monochrome and color displays simultaneously. If your customer has a NeXTcube with a serial number lower than AAK0016370, the system will only run with both monochrome display and a color display connected. Should a customer want to stop using the MegaPixel monochrome display and replace it with a NeXT Sound Box to use only a color display, the customer must replace the power supply in the NeXTcube by purchasing the Power Supply Upgrade Kit. From: thomsen@spf.trw.com (Mark R. Thomsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Digital World - Color Date: 7 Jun 91 01:14:14 GMT Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA A clue on NeXTdimension performance - beef up the CPU memory as far as your checkbook allows if you are doing image processing. We found this out using prototypes and the guys at DW repeated this. If you are going for video animation then the ND memory needs beefing up. The exact quantity needs to be figured emperically. We are putting 64MB into our ND cubes. ============================================================ To: Friends of NeXT (recipients of "News from NeXT") From: Ron Weissman Date: June 28, 1991 - NeXT Dimension Update NeXT began volume shipments of the NeXTdimension color graphics board for the NeXTcube in late May. The NeXTdimension provides NeXTcube owners with accelerated 32bit true-color, real-time video capture and display, and an dedicated Intel i860 RISC-based graphics processor. The NeXTdimension board requires NeXT System Release 2.1 and the NeXT Bus Interface Chip (NBIC). The NeXTdimension board is available in both NTSC and PAL versions and retails for $3,995. NeXT offers 17" and 21" Color MegaPixel displays for NeXTdimension purchasers. The 17" display retails for $1,995. The 21" display retails for $3,495. Higher education discounts apply to all the products mentioned above. ------------------------- end of NeXT ND --------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nenad Andjelic <andjelic@nebo.infinity.com.eg> Subject: Re: Tips on mainboard/processor for NS 3.3? Message-ID: <34A961A9.39F0B902@nebo.infinity.com.eg> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:03:37 -0200 References: <01bd0a38$b81d0d80$980accc3@wingate.robin.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: edmtl@edb.uib.no Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tysvćr pedsenter wrote: > > Looking to upgrade my system. > > Currently an overclocked 90MHz pentium running at 100MHz, 64MB RAM, 256L2 > cache on an INtel Endeavor Advanced/EV (Triton chipset) board. > > Have been wondering about a MMX pentium vs. PentiumPro vs. AMD K6. Dont > have the cash (or need) for the Pentium II. Any advice as to what > mainboards work (or esp. don't work), if higher bus speeds are o.k. > (thinking of 75-83MHz instead of 66) and stability issues appreciated. > > Been to Toms Hardware guide, but need NeXTStep specific info, I know Linux > and Win95/NT will go fine, but I'm not ready to give up NEXTStep. > > Please cc: followups to my email, thanks in advance. > > Regards, > Thor > -- > NeXTStep, Linux, Wi... I run AMD K6 233Mhz MMX, on an Intel 430TX chipset motherboard, 48 megs RAM, ESS1868 Sound Card, Matrox Mystique 220 w/ 4 megs, and a 17" MicroVision monitor; all these are properly configured, sound is working, my maximum resolution is 1600x1200 and things are great. The computer doesn't crash, it runs smoothly and seems rock stable. So, this is my configuration for your upgrade. Cheers, Ned
From: Paul Pederson <Pederson@mail.dec.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Box for Sale Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 13:29:17 -0500 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Message-ID: <34A93D7C.73A6AA89@mail.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Black box with 16meg and 1 gig disk for sale. It has the 3.2 developer software loaded. Any reasonable offer accepted. Paul 508-841-2824
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