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From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 01:13:57 GMT Organization: Continental Cable International Mid-West Region Message-ID: <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao <mailto:coao@space.mit.edu> wrote: > > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? My cube came with a cool black NeXT tool that fits all the fasteners.... 8-) I dunno what it is called, but it has a kind of a ball end on it, so you can pull with it too, and a hex kind of end..... sorry, I'm no Tim the Toolman, but I can do hardware.... I ripped 2 cubes all apart, put one back together with all the best parts and stuff, and it fired up first try 8-) hehehe
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Low CD Audio Volume with Next Step 3.2 Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:11:58 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5f704e$r0j$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Keywords: NextStep, CDPlayer.app When I play an audio CD using Nextstep CDPalyer, the volume is not as loud for the same settings as it is with CD player application rrunning under Windows. CAN any one guide me how I can pump up the volume under NextStep also? Thank you. Narendra
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 1 Mar 1997 03:40:58 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm287-09.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f88ga$coe$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 10:09 PM, Rudolf B. Blazek <mailto:blazek@stt.msu.edu> > wrote: > > I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When > > > Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am > > getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that > > can > > handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. > > Where are you going to get the adapter that will allow the connection of > the NeXT monitor to the Mac? I have lots of NeXT monitors and lots of > Macs, but they aren't connected together. I would like to pop a 17" NeXT > on everyone's desk. > > I would appreciate the info. > > Mitch > > > Well, I am not sure. This is exactly the question I was asking here some time ago - without any responses. In the meantime, I spoke to a person who told me that they had a special video card in their Mac that allowed them to connect the green-on-sync monitor to the Mac. I hoped that there could be an option for the Mac too. Maybe Steve Jobs could advice Apple to keep new Macs hardware compatible with the old black NeXTs? :-)))) If someone had a definite answer to the NeXT monitor on Mac question, I would appreciate it. Thanks, good luck Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Chi On Ao <coao@space.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 02:33:41 -0500 Organization: MIT Message-ID: <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks to all who have replied to my original post. I got a 3mm Hex Wrench and opened the cube easily. However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done that give me some guidance here? Thank you! Chi On
From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NE2000 Driver Date: 1 Mar 1997 07:25:12 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5f8lko$cfn$1@lynet.de> Hello, is there a driver for a NE2000 compatible Ethernet-Card out there? If yes, where do I find it. Thanks in advance Andreas
From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 1 Mar 1997 12:02:45 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5f95t5$kcp$1@lynet.de> Hello, is anybody out there running a ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or flimmering screen). Can anybody help me? Thanks in advance! Andreas
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 11:26:39 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39538.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39538.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>coao@space.mit.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing >exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my >clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done >that give me some guidance here? Thank you! I just had the same problem. NeXT used to ship a special tool, but I didn't have access to one so I built a tool myself. First of all, I was stunned to read the NeXTAnswer about removing simms from an '040 motherboard. Whenever I've worked with simms or dimms of any kind, they've always been removed very carefully from both sides at the same time. THe NeXTAnswer describes using their special tool to "gently pry the simm first from one end and then the other..." To build a tool I got one of those really big paper clips--the kind that's shaped like a butterfly, not the oval variety. The really big ones are made with a very heavy gauge wire. Straighten out a part of the clip and bend a very sharp, slightly more than right angle hook in the end. The hook should be no more than 1/8th of an inch long. Leave the rest of the clip as a "handle". Now insert the hook part of the tool from the side of the simm _away_ from the edge of the motherboard. The hook will push the plastic retaining clip out of the hole through which the hook is now inserted. VERY carefully pry the simm loose on that end and then do the other end of the simm. This will take some force and you'll have to be very careful that you don't suddenly jerk the whole simm out from both ends because you might break the plastic retaining clip on the other end. Again, this is essentially how NeXTAnswers describes this process as hard to believe as I found it. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory upgrade Date: 1 Mar 1997 16:58:16 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <5f9n78$144@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> I think this could be due to your upgrade memory being of EDO type. Try using non-EDO memory. Yuris O. Fuentes (yuris@Unforgettable.com) wrote: : hi there, : I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to : post my question in this Newsgroup... : I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). : Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical : memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error : messages : : 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' : 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' : there's a bunch of addresses here and there : Am I missing something important? : should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? : I manage to reboot in single-user mode but after a while : I got a 'memory fault' and 'out of space' messages. : eventually freezing the monitor. : Any help/suggestions are welcome! : Thanks very much in advance : Yuris Fuentes *:) -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good config choices Date: 28 Feb 97 17:47:14 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb28174714@howard.one.net> References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> In-reply-to: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca's message of 28 Feb 1997 02:44:25 GMT In article <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () writes: Motherboard questions: Does having the HX chipset instead of the FX set have any advantage? Absolutely go with HX. FX these days is pretty much relegated to lower-end machines. HX gives you some performance improvements in the bargain. You can cache as much memory as you want (assuming your motherboard lets you put on a tag SRAM to get past 64M). On VX versus HX, HX is somewhat faster, unless you're overclocking (even then with certain boards), and HX can cache more memory. [HX is the "SOHO" chipset, VX is the "home" or "multimedia" chipset, or some such.] Also be certain to get a decent board. I got an ASUS, wonderful board. No-name clones are death. Is there an advantage to having USB ports? Not for NeXTSTEP (no drivers). You might want to get one with the USB headers, just in case. Presumably having extra simm slots makes memory upgrading cheaper. You don't have to throw away the smaller chips as soon. Just make sure you get enough memory from the get-go. 64M in two slots leaves two (or four, depending) slots to stuff another 128M into at some point. Or you could go straight to 128M (at a premium, though). This is one problem with VX and SDRAM - SDRAM is theoretically faster (in practice the L2 cache pretty much negates this), but you'll have troubles getting an SDRAM board past 64M, and using SDRAM and EDO wastes the SDRAM premium. What are the tradeoffs between EDO, ECC and Parity memory? For HX, Parity _is_ ECC - it uses 8 bits per 64 bits to do ECC, automagically. EDO is somewhat faster than FPM, though again the L2 cache overwhelms the difference. [On the other hand, they generally cost the same, so ...] You can also get EDO parity simms, though they seem to carry a premium. Personally, I didn't bother with parity/ECC. Didn't seem worth it for a client machine, and I've never had a problem with memory. Ignorance is bliss, at least for now. SCSI questions: Controllers such as the Adaptex 2940UW that have internal 50 pin and 68 pin connectors: Presumably they can be used with both? You can use any two of the three (2 internal, one external) at once. Can't use all three, because SCSI doesn't like a Y in the bus. Might also want to consider something like an NCR 825 - $100, with internal 50 and 68 pin connectors. A bit harder to get installed, though, and doesn't do automagic termination depending on whether there's an external device connected. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:40:30 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <5ea1lu$rq0@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> In comp.sys.next.hardware jof@lune.univ-lr.fr wrote: > Hello, > > I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or > you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr > > Thank you. > > Hi. You can buy used power supplies at a reasonable price from: DeepSpace Technologies 10087 Tyler Place Unit #11 Ijamsville, MD 21754 Ph. 301-663-3033 Fax 301-620-9634 "DEEPSPACE TECH." <sedwards@bigdog.fred.net> You can buy new power supplies and mice from: DecisionOne 2323 Indutrial Pkwy West Hayward, CA 94454 fax: 510-266-3078 voice: 800-499-6398 (option 2) Cheers, Richard Larson
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Removeable drives for Turbo Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:03:04 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-0103971005210001@i529.oro.net> I am the new owner of a Turbo Cube and would like to take advantage of the internal bay for some type of removeable drive mechanism. I know the older OD drives do not work but is the some replacement drive available that will fit in the bay and allow larger capacity removeable media to be used, kinda like the older non turbo optical drives. Thanks Tom BTW, I am interested in buying also so if you have something for sale, let me know.
From: jba@news.pixar.com (John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black hardware sppedup question Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:20:43 GMT Organization: Pixar Message-ID: <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com> Hello, I'v got a color station (non turbo)... thia may be a terribly naive thought, but can I just replace the CPU and chrystal to 33Mhz? Is there any other hardware on the board that is speed dependant? thanks John -- _____________________________________________________________ John Anderson jba@pixar.com Pixar Animation Studios http://www.pixar.com "Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself." --Rita Mae Brown
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT color monitors on PowerMacs Date: 1 Mar 1997 18:41:22 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm285-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f9t8i$sv2$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello, I have asked about connecting NeXT monitors to a PowerMac in the Mac newsgroups. Here is the question and the reply from David (OKERSON@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov) Any comments? Thanks. Good day to all. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability Message from David: --------------------------------------------------- Yes, you can connect such a monitor to the video output from the PowerMacintosh computers without the need to get a special card. However, either *you* will need to learn about the internal adjustments of your monitor, or else develop a friend in the electrical engineering department (or among the technicians) who can help you. Before the Quadra models, Macintoshes produced sync on green, separate H and V sync, and combined H+V sync. The NeXT computers (and their monitors) used sync on green, and the monitors normally do not provide inputs for H or V sync. There is a simple adapter sold by a company from Nashville called "Griffin" which can put sync onto the green video line. Alternative, you could build such an adapter yourself using electronic components worth about $.01, but you might prefer to buy. The real challenge will be to adjust the monitor's horizontal scan frequency to match one of the modes which your Macintosh can produce. Do *NOT* think about "resolution of XxY". The only thing which your monitor cares about is the H and V scan frequencies. Of these two, the V scan frequency is quite flexible - the monitor will match over quite a large range. However, the H scan frequency has to match quite precisely. There is normally an adjustment, but it may not have a very wide range. Your monitor can probably be adjusted to match the H scan frequency for the Macintosh's 19" mode, which uses 1024x768 at a 75 Hertz vertical scan rate. Best regards, David ****************************** In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, you write... >Hello, > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that >doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some >adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > >1120x832 pixels and 68Hz >1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > I don't have the monitor yet, so I am not sure which frequency it will be. >These are the monitors from a NeXTstation - I am planning to use one of them >when I move from NeXT to PowerMac when Rhapsody is shipping. > >Thanks for any info. > >Good luck. > >Rudy. > >-- >Rudy Blazek Michigan State University >blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability >(NeXTmail and Mime compatible) >
From: kostas polonifis <kpolo@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice needed Date: Sat, 01 Mar 1997 19:26:20 -0800 Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Message-ID: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I curently have a pentium which i think to upgrate in a dual CPU machine pentium or P-Pro. Can any body tell me if the OS supports dual CPU?? If yes are there any special setings? Thanks in advance.
From: paul@spectrum.slu.edu (Paul J. Sanchez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 01 Mar 1997 14:02:17 -0600 Organization: Me, organized? You must be joking. Message-ID: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? -- --paul http://www.umsl.edu/~psanchez/
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:15:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5fa696$s8a$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> Cc: stimpy@castlerock.com In <5f7vsl$2jr$1@denws01.mw.highway1.com> stimpy@castlerock.com wrote: > In <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao <mailto:coao@space.mit.edu> wrote: > > > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > > > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? > > > My cube came with a cool black NeXT tool that fits all the fasteners.... 8-) > > I dunno what it is called, but it has a kind of a ball end on it, so > you can pull with it too, and a hex kind of end..... > > sorry, I'm no Tim the Toolman, but I can do hardware.... > I ripped 2 cubes all apart, put one back together with all the best > parts and stuff, and it fired up first try 8-) > NeXT Hex Wrench (I have 2 or three of them among other things ;). 3mm. Very handy with Black Cubes and N4000x monitors. Randy > -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 1 Mar 1997 21:30:11 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5fa753$s8a$2@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <gn5kuxK00iWZ8533E1@andrew.cmu.edu> Cc: cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu In <gn5kuxK00iWZ8533E1@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger wrote: > Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Feb-97 Re: A better > NeXTStation or.. by Cmoore@cyberport.com > > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. > > there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. > > > > they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible > > with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. > > > > not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ? > > Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard > cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor > is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. > > You're right that the resolution is different from the standard ones > used by Mac or PC video cards, but again it was a somewhat common > resolution in use by the workstation world. > > So, you're unlikely to be able to use a NeXT monitor on other machines, > unless you've got an old Sun workstation around. However, you can use > almost any decent multisync monitor with NeXT's hardware, if the monitor > will understand the sync-on-green. > > -Chuck > With a little tweaking of the innards my, 21" Hitachi (ADB) works fine on my Indigo 2! ;) Havn't tried a Non-ADB version yet. One of my sources says 21" ADB (maybe 17" ADB too) monitors are multisync.. ;) Don't have a Mac to try em on. And it is true just about any multisync monitor that syncs on Green work on Black Color Systems. So go hit MTech up for some ADB systems. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Cant Power off??? Message-ID: <E6D86n.5C8@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:01:34 GMT In article <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> jba@lanminds.com (=JA3=John Anderson) writes: > Hello, > > I'm pretty new to NeXT (but not unix)..I've gor a Color Station > (non turbo) running NS 3.3 > > After the upgrade to 3.3 from 2.1 whenever I ask the machine to > power off, it does but immediatly powers back up again.... > Hey, I didn't expect to see this FAQ again. Apple really seems to rejuvenate the community ;-) There is a preference (in Preference.app) that tells NEXTSTEP what to do on a power down event. Yours is set power up right after a power down sequence. Go change that setting and everything's ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: <E6D8GD.5Cw@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:07:24 GMT In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > > Being a Cube user where I can put the Cube underneath the table, > I'm a bit annoyed with the loud noise that came from a turbo color > station that I have to put on top of the table (because the monitor > cable is very short :( > > So: > - is it possible to reduce the fan sound ? replace with > a quieter one ? > - or, is there an extention cable so I can put the station > underneath the table ? Similar to the long monitor cable > for the cubes. I believe the connector is 13W2. > > I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug > the fan and the whole noise gone ;) > Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop (like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: memory upgrade Message-ID: <E6D8q3.5DK@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 13:13:14 GMT In article <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> "Yuris O. Fuentes" <yuris@Unforgettable.com> writes: > hi there, > > I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to > post my question in this Newsgroup... > > I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). > Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical > memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error > messages : > 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' > 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' > there's a bunch of addresses here and there > > Am I missing something important? > should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? > You have got a timing error or a warm up flaw in some of the added memory. The only way to cope with this is to boot verbosely and then switch SIMMs until you identified the culprit. Some known to work spare SIMMs would come handy... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6Dvx1.Er1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 21:34:13 GMT References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <gn5kuxK00iWZ8533E1@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <gn5kuxK00iWZ8533E1@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > >Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard >cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor >is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. > 13W3 cables are still pretty standard. We bought some new IBM hardware last fall and they came with these connectors on both the monitors and on the display adapters. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT Optical Drive innards Message-ID: <1997Feb27.103516.459@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Organization: Disorganization References: <E68pBJ.KLA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 10:35:16 GMT In <E68pBJ.KLA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans wrote: > I was poking around inside my non-working optical drive (can't exactly make > it worse, can I) Just a note about OD-Drives: In my experience, the dust problem which is often mentioned here on the net, is often not the reason for non-working ODs. It seems that over the time the laser is failing or degrading. Also the mechanics are quite simple, there is not much to adjust. There is a very fine metal-band which controls the stepmotor, this must be dust-free but should not be touched as it is extremely sensitive to be destroyed. I'm not sure why the laser is degrading over the time. It seems that normal CD drives usually don't have problems with the laser. I also don't see a solution other than replacing the laser.
From: jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. Hendry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 1 Mar 1997 23:58:50 GMT Organization: OneNet Communications HUB News Server Message-ID: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> I have a NeXT mono megapixel monitor, N4000A (with microphone, not the funky last model). It went unused for several months, and when I finally plugged it back into a machine, I found that there was a problem. The machine (a cube) failed the sound check on boot. I could get around that and get the machine to boot. Once booted, the machine would lock up completely. I later noticed this was happening when it tried to play a sound (and probably at other times as well). I could force it to lock up by selecting a new beep in Preferences. Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot somehow. Has anyone seen this? Is it possible to fix it? Should I risk cannibalizing my working monitor for sound hardware? The working monitor is really old, one of the heavy pre-microphone models. The broken monitor has a better picture, so I'd like to use it instead. Thanks, Jon (PS: My net feed is supposed to terminate today, so I may not be reachable by email. Just post a response, and I'll catch it with DejaNews.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Black hardware sppedup question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6E3Lw.D2o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 00:20:20 GMT References: <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5f9s1r$ogj@pixar.com>, John Anderson <jba@news.pixar.com> wrote: >Hello, > >I'v got a color station (non turbo)... > >thia may be a terribly naive thought, but can I just replace the CPU and chrystal to 33Mhz? > No. The rest of the chipset won't like it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing from OS4.1(Intel) to HP LazerJet 5L? Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:30:11 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5fal73$cq8$1@shadow.skypoint.net> We have a dull boot Intel box with OpenStep 4.1 and NT Workstation 4.0. We are looking for a printer that will work with both O.S.'s Anyone have any experience printing from OpenStep 4.1 (Intel) to a HP LazerJet 5L printer? Can it be served to a NeXTStep/OpenStep network using the OpenStep (Intel) installation as a server? All comments welcome, thank you. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 2 Mar 1997 01:33:27 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5fald7$oet@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> Cc: paul@spectrum.slu.edu In <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > last time I bought an EP-S cartridge at Comp-USA, they had a cross reference computer-terminal thing in the aisle that listed the NeXT Laser printer, and they looked it up and just handed me the correct item. this was i manhattan, I don't know if all Comp-USA's are equal. Off the top of my head*, I think LJ-II and LJ-III cartridges work. -rick *disclamer- the top of my head has been known to be wrong in the past.
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with next ADB mouse Date: 2 Mar 1997 00:54:59 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5faj53$59q@ttacs7.ttu.edu> Keywords: mouse i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. i would like to open the mouse and clean it. how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but the mouse won't come apart.) any help is appreciated. thanks in advance. hs
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed Date: 2 Mar 1997 03:19:22 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5farjq$ooq@news2.cais.com> References: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> In-Reply-To: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> OPENSTEP/Mach currently does not support multiple CPUs. You can run OPENSTEP/Mach on a dual-cpu Pentium Pro but only one processor will be active. OPENSTEP/Rhapsody will support SMP multi-processing in the future. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: "Jinhyeok Jeong" <salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OS4.1 support IBM TP560? Date: 2 Mar 1997 05:41:18 GMT Organization: Seoul National Univ. Computer Engineering Department Message-ID: <01bc26cc$6a249ee0$df7c7ea8@gong.snu.ac.kr> NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that beta driver for NS 3.3 will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang/
From: root@localhost (Charlie Root) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? Date: 2 Mar 1997 06:43:31 GMT Organization: KAIWAN Internet (310-527-4279,818-756-0180,909-785-9712,714-638-4133,805-294-9338) Message-ID: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it appears. The console screen displays the following message when an optical disk is inserted in the drive: od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a replacement? Regards, -- # mark miller # markm@kaiwan.com (NeXTmail ok)
From: Buddy Cox <buddyc@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 14:47:03 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <33077247.1F2D@ibm.net> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? A 3mm ball-headed socket will do the trick.
From: "" <santafe@mx.tcp-ip.or.jp> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 16:49:07 +0900 Organization: Tokai Communication Platform Network Message-ID: <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp> I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card?
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 10:06:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm170-24.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fbjfh$54b$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Here is another reply to my question about NeXT monitors on Macs. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. Power Macs have broad VGA and VESA support as well, which will likely support your frequencies, though the resolutions you're after ride upon how much VRAM you've got to back them up. Of course, a sync-on-green requirement isn't the only thing that may render your display incompatible without an adapter.
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed Date: 2 Mar 1997 10:57:36 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5fbmf0$1em@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> In-Reply-To: <3318F35C.13EE@isosun.ariadne-t.gr> On 03/02/97, kostas polonifis wrote: > I curently have a pentium which i think to upgrate in a dual CPU machine > pentium or P-Pro. > > Can any body tell me if the OS supports dual CPU?? > No, it does not. The plan is that it will eventually, however it's probably not worth buying a dual CPU system to run it yet. Best wishes, mmalc. --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Wei Liu <liu@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> Subject: BNC to VGA cable Message-ID: <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> Sender: news@info.physics.utoronto.ca (System Administrator) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Organization: University of Toronto Date: Sat, 1 Mar 1997 15:45:29 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HI, there: Does anyone know there is such a cable to connect NEXT monitor with RGB BNC connectors to PC's VGA vedio card? Thanks for info. Wei
From: "Ken Conlon" <Kenbug@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 2 Mar 1997 18:44:39 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... Louis Johnson <ad651@freenet.hamilton.on.ca> wrote in article <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>... > Distribution: > > > wow what a newsgroup list. > > anyway, basically, any CPU since way back in the old days > fetches a program instruction from the program in memory, > then looks thru its instruction set to find out what > gates to open, signals to issue, how long to wait etc. > so, with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions > for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media > processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for > MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting > MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! > > n.b.: RISC processors like those found in laser > printers work faster because even though they have > a 'Reduced Instruction Set' (Computer), well, they dont need > the missing instructions anyway so the look up process > happens faster. > > > Michele Chubirka (animat@erols.com) wrote: > : Okay, > > : Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've > : started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a > : programmer. > > : Michele > > : On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" <Jeff_Chapman@Wolfe.net> > : wrote: > > : > > : > > : >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article > : ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... > : >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > : >> > : >> > : >> > > : >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, <snip> > : > > : >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... > : >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an > : >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? > : > > > > -- > > >feel free to add your flame response in the space provided: > _ > |_| > >
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:31:13 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm102-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fcki1$cql$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Yet another response to my question in Mac newsgroups. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article <howdy-ya02408000R0203970021510001@news.flash.net>, howdy@wasteland.net (Captain Howdy) wrote: > In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > > > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a PowerMac. Is that > > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have > built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier > Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an > early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. No, no, no, no! With the PCI Power Macs, Apple has dropped support for sync-on-green monitors. ONLY the NuBus Macs support it (which includes the 8100/7100/6100 Power Mac family, I think). I have a Radius TPC/21 and a PM 8500/120. I have searched high and low for a PCI display board that will support this sync-on-green monitor. Only two have I found, but there may be others: Radius' PrecisionColor 8/1600 v2 (the "v2" is VERY important -- it is the revision of the board that supports sync-on-green monitors); and Number Nine Technology's Imagine 128 for Macintosh. (If you buy the Imagine 128, you will probably have to order -- for free -- the firmware ROM upgrade, and download their latest control panel to get it working properly). I purchased the Imagine 128 (4MB) board. It faired best in MacWorld's accelerated-video board comparisons (although MacWorld didn't mention what boards support sync-on-green; shame on them!) It comes in a 4MB and an 8MB version. If you want lots of colors on that large display, look at the 8MB board. Several mail-order houses have discontinued this board. Only MacConnection had it (US$299 for the 4MB board). The Monitors and Sound control panel says that it is currently driving my monitor at 1152 x 870 at 75 HZ. The manual says that it also supports: 640 x 480 @60, 67, 75, and 100HZ 800 x 600 @60, 75, and 100HZ 832 x 624 @75Hz 1024 x 768 @60, 72, 75, and 100HZ 1152 x 870 @75, 80, and 100Hz 1280 x 960 @75, and 80Hz 1280 x 1024 @75, and 80Hz 1600 x 1200 @65, 72, and 75Hz Of course some of these resolutions are available only on the 8MB board. Whatever board you buy, insist on a 30-day money-back guarantee. There are no sure bets when it comes to matching an odd monitor with any display card. Ask to speak to a supervisor if the sales person on the phone won't give you the 30 DMBG. It worked for me. And I sure needed that 30 days to tweek everything (and upgrade the firmware and control panel) to make it work properly. Any chance there's one more monitor available? What size is the display? E-mail me if there's some possibility of getting one for me... Good luck. Enjoy, Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: BNC to VGA cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6FJGz.JC2@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 1997 19:00:35 GMT References: <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33184F19.2ADA@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca>, Wei Liu <liu@geophy.physics.utoronto.ca> wrote: >HI, there: > >Does anyone know there is such a cable to connect NEXT monitor with RGB >BNC connectors to PC's VGA vedio card? You can order them from a lot of computer stores. I bought one here at our campus store for $35 Canadian. Just ask for a VGA->5BNC cable. Depending on the withitness of the staff you might have to hand-hold them through their cable supplier's catalogue, but you should be able to find it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: 2 Mar 1997 19:58:09 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I'm looking for PC vendors who know how to configure Intel-based PCs for multiple Unix operating systems. Does anyone know of any vendors that can configure PCs compatible with (a) Linux, (b) Solaris x86, and (c) Openstep for Mach? If they can do these three, they'll probably also be able to do FreeBSD/NetBSD, but I only actually care about those three. One that I happened to notice is http://www.apache.com/ . Are there others? Is there a list somewhere? Better yet, are there any articles comparing them, like the many comparisons in the popular magazines for normal PC vendors (who usually don't know anything about these OSes)? Apache seems to know their stuff, and their web-based system configuration is much more detailed than that offered by the big 3 direct-market vendors (Gateway, Dell, Micron, who know nothing about component selection for compatibility with the above OSes), allowing you to choose different kinds of memory, specific motherboards, many SCSI controllers, etc. Still, their prices for a similarly equiped 200MHz Pentium Pro / SCSI system seemed on cursory glance about 40% higher than Gateway (~ $3500 vs. ~ $2500), which is too high a premium, especially when you consider that the components used by these big vendors usually become so common that drivers are soon written for them for just about every OS. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Nathan Whitt" <logy@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 20:41:30 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? detroit@mail.utexas.edu
From: "Nathan Whitt" <logy@mail.utexas.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Mouse with a Mac (sorry if this is a repeat) Date: 2 Mar 1997 20:50:19 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <01bc274b$63e1bca0$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> NOTE: I might have already posted this, but my news server seems a little wacky today. Forgive me if I am repeating myself I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? detroit@mail.utexas.edu
From: larsen@math.upenn.edu (Michael Larsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SyJet Date: 2 Mar 1997 21:50:56 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5fcso0$u35@netnews.upenn.edu> Has anyone successfully used a SyJet drive with black hardware? Michael Larsen
From: "Mark Bakarich, regular guy." <bakarich@u.arizona.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 08:27:30 -0700 Organization: University of Arizona Message-ID: <33199C62.12B58A5F@u.arizona.edu> References: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: testor Karl Pfleger wrote: > > I'm looking for PC vendors who know how to configure Intel-based PCs for > multiple Unix operating systems. [snip] > Apache seems to know their stuff, and their web-based system configuration > is much more detailed than that offered by the big 3 direct-market vendors > (Gateway, Dell, Micron, who know nothing about component selection for > compatibility with the above OSes), allowing you to choose different kinds > of memory, specific motherboards, many SCSI controllers, etc. Still, their > prices for a similarly equiped 200MHz Pentium Pro / SCSI system seemed on > cursory glance about 40% higher than Gateway (~ $3500 vs. ~ $2500), which is > too high a premium, especially when you consider that the components used by > these big vendors usually become so common that drivers are soon written for > them for just about every OS. Try getting the tech-weenies at Gateway to support your favorite Unix environment: "Linux, ... uhhh? Is this a program your running under windows 95?" Your choice should be based on your own technical competence. You can save $1000 by being your own tech support. If you're up for it, it's a big savings. The more exotic your hardware though, the better off you are paying for tech support. I'd have no qualms about justifying it for the high end stuff. Getting up and running in 30 minutes after delivery versus two weeks of tracing down patches and drivers, phone support from three different vendors trying to nail down the problem with whatever motherboard and card combo the mfgr cobbled together. Not again! Any good tech can slap together a PC system and load win95/NT or even Linux, Slowlaris or Openstep on to and make it boot. But flushing out the interactions of OS, BIOS, memory, SCSI adapters, video, sound and network cards takes considerably more skill. This is one of the reasons you see narrower choices in accessories; these accessories work well and we know their quirks. You also see people doing it themselves - "I'm looking for a motherboard/video/sound/network/scsi adapter that is well supported under Linux/NT/Slolaris/Openstep." Some one in the Linux camp decided to put together a 'Aviod these components' web page. Just beware that it's your time that you're trading for the money. -- Regards, -------- Mark Bakarich, Engineer, Tucson Arizona
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What's the latest lowdown on PPro MBs, Video, & OPENSTEP. Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:38:28 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> Hi all, I'm putting together a system for an OPENSTEP convert/friend :) Before I go off and buy the wrong items, I'm hoping some folks with experience can help me avoid any pitfalls. I really have just two questions. First off, I want the Motherboard to support Omni's Pentium Pro Video Enhancement driver. So it should support both Write Posting and Write Combining. So I guess Question #1 is, what are the best Pentium Pro Motherboards out that will work with the Omni driver under OPENSTEP? I think Natoma, and Orion chipsets work. Are there others that are that are new/better and work with Omni's driver? And my other question has to do with a video card. I would like to get a video card that supports multiple monitors at 1600X1200@24bpp. I know that the 8Mb #9 Imagine 128 will do this, but it's still very expensive. I believe the Matrox Millenium will support multiple monitors, but the Driver documentation seems to omit resolutions of 1600X1200@24bpp (the highest resolution at 24bpp listed is 1280x1024@24bpp(8MB+)). So I gues Question #2 is, are there any video cards (other than the 8Mb VRAM #9 Imagine 128) that will support multiple monitors at a resolution of 1600X1200@24bpp (it would be an added bonus if the card had 3D acceleration of some sort) under OPENSTEP? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:32:05 -0500 Subject: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... 1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo slab) 2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and put it in a new color-turb-slab? The printer will "just work" as I understand it (even though it is B&W and the new NeXT would be color). Anything else I should know while considering this move? TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702271447.JAA07921@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 1229e1966c418bb40c20389e3c2d5f76 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 09:47:51 -0500 Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 1229e1966c418bb40c20389e3c2d5f76 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Original Date: 26 Feb 1997 10:18:31 -0800 > Good luck. PC hardware can be problematic at best. <sarcasm> Geez, wouldn't it be nice if someone made a computer dedicated specifically to NeXTStep so we wouldn't have to go through this hassle. </sarcasm> # note: that sarcasm is not directed at _anyone_ I don't really think # that anyone @next.com wanted to stop making their incredibly good # hardware..... I hate disclaimers, they take all the fun from life Anyway, FWIW Having asked just yesterday about opinions about getting a "new" turbo-color slab or an Intel, I got about 30 responses, with the same motif: - the turbo-color slab is very old, and Intels will be much faster - the turbo-color slab with "just work" and the Intels will be a pain in the padded-area I also got a LOT of responses about people hoping that Rhapsody will come with more of the "just works" setup. TjL
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitor on Mac Date: 2 Mar 1997 22:49:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm283-17.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fd065$60p$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Why didn't I crospost the question? Well, next time. Here is another response Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability In article <voicebox-0203971025250001@dnai-207-33-180-234.dialup.dnai.com>, voicebox@dnai.com (DaveC) wrote: > In article <howdy-ya02408000R0203970021510001@news.flash.net>, > howdy@wasteland.net (Captain Howdy) wrote: > > > In article <5f8d4h$pbk$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > > > > > I would like to connect a green-on-sync color monitor to a > PowerMac. Is that > > > doable? Are there some special video cards, or could I just build some > > > adapter and set up a standard card to the following settings? > > > > > > 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz > > > 1120x832 pixels and 72Hz > > > > Yes, every Macintosh computer since the first AV's were introduced have > > built-in sync-on-green support. Actually, even many of the earlier > > Macintoshes supported it too, but not without the Basic Color Monitor (an > > early, sync-on-green Apple unit) extension, available online. > > No, no, no, no! With the PCI Power Macs, Apple has dropped support for > sync-on-green monitors. ONLY the NuBus Macs support it (which includes the > 8100/7100/6100 Power Mac family, I think). Er, yes, I stand corrected. I was actually recollecting exactly in the inverse: the AV's were the first to REMOVE sync-on-green support. Sorry. NO Power Macs support sync-on-green, and if fact most of the latter-day NuBus units (Quadra's and the lack cannot either, though there are several exceptions). However, it is still possible to hook up a sync-on-green monitor without buying expensive hardware to support it. The trick lies is relying upon another monitor to configure the sync to PRAM beforehand. Whether the following works depends on what monitor you have, of course. If you happen to have a non-SOG multiple scan display able to synchronize to 640 x 480 at 60Hz, you could then use it to set up a higher resolution, such as 1024 x 768, assuming the monitor is capable. Once the higher resolution was set, you could disconnect the multiscan display and connect the non-Apple display. Then the computer would start using the new video scan rate each time the computer is powered on, because it will typically use the former sync. The computer only starts up at 1280 x 1024 (or whatever) scan rates after you set the Monitors control panel and the settings are stored in PRAM. With no setup information in PRAM, the computer starts at the best scan rate and resolution for the detected display (usually 640 x 480). If you do not have an Apple display to use for setup, you can use the following workaround to set the Monitors control panel to the 60Hz scan rate. Workaround ========== Step 1 ------ Using a display adaptor, set the display type to VGA/SVGA. (This would be setting 'G' for the commonly-used MacLiberty video adaptor from Enhance Cable Technology, available through the MacMall catalog reseller). Starting up the Macintosh computer with the display adaptor attached between the display and the Macintosh video port starts by default at 640x480 at 60Hz resolution. Step 2 ------ Open the Monitors control panel. Normally, the Options button therein only allows safe operating resolutions. Step 3 ------ Hold down the Option key on the keyboard when you select the Options button in the Monitors control panel. The options panel now also shows unprotected scan rates that the video card supports. Step 4 ------ You can select the 1280x1024 @ 60Hz scan rate from the list. The video scan rate changes, depending on whether you have selected Rearrange on Close or Rearrange on Restart on the bottom of the Monitors control panel window. Step 5 ------ If you have selected Rearrange on Close and you select a scan rate currently not supported by an Apple display, you are prompted with a dialog box that asks if the monitor display is correct. The dialog only appears if you select an unprotected scan rate. If you do not select the OK button within about 10 seconds, the system assumes that you do not have a properly synchronized display and reverts back to the previous scan rate. Following the above procedure, you should be able to set your display to the 1280 x 1024 at 60Hz resolution and scan rate (or whatever combo you were looking for). Note that under Mac OS 7.6, and also when using the Monitors & Sound control panel, the system was designed to remove non-supported resolutions and scan rates, so the above workaround is unlikely to work in that event. Ever wondered why most monitors don't demand to sync on green anymore? Good luck.
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for Black cabling, etc. Date: 2 Mar 1997 15:29:45 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.857345251@idiom.com> Well, I finally got myself a really nice Anthro console that's big enough to put three NeXT stations side by side, and I'm wiring them up. I was wondering if anyone knows where to find black power strips, 10-baseT cables, SCSI cables, etc. Trying to maintain a sense of *style*, -jcr
From: Jeff Trestrail <trail@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC CDR-510 Compatible w/ NS 3.3 Intel ?? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 19:22:28 -0500 Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA Message-ID: <331A19C4.3840@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I tried this afternoon to install NS 3.3 Intel, using an NEC CDR-510 SCSI cdrom on a VLB Buslogic controller. The install would start ok, but would stop at various points in the process with I/O errors and halt. When I switched to a Toshiba XM-4101BME SCSI cdrom, everything worked fine (though slower). The NEC drive worked fine on the same machine under DOS, WinNT 3.5, and Linux. Is this a known incompatability, or do I have some strange hardware configuration problem ? Thanks in advance. Jeff Trestrail trail@iserv.net trail@ix.netcom.com
From: "Allen R. Douglas" <adouglas@jorsm.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Sun, 02 Mar 1997 21:40:50 -0600 Organization: University of Chicago Message-ID: <331A483F.63E3@jorsm.com> References: <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card? I just tried installing 3.3 to see what would happen, with no luck. I believe that the scsi controller is the issue there (not suprising), and also how a drive partition is recognized. Perhaps 4.1 or 4.2 has an answer. If anyone has an idea ( I haven't looked for a compatible driver yet), please pass it along! Allen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Message-ID: <cdoutyE6G9us.FDC@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 04:30:28 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom16.netcom.com In article <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing > about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo > slab) All '040 NeXTs use the same serial port. I just spent way too much time making up some serial cables out of Mac-to-Imagewriter-II cables. (Wired 'em backwards the first time. :-| ) >2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and > put it in a new color-turb-slab? Yeah, probably. The windowserver knows how to drive mono and color NeXTs. Just a question, are you actually booting off that 105? If you can afford a bigger/faster drive it might be well worth it to switch or keep the 105 as swap space. You would need an external box though. Enjoy. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP opening NeXT ADB mouse Date: 3 Mar 1997 05:06:27 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fdm8j$aab@ttacs7.ttu.edu> i have an adb mouse and sometimes the left mouse button sticks when pressed. i have to click the button again to release it. i would like to open the mouse and clean it. how do i open the mouse? (i removed the two screws that are visible but the mouse won't come apart.) any help is appreciated. thanks in advance. hs
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 06:26:25 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> Hi all, I see with the new PentiumPro motherboards some new memory types have come out. Now as I used to understand things, it was better to have Parity memory than EDO. i.e. w/ L2 cache the EDO memory was only marginally faster, yet didn't have any parity features. Now with PPro motherboards I see all kinds of mishmashed terms. Now I've heard of EDO parity memory. I've also heard that regular parity memory would be used as ECC memory. And yet some memory is sold ad ECC memory. What is the fastest form of memory that offers error correction? Also, these systems still use 72pin memory, yet I've heard of new 136pin memory. What is the difference, and which should I go for. Sorry if this isn't the best place to post for these questions...if anyone knows of a more appropriate forum, please let me know and I'll redirect my ignorance to the proper locale :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: zyendarr@ix.netcom.com (Zyendarr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC CDR-510 Compatible w/ NS 3.3 Intel ?? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 07:27:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <331a7730.795994@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <331A19C4.3840@ix.netcom.com> Jeff Trestrail <trail@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >I tried this afternoon to install NS 3.3 Intel, using >an NEC CDR-510 SCSI cdrom on a VLB Buslogic controller. >The install would start ok, but would stop at various points in the >process with I/O errors and halt. When I switched to a >Toshiba XM-4101BME SCSI cdrom, everything worked fine (though >slower). The NEC drive worked fine on the same machine under >DOS, WinNT 3.5, and Linux. >Is this a known incompatability, or do I have some strange >hardware configuration problem ? >Thanks in advance. > >Jeff Trestrail >trail@iserv.net >trail@ix.netcom.com NEC CD-ROM would NOT work well under any OS/machine that was not listed on the manual or box; as far as I know. I have used 3 NEC CD-ROM drives (3Xi, 4Xc, and other quad speed external one), and all of them don't work under Sparc and NeXT (I tested on mono slab and cube). Moreover, two of them (3Xi and 4Xc) don't work with the Adaptec SCSI2 card even on intel-PC. (If anyone knows how to setup, please let me know.) 4Xc works ONLY when there is another SCSI device connected between adaptec and 4Xc. NEC web or FAQ? They are just for "common" PC based stuff. If you call NEC, like I did, for support, they will just say "We don't support ANY Unix machine nor OS other than native PC's!" Also, even if you are using those PC native OS's, they NEVER support for SCSI cards that are not certified by NEC. I even asked, "Why my 4Xc doesn't work directly with adaptec AHA 2940UW even on my PC? I followed every single step on the FAQ." Guess what they said. (There's actually nothing they can say.) Customer support said, "Well, actually, NEC uses some special structure for enhanced features, and it's not compatible with adaptec cards." What *enhanced* feature? Nothing; as far as I know. If so, it's not a standard SCSI at all since most of their CD-ROM's don't work under special (as they say) setup. Also, if it's adaptec's problem, then why all other SCSI devices work just fine on adaptec? What the &#(%! I'm using AppleCD 600e on my NeXT. It works just fine without any trouble. Also, many Toshiba CD-ROM's will work too (I tried 4 different kind of them on my NeXT; they were just fine.) Just sell it out, and get the simple standard SCSI CD-ROM that does *NOT* have special(?) feature. I heard that there are few old NEC models working on NeXT. But I believe that getting other brand is far easier than set it up. Good luck. Zyendarr@ix.netcom.com
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:19:56 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39706.thr-70e61558.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp> <331A483F.63E3@jorsm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39706.thr-70e61558.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>adouglas@jorsm.com,UseNet writes:</bold> >I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out >the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 >with a DOS compatibility card? >I just tried installing 3.3 to see what would happen, with no luck. I >believe that the scsi controller is the issue there (not suprising), and >also how a drive partition is recognized. Perhaps 4.1 or 4.2 has an >answer. If anyone has an idea ( I haven't looked for a compatible >driver yet), please pass it along! I seriously doubt you'll get that to work. The DOS compatibility card tricks DOS into recognizing a file on the Mac drive as its "C" drive. That's fine, but Openstep wants a partition that it can format in its own proprietary format, and it will want to write to the boot blocks of the drive so that you can select DOS or openstep at boot time. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 07:24:19 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39707.thr-d3b09b7c.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39707.thr-d3b09b7c.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>jkheit@cnj.digex.net,UseNet writes:</bold> >Also, these systems still use 72pin memory, yet I've heard of new >136pin memory. What is the difference, and which should I go for. John- The new memory is a DIMM (Dual Inline Memory Module) and essentially amounts to two SIMMs on the same card (that's a little simplified). Most new Macs at least use DIMMs and not SIMMs, allowing you to upgrade one bank at a time instead of two at a time. I believe there are speed advantages still to upgrading in pairs. I have no idea what to prefer on the PC side of the fence. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 27 Feb 97 22:41:13 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF3BBE0D-17E064@207.147.50.254> References: <msg39040.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 7:52 PM, David Herren <mailto:herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: > Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx in my desk and had > to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 97 08:14:30 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> In-reply-to: John Kheit's message of 3 Mar 1997 06:26:25 GMT In article <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net>, John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: I see with the new PentiumPro motherboards some new memory types have come out. Now as I used to understand things, it was better to have Parity memory than EDO. i.e. w/ L2 cache the EDO memory was only marginally faster, yet didn't have any parity features. Now with PPro motherboards I see all kinds of mishmashed terms. Now I've heard of EDO parity memory. I've also heard that regular parity memory would be used as ECC memory. And yet some memory is sold ad ECC memory. What is the fastest form of memory that offers error correction? Believe me, if the memory really was ECC memory (and not handled by the chipset), you'd know. Real ECC memory costs like two or three times as much as plain-old plain-old. Broadly, there's FPM, EDO, and SDRAM as memory types, from worst to best in performance. On top of that, you can have parity versions of each, and modern PPro and Pentium chipsets do ECC using the parity bits. [Since the ECC uses 8 bits per 64 bits of memory, there are also modules which can do ECC but _can't_ do parity.] Lastly, there is SIMM (72-pin, install in pairs) vs DIMM (13x pin, install singly). Generally available are plain FPM SIMMs, FPM with parity SIMMs, EDO SIMMs, and SDRAM DIMMs. But you can get EDO DIMMs in a number of places, and EDO with parity in a number of places. I've not seen SDRAM with parity, probably because there aren't all that many customers for it. If it's not clear whether it's parity or not, you can generally look to the numbers the vendor quotes - things like 8/16/32 are non-parity, 9/18/36 are parity. The main problem (to my mind) with parity is that it doesn't do most people one bit of good unless their OS has some sort of recovery procedures. Without parity, if there's an error (and they are generally infrequent), you never notice it. With parity, you can potentially notice it - but if your operating system just crashes, or perhaps crashes with a graceful message, it didn't really buy you much. [Anyone know how NeXTSTEP handles parity errors?] EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so is only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a premium, and SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two DIMM slots, and commonly available modules only go to 32M, which really limits your memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available with PentiumPro motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Lutz Heinrichs <hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Distribution: world Message-ID: <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:18:28 +0000 References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.100) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon <Kenbug@ix.netcom.com> writes: Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... [snip] Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need MMX for :) Lutz -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Lutz Heinrichs e-mail..: hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de Aachen, Germany voice...: +49 2408 5544 fax.....: +49 2408 5543 Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ADB Mouse with a Mac (sorry if this is a repeat) Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 01:40:28 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <331AFEF2.64D9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bc274b$63e1bca0$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Nathan Whitt <logy@mail.utexas.edu> Nathan Whitt wrote: > > NOTE: I might have already posted this, but my news server seems a little > wacky today. Forgive me if I am repeating myself > > I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? > > detroit@mail.utexas.edu Yes, It works Great on my PowerMac !!! younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: jmosher@think.com (Jessica Mosher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best notebook for 3.2 Intel? Date: 3 Mar 1997 13:26:32 -0500 Organization: Newsgate Sender: root@bone.think.com Message-ID: <9703031826.AA11021@thoon.think.com> Subject says it all--could someone mail me suggestions for the best make/model of a pentium or i486 notebook, with color, for NS 3.2? "Best" is defined as: --installs without any problems --good manufacturer warranty and support --good active matrix color screen It would be nice, although certainly very secondary, if this notebook was black colored. Price, for now, is no object. If there's a web site somewhere, pleasse feel free to send me its address. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jessica L. Mosher Thinking Machines Corporation Systems Support Engineer c/o American Express "Forget about World Peace...Visualize Using Your Turn Signal!" -Unknown, seen on a bumper sticker ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jmosher@Think.COM Pager: 1-800-946-4646 pin: 8014486
From: stefan.boehringer@rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Stefan Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 3 Mar 1997 18:31:17 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <msg39004.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> # is anybody out there running a # ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI # # under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. # I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD # Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or # flimmering screen). # Can anybody help me? # Thanks in advance! me too! - Stefan
From: tlm@ameslab.gov (Dr. T. L. Marchioro II) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 07:45:00 GMT Organization: Ames Laboratory Message-ID: <5f62ds$pq5@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: blazek@stt.msu.edu Rudolf B. Blazek wrote: > In <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > <snip snip snip> > > > > So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is > > I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting > > an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd > > want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed > > (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than > > 57600? I don't even know what controls that). > > > > <snip snip> > > > > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > > > > > > <snip> > > > > Hello, > > I am in a similar situation. I am a student too, I have 25MHz NeXTstation > color with similar limitation as yours (plus color rendering overhead). > <+etc.> > So, the answer for me is: get the Color Turbo, ADB and wait. The NeXT station > will do a lot of work in the future, i.e. printer server for my NeXT printer > and so on and so forth. > Well, I can perhaps weigh in on this one from a point of experience. On the one hand: About six months ago I sold a couple of machines (a nice old cube and SOB my original NeXTstation from back in 1990) so that I could upgrade to a color turbo. Typing on it at this moment. It runs just fine, particularly with a RAM upgrade. I paid ~$1500 for it, plus RAM, plus monitor (a 20 inch sony from Sam Goldberger) and think I got a great deal. Of course, had I waited just two months until the CIA decided to clear house, I could have sold my two machines, had roughly the same one I have now, and cleared $500 or more. Nontheless, it's a good deal. The color Turbo is not only faster in terms of CPU, it seems to have a much better graphics card. Surfing the WEB ain't speedy, but it's definitely more than 1/3 faster on my mono machines. I have some friends who know Mooseman and they speak quite highly of him.... so, if cash is a limiting factor I strongly encourage you to buy a $600 or $750 Color Turbo. Won't set the world on fire, but definitely makes for a nice upgrade that will keep you happy until graduation. On the other hand: I myself have "come up in the world" of late, making a better salary than expected since moving back to Seattle. Largely due to some contract work at the "Evil Empire" (I know, I know.... but the storm troopers are less prevalent than you'd think :) and some other lucky breaks. So, while not rich, I'm reasonably cash flush and decided to spring for a pentium system. Got a pretty good deal on a P166 with 1.7 Gig drive, 17" monitor, 12X CD-ROM, etc. etc. Am in the process of setting up multiple partitions for NT, NeXTstep, and Linux and I can honestly say it's a mile ahead of the Turbo. Will be even better with a little more RAM. Look... like all things true "market pricing" is making it to computing. In the late 70s and even up to the mid 80s you could still find "deals" on California wines, a $6 bottle that was to die for, but no one had heard about. Once the market really took off it quickly became the case that a $7 bottle of wine was, as a rule, not as good as a $10 bottle of wine. Similarly with computers. The PC market is extremely competitive, and as long as you don't walk into a shop, point at an IBM Stealth and say "I want that because it's black" (thus paying full MSRP) you can get a very good deal at a price that represents what you're getting. In this sense Mooseman's color turbos are a good deal (sudden high supply in a market where the demand is limited) but the $2K or so that a good pentium box (without the latest marketing ploy, MMX) sets you back definitely buys you a better machine. If I were still a student I'd go with the Color Turbo for a year or so until my "disposable income" was a little more disposable. Hope this proves helpful --- Tom ********** NOTICE CHANGE OF ADDRESS *************** _________________________________________________________________ Dr. Thomas L. Marchioro II Two-wheeled theoretical physicist Depts. of Chemistry and Physics 206-721-0754 (home/FAX) University of Washington 206-713-0326 (Work) Seattle, WA 98195 tlm@borg.phys.washington.edu Project Coordinator: Undergraduate Computational Engineering and Sciences http://uces.ameslab.gov/ _________________________________________________________________
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From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster PnP Config Problems Date: 28 Feb 1997 06:38:21 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Message-ID: <5f5ugt$qhc1@crash.videotron.ab.ca> On 02/22/97, Dale & wrote: > >I can't seem to get OPENSTEP to recognize my SoundBlaster 16 PnP. I've >installed the lastest drivers for SoundBlaster, EISABus etc. >Has anyone gotten this card to work with OPENSTEP? I havn't tried it with OS, but I just did it today under NS 3.3. The tricks were revealed in a post by Rakesh Dubey from Next that I found in the c.s.n.hardware archives. Here's what I did: - newest EISA driver and SB16 PnP driver - enable PnP in the EISA driver via Config.app - check in /usr/adm/messages for the boot-time PnP messages, and take note of the PnP ID of the SB card. Here's an example: Feb 27...mach: available memory = 28.72 megabytes. vm_page_free_count = e5d Feb 27...mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Feb 27...mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Feb 27...mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Feb 27...mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL0070 s/n 0xffffffff The CTL0070 is what matters. Edit this into Instance0.table in /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16.config in the line that says: "Auto Detect IDs" = "CTL0070"; In my case, the ID in the standard version of the instance table didn't match the above ID, and that prevented the card from being registered correctly. With this fixed, it works fine (OK, fine for a Sound Blaster). Hope it works for you. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
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From: tyf@primenet.com (TinYau Fung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sample Intel Setup Posted Date: 3 Mar 1997 14:54:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <5ffh9p$n00@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Hi, I have created a little summary of what I just went through to load NS3.3 onto an Intel setup. If you are curious to how difficult it's to set it up or want to look for hints to build a good set up, please look at : http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf/nsfip.html And thanks to the other people who have helped me to set my machine up! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- tyf __ __ ____ ___ ___ ____ tyf@primenet.com /__)/__) / / / / /_ /\ / /_ / / / \ / / / / /__ / \/ /___ /
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:47:26 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ffkdu$qd1@news4.digex.net> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net>, you wrote: > EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so > is only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a > premium, and SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two > DIMM slots, and commonly available modules only go to 32M, which > really limits your memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available > with PentiumPro motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). So what would be the ideal? Would it be EDO w/ parity, thus giving me ECC on a PPro motherboard? And what would be better, a 72pin SIMM, or a 136pin DIMM? BTW, a parity error under NS just lets you restart the system. The theory I guess is to not allow data to be further corrupted by being operated on... Thanks for the info! :) Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: 3 Mar 1997 17:26:45 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0303970924220001@mfs-annex1-p24.dsphere.net> References: <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp> In article <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp>, "" <santafe@mx.tcp-ip.or.jp> wrote: >I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in trying out the >NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS >compatibility card? The DOS cards have a custom bios that takes bios calls to the HD and routes them the mac hard disk. Nifty solution. Unfortunately, that only works with DOS based operating systems. "Real" operating systems access the HD controllers directly. Since this controller doesn't actually exist on a DOS card, these operating systems do not work. Basically, there's a reason Apple calls them "DOS compatibility cards" and not "PC compatibility cards" Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 3 Mar 1997 23:22:18 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5ffmfa$h71@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net>, Scott Hess <shess@one.net> wrote: > Lastly, there >is SIMM (72-pin, install in pairs) vs DIMM (13x pin, install singly). DIMMs have 168 pins. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 23:00:40 +0200 Organization: FORTHnet S.A. - HELLENIC TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND TELEMATICS APPLICATIONS COMPANY Message-ID: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or P-PROs)??? -- Bye, Makoulossus (a.k.a. Gerasimos Melissaratos) gmelis@eexi.gr
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: sound options for cube? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 07:28:38 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? Is it also possible that I'm completely blind and that sound is already an option on a cube? Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. It's fairly obvious where ethernet and scsi plug in, I don't yet have the mono monitor I bought but do have the color for the ND board butI don't even know which connector a mono would plug into (my guess is bottom-most port). Which is serial A and serial B? Printer? THanks! -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 4 Mar 1997 01:16:21 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5fft55$31o@news3.digex.net> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) wrote: > Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> writes > > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium > > or P-PROs)??? > Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) Oooh, you nasty teaser you :)))) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 04:49:03 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180>, mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net says... > >On Wed, Feb 26, 1997 10:09 PM, Rudolf B. Blazek <mailto:blazek@stt.msu.edu> >wrote: >> I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When > >> Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am >> getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that >> can >> handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. > >Where are you going to get the adapter that will allow the connection of >the NeXT monitor to the Mac? I have lots of NeXT monitors and lots of >Macs, but they aren't connected together. I would like to pop a 17" NeXT >on everyone's desk. > >I would appreciate the info. > >Mitch > > >--------------------------------------------------------- >Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. >--------------------------------------------------------- > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ?
From: mfuortes@med.cornell.edu (Michele Fuortes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 21:10:04 -0500 Organization: Leuca Software Message-ID: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Hi everybody, I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have the Best of Both World ;-) Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? I don't see intrinsic limitations. I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, monitor etc.etc) I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want to wait for Rhapsody DR. Any ideas? Thanks a lot
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 3 Mar 1997 23:40:25 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> writes > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > P-PROs)??? Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: sound options for cube? Date: 28 Feb 1997 14:10:22 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5f6p0e$suh@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> In-Reply-To: <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> On 02/28/97, David Herren wrote: > What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard > mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for > sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a > non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are > there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? > There are a number of options: The cube itself does 8KHz 8-bit mono Codec A/D and full 16-bit 44kHz stero D/A -- if all you want is good output this should suffice for most purposes. If you need better input, look out for people on csn.marketplace selling MetaResearch's Digital Ears or Singular Solutions' AD64x, both of which plug into the DSP port, and do "professional" A/D (e.g. the latter has AES/EBU i/o and supports up to 8 channels). You might also find an Ariel Digital Microphone, but this is clearly of more restricted use. I hope this helps, Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MOUSE AND KEYBOARD INFO Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 15:57:49 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I bought a Mono ADB Nextstation. The problem is that I am Spanish and the keyboad's keys are in US English. Does anybody knows if a Macintosh keyboard and mouse can be pluged in an ADB NextStation? Thanks in advance Amando Blasco
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Message-ID: <E6HLo5.6xu@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 21:43:16 GMT In article <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> writes: > Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... > > 1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing > about it except that it works wonderfully with my non-turbo > slab) > Serial ports are identical (at least for my non-ADB) > 2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and > put it in a new color-turb-slab? > Sure, but why waste the precious space with such an old piece of iron? > The printer will "just work" as I understand it (even though it is > B&W and the new NeXT would be color). > No difference. > Anything else I should know while considering this move? > Only the 21" screen will make you really happy. And 12 bit color graphics takes six times the memory for screen buffers than 2 bit greyscale. Fortunately the limit for memory upgrades is far less daunting. And since memory is cheap these days... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703030640.BAA03325@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <97Feb27.141414-0700_mst.69977-1+46@chrome.psych.ualberta.ca> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 97 01:40:32 -0500 Subject: SUMMARY : Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Cc: jason@bifrostworks.com References: <97Feb27.141414-0700_mst.69977-1+46@chrome.psych.ualberta.ca> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Last week I posted my query for opinions about whether I should spend $750 on a 21" NeXTStation Turbo Color or put my $$ into an Intel system, indicating what I saw as the pros-and-cons of each. I got almost 40 responses (including a couple people who wrote more than once, etc). Since many responses began with "I'm in the same boat" I thought I would summarize the responses I received: There was a general consensus throughout on these points: NeXT made the best hardware That hardware is now outdated The Moosmann sale (see the 'marketplace' group) is really good, even to spend $750 on a 21" monitor would be good Intels are much better Rolling your own Intel ain't for the faint of heart There was some disagreement as to whether a color-turbo would seem faster or slower than a mono-non-turbo (the advantage being that the turbo could add more RAM.) ####################################################### Stay with NeXT/Get a New NeXT 7 (including 1 horror story of self-made Intel) ####################################################### Wait for Rhapsody (which I didn't list as an option, but several people mentioned) 8 (including 1 horror story of self-made Intel) ####################################################### Get a new Intel if you are going to spend any $$ on NS: 16 (including one who said to expect to spend $3000 for a machine to match the quality of a NeXTStation) What was a little surprising to me, was that 4 of the 16 "Intel" votes said "Get an Intel, and get it from Bifrost Workstations, Inc (http://www.bifrostworks.com/) because it will work "out of the box" like a NeXTStation, and they can design for a budget. People used phrases such as "extremely pleased with the 11 machines I've bought from them" and "excellent prices". That was a full 25% of the Intel-votes, and 10% of all the overall responses (including those who wrote me more than once). So there you have it. I emailed "info@bifrostworks.com" and got a response from "jason@bifrostworks.com" later that same day, and he's been working with me to see what we can do. (I'm going to be in NC next week, so I'll probably stop by to see James Moosmann, who has also been very helpful). I'm still not sure if we'll be able to pull it off, but I've been leaning toward the Intel side since we've been talking. So, for those who are looking a little longer-term, and looking towards the Intel's, I'd recommend Bifrost given the above testimonials and my own limited experience thus far. Thanks again for your comments and suggestions, folks! If you are looking for more info about NeXT hardware, the Moosmann sale, Bifrostworks and other NeXTStep/OpenStep companies, checkout my web pages (spotted with fresh blood sweat and tears ;-) http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ TjL ps -- in case it becomes important.... anyone interested in a mono-non-turbo station with 32RAM, 105 internal HD, printer (2nd toner about 2 months old), L-return keyboard, new Bus mouse&adaptor and "the good monitor"? I might have an unregistered *commercial* copy of 3.2 User/Dev for NeXT/Intel also.
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 28 Feb 97 10:38:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF3C663B-29187@207.147.62.137> References: <wn5bh2C00iWZIHl=EJ@andrew.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Feb 28, 1997 1:29 AM, Charles William Swiger <mailto:cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: > > Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. > > Well, the two tools are roughly similar in size. > However, the NeXTtool shipped with the cube was a 3 mm Allen (hex) > wrench. > > -Chuck You know, Chuck, you are right. I actually opened the Cube in a fairly dark room and I couldn't see the screws real well but I assumed that they were Torx since that's what's used on Macs. I used a Torx screwdriver to open it (a #15 not a #10) and it worked just fine. I went back and looked at it with a flashlight last night. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5f5vlb$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 3 Mar 1997 22:49:51 GMT Control: cancel <5f5vlb$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5f5vlb$bga@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Sender: (DogZ Software Center) Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970303.62. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970303.62.html for complete report. Original Subject: CorelDraw 7! only costs US$40?! Shopping Paradise
From: Thomas Vincent <info@sfbayrun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sample Intel Setup Posted Date: Mon, 03 Mar 1997 20:07:57 -0800 Organization: SFbayrun Internet Message-ID: <331BA01C.1F6C@sfbayrun.com> References: <5ffh9p$n00@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I saw the setup you did for Next on a Intel box. I was wondering, how much did it cost you? Do you run on top of Windows NT? Or can you actually run it on top of a Mach kernel on Intel hardware? TinYau Fung wrote: > > Hi, > I have created a little summary of what I just went through to > load NS3.3 onto an Intel setup. If you are curious to how difficult > it's to set it up or want to look for hints to build a good set up, > please look at : > > http://www-ucsee.eecs.berkeley.edu/~tyf/nsfip.html > > And thanks to the other people who have helped me to set my > machine up! -- Cheers, Thomas Vincent =============== SFbayrun Internet | Easiest Web Site Administration http://www.sfbayrun.com/snet/ | http://www.adgrafix.com/info/tvincent/ --------------------------------------------------------- National High School Cross Country & Track and Field Pages http://www.sfbayrun.com/scholar/ ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Buddy Cox <buddyc@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:14:44 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <330B8964.5C50@ibm.net> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> <3317DBD3.5018@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chi On Ao wrote: > > Thanks to all who have replied to my original post. I got a 3mm Hex > Wrench and opened the cube easily. > > However, in my attempt to upgrade the RAM, I have a hard time removing > exisiting SIMMs from the motherboard. It seemed too challenging for my > clumpsy fingers without some special tool. Could someone who have done > that give me some guidance here? Thank you! > > Chi On NeXT made a SIMM removal tool ... however, they are quite rare these days. Just visit your local hardware store and pick up a dental pick ... sounds strange but it is actually very similar. It has a 90 degree bend at the tip.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Message-ID: <E6Hq6H.4p2@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 23:20:41 GMT In article <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > > > The main problem (to my mind) with parity is that it doesn't do most > people one bit of good unless their OS has some sort of recovery > procedures. Without parity, if there's an error (and they are > generally infrequent), you never notice it. With parity, you can > potentially notice it - but if your operating system just crashes, or > perhaps crashes with a graceful message, it didn't really buy you > much. [Anyone know how NeXTSTEP handles parity errors?] > From what I deciphered from a recent test of PPro boards in the German C'T: some (but very few) boards are able to recover from simple memory errors automatically. What I have learned from NeXT classes: Banks want to have errors fixed automatically, or are willing to go for a complete system crash. They do not want errors propagating into their system (I can imagine why). Old black hardware, equipped with parity memory, will crash on a memory fault. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6I5oz.LAF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 04:55:46 GMT References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71>, Michele Fuortes <mfuortes@med.cornell.edu> wrote: >Hi everybody, > >I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. > Your cube *will* run OPENSTEP for Mach 4.x. However, unless you have it stuffed full of RAM it will be slow. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: neon@azstarnet.com (neon) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 06:58:34 GMT Organization: Starnet Message-ID: <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> I thought the 10 to 15% increase in speed was due to the intenal cache doubling in size from 16k to 32k. When apps are written for MMX then the speed increase will be even greater. AMD's version on MMX is supposed to double the cache again to 64k and should therefore have greater speed right out of the gate. On Mon, 03 Mar 1997 08:18:28 +0000, Lutz Heinrichs <hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de> wrote: >>>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon <Kenbug@ix.netcom.com> writes: > >Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than >Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and >Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens >Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... > >[snip] > >Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not >much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really >noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. >10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see >what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will >surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > >I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo >based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need >MMX for :) > >Lutz >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >Lutz Heinrichs e-mail..: hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de >Aachen, Germany voice...: +49 2408 5544 > fax.....: +49 2408 5543 > > Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot
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From: akim@cogent.net (Andrew Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MEMORY LIMITATION Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:37:10 GMT Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <akim-0403970031580001@mfs-annex1-p5.dsphere.net> I have NeXTstation color unit and have 32MB. What is maximum memory limitation of this unit? I would like to increase more memory, can I ?
From: Simon Karpen <slk@karpes.stu.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.solaris.x86,comp.sys.next.hardware,compunix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit Subject: Re: PC vendors for PCs to run Unix (Linux, Solaris, etc.) Date: 02 Mar 1997 18:46:18 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <m391456enp.fsf@karpes.stu.rpi.edu> References: <5fcm4h$a7t@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I have heard nothing but good things about Net Express http://www.tdl.com/~netex/ They seem to specialize in setting up x86 workstations to run various flavors of Unix, including Linux and Solaris. Don't know about OpenStep/Mach, but they've probably got some experience with it too. -- Simon Karpen karpes@rpi.edu, slk@acm.rpi.edu, slk@karpes.stu.rpi.edu "Down, not Across"
From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 4 Mar 1997 16:19:48 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> Lutz Heinrichs <hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de> writes: >Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not >much. [...] I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX [...] And in doing so would manage to spend more money on a slower processor. The P166MMX would've been a better buy. - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT Color Printer Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:32:24 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Message-ID: <5fhfmb$lmd@news.quicklink.com> References: <tj-2802971402300001@i528.oro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT Color Printer if you are interested. joel@quicklink.com tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: >Let me know what you have. >Thomas
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From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Stuff for Sale! Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:26:39 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Message-ID: <5fhfbj$lmd@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Best Offer NeXT: NeXT laser printers NeXT color printer NeXT Stations 16mb ram, 100mb HD, OS 3.2 or 3.3 17" NeXT monitors MAC: MAC monitors, Radius TPD19 & 21" MAC classic, classicII, Plus, SE/30...... 386 and 486 intel Pcs, Unisys & Dell VGA Mono display joel@quicklink.com
From: joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 15:41:24 GMT Organization: Internet QuickLink, Corp. (212) 307-1669 Message-ID: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. Is this possible? What do I need to do? When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while still running. Thanks for any help.... joel@quicklink.com
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep on a MAC DOS compatibility card? Date: 3 Mar 1997 19:50:44 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5ffa2k$m52@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <santafe-0203971649070001@ppp014.nagy.tcp-ip.or.jp> <santafe@mx.tcp-ip.or.jp> wrote: > I have always been a Mac person but am now very interested in > trying out the NextStep OS. Will NextStep for Intel work on a > PowerMac 8500/180 with a DOS compatibility card? It is not likely that this will work, not with NeXTSTEP releases up to 4.1 at least. Perhaps Apple is looking into this for a NS-4.2 release. On the other hand, I'm not all that sure you would be thrilled with the results, not unless the compatability card is a high-end pentium and you have a lot of RAM on it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
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From: kykim@access1.digex.net (Kevin Yungsun Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NSi 3.3 and laptops Date: 4 Mar 1997 13:12:50 -0500 Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA Message-ID: <5fhon2$8hq@access1.digex.net> Summary: what PCMCIA SCSI controllers work Hi all, I want to install NeXTStep 3.3 on my toshiba laptop. Looking around on the NeXT web site, I found that the only PCMCIA SCSI card supported it the Adaptec. I was wondering if anyone out ther has (1) tried this (2) found another PCMCIA SCSI card to work. Thanks, -kevin kykim@access.digex.net
From: ian@peacesummit.com (Ian Upright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI and Sound questions Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 11:14:27 -0800 Organization: Peace Summit Technologies, Inc. Message-ID: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a MIDI adapter for NeXT? Where do a get a DSP memory expansion to 128k? Thanks, Ian ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html
From: Christoph Stratmann <strat@artcom.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Blackbox boot problem Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 20:23:13 +0100 Organization: ART+COM GmbH Message-ID: <331C76A0.6AF3@artcom.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I`d like to boot my NeXT-Colorstaion from Floppy. I have an original NeXT-Step 3.3 for Motorola. The first time after power on I get the message "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" Each next try aborts with "Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380012" All boot commands (like: b fd()fdmach, b fd, b fd(), b fd(0,0,0)) results in this Exception. An new boot image brought the same error. If I try a floppy without anything on it, i get a message, that label is not correct etc. So, what is the problem, how to boot from floppy? A. Steinhauser, steini@artcom.de
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 13:45:02 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <on76qim00WBOE2zYAs@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> In-Reply-To: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 25-Feb-97 Experiences with APC or Tri.. by Timothy J Luoma@peak.org > I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's > "Smart-UPS Net 450" (not the Smart-UPS v/s) or TrippLite's > "OMNISMART 280". (Or any experience with either company's UPS). > > I'm a UPS-newbie, so I don't know much about what to look for. > Right now all I know is that one is a lot cheaper than the other, > but I know the APC has user-replaceable batteries, while I don't > know that about TrippLite one way or the other. User-replaceable batteries are a nice feature _if_ you're actually going to get and use spare batteries, but home users generally don't need it. I've got Tripplite's BC Internet 450VA UPS, and I've been entirely satisfied with the product. I've never had my computer panic or otherwise go down due to power problems, and I've had power go down for several seconds on a few occasions. On the other hand, I've also got a bunch of APC equipment like their surge suppressors, and I believe that APC makes the best power handling equipment available. Tripplite makes solid, dependable products that sometimes cost a little less, but APC provides the best products available for the money. I don't think you'll be dissatisfied with either company. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Date: 4 Mar 97 12:02:08 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar4120208@howard.one.net> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> In-reply-to: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM's message of 3 Mar 1997 23:40:25 GMT In article <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com>, MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) writes: Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> writes > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > P-PROs)??? Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) Sigh. So, I've recently noticed that you can get a dual PPro motherboard with 2 150Mhz PPros for something on the order of $800. I've also noticed that my Pentium 133, though likeable at first, is becoming less likeable as time goes by. Being the bottom feeder I am, I was thinking I could get the cheap dual-PPro system, take advantage of the "dual" part under Linux and NT, and later upgrade to faster CPUs when their price comes down (it looks like today's PPros will stick around until the end of the year, after all). So, now I'm left wondering about whether I could take advantage of the "dual" under OpenStep/Mach 4.x. Talk about crap shoot time :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: "Dale Friesen" <dfriesen@amtsgi.bc.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 4 Mar 97 13:23:25 -0800 Organization: Island Net on Vancouver Island B.C. Canada Message-ID: <AF41D2DB-14F38F@198.53.175.34> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.islandnet.com/comp.sys.next.misc :Hi everybody, : :I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package :is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that :would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. : :So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my :Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have :the Best of Both World ;-) : :Is it feasible? Does anybody have any experience with it? :I don't see intrinsic limitations. :I REALLY don't want to buy a Pentium box just for it (with memory, HD, :monitor etc.etc) :I don't care if it would be a little slow on a 486 card and I don't want :to wait for Rhapsody DR. : :Any ideas? : :Thanks a lot : Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be both NeXT and DOS compatible. Thanks for any input.
From: George Rath <rath@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Computer Hardware, SOFT PRICES!! :-(((( Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 14:22:30 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <331CA0A6.6AEA@apple.com> References: <01bc2813$b65143c0$5a1e31c6@webgod> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit National Liquidators wrote: > > National Liquidators, Inc. > 417 142nd Street > South Sioux City, NE 68776 > Phone (402)-494-3018 > Fax (402)-494-4061 > From: Scott Abraham ext.202 > > Here is a list of our Current Liquidation's: > .... snip.... (a long list of computer parts follows, with so-so prices) > page!! > > National Liquidator's has been in business for 2 years doing computer > parts liquidation's from major OEM's. Our main line of business has been > selling to wholesalers and retailers. Our buying philosophy is simple: > buy in bulk, get a good discount, and pass it on! Unless otherwise > specified, product sold is considered used/like new. We offer a 90 day > warranty on our product, in addition to any manufacturer warranty. Gimme a break! These prices are on pair with our local/ next door Fry's/ CompUSA/Computer City and so on. And I have money back policy, I see what I buy and I get the stuff on the spot (don't need to wait). Since the ad is from a Liquidator - I can imagine these guys FAT profits on all that. BTW: is it really a great virtue to be in the business just for two years? Sorry to bitch on them - I don't know these people, but as I see their so- called "soft" prices, I am NOT a potentional customer of them. Their post has NOTHING to do with NeXT/Rapsody/etc. etc. so it is just an other spam. Shame on them!
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Laser Printer Trouble Date: 4 Mar 97 16:53:47 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Mar4165347@fisher.psych.uh.edu> Hi! My trusty black NLP is experiencing problems -- the final stage rollers don't seem to be rolling anymore. I've popped the back panel open and the rollers and gears turn fine, so it must be deeper into the mechanism. Has anyone experienced and/or beat this problem before? Thanks! Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 jason@crash.org (713) 942-7937 voice
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From: "Lou" <lforest@prtc.neet> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 5 Mar 1997 03:02:04 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Message-ID: <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system because of the time searching through the cache memory. I don't think that'll be the case of the AMD MMX although if the trend of advertising cache size continues, the CPU makers might be tempted to put in a bigger cache when they know that it won't make a difference. neon <neon@azstarnet.com> wrote in article <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com>... > I thought the 10 to 15% increase in speed was due to the intenal cache > doubling in size from 16k to 32k. When apps are written for MMX then > the speed increase will be even greater. AMD's version on MMX is > supposed to double the cache again to 64k and should therefore have > greater speed right out of the gate.
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From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 5 Mar 1997 03:03:05 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a : MIDI adapter for NeXT? This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) : Where do a get a DSP memory expansion to 128k? What is the benefit of added DSP memory? (If I dont intend to do any programming my self.) Thanks Geof : Thanks, Ian : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Peace Summit Technologies ian@peacesummit.com : ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- : http://www.peacesummit.com/ian/home.html -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: jrthomas@sover.net (J. Ryan Thomas) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 03:47:10 GMT Organization: SoVerNet, Inc. Message-ID: <331cec0b.12909040@news.sover.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm sure this has already been hashed over endless times, but I haven't kep up with this NG for a while. I currently own a Triton MB with a P133 chip on it, and am considering upgrading to the 200 MMX chip. Is this as painless as it seems, just replace the old with the new, or is the voltage difference a problem? Basically, what do I need to do? Thanks in advance. Ryan J. Ryan Thomas University of Vermont Department of Sociology jrthomas@sover.net
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 5 Mar 1997 07:28:19 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) wrote: > Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: > : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to get a > : MIDI adapter for NeXT? > This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> > (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) Well I know the Opcode MIDI translator is supposed to work with NEXTSTEP if you make up the right cable for it (between the box and the serial port). I think the Studio 5 (is that right) also worked OK, and Ralph Zazula had made a special app to let you mess with the interface's settings. In fact, I suspect to get any Mac interface to work, the cable is the critical thing. I think the ftp archive has the diagram of how to wire the cable, so look there. (I don't have it handy or I'd mail it to you; the best I can do is tell you it exists, so don't give up hope... :-) ) [ Note: I tried to get the MIDI Translator working, but never managed to get the cable right. Probably my fault, and I wasn't using the diagram that later appeared in the archives--had I had that I probably would have got it working OK. (That's kind of embarassing since I have an MS in EE and my senior project has a 6502-based MIDI savvy stage lighting controller which was way cool...with a CPU faster than the Apple //e I used to burn the program ROMs. :-) ) ] There also is/was a MIDI interface designed specifically for the NeXT which came in two models, one with two parallel MIDI outs (ie, same data on both) and one MIDI in ("MIDI Link") and with one out and two merging ins ("MIDI Link+"). They were made by Quest Inc. and came with the necessary cable. I have the MIDI Link+ (Drum machine hooks to one in for timing, master keyboard to another in for playing and the out goes to my five synths, which are chained together). It has worked well for me. :-) Unfortunately, I don't think they are around anymore. :-( -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703041731.MAA02533@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 97 12:30:45 -0500 Subject: Has anyone used NEC 17+ or Samsung SyncMaster 6NE? I my quest for an Intel, I have been looking at two monitors: NEC 17+ Samsung SyncMaster 6NE Can anyone tell me of their experiences with either of these monitors? One of them (I can't remember which) has a 60MHZ refersh rate. I understand the NeXTstation I have is 68MHz. Is this a big difference? Will it be annoying on a color machine? If so, what is the minimum refresh rate I should look for (keeping price in mind)? Thanks TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 300 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: tralala@mlink.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA 1000 PRO / ELSA 2000 AVI under OpenStep 4.1 Date: 5 Mar 1997 09:42:25 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5fjf61$h9m@supernews.login.net> References: <msg39004.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> In-Reply-To: <5ff5dl$34p$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I'm using an Elsa Winner 2000 Pro/X on NS 3.3 and it works flawlessly. Dunno about OS4.1 though you might want to check out Elsa's web site at: http://www.elsa.com/ If you can't find your answer there, I suggest you try the German NS/OS News Groups where Elsa products are often discussed. Cheers, Andre ========================== On 03/03/97, Stefan Boehringer wrote: > # is anybody out there running a > # ELSA 10000 PRO or ELSA 2000 AVI > # > # under OpenStep 4.1? If yes, where do I get the drivers. > # I found a driver for the ELSA 1000 Pro on the ELSA-CD > # Version 1.2A, but this driver was not working (black or > # flimmering screen). > # Can anybody help me? > # Thanks in advance! > > me too! > > - Stefan > >
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: 5 Mar 1997 08:38:00 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5fjbd8$6pb@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> Cc: paul@spectrum.slu.edu In <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > You need the HP 92295A toner cartridge. See http://hpcc997.external.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/BPL01008.html -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 5 Mar 1997 14:57:01 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> In article <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. Hendry) writes: > The machine (a cube) failed the sound check on boot. I could > get around that and get the machine to boot. Once booted, > the machine would lock up completely. I later noticed this was > happening when it tried to play a sound (and probably at > > Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't > help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot > somehow. It's the sound card, located in the rear of the monitor. It sounds like the little DMA chip that handles the monitor sound has died. It's also possible for a single open line in the cable between the cube and monitor to cause the problem. If, in your case, the original cable worked with the other monitor, that isn't the problem. Swapping the board for a working one should correct the problem. Be careful. High voltage parts in there can hold a charge for a long time after the monitor is switched off. The same cards are used in both the sound boxes and monitors. You just need the kind that works with your keyboard (ADB or non-ADB. The keyboard connectors and wiring are different between the two.) -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: abc@rex.precipice.com (Alex Cone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Using DLT (Digital Linear Tape) drives from Mach Date: 6 Mar 1997 03:28:37 GMT Message-ID: <5fldl5$re@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Keywords: DLT Tape Backup Mach Hi All - We've recently outstripped even our DAT drives for backups. DLT drives offer 20-40GB of backup capacity and are very fast to boot. I've seen these run using Legato on Suns but I was wondering if something simple (and free) like dump and mt work with DLTs. Best of all would be if my network backup scripts running on the old DAT drive just continue to work. Has anyone had experience using DLT drives connected to a machine running Mach (intel or moto)? (email me as I don't always watch this list...) Alex Cone Objective Technologies, Inc. Thoughtport Software & Consulting abc@thoughtport.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? Message-ID: <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: root@localhost Organization: Disorganization References: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:31:22 GMT In <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Charlie Root wrote: > The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it > appears. The console screen displays the following message when an > optical disk is inserted in the drive: > > od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... > > This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair > the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to > accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a > replacement? Yes, this is a common sign of a soon and sudden end of the OD. You can replace the laser if you can find one, some older ODs have mechanical problems and a thus working laser.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Good config choices Message-ID: <1997Mar4.192658.468@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: shess@one.net Organization: Disorganization References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <SHESS.97Feb28174714@howard.one.net> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 19:26:58 GMT In <SHESS.97Feb28174714@howard.one.net> Scott Hess wrote: > > Also be certain to get a decent board. I got an ASUS, wonderful > board. No-name clones are death. > I just got a Gigabyte HX board. It's a bit cheaper than the ASUS, but also good value and even a little faster. It has 6 memory banks compared to the common 4 banks on other boards.
From: advertise@bytewarecafe.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BYTEWARE CAFE'S SPECIALS 2.1gb QUANTUM SCSI - US$278, 32M EDO 60ns - US$172 Date: 5 Mar 1997 19:41:39 GMT Organization: http://www.bytewarecafe.com Message-ID: <5fki9j$1h1@newman.pcisys.net> Summary: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. Keywords: CD-ROM DRIVES, FAX/MODEM DRIVES, HARD DRIVES, MEMORY, NETWORK CARDS, SCANNER, VIDEO CARDS. We accept MC/VISA/AMEX - NO SURCHARGE! For a very limited time, our advertising specials are : (in US dollars) THE 32MEG EDO 60NS 72PIN SIMM 8x32 IS ONLY 172....order them while they last! CD-ROM DRIVES 1. GOLDSTAR 8x IDE - 100 2. MITSUMI 8x IDE - 110 FAX/MODEM CARDS 1. ACER 33.6 internal with voice - 93 HARD DRIVES 1. 1.08 GB IDE QUANTUM - 195 2. 1.7 GB IDE SEAGATE - 220 3. 2.0 GB IDE SEAGATE - 241 NETWORK CARDS 1. 3COM ISA TPO 75 2. 3COM PCI TPO 100 3. 3COM PCI 100BaseT TPO - 120 MEMORY 1. 32 MB EDO 60ns - 172 2. 16 MB EDO 60ns - 93 3. 30pin 4MB 4X3 - 43 SCANNER 1. ACER 300F flat bed 24bit color - 264 VIDEO CARDS 1. Trident 1MB PCI 64 MPEG upgradable 9680 - 40 2. ATI 1MB PCI wincharger 64 DRAM - 70 3. Diamond 1MB PCI stealth 64 DRAM - 85 4. Matrox millenium 2MB WRAM upgradable to 4MB WRAM - 193 We also carry CPU's, Cases, Floppy Drives, Tape Drives, Speakers, Contoller Cards, IO Cards, Sound Cards, Monitors, Video Cards, Keyboards, Mice and and Software. Just go to our site http://www.bytewarecafe.com and fill out the necessary information about yourself and your credit card information. Goto the products list and choose the category you are interested in. From this panel, choose the item you want. If you wish to browse the other hardware categories, feel free to browse for as long as you wish. If you wish to buy anything else, just select that item from that category. If you are satisfied with your selection(s) and your personal information is correct, click on the submit order button. The bytewarecafe.com server will respond with an order number and a time stamp. You will need these two numbers for any future correspondences with bytewarecafe.com Your order will be prepared and delivered to most US locations in 3-4 business days. For International order we will contact you with details. Thank you. Prices are subject to change without notice. March 5, 1997
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From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toshiba 8x not found During OpenStep 4.1 Install Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 01:45:17 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <331e1f33.3561694@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Toshiba 8x cdrom which is ATAPI 1.2. The problem is that after I choose "EIDE and ATAPI" for both my hard disk and cd-rom, then choose "Continue Installation", the next window I see says Nextstep Mach for Intel (something like that). It looks like OpenStep is looking for my drives and stuff, and I guess will then mount my cd-rom (correct?). Anyway, after I see that OpenStep found my hard disk. After some other messages, it says it could not find my cd-rom. A prompt asks me what the root is. Above it is the following: use sd%d hd%d etc. So I figured it wants me to tell it where the cd-rom is (doesn't say anything about this in the Installation manual). I type hd0b, I'm pretty sure this is right. Then after a few screens scroll by, I am informed that it cannot mount the root, and I have to reboot. I would really appreciate your help. Thanks very much. Nick
From: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de (Michael Möllney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS/MACH/iNTEL Speed comparison Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:49:54 GMT Organization: Uni Siegen Message-ID: <5fm402$5bk@si-nic.hrz.uni-siegen.de> Hi! I'm interested in OS/MACH/iNTEL speed comparison. A comparison between some new intel-cpu s was published in c't magazine (german mag) BAPCo32 WinNT 4.0: Pent200 - 169 = 100% Pent200MMX - 195 = 115% PPro200 - 228 =135% klamath - 234 = 139% Now I'm interested in some benchmarks with OS/MACH/intel Before sending in results, we should have comparable benchmark programs So, 1. what benchmarks should be considered ? 2. what data should be send along the benchmark result (CPU,MHZ,Board,RAM-type,graphic-card...)? 3. which CPU's should be tested (Pent,pentPRO, AMD, intel/cyrix,...) should we compare with OS/NT and OS/solaris? are there any benchmarks for OPENSTEP? Please send me your Ideas about the benchmark-test-organization e-mail: moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de I will then setup a www-page with the benchmark-rules and programs. when the benchmark results come in I will present them on the same page. What do you think about this? bye, Michael -- Michael Moellney Paul-Bonatz-Straûe 9-11, Raum 426/2 57068 Siegen Tel: +49-271-740-4724 moellney@simtec.imr.mb.uni-siegen.de
From: "Neal A. Schneider" <neal.schneider@mail.cc.trincoll.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HW Engineering Employment Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 00:06:56 -0500 Organization: Trinity College, Hartford CT Message-ID: <331E50F0.5D98@mail.cc.trincoll.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, my name is Neal Schneider and I am searching for employment in in the field of hardware engineering around the bay area. I will be graduating with honors in computer engineering this May from Trinity College, and am looking for a small company environment to enable my skills and experience to promote growth and success. I am a very bright, creative and eager individual with a strong background in both hardware and software engineering. I have gained experience within the industry, comfortably fitting into a team of hardware engineers at Cisco Systems last summer. My main purpose for posting this on the newsgroups is that I will be visiting the bay area from March 21-31 and would like to set up any interviews for employment. I have included my resume and a letter further explaining my background. I can be reached at neal.schneider@mail.cc.trincoll.edu or (860)297-3154. Thank you. Any assistance would be appreciated. Sincerely, Neal A. Schneider resume: Neal A. Schneider 701963 Trinity College Hartford, CT 06106 neal.schneider@mail.cc.trincoll.edu 860/297-3154 OBJECTIVE To find employment in the field of hardware engineering that will allow me to utilize and further develop my skills designing integrated circuits. EDUCATION Trinity College B.S. in Computer Engineering, expected graduation 1997 3.83 GPA(in major) 3.42 cumulative GPA Honors in Engineering/Dean's List Relevant Course work *Microprocessors *Micro-optielectronics *Digital Signal Processing *Digital Circuits and Systems *Semiconductor Electronics and VLSI Design *Machine Organization and Assembly Language *Feedback Control Theory *Linear Systems EXPERIENCE Cisco Systems, Chelmsford MA Internship in Hardware Engineering: May 1996 to August 1996 *Advanced multiple network-based projects in conjunction with a hardware engineering team *Quickly assimilated software/hardware applications and company methodology *Communicated with various departments in order to expedite production *Solved many design problems independently Trinity College, Hartford CT Senior Project: May 1996 to Present *Invented a new network protocol, its device drivers, and the governing software *Utilized the www in order to make connections in fields relating to microprocessor networking *Received funding from the Connecticut Space Consortium in the form of a NASA scholarship Independent Study: January 1995 to January 1996 *Self-taught VHDL by researching books and analyzing IC projects from other schools *Followed intensive tutorials in order to learn and utilize multiple VHDL compilers *Designed, programmed, and tested FPGA's successfully as a member of a team of engineers working on the Trinity College/ Connecticut National Robot Competition Teaching Assistant: August 1995 to present *Supervised multiple final group projects involving integrated circuits *Assisted professor in the development of the lab curriculum. *Tutored individual students on course material Resident Assistant: August 1994 - January 1995 *Strived to create a sense of community between 25 freshmen *Served as a role model and advisor *Resolved interpersonal problems swiftly under critical circumstances SPECIFIC COMPUTER SKILLS *Verilog, VHDL, Microsoft C, C++, AHDL, ASM, PCbug11, Spice *Synopsis synthesis tools,Concept, Max Plus II, VHDL write, Design Architect, Accusim, Signalscan, EPOCH, B^2 Logic *UNIX, X-Windows, MS-DOS,Win 95,Mentor Graphics, Sun OS, Mac OS *References available on request In May of 1997, I will be graduating with honors in computer engineering from Trinity College. Over the past four years, Trinity has given me the opportunity to utilize its excellent engineering facility for academic work as well as independent research in circuit design. I have studied hardware description languages such as VHDL and Verilog as well as IC design applications (e.g. Max Plus II) in order to build up my background in the field. My senior project, which is funded through a grant from NASA, is a culmination of much of my academic knowledge to date. In designing a modular robotics controller, I have developed my own network protocol and software in order to implement a generalized distributed network of microcontrollers and other analog and digital peripheral devices. In order to accomplish this project, I have researched and learned about interprocessor communication, signal processing, general network standards, and more programming than I ever imagined. The majority of my engineering experience, however, was gained during my employment last summer at the Cisco System's Core East ATM division. I was fortunate because my supervisor allowed me to participate in many aspects of the division. This opportunity allowed me to absorb as much knowledge about the industry as possible. I assisted the design team at many levels of production, from top down level design to programming, simulation, synthesis, lay-out and testing. I believe that my success at Cisco stemmed from my ability to assimilate new ideas, methodology and applications very quickly. But more importantly I was able to work with many different individuals and communicate my problems in a coherent manner. These skills and experience I possess would help me fit into a new company environment, and that is why I would be confident joining a team of engineers at your company.
From: jmcnamar@onramp.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What's the latest lowdown on PPro MBs, Video, & OPENSTEP. Date: 5 Mar 1997 06:11:35 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <5fj2qn$o7r@news.blkbox.com> References: <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> In article <5fcvh4$f2g@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: +So I gues Question #2 is, are there any +video cards (other than the 8Mb VRAM #9 Imagine 128) that will +support multiple monitors at a resolution of 1600X1200@24bpp (it +would be an added bonus if the card had 3D acceleration of some +sort) under OPENSTEP? The 8MB cards from Elsa: * support mulitple monitors Elsa was the first to offer this for NS/Intel. We've done three monitors on a system at once, and four are possible. * support 24-bit 1600x1200 @ 83Hz you also get intermediate resolutions like 1536x1152 and 1408x1024, and even 1120x832. * have stable driver support Elsa writes their own drivers, and doesn't mix & match their chips. The last time a rev was required was 9 months ago. When Elsa introduced their 8MB cards, the NEXTSTEP drivers were available BEFORE the DOS drivers. No waiting on NeXT to re-tweak a driver for a new rev of video card. What's the Swedish line in your .sig, anyway? Jason -- Jason McNamara / jason@bifrostworks.com (NeXTMail encouraged!) This post does in fact represent the views of Bifrost Workstations.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: frank@OneVision.de (Frank Pohl) Subject: Re: Best notebook for 3.2 Intel? Message-ID: <E6MF7L.8DD@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 12:11:44 GMT In comp.sys.next.hardware article <9703031826.AA11021@thoon.think.com> Jessica Mosher wrote: > Subject says it all--could someone mail me suggestions for the > best make/model of a pentium or i486 notebook, with color, for NS > 3.2? "Best" is defined as: > > --installs without any problems > --good manufacturer warranty and support > --good active matrix color screen > > It would be nice, although certainly very secondary, if this notebook > was black colored. > > Price, for now, is no object. If there's a web site somewhere, pleasse > feel free to send me its address. We have/use a Thoshiba Tegra 37CDT with/for OPENSTEP and Win95. A grandiose machine. Frank
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From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:33:46 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> "Lou" <lforest@prtc.neet> writes: >Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, >there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system >because of the time searching through the cache memory. Absolutely not... in an n-way set associative cache the search time is determined by n and unrelated to the cache size. n-way means that each memory address can be associated with n cache addresses. Most L2 caches are direct mapped (n=1, so "searching" is hardly the word here); CPU caches, I think, usually 2- or 4-way associative. What you're thinking of are software disk caches, where information can be stored anywhere in the cache... in that case, search time will be either linear or logarithmic with the cache size (depending on the algorithms used). - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" <deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu> Subject: Swapping a Quantum for Maxtor in a Black Cube Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.93.970306094144.4352A-100000@lipschitz> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:48:19 -0600 Organization: As little as I can get away with... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We're replacing an enormous old 450 Mb Maxtor drive with a tiny 1.6 Gb Quantum drive. What are people using to keep the thing from rattling around in there? Do I need to "engineer" my own solution or does someone sell one? Thanks, kc P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) wrote: >I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. > >Is this possible? What do I need to do? > >When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down >over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while >still running. DON'T DO THIS. You run the risk of frying the hardware. Running a Monostation without a monitor is possible, but requires building a special "Dongle" type hardware and attaching it to the graphic port. *Never* detach a monitor while the machine is running. If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, I can repost it. Please note that this applies for Mon stations and Cubes, while Color Stations run fine without the monitor. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:58:23 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fmpiv$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) wrote: >Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? >Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? Works ok with 32Mb, unless you try to do development. You definitely want a remote compile server on a Pentium when you do development, otherwise you spent most of your day waiting. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:02:34 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <E6D8GD.5Cw@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: >> I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug >> the fan and the whole noise gone ;) >> >Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you >used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop >(like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? In-Reply-To: Christian Neuss's message of 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT Message-ID: <ukvzpwh0ygl.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:36:26 GMT Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> said: > > joel@quicklink.com (Joel Kelmenson) wrote: > >I would like to run my NeXTstation with out a monitor. > > > >Is this possible? What do I need to do? > > > >When I took off the monitor after it booted up, it would shut down > >over night. They also shut down if I connect the monitor while > >still running. > > DON'T DO THIS. Amen. A long time ago, I got my hands on a headless mono slab, which someone had assumed was "junk" (Of course, it wasn't. :) Because I needed to have the monitor on *my* slab hooked TO my slab, I successfully built and used the "dongle" (which really consisted of just temporarily bridging two pins on the monitor jack with the properly-rated resistor), and used the A serial port as a secondary console output, hooked via a null-modem cable to one of my laptops. Worked beautifully, I was able to get it networked to my other slab, where it stayed, until (about 1/2 year later) I managed to find a head/keyboard/mouse for it. But, if you don't know *exactly* what you're doing, I don't recommend doing this. Sit down and study the pin-out specs for the monitor jack. If you don't understand them, don't do this. You run the risk of decreasing the world's mono slab population by one if you bridge the wrong holes. -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 6 Mar 1997 16:46:03 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0603970843370001@mfs-annex1-p23.dsphere.net> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> <AF41D2DB-14F38F@198.53.175.34> >:I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package >:is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that >:would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. Actually, the cube will run Openstep. That's your best bet for the short term. >:So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my >:Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have >:the Best of Both World ;-) A WGS 9150 at home? Anyway, the DOS cards cannot run nextstep. They can't run any OS that is not DOS based unfortunately... >:I don't see intrinsic limitations. The limitations are that there is no physical hardware connected to a harddrive. The card uses a custom bios to access your mac hard drive. Since Nextstep is an operating system, it doesn't do it's calls through the bios, it accesses the hardware directly, which in the case of the dos card, isn't there... >Along the same lines, I'm going to need a Mac some time in the next few >months that will be able to run DOS apps after I drop Rhapsody on it. >Should I get a PowerMac with a DOS card and hope the latter still runs >under Rhapsody? Should I get a Pentium and hope Rhapsody's ported to it? I >need a good computer now (any computer) but by mid-1998 it will need to be >both NeXT and DOS compatible. Rhapsody will run on a pentium. The problem is that as expressed so far, that configuration will not run mac apps. You will be able to run rhapsody apps as they are produced, but no mac apps. Get a wicked mac with a dos card, you can do both now really well, and when rhapsody is released, if the dos card no longer works, you can always run softwindows, or at least dual boot your machine into system 7.x and use the dos card. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: EP-S Cartridge for Laser Printer Message-ID: <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 97 16:53:52 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I was just in Office Depot to buy a new cartridge and discovered they have disontinued carrying them. Apparently Cannon still makes them and will sell direct. However, I would prefer a discounter. OD had some in another store and I am buying two for $49 each. Does anybody know of another source when these are gone? -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Blackbox boot problem Date: 6 Mar 1997 13:32:56 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5fmh28$cil$1@news2.voicenet.com> References: <331C76A0.6AF3@artcom.de> Christoph Stratmann (strat@artcom.de) wrote: : I`d like to boot my NeXT-Colorstaion from Floppy. : I have an original NeXT-Step 3.3 for Motorola. : The first time after power on I get the message : "Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x1000374" : Each next try aborts with "Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380012" : All boot commands (like: b fd()fdmach, b fd, b fd(), b fd(0,0,0)) : results in this Exception. : An new boot image brought the same error. : If I try a floppy without anything on it, i get a message, that label is : not correct etc. : So, what is the problem, how to boot from floppy? : A. Steinhauser, steini@artcom.de Change your memeory slots....make sure that they are all to the left side of the case, if that dosen;t work, it could be your memory is bad. -Darren
From: wongj@alumni.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Test...pls ignore Date: 6 Mar 1997 11:25:26 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5fmr5m$2i38@alumni.rpi.edu> This is a test. -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericb@il.us.swissbank.com (Eric_Brown) Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted Message-ID: <1997Mar6.164959.23659@il.us.swissbank.com> Sender: root@il.us.swissbank.com (Operator) Organization: Swiss Bank Corporation CM&T Division References: <SHESS.97Mar4120208@howard.one.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 16:49:59 GMT Scott Hess writes > In article <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com>, > MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) writes: > Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> writes > > Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or > > P-PROs)??? > > Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) > < text deleted > > So, now I'm left wondering about whether I could take advantage of the > "dual" under OpenStep/Mach 4.x. Talk about crap shoot time :-). > This would be wonderful if it ever sees the light of day. I'm sure there are some of us out there that would even be satisfied with an unsupported or beta version of SMP support for the Intel platform in order to get up and running as soon as possible. I would certainly be willing to beta test an SMP version of OS/Mach 4.x. Let's keep our fingers crossed... -- __________________________________________________________________ / Eric Brown | The opinions expressed here \ | NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Consultant | are mine and do not necessarily | | Synectic Design | represent those of my employer | | ericb@il.us.swissbank.com | or SBC. | \______________________________|___________________________________/
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Date: 6 Mar 1997 09:16:09 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> Hi, I'm adding 16 MG of RAM to my 040/25 machine. Is there something similar to PC CMOS which as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? Thanks, Emmett
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Memory limitation Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:47:25 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. Any ideas? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <22496856059808@digifix.com> Date: 6 Mar 1997 20:42:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Andy Eder <sp1edea@doc.ntu.ac.uk> Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading In-Reply-To: <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970306093849.22416B-100000@chris> Sender: news@doc.ntu.ac.uk Organization: The Nottingham Trent University, DOC. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 09:44:43 GMT On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Lutz Heinrichs wrote: > >>> "Kenbug" == Ken Conlon <Kenbug@ix.netcom.com> writes: > > Kenbug> Hmm I have a MMX200 and it seems to be about 10 to 15 percent faster than > Kenbug> my non mmx 200.(actually a fact, ran winstone and winbench and wintune and > Kenbug> norton)...so id have to say your wrong...im waiting to see what happens > Kenbug> when they start coming out with some software for this thing.... > > [snip] > > Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not > much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really > noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. > 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see > what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will > surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > > I'd rather save the money for MMX, get a P200 without MMX and a Voodoo > based 3D card because this kicks MMX's ass in games. What else do you need > MMX for :) > > Lutz I'd recommend getting a MMX AND a dedicated 3D graphics card - a lot of people don't realise that the current version of MMX does not speed up 3D graphics (i.e. - is not dedicated to 3D operations). MMX is (at the moment anyway) mainly utilised in multimedia areas such as 2D graphics, video streaming and the like. Besides, in a few months computer traders will only be shipping MMX based or MMX upgradeable PC's - if they are not already. Andy
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth Bestor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTdimension owners Date: 6 Mar 1997 21:24:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> Does anyone know whether there is a special interest group for NeXTdimension owners, or a formal/informal mailing list? If not, anybody out there interested in hosting one. I would but do not really have access to a guaranteed host for more than 6 months at a time. If you're a NeXTdimension owner and would like to contact other's in the same boat then please send me your email and maybe I can get something started. I recently got a system and want to find out more about this puppy. I'd also be interested in finding out how many of us are out there today; countable on two hands (in binary)? Drop me a line... - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where are the white people Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 12:23:31 +0800 Organization: Global Information Networks (Hong Kong), Public Internet Access. Message-ID: <331CF543.4B19@hk.gin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Where are the Whites? I want to see some white box user post something. Or I am in the wrong area. Regards K.T.Chan
From: Steve Haynes <shaynes@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 17:47:42 -0500 Organization: Widomaker Public Access Internet (804)221-8070 Message-ID: <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net> References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <E6D8GD.5Cw@nidat.sub.org> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Neuss wrote: > > Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: > >In article <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> > >paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) writes: > >> I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug > >> the fan and the whole noise gone ;) > >> > >Those fans are easy to replace. You just need the same screwdriver you > >used to open the case to remove it. Then go to a electronics parts shop > >(like RadioShack) and buy a replacement... > > Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the same > throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and paid big > bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast turned out to be > almost as loud as the original one. > > Chris > -- > // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." > // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ > // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 Hello, One suggestion. I made a thin rubber gasket that fit between the fan and the case that quieted things down a bit. Not terribly difficult to do. Now, if I could just figure a way to quiet the fan in the 21 inch monitor. Now that is loud. Good luck Steve Haynes EQB Industries.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation In-Reply-To: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu's message of 6 Mar 1997 20:47:25 GMT Message-ID: <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:13:39 GMT gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station > has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg > 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT > can use them. AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could effectively go to 64 Meg? -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:41:35 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5fnknf$1cd6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: : > : > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT Station : > has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can I put 4 16 meg : > 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I haven't heard if the NeXT : > can use them. : AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, : would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could : effectively go to 64 Meg? If 4's are tops, then I doubt simmdoublers will work. They just make 4 4meg simms look like a 16. Is there any other way of expanding the memory other that buying a cube? Thanks, Geof : -- : fugue : "The police used to watch over the people. : Now they're watching the people." -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Date: 6 Mar 1997 23:42:50 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5fnkpq$1cd6@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> P'n'P (tm) ;-) Geof Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : Hi, : I'm adding 16 MG of RAM to my 040/25 machine. : Is there something similar to PC CMOS which : as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes : the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? : Thanks, : Emmett -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Malfunctioning Megapixel - repair? Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:20:41 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fnn0p$9kq@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> Cc: mpaque@wco.com In <5fktnt$sc@mpaque.mpaque> Mike Paquette wrote: | In article <5fafrq$moq@news.one.net> jon@steeldriving.com (Jonathan W. | Hendry) writes: | > | > Another monitor works fine. Swapping mouse & keyboard didn't | > help. I'm assuming the sound hardware in the monitor is shot | > somehow. | | It's the sound card, located in the rear of the monitor. It sounds like | the little DMA chip that handles the monitor sound has died. | | Swapping the board for a working one should correct the problem. Be | careful. High voltage parts in there can hold a charge for a long time | after the monitor is switched off. The same cards are used in both the | sound boxes and monitors. You just need the kind that works with your | keyboard (ADB or non-ADB. The keyboard connectors and wiring are | different between the two.) Just a historical note. If you've been around long enough that you have an original N4000 MegaPixel monitor, it has a sound card of a different size and shape. And it's a real pain to open up while looking for the sound card. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: "Lou" <lforest@prtc.neet> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 7 Mar 1997 00:16:17 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Message-ID: <01bc2a8d$238c8be0$484492cc@lforest> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> <331bb367.4131554@news.azstarnet.com> <01bc2909$62935b00$134592cc@lforest> <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl> You are correct. I was thinking about disk cache when I mentioned searching. But I stand by my assertion that the gains accomplished by increasing cache size are progressively less and less and shouldn't be the only specification to look for when choosing a given CPU. Lou Peter den Haan <pieterh@sci.kun.nl> wrote in article <5fmo4q$drm@lambda.sci.kun.nl>... > "Lou" <lforest@prtc.neet> writes: > > >Well, all cache gains are governed by the law of diminishing gain. In fact, > >there is a point where a large cache will actually slow down the system > >because of the time searching through the cache memory. > > Absolutely not... in an n-way set associative cache the search time is > determined by n and unrelated to the cache size. n-way means that each > memory address can be associated with n cache addresses. Most L2 caches > are direct mapped (n=1, so "searching" is hardly the word here); CPU > caches, I think, usually 2- or 4-way associative. > - Peter
From: "tom" <td115@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 7 Mar 1997 01:30:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc2a96$9d59cba0$59b95ccf@tom.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> Lutz Heinrichs <hansmuff@fireball.tng.oche.de> wrote > [snip] > > Well.. okay the 10 to 15 percent are real but what is 10 to 15% ? It is not > much. A good rule is that when processor speed doubles then this is really > noticeable and brings you a good performance boost. > 10 to 15% is not much; and MMX the way Intel did it is a hog... lets see > what AMD and Cyrix will throw on the market, I am sure at least AMD will > surprise everyone with the K6 performance, even on the MMX sector. > the original Nexgen 6x86 ( now the AMD K6 ) had a MMX unit that did 6 billion operations per second. It will be a couple of weeks before we find out if the modification to socket 7 had any effect on this 6 BOPS. tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How can I tell if I have an ADB system? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6nBq6.AGJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:54:06 GMT References: <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Hi, > >How can I tell if I have an ADB mouse or monitor? > Is your mouse round or square? Round == ADB, square == non-ADB. >Is ADB better than non-ADB? > Some like the ADB stuff, some don't (I've never seen an ADB keyboard.) Good thing is, if you don't like it you can replace it with some other ADB stuff meant for Macs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Installing memory on MO (is there anything like CMOS adjustments?) Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6nBsn.6EI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:55:34 GMT References: <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5fmu4p$joe@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > >Is there something similar to PC CMOS which >as to be adjusted so the machine recognizes >the memory, or is it just plug it in and play? > It will figure it out all on its own. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTdimension owners Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6nLy0.6HC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 03:34:48 GMT References: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Gareth Bestor <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: >Does anyone know whether there is a special interest group for >NeXTdimension owners, or a formal/informal mailing list? Don't think there is one, no. >If not, anybody out there interested in hosting one. I would but >do not really have access to a guaranteed host for more than >6 months at a time. > I could possible arrange to host one here. >If you're a NeXTdimension owner and would like to contact other's >in the same boat then please send me your email and maybe I can get >something started. I recently got a system and want to find out >more about this puppy. I'd also be interested in finding out how >many of us are out there today; countable on two hands (in binary)? >Drop me a line... > Apparently about 8000 boards were made, although I have no idea how many of those are currently being used. There's one of them just to the right of me here, though. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: pxl_cwby@ix.netcom.com (Sean C. Cunningham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A few black hardware ???'s Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:51:18 GMT Organization: Me, Myself and I Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fo3bm$hk2@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> I just got a NeXTStation Color Turbo from Deepspace and am wanting to add a couple SCSI devices in the very near future but would like some advice. I'm very new to NeXT (a few hours new to be accurate) so forgive me if this is the millionth time this week someone's asked. First, I'd like to add a CD-ROM, 8x minimum. The local Frys Electronics has devices from Plextor, NEC and Pioneer (along with some generic drives). Are there specific manufacturers that I should stay away from? The hardware FAQ is dated 1994 (the copy I found at least) so I'm not sure how many more drives are useable, or even if that list was just a collection of drives that people had already tried, not intending to be all inclusive. Second, I'd like to add a ZIP drive. Just plug it in and go? This way I can trade information between my Alpha and Amiga fairly easily, until I get up the nerve to try and network them all. Thanx
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need tape drive recommendation Date: 7 Mar 1997 04:17:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> The old MO drive has failed, so I need to get a better backup device. For compatibility with customers who use OEM DAT tape drives in their HP servers, I probably want an external SCSI DAT tape drive that will work under OS 4.x and under NT 4.0. 2 GB capacity is sufficient. Compression seems like a good thing as long as a standard compression format is supported. I don't know much about these devices, so I'm open to education :-) Thanks. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 7 Mar 1997 05:19:07 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> In-Reply-To: <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> Hello NeXT Community: Open Question: Does anyone have running or has anyone tried Integrating : Openstep for Mach / Windows NT Dual Boot System Dual Pro 200 Mhz Processors * Check questions below Dual processor Pro 200 motherboard with IE ASUS P/I-P65UP5 , P/I-P6NP5 , P/I-XP6NP5 or P/I-P6RP4 or Tyan Titan Pro ATX S1668 or Intel ... Finishing out with something like the supported Openstep (Driver) Configuration below: ƒ 4 PCI local bus, 3 ISA slots ƒ PCI I/O Controller with 2 serial (UART 16550) and 1 Centronics parallel port ƒ 256MB EDO Ram expandable to 1024GB. ƒ Adaptec 2940 SCSI UW SCSI controller card ƒ Seagate Barracuda or Cheetah UW 2.1Gb, 4GB or 9GB Harddrive SCSI harddrive ƒ Internal Plextor SCSI CD-ROM or Sony 12X Eide CD-Rom ƒ Matrox Millenium PCI video card with 8MB WRAM * Or Dual Head Imagine PCI Video Cards 128 with 8Mb VRam ƒ NEC XP 17" high-resolution monitor ƒ Sound Blaster 16 ƒ Altec Lancing Speakers ƒ Cogent EM 110TX 10/100Mb Combo Ethernet Card ƒ Zyxel Omni External 28.8 Fax/Voice/Data Modem or ISDN Router Solution ƒ I/Omega 100Mb ZIP Drive ƒ 3.5" Teac 1.44 floppy drive ƒ 104 Enhanced keyboard ƒ PS/2 Mouse * APC UPS Smart ***** Pushing the envelope The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual Processors implemented; In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration that is being hammered on? If the Openstep solution is possible, is their a way to tweak it to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts or instability because of the customization of the configuration on the Openstep side? Or are we venturing into unchartered waters on this one? Best Regards Rob Blessin President Black Hole, Incorporated 303-393-6419 303-320-0949 Fax bhi1@ix.netcom.com "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine On 03/03/97, Mark Bessey wrote: >Gerasimos Melissaratos <gmelis@eexi.gr> writes >> Can anybody tell me if the OS supports multiple CPUs (Pentium or >> P-PROs)??? > >Nope. Not YET, anyway :-) >-- >Mark Bessey >Apple Computer, Inc. >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: <cdoutyE6nBy1.120@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <E6D8GD.5Cw@nidat.sub.org> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:58:49 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom17.netcom.com In article <331F498E.18BF@ibm.net>, Steve Haynes <sghaynes@widomaker.com> wrote: >One suggestion. I made a thin rubber gasket that fit between the fan >and the case that quieted things down a bit. Not terribly difficult to >do. Now, if I could just figure a way to quiet the fan in the 21 inch >monitor. Now that is loud. It's strange. I have two 21" monitors, one w/ BNC connectors and one w/ a 13W3. The one with BNC connectors is quiet, while the other one... I hate to poke around in high voltage areas, but I'm gonna look at the loud monitor. I'll let you know. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: Wolfram.Blase@kiel.netsurf.de (Wolfram Blase) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 23:32:46 GMT Organization: at home Message-ID: <331f5342.2591251@news.cls.de> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> <01bc2739$7027b1c0$30cabbcd@rjiredff> <hansmuff91451j8w.fsf@fireball.tng.oche.de> <5fheik$lcr@pion.sci.kun.nl> <331cec0b.12909040@news.sover.net> On Wed, 05 Mar 1997 03:47:10 GMT, jrthomas@sover.net (J. Ryan Thomas) wrote: Hi, >MB with a P133 chip on it, and am considering upgrading to the 200 MMX >chip. Is this as painless as it seems, just replace the old with the >new, or is the voltage difference a problem? Basically, what do I You say it: MMX prozessors are dual voltage cpu's. Just have a look if your mainboard supports the I/O (i.e. 3,3 V) and CORE (i.e.2,91 V) Voltages before you buy one. regards, Wolfram -- Wolfram Blase wbl@informatik.uni-kiel.d400.de Wolfram.Blase@kiel.netsurf.de +49 431 577323 (2.0.29)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Date: 7 Mar 1997 14:07:55 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5fp7fr$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... aha, so you decided in favor of black hardware :-) Smart move. You can always build a cheap, headless Pentium to use as compile server. >1) Will I need a new modem cable? How can I tell? (I know nothing ... >2) should I be able to remove the Quantum 105 from my mono slab and ... >Anything else I should know while considering this move? It will all work as usual. While there are subtle differences between Non Turbo and Turbo architecture apart from the ADB peripherals, they do not affect serial lines, SCSI, Ethernet, or printer interface. Have fun! Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: What is Cube NIBC? Message-ID: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 14:30:10 GMT When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703070627.BAA07641@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 01:27:19 -0500 Subject: Re: MEMORY LIMITATION Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - Responding To: akim@cogent.net (Andrew Kim) Original Date: 4 Mar 1997 08:37:10 GMT Message-ID: bf273024080d335adfe7bc5637ee3d44 - > I have NeXTstation color unit and have 32MB. > What is maximum memory limitation of this unit? > I would like to increase more memory, can I ? I believe that you can add up to 128MB of RAM on that machine. You'll have to open it up and see how many SIMMs slots there are to be 100% sure. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) PEAK OpenStep/NeXTStep FTP Site Newly revised and enhanced NeXTStep/OpenStep resources page, over 200 NeXTStep/OpenStep/Rhapsody related links. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
From: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SyQuest EZ FLyer 230 ? Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:53:06 -0500 Organization: Concurrent Technologies Corp. Message-ID: <33202BD2.1CFB@ctc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I was just wondering if anyone is successfully using SyQuest's EZ flyer 230 SCSI drive with NeXTstep? THanks in advance. -- Chang Song E-mail: song@ctc.com Concurrent Technologies Corp. Phone: 814-269-6515 Personal E-mail: csong@ibm.net or chsong@hotmail.com Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/5237/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- "A distributed system is one in which I cannot get something done because a machine I've never heard of is down" --Leslie Lamport
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A Few (Turbo vs non) Slab questions Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:06:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5fplea$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <199702271432.JAA07791@peak.org> <5fp7fr$hkd@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> wrote: > "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >> Thinking about getting a turbo color slab to replace my mono slab.... > > While there are subtle differences between Non Turbo and Turbo > architecture apart from the ADB peripherals, they do not affect > serial lines, SCSI, Ethernet, or printer interface. Not quite true - the turbo hardware can probably more reliably handle faster serial transfer rates (eg 57600) while multitasking, and I think NeXT may have improved the memory and SCSI circuitry too. Otherwise everything will just plug in and work, just a little faster :-) One thing however, I hacked a Nintendo PowerGlove to run off the DSP of my old NeXTcube (non-Turbo) and it does *NOT* appear to work now on my NeXTstation Turbo Color. No idea why as I have a Color Digital Eye framegrabber that works fine on both DSPs, but I haven't the source code to the PowerGlove driver source code to investigate further. The NeXTstation Turbo Color is a very nice machine to use for day to day stuff, just avoid big compiles jobs. - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:06:47 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell > me what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. NBIC means NeXTbus Interface Chip. Its a custom chip on the NeXTcube motherboard for interfacing over the NeXTbus backplane with other peripheral boards (i.e. the NeXTdimension). All the 040 turbo and non-Turbo cube motherboards have it, but the original 030 cubes motherboards do not. NeXTstation mono/color/Turbo motherboards don't have it as they have no internal NeXTbus expansion bus. Don't worry about it - its essentially functionless unless you get hold of a NeXTdimension board or other NeXTcube expansion board (I think the only other one was a multi-DSP board). - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New Memory types. Which are best? Date: 7 Mar 1997 18:16:01 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5fpm11$ku0@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5fdquh$ilb@news4.digex.net> <SHESS.97Mar3081430@howard.one.net> Scott Hess (shess@one.net) wrote: : EDO is pretty much the way to go today. FPM has no discount, so is : only worth it if you can't use EDO. SDRAM is still at a premium, and : SDRAM-based motherboards only provide one or two DIMM slots, and : commonly available modules only go to 32M, which really limits your : memory sizes. Besides, SDRAM is only available with PentiumPro : motherboards using non-Intel chipsets :-). SDRAM is more expensive ($104 for a 16 meg vs. $84 for EDO), but bu all account it seems to be the next wave. For a good explanation of the features, see: http://sysdoc.pair.com/ram.html I dont know much about the PC motherboard side of things, but the PPC market has completely standardized on 64bit DIMMS (168 pin) so I imagine PC will move that way too. If you can find a MB with DIMMS, and support for EDO/SDRAM/Parity/ECC, I'd do it, and spring for the SDRAM if your budget will allow. Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: ŸŸŸŸŸúlŸŸŸŸŸtg@geniac.isye.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj,Groseclose 333,4 3873,+1 404 3207684) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTdimension owners Date: 7 Mar 1997 17:15:52 GMT Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology Message-ID: <5fpig8$fak@smash.gatech.edu> References: <5fncmn$e9a@news.doit.wisc.edu> <E6nLy0.6HC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > Apparently about 8000 boards were made, although I have no idea how many of >those are currently being used. There's one of them just to the right of me >here, though. ;) > I have one too, "just to the right of me!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6oM7D.8GF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:38:01 GMT References: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu>, Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me >what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. >Thanks. > The NBIC is the NeXTbus Interface Chip, and must be installed on each board that wishes to communicate with other boards on the NeXTbus. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 7 Mar 97 10:41:01 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar7104101@howard.one.net> References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> In-reply-to: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu's message of Thu, 6 Mar 1997 23:13:39 GMT In article <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu>, fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT > Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can > I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I > haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one could effectively go to 64 Meg? I don't think you can do SIMM-"doublers" for 30-ping, you have to gang four of them. Besides which, a doubler just makes a gang of SIMMs look like a bigger SIMM, so if you ganged four 30-pin 4M SIMMs, you'd end up with one 30-pin 16M SIMM-alike ... so why not just go to 30-pin 16M SIMMs? Well, beyond "because it won't work" :-). [Actually, though, won't it? I don't know enough to know if the limitation is that the board won't handle 16M SIMMs, or that the BIOS won't handle >64M. Could you leave 4 slots empty and put 4x16M to get to 64M, for instance? I doubt it, considering when the board was designed. And why am I asking, since I'm running a Turbo board? Sigh.] Beyond all that, there's _no_ way you're going to be able to find enough clearance to fit all this. You'd need four SIMM savers, short-left, tall-left, tall-right, short-right. The short ones would probably fit in the slots away from the power supply, but I doubt the tall ones would. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 12:41:54 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn85BWq00iWRA61tFx@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 7-Mar-97 What is Cube NIBC? by Andrew Chang@gsbux1.uchi > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me > what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. It's the Next Bus Interface Controller chip, which is required to arbitrate the NuBus slots inside the cube. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Swapping a Quantum for Maxtor in a Black Cube Date: 7 Mar 1997 15:18:15 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5fpbjn$s1v@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <Pine.NXT.3.93.970306094144.4352A-100000@lipschitz> Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu In <Pine.NXT.3.93.970306094144.4352A-100000@lipschitz> "J. Kelly Cunningham" wrote: > > We're replacing an enormous old 450 Mb Maxtor drive with a tiny 1.6 Gb > Quantum drive. What are people using to keep the thing from rattling around > in there? > Thanks, kc > > P.S. Please Cc: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu they just plug up the spaces with more tiny 1.6 Gb drives... -rick
From: jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.dsp Subject: NeXT 56001 DSP for image processing? Date: 7 Mar 97 14:45:53 Organization: C.R.A.S.H. The Computers, Robotics, and Artists Society of Houston Message-ID: <JASON.97Mar7144553@fisher.psych.uh.edu> Hi! Forgive this basic question, but is anyone aware of image processing applications of the 56001 DSP -- papers, examples, source? I'm particularly interested in NeXT/56001 combinations, but examples from other domains are certainly welcome. Thanks! Jason Asbahr 808 Sul Ross Suite 7 C.R.A.S.H. Houston, Texas 77006 jason@crash.org (713) 942-7937 voice
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 7 Mar 1997 20:34:46 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) wrote: > The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not > currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual > Processors implemented; > > In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and > use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the > secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any > instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration > that is being hammered on? That is probably possible. > If the Openstep solution is possible, is their a way to tweak it > to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported > side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts > or instability because of the customization of the configuration > on the Openstep side? This is impossible. An SMP system assumes a single operating system running on both processors. Both processors look at the same chunk of RAM, the same bus, and the same devices. I can not imagine that you could run seperate operating systems on the two CPU's without them walking all over each other. It would get quite messy. To do what you want, you'd really want a single motherboard with some kind of add-on card which would effectively give you a second separate computer. Someone in one of the next newsgroups was recently talking about having this as an option from one of the companies that makes such cards. Perhaps you can find it by looking thru deja-news or the next newsgroups at www.stepwise.com. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: "Lee Bennett" <lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStep Color Booting off Network how can i stop this??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 01:38:10 GMT Organization: L&B Software Message-ID: <01bc2b61$5c624f20$9f7206c2@default> Hi, I Have a NexT Colour system, but i dont have the o/s or a boot disk. What i need to know is how can i stop my system booting of the network. If anyone can help me with a boot disk or any help on my problem pleas e-mail me @ lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A few black hardware ???'s Date: 8 Mar 1997 02:42:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970308024200.VAA18663@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5fo3bm$hk2@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> The Zip drive just plugs in and works. I've got a little bit of info on this at my web page--http://members.aol.com/willadams--just choose Tools, then hardware. There's also a link to the Radical Solutions web site which has a lot more information. I've also done a set of Zip drive icons to replace the generic SCSI drive icon. If you try them, please let me know if they work and what you think of them. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:50:35 -0500 Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - Responding To: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Original Date: 6 Mar 1997 15:55:34 GMT Message-ID: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - > If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, > I can repost it. I'd like to see it (I don't know that I can build one of these myself as I have 8 thumbs and two really useless fingers ;-) as I'm probably going to want to run my slab headless to run the NeXT LP while I do my work on a new Intel machine (advice/pointers on how to connect the two are also appreciated) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Sender: tm@burrow.muc.de (the mole) Organization: hardly any. . . References: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <E6D8GD.5Cw@nidat.sub.org> <5fmpqq$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.92) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:25:50 GMT >>>>> "CN" == Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: CN> Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the CN> same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and CN> paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast CN> turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. I, too, got a new fan but that didn't solve my noise problems. It turned out it was the drive that made that constant noise and that I can't replace as easily. :-( Markus G P.S.: My fan came in a set of two so if somebody in the Bavarian capital thinks he needs one, send me an email.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Why isn't my optical drive operating correctly? References: <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <33210a24.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 8 Mar 97 06:41:40 GMT In article <1997Mar4.193122.529@gamelan.shnet.org>, Thomas Funke <thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM> wrote: >In <5fb7ij$4bf@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Charlie Root wrote: >> The optical drive inside my NeXTcube isn't operating correctly it >> appears. The console screen displays the following message when an >> optical disk is inserted in the drive: >> >> od0?: write re-spin (laser power failed) ... >> >> This is obviously not a good sign. Is there any way to easily repair >> the drive (I am an electrical engineer), or am I going to have to >> accept the sad fact that it should be put to rest and buy a >> replacement? > >Yes, this is a common sign of a soon and sudden end of the OD. You can >replace the laser if you can find one, some older ODs have mechanical >problems and a thus working laser. > > > I am in need of a working laser for my good mechanically-but-dead OD. Anyone got one? How easy is it to install. I called Bell Atlantic. They sell new ODs at US$375. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Message-ID: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 22:45:12 -0800 From: Greg Neagle <greg_neagle@lamg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Help: ATI mach64 problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in any mode but 640x480 grayscale. Configure.app detects that the on-board video is mach64-based, but during the boot process, it is asserted that "no such device exists". In Configure.app, under "Select the settings for this device": DMA channel: none Port address: 8 bytes at 0x2E8 Mapped memory: 2048K at 0xFC000000 But the Aptiva manual says that the system I/O addresses for the SVGA controller are 03C0-03CF, 3D4, 3D5, 03DA and that "Linear video memory is at C000000H - C0FFFFFH Attempts to change the settings in Configure.app result in various warning messages and no diffence in the display. Is it possible that the settings are wrong, or is it something more basic and therefore hopeless - meaning I'll have to buy a video card for this machine? Any help or advice appreciated.
From: dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Turbo memory requirements Date: 8 Mar 1997 07:29:07 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: dchin I have a turbo station that I'm trying to upgrade from 8 megs of ram to more. When I add in 4 16 meg simms, for a total of 64 megs of ram (all simms are non parity, single sided, non edo 72 pin simms) the machine recognizes each as a 4 meg stick, for a total of 16 megs. About the only think I can this of that would cause this prob is the fact that these simms are single sided since I don't believe 16 meg simms were avalible in 1992 as single sided units. Before I spend hours trying to locate 64 megs of this stuff, does anyone know authoritivily what should or should not work in this machine? Thanks -- _______________________________________________________________________ Davin Chin dchin@u.washington.edu 206-783-7337 (Fax) 206-706-1644 ext 634 (Pager) dchin@nwmicro.com
From: sk68@cornell.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStep Color Booting off Network how can i stop this??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 10:29:24 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5frf24$7tk@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc2b61$5c624f20$9f7206c2@default> "Lee Bennett" <lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, > >I Have a NexT Colour system, but i dont have the o/s or a boot disk. What i >need to know is how can i stop my system booting of the network. > >If anyone can help me with a boot disk or any help on my problem pleas >e-mail me @ > >lee.cool@ukonline.co.uk Hi Lee, I think you really need to go get a boot disk. If you want to make a boot disk, you probably want to get a SCSI-2 hard disk and also a SCSI-2 CD-ROM drive. After you get these items, you probably have to change the startup boot device setting: 1. You need to get a boot disk. You can make a boot disk using a SCSI-2 hard disk and a SCSI-2 CD-ROM drive. You also need a NeXTSTEP 3.x CD-ROM. Plug the SCSI-2 CD-ROM into the SCSI port of you system and install the hard drive internally. 2. Start the computer. You now want to get into the ROM monitor. You can get into the ROM monitor by: When the system is first turned on, hold down the Command bar and press the ~ key (without pressing Shift) IMMEDIATELY after the "Testing System" message is replaced by "Loading from disk" message. (On keyboards with two Command keys, hold down the right Command key and press the ~ key. The ROM monitor window is displayed containing the prompt "NeXT>". 3. Inspect startup parameters: While in ROM monitor do as follows: NeXT>p (type p and return) NeXT>boot command: ben? bsd (IT WILL PROBABLY BE SET TO "ben"; CHANGE THIS TO "bsd" by typing "bsd" and pressing return) Leave all other parameters alone. Of course, all this is assuming you NeXT colour system does not have hardware password protection enabled. IF it is enabled, you need to the get the hardware password or erase the current one. Now the computer will boot using device "sd" ("bsd" I think stands for boot scsi drive (scsi device with lowest number)). If you successfully installed the CD-ROM drive and the hard disk, the computer should now load via the CD-ROM drive and install NeXTSTEP 3.x into the hard disk. Good luck
From: Geoff Hopson <Geoff.Hopson@mindless.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: disktab for Toshiba Tecra deskstation && Iomega Jaz Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 11:30:13 +0100 Organization: Ping Net Sarl, Lausanne, Switzerland Message-ID: <33213FB5.1370@mindless.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am having problems hooking up an Iomega Jaz drive to the Toshiba DeskStation V. The SCSI adaptor in there is an AMD PCI SCSI adaptor and is alledged to work with the IOMEGA Bernoulli device, so one would assume that the Jaz would work also. It works just fine with WinNT and Win95. I have retrieved the NextAnswer on the Jaz drive and have tried their disktab entry - no luck. I have tried the disktab entry mentioned on http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ns-disktab/ - different error, but still no luck. Any clues? I can format the Jaz disk using sdform, but the disk command just bombs. Thanks in advance, Geoff -- +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+ | Geoff Hopson | Geoff.Hopson@mindless.com | | Senior Telecomms Architect | http://www.datacomm.ch/~hopson | | SYSTOR AG | "I never make predictions, | | Baslerstrasse 60, 8048 Zurich | and I never will" | +-------------------------------+--------------------------------+
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: Tue, 4 Mar 1997 18:44:28 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970304183915.20828A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Paul J. Sanchez" <paul@spectrum.slu.edu> In-Reply-To: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> On 1 Mar 1997, Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? EP-S cartridges fit the HP Laserjet II and III, as well as the Apple Laserwriter II series printers (and the NeXT laser printer, of course). They're about as standard as you can get - all are based on the same Canon engine. (Probably the most popular laser printer engine of all time.) -Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703071747.MAA04578@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 03e34f159443d3e303d441a1a944162a - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 12:47:30 -0500 Subject: Re: A few black hardware ???'s Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 03e34f159443d3e303d441a1a944162a - Responding To: pxl_cwby@ix.netcom.com (Sean C. Cunningham) Original Date: 7 Mar 1997 03:51:18 GMT > I just got a NeXTStation Color Turbo from Deepspace and am wanting > to add a couple SCSI devices in the very near future but would like > some advice. I'm very new to NeXT (a few hours new to be accurate) > so forgive me if this is the millionth time this week someone's > asked. Not a problem, at least you're on-topic, which is a nice thing these days... > First, I'd like to add a CD-ROM, 8x minimum. The local Frys > Electronics has devices from Plextor, NEC and Pioneer (along with > some generic drives). Are there specific manufacturers that I > should stay away from? The hardware FAQ is dated 1994 (the copy I > found at least) so I'm not sure how many more drives are useable, > or even if that list was just a collection of drives that people > had already tried, not intending to be all inclusive. If this is for NeXT hardware you have to get a SCSI drive, but that said any SCSI drive should(*) work. > Second, I'd like to add a ZIP drive. Just plug it in and go? This > way I can trade information between my Alpha and Amiga fairly > easily, until I get up the nerve to try and network them all. Yes, with some important information you should know. You can find the ZIP info and the newest NeXTStep FAQ on my NeXTStep page: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ which is where I've put all these links people want and I can't remember. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* I will be away from the evening of Mar 7 (Friday) until Mar 12 (Wed)
From: robert@amo.mit.edu (Robert Lutwak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 8 Mar 1997 13:58:55 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <5frrav$8k4@boursy.news.erols.com> References: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> In comp.sys.next.hardware article <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> T.J.Luoma wrote: > I'm > probably going to want to run my slab headless to run the NeXT LP > while I do my work on a new Intel machine (advice/pointers on how to > connect the two are also appreciated) I've done it. For '040 machines, it's quite simple, just a Radio Shack normally open momentary pushbutton between pins 6 and 16 of the monitor cable. All this business about big power resistors relates to old '030 cube power supplies which weren't happy without the monitor load. Note that the DB-19 connector on the monitor is impossible to obtain but you can fake it (If you don't have a spare NeXT monitor cable lying around). A DB-25 with the right 6 pins snapped out fits on the back of the NeXTstation. I've never tried it on a cube. Before disconnecting your monitor you need to: 1) From the ROM monitor, enable "Use serial port A as alternate console." 2) Edit /etc/ttys: Comment out the first (uncommented) line, the one that sets "console" to /usr/lib/NeXTstep/loginwindow. Uncomment the previous line, which sets console to /usr/etc/getty. Hook up your external vt100 monitor (or serial line to your shiny new computer) to ttyA. Make sure you get the line settings right, to agree with the default entry in /etc/gettytab. I believe the default is something like 7-N-1 (Neal?). Voila! Boot the machine by momentarily depressing the pushbutton. Turn it off via the "halt" command from your tty terminal or a telnet session. NOTE (and this is the rub for most applications): Having disabled the windowserver in step 2 above, you no longer have the Postscript interpreter running. Hence, you cannot run Apps via -NXHost, and YOU CANNOT RUN A NEXT LASER PRINTER. Others have claimed success at leaving the WindowServer running, but I have found that it hangs the machine. Anyone? Robert -- Robert Lutwak robert@amo.mit.edu
From: Theodore J. Allen Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: ATI mach64 problems Date: 8 Mar 1997 13:58:36 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5frrac$40r0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> Greg Neagle <greg_neagle@lamg.com> wrote: > I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the > all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI > mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in > any mode but 640x480 grayscale. > [text snipped] > > Any help or advice appreciated. Do you have the PCIBus driver loaded? -- Ted Allen, Ph.D. High Energy Physics University of Wisconsin-Madison tjallen@wishep.physics.wisc.edu http://theory1.physics.wisc.edu/~tjallen/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: EP-S Cartridge for Laser Printer Message-ID: <1997Mar7.172041.498@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us Organization: Disorganization References: <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:20:41 GMT In <1997Mar6.165352.4857@investor.pgh.pa.us> Bob Peirce #305 wrote: > I was just in Office Depot to buy a new cartridge and discovered they > have disontinued carrying them. Apparently Cannon still makes them and > will sell direct. However, I would prefer a discounter. OD had some in > another store and I am buying two for $49 each. Does anybody know of > another source when these are gone? The cartridges from HP are still sold. They have a different number (not EP-S), but are fully compatible. Just ask for a HP-LJ II cartridge. I don't think HP will stop production - they have a big customer base.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Laser Printer Trouble Message-ID: <E6q1Mu.7tr@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <JASON.97Mar4165347@fisher.psych.uh.edu> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:08:54 GMT In article <JASON.97Mar4165347@fisher.psych.uh.edu> jason@fisher.psych.uh.edu (Jason L. Asbahr) writes: > Hi! > > My trusty black NLP is experiencing problems -- the final stage rollers > don't seem to be rolling anymore. I've popped the back panel open > and the rollers and gears turn fine, so it must be deeper into the > mechanism. Has anyone experienced and/or beat this problem > before? > This is a well known FAQ. The nylon gear of the drive axle is broken (happens far too often). Advice on repair is to be found in the FAQ on Peanuts <www.peanuts.leo.org> -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Message-ID: <E6q23y.7uI@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 1997 11:19:10 GMT In article <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede <markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: > >>>>> "CN" == Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> writes: > > CN> Yes. But can somebody recommend a quiet fan with roughly the > CN> same throughput? I bought a replacement fan from DigiKey (and > CN> paid big bux to have it shipped to Europe), but the beast > CN> turned out to be almost as loud as the original one. > I haven't done it on my own so I can't give you type numbers or other specs but I recommend thermocontrolled Pabst fans (German made quality parts ;-) Likely not to be sold at RadioShack :-( > I, too, got a new fan but that didn't solve my noise problems. It > turned out it was the drive that made that constant noise and that I > can't replace as easily. :-( > The disk drive noise is much more common to be the real problem. Due to a design flaw in the mounting bracket there is no good way other as to remove the drive and put it in an external enclosure. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Dujourdy Stephane <Stephane.Dujourdy@Wanadoo.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXT CUBE SEARCH Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 19:10:03 +0100 Organization: Interactive TV Consultant - Amiga/PC/Mac dev. Message-ID: <3321AB7A.4C00@Wanadoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello from France, for sentimental history i search a Next Computer. Send me by mail your proposition. Bye Stef
From: jcarr37863@aol.com (JCarr37863) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: 8 Mar 1997 19:15:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970308191501.OAA28194@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <on76qim00WBOE2zYAs@andrew.cmu.edu> apc and tripplite are medium usage ups. true online ups offer muchbetter protection. at a higher price of course. we sell exide for trueonline, www.exide.com, apc for medium(smartups only), and viewsonics for long end www.viewsonics.com. for customs we build our own rackmounts. btw: batteries do get old so remvoable batteries are a plus. UPS SUN SCSI Built to order with support GSA schedule Maryland home page http://www.digitalcity.com/powerstar 800-209-5556
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT laser printer cartridge Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 14:02:15 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <3321B7B7.7783@gl.umbc.edu> References: <x7iv3bbcty.fsf@spectrum.slu.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970304183915.20828A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown Isaac wrote: > > On 1 Mar 1997, Paul J. Sanchez wrote: > > > The FAQ says that any EP-S style cartridge will fit into the NeXT > > printer. The local Comp-USA carries HP toner cartridges, but can't > > tell me which one is an EP-S. Can anyone help me to translate? > > EP-S cartridges fit the HP Laserjet II and III, as well as the Apple > Laserwriter II series printers (and the NeXT laser printer, of course). > They're about as standard as you can get - all are based on the same > Canon engine. (Probably the most popular laser printer engine of all > time.) > > -Isaac HP-92295
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is parallel port ZIP the same as the SCSI version? Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:36:50 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm244-15.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fspm2$afg$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hello, I am looking for a SCSI ZIP drive for my NeXT. And I have notice that the parallel port one is under Windows 95 reported as being connected to a SCSI controller. Does it mean that inside there is the SCSI ZIP drive with a parallel to SCSI converter? If so, a skilled person could possibly: 1) Make the parrallel port ZIP into a combo parallel/SCSI ? 2) Use the paraller-> SCSI converter to daisy-chain other SCSI devices to a Windows 95 machine? That would be really usefull to me. Anybody has opened the parallel port ZIP drive to examine this? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Info about Dual-CPUs wanted (GURU Needed) Date: 8 Mar 1997 23:56:20 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5fsub4$iil@sjx-ixn8.ix.netcom.com> References: <331B3BF8.1EEEF207@eexi.gr> <5ffnh9$s5j@news.next.com> <5fo8gb$gke@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> In-Reply-To: <5fpu56$g6n@usenet.rpi.edu> Follow Up: On 03/07/97 in the group comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: >rob@blackhole.ix.netcom.com (Rob Blessin) wrote: >> The Question for the true Intel Guru is even though SMP is not >> currently supported for Intel ; if we set the system up with Dual >> Processors implemented; >> >> In theory is there a way to tweak Openstep 4.2 to Boot up and >> use only the Primary Pro 200 processor (A) while letting the >> secondary Pro 200 processor (B) idle without creating any >> instability throughout the proposed or similar configuration >> that is being hammered on? > >That is probably possible. Cool, this is actually a proposed system for a professor at Harvard, I checked with NeXT technical and they were not sure..... >> If the Openstep solution is possible, is there a way to tweak it >> to boot up (mutually exclusive) on the Windows NT SMP supported >> side utilizing both Pro 200 Processors without creating conflicts >> or instability because of the customization of the configuration >> on the Openstep side? > >This is impossible. An SMP system assumes a single operating system >running on both processors. We were actually thinking for this prototype ... along the lines of logging completely out of the Openstep dual processor mode (A) running with (B) processor Idling and then theoretically rebooting into the Windows NT partition and having it configured to take advantage of both A & B processors through booting up in SMP mode . In this scenario would the following still apply with relation to the NT / Openstep configuration scripts conflicting with each other only in a complete reboot scenario with only 1 OS running ? Both processors look at the same chunk >of RAM, the same bus, and the same devices. I can not imagine that >you could run separate operating systems on the two CPU's without >them walking all over each other. It would get quite messy. > No doubt a simultaneous OS boot would be chaotic , we are not even going to try and go there, although the add on card idea is a very cool idea .. another thought is advantec (sp) makes a multiple motherboard rackmount case thats very cool... we set a system up with a monitor switch box for a server that had to run NT and Openstep simultaneously with Linux as a 3rd rebootable option. >To do what you want, you'd really want a single motherboard >with some kind of add-on card which would effectively give >you a second separate computer. Someone in one of the next >newsgroups was recently talking about having this as an >option from one of the companies that makes such cards. >Perhaps you can find it by looking thru deja-news or the >next newsgroups at www.stepwise.com. Kudos Appreciate the help and advice! Best regards Rob Blessin President BHI bhi1@ix.netcom.com > >--- >Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu >Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) >Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA > -- {\rtf0\ansi{\fonttbl\f0\fswiss Helvetica;} \paperw9840 \paperh8400 \margl120 \margr120 \pard\tx533\tx1067\tx1601\tx2135\tx2668\tx3202\tx3736\tx4270\tx4803\tx5337\f0\b0\i0\ulnone\fs24\fc0\cf0 Best regards: \ \ Rob Blessin\ President\ Black Hole, Incorporated\ 748 Poplar St.\ Denver , CO 80220\ \ 303-393-6419\ 303-320-0949\ \ http://www.blackholeinc.com/\ \ "NeXTSTEP is probably the most respected software on the planet" Byte Magazine\ \ Serving the NeXTSTEP/ Openstep community since Q1 1993. }
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MIDI and Sound questions Date: 9 Mar 1997 00:41:03 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ft0uv$h5k$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <331e744f.25319126@news.jumppoint.com> <5finp9$1asc@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> Cc: don@globalobjects.com In <5fj7aj$98u$1@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman wrote: > gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) wrote: > > Ian Upright (ian@peacesummit.com) wrote: > > : Do any Mac MIDI interfaces work on black boxes? Whats the best way to > get a > > : MIDI adapter for NeXT? > > This was the question I was about to ask.... ;-> > > (Specifically I would like a 2 port adapter for use with Sequence.) > > ... My upcoming release of MMP.app (now renamed to Minimal Media Player) can play MIDI files. It uses the freely available program timidity to render the MIDI files to digital audio and plays it on your system. Beside MIDI it can play MODs, Audio MPEG Layer 1,2 and 3 and plain 'snd' files, Support for WAV is to be included. The downside is a. you need a fast machine, a P133 will do fine but a 486 DX/4 MHz is too slow. (not to mention a m68k system...) b. the midi patches needs about 8.6 MByte on your HD. c. at the moment it works only on Intel hardware (NeXTSTEP 3.x and OpenStep) -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 10:24:03 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Michele Fuortes wrote: > I'd like to start programming OpenSTEP. The University developer package > is $299 which I can afford. I also have a old NeXT cube but I know that > would not run 4.x OpenSTEP. As I'm sure someone's told you, the cube (provided it's an 040) will run Openstep, albeit slowly. > So I was thinking about the idea of getting a cheap DOS card for my > Macintosh here at home (9150), install OpenSTEP in there and REALLY have > the Best of Both World ;-) Apple's DOS cards are exactly that - DOS cards. They only work with DOS-based operating systems (which includes Windows95, but not NT). Neither NEXTSTEP or Openstep will run on Apple's cards... HOWEVER: Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have NT running on the card. -Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Message-ID: <1997Mar8.203236.95388@cc.usu.edu> From: jaeyang@nostalgia.usu.edu (Jaeyang Park) Date: 8 Mar 97 20:32:36 MDT References: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> Organization: Utah State University Cc: logy@mail.utexas.edu In <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> "Nathan Whitt" wrote: > I was wondering if it is possible to use a NeXT ADB mouse with a Mac? > Sure, it works well with my PowerMac.
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: NeXT on a Mac with a DOS card? Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:27:39 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm247-19.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5fthob$ir$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <mfuortes-0303972110040001@140.251.4.71> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Cc: isaac@pobox.com In <Pine.LNX.3.95.970306101913.20654A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > HOWEVER: > > Orange Micro sells PC-compatibility cards that they advertise as > NT-compatible. It may be possible to install NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach on > one of those cards. Even if it isn't, OpenStep/NT may run if you have > NT running on the card. > > -Isaac > > Do you know more about the company? Thanks Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <5437857680935@digifix.com> Date: 9 Mar 1997 05:25:33 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How can I tell if I have an ADB system? Date: 5 Mar 1997 20:44:44 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5fli3s$3dj@slip.net> Hi, How can I tell if I have an ADB mouse or monitor? Is ADB better than non-ADB? Thanks, Emmett
From: seran@rayleigh.me.ttu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 8 Mar 1997 22:12:53 GMT Organization: Texas Tech Academic Computing Services Message-ID: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> how much hard disk space will i need to install just NS 3.3 User? also, has anyone tried to install NS 3.3 on a Sharp PC 8700 notebook computer? hs
From: "JeongJinhyeok(96419-074)" <salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:40:24 +0900 Organization: Seoul National Univ. Message-ID: <331D2368.344A@gong.snu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that NS 3.3 beta driver will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang
From: "JeongJinhyeok(96419-074)" <salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: Wed, 05 Mar 1997 16:40:51 +0900 Organization: Seoul National Univ. Message-ID: <331D2383.6A27@gong.snu.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? NeXT says that NS 3.3 beta driver will work on OS 4.1. Really work? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 9 Mar 1997 07:12:13 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> > >You run the risk of frying the hardware. Running a Monostation >without a monitor is possible, but requires building a special >"Dongle" type hardware and attaching it to the graphic port. >*Never* detach a monitor while the machine is running. > >If there is interest in the hardware specification for this, >I can repost it. > >Please note that this applies for Mon stations and Cubes, while >Color Stations run fine without the monitor. > Hmmm, as I understand it, you can run a station "headless" as long as you have a way to turn it on. Later model stations support the "auto restart after power failure" option so you can set this, pull the plug, disconnect the monitor, and then plug/unplug the slab to start/shut off. I've done this & have the headless slab connected via ethernet to a fully equipped slab. So far nothing has fried, but I must admit that I've only started it up & run it a few times in this mode. Comments from the hardware specs??? -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Michael Olan Email: michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK) Senior Lecturer - Computer Science michael@ppp.itm.my American Degree Program Fax: 6-03-5482329 Institut Teknologi MARA Section 17, Shah Alam, Malaysia ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 11:54:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970307115030.7171B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Andrew Chang <tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <E6oGAA.BID@midway.uchicago.edu> On Fri, 7 Mar 1997, Andrew Chang wrote: > When a cube boots, it says something "NIBC present". Can anyone tell me > what the "NIBC" (or NBIC?) mean? I can not find an answer for this. NBIC = NeXTBus Interface Chip It's the controller that lets the CPU board access other devices (like NeXTDimension boards) across the NeXTbus. On the flip side, pulling that chip from the board allows the board to boot without seeing or being seen by other NeXTbus devices (like other CPU boards.) so you can run up to 4 independent CPU modules in one cube case. :) It's not multi-processing, tho. -Isaac
From: dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 9 Mar 1997 10:37:24 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5fu3t4$8ad@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-User: dchin michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) writes: >Hmmm, as I understand it, you can run a station "headless" as long as you >have a way to turn it on. Later model stations support the "auto restart >after power failure" option so you can set this, pull the plug, disconnect >the monitor, and then plug/unplug the slab to start/shut off. Yes you can start up the machine, but you have to change some files in /etc to to tell the machine not to start up the window server or else it will go into a panic because it can't talk to the moniter's circutry to render the dps. (at least thats what I think it is) Also, even if you do that, I don't believe you can use it as a printserver because the dps circutry that is used to run the printer requires that the windowserver be running, and windowserver requires the the moniter. If anyone can prove me wrong on the last point I'd be really happy :) Davin -- _______________________________________________________________________ Davin Chin dchin@u.washington.edu 206-783-7337 (Fax) 206-706-1644 ext 634 (Pager) dchin@nwmicro.com
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Quix Daydream Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 10:16:20 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg42702.thr-21cdc6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg42702.thr-21cdc6.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> If anyone has any information about the Quix Daydream I would be very interested to hear about it. Does (did) it really work? How slowly? Does it require a reboot? I've checked the Quix web site, but the only information they have online now is about their port of the MacOS to IBM PReP hardware and only a mere mention of their port to the NeXT. As a Mac developer moving to OPENSTEP, I have purchased some black hardware for home use. There are two Mac applications that I really can't live without, however, I would rather keep just a single cpu if possible. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Symbios Logic 53C875 SCSI Message-ID: <E6s8w8.G8u@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 15:40:55 GMT Because I remember somebody asked a question about this: I just tried to get a board (Asus SC875) with the new Symbios Logic 53C875 chip working together with the NeXTSTEP Symbios Logic 53C8xx driver version 3.3. This did not work. I got some PCI device error when NS tries to find a board for the driver that I just had installed. If someone has a combination like this running, I would like to hear. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Turbo memory requirements Message-ID: <E6rzBD.8o3@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 12:14:01 GMT In article <5fr4g3$7f3@nntp1.u.washington.edu> dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) writes: > I have a turbo station that I'm trying to upgrade from 8 megs of > ram to more. When I add in 4 16 meg simms, for a total of 64 > megs of ram (all simms are non parity, single sided, non edo 72 > pin simms) the machine recognizes each as a 4 meg stick, for a > total of 16 megs. About the only think I can this of that would > cause this prob is the fact that these simms are single sided > since I don't believe 16 meg simms were avalible in 1992 as single > sided units. Before I spend hours trying to locate 64 megs of > this stuff, does anyone know authoritivily what should or should > not work in this machine? > The RAM testing code assumes that the largest SIMMs sit in the first bank (closest to the power supply). Subsequent banks are assumed to be of same or smaller size. All memory beyond the limit of the first bank won't be scanned and, therefore, won't be recognized. You just need to swap the sticks and it'll be ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.laptops From: justin@lucasarts.com (Justin A. Graham) Subject: Toshiba DeskStationV SCSI Problems Message-ID: <E6t0xv.Ax4@linex6.linex.com> Summary: Need help with SCSI problem Keywords: Toshiba DeskStation Tecra SCSI Sender: news@linex6.linex.com (news admin) Organization: LucasArts Entertainment Co. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 01:46:43 GMT Hello world... I have a Toshiba 720CDT and a DeskStationV as well. For some strange reason, I cannot get the SCSI port in the DSV to function. In the system properties device manager, in the AMD PCI SCSI section under SCSI controllers. The device status reads 'This device is not present, not working properly, or does not have all the drivers installed. See your hardware documentation (Hah! What documentation?) (Code 10.)' Under the driver tab, The driver files list reads 'c:\blah blah...\AMSINT.MPD' I checked with a friend who apparently has no problem using his SCSI port on his DSV, and his driver files list reads the same. The only difference is that in the file details section under the same tab, mine reads 'Not available' for everthing, whereas his has relevant information. I have tried everything from reinstalling windows95 to putzing with various things, deleting the drivers yadda yadda yadda... I have no idea what to do now, I have tried calling the Toshiba 24x7 tech support number many many times, but have never once managed to get through (it's always busy.) Has anyone had a similar problem and managed to fix it? I would love any information anyone may have on correcting this problem. On a less important subject... I would also like to change the HD spin-down setting in the machine settings dialog, to 'never' when the laptop is docked. Everytime I try this, I get an error 'writing to CMOS'. Why can this setting not be modified? Anyone? Cheers Thanks in advance ///////////////////////////////////// // Justin A. Graham // // Senior Programmer // // LucasArts Entertainment Company // // justin@lucasarts.com // /////////////////////////////////////
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 9 Mar 1997 19:25:45 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> Hi, What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru a serial port on a 040/25 machine? Thanks, Emmett
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 1997 23:21:03 -0600 From: yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw Subject: How to adjust a SUN monitor to work with a color turbo ADB? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <857970618.10418@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw, yjwu@phys.sinica.edu.tw, yjwu@unix.cie.rpi.edu We have a spare SUN SPARC II monitor in our office. The model number is GDM-1662B; a 16" SONY trinitron. Is it possible to make some adjustments on this monitor so it can be used with a NeXT color turbo ADB? Recently I bought this NeXT color turbo ADB. It came with a NeXT 17" megapixel display-a SONY trinitron. It seemed to me that both monitors share the same circuit boards; only the revision numbers are different. Definitely their scan frequencies are different. Many components on SUN monitor's main board were missing on NeXT monitor. A bunch of adjusting pots, especially "H" in "H-L" pairs were omitted on NeXT monitor too. I had tried adjusting "H-L" pair of H.Freq and "H-L" pair of Phase on the SUN monitor with no success. Any input? In my work place there is no NeXT machine. I would like to carry the NeXT "pizza box" and sound box as a "portable NeXT". I can use MAC keyboard and mouse.... Given the fact that both monitors are so similar I appreciate any suggestion to make it work. I can do soldering work so if the modification is minor I can manage that too. (Originally I though what I have to do was to adjust those pots, maybe the inductance of a coil etc... Unfortunately the modern display technology is beyond my imagination: those inductors were located far away from those adjusting pots, and they are of fixed value type.) Thank you in advanced. Y.-J. Wu yjwu@NeXT.dge.ntou.edu.tw -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3323bda7.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 10 Mar 97 07:52:07 GMT emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >Hi, > >What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru >a serial port on a 040/25 machine? People have different experiences. I run mine at 57600bps, others can only run at 38400bps. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.3 or OS 4.1 on 040/25 with 32 Megs of RAM Date: 9 Mar 1997 19:23:03 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5fvuqn$jnb@slip.net> Hi, I've tried for months, unsuccesfully to get either NS 3.3 Developer or a more recent NeXTSTEP Operating system on c.s.n.m and I'm about to bite the bullet and buy an OS. Am I better of getting 3.3, an OS which the 040 is more closely optimized for, or 4.1 which someday I might be able to use in a Pentium. Does loading up with memory, say to 64 Megs of RAM tilt the decision toward getting 4.1? Thanks, Emmett
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: Sun, 9 Mar 1997 13:01:03 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970309124134.2055B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <msg42702.thr-21cdc6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> In-Reply-To: <msg42702.thr-21cdc6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Hello again! On Sun, 9 Mar 1997, David Herren wrote: > If anyone has any information about the Quix Daydream I would be very > interested to hear about it. Does (did) it really work? How slowly? Does > it require a reboot? Yes it works. About as fast as a Quadra 900 (or 950, for Turbo machines). Yes, it requires a reboot. It basically boots a custom kernel that interfaces with a little ROM box that connects to the DSP and then boots MacOS off the HD. Supposedly it's very compatible and stable with a few quirks: 1. Can't switch video modes. On a mono, it always runs in 4 greys (or is it b/w?). On a colour slab it runs in "Thousands" mode. On a NextDimension, I guess, it runs in "Millions" mode. 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is normally used for sound on black hardware.) I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's tried 7.6 on it. > As a Mac developer moving to OPENSTEP, I have purchased some black > hardware for home use. There are two Mac applications that I really > can't live without, however, I would rather keep just a single cpu if > possible. You might try running Executor, ARDI's Mac emulator. Version 2.0 is the last version to run under NEXTSTEP, but on black hardware, it uses the 040 directly - no CPU emulation penalty. If you're only running a few applications, and they run under Executor, you can save some $$$ - it's a lot cheaper than even a used Daydream. Another advantage is that it runs as an App concurrently under NEXTSTEP, and you can cut-and-paste between Executor and other NeXT apps. A limited (only in that one can only use it for 10 minutes at a time) demo is available for download from either ftp.next.peak.org or ftp.peanuts.org (or its mirrors). As I recall it's a bit tricky to find, so you may have to dig around for it. -Isaac
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 10 Mar 1997 12:55:08 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: d657b20caff7ebc29455aaffa156e46b - <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> Hi everybody, since there was some demand for it, please find enclosed a posting by Terry Gliedt which describes the "hardware dongle" needed to powerup a monitorless mono station or cube. Please note that, as Michael Olan has pointed out, the main purpose of the dongle is being able to turn the machine on without the keyboard attached, and that using the "auto restart after power failure" feature is be another simple option to start the machine, provided you have a BIOS version that supports it. Please note the paragraph about the power resistor necessary if the machine has no internal disks installed. If memory serves me right, NeXT's power supply needs a certain amount of power drawn from it. Does anybody know whether the amount of power drawn from an internal disk is really sufficient to keep the power supply alive? Hope this helps, Chris --- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472 >>>>> snip Yes, it *is* possible to run your Black hardware without a monitor. The trick is just to get the NeXT to power on, and boot correctly. This is a rewrite of an older FAQ item attributed to "The Onyx Kitten" <onyxcat@pictor.unm.edu> who no longer is at this mail address. The only reason for redoing this is to make clearer what exactly needs doing and report my personal experiences in this process. My thanks to Justin Sowers <jsowers@lehman.com> for his insight and assistance. HARDWARE SETUP The task is to build a DB-19 male plug to replace the DB-19 cable coming from your Black monitor. You can also use the more common DB-25 male plug as a replacement, but you will need to crimp (or remove) the pins on the right-hand side of the DB-25 so they are not in the way. An easily obtainable parts list is as follows: Radio Shack SKU# Qty. Description Price (as of 03/96) ------------------------------------------------------------------ 275-1556 1 2 pack Push-button switches $1.99 271-1317 1 5 pack 470 Ohm, .25 Watt resistors 0.49 276-1549 1 Grey housing for DB-25 connector 1.19 276-1429 1 25 pin male D-sub connector 1.99 Total: $5.66 + tax If you are a stickler for exact parts then you can order DB-19 connectors from: Gateway Electronics of St. Louis, San Diego, and Denver 1-800-669-5810 314-427-6116 VOX 314-427-3147 FAX http://www.gatewayelex.com for $1.50/ea. (as of 3/96). Minimum order for mailing: $10. Many thanks to Carl Lowenstein <cdl@helium.ucsd.edu> for the pointer to this one. NeXT MegaPixel DB-19 female inside DB-25 male (Connector screwmounts shown for positioning) ________________________________________________ \ _ ................................. / _ \(_) : 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 :/ (_) \ : 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 :/ \ ............................./ ---------------------------------------- DB-19 Pinout: 1= +12 V 7= NC 2= -12 V 8= VSYNC 3= MON CLK 9= HSYNC 4= MON DATA OUT 10= VIDEO 5= MON DATA IN 11= +12V 6= MON PWR SWITCH 12= -12V 13-19= GND THE DONGLE Build the following simple circuit with a momentary push button soldered to the 470 ohm resistor. This assembly should then be wired across pins 6 and 19 of the DB-25 shell. If you have an older cube (030 motherboard) then you will need to be sure that the box draws more power than just for the motherboard in order for the machine to stay on. This can happen in ONE of two ways- 1) You have a disk drive, or other power-drawing internal peripheral connected and in use (not that uncommon), -or- 2) You connect a POWER resistor (20 Ohm, at least 20 Watt) across pins 12 and 13 (as labeled for the DB-19 diagram). I do not recommend the power resitor approach, as the resistor gets _very_ hot and remains an active circuit for the time the machine is on. NeXTStation and 040 cube owners do not have to worry about the idiosyncrasies of the older NeXT power supplies. Here's the circuit: \ Momentary push __ \__ | | | | 470 Ohm $ | | | | | v v To DB-25 pins: 6 19 The soldering involved (resistor to switch terminal & connector pin, and wire to switch terminal & connector pin) takes maybe 10 minutes and is not very technical as the pins are individual so you can attach them to your assembly before you put them into the plastic framework the holds them together as a DB-25 (if you are using the RadioShack parts list above). The power resistor mentioned in the FAQ turns out to be unnecessary if you have anything else in the cube that draws power (a disk, etc.). All of this fits nicely into a plastic DB-25 housing with the pushbutton sticking out where the cable would normally exit. NeXT Cube owners will need to shave down the left (as drawn in illustration) side of the housing inorder to get the "dongle" to fit (the monitor port is at the very bottom of the motherboard and doesn't afford much clearance past the securing screwmount). SOFTWARE SETUP You'll need to be sure your NeXT ROM Monitor settings are correct and that your O/S is ready to run without a monitor. To start, go into the NeXT ROM Monitor (press Command-Command-~) and set the current configuration settings (from "p" in the boot monitor) like this: boot command: whatever DRAM tests: yes perform power-on system test: yes sound out tests: no SCSI tests: no loop until keypress: no verbose test mode: no boot extended diagnostics: no serial port A is alternate console: yes <- recommentation allow any ROM command even if password protected: whatever allow boot from any device even if password protected: whatever allow optical drive #0 eject even if password protected: whatever A few people report they needed to do nothing more on a Cube (level of OS unknown). In my experience on a NeXTstation (NS 3.2), it was necessary to make these changes in /etc/ttys: console "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" NeXT on secure #console /usr/lib/NextStep/loginwindow NeXT on secure window=/usr/lib/NextStep/WindowServer onoption="/usr/etc/getty std.9600" ttya "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure ttyb "/usr/etc/getty std.9600" unknown on secure A WORD TO THE WISE I would recommend that before you do anything, you make sure you get serial port A working as an alternate console. You can do this with a simple null-modem serial cable connection to a DOS machine running kermit (or other simple-minded terminal emulator). If your black box gets a kernel panic (like mine) and you have disabled the console in /etc/ttys, you might be left in a state where you must re-install to get your machine back up. It seems prudent to always have a serial console solution in case something serious happens and you need to be able to see what is going on. Don't forget that you should remove any printer that is configured for serial port A if you are also using serial port A as an alternate console or serial tty. BOOTING WITHOUT A MONITOR Once the DB plug is built, the ROM Monitor settings are correct, your serial A port console works, and /etc/ttys is correct, then simply power down the NeXT, remove the DB-19 monitor cable, attach your new DB plug and press the momentary switch/button. The box should power on and go through its normal boot sequence. You'll see ROM Monitor messages on the console on serial port A (you are using one, aren't you?). CAVEAT EMPTOR I've tried to be very careful about these instructions, but maybe I missed something, or maybe your situation is somehow different from mine. I might be able to say something that will be helpful, but maybe not. All in all, you are on your own, so be careful. In any case I am not responsible for what you do to your own hardware. -- =================================================================== Terry Gliedt tpg@fv.com MIME OK 507/356-4512 First Virtual Holdings http://www.fv.com/ http://www.hps.com/~tpg/ <<<<< snip
From: Paul WINDEY <windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color monitor problem Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:14:09 +0100 Organization: Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Message-ID: <33242541.29B6@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I have (surprise) a problem with a Color Monitor (Color NeXTStation, non ADB, non turbo). Since it is not the well known diming I hope it could be fixed by bying some part. Here is the problem: -image enlarged horizontally -cycles of normal and dime brightness separated by short interval of totally black screen. I guess that since at times the brightness is fine it is not a problem with the tube. Could it be a simpel part that I could get from god knows where? Otherwise I saw a post from people in Canada (on luoma home page at peak.org) talking about a "pigtail" which permits to connect a standard PC monitor to Black hardware. Does anyone have experience with this device? If yes will it work with any PC monitor, if not what are the pecs the PC monitor should have. Thank you for time and advice -- Paul Windey, LPTHE Universite Pierre et Marie Curie (Paris VI) Bte 126 4pl Jussieu F-75252 Paris CEDEX 05, FRANCE e-mail: windey@lpthe.jussieu.fr tel: 33-01-4427 7456 (Secretariat: 4427 4121) FAX: 33-01-4427 73 93
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: 10 Mar 97 10:53:46 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF4998C5-1159E@207.147.60.9> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970309124134.2055B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "David Herren" <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac <mailto:isaac@pobox.com> wrote: > 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is > normally used for sound on black hardware.) Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, use the DSP port? > > I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's > tried 7.6 on it. WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no problems. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Martin Oettle Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Wanted: Disktab - entry Date: 10 Mar 1997 14:06:03 GMT Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Germany Message-ID: <5g14gb$36h@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de> Hi, I'm looking for a Disktab-entry for an IBM DCAS 34300 Ultra SCSI - 3 HardDisk. Can somebody help me? Thanx in advance Ciao Martin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Ulrich Wiedner) Subject: Black Color Monitor Replacement Message-ID: <E6u6vC.HGw@news.cern.ch> Keywords: monitor Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 16:52:24 GMT Hi everybody, My black FIMI Monitor for my Color NeXTstation just died and I want to replace it with another (non-NeXT) monitor. Now I was just reading in a Sony manual that e.g. the Sony 17SE2T monitor goes into power-saving mode if it receives no signals on the vertical and horizontal synchronization. But with the NeXTstation there are no extra synchronisation signals, just RGB. Does this mean I cannot use one of these modern monitors, because they will automatically go into power-saving mode? Does anyone have experience with this or see a solution? I'd also be grateful for any recommendations of specific model/brand names of 17" monitors that work well with a color NeXTstation. Thanks...Ulrich
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problem: NEC CDR-1400C Date: 10 Mar 1997 17:44:13 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5g1h9d$64c@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> Organisation: RRR Hi, does anybody out there got a NEC CDR-1400C CD-ROM to work with NS 3.3? The Driver is detectet by the EIDE (3.35) Driver but then, in the console, there is only the following message repeated over and over and the drive just clicks: hc1: ATAPI Device 0 : Packet command failed. Retrying ... hc1: ATAPI Device 0 : No Data Request: d1 thanks for any help Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6uIBA.G54@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 20:59:34 GMT References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970309124134.2055B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <AF4998C5-1159E@207.147.60.9> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <AF4998C5-1159E@207.147.60.9>, Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac <mailto:isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? Actually, Isaac wasn't quite right. The DSP is not needed for simple sound playback at least from the hardware point of view--the D/A converters and stuff live in the monitor. That's why white machines can do sound withing a DSP- capable sound card. I would imagine that Daydream doesn't support sound for some other reason. >> I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's >> tried 7.6 on it. > >WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no >problems. > Well, maybe "the usual problems" would have been a better description. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ... on using the wrong monitor on the wrong system ... :^) Date: 10 Mar 1997 19:35:48 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m267yzp8nv.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I am looking at Sony Color monitor equipped with 13w3 / 4BNC connection. it looks like the signal going through are blue, red, green and composite sync. Could anyone explain to me how composite sync works? I am very close to figuring out how to do this. Regards Nick PS. any pointers? -- B. N. Bondoc pager: 514 - 930 - 1385 ===================================================== office addr: Ernest Rutherford Physics Building Physics Department, McGill University 3600 University Street, Room 223 Montreal, PQ, Canada, H3A 2T8 phone: 514 - 398 - 5938 fax: 514 - 398 - 7022 =====================================================
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (HELP) installing & using modem Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:16:01 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1003971717550001@i511.oro.net> I am the new owner of a used Turbo Cube... Running a large 21" color display and loving it. Problem is getting my modem to work. I did buy the correct NeXT modem cable as I was told they are different than the mac cable. Anyway, it is a Practical Peripherals 28.8 Fax Modem for the MAC. I did follow all the help files on installation and can get the modem to connect to my MAC over the phone lines and can also get the NeXT Cube to answer an incoming fax from my MAC but after about 30 seconds of connection between the two machines, the NEXT disconnects. My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list of modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two choices. One is "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I tried each but both kept hanging up. Any help to get this working would be great... Maybe the cable I just purchased is the problem or.... Tom
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:19:42 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1003971721360001@i511.oro.net> I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. Is there a better option out there that I should buy. Tom
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 10 Mar 97 20:32:58 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF4A2085-210823@207.147.60.126> References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Mar 7, 1997 1:06 PM, bestor@cs.wisc.edu <mailto:bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > NBIC means NeXTbus Interface Chip. Its a custom chip on the NeXTcube > motherboard for interfacing over the NeXTbus backplane with other > peripheral boards (i.e. the NeXTdimension). All the 040 turbo and > non-Turbo cube motherboards have it, but the original 030 > cubes motherboards do not. NeXTstation mono/color/Turbo motherboards > don't have it as they have no internal NeXTbus expansion bus. Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? For instance, can you remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you can do this with an '030 board. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:10:08 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5g2eu0$9s@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <Pine.A32.3.90.970310143702.25816A-100000@campus.her.itesm.mx> Cc: al528580@campus.her.itesm.mx In <Pine.A32.3.90.970310143702.25816A-100000@campus.her.itesm.mx> Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro wrote: > Well, my problem is: > I just got the NeXTStep 3 upgrade (yes, a little late), and a cd-rom > drive (that toshiba recomended in the FAQ), but I just can't install it!. > This is what I am doing and my hardware is a Cube turbo 68040 with 16 > ram, bios v59, and the original 400 meg hdd and floppy, runnig NeXTstep > 2.x. The machine has not been "touched" since it was brought (no > upgrades, no nothing) > After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, > I turned on the cube and press <command> and "~". Then I write the following > line (with the cd in the drive): bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 . The > machine's response is NO SCSI drive. > I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package > any clue? thanks > the only clue, run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package. > -Francisco Romo as I recall NeXT needs to teach the cube about the CD-ROM drive, hence the floppy. try that then see. it's been a few since I did the 2.x >> 3.0 upgrade, but I think that's it. Of course, that was with the NeXT CD-ROM drive, don't imagine the FAQ would steer you wrong, so the toshiba should work... -rick
From: atossell@wenet.net (Allan Tossell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040 Mono Cube won't boot/black screen. Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 19:15:33 -0800 Organization: A customer of Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <atossell-ya023580001003971915330001@news.pacbell.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi. I am brand new to NeXT but have some experience with Mac and PC hardware. Received my "new" 040 mono cube today, with a Seagate ST1480N hard drive shipped separately with NEXTSTEP 3.2 (I think) installed. This was supposedly an ex-govt. machine and had original drive gutted. I installed the drive in the bay and connected it per the cursory instructions I'd been given over the phone from the broker. After connecting the monitor cable, keyboard, mouse, and power cord, I powered on the machine, got a "beep" sound, fan noise from the cube, but the screen remained black, and there was no disk-read noise. The monitor appeared to be getting power, since heat was noticeable from the top. In checking the ribbon cable for the hard drive, I see what appear to be identical connectors, one at the end, one in the middle. Attaching either one to the back end of the drive accomplishes nothing. There are two power connectors for hard drives; one was tie-wrapped to the power-supply assembly, the other one was floating loose, so the latter was the one I plugged in. The broker from whom I bought this system is out of town till mid-week, and I had hoped to at least get the system up and running today. Am I missing something idiotically simple on this drive installation and setup? Thanks for any suggestions or assistance. Regards, Allan Tossell atossell@wenet.net
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can NS run on this notebook? Date: 11 Mar 1997 03:34:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm287-00.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5g2js8$ni3$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Can NS run on the following notebook? It is for sale in Europe and Asia, not sure about the US (yet). Model: Chicony MP-975 Display size: 13.3" !!! (Active TFT) Video circuity: Chips and Technologies 65550 PCI with 2 MB video RAM Number of colors: 65.536 Resolution: 1.204 x 768 Processor: 166 or 200MHz Pentium This would be a cool machine to run NS on, but I am not sure about the drivers. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Message-ID: <332215F5.736@lamg.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 1997 17:44:21 -0800 From: Greg Neagle <greg_neagle@lamg.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Help: ATI mach64 problems References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5frrac$40r0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Ted Allen wrote: >Greg Neagle <greg_neagle@lamg.com> wrote: >> I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the >> all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI >> mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in >> any mode but 640x480 grayscale. >> [text snipped] >> >> Any help or advice appreciated. > >Do you have the PCIBus driver loaded? Yes - PCI Bus Support(v4.00). Configure.app sees it as a PCI card, even though it's actually integrated onto the motherboard.
From: msevestr@garion4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 12:47:47 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? Thank you. Matt
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: 11 Mar 1997 02:33:15 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g2g9b$nvq@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <Pine.A32.3.90.970310143702.25816A-100000@campus.her.itesm.mx> Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro <al528580@campus.her.itesm.mx> writes: > After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, I > turned on the cube and press <command> and "~". Then I write the > following line (with the cd in the drive): > bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 > The machine's response is NO SCSI drive. > > I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on > the package Put the floppy in the floppy drive. when you're in the monitor, type: bfd (boot off floppy disk). The floppy will find the cd-rom, and things should work fine. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 or OS 4.1 on 040/25 with 32 Megs of RAM Date: 11 Mar 1997 03:11:48 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5g2ihk$ong@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5fvuqn$jnb@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > I've tried for months, unsuccesfully to get either NS 3.3 > Developer or a more recent NeXTSTEP Operating system on > c.s.n.m and I'm about to bite the bullet and buy an OS. > > Am I better of getting 3.3, an OS which the 040 is more > closely optimized for, or 4.1 which someday I might be > able to use in a Pentium. Note that NS-3.3 works on a Pentium too -- this reply is coming off a Pentium system. Of course, it'll depend on the specifics of the pentium system you're buying into (cards, etc). The big advantage with 4.1 would be that it's all of the OpenStep API's, which are the API's you should be working with now. It'd be a shame to develop something on NS-3.3 only to have a bunch of extra work to do if you were going to run it on Rhapsody, or Solaris, or GNUstep (when that comes out). > Does loading up with memory, say to 64 Megs of RAM > tilt the decision toward getting 4.1? More memory would certainly be nice for 4.1. I haven't installed 4.1 yet (even though I own a copy!), because the two main NeXTstations I could put it on both max out at 32 meg. I could put it on this NS/Intel box, but I haven't had the time yet... The trick is that I want to have the option of falling back to NS-3.3 on Intel, so I want to set up some dual-boot situation. Certainly doable, but I haven't done it yet. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstation RAM question Date: 11 Mar 1997 15:10:54 GMT Organization: NORTEL - Northern Telecom Canada Message-ID: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Howdy Folks: I finally got around to putting some more RAM into my NeXTstation machine at home. I went from 8MB (8x1MB 30-pin) to 20MB (4x1MB + 4x4MB 30-pin). However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. Could this cause any problems? It seems to work OK (system recognizes the memory, tells me I have 20MB of RAM), but the load on my system seems to have gone up a small amount. 'uptime' reports loads of between .3 and .5 all the time, even when the only application running is the Workspace Manager. Is it the mixed RAM, or is it my imagination? At least my swapdrive is a lot quieter now :-) thanks... Rob -- Rob Parkhill, Software Guy, Nortel | "How's this for a future vision: Scott rparkhil@nortel.ca | McNealy has Bill Gates in a headlock, members.tripod.com/~parkhill | while Larry Ellison kicks Bill in the +1 613 763 6264 (Ottawa, Ontario) | groin and swipes his wallet." - Alex Lash
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6vvHL.A1K@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 14:41:45 GMT References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> <AF4A2085-210823@207.147.60.126> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <AF4A2085-210823@207.147.60.126>, Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? Not while it's turned on. ;-) >For instance, can you >remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you >can do this with an '030 board. > Sure, I've talked to people who have done this. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rdingman@cc.mcafee.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Newbie question : Hard Disk Space Date: 11 Mar 1997 17:21:42 GMT Organization: McAfee Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <5g44b6$2t2@news.mcafee.com> References: <5fso95$1jp@ttacs7.ttu.edu> To install NS3.3(everything in English) it takes about 250MB. ryan
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation RAM question Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 12:19:12 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0n9NEEG00iWYQ5p34h@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> In-Reply-To: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Mar-97 NeXTstation RAM question by Rob Parkhill@bnr.ca > I finally got around to putting some more RAM into my > NeXTstation machine at home. I went from 8MB (8x1MB 30-pin) > to 20MB (4x1MB + 4x4MB 30-pin). > > However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. > > Could this cause any problems? It won't make a bit of difference-- the NeXT machines using 30-pin SIMMs run them at 100 ns, and faster chips (well, up to a certain point) don't matter. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should have over 8million sectors? -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:17:57 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5g4b55$2f9@news.next.com> References: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> SEVESTRE MATTHIEU writes > Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? > > Thank you. > > Matt Why yes, we have. Works great, although it's tricky getting the NT booter to boot NEXTSTEP. I did get it working once, but I've since forgot how to set it up, and went back to using the NeXT booter... -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (HELP) installing & using modem Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:12:13 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5g4lbt$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <tj-1003971717550001@i511.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-1003971717550001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I am the new owner of a used Turbo Cube... Running a large 21" color > display and loving it. Problem is getting my modem to work. I did buy > the correct NeXT modem cable as I was told they are different than the mac > cable. > <edited for television> > > My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list of > modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two choices. One is > "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I tried each but both kept > hanging up. > Maybe the cable I just purchased is the problem or.... cable is most likely fine. driver is most likely not. the fax solution of choice for NeXT is Black&White Software's NXFax which works wonderfully, if you have a supported modem. I would try to contact either the NXFax folks or the NSFaq's for a list. Don't recall Practical Peripherals on the "list" but haven't looked in awhile. > > Tom >
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 11 Mar 1997 22:19:47 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5g4lq3$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <tj-1003971721360001@i511.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-1003971721360001@i511.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. Is > there a better option out there that I should buy. > > Tom > popular wisdom says that unless you are developing for OpenStep compliancy (including Rhapsody), 3.3 will do you fine. I don't recall if you have 3.3 User & Developer or just 3.3 User. the apps are, or maybe I should say, the user experience is mostly the same anyway. if you have edu discount and extra $300.00 you can't lose too much though getting 4.x (currently 4.1, 4.2 due real soon now.) One thing OPENSTEP/MACH gets you is preinstalled PPP. Another thing is newer NEXTIME. Both 3.3 and 4.x have MIME capable Mail. -Rick
From: siren@surf.pangea.ca (Betty Siren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 11 Mar 1997 15:39:20 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Message-ID: <5g4je8$975@surf.pangea.ca> References: <5fhg77$lpu@news.quicklink.com> <5fmpdm$10bk@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <5ftnsd$61j@rumah.pc.my> <5fu3t4$8ad@nntp1.u.washington.edu> dchin@u.washington.edu (Davin Chin) writes: >Yes you can start up the machine, but you have to change some files in /etc to >to tell the machine not to start up the window server or else it will go into >a panic because it can't talk to the moniter's circutry to render the dps. >(at least thats what I think it is) Also, even if you do that, I don't believe >you can use it as a printserver because the dps circutry that is used to run the >printer requires that the windowserver be running, and windowserver requires the >the moniter. If anyone can prove me wrong on the last point I'd be really happy On a headless cube, getting rid of the English lady's voice might postpone the kernel panic. A sound box fixed it. I wouldn't run WindowServer without one. I now just use the headless cube for an extra OD, so need neither WindowServer nor the sound box. Would love to run 2 OD's on 1 cube but don't know how. ... Richard Tilley <siren@pangea.ca>
From: "Lukas Klement" <lk832170@pbox.dialup.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanjet IIP Date: 11 Mar 1997 23:04:51 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <01bc2ea2$7e8d4b60$4d03e289@lukas> I am thinking about buying Openstep. That's why I'd like to know, if it is possible to use a HP Scanner, Model Scanjet IIp in Openstep. Is there anything comparable to a Twain-Driver? I havn't found anything on the HP WWW-Page! Bye Lukas lk32170@pbox.dialup.rwth-aachen.de
From: wongj@rpi.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Mystique Date: 12 Mar 1997 01:51:28 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Does anyone know if there is a Matrox Mystique display driver out for NS3.3 for Intel? Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>--
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 Intel hangs after Starting Up for first time Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:46 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just finished installing the Nextstep Essentials and added devices. In the installation manual, it says after I do this, I'm supposed to pick the language and keyboard settings, but instead the following happens. After booting, a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Nick
From: spamblock.jimmilz@worldnet.att.net (Jim Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 05:44:29 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) wrote: > >I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's >block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still >leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that >it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should >have over 8million sectors? > >-- >Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College >707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. >707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 ><fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx> After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the drive? Regards, Jim Miller Chicagoland
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 won't startup after just installing Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:48 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <313f9090.1233103@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After booting OpenStep (after installing the essentials and configuring devices), a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (CyboBob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep for Intel won't startup after just installing Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 09:10:48 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3140900b.1100270@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit After booting OpenStep (after installing the essentials and configuring devices), a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it wasn't doing anything. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Nick
From: jut@ukrv.de (Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.-U. Thieme) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.1 Intel hangs after Starting Up for first time Date: 12 Mar 1997 09:07:18 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5g5ro6$t80$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> Cc: cybobob@mindspring.com In <313f8f14.853043@news.mindspring.com> CyboBob wrote: > I just finished installing the Nextstep Essentials and added devices. > > In the installation manual, it says after I do this, I'm supposed to > pick the language and keyboard settings, but instead the following > happens. > > After booting, a window titled something like "Starting OpenStep" > says, "Starting Services", "Checking Disks", etc. Then says "Startup > Completed". After this, the screen doesn't change, but the HD light > keeps blinking. I let it do this for about 20 min after deciding it > wasn't doing anything. > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. Post your hardware-list please. Any videocardÂs have problems with graphic-boot in context with any motherboards. Use "config=default" on the "boot:"-prompt (startup with the defaults and only in standard vga). Is the system ok, then read the NeXTAnswers (see 1001-masterdocument for searching your videocard). CIAO JUT > > Nick > -- -------------------------------------------------------------- - Dipl.-Ing. (FH) J.- U. Thieme - -------------------------------------------------------------- - send to : jut@ukrv.de or jut@rz.charite.hu-berlin.de - - -> NeXTMail & PGP welcome <- - - phone : +49 30 450 66127 - - fax: +49 30 450 66937 - -------------------------------------------------------------- - location : virchow-hospital in berlin (germany) - -------------------------------------------------------------- - "I am saddened -- not by Microsoft's success, I have no - - problem with their success, they've earned their success - - ...for the most part -- I have a problem with the fact - - that they just make really third-rate products." - - - - Steven Paul Jobs - --------------------------------------------------------------
From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 12 Mar 1997 10:50:40 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Message-ID: <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: : I've got a Seagate Barracuda 4LP ST34371W drive that has had it's : block size changed to 2048. When I change it back to 512, it still : leaves the sector count at only 2million. How can I convince it that : it's not a 1gig drive, but that it's actually a 4gig drive and should : have over 8million sectors? Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending from manufacturer and model). See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. -- Ralf.
From: Don McKinnon <Don.McKinnon@mail.house.gov> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I need software support help in DC Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 08:40:11 -0500 Organization: U.S. House of Representatives Message-ID: <3326B23B.27E7@mail.house.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have no NeXT skills. I have a slab I've been using since 1990 and I need to hire someone to fix a few bugs that have accumulated: I can connect to Novell server, but I can't get printer connectivity. My memory seems to run out and crash everything. I need to have someone help me set up my modem. If its possible, I'd like to be able to connect to an NT server and to determine if I could run NeXT and Windows 95 from the same machine. If you or someone you know could help, please let me know what your hourly rate would be. Thanks and regards, Don McKinnon 202 225 2770
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 12 Mar 1997 14:15:57 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5g6dqt$1hk6@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> <E6q23y.7uI@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) wrote: >In article <7xiv34f175.fsf@burrow.muc.de> Markus Gloede ><markusg@burrow.muc.de> writes: >I haven't done it on my own so I can't give you type numbers or other >specs but I recommend thermocontrolled Pabst fans (German made quality >parts ;-) Likely not to be sold at RadioShack :-( Part no., please :-) Some of us live in Germany, and can get Pabst fans without problems ;-) >The disk drive noise is much more common to be the real problem. Due to a >design flaw in the mounting bracket there is no good way other as to >remove the drive and put it in an external enclosure. I've recently bought a 2GB Fireball, since it get's only luke warm, and it's basically noiseless. You'd think there's no disk drive in the machine at all, it's really very quiet. I'm aware that some people have problems with Quantum drives, but I suspect that those are Atlas drives and other high rpm drives. The fireball rotates at merely 5600, and hence is a lot less noisy, gets less hot, and hopefully :-) lives longer. Many greetings, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Mystique Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 08:19:14 Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory Message-ID: <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> References: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> There is no driver. It is possible that the Mill. driver will do the job. But they have a different chip set. As You will find in all pages from NeXT... they won't support NS3.3 with new drivers nor upgrades. In the case of display drivers You can use them from OS4.0 maybe OS4.1. I by myself using a OS4.0 Matrox driver under NS3.3. Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970309124134.2055B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <AF4998C5-1159E@207.147.60.9> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <3324f4ab.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 11 Mar 97 05:59:07 GMT "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac <mailto:isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? The physical DSP port is not this issue. It is the DSP chip itself. It is used to generate sounds. Having to applications with high requirements running at the same time may be difficult. Although, Next had it doing multitasking sound. I have actually played two sound files simultaneously! It is like trying to listen to two tv channels at once. Very difficult for us humans to make sense of it. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
From: Timm Wetzel <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? Date: 12 Mar 1997 16:26:23 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Hi, is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 Intel system, but the S3Generic driver fails to load with the following messages (beta, released and 4.01 driver versions): Get Controller Info returned error (eax = 0x4f00) Display0: could not determine memory size _IOProbeDriver: No such device, device S3GenericDisplayDriver unit 0 The system then falls back to VGA. If this merely means that the 928 is not detected because of Spea-specific implementation differences, I'd like to know how to adapt (and interpret :-) the driver's expert settings. Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? Hardware config follows. Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 586) Primary memory: 16.00 MB Hostname: sidney Boot Drivers Floppy PS2Keyboard Adaptec1542B EISABus ISASerialPort Drivers: Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 Adaptec 154x at IRQ 11; DMA 5; ports 0x330-0x333 EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf System Serial at IRQ 4; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff System Serial at IRQ 3; ports 0x2f8-0x2ff EtherLink III ISA at IRQ 10; ports 0x300-0x30f 0x110-0x110 Serial Mouse S3 Generic VL ports 0x3b0-0x3df map 0x03800000-0x03ffffff 0xa0000-0xbffff 0xc0000-0xcffff; >EoP7< Timm --- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <twetzel@gwdg.de> Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6xz85.CDK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:57:41 GMT In article <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de>, Ralf Jork <jork@dvs-hannover.de> wrote: >Set the appropriate number of blocks in the block descriptor for a >Mode Select command (all 0 or 0xFF might work as well - depending >from manufacturer and model). >See the Seagate "Disc Drive ... Product Manual, Volume 2" for more info. It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can guess, but I don't know it precisely. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi From: fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us (Chris Osborn) Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Message-ID: <E6xz26.CCx@nvc.cc.ca.us> Sender: news@nvc.cc.ca.us Organization: Napa Valley College References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 17:54:05 GMT In article <332641a1.4099545@netnews.worldnet.att.net>, Jim Miller <spamblock.jimmilz@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >After issuing the command to set the blocksize to 512 (mode page 03h >bytes 12 and 13), are you sending the FORMAT UNIT command to the >drive? Yes, that's what I've been doing. Unfortunately the drive doesn't want to change its sector count from what it was when the block size was at 2048. -- Chris Osborn, Network Administrator Napa Valley College 707 253 3130 - Voice 2277 Napa-Vallejo Hwy. 707 253 3063 - Fax Napa, CA 94558 <fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us> <http://www.nvc.cc.ca.us/~fozztexx>
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is Cube NIBC? Date: 12 Mar 1997 18:09:00 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5g6rfs$g8f@news1.voicenet.com> References: <5fplfn$229s@news.doit.wisc.edu> <AF4A2085-210823@207.147.60.126> <E6vvHL.A1K@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : In article <AF4A2085-210823@207.147.60.126>, : Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: : >Can one remove this chip without hosing the MB? : Not while it's turned on. ;-) : >For instance, can you : >remove it and operate two '040 MB's in the same cube housing? I know you : >can do this with an '030 board. : > You sure can, but make sure you do the backplane modification also... -Darren
From: h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2920? Date: 12 Mar 1997 18:23:39 GMT Organization: University of Economics and Business Administration, Vienna, Austria Message-ID: <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> Is there any chance that Openstep will ever support the Adaptec 2920 (Future Domain 16XX) SCSI controller? Am I dreaming? thanx, Marcus
From: Bastian Schlueter <Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Win NT4.0 & Next 3.3 Date: 11 Mar 1997 19:50:02 GMT Organization: Marvins home, a small place in Universe Message-ID: <5g4d1a$8eb@marvin.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de> References: <5g3k9j$7tm@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Organisation: RRR msevestr@garion4 (SEVESTRE MATTHIEU) wrote: > Does anyone tryed to have both Win NT 4 & Nexstep on the same disk? Yes, no problem. ciao Bastian -- e-mail: Bastian.Schlueter@gmd.de http://www.first.gmd.de/~buzz RRR100R -- Was wir da machen ist verboten, aber es ist wunderbar (TSS) --
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:07:21 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? I keep seeing Hitachi, Fimi, Trinitron. I realize that these refer to the tube manufacturers, but are any of these MegaPixel with the Frog Design stand? -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@eartlink.net (310)442-8086
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:12:36 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: : How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are : there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have : to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a : standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, : then the monitor later. Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? Not hard at all. Open case, slide board in. It drives MegaPixel color displays, if that's what you mean. Get a 21". Speed is a relative comparison; the idea behind the board was that it was to make 32bpp as fast as 2bpp. It's pretty fast, nonetheless. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: Tue, 11 Mar 1997 23:05:22 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, then the monitor later. Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks (oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. -- Rich Markle >> rmarkle@eartlink.net (310)442-8086
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From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adaptec 2920? Date: 12 Mar 1997 20:16:37 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5g72v5$9i4@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> In article <5g6sbb$7ad@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> h9001648@obelix.wu-wien.ac.at (marcus) writes: > Is there any chance that Openstep will ever support the Adaptec 2920 > (Future Domain 16XX) SCSI controller? Am I dreaming? Yes, you are probably dreaming. Either go with little or no hassle EIDE, or get a good BusMastering SCSI card. SymbiosLogic PCI boards can be found for <$100. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 12 Mar 1997 21:03:09 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: >How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are >there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have >to do to make it work. Simple. Just unscrew the back and slide it in slot 2, just to the left of the power supply. No cables, nothing. Just works! >Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a >standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, >then the monitor later. Nope. You need a color monitor. The ND board video out drives one of the NeXT color monitors, or anything with a sync-on-green 3W13 plug (like most SUNs I think). But you can keep your old mono MegaPixel plugged into the 040 board at the same time and double your viewable workspace area, which is quite nice. >Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? >I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks >(oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. If you have a double-headed ND system then the ND board will have zero affect on anything on the mono side of the workspace. It only gets used for drawing color stuff. It has little/no overhead on other system operations (e.g. disk i/o, DSP, etc) so you should see no change in performance over your mono Cube for mono apps. The question then becomes how does the ND compare to a color NeXT system, to which I have no good answer. The ND has a dedicated processor which offloads a lot of the drawing duties from the 040, but then it is also doing stuff in 32 bit color instead of 8! Personally, if you already have a NeXTcube, love old NeXT hardware and can get your hands on an ND board cheap then go for it. You can always use the color monitor and memory (the ND takes up to 64MB - 8x8MB 72pin SIMMs) if you upgrade later. - Gareth PS - I'll be posting something about a new NeXTdimension mailing list and web site in teh next day or so.
From: wongj@rpi.edu (Jasper Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Mystique Date: 13 Mar 1997 00:29:28 GMT Organization: IDT Message-ID: <5g7hp8$eh7@nnrp1.farm.idt.net> References: <5g5270$g2k@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Cc: Koplien@vnet.IBM.com In <5g5lds$134m@grimsel.zurich.ibm.com> Koplien@vnet.IBM.com wrote: > There is no driver. It is possible that the Mill. driver will do the job. But they have a > different chip set. As You will find in all pages from NeXT... they won't support NS3.3 with > new drivers nor upgrades. In the case of display drivers You can use them from OS4.0 maybe > OS4.1. I by myself using a OS4.0 Matrox driver under NS3.3. > > Henry > Thanks for the info....hmmm, I don't think the Mill driver will work though. Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>--
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can you use NeXTstation WO monitor? Date: 12 Mar 1997 23:56:23 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5g7fr7$etf@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <199703071750.MAA04625@kira.peak.org> <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Cc: neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM In <5g10bc$1kcr@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Christian Neuss wrote: > Hi everybody, > > since there was some demand for it, please find enclosed a posting > by Terry Gliedt which describes the "hardware dongle" needed to > powerup a monitorless mono station or cube. Please note that, as > Michael Olan has pointed out, the main purpose of the dongle is > being able to turn the machine on without the keyboard attached, > and that using the "auto restart after power failure" feature > is be another simple option to start the machine, provided you > have a BIOS version that supports it. > > Please note the paragraph about the power resistor necessary > if the machine has no internal disks installed. > > If memory serves me right, NeXT's power supply needs a certain > amount of power drawn from it. Does anybody know whether the > amount of power drawn from an internal disk is really sufficient > to keep the power supply alive? My most recent experience with 3 different NeXT Cube power supplies is that "it all depends". I could not find any correlation with age of the power supply as indicated by serial number, and whether it would turn on without the load of the MegaPixel monitor. Apparently the power supply needs to have some current drawn from the -12V leg as well as from the +12V. Both the cooling fan and the hard drive draw from the +12V supply. I tried various values of resistance as a load on the -12V supply, and found that a resistor of 120 ohms, making a current drain of 100mA, was sufficient in all cases. Remember that many Cubes with 68040 processor boards were originally 68030 NeXTs that got upgraded early on, and have old power supplies. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6yEvn.nx6@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:35:46 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g72nk$a3r$1@darla.visi.com>, David Young <dwy@ace.net> wrote: >Not hard at all. Open case, slide board in. > ...and close the case again. :) You'll also need a Sound Box if you aren't going to run your mono display as well. You can run both displays at once and get a nice big wide workspace. >It drives MegaPixel color displays, if that's what you mean. Get a 21". The 21" monitors are really nice. Not super-crisp like a Trinitron but not fuzzy either. Scanned images look phenomenal! And yes, text is sharp enough to read for hours. >Speed is a relative comparison; the idea behind the board was that >it was to make 32bpp as fast as 2bpp. It's pretty fast, nonetheless. > You can tell the difference--windows don't move as smoothly as they do with the mono video. However, it's not annoying. Given the quality of the display I doubt the speed will bother you. My only annoyance is that damn noisy fan in my 21"....grrrr.... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6yEpx.nt7@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 23:32:21 GMT References: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net>, Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: >Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? Yes; I have aone on my desk. >I keep seeing >Hitachi, Fimi, Trinitron. I realize that these refer to the tube >manufacturers, but are any of these MegaPixel with the Frog Design >stand? > No, there were no colour monitors sold that were based on the NeXT/FrogDesign design. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 19:41:03 -0600 From: kinnard@ibm.net Subject: FS:NeXT N4000 Monitor Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <858216763.18371@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service I have an older N4000 without microphone that is supposed to be good. I don't have any way to test it so will sell at a parts price of $30. This is for pick up in Austin, TX only. I don't want to try to ship it. The tag on the inside says "SONY N4000". I will ship the PC boards if someone wants just those parts. Email kinnard@ibm.net -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6yn3C.J11@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 02:33:12 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: >Nope. You need a color monitor. The ND board video out drives one of the >NeXT color monitors, or anything with a sync-on-green 3W13 plug (like >most SUNs I think). I've found at least one Sun monitor that refused to work with the ND. It's a Trinitron one with the stupid remote-control for the brightness and such. I only mucked with it for about two minutes, though, so perhaps it could be made to work. >If you have a double-headed ND system then the ND board will have zero >affect on anything on the mono side of the workspace. Although this is technically true, there's a subtle gotcha. Normally, a mono screen will be run in, for lack of a better term, "native 2bpp mode". By this I mean that the Windowserver will dig out the 2bpp formats from TIFF files, will make your Workspace background colour nice, won't try to shade the dock, and so on. However, if you run dual-headed the whole workspace (ie. the stuff on both monitors) is stored at 32bpp. It will be dithered down to 2bpp on the mono screen. What this means is that application icons may not look as good as they once did, since they're no longer using the human-optimised 2bpp images. Furthermore your background may also be dithered, which is mightally annoying. It's been a couple of years since I've run dual-headed, so I can't remember whether the dock rectangles will be shaded or not. This is all under 3.2. Perhaps subsequent releases have some super-cool fix for this annoyance. >It >only gets used for drawing color stuff. It has little/no overhead on >other system operations (e.g. disk i/o, DSP, etc) so you should see no >change in performance over your mono Cube for mono apps. That's true. However, since rendering is now done at 32bpp, window backing stores will be MUCH larger than before. It's a good idea to stuff lots of memory on the ND board to prevent it sucking up all your system board RAM and then paging to disk. I have 36MB on mine and am pretty happy. >The ND has a dedicated processor which offloads a lot >of the drawing duties from the 040, but then it is also doing stuff in 32 >bit color instead of 8! > Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. Also, Color slabs use 16bpp, not 8. >Personally, if you already have a NeXTcube, love old NeXT >hardware and can get your hands on an ND board cheap then go for it. For sure. Like I said before, it's one of the most beautiful displays I've ever seen. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112320.SAA10120@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:20:07 -0500 Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - Responding To: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:19:42 GMT Message-ID: 0746fd8d2f00f559886c356942ccaa25 - > I have pre-installed version 3.3 of the NeXTstep OS on my system. > Is there a better option out there that I should buy. "better" here is a relative term. If you want the latest and greatest, you'll want OpenStep 4.1 However OpenStep will run slower on the turbo slab. Not that you can't run it, but it will be slower. <myopinion> Right now NeXTstep is all you probably need as a non-developer. If you are going to develop apps, you'll want OpenStep, but I'd wait for 4.2 (due this summer???) as 4.0 and 4.1 have their woes, and 4.2 will probably be a lot better (especially if it's anything like 3.2 as compared to 3.1 and 3.0). So if you have 3.3, use 3.3 for now. If you want to start developing, get 4.1 but except that compiles, etc will take some time. Get a bunch of RAM and keep on hummin' </myopinion> TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: Dan Bikle <dbikle@rahul.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 13 Mar 1997 08:56:30 GMT Organization: Bikle Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-User: dbikle Keywords: NeXT horizontal streaks Hi NeXT fans, This post is coming from a NeXT I *JUST* dredged out of my closet. It's running "3.0". The chip is a 68040 and it resides on a card in one of those boat-anchor-magnesium-cubes (not the pizza box style). I think it was manufactured about 1991 or 2. After I dusted him off and connected the periphs.... I pressed that magic button on the keyboard. It ... booted HURRAY!!!! Next, I tried out the 400dpi printer. I encountered a small problem. Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running across the page. I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. If memory serves me right, the toner cartridge for the 400dpi printer is identical as the toner cartridge for some kind of Apple laser printer. So, that is my long winded way of asking: Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? Or... Whats the model # of that identical Apple laser printer cartridge? Thanks so much... -Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 http://www.rahul.net/dbikle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112257.RAA09954@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 17:56:58 -0500 Subject: Re: SyQuest EZ FLyer 230 ? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - Responding To: Chang Song <song@ctc.com> Original Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: df5d953d35852ffb99a5a8a56dcb412c - > I was just wondering if anyone is successfully using SyQuest's EZ > flyer 230 SCSI drive with NeXTstep? Yes, there are... and people using EZ135's as well (namely, me ;-) TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703112315.SAA10080@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 11 Mar 97 18:15:31 -0500 Subject: Re: (HELP) installing & using modem Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - Responding To: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Original Date: 11 Mar 1997 01:16:01 GMT Message-ID: dffcb31ac8fd9e564c800cc01986d4ef - > My guess is the driver being used for the modem. In my choices list > of modems in version 3.3 of the NeXTStep OS, I have only two > choices. One is "HSD modem" and the other is "Interfax Modem". I > tried each but both kept hanging up. That certainly is the problem, as the drivers for those two modems are not compatible with your modem. Your best bet is to try NXFax (I'm not sure if the Prac. Peripherals works with it, but it might). TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> *Intel-bound thanks to Bifrost!* We are working on the FTP problems at PEAK, thanks for your patience.
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test, pls ignore Date: 13 Mar 1997 14:47:54 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5g942q$g31@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> test only -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: vbragin@ix.netcom.com (Vicki Bragin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Ethernet card problems Date: 13 Mar 1997 15:57:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5g985a$4h0@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> Briefly, here is the problem that I am having. (1) An Ethernet card on one of our systems failed. The systems have been functioning for months. I am certain it was the card because when I used the same card on another machine, that machine gave the same message --- "Still searching for parent network ...etc. press 'c' to continue without network user accounts....." (2) Replaced the card with a new one - it worked for about a week. Now, the Ethernet card is not functioning again. Intel Pentium 100 MHz DECchip21040 Based Adapter Ethernet card (v3.36) My question: could there possibly be something on the motherboard that is causing the Ethernet card to fail repeatedly? Or, is that a dumb question? What should I check? Thanks for any help. Also, I tried to post this before but I notice that it never appeared on any of the newsgroups. So, please excuse the bandwidth if it should reappear at some later time. Vicki Bragin -- ********************************************************** Victoria M. Bragin Physical Sciences Division, Pasadena City College 1570 E. Colorado Blvd., Pasadena, CA 91106-2003 Phone: (818) 585-7147 Fax: (818) 585-7919 E-mail: (NeXTmail and MIME mail welcome) vbragin@nextlab.calstatela.edu vbragin@ix.netcom.com vbragin@paccd.cc.ca.us vbragin@pslc.ucla.edu **********************************************************
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 13 Mar 1997 16:01:56 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <E6yn3C.J11@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: >.... What this means is that application icons may not look as >good as they once did, since they're no longer using the human-optimised 2bpp >images. Furthermore your background may also be dithered, which is mightally >annoying. It's been a couple of years since I've run dual-headed, so I can't >remember whether the dock rectangles will be shaded or not. > This is all under 3.2. Perhaps subsequent releases have some super-cool fix >for this annoyance. Yeah - I noticed that too. I haven't tried it under 3.3 yet, though I probably could easily enough. I'll let you know. Also, there's a bug which significantly slows down your display if you run a dual-headed ND system and make the mono screen the login screen. Instead, always make the color ND screen the login screen. This was at true for NS 2.1, but I don't know if its a hardware vs software bug and fixed in later releases. > Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Also, Color slabs use 16bpp, not 8. Opps :-) - Gareth
From: howe@ukcc.uky.edu (Miles Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PAS16 SCSI USE IN NS3.3? Date: 13 Mar 1997 15:59:37 GMT Organization: Network Computing Systems Message-ID: <5g9899$jfl@service3.uky.edu> Hi all, does anyone know if NeXTStep 3.3 Mach can use the scsi trantor controller on the ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card? Thanks! Regards, Miles...
From: jork@dvs-hannover.de (Ralf Jork) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Subject: Re: Can't get 4gig drive to believe it's a 4gig drive Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.periphs.scsi,linux.scsi Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:19:22 GMT Organization: DVS GmbH Hannover Message-ID: <5g9cuq$245@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> References: <E6w77K.72@nvc.cc.ca.us> <5g61q0$7l@neptun.dvs-hannover.de> <E6xz85.CDK@nvc.cc.ca.us> Chris Osborn (fozztexx@nvc.cc.ca.us) wrote: [...] : It has been getting set to all 0, but the drive doesn't want to change : the sector count. In fact, after formatting, when you do a MODE SENSE, : the drive returns the number of blocks as 0. : : How do I know what the appropriate number of blocks *should* be? I can : guess, but I don't know it precisely. See the Seagate "Barracuda 4LP ... Product Manual, Volume 1" for more info. BTW: the ST34371N I tested has 8,496,960 (0x81A740) blocks (512 byte sectors). Oh, and Mode Sense indeed reports "0" for this drive. According to the Seagate manual this translates to "all logical blocks". -- Ralf.
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:43:15 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1303971045040001@i521.oro.net> I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works great, though slow. I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. How can I play music out of the SoundBox. Tom
From: rparkhil@bnr.ca (Rob Parkhill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstation RAM question Date: 13 Mar 1997 17:49:19 GMT Organization: NORTEL - Northern Telecom Canada Message-ID: <5g9emv$o59@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> References: <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca> In article <5g3slu$mjn@bcarh8ab.bnr.ca>, Rob Parkhill <rparkhil@nortel.ca> wrote: >Howdy Folks: [munc] >However, of the four 4MB SIMMS I used, 3 are 80ns, and one is 70ns. > >Could this cause any problems? It seems to work OK (system recognizes >the memory, tells me I have 20MB of RAM), but the load on my system >seems to have gone up a small amount. 'uptime' reports loads of >between .3 and .5 all the time, even when the only application running >is the Workspace Manager. [munch] Thanks to everyone who responded to my question. The general concensus is that the mixed speed RAM should not cause any problems, and that it all must be a figment of my imagination... later... Rob -- Rob Parkhill, Software Guy, Nortel | "How's this for a future vision: Scott rparkhil@nortel.ca | McNealy has Bill Gates in a headlock, members.tripod.com/~parkhill | while Larry Ellison kicks Bill in the +1 613 763 6264 (Ottawa, Ontario) | groin and swipes his wallet." - Alex Lash
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: 13 Mar 1997 19:28:43 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> Hi, I want to get a flat bed scanner. All I really want it to do is scan in color at least at 400X400 optically (300X600 isn't good enough). 24bit color is fine, if more then great. I'm looking to get the cheapest scanner that meets or slightly exceeds the above specs. I want to get a sheetfeeder as well. So perhaps there are some good units with integrated sheetfeeders that cost less than buying the flatbed, and then adding a sheet feeder? Anyway, I'm pretty clueless when it comes to scanners (among many other things :), so any help and/or opinions will be greatly appreciated! I'd consider any recommendation from any (and only) the following companies: AGFA, EPSON, HP, NIKON, OCE, RICOH, UMAX, XRS Raven; (because those are currently the only companies supported under OPENSTEP). Thanks much :) -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 12 Mar 97 21:18:49 -0500 Subject: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards I know the pros and cons of an ergo keyboard, what I am looking for is specific information on what types of soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards people have used and would recommend OR warn me against getting. Thanks TjL
From: Amy West <awest@m-w.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: space for NS 3.0 & recommended SCSI drives Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 10:11:28 +0500 Organization: Merriam-Webster Inc. Message-ID: <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We're upgrading a NeXTStation from NS 2.2 to 3.0. It only has a 100M hard drive, with 50M usually occupied. How much more space is 3.0 going to eat, and can anyone recommended an external SCSI drive? ---Amy West
From: Francisco Raul Romo Alfaro <al528580@campus.her.itesm.mx> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [HELP] Installing a cd-rom drive Date: Mon, 10 Mar 1997 14:48:36 -0700 (MST) Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.90.970310143702.25816A-100000@campus.her.itesm.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Well, my problem is: I just got the NeXTStep 3 upgrade (yes, a little late), and a cd-rom drive (that toshiba recomended in the FAQ), but I just can't install it!. This is what I am doing and my hardware is a Cube turbo 68040 with 16 ram, bios v59, and the original 400 meg hdd and floppy, runnig NeXTstep 2.x. The machine has not been "touched" since it was brought (no upgrades, no nothing) After connecting the drive and setting it up at device no. 2, I turned on the cube and press <command> and "~". Then I write the following line (with the cd in the drive): bsd (2,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sd2 . The machine's response is NO SCSI drive. I have not yet run the software on the 3.5" disk which comes on the package any clue? thanks -Francisco Romo
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec 2940AU <-- Note the "A" :) Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:50:18 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1303971652570001@thebook.on-demand.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ I found the Adaptec 2940U drivers at the NeXTansers site but found, much to my dismay, that it doesn't support the AU. Does anyone know of a workaround for this? TIA, Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
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From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Microsoft Office 97 costs US$45 ? Shopping Paradise Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 14:25:53 GMT Organization: Netvigator Message-ID: <5g9vj5$n9g@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Windows 95, Visual Foxpro, MS Office 7.0, Visual Basic, Visual C++, Borland C++, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Lotus SmartSuite 97, ...... only costs US$45 for all? CorelDraw 7.0! only costs US$45? Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want by an reasonable price. Today, by this chance, we would like to introduce to those who are interest in computing. In Hong Kong, there are five famous spots inclues: Golden Center - Sham Shui Po ; Mongkok Computer Center - Mongkok ; Sino Center - Mongkok ; 298 Computer Center - Wan Chai and Tsuen Fung Center -Tsuen Wan . In which, you can always find the most update warez includes all PC Warez, PC games, CD-Title, Shareware, Video-CD and Playstation game, etc. For Example, Inside a Installer (one CD only, Product No.: IN96112) , it contains MS Visual Foxpro 5.0, MS Windows 95 OEM Service Release, MS Money97, Lotus SmartSuite 97, Lotus cc:Mail Release 6, Symantec Cafe 1.5, Norton Your Eyes Only, Norton Smart Doctor 1.0, Quartdeck SpeedyROM 1.1, KPT BrayceAlpha 2.0, Visual dBASE Professional 4.4a, MacroMedia Animator Designer, Solitaire Antics, Almost Reality, CakeWalk Express 3.01, ClockMan95, Demo-It!2.0, MicroLogic EMAGIC, EXTRA! Version 6.2, MacroMedia Icon Designer, Infinite Disk, InfoSpy Pro, Fractal Deign Ray Dream Studio 4.1, Janna Conract Manager, Kurzweil Voice release 2.0, PC Maclan verion 6.0, NetWizard Plus Version 3.1, Organic Art, Microsoft Edition, PhotoWorks, RandoMedia, Real Oschestra, Reflection 4, RichWin, SoundForge 4.0, SignLab Pro+, Spectrum Pro CD Player, Starfish Internet Sidekick, TeleMagic, TurboCAD 3.0, MS-Visual SourceSafe 5.0, WinBye 32, Xing 3.02 Release, Zydeco Management Desktop. Good news to you today, that is, we would like to introduce all wares in VERY attractive price to you. Not only to provide over 50 warez for you to choose, but also to introduce the most suitable warez to you. We would provide a very attractive price not more than US$50. The more you buy, the more money you can save. Right? Hurry up! Don't miss this chance! Just ask what you want to know OR just decide and place your order to us. If you want some more details , you can go http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ DogZ Software Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 97 00:45:10 -0500 Subject: So I've got a UPS now.... Turns out that I've got to put the beast on my desk rather than the floor (too far from the floor to the top of the desk). So now there's this space on top of it, and I'm wondering: can I put stuff on top of it? There's no vents or anything like that, I'm just wondering if putting my CDs or my EZ135 cartridges on top of this thing will cause any harm to them (stray magenetic fields, negative karma, etc). Hey, it might sound stupid to you, but I've got a lot of important stuff on those disks/carts.... Thanks TjL
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So I've got a UPS now.... Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 22:52:17 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1303972252170001@81.chicago-033.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> > > There's no vents or anything like that, I'm just wondering if > putting my CDs or my EZ135 cartridges on top of this thing will > cause any harm to them (stray magenetic fields, negative karma, > etc). > I would say there is no problem putting CD's on it since the media wouldn't be affected by anything that the UPS would put out, but I would be careful of the EZ's because a UPS is basically a big battery which probably means that it stores electricity as DC and converts it to AC. (I'm not sure about this since I've never taken one apart, but maybe someone else can say for sure.) Conversion means a transformer which means coils which means magnetic fields. Mitch
From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB & (Help) What OS for Turbo Cube Date: 13 Mar 1997 18:56:14 GMT Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: <5g9ike$q22$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <5g4lq3$f57@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Do you know if it is better to change for black turbo hardware from 3.3 to 4.1 or 4.2 (Is it rhapsody ??? without the mac compatibility ????) ? Do you think that Black hardware will be supported by Rhapsody ???????
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 09:53:31 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> In article <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> writes: > I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the > all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI > mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in > any mode but 640x480 grayscale. I'm having similar problems with an ATI "WinBoost" PCI card which uses the 264VT2 chipset. I suspect the problems are due to an unsupported Mach64 chipset or BIOS. Mach64 comes in a bunch of flavours (from the XFree86 notes): Mach64 series: 88800GX-C, 88800GX-D, 88800GX-E, 88800GX-F, 88800CX, 264CT, 264ET, 264VT, 264VT2, 264GT NeXT's Mach64 driver (v3.37, 4.01) overview says that only the 88800 GX/CX are officially supported. The 264* chipsets have integrated RAMDACs on them, but they should be supported since the driver now uses the ATI BIOS to set the video mode and the overview claims that this should work with any RAMDAC. The error I get is: ATI BIOS not found. (At that point, the default VGA driver is loaded instead). My ATI BIOS rev is 113-34004-104. Is this a problem with an incompatible BIOS? Or is it simply an incorrect I/O address setting in the driver configuration? If it is an incompatible BIOS, can anyone post some ATI BIOS revisions they know that work? *Sigh* It's getting damn hard to build a NEXTSTEP/OpenStep system these days... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: how to increase refreshing rate Date: 14 Mar 1997 10:52:44 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gbals$mka@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, We'd like to know how to increase the refreshing rate for graphic card. We are using the MatroxMilennium under OpenStep at 1280x1024x75. The next mode in the driver is 90Hz, which is out of the range of our monitor. How could we increase it to 85Hz? Thanks a lot, Khanh Nguyen,
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: space for NS 3.0 & recommended SCSI drives Date: 14 Mar 1997 12:56:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5gbhtg$o21@news.next.com> References: <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> In article <33278C80.B63@m-w.com> Amy West <awest@m-w.com> writes: > We're upgrading a NeXTStation from NS 2.2 to 3.0. > It only has a 100M hard drive, with 50M usually occupied. > How much more space is 3.0 going to eat, and can anyone > recommended an external SCSI drive? Don't bother with the external. Backup whatever you really need from that 100Meg drive, and just replace it. Just about any small SCSI drive will work in a 'station. I've got a SEAGATE ST51080N 1Gig in mine. Less than $300. joe
From: paul@computerActive.on.ca (Paul Nadon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hard drive/CD-ROM weirdness... Date: 14 Mar 1997 13:56:18 GMT Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada Message-ID: <5gble2$faf@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> Two new workstations (clones): P133,internal 2Gb SCSI, 64Mb RAM internal 12X CD-ROM SCSI, AHA2940 board. Hard drive and CD-ROM were installed, both terminated. Now fixed. Something is accessing the hard drive continuously. CONSOLE reports: "*** : open failed No such device" A second workstation is doing the same thing, but only when there is no CD in the CD-ROM. I assume this is a configuration thing and that the first hard drive is toast. I've checked Config.app and the BIOS; there does not appear to be any conflicts... Any comments or words of wisdom? --- Paul
From: wfc@CL.cam.ac.uk (William Clocksin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 14:26:22 GMT Organization: University of Cambridge, England Message-ID: <5gbn6e$5ck@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) wrote: >In article <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> writes: >> I've installed OpenStep/Mach 4.1 on an IBM Aptiva S76. (This is the >> all-balck "Stealth" model) The motherboard has an integrated ATI >> mach64-based video controller, but OpenStep can't seem to drive it in >> any mode but 640x480 grayscale. > >I'm having similar problems with an ATI "WinBoost" PCI card which uses the >264VT2 chipset... I also use ATI mach cards. It is necessary to enable the various modes on the card in advance. You can do this by booting up DOS and using a utility provided by ATI (on the floppy disc, if you have it).
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Memory limitation Date: 14 Mar 1997 17:01:59 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5gc0a7$c5p$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5fnagt$1a6g@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <SHESS.97Mar7104101@howard.one.net> Cc: shess@one.net In <SHESS.97Mar7104101@howard.one.net> Scott Hess wrote: > In article <ukvbu8w4nrw.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu>, > fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: > gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) said: > > You see, I have this deep seated fear of disk swapping. My NeXT > > Station has 32meg.. Not too bad, but I wouldn't mind 64. So can > > I put 4 16 meg 30 pin simms? I can get these for $96, but I > > haven't heard if the NeXT can use them. > > AFAIK, 4 Meg SIMMs are as big as you can go. What *I* want to know > is, would it be possible to use SIMM-doublers in each slot, so one > could effectively go to 64 Meg? > > I don't think you can do SIMM-"doublers" for 30-ping, you have to gang > four of them. Besides which, a doubler just makes a gang of SIMMs > look like a bigger SIMM, so if you ganged four 30-pin 4M SIMMs, you'd > end up with one 30-pin 16M SIMM-alike ... so why not just go to 30-pin > 16M SIMMs? > > Well, beyond "because it won't work" :-). [Actually, though, won't > it? I don't know enough to know if the limitation is that the board > won't handle 16M SIMMs, or that the BIOS won't handle >64M. Could you > leave 4 slots empty and put 4x16M to get to 64M, for instance? I > doubt it, considering when the board was designed. And why am I > asking, since I'm running a Turbo board? Sigh.] > > Beyond all that, there's _no_ way you're going to be able to find > enough clearance to fit all this. You'd need four SIMM savers, > short-left, tall-left, tall-right, short-right. The short ones would > probably fit in the slots away from the power supply, but I doubt the > tall ones would. > > Later, > If your talking about machines that take 30pin SIMMS the answer is NO. 32MB is your limit (8 4M Simms). If you get into the ROM monitor and type m you'll get a report of the addresses of bank 0 and 1 (I'm remembering this off the top of my head). And I'm sure the available addressing space is 32MB (what is that 0x400000- 0x5FFFFFF?!). 25Mhz cubes have 4 banks that span address range 0x400000-0x7FFFFFF. 33Mhz May go to 0xAFFFFF) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E71Lr6.z0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:57:06 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <E6yn3C.J11@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > >> Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >>bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. > >I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Yes, it does at least part of it, and there's some sort of bug in the ND's qrman code, but I can't recall what it is. Sure wish the i860 could be used for prman. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Rolando Raqueno <rvrpci@cis.rit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Keeping a Bernoulli 150 from Spinning down Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 13:51:51 -0500 Organization: Digital Imaging and Remote Sensing Laboratory/Chester F. Carlson Center for Imaging Science/Rochester Institute of Technology Message-ID: <33299E47.460F@cis.rit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Does anybody know how to keep a Bernolli 150 removable drive from automatically spinning down? It is attatched to a 040 NeXtCube. Thanks much Rolando P.S. Please reply via e-mail
From: yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.mil (John Michopoulos) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5gcaj4$fnt@news.digifix.com> NeXT Postscript Printer Driver Instalation for Windows NT 4.0 * Prolog When I mentioned that I'v done this, some good people at next-prog@omnigroup.com suggested that I upload this. So here it is * Introduction - This is for Windows NT 4.0 to print on a NeXT Black printer * System Requirements - Load the lpr package on your network configuration on your NT machine * Downloads ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.zip ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/submissions/NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d.readme or by World Wide Web http://www.gomeco.com/next/ Here is the Readme file: ---------------------------------------------------------- >From Y. Michopoulos, yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com, March 13, 1997 This is a compressed directory, with everything you need to install a postscript printer driver (PPD) for the NeXT printer that is connected to your black hardware, and you want to printon it from your Windows NT 4.0 machine. This is offered to all those that persist on the black hardware dream! This is a hack! No guaranties are implied about anything. You do everything at your OWN risk. However, if you have any problems drop me a line at yiannis@prologos.nrl.navy.milor yiannis@kybos.gomeco.com I'll try to answer. It has been asumed that: 1. your NT machine is already connected through the net to yourBlack NeXT machine. This black machine is your print server because yourblack NeXT printer is connected to it. 2. you know the IP address of your server and the name of the "local" name of the printer as it appears in the PrintManager panel (usually it is called Local_Printer). 3. the lpr package is loaded in your network configuration on your NT machine If you know how to add lpr printers then use the directory NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d as the source of yourntprint.inf file when asked. If you do not understand the previous statement then here's what you have to do. Please follow the steps: 1. unzip the file in a directory of your choice in your Windows NT 4.0 filesystem 2. Launch your(Double click ) "Printers" icon from your "My Computer" icon 3. Double click on the "Add Printer" icon 4. The "Add Printer Wizard" panel will show up; Select "My Computer" and then "Next>" 5. Push the "Add Port" button if you have not already configured a network printer before 6. In the "Printer Ports" panel that shows up, select "LPR Port" and then hit the "New Port" button 7. In the "Add LPR compatible printer" panel fill in the IP address of your Black print server in the first field and the name of the black printer as known to that machine (usually Local_Printer) 8. Then hit the OK button 9. In the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the port will show up in the list of ports.Select it and Hit "Next>" again. 10. Hit the "Have Disk" button and then on the "Install From Disk" panel hit browseand go (cd) to the NeXTprinterWNT40.I.d dir and select the ntprint.inf file and hit OK 11. Now in the "Add Printer Wizard" panel the option NeXT will appear (among others) in the list of Manufacturers. Select it and then select the only available option in the list of Printers: "NeXT 400 dpi black printer". Hit "Next >" 12. Finish the instalation by selecting whichever subsequent options you desire. ________________________________________________________ Cheers to all,
From: cmckee@flash.net (Casey McKee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb - Problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:34 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <5gcaje$oog$1@excalibur.flash.net> I've just gotten a Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb removable cartridge drive, and my system (NS Intel 3.3patch1) is locking up when there is a cartridge in the drive and I logout, or when I eject the cartridge while I am still logged in. The Workspace is frozen, plus the system will not respond to trying to bring up the ROM monitor to shutdown - I must do a hard reset (OUCH!). This is the first time I've owned a Syquest drive, so I am ignorant of any gotchas I should be attending to. Does anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? Thanks! Casey McKee caseymck@flash.net NeXTMail encouraged
From: Allan MacKinnon <allanmac@blueprint.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PAS16 SCSI USE IN NS3.3? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 15:57:27 -0500 Organization: [under construction] Message-ID: <3329BBB7.34E8@blueprint.com> References: <5g9899$jfl@service3.uky.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Miles Howe <howe@ukcc.uky.edu> Miles Howe wrote: > > Hi all, does anyone know if NeXTStep 3.3 Mach can use the scsi trantor > controller on the ProAudio Spectrum 16 sound card? Thanks! > > Regards, Miles... Nope. It can't. -- Allan MacKinnon allanmac@blueprint.com Boston, MA - 617/424-0615
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:28:24 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gcfto$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <tj-1303971045040001@i521.oro.net> Cc: tj@oro.net In <tj-1303971045040001@i521.oro.net> Thomas Ferreira wrote: > I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works > great, though slow. > yeah, but it's great to look at while you're waiting! > I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. > If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. > > How can I play music out of the SoundBox. > > Tom > doesn't work that way. see the FAQ, or buy a, what is it? a toshiba or something and then get some other app...oh heck see the FAQ . ;-0 oh heck, here it is already x-\ 4.15 How to hear sound from CDPlayer.app thought NEXTSTEP system? digital audio CDPlayer To hear sound, the following info is important. [Carl Edman ] Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401 program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive. Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD 300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do it. There is another player available: CD_evil, which is based on play3401 but offers a GUI. FAQ-Authors note: On Intel system it's very easy: just connect the CD-Audio out (internal) to your CD-in of the soundcard (internal). Anyway there are problems with different drives. E.g. we know, that the Toshiba, Sony and Nec drives currently use the same instruction set to access audio data. So be aware that there are drives which simply can't be accessed through CDPlayer. -rick
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Message-ID: <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: dbikle@rahul.net Organization: Disorganization References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 1997 19:42:42 GMT In <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Dan Bikle wrote: > I encountered a small problem. > > Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running > across the page. > > I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. First try cleaning it. If this doesnt help, get a new toner cartridge. > > If memory serves me right, the toner cartridge for the 400dpi printer > is identical as the toner cartridge for some kind of Apple > laser printer. > > So, that is my long winded way of asking: > > Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: > > "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? Its a HP Laserjet II cartridge. Get the original from HP.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: So I've got a UPS now.... Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:39:11 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gcghv$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <199703130545.AAA08284@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > > can I put stuff on top of it? > > Thanks > > TjL Hi Timothy- anything that's sensetive to heat or magnetism should stay away (that would include the monitor, I would think). If the heat isn't a problem - that is if you have some little shelf thing around the UPS, optical media should be OK. I'm not sure how audio circuits are affected. BTW, my cable is long enough that I have the UPS ~6' away from the server to which it's attached. what cable did they send you? -rick ps. probably best to keep the easter candy away, as well ;-)
From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep portable Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:46:57 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5gckh1$e6o@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> One of my users has a Next in his office. He'd like Next on his laptop. I'd like to know what vendors besides Deepspacetech provide laptops with NS installed. (He doesn't have the savvy to do it; I've 200 machines in 11 flavours.)
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 14 Mar 1997 15:03:21 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gclfp$1ho@mpaque.mpaque> References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> In article <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> writes: > How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are > there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have > to do to make it work. Open the back of the Cube. Plug in the board. Make sure the fan on the Cube back is still plugged in. Put the back on the Cube. Connect a monitor to the ND board. You'll need a cable with a 13W3 connector on one end, and whatever your monitor needs (13W3 or 3 BNC connectors) on the other. > Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a > standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, > then the monitor later. Not the monochrome display. Most color multisync monitors that support composite sync (sync on green) and can handle 1280x1024 at 68Hz can be adjusted to work with the ND's video. I've had good luck with the old NEC 5FG monitors. > Lastly, does the ND Board Help or hurt speed? > I am thinking in terms of usability (subjective) not benchmarks > (oblective). Thanks in advance for all your help. PostScript drawing is a bit faster, and bitmap imaging is a bit slower, than the equivalent 2 bit display. Of course, you are pushing 24 bits of color per pixel... -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:17:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to the Rhapsody group. Since it looks like the new ATI cards are all using those chipsets, this means that ATI is not an option any more? I'd like to hear otherwise... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: hamel@ravel.ubc.ca (Dr. Keith A. Hamel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Laptops running NS Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:42:39 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Does anyone have suggestions for off-the-shelf laptops that are capable of running NeXTStep/OpenStep?
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MIDI clarification? Date: 15 Mar 1997 01:04:33 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> I have heard that you must make special cables to use a Mac MIDI interface with a NeXTSataion. I have also heard that a standard Mac serial cable will work. My Studio3 is on the way, and I would like to know... Thanks Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 21" Inch Mega Pixel? Date: 14 Mar 1997 21:48:15 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gch2v$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <33265629.6FB6@earthlink.net> <E6yEpx.nt7@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Cc: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca somewher someone wrote: > >Are there any such things as a 21" Color MegaPixel? > when Rhapsody catches on, somehow I think large monitors will be popular purchase, like fast modems were for the www, like enormous hard drives are for office '97 ;-). all that talk about most MACs still having 14" 640 x 480 screens... it might be a good time to buy stock in monitor companies. if it happens and prices drop (ala modems) it could snowball. soon we'll could all have those 16/9 aspect ratio monitors that are 22" diagonally, cheap. -rick (who could just as well have posted form his Newton with it's tiny screen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Subject: Black Hardware: No Power? Message-ID: <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Sender: news@boss.cs.ohiou.edu (News Admin) Organization: Ohio University Mathematics Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:48:36 GMT The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in the machine. Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be repaired or replaced? Any other suggestions? Thanks, -- Walter -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Walter C3arlip **** carlip@ace.cs.ohiou.edu **** (the "3" is silent) _____________________________________________________________________________
From: Richard Creger <puffycat@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: compaq bios Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:30:54 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <332A502E.1F80@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit does anyone know how to get into a presario 924 dx2-66 BIOS? its not the standard del during boot-up
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrading to a new mother board on MO Date: 14 Mar 1997 20:46:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5gd9j4$fee@slip.net> Hi, I have a 030/25 and an 040/25 machine and I'm considering purchasing two 040/33 mother boards and replacing the existing boards. Does will the machine get confused if I install the hard drive and memory and then boot, thinking it is still running on the old hardware? On booting the machine for the first time do you install a new OS? Thanks, Emmett
From: "Jim Wu" <jimwu@extron.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 23:21:50 -0700 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <jimwu-1403972321500001@ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com> I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the cable from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that particular cable the same as a mono monitor cable. By the way does some one have a cable lying around that they would like to get rid of. Thanks. Jim Wu jiwu@tuba.aix.calpoly.edu
From: aloha97@in-motion.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:10:59 -0500 Organization: In-Motion LLC Message-ID: <332A3D6E.781C@in-motion.net> References: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: jkheit@cnj.digex.net Look in the Mar '97 MacUser or MacWorld. I can't remeber which, but they have reviewed the type of scanners you are interested in.
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:04:51 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gci23$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Cc: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM In <1997Mar13.194242.685@gamelan.shnet.org> Thomas Funke wrote: > In <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Dan Bikle wrote: > > > I encountered a small problem. > > > > Portrait oriented printouts have horizontal streaks running > > across the page. > > > > I think maybe a new toner cartridge might solve this. > > Its a HP Laserjet II cartridge. Get the original from HP. any model HP92295A cartridge will work. this is the EP-S cartridge, spec'd for HPLJ II, IID, III and IIID. they used to be available at any decent office supply store, but a recent informal survey of Manhattan (eg Staples and CompUSA) showed that only the newer models (IV and V series) are stocked. so you could do what I did, call 1-800-735-4000 and order one from Reliable, either the "real thing" for $79.59 or a "remanufactured" cartridge for $37.59. No tax; next day delivery. -rick
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: (Driver Kit...) Date: 15 Mar 1997 10:38:46 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5gdu7m$6f1$1@news.cc.umr.edu> Hi, I was trying to write a Device Driver for EPIX frame grabber card under NextStep 3.2. My problem is that when ever I try to open the port, and if the video signal is not present at the port (camera is not powered on) the system hangs. Is there any way I could time this out. I mean if the port is not available (not powered) just don't open it!! Any pointer on this will be helpful. Thank you very much for your time ... Sanjeev
From: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: zip drive Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> Hello- Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). What else should I be doing? -Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 02:00:10 -0500 Subject: How does SyJet compare? I am thinking about getting a SyJet (1.5 gig/cart). The first removable cartridge hard drive to market with a capacity over 1 gigabyte, SyJet supports the most demanding application users with a maximum sustained read/write data transfer rate approaching 7MB/sec., and a SCSI burst rate of 10MB/sec. Seek time is among the fastest available at less than 12msec. My question is: how well does this compare with other HD available? TjL ps -- if anyone has experience with SyJet, please let me know.
From: jmcgahey@thunder.temple.edu (John Mcgahey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Simultaneous recording on Mac possible? Date: 15 Mar 1997 16:15:09 GMT Organization: Temple University, Academic Computer Services Message-ID: <5gehud$240@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: 536870664 What software/hardware would I need to turn my Radius 110 megahertz with 40 megs of RAM into a digital studio? Is there a faq on the subject? My goal is to play previous tracks while simultaneously recording a new one. This is something beyond the capabilities of SoundEdit 16. \ I'd really appreciate any help. Thank you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM Message-ID: <E73Hpo.B28@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5gcfto$db6@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 17:25:00 GMT Rick Sanford writes > [Carl Edman ] > > Hearing the sound directly on the NeXT can be done with the play3401 > program from the archives if you have a Toshiba 3401 series drive. > Theoretically this can also be done with NEC [78]4-1s and Apple CD > 300s, though I know of no NeXT program which supports them. Most other > drives (including the NeXT CD-ROM) just don't have the hardware to do > it. The successor named playcd, version 1.4 should work with nec 3x and apple 300 drives. Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Quix Daydream Date: 15 Mar 1997 13:07:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5gevh7$p7d@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970309124134.2055B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <AF4998C5-1159E@207.147.60.9> "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >On Sun, Mar 9, 1997 1:01 PM, Isaac <mailto:isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >> 2. Sound doesn't work - Becuase the ROM box connects to the DSP (which is >> normally used for sound on black hardware.) > >Would this be true of a system with a SoundBox which doesn't, of course, >use the DSP port? >> >> I've heard it runs System 7.5.5 with no problems. I wonder if anyone's >> tried 7.6 on it. > >WOW! That's impressive. My five PowerMacs can't run System 7 with no >problems. What's even more impressive, is that the Daydream is more stable than some of the Macs I use in college... It runs software that crashes a "normal" Mac. And my Daydream is currently running 7.5.5 -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: MIDI clarification? Message-ID: <E7322J.9us@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 11:47:07 GMT In article <5gcsj1$16i8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) writes: > I have heard that you must make special cables to use a Mac MIDI > interface with a NeXTSataion. > Yes, you need a special cable since the pinout is different. > I have also heard that a standard Mac serial cable will work. > Bullsh.. > My Studio3 is on the way, and I would like to know... > The manpage on 'zs' is the first source of info. If this still leaves you clueless (there are people like this ;-) refer to the FAQ and Usenet- archive on Peanuts <www.peanuts.leo.org> -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: 15 Mar 1997 23:19:56 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> References: <jimwu-1403972321500001@ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com> In article <jimwu-1403972321500001@ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com> "Jim Wu" <jimwu@extron.com> writes: > I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the cable > from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that particular cable > the same as a mono monitor cable. Yes it is. The soundbox replaces the Mono monitor. joe
From: dwright1@voicenet.com (Darren Wright) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 16 Mar 1997 00:28:52 GMT Organization: Voicenet - Internet Access - (215)674-9290 Message-ID: <5gfes4$ck0$2@news2.voicenet.com> References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : Hi, : What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru : a serial port on a 040/25 machine? : Thanks, : Emmett I've run 57600 on a few diffrenet machines with no problem. -Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Keywords: NeXT horizontal streaks From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <332b417b.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 16 Mar 97 00:40:27 GMT In article <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net>, Dan Bikle <dbikle@rahul.net> wrote: > >Hi NeXT fans, [snip] > >So, that is my long winded way of asking: > >Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: > >"NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? > >Or... > >Whats the model # of that identical Apple laser printer cartridge? > >Thanks so much... > >-Dan >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant >dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 >http://www.rahul.net/dbikle >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > The toner cartridge for a NeXT is the same one as used in the Apple Laser Writer, namely an EP-S cartridge. Remember to clean the thin nylon filaments that are seen about 1/3 of the way down the paper path when the printer is open. Toner build-up on those can cause streaks. Also replace the cleaning pad that sits on top of the fuser roller (just at the end of the paper path where the paper leaves the printer). The pad has two prongs sticking up in the thin end of the V opening when the lid is open. It just lifts out and is replaced by the new one that comes with the toner cartridge. There are companies that refill toner cartridges and put higher performance drums in them. Over two or three refills, it becomes noticably less expensive than new cartridges. Take all the old bits to them for a refund. There's also a wire inside the toner cartridge that you can clean with one of the two little green brushes that should be clipped inside your laser printer. Before discarding the cartridge, try cleaning the wire. You friendly local dealer can probably show you a diagram of how to do it, if he/she sells toner cartridges. Good luck. david ---- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: (help) Audio Sound from CD ROM References: <tj-1303971045040001@i521.oro.net> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <332b42bd.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 16 Mar 97 00:45:49 GMT In article <tj-1303971045040001@i521.oro.net>, Thomas Ferreira <tj@oro.net> wrote: >I have a NeXT Turbo Cube running the original NeXT brand CD ROM. Works >great, though slow. > >I am trying to play the audio CD thru my SoundBox but no sound comes out. >If I plug in headphones to the front of the CD ROM unit, I do get sound. > >How can I play music out of the SoundBox. > >Tom Try turning up the volume on the CD Player panel. It is usually turned right down, and it is hard to see the thin white line that corresponds to the setting mark. Use the cursor to grab it at the left end of the wheel edge image (representing the volume control) and move it all the way to the right. Hope that fixes the problem. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: zip drive Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E74241.HwM@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 00:45:37 GMT References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu>, J. Hormuzdiar <jimh@pantheon.yale.edu> wrote: >Hello- > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an >Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but >haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work >(Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). > I've had no problems with it on black hardware...are you sure that it's set to an unused SCSI address and that the termination switch is set correctly? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: Re: Best bang for buck scanner, looking for opinions Date: 15 Mar 1997 12:59:02 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5gev26$oc1@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5g9khb$n7p@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> wrote: >Hi, > >I want to get a flat bed scanner. All I really want it to do is >scan in color at least at 400X400 optically (300X600 isn't good >enough). 24bit color is fine, if more then great. I'm looking to >get the cheapest scanner that meets or slightly exceeds the above >specs. > >I want to get a sheetfeeder as well. So perhaps there are some >good units with integrated sheetfeeders that cost less than buying >the flatbed, and then adding a sheet feeder? Anyway, I'm pretty >clueless when it comes to scanners (among many other things :), so >any help and/or opinions will be greatly appreciated! > >I'd consider any recommendation from any (and only) the following >companies: AGFA, EPSON, HP, NIKON, OCE, RICOH, UMAX, XRS Raven; >(because those are currently the only companies supported under >OPENSTEP). > >Thanks much :) Whatever you do, if you run black NeXT hardware, stay the hell away from Epson's current offerings (ES-1000 & ES-1200). They broke some basic SCSI thing with black hardware. GSCorp's eXTRASCAN will control these beasts if you patch the software, but the scanners hang the SCSI bus shortly after any scan they perform. The result: Turbos panicking after SCSI read/write failures to the HD, and non-turbos being rendered totally unbootable. This same scanner ran fine under Win95. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Laptops running NS Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:21:10 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5gfov6$b7q@news2.cais.com> References: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5gcnpf$sgf$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Toshiba Tecra 720CDT and if the drivers are available/work, the 740CDT. The 730CDT should also work but is not as good of a value (performance wise) over the 720CDT because of bus speed. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT Organization: HTI Message-ID: <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> I like the Microsoft Natural keyboard. The great thing about it is that it is widely available, cheap, comfortable and stylish. You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for their keyboard. BTW - It's ironic that Microsoft makes great hardware and lousy software. Robert On 03/12/97, "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > >I know the pros and cons of an ergo keyboard, what I am looking for >is specific information on what types of soft-touch and/or ergo >keyboards people have used and would recommend OR warn me against >getting. > >Thanks > >TjL > -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Date: 15 Mar 1997 21:41:41 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5gftm5$1cr$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5fvuvp$jum@slip.net> <5gfes4$ck0$2@news2.voicenet.com> In comp.sys.next.hardware Darren Wright <dwright1@voicenet.com> wrote: : Emmett McLean (emclean@slip.net) wrote: : : What is the fastest modem speed I can use thru : : a serial port on a 040/25 machine? : I've run 57600 on a few diffrenet machines with no problem. Using a modem at 57600 on a 25 MHz Color box is a ticking time bomb. You may be able to live with it for a while, but eventually it'll panic your machine. 57600 on a 33 MHz box is more like it, but it's hard to really push an X2 modem at this DTE rate. My next WAN will be built around an ISDN router. ......................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <7353857885137@digifix.com> Date: 16 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <608858488427@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Carl-Johan Schenstrom <cjs@bluebox.pp.se> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Monitor for mono-system ? Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 02:10:47 +0100 Organization: Tripnet AB Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970316020412.4091F-100000@dinos.tripnet.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What kind of monitors (frequencies etc) are possible to connect to a NeXT station Mono-system ? Will a standard "PC" 17" Goldstar monitor with 30-85 KHz horizontal freq. and 50-120 Hz vertical freq. do ? Please send comments to cjs@bluebox.pp.se as well as this NG, since I can't read news that often. .--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------. | No animals were injured, raped or killed | cjs@bluebox.pp.se | | during the composition of this message | http://www.bluebox.pp.se | `--------------------------------------------+--------------------------------'
From: root <root@localhost.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: compaq bios Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 01:53:59 -0800 Organization: abacab Message-ID: <332BC337.3A9D@localhost.com> References: <332A502E.1F80@worldnet.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Richard Creger wrote: > > does anyone know how to get into a presario 924 dx2-66 BIOS? > its not the standard del during boot-up Believe it or not, it's BIOS is a PROM that can only be modified via 1.44 floppy....assuming that you have the BIOS/PROM floppy. What a cruel implementation of a system BIOS. You can thank Compaq. --abacab
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703160614.BAA08262@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: f7e7d3c00b2652bf8ffd524e68616c64 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 01:14:17 -0500 Subject: Re: Syquest SyJet 1.5Gb - Problems Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: f7e7d3c00b2652bf8ffd524e68616c64 - Responding To: cmckee@flash.net (Casey McKee) Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 19:57:34 GMT > This is the first time I've owned a Syquest drive, > so I am ignorant of any gotchas I should be attending to. Does > anyone have any idea what's going on, and how to fix it? Myself and others have used SyQuest drives such as the EZ135 and EZFlyer230 without any problems.... This is the first I have heard of this (ironic since I'm considering getting one for my NS machine). Try this: mount the drive and do 'mount -p' or 'cat /etc/mtab' and see what the listing there is and see if it looks strange. (feel free to send me a copy) what's the SCSI-ID of the drive? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Message-ID: <E7558u.AtC@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:50:54 GMT In article <5gfaqs$5pj@news.next.com> jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) writes: > In article <jimwu-1403972321500001@ont-ca7-12.ix.netcom.com> "Jim Wu" > <jimwu@extron.com> writes: > > I have recently acquired a NeXT dimension with everything but the > > cable from the cube to the soundbox. My question is, is that > > particular cable the same as a mono monitor cable. > > Yes it is. The soundbox replaces the Mono monitor. > To make it more specific. The color monitor cable is Y-shaped. One connector to the box, one to the screen, and one to the sound box. The sound box houses some cirquitry that used to sit inside the MegaPixel mono momitor. It is used for the attachment of the keyboard and mouse and for housing the conversion and driver cirquit for sound I/O including speakers and microphone. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Message-ID: <E754yE.AsM@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 1997 14:44:37 GMT In article <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) writes: > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > the machine. > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > repaired or replaced? > Any other suggestions? > First, check if the lithium battery on your main board is spent. You can get a new one from any camera store. There are no servicable parts inside the power supply. Only a well trained technician could do any good to it. Replacements are to be ordered through BellAtlantic. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Date: 16 Mar 1997 17:53:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ghc2c$gha$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Cc: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu In <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> Walter C3arlip wrote: > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > the machine. > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be repaired > or replaced? > Any other suggestions? > Probably the powersupply. I can't really belive that people would just let their machine deal with power outages like this. It definately is NOT good for the powersupplies, the HD's, or anything electrical to have the power dropped while in operation. Put your machine on a UPS with and UPS monitoring daemon ( BENATONG sells one I think) that can shutdown your machine properly if the power is off too long) if you want to avoid this in the future. Also one last thing. Try to disconnect the power cord and reconnect it. I've seen machines that wouldn't boot in such situations until the power was recycled on the box. Beyond that diagnosing a problem in a black box usually is accomplished with known working components (i.e. swap out the powersupply with a good one, the Mother board, etc.) until the faulty part can be pinned down.. Now if your handy with a DVM (Digital Volt Meter) you should be able to trace it, but you'll probably have to open your powersupply :| I've never had a Station long enough to have had this problem (& my machines are on UPS ;) Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :(
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sound Box Cable = Monitor Cable?? Date: 16 Mar 1997 18:27:10 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5ghe1u$lkl@news.next.com> References: <E7558u.AtC@nidat.sub.org> In article <E7558u.AtC@nidat.sub.org> Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) writes: > To make it more specific. The color monitor cable is Y-shaped. One > connector to the box, one to the screen, and one to the sound box. Actually, this is misleading. The cable for a color station is Y-shaped. The dimension uses two (straight) cables, one from the motherboard to the soundbox (or mono monitor), a different one from the dimension board to the color monitor. I remember having several heated discussions with our packaging teams about this, back in '92 or so. We had customers buying different variations of cubes, dimensions, etc., and getting multiple cables or missing cables. I think we finally convinced them to take the cables out of the starting point kits (which had the mouse, keyboard, docs, etc), and put them in with the CPU (or ND card). That way you always had the right cable. joe
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:07:56 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> Maybe I found it. It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a daughter card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's so great about that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another daughter card that housed dual Pentium processors. That might mean, when P7's come out, it will only require a Daughter card swap to upgrade. Why, because the daughter card also contains the chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm sockets instead of the standard 4. The dual processor motherboard goes for only 85-100bux more than their single CPU version (P6NP5). (around $325). Considering how much more upgradable this motherboard is, It seems worth the extra money even if you don't use two processors. So the question is, Is anyone using this motherboard? Does it work with OPENSTEP with one processor? Does it work with OPENSTEP with two processors (and just ignores the second processor)? -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 16 Mar 1997 19:27:10 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5ghhie$1sva@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> John Kheit (jkheit@cnj.digex.net) wrote: : It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a : daughter card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's : so great about that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another : daughter card that housed dual Pentium processors. That might : mean, when P7's come out, it will only require a Daughter card swap : to upgrade. Why, because the daughter card also contains the : chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm sockets instead of the : standard 4. ASUS has always made nice boards. I had an old dual P100 from them. : The dual processor motherboard goes for only 85-100bux more than : their single CPU version (P6NP5). (around $325). Considering how : much more upgradable this motherboard is, It seems worth the extra : money even if you don't use two processors. : So the question is, Is anyone using this motherboard? Does it work : with OPENSTEP with one processor? Does it work with OPENSTEP with : two processors (and just ignores the second processor)? I've never used this board, but If it works with one CPU, it should work with two (just ignoring the second). My friend has a 2xP6 board dual booting NT and NeXT3.3, and the next works fine (and still seems faster than the NT) Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114 @ cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5gfkdf$2b2@news.shscomputer.com> Date: 16 Mar 1997 20:47:50 GMT Control: cancel <5gfkdf$2b2@news.shscomputer.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5gfkdf$2b2@news.shscomputer.com> Sender: takecards@answerme.com Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970316.13. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970316.13.html for complete report. Original Subject: ACCEPT MAJOR CREDIT CARDS !!!!!!
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Date: 16 Mar 1997 21:08:17 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5ghng1$635$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> <E754yE.AsM@nidat.sub.org> Cc: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org In <E754yE.AsM@nidat.sub.org> Peter Nitezki wrote: > In article <E72AD1.EGD@boss.cs.ohiou.edu> carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu > (Walter C3arlip) writes: > > The trusty black NeXTStation (black and white) in my office stopped > > functioning today. The power in the building (in fact, in this entire > > town) is not very reliable, so the machine periodically loses power, but > > reboots itself. Today it seems to be powerless. I checked the power > > chords and everything seems OK, but there is no sign of power in > > the machine. > > > > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? > > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > > repaired or replaced? > > Any other suggestions? > > > First, check if the lithium battery on your main board is spent. You can > get a new one from any camera store. Forgot to mention this.. (first place to look for a problem really, battery, PROM, Powersupply, Motherboard etc.) > There are no servicable parts inside the power supply. Only a well > trained technician could do any good to it. > > Replacements are to be ordered through BellAtlantic. > Also as a note in my last post. I really meant proper disconnection. We drop the power to our TV's/monitors etc. all the time. But you don't just pull the plug on a computer for obvious reasons.. -- Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :(
From: "Robb Aley Allan" <rallan@helical.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXT laserprinter Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 16:26:36 -0500 Organization: Helical Design Message-ID: <rallan-1503971626360001@wpb107.flinet.com> Selling original NeXT laserprinter, very lightly used (first cartridge), in original box. Best offer. You pay shipping. Call Robb Aley Allan at 212.605.0555 or rallan@helical.com (will not get email during week of 3.17-3.24).
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory Installation questions on 040 machine Date: 16 Mar 1997 17:44:15 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> Hi, I've pulled the motherboard from a NeXT cub having an 040/25 chip and 16 1 MB SIMMs. The date on the back cover of the machine is 1/07/92. I wish to remove 4 of the SIMMS to make room for 4 MB 30 pin SIMMS so that it will have 12 MB of memory. Questions : 1. How are the 1 MB 30 pin SIMMs removed from the motherboard? Is it a straight pull? Or is a special tool needed? 2. Can 1 MB and 4 MB SIMMs be mixed? Assuming they can, does special care have to be taken to select the slots for the 4 MB SIMMs? Can the 1MB and 4 MB SIMMs be placed next to each other? 3. Are the SIMM slots organized in banks like a PC, i.e. with 4 slots for bank 0, 4 slots for bank 1, etc? Should the 4 MB SIMMS be placed in a particular set of slots? Say the set of 4 toward the corner of the edge of the motherboard? 4. The motherboard has an unused 72 pin SIMM slot. Can a 72 pin SIMM be installed in the slot? Thanks, Emmett
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: zip drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161802.NAA03376@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 33e62e083f063757baa0e1bb6a5083a6 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:01:56 -0500 Subject: Re: Nextstep portable Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 33e62e083f063757baa0e1bb6a5083a6 - Responding To: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Original Date: 14 Mar 1997 22:46:57 GMT > I'd like to know what vendors besides Deepspacetech > provide laptops with NS installed. (He doesn't have the savvy > to do it; I've 200 machines in 11 flavours.) I believe both Bifrost and W2000 do, or can. http://www.bifrostworks.com http://www.w2000.com/main.html TjL, currently working with Bifrost for his NeXT machine ! -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161809.NAA03491@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 4e4871b1c6dfad564231e4ced544cb4f - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:09:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Black Hardware: No Power? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 4e4871b1c6dfad564231e4ced544cb4f - Responding To: carlip@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Walter C3arlip) Original Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 01:48:36 GMT > Is it possible that it is a blown fuse? If so, how do I replace it? I don't think there's one in the slab, but I could be wrong. > Is it possible that it is a blown power supply? If so, can it be > repaired or replaced? replaced @ http://www.deepspacetech.com > Any other suggestions? Get a UPS! For > $100 you can get a small one that will maintain a better quality of power, for ~$200 you should be able to get one that will keep the system running even if the power fails completely for a few minutes (5-20, depending on the UPS and the amount of power drawn). There's some very nice software for NS & UPSes (or is that USPi ? ;-) from http://www.benatong.com. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need pointers to pinout of black laser printer Date: 17 Mar 1997 01:20:41 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m2zpw359ae.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have a black next laser printer and I would like to make a custom interface from it to my slab ... I know that the cable is a DB-9 MM one-to-one but I would like to know what pin is what ... I am planing on adding a few LEDs and buttons. thanks nick
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:53:39 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my slab(IBM 2.1GB). Here is the error massage. Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c NeXT>b sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd()sdmach Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 sdmach: not found load failed blk0 boot: ec Bad device load failed I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. Please give me some advice. Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP, SGI O2 Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Color Monitor Replacement Date: 17 Mar 1997 08:05:07 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5gitvj$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <E6u6vC.HGw@news.cern.ch> wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Ulrich Wiedner) wrote: >My black FIMI Monitor for my Color NeXTstation just died and I want to >replace it with another (non-NeXT) monitor. Now I was just reading in a >Sony manual that e.g. the Sony 17SE2T monitor goes into power-saving mode >if it receives no signals on the vertical and horizontal synchronization. >But with the NeXTstation there are no extra synchronisation signals, just >RGB. Does this mean I cannot use one of these modern monitors, because >they will automatically go into power-saving mode? Does anyone have >experience with this or see a solution? I'd also be grateful for any >recommendations of specific model/brand names of 17" monitors that work >well with a color NeXTstation. Please note that maybe a TV technician may be able to fix your Fimi monitor - it's worth trying IMHO. WRT replacing it with a new monitor, any multisync monitor that does sync-on-green and can handle the resolution (which modern monitors will) is going to work. So if the Sony does sync-on-green, fine, and power saving won't be a problem, otherwise, you will not be able to use it anyway. I have successfully attached an Eizo Flexscan BTW. Hope this helps,Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise Date: 17 Mar 1997 08:37:03 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5givrf$13vb@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> > MS Office 97 only costs US$45! Office 97 is a piece of bloated crap. > Hong Kong is the paradise in shopping. You can buy anything you want > by an reasonable price. Hongkong is the paradise for software pirates. They also seem to have their regular share of spammers. ... > If you want some more details , you can go > http://www.hkstar.com/~dogz now. Yes. Why don't we all drop by and send them a friendly comment. Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 05:06:32 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit J. Hormuzdiar wrote: > > Hello- > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work What kind of SCSI Card did you use?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? Message-ID: <E76MLB.I3r@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 10:03:10 GMT In article <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Timm Wetzel <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de> writes: > Hi, > > is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the > S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? > I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. > > Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 Intel > system, but the S3Generic driver fails to load with the following messages > (beta, released and 4.01 driver versions): > > Get Controller Info returned error (eax = 0x4f00) > Display0: could not determine memory size > _IOProbeDriver: No such device, device S3GenericDisplayDriver unit 0 > > The system then falls back to VGA. > > If this merely means that the 928 is not detected because of Spea-specific > implementation differences, I'd like to know how to adapt (and interpret :-) > the driver's expert settings. > > Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? > As far as I know some of the older SPEAs do not work with the S3 driver cause of Bugs in the SPEA BIOS. It was something like wrong registers used... ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT ADB Kanji keyboard? Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:38:08 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5gk6j0$3866@news.doit.wisc.edu> I have an odd question - I recently came into possession a NeXT ADB keyboard that in addition to the usual alphanumerics has what I think are Kanji glyphs on most of the keys. Is this indeed Kanji or something else - my knowledge of Eastern caligraphy is nil? I'm asking because I'd like to get rid of it but don't really know what to advertise it as. :-) Thanks, - Gareth bestor@cs.wisc.edu
From: danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 17 Mar 1997 19:33:53 GMT Organization: Maui Research and Technology Center Message-ID: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> References: <5gch0e$1vk@news4.digex.net> Hi, every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). Any help or pointers would be appreciated... be well, danno
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> Control: cancel <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> Date: 17 Mar 1997 11:50:28 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5gk7a5$k94@slip.net> <5gi7lf$a2@slip.net> was cancelled from within trn.
From: Dan Bikle <dbikle@rahul.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 17 Mar 1997 06:02:53 GMT Organization: Bikle Software Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> NNTP-Posting-User: dbikle Keywords: quantum VP32170 quantum prodrive NeXT 68040 cc: dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu NeXT owners, I'm impressed with the advice I received here on my NeXT 400 dpi printer. Now.... I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. The cube is running NS 3.0. I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? -Dan --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Daniel B. Bikle/Independent Oracle Consultant dbikle@alumni.caltech.edu | 415/941-6276 | P.O. BOX 1401 LOS ALTOS CA 94023 http://www.rahul.net/dbikle ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:02:29 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1703972202290001@45.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > I installed a Quantum fireball in my cube a couple of days ago. It's a 1 gig drive and the cube is a Turbo. the drive was already formatted for a Macintosh, so I just hooked it to the SCSI ribbon, plugged it in, made sure it was set to an SCSI ID other than that of the original drive and started the Cube. It booted and mounted and I did a build disk on it and reformatted it for NeXTSTEp. This took quite a long time, but it worked perfectly. It was very easy. Mitch
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive Date: 9 Mar 1997 22:43:56 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <5fvefc$g01$1@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> We are having a devil of a time installing NS 3.3 in a new Pentium with a MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive. The disk was partitioned with 1.5 GB committed to WIN95 (I know, I know...) the remaining partition committed to NS. We got as far as getting NextStep to copy files into the hard drive, it could boot and check the disk, but after that it failed to boot. At first we thought it was a problem with the NCR SCSI adapter, so we substituted the Adaptec from another machine. That did not work. Then we discovered that some jumpers were not set correctly in the HD and fixed that. No luck. We tried a number of IDE and EIDE drivers, a nothing seemed to work. After 4 hours, we gave up. Has anyone succeeded in installing NS on a machine with a MAXTOR 3.5 GB IDE drive? Is there some special trick to make it work? Are there some magic words? ("abbra cadabra" and "bibbitty- bobbidy-boo" flopped big time). We would be grateful for any help. Please respond by email. -Richard Larson Dept. of Linguistics SUNY - Stony Brook
From: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr (Park Jeongyoung) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 18 Mar 1997 07:04:48 GMT Organization: Seoul National University, Republic of Korea Message-ID: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? Park, Jeongyoung
From: publicist@meetmeonline.com (MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 18 Mar 1997 10:07:28 GMT Organization: MeetMeOnline <a zerologic company> Message-ID: <publicist-1803970410210001@thebook.on-demand.com> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> url: http://www.meetmeonline.com/ In article <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com>, Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> wrote: > J. Hormuzdiar wrote: > > > > Hello- > > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work > > What kind of SCSI Card did you use? I use it with an Adaptec 2940AU <hacked of course :> with 3.3. Michael. -- Meet a friend, Meet a lover, Meet another... MeetMe at http://www.meetmeonline.com/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need tape drive recommendation Date: 8 Mar 1997 09:59:11 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <5frurv$in4@papoose.quick.com> References: <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com> In article <5fo4s3$ljn@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com>, Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > The old MO drive has failed, so I need to get a better backup device. >For compatibility with customers who use OEM DAT tape drives in their HP >servers, I probably want an external SCSI DAT tape drive that will work under >OS 4.x and under NT 4.0. 2 GB capacity is sufficient. Compression seems >like a good thing as long as a standard compression format is supported. I >don't know much about these devices, so I'm open to education :-) All DAT drives with compression use the the same algorithm. If your customers have HP DDS or DDS2 drives with compression, then they should be able to read any DDS1 or DDS2 tape whether compressed or not. Note that DDS2 drives only use the denser DDS2 format for the 120m DDS2 tapes, so you will automatically get compatibility with older DDS1 drives by using 60 or 90 meter tapes. In my experience compatibility among the various suppliers is typically very high - I have never had any problems exchanging tapes among 4 different makes of drive. The biggest difference among various makes of DAT drives seem to be data rate. You will find that the majority of good DATs will give you sustainable throughput between 400-800KB/sec (with compression). Sony has a line of drives with speeds from 750-1500KB/sec (this number is a guess but I think it is close). Higher end HP drives are somewhere in the middle with data rates of 500-1000KB/sec. If 2GB seems like a good size to you now, then you probably should go with an inexpensive DDS2 drive both to extend the useful life of the drive and to provide better resale value if you want to upgrade at a later date. In DDS1 mode you can get fit 1.8GB - 3.6GB on a 90m tape (depending on compressibility). In DDS2 mode you will get about twice that on a 120M tape. Since SCSI drives will probably double in size again within the next 2 years, you may find you want this higher capacity later. Though DDS3 are faster (1-2MB/sec) I find them too expensive for most applications. One could probably get 3 older DDS2 drives for the price of one of these. Some people complain about the high cost of DAT tapes. The going rate seems to be 25-30 for a single DDS-2 tape from most retailers. If you shop around, though, you can get much better deals. I like www.tape.com for media. They have lower than average prices for new DDS1 and DDS2 tapes. They also sell '1 pass' tapes which are tapes used a single time to test a DAT drive during manufacturing. You can pick up these used DDS-2 tapes for under $15. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Engineering Group (617) 895-3343 ) | The best wetware is often in beta.
From: Timm Wetzel <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: S3GenericDisplayDriver: tunable parameters / SPEA Mercury? Date: 18 Mar 1997 13:00:59 GMT Organization: GWDG, Goettingen Message-ID: <5gm3mb$m9l@gwdu19.gwdg.de> References: <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> <E76MLB.I3r@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: > In article <5g6lff$dvh@gwdu19.gwdg.de> Timm Wetzel > <me@baloo.mpibpc.gwdg.de> writes: > > Hi, > > > > is there any info/documentation on how to modify the innards of the > > S3GenericDisplayDriver settings for specific hardware? > > I am thinking of the chip id strings and the like. > > > > Background: I'd like to use a SPEA Mercury VL (S3 928) with a NS3.3 [...] > > Does anyone know whether the Spea Mercury VL works with NS3.3 at all? > > As far as I know some of the older SPEAs do not work with the S3 driver > cause of Bugs in the SPEA BIOS. It was something like wrong registers > used... Actually, I've found out by now that the old (`obsolete') S3 driver _does_ work, at least in some modes (as opposed to the newer S3GenericDisplayDriver, which fails to load). 1024*768@70Hz RGB:256/8 works (but at 52Hz 8-( ). If I have time, I'll try looking at the S3 driver source code and the XFree86 Spea modifications to get better resolutions working. Timm --- Timm Wetzel <twetzel@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> <twetzel@gwdg.de> Max-Planck-Institut fuer biophysikalische Chemie, Abt. 081 Am Fassberg 11, D-37077 Goettingen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How does SyJet compare? Message-ID: <1997Mar18.061419.26345@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor (Norbert Pirzkal) Date: 18 Mar 97 06:14:18 MST References: <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> Distribution: world Cc: luomat@peak.org In <199703150700.CAA04994@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > I am thinking about getting a SyJet (1.5 gig/cart). > > > The first removable cartridge hard drive to market with a > capacity over 1 gigabyte, SyJet supports the most demanding > application users with a maximum sustained read/write data > transfer rate approaching 7MB/sec., and a SCSI burst rate of > 10MB/sec. Seek time is among the fastest available at less > than 12msec. > > My question is: how well does this compare with other HD available? > There is a review of this drive in the March issue of Byte (one page...). They compared it to the Jazz drive and it turned out to be about the same speed...
From: howe@ukcc.uky.edu (Miles Howe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sound on IDE CDROM? Date: 18 Mar 1997 15:51:57 GMT Organization: Network Computing Systems Message-ID: <5gmdmt$l24@service3.uky.edu> Keywords: NS 3.3 use of EIDE CDROM Hello, I am using a PAS16 sound card on an IDE based system. My question is this: has anyone been able to play audio cd's with an IDE CDROM drive? I have a four speed Mitsumi drive. I am asking this question because if NS 3.3 cannot do this then I am left with finding an oh, let's say an Adaptec 154x ISA card and SCSI CDROM (least expensive setup) to also play my audio cd's. I would hate to have my music cd's denied by what I hope to be my main OS of Choice! Thank You Very Much. Regards, Miles Howe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mross> Message-ID: <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 10:04:31 -0500 Subject: Re: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - Responding To: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Original Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 15:53:39 +0900 Message-ID: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - I have a different drive but also a slab and I have seen this also. Usually it takes a HARD reboot to fix it (LEFT command+ LEFT alt+* on the keypad). May take a few times. I believe this is due to some slight motherboard problem, but cannot say for sure. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor > I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my slab(IBM > 2.1GB). > Here is the error massage. > > > Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c > NeXT>b sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 > sdmach: not found > load failed > > blk0 boot: ec > Bad device > load failed > > > I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. > Please give me some advice.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Ted J. Myers" <bt912@freenet.buffalo.edu> Subject: Big Hard Drives Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <E79AtJ.FvL@freenet.buffalo.edu> Sender: nntp@acsu.buffalo.edu Organization: Buffalo Free-Net Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:41:58 GMT Does anyone know just what the factors are in determining whether or not a computer can handle one of the larger hard drives that are available? For instance, I've been hearing that some computers need special software drivers in order to work with any HD that's over, about, 500 MB. So, in order to use one of the many 1 GB, and higher, drives, you wouldn't be able to simply install one and then start using it. Right? Anyone know whether this is so & whether there might be any hardware modifications that can be performed instead? Thanks, Ted
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 19:02:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it would not mount. Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice on how to mount the OD? Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to the crash. Thanks, Bill Anderson
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: **Newbie. (HELP)** Date: 19 Mar 1997 00:43:44 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1803971646030001@i544.oro.net> Just started using a NeXT Turbo Cube. Need to modify the rc.local file in the /etc folder but will not let me save my modification. It tells me I need to be in the ROOT but I am having a hard time understanding how to be in the ROOT and then how to modify this file. In a nutshell, how do I get into the root so I can modify files like this rc.local. Once I am in this root, how can I modify the file from there. Thanks you. Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 22:17:56 -0500 Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - Responding To: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Original Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT > You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for > their keyboard. I did checkout Kinesis, which costs over $200 for a "basic" keyboard! A little rich for my blood, although it would be nice. Right now I'm going back and forth between an ergo (at work) and a non-ergo at home. I'm faster on the non, because I'm used to it, but the ergo does feel better and forces me to type better. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703180320.WAA08406@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 673ba5b269ccabb887686b9f84203384 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 97 22:19:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Fastest modem speed on 040/25 machine? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 673ba5b269ccabb887686b9f84203384 - Responding To: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Original Date: 15 Mar 1997 21:41:41 -0700 > Using a modem at 57600 on a 25 MHz Color box is a ticking time > bomb. You may be able to live with it for a while, but eventually > it'll panic your machine. FWIW I've been running my non-turbo MONO slab at 57600 for about a month, with no problems and no panics. I've gotten UART overruns in the console 2 or 3 times, brought down the connection, restarted the connection, and all was well. one datapoint, YMMV TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: 19 Mar 1997 02:19:47 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5gnig3$hd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> "Scott Atkinson" <satkinsn@wtvh.com> writes: > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? Don't open up your powered-on slab while you're in the bathtub. :-) Seriously, here's my suggestions on how to open your slab: if there's a screw in the back, unscrew it. Pull off the case top and set it aside. Before you do *anything* else, touch the power supply (large metal rectangle on the left side of the slab, if the NeXT logo on the front is facing you). Don't move around much; if you do, touch the power supply again. Leave the slab plugged in, but turned off (duh) - this may not be necessary, but I've always done it this way. Monitors are a different story. gdm
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 23:36:09 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001803972336090001@news.tiac.net> References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn>, "Scott Atkinson" <satkinsn@wtvh.com> wrote: > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? About as dangerous as a Mac II. Don't worry ;-). Ground yourself on the power supply while messing with SIMMs. Don't put a really hot drive in (7200 rpm), unless you can feed the heat thru to the case (copper mesh pad?). Be gentle with the monitor cable on color (I get opens once in a while, but a little wiggling ...). Don't imagine that anyone else's serial or printer cables will work. Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: csrfb@sb636.rivm.nl (Francois Bourgeois) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Is two Next partitions on 3.2Gb hdd possible? Date: 19 Mar 1997 08:17:13 GMT Organization: RIVM Bilthoven, Netherlands Message-ID: <5go7e9$6s9@mississippi.rivm.nl> References: <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Cc: parkjy@euler.snu.ac.kr In <5gleqg$g5a$1@snunews.snu.ac.kr> Park Jeongyoung wrote: > I have a 3.2Gb (Q/T) hdd and built NS 3.3 in a 2Gb partition. > 'Fdisk' command says another NS partition is impossible. > How can I use another 1.2Gb partition with NS ,not dos/windows? > > Park, Jeongyoung As long as you want to use the disk for NS only, I think you should initialize the disk with UNIX-style partitions. See NextAnswers doc# 1533 how to do this. This doc states that for large disks you should not just use Builddisk or /usr/etc/disk, but make an entry in /etc/disktab. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Francois Bourgeois, postbak 1 | F.Bourgeois@rivm.nl Centre for Substances and Risk assessment (CSR) | MIME is OK Risk Assessment Division | voice ++31 30 2742962 P.O.Box 1, 3720 BA BILTHOVEN, the Netherlands | fax ++31 30 2744401 RIVM - National Institute of Public Health and the Environment
From: Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 03:17:25 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <332FA115.5E14@mysolution.com> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> <publicist-1803970410210001@thebook.on-demand.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MeetMeOnline's Spokesperson wrote: > > In article <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com>, Tommy Hwang > > > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work > > > > What kind of SCSI Card did you use? > > I use it with an Adaptec 2940AU <hacked of course :> with 3.3. I am using a ZIP drive with Adaptec 2940 and 2940UW card with no problems. Maybe it is the hack...
From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need model# for 400dpi toner cartridge Date: 19 Mar 1997 03:43:55 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gnndr$1fd@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <5g8ffu$6m5@samba.rahul.net> Dan Bikle (dbikle@rahul.net) wrote: : Next, I tried out the 400dpi printer. ... : Where do I get a toner cartridge for a: : "NeXT 400 dpi Level II Printer" ?? It uses a standard HP 92295A cartridge, available from any office supply store. ================================================== | Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> | | Professor of Computer Science | ==================================================
From: (DogZ Software Center) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: Sat, 15 Mar 1997 10:26:48 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <5gc5ut$6lt@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Mar 19 16:04:35 1997 Original subject was: MS Office 97 only costs US$45?! Shopping Paradise
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7Ansn.J0E@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 14:19:34 GMT References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >on how to mount the OD? > Unfortunately for you, 3.2 handles the optical drive just fine, and I can't think of any way that you could have trashed OD support. Can you mount it manually, doing something like # mount -o ro /dev/od0a /mnt as root? Failing that, perhaps your optical drive took this opportunity to die. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: dangerous slabs? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 13:28:17 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <InA311S00iWm07Ph40@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> In-Reply-To: <01bc3409$b9fdcfa0$8b906ace@satkinsn> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 19-Mar-97 dangerous slabs? by "Scott Atkinson"@wtvh.co > While flipping thru' a manual for my brand new used slab, I found a section > on taking cubes apart, along with a dire warning that NextStations should > never, ever be opened by a user, who could get shocked. > > What's up? I was planning on going in soon to add memory and maybe install > a larger hard drive. Assuming I'm not a total fool, is there anything > really risky inside? NeXTs use a high-speed switching power supply which is enclosed within a metal case on the left edge of the machine; that has dangerous voltages inside. The rest of the system runs on 5 and 12 VDC, which is harmless. About the only other dangerous thing is the ventilation fan, which would probably be painful if you stuck your fingers into it while the machine was on. However, various laws mandate that electronic equipment have explicit warnings about dangerous voltages and the "no user-servicable parts" jargon. Also, unfortunately, there are a growing number of idiots who win lawsuits because they weren't explicitly warned against doing something stupid, so such disclaimers are a good idea for avoiding civil lawsuits, too. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Superfly <rs007e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> Subject: Booting problem... In-Reply-To: <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970319111126.22636B-100000@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: news@galileo.cc.rochester.edu Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 11:12:51 -0500 I have a NeXT 040 Slab and I am having booting problems. My system hangs when it starts up the ppp services. Is there a key combination that I can use so that I may edit the startup so the ppp service doesn't start? Any suggestions are more than helpful. Thanks! -Ryan (I love NeXTs) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ryan Sowers-Martinez **e-mail: superfly@santafe.edu University of Rochester rs007e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu CPU Box 277395 superfly@aardvark.bcs.rochester.edu Rochester, NY 14627 root@aardvark.bcs.rochester.edu (H)716-274-0518 sowers@bcs.rochester.edu (W)716-275-4067 ** My homepage is located at: http://www.santafe.edu/~superfly -------------------------------------------------------------------- I am reachable by email. My address is: superfly@santafe.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------- ________ __ __ ______ ______ _______ ______ __ __ __ | ______| | | | | | ___ | | ____| | ____ | | ____| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | || | | | | || | | | | \ \ / / | |_____ | | | | | | || | |___ | | || | |___ | | \ \ / / |______ | | | | | | |__|| | ____| | |___|| | ____| | | \ v / | | | | | | | ____| | | | __| | | | | | | ______| | | |__| | | | | |___ | |\ \ | | | |____ | | |_______| |______| |_| |_____| |_| \_\ |_| |______| |_| ********* ******** *** ******* *** *** *** ******** *** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: "Christopher R. Bowman" <crb@Glue.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 12:05:17 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Message-ID: <33301CCD.569D@Glue.umd.edu> References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dan Bikle <dbikle@rahul.net> Dan Bikle wrote: > > NeXT owners, > > I'm impressed with the advice I received here on my NeXT 400 dpi printer. > > Now.... > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > > -Dan > My quantum 3.5 inch 1gig fireball has worked great in both my cube and now my slab. My Seagate Elite 3 also works very well in my cube 2900 MB for only $350 (5 1/2 inch full height though) --------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@Glue.umd.edu <A HREF="http://www.glue.umd.edu/~crb">My home page</A>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 1997 16:01:41 -0600 From: alanlb@rrinc.com Subject: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't want it to spend all its time swapping)... opinions, anyone? thanks! alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: ahh@eng.sun.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: 19 Mar 1997 16:34:53 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> Hi, Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If so, what is the highest clock speed that they were able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory & NuBus? How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? --- -aslam
From: sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: The fuse inside NeXTstation power supplies Date: 19 Mar 1997 12:58:28 GMT Organization: Glasgow University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Keywords: NeXT, power supply, repair, hardware I've seen several posts here recently talking about dead power supplies. I had one yesterday morning, and luckily had a spare sitting around (purchased from Jim Moosmann). Another time this happened, I could hear glass tinkling around in the supply and correctly assumed the fuse was blown, but in trying to get at the fuse to simply replace it, I broke the connection between 2 of the boards in the supply. I never went any further with it. This time though, I realised that the fuse is situated adjacent to the connector where the power cable goes in. Instead of trying to pull the whole thing apart, I simply removed this connector (not too hard), and because the wires holding it in were long enough, it simply dangled out. The fuse was then accessible at the point of a screwdriver. I haven't tried to replace the fuse yet, but there's always a chance that the fuse *is* the only thing blown. I live in hope. Stephen Brandon Systems Administrator, Department of Music, e-mail: S.Brandon@music.gla.ac.uk 14 University Gardens, (NeXT mail welcomed) University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland
From: ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE: dual head display Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 16:57:43 +0800 Organization: Global Information Networks (Hong Kong), Public Internet Access. Message-ID: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is capable to display two monitor. Any one tried to do it? K.T.Chan
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:15:58 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Hi, I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need some advice on using it. Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to be able to read the CD-ROM. When the machine boots I see the following : SONY CD-ROM CPU-541 as sd1 at sco target 4 lun 0 sd1 : UNIT ATTENTION Waiting for drive to come ready . Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) Blk size in lable (2048 != file system blk size (1024) UNABLE TO READ DISK LABEL Generic SCSI Device as sg0 at sc0 target 7 lun 7 0dc0 at 0x2012000 0d0 at odc0 slave 0 drive ROM v8, servo ROM v8 0d1 at 0dc0 slave 1 en0 at 0x200600 About the same thing happens when I change the scsi setting to 5 on the CD-ROM. After booting the machine prompts me with the message : "External Disk is unreadable" and later "Do you really want to erase?" Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Emmett
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Date: 20 Mar 1997 03:00:13 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Message-ID: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with NS3.3. Thanks in advance. da bisk
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 00:31:34 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> ahh@eng.sun.com writes: > > Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If > > so, what is the highest clock speed that they were > > able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory > > & NuBus? > > It won't work. The same clock that drives the CPU also drives a > number of other things (video, DSP, sound...), resulting in > undesirable side effects. There's no NuBus in a slab. Everything > hangs off the memory bus. > > Now, if you happen to be a studly hardware hacker, you might be > able to design a daughter card to stuff in the 040 socket that > would run the 040 at a faster rate, while phase locking with the > CPU board clock, and doing interesting things to timing signals > going between the main board and the CPU. I'd suggest the name > 'Nitro' for the card... > > > How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? > > This only has an effect if you could change the clock rate. > An 040 with a 25 MHz clock runs at 25 MHz. Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. - Jeff Dutky
From: Ryan Watkins <vamp@dimensionx.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 19 Mar 1997 23:35:05 -0800 Message-ID: <x6hgi7xbh2.fsf@zero.dimensionx.com> References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> writes: > I like the Microsoft Natural keyboard. The great thing about it is > that it is widely available, cheap, comfortable and stylish. You > should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for their > keyboard. BTW - It's ironic that Microsoft makes great hardware and > lousy software. I would second this suggestion. I used to dislike the MS Natural keyboard, but got used to it and like it. One really nice thing is that I've now got a consistant keyboard across a number of machines that I use. All the PC's I deal with have MS Natural keyboards, regardless of the OS I've got running on them. -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains vamp@vamp.org below shining citadels surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb
From: hhoff@ultra.media-group.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Wide SCSI Controller w/disk cache Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Date: 20 Mar 1997 14:34:45 GMT Organization: media group Message-ID: <5grhu5$cs7$1@wwwproxy.seicom.net> References: <5gq97t$oq4@news.4dcomm.com> Stephen D. Biskis (bisk@4dcomm.com) wrote: >Does anybody have any especially good or bad experiences with any particular >disk caching wide SCSI controller. I'm in the market for one to use with >NS3.3. DPT. They rule. Stable and fast as hell. 4 MB cache makes your system run; 16 MB or more (up to 64 possible) make you effectively forget about your hard disk, no matter how slow it is. Holger
From: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 18 Mar 1997 22:06:20 GMT Organization: Yale University Message-ID: <5gn3ks$2ia@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <5g9uu8$4ug@news.ycc.yale.edu> <332D17A8.2492@mysolution.com> Hello- Thanks to those who have helped already, but we are still having no luck in getting the zip drive to work. So far we have tried both scsi addresses, terminated and unterminated. We even unplugged the printer and tried to use that address. The OS simply refuses to recognize the zip drive. Any help would be appreciated! Just in case it helps, I will give a complete description of the system : Intel Pentium 90MHz, Plato motherboard, 24MB memory. DPT 2021 Fast SCSI-2 controller. IBM 540MB SCSI-2 hard drive Diamond stealth64 PCI 4MB video card Intel EtherExpress 16C Combo Ethernet card Thanks -Jim Tommy Hwang (me@mysolution.com) wrote: : J. Hormuzdiar wrote: : > : > Hello- : > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an : > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but : > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't work : What kind of SCSI Card did you use?
From: goldman@visi.com (Matthew Goldman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:26:51 GMT Organization: Vector Internet Services, Inc. Message-ID: <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: : Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) : Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT : : > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an : > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but : > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't : > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). : : did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ : : http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html That is a nice faq; however, it fails to mention that the NeXT will read/write PC and MAC formatted disks without any problems! Way cool, 100 MB burst sneakernet! Matt -- O O __ | \| O O /|\ -/- _ __\ O _\O |/ (/ O/ /\- /|\ / \ / ) / \ | /O _ O/_ _ O_ ^_ / \^_ )\ / \ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Matthew Goldman E-mail: goldman@visi.com Home: (612) 535-5220 Work: (612) 883-6640 My day today? Nothing major, just Xenon base gone, Scorpio gone, Tarrant dead, Tarrant alive and then I found out Blake sold us out.
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 Date: 20 Mar 1997 16:09:22 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> HELP! I have a Micron Pentium Pro system with 64 Mb of RAM. The system came with the #9Imagine128 Series 2 (Rev 2) , 4Mb video board. I downloaded & installed 2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriver.pkg.compressed from NeXTanswers (Version 3.30). The problem I'm having is that it just plain don't work!!!!! When I boot using this driver the monitor doesn't sync and I don't get a thing on the Monitor. I've tried another video board (#9GXE64Pro, which uses the S3 chipset) and it works fine. If I use the #9Imagine128 Series 2 board while booting into Win95 everything works great, confirming that the board works. What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: My slab thinks my CD-ROm is a floppy?!?!? Message-ID: <ukv209afk4p.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 19:17:42 GMT Hi... i've got a black mono '040 slab, and I'm having a bit of a problem. To give you an idea of my SCSI setup, here's a desc: /dev/sd0a / (200 Meg HD) SCSI ID 0 /dev/sd1a /seraphim (1.2 Gig HD) 1 /dev/sd2a /private/swapdisk (100 Meg HD) 2 /dev/rsd3h /ZIP-100 (100 Meg SCSI ZIP drive) 5 /dev/sd4a /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 (NEC MulstiSpin 3X CD-ROM drive) 6 (I've also tried swapping the IDs for the ZIP and CD-ROM). (The first two are internal, the others are external, and properly terminated). Aaaaanyway... I keep having problems with the CD-ROM drive. It times out during reads, and I have to eject/re-mount the disk to deal with it. Also, for SOME reason, the console log reports that the slab thinks the CD-ROM is a FLOPPY! This *can't* be right, can it? Here's what I mean: Mar 20 12:55:22 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 reselect timeout - target 6 sd4: UNIT ATTENTION sd4 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd4 (6,0): sense key:0x6 additional sense code:0x29 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) Mar 20 13:07:17 Workspace: Unmounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 Disk Label: NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 Disk Capacity 192MB, Device Block 2048 bytes Disk is Write Protected Mar 20 13:07:33 Workspace: Mounted floppy disk at /NEXTSTEP_Dev_3.2 What is happening here? Anyone? Thanks much! Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: bestor@dpls.dacc.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT FIMI monitor specs? Date: 20 Mar 1997 19:18:55 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5gs2iv$10lo@news.doit.wisc.edu> Does anyone know the spec's on NeXT's 17" Philips FIMI monitors? I know what the NeXT hardware outputs (1120x832, 68Hz, non-interlaced, sync on green) but is that all the monitor is capable of? Is it Multisync or fixed frequency, etc? - Gareth
From: wonjlee@easyway.net (Won J. Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXT N-1000 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 08:00:20 GMT Organization: c410 Message-ID: <5gqqpk$u2j@fiji.easyway.net> It is an 040 25MHz model with 12MB RAM. The optical drive works fine. I'll throw in two od cartridges. The 400dpi printer is almost new and the toner shouldn't need to be replaced for quite a while. 17" gs monitor, keyboard, and mousr are all in excellent conditions. It has NextStep 2.1 installed on it. A friend at work gave this to me recently, so I don't know much about Next machines. I think someone who knows the system could put this machine to a much better use. Could someone either let me know what the fair value for this machine is or make an offer? I'll accept the highest offer in a week. Won Lee
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 20 Mar 1997 20:44:40 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gs7jo$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Cc: emclean@slip.net In <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > Hi, > I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need > some advice on using it. > Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and > inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to > be able to read the CD-ROM. > When the machine boots I see the following : <snipped> > Does anyone have any suggestions? > Thanks, > Emmett well I wouldn't boot the machine with a CD in the drive; does this same thing happen if you boot "normally" and then mount the CD? -rick
From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next or Intel? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:39:39 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Message-ID: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have been told of a Next station for sale locally, I am told its a Next 200 colour, is there such a thing? Is it worth buying? Whats it worth? Or should I opt for an Intel box? Opinions (however biased) needed... Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What the hell is a Quix Daydream? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7CKz7.KsJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 15:13:55 GMT References: <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net>, Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: > I know it has something to do with running Mac programs, but what is it >exactly? Thanks in advance. > It's a hardware/software combo that runs the MacOS on black hardware. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: jindra@uni-koblenz.de (Axel Jindra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!! SPEA Mirage P64 VL 2MB Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:48:26 GMT Organization: IfM@UniKo Message-ID: <jindra-2003972249390001@fourier.uni-koblenz.de> Who knows how to adress the above graphics board uner NS 3.3 ? Any help appreciated. Thx cu Axel. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Axel Jindra Institut fuer Mediendidaktik Universitaet in Koblenz Rheinau 1 - D56075 Koblenz (jindra@uni-koblenz.de) Tel. +49-261-9119-656 (a.jindra@ifm.uni-koblenz.de) Fax: +49-261-9119-652 (http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~jindra)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 (Joe Blow) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3331C058.54EA@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:55:25 GMT Whoops. My apologies. Dummy settings in Netscape (Joe Blow etc.) were still in place. Arno
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: Joe Blow <joe@site.com> Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3331BFF5.50BB@site.com> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: joe's place References: <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:53:47 GMT > What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. > Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? That doesn't matter - it doesn't, as far as I know, apply to PnP PCI cards. > Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? > Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. Again, you don't need to worry about this. Based on my own experience however, I would make sure that you match the pre-set sync/resolution of your monitor with the settings in Configure.app. i.e. only select modes in Configure that are already preset for your monitor. But I may be wrong here. One other difficulty I had, which was just a stupid error on my part, was having both the beep and the SB16 drivers installed. This messed things up in various ways, incl. the display. Hope this helps. I am using the driver & card on a Dell PPro w/o any problems now (NS 3.3). good luck, arno
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:00:34 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> Can someone tell me if there is a problem with using 2 16MB 60ns non-parity SIMMS side by side 2 70ns 8MB non-parity SIMMs in my NeXT Turbo? Does it have to be 70ns across the board? Or is there a compatibility issue with 60 vs 70 ns SIMMs? E-mail responses, please. Thanks. John
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:11:05 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> Cc: hponeill@indigo.ie In <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> Paul O'Neill wrote: > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have > been told of a Next station for sale locally, I am told its a Next 200 > colour, is there such a thing? no. the color machines made were: 1. NeXTstation Color (25 Mhz 12-bit color/4-bit alpha) 2. NeXTstation Turbo Color (33 Mhz 12-bit color/4-bit alpha) 3. NeXTCube w/ NeXTDimension (25 Mhz 24-bit color/12-bit alpha) 4. NeXTCube Turbo w/ NeXTDimension (33 Mhz 24-bit color/12-bit alpha) >Is it worth buying? at the right price, yes. >Whats it worth? check c.s.n.marketplace; price depends heavily on how much RAM, how much disk, how recent the OS version, and whether user only OS or includes developer tools. > Or should I opt for an Intel box? > how adverse are you to intel boxen? how much money do you have? how much speed do you need? >Opinions (however biased) needed... with the exception of sound support and overall integration, a "properly configured" intel system running 3.2 or greater is almost as pleasurable to use as a black box. modern intel boxes (P5, P6 >133 MHz) are quite fast. > Thanks, > Paul. -rick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: RE: dual head display Message-ID: <E7C4Hs.6Mo@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 09:17:52 GMT In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> writes: > Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? > > Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is > capable to display two monitor. > > Any one tried to do it? > We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. -- ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: **Newbie. (HELP)** Message-ID: <E7CJ3F.7uw@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <tj-1803971646030001@i544.oro.net> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 14:33:15 GMT In article <tj-1803971646030001@i544.oro.net> tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) writes: > Just started using a NeXT Turbo Cube. Need to modify the rc.local file in > the /etc folder but will not let me save my modification. It tells me I > need to be in the ROOT but I am having a hard time understanding how to be > in the ROOT and then how to modify this file. > > In a nutshell, how do I get into the root so I can modify files like this > rc.local. Once I am in this root, how can I modify the file from there. > > Thanks you. > > Thomas Hi Thomas, I guess you have never seen the login panel of your Turbo Cube? If so, you are quite probably logged in as user "me" (which you can confirm by opening /NextApps/Terminal.app and typing "whoami"). Use Preferences.app (the clock icon in the dock) to set a password for user me. This will prevent NextStep from auto-logging you in as me. At the login panel, type "root" with no password and you will be logged in as user root (which is allowed to modify those system files, but be careful what you are doing!). It's also a good idea to set a password for user root (using Preferences.app, as above). At a terminal window, type "su" to change your current user to root (me is normally allowed to do this since it is in the wheel group). Hope this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7D3Bu.IuI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 21:50:18 GMT References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu>, Jeffrey S. Dutky <dutky@wam.umd.edu> wrote: > >Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used >in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 >was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. > '040s are *always* "clock doubled". They require (or at least work on) two clocks, one at, say, 33MHz and the other at 66MHz. What you're referring to was a marketing gimmick that Apple and Motorola used to make their machines look better once the onslaught of high clock-frequency Intel boxes came along. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gambit@beast.erols.com (Gregory John Casamento) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Scanners for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 21 Mar 1997 05:12:22 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gt5bm$14s@boursy.news.erols.com> Hi, I am wondering which scanners will work with NSFIP. If anyone has any suggestions, please let me know. Thanks, Greg C.
From: Tommy Hwang <me@mysolution.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:42:20 -0500 Organization: Internet Solutions Incorporated of Fort Wayne, IN Message-ID: <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> References: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rick Sanford wrote: > how adverse are you to intel boxen? how much money do you have? how much > speed do you need? > > >Opinions (however biased) needed... > > with the exception of sound support and overall integration, a "properly > configured" intel system running 3.2 or greater is almost as pleasurable to > use as a black box. modern intel boxes (P5, P6 >133 MHz) are quite fast. Unfortunately, I have to disagree here... My laptop, 486/100 is performing better in almost every respect, than my NeXTCube 25 Megahertz (no Dimension board, however much I would love to have one). What's even more interesting is that I have 64Mb of RAM on my NeXTCube and only 40Mb on my laptop. Another thing... Don't get any of the black NeXT systems if you intend to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in "host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I can buy one NOW. I know my words above sounds contradicting, but I love the shape and looks of the NeXT Black systems and I think it would be a great attraction in the restaurant (my parent own) instead of the ugly beige box, it is just unfortunate that the black systems I have can not handle the proper baud rate (56K or greater). -ME
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: zip drive Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:15:01 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320200151.11106A-100000@kira> References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Matthew Goldman <goldman@visi.com> In-Reply-To: <5grogb$6tc$1@darla.visi.com> On 20 Mar 1997, Matthew Goldman wrote: > : did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ > : > : http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html > > That is a nice faq; however, it fails to mention that the NeXT will > read/write PC and MAC formatted disks without any problems! Way cool, > 100 MB burst sneakernet! Probably assumed that people knew that, since NeXT can read/write all types of disks for DOS/Mac. I use it to impress my Mac/PC friends all the time.... one of them just bought a program to add this functionality to his PC. Just say no to expensive add-ons that should be part of the OS!!!! TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:40:39 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320203803.11106E-100000@kira> References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: John Badanes <john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> [ Replied only to *.hardware, messages should not be crossposted to *.misc! See charter on www.stepwise.com ] I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than 70ns. As long as the *pairs* are the same, there should not be any problem. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor On 21 Mar 1997, John Badanes wrote: > Date: 21 Mar 1997 02:00:34 GMT > From: John Badanes <john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc, comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS > > Can someone tell me if there is a problem with using 2 16MB > 60ns non-parity SIMMS side by side 2 70ns 8MB non-parity SIMMs > in my NeXT Turbo? > > Does it have to be 70ns across the board? Or is there a > compatibility issue with 60 vs 70 ns SIMMs? > > E-mail responses, please. > > Thanks. > > John > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 21 Mar 97 07:18:18 GMT In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >would not mount. > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >on how to mount the OD? > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >the crash. > >Thanks, > >Bill Anderson NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical path which can be fixed). What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't show up? What messages? david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: Chuck Knight <cknight@flash.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 01:34:18 -0600 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I used to absolutely DROOL every time I saw a NEXT cube...fabulous machine, and one that I always wanted. They came out with newer and faster machines, but the original cube always held a certain interest for me. Well, I'm just been given an '030 cube motherboard as a curiosity and, of course, I'd LOVE to hook it up and play. Unfortunately, this is *all* I have...an '030 cube motherboard with 8M of SIMMs. (OK, bare bones system...it's easy enough to add memory!) It's a leftover from an '030 to '040 upgrade. I assume that the power supply connector is located within the pin-and-socket connector at the end of the board...and, presumably this is also the bus. It's been years since I thought about NEXT, and I just lucked into this motherboard...I could use some help. What do I need to hack this machine, so I can get it up and running? A quick look at the connectors shows SCSI, ethernet, serial...maybe serial terminal is a workable option? It wouldn't be all pretty, but it'd show me that it works. Let's see...I'll need a SCSI hard drive, and CD-ROM. Anything else? Eh...first things first! At my disposal, I have a host of PC parts...can I hack a power supply from a standard PC power supply? I've noticed from the FAQ's and the posts in this newsgroup that it operates at the normal +-5 and +-12VDC, so it *should* be possible to hack it pretty easily. I've found the "no monitor boot" dongle schematic in the FAQ...that should also be pretty helpful. Now...anyone got an old copy of the OS lying around? :-) -- Chuck Knight mailto:cknight@flash.net P.S. Forgive the incoherence of this message...I should know better than to post at 1:30am.
From: vick@earthling.net (Earthling Vick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.memory,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.misc,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.motherboards,misc.forsale.computers.pc-specific.systems Subject: (4) 4MB 70ns 30pin 9chip SIMMs $119 Shipped! 16MB Total! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 02:00:38 -0600 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <MPG.d9bfc1c4d75fd0c9896e9@netnews.worldnet.att.net> FORSALE: (Qty 4) 4MB 70ns 30pin SIMMs (9 chip type) 16MB Total $119 2-Day Shipping FREE, but prepaid only (personal check is fine).
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Scanners for NEXTSTEP for Intel Date: 21 Mar 1997 08:26:54 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5gtgoe$3r7@news3.digex.net> References: <5gt5bm$14s@boursy.news.erols.com> gambit@beast.erols.com (Gregory John Casamento) wrote: > Hi, I am wondering which scanners will work with NSFIP. If anyone > has any suggestions, please let me know. http://www.ipc.de/information/products/index.html http://www.ipc.de/information/products/data/scanomatic.html ScanOmatic 2.2 395 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (HP, Umax-HSD, AGFA, EPSON) ScanOmatic 2.2 1,495 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (XRS-1, xray film scanner) ScanOmatic 2.2 998 NEXTSTEP scanner driver (Oce, large size scanner) Most agreed that the AGFA line was likely the best quality product supported... YMMV. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | Jag talar inte svenska )^> %^) =^)
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting problem... Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:22:40 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320201843.11106B-100000@kira> References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970319111126.22636B-100000@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Superfly <rs007e@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970319111126.22636B-100000@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> > I have a NeXT 040 Slab and I am having booting problems. My system hangs > when it starts up the ppp services. Is there a key combination that I can > use so that I may edit the startup so the ppp service doesn't start? > Any suggestions are more than helpful. Thanks! boot into single user mode and edit /etc/rc.local [ If you don't know how to do that, see my 'V-FAQ' page at the URL below ] > -Ryan (I love NeXTs) Me too. I dislike overly long .sig files, however, and would mention that it used to be netiquette not to have a .sig over 4 lines.... I know, living in the past... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:26:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320202439.11106C-100000@kira> References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: alanlb@rrinc.com In-Reply-To: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> On Wed, 19 Mar 1997 alanlb@rrinc.com wrote: > hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, > and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it > out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't > want it to spend all its time swapping)... I would put in 32ram, but I wouldn't put OS4.1. I might put 4.2 when it comes out, but I'd probably wait to hear how stable it is. I've got a 040/25 that has 3.3 on it, and probably won't even get updated. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor , it isn't my fault ;-) I'll be buying an Intel from http://www.bifrostworks.com/ next month. I've had a lot of contact with Jason McNamara there, and would highly recommend him to you or anyone else. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:04:20 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> Cc: alanlb@rrinc.com In <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> alanlb@rrinc.com wrote: > hello, i've a 25MHz mono slab with 20MB of memory running 3.2, > and am wondering whether (a) it's worth the expense to max it > out to 32MB and (b) OPENSTEP 4.1 will run comfortably (i wouldn't > want it to spend all its time swapping)... > > opinions, anyone? > > thanks! > alan > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet > opinions, being the key word, here. well it's worth it if the upgrade strategy compares favorably with the alternative(s). if the alternative is to replace the 040 with a i386 based PC, and you have: 1. need for speed 2. money enough for another computer 3. patience or "knowledge" to get the PC to work "almost as well as 040-based box" 4. need for color screen than probably not. if, on the other hand, the alternative is to stick with your current set-up: 25MHz mono slab 20MB of memory running 3.2 and you don't have: 1. need for speed 2. money enough for another computer 3. patience or "knowledge" to get the PC to work "almost as well as 040-based box" 4. need for color screen than it would be worth it. it's the cheapest, easiest route to "currency" in terms of OPENSTEP-ness. I think you'll recognize a difference in performance (positive) between 20 and 32 MB, and OS4.1 will run on a mono slab. whether it runs "fast" or not is a matter of individual perception. It should be plenty usable, I think, unless you are one of those rare folks who don't want your computer to swap. ever. period. also, for a user, the requirements may go down from those of a developer. if you are using the machine for normal non-development tasks, the mono will (IMHO) work OK with 4.1 and 32 MB. for dev work and compiles, etc. you would want, at the very least, either another machine on a network to use as a compile server, or a good book of short stories to keep handy. I've still got a 25MHz 040 machine on my network, running 3.2 on only 8 MB and I find it usable. it swaps, so OK. It's not as fast as, well, as a "faster machine" would be. so OK. I deal with it. I would imagine 4.1 with 32 would compare favorably to my 3.2 with 8. -rick
From: dental@precipice.com (Rick Sanford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What the hell is a Quix Daydream? Date: 20 Mar 1997 21:09:13 GMT Organization: Dental Records[tm] Message-ID: <5gs91p$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Cc: rmarkle@earthlink.net In <332F9ABB.7239@earthlink.net> Rich Markle wrote: > I know it has something to do with running Mac programs, but what is it > exactly? Thanks in advance. > > roughly, it is Apple MAC LC rom(s?) in a box that plugs into the dsp port of a moto (040) NeXT, allowing one to boot either as NeXTSTEP _or_ MAC/OS (7.x). No using both at the same time, no sound support (MAC audio apps don't work); colour works fine from what I have heard, and can be used on a NeXTDimension. There may be some info in the FAQ or there may be a web site somewhere with info. -rick
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:03:38 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5gu80a$9s9@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <3331BFF5.50BB@site.com> <5grnfi$759@news.acns.nwu.edu> In Re: HELP! with #9Imagine128 Series 2 comp.sys.next.hardware <ArticleDisplayer: 0xc899c> writes, >> What troubles me is that in Configure.app in the expert settings there is no entry for Memory Maps, I/O Ports, IRQ Levels. >> Could this have anything to do wiith the symptoms I'm seeing? > > That doesn't matter - it doesn't, as far as I know, apply to PnP PCI > cards. > >> Can anyone tell me how they have their expert settings configured using a #9Imagine128 Series 2 board? >> Does anyone have any suggestions how I can get this board to work. > > Again, you don't need to worry about this. Based on my own experience > however, I would make sure that you match the pre-set sync/resolution of > your monitor with the settings in Configure.app. i.e. only select modes > in Configure that are already preset for your monitor. But I may be > wrong here. > > One other difficulty I had, which was just a stupid error on my part, > was having both the beep and the SB16 drivers installed. This messed > things up in various ways, incl. the display. > > Hope this helps. I am using the driver & card on a Dell PPro w/o any > problems now (NS 3.3). > > good luck, > > arno Unfortunately, my video monitor doesn't have user controlled sync/resolutions. I have a Hitachi 21" multiscan/multisync monitor that is supposed to autosync. I've carefully read through the manual and there is no mention of how to manually set the sync & resolution. David
From: zander@conextions.com (Aleksey Sudakov) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading 25 MHz mono slab: worth it? Date: 21 Mar 1997 15:33:52 GMT Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <5gu9p0$ecu@news-central.tiac.net> References: <858806788.8041@dejanews.com> <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> In-Reply-To: <5gs8ok$sjv@news1-alterdial.uu.net> >I would imagine 4.1 with 32 would compare favorably to my 3.2 with 8. I disagree. I had 3.3 with 8MB then I upgraded to 4.1 (yeah, 4.1 run on 8MB and I could do basic stuff and even once I surfed the net. Call me crazy) and later added another 12MB. My perseption is that 4.1 with 20MB is faster then 3.1 (3.3) 8MB. Regards, Aleksey
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:22:16 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e67ylf9dj.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> <5gfp5d$edq@news2.cais.com> <x6hgi7xbh2.fsf@zero.dimensionx.com> I just take my Kinesis to work every day :-)
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:21:01 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e7mj1f9fm.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <199703130218.VAA04490@kira.peak.org> Well I use a Kinesis Model 130 ... bit radical but it depends what you want. I also tried the Lexmark Keyboard but elected to go the whole hog with the Kinesis. After sticking at it .. I definately feel a lot more comfortable on the kinesis that my previous keyboard. http://www.kinesis-ergo.com I think. Thanks Scott!
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:25:29 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e4te5f986.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> writes: > > Responding To: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> > Original Date: 16 Mar 1997 03:24:29 GMT > > > You should also check out Kinesis which uses a cup-layout for > > their keyboard. > > I did checkout Kinesis, which costs over $200 for a "basic" > keyboard! There's nothing basic about the Kinesis keyboard. You should perhaps ring up a vendor and use their 30 day trial period. Warning. You have to make a large commitment to use the keyboard though. I almost gave up and don't regret sticking at it. Honestly though. I don't know what you do but for my health $200 or the difference in price b/w a MS Natural or some other keyboard isn't significant. Depends on whether you're a poor student I guess :-) A little rich for my blood, although it would be nice. > Right now I'm going back and forth between an ergo (at work) and a > non-ergo at home. I'm faster on the non, because I'm used to it, > but the ergo does feel better and forces me to type better. > The kinesis will _force_ you to type better you really have no other choice. Like I said. It's an all or nothing thing with the kinesis since initially you won't feel comfortable on it. > TjL > > -- > TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK > META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ > NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me > Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor >
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@justine.elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.1 won't startup after just installing Date: 21 Mar 1997 12:26:54 -0500 Organization: American Commerce & Technology Message-ID: <e3etpf95t.fsf@justine.elastica.com> References: <313f9090.1233103@news.mindspring.com> Have you tried verbose mode? at the boot prompt enter -v and see how far it gets ... I'm guessing it will get as far as inetd and then block on sendmail
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: 21 Mar 1997 17:41:35 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5guh8f$h5s@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Cc: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca In <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill wrote: > In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, > Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: > >The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > >the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > >remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > >have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > >(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > >would not mount. > > > >Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > >wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > >on how to mount the OD? > > > >Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > >the crash. > > > >Thanks, > > > >Bill Anderson > > NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > > It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done > including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets > weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical > path which can be fixed). > > What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't > show up? What messages? > > david > I would try and clean it. Mine died on my several times but only required a little cleaning to get up and running again. Search NEXTAnswers for directions on how to clean the OD. Its a little involved though... -- Mark Trombino mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (NEXTMail, MIME Mail okay)
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac Logic Board Batteries Date: 21 Mar 1997 20:00:57 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5gupdp$ckv$2@gryphon.phoenix.net> First, forgive me for posting off topic. This is also NOT a troll for flames or computer religion. This a good deal that I wanted to spread the word on. Oh, you folks are so CYNICAL! It is not spam or an ad. If you work on Macs (or would like to) the Mac Logic Board web pages (see my sig for the URL) will be useful for you. This advertisement-free site tells you how to recognize and cure the Dying Logic Board Battery problem. The site has photos, tips, links, trivia, etc. Since you folks may get questions about Macs - these pages should be of interest. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/houston/recycling> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: While We Were On The Topic Of Batteries .. Date: 21 Mar 1997 20:03:34 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5gupim$ckv$3@gryphon.phoenix.net> If anyone in Houston, Texas has a NeXT cube and would not mind - I would like to take some photos of it. Could I ask for email replies?? TIA -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/houston/recycling> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:37:49 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Message-ID: <hponeill-2103972338570001@ts05-16.dublin.indigo.ie> References: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> In article <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie>, hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) wrote: > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, however I have > been told of a Next station for sale locally. I have found out more about the machine for sale: NeXT Turbo Colour with 16MB RAM, 250 MB HD 17 inch colour monitor, mic/speaker, keyboard and mouse. Nexts are very rare in this part of the world (Ireland), I have never actually seen one. I need to know if this is a suitable machine on which to learn Openstep programming or is it hopelessly out of date and should I get a Pentium. The object of course is to have some idea how to program Rhapsody when it arrives ( yes I'm another refugee from Macland....). Some other questions that spring to mind are: What kind of RAM is fitted? Is it soldered in or socketed? Can I still get system software updates for this machine? Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? Many Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 22 Mar 1997 00:33:46 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5gv9db$bd1$1@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> In <5gqh6e$5hd@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > I just purchased an external NeXT CDROM and expect I need > some advice on using it. > Ah, I placed a CD having SoftPC for Next into the CD-ROM caddy and > inserted it into the CD-ROM figuring that any NeXT machine ought to > be able to read the CD-ROM. > After booting the machine prompts me with the message : > "External Disk is unreadable" and later "Do you really want to erase?" You don't say what version of NeXTstep you are running. There were some modifications made to the software that handles CDROM file systems about vintage NS2.1. A floppy disk with the new CDROM.fs code was distributed with the NS Educational Demo software back in 1991 or so. By this time, your best bet is to get NS3.3 with its floppy disk auxiliary software, and go from there. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 15:35:15 -0800 Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-2103971535150001@mfs-annex1-p25.dsphere.net> References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> Great idea, but you have quite a challenge ahead of you. First you have to get power to this board, second you have to somehow connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to this thing. No easy task since all three plug in through the same connecter. I've never heard of anyone using a non-next keyboard, but I you can use an old logitech bus mouse, if you can find one. The technical challenges are steep enough that I've never heard of anyone doing what you suggest. Good luck! Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: Chuck Knight <cknight@flash.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 20:35:01 -0600 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Message-ID: <33334555.53BF@flash.net> References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> <joel-2103971535150001@mfs-annex1-p25.dsphere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Joel Lingenfelter <joel@fefcful.org> Joel Lingenfelter wrote: > > Great idea, but you have quite a challenge ahead of you. > > First you have to get power to this board, second you have to somehow > connect a monitor, keyboard, and mouse to this thing. Exactly. I didn't see a "PC standard" power connector, so I assume it's incorporated into one of the other connectors...either the system bus connector at the "end" of the board, or the 19-pin connector on the back. After I get basic power, the other hardware should be easy to connect...it would just be standard SCSI stuff. I was thinking about using a simple serial terminal at first...it *is* a UNIX box, after all...at least until I can find a monitor, keyboard, and mouse. > No easy task since all three plug in through the same connecter. I've > never heard of anyone using a non-next keyboard, but I you can use an old > logitech bus mouse, if you can find one. Logitech mouse? You're kidding! Those are common as dirt, whereas anything NEXT seems to be rare. (They never seemed to catch on in Dallas) > The technical challenges are steep enough that I've never heard of anyone > doing what you suggest. Good luck! Well, if the "old timers" (I've been at this long enough to be called an old timer) could create "hackintoshes," then I should be able to hack a NEXT. -- Chuck Knight
From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: The perfect [OPENSTEP] motherboard. Date: 21 Mar 1997 19:04:31 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Message-ID: <5gum3v$mmk@guide.muc.de> References: <5ghgec$n77@news3.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: >It's the Asus P65UP5. What's so great about it. Well, it uses a daughter >card to house dual PentiumPro processors. Ok, so what's so great about >that? Well, the very same motherboard takes another daughter card that >housed dual Pentium processors. That might mean, when P7's come out, it >will only require a Daughter card swap to upgrade. Why, because the >daughter card also contains the chipset. Neat, no? Oh it also has 8 simm >sockets instead of the standard 4. If the information I got from Asus at Cebit is correct, they are already redesigning the passive(?!) motherboard for the Klamath type CPUs. So, assumably, one would not be able to take advantage of the theoretical upgrade possiblity, since the board has reached its technical limit. Also, I do not see SMP support in OpenStep/mach/intel in the near future. My personal favorite is the Asus P/I-P55T2P4S, since it has, as the first Asus Pentium board, an onboard SCSI adapter (2940 compatible). Well, it only has six SIMMs though... Thyl
From: sk68@cornell.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: sk68@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5gvsfi$3c6@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Hi everyone, Does anyone know if Pentium class chips from companies other than Intel work with NeXTSTEP 3.3 or 4.0/4.1? I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, if at all, with NeXTSTEP. Thanks everyone, Sung Ho Kim sk68@cornell.edu
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 21 Mar 1997 16:27:19 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320203803.11106E-100000@kira> In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320203803.11106E-100000@kira>, >I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than >70ns. The turbo hardware does know, because I have 60ns SIMMs and the monitor says so at powerup. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:21:47 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h5a2b$o12$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> In article <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> writes: >*This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* >*This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* >Responding To: sk68@cornell.edu >Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT >Message-ID: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - > >> I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, >> if at all, with NeXTSTEP. > >I believe that people have gotten them to work in general, but >either AMD or Cyrix could not work with OmniWeb, which would be a >problem for me.... I'm sticking with the Pentium for my new Intel... It's not just OmniWeb which is the problem. At least for Cyrix/IBM 6x86 chips, the kernel hangs will manifest infrequently using the File Viewer, but can be consistently induced with Omniweb. The problem is deep in the kernel, and Omniweb is multithreaded which is what is causing the problem. Don't buy one; much as I reject monopolies, Intel is the only chip NeXT tests on. -- Leigh Computer Science, University of Western Australia Smith +61-9-380-3778 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: [Q] Booting Problem on the NeXTslab Message-ID: <E7I162.7t@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 13:51:37 GMT In article <332CEA72.79E@soback.kornet.nm.kr> younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> writes: > Hi, I have a NeXTslab and All at once, I could not booting my > slab(IBM 2.1GB). Here is the error massage. > > > Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c > NeXT>b sd > boot sd(0,0,0) > booting SCSI target 0, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()sdmach > Booting from SCSI target 0 lun 0 > sdmach: not found > load failed > > blk0 boot: ec > Bad device > load failed > > > I have another NeXTslab and external CDROM drive. > Please give me some advice. > Thanks, > Now that you have a secons bootable configuration you'd just need a way to externally connect a disk drive (some kind of external SCSI enclosure and cabling). If you can't find a way to fix your drive by other means remove it from the slab, change the SCSI-ID to something suitable on the second slab (in general one higher than the boot drive, i.e. ID #2), and put it in the external cabinet. Then attach it to the second slab and boot verbously. That should put you in a more suitable environment for debugging the drive. Alternatively, you could confirm that the problem is with the disk by swapping them. If the problem travels with the drive... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: need pointers to pinout of black laser printer Message-ID: <E7I223.8J@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <m2zpw359ae.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:10:50 GMT In article <m2zpw359ae.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> writes: > Hello, > > I have a black next laser printer and I would like to make a custom > interface from it to my slab ... > > I know that the cable is a DB-9 MM one-to-one but I would like to know > what pin is what ... I am planing on adding a few LEDs and buttons. > Hi to all the all the "zwiebelkuchen" guys out there (I really love Zwiebelkuchen :-) Although I don't think messing around with a NeXTlaser connection is a good idea (high speed synch port, altering the signal timing might directly affect print quality!), here comes the pinout (from the user manual that came with my slab): Pin 1 Clock Pin 2 Data in Pin 3 Data out 1 Pin 4 Data out 2 Pin 5 Power enable Pin 6-8 Ground Pin 9 NC Have fun, and don't fry he circuit ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: The fuse inside NeXTstation power supplies Message-ID: <E7I2w8.99@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:28:56 GMT In article <5gontk$1o1@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> sbrandon@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - SysAdmin) writes: > I've seen several posts here recently talking about dead power > supplies. I had one yesterday morning, and luckily had a spare > sitting around (purchased from Jim Moosmann). > > Another time this happened, I could hear glass tinkling around > in the supply and correctly assumed the fuse was blown, but in > trying to get at the fuse to simply replace it, I broke the > connection between 2 of the boards in the supply. I never went > any further with it. > > This time though, I realised that the fuse is situated adjacent > to the connector where the power cable goes in. Instead of trying > to pull the whole thing apart, I simply removed this connector > (not too hard), and because the wires holding it in were long > enough, it simply dangled out. The fuse was then accessible at > the point of a screwdriver. > > I haven't tried to replace the fuse yet, but there's always a > chance that the fuse *is* the only thing blown. I live in hope. > Not that I find pleasure in putting you down, but... This fuse is a means of last resort to make sure the power supply won't catch fire if a critical part blows up. Since the thing has an operating range from 100 - 240 VAC and the fuse has to support the current for the 100 V case, the energy that is transferred while blowing the fuse on a 230 V setting is by far enough to fry the cirquit. In most cases this fuse only blows because of a break down in a switching transistor... I sincerily hope to be wrong in your case! I've read about successful repairs of the power supply. But the descriptions read as if it takes an experienced technician with a good stomach and sophisticated equipment (solderd ceramic isolation wafers, for instance). -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu (Weiyuan W Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 24 Mar 1997 07:50:54 -0500 Organization: Virginia Commonwealth University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h5tbe$19l2@atlas.vcu.edu> References: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) writes: >I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's >new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't >supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any >updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to >the Rhapsody group. NeXT recently posted an ATI Rage driver on NeXTanswers (see the sorted by date index). Now all the Gateway 2000's that VCU has been buying can display color under OPENSTEP/Mach. However, the 3Com Etherlink III PCI cards aren't yet. :-( ..Bill Chin s0wwchin@atlas.vcu.edu
From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin` Subject: #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:03:39 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h68kr$hf7@news.acns.nwu.edu> You may have seen my previous post regarding my request for help. Well I have some answers now. To bring you back up to speed I have a 4Mb #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (Rev 2) video board in my 64Mb Micron Pentium Pro system. In systems I have installed this board into in the past, I have had no problems. It turns out that in the older systems they are all running NeXTStep 3.3. Using #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 under 3.3 is supported, while at home I have Openstep 4.1 and the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 does not yet have a supported driver. Now my problem is, when will NeXT get off their duff and recompile/write the driver for the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 _or_ should I just give up and buy another video board _or_ just abort Openstep at home? Unfortunately, I tried downgrading to NeXTSTep 3.3 but I have the problem of having a Adaptec 2940UW controller with a wide disk and I haven't been able to get 3.3 working with that controller. It appears that driver compatibility is a major problem with NeXT.. David A. Johnson Research Engineer, Feinberg Cardiovascular Research Institute, Northwestern University
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:21:32 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3336AA00.3F9D@wam.umd.edu> References: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> <hponeill-2103972338570001@ts05-16.dublin.indigo.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul O'Neill wrote: > > In article <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie>, > hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) wrote: > > > I was considering buying an Intel machine to run Openstep, > > however I have been told of a Next station for sale locally. > > I have found out more about the machine for sale: > > NeXT Turbo Colour with 16MB RAM, 250 MB HD > 17 inch colour monitor, mic/speaker, > keyboard and mouse. > > Nexts are very rare in this part of the world (Ireland), I have > never actually seen one. I need to know if this is a suitable > machine on which to learn Openstep programming or is it hopelessly > out of date and should I get a Pentium. The object of course is > to have some idea how to program Rhapsody when it arrives ( yes > I'm another refugee from Macland....). If the price of the NeXT is similar to or less than the price of the RAM and a similar monitor on the open market then this system is well worth buying. When you get a current version of OPENSTEP it will make a nice system to learn about the basis behind Rhapsody on, though compiles might be a bit slow. > Some other questions that spring to mind are: > What kind of RAM is fitted? > Is it soldered in or socketed? The RAM should be 72-pin SIMMs. Not soldered or socketed. > Can I still get system software updates for this machine? You can get OPENSTEP 4.1 currently from NeXT. The exact product name is OPENSTEP for Mach for NeXT. Some people have been saying to hold off on buying OPENSTEP until they release 4.2 sometime this summer. > Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? I am using an old version of NeXTstep right now and it is at least as pleasant as the MacOS. So pleasant, in fact, that I have been considering abandoning my Mac for a pure OPENSTEP box. Fortunately Apple has made that a moot choice. I can't wait for Rhapsody. - Jeff Dutky
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: power supply of laser printer broken Date: 24 Mar 1997 16:54:51 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hello, The power supply of my Next laser printer is damaged. I'd need some documentation about it. Is there something available on it? thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: david minor <dhminor@facstaff.wisc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep 4.1 on a Thinkpad 560?? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 12:39:47 -0600 Organization: UW-Madison, College of Engineering Message-ID: <3336CA73.25B6@facstaff.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all--we have a question we're hoping someone can help us with: We are trying to install NeXT Openstep 4.1 for Mach on a Thinkpad 560. According to the NeXTAnswers website this machine should be compatible. We're not getting very far with the installation, however--the drivers included on the installation disks all seem to be for SCSI devices. The (external) CD-ROM and floppy drive attached to the machine are PCMCIA. We can't get any of the drivers to even recognize that these devices exist. Has anyone had experience with this, or have suggestions? TIA for any help. david minor College of Engineering Administrative Support
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 00:36:20 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu writes: >Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >> >> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: >> 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus >> >> Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com >> >> Thanks, Stan > >Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT >will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... > >Arno I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC to twisted pait in 6 months. Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------
From: lewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 22 Mar 1997 15:56:00 GMT Organization: Dayton Ohio Network (DONet, Inc.) Message-ID: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Thanks, Stan
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: P120 vs P133 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 11:09:51 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: nsfip-homebrew@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it seems worthwhile to upgrade. Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between P120 and P133 is significant? Thanks TjL
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 16:46:18 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg47574.thr-40c9f5a5.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5h68kr$hf7@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg47574.thr-40c9f5a5.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>daj@nwu.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >To bring you back up to speed I have a 4Mb #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (Rev 2) video board in my 64Mb Micron Pentium Pro system. >In systems I have installed this board into in the past, I have had no problems. It turns out that in the older systems they are all running NeXTStep 3.3. Using #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 under 3.3 is supported, while at home I have Openstep 4.1 and the #9 >Imagine 128 Series 2 does not yet have a supported driver. >Now my problem is, when will NeXT get off their duff and recompile/write the driver for the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 _or_ >should I just give up and buy another video board _or_ just abort Openstep at home? Unfortunately, I tried downgrading to NeXTSTep 3.3 but I have the problem of having a Adaptec 2940UW controller with a wide disk and I haven't been able to get 3.3 >working with that controller. It appears that driver compatibility is a major problem with NeXT.. I am using the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 video card with OS 4.1 on a Dell Dimension XPS Pro just fine. Download the beta series 2 driver from the Next ftp archive in the 3.3 drivers directory. It works just fine under 4.1 -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: nospamthanx@nowhere.com (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:03:32 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5h6tnk$fse@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h4ia4$j6i@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> On 03/23/97, Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: .. Etherlink XL... >I also have this card. Would someone like to suggest a different PCI >ethernet card? I need a "Combo" card as I will be switching from BNC >to twisted pait in 6 months. I've had good success with the Cogent EM 960 and the Inter Etherexpress Pro/10. Both are available in combo versions, and both have solid NS 3.3 drivers. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: 24 Mar 1997 21:44:32 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5h6sk0$hlf$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are > selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it > seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or > was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between > P120 and P133 is significant? It is since the bus runs only with 30 Mhz on a 120 or 150 Mhz Pentium system, but with 33 MHz on a 100 or 133 MHz PC. (Memory clock is 60 MHz vs. 66 MHz). -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 70 vs. 60 ns RAM in NeXT Turbo ADB Date: 24 Mar 1997 22:01:18 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm102-18.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5h6tje$kge$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo, I have read the NeXTanswers and all the info related to RAM installation in old NeXT hardware. But I would like to ask for personal experience: Did 60ns SIMMs slow down your Turbo Station Color ADB (or other Turbos)? I find it a little silly buying 70ns chips when 60ns are 1) cheaper 2) better investment. On the other hand, if the hardware is programmed in a fashion similar to if (70ns) then go_fast else slow_down then I don't wanna risk slowing my comptuter down. Thanks. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Creature@night.com (Creature) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:35:38 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Hi, >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for >Motorola, but I am not sure. > >Thanks for the help, >-Mark I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run OS on moto. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Over clocking a 25MHz NeXT Slab Date: 22 Mar 1997 17:08:51 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5h13n3$8lf$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> <5gq2tl$434@mpaque.mpaque> <3330CB7F.4E70@wam.umd.edu> Jeffrey S. Dutky (dutky@wam.umd.edu) wrote: : Mike Paquette wrote: : > : > In article <5gp4jd$9kb@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> ahh@eng.sun.com writes: : > > Has anyone tried over clocking their 25MHz NeXT Slab? If : > > so, what is the highest clock speed that they were : > > able to achieve without adding wait states to the memory : > > & NuBus? : > : > It won't work. The same clock that drives the CPU also drives a : > number of other things (video, DSP, sound...), resulting in : > undesirable side effects. There's no NuBus in a slab. Everything : > hangs off the memory bus. Not being a NeXT hardware guy, I rush in where angels fear to tread .. At least on Macs, even non-NuBus Macs, there are always (that I have seen) multiple oscillators that clock different components. The problems we Mac chippers have is with the serial ports, floppy drive etc. and seldom with the video. I am now also trying to chip the data busses of Macs in hopes that some of the older fellows might still run faster. Like the LC040 Q 605 runs at 33 MHz (by changing resistor configs and not oscillators) but can run at 40 MHz by changing the oscillator that runs the data bus. : > Now, if you happen to be a studly hardware hacker, you might be : > able to design a daughter card to stuff in the 040 socket that : > would run the 040 at a faster rate, while phase locking with the : > CPU board clock, and doing interesting things to timing signals : > going between the main board and the CPU. I'd suggest the name : > 'Nitro' for the card... : > : > > How about replacing the 040 with a faster part? At least on Macs, this is not necessary. See the Clock Chipping pages http://violet.berkeley.edu/~schrier/mhz.html for an explanation of how Motorola speed rates the 68k series of chips. : > This only has an effect if you could change the clock rate. : > An 040 with a 25 MHz clock runs at 25 MHz. : Didn't Moto make 50 and 66 MHz versions of the '040 that were used : in some of the late model Macs? (I'm pretty sure that the PB190 : was a 66 MHz '040) I thought that those '040s were clock doubled. Marketing fluff. : - Jeff Dutky -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Recycling And Hazardous Waste Disposal Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/houston/recycling> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 18:57:33 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2403971857330001@198.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> In article <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com>, Creature@night.com (Creature) wrote: > >Hi, > >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. > >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 > >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. > >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for > >Motorola, but I am not sure. > > You have to wait for Rhapsody. > > I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run > OS on moto. > NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. Mitch
From: David Young <dwy@ace.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Odd bit of hardware.. Date: 24 Mar 1997 23:52:34 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5h7442$fqr$1@darla.visi.com> This isn't exactly a .next.hardware, but it's associated with my NeXT, so... I'm looking for a UHF/VHF tuner or a cable box I can control in software, preferably via a serial port, to pipe the TV signal to my ND. Rolling cables not a problem. If anyone knows of such a device, or a kit, or something, I'd appreciate the info. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dove Fax software (old stuff) Date: 24 Mar 1997 23:48:11 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5h73rr$44n@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> If you're still in need of a DoveFax.pkg, I could upload it to the ftp directory whose URL you'll give me. __Pascal Bourguignon__ In article <5gk6b1$68e$1@kahu.mrtc.org> danno@mrtc.org (Dan Bigelow) writes: > Hi, > > every-so-often i need to get a fax on my home system, and I have an old > dove-fax with a corrupted (or just wrong) DoveFax.pkg... > > They are no-whereto be found on the net, and without the working software, > i'm outta luck. Anyone have a copy of the old Dove Fax software they > can send me (attach? - nextmail welcome). > > Any help or pointers would be appreciated... > > be well, > > danno
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting problem... Date: 24 Mar 97 13:10:54 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar24131054@howard.one.net> References: 5babc1c2862f9528ac847b84a7ff3ec7 - <199703181504.KAA06844@kira.peak.org> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970319111126.22636B-100000@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320201843.11106B-100000@kira> In-reply-to: Timothy Luoma's message of Thu, 20 Mar 1997 20:22:40 -0800 In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320201843.11106B-100000@kira>, Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: > -Ryan (I love NeXTs) Me too. I dislike overly long .sig files, however, and would mention that it used to be netiquette not to have a .sig over 4 lines.... I know, living in the past... 4 lines? Bah, Tim, you're wasting my pixels, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI timeouts (Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice) Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:30:06 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5h79qu$pg8@news.next.com> References: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> "Timothy J. Luoma" writes > ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to > wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives > are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest > drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is > available. "It made sense at the time". No, really! Some of the older cubes here have hard drives that take even longer than that to spin up and be ready for reading - they timeout the first time the system is turned on. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Message-ID: <E7GK9v.ou@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 18:49:07 GMT In article <3332363a.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote: >In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, >Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> wrote: >>The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got >>the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't >>remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I >>have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files >>(e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it >>would not mount. >> >>Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I >>wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice >>on how to mount the OD? >> >>Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to >>the crash. >> >>Thanks, >> >>Bill Anderson > >NEXTSTEP 3.2 does support the Optical Disk. > >It is possible that your optical disk drive has died (as many have done >including mine and most of those owned by friends -- the laser gets >weak, apparently, though sometimes it is just dust in the optical >path which can be fixed). > >What are the symptoms of the OD not mounting, other than it doesn't >show up? What messages? > Yes, you can either open the ROM montor and watch the booting message, or examine file /usr/adm/message to see if the OD drive is still alive and recognized. If it does, then mount it manually, something like "/etc/mount /dev/od1(a?) /mnt1...." If it does not show up when booting, you may run out of luck. My OD drive still works though.
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 25 Mar 1997 01:26:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mark C Mieczkowski writes > Hi, > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help > on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an > '040 and a PPC601 > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get > it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x > for Motorola, but I am not sure. OPENSTEP doesn't run on Macs yet. You'll want to wait for Rhapsody, Apple's next-generation Operating System (coming later this year), which will run on Power Macintoshes and will be OpenStep compliant. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 19:40:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970324192448.27261A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Mark C Mieczkowski <mieczko1@acsu.buffalo.edu> In-Reply-To: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> On 24 Mar 1997, Mark C Mieczkowski wrote: > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. > I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. > I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for > Motorola, but I am not sure. I think you might be a little confused - 1. A NeXTcube is a computer (hardware) not an operating system (software). It's one of the machines NeXT released during its short stint of manufacturing great hardware (circa 1988 - 1993) 2. You can't run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep on any Macs right now. NEXTSTEP and Openstep/Mach for Motorola are the operating systems that run on NeXT hardware (like the NeXTcube, NeXTstation, NeXTstation Color, etc). NeXT's machines used 040's (except for the original "NeXT Computer," which used an 030), hence the "Motorola" designation. Even though the chip is the same as the one in your Mac, the entire system architecture is different. 3. Apple's new operating system, based on NEXTSTEP, will (hopefully) be out in a year or so. Your 040 won't run it. Your PPC601 probably won't run it either, at least not in the first release. However, the final, "Unified" release may yet support 601-based PowerMacs. If you want to run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep today, you have only 2 (practical) options: 1. Buy a used NeXT machine. They're fairly cheap now, especially with the big fire sale from M-Tech (look for an article from James Moosmann in comp.sys.next.marketplace) Price for a complete, "high-end" NeXTstation Turbo Color with a 21" monitor should run about $1100 once you buy more RAM and a hard drive (if you buy from M-Tech). 2. Buy an Intel box configured to run OpenStep/Mach or NEXTSTEP. You can build your own, but if you're a novice in the Intel world, I wouldn't recommend it. You might check a few companies that build Intel boxes specifically to run NEXTSTEP or OpenStep/Mach. A few URLS: http://www.bifrostworks.com http://www.deepspacetech.com http://www.optimal-object.com Hope this helps a bit. NeXT's web site can be confusing unless you know what you're looking for (even then, it's not ideal). -Isaac
From: Creature@night.com (Creature) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:21:09 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <333752a0.103276344@news.mindspring.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> <mitchell.allen-2403971857330001@198.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run >> OS on moto. >> >NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. I meant OS as in OPENSTEP. Later, Nick E-Mail me at cybobob@mindspring.com
From: Mark Mieczkowski <mieczko1@acsu.buffalo.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: thanks for the help. Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:00:07 -0500 Organization: University at Buffalo Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970324234522.17748B-100000@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970324192448.27261A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: mieczko1 To: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970324192448.27261A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Originator: mieczko1@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu On Mon, 24 Mar 1997, Isaac wrote: > I think you might be a little confused - > Thanks. I was confused. Too bad. I am excited about rhapsody and I was kinda hoping to get my feet wet with Next before Rhapsody came along. I can't justify buying an intel or used Next cube when my mac hardware is in need of an upgrade (in light of the fact that it won't even run rhapsody!) I plan to sell two systems and try toget a minimal PPC604 PCI mac. With that mac in hand, I think I can lay my hands on a developer seed release of rhapsody due (from what I hear) at apple's WWDC. (FWIW) regards, -Mark ________________________________________________________________________ "I know only that I know nothing, which is something, proving conclusively that I know nothing at all." -Socrates Mark Mieczkowski <mieczko1@cs.buffalo.edu> B1-B Squire Hall, SUNY AB 3435 Main ST., Buffalo, NY 14214-3008 Ph: 716-829-3561 Fx: 716-829-3006
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software From: Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333F38D.2E58@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: zlewanto@stan.donet.com Organization: Univ. of Chicago References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 14:58:21 GMT Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: > > Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > > Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > > Thanks, Stan Yes, I'm in the same boat. No driver is available. Maybe someone at NeXT will re-assure us that the driver is on the "planned" list... Arno
From: decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Date: 25 Mar 1997 04:54:50 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5h7lqq$jfe$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <hponeill-2003972140450001@ts12-05.dublin.indigo.ie> <5gsqnp$boo@news1-alterdial.uu.net> <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> Cc: me@mysolution.com In <33322DCC.A93@mysolution.com> Tommy Hwang wrote: > Another thing... Don't get any of the black NeXT systems if you intend > to use higher speed modem connection(s)... The serial port on the NeXT > cube and stations can only handle up to 38,400bps... Even my laptop tops > that. If the turbo-station or cube systems have serial ports that can > handle X2 speed over voice ISDN channels (56K upload & 56K download in > "host mode" confirmed on my laptop), Please tell me immediately - so I > can buy one NOW. I've benchmarked file transfers over a 33.6 K bps SupraExpress modem on a NeXTstation Turbo Color machine. It connects at 56,800 bps and I get sustained transfer speeds of ~26K bps. I am using the NeXT specific modem cable (necessary for hardware flow control) that I got from Deepspace Tech. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: mieczko1@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mark C Mieczkowski) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 24 Mar 1997 20:50:01 GMT Organization: UB Message-ID: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> NNTP-Posting-User: mieczko1 Hi, I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola, but I am not sure. Thanks for the help, -Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7L0Kt.2EL@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 04:31:41 GMT References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com> <mitchell.allen-2403971857330001@198.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <mitchell.allen-2403971857330001@198.detroit-003.mi.dial-access.att.net>, <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >In article <3338aa59.82525920@news.mindspring.com>, Creature@night.com >(Creature) wrote: > >> >Hi, >> >I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help >on this. >> >I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an '040 and a PPC601 >> >What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get it. >> >I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for >> >Motorola, but I am not sure. >> > >You have to wait for Rhapsody. >> >> I am kind of new myself, but I have heard that you do NOT want to run >> OS on moto. >> >NeXTstep runs really well on Motorola hardware. > True. However, it depends on what the original poster meant by "turn one of my macs into a next cube". Neither NeXTSTEP nor OPENSTEP/Mach will run on any Mac hardware, unless you some stratospheric studly hacker. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k Subject: cmsg cancel <33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Date: 25 Mar 1997 05:21:19 GMT Control: cancel <33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Message-ID: <cancel.33327b4a.2777996@news.uqam.ca> Sender: interbbs@usa.net (Inter-BBS) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next From: Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3333FCC7.678B@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Univ. of Chicago Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 15:37:45 GMT Hi, I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their ftp site. Do the drivers exist? thanks, Arno
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Message-ID: <E7JMI8.JL6@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:30:07 GMT Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> wrote: >How hard is to upgrade a 25Mhz Cube to use a dimension board? Are >there any wierd modifications (cutting up the case, etc.) that you have >to do to make it work. Secondly, I am wondering if it will drive a It is easy: just open the case and install the card. >standard MegaPixel Display. I am thinking that I will buy an ND board, >then the monitor later. The ND card only drives a colour monitor. You still need to attach something to the main board to do sound, keyboard and mouse. For that, there are two solutions: 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of course connected to the keyboard. 2. Megapixel. You can use a megapixel instead of a sound box. That will give you a dual-headed setup. Note, if you are brave and knowledgeable about monitor electronics., you could make a power switch for the glow spiral of the megapixel. That means you can turn it off while the computer stays on. Conclusion: the ND board is no use without a colour monitor. It will*not* drive a standard megapixel. That might look likie a disadvantage, but it isn't. The megapixel is proprietary, a colour monitor can be bought on every streetcorner. So, with a ND you become less dependent on the part of the hardware that wears out first (the megapixel). Speedwise, the ND is great if equipped with enough memory. Also, don't forget that if you have a ND running at 32bit/pixel, your WindowServer process will also use a lot more memory (especially in dual-headed setup). I run a ND system (33MHz) with 64MB on the MB and 48MB on the ND. That is acceptable in speed. The special ND stuff (like NeXTV) is especially great. You have a 14" television on your desk with a picture that is acceptable to look at (even from close range). I use a VHS videorecorder as tuner. -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: '030 MB - HELP! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7Go4x.73A@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 20:12:33 GMT References: <333239FA.5229@flash.net> <joel-2103971535150001@mfs-annex1-p25.dsphere.net> <33334555.53BF@flash.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33334555.53BF@flash.net>, Chuck Knight <cknight@flash.net> wrote: > >Exactly. I didn't see a "PC standard" power connector, so I assume it's >incorporated into one of the other connectors...either the system bus >connector at the "end" of the board, or the 19-pin connector on the >back. > Power arrives over the NeXTbus--the big black connector on the "inside" edge. >After I get basic power, the other hardware should be easy to >connect...it >would just be standard SCSI stuff. > The keyboard uses some sort of serial protocol as I recall, and it encodes the mouse data long with it. I think there may be some further processing by the curcuit board in the monitor (which also contains the DAC and ADC for audio, BTW.) >I was thinking about using a simple serial terminal at first...it *is* >a UNIX box, after all...at least until I can find a monitor, keyboard, >and mouse. > If the NVRAM has "Serial port A as alternate console" set then you can boot using a serial terminal. If not, then you can't. >Logitech mouse? You're kidding! Those are common as dirt, whereas >anything >NEXT seems to be rare. (They never seemed to catch on in Dallas) > Logitech *BUS* mouse, remember. Not the serial mouse. The mouse plugs into the keyboard. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703211544.KAA15554@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321102758.11787A@freenet.buffalo.edu> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 10:44:39 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321102758.11787A@freenet.buffalo.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" <bt912@FreeNet.Buffalo.EDU> Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 10:38:16 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321102758.11787A@freenet.buffalo.edu> > Sorry about that Tim. Yes I'm unfamiliar with the newsgroups where > I posted my question. No problem, at least it wasn't a SPAM/UCE! Were I you I might have gone for "comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc" or "comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage" (assuming you're using a PC). I don't know if that's the right group either, just grabbed them from a listing of all the newsgroups. TjL --__==========00000000055022==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703210047.TAA01761@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 97 19:47:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" <bt912@freenet.buffalo.edu> Original Date: Tue, 18 Mar 1997 20:41:58 GMT Message-ID: 551e81e6d08789e8fb6f7b006b7398d5 - > Does anyone know just what the factors are in determining whether > or not a computer can handle one of the larger hard drives that are > available? NeXTStep and OpenStep can handle drives less than 2.0gig disks or partitions. I believe that is all you need to worry about. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 00:41:28 -0500 Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Original Date: 19 Mar 1997 21:15:58 -0800 Message-ID: 57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0 - > When the machine boots I see the following : > > SONY CD-ROM CPU-541 as sd1 at sco target 4 lun 0 > sd1 : UNIT ATTENTION > Waiting for drive to come ready This is normal IF you see a series of "....." after it. If there's no disk in the drive you'll see about this many ....................... and if there is a disk in the drive you should see about this many ...... and then the disk label info (perhaps even just "Disk is write protected" If you don't see those dots, something is wrong TjL ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is available. -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055056==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703211505.KAA13856@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321074858.1391A-100000@freenet.buffalo.edu> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 97 10:05:04 -0500 Subject: Re: Big Hard Drives Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321074858.1391A-100000@freenet.buffalo.edu> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: "Ted J. Myers" <bt912@FreeNet.Buffalo.EDU> Original Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 07:53:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970321074858.1391A-100000@freenet.buffalo.edu> > I'm not familiar with NeXTStep and OpenStep. What kind of programs > are they, operating systems maybe? Well, since you were sending this message to "comp.sys.NEXT.hardware" I assumed you were talking about NeXT computers and/or the NeXTSTEP/OpenStep operating system. Then again I was assuming you knew what group you were posting to. Perhaps you thought it was just a hardware group for PCs? TjL --__==========00000000055016==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703222217.RAA05618@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 22 Mar 97 17:17:42 -0500 Subject: Re: Next or Intel? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Responding To: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Original Date: 21 Mar 1997 23:37:49 GMT Message-ID: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - > Some other questions that spring to mind are: > What kind of RAM is fitted? 72-pin, 70ns > Is it soldered in or socketed? socketed, I believe > Can I still get system software updates for this machine? yes(*) > Is Openstep really as nice as it looks in the Mags? yes Actually, I haven't seen OpenStep, but have seen NeXTStep pretty much every day for the past 5 years and love it dearly. In answer to your question: I would buy this machine and stuff it full of RAM (you should be able to get 128meg in there). I'm getting an Intel personally, but because I'm doing to have to dual-boot eventually. OpenStep will run on this machine, and you can buy OpenStep for Mach 4.1 for it (actually, if you are going to get the dev tools, I'd wait for 4.2 due this summer). Contact <bhi1@ix.netcom.com> when you are ready to upgrade. This machine will be slow for compiles, but for regular use should be fine. Feel free to drop me a line if I can answer any questions TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055104==antigone.sonic.net==__--
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <608858488427@digifix.com> Date: 23 Mar 1997 05:00:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Archives are available by ftp at ftp://ftp.stepwise.com/pub/Next_Announce_Archives Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: "Stacy D. Coil" <coil.1@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: Maxtor XT-8380S woes Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 00:13:46 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <3334BC0A.179F@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: coil.1@osu.edu I have aquired a Maxtor XT-8380S hard drive that was origionally used with a NeXT workstation. I would like to use it with a pc; however, the hard drive only says that it is a 170 meg hard drive when hooked up to any controller other than the NeXT (it is a 340 MB drive). Does anyone have any idea what I can do? I cannot figure out to tell the drive that it is a 340 MB drive. --Stacy coil.1@osu.edu
From: phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PowerPC OpenStep? Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:41:45 GMT Organization: C-Com/Phoenix Data Net (281) 486-8337/ http://www.phoenix.net Message-ID: <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> Mark Bessey (MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM) wrote (in a different thread): : Mark C Mieczkowski writes : > Hi, : > I have a couple newbe questions. The next web site seems to be no help : > on this. I'd like to turn one of my macs into a next cube. I have an : > '040 and a PPC601 : > What version of NextStep/Openstep do I need to get, and where can I get : > it. I should think that I need the Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x : > for Motorola, but I am not sure. : OPENSTEP doesn't run on Macs yet. I understand that a port for the PPC was done - so there is no rumor/hint of releasing that? And NeXT/Open Step never ran on a 68K Mac? : You'll want to wait for Rhapsody, : Apple's next-generation Operating System (coming later this year), which : will run on Power Macintoshes and will be OpenStep compliant. : -- : Mark Bessey : Apple Computer, Inc. : -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the ROMs is my guess. -- Charles D Phillips <mailto:phillips@phoenix.net> Check the Macintosh Logic Board Battery Web page at: <http://www.academ.com/info/macintosh> (This page also links to a Totally Unofficial Panorama Page) "I Don't Do Windows, I Have A Macintosh"
From: paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:58:35 GMT Organization: Internet MCI Message-ID: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> Hi, I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work together? Thanx, -- Paul Haddad
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: wiedner@nxcb01.cern.ch (Wiedner) Subject: Color Monitor for NeXTstation found Message-ID: <E7Lsu6.D79@news.cern.ch> Sender: news@news.cern.ch (USENET News System) Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 14:42:06 GMT Hi everybody, 2 weeks ago I posted a mail asking for help in choosing a color monitor for my (black) Color NeXTstation. Several people asked me to inform them if I found out something. Unfortunately their mails got lost, so I have to contac them this way. It seems that a SONY 17SE2T5 monitor works nice with my NeXTstation. To connect it I use the PigTail adapter, which basically conversts the 13W3 connector of the NeXT to RGB (BNC). So, I'm in business again. Cheers...Ulrich
From: Duane Cutlip <adcgroup@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT owner - help? Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 02:01:15 -0500 Organization: ADC Logistics Group Message-ID: <3334D53B.4985@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just acquired a NeXT color slab with 17" mega pixel monitor, 2.88 FD, and 16 MB. I also got a cube w/8MB. I haven't done anything with the cube because the monitor connection is different. From the parts dates, I guess the slab was manufactured around 1992. My immediate problem is that the slab won't boot up. It hangs on "checking system files". It was probably booted from a network when it was in use. Not having *any* experience with NeXT, I have several questions. 1. How can I get it booted up? Is there a floppy to boot off of (I got no software with it) 2. Will it run recent releases of OpenStep? 3. What are the applications I can use this type of computer for? My experience is PC-based. 4. Would I be able to run software from any of the other platforms? Thanks, Duane mailto:adcgroup@mindspring.com
From: herrmann@math.tamu.edu (joe herrmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: partition of hard disk for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:32:52 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Mar 1997 16:32:52 GMT I have a Compaq Presario 4770 (200 Mhz MMX Intel CPU, 32M of Ram, 3.8G Hard drive, 16X cd rom drive, 33.6 kps modem, and 3 1/2 floppy drive) I would like to partition the hard drive so I can run both Windows 95 and NEXTSTEP 3.3. Most of the software (including Windows 95) I have came preloaded on the hard disk and I have no other copies of this software. 1. Should I borrow a zip drive to back the hard drive up before doing the partition? Could I put it on floppies? 2. How do I do the partition? 3. Does NEXTSTEP 3.3 run well on a Presario? I saw that Compaq's Deskpro is a supported machine from NextAnswers but nothing about the Presario. Can I find drivers to drive the modem, floppy drive, and CD rom from NEXTSTEP? 4. Is there anything I should beware of if I try to do this? Thanks. Joseph M. Herrmann Department of Mathematics, Texas A&M University College Station, Texas 77843-3368 (409) 845-1474 herrmann@math.tamu.edu
From: giammarc@cs.unibo.it (Mario Giammarco) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ET6000 driver, I will do it Date: 25 Mar 1997 18:54:55 GMT Organization: Cineca Message-ID: <5h971v$2td@sirio.cineca.it> I have an ET6000. Because Next does not provide a ET6000 driver I would like to do it my own. The ET6000 has a BIOS VESA 2.0 compliant; so it can enable high resolutions and linear mode. I have seen that the s3 Virge driver uses the virge bios to change resolutions, but I do not know how use the bios in a display driver for nextstep. Can I see the source of VIRGE display driver? If not, somebody knows how to access BIOS? Is anybody making a display driver so I can cooperate with him? HELP! Please reply me to giammarc@cs.unibo.it because I cannot read frequently news. Thank You in advance for your replies! -- Mario Giammarco | Tel/FAX +39-545-22965 Via Calamandrei,5 | giammarc@cs.unibo.it 48022 Lugo (RA) -- ITALY | rac0043@racine.ravenna.it
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 13:59:36 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg47830.thr-676b2c36.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg47830.thr-676b2c36.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>paul@pth.com,UseNet writes:</bold> >I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 >I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? >I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work >together? Bizarre. I just sat down to post a message about these very same cards. I'm afraid I can't answer the above, but I can extend the question. What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we are told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. Any comments? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Date: 25 Mar 1997 19:20:31 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com> References: <E7JMI8.JL6@AWT.NL> In article <E7JMI8.JL6@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects > just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of > course connected to the keyboard. *gnorf* does this mean I can run a Cube headless. if using a SoundBox? I never thought of that... > Speedwise, the ND is great if equipped with enough memory. Also, don't forget > that if you have a ND running at 32bit/pixel, your WindowServer process will > also use a lot more memory (especially in dual-headed setup). I run a ND > system (33MHz) with 64MB on the MB and 48MB on the ND. That is acceptable in > speed. > > The special ND stuff (like NeXTV) is especially great. You have a 14" > television on your desk with a picture that is acceptable to look at (even > from close range). I use a VHS videorecorder as tuner. I second Gerben's remarks; my system is similar to his, wtih 80 MB on the motherboard. I tend to leave a lot of windows open, so I'm looking to boost the ND's memory soon. Later we'll add an SMP PowerMac for Rhapsodic networking :-) -- Steve Weintz * indy@is.com * Graphic Designer, Integrity Solutions, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When confronted with vastly intelligent, aggressive politics, do something totally irrational and let the enemy think himself to death. -- P. Chanur
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PowerPC OpenStep? References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> From: Darren Reely <dreely@cyberstore.ca> Message-ID: <33382d3c.0@scipio.cyberstore.ca> Date: 25 Mar 97 19:53:32 GMT phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net (Charles Phillips) wrote: >BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get >NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no >names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the >ROMs is my guess. The roms would just be a start. There are like MAJOR hardware differences to get in your way. You would need the source code and at least in depth knowledge of the Mac you want to port to. Just wait for Rhapsody for PPC Macs. Don't expect Rhapsody for 68k Macs. Although it is possible to do it, Apple has no announced plans for that older platforum. My only wish is that they get the capabilities of the port right. I'd hate to move backwards. Darren http://www.bcog.org/~dreely
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703230713.CAA01188@kira.peak.org> From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 02:13:08 -0500 Subject: Anyone used Seagate 43400N (3gig/SCSI) ? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__" This is a MIME-encapsulated message If you read this, you may want to switch to a better mailer --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I saw a Seagate 3.0 GIG drive for $299 The model number is "Seagate 43400N" Anyone know anything about this drive? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor --__==========00000000055143==antigone.sonic.net==__--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: PowerPC OpenStep? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7M677.4up@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 19:30:43 GMT References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5h79jo$pdp@news.next.com> <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5h8o79$9pm$1@gryphon.phoenix.net>, Charles Phillips <phillips@alpha1.phoenix.net> wrote: > >I understand that a port for the PPC was done - so there is no rumor/hint >of releasing that? > It wouldn't do much good. It would be version 3.something, and who knows what kind of PPC hardware it ran on. Maybe something PReP-ish, maybe something totally different. Who knows. >And NeXT/Open Step never ran on a 68K Mac? > No. >BTW if anyone wanted to privately drop a few hints as to how to get >NeXT/Open Step to run on a 68k Mac, some of us would be interested. And no >names would EVER have to be used. It must have something to do with the >ROMs is my guess. > This honestly isn't meant as a flame, but it's a lot more than the ROMs. You're grossly underestimating the work it takes to port an OS to another machine of even the same CPU architecture. Even if you have source it's not a super-quick job. Without the source it's very difficult. It's been done a few times; I can think of various ports of the MacOS to hardware such as NeXT black hardware, the Amiga, and PReP machines. But the MacOS is a much simpler beast from a core OS point of view than NeXTSTEP or OPENSTEP/Mach is. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: soft-touch and/or ergo keyboards Date: 23 Mar 1997 15:53:03 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5h3jkv$evo@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: aa6378859a55f060074d7f6aa0e10f7e - <199703180318.WAA08371@kira.peak.org> <e4te5f986.fsf@justine.elastica.com> In-Reply-To: <e4te5f986.fsf@justine.elastica.com> On 03/21/97, Robert Nicholson wrote: > There's nothing basic about the Kinesis keyboard. You should perhaps > ring up a vendor and use their 30 day trial period. Warning. You > have to make a large commitment to use the keyboard though. I almost > gave up and don't regret sticking at it. Honestly though. I don't > know what you do but for my health $200 or the difference in price > b/w a MS Natural or some other keyboard isn't significant. Depends > on whether you're a poor student I guess :-) > > The kinesis will _force_ you to type better you really have no > other choice. > > Like I said. It's an all or nothing thing with the kinesis since > initially you won't feel comfortable on it. > With encouragement from Scott Anguish I also bought a Kinesis (back when they were $400 or so) and don't regret it at all. Highly recommended. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: "Lee Bennett" <lee@lbsoftware.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Black networking 12 sys!!! Date: 25 Mar 1997 22:17:55 GMT Organization: L&B Software Message-ID: <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen> Hi, I have just got 12 system`s and need to network them. Can some tell me the type of cables I need. Many Thanks lee@hyper-zone.com
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HomeNet Date: 25 Mar 1997 23:03:22 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm247-06.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo all. I have just received a new NeXT machine from MTECH (thanks guys) and would like to connect it with my older NeXTstation using the ethernet adapters. What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need some other hardware box to make it work? I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a small one at home using just my two machines. Thanks a lot for any advice. Good luck to all. Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: RE: dual head display Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:07:32 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Message-ID: <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> References: <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> <E7C4Hs.6Mo@onevision.de> hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: >In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> writes: >> Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? >> >> Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is >> capable to display two monitor. >> >> Any one tried to do it? >> >We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. >-- >====================================================================== >Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH >Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 >Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg >No big mails, Please! Germany Could someone (Hans?) please exlpain this to me!? I never heard that the Matrox (Millenium, I guess) has the capability of being used in dual head systems. Neither the matrox handbook nor the respective nextanswers entry give any hints. Did I miss some information? Thanks for helping me out of my confusion. Salut, Thyl
From: me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) Date: 23 Mar 1997 07:13:36 GMT Organization: MUC.DE e.v -- private Internet access Message-ID: <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> References: <3333FCC7.678B@midway.uchicago.edu> Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: >Hi, > >I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided >NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their >ftp site. > >Do the drivers exist? > >thanks, > >Arno Well, I recently phoned ELSA about their interest to participate in a test for NX compatible graphics boards and received the information that ELSA has dropped NEXTSTEP support a bit more than a year ago. Therefore, I don't see why there should be a driver for the Gloria ( I also found nothing like it). Did you try out the Generic S3 driver and the older ELSA drivers for the Winner 2000 Pro/X? If you are not stick to the ELSA for particular reasons, I also do not see any reason for purchasing it, since none of the great 3D functions of the board would under the present imaging scheme of NEXTSTEP, be used. Salut, Thyl
From: smiller@directionsrsch.com (Scott Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Northgate Ultra Keyboards? Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 15:31:21 GMT Organization: EriNet Online 513 436-1700 (Voice) Message-ID: <3337eef0.57303555@100.0.0.3> After searching and searching for someone carrying _any_ Northgate keyboards, I finally found a distributor that had some. However they didn't have an instruction manual on how to program them, and they're different than the older style keyboards that we have instructions for. Does anyone know how to program these keyboards to swap the ctrl and alt key and caps lock key? Does anyone know how to contact anyone that used to work at Northgate that might have a clue? Thanks, Scott smiller@directionsrsch.com
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HomeNet Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:48:48 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-2503972048480001@230.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> > What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with > the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need > some other hardware box to make it work? > > I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a > small one at home using just my two machines. If you go the thin coax route all you need is a thin coax cable with a "T" on each end. Connect the "T" to each NeXT and put a resistor on each open end of the "T". That's all there is too it. If you want to network more than two computers, it gets a little more complex, but basically you just have to remember that the line from the machine to the "T" on the trunk line can't be over about 18" or so. If this doesn't make sense, I can send you a diagram of it. This was a problem I ran into with a Mac netowrk based on Coax. I now have a 10-base-T network. If you decide to go 10-base-T, you will need a hub. Mitch
From: recurve@resourceful.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: "Incomplete disk transfer" followup Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:32:23 GMT Organization: Rosenzweig Investments Message-ID: <E7Mv9z.qD@xombi.wizard.net> Crazy, I popped open the hood of the slab (to see if a ribbon cable was a little loose), put the top back on and then the disk was able to be initialized fine! strange. --- SW Son of Ginger and Harry, Aaron Rosenzweig SW http://www.wam.umd.edu/~recurve/ SW... recurve@resourceful.com SWN?
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 26 Mar 1997 05:04:25 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5haaop$b8n@news3.digex.net> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> <msg47830.thr-676b2c36.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) wrote: > What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We > currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series > 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just > fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we > are told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the > Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a > "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. Here's some info/correspondence I've had about the new ATI 3D RageII cards... They look promising: If you do decide to replace it... Check out this, next just released a beta driver for OPENSTEP 4.1. You can get an 8Mb version for 229 (I checked on price watch) and a TV tuner for it for about 100bux more! All that and 3d support. I don't know about multiple monitors though. Here's the info file on the driver: ____________________________________________________________________ ATI Rage PCI-Bus Display Adapter < < Display Devices This PCI bus device driver automatically detects the target adapter. Supported Hardware: ATI Rage and Rage II based display adapters with 4MB memory This graphics driver is designed to support on-board as well as PCI-Bus display controller subsystems which use the Rage and Rage II Graphics controller chipsets. This driver supports the following 4MB display modes. 8-bit Color 16-bit Color 32-bit color 640x480 640x480 640x480 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 800x600 800x600 800x600 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz 1024x768 1024x768 1024x768 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1152x864 1152x864 1152x864 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1280x1024 1280x1024 60, 70, 75 Hz 60, 70, 75 Hz 1600x1200 1600x1200 60, 72, 75 Hz 60, 72, 75 Hz Note: When using any of the 32-bit color modes, the console window (which appears after you type "console" at the Login Window) may be discolored, usually with the text and borders appearing a light red color. This will not affect normal operation (i.e., when running under the Window Server). Note: If the display appears dim in one of the 32-bit color modes, or if the Brightness slider in the Preferences app does not work in the 16-bit and 32-bit color modes, then the host adapter does not support gamma correction. This behavior is due to the absence of a feature on the adapter itself; no software work around is available. Supported Displays: NeXT designs and tests its display adapter device drivers using very high frequency displays that can support display modes with very high resolutions and non-interlaced refresh rates, such as the NEC 5FG, NEC 6FG, and Nokia Multigraph 445X. Read the owner's guide that comes with your display to ensure it can support the display mode you set in Configure. Warning: Not all Rage or Rage II display adapters support all of the display modes listed above. The driver does not always detect when a mode has been selected which the display adapter does not support. Selecting a display mode which the display adapter does not support may result in an unreadable display at boot time. If this occurs, reboot the machine specifying "config=Default" at the boot prompt. The machine should reboot in Default VGA mode, allowing you to run Configure.app and select a different display mode. Warning: Some vendors claim that you can use their display adapters at display modes with resolutions and refresh rates that exceed what their RAMDACs can support. You can permanently damage your display adapter and computer by doing this. Read the owner's guide that comes with your display adapter or contact its manufacturer to ensure that your adapter's RAMDAC can support the display mode you set in Configure. Warning: If you plan to change display adapters, be sure to use the Configure application to change the display driver to Default VGA Adapter before you remove the old display adapter (see NeXTanswer 1824 for details on changing display adapters). < See also * "Add a Device" in Configure's on-line help. * See NeXTanswer 1824 for general information on installing and configuring device drivers. ____________________________________________________ Here's the Nextanswer overview on it: _____________________________________________________ OPENSTEP for Mach Intel Processors Release 4.x Display Driver Overview Driver: ATI Rage Driver Overview: NeXTanswer # Last Update: March 14, 1997 Availability Information A version of this driver is on the CDROM Newer Released Driver in NeXTanswers*: No, Version 0.00, as NeXTanswer # Newer Beta Driver in NeXTanswers*: Yes, Version 4.00, as NeXTanswer #2200 Driver Name / Installer .pkg: ATIRageDisplayDriver Driver Type: Display Driver Scope: Generic-Chipset Supported Components: ATI Rage, ATI Rage II, ATI Rage II+ PC Bus / Interface Supported by Driver**: Integrated, PCI General Overview notes: This new graphics driver is designed to support a variety of graphics adapters using the ATI Rage and Rage II graphics controller. This driver supports a variety of configurations including high-resolution and high-color (32bit) modes and several frame buffer configurations. Due to the wide range of possible combinations, only a few specific adapters will be tested by NeXT. Although this driver may work with most 88800 GX/CX based adapters, NeXT will only support the specific adapters tested by NeXT. Supported Products / Add-on Adapters: ATI All-In-Wonder ATI 3D Pro Turbo ATI 3D Pro Turbo PC2TV ATI 3D Xpression+ ATI 3D Xpression+ PC2TV Supported Products / Systems (ie integrated into PC System): Special Features of Driver / Driver Notes: This device driver provides information in the Configure application's help panel. Choose Info>Help from the Configure menu and scroll down to find this device driver's help topic. Display Driver Details Supported Connectors: 15-pin High Density (VGA) Access Mode: Linear Framebuffer Adapter Memory: 2MB DRAM, 2MB VRAM, 4MB DRAM, 4MB VRAM Display Modes (Number in () after resolution indicates frame buffer size required) 32 Bit Color Modes**: 1152x900 (4MB+), 640x480 (4MB+), 800x600 (4MB+) 16 Bit Color Modes**: 1024x768 (2MB+), 1152x896 (2MB+), 1280x1024 (4MB+), 640x480 (1MB+), 800x600 (1MB+) 8 Bit Color / Greyscale Modes**: 1024x768 (1MB+), 1152x896 (1MB+), 1280x1024 (2MB+), 1600x1200 (2MB+), 800x600 (1MB+) Known Problems Driver Version Notes Future Planning Future / Update Planning: Reason for New Driver / Update: New Driver New Driver / Update Timeframe: New Driver / Update Description: Note: Information contained in the "Future Planning" section of this document does not constitute a commitment on the part of NeXT to complete the planned development work. * - Any NeXTanswer number that is blank indicates that a driver will not be released for this version of NEXTSTEP. ** - Indicates information that is inclusive of the entire capability of this driver. Not all devices supported by this driver may include all features listed. Check any available NeXTanswers and the hardware manual for the device for additional information. Product Vendor ATI Technology 2880 Zanker Road Suite 203 San Jose, CA 95134 +1 (416) 882 2600 international phone +1 (905) 764 9404 bulletin board system +1 (416) 882 2600 faxback system WWW: „http://www.atitech.ca/ _________________________________________________________________ Here are some of the specs on the expression (it's lower than your card). <„http://www.atitech.ca/graphics/3dxpre/3dxpre.html Here's the pro...It should do everyting the expression does, but faster and better resolutions... <„http://www.atitech.ca/graphics/3dpt/3dpt.html Heck, I'm thinking of upgrading to it! If you want the TV tuner features, it's about 100bux more for the daughter card. It looks neet, and if you like it, ask louis to order it. (It won't work under NeXTSTEP, not now anyway...maybe ssomeone will write a driver for it in the future). Here's the page. <„http://www.atitech.ca/multi/tvtuner.html Anyway, not sure if it supports 1600X1200 at 24bit w/ the 8meg pro version under NS... But that is what I'm ordering for a friend (only a 229 for the 8mb version--do a search on price watch at www.pricewatch.com). Also, I don't know if it does multiple monitors like the #9... It might be too early to say... And the TV tuner likely won't work under NS...but still, looks like a good value. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School You're dangerous because you're honest
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Those nasty MIME headers in some of my recent posts Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 15:28:30 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <0nBN9iG00iWX41Z=kP@andrew.cmu.edu> References: 5c5c8851ad254c4aa169662455ab72aa - <199703222217.RAA05618@kira.peak.org> <AnBL14i00iWXA1Z0dE@andrew.cmu.edu> <199703231957.OAA11840@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: <199703231957.OAA11840@kira.peak.org> Excerpts from mail: 23-Mar-97 Those nasty MIME headers in.. by "Timothy J. Luoma"@peak. > Those headers are not coming from me, but from the mail2news > gateway @antigone.com. > > I have sent the manager of the NeXT lists a message asking why this > is happening, but have not yet heard anything back. Oh. Well, I can't say I'm surprised by Antigone being broken. They bounce anything I send to them because the news/mailer software used with my cs4w+@andrew account (EZMail) uses a date format of: "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:05:35 -0500 (EST)" ...instead of: "Thu, 20 Mar 1997 10:05:35 -0500" While the latter format is correct, their software should (a) have been designed to follow the maxim of "be liberal in what formats you accept and be conservative in what you generate", (b) it should accept what is a completely valid date header plus additional characters at the end enclosed in what's used to delimit a comment in other headers, and (c) they should replace a date header which they decided is invalid by _replacing_ it with a date header their software generates itself instead of bouncing. @Begin(SARCASM) { But I've already argued this before and they didn't get it. I wonder if they won't see any problems with generating MIME headers to Usenet news, either. After all, MIME is a standard too-- and everyone wants Usenet articles to be in MIME format with HTML tags as well, right...? } @End(SARCASM) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: NS 3.3 Driver for 3Com Etherlink XL Date: 23 Mar 1997 21:37:22 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5h47qi$bm3$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> In-Reply-To: <5h0veg$slj@toast.donet.com> On 03/22/97, Zdzislaw H. Lewantowicz wrote: >Help - need NS 3.3 Intel driver for: > 3Com EtherLink XL (3C900-TPO, 3C900-COMBO) - PCI bus > >Does anyone know of one? Pls email to: zlewanto@stan.donet.com > >Thanks, Stan > I have been in touch with the NeXT Tech support group on this. I am an EAP. The story I am getting is that it is being writen wtih NO timeframe till beta release yet. May be if we all keep up a weekly reminder effort we will ge their attention. Send email to Mark Tacchi <mtacchi@next.com> and Marc Driftmeyer <Marc_Driftmeyer@next.com> If you hear of any drivers for this card please let me know and visa versa. Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 68040 cube needs disk space; any recommendations? Date: Mon, 17 Mar 1997 22:02:29 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-1703972202290001@45.detroit-005.mi.dial-access.att.net> References: <5gimqd$bqq@samba.rahul.net> > > I need to expand the diskspace of my 040 cube. > > The cube is running NS 3.0. > > I bought a 2gb quantum VP32170 and tried using > it to replace an ancient 40mb quantum "prodrive". > > My NeXT would not recognize the VP32170. I experimented with > various scsi address settings and scsi bus termination methods. > > Do any of you have a good experience with any 3.5" drives? > I installed a Quantum fireball in my cube a couple of days ago. It's a 1 gig drive and the cube is a Turbo. the drive was already formatted for a Macintosh, so I just hooked it to the SCSI ribbon, plugged it in, made sure it was set to an SCSI ID other than that of the original drive and started the Cube. It booted and mounted and I did a build disk on it and reformatted it for NeXTSTEp. This took quite a long time, but it worked perfectly. It was very easy. Mitch
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice Date: 23 Mar 1997 17:33:07 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5h3pgj$skr$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <57c8f87b22658b21741a5089521209c0> <-> <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> In article <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org>, Timothy J. Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >ps -- it would be really nice if Rhapsody was smart enough not to >wait so long for a drive without a disk in it. The floppy drives >are recognized immediately disk or no, but my CD-ROM and SyQuest >drive both wait for about 10 seconds waiting for a disk when none is >available. If the floppy is connected to the floppy port, the above is true; however, a SCSI floppy will wait just the same. It's just a loop counter that's compiled in the kernel. I've patched my kernel to wait about 5 sec. or so. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7Mn63.5zD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 01:37:15 GMT References: <E7JMI8.JL6@AWT.NL> <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5h98hv$48l@medusa.is.com>, Steve Weintz <indy@is.com> wrote: >In article <E7JMI8.JL6@AWT.NL> G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Gerben Wierda) writes: > >> 1. Sound box. This is more or less a Megapixel without screen. It connects >> just like the megapixel, and the keyboard is connected to it. The mouse is of >> course connected to the keyboard. > >*gnorf* does this mean I can run a Cube headless. if using a SoundBox? I never >thought of that... > Yes, you can! I've done it a few tines. I believe you can even print. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TTYDSP with Open Step Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:37:35 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5h9k3f$91d@slip.net> Hi, Has anyone used TTYDSP with Open Step? Not necessary with a slip connection and/or an ISDN connection, but with a normal modem? Ah, cables from yyrid provides a vt100 terminal emulator and, ah, TTYDSP doesn't work with NXFAX ... Would someone like to suggest a software package to use with TTYDSP? Does anyone know if the public domain slip package will work with TTYDSP under Open Step? Or with 3.3 only? Thanks, Emmett
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 26 Mar 1997 06:28:27 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5hafmb$cji$2@gaea.omnigroup.com> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> paul@pth.com (Paul Haddad) wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 > I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? > > I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work > together? No. Multiple video cards must be matching cards, at least for the moment. -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: David Green <david@legion.apana.org.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on Intel m/boards wanted Date: 23 Mar 1997 10:37:10 GMT Organization: Australian Public Access Network Association Message-ID: <5h314m$r9p$1@hock.apana.org.au> Organisation: Sargood Manor People, I am thinking of upgrading my old 486/66 to a more modern system. Since I wish to do this for the least amount of money possible, I am planning on only swapping the motherboard and video card. I have access to very cheap Intel motherboard with Triton VX chipset. Are there any known "gotchas" with this hardware? Will be using with a Pentium 150 and 64Meg RAM. Also, has anyone used the Tseng ET6000 board? Are there drivers available, or will the ET4000 drivers work?? I look forward to your advice. -- David Green | Tel: +61 3 9827-6283 | david@legion.apana.org.au Melbourne, Australia| Fax: +61 3 9827-5876 | (NeXTMail & MIME accepted) PGP key from: pgp-public-keys@sw.oz.au ----------------------------------------------------------------------- What opinions?
From: "Erik D. Schminke" <edschminke@willmar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Hacking a NeXT Mach System Date: 23 Mar 1997 19:06:05 GMT Organization: MEANS Message-ID: <01bc37bc$a9a0d380$ca3a0ace@schminke.willmar.com> I would like some questions answered by any hackers out there willing to help. My school runs a NeXT Mach system and someone hacked into it using one of the so called "default accounts". Please take a look at what was done. The website is at http://willmar.k12.cfa.org/. I expect that this page will be take down and returned to what it was before, as soon as it is discovered, so I made a copy of the page and put it at http://www.willmar.com/~schminke/willmar/. Please check one of these pages and then explain how to this was do to me via e-mail. My address is edschminke@willmar.com Thank you, -- Erik Schminke (edschminke@willmar.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help w/ Dimesion Upgrade Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E71Lr6.z0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 1997 16:57:06 GMT References: <332655B2.4C2D@earthlink.net> <5g75md$116m@news.doit.wisc.edu> <E6yn3C.J11@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5g98dk$25u0@news.doit.wisc.edu>, <bestor@cs.wisc.edu> wrote: > >> Quick correction. The i860 on the ND "only" does rectangular blits and >>bitmap scaling--the DPS interpretation is still done by the '040. > >I believe the ND is also given the task of doing quick rendering too. > Yes, it does at least part of it, and there's some sort of bug in the ND's qrman code, but I can't recall what it is. Sure wish the i860 could be used for prman. :-) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More ATI mach64 problems Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:48:56 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Message-ID: <5gco58$nh8$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <33210AF8.34E@lamg.com> <5gb76r$8j4$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Cc: Chris Roehrig <croehrig@cs.ubc.ca> wrote: > >NeXT's Mach64 driver (v3.37, 4.01) overview says that only the 88800 GX/CX are >officially supported. The 264* chipsets have integrated RAMDACs on them, but >they should be supported since the driver now uses the ATI BIOS to set the >video mode and the overview claims that this should work with any RAMDAC. My Advantis motherboard uses 264CT onboard video chipset and works with NS 3.3 using the latest Mach64 driver. Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <umax!antigone.sonic.net!ispnet!peak.org!luomat> Message-ID: <199703232006.PAA12054@kira.peak.org> In-Reply-To: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 23 Mar 97 15:06:41 -0500 Subject: Re: N0n-Intel Pentium-like chips for NS3.3/4.1? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary *This message was sent using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* *This message was received using a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) UUCPGate* Responding To: sk68@cornell.edu Original Date: 22 Mar 1997 05:59:14 GMT Message-ID: a983b31c26142c6d42923c76b82a0c8a - > I just wanted to know if AMD chips work well, > if at all, with NeXTSTEP. I believe that people have gotten them to work in general, but either AMD or Cyrix could not work with OmniWeb, which would be a problem for me.... I'm sticking with the Pentium for my new Intel... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Computer humor: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/humor
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: 26 Mar 1997 04:21:55 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.859378673@idiom.com> HI all, I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half long? I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet as touchy as SCSI? -jcr
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: ATI video cards no longer supported ? Date: 14 Mar 1997 23:17:55 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5gcmb3$g8o$1@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> I just spoke to a NeXT tech support rep about problems I'm having with ATI's new Mach64 cards using the 264VT or Rage chipsets. That BIOS revision isn't supported by the current ATI driver, and he does not anticipate that any updates will be forthcoming since the driver engineers have been relocated to the Rhapsody group. Since it looks like the new ATI cards are all using those chipsets, this means that ATI is not an option any more? I'd like to hear otherwise... -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Black networking 12 sys!!! Date: 26 Mar 1997 07:34:47 -0500 Organization: Quick and Associates Message-ID: <5hb557$snr@papoose.quick.com> References: <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen> In article <01bb1a98$f8c17600$857206c2@carmen>, Lee Bennett <lee@lbsoftware.com> wrote: >Hi, > >I have just got 12 system`s and need to network them. Can some tell me the >type of cables I need. You have 2 choices here. The NeXT cube and slab both had two ethernet connectors for 10base-2 and 10base-T. 10base-2 is the BNC coaxial type connecter, 10base-T is for twisted pair ethernet. 10base-2 (also known as thin net) is a bus architecture. Actual cabling cost is higher (per foot), and depending on the physical layout of your computers may or may not be a good choice. The benefit of thin-net is that you will not need to buy hubs. Another benefit is that cable length limitations may enable you to span a longer distance by having one or more thin segments as part of your network. 10Base-T, twisted pair, is a star topology. You will need to purchase one or more hubs to wire up this type of network. If I were you I would choose this type of network to the desktop. As long as you use high quality cabling, you can wire up your systems now with sufficient capacity to support 100-base-T (100 megabit) ethernet speeds later when you upgrade your systems. Though 100base-T hubs are much more expensive than 10baseT hubs, you may find that it makes sense to wire for 100, buy hubs for 10 and then upgrade to 100Mbit hubs later when prices drop further. Many low end twisted pair hubs also have a single BNC connector which would enable a hybrid approach. For instance I have an inexpensive hub with 1 BNC and 8 TP connectors. Most of my network is TP but I do have a leg of thin-net hosts connected to the hub as well. Please post a description of the physical layout of your building. The most cost effective solution to your problem may very well depend on both the topology and distances involved. Network layout is really not all that complicated, but finding the optimum layout requires more information than you have given. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Quick & Associates NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Apple, we know the song's not written yet, ) | but could you at least hum a few more bars?
From: crusader@airmail.net (Mark Janszen Ringo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Really short ethernet cables Date: 26 Mar 1997 22:14:43 GMT Organization: Pier 1 Imports Message-ID: <crusader-2603971613300001@10.3.100.6> Don't sweat it. Ethernet is EXTREMELY forgiving. No comparison between it and SCSI. You can manufacture cables to any specification, all that you need is a crimper. Regards, Mark Ringo In article , wrote: > HI all, > > I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them > in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between > any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. > > Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four > inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half > long? > > I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I > switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet > as touchy as SCSI? > > -jcr
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: EZ-Flyer as a backup on a NeXTCube? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:41:37 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-2603971841370001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> To replace a dead optical drive on my NeXTCube (68040, 16mb, 400mb,3.2), I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Would the formatting instructions be the same as with a Zip drive? Thanks, Bill Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199703161811.NAA03525@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sun, 16 Mar 97 13:11:44 -0500 Subject: Re: zip drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: db0cf8892fef1f23104ba26bf2d7922e - Responding To: jimh@pantheon.yale.edu (J. Hormuzdiar) Original Date: 13 Mar 1997 22:26:16 GMT > Has anyone here had luck in connecting a Iomega Zip drive to an > Intel based Nextstep machine? I am trying to do this right now, but > haven't had luck. Just plugging the drive into the scsi port didn't > work (Nextstep didn't recognize it was there). did you checkout the "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP" @ http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NOTE: If you are having problems uploading to PEAK, tell me Today's Pet-Peeve: .sig files should not be longer than 4 lines.
From: bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.system Subject: Re: help! optical drive doesn't mount Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 18:36:07 -0500 Organization: McGill Message-ID: <bill-2603971836070001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> References: <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca> In article <bill-1803971902070001@b52-32.das.mcgill.ca>, bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca (Bill Anderson) wrote: > The hard disk on my NeXT Cube crashed today, the third time since I got > the machine in 1991. My cd-rom copy of NeXTStep 3.1 (or 3.0, I don't > remember) being lost, I initialized my drive and installed NeXTStep 3.2. I > have the browser up and running again, but when I tried to restore files > (e.g, network config files, etc) from an optical disk, I found that it > would not mount. > > Is it possible that NS 3.2 does not support the optical disk drive, that I > wiped out support when I initialized the disk? Does anyone have any advice > on how to mount the OD? > > Please respond on this newsgroup, since I suddenly have no e-mail due to > the crash. > > Thanks, > > Bill Anderson The optical drive has been cleaned and checked out by an expert, but still does not mount. So it looks as if it is dead. I would like to thank everyone for their responses. Also, I have a new question: To replace the optical drive, I'm planning to get a Syquest EZ-Flyer removable cartridge drive. I've seen comments on this newsgroup that there is no problem using a Zip Drive. I prefer the EZ-Flyer because I have a friend with an EZ-135, and we can swap disks. My question is: Does anyone know for sure (say from personal experience) that the EZ-Flyer will work with my NeXTCube? Thanks, Bill Anderson
From: jason@brubeck.bifrostworks.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA Gloria-L (NS drivers?) Date: 27 Mar 1997 03:09:35 GMT Organization: The Black Box, Houston, Tx (713) 480-2686 Message-ID: <5hcodf$t4t@news.blkbox.com> References: <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> Arno Bosse <abosse@midway.uchicago.edu> wrote: +>Hi, +> +>I remember reading in an online review (New Media?) that ELSA provided +>NS drivers for the Gloria line. However, I didn't find anything on their +>ftp site. +> +>Do the drivers exist? Elsa does not have NS drivers for the Gloria boards. In article <5h2l70$gri@guide.muc.de> me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) writes: +I recently phoned ELSA... and received the information that ELSA has +dropped NEXTSTEP support a bit more than a year ago. Elsa has added people recently, and the new folks there (at least in the USA) don't seem to know what's there and what's not. :-( At least for now, the Winner 2000 Pro/X is available and runs fine single- or multi-screen on 3.3 and 4.x. Jason -- jason@bifrostworks.com (NeXTMail encouraged!)
From: aiz@iag.net (Guru) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cheap Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 02:34:45 GMT Organization: Internet Access Group, Orlando, Florida Message-ID: <333b2e0c.8231332@news.iag.net> For good stuff, go to this web site: http://www.computechusa.com I've been happy with them so far.
From: ptwareck@the-wire.com (Piotr Twarecki) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toray PD on Black? Date: 28 Mar 1997 02:56:37 GMT Organization: -the-Wire- in Toronto, Canada Message-ID: <5hfc15$865$1@news.the-wire.com> ReplyTo: ptwareck@the-wire.com Has anyone tried this drive (or the Panasonic equivalent) on Black hardware? I'm especially interested in finding out whether both the CD and the Optical modes of operation work. BTW: my optical is just beginning to give up it's ghost, and this seems like an excellent alternative. Thank you! -- Piotr Twarecki <ptwareck@the-wire.com> (NeXTMail and MIME welcome)
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: 28 Mar 1997 03:45:05 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. Where is the FAQ to do that (I've looked on both peak and leo site but couldn't find the specific information). Do I need to create an entry in the /etc/disktab before doing sdform, then BuildDisk ? Help, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
From: "Jim Powers" <rancor@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP support SMP??? Date: 28 Mar 1997 04:25:03 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth> Does OPENSTEP support SMP under Intel? If so what chipsets are supported? Jim Powers
From: darkon@nospam-netins.net (Tehrasha Darkon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Identify Empty Socket on MB Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 01:35:58 -0600 Organization: Darkon Industries Message-ID: <darkon-ya02408000R2803970135580001@news.netins.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anyone know what this mysterious empty socket on my 030 Cube motherboard is? Was it ever used for anything? NuBUS socket ------------------ -||||||||||||||||||----------------------------------- | [ ] | | ooooooooooo --------- [ ] | | ooooooooooo | | [ ] | | oo oo | CPU | [ ] | | oo ??? oo | 68030 | [ RAM Sockets ] | | oo oo | | [ ] | | ooooooooooo --------- [ ] | | ooooooooooo [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [ ] | | [___________________] | | | |--------------------- RF SHIELD ----------------------| | | | [BATTERY] | | ------------- | | - - | | - VRAM - | | ------------- | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | """""""--| |--""""""---"""""""""""---[]--[]--"""""--- Video | | Prntr SCSI s1 s2 DSP -- Ether Any info will be helpful. Thanx. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- darkon@netins.net | FurryMUCK | Furtoonia | Tehrasha Darkon -------------------------------------------------------------------- "For viewers at home, the answer is coming up on your screens. Those of you who wish to play it the hard way, stand upside down with your head in a bucket of pirrahna fish." -- Monty Python All unsolicited commercial Email cheerfully forwarded to postmasters.
From: Leon Heller <leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,alt.windows,alt.windows95,biz.comp.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrading my system: HELP!!! Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:34:49 +0000 Organization: Home Distribution: world Message-ID: <rcduBOAJ75OzEwwo@lfheller.demon.co.uk> References: <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <01bc396a$8bbf06c0$LocalHost@iris.cybercomm.nl>, Ron Dijkstra <ron@cybercomm.nl> writes >Hi there all, > >here's my system > >486 dx/2 66 mhz. (AMD) >420 doubled Hd-drive >16 Mb memory. >OS: Win95 [unwanted crap deleted] > >I hope there are some people who can give me some advice. See the Posting Guidelines, you twerp! -- Leon Heller Amateur radio callsign: G1HSM Email: leon@lfheller.demon.co.uk http://www.lfheller.demon.co.uk Tel: +44 (0) 118 947 1424 (home) +44 (0) 1344 385556 (work)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) Subject: Re: RE: dual head display Message-ID: <E7pp4L.C8I@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 17:12:21 GMT In article <5h2krk$gri@guide.muc.de> me@thyls.muc.de (Thyl Engelhardt) writes: > hans@onevision.de (Hans Stoeger) wrote: > >In article <332E5907.6620@hk.gin.net> ktchan <ktchan@hk.gin.net> writes: > >> Does any one have any chance test a Matrox dual head display? > >> > >> Only the Elsa have the power, the NeXTanswer mentioned the Matrox is > >> capable to display two monitor. > >> > >> Any one tried to do it? > >> > >We have two dual headed systems running using the Matrox. No problem. > >-- > >====================================================================== > >Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH > >Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 > >Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg > >No big mails, Please! Germany > > Could someone (Hans?) please exlpain this to me!? I never heard that the > Matrox (Millenium, I guess) has the capability of being used in dual head > systems. Neither the matrox handbook nor the respective nextanswers entry > give any hints. Did I miss some information? > Thanks for helping me out of my confusion. > Yes, I can. first I am not one of the lucky guys with two Monitors, my desk is already to small... On the Matrox cards exactly ONE cards must have VGA compatibility turned on all other cards HAVE TO TURN OFF VGA. Install the VGA compatible Matrox card and install the first instance of the MATROX driver No add the additional cards and additional driver instances... There is more detailed information in the MAtrox driver itself. Install the driver and ask for Help in configure. Hope it helps Hans ====================================================================== Hans Stoeger OneVision Vertriebs-GmbH Support Zeiss-Strasse 9 Email: hans@onevision.de D-93053 Regensburg No big mails, Please! Germany
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium Pro Motherboard and OpenStep Message-ID: <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 28 Mar 97 07:38:54 MST Distribution: world Cc: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu I was wondering if anyboby had any experience with specific motherborads and OpenStep? I would like to make sure that any motherboard I might buy will run OpenStep. I am currently looking at the SuperMicro P6DNE with only one CPU installed. This motherboard has 8 72 pins slots and uses the FX440 Natroma chip set. How does this motherboard compare to others like the Intel offering, and th TYAN motherboards? Would it be a problem to have a 2 processor motherboard with only one installed? Another option would be to get the SuperMicro P6SNS which has support for only 1 pentium pro BUT comes with a built in Adaptec 2940UW controller. IS this controller supported (I know that the stand alone one is supposed to be, but is the built in one exactly the same??). I would appreciate any information and tips. Thanks!! Nor -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Identify Empty Socket on MB Date: 28 Mar 1997 10:57:58 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <5hgpq6$58m@megamouth.cs.indiana.edu> References: <darkon-ya02408000R2803970135580001@news.netins.net> In article <darkon-ya02408000R2803970135580001@news.netins.net>, Tehrasha Darkon <darkon@nospam-netins.net> wrote: >Anyone know what this mysterious empty socket on my >030 Cube motherboard is? The PGA socket in the corner by the bus connector is for a NuBus Interface Chip (NBIC). The NBIC was only needed if you installed other cards in the cube, such as a NextDimension upgrade.
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: partition of hard disk for NEXTSTEP 3.3 and Windows 95 Date: 28 Mar 1997 16:23:00 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc3b94$4bdb67c0$42ca92cf@default> References: <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu> joe herrmann <herrmann@math.tamu.edu> wrote in article <5h8unk$6gp@news.tamu.edu>... > 1. Should I borrow a zip drive to back the hard drive up before doing the > partition? This would be wise. > Could I put it on floppies? Not unless you have a lot of time on your hands. :) Not a practical solution. > 2. How do I do the partition? I heartily recommend PowerQuest's PartitionMagic. It's very fast, and you will likely lose no data. When I used it, I created a 1GB partition for NS on my 2GB drive, and left it unformatted. This is contrary to the PartitionMagic manual, but Windows will not recognize the NS partition anyway. The NS installer will, and that's all that matters. -- **************************************************** Chris Jensen chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HomeNet Date: 26 Mar 1997 16:26:53 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5hbiod$mam@tribune.usask.ca> References: <5h9ljq$rvi$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <mitchell.allen-2503972048480001@230.detroit-004.mi.dial-access.att.net> mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: >> What do I need to connect these two stations? Just the proper coax cable with >> the right connectors? Or do I need to make a loop between them. Or do I need >> some other hardware box to make it work? >> >> I know how to deal with the net at school, but have no idea how to create a >> small one at home using just my two machines. > >If you go the thin coax route all you need is a thin coax cable with a "T" >on each end. Connect the "T" to each NeXT and put a resistor on each open >end of the "T". That's all there is too it. If you want to network more >than two computers, it gets a little more complex, but basically you just >have to remember that the line from the machine to the "T" on the trunk >line can't be over about 18" or so. > GACK! NO! A 10Base2 (thinwire coax) Ethernet should not have *any* `stubs' between the T and the device. The BNC T's should be attached directly to the transceiver or network card. A single segment can be up to 185 meters long and have 60 `discontinuities'. Each BNC T counts as 2 discontinuities so you can have a maximum of 30 nodes on a segment. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SoundBlaster AWE 64 or AWE 32 and NSFIP (PLEASE READ) Date: 28 Mar 1997 16:30:48 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc3b95$62e25fe0$42ca92cf@default> References: <3338EEF4.2DA4@erols.com> I tried the NS SB16 driver, both versions, on my Intel system, which has a SB AWE 32 PnP card. Neither driver worked for me. I, too, would be interested in tips to make this card work with NS FIP 3.3. > Does anyone know if either the Creative Labs SoundBlaster AWE 32 or > the SoundBlaster AWE 64 will work under NSFIP?? Has anyone done > this??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7nt1r.10G@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 16:41:51 GMT References: <jcr.859378673@idiom.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <jcr.859378673@idiom.com>, John C. Randolph <jcr@idiom.com> wrote: >HI all, > >Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four >inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half >long? > I doubt it will work (it's not supposed to); I think somewhere around one foot is the minimum length. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Really short ethernet cables Message-ID: <E7r23D.1J4@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <crusader-2603971613300001@10.3.100.6> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 10:50:01 GMT In article <crusader-2603971613300001@10.3.100.6> crusader@airmail.net (Mark Janszen Ringo) writes: > Don't sweat it. Ethernet is EXTREMELY forgiving. No comparison between > it and SCSI. You can manufacture cables to any specification, all that > you need is a crimper. > Not quite so! Although Ethernet is quite robust and degradation is graceful (to some extent), there are some misconfigs that can cost you effective bandwidth to a considerable extent. Unfortunately, nobody in this thread specified the type of physical layer they were referring to, but let's give a few hints on the determining factors. Ethernet is a shared media using CSMA/CD relying on collision detection as means of multiple access arbitration. For 10base5 and 10base2 physical media this means that exceeding maximum as well as minimum distances/ extensions will hamper the reliability of collision detection. Undetected/misdetected collisions result in errors in higher protocols (link layer, network layer), thus wasting bandwidth for retransmissions and CPU cycles since these layers almost always rely on software. For 10base5 the maximum span is 1,500 feet for up to 100 taps (multiple access units have a maximal fan out of 8, thus allowing up to 800 nodes) and the minimum distance is 8 feet (but who cares about yellow cable these days :-). 10base2 has a maximum span of 600 feet for a maximum of 30 nodes and a minimum distance of two feet. 10baseT has no minimum distance and the allowable lenght of a drop cable depends mainly on the attinuation maxing out at 300 feet for class 5 cabling. > > HI all, > > > > I'm about to re-cable my four NeXT machines, and I've just put them > > in two stacks, right next to each other. The maximum distance between > > any two of their ethernet ports is a foot and a half. > > > > Does anyone know if they'll balk if the ethernet cables are only four > > inches long (to go between two that are stacked) or a foot and a half > > long? > > > > I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I > > switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet > > as touchy as SCSI? > > > > -jcr > -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help! DSP-56 Message-ID: <E7qz79.1HJ@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <3339D4D1.9@ms13.hinet.net> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:47:32 GMT In article <3339D4D1.9@ms13.hinet.net> Lee Younggab <ds1dat@ms13.hinet.net> writes: > Hi, I have some trouble about NeXT sound system!! > Recently I used a SB32PnP.. but was not satisfied to me. > So I wanna buy a RCN's DSP-56...but there is no reseller nor > distributor in this country...TAIWAN.. > How & Where I can get this one? > They take orders by E-mail if you have a credit card. And postal services to Taiwan shoud work... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: power supply of laser printer broken Message-ID: <E7qzEo.1I7@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:52:00 GMT In article <5h6bkr$s0r@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) writes: Hello, > The power supply of my Next laser printer is damaged. I'd need some > documentation about it. Is there something available on it? > There are hidden fuses inside the power supply. Go and browse the Usenet archive and FAQ on Peanuts for detailed instructions. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 11:51:38 -0600 From: tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) Subject: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Organization: University of Southern California One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my own ideas of why. Any help with figuring this out would be appreciated! The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and was running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new Quantun Fireball 2.1 gig. I bought this from Optimal Object with OS 4.1 Academic preinstalled. Since then, the machine has been hanging. It hangs at odd times, apparently for no reason at all. It can happen during booting, when I move the mouse, insert a floppy, quit an app, or just look at it the wrong way. At first, it would hang every 30 minutes or so. I have disconnected all my external SCSI devices, I have changed the hard drive's address, I have reconnected and reconnected all the cables... I have no more ideas, and the problem hasn't gone away, although it happens less frequently now ("only" about twice a night). I can't get the nmi mini-monitor; the only things that work are a nasty hard reboot or just pulling the plug. Is OPENSTEP this unstable? (I have a hard time believing anything could be this bad -- even my Win95 box is more reliable than this.) Could it be the Fireball? I haven't heard anything bad about them. (Optimal has not replied to my e-mail asking for help, which is why I am posting here.) Could it be the battery? The Hale-Bopp comet? I am really at a loss. Thanks in advance, Tom ---------- Thomas McCarthy tmccarth@usc.edu (No NeXTmail right now, please) (213) 740-5692 -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 09:03:25 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970328085905.26744A-100000@kira> References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Paulus Adisoemarta <paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu> In-Reply-To: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> I don't think there is an FAQ on this. All I know is that you use sdformat, and when I tried it (on a drive that I knew it would work because it had been 1024 before) I could not get it to work. (I could get it to format but then I couldn't get NS to install) Not all drives can use 1024, and Intel hardware cannot boot off of a drive with 1024, as far as I remember. TjL ps -- if you do get it to work I'd love to hear the steps you used and the exact flags for sdformat, because I couldn't come up with any other combinations and none of them worked for me... maybe it was something simple that I was just missing
From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: Fri, 28 Mar 97 18:10:17 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hh164$jd3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> In article <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu>, paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) wrote: > >I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, >and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. > >Where is the FAQ to do that (I've looked on both peak and leo site >but couldn't find the specific information). > >Do I need to create an entry in the /etc/disktab before doing >sdform, then BuildDisk ? > Unless changed since NS 3.2, sdform will only do 512 byte formats. What you want to look for in the ftp archives is sdformat, which will format to 1024 byte blocks (assuming your drive will do so, not every one will). Regards, Jeff trail@ix.netcom.com
From: wongj@alumni.rpi.edu (Jasper Y. Wong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium and #9 Imagine 128 series 2 in same computer Date: 25 Mar 1997 14:57:37 -0500 Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY Message-ID: <5h9anh$1mq6@alumni.rpi.edu> References: <5h8p6r$o65$1@news.internetmci.com> <msg47830.thr-676b2c36.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> In article <msg47830.thr-676b2c36.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: ><bold>paul@pth.com,UseNet writes:</bold> > >>I was wondering if anyone has tried putting both a Matrox Millenium and #9 > >>I128 Series 2 in the same box running NEXTSTEP 3.3? > > >>I know both of these cards have multi screen support, but will they work > >>together? > > >Bizarre. I just sat down to post a message about these very same cards. I'm afraid I can't answer the above, but I can extend the question. > > >What is the general concensus regarding the differences? We currently run a few OS 4.1 boxes with the #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 (using the beta 3.3 driver from the next ftp site--works just fine). We're about to place an order for 15 new machines but we are >told the #9 is backordered 4 to 6 weeks. Dell suggested the Matrox Millenium instead. We're a little reluctant to place a "bulk" order for cards we have no experience with. > > >Any comments? > > > >-- > >David Herren -------------------------------------------------- > > Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ > > General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu > > NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu > Millenium works just fine, I highly recommend it. A major improvement from what I used to use (Diamond 3240XL). Jasper -- --< NeXT >--| Table Tennis | \ / | Volleyball |--< BeBox >-- | Gergely / TSP X / RITC 802 \ / Tachikara SC-5W / Mizuno | | wongj@rpi.edu, jwong@bccn.org \ / IRC: mizzle @ #unix, #next | --< Homepage forever under .... \/ .... construction >NeXTMail>--
From: ferengi@legend.txdirect.net (Conceptual Mindworks Inc.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Network Connections Date: 28 Mar 1997 20:16:24 GMT Organization: Internet Direct, Inc. Message-ID: <5hh8uo$7ob$1@eclipse.txdirect.net> Hello All, I was reading one of the threads above and I have a question. Does the NeXT 10-BaseT port support 100Mb? Thanks, Dan
From: chk@deimos.frii.com (Christian Kuhtz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Network Connections Date: 28 Mar 97 20:25:28 GMT Organization: Front Range Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <chk.859580728@deimos.frii.com> References: <5hh8uo$7ob$1@eclipse.txdirect.net> ferengi@legend.txdirect.net (Conceptual Mindworks Inc.) writes: >Hello All, >I was reading one of the threads above and I have a question. Does the NeXT >10-BaseT port support 100Mb? What's that supposed to mean? 100Mbps Fast Ethernet is called 100baseT or 100baseTX (for copper) and 100baseFL or 100baseFX (for fiber). So, unless something's labeled 100base assume it is 10base. And no, it's not available for black hardware (aside from being pointless, considering bandwidth within the machine) in any other form. I don't see a reason for it to not be available on other hardware. Support requirements for 100base are neglible. Regards, Chris -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (home) Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/ "Humbly speaking for myself only."
From: birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: 28 Mar 1997 20:49:10 GMT Organization: The Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link, Sausalito, CA Message-ID: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. Is there ANY way to fix this drive and get it to power up? Perhaps replace its motor or something? I need the data on the disk, and I know the disk itself is fine, as is the data. It just doesn't spin up. It used to be that when I would turn the machine on, it would take 5 min for the Quantum to spin up, and but once it did, NEXTSTEP could boot. Since I only rarely (and I mean, like every 4 or 5 months) powered down the machine, it wasn't a problem. Well, now the drive appears to be dead. I need to figure out how to revive it. Any suggestions would be welcome! please email brian@birdrock.com [note to spammers: do NOT use this email address for your spam. I am not interested. period.]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up In-Reply-To: birdrock@well.com's message of 28 Mar 1997 20:49:10 GMT Message-ID: <ukvohc3afeq.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 21:13:33 GMT birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) said: > > > I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. > Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard > disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. Sounds like sticktion to me. FWIW, I seem to remember that those "Warranty void if seal broken" seals cover motor spindles. Old drives (esp. Quantums) seem to have motors that just die over time. Giving them a helping hand on initial power-up to get the spin going seems to work. I've also seen powdered graphite applied, and it seemed to work, but I don't know that I'd advocate that approach. -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: thedrjay@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used NEC 17+ or Samsung SyncMaster 6NE? Date: 15 Mar 1997 02:15:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970315021501.VAA11129@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <199703041731.MAA02533@kira.peak.org> If you go with the Samsung monitor you should get the 17Gls. I am happy with the one I use and the cost is only a little higher than the 17NE. It also has better controls than the 17NE, which is Samsung's lowest priced 17" monitor. The 17Glsi are the best 17" monitor made by Samsung but unfortunately its price is a lot higher than the 17NE or 17Glsi.
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz or Zip mounting to IntelNeXT box? Date: 28 Mar 1997 14:28:46 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5hhd6e$9ck$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5he51e$gb2@gateway.wiltel.com> In comp.sys.next.hardware Mike Zemina <*mikez@NOSPAM.msn.com*> wrote: : Are there drivers to allow a SCSI Jaz or Zip to be mounted to an intel NS box? Mounting a jaz drive formatted with FAT, VFAT, or HFS works as normal. Formatting a jaz drive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep is problematic and requires the jaz drive package from NeXT. ................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Opinions on Micron for NS/Intel? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:20:26 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5hhg7a$kvb$2@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Hi, Anyone have any experiences they would to share running NS/Intel on Micron machines? Any info is appreciated, Thanks, -Chuck
From: Chuck_Esterbrook@orcacomputer.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone use 3COM EtherLink III 3C905 with NS/Intel? Date: 28 Mar 1997 22:19:35 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Message-ID: <5hhg5n$kvb$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Hi, My company is looking at buying a computer with a 3COM EtherLink III 3C905 for use with OPENSTEP 4.1 for Intel. Has anyone used this specific card? According to NeXTanswers the EtherLink III is supported, but the specific cards they mention (such as 3C509 and 3C579) do not include the 3C905. Any tips are appreciated, Thanks, -Chuck
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ-Flyer as a backup on a NeXTCube? Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 19:11:31 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970326184257.22579A-100000@kira> References: <bill-2603971841370001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Bill Anderson <bill@markov.math.mcgill.ca> In-Reply-To: <bill-2603971841370001@e-14.das.mcgill.ca> [I removed .misc from the followup, as there should not be xposts to it, and this really is a hardware question.] The EZ-flyer and earlier EZ135 will both work w/o problem as long as you have the SCSI version (vs the parallel port version) all you need is a SCSI-1 port. TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ News: (Unconfirmed) Reports that Rhapsody will be based on BSD 4.4, meaning no more 2gig limit, see http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/mailserver/rhapsody-bsd
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB NeXT mouse with a Mac Date: 27 Mar 1997 01:43:28 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.859455671@idiom.com> References: <01bc274a$28698b40$202f7481@shaft.dorm.utexas.edu> <333931FC.1CE6@aye.net> Not only that, but a NeXT ADB keyboard works just fine plugged into my PowerBook 6300. Makes it *much* more comfortable to use, and the power key even works! The brightness and volume keys don't seem to get recognized, but I guess you can't have everything. -jcr john@aye.net writes: >Yes it is possible to use a NEXT mouse with your mac. I have a friend >who is using one with a NEXT keyboard on his Quadra 950.
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: FAQ on 1024-byte/sec Formatting ? Date: 29 Mar 1997 04:10:36 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hi4ns$sn1$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> <5hh164$jd3@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Cc: >In article <5hfes1$gn6$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu>, paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) wrote: > > > >I have a SCSI disk from a PC that I want to install on a slab, > >and I want to make it with 1024 byte/sector formatted. > > Thanks for the help, I got so many helpful helps. Harddisk: Toshiba MK538FB (1.2 GB) NeXTstep: 3.3 on black (mono station) What I did: - download the sdformat version 1.3 from ftp.peak.org (/pub/next/apps/disk/sdformat.1.3.MIHS.tar.gz ) - attach the SCSI disk with SCSI ID#2 (the default ID for sdformat, so I don't have to type the ID explicitly). - use sdformat with the following command: sdformat -v -b1024 -f ( -v for verbose), -b for block size, and -f for format) The program will then run for several minutes. - initialize and run BuildDisk Thank you guys (I should've ask earlier, instead spending a night browsing all FAQs and found that there is none on this subject :( Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:21:23 -0600 From: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Subject: [HELP] Replaced motherboard on slab, now won't boot Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service To: alanlb@vt.edu Configuration: 25MHz non-ADB NeXTstation with 20MB RAM (30-pin), 1.05GB Quantum hard disk (circa 1992), running NEXTSTEP 3.2. CD-ROM is original NEXT equipment. I swapped out the motherboard with a Turbo board bought from Deepspace Tech; the latter was outfitted with 2 x 16MB 60ns EDO SIMMs. Now, when I attempt to boot from the monitor with the "b sd" command, I get Exception #4 (0x10) at pc 0x4380000 sp 0x9fff1ce All the hardware checked out fine according to the standard diagnostics. All 32MB of RAM were properly detected and identified. I tried to booting from CD-ROM (3.2 User CD) and the boot floppy that comes with it, and got the same results with both. Any ideas, anyone? thanks, alan -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 00:58:26 -0600 Subject: cmsg cancel <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Message-ID: <cancel.859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Sender: alanlb@alanlb.beva.blacksburg.va.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Control: cancel <859615872.12006@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Original Subject: [HELP] Replaced motherboard on slab, now won't boot Comments: Cancelled by author.
From: hponeill@indigo.ie (Paul O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Slab Startup Date: 27 Mar 1997 15:22:13 GMT Organization: Paul O'Neill Designs Message-ID: <hponeill-2703971523360001@ts11-10.dublin.indigo.ie> I have just acquired a number of NeXT turbo color workstations which surplus to requirements at a local college. Unfortunately they used to be networked, so when I turn them on it sits there waiting to connect to the ethernet (the server was a cube which I don't have). The word is that each of the machines have a full copy of the system software on on the internal hard disk. The manual says press Ctrl-Alt-Tilde to run a monitor program but this doesn't seem to work. Any suggestions? Thanks, Paul. -- Paul O'Neill Designs Electronic & Software Product Development email : hponeill@indigo.ie web : http://indigo.ie/~hponeill
From: Michael Taylor <mtaylor@aw.sgi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: Thu, 27 Mar 1997 11:23:53 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Message-ID: <333A9F19.41C6@aw.sgi.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 processors are > selling for what looks like only $40 more than P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for $40 it > seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price diff or > was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether the diff between > P120 and P133 is significant? It's definately worth the extra money. You're not just getting a few extra Mhz on your processor, you will also get a faster bus speed which will make your whole system (cards,memory,etc.) run faster. 120Mhz = 60Mhz bus speed (120 = 2 x 60) 133Mhz = 66Mhz bus speed (133 = 2 x 66) Also, there's a good chance that you could safely overclock the 120 up to 133 just by flipping a jumper. There are a couple of motherboards coming out now that support 75Mhz bus speeds. Bus speed can be a very big performance factor. For more info, see Tom's Hardware Performance Page at: http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/ /\/\ike -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: 29 Mar 1997 03:52:03 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.859636142@idiom.com> References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> birdrock@well.com (Brian Dear) writes: >I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. >Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard >disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. I had the same problem, and discovered from the OEM data sheets on the particulare Quantum drive I was using, that there is a jumper which tells the drive to "always spin up" without waiting for a device-attention or spin-up message fro the SCSI controller. Try closing various jumper sets, and see what happens. If you're luucky, there will be a diagram of the jumpers on a sticker on the drive. -jcr
From: dave@turbocat.de (David Wetzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI timeouts (Re: New NeXT CD-ROM user seeks advice) Date: 29 Mar 1997 15:27:34 GMT Organization: Turbocat's Development Message-ID: <5hjcd6$2br@alice.turbocat.de> References: <199703220541.AAA13319@kira.peak.org> <5h79qu$pg8@news.next.com> MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) wrote: (...) >"It made sense at the time". No, really! Some of the older cubes here have >hard drives that take even longer than that to spin up and be ready for >reading - they timeout the first time the system is turned on. >-- >Mark Bessey >Apple Computer, Inc. >-->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<-- Once, I had NetBSD on by PC (to intstall it on another disk for a computer that does not have a floppy and tape). The system checked the CD-Rom for about a second. And told me: No Disk in drive or something similar. That should be possible for NeXT also. Look at the NetBSD source code! It's free. -- _ _ _(_)(_)_ David Wetzel, Turbocat's Development, (_) __ (_) Buchhorster Strasse, D-16567 Muehlenbeck/Berlin, FRG, _/ \_ Fax +49 33056 82152 eMail dave@turbocat.de (______) http://harvey.aball.de/dave DEVELOPMENT * CONSULTING * ADMINISTRATION
From: bisk@4dcomm.com (Stephen D. Biskis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro Motherboard and OpenStep Date: 29 Mar 1997 19:19:22 GMT Organization: 4D Global Internet Services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5hjpvq$9td@news.4dcomm.com> References: <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> Cc: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu In <1997Mar28.073854.26419@roper.uwyo.edu> norbert pirzkal wrote: > > I was wondering if anyboby had any experience with specific motherborads and > OpenStep? > I would like to make sure that any motherboard I might buy will run OpenStep. > I am currently looking at the SuperMicro P6DNE with only one CPU installed. > This motherboard has 8 72 pins slots and uses the FX440 Natroma chip set. > How does this motherboard compare to others like the Intel offering, and th > TYAN motherboards? > Would it be a problem to have a 2 processor motherboard with only one > installed? > > Another option would be to get the SuperMicro P6SNS which has support for > only 1 pentium pro BUT comes with a built in Adaptec 2940UW controller. IS > this controller supported (I know that the stand alone one is supposed to be, > but is the built in one exactly the same??). > > I would appreciate any information and tips. > > Thanks!! > Nor > > > I've built one NS3.3 Pentium Pro box using a TYAN Titan-Pro M/B: S1662 440FX PCI-ISA V1.1 System board. I've had constant lock-ups due, I think, to video. If I run BackSpace this system will definitely lock-up within 2-12 hours. Otherwise it runs for days until the system hangs. But it will eventually hang. System specs: TYAN Titan-Pro PP200 128MB EDO RAM ELSA Winner 2000/Pro Western Digital 1.2GB HD SoundBlasterPro-16 Hitachi 7X IDE CD-ROM I've tried all iterations in the BIOS setup but whatever I do to make the system more robust seems to slow it down, sometimes to the point where a neighboring P133 literally blows its doors off !!! I've updated the BIOS from 2.2 to 3.03 - NO DIFFERENCE. I love the TYAN Pentium M/B's but probably won't be buying anymore of their PRO variety for NS. On a more positive note, I've also deployed the following system: PP200 64MB EDO RAM Matrox Millenium 4MB VRAM Western Digital 1.2GB HD SoundBlasterPro-16 Toshiba 4X IDE CD-ROM This is with a NO-NAME clone M/B: SQ600 Pentium Pro w/AMI BIOS I really tend to like AWARD better than AMI too but this board SCREAMS and NEVER gives me any grief !!! da bisk
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with upgrading modem using 'sx' xmodem commands Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 14:14:05 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970329140926.21780A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This is offtopic, but it is also my only place to turn. I am trying to use a 'flash' upgrade to allow my modem to become a 33.6 rather than a 28.8. However, to do this I need to use XMODEM transfer, and so far my attempts have failed. I have the 'sx' command, and the 'sb' command on my system (not sure which I should use, or how) I need to 'send' my modem these two files: Upgd1201.sb7 sup1201.sb7 with these qualifications: 8N1 (8 bit, No parity, 1 stop bit) "Ensure that hardware flow control (RTS/CTS) or None is set in your software (NOT x-on/x-off)." (that is from the "README") I am supposed to issue a 'at**' command to prepare the modem. If anyone can help, I'd appreciate it. Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> New Submissions Coordinator for PEAK (ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/put/next) META-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Message-ID: <E7t2AI.1sD@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:49:30 GMT In article <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> tmccarth@usc.edu (Thomas McCarthy) writes: > One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my > own ideas of why. Any help with figuring this out would be > appreciated! > > The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and > was running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new > Quantun Fireball 2.1 gig. I bought this from Optimal Object with > OS 4.1 Academic preinstalled. Since then, the machine has been > hanging. It hangs at odd times, apparently for no reason at all. > It can happen during booting, when I move the mouse, insert a > floppy, quit an app, or just look at it the wrong way. > > At first, it would hang every 30 minutes or so. I have disconnected > all my external SCSI devices, I have changed the hard drive's > address, I have reconnected and reconnected all the cables... I > have no more ideas, and the problem hasn't gone away, although > it happens less frequently now ("only" about twice a night). I > can't get the nmi mini-monitor; the only things that work are a > nasty hard reboot or just pulling the plug. > Although I haven't seen this on a hard disk, my old sony CD/ROM drive shows the same behaviour when I use some troubled CDs (like my old NS 3.0 disk). Seems that the generic SCSI driver has some uniteruptible kernel sections that can get stuck. On a hard disk I'd geuss this could happen when the drive is still left in factory configuration (i.e. SCSI-II, synchronous). SCSI-II features like disconnect/reconnect are not properly supported by the driver software. Some drives need to explicitly disable these features or get stuck in some operations. This applies to black hardware only, of course! -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199703291127.MAA13270@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 97 12:27:13 +0100 Subject: Which fast serial card ? Ciao... I'm thinking to move to ISDN and I need a fast serial card... Could someone tell me is the ZyXEL 2s1p card works under NSFIP v3.3 ? Which serial card can I try ? Thanks. --- _____________________________________________________________ Mirko Viviani E-Mail: mirko@procom.it (NeXTmail, MIME, ASCII) Via Colletta 4 WWW: http://www_local.procom.it:8080/~mirko I-26100 Cremona Tel: +39 372 39740 Italy Fax: +39 372 36302 _____________________________________________________________
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3027859093225@digifix.com> Date: 30 Mar 1997 05:00:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <7486859698032@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Jeff Hallgren <jhall@abaton.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! Quantum HD won't power up Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 11:46:00 -0500 Organization: I make stacks of papers, then throw them away. Message-ID: <333D4748.314A@abaton.com> References: <5hhas6$i0d$1@was.hooked.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Brian Dear <birdrock@well.com> Brian Dear wrote: > > I have a Canon object.station 41 machine with a Quantum 1.2 GB HD. > Recently I shut down the machine and when I brought it back up, the hard > disk would not spin up, and so therefore the machine cannot boot NEXTSTEP. > The object station(s) I used awhile back became increasingly hard to boot. At one point I was wrapping the drive in a heating pad (!!) It works, apparently loosening up the gunk inside that prevents it from spinning up. Shortly after that the ethernet went out... Don't put any money into repairing a Canon object.station 41. -- Jeff Hallgren jhallgre@abaton.com
From: root@guzzibill.cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My slab hangs constantly -- why? Date: 30 Mar 1997 04:58:28 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <5hkrtk$298k@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Cc: tmccarth@usc.edu In <859570557.16344@dejanews.com> Thomas McCarthy wrote: > One of my slabs hangs constantly, and I have exhausted all my own ideas of > why. Any help with figuring this out would be appreciated! > > The problem is with a Color station. It has 32 megs of RAM, and was > running just fine until I replaced the hard drive with a new Quantun > Fireball 2.1 gig. Tom..I've just bought & installed (as the primary boot drive) a Quantum Fireball 2.1 Gig from APS technologies. Right out of the box I installed NS3.3 on it and my Turbo Colour 32-mags just fired up as if it had always been there. (QUIET TOO!) No probs so far (3rd day). -- Bill Scollard Scollard Holdings Ltd. Calgary, Canada ** Computer Systems : cradle-to-grave **
From: skeezics@linda.teleport.com (Skeezics Boondoggle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openstep Academic Bundle release 4.x for Motorola? Date: 30 Mar 1997 03:38:28 -0800 Organization: Teleport - Portland's Public Access (503) 220-1016 Message-ID: <5hljbk$p98$1@linda.teleport.com> References: <5h6pdp$db0@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> <5hacj2$rto$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In <5hacj2$rto$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> decoy_id@stop_junk_on_the.net (Lee Altenberg) writes: >Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP on Motorola works only on NeXT hardware. You might >send a note to the Rhapsody development team about how wonderful it would be if >it were ported to work on Mac and NeXT 68040 hardware. >-- yes!! all the tools work on m68k now. and nextstep already has nubus support; aside from the 25mhz clock, isn't "nextbus" to nubus specs? i swear i read an article a long, long time ago where a "reliable source" (possibly even one with @next.com in their address ;-) mentioned that a next engineer had managed to boot up nextstep on a quadra 700 "just for fun." of course, without details of the swim chip things like audio and floppy access weren't working, but that kind of info shouldn't be so hard to come by these days, what with the merger and all. it sure would be nifty if rhapsody would support '040-based macs. at worst they'd be about the same speed as the original black hardware, but unlike our beloved orphans, mac owners have quite a selection of upgrade options. ppc and faster '040 upgrades for older macs are still quite prevalent in the mac mail order rags these days. call it enlightened self interest, call it a pipe dream, but there has to be a *sizeable* number of '040 macs out there - certainly many times more than original black boxes - and if somehow we could convince apple/next to support them, it'd mean keeping the black hardware updates coming just a little longer too. :-) one can dream, no? -- skeez -- skeezics@teleport.com it's a pretty safe bet that my opinions have little bearing on reality, especially teleport's version of it.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 60 vs 70 ns SIMMS Date: 30 Mar 1997 23:27:28 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5hmst0$a7j$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5gsq42$mp3@agate.berkeley.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320203803.11106E-100000@kira> <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <5guct7$c4t$1@hpax.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article <Pine.SUN.3.96.970320203803.11106E-100000@kira>, > >I believe that NeXT hardware cannot tell if your SIMMs are faster than > >70ns. > > The turbo hardware does know, because I have 60ns SIMMs > and the monitor says so at powerup. > > My ADB ND Turbo says 60ns also. Mike care to shed some light on this one. If the ROM reports 60ns (vs. 100 which I think I've seen in a Non ADB Turbo slab with these same 60ns simms) will it use them in 70ns mode or 100ns mode. Randy rencsok at channelu dot com OR at argus dot cem dot msu dot edu -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) Note: My reply to header is invalid because parsing spammers are abusing any use of dead@eatthis.spammers.channelu.com type labels in public posts. First it was the easy Reply-To: fields we all know & love. Now it's text itself. I'd love to see a parser that can discern the intended meaning of the word at and the name rencsok (etc) and equate it to channelu dot com to reconstruct my address.. :} But then a parser still has a lot of header fields to play with :(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Anyone using Kinesis keyboard on Black Hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7vwCv.4Bp@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:34:07 GMT References: <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net>, Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> wrote: >Folks, > >I've just ordered a Kinesis keyboard that can switch between PC/MAC-ADB >and QWERTY/Dvorak modes. I've heard that MAC ADB keyboards work on >black hardware, so I'd like to know how well the Kinesis simulates an ADB >NeXT keyboard. Will the "Power" and "Command" work as a NeXT keyboard? >How about "Comman-Alternate-~"? > I don't know about the details, but I seem to recall that Scott Anguish has one of these (sanguish@digifix.com). He raves and raves about them. >He said he's open for user input, and would be willing to produce a >black version if there's enough interest. > Did he say how much "enough interest" is? >Oh, I've also put myself down for a used black Kinesis if he can't sell >them all in-house after Hollywood is done with them. :) > Yeah, right. Good luck with that one. ;) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OPENSTEP support SMP??? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E7vwrs.Ms6@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 01:43:04 GMT References: <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bc3b2f$a53e8190$d87e0e26@godsearth>, Jim Powers <rancor@mindspring.com> wrote: >Does OPENSTEP support SMP under Intel? If so what chipsets are supported? > OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1 does *not* support SMP. OS/NT does, by transitivity, if you will. Who knows about 4.2.... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: 31 Mar 1997 03:40:52 GMT Organization: The Litterbox Message-ID: <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> References: <jcr.859378673@idiom.com> NNTP-Posting-User: hamors -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- John C. Randolph (jcr@idiom.com) wrote: : I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I : switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet : as touchy as SCSI? In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT (coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major dropped packets. /\_/\ http://www.litterbox.org/~hamors/pgp.txt To err is human. ( o.o ) for PGP public key block To purr feline. > ^ < Sean B. Hamor <hamors@litterbox.org> - Robert Byrne The Litterbox: http://www.litterbox.org/ Homeless and Abused Pet Rescue -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv Comment: Even the litter is encrypted... iQEVAwUBMz8yVDU6HlxZIJ+FAQEYRgf/cAhhVTLL/g8z9pufnLHdUvF06gmeV6GK J+4QNpDKc13ahO6SjpxxYu0vB8KN3245kHE/8PRUeHTEYsAYu9L3kyM8iesLOzIm cnOvDD1LyR0YqNsAH3Gbsx+IRCDJcpimce9C/qo/Cr0eJvaiES2EzhMv/re7G46z DWgl+Qz1mrJU/h+Pq5FrY7MEtKvb7UZWWKO2xXzJf7eGWgZnwq8Zx15NPpSH2Q6e 0dBfo27Epk1Rro/9w5SjTebAY+e76Qei8yXopzLdBKW/CcX7xpemTkPXTxDaGB+8 1Sc4hWh/IkAVv81gjHQ8FUfcJ2NZgWy+1DmhDESBMamhlj63++ohvQ== =n2+V -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Jason <iggyfar@leland.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! Centris Boots then Static Sounds Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 19:30:40 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <333F2FDF.3BE4@leland.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello. I have a Macintosh Centris 610 technical problem. Here's a rundown of my system configuration and problem: Configuration -Mac Centris 610, 8 MB, 80MB HD, CD-ROM 300i+, flaky power supply? Problem - System boots and sometimes reaches startup stage. Sometimes static from the speaker cuts in after the startup sound and it doesn't boot. The ROM tests okay, but after turning it on a few times I all hear is static and no startup sound. Is it my power supply that's sending an irregular current? I noticed that after turning the computer on and off a few times the static cuts in before the nice soothing, but normal, startup tune. Perhaps after turning the computer on a few times the power supply gets "used up"? Help!!! Thanks. Jason
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: simple q: re external cases for internal drives Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 21:35:01 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970330213227.12817A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This may be obviously possible or impossible, but: right now I have an "internal" SCSI CD-ROM that is in a case which makes it "external" (ribbon cable & power supply, as well as a little thing that lets me set the # (scsi id?) If I had a half-height hard drive that was supposed to be "internal", is there any chance I could put it in this case and make it external?" Just a thought TjL
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Anyone using Kinesis keyboard on Black Hardware? Date: 31 Mar 1997 07:26:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5hnouc$mpe$1@news.digifix.com> References: <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net> <E7vwCv.4Bp@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <E7vwCv.4Bp@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 03/30/97, David Evans wrote: >In article <5heqli$qss@library.airnews.net>, >Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> wrote: >>Folks, >> >>I've just ordered a Kinesis keyboard that can switch between PC/MAC-ADB >>and QWERTY/Dvorak modes. I've heard that MAC ADB keyboards work on >>black hardware, so I'd like to know how well the Kinesis simulates an ADB >>NeXT keyboard. Will the "Power" and "Command" work as a NeXT keyboard? >>How about "Comman-Alternate-~"? >> > > I don't know about the details, but I seem to recall that Scott Anguish has >one of these (sanguish@digifix.com). He raves and raves about them. > Hey, they're great. About six months after starting Stepwise (which is 3 years old this week BTW) my wrists were toast. The kinesis basically got me working again. You can map the keys on some models of the kinesis (at least it appears that its only on some, its hard to tell from their current model line), the older keyboard (which I have) had a box that had the ADB adaptor on it, so I don't know what the integrated box does to handle it. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: P120 vs P133 Date: 29 Mar 97 00:14:48 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar29001448@slave.one.net> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org> In-reply-to: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM's message of Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:56:00 GMT In article <1997Mar25.205600.792@gamelan.shnet.org>, thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.NOSPAM (Thomas Funke) writes: In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970324110719.11661C-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > I've been looking through Comp Shopper and seen that P133 > processors are selling for what looks like only $40 more than > P120. > > I was planning on going with a P120 with my new Intel, but for > $40 it seems worthwhile to upgrade. > > Can anyone comment on whether this is right (such a small price > diff or was I delusional after 8000 different ads) and whether > the diff between P120 and P133 is significant? As far I know, the P120 is considerably more slow because of some design flaw, so you want to get a P133 ! P120 will be using a 60Mhz memory bus and 30Mhz PCI bus. P133 will be using 66Mhz and 33Mhz. 10% on each. This essentially means that P133 comes close to being 10% faster than P120. P150 goes back to the 60/30 timings, which is why P150 is not 12% faster than P133 like the CPU speed indicates. [Actuall P150 is more like 2% faster, or slower if you're heavily dependent on video speed and the like.] Keep in mind that for the most part P120's are older technology, and there are two types of P133 - the older ones from the P90/100/120/133 phase, and the newer ones from the P133/150/166/180/200 phase. No idea how you tell the difference before buying. I think the newer ones say iPP on the back. [My P133 does, and have the 2.5x and 3x clock multipliers disabled. Just a little _too_ new for me :-).] Probably a more important consideration is whether you're getting an HX or Triton I motherboard. HX is sometimes called Triton II, and VX is sometimes called Triton III. I'm not going to argue VX and HX (_I_ got HX). In any case, the HX is faster than the Triton I in various ways, given the exact same CPU and RAM. The Triton I is cheaper, because it's getting long in the tooth. Besides being faster, the HX will allow you to upgrade through 200Mhz, and if you get the right board you can also do MMX. Perhaps not important now, but if P200 MMX goes for <$200 next year, you'll be glad to have the option to upgrade (rather than pop for an entire new system). Keep in mind that you'll tend to see cheap CPUs bundled with cheap motherboards. So a P120 with a Triton I, versus a P166 with a VX or HX (or now TX - don't get TX, they only cache 64M, _ever_). So you might see bundles where it seems like the price differential is a bit high, but there might be a good reason. Might not, though. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DOSFileSysPatch--any alternative for NS3.1? Date: 29 Mar 97 00:17:34 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Mar29001734@slave.one.net> References: <19970327140000.JAA09147@ladder01.news.aol.com> In-reply-to: willadams@aol.com's message of 27 Mar 1997 14:00:21 GMT In article <19970327140000.JAA09147@ladder01.news.aol.com>, willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) writes: I'm running NS 3.1 on my NeXTCube--is there any way that I can access PC formatted Zip Disks in it directly? Looking at NeXT's web pages I see that they have a patch for NS 3.2 which addresses this--would there be any possibility this would work for 3.1? Assuming that it doesn't, is there any sort of alternative or work-around--would SoftPC allow me to put files onto such a ZipDisk? Or, if Iomega ever comes out with the promised 25MB Zip disks, would they work (since they're smaller than the DOS 32MB FAT size which seems to be the difficulty)? You _might_ try the mtools package, I think there's source on prep.ai.mit.edu. It's generally used to handle floppies, but I seem to recall using it on my Syquest EZFlyer once. [Sorry, don't ask me how to compile it unless you plan to send me treats of some sort. I just played with it and deleted it a couple months ago, I have no current memory of whether it was a tough port or anything.] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Dept., University of Florida Bldg 104 Rm. 5 ---------------------------------------------------------
From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 14:07:11 -0600 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Message-ID: <geordie-ya02408000R3103971407110001@kyrie> References: <jcr.859378673@idiom.com> <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net>, hamors@litterbox.org (Sean B. Hamor) wrote: :-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- : :John C. Randolph (jcr@idiom.com) wrote: : :: I've had SCSI bus problems in the past that went away when I :: switched to cables that were all over one foot long. Is ethernet :: as touchy as SCSI? : :In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT :(coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest :possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If :you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your :network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly :terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major :dropped packets. You should only ground one end of the cable. If you ground both ends you will end up with a current going between the two ends since the grounds are almost always at slightly different potentials. -- Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * *********************************************************************
From: onparole@halfwayhouse.com (convict) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Display Driver under NS Intel Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 23:09:29 GMT Organization: poor Message-ID: <3341427f.3968581@news.alt.net> References: <5hol21$27g@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 31 Mar 1997 15:25:53 GMT, ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) wrote: >I am installing NS 3.3 on a Pentium system. The video card I have is >a WinFast PCI card which has a Trio64v+ chip. During the install I >have no problems with video, although it is grayscale. I need to >select a video driver and do not see the trio 64 as a choice. Is it >safe to chooses standard vga? This seems to result in a blank screen. > >Dan >-- Look in NeXTanswers, document #2382 and #2384. These are generic S3 drivers which support the Trio64v+ chip for 3.3. Surprisingly, the driver also works for NS3.2 on PCI bus. Hope this points you in the right direction. Bon chance.
From: john@romdas.HIP.berkeley.edu (John Badanes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Micropolis 4421 Fast SCSI-2 in NeXT turbo? Date: 31 Mar 1997 23:20:42 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5hpgsa$s8q@agate.berkeley.edu> Anyone have any experience with a Micropolis 4421 (Aries 2) Fast SCSI 2.1MB hard drive in a NeXT Turbo? It's a 3.5" "low profile" disk drive, spins at 5400, ~9ns seek, 5MB/s max transfer asynchronous, etc. Is this going to be a 'plug and play' thing or is it going to be a fussy and troublesome ordeal? I'm especially concerned with its implementation of SCSI-1 in the Turbo. Any experience or thoughts ASAP would be appreciated by e-mail if possible. I'm thinking of ordering on April Fool's Day and don't want to be 'the fool.' Thanks. John
From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: really *short* ethernet cables. Date: Mon, 31 Mar 1997 18:52:07 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <mitchell.allen-3103971852080001@221.chicago-035.il.dial-access.att.net> References: <jcr.859378673@idiom.com> <5hnbo4$2df$1@news.ptd.net> <geordie-ya02408000R3103971407110001@kyrie> > : > :In this case it's just the opposite. I'm assuming you're using 10BaseT > :(coax) to network your machines. 10BaseT works the best with the shortest > :possible lengths of cable and with each cable EXACTLY the same length. If > :you use all 5" lengths of cable that are exactly the same length, your > :network will be extremely fast and efficiant. Remember to properly > :terminate and ground each end of your 10Base2 network, or you'll get major > :dropped packets. > I think you misspoke. 10-base-T is twisted pair and 10-base-2 is thin coax.
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