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From: sroller@txpsmc.seanet.com (Steve Roller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help regarding Modem Cable for a 040 Cube Date: 1 May 1997 00:15:33 GMT Organization: Seanet Online Services, Seattle WA Message-ID: <5k8nb5$fb@q.seanet.com> References: <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> Cc: jspears@weston.com In <01bc4da8$d497e4a0$115a68ce@jspears.onramp.net> "Wes Spears" wrote: > If you have one or know where I can pick one up, please let me know. <snip> Hi Wes, Visit: http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution6.html Then call somebody to build it for you. I called Diane at Cables to Go 1-800-826-7904 and asked her to build several for our Puget Sound NeXT Users Group. She charged only $12 per cable! Their web site is http://www.cablestogo.com Steve Roller ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Stephen V. Roller <sroller@roller.seanet.com> Stop by and visit at: Puget Sound NeXT Users Group http://www.seattle.net/~nextpsug/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Replacement Mouse. Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 21:23:23 -0400 Organization: LEI, Corp. Message-ID: <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Color TurboNeXT Station has adb connectors for the mouse and keyboard. My mouse was rudely taken apart by one of my kids and the ball retainer is missing. I need to get a replacement mouse or trackball to install some software I am expecting tomorrow. No telling where that piece is. Since it is adb, can I get a Apple replacement for my box? And also does apple keyboards work with an adb NeXT? I am curious on this one. I don't have any friends with a Mac to borrow a rodent from (if the apple mouse would do the job). I will have to get a replacement NeXT mouse though. Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 From: hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Sender: news@ucl.ac.uk (Usenet News System) Message-ID: <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 13:25:44 GMT References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> Organization: UCL Dept Mech Eng In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox <pmaddox@ridgecrest.ca.us> writes: |> What Apple does not seem to have, however, is the crucial third piece |>of the computer puzzle-- applications. In order to |>make their new strategy compelling to the average consumer, Apple needs |>the support of developers to make office tools, |>games, and other applications that take advantage of this great hardware |>and OS. Without this support, and a large measure of |>it, Apple will go nowhere. Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a corporate image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming strategy. -- /** Java G <hammond_g@meng.ucl.ac.uk> * Virtual Reality ROV Docking Planner * http://www.ucl.ac.uk/~zcemm23 * You broke the light, and now... it's dark. */
From: darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu (Darryl L. James) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound card help Date: 1 May 1997 01:59:28 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5k8te0$hph@ttacs7.ttu.edu> I have purchased a P200 Pro that has a Soundblaster Vibra 16 PnP sound card. I am running NS 3.3 and can't get the card to be recognized while booting NS. The plug-n-play recognizes the card before giving the NS boot option. Does anyone know if this card is supported with the drivers listed on NextAnswers? This card (Vibra) is a card made by creative labs for oems, but it is not a card they sell to the public. Any help is greatly appreciated. -- Darryl ________________________________________________________ Darryl L. James darryl@thermal.me.ttu.edu Mechanical Engineering NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail Texas Tech University http://www.osci.ttu.edu/ME_Dept/ ________________________________________________________
From: Rich@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: All writers seeking publication Date: Wed, 30 Apr 1997 22:59:19 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5k90te$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Now*accepting <new> and <previously published> writers for publication. We are a NEW=YORK based international literary agency with three offices: 2 in NEW=YORK and one in <FLORIDA.> <Please follow guidelines for submission:> For ALL fiction, including screenplays for TV & Movies: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope=S.A.S.E. Short Stories: Send brief synopsis, 3 pages, S.A.S.E. Poetry: Send 3 poems, S.A.S.E. For ALL nonfiction: Send us a <brief synopsis>, the first chapter, and include a S.A.S.E. Do not send complete manuscript unless invited. <WOODSIDE=INTERNATIONAL=LITERARY=AGENCY> <Thirty Three Twenty Nine 58 St.> <Wood-Side, New York> <zip: 1.1.3.7.7> <(Tel)=={718}=651=8145>
From: "Chris" <cea@thenet.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTK: Color Turbo Video Date: 1 May 1997 04:30:40 GMT Organization: Thenet Message-ID: <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> If any one out there knows the pinouts of 13W3 Video signal for NX Color Turbo or Nx Dimention. I could shure use it. Regards Chris Please E-MIal cea@thenet.net
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can I put an 040 motherboard into a 030 cube? References: <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net> <E9F8Hq.CMs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <33681cf8.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 1 May 97 04:32:56 GMT In article <E9F8Hq.CMs@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >In article <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Another way of asking the same question is : >>are the mother connectors in the 030 cube the >>same as those for an 040? >> > > Yep. Just stick it in and away you go (after removing the '030 board first, >unless you want to do surgery on the backplane.) > >-- >David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca >Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ >University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer >Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual Depends from what machine you obtained your 040 board. A NeXTStation 040 board does not fit a cube. A cube 040 board can simply plug in in place of the 030 board. Good luck. david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 10:56:50 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970501105259.27499A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> On Wed, 30 Apr 1997, Rudolf B Blazek wrote: > The NeXT answers seem to say that you need exactly 70ns SIMMs (and that > is what we did), but when removing the original memory that was put there > by NeXT, it was 60ns, if I remember correctly. > > Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real > problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > > But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > > Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what > I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into > troubles. > > I don't want 70ns SIMMs, but I'd get them if that was the only safe way. > > Thanks. > > Rudy > blazek@stt.msu.edu > OK, I brought home 8 RAM sticks, 4x70ns and 4x60ns. I tried to combine them in all possible ways. The SIMMs got recognized as either 60ns or 70ns, depending if any 70ns chip was present. I did also some (not very precise) measurements of the speed and all configuration seemed to work as fast as the others. I was using NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB. Thus, I think that most likely the version of the motherboard matters. I am sure that my motherboard is pretty new (ADB machine). So, what I said before seems to be wrong, at least for this machine. Good luck to all. Rudy.
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 30 Apr 1997 20:28:41 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.24 / Apr 16, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rainer Hubovsky wrote in <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> on 1997-04-30 00:42:11 +0200: > What do you think? Should I spend a little more money, buy an Intel and be > on the save side or is it OK to take the AMD? I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 1 May 1997 15:37:48 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> I've been using NS3.3 on an AMD 120MHz 486 since it came out and am very happy with it. Compiled lots of stuff, no problems. Don't know about the K5 or K6. Babak Juergen Grieb writes > Rainer Hubovsky wrote > > What do you think? Should I spend a little more money, buy an Intel and be > > on the save side or is it OK to take the AMD? > > I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. > When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. > I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486.
From: computer gebruikers vereniging <cgv@hvision.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 20:15:17 +0200 Organization: Home Vision Message-ID: <3368DDB5.DDE@hvision.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="help.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="help.txt" Please pelp me to repair my conner CFA540A Hard disc drive! By making contact to the frame of my computer 2 components of the printboard where blown out. I like to replace them, but i dont have the electric manual. The parts are of the type SMD and have no technical information printed on top of them, so i can't replace them unless i have the specifications. Can you help me width a copy of the electric documentation, or do you know where to find them? Thanks. Ad Mutsaers cgv@hvision.nl
Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 15:01:54 -0600 From: Rene Berber <rberber@spin.com.mx> Subject: Jaz Disks Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <862516338.2930@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service To fellow jaz disk owners: There have been several recent postings to this newsgroup regarding faulty jaz disks and/or hardware. As pointed out by heikki ketola (Re: JAZ Drive on a 68K NeXT), there is a recall from IOMEGA that affects disks manufactured between certain dates. Quoting from IOMEGA: "If the date falls within the period March 13, 1997 (03 13 97) to April 20, 1997 (04 20 97) AND the letters and numbers below the date end with "MS" the disk should not be used and must be replaced." The manufacturing date is laser-etched in the back of the disk. For more information: http://www.iomega.com/company/news/newsjaz/jazdisk.html Hope this helps, ------ Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: kelley@mudpot.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need new monitor for color NeXT station Date: 1 May 1997 14:38:12 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5ka9sk$k0o@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> hi. we had a 17" monitor on a color (non-turbo) NeXT station. well, the monitor is dying fast. i went through my usual tech person and they just dont fix these NeXT monitors anymore. can anyone tell me (email preferred) how to get a NeXT OR non-NeXT replacement (what works on a color slab???)? any help will be greatly appreciated! kelley wittmeyer dept of atmospheric science colorado state university
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:36:50 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123418.26749B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've gotten 2 of them now from CDW, and they both have two thin (ie one pixel) lines that go the entire width of the screen... one is about 3/4" from the top and another is about the same distance from the bottom. Anyone else seen this and / or know what causes/fixes it? It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a pretty perfect monitor... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Damned pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 17:35:24 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-0105971735240001@97.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123418.26749B-100000@kira> > I've gotten 2 of them now from CDW, and they both have two thin (ie one > pixel) lines that go the entire width of the screen... one is about 3/4" > from the top and another is about the same distance from the bottom. > > Anyone else seen this and / or know what causes/fixes it? > > It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a > pretty perfect monitor... > Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to alligh the aperture grille? Mitch
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 1 May 1997 22:16:44 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In article <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu>, Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> wrote: > > > >Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real >problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > >But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > >Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what >I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into >troubles. > On my Color Turbo Station: - 70ns by itself, recoqnized as 70ns - 60ns by itself, recoqnized as 60ns, ran as fast as the 70ns - install the two speeds together, recognized as 70ns system runs well, no problem at all. Go figure, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 16:23:25 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501161944.24483A-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123418.26749B-100000@kira> <mitchell.allen-0105971735240001@97.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <mitchell.allen-0105971735240001@97.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net> On Thu, 1 May 1997 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > > It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a > > pretty perfect monitor... > > > Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to > alligh the aperture grille? Sadly yes it seems to be afeature, designed to give better color and clarity... life is a trade-off... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 1 May 1997 23:53:15 GMT Organization: FreedomNet - Your Full Service Internet Provider Message-ID: <5kbadb$5do$1@news.freedomnet.com> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> "Rainer Hubovsky" <hubovsky@ci.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: >Hello! > >I want to buy a new processor but I'm not sure which one to take. >The two alternatives I'm considering are an Intel Pentium 200 MMX and an >AMD K6 200. >The AMD is cheaper and I was told that it is a little bit faster than the >Intel. The AMD's floating point unit is not as good, but it's integer computation should be on par. Of course, unless someone does head to head comparison on your applications under NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP/Mach, it's really hard to tell. >Are there any know problems with an AMD under NeXtStep ? I asked this question a little while ago about the K5 and only received responses indicated problems with the Cyrix 6x86. I never received confirmation that the K5 works, but AMD had put the K5 through independent testing which included NEXTSTEP 3.3 (among other OS's). That was good enough for me. I went ahead and ordered a K5, but I received an Intel Pentium instead and therefore can't confirm that OPENSTEP/Mach works on AMD K5's. Unfortunately, the K6's certification letter (http://www.xxcal.com/amdk6.html) does not list NEXTSTEP. However, AMD's Processor Compatibility List does include NEXTSTEP 3.3 (http://www.amd.com/K6/k6docs/compat/k6compat.htm). I would suggest buying the K6 only if you can get independent confirmation that it works well (run OmniWeb :-)) and/or get it from someplace that you can return it to. -- Bill Chin - bchin@richmond.freedomnet.com - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 2 May 1997 01:58:35 GMT Organization: cdb graphics Message-ID: <5kbhob$fqq@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k7nk4$fj@mpaque.mpaque> <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Cc: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In <5kb4oc$vee$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Paulus Adisoemarta wrote: > In article <Pine.A32.3.91.970430114956.21048A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu>, > Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > >Someone posted here that mixing 60ns and 70ns SIMMs causes the real > >problems. That the mixed SIMMs could be recognized as 100ns SIMMs. > > > >But if you use 60ns only, you should be fine. > > > >Now, the last sentence is actually a question. Could someone confirm what > >I just wrote? I am going to buy some RAM myself and don't wanna get into > >troubles. > > > > On my Color Turbo Station: > - 70ns by itself, recoqnized as 70ns > - 60ns by itself, recoqnized as 60ns, ran as fast as the 70ns > - install the two speeds together, recognized as 70ns > system runs well, no problem at all. > > Go figure, > > Paulus > yes, i gather it's not the turbo motherboard rather just the nd which brings up the situation where 60ns sticks get read at 100ns, right? mike paquette, whoever your employer is, could you please take the "mike" on this?
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From: akwong@MCS.COM (ANDREW KWONG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So, 60 or 70ns RAM in Turbo? Date: 1 May 1997 22:23:59 -0500 Organization: /usr/lib/news/organi[sz]ation Message-ID: <5kbmof$rv6$1@Jupiter.Mcs.Net> References: <5k3ccb$dpr$1@news.jf.intel.com> <5k48ab$saj@news1-alterdial.uu.net> I believe it depends on your NeXT's ROM version... Mine is v.70 and it takes 60ns just fine. What is the version number which takes 60ns SIMMs as 100ns?? Anybody know the latest ROM version?? I bought mine ROM 2 years ago to fix some bugs directly from NeXT... since NeXT is no longer making the hardware, there is no update anymore. Andy
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@BellAtlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: What kind of RAM in a turbo color slab Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 01:24:39 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33697A91.5962@BellAtlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've got a turbo color slab and I just swapped memory between it and my intel-box. The Intel box runs fine with the 2 8-meg SIMMs from the NeXT but the NeXT reports parity errors and hangs. I've tried resetting the NVRAM by pulling the battery but to no avail. (the parity error message on the ROM monitor has been replaced by the much less helpfull "System has failed startup tests" message on the graphical startup screen) Neither the 8-Meg SIMMs that came out of the NeXT nor the 16-Meg SIMMs that came out of the intel-box seem to have parity (the 8-Meg SIMMs are double sided with 8 chips per side while the 16-Meg SIMMs are single sided and have only 8 chips total) so I'm a little puzzled by the parity error. I seem to remember that the ROM monitor preferences command had an option to use parity checking if parity memory was installed. Any ideas? Thanks in advance for any help. - Jeff Dutky
From: Mario Illgen <Mario.Illgen@Informatik.TU-Chemnitz.DE> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 2 May 1997 10:22:39 GMT Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG Message-ID: <5kcf9f$kt2$1@narses.hrz.tu-chemnitz.de> References: <01bc54ee$44a86ed0$0100007f@atlan> <5kbadb$5do$1@news.freedomnet.com> Hi there, bchin@NOSPAM.richmond.freedomnet.com (Bill Chin) wrote: >I asked this question a little while ago about the K5 and only received >responses indicated problems with the Cyrix 6x86. I never received confirmation >that the K5 works, but AMD had put the K5 through independent testing which >included NEXTSTEP 3.3 (among other OS's). That was good enough for me. I went >ahead and ordered a K5, but I received an Intel Pentium instead and therefore >can't confirm that OPENSTEP/Mach works on AMD K5's. > OPENSTEP/Mach 4.0 is running here with no problems so far (AMD K5PR100)... Ciao, Mario -- Mario Illgen, TU Chemnitz-Zwickau "I laughed in the mirror for the first time in a year..."
From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 13:45:20 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> I'm having problems getting Cub'X5.0 to run properly on a NSturbo color with ADB. If I have an xterm up na dstart typing I get wierd characters. for instance the "e" in telnet will not show. NeXTanswers 1070 states: The new display and ADB keyboard are not yet fully compatible with some third-party software, specifically packages such as X Window emulators and SoftPC(TM). All third-party software applications that communicate directly to the keyboard, such as software emulators, will have problems working with the new keyboard. But that was dated fall of '92. I'm wondering if somehow it could be related to my booting off an external HD that was originally configured to work with a non adb machine (NS Color). I'm using NS 3.3 and my new hw uses ROM v.74 Any advice out there? -- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: ADB Replacement Mouse. Message-ID: <E9JvB2.2vC@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:47:26 GMT In article <3367F08B.55DE@lei.com> Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> writes: > My Color TurboNeXT Station has adb connectors for the mouse and > keyboard. My mouse was rudely taken apart by one of my kids and the > ball retainer is missing. I need to get a replacement mouse or > trackball to install some software I am expecting tomorrow. No telling > where that piece is. Since it is adb, can I get a Apple replacement for > my box? And also does apple keyboards work with an adb NeXT? I am > curious on this one. I don't have any friends with a Mac to borrow a > rodent from (if the apple mouse would do the job). I will have to get a > replacement NeXT mouse though. > ADB keyboards and mice will interchange. You might want to redo the keyboard mapping, though. And you'd possibly miss the second mouse button (hey, I even know of someone who misses a third button on NeXTs ;-) For a replacement try posting on c.s.n.marketplace. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: WTK: Color Turbo Video Message-ID: <E9JwHG.2x0@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 11:12:52 GMT In article <01bc55e8$2bc00770$a478c0d0@hal9000> "Chris" <cea@thenet.net> writes: > If any one out there knows the pinouts of 13W3 Video signal for NX Color > Turbo or Nx Dimention. I could shure use it. > The plug on the system side (not the screen!) is like this: / P1 P2 P3 P4 P5 \ /(A1) (A2) (A3)\ / P6 P7 P8 P9 P10 \ with Pin 1 = 12V Pin 2 = Pwr Switch Pin 3 = Clk Pin 4 = Data Out Pin 5 = data In Pin 6 = -12V Pin 7 - 10 = Gnd A1 = Red Video A2 = Green Video A3 = Blue Video -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Swapping Drives Message-ID: <E9Jvvu.2wA@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <mitchell.allen-2904971504500001@73.bridgeton-057.mo.dial-access.att.net> Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 10:59:54 GMT In article <mitchell.allen-2904971504500001@73.bridgeton-057.mo.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > I have two questions: > > a) Is there a problem with taking the main boot drive from a > Turbo Dimension Cube and putting it in a NeXTstation non-turbo > mono. Here's the deal, I already did the switch and i want to > know if I'm likely to have problems. :-) > No known problems. > b) Is there an easy way to copy the developer information from > one drive to another. I have 3.2 developer on a HD, but I don't > have it on CD. I want it on another drive, but I don't want to > build the entier disk. > Also no known problems. 'ditto' will come handy copying entire filesystems and partial trees. But a 'tar' piped into 'tar' will also do. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: wbrown@neosoft.com (W. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Technical Manuals for NeXT Black? Date: 2 May 1997 17:01:52 GMT Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <5kd6m0$c77@uuneo.neosoft.com> Hallo folks, I'm hoping to start an OpenBSD porting effort to NeXT black hardware. I was wondering if detailed technical manuals documenting the hardware existed, to a sufficient detail enough for an operating system port? M68K code exists, so a lot of the work is done already. However, I need to know details such as MMU, memory registers, and the like. Even better would be for me to get ahold of old NeXTstep sources, like 1.0 or 2.0. :) Thanks, Wes Brown wbrown@starbase.neosoft.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Control: cancel <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 18:17:27 GMT Sender: hinda ann kolansky<ayala20@prodigy.net> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:13:39 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Message-ID: <3369F693.104805B4@fuller.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <don_arb-2204971201020001@news1.wolfenet.com> <nagleE93n0E.715@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Nagle wrote: > > don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) writes: > >In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox > ><pmaddox@ridgecrest.ca.us> wrote: > >: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > >: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > >: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > >: over the competition. > > The Alpha is faster and still isn't selling. See the Business > week article on it. > com'on -- dec's stealth advertising is going to work <smrk> Palmer is betting the whole existance of the Co. on it. -- H. Blakely Williford Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company religious conviction. (Pascal)
From: "H. Blakely Williford" <blakew@fuller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 02 May 1997 09:10:47 -0500 Organization: The Fuller Brush Company Message-ID: <3369F5E7.71278577@fuller.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit paul maddox wrote: > > Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. > They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit > 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform > over the competition. no not realy dec past that a long time ago with the Alpha 21164PC at 533Mhz. -- H. Blakely Williford Men never do evil so completely and Systems Administrator cheerfully as when they do it from The Fuller Brush Company religious conviction. (Pascal)
From: hinda ann kolansky<ayala20@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 2 May 1997 16:39:56 GMT Organization: Prodigy Services Corp Message-ID: <5kd5cs$5sm$7376@newssvr07-int.news.prodigy.com> ****Make up to $50,000 in 4 weeks! 100% leagal**** NO SCAM!!! Make $50,000 in 4 weeks! This system works! NOT A SCAM... Read the text! This is the fairest, most honest way I have seen to share in the wealth of the world! This works so well that all of my friends are trying it! Take five minutes to read this and it IT'LL change your life if you want to know how to make thousands of dollars quickly, and leagally with NO CATCH, then keep reading. THe internet has grown tremendously. it doubles in size every 4 months. Think about it. YOu see those "make money fast" postings more and more. Thats becasue it works! So I thought, all those new users might make it work. And I decided to try it out, a few months ago. 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Mail 5 of these letters to the following 5 addresses: (only U.S. Dollar bills should be used) 1) Odd Hilsen Avda Espana 93 Sitio de Calahonda Mijias Costa- Malaga SPAIN 2) Peter Kjoge Camino de la Condesa 9, 5-A E-29640 Fuengirola SPAIN 3) Bob Tomlinson 3208 21st Sioux City, La 51105 USA 4) Alex Tikhanoff 1636 n. Verdugo rd. Glendale Ca. 91208 apt.202 USA 5) hinda kolansky 49-35 167 st flushing ny 11365 usa STEP TWO Now remove the top name from the list, and move the other names up. This way, #5 becomes #4 and so o. Put your name as the fifth one on the list. STEP 3 Post the article to at least 250 newsgroups. There are at least 19000 newsgroups at any given moment in time. Try posting to as many newsgroups as you can. Remember, the more newsgroups you post to, the greater your audience and cash flow from all these subscribers. STEP 4 You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the internet is new and awesome in its size. 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Print these pages out now so that you may refer to this article at a later date. try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name should be! REMEMBER....HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE BIG BUCKS!! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOUW ILL BE MORE THAN GENEROUSLY REWARDED! P.S. if you try to decieve people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and thats after 2 months) then he sent the five bills and was added to their lists. In 4-5 weeks, he had in excess of $10,000. Good luck! <Picture>
From: powell@aoml.noaa.gov (Mark Powell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB Keyboards and X emulation Date: 2 May 1997 20:41:57 GMT Organization: U.S. Department of Commerce, NOAA/AOML Message-ID: <5kdjil$hse@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> References: <5kcr5g$br5@nil.aoml.noaa.gov> Claire Normand of Intuitive Systems emailed me that a patch to Cub'X is available. I downloaded it and will try it out this weekend. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Mark D. Powell powell@aoml.noaa.gov Research Meteorologist, (Member, NOAA '96 Olympics Marine Forecast Team) (Swimmer, IMCO Windsurfer, V15 Fleet Cap'n, NEXTSTEP advocate) NOAA Hurricane Research Division (appropriate disclaimers apply) Miami, Fl 33149
From: ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Mitsubishi DiamondPro 87TXM? Date: Fri, 2 May 1997 21:41:13 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Message-ID: <970503064113.634AAGhE.root@color> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123418.26749B-100000@kira> <mitchell.allen-0105971735240001@97.chicago-036.il.dial-access.att.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501161944.24483A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Eloquent) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >>On Thu, 1 May 1997 mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >>> It's pretty much right at eye level.... for $700+ I was hoping for a >>> pretty perfect monitor... >>> >> Is it a line similar to the lines on Trinitron monitors which are used to >> alligh the aperture grille? > >Sadly yes it seems to be afeature, designed to give better color and >clarity... life is a trade-off... > >TjL Yes, I have also TOTOKU CV213(DiamondTron) and SONY 20SE (Trinitron) monitors. They both have two damper line. Someone say, It's natural thing for high quality on Trinitron monitors. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (NeXTMail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A board written in Korean)
From: Michael Simpson <simpson@cts.com.byteme> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.netx.software,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: 23 Apr 1997 18:36:54 GMT Organization: None Distribution: world Message-ID: <5jlks6$l5g$1@thefuture.qualcomm.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <5jlj30$guk$1@ironhorse.plsys.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <nagleE93n0E.715@netcom.com> John Nagle, nagle@netcom.com writes: >Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea >From: John Nagle, nagle@netcom.com>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 16:26:38 GMT >> >don_arb@wolfenet.com (Don Arbow) writes: >>In article <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us>, paul maddox >><pmaddox@ridgecrest.ca.us> wrote: >>: Apple's strategy for the future seems solid. >>: They have superior hardware, the PowerMac, which just this week hit >>: 300 MHz-- a clear win for the PowerPC Platform >>: over the competition. > > The Alpha is faster and still isn't selling. See the Business >week article on it. > >>: To run this great hardware, they have a superior OS on the way -- >>: Rhapsody, which will bring new meaning to the word >>: modern and its associated buzzwords, and give some already impressive >>: hardware a large performance boost. > > But it's vaporware. Last year at this time, we had Copland, >which was also vaporware, and more compatible. > > Realistically, nothing is going to happen on the application front >until Rhapsody ships to developers. That may or may not happen; >Ellison may succeed in his hostile takeover of Apple, the Saudi >prince may buy a controlling interest, or Apple may just screw up >again. > > John Nagle John, One of our developers just came back from Apple. The future is bright. I've been a Mac devotee for years. I've also done programming on Windows NT. There was some wishfulness on my part that the Mac had some of the features of NT. No more. Rhapsody is very cool. Our developer saw it running and was able to program for it now. Apple will disclose all at WWDC and I think you will be pleased. Michael
From: dblakele@mercury.interpath.net (Dean D. Blakeley - Personal Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate HD's as Internal HD for 68040-25 Mono Cube Date: 3 May 1997 03:02:57 GMT Organization: Interpath Message-ID: <5ke9t1$6oj@redstone.interpath.net> Howdy do! I know this is something that has been debated ad nauseam, but there were a few things I couldn't figure out completely from scanning back issues of csn.* through DejaNews. My trusty old Maxtor XT8760S which I've been using as my internal HD for over 5 years is still acting flaky. I've had enough system panics on bootup lately, that I've *finally* decided to break over a get a new HD. I've narrowed the field down to two Seagate drives -- ST31051N or ST51080N. What I had planned to do was to get the new HD installed externally on the SCSI bus, build it for NS3.3, pop out the old Maxtor and plug the Seagate into it's place. I still use my OD as a backup device (and by saying so, I'm feeling *incredibly* ancient) and plan on sticking out with black hardware as long as possible. I've got so many heritage files that I still run with Improv, Word Perfect and Appsoft Draw on a regular basis, I've not wanted to part with them yet. (Plus, the prices for single copies of Quantrix, OpenWrite and Create would be enough to buy a whole new Windoze box. But, I digress.) I got a sense that with these two drives, there might be some disktab changes that would have to be done. So, here's the question. What are some of the specifics on changing /etc/disktab and does it matter if the drive is internal or external? And, as always, thank you for your support. Peace -- | Dean D Blakeley, MD \\// This ain't no party, this ain't no disco | | Jones St Family Medicine _\/_ This ain't no fooling around - D. Byrne | | 618 West Jones Street \\// Office Tel # (919) 755-1888 | | Raleigh NC 27603 \/ #include <disclaim.whsi.h> |
From: "Xavier BOULHOL" <proginext@lenet.fr> Subject: How change IP address en NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Proginext Message-ID: <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> Date: 3 May 97 10:31:05 GMT Hello Next's users After change our Classe C, I must change the IP address of my Next Station (3.2) I try to modify /etc/hostconfig but it was an echec. It's not possible via Sample Network Manager Can you help me please ? Thanks > orestes@comland.com > Black Hardware = Next station and cubes (Turbo or not) White Hardware = PC under NeXTSTEP !
From: Peter Sung <fantasia@hula.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 04:06:21 -0700 Organization: Hula Net, Inc. Hawaii's Newest Internet Provider Message-ID: <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; name="income.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="income.txt" A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam," but like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There are thousands) No catch, that was it. So after thinking it over, and talking to a few people first, I thought about trying it. I figured what have I got to lose except 5 stamps and $5.00, right? Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out with my country Post Office, and others had with US Post (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $5.00............. Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's still coming in ....... It's certainly worth $5.00, and 5 stamps, I spent more than that on the lottery!! Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is very simple and consists of 3 easy steps: STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST." Now get 5 $1.00 bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL! Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses: #1 B.C. Smith P.O. Box 170 Greenland, AR 72703 #2 Beddingfield, Bobby 12404 Nokesville Road P.O. Box 40 Nokesville, Va 22123 #3 Keen, Callye 44181 Bristow Circle Ashburn, VA 20147 #4 Tom, BDB. Via Damiano Chiesa 10 00010 Marcellina (Roma) Italy #5 H. J. Sung 1839 Keeaumoku St. Honolulu, HI 96822-3004 STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the other names up (5 becomes 4, 4 becomes 3, etc...) and add YOUR Name as number 5 on the list. STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 25,000 groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you make! Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the following: FOR NETSCAPE USERS: 1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a message box. 2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used, something to catch the eye!!! 3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up) 4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-) 5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner) 6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the 'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it. Click once on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'. If you did this right, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be shaded. NOW POST AWAY! FOR INTERNET EXPLORER: It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to. Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!! THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for each newsgroup! **REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200** **If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte’s "Free Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able to find it.** That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you con invent a name to use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.** --- Now the WHY part: Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now, each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200 postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5 replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM 200 letters with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00! AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW! Average is probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses per person. Here is what you will make: at #5 $15.00 at #4 $225.00 at #3 $3,375.00 at #2 $50,625.00 at #1 $759,375.00 When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the list, putting your name at number 5 again. And start posting again. The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST LIKE YOU are now!! So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users, every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet. Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have to be honest. Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also. Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly. Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the basic idea to make the money!! GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from this, which is tons of extra CASH. **By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks! Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing anything but our time!!! Don't listen to the people that don't trust it and continue to say it's illegal and don't work... They are just too much skeptics. You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail lists for future dollars. Please remember to declare your extra income. Thanks once again...
From: "Sanford L. Clark" <sandyc@usit.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT Display on Mac? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 11:04:26 -0400 Organization: U.S. Internet Message-ID: <sandyc-0305971104260001@knox-max99.dynamic.usit.net> ALL: I was wondering, Is it possible to use a Next display on a Macintosh? Is there anadapter or something out there or are they compatible? -Sandy sandyc@NO.SPAM.usit.net
Date: 3 May 1997 15:23:49 GMT From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) Sender: Peter Sung <fantasia@hula.net> Message-ID: <cancel.336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> Control: cancel <336B1C2D.438E@hula.net> MMF spam cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Original Subject: All you need is to invest $5 for a FORTUNE!!! ACT NOW!!! Total spams this type to date: 67122 Total this spam type for this user to date: 219
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:29:21 -0400 Organization: LEI, Corp. Message-ID: <336B75F1.42D4@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, There is an app on my Turbo Color Slab (T.C.S.) that brings up a black TV set. I thought to my self, "...this is probably for a cube with that dimension board...". Is this so? How does one display video using a T.C.S.? How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? On the T.C.S., what are some of the uses for the DSP port? Anyone out there that makes hardware for the DSP port? I have had my T.C.S. for less than a week and it is nice. Martin
From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac.spamless.@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.oz.linux.x,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.oz.linux.setup Subject: NeXT 21 Monitor Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 14:00:14 -0500 Organization: Verio Inc Message-ID: <336B8B3E.B2BBEDBC@onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I am looking for Xconfig info for this monitor to run under XFree86. Has anyone had any luck with this? NeXT 21 Monitor. I can get the graphics card to work fine and the monitor shows text fine but I do not know how to config the monitor under X. Any info on the configs of just info about the monitor would help. Thanx alot -Brian rmaniac @ onramp.net do not hit reply.
From: otto@tukki.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.misc,sfnet.atk.nt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.admin.networking,sfnet.atk.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer type in Windows NT 4.0? Followup-To: poster Date: 4 May 1997 03:56:37 +0300 Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland Sender: otto@tukki.cc.jyu.fi Message-ID: <OTTO.97May4035634@tukki.jyu.fi> NNTP-Posting-User: otto I've recently put Windows NT 4.0 into my PC as an addition to linux. I've set up TCP/IP printing to print to my NeXTstation 400dpi PS laser printer. Everything works nicely, except I haven't found a specific entry for the NeXT laser printer in Windows NT, nor have I located a "generic postscript" option. The only thing relevant I found on the net was a MicroSoft KnowledgeBase article from 1995 (http://www.microsoft.com/kb/articles/q104/7/48.htm) for NT 3.5 which has the most cheerful title of NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer Is Not Supported Under Windows NT Suggestions, anyone? This most probably isn't widely interesting, so please reply via email to me. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela <otto@cc.jyu.fi> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 14 613 847, BBS: +358 14 211 562 (V.32bis/USR-HST,24h/d) */ /* Mail: Cygn.k.7 E 46/FIN-40100 Jyvaskyla/Finland, ICBM: 62.14N 25.44E */ /* * * Computers Rule 01001111 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */
From: Jonathan Hendry <jhendry@cts.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.scitech,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.mac.programmer.codewarrior,comp.sys.mac.programmer.misc,comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 Subject: Re: Developers Coalition idea Date: Fri, 25 Apr 1997 19:13:14 -0700 Organization: CTS Network Services Message-ID: <336164BA.6A1E@cts.com> References: <335C1958.CE3@ridgecrest.ca.us> <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk> <mem-ya02408000R2504971057520001@news.jhu.edu> <5jr844$m66$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cache-Post-Path: optional.cts.com!unknown@p46156242.cts.com Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 04/25/97, Mel Martinez wrote: > > > >In article <1997Apr23.132544.68046@ucl.ac.uk>, > >hammond_g@drkclu.meng.ucl.ac.uk (Java G) wrote: > >> > >> Interestingly, Apple are dumping GameSprockets and going for a > corporate > >> image when they really should be competing with MS's w95 gaming > strategy. > >> > > > >According to information reported on MacInTouch > (http://www.macintouch.com > >and other sources, the GameSprockets team is still pretty much > >intact and GS is still alive at least on MacOS 7/8 & Rhapsody Blue > >Box for the next few years. The only unknown is whether they will > >port GS to Rhapsody Yellow Box - the comment on this from one of > >the team members was essentially that even _they_ don't know if > >that is worth doing or not. > > This is pretty much right from the sprockets-mouth > > While Game Sprockets on its own isn't necessarily an easy > sell, the capabilities it offers are coming to Rhapsody... > > When it comes right down to it, thats what is important. > Exactly. If all Apple did was directly port the old technologies over, it would be as bad as Microsoft's Mac software. Microsoft's Mac apps are Windows at the core, with only the slightest accomodation of the Mac way of doing things. And you can tell. Apple has to look at the old Mac OS technologies, and figure out how they would best be implemented in the new OS. Things like Game Sprockets should be redesigned to take the most advantage of the capabilities of Rhapsody. MacOS didn't have Mach messages, or distributed objects, or a dynamic OOP language as the preferred implementation language. Rhapsody does, and Apple should rearchitect their technologies to take advantage of them. - Jon
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <25195862113623@digifix.com> Date: 4 May 1997 03:59:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <851862718425@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 18:17:58 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503180717.16974A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to 0 and so does the new machine's. I spent 45 minutes on Micropolis' help line being told that my call was very important to the,.... yet they never answered .. so how important was it? Anyway, I've got no idea how to do this.... most of my drives haev a little selector on the back.. this one does not...in fact all it has it a little square: 1 |-----| | | | | 0 |-----| that square is a hole in the back of the case and there is a piece of metal right flush behind it... Ican't figure out what it means as far as how to chagne it from 0 to 1.... scsimodes says this: SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 512 bytes per sector 71 sectors per track 15 tracks per cylinder 1928 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 8 spare sectors per cylinder 45 alternate tracks per volume 2031553 usable sectors on volume I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience with MicroPolis HDs..... If so please email me Thanks TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How change IP address en NeXTSTEP 3.2 ? Message-ID: <E9nIJn.CG@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:02:11 GMT In article <01bc57ac$d1962240$d434fac2@next212.lenet.fr> "Xavier BOULHOL" <proginext@lenet.fr> writes: > Hello Next's users > > After change our Classe C, I must change the IP address of my Next > Station (3.2) > > I try to modify /etc/hostconfig but it was an echec. > > It's not possible via Sample Network Manager > HostManager.app and plain NetInfoManager.app, of course. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Intel or AMD Date: 4 May 1997 19:15:54 GMT Organization: "private site" Message-ID: <5kin9a$22t@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <5k8a1p$1ap@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 (FinalNews for NeXTstep; Version 0.27 / May 3, 1997) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote in <5kadcc$ede@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> on 1997-05-01 17:37:48 +0200: > I've been using NS3.3 on an AMD 120MHz 486 since it came out and am very > happy with it. Compiled lots of stuff, no problems. Don't know about the > K5 or K6. > Juergen Grieb writes > > I first had an AMD DX4 and wasn't able to compile anything at all. > > When I bought an Intel everything worked fine. > > I don't know if this incompatability is only related to the 486. Maybe problems only show in combination with certain motherboards. I use a Asus SP3G. --- _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503180717.16974A-100000@kira> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <336d073b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 4 May 97 22:01:31 GMT In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503180717.16974A-100000@kira>, Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > >Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot >drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a >separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to >0 and so does the new machine's. > >I spent 45 minutes on Micropolis' help line being told that my call was >very important to the,.... yet they never answered .. so how important was >it? > >Anyway, I've got no idea how to do this.... most of my drives haev a >little selector on the back.. this one does not...in fact all it has it a >little square: > > > 1 |-----| > | | > | | > 0 |-----| > >that square is a hole in the back of the case and there is a piece of >metal right flush behind it... > >Ican't figure out what it means as far as how to chagne it from 0 to 1.... > >scsimodes says this: > >SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a >Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 >512 bytes per sector >71 sectors per track >15 tracks per cylinder >1928 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) >8 spare sectors per cylinder >45 alternate tracks per volume >2031553 usable sectors on volume > > >I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience >with MicroPolis HDs..... > >If so please email me > >Thanks > >TjL > > You have to play with the jumpers on the disk itself. There are normally a bunch of jumpers to select various characteristics, and three pairs of these jumpers allow you to select SCSI ID 0-7. x x x x x ..... x x x x x x x x ..... x x x ^ ^ ^ 2 1 0 suppose the six jumpers marked above are the ones involved. They would likely have the binary weights shown underneath. Jumpering none of the pairs would give SCSI ID 0, jumpering just the pair marked 0 would give you 2^0 or 1, jumering the pairs marked 2 and 0 would give you 2^2 + 2^0 = 4 + 1 = 5 and so on. You just have to find which jumpers are involved, open the case, find the jumpers and do it. Jumpers are standard enough that you could likely get some at your local computer store, or maybe you already have some unused jumpers you could press into service (even from a PC board). You should be able to get jumper information from the micropolis web site or fax back (I seem to remember their web site is http://www.microp.com, but I found it by experimenting with few obvious possibilities. Their fax back number is (was!) (818) 709-3325 which is where I got similar information when I needed it -- for a 4110 drive) Then you have to open the case, find the jumpers on the drive itself, and you are in business. If you are really stuck, you could use wire wrap instead of the official jumper shorting blocks.) The cases with a thumb wheel or other selector switch on simply provide a convenient way of doing the jumpering from a specially designed octet switch which allows all eight combinations of jumpers to be set up based of four wires from the switch to the jumpers (one common wire, and three jumer wires). You might even want to buy one of these switches (can be hard to find) and incorporate it into the case so you can select any SCSI ID you like without messing around inside the case, apart from the initial set-up. Hope this helps. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Clinton Wong <clintdw@netcom.com> Subject: MegaPixel on PC? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3362A082.3E0F@netcom.com> Sender: clintdw@netcom13.netcom.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 27 Apr 1997 00:40:34 GMT I see from the NeXT FAQ that there's a way to connect a VGA monitor to a (black) NeXT, but is there any way to get the MegaPixel display to work on a PC? I've heard that there are special video cards that do this... called gemini or virage. I went through the search engines but couldn't find anything relevant. Any ideas? Clinton
From: Shahir Rajabzadeh <shahir@flash.net.> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,ba.market.computers Subject: FS: Next 20" color monitor $195 Date: Sun, 04 May 1997 18:05:27 -0800 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <336D4067.3580@flash.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FOR SALE --------- Next 20" color monitor (please note it is not 21"). Bought this monitor 3 years ago so I can put together my own Next system. Another un-finished project! Monitor is still sitting in the box! First $195 takes it. Prefer local Bay area (San Jose San Francisco) sales.
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From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware pasword question Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 07:59:52 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-0505970759530001@227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of course, don't know what they are. If there is a FAQ or NeXTanswer on this, as I supposed there should be, I couldn't find it so even a pointer to the info would be appreciated. Thanks, Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: 53C875 SCSI controller and 53C8xx driver Message-ID: <E9pLCu.99@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 12:58:06 GMT Anyone had success with a Symbios Logic (NCR) 53C875 SCSI controller and the 53C8xx driver? If yes, details about versions of NS/OS and driver please. The 53C875 is an UW controller. It comes with the 4.0 version of SDMS. I have the impression that NeXT did test SDMS 3.07 but not 4.0. thanks hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
From: J.Brandenburg@tu-bs.de (Jens Brandenburg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Micropolis HD: how to set to SCSI id other than 0? Date: 5 May 1997 13:07:34 GMT Organization: IBR, TU Braunschweig, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kkm2m$hr6$1@ra.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503180717.16974A-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503180717.16974A-100000@kira> On 05/04/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: >Hey folks, I know this might not be ontopic but this has been my m68k boot >drive for a long time now... I want to hook it to my new machine as a >separate drive, but it won't boot, I suspect because it has the id set to >0 and so does the new machine's. ... >scsimodes says this: > >SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a >Drive type: MICROP 1598-15MD1066702 ... >I was hoping someone might know how to figure this out of have experience >with MicroPolis HDs..... The best address for any questions about haddisk jumper settings or specifications is: http://sage.macc.wisc.edu/resources/hardware/harddisk/ At http://sage.macc.wisc.edu/resources/hardware/harddisk/micropolis/1598s pec.doc you should find all you need: _ID2 | _ID1 | | _ID0 | | | Pin 1 J2 | | | J1 | J3 ___________ __________________________ ________ _| | | | | | | |___________|_ |__________________________|___|________| | .. .. | | W5 W4 RN9 W2 | | W1 W11 | | | | W28 | | | | Component Side | ID0, ID1, ID2 SCSI Address Jumpers The SCSI ID (drive address) jumpers are identified as ID0, ID1, and ID2. ID selection is binary, as shown in the table below. SCSI Jumpers Address ID2 ID1 ID0 ------- --- --- --- 0 out out out 1 out out in 2 out in out 3 out in in 4 in out out 5 in out in 6 in in out 7 in in in Remember to remove the RN9 Interface Terminator if the drive is not located at the end of your SCSI chain. Jens
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT and Apple OneScanner Date: 5 May 1997 17:45:37 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5kl6c2$pup$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <336632B5.7B87@suc.org> <5k6hev$1sf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > well because the answer is a simple negative answer?? > > the best bet is to go to places like Scan-o-matic and GSCorp... or if you > are really good and have the specs .. Frank have a driver for the > Mustek.. and I think the code is included.. (www.this.net) > > Godwin > > Radmilo Bozinovic (rasha@suc.org) wrote: > : Hi all - > > : is it possible to use a an Apple OneScanner (b/w) with a NeXT? Where > : can I find these drivers if they exist? Please send any answers also > : to the above address (rasha@suc.org). > I am not aware of a driver for the Apple One scanner. I would have written one but my karma was to buy a Mustek scanner, so you can find the driver for the 3-pass Mustek on http://www.this.net/~frank (among other stuff). In principle you can take a Linux (user level) driver and adapt the generic SCSI routines to work on NeXTSTEP. This should work in most cases, however it needs a bit of knowledge of the SCSI handling. The Mustek driver may give you some hints if you are determined to take the challenge. --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:38:09 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net> References: <mitchell.allen-0505970759530001@227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, 05 May 1997 07:59:52 -0400, mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few >NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of >course, don't know what they are. > >If there is a FAQ or NeXTanswer on this, as I supposed there should be, I >couldn't find it so even a pointer to the info would be appreciated. Just had this answered myself... Open the case and pop out the battery. Leave it out for awhile (I left it out overnight). Put the battery back in and voila! No hardware password. The first time you boot up it'll try to boot off the network, so hit both command keys and the tilde on the keypad to dump into the ROM monitor. Then use 'p' (I think) to change the default to bsd... Now if I could just convince the thing to ask me who I want to login as instead of logging in as 'me' I'd be all set... mikelea@access.digex.net "listen to your children instead of dissin' them!"-KRS-ONE "rush limbaugh, i'll hit that pig with an axe..." -Channel Live
From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Date: 5 May 1997 13:51:58 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <5kla8e$4re@megamouth.cs.indiana.edu> References: <mitchell.allen-0505970759530001@227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net> In article <336e1a2b.392272@news.digex.net>, Hippykill <hippykill@my.own.bad.site> wrote: > ... >Now if I could just convince the thing to ask me who I want >to login as instead of logging in as 'me' I'd be all set... Try setting a passwd on the "me" account.
From: lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: replacement keyboard Date: 5 May 1997 19:15:05 GMT Organization: Brandeis University, Waltham MA Message-ID: <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Hi, We need a new keyboard for a NeXT station slab. Can anyone tell me where to get one at a good price? Is it by any chance the same as a Mac keyboard? While we're at it, my mouse is dying, too. One of the buttons clicks multiple times for every time I click once. Our technician swapped the left and right switches so that the left one works now (since that's the one I use most). That solution is fine for now, but sometime I'll need another mouse. I assume I could get one of those from the same companies that make keyboards? Thanks in advance! -Sean La Shell lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Date: 5 May 1997 15:20:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5kktrf$56bo@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <336B75F1.42D4@lei.com> >There is an app on my Turbo Color Slab (T.C.S.) that brings up a black >TV set. I thought to my self, "...this is probably for a cube with that >dimension board...". Is this so? How does one display video using a >T.C.S.? How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? Get your hands on a Digital Eye from MetaResearch. (see below). Sorry, don't know about Intel hardware. >On the T.C.S., what are some of the uses for the DSP port? Anyone out >there that makes hardware for the DSP port? I know of the following: from MetaResearch: Digital Ears - CD quality stereo input) Digital Eye/Color Digital Eye - mono/color frame grabber that plugs into the DSP. Works fine and I believe it captures to disk faster than the NeXTdimension, however it can only display at something like 5 fps so its no good for watching TV. from Ariel: I heard of something equivalent to Digital Ears. [start shameless plug] from me: Nintendo PowerGlove! - lets you attach a Nintendo PowerGlove to the DSP and use it as a 3-D mouse/virtual reality glove, whatever. Pretty cool. There's complete instructions on how to do this in PowerGloveInspector.app which I put on ftp.next.peak.org. I requires a little hacking and soldering but not much (or send me $100 and I'll hack one up for you). [end shameless plug] Hope this helps, but the fact is there was never was much out there that exploited the DSP. Pity. - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXT Display on Mac? Date: 5 May 1997 18:53:29 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Message-ID: <5klab9$k11@corporate.hesta.com> References: <sandyc-0305971104260001@knox-max99.dynamic.usit.net> Cc: sandyc@usit.net In <sandyc-0305971104260001@knox-max99.dynamic.usit.net> "Sanford L. Clark" wrote: > ALL: > > I was wondering, Is it possible to use a Next display on a Macintosh? Is > there anadapter or something out there or are they compatible? > > -Sandy > sandyc@NO.SPAM.usit.net > Take a look here: http://www.photonweb.com We were going to use these boards for some of our NeXT monitors on PC's - Not sure they are still in business or if it will work for you. Let me know! -- "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return." -Unattributed. MIME & NeXTMAIL accepted Michael Styles Verruto - michael@hesta.com
From: John Michael Thornton <thorntjm@cs.purdue.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 15:37:02 -0500 Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? John Thornton
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 5 May 1997 21:21:10 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5klj06$fu9$1@news.digifix.com> References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> On 05/05/97, John Michael Thornton wrote: > > >I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It >currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it >requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the >package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What >kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any >hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? > >John Thornton > > If you check www.next.com in NeXTanswers, there is a 3.3 Boot floppy image, and a DOS tool to write it out... So if you have access to a DOS machine (not hard to come by) then you should be set.. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: michael@hesta.com (Michael Verruto) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with manual fsck? Date: 5 May 1997 20:53:14 GMT Organization: HPI Capital, LLC Message-ID: <5klhbq$k11@corporate.hesta.com> I have a 128mb optical drive and when you manually eject a disk while it is still mounted the disk gets corrupted slightly and will not remount again. The repair dialog box says it will not repair; years ago I learned how to manually moun the disk and run fsck...but for the life of me I cannot remember how... Could someone re-explain the process? (I will write it down this time....) Thanks. -- "A measure of a man is what he will do for someone who can offer but nothing in return." -Unattributed. MIME & NeXTMAIL accepted Michael Styles Verruto - michael@hesta.com
From: stefanos@Vir.com (Stefanos Kiakas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dean Reece please read. Date: 5 May 1997 16:58:02 -0400 Organization: Hookup Montreal, Internet Access Montreal. Message-ID: <5klhkq$vpg@Vir.com> Dean, When I try to send you email at your old email address, it bounces, could you contact me. Thank you, Stefanos
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From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimention Color Cube For Sale Date: 7 May 1997 14:12:56 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5kq2l8$4peu@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <336fc795.36328627@news.ucla.edu> sport@ucla.edu (Sid Port) wrote: >FOR SALE >NeXT dimention color cube (33mh) with everything >32&16 meg ram >1g HD >optical drive >... Hmm, the Turbo (33MHz) cube motherboard doesn't support NeXT's original optical disk. Are you _sure_ about this, or do you have a hacked cube with a second non-Turbo motherboard running the OD, or is it a non-NeXT SCSI optical drive? Please clarify. Also, your cross-post to csn.marketplace didn't mention it was a Turbo. - Gareth
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From: paulwang <paulwang@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:46:25 -0800 Organization: SEEDNET InterNetNews News System Message-ID: <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe SGI's machine is your best choice . PAUL John Kheit wrote: > > I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra > Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, > superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run > rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and > all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. > > Thanks for any and all advice! :) > -- > Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... > __________________________________________________________________ > monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK > NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net > Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit > New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can I put an 040 motherboard into a 030 cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E9F8Hq.CMs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 22:44:13 GMT References: <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5k5cu9$a1c@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Hi, > >Another way of asking the same question is : >are the mother connectors in the 030 cube the >same as those for an 040? > Yep. Just stick it in and away you go (after removing the '030 board first, unless you want to do surgery on the backplane.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: greg davis <gregor@crosslink.net> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 12:11:55 -0400 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Distribution: inet Message-ID: <3370A9CB.47E7@crosslink.net> References: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit dkat wrote: > > Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation > (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like > Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are > used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle > these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change > the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not > have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK One alternative is to run a Hewlett-Packard Jet Direct box out of the ethernet port. It isn't the cheapest solution, but depending which model you get (1 or 3 outputs) you can run any parallel port output printer at network transfer speeds, and any machine (if you are on a local network) can access the printer(s). GS Corp had an excellent Epson driver for the 500, and that should drive the 800 as well. The downside there is that they are no longer selling license keys for their most excellent product any longer, as far as I know. Jet Pilot is still current but I've never used it, but it will work in conjunction with the Jet Direct box. BTW, a single port box is $225 or so street price, and the EX model is about $375. Lotsa luck Gregor
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 6 May 1997 03:56:05 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5kma4l$rkp@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> John Michael Thornton <thorntjm@cs.purdue.edu> writes: > > > I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It currently > is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it requires you to boot > off a floppy disk that was supplied with the package. Problem is my cube > doesn't have a floppy drive. What kind of floppy do I need and how do I > hook it up? Are there any hacks that allow me to install the OS without > the use of a floppy? > > John Thornton Yes, it's possible to install the 3.3 release directly from the CD-ROM, but you can only do a full install this way, you cannont upgrade you 2.0 disk, because it will be re-initialized in the process. So DO backup you files before. To launch the CD-ROM installation, you only need to set the CD-ROM drive SCSI ID to 0, insert the CD-ROM, and boot the cube. And again, don't forget to backup you files and any system configuration file, applications, etc you have on your 2.0 disk: it will be re-initialized in the process. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cube second internal drive: terminate? Date: 7 May 1997 19:50:50 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Hi all! I'm adding a second internal drive to my Cube. Do I yank the terminator resistors or leave them? Cheers! Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: novice question Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 00:00:28 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi all! Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one in but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. Any suggestions? TIA Jean
From: Jim McGilvray <jim@philo.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cube second internal drive: terminate? Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 18:08:09 -0400 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970507180556.5557C-100000@kant> References: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: atl2@lehigh.edu In-Reply-To: <5kqmeq$iem@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Alex, You said, > I'm adding a second internal drive to my Cube. Do I yank the terminator > resistors or leave them? Terminate only the last drive on your internal cable. If you have a terminated drive in there, and don't know how to terminate a drive, you could move it to the end and install your new one before it (assuming it is not terminated). Make sure that you assign different scsi addresses to them (and to any external scsi devices you might have), and be sure that your boot drive has the lowest scsi number (usually 0). It's usually easy to terminate drives: typically, you have to install or remove a jumper or two. Look on your drive manufacturer's web site for the relevant setting instructions, usually accompanied by diagrams. They also provide information about scsi number settings. Scsi 0 has no jumpers; the other numbers are assigned in a pattern that looks like a mirror of a truth table. Good luck. Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill
From: Fred Schenkelberg <fms@vcd.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: those gears for the NeXT laser printer Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:15:56 -0700 Organization: HP Vancouver Site Message-ID: <33710D2C.6C74@vcd.hp.com> References: <336E9C08.29D2@vcd.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for all the help. One gentleman is sending parts to me directly, and another suggested I buy a bunch and distribute... the comment below from Printer Works lists the parts, cost and phone number... should update the FAQ (IMHO). Thanks again for all the help. Fred At 12:51 PM 5/7/97 -0800, you wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm looking for the two gears to fix the paper advance of the last > inch on my 400dpi next laser printer. > > I'm looking for the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116 Price for this part is .81 , and the > 14 tooth > gear, number RS1-0132. Price for this part is .37 Both of these parts are in stock and available. Please contact our sales department at (510) 887-6116 or (800) 225-6116 to order. Dennis ================================================================= Dennis Loyer, Tech. Support | Sales: (800) 225-6116 The Printer Works, Inc. | Local/Int'l Sales: (510) 887-6116 3481 Arden Road | Technical Support: (510) 887-0234 Hayward, CA 94545 | Fax: (510) 786-0589 USA | Fax-Back System: (510) 786-0588 Visit our home page at http://www.printerworks.com/ ================================================================= Fred Schenkelberg wrote: > > Hi all, > > I called Chenesko for the gears, but they wouldn't sell the two gears I > need to repair the printer (won't advance the paper the last inch or so) > since I'm not a business, nor want to spend $50 for the first order > (gears cost about $2) > > So, anyone out there know of another source for the gears? > > I'm looking for the 20 tooth gear, number RS1-0116, and the 14 tooth > gear, number RS1-0132. Both are from Chenesko Inc. of Ronkonkoma, NY > 800-221-3516. > > thanks, > > Fred Schenkelberg > fms@vcd.hp.com
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 6 May 1997 16:53:14 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Thanks immensely for your help, --john ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr.John Michopoulos (yanni)| Tel: (202) 767-2189 or -2165 | | Naval Research Laboratory | Fax: (202) 767-9181 | | Code 6380 |e-mail: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil| | Washington DC 20375-5000 | michopoulos@anvil.nrl.navy.mil|
From: Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 01:56:40 -0400 Organization: IDT Message-ID: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my way. Thanks. Regards, Samuel Chow
From: "dkat" <dkat@psych1.psy.sunysb.edu> Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hp 820-70 or Epson 800 inkjets on a NeXTstation 3.1 machine Date: 6 May 1997 17:55:52 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Distribution: inet Message-ID: <01bc5a46$873f1480$d3463181@arty-s-win95.sunysb.edu> Does anyone know if you can install an Epson or HP inkjet on a NeXTstation (black) machine that is running 3.1 without using something like Ghostscript (tried it - can't get it to work and it is real ugly if you are used to NeXT or Win95)? Is there an upgrade for NeXTstep that will handle these printers and if so what is the lowest upgrade (I don't want to change the basic look and use of the machine since it is for someone that does not have time to deal with the differences)? Thanks, DK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu Subject: adb vs non-adb Message-ID: <m3207lrtws.fsf@absolut.foo.net> Sender: jonl@absolut.foo.net Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 06:33:55 GMT I have a question regarding the Black Hardware. What exactly is this ADB thing? I know that there were both adb and non-adb systems. Which is better and what is the difference? Jon --- Jonathan B. Leffert <leffert@cs.uchicago.edu> "But on the serious three-and-a-half percent tip, 'B' is the second letter of the English Alphabet. You work it out." - Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP public key
From: stevek@guide.chi.il.us (Steve Kacsmark) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Cube Memory Question Date: 8 May 1997 02:49:28 GMT Organization: Guide Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5krevo$kke@nntp.interaccess.com> This is a very stupid question, but I need to know. My cube has 8 30 pin slotts, and what looks like a 72pin memory slot. what is the 72 pin slot for? can it be used to expand my memory, if so why have I not seen this slot mentioned anywhere? thanks steve
From: Atindra Chaturvedi <atindra@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 22:53:42 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I purchased a NextStation Color Turbo with no memory or HD. Installed a St51080 Seagate and 2x16M SImms. On boot, I get to ROM Monitor and type bfd to boot from a floppy NS 3.3. Chugs for a few seconds and then "Exception #4 (0x10) at PC ----- and SP 0x9fff106 " Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Isnt this LESS than the SP address shown on the exception ? All other slots have no memory. Any other combination of slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing system window ! Extended SCSI tests are OK. DAzed and COnfused. TIA. Atindra.
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Cube Memory Question Date: 8 May 1997 03:47:41 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Distribution: world Message-ID: <5krict$s5j$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <5krevo$kke@nntp.interaccess.com> DSP memory slots check the archives in the MusicKit site I think somewehere in there you will find references to a 56kb upgrade.. it was somewhere in the 3 digit region.. $500-700.. from UCSF.. last I heard they kinda discountinued it i think the kit is a custom made thing to start off with.. so I guess if you have the $$$ you can get someone to build the 56KB memory fr ya=) godwin Steve Kacsmark (stevek@guide.chi.il.us) wrote: : This is a very stupid question, but I need to know. : My cube has 8 30 pin slotts, and what looks like a 72pin memory slot. : what is the 72 pin slot for? can it be used to expand my memory, if so why have I not seen this : slot mentioned anywhere? : thanks : steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Video capabilities for OpenStep 4.1?? Message-ID: <E9r3on.8B@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5kktrf$56bo@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 08:31:35 GMT > How about video on an Intel box running 4.1, any suggestions? The german company IPC from Muenich offers support for the FAST video boards (Screen machine, Video machine, FPS60). I have seen it. Quality is very good (better than Cube+Dimension), and the video is scalable. Check their site: www.ipc.de hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hardware pasword question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E9q274.FCG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 19:01:52 GMT References: <mitchell.allen-0505970759530001@227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <mitchell.allen-0505970759530001@227.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net>, <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >Does anyone know how to eliminate a hardware password? I just got a few >NeXTstations in and they all have hardware passwords enabled and I, of >course, don't know what they are. > Open up the cases, take the batteries out, go for lunch, come back. They should be gone. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetInfo database read-only? Date: 7 May 1997 21:58:55 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5kqtuv$3fc@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <mitchell.allen-0705970052450001@126.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> In article <mitchell.allen-0705970052450001@126.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > In article <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net>, hippykill@my.own.bad.site > (Hippykill) wrote: > > > I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but > > my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as > > root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User > > Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are > > read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo In my experience, it means you are working on a NetInfo clone (a read-only copy) and not the NetInfo master of the particular netinfo database. It could also mean that the NetInfo master is simply unavailable. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: see@address.in.signature (Martiin-Gilles Lavoie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Wanted: Cube (Any condition, Any model) Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 13:49:12 -0500 Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <see-0705971349130001@204.191.6.55> References: <336EC818.CCC@idt.net> In article <336EC818.CCC@idt.net>, Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> wrote: > Dear Netters, > > The subject says it all. I basically need a Cube case and the Power > Supply. I can take the whole package if needed. Any condition > welcome but I would at least prefer the power supply to be working. > > So if you have one that's collecting dust in the closet, send it my > way. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Samuel Chow Orb sells Cube in working order (as well as other black equipment). They also sell parts. Check them out at www.orb.com. -- Martin-Gilles Lavoie | "No! Try not. Do! or do not mouser@zercom.net | There is no try." www.zercom.net/~mouser/ | --Yoda on error handling
From: JMD <debaud@iese.fhg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Found again! WebStep Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:59:43 +0200 Organization: Fraunhofer Gesellschaft: Institut iese Message-ID: <3371A400.64E5@iese.fhg.de> References: <33701CCA.58DB@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <gvh-0705971359520001@emerson.digasylum.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, Any news on the avialability of Sun Openstep 1.1 for Solaris? There are a few very annoying (but not critical) bugs I would love to see go away... Thanks, Jean-Marc debaud@iese.fhg.de
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: 9 May 1997 07:49:15 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5kv2vr$ase@papoose.quick.com> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> In article <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net>, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra >Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, >superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run >rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and >all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. I have been sitting on the fence on this issue. There are a number of *very* nice looking SMP systems from both Apple and clone vendors which support twin 604e CPUS. I think that UW SCSI cards are available for at least some of them, as add-on options, though I don't know for sure what controllers are supported. The 9600/200MP is the top of the line Apple system which would make a sweet development box. If I were to buy a single box this year through the apple developer program, it would be this one. Though I do plan on running Rhapsody as soon as I can get my hands in the initial developer release, I am leery of buying a system now for a couple of reasons. The speed of apple ROMS (used by both cloners and Apple) seems to put an upper bound on the speed of the system bus. The newer PPCP/CHRP designs which should be available over the next few months will have faster system clocks and thus better overall memory bandwidth. Since my current memory target is 128MB, I want to wait to maximize the chance that my next high end system has SDRAM. I would prefer to buy into the next generation of memory technology. If no SDRAM based system is available from apple in time to run rhapsody, I think I will buy a smaller system direct from Apple to take me through the first few months, and then buy an SMP system later in the year. Another reason for delaying my system purchase is that with PPCP systems I would have the option of occaisonally using another boot drive to run AIX. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: self test error on 030 cube Date: 6 May 1997 14:50:25 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: <slrn5mugq0.hob.terry@arcane.arcane.com> My old 030 cube has stopped booting. It complains of an error code 65 when I power it up. Does anybody know what error code 65 means? Thanks, Terry -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com
From: Johnny Waters <waters@inext.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT (B) MIDI interface? Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 11:27:54 -0400 Organization: iNEX Distribution: inet Message-ID: <336F4DFA.22C4@inext.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What kind of MIDI interface works with the NeXT? I am assumign that it is a serial port interface..... Can I modify a Mac midi int? thank you in advance johnny <waters@inext.net> can't initialize; `disk' returns the dreaded "boot block extends beyond front porch" on my 3.2 cube. Any idea what I've done wrong? Here's what I did: 1. Tried to reformat the disk to 1024 sectors; Quantum doesn't seem to allow it (at least in their Fireball line). So I went with the factory format at 512. 2. Run scsimodes; here's the result: SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S 512 bytes per sector 159 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 6810 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 2 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 6281855 usable sectors on volume 2. Wrote a disktab label to /etc/disktab; here it is: TM3200S|TM3200S-512|QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM3200S-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6810:nt#5:ns#159:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#96:z1#192:hn=localhost:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ :pb#4194304:sb#2087231:bb#8192:fb#1024:cb#32:db#4096:rb#10:ob=time:\ :ib:tb=4.3BSD: 4. Tried `disk'; got the message when `disk' tried to write the label. 5. Tried cutting down on the size of the first partition and adjusting the second; same message. 6. Tried cutting down the size of the second partition; same message. 7. Quit after several hours of searching Quantum's online manual, NeXTanswers, etc., to find what I had done wrong. 8. Turned to the knowledgeable folk out there on c.s.n.hardware. Please help Thanks, Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill <jim@philo.mcgill.ca>
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation Turbo Date: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 13:15:54 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970429131137.17796A-100000@kira> References: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5k57da$qs3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Rudy -- there is a ^F and ^B in the from line of your posts... On 29 Apr 1997, it was written: > Hallo, > would anyone know if it is possible to use 64MB SIMMs in ADB NeXTstation > Turbo? I know that all the literature talks about 32MB SIMMs being the > maximum, but 64MB SIMMS seem to be newer than the sources I read. > > Thanks. I would doubt it would work... it might overload the motherboard... I've never heard of anyone having success with it, and I've heard the topic come up before, so my guess is that no, it isn't possible. The 64/simms may be newer than the lit, but that doesn't mean they are wrong ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 8 May 1997 18:09:19 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu writes: ny pointers would be helpful.. > > Pointer #1: > The NeXT TurboColor will be usable, the 486/66 will not. > Seriously, for a low end 486/66 run NS/OS that's usable it'll need a very > good video card, ethernet, SCSI hard disk, etc. For the same $ or less > you're be better off with a TurboColor. I would beg to differ here. In my experience, BOTH are useful, and, contrary to your comments, I find 486/66's (configured properly, of course) to be better. IN particular, a 486 with decent VLB video and disk (even IDE) performs adequately. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 12:32:03 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> > I would beg to differ here. In my experience, BOTH are useful, and, > contrary to your comments, I find 486/66's (configured properly, of course) > to be better. IN particular, a 486 with decent VLB video and disk (even > IDE) performs adequately. Maybe, but how do you get around the coolness factor. Black hardware is much cooler than Intel junk. Take this simple test: Which would you prefer to have: 1. a) 400 HP Ford Taurus b) 400 HP Dodge Viper 2. a) mansion in Beiruit b) mansion in Beverly Hills 3. a) Intel 486 b) NeXTstation It's all about the coolness factor. :-) Mitch
From: Timm Wetzel <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "Black Hardware" Floppy help Date: 6 May 1997 13:04:01 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5kna81$hgg$1@gwdu19.gwdg.de> References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970505153326.3092A-100000@lore.cs.purdue.edu> <5klj06$fu9$1@news.digifix.com> <x6wwpd1q0l.fsf@zero.dimensionx.com> Ryan Watkins <vamp@vamp.org> wrote: > > sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) writes: > > > On 05/05/97, John Michael Thornton wrote: > > > > >I'm a novice NeXT user who recently aquired a 040 mono cube. It > > >currently is running NEXTSTEP 2.0 . I have 3.3 on CD but it > > >requires you to boot off a floppy disk that was supplied with the > > >package. Problem is my cube doesn't have a floppy drive. What > > >kind of floppy do I need and how do I hook it up? Are there any > > >hacks that allow me to install the OS without the use of a floppy? > > You could probably just do an upgrade instead of a clean install. But I think it did not work directly off the CD-ROM for older cubes/NS2.x (not enough CD-ROM support?). There is an UpgradePrep.app utility on the `CD-ROM Tools' floppy :^) accompanying the NS3.0 release. It replaces kernel, windowserver and boot block for 2.x systems, just enough to let you start the upgrade after a reboot. If you can get hold of this, the 3.x upgrade should work AFAIK. Timm --- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <twetzel@gwdg.de> Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen
From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 17:10:18 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5kvlpq$ck8$1@darla.visi.com> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: : : Which would you prefer to have: : : 2. : a) mansion in Beiruit : b) mansion in Beverly Hills But with the mansion in Beruit you get fireworks every night! : : : It's all about the coolness factor. :-) : : Mitch -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew Goldman E-mail: goldman@visi.com Home: (612) 535-5220 Work: (612) 883-6640 My day today? Nothing major, just Xenon base gone, Scorpio gone, Tarrant dead, Tarrant alive and then I found out Blake sold us out.
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 6 May 1997 17:27:40 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5knnlq$53f$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can proceed as follows: 0) MAKE A BACKUP :-) 1) prepare the new disk by giving it a SCSI id above the one your internal disk has (changing the internal id if it's set to zero of course). 2) power down the cube, attach new disk. 3) power up, log in as root. When prompted wether you wish to format the new disk, click yes. 4) give it a meaningful label :-) 5) doubleclick /NextAdmin/BuildDisk.app and use it. It's really simple.. 6) powerdown, change SCSI ids so that the new disk now has a lower id, and power on again. This gives you a bootable new disk, configured to match the original one. You can then copy over directories like /LocalApps and /User by simply dragging them from the other disk. Alternatively, replace step 5 with gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) this will copy the complete system. Of course, there are more complex ways to go about builing your new system, but following the above steps, you are the least likely to shoot yourself in the foot. :-) Feel free to send me personal email (sans the "nospam") if you have any questions. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 14:35:05 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gnQqtNi00iV1A3k7ch@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <wnQVoWe00iV1M3Z4pv@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 9-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@cs.wisc.edu >> The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 >> CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a >> 486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. > > What exactly does the term "clock doubling" mean then? [honest to > Gawd question, no flame intended]. I was lead to believe it meant > doubling the external clock for internal timing. That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not at 66 MHz. > Damn - I even went to Motorola's web page to double check this, > got it wrong anyway... > > Oh, another minor correction: > ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- either you've got to have a loop which fits in the L1 cache (which involves loop control instuctions every 8K or 16K NOP instructions), or else there will be some overhead to handle cache misses. That's a very minor difference indeed, but it's why I phrased it the way I did. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Color Printers under Openstep Date: 9 May 1997 19:24:10 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5kvtkq$jui@news.acns.nwu.edu> Can anyone tell me if they have success with color printers? I'm considering purchasing a color printer and I'd like recommendations. Please email me at daj@nwu.edu Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson Northwestern University
From: kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu (Kurt D. Bollacker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 20:08:01 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: : It's all about the coolness factor. :-) I have to agree. You're looking at such cheap hardware, why not get a well integrated, *BLACK* workstation? You get flawless CD quality sound, a built in DSP, and a small quiet box. My definition of workstation: Computers whose largest dimension is smaller that its screen diagonal. If not, it's a PC or a server. Also think about reliability. How many people are willing to depend on 6 year old PC's for their daily work vs. 6 year old NeXT Hardware? ...................................................................... : Kurt D. Bollacker University of Texas at Austin : : kdb@pine.ece.utexas.edu P.O. Box 8566, Austin, TX 78713 : :....................................................................:
From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 21:40:18 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: <slrn5n75tn.lkn.terry@arcane.arcane.com> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> On 9 May 1997 20:08:01 GMT, Kurt D. Bollacker <kdb@pegasus.ece.utexas.edu> wrote: >Also think about reliability. How many people are willing to depend on >6 year old PC's for their daily work vs. 6 year old NeXT Hardware? I think it says something positive about NeXT hardware when we're favorably comparing a six year old NeXT to a newer PC. The 486 DX2/66 arrived years after the NeXTstation. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com
From: Daniel Shue <dshue@best.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 14:32:23 -0700 Message-ID: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? Can anyone direct me in the right direction or have any suggestions?
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 9 May 1997 23:59:36 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5l0dp8$78e$1@news2.voicenet.com> References: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> Daniel, Why don't you just buy openstep for Intel? It wil lscream on your machine......just make sure your components are compatable. -Darren Daniel Shue (dshue@best.com) wrote: : I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different : OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of : jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school : use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At : first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell : it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around : $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, : 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is : posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for : my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How : compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? : Can anyone direct me in the right direction or have any suggestions?
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXt Laser Printer - Manual Paper Feed Problems Date: 9 May 1997 22:58:57 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i have a 400 dpi NeXT laser printer connected to my NeXT turbo slab. while printing, when i select the manual feed option from the print panel and don't feed the paper manully on time, the printer automatically feeds from the input paper tray instead of giving me the message 'your printer is waiting for paper'. also lately, i am not able to manually feed the paper and i get the message 'paper is jammed in your printer'. i would really appreciate it if someone out there could help me out. thanks, hs
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Creating a new bootable HD Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:13:52 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, How do I create a second bootable HD? The NS3.3 has been loaded on to a 1GB drive and I want to migrate it to a 2GB drive. So what do I do? Martin
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ROM commands? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 20:16:04 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi again, Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would like to have more information. Martin
From: Marcus -Sebastian Martens <pe7a001@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q:Ess-1788 technical references? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 02:35:12 +0200 Organization: Uni-Hamburg Message-ID: <3373C2C0.C96@rzaixsrv2.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit would like to programm this 16 bit soundcard directly so that I can get an 16 bit output in dos! Who may help?
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: iRCam Board? Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 16:17:01 -0700 Organization: Code Monkeys of America Message-ID: <3373B06D.4688@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the iRCAM board? And if so how much does it cost? -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@earthlink.net (310)442-8086
From: jmajor@cdsnet.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs Subject: WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS############################ Date: Sat, 10 May 97 00:26:34 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5l0f72$e0m$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 10 May 1997 01:34:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <wnQVoWe00iV1M3Z4pv@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <gnQqtNi00iV1A3k7ch@andrew.cmu.edu> >That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the >instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. >Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline >stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not >at 66 MHz. If the pipeline is clocked at 66MHz then isn't the execution rate the same, assuming the ideal that instruction can be fed into the pipeline one per cycle? My impression from the 68040 User Manual was the "processor clock" was 66MHz and the "bus clock" was 33MHz, at least that is what it said. >> Oh, another minor correction: >> ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. > >Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- you've got to have a loop which fits in >the L1 cache... Sigh - another good joke gone to waste... - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NetInfo database read-only? Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 01:06:25 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Message-ID: <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo directory, but that didn't work...<sigh> Any ideas on this one? I haven't found the answer in the FAQ or NextAnswers... mikelea@access.digex.net "listen to your children instead of dissin' them!"-KRS-ONE "rush limbaugh, i'll hit that pig with an axe..." -Channel Live
From: Samuel Chow <samchow@idt.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Purchase a used Cube or Dump Win95 System? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 00:46:53 -0400 Organization: IDT Message-ID: <3373FDA5.6833@idt.net> References: <337397E7.CC14F8F6@best.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel Shue wrote: > > I have been wanting to get away from Windows 95 and look for a different > OS. However, I havn't used unix that much, so am a little afraid of > jumping into a new OS (Mach ?) when I still need a computer for school To learn UNIX, I recommend that you use Linux. Boy, you learn some much just by installing it. Actually, the installation isn't that difficult if you get some certain Linux distribution like Red Hat which I strongly recommend and Info-Magic. Also, there is a Mach MicroKernel based Linux available for the PC, which would satisfy the requirement of yours in using a Mach based OS. > use. I've seen used NeXT Cubes running anywhere from $400-$600. At > first this seems to be the best advantage because I can always resell > it. If I purchase the OpenStep 4.x, which I am assuming will run around > $300 for educational use, I would lose my exiting system. (166, 64M, Keep in mind that these cubes are monochrome. To add colors, you have to add the Dimension board which would cost $300 to $500 more and they don't come by easily. > 2.5G, 8x CDROM, 17" Viewsonic). The third thing I was thinking about is > posting a message to see if anyone was interested in trading an Cube for > my IBM Thinkpad (Model 300). What software will I be able to run? How > compatiable is the old/new OS with exiting Unix software? With your PC system, it will run OpenStep/Mach beautifully. 64 Mb, 2.5Gb, and nice 16-bit color, that is a good setup. It will run significantly faster than the cube. Later, Samuel Chow
From: Atindra Chaturvedi <atindra@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 23:59:29 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <337400B1.1EC8@mindspring.com> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanx to all who answered. The problem was fixed when I put the two 16M simms in the slots NEAREST to the power supply. Atindra.
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From: Samuel Goldberger <smg@orb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Configuring ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda for Black Hardware Date: Fri, 09 May 1997 23:59:32 -0800 Organization: Spherical Solutions Message-ID: <337429D3.6B6D@orb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've run into a wierd problem with a Seagate ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda hard drive. I've successfully attached the drive to my Turbo station, and then intialized and built it under 3.3. However, when I attempt to boot from the drive, I get: SCSI unexpected msg 1 sc: unexpected msg etc. I ordinarily associate this with bad termination jumpers, but I've checked with Seagate tech support, and verified that they are correct. I've turned off parity. Anyone run into this and have a fix? Urgent! Please email. -- Samuel M. Goldberger <smg@orb.com> Spherical Solutions 47 Myrtle Avenue • Mill Valley, CA 94941 415-383-2919--voice • 415-381-9556--fax
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From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help Configuring Quantum/Apple 700MB Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 04:09:37 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33742D41.65E1@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I been trying to get this drive to boot. I initialized and built the disk which was attached as id 1. I changed the id to 0 and attached the drive to my turbo color slab (TCS). I power up the machine and when it gets to the loading from disk, it doesn't boot. But the drive works fine as the second drive. The specs I got on the drive that it is an Apple 700MB drive built by Quantum. It seems it is a version of Quantum's Lightning Model. LT70S026. Any Ideas? Martin
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXt Laser Printer - Manual Paper Feed Problems Date: Fri, 9 May 1997 23:05:40 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970509230343.26265B-100000@kira> References: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: seran@osci.me.ttu.edu In-Reply-To: <5l0a7h$osb@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Checkout my web page that covers just this subject... http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html TjL
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: 7 May 1997 05:36:13 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> I'm looking for the all out killer machine. Something with Ultra Wide SCSI, a 1600X1200@24bit graphics ability, video capture, superfast processor, all out speed machine that's likely to run rhapsody... For development purposes. I'd love to hear any and all recommendations. Also the same question holds for a mac laptop. Thanks for any and all advice! :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: mseibert@ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: adb vs non-adb Date: Tue, 06 May 97 23:51:06 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5kog5m$j9k@news.jump.net> References: <m3207lrtws.fsf@absolut.foo.net> ADB is for Apple Desktop Bus (ie, you can use standard Apples Stuff (keyboards, mice) with the NeXT. In article <m3207lrtws.fsf@absolut.foo.net>, leffert@cs.uchicago.edu wrote: >I have a question regarding the Black Hardware. What exactly is this >ADB thing? I know that there were both adb and non-adb systems. >Which is better and what is the difference? > >Jon >--- >Jonathan B. Leffert <leffert@cs.uchicago.edu> >"But on the serious three-and-a-half percent tip, 'B' is the second letter >of the English Alphabet. You work it out." - Tone Def, "Fear of a Black Hat" >finger -l leffert@cs.uchicago.edu for PGP public key Matt please reply to mseibert@ita1.inow.com, news sux from here
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@nerc.com> Subject: Re: The back porch problem Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970506182232.17975A-100000@yorick.nerc.com> Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 18:23:43 -0400 References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970506105708.4937A-100000@kant> To: Jim McGilvray <jim@philo.mcgill.ca> In-Reply-To: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970506105708.4937A-100000@kant> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I've got a new Quantum Fireball 3.2GB disk that I can't initialize; `disk' > returns the dreaded "boot block extends beyond front porch" on my 3.2 > cube. Any idea what I've done wrong? You've got to partition the disk.. I'm not sure exactly how but it's an FAQ so you can probably find it in dejanews... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HD List For Black HW Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 11:39:00 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33749694.7AB1@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey all, Is there a list of HDs that you can use on Black Wardware? I know I saw on the FAQ that there were some HDs that were not recommended. The Seagate ST51080N was listed. But I have one on my Turbo Color Slab (TCS) and it works fine and came with the system. I am having trouble with a Quantum OEM drive (Apple 700MB). It seems to be one of Quantum's lightning series, but my drive is 700MB not 730MB. I did a successful build on the disk, rejumpered the drive to be 0 (like my boot drive), attached only this drive to the box, tried to boot it, NO LUCK... It knew the drive was there, but the reading from disk screen stayed there and that little drive on the screen, kept on spinning. Nothing... I know other people have had troubles booting other HDs, just look at some of the recent posts. But what the word on this? Thanks all. Martin
From: "Antini Gianni" <antini_walter@iol.it> Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Date: 10 May 1997 11:37:22 GMT Organization: Italia Online Message-ID: <022c7aad$7b179a40$LocalHost@isa> I have a big problem! This is my computer configuations: Pentium 120 48 Mb RAM HD 1600 My MAXTOR (Master) CD-ROM IDE (SLAVE) Award BIOS Vers. 4.50g Genius ESS1868 I have installed the SCSI card AdvanSys ISA PnP connect with PHILIPS CDD2600. Win95 (Standard) works well with CDD2600 but just as it was only a CDROM (reader). The GEAR software does't start, It stops with then message: "Testing unit online..........." I have also used Easy-CD Pro Vers. 1.1 but it stops too (also with the new .DLL). How can I configure the SCSI card? How can I configure the DIP-SWITCH on the CDD2600? What are the possible components who causes difficulty? There are other possible problems? All helps are precious. Write me by E-MAIL, please. Excuse me for my orrible english!!!! Gianni Antini. Florence, Italy. antini_walter@iol.it P.S. If you help me...... I send a postcard from Florence.
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 10 May 1997 16:33:19 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. Thanks. John
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ROM commands? Date: 10 May 1997 17:11:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5l2a7d$2evi@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> I posted a fairly extensive list of all the kernel flags I could find, most of which I have no idea what they do. Should be on peak.org. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: sport@ucla.edu (Sid Port) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Dimention Color Cube For Sale Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 00:12:18 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <336fc795.36328627@news.ucla.edu> FOR SALE NeXT dimention color cube (33mh) with everything 32&16 meg ram 1g HD optical drive bw & 17" color NeXT monitors Zykel Modem bw laser printer Practically all Next compatible software Perfect working condition $2000 or bo Sid Reply to sport@ucla.edu (310)454-4594
From: Marc.Lognoul@ping.be (Marc Lognoul) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with modems and Faxmodems Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 19:42:58 GMT Organization: CARMA S.P.R.L. Message-ID: <3375cec4.115975331@news.eunet.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello I'm a newbie in the NeXt community and I 'm experiencing some troubles with my modems when I try to connect them to my Turbo color slab. In the print manager I creat a new fax modem chosing any of the both default modem (HSD and interfa) and it never send or receive properly faxes. My modems are: Zoom V34X and US Robotics courrier V34 I'm also looking for a communication program able to send/receive with Zmodem protocol. Can someone help me? Please e-mail to Marc.Lognoul@ping.be
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From: tobias@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (template) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on TravelMate 6020 Date: 7 May 1997 13:10:08 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5kpuvg$g7n$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Keywords: next, notebook, TI hello, has anyone experience with nextstep on a Texas Instrument notebook, especially the TravelMate 6020? -- cheers Tobias Schrag
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <RKKGcMSX8GA.119@graylady.usa1.com> Date: 10 May 1997 17:22:38 GMT Control: cancel <RKKGcMSX8GA.119@graylady.usa1.com> Message-ID: <cancel.RKKGcMSX8GA.119@graylady.usa1.com> Sender: star@custom Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 12:14:39 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970507121244.8280B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <337176BF.27F8@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> On Wed, 7 May 1997, paulwang wrote: > Maybe SGI's machine is your best choice . I believe he specified that he wanted to be able to run Rhapsody for development purposes. Unless SGI and Apple merge anytime soon, the only OS one would be running on an SGI would be IRIX. -Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Creating a new bootable HD Message-ID: <E9yp77.21z@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 10:59:31 GMT In article <3373BDC0.7981@lei.com> Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> writes: > Hi all, > > How do I create a second bootable HD? The NS3.3 has been loaded on to a > 1GB drive and I want to migrate it to a 2GB drive. So what do I do? > Easy as pie! Attach the drive (set to SCSI-1, asynch; right SCSI-Id; properly terminated). Switch on the machine and answer 'yes' when asked about initialization of a new disk. Then login as 'root' and run BuildDisk.app... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: aks@vnp.com (Allan Schougaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Swap Drives in A Cube Date: 7 May 1997 18:19:28 GMT Organization: Pioneer Global Message-ID: <5kqh3g$gbf@wizard.pn.com> References: <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> In article <5knpmc$an6$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) writes: > John Michopoulos (yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil) wrote: > > My main Fujitsu 2263 drive started playing games after 6 years of > > continuous spinning. (sometimes waits for aver to start etc, I'amm afraid > > to restart the machine). So, I ordered a couple of SCSI II new drives. The > > question is: Is there a procedure documented anywhere that describes a > > painless way to mirror the old drive to the new and swap them ? > > Since you're using black hardware, you can simply use "Builddisk" > from the /NextAdmin folder - that's the easiest way IMHO. You can > proceed as follows: .. stuff deleted ... > Alternatively, replace step 5 with > gnutar -c --exclude /NewDisk -psf - / | (cd /NewDisk; gnutar xpf -) > this will copy the complete system. dump/restore might also be a way to preceed. --Allan
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone else using a Seagate 2.1 GB Barracuda, Narrow? Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 14:37:56 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970510143622.9036G-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If so, please let me know if you were able to get one NeXTStep partition on it. Mine comes out to 2064MB when formatted, so I was wondering if this is small enough to fit under the 2.0 gig limit? Any help appreciated TjL
From: mark@sfmny.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fast SCSI 2 disk drives..? Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 18:00:34 GMT Message-ID: <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> Hello all, I need to buy a new disk drive for one of my NEXTStation's. Mostly there are Fast SCSI 2 disk drives on the market today along with Fast-Wide/SCSI 3, etc.. Will Fast SCSI2 disks work with the older NeXT hardware? The machines are NeXTStation Turbo ADB. I read in NeXTAnswers that the M68k driver does not recognise the "fast" SCSI implementation. Does anybody have any experience with this? It has been too long since I have had to work on my NeXT hardware. Do I have to buy a disk that is just SCSI 2 and NOT Fast SCSI 2? thanks in advance Mark LeScoezec Network Administrator Soros Fund Management mark@sfmny.com NO JUNKMAIL PLEASE
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <851862718425@digifix.com> Date: 11 May 1997 03:58:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Request for NeXT printer cable pin-outs Date: 7 May 1997 20:47:52 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> Keywords: printer cable pin-outs Hi! I'm looking for the pin-outs for the next printer cable. I looked through the FAQs but couldn't find the information. Any help would be appreciated. By the way, I have black cube hardware. Matt -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Scott A. Perry" <sperry@os-knight.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on Sparc 5 w/dual ethernet Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 02:19:46 -0500 Organization: OS-Knight Corp. Message-ID: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help, I am trying to install NextStep 3.3 for Sparc on a Sparc 5 that has a SCSI/Ethernet SBus card in it. I try booting and it hangs on the network interface initialization. Are there any drivers that I can apply to get past this hump? (Removing the SBus card is not an option). Thanks in Advance. Desperately Seeking Solution, Scott A. Perry sperry@os-knight.com P.S. Could you please email me as I don't get a chance to read this group as often as I'd like (I just can't seem to get away from those 4 hours/night of sleep). Again, thanks. Scott
From: mseibert@nospam_ita1.inow.com (Matt Seibert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Thu, 08 May 97 12:30:29 GMT Organization: Wildfire Technologies Message-ID: <5ksh1j$2f9@news.jump.net> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> I don't know why this is, but I also had trouble. I got the specs for the Stations, and they show a Max Ram of 32 (4 x 8MB). 8MB Simms will work fine, but I ahve never gotten 16MB sticks to go. I also got this same (or close to it) error in the Rom Window. My suggestion (for ease of use) is to get 8 MB Sticks. They are pretty cheap now, and give them a try. Matt In article <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com>, atindra@mindspring.com wrote: >I purchased a NextStation Color Turbo with no memory or HD. Installed a >St51080 Seagate and 2x16M SImms. On boot, I get to ROM Monitor and type >bfd to boot from a floppy NS 3.3. Chugs for a few seconds and then >"Exception #4 (0x10) at PC ----- and SP 0x9fff106 " >Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with >an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Isnt this LESS than the SP address shown on >the exception ? All other slots have no memory. Any other combination of >slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing >system window ! >Extended SCSI tests are OK. > >DAzed and COnfused. > >TIA. > >Atindra.
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! Trying to install NextStep 3.3 on S Date: 11 May 1997 09:04:11 GMT Message-ID: <19970511130401.JAA19175@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <33757312.1411@os-knight.com> the sbus ethernet card on the sparc 5 runs a standard solaris driver, pre installed. 1. try doing a boot -r from the ok prompt, to add the driver maybe. 2. antares makes an sbus card with driver for $500 if all else fails. good luck UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 06:08:19 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970508060653.4087A-100000@kira> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Atindra Chaturvedi <atindra@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> Make sure you are using SIMMs in pairs, starting with the socket nearest the power supply... and the pairs should be the same as each other (ie each one in the pair should be identical) Don't know if this is the problem or not... TjL
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 11 May 1997 09:05:23 GMT Message-ID: <19970511130500.JAA19198@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> the ultra scsi drive runs in scsi 2 mode if attached to a scsi 2 controller. quantum fireball might be a better choice at $395 UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Printers under Openstep Date: 11 May 1997 09:07:47 GMT Message-ID: <19970511130700.JAA19230@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5kvtkq$jui@news.acns.nwu.edu> go to www.lexmark.com UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: Hunter Modes <hmodes@socko.cdnow.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 11:19:38 -0400 Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i'm looking to experiment with NeXT 3.3 or 4.x.. i'm wondering what the pro/cons are for running it on a next turbostation color vs. a 486/66 intel machine.. any pointers would be helpful.. please reply via e-mail thanks! hmodes@cdnow.com
From: "Colin Foster" <cfoster@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which Toner Cartridge for N2000? Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:39:42 -0400 Organization: InterLog Internet Services Message-ID: <cfoster-1105971039420001@ip220-117.cc.interlog.com> What type of toner cartridge does an N2000 Laser Printer take?
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dazed and Confused ! Date: 8 May 1997 15:53:26 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5ksstm$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33714E45.47CD@mindspring.com> <5ksh1j$2f9@news.jump.net> >I don't know why this is, but I also had trouble. I got the specs for the >Stations, and they show a Max Ram of 32 (4 x 8MB). 8MB Simms will work fine, >but I have never gotten 16MB sticks to go. All Turbos (color and mono) can handle up to 128MB consisting of four 32MB SIMMs. They have four 72-pin SIMM slots, two banks, two per bank. Both slots in a bank must be filled with the same parts (no parity, speeds, etc). Bank 1 is the two SIMM slots nearest the power supply and must be filled first. >>Memory config shows Slot 2 and 3 (Front) with 32M PAge mode memory with >>an address of 0x9ffe--- !. Sounds like you stuck them in the wrong two slots! Two SIMMs will _only_ work in slot 1 and 2 nearest the power supply. >>Any other combination of >>slots for these two simms in the box does not even get the Testing >>system window ! Don't know about this - are you sure you tried the first two slots? - Gareth
From: xx yy <user@group.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: next newbie Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:10:41 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33766E11.5D7D@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I'm a newbie NeXT user. I just got a Cube 040 with a CDROM drive and an optical drive but no hard disk, running NEXTSTEP 2.1. I have a CD Rom for a 3.0 upgrade that comes with a floppy containing the 3.0 upgradeprepare.app. Problem: my Cube won't recognize the CDRom drive. It sees a device at sc0 but considers it a SCSI disk. It won't show up in the workspace either. The upgrade prepare app doesn't work either. How do I solve this? Should I get a hard drive (the Manual suggests that you can only add SCSI devices if you have an internal drive). If so: internal or external, what type? If internal, how do I put it in? Other problem: how do I acquire NEXTSTEP 3.3? Can somebody help me with all this? Thank you beforehand!! Maurice van Steensel M. VanSteensel@antrg.azn.nl (Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: ROM commands? Message-ID: <EA0Hx5.2Cn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 10:17:29 GMT In article <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> writes: > Hi again, > > Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your > are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would > like to have more information. > Typing a question mark or the word 'help' gives you a listing of all synopses on screen. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: novice question Message-ID: <E9v28q.19H@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:50:50 GMT In article <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> writes: > Hi all! > > Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to > recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one in > but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. > You didn't eject the floppy by sticking a pin into the manual eject hole, didn't you? What is the console log (Alternate-C in Workspace) telling when you put the floppy in? Does it work after login again? Or after a reboot? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: xx yy <user@group.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New attempt Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 19:02:59 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Trying again cos I didn't see my message appear: Hi all, I recently bought a NeXTCube 040 running NeXTSTEP 2.1 . I also have a NeXT CD-ROM player. Problem: the Cube won't recognize the CDROM drive. The Cube does not have a hard disk but boots from the optical, by the way so perhaps that is the problem. Anyway, the ROM monitor says at startup that it sees a CDROM drive at sc0 sg0 target5, so it looks like it sees a HD not a CD player. After that I get a message that it doesn't recognize the disk label so it really looks like ti expects a HD at sc0. I have a NEXT 3.0 upgrade on CDROM that I would very much like to use but I don't know how at the moment. Can anyone help me? The manual suggests that I need an internal HD for external SCSI devices to work. Is that so or can I (in case I need a HD which I do anyway) just daisy-chain the lot. I'm stuck so I would very much appreciate any help. Finally: does anybody know how I can get NEXTSTEP 3.3? Thanks a lot Maurice van Steensel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: replacement keyboard Message-ID: <E9v2J6.1A5@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:57:06 GMT In article <5klbjp$kk0$1@new-news.cc.brandeis.edu> lashell@jensen.cc.brandeis.edu (Sean La Shell) writes: > Hi, > > We need a new keyboard for a NeXT station slab. Can anyone > tell me where to get one at a good price? Is it by any > chance the same as a Mac keyboard? > Mac mice and keybords work on ADB machines only. > While we're at it, my mouse is dying, too. One of the > buttons clicks multiple times for every time I click once. > Our technician swapped the left and right switches so that > the left one works now (since that's the one I use most). > That solution is fine for now, but sometime I'll need > another mouse. I assume I could get one of those from the > same companies that make keyboards? > Try c.s.n.marketplace, first. Replacement mice are MS Bus Mice with modified pinout. DancingBear used to sell Logitec mice with adaptor plugs. A schematic for the adaptor is in the FAQ on Peanuts <peanuts.leo.org> Official hardware support is via BellAtlantic, but that costs an arm and a leg, AFAIK. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Request for NeXT printer cable pin-outs Message-ID: <E9v2rw.1Aw@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 12:02:19 GMT In article <5kqppo$8t8$1@darla.visi.com> goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) writes: > Hi! I'm looking for the pin-outs for the next printer cable. > I looked through the FAQs but couldn't find the information. > Any help would be appreciated. By the way, I have black > cube hardware. > 1 = Clk, 2 = Data in, 3 = Data out1, 4 = Data out2, 5 = Pwr enable, 6-9 = Gnd The thing is a custom synch cirquit with high speed differencial output. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Fast SCSI 2 disk drives..? Message-ID: <E9uzx9.17A@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:00:45 GMT In article <3370c1ba.427727599@raptor> mark@sfmny.com writes: > Hello all, > > I need to buy a new disk drive for one of my NEXTStation's. Mostly > there are Fast SCSI 2 disk drives on the market today along with > Fast-Wide/SCSI 3, etc.. Will Fast SCSI2 disks work with the older > NeXT hardware? The machines are NeXTStation Turbo ADB. I read in > NeXTAnswers that the M68k driver does not recognise the "fast" SCSI > implementation. Does anybody have any experience with this? It has > been too long since I have had to work on my NeXT hardware. Do I have > to buy a disk that is just SCSI 2 and NOT Fast SCSI 2? > Might be the answer is not specific enough, i.e. answering "which drive to buy" but... All black machines of all models only support SCSI-1, asynch operation. Any drive will work that allows for this mode. If the device isn't automatically disabling SCSI-2 commands (or has no switch to do so) the device will cause problems during simultaneous SCSI operations. If it doesn't allow for asynch mode the drive will not be bootable and can cause spurious driver problems that might render the OS inoperable. Unfortunately, you can find modern SCSI disk drives that automagically disable unsupported features and some who simply refuse to downgrade by any means. As there is no easy method to tell whether a certain drive might or might not work, ask you dealer for SCSI-1, asynch mode and refuse to buy from anybody who doesn't guaranty for this feature or let you turn in the drive with full refund after some trial period. And make sure you get a sufficient data sheet... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NetInfo database read-only? Message-ID: <E9v0oI.181@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 11:17:05 GMT In article <336fd4ad.29438400@news.digex.net> hippykill@my.own.bad.site (Hippykill) writes: > I just got a NextStation and I've been learning how to set it up...but > my NetInfo database won't let me write to it...I've logged on as > root and tried doing dwrites and using NetInfo manager and User > Manager but I always get a message that says 'all objects are > read only' I tried chmoding 0777 all the stuff in the /etc/netinfo > directory, but that didn't work...<sigh> Any ideas on this one? > I haven't found the answer in the FAQ or NextAnswers... > NetInfo has a feature that allows the NI admin to grant superuser rights to a local admin without granting NI admin rights or only restricted ones. This is done by means of the '_writers' and '_writers_password' properties of the corresponding NI directory, AFAIK. If the NI admin happened to not give you the password I have no proven method other than replacing the NI database with a pristine one out of /usr/templates/client/etc/netinfo (but this will make you loose all site customization!). Anyway, you might want to try whether 'nidump' and 'niload' doesn't do the trick to remove those properties. But Marc Majka might have anticipated that break in attempt and included a check into 'niload' also ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: John Walter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 20:26:09 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Message-ID: <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the Compaq Deskpro 6000?
From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 21:16:51 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> References: <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Cc: John Walter In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from NextAnswers: http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the builtin network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the netflex nic. Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com
From: Alex Hartley <alexhrt@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Software password Date: 11 May 1997 15:23:01 -0700 Organization: Alex Hartley and Associates Message-ID: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am changing my NeXT '30 cube motherboard. The new board used to boot from the ethernet and has a password. I can't make it boot from the hard drive because I don't know the password. Is there a way around this? Thanks! Alex
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Thu, 8 May 1997 14:36:18 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <wnQVoWe00iV1M3Z4pv@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 8-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.ed > Its not a well known fact but the 68040 CPU does clock doubling; i.e. > a 33MHz 68040 has an external bus clock speed of 33MHz but an internal > processor clock speed of 66MHz. The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a 486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. It is true that m68k uses an internal clock rate double that of the external interface (the bus speed), but this results from a more RISC-like design with a relatively low CPI (cycles per instruction) of around 3, whereas the '486 has a CPI of closer to 10 or so. > The 68040 is a better CPU than the 486 anyway (IMHO) so thinking your 486/66 > is "twice as fast" as a 68040/33 is _completely_ wrong. Oh, definitely-- a 33 MHz 68040 provides roughly similar performance to a 486DX2/66. Trying to make performance comparisions based on clock speed without considering CPI is completely futile. Not that considering CPI helps that much either; the only reliable benchmark for judging performance is timing the real world task(s) that the two systems will perform. MIPS, MFLOPS, Dhrystones, Whetstones are all but useless, and even the SPECmark tests aren't that meaningful considering the games chip manufacturers and OS vendors play with specialized, hand-tuned compilers. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Martin Lightheart <martin@lei.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB IO box for NeXT? Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 18:36:53 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <33764A05.6654@lei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Has anybody used Beehive Technologies ADB I/O box on their ADB equiped NeXT boxes? Does or did, anyone make any devices that you attached to the ADB bus on the NeXT boxes. I am interested in adding stuff to my NeXT (TCS) to do things. Thanks. Martin
From: rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any Recommendations for fast SCSI Controllers / Harddisks? Date: 11 May 1997 22:39:12 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5l5hqg$ju8@news.tuwien.ac.at> I am thinking of upgrading my SCSI subsystem, and would like to know if anyone has recommendations, experiences aso. My current configuration is: Asus P/I-P6NP5, PPro 200/256kB ASUS 2940 Non-Wide with Seagate ST32550N 2G (Bacrracuda) I am considering a Seagate ST34501W, 4.5 (Cheetah) and maybe a ASUS 2940 UW but I have heard, that there are better/faster controllers. The controller/hardisk I am looking for needs to be supported by NeXTstep 3.3. Thanks in advance for any information! If you only send me your information per e-mail, I will generate a summary post with all the tips and hints I get. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4585,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto:rft@cg.tuwien.ac.at Vienna University of Technology - http://www.cg.tuwien.ac.at/~rft/
From: John Walter Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 11 May 1997 23:06:07 GMT Organization: A Corporation who shall Remain Nameless Message-ID: <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> References: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> In article <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) writes: > In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on the > > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > > > > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from > NextAnswers: http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the builtin > network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the > netflex nic. > > Scott Turner > FirstSight Inc. > http://www.1stsight.com > vision@1stsight.com Did you add on a host adaptor or do you need the adaptec driver for the standard configuration? Sorry if this question is naive, I'm not too familiar with PC hardware. I'd be interested in your experiences. Did you have to add anything special to the standard configuration to get it to work?
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery Page Date: 8 May 1997 19:39:46 GMT Organization: Phoenix DataNET! http://www.phoenix.net/pdn/ Message-ID: <5kta62$loo$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> Being the type of guy that rushes in where angels fear to tread, I have just put up a web page that could grow into a useful source of information about the logic board batteries for the 68k NeXT. So far I have put up a brief explanation of what the batteries are, and have a photo of one of the batteries. I invite people to drop in and give comments - is this a useful page? A similar page that I do for the Mac has been well received, and I would like to produce a similar useful page for the 68k NeXT hardware. How does the single photo that I have available look on a NeXT? This page is NOT designed to be the final word in maintenance, it could become a quick reference for real hardware folks, and could answer some questions for folks that have hardware concerns. Useful comments will be happily implemented, criticism will be taken in the spirit with which it is offered. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/next/> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: John LaViola <jlaviola@iconn.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Configuring ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda for Black Hardware Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:41:19 -0400 Organization: i-conn Message-ID: <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> References: <337429D3.6B6D@orb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Samuel Goldberger wrote: > > I've run into a wierd problem with a Seagate ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda > hard drive. I've successfully attached the drive to my Turbo station, > and then intialized and built it under 3.3. However, when I attempt to > boot from the drive, I get: > > SCSI unexpected msg 1 > sc: unexpected msg > etc. > I've used many Barracuda 2LP and 4LP drives and never had this problem. In fact installation was quite uneventful. What SCSI controller are you using? What driver?
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@BellAtlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:26:02 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <slrn5n75tn.lkn.terry@arcane.arcane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Wilcox wrote: > I think it says something positive about NeXT hardware when > we're favorably comparing a six year old NeXT to a newer PC. > The 486 DX2/66 arrived years after the NeXTstation. Heck, I compare a NeXT TurboColor slab favorably to my PowerPC 604/132 in terms of user responsiveness. It doesn't, however, compare very well when rendering the Mandlebrot set, but then I think that would be a bit much to expect. Still, I'm a little peeved that my one year old PowerMac clone performs, in many respects, worse than a 5 year old 68040 box. - Jeff Dutky
From: psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 01:18:29 -0500 Organization: the Dragon Distribution: inet Message-ID: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, ethernet that is. The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean New OS install. The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! When I log on as root, the icons in my apps dock are generic icons, and I have NO /NextApps directory/folder... All I have is /NextDeveloper, Library, Tour... and therefor, NO services... I want to reformat the drive... and begin FRESH... I have files that have NOT been touched since 1990... I need an OS... I did manage to upgrade the cube to 28MBs of RAM, and it already comes with an '040 with a 660HD and MO drive... no floppy... I want to connect it to my existing HOME ethernet network, and turn it into a possible print/file server... I did get the NeXT LaserWriter with it... I already have a PMac 7100/66/2xCD/56MB RAM/1GB HD... MacIIci 32MB/250 HD/DayStar cache card... Mac SE 4/80... HP DeskWriter w/Mini EtherPrint box... all connected with Cat 5 to a Dayna MiniHub-8... I have spent a good part of the weekend reading what I have in print, including the "Upgrading to Release 2.0", and I have surfed the various Net homepages, and found some GREAT FUTURE INFO... but, I have a really operating OS... In my searches, I was not able to find a place, where I could download ANY version... Did I miss something?? At NeXTes homepage, I found the multiple-K stuff without a problem, I am NOT an Enterprise... I just want to get a simple basic OS... Bonuses would be WriteNow... Mathematica... Websters... etc... I have emailed the folks at NeXT... and seeing it was the weekend, I really did not expect to hear anything til Monday... I did get an AutoAnswer from there mailer... Where can I find and OS!! I am willing to spend a couple hundred bucks for a LEGAL copy (factory sealed). Or, I do have a T1 at work and a major credit card... SCSI storage is NOT a problem... I carry a 3.2GBs HD around for work... I also have a 7300/180 with 2GBs... At home, externally, there is a 500HD, 1GB HD, 230HD 3.5" MO, 45MB SyQuest, and a 1xCD... I am also planning to hookup a TeleBit T-3000... In the new apartment, I'm looking at ISDN... July 1st time frame... In the new apartment, it looks like there will be at least three WinTels; 386/Win3.X, 486/Win95, 596/NT4 added to the HomeNet... Looking to go to TCP/IP... Again, after all that background info, I come back to my basic question... Where can I get a LEGAL version of a NeXT OS that will run on a NeXT 040/28MB RAM/660MB HD/256MB MO???? I you have any other comments, please send them along to me... Please don't spam... If I did miss something... Sorry, but I could not easily find it in the FAQs online... I have done some reading in my life, and I generally enjoy useful, practical information... I also submit the above with the knowledge that MacOS 8.0 is just around the corner, and Rhapsody's light might just be seen at the end of the WWDC next week's tunnel. Thanks in advance, Psybeast psybeast@pond.com www.pond.com/~psybeast ----- "He who has imagination without learning has wings but no feet" - Chinese future cookie
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From: "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: novice question Date: Thu, 08 May 1997 22:49:40 -0400 Organization: Harvard University Message-ID: <337290C3.32FC845D@fas.harvard.edu> References: <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> <E9v28q.19H@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 To: Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <336EACDC.921BDF8C@fas.harvard.edu> "Jean R. Moreau, Jr." > > <moreau@fas.harvard.edu> writes: > > Hi all! > > > > Just got a NeXTstation Turbo and I'm having trouble getting it to > > recognize my DOS floppies. It worked the very first time I put one > in > > but now when I put the same disk in it won't work. > > > You didn't eject the floppy by sticking a pin into the manual eject > hole, > didn't you? What is the console log (Alternate-C in Workspace) > telling > when you put the floppy in? Does it work after login again? Or > after a > reboot? Thanks for all the suggestions Steve Haynes was able to help me out Jean
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: 9 May 1997 03:45:53 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <wnQVoWe00iV1M3Z4pv@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >The Motorola CPU's are not really using clock doubling. A 33 MHz 68040 >CPU can execute only 33 million NOP opcodes in one second, whereas a >486DX2/66 can execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. What exactly does the term "clock doubling" mean then? [honest to Gawd question, no flame intended]. I was lead to believe it meant doubling the external clock for internal timing. Damn - I even went to Motorola's web page to double check this, got it wrong anyway... Oh, another minor correction: ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. :-) - Gareth
From: xx yy <user@group.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Another novice question Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 14:55:21 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? Thanks for the answer! Maurice van Steensel m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 09:25:41 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1205970925410001@59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <slrn5n75tn.lkn.terry@arcane.arcane.com> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> > Heck, I compare a NeXT TurboColor slab favorably to my PowerPC > 604/132 in terms of user responsiveness. It doesn't, however, > compare very well when rendering the Mandlebrot set, but then > I think that would be a bit much to expect. Still, I'm a little > peeved that my one year old PowerMac clone performs, in many > respects, worse than a 5 year old 68040 box. > You mean I'm not the only one who noticed this? I have a PowerCenter 132 with 40 Megs of memory and my Turbo Dimension cube seems just as responsive. In fact, the PPC is only slightly faster at doing certain drawing tasks such as selecting and dragging complex filled objects. The cube prints MUCH faster than the Mac to the SAME printers (an HP LJ III and a LW Select 360). And, of course, the NeXT never crashes. My Mac hasn't crashed yet this morning, but give it time. Mitch
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@BellAtlantic.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:28:36 -0400 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <slrn5n75tn.lkn.terry@arcane.arcane.com> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> <19970512131957.AAA14376@59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > You mean I'm not the only one who noticed this? I have a > PowerCenter 132 with 40 Megs of memory and my Turbo Dimension > cube seems just as responsive. In fact, the PPC is only > slightly faster at doing certain drawing tasks such as selecting > and dragging complex filled objects. The cube prints MUCH > faster than the Mac to the SAME printers (an HP LJ III and a > LW Select 360). I am a little suprised that we haven't seen a whole bunch of postings noting this. I would bet that a lot of folks, after Apple bought NeXT, went out and bought a used NeXT box (they're really inexpensive) just to see what the new MacOS might look like. Anyone using a Mac and a NeXT simultaneously would have noticed this! I suspect that many of the Mac users who did this have been silent on this out of shame, grief or frustration. Just for the record, I'm one of those Mac users who only bought a NeXT after the Apple aquisition. I fall into the grief and frustration categories. > And, of course, the NeXT never crashes. My Mac hasn't crashed > yet this morning, but give it time. This crashing tendancy is one of the "many respects" in which my PowerMac performs "worse than a 5 year old 6804 box" to which I was referring in my post. After using the NeXT for only a few months my entire concept of acceptable stability has changed. My entire career in computers has been on the Mac (I started with a Lisa 2/5 at the age of 16) and I had become very forgiving of the bomb box. Never again. - Jeff Dutky
From: rbumpus@comp.uark.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: 12 May 1997 17:55:03 GMT Organization: The University of Arkansas Message-ID: <5l7lhn$rf1@picayune.uark.edu> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> In article <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> xx yy <user@group.azn.nl> writes: > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > Thanks for the answer! > > Maurice van Steensel > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl I remember reading somewhere that you can, but the drive must be running in SCSI-1, asynchronous mode. If the drive cannot emulate that, then I don't think it'll work. Bob
From: Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:17:41 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Message-ID: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Can I connect Mac and NeXT using just one cable (twisted pair( with RJ 45, without purchasing a hub? Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black printer hooked up to my NeXT? many thanks in advance serge
From: Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:19:45 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Message-ID: <33777B61.5B51663C@conextions.com> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit xx yy wrote: > > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > Thanks for the answer! > > Maurice van Steensel > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl Your e-mail address does not work. You can use any SCSI drive, just make sure it supports async mode. I had some troubles using sync SCSI hds on old black hardware. serge
From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS!!!!!!!!! Date: Mon, 12 May 97 20:42:09 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5l7v6b$dqq$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:13:03 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970512161032.29372E-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <5kt4sf$4r8@crcnis3.unl.edu> <mitchell.allen-0905971232040001@205.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <5l0071$ahh$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <slrn5n75tn.lkn.terry@arcane.arcane.com> <3376A9E5.2B58@BellAtlantic.net> <19970512131957.AAA14376@59.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <33775342.25D6@BellAtlantic.net> On Mon, 12 May 1997, Jeffrey S. Dutky wrote: > Just for the record, I'm one of those Mac users who only bought > a NeXT after the Apple aquisition. I fall into the grief and > frustration categories. Look at it this way: Soon the OS that performs so well on a 25 Mhz 040 will be coming to your (10x faster) PPC. I only hope Apple can survive long enough to bring it to market. I weep for the future of personal computers if they fail. -Isaac
From: "N. Albert Bacharach, Jr." <N.A.Bacharach@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hyperdata Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:46:14 -0400 Organization: Law Office N. Albert Bacharach Message-ID: <33778FA6.3039@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know about or have experence with a Hyperdata MediaGo 850 Pro? I'm thinking of buying a 13.3 xga with a mmx166 & 80Mb of dram, but would appreciate any information about the company and its products.
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 12 May 1997 21:48:12 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> wrote: > > Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black > printer hooked up to my NeXT? > Nothing if you install CAPer on the NeXT side (just use the LaserWriter8), see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html - Frank --- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to get 68040 monitor socket terminator manufactured ? Date: 12 May 1997 14:59:53 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> Hi, I'm considering purchasing a Color NeXTStation and netbooting my cube. To use the color monitor - but not the mono monitors I'd like to put a terminator in the monitor socket of the cube as described in the FAQ topic on booting a headless machine. Where could I take the pin lay out and have such a terminator constructed? Thanks, Emmett
From: Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone gotten USR Sportster 28800 to work in OPENSTEP? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 03:18:15 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am running OPENSTEP for Mach for Intel and I have been trying to get my modem (USR 28800) to work under OPENSTEP. I figured USR is a big modem seller, so how could my modem not work. But, it doesn't. What happens is (since my modem is PnP) when I am booting with "-v", it is reported that OPENSTEP found a USR blah blah blah. Then a little later in the boot process, a message says "ISASerialPort Could Not Detect Chip" or something like that. I swapped my 28800 with a Sportster 14400 and it worked. The 14400 was configured for Com 1, IRQ 4. By the way, the 28800 had no jumper shunts on it (PnP). I put the 28800 in again, this time, putting jumper shunts on the 28800 so that it was set on Com 2, IRQ 3. The modem works fine in DOS/Windows, but when I boot OPENSTEP and hit "-v" to show messages, it is reported that I have a Serial Port on IRQ 4. I ran Configure.app after it was done booting and set the port on Com 2, IRQ 3 and rebooted, but it said the same thing. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New attempt Date: 13 May 1997 00:37:15 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5l8d3r$osb$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> In <33767A53.21B8@group.azn.nl> xx yy wrote: > Trying again cos I didn't see my message appear: With a return address like user@group.azn.nl you won't get any mail back either. > I recently bought a NeXTCube 040 running NeXTSTEP 2.1 . I also have a NeXT > CD-ROM player. Problem: the Cube won't recognize the CDROM drive. The Cube > does not have a hard disk but boots from the optical, by the way so perhaps > that is the problem. Anyway, the ROM monitor says at startup that it sees a > CDROM drive at sc0 sg0 target5, so it looks like it sees a HD not a CD > player. After that I get a message that it doesn't recognize the disk label > so it really looks like ti expects a HD at sc0. I presume you mean sd0. NeXTstep 2.1 did not have proper drivers for CDROM file systems. Shortly after NS2.1, NeXT released a demo disk of Educational software that had upgraded drivers. > I have a NEXT 3.0 upgrade on > CDROM that I would very much like to use but I don't know how at the moment. If you have the floppy disk that comes with the NS3.0 upgrade, it has CDROM drivers on it. It also has a completely new version of sdmach/odmach which you can use as part of the upgrade process. > Can anyone help me? The manual suggests that I need an internal HD for > external SCSI devices to work. Is that so or can I (in case I need a HD > which I do anyway) just daisy-chain the lot. I'm stuck so I would very much > appreciate any help. If you do not have an internal HD, you need to provide in some other way two of the hardware functions that the internal drive normally supplies. First, you need a SCSI bus terminator at the internal end of the bus, connecting to the 2x25 male connector on the CPU board. Second, you need a source of SCSI TERMPWR somewhere on the bus. This is supplied by the internal disk in the standard hardware configuration. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: tsnmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE Date: Tue, 13 May 97 02:10:11 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5l8ida$1k4$2@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.x --- does it work with a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual ? Date: 13 May 1997 03:28:13 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5l8n4d$io1@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> I'm planning to get a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual P5/133 motherboard to run Solaris/x86 and OPENSTEP 4.x on it. I know that OS won't make any use of the board's MP capabilities, but does it work at least? My setup would be like this ..... Tyan Tomcat III/dual 2x Intel P133 NCR 83x110 SCSI MGA Millenium 4MB (Quantum 3.2GB) (SMC Ultra 16 ISA) (SB16/PnP) The first four parts of the list would be new, I just want to upgrade my current (and more and more unstable) 486/120 system. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Those sound sockets (?) on the cube and on the SONY CD-ROM Date: 12 May 1997 21:28:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> Hi, Are those sockes on the back of a cube used to attach speakers? Apologies if this is a simple question but I don't have a set of speakers to test this hypothesis. There are similar sockets on the back of a NeXT SONY CD-ROM. How are they used? Is it possible to feed the signal from the CD-ROM into the cube using these sockets or is using the sound jack on the front of the CD-ROM the only option? I've heard people say nice things about the quality of sound that can come from a cube. They aren't also feeding sound from the CD-ROM to the speakers the same way are they? Thanks, Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Date: 12 May 1997 21:30:14 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> Hi, Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does one have to have a color system? Thanks, Emmett
From: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Infusion Subject: Infusion BBS Software Message-ID: <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Date: 12 May 97 00:00:30 GMT I just thought I'd let everyone know.... There is finally a BBS Software with all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity, but without the bugs and bad support. Infusion BBS Software is a new generation in BBS Software, modeled after OBV/2 and Iniquity with everything that the sysop can imagine..and more. Some basic features are: o Multi-node upto 255 concurrent users o Light-bar support [arrow keys] o Requires NO Fossil Driver [selectable FOSSIL, ASYNC, and Digiboard for each node] o Online Configuration [menu editor, string editor, evemt editor, node editor, system editor, etc] o Pipe Color Codes o MCI Codes o Powerful scripting language o Internal One-Liners, Blacklist, voting booth, etc o Internal Z-Modem, X-Modem, Y-Modem, Y-modem-g [no limit to external protocols] o Internal COMM Program with internal protocols, Auto Up/DL o Great support o Basically all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity combined Infusion has been picked up by fuEl [international art group], and Infusion 1.0th will be released June 10th. Come to the Infusion Home-Page at http://web.wt.net/~sparky/ibbs/ and jump into the JAVA Based Chatroom, or come to the ANNEX, the official Infusion IRC Server [irc.annex.net] #infusion / #bbs send the author skaboy101 [Grant Passmore] E-mail at skaboy@usa.net -lata skaboy101
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 01:52:04 -0600 From: willem@gintic.gov.sg Subject: running NeXT color station without keyboard, soundbox, etc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863505607.7273@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi there, Does anybody out there have experience with running a color-slab without monitor, keyboard, soundbox and mouse. I would like to run a system just with access from the network only. Is it necessary to make some changes in system-configuration and/or rc.local, etc. If anybody did this before, could you let me know? Thanks, Willem -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Date: 13 May 1997 06:25:57 GMT Control: cancel <33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Message-ID: <cancel.33765d9e.0@data.wt.net> Sender: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 13 May 1997 11:04:33 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: > Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a > NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. > I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI > interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any > problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his > fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. Works fine in my Turbo station. I had no problems whatsoever. Good choice for a disk IMHO. :-) HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 08:58:18 -0400 Organization: Conextions, Inc. Message-ID: <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: larryf@halcyon.com Frank M. Siegert wrote: > > Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> wrote: > > > > Does anybody know what I have to do on a Mac side to get access to black > > printer hooked up to my NeXT? > > > > Nothing if you install CAPer on the NeXT side (just use the LaserWriter8), > see http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html > > - Frank > > --- > * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net > * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy Thank you! Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? What does it mean "null modem" cable keeping in mind ethernet TP cable? I used "null modem" cables for serial ports, but never heard about ones for the ethernet.... with kind regards, serge
From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Date: 13 May 1997 15:34:42 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: <slrn5nh1ve.ol2.terry@arcane.arcane.com> References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> On 12 May 1997 21:30:14 -0700, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > >Hi, > >Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does >one have to have a color system? You don't need a Sound Box with a cube. The mono monitor provides the same functionality. You've got a microphone jack, a headphone jack, and I think there's stereo out (I've never paid attention). The color systems need a Sound Box. Their monitors aren't as cool as the mono monitors. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com
From: test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott Turner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compaq Deskpro 6000 Date: 13 May 1997 15:33:16 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <5la1js$o18@winter.erols.com> References: <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> Cc: John Walter In <5l5jcv$9se@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > In article <5l5d03$i5b@winter.erols.com> test@mujjahadin.erols.com (Scott > Turner) writes: > > In <5l5a11$b4h@cgs1.bankamerica.com> John Walter wrote: > > > Has anyone had any luck getting Nextstep or Openstep (Mach) running on > the > > > Compaq Deskpro 6000? > > > > > > > Yes, very succesfully . Be sure to use the adaptec 3.37 driver from > > NextAnswers: > {{\xurl http://www.next.com > }<} > http://www.next.com. I have not been able to use the > builtin > > network card yet, waiting to here back from next on the drivers for the > > netflex nic. > > > > Scott Turner > > FirstSight Inc. > > > {{\xurl http://www.1stsight.com > }<} > http://www.1stsight.com > > vision@1stsight.com > > Did you add on a host adaptor or do you need the adaptec driver for the > standard configuration? Sorry if this question is naive, I'm not too > familiar with PC hardware. I'd be interested in your experiences. Did > you have to add anything special to the standard configuration to get it > to work? > I used the adapted 2940U that came with it. Scott Turner FirstSight Inc. http://www.1stsight.com vision@1stsight.com
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another novice question Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 17:36:38 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33790916.FA7@antrg.azn.nl> References: <337791C9.74D3@group.azn.nl> <33777B61.5B51663C@conextions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > > xx yy wrote: > > > > Sorry to bother you with this, but I'm new, so.... > > > > Can I use a SCSI2 HD drive in my NeXT Cube?? > > > > Thanks for the answer! > > > > Maurice van Steensel > > m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl > > Your e-mail address does not work. You can use any SCSI drive, just make > sure it supports async mode. I had some troubles using sync SCSI hds on > old black hardware. > > serge Thank you to everyone who replied! I should be able to fix it now!
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Those sound sockets (?) on the cube and on the SONY CD-ROM Date: 13 May 1997 15:24:48 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5la140$3el2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> >Are those sockes on the back of a cube used to attach speakers? There are no such things on the back of a cube. On the back of the MegaPixel display, yes! >How are they used? Line out, just like your stereo. >Is it possible to feed the signal from the CD-ROM into >the cube using these sockets or is using the sound jack >on the front of the CD-ROM the only option? No. These two sockets are line out. There is a microphone input plug on the back of the MegaPixel which you could use, but the sampling quality on the mic input isn't high and will all but kill CD quality sound. Your best bet is to either get DigitalEars (a CD quality input device that plugs into the DSP port) or buy a CD-ROM that allows transfer of music data over the SCSI bus. OmniCD supports some but not all CD-ROMs allows this, NeXT's original CD-ROM being the most notable. - Gareth
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can you use a sound box with a Mono cube ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EA4o74.L0v@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:23:28 GMT References: <5l8qki$96n@slip.net> <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5l8qom$9g0@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > >Hi, > >Can one use a NeXT Sound Box with a Mono cube or does >one have to have a color system? > Sure, you can do this. But then you'll have no monitor. One thing to watch out for, though, is that some cubes' power supplies are not designed to operate without a monitor connected, and will turn the machine off shortly after you turn it on. You can either find a newer power supply or attach something hefty inside (I use a toasted Quantum hard disk that won't spin up.) -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: 13 May 1997 19:18:49 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5laeqp$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Cc: atl2@lehigh.edu In <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hi all! > > Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to > PPro? > > Cheers! > > Alex > > it's more expensive! -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to get 68040 monitor socket terminator manufactured ? Date: 13 May 1997 19:30:07 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5laffv$cgm@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5l83sp$8sg@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > > I'm considering purchasing a Color NeXTStation and netbooting > my cube. To use the color monitor - but not the mono monitors > I'd like to put a terminator in the monitor socket of the cube > as described in the FAQ topic on booting a headless machine. > > Where could I take the pin lay out and have such a terminator > constructed? > > Thanks, > > Emmett > > I always thought this was a missed opportunity for some (low-profit) entre-punter. at the right price I'd buy at least two. (I'd make my own, except they don't let me play with sharp objects anymore, especially ones that plug in and get hot, ever since the time I handed the hot end to an associate who requested the soldering iron. this was while making up midi-like cables back in the early '80s). perhaps some custom cable house would accept a "bulk" order for these. I haven't heard of any third party (used) NeXT hardware folks selling these, anyone? what do you thik a fair price would be? (treatises on the meaning of Fair Price in a Free Market followed-up to comp.sys.mogul.billgates.wannabes) -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: tasco@primenet.com (Tasco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What version of NeXTSTEP supports PCI Date: 13 May 1997 13:49:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would just like to know what kind of box I can install version 3.2 on, or am I going to have to upgrade? Thx Eric Ulrich tasco@primenet.com
From: stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Strange ND System Problems Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:22 -0700 Organization: Montana State University Message-ID: <stryker-1305971638220001@news.montana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've owned a NeXTdimension system for the past 5 years and have been quite happy with it. I recently purchased a second ND system and have been experiencing some strange problems that I'd like to solve. The problems are: Columns of files in the browser view sometimes change to all black NeXTTV camera icon sometimes refuses to freeze a video image NeXTTV palette sometimes changes to all black Rare but real system freezes while Backspace screensaver is running Rare strange boots (system will fail to display a login window and require a reboot) None of these problems has ever manifested itself on my earlier system and I'm having trouble tracking down exactly what might be causing these problems--the dimension board, software, disk problems, RAM malfunctions, etc. System Details: 25MHz cube 64MB RAM NeXTdimension board with 32MB VRAM 400MB Internal HD 2GB External HD OpenStep 4.0 Developer Has anyone heard of or experienced similar problems? Thanks. -Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Christian Stryker || Burns Telecommunications Center | | Educational Technologist || Montana State University | | 406-994-4660 (voice) || 128-I EPS Building | | 406-994-7856 (fax) || Bozeman, MT 59717-3860 | | stryker@montana.edu || http://www.montana.edu/btc | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 04:34:32 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 13 May 1997 14:17:07 GMT, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: >Hi all! > >Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to >PPro? Don't buy one!! Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Configuring ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda for Black Hardware Date: 13 May 1997 23:13:40 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5lasj4$5vk$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <337429D3.6B6D@orb.com> <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jlaviola@iconn.net In <3376834F.4CF4@iconn.net> John LaViola wrote: > Samuel Goldberger wrote: > > > > I've run into a wierd problem with a Seagate ST32550N 2 gig Barracuda > > hard drive. I've successfully attached the drive to my Turbo station, > > and then intialized and built it under 3.3. However, when I attempt to > > boot from the drive, I get: > > > > SCSI unexpected msg 1 > > sc: unexpected msg > > etc. > > > > I've used many Barracuda 2LP and 4LP drives and never had this problem. > In fact installation was quite uneventful. What SCSI controller are you > using? What driver? Black hardware hasn't a big amount of different SCSI controllers and drivers. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Software password Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:53:42 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970513195257.6364B-100000@kira> References: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: alexhart@alexhart.com In-Reply-To: <3376477D.6A4D@primenet.com> This is the hardware password Take out the battery for a couple hours.... TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which Toner Cartridge for N2000? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 19:52:11 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970513195202.6364A-100000@kira> References: <cfoster-1105971039420001@ip220-117.cc.interlog.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Colin Foster <cfoster@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <cfoster-1105971039420001@ip220-117.cc.interlog.com> HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone gotten USR Sportster 28800 to work in OPENSTEP? Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:01:00 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970513195941.6364D-100000@kira> References: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3377daee.62548940@news.mindspring.com> I would have emailed you had you included a valid email address.... since you didn't, here's apost... I have a USRobotic sportster 56k (aka X2) modem working under OpenStep 4.1 .... sounds like you may not have all the drivers or something... TjL
From: Jim Stutt <jrs@kouzlo.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.1 for Intel - Drivers for new hardware Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 21:02:03 -0700 Organization: Organization? Message-ID: <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have the original CDs for NS and Developer for version 3.1 (the original Intel version). I have a spare PC with: P166 CPU 32MB RAM ATI Mach 64 PCI 2MB VRAM Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI TOSHIBA 2X CD Logitech 3 button mouse Is there any way to get drivers to be able to install the 3.1 CDs on this PC? I am used to SCO Unix and the BTLD (Boot Time Loadable Driver). Do these exist for NS? Or am I hosed and need to scratch this idea? Thanks in advance Jim Stutt Please post and email.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What version of NeXTSTEP supports PCI Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EA5CAD.5HC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 01:03:49 GMT References: <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3378d23d.20953108@news.primenet.com>, Tasco <tasco@primenet.com> wrote: >I would just like to know what kind of box I can install version 3.2 >on, or am I going to have to upgrade? 3.2 does a little bit of PCI, but not very much. The driver situation is pretty dire. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SPARC20 and NeXT3.3 Date: 14 May 1997 11:17:10 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5lc6vm$4tl$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <33788372.12A@mcs.com> Charlet B. Flader (cbflader@mcs.com) wrote: > Has anyone configured a standalone SPARC20 with > NeXT 3.3 user developer. I can get the software > installed but am still having the > following problems: ... > 2. I am unable to get my ZyXEL U1496 modem working > I have a straight 25 pin cable with a null > terminal adapter but am unable to move beyond > getting the DTR light activated on the modem? Sun hardware has a really funny interpretation of serial interfaces - I seem to rmember that they have two serial lines in one DB24, and in addition, use an unconventional method for hardware handshake. The easiest way to go about it is probably getting a cable that's spefific for Sun machines. Alternatively, ask on a Sun newsgroup for the wiring. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 09:08:27 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1405970908270001@187.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> > > My NeXT turbo color slab just recently decided not to stay off after I > pressed the stop button. It turns off the systerm, but the systerm > starts up a split second later. Anyone have that happen to them? > Check your preferences and see if you have turned on the switch that makes the computer restart after a shut-down. If this isn't it, you will have to go into the ROM monitor and check your settings. I have heard that you can type: bsd -p to toggle this feature on or off, but I wasn't successful with that. I had to resort to removing the battery from the Motherboard and leaving it out overnight which wipes the ROM monitor settings but will also get rid of the restarting problem. Mitch
From: santafe@mx.tcp-ip.or.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM ThinkPad 760EL Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 23:08:26 +0900 Organization: Tokai Communication Platform Network Message-ID: <santafe-1405972308260001@ppp026.ngy.tcp-ip.or.jp> I have an IBM ThinkPad 760EL. Can I run NextStep 3.3 or OpenStep 4.1 on it? Thanks
From: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 14 May 1997 15:23:10 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5lclcu$hfr$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> Cc: serge@conextions.com In <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> Serguei Bakhteiarov wrote: > Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with > RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just > directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? Test this with a Cross-TP-Cable or use a mini-HUB .. CIAO JUT -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 08:23:09 -0700 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180001405970823090001@news.sprynet.com> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com>, serge@conextions.com wrote: >Hi, > >Can I connect Mac and NeXT using just one cable (twisted pair( with RJ >45, without purchasing a hub? I made an RJ45 crossover cable to connect a Mac 7200 and a NeXTstation (68k black). The Next station side came up recognizing the network connection but I could never get the Mac network side to come up, even after restarting the Mac with the NeXTstation up first. Something about Open Transport I assume. PS. If you do make a crossover cable note that the Mac 7200 (perhaps others ) has non standard use of wires for Transmit and Receive. That is, the crossover is not symmetric. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: 14 May 1997 19:23:14 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <WEGMANN.97May14202315@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I installed NS 3.3 on an Artist PC Pentium 120MHz PCI (PnP) and after collecting the latest 3.3 drivers from NeXTanswers I solved everything except one important detail: NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). During boot it says (driver v. 3.37): Display0: ATI BIOS not found _IOProbeDriver: No such device so it switches back to standard VGA 640x480@2. According to NA #1735 the Mach64 makes use of the card's BIOS so that you have to run a setup utility in order to get higher resolutions. It is no problem to see all resolution when running this utility, but any configuration would be written to C:\ which was not available at boot time. Now, this is really urgent, since I have to do a demo with that config tomorrow. Has anybody got a clue or successfully installed ATI Mach64/PCI cards with the NeXT supplied driver? Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: James Felix Black <jfblack@paranet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faceplate for cube + floppy drive? Date: 14 May 1997 12:38:01 -0600 Organization: Paranet, Inc Sender: jfblack@gamera Message-ID: <x77mh1zypi.fsf@gamera.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> I remember a post here periodically advertising a custom faceplate for a cube with slots milled out for both the OD and a floppy. Having recently come into posession of a floppy drive, I'd love to install it inside and have the system back to it's former, self-contained state. Any help/pointers/"read the damn faq" appreciated. TIA, JFB -- James Felix Black jfblack@paranet.com Paranet, Inc Minneapolis, MN pager: (800) 500-5723 public key: finger or mail me with subject "send public key"
From: cjs@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Miles Standish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can I use next color monitor with PC? Date: 14 May 1997 20:17:26 GMT Organization: Oberlin College Message-ID: <5ld6kn$f4b@news.cc.oberlin.edu> Hi I would like to use a next color monitor with a PC. How can I do this? Do I need a special cable or a special graphics card? (and if the answer is "You can not" then where is a good place to purchase (inexpensive) used color monitors? 17" or 21") Thanks in advance!
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Wed, 14 May 1997 17:04:10 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <snSWX_u00iV1Q3qbkY@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> In-Reply-To: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 13-May-97 NeXT box won't stay off. by Martin Lightheart@lei.co > My NeXT turbo color slab just recently decided not to stay off after I > pressed the stop button. It turns off the systerm, but the systerm > starts up a split second later. Anyone have that happen to them? First, check the Startup preferences as root and see whether you've enabled the auto-restart. If that's not the problem, then the BIOS memory (ack, a PC term but I forget what NeXT called it) isn't working right. You can try to take out the yellow battery for a day to clear the memory to a blank state, and see whether that fixes it. Otherwise, the battery is probably going, and you should replace it. It's a 3 volt BR-2/3A lithium battery, but I believe there is now a different designation for that style. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faceplate for cube + floppy drive? Date: 15 May 1997 02:52:23 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5ldtp7$p15$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <x77mh1zypi.fsf@gamera.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> In article <x77mh1zypi.fsf@gamera.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me>, James Felix Black <jfblack@paranet.com> wrote: >I remember a post here periodically advertising a custom faceplate for >a cube with slots milled out for both the OD and a floppy. I don't know where he's at. Maybe he's just not interested in doing these anymore. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac <--> NeXT connectivity Date: 14 May 1997 07:19:12 -0400 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5lc73g$fj@papoose.quick.com> References: <33777AE5.1A6BD4C0@conextions.com> <5l836s$1se$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com> In article <3378656A.E2940A34@conextions.com>, Serguei Bakhteiarov <serge@conextions.com> wrote: >Now, I do have Asante ethernet RJ45 adapter and twisted pair cable with >RJ45 connectors. In my NeXT I also do have RJ45 nest. Can I just >directly connect my Mac and NeXT using the cable? > >What does it mean "null modem" cable keeping in mind ethernet TP cable? > >I used "null modem" cables for serial ports, but never heard about ones >for the ethernet.... Think of twisted pair ethernet as a kind serial interface. The standard wiring allows you to connect a host to a hub. A variant usually called a 'crossover cable' can connect a hub to another hub, or a host to another host. If you have only two ethernet devices to connect, you can use a crossover cable (so called becase it exchanges TX and RX wires at one end). I find crossover cables useful in a number of situations. For example, if you have hosts with multiple interfaces and temporarily have need for very high volumes of traffic between two hosts, you can use a crossover cable to isolate that traffic from the rest of your networks. Since those two hosts are the only ones connected to that media segment, collisions are dramatically reduced. Remember that the cost of a low end 6-8 port TP hub is only about $100. Think about growth over the course of a year or two before deciding not to buy a hub. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: brisinda@fsf.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97May15002743@fsf.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 15 May 1997 06:27:43 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep Support for Laptops Distribution: world Hello, Can anyone provide me with information (or pointer to) about what PC laptop configurations are supported for OpenStep 4.1? Has anyone tried any that aren't "formally" supported but work fine as far as they know? I'd like a dual boot WindowsNT 4.0 and OpenStep 4.1 configuration. Please respond by email. Thanks. Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or brisinda@acm.org http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca or brisinda@acm.org http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: 15 May 1997 07:26:07 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5ledqf$s51$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <WEGMANN.97May14202315@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). Well, I'm not sure, but the "264" might be the problem. You don't have a classical ATI mach64 card, but a card with the newer "mach 264" chip, which has additional video and multimedia features. NeXT doesn't mention this chip explicitly in the compatibility list, so the Mach 64 driver might not work with it. Usually, the mach 64 driver works without problems with any of the retail, on-board or OEM versions of Mach 64-based adapters. The "BIOS-aware" versions 3.36 and 3.37 are known to have the problem of not supporting the 1152 x 896 mode in all cases. You should check the NeXT archives to see whether an old (pre-3.36) driver which didn't use the ATI BIOS is still available, and give it an additional try. > [...] so that you have to run a setup > utility in order to get higher resolutions. It is no problem to see all > resolution when running this utility, but any configuration would be > written to C:\ which was not available at boot time. No. The DOS installation utility writes the configuration directly to the card, which has an EEPROM area to save this information. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: rainer@wmax71.mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhöfer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS 4.x on Tyan Tomcat III/Dual?? Date: 15 May 1997 14:31:00 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5lf6n4$f6o@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> I'm planning to buy a Tyan Tomcat III/Dual P5/133 board to replace my old and more and more unstable VLB board. I will run Solaris x86 and OS 4.x on it. While OPENSTEP won't make any use of the second CPU, would it work at all? Any experiences? Thanks in advance, Rainer. -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger rainer@cip.mathematik for public key ...)
From: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mach64 driver parameter for 128MB main memory Date: 15 May 1997 15:35:19 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <5lfafn$r4c@news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by MimeKit/1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Hi. I have ATI Mach64 (4MB VRAM) running on NEXTSTEP 3.3J. It is working fine with 64MB main memory. However, when I increased the main memory to 128MB, the NEXTSTEP screen becomes black after all the boot procedure finished. I guess the reason of this problem is the wrong "port address" or "mapped memory" which are the configurable parameters in the Configure.app. With 64MB, the working parameters are the following. Port Address 8bytes at 0x2E8 Mapped Memory 4096K at 0xFC000000 I forgot how these are selected when I installed the OS. Please let me know the correct values of these parameters, with 128MB main memory or the way to calculate these parameters. In case my guess is wrong and there are some other (possible) reasons of this problem, please let me know. Thanks in advance. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 68k NeXT CPU Speed Controls Date: 15 May 1997 16:33:15 GMT Organization: Phoenix DataNET! http://www.phoenix.net/pdn/ Message-ID: <5lfdsb$6t9$1@uhura1.phoenix.net> Fellow Netters - I am looking into accelerating the 68k NeXT logic boards, and if anyone out there knows how the CPU/oscillator combination works - I would like to ask some questions. I see one oscillator on a slab logic board and two oscillators on a different board. How is the main clock signal divided for the other components such as hard drive, video, etc? This is purely a hobby, similar Mac boards are easy to accelerate so perhaps we can move some of those techniques over and use them on the NeXT. As I find out information I'll post it here. TIA -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> And the (beginnings of) the 68k NeXT Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/next> "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Message-ID: <EA8Iyz.1DA@hurka.UUCP> Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <WEGMANN.97May14202315@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 18:20:59 GMT Hi Frank, In article <WEGMANN.97May14202315@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) writes: > > I installed NS 3.3 on an Artist PC Pentium 120MHz PCI (PnP) and after > collecting the latest 3.3 drivers from NeXTanswers I solved everything > except one important detail: > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). > During boot it says (driver v. 3.37): > > Display0: ATI BIOS not found > _IOProbeDriver: No such device [...] The new ATI cards are supported by ATIRage driver available from NeXTanswrers as #2524. Best regards, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ultra SCSI and NeXT Turbo Date: 15 May 1997 20:36:21 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5lfs45$c51$3@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5l280f$caa$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Cc: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam In <5l9hs1$22d$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: > John Badanes (john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu) wrote: > > Is there any problem using an "Ultra SCSI" hard drive in a > > NeXT Turbo computer. It's 50-pin, and all that, but hey. > > > I'm thinking about a 2110MB Quantum [TM32110S] - Ultra SCSI > > interface - 10.5ms, 4500rpm, 128K buffer, etc. Are there any > > problems that I can expect, or will this be (crossing his > > fingers), a "plug-and-play" sort of thing. > > Works fine in my Turbo station. I had no problems whatsoever. > Good choice for a disk IMHO. :-) > BTW: I would guess that the person is aware of this but they'll need more than just the drive. They'll need a SCA-80 to 50pin adapter. It just works. And when we get our PPC boxes (sorry don't want NT on Intel folks) with Ultra we can just drop them on and get the increased throuroput. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: laptops w/ OpenStep 4.x - webpage anywhe From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 15 May 97 23:25:09 GMT Message-ID: <17497134.84309.10568@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand Hi; I'm looking for a web page about using laptops with NeXTSTEP -- is there one and if so, can somebodfy please point me in the right direction? Thanks! Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware & rhaphsody From: apl@kcbbs.gen.nz (Andrew Lindesay) Date: 15 May 97 23:28:24 GMT Message-ID: <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running Rhaphsody? It seems reasonable that they could do a compile, and cut a CD for the black hardware users without terribly much effort and those of us who still can't find anything to compete with our old boxes can just chug on. -= if anybody from Apple's listening -=>PLEASE!!!!!<=- =- Andrew (apl@kcbbs.gen.nz)
From: dvit@ip.pt (Diogo Vitorino) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Just Got a NeXT "Cube" Date: 16 May 1997 00:24:05 GMT Organization: ILHA Distribution: inet Message-ID: <dvit-1605970127080001@pm-lx-1-03.net.ip.pt> References: <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com> In article <psybeast-ya02408000R1205970118290001@news.pond.com>, psybeast@pond.com (PsyBeast) wrote: > As of Friday, I now have a NeXT "Cube" running around my apartment, > ethernet that is. > > The only major problem at this stage of the game, is that I need a Clean > New OS install. > > The cube came with what appears to be all the basic manuals, and a blank > 256MB MO cartridge... and NOTHING else!!!! >..... I actually have more or less the same problem with a Turbo Color station. Please help!
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS 4.1 on Pentium II, anyone? Date: 16 May 1997 01:28:25 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Message-ID: <5lgd7p$r9j$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: <5l9t53$1nqo@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> In article <337940c8.6927108@news.mindspring.com> Creature@Hell.com (Mr. Kawasaki) writes: >>Has anyone tried OS 4.1 on a Pentium II, yet? How does it compare to > >Don't buy one!! >Nick Why not? -Karl
From: bigprofit@rocketmail.com (Brian Sassounian) Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level,alt.make.money.fast,alt.business.multi-level.exceltel,alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs Subject: Check it out - SEX, MUSIC, FREE STUFF, ETC Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 19:20:46 -0700 Organization: cuz he kicks ass Message-ID: <MPG.de564578bfef1c9989688@news.sure.net> References: <3374724D.5D03@bridge.net> <33748D74.F57FD7DF@onramp.net> What's up? Hey, I got a new webpage, it has some cool stuff, like: * Music - Wavs, Midis, Guitar, Links * Sex - Picts, Gifs, Jpgs, Movies, Links * Hacking/Phreaking/Virus/Anarchy * Free Stuff (really, free products) Check it out, you won't be disappointed. http://members.tripod.com/~brian67
From: "Burnt A. Christian" <burnt@latexnet.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Broken NeXT Laser Printer? Date: 16 May 1997 05:14:06 GMT Organization: The Latex Hut 2.0 Message-ID: <5lgqeu$ecl$1@zinger.callamer.com> Originator: burnt@ I've had this NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer sitting in the closet. I finally got around to getting a toner cart for it and plugged it into the NeXTstation. Lo and behold, nothing happened. No power-up, NS 3.2 says there is no printer attached to printer port. NeXTstation Turbo Color says the same thing. Using standard black NeXT cable. What wrong? -- @}---;-------- Practice principled acts of self-interest -Burnt and ruthless logic
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: URGENT: [NS 3.3/Intel] can't use ATImach64 PCI driver Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 09:36:27 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <337C0E7B.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <WEGMANN.97May14202315@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <5ledqf$s51$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcel Bresink wrote: > > wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: > > NS can't exploit my ATI mach64 (to be precise, PC ATI-264VT, 2MB DRAM). > > ... The "BIOS-aware" versions > 3.36 and 3.37 are known to have the problem of not supporting the 1152 x 896 > mode in all cases. You should check the NeXT archives to see whether an old > (pre-3.36) driver which didn't use the ATI BIOS is still available, and give > it an additional try. I'm not sure if this is still an a archive. I have a OpenStep 4.0 machine running with Version 3.31. I thing it is the last one not dealing with the card's bios/eeprom. Give this a try: http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried/ATIMach64DisplayDriver.33.pkg.tar.gz stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT box won't stay off. Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 07:47:35 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970515074636.28933B-100000@kira> References: <33792B04.49A@lei.com> <snSWX_u00iV1Q3qbkY@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <snSWX_u00iV1Q3qbkY@andrew.cmu.edu> > Otherwise, the battery is probably going, and you should replace it. > It's a 3 volt BR-2/3A lithium battery, but I believe there is now a > different designation for that style. The new battery designation is CR123. I got one at a camera shop a few months ago for < $10 TjL
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From: reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 11:58:45 +0300 Organization: NetVision LTD. Message-ID: <m3n2pvbxoa.fsf@netvision.net.il> I have a NeXTstation color (non-turbo) that I haven't really used very much over the last few years, for a variety of reasons. But given all of the excitement surrounding NeXT, Apple, and the like, I have started to fire it up again, and I'm having a lot of fun with it. In any event, I now have my NeXT machine connected via thin Ethernet to a PC running Linux. Since the Linux box has a CD-ROM drive (while the NeXT does not), figured that I could upgrade from NS 3.2 to 3.3 by mounting the NeXTSTEP CD on my Linux box, exporting it using NFS to the NeXT machine, and upgrading to NS 3.3 in that way. Unfortunately, Linux doesn't seem to like the format of the NS 3.3 CD-ROM. When I try to mount it, Linux complains that it cannot find the CD's superblock. I have tried using mount with a number of different options, but nothing seems to work. I have tried to look at the CD using Windows '95, but that (predictably) couldn't handle the CD's format either. Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to install NS 3.3? Or is there some way that I can convince Linux to view the CD, thus upgrading my beloved NeXT machine to a newer OS version? Thanks for any ideas people can offer! Reuven
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From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 400 dpi printer toner Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 15:05:11 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi folks, Anyone know what kind of toner to use with NeXT 400 dpi printer? Thanks!! :-)Maurice
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT 400 dpi printer toner Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 06:32:45 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970516063105.957B-100000@kira> References: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> In-Reply-To: <337CDA17.455B@antrg.azn.nl> Yes and you would too if you checked out the FAQ or read this group's archives... toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 15:00:35 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <m3n2pvbxoa.fsf@netvision.net.il> reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) wrote: > Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to > install NS 3.3? Maybe yes. A NEXTSTEP installation CD doesn't conform to the usual ISO 9660 standard, but is "formatted" like a hard disk with a BSD 4.3 file system. I don't know if there is any implementation outside NeXT which would read such a CD. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: 16 May 1997 18:28:34 +0200 Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <we6ohabmle5.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> References: <m3n2pvbxoa.fsf@netvision.net.il> <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> apart from endianess and the offset for the disk label, it's a standard 4.3 (ufs in Linux) filesystem. one should ask for a modified ufs in the linux newsgroups. the problem is the same for next hd's and I'm quite sure, someone added these bits already. ciao, stephan -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: Michel Belisle <mbelisle@cae.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware Subject: Re: The Beefiest mac hardware Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 13:14:54 -0400 Organization: CAE Electronique Ltee Message-ID: <337C960E.3B75@cae.ca> References: <5kp4cd$j3o$1@news2.digex.net> <5kv2vr$ase@papoose.quick.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I suggest you take a look at Power Computing or DayStar. Power Computing has the fastest clones; they are usually ahead of Apple in terms of processor speed. They load their machines with big L2 caches and the best part is that you can configure them the way you want. Check out their online store: http://store.powercc.com. DayStar is selling multiprocessor mammoths! ;-) They sell 2-4 processor machines that kick anyone's ass for running Photoshop. If you feel like spending $10K on a box there the ones to check. Their URL: http://www.daystar.com. Enjoy. -- *********************************************************** Michel Bélisle Voice: (514) 341-2000 x3694 CAE Electronique Ltée E-Mail: mbelisle@cae.ca St-Laurent, Qc, Canada WWW: http://www.cae.ca ***********************************************************
From: ilk@mindspring.com (Chris Mullins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT CUBE FOR SALE Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:27:14 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <337cb4e9.20185685@news.mindspring.com> NEXT CUBE FOR SALE I have a NeXt cube with one system board for sale. It comes with: 2 17” Megapixel Monitors 1 N2000 Laser Printer Mouse and Keyboard. Cost is $499 Plus Shipping. I am not familiar with NeXt and can not tell you much about it, It has the NeXt mach OS and seems to have software still on it. I have the monitor cable (special ordered) but do not have a cable for the printer. All items are in excellent condition. It was being used at GaTech before I bought it. If you have any questions please call me at 770.420.5202 -Chris Mullins I also have 19” Fixed Scan Monitors for sale. Made by Hitachi: they come with a 128 Bit PCI Accelerator with 2.26 MB of ram. I am selling these at $549 plus shipping.
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From: tom@kofa.as.arizona.edu (Tom Trebisky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with Next N4001 monitor Date: 16 May 1997 18:18:48 -0700 Organization: Steward Observatory, Tucson, Arizona Message-ID: <5lj11o$bls@kofa.as.arizona.edu> Hello to you Next hardware experts! My local used computer shop has 3 nice looking Next monitors for sale (I don't have a Next cube, but...). I would like to know what resolution and sync rates might be on these (they look like nice monitors, and I am considering buying them if they could be used for example with a sun workstation or on a PC with the appropriate video shenanigans. Here is the info: Next model N4001 mega-pixel 17 inch monitor, number C1761NU, manufactured 1991-1992. Has a 13W3 connector on the back and a flat black case (surprise!). Will these do 1152x900 pixels at 61.8 Khz Hsync, 66Hz Vsync? Does Next do separate H and V sync or composite, or what? Many thanks in advance for any information. -- Tom Trebisky Steward Observatory ttrebisky@as.arizona.edu University of Arizona http://kofa.as.arizona.edu/ Tucson, Arizona 85721 (520) 621-5135
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Date: 17 May 1997 00:31:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear about other people's experiences for comparison. First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may have used it a third time before the above occurred. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena,CA Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) **********************************************************
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Date: 17 May 1997 01:55:34 GMT Control: cancel <5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5107cd$121c4.1fc@news.psrinc.com> Sender: Information Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT machines Date: 16 May 1997 23:49:02 GMT Message-ID: <19970517034900.XAA24958@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Can anyone send me pictures of the different NeXT machines or point me in a direction (to a web page) which has pictures. I want to get a NeXT machine I used while at University of Maryland but I dont know which one it is until I look at it. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Mark
From: nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FAQ for this newsgroup Date: 16 May 1997 23:49:46 GMT Message-ID: <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Can someone send me the FAQ for this newsgroup, I cannot find it anywhere. Thanks for any help Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch (Wolfgang Lerche) Subject: Adaptec2940U noboot Message-ID: <EABFtp.FxJ@news.cern.ch> Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 08:05:48 GMT Hello, I am to install NS3.3 on an Intel VS440FX PPro MB with an Adaptec2940U controller. There is a SCSI drive and a SCSI SONY-CDROM CDU-415 (SCSI ID 1). After following the instrutions, booting from the floppy, I get the well-known problem: "Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING no SCSI drive or CD ROM found." I did use the latest (v3.37) driver, though - it loads from the floppy without problem. Actually I was successfully installing in the past an Adaptec2940U/W (not U) on another machine, which initially had the same problem -- but that went away exactly by using the (v3.37) driver. (The only other difference was an ATAPI CD-ROM). I checked that the Adapter works fine under windoze. Can somebody tell what to do here ? Thanks ! W. Lerche CERN lerche@nxth04.cern.ch
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with Next N4001 monitor Date: 17 May 1997 10:49:35 GMT Message-ID: <19970517144900.KAA27557@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5lj11o$bls@kofa.as.arizona.edu> i have a 13w3 to vga convetor cable if that would help you reutilize you monitors on pc. $65 and credit card 13w3 male to vga (male or female) UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: Tom ONeil <oneilts@ix.netcom.com.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq/SCSI Resets!! Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 11:44:45 -0500 Organization: Microsoftically Impaired Message-ID: <337DE07D.505D@ix.netcom.com.NOSPAM> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To ALL; I have tried to load 3.3 on a 5210E, 4000, and Compaq tower of some kind and they all do the same thing - "resetting scsi bus AHA timeout" The controller, Adaptec 1540C, the CD(s) - NEC 6x & 8x & a Sony - all work great loading HP vectra's and IBM boxes. I'm using the driver from the CD for the Adaptec, and tried w/ both an IDE drive and driver and all SCSI. Is this a Compaq thing? Is there a special driver I need? We have over 1,000 Compaqs and the PC techs are somewhat loathe to support another platform, so I'd like to get it to run on one and lose the the other ones. Will sell 'em cheap if I can get it to work. P.S. - Great O/S - the NT gang is all knotted up. E Pluribus Unix -- Thomas J. ONeil oneilts@ix.netcom.com Dallas, Tx. USA UFO's are real - the Air Force doesn't exist. My apologies for the NOSPAM on the return address, but I pay for the disk space, not them.
From: info@scribex.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Date: 17 May 1997 16:45:47 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5lknbr$m9s$1@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> References: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5liu8b$34a@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> On 05/16/97, Vicki Bragin wrote: > We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear > about other people's experiences for comparison. > > First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it > won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive > > Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may > have used it a third time before the above occurred. > > Vicki Bragin > -- > ********************************************************** > Victoria M. Bragin E-mail: vbragin@ix.netcom.com > Pasadena City College, 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena,CA > Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 > (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) > ********************************************************** We have been running 2 Jaz drives on 2 different Intel machines running on NS 3.3 for 7 months now and we have NEVER encountered any problems whatsoever. Both drives work perfectly. They also worked on our old Cubes. -André SCRIBEX COMMUNICATIONS - Localization & Distribution Montreal, Qc E-Mail: info@scribex.com (NeXTMail - MIME - ASCII ) URL: www.scribex.com ==============================================
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for NeXT 3.3/4.x Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 17:00:38 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <knTVlq600iV1014mBO@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <3371EF0A.131A@socko.cdnow.com> <5ksvkr$59rk@news.doit.wisc.edu> <wnQVoWe00iV1M3Z4pv@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ku6lh$55dm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <gnQqtNi00iV1A3k7ch@andrew.cmu.edu> <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5l0jbf$48a8@news.doit.wisc.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-May-97 Re: "black" 040 vs 486 for .. by bestor@cs.wisc.edu >> That's right, but the doubled internal clock has to apply to the >> instruction cycle time-- the rate at which opcodes get executed. >> Although a 33 MHz 68040 uses a 66 MHz clock internally (for pipeline >> stage timing, presumably), it only executes opcodes at 33 MHz, and not >> at 66 MHz. > > If the pipeline is clocked at 66MHz then isn't the execution rate > the same, assuming the ideal that instruction can be fed into the > pipeline one per cycle? The pipeline in a 33 MHz 68040 accepts instructions at a rate of 33 MHz. > My impression from the 68040 User Manual was the "processor clock" was > 66MHz and the "bus clock" was 33MHz, at least that is what it said. Right. They probably use the doubled processor clock internally within the pipeline stages (for example, it makes forwarding to avoid stalling considerably easier). >>> Oh, another minor correction: >>> ...a 486DX2/66 _does_ execute 66 million NOP opcodes per second. >> >>Modulo the L1 and L2 caches-- you've got to have a loop which fits in >>the L1 cache... > > Sigh - another good joke gone to waste... Oh, well. You can't get them all.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk (Tim Danaher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! ColorStation Turbo won't start up Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:07:38 +0100 Organization: TelaArch Message-ID: <tim-1805970007380001@tdanaher.demon.co.uk> My colorstation turbo hung whilst copying a file in Workspace, wouldn,t let me log out. Pressed power key and got to the NMI monitor. Typed 'reboot'. Drive makes a few (very few) read/write noises at start, but now the System doesn't get past "loading from disk..'. The animated icon just keeps spinning. System was purchased 4 weeks ago from a reseller. The disk (Conner 540, i believe) is new. Any ideas, pointers, etc. would be gratefully received. Thanks in advance Tim Danaher tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use NS 3.3 installation disk to install OS 4.1 on mo Date: 17 May 1997 16:47:53 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5llg39$g93@slip.net> Hi, Can one use a NS 3.3 installation disk to install OS 4.1 on black? Thanks, Emmett
From: yongly@cyberway.com.sg (yong lai yong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CONSULT ME Date: 12 May 1997 07:25:49 GMT Organization: altron Message-ID: <5l6glt$nfh$39@ftpsvr.cyberway.com.sg> I have a team that specialise in: 1. Web page creation - internet and intranet 2. Setup, upgrade,service and repair of computers 3. Consultation and Training services of all application softwares. Therefore, if you are thinking of establishing a web presence in the World Wide Web,or if you want to upgrade your current pc and if you want to apply for training or consultation services, please contact me at once. I will answer all your computer problems. My home on the Net is: http://www.cyberway.com.sg/~yongly Hear from you soon! laiyong
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.1 for Intel - Drivers for new hardware Date: 17 May 1997 12:20:11 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5lk7pr$4c4$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: jrs@kouzlo.com In <3379393B.167E@kouzlo.com> Jim Stutt wrote: > I have the original CDs for NS and Developer for version 3.1 (the > original Intel version). I have a spare PC with: > > P166 CPU > 32MB RAM > ATI Mach 64 PCI 2MB VRAM > Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI > TOSHIBA 2X CD > Logitech 3 button mouse > > Is there any way to get drivers to be able to install the 3.1 > CDs on this PC? No. There's no PCI support in 3.1 at all. Upgrade to 3.3 or forget about it. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Date: 18 May 1997 03:57:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: windy@sea Subject: live wire Organization: dkf56 Message-ID: <cR$7e3rY8GA.214@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 05:28:48 -0700 x-no-archive:yes please click on http://www.webcom.com/h49tld20/index.html
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seek NeXT Station measurements Date: 17 May 1997 22:23:54 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> Hi, What are the measurments of a NeXT Station ? Someday I might want to purchase a Color machine and I'm wondering if the Pizza Box will fit in my black audio cabinet. Thanks, Emmett
From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Reading a NeXTSTEP CD from Linux Date: Sat, 17 May 1997 20:31:00 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Message-ID: <199705172031001227648@[192.168.0.2]> References: <m3n2pvbxoa.fsf@netvision.net.il> <5lhsqj$bht$2@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Marcel Bresink <bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> wrote: > reuven@netvision.net.il (Reuven M. Lerner) wrote: > > Is this plan hopeless? Will I have to find a SCSI CD-ROM drive to > > install NS 3.3? > > Maybe yes. A NEXTSTEP installation CD doesn't conform to the usual ISO 9660 > standard, but is "formatted" like a hard disk with a BSD 4.3 file system. I > don't know if there is any implementation outside NeXT which would read such > a CD. > > Marcel There is a filesystem for Linux called U2FS, which can at least read NeXT formatted Floppies, but it doesn't read NeXT CDs... Maybe the author plans to include CD-ROM support in the future. AFAIK, NeXT uses the same filesystem for floppies and CDs. Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 00:51:12 -0600 From: Rene Berber <rberber@spin.com.mx> Subject: Re: Jaz drive problems with NEXTSTEP Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863934238.13942@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service Vicki Bragin wrote: > We have been having problems with JAZ drives and would like to hear > about other people's experiences for comparison. > > First JAZ drive: Used successfully once; second time around, it > won't even power up; was returned and given a new drive > > Second JAZ drive: basically the same experience as above. We may > have used it a third time before the above occurred. After one month of using a jaz drive I've had no problems. Installation was a little weird: I had to put my zip drive before the jaz on the scsi chain to avoid boot problems. The computer just freezes otherwise. The manual for the zip drive says something about putting slower drives first. Other than that, no problem. I installed NeXTStep on a jaz disk and booted from it just to test if it can be used in case of trouble. Another disk is used for storing about 400 MB of data. Your problem description definitely seems to point to a hardware problem, it could be as easy as the power supply. Regards, --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <cR$7e3rY8GA.214@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Date: 18 May 1997 05:21:16 GMT Control: cancel <cR$7e3rY8GA.214@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Message-ID: <cancel.cR$7e3rY8GA.214@moosecat.mooselogic.com> Sender: windy@sea Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: "Charles Ismora" <c_ismora@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HEEELP] Next Printer not recognized Date: 18 May 1997 03:07:49 -0400 Organization: Mail to Usenet Gateway Message-ID: <199705162218.PAA01507@f40.hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain To: comp.sys.next.hardware@myriad.alias.net Hello, I just get an used NeXT Printer. The problem is that my slab (68040 non turbo, NS3.1) doesn't recognize it ! The symptoms are : - the slabs starts the printer at boot time - nppower on/off works but - although the user manuals tell that a new printer will be automatically added, no new printer appears - in the PrintManager printer creation dialog box, the NeXT 400dpi printer type is greyed, so that I can't even create one ! The only things in user manuals being that it must work automatically, this leaves very little room to test things and see where the problem resides ... So any suggestion is welcomed ; can it come from a hardware problem (dead part in the printer so that the slab see that it is not usable ?), or from the OS configuration ? Thanks for help, Ismora. PS: thank you for answering by mailto:c_ismora@hotmail.com as I cannot read the news. --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------
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Zhengmao 1010 Harlan CT San Jose, CA 95129 5. Z.W.Y 10118 highridge Rd. laurel MD 20723 Step 2 Now remove the top name from the list that you see above and move the other names up ( #5 becoming #4, #4 becoming #3, and so on) and put your name and address as the fifth on the list. Step 3 Post/send the amended article (with your name at #5 in the list) to at least 200 newsgroups. This is the REALLY IMPORTANT part, so don't try to shortcut it. I'll explain more about this under the WHY it works part. (you can also send by irc or e-mail). Post/send as many newsgroups as possible. REMEMBER THIS!!!!! THE MORE GROUPS YOU SEND/POST to, the more people will see your article and send you cash. That's the real power of this business. You are now in business for yourself, and you should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days!!! HOW TO POST THIS ARTICLE: If you have Netscape 3.0 do EXACTLY the following: 1. Click on any newsgroups like normal, then click on 'TO NEWS' which is on the far left when you're in the newsgroups page. This will bring up a box to type a message in. 2. Leave the newsgroup box like it is, just CHANGE the subject to something flashy, such as "NEED CASH $$$ READ HERE $$$" OR "FAST CASH!!" 3. Tab once and you should be ready to post. Cut and paste this article exactly as it appears,except to insert your name at #5, and to remove #1 off the list, plus any other small changes that you might think you need to make. Keep most of it the same though. You don't want to change it too much--it's proven to work just as it is written! 4. When you're done typing the WHOLE article, click on FILE IN THIS BOX, RIGHT ABOVE SEND, NOW WHERE IT SAYS NETSCAPE NEWS ON THE FIRST BOX. Click and SAVE AS when you're under FILE. Save your article as a text file to your C: or A; drive. DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTIL YOU DO THIS. Once saved move on to number 5 below. 5. If you still have all of your text, send or post to this newsgroup now by clicking send, which is right below FILE, and right above Cc: 6. Here's where you're going to post all 200. OK, click on any newsgroup then click on "TO NEWS", again in the top left corner. Leave the NEWSGROUPS BOX alone again, put a flashy subject title in the SUBJECT BOX, hit TAB once you're in the body of the message, and then click on ATTACHEMENTS. You will get another box to come up. Click on ATTACHED FILE, and then find your file that you have saved earlier; click once on the file, and then click OPEN. NOW CLICK ON OK; if you did this right, you should be able to see your name in the attachements box and it will be shaded green. 7. That's it. Each time you do this, all you have to do is type in a different newsgroup, so that way, it posts to 200 DIFFERENT newsgroups, you see? Now you only have 199 more to go!!! (don't worry, each one takes about 30 seconds once you get used to it). REMEMBER 200 IS THE MINIMUM. You are now in the mail order business and will start receiving your #1 envelopes from various people all over the world within days. HINT: THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST TO, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL MAKE! Incredibly simple, isn't it? LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SYSTEM WORKS!!!!! Out of every 200 postings, let's say I only receive 5 replies, which is VERY LOW. So I made $5 with my name at #5. I've already made my money back! Now then, each person who just sent me $1 makes 200 postings, now with your name at #4, WHICH IS A TOTAL OF 1000 postings, not including your own. Say 50 people send you $1 now, which again, is a very low response rate; that's $50 you made! Now then, your 50 new agents post 200 listings each with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER #3, or 10,000 postings (25 x 200). That's just how the system works at its worst case. However, the average return is 500 responses at $1 each. That's $500 in your pocket!! Each of your new agents makes 200 postings, which is 5,000 returns at $1 each, which is $5,000 dollars!! And finally, 5,000 people make 200 postings with YOUR NAME AT NUMBER 1, YOU NOW GET A RETURN OF $50,000 BEFORE YOUR NAME DROPS OFF THE LIST, AND THAT'S IF EVERYONE MAKES 200 POSTINGS ONLY, AND WITH ONLY A 5 PERSON RESPOND!!!!! When your name is no longer in the list, you just take the latest posting that is appearing in the newsgroups, and SEND OUT ANOTHER $1 TO 5 people in the list, putting your name at #5 again. And start posting again. The thing to realize is that thousands of people all over the world are joining the internet and reading these articles everyday, just like you are right now!!! So, can you afford $5 dollars and see if it really works? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users everyday. REMEMBER: WORK THIS FAIRLY AND HONESTLY AND IT WILL WORK! THE BASIC IDEA IS FOR EVERYONE TO MAKE MONEY. GOOD LUCK TO ALL WHO PARTICIPATE, AND PLEASE, PLAY FAIRLY AND YOU WILL BE REWARDED! DON'T put this off!! It's SOOOO EASY and SIMPLE, so do it RIGHT NOW You won't be sorry! *You may also want to get some bulk e-mail software to help the process along even faster. P.S. If you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending the $5 to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months.) Then he sent the 5 bills and was added to their lists. In 4 - 5 weeks, he had in excess of $10,000!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.337FB978.7B24@hotmail.com> Control: cancel <337FB978.7B24@hotmail.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <337FB978.7B24@hotmail.com> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 23:32:23 GMT Sender: franklin <yzm@hotmail.com> ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark.
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From: colin@anderson.vt.com (Colin Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT manuals/books? Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 15:17:47 -0600 Organization: Valley Tech Corporation Customer Message-ID: <colin-1805971517480001@anderson.vt.com> Hi, I'm yet another Mac user that bought a secondhand (manual-less) NeXTstation (Mono, non-turbo). While I have been able to install a few shareware apps onto this machine, I would like to learn how to do more with it. What books are/were available for the NeXTstation? What kinds of manuals came with the NeXTstation and where could I order them? Thanks, Colin Anderson colin@anderson.vt.com
From: tsnSSSmith@csd.net Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.memory Subject: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE@@@@@@@@ Date: Sun, 18 May 97 20:08:22 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group [www.iagnet.net] Abuse:abuse@iagnet.net Message-ID: <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! Its finally here http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!!
Date: Sun, 18 May 1997 16:51:14 -0600 From: Rene Berber <rberber@spin.com.mx> Subject: Re: Gatekeeper/PPP help needed Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <863991466.11980@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service cmoore wrote: ... > if so how do i get the mouse to work with the new serial drivers. > the config program wont even exit properly unless the 3.0 driver is > loaded. > You have to install the new driver for each port in Configure. You end up with two lines in the "Other services" screen, one says "Serial Port #1 (v3.33)" and the other says "Serial Port #2 (v3.33)". Configure takes care of the IRQs and port addresses automagically. Don't forget to install the "TTY Port Server", also version 3.33. --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wirehead@netcom.com (David J Harr) Subject: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Message-ID: <wireheadEAELtH.MGG@netcom.com> Summary: need drivers for network card Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 01:08:05 GMT Sender: wirehead@netcom.netcom.com I have been spending way too much time trying to get my Intel machine up and running w/ OS 4.2, instead of programming it to prove it is a superior development environment to my boss. I have gotten through all the gotchas, but one, and this one is a doozy. We have bought a whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet cards in our PCs, The nice thing about these cards is that they are switchable 10-BaseT/100-BaseT. However, try as I might, I seem to be unable to get the system to recognize the card. As a stopgap, I have gone back to one of our old EtherLink III ISA cards, which the system recognizes just fine. However, this is a less than optimal solution, as this machine will be acting as a server for our development efforts if I can prove the worth of the development environment, and having a server on a 10-BaseT connection while all the clients are on 100-BaseT connection is a rather paradoxical if not downright perverse state of affairs... If anyone knows of any compatible drivers for this card, I would be very grateful if you would contact me, or leave word in this newsgroup if you feel the answer is of general interest. Thanks, David David J Harr soldier of misfortune wirehead@netcom.com "We crash your computer, so you don't have to!"
From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: removable media eject panel problem Date: 18 May 1997 22:33:15 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5lo03b$16v2@news.doit.wisc.edu> At work we have a P133 running NS3.3 unpatched. Friday we upgraded the SCSI controller from a 1540 to a 2940 and added a second hard drive. Today when I was backing the system up onto a Fujitsu DynaMO 230 MB drive the system locked up while I was merging a directory on a particular MO disk. After rebooting, the system displays the following odd behavior. The DynaMO seems to work OK now but after a disk is dragged to the recycler or the Workspace icon is control clicked, the disk ejects, but a workspace panel briefly shows up asking me to eject the disk (presumably manually). It seems as though the DynaMO may be about to die or the new 2940 is defective . Has anyone seen similar behavior before and know what is happening? I'd like to replace the DynaMO as soon as possible before total failure if it's on its way out. Perhaps it only needs some cleaning? In case you're wondering, I know of two different machines with the same configuration (2940 and DynaMO and NS3.3 unpatched) that don't have problems so it's not the general configuration that's at fault. Thanks. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison Ted.Allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: Adaptec2940U noboot Date: 18 May 1997 08:20:16 GMT Organization: Navigator Message-ID: <5lme40$lue$1@radjah.navigator.de> References: <EABFtp.FxJ@news.cern.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: lerche@nxth04.cern.ch In <EABFtp.FxJ@news.cern.ch> Wolfgang Lerche wrote: > Hello, > > I am to install NS3.3 on an Intel > VS440FX PPro MB with an Adaptec2940U controller. > There is a SCSI drive and a SCSI SONY-CDROM CDU-415 > (SCSI ID 1). > > After following the instrutions, booting > from the floppy, I get the well-known problem: > "Adaptec2940: cannot get configSpace: ABORTING > no SCSI drive or CD ROM found." > > I did use the latest (v3.37) driver, though - > it loads from the floppy without problem. The brand new 2940U models have a PCI ID strings which is not listed in driver release 3.37. However, you can add the device ID yourself in the driver's Default.table: "Auto Detect IDs" = "0x70789004 0x71789004 0x72789004 0x73789004 0x74789004 0x75 789004 0x76789004 0x77789004 0x78789004 0x79789004 0x7a789004 0x7b789004 0x7c789 004 0x7d789004 0x7e789004 0x50789004 0x51789004 0x80789004 0x81789004 0x61789004 "; Watch for the IDs printed at boot time - mine has 0x61789004. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel info@navigator.de IT Consulting & System Administration http://www.navigator.de/
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seek NeXT Station measurements Date: 19 May 1997 04:15:52 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5lok5o$m52@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5lm3pa$4se@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > > Hi, > > What are the measurments of a NeXT Station ? > > Someday I might want to purchase a Color machine > and I'm wondering if the Pizza Box will fit > in my black audio cabinet. > > Thanks, > > Emmett > > assuming you're installing it in a 19" rack, you should have ~1.5" on each side left over for cooling. but it will be difficult to access the floppy drive ;-). probably a bad idea...besides it looks cool out in the open. BTW it's about (h x d x w) 2.5" x 14.375" x 15.75" (not counting the monitor, sound box, keyboard and mouse(pad). You'll want to leave 6"-7" in the back for the monitor cable to loop -- well that's for 2-bit display, the sound box (12-bit display) cable is different... -- Rick Sanford Dental Records[R] dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.precipice.com/~dental/ We're moving! Soon we'll be at: www.dentalrecords.com
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SMP support in Openstep 4.x for Mach / Intel Date: 19 May 1997 06:45:34 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Does Openstep 4.x for Mach on Intel (especially the version 4.2 given out at WWDC) utilize multiple x86 processors (e.g., dual Pentium Pro or Pentium II systems) ? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us (Gregory G. Woodbury) Newsgroups: alt.aol-sucks,alt.bbs.internet,alt.business,alt.business.home.pc,alt.business.misc,alt.business.multi-level,alt.internet.access.wanted,alt.internet.services,alt.invest.penny-stocks,alt.misc,alt.online-service,alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.memory Subject: cmsg cancel <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Control: cancel <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 05:09:44 GMT Organization: My Own Usenet Node! Message-ID: <cancel.5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> <5lnnd7$rv6$1@iagnews.iagnet.net> was canceled for being SPAM in an inappropriate place. -- Gregory G. "Wolfe" Woodbury `-_-' Owner/Admin: wolves.durham.nc.us ggw at wolves.durham.nc.us U "The Line Eater is a Hug your wolf. (Thanks Peter!) Boojum Snark"
From: GehleSoftware@t-online.de (Carsten Gehle) Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: Re: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Date: 13 May 1997 22:18:15 GMT Organization: Gehle Software Message-ID: <5lapb7$vlg$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> References: <022c7aad$7b179a40$LocalHost@isa> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: CDD2600+Advansys+GEAR 4.0 Try CDDesigner.app for NextStep and OPENSTEP available at http://www.ip-service.com/gehle Greetings Carsten Gehle (GehleSoftware@t-online.de)
From: Harald.Kossow@t-online.de (Harald Kossow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DoveFaxmodem Driver Date: 13 May 1997 10:10:08 GMT Organization: Telekom Online Internet Gateway Message-ID: <5l9em0$nt1$1@news01.btx.dtag.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Is there anyone who get a new eMail Adress or something else from "Dove Computer Corporation"? I need a new driver for the DoveFaxmodem (9600/2400). I only have the Rev. 1.00 from 1991. My Problem is, to tell the modem to "ignore dialtone" (ATX3), cause it runs now on telecomunication equipment, where I must dial a 0 (zero) to get a dialtone. I have heard, its possible to patch a driver. But therefor the driver must be Rev. 1.01 and not Rev. 1.00. thanks for help Harald PS: It runs on a NeXT-Mono-Station with NeXT Step 3.2. ________________________________________ Harald Kossow Kossow, Computer & mehr Harald.Kossow@t-online.de
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SMP support in Openstep 4.x for Mach / Intel Date: 19 May 1997 08:26:45 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5lp2s5$5d5$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5losue$pve$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 05/18/97, Karl Pfleger wrote: >Does Openstep 4.x for Mach on Intel (especially the version 4.2 given out >at WWDC) utilize multiple x86 processors (e.g., dual Pentium Pro or >Pentium II systems) ? No 4.2pr2 does not support MP. You'll have to wait for Rhapsody to get MP support on Mach (definitely on PPC, presumably on Intel as well). >-Karl > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- >Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 04:48:46 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5lpi7q$ntb@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? CorelDraw 7.0! only costs US$45? Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 04:54:32 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5lpiil$u25@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 05:01:00 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5lpiuo$3d6@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: clintdw@netcom.com (Clinton Wong) Subject: MegaPixel and Sun? Message-ID: <clintdwEAFov8.3Aq@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 15:11:32 GMT Sender: clintdw@netcom12.netcom.com Has anyone been able to get a MegaPixel monitor to work with a Sun workstation? The connectors look the same... but I don't have any Sun hardware to try it out. Regards, Clinton
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: boot cube from floppy? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 12:36:25 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg66431.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg66431.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I have a cube with a newly installed floppy drive. I've ordered an offici= al NeXT ribbon cable for it but I've found one that seems to work to some= degree (powering off the cube causes the floppy to eject at least so the= re's some communication going on). The hard drive inside the cube is completely blank. I would like to boot = from the floppy so I can begin the install from the CD. = How do I tell the cube to boot from floppy? At present I'm getting a mess= age that there it is attempting to load from disc and then reports a SCSI= error. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: thompson@filoli.com (Peter Thompson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How do I write to an recording CD? Date: 19 May 1997 17:39:38 GMT Organization: Filoli Information Systems Message-ID: <5lq38q$sta$1@news.filoli.com> Hi Folks, I bought the HP SureStore CDR in the hopes of providing longterm storage of my sources. However, whenever I try to load a blank CD into the CD writer, it automatically spits it back out. I did a look in the librarian, but no luck so far. Any clues for rent? Thanks in advance, Peter Thompson.
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From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: IBM PC 365? Date: 19 May 97 16:07:15 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA62B36-9B3CD@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Just got back from WWDC and now I have to get a PC box to install my release 4.2 prerealease 2 NeXT development environment (along with WebObjects). I'm at a university so I don't have many options on hardware I can buy without having to do a justification report. I'm thinking of buying an IBM 365 P200 Pro. I don't care if I have SCSI, but I _do_ need to be able to install everything off the CD if I don't have SCSI. I understand I can do this if the CD-ROM is ATAPI compliant. Is this pretty much assured on any hardware you buy these days? Or should I be diligant and look into this? If I do have to buy SCSI, the IBM PC 365 can come with something called S.M.A.R.T. Fast/Wide SCSI with Ultra SCSI controller, but that's all the info they give. I don't see anything named S.M.A.R.T. on the hardware compatibility guide. It doesn't even look like the CD-ROM is SCSI when you have a SCSI controller. rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
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From: erikr@cs.Stanford.EDU (Erik Rauch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep Subject: Non-postscript printers with NextStep/Intel Date: 19 May 1997 20:57:11 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University. Message-ID: <5lqer7$m9s$1@Radon.Stanford.EDU> I'm buying an NextStep/Intel system and am considering what printer to buy for under $400. Has anyone used a cheap, non-postscript laser printer? If so, how does the print quality compare to postscript, and how is it done? How about an inkjet? I have heard that the original NeXT laser printer is not PostScript-compatible either - it relies on the Display postscript in software. So I'm figuring it must be possible to use a cheap laser printer to good effect, but this question is not present in any of the FAQ's. I'd appreciate anyone relating their experiences on this. -Erik
From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: replacement disk for NeXTStation Date: 19 May 1997 20:58:31 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <5lqetn$3ecu@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> Cc: webmaster@starpage.com In <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > I just got a hand-me-down NeXTStation and I can't get the hard > drive to spin up--I assume it's dead... so I'm looking for any > suggestions for a reasonably-priced replacement drive. > Is there a limitation on how big a drive I can put in? (2Gb?) > Does any SCSI drive work, or do I need something in particular? here's the SCSImodes output from my new addition. guzzibill:4# scsimodes /dev/rsd0a SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S 512 bytes per sector 159 sectors per track 4 tracks per cylinder 6810 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 2 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4124735 usable sectors on volume should be available for around US$299 (catalog price + shipping) mount messages look like this: May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S Rev as sd0 at sc0 target 0 lun 0 May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: Disk Label: Disk May 14 21:42:13 guzzibill mach: Disk Capacity 2014MB, Device Block 512 bytes I believe this is as large as you are allowed... & i know this works quietly & well on my TurboColour 040 station. -- Bill Scollard Calgary, Canada Scollard Holdings Ltd. "Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave"
From: joel.powers@cesoft.com (Joel Powers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 16:34:30 -0600 Organization: CE Software, Inc. Message-ID: <joel.powers-ya023380001905971634300001@news.weather.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm trying to install Prelude to Rhapsody on a machine with a Adaptec AHA-284X VESA scsi controler. The first list of options includes this adaptor as choice number 5. When I type 5 it installs the number 6 choice ( I believe Adaptec 29xs or something). Is there a work around? Thanks, joel
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From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Intel printing--experiences? Date: 20 May 1997 05:29:56 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5lrcsk$k23@sun.sirius.com> So I'm about to buy a printer for my Intel box, and so far I've discovered the Dots and JetDriver packagers for running non-PostScript printers. I understand the licensing and most of the technical issues, so now I'm wondering, How well do they work? I'm planning to buy an Epson StylusColor 800. If you're successfully using that with OpenStep on Intel, I'd love to hear from you! If you have other printer recommendations, I'd love to hear that too. Please reply BY EMAIL to both of these addresses: ngervae @ sirius.com nik @ pdi.com Thanks. (Note: spaces inserted in email addresses above in a vain attempt to foil spambots.) ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com
From: ngervae@sirius.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faxing on NextStep Intel with USR Sportster 36.6k Date: 20 May 1997 05:31:53 GMT Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> Does anybody have any news or experiences on how to fax from NextStep Intel? I have a USR Sportster 36.6k modem, and the only driver software I've come across is Jolly's Class 2 Fax, which doesn't work. Any help is appreciated. Please reply BY EMAIL. ---- Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco ngervae@sirius.com
From: "kent davis" <kdavis@apk.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4.1 on a GateWay 2000? Date: 20 May 1997 06:53:28 GMT Organization: home Message-ID: <01bc64ea$56940f80$a09536cf@apk.net.apk.net> I have been using NS 3.2 on slow 486's for a long time. So I bought a GateWay 2000 Pentium Pro 200, and loaded 3.2 on to it. Now I am trying to load 4.1 on to a IDE hard drive with a Adaptec2940 and cd player. I did not get any floppy disks with NS 4.1 so I am using 3.3 start up disk, And getting this ERROR: "Missing EISA Kernel bus Class". I try loading the driver but get a error. Please help, KD
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From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rhapsody printing Date: 20 May 1997 07:54:50 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5lrlca$niq$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <3380A48C.6F9AD19@iphysiol.unil.ch> <338125AE.329@claris.com> In-Reply-To: <338125AE.329@claris.com> On 05/19/97, Richard Cave wrote: >Sean Hill wrote: >> >> Did anyone at WWDC learn about what the plans are for Rhapsody >> printing? Since everything is DisplayPostscript I would expect that I >> will be able to print postscript on my HP inkjet? >> > >Here's how I understand the situation at this point: > Openstep/Mach can render the PS to a bitmap and dump the bitmap to a >"dumb" printer. Note that it will not do banding, but will render the >entire bitmap in memory before sending it to the dumb printer. An interesting tangent - at the Exec Hardware Q&A at WWDC I asked if Apple had any plans for making some "dumb" printers that would use Rhapsody to do the PostScript rasterization (like the NeXT laser printer used to do). By taking advantage of PostScript running on the host-CPU and memory such printers could cost less and perhaps perform better than similar quality printers with onboard PostScript. A woman from Apple's printer division answered that they were already looking into the idea and that there most likely would be such products. (They were a bit offended by my use of "dumb" as an adjective for such a printer and thought they would market it using a different term than that :-) - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP Drive problem Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:24:28 +0100 Organization: Stockholm University Distribution: world Message-ID: <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, we just got a zip drive for our office and I was curious if I could = connect it to my slab too. But when I looked at the connector cable that = came with the drive i saw, that it wouldn't fit into my NeXTs SCSI port. = Do I just need an adaptor. if so, where can I get one from (I am located = in Stockholm, Sweden) Thanks in advance Harald -- = Harald Ellmann = Frescativ=E4gen 24 104 05 Stockholm SWEDEN Tel: +46-(0)8/161126 Fax: +46-(0)8/158674 __________________
From: paulwang <paulwang@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: about memory system q Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 23:33:42 -0800 Organization: SEEDNET InterNetNews News System Message-ID: <3382A555.3803@mail.asiaonline.net.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi,everybody: I am a newbie. I just got a Turbo cube ND and a Cube Nd (68040)with Pyro upgrade board. I want to eapand the main memory system.I read the Peanut FAQ,but Istill some question. 1.I couldn't find any 100ns,80ns even 70ns memory moudle at Taiwan.Most of the memory moudles are 60ns or faster(40ns),and all of them are EDO ram.Does them work fit with my system? I tried to put 32mb (16*2) 70ns Simm in the turbo cube.But the Rom monitor (v.74) report :80ns.Why ?Is there something wrong?Is there any tip to use faster ram?(Both cube and turbo cube).Btw ,could Nd use faster memory(70,60ns) too? 2.I wish the Turbo cube could expand to 128mb ram,but my friend who works for Canon told me the Turbo cube maximum memory is 64mb,is that correct?If not,Can I put 32mb*4 into the tuebo cube sockets directly? Or need any tip? Thanks in advance. PAUL
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Thanks for all help, new q Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 13:01:57 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen Message-ID: <33820334.4362@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, First I want to thank everybody who answered to my request for SCSI disks, NS 3.3 and CDROM problems. I found someone in Holland who has a NeXTstation Color and could provide me with a SCSI disk, so that is solved. We both have NS 3.0 now and are getting NS 3.2 user/dev, so everything is cool.It was great to see that so many people were willing to help. Thanks again. New question: I want to make the SCSI drive I have now internal. When we put it into the Cube, the ROM monitor reported SCSI bus hung. Looks like a termination problem. Can it be solved by having an external SCSI device with terminating power? Other question: I don't have a frame for the internal disk. Does someone know how to build one? Then something weird happened to my Cube: we opened it of course, slid the motherboard out 1 time. I now have two SCSI devices externally (SCSI disk and CDROM). A few times in a row, after pressing the powerkey, the monitor switched on and so did the fan, but the system test window did not appear and the Cube did not start up. I have slid the motherboard out and back in again and now the Cube starts up fine. I did not have this problem before I opened it and installed the SCSI devices externally. Has someone encountered similar problems? If so: what was the cause? Thanks again! :-)Maurice
From: objectivesw@dial.oleane.com (Your Name) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 19:16:23 +0100 Organization: Guest of OLEANE - PIPEX International Message-ID: <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> References: <msg66431.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: > I have a cube with a newly installed floppy drive. I've ordered an > official NeXT ribbon cable for it but I've found one that seems to work to > some degree (powering off the cube causes the floppy to eject at least so > there's some communication going on). The hard drive inside the cube is > completely blank. I would like to boot from the floppy so I can begin the > install from the CD. > > How do I tell the cube to boot from floppy? At present I'm getting a > message that there it is attempting to load from disc and then reports a > SCSI error. OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) HA
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From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 15:52:39 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg66713.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <msg66431.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg66713.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>objectivesw@dial.oleane.com writes:</bold> >OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and >right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) = Finally found that information on one of the NextStep for Intel pages (a = very logical place to look, don't you think since my question had to do w= ith Black hardware). So I've managed to do the above, and I've managed to do 3 installations a= nd I'm conducting the fourth now. After the first installation when it said it had to reboot, I hit return = and it began to reboot. Unfortunately it rebooted single user from the CD= =2E So I reinstalled. After the second installation I hit return to reboot, but to prevent it b= ooting from the Cd, I removed the Cd first. Bad move--the reboot program = is on the CD and I got tons of errors. So I reinstalled. After the third installation I hit return to reboot and I got an animated= icon saying "Loading from disc." (interesting that I've not seen this on= white hardware). I was prepared for black hardware to be slower, but 3 h= ours and 10 minutes later it was still spinning its icon and saying "Loading from disc." so I'm in the mid= dle of the fouth install now. Anyone have any suggestions? -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Message-ID: <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <joel.powers-ya023380001905971634300001@news.weather.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:34:01 GMT Joel Powers writes > I'm trying to install Prelude to Rhapsody on a machine with a Adaptec > AHA-284X VESA scsi controler. The first list of options includes this > adaptor as choice number 5. When I type 5 it installs the number 6 choice > ( I believe Adaptec 29xs or something). Is there a work around? > When NEXTSTEP, er um... OpenStep, eh... I mean Prelude to Rhapsody presents the list of drivers to select from, several of the drivers listed may be different personalities of the same driver. The only differences being slightly different configuration settings. This is likely the case here since I think the main difference between the Adaptec 28XX series and the 29XX series is the bus (28XX - VL, 29XX - PCI). The actual driver name is the Adaptec 29XX (or similar), so this shouldn't be a problem. If you are having a problem installing NEX... the operating system, post the error you are getting and your system configuration (machine type, all peripheral cards, etc...). - Eric (Yikes... what do we call this thing anyway ;-) -- _______________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \___________________________|___________________________________/
From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Mon, 19 May 1997 11:43:54 +0200 Organization: Institut f. Theoretische Physik, TU Berlin Message-ID: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave the computer running to enable remote logins? -- Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/
From: theisen@akaMail.com (Dirk Theisen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Rhapsody printing Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 01:31:25 +0200 Organization: University of Bonn, Germany Message-ID: <199705210131252333208@rhrz-isdn2-p14.rhrz.uni-bonn.de> References: <3380A48C.6F9AD19@iphysiol.unil.ch> <338125AE.329@claris.com> <5lrlca$niq$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Christopher Wolf <cwolf@wolfware.com> wrote: > (They were a bit offended by my use of "dumb" as an adjective for such a > printer and thought they would market it using a different term than that > :-) What about calling it "HPGL"? Dirk :*) -- Student of computer science, University of Bonn, Germany http://titan.informatik.uni-bonn.de/~theisen/
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 20 May 1997 23:53:17 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> We invite you to a new company, a new product, and a determination to keep the NeXT spirit alive. We invite you to @Society Magazine Newsletter, "a newsletter dedicated to the NeXT platform". While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading material for years, I have formed @Society Magazine Newsletter to help fill this void of reading material about our favorite platform. Come join the fun!! We are producing a newsletter that covers NeXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, and future Rhapsody coverage as this new Apple/NeXT OS hits the streets. Our premiere issue is ready for the printers and we invite all NeXT users to subscribe and join the fun. Our first year will be in the form of a professionally printed newsletter, then in one year, we hope to become a full print magazine. In order to achieve this goal, we request the support of the NeXT community to join the fun and subscribe to @Society Magazine Newsletter. Come visit our freshly painted WWW pages at: http://www.oro.net/~tj Thank you for the support, Thomas "TJ" Ferreira
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Stupid printer question Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:02:46 -0400 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2005972002460001@14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> OK, I know this is stupid, but I have never seen a NeXT laserprinter before. I just bought two of them brand new. I took one out, unpacked it, set it up (much easier than on a Mac) and looked for the power switch. There is no power switch. I know it works because I printed with it. Question is: is there a way to turn it off or is it normally off until it gets a signal to print? If the latter is the case, how do they get the fuser to heat up so quickly? It takes virtually no time, click to chunk. Mitch
From: joel.powers@cesoft.com (Joel Powers) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:51:29 -0600 Organization: CE Software, Inc. Message-ID: <joel.powers-ya023380002005971751290001@news.weather.net> References: <joel.powers-ya023380001905971634300001@news.weather.net> <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit (Eric_Brown) wrote: > the > list of drivers to select from, several of the drivers listed may be different > personalities of the same driver. The only differences being slightly > different configuration settings. I believe this is what was going on and I thought it was the source of my problems but... The kernal can't seem to find my scsi device. The kernal boots and starts registering devices. It registers PS2controller, keyboard EISA, ect., then: Registering: PCMCIA0 PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 Adaptec7770: Host Adaptor not found at port 4c00 ... ... No SCSI controller or CD-ROM drive found use sd%d, hd%D, fd%d, en%d or tr%d root device? I then type sd0 and get a panic and get a bunch of diagnostics steming from inability to find SCSI controler. I'm using AHA-2840VL/2842VL at port 1c00h I have a conner 1 gig drive, a micropolis 1 gig drive and a Sony CDU31a cd-rom. Any help would be appreciated, TIA joel
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From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Date: 20 May 1997 21:18:31 GMT Message-ID: <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <mitchell.allen-2005972002460001@14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> No power switch, it's turned on and off by the computer. There's a Sleepprinter.app available at most of the FTP sites which will toggle it off and on, and in NS 2.x, there was a TestPrinter.app which had options for printing test pages, and a nifty on/off switch onscreen. You can also turn it on and off with a shell script/command--I believe this is in the FAQ somewhere, also in the docs for SleepPrinter. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Music Kit hangs on Turbo Date: 16 May 1997 08:00:55 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5lh47n$kcd$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I have installed the latest version of the MusicKit on both a NeXTstation ADB Turbo Color and a NeXTstation 25MHz monochrome. It has a problem on the Turbo. Scoreplayer will hang on certain scores. The sound suddenly stops, and nothing more happens. If I hit the "stop" button, or try to quit, the curser goes into spinning mode endlessly. I have to use the Workspace Processes inspector to kill the application. I have gotten similar behavior on the 25MHz when doing a lot of other processes at the same time as playing a score. But on the Turbo, this happens reliably regardless of what else running. It depends only on the score being played. It also happens when doing "Perform Internal" on Calliope. Anyone else ever see this behavior? Is it a hardware problem, software bug, or what? Thanks for any clues. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 17:45:39 GMT References: <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz>, Andrew Lindesay <apl@kcbbs.gen.nz> wrote: >Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running >Rhaphsody? Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K versions. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 20:45:10 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520202936.11204A-100000@kira> References: <mitchell.allen-2005972002460001@14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <19970521011801.VAA01215@ladder02.news.aol.com> Haven't seen the original post, however from the gist of the followup... - /usr/etc/nppower off will turn the printer off.... however if the printer is off already, this turns it on and then turns it off.... - There are two similar programs designed to turn off the printer when it has not been used for some set interval of time: ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/npoffd.1.0.N.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/npoffd.1.0.README ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/nppowerd.1.0.N.bs.tar.gz ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/nppowerd.1.0.README Hope this helps TjL
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Tue, 20 May 1997 21:19:26 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970520211753.11204E-100000@kira> References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Georg Schwarz <schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de> In-Reply-To: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > the computer running to enable remote logins? Short answer is no longer answer is no but the faq describes how to boot it headless (no monitor) which does have some drawback such as no NXHosting or printing, I believe. TjL ps -- there's a link to the faq at my web page if you haven't found it -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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From: wendling@next.univ-rennes1.fr (Fabrice Wendling) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 21 May 1997 08:45:27 GMT Organization: Universite de Rennes 1, France Message-ID: <5lucn7$9vf$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> Keywords: NEXTSTEP, HD Hello, We installed a second HD on a NextStep 3.3 computer (Intel P. Pro, 64 Mo RAM, 2 x 2 Go HD). It seems that everything works ok for reading/writing the second disk (rsd1a). However, each time a user logs in, the following message is displayed : ' Hard disk 2 is damaged repair initialise ignore ? ' We tried several fsck on /dev/rsd1a but unfortunately, this does not correct the problem. Does anybody already have this type of problem ? If yes, how can it be solved ? Thank you for responses.
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From: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Detlev Droege) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Date: 21 May 1997 11:57:40 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <17497134.84504.10673@kcbbs.gen.nz>, > Andrew Lindesay <apl@kcbbs.gen.nz> wrote: > >Has anybody heard anything about NeXTcubes/NeXTstations running > >Rhaphsody? > > Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K > versions. Then I'd beg for a PowerPC replacement board to fit into a slab. That would be great - an original black machine with state of the art performance. Apple/NeXT - are you listening ? Could anybody ask Jon Rubinstein to put that on the project list ? Detlev -- Detlev Droege, Uni Koblenz, FB Informatik, Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany Tel:+49 261 9119-421,Fax:-497,NeXT/MIME/Emil: droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de C++ is the only current language making COBOL look good. --Bertrand Meyer
From: J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems with 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA on NS 3.3(intel) Date: 21 May 1997 15:41:41 +0100 Organization: Theory Group, Physics, QMW College Sender: jmf@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk Message-ID: <bocraf0yjiy.fsf@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> We are having serious problems with one of our old intel boxes running NS3.3. We have a 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA and we downloaded the latest driver from NextAnswers. The card works but the performace is horrendous: netstat -i shows loads of errors ( >20% packets). We have discarded an ethernet card error because we have used the very same card in a linux box and it works fine. We are almost sure that it is not a network problem, but we are not 100% sure. If anyone else has had experience with this configuration and can tell us about it, we'd appreaciate it. Cheers, Jose -- +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Dr Jose M Figueroa-O'Farrill | Vox: +44.171.975-5055 | | Department of Physics (Rm. 227) | Fax: +44.181.981-7465 | | Queen Mary and Westfield College | mailto:J.M.Figueroa@qmw.ac.uk | | Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK | | | and | | http://stringswww.ph.qmw.ac.uk/~jmf/jmf.html | +----------------------------------+----------------------------------+ with software to run workspace on a remote machine (preferably without needing a display on the local machine - my PC has a Hercules video card!). Doing this would allow users to move to OpenStep from old hardware cheaply and easily, and keep the cool hardware they love. $an
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Two different video cards? Date: 21 May 97 10:56:11 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA8854E-8AAB69@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.misc Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being supported? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: Submit Site <webdude@web-guy.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Submissions $25 Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 09:04:16 -0700 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <33831D00.39D3@web-guy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Submit Your Web Page To 200 Plus Search Engines Just $25 And We Prove It! Check Out http://www.web-guy.com/submit/ 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg66847.thr-2b5465.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> X-Gateway: NASTA Gate 1.18 for FirstClass(R) Finally I have been able to do a full clean install of 4.1 on a cube. Now= to the next challenge. The internal2 gig scsi drive is ID 01, the inter= nal CD-ROM is ID 03. I have another scsi device, a 270 meg quantum, that = I intend to use as a swap disc and for /tmp. Unfortunately the jumpers for this drive for setting the scsi a= ddress are missing and they are of a small type that I don't seem to be a= ble to find spares for, and so this device is limited to ID 00. = When the swap drive is unconnected, the cube boots normally. When I conne= ct it, the boot fails with a scsi error. I know that I can jump into the = ROM monitor and use the b command to boot from the floppy (bfd) or from t= he optical (not installed) or from a scsi device (bsd). How do I specify which scsi id the machine should boot= from? I've tried a variety of parameters but haven't hit upon the right = combination. many thanks. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: drw <wolf@lanl.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WinBook FX and OpenStep Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 11:09:57 -0600 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <33832C65.1D79@lanl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone who has tried/configured the Winbook FX for OpenStep: Can it be done? Details? Any websites other than NeXT/Apple archiving configuration info? Thanks, David
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: new Pentium Pro and Pentium II bug Date: 21 May 1997 19:20:35 GMT Organization: NIEHS Message-ID: <5lvhu3$vk8$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Keywords: FPU, bug, pentium Hi, I read in the latest PC Week about a new bug that affects the Pentium Pro and the Pentium II, but not the Pentium, Pentium MMX, or AMD K6. Apparently it arises when the floating point unit is asked to convert a floating point number to integer format using FIST and FISTP instructions. Does anyone know if this affects NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Does anyone have more information than noted above? Can anyone suggest where I can learn more about this? Thanks, Gregg Dinse 919-541-4931 dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 21 May 1997 16:56:38 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > material for years which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account other languages as English... ;-) NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. Bye Uli _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: www.nexttoyou.de D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ZIP Drive problem Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAJJF9.7rL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 17:04:21 GMT References: <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3381B41C.7DCC@msi.se>, Harald Ellmann <ellmann@msi.se> wrote: >Hello, > >we just got a zip drive for our office and I was curious if I could = >connect it to my slab too. But when I looked at the connector cable that = >came with the drive i saw, that it wouldn't fit into my NeXTs SCSI port. = >Do I just need an adaptor. Yep--all you need is an adapter and you'll be all set. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAJuKz.GMw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 21 May 1997 21:05:23 GMT References: <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de>, Detlev Droege <droege@informatik.uni-koblenz.de> wrote: >In article <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David >Evans) writes: >> >> Pretty much everything I've heard has said that there will be no 68K >> versions. > >Then I'd beg for a PowerPC replacement board to fit into a slab. >That would be great - an original black machine with state of the >art performance. Apple/NeXT - are you listening ? >Could anybody ask Jon Rubinstein to put that on the project list ? > Not to be a party-pooper, but I'd be stunned if that ever happened. There are about 50000 NeXT machines in the world--far fewer than high-end 68k Macs, I should imagine. If Apple doesn't consider the 68k Mac worth supporting in Rhapsody then I can't see the smaller black market being any better. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jr@sade.schiele-ct.de (Jochen Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: new Pentium Pro and Pentium II bug Date: 22 May 1997 06:33:16 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <5m0pbc$pcr$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: <5lvhu3$vk8$1@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) wrote: > Hi, > > I read in the latest PC Week about a new bug that affects > the Pentium Pro and the Pentium II, but not the Pentium, > Pentium MMX, or AMD K6. Apparently it arises when the > floating point unit is asked to convert a floating point > number to integer format using FIST and FISTP instructions. > > Does anyone know if this affects NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? Does > anyone have more information than noted above? Can anyone > suggest where I can learn more about this? > > Thanks, > > Gregg Dinse > 919-541-4931 > dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov See http://www.x86.org. Never had any crash under NS/OS that seemed to be caused by this bug. -- Jochen Richter SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.) Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90 D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99 Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black hardware & rhaphsody Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 01:48:05 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970522013701.2428B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <EAHqo3.A5I@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5lunvk$bgk$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <EAJuKz.GMw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <EAJuKz.GMw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On Wed, 21 May 1997, David Evans wrote: > Not to be a party-pooper, but I'd be stunned if that ever happened. There > are about 50000 NeXT machines in the world--far fewer than high-end 68k Macs, I > should imagine. If Apple doesn't consider the 68k Mac worth supporting in > Rhapsody then I can't see the smaller black market being any better. I agree that neither Rhapsody nor PPC upgrade boards are likely for black hardware. OpenStep/Mach 4.2 (aka Rhapsody Prerelease 0) will probably be the last OS iteration for motorola. As Apple is pledging that OpenStep 4.2 apps will run under the Yellow Box (i.e. Yellow Box = superset of OpenStep), I think the best we can hope for is for a (very) few of the more benevolent software houses to compile m68k support into their early OpenStep apps. Even this doesn't seem too likely, alas. (Too bad - I'd really love to see Pagemaker or Photoshop running on my slab. I know there are NEXTSTEP workalikes for a lot of such apps, but with few exceptions they tend to be too expensive or too limited in functionalty (or both) for my tastes.) -Isaac
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems with 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA on NS 3.3(intel) Date: 22 May 1997 07:11:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5m0rjh$ppn$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <bocraf0yjiy.fsf@strings7.ph.qmw.ac.uk> J.M.Figueroa@QMW.ac.uk (Jose Figueroa-O'Farrill) wrote: > We are having serious problems with one of our old intel boxes running > NS3.3. We have a 3Com EtherLink III 3C509-COMBO ISA and we downloaded > the latest driver from NextAnswers. The card works but the performace > is horrendous: [...] There is a serious bug in the early implementations of the 3Com driver which will cause the card to drop packets. Get the updated driver (release 3.33, NeXTAnswers document #2146) which will completely fix this problem. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: gsk@world.std.com (Geoffrey S Knauth) Subject: Original NeXT box for sale Message-ID: <yjud8qjy9h3.fsf@world.std.com> Sender: gsk@world.std.com Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 12:31:04 GMT The Free Software Foundation has a very old NeXT machine, the first generation that NeXT ever made. Might any NeXT fans want to pay money for this? The money would support the FSF, of course. Interested persons should send replies to: Richard M. Stallman <rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Thanks! -- Geoffrey S. Knauth <gknauth@bbn.com> <http://world.std.com/~gsk/>
From: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au (Peter Milne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation Internal Disc Upgrade Date: 22 May 1997 05:42:09 GMT Organization: C.S.I.R.O Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> Folks, I have a NeXTstation running NS3.2 and with the original internal disc (a Seagate 406 Mbyte ST1480). I plan to upgrade to NS3.3 and to install a larger internal disc. The disc I am seriously considering is a 2.1 Gbyte Seagate Medalist SCSI Pro ST52160N. Questions: Has anyone successfully installed this disc in a NeXTstation? Is its heat output low enough to not to be a problem? Were there any installation problems physically installing the drive? The original disc in my system is mounted using some screws that have what look like rubber shock mounts - several of which are fractured. Can I get replacements for these screws, or can I just screw the disc directly to the case of the NeXTstation? How should I go about putting an operating system and my existing files on the new disk? There seem to be 2 possibilities: 1. set the new disk up as an external drive initially, install 3.3 on it check that I can boot from it, then copy all my files from the existing internal dive across to the new drive. Finally, install the new drive as the internal drive. 2. copy all my files onto a backup device, install the new disk as the internal drive, install NS 3.3 on it, then load the backed up files onto it. Which is the best/safest option? Any tricks I need to know? Thanks, Peter (peter.milne@cmis.csiro.au) C C directly to t
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: 22 May 1997 14:30:13 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5m1l9l$ro5$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de) wrote: > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > the computer running to enable remote logins? No.. but you can boot the machine without a monitor. Check this newsgroup with dejanews.com, it has been reposted plenty of times. A good word to search for is "dongle". HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 22 May 1997 14:33:16 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: > tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > > material for years > which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account > other languages as English... ;-) Indeed. > NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and > meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. And it rocks, too - I'm very much in love with that magazine, it's a lot better then e.g. NIL used to be. Now if someone just supported it just a bit, it could be translated! Apple, are you listening? Puh-leeze? Best wishes, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: danie@fnbinvest.co.za Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Prelude SCSI Install Problem -Adaptec 2842 VL Date: 22 May 1997 15:42:38 GMT Organization: No organisation supplied Message-ID: <5m1phe$n0g$1@hermes.is.co.za> References: <joel.powers-ya023380001905971634300001@news.weather.net> <1997May20.203401.14797@il.us.swissbank.com> <joel.powers-ya023380002005971751290001@news.weather.net> Cc: joel.powers@cesoft.com > (Eric_Brown) wrote: > ..........................Snip > I then type sd0 and get a panic and get a bunch of diagnostics steming from > inability to find SCSI controler. > I'm using AHA-2840VL/2842VL at port 1c00h > I have a conner 1 gig drive, a micropolis 1 gig drive and a Sony CDU31a cd-rom. > > Any help would be appreciated, > TIA > joel > The default jumper setting the card ships with is not the one install wants: "The 284x driver uses port 4c00 by default. You must set the DIP switches on your 284x card to use this port. The correct settings are: sw1:on sw2:on sw3:off sw4:off" (From NeXTanswer 1759 - updated only after I had same problems about 2 years ago :) -- Regards Danie Malan Mailto: danie@fnbinvest.co.za (NeXTmail, MIME & ASCII welcome) CAIRO=NT+OPENSTEP !
From: antoine@arrakis.osd.ulaval.ca (Antoine Gautier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation Internal Disc Upgrade Date: 22 May 1997 15:50:19 GMT Organization: Universite Laval Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m1pvr$jsf$1@athena.ulaval.ca> References: <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> Cc: pwm@cbr.dit.csiro.au In <5m0mbh$ns9@hercules.its.csiro.au> Peter Milne wrote: % Folks, % % I have a NeXTstation running NS3.2 and with the original internal disc % (a Seagate 406 Mbyte ST1480). % % I plan to upgrade to NS3.3 and to install a larger internal disc. The disc % I am seriously considering is a 2.1 Gbyte Seagate Medalist SCSI Pro ST52160N. ... % There seem to be 2 possibilities: % % 1. set the new disk up as an external drive initially, install 3.3 on it % check that I can boot from it, then copy all my files from the existing % internal dive across to the new drive. Finally, install the new drive % as the internal drive. I did that, although with a different Seagate drive (1Gb). I also upgraded to 3.3 before changing disk. It worked fine. Also, unless you screw up with the hardware, you can always go back to you current setup. ------------------------------------------------------- Antoine Gautier (antoine.gautier@fsa.ulaval.ca) ------------------------------------------------------- Professeur, De'partement OSD Faculte' des Sciences de l'Administration Universite' Laval http://www.fsa.ulaval.ca/personnel/gautiera/
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 12:57:13 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and the harddrive to dual master. We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about every combination that I could think of and none of them work. By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 The light on the CD-ROM lights up briefly, but then I get some error message about not getting a packet of information. It does that several times (I let it do this for about thirty minutes or so a few times before giving up). This happens whether there's a CD in it or not. Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 97 13:14:30 -0400 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Message-ID: <AFA9F740-E19D62@141.214.134.235> References: <199705221711.KAA18417@interchg.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.advocacy, nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware On Thu, May 22, 1997 1:11 PM, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca <mailto:godwin@unixg.ubc.ca> wrote: >hmm is your NEC supported?? One of the NeXT Answers states that other CD-ROMs that aren't in the list should be supported, but to let them know if one doesn't work. Right now I'm not sure if the problem is the setup, or the CD-ROM. >how hard is it for you to get a SCSI and >CDROM? that's just the quickest way to solve the problem! (you can always >install the EIDE driver letter when the system is setup) I may do that, or I may just purchase an IBM PC 365 (one of the computers listed as working). rob -- <mailto: "Robert A. Decker" comrade@umich.edu> Listen to my Realaudio playlist:<http://hmrl.cancer.med.umich.edu/Rob/index.ssi> Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #10: "Wow. I'm a genius too. I think. BEEP." -Chris Elliott
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines. Be tired NO MORE. @Society Magazine... Date: 22 May 1997 17:56:31 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> I was unaware and did not consider other countries in my original message. I wish I could read the German language because I would subscribe. I am a NeXT junkie so when I found no ENGLISH based NeXT magazines or newsletters, I decided to start @Society Magazine Newsletter. Maybe I will have to learn German so I can subscribe. Best of luck with your NeXT magazine. Thomas TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine http://www.oro.net/~tj In article <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de>, neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) wrote: > Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: > > tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > > > While no one else has stepped forward to produce any NeXT based reading > > > material for years > > > which, of course, is not entirely true, at least if you take into account > > other languages as English... ;-) > > Indeed. > > > NEXTTOYOU has been on the market for three years now with growing success and > > meanwhile has up to 70 pages an issue. > > And it rocks, too - I'm very much in love with that magazine, it's a lot > better then e.g. NIL used to be. Now if someone just supported it just a > bit, it could be translated! Apple, are you listening? Puh-leeze? > > Best wishes, Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 10:49:48 -0800 Organization: MetaWire, Inc Message-ID: <asila-2205971049480001@205.219.92.162> Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find any past newsgroup messages to this specific problem: I'm trying to get the "Prelude to Rhapsody" (OpenStep prerelease 4.2) installed on a no-name Intel clone which has an IDE hard-disk and IDE CD-ROM. By selecting the "EIDE and ATAPI" driver I've gotten the first part of the installation to work. I can bring the machine up in single user mode and see that the files have indeed been copied from the CD-ROM to the hard disk. However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the "Configuring Device Drivers" section. Does this ring any bells? Is there a newer (than the one on the prerelease 4.2 floppy) "EIDE" driver that I need? Or is this my hardware (but then why does single user mode work?) Thanks for any help, ++matt PS The only documentation I was able to find that even mentioned this was the "EIDE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP 3.3" note.
From: jon@haveman.org (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: replacement disk for NeXTStation Date: 22 May 1997 18:06:24 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5m21v0$c01@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5lqetn$3ecu@elmo.cadvision.com> guzzibill writes > In <337E0A4B.718F@starpage.com> "Jesse D. Hurlbut" wrote: > > I just got a hand-me-down NeXTStation and I can't get the hard > > drive to spin up--I assume it's dead... so I'm looking for any > > suggestions for a reasonably-priced replacement drive. > > Is there a limitation on how big a drive I can put in? (2Gb?) > > Does any SCSI drive work, or do I need something in particular? > here's the SCSImodes output from my new addition. > > guzzibill:4# scsimodes /dev/rsd0a > SCSI information for /dev/rsd0a > Drive type: QUANTUM FIREBALL_TM2110S You might also find this drive listed as: Tempest_TM32110S I just called Quantum....it's the same drive. -- Jon Haveman http://www.haveman.org/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@haveman.org Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (Brad Yearwood) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 22 May 1997 11:50:19 -0700 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> In article <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235>, Robert A. Decker <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell >Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. > > I've tried to use all the NeXTAnswers at the web site for installing onto >a system without SCSI, but with an ATAPI CD-ROM. We put both the harddrive >and the CD-ROM on the primary controller and set the CD-ROM to slave and >the harddrive to dual master. > We go through the installation process with the floppies. I set the >CD-ROM to be an Adaptec SCSI driver like one of the tech notes, with the >harddrive to EIDE and that didn't work. I set the CD-ROM and hardrive to be >dual primary/secondary ATAPI/EIDE and that didn't work. I tried just about >every combination that I could think of and none of them work. > > > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where >it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets >to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: >NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 I would be inclined to blame an incompatibility with the NEC drive. Note in NeXTanswer 2265 that no NEC drives are in the supported list, and 2 NEC drives are in the Known Problems list. I was able to install successfully, after a bit of hassle, from a Toshiba 5602 drive. It's not in the supported list, but the 5302 is. The hassle factor came in the form of conflicting and confusing information and some unexpected behavior. The machine has two EIDE interfaces, and was originally configured with the hard disk on one, and the CD-ROM on the other. I tried to get this to work with the Dual EIDE driver option, but it would not recognize the CD drive. I then moved the CD drive to the slave position on the first EIDE interface. This worked, but I can't recall exactly which driver choices I used - probably just the normal EIDE driver (not the dual), specifying that to the install dialog for both the CD and hard disk interfaces. Whichever tech note suggests specifying the CD as SCSI with an Adaptech interface, is either obsolete or a red herring. Once the kernel starts, the device probe messages hint that at some point the CD may be internally spoofed up to look like it's on SCSI, but from the user's point of view, this now seems to be irrelevant. Once the installer could see the CD, everything installed and ran fine, and CD insertion and operations work fine in the running OS. I'd suggest that the first thing to do is to buy/beg/borrow a CD drive which is at first glance related to one listed in NeXTanswers 2265, and hook it up to the slave position on the first EIDE. [Following is irrelevant to the query, but I'm exploiting the forum to troll for help on another Prelude install glitch.] See also my gripe in comp.sys.next.software about WebObject Builder not being runnable on Mach due to some apparent missing things (looks like they're part of EOF, which wasn't in the Prelude package). It does appear to run OK when installed on NT (gak, phooey), though. Brad Yearwood bny@spamdunk_cut_here_crl.com (make that crl.com) Cotati, CA
From: "Robert Norman" <rjnorman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cannot mount root - 2940AU Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:30:14 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello group! I'm a PC novice riding the OpenStep wave from WWDC. So... I've now got a new PC, installed an Adaptec 2940AU with a Seagate ST31055N 1.2G. I setup the serial and parallel ports per install OpenStep configuration instructions. Disconnected the IDE CDRom (should it be disabled in the BIOS?), and did the Openstep install from floppy disk and SCSI CDRom. I've been able to go through the full install procedure but on reboot from my SCSI device I get the Panic message "(Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root)" This is in the context: .... Resetting SCSI Bus... Registering: A2940_0 at 0x6000 .... Registering: SG0 at sc0 .... Registering: kmDevice0 rootdev 300, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=19 ---------- When I first ran into this problem, I used the Adaptec utility to reformat the disk, but did nothing with FDISK with the assumption that the OpenStep install would properly prepare the disk. The reinstall of OpenStep again proceeded OK and finished saying the disk was ready to use. Then got the Panic message again and now I'm about to panic? Any suggestions?
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From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: 22 May 1997 18:11:56 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <asila-2205971049480001@205.219.92.162> is your drive IDE or EIDE drive??? what kind of machine is it? Matt Covey (asila@metawire.com) wrote: : Sorry if this has been asked before, but I didn't find any past newsgroup : messages to this specific problem: : I'm trying to get the "Prelude to Rhapsody" (OpenStep prerelease 4.2) : installed on a no-name Intel clone which has an IDE hard-disk and IDE : CD-ROM. By selecting the "EIDE and ATAPI" driver I've gotten the first : part of the installation to work. : I can bring the machine up in single user mode and see that the files have : indeed been copied from the CD-ROM to the hard disk. : However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after : printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the : "Configuring Device Drivers" section. : Does this ring any bells? Is there a newer (than the one on the prerelease : 4.2 floppy) "EIDE" driver that I need? Or is this my hardware (but then : why does single user mode work?) : Thanks for any help, : ++matt : PS The only documentation I was able to find that even mentioned this was : the "EIDE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP 3.3" note.
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 22 May 1997 18:10:19 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good summaries of what went on.. unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. Godwin
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory on NextDimension Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:20:44 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg67206.thr-2b753a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg67206.thr-2b753a.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Is there a way to tell how much memory is installed on an ND board once t= he computer is up and running and the OS installed? I've looked through p= references, etc, and I can't see anything that reports the NDs memory. The reason I am curious is that I know I have installed 40 megs of ram on= the ND board, but during the operating system installation process, it r= eported only 16 megs and I'd rather not reinstall just to see that number= again... I get the correct report of the memory on the motherboard--64 megs--when = I jump into the ROM monitor and type m, but I dont' see any information a= bout the nextdimension board at all. NextAnswers has confused me more than anything else. In one place it says= an ND board requires simms to be installed in groups of 4, yet if the in= stallation process report of the memory the ND actually sees is correct, = then it's only seeing the first two 8 meg simms (or, the two 8s and the 2 4s in the next slots) as 16 megs, a= nd ignoring the remaining 4 meg simms installed. -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Message-ID: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <AFA8854E-8AAB69@141.214.134.235> Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 11:36:56 GMT In article <AFA8854E-8AAB69@141.214.134.235> "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> writes: > > Is there any problem in using two different video cards from two > different manufacturers as long as both are listed as being supported? > > rob > If you are talking about using two PCI video boards for OpenStep/Mach in an Intel PC at the same time: yes, expect some problems. Most boards claim the standard VGA address space. On a very limited number of boards (e.g. the Matrox Millenium), you can disable this behaviour, so it can be used as a second video board and you may be able to boot your system. But even then I don't think it will work. I suppose the two videodrivers of your boards must know how to handle a double sized desktop and split it over the two boards. I am not certain about this; ten years ago you could have a cube with two screens. So may be it is handled at a higher level. Anyone? hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
From: terry@arcane.com (Terry Wilcox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory on NextDimension Date: 22 May 1997 21:41:35 GMT Organization: Arcane Systems Ltd. Sender: terry@www.arcane.com Message-ID: <slrn5o9eos.2at.terry@arcane.arcane.com> References: <msg67206.thr-2b753a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> On Thu, 22 May 1997 15:20:44 -0400, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >The reason I am curious is that I know I have installed 40 megs of ram on= > the ND board, but during the operating system installation process, it r= >eported only 16 megs and I'd rather not reinstall just to see that number= > again... If you've got 40 megs, including two 8's, I'm assuming you've got two 8's and six 4's. When it says groups of 4 simms, it means 4 identical simms. You either need to go to four 8's and four 4's or eight 4's. It's likely just seeing four of the 4's and ignoring the group of combined 8's and 4's. Terry Wilcox -- Terry Wilcox Arcane Systems Ltd. terry@arcane.com
From: godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 22 May 1997 20:26:59 GMT Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5m2a6j$m1$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> <5m24hb$mma@crl2.crl.com> you can get EOF runtime somewhere in nextanswers or ftp.next.com
From: Joaquin Menchaca <menchaca_joaquin@tandem.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 15:27:09 -0700 Organization: Sombody out there Message-ID: <3384C83D.9E6AB85C@tandem.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Is there information I can get for the NeXT Cube? I want to get info on the components, chipsets, and ports. - joaquin
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From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 01:24:18 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What software and drivers might be needed? Here's my specific situation: I have a dual-boot machine running OPENSTEP 4.1 and Win95 and a cheap-o Mustek TWAIN-compliant flatbed color scanner. It comes with the software needed to make it work from Win95/NT, but I have no idea where to even start to make it work under OPENSTEP. I'd really like to be able to use it without having to boot into Win95. Oh, and of course I'd like a free--or really cheap--solution, though I suspect that if a solution exists it will cost more than the scanner did... If I could get it working under OPENSTEP then the only reason I'd have to ever use Win95 is to play games...and the less I use Winblows the happier I'll be. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: Popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 22:00:37 -0500 Organization: Health Media Research Lab -- UofM Cancer Center Message-ID: <Popadich-2205972200370001@st084.ichange.net> I'm happy to say that I am the proud recipient of Apple's WWDC Openstep/Prelude to Rhapsody software. I can honestly say I'm excited about installing this OS and giving it try. I even purchased an Intel machine a while back ago for this very reason. Configuration is: Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter SCSI id 0: FUJITSU Hard Disk internal SCSI id 2: SANYO CD-Rom internal Diamond Stealth 64 video VRAM 3Com Etherlink III I have my IDE controller disabled and Power Management Disabled. Unfortunately it seems that installing system software on an Intel machine isn't the same as running a system installer on a Mac...I guess this is the advantage of having total control over the hardware... I've followed the prelude to rhapsody installation guide as closely as possible, but I can't get the CD-Rom to boot OpenStep. I'm hoping to avoid having to tear my computer appart, and digging around with terminators and such. If anyone has any ideas as to what might be wrong I would really appreciate your help. Thanks Alex Popadich The following is an excerpt from my installer log: Registering: EISA0 PCI bus support enabled Registering: PCI0 Registering: PCMCIA0 PCIC: No device at base address 0x03e0 Adaptec 2940 Host adapter found at Bus 0 Target 7 a2940_0: 16 Targets per Bus Resetting SCSI Bus... Registering: a2940_0 at 0xfc00 Registering: sc0 at a2940_0 SCSI Bus 0 Target 7 sd0: FUJITSU M1606S-512 bytes sd0: Device Capacity: 1041 MB sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01 Registering: sd1 at Target 2 LUN 0 at sc0 sd1: Waiting for drive to come ready................ sd1: Disk Not Ready Registering: sg0 at sc0 Registering: sg1 at sc0 Registering: sg2 at sc0 Registering: sg3 at sc0 Registering: event0 Registering: kmDevice0 root on sd1 rootdev 608, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=15 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root
From: rkurhajetz@aol.com (Rkurhajetz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: seeking : Nextstep 3.3 on Intel tech help in Washington-Baltimore Area Date: 23 May 1997 03:23:19 GMT Message-ID: <19970523032301.XAA28894@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Hello Looking for Nextstep-on-Intel savvy technical assistance in the Washington-Balitmore area - have a system that has been partially completed by a vendor who is not real " tuned in" to NS on Intel and I could really use some help in getting the system into a fully functioning mode - the problem at this point is primarily related to the video board ( have tried both a Number Nine 771 Motion and a Diamond Stealth 64 ) and the 2 GB Quantum disk - any and all help - assistance - inspiration much appreciated - Bob Kurhajetz please respond to my work e-mail bob@monet.dt.navy.mil
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 03:21:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good >summaries of what went on.. > You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris Lowzinski. Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author has been ignored.. >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. > I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: davidl@hal-pc.org (David Ludwig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mach RAM requirements Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 05:50:37 GMT Organization: Houston Area League of PC Users Message-ID: <5m3b9j$c6a$1@news.hal-pc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm interesting in installing Openstep/Mach on a laptop whose RAM is maxxed out at 20MB. How much luck will I have speed-wise using 8-bit color? The requirements sheet for the OS recommends at least 16MB, however I learned long ago not to trust a company's 'requirements'. Thanks! -- David Ludwig | "Just because you're paranoid doesn't davidl@hal-pc.org | mean that they're not out to get you." http://www.hal-pc.org/~davidl | - Catch 22
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: Cannot mount root - 2940AU Message-ID: <EAMIxD.F1@hurka.UUCP> Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 07:46:24 GMT In article <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> "Robert Norman" <rjnorman@earthlink.net> writes: > I'm a PC novice riding the OpenStep wave from WWDC. > > So... I've now got a new PC, installed an Adaptec 2940AU with a > Seagate ST31055N 1.2G. I setup the serial and parallel ports > per install OpenStep configuration instructions. Disconnected > the IDE CDRom (should it be disabled in the BIOS?), and did the > Openstep install from floppy disk and SCSI CDRom. I've been able > to go through the full install procedure but on reboot from my > SCSI device I get the Panic message "(Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: > cannot mount root)" > > This is in the context: > .... > Resetting SCSI Bus... > Registering: A2940_0 at 0x6000 > .... > Registering: SG0 at sc0 > .... > Registering: kmDevice0 > rootdev 300, howto 0 > vfs_mountroot: error=19 rootdev 300 identifies the root device. 300 means first IDE disk. So the system tries to put root file system on your IDE disk instead of your SCSI disk. The correct number for you is rootdev 600. This is the identification of the first SCSI drive. I think that the installation recognized that you have IDE disk (did you loaded the IDE/EIDE driver?) and it tries to be smart and put the rootdev on IDE disk, since the IDE disk is the one the system normally boot from. I advice you go to the BIOS setup (PC Config Utility ROM) of your computer and completely disable the whole EIDE/IDE interface or at least disconnect your IDE driver for installation. Than do the installation once more. This way we will be sure that there is no EIDE/IDE interface so the installation cannot put the root device on it. Once you finish the whole installation you can enable the EIDE/IDE interface and install the EIDE driver using Configure.app in /NextAdmin directory. Good luck, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: memory on NextDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAM677.n6v@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 03:11:30 GMT References: <msg67206.thr-2b753a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <msg67206.thr-2b753a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >Is there a way to tell how much memory is installed on an ND board once t= >he computer is up and running and the OS installed? I've looked through p= >references, etc, and I can't see anything that reports the NDs memory. > It's printed when the system boots, so if you chug through /usr/adm/messages you should be able to find it. >NextAnswers has confused me more than anything else. In one place it says= > an ND board requires simms to be installed in groups of 4, yet if the in= >stallation process report of the memory the ND actually sees is correct, = >then it's only seeing the first two >8 meg simms (or, the two 8s and the 2 4s in the next slots) as 16 megs, a= >nd ignoring the remaining 4 meg simms installed. > They *must* be installed in groups of four identical SIMMs, otherwise very weird things will happen. The ND has a 128-bit data bus. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 10:30:42 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <EAMqJ7.B6H@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> In article <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) writes: > > Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What > software and drivers might be needed? > NeXTStep is sadly deficient for scanner support. Hopefully Rhapsody will improve the situation. Currently there is no standard driver interface :-( There are two shareware apps: "ScanMaker.app is a driver for the Microtek ScanMaker, OmniMedia 6cx (A ScanMaker 600ZS clone), and the Apple Color OneScanner." and "the 0.91b version of "scan", a scanner driver which supports the UMAX Vista S-8 scanner". This comes with source, and plug in drivers. I've looked at it briefly and it looks relativly straigh forwards. CAS has software which supports Ricoh4X0, HP Scanjet, Sharp JX10(?), AGFA, Dunord Improvision, and Dunord Fujitsu. Unfortunatly it's pretty specialised stuff, and not really very suited to casual scanning (it's designed for scanning 1000's of animation drawings). It's also expensive if you just want to put a few images on your web page. Your best bet would be to write a new driver for "Scan", unless anyone knows better? $an (they guy who got dumped with supporting scanners at CAS)
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 13:27:44 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5m460g$bnk$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> <EAMqJ7.B6H@cam-ani.co.uk> Cc: ians@cam-ani.co.uk In <EAMqJ7.B6H@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson wrote: > In article <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don > Yacktman) writes: > > Has anyone got experience getting scanners to work under OPENSTEP? What > > software and drivers might be needed? > NeXTStep is sadly deficient for scanner support. Hopefully Rhapsody will > improve the situation. > Currently there is no standard driver interface :-( > There are two shareware apps: > "ScanMaker.app is a driver for the Microtek ScanMaker, OmniMedia 6cx (A > ScanMaker 600ZS clone), and the Apple Color OneScanner." > and "the 0.91b version of "scan", a scanner driver which > supports the UMAX Vista S-8 scanner". This comes with source, and plug in > drivers. I've looked at it briefly and it looks relativly straigh > forwards. > CAS has software which supports Ricoh4X0, HP Scanjet, Sharp JX10(?), AGFA, > Dunord Improvision, and Dunord Fujitsu. Unfortunatly it's pretty > specialised stuff, and not really very suited to casual scanning (it's > designed for scanning 1000's of animation drawings). It's also expensive > if you just want to put a few images on your web page. > Your best bet would be to write a new driver for "Scan", unless anyone > knows better? A freeware user level driver including source for the Mustek CX6000 (3-pass) scanner series is available on my homepage. (Beware: This scanner has a real bad SCSI interface and dislikes any synchronous transfers on the bus, it seems to works at a m68k NeXT) Usually it is easy to port a, say Linux or BSD driver, over to NeXTSTEP/OpenStep. I have the needed SCSI sources here, just give me a call. There are several commercial solutions, see ftp://peanuts.leo.org/next/Commercial/hardware/scanner/ -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: pete@ohm.york.ac.uk (-bat.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: 23 May 1997 10:09:52 GMT Organization: The University of York, UK Sender: pcf1@york.ac.uk Message-ID: <5m3qdg$4s4$1@netty.york.ac.uk> References: <asila-2205971049480001@205.219.92.162> asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) writes: > However, the system hangs when going to multiuser mode right after > printing (using the "-v" boot option) the "EIDE" message of the > "Configuring Device Drivers" section. Yeah - it may well be your PS2 mouse driver which causes hanging on some motherboards which don't have such a device. Boot single user, go into /devices/System.config and take out the PS2 mouse from the table files you will find there. Actually - if you want to find out for sure which driver is hanging then boot single user and type 'driverLoader i' which will go through the drivers one at a time loading them and asking yes or no before each one - that way you can see which one is causing the freeze (and then remove it from the tables). bet it's the PS2 mouse though... -bat.
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 23 May 1997 15:11:05 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a Pentium Pro system with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller. Currently I have a Baracuda 4.3gb boot drive that I have set asside only 2 Gb for NextStep. I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition it something like this sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb (for swap space) 2GB dos partition Now here's the questions.... 1.) From what I understand the WIDE SCSI drives have to be at lun 8 and above, is this true? 2.) [Newbie question here] Is there anyway (with my existing hardware) to boot from the Cheeta drive and have other (narrow SCSI drives) on luns 1-6? 3.) How do I create a NeXT/Openstep bootable WIDE SCSI (or for that matter any SCSI disk) disk that has more than one NeXT partition on a Pentium Pro? My basic (and it is very very basic) understanding is to partition the disk using DOS fdisk, but with the PentiumPro I can't boot from dos 6. Should I try to boot to Win96 using the Baracuda drive, and partition the Cheeta drive using Win95 fdisk? Why won't NeXT's fdisk work? Thank's in advance for any help or suggestions.... David A. Johnson Research Engineer Northwestern University
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 23 May 1997 15:45:29 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> daj@nwu.edu wrote: > I have a Pentium Pro system with an Adaptec 2940UW SCSI controller. > Currently I have a Baracuda 4.3gb boot drive that I have set > asside only 2 Gb for NextStep. > I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I > would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition > it something like this > sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb > (for swap space) 2GB dos partition This is NOT wise. If you make another partition the swap drive, it will THRASH the drive. i.e. as you read some files in partition a, and a pge swap occurs in partition b, the head of the drive will have to leave partition a, travel to partition b, then go back to partition a. You will get a net performance decrease. If you want to gain performance, you need a seperate drive for swapping, not a seperate partition. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 16:30:41 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> Well, I guess everyone has their own opinions. It is our belief a NeXT based newsletter is needed and will be fun for all involved. The main goal here is to get the NeXT community pulled together and to find out more about one another. Also, the number of ads comment is interesting. We have not really placed that many ads here but are keeping up on a weekly basis until our links in Yahoo! and other directories are in place. As you probably know, it takes a while for the directories to make the link active and until then, I wanted to keep all aware of our endeavour. When the links are active, you will find less posts about the newsletter. Anywho, we do appreciate all comments. Take care, TJ Ferreira @Society Magazine Newsletter http://www.oro.net/~tj In article <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: > On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: > >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. > >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i > >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good > >summaries of what went on.. > > > > You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris > Lowzinski. > > Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and > interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author > has been ignored.. > > > >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think > >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. > > > > > I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this > point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the > number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... > > > > -- > Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> > NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: asila@metawire.com (Matt Covey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Single user: yes, multi: no Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 09:12:29 -0800 Organization: MetaWire, Inc Message-ID: <asila-2305970912300001@205.219.92.162> References: <asila-2205971049480001@205.219.92.162> <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In article <5m229c$nti$2@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca>, godwin@unixg.ubc.ca (Godwin) wrote: > is your drive IDE or EIDE drive??? what kind of machine is it? This is a machine that was - literaly - handed to me. It's built (OEM'd?) by "Classic Computers". The drive is a SAMSUNG WNR-31601A. (I was told EIDE - but then I did PenPoint programming, too [besides Unix/Mac].) ++matt
From: Robert Thille <robert@ictv.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 11:15:44 -0700 Organization: ICTV Inc. Message-ID: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse and all cables. It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer CDs are included. 16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. $1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area It's not ADB, but I believe it has the ROMs which would allow it to be used with an ADB keyboard and mouse. If you know the ROM version necessary, let me know and I'll check. You would still need the ADB sound box. Also, here are the answers to other questions I've got about the machine: Work machine. Not a server. We used sparcs for the servers. Non adb, L shaped return key keyboard. I believe it is the original quantum hard drive. I can check. No original boxes. Reached best via e-mail, or call 805.692.9834 Robert -- Robert Thille NeXTMail robert@ictv.com OK
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 23 May 1997 21:25:26 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> In-Reply-To: <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> On 05/23/97, Thomas Ferreira wrote: >Well, I guess everyone has their own opinions. It is our belief >a NeXT based newsletter is needed and will be fun for all involved. >The main goal here is to get the NeXT community pulled together >and to find out more about one another. > I think anyone who knows what I've been up to knows that I'm all for this. And I don't want to be putting down any effort to raise NEXTSTEP awareness through whatever means, and I'm sure that the following is going to seem that that is my goal. It is not. >Also, the number of ads comment is interesting. We have not really >placed that many ads here but are keeping up on a weekly basis >until our links in Yahoo! and other directories are in place. As >you probably know, it takes a while for the directories to make >the link active and until then, I wanted to keep all aware of our >endeavour. When the links are active, you will find less posts >about the newsletter. > With all due respect, advertising in inappropriate places for whatever reason is wrong. Advertising repeatedly is even worse. 05/22 - csn.advocacy - Win a FREE subscription 05/22 - csn.marketplace - Win a FREE subscription 05/22 - csn.hardware - Win a FREE subscription 05/20 - csn.hardware - Tired of NO NeXT magazines 05/20 - csn.marketplace - Tired of NO NeXT magazines 05/15 - csn.marketplace - *NEW* NeXT User Group Rates 05/13 - csn.misc - Subscribe to @Society Newsletter 05/06 - csn.marketplace - @Society Magazine ... 05/02 - csn.marketplace - @Society Magazine ... 05/01 - csn.misc - @Society Magazine ... There have also been at least 2 messages to comp.sys.next.announce that have been posted at the same time as posts to other NeXT newsgroups (which the submissions document mentions means that they won't be posted). As I've said, I'm all for new avenues of quality information, but not when its promotion is done using improper techniques. >Anywho, we do appreciate all comments. > >Take care, > >TJ Ferreira >@Society Magazine Newsletter >http://www.oro.net/~tj > >In article <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott >Anguish) wrote: > >> On 05/22/97, Godwin wrote: >> >There is an English next newsletter check CSN.annouce or misc.. >> >the guy that puts it out is a headhunter for next specialists i >> >think.. the newsletter got job postings and news.. pretty good >> >summaries of what went on.. >> > >> >> You're referring to the OpenStep Newsletter from Chris >> Lowzinski. >> >> Unfortunately, its often got glaringly wrong assumptions and >> interpretations in it, and corrected information sent to the author >> has been ignored.. >> >> >> >unless i was hallucinating.. I got one the last few months! I think >> >the newsletter started with 4.0 was just about to come out. >> > >> >> >> I don't think the NeXT world really needs a magazine at this >> point, and I have my doubts about this particular endeavour due to the >> number of ads they've been posting in these newsgroups... >> >> >> >> -- >> Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> >> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com> > -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: boot cube from floppy? Date: 23 May 1997 23:00:05 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5m57hl$acj$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <msg66431.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <19970520191623545950@dyn-144.vin.oleane.com> <msg66713.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg66713.thr-2b1f84.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > <bold>objectivesw@dial.oleane.com writes: > >OK, just jump to the ROM Monitor by hiting command + command (left and > >right) + tilde and then type "bfd" (Boot Floppy Disk) = > So I've managed to do the above, and I've managed to do 3 installations > and I'm conducting the fourth now. > > After the first installation when it said it had to reboot, I hit return > and it began to reboot. Unfortunately it rebooted single user from the CD. > So I reinstalled. You didn't need to reinstall. The only reason the system would reboot from the CDrom is that the CD reader is set to a lower SCSI ID than the hard disk. You could have shut the system down and changed the ID on the CD drive, and then powered up again. > After the second installation I hit return to reboot, but to prevent it > booting from the Cd, I removed the Cd first. Bad move--the reboot program > is on the CD and I got tons of errors. So I reinstalled. You didn't need to reinstall. It is not that the reboot program is on the CD. It is that in the absence of any other instructions, the boot ROM will boot the SCSI drive that has the lowest SCSI ID. Of course, if there is no disk in the drive, you will get "tons of errors". > After the third installation I hit return to reboot and I got an animated= > icon saying "Loading from disc." (interesting that I've not seen this on= > white hardware). I was prepared for black hardware to be slower, but 3 h= > ours and 10 minutes later it was > still spinning its icon and saying "Loading from disc." You didn't need to reinstall. By this time, you should have gone to the boot ROM and select "verbose mode" bootup, so you can see what is going on, rather than watching the spinning wheel. >so I'm in the middle of the fouth install now. > Anyone have any suggestions? Yes. Change the CD reader so it has a SCSI ID higher than that of the hard drive. > David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Also fix your reply-to address so when I send you email I don't get back "Host unknown" messages. panther.middlebury.edu does not know flannet carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: multiple internal scsi drives on black Date: 23 May 1997 23:24:09 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5m58up$acj$2@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <msg66847.thr-2b5465.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Cc: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu In <msg66847.thr-2b5465.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> David Herren wrote: > I have > another scsi device, a 270 meg quantum, that I intend to > use as a swap disc and for /tmp. Unfortunately the jumpers > for this drive for setting the scsi address are missing and > they are of a small type that I don't seem to be sble to > find spares for, and so this device is limited to ID 00. You really should try to get some jumpers. Or use wire-wrap to connect the pins. It will make your future life much easier. > When the swap drive is unconnected, the cube boots normally. > When I connect it, the boot fails with a scsi error. I know > that I can jump into the ROM monitor and use the b command > to boot from the floppy (bfd) or from the optical (not > installed) or from a scsi device (bsd). How do I specify > which scsi id the machine should boot from? I've tried a > variety of parameters but haven't hit upon the right combination. bsd(1,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd1 Will boot and run from the drive with the second-highest SCSI ID. The two parts of the command above mean, respectively: bsd(1,0,0) Get the bootstrap code from device sd1, and run a file named sdmach. rootdev=sd1 And, by the way, use sd1 as the root file system. It is not necessary for the operating system to reside on the root file system, just usual practise. But that's too long a message to store in the NVRAM for the computer to remember automatically when the power comes on, since there is a limit of 12 characters. You might try setting the boot command parameter to sd(1,0,0)- and see if that works. To reiterate, trying to have a swapdisk at an address lower than the root disk will cause you a lot of software pain. Try harder to find some jumpers. Let me know if you can measure the separation of the pins, I have a fairly extensive collection of old jumpers of various sizes. > David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu panther.middlebury.edu does not recognize flannet.middlebury.edu carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: drehring@infowave.net (David Rehring) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 16:31:54 -0800 Organization: InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. Message-ID: <drehring-ya02408000R2305971631540001@news.aurora.net> References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com>, robert@ictv.com wrote: >Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! > >For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM > > >NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse >and all cables. > >It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer >CDs are included. > >16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. > >$1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area > Is it just me, or does this price seem a little high for this box considering it doesn't come with it's monitor (since you need the NeXT specific one). Most of the 'Turbo-stations' I've seen in comp.sys.next.marketplace are in the $500-$1000, but also include the monitor (which ain't cheep)... Just my 1 cent worth... Later, -- David Rehring Psychos do not explode when light hits Senior Software Engineer them, no matter how crazy they are... InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. (Formerly GDT Softworks, Inc.) And totally insane guy!
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: 24 May 1997 00:14:28 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <Popadich-2205972200370001@st084.ichange.net> Popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) wrote: > > I'm happy to say that I am the proud recipient of Apple's WWDC > Openstep/Prelude to Rhapsody software. I can honestly say I'm excited > about installing this OS and giving it try. I even purchased an Intel > machine a while back ago for this very reason. > > Configuration is: > Adaptec 2940 SCSI adapter > SCSI id 0: FUJITSU Hard Disk internal > SCSI id 2: SANYO CD-Rom internal > Diamond Stealth 64 video VRAM > 3Com Etherlink III > > I have my IDE controller disabled and Power Management Disabled. > > Unfortunately it seems that installing system software on an Intel machine > isn't the same as running a system installer on a Mac...I guess this is > the advantage of having total control over the hardware... Bad news: it is exactly your CD-ROM (sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01) that for some reason has proven incompatible with NEXTSTEP. Replace it with a, say, Toshiba, and everything will work... Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Robert Norman" <rjnorman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installed -- now how to boot multiuser Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 18:29:58 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5m5ge3$3q7@ecuador.earthlink.net> References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> <EAMIxD.F1@hurka.UUCP> <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net>, "Robert Norman" <rjnorman@earthlink.net> wrote: > >Thanks Tomas, > >I've been able to continue with my install after disabling my "primary >master" under Standard CMOS setup. (When I tried to disable the "Internal >PCI/IDE", the system hung.) So now I've installed OpenStep -- thank you for >that, but now I don't know how to get into multiuser mode - I know that I >need to get into multiuser mode as 'root' in order to install OpenStep >Developer but I just boot up as "ME". I've searched all the docs, and >tried playing with various apps to turn on multiuser but I'm stuck. > > >Rob Norman (This was suppose to go under my original "Cannot mount root..." thread but I'm also new to newsgroups) OK I've solved the multiuser question. The relevant part of the user documentation is "If you're logged in as 'me', GIVE YOURSELF A PASSWORD and log out. Then log in as root. If you don't set a password, you won't pass go! I've just finished installing DeveloperTools.pkg while writing this. Now on to interface builder, I hope. Rob Norman "Prelude to Rhapsody" or Foreplay 101.
From: "Robert Norman" <rjnorman@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installed -- now how to boot multiuser Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 18:06:57 -0700 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <5m5f2t$f7u@chile.earthlink.net> References: <5m23f5$1fo@bolivia.earthlink.net> <EAMIxD.F1@hurka.UUCP> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks Tomas, I've been able to continue with my install after disabling my "primary master" under Standard CMOS setup. (When I tried to disable the "Internal PCI/IDE", the system hung.) So now I've installed OpenStep -- thank you for that, but now I don't know how to get into multiuser mode - I know that I need to get into multiuser mode as 'root' in order to install OpenStep Developer but I just boot up as "ME". I've searched all the docs, and tried playing with various apps to turn on multiuser but I'm stuck. Rob Norman
From: svail@next.com (Scott Vail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Date: 24 May 1997 04:33:41 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5m5r35$cgq$1@news2.apple.com> References: <wireheadEAELtH.MGG@netcom.com> In article <wireheadEAELtH.MGG@netcom.com> wirehead@netcom.com (David J Harr) writes: > > I have been spending way too much time trying to get my Intel machine > up and running w/ OS 4.2, instead of programming it to prove it is a > superior development environment to my boss. I have gotten through > all the gotchas, but one, and this one is a doozy. We have bought a > whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet > cards in our PCs, The nice thing about these cards is that they are > switchable 10-BaseT/100-BaseT. However, try as I might, I seem to be > unable to get the system to recognize the card. As a stopgap, I have > gone back to one of our old EtherLink III ISA cards, which the system > recognizes just fine. However, this is a less than optimal solution, > as this machine will be acting as a server for our development efforts > if I can prove the worth of the development environment, and having a > server on a 10-BaseT connection while all the clients are on 100-BaseT > connection is a rather paradoxical if not downright perverse state of > affairs... > > If anyone knows of any compatible drivers for this card, I would be > very grateful if you would contact me, or leave word in this newsgroup > if you feel the answer is of general interest. > > Thanks, > > > David > > > David J Harr > soldier of misfortune > wirehead@netcom.com > > "We crash your computer, so you don't have to!" These drivers are not yet available from Apple (though they should be soon). Keep your eye on Apple Intel Beta Drivers web-page: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_Inf ormation/Drivers/4.x_Drivers/Beta --Scott -- This is not official NeXT/Apple stuff, so ignore me if you want. http://www.next.com/~svail/
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 23:00:22 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970523225949.23966A-100000@kira> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> In-Reply-To: <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> > With all due respect, advertising in inappropriate places for > whatever reason is wrong. Advertising repeatedly is even worse. I'd have to agree.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: "Tony Chow" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix/IBM 6x86 and NeXTSTEP Date: 23 May 1997 22:29:06 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bc67c8$d2ae7520$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> Has anyone experienced any problems with this combination? I have an IBM 6x86L PR-166 (the newest model).
From: "Tony Chow" <everblue@ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How's this hardware setup for NX 3.3? Date: 23 May 1997 22:33:47 GMT Organization: University of California, Los Angeles Message-ID: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> I have -Tyan Tomcat I motherboard -IBM 6x86L PR-166 CPU -Adaptec 2930 SCSI-2 card -3 Internal IDE HD's on two EIDE controllers -Panasonic SCSI 4x CD-ROM Drive -Matrox MGA Millenium 4MB Any precautions when installing NS 3.3? (it'll arrive tomorrow)
From: fh@energotec.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Singleusermode booten bei Motorola HW Date: 22 May 1997 09:57:52 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> hi, kann mir einer sagen, wie ich bei schwarzer Motorola Hardware im Singleuser Mode booten kann ?? so long
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI CD-ROM problems (NEC CDR-1400). Can't install! Date: 23 May 1997 19:46:54 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5m4s7e$23c@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <AFA9F32C-E0A81A@141.214.134.235> Organisation: RRR "Robert A. Decker" <comrade@umich.edu> wrote: > > I'm trying to install OpenStep 4.2 (the one we got at WWDC) on Dell > Optiplex GX Pro that doesn't have SCSI. [...] > By saying they don't work, here's what I mean: We get to the point where > it recognizes the harddrive and that there's an ATAPI device. It then gets > to the point of recognizing the correct CD-ROM. The line is: > NEC CD-ROM Drive:282 3.07 [...] > Should this be working correctly? Anyone know what's going on? Hi Robert, i had exactly the same problem with the same drive. It doesn't even work after installing from a different CD-drive. I think it's because the NEC is ATAPI 2.5 and NeXT supports only ATAPI 2.1. So get a different drive. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
From: grape@matrix.teuto.de (Timo Hoepfner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Drivers for 3COM EtherLink XL PCI under OpenStep 4.x for Intel Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:35:18 +0200 Organization: PoP teuto.net Bielefeld Message-ID: <19970524133518278301@[192.168.0.2]> References: <wireheadEAELtH.MGG@netcom.com> <5m5r35$cgq$1@news2.apple.com> Hello Scott! > > whole boatload of 3COM EtherLink XL PCI cards to run as our ethernet > These drivers are not yet available from Apple (though they should be > soon). Keep your eye on Apple Intel Beta Drivers web-page: > > http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/NABrowse?/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_Inf > ormation/Drivers/4.x_Drivers/Beta Any chance, that there will be a driver for the Etherlink III PCI (only 10Mbps) Combo card for NEXTSTEP 3.3 as well??? Would it be possible to use the Openstep 4.x driver with NEXTSTEP 3.3? Bye Timo --- Timo Hoepfner - grape@matrix.teuto.de
From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 24 May 1997 13:08:03 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <WEGMANN.97May24140804@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary for us to do: 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) Goal is all to make three OSes selectable at boot time, which is tricky because the NEXTSTEP system does (and could:-( )not reside on the first disk. NA #1487 guides you through this special adventure: install NS3.3 on the "outer disk" (at install time this was the first by plugging out the cable from the inner disk); afterwards change /etc/fstab to boot up from /dev/sd1a instead of /dev/sd0a and then install the miniroot partition on the primary disk. It contains the current driver configuration (System.config) and the information from where to boot the kernel. At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between NT and Win95. It's probably wise to install Win95 first and then NT (so did I) and at last to install the NEXTSTEP miniroot. And, yes, it won't be possible by using Micro$oft's fabulous fdisk which allows max. two partitions (BTW: read the BUGS section of the NEXTSTEP man page for fdisk ;-). If this seems the natural way to do for people I apologize for posting this, but OTOH I couldn't locate any advice for settings like these and maybe others are interested (or are forced) in setting up weird configurations such as the one above. Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
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From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SECOND HD ON NEXTSTEP3.3 Date: 24 May 1997 16:28:27 GMT Message-ID: <19970524162800.MAA02631@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5lucn7$9vf$1@news.univ-rennes1.fr> do a low level format of your scsi drive before you reload it UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: ptwareck@the-wire.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matsushita PD/CD drives with NS/OS ? Date: 24 May 1997 17:16:06 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> Has anyone successfully used the Matsushita Phasewrite drive flavour on NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? NeXTAnswers offers a disktab entry which is incorrect (somewhat), NeXT is useless in helping me out and Matsushita/Panasonic/Toray can't figure out what's wrong either. Any help would be greatly appreciated! -- Piotr Twarecki <ptwareck@the-wire.com> (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 23 May 1997 22:26:37 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5m5u6d$7qo@slip.net> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> Visit http://www.ipc.de and look for their product which lets you use UMAX scanners with NS/OS. That might help. e-
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How's this hardware setup for NX 3.3? Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 13:39:21 -0400 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.96.970524133632.3155D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Tony Chow <everblue@ucla.edu> In-Reply-To: <01bc67c9$7a459840$e0686180@test.ocga.ucla.edu> On 23 May 1997, Tony Chow wrote: > I have > > -IBM 6x86L PR-166 CPU Replace this with an Intel Pentium. The 6x86's have known problems under NEXTSTEP (crashing, mainly. OmniWeb will bring a 6x86 to it's knees every time). Everything else looks fine. -Isaac
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 24 May 1997 20:02:38 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2405971306340001@i492.oro.net> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> I finally just received the notice that the @Society Magazine Newsletter link has finally made it to the Yahoo! directory and should be useable in a week or so. Therefore, you will see much less on these newsgroups in terms of my messages. I was unaware that posting messages in each group was wrong. Therefore, from this date on, I will only post in the appropriate areas. The @Society WWW pages had just started about 3 to 4 weeks ago and I wanted to make sure folks here knew about it until my directory links went into effect. I had watched other companies selling NeXT product posting daily in multiple groups so I thought that was not a problem here as I did not see any posts saying halt up. Anyway, thank you for bearing with the numerous posts... TJ @Society Magazine
From: mark@127.0.0.1 (Mark Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Support for the ScanMaker E3 scanner on NEXTSTEP? Date: 24 May 1997 20:29:52 GMT Organization: Center for Space Research Message-ID: <slrn5oejt9.12h.mark@montague.netroplex.com> As I glanced though a local computer store advertisement, I noticed that MicroTek is selling an affordable flatbed scanner. It's the ScanMaker E3 and it has the following features: - single pass scanning - 24-bit color - 8-bit greyscale - 300x600 dpi optical resolution - 2400x2400dpi software resolution - retail price of $199 I've checked the NEXTSTEP archives and found ScanMaker.app (version 0.2) and was curious to know if anybody has the above configuration or might know if the current version of ScanMaker.app (or some other alternative software) has sufficient support for the E3 scanner. -- # mark miller
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tired of NO NeXT magazines.. Date: 24 May 1997 20:28:33 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2405971332280001@i492.oro.net> References: <tj-2005971655410001@i529.oro.net> <5lv9g6$1jg@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5m1lfc$ro5$2@news.th-darmstadt.de> <tj-2205971100180001@i536.oro.net> <5m226b$nti$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> <5m32fb$48f$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2305970933110001@i483.oro.net> <5m5206$qbg$1@news.digifix.com> <tj-2405971306340001@i492.oro.net> I also hope you see that we are trying to do a GOOD thing here. As you probably already know, starting a small venture like this is difficult and if along the way we do something different or wrong, it would be much nicer for you to say "it is OK that you post messages but please do it less often" or something like that rather than you do not think the product will fly becuase they post so much. That is why I though the comment was "interesting" becuase I would have put your message differently. I can understand now why I should not post in all the groups but as I mentioned, I saw many companies already doing this and I did not think it was wrong. We at @Society are very enthusiastic about our product and hope to fill a void of NeXT reading material. We see a bright future for all NeXT users and want to have FUN!!. Thank you for understanding, TJ @Society Magazine In article <tj-2405971306340001@i492.oro.net>, tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > I finally just received the notice that the @Society Magazine Newsletter > link has finally made it to the Yahoo! directory and should be useable in > a week or so. > > Therefore, you will see much less on these newsgroups in terms of my > messages. I was unaware that posting messages in each group was wrong. > Therefore, from this date on, I will only post in the appropriate areas. > > The @Society WWW pages had just started about 3 to 4 weeks ago and I > wanted to make sure folks here knew about it until my directory links went > into effect. I had watched other companies selling NeXT product posting > daily in multiple groups so I thought that was not a problem here as I did > not see any posts saying halt up. > > Anyway, thank you for bearing with the numerous posts... > > TJ > @Society Magazine
From: Antonios Kranidis <krania@bille.ppc.engga.uwo.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MEMORY Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 19:38:51 -0400 Organization: University of Western Ontario, London Message-ID: <33877C0B.41C6@bille.ppc.engga.uwo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I am using the internet I guess every keeps on being saved and after a little while my computer is out of memory. I have 32 megs of ram and over 2 gigs of hard drive. What can be done to fix this?? Please answer to akranidi@mustang.uwo.ca
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube faceplate Optical "plug" Date: Thu, 22 May 1997 17:31:14 -0400 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Message-ID: <msg67287.thr-2b7a8a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-ID: <msg67287.thr-2b7a8a.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> My cube came with a "plug" in one the optical drive openings. I recently = had the faceplate milled to support both a floppy and an internal CD driv= e, but when the faceplate came back they didn't return the "plug". I'd r= eally like to get one of these again to fill the hole since I spent money tomake it look good--I'd like to fin= ish the job! -- = David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: 24 May 1997 17:50:59 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5m79q3$1khk@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> >It's not ADB, but I believe it has the ROMs which would allow >it to be used with an ADB keyboard and mouse. If you know the ROM >version >necessary, let me know and I'll check. You would still need the ADB >sound >box. ADB requires EPROM version 74, an ADB y-cable, an ADB compatible monitor (72Hz vs 68Hz) and ADB soundbox. Its all in FAQ question 5.26. - Gareth -- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Date: 25 May 1997 03:57:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: "Mark Kushigian" <mkush@normac.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-Recordable (esp HP4020) Date: 25 May 1997 04:31:57 GMT Organization: Normac, Inc. Message-ID: <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> OpenStep doesn't seem to be able to use my HP 4020i CD-Recordable drive, although a Toshiba 3401 works fine. Anybody know any reason I shouldn't be able to use this drive (as a CD-ROM only)? Anybody successfully using ANY CD-Recordable as a CD-ROM on a Next/OpenStep system? Thanks... Mark Kushigian mkush@normac.com PS- please post as well as email responses.
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 25 May 1997 09:23:40 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. What I need to know is, is this problem due to something wrong on the printer (e.g. the fuser), or the toner cartridge, or what? One thing I can figure out is where the long felt pad bar goes in the printer. I seem to recall from having worked with an original NeXT LaserPrinter is that it went somewhere along the paper path; I can't find a place for it in the refurbished printer. Any clues will be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenberATmhpcc.edu <Replace "AT" with the "at" symbol; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 24 May 1997 16:01:11 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5m73c7$ip@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <WEGMANN.97May24140804@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Organisation: RRR Hello Frank, wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: [...] > 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: > > SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: > 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) > 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) > 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) > > SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: > 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) > 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) > [...] > At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide > to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the > latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between > NT and Win95. -- You can make it even more comfortable and add NEXTSTEP to the WindowsNT boot loader and remove the NEXTETEP booter. There is a little utillity on the net (bootpa20.zip) wich allows to to that. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
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From: peter marinac <peter@eline.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turning off b/w-NeXTStation's monitor? Date: Sat, 24 May 1997 22:33:09 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <3387CF15.FA465937@eline.com> References: <1997051911435482433@marconi.physik.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6" --------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Georg Schwarz wrote: > Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave > > the computer running to enable remote logins? > > -- > Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de > Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 > Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ no, but most slabs will boot without a monitor just fine. search the faqs, someone has a description of how to make a switch that connects to the umbilical cord port, which will allow you to turn the machine on at will. there is a command you can execute in a telnet session to turn off the machine. solution 2 is to turn the machine on with the monitor connected and then very carefully remove the monitor cable from the umbilical port. The machine will continue to run just fine. I don't think it is possible to reattach the cable without the machine turning off so do a shutdown with the unix command. --------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Georg Schwarz wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Is it possible to turn off a 68040-b/w-NeXTStation's monitor but leave <BR>the computer running to enable remote logins? <P>-- <BR>Georg Schwarz schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de <BR>Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254, FAX -21130 <BR>Technische Universität Berlin <A HREF="http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/">http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/</A></BLOCKQUOTE> no, but most slabs will boot without a monitor just fine. search the faqs, someone <BR>has a description of how to make a switch that connects to the umbilical cord port, <BR>which will allow you to turn the machine on at will. there is a command you <BR>can execute in a telnet session to turn off the machine. <P>solution 2 is to turn the machine on with the monitor connected and then very <BR>carefully remove the monitor cable from the umbilical port. The machine <BR>will continue to run just fine. I don't think it is possible to reattach the cable <BR>without the machine turning off so do a shutdown with the unix command. <BR> <BR> <BR></HTML> --------------4CFC1621E0EADC9A4F0A3ED6--
From: nextkane@nuri.net (ChangJun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help : Station Color Turbo and 1.2G Quantum and Plextor 8x Date: 25 May 1997 16:41:03 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5m9q2v$rj8$1@news.nuri.net> I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please.
From: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matsushita PD/CD drives with NS/OS ? Date: 25 May 1997 16:52:18 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <5m9qo2$62v@news.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by MimeKit/1.7) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Cc: ptwareck@the-wire.com Hi. In <5m77om$j6r$1@news.the-wire.com> ptwareck@the-wire.com wrote: > Has anyone successfully used the Matsushita Phasewrite drive flavour on > NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP? NeXTAnswers offers a disktab entry which is incorrect > (somewhat), NeXT is useless in helping me out and Matsushita/Panasonic/Toray I am using "MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A109" on NEXTSTEP 3.3J and OPENSTEP4.1J on my Intel machine. Following is the disktab I am using. (From NeXTAnswers) # PD/CD # pd-1|PD-1|MATSHITA PD-1 LF-1000 A:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#1632:nt#15:ns#53:ss#1024:rm#2026:\ :fp#256:bp#256:ng#154:gs#1600:ga#16:ao#784:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#80:z1#168:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#618510:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#8:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: I have tried only NeXT formatted disks. I've no experience with DOS nor Macintosh formatted disks. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: FAQ for this newsgroup Message-ID: <EAqtCp.5Ds@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:22:01 GMT In article <19970517034900.XAA25030@ladder02.news.aol.com> nexnet1996@aol.com (NEXNET1996) writes: > Can someone send me the FAQ for this newsgroup, I cannot find it > anywhere. That might be a bit too much for a simple E-mail ;-) Did you try Peanuts <peanuts.leo.org>? No? That's a shame! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Singleusermode booten bei Motorola HW Message-ID: <EAqu1D.5EJ@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:36:49 GMT In article <5m15b0$b8d$4@oxygen.technet.net> fh@energotec.de writes: > hi, > > kann mir einer sagen, wie ich bei schwarzer > Motorola Hardware im Singleuser Mode booten kann ?? > German newbie question in an English newsgroup? Neat thing! Press <Command-Command-~> to get to the boot prompt, then type 'bsd -s'. Druecke <Command-Command-~> (oder <Command-Command-"my"> auf der Deutschen Tastatur) und dann tip 'bsd -s' und los geht's. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Stupid printer question Message-ID: <EAquGw.5F9@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <mitchell.allen-2005972002460001@14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:46:08 GMT In article <mitchell.allen-2005972002460001@14.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net writes: > OK, I know this is stupid, but I have never seen a NeXT laserprinter > before. I just bought two of them brand new. I took one out, unpacked > it, set it up (much easier than on a Mac) and looked for the power > switch. There is no power switch. I know it works because I printed > with it. > > Question is: is there a way to turn it off or is it normally off until > it gets a signal to print? If the latter is the case, how do they get > the fuser to heat up so quickly? It takes virtually no time, click to > chunk. Like on all NeXT hardware the power is controlled by software. But unless the computers it has no self adjusting power supply (Some Europeans fried the printers they imported from the USA by not changing the line voltage). Normally the printer is in standby mode. From time to time the fuser is heated to provide this instantaneous print cabability (You can hear the periodic humm). If you want to switch it off you have to type 'nppower off' in a Terminal.app window. There are several small utilities on the net to do this automatically (Saves a considerable amount of power. Though the printer needs a warmup period aferwards). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help : Color Turbo with 1.2G Quantum... Date: 25 May 1997 19:20:05 GMT Message-ID: <19970525192001.PAA08354@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <5m9qgk$rm9$1@news.nuri.net> HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please. scsi id 0= all pins out a2 a1 a0 fro all others go to www.seagate.com or plextor.com UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 15:29:49 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 23-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > > I just purchased a Seagate Cheeta 4.5Gb Wide SCSI drive and I > > would like to install it as my boot drive. I'd like to partition > > it something like this > > sd0a partition 2Gb sd1a partition .5Gb > > (for swap space) 2GB dos partition > > This is NOT wise. If you make another partition the swap drive, > it will THRASH the drive. i.e. as you read some files in partition > a, and a pge swap occurs in partition b, the head of the drive will > have to leave partition a, travel to partition b, then go back to > partition a. You will get a net performance decrease. If you want > to gain performance, you need a seperate drive for swapping, not > a seperate partition. John, I know you've convinced yourself that partitioning a drive for swapspace decreases performance, but that doesn't actually make it true. There's an entire chapter in the O'Reilly "Unix System Performance Tuning" (may not be the exact title, but close) book on how to partition drives correctly. You'd find it good reading.... In general, you want to have where the swap area is located to be near the middle of the drive cylinders, and you want to have actively-used files/partitions on either side of the swap area. Such an arrangement results in higher performance compared to not partitioning the drive, both from experimental testing, and from a theoretical standpoint (compare full-disk seek times to half-stroke seek times, and consider the impact of IO request scheduling algorithms like elevator seeking). Given a 4.5 MB drive and what the original poster wants to do, I'd probably partition the drive as follows: sd0a -- 400 MB to 750 MB (for the operating system, depending on whether Developer is going to be installed) sd0b -- 250 MB (swap partition) sd0c -- 1.x GB, for NEXTSTEP user space (and /LocalApps, etc) sd0d -- 2 GB for DOS I'd create a ~240 MB swapfile in sd0b using mkfile which would be the primary swapfile (set the low and hi water marks appropriately), and I'd create a secondary swapfile 0 bytes in size on sd0a in case the primary ever fills up. Also, you can blow away sd0a and re-mkfs it when upgrading to a new version of the system, which is convenient. Some of the other advantages of having a seperate swap partition is that you can newfs/mkfs the filesystem more appropriately for what you're doing (reduce the number of inodes and cylinder groups). Also, such a swap partition is not going to have the swap file as fragmented as it would be if it were created on a partition which held lots of other files (say on the main root partition holding the system). The reason for that is because the FFS wants to store files in empty cylinder groups before completely filling up all of the blocks in partially-used cylinder groups (this relates to MINFREE, the 10% or so disk space reserved to help avoid fragmentation)-- since leaving some empty space allows files to grow in size without having to fragment themselves (or not too badly, anyway). -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 25 May 1997 20:55:46 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > John, I know you've convinced yourself that partitioning a drive > for swapspace decreases performance, but that doesn't actually > make it true. > There's an entire chapter in the O'Reilly "Unix System Performance > Tuning" (may not be the exact title, but close) book on how to > partition drives correctly. You'd find it good reading.... So the way I unders stand it: 1) The partitions are physically seperated. e.g. partition a would be the inner portion (wheel) of the drive, and partition b would be the outer. If the swap is in the outer portion, and the regular system is in the inner, a demand to swap while reading info on the outer would force the head way out to the outer. 2) The partitions are striped "interlaced" so that a seek would not not be necessarily further from any system file to the swap portion. However, that "interlacing" makes the swap file non contiguous physically and thereby reduces performance. Even in your example of putting the swap in the middle... Look at would "could happen" in case 1. If it's a large drive, say only 600megs of the first 2gig partition is used, and 1.5Gb of the third. Then if there's a swap request, and the head is in the first partition, it might have to travel over a good bit of space to get to the middle, and the same if from the 3rd. Whereas if it was one partition, then it's equally likely it would be closer, at least mathematically, than with the partitions. I.E. it would only be dealing with traversing 2.1Gb of data instead of 4Gb (assuming a 4Gb drive). In the second case, if the partitions are NOT physically seperate and are "interlaced" then the swap file is NOT contiguous and that is reducing performance. It's an either or situation (as far as I can tell). If I got it wrong, could you please let me know where the performance boost lies? What are the other alternatives that make partitioning for swap space and system access just as fast as having a single unpartitioned drive (obviously a seperate drive will always be better than either of the former possibilities). -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ROM commands? Date: 25 May 1997 20:30:52 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <5ma7hs$hqn@news.bu.edu> References: <3373BE44.63EA@lei.com> <EA0Hx5.2Cn@nidat.sub.org> : > Is there documentation on what commands are available to you while your : > are in ROM on a turbo color slab? I have picked up a few, but would : > like to have more information. The article "Power On" by Wayde Schroder is very helpful about theRoom monitor. See NextAnswers #1085.
From: charris@bu.edu (Catherine Harris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Odd power on/off problem Date: 25 May 1997 20:44:44 GMT Organization: Boston University Message-ID: <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came down with this problem: The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I can work as normal. But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without me every hitting the power on key). Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) Thoughts, advice welcome... -Cathy =========== Catherine Harris, Assistant Professor, Department of Psychology, Boston University, 64 Cummington St., Boston, MA 02215 (617) 353-2956 http://web.bu.edu/PSYCH/faculty/charris/ charris@bu.edu fax: 353-6933
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 25 May 1997 22:53:15 GMT Message-ID: <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. There are video cards which are designed to support more than one monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
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From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD-Recordable (esp HP4020) Date: 26 May 1997 00:36:01 GMT Organization: Dental Records (R) Message-ID: <5malth$26r@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> Cc: mkush@normac.com In <01bc68c3$ba6f9ec0$de01000a@erzerum> "Mark Kushigian" wrote: > OpenStep doesn't seem to be able to use my HP 4020i CD-Recordable drive, > although a Toshiba 3401 works fine. Anybody know any reason I shouldn't > be able to use this drive (as a CD-ROM only)? Anybody successfully > using ANY CD-Recordable as a CD-ROM on a Next/OpenStep system? > > Thanks... > > Mark Kushigian > mkush@normac.com > > PS- please post as well as email responses. > talk to these people. They have software for CD-R called CDDesigner. from private e-mail dated 14 MAR 97, "we have tested the CDDesigner with SCSI-controllers by Adaptec and NCR, but it should run with any controller. Only some combinations of controllers and cd-writers do not work (e.g.) Adaptec/Yamaha." Carsten Gehle (GehleSoftware@t-online.de) GSCorp also has software for CD-R called ExtraCD. Don't have their URL handy... -- Rick Sanford Dental Records(R) dental@precipice.com NeXTMAIL welcome http://www.dentalrecords.com
From: nextkane@nuri.net (ChangJun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help : Color Turbo with 1.2G Quantum... Date: 25 May 1997 16:48:20 GMT Organization: HanNuri Internet Service Message-ID: <5m9qgk$rm9$1@news.nuri.net> I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are | | | | | A2 A1 A0 TE PK I don't know How to set it. Help me, please. Thanks
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher borden) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 02:52:03 GMT Organization: cdb graphics Message-ID: <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> Cc: willadams@aol.com In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. > > There are video cards which are designed to support more than one > monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have > to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... > > Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? > > William > > > William Adams > > {{\xurl http://members.aol.com/willadams > }<} > http://members.aol.com/willadams > Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. > i think bifrost workstations offers a video card which will drive multiple monitors. www.bifrostworks.com/ chris
From: steve_sullivan@hotmail.com (steve) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 26 May 1997 05:02:19 GMT Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Message-ID: <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! > > Its finally here Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > http://www.deadfrog.net/infonow > > We need distributors in the US and Canada!!!!!! You need to take the lies off your web page saying you are the first to have wireless internet access!!
From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "No disk can be used to install OpenStep" Date: Sun, 25 May 1997 23:23:44 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <chad-2505972323440001@sverige.pengar.com> HI All I am trying to install OpenStep Mach 4.1 (not the WWDC stuff) on a machine that has an IDE/ATAPI CDROM and an Adaptec 2940AU with Quantum Fireball ST 3 gig drive (the new 5400 rpm Fireball). (I previously installed OpenStep on a machine that had an IDE disk and CDROM ok) In the system BIOS all the IDE drives are marked "none" The SCSI disk is set to ID6 and on the Adaptec ID 6 is set to bootable and the Host Bios is turned on. At system boot time before any disks boot the Adaptec boots and "loads" the Quantum as drive C: The system bios says to boot: C,A,SCSI (have tried A,C,SCSI and SCSI,A,C as well) During installation: I tell it I have an EIDE/ATAPI device for the CDROM. I tell it I have an Adaptec 2940 for the hard drive. I tell it to continue: It starts the unix boot and it finds the CDROM. It finds the hard disk and correctly identifies it. It mounts the CDROM as the root readonly and then it continues. Then it says " The startup disk for this computer is: OPENSTEP cannot be installed on any hard disks on this computer. You need a 512 byte/sector hard disk with at least 120MB free to install OPENSTEP. Shutting down (Messages are paraphrased) " . What do I do? I have a hard disk that the system has found and correctly identified. The system bios has this disk as the system startup disk. OPENSTEP is confused? Thanks Chad
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 08:12:58 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> In-Reply-To: <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> On 05/25/97, christopher borden wrote: >In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: >> This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as well. >> >> There are video cards which are designed to support more than one >> monitor--one product name was "Quadzilla" as I recall--but one would have >> to find one with an OPENSTEP driver... >> >> Why not get a Cube and a couple of NeXTDimension boards? >> >> William >> >> >> William Adams >> >> {{\xurl http://members.aol.com/willadams >> }<} >> http://members.aol.com/willadams >> Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. >> > > >i think bifrost workstations offers a video card which will drive multiple >monitors. > >www.bifrostworks.com/ > >chris If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers which support multi-headed displays. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 26 May 1997 09:32:38 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <WEGMANN.97May26103238@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary for us to do: 2 SCSI hard disks set up as follows: SCSI ID 0 w/three partitions: 16 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3 miniroot) 500 MB NTFS partition (for Windows NT 4.0) 500 MB Pri DOS partition (for Windows 95) SCSI ID 1 w/two partitions: 1000 MB NEXTSTEP (for NEXTSTEP 3.3) 1000 MB Ext DOS partition (for HD recording of audio data) Goal is all to make three OSes selectable at boot time, which is tricky because the NEXTSTEP system does (and could:-( )not reside on the first disk. NA #1487 guides you through this special adventure: install NS3.3 on the "outer disk" (at install time this was the first by plugging out the cable from the inner disk); afterwards change /etc/fstab to boot up from /dev/sd1a instead of /dev/sd0a and then install the miniroot partition on the primary disk. It contains the current driver configuration (System.config) and the information from where to boot the kernel. At startup, the usual NEXT dual boot turns up, where you can decide to boot up NEXTSTEP (from the second disk) or to boot DOS. In the latter case, the NT boot loader comes up and you may decide between NT and Win95. It's probably wise to install Win95 first and then NT (so did I) and at last to install the NEXTSTEP miniroot. And, yes, it won't be possible by using Micro$oft's fabulous fdisk which allows max. two partitions (BTW: read the BUGS section of the NEXTSTEP man page for fdisk ;-). If this seems the natural way to do for people I apologize for posting this, but OTOH I couldn't locate any advice for settings like these and maybe others are interested (or are forced) in setting up weird configurations such as the one above. Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Horizontal scan rate of NeXT monitors ??? Date: 22 May 1997 20:01:38 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5m28n2$qhr$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone know this? i know the vertical refresh rate is 68hz. and the res is 1152 X 856 what is the khz of the horiz. ?
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help : Station Color Turbo and 1.2G Quantum and Plextor 8x Date: 26 May 1997 14:06:51 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5mc5dr$5qk$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5m9q2v$rj8$1@news.nuri.net> ChangJun Kim (nextkane@nuri.net) wrote: > I purchased Color Turbo on last week but I can't build NS 3.3J with > 1.2G Quantum Fireball and Plextor 8x cd-rom. > CD-Rom SCSI ID : 3 > HDD SCSI ID : ? Jumpers are > | | | | | > A2 A1 A0 TE PK I recommend setting the internal SCSI id to 1. This leaves all other ids above 1 free, but you can still do an "emergency" type boot off an external device by setting its SCSI to 0. In order tu jumper your disk to SCSI 1, put a jumper on A0, and no jumpers on A1 and A2. The TE jumper is "Enable Termination" if memory serves me right, don't know about PK. An internal drive should be terminated (it's only one drive since the station can only host one SCSI drive. Yeah, I know, you can remove the floppy..). Set the CDROM to SCSI 0 to install, after installation, I recommend using SCSI id 6, as this is a common practice. BTW, Quantum document their jumper settings on www.quantum.com. You might want to use their search facility to find your disk type. Hope this helps, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Message from "caesar@cyberdude.com" concerning ND Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:09:33 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Message-ID: <3389FC0D.393D@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please disregard this address; it should be m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl Someone messed with my preferences folder, sorry about that! Maurice the ROM monitor says it sees the board (4 M DRAM by the way). Then everything hangs and booting stops. Anyone know what causes this and how to solve it? Thanks Maurice
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextDimension trouble Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 14:52:58 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Message-ID: <338A063A.6A3@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sorry about the fuss. I had a question about ND board problems. I have a 040 Cube with a ND board (4 Meg DRAM). When I attach my 21"MeagPixel display everything works fine up to the point where ther ROM monitor reports seeing the board. Then booting stops completely and I have to unplug. Anyone knows the source of this problem? Should I disconnect the 17" B/W monitor from the motherboard? Thanks Maurice
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: On black ... Put a 33mhz chip into a 68040/25mhz board ? Date: 26 May 1997 09:48:02 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5mces2$rrl@slip.net> Hi, Is it possible to upgrade a 040/25 machine to 040/33 by replacing the 25mhz chip? Is it possible if the chip and something else are upgraded as well? Thanks, Emmett
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 13:36:19 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > So the way I unders stand it: > > 1) The partitions are physically seperated. e.g. partition a would > be the inner portion (wheel) of the drive, and partition b would > be the outer. If the swap is in the outer portion, and the regular > system is in the inner, a demand to swap while reading info on the > outer would force the head way out to the outer. But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and c being either user space or the rest of the system. Case 1 is the most common arrangement with normal drives. > 2) The partitions are striped "interlaced" so that a seek would > not not be necessarily further from any system file to the swap > portion. However, that "interlacing" makes the swap file non > contiguous physically and thereby reduces performance. Right. Such a case might happen on an IDE drive due to the bizzare way sectors have to be remapped by lying about the real drive geometry due to BIOS limitations. > Even in your example of putting the swap in the middle... Look at > would "could happen" in case 1. If it's a large drive, say only > 600megs of the first 2gig partition is used, and 1.5Gb of the third. > Then if there's a swap request, and the head is in the first > partition, it might have to travel over a good bit of space to get > to the middle, and the same if from the 3rd. Whereas if it was > one partition, then it's equally likely it would be closer, at > least mathematically, than with the partitions. It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross a fiarly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter where you put the swap area. The time required to perform an IO request involves the sum of the seek time to the initial track, reading the data, plus any track-to-track motion (exaberated if the file is highly fragmented), plus overhead imposed by and within the OS. Given the arrangement of partitions I've defined above, the average distance required to reach the swap area is going to be D/4, where D is the total distance between the inner and outer cylinders. If you don't partition, the average distance to reach the swap area is going to be D/2. [ This is modulo many assumptions, but it's a reasonable model for the purpose of discussion. ] Using a dedicated partition for swapping reduces swapfile fragmentation to the best it can possibly be, which means that you also minimize the amount of track-to-track motion within the IO request due to file fragmentation. If you didn't have a seperate swap partition, the swap file is going to be more fragmented, which means more time spent moving track-to-track. > In the second case, if the partitions are NOT physically seperate > and are "interlaced" then the swap file is NOT contiguous and that > is reducing performance. It's an either or situation (as far as > I can tell). If I got it wrong, could you please let me know where > the performance boost lies? In the case of an interlaced drive, usually it's interlaced on a cylinder-by-cylinder basis. The initial seek times are going to be completely equivalent, but using a seperate swap partition is still going to reduce fragmentation within each cylinder because you've ensured that all sectors within a cylinder are going to belong to the swap area, which would not be the case if you didn't partition. Again, partitioning for the swap area can help performance. > What are the other alternatives that make partitioning for swap space and > system access just as fast as having a single unpartitioned drive > (obviously a seperate drive will always be better than either of the > former possibilities). Yes, a seperate drive is going to be better because you can do IO in parallel, and because you've got two sets of head assemblies to work with, which means that you win due to the probable locality of reference for swapfile accesses. I think I've answered the other part of your question above. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: On black ... Put a 33mhz chip into a 68040/25mhz board ? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 15:28:27 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <UnWSFPa00Uzx82AG59@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5mces2$rrl@slip.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-May-97 On black ... Put a 33mhz ch.. by Emmett McLean@slip.net > Is it possible to upgrade a 040/25 machine to > 040/33 by replacing the 25mhz chip? > > Is it possible if the chip and something else > are upgraded as well? No; what you're talking about is largely possible only with Intel PC hardware. For a black NeXT, many things besides just the CPU depends on the system timing, including the memory system, probably video memory, DMA, etc, etc. You'd have to swap the entire motherboard. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: aks@athens (Allan Schougaard) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? Date: 26 May 1997 20:26:28 GMT Organization: Pioneer Global Message-ID: <5mcrlk$8ml@wizard.pn.com> References: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> In <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Christopher Wolf wrote: > On 05/25/97, christopher borden wrote: > >In <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> WillAdams wrote: > >> This is a difficulty with the Intel hardware, and I guess drivers as > well. > >> > If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a > pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, > fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers > which support multi-headed displays. > > - Chris ELSA WINNER 2000PRO/X is also a possibility... and they look better esp. at hi resolutions. --Allan
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 26 May 1997 23:27:39 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition > in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, > a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and > c being either user space or the rest of the system. Well, first, this breaks down in the case of a system with two partitions (like mine :) because in that situation you WILL have the head going over some dead space to get to the swap all the time... > It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under > enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of > work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a > lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve > both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. > In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross > a fiarly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter > where you put the swap area. Hmmm, that's true... My setup is two partitions (which might be a worst case scenario!) and typically you can almost FEEL the darn heads being moved away to get to swap... However, one point to make...if the drive is REALLY big... Let's say 9 gigs, and you have 3 partitons: a being 4gb for system, b being 1gb for swap, and c being 4gb for files/apps... Let's say you only have 1gb of data on both partitions a and c. Then the heads will have to travel over more space than had the person made a single partition with all 3gb's of data situated more tightly together...no? See what I mean... |aa-aaa-aa----------------|bbbbbbbb|cc-ccc-cc--------------| |-----------max head seek distance----------| vs. |a-c-aa-c-a-c-ac-bbbbbb-a-c-a-cc-b-b-----------------------| |---------max h.seek distance------| When there is LOTs of free space, on average the heads might travel less in the single partition situation... Especially when the system has to access BOTH system (a partition) and files/apps (c partition) info... In that case, I may have reduced my max seek distance, and thereby also reduced my avg seek, no? When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you say is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system is guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if the system uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions a & c), then it's still going to thrash something silly. And in practice, I think both system and user files are accessed quite often...so even if swap isn't at issue, you still take a hit with system and user files/apps. Anyway, sorry if I'm being daft and frustrating you. It's truly based on my ignorance and I'm trying hard to "get it straight." -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 22:22:49 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <chad-2605972222490001@sverige.pengar.com> I have a system with an IBM P200+ up with an SiS based MB but it seems to not always behave well. But I don'w know if it is the chip or maybe a screwup in the SW I have installed. When I try and launch OmniWeb2 the machine freezes (totally). Any soft restart and the Adaptec SCSI device is missed. If I hard reset the machine then it is OK. I have Apache and WebObjects running OK it seems. OpenStep Mach 4.2 (WWDC release) with EOF 2.0 from my 4.1 disks Anyone running a Cyrix based chip with OpenStep? thanks Chad
From: chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: Mon, 26 May 1997 23:50:06 -0600 Organization: Pengar Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <chad-2605972350060001@sverige.pengar.com> References: <chad-2605972222490001@sverige.pengar.com> In article <chad-2605972222490001@sverige.pengar.com>, chad@pengar.com (Chad Leigh) wrote: > I have a system with an IBM P200+ up with an SiS based MB but it seems to > not always behave well. But I don'w know if it is the chip or maybe a > screwup in the SW I have installed. > > > When I try and launch OmniWeb2 the machine freezes (totally). > > Any soft restart and the Adaptec SCSI device is missed. If I hard reset > the machine then it is OK. > > > I have Apache and WebObjects running OK it seems. > > OpenStep Mach 4.2 (WWDC release) with EOF 2.0 from my 4.1 disks > > Anyone running a Cyrix based chip with OpenStep? > > thanks > Chad To reply to my own posting: It seems that the Cyrix chips WON'T run OpenStep -- at least not in my configuration. Replacing the P200+ chip with an AMD PR133 chip in the same PC with everything else the same (same MB, same boards, etc -- just swap CPUs) and the freezing up with OmniWeb2 stops and everything seems to run fine. Put the P200 back in (even running slower as a P166) and again OmniWeb2 freezes the entire machine! Put the AMD back in and things seem to be kosher. Chad
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: which Pentium-II motherboards supported by Openstep Date: 27 May 1997 06:13:48 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5mdu2s$6kb$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Are the ASUS KN97-X and the Intel PD440FX motherboards Openstep compatible? Both are Pentium-II PCI motherboards based on the 440FX (Natoma) chipset. They seem to be the 2 common motherboards for single-CPU Pentium-II PCs running Linux, so I figure they are probably compatible with most PC Unixes. Any reason to choose one over the other? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "tommy hwang" <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 27 May 1997 07:23:25 GMT Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> References: <WEGMANN.97May26103238@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Frank Wegmann <wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> wrote in article <WEGMANN.97May26103238@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>... > While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that matter) > along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware of > installations like the following, which was unfortunately necessary > for us to do: The quickest and most easily managable way is to get a product called "System Commander". I use it in my Notebook for field tech support to switch between DOS/Win16/OS2/Win95/NeXT3.3/Solaris2.5.1 and it works like a charm. -ME
From: Maurice van Steensel <m.vansteensel@antrg.azn.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT dimension again Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:26:58 -0700 Organization: University Hospital Nijmegen dept of Human Genetics Message-ID: <338B2772.2AAB@antrg.azn.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Having trouble with ND board. I have a 040 Cube w/ dimensions board and a 21" MegaPixel display. With this display and the 17" monochrome attached the cube boots fine up to the point where it sees the dimesions board. It then reports 4 M of DRAM and stops booting altogether. Anyone have an idea what causes this? Thanks for all help. Maurice
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HOWTO: NS3.3/WinNT4/Win95 spread over two disks Date: 27 May 1997 09:11:14 GMT Organization: WolfWare Message-ID: <5me8fi$8ja$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> References: <WEGMANN.97May26103238@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> In-Reply-To: <01bc6a6f$2527a300$0f02000a@default> On 05/26/97, "tommy hwang" wrote: > > >Frank Wegmann <wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> >wrote in article ><WEGMANN.97May26103238@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>... >> While I heard of people installing NS3.3 (or OPENSTEP for that >matter) >> along with one of those crappy Micro$oft systems, I'm not aware >of >> installations like the following, which was unfortunately >necessary >> for us to do: > > The quickest and most easily managable way is to get a product >called "System Commander". I use it in my Notebook for field tech >support to switch between DOS/Win16/OS2/Win95/NeXT3.3/Solaris2.5.1 >and it works like a charm. > > -ME System Commander version 2.5 worked like a charm with NeXTSTEP 3.3 but munged my OpenStep/Mach boot partition beyond any hope of recovery. I know of at least one other person who experienced the same thing. System Commander is now up to version 3 (at least) and maybe that version deals with OpenStep partitions better but consider yourself warned. If you want to have your OpenStep root partition on a different disk from you other OS boot partitions there is a NeXTAnswer which addressed how to make a minimal 7 MB OpenStep boot partition on one disk which will then transfer control to the standard root partition on another different disk. I have set up a couple of systems this way and it does work although it can be a hassle to maintain since some system configuration files now need to be maintained in two places. - Chris -- _______________________________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf -- WolfWare -- NeXTSTEP/OpenStep/Rhapsody Developer For info about NewsFlash the lightning fast NeXTSTEP news-reader visit our newly revised web site at: http://www.wolfware.com _______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: liu@emerald.physics (Wei Liu) Subject: Install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on 3 GB large disk? Message-ID: <EAtosB.8wr@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Organization: University of Toronto - Dept. of Physics Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 04:36:11 GMT Hi, there: Anyone has such experience in installing NEXTSTEP OS 3.2 on a large SCSI disk bigger than 2GB? I know both /etc/disk and DiskBuilder have problem with that. And the CDROM installation won't help either. Following one of NEXTanswers on this issue, I was able to partition and initialize it by creating a disktab entry. Although it behaves all right as a file system, it seems it can't be booted even I moved every system file to this disk and wrote the /usr/standalone/boot into the boot sector. It just hangs ri ght after saying "root on sd0". Sometimes it even says no SCSI disk attached. Your help is greatly appreciated!! Wei
From: toth.22@osu.edu (chris) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,oh.forsale,cmh.forsale Subject: NextStation Forsale $250 OBO Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:35:36 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <338af04e.935893189@news-stand.acs.ohio-state.edu> NextStation Slab with Next Grayscale display 8mb ram 68040 cpu no hdd keyboard and mouse all cables $250 OBO Chris Toth Columbus, Ohio toth.22@osu.edu of DRAM and stops > booting altogether. Anyone have an idea what causes this? Thanks > for all help. I think the Dimension needs at least 8mb of dram to boot...and at least 24 to run comfortably. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 11:07:09 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net >> But read what I said again-- you want to have the swap partition >> in the middle of the drive surrounded by active partitions. Ie, >> a being the system (or system mini-root), b being the swap, and >> c being either user space or the rest of the system. > > Well, first, this breaks down in the case of a system with two > partitions (like mine :) because in that situation you WILL have > the head going over some dead space to get to the swap all the > time... Yes, it does. There are lots of ways of partitioning your drives which decrease performance, and only having two partitions is one of them for precisely the reasons you've described. [ ...I wanted to snip some of the following, but there's no good place to do so... ] >> It doesn't work out that way in practice, John. A system under >> enough load to be swapping is obviously doing a fair amount of >> work, or is completely RAM-starved (or both). If it's doing a >> lot of work, it's virtually certain that the IO requests involve >> both files from the system and /tmp, and user files or applications. >> In other words, the drive heads are going to be moving accross >> a fairly wide range of cylinders just for user-side IO no matter >> where you put the swap area. > > Hmmm, that's true... My setup is two partitions (which might be > a worst case scenario!) and typically you can almost FEEL the darn > heads being moved away to get to swap... However, one point to > make...if the drive is REALLY big... Let's say 9 gigs, and you > have 3 partitons: a being 4gb for system, b being 1gb for swap, > and c being 4gb for files/apps... Let's say you only have 1gb of > data on both partitions a and c. Then the heads will have to travel > over more space than had the person made a single partition with > all 3gb's of data situated more tightly together...no? > > See what I mean... > > |aa-aaa-aa----------------|bbbbbbbb|cc-ccc-cc--------------| > > |-----------max head seek distance----------| > > vs. > > |a-c-aa-c-a-c-ac-bbbbbb-a-c-a-cc-b-b-----------------------| > > |---------max h.seek distance------| Yes, you're absolutely correct that partitioning the drives in the way you describe would decrease performance. However (and this however is an essential distinction), you aren't supposed to randomly partition drives with arbitrary sizes. You're supposed to consider the actual space requirements, and size the partitions accordingly. That's why OS vendors which encourage use of and/or ship systems with pre-partitioned drives (Sun comes to mind), generally break the OS itself into a bootable miniroot that's guaranteed to fit in 16-32 MB, so you can break up your boot drive into at least three partitions (miniroot, swap, and the rest of the OS including X or whatever windowing system) which is a situation where the IO load is pretty much guaranteed to be distributed. They generally provide disk configuration utilities to aid in partition-size calculations.... > When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you say > is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system is > guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if the system > uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions a & c), then > it's still going to thrash something silly. TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user files, you've got X GB worth of cylinders to move the heads across no matter what you do. However, there tends to be patterns of IO requests due to the fact that you generally swap when starting up a new process or resuming an swapped out one (ie, by reading in the executable pages from disk), and that there tends to be regular IO to /tmp and to user files for storing documents and program output after the executable pages are read in. Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions should be and have too much unused space. > And in practice, I think both system and user files are accessed quite > often... That's certainly true. > so even if swap isn't at issue, you still take a hit with system and > user files/apps. Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can still help even ignoring swap since you tend to have the system files filling up most of the root partition, with enough free space left for /tmp, corefiles, log files, mail spools, and so forth...which tends to be fairly self-contained, and the user space, which gets used however. Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately for the intended usage of the partition. > Anyway, sorry if I'm being daft and frustrating you. It's truly > based on my ignorance and I'm trying hard to "get it straight." No need to apologize to me; I make mistakes too. And it's infinitely better to have a reasonable conversation with someone who's honestly trying to understand a topic rather than arguing with people who refuse to listen or consider other points of view (which is half of .advocacy, unfortunately). You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt performance. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 16:03:29 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > John Kheit said: > > When the drive gets more and more full, then I think what you > > say is true when a lot of swapping takes place, b/c the system > > is guaranteed to find the swap in the middle. But note, if > > the system uses both system and files more often (i.e. partitions > > a & c), then it's still going to thrash something silly. > TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? > files, you've got X GB worth of cylinders to move the heads across > no matter what you do. > Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves > performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions > should be and have too much unused space. Aha! I see now...ok. So on a a 4Gb drive one might do the following... Partition a is 450Mb for OPENSTEP, partition b is swap and say 550Mb, partition c is 1.5Gb for apps, and partition d is 1.5Gb for User stuff? See, the problem is that one will have about 3+gb's left over for user/apps stuff, and we have 2gb partition limits... So what will likely happen on partition's c and d is they will have lots of free space (unless you have a LOT of user files etc... Hmmm...which partition, if any, is it OK to keep a goodly amount of space free so performance won't take a hit? > Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can Ain't that the truth...seems like a real balancing act that may change w/ time as a user get's more stuff... > Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more > fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem > tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately > for the intended usage of the partition. Yea, but doesn't FFS pretty much keep that to a minimum (I don't think I've ever had more thean 0.7% percent fragmentation, and that was on a PACKED hard drive (almost no free space) that was used for a LONG LONG LONG time). And as for swap space fragmentation and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... > You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts > performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing > too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt > performance. I can see in certain situations it doesn't have to be an all out performance looser now... I guess I'll have to try it for myself to see if it is a genuine performance winner (as soon as I figure out how to arrange partitions with free space appropriately...) Thanks much for the info! :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.nospam (Christian Neuss) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix/IBM P+ chips for OpenStep? Date: 27 May 1997 15:46:06 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5mevju$ft$1@news.th-darmstadt.de> References: <chad-2605972222490001@sverige.pengar.com> <chad-2605972350060001@sverige.pengar.com> Chad Leigh (chad@pengar.com) wrote: > It seems that the Cyrix chips WON'T run OpenStep -- at least not in my > configuration. Replacing the P200+ chip with an AMD PR133 chip in the > same PC with everything else the same (same MB, same boards, etc -- just > swap CPUs) and the freezing up with OmniWeb2 stops and everything seems to > run fine. Put the P200 back in (even running slower as a P166) and again > OmniWeb2 freezes the entire machine! Put the AMD back in and things seem > to be kosher. This is from memory only, so beware.. I seem to remember that the Cyrix chip has a bug, which is triggered by OmniWeb 2.* (due to it's intensive use of threads). It's good to hear though that you have no problems with the AMD chip - after all, there may be at least one alternative to Intel Does anybody else have experiences with AMD chips and OS? Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.nexttoyou.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Message-ID: <338B130C.3C65@ultranet.ca> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 09:59:56 -0700 From: JOHN HILLS <a1b01050@ultranet.ca> Organization: J.Hills Radiology, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Two different video cards? References: <EAKyxK.85@tamtam.xs4all.nl> <19970525225300.SAA09924@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5matsj$8dc@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <5mbgma$ie7$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christopher Wolf wrote: > > If you want a multi-headed display on Intel hardware I'd recommend using a > pair of Matrox Millienium card. The Matrox cards are readily available, > fairly inexpensive, screamingly good performers and have NeXTSTEP drivers > which support multi-headed displays. > > - Chris > I have a vague recollection of a series of news articles re problems with Matrox Millenia under 3.3 a few weeks ago. Is my memory in need of parity? What about using the ELSA WINNER? (See ELSAWINNERMultipleDisplayDriver.pkg) John Hills jhills@ultranet.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension trouble Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAuKqp.nE0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:06:25 GMT References: <3389FAC8.2F31@antrg.azn.nl> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3389FAC8.2F31@antrg.azn.nl>, <caesar@cyberdude.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I have a dimensions board in my 040 Cube (NS 3.0). When I attach the >monitor (21" MegaPixel) to it everything goes fine up to the point where >the ROM monitor says it sees the board (4 M DRAM by the way). Then >everything hangs and booting stops. Anyone know what causes this and how >to solve it? > I believe the minimum amount of RAM for a Dimension is 8MB. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:26:09 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <QnWmR1C00UhBA6PkB5@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net >> TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user > ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch", R.A. Heinlein. >> Partitioning the drive to put the swapspace in the middle improves >> performance unless you've badly misjudged how big the partitions >> should be and have too much unused space. > > Aha! I see now...ok. So on a a 4Gb drive one might do the > following... Partition a is 450Mb for OPENSTEP, partition b is > swap and say 550Mb, partition c is 1.5Gb for apps, and partition > d is 1.5Gb for User stuff? 400-odd is plenty for a normal User install; you want more like 600-odd for a full Developer install, and that depends on how much logging and /tmp space you want available. If you've got space to burn, 750 is probably more than enough. I'd be fairly surprised if you filled up more than 100-200 MB worth of swap space, but again, if you've got disk space to blow, you can make swap bigger. That would leave around 3 GB or so, which I'd probably break into a 2 GB partition and a 1+ GB partition; use the first for everything active, and maybe use the second for rarely used stuff like .tar.gz archives, random images (GIF, TIFF, JPEG), backups of essential system files, and whatnot. > See, the problem is that one will have about 3+gb's left over for > user/apps stuff, and we have 2gb partition limits... Right. I tend to prefer smaller drives than 4 GB myself because you can take advantage of IO in parallel between multiple drives and the difference in cost economy isn't that great, and there's the performance gain. > So what will likely happen on partition's c and d is they will have > lots of free space (unless you have a LOT of user files etc... > Hmmm...which partition, if any, is it OK to keep a > goodly amount of space free so performance won't take a hit? The last one. Your active files are going to be in the first 3 partitions (or should be, anyway). >> Again, there ain't no free lunch. Partitioning the drive can > > Ain't that the truth...seems like a real balancing act that may > change w/ time as a user get's more stuff... Yes, or when the intended usage of the machine changes. Of course, if you've got a decent backup mechanism, it's no big deal, but it still takes time to reformat and reinstall. >> Having everything be on one partition tends to cause more >> fragmentation, and it prevents you from doing any kind of filesystem >> tuning to adjust the filesystem parameters more appropriately >> for the intended usage of the partition. > > Yea, but doesn't FFS pretty much keep that to a minimum (I don't > think I've ever had more thean 0.7% percent fragmentation, and that > was on a PACKED hard drive (almost no free space) that was used > for a LONG LONG LONG time). The FFS tries to reduce fragmentation by using cylinder groups and restricting the max number of blocks a file can use in a cylinder group (and gby keeping MINFREE reserved). In some sense, the FFS deliberately fragments very large files into medium-sized but contiguous pieces in order to avoid extreme fragmentation. I mentioned this in more detail earlier. > And as for swap space fragmentation > and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then > kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete the > old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, hiwat, > etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in essence get > the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... If I've followed you, yes, that's precisely what you want to do. >> You've clearly understood that partitioning a drive badly hurts >> performance quite noticably, but you make a mistake by generalizing >> too far and claiming that partitioning a drive will always hurt >> performance. > > I can see in certain situations it doesn't have to be an all out > performance looser now... I guess I'll have to try it for myself > to see if it is a genuine performance winner (as soon as I figure > out how to arrange partitions with free space appropriately...) > > Thanks much for the info! :) You're welcome. Tell you what, though-- if we ever run into each other at an expo or some such, you owe me a good beer. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 19:03:23 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5mfb5r$fgr$4@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <QnWmR1C00UhBA6PkB5@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP > with WIDE SCSI for.. by John Kheit@cnj.digex.net > > And as for swap space fragmentation > > and placement...one could fill the hard drive half way... then > > kick with another system, make a new 500mb swap file, delete > > the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with lowat, > > hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in > > essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the > > system... > If I've followed you, yes, that's precisely what you want to do. I meant NOT partitioning above. That one could use a single partition to achieve much the same as a multipartition setup.... In essence do what can be done with 3 partitions in only one...but from what you mentioned before...that FFS WILL break up a file into chunks...b/c of that, it's better to set up a middle partition with few inodes and just fill the sucker up with a single file that's going to be guaranteed to be contiguous.... Whereas, even making a huge file the same size in a single partition won't guarantee a contiguous file... Ok, I think I've got it (or at least as much as the mush in my head will allow :) > You're welcome. Tell you what, though-- if we ever run into each > other at an expo or some such, you owe me a good beer. :-) Sounds like a good deal to me :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: "Ben Martz" <nospam@nowhere.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: printer problem (not the same old one!) Date: 27 May 1997 19:00:18 GMT Organization: Various Organizations Message-ID: <01bc6ad0$6bd1e1b0$29fd6fc6@ben> I've read a lot about the problem with the 400dpi printer where the paper doesn't feed all the way through, but here's one that I haven't heard of =( I just bought a 400dpi printer and when I try printing anything the motor goes a little bit but the paper never feeds in even the slightest bit! Any ideas? Please send replies to benmartz at branch dot net. Thanks!
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 13:36:03 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> I set this only to csn.hardware... please folks, if you _Have_ to crossposts, please set the Followups-To line.... I've gotten a lot out of this thread myself, I don't mind that at all... it just didn't need to take place on both groups.. On 27 May 1997, John Kheit wrote: > Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > John Kheit said: > > > TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user > ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? I'm glad you asked... personally I think he made it up.... > And as for swap space fragmentation and placement...one could fill the > hard drive half way... then kick with another system, make a new 500mb > swap file, delete the old one (make the appropriate swaptab entries with > lowat, hiwat, etc) then install the rest of the user files...and in > essence get the swap file unfragmented in the middle of the system... Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been used since I booted this system' I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... TjL... who'd have to buy by the keg if he ever went to an expo ;-) -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help needed installing OpenStep 4.0 on Cube Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:32:59 -0400 Organization: Harvard Medical School Message-ID: <ibhan-2705971632590001@infobhan.med.harvard.edu> I have a NeXT Cube (25 Mhz '040) with a broken optical drive and no floppy running NeXTSTEP 2.1. I have OpenStep 4.0 CD's and an Apple CD300e CD-ROM drive hooked up to the cube. I tried the recommended procedure for booting off the CD-ROM (referring to the external CD-ROM as drive "2") but it did not work. Inserting the CD while logged in to NeXTSTEP 2.1 gives me an error message that the disk could not be read (though it can read PC CD-ROM's without difficulty). Can anyone help me? Thanks. -- Ishir Bhan ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 22:12:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been > used since I booted this system' > I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is > a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I been exceptionally lucky? > TjL... who'd have to buy by the keg if he ever went to an expo > ;-) Sounds like a sloshy good time :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 16:28:37 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527162511.11713A-100000@kira> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> > Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has been > > used since I booted this system' > > > I can't explain this as well as Charles, but lemme say that is > > a bad idea.. a big bad idea.... > > Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I been > exceptionally lucky? I'd think so... If you had used the swapfile since you booted, there could be something still paged to that swapfile.... if it tried to access it the system would freeze, I would think.... Either you've been lucky or I'm misunderstanding... TjL
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:02:25 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <YnWqU1y00UhB8=LAdS@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-May-97 Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI for.. by Timothy Luoma@peak.org > I set this only to csn.hardware... please folks, if you _Have_ to > crossposts, please set the Followups-To line.... > > I've gotten a lot out of this thread myself, I don't mind that at all... > it just didn't need to take place on both groups.. Excessive cross-posting is bad. Cross-posting to .advocacy or .misc and anything else is bad. Cross-posting to two newsgroups, both of which are appropriate, isn't bad. Oh, well...I guess we have a difference of opinion. >>> TANSTAAFL. If you've got X GB worth of system and data/user >> ^^^^^^^^^^is a new one on me :) What's it mean? > > I'm glad you asked... personally I think he made it up.... Would I do that? :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Cube 25 MHz expansion boards? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAuzCM.Kz1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 21:21:58 GMT References: <338AFBCE.12D0@127.0.0.1> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <338AFBCE.12D0@127.0.0.1>, Anonymous <webmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote: >Does anyone know if any processor expansion boards were ever produced >for the old 25MHz cube? I am the proud owner of one, yet the docs only >mention them briefly. > I'm not sure what you mean by "processor expansion" boards, but there were a few NeXTbus boards made. The NeXTdimension graphics/video board was the most common, Ariel (sp?) made a couple of boards (one with 5 DSP56001s, one with an i860 as I recall), there are those strange FORE Systems ATM boards...that's all I can think of at the moment. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: 27 May 1997 23:42:49 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527162511.11713A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: > > > Please tell me you don't mean 'delete the swapfile that has > > > been used since I booted this system' > > Hmmm, why? I've done it in the past w/o trouble... Have I > > been exceptionally lucky? > I'd think so... > If you had used the swapfile since you booted, there could be > something still paged to that swapfile.... if it tried to access > it the system would freeze, I would think.... > Either you've been lucky or I'm misunderstanding... I think you missed the part of the post where I said I'm booting up with another system disk. If I do that, then the swap file on the other drive is inactive and can be removed and replaced... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
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From: "Stanley" <sta82105@netvigator.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Display Card Problem???? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:26:17 +0800 Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5mg4uh$9lr@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Which Card are better of ET6000 or MGA Mystique??? What is the performance of that??? Is MGA Mystique only support his functions 3D Game??? What's different from Sony CD-ROM CDU-511 or CDU-571??? and which one are better??? Thanks you very much!!!!! Komuro sta82105@netvigator.com
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP with WIDE SCSI formatting of 4.5Gb drive Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:21:59 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527192107.4812B-100000@kira> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527162511.11713A-100000@kira> <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> In-Reply-To: <5mfrhp$o6b$1@news2.digex.net> > I think you missed the part of the post where I said I'm booting > up with another system disk. If I do that, then the swap file on > the other drive is inactive and can be removed and replaced... yes I thought you had been using this since you have booted the current time (current login) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: sjohnson@myriad.net (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.online-service.america-online,alt.online-service.compuserve,alt.online-service.freenet,alt.online-service.genie,alt.online-service.microsoft,alt.online-service.prodigy,biz.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hypercard,comp.sys.mac.portables,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,misc.entrepreneurs,misc.forsale.computers.discussion,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.cards.video,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.portables,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.modems,misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,misc.forsale.computers.other.misc,misc.forsale.computers.other.software,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.cards.misc,misc.forsale.computers.storage Subject: Re: INTERNET ACCESS WITHOUT A TELEPHONE LINE%%%%%%%%@! Date: 28 May 1997 06:57:15 GMT Organization: DigiPhone Corporation, Bryan/College Station Texas 409-693-8885 Message-ID: <5mgl0b$5jk@news.myriad.net> References: <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net> <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> In-Reply-To: <steve_sullivan-2505972203250001@sdn-ts-007casjosp03.dialsprint.net> On 05/25/97, steve wrote: >In article <5m3t7j$hls$1@news.megsinet.net>, tsnSSSmith@csd.net wrote: > >> Wireless Internet Access!!!!!!!!! >> >> Its finally here > > >Its been here for a while, ever here of richochet??? > No, you got me. But I'm curious what is richochet? -- --- Stephen Johnson, sjohnson@myriad.net@ Computer Consulting Intl, LTD PO Box 1046 College Station, TX 77841 409-778-4717 "the Bible is the rock on which our Republic rests" President Andrew Jackson, June 8, 1845 NOTE: delete the second @ to email to me.
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help! ColorStation Turbo won't start up Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 07:01:34 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528063051.12508A-100000@kira> References: <tim-1805970007380001@tdanaher.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Tim Danaher <tim@tdanaher.demon.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <tim-1805970007380001@tdanaher.demon.co.uk> Get into the ROM monitor and type 'bsd' at the 'NeXT' prompt and watch the boot process happen and see exactly what happens... the pictures during boot are nice but not very helpful... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on black internal disk Date: 28 May 1997 11:50:24 -0500 Organization: Jump Point Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> I'm looking to replace the internal hard disk of my NextStation (040, 25Mhz, 3.1) and need basic information on compatibility, recommendations on a reliable 1 to 1.5 gig disk, and sources. Any information would be appreciated. Maria Eugenia Tapia (maria_eugenia@jump.net)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info on black internal disk Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 10:10:14 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528100802.10533A-100000@kira> References: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Maria Eugenia Tapia <maria_eugenia@jump.net> In-Reply-To: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> I believe the basic necessity is asynch transfer and SCSI-1 (maybe SCSI-2). Biggest problem will be size & heat.... The FAQ (linked to my NeXT page) has some info... not sure how much or how old.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead 68040 machine Date: 28 May 1997 13:49:04 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Sender: blp@thorin Message-ID: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms that it has are as follows: * When the power key on the keyboard is pressed, the only thing that happens is a speaker click. If I put on the headphones then it's a loud click. * I thought that the problem might be the battery. After all, when I removed the battery, not even the speaker click happened. But replacing the battery, even after leaving the old one out for 24 hours, had no effect. * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. Any suggestions would be immensely appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> 12167 Airport Rd, DeWitt MI 48820, USA *Note*: New PGP key available at http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html
From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,ca.forsale,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.computers.mac-specific.systems,la.forsale Subject: Re: FS: NeXTStation Turbo Color 400HD, 16MB $1000+s/h Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 11:02:45 -0500 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Message-ID: <geordie-ya02408000R2805971102450001@kyrie> References: <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com> <drehring-ya02408000R2305971631540001@news.aurora.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <drehring-ya02408000R2305971631540001@news.aurora.net>, drehring@infowave.net (David Rehring) wrote: :In article <3385DED0.1B6F@ictv.com>, robert@ictv.com wrote: : :>Mac Developers, get a head start on Rhapsody! :> :>For Sale: NeXTStation Turbo Color, 400MB Hard Drive, 16MB RAM :> :> :>NO monitor, but with sound box, keyboard and mouse :>and all cables. :> :>It's configured with NS 3.2 user, but 3.2 User and Developer :>CDs are included. :> :>16 MB of RAM and 400 MB hard drive. :> :>$1000 + shipping. Free delivery in the Santa Barbara/Santa Maria area :> : :Is it just me, or does this price seem a little high for this box :considering it doesn't come with it's monitor (since you need the NeXT :specific one). Most of the 'Turbo-stations' I've seen in :comp.sys.next.marketplace are in the $500-$1000, but also include the :monitor (which ain't cheep)... : :Just my 1 cent worth... Well it is about twice what they go for with a monitor but maybe he will get lucky. : :Later, : :-- :David Rehring Psychos do not explode when light hits :Senior Software Engineer them, no matter how crazy they are... :InfoWave Wireless Messaging Inc. (Formerly GDT Softworks, Inc.) :And totally insane guy! -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * *********************************************************************
From: lespaul@shell1.tiac.net (David Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest SyJet Removable Drive on a NextStation Date: 28 May 97 19:15:42 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <lespaul.864846942@shell1.tiac.net> Has anyone had a problems connecting a Syquest SyJet removable SCSI drive to a NextStation?? I was considering purchasing one and was wondering if there were any known problems. -Dave david_wilson@crd.lotus.com lespaul@shell1.tiac.net
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From: John van Heteren <vanhet@sirius.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 12:52:08 -0700 Organization: Sirius Connections Message-ID: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a 25 MHz Mono NeXT slab still working fine except for one problem: When I eject a floppy diskette, the diskette does indeed exit the slot, but then the computer hangs with a spinning cursor. My only recourse is to reboot. I am assuming that there is a 'floppy successfully ejected' sensor which is failing to tell the OS that the floppy is indeed gone. I've actually had this problem several times before. In those instances, I opened the slab, extracted the floppy dirve, and thoroughly cleaned it with compressed dry air. Upon re-installation, the floppy drive worked fine for a while. Well, my cleaning trick no longer works. I guess the sensor is fully clogged up. My question: Is there a command line method of ejecting the floppy such that the sensor is ignored? Is there a special flag that I can use in the command line? Or, can I logically dismount the floppy with a command and then manually eject the floppy with a pushpin stuck into the service hole? Please send your answers directly to me. Thank you, John van Heteren vanhet@sirius.com
From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" <webmaster@starpage.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing 3.3 on black from white hardware Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 19:01:13 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Message-ID: <338B83D9.6A03@starpage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've found a new drive for my hand-me-down NeXTStation but of course, it doesn't have NS on it. I have the install disks, but no CD-ROM player. Is there a way I can connect it to my white hardware (which is running NS 3.3 and which has an internal SCSI-2W CD-ROM) and do the install from there? Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 15:31:44 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528152618.26507B-100000@kira> References: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: j.g.vanheteren@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> What you want is to 'umount' the drive first and then use disk -e for example, if it is mounted as /floppy at /dev/fd0a you would use /usr/etc/umount -v /floppy && disk -e /dev/rfd0a (note: floppies seem to be mounted at /dev/fd0a or /dev/fd0b... when using disk -e you must use the RAW device...) I wrote a little script to do this such as eject /floppy of course umount & disk must be run as root TjL ps -- I can help you with the commandline way if you want -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: planetary <kris@xmission.xmission.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fun with swapfiles Date: 28 May 1997 16:47:55 -0600 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5micmr$a03@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5m4c29$1p9@news.acns.nwu.edu> <5m4e2p$k44$5@news2.digex.net> <snW9Aha00Uzx81xd9I@andrew.cmu.edu> <5ma90i$a7i$1@news2.digex.net> <onWQcHm00Uzx020GQi@andrew.cmu.edu> <5md69b$7i3$1@news2.digex.net> <YnWjWRa00UhBI1Z3sb@andrew.cmu.edu> <5mf0kh$av9$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527132840.12839C-100000@kira> <5mfm8a$nd3$1@news2.digex.net> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970527162511.11713A-100000@kira> These swapfile stories bring back some old memories. When I bought my first NeXT machine, I crashed it in every way imaginable. Once I crashed it by selecting the host name in Workspace Manager and changing the name. Symlinks all over the machine broke. Then I tried to "fix" it. That's how I met the Mach researchers at the Univ. of Utah. They reloaded the OS for me, showed me single-user mode, etc. Nice guys, but they got really frustrated with me when I asked them if FTP was "hard to use." But I never crashed it by deleting the swapfile. After its deletion, it just kept growing back, like a fungus. And its absence never seemed to hurt anything. Of course, now that I know better, I would never delete my swapfile, as it would probably crash my machine instantly. =) .....................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT slab floppy eject problems Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:14:32 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528170203.11677B-100000@kira> References: <338C8CE8.6006@sirius.com> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528152618.26507B-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: j.g.vanheteren@ieee.org In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528152618.26507B-100000@kira> here's the script I whipped up: #!/bin/sh if [ "`whoami`" != "root" ] then echo "You must be root to eject & umount" exit 1 fi dev=`/usr/etc/mount -p|grep removable|\ grep '^\/dev\/fd' |awk '{print $1}'| sed 's/\/dev\///g'` name=`/usr/etc/mount -p|grep removable|grep '^\/dev\/fd' |\ awk '{print $2}'` if [ "$dev" = "" ] then echo "No floppy mounted" exit 1 else /usr/etc/umount -v "$name" && /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/r$dev && \ echo "Unmounted $name and ejected /dev/r$dev" fi exit 0 # hope this helps
From: Fred Schenkelberg <fms@vcd.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Display curling up on bottom Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 20:56:25 -0700 Organization: HP Vancouver Site Message-ID: <338CFE69.1391@vcd.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help, Been to the local tv repair shop and after a hundred bucks they make it worse. The problem is the screen is (or the visible area appears to be) curling up at the bottom and coming down from the top. Such that the cursor moving from top to bottom, travels less screen distance and heads back up around the curl over the last 1 inch of visible image, which is about 2 inches up from where it once was. This would be easier if I could show you. anyway, the tv folks said, "oh, yea, it's the vertical control chip and a few caps..." Any suggestions to pass along to the tv repair folks - since I've learned from this group not to go messing around in there myself. Is there a source of good info (drawings, pictures, etc) out there I can poin the repair folks toward? Cheers, Fred fms@vcd.hp.com
From: "Jeffrey S. Flowers" <dagdagh@exis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Hardware Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 00:11:34 -0400 Organization: EYE Productions Message-ID: <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have two questions that probably are simple, both in reference to black hardware: 1. Is there an adapter for normal monitors to be used with NeXT black hardware video output and if there is, who makes it. 2. Are the floppy drives in NeXT hardware basically a 2.88MB version of the Macintosh's, and can the Mac floppy drives be used with the NeXT systemas replacements? I would like to know in case I ever need to replace the floppy on the slab I've ordered. Thanks for your time. -- Jeffrey S. Flowers dagdagh@exis.net This is no freedom without freedom of speech.
From: bennett@corn.cso.niu.edu (Scott Bennett) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black hardware memory question Date: 29 May 1997 03:33:12 -0500 Organization: Oregon State University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5mjf08$jae@corn.cso.niu.edu> I'm in the process of sprucing up my old Cube, which still has eight of its sixteen SIMM slots sitting empty. The first eight have 4Mbx9's in them and I had planned to buy eight more, but I see a few vendors are selling 30-pin SIMMs that they claim are 16Mbx9 SIMMs with nine chips per SIMM (as with 1Mbx9's and 4Mbx9's.) What I'd like to know is will these 16Mbx9 SIMMs actually work in a NeXT Cube? --->If anyone knows the answer, please reply directly by email, but to an address in the signature block below. I rarely log into the machine from which I'm posting this message these days. Thanks much. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences Oregon State University Corvallis, Oregon 97331 ********************************************************************** * Internet: sbennett@ats.orst.edu sbennett@oce.orst.edu * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * "The jury has a right to judge both the law as well as the fact in * * controversy."--John Jay, First Chief Justice, U.S. Supreme Court * * in Georgia vs. Brailsford, 1794 * **********************************************************************
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Odd power on/off problem Date: 29 May 1997 15:29:47 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5mk7db$ser$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> Cc: charris@bu.edu In <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> Catherine Harris wrote: > After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came > down with this problem: > > The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot > just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I > can work as normal. > > But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have > to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's > power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without > me every hitting the power on key). > > Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As > normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off > screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer > starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom > monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) > I'm not sure how common this is because I've not seen these symptoms posted very much. But it sounds like a motherboard battery problem. Replace the battery on the Motherboard and in the ROM monitor reset your options by using p ROM> p Your system should be fine then. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Install NEXTSTEP 3.2 on 3 GB large disk? Date: 29 May 1997 15:40:48 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5mk820$ser$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <EAtosB.8wr@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Cc: liu@emerald.physics In <EAtosB.8wr@info.physics.utoronto.ca> Wei Liu wrote: > Hi, there: > > Anyone has such experience in installing NEXTSTEP OS 3.2 on a large SCSI disk bigger than 2GB? I know both /etc/disk and DiskBuilder have problem with that. And the CDROM installation won't help either. Following one of NEXTanswers on this issue, I was able to partition and initialize it by creating a disktab entry. Although it behaves all right as a file system, it seems it can't be booted even I moved every system file to this disk and wrote the /usr/standalone/boot into the boot sector. It just hangs ri > > ght after saying "root on sd0". Sometimes it even says no SCSI disk attached. Your help is greatly appreciated!! > I'm sure someone has a more clever way of doing this and I never really researched for a good solution. I have never been able to install NS directly from CD to a HD larger than 2G on black hardware. Last time I tried this was under 3.2 as you are trying. If you have a working system running NS3.2 you should be able to construct a disktab (as you already have) and then use builddisk on the 3G disk. It worked fine on a 4G barracuda I have. After running this way I switched back to using a <2G drive as my system disk. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Info on black internal disk Message-ID: <EAy385.6Cn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:38:29 GMT In article <5mhnog$s45@serv1.jump.net> maria_eugenia@jump.net (Maria Eugenia Tapia) writes: > I'm looking to replace the internal hard disk of my NextStation > (040, 25Mhz, 3.1) and need basic information on compatibility, > recommendations on a reliable 1 to 1.5 gig disk, and sources. > Any information would be appreciated. > All black machines require SCSI-1, asynch. SCSI-2 (without automatic disabling of SCSI-2 features) will lead to problems with disconnect/ reconnect operations on heavy I/O loads. Synch mode drives will not be able to boot. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Message-ID: <EAy2Kz.6B9@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:24:35 GMT In article <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes: > I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with > 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms > that it has are as follows: > > * When the power key on the keyboard is pressed, the only > thing that happens is a speaker click. If I put on the headphones > then it's a loud click. > > * I thought that the problem might be the battery. After all, > when I removed the battery, not even the speaker click happened. But > replacing the battery, even after leaving the old one out for 24 > hours, had no effect. > > * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for > replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough > amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their serice is said to be rather expensive, though. BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages missing? -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Message-ID: <EAy2yD.6Bz@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 13:32:36 GMT In article <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) writes: > I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. > It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a > faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width > of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it > back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem > recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. > > What I need to know is, is this problem due to something wrong on the > printer (e.g. the fuser), or the toner cartridge, or what? One thing I > can figure out is where the long felt pad bar goes in the printer. I > seem to recall from having worked with an original NeXT LaserPrinter is > that it went somewhere along the paper path; I can't find a place for it > in the refurbished printer. > The felt bar sits right under the hinge of the printer's cover. Rather hard to access. And if the fuser is hot you are in danger to get some rather hot fingers :-) But what does a "new catridge" mean? Is is manufactured lately or just unused until now? Laser printer toner is mainly a ground powder of a polymer raisin and soot. If it sits on shelf for a long time it tends to occlude and the static electricity of the selenium drum might not be able to get it spread finely enough (therefore the suceptibilty for working correctly after being shook up). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 29 May 1997 13:05:06 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Sender: blp@thorin Message-ID: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> References: <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> <EAy2Kz.6B9@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their serice is > said to be rather expensive, though. > > BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages missing? When I push the power key on the keyboard, nothing happens. A voltmeter registers a fraction of a volt for a fraction of a second. Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does anyone know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' when it's not connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power key? I guess what I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power supply? -- Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> 12167 Airport Rd, DeWitt MI 48820, USA *Note*: New PGP key available at http://www.msu.edu/user/pfaffben/pgp.html
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Date: 29 May 1997 18:01:29 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5mkg9p$4eo@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <EAy2Kz.6B9@nidat.sub.org> > In article <87wwojfpwv.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes: > I recently acquired, for free, a dead 68040 NeXT machine with > 17" monitor, from a local school with no use for it. The symptoms > that it has are as follows: > [...] > > * I suspect the power supply. Is there a source for > replacement NeXT power supplies? PC power supplies don't supply enough > amps at the voltages that the NeXT wants. > Have a look at : http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Odd power on/off problem Date: 29 May 1997 18:04:34 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5mkgfi$4f5@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5mk7db$ser$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > In <5ma8bt$hqn@news.bu.edu> Catherine Harris wrote: > After 5 years of flawless service, my NextStation (running 3.0) came > down with this problem: > > The PowerOn key dumps me in the Rom monitor. From there, I can boot > just by typing bsd. The boot is fine, nothing appears damaged and I > can work as normal. > > But the PowerOn key can not be used to shut this machine off. I have > to unplug it. Interestingly, within 30 sec of sticking the machine's > power plug into an outlet, it pops on, and sticks me in Rom (without > me every hitting the power on key). > > Hitting the power key gives the usual really power off sign. As > normal, the screen goes gray, the finally it appears to power off > screen goes black, everything goes silent) -- and then the computer > starts up, I get a testing message, then I'm dumped in the Rom > monitor. (From which point I can bsd and go about my work.) Have a look at : http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: "Jesse D. Hurlbut" <webmaster@starpage.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: experience with Conner drive? Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 17:37:24 -0600 Organization: StarPage LCC Message-ID: <338CC1B4.7AAA@starpage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone have any good or bad reports on installing a Conner CFP1060S 1Gb drive in a NeXTstation? How can I find out if this is an asynch drive? thanks, Jesse_Hurlbut@byu.edu
From: popadich@umich.edu (Alex Popadich) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2940 - Sanyo CRD-245S install problems Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 16:36:12 -0500 Organization: Health Media Research Lab Message-ID: <popadich-2905971636120001@news.itd.umich.edu> References: <Popadich-2205972200370001@st084.ichange.net> <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5m5bt4$ahn@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de>, uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) wrote: > > Bad news: it is exactly your CD-ROM (sd1: SANYO CRD-245S 1.01) that for some > reason has proven incompatible with NEXTSTEP. Replace it with a, say, > Toshiba, and everything will work... > > Bye > Uli > -- This is exactly what the problem was. I managed to find an old Apple CD-Rom and hooked it up externaly and then installed from the external drive. The only caveat was that the installer needed to be told where the root partition is located. In my case it would be on the first partition of the third SCSI device. NOTE: Third SCSI device not the SCSI ID. The documentation states that at the boot: prompt I should type something like fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd0c to specify that the root partition is the first partition (0) on the 3rd drive (c). This did not work. What worked for me is: fd()mach_kernel rootdev=sd2, the devices nubers are zero based. Hope this is of help to anyone who is having similar problems. Alex Popadich --------------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Popadich popadich@umich.edu Health Media Research Lab (313) 763-6099 Comprehensive Cancer Center University of Michigan "Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side, a dark side, and it holds the universe together..." -- Carl Zwanzig ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: salyzyn@dpt.com (Mark Salyzyn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners under OPENSTEP: how? Date: 29 May 1997 21:00:09 GMT Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Message-ID: <5mkqop$uk1@news.nvi.net> References: <5m2rk2$41o$2@news.xmission.com> <5m5u6d$7qo@slip.net> I wrote a driver for the ScanFX scanner that works fine on NS3.2 to OS4.2 Sincerely -- Mark Salyzyn mark@bohica.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EAyMDz.7r2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 29 May 1997 20:32:22 GMT References: <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <338D01F6.98DEED0D@exis.net>, Jeffrey S. Flowers <dagdagh@exis.net> wrote: >I have two questions that probably are simple, both in reference to >black hardware: > >1. Is there an adapter for normal monitors to be used with NeXT black >hardware video output and if there is, who makes it. > You can use pretty much any good monitor on the colour machines, provided you can get the 13W3 connector to agree with your monitor. I've had good results with IBM POWERDisplay 20s and P200s, but didn't fare so well with some Sun thing (the one with the silly remote control.) You're pretty much hosed for mono, without severe hackery (lots of circuitry is in the monitor, like audio CODECs, keyboard interface, etc.) >2. Are the floppy drives in NeXT hardware basically a 2.88MB version of >the Macintosh's, and can the Mac floppy drives be used with the NeXT >systemas replacements? I would like to know in case I ever need to >replace the floppy on the slab I've ordered. > No. The NeXT floppy is something strange--Sony MPX-111 or so sticks in my mind. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: toth.22@osu.edu (Jerek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Logging in with used hdd Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 01:38:35 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <toth.22.559.338E2F9B@osu.edu> Hi folks, I just installed a used hdd on my Nextstation and it keeps on asking for a user name and password. Is there a way to get around this? Thanks Spam-proof email... <*remove the '##' in my email address*>
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 30 May 1997 02:13:21 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <EAy2yD.6Bz@nidat.sub.org> Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In <EAy2yD.6Bz@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> L e e Altenberg writes: > > I got one of the refurbished NeXT LaserPrinters from the PrinterWorks. > > It seems to work great except for one thing. After a while, it gets a > > faded streak where the printing is very light on about 1/5 of the width > > of the paper. If I take the toner cartridge out and shake it and put it > > back, then the printing is fine again...for a while, and the problem > > recurs, fixable the same way. It has a new HP 92295A toner cartridge. > > > > But what does a "new catridge" mean? Is is manufactured lately or just > unused until now? Laser printer toner is mainly a ground powder of a > polymer raisin and soot. If it sits on shelf for a long time it tends to > occlude and the static electricity of the selenium drum might not be able > to get it spread finely enough (therefore the suceptibilty for working > correctly after being shook up). > I bought the HP 92295A toner cartridge in March from CDW. Since they do a pretty high volume, I would presume that it was manufactured very recently. When I have just shaken up the cartridge, the printing quality is really excellent---blacks are much more saturated than they were with a NeXT Laser Printer using an HP cartridge back in 1990. So the toner cartridge technology must have improved. But the light streak would suggest that the toner is sticking, leaving gaps in the stack above the drum. The PrinterWorks said the problem was the cartridge. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Logging in with used hdd Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:08:30 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530060705.20589C-100000@kira> References: <toth.22.559.338E2F9B@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <toth.22.559.338E2F9B@osu.edu> On Fri, 30 May 1997, Jerek wrote: > Hi folks, I just installed a used hdd on my Nextstation and it keeps on > asking for a user name and password. Is there a way to get around this? when is it asking for a password? When you boot? Or after you boot? Checkout the 'faq' page on my web page for dealing with not knowing the root password.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CPU Timing On 68k NeXT Date: 30 May 1997 18:07:43 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5mn51f$1gr$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> Fellow Netters - This is another appeal for information about how the 68k NeXT board's CPU timing works. My current project is to move some of the Mac clock chipping techniques over to the somewhat similar 68k NeXT boards. I have two slab boards and am working to understand how the CPU timing works. On Macs, we can easily replace an oscillator and speed up the CPU (for many models) but the 68k NeXT uses a different type of oscillator. Does anyone out there know how the CPU gets its timing and how it distributes that signal to the other components (optical drive, hard drive, video)? If so, could you write me? TIA -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh>
From: "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@issl.atl.hp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: trying to size ups for a cube..... Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 14:03:19 -0400 Organization: Internet and Systems Security Lab Distribution: world Message-ID: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) thanks
From: lance@chimp.org (Lancelot Link) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 17:13:23 -0500 Organization: Secret Chimp Message-ID: <lance-3005971713230001@192.163.1.5> Greetings. I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer to, say, a company that makes an adapter? Thanks kindly. T
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: experience with Conner drive? Date: 30 May 1997 21:32:10 GMT Message-ID: <19970530213200.RAA12622@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <338CC1B4.7AAA@starpage.com> does anyone have any good or bad reports on installing a Conner CFP1060S 1Gb drive in a NeXTstation? How can I find out if this is an asynch drive? conner is an ok drive until they break. seagate doesnt want to acknowledge their warranty. why do i say this. because i have 30 seagate 51080n , new in stock. sorry. but the are $349 new UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: Christian Hahn <chahn@on-luebeck.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanner support Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 02:03:36 +0200 Organization: Offenes Netz Luebeck e.V. Message-ID: <338F6AD8.337C@on-luebeck.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to everybody! I'm looking for information about scanners that are supported by OpenStep. I've found a driver for the UMAX Vista S-8. Does anyone know about a driver for the other Vista models (S-6, S-12)? If there is anyone experienced in this stuff, please help. Thanks in advance, Christian
From: rgranneman@spectir.com (Russ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 01:00:22 GMT Organization: West.Net Communications Message-ID: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? Thanks for your help Russ
From: dyaeb@SLAC.Stanford.EDU (David Aston) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! NS3.3/OS4.1 will not install on new Sparc 5 Date: 31 May 1997 03:04:10 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5mo4fa$59m$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I have a new SPARCstation 5 with the 170Mhz TurboSPARC chip and S24 video. During the initial loading of NextStep or OpenStep it crashes (before any software has been installed). With OpenStep 4.1, it just aborts and reboots. The last messages are about zs0 and zs1. Trying NextStep 3.3 I get a kernel panic with a traceback (I can send details if anyone thinks it will help). The last message is about zs0. This is not a hardware problem (even though I installed the CDRom and floppy drives!); as a check, I did successfully install and run Solaris on it. I have also installed NS3.3 before on several Sparc 4's without trouble, so I don't think it's basic incompetence either. I cannot find any information in NextAnswers indicating that the latest Sparc 5's are not supported. Can anyone help??? <Dave> -- Dave Aston......Internet: dyaeb@slac.stanford.edu; BitNet: RIP *8-( MS62 Voice: (415)926-2457; Fax: (415)926-3587 SLAC, Stanford U, and DOE are not responsible for _anything_ I say.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Dead 68040 machine Message-ID: <EB1Kon.786@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 10:48:23 GMT In article <87oh9ucipp.fsf@pilot.msu.edu> Ben Pfaff <pfaffben@pilot.msu.edu> writes: > Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > > NeXT hardware support is availble through BellAtlantic. Their > > serice is said to be rather expensive, though. > > > > BTW, have you tested the power output on your slab? Any voltages > > missing? > > When I push the power key on the keyboard, nothing happens. A > voltmeter registers a fraction of a volt for a fraction of a > second. > > Does anyone know the color coding of power supply wires? Does > anyone know how the power supply can be convinced to `turn on' > when it's not connected to a NeXT computer-monitor-keyboard-power > key? I guess what I'm asking is, how does one test a NeXT power > supply? I can't tell you the pinout, and I'm a bit too lazy to rmove the 100 pound 21" monitor to open the box for checking as long as there are other ways to find out. Check the FAQ and Usenet archive on Peanuts <peanuts.leo.org>, for instance. But I can tell you a bit about how the thing is meant to work: The power supplies in black machines, cubes as well as slabs, are self adjusting fully electronic switching devices. They are controlled by a battery backed up support cirquitry that controls the keyboard, clock and configuration NOVRAM. The pulse that you measured might well have been this control signal! Since these power supply units have no mechanical cirquit breaker, there is a "way of last resort" fuse soldered onto the cirquit board of the power supply. Unfortunately, in almost all cases that this fuse is blown a serious damage to the power supply is the consequence (or prerequesite?). But in many cases the power supply does not react to the power switch it is only a spent back up battery. It should measure 3V and, in case of being spent, can easily be replaced with a spare to be bought in any camera store. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Message-ID: <EB1upB.7o7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:24:46 GMT In article <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> rgranneman@spectir.com (Russ) writes: > I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all > ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need > guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into > the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? > Press <Right Command-~> (double key stroke) while system is starting up. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: NeXT MegaPixel 17" -> Macintosh Message-ID: <EB1us2.7ov@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <lance-3005971713230001@192.163.1.5> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:26:26 GMT In article <lance-3005971713230001@192.163.1.5> lance@chimp.org (Lancelot Link) writes: > Greetings. > > I'd like to hook a MegaPixel 17" to a Mac; does anyone have a pointer > to, say, a company that makes an adapter? > The monochrome NeXT monitor has no own power supply. It can't be operated apart from the NeXT system unit. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: trying to size ups for a cube..... Message-ID: <EB1uyz.7pL@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 14:30:34 GMT In article <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> "Joseph K. Vossen" <jkv@issl.atl.hp.com> writes: > I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an > idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on > a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the > one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) > The power intake of a Cube is 300W at a maximum current (start up) of 5A. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: finton@homer.cs.wisc.edu (David Finton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Can I use a trackball on a non-ADB turbocolor NeXT? Date: 31 May 1997 17:37:13 GMT Organization: University of WI, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept. Message-ID: <5mpnk9$dbm@spool.cs.wisc.edu> I have a non-ADB NeXT TurboColor, and am using a Logitech bus mouse on it. I was wondering if there are any trackball devices which would work with the converter which came with the Logitech? Recommendations? Thanks, David Finton finton@cs.wisc.edu
From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanner support Date: 31 May 1997 18:24:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5mpqc2$1pau@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <338F6AD8.337C@on-luebeck.de> Christian Hahn <chahn@on-luebeck.de> wrote: > Hi to everybody! > > I'm looking for information about scanners that are supported by > OpenStep. I've found a driver for the UMAX Vista S-8. Does anyone know > about a driver for the other Vista models (S-6, S-12)? > If there is anyone experienced in this stuff, please help. > Thanks in advance, > > Christian Our theory group just bought an S-6 which doesn't quite work with Woodward's scan.app. Since source is available, one might be able to modify it to get one of the other UMAX scanners to work. From the messages we receive on three error panels that pop up with the following messages 1) SCSI error: sr_io_status=02X (Check status, sr_esense valid) 2) Report failed! Sense key=00X (No sense to report) Sense code = 00X 3) Couldn't read! and the messages that appear in the console: size=0 CDB= sr_dma_dir=0 sr_addr=002fbfe2 sr_dma_max=65535 sr_ioto=90 sr_io_status=2 sr_scsi_status=02 sr_esense=F000200000DB2417000000000000000000000000000000000000 sr_dma_xfr=0 sr_exec_time=000000001C4E0000 Sense: 0 (0x00) = 0xF0 15 (0x0F) = 0x00 Sense: 1 (0x01) = 0x00 16 (0x10) = 0x00 Sense: 2 (0x02) = 0x20 17 (0x11) = 0x00 Sense: 3 (0x03) = 0x00 18 (0x12) = 0x00 Sense: 4 (0x04) = 0x00 19 (0x13) = 0x00 Sense: 5 (0x05) = 0xDB 20 (0x14) = 0x00 Sense: 6 (0x06) = 0x24 21 (0x15) = 0x00 Sense: 7 (0x07) = 0x17 22 (0x16) = 0x00 Sense: 8 (0x08) = 0x00 23 (0x17) = 0x00 Sense: 9 (0x09) = 0x00 24 (0x18) = 0x00 Sense: 10 (0x0A) = 0x00 25 (0x19) = 0x00 Sense: 11 (0x0B) = 0x00 26 (0x1A) = 0x00 Sense: 12 (0x0C) = 0x00 27 (0x1B) = 0x00 Sense: 13 (0x0D) = 0x00 28 (0x1C) = 0x00 Sense: 14 (0x0E) = 0x00 29 (0x1D) = 0x00, I would assume that we have some sort of SCSI problem such as sending the wrong requests to the scanner. We do get images but they're like the images you see on an old television that isn't in horizontal sync. The images are sliced and not recognizable. Someone posted recently that there is a driver called ScanOmatic that will handle the UMAX scanners as well as several others. I don't have the URL handy now. -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison ted.allen@theory1.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: trying to size ups for a cube..... Date: 31 May 1997 18:55:11 GMT Message-ID: <19970531185501.OAA16013@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <338F1667.3BF9@issl.atl.hp.com> I am looking at getting a ups for my cube and I am trying to get an idea on what size to get. For those of you who have your cube on a ups, what size did you end up getting? (and are you happy with the one you purchased or do you think you should have gotten a bigger one?) dont know your configuration, but at http://www.exide.com they have a sizing tool. not that i am or am not recommending. but 300va is 99 700 va is $390 1500 standby $500 trueonline $790 ball parks bigger the ups the more the battery time regularly ups cost should reflect the cost of what it is protecting/data /cost/ of hardware lastly, is it mission critical UPS/ SUN/SCSI Built to order IN Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556 POWERSTAR INC.
From: alanf@izzy.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faxing on NextStep Intel with USR Sportster 36.6k Date: 31 May 1997 19:02:24 GMT Organization: "Comshare, Inc." Message-ID: <5mpsk0$lp9$1@inet-prime.comshare.com> References: <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> Cc: ngervae@sirius.com Check out Olaf Mueller's OlafAM (at Peak, Peanuts FTP sites), a fax and answering machine solution for NeXTStep. It works with ZyXEL's, but I've read he's working on supporting other modems. Regards, Alan Frabutt (alanf@izzy.net) In <5lrd09$k33@sun.sirius.com> ngervae@sirius.com wrote: > Does anybody have any news or experiences on how to fax from NextStep > Intel? I have a USR Sportster 36.6k modem, and the only driver > software I've come across is Jolly's Class 2 Fax, which doesn't work. > Any help is appreciated. Please reply BY EMAIL. > > ---- > Nik Gervae, Technical Writer, San Francisco > ngervae@sirius.com > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: oklahoma special effects Message-ID: <5mm1us$l8o@news2.cais.com> From: steve edwards<custservice@tulsastage.com> Date: 30 May 1997 08:09:00 GMT Organization: tulsa stage lighting thanks for your intrest. as many of you know we supply fog, smoke, bubble, snow, strobe. black light, and other equipment to millitary, government, stage, and theatrical productions. if i can help you with any special effect let me know... we also stock high power lamps from 500w to 20,000w ( new meaning to night lights) thanx steve
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Faded streaks on NeXT Laser Printer Date: 31 May 1997 21:08:58 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5mq41a$pcj$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5m90es$4ma$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <EAy2yD.6Bz@nidat.sub.org> <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In article <5mld41$lt0$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu>, L e e Altenberg <decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net> wrote: > The PrinterWorks said the problem was the cartridge. Probably right. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue M/S 44UR Enterprise Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.1053 Views within this message may not be those of the Hewlett-Packard Company
From: parrenne@venus.ecoledoc.ibp.fr Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer for NeXT Date: 31 May 1997 22:20:26 GMT Organization: Universites Paris VI/Paris VII - France Message-ID: <5mq87a$rim$1@vishnu.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, Can i connect an LaserWriter on my "pizza box" 6840 NeXtStation, with an Apple cable minidin<->minidin: on the printer -> AppleTalk (mini-8-din) on the NeXT -> Serial port A or B. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Next cube ROM settings .. HELP Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <EB240D.HLu@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 17:45:49 GMT References: <338f7752.604209@news.west.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <338f7752.604209@news.west.net>, Russ <rgranneman@spectir.com> wrote: >I recently lost my battery on my Next cube and as a result lost all >ROM settings. I have no documentation on the system and I need >guidance resetting them to boot from my SCSI HD. How do I get into >the "bios?" ? Keyboard input during boot?? Just after "Testing System" goes away and "Loading from Disk" (or from Network or whatever) appears, press right Command-` (the one on the numeric keypad above 7.) This will get you to the ROM monitor. You can then use the "p" command to set various things. You'd want the boot command to be "sd". -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NeXT CD-ROM (SCSI) work on an Intel P100 machine? Date: 31 May 1997 20:12:06 -0700 Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, California Message-ID: <5mqpa6$mva$1@spock.dis.cccd.edu> I'm trying to load NS 3.2 for Intel on my P100 throw together. I've got 32 meg RAM, disconnected 2.3 gig IDE HD, 1.6 gig SCSI hard drive (address 0), and a NeXT single speed CD-ROM (Sony CDU-451(?)). The SCSI devices are hooked up to a Jazz Jet card from Iomega (Adaptec OEM AHA-4140 (?). I'm not sure about the model number but the Iomega card is bootable. My bios loads and recognizes both SCSI devices but I hang shortly after. The SCSI HD needs to be formatted. Do I have to have DOS on it to load from my NeXT floppy? I tried getting to the HD from Win95 but Explorer won't recognize it. The CD-ROM takes up drive d: but will not read. Also, the SCSI card says the hd is assigned to D:. Apparently both SCSI devices are assigned to D:. I am confused a bit. Any pointers to an FAQ? References would be appreciated. Thanks. Maurices
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