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From: Robert Bauman <rpbaum00@pop.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Monitor On a Sparc 1+ Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:13:13 -0500 Organization: Univ. of Kentucky / Dept. of Physics Message-ID: <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just bought a Sparc 1+ with a cg6 frame buffer. It has an 13w3 connector on it. I also bought a NeXT 21" monitor I was hoping to use with it. It also has a 13w3 connect. Unfortunately, the monitor is not syncing with the frame buffer in any modes (text or X). (NeXT model # n4005a) Someone told me that the problem may be that the Sparc 1+ may be putting out composite sync and the NeXT expects to see seperate sync. I know that the Sparc 1+ works fine on it's originial monitor and I am going to try to test the NeXT on a seperate computer. Anyone out there know what is wrong and what the fix is ?? Any help or advise is welcome and appreciated. Robert Bauman Dept. of Physics and Astronomy University of Kentucky
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate ST34371N 4gb drive Date: 31 Oct 1997 02:10:26 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <63bemi$m1g@fridge.shore.net> References: <3450B5B4.4EB9@pepco.com> In-Reply-To: <3450B5B4.4EB9@pepco.com> Most definitely. We use a ST34371W at one of my clients. There is a 2GB limit per partition so you should partition it into at least 2-3 partitions. Also, check out the public domain "sdformat" utility on ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next Robert On 10/24/97, Thomas Youkel wrote: >I'm trying to format a Seagate 4+gb drive on a turbo cube eith 4.0 user. >When I do a sdform /dev/rsd1a it comes back with > >device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity 40 MBytes > >What am I doing wrong. Will Openstep format a 4+gb drive? > -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is it possible..... Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:14:12 -0700 Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <62p3u6$641@news.microsoft.com> References: <344FA925.42A58F1B@worldnet.att.net> See the "cube accelerations options II" thread I started on 10/12...
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to fix laser printer? Date: 21 Oct 1997 03:39:33 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <62h85l$l7f$1@ralph.vnet.net> Hi All, I have a NeXT 400dpi laser printer in which the final pinch rollers (at the very end of the paper path) have just stopped functioning. Does anybody know how to fix them? Are service manuals for the printers available? Thanks, Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com
From: Robert Bauman <rpbaum00@pop.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor On a Sparc 1+ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:07:31 -0500 Organization: Univ. of Kentucky / Dept. of Physics Message-ID: <3459F433.22FD@pop.uky.edu> References: <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I might also add that I am running RedHat Linux 4.2 .
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drive on Black Hardware??? Date: 31 Oct 1997 16:55:23 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <63d2hr$5mq$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <19971027002801.TAA21784@ladder02.news.aol.com> <638348$c1c$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: > >Howdy, > we just got an external Toshiba TXM5701F1 (internal is TXM5701B if I >remember correctly) and it works fine with black hardware. Also >OmniCD.app can play audio CD's from it. Not sure if I can record the >track to the disk though (not sure how important this is for you). > It is 12X CD ROM. The external was some $150 and the internal is >near $100. Check www.pricewatch.com - I found this drive to be one of >the best deals listed there ... > I just tested that OmniCD.app can record sound files with this driven on black HW. Cheers. Rudy
From: Bald Herreman <bherrema@allserv.rug.ac.be> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what soundcards work on Dell 450 DE? Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 15:47:36 +0100 Organization: University of Ghent, Belgium Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.94.971031154311.19159A-100000@allserv.rug.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I need a soundcard for an dell 450 de that works running openstep 4.0 and dos/windows 3.1, Since this is an eisa computer the configuration utilitie for my soundblaster 16 pnp card do not work, Is there a soundcard onthe market today that works under these circumstances, I wish I still had a pro audio spectrum 16... TIA Bald
From: thakker.bakulesh@mayo.edu (Bakulesh Thakker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AuctionBoard Sucks Date: 31 Oct 1997 17:00:57 GMT Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN / Employee: Taj Technologies MN Message-ID: <63d2s9$sl0$21@tribune.mayo.edu> Hi All, I bought from AuctionBoard web-site ( http://www.auctionboard.com ) a SONY 17 inch monitor (GDM-1602). When finally it arrived they sent me an HP 98785A monitor (with SONY tube). As per the vendor the HP monitor is same as SONY GDM-1602 monitor. I am writing this to warn gullible amongst you to not buy stuff off AuctionBoard. Compared to this my experience on another web-site for auction called ONSALE was much better. Thanks, -Bakulesh Thakker
From: Eric Christy <christy@pa.uky.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor On a Sparc 1+ Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:00:15 -0500 Organization: University of Kentucky Computing Services Message-ID: <345A0E9F.41C6@pa.uky.edu> References: <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> <3459F433.22FD@pop.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Bauman wrote: > > I might also add that I am running RedHat Linux 4.2 . Sounds like a sync problem to me. I believe the old Sun monitors did combined sync but the newer ones do not.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <63d2s9$sl0$21@tribune.mayo.edu> Control: cancel <63d2s9$sl0$21@tribune.mayo.edu> Date: 31 Oct 1997 17:21:58 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.63d2s9$sl0$21@tribune.mayo.edu> Sender: thakker.bakulesh@mayo.edu (Bakulesh Thakker) Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a mac external SCSI drive work on my slab ? Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:25:15 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <63d7qc$ar@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <3458E69B.424F@why.net> In article <3458E69B.424F@why.net>, Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> wrote: > I have the opportunity to pick up one, will it work right off or is some > recabling involved ?? > -- Yes. It will work. Nothing special involved. Mitch
From: Steve Eggers <stevee617@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable for Ext. ZIP Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:22:01 -0500 Organization: AT&T Message-ID: <63e76g$2fk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What kind of cable do I need to get to use my external Zip drive with my color slab? and where do I get one? :-) Thanks Steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <63cs7d$4s38@srv060.ssd.fsi.com> From: root@dev1.ssd.fsi.com Date: 31 Oct 1997 15:07:25 GMT Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.hardware y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.hardware y Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: mouse wiring Date: 1 Nov 1997 06:07:59 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <63egvv$qvs@rumah.pc.my> Hi, Back when my non-ADB Next mouse died, I got one of the adapters and a Logitech MouseMan. Now the Logitech is starting to fail, so I got a basic mouse with PS-2 mouseport connector & serial adapter. But it seems that the connector is not the same as the Logitech. It has a plastic pin in the middle and 6 pins instead of 9 like the Logitech. Could someone advice on the options? 1) Try to find an adapter to connect the PS-2 connecter to the round Next2Logitech adapter 2) Add the serial adapter to the PS-2 connector and find an adapter to connect this adapter to the Next2Logitech adapter 2) Solder the wire from my dead next mouse into the PS-2 mouse (pin diagram needed?) 3) Impossible, give up & mail order a Next mouse (Lowest priority option) 3) other suggestions welcomed... TIA, Mike
From: Louis_Eagle@mendota.com Subject: Openstep 4.2 on Pentium-II ? Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 01:01:33 -0600 Message-ID: <878367228.32554@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Is anyone successfully running 4.2 on a Pentium-II ? How about P-II and the LX chipset? Thanks, Louis -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- Louis R. Eagle Portland, Oregon E-mail: Louis_Eagle@mendota.com (MIME/NextMail/Sun/ascii) -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
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From: Joe McCarthy <mccarthy@si87.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Using NExT monitor on PC? Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:13:55 -0700 Organization: Software Integrators Inc, Message-ID: <3454F603.3B2C@si87.com> References: <630l3q$3o5$1@wolfe.wimsey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Shyan Ku <shyanku@wimsey.com> Shyan Ku wrote: > > Is this possible? I have an opportunity to get one for cheap. > > TIA. > > -Shyan We sell graphics cards which can drive NeXT monitors from a PC. Since the monitor is not a multi sync, you need to buy a special graphics card to drive it. Joe ****************************************************************** * Joe McCarthy | Toll free: 800-547-2349 * * Software Integrators Inc. | Phone: 406-586-4987 * * 104 East Main Street | Fax: 406-586-9145 * * Suite 206 | BBS: 406-586-9610 * * Bozeman, MT 59715 | Email: mccarthy@si87.com * ****************************************************************** * WEB PAGE -> http://www.si87.com * ******************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Can ST52160N do 1024 bytes per sector? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIxEow.2qM@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:17:19 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I'm getting one of these shortly and am wondering whether people have made it do 1024-byte sectors? I suppose I could ask Seagate but the NeXT community is way more friendly. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Non-ADB Mouse symptoms Date: 21 Oct 1997 21:54:38 GMT Message-ID: <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Have a non-ADB Color slab. The mouse seems to be having a problem: the cursor doesn't always move with or even in the same direction as the mouse. Often a downward movement of the mouse results in the cursor actually going up on the screen and then back down. On occasion, it will go clear to the top of the screen and not back down. It has also started to exhibit a "frozen" place in left-right motion where the cursor will start to move and then freeze, as if the mouse ball had stopped rolling, or the pick-ups inside the mouse were sticking. I've cleaned everything and the symptoms persist. My suspicions are contacts in the wiring somewhere between the mouse and the slab, possibly in the wires to the keyboard, or from the keyboard on. I have wiggled them when the mouse is at its worst, and the problem seems to go away, or at least become less noticeable. Any suggestions? Thanks, Bill Lee
From: max@maxgraphic.com (Max Pinton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation & StyleWriter Date: 2 Nov 1997 01:36:56 GMT Organization: Maxgraphic Message-ID: <max-0111971738340001@blv-pm109-ip11.halcyon.com> Anyone know of a way to get a mono NeXTstation (non-turbo) on speaking terms with a StyleWriter II? TIA. Please e-mail too. -- Max Pinton, max@maxgraphic.com Maxgraphic Digital Portfolio, http://www.maxgraphic.com/
From: root@dev1.ssd.fsi.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg newgroup comp.sys.next.hardware y Control: newgroup comp.sys.next.hardware y Date: 31 Oct 1997 15:07:25 GMT Organization: Another Netscape Collabra Server User Message-ID: <63f87r$kkb$74@glitnir.ifi.uio.no> Control message generated by Netscape Collabra Server.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Need summary: booting a cube ND with sound box... Message-ID: <EIz57B.C1y@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 15:47:35 GMT Hi, A couple of weeks ago, there was a thread discussing booting the ND cube with a sound box, not with the mono monitor. Can anyone kindly send me a summary about the discussion? Now I have this problem with an rather old cube. Thanks for any info.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13622877838422@digifix.com> Date: 2 Nov 1997 04:46:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <398878446823@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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From: "Batmon" <myang@sis.pitt.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PLEASE HELP!! errno2 when install OPENSTEP v4.2!! Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:46:23 -0500 Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <636lvv$9vm@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Hi, I tried to install OPENSTEP v4.2 into my Intel machine and it gives me error messages. OPENSTEP did find my EIDE hard drive and EIDE CD-ROM, but shows following messages at end: power management is enable load of /etc/mach_init, errno2, trying /etc/init load of /etc/init failed, errno2 then the system stop working and I have to reset. Here is my hardware configurations: ASUS TX-97X (ATX mother board) Intel P586/200MMX CPU FUJISU EIDE 3.5GB HDD Acer 24X EIDE CD-ROM One 168 pin 10ns 32MB SDRAM Dimend 3D 2000 Video Card w/ 4MB RAM PS/2 Mouse PS/2 keyboard 1.44" FDD External HP 56K VoiceSurf modem SoundBlaster Value 64 Card Please help, thank you. batmon
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From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Setting up a dual-boot WinNT & NeXT Mach machine Date: 1 Nov 1997 14:32:43 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <63feib$oqf$1@ralph.vnet.net> Hi Folks, I am trying to set up a dual-boot NT/Mach machine. The first step is to install NeXT Mach on the second EIDE hard drive of the a machine with the following resources. EIDE Interfaces: Primary Master: Hard Disk with Windows NT 4.0 Primary Slave: Zip drive Secondary Master: Hard Disk (on which to install OPENSTEP/Mach 4.2) Secondary Slave: CD ROM drive SCSI (Adaptec 2940UW): Nothing on it at present (to be used later) Sound and modem cards I received the machine from the manufacturer with NT on both hard disks, and I successfully installed Mach on the secondary master! I used the Adaptec 154x driver for the CD and the Master/Secondary (Dual) EIDE driver for the hard drive, chose "2" for advanced options, and it showed both IDE disks (#1 and #2) and I chose #2. It installed Mach on the disk successfully and rebooted. When it came back up it was not able to mount the root volume. I tried telling it to boot "hd(1,a)mach_kernel rootdev=hd1a)" but it complained saying "No IDE drives detected\nLoading OPENSTEP\nNo IDE drives detected". How can that be? What am I doing wrong? How have other people set up dual-boot NT/Mach machines? Thanks for your time, Roland -- Roland Telfeyan roland@telf.com (MIME, NeXT, Sun)
From: "Gary Lang" <g a r y l a n g @ n e t c o m . c o m> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmers.misc,comp.sys.mac.wantedmisc.forsale.computers.mac,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS: Classic NeXT 68040 & Software Date: 2 Nov 1997 07:05:25 GMT Organization: Bechtel Message-ID: <01bce75c$d1a39f20$30c4abcf@lmlang> See auction at: http://www.cityauction.com/item.asp?ID=101511 Hardware Components •68040 Upgrade Motherboard •24MB RAM 350MB HD •17" Megapixel Display. Still a bright monochrome. •Working Floptical - believe it or not, it still works great! •Floppy drive from DIT •FAX Modem - Abaton Faxmaster, with OCR software •NeXT CD-ROM Drive •Telebit 9600 Baud Modem •NeXT Laser Printer Software Components •NeXT Developer 3.0, CD •FrameMaker 3.0 •WriteNow •Marble Teleconnect •Engage •Squash •OCR Servant •Informix Wingz Spreadsheet •Improv Spreadsheet •TypeView •Microphone •Floppyworks •Adobe DisplayTalk •Lighthouse Concurrence •Adobe Fonts, some new in box. Plus Pack included •Adobe TouchType Have disks for all of these
From: pit *@* iohk.com (taiQ) Organization: Urban Primates Inc. Message-ID: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: VIA chipsets and busmastering MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 1 Nov 97 15:40:42 GMT I'm upgrading to a new motherboard but would like to be ready for Rhapsody... I'm interested in motherboards with the non-(w)intel VIA chipset, like the VPX, VP/2 or the upcoming VP/3. How well are the VIA chipsets supported under NextSTEP (or Rhapsody)? The IDE busmastering can make quite a difference so can VIA-based motherboards be recommended, or does it have to be an intel-based board? Both facts and rumours are welcome. PS. Just noticed there's a new cross-platform game from Polyex coming up - for Mac OS, Rhapsody, BeOS and OS/2... all the great platforms are covered! Nice development... :-) TIA -- taiQ in hkg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Will a mac external SCSI drive work on my slab ? Message-ID: <EIys5J.5xB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3458E69B.424F@why.net> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:05:43 GMT In article <3458E69B.424F@why.net> Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> writes: > I have the opportunity to pick up one, will it work right off or is some > recabling involved ?? > -- You must low level reformat before you can use it. To my knowledge, Apple still formats its drives to 2k sector size. NeXT only supports 1k and 1/2k sectors. The latter one also works on PCs. You can do this trick using 'sdformat', a PD utility program found on all of the known archives. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: reed@im.wustl.edu (Thomas Reed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: modem for NeXT Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:29:58 -0600 Organization: Washington University in St. Louis Message-ID: <reed-0111971529580001@onc-isdn-35.wustl.edu> My mother has a NeXT machine that she wants to get Internet access from. Anybody know where I can get her a good modem for a NeXT through mail-order? Thanks in advance!
From: Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Karsten Heinze) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 on Pentium-II ? Date: 2 Nov 1997 10:14:20 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <63hjps$f3i$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <878367228.32554@dejanews.com> Louis_Eagle@mendota.com wrote: > Is anyone successfully running 4.2 on a Pentium-II ? > > How about P-II and the LX chipset? PII on a Asus P2L97S (LX chipset with onboard Adaptec2940UW) runs fine for me. - Karsten -- Karsten.Heinze@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE Phone / Fax : +86-10-64 94 78 03 *** Powered_By_NeXTSTEP ***
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black hardware compatable mouse Date: 2 Nov 1997 10:47:22 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <63hlnq$l9h$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <345c4d69.0@mournblade.ptw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: michael@localhost.ptw.com In <345c4d69.0@mournblade.ptw.com> Michael wrote: > Sometime in the last couple of weeks somebody posted some information > about companies which made mice (mouses??) which were compabable with > the NeXT black hardware. Could somebydy please repost the information > or e-mail it to me. I had similar problems with long-gone threads etc. BUT:You can always go to http://www.dejanews.com there's basically everything you need... Adios Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Networking NeXT and Mac Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 18:54:05 -0500 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello: I am thinking of moving my NeXTStation Color home where I have a PowerBook 520 with an Ethernet port and a Personal LaserWriter NTX that works on AppleTalk. My question is: Is there a way to newtork the NeXT, the Mac, and the LaserWriter? I'd like to be able to print without the hassle of moving files on floppies etc. Please e-mail me a recipe for this at wj@writeme.com Thank you.
From: michael@localhost.ptw.com (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black hardware compatable mouse Keywords: NeXT mouse Message-ID: <345c4d69.0@mournblade.ptw.com> Date: 2 Nov 97 09:52:41 GMT Organization: Lancaster Internet Services Sometime in the last couple of weeks somebody posted some information about companies which made mice (mouses??) which were compabable with the NeXT black hardware. Could somebydy please repost the information or e-mail it to me. Thanks! Michael Young youngmi@ptw.com
From: Jay <nin@goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Can't Boot ColorStation 25/NS 3.3 Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 16:22:45 -0700 Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am sure there is a quick and easy way to fix this...but I am at a loss. I am using (Black Hardware) a NeXT ColorStation 25 running NeXTStep 3.3. I have my Linux box acting as a NFS server for the NeXT station (both on a local 192.168.x.x network). My problem is that (stupid me :) I decided to do some 'tinkering' with the network settings on the NeXT, and now it will not boot at all. It just hangs at the "Starting YP Services" portion of boot-up. Is there a way to by-pass networking during boot-up so that I can correct the problem? Thanks... ~Jay - J a y J a c o b s o n - ----------------------- - Network Engineer, ISP -- 602.303.9500 -- 888.Good.Net - jay@good.net -- www.goodnet.com/~nin
From: stanj@caffeineSoft.com (Stan Jirman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HP1554A DDS-3 on NeXTSTEP Followup-To: comp.sys.next.software Date: 2 Nov 1997 06:20:16 GMT Organization: Caffeine Software Message-ID: <63h630$5d4$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Hello, I just purchased the HP-1554A DDS-3 DAT drive. It works fine with my Intel 4.2 system, but 3.3 doesn't recognize it. When the system boots (both Cube and Intel), the drive is recognized in the SCSI init sequence, but no /dev/nrst0 device is installed. Hence, apps such as SafetyNet or tar fail to see the drive. On the underside of the drive is a series of dip-switches which should configure it to a variety of Unix systems; since I have a total of 256 possible combinations I thought to ask whether someone had any luck using this device on 3.3. Thanks, all help is appreciated. - Stan --- Stan Jirman Caffeine Software NeXTmail and MIME: stanj@caffeineSoft.com Caffeine Software: http://www.caffeineSoft.com
From: root@dreams.skidmore.edu (Operator) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead NeXT Internal Drive....how can I boot it/replace it? Date: 23 Oct 1997 22:40:16 GMT Organization: Skidmore College Message-ID: <62ojog$s7v$1@calvin.skidmore.edu> Keywords: dead internal drive I arrived at work to find my main machine (NeXT cube 040 running 3.0), DOA (dead), with some kind of "panic window" open...and the drive making a repeated clicking noise. I tried to reboot in the rom monitor...but the drive never came ready.......... Questions: 1) how can I boot from a CD rom I have of 3.0 ? I tried: bcd (boot CD, as a guess) but no go it says there are "no scsi drives" 2) how could I boot from the ethernet? I have another machine down the hall I could configure as a net booter/server, but I managed to mangle its netinfo trying to do just this. Somehow, the instructions I find in the online docs didn't work as advertised (or I just screwed it up, which is quite possible too!). 3) I've got another drive attached which I remember building as a possible "boot" drive, however, when I try to to boot from it, it either can't find it on the SCSI or can't find the boot block. What's the proper command? bsd(2,0.0)sdmachdev2 ?? something like that? 4. I REALLY would like to fix the dead machine and continue to use it (even though I lost all the stuff on the disk probably). What do people suggest I replace the main internal drive with? Is there someting I can buy today that I can stick into the same place inside the cube, or should I just try to run another drive off the SCSI chain? How do I manage to build a bootdisk as an external drive. (did that make any sense?) 5. Lastly, how could I boot from the internal FLOPTICAL ! I have a 2.0 floptical, but the machine didn't seem to want to find it (ugh, huh? or I didn't know how to tell it to do so... bod (was my guess) didn't work ideas are VERY welcome!! please reply: root@dreams.skidmore.edu THANK YOU
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next Memory Date: 29 Oct 1997 16:35:21 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <637ok9$me2$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <34561134.649@mindspring.com> Curtis Crowson <crowsonc@mindspring.com> wrote: > I have recently become the owner of a turbo Next Slab. I would like to > upgrade its memory, but I cannot find 70 ns ram in it. Try <URL=http://www.thechipmerchant.com/Price/complete.htm>.... > I was told by someone very knowledgeable (or I would not have believed it) > that this next thinks 60ns rams are 120 ns rams so they run slower than 70 > NS rams. Is this strange tale true? The NeXT Turbos had different memory access timings available to them depending on the speed of the SIMM's. Some of the older motherboards and/or ROM versions would fail to recognize 60 ns SIMM's and run at the slower, 100 ns timing. (Whether they thought the SIMM's were 100 ns or 120 ns is a different question-- I'd have to dig into the pin signals used, and it's not worth the time to bother.) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
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From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT trintron monitor repair advice Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 15:09:25 +0000 Organization: Stockholm Univerity Distribution: world Message-ID: <345C97A3.8B3285BE@msi.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, one of our Sony Trintron monitors is broken. The picture is quite okay, but after a couple of minutes there are some kind of mini-"flashes" (like electrostatic discharges), the screen goes black for a second or so and then the picture reappears. im am trying to have the monitor fixed locally. I talked to a local TV-dealer and he said he could repair it if he had got circuit diagrams. Does anybody know, if and where the necessary information is available. I would also be grateful for advice on companies in southern Germany that are able to repair old NeXT monitors. Thanks in advance. Harald Ellmann se (pin diagram needed?) 3) Impossible, give up & mail order a Next mouse (Lowest priority option) 3) other suggestions welcomed... TIA, Mike
From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep 4.2 on Pentium-II ? Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 10:45:03 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <878553903.10909.0.nnrp-05.c30b1c08@news.demon.co.uk> References: <878367228.32554@dejanews.com> In article <878367228.32554@dejanews.com> Louis_Eagle@mendota.com writes: > Is anyone successfully running 4.2 on a Pentium-II ? > > How about P-II and the LX chipset? Hi, NEXTSTEP, OpenStep and Rhapsody works well on our PII and PII-LX range of systems. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc | UK phone: 01702 426400 | Vendors of NS/OS 351 London Road | fax: 01702 551515 | MCCAs, Hardware Hadleigh | Int'l prefix: +44 1702 | Apps, Networks Essex | | ISDN, Training SS7 2BT | Email: david@onestep.co.uk | Maintenance England | (NeXTMail/MIME ok) | and Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Info on an unusual sound box... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIKFMz.GDn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:08:59 GMT References: <EIIxtM.Dzv@midway.uchicago.edu> <344fd2b9.190016296@news.digex.net> Organization: University of Waterloo Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware In article <344fd2b9.190016296@news.digex.net>, John Immordino <jimmord@paragon-software.com> wrote: > >Yes, I made the changes and let me tell you, >tilting at windmills was a breeze compared to >selling NeXT hardware. > So, what do they do? :) The changes, I mean, not the windmills. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: vmacswain@upei.ca (Virginia MacSwain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer Repair Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:53:22 UNDEFINED Organization: Psychology Department, University of PEI Message-ID: <vmacswain.4.007155FB@upei.ca> Keywords: Printer, repair, color monitor I am looking for a company that repairs Next printers and color monitors. Does anyone know of such a place. If so, please e-mail me at vmacswain@upei.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.software,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Followup-To: References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy> From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert) Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland Subject: Re: Can't Boot ColorStation 25/NS 3.3 Summary: Message-ID: <345df7b8.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 3 Nov 97 16:11:36 GMT In article <Pine.GSO.3.95.971101161706.24443B-100000@goodguy>, Jay <nin@goodnet.com> writes: > > I am sure there is a quick and easy way to fix this...but I am at a loss. > I am using (Black Hardware) a NeXT ColorStation 25 running NeXTStep 3.3. > I have my Linux box acting as a NFS server for the NeXT station (both on a > local 192.168.x.x network). My problem is that (stupid me :) I decided to > do some 'tinkering' with the network settings on the NeXT, and now it will > not boot at all. It just hangs at the "Starting YP Services" portion of > boot-up. Is there a way to by-pass networking during boot-up so that I > can correct the problem? Thanks... Boot the machine 'local', and then, make the changes.... sweet dreams, Phil -- Philippe C.D. Robert - CS Student @ University of Bern Webmaster of the NiCE - Swiss NeXT User Group NeXTmail & MIME are welcome @ Philippe.Robert@nice.ch http://www.nice.ch/~phip/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Followup-To: From: robert@iamexwi.unibe.ch (Philippe Robert) Organization: Dept. of CS, University of Berne, Switzerland Subject: Deepspacetech dead?! Message-ID: <345df93e.0@news.unibe.ch> Date: 3 Nov 97 16:18:06 GMT Hi, I ordered several articles from Deepspacetech, but didn't anything from them?! I sent 3 mails within 2 weeks....Are they still alive???? sweet dreams, Phil PS: A question 3 weeks ago concerning shipping was answered within a day! -- Philippe C.D. Robert - CS Student @ University of Bern Webmaster of the NiCE - Swiss NeXT User Group NeXTmail & MIME are welcome @ Philippe.Robert@nice.ch http://www.nice.ch/~phip/
From: Hari Rajagopal <grimgaunt@why.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will a mac external SCSI drive work on my slab ? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 13:57:15 -0600 Organization: Eastman Kodak Company Message-ID: <3458E69B.424F@why.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the opportunity to pick up one, will it work right off or is some recabling involved ?? -- Hari Rajagopal 214-828-4791 webpage: http://users.why.net/grimgaunt e-mail: grimgaunt@why.net
From: <user@msn.com> Subject: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:19:07 -0500 Message-ID: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Can you NXHost to an NT box running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT from a NeXT running OpenStep, thereby running NeXTSTEP apps on NT?
From: jking@incentre.net (Joseph A. King) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep won't install on 4gig drive. Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 21:22:46 GMT Organization: Oz New Media Inc. Message-ID: <345cee8b.128679@news.v-wave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Configuration: Dell XPS M200s 32MB RAM, 4Gig drive, Matrox Millenium Video Card. The drive is partitioned into the following pieces: 1. FAT (750MB) 2. Extended (2250MB) 2a. FAT (750MB) 2b. NTFS (1800MB) 3. Free Space (729MB) When installing I've selected the Primary/Seconday EIDE/ATAPI drivers for both the CD-ROM and the Hard Drive. The install process will get me up to the point where I can either select the free partition and keep all existing partitions or erase the entire drive (or use NeXT's version of fdisk to partition the drive). I elect at this point to keep all existing partitions and use the 730MB of free space for OpenStep. At this point the installer begins to initialize the free partition ("Preparing to install OpenStep") and thenn fails telling me "FAILED TO INITIALIZE DISK". When I later investigate the partitions OpenStep has created there is an OpenStep partition and it has been set to be the active partition although, obviously, nothing has been installed on it. I have not been able to find a way around this. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. jking. jking@v-wave.com
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a mac external SCSI drive work on my slab ? Date: 1 Nov 1997 22:39:17 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <63gb2l$k4i$2@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <3458E69B.424F@why.net> <EIys5J.5xB@nidat.sub.org> In article <EIys5J.5xB@nidat.sub.org>, Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > To my knowledge, Apple >still formats its drives to 2k sector size. NeXT only supports 1k and >1/2k sectors. Apple formats its drives to 512-byte sectors. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ135 will not format for DOS Date: 30 Oct 1997 18:36:39 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <63ak3n$h8v$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <637k5m$aoo$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <345836E4.41C6@de.ibm.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > The EZ135 drive will format for Mac or for NeXT, but not for DOS. That's correct. NeXTstep doesn't support formatting hard drives with the DOS FAT filesystem, and the EZ135 (and Zip, and Jaz, etc) is a hard drive to NeXTstep. You'll have to use a DOS system (or a Mac) to format it for DOS, after which NeXTstep (3.2 or 3.3 and later - can't remember) can use it fine. --- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: Doug <hamilto@cc.umanitoba.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:11:52 +0000 Organization: University of Manitoba Message-ID: <345DF7C6.DEE4BA67@cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following was found at www.macosrumors.com : "On the topic of OpenStep/Rhapsody's ability to run applications -- even the Finder itself, most likely -- across networks, earlier rumors indicating that Rhapsody can cast its new interface across networks has been proven. In OpenStep 4.2 for Intel, one reader was able to cast the Rhapsody DR1 UI across a network, causing a text editor to look the same as on its native system (a DR1/PPC machine), Mac-style menu bar and all." This might ellude to the possibility of running NXHost served from a NeXT system to OpenStep on Intel. Hope this helps a little bit. D.H.
From: toezmysoul@aol.com (Toezmysoul) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Parts On Macs? Date: 4 Nov 1997 01:23:10 GMT Message-ID: <19971104012300.UAA08840@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <63lm6k$pjf$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> If there's a way to use a NeXT monitor (specifically the Hitachi 21") with a mac I wish someone would post or email me. Thanks, j.
From: "Jan Husak" <jan.husak@swisscom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Attaching Barracuda 4XL to NeXTstation Date: 3 Nov 1997 07:53:41 GMT Organization: Swiss Telecom Message-ID: <01bce82d$9a6df100$cf95be8a@gd2zxk.swissptt.ch> Hi there, can anybody help me attaching my Seagate Barracuda 4XL to my NeXTstation? In detail, it's a Seagate ST32272 (2 GByte, 7200 rpm) and can be used with SCSI-1, SCSI-2. It's an internal harddisk When I attache this harddisk to my internenal connector, it powers up correctly but when accessing during boot, there is an error on sc0 (I jumpered it on ID 2) and SCSI return a error value 0x8. I would appreciate any help ... Thanks in advance -Jan ------------------------ (O O) Born Informatik AG --------oOO--(_)--OOo------ Jan Husak Tel.: ++41 (0)31 998 43 20 Berner Technopark Fax.: ++41 (0)31 994 06 65 Morgenstrasse 129 email: jan.husak@born.ch 3018 Bern http://www.born.ch ---------------------------------------------------
From: "David Glowacki" <dglow@microsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Magnesium Monitor? Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:52:50 -0800 Organization: Microsoft Corp. Message-ID: <63m6bc$t7b@news.microsoft.com> The following system was advertised on c.s.n.marketplace: > 68040 CUBE > 8 megs of ram > 320 hard drive > Optical drive (with cartridge) > Floppy drive (internal) > Monitor (very bright) Not the metal cased monster.68040 CUBE > Keyboard & Mouse "Not the metal cased monster"? Did NeXT ever sell MegaPixel displays with magnesium rather than plastic housings (that is, where more than just the cool froggie-stand was magnesium)... Couldn't find it in the FAQ, so I'm curious. Dave Glowacki
From: Username Not Specified <jugdish@beale.nospam.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT motherboard question Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:40:13 -0600 Organization: Organization Not Specified Message-ID: <345E52CD.6479@beale.nospam.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: jugdish@beale.com I am building what Rob Blessin calls a 'monster cube;' a Pentium family motherboard in an existing NeXT Cube. Since my Cube did not have a motherboard in it when I bought it, I don't have the dimensions of a NeXT cube motherboard, which I need for this project... What is the width (slot to slot) of the NeXT cube motherboard? I believe it is just under eleven inches. Any help would be appreciated. Frank C jugdish@beale.com
From: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Parts On Macs? Date: 3 Nov 1997 23:19:48 GMT Organization: Charter Communications International, Inc. Message-ID: <63lm6k$pjf$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> Does anyone have a web page, etc that lists what NeXT keyboards, monitors, CD drives, etc work on Macs? I know that many keyboards were ADB, and I saw on some web page someplace that someone was selling NeXT monitors that worked on Macs. If such a page does not exist I may have to create one. Is there some interest? It would be fun to attach a NeXT keyboad and monitor to a Mac running Rhapsody ... Good hardware lives a long time. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal web page at: <http://www.academ.com/houston/recycling> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
Subject: Re: OpenStep won't install on 4gig drive. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <345cee8b.128679@news.v-wave.com> In-Reply-To: <345cee8b.128679@news.v-wave.com> From: jsamson@istar.ca (Jean-Paul Samson) Message-ID: <e9z7.80$Ic4.683846@NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 06:20:58 GMT On 11/02/97, Joseph A. King wrote: >Dell XPS M200s 32MB RAM, 4Gig drive, Matrox Millenium Video Card. > >The drive is partitioned into the following pieces: > >1. FAT (750MB) >2. Extended (2250MB) >2a. FAT (750MB) >2b. NTFS (1800MB) >3. Free Space (729MB) > >I elect at this point to keep all existing partitions and use the >730MB of free space for OpenStep. At this point the installer begins >to initialize the free partition ("Preparing to install OpenStep") and >thenn fails telling me "FAILED TO INITIALIZE DISK". When I later >investigate the partitions OpenStep has created there is an OpenStep >partition and it has been set to be the active partition although, >obviously, nothing has been installed on it. I ran into this same problem when installing OPENSTEP and am quite certain you are suffering the same fate as I. OPENSTEP is sadly limited with its handling of large hard drives. Your problem is that the OPENSTEP partition must begin within the first 2 gigabytes of the hard drive. In this case, your OPENSTEP partition starts at the 3000 MB mark, which is too far. It needs to start before the 2000 MB mark. The only solution is to somehow make space on your current hard drive or buy a second hard drive. Jean-Paul -- -===================================================================- Jean-Paul C. Samson -==- jsamson@istar.ca (NeXTmail & MIME welcome) -=============- http://www.cs.ualberta.ca/~jeanpaul -=============- -===================================================================- "Microsoft is a fact of life. They're like the air we breathe. Perhaps a better analogy is bottled water, because you have to buy it." -- Steve Jobs, Apple Computer's Worldwide Developers Conference, May 16th, 1997 -===================================================================-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Totally vexing problem Message-ID: <62r13p$11a0$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> From: <ted.allen.nospam@theory1.physics.wisc.ude> Theodore J. Allen Date: 24 Oct 1997 20:40:25 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison I'm about to lose my mind, I fear. I posted recently to c.s.n.s. and now I think I have a hardware problem instead. I wrote earlier that we were in the middle of an upgrade to 100 Mbps ethernet and now one of our client machines has been having trouble with TeXview not launching. After a clean reboot, TeXview would work for a while but then it would refuse to launch and compile a .tex file. It even got so strange as to launch when I had Stuart.app open and then it would write to Stuart instead of to the TeXview Console before it decided to stop working altogether. Since nothing had changed save for the installation of an Intel EEPro/100B adapter (and an Adaptec 1520 SCSI adapter a week earlier) I suspected that perhaps the ethernet adapter was bad since the problem cropped up between the two additional cards. We have another identical machine that underwent the same treatment but is working just fine. OK, so I switched the EEPro/100B to another PCI slot. Rats, same problem. Then I swapped ethercards with another machine and reseated all the cards, the CPU, and put the RAM into the other bank. Now TeXview works fine but Opener stops working just the way TeXview used to!! I'm suspecting bad RAM or bad motherboard, perhaps damaged when I did the hardware upgrade. Does anyone have an idea as to whether this is reasonable? I'm going to swap parts around until I find the culprit but I'd love to have a clue before I randomly test everything in sight. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/ Ted.Allen@theory1 .physics .wisc .edu
From: Marc Monticelli <monticel@inln.cnrs.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 6MP Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:57:41 +0100 Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <345EFFA5.AB3FA06E@inln.cnrs.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does someone know if OpenStep can drive a HP 6MP printer ? Can we use a the 5MP driver ? Thanks ...Marc Monticelli
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Magnesium Monitor? Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 07:53:03 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg166593.thr-ef5e6e2c.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <63m7gv$4mj@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg166593.thr-ef5e6e2c.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes: >I can't tell that the N4000 display is metal (I think it's plastic) but it >is damn heavy. It's about 2-2.5 times as heavy as an N4000A display. I have an N4000 and it's definitely plastic but with a magnesium alloy stand. -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Magnesium Monitor? Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:15:55 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <63m7gv$4mj@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> David Glowacki wrote in article <63m6bc$t7b@news.microsoft.com>... >The following system was advertised on c.s.n.marketplace: > >> 68040 CUBE >> 8 megs of ram >> 320 hard drive >> Optical drive (with cartridge) >> Floppy drive (internal) >> Monitor (very bright) Not the metal cased monster.68040 CUBE >> Keyboard & Mouse > >"Not the metal cased monster"? Did NeXT ever sell MegaPixel displays with >magnesium rather than plastic housings (that is, where more than just the >cool froggie-stand was magnesium)... > >Couldn't find it in the FAQ, so I'm curious. I can't tell that the N4000 display is metal (I think it's plastic) but it is damn heavy. It's about 2-2.5 times as heavy as an N4000A display. Mitch
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Parts On Macs? Date: 4 Nov 1997 03:17:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <63m44p$c07$4@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <63lm6k$pjf$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> <19971104012300.UAA08840@ladder02.news.aol.com> In article <19971104012300.UAA08840@ladder02.news.aol.com>, Toezmysoul <toezmysoul@aol.com> wrote: >If there's a way to use a NeXT monitor (specifically the Hitachi 21") with a > mac I wish someone would post or email me. www.nashville.net/~griffin Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: 4 Nov 1997 08:12:46 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <63mldu$3cp$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> <user@msn.com> wrote: > Can you NXHost to an NT box running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT from > a NeXT running OpenStep, thereby running NeXTSTEP apps on NT? Yes. --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: Denis Olivier <dolivier@tiga.systonic.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RSA Secret Key Challenge ! we need your power computing ! Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:34:43 +0100 Organization: Systonic, Bordeaux, France. Message-ID: <345F4EA3.1A81@tiga.systonic.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit RSA Secret Key Challenge ! we need your power computing ! We GET some places in the TEAM Rank !!!!! :))))))) The Novell Team is now under us ! Tell about us to your friends ! http://rc5stats.distributed.net/tmsummary.idc?TM=159 WE NEED MORE POWER !!!!!!!!!!! 31 Oct 1997 07:59 Email : 46 Team : 34 blocks : 29413 k/s : 7616.38 30 Oct 1997 20:59 Email : 179 Team : 89 blocks : 4435 k/s : 1722.63 30 Oct 1997 18:59 Email : 180 Team : 83 blocks : 4302 k/s : 1670.63 30 Oct 1997 14:59 Email : 186 Team : 62 blocks : 4063 k/s : 1577.63 30 Oct 1997 12:59 Email : 187 Team : 52 blocks : 3967 k/s : 1540.63 30 Oct 1997 11:59 Email : 187 Team : 49 blocks : 3909 k/s : 1518.96 30 Oct 1997 10:59 Email : 188 Team : 49 blocks : 3870 k/s : 1502.96 WE NEED MORE POWER, just for the act !!!! When you're not rendering, please computing !!!! There's clients for Unix, HPUX, SGI, SCO, LINUX, NT, 95, MAC, BeOS, DOS, RHAPSODY etc... If you want to join the Team, please email me for me to tell you what identification you need to use to cumulate with our results. Or directly go to our site specially created for the challenge : http://www.systonic.fr/rc5/ POV-RC5 mailing created : ----------------------- As members are from many countries, the language will be english here !! to send message to the list, the email address is : pov-rc5-request@tiga.systonic.fr with the words "join pov-rc5" in the body. You will receive discussion and stats on our team !!! If friends are not here, please them me their email. -- Denis Olivier, http://www.povlab.org, 3D modeller for POV-Ray 3.0 __________________________________________________________________ An image ? http://www.povlab.org/cyber.asp?url=download/pgtsb.jpg Job and work area http://www.cyberstation.fr/~dolivier/artist.html
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <345F4EA3.1A81@tiga.systonic.fr> Control: cancel <345F4EA3.1A81@tiga.systonic.fr> Date: 04 Nov 1997 16:53:05 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.345F4EA3.1A81@tiga.systonic.fr> Sender: Denis Olivier <dolivier@tiga.systonic.fr> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: Marc Monticelli <monticel@inln.cnrs.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 17:48:08 +0100 Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis Message-ID: <345F51C8.7F858124@inln.cnrs.fr> References: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> <63mldu$3cp$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Marcel Bresink <bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> Marcel Bresink wrote: > > <user@msn.com> wrote: > > Can you NXHost to an NT box running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT from > > a NeXT running OpenStep, thereby running NeXTSTEP apps on NT? > > Yes. > Are you sure ? Have you try it. It doesn't work at our lab. NeXT also had say it doesn't work. But if you can, explain me how. Thanks.
From: "Stephen J. Perkins" <perkins@ti.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RSA Secret Key Challenge ! we need your power computing ! Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:38:29 -0600 Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. Message-ID: <345F5D95.6FDAD255@ti.com> References: <345F4EA3.1A81@tiga.systonic.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Denis Olivier wrote: > > RSA Secret Key Challenge ! we need your power computing ! > > We GET some places in the TEAM Rank !!!!! :))))))) > The Novell Team is now under us ! > > Tell about us to your friends ! > > http://rc5stats.distributed.net/tmsummary.idc?TM=159 > > WE NEED MORE POWER !!!!!!!!!!! > > 31 Oct 1997 07:59 Email : 46 Team : 34 blocks : 29413 k/s : 7616.38 > 30 Oct 1997 20:59 Email : 179 Team : 89 blocks : 4435 k/s : 1722.63 > 30 Oct 1997 18:59 Email : 180 Team : 83 blocks : 4302 k/s : 1670.63 > 30 Oct 1997 14:59 Email : 186 Team : 62 blocks : 4063 k/s : 1577.63 > 30 Oct 1997 12:59 Email : 187 Team : 52 blocks : 3967 k/s : 1540.63 > 30 Oct 1997 11:59 Email : 187 Team : 49 blocks : 3909 k/s : 1518.96 > 30 Oct 1997 10:59 Email : 188 Team : 49 blocks : 3870 k/s : 1502.96 > > WE NEED MORE POWER, just for the act !!!! > When you're not rendering, please computing !!!! > There's clients for Unix, HPUX, SGI, SCO, LINUX, NT, 95, MAC, BeOS, > DOS, RHAPSODY etc... > I've been wanting to do this for awhile on my NeXT using Prelude to Rhapsody. Unfortunately, I live behind a firewall. Has anybody gotten a client to work via some communication mechanism like email or http? I don't have the option to put any type of pass thru into the firewall. TIA for any info! - Steve
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable for Ext. ZIP Date: 4 Nov 1997 18:03:40 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <63no1s$9ko$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <63e76g$2fk@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Steve Eggers <stevee617@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >What kind of cable do I need to get to use my external Zip drive with my >color slab? > >and where do I get one? :-) > >Thanks > >Steve > I got my SCSI cable for ZIP from Best Buy for under $20. Just bring a terminator from your external harddisk or CD to show them what the other end needs to look like. Rudy.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie Memory Question Date: 4 Nov 1997 22:51:23 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <63o8tb$f2m$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <345F79DE.10C3@removeme.emory.org> Curtis Crowson <curtis_crowson@removeme.emory.org> wrote: > I just bought 2 32 Meg 60ns simms. They are working great. The Turbo > Slab had 16 Meg originally. When I originally used the m command in the > monitor. It said that I had > 16 Megs ... > 8 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... > 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... > > I thought this meant that I had 2 empty slots, but when I opened it I > noticed that all 4 slots were full. The memory bus of these machines requires SIMM's to be paired. Furthermore, SIMM's are either single or double-sided. 4 MB SIMM's are single sided, so two 4 MB SIMM's provide 8 MB of RAM in slots 0 & 1, and are described as being in the "front". > I jumped to the conclusion that 2 of > the simms were bad or something like that. I installed the 32 Meg simms > and rebooted. The monitor now said > > 72 Megs ... > 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... > 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... > 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... > > I still did not understand the message. After I read the message for the > 50th time I finally understood that my memory was Okay 4 MB and 16 MB SIMM's are single-sided. 8 MB and 32 MB SIMM's are double-sided. That's why the two 32's you have register as 32 in front and 32 in back. > After some head scratching I realized that the memory was okay. > > Is my conclusion correct? How do I tell what speed the 2 sets of 8 meg > simms are? Often the chips are labelled. Failing that, your computer will try to recognize what the chips claim to be. > what speed they are via the last few pins > They seem to be different. I am tired of putting my monitor > on the floor and opening up the machine switching the memory arround and > then reconnecting the monitor and then rebooting holding the Command > Command tilde keys. A few last questions. I think one set of the 8 meg > simms is 100ns and one set is 70ns, my 32 Meg Simms are 60ns. The > machine recognizes the 60ns correctly (when I put it in one set of the > banks it says the memory is 60ns). What are the rules about where to put > memory? I don't think it matters for black hardware, although normally as a general rule you put the largest size SIMM's in the first set of slots. > Will the Next change speeds to use the different speed simms? No-- the memory bus will run at the speed of the slowest SIMM's you have. If you have two 4MB 70's and two 100's, use the 70's. > Which Slots should I put the simms in to get the best performance? It shouldn't matter. > How could I test this? Look at the ROM monitor memory config and the verbose boot messages. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: fischer@fokus.gmd.de (Robert Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: 5 Nov 1997 11:30:58 GMT Organization: GMD-FOKUS Message-ID: <63pldi$a4g@stern.fokus.gmd.de> References: <63mldu$3cp$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Marcel Bresink writes > <user@msn.com> wrote: > > Can you NXHost to an NT box running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT from > > a NeXT running OpenStep, thereby running NeXTSTEP apps on NT? > > Yes. Not quite true. It seems to work for about 95%. There are problems with Fonts (no fonts available in font panel, while different sizes work), several problems with dragging (no color dragging, Diagram drag-n-drop works). So: it seems to work, but you can't know, where dead ends appear. It may be acceptable sometimes but not for daily work. Robert -- --- - .-. -- -- --- / \ ---- Robert Fischer .-. / \ --- .-. __o .-. @ / \ / \ / \ _`\<,_ / \ GMD-Fokus / \ / \ / \ (*)/ (*) / `-------------- / `---' `-' `-----------' P.S. Here's how: - On NT: telnet <nexthost> - On <nexthost>: /NextApps/Edit.app/Edit -NXHost <nt-host> This works for OSE4.2 clients with NS3.3 and OS4.2 on server side.
From: Curtis Crowson <curtis_crowson@removeme.emory.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie Memory Question Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 14:39:11 -0500 Organization: Emory University System of Health Care Message-ID: <345F79DE.10C3@removeme.emory.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just bought 2 32 Meg 60ns simms. They are working great. The Turbo Slab had 16 Meg originally. When I originally used the m command in the monitor. It said that I had 16 Megs ... 8 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... 0 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... I thought this meant that I had 2 empty slots, but when I opened it I noticed that all 4 slots were full. I jumped to the conclusion that 2 of the simms were bad or something like that. I installed the 32 Meg simms and rebooted. The monitor now said 72 Megs ... 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... I still did not understand the message. After I read the message for the 50th time I finally understood that my memory was Okay After some head scratching I realized that the memory was okay. Is my conclusion correct? How do I tell what speed the 2 sets of 8 meg simms are? They seem to be different. I am tired of putting my monitor on the floor and opening up the machine switching the memory arround and then reconnecting the monitor and then rebooting holding the Command Command tilde keys. A few last questions. I think one set of the 8 meg simms is 100ns and one set is 70ns, my 32 Meg Simms are 60ns. The machine recognizes the 60ns correctly (when I put it in one set of the banks it says the memory is 60ns). What are the rules about where to put memory? Will the Next change speeds to use the different speed simms? Which Slots should I put the simms in to get the best performance? How could I test this? -- Spam protection in place. remove the removeme from the address to reply.
From: mrf142@psu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT on Ethernet Date: 5 Nov 1997 16:07:54 GMT Organization: Penn State University Sender: mrf142@0.0.0.0 Message-ID: <63q5kq$s1q@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> I am new to NeXT and consider purchasing one. Obviously, NeXT machines are designed for networking. Do NeXT machines have built in Ethernet controllers, etc, that would allow me to easily establish a TCP/IP connection over 10 Base T? Thank you Matt
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Networking NeXT and Mac Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 07:54:05 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg167057.thr-2ce40d19.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> <345F9408.7CEC@removeme.emory.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg167057.thr-2ce40d19.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> curtis_crowson@removeme.emory.org,UseNet writes: >> Hello: >> >> I am thinking of moving my NeXTStation Color home >> where I have a PowerBook 520 with an Ethernet >> port and a Personal LaserWriter NTX that works >> on AppleTalk. My question is: >> Is there a way to newtork the NeXT, the Mac, >> and the LaserWriter? I'd like to be able >> to print without the hassle of moving files >> on floppies etc. >> >> Please e-mail me a recipe for this at wj@writeme.com >> >> Thank you. >I believe You want Caper. I asked this question myself recently. I >haven't used it yet (I have to talk my wife into wiring my house with >ethernet ;-)). Here at home we have a turbo cube, two mac 6100s, a powerbook 3400 and a 520c all on an ethernet network (oh, we print to the black laser). Capper works just great. Primarily we use it to print queue for the laser printer, but file sharing also works just fine. -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP on new HP Kayak XU? Date: 5 Nov 1997 19:44:51 GMT Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <63qibj$vt0$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: Kayak, HP, NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Hi, A few months ago we ordered 6 HP Vectra XU computers, which are PP-200 systems and seem perfectly compatible with NEXTSTEP 3.3 and OPENSTEP 4.2. Of the 6 we ordered, 3 have arrived and 3 have not. HP says the Vectra XU has been discontinued and superceded by the Kayak XU. We have a choice: we can switch our order and get 3 Kayaks or we can wait for them to fill the order with Vectras (which they still can get). Does anyone have any experience with the Kayak and either NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP? I don't know of any reason they should not work, but I've been burned before and I'm trying to be careful. In contrast to the Vectra, the Kayak uses a Pentium II chip, the 440-LX chipset, a Matrox Millennium II video card, SDRAM, and has 2 SCSI controllers: one ultra wide (Adaptec AIC 7880) and one ultra (Adaptec AIC 7860). I looked at NeXTanswers. They have a driver for the AIC 7880, but there is no mention of the 7860. Does anyone have any information about that? Otherwise, it seems like all of this should work, but I'd sure like to hear from someone who has actually tried it. On the one hand, I hate to pass up the chance to get the system with the newer technology, but I'd be very frustrated if we ordered the newer systems and they didn't work with NEXTSTEP. Any comments and/or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Gregg -- Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drive on Black Hardware??? Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 16:37:45 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971030163519.27458B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <19971027002801.TAA21784@ladder02.news.aol.com> <EIruu8.63z@nidat.sub.org> <Pine.LNX.3.96.971028162422.8265B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <639fi6$lb@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de In-Reply-To: <639fi6$lb@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> On 30 Oct 1997, Rainer Frohnh=F6fer wrote: > Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> wrote: > >This does not reflect my experiences - I currently use an Apple CD-300e > >with my TurboColor, and used it with my mono slab before that. >=20 > Got a CD300 (the ony with caddies) here. Worked fine. Some things are no= t=20 > possible (playing music, for example). That's odd, since music plays fine on mine. OmniCD can even record direct to digital across the SCSI bus with my CD-300. (The quality isn't very good, but it can be done.) -Isaac
From: "Ruben Espinosa's News" <redbull@grupo.bfe.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.markt.comp.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,fido.hardware-ger,fras.text.hardware,it.comp.hardware Subject: Excepcional Hardware Guide Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 03:02:08 -0000 Message-ID: <63rbkv$cc0$1@duke.telepac.pt> IT's for Newbies, Its for the ones who loves the Testing Stuff, Its for the Drivers Maniacs It's Ruben's Hardware Guide: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7347/
From: "Ruben Espinosa's News" <redbull@grupo.bfe.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.markt.comp.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,fido.hardware-ger,fras.text.hardware,it.comp.hardware,it.comp.hardware.modem,it.co Subject: Incredible Ruben's Hardaware Guide Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 03:02:30 -0000 Message-ID: <63rblk$8a3$1@duke.telepac.pt> IT's for Newbies, Its for the ones who loves the Testing Stuff, Its for the Drivers Maniacs It's Ruben's Hardware Guide: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7347/
From: "Ruben Espinosa's News" <redbull@grupo.bfe.pt> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.markt.comp.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,fido.hardware-ger,fras.text.hardware,it.comp.hardware,it.comp.hardware.modem,it.co Subject: The Ruben's Hardware Guide Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:58:27 -0000 Message-ID: <63rbe2$js4$1@duke.telepac.pt> HARDWARE FOR NEWBIES, TEST & BENCH OF YOUR MACHINES AND TEST RESULTS YOU MAY SENT TO ME, THE LASTEST DRIVERS OF SEVERAL COMPONENTS, Lastest reviews etc....... HTTP://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7347/
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: pictures of NeXT hardware Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 22:10:56 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <63iuae$iqv$1@usenet48.supernews.com> im looking for pictures of NeXT machines.. cubes.. slabs.. i dont care anything : ) also im a rather new user to NeXT hardware.. is there any place i can look for beginner sort of information? on a basic/general level.. that sorta thing? plz lemme know.. thx tdå
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: echu@ceco.com Subject: Re: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Message-ID: <34612e3e.513170880@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:41:35 GMT Don't think openstep runs one the 5/170's sorry HTH eric c echu@ceco.com On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600, Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> wrote: >I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with >160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and >SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the >SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting >something like this... > >Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the >Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I >think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? > >ok boot cdrom >(press -v for verbose output) >(prompt for language) >(type 1 to prepare to install) >---> 1 >Loading OPENSTEP >Loading mach_kernel >Reading OPENSTEP configuration >Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld >Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver >Loading binary for SunLE device driver >Loading binary for SCSAController device driver >Starting OPENSTEP >NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; >root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC >physical memory = 160.00 megabytes >using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory >available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b >Ethernet address = blah >espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 >esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) >ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 >zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) >zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) >Memory access exception (1,1,1e) >Waiting for remote debugger connection > >Thanks! >Any help appreciated. >dan at recycled dot net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: IDE on Black Hardware? Message-ID: <EILt3o.A3I@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <62fuin$kgt$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 10:57:24 GMT In article <62fuin$kgt$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> writes: Windchaser <windchsr@cyberspace.org> wrote: > > I'd like to use the much cheaper IDE drives on my NeXTStation. > > The solution to your problem is to find a mail-order vendor who > does not rip you off by charging different prices for otherwise > identical drives. > IDE is cheaper for two reasons. First, they sell in much bigger quantities and the market is much tougher. Second, IDE offloads a good chunk of the drive operations to the CPU. SCSI controllers must do that on their own. Thus, electronics and design/manufacturing cost are indeed higher. On the other hand, money is just not all to the game. Running a 12x CD/ROM over IDE can keep a Pentium 100 for 70% busy during data transfer. A SCSI device takes less than 5%! That might (or might not) be fine for Windooze where there is not much to be gained from idle CPU time in the background. But if you run OPENSTEP and have some heavy compilation task (build of a major app, for instance) you will really feel the difference. BTW, I'd like to see someone post both Spec Marks for a PC with first IDE and then SCSI drives of same size on an otherwise identical system. Would be interesting! I can't do it on my own since I don't run any PC hardware and I plan to keep it that way. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Is it possible..... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIJDyJ.2tB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:35:07 GMT References: <344FA925.42A58F1B@worldnet.att.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <344FA925.42A58F1B@worldnet.att.net>, Steve Eggers <stevee617@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >Is it possible to use on of those Sonnet Technologies QuadDoubler to >upgrade a ColorStation? > In general, no. Reports from various people indicate that it doesn't work. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: michael@meetmeonline.nospam.com (Michael) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] Adaptec 2940 != Adaptec 2940 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:42:28 -0600 Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Message-ID: <7D1B2F83FDA24363.9ECBD238241BCB8F.2E680F1858C3BB55@library-proxy.airnews.net> References: <63sq5k$4s$1@news.Leiden.NL.net> NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Thu Nov 6 12:40:03 1997 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <63sq5k$4s$1@news.Leiden.NL.net>, jwdb@fygir.nl (Jan-Willem de Bruijn) wrote: > Recently we tried to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a new system that was all SCSI > (hard disk, CD-ROM) with an Adaptec 2940 as the controller. According to > NeXTanswers, 2940's are supported, as well as 2940U, 2940W and 2940UW. > To be on the safe side we used the latest 3.37 driver. > > We failed. Error message: can't get configSpace; ABORTING. > > We fiddled around with the SCSI settings, but to no avail. > > It turned out that it was an 2940AU card (with BIOS 1.30). We tried several > alternatives: a 2940/2940U+ (BIOS 1.21 and 1.23), these also failed (with the > same symptom), and a 2940 (BIOS 1.16), and this one worked. > > Apparently there is more than meets the eye in Adaptec 2940 cards. Does > anyone have similar experiences, and can they tell me which combinations of > card type/BIOS definitely do not work and which ones do? Go to http://www.dejanews.com/ and search for nextstep and 2940. You should get the answer there. I'm using one (2940AU) in my Mach 4.2 box and have used it with Mach 3.3. Michael.
From: sulrich@visi.com (Steve Ulrich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Probs Booting Color TurboStation Date: 7 Nov 1997 02:49:54 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <63tvki$f4v$1@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Date: 06 Nov 1997 20:49:54 CST I just got ahold of a Color TurboStation and I'm having a bit o' trouble getting it going. When we first started the installation we were having a bit of trouble with the Keyboard, (ADB) we weren't able to determine the problem with the keyboard so we installed using an older non-adb keyboard mouse combination. Well we determined from the FAQ that I had an outdated ROM 3.1 v71 and to support the ADB keyboard I would need at least v74 and the appropriate monitor cable, which I did have. After the installation which went smooth as silk We upgraded the ROM to v74 and made our discovery regarding the Monitor cable. However... while my keyboard works now, I can't boot the machine. I get dumped in what appears to be a kernel debugger. I have a clean installation of 3.3 that was working with the old (non-adb) keyboard beautifully, a working adb keyboard and error messages that appear on the screen like nmi: pc 0x409f55c sr 0x2700 isp 0x4001174 ksp 0x400118c usp 0x9 nmi> Now the nmi> prompt has a very gdb like interface. I feel like I'm in a kernel debugger of some sort. I enter the continue command at the prompt and nothing happens. I'm truly at a loss. I would appreciate any feedback or suggestions. If anyone has run across this before I would be immensely grateful for your input. -- later... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Ulrich http://www.visi.com/~sulrich/ sulrich@geeks.org Misc Info:finger sulrich@visi.com
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT keyboard manufacturer? Date: 6 Nov 1997 20:19:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <63u1b4$gnb@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <63tj7k$8ue$1@usenet76.supernews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: samp@primus.paranoia.com In <63tj7k$8ue$1@usenet76.supernews.com> Jose Alverez wrote: > Does anyone know who made the original NeXT keyboards? (Im assuming they > were oem'd by NeXT) > Are they making similar keyboards for PC's? (same feel etc) > I cant find a PC keyboard thats even remotely as nice. My spare KB (which just happened to be open for cleaning) has "ALPS 56AAA0884C" written on it's circuit board... so ALPS? This is the "old" NeXT keyboard, with the slash and pipe avobe the return key... -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: hugh@!spam.twics.com (Hugh Ashton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fixed-freqency cards for black monitors Date: 7 Nov 1997 00:01:00 GMT Organization: Technical Writer Message-ID: <63tlns$bu4$1@news.tokyo.mbn.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I've been looking at building up an Intel box, using a NeXT Hitachi 21" monitor. Choices of video cards seem to come down to the DeepSpace Gemini or the Photon 3DM-NeXT (replacement for the 564-NeXT). Unfortunately, neither of these appears to come with a NEXTSTEP/OpenStep driver. Does anyone know of a driver for either of these two cards (I am forced to run MS products sometimes, but would prefer to run NS for most of my work)? Alternatively, are there any other cards which would drive a 68Hz fixed-frequency 21" Hitachi happily? The Photon card uses a Cirrus CL-GD5480, btw. I don't know about the DeepSpace. I'll try to keep checking this group, but if you could cc me by mail, this would be appreciated (remove !spam). Thanks in advance. Hugh Ashton Tokyo 181, Mitaka-shi, Jindaiji 2-35-51-201 Tel: 0422 31 7990 Fax: 0422 31 7048 PHS: 050 710 5641
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fixed-freqency cards for black monitors Date: 7 Nov 1997 04:57:37 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <63u741$85m$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <63tlns$bu4$1@news.tokyo.mbn.or.jp> Cc: Hugh Ashton <hugh@twics.com> wrote: > >The Photon card uses a Cirrus CL-GD5480, btw. I don't know about the >DeepSpace. DeepSpace card's is Gemini C1 by SI87 (System Integrator 87), that use ET6000 chipset (nice and fast under Linux and Win95, no driver for NeXTstep :( I've been in conversation with Joe from SI87, and he said that currently there is not enough demand to write a driver for NS. Currently I'm debating whether to keep this 21in-Gemini combo (and stuck with no ability to boot NeXT/intel) or just sell and get a nice real multisync monitor. FWIW, Paulus
From: William Sandman III <wsandman@nospam.priceweber.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help boting N1100(slab) with NextStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:38:30 -0500 Organization: PriceWeber Marketing Communications Message-ID: <34622AC6.B6A1E2B7@nospam.priceweber.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, I've recently purchased a NeXT N1100 (b&w slab.) It had no memory or hd. I installed 20MB of memory and a 1.2G Seagate HD. I purchased a copy of NextSStep 3.3 for NeXT/Intel and have tried to boot it using the command b fd -s from the ROM monitor. I seeks the CDROM and then gives me an Trap 2 and what appease to be some sort of a register dump. I need to try it again since I don't have the dump info just now, but any observatios from the NeXT wise would be appreciated. Best, William p.s. remove the nosapm from the email for obvious reasons... ;-)
From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ByteWare Cafe has some new prices on our Hard Drives. Date: 7 Nov 1997 06:37:53 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <63ud01$7aj$0@209.66.83.145> Summary: HARD DRIVES Keywords: HARD DRIVES The following prices are in US$. Maxtor 81280A 1.2 GB IDE DiamondMax 138 Maxtor 81750 1.7 GB IDE CrystalMax D2-Ultra-DMA 141 Maxtor 82560A 2.5 GB IDE DiamondMax 175 Maxtor 83240A 3.2 GB IDE CrystalMax D4-Ultra 212 Maxtor 84320A 4.3 GB IDE 262 Maxtor 84000A 4 GB IDE 259 Maxtor 85250 5.2 GB IDE D6-Ultra-DMA 297 Maxtor 87000D 7.0 GB IDE DiamondMax Ultra-DMA 369 Quantum 2.1 GB IDE ST 183 Quantum Fireball-ST 2.1 GB SCSI-2 223 Quantum 2.2 GB Wide SCSI 297 Quantum Fireball ST 3.2 GB SCSI 282 Quantum 3.2 GB ST IDE 198 Quantum 4.3 GB IDE ST 260 Quantum Fireball ST 4.3 GB SCSI 315 Quantum 4.5 GB Wide SCSI 682 Quantum 6.4 GB IDE ST 337 Quantum Fireball ST 6.4 GB SCSI 413 Seagate 1.2 Gb IDE 119 Seagate 1.7 Gb IDE 132 Seagate 2.1 GB IDE 164 Seagate ST32171N 2.15 GB Ultra SCSI 499 Seagate 2.5 GB IDE 178 Seagate ST34371N 4.35 GB SCSI Baracuda - Narrow 713 Western Digital 1.2 GB IDE 138 Western Digital AC21600 1.6 GB IDE 152 Western Digital AC22000 2.0 GB IDE 169 Western Digital E2170 2.17 GB Ultra Fast SCSI 517 Western Digital 2.5 GB IDE 189 Western Digital AC33200 3.2 GB IDE 201 Western Digital WDAC34000 4.0 GB IDE 264 Western Digital AC34300 4.3 GB IDE 244 Western Digital E4370 4.3 GB Ultra Fast SCSI 737 Western Digital AC35100 5.1 GB IDE 292 We also carry CPU's, Cases, Floppy Drives, Tape Drives, Speakers, Contoller Cards, IO Cards, Sound Cards, Monitors, Video Cards, Keyboards, Mice and and Software. We are open 24 hrs. a day, 7days a week for your convenience at http://www.bytewarecafe.com/ We accept MC/VISA/AMEX - NO SURCHARGE! Thank you. November 6, 1997
From: samp@primus.paranoia.com (Jose Alverez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT keyboard manufacturer? Date: 6 Nov 1997 23:18:12 GMT Organization: Overcome by Paranoia Message-ID: <63tj7k$8ue$1@usenet76.supernews.com> Does anyone know who made the original NeXT keyboards? (Im assuming they were oem'd by NeXT) Are they making similar keyboards for PC's? (same feel etc) I cant find a PC keyboard thats even remotely as nice. Thanks, Jose
From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What Keyboards work with Turbo Date: 27 Oct 1997 20:49:07 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.285.0194 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <632uo3$gbc$1@news-2.csn.net> I have one of the last Color Turbo's to leave the NeXT factory at the time of its demise. The keyboard appears to have stopped functioning. I can use the green on/off key but none of the other keys work, including the mouse. Does this sound like the keyboard is bad or is it a connection further up the ADB chain? If it is the keyboard, will an Apple keyboard work, or do I need to purchase a new one? Thanks, Brendan
From: posten@sesd.ilex.com (Sam Posten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,de.markt.comp.hardware,fido.ger.hardware,fido.hardware-ger,fras.text.hardware,it.comp.hardware,it.comp.hardware.modem,it.co Subject: Re: Incredible Ruben's Hardaware Guide Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:33:48 GMT Organization: SuperLink Internet Services (732) 432-5454 Sender: (@4^WN*%,(; @198.97.107.197 Message-ID: <63vccv$j44$1@earth.superlink.net> References: <63rblk$8a3$1@duke.telepac.pt> Yah, I'm going to trust a benchmarks page from a guy who doesn't own/use a spelling checker.... Sam On Thu, 6 Nov 1997 03:02:30 -0000, "Ruben Espinosa's News" <redbull@grupo.bfe.pt> wrote: >IT's for Newbies, Its for the ones who loves the Testing Stuff, Its for the >Drivers Maniacs It's >Ruben's Hardware Guide: >http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/7347/ > >
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] installing large drive and want 2 OpenStep partitions Date: 7 Nov 1997 22:40:45 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Now before you jump all over me, I've already searched NeXTAnswers to the best of my ability. It appears their search tool doesn't turn anything up with the query's I've tried. I have a 4.5Gb disk that I'd like to install. I want to partition it as follows: 2GB OpenStep partition mounted as / 2GB OpenStep partition mounted as /Disk .5GB Dos partition mounted as /dos I understand that OpenStep/Mach can't deal with partitions greater than 2Gb, thus the reason why I want 2 2GB partitions. How can I parition it and format the 2 2GB partitions for OpenStep with one as the root (if it matters). Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: Joe McCarthy <mccarthy@si87.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fixed-freqency cards for black monitors Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 18:32:56 -0700 Organization: Software Integrators Inc, Message-ID: <3463C148.3B5F@si87.com> References: <63tlns$bu4$1@news.tokyo.mbn.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: hugh@twics.com Hugh Ashton wrote: > > I've been looking at building up an Intel box, using a NeXT Hitachi 21" > monitor. > Alternatively, are there any other cards which would drive a 68Hz > fixed-frequency 21" Hitachi happily? > I'll try to keep checking this group, but if you could cc me by mail, > this would be appreciated (remove !spam). > > Thanks in advance. > Hugh Ashton Our Gemini cards will run NEXTSTEP under the VGA driver. The Gemini cards will also drive your NeXT monitor. The Gemini P1 will drive all workstation monitors. Joe ****************************************************************** * Joe McCarthy | Toll free: 800-547-2349 * * Software Integrators Inc. | Phone: 406-586-4987 * * 104 East Main Street | Fax: 406-586-9145 * * Suite 206 | BBS: 406-586-9610 * * Bozeman, MT 59715 | Email: mccarthy@si87.com * ****************************************************************** * WEB PAGE -> http://www.si87.com * ******************************************************************
From: Brent Clothier <bclothie@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VIA chipsets and busmastering Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:09:13 -0600 Organization: Beckman Institute Message-ID: <34638379.41C6@uiuc.edu> References: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit TaiQ: I would think that the VIA chipsets should work just fine with NS 3.x, OS 4.x, or Rhapsody. While these chipsets are obviously designed with Windows platforms in mind, none (that I know of) have required special drivers to operate under Microsoft's operating systems. My conclusion is that underlying logic differences are completely transparent to the operating system, ie. they are compatible with Intel's VX, HX, and TX Pentium chipsets. All optimizations are done internally. Speaking of optimizations, benchmarks run under Windows 95 and Windows NT have shown motherboards with the VIA VP2 chipset to be the fastest Windows based Pentium boards (ie. FIC PA-2007 with 512K cache). For the latest information of this kind go to Tom's Hardware Guide. This Website is the most respected Intel-based component benchmarking site on the Internet: http://www.tomshardware.com/ To answer your question about IDE bus mastering, the VIA VP2 chipset has been tweaked to be a bit faster than Intel's TX chipset. I doubt, though, that within resolution of the benchmarks and manufacturing tolerances, that this is relevant. Micron uses the Southbridge PCI chip from the VIA VP2 chipset to augment its Samurai chipset (which it is selling in its latest systems). I purchased an FIC PA-2007 motherboard and it runs extremely fast. It is paired with the fastest EIDE drive on the market (IBM 6.4GB Deskstar 5) and so I am getting blazing hard drive performance. Unfortunately I am not yet running NS 3.x or OS 4.x so I cannot comment on that issue. I am saving up so I can buy the media so maybe in a couple months I can post a response if anyone is still interested. Lastly, about the VP3 chipset, Tom's Hardware Guide tested the first board (FIC PA-2012) with this chipset and showed that it still needs more optimizing. It is not as fast as the VP2 boards and requires a special driver to enable AGP under Windows. Since NS 3.x and OS 4.x do not utilize AGP my suggestion would be to stay away from this chipset and use the VP2 only. I have been rather doubtful about the need for AGP anyway. Sounds more like excellent Intel marketing than engineering. Many of the PCI video cards have efficient accelerator/memory buses on them anyway. This shows up in the benchmarking. So far PCI versions have beat out their AGP equivalents, although only by slight margins. A number of cards store fast and large caches of video memory on them (like the 16MB Matrox Millenium II) and this trend is likely to continue. Brent
From: MARMIER Raphael <marmier4@hei.unige.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] installing large drive and want 2 OpenStep partitions Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 04:54:41 +0100 Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971108044831.138A-100000@hei.unige.ch> References: <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE To: daj@nwu.edu In-Reply-To: <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> Hi On 7 Nov 1997 daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have a 4.5Gb disk that I'd like to install. I want to partition it as = follows: > 2GB OpenStep partition mounted as / > 2GB OpenStep partition mounted as /Disk > .5GB Dos partition mounted as /dos >=20 Scott Hess offers a nice FAQ on the matter: http://www.doubleu.com/Partition.html I don't know much on the topic myself. Consider using Vmount to mount your dos (Vfat, you must be using win95), as it will keep your long filenames. Can be found at ftp.peak.org cheers Raph -------- Raphael marmier=09--> marmier4@hei.unige.ch =09=09--> http://marmier4@hei.unige.ch/=C4marmier4
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] DPT PM2144UW controller References: <640qgv$gdd$1@excalibur.flash.net> From: John Kheit <jkheit@xtdl.com> Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <3463ff50.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 8 Nov 97 05:57:36 GMT daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have a DPT PM2144UW SCSI controller I'm trying to install in > place of my exisiting Adaptec 2940. When I install it It takes > forever (about 15minutes) to scan the SCSI ID's and identify the > devices available. Is this normal behavior? Next it seems to > lock-up on the final device and never return (ie the system never > boots). Has anyone had similar problems or experiance with this > controller? Yea, something on your scsi chain is not right. Either you have two items witht he same scsi id, or you have a termination problem...that's the only time I've had that kind of behaviour from the DPT. When things are set up properly, then it takes about 10 secs to go through the ID'ing part. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] DPT PM2144UW controller Date: 8 Nov 1997 04:41:03 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <640qgv$gdd$1@excalibur.flash.net> I have a DPT PM2144UW SCSI controller I'm trying to install in place of my exisiting Adaptec 2940. When I install it It takes forever (about 15minutes) to scan the SCSI ID's and identify the devices available. Is this normal behavior? Next it seems to lock-up on the final device and never return (ie the system never boots). Has anyone had similar problems or experiance with this controller? David A. Johnson Northwestern University daj@nwu.edu
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: pictures of NeXT hardware Date: 8 Nov 1997 03:06:28 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <640kvk$3ic$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <63iuae$iqv$1@usenet48.supernews.com> <Pine.GSO.3.95.971107083742.15288C-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nin@goodnet.com In <Pine.GSO.3.95.971107083742.15288C-100000@goodguy> Jay wrote: > > There is a ton of old pictures and advertisements from the original NeXT > Black Hardware. Find it all at www.upt.org. I had no luck finding these... could you be more specific with some URLs? Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] installing large drive and want 2 OpenStep partitions Date: 8 Nov 1997 07:07:33 GMT Organization: IBM Development Lab. Boeblingen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <64133l$lqk$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> References: <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> In article <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu writes: > Now before you jump all over me, I've already searched NeXTAnswers to the best of my ability. It appears their search tool doesn't turn anything up with the query's I've tried. .. > I understand that OpenStep/Mach can't deal with partitions greater than 2Gb, thus the reason why I want 2 2GB partitions. How can I parition it and format the 2 2GB partitions for OpenStep with one as the root (if it matters). Interesting stuff. Is OpenStep able to have two partitions on one disk? NeXT-Step isn't. Henry
From: Rene Berber <r.berber@computer.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Configuration for Hayes ESP? Date: 8 Nov 1997 06:55:34 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <6412d6$4gm$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I'm trying to configure the Hayes ESP card on NeXTStep 3.3p1/Intel with no success so far. Anyone knows how it should be configured? I have tried installing the HayesESP driver version 0.2 (from peanuts) which uses MuxDriver (no version specified on readme.) The result is: - MuxDriver version 1.5 doesn't recognize the ESP card. I tried several port addresses and IRQs, also disabling the on-board serial ports. - Even if MuxDriver were to recognize the card, how do you configure the HayesESP driver if both drivers need (apparently) to share the port address? This is not allowed by the driver kit. I have also tried a different approach using the SerialPortDriver version 3.33 from NeXT. You can force it to accept the card adding "Chip Type" to the Instance table, but using the port created just freezes the machine. Any help would be appreciated. ---- Rene Berber r.berber@computer.org
From: gregor@crosslink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Will a mac external SCSI drive work on my slab ? Date: 4 Nov 1997 21:43:21 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <63o4tp$qmo$1@kronos.crosslink.net> References: <3458E69B.424F@why.net> <EIys5J.5xB@nidat.sub.org> <63gb2l$k4i$2@ocean.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <63gb2l$k4i$2@ocean.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article <EIys5J.5xB@nidat.sub.org>, > Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > > To my knowledge, Apple > >still formats its drives to 2k sector size. NeXT only supports 1k and > >1/2k sectors. > > Apple formats its drives to 512-byte sectors. > > > Ken > I've found that you do NOT have to reformat the disk. You can simply initialize the disk with the Workspace-Disk-Initialize-NeXT Filesystem. The low level factory formatting is not disturbed by this procedure. In fact, most NeXt utilities that low level format are relatively dumb, and you can hose the drive if you don't know what you're doing. You can also do it by command line as disk -i /dev/rsd1a (if thiis is the second scsi disk attached to the machine) Regards Greg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Can ST52160N do 1024 bytes per sector? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EIxEow.2qM@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 17:17:19 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I'm getting one of these shortly and am wondering whether people have made it do 1024-byte sectors? I suppose I could ask Seagate but the NeXT community is way more friendly. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: 5 Nov 1997 08:34:26 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <63pb2i$1gu$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> <63mldu$3cp$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <345F51D9.EC47A841@inln.cnrs.fr> Marc Monticelli <monticel@inln.cnrs.fr> wrote: > Are you sure ? Have you try it. It doesn't work at our lab. NeXT also > had say it doesn't work. But if you can, explain me how. NeXT should know better. Whom did you ask? Of course it works, and one poster even confirmed it works between Rhapsody and NT, too. Try the following: 1) Set up an .rhosts file on the NeXT machine that includes the NT station (see "man rcmd" for more information). 2) open a command line window on the NT machine (OpenStep Enterprise 4.2 must be installed) and enter, for example rsh nexthost /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -NXHost nthost where "nexthost" is the name of the NeXT machine, and "nthost" is the name of the NT machine. You might have to specify the "-l username" option additionally, if you use different user names on NT and on OpenStep. After some seconds, the NeXT Terminal application should appear on screen, including NeXT menu and workspace icon. This should work with any NXHost-aware application on any NEXTSTEP or OpenStep platform. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT on Ethernet Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:01:04 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg167627.thr-628ce1dd.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <63q5kq$s1q@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg167627.thr-628ce1dd.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> mrf142@psu.edu,UseNet writes: >I am new to NeXT and consider purchasing one. Obviously, NeXT machines >are designed for networking. Do NeXT machines have built in Ethernet >controllers, etc, that would allow me to easily establish a TCP/IP >connection over 10 Base T? Thank you black hardware has both 10BaseT and coax connectors and will autodetect at power on which connector is hot. -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600 Organization: MediaOne -=- Central Region Message-ID: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with 160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting something like this... Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? ok boot cdrom (press -v for verbose output) (prompt for language) (type 1 to prepare to install) ---> 1 Loading OPENSTEP Loading mach_kernel Reading OPENSTEP configuration Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver Loading binary for SunLE device driver Loading binary for SCSAController device driver Starting OPENSTEP NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC physical memory = 160.00 megabytes using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b Ethernet address = blah espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) Memory access exception (1,1,1e) Waiting for remote debugger connection Thanks! Any help appreciated. dan at recycled dot net
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help booting turbocolor station Date: 8 Nov 1997 09:33:21 GMT Message-ID: <19971108093301.EAA14846@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Im having problems with my slab the rom monitor gives the following message Load of /etc/mach_init,errno 2 ,trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 have i managed to kill my new toy in only 3 days of owning it? the last application i used was user manager and i remember deleting a group but it didnt seem too important is this what has caused this?Can it be fixed easily? I want to thank all of you who reply in advance
From: pit@SPAM.ME!iohk.com (taiQ) Organization: Urban Primates Inc. @IOHK.COM Message-ID: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eKcsGDdYtIdz@iohk.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VIA chipsets and busmastering References: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> <34638379.41C6@uiuc.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 8 Nov 97 13:42:07 GMT On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 21:09:13, Brent Clothier <bclothie@uiuc.edu> wrote: > I would think that the VIA chipsets should work just fine with NS 3.x, > OS 4.x, or Rhapsody. While these chipsets are obviously designed with > Windows platforms in mind, none (that I know of) have required special > drivers to operate under Microsoft's operating systems. My conclusion > is that underlying logic differences are completely transparent to the > operating system, ie. they are compatible with Intel's VX, HX, and TX > Pentium chipsets. All optimizations are done internally. I was, and still am, curious whether VIA has released or plans to release drivers for their chipsets that enable busmastering. I currently run OS/2 on my PC and AFAIK the in-the-box OS/2 drivers only support busmastering with the Intel chipsets while VIA has released beta drivers for OS/2 that enable busmastering for their chipsets. > Speaking of optimizations, benchmarks run under Windows 95 and Windows > NT have shown motherboards with the VIA VP2 chipset to be the fastest > Windows based Pentium boards (ie. FIC PA-2007 with 512K cache). For the > latest information of this kind go to Tom's Hardware Guide. This > Website is the most respected Intel-based component benchmarking site on > the Internet: > > http://www.tomshardware.com/ Thanks - if it's the same as the sysdoc.pair.com site I've found it rather Windows centric but useful nevertheless. > To answer your question about IDE bus mastering, the VIA VP2 chipset has > been tweaked to be a bit faster than Intel's TX chipset. I doubt, > though, that within resolution of the benchmarks and manufacturing > tolerances, that this is relevant. Micron uses the Southbridge PCI > chip from the VIA VP2 chipset to augment its Samurai chipset (which it > is selling in its latest systems). > > I purchased an FIC PA-2007 motherboard and it runs extremely fast. It > is paired with the fastest EIDE drive on the market (IBM 6.4GB Deskstar > 5) and so I am getting blazing hard drive performance. Unfortunately I > am not yet running NS 3.x or OS 4.x so I cannot comment on that issue. > I am saving up so I can buy the media so maybe in a couple months I can > post a response if anyone is still interested. Please do, information about optimizing hardware for Rhapsody should be in everyone's interest. I'm sure the performance of good hardware like yours is bound to be adequate (like Rolls Royce's), but busmastering AFAIK mainly helps in reducing CPU involvement in data transfers rather than speeding it up. > Lastly, about the VP3 chipset, Tom's Hardware Guide tested the first > board (FIC PA-2012) with this chipset and showed that it still needs > more optimizing. It is not as fast as the VP2 boards and requires a > special driver to enable AGP under Windows. Since NS 3.x and OS 4.x do > not utilize AGP my suggestion would be to stay away from this chipset > and use the VP2 only. I better look up that test. Here in Hong Kong new MegaStar VP3 boards with AGP (MS-AI5VG) are advertised (available soon) for US$160 while LEO (FIC?) PA-2007 w/ 1MB cache goes for around $150. What if AGP will get good support under Rhapsody Premiere or Unified - having the slot sitting there would be like an upgrade insurance. > I have been rather doubtful about the need for > AGP anyway. Sounds more like excellent Intel marketing than > engineering. Many of the PCI video cards have efficient > accelerator/memory buses on them anyway. This shows up in the > benchmarking. So far PCI versions have beat out their AGP equivalents, > although only by slight margins. A number of cards store fast and large > caches of video memory on them (like the 16MB Matrox Millenium II) and > this trend is likely to continue. I expect 4MB to suffice for my use for some time to come. --=A0 taiQ in hkg *pit at iohk*
From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: pictures of NeXT hardware Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 07:48:05 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <641u38$gkg$1@news.xmission.com> References: <63iuae$iqv$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tda@isomedia.com wrote: > > im looking for pictures of NeXT machines.. cubes.. slabs.. i dont care > anything : ) I've just posted a couple of pictures on my own page at: http://www.xmission.com/~trevin/pf_computer.html That page just shows the monitors and motherboard. I also have a (partial) picture of my cube stashed in: http://www.xmission.com/~trevin/images/NeXTCube.jpg Og course, these are not professional photos! Just a couple of shots I took myself to use up a roll of film... -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to run FSCK on a SyQuest drive Date: 10 Nov 1997 02:43:30 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <645sci$i6g@cocoa.brown.edu> I made a SyQuest removalble hard disk bootable but it is dammagaed and I can not boot from it. My internal hard drive is fine. My SyQest drive is at target 2 How do I run FSCK manualy? Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Clay Holden <cholden@netcom.com> Subject: Re: HP 6MP Message-ID: <choldenEJEuKn.Fv0@netcom.com> Sender: cholden@netcom19.netcom.com Organization: The John Dee Publication Project References: <345EFFA5.AB3FA06E@inln.cnrs.fr> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 03:19:34 GMT Marc Monticelli <monticel@inln.cnrs.fr> wrote: : Does someone know if OpenStep can drive a HP 6MP printer ? : Can we use a the 5MP driver ? : Thanks I'm using an HP LaserJet 6MP on two NeXTStations under NeXTSTEP 3.2 through an Intel NetportExpress ethernet connection along with two Macs, so I can't imagine any reason why OpenStep wouldn't work as well. I'm using the 6MP driver, but there is no reason why you can't use the 5MP driver. I just changed the driver on my Mac from Mac to Unix line endings in BBEdit, changed spaces to underscores in its name, added ".ppd" to the end of the file and installed it. Works great. Hope this helps. Best wishes, Clay
From: kris@satcom.planetary.net (Kristopher Magnusson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTprinter rollers Date: 10 Nov 1997 03:57:10 GMT Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <6460mm$enk$1@news.xmission.com> My printer needs a new roller. (Yes, I have already tried the "turn-it-inside-out" trick, and it didn't work.) On TjL's laser printer FAQ, someone discussed getting a replacement roller assembly, but that it was too much money. My friend is an Apple-authorized service tech, and he is willing to fix my printer if I can find the roller assembly. (We already tried some HP and Canon rollers. They didn't work.) So . . . does anyone know who manufactures the roller assembly, and what is its part number? TIA, ................kris
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Attaching External Hard Disk Drive Date: 8 Nov 1997 17:07:09 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <64267t$p01$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <625jf2$m6f@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <19971016211400.RAA12154@ladder02.news.aol.com> <jbf-1710970942420001@frazer.com> <Pine.GSO.3.96.971107170304.6705A-100000@elaine30.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: rmj@leland.Stanford.EDU In <Pine.GSO.3.96.971107170304.6705A-100000@elaine30.Stanford.EDU> "Roger M. Jones" wrote: > I need to attach a 9 GB external hard drive to my NeXT. (I already have > an external 1GB which was formatted automatically by the NeXT when I > attached it). How can I format & partition my 9 GB drive? > When my machine boots up & I login it tries to initialise but it fails. > Any help would be much appreciated. > NeXTSTEP can't handle Disks over 2GB "as is". You have to partition it into partitions <2GB. You have to write an entry in /etc/disktab to do this. There are NeXTanswers for that, 1533_Initializing_and_Partitioning_Big_Disks and there should be more about it in the sysadmin docs. and some other infos, try to get back to http://www.dejanews.com and search this newsgroup for old posts. As far as I can remember, some 9GB-people have been here before. This will get you started If there's more trouble, I'll try to help. So long, and good luck Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Gray) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson inkjet for {NeXT,Open}Step Date: 8 Nov 1997 18:31:20 GMT Organization: Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <642b5o$fms@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> We're interested in getting a good (but relatively inexpensive) color printing solution for our network of NextStep 3.2, 3,3 and Openstep 4.1 machines. Our NeXT color printer just isn't as good as the newer printers from Epson, etc. Last year we bought a cheap Epson, but could never get decent printing with either ExtraPrint or Dots. The margins were wrong and sometimes we'd just get garbage printed out. We use the ExtraPrint driver for our NeXT color printer and it does a very nice job there. Do any of you have a color printing solution you're happy with? Has anyone tried the EPSON Stylus COLOR 1520 with Ethernet/EtherTalk Interface Card and Adobe PostScript Level 2? I see they sell Stylus RIPs for PC and Mac; does that mean we still would need a 3rd party RIP for our Nextstep machines? Thanks in advance for any advice, rick -- Rick Gray, Ph.D., Division of Neuroscience, Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx 77030 | rick@mft.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu | NeXTMail accepted
From: Brent Clothier <bclothie@nospam.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VIA chipsets and busmastering Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 13:43:40 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <3464C0EC.3377@nospam.uiuc.edu> References: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> <34638379.41C6@uiuc.edu> <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eKcsGDdYtIdz@iohk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit taiQ wrote: > I was, and still am, curious whether VIA has released or plans to > release drivers for their chipsets that enable busmastering. I > currently run OS/2 on my PC and AFAIK the in-the-box OS/2 drivers only > support busmastering with the Intel chipsets while VIA has released > beta drivers for OS/2 that enable busmastering for their chipsets. For this information you could go to their website and send and e-mail to their sales engineers. I am not familiar with an versions of OS/2 warp but can comment on busmastering drivers for Windows. Under Windows 95 and NT, Microsoft supplies the busmastering drivers. These drivers are heavily optimized so I wouldn't be particularly worried about performance. Intel released busmastering drivers for its TX chipset but subsequent testing under ZDNet's (PC Magazine, PC Week, etc.) benchmarks showed that these drivers artificially inflated results. When approached about this, Intel admitted that the driver's did in fact inflate results that had no bearing on real world performance. > Thanks - if it's the same as the sysdoc.pair.com site I've found it > rather Windows centric but useful nevertheless. Yes it is. Tom recently re-did his site and renamed its URL from www.sysdoc.pair.com to www.tomshardware.com. Most Intel benchmarking you will find is completely Windows centric. I have yet to find a site that benchmarks Intel hardware using NS 3.x or OS 4.x. There just are not any universally agreed upon benchmarking suites for this operating system, regardless of hardware platform. I have seen some benchmarking attempts on Spherical Solution's website and also on some independent, "one-man" sites. But each author uses different algorithms/applications so comparison is difficult. Also, the relevance of each test and its results have really not been debated by the NS/OS community at large. Compare this to the almost universally accepted ZDNet Benchmarking Operations for Windows. They have an entire staff of engineers dedicated to ensure these benchmarks are accurate, and more importantly, catch manufacturers that exploit algorithm loopholes to inflate their product's performance. The bottom line is, when looking for fast NS/OS Intel hardware, your best bet is to look for the fastest Windows hardware. You can be certain that if a hardware component(s) aren't stable or perform lousy under Windows OS that they won't be any better under NS 3.x or OS 4.x. Intel hardware is designed from the get-go for the Windows OS environment, so if a company can't get that right, why consider them for anything else? > Please do, information about optimizing hardware for Rhapsody should > be in everyone's interest. I'm sure the performance of good hardware > like yours is bound to be adequate (like Rolls Royce's), but > busmastering AFAIK mainly helps in reducing CPU involvement in data > transfers rather than speeding it up. If you are really concerned about reducing CPU involvement, my suggestion then would be to go with SCSI. Purchasing a DPT 2044UW or 2144UW might be an excellent choice. Most NS/OS Intel workstations I have seen use SCSI, and in particular, DPT's products (Mylex is also excellent). SCSI is much better suited for true multitasking environments like Unix-based NS 3.x and OS 4.x than EIDE. You may be able to find a well-optimized driver for EIDE but CPU utilization under EIDE can be much greater than that of SCSI. SCSI contains extra electronics just for routing data across the cabling. That is one of the reasons why it is more expensive. (Another reason is, in my opinion, vendor greed). Just because EIDE is bus mastered does not eliminate CPU involvement. To learn more go to Tom's Hardware Guide and read about EIDE and SCSI differences. You could also visit SCSI vendors' websites and read their white papers (Adaptec, for example, has good SCSI info). By the way, DPT designs custom in-house NEXTSTEP drivers for its product line. > I better look up that test. Here in Hong Kong new MegaStar VP3 boards > with AGP (MS-AI5VG) are advertised (available soon) for US$160 while > LEO (FIC?) PA-2007 w/ 1MB cache goes for around $150. What if AGP will > get good support under Rhapsody Premiere or Unified - having the slot > sitting there would be like an upgrade insurance. I wouldn't worry about it. The extra expense of purchasing an AGP enabled board isn't worth it (unless you are getting a Pentium II. The 440LX chipset allows for faster SDRAM memory). In one sense, the AGP slot is little more than a 64-bit PCI slot with enhanced system memory access. A normal PCI video card with a nice, large on-board memory will run rings around an AGP card. As an example, take the card in the system I purchased: the Diamond Viper V330. Although it has only 4MB of SGRAM, the acclerator-memory bus runs at 100MHz and is 128 bits wide. That is much faster that today's system memory bus that runs under the 440LX at 66 MHz with 64 bit access. As the frame buffer size increases both in overall size and clock speed, you will see cards with 16MB (like the Matrox Millenium II - although not even close to the performance of the Viper) with 133 MHz speeds. Larger frame buffers eliminate the need for AGP since all 3D texturing can be stored directly on the card. The card, also, does not have to compete with the CPU for main memory access. with the money you save, you can probably invest in a SCSI I/O subsystem, which in my opinion, will serve you much better. When you finally do upgrade at some future point, you will have much more significant reasons for doing so (ie. faster CPU, memory, etc.) Pricing on your boards seems a bit more expensive than here in the States. I can get the 1MB FIC PA-2007 for US$99. I recently heard that the AOpen AP5T - Rev 3 (or AX5T - Rev 3 for ATX form factor) had dethroned the PA-2007 as the fastest board. This was my second choice board when I purchased the PA-2007. I guess AOpen tweaked its BIOS code a bit more and came out the winner. Incidently, the AOpen uses the Intel TX chipset so you will have the bus master drivers you wanted. One thing about the TX chipset is that it can only cache main memory up to 64MB so if this is a major problem stick with the Via board. If you get the PA-2007, though, the 512K cache versions are a bit faster than the 1MB versions. This is because the PBSRAM can be set at 2-1-1-1 for 512K whereas the 1024K can only be set at 3-1-1-1. So unless you plan on getting over 256MB of main memory, get the 512K version. Only at this point will the larger L2 cache be an advantage. Brent
From: Ninuko <wjjeon@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS running on K6 CPU of AMD? Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 15:33:50 -0800 Organization: Samsung Electronics Message-ID: <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is NeXT STEP available on K6 CPU of AMD? How about applications?
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: USR Sportster 28.8 External Date: 9 Nov 1997 20:53:50 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6457su$r08$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <643etk$6tr$1@usenet48.supernews.com> <644q2o$vm@nntp02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <644q2o$vm@nntp02.primenet.com> Robert Worne wrote: > For what it's worth, Mac modem cables-- although they will fit, they are > not wired up correctly and will not work at all. If you don't want to make > your own cable, there are at least one NeXT vendor (Blackhole?) who sells > premade cables. Spherical Solutions: http://www.orb.com/Access.html Deepspace Tech: http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS running on K6 CPU of AMD? Date: 10 Nov 1997 07:01:42 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <646bgm$605$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: wjjeon@telecom.samsung.co.kr In <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Ninuko wrote: > Is NeXT STEP available on K6 CPU of AMD? > How about applications? It should work with AMD. Cyrix has a problem with multi-threading, and does not work right. AMD is apparently a better idea, since the regular Pentium has recently been found to have a nice bug that will let anyone compile on your machine a program which will freeze it entirely! TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to run FSCK on a SyQuest drive Date: 10 Nov 1997 07:12:35 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <646c53$605$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <645sci$i6g@cocoa.brown.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: andrew@cfm.brown.edu In <645sci$i6g@cocoa.brown.edu> Andrew Jones wrote: > I made a SyQuest removalble hard disk bootable > but it is dammagaed and I can not boot from it. > My internal hard drive is fine. > My SyQest drive is at target 2 > How do I run FSCK manualy? If it is /dev/rsd2a (which is what I think you were saying), then you would do: fsck /dev/rsd2a (normally fsck -p which would skip it if it was clean, but it seems you already know it isn't) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Horst_Lehner@bb.maus.de (Horst Lehner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <199711081751.a3075@bb.maus.de> Organization: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?MAUS_B=94blingen_(+49-7031-714550)?= Subject: HP-Workstation - jetzt billiger Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 17:51:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ich habe hier die folgende Workstation zuviel, die ideal als Hochleistungs-Grafikworkstation oder auch als stabiler Server einsetzbar ist: *HP 9000 Serie 735/125* Dieses System war vor dem Erscheinen der C-Serie vor knapp einem Jahr das Topmodell der HP-Workstations. Hardware: - 64-Bit-PA-RISC-Prozessor mit 125 MHz Takt und 512k Cache (separater High-Speed-Cache-Bus!) - 80MB RAM (kann aufgerüstet werden, es sind noch genug Slots frei) - 2 x 2 GB Fast-Wide-Differential-SCSI-Festplatte intern eingebaut - Sowohl SCSI-2- als auch Fast-Wide-Differential-SCSI Bus herausgeführt - Thin-Lan-Netzwerkanschluß (10 MBit/s, auf 10-Base-T umrüstbar) - 1 x Parallel- und 2 x RS232-Schnittstelle - Audio-Ein- und Ausgänge (Stereo) über 3.5mm-Klinke, getrennt für Line- und Mic- bzw. Phones-Level - Ein EISA-Slot - Auf Wunsch internes Diskettenlaufwerk - Auf Wunsch externes CDROM-Laufwerk - 24-Bit-Grafikkarte mit Z-Buffer für höchste Grafikperformance 1280 x 1024 Pixels bei 72 Hz Bildwiederholfrequenz - 20-Zoll Festfrequenzmonitor (gegen Aufpreis 21-Zoll-Multisync- Monitor mit Trinitron-Röhre möglich) - Hochwertiges, langes BNC-Videokabel - Tastatur und Dreitastenmaus mit Kabeln - Owner's Guide Betriebssystem: - HP-UX oder NextStep möglich - Auf Wunsch HP-UX (Version nach Wunsch) vorinstalliert Einzelteile: - 99-MHz-Prozessorkarte - Schnittstellenkarte - Einschub zum Einbau interner SCSI-2-Platten - SCSI-Diskettenlaufwerk mit Einbausatz Preis: alles komplett wie beschrieben VB DM 10000,-- nur an Selbstabholer (Raum Stuttgart)
From: invalid@upt.org (Tom Jackiewicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT on Ethernet Date: 6 Nov 1997 15:18:40 GMT Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <63sn4g$gbg$1@news.goodnet.com> References: <63q5kq$s1q@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> mrf142@psu.edu wrote: : I am new to NeXT and consider purchasing one. Obviously, NeXT machines : are designed for networking. Do NeXT machines have built in Ethernet : controllers, etc, that would allow me to easily establish a TCP/IP : connection over 10 Base T? Thank you Yep. On board 10baseT.. -- Tom Jackiewicz email is delivered to my office, Lead System Engineer bathroom, and house. invalid@good.net [this is from the office]
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: customizing Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 08:15:45 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <646gc9$mck$1@usenet48.supernews.com> what ways can i customize the user enviroment of my NeXT system? like the monitor rez, and the background, anyway to make it something more than jus a solid color? how would i change the back/foreground of my terminal / consol windows? rather black text on white background, id like white text on a black background. etc etc.. any and all help/suggestions would be apprecitated.. thx again.. tdå
From: jason@conceptx.com Subject: Problems installing OpenStep 4.2 on Intel... Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 16:32:17 -0600 Message-ID: <879025050.13567@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Organization: Deja News Posting Service I've done a lot of reading on the subject, and we've been trying to install OpenStep on a number of different PCs here at my office and are getting nowhere. We always get this obscure error message during the install... Something about not having a disk to install on that is a 512 byte/sector disk with 120 megs available. The hard disk _is_ being recognized during the install process, as is the CD-ROM. CD mounts fine as root during the install as well. My system: Pentium 166, dual EIDE controllers on-board, 8x Mitsumi CD-ROM, 1083 meg Western Digital hard drive. HD is set up as Master on the primary EIDE bus, CD-ROM as Slave on primary. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! jason gerry ----------- jason@conceptx.com -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: tyf@whitebox.primenet.com (Tin-Yau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dots works with LaserJet6P Date: 10 Nov 1997 01:51:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <646htk$ofh@nntp02.primenet.com> Hi, A while ago I posted about looking for printer support of LaserJet 6 under NeXTSTEP. I found out that actually Dots' LaserJet 4 driver works very well with the LaserJet 6. I suspect drivers that support the LaserJet 4 will support LaserJet 6. Just to let you know. -- ------------------------------------------------- Tin-Yau Fung, email = tyf@ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu --------------------------------------------------
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: mouse overdrive app? Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 22:10:24 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <645ctb$m2j$1@usenet48.supernews.com> does anyone know of a app for a nextstation colorturbo that makes the mouse move faster??? ive got it set as high as it goes in the pref. but its still to slow.. lemme know.. thx peeps: ) tdå
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] installing large drive and want 2 OpenStep partitions Date: 10 Nov 1997 09:20:22 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <646jkm$h0k$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <6405dd$8t9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <64133l$lqk$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) wrote: > Interesting stuff. Is OpenStep able to have two partitions on one disk? > NeXT-Step isn't. NEXTSTEP and OpenStep always could have two or more partitions on one disk. What you mean is the limitation that you could not generate more than one "area" on the disk for NS/OS on Intel computers. ("Area" here means a partition according to the fdisk partition table on IBM compatibles. NeXT calls this a "DOS partition") To David's question: 1. Use /usr/etc/fdisk /dev/rsd0h to create a 4 GB NEXTSTEP partition (= "DOS compatible area") on the disk. 2. Use disk -i -p xxx /dev/rsda to format the NEXTSTEP area and create two partitions in it. xxx must be replaced by the number of blocks (native device blocksize) you want to have in the first partition. WARNING: An invalid number will crash the mach kernel. You can also leave out the -p option, but then NEXTSTEP will use some heuristics to get an "optimal" partition size... I guess it will create 5 partitions with 890 MB each then. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: mouse overdrive app? Date: 9 Nov 1997 22:36:49 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <645du1$n7a$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <645ctb$m2j$1@usenet48.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tda@isomedia.com In <645ctb$m2j$1@usenet48.supernews.com> tda@isomedia.com wrote: > does anyone know of a app for a nextstation colorturbo that makes the mouse > move faster??? ive got it set as high as it goes in the pref. but its still > to slow.. lemme know.. thx peeps: ) ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/GKMouseScaler.1.1.NI.b.tar.gz TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 10 Nov 1997 02:03:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> Hi, Will NeXTSTEP 3.0 run on 040/25 computers? Thanks, Emmett
From: Brent Clothier <bclothie@nospam.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VIA chipsets and busmastering Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 17:28:33 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <34664721.4956@nospam.uiuc.edu> References: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> <34638379.41C6@uiuc.edu> <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eKcsGDdYtIdz@iohk.com> <3464C0EC.3377@nospam.uiuc.edu> <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-beFSzQ32Ufxd@iohk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Coming from OS/2 I'd say that's the easy part of the job - the next > step is to pan out the great "Windows-only" stuff and look for > companies with good reputation for cross-platform support. You are definitely right. I am not an OS/2 user so you are coming from a different perspective here. Hopefully, you will find a vendor that also provides excellent OS/2 support as well. :-) > My Mac is all-SCSI and I'll need at least external SCSI for the PC as > well, but I also want to move over to the new system my current EIDE > investment. And honestly, busmastered Ultra DMA/33 should compare > reasonably well with everything but the fastest SCSI options, at least > price/performance wise. I'd still want SCSI to overcome EIDE > limitations but it should be okay for 2 HDs - if busmastered... :^) Price/performance is the reason I avoided SCSI for now. But by Feb. the DPT representatives say they will have an Ultra SCSI-2 card out which they will call the SmartCache V. I think I might go that route then (or get a FibreChanel PCI card for the hard drive). The computer I described in my original posting was for my work group. For my personal computer I want nothing but the best - well, the best I can afford. > No thanks - anything from Diamond is X-ed out from my purchase lists > thanks to their wonderful OS/2 support. "Fool me once, shame on you - > fool me twice..." Sorry to hear about your negative OS/2-Diamond experience. The Viper V330 is really a superb card. Unfortunately it has no NS 3.x or OS 4.x drivers yet but I am not looking to install OS 4.x on that particular machine. I will install Openstep 4.2 on my personal machine. Incidentally, I was not implying that this card be your only choice. The Number Nine Revolution 3D is also an excellent card and can be expanded to 16MB of on-board WRAM. It does come with NS 3.x and OS 4.x drivers (see NeXTAnswers). Either way, this board will more than eliminate the need for AGP with its large frame buffer. > Hey, I wanted VIA chipset with busmastering, not Intel... ;-) And > don't the Intel chipsets all have the 64MB cache limitation? Yes, I didn't mention the TX memory limitation in my last posting because my fingers starting cramping up from all that typing. :-) This is a great example of Intel's marketing at work. They figure that, "Hey, let's build in a little performance obsolescence in our next chipset so we can move everyone to the Pentium II." I don't know if or when you plan on upgrading next, but the AOpen board would not be a bad choice unless you: (1) have old memory you wish to place in it and/or (2) you want more than 64MB of total system memory. Otherwise you could invest in a high quality 10 ns 64MB DIMM. The memory module could then be ported in the future to the 100 MHz memory bus promised with the 440BX and 440NX chipsets. The 440BX chipset has been sampling since September and motherboards are expected to arrive with the 440BX chips in Jan/Feb. I am sure Intel will not allow AMD to come out with a 100MHz memory bus (ie. the AMD640 chipset) before they do. Intel isn't investing in any more Pentium chipsets in order to push the market to Pentium II systems. If Via comes out with a 100MHz memory bus chipset, that might be worth investing in. As for now, Via's VP3 with AGP seems unnecessary. I, for one, think that AGP is pointless in Socket 7 (Pentium) motherboards except to increase vendor profits. The current Socket 7 memory bus is too slow for AGP's DIME feature to enhance performance much. Competition between the CPU and video card for bus access won't help either, especially since the CPU must arbitrate transfers to and from the system memory regardless of the process involved. The promised x2 sidebanding (transferring data on the rising and falling edges of the clock) will also be difficult to implement since the memory bus for the Socket 7 was not designed with this in mind (the Via VP3 does not support this). The Slot 1 (Pentium II) architecture, however, can accomodate these features since its bandwidth is adequate when 100MHz is used. At 66 MHz PCI vs. AGP performance is the same unless artificially large 3D textures are forced during benchmarking). So the AOpen board is an excellent choice if (AGP aside) you don't plan on using more than 64MB. If you buy a board now, you will want to replace it anyway when the 100 MHz Socket 7 boards start arriving. You can transfer your CPU and memory then and just pay to replace the board. Should more memory be needed, buy another 64MB DIMM. In the mean time you will have the fastest Socket 7 board available. > And the prices here...HKG _was_ a shopper's paradise and no-name > far-east stuff can still be found cheap here, but motherboards... I > was recently told of an area in Taipei (Taiwan) for good shopping I > haven't had a chance to go there. But if you know any place in Long > Island, NY for great mobo prices do let me know. I am not familiar with too Long Island vendors but if you go to Price Watch (www.pricewatch.com). You might find a dealer there. Best of luck. Brent
From: Steve Eggers <stevee617@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Getting on the Internet Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 22:20:16 -0500 Organization: AT&T Message-ID: <34652BEF.5B573E3F@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Color Slab and I am wanting to get on the internet with it. What software exactly do I need to get on the net and as painless as possible? Thanks in advance, Steve
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <398878446823@digifix.com> Date: 9 Nov 1997 04:46:07 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <11552879051630@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <OXsSZKb78GA.313@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Control: cancel <OXsSZKb78GA.313@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Date: 10 Nov 1997 13:06:25 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.OXsSZKb78GA.313@ntdwwaaw.compuserve.com> Sender: spamfree.usa1@gov.abuse.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Keith Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Parallel port problem Date: 9 Nov 1997 05:39:33 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <643ial$pke$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Keywords: parallel port I have been helping a friend install and configure OpenStep (mach 4.2) on his Intel-Pentium. Everything is working fine except that he is unable to print using the parallel port. The port appears to be configured properly (i.e. IRQ and address are correct and pp0 is registered during bootup) and the printer light flashes when printing is attempted. The puzzling thing is that if I install and boot his harddrive in my box, printing works fine. I know very little about Intel hardware, so I wonder if anyone can suggest what could be causing the conflict in his hardware and what needs to be changed. (N.B. The parallel port works fine when he prints from Windows). Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly apprectiated. Keith Hamel hamel@unixg.ubc.ca
From: "Sean Hafeez" <hafeez.nospam@san.rr.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] Adaptec 2940 != Adaptec 2940 Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 00:01:29 -0800 Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: <643qkr$9j3@prefetch.san.rr.com> References: <63sq5k$4s$1@news.Leiden.NL.net> Try going into the adaptec settings and setting the trasfer rate to 10MB & turning off sync and disconect. That worked for me...for a while. New SCSI HD now and I cannot get the damm thing to work after the intall. It resets the SCSI bus and the panics with a dirve not ready error. Note: When email remove the "nospam" from hafeez.nospam@san.rr.com Jan-Willem de Bruijn wrote in message <63sq5k$4s$1@news.Leiden.NL.net>... > >Recently we tried to install NEXTSTEP 3.3 on a new system that was all SCSI >(hard disk, CD-ROM) with an Adaptec 2940 as the controller. According to >NeXTanswers, 2940's are supported, as well as 2940U, 2940W and 2940UW. >To be on the safe side we used the latest 3.37 driver. > >We failed. Error message: can't get configSpace; ABORTING. > >We fiddled around with the SCSI settings, but to no avail. > >It turned out that it was an 2940AU card (with BIOS 1.30). We tried several >alternatives: a 2940/2940U+ (BIOS 1.21 and 1.23), these also failed (with the >same symptom), and a 2940 (BIOS 1.16), and this one worked. > >Apparently there is more than meets the eye in Adaptec 2940 cards. Does >anyone have similar experiences, and can they tell me which combinations of >card type/BIOS definitely do not work and which ones do? > >Thanks in advance, > >Jan-Willem > >-- >Jan-Willem de Bruijn - F Y G I R logistic information systems > http://www.fygir.com/
From: dicosmo@verveine.ens.fr (Roberto Di Cosmo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep/OpenStep on Ultra Date: 10 Nov 1997 15:23:29 +0100 Organization: ENS Message-ID: <scvhy0keu6.fsf@verveine.ens.fr> Just a quick note to find out whether a Sun Ultra will run NextStep 3.3 or Openstep 4.2 . I could not find the information in NextAnswers :-( -- Roberto Di Cosmo -------------------------------------------------------------- LIENS-DMI E-mail: dicosmo@dmi.ens.fr Ecole Normale Superieure WWW : http://www.ens.fr/~dicosmo 45, Rue d'Ulm Tel : ++33-(0)1-44 32 20 40 75230 Paris CEDEX 05 Fax : ++33-(0)1-44 32 20 80 FRANCE MIME/NextMail accepted --------------------------------------------------------------
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: USR Sportster 28.8 External Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 04:32:43 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <643etk$6tr$1@usenet48.supernews.com> I was wondering.. I have a NeXTStation ColorTurbo, is it possible to hook up my external, usr sportster 288 modem to it? if not.. what modems that are 288 or faster that would work with it.? please email me at tda@isomedia.com thanks : ) tdå
From: Wassim M Jabi <jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: {{{{HELP}}}} Networking NeXT and Mac Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 20:53:55 -0500 Organization: University At Buffalo Message-ID: <34666933.304E@writeme.com> References: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wassim M Jabi wrote: > > Hello: > > I am thinking of moving my NeXTStation Color home > where I have a PowerBook 520 with an Ethernet > port and a Personal LaserWriter NTX that works > on AppleTalk. My question is: > Is there a way to newtork the NeXT, the Mac, > and the LaserWriter? I'd like to be able > to print without the hassle of moving files > on floppies etc. > > Please e-mail me a recipe for this at wj@writeme.com > > Thank you. I have CAPer.app installed, but I am having major problems: On the Mac side: 1. AppleTalk refuses to switch over to Ethernet: An error occured attempting to use Ehternet. Make sure your connections are correct. On the NeXT side: 2. CAPer DOWN (red) button won't turn to UP (Green): RPC not a registered program. Do I need anything more than the Ethernet cable connecting the Mac to the NeXT?? Do I need a router box of some sorts??!!? Please e-mail me your suggestions at: wj@writeme.com Thanks.
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Colour Monitor Repair/Replace Date: 10 Nov 1997 17:24:03 GMT Organization: Cyantic Systems. Distribution: world Message-ID: <647fvj$j7p$1@alexandria.cyantic.com> Keywords: Black Monitor Repair Is anyone still repairing Black Colour Monitors? I have one dead, and one dying and would like to salvage them if possible. I will consider new/used equipment if available. Please reply to: eileen@cyantic.com -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS running on K6 CPU of AMD? Date: 10 Nov 1997 17:43:36 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <647h48$dou$1@pump1.york.ac.uk> References: <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Ninuko <wjjeon@telecom.samsung.co.kr> writes: > Is NeXT STEP available on K6 CPU of AMD? > How about applications? All works beautifully - if you can get a new K6 without the race-condition bug that was found a few weeks ago. On the other hand all out machines have the older chip and don't show any signs of the bug causing problems. -bat.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS running on K6 CPU of AMD? Date: 10 Nov 1997 18:30:55 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <647jsv$4oi$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> <646bgm$605$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > AMD is apparently a better idea, since the regular Pentium has recently been > found to have a nice bug that will let anyone compile on your machine a > program which will freeze it entirely! That's nothing unusual. You could wedge NeXT's black hardware completely (ie, even the NMI three-finger'ed salute won't budge it) via the crashme program, even being run as an unpriviledged user. Apparently, there's some type of coprocessor exception which can occur which isn't handled correctly [or at all, more accurately!], but I forget whether it's a bug with the Mach kernel's trap handlers-- which would be NeXT's fault-- or whether it's a fundamental problem with the Motorola architecture. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: customizing Date: 10 Nov 1997 18:16:54 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <647j2m$4oi$4@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <646gc9$mck$1@usenet48.supernews.com> tda@isomedia.com wrote: > what ways can i customize the user enviroment of my NeXT system? Many ways. Start with Preferences.app (which is the clock icon under the NeXT icon, unless you've changed your dock preferences). > like the monitor rez, Use /NextAdmin/Configure.app. > and the background, anyway to make it something more than jus a solid > color? Try Preferences, or BackSpace. > how would i change the back/foreground of my terminal / consol windows? Terminal.app->Info->Preferences, Colors; or Cmd-8. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting on the Internet Date: 9 Nov 1997 14:14:13 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <644gfl$kan$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <34652BEF.5B573E3F@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: stevee617@worldnet.att.net In <34652BEF.5B573E3F@worldnet.att.net> Steve Eggers wrote: > I have a Color Slab and I am wanting to get on the internet with it. > > What software exactly do I need to get on the net and as painless as > possible? It depends what you want. I guess you need a ppp-dialup connection to an isp. So, you need: ppp-package GateKeeper (very nice frontend for ppp and dialup) OmniWeb Browser Newsreader, for example Radicalnews Then maybe the m4-package for configuring your sendmail properly. There are some special scripts using the package as well, but can't remember its name. All of this readily available on the usual next-ftp-sites So long, good luck Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: {{{{HELP}}}} Networking NeXT and Mac Date: 10 Nov 1997 21:19:41 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <647tpd$5tu$1@news.seicom.net> References: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> <34666933.304E@writeme.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jabi@acsu.buffalo.edu In <34666933.304E@writeme.com> Wassim M Jabi wrote: > On the NeXT side: > 2. CAPer DOWN (red) button won't turn to UP (Green): > RPC not a registered program. Please send me your complete CAPer log showing your startup sequence. Only then I can see where the problem occures... -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net/~frank * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: USR Sportster 28.8 External Date: 9 Nov 1997 09:58:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <644q2o$vm@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <643etk$6tr$1@usenet48.supernews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: tda@isomedia.com In <643etk$6tr$1@usenet48.supernews.com> tda@isomedia.com wrote: > I was wondering.. I have a NeXTStation ColorTurbo, is it possible to hook up > my external, usr sportster 288 modem to it? if not.. what modems that are > 288 or faster that would work with it.? please email me at tda@isomedia.com > thanks : ) I have precisely this modem, and it works great. There's no fax capability for it though. You will need to construct or buy your own cable for it (type 'man zs' in the console window for specs). The Color Turbo should be able to handle serial port speeds of up to 57,600. While some people run their systems at this speed, I find it highly unreliable due to panics and spurious lockups. These became more evident when I tried that speed combined with an X2 modem (or even the same modem running v.34+). So I learned to be content with my system running a 28.8 modem at 38,400. YMMV For what it's worth, Mac modem cables-- although they will fit, they are not wired up correctly and will not work at all. If you don't want to make your own cable, there are at least one NeXT vendor (Blackhole?) who sells premade cables. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ DPT's products (Mylex is also > excellent). SCSI is much better suited for true multitasking > environments like Unix-based NS 3.x and OS 4.x than EIDE. You may be > able to find a well-optimized driver for EIDE but CPU utilization under > EIDE can be much greater than that of SCSI. SCSI contains extra > electronics just for routing data across the cabling. That is one of > the reasons why it is more expensive. (Another reason is, in my > opinion, vendor greed). Just because EIDE is bus mastered does not > eliminate CPU involvement. My Mac is all-SCSI and I'll need at least external SCSI for the PC as well, but I also want to move over to the new system my current EIDE investment. And honestly, busmastered Ultra DMA/33 should compare reasonably well with everything but the fastest SCSI options, at least price/performance wise. I'd still want SCSI to overcome EIDE limitations but it should be okay for 2 HDs - if busmastered... :^) I've heard good things about DPT, NCR stuff is also well supported and is said to take slight overclocking well too, unlike Adaptec. > > I wouldn't worry about it. The extra expense of purchasing an AGP > enabled board isn't worth it (unless you are getting a Pentium II. The > 440LX chipset allows for faster SDRAM memory). In one sense, the AGP > slot is little more than a 64-bit PCI slot with enhanced system memory > access. A normal PCI video card with a nice, large on-board memory will > run rings around an AGP card. As an example, take the card in the > system I purchased: the Diamond Viper V330. No thanks - anything from Diamond is X-ed out from my purchase lists thanks to their wonderful OS/2 support. "Fool me once, shame on you - fool me twice..." > Pricing on your boards seems a bit more expensive than here in the > States. I can get the 1MB FIC PA-2007 for US$99. I recently heard that > the AOpen AP5T - Rev 3 (or AX5T - Rev 3 for ATX form factor) had > dethroned the PA-2007 as the fastest board. This was my second choice > board when I purchased the PA-2007. I guess AOpen tweaked its BIOS code > a bit more and came out the winner. Incidently, the AOpen uses the > Intel TX chipset so you will have the bus master drivers you wanted. Hey, I wanted VIA chipset with busmastering, not Intel... ;-) And don't the Intel chipsets all have the 64MB cache limitation? And the prices here...HKG _was_ a shopper's paradise and no-name far-east stuff can still be found cheap here, but motherboards... I was recently told of an area in Taipei (Taiwan) for good shopping I haven't had a chance to go there. But if you know any place in Long Island, NY for great mobo prices do let me know. Brgds, --=A0 taiQ in hkg *pit at iohk*
From: <ted.allen.nospam@theory1.physics.wisc.edu> Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel Parallel port problem Date: 9 Nov 1997 17:45:17 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <644srd$74u$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <643ial$pke$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> hamel@unixg.ubc.ca (Keith Hamel) wrote: > I have been helping a friend install and configure OpenStep (mach 4.2) on > his Intel-Pentium. Everything is working fine except that he is unable to > print using the parallel port. The port appears to be configured properly > (i.e. IRQ and address are correct and pp0 is registered during bootup) and > the printer light flashes when printing is attempted. The puzzling thing > is that if I install and boot his harddrive in my box, printing works > fine. I know very little about Intel hardware, so I wonder if anyone can > suggest what could be causing the conflict in his hardware and what needs > to be changed. > > (N.B. The parallel port works fine when he prints from Windows). > > Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly apprectiated. > > > Keith Hamel > hamel@unixg.ubc.ca Try setting the parallel port to different configurations in BIOS. I tried the EPP v. 1.9 setting on my SuperMicro motherboard and then I could get printing to work. (My problem was that pp0 didn't get registered at bootup so this may not apply to you. It seems that the National Semiconductor I/O chip is sometimes a problem for NEXTSTEP.) If this is not the problem, try the freeware Par.config on the archives. It seems to be a bit more robust at printing than NeXT's parallelport driver. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison Ted.Allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT on Ethernet Message-ID: <EJDzB8.I0B@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <63q5kq$s1q@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 16:04:19 GMT In article <63q5kq$s1q@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> mrf142@psu.edu writes: > I am new to NeXT and consider purchasing one. Obviously, NeXT machines > are designed for networking. Do NeXT machines have built in Ethernet > controllers, etc, that would allow me to easily establish a TCP/IP > connection over 10 Base T? Thank you > You have a choice of 10base2 or 10baseT. It just depends which one is connected at power up. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: Monitor suitable for NextStation Colour & Indigo R3k Date: 10 Nov 1997 23:00:18 GMT Organization: E-Gate Communications (odin.egate.net), Toronto, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <6483m2$a1e@odin.egate.net> I have recently purchased a SGI Indigo R3000 with LG1 (entry) graphics, however I find that it does not work with my NextStation Colour monitor (17" Fimi). As a result, I find myself seeking a 17" (preferably black) monitor which will work with both, and has 13W3 connectors or BNC (since I have a 13W3->BNC converter). Any ideas? Price is a factor - plus I will have to get rid of a perfectly good Fimi monitor at some point as well! Matt
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting on the Internet Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 05:11:20 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <648q01$p2o$1@usenet11.supernews.com> References: <34652BEF.5B573E3F@worldnet.att.net> <644gfl$kan$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> In article <644gfl$kan$1@news.rwth-aachen.de>, Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de wrote: >Then maybe the m4-package for configuring your sendmail properly. >There are some special scripts using the package as well, but can't remember >its name. >All of this readily available on the usual next-ftp-sites can you list these ftp sites please? : ) thx.. tdå > >So long, good luck >Martin
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sonnet Presto Accelerator Date: 11 Nov 1997 00:13:33 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64943d$2tm@slip.net> Hi, There have been a few threads on the topic of whether or not a Sonnet Presto Accelerator might work in a cube. As far as I can tell no one has actually experimented with one. Does anyone know if such a card might actually fit in the back plane, let alone work? Also, does anyone know what a QuadDoubler is? Thanks, Emmett
From: skippy@vt.edu (Joshua Wirt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: newbie questions.... Date: 11 Nov 1997 08:18:44 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <skippy-1111970317550001@as2511-8.sl004.cns.vt.edu> I'm sorta new at the whole "NeXT thing" and I was considering picking up a used system (I have access to a 17" megapixal). I'm just curious as to what I could due with one. I was thinking of setting up a network in my house and using it as fileserver. What else can I do with it and any suggestions as to what to look out for? Thanks! Joshua Wirt skippy@vt.edu
From: wrb@u.washington.edu (William Barker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dual monitor setup in NS 3.3 Date: 10 Nov 1997 17:57:35 GMT Organization: UW Biological Structure Distribution: world Message-ID: <647huf$1864$1@nntp6.u.washington.edu> I'm looking for success stories setting up a dual monitor system in NS 3.3. Base hardware is a Dell PentiumPro. What graphics card(s) did you use? What NS 3.3 driver? Any gotchas along the way? Any info greatly appreciated. bb
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 10 Nov 1997 12:37:02 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <647r9e$2dj@slip.net> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> >> Will NeXTSTEP 3.0 run on 040/25 computers? > >That's an odd question. NS 3.0 didn't run on anything *except* >NeXT's Motorola-based hardware. > >More explicitly: yes. :-) I thought it might only run on 68030. Emmett
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 11 Nov 1997 20:02:12 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <64adk4$uim$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> wrote: >I believe the question he was asking is if NS 3.0 will run on a >68040-based motherboard as opposed to a 68030. I seem to recall from >one of the NeXTWorld magazines an explanation of why older versions of >NeXTSTEP couldn't run on the new Turbo hardware, but I don't remember >what the version number was or whether that only applied to Turbo >(33MHz) machines rather than all 68040's. I ran NeXTstep 1.0 and 2.1 on a non-Turbo 040 cube once. Haven't tried either on my TurboColor though. - Gareth
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Anyone using RAID on OpenStep/NeXTStep Date: 12 Nov 1997 03:31:19 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <64b7u7$684$1@excalibur.flash.net> Can anyone confirm if the DPT2144UW RAID system works under OpenStep? How are RAID drives managed/setup using OpenStep? I'd like to configure my office server as a OpenStep 4.2 machine using the DPT PM2144UW RAID controller using RAID level 5. What I don't know is how to go about doing it. I've looked through NextAnswers and haven't found much refering to RAID systems and what there is does refer to this controller but none of it spells how how its done. Can anyone cite a good reference Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson Northwestern University please email to: daj@nwu.edu or post replies...
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 11 Nov 1997 20:17:19 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> Hi, I'm considering experimenting with some Sonnet Technologies Products (see www.sonnettech.com/product/default.html) with a 040/25 cube. What MAC, a LC, LC II & Color Classic, Mac SE, Mac II, Mac IIx, SE/30, Mac LLci, or Mac IIsi might be closest to a 68040 cube? Any suggestions on what product at their site might be the best bet? What about QuadDoubler? Thanks, Emmett
From: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 12 Nov 1997 04:49:52 GMT Organization: Steel Driving Software, Chicago Sender: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@isdnjhendry.cmg.fcnbd.com> Message-ID: <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > Hi, > I'm considering experimenting with some Sonnet Technologies > Products (see www.sonnettech.com/product/default.html) > with a 040/25 cube. > What MAC, a LC, LC II & Color Classic, Mac SE, Mac II, > Mac IIx, SE/30, Mac LLci, or Mac IIsi might be closest > to a 68040 cube? Processor-wise, a 25 MHz Quadra or Centris would be the closest. It's highly unlikely that such a thing would work. Spherical solutions (www.orb.com) came up with a custom-designed accelerator for black hardware, but it's rather expensive. It's not clear if one of these would fit into a black machine. At the very least, you'd have to put the Cube motherboard into a different slot, which requires a little surgery on the backplane. A standard-issue Cube's 040 chip heatsink scrapes against the drive/power column in the center. If you move the board to the other side of the column, it might fit. It'd probably be a waste of money, but if you go ahead and it works, *PLEASE* let us all know! - Jon
From: Greg Neagle <gneagle@thegrid.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rhapsody DR on Intel Installation Problems Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 20:58:54 -0800 Organization: Call America Internet Services +1 (800) 563-3271 Message-ID: <3469378B.433C@thegrid.net> References: <3468E0F1.4700@codeweavers.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: duboisj@codeweavers.com Josh DuBois wrote: > > > That aside, I'm trying to install the Rhapsody developer release for > Intel (got it yesterday). I'd like to install with an ATAPI CD-ROM onto > an IDE hard-drive. None of the drives I can find recognize my CD (it > isn't a hardware problem : I've tested it under DOS, and with the > OpenStep 4.2 installation). > > > I'm using a P-90 with dual EIDE controllers on-board. The hard-drive > and CD are both on the same cable - the HD is master & the CD slave. I used the Primary/Secondary (Dual) EISE drivers for both devices. > Things crash as follows : > sd0 : Waiting for device to come ready..... (or something pretty close) > > a couple of screens worth of debugging info fly by. > > I get a complaint of 'Can't mount root device' and am > asked for an alternate (sd%, hd%, en%, etc.) This looks exactly like the problem I had trying to install on an IBM Aptiva which has a MATSHUISHA(sp?) CD-ROM drive. I borrowed a Sony CD-ROM drive from another machine and the install sucessfully completed. After the install, I swapped the drives back and Rhapsody/Intel uses the original (Matsuisha) drive just fine. I guess the installer just didn't like the one CD-ROM drive.
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 11 Nov 1997 22:52:05 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64bjml$efp@slip.net> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> > >Processor-wise, a 25 MHz Quadra or Centris would be the closest. > Great. >It's not clear if one of these would fit into a black machine. > >At the very least, you'd have to put the Cube motherboard into >a different slot, which requires a little surgery on the >backplane. A standard-issue Cube's 040 chip heatsink scrapes >against the drive/power column in the center. If you move >the board to the other side of the column, it might fit. > At www.sonnettech.com/product/quadra/bst.html there's a product called QuadDoubler which appears to work by replacing a Quadra/Centris 68040/25 CPU. No modifications to the motherboard. What do you think? Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 11 Nov 1997 22:57:48 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> In article <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> wrote: > >Processor-wise, a 25 MHz Quadra or Centris would be the closest. > Which Quadra? a Mac IIsi or a Mac IIci? Is the Mac IIsi processor direct slot (PDS) card like a NeXT backplane? Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 11 Nov 1997 23:15:15 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> >Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> wrote: >> >>Processor-wise, a 25 MHz Quadra or Centris would be the closest. >> Opps, I should have asked : Which of these is closest ? Quadra 610, 660AV, 700, 900 Centris 610,650, 660AV Note QuadDoubler plugs into the processor socket. Emmett
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 12 Nov 1997 09:22:05 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64bsft$qdl@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> <64adk4$uim$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> We ran NS3.0 on nonturbo and turbo monochrom and on nonturbo color (all with 040) some years ago. It worked and was faster than NS3.3. greets -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep/OpenStep on Ultra Date: 10 Nov 1997 18:22:55 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <647jdv$4oi$6@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <scvhy0keu6.fsf@verveine.ens.fr> dicosmo@verveine.ens.fr (Roberto Di Cosmo) wrote: > Just a quick note to find out whether a Sun Ultra will > run NextStep 3.3 or Openstep 4.2 . > I could not find the information in NextAnswers :-( Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP only runs on SPARC v8 hardware, not the newer SPARC v9 architecture used by the Hyper- and Ultra-SPARC systems. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
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From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> Message-ID: <Oiia.2$d54.12205@news3.voicenet.com> Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 13:37:50 GMT Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : >Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> wrote: : >> : >>Processor-wise, a 25 MHz Quadra or Centris would be the closest. : >> : Opps, : I should have asked : : Which of these is closest ? : Quadra 610, 660AV, 700, 900 : Centris 610,650, 660AV : Note QuadDoubler plugs into the processor socket. : Emmett Emmett, Be advised, Sam's Pyro accelterator was developed by Sonnet, so I think that Sonnet tried everything. I wouldn;t waste your time or money -Darren
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:31:14 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg170043.thr-cd155436.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> <Oiia.2$d54.12205@news3.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg170043.thr-cd155436.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> dwright1@voicenet.com,UseNet writes: > Be advised, Sam's Pyro accelterator was developed by Sonnet, so >I think that Sonnet tried everything. I wouldn;t waste your time or money I believe that NewerTech was actually the developer of the Pyro. -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
From: Paul Miglio <pmiglio@mcgh.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 3.3 / Intel / fdisk reports no partitions Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:37:45 -0500 Organization: Mount Clemens General Hospital Message-ID: <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: pmiglio Trying to "GHOST" NeXT 3.3 for Intel on IDE Drive. "GHOST" is failing becasue no partitions are defined. Why are no partitions defined? How can I define them. Genuine Intel Advanced/ZP Motherboard with latest BIOS update from intel 1.00.6.CB Western Digital Caviar 2850 (AC2850F) Hard Drive BIOS is set to AUTO. It reports Cyl = 1654, hds = 16, sec = 63 using IDE disk Controller (3.31) universe (/) # fdisk NeXT fdisk v1.02 Device: /dev/rhd0h No partitions in use Unused Blocks Start Size ------------------------------- Free Space 0 813 Fdisk main menu ---------------- 1) Create a new partition 2) Delete a partition 3) Set the active partition 4) Show disk information 5) Quit without saving changes 6) Save changes and quit Enter 1-6: 4 Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 814 Megabytes, 1667232 sectors bios: 813 Megabytes, 1665216 sectors cylinders = 826, heads = 32, sectors/track = 63 universe (/) # cat /usr/adm/messages | grep hc0 Nov 10 16:22:39 universe mach: hc0: device detected at port 0x1f0 irq 14 Nov 10 16:22:39 universe mach: hc0: drive 0, type 1, using geometry from INT table. Nov 10 16:22:39 universe mach: hc0: WARNING: using disk geometry for drive 0. Nov 10 16:22:39 universe mach: hc0: Checking for ATA drive 0... Detected Nov 10 16:22:39 universe mach: hc0: Resetting drives..
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 12 Nov 1997 09:08:59 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <64cnrb$kj8@slip.net> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> <Oiia.2$d54.12205@news3.voicenet.com> > > Be advised, Sam's Pyro accelterator was developed by Sonnet, so >I think that Sonnet tried everything. I wouldn;t waste your time or money > Wrong. Sam's Pyro was developed by Newer Technologies. Emmett
From: <user@msn.com> Subject: NXHost with OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 12:19:07 -0500 Message-ID: <OIjj8N758GA.260@upnetnews03> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Can you NXHost to an NT box running OpenStep Enterprise on Windows NT from a NeXT running OpenStep, thereby running NeXTSTEP apps on NT?
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 / Intel / fdisk reports no partitions Date: 13 Nov 1997 02:06:36 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pmiglio@mcgh.org In <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Paul Miglio wrote: > Trying to "GHOST" NeXT 3.3 for Intel on IDE Drive. "GHOST" is failing > becasue no partitions are defined. Why are no partitions defined? How > can I define them. Because NeXT's lowlevel disk tools suck. I've spent the last 2 days futzing with them TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 13 Nov 1997 02:19:23 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <64do3b$edt@mochi.lava.net> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > Note QuadDoubler plugs into the processor socket. The CPU in many Cubes is not socketed but is soldered directly to the CPU board. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Getting on the Internet Date: 12 Nov 1997 20:22:47 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <64d36n$2gc$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <34652BEF.5B573E3F@worldnet.att.net> <644gfl$kan$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> <648q01$p2o$1@usenet11.supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: tda@isomedia.com In <648q01$p2o$1@usenet11.supernews.com> tda@isomedia.com wrote: > In article <644gfl$kan$1@news.rwth-aachen.de>, > Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de wrote: > >All of this readily available on the usual next-ftp-sites > > can you list these ftp sites please? : ) thx.. Yeah. They're posted quite regularly in one of the next newsgroups: ftp://peanuts.leo.org in Germany, and ftp://ftp.next.peak.org in the states, if I'm not wrong here. But I'll have to look myself... Should be correct, though... Adios Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: Earl Carl Gero <gero@mcs.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Broken NeXT monitor Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 22:32:53 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <34693174.191C9F41@mcs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I was transferring files from my color NeXTstation to another computer, it seemed to be working fine. I left the room for awhile. When I came back, the screen on the monitor was blank and I could smell the faint whiff of smoke. I tried cycling the power. The NeXTstation made all the noises it normally makes when it reboots but the monitor screen remained blank. It sounds to me like something burned out in the monitor. I took it to the repair department of a big chain store, but they have never seen a NeXT before and didn't know if they could fix it. So my question is, is there any place in the Chicago area that knows how to repair a NeXT monitor? Earl Gero
From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 13 Nov 1997 17:22:09 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Message-ID: <64fd01$a91$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: >In article <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, > > Is the Mac IIsi processor direct slot (PDS) card like > a NeXT backplane? No. The NeXT backplane is modified NuBus. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/
From: Ottor@hotmail.comDELETETHIS (Otto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Monitor Technical Info:? Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:24:27 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <64gclm$om6@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Can anyone provide or point me to a resource for technical information on the NeXT 17" Color Monitor (Model N4006)?? I am looking for a pin-out for the output plug. Is it in the manual? Pardon my ignorance, but what other monitors might use this pin-out? Recently I purchased one of these monitors from Deepspacetech (www.deepspacetech.com) and I'm using it on a Power Mac 7300. It works great...they included the necessary 'sync on green' adapter made by Griffin. Thanks. Otto
Message-ID: <345E52E5.E99574B9@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 17:40:37 -0500 From: Ari <AriK7@ibm.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT keyboard on a PC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to know if this is possible, as I just can't get used to the one that came with my PC (and I really liked the NeXT one). Thanks in advance for any tips, Ari Kounavis arik7@NOSPAMibm.net
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From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 13 Nov 1997 18:45:09 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <64fhrl$dh8$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> <64bk1c$eq0@slip.net> <64bl23$gd5@slip.net> In article <64bl23$gd5@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > Note QuadDoubler plugs into the processor socket. QuadDoublers are on a rectangular PCB--twice the length of a CPU--one end plugs into the motherboard socket, the other contains the 50MHz CPU. So, you'll need to make sure pin 1 is at the correct location so it doesn't obstruct internal hardware. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie Memory Question Date: 4 Nov 1997 22:51:23 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <63o8tb$f2m$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <345F79DE.10C3@removeme.emory.org> Curtis Crowson <curtis_crowson@removeme.emory.org> wrote: > I just bought 2 32 Meg 60ns simms. They are working great. The Turbo > Slab had 16 Meg originally. When I originally used the m command in the > monitor. It said that I had > 16 Megs ... > 8 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... > 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... > > I thought this meant that I had 2 empty slots, but when I opened it I > noticed that all 4 slots were full. The memory bus of these machines requires SIMM's to be paired. Furthermore, SIMM's are either single or double-sided. 4 MB SIMM's are single sided, so two 4 MB SIMM's provide 8 MB of RAM in slots 0 & 1, and are described as being in the "front". > I jumped to the conclusion that 2 of > the simms were bad or something like that. I installed the 32 Meg simms > and rebooted. The monitor now said > > 72 Megs ... > 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 front ... > 32 Megs in slots 0 and 1 back ... > 8 Megs in slots 2 and 3 front ... > 0 Megs in slots 2 and 3 back ... > > I still did not understand the message. After I read the message for the > 50th time I finally understood that my memory was Okay 4 MB and 16 MB SIMM's are single-sided. 8 MB and 32 MB SIMM's are double-sided. That's why the two 32's you have register as 32 in front and 32 in back. > After some head scratching I realized that the memory was okay. > > Is my conclusion correct? How do I tell what speed the 2 sets of 8 meg > simms are? Often the chips are labelled. Failing that, your computer will try to recognize what the chips claim to be. > what speed they are via the last few pins > They seem to be different. I am tired of putting my monitor > on the floor and opening up the machine switching the memory arround and > then reconnecting the monitor and then rebooting holding the Command > Command tilde keys. A few last questions. I think one set of the 8 meg > simms is 100ns and one set is 70ns, my 32 Meg Simms are 60ns. The > machine recognizes the 60ns correctly (when I put it in one set of the > banks it says the memory is 60ns). What are the rules about where to put > memory? I don't think it matters for black hardware, although normally as a general rule you put the largest size SIMM's in the first set of slots. > Will the Next change speeds to use the different speed simms? No-- the memory bus will run at the speed of the slowest SIMM's you have. If you have two 4MB 70's and two 100's, use the 70's. > Which Slots should I put the simms in to get the best performance? It shouldn't matter. > How could I test this? Look at the ROM monitor memory config and the verbose boot messages. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:15:43 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> When I first got my NeXTstation Turbo, it was running NeXTSTEP 2.2, so you can at least go back that far. Actually, I'd be interested in getting my hands on earlier versions of the OS. I have a Mac Plus, and it's pretty fun to run system software from the very beginnings on occaision. It'd be cool to see that old Black Hole icon from NeXTSTEP 1.0. Brendan Bolles > Chuck Swiger wrote: > I believe the question he was asking is if NS 3.0 will run on a > 68040-based motherboard as opposed to a 68030. I seem to recall from > one of the NeXTWorld magazines an explanation of why older versions of > NeXTSTEP couldn't run on the new Turbo hardware, but I don't remember > what the version number was or whether that only applied to Turbo > (33MHz) machines rather than all 68040's. > -- > Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, > *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." > *message,*remove*the* --unknown > *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel hardware and Mapped Memory Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:11:29 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971114021008.1872A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have read posts in the past about ``Mapped Memory'' and the problems it causes with over 64meg of RAM. Checking Configure.app -- I don't have anything listed under ``Mapped Memory'' -- is that normal? Will it cause any problems? Thanks for any pointers. TjL, thinking of crossing the 64meg border
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster not seen after mucking with setup Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:21:46 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971114021748.1872C-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I added a SCSI HD to the tower of my Intel This meant getting a new ribbon cable, connecting the ribbon cable to the Adaptec card, then to the NEW HD, then to the HD, and finally to the 2nd HD. Formerly it went from the Adaptec to the CD to what is now the 2nd HD. I assume it is some IRQ/DMA thing, but it makes no sense to me. You can see a screen-shot of the relevant screen from Configure.app at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/configure.html that shows what it looked like when it was running and now when it is not. It says on boot: SoundBlaster: not found at 0x220 None or unsupported card I tried changing the IRQ to #9 and was told 'couldn't reserve 9'. IRQ 7 is set aside for the parallel port which I don't need because I am printing through my old slab. Any help appreciated TjL
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel HD and a new Seagate (long, pls help!) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:14:55 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971114021153.1872B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have recently added a 1gig Seagate Hawk to my machine. This has caused me no end of grief. I don't know what is wrong but the machine is now REALLY unstable (panics, hanging for long periods of time -- up to a minute -- GUI dying and dropping me down to a plain white window).. I get lots of errors (fsck) on the HD if the machine shuts down uncleanly. Duplicate Inodes or something like that. Requires manual fsck'ing. Does this sound like a termination problem? The drive has passed the 'verify media' test (Adaptec 2940). Not one bad block. #1) SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 512 bytes per sector 71 sectors per track 15 tracks per cylinder 1928 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 8 spare sectors per cylinder 45 alternate tracks per volume 2031553 usable sectors on volume #2) SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: SEAGATE ST32171N 0484JE 512 bytes per sector 165 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 5172 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 88 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4223443 usable sectors on volume #3) SCSI information for /dev/rsd2a Drive type: SEAGATE ST31230N 051000 512 bytes per sector 104 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 3992 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 5 spare sectors per cylinder 10 alternate tracks per volume 2069859 usable sectors on volume #4) SCSI information for /dev/rsd3a Drive type: SONY CD-ROM CDU-76S 1.0 #5) SCSI information for /dev/rsd4a Drive type: SyQuest EZ135S 1_13000 Here is what the SCSI chain looks like: Inside Tower (connected by ribbon cable, brand new): Adaptec --> Seagate (#3 above) --> CD-ROM (#4) --> Seagate (#2 above) Tower connects(*) in back to SyQuest Drive (#5) which connects to an external case for the MicroPolis (an Internal drive in an external case, self-terminating) (*) = Tower has a connector like the back of a NeXTStation... I can never remember if it is a DB-25 or Micro-Something.... the other end is a SCSI-1, which connects to the SyQuest, and another SCSI 1 connects to the external case for the Micropolis. PLEASE HELP!! I really want to use this new drive (it was given to me for free) but it seems to have made things really unstable!
From: mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com (Brendan Bolles) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: {{{{HELP}}}} Networking NeXT and Mac Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 02:38:25 -0800 Organization: UC Berkeley Message-ID: <mrb-1411970238260001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> References: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> <34666933.304E@writeme.com> In article <34666933.304E@writeme.com>, wj@writeme.com wrote: > Do I need anything more than the Ethernet cable connecting the Mac > to the NeXT?? Do I need a router box of some sorts??!!? > Please e-mail me your suggestions at: wj@writeme.com > Thanks. You will need more than just an ordinary Ethernet cable. Ethernet wiring isn't as easy as, say, LocalTalk wiring, where you can just use a printer cable between two Macs and they can talk. For Ethernet, in and out ports are wired differently. The best way to hook up these three devices, assuming the Laser Printer has an ethernet port (or at least an AAUI that can take a tranceiver), is to use a Hub. You can buy cheap 5-port hubs for $40 or less, and you get cool flashing lights to boot (useful for seeing if data is traveling over the network). With a hub, you just run a cable from each device to a port on the hub. Another, less desireable option is to get something called a Crossover Cable. This cable allows you to hook to Ethernet devices up directly (in other words, wire one in port directly to another without needing the out port provided by a hub). The disadvantage is that this will only work between two devices, so you'll have to move the cable around for your three devices. Once you have the Mac, the NeXT, and the printer connected, you have to assign them IP addresses. Important here is that they all have to be on the same subnet. This means the first three numbers in the IP addresses for all three have to be the same, with each one given a unique fourth number. With this setup, you can ftp, telnet, etc. from the Mac to the NeXT for transferring files and all the rest. If the laser printer has an Ethernet port, you should be able to get the NeXT to print to it as well as the Mac. Brendan Bolles
Message-ID: <346C48AF.7F04@informatik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:48:44 +0000 From: Alfred Lupper <lupper@informatik.uni-ulm.de> Organization: University of Ulm MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quantum Prodrive on NeXT Cube 040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear NeXT community, I have a NeXT Cube 040 with an old and loud Maxtor SCSI drive. Therefore I tried to connect a Quantum Prodrive with 500MB to the NeXT, I was not able to put it to work. As soon as I connected the drive to the SCSI bus the next did not recognise any SCSI drive. I tried it with several SCSI IDs and with/without terminator. Nothing! Who knows more about conneting SCSI drives to the Next Cube? I have heard that not all drives work with the Cube. Is there a list of "good" drives?? Thanks in advance. Alfred Lupper -- --------------------------------------------------------- http://www-vs.informatik.uni-ulm.de/Mitarbeiter/Lupper/ Dr. Alfred Lupper, Computer Science Department, ------- University of Ulm, D-89069 Ulm, Germany - o - Phone: ++49 (0) 731 502 4139 --- FAX: ++49 (0) 731 502 4142 - Mobile:++49 (0) 171-6136862 mailto:lupper@informatik.uni-ulm.de ---------------------------------------------------
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What CD-ROM will fit Cube faceplate? Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 07:09:03 -0500 Organization: Center for Educational Technology Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg171085.thr-20004e31.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <EJLqwC.IpE@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg171085.thr-20004e31.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu,UseNet writes: >I'm thinking of putting a CD-ROM drive inside a black NeXT cube. >Can anyone tell me what internal drive fits the cube faceplate? >Should I use tray or caddy type? It seems caddy fits the OD open slot well. >Thanks for any info. I have installed a drawer-type CD-ROM inside my cube. I had to mill out one of the optical drive slots to make an opening large enough, but the magnesium is very soft and can be cut with almost any saw blade if you want to do it yourself. Next step is to install a zip drive internally... -- David D. Herren www.cet.middlebury.edu/herren Assoc. Dir. for Tech. & Instruction herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Center for Educational Technology voice: (802)443-5746 Middlebury College, Middlebury, VT 05753 fax: (802)443-2053
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Quantum Prodrive on NeXT Cube 040 Message-ID: <EJn7oG.JwG@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <346C48AF.7F04@informatik.uni-ulm.de> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:43:28 GMT In article <346C48AF.7F04@informatik.uni-ulm.de>, Alfred Lupper <lupper@informatik.uni-ulm.de> wrote: >Dear NeXT community, > >I have a NeXT Cube 040 with an old and loud Maxtor SCSI drive. >Therefore I tried to connect a Quantum Prodrive with 500MB to >the NeXT, I was not able to put it to work. As soon as I connected >the drive to the SCSI bus the next did not recognise any SCSI drive. >I tried it with several SCSI IDs and with/without terminator. Nothing! >Who knows more about conneting SCSI drives to the Next Cube? >I have heard that not all drives work with the Cube. >Is there a list of "good" drives?? > >Thanks in advance. > >Alfred Lupper I think what you are saying is true. I could not build a boot disk out of a rather old IBM 160MB drive. It works perfectly fine as an non-bootable drive, either with OD drive or floppy. The cube just can not boot with this drive. I have no problem with other HDs I've ever used, including a couple Seagates and Conor. Good luck.
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel hardware and Mapped Memory Date: 14 Nov 1997 15:57:55 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <64hse3$iom$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971114021008.1872A-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.971114021008.1872A-100000@kira> On 11/13/97, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > >I have read posts in the past about ``Mapped Memory'' and the problems > it causes with over 64meg of RAM. > >Checking Configure.app -- I don't have anything listed under ``Mapped >Memory'' -- is that normal? Will it cause any problems? Hi Tim: The memory window in question can be found in the Display config panel. The famous 64 MB problem is caused by some drivers putting the display's memory footprint at some address below the 64 MB line (in hex, 64 MB is 4,000,000). It shouldn't matter how much RAM you put in the system, as long as you make sure that the video buffer address is above your RAM area. My ELSA Winner driver uses a default buffer location of 7f,800,000, which leaves room for RAM of over a GB. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
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From: chris@vespucci.advicom.net (Chris Fisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Making turbo color boot headless. Date: 14 Nov 1997 11:53:23 -0600 Organization: interQuest Online Services -- Huntsville, AL Distribution: world Message-ID: <64i36j$50i@vespucci.advicom.net> Will the method used in the FAQ for making older mono stations work fine on the turbo color ones? Does anyone have any more elegant solutions? I'd be willing to pay. chris (who couldn't resist buying 4 colour turbos bases from orb) -- Machines: nippur (next turbo colour 96m) ur (ipc 32m) kish (ipx 32m) Semi-Rabid TDS/South Park Viewer | Current CD: UK NeXTstep/*BSD*/Solaris/SunOS/OSF/Linux/Ultrix/OS2/WinNTi/VSTa/SCO/etc...
From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Making turbo color boot headless. Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:07:32 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California Message-ID: <346C9364.1346@usc.edu> References: <64i36j$50i@vespucci.advicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chris Fisher <chris@vespucci.advicom.net> Chris Fisher wrote: > > Will the method used in the FAQ for making older mono stations work fine > on the turbo color ones? Does anyone have any more elegant solutions? I'd > be willing to pay. > > chris > (who couldn't resist buying 4 colour turbos bases from orb) Heck, it's a whole lot easier with color slabs. All you have to do is leave the sound box and keyboard connected and hit the power key. That's it. (In fact, I don't think you even need the keyboard connected, but then you'll have to find another way to turn it on.) I've got two color slabs sitting under my 21" display (what monster that is...I'm surprised the table can hold it). One is connected to the monitor, the other is headless, and I NXHost apps off the headless one to keep from draining the resources of my main machine. The headless slab drives my scanner, which is a real resource hog. And... it just works! Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: Stacy Marsella <marsella@isi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: disktab entries rotational speed (rm) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:50:44 -0800 Organization: USC Information Sciences Institute Message-ID: <346C8F74.517F@isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: marsella Hi Folks, I need some info.. I had to create a disktab entry for a seagate barracuda 2.1 gig hard drive - for NeXTStep 3.2 running on a NextStation When it came to the rotational speed (rm), instead of using the default 3600 rpm, I entered 7200 rpm which is the speed of the barracuda drive. Now I wonder, did I do the right thing? Presumably the speed entry just impacts the interleave factor but why should i assume that the system handles that info any better than its calculation of partition sizes for disks > 2 gig (which of course is why I had to create a disktab entry in the first place) Any one know the truth about what is done with the rm entries in disktab, under 3.2. Stacy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: echu@ceco.com Subject: Re: Problems installing OPENSTEP 4.2 SPARC Message-ID: <34612e3e.513170880@ceco> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <63qg57$sd5$1@elnws01.mediaone.net> Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 02:41:35 GMT Don't think openstep runs one the 5/170's sorry HTH eric c echu@ceco.com On Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:09:49 -0600, Dan <"dan "@at recycled .dot net> wrote: >I'm trying to install OPENSTEP 4.2 on a SUN SPARCstation 5/170 with >160Mb RAM, 2Gb internal disk, TGX+ graphics card, SunPC 5x86 card, and >SunSwift Combo FastEthernet/WideSCSI card. I have tried both with the >SunPC and SunSwift cards in there and with them removed, and I'm getting >something like this... > >Note that when the aforementioned hardware is removed or present the >Memory access exception address (See below) will differ; this is why I >think it has something to do with it, but where do I go from here? > >ok boot cdrom >(press -v for verbose output) >(prompt for language) >(type 1 to prepare to install) >---> 1 >Loading OPENSTEP >Loading mach_kernel >Reading OPENSTEP configuration >Loading /usr/standalone/sparc/sarld >Loading binary for CG6FrameBuffer device driver >Loading binary for SunLE device driver >Loading binary for SCSAController device driver >Starting OPENSTEP >NeXT MACH 4.2: Wed Apr 16 13:54:38 PDT 1997; >root(rcbuilder):Objects/mk183-84.obj~2/RELEASE_SPARC >physical memory = 160.00 megabytes >using 255 buffers containing 1.99 megabytes of memory >available memory = 152.83 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = 4c6b >Ethernet address = blah >espdma0 at space 0 0x78400000 >esp0 at space 0 0x78800000 pri 4 (onboard) >ledma0 at space 0 0x78400010 >zs0 at space 0 0x71100000 pri 12 (onboard) >zs1 at space 0 0x71000000 pri 12 (onboard) >Memory access exception (1,1,1e) >Waiting for remote debugger connection > >Thanks! >Any help appreciated. >dan at recycled dot net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Making turbo color boot headless. Message-ID: <EJnJ38.HGx@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <64i36j$50i@vespucci.advicom.net> <346C9364.1346@usc.edu> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 19:49:55 GMT In article <346C9364.1346@usc.edu>, Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> wrote: >Chris Fisher wrote: >> >> Will the method used in the FAQ for making older mono stations work fine >> on the turbo color ones? Does anyone have any more elegant solutions? I'd >> be willing to pay. >> >> chris >> (who couldn't resist buying 4 colour turbos bases from orb) > >Heck, it's a whole lot easier with color slabs. All you have to do is >leave the sound box and keyboard connected and hit the power key. That's >it. (In fact, I don't think you even need the keyboard connected, but >then you'll have to find another way to turn it on.) > >I've got two color slabs sitting under my 21" display (what monster that >is...I'm surprised the table can hold it). One is connected to the >monitor, the other is headless, and I NXHost apps off the headless one >to keep from draining the resources of my main machine. The headless >slab drives my scanner, which is a real resource hog. And... it just >works! > >Tom >---------- >Thomas McCarthy >tom@sumoweb.com I think after you turn on the slab with kbd and sound box, you can remove them and keep the slab running headlessly.
From: lph@sei.cmu.edu (Larry Howard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hawk 2.1Mb HDD noise-level? Date: 14 Nov 1997 20:31:17 GMT Organization: Software Engineering Institute Distribution: world Message-ID: <64icel$30u@news.sei.cmu.edu> I know that folks have happily applied these drives inside slabs, and I'm considering doing likewise for a slab to be used in a home midi studio. Since Seagate omitted acoustical information from their ST12400N specs, I'm wondering if some kind soul might provide some subjective, perhaps comparative, information about the noise level. Thanks. -- Larry Howard Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon University lph@sei.cmu.edu (NeXTmail/MIME) (412) 268-6397
From: "Fred H Biebesheimer" <gunslngr@televar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP, Stupid cube question from new owner Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 18:18:00 -0800 Message-ID: <346d0543.0@bartlett> Hi all, I recently acquired a 040 cube with OPENSTEP 4.2 installed. On power up the system seems to be doing okay, until: od0 at odc0 slave 0 od1 at odc0 slave 1 drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 then I get a panic panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q I suppose this is pretty stupid, but I've been away quite a while. How should I proceed? I appreciate any help, Thanks! Fred Biebesheimer gunslngr@televar.com
From: mmalcolm crawford <malcolm@plsys.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: [Q] Adaptec 2940 != Adaptec 2940 Date: 11 Nov 1997 18:05:33 GMT Organization: P&L Systems Message-ID: <64a6pd$qnd$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> References: <63sq5k$4s$1@news.Leiden.NL.net> <7D1B2F83FDA24363.9ECBD238241BCB8F.2E680F1858C3BB55@library-proxy.airnews.net> In-Reply-To: <7D1B2F83FDA24363.9ECBD238241BCB8F.2E680F1858C3BB55@library-proxy.airnews.net> On 11/07/97, Michael wrote: >Go to http://www.dejanews.com/ and search for nextstep and 2940. You should >get the answer there. I'm using one (2940AU) in my Mach 4.2 box and have >used it with Mach 3.3. > You might do better looking for 2940AU, nextstep and adaptec... :-) Best wishes, mmalc. Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Date: 1997/03/18 Message-ID: <5gn1sn$nso@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin On 03/13/97, MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much > to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a > workaround for this? > Yes, I got my machine working thanks to a useful pointer from Paul Lynch... The Adaptec2940AU is not officially supported by the current NEXTSTEP drivers: the driver information table, however, includes the "Auto Detect IDs" for the PCI devices. The ID for the AU is missing: I simply added 0x61789004 to the list and it seems to work fine. However, note that you have to follow the instructions given in NeXTAnswers for installing an updated driver, but with the Floppy driver to be loaded from the Core Drivers disk (image downloadable from ftp.next.com) rather than from the Devices directory (a difference apparently between 3.2 and 3.3). Once it boots you have to patch the driver that has been installed. I hope this gives enough for you to get going? Sorry it's not more clear on this occasion. Best wishes, mmalc.
Message-ID: <3468E0F1.4700@codeweavers.com> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:49:21 -0600 From: Josh DuBois <duboisj@codeweavers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Rhapsody DR on Intel Installation Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, all. First I'd like to thank everyone on comp.sys.next groups who've been so responsive to my last couple of posts (I feel like I've been asking a lot of questions around here lately) and to say that I hope this is an appropriate place to post Rhapsody-related questions. If anyone feels that this is not the place, or that there's a better one, please let me know. That aside, I'm trying to install the Rhapsody developer release for Intel (got it yesterday). I'd like to install with an ATAPI CD-ROM onto an IDE hard-drive. None of the drives I can find recognize my CD (it isn't a hardware problem : I've tested it under DOS, and with the OpenStep 4.2 installation). The old Openstep installation process required that you choose the Adaptec 154x SCSI driver to use an ATAPI CD. That doesn't work with my CD under Rhapsody (but does under Openstep 4.2). The Rhapsody installation process has options for EIDE / ATAPI drivers and for dual EIDE / ATAPI drivers. Neither of these work. I'm using a P-90 with dual EIDE controllers on-board. The hard-drive and CD are both on the same cable - the HD is master & the CD slave. Things crash as follows : sd0 : Waiting for device to come ready..... (or something pretty close) a couple of screens worth of debugging info fly by. I get a complaint of 'Can't mount root device' and am asked for an alternate (sd%, hd%, en%, etc.) Anybody got any ideas? Has anyone sucessfully installed Rhapsody for Intel on *any* hardware configuration? Thanks a bunch, Josh. Anybody got any ideas?
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Plug-and-Play Hard-Drive for Black Hardware? Date: 16 Nov 1997 03:25:55 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <64lp43$r7i@mochi.lava.net> References: <64kr6n$1shc@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu (JB.) wrote: > Looking for a new drive with about 2G capacity which I can use in my NeXT > Turbo. What's the easiest and best solution? Which drives have people > found to be essentially `plug-and-play' AND reliable? Fast doesn't hurt, > but quiet and cool is important, too. I'm not sure that you can assume that any drive will be truly plug-and-play. To install an internal drive, you must ensure that the drive termination is on, that the drive supplies termination power to the SCSI bus (the SCSI hardware on the CPU board doesn't - someone correct me if I'm wrong about this), and that the drive isn't operating in synchronous transfer mode (I believe some drives call synchronous mode "SCSI 2" and asynchronous, "SCSI 1"). And don't bother paying for a fast drive because the old SCSI hardware on NeXT computers isn't capable of taking advantage of the speed in most cases. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu (JB.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Plug-and-Play Hard-Drive for Black Hardware? Date: 15 Nov 1997 18:55:19 GMT Organization: University of California, SF Message-ID: <64kr6n$1shc@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Looking for a new drive with about 2G capacity which I can use in my NeXT Turbo. What's the easiest and best solution? Which drives have people found to be essentially `plug-and-play' AND reliable? Fast doesn't hurt, but quiet and cool is important, too. I know this is really a FAQ, but what is the most frequent answer? If you have a recommendation, please e-mail me. Thanks. John
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP, Stupid cube question from new owner Date: 15 Nov 1997 15:46:10 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <64kg42$j5h$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <346d0543.0@bartlett> Cc: Fred H Biebesheimer <gunslngr@televar.com> wrote: > >then I get a panic > >panic: (Cpu 0) od: empty q > Unplug the cable to the optical drive and try again, it would boot fine afterwards. I also got that error 2 weeks ago, and this weekend I plan on working on that optical drive. Hope that helps, Paulus
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 15 Nov 1997 00:26:20 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> In article <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org>, Brendan Bolles <mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com> wrote: >When I first got my NeXTstation Turbo [...] > It'd be cool to see that old Black Hole >icon from NeXTSTEP 1.0. You'll have to find someone w/ an older Cube because these guys are on ODs. I seem to recall someone who extracted the black hole icons (all 6?, 7? of them) a long time ago. If you do get NS1.0, I believe the file system format isn't completely compatible with 2.0 and above. Something having to do with boot blocks. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 07:15:00 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chuck Swiger wrote: > > emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > > Will NeXTSTEP 3.0 run on 040/25 computers? > > That's an odd question. NS 3.0 didn't run on anything *except* > NeXT's Motorola-based hardware. I believe the question he was asking is if NS 3.0 will run on a 68040-based motherboard as opposed to a 68030. I seem to recall from one of the NeXTWorld magazines an explanation of why older versions of NeXTSTEP couldn't run on the new Turbo hardware, but I don't remember what the version number was or whether that only applied to Turbo (33MHz) machines rather than all 68040's. -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: IBM CDRM00201 likes CDDA Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EJq3xD.K8I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 05:15:13 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I just tried OmniCD with our lab's IBM CDRM00201 and CDDA capture works fine on my non-Turbo colour slab. I edited the deviceinfo.dict file and duplicated the model-less Toshiba line, replacing Toshiba by IBM (previous disassembly of the IBM drive revealed it to be a stealth Toshiba drive--XM3701B, maybe?) Anyway, I have no idea whether this will work with all IBM drives so YMMV. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Pictures of ADB keyboard? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EJq6FD.J9w@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 06:09:13 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo Hey. Does anyone have a high quality image of the ADB keyboard? I've seen the diagram in NeXTanswers but have always wondered what they really look like. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Plug-and-Play Hard-Drive for Black Hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EJpGq8.11K@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:54:07 GMT References: <64kr6n$1shc@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <64kr6n$1shc@itssrv1.ucsf.edu>, JB. <badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote: >Looking for a new drive with about 2G capacity which I can use in my NeXT >Turbo. What's the easiest and best solution? Which drives have people >found to be essentially `plug-and-play' AND reliable? Fast doesn't hurt, >but quiet and cool is important, too. > I just stuck a Seagate ST52160N in my cube and it works well; the system automatically build two 1.08 GB partitions, which workes well for my setup. It seems fairly cool-running as well and is nice and quiet. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 15 Nov 1997 21:54:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64l5n7$mu9$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > You'll have to find someone w/ an older Cube because these > guys are on ODs. I seem to recall someone who extracted the > black hole icons (all 6?, 7? of them) a long time ago. There are some Recycler icons at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/RecyclerSounds.NIHS.bs.tar.gz I'm not sure if any of these are what you are looking for... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: hocker@odin.egate.net (Matthew Hocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor Technical Info:? Date: 15 Nov 1997 22:11:20 GMT Organization: E-Gate Communications (odin.egate.net), Toronto, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <64l6m8$q8t@odin.egate.net> References: <64gclm$om6@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> What is the "sync on green" adapter? I'm still trying to get a monitor to work between my SGI Indigo and my Nextstation color. The SGI definitely needs sync-on-green... does the Next Color monitor not support it "out of the box"? Thanks Matt Otto (Ottor@hotmail.comDELETETHIS) wrote: : Can anyone provide or point me to a resource for technical information on : the NeXT 17" Color Monitor (Model N4006)?? : I am looking for a pin-out for the output plug. Is it in the manual? : Pardon my ignorance, but what other monitors might use this pin-out? : Recently I purchased one of these monitors from Deepspacetech : (www.deepspacetech.com) and I'm using it on a Power Mac 7300. It works : great...they included the necessary 'sync on green' adapter made by : Griffin. : Thanks. : Otto
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <11552879051630@digifix.com> Date: 16 Nov 1997 05:00:31 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <19598879656442@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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From: marcos@magicnew.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sperm Donors-$1000/week Message-ID: <161197193224@magicnew.net> Organization: himedia Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 00:27:24 GMT If you are a healthy male between the ages of 18-45 and are seriously interested in participating and earning up to $1000 weekly through various sperm donor programs in the following US states and Canadian Provinces, send e-mail to donorsite@technologist.com USA: Alabama Kentucky North Dakota Louisiana Ohio Arizona Maine Oklahoma Arkansas Maryland Oregon California Massachusetts Pennsylvania Colorado Michigan Rhode Island Connecticut Minnesota South Carolina Delaware Mississippi South Dakota District of Columbia Missouri Tennessee Florida Montana Texas Georgia Nebraska Utah Hawaii Nevada Vermont Idaho New Hampshire Virginia Illinois New Jersey Washington Indiana New Mexico West Virginia Iowa New York Wisconsin Kansas North Carolina Wyoming Canada: Alberta British Columbia Manitoba New Brunswick Quebec Northwest Territories Nova Scotia Ontario - Yukon donorsite@technologist.com <=<>==<==<=>=<<>=><<
Sender: juh@sparclx2 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cannot export a SCSI-HD From: juh@JanUlrich.Hasecke@pironet.netsurf.de (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Date: 16 Nov 1997 21:43:49 +0000 Message-ID: <86zpn48qga.fsf@sparclx2> I have a new additional SCSI-HD, where I only want to store Data. So there are no programs on it and it is not a boot-device. Via NFSManager I exported the disk to a SUN Solaris 2.5.1. But rebooting the NEXT there came this message: autonfsmountexportfs: /DATEN no such file or directory /DATEN is the label of the disk. On the NEXT it works fine, but I cannot mount it on the SUN Workstation. Can anyone help me? -- Das GenerationenProjekt. Eine Jahrhunderthälfte in Texten http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~JanUlrich.Hasecke/GenerationenProjekt/ Die Reise nach Jerusalem (Roman, 133 Seiten) http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~JanUlrich.Hasecke/drnj_1.html
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From: "Clemmensen" <gclem@frontline-software.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cannot export a SCSI-HD Date: 16 Nov 1997 22:28:43 GMT Organization: ObjectWare, Inc. Message-ID: <01bcf2df$3a9c93a0$9402cfcf@armaga.texas.net> References: <86zpn48qga.fsf@sparclx2> The disk has been automount'ed, i.e. even a logout would have produced the problem you describe. Put the mount into /etc/fstab (without the automount option) and you should be fine. Geert Jan Ulrich Hasecke <juh@JanUlrich.Hasecke@pironet.netsurf.de> wrote in article <86zpn48qga.fsf@sparclx2>... > > I have a new additional SCSI-HD, where I only want to store Data. So > there are no programs on it and it is not a boot-device. > > Via NFSManager I exported the disk to a SUN Solaris 2.5.1. But > rebooting the NEXT there came this message: > > autonfsmountexportfs: /DATEN no such file or directory > > /DATEN is the label of the disk. > > On the NEXT it works fine, but I cannot mount it on the SUN Workstation. > > Can anyone help me? > > -- > Das GenerationenProjekt. Eine Jahrhunderthälfte in Texten > http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~JanUlrich.Hasecke/GenerationenProjekt/ > Die Reise nach Jerusalem (Roman, 133 Seiten) > http://www.koeln.netsurf.de/~JanUlrich.Hasecke/drnj_1.html >
From: chris@vespucci.advicom.net (Chris Fisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ANSWER: Next turbo color headless. Date: 17 Nov 1997 00:21:06 -0600 Organization: interQuest Online Services -- Huntsville, AL Distribution: world Message-ID: <64onoi$a9n@vespucci.advicom.net> Just to verify Next turbo colors work fine without monitors/etc... Simply hook up once to set your various prom options and you are ready to go. chris (who is now very happy with the 4 headless boxes arriving soon from orb) -- Machines: nippur (next turbo colour 96m) ur (ipc 32m) kish (ipx 32m) Semi-Rabid TDS/South Park Viewer | Current CD: UK NeXTstep/*BSD*/Solaris/SunOS/OSF/Linux/Ultrix/OS2/WinNTi/VSTa/SCO/etc...
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 16 Nov 1997 23:25:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <64nvdk$l8f$3@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> <64l5n7$mu9$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <64l5n7$mu9$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <nospam@all.please> wrote: >I'm not sure if any of these are what you are looking for... Yeah, these are the ones, but I remember more icons for the black hole... Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: Rene Berber <r.berber@computer.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SOLVED: configuration of HayesESP? Date: 16 Nov 1997 07:10:06 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <64m68e$k3o$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> References: <6412d6$4gm$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: r.berber@computer.org Hello all, After getting a hint from my BIOS (it reports 3 COM ports at boot time giving their I/O addresses) I was able to configure the HayesESP on my PC which is running NeXTStep 3.3 (NS). For the record, here are the steps followed: Step 1: Install the card into an ISA-16 slot. Take note of the I/O address set in the jumpers (0x300 in my case). Step 2: Boot NS and login as root. Install and HayesESP driver (version 0.2). Set I/O address to the one recorded in step 1. Install either another instance of the SerialPort driver (version 3.33) or the Mux driver (version 1.7; set up used: "Serial Ports, COM3"). The I/O address is set to 0x3E8 by the SerialPort driver if the HayesESP is the third port, the IRQ can be any number below 10. Take note of the IRQ selected. NOTE - The card works with both drivers, SerialPort from NeXT and Mux driver from Mark Salyzyn (available at peak and peanuts). OPTIONAL - Set the speed multiplier used by the card, the default set by the driver is 8; I prefer to use 4. In /etc/rc.local add the following 4 lines: # # Set the Hayes ESP card to multiply speed rate by 4 # /usr/local/bin/chbaud 2 chbaud is a program that comes with the HayesESP driver (you have to compile and install it.) Step 3: Reboot your machine in DOS (or Windows95) to use the configuration software from Hayes. OPTIONAL (while booting) - for machines with a PCI bus the IRQ selected in step 2 has to be set up on your BIOS as used by an ISA card (otherwise a PCI card might try to use it). Configure the IRQ used on the ESP card using the configuration tool provided by Hayes ftp://ftp.hayes.com/esp, for example using I/O address 0x300 and IRQ 9 run: espca i300:9 Step 4: Reboot your machine in NS. Check /usr/adm/messages to look for the successful installation of drivers. Test the serial port. For example using Modulator.app over /dev/cufc I hope this is useful, --- Rene Berber r.berber@computer.org (MIME/NeXTMail welcomed)
From: jeremy@exit109.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <161197193224@magicnew.net> Date: 17 Nov 1997 00:58:06 GMT Organization: Herne the Hunter Control: cancel <161197193224@magicnew.net> Message-ID: <cancel.161197193224@magicnew.net> Sender: marcos@magicnew.net Spam cancelled by jeremy@exit109.com
From: tda@isomedia.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Proggiez Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 06:47:52 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <64opie$jeu$1@usenet85.supernews.com> Can someone give me some suggestions on some really good programs for my NeXT? gerneral stuff.. term programs, ppp setup stuff. network stuff, games, web dev stuff, also, i want to customize the user eniviroment as much as possible.. are there any programs for that? like winhacker is for win95 (not the greatest example, but...) one thing that i havent been able to do is revers the colors of my terminal colors from black on white to white on black. lemme know plz.. thanks all : ) tdå tda@isomedia.com
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From: ginntp@ntu.edu.sg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor Technical Info:? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:50:38 +0800 Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <346FF74E.7C7B@gintic.gov.sg> References: <64gclm$om6@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Otto wrote: > > Can anyone provide or point me to a resource for technical information on > the NeXT 17" Color Monitor (Model N4006)?? > > I am looking for a pin-out for the output plug. Is it in the manual? > Pardon my ignorance, but what other monitors might use this pin-out? > > Recently I purchased one of these monitors from Deepspacetech > (www.deepspacetech.com) and I'm using it on a Power Mac 7300. It works > great...they included the necessary 'sync on green' adapter made by > Griffin. > Is this the Fimi or the Sony one? Willem W i l l e m v a n S c h a i k ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gintic Institute of Manufacturing Technology, 71 Nanyang Drive, Singapore tel +65-7996246 willem@gintic.gov.sg fax +65-7916377 http://mht3.gintic.gov.sg:8000/wwwillem.html
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From: Simon A Trasler <Simon.Trasler@brunel.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Broken NeXT TurboColor Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 10:40:06 +0000 Organization: Brunel University Message-ID: <34701F06.45CB@brunel.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I've inherited an N1200 NeXT TurboColor with one problem - it won't boot. Turn it on and you get the `searching for system files' bit (hard drive icon spins around) from which it never escapes. Sounds like a hard drive problem to me, but I don't know these machines - is there anyone who can help? If you can help me at all, please e-mail me directly - I'd be *extremely* grateful. Thanks, Simon. -- ------------------------ telephone 01895 274000 x3605 ------------------------ ---------- visit me on the web at http://www.brunel.ac.uk/~mapgsat/ ----------
From: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk (David Webster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What U.K modems compatable with Black Hardware Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:02:34 GMT Message-ID: <879764554.21160.0.nnrp-06.c2de026f@news.demon.co.uk> My ZyXEL modem is getting very flaky and I may need to replace it. Does anyone know which U.K modems are compatable. I know I need to have one that 1. controls the DCD (data carrier detect) signal so that it reflects the presence or absence of a remote carrier. 2. Must respond to the DTR (data terminal ready) signal so that it only answers the phone when DTR is on. It must also either drop the phone line or perform a reset when DTR goes from on to off. 3. Must support CTS/RTS (clear-to-send/request-to-send) flow control but getting this info from resellers is not easy. Any help appreciated Thanks David -- Dr David M Webster David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk Southern Cross Molecular or +44 (0)1225 722896 david@scmolec.demon.co.uk NeXTmail + MIME accepted http://www.scmolec.demon.co.uk/
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Networking NeXT and Mac Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:11:40 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <64pj9q$pk7@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com> In article <345BC11D.125D@writeme.com>, wj@writeme.com wrote: > Hello: > > I am thinking of moving my NeXTStation Color home > where I have a PowerBook 520 with an Ethernet > port and a Personal LaserWriter NTX that works > on AppleTalk. My question is: > Is there a way to newtork the NeXT, the Mac, > and the LaserWriter? I'd like to be able > to print without the hassle of moving files > on floppies etc. > > Please e-mail me a recipe for this at wj@writeme.com > Get CAPer.app from Peak or someplace. You can get a link straight to it from www.this.net. I have several Macs, NeXT's, and Win 95 machines all sharing the same AppleTalk protocol ethernet network. Everything works great, but printing from the NeXT to the laser printers requires a little command-line work, but that shouldn't be a problem for you if you follow the insturctions Frank gives. Mitch
From: Michael Busted <mibu93ac@student.econ.cbs.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE: TurboStation Color Motherboard in a Cube case? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 15:48:37 +0100 Organization: Copenhagen Business School Message-ID: <34705945.CFE14953@student.econ.cbs.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is is possible to fit a TurboStation Color motherboard with floppy drive and harddisk etc. in a cube case? - Michael mibu93ac@student.econ.cbs.dk
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What MAC is closest to a black 040/25 Cube ? Date: 12 Nov 1997 22:36:16 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <64db10$1l6$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <64bakf$3hb@slip.net> <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com> In article <64bchg$3q0@dfw-ixnews7.ix.netcom.com>, Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@subsequent.com> wrote: >Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >> I'm considering experimenting with some Sonnet Technologies >> Products (see www.sonnettech.com/product/default.html) >> with a 040/25 cube. >It's highly unlikely that such a thing would work. Spherical >solutions (www.orb.com) came up with a custom-designed >accelerator for black hardware, but it's rather expensive. I wanted to do this a week ago and I got a chance to speak with Gary at Sonnet Tech Support. He told me that there are timing incompatibilities with the NeXT. These difficulties were the reason why they advertise different model numbers for different Macintosh Quadras. Gary also noted that if these accelerators works for NeXTs, Sonnet would advertise them as such and currently, there's not enough demand to warrant changing or adding a model for NeXT computers. Now, I'm not sure if what Gary told me is because of some agreement Sonnet has with Spherical or something like that (i.e. Spherical is the exclusive distributor for NeXT accelerators--if such a thing can exist); but Gary seems frank and honest when we spoke over the telephone. The other caveat is I don't think Sonnet has any money- back guarantee. So to really test it, one would need to buy all 3 models, modify the backplane, and perhaps get some adapter so the accelerators can orient themselves so they'll fit inside a cube/station. Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Monitor and Mac G3 (was: Technical Info:?) Date: 17 Nov 1997 15:18:01 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <64pn79$j6t$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <64gclm$om6@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <346FF74E.7C7B@gintic.gov.sg> ginntp@ntu.edu.sg wrote: >> Recently I purchased one of these monitors from Deepspacetech >> (www.deepspacetech.com) and I'm using it on a Power Mac 7300. It works >> great...they included the necessary 'sync on green' adapter made by >> Griffin. Hello, did anybody try these monitors with the new G3 Macs? Is there any tech info on the G3 video card? I didn't find much, but maybe didn't look hard enough. Thanks. Rudy blazek@stt.msu.edu
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 / Intel / fdisk reports no partitions Date: 13 Nov 1997 14:00:39 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64f167$i71$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pmiglio@mcgh.org In <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Paul Miglio wrote: > > Trying to "GHOST" NeXT 3.3 for Intel on IDE Drive. "GHOST" is failing > > becasue no partitions are defined. Why are no partitions defined? How > > can I define them. > > Because NeXT's lowlevel disk tools suck. > > I've spent the last 2 days futzing with them Sorry for the incredibly non-helpful reply..... I had gone through several (ie dozens) of system panics and manual fsck'ings over the last two days and had to spend a lot of time with the commandline disk tools and found them not very helpful at all. To try and help: you might try hooking the drive to an existing NeXT machine and run BuildDisk, which will allow you to setup partitions graphically. Otherwise you have to use 'disk' at the commandline. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Brian Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DOS Iomega Zip disks on NS 3.0? Date: 17 Nov 1997 06:22:26 -0800 Organization: Original Zippo News Service [http://www.zippo.com] Message-ID: <64pjv2$k5s@drn.zippo.com> I followed the "Hitchhikers guide to the Iomega Zip" and it worked fine, with one exception: NS 3.0 can only read Mac formatted Zip disks. Is there any way to get NS 3.0 to read DOS formatted Zip disks? Or do I need NS 3.3?
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor Technical Info:? Date: 17 Nov 1997 09:41:29 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <64p3g9$93u$2@ocean.cup.hp.com> References: <64gclm$om6@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> <346FF74E.7C7B@gintic.gov.sg> In article <346FF74E.7C7B@gintic.gov.sg>, <willem@gintic.gov.sg> wrote: >Is this the Fimi or the Sony one? I know the Sony works (using one now). The Griffin product will also work on the Hitachi 21"--but only at 1024x768--except I don't have one to try. I don't think the Fimi will work. You do have to take apart the monitor cover and reduce its H-size. Does anyone out there know more about the 17" Sony in particular? I see that there's a phase adjustment, but my monitor droops more on the lower left-hand side of the display and I would need a bottom phase adjustment but none exists as a technician-adjustable pot. Is there an internal adjustment? I don't really feel com- fortable taking apart its internal metal cage. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Performance Availability & Solutions Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: john@getafix.demon.co.uk (John Shirlaw) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What U.K modems compatable with Black Hardware Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 23:29:28 GMT Message-ID: <879809368.14716.0.nnrp-08.9e9826e6@news.demon.co.uk> References: <879764554.21160.0.nnrp-06.c2de026f@news.demon.co.uk> Cc: David_Webster@scmolec.demon.co.uk In <879764554.21160.0.nnrp-06.c2de026f@news.demon.co.uk> David Webster wrote: > My ZyXEL modem is getting very flaky and I may need to replace it. > Does anyone know which U.K modems are compatable. I use a bog standard US Robotics modem...seems to work fine with my slab.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Non-ADB Mouse symptoms Message-ID: <EJt9pt.8sx@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net> <EJt6A2.Mn.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:13:05 GMT In article <EJt6A2.Mn.0.scream@sounds.wa.com>, Brian Willoughby <brianw@sounds.wa.com> wrote: >In article <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, <BillLee@cleaf.com> wrote: >>Have a non-ADB Color slab. The mouse seems to be having a problem: the cursor >>doesn't always move with or even in the same direction as the mouse. Often a >>downward movement of the mouse results in the cursor actually going up on the >>screen and then back down. On occasion, it will go clear to the top of the >>screen and not back down. >> >>Any suggestions? > >Hmm, the only time I've seen this is when I tried to wire a Microsoft >BusMouse to my non-ADB NeXTdimension. I experienced the same opposing >movement, but only on one axis. The other three axes seemed to always >move the mouse pointer in the correct direction. > >All along, I assumed that this was due to the Microsoft Mouse being a >higher resolution than the NeXTmouse, or because there are different >wirings required for each mouse. Since I only needed the Microsoft Mouse >to function while I was waiting for a warranty replacement for my >NeXTmouse, I did not investigate further. > >Either you have a non-NeXT mouse, or perhaps the wiring is flaking out. > The message does not say what mouse this is. I had the same problem with a black mouse. Sometimes the cursor did not move at all. I opened the mouse and could not find anything wrong. I also tried to borrow other parts from other mouse and this problem still remains. Then the trick I found is that when this happens, raise the mouse and twist the ball a bit. It starts working afterwards. Now I use this "non-working" mouse everyday. I have not had problem with this for weeks. Hope this helps.
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: 18 Nov 1997 00:58:42 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <64qp82$1bp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org>, > Brendan Bolles <mrb@spamisevil.bowles-hall.com> wrote: > >When I first got my NeXTstation Turbo > [...] > > It'd be cool to see that old Black Hole > >icon from NeXTSTEP 1.0. > > If you do get NS1.0, I believe the file system format isn't > completely compatible with 2.0 and above. Something having > to do with boot blocks. It's really rather simple. When NS1.0 was written, it was coded to work with the 68030 processor. The need to cope with the way in which stack information differs between 68030 and 68040 processors was not forseen, possibly due to the imperfections of the NeXT Crystal Ball Future Hardware Department. So in general, User-level programs that were written for the 030 continue to work on the 040, but System-level stuff, from the inital bootstrap on up, does not necessarily do so. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help booting turbocolor station Date: 18 Nov 1997 03:20:30 GMT Message-ID: <19971118032000.WAA28874@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19971108093301.EAA14846@ladder01.news.aol.com> Im having problems with my slab which is running NS 3.3.The rom monitor gives the following message Load of /etc/mach_init,errno 2 ,trying /etc/init Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 I have tried what is on NeXT answers under the subject Power On,and a few other suggestions I received in e mail,but I only get a load failed error. Someone suggested that I try to boot from a non corrupted init file... Ive gotta admit my ignorance on this,can anyone help out or point me in the direction of info on how to do this? Sam Goldberg has offered to rebuild my HD but I would prefer to try and fix the prob myself in case it happens again. Would anyone offer some suggestions as to backing up the OS? How much space does one need for just 3.3 user? Jaz disc,DAT tape? What about the inexpensive tape drives Iomega makes,or the Syquest EZ flyer? Thanks In Advance Mark
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help booting turbocolor station Date: 18 Nov 1997 04:35:04 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64r5to$mic$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19971108093301.EAA14846@ladder01.news.aol.com> <19971118032000.WAA28874@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: markm3leit@aol.com In <19971118032000.WAA28874@ladder02.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > Im having problems with my slab which is running NS 3.3.The rom monitor gives > the following message > Load of /etc/mach_init,errno 2 ,trying /etc/init > Load of /etc/init failed, errno 2 > > I have tried what is on NeXT answers under the subject Power On,and a few other > suggestions I received in e mail,but I only get a load failed error. I'm very curious what causes this... I have seen this several times and had it happen to me too.... > Someone suggested that I try to boot from a non corrupted init file... > Ive gotta admit my ignorance on this,can anyone help out or point me in the > direction of info on how to do this? Sam Goldberg has offered to rebuild my HD > but I would prefer to try and fix the prob myself in case it happens again. You're probably out of luck... Can you boot into single user mode? If so, do you have the 3.3 CD? If so, mount the CD and try copying the file. Or boot off the CD ROM, mount the HD and try copying the file. However, you may find that there are a lot of '/etc' files missing. It may be best to save your data and do a fresh reinstall. If Sam offered to do so, I would probably take him up on it. > Would anyone offer some suggestions as to backing up the OS? How much space > does one need for just 3.3 user? Jaz disc,DAT tape? What about the inexpensive > tape drives Iomega makes,or the Syquest EZ flyer? Less than 100 megs. It could easily fit on one EZFlyer. SyQuest drives are fast enough to use as boot drives in a pinch. Iomega (zip/jaz) are slower. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Non-ADB Mouse symptoms Date: 18 Nov 1997 05:56:00 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <64ralg$d9e@mochi.lava.net> References: <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net> <EJt6A2.Mn.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <EJt9pt.8sx@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: > I had the same problem with a black mouse. Sometimes the cursor did not > move at all. I opened the mouse and could not find anything wrong. > I also tried to borrow other parts from other mouse and this problem > still remains. Then the trick I found is that when this happens, raise > the mouse and twist the ball a bit. It starts working afterwards. Classic symptom of cable conductors that are broken where the cable exits the mouse. This occurs on all old black mice eventually due to metal fatigue. I have repaired mine twice by cutting out the bad cable and resoldering the new cable ends to the internal connector (requires patience and a small soldering iron). -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: Seamus Dunne <dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 22:46:35 -0800 Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <347139CB.F44D84AE@unixg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I use a ZIP drive attached to my NeXT 68040 Slab, running NS3.3. Does anyone know how to write-lock a ZIP disk so it will be read-only? Reply please to my email address as well: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca Thanks!! SD
From: "Bruce F. Webster" <bwebster@bfwa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: OFFER/HELP: free hardware for salvaged files Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 19:00:47 -0500 Organization: Bruce F. Webster and Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <34722C2F.2978@bfwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am the owner of two comotose NeXT systems: a NeXTcube (upgraded to 25 MHz '040, 600MB internal HD, non-working OD, 64MB RAM, MegaPixel Display, non-ADB keyboard/mouse) and a Color NeXTstation (25 MHz '040, 1 GB HD, 32 MB RAM, 21" color monitor, ADB keyboard/mouse). Neither machine will now successfully boot; the 'cube apparently died in the move here from San Diego, and the 'station died a few weeks ago while being used by my wife. In both cases, it appears to be a problem with the disk; the cube can't recognize the internal HD anymore, while the boot block on the station's drive appears munged. I have files that I'd like to get off of both machines, as well as lots of files on ODs that I'd like to salvage as well. Despite my sentimental attachment to the hardware--the cube is serial #AAK00000200 and was given to me in December of 1988 immediately after Steve Jobs used it for a PBS special--I am willing to give it all away (along with other miscellaneous NeXT soft- and hardware, including two malfunctioning NeXTlaser printers) to anyone who has the time, patience, talent, skill, and hardware to help me salvage as many of the files as I can onto Zip (or Jaz) disks. I'll even throw in an autographed copy of one of my books (and, yes, that can even be _The NeXT Book_; I've got a spare or two sitting around). I have fairly decent backups of both systems; the cube's files I can live without, but my wife has various files on the station that she'd love to recover. And I've got lots and lots of ODs to look through. I live in the Washington DC area and in fact am right in the middle of moving from Oakton VA to Bethesda MD. The best way to contact me for the next few weeks is at work: bruce_webster@fanniemae.com (NeXTmail OK) or 202.752.3979. If there is someone out there who can help, please contact me directly instead of posting to here. Thanks much. ..bruce..
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to run FSCK on a SyQuest drive Date: 10 Nov 1997 02:43:30 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <645sci$i6g@cocoa.brown.edu> I made a SyQuest removalble hard disk bootable but it is dammagaed and I can not boot from it. My internal hard drive is fine. My SyQest drive is at target 2 How do I run FSCK manualy? Thank you, Andrew andrew@cfm.brown.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gwong@eecg.toronto.edu (Gilbert Wong) Subject: modem for NeXTstation Message-ID: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> Organization: Computer Group, Elec. Eng., University of Toronto Date: 19 Nov 97 02:07:15 GMT Hi, Do anyone know if there is any limitation on the kind of modem that can be used for NeXTstation? Gilbert
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From: dgkauf@ibm.net (dale) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: 14" monitor Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:35:14 GMT Message-ID: <34727a8a.11058319@news1.ibm.net> FS in Chicago area manufacturer: Pixie 14" color highest res i've gotten it up to with my Ati 3d Rage II is 1152x864 (16 bit color) Asking $130 +?? Shipping or best offer. Email me at dgkauf@ibm.net if you're interested
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 19 Nov 1997 07:02:43 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> gwong@eecg.toronto.edu (Gilbert Wong) wrote: >Hi, > >Do anyone know if there is any limitation on the kind of modem >that can be used for NeXTstation? > >Gilbert Any external modem (excluding cable modems) should be fine. Just get the right cable. Type man zs at the terminal prompt for details. There are a couple of vendors that sell them pre-made. I don't know the answer for cable modems. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely P.S. If responding to my e-mail, remove ANTI_SPAM_ from email address.
From: rameri@REMOVEcs.uwa.edu.au Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ASUS SCSI cards Date: 19 Nov 1997 07:32:23 GMT Organization: CS Dept UWA (DSO, VC, MT, MT, MT) Message-ID: <879924827.522223@bilby> Cache-Post-Path: bilby!unknown@bart Hello All, I'm wondering if anyone has had some luck running the ASUS S875 Ultra PCI SCSI card under Openstep 4.2. I've checked NextAnswers and since the card has a SYMBIOS LOGIC 53C875 chipset, I thought the NCR/Symbios SCSI PCI drivers would work, but, the particular chipset isn't supported (only SYM53c810, SYM53c815, SYM53c820, SYM53c825). Any ideas? Rameri --- Rameri Salama rameri@REMOVEcs.uwa.edu.au http://www.cs.uwa.edu.au/~rameri
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: disktab entries rotational speed (rm) Date: 14 Nov 1997 22:29:18 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <64ijbu$rhc$9@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <346C8F74.517F@isi.edu> Stacy Marsella <marsella@isi.edu> wrote: > I had to create a disktab entry for a seagate barracuda 2.1 gig hard > drive - for NeXTStep 3.2 running on a NextStation > > When it came to the rotational speed (rm), instead of using the default > 3600 rpm, I entered 7200 rpm which is the speed of the barracuda drive. > > Now I wonder, did I do the right thing? Yes. > Presumably the speed entry just impacts the interleave factor Nope. It's quite a bit more sophisticated than that-- the entire drive does not have a fixed interleave: ie, the logical sectors one refers to are not automatically translated to physical sectors across the entire drive. Instead, the high-level formatting tools which create the filesystem (aka, newfs/mkfs) record the rotational speed (in RPS), the minimum time (in milliseconds) required to initiate another disk transfer, the number of sectors the system can read per disk transfer, and cylinder group information, and also whether the system should optimize performance for space or for time. When data is written to a file, the system considers these factors and tries to lay blocks out to minimize sequential access time, to what extent it should fragment files across cylinder groups, and so forth. > but why should i assume that the system handles that info any better than > its calculation of partition sizes for disks > 2 gig (which of course is > why I had to create a disktab entry in the first place) At the time the FFS was written (1983-84), a 10 MB hard drive was fairly large, and it was believed that people could deal with partitioning larger drives a decade or two down the road when sufficiently large drives became commercially available. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Brent Clothier <bclothie@nospam.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: VIA chipsets and busmastering Date: Sun, 09 Nov 1997 17:28:33 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Message-ID: <34664721.4956@nospam.uiuc.edu> References: <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eSCykLVdiKwW@iohk.com> <34638379.41C6@uiuc.edu> <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-eKcsGDdYtIdz@iohk.com> <3464C0EC.3377@nospam.uiuc.edu> <tXdWk7SDoMO5-pn2-beFSzQ32Ufxd@iohk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Coming from OS/2 I'd say that's the easy part of the job - the next > step is to pan out the great "Windows-only" stuff and look for > companies with good reputation for cross-platform support. You are definitely right. I am not an OS/2 user so you are coming from a different perspective here. Hopefully, you will find a vendor that also provides excellent OS/2 support as well. :-) > My Mac is all-SCSI and I'll need at least external SCSI for the PC as > well, but I also want to move over to the new system my current EIDE > investment. And honestly, busmastered Ultra DMA/33 should compare > reasonably well with everything but the fastest SCSI options, at least > price/performance wise. I'd still want SCSI to overcome EIDE > limitations but it should be okay for 2 HDs - if busmastered... :^) Price/performance is the reason I avoided SCSI for now. But by Feb. the DPT representatives say they will have an Ultra SCSI-2 card out which they will call the SmartCache V. I think I might go that route then (or get a FibreChanel PCI card for the hard drive). The computer I described in my original posting was for my work group. For my personal computer I want nothing but the best - well, the best I can afford. > No thanks - anything from Diamond is X-ed out from my purchase lists > thanks to their wonderful OS/2 support. "Fool me once, shame on you - > fool me twice..." Sorry to hear about your negative OS/2-Diamond experience. The Viper V330 is really a superb card. Unfortunately it has no NS 3.x or OS 4.x drivers yet but I am not looking to install OS 4.x on that particular machine. I will install Openstep 4.2 on my personal machine. Incidentally, I was not implying that this card be your only choice. The Number Nine Revolution 3D is also an excellent card and can be expanded to 16MB of on-board WRAM. It does come with NS 3.x and OS 4.x drivers (see NeXTAnswers). Either way, this board will more than eliminate the need for AGP with its large frame buffer. > Hey, I wanted VIA chipset with busmastering, not Intel... ;-) And > don't the Intel chipsets all have the 64MB cache limitation? Yes, I didn't mention the TX memory limitation in my last posting because my fingers starting cramping up from all that typing. :-) This is a great example of Intel's marketing at work. They figure that, "Hey, let's build in a little performance obsolescence in our next chipset so we can move everyone to the Pentium II." I don't know if or when you plan on upgrading next, but the AOpen board would not be a bad choice unless you: (1) have old memory you wish to place in it and/or (2) you want more than 64MB of total system memory. Otherwise you could invest in a high quality 10 ns 64MB DIMM. The memory module could then be ported in the future to the 100 MHz memory bus promised with the 440BX and 440NX chipsets. The 440BX chipset has been sampling since September and motherboards are expected to arrive with the 440BX chips in Jan/Feb. I am sure Intel will not allow AMD to come out with a 100MHz memory bus (ie. the AMD640 chipset) before they do. Intel isn't investing in any more Pentium chipsets in order to push the market to Pentium II systems. If Via comes out with a 100MHz memory bus chipset, that might be worth investing in. As for now, Via's VP3 with AGP seems unnecessary. I, for one, think that AGP is pointless in Socket 7 (Pentium) motherboards except to increase vendor profits. The current Socket 7 memory bus is too slow for AGP's DIME feature to enhance performance much. Competition between the CPU and video card for bus access won't help either, especially since the CPU must arbitrate transfers to and from the system memory regardless of the process involved. The promised x2 sidebanding (transferring data on the rising and falling edges of the clock) will also be difficult to implement since the memory bus for the Socket 7 was not designed with this in mind (the Via VP3 does not support this). The Slot 1 (Pentium II) architecture, however, can accomodate these features since its bandwidth is adequate when 100MHz is used. At 66 MHz PCI vs. AGP performance is the same unless artificially large 3D textures are forced during benchmarking). So the AOpen board is an excellent choice if (AGP aside) you don't plan on using more than 64MB. If you buy a board now, you will want to replace it anyway when the 100 MHz Socket 7 boards start arriving. You can transfer your CPU and memory then and just pay to replace the board. Should more memory be needed, buy another 64MB DIMM. In the mean time you will have the fastest Socket 7 board available. > And the prices here...HKG _was_ a shopper's paradise and no-name > far-east stuff can still be found cheap here, but motherboards... I > was recently told of an area in Taipei (Taiwan) for good shopping I > haven't had a chance to go there. But if you know any place in Long > Island, NY for great mobo prices do let me know. I am not familiar with too Long Island vendors but if you go to Price Watch (www.pricewatch.com). You might find a dealer there. Best of luck. Brent
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Plug-and-Play Hard-Drive for Black Hardware? Date: 19 Nov 1997 11:33:26 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <64uiq6$9md$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <64kr6n$1shc@itssrv1.ucsf.edu> <64lp43$r7i@mochi.lava.net> arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") wrote: >badanes@itsa.ucsf.edu (JB.) wrote: >> Looking for a new drive with about 2G capacity which I can use in my NeXT >> Turbo. What's the easiest and best solution? Which drives have people >> found to be essentially `plug-and-play' AND reliable? Fast doesn't hurt, >> but quiet and cool is important, too. > > I'm not sure that you can assume that any drive will be truly >plug-and-play. To install an internal drive, you must ensure that the drive >termination is on, that the drive supplies termination power to the SCSI bus >(the SCSI hardware on the CPU board doesn't - someone correct me if I'm wrong >about this), and that the drive isn't operating in synchronous transfer mode >(I believe some drives call synchronous mode "SCSI 2" and asynchronous, "SCSI >1"). Excellent summary - it should go in the FAQ! The termpower bit is especially important. I'd like to add that getting a cool drive is important, as the station is quite cramped, and modern 7200 rpm drives will get too hot, which may damage the motherboard (and of course reduces the discs lifespan). I've had excellent experiences with Quantum Fireball drives. They are _very_ quiet and get only lukewarm. The 2GB version works fine with black hardware. Best regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: sdroll@NOSPMmathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Sven Droll) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What CD-ROM will fit Cube faceplate? Date: 19 Nov 1997 13:00:44 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <64unts$q1o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <EJLqwC.IpE@midway.uchicago.edu> Mine is a Sony CDU 8002 (or so) with Caddy (1x Speed). It fits and works fine. ciao Sven -- Sven Droll __ ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ please delete the 'NOSPM' from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ =====\_/======= LOGOUT FASCISM! ___________________________________________________________________ NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-)
From: "Larry S. Lile" <lile@heathers2.stdio.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help installing 3.0/3.1 on IBM 664-M1H (2Gig SCSI-II) drive Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:26:59 -0500 Organization: Open World Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.971119102124.3386A-100000@heathers2.stdio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I GIVE! Please take mercy on my poor tortured mind. How do I get my NeXT Station Turbo Color to install 3.0/3.2 onto an IBM 0664-M1H drive? I am now at the point where the drive will boot on the system and be recognized, formatted with sdform but will not initialize. Oh yeah, the drive is actually just a hair under 2G (~1996Meg) so it should not need to be partitioned, just in case that helps, anyway. Here's the whole ugly story. Several people including me bought a bunch of NeXT's (20) in NC. Four or five of us have 664's for boot drives, so I got elected to figure out how to make it work. First I got unknown message:1 from the machine after the system tried to touch the drive. So I checked termination, scsi id, and parity. We set it to terminated (only drive inside the case) non-parity and scsi id 1. We set the external cd-rom to id 6 and terminated it (only drive outside the case). Then tried again, failed again with the same errors, unkown message... boot cd.... panic. Then I started reading the FAQ from peanuts and the drive docs from IBM and guessed that it might be SDTR (Synchronous drive negotiation initiated from the drive). Called IBM and found out how to turn this off. Also I turned off untagged command queuing (Yes, UNtagged??? New one on me). Now I can boot the machine from cd and the only messages I see are bad cksum/bad version... which are all standard to new drive (right?). When the system boots and starts the install it wants to initialize the drive, so I so ok, it tries to write the label/boot sector and starts giving write errors and retries finally ending in write returned -1 no boot blocks written (from memory). The obvious answer is bad drive or bad track 0, but this drive can be formatted and boot FreeBSD or Winbloze without a whimper. ***ARGH**** So, If anyone has any idea at all how to coerce this drive into working please, please clue me in. I have read through the FAQ and the drive doc's and can't see where to go next? The drive docs are at http://www.storage.ibm.com support technical support table of disk drives SCSI 0664-M1H / 0664-N1H (Yes there web site kinda sucks, there is no direct URL that I can find...) I am thinking that I need to fiddle with the mode select pages more. I appended them to the end of this post in case anybody sees anything obvious. -- Thanks in advance Larry Lile lile@stdio.com ------------------------------------------------------------- Models 0664 M1H and 0664 N1H Mode select options Certain parameters are alterable using the SCSI "Mode Select" command. This allo ws certain drive characteristics to be modified to optimize performance on a partic ular system. Refer to the 0664 S10 SCSI Functional Specification for a detailed defin ition of Mode Select parameters. The changeable parameters are: Block Descriptor Number of Blocks Block length Page 0 QPE (Qualify Post Error) UQE (Untagged Queuing Enable) <---- Disabled DWD (Disable Write Disconnect) ASDPE (Additional Save Data Pointer Enable) CMDAC RPFAE (Report Predictive Failure Analysis Error) CPE (Concurrent Processing Enable) DSN (Disable Synchronous Negotiations) <--- Disabled FRDD (Format and Reassign Degraded Disable) DPSDP (Data Phase Save Data Pointer) WPEN (Write Protect Enable) DRD (Disable Read Disconnect) LED Mode--allows user to choose function of LED pins Page 1 AWRE (Automatic Write Reallocation Enable) ARRE (Automatic Read Reallocation Enable) TB (Transfer Block) RC (Read Continuous) PER (Post Error) DTE (Disable Transfer on Error) DCR (Disable Correction) Read Retry Count Page 2 Read Buffer Full Ratio Write Buffer Empty Ratio Maximum Burst Size Page 4 RPL (Rotational Position Locking) Rotational Offset Page 7 PER DCR Page 8 WCE (Write Cache Enable) MF (Multiplication Factor) RCD (Read Cache Disable) Demand Read Retention Priority Write Retention Priority Disable Pre-fetch Transfer Length Maximum Pre-fetch Maximum Pre-fetch Ceiling Number of Cache Segments Page A (hex) Queue Algorithm Modifier QErr (Queue Error Management) DQue (Disable Queueing)
From: Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:15:43 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton Inc. Message-ID: <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just wanna check what's your opinion on Intel-based machine and also NeXT black hardware.... which one will you guys suggest? Tim
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 19 Nov 1997 23:46:24 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <64vtog$t7v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: > Any external modem (excluding cable modems) should be fine. Just get the > right cable. Type man zs at the terminal prompt for details. There are a > couple of vendors that sell them pre-made. Yes, and Mac cables are not the right cables. See 'man zs' or checkout www.orb.com and/or www.deepspacetech.com. > I don't know the answer for cable modems. A cable modem is a bit of a misnomer. It's not a modem as you think of it.... Instead it is a box about the size of a decent dictionary. The coaxial cable connection into the box. There is an ``RJ-45'' port (looks like a wide phone jack) on the modem and a patch cable connects from the box to the NeXT (there's a RJ-45 port on the NeXTStation) or your Ethernet card. There's no problem using a cable modem with a non-turbo NeXTStation. I've seen 200kb/s downloads on mine (which is as fast as I get on my Intel). The only possible problem you could have is if the cable modem using DHCP (or is that DCHP?) rather than a static IP. I don't think there is any way to get DHCP to work with (NeXT|Open)Step. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help installing 3.0/3.1 on IBM 664-M1H (2Gig SCSI-II) drive Date: 19 Nov 1997 23:44:59 GMT Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd. Message-ID: <64vtlr$lak$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.971119102124.3386A-100000@heathers2.stdio.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lile@heathers2.stdio.com In <Pine.SUN.3.91.971119102124.3386A-100000@heathers2.stdio.com> "Larry S. Lile" wrote: > I GIVE! Please take mercy on my poor tortured mind. How > do I get my NeXT Station Turbo Color to install 3.0/3.2 onto > an IBM 0664-M1H drive? I am now at the point where the drive > will boot on the system and be recognized, formatted with > sdform but will not initialize. Oh yeah, the drive is actually > just a hair under 2G (~1996Meg) so it should not need to be > partitioned, just in case that helps, anyway. One of the usual questions: Is one or the other of your drives supplying SCSI TERMPWR? The SCSI Spec strongly suggests that the host adapter (controller) should do this. The NeXT way leaves it to the internal drive. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 20 Nov 1997 07:29:44 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <650ot8$f5s$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <64vtog$t7v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >There's no problem using a cable modem with a non-turbo NeXTStation. I've >seen 200kb/s downloads on mine (which is as fast as I get on my Intel). > >The only possible problem you could have is if the cable modem using DHCP (or >is that DCHP?) rather than a static IP. I don't think there is any way to >get DHCP to work with (NeXT|Open)Step. Timothy, Why did you specify the non-turbo NextStation above? Do you have extra information regarding the turbo models. Are they missing the RJ-45 connection? Is DCHP something to do with dynamic ip addressing? Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tidbit: Cable modems and OpenStep Date: 20 Nov 1997 07:17:28 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <650o68$816$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit {{ I really wanted to post this to .sysadmin as well... not sure which one was better }} The following is my obervations from using a cable modem with a nonturbo NeXT and an Intel. NeXT is running 3.3 and Intel 4.1. I've been running a cable modem since June, and have been very pleased with it. I'd never seen the 5-600 kb/s that they advertize, but that's advertizing, so what the heck. I was getting 30-40kb/s on a bad download, and 100-200kb/s on a really good connection. A friend just got a cable modem in the area. He was seeing 400-500kb/s downloads. Hrm. Odd. Well, his house must have newer wiring than this old apartment (cable wiring). Nope. Someone else in an old apartment getting similarly very much faster speeds. So the cable modem folks came out and checked the connections and the hardware and announced that all was good on that end. My friend came over with his Win95 laptop, plugged in and got much higher speeds than I had ever seen (400kb/s approx avg). Hrm. One of them was running LINUX (Redhat), the other Win95. All using the same Ethernet card. Maybe OpenStep has a bad driver for the Ethernet card, I thought (Intel EtherExpress). Tried it under a Cogent card. No better. I've been toying with FreeBSD. Got it installed and running finally tonight. Got 700+ kb/s on an FTP download from the cable modem ftp site -- previous all-time high had been 300 kb/s. Exact same hardware I am using. Over twice the throughput. Here's where it gets interesting, I think. I got about the same download speeds on my non-turbo slab running 3.3 as I did on my Intel P-133 with 64 RAM and two good Ethernet cards. Since the same hardware was used under a different OS and saw much better results, AND since 2 versions of the OS yielded similar results, I am wondering this: Is there something in the *OS* which is limiting the download speed? If so, is it identifiable so it can be rectified for Rhapsody? LINUX, FreeBSD, and Win95 are all newer and have a ton more man-hours in development behind them than NeXT|Open/Step. I can understand that. I am just concerned that Rhapsody will have some similar problem. With a 28.8 modem you might not care, but with ISDN, cable modems, and further speed enhancements, it will become an issue. I'd love to hear from other cable modem users (especially @Home users) to hear what there experiences have been, esp. multiple OSes under the same hardware. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 20 Nov 1997 07:31:45 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <650p11$f5s$3@brie.direct.ca> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <EJwoGL.6Ms@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) wrote: >ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >: gwong@eecg.toronto.edu (Gilbert Wong) wrote: >: >Hi, >: > >: >Do anyone know if there is any limitation on the kind of modem >: >that can be used for NeXTstation? >: > >: >Gilbert > >: Any external modem (excluding cable modems) should be fine. Just get the >: right cable. Type man zs at the terminal prompt for details. There are a >: couple of vendors that sell them pre-made. > >: I don't know the answer for cable modems. > >I got a cable that was originally for the old MACs. >That one works fine for me. Getting such a cable should be >no problem. I bought mine in the next Apple shop. Benjamin, Most people would say you got lucky using a Mac modem. Must be something to do with different Mac models. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: edwintam@webhk.com (Edwin TAM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.5G harddisk with Open/NEXTSTEP ? Date: 19 Nov 1997 10:03:13 GMT Organization: AT&T EasyLink Services Asia-Pacific Message-ID: <64udh1$mtv$1@m5.att.net.hk> Hi, Recently bought a 4.5G Seagate ST34555W harddisk, OPENSTEP 4.2 installation floppies cannot initialize the disk, neither do the NEXTSTEP 3.3. I have partition it to 2G(NeXT) + 2.5G(DOS) successfully however, both by FDISK or OPENSTEP install floppy. Console show: /usr/etc/disk -i -h pulsar -l "OS4" -d 2089217536 /dev/rsd1a NEXTSTEP partition base = 4803435 NEXTSTEP partition size = 4080510 disk name: SEAGATE ST34555W 0930JK disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label ...lseek returned -1835575808; expected 311907841 Write of boot block 0 failed ...lseek returned -1835510272; expected 311973377 Write of boot block 1 failed Isn't it some kind of overflow error ? Any workaround, please ? Many thanks, -- Edwin --- "Your Christ is a Jew, your car Japanese, your pizza Italian, your democracy Greek, your coffee Brazilian, your holiday Turkish, your numbers Arabic, your letters Latin. And your neighbor is a foreigner? (a German poster)
From: John Appleby <jma24@thor.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT product hierarchy Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:03:02 +0000 Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.971116150104.14985D-100000@hammer.thor.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi people, Is there a website anywhere with all the NeXT product information, rather like I guess www.next.com would have been a couple of years ago. I'm looking into a NeXT computer but I don't know what is what... Thanks, **** John Appleby, They say it's mostly vanity Cambridge University, That writes the plays we act. UK. They tell me that's what everybody knows. Tel.: +44 1223 311105 email: jma24@cam.ac.uk Fax.: +44 1344 22245 www: http://www.mcardiac.demon.co.uk ************************************************************************** Please do NOT send me ANY commercial email. I'm asking nicely.
From: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Date: 19 Nov 1997 11:52:18 GMT Organization: debis Network Services GmbH Message-ID: <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm looking for a PCMCIA-Network adapter (with RJ-45 connector) with NeXTStep 3.3 driver support. I used to buy the Cogent EM595 10Mb PCMCIA Ethernet card, but this adapter doesn't seem to be supported buy Adaptec... ;-( Can someone give me a hint which one to buy? Thanks... ...Ralf -- Ralf Specht Daimler-Benz AG, Research Center Ulm Department of Text Understanding Systems P.O. Box 23 60 89013 Ulm, Germany e-mail: specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM phone: +49 731 505-4123 fax: +49 731 505-4113
From: Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Mouse Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:48:48 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Message-ID: <347423A0.6E09F743@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WTB 1 X working NeXT ADB mouse
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Date: 20 Nov 1997 13:42:50 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <651eoq$75r$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) wrote: > driver support. I used to buy the Cogent EM595 10Mb PCMCIA Ethernet card, > but this adapter doesn't seem to be supported buy Adaptec... ;-( Are you sure? This card is officially supported by NeXT/Apple. It should work with the Intel 82595 driver. Get the NeXTAnswers driver #2164. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tidbit: Cable modems and OpenStep Date: 20 Nov 1997 16:00:49 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Nov20100101@slave.doubleu.com> References: <650o68$816$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-reply-to: nospam@all.please's message of 20 Nov 1997 07:17:28 GMT In article <650o68$816$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: I've been running a cable modem since June, and have been very pleased with it. I'd never seen the 5-600 kb/s that they advertize, but that's advertizing, so what the heck. I was getting 30-40kb/s on a bad download, and 100-200kb/s on a really good connection. A friend just got a cable modem in the area. He was seeing 400-500kb/s downloads. <snip> Maybe OpenStep has a bad driver for the Ethernet card, I thought (Intel EtherExpress). <snip> I've been toying with FreeBSD. Got it installed and running finally tonight. Got 700+ kb/s on an FTP download from the cable modem ftp site -- previous all-time high had been 300 kb/s. Exact same hardware I am using. Over twice the throughput. In my experience on a variety of systems with a variety of operating systems, I've found that NeXTSTEP/OpenStep don't quite keep up. For instance, on a 10Mbit ethernet, NS<->NS can only do 500kbyte/s, while Linux<->Linux can do around 1Mbyte/s. Same seems to hold for 100Mbit ethernet, Linux far outruns NeXTSTEP. This was using ftp and ttcp, with NFS Linux does even better. I also found some interesting things with different 10Mbit NICs. Linux ran NE2000 cards faster than NeXTSTEP did, and NeXTSTEP ran EtherExpressPro cards faster than Linux did. I suspect that this is a pretty broad problem. Your numbers for non-NeXTSTEP seem consistent with what I've seen on my systems, but your NeXTSTEP numbers are worse. I would guess that not all of the problem is in the NIC's driver, some of it is probably in the TCP/IP implementation itself. Best hope is that the BSD4.4 changes will take care of some of that. [Systems I've played with include NeXTstation turbo, Pentium133, PPro200. NICs include NE2000 clone, EtherExpressPro, and EtherExpressPro/100B. Operating systems include Slackware Linux, Redhat Linux, NeXTSTEP, and OpenStep.] Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: david@ucla.edu (David Kurtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip disks don't suck. Was: Apple G# machines -- the bad part... Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:29:51 -0800 Organization: Independent sentient carbon-based unit Message-ID: <david-2011971529510001@s197-254.resnet.ucla.edu> References: <3468595E.90D04939@slip.net> <64bdt9$5ve$2@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu> <3472a100.880283@news.compulink.gr> <347353d2.0@206.25.228.5> <slrn676lh1.pn2.sal@panix3.panix.com> <maury-2011971133480001@199.166.204.230> <slrn678up2.9in.sal@panix3.panix.com> In article <slrn678up2.9in.sal@panix3.panix.com>, sal@panix3.panix.com (Salvatore Denaro) wrote: > I would dump my zip drive if some other media came along with the > following specs: (more or less in order) > > Drive cost is less than $200 > IDE or SCSI (or USB or Firewire?) interface, plug and play set up. > Media cost is lower per Mb, and less than $25 per unit > IO time is as fast as or faster than zip. Much faster is a plus. > Media will fit in a jacket pocket. > Software eject on drive. > Media is easy to send via us mail. Jaz drives almost meet your criteria. Internal Jaz drives go for less than $300. You can Zips in 10-packs for $110, Jaz in 5-packs for $400. Zips have a media cost of $0.11 per meg, while Jaz drives have a media cost of $0.08 per meg. They're roughly the same size as Zip diskettes. If you have files with sizes over ~95 mb, Jaz will be much more useful than Zip. > This has nothing to with NeXT or Mac, lets move it to some other > advocacy group. followups to [comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware] -- David Kurtz * david@ucla.edu * http://www.lightside.net/~david/
From: ahw@egret0.stanford.edu (Arthur Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor On a Sparc 1+ Date: 20 Nov 1997 22:16:23 GMT Message-ID: <652crn$qfg$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> Cc: rpbaum00@pop.uky.edu In <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> Robert Bauman wrote: > I just bought a Sparc 1+ with a cg6 frame buffer. It has an > 13w3 connector on it. I also bought a NeXT 21" monitor I was > hoping to use with it. It also has a 13w3 connect. > > Unfortunately, the monitor is not syncing with the frame buffer > in any modes (text or X). (NeXT model # n4005a) > > Someone told me that the problem may be that the Sparc 1+ may > be putting out composite sync and the NeXT expects to see seperate > sync. Actually the problem is the sun puts the (composite) sync on a sync conductor and the NeXT monitor expects the sync stacked on the green signal. Paradoxically, Sony monitors 1604 made for sun also tolerate receiving their sync on green as well as on the 4th line, so they tend to work with NeXT systems (though one has to tweak the picture size a bit on the inside). Art Walker ahw@egret0.stanford.edu
From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 21 Nov 1997 00:14:46 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <652jpm$ld9$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: chongt@bah.com In <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> Chong Tim wrote: > Hi all, > > Just wanna check what's your opinion on Intel-based machine and also NeXT > black hardware.... which one will you guys suggest? Hard to tell... If you want performance, like compiling etc.... get an Intel system (or for the future, PowerPC) If you want elegance, a complete system, working well, but lacking power when it comes down to brute force, get black hardware. You have to see it to appreciate it. Once you're on it, you're addicted. Believe me. I've got a NeXTcolor turbo slab, and, looking at it, and using it, I just can't believe it's from 1992 (or 3??). It works well and flawlessly. Everything seems to be "in place". No fiddling around. I bought it 6 months ago, and I don't regret it a bit. I know it's old, and a part of computing history, but compared to contemporaries of its time, it kicks ass, and this with style.... So. It depends on what you want to do. If you can bare an ugly piece of shit with power on your desk, get an intel... if you are able to spend some time to wait for things at times....a black slab is just right for you... And you're rewarded with some piece of design and well-being... Anyway, all the best from here Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !!
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 21 Nov 1997 03:20:25 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <652ulp$abq$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <64vtog$t7v$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <650ot8$f5s$2@brie.direct.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <650ot8$f5s$2@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: > Why did you specify the non-turbo NextStation above? Do you have extra > information regarding the turbo models. Are they missing the RJ-45 > connection? I specified it because it is what I have personal experience with. I do not know that there is anything different about the turbo slab from the nonturbo slab as far as the Rj-45 port is concerned. > Is DCHP something to do with dynamic ip addressing? Yes. I believe you get an IP at bootup time. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: 21 Nov 1997 03:21:13 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <652un9$abq$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <19971120181401.NAA03709@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/ziptool.1.0.I.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/misc/ziptool.README TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor On a Sparc 1+ Date: 21 Nov 1997 04:49:34 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <6533su$slt$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <34592299.54A4@pop.uky.edu> <652crn$qfg$1@nntp.stanford.edu> Arthur Walker <ahw@egret0.stanford.edu> wrote: > Paradoxically, Sony monitors 1604 made for sun also tolerate >receiving their sync on green as well as on the 4th line, >so they tend to work with NeXT systems >(though one has to tweak the picture size a bit on the inside). Yup, I did this two weeks ago on the old Sun monitor (GDB-1955) to work on my NeXT Color Turbo non-ADB. Works fine (wont work with the ADB version though, as the sync rate is higher). FWIW, Paulus
From: eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster Compatible on OS 4.2? Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 21:14:05 -0800 Organization: Command-Help Consultants Message-ID: <eharley-2011972114060001@ppp-207-214-149-16.snrf01.pacbell.net> Has anyone gotten a soundblaster compatible sound card working under OS 4.2? Should I even attempt to install it in my intel machine? Just Another Perl Hacker > <slrn678up2.9in.sal@panix3.panix.com> <david-2011971529510001@s197-254.resnet.ucla.edu> Reply-To: burton@capital.net NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup284.518.capital.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0-C-AICK1-2 (Macintosh; U; PPC) David Kurtz wrote: > > In article <slrn678up2.9in.sal@panix3.panix.com>, sal@panix3.panix.com > (Salvatore Denaro) wrote: > > > I would dump my zip drive if some other media came along with the > > following specs: (more or less in order) > > > > Drive cost is less than $200 > > IDE or SCSI (or USB or Firewire?) interface, plug and play set up. > > Media cost is lower per Mb, and less than $25 per unit > > IO time is as fast as or faster than zip. Much faster is a plus. > > Media will fit in a jacket pocket. > > Software eject on drive. > > Media is easy to send via us mail. > > Jaz drives almost meet your criteria. Internal Jaz drives go for less than > $300. You can Zips in 10-packs for $110, Jaz in 5-packs for $400. > Zips have a media cost of $0.11 per meg, while Jaz drives have a media > cost of $0.08 per meg. They're roughly the same size as Zip diskettes. If > you have files with sizes over ~95 mb, Jaz will be much more useful than > Zip. > > > This has nothing to with NeXT or Mac, lets move it to some other > > advocacy group. > > followups to [comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware] > > -- > David Kurtz * david@ucla.edu * http://www.lightside.net/~david/ Jaz drives are OK if you don't mind losing your data on a regular basis. -- George M. Gunderson Vice President, Current Productions Classic Macintosh Enthusiast Co-founder of the site now known as macRelations http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/9404 YOUR source for the innovative Mac Recent Mac Hottest 5 Winner!! Get Mac OS 8 Now! http://www.macos.apple.com/macos8/ Now sold over 2 million copies!
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: 21 Nov 1997 05:38:38 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <6536ou$ign$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <19971120181401.NAA03709@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams (willadams@aol.com) wrote: : Actually, there's a set of software tools to do this (Intel only, last I : checked). You can get to the link for them from the Radical Solutions Zip page, I don't think that's possible. A write-protected disk is one that cannot be written to even if a malicious program with complete system permissions tries to do so pathalogically. The write-protection must be a hardware mechanism in the drive. Does the Zip drive have such a mechanism? ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................:
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel and Black Hardware (was Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT) Date: 21 Nov 1997 06:41:47 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <653afb$c58$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: chongt@bah.com Well, I'll give you my .02 Summary comments: The good news is that `fsck' runs a lot faster on Intel hardware. The bad news is that it runs a lot more often on Intel hardware. I worked with a mono NeXTStation with 16 megs for about 4 years in a networked environment. Then I had my own NeXTstation with 32 meg. I finally got an Intel this April from Bifrost Workstations (www.bifrostworks.com). A P-133 with 64meg, an excellent SCSI controller, monitor, etc etc. I can still remember the WOW when I logged in. The speed difference was incredible. Compiling times through the roof. And Color :-) I have spent the last week and a half tracking down PC gremlins. (This has nothing to do with Bifrost). I've been having problems adding a SCSI HD. Then there was the time my HD decided to be read-only. Then there are the occasions when it decides to say BOOT DRIVE FAILURE... INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND REBOOT which is enough to make you wet yourself. Rebooting has always cured the problem. Then there are the drivers. Enter the wrong driver or the wrong IRQ/DMA and you might find yourself looking at a reinstall (happened to me just the other day). With NeXT hardware you don't get that. You don't have to worry about serial port drivers, you just plug into the serial port. However, you can only run at 38400 (in general, stably), whereas on Intel you can go higher. With NeXT hardware you don't worry about an Ethernet card, you just plug into the port in the back. With Intel you can get higher rates with faster cards, but they don't always give you the advertized rates. With Intel hardware you have choices. What's the old saying? ``With increased flexibity comes increased responsibility'' Something like that. I've got a nice ergo keyboard and a TrackBall, which are much nicer than my NeXT keyboard and mouse. I've got room for 256 meg of RAM. I've got a nice sharp color monitor running in 32 bit color at 1152 x 864 @ 90 Hz. And the performance is way up. When it works, it's much better. But it breaks down more often. It's less stable. Again, I don't mean any of this to imply anything against Bifrost, it's PC hardware. The whole thing is a trade-off, it seems. If you want lower stress levels and ``just works'' functionality in exchange for faster speeds and more options, go with NeXT hardware. If you are willing to lose some sleep and possibly blood (*) go with Intel, get a nice fast Pentium or AMD (not Cyrix!!!), load it with RAM and watch the machine scream its way around your NeXTStation. (*) = blood. Yes really. Carl Edman (who gave me my first NeXTStation) once told me that he could never get into his Intel without bloodying his knuckles. I used to laugh. Now that I have been in and out of the Tower recently, I realized he was right. I'm not sure what it was, but I've cut myself somehow tonight, so I am typing with a bandaid on my right pointer finger, which cuts down 1/4 of my typing fingers :-) PC Hardware is dangerous to your health. Would I buy an Intel, knowing what I know now? Sure. Definitely. But I also make sure I have backups of everything I really care about, just in case. TjL ps -- if you are getting an Intel, make sure you go top-shelf 100% compatible components. By `top-shelf' I mean components you can use or upgrade later on without having to junk the whole thing. SCSI cards and Motherboards especially important. And accept the fact that 2 months after you buy it everything will be much cheaper than when you bought it. -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: "Kwangbo SHIM" <shim@imaginet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: To install OPENSTEP 4.1 on portable Toshiba 440CDX Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:22:22 +0100 Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <653jci$qhn$1@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Bonjour! Subject says all. Install program gives some error messages as following: SCSI drive or CDROM drive not found...... . . . ...sd%d ed%d... boot: Can someone help me? Any suggestion and information will be appreciated!!!! Merci beaucoup!
From: "Roger M. Jones" <rmj@leland.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: External HD & NeXT 4.0 Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:25:10 -0800 Sender: rmj@elaine9.Stanford.EDU Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.971111094924.22542B-100000@elaine9.Stanford.EDU> References: <62h8rp$lfb$1@ralph.vnet.net> <62iai3$1s7$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <62iai3$1s7$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> I am trying to attach an external HD of 9 GB under NeXT 3.2 and am having some problems. Does NeXT 4.0 automatically recognise the drive? (if so I will purchase a copy). Many thanks, -Roger Jones (rmj@leland.stanford.edu)
From: king phil <kingphil@iruletheworld!.disorg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 04:39:23 -0600 Organization: King Phil Cleans Out Fungus, Grease and Slime, Ltd. Message-ID: <653ogd$r5q$2@news.megsinet.net> References: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just a friendly note, Jeffy. Sending binary attachments to non-binary news groups is generally frowned upon. Have a nice day. Jeff Piurek wrote: Sincerely Jeff Piurek > > Email: jeff777@netzone.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Name: vcard.vcf > Part 1.2 Type: text/x-vcard > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for Jeff Piurek
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Message-ID: <EJzt5M.HIK@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:58:34 GMT In article <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) writes: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for a PCMCIA-Network adapter (with RJ-45 connector) with NeXTStep > 3.3 > driver support. I used to buy the Cogent EM595 10Mb PCMCIA Ethernet card, but > this > adapter doesn't seem to be supported buy Adaptec... ;-( > > Can someone give me a hint which one to buy? > We use the Xircom PCMCIA-Card. CE2-10BT/M in a lot of LapTops, It works OK, ther is just one problem in a Toshiba Tecra 740, seems like NFS makes problems, but we did not have time to debug it. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which scanner for NS 3.3 on Intel ? Date: 21 Nov 1997 13:51:43 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <6543lf$1ol$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I want to put a SCSI scanner on NeXTSTEP 3.3 for Intel. Which model and which driver can I use ? For driver I found "Scan.0.91b" and "ScanMaker.app-0.2", but the scanners supported are no longuer available to buy. Maybe a compatible scanner can do the job ? Any tips ? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Non-ADB Mouse symptoms Message-ID: <EJt6A2.Mn.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:58:49 GMT In article <62j8au$p0k@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, <BillLee@cleaf.com> wrote: >Have a non-ADB Color slab. The mouse seems to be having a problem: the cursor >doesn't always move with or even in the same direction as the mouse. Often a >downward movement of the mouse results in the cursor actually going up on the >screen and then back down. On occasion, it will go clear to the top of the >screen and not back down. > >Any suggestions? Hmm, the only time I've seen this is when I tried to wire a Microsoft BusMouse to my non-ADB NeXTdimension. I experienced the same opposing movement, but only on one axis. The other three axes seemed to always move the mouse pointer in the correct direction. All along, I assumed that this was due to the Microsoft Mouse being a higher resolution than the NeXTmouse, or because there are different wirings required for each mouse. Since I only needed the Microsoft Mouse to function while I was waiting for a warranty replacement for my NeXTmouse, I did not investigate further. Either you have a non-NeXT mouse, or perhaps the wiring is flaking out. -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Zip Drive hosed my boot disk Message-ID: <EJt5xv.K4.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <625jf2$m6f@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:51:30 GMT In article <625jf2$m6f@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>, Mark Trombino <mtrombin@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >During the boot sequence, the line "sc: selection failed" was repeated over >and over [...] >[...] Everything looked fine until the part in the sequence where >it says "root at sd0" or something like that. At that point the sequence >printed some error messages about a bad boot block and something about a >front porch being corrupted... Now I'm scared. > >BTW, if anyone can explain what happened here, I would certainly love to hear >it. Although I don't think I'll even let my Zip drive in the same room with >my NeXT machine ever again. In fact, I think I may banish it from my house >entirely :) Mark, I have seen behavior similar to what you describe, but with no Iomega Zip drive. Although there were some oddities with the early SCSI Zip drives (or so I read, at least), I believe that your problem may not be due to the Zip. If you could tell us the manufacturer name and model of your boot drive - the one that was damaged repeatedly - then perhaps I could do my best to explain what happened and why. Please send by email as well. -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for NeXTStation Date: 21 Nov 1997 17:52:04 GMT Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <654ho4$3cs$1@news.duke.edu> I need to get some more memory in my NeXTStation. The faq says I can use parity/non-parity SIMMs, but not to mix them. I'm a little fuzzy on whether I can use 4x3 SIMMs though (the FAQ only mentions 1x8,1x9,4x8,4x9). I need to get 32MB worth and don't want to make a mistake and pay a restocking fee. The model number is ABB00013538 The FAQ is at: Linkname: The NEXTSTEP/OpenStep FAQ -- 5.24 to 5.25 URL: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.104.html Thanks, -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ Happiness, n.: An agreeable sensation arising from contemplating the misery of another. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
From: Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: I buy used computers Arizona Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:37:59 -0700 Organization: Eagle Supply Message-ID: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E38ABA9F46E42D37EAB2305C" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E38ABA9F46E42D37EAB2305C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I buy and sell used computers. If you have an old 486 or better laying around and want turn it into cash. Please E-mail me at jeff777@netzone.com Thanx Jeff --------------E38ABA9F46E42D37EAB2305C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jeff Piurek Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jeff Piurek n: Piurek;Jeff email;internet: jeff777@netzone.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------E38ABA9F46E42D37EAB2305C--
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTStation Date: 21 Nov 1997 23:30:06 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <6555hu$1846$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <654ho4$3cs$1@news.duke.edu> <654km5$gkq$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: >sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) wrote: > > I need to get some more memory in my NeXTStation. The faq says I can > > use parity/non-parity SIMMs, but not to mix them. I'm a little fuzzy on > > whether I can use 4x3 SIMMs though (the FAQ only mentions > > 1x8,1x9,4x8,4x9). I need to get 32MB worth and don't want to make a > > mistake and pay a restocking fee. The model number is ABB00013538 > >If your station is a 25 MHz, you need to buy 8 SIMM 8 bits, 100 ns, 4 MB. >You can use also 9 bits memory or quicker SIMM (< 100 ns). Not quite true as there are some 25Mhz "Turbo" machines that use 72 pin SIMMs. If your station has 30 pin SIMMs then yes buy 8 SIMMs, 8 bits, 100 ns, 4 MB. Otherwise buy four SIMMs, 8 or 9 bit (i.e. parity or non) <= _70_ ns and 1/4/8/16/32MB. NeXT's can't handle SIMMs >32MB - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTStation Date: 21 Nov 1997 18:42:13 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <654km5$gkq$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> References: <654ho4$3cs$1@news.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) wrote: > I need to get some more memory in my NeXTStation. The faq says I can > use parity/non-parity SIMMs, but not to mix them. I'm a little fuzzy on > whether I can use 4x3 SIMMs though (the FAQ only mentions > 1x8,1x9,4x8,4x9). I need to get 32MB worth and don't want to make a > mistake and pay a restocking fee. The model number is ABB00013538 If your station is a 25 MHz, you need to buy 8 SIMM 8 bits, 100 ns, 4 MB. You can use also 9 bits memory or quicker SIMM (< 100 ns). -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Compatible on OS 4.2? Date: 21 Nov 1997 22:14:28 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Message-ID: <655144$f50$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <eharley-2011972114060001@ppp-207-214-149-16.snrf01.pacbell.net> eharley@pacbell.net (Eric Harley) wrote: >Has anyone gotten a soundblaster compatible sound card working under OS >4.2? Should I even attempt to install it in my intel machine? > I have a so called compatible (Guillemot MaxiSound) card which does't work. When asking support from manufacturer, i have been told that "THE ONLY CARD WHICH BEHAVE EXACTLY LIKE A SB16 IS A SB16". From my experience it's not worth the saving. -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome)
From: Preston Holmes <pholmes-SPAM@ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RDR-Intel on Micron hardware? Date: 20 Nov 1997 23:09:37 GMT Organization: UCSD Scripps Inst. of Oceanography Distribution: world Message-ID: <652fvh$1ei$1@news1.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Can anyone confirm whether or not the Micron Millenia desktop series is Rhapsody/Intel compatable? Is there a better newsgroup to ask about Rhapsody/Intel hardware? It seems like all the components match the old Next hardware guidlines, but I'd love to hear of a real world success before plopping down any $$. -Preston -- Preston Holmes Neurobiology Unit Dept. of Neuroscience, UCSD Scripps Institution of Oceanography <http://siolibrary.ucsd.edu/preston/> To send me mail, remove -SPAM from my return address.
From: Chris Villarreal <purpled@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I buy used computers Arizona Date: 21 Nov 1997 17:53:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <34762CC2.D5F6B637@primenet.com> References: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jeff Piurek wrote: > > I buy and sell used computers. If you have an old 486 or better laying > around and want turn it into cash. Please E-mail me at > jeff777@netzone.com > > Thanx Jeff > -------------------------------------------------- STANDARD USENET BONEHEAD REPLY FORM (version 78.7) -------------------------------------------------- (check all boxes that apply) Dear: [ X ] Clueless Newbie [ ] Lamer [ ] Flamer [ ] "Me too"-er [ ] Pervert [ ] Geek [ X ] Spammer [ ] Racist [ ] Fed [ ] Stereotypical AOLer [ ] Freak [ ] Troller [ ] Fundamentalist [ ] Satanist [ ] "Expert" You Are Being Flamed Because: [ ] You obviously don't know anything about the topic at hand [ X ] You are trying to make money on a non-commercial newsgroup [ ] You quoted an ENTIRE post in your reply [ ] You started a long, stupid thread [ ] You continued spreading a long, stupid thread [ ] Your post is absurdly off topic for where you posted it [ X ] Your lack of understanding of the fundamentals is disgusting [ ] You posted a followup to crossposted robot-generated spam [ ] You posted a "test" in a discussion group rather than in alt.test [ ] You posted a "YOU ALL SUCK" message [ ] You posted low-IQ flamebait [ ] You posted a blatently obvious troll [ ] You followed up to a blatently obvious troll [ ] You said "X rules, Y sucks" and gave no support for your lame statement [ ] You said "me too" to something [ ] You make no sense [ ] You made a post yet failed to say anything [ ] Your sig/alias/server is dreadful [ ] You posted a phone-sex ad [ ] You posted a stupid pyramid money making scheme [ ] You claimed a pyramid-scheme/chain letter for money was legal [ ] You are claiming that you know more than Newton, Ohm, Pavlov, etc. [ ] Your margin settings (or lack of) make your post unreadable [ ] You made a baseless assertion [ ] You posted SCREAMING in RANDOM CAPS (OR IN ALL CAPS) for NO APPARENT REASON [ ] YoU tYpEd SoMeThInG lAmE lIkE tHiS [ ] You didn't do anything specific, but appear to be so generally worthless that you are being flamed anyway To Repent, You Must: [ X ] Refrain from posting until you have a vague idea what you're doing [ ] Stop masturbating for a week [ ] Read every newsgroup you posted to for a week [ ] Give up your AOL account [ ] Bust up your modem with a hammer and eat it [ ] Tell your Mommy to up your medication [ X ] Jump into a bathtub while holding your monitor (monitor must be plugged in) [ ] Actually post something relevant [ ] Read and memorize the FAQ [ ] Post to alt.test [ ] Print your home phone number in your ads [ ] Be the guest of honor in alt.flame for a month In Closing, I'd Like to Say: [ ] Blow me [ X ] Get a clue [ ] Get a life [ ] Go away [ ] Grow up [ ] Never post again [ ] I pity your dog [ ] You need to seek psychiatric help [ ] Morons like you give ammo to pro-censorship morons [ ] Yer momma's so fat/stupid/ugly that etc... [ ] Take your gibberish somewhere else [ ] Go back to school and actaully learn something [ X ] Learn how to post or get off the usenet [ ] All of the above
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <EK0D1x.F2t@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:08:20 GMT References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <EJwoGL.6Ms@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> <650p11$f5s$3@brie.direct.ca> Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: : ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) wrote: : >ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: : >: gwong@eecg.toronto.edu (Gilbert Wong) wrote: : >: >Hi, : >: > : >: >Do anyone know if there is any limitation on the kind of modem : >: >that can be used for NeXTstation? : >: > : >: >Gilbert : > : >: Any external modem (excluding cable modems) should be fine. Just get the : >: right cable. Type man zs at the terminal prompt for details. There are a : >: couple of vendors that sell them pre-made. : > : >: I don't know the answer for cable modems. : > : >I got a cable that was originally for the old MACs. : >That one works fine for me. Getting such a cable should be : >no problem. I bought mine in the next Apple shop. : Benjamin, : Most people would say you got lucky using a Mac modem. Must be something to : do with different Mac models. : Darren : www.bcog.org/~dreely There must be a misunderstanding: I am NOT using a Mac modem, just the cable was for the old Macs. I am actually using an old 14.4 modem from Creatix... Regards, Benjamin Hell -- ************************************************** ** Benjamin Hell ** ** ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de ** ** http://coral.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~ben ** ** University of Bielefeld - Germany ** ** Faculty for Linguistics and Literary Studies ** ** Applied Phonetics Section ** ************************************************** Benjamin Hell -- ************************************************** ** Benjamin Hell ** ** ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de ** ** http://coral.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~ben ** ** University of Bielefeld - Germany ** ** Faculty for Linguistics and Literary Studies ** ** Applied Phonetics Section ** **************************************************
From: Spritle <skizm@erols.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I buy used computers Arizona Date: 22 Nov 1997 02:25:38 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <655fr2$d4v$2@winter.news.erols.com> References: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ill sell you my 486/100 PC for $4500 my broken cga monitor is included.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help booting turbocolor station Date: 22 Nov 1997 02:27:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <655fue$rps$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <64r5to$mic$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <19971122011400.UAA03202@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: markm3leit@aol.com In <19971122011400.UAA03202@ladder02.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > My hard drive is on its way to have the OS reinstalllad,as I do not have a copy > of the OS(seems hard to find) The first thing I plan on doing when I get it > back is making a back up probably on a Syquest EZ Flyer,has anyone had any > experiance with these on black hardware? Scott Hess has one, and seems to like it well enough last I heard him mention it... > >> Would anyone offer some suggestions as to backing up the OS? How much space > >> does one need for just 3.3 user? > > >Less than 100 megs. It could easily fit on one EZFlyer. > > Ooops, I guesss I should have asked how much space for NS3.3 user and the demos > and next mail and the apps that come with 3.3,or does the 100 megs include > these? NeXT's Mail.app is definitely part of it. Whether or not it covers the demos I don't know, but I suspect it does. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: rahim <rahim@megsinet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Exception 3 (0xc) at 0x1000373 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:47:01 -0600 Organization: MegsInet, Inc. - Midwestern Internet Services Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971121203735.144B-100000@tabriz.auzeria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When I try to boot from the floppy drive I get the above message. I have a NEXT 68040 slab. There is no os on the machine. I think my floppy is okay because I had the same problem with floppy I made by down loading the image from the FTP site. Any clues? **************************************************************************** .--. __ .--------- Rahim Azizarab / / \( )/ ---- 1925 S. 3rd Ave //// ' \/ ` --- Maywood, IL 60153 // / / : :-- 708-344-6994 // //..\\ rahim@megsinet.net =UU====UU= ***************************************************************************
From: Subir Grewal <hostmaster@bogus-domain.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTStation Date: 22 Nov 1997 05:39:10 GMT Organization: Trill host selection council Message-ID: <655r5u$dkt$2@nnrp1.crl.com> References: <654ho4$3cs$1@news.duke.edu> <654km5$gkq$1@newsfeeds.grolier.fr> <6555hu$1846$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Can I buy the 4x3 SIMMs then? Sorry, maybe I sounded like I knew more than I did. The voices in bestor@cs.wisc.edu's head screamed: : Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: : >sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) wrote: : > > I need to get some more memory in my NeXTStation. The faq says I can : > > use parity/non-parity SIMMs, but not to mix them. I'm a little fuzzy on : > > whether I can use 4x3 SIMMs though (the FAQ only mentions : > > 1x8,1x9,4x8,4x9). I need to get 32MB worth and don't want to make a : > > mistake and pay a restocking fee. The model number is ABB00013538 : > : >If your station is a 25 MHz, you need to buy 8 SIMM 8 bits, 100 ns, 4 MB. : >You can use also 9 bits memory or quicker SIMM (< 100 ns). : Not quite true as there are some 25Mhz "Turbo" machines that use 72 pin : SIMMs. If your station has 30 pin SIMMs then yes buy 8 SIMMs, 8 bits, 100 ns, : 4 MB. Otherwise buy four SIMMs, 8 or 9 bit (i.e. parity or non) <= _70_ ns : and 1/4/8/16/32MB. NeXT's can't handle SIMMs >32MB : - Gareth : --- : Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu : Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor : University of Wisconsin-Madison -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ Inebriate of air am I, And debauchee of dew, Reeling, through endless summer days, From inns of molten blue. --Emily Dickinson
From: Thomas McCarthy <tmccarth@usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Making turbo color boot headless. Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:07:32 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California Message-ID: <346C9364.1346@usc.edu> References: <64i36j$50i@vespucci.advicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Chris Fisher <chris@vespucci.advicom.net> Chris Fisher wrote: > > Will the method used in the FAQ for making older mono stations work fine > on the turbo color ones? Does anyone have any more elegant solutions? I'd > be willing to pay. > > chris > (who couldn't resist buying 4 colour turbos bases from orb) Heck, it's a whole lot easier with color slabs. All you have to do is leave the sound box and keyboard connected and hit the power key. That's it. (In fact, I don't think you even need the keyboard connected, but then you'll have to find another way to turn it on.) I've got two color slabs sitting under my 21" display (what monster that is...I'm surprised the table can hold it). One is connected to the monitor, the other is headless, and I NXHost apps off the headless one to keep from draining the resources of my main machine. The headless slab drives my scanner, which is a real resource hog. And... it just works! Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tom@sumoweb.com
From: bhi1@ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel and Black Hardware (was Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT) Date: 22 Nov 1997 07:14:05 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <6560nt$kkv@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> <653afb$c58$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <654pp3$eck$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <654pp3$eck$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello NeXT/Apple Community: We had fun saving an Orignal Alembic Systems 486 66 this week, it was actually compatible with NeXTSTEP 3.1 and was probably one of the frst Intel Boxes running NEXTSTEP 486 , now with a new drive, controller and power supply , shes dual booting, faxing , printing to a Canon Bubble Jet and Zipping.... yes this was truly an Intel box that was close to equal in speed to a NeXT Box and the noble turtle. As the satisfied customer left , he was chuckling, all the stuff just worked after all of these years, he said he'll be back for the Monster Cube Pentiums .... and I thought to myself cool he left us New Castle Beers and a nice check and sounds like he isn't going to buy a Dell Box geeze thats 3 cases of beer from customers so far this week, I gave a 12 pack to the hot blonde and brunette waitress friends that stopped by from hops in the middle of the night (chum) and they said they would be back.. I told them feel free to bring more women back to help drink this beer .... ... good timing for the football games tomorrow, I'm caught up on shipping , bring on the waitress stampede...what an episode. Regards Rob Blessin On 11/21/97, spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote: >In <653afb$c58$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >> >> Well, I'll give you my .02 >> >> Summary comments: >> >> The good news is that `fsck' runs a lot faster on Intel hardware. >> >> The bad news is that it runs a lot more often on Intel hardware. >> > >This is true. But at least you don't have to wait for spinning wheels >as much when you are running on intel. YMMV > >> I worked with a mono NeXTStation with 16 megs for about 4 years in a >> networked environment. Then I had my own NeXTstation with 32 meg. >> >> I finally got an Intel this April from Bifrost Workstations >> (www.bifrostworks.com). A P-133 with 64meg, an excellent SCSI controller, >> monitor, etc etc. >> >> I can still remember the WOW when I logged in. The speed difference was >> incredible. Compiling times through the roof. And Color :-) > >Just got a P-Pro with Abit PS6 running @ 225 or 75x3. Coming from a ND >Turbo >I felt like I was coming out of the dark ages. IT screams, and rocks.. >Damn solid >too with standard MB settings.. I was tweaking mine very hard to squeeze >performance >from a NXBench of 1.5 all the way up to 6.6.. Yes various hangs etc. along >the way >gave lots of fitscks.. Standard settings are just about as solid as black >now. Performance >improvements more than make up for the occasional hang.. Were I just a >simple >user rather than someone who is constantly swapping cards, MB's, disks, etc. >I'm sure it would be trivial. > >BTW: Installation from a SCSI based setup is a breeze. The only conflicts I >had >were between the PnP ISA cards but they were generally resolvable by leaving >out >the sound card until everything else was installed and putting the Adaptec >off it's >default 0x330 DMA Address.. Which makes for a pain when booting >config=Default.. >That is the only complaint, but not a horrible deal. > >> I have spent the last week and a half tracking down PC gremlins. (This has >> nothing to do with Bifrost). I've been having problems adding a SCSI HD. >> Then there was the time my HD decided to be read-only. Then there are the >> occasions when it decides to say >> >> BOOT DRIVE FAILURE... INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND REBOOT > >I've never seen this, but I have seen wierd stuff on a reboot, or a reset. >Figured it was just power cycling problems.. > >> which is enough to make you wet yourself. Rebooting has always cured the >> problem. >> >> Then there are the drivers. Enter the wrong driver or the wrong IRQ/DMA >and >> you might find yourself looking at a reinstall (happened to me just the >other >> day). > >Once you've installed the drivers you should never have to reinstall. >If you booted your system with config=Default (what happened when you >did your first install) then you can always go back to that and redo your >Configuration settings. Make darn sure you either have a backup or >a bootable disk (Zip or Jaz or MO (my personal favorite)) for recovery. >Backups are a necessity not a luxury.. That is if you have anything on >your system that you'd be pulling your hair out over if your system >wouldn't boot. > >If you play with DOS or Win 95/NT make darn sure you don't overwrite your >Openstep boot block or be prepared to reinstall unless you have a bootable >floppy (this is a problem that I hope Apple solves BTW.. Not to mention >having >fdisk allow multiple Openstep Partitions.. like 3.3/4.2/Rhap etc. on one >disk w/o >having to go through kniptions with Builddisk and disktab. (This should all >be >doable from CD IMHO)) > >> With NeXT hardware you don't get that. You don't have to worry about >serial >> port drivers, you just plug into the serial port. However, you can only >run >> at 38400 (in general, stably), whereas on Intel you can go higher. With >NeXT >> hardware you don't worry about an Ethernet card, you just plug into the >port >> in the back. With Intel you can get higher rates with faster cards, but >they >> don't always give you the advertized rates. > >Please I wouldn't knock intel ethernet over black. They both generally don't >do that well. I suspect something with NeXT's implementation of TCP/IP stack >on mach in 4.3, but it's hard to say.. I always saw slower ftp transfers on >...step >vs. any other OS in general.. But I think Scott Hess has a counter example.. >:) >Also on the serial issue. There are pros and cons to everything.. Luckily I >have >a ISDN TA and a local ethernet LAN so I havn't had to do anything with serial >on x86, or anywhere else for that matter.. PPP installation is still >difficult on >any hardware running ..step anyway. Hopefully this will be solved soon >though (I keep PPP in my thoughts steve ;) > >> With Intel hardware you have choices. What's the old saying? ``With >> increased flexibity comes increased responsibility'' Something like that. >> >> I've got a nice ergo keyboard and a TrackBall, which are much nicer than my >> NeXT keyboard and mouse. I've got room for 256 meg of RAM. I've got a >nice >> sharp color monitor running in 32 bit color at 1152 x 864 @ 90 Hz. And >the >> performance is way up. When it works, it's much better. But it breaks >down >> more often. It's less stable. Again, I don't mean any of this to imply >> anything against Bifrost, it's PC hardware. > >Yeah. Do you have your x86 box on a UPS? Many times stability is directly >related to quality of the Power supply and not just drivers or OS. One >thing >black hardware beats intel on is the robustness of the powersupply to source >fluctuations. And I've seen a black box happily chug along though a drop to >80-90V on a brownout whereas a x86 would drop. > >Also there are a hell of a lot of switches to throw on a x86 box >(particularly in >the BIOS) make sure you spend the time learning what they mean. And if all >else fails start turning off the performance enhancers and see if that >helps.. > >BTW: Omniweb 2.x consistently hangs my P-Pro at any speed with OmniVideo >when I open too many browsers (about 20 I think). So sometimes you just have >to isolate what you were doing to isolate machine flakyness. I'm still not >sure >if it's OmniVideo or OmniWeb, or else.. But I simply watch how many sessions >I have open and I havn't had any problems.. Try running a P-Pro 200 @ 240 >or 68x3.5 or higher and you'll see what I mean :) > >> The whole thing is a trade-off, it seems. If you want lower stress levels >> and ``just works'' functionality in exchange for faster speeds and more >> options, go with NeXT hardware. If you are willing to lose some sleep and >> possibly blood (*) go with Intel, get a nice fast Pentium or AMD (not >> Cyrix!!!), load it with RAM and watch the machine scream its way around >your >> NeXTStation. >> > >I suggest going with x86 you'll get a few more years of real use, and you >can run MS OS's along with linux or Free BSD variants.. It is not hard to >get a stable machine. A general rule is to try to stick with PCI cards >though as my personal feeling is that ISA is where stuff is flaky. Oh and >one other thing. On black you stuck @ Openstep 4.2 as the last version >of the OS. At least on intel you'll get access to Rhapsody. > >> (*) = blood. Yes really. Carl Edman (who gave me my first NeXTStation) >once >> told me that he could never get into his Intel without bloodying his >> knuckles. I used to laugh. Now that I have been in and out of the Tower >> recently, I realized he was right. I'm not sure what it was, but I've cut >> myself somehow tonight, so I am typing with a bandaid on my right pointer >> finger, which cuts down 1/4 of my typing fingers :-) PC Hardware is >> dangerous to your health. > >Really?! Well then you purchased the wrong case. Look for ones that have >a nice slide panel or door giving easy access.. Much better than a Cube >IMHO. >I have a cheap Minmall ATX case that has a sliding panel that I really like.. >Mid tower. About $100 for it with 250W ATX PS... Lots of room! Though my >P6SKE I'm testing wouldn't fit, but that's not a suprise. > >> Would I buy an Intel, knowing what I know now? Sure. Definitely. But I >> also make sure I have backups of everything I really care about, just in >> case. > >Oh please Tim. Come on a black box can gack just as easily as a white one. >Backups are a necessity on any computer since you never know when lightning >will strike.. > >> TjL >> >> ps -- if you are getting an Intel, make sure you go top-shelf 100% >compatible >> components. By `top-shelf' I mean components you can use or upgrade later >on >> without having to junk the whole thing. SCSI cards and Motherboards >> especially important. And accept the fact that 2 months after you buy it >> everything will be much cheaper than when you bought it. >> > >UPgrade???? Tell me how your going to upgrade a SCSI card? Mostly >you'll just get another one later. The only thing that is upgradeable in >any sense of the word is a VRAM or WRAM upgrade on a graphics card >if it supports it. AND BTW: You'll find this almost as expensive as a new >card with the amount of RAM you want to upgrade to when you finally do it. > >I'd put it this way. Get components that you expect to use for the next >6mo's >to a year, at that time when you upgrade you can either pass them down >to your next lowest system, or keep them as spares.. Or at least with the >Millenium cards you can use them both at the same time ;) > > >Randy >rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu > > > -- Best regards: Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 748 Poplar St. Denver , CO 80220 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 or new address and phone numbers starting November 1, 1997 Black Hole, Incorporated 8501 E Grand Ave. Denver, CO 80237 303-741-9998 303-741-9997 Fax http://blackholeinc.media3.net/ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993.
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: 22 Nov 1997 07:46:01 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <6562jp$la8$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <EJwoGL.6Ms@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> <650p11$f5s$3@brie.direct.ca> <EK0D1x.F2t@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) wrote: >ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >: Benjamin, > >: Most people would say you got lucky using a Mac modem. Must be something to >: do with different Mac models. > >: Darren >: www.bcog.org/~dreely > >There must be a misunderstanding: I am NOT using a Mac modem, just >the cable was for the old Macs. I am actually using an old 14.4 >modem from Creatix... Oops. I meant to say: Most people would say you got lucky using a Mac modem cable. Sorry about that. Darren
From: chris@vespucci.advicom.net (Chris Fisher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Making turbo color boot headless. Date: 14 Nov 1997 11:53:23 -0600 Organization: interQuest Online Services -- Huntsville, AL Distribution: world Message-ID: <64i36j$50i@vespucci.advicom.net> Will the method used in the FAQ for making older mono stations work fine on the turbo color ones? Does anyone have any more elegant solutions? I'd be willing to pay. chris (who couldn't resist buying 4 colour turbos bases from orb) -- Machines: nippur (next turbo colour 96m) ur (ipc 32m) kish (ipx 32m) Semi-Rabid TDS/South Park Viewer | Current CD: UK NeXTstep/*BSD*/Solaris/SunOS/OSF/Linux/Ultrix/OS2/WinNTi/VSTa/SCO/etc...
From: "Stephen Coy" <stevec@magna.com.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 Compatible Ethernet drivers? Date: 18 Nov 97 23:58:16 +1100 Organization: Magna Data - Internet Solutions Provider Message-ID: <B097DC1B-70E74@203.111.0.146> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit G'Day, I've just installed the "Rhapsody for PC compatibles" DR release on my PC. Everthing has worked fine, except for the lack of driver support for my ethernet card. Therefore, I'm looking for a source for one. Alternatively, is it possible to adapt a driver from FreeBSD or Linux? Thanks in advance. Steve Coy ****** This message was sent by CyberDog 2.0 ********
From: "Clemmensen" <gclem@frontline-software.dk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: 18 Nov 1997 13:42:44 GMT Organization: ObjectWare, Inc. Message-ID: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> References: <347139CB.F44D84AE@unixg.ubc.ca> Well, you could always mount it read-only. Geert Seamus Dunne <dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote in article <347139CB.F44D84AE@unixg.ubc.ca>... > Hi > > I use a ZIP drive attached to my NeXT 68040 Slab, running NS3.3. > > Does anyone know how to write-lock a ZIP disk so it will be read-only?
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: network mac+next or buy modem? Date: 23 Nov 1997 02:13:38 GMT Message-ID: <19971123021300.VAA01756@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com hello all,is it posssible to network my quadra and next together to access the internet using the modem connected to the mac? since I already have a supra 33.3 on the mac I hope I could do this for about the same cost of a used modem(75.00)and a cable(25.00)and then if in the future I upgrade to a powermac or whatever I could use the powermac as a file server for the next. Can this be done or am I just looney? If yes then I will go bck and read the thread where someones networking a next,powerbook and a laserwriter together. Thanks Again!!I Mark
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP 3.0 and 040 hardware Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 18:51:49 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <3477221e.157536@news.wco.com> References: <646m4n$khu@slip.net> <647jbb$4oi$5@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <649p95$j0r$1@news.xmission.com> <mrb-1411970215430001@dialup11-berkeley.autobahn.org> <64iq7c$gl4$1@ocean.cup.hp.com> <64qp82$1bp$1@news1.ucsd.edu> On 18 Nov 1997 00:58:42 GMT, cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) wrote: >It's really rather simple. When NS1.0 was written, it was coded to work with >the 68030 processor. The need to cope with the way in which stack >information differs between 68030 and 68040 processors was not forseen, >possibly due to the imperfections of the NeXT Crystal Ball Future Hardware >Department. The details of some supervisor mode operations for the 68040 were not finalized in 1987, when the bulk of the kernel work for NeXTSTEP 1.0 was being done. The 68040 differs significantly from the 68030 in certain supervisor mode operations, including details of cache management and page table setup. I really would not want to implement this code without the processor chip (and a good logic analyzer) to test it on. For NeXT to have added significant pieces of code to a shipping kernel, based on a preliminary processor specification, and completely untested, would have been poor engineering practice. Back then, our Engineering schedule and plan called for major releases (1.0, 2.0, etc) to add new software feature sets, and point releases targeted specifically at new hardware (2.0 for NextStation, 2.1 for NextStation Color and the foundation for NeXTdimension, 2.2 for Turbo hardware, etc) >So in general, User-level programs that were written for the 030 continue to >work on the 040, but System-level stuff, from the inital bootstrap on up, >does not necessarily do so. That's correct. Significant effort went into making sure that 68030 programs, particularly those with significant 68881 FPU code, would continue to work. Mike Paquette mpaque AT wco.com (Damn junk-mailers!)
From: mpaque.spa-am@nospam.wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NE2000 Compatible Ethernet drivers? Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 18:52:02 GMT Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <34772493.786706@news.wco.com> References: <B097DC1B-70E74@203.111.0.146> On 18 Nov 97 23:58:16 +1100, "Stephen Coy" <stevec@magna.com.au> wrote: >I've just installed the "Rhapsody for PC compatibles" DR release on my PC. >Everthing has worked fine, except for the lack of driver support for my >ethernet card. Therefore, I'm looking for a source for one. > >Alternatively, is it possible to adapt a driver from FreeBSD or Linux? Congratulations! Unfortunately, there isn't a device driver writing kit (DDK) available right now. The old DriverKit had some room for improvement, and that's being worked on now. Once a driver writing kit is available, it should be easy to adapt drivers from FreeBSD or Linux. Sorry Mike Paquette
From: Chong Tim <chongt@bah.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Help: Generic S3 Virge DX 4M & OpenStep 4.2 Mach Intel Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:10:48 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton Inc. Message-ID: <347790A8.FEBD953E@bah.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Sorry to bother u but I need your help (if you can help), I've have just gotten a S3 Virge DX 4M (it's a generic PCI card) for the OpenSStep 4.2 Mach Intel box that I have. The strange thing is although OpenStep Configure.app detected the card as a S3 Virge card (using Diamond Stealth 3D 2000 PCI-Bus Display Adapter), but once I choose this option, upon reboot I can never see the screen as the screen is dispay at a rong frequency (I think... tried all 60MHz-85Mhz, still the same)... now the best I can get is just using the Generic SVGA driver that allows me 800 x 600 at 2 bit depth. U have any idea? TIA, TC
From: Paul Miglio <pmiglio@mcgh.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 3.3 / Intel / fdisk reports no partitions Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 20:48:02 -0500 Organization: Mount Clemens General Hospital Message-ID: <34778B52.1CADAD2A@mcgh.org> References: <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <64f167$i71$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the info, allthough this and 86,497 other attempts failed. Ghosting the drive appears to be impossible. Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <64dnbc$s83$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > In <3469CD49.22AE@mcgh.org> Paul Miglio wrote: > > > Trying to "GHOST" NeXT 3.3 for Intel on IDE Drive. "GHOST" is > failing > > > becasue no partitions are defined. Why are no partitions > defined? How > > > can I define them. > > > > Because NeXT's lowlevel disk tools suck. > > > > I've spent the last 2 days futzing with them > > Sorry for the incredibly non-helpful reply..... I had gone through > several > (ie dozens) of system panics and manual fsck'ings over the last two > days and > had to spend a lot of time with the commandline disk tools and found > them not > very helpful at all. > > To try and help: you might try hooking the drive to an existing NeXT > machine > and run BuildDisk, which will allow you to setup partitions > graphically. > Otherwise you have to use 'disk' at the commandline. > > TjL > -- > My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is > not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. > This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. > Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: To install OPENSTEP 4.1 on portable Toshiba 440CDX Date: 22 Nov 1997 19:53:47 GMT Message-ID: <19971122195300.OAA25103@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <653jci$qhn$1@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Uh, what sort of SCSI adapter are you using? What kind of CD-ROM drive? Apple/NeXT tech support told me to get an Adaptec SlimSCSI PCMCIA card when I couldn't get the Adaptec in my ThinkPad Dock I to work. Where are you getting to in your installation? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 22 Nov 1997 19:59:13 GMT Message-ID: <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <652jpm$ld9$1@news.rwth-aachen.de> I'll echo what everyone else has had to say: In terms of style, elegance and pleasure to use, NeXT black hardware can't be beat by anything I've had occasion to use. It just works. (to quote Steve Jobs, right?) I'd like to think that an Intel setup could be decent/worthwhile (want to use it on my ThinkPad) and am somewhat confused by the reports of difficulty here in the comp.sys.next groups, and Be's claim that their OS works better on Intel stuff than on PowerPC (perhaps this is a reflection of their machine design?) William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Fred H Biebesheimer" <gunslngr@televar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.0 install problem Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 12:05:50 -0800 Message-ID: <34773af3.0@bartlett> I've been trying to install OS 4.0 on my intel machine. Everything seems to go okay until I'm asked to remove the disk and reboot. The machine goes thru the verbose reboot okay, and then the screen goes black and the world ends. The video card is a Diamond Stealth 3d 3000, installed on an ABIT it5h motherboard with a P166 and 64 megs of ram. Does anybody have any suggestions or comments? Thanks in advance, Fred Biebesheimer. gunslngr@televar.com
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: modem for NeXTstation Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 17:06:34 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.971122170128.13471B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <1997Nov18.210715.14839@jarvis.cs.toronto.edu> <64u2uj$jld$1@brie.direct.ca> <EJwoGL.6Ms@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> <650p11$f5s$3@brie.direct.ca> <EK0D1x.F2t@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> <6562jp$la8$1@brie.direct.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <6562jp$la8$1@brie.direct.ca> On 22 Nov 1997 ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: > Most people would say you got lucky using a Mac modem cable. In my experience, mac modem cables work, but don't provide hardware flow control. I use one with a null modem to connect a VT340 (painted black, of course) to my TurboColor. I've used it to connect to my v.32 (9600 bps) modem before. At <=9600 bps, a mac cable is okay. At anything more than 9600, though, flow control is pretty much mandatory, and hence, a NeXT-specifc cable. -Isaac
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <19598879656442@digifix.com> Date: 23 Nov 1997 05:00:08 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8981880261224@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: "Padraic I. Hannon" <pih@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 14:40:11 -0700 Organization: Aloha Computing Message-ID: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms3A863D13068AAE0255D2FA70" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms3A863D13068AAE0255D2FA70 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------A4F6B3A42CC4D79079D437D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A4F6B3A42CC4D79079D437D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am interested in purchasing an old NeXt machine. My first thought was to look at one of their original boxes, but since I would actually like to use the machine, I figured that a color machine would be best. Upon looking in the forSale newsgroup I got confused with the plethora of configurations and models. Perhaps someone could clarify form me the differences between the NeXt Stations COLOR TURBO, the NeXT CUBEs, and the NeXt Turbo Cube Dimension. 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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: 22 Nov 1997 23:29:28 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: pih@earthlink.net I'll be happy to answer your questions, but please turn OFF the 'vcard' setting in Netscrape when posting to Usenet (or leave it off altogether since it is just annoying to everyone who isn't using it). I'll leave aside my long tirade against Netscape for turning ON several features by default that are unfriendly to the rest of the 'net who isn't using it. > Perhaps someone could clarify form me the differences between the NeXt > Stations COLOR TURBO, the NeXT CUBEs, and the NeXt Turbo Cube Dimension. A NeXTStation is a monitor with a CPU unit that looks like a pizza box (aka ``slabs'') A NeXT cube is a big square cube instead of a pizza box You find this page helpful http://www.computeractive.com/cAi/usedstuff/ A 'turbo' versus a 'nonturbo' means a 33MHZ machine versus a 25MHz one. If you are going for color, make sure you get a turbo. A NeXTDimension is a machine which can have 2 monitors (I believe all ND machines are cubes, but not all cubes are ND machines). The NeXTDimension is actually a card which fits inside the Cube. Other than that I believe it is the same as a regular cube. Prices for cubes are generally higher than slabs. I'd get a NeXTStation color slab at least. A color cube would be next highest up, and then a color ND machine. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
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Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc From: Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Control: cancel <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Message-ID: <cancel.34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Followup-to: junk References: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 01:23:54 GMT Please see http://www.stopspam.org/
From: phillips@nospam.phoenix.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Non-ADB Mouse symptoms Date: 18 Nov 1997 15:55:05 GMT Organization: Charter Communications International, Inc. Message-ID: <64sdop$t52$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> [a lot of snipping] : >Either you have a non-NeXT mouse, or perhaps the wiring is flaking out. : The message does not say what mouse this is. : I had the same problem with a black mouse. Sometimes the cursor did not : move at all. I opened the mouse and could not find anything wrong. : I also tried to borrow other parts from other mouse and this problem : still remains. Then the trick I found is that when this happens, raise : the mouse and twist the ball a bit. It starts working afterwards. The problem I have seen is that the wires break where they come into the mouse, the wires are real small gauge and people bend the wires around the mouse so they are strained there. Get someone who is good at small electronics to take an inch of wire (or so) out. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Creative Vibra 16 PnP sound chipset on a UMAX 6010 Date: 23 Nov 1997 07:23:34 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <658llm$83a$1@ralph.vnet.net> Howdy Folks, Anybody else have a UMAX 6010 running 3.x - 4.x ? It has a Creative Vibra 16 PnP sound chipset on the motherboard. I tried the SoundBlaster 16 PnP driver with it, but it doesn't work. Are there some expert settings to make it work? Thanks, Roland
From: Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Maximum safe storage temperature Date: 23 Nov 1997 07:21:04 GMT Organization: Telf Design Corp. Message-ID: <658lh0$823$1@ralph.vnet.net> Hi Folks, I want to store spare NeXT computers in my attic. Does anybody know what temperature range is OK for a computer which is shut down, being stored in a box? It will get very hot during summer, around 100 F. In winter, I'd be surprised if it got below 50 F. Thanks, Roland
From: Rene Berber <r.berber@computer.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip disks don't suck. Was: Apple G# machines -- the bad part... Date: 23 Nov 1997 07:48:19 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <658n43$rqo$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> References: <3468595E.90D04939@slip.net> <64bdt9$5ve$2@ultranews.duc.auburn.edu> <3472a100.880283@news.compulink.gr> <347353d2.0@206.25.228.5> <slrn676lh1.pn2.sal@panix3.panix.com> <maury-2011971133480001@199.166.204.230> <slrn678up2.9in.sal@panix3.panix.com> <david-2011971529510001@s197-254.resnet.ucla.edu> <34750A27.58CF@capital.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In <34750A27.58CF@capital.net> George wrote: > > Jaz drives are OK if you don't mind losing your data on a regular basis. > Now, now, not everybody is loosing data. My Jaz drive has worked without a glitch for more than half a year connected to a PC/NeXTStep 3.3. Newsgroups are used mostly to solve problems and that means you don't hear much about things that work, unless somebody asks. ---- Rene Berber r.berber@computer.org
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: 23 Nov 1997 07:53:11 GMT Organization: Spontaneous Freelance Network Consulting, UnInc. Message-ID: <658nd7$kdq@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> : : I'd get a NeXTStation color slab at least. A color cube would be next : highest up, and then a color ND machine. : "Color cubes" without a ND board? Please explain... -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted. |ess|erb|unl|u| email: jh|e@h|ie.|.ed| Vote for "citizan" Bob! <http://www.wtv.net/trustee/>
From: "George B. Ameer" <george1@ana.porsa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip Drive hosed my boot disk Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:01:25 -0800 Message-ID: <64slcg$i6p@news0-alterdial.uu.net> References: <625jf2$m6f@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <EJt5xv.K4.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Brian, I have had exactly the same experience. I connected up a Zip 100+ to the SCSI port on the back of my NeXTSTATION, and got basically the same errors. I tried running fsck repeatedly only to get an error "Can't write block ....." followed by a number. I then saw this posting to the group and thought maybe my hard drive might not by hosed as I initially thought. I disconnected the Zip 100+ and booted. It loaded normally. I then VERY Stupidly shut down, reconnected the Zip drive, and tried to boot. AUGH! Same thing as before, front porch error and all. I shutdown, disconnected the Zip and rebooted. This time it stops at "root on sd0 erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U " I have a Seagate ST51080 N hard drive. Any info would be appreciated Brian Willoughby wrote in message ... >I have seen behavior similar to what you describe, but with no Iomega Zip >drive. Although there were some oddities with the early SCSI Zip drives >(or so I read, at least), I believe that your problem may not be due to >the Zip. > >If you could tell us the manufacturer name and model of your boot drive - >the one that was damaged repeatedly - then perhaps I could do my best to >explain what happened and why. > >Please send by email as well. >-- >Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design >Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner >NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate >Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: 23 Nov 1997 03:04:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <658v2i$651@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: nospam@all.please In <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > I'd get a NeXTStation color slab at least. A color cube would be next > highest up, and then a color ND machine. Actually, with prices the way they are, a Turbocolor slab should be the lowest consideration. NeXT's B&W (2-bit) screens actually look better than how you'd imagine a 2-bit screen would look, but if you want color, and want it cheap, a Turbocolor fits the bill nicely. Follow that up with a Cube w/a Dimension board, and finally, a Turbo Cube with a Dimension board. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:38:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <64vpom$8q5@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> References: <347139CB.F44D84AE@unixg.ubc.ca> In article <347139CB.F44D84AE@unixg.ubc.ca>, Seamus Dunne <dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote: > Hi > > I use a ZIP drive attached to my NeXT 68040 Slab, running NS3.3. > > Does anyone know how to write-lock a ZIP disk so it will be read-only? > > Reply please to my email address as well: dogstar@unixg.ubc.ca > > Thanks!! SD Duct tape over that metal thing in the front would probably write protect it, but you might have problems with the read-only part. Mitch
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Any way to use Black mono monitor on Mac or PC Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 17:43:22 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <64vq12$8q5@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Basically, the subject says it all, but I want to use a Black NeXT monitor on a Macintosh or on a PC. Does anyone know if there is any way to do this. I'm not realy converned wiht the sound, microphone. Mitch
From: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com (Henry Koplien) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 23 Nov 1997 14:46:20 GMT Organization: IBM Development Lab. Boeblingen, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> References: <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> In article <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: > I'll echo what everyone else has had to say: In terms of style, elegance and > pleasure to use, NeXT black hardware can't be beat by anything I've had > occasion to use. > > It just works. (to quote Steve Jobs, right?) Sorry these aren't my words. Intel is the choice. Only when I look at the floatingpoint factor of more than 57 the decision is clear. I made my decision for 1.5 year. The best one I ever made. My reason for this was to migrate to a different OS in case Steve Job goes down the drain. Now he is there. When I am not satisfied with the performance of a single processor unit I will switch to linux which supports *in this moment* multi processor mother boards. Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... This should let you better think twice. The best architecture in mind is an Intel if you speek about *universal* Neuman machines, think about it. NeXT is dead. Henry
From: Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 23 Nov 1997 17:59:58 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <659quu$95a$1@winter.news.erols.com> References: <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> Cc: henry@yusei.boeblingen.de.ibm.com In <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> Henry Koplien wrote: > Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will > receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... Take a closer look, A couple of weeks ago, I bought myself a used TurboColor NeXTstation 16/400 with a beautiful 17" Sony monitor and NeXTstep 3.3 installed from DeepSpace for $399. The monitor alone is worth twice that. The hardware is beautiful, reliable, and does everything I need it to without any additional software purchase (thanks Lighthouse). Should NeXTstep vanish and we all find ourselves condemned to Windows, I'll be out $399, but I'll have (at least) a Sony Monitor worth twice that. Based on my experience running NeXTstep on vaious machines, I'd say the day-to-day performance of this system is comparable to an Intel 486/66 box. I imagine you could put together a comparable Intel system for about $1000, and still preserve your precious need to run Windows. That said, if I had $3000 to spend, I'd buy a speedy new Pentium box. For anything less than $1000, I'll take my TurboColor. -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
From: opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.0 vs OS 4.2 Date: 23 Nov 1997 18:11:53 GMT Message-ID: <19971123181101.NAA06716@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com I have a question about OS 4.2. My NeXTstation is running NS 3.0 and I find it difficult to work with. Is OS 4.2 as good as people say it is? I need to run a FTP, Web, and Mail server, off of a dial-up and then it will be on a 10Base-T connection. Does OPENstep have built in server software? Also, how much memory does it suck up, or slow down my machine?
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a 486/dx in your basement? Date: 24 Nov 1997 12:54:33 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <65bte9$is0$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <65b712$9hf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >I'm looking for a el-cheapo-as-possible old system.... doesn't need a monitor >or anything. A case with processor and small HD is all I need. > >If there's an old clunker buried somewhere, drop me a note and I'll explain >why I'm asking. Lemme guess, Tim... your new cable modem? ;-) Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
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From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead monitor (I think) Date: 23 Nov 1997 19:48:33 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <65a1ah$f2j$1@pith.uoregon.edu> Well, my 17" color NeXT monitor seems to have bitten the dust (bummer since I have only had the setup a few months). I just want to make sure that there isn't anything else I need to try before I buy another. I'm broke, so this machine will probably be a headless server for a month or so... Anyway, I woke up this morning and moved the mouse around to make BackSpace go away and nothing happened. So, I turned the monitor on and off. Still nothing. I logged in from another machine and killed BackSPace (in case it was just not responding) with no change. I rebooted the machine, in case it was in some weird state. I unplugged the monitor, left it unplugged for a minute or so and checked the fuse. All seemed ok, but it still doesn't show an image. I also fiddled with the brightness buttons on the keyboard....Any other hopes for saving my monitor? sean ------ Sean Harding School of Journalism and Communication University of Oregon sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: 23 Nov 1997 19:51:45 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <65a1gh$1vp2$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >A 'turbo' versus a 'nonturbo' means a 33MHZ machine versus a 25MHz one. Nope. Turbo refers to the new redesigned motherboard. It has lots of improvements, the most notciable being the 72 pin SIMMs and 128MB max memory. A 25MHz Turbo machine is about 15% faster than a 25MHz non-Turbo. Yes Virginia, there is a 25MHz Turbo. I don't know how many such beasts were ever made but 25MHz Turbos _are_ described in the NeXT Hardware Service Manual, which I have sitting in front of me. >A NeXTDimension is a machine which can have 2 monitors (I believe all ND >machines are cubes, but not all cubes are ND machines). All ND's are cubes but if you put more than one ND card in a cube then you can have up to 4 monitors, each viewing a different part of a global workspace. The ND is a separate card that slides into a cube with an i860 RISC processor, separate memory, frame grabber, video out, etc. Its pretty darn nice watching TV in a window and its VERY fast because the ND board has special circuitry to display video directly to the ND screen and bypasses the CPU altogether (ie no slowdown of other processes at all). >I'd get a NeXTStation color slab at least. I'd start with a NeXTstation Turbo Color - the price difference in nominal and they are much faster. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: "Craig Slorach" <craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Use of Non-NeXT Mice on Machines Date: 24 Nov 1997 14:32:21 GMT Organization: University of Glasgow Message-ID: <01bcf8e4$ae6f6860$dab2d182@craigs-pc.elec.gla.ac.uk> Hi, We have a number of machines here with faulty mice. This may seem a silly question- but can any other types of mice be used (Apple ones ?). Could you please e-mail an answer to craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk as I don't check this group so often. Thanks in anticipation Craig
From: Markee <markee@april.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 23:14:28 +0000 Organization: april Distribution: world Message-ID: <iofLaCAUd2d0EwGf@april.demon.co.uk> References: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com>, Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> writes > Are you having trouble understanding why your computer >seems to be so difficult at times? Do you spend hours night after night > >trying to solve the problem to no avail? Usually these problems can be >solved quite easy and inexpensively. > We have spent many hours working with the same problems > >that you are currently facing. Don't you think that its time to spend Perhaps we could email him with some obscure Acorn problem to solve...Forgot, Acorn's don't have obscure intermittent, problems (but I suppose we can emulate Win95) -- Markee
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64 PIN Slot in NeXTstation?? Date: 24 Nov 1997 17:16:09 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65ccop$cgm$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <19971124024300.VAA02816@ladder01.news.aol.com> opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) wrote: > In my Mono NeXTstation 68040 25MHZ there is a 64 PIN socket. > What is it for??? Cache??? RTFAQ-- it's a slot for expansion memory for the 56001 DSP. For most people, it has no use. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: What is (was) DigitalEar intended for? Message-ID: <EK3upJ.60H@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <EK0MLG.AMv@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:22:31 GMT In article <EK0MLG.AMv@midway.uchicago.edu> tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) writes: > > I remember the DigitalEar(?) was made a few year back for black > hardware. Can anyone give some background info for this product? > This has something to do with the NeXT sound or the DSP... > DigitalEars is a dual channel audio A/D-converter (CD quality?) for the NeXT DSP-port. It's mainly a collectors item by now. -- Peter Nitezki | pnitezki@acm.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail ASCII only # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.0 vs OS 4.2 Date: 24 Nov 1997 17:57:46 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65cf6q$cgm$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <19971123181101.NAA06716@ladder02.news.aol.com> opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) wrote: > I have a question about OS 4.2. My NeXTstation is running NS 3.0 and I find it > difficult to work with. Why? > Is OS 4.2 as good as people say it is? 4.2 is quite decent, although 3.3 might be a better choice for black hardware. > I need to run a FTP, Web, and Mail server, off of a dial-up and then it will > be on a 10Base-T connection. Does OPENstep have built in server software? Both NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP ship with a ftp and a mail server; and some version around there NeXT made Apache (a web server) available. Of course, there are precompiled binaries available, too. > Also, how much memory does it suck up, or slow down my machine? OS seems to require about 10-16 MB more than NS. Your memory requirements are going to depend on what you're doing, of course-- like the CGI scripts (if any) you have on your web server. You're going to want more than 32MB if you go with OS 4.2. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External hard Disk Backup Questions?? Date: 24 Nov 1997 17:51:19 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65ceqn$cgm$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net> nospam@please.net (steven gougi) wrote: > I have installed a Mac- Formatted external hard disk, correctly jumpered > and terminated. > > Pray tell : > How do I format this disk ? I tried doing this with the Disk Initialization > command, only to seemingly reduce it's size from 760Mb, to a paltry 609 Mb! Your disk probably about 760 1,000,000 byte "megabytes", which divided by 2**20 == 1048576, which is a real megabyte, gives you 725 MB. Then, the BSD FFS reserves 10% of that space to prevent fragmentation, which leaves 650 MB. Hmm. That leaves 41 MB unaccounted for-- are there any files installed on that drive (say, if you ran BuildDisk.app)? -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Nick Boden <nick@nboden.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep on HP OmniBook 800CT ? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:35:54 +0000 Message-ID: <3479C90A.12CD@nboden.demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone tried running NeXTstep on a HP OmniBook 800CT ? Please email any advice ! Thanks, Nick Boden
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Compatible on OS 4.2? Date: 24 Nov 97 13:53:58 -0500 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <B09F377F-E13455@141.214.128.36> References: <eharley-2011972114060001@ppp-207-214-149-16.snrf01.pacbell.net > Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Eric Harley" <eharley@pacbell.net> It works with some tweaking. Go into Configure.app and select sound (the speaker icon). Select the Sound Balster 16 PnP (v4.01) driver and go into expert. Select the value under the 'Auto Detect IDs' and set it to CTL0070 rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> <http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #11: "Oh yeah right honey, and I'm the Goodyear blimp. Look! There are letters running across my rear!" -Chris Elliott
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 24 Nov 1997 19:28:25 GMT Message-ID: <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... Please let us know where we can find an Intel machine for 48.00 which if Im not mistaken is the price Deepspace wants for a powersupply.
From: sharding@jcomm.uoregon.edu (Sean Harding) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: another moitor Q. Date: 23 Nov 1997 22:34:21 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <65ab1d$7bd$1@pith.uoregon.edu> OK, I'm pretty sure that my monitor is indeed dead. So, another question: Is it ok to run the machine without a monitor attached at all, or do I need to leave the dead one connected? I'd rather just have the box sitting there if the monitor isn't gonna work anywa. Will this cause problems, on boot or otherwise? sean ------ Sean Harding School of Journalism and Communication University of Oregon sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding/
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there a 486/dx in your basement? Date: 24 Nov 1997 06:32:02 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65b712$9hf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Somewhere out there is someone who has been storing an old 486 that you didn't want to throw away but haven't used and is taking up space your spouse would like back.... I'm looking for a el-cheapo-as-possible old system.... doesn't need a monitor or anything. A case with processor and small HD is all I need. If there's an old clunker buried somewhere, drop me a note and I'll explain why I'm asking. Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: network mac+next or buy modem? Date: 23 Nov 1997 22:41:58 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <65abfm$fg4$2@brie.direct.ca> References: <19971123021300.VAA01756@ladder02.news.aol.com> markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) wrote: >hello all,is it posssible to network my quadra and next together to access the >internet using the modem connected to the mac? since I already have a supra >33.3 on the mac I hope I could do this for about the same cost of a used >modem(75.00)and a cable(25.00)and then if in the future I upgrade to a powermac >or whatever I could use the powermac as a file server for the next. > >Can this be done or am I just looney? > >If yes then I will go bck and read the thread where someones networking a >next,powerbook and a laserwriter together. Nextworking via Ethernet is posible. Need the appropriate hardware on the Mac and the right cable. To connect to the Internet with the Mac so your Next could use it as a router would require software for the Mac that would convert the IP address assigned to the Next over to the Mac IP address and then forward that on. On return of information it would need to convert the IP address back and forward the information to the Next. This is referred to as masquerading. Not being a Mac user, I don't know if this exists for the Mac, and I'm not sure it does for the Next either. What I've done is bought a 25-pin switch box. I've hooked the connections marked A & B to my PC & Next. The third connection is hooked up to the modem. When I wish to use the Next I turn the switch to B. When I use the Intel box I turn the switch to A. Cost of the box & cable was around $40 Canadian. A lot less expensive than getting a second modem. Also my boxes are connected via ethernet so I can share files and print on my Next printer from the Intel box running NS 3.3 or Win95, not to mention from the Next. Good luck with your quest. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: network mac+next or buy modem? Date: 24 Nov 1997 19:56:58 GMT Message-ID: <19971124195600.OAA08308@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <65abfm$fg4$2@brie.direct.ca> .>What I've done is bought a 25-pin switch box. I've hooked the connections >marked A & B to my PC & Next. The third connection is hooked up to the >modem. When I wish to use the Next I turn the switch to B. When I use the >Intel box I turn the switch to A. Looks as if I overlooked the simple solution. But what about the modem cable? Everyone seems to recomend not using a mac modem cable. or do you have it setup that the cable coming from the modem to the box is a next cable and then the other two branching off are either next or mac cables. Just haveing some difficulty picturing the details on how you have it setup. Do I need a driver to use a modem on the next? I hope thats not on obvious question because I was asuuming that I did until I read the folowing TjL wrote: With NeXT hardware you don't get that. You don't have to worry about serial port drivers, you just plug into the serial port. However, you can only run at 38400 (in general, stably), whereas on Intel you can go higher. I have read over the FAQs on peanuts and didnt see this answered. Many Thanks
From: jfoster1@webzone.net Subject: Re: NS running on K6 CPU of AMD? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:03:30 -0600 Message-ID: <880400839.19971@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service References: <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr> Version 3.3 of Next Step has been successfully tested on the AMD K6 series. John Foster www.webzone.net/jfoster1 (for more AMD K6 info) In article <346799DE.648C@telecom.samsung.co.kr>, Ninuko <wjjeon@telecom.samsung.co.kr> wrote: > > Is NeXT STEP available on K6 CPU of AMD? > How about applications? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: EDO SIMMs for black NeXTs?? Message-ID: <EK4G4p.ECJ@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 23:05:13 GMT I just found that I can not catch up with the current technology trend... What is the EDO (Extended Data Output?) memory? What was it designed for and how to take the advantages of them? Can EDO memory be used with black NeXTs and are they better/worse than regular SIMMs? I just could not find a place to store the SIMMs.FAQ... orkspace: Mounted floppy disk at /UpdateExtensions_2.1 #1 Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block a8H retry 1 [more of the same, up to ...] Target 0: MEDIA ERROR; block a8H retry 9 sd0 (0,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x15 SCSI Block in error = 168; Partition a F.S. sector 8 1. Anyone know what the problem is? I have tried the old rom on the new board. I have tried a variety of jumper settings. I have tried fsck -b nnnn /dev/rsd0a [nnnn's from newfs -Nv] 2. Anyone want to sell me a controller board that matches my original one? Or a bad drive with a good controller with rom B3C? [the rom version is displayed early in the boot process] 3. Details shared by both boards: Model XT8760S Series 2 Capacty 760 MB HDA 1015213 Details that differ [these are the originals]: TLA 1098388 B PCBA 1019057 5D Serial 5832141 Rom 1018446 B3C Many thanks ...
From: nospam@please.net (steven gougi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: External hard Disk Backup Questions?? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:32:08 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have installed a Mac- Formatted external hard disk, correctly jumpered and terminated. Pray tell : How do I format this disk ? I tried doing this with the Disk Initialization command, only to seemingly reduce it's size from 760Mb, to a paltry 609 Mb! Having succesfully formatted, how do I make a complete backuo copy of my internal hard disk to the external, without going to the trouble of reinstalling and configuring everything from scratch? Please assist the technically illiterate! Profuse thanks in advance Steven gougi gougi AT slip DOT net
From: nospam@please.net (steven gougi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External hard Disk Backup Questions?? Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 03:43:31 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <nospam-ya023680002411970343310001@news.slip.net> References: <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net>, nospam@please.net (steven gougi) wrote: > I have installed a Mac- Formatted external hard disk, correctly jumpered > and terminated. > > Pray tell : > How do I format this disk ? I tried doing this with the Disk Initialization > command, only to seemingly reduce it's size from 760Mb, to a paltry 609 Mb! > > Having succesfully formatted, how do I make a complete backuo copy of my > internal hard disk to the external, without going to the trouble of > reinstalling and configuring everything from scratch? > > Please assist the technically illiterate! > Profuse thanks in advance > Steven gougi > > gougi AT slip DOT net Apologies - I forgot to add that I'm running NS 3.2 on a Color Turbo Slab. thanks Steven gougi
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tidbit: Cable modems and OpenStep Date: 20 Nov 1997 16:46:07 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <651pgf$hfa$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <650o68$816$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-Reply-To: <650o68$816$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> On 11/19/97, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >I've been running a cable modem since June, and have been very pleased > with it. I'd never seen the 5-600 kb/s that they advertize, but > ... I was getting 30-40kb/s on a bad download, >and 100-200kb/s on a really good connection. >I'd love to hear from other cable modem users (especially @Home users) > to hear what there experiences have been, esp. multiple OSes under > the same hardware. Hi Tim: I've had my home machine (P133 running NS 3.3, Intel EtherExpress ISA netcard) on cable since February. In the fast direction (inbound) I've often seen ftp speeds over 80 kbytes (yes, bytes, not bits) per second. 140 is the alltime record. The cable company's standard performance test is the download of a 5MB file from their cached server, and they say the equipment is OK if this takes less than a minute, which comes out to about 87 kbytes/sec. I have never had my machine fail this test. The modem is a Motrola Cybersurfer. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HP LaserJet 4000 Date: 24 Nov 1997 22:18:33 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <65cufp$2bh@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <65arn5$pki$1@ralph.vnet.net> Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> wrote: >Is anyone using or planning on using one of the new HP LaserJet 4000 >printers with NEXTSTEP and/or OpenStep and/or Rhapsody? If so, please >tell me how easy the configuration was, what the printer is like, and >which OS you're using. I don't have a 4000, but I've used NeXTs with a lot of network PostScript printers, and it's always been a snap. Even network PCL printers aren't bad if you use DPS or GhostScript to RIP the PostScript for you. Currently I'm using HP LaserJet 5SiMXs and an HP Color LaserJet 5M here either directly or through a spooling host from NeXTs running 3.0 and 3.3. At another site, we're driving a buggy Talaris 1794 (not recommended) from a NeXT running 4.2. Can't answer about Rhapsody yet. The 5SiMX is dreamy, and the 4000 sounds like an even better successor. It's like the old HP ads: "What do you think of your LaserJet?" "I don't. I don't ever have to think about it." Works good like a printer should. :-) I like the Color 5M too. Not a dye-sub by any means, but good and fast for spot color and non-critical photos. I do worry that the 4000 doesn't seem to be Adobe PostScript. I'm not certain of that, but that's usually a stopper for me. ab
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: network mac+next or buy modem? Date: 24 Nov 1997 22:36:49 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65cvi1$cgm$11@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <65abfm$fg4$2@brie.direct.ca> <19971124195600.OAA08308@ladder01.news.aol.com> markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) wrote: >> What I've done is bought a 25-pin switch box. I've hooked the connections >> marked A & B to my PC & Next. The third connection is hooked up to the >> modem. When I wish to use the Next I turn the switch to B. When I use the >> Intel box I turn the switch to A. > > Looks as if I overlooked the simple solution. > But what about the modem cable? Everyone seems to recomend not using a mac > modem cable. If you want to go faster than 9600 baud, you need to use hardware flow control. In order to use hardware flow control (also known as RTS/CTS), your cable needs to have those signals connected. Your standard Mac modem cable is configured for RS-232 and does not have the cable wired with the two additional connections for the RTS and CTS signals defined by RS-423. > or do you have it setup that the cable coming from the modem to the box is a > next cable and then the other two branching off are either next or mac cables. > Just haveing some difficulty picturing the details on how you have it setup. The switchbox is a direct 25-pin system: ie, pin 1 on one end goes to pin 1 on the other end, ditto for pins 2 through 25. So you need a 25-pin to 25-pin cable between the modem and the switchbox, a NeXT cable between the NeXT (a DIN-8 connector) and the switchbox (a 25 pin connector). This is the same cable you'd use to connect the NeXT directly to the modem. You'd also need a suitable cable for whatever other machine you have (a Mac, given the subject line?). > Do I need a driver to use a modem on the next? I hope thats not on obvious > question because I was asuuming that I did until I read the folowing The driver required for the Zilog 8530 SCC chip-- the serial controller chip inside a NeXT-- already comes with NEXTSTEP. Just like the drivers for the keyboard, mouse, video system, and so forth are all built-in. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Date: 20 Nov 1997 18:14:00 GMT Message-ID: <19971120181401.NAA03709@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> Actually, there's a set of software tools to do this (Intel only, last I checked). You can get to the link for them from the Radical Solutions Zip page, I believe. (there's a link there from my hardware page) William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there a 486/dx in your basement? Date: 25 Nov 1997 00:23:26 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65d5pu$9k3$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <65b712$9hf$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <65bte9$is0$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <65bte9$is0$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: > No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > >If there's an old clunker buried somewhere, drop me a note and I'll explain > >why I'm asking. > > Lemme guess, Tim... your new cable modem? ;-) Partly.... and partly the fact that my Ethernet card refuses to talk to anyone else, and so my two machines are unconnected. To print a document the other day I had to choose 'print' --> 'save' --> chosen printer/fonts' and then save to a floppy and then pop the floppy in the NeXT, pull up Preview.app, and then print it. Ugh! TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.0 vs OS 4.2 Date: 25 Nov 1997 00:29:07 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65d64j$9k3$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19971123181101.NAA06716@ladder02.news.aol.com> <65cf6q$cgm$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <65cf6q$cgm$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger wrote: > opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) wrote: > > I have a question about OS 4.2. My NeXTstation is running NS 3.0 and I find it > > difficult to work with. > > Why? My guess would be because most of the Internet software in the last few years (Mail.app, ppp, OmniWeb) generally require 3.2 or greater. I could be wrong.... I've been running 3.2 or later since '95 and don't know which apps wouldn't work further back than that. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UMAX, JCIS Date: 25 Nov 1997 00:39:34 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <65d6o6$g81$1@ralph.vnet.net> Is anyone running Rhapsody on either a UMAX or JCIS box? If so, which processor and what else do you have in the box? Any recommendations? It seems that all SCSI is still the way to go for ease of installation and for flexibility. Does anyone feel otherwise? Thanks. Timothy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Mills timothy@acm.org
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: OFFER/HELP: free hardware for salvaged files Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 23:04:40 -0600 Organization: Illinois State University Message-ID: <34727368.7C60552@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <34722C2F.2978@bfwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: bwebster@bfwa.com Bruce F. Webster wrote: > I have files that I'd like to get off of both machines, as well as lots > of files on ODs that I'd like to salvage as well. Try Drivesavers - http://www.drivesavers.com -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Wars CREATE Gov't Bureaucracy. MIME,HTML,NeXT,PGP,SUN Mail ok WASHINGTON, DC -- Warning: The Surgeon General has determined that the U.S. Government is hazardous to your health. Do you know about the health risks associated with repeated dosages of government irresponsibility?! VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: opardalis@aol.com (Opardalis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 64 PIN Slot in NeXTstation?? Date: 24 Nov 1997 02:43:57 GMT Message-ID: <19971124024300.VAA02816@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com In my Mono NeXTstation 68040 25MHZ there is a 64 PIN socket. What is it for??? Cache???
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 23 Nov 1997 21:25:04 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <65a6vg$15q@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <659quu$95a$1@winter.news.erols.com> Robert Lutwak <robert@amo.mit.edu> wrote: >That said, if I had $3000 to spend, I'd buy a speedy new Pentium box. For >anything less than $1000, I'll take my TurboColor. And don't forget: It's still about the coolest looking computer on this planet ... ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP LaserJet 4000 Date: 24 Nov 1997 03:11:55 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <65ar9r$pfl$1@ralph.vnet.net> Is anyone using or planning on using one of the new HP LaserJet 4000 printers with NEXTSTEP and/or OpenStep and/or Rhapsody? If so, please tell me how easy the configuration was, what the printer is like, and which OS you're using. Thanks. Timothy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Mills timothy@acm.org
From: Timothy R Mills <timothy@acm.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP LaserJet 4000 Date: 24 Nov 1997 03:19:01 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. Message-ID: <65arn5$pki$1@ralph.vnet.net> Is anyone using or planning on using one of the new HP LaserJet 4000 printers with NEXTSTEP and/or OpenStep and/or Rhapsody? If so, please tell me how easy the configuration was, what the printer is like, and which OS you're using. Thanks. Timothy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy R. Mills timothy@acm.org
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:07:47 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <347927C3.41C6@de.ibm.com> References: <19971122195901.OAA25573@ladder02.news.aol.com> <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <659quu$95a$1@winter.news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robert Lutwak wrote: > > In <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> Henry Koplien wrote: > > Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will > > receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... > > Take a closer look, > > A couple of weeks ago, I bought myself a used TurboColor NeXTstation 16/400 > with a beautiful 17" Sony monitor and NeXTstep 3.3 installed from DeepSpace > for $399. The monitor alone is worth twice that. The hardware is beautiful, ... Yes, OK. I have a TI 99-4/A (ok to be precise three) at home. I can buy them for $10 if I like to... In other words, I meant a *new* computer not an old one where the power supply sucks after a half year. There is no comment about the pain you get when installing an Intel. But if it runs there is no question about which one is better. I run mine in 1600x1200 in true color (32 b/pix). I never want to look in that peephole von NeXT display again. Henry ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help booting turbocolor station Date: 24 Nov 1997 18:01:30 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SCOTT.97Nov24120113@slave.doubleu.com> References: <64r5to$mic$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <19971122011400.UAA03202@ladder02.news.aol.com> <655fue$rps$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> In-reply-to: nospam@all.please's message of 22 Nov 1997 02:27:26 GMT In article <655fue$rps$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) writes: In <19971122011400.UAA03202@ladder02.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > My hard drive is on its way to have the OS reinstalllad,as I do > not have a copy of the OS(seems hard to find) The first thing I > plan on doing when I get it back is making a back up probably on > a Syquest EZ Flyer,has anyone had any experiance with these on > black hardware? Scott Hess has one, and seems to like it well enough last I heard him mention it... You can definitely make a bootable system on an EZFlyer. In fact, on a single 230M disk, I've got a triple-boot NeXTSTEP3.3, OpenStep4.2, RedHat Linux. The NeXT operating systems are at around 80M, and the Linux around 40M (with the rest gone to overhead of various sorts). So a single NeXTSTEP3.3 installation, no problem. To build one of your own, drop in a disk and run BuildDisk. Then just put the EZFlyer at SCSI ID 0 and boot (I'm assuming you put all other drives at 1 and higher :-). I've done this for both a NeXTstation and an Intel PC. I've never tried building a new system from the EZFlyer disk, but doubt there would be any problems. Keep in mind, though, that you'll have to stage things, since I doubt you can insert another EZFlyer disk while booted from an EZFlyer disk (assuming only one drive). Boot from EZFlyer. BuildDisk.app to build the hard drive. Boot from hard drive. Read all your important info from another EZFlyer disk. On the other hand, I have to question the utility of this. Doing things from CD-ROM is _so_ much easier, and to be honest, it's probably a lot safer. EZFlyers aren't terribly robust compared to CDs. I only have my bootable disk to make things easier, but the CD-ROM is there in case the easy solution doesn't work. Later, -- scott hess <scott@doubleu.com> (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Compleat Demystified Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Alessandro Pistorello <alessandro_pistorello@stratus.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Integrated Crystal audio controller Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:17:09 +0100 Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA Message-ID: <651ur6$dop@transfer.stratus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have purchased a Dell OptiPlex GXi PC and have installed OpenStep 4.2 on it. I am really happy with this system; only have one problem: it has an integrted Crystal CS4236 audio controller, that is supposed to be 100% Sound Blaster compatible. I have tried all the SoundBlaster drivers available on the CD and then looked in NeXTanswers for anything related to Crystal, but without success. Has anybody a suggestion different from purchasing a real Sound Blaster? Thanks in advance
From: wonjlee@earthlink.net (Won Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040/33MHz NextCUBE Date: 25 Nov 1997 05:12:35 GMT Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <wonjlee-2511970019580001@1cust116.max74.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net> I have a rather nice old Cube in excellent condition.The trouble is, I dont't know how to go about making good use of it. These are the specific questions that I have: 1)What is the latest version of os I can install on it? 2)How much will it be and where can I get it? 3)My machine has no cd-rom reader or floppy drive, though it has an optical drive that works fine. Can I install a cd-rom reader so I can install new software that come on cd's? If so, what models are supported? 4)What modems will work with my machine? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. W. Lee
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040/33MHz NextCUBE Date: 25 Nov 1997 08:27:27 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65e25f$e31$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <wonjlee-2511970019580001@1cust116.max74.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: wonjlee@earthlink.net In <wonjlee-2511970019580001@1cust116.max74.new-york.ny.ms.uu.net> Won Lee wrote: > 1)What is the latest version of os I can install on it? OpenStep 4.2... although you may be happy with 3.2 or 3.3 depending on what you want to do.... there are some OpenStep only apps, so if you want those (ie preparing for Rhapsody if you don't have RDR) then OpenStep is the way to go > 2)How much will it be and where can I get it? 1-800-try-next.... It's $300 for the user tools.... developer tools for non academic folks is more than tuition at most state colleges :-) > 3)My machine has no cd-rom reader or floppy drive, though it has > an optical drive that works fine. Can I install a cd-rom reader > so I can install new software that come on cd's? If so, what models > are supported? Does it have a Micro-Scsi port on the back of it? Most any SCSI CD-ROM should work > 4)What modems will work with my machine? Most any.... the cable is the most important thing.... You need a NeXT specific cable... see www.orb.com or www.deepspacetech.com... they run about $25 I like my SupraFaxModem... works with PPP and also NXFax, the now-shareware FAX program for NeXTStep... Not all modems work with NXFax... in fact only a few non-ZyXel modems do TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: "Antonio" <acozzol@tin.it> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,it.comp.hardware,it.comp.hardware.mod Subject: Re: Need 2 mb x Matrox Millenium at low price ............... Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 00:39:42 +0100 Organization: Telecom Italia Net Message-ID: <65d3hh$ph5@everest.vol.it> References: <65d3bv$p7e@everest.vol.it> Antonio ha scritto nel messaggio <65d3bv$p7e@everest.vol.it>... >antsofclub@tin.it > >
From: nospam@please.net (steven gougi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External hard Disk Backup Questions?? Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 04:34:20 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <nospam-ya023680002511970434200001@news.slip.net> References: <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net> <65ceqn$cgm$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > > Your disk probably about 760 1,000,000 byte "megabytes", which divided by > 2**20 == 1048576, which is a real megabyte, gives you 725 MB. Then, the BSD > FFS reserves 10% of that space to prevent fragmentation, which leaves 650 MB. > > Hmm. That leaves 41 MB unaccounted for-- are there any files installed on > that drive (say, if you ran BuildDisk.app)? > > -Chuck > > Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer > ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. Hello Chuck! When I open BuildDisk.app , it shows the External disk as being 699 Mb large, which seems reasonable enough when you take into account the factors mentioned above by yourself .i.e. overhead and reserve. BuildDisk also shows that a large amount of Disk space is taken up by certain "files"...but when I open up the ext disk, no files are visible and the size is shown to be 608 Mb. Strange ...hmmm. Let me add that I have absolutely no qualms about reformatting this disk - If only I knew how, since the Disk Inialization command in the WorkSpace Manager is obviously not doing the job I would like. Primarily I am interested in how one achieves a backup copy of the internal Hard Disk onto an External without going through the process of reinstalling and configuring everything from scratch! Many thanks for your kind reply Steven Gougi gougi AT slip DOT net
From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use of Non-NeXT Mice on Machines Date: 25 Nov 1997 03:23:34 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <65dgbm$qbt$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <01bcf8e4$ae6f6860$dab2d182@craigs-pc.elec.gla.ac.uk> "Craig Slorach" <craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote: >Hi, > >We have a number of machines here with faulty mice. This may seem a silly >question- but can any other types of mice be used (Apple ones ?). Some Next machines use ADB for the keyboard and mouse. For these you should be able to just plug in a Mac resplacement. If you use the second botton on the mouse, then look for a Mac mouse with two bottons. Older Next machines use a non standard connection. Apparently it was close enough to a common PC mouse that you were able to buy one of them and fix it up to use with your Next. I thought it was in the FAQ, but it isn't. The information abou the pins are tho. See: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.toc.html You could try phoning one of the current suppliers of used equipment. DeepSpace Technologies http://www.deepspacetech.com/ Spherical Solutions http://www.orb.com/ Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de (Benjamin Hell) Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Sender: news@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de (News Administrator) Message-ID: <EK7AyK.HIr@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:06:19 GMT References: <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> <EJzt5M.HIK@onevision.de> Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Rechenzentrum Hans Stoeger <hans@onevision.de> wrote: : In article <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> : specht@dbag.ulm.DaimlerBenz.COM (Ralf Specht) writes: : > Hi all, : > : > I'm looking for a PCMCIA-Network adapter (with RJ-45 connector) with : NeXTStep : > 3.3 : > driver support. I used to buy the Cogent EM595 10Mb PCMCIA Ethernet : card, but : > this : > adapter doesn't seem to be supported buy Adaptec... ;-( : > : > Can someone give me a hint which one to buy? : > : We use the Xircom PCMCIA-Card. CE2-10BT/M in a lot of LapTops, It works : OK, ther is just one problem in a Toshiba Tecra 740, seems like NFS makes : problems, but we did not have time to debug it. I am quite happy with the 3COM Etherlink III 3C589C PCMCIA adapter. It works without problems in my IBM Thinkpad 760E and network performance seems to be very convenient. Greetings, Benjamin Hell -- ************************************************** ** Benjamin Hell ** ** ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de ** ** http://coral.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~ben ** ** University of Bielefeld - Germany ** ** Faculty for Linguistics and Literary Studies ** ** Applied Phonetics Section ** **************************************************
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From: Jeff Piurek <jeff777@netzone.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Computer Problems??? Arizona Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:15:38 -0700 Organization: Eagle Supply Message-ID: <34747E4A.928B0D1A@netzone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are you having trouble understanding why your computer seems to be so difficult at times? Do you spend hours night after night trying to solve the problem to no avail? Usually these problems can be solved quite easy and inexpensively. We have spent many hours working with the same problems that you are currently facing. Don't you think that its time to spend your time more productively doing the things you set out to do rather than continuing to wrestle with that computer? Believe me I have been there. And was willing to do anything to make the problem just go away. That is why I started my own business helping other people unlock their computers true potential, rather than constantly trying to fix it.. I have been working on computers since 1990 and have resolved many problems. Mostly in the hardware field. Such as upgrades service and trouble shooting software and hardware conflicts. In a joint effort with my partner Betty who has a vast knowledge in software ranging from Windows, Word, Excel, Access, Quickbooks and more and has solved many problems in the software realm through classes in a corporate setting , as well as a personal one on one basis. I believe that we may be able to help take the edge off your computers problems. So if your have a small business or just indulge in personal computing. Please give us a try when you wake to your next computer nightmare. Our prices are very competitive and non gouging. And believe me, I have been there before and do understand. I am sorry to not offer our services outside the state of Arizona yet. But we are researching it in depth before taking that big step. Thank You for your attention: Sincerely Jeff Piurek Email: jeff777@netzone.com --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jeff Piurek Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Jeff Piurek n: Piurek;Jeff email;internet: jeff777@netzone.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------B2C2E267906B7D094C7B90B6--
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.0 vs OS 4.2 Date: 25 Nov 1997 17:52:09 GMT Message-ID: <19971125175201.MAA17412@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <65d64j$9k3$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Another issue is that NS 3.0 (or 3.1) don't support larger PC drives/media. Also, there are older bugs which are pretty irritating (for example, TIFs being stretched/distorted when printed unless rotated). William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss.@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nos-pam> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Use of Non-NeXT Mice on Machines Date: 25 Nov 1997 18:05:00 GMT Organization: Technische Universitaet Darmstadt Message-ID: <65f40c$4q4$1@sun27.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de> References: <01bcf8e4$ae6f6860$dab2d182@craigs-pc.elec.gla.ac.uk> <65dgbm$qbt$1@brie.direct.ca> ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: >"Craig Slorach" <craigs@elec.gla.ac.uk> wrote: >>We have a number of machines here with faulty mice. This may seem a silly >>question- but can any other types of mice be used (Apple ones ?). ... [newer NeXT hardware uses ADB, Apple compatible mice work] >Older Next machines use a non standard connection. Apparently it was close >enough to a common PC mouse that you were able to buy one of them and fix it >up to use with your Next. I thought it was in the FAQ, but it isn't. The >information abou the pins are tho. See: Yip. I have the wiring info and diagram, if anybody needs it, send me mail (please remove the spamblock first) and I'll forward it to you. However, please note that it only works for *bus* mice, which are hard to come by these days. Alternatively, try to fix the NeXT mice. Most of the times, you are merely suffering a broken cable which can easily be fixed. Sometimes, all that's needed is cleaning the mouse ball and the rollers (remove the black rubbery substance from the rollers - it's not rubber, it's dirt :-). HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:13:25 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MARKM3LEIT wrote: > > Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will > receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... > > Please let us know where we can find an Intel machine for 48.00 > which if Im not mistaken is the price Deepspace wants for a powersupply. We buyed our power supply for 2.5 year in Germany for 600.-DM. At this time this was ~$400. There was only *one* distributer for 2.5 year. And if you read the other postings, I can buy a TI-99 4/A for $10 or less. It is useless to talk about historic computers you will find on a garage auction. One reason why Jobs quits hardware before he quits software too was he wasn't competitive against the others. Same applies for software. If the software would have had a reasonable price... but $5500 for NS3.3? Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: Steve Lang <stevel@odo.austin.apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External hard Disk Backup Questions?? Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 17:46:43 -0600 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <347B6363.E6EFBBD5@odo.austin.apple.com> References: <nospam-ya023680002411970332080001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve You can use "dd" to make full backups of a disk. Becarefull .. Read the man pages on dd. Steve steven gougi wrote: > I have installed a Mac- Formatted external hard disk, correctly jumpered > and terminated. > > Pray tell : > How do I format this disk ? I tried doing this with the Disk Initialization > command, only to seemingly reduce it's size from 760Mb, to a paltry 609 Mb! > > Having succesfully formatted, how do I make a complete backuo copy of my > internal hard disk to the external, without going to the trouble of > reinstalling and configuring everything from scratch? > > Please assist the technically illiterate! > Profuse thanks in advance > Steven gougi > > gougi AT slip DOT net
From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help booting turbocolor station Date: 26 Nov 1997 00:59:00 GMT Message-ID: <19971126005900.TAA26652@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <SCOTT.97Nov24120113@slave.doubleu.com> On the other hand, I have to question the utility of this. Doing things from CD-ROM is _so_ much easier, and to be honest, it's probably a lot safer. EZFlyers aren't terribly robust compared to CDs. I only have my bootable disk to make things easier, but the CD-ROM is there in case the easy solution doesn't work. Well ya know I agree that the CD ROM would be easier...but big problem..no CD and it doesnt seem too easy to obtain(not that Ive really tried).Mtech offred to burn a cd of 3.3 for me but I think that was only if I was purchasing a machine from them,is it possible to do this without buying a machine? what im really curious about is if I can back up the entire hard drive as it came from spehrical solutions.NS 3.3 and mail app, the breakout game, online documentation etc. Thanks for the help and info. Now if that guy with the ez flyer and 8 disks will ever reply back Ill have it made.
From: dhassell@diamond.tufts.edu (David Hassell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound on black hardware Date: 26 Nov 1997 01:14:12 GMT Organization: Tufts University Message-ID: <65ft54$fh9$1@news3.tufts.edu> For some reason, I'm having trouble getting sounds to work on my turbo station running NS 3.0. On bootup, the soundbox beeps when the line about checking sound comes up, but once the system is up, there is no audible beep, and I can't get lipservice to play in Mail.app (it even seems like the buttons are dulled out...but the mic seems to work on record...there is a visual feedback line that moves). In any case, I've checked my preferences and it seems like sound is enabled and the volume turned up. Also, is there supposed to be a sound when you adjust the volume using the keyboard? I can see it move the volume in the prefs, but again no sound. Thanks for any help! - Dave -- David Hassell dhassell@emerald.tufts.edu Tufts Varsity Crew @diamond.tufts.edu Residential Computer Consultant, @eecs.tufts.edu Area Supervisor http://www.tufts.edu/~dhassell/crew.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: What is (was) DigitalEar intended for? Message-ID: <EK0MLG.AMv@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:34:28 GMT I remember the DigitalEar(?) was made a few year back for black hardware. Can anyone give some background info for this product? This has something to do with the NeXT sound or the DSP... Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EK80rE.p2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:23:38 GMT References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <19971120181401.NAA03709@ladder02.news.aol.com> <6536ou$ign$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <6536ou$ign$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu>, Kurt D. Bollacker <kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu> wrote: >I don't think that's possible. A write-protected disk is one that cannot >be written to even if a malicious program with complete system permissions >tries to do so pathalogically. The write-protection must be a hardware >mechanism in the drive. Does the Zip drive have such a mechanism? > Yes, the Zip drive can do this, and people have posted the URLs for the white-only software to get it together. I now have all the docs I need to make a black-friendly app with similar capabilities but haven't had the time to have at it yet. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel and Black Hardware (was Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT) Date: 21 Nov 1997 20:09:07 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <654pp3$eck$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <347310AE.667A770C@bah.com> <653afb$c58$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: nospam@all.please In <653afb$c58$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Well, I'll give you my .02 > > Summary comments: > > The good news is that `fsck' runs a lot faster on Intel hardware. > > The bad news is that it runs a lot more often on Intel hardware. > This is true. But at least you don't have to wait for spinning wheels as much when you are running on intel. YMMV > I worked with a mono NeXTStation with 16 megs for about 4 years in a > networked environment. Then I had my own NeXTstation with 32 meg. > > I finally got an Intel this April from Bifrost Workstations > (www.bifrostworks.com). A P-133 with 64meg, an excellent SCSI controller, > monitor, etc etc. > > I can still remember the WOW when I logged in. The speed difference was > incredible. Compiling times through the roof. And Color :-) Just got a P-Pro with Abit PS6 running @ 225 or 75x3. Coming from a ND Turbo I felt like I was coming out of the dark ages. IT screams, and rocks.. Damn solid too with standard MB settings.. I was tweaking mine very hard to squeeze performance from a NXBench of 1.5 all the way up to 6.6.. Yes various hangs etc. along the way gave lots of fitscks.. Standard settings are just about as solid as black now. Performance improvements more than make up for the occasional hang.. Were I just a simple user rather than someone who is constantly swapping cards, MB's, disks, etc. I'm sure it would be trivial. BTW: Installation from a SCSI based setup is a breeze. The only conflicts I had were between the PnP ISA cards but they were generally resolvable by leaving out the sound card until everything else was installed and putting the Adaptec off it's default 0x330 DMA Address.. Which makes for a pain when booting config=Default.. That is the only complaint, but not a horrible deal. > I have spent the last week and a half tracking down PC gremlins. (This has > nothing to do with Bifrost). I've been having problems adding a SCSI HD. > Then there was the time my HD decided to be read-only. Then there are the > occasions when it decides to say > > BOOT DRIVE FAILURE... INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND REBOOT I've never seen this, but I have seen wierd stuff on a reboot, or a reset. Figured it was just power cycling problems.. > which is enough to make you wet yourself. Rebooting has always cured the > problem. > > Then there are the drivers. Enter the wrong driver or the wrong IRQ/DMA and > you might find yourself looking at a reinstall (happened to me just the other > day). Once you've installed the drivers you should never have to reinstall. If you booted your system with config=Default (what happened when you did your first install) then you can always go back to that and redo your Configuration settings. Make darn sure you either have a backup or a bootable disk (Zip or Jaz or MO (my personal favorite)) for recovery. Backups are a necessity not a luxury.. That is if you have anything on your system that you'd be pulling your hair out over if your system wouldn't boot. If you play with DOS or Win 95/NT make darn sure you don't overwrite your Openstep boot block or be prepared to reinstall unless you have a bootable floppy (this is a problem that I hope Apple solves BTW.. Not to mention having fdisk allow multiple Openstep Partitions.. like 3.3/4.2/Rhap etc. on one disk w/o having to go through kniptions with Builddisk and disktab. (This should all be doable from CD IMHO)) > With NeXT hardware you don't get that. You don't have to worry about serial > port drivers, you just plug into the serial port. However, you can only run > at 38400 (in general, stably), whereas on Intel you can go higher. With NeXT > hardware you don't worry about an Ethernet card, you just plug into the port > in the back. With Intel you can get higher rates with faster cards, but they > don't always give you the advertized rates. Please I wouldn't knock intel ethernet over black. They both generally don't do that well. I suspect something with NeXT's implementation of TCP/IP stack on mach in 4.3, but it's hard to say.. I always saw slower ftp transfers on ..step vs. any other OS in general.. But I think Scott Hess has a counter example.. :) Also on the serial issue. There are pros and cons to everything.. Luckily I have a ISDN TA and a local ethernet LAN so I havn't had to do anything with serial on x86, or anywhere else for that matter.. PPP installation is still difficult on any hardware running ..step anyway. Hopefully this will be solved soon though (I keep PPP in my thoughts steve ;) > With Intel hardware you have choices. What's the old saying? ``With > increased flexibity comes increased responsibility'' Something like that. > > I've got a nice ergo keyboard and a TrackBall, which are much nicer than my > NeXT keyboard and mouse. I've got room for 256 meg of RAM. I've got a nice > sharp color monitor running in 32 bit color at 1152 x 864 @ 90 Hz. And the > performance is way up. When it works, it's much better. But it breaks down > more often. It's less stable. Again, I don't mean any of this to imply > anything against Bifrost, it's PC hardware. Yeah. Do you have your x86 box on a UPS? Many times stability is directly related to quality of the Power supply and not just drivers or OS. One thing black hardware beats intel on is the robustness of the powersupply to source fluctuations. And I've seen a black box happily chug along though a drop to 80-90V on a brownout whereas a x86 would drop. Also there are a hell of a lot of switches to throw on a x86 box (particularly in the BIOS) make sure you spend the time learning what they mean. And if all else fails start turning off the performance enhancers and see if that helps.. BTW: Omniweb 2.x consistently hangs my P-Pro at any speed with OmniVideo when I open too many browsers (about 20 I think). So sometimes you just have to isolate what you were doing to isolate machine flakyness. I'm still not sure if it's OmniVideo or OmniWeb, or else.. But I simply watch how many sessions I have open and I havn't had any problems.. Try running a P-Pro 200 @ 240 or 68x3.5 or higher and you'll see what I mean :) > The whole thing is a trade-off, it seems. If you want lower stress levels > and ``just works'' functionality in exchange for faster speeds and more > options, go with NeXT hardware. If you are willing to lose some sleep and > possibly blood (*) go with Intel, get a nice fast Pentium or AMD (not > Cyrix!!!), load it with RAM and watch the machine scream its way around your > NeXTStation. > I suggest going with x86 you'll get a few more years of real use, and you can run MS OS's along with linux or Free BSD variants.. It is not hard to get a stable machine. A general rule is to try to stick with PCI cards though as my personal feeling is that ISA is where stuff is flaky. Oh and one other thing. On black you stuck @ Openstep 4.2 as the last version of the OS. At least on intel you'll get access to Rhapsody. > (*) = blood. Yes really. Carl Edman (who gave me my first NeXTStation) once > told me that he could never get into his Intel without bloodying his > knuckles. I used to laugh. Now that I have been in and out of the Tower > recently, I realized he was right. I'm not sure what it was, but I've cut > myself somehow tonight, so I am typing with a bandaid on my right pointer > finger, which cuts down 1/4 of my typing fingers :-) PC Hardware is > dangerous to your health. Really?! Well then you purchased the wrong case. Look for ones that have a nice slide panel or door giving easy access.. Much better than a Cube IMHO. I have a cheap Minmall ATX case that has a sliding panel that I really like.. Mid tower. About $100 for it with 250W ATX PS... Lots of room! Though my P6SKE I'm testing wouldn't fit, but that's not a suprise. > Would I buy an Intel, knowing what I know now? Sure. Definitely. But I > also make sure I have backups of everything I really care about, just in > case. Oh please Tim. Come on a black box can gack just as easily as a white one. Backups are a necessity on any computer since you never know when lightning will strike.. > TjL > > ps -- if you are getting an Intel, make sure you go top-shelf 100% compatible > components. By `top-shelf' I mean components you can use or upgrade later on > without having to junk the whole thing. SCSI cards and Motherboards > especially important. And accept the fact that 2 months after you buy it > everything will be much cheaper than when you bought it. > UPgrade???? Tell me how your going to upgrade a SCSI card? Mostly you'll just get another one later. The only thing that is upgradeable in any sense of the word is a VRAM or WRAM upgrade on a graphics card if it supports it. AND BTW: You'll find this almost as expensive as a new card with the amount of RAM you want to upgrade to when you finally do it. I'd put it this way. Get components that you expect to use for the next 6mo's to a year, at that time when you upgrade you can either pass them down to your next lowest system, or keep them as spares.. Or at least with the Millenium cards you can use them both at the same time ;) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu
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From: Jasper Wong <jasperw@iona.com.hk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PCMCIA Network adapter with NeXT-Support... Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:10:35 +0800 Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Message-ID: <347B851A.F53D1AD2@iona.com.hk> References: <64ujti$7h7@news.sns-felb.debis.de> <EJzt5M.HIK@onevision.de> <EK7AyK.HIr@hermes.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Benjamin Hell <ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de> Hi, just curious, how did you manage to get NeXTStep install on TP760E? I have the same computer and I tried to install NS3.3 via Adaptec 1460A SlimSCSI (w/ NEC Multispin 6Xi) but the computer would usually comes to a halt after detection of the SCSI card (in the white bootup screen, after selection of SCSI CDROM/Harddrive). Is there some trick to it? Or am I simply missing something crucial? I have installed NS onto desktop computers quite a few times but this is my 1st time trying to install onto a notebook. Thanks in advance. Jasper wongj@rpi.edu Benjamin Hell wrote: > <stuff deleted...> > > I am quite happy with the 3COM Etherlink III 3C589C PCMCIA adapter. It > works without problems in my IBM Thinkpad 760E and network performance > seems to be very convenient. > > Greetings, > > Benjamin Hell > -- > ************************************************** > ** Benjamin Hell ** > ** ben@spectrum.uni-bielefeld.de ** > ** http://coral.lili.uni-bielefeld.de/~ben ** > ** University of Bielefeld - Germany ** > ** Faculty for Linguistics and Literary Studies ** > ** Applied Phonetics Section ** > **************************************************
From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WANTED: Opinion on swapdisk configuration Date: 27 Nov 1997 00:46:11 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <65ifsj$jkk$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <65i3op$fou$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu In <65i3op$fou$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Satoru Uzawa wrote: > 1. Stay with my main drive and don't add a swapdrive > The drive is IBM DCAS-32160W, 5400 rpm, 8.5ms ave. seek Bad idea. Unless you *never* swap, a swapdrive will always improve performance. Quantum drives have caused at least one NeXTers severe problems TjL -- My FROM address is fake. It does not exist. It never has. It is not even currently possibly real. I'll check back for followups. This is the ``least-worst'' solution to dealing with spammers. Remove spaces luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org
From: dgkauf@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: 14" SVGA Monitor $100 Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 02:58:23 GMT Message-ID: <347cde56.19318686@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> FS: 14" SVGA Monitor Optimum Res/Color: 1024x768/16 bit Manufacturer: "Pixie" Location: Chicago Burbs Price: $100 +shipping Email: dgkauf@ibm.net
From: sabathi_dieter@stekom.com (Dieter Sabathi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Converting mono to color turbo slab Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:45:56 GMT Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria Message-ID: <347be125.2694019@newsproxy.stekom.com> Hi NeXT gurus, I don´t know if this is an FAQ, but what do I need to convert my monostation (non turbo, non ADB) to a color turbostation. Does the turbocolor motherboard fit into my station ?? Do I have to buy a new power supply ??? Tnx for your help Dieter
From: Wonseok Baek <wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu> Subject: Black Monitor problem Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:23:27 -0600 Message-ID: <880585765.1769@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service I recently bought the color turbo slab with black color monitor(SONY). When I booted up the slab , there were two horizontal line(very dim but recognizable), each on upper and lower area of monitor(nearly quater height from top and bottom). So I wonder it's common thing or something is wrong. Anybody can give me advise? I'll really appreciate. Thanks in advance. Wonseok Baek -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Ross Mikalson <nospam@all.please> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maximum safe storage temperature Date: 23 Nov 1997 21:24:06 GMT Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group Message-ID: <65a6tm$aju@hp.cuug.ab.ca> References: <658lh0$823$1@ralph.vnet.net> Roland Telfeyan <roland@telf.com> wrote: >Hi Folks, > >I want to store spare NeXT computers in my attic. Does anybody know what >temperature range is OK for a computer which is shut down, being stored in >a box? > >It will get very hot during summer, around 100 F. In winter, I'd be >surprised if it got below 50 F. > >Thanks, > >Roland Roland: If the attic within which you plan on storing your NeXT boxes is like typical air-spaces engineered into homes in Canada, ie: attic roof not insulated while attic floor is, it might be a good idea to store elsewhere. Engineering indicates temperatures in these spaces can reach in excess of 180 degrees fahrenheit under direct sunlight in summer, varying according to number of vents, and general access to air circulation. -- Roscoe... the High Country Bear Ross Mikalson [mikalsor@cuug.ab.ca]
From: ojohns@faraday.sfsu.edu (Oliver Johns) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RDR-Intel on Micron hardware? Date: 22 Nov 1997 01:45:38 GMT Organization: California State University Sacramento Distribution: world Message-ID: <655dg2$n9r@news.csus.edu> References: <652fvh$1ei$1@news1.ucsd.edu> I can't comment on Rhapsody/Intel, but here is a data point about Micron hardware: I am running OpenStep 4.2 on a Micron Millenia Model M55HIPLUS-P133-MT. Installation was not totally simple because the ATAPI CDROM drive (a Hitachi CDR-7930) built into the unit is not standard enough to work with OpenStep. So, I used an old ISA SCSI adapter card (3COM 3C509B-COMBO) and an old black Sony Next CDROM player to install from the CDROM. That works fine. NextStep3.3 will *not* work well with this box because of a bug in one or both of the Diamond Stealth video card and the Intel chipset. However, NeXT has solved the problem by, I think, OpenStep 4.0 or 4.1, and it is not a problem on 4.2. And, I was even able to get the built-in Soundblaster to blast sound! The unit has a pretty screen, seems fast compared to old Black hardware, and generally does everything I wanted it to do. O.Johns In article <652fvh$1ei$1@news1.ucsd.edu> Preston Holmes <pholmes-SPAM@ucsd.edu> writes: > Can anyone confirm whether or not the Micron Millenia desktop series is > Rhapsody/Intel compatable? Is there a better newsgroup to ask about > Rhapsody/Intel hardware? > > It seems like all the components match the old Next hardware guidlines, > but I'd love to hear of a real world success before plopping down any $$. > > -Preston > > -- > Preston Holmes Neurobiology Unit > Dept. of Neuroscience, UCSD Scripps Institution of Oceanography > <http://siolibrary.ucsd.edu/preston/> > > To send me mail, remove -SPAM from my return address. -- Oliver Johns, Physics Dept. San Francisco State University San Francisco, CA 94132, U.S.A.
From: howardk@iswest.com (Howard Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <101197085318@free-vacation17.com> Date: 27 Nov 1997 01:10:06 GMT Control: cancel <101197085318@free-vacation17.com> Message-ID: <cancel.101197085318@free-vacation17.com> Sender: "VACATIONS" vacation@free-vacation17.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: VACATION-PROMO
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Monitor problem Date: 27 Nov 1997 00:15:12 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65ie2g$bs6$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <880585765.1769@dejanews.com> Wonseok Baek <wbaek01@utopia.poly.edu> wrote: > I recently bought the color turbo slab with black color monitor(SONY). > When I booted up the slab , there were two horizontal line(very dim but > recognizable), each on upper and lower area of monitor(nearly quater > height from top and bottom). So I wonder it's common thing or something > is wrong. Anybody can give me advise? I'll really appreciate. Thanks in > advance. RTFAQ. Those are small wires which are a normal part of a Trinitron tube's aperture-grille. See <URL=http://www.zdnet.com/pcmag/features/monitorsbig/sb-display.htm> for a more complete discussion. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: dmercer@pulsar.wku.edu (Daniel L. Mercer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Specs on NeXT Hitachi 21" Date: 27 Nov 1997 03:48:42 GMT Organization: Western Kentucky Univeristy Message-ID: <65iqiq$rt$1@news.wku.edu> Hullo, I am looking for any and all technical specs on the NeXT 21" monitors produced by Hitachi in 1992 and 93. Refresh rates, vertical and horizontal frequencys and any additional information would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, happy holidays and all that. :-) Dan Mercer
From: Jay Jacobson <nin@goodnet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Boot Hanging Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:47:25 -0700 Organization: GoodNet Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.971126213842.19302B-100000@goodguy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey all. I just installed two additional 4MB SIMMS (for a total of 32MB now) in my NeXT Station Color Slab (original Black hardware). Previously, with 24MB, it would boot fine. Now, it tells me that the 'Ststem Test Failed'. When I go into the ROM Monitor and turn on verbose testing, two problems occur. First, It says that my two new SIMMS are bad, but I just tested them in my Linux box, and they are fine. Secondly, when I try to continue boot-up anyway, it hangs at the point: Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst0 Setting tape block size for /dev/nrst1 Any ideas why it would hang there? In the ROM Monitor, when I look at the Memory Configuration, it tells me that all my old SIMMS (24MB worth) are parity, and my new ones (8MB worth) are not. The configuration is sockets 1-4 = parity, 5-6 = non-parity, 7-8 = parity. From my understanding, I should be able to mix-match patiry/non-parity, as long as it is not mixed within a bank. All SIMMS are 4MB each. Any clues? Please email to jay@good.net. Thanks. ~Jay - J a y J a c o b s o n - ----------------------- - Network Engineer, ISP -- 602.303.9500 -- 888.Good.Net - jay@good.net -- www.goodnet.com/~nin
From: ons@primenet.com Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I buy used computers Arizona Date: 26 Nov 1997 22:23:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <347D0328.70FBCBCF@primenet.com> References: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> <34762CC2.D5F6B637@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Villarreal wrote: > Jeff Piurek wrote: > > > > I buy and sell used computers. If you have an old 486 or better laying > > around and want turn it into cash. Please E-mail me at > > jeff777@netzone.com > > > > Thanx Jeff > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > STANDARD USENET BONEHEAD REPLY FORM (version 78.7) > -------------------------------------------------- > > (check all boxes that apply) > > You took up more band width, with all the crap I just snipped, than he did.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ?Can Zip disk be 'write-protected'?? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKA50A.oow@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 00:50:33 GMT References: <01bcf428$14c11a80$3102cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <6536ou$ign$3@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <EK80rE.p2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <65hbg9$6g3$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <65hbg9$6g3$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please> wrote: > >I would start by contacting the autor of the white version: >wilkie@cg.tuwien.ac.at and see if he would be willing to share the code, or >compile it at least dualfat. Unless there is some endian coding that would >make it not work under black hardware.... > Yes, there are endian issues. I was planning on making both a GUI app and a command-line app that could be called from Tickle Services. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Upgrading to new stylish hardware (and SS Voyager) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 03:53:54 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo My beloved black hardware is getting a little sluggish for heavy graphics work and I'm considering upgrading. Given that I value niftiness highly I'd rather not go for a ho-hum PC, although that would likely be the best bang for the buck. So, I've been considering SPARC hardware. I've always really liked the SS Voyager; can those who've used one under NS 3.3 (or OS/Mach 4.2) say how snappy it feels compared to black, both Turbo and non-Turbo? What about other SPARCs, like 4s or 5s? I gather that prices on compatible systems would be in the $1k-$2k range, used. Keeping in mind that I won't be doing ostensibly compute-intensive stuff (no big FORTRAN jobs for me!) is SPARC hardware a reasonable route? Or should I bite the bullet and buy Intel? Note that the argument that I can always reboot into Windows to play games doesn't mean much since I have our lab's PC for that. ;) Please, no "sell me your black hardware cheap" messages--I'm keeping it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: No-Spam-As-Spam-Is-Evil@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Differences between various NeXt Hardware systems Date: 23 Nov 1997 10:53:16 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6591us$eal$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <3477513A.401CF308@earthlink.net> <657pso$rme$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <658nd7$kdq@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <658nd7$kdq@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse wrote: > : > : I'd get a NeXTStation color slab at least. A color cube would be next > : highest up, and then a color ND machine. > : > "Color cubes" without a ND board? Please explain... Sleep deprivation is adversely affecting my brain. TjL
From: Chris Villarreal <purpled@Spam.this.primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.software.year-2000,comp.software-eng,comp.sources.bugs,comp.sources.testers,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.demos,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.adventure,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.action,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.strategic,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: I buy used computers Arizona Date: 27 Nov 1997 10:56:00 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <347DB3F5.B502665D@Spam.this.primenet.com> References: <34761B57.9DEECDE4@netzone.com> <34762CC2.D5F6B637@primenet.com> <347D0328.70FBCBCF@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ons@primenet.com wrote: > > Chris Villarreal wrote: > > > Jeff Piurek wrote: > > > > > > I buy and sell used computers. If you have an old 486 or better laying > > > around and want turn it into cash. Please E-mail me at > > > jeff777@netzone.com > > > > > > Thanx Jeff > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > STANDARD USENET BONEHEAD REPLY FORM (version 78.7) > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > (check all boxes that apply) > > > > You took up more band width, with all the crap I just snipped, than he did. It had to be said. I don't think the issue is bandwidth, rather advertising in non-commercial newsgroups. -- ********************************************************************** Anti-Spam measures in place. Remove spam.this from my address to reply. Chris Villarreal
From: gerriet@hazel.north.de (Gerriet M. Denkmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading to new stylish hardware (and SS Voyager) Date: 27 Nov 1997 17:13:13 GMT Organization: Oldenburger Informations-Systeme, FRG Distribution: world Message-ID: <65k9n9$vf@voyager.north.de> References: <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > So, I've been considering SPARC hardware. I've always really liked the > SS Voyager; can those who've used one under NS 3.3 (or OS/Mach 4.2) say how > snappy it feels compared to black, both Turbo and non-Turbo? I have a NeXT Cube 25 MHz, 28 MB and a Sparc Voyager, 48 MB. The latter machine is about 30% faster (Benchmark: compile + link cycle). The floppy drive of the voyager does almost work (well, you can use it, but it is a pain), the screen is about 20% smaller (seems like a small difference - but it is noticable smaller) and the voyager is not among the officially supported hardware for NS 3.3. Also I have been informed, Sun does no longer sell it. But it is a nice machine, and I like it even better for not having Intel inside. Gerriet.
From: lal9@po.CWRU.Edu (Larry A. Latson, Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Question: AGP Compatability Date: 27 Nov 1997 20:20:48 GMT Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA) Message-ID: <65kkn2$9rk@alexander.INS.CWRU.Edu> hi all, i am in the market for a new intel PII, scsi, the whole nine yards. so of course i also want an AGP graphics card. does anyone know if OS4.2 supports this? is the driver the same? i don't want to buy a new computer that won't run next. thanks, LL -- "The story of life is quicker than the wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye. Until we meet again." -JimiH
From: alexd@fcs1.comX (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC News, Hardware, and Upgrade Advice page! Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:13:43 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <34f1e286.357884@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking for BREAKING NEWS? FREE upgrade advice and TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? Overclocking information? HARDWARE recommendations? An up-to-date compiled pricelist from around the 'net so you don't get ripped off? TERMINOLOGY definitions and more??? Then visit: http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/ for the ultimate in tech pages. You won't be disappointed, I guarantee it. Alex alexd@fcs1.com ICQ:4334385 http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/
From: alexd@fcs1.comX (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC News, Hardware, and Upgrade Advice page! Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:13:42 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <34efe285.356893@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking for BREAKING NEWS? FREE upgrade advice and TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? Overclocking information? HARDWARE recommendations? An up-to-date compiled pricelist from around the 'net so you don't get ripped off? TERMINOLOGY definitions and more??? Then visit: http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/ for the ultimate in tech pages. You won't be disappointed, I guarantee it. Alex alexd@fcs1.com ICQ:4334385 http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/
From: alexd@fcs1.comX (alex) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC News, Hardware, and Upgrade Advice page! Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:13:42 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <34f0e286.357243@news.erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Looking for BREAKING NEWS? FREE upgrade advice and TECHNICAL QUESTIONS? Overclocking information? HARDWARE recommendations? An up-to-date compiled pricelist from around the 'net so you don't get ripped off? TERMINOLOGY definitions and more??? Then visit: http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/ for the ultimate in tech pages. You won't be disappointed, I guarantee it. Alex alexd@fcs1.com ICQ:4334385 http://www.fcs1.com/alexd/
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Zip Drive hosed my boot disk Message-ID: <EKBsIv.2FA.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <625jf2$m6f@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> <EJt5xv.K4.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <64slcg$i6p@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:16:07 GMT In article <64slcg$i6p@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, George B. Ameer <george1@ana.porsa.com> wrote: >Brian, >I have had exactly the same experience. I connected up a Zip 100+ to the >SCSI port on the back of my NeXTSTATION, and got basically the same errors. >I tried running fsck repeatedly only to get an error "Can't write block >....." followed by a number. I then saw this posting to the group and >thought maybe my hard drive might not by hosed as I initially thought. I >disconnected the Zip 100+ and booted. It loaded normally. >I then VERY Stupidly shut down, reconnected the Zip drive, and tried to >boot. AUGH! Same thing as before, front porch error and all. I shutdown, >disconnected the Zip and rebooted. This time it stops at "root on sd0 > erase ^? intr ^C kill ^U " >I have a Seagate ST51080 N hard drive. >Any info would be appreciated We still need more info from you before anyone can help. You did not mention the SCSI ID of your internal drive or the ZIP. Did you check to make sure they weren't the same? That will surely damage data on a SCSI drive. You also did not mention termination. Is the internal drive terminated? Is the ZIP drive terminated? What sort of termination power is used by all devices on your SCSI bus? -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: brianw@sounds.wa.com (Brian Willoughby) Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Message-ID: <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Organization: Sound Consulting, Bellevue, WA, USA References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 22:46:04 GMT In article <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com>, Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote: >MARKM3LEIT wrote: >> >> Take a closer look, for the price of power supply for a NeXT you will >> receive an Intel *complete* computer with the performance of a NeXT... > [...] > One reason why Jobs quits hardware before he quits software too >was he wasn't competitive against the others. Same applies for software. >If the software would have had a reasonable price... but $5500 for >NS3.3? There is a wide range in the various computer markets that exist today, and that existed six or ten years ago. NeXT lost their competitive hardware price, but that doesn't mean that they never had the advantage! In 1991, I looked at high-end systems like the NeXTdimension and the Silicon Graphics IRIS RISC machines. Although SGI had the same DSP chip and other similarities to the NeXT, the NeXT was cheaper. Also, SGI charged over $3,000 (that's 1991 dollars) for their development environment, and their technical support staff could not tell me if that would allow DSP development as well as RISC. It turns out that SGI does not support DSP development, but NeXT does, and it was free. At the time, I knew little about the NeXT, but SGI had quite a reputation. I decided to buy the NeXTdimension because it was cheaper and provided more capabilities. Although the NeXT video was not as fast as SGI's advanced high-speed video bus, at least the NeXTdimension started with 24-bit true color. The equivalent upgrade to make a 24-bit SGI (over the standard 8-bit) was nearly double the price of a NeXTdimension, and still lacked audio features that I wanted. It wasn't until years later that NeXT lost the hardware battle. I believe this was because their team was too small to continually beat the more established SGI and Sun hardware teams. The $5,500 price tag that you complained about is not really that bad compared to SGI's development environment price of $3,000 in 1991. It merely reflects that NeXT had finally earned the same level of respect that SGI had in 1991, and I think that NeXT earned it given how they are still years ahead of every other development environment. There were students and others of us who did not like the $5,500 price tag, but that doesn't mean that it was not a price that the market expected (and I'm talking about the high-end market, not the cheap, commodity computer market that churns out lame Intel clones). -- Brian Willoughby NEXTSTEP, OpenStep, Rhapsody Software Design Sound Consulting Apple Enterprise Alliance Partner NeXTmail welcome Macintosh Associate Apple is the registered trademark of Apple Computer, Inc. and Apple Records
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Upgrading to new stylish hardware (and SS Voyager) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EKC97L.72n@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 04:16:33 GMT References: <EKADHu.9n4@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <65k9n9$vf@voyager.north.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <65k9n9$vf@voyager.north.de>, Gerriet M. Denkmann <gerriet@olis.north.de> wrote: > >I have a NeXT Cube 25 MHz, 28 MB and a Sparc Voyager, 48 MB. The latter >machine is about 30% faster (Benchmark: compile + link cycle). ... >But it is a nice machine, and I like it even better for not having Intel >inside. > Thanks for the information. From what you and others in private email have said the Voyager (and other SPARC hardware) is only worth it over Intel if you can get a good deal on them. I may also wait to see what the Monster Cube project produces. Any more info or opinions always appreciated. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 08:11:41 +0100 Organization: IBM HD MicroCode Message-ID: <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Brian Willoughby wrote: > ... > There is a wide range in the various computer markets that exist today, > and that existed six or ten years ago. NeXT lost their competitive > hardware price, but that doesn't mean that they never had the advantage! True. ... I am working for a computer company since one year. Now I have the insight of what man have to do to become a leader or to be competitive. You can't stay, if you stay you are dead. This was one reason why Jobs struggled with the hardware. 1991 he had the best hardware. 1993 not. The software is (I hope it still holds for the others reading this posting) the best. But if you look at the price ratio it is not competitive. And Apple will miss the train if they can't attend with multi processor capability, high single processor performance and and and... The success of a computer, and if it is the only output of a company, is forced with availablity of software, backward compatibility and so on. To peek into the hardware market you must sell your hardware as a gift, and this often doesn't work, look at Texas Instruments 1983. In my eyes Jobs fault was to quit the Intel market with NeXT-Step/OpenStep. Why can't he sell his OS for $100? Henry -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ snail mail : Henry Koplien, HD Micro Code Development, IBM 71032 Boeblingen/Germany \|/ voice : +49-7031-16-3516 o(O O)o fax : +49-7031-16-3328 \^/ -------------- Ihh-Mehl: Koplien@de.IBM.com --ooOo---(_)---oOoo---
From: oohboagn@funny.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: $$ GET RICH WITHOUT WASTING TIME OR MONEY! $$ Date: 28 Nov 1997 07:40:12 GMT Organization: InnerX Message-ID: <65lsgs$66m@buck.innerx.net> MAKE A FORTUNE-AND THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE TRUTH! IF YOU HAVE READ THIS FAR, YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN IT WORKS!! Would you be interested in making thousands of dollars quickly and legally using the World Wide Web? If your answer is YES, then take five minutes to read this article. It will change your life. You can make up to or more than $50,000 in 4-6 weeks, maybe sooner! I'M NOT JOKING AND THIS IS ABSOLUTELY NOT A SCAM! THIS IS A SERVICE AND IS A 100% LEGAL BUSINESS OPPORTUNITY WHICH IS COVERED IN TITLE 18, SECTION 1302 AND 1342 OF THE POSTAL AND LOTTERY LAWS. The Internet has grown tremendously and it continues to double in size every 4 months. Think about it: You see all those "make.money.fast' posts more and more often. That's just simply because it works!! I was browsing around my newsgroups one morning and I stumbled across this article. Since I have this burning desire to make a lot of money and this headline caught my attention, I read it. As I was surfing the net, I read all these postings on how you can make over $50,000, even $800,000. Well I believe that if all goes well, and you follow the rules EXACTLY, it will work. Just follow the instructions given in this letter, and you to can make over $800,000, perfectly legally according to USA Post Office Laws (read on for specifics). Don't look at this as a money - making scam, but rather a true-to-life Example to test the above statement. It will only cost you $5 dollars plus 5 stamps, and a few hours of your time. Thus, there is some effort involved, because nothing in life is absolutely free. Are you ready and willing to accept that you deserve to receive a fair amount of money? If so, please continue reading. It said that you send $1.00 to each of the five names on the list. You then place your own name and address stated in the article at the bottom of the list at the #5 position and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups (there are literally thousands of them, and this doesn't take as much work as you think.) At first I thought, nobody's going to do this. And then I thought, what if they DO! Besides, what's five bucks anyway? That can't even buy a decent lunch. Well, it's still hard to believe…but two weeks later I began receiving bucks in the mail! I mean a lot of money!!! It not only works for me, but it works extremely well for others as well. Mike Ochoa says he made $35,382 in one month!! Joe Chanter made $42,000 in four weeks!!! Dave Manning made an incredible $53,664 in four short weeks! And Lars Myers says he only made $21,000 (ONLY??!!) That's the article. Now do I know all these people? No. But when I read how they did it, it started to make a lot of sense to me. As a matter of fact, it made enough sense that I'm now taking a similar chance with five measly dollars of my own. Not a huge investment that I can't afford to lose, but one with incredible potential to deliver money to my mailbox. Can you imagine making $20,000 or more for less than an hour's work? What are you making now? All you ever have to spend is five bucks and postage for the envelopes. That's all Mike, Dave, Joe and Lars did and look what happened to them: They made tens of thousands of dollars in a safe, legal and completely legitimate way. Let me show you how and why this works now. Also, make sure you print a copy of this article so you get the information from it and START MAKING MONEY NOW!!! Here goes: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each sheet of the paper, "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST". Fold a U.S. $1 bill inside each paper (wrap the bill with the paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope. Otherwise nosy people, who like to steal envelopes with money in them will see the bill and swipe your profits.) Put one paper inside an envelope and seal it. Do the same for all five. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper and a U.S. dollar bill stuffed inside of the paper. You're not just sending a dollar to someone; you're actually paying for a legitimate service which is PERFECTLY LEGAL! Now, mail all 5 envelopes to the following addresses: 1. A. Curtin 24 Semton Blvd. Franklin Square, NY 11010 2. TEB 228 Wetzel Street Weirton,WV 26062 3. DAVID B. 228 Wetzel Street Weortpm. WV 26062 4. R.H. Box 320 Lamesa, Texas 79331 5. Travis Dominey 802 Briarwood St. Victoria, TX 77904 Step 2 Now remove the top name from the list that you see above and move the other names up (#5 becoming #4, #4 becoming #3, and so on) and put your name and address as the fifth on the list. Step 3 Post/send the amended article (with your name at #5 in the list) to at least 200 newsgroups. This is the REALLY IMPORTANT part, so don't try to shortcut it. I'll explain more about this under the WHY it works part. (You can also send by I.R.C. or e-mail). Post/send as many newsgroups as possible. REMEMBER THIS!!! The more groups you send/post to, the more people will see your article and send you cash. That's the real power of this business. You are now in business for yourself, and you should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days!! HOW TO POST THIS ARTICLE: If you have Netscape 3.0 do EXACTLY the following: 1. Click on any newsgroups like normal, then click on "TO NEWS" which is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This will bring up a box to type a message in. 2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, just CHANGE the SUBJECT to something flashy, such as "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" OR "FAST CASH"!! 3. Tab once and you should be ready to post. Cut and paste this article exactly as it appears, except insert your name at #5, and Remove #1 off the list, plus any other small changes that you might think you need to make. Keep most of it the same though. You don't want to change it too much—it's proven to work just as it is written! 4. When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE. IN THIS BOX, right above send, now where it says NETSCAPE NEWS on the first box, click and SAVE AS when you're under FILE. Save your article as a text file to your C or A drive. Do not send your article until you do this. Once saved, move on to number 5 below. 5. If you still have all of your text, send or post to this newsgroup now by clicking send, which is right below FILE, and right above cc: 6. Here's where you're going to post all 200. OK, click on any news group then click on "TO NEWS" again in the top left corner. Leave the newsgroups box alone again, put a flashy subject title in the SUBJECT BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the message, and then click on ATTACHMENTS. You will get another box to come up. Click on ATTACHED FILE, and then find your file that you have saved earlier; click once on the file, and then click OPEN. NOW CLICK ON. OK; if you did this right, you should be able to see your name in the attachments box and it will be shaded green. 7. That's it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in a different newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT newsgroups, you see? Now you only have 199 more left to go!! (Don't worry, each one takes about 30 seconds once you get used to it) REMEMBER THE MINIMUM IS 200. You are now in the mail order business and will start receiving your envelopes from various people all over the world within days. HINT: The more newsgroups you post to, the more money you will make. Incredibly simple, isn't it? LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORKS!! Out of every 200 postings, let's say I only receive 5 replies, which is VERY LOW. So I made $5 with my name at #5. I've already made my money back! Now then, each person who just sent me $1 makes 200 postings, now with my name at #4, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 1000 POSTINGS, not including your own. Say 50 people send you $1 now, which again is a very low response rate; That's $50 you made! Now then, your 50 new agents post 200 listings each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 3, or 10,000 postings (25 X 200). That's just how the system works at its worst case. However, the average return is 500 responses at $1 each. That's $500 in your pocket. Each of your new agents makes 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which is $5,000. And finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with YOUR NAME AT #1, YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000 BEFORE YOUR NAME DROPS OFF THE LIST, AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES 200 POSTINGS ONLY, AND WITH ONLY A 5 PERSON RESPONSE RATE!!!! When your name is no longer in the list, you just take the latest posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and send out another $1 to the five people on the list, putting your name at #5 again. And start posting again. The thing to realize is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, just like you are right now!! So, can you afford $5 and see if it really works? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday. REMEMBER: Work this fairly and honestly and it will work! The basic idea is for everyone to make money. Good luck to all who participate.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <65lsgs$66m@buck.innerx.net> Control: cancel <65lsgs$66m@buck.innerx.net> Date: 28 Nov 1997 09:24:38 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.65lsgs$66m@buck.innerx.net> Sender: oohboagn@funny.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Tysvær pedsenter" <pedsent@robin.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What ISDN cards (Intel) go with 3.3? (longish) Date: 28 Nov 1997 18:07:12 GMT Organization: Tysvær kommune elevdatamaskin Message-ID: <01bcfa98$edb3fc60$751e13c2@wingate.robin.no> I'm ashamed to admit it, but my uptime is now greater in both Linux and Windows95 than in NeXTStep. The group appalled: "50 lashes with the old MOD drive adapter cable." Well, I've strayed, but NS is still on my machine and still the OS I show when I have guests ("you won't beleive this..." "MS has nothing close..") and everyone oohs and aahs then go home to their booring Win95 machines longing for NeXTStep. Unfortunately I find the aging software on NeXT a problem, as well as file compatibility (well it's no problem printing to PostScript file then to GhostScript on PC or reboot, start Win95, run Adobe Distiller to get PDF file, then on to floppy, then to work, then to printer via PDF viewer.) But really, its much simpler (and uglier, I know) just to start Win95 and use Word, bring the Word file (still editable!) to work and print out directly. If they had listened to me the whole building would be running NeXTStep, but they didnt... My new PalmPilot will talk to Linux and to Win95, but (AFAIK) not to NeXTStep, another minus if I want to keep everything in sync... O.k., enough excuses. I'd really like to use my NeXT more, and am putting in 2 ISDN lines in my house. Thus this question. There are several bundles including ISDN lines, ISDN telephone and ISDN internal (card) modem, either the TeleS 16.3 or a 3com sportster ISDN 128k. Are any of these (or maybe other) cards supported under NS? I searched through NextAnswers and looked at the hardware FAQ without finding mention of anything (except the by now very old and outdated Hayes ISDN extender). Anyone running ISDN PPP/NFS on a White NS box? Mail me! Regards (please cc: a copy to my email), Thor -- NeXTStep, Linux, Wi...
From: Chuck Swiger <cswiger@blacksmith.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maybe stupid q: Intel or Black NeXT Date: 28 Nov 1997 17:36:01 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <65mve1$hv5$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <659fjs$r0u$1@mc01.hw.boeblingen.ibm.com> <19971124192800.OAA05972@ladder01.news.aol.com> <347A7A95.2781@de.ibm.com> <EKBtwt.2MH.0.scream@sounds.wa.com> <347E6EAD.41C6@de.ibm.com> Henry Koplien <koplien@de.ibm.com> wrote: [ ... ] > In my eyes Jobs fault was to quit the Intel market with > NeXT-Step/OpenStep. Why can't he sell his OS for $100? Oh, god. Go do a DejaNews search on the NeXT newsgroups for the term "royalties". The short answer is that NeXT would lose money and go out of business trying to sell NEXTSTEP for less than their educational price, because they owe various other companies-- eg, Adobe for the DPS license-- money for evey copy of NEXTSTEP sold. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <347f5ac8.0@news.futureone.com> Control: cancel <347f5ac8.0@news.futureone.com> Date: 28 Nov 1997 23:57:04 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.347f5ac8.0@news.futureone.com> Sender: alta2@usa.net Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: <unknown@unknown.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A Great Christmas Gift for Her!! Only $78.00 Date: 29 Nov 1997 00:21:38 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <65nn6i$jtu$9749@winter.news.erols.com> Please visit http://members.tripod.com/~DannyHatt/index.html for details.. Happy Holidays
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From: Cosmo Roadkill Jr. <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <171197125233@vacations-14.com> Control: cancel <171197125233@vacations-14.com> Date: 29 Nov 1997 07:26:18 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.171197125233@vacations-14.com> Sender: "FREE" free@vacations-14.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Simon Rabe-Hesketh" <simon@moonlite.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Diamond Viper 330 Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:58:54 -0000 Message-ID: <880535112.6727.0.nnrp-07.9e9848e2@news.demon.co.uk> Anyone know if support is coming for the Diamond Viper 330 (nVidia 128) graphics card ? Simon.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8981880261224@digifix.com> Date: 30 Nov 1997 04:59:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12245880866021@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: nospam@please.net (steven gougi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Printer Settings ?? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 09:17:44 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <nospam-ya023680003011970917440001@news.slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Pleez pleez do a test print "a" with your working NeXT Color Printer and tell me if the "Current Settings" match mine. They are as follows: Printing Mode = Mode -A Interface = SCSI Busy Timing = BSY-ACK Ack Width = 0.5 Micro SCSI ID# = 3 Country Code = English Media Select = Normal Paper Color = Black Condensed = Off Line Length = 8 Inches Character set = Graphics Table Auto LF = Off CR Code = Not Print Character Pitch = 10 cpi Page Length = 11 Inches Font = Roman International = USA DC1/DC3 = Enable For some obscure reason I get a single line of characters on every page until the paper runs out. I must have one of the above setting incorrectly configured> If you have any experience in this field ...Please assist. TIA gougi AT slip DOT net (remove upper case and insert punctuation)
From: Gael Foulon <gfoulon@reed-oip.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: COMPAQ compatible model Date: 26 Nov 1997 12:25:06 GMT Organization: Reed-OIP Message-ID: <65h4f2$bll$1@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Is there someone who have install OpenStep 4.x on a classic and standard COMPAQ model like a Deskpro 2000 or 4000, without any problem (or if any please which one ?). I think now, drivers on OpenSTep CDRom should be compatible to support standard station like COMPAQ, but I need to be sure of that, thank you fro your help. I can't find the certified systems list which was accessible before on the next website only some certified configuration with some 486 ou Pentium from 1995... Thank you for your answer and your help about this subject. -- Gaël FOULON - Reed OIP 11, rue du colonel Pierre Avia - BP 571 75726 PARIS Cedex 15 - FRANCE Tel : 33 1 41 90 48 07 * Fax : 33 1 41 90 47 39 Email : gfoulon@reed-oip.fr
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