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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: hplj 4L Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970131195838.18294A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:59:08 GMT Is it possible to print a dvi file to an HP LaserJet 4L (no postscript support) under OpenStep 4.1 for Intel? jon Jonathan B. Leffert <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:54:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> On 29 Jan 1997, Jon Haveman wrote: > "Jack" <jgroll@xpoint.at> writes > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > > Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now just > what this MMX thing is..... A Wintel ploy to relieve you of more disposable income to gain "multimedia enhancements" of highly questionable worth. Or, more technically, a new bunch of DSP-ish matrix operations included on new MMX Pentiums and PPros. -Isaac
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Newbie Help Date: 1 Feb 1997 04:02:15 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5cuf87$rjq@news.next.com> References: <01bc0faf$a12ff760$23cdb7c7@byrnejbb> "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> writes > I'm going to attempt adding a SCSI drive to my 'new' NeXT Station. I > understand that I can accomplish this by: > > 1) Obtaining a SCSI to SCSI ribbon cable and a power connector and > installing the extra drive inside the slab case. What about termination > in this situation? Don't do this. There's no room inside the slab for two drives, and there's no mounting hardware, either. > 2) Attaching the drive external but I need a special SCSI II connector > on the cable. Where can I get such a cable? It's a standard cable. Any computer store ought to have one. > After I attach the drive, which is being removed from a Mac, how do I > format it? From the Workspace Manager. That sounds too easy but here's > hoping. Select the disk's icon, then Disk->Initialize from Workspace's menu. It just doesn't get any easier. > I also have available a Zip Drive and a CD-ROM, also from a Mac. I > understand that all I need to do is add these to the SCSI chain and they > will 'just work'. Regarding the Zip--the media is Mac formatted. Do I > simply reformat via the workspace manager. Yep. Just like a hard drive. Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 08:36:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5cuv9t$eat@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> In article <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> writes: >As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes >when initializing a 230Mb disk. > >Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, >would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can >make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info >(I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > John, I've been using the following for the past few months: # # Specify higher nc and lower ns if you want more inodes # # ss = media block size # media cap = nc * nt * ns * ss # fa (fragmentation) = s/b >= ss # sa = (partition size or media cap) / ss # # # Fujitsu 640mb 3.5" MO SCSI M2513A-2048 # # M2513A-640|M2513A-2048|M2513A-640-2048|FUJITSU M2513A-640-2048:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#808:nt#2:ns#192:ss#2048:rm#3600:\ :fp#80:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#16:z1#48:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#310272:ba#8192:fa#2048:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: # # Fujitsu 230mb 3.5" MO SCSI M2513A-512 # # M2513A-230|M2513A-512|FUJITSU M2513A 1000 -512|FUJITSU M2513A 1000-512:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#348:nt#2:ns#320:ss#512:rm#3600:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=mach_kernel:z0#64:z1#192:ro=a:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#5:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: >Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The >DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO >deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible >to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity >disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... >-- >Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... snip I was not able to get this to work and so I wrote the following quick hack: //***************************************************************************** // // newfs cover -- newfsCover.c // // When placed at /usr/etc/newfs this program will cover for and // subsequently call newfs.org (the system supplied original). // This is just a quick hack to allow Workspace manager to properly // initialize a Fujitsu M2513A 3.5" 640mb MO drive. The system // supplied newfs miscalculates its values with this drive. // // This hack was necessary because I was unable to get BuildDisk // or the Workspace initializer to take my disktab otherwise. // // Using: // // 1. cc newfsCover.c -o newfs // 2. mv /usr/etc/newfs /usr/etc/newfs.org // 3. copy this newfs cover to /usr/etc/newfs. // 4. Append the M2513A disktab entries to your /etc/disktab // // Bugs: // // The M2513A is capable of using a variety of media, this program // should be extended to support these by looking at the label info // written down by disk. Currently, this program only supports two // media types: 640-2048 and 230-512 which must be defined in disktab. // // When using different block size media the driver can get confused, // it may be possible to reset it using this thing. // // It might be better if this program covered for disk instead of newfs // // This code is hereby placed into the public domain. Use at your own risk. // // Felipe A. Rodriguez 9/23/96 far@ix.netcom.com // //***************************************************************************** #import <sys/param.h> #import <signal.h> #import <bsd/dev/disk.h> #import <bsd/dev/scsireg.h> #import <libc.h> #import <stdlib.h> #import <sys/file.h> #import <sys/disktab.h> main(int argc, char *argv[]) { int fd; static struct drive_info di; char Path[MAXPATHLEN + 1]; strncpy(Path, *argv++, MAXPATHLEN); strncat(Path, ".org ", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); while(*argv) { if(**argv == '/') { fd = open(*argv, O_RDWR, 0); ioctl(fd, DKIOCINFO, &di); // get info about device printf("drive type name -- %s\n", di.di_name); close(fd); } strncat(Path, *argv++, MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); strncat(Path, " ", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); } // if an M2513A and disktab not already specified on commLine if(strstr(di.di_name, "M2513A") && (!strstr(Path, "M2513A"))) { printf("Fujitsu M2513A drive, media block size of %d\n", di.di_devblklen); if(di.di_devblklen == 512) strncat(Path, "M2513A-230", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); else strncat(Path, "M2513A-640", MAXPATHLEN - strlen(Path)); } printf("%s", Path); printf("%s", "\n"); system(Path); // call the real newfs exit(0); } -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: Nick Poolos <poolos.1@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 03:52:50 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot inside of a 1991 era slab? I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting it back up. It came stripped of drives and mem. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu
From: nickle@smart.net (Mike Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 1 Feb 1997 03:41:12 GMT Organization: Smartnet Message-ID: <5cue0o$461$1@news.smart.net> References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> <AF14EF94-9FDA9@207.147.51.243> <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In comp.sys.next.hardware Rudolf B. Blazek <rudy> wrote: : Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? : Rudy. Only if the system has a non-ADB monitor and keyboard. That's how my monoturbo is set up. I don't like the adb keyboard. -- _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? nickle@smart.net (NeXTmail ok)||(But who will guard the guards themselves) http://www.smart.net/~nickle || Satires, VI, line 347 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: expansion slots! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4w9uC.C5M@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:44:36 GMT References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com>, Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> wrote: >I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. NeXTstations don't have any slots. >Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. Cubes have NeXTbus slots, which are a sort-of mutant NuBus. >My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these >machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network >card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. No need. All NeXT black hardware comes with Ethernet built in. '030 cubes can only do 10 Base-2, while all '040 machines can handle 10 Base-2 or 10 Base-T. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 05:59:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes when initializing a 230Mb disk. Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... Also, with removable devices that read multiple capacities... The DynaMO reads and writes 128, and 230Mb disks...and the new DynaMO deals with 128, 230, 540, and 640Mb capacities... Is it possible to make a disktab that will deal properly with the correct capacity disk? If not this might be something that needs to be extended... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:47:21 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970201104701.FAA10668@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, Rudy. The 21" monitor was alway made by Hitachi with a Toshiba shadowmask picture tube (CRT). Most (large) Trinitron CRT's have the 2 lines across it's face. These are to support all the vertical wires in the CRT, otherwise it would be very easy for them to vibrate (just tap on the side of a trinitron monitor when it's on) and cause havoc with the display. Some people prefer the Trinitron look because's it's brighter but the finepitch shadowmask CRTs can suffer from moire pattern and a lack of brightness which seem to bother alot of people. When I was at NeXT, there was alot of complains about the Fimi monitor which NeXT solve by going to Sony for it's final 17" color monitor. I was at NeXT hardware service from start to finish so I still remember some of this stuff. Jquan 8-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:34:20 GMT Message-ID: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > Sorry for the previous empty post :-))) After reading all the comments about the Trinitron monitors I wonder: Why do people prefer it over the FIMI? We bought a monitor for an Intel based machine and I was about to return the monitor we got because I hated the two lines in the first and third quarter of the height of the screen. I thought the monitor was defective and I still cannot believe that the lines are a FEATURE of the monitor! Also, I can see all the fine rows of pixels (it is 21" monitor) on the screen. They are physical lines, not caused by the resolution I use. And the sucker flickers like hell (while looking at the screen only using the peripheral vision of the eyes. Yes, we got a good video card, that shouldn't be the reason. On the other hand, I am happy with all our NeXT monitors by FIMI (21 and 17"). You don't see any pixels, any physical lines and the picture is extremely stable. It looks more like a photograph than a computer screen. The only question would be the radiation, I guess. But the picture is superb. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:27:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970130162522.26357A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Charles Bennett wrote: > I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. > (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) > > I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 > and was wondering if it would work. I'm not sure about NEXTSTEP on a Cyrix chip. As I hear, it will boot and run, but some programs (notably OmniWeb) will simply crash the machine dead in its tracks. Much as I normally root for Intel's competitors, I hesitate to recommend using anything but an Intel chip for NEXTSTEP. -Isaac
From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 1 Feb 1997 15:16:24 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Message-ID: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello,all, I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? And what is the speed of NeXTBus? Thanks in advance. -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: german gobel <cmptrvil@bridge.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:37:59 +0000 Organization: none Message-ID: <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> References: <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > (David Evans) writes: > > And if someone tries > > to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen > > politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about > > 60ms or so, apparently). > > And of course, bear in mind that (for some reason :-)) it was never a > shipping product. > > Really carefully crafted code using the NXLiveVideoView can grab maybe > 4-5 frames per second. > > For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without > resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean > transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good > disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over > time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high > quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. > > Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV > disk. > -- > I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. > mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK > mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK Could you maybe suggest a specific laserdisk model that would do this? thanks german gobel
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 1 Feb 1997 18:15:49 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> wrote: > I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a > NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have > something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own > brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. This isn't strictly true. Some NeXTstations use 72-pin SIMMs. All 25 MHz. NeXTcubes use "industry-standard" 30-pin SIMMs. Memory specifically designed for NeXT machines isn't required and I've never heard of any. Low-profile SIMMs are needed in Cubes for physical clearance reasons. The memory speed must be no slower than 100 ns, but faster speeds don't increase system performance. I have purchased several lots of low-profile, 30-pin, 4x8 SIMMs from the Chip Merchant (http://www.thechipmerchant.com). > Mac memors is not truly industry standard so I don't know about that. Not sure what's meant by this statement. The memory used by Cubes is the same as that used by some Macs. > You can get some good info on ram for a nest by visiting RMP's homepage. > I think tht it is RMP.com (you know the rest). If this page states that all NeXTs use 72-pin SIMMs, then the info isn't good. > > Chris Stuart wrote: > > > > I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain > > Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? > > > > Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to > > install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? > > > > Thanks very much. > > -- > > **************************** > > Chris Stuart > > Systems Administrator > > University of California, San Diego > > Center for Research in Computing and the Arts > > cstuart@ucsd.edu > > (619) 534-4383 > > **************************** -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: Scott A Douglass <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: LaserWriter II NTX Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 13:03:47 -0500 Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable - The printer is known to be fully functional - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional I'm particularly suspicious of the DIP switch setting on the NTX... Scott Douglass _____________________________________________________________________ Department of Psychology, Carnegie Mellon University Office: (412) 268-1414, E-mail: sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu (NeXTMail OK) PGP Public Key: finger email address
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 1 Feb 1997 19:49:44 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design >a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these >information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? 1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. 2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 1243.00. > And what is the speed of NeXTBus? Thanks in advance. Speed : 12.5 MHz, burst at 25 MHz (NuBus is 10 MHz). Peak data transfer rate at 100 Mbytes/second (NuBus is 40 MB/s). Techno : NextBus is CMOS, NuBus is TTL. NeXT "offers" a single-chip NextBus Interface Chip (NBIC) a 144-pin CMOS device to do all the dirty jobs. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: partitioning a 4gb scsi drive Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 05:22:24 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970130011459.26525A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out following web-site: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1533.htmld/1533.html YoungHoon Kil (Computer Graphics Freelancer) ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Disktab. Need good one for Fujitsu DynaMO Date: 1 Feb 1997 10:57:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5cv7i0$3mu@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> Cc: jkheit@cnj.digex.net In <5cum44$p5u@news4.digex.net> John Kheit wrote: > As most DynaMO owners know, nextstep doesn't create enough inodes > when initializing a 230Mb disk. > > Does anyone have a WELL tuned disktab for this device? If you do, > would you let me know if you're willing to send it to me. I can > make up my own disktab, but scsimodes doesn't return all the info > (I think it's improper info!?!). I need to make a proper one... > Here is one that someone handed to me: FUJITSU M2512A 1314|FUJITSU M2512A 1314Vˆ|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V|FUJITSU M2512A 1314V:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#80:nt#2:ns#1394:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a:rw=b:\ :pa#0:sa#223002:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#2:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:aa:ta=4.3BSD: Now, you'll notice all those attempts at the name. I never could get NEXTSTEP 3.3/Intel to automatically recognize the disk. Also, I had hideous problems with SCSI ioctrl errors when I tried using a non-default disktab entry. They would appear erratically and caused `media errors' to appear on my hard disks. I thought they were due to the disktab entry, but discovered finally that it was because I needed to disable synchronous negotiation to the MO on my Adaptec 2940 card. I haven't had the problem recur since then. So in summary, this disktab might work just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce,edm.forsale,eug.forsale,eunet.misc,fido.ger.hardware,fido.ger.musik,fido.wa_4sale,fido7.game,fj.announce,fj.fleamarket.misc,fj.forsale,fj.forsale.comp,fj.forsale.books,fj.net.misc,fl.general,fl.forsale Subject: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sat, 01 Feb 1997 13:46:46 -0800 Organization: West Coast Online's News Server - Not responsible for content Message-ID: <32F3B9C6.3826@tidepool.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* | | * * | Looking for some great CD's, | * videos, books, computer software and more * | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | * Check us out! * | | * * | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
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From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: 1 Feb 1997 14:30:51 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> Cc: poolos.1@osu.edu In <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> Nick Poolos wrote: > What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot inside of a > 1991 era slab? > > I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting it back > up. It came stripped of drives and mem. > > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't recall the rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: "Houman" <jmsbond@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS3.3 PC CD-ROM Installation Problems Date: 1 Feb 1997 23:49:48 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc109b$03abd760$2c02b8cd@houmanja> Hi all, I've just upgraded my crusty 'ol 486 to a nice new sleek Pentium. The only problem is that I can't load NeXT STEP 3.3 Academic on my wonderful machine. I'm using the exact same CD-ROM drive, a Sanyo 4X CRD-254SH. But I've replaced the Adaptec 1542B SCSI adapter with an Adaptec 2940 PCI adapter. It is not an ultra-wide model. When I try to load NS, it properly detects all of my SCSI devices, but the CD-ROM fails to initialize. It just times out and the kernel shuts down. I'm really bumbed since I'd love to be able to run NS on my new system and I'm starting to get bored with Win95. ;-) Any ideas about fixing this problem are appreciated. L8TR, Houman PS: I've tried both driver versions 3.2 and 3.7 from NeXT answers.
From: nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to clear ROM password? Date: 1 Feb 1997 20:28:55 GMT Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or bypass it? sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them at the moment. if you reply by mail send to: kelm.3@osu.edu instead of this account thanks. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu
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From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 1 Feb 1997 21:57:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> References: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970130162522.26357A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Charles Bennett wrote: > >> I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. >> (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) >> >> I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 >> and was wondering if it would work. > >I'm not sure about NEXTSTEP on a Cyrix chip. As I hear, it will boot and >run, but some programs (notably OmniWeb) will simply crash the machine >dead in its tracks. Much as I normally root for Intel's competitors, I >hesitate to recommend using anything but an Intel chip for NEXTSTEP. This is the first time I've heard any problems with compatibility. Matter of fact, I thought I had seen on the Cyrix web site explicit support for NEXTSTEP. Can you confirm the problems you state above? Also, what rev and clock speed? There was that whole L1 write-back cache bug with Cyrix CPUs < v2.7; could your statements above be attributed to that? Finally, has anyone used an AMD K5 (100 or 133) for OPENSTEP? -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What ppp protocal is required to run TTYDSP on NeXTSTEP OS Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:19:06 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5cbjhq$m62@slip.net> Hi, I'm about to buy a TTYDSP modem to connect to an ISDN line. The modem is said to support MorningStar ppp, Transys PNI and tip and kermit. But freeware implmentations. Will this modem be satisfactory for connecting the cube to the IDSN? Will I need to aquire any NS specific software? I currently have NeXTSTEP 2.0 but plan to upgrade. What OS should I upgrade too? Is there anyone out there that insists I should give up my ethernet connection and go with Bit Surfer or Assend? Thanks, Emmett Thanks, Emmett
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nicholas Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 06:14:25 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? Thanks a lot. Nick Sharpe
From: king@tlogic.com (King Rhoton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 02:17:14 GMT Organization: Technologic, Inc. Message-ID: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> I'm buying a NeXT station color turbo, and I'm confused as to what version of NeXT/OPENstep I should be running on it (I'll have to buy media and a hard drive for it). I've found www.next.com to be useless in answering these questions. 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S and does it run on Motorola hardware? 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, what, 3 years old? 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one revision over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? Thanks, King Rhoton king@tlogic.com
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 2 Feb 1997 07:10:12 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> In article <5d0e82$229@news.us.net> bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) writes: >This is the first time I've heard any problems with compatibility. >Matter of fact, I thought I had seen on the Cyrix web site explicit >support for NEXTSTEP. Can you confirm the problems you state above? >Also, what rev and clock speed? There was that whole L1 write-back cache >bug with Cyrix CPUs < v2.7; could your statements above be attributed >to that? > I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. >Finally, has anyone used an AMD K5 (100 or 133) for OPENSTEP? > No, sorry. -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: 2 Feb 1997 09:03:15 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5d1l8j$sm0@darla.visi.com> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> Nicholas Sharpe (cybobob@mindspring.com) wrote: : I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it : says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video : from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? No live capture. You can, however, do "frame grabbing" at a peak rate of about 5-7fps (your mileage may vary), have a live video window on your desktop (which is great for watching TV), do cool video/bitmap layering stuff. It's a fun toy. Video out, btw, is also pretty useful for some things. Also, NS is beautiful in 24bit color. :) -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:57:07 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970131115300.8711B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> In-Reply-To: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Ann wrote: > I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. > Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. > My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these > machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network > card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. All NeXT hardware has ethernet built-in. All NeXTstations (and NeXTcubes) have both 10baseT and 10base2 ports, and the hardware autodetects which is in use. (You can't use both at the same time.) Other than SIMM slots, there are no internal expansion slots on a station. All the good stuff is standard (ethernet, audio, video, SCSI, etc.). The original 68030 NeXT computer only had 10base2 ethernet, but you were asking about a NeXTstation, so you have nothing to worry about. -Isaac
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From: Paul_Lynch@plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:49:24 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Feb2.154924.1458@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> In <32F27447.7716@bridge.net> german gobel wrote: > Mike Paquette wrote: > > For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without > > resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean > > transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good > > disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over > > time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high > > quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. > > > > Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV > > disk. > > Could you maybe suggest a specific laserdisk model that would do this? > thanks german gobel I think just about all models will support freeze frame on CAV disks. Mike is referring to the cost of a transfer; i.e. cutting a one off custom disk. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: Ronald Pomeroy <rpomeroy@dallas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:10:09 -0600 Organization: D'A Message-ID: <32F4D881.68FD@dallas.net> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> <5d1l8j$sm0@darla.visi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Young wrote: > > Nicholas Sharpe (cybobob@mindspring.com) wrote: > : I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it [munch] > Also, NS is beautiful in 24bit color. :) > Especially when you add 8 bits of transparency information! Ron Pomeroy rpomeroy@dallas.net
From: pubah@rio.nutecnet.com.br (Carlos Andre "Pubah") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Black_Hardware_Cellebration: Painting White Hardware ------> Is It Possible? Date: 2 Feb 1997 17:35:35 GMT Organization: The Pubah Foundation Message-ID: <5d2j97$nq7@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I have a dream. I wanna paint my White Hardware with NeXT classical black hardware color. Quesntions: 1. Is It Possible? 2. If I Can... 2.1. How To with my tower case? 2.2 How to with my keybord? 2.3 How to with my monitor? I would apreciate comments. thanks a lot ---------------------------------------------------------------------- carlos andre "pubah" - the pubah foundation - rio de janeiro, brazil pubah@rio.nutecnet.com.br - rio 2004, candidate city ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: BABAK@TI.COM (Babak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,cornell.marketplace,dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,dc.forsale.misc,de.markt.misc,de.rec.games.computer,desy.zeus.compute,dfw.forsale,dfw.general,dk.general,donbass.commerce Subject: Re: GREAT STUFF AT WHOLESALE PRICES! Date: Sun, 02 Feb 1997 12:13:12 -0600 Organization: TI Message-ID: <BABAK-0202971213120001@pbbmac.csc.ti.com> References: <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com> In article <32F3B9AB.502C@tidepool.com>, "P.B.& A.C." <phil@tidepool.com> wrote: > -- > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > | | > * * > | Looking for some great CD's, | > * videos, books, computer software and more * > | at wholesale prices? Seeing is believing! | > * Check us out! * > | | > * * > | http://www.tidepool.com/becker | > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* you call these a WHOLE SALE price?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: Andrew Kaczorek <andrew@arh0269.urh.uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 14:36:48 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.91.970202143505.387A-100000@arh0269.urh.uiuc.edu> References: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> If you haven't been told already, you just need to take the thing apart, pull out the battery (it's a cylindrical battery about 1.5" long somewhere toward the front of the board) and wait somewhere around 20 minutes. Then, put it back in. The "hardware password" will be cleared. I had a lot of trouble originally getting my NeXT up---so if you have any other questions feel free..... Andrew Kaczorek On 1 Feb 1997, RHS Linux User wrote: > How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? > > I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or bypass it? > > sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them at the moment. > > if you reply by mail send to: > kelm.3@osu.edu > > instead of this account thanks. > > -- > Nick Poolos > poolos.1@osu.edu > > >
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Black_Hardware_Cellebration: Painting White Hardware ------> Is It Possible? Date: 2 Feb 97 15:03:32 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1A5D48-9B300@207.147.52.185> References: <5d2j97$nq7@srv4-poa.nutecnet.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.marketplace On Sun, Feb 2, 1997 12:35 PM, Carlos Andre "Pubah" <mailto:pubah@rio.nutecnet.com.br> wrote: > I have a dream. > > I wanna paint my White Hardware with NeXT classical > black hardware color. > > Quesntions: > > 1. Is It Possible? > > 2. If I Can... > > 2.1. How To with my tower case? > 2.2 How to with my keybord? > 2.3 How to with my monitor? > > I would apreciate comments. > > thanks a lot Check out the NeXT faq. I think under topic #9 there is a description of the proper paint to use. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
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From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 2 Feb 1997 22:52:16 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> Cc: tgritton@sprynet.com Hello Isaac, Dave, Mitch, Liuyi, Chris, Sean, Terry, and all else in this thread, As having been a long time NON-ADB(NADB) user who's just switched AND happens to have ADB and NADB equipment lying about.. I'll try to put up some images (I'm desperate for a decent Hi-8 camera BTW..) with some info on the NADB switch that one can do on most machines.. When I first saw a ADB setup I thought 'WAY COOL'. The ADB really looks neat. I like the smaller keyboard, and it feels a little stiffer than my NADB which I tend to prefer. At first glance the command key at the bottom I thought would be cool. Now after using the keyboard for about 1-2 months I can say that it takes a lot of getting used to since being below the space bar it's easy to accidentally hit it while typing.. I am getting much better with it and I am confidant I'll like the ADB over the NADB keyboard (I usually sit it in my lap BTW) but it was a transition.. At first sitting I really didn't like the ADB keyboard. Now to the mouse.. I think they look cool too! Almost get a feeling of ears on that mouse. Initially I didn't like the feel of it either, but I definately tought it was an improvement over having black stains on my fingers from degrading rubber (or just the feeling of the stuff). It is definately lighter and I can see why some people would like more heft in the mouse.. In terms of button depressing as Sean asked in <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have > used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the > ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the > knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. I would have agreed about a month ago,but since then I discovered for myself what Isaac wrote in <Pine.LNX.3.95.970128083335.14067A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> > Are you depressing the buttons with the tips of your fingers (a la the old > NeXT mouse)? If so, then no wonder you're getting cramps. I believe you're > supposed to sort of drape your hand over the mouse, laying your first two > fingers flat on the buttons. Then just push your fingers down slightly to > click. Light-years ahead of the original NeXT mouse, IMO. And I'm much happier. Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve the origionals) machine. I havn't personally done this but Scott Anguish has (see article <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com>). It wouldn't suprise me if there were others.. My concerns would be about whether all the command-alt-shft-~ worked and the show stopper command-alt-*. Other than that I would personally agree with Scott that having a unified keyboard across platforms would be pleasing to say the least and there are some really nice ADB ergonomic keyboards/mice out there. I just havn't had the opportunity to try them. And they all take a little getting used to (learning curve) before one can state a definate like/dislike for any of them. Now if I could find a keyboard that felt like the old IBM Selectric's I could really fly (the keys literally snapped back!) Ok. On to other things. In <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Chris Borden asked a question that I've been wondering about. That being whether one could use a ADB tablet on the ADB bus & not the serial port?! I had another question that related to whether I could find a Wacom tablet that I could use between the NeXT and a SGI. There are other questions with tablets too. Like if I use Daydream. Does Daydream support tablets on the ADB bus? I'm rather handy with soldering iron and wire etc. So I could make a different connector if required to make 'a' wacom work between SGI and the NeXT (even if on serial ports) but then what about on the NeXT under Daydream? Unfortunate thing is I don't have a tablet to play around with, and I'm not buying one until I find a cheap enough price (so in case it doesn't work I don't loose too much money) or I'm rather knowledgable/confidant that it will work in 2/3 cases.. I'm rather interested in those Art II Z's BTW:! Lastly. In terms of using NADB stuff on ADB systems. I havn't tried. I do know that on Cubes using a non ADB monitor cable seems to disable the command-alt-shift-~ sequence to get to the ROM monitor. I could check all the different combinations of sound box, cables, mice if anybody cared to know for sure. I don't have a ADB mono system so I can't say for sure about differences between having a ADB vs NADB monitor.. Probably similiar to having ADB vs. NADB sound box.. And the final issue: How does one convert a NADB to ADB and vice versa. Well I'd have to tear apart my sisters 25Mhz ADB station to see, but I believe that in every 040 system you can simply upgrade your EEPROM to v3.3 74 (are there later ones?) and replace components with ADB components. On systems with soundboxes this would mean perhaps a different Slab-Soundbox cable, Soundbox, cable to keyboard, keyboard, and mouse. On those Mono-slabs it would probably mean a different cable from Slab to Monitor, different Monitor, keyboard cable from keyboard to monitor, and mouse. To downgrade you simply do the opposite downgrade the EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for your machine (I'm not completely sure what version EEPROMS will work in what machines.. Mike Paquette might know more here) and replace the above ADB components.. Oh. And one last thing I believe you get with ADB but I am not absolutely sure if ADB is required or if this support was included in some NADB systems, but with an ADB system you should be able to boot off CDROM w/o having to use the floppy.. Interestingly most ADB systems have 2.88's. Hopefully in the near future I'll have some time to put up a set of web pages with information like this in it with images the pieces of hardware, a little more information on the EEPROM revisions etc.. Well guess that's about it.. Hope everyone is enjoying the Apple-NeXT ride.. I pray Apple/NeXT get the hint to get a Openstep port to PPC out WAY before 98!! And If I had a wish that would be for Apple/NeXT to put out/support similiar ports for Openstep/Mach on Intel, Sparc, and HP. I know it's a tough proposition, but frankly if Apple/Next would just do a straight port of Openstep/Mach to PPC to demonstrate feasibility and ease of porting (like get a alpha/beta port done and out the door by March, 1, 97 to developers!) it would do much to help both of their beaten images. A miracle can cover a lot of front pages!! (hint, hint) THEN & ONLY THEN upgrade Mach kernel, some of the other drivers, pieces of the OS, etc. perhaps adding in some of the Apple specific API support and then releasing an upgrade for all hardware like June 97. (Mainly to get SMP support in for dual PPC's, and probably better drivers for PPC) The point being that Apple/NeXT has to get something out the door in a hurry on PPC. It would also be a terrible and Insane mistake for Apple/NeXT to or appear to drop support on OpenStep/Mach on Intel. They have a huge market there that is untapped. I hope Apple knows what they've purchased and use it to leverage open their markets into what was previously untouchable territory x86!! Best wishes to everyone. Apple/NeXT are you listening?! Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 2 Feb 1997 23:01:31 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5d36cb$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) > Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT > Message-ID: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - > > [replace "MB" with "Gigabyte" when reading quoted area ;-] > > > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB > > partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two > > partitions of let's say 2 MB? > > is less than (not = to) then it will work. You can have as many <2 > gig partitions as you want > > > > > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. > > Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. > > "out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens > after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened > to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at > "sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum > drives. > I'll tell you I definately don't like the darn things.. I had a Grand Prix not a fireball. Also in terms of working out of the box on my black hardware I find that any drive greater than 4G (I think I just got 3 partitions on there) was not PNP. In fact on almost every disk greater than 2G I think I had to make a disktab entry and then do a builddisk from disk. Oh. And BTW NeXT! Your installer on 3.3 screws up completely with my MO. Meaning if I install 3.3 on my MO and boot from that to install a clean 3.3 on a HD the installer completely chokes my SCSI bus checking out the first device (the MO of course) and my Pinnacle Sierra ends up spitting out the root disk which at that point hangs my system. Can you say hard shutdown.. A real pain in the arse IMHO. And I don't believe this is broken on any earlier version of NS.. All I can say about disks >2G on black hardware is that for a second disk they are great (with conner 4G right now) as a boot disk I don't like them. A final note also. Perhaps I didn't dig deep enough but daydream would not boot up on a root disk with > 2G partition. And it was a little scary that one can't simply reinstall base pieces of the OS from CDROM (at least for me) on disks > 2G.. But pehaps it was the fact I have 4G disks (slightly bigger than 2 full 2G partitions).. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN and NeXT Cube Date: 2 Feb 1997 23:28:53 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5d37vl$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> Cc: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com In <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com wrote: > Hi: > > I'm running one of those old cube machines and was wondering if anyone has > any experience with the cube and ISDN. I'm looking for some way to > connect to the internet that's faster than a 28.8 baud modem (I use the > SLIP protocol). I don't think the serial port on the next was designed to > handle a modem any faster than this, so I assume ISDN is the way to go. > However, can I use that Ethernet connection on the back of the cube for > this? > > I don't have much experience with internet hardware, so any suggestions > would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance. > > - Chuck Chuck, With black hardware it would be best to get a cheap x86 box with ISDN card (running NT, linux, etc.) and ethernet card drop in a ethernet HUB and your off. My solution is a Pipeline 50 ISDN box with a ethernet HUB . It isn't cheap ($600 +ship for P50, and $120 for HUB) but it works like a champ and takes no cycles from any of my boxes. If your ISP has a Pipeline on the other end you can enable compression. I've seen speeds from 8KB - 30KB/sec typically (mostly in the 14-16KB/sec ranges). Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX Date: 3 Feb 1997 01:54:26 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5d3ggi$ena@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott A Douglass <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > - The printer is known to be fully functional > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > I'm particularly suspicious of the DIP switch setting on the NTX... > I've tried very hard to make it work but I never could. There seems to be some problems with /usr/lib/NextPrinter/Server/prserver when it sends data to the printer. I tryied to patch around the strings :(SYNC %d %d )print statusdict/pagecount 2 copy known {get exec} {pop pop 0} ifelse = ( ESYNC)print%s" and "SYNC %d %d %d ESYNC" prserver without success. I guess that a small patch in the source code would be needed, but unfortunately, source code is not available here. __Pascal Bourguignon__
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4zyn7.G9o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:33:07 GMT References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr>, Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: >jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: >> I want to obtain NeXTBus technical information, so as to design >>a NeXTBus interface card. What information and how to obtain these >>information? Is there any book about NeXTBus? > >1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. >2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, > ref 1243.00. > And I think both of these are on Peanuts (peanuts.leo.org) in some somewhat obvious place. >NeXT "offers" a single-chip NextBus Interface Chip (NBIC) a 144-pin >CMOS device to do all the dirty jobs. > NeXT had a development board, which was, as I recall, a wire-wrap board with an NBIC, documentation, some software, and so on. The last time I looked for one of these on c.s.n.marketplace about 18 months ago they went for $300 or so. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Message-ID: <E4zxz2.Jx@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 22:18:38 GMT In article <5d0927$e9e@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) writes: > How does on clear the password set in ROM on a slab? > > I am trying to mount the NS cd to installlit on to a ne drive > and I get a password prompt. Is there a way to claer this, or > bypass it? > > sorry if this is in the manuals but i don't have acess to them > at the moment. > Pull the plug and open the box. Remove the lithium battery for an hour or two (shorting the socket is the quick option but beware of static discharge). Put it in again (right orientation) and then do all steps backwards... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NADB on ADB [was Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB] Date: 3 Feb 1997 04:33:08 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5d3pq4$881@library.airnews.net> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rencsok@channelu.com wrote: > [...LONG combo post with losts of good points truncated...] > Lastly. In terms of using NADB stuff on ADB systems. > I havn't tried. I do know that on Cubes using a non ADB > monitor cable seems to disable the command-alt-shift-~ > sequence to get to the ROM monitor. I could check all > the different combinations of sound box, cables, mice > if anybody cared to know for sure. I don't have a ADB > mono system so I can't say for sure about differences > between having a ADB vs NADB monitor.. Probably > similiar to having ADB vs. NADB sound box.. Randy, I'm interested in finding out about what NADB parts are interchangable with ADB and vice versa. I think it's about time someone put her keyboard where her mouse is. That's exactly what I just did, so let's call it Experiment 0: Equipment: * ADB Turbo Cube w/ SoundBox ADB mouse and keyboard. * NADB 25MHz Slab w/o SoundBox, NADB mouse and keyboard. Results: 1. NADB mouse and keyboard will not fit into the ADB keyboard or the ADB SoundBox without modification. [1] 2. ADB mouse will not work on a NADB keyboard, period. ADB keyboard will not fit into the back of N4000A monitor without modification. [1] 3. ADB mouse/keyboard on an NADB SoundBox was not tested, as I don't have one. [1] ADB's plug looks very similar to NADB keyboard's plug. I guess you can plug the NADB Keyboard into the ADB Soundbox and ADB mouse into NADB keyboard, _if_ you're willing to get rid of the dummy plastic fat pins in both the ADB and NADB plugs. Someone better heeled than I am need to carry out this destructive experiment. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Message-ID: <1997Jan25.115647.1020@gamelan.shnet.org> Date: 25 Jan 97 11:56:47 GMT References: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Organization: Disorganization Cc: amoghal@predator In <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Aamir Moghal wrote: > Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem > for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black > Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for > sale? From the docs it seems that you can use the latest mgetty+sendfax package from linux. Get version 1.0 or later. I never tried it but would be glad to receive any reports on succs/failures.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702021714.MAA04584@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: d480cd7d933085d24ab3dcd2c94a5b6e - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:14:25 -0500 Subject: Re: How to clear ROM password? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: d480cd7d933085d24ab3dcd2c94a5b6e - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: nick@S-98-185.resnet.ohio-state.edu (RHS Linux User) Original Date: 1 Feb 1997 20:28:55 GMT > How does one clear the password set in ROM on a slab? http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq-noframe.html#HardwarePassword TjL ps -- there's other stuff there that you might want to read as a new owner -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 3 Feb 1997 01:56:09 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott A Douglass <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > - The printer is known to be fully functional > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. The problem really lies in prserver. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to find NeXTbus information? Date: 3 Feb 1997 03:35:35 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Message-ID: <5d3me7$ke2@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> References: <5cvmo8$nin@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr> <E4zyn7.G9o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) ´£¨ì: : In article <5d06oo$o8g@news.grolier.fr>, : Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: : >1) "NextBus Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, ref 993.00. : >2) "NextBus Interface Chip Specification" from NeXT, dated 04/90, : > ref 1243.00. : And I think both of these are on Peanuts (peanuts.leo.org) in some somewhat : obvious place. Oh, I found them, they are in peanuts:/pub/next/Documents/hardware *BUT* They are in WriteNow format. I just own a white machine now. So I don't have WriteNow to read them, and the import filter of OpenWrite tells me WriteNow filter only runs on Black machine....:( Who can convert them to PostScript or RTF for me? If someone done the convertion, tell me, I will let you ftp to ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw. Thanks. : NeXT had a development board, which was, as I recall, a wire-wrap board with : an NBIC, documentation, some software, and so on. The last time I looked for : one of these on c.s.n.marketplace about 18 months ago they went for $300 or so. hmmm....but does NeXT Co. offers this now? Or does someone want to sell it? -- ¶À«T³Ç = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702021721.MAA04740@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 2 Feb 97 12:21:29 -0500 Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: king@tlogic.com (King Rhoton) Original Date: Sun, 02 Feb 97 02:17:14 GMT Message-ID: 752439a5d92712f1060d71817c61c171 - > 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S yes. > and does it run on Motorola hardware? Slowly (I've heard) > 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, > what, 3 years old? because there's a lot of NeXTStep machines out there, and if you want to compile apps QuadFat for NeXTStep, you need 3.3. I got it because someday I'll be getting an Intel machine and may want to put NeXTStep on it (if I don't like the Rhapsody, for example) Also, 3.3 apps will run under OpenStep/Mach, so there's still some use to it. > 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one > revision over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? For NeXT hardware, 3.2 is pretty much fine for 98% of life. The Mail.app for 3.3 is better (MIME support, loadable bundles), but if you are dealing with just a NeXT machine, 3.2 is all you really need. 3.3 is required for most Intel hardware (the 3.3 CD can be loaded onto either NeXT hardware or Intel, it has both) and if you want to compile quadfat you'll want 3.3 dev tools. Given that you have a turbo, you may be able to use OpenStep... you can load it w/ RAM, whereas some mono machines can only take 32 RAM. Someone is probably running 4.1 and can tell you better than I can how it works under a turbo. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: michael@rumah.pc.my (Michael Olan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 1997 12:36:29 GMT Organization: Personal Message-ID: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Thanks, Mike michael@rumah.pc.my (NeXT Mail OK)
From: "JOACHIM MOSAKU" <jo@fbtconsultancy.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) Date: 3 Feb 1997 14:13:35 GMT Organization: FBT CONSULTANCY Message-ID: <01bc11dc$1f2c3740$e6f983c1@jo> References: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Could you explain exactly how this was done please. I have not been able to install OpenStep on a Versa 6030X. Sean Hill <shill@iphysiol.unil.ch> wrote in article <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch>... > Darryl Anton <daisho@earthlink.net> wrote: > > anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000 > > I have OPENSTEP 4.0 running on a Versa 6030. It works. With a few > exceptions. I had to first install OPENSTEP on the disk from another > machine. The only problem I've had is that the PCMCIA driver doesn't work so > great. Some people have said it crashes immediately and hangs the machine.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E515sy.CuB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 14:05:22 GMT References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo >And the final issue: How does one convert a NADB to >ADB and vice versa. Well I'd have to tear apart my >sisters 25Mhz ADB station to see, but I believe that in >every 040 system you >can simply upgrade your EEPROM >to v3.3 74 (are there later ones?) and replace components >with ADB components. On systems with soundboxes this This isn't quite sufficient. You also need the Turbo chipset to get ADB support. There are 25MHz "Turboid" machines, so that's likely what your sister has. >EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for >your machine Don't think you need to do this to run Non-ADB, since the higher ROM versions will handle both. >system you should be able to boot off CDROM w/o having >to use the floppy.. Interestingly most ADB systems have >2.88's. > That's a function of the later ROM code understanding 2048-byte sectors on SCSI devices. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to do the trick? Much thanks for any info. Sven
From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 1997 10:25:44 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <5d501o$g02@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> NNTP-Posting-User: hess In article <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my>, Michael Olan <michael@rumah.pc.my> wrote: >I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... >Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely >supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the >hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? I have a slab that's been running on edge for most of 5 years. The only problem I've had is with dust getting into the floppy drive, since the slot is now on the top. I have it setting against a vertical partition, so the air circulation works pretty much as it would lying flat.
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 97 10:38:59 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1B70C6-726B6@207.147.60.169> References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 7:36 AM, Michael Olan <mailto:michael@rumah.pc.my> wrote: > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Today's hard drives have no problem being stood on their sides. The older hard drives are less well constructed and you might experience some loss of data from standing them on their side from head missallignment. I think this risk is small, but the safest thing to do is to position the machine as you would want it and then reformat the drive in that position. Any effect gravity has on the head armature will be negated by this precaution. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: 3 Feb 97 10:40:26 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1B711D-73B2E@207.147.60.169> References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 7:36 AM, Michael Olan <mailto:michael@rumah.pc.my> wrote: > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? A follow up to my last comment. Why would you wnt to stand this thing on it's side? Are you thinking of putting it in a book case or something? In which case you should make sure you have plenty of air circulation around the box. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ATAPI IDE CD-ROM (NEC) - having problem installing NextStep 3.3 Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:41:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d50vp$qcv@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> In article <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> Pei-Te Kao <pkao@halcyon.com> writes: > In the last few weeks, I have been trying to install NextStep 3.3 on a >... > I have talked with NeXT tech support and was told that they have had > this driver problem with NEC's drive (ATAPI EIDE). They said that I can > attach an external SCSI CD ROM drive for installation. However, after > it's installed it still can't recognize the internal NEC CD ROM drive. I've heard other OS's (Linux) also have trouble with the NEC CDROM. I'd recommend getting rid of it, and replacing with one that does work, TEAC, SONY, MITSUMI, etc... -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep on IBM-Aptiva-Stelth Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:35:04 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d543o$7mj@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu> In article <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu>, andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: |> Has anyone tried to install NeXTstep on the cool-looking |> IBM Aptiva-Stelth? |> |> I plan to buy one if installation is strait forward. |> |> Please e-mail me and post as I don't always XRN (read news). |> |> |> Thanks, |> |> Andrew O.K., has any seen the specs on the IBM Aptiva Stelth and know weather or not its componets are compatible with NeXTstep 3.3 ? Thanks again, Andrew
From: larry@ve6vq.ampr.org (Larry Gadallah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted: DSP expansion RAM Date: 3 Feb 1997 16:43:33 GMT Organization: Value Net Internetwork Services Inc. Message-ID: <5d54jm$qjc$1@vnetnews.value.net> Wanted: DSP expansion RAM SIMM from NeXT or SFSU. I am looking for a DSP expansion RAM SIMM for either a black cube or color turbo slab. I know that a group at SFSU was once building these SIMMs and selling them, but they recently informed me that they stopped making them some time ago. NeXT also had a smaller expansion SIMM at one time. I am interested in either of these or information that would allow me to "roll my own". Thank you, -- Larry Gadallah, VE6VQ/K6 larry@ve6vq.ampr.org Walnut Creek, California +1 510 943-2164 Key fingerprint = D6 79 5D 9D 41 27 74 03 68 FD D7 F3 86 68 EB A5
From: frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 3 Feb 1997 17:19:30 GMT Organization: ipc, U of Tuebingen, Germany Message-ID: <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Cc: pjb@imaginet.fr In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: > In article <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott A Douglass > <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > > - The printer is known to be fully functional > > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the > printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. > The problem really lies in prserver. > I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). (Just search your SysAdmin bookshelf for 'zs', this is what you'll find...) NeXT Null-Modem Cable (DTR Flow Control) The following table describes the configuration of a null-modem cable used to connect a NeXT computer to a printer that only supports DTR hardware flow control, rather than RTS/CTS hardware flow control. MiniDIN-8 RS-232 Pin Signal Pin Signal 1 DTR 8 DCD 2 DCD 5 CTS 3 TXD 3 RXD 4 GND 7 GND 5 RXD 2 TXD 6 RTS 20 DTR 7 (Not connected) 8 CTS 4 RTS Maybe this helps. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: jim middleton <overland.ppp@199.3.65.1> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: How to create serial port speed 38400??? Date: 3 Feb 1997 17:39:42 GMT Organization: overland Message-ID: <5d57su$497$1@news.iquest.net> References: <01bc0e84$7c4fae80$690497cf@opus.dreams.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If anyone has an answer to this, I'm needign to do the same thing in aboutt a week, thanks!... - Greg SOrry I couldn't help you out... :<
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 2 Feb 1997 14:25:43 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> Cc: king@tlogic.com In <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> King Rhoton wrote: > I'm buying a NeXT station color turbo, and I'm confused as to what version of > NeXT/OPENstep I should be running on it (I'll have to buy media and a hard > drive for it). I've found www.next.com to be useless in answering these > questions. > > 1) Is OPENstep 4.1 for Mach a full O/S and does it run on Motorola hardware? > 2) Why is everyone here interested in getting NeXTstep 3.3 if it's, what, 3 > years old? > 3) Are there any performance reasons why I would want to choose one revision > over another keeping in mind the hardware I'll have? > > Thanks, > King Rhoton > king@tlogic.com > OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a full O/S. However, the developer version deleted the 3D kit. NeXTTeX was also deleted. Support for HP hardware was also dropped. OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a memory hog, since it includes the NEXTSTEP 3.3 runtime libraries for backward compatibilty. So you might want to go to >48 MB RAM if you go 4.1. Otherwise, I've heard there were some performance improvements in 4.x over 3.3. Also, 4.2 may be in the offing at a reduced price with fewer bugs than 4.1. 3.3 should be available cheap. It is very stable. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: Mon, 03 Feb 1997 13:05:43 -0500 Organization: Harvard Medical School Message-ID: <ibhan-0302971305430001@infobhan.med.harvard.edu> I'm looking to get a copy of NeXTSTEP for black hardware. I will be getting a mono cube donated to me shortly with NS 2.0 preloaded. Needless to say, I'd like to upgrade to a newer version so I can try out some NeXT apps. Ideally, I'd like to get OpenStep/Mach 4.1, but I really don't want to spend much money on it. Is there anywhere to get it for less than $300? Otherwise, is there any place selling 3.3 used for a decent price? I a student, so I would apply for any relevant discounts. Also an issue: I don't have an external CD-ROM drive. Anyone know where I could get one cheap? Even a 1x would be fine...it would just be for installing stuff on the cube or my PowerBook. Lastly, I remember the Cube used some sort of funky SCSI connector. Is there anywhere to get an adapter to turn this into a Mac-style 25-pin connector (I saw that one comes with the Jaz drive, but I imagine they are available seperately). Thanks for any help! -- Ishir Bhan Harvard Medical School '00 ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu http://www.digitas.harvard.edu/~ibhan
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: 3 Feb 1997 18:41:06 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5d5bg2$5s5@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> In-Reply-To: <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> On 02/01/97, Lee Altenberg wrote: > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't recall the > rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. > If you happen to be doing a lot of work with the DSP -- e.g if you're wanting to use MusicKit, and want long delay loops etc. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 3 Feb 1997 20:06:45 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5d5ggl$1rt@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <5cr1oj$bfa@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >I did some benchmarks, and a 486 DX2 66 MHz PC was 2.5 times faster than the >NeXT 25 MHz 68040 for basic CPU speed. Graphics performance is comparable. How much memory? That seems to be the major factor. My cube with 64MB of memory was much faster than my PC with 8- or the cube when it had 16, for that matter. A PC with enough memory and good SCSI and graphics cards is faster, for sure. The NeXT still looks better though. It's a handsome piece of machinery. ab
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 3 Feb 1997 19:28:50 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5d5e9i$ko2@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <E515sy.CuB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <E515sy.CuB@novice.uwaterloo.ca>, David Evans <dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >>EEPROM with something < v3.3 74 appropriate for >>your machine > Don't think you need to do this to run Non-ADB, since the higher ROM >versions will handle both. No they won't. Non-turbo machines won't boot up with 3.3v74 ROMs. I've tried it on my non-turbo cube. > That's a function of the later ROM code understanding 2048-byte sectors on >SCSI devices. Ditto here. And the v66 ROMs, the latest for non-turbo systems, can't boot off a CD-ROM drive without the aid of the boot floppy. But, I didn't try it with my CD-ROM drive as id0. This attempt may work but the last time I tried, with v63 ROMs, I couldn't boot up--probably because of fstab or something similar (and I didn't pursue the matter any further). Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: tmooney@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (Travis Truman Mooney) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc Subject: mac m/b in a 12"x12" form factor? Date: 3 Feb 1997 19:20:25 GMT Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo Message-ID: <5d5dpp$6d@isnews.csc.calpoly.edu> Anyone ever bothered to find out the form factors of powermac motherboards? With the Apple/NeXT merger, it looks like halfway decent hardware may be available for NeXTStep. But it just won't be the same if it's not the cube. I wonder if i can draw power off the nextbus.... Maybe gutting the internals and putting in a mac power supply would be better instead.... Thoughts? travis tmooney@lore.acs.calpoly.edu (ascii only, please) -- travis i don't miss home, but i miss some of the people some of the time
From: "Jack" <jgroll@xpoint.at> Subject: graphics-card-need help Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Message-ID: <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper> Date: 3 Feb 97 20:07:20 GMT folks, I've heard quite often that I should get myself a 3D-graphics card, BUT I don't know which one to buy: Do the computer games support all cards? If not, which ones are mostly supported? I have Win 95 installed-do I only need a card that supports Win 95? I'm gonna get a MMX-CHip-is there a special / a good card for MMX? As I live in Austria there are not very many nor the newer ones available! Thanks in advance! Jack
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: 3 Feb 97 15:33:20 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF1BB5C5-176322@207.147.51.147> References: <ibhan-0302971305430001@infobhan.med.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.hardware On Mon, Feb 3, 1997 1:05 PM, Ishir Bhan <mailto:ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu> wrote: > Also an issue: I don't have an external CD-ROM drive. Anyone know where > I > could get one cheap? Even a 1x would be fine...it would just be for > installing stuff on the cube or my PowerBook. Any SCSI CD ROM should work. > > Lastly, I remember the Cube used some sort of funky SCSI connector. Is > there anywhere to get an adapter to turn this into a Mac-style 25-pin > connector (I saw that one comes with the Jaz drive, but I imagine they are > available seperately). The cable is a SCSI2 to SCSI cable. It's available in any computer store. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Message-ID: <E51tBI.q7@hurka.UUCP> Keywords: Cyrix compatibility Sender: tom@hurka.UUCP (Tomas Hurka) Organization: Hukatronic (H.C.C.) References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 22:33:18 GMT Hi Leigh, In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) writes: > I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug > with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, > but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang > the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and > Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 > with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an > Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. > NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, > only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They > aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with Intel. Bye, -- Tomas Hurka tom@hukatronic.cz NeXTMAIL and MIME OK (international mail <50 KB accepted)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Looking for NeXT station Message-ID: <1997Feb3.165222.13970@bvu.edu> From: flying_nun@hotmail.com Date: Mon, 03 Feb 97 22:58:50 GMT I've been browsing around in the various newgroups for an inexpensive (i.e. under $350) machine to tool around with and do some light programming in my spare time. Old hardware also interests me. My experience with NeXT's is limited to the lonely NeXTcube that used to sit in the back of the Universities old computer center. So I was wondering if anyone has any information about what a system might cost. I've found some information on a couple of web sites but I thought I'd ask someone who has used one of these machines a bit more than I have. Any information would be appreciated. Matt
From: me@taegeug.kaist.ac.kr (My Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: 4 Feb 1997 03:54:29 GMT Organization: Set your organization ($ORGANIZATION) Message-ID: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Keywords: 64M Ram panic NextStep Hello, How can i cure the system panic problem of NS with 64M Dram? I just bought a pair of 16M EDO Drams. I had a pair of normal 16M Drams already. Therefore now i have 64M Ram. In WIN95 system, there is no problem with my Pentium 100, but if i boot NS, the system become 'Panic'. My results are as follows: slot 1 EDO slot 2 EDO System Panic slot 3 Normal slot 4 Normal slot 1 Normal slot 2 Normal System Panic slot 3 EDO slot 4 EDO slot 1 Normal slot 2 EDO System Panic slot 3 Normal slot 4 EDO slot 1 EDO slot 2 EDO No problem.. slot 3 Vacant slot 4 Vacant slot 1 Normal slot 2 Normal No problem slot 3 Vacant slot 4 Vacant When booted without boot graphics, i see that my computer recognized ram as 64M. But the system panic occurs after finish the booting (after the message "boot completed"). I cannot read the messages after that time, because the message sweped out too fastly. My system is as follows: CPU: Pentium 100 intel. CD : Toshiva CD rom 4x. HDD: Quantum Fireball SCSI 1G , Hujithu 1G. Graphic Card: Diamond Stealth 3000 Vram 2M. SCSI controler: Symbios Logic 53C810 Sound Card: Sound Blaster AWE 32. LAN Card: 3Com Combo, 509 Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks, Hyeong-Chan Kim leo@chep5.kaist.ac.kr
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 4 Feb 1997 01:56:46 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5d650u$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Cc: spammers@ruin.the.internet I tried putting a Mac SE mouse on my ADB NeXTstation, and is **sorta** worked, but gave really wierd behavior---suddenly it started popping and the cursor became the ? help cursor. Another time, clicking on a window would send it to the bottom instead of bringing it to the top of the desktop. A Mac Apple Desktop Bus II mouse worked just fine. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
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From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 4 Feb 1997 04:24:17 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5d6dlh$7ep@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In article <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) writes: > In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: > > In article <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott A Douglass > > <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > > > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find > > > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have > > > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > > > > > > - I have a NeXT mini-8 -> db25 cable > > > - The printer is known to be fully functional > > > - Serial ports on the slab are known to be fully functional > > > > My cable and other settings wer very correct since I could dialog with the > > printer Postscript server via Kermit, and send it commands to print a page. > > The problem really lies in prserver. > > > > I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow > control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal > Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as > for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional > handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there > is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). > > (Just search your SysAdmin bookshelf for 'zs', this is what you'll find...) > > NeXT Null-Modem Cable (DTR Flow Control) [...] That was more than one year ago, but I remember that I even did the following: branch prserver to one terminal window, branch to the printer with a second terminal window, then copy and paste back and forth the characters. The protocol used by prserver didn't seem pertinent. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: "William J. Mittelstadt" <bmittelstadt@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help installing disk Date: 4 Feb 1997 04:24:51 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation running NS 3.2 ?
From: Erik Pennebaker <epenneba@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 07:00:44 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <E51tBI.q7@hurka.UUCP> Keywords: Cyrix compatibility tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes: >Hi Leigh, >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh >Smith) writes: >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang >> the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and >> Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 >> with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an >> Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. >Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution >for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with >Intel. Just in case anyone wants another confirmation, me too. Omniweb throws up a window and the whole thing freezes. Yftp froze after I left it on overnight, and the package installer freezes sometimes to boot. Omniweb is definite though - sure way to hose it. Now I actually have to spend $150 to _down_ grade to a P133. *sigh* -Erik -- ----- Erik Pennebaker | http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/epenneba | epenneba@uiuc.edu Futility is futile. CCSO Workstation Support Group, University of Illinois My opinions
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what is the slot by the Simm banks? Date: 2 Feb 1997 20:47:13 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5d2ugh$mk2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <32F30461.5501674C@osu.edu> <5cvk2r$4mn@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > Nick Poolos wrote: > > What is the slot that looks kinda like a 72 pin simm slot > > inside of a 1991 era slab? > > > > I just "inherited" this box and am in the process of setting > > it back up. It came stripped of drives and mem. > > > > > > That's for extra RAM for the digital signal processor. I can't > recall the rare circumstance where you would want to fill it. If you were doing things with the music kit. Or if you were writing your own programs to run in the DSP. I have a friend that did this, but I imagine it's pretty rare... --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 02:51:09 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5d686t$1m2@news.us.net> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <E51tBI.q7@hurka.UUCP> tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) wrote: >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh >Smith) writes: >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. > >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. How about confirmation on the AMD K5?? I'd like to spend as little as reasonable on my PC right now, since I'd like to get an OPENSTEP/PowerPC PPCP box later. Any comments on either the AMD K5 133 (now $100) or the upcoming K5 166? I wish Apple/Motorola/IBM would get their act together and ship some PPCP boxes - plus Apple should commit that Rhapsody will run on PPCP from the outset. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: LaserWriter II NTX (Post Scriptum) Date: 4 Feb 1997 02:56:28 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5d68gs$1m2@news.us.net> References: <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> <5d56n2$8v1@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> frank@miranda (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: >In <5d3gjp$ene@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Pascal Bourguignon wrote: >> In article <gmwsK3S00WB=0_51w0@andrew.cmu.edu> Scott A Douglass >> <sd3n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >> > I've been looking through FAQs, documentation, etc. and cannot find >> > a reason for my inability to connect and use a NTX. If you have >> > connected a NTX to an 040 slab, please send me email. > >I doubt that. In fact you'll need a special cable witch supports DTR flow >control (I had a QMS PS Jet Plus running with just the same setup). A normal >Null-Modem cable does not work, or works only for short PostScript file as >for long files the probability of a data overflow due to the non-functional >handshake is getting to high. When you send single chars using kermit there >is no overflow problem, so it appears to work.). I've gotten the Apple Laserwriter II NTX + NeXTstation combo to work before (4 years ago). I used a hardware flow control cable that I was using for telecom and added a NULL modem adapter. Then I set the printer DIP switches for serial and it worked. However, it was quite slow since I never figured out how to get the printer to handle the serial port faster than 9600bps. Bitmap graphics took literally 20 minutes to download and another 5-10 minutes to print. Then I picked up a NeXT Laser Printer on one of those first fire sales ($300) and never looked back. BTW, the NLP can print the same page in less than a minute. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: dfish@concentric.net (Don) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Network hardware and cables web site Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:24:55 GMT Organization: D-fish Message-ID: <5d7697$8sp@chronicle.concentric.net> New web site http://www.quadcablcon.com Wire, cable and network hardware for communicatin and computer industries.
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead monitor Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:03:51 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5d752n$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5cql9l$hd0@epx.cis.umn.edu> rleary@fordyn (Rolfe Leary) wrote: >I'd like to buy a new color monitor to replace the dead one on my Color >Turbo, but I'm not sure what type of monitor will work. Any suggestions >or recommendations? What type of adaptor will I need? Thanks. Any MultiSync color monitor that can handle the resolution (i.e. one that does > 1152x832). It must be capable of handling "sync on green". I have successfully used an older Eizo Flexscan, I'm sure newer models work just fine, too. You'll also need a 13W3 to BNC adaptor, or you can make your own. Here's an alternative approach: Every couple of weeks, somebody posts a request on how to attach a NeXT Color monitor to their PC (I just read such a posting an hour ago). Why don't you make them an attractive offer? You get a nice, cool looking *black* monitor, and a full size screen (the multisync approach results in a slightly shrunk screen display). All the best, hope this helps. Send me personal email if you can't find a source for the adaptor, I'll look up where I got mine. Chris PS: have you tried a taking the monitor to a qualified TV technician? Maybe it can still be fixed. Bring along the station so they get a signal to work with. -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tower slab Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:35:27 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <ImxngTO00iWS01Awhd@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> In-Reply-To: <5d4m4d$b2r@rumah.pc.my> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 3-Feb-97 tower slab by Michael Olan@rumah.pc.my > I know this might be a really dumb question, but I have to ask... > Is there any problem standing a slab on its side as long as its securely > supported so it doesn't topple over? I guess the main question is will the > hard disk function vertically with no ill effects? Two things. One, the slab has fins under the power supply on the bottom left of the slab, and these should be placed near or against a surface so that the airflow from the fan will cool the fins adequately. Two, you really want to low-level format your drive(s) in their new orientation since that will handle any minor changes in actuator position due to gravity. Most drives work okay without doing so, but it's a good idea. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: enigma <llay@ieng9.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: NS 3.2 apps incompatible with OS/Mach 4.1?! Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 01:50:25 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.970204004828.4203A-100000@ieng9.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I just recently upgraded my computer to OpenStep/Mach 4.1. I installed my old programs that used to run in NeXTSTEP 3.2. However, during execution of those program, strange error messages pops up in the console window: ... localhost netmsgserver [22] srr_process_queued_request.serr_send_packet fails: 51 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] srr_retry.sendto fails: 51, 8 + 120 = 128 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] netname_main.msg_send fails, kr = -102 ... localhost netmsgserver [22] netname_main.port_type fails, kr = 4 These messages are caused by launching any one of Lighthouse Design's programs (OpenWrite, Parasheet, Quantrix, etc.) as well as Anderson Financial System's PastUp v2.6. I'm not too sure of the versions for the Lighthouse's programs--is it possible that these aren't the newest versions? Perhaps these problems are solved by updates? Any ideas, suggestions, explanations appreciated. Thanks. Lucas.
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 00:27:01 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970203000946.17007B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 2 Feb 1997 spammers@ruin.the.internet wrote: > Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well > I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac > ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve > the originals) machine. I know that Mac mice work fine. Multi-button mice don't work right (well, only the main button works under NEXTSTEP). Now that I think about it, older Kensington TurboMouse trackballs (the ones you configure with DIP switches) might be able to use the second button as double-click or command-Z under NEXTSTEP, but I haven't tried it yet. I know you can't simulate the right NeXT mouse button. C'est la vie. I don't think the power buttons on mac keyboards act the same way as the NeXT ADB power button. Adjusting brightness and volume may also be problematic. (Does the Apple adjustable keyboard have volume controls? do they work?) Maybe you can turn on the machine with the NeXT keyboard, then swap to the Mac keyboard, though I know this can fry the ADB chip on some macs. > My concerns would be about whether all the command-alt-shft-~ worked and > the show stopper command-alt-*. Command-alt-shift-~ is now simply command-alt-~ with the ADB keyboard. I forget if command-alt-* is still the "three fingered salute," but I know there is one for ADB machines. > Ok. On to other things. In <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Chris > Borden asked a question that I've been wondering about. That being > whether one could use a ADB tablet on the ADB bus & not the serial > port?! I had another question that related to whether I could find a > Wacom tablet that I could use between the NeXT and a SGI. There > are other questions with tablets too. Like if I use Daydream. Does > Daydream support tablets on the ADB bus? I'm not aware of any ADB tablets... the only WACOM tablets I've used have hooked up to the serial port (yes, on Macs, too). They use an extension on Macs to work as a pointing device, so maybe if you loaded the extenstion under the Daydream environment... Good luck... -Isaac
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:38:03 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >OpenStep for Mach 4.1 is a memory hog, since it includes the NEXTSTEP 3.3 >runtime libraries for backward compatibilty. So you might want to go to >48 MB RAM if you go 4.1. Otherwise, I've heard there were some performance >improvements in 4.x over 3.3. I'm typing this on an NADB turbo with 32M memory, running 4.1. Since I haven't got all that much memory, I had feared a severe penalty for upgrading to 4.1, but its not bad at all. Except when compiling, my machine feels as fast as it did under 3.3. Them again, if you do a lot of development, you might consider running a Pentium as a compile server anyway. A *huge* improvement in compilation speed. Regards, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 03:07:31 GMT Organization: Melbourne PC User Group (Australia) Message-ID: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> Never used a "real" operating system before so please humor me. I've been forced to consume the best part of a cask of cheap and nasty white wine while trying to deal with NEXT STEP 3.3 for the first time. I have an IBM PC330 - 486 DX4 with 32MB, 2GB EIDE, 4X ATAPI CD ROM and pretty much everything else you ever could want built in. Ended up installing NEXT STEP on an old 540MB drive as NEXT STEP didn't like the 2GB - could have saved myself some money. Rebooted the box to get my first "wiff" of a real operating system (tissues were handy) and early watched the mono-chrome "boot stuff" happen (which must be in VGA or something). All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode every time NEXT STEP booted. The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? If the urge strikes you to tease me about the shity video card or the PC I own, refrain, and recommend the most IDEAL video card for NEXT STEP. One last thought... Who loves you babe? Anyone with a credit card!
From: leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh Smith) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 11:58:41 GMT Organization: The University of Western Australia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5d789h$73u$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> References: <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> In article <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Erik Pennebaker <epenneba@uiuc.edu> writes: >Now I actually have to spend $150 to _down_ grade to a P133. > >*sigh* > >-Erik I emailed ask-ibm who directed me to IBM Australia and they said I had to talk to the vendor and I somehow managed to convince them (by email) to take the CPU back and report the problem to IBM. If anyone wants some email reporting the problem, I can forward what I sent to IBM. Personally I think you should really bitch to the manufacturer and demand full refund. I managed to get a Pentium 150Mhz as a replacement for my 6x86 133Mhz (P166+) for only about AUS$100 more than the trade-in and you get a definite improvement above a Pentium 133, about 200,000 drystone performance. I'm a much less irritable person nowdays... :-) -- Leigh Smith Computer Science, University of Western Australia +61-9-380-1945 leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (NeXTMail/MIME) "In a world where success means gaining time, thinking has a single but irredeemable fault: it's a waste of time" - J-F. Lyotard
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:23:51 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d7urn$t30@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Use Configure.app to move the FramBuffer address for your video card above the 64MB region. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: 4 Feb 1997 18:22:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5d7upl$t2u@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5d686t$1m2@news.us.net> I can verify that the AMD 486 clones work without a hitch. We use a bunch of AMD486-120's and AMD486-133's without any problems whatsoever on an ASUS PVI-486SP3 motherboards. I'm going to try the Biostar motherboard soon, and will post my success/failure. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: emon@gte.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 14:19:02 -0500 Organization: GTE Laboratories Incorporated Message-ID: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive as new. And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has expired. --Emon
From: fockem@wangfed.com (Michael W. Focke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 5 Feb 1997 13:41:50 GMT Organization: Wang Federal Inc Message-ID: <5da2mu$6bl@elf.wang.com> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII One way to deal with this difficulty is to send the company a letter confirming your voice understanding of what you are ordering..can be letter, email or fax. It neads to state all your assumptions about the drive, that it is new (defined as never installed in a machine and not a refurbished or reapired unit) and carries a manufacturers warrantee of N years and a dealers guarantee of immediate replacement within N days if the drive fails on arrival or within NN days, etc. It confims your order and requests that they not ship the order if any of the facts are different. If you do this and you get something different, then you have something to show the authorities and a basis for a claim. It sure beats "but I thought you said....".
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: 3 Feb 1997 18:34:00 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5d5b2o$5q8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129071450.5523G-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129071450.5523G-100000@kira> On 01/29/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > > NeXT made. Any out there... > > what sorts of things are you looking for? > > We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): > > 030 cube > 040 cube > 040 slab > 040 color slab > 040 turbo slab > 040 turbo color slab > NeXT Dimension > NeXT ADB > > They also had a CD drive. > And a Laser Printer, and a Color Printer. And some rather good tie pins, and Cross Pens. And those special screwdriver things for getting the backplate off of Cubes -- kinda handy, but I think someone has cornered the market in them (at Expo '93). Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: Martin Klocke <martink@ika.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 21:29:33 +0100 Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Message-ID: <32F79C2D.3348@ika.rwth-aachen.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129071450.5523G-100000@kira> <5d5b2o$5q8@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit mmalcolm crawford wrote: > > On 01/29/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > > > > > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > > > NeXT made. Any out there... > > > > what sorts of things are you looking for? > > > > We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): > > > > 030 cube > > 040 cube > > 040 slab > > 040 color slab > > 040 turbo slab > > 040 turbo color slab > > NeXT Dimension > > NeXT ADB > > > > They also had a CD drive. > > > And a Laser Printer, and a Color Printer. > > And some rather good tie pins, and Cross Pens. > > And those special screwdriver things for getting the backplate off of Cubes > -- kinda handy, but I think someone has cornered the market in them (at Expo There is actually a very sweet site featuring scans of the old NeXT brochures, and all the specs (exept the turbos) at: http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html They are all JPEGS of 500k or bigger, but the site is quite fast (it took them 4-5 seconds to load) very nice, nearly made me cry... Bye, Martin Klocke martink@ika.rwth-aachen.de
From: scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 5 Feb 1997 16:57:15 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit.
From: Andrea <ancar@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Tue, 04 Feb 1997 19:05:42 -0800 Organization: ccny library Message-ID: <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I also had my suspicions about them they have not always been forthcoming on all the specs about a drive when you purchase one. THanks fo rthe warning! emon@gte.com wrote: > > Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive > as new. And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive > starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has > expired. > > --Emon
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Marcel Stegehuis <qqmar@oce.nl> Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32F5D8A5.3577@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 12:23:01 GMT Doug Phelps wrote: > > Jack wrote: > Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX > CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And > make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. > Jack ! Could you help me here, dual-voltage ? Why, how . . . -- __________________________________________________________________ Groetjes: Marcel Stegehuis E-mail: qqmar@oce.nl OCE Nederland B.V. Tel.: +31 77 3593172 P.O. Box 101 Fax.: +31 77 3595473 5900 MA Location: R&D, 3L08 Venlo, The Netherlands __________________________________________________________________ ****************************************************************** ** ** ** This note does not necessarily represent the position of ** ** OCE Nederland B.V. or ICT Automatisering B.V. ** ** Therefor no liability or responsibility ** ** for whatever will be accepted. ** ** ** ******************************************************************
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Black slab failing self-diagnostic tests, but still boots with manual help Date: 5 Feb 1997 02:23:49 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5d8qvl$21f@nntp.Stanford.EDU> We have a NeXTstation in our lab that is failing the "Extended Self-Diagnostic" tests at the beginning of the boot sequence. It gets through: FPU, SCC, SCSI, Enet, but then stops, and never completes the sequence RTC, Timer, Event Counter, Sound Out However, by getting to the ROM monitor (CMD-CMD-`), one can boot the machine by typing "b". The machine then works fine (though OmniWeb seems to crash the machine mysteriously). Can someone tell me what the failure might be (is it connected with RTC?). Are the OmniWeb crashes related to the hardware failure? Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks for your response, Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 5 Feb 1997 01:12:26 GMT Organization: None Message-ID: <5d8mpq$sql@krypto.zippo.com> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com>, ancar@mindspring.com says... > >I also had my suspicions about them >they have not always been forthcoming on all the specs about a drive >when you purchase one. >THanks fo rthe warning! It's best to be cautious if a vendor doesn't tell you all about the drive (it's origin) before you buy. There's a company that offers some really good HD prices (like 1.6 GB Connor or Maxtor drives for $158) and they tell you all about them before you buy: http://pcgenerations.com
From: "Andrew Kim" <akim@pop.cogsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Date: 4 Feb 97 21:52:05 -0800 Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.programmer, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.sysadmin --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong??? --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM>Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 (040 Black) by step by step instruction? Online help does not gives me a bit helpful. I have Supra Sonic and NeXTstation Color. I am very confused and I have a no idea what to do. Thank you for any suggestion. PS. I tried Gatekeeper, & Kermit. but never worked. What did I do wrong???</FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-0002BCFC-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-0002BCFC--
From: news@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <32F71DAE.4516@computer.at> Date: 5 Feb 1997 03:07:21 GMT Control: cancel <32F71DAE.4516@computer.at> Message-ID: <cancel.32F71DAE.4516@computer.at> Sender: "Webmaster" <Office@Computer.at> Spam cancelled by news@ibm.net
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <408f5520.17032259@news.zippo.com> Date: 6 Feb 1997 09:31:27 GMT Control: cancel <408f5520.17032259@news.zippo.com> Message-ID: <cancel.408f5520.17032259@news.zippo.com> Sender: cjtech@inreach.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: lars@andrej.rat.se (Lars Pehrsson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dell Optiplex pro - Onboard networkcard Date: 6 Feb 1997 11:01:35 GMT Organization: Research & Trade AB Message-ID: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> Has anyone succedded in installing nextstep on this machine and got the onboard networkcard going ?? Onboard networkcard is suppose to be 3-Com compatible. Thanks in advance Research & Trade AB Lars Pehrsson lars@rat.se
From: Keith Wiley <keithw@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 21:13:19 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Steven C. Slawin" <scslawin@gte.net> In-Reply-To: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > >
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 13:16:57 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5dclk9$4js@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <shiekh-0602971343530001@mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it> Andy Shiekh writes > In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu>, > Keith Wiley <keithw@wam.umd.edu> wrote: > > > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. > > It says IDE Now it does. It sure didn't last night. -- Jon Haveman
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 07:54:28 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <5dcka4$iv3@papoose.quick.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu>, Keith Wiley <keithw@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but >they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean The title region of the table contains the text "All drives are IDE (complete specs to be posted 2/8)" -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Benchmarking an MMX processor Date: 6 Feb 1997 08:27:52 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5dct9o$173@xmission.xmission.com> Has anyone benched an MMX processor running NEXTSTEP? I'm curious about how the greater L1 cache affects CPU-bound stuff, all things equal. Bifrost, are you listening? =) ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: jgee@eagle.co.la.ca.us (Jerry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:47:47 GMT Organization: eagle Message-ID: <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the going rate.
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 16:22:30 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" <bmittelstadt@sprintmail.com> writes: > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation > running NS 3.2 ? I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated.
From: Dennis Garity <garity@math.orst.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help on added hard drive Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 08:30:51 -0800 Organization: Mathematics Department Message-ID: <32FA073A.61E5@math.orst.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a Pentium 100 with a 1GB Seagate SCSI drive partitioned into a Next partition and a MSDOS partition. I just had installed an additional 2GB SCSI drive partitioned into two MSDOS partitions. After installing the new hard drive, I can no longer boot up into the Next operating sustem. I get a system panic message when trying. Any suggestions on what to do will be appreciated Dennis Garity Mathematics Department Oregon State University garity@math.orst.edu
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Imagine Series II Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 06:58:25 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp archives: ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_In formation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriver
From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:13:36 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Cc: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" > <bmittelstadt@sprintmail.com> writes: > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation > > running NS 3.2 ? > > I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard > drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated. In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt <tvz@Princeton.EDU> for the 2.1GB dirve: DORS-32160|DORS-32160-512|IBM DORS-32160-512:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw=a:\ :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD: (Sorry if this stanza shows up all screwed up in format, I'm having big problems trying to convince RadicalNews to respect the newlines I put in and stop reformating them.) Check it carefully before you put it in your /etc/disktab. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: 6 Feb 1997 18:20:10 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5dd7cq$p9s@library.airnews.net> References: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> Cc: amando@gcomm.com In <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> amando@gcomm.com wrote: > Hi! I have the same question regarding RAM type. I have a Nextstation > with only 24 MB of RAM and I would like to upgrade to 64 MB. > My nexstation has 4 sockets of 72 pins. Can I use memory from my PC and > install it on to the next? Yes, it should work. But check the FAQ first, 5.24 addresses the SIMM question: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: jbays@gmu.edu (John Bays) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <jbays-0602971212010001@156.80.175.13> Control: cancel <jbays-0602971212010001@156.80.175.13> Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:14:23 -0500 Organization: George Mason University Message-ID: <jbays-0602971214230001@156.80.175.13> cancel <jbays-0602971212010001@156.80.175.13>
From: Steve Yee <yeeware@gwis.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 11:22:31 -0500 Organization: Gateway to Internet Services Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.91.970206112128.24795A-100000@gwis.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> I visited the site also. My sentiment exactly. I'm looking for a scsi drive also, and couldn't tell what was what. SYee On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. > > . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... > .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. > . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ > Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * > University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * > email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * > world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** > > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > > > > > > > >
From: john.weil@uchsc.edu (John V. Weil) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 11:07:35 -0700 Organization: CVP Research Lab Message-ID: <john.weil-ya023680000602971107350001@tali.hsc.colorado.edu> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com>, scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. ALL DRIVES ARE IDE! -- John V. Weil
From: Gregory Junker <gjunker@%SPAM_REPELLANT%one.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 12:47:46 -0500 Organization: Federated Department Stores Message-ID: <5dd57a$a85@www.facs.federated-fds.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> <Pine.BSI.3.91.970206112128.24795A-100000@gwis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. And this is supposed to cover any questions we may have??????? Unfortunately, your not-so-disinterested say-so is hardly a concrete testimonial..... How about warranty terms? -- Any posts or replies, past or present, are not indication or statement of the position of Federated Department Stores on any subject, unless otherwise explicitly stated. They are only my own; this should be self-evident to most sentient beings. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To reply via email, remove (including %'s) the SPAM_REPELLANT from the Reply-To address --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory Junker - Systems Development Federated Department Stores
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Improving image on Next Monochrome monitor Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:09:29 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5dddpp$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> I have one of those dim NeXT monochrome monitors. Following some instructions posted to this group a few years back, I increased the white level to its max setting, which brightened things up a bit. A new problem is that images ghost hirozontally (dark images cast light `shadows' towards the right). Also, the contrast is not good, even though I checked the focus. Any solutions? What do the CUTOFF and V LIN controls do? -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: mleese@hudson.CS.unb.ca (Martin Leese - OMG) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:19:44 GMT Organization: Ocean Mapping Group, University of New Brunswick, Canada Message-ID: <5dded0$bj3@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> On 5 Feb 1997 16:57:15 GMT Steven C. Slawin (scslawin@gte.net) wrote: >> If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >> PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >> drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. Look: Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware, comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware, comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware This is SPAM. >> I >> know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. That I believe. Regards, Martin E-mail: mleese@omg.unb.ca WWW: http://www.omg.unb.ca/~mleese/ ______________________________________________________________________ Want to know how Ambisonics can improve the sound of your LPs and CDs? Read the Ambisonic Surround Sound FAQ. Version 2.7 now on my WWW page.
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 6 Feb 1997 20:20:33 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Cc: liuyi@crystalball.com In <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Yi Liu wrote: > In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a > Nextstation > > > running NS 3.2 ? > > In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of > automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a > /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt > <tvz@Princeton.EDU> for the 2.1GB dirve: > > DORS-32160|DORS-32160-512|IBM DORS-32160-512:\ > :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ > :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ > :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=localhost:rw=a:\ > :pa#0:sa#4194304:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ > :ia:ta=4.3BSD: And don't forget to first follow the instructions on NS #1533: http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/1533.htmld/1533.html Its a quick, quiet disk. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 12:31:22 -0600 From: billw@xpense.com Subject: Hard Drive help - Seagate ST5660NC Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <855167041.26248@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hello all! i am thinking about getting the following drive: Seagate SCSI-II ST5660NC will i be able to use it as the only drive in my non-turbo, non-color slab? thanks much! bill ps- it has an 80pin sca connector -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: "Mike Prendergast" <mprender@catpc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB H/D Qty 100 Date: 6 Feb 1997 22:03:48 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Message-ID: <01bc1478$f54fa5c0$888048cc@mike.protocom.com> FOR SALE Quantum Bigfoot 2.5GB H/D 100 pieces new Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 mprender@catpc.com
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Marcel Stegehuis <qqmar@oce.nl> Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Sender: news@oce.nl (The Daily News @ nntp01.oce.nl) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Oce Nederland B.V. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:07:34 GMT Matt Kauffman wrote: > > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. > > MMK > -- > just another human resource Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? -- __________________________________________________________________ Groetjes: Marcel Stegehuis E-mail: qqmar@oce.nl OCE Nederland B.V. Tel.: +31 77 3593172 P.O. Box 101 Fax.: +31 77 3595473 5900 MA Location: R&D, 3L08 Venlo, The Netherlands __________________________________________________________________ ****************************************************************** ** ** ** This note does not necessarily represent the position of ** ** OCE Nederland B.V. or ICT Automatisering B.V. ** ** Therefor no liability or responsibility ** ** for whatever will be accepted. ** ** ** ******************************************************************
From: "dgrant" <darren@oxford.i-way.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: 5 Feb 1997 18:18:27 GMT Organization: I-Way Limited, Reading Message-ID: <01bc1390$05c2c480$6fc081c2@Darren.i-way.co.uk> References: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> You should be able to use this but don't try and push it beyond 800*600 at 70Hz and use 8bit mode as you need more ram for any other mode. You will probably find that the display is not in powersave mode but overun protection due to the card using an unsupported frequency. Dont forget you can start up in basic VGA mode by typing config=Default at the Boot: prompt Gordon Slater <gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au> wrote in article <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au>... > All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save > mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. > > More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I > learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a > very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode > every time NEXT STEP booted. > > The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an > integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? > > If the urge strikes you to tease me about the shity video card or the > PC I own, refrain, and recommend the most IDEAL video card for NEXT > STEP. > > One last thought... > > Who loves you babe? Anyone with a credit card! > >
From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: 5 Feb 1997 20:25:44 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> I need to upgrade the RAM in my Nextstation Turbo. I have read the FAQ and the note on NextAnswers (both very helpful). I currently have 24 MB RAM (8+8+4+4) and would like to take it to 64 MB (32+32). My question is - will EDO RAM work in the Turbo? I want to buy the latest/fastest RAM that will work in the TURBO so that I can later use the RAM in an NS/INtel machine as well. Thanks for your help. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Millenium PowerDoc Edition? Date: 6 Feb 1997 23:24:19 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5ddp73$10u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Is anyone currently using the PowerDoc edition of the Matrox Millenium? A sales rep from Matrox said it "should work" but I would like someone to say "yes it definitely works." Thanks, -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger
From: "B.MacDonald" <burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:15:01 +0000 Organization: poor Distribution: world Message-ID: <fnKmhRAlfl+yEwxL@nthwd.demon.co.uk> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com>, "Steven C. Slawin" <scslawin@gte.net> writes >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > No doubt! -- B.MacDonald, Northwood, Middlesex, UK E-mail: burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk burns@dircon.co.uk
From: "B.MacDonald" <burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 22:18:17 +0000 Organization: poor Distribution: world Message-ID: <jnJpRVApil+yEwWZ@nthwd.demon.co.uk> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In article <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net>, Jerry <jgee@eagle.co.la.ca.us> writes >scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > >>If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out >>PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard >>drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I >>know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > >That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the >best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the >going rate. > Perhaps that's where they came from. $39/drive is a nice profit. -- B.MacDonald, Northwood, Middlesex, UK E-mail: burns@nthwd.demon.co.uk burns@dircon.co.uk
From: Michael Taylor <mtaylor@aw.sgi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 15:53:14 -0500 Organization: Alias|Wavefront Message-ID: <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now > > just what this MMX thing is..... > > A Wintel ploy to relieve you of more disposable income to gain > "multimedia" enhancements" of highly questionable worth. MMX is a little more than that. Admittedly, you won't notice any difference until you get software that supports it. Here's the general idea. In most multi-media applications, the data is made up of small values. Modern processors can do 64-bit operations, but this doesn't help much for doing sound (mostly 16-bit values), 24-bit graphics (3 bit values per pixel), etc. But, what if you could use your 64-bit operations to do operations on several smaller values at the same time (eg. do math on four 16 bit values at once). In this case, you can get a 4 times speed increase in processing digital sound. That's the basic concept. However, it won't speed up any applications that aren't written specifically to support this. The new MMX processors will at least have the effect of pushing down the prices on older non-MMX models. /\/\ike -- /\/\ike Taylor | Mail: mtaylor@aw.sgi.com Alias|Wavefront Toronto | Voice: (416) 362-8558 x8740 Developer, API Team =D--' http://reality.sgi.com/mtaylor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199702042259.RAA02530@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 56651da2a9a119ef0a0810f46094941a - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 97 17:59:52 -0500 Subject: Re: Looking for NeXT station Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 56651da2a9a119ef0a0810f46094941a - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary You might have looked in comp.sys.next.marketplace and seen this: > >From: sedwards@fred.net (DEEPSPACE TECH.)>Subject: FS:NEXTSTATIONS $270 and up >Date: 27 Jan 1997 18:16:56 GMT >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace > > We just received another load of Next hardware. > > MONO STATIONS 8mb RAM,105 HD, 17" Megapixel Display, > Keyboard and mouse for $270.00 > > MONO TURBOS 8mb RAM, 250mb HD, 17 Megapixel Display, > Keyboard, and Mouse for $470.00 > > COLOR TURBOS 16mb RAM, 250mb HD, 17" Color Monitor, > Keyboard, Sound Box, Mouse, Starting at $949.00 > > Also we have a large selection of parts and > PRINTERS. See our website: > > www.deepspacetech.com TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Khanh P. Nguyen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: increase the vertical refresh rate Date: 5 Feb 1997 14:42:29 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Distribution: world Message-ID: <5da68l$7ju@news.tuwien.ac.at> Hi all, Does anyone know how to increase the vertical refresh rate in the driver? We use MatroxMilennium (8MB) and an Eizo screen with max hor. frequency of 90KHz. For true color at 1200x1024, the driver supports only 90Hz (which is out-of-range for the monitor) and 75Hz. When using 75Hz mode, the monitor reports as only 73.5 Hz and 78.4 KHz (note that these values don't fix each other: 73.5 x 1024 = 74.5 KHz and 78.4KHz/1024=76.56 Hz) We would like to increase the vertical refresh rate to about 85 Hz, so it's better for the users. Such a thing can be done in Windows (although I don't like it too, I had to mention here). But in OpenStep (4.0) how can I do it? Another thing with the driver (we think that it's a bug in the driver) is something after rebooting the machine, the horizontal frequency is doubled (thanks God we have a good monitor that automatically cut the signal off and ring it alarm sound). The only thing we can do in such a situation is power off the machine, wait for 5 minutes (drink a coffee) and reboot it again (if it doesn't work, drink another coffee and so on, hope that you don't have to drink so much coffee). Is there any better solution? The last check in NextAnswer shows no newer driver. All hints are appreciated. Thanks very much, Khanh Nguyen (Vienna University of Technology)
From: jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to get the most out of 2 GB drive? Date: 7 Feb 1997 00:49:30 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> I am trying to use a 2GB disk as my boot disk and everything installed fine but when I login the system tells me I only have a 1 GB disk. How do I format the disk to get all the space? Thanks. -- John Stanhope jehu@vt.edu
From: gh@smart.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Ethernet cards Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 23:54:39 -0500 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <32FAB58F.7743@smart.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do the following cards work equally well with OS 4.0? Are there problems with any of them? Intel EtherExpress 3Com Etherlink III 3Com Etherlink II SMC Elite 16 Ultra
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 21:12:23 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180000502972112230001@news.sprynet.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> <5d35r0$1o18@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970203000946.17007B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.970203000946.17007B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu>, Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2 Feb 1997 spammers@ruin.the.internet wrote: > >> Now to the more important issues.. What does ADB get you? Well >> I havn't tried it yet but I would assume at some point I can put Mac >> ADB keyboard & Mouse on the (perhaps I should to preserve >> the originals) machine. > >I know that Mac mice work fine. Multi-button mice don't work right (well, >only the main button works under NEXTSTEP). Now that I think about it, >older Kensington TurboMouse trackballs (the ones you configure with >DIP switches) might be able to use the second button as double-click or >command-Z under NEXTSTEP, but I haven't tried it yet. I know you can't >simulate the right NeXT mouse button. C'est la vie. As I mentioned in another post the second and third buttons on the Contour mouse do work. But you cannot set them up to do the Next mouse button thing of bringing up the menu. The second/third buttons do work for lock dragging, that is one click to start drag, second click to end drag, thus saving pressing during the drag. Strangely ( to me) the acceleration coefficient of the third button is flat making for finer control in the dragging ( or whatever you are doing with the locked/pressed button). The second button has normal mouse acceleration/scaling. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: Pohl Longsine <pohl@screaming.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: PPP Help!!! Anyone? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 10:19:05 -0600 Organization: mementech, inc. Message-ID: <32F8B2F9.54E682D1@screaming.org> References: <AF1D600C-2BE8A@207.13.170.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Andrew Kim wrote: > Is there any one can tell me how to set up PPP for OpenStep 4.0 > (040 Black) by step by step instruction? I'd like to point out here that it's really bad form to crosspost support questions to all of the comp.sys.next.* groups. Be more selective, please. -- pohl@screaming.org |"Reality is that which when you stop believing http://screaming.org/ | in it doesn't go away." -- Philip K. Dick ----------------------+---------------------------------------------- OpenStep Inferno Java | Making the world safe for platform diversity.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: piers@ilink.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: Re: Imagine Series II Message-ID: <E54z6F.MBB@mediahaus.de> Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) References: <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 1997 15:32:39 GMT In article <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video > card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is > not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was > apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this > beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp > archives: > > > ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_I nformation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriv er DriverKit in 4.x is still 3.3 (that's why you need 3.3 to develop 4.x drivers!), so every 3.3 driver should work under 4.x. I've been using the Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video card with 4 megs of VRAM with the mentioned beta driver for almost a month now, both under 3.3 and 4.1. Unfortunately, my board was too blurry (not a driver problem, this was a problem under Windows as well), so I returned it and am currently waiting for the replacement board (having to resort to a measly ATI 2 MB video card in the meantime). Regards Piers -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@ilink.de -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 12:39:01 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E58GH2.58z@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> In article <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> mgr@aggroup.com (Michael Russell) writes: > On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: > > >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a > >localtalk connector? > > you can use Farallon's PhoneNet > This costs money, though > > One such solution is to connect to the printer via its serial port - However this may be slow, as they (well mine!) only support 9600 baud. Alternative cheap solution - if you've got a Mac, conmnect it to the localtalk (obviously). You can then connect the mac via tcp to the NeXT and run lpdemon on the Mac. Ideally you'd connect the Mac to NeXT via ether, but that cost money - VERY cheap solution is to use PPP. The NeXT is still talking to the printer via its serial line, but you can now put the speed up. $am
From: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Date: 07 Feb 1997 15:02:18 +0000 Organization: Scarlet Score For Mescalero Sender: rji@puma.inmos.co.uk Message-ID: <dz9150vev9.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk> Hi, Got the chance of picking up a cheap NeXTStation, except the shipping cost of the monitor to from US -> Europe. So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour NeXT boxes ? Any info would be helpful (mail direct/post newsgroup), Thanks, Richard. rji@bristol.st.com
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dimension Board, does it capture video Date: 7 Feb 1997 08:10:13 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dfk55$96@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> In article <5d1bka$tr4@camel4.mindspring.com> cybobob@mindspring.com (Nicholas Sharpe) writes: > I was looking at www.orb.com and under a NeXT Dimension Turbo Cube, it > says "video in/out". Does this mean I can watch tv and capture video > from a vcr? If so, what format can I save the movie as? The ND board can display live video on it's display, and can capture still frames, which are saved as TIFF files. The NeXTTV demo app supports these operations. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: Jay Thorne <jay@result.com> Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 09:01:45 -0800 Organization: The Net Result Message-ID: <32FB5FF9.60593A29@result.com> References: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Michael Russell <mgr@aggroup.com> Michael Russell wrote: > > On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: > > >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a > >localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well > >as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible > >with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to > >do the trick? Do you have an ethernet mac? if you do, you can use it to be the bridge. Here's what I did: I installed Apple's laserwriter bridge software, and patched it so it worked on Open Transport (patch is in info-mac somewhere). Then I got the latest version of netatalk (1.4b2), and configured papd/lpd to talk to the printer. It took a restart to get netatalk seeing the right appletalk zones, and I had to make sure the ascii->postscript filter was working right, but lpr -h works perfectly now, even from Netscape. If you can find the card, Linux 2.1.25 now supports localtalk cards. I have not used it though. I used the farallon cards on some client sites, and they work ok, though like appletalk in general, its not terribly fast. On more "full" ix86 boxen, the lack of settable interrrupts on the early cards was a bit of a pain. I betcha you could get one of those cards from the used/refurb dealers (Like Shreve Systems in Shreveport LA) Last but not least is an actual hardware router. Eeewww. They want actual $$$ for these things. Cheapest one I saw was from Asante, only allows PAP thru for up to 4 printers, $300 or less. -- Jay Thorne, mailto:jay@result.com http://net.result.com the Net Result System Services
From: Gary Beeton <beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:22:05 -0600 Organization: Innovation Place Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207111916.24666B-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> On Thu, 6 Feb 1997, Jerry wrote: > scslawin@gte.net (Steven C. Slawin) wrote: > > >If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > >PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > >drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > >know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the > best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the > going rate. I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? -- Gary Beeton --
From: Gary Beeton <beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 11:39:45 -0600 Organization: Innovation Place Message-ID: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207112603.24666C-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. The fellow I talked to at PCGenerations was very helpfull when I called to enquire. I was told that all of the blowout priced drives are new OEM surplus 3.5inch internal IDE and of recent technology. Most drive have 3 month waranty (upgradable to 1 year for a fee). The 1.6GB Maxtor that I was interested in is a 7000 series drive (*full* specs are available on the Maxtor web site). What more information could you possibly want for heaven's sake :) I have no affiliation to PCGenerations. -- Gary Beeton --
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Message-ID: <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> Date: 28 Jan 97 22:08:38 GMT References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> Organization: Digital Fix Development In-Reply-To: <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> >At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >NeXTstation (ADB). I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for several months. The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped is amazing. Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or so for one. Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 7 Feb 1997 10:39:05 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dfss9$5j7@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) writes: > Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? > You can use the older NeXT keyboard and mouse with an ADB NeXT system, if you also replace the Sound Box (or monitor sound card for mono systems) with the non-ADB version. The sound card (which contains the keyboard connector), keyboard, and mouse need to be changed as a set. Turbo hardware owners with non-ADB keyboards and mice MAY be able to use ADB hardware, if they have both a later model ROM (v3.3 74 or later recommended) and a late model cable between the CPU and Sound Box/Monitor (which has the extra conductor for ADB signalling). Of course, they'll need the ADB Sound Box or Monitor, and ADB keyboard and mice. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: ab@purdue.edu (Allen Braunsdorf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Date: 7 Feb 1997 19:13:33 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5dfust$e1h@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <dz9150vev9.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk> rji@puma.inmos.co.uk (Richard Ingram) wrote: >So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi >monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour >NeXT boxes ? We tried some Sun monitors on a Turbo Color slab here and couldn't get them to work. Somebody has a cable to hook up a PC monitor, and it ought to be easy to get one of those that'll scan at the right rate these days (though I know it's not as cheap as using something you've already got!). You just need to find a monitor that'll scan at the right rate. Some Sun monitors might work, but the Sony ones we had didn't. ab
From: Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: increase the vertical refresh rate Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:03:40 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5dchas$af0@news.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5da68l$7ju@news.tuwien.ac.at> Originator: bertl@gemini Khanh P. Nguyen <knguyen@ariane.nt.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > We use MatroxMilennium (8MB) > ... > Another thing with the driver (we think that it's a bug in the > driver) is something after rebooting the machine, the horizontal > frequency is doubled ... The only thing we can do in such a > situation is power off the machine, wait for 5 minutes ... and > reboot it again I have to deal with the same problem using a MatroxMilennium (4MB). I also have to boot my machine twice when it was powered down for a while (e.g. over night). The first boot NEVER works. The second time it works nearly always, but I'm waiting only for a few seconds after powering off. Maybe you shouldn't wait that long (5 minutes). > All hints are appreciated. I'm also waiting for a fixed driver - or any hints... - N.C. _________________________________________________________________ Norbert C. Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> NEXTSTEP / OpenStep Software Development NeXTmail preferred, MIME is welcome Please finger for PGP public key
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Improving image on Next Monochrome monitor Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E58vuu.AI6@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:11:17 GMT References: <5dddpp$eck@cnn.princeton.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5dddpp$eck@cnn.princeton.edu>, Timothy Van Zandt <tvz@Princeton.EDU> wrote: >I have one of those dim NeXT monochrome monitors. >Following some instructions posted to this group a few >years back, I increased the white level to its max setting, >which brightened things up a bit. A new problem is that images >ghost hirozontally (dark images cast light `shadows' towards >the right). This is a common phenomenon in some CRTs, although I wouldn't trust myself to explain its cause exactly. I don't think there's much you can do for your monitor short of either getting a new tube or finding someone with a "zapitator" to fix it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Mono/8bit/Colour on NeXTStation ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E58vy8.8s7@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 1997 18:13:20 GMT References: <dz9150vev9.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <dz9150vev9.fsf@puma.inmos.co.uk>, Richard Ingram <rji@puma.inmos.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, > >Got the chance of picking up a cheap NeXTStation, except the shipping cost >of the monitor to from US -> Europe. > >So I was wondering if the old Sun Mono or 8 bit greyscale Philips/Hitachi >monitors can be used on mono NeXT's or the 19" Sony colour monitors on colour >NeXT boxes ? > Other brands of colour monitors can be used on colour systems, provided you have the Sound Box to connect the keyboard/mouse, etc. However, you're pretty much stuck for mono machines. On these machines the guts of the keyboard, mouse, and audio interfaces are in the monitor. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: tomi@shinto.nbg.sub.org (Thomas Engel) Subject: NeXTstation won't power down Message-ID: <E56K06.HB@shinto.nbg.sub.org> Sender: news@shinto.nbg.sub.org Organization: STEPeople's home (A NUGI member) Date: Thu, 6 Feb 1997 12:00:05 GMT Hi, since almost 2 month the behavior of one NeXTstation Turbo (NS 3.3/Patched) is getting stranger. I know that a system ofter refused to shut down if there are some zombie processes which can not be killed or refuse to die. (e.g. an ungracefully interrupted printer driver oft was the cause on my machine) But on this particular machine the behaviors seem to result from something different. When you power off the machine - it refuses to do so - you go into NNI and power it off with "brute" force - the system reboots and does its "fsck" - you power it of from the loginpanel rigth away (without login into the system to launch any other processes). - ...and it will again refuse to power of ??? I just don't understand that. While this usually happened seldomly (and we blamed it on the printer driver)...it now happens more often. Still unpredictable when it will happen, but it happens even when no communication with any serial port has happene (neither modem nor printer) Is this a software issue or a hardware thing (low battery ??) I seriously don't know how to explain this behaviour to my "customer". Any help is appreciated. Aloha Tomi
From: Damir Frkovic <damir@pixar.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trouble with NeXT 17" monitor... Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 11:52:55 -0800 Organization: Pixar Message-ID: <32FB8817.2C67@pixar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 17' NeXT (FIMI) monitor is showing some strange and distressing symptoms. When I first turn it on it makes a high pitched buzzing noise and the image is all garbled and streaky but only in the horizontal direction. After a few minutes as the monitor warms up the noise goes away and the screen becomes more visible as a double image which slowly merges and settles down into a normal display. After its warm, the screen looks fine, however this strange warm-up process is getting longer and longer every time I turn the monitor on and off, I suspect it will eventually just not work anymore. Anybody have any ideas or experience with this problem? Any info would be most appreciated. damir@pixar.com
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 6 Feb 1997 12:23:57 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5dcigt$1jv@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> They might just bloody well finish the web page before you go advertising it. Nothing - except for the hard drive blowout - appears to be clickable....even though it clearly will be when somebody gets around to it.....putting out web pages and advertising them before they are done is just plain annoying. Keith Wiley <keithw@wam.umd.edu> writes > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. > > . . .. ... ..... ........ ............. ..................... > .. ... ..... ....... ........... ............. ................. > . .. .... ........ ................ ................................ > Keith Wiley, Electrogenetic Engineer * > University of Maryland at College Park * * * * * * > email: keithw@wam.umd.edu *** ** * * ** * > world wide web: http://www.wam.umd.edu/~keithw * ** ** *** > > > On 5 Feb 1997, Steven C. Slawin wrote: > > > If you're looking for a hard drive and have a chance, check out > > PCGenerations (http://pcgenerations.com). They've got a terrific hard > > drive blowout sale going on, and they're a company you can trust. I > > know, because I'm aquainted with the owner of the outfit. > > > > > >
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help adding external drive Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:51:10 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-0702971851110001@bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com> Hi All. I attached a Mac SCSI external drive to my NeXT Station. It is part of a chain that includes a Zip drive and a CD-ROM. Each have unique ids as follows: Zip #5 CD-ROM #2 Ext SCSI Drive #6 When the SCSI is turned on and I boot the NeXT, I receive the following: Booting SCSI Target 0, LUN 0 Bad Version ox45520200 Bad Version oxo Bad Version oxo Bad Version oxo Bad Label Next> From there, being totally new to this, I am lost. I can power it down, turn off the external drive, and it powers up just fine. BTW--the external drive is terminated. It was formatted for Mac. Any help? Thanks, John Byrne
From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Question about memory configuration Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 14:18:56 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <yblock-0702971418570001@60.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> I have a Next Turbo Color computer with 16MB (2 8MB SIMMs) of memory. I want to upgrade it to 64MB. - Should I get 2 32MB SIMMs and take off the 2 8MB SIMMs? or - Do I need to get 4 16MB SIMMS? Carlos.
From: Dean Reece <dean.reece@eng.sun.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Imagine Series II Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 13:09:54 -0800 Organization: JavaSoft Message-ID: <32FB9A22.630F@eng.sun.com> References: <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <E54z6F.MBB@mediahaus.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Piers Uso Walter wrote: > > In article <msg29722.thr-1d3d79.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> > herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > > I have placed an order for an Number Nine Imagine 128 Series II video > > card with 4 megs of VRAM. According to NeXTAnswers, the series II is > > not yet supported by the 4.0 drivers, and the new release was > > apparently scheduled for Q3 96. Ask_Next warns against using this > > beta which John Kheit (Thanks John!) pointed out to me in the ftp > > archives: > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/Files/NEXTSTEP/Intel_Configuration_I > nformation/Drivers/3.3_Drivers/Beta/2488_Number9Imagine128S2DisplayDriv > er > > DriverKit in 4.x is still 3.3 (that's why you need 3.3 to develop 4.x > drivers!), so every 3.3 driver should work under 4.x. Warning, this is NOT true! There are drivers that are NOT cross compatible, and installing them will hose your system badly. Particularly the EISABus driver (and the other bus drivers). These drivers have much more intimate knowledge of the kernel than is provided by driverKit, so remember: Always use a driver of the same major version as the kernel If one is not available, then only try a different version if you: a) ... know the driver is not needed for a rescue operation (*Bus, PS2Keyboard, perhaps Floppy) b) ... have backups of your configuration & drivers c) ... know how to restore these backups from single-user mode In many cases (i.e., video) booting "config=Default" will get you to the point that you can run Configure.app, but remember that replacing any driver in your default configuration could render this useless. All this being said, Piers' comment is basically correct. 3.3 Drivers are generally safe to use on 4.x - just be warned that there are some very nasty exceptions. Best of luck! -Dean
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What type of RAM in Nextstation Turbo? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 15:56:01 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <32F9E2F2.4156@gcomm.com> References: <5daqc8$s20@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! I have the same question regarding RAM type. I have a Nextstation with only 24 MB of RAM and I would like to upgrade to 64 MB. My nexstation has 4 sockets of 72 pins. Can I use memory from my PC and install it on to the next? TIA Amando Blasco
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 18:00:52 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? Any information would be appreciated. Sincere thanks, -Ron
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:22:30 GMT Organization: Cygnus Solutions Message-ID: <5dgdfm$o98$1@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cc: rmd103@psu.edu In <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> RM DAscenzo wrote: > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron > the Next web page has good info. Go to www.next.com, click on openstep, click on "products" on the left margin, then click on "openstep for mach". Down at the bottom of THAT page is the hardware compatability guides and driver listings. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com http://www.cygnus.com/~jrudd =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Smalltalk == Astronaut's tools. Awkward at first, but exceptional design C++ == A hammer. A SLEDGEHAMMER. Not cast metal, a big rock on a stick.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Stephan Prock <smp8a@virginia.edu> Subject: External Hard Drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32FBEECB.6A19@virginia.edu> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Virginia References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970130011459.26525A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 03:11:07 GMT How can I determine which external hard drives will be compatible with my NeXT Turbostation. I'm interested in the APS Q 1280 by I'm not sure about the "Fireball TM mechanism." Any info would be greatly appreciated. S. Prock
From: leivian@primenet.com (Bob Leivian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz formated size Date: 7 Feb 1997 23:02:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I just added a Jaz drive to my next, it works fine but I had a question I reformated the 1 gig drive from a PC filesystem to a NeXT file system and mounted it, 'df' said size=998 meg, but the browser said only 877 meg was available when the disk was empty I shouldn't complain because I was living with only 250 meg before but... is this normal, was a partition reserved for a bootable disk swap area where did that 121 meg go
From: Bob Cook <bobcook@rhea.slac.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Question about memory configuration Date: 07 Feb 1997 17:54:04 -0800 Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center Message-ID: <2rd8ucvz9f.fsf@rhea.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> References: <yblock-0702971418570001@60.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) writes: > I have a Next Turbo Color computer with 16MB (2 8MB SIMMs) of memory. I > want to upgrade it to 64MB. > - Should I get 2 32MB SIMMs and take off the 2 8MB SIMMs? or > - Do I need to get 4 16MB SIMMS? What I did in almost the same circumstances was to get 2 32MB SIMMs and keep the 2 8MB ones. I now run with 80MB. -- Bob Cook (415) 926-2769 bobcook@slac.stanford.edu Stanford Linear Accelerator Center PGP public key: ftp://ftp.slac.stanford.edu/pgp/bobcook/bobcook.publickey
From: "James A. Meyer" <jammeyer@socketis.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hard Subject: Forsale Pentium 120 MHz Date: 8 Feb 1997 05:20:41 GMT Organization: SOCKET Internet Services INN Site Message-ID: <01bc1576$49cfa340$c15ef2cd@jammeyer> Pentium 120 with heat sink and fan. $150 or best offer.
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 05:10:46 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous SCSI transfer? Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support asynch... >In <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> Yi Liu wrote: >> In <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Narendra Batra wrote: > >> > > Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a >> Nextstation >> > > running NS 3.2 ? > >> >> In NS3.3, this drive (2.1GB version, right?) will be taken care of >> automagically by BuildDisk.app. For NS3.2, you will need add a >> /etc/disktab entry, here's one from Timothy Van Zandt (snip) -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: Ivar Eitr-Drengr <ivar@iquest.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MTech R528 board and MMX ? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 04:31:26 -0500 Organization: IQuest Internet, Inc. Message-ID: <32FC47ED.3BB6@iquest.net> References: <32f214d4.11683182@news.pgh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------73B5BB1518B0" ------------73B5BB1518B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Yes it does support MMX . Look here http://www.mtiusa.com/p5.htm Later Ivar ------------73B5BB1518B0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT>Yes it does support MMX . Look here http://www.mtiusa.com/p5.htm</DT> <DT>Later Ivar</DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------73B5BB1518B0--
From: liuyi@crystalball.com (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 08:07:58 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Cc: me@nextbox.enteract.com In <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Kevin Coffee wrote: > Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous SCSI > transfer? > > Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support > asynch... I don't know, but it's working in my Cube. :) I'm pretty sure that the DORS-32160 (aka Ultrastar ES) supports async mode, and there was a guy who was using the 7200rpm drive (Ultrastar XP) in his NeXT Cube. I've read about IBM's async problems in the FAQ and these groups, but those drives that have this problem aren't the Ultrastar ES. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: shiekh@ictp.trieste.it (Andy Shiekh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Thu, 06 Feb 1997 13:43:53 +0200 Organization: ICTP Message-ID: <shiekh-0602971343530001@mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> In article <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu>, Keith Wiley <keithw@wam.umd.edu> wrote: > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. It says IDE
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 15:26:20 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5di5us$qj2@eve.enteract.com> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> <5dd70g$p9s@library.airnews.net> <5ddeeh$eck@cnn.Princeton.EDU> <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> In-Reply-To: <5dhc8u$oke@library.airnews.net> Emprirical evidence is frequently the best ;-) FWIW, I called a reseller to ask about that model just last week and they didn't know. I also called IBM tech support and the person who answered the phone didn't know either. (I found that DeskStarXP - aka DPES-31080 - does not, but only after I'd bought one.) otherwise the DORS-32160 has great specs... -Kevin On 02/07/97, Yi Liu wrote: >In <5dh1sm$dh9@eve.enteract.com> Kevin Coffee wrote: >> Are you certain that the IBM DORS-32160 supports asynchronous >SCSI >> transfer? >> >> Every recent IBM drive I've inquired about seems not to support >> asynch... > >I don't know, but it's working in my Cube. :) > >I'm pretty sure that the DORS-32160 (aka Ultrastar ES) supports >async mode, and there was a guy who was using the 7200rpm drive >(Ultrastar XP) in his NeXT Cube. > >I've read about IBM's async problems in the FAQ and these groups, >but those drives that have this problem aren't the Ultrastar ES. > >liuyi >-- >Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII} -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5dijoq$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:05:49 GMT Control: cancel <5dijoq$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5dijoq$nhu@netnews.hinet.net> Sender: chsu@from.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net (The Rev. James David Meacham) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cheapest Laptop for NS? Date: 8 Feb 1997 22:41:35 GMT Organization: JLC-net, Milford NH Message-ID: <5divev$921@mozart.jlc.net> Hi All, I'm considering buying a 486 laptop to run NS. I've got a turbo color on my desk, and I'm getting sick of doing conversions from stuff on my Mac Powerbook. Does anyone know what the least expensive intel NS compatible laptop is? Doesn't even have to be color, really, just greyscale would be OK Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. Peace, James -- The Rev. James David Meacham First Unitarian Congregational Society of Wilton Center, NH e-mail:jmeacham@meacham.jlc.net 603-654-9518 (Church) 603-654-9590(Home) 603-654-2248(fax) Church Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/index.html Personal Home Page: http://www.jlc.net/~jmeacham/jameshome.html
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <32fcdb99.0@news.cias.net> Date: 8 Feb 1997 20:43:35 GMT Control: cancel <32fcdb99.0@news.cias.net> Message-ID: <cancel.32fcdb99.0@news.cias.net> Sender: xxxhot@*(^$#>(noreply).com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: Mike Curtis <tonka@argonet.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: Sat, 08 Feb 1997 22:06:02 GMT Organization: ArgoNet, but does not reflect its views Distribution: world Message-ID: <na.116a994759.a70220tonka@argonet.co.uk> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207111916.24666B-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207111916.24666B-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca>, Gary Beeton <beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca> wrote: > I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web > auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or > refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? You might try contacting David Holden at APDL, info@apdl.co.uk Some months ago I bought an Acorn formatted 1Gb IBM SCSI2 drive (OK, not brand new but close) from him for 155UKP which at the time was a bloody good price. -- _____ _ |_ _|__ _ __ | | ____ _ tonka@argonet.co.uk | |/ _ \| '_ \| |/ / _` | Mike Curtis, ZFC A, Chester | | (_) | | | | < (_| | New year's resolution:- |_|\___/|_| |_|_|\_\__,_| Failed - Doh!
From: carpena@icia.rcanaria.es (Rafael Munoz-Carpena) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Where to Get NS/Black + CD-ROM drive + SCSI adapter? Date: 9 Feb 1997 03:17:14 GMT Organization: Instituto Canario de Investigaciones Agrarias -ICIA Message-ID: <5djfjq$k4t@uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu> References: <ibhan-0302971305430001@infobhan.med.harvard.edu> Cc: ibhan@student.med.harvard.edu In <ibhan-0302971305430001@infobhan.med.harvard.edu> Ishir Bhan wrote: .... > Ideally, I'd like to get OpenStep/Mach 4.1, but I really don't want to > spend much money on it. Is there anywhere to get it for less than $300? > I just got the academic package Openstep 4.1 for Intel (User/dev/EOF) for $299 from Optimal Object: 1-800-452-7608. I see from your address the you are at academia so I think you can get it too. Rafa
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fishbone@inforamp.net (nobody@home) Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <32fe6edc.4984183@news2.compulink.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Date: 9 Feb 97 06:31:20 UTC On Tue, 4 Feb 1997 08:07:34 GMT, Marcel Stegehuis <qqmar@oce.nl> wrote: >Matt Kauffman wrote: >> >> If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a >> P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board >> compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. >> >> MMK >> -- >> just another human resource >Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good >be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? >-- > Unfortunately NO. This is because of the voltage on the new MMX chips. They are 2.8 volts so it means either getting a new motherboard or buying a voltage regulator. AVortex
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 07:21:03 -0600 From: okrina@cybertron.at Subject: WTB: NeXT-Station Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Message-ID: <855494130.1152@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Hi! I am searching for a NeXT-station/Mono Please make it affordable and send your offers to okrina@cybertron.at -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Can I use EDO RAM in NeXT turbo Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:26:38 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo, we ordered 32MB Simms (70ns) for our NeXT turbo ADB systems. Two of the chips that arrived are labeled as EDO RAM. Can those be used in the ADB NeXTstation Turbo? I think not, I just want some other experiences and opinions, if possible. Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT monitor on PowerMac Date: 9 Feb 1997 15:58:14 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5dks6m$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hallo, how difficult is it to use the NeXT color monitor (black hardware) on a PowerMac? We've heard some info about connecting it to an Intel PC [*1], but the NeXTapple [*2] merger makes the PowerMac hardware platform more interesting than before. Thanks, Rudy ----- *1 where are the times when these were called IBM PC's ... *2 aka MacMach or OpenApple [you noticed the missing bite in the Apple's logo, right?] :-))) -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 11:00:39 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? Thanks, Jason
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help installing disk Date: 8 Feb 1997 19:45:04 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5dil40$slu@news.grolier.fr> References: <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> <5dd0g7$3n1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) wrote: >In article <01bc1254$68b77e60$1009020a@dope> "William J. Mittelstadt" ><bmittelstadt@sprintmail.com> writes: >> Has anyone had any luck installing a IBM DORS-32160 in a Nextstation >> running NS 3.2 ? > >I am also thinking of buying this disk and install it as second hard >drive. Any suggestions to avoid any pitfalls will be greatly appreciated. I am using an "IBM DFRSS4F Rev 4B4B", a 4GB drive for several months. It works fine in external. I can't make it works *inside* my slab. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 64M Ram and NS system panic? Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 15:50:53 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <32FE38A3.4BA@wam.umd.edu> References: <5d6btl$6vn@worak.kaist.ac.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Account wrote: > slot 1 EDO > slot 2 EDO System Panic > slot 3 Normal > slot 4 Normal > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 Normal System Panic > slot 3 EDO > slot 4 EDO > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 EDO System Panic > slot 3 Normal > slot 4 EDO > > slot 1 EDO > slot 2 EDO No problem.. > slot 3 Vacant > slot 4 Vacant > > slot 1 Normal > slot 2 Normal No problem > slot 3 Vacant > slot 4 Vacant > If you notice, all the panics occur when you try to mix EDO and normal ram. I suspect that your motherboard cannot handle both EDO and normal DRAM at the same time. RAM is cheap, get another bank of EDO or normal DRAM and install the same kind of RAM in all four banks. - Jeff Dutky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help: Can I use EDO RAM in NeXT turbo Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5CnJ3.nry@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 19:01:51 GMT References: <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5dkqbe$2lo4@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Rudolf B. Blazek <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote: >Hallo, > we ordered 32MB Simms (70ns) for our NeXT turbo ADB systems. Two of the >chips that arrived are labeled as EDO RAM. > >Can those be used in the ADB NeXTstation Turbo? I think not, I just want some >other experiences and opinions, if possible. > Should be fine. EDO works just like non-EDO RAM if the hardware doesn't take advantage of its "EDO-ness". -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5Cr2I.ArJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 20:18:18 GMT References: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com>, Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> wrote: >Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? > No, you can't. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: daydream and colorspace? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:24:17 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5dm7th$p6b@eve.enteract.com> I'm using Quix's daydream on a (recently acquired) Turbo Color and have run into problems with Photoshop. It appears that the color space is not mapping properly - images do not display properly and the colorspace 'picker' does not display the expected color wheel model (for hue, saturation and value). I'm not sure exactly what is being represented by the picker, but it doesn't look like an RGB model. Q: what is the latest rev of the daydream software? (the info panel reports that this is 2.1.1) Q: is it compatible with Photoshop 3.x? thanks, -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: NeXTstation Resolution? Date: 10 Feb 1997 04:26:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dm82a$lkn@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com> <E5Cr2I.ArJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: > In article <32FDAE57.7882@us.oracle.com>, > Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> wrote: > >Can I change the resolution displyed by my NeXTstation Mono? > > > > No, you can't. This is true if additional resolution is desired, but less resolution used to be configurable (haven't tried to do this recently). When NS/Intel was first released and common screen resolution dropped to 1024x768, we set our black hardware to run at 1024x768 to see how our large windows looked at that resolution. This was done by setting the bounds property in NetInfo: % nidump -r /localconfig/screens/MegaPixel /nextcube name = MegaPixel; _writers = "*"; active = 0; bounds = "0 1120 0 832"; slot = 0; unit = 0; -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "Kevin P. Hannan" <khannan@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cyrix & AMD vs. Intel (was Re: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard) Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 05:48:36 -0500 Organization: AutoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <32FEFD04.4D52@ibm.net> References: <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> <E51tBI.q7@hurka.UUCP> <5d6mqs$n6c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Erik Pennebaker wrote: > > tom@hukatronic.cz (Tomas Hurka) writes: > > >Hi Leigh, > >In article <5d1ekk$o62$1@enyo.uwa.edu.au> leigh@cs.uwa.edu.au (Leigh > >Smith) writes: > >> I can categoricaly state that there is a major, catastrophic bug > >> with Cyrix or IBM 6x86 CPUs, including rev 2.7, that will usually, > >> but not exclusively manifest itself with Omniweb. It will hang > >> the kernel and the problem has been reported to both IBM and > >> Cyrix, with pathetically little response from them. I had a 6x86 > >> with repeatable kernel hangs that I solved by replacing with an > >> Intel CPU. At least three others have confirmed the same problem. > >> NeXT has stated to me that they do not support non-Intel vendors, > >> only to the degree that Cyrix/IBM/AMD are 100% compatible. They > >> aren't. :-( DON'T BUY ONE. > >I can confirm that too. At the end of the last year I was trying to get > >the Cyrix P166+ GP processor, revision 3.7 working with NS 3.3 and NS 4.0. > >Running OmniWeb (except 1.0) hangs the kernel so that the only solution > >for restart was hardware reset. I solved it by replacing the Cyrix with > >Intel. > > Just in case anyone wants another confirmation, me too. Omniweb throws > up a window and the whole thing freezes. Yftp froze after I left it > on overnight, and the package installer freezes sometimes to boot. > Omniweb is definite though - sure way to hose it. > I get the same with the package installer, but not all the time. This only happens with a Cyrix chip, an AMD still seems fine. Not only do the apps cause a panic, so does the idle OS. I get trap e, d, and 6, all randomly. -- Kevin P. Hannan Registered NeXT Developer khannan@ibm.net OS/2 Developer Technical lead - Team Sports (404) 238-7380 (w) Centennial Olympic Games (404) 303-1823 (fax) 6316 Chastain Drive, Atlanta, Ga 30342 USA
From: mgr@aggroup.com (Michael Russell) Newsgroups: misc.forsale.computers.net-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.comm,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.dcom.lans.misc Subject: Re: Ethernet,serial or parallel to localtalk? Date: Fri, 07 Feb 1997 03:48:09 GMT Organization: Zocalo - Berkeley, California, USA Message-ID: <32fa8b0f.22079927@news.zocalo.com> References: <5d4oi6$ns0@goofy.snet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3 Feb 1997 13:17:58 GMT, svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) wrote: >Any way to get my ix86 box to connect with a printer via its a >localtalk connector? I have standard serial, paralled ports as well >as 10Base-2 ethernet card any of which could be used. If not possible >with current resources, any inexpensive cards that can be purchased to >do the trick? you can use Farallon's PhoneNet, which includes localtalk hardware and the necessary software to talk to a printer (as well as file sharing). This costs money, though, so if this is a home project you may want to try cheaper, but less convenient solutions. One such solution is to connect to the printer via its serial port - Apple LaserWriters have both LocalTalk and serial support, and depending on the model, may support both ports simultaneously. Older models require manual rotation of a switch on the back, 0 for localtalk, and 1 for serial.
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From: svenifer@snet.net(Sven Crouse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TGUI 9440 leaves spots Date: 10 Feb 1997 15:07:41 GMT Organization: "SNET dial access service" Message-ID: <5dndjt$qfn@goofy.snet.net> Hello all- I have a generic Trident video card that leaves spots around the screen. I was able to disable the pci_cache_write option of XFree86 3.2 for Linux that prevented these spots. Is there a similar option for OPENSTEP 4.0? Much thanks Sven
From: june@a;lkdfj.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 10 Feb 1997 14:14:06 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5dnafe$1eh@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Mon Feb 10 17:08:35 1997 Original subject was: CD-R Media Blowout at Low Prices
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA Date: 10 Feb 1997 16:22:53 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5dni0t$1tbn@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <5d78sl$6f6@wombat.melbpc.org.au> gslater@popa.melbpc.org.au (Gordon Slater) wrote: Hm, didn't you post about an installation problem before just a few weeks ago? Or is it just common Down Under to use inexpensive whine when doing system installs? :-) >Ended up installing NEXT STEP on an old 540MB drive as NEXT STEP >didn't like the 2GB - could have saved myself some money. Nextstep likes the 2GB ok to my knowledge - you have to partition it though. Why don't you set aside a small DOS partition, so that the rest is < 2GB. >All of sudden my monitor (IBM 2215 colour) jumped into power save >mode... No, not because I hadn't touched the machine in a while. > >More cheap and nasty white wine not-withstanding (was I standing?), I >learned that it was the Cirrus Logic video driver that was being a >very unco-operative shit and pushing the monitor into power save mode >every time NEXT STEP booted. Try booting in verbose mode: b-v If this works ok, you can later use Configure.app to set up your system so that it always boots verbose. >The stupid question arrives - Does anyone know how to get an >integrated Cirrus Logic GD5430 SVGA with 1MB to work? I seem to remember that you need 2MB, but I may be wrong. Check out NextAnswers from www.next.com. Maybe you can still get it to run in one of the lower resolution modes. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color Monitor Repair? Date: 10 Feb 1997 17:00:51 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Hello, All! My black hardware slowly approaches the inevitable end of its useful lifespan, and I do what I can to stretch it out for as many more months as possible. Perhaps someone can help me. My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel is progressively deteriorating. Symptoms are as follows: when the ambient room temperature is below a certain threshold, a distortion appears, worse toward the middle of the screen, less severe toward the top and bottom. The image in the distorted area warps to the left, occasionally "snapping" back to true, but inevitably remaining skewed until I can bring the room temparature up for a long enough time. If this were all there was to it, I could live with the problem, but the threshold temperature keeps rising, until now I must keep my office at a sweltering 82 F (27 C). Now, I know it's possible to replace these things, but I'm reluctant to shell out radical cash if that can be avoided. Since I have a grounding strip, a soldering iron, and little to lose, I wonder if anyone can give me a hint as to whether this is simply a loose contact I can re-flow, and if so, where I might find it? Please respond by email if you can. Regards, Alex ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: devine@shell1.cybercom.net (Steven J. Devine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 10 Feb 1997 13:56:22 -0500 Organization: Cyber Access Internet Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5dnr0m$cv6@shell1.cybercom.net> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <5dcu3i$cb0@news.cerf.net> <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207111916.24666B-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> In article <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207111916.24666B-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca>, Gary Beeton <beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca> wrote: >> That nice, but if you look at the web auctions and newsgroups, the >> best deals are 1GB at about $100 a gigabyte. That seems to be the >> going rate. > >I've been looking for a drive for a few weeks now. The best web >auction/newsgroup deals I've seen are about $200/GB for used or >refurbished drives. Where have you seen better? I just purchased a 3.2 GB IBM EIDE drive from Compustar of Framingham, MA over the weekend for $275 at the KGP Computer shows (www.pcshow.com). Generally, $100/GB is the going rate right now. -- Steve -------- Steven J. Devine, Client/Server Development Consultant ------- ------------------------- devine@cybercom.net ------------------------- ------------------- http://www.cybercom.net/~devine ------------------- - Look here for the Unofficial Web Page for Star and Hudson Speedways -
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contributing to the NeXT FAQs Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 14:10:34 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970210140603.4156H-100000@saul4.u.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros Predicate: Whose triangle is it? I have an addition I'd like to submit to have added to the NeXT Hardware Peripheral FAQ, but the editor's address (nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu) on the FAQ at Omnigroup is no longer valid. Any ideas? I've included the message I sent below. -r > Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:37:35 -0800 (PST) > From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> > To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu > Subject: NeXT Hardware Peripherals FAQ addition > > > (Quoted from the NeXT Hardware Peripherals FAQ) > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: M26. I'm trying to initialize a QUANTUM ELS170S on a NeXTStation > and get sd2: Incomplete disk transfer? > > [From: max@Kolmogorov.gac.edu (Max Hailperin)] > > The Quantum ELSxxxS drives only work with NeXTs if they are the only > SCSI device. If alone, they work fine, but if there are other SCSI > devices you get "incomplete disk transfer" messages. > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > The Micropolis 1588-15 (660 MB, full height SCSI-II) has the same problem.
From: Ray Stricklin <kjaeros@u.washington.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 13:47:06 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.95.970210134152.4156G-100000@saul4.u.washington.edu> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII NNTP-Posting-User: kjaeros In-Reply-To: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> Predicate: Whose triangle is it? On 10 Feb 1997 jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need > 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only > by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he > did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. He is dreadfully confused, then. All cubes but the turbo use 100ns 30 pin low-profile SIMMs. Buying faster memory will not speed anything up. All RAM is treated as 100ns RAM. The turbo is the only cube to use 72 pin SIMMs, and is also the only cube whose memory system will work at the faster 70ns speed. This is all outlined very clearly in the NeXT RAM FAQ. It may be viewed at: http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQs/NeXT-Hardware-RAM-FAQ -r http://weber.u.washington.edu/~kjaeros -------------------------------------- [ e x l i b r i s ]
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:18:45 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> On 02/01/97, Art Isbell wrote: >Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> wrote: >> I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a >> NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have >> something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own >> brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. > > This isn't strictly true. Some NeXTstations use 72-pin SIMMs. > All 25 MHz. NeXTcubes use "industry-standard" 30-pin SIMMs. Memory > specifically designed for NeXT machines isn't required and I've > never heard of any. > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: "Jason M. Smith" <jsmith@es.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 11:51:33 -0700 Organization: Evans & Sutherland Message-ID: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are there any problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, as I suspect it to be? 2) I'm currently running NS3.0. It is my understanding that PPP is not available for 3.0, and didn't appear until 3.3. Please prove me wrong here. So far, this unit has been wonderful. This would be the icing on the cake. Thanks... -- Jason M. Smith Software Engineer 1215 S. McClelland St. 600 Komas Dr. Display Group Salt Lake, UT 84105 Salt Lake City, UT 84158 Evans & Sutherland (801) 486-2378 (H) (801) 588-7552 (W)
From: "M. C. Kim" <mckim@online.ru> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Print problem with HPLJ6MP and Mathematica 3.0 Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 23:31:32 +0300 Organization: Bauman Moscow State Technical University Message-ID: <32FF85A4.530@online.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings. Currently I use Mathematica 3.0 for NEXTSTEP/Mach-Intel on my pentium PC. Everytime I try to print notebooks, The following error messages are overlapped on the printed notebooks: ERROR: undefined OFFENDING COMMAND: nextdict STACK: Except the error messages above, everything works fine. I printed notebooks to postscript files and checked out and found that every .ps files generated by print command of Mathematica includes following line in their codes: nextdict /_journalRecording false put When I manually remove this line from .ps files, they printed as normal. My system configuration is like this: Pentium 133MHz 64MB EDO RAM ASUS PCI mainboard Parallel port is configured as ECP HP LaserJet 6MP with 3MB RAM MGA Millennium 8MB Would somebody help me to correct this error? Thanks in advance. Myoung-Cheol Kim Moscow, Russia mckim@online.ru http://www.online.ru/people/mckim
From: henry@norr.com (Henry Norr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 10:04:49 -0800 Organization: MacWEEK Message-ID: <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com> I've seen this question asked on this group several times, but if there's ever been an answer, forgive me -- I've missed it. The question is: Is there any way to use a Next 21-inch color monitor (the kind that needs the three-headed 13W3 cable and soundbox to work with a NextStation) with a Mac or PC? I actually got hold of a cable with DB15 (Mac monitor port) at one end and 13W3 at the other. It has DIP switches for frequency settings built-in, but with 12 DIPs there are something on the order of 4K possible settings, and I haven't yet found one that works (if indeed any do). Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? Thanks. Henry Norr
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted NeXT Printer. Date: 10 Feb 1997 21:20:20 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5do3ek$t5e$1@shadow.skypoint.net> I am looking for a used black hardware NeXT 400 DPI Laser Printer. If you have one for sale please contact me asap. Retrun email or phone 612-699-3525. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 04:32:42 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Message-ID: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much as I can without introducing more liquid. TIA. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 10 Feb 1997 22:01:16 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> Michael Taylor (mtaylor@aw.sgi.com) wrote: > MMX is a little more than that. Admittedly, you won't notice any > difference until you get software that supports it. > In most multi-media applications, the data is made up of small values. > Modern processors can do 64-bit operations, but this doesn't help much > for doing sound (mostly 16-bit values), 24-bit graphics (3 bit values > per pixel), etc. > But, what if you could use your 64-bit operations to do operations on > several smaller values at the same time (eg. do math on four 16 bit > values at once). In this case, you can get a 4 times speed increase in > processing digital sound. Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point calculations, another 600 ticks. All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS functions are interger, they are not all interger. Also, there are many utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and those will perform floating-point calculations. Acording to Infoworld, they experienced many situations where the MMX processor actually slowed down processing. If you are running NEXTSTEP, odds are that you are combining sound and graphics, the former using the MM extensions, the latter floating point calculations. -pete
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 10 Feb 1997 22:35:30 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5do7ri$q5r@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> <5d018l$92p@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> In article <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net>, <jalegre@andante-systems.com> wrote: >Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need >72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only >by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he >did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. He's wrong because my '040 cube uses 30-pin SIMMs. Turbo cubes use 72-pin SIMMs. It's all in the NeXT FAQ. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: dlow@ppg01.sc.hp.com (Danny Low) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Date: 10 Feb 1997 23:08:36 GMT Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION Message-ID: <5do9pk$bb6@hpscit.sc.hp.com> References: <5dae5b$hjg@krypto.zippo.com> <Pine.SOL.3.95.970205210846.24797B-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu> <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207112603.24666C-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> Gary Beeton (beeton@grover.SEDSystems.ca) wrote: : The fellow I talked to at PCGenerations was very helpfull when I called : to enquire. I was told that all of the blowout priced drives are new : OEM surplus 3.5inch internal IDE and of recent technology. Most drive : have 3 month waranty (upgradable to 1 year for a fee). The 1.6GB Maxtor : that I was interested in is a 7000 series drive (*full* specs are available : on the Maxtor web site). What more information could you possibly want for : heaven's sake :) I would be very careful about who is offering the warranty. OEM warranties are to the DEALER and NOT TO USER. If the 3 month warranty is from PCGenerations to you then that is fine. If the 3 month warranty is from the factory it is useless to you. Only PCGeneration can collect on that warranty. If you try to collect it yourself, you will be told to go back to PCGeneration. Danny Low "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You" Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley HP NSD dlow@ppg01.sc.hp.com
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 06:28:11 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <kn05T=600iWn01l0M0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 10-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Peter Schmidt@humerus.ma > Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a > two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX > state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 > clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through > the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point > calculations, another 600 ticks. _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does switching from MMX to FP take so long? > All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any > multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS > functions are interger, they are not all integer. Also, there are many > utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and > those will perform floating-point calculations. Neither of these should matter. You see, you've got to clear the pipeline and save most to all of the CPU state when doing a context switch to another process or to the kernel when doing a system call, anyway. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:19:31 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E5Fu8K.81M@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 12:23:56 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E5FuFx.84D@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) Why would yuou want to use any other keyboard - the oldstyle NeXTUSA's were the best! > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. It's not the liquid as such which is necessarily the problem - it's the sugary, caffeinated bits. The water will just evaporate in time. You could do worse than immersing it in CLEAN (distilled, if you've got it) water. No solvents, or nasties - just water. Ideally you should have done this before it dried. Afterwards, make sure it dries thoruoghly (don't want any rust!), then see what happens... $an
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help adding external drive Message-ID: <E5Ct3x.BK@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <byrnejbb-0702971851110001@bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:02:21 GMT In article <byrnejbb-0702971851110001@bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com> byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) writes: > Hi All. > > I attached a Mac SCSI external drive to my NeXT Station. It is part of a > chain that includes a Zip drive and a CD-ROM. Each have unique ids as > follows: > > Zip #5 > CD-ROM #2 > Ext SCSI Drive #6 > > When the SCSI is turned on and I boot the NeXT, I receive the following: > > Booting SCSI Target 0, LUN 0 > Bad Version ox45520200 > Bad Version oxo > Bad Version oxo > Bad Version oxo > Bad Label > Next> > > From there, being totally new to this, I am lost. I can power it down, > turn off the external drive, and it powers up just fine. BTW--the external > drive is terminated. It was formatted for Mac. > > Any help? > Systematic error tracing! Remove every component that is thought to be no part of the problem and repeat again. My guess: cabling and/or termination. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: How to get the most out of 2 GB drive? Message-ID: <E5Ct9s.C8@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: Sun, 9 Feb 1997 21:05:51 GMT In article <5ddu6q$6tk$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> jehu@jehu.async.vt.edu (john stanhope) writes: > > I am trying to use a 2GB disk as my boot disk and everything installed > fine but when I login the system tells me I only have a 1 GB disk. > How do I format the disk to get all the space? Thanks. > Black hardware or white? On white hardware it also could be a problem of BIOS translation. On black it is certainly the case that you forgot to insert the line for the second partition into /etc/fstab since BuildDisk.app certainly split the drive in two. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5G0Kw.Gy9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:36:32 GMT References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu>, Paul R. Brown <pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) Ouch indeed! >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. > Cleaning it as best you can is a good idea. Take the keycaps off (they just pull off on non-ADB keyboards--don't know about ADB) and take off the white plastic things. Try to get as much gunk off as possible. If you find a way to separate the circuit board from the keyboard assembly (I don't remember a way) then you should be able to clean the, presumably, gold fingers on the curcuit board with alcohol. Good luck! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5G0Fs.9ME@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:33:28 GMT References: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com>, Jason M. Smith <jsmith@es.com> wrote: >Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the >deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look >into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP >hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... > > 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are there any >problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, as I suspect >it to be? > Yes, it's plug and play, as long as you're just talking to another NeXT on the other end of the ISDN line. Both NeXTs have to be running 3.0. It does not support PPP or any other protocol other than the PhoneKit. Sorry to dash your hopes... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 97 10:27:26 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb11102726@slave.one.net> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In-reply-to: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu's message of 11 Feb 1997 04:32:42 GMT In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu>, pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) writes: Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much as I can without introducing more liquid. Well, if it doesn't work after drying, you almost have to go with some level of immersion (I personally would rather purchase a replacement than bother trying to pop each keycap individually ...). You probably could get away with putting a half inch or so of water in a baking pan of some sort, and placing the keyboard in keycaps-down. The idea being that the water should _just_ clear the keycaps, to clean out the gunk, but not be high enough to muck with the circuit board. Perhaps you could put the keyboard in first, and then add water. Of course, that takes _some_ chances with rust. Don't leave it in the bath for long, and you probably should dry it with a heat source (hair dryer, perhaps). I suppose you could try some other solvent, such as rubbing alcohol. Though that's good for cleaning with a q-tip, I'm not so certain I'd want to immerse plastic in rubbing alcohol for any length of time. Perhaps acetone or somesuch would be better, I'm not sure. You could probably disconnect the keyboard circuitry. I can't recall whether it can be disconnected without a soldering iron, but if you're careful that shouldn't be a big problem. If you can get that off the board, it should be easy enough to clean. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 17:52:33 GMT Organization: CU-HSS Program in Biomechanical Engineering Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <kn05T=600iWn01l0M0@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: : _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? : If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does : switching from MMX to FP take so long? Sorry -- the 600 number was way off. The actual number is 50. The slowdown that I mentioned was speculative, but in the first looks at MMX machines, Infoworld says that there are no great gains -- unlike with DSP's or graphics co-processors. Here's what Infoworld [http://www.infoworld.com] has to say: --------------------------------------------------------------------- (November 1996) Operations that switch frequently between multimedia functions and floating-point arithmetic calculations will suffer a degradation in performance, said Sam Wilkie, a program manager at Intel, in Santa Clara, Calif. At the heart of the problem is the Pentium/MMX architecture. To keep the Pentium/MMX compatible with existing operating systems, Intel chose to share some aspects of floating-point and MMX functions, so the two types of instructions cannot be executed at the same time. The Pentium/MMX processor takes about 50 clock cycles to switch between MMX and floating-point modes, said Wilkie.... Most software performs dozens of MMX instructions followed by dozens of floating-point operations, or vice versa, explained Wilkie. However, software that intermixed MMX and floating-point operations on an instruction-by-instruction basis will be slowed, he said. Today, most such software is high-performance, 3D-enhanced games, according to Wilkie. [Also, in] a multitasking environment, for example, a user might be running a multimedia application in the foreground and recalculating a large spreadsheet in the background. While one program requires MMX, the other demands floating point; the time to switch between the two could slow both programs. ....Tobak explained that the Cyrix M2 processor with MMX capabilities has an instruction that switches the device between modes in one clock cycle. --------------------- In a later article: --------------------- [November 18, 1996, Nicholas Petreley] The problem is that Intel was caught between a rock and a hard place with MMX. It could have built a new wing onto the Pentium architecture, which would have been a safe and effective way to add MMX to the chip. But it would mean creating new CPU registers (internal storage slots) to do the MMX processing. Intel didn't want to do that, because then Microsoft and other vendors would have had to update their operating systems to manage these new CPU registers. So Intel got around this problem by letting the MMX portion of the chip "borrow" the registers normally devoted to floating-point math. As a result, the processor has to be switched manually between two modes -- MMX and floating point. And that takes time. About 50 clock ticks of time, which, believe me, is an eternity to microprocessors, no matter what Intel tells you. This is Intel's solution: If you check http://developer.intel.com/drg/mmx/Manuals/dg/DG_CHP4.HTM, you'll see that Intel advises MMX programmers to minimize or eliminate an application's dependence on floating-point operations. If that isn't possible, programmers should avoid frequent switches between MMX and floating point. -------------------- And another article dealing with MMX: [BY BRETT GLASS June 17, 1996 (Vol. 18, Issue 25)] Should you wait for MMX to hit the streets before buying new computers? Probably not. Every one of the MMX instructions can (and will) be emulated in software on existing machines. And if you already have peripherals that contain their own processors (such as a graphics accelerator or a DSP sound card), you'll get better performance from the specialized hardware than you will from an MMX solution. If you decide you want to upgrade to MMX in the future, you're sure to find it in CPU upgrade chips from all major vendors.
From: rmd103@psu.edu (RM DAscenzo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: OStep/Intel Installing to bare drive? Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:11:07 -0500 Organization: HHDEV Computing Services Message-ID: <rmd103-1102971411070001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> I'm considering trying OpenStep on a cobbled together Intel PC. I havent found a spare CD ROM lying around yet, but do have access to an external parallel port CD ROM. I have already made a dos boot disk with the CD ROM drivers. I imagine the install process for OpenStep goes something like... -boot from floppy..mount cd rom...start installer.. What happens next? Does it format the drive with a special file structure? Does it used a UNIX based file system? Do I have to prepare the drive first with a special formatting utility? Would I need any other software..or is everything contained in OpenStep itself? Sincere thanks for any info. -Ron
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:57:29 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5dqfep$f6k@news.next.com> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> Paul R. Brown writes > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. I once had a roommate dump a stein full of beer into my Amiga 500, gumming up the keyboard and floppy drive. What I did was to disassemble it and wash everything *really well* with just hot water, then dry it out by placing it on top of the clothes dryer for a few loads. Worked out great. Just make absolutely sure that everything's totally dry before applying power again. Hope this helps, -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 19:17:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5dqgkj$e4g@news.digifix.com> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> On 02/10/97, Paul R. Brown wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. > >TIA. I've washed (and by washed I mean in a tub of water, and with the shower head) several different keyboards over the last few years, and they've worked fine afterwards. Your mileage may vary though.. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: Jim McGilvray <jim@philo.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: HD recommendations Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 14:56:29 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970211141004.642C-100000@kant> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, all, I'm looking for 3-4 scsi drives, 1.5-2GB, for cubes and slabs. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations on what to get and where to get it? Good price, durability, a quiet drive, and a reliable source are all advantages. Thanks, Jim Jim McGilvray Philosophy/McGill
From: "Mike Linton" <mikel@escape.ca> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: graphics-card-need help Date: 11 Feb 1997 06:23:46 GMT Organization: escape communications corp. Message-ID: <01bc17e2$8d377180$5f4da1cf@default> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper> Jack <jgroll@xpoint.at> wrote in article <01bc1216$291bcec0$700002c3@ripper>... > > > folks, > I've heard quite often that I should get myself a 3D-graphics card, BUT I > don't know which one to buy: Same problem I had... I picked up an ATI 3D Expression 4MB PC2TV card a few months back, and have been quite satisfied with it. HOWEVER, I don't play a lot of games... what I have tried on it, just smokes though (running a Pentium 133). But, like anything else, there are programs out there that will bogg down with it. Doesn't seem to matter what you get these days, you'll always find a way to bung it up. :) It also have a built in TV Output, so you can just plug your 'puter right into the back of a VCR, or TV that accepts SVideo, or Composite video in... Kind of a nice bonus. > Do the computer games support all cards? Yes, and no... right now, most of the newest Win95 programs, are written to support Direct 3D. This, in a nutshell, does away with the compatibilty problems, buy just letting the programmers code for Direct 3D, and not have to worry about which card they're going to directly support. As a result, almost ANY game COULD work with ANY card (I say it like that, because as usual not everyone has done this yet). There are still some programmers who are coding for only one specific card. Now on the flip side, the 2D Accelerator on most 3D Video cards, WILL work with all software (within the usual compatibilty-oriented problems :). But, not all software will take advantage of your 3D Chipset right now. DirectX has become fairly common to most games written over the past few months, as I'm sure Direct 3D will. But, who knows. > If not, which ones are mostly supported? Well, ATI and Matrox are becoming quite popular. However, the 3DFX chipset is ALSO becoming very popular (on the Monster 3D card, from Diamond if I'm not mistaken). It is kind of a nice card, in that it works WITH your existing video card, until the ATI and the Matrox cards, which are a complete replacement for them. BTW - if this message is jaded, and incoherent, I'm running on far tooo little sleep, and should've gone to bed hours ago.
Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware From: Andy Eder <sp1edea@doc.ntu.ac.uk> Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading In-Reply-To: <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> Sender: news@doc.ntu.ac.uk Organization: The Nottingham Trent University, DOC. References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:59:08 GMT On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Marcel Stegehuis wrote: > Matt Kauffman wrote: > > > > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a > > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board > > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. > > > > MMK > > -- > > just another human resource > Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good > be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? > -- > Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. Regards. Andy
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:08:00 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes deep in the operating system kernel to save the current register etc state to allow a change to and back from MMX mode. In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these extensions, as at the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down the road if they so chose to implement it. Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect OS support for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX is fairly useless for now. Pretty ridiculous feature if you ask me because of that required state change and the tremendous latency. schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) wrote: >Unfortunately, acording to an article in Infoworld, the MMX chips are a >two-state chip. The first state is floating-point, the second is the MMX >state. In order to change between states, it takes on the order of 600 >clock cycles. If the cpu is asked to perform MMX functions it goes through >the 600 tick change. If it is subsequently asked to perform floating point >calculations, another 600 ticks. > >All this is fine, if you are running a single-tasking OS like DOS. In any >multi-tasking environment, the results become random. Although most OS >functions are interger, they are not all interger. Also, there are many >utility programs which will run at the same time as your MM application and >those will perform floating-point calculations. > >Acording to Infoworld, they experienced many situations where the MMX >processor actually slowed down processing. If you are running NEXTSTEP, >odds are that you are combining sound and graphics, the former using the MM >extensions, the latter floating point calculations. > > -pete -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) ".com is a mistake."
From: Stephen Lee <slee@rahul.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:33:22 GMT Organization: a2i network Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> NNTP-Posting-User: slee In <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> Andy Eder <sp1edea@doc.ntu.ac.uk> writes: >On Tue, 4 Feb 1997, Marcel Stegehuis wrote: >> Matt Kauffman wrote: >> > >> > If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a >> > P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board >> > compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. >> > >> > MMK >> > -- >> > just another human resource >> Well than. Imagine I already have a P166 (say normal as far as that good >> be). Can I just put in a P166 MMX. Do I need a bios upgrade ? >> -- >> >Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot >of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard >doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable >motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to >the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend >the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. >Regards. >Andy I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. I would like to know if this is true.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:12:30 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <4n0C2z200iWm0_QIk0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <kn05T=600iWn01l0M0@andrew.cmu.edu> <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> In-Reply-To: <5dqbl1$skc@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Peter Schmidt@humerus.ma > Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: >: _600_? How long does it take to clear the pipeline on the Pentium MMX? >: If clearing the pipeline is shorter (and it should be!), why does >: switching from MMX to FP take so long? > > Sorry -- the 600 number was way off. The actual number is 50. Ahh...that's much more in line with the numbers I was thinking of. > The slowdown that I mentioned was speculative, but in the first looks at > MMX machines, Infoworld says that there are no great gains -- unlike with > DSP's or graphics co-processors. Makes sense. MMX is a specialized technology that only offers benefits for a rather limited problem domain. Furthermore, there's little point to having both MMX and a 3D-accelerated video card, since much of the work could be done on either side. I wouldn't say MMX was useless, exactly-- but it's far more of a marketing gimmick than something which offers lots of practical value. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu (Jeremy Gottlieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 11 Feb 1997 21:33:52 GMT Organization: Carleton College, Northfield, MN, USA Message-ID: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Hi. We have a color NeXT printer that needs new ink cartridges. Does anyone out there know either of the following: 1) A place to get NeXT ink cartridges. 2) Whether there are any other ink cartridges that will work in the NeXT color printers. We suspect that cartridges from a Canon printer might work, but don't know the model numbers or anything. Thanks. -- _______________________________________________________________ Jeremy Gottlieb gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu Carleton College System Manager Northfield, MN 55057 Carleton Math/CS "Consider how stupid the average American is. Now keep in mind that half the people are dumber than that!"--George Carlin _______________________________________________________________
From: Claude Dubois <doobie@sfm.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Hard Drive Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:35:49 -0400 Organization: S.F. Marketing Inc. Message-ID: <3300D81F.4CAD@sfm.ca> References: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970130011459.26525A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> <32F3A5F1.6171@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <32FBEECB.6A19@virginia.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stephan Prock wrote: > > How can I determine which external hard drives will be compatible with > my NeXT Turbostation. I'm interested in the APS Q 1280 by I'm not > sure about the "Fireball TM mechanism." Any info would be greatly > appreciated. > > S. Prock I have bought and installed the Quantum drive from APS in my NeXT TurboColor (Under NS 3.2) as the internal startup drive with no problem whatsoever. I expect the external unit should work just as well. Service from APS was excellent. Claude Dubois
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 11 Feb 1997 22:16:00 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> <E5G0Kw.Gy9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu>, >Paul R. Brown <pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> wrote: >>Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >>keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >>from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > I did this a few years ago, too. Only *I'm* not afraid to name names -- it was Diet Pepsi. I managed to get everything working again after cleaning the entire keyboard in an ultrasonic cleaner using lukewarm distilled water. -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 16:54:01 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <En0CdtK00iWm0_QJE0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 11-Feb-97 OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... by Paul R. Brown@ashkhabad. > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. Let's look on the bright side (sort of :-)-- no matter what you do, it can only help or at least not make things any worse. There are two problems that you need to correct. First, spilling fluid into the keyboard makes the keys stick, and secondly, the dried fluid will make contacts between traces on the circuit board where there shouldn't be any. Disassemble the keyboard, and remove all of the key caps by gently but firmly levering them straight upwards. The special bigger keys like spacebar, return, shift, etc have metal "U" clips which you should remove from the board surface before lifting the key cap itself out. Rinse all of these key caps in warm soapy water, along with the outer casing of the keyboard. In order to clean the keyboard's circuit board, I'd try getting some "Electrical Contact Cleaner & Lubricant Spray" such as Krylon #1351 by Sherwin-Williams from Radio Shack. This stuff does an amazing job of removing gunk, and will evaporate very quickly. You might want to hold the circuit board at an angle over a sink to sort of let the contaminant drip off instead of some being left when the cleaner evaporates. You might also wash or immerse the board in warm water, shake it dry, and use the contact cleaner again. You can speed up the drying process with a hair dryer set on low. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: schmidt@humerus.mae.cornell.edu (Peter Schmidt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 00:17:42 GMT Organization: Cornell University Sender: ps17@cornell.edu (Verified) Message-ID: <5dr276$d2h@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <kn05T=600iWn01l0M0@andrew.cmu.edu> <4n0C2z200iWm0_QIk0@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger (cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote: > I wouldn't say MMX was useless, exactly-- but it's far more of a > marketing gimmick than something which offers lots of practical value. I guess the gimick with the MMX processor is that you can design a cheep system, giving most of your money to Intel. Get a cheep video card and a cheep sound card, and put them on a MB with an MMX processor, and you have a decent multimedia machine. -pete
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTprinter components Date: 11 Feb 1997 18:16:48 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently repairing my NeXTprinter. We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? ...................................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Power Supply Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:43:31 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> I have a monochrome turbo NeXTStation whose power supply just failed. If anyone knows where I can obtain the appropriate replacement part, or knows where there is information about obtaining a replacement, could they please contact me by email: rlarson @semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu I know this topic has been raised before. Please forgive the use of bandwdth in raising it again. -Richard Larson
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 00:25:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote: > >In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes deep in >the operating system kernel to save the current register etc state to allow a >change to and back from MMX mode. > >In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these extensions, as at >the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down >the road if they so chose to implement it. > >Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect OS support >for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX is fairly useless for >now. While NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Mach will not take advantage and therefore also won't suffer the disadvantages of the MMX extensions, Intel's new Pentium MMX chips offer more than MMX. Intel doubled the L1 cache and write buffers among other things to give the Pentium MMX a performance boost even without software designed to take advantage of MMX. Therefore the fastest 200Mhz Pentium chip you can buy today is a 200Mhz Pentium MMX, even if you are running NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. For more info on this subject, check out Tom's Hardware Page at http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/. While it's mostly geared towards the "mainstream" PC crowd, most of it applies to anyone using/buying PC clone equipment. The whole idea of putting video related acceleration on the CPU has some interesting side effects on the NEXTSTEP Display Postscript realm if the players chose to take advantage of it. While Intel's MMX may mean nothing for us, the movement towards faster framebuffers (possibly bypassing PCI a la AGP) would help the speed of Display Postscript. Since NEXTSTEP uses the CPU to draw views into main memory buffers and then blasts those buffers across to the video card, any acceleration provided on the video card is typically unused. All an optimal NEXTSTEP system needs is a really fast interface between the main memory buffers, video RAM, and RAMDACs. SGI's unified memory architecture in thier O2 for example might provide a direction for very high DPS performance. While the new PC's easily outperform NeXT's hardware on NXBench, a closer look reveals that most of the additional speed is from the faster CPU doing the DPS->main memory buffer drawing, which is the most CPU intensive portion. However, the black hardware does a terrific job at getting the main memory buffer contents to the video RAM (except the NeXTdimension) and thus giving black hardware such a fluid UI feel with comparably little CPU horsepower. (Compare the results on the "window" test). Getting back to MMX, NeXT's DPS architecture means that if one wants to have more hardware acceleration for DPS, one ought to look at CPU video extensions. 3D and video acceleration without poking a "hole" in DPS could also conceivably be achieved using multimedia extensions to the CPU. Food for thought anyways. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: ticsoftware_mani <mani@ticsoftware.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP connect NeXT monitor to a PC Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:59:39 -0500 Organization: TIC Message-ID: <3301240B.8D5@ticsoftware.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone how to connect a MegaPixel 21" NeXT cube color monitor (Hitachi 4005E) with a PC (as a SVGA)? Thanks
From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP Postscript printer won't work. Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:55:15 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <MPG.d6b4f6aab71896989685@news.xmission.com> I'm having trouble getting an HP LaserJet 4ML printer to work with OpenStep/Mach/Intel 4.1. When I try to print the indicator lights light up and blink like normal when the printer is processing data but then the printer never prints, it just continues to process the data indefinately. The printer is responding to the computer because the computer can sense out-of-paper, open-door, paper-jam, etc. I've tried several different PPD's all with the same result. Everything works fine from Windows 95. Thanks, Kevin Pompei
From: byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com (John B. Byrne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help adding external drive Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 20:20:20 -0500 Organization: Integrated Wellness Systems Message-ID: <byrnejbb-1102972020210001@bal-md1-10.ix.netcom.com> References: <byrnejbb-0702971851110001@bal-md6-17.ix.netcom.com> <E5Ct3x.BK@nidat.sub.org> In article <E5Ct3x.BK@nidat.sub.org>, Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > My guess: cabling and/or termination. Well, before I read this message, I figured it out. I forgot that because the SCSI drive was an internal disk on the Mac, the jumper was set as device 0. So, I now have more space. John
From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:26:18 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <MPG.d6b48b94175664989682@news.xmission.com> References: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com>, comiskey1@aol.com says... > I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT > OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than > Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. > Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. > Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They > are very expensive! > I would really appreciate any help on this!!! > -DC > You don't have to have a scsi cd-rom. A standard ATAPI CD-ROM works fine. Also there are a number of SCSI adapters that work. Check out NextAnswers at http://www.next.com Kevin Pompei
From: kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:48:53 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <MPG.d6b4dff76d580c4989684@news.xmission.com> I was wondering if anyone else has noticed this or if it is just a peculiar quirck of my system. After installing OS 4.1/Mach/Intel and hearing about the potential problems with Cyrix 6x86 processors, I took out my Cyrix P150 and replaced it with a Intel Pentium-150. True to Cyrix's claims the performance qualitatively seemed about the same. I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. Has anyone else noticed that Openstep/mach's performance is greatly influenced by bus speed. Thanks, Kevin Pompei
From: comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 01:32:47 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They are very expensive! I would really appreciate any help on this!!! -DC -Electric Eye "Keep the Faith and Defend It!- "You think you've private lives Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape I'm watching all the time." >Judas Priest, Electric Eye, 1982 (comiskey@netaxis.com)
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:57:30 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5drijq$dj5@news.us.net> References: <MPG.d6b4dff76d580c4989684@news.xmission.com> kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) wrote: >I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an >Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably >quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be >the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. > >Has anyone else noticed that Openstep/mach's performance is greatly >influenced by bus speed. IMHO, definitely. To a typical NS/OS user, the perceived performance can be tied to how "fluid" the UI behaves. These can be quantified by the response of scroll bars, moving windows, etc. etc. Slow, disk intensive things like launching applications are usually hidden on systems that are close in CPU horsepower, since something like 18 versus 22 seconds isn't that noticable especially on a multi-tasking OS. Since NS/OS draws everything using Display Postscript into a main memory buffer and then blasts that buffer across the PCI bus to the video card, the speed of main memory and the PCI bus dramatically affects scrolling and window movement. When you drag a window, copies of the window buffer are being blasted to different locations in the video buffer across the PCI bus. A system bus speed of 60Mhz versus 66Mhz means that the PCI bus is running at 30Mhz versus 33Mhz, an immediate 10% difference. Therefore, if your CPU can render the window into the main memory buffer in "real time", then the only item affecting video performance is the bandwidth to the screen of which the bus speeds play a major role. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:45:29 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> I had posted a question about running NS/OS with the AMD K5. While there were many responses that said that the Cyrix 6x86 has problems with NS/OS, there were no confirmations on whether or not the AMD K5 would work. Poking around the AMD web site revealed that AMD had XXCAL Testing Laboraties test the K5 for compatibility and lo and behold, NEXTSTEP 3.3 was on the compatible list (see http://www.xxcal.com/amdk5s.htm). That was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) This should tide me over until a PPCP or CHRP or whatever they want to call it PowerPC hardware and OPENSTEP for PowerPC ships. Unfortunately I still cannot confirm first hand whether or not the K5 works with NS/OS. :-( I think we would all be more confident if the XXCAL list included OmniWeb. :-) -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 22:46:02 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <33013CE0.2EF@wam.umd.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > In addition, this is not easily implemented as it requires changes > deep in the operating system kernel to save the current register > etc state to allow a change to and back from MMX mode. > > In other words, NEXTSTEP will most likely never use these > extensions, as at the time NEXTSTEP was designed this stuff > didn't exist. OPENSTEP might down the road if they so chose > to implement it. > > Due to the problems this state change causes, I wouldn't expect > OS support for this anytime soon. That means essentially that MMX > is fairly useless for now. > > Pretty ridiculous feature if you ask me because of that required > state change and the tremendous latency. > Actually, the entire point of having MMX use the same registers and state as the FPU was to prevent OS kernals from having to be rewritten to support MMX. Since OS's have to swap the state of the FPU on task switches already they don't need to do ANYTHING in order to support MMX. Now, if you want to have the OS make USE of the MMX instructions to accelerate some OS tasks (I can't think of what you would use MMX for in kernal code) THEN you would need to recompile... - Jeff Dutky
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware From: bear@indra.com (Bear Giles) Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Administrator) Organization: Acme University, W. E. Coyote president Message-ID: <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 02:09:34 GMT -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- emon@gte.com wrote: > > Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive > as new. Uh, that's a classic example of _fraud_. Are you absolutely sure that they represented the drives as "new," or did you overlook fine print stating that the drives may have been used or refurbished? This brings up another point that I've found a few sites trying. Someone's web page with "<FONT SIZE=1>These drives may be used</FONT>" is probably not legal notice. A clean paper font in 4 points is marginally legible, but I've seen some web sites where the text was literally only 2 or 3 pixels high! Likewise a disclaimer in white-on-white probably has no legal weight. > And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive > starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has > expired. [Assuming that the drives were presented as "new" or "original", etc.] Get that in writing, then file a formal criminal complaint with the Attorney General's office (or Secretary of State, it varies) for both your state and the state this company operates out of. They probably won't act on a single complaint, but if the state gets several complaints they can take action. Also, you should consider filing a small-claims action against the company for fradulent activity. In most states you can seek 3x damages (=the cost of the drive, although you'll have to return it) if you can show that the other party knowingly committed fraud. They probably won't show up to defend themselves (the cost to defend themselves would be close to the damages sought), and figure that collecting on the judgment would be impossible from out-of-state. That's why you name the officers of the company as codefendants, and when you get the judgment you turn it over to the most viscious, nasty collection agency you can for "one dollar and other considerations." ;-) Also be sure they notify the credit bureaus of the judgment. Alternately, if you're _really_ pissed at someone I think there's a way to file for involuntary bankruptcy for a company if it refuses to pay a legal obligation. This involves real money, but it makes life a nightmare for the other party, especially if you can time it right. ObDisclaimer: IHNBAL. - -- Bear Giles To treat your facts with imagination is one thing, bear'at'indra'dot'com but to imagine your facts is another. -- John Burroughs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMwEmTHdFPAE5baNlAQFd5wP7BdtifAvyLimxejZmBPoLPlEYZTMXxHHk KNJWUc+gb7RK9PPdg+W4RCxdacsFe9TFJdQpaiG5mLFxbynPmUnmjL+z+V9xGHOU XzQpM3nG3kZjd3ncwG3vkRFK1SLY68KB/rp/Fg2xTQlLdC0baQmPSE6Y0SoEFb67 naKk8EXfFLE= =6TDL -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 08:07:50 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I bought a used NeXTprinter recently and I am very happy with it. Bought a new HP tone cartridge for it, and the blacks are as solid as can be. It is still, IMHO, the best choice with the most bang for the buck on a NeXT. -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) ".com is a mistake."
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 04:35:24 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5drhac$dj5@news.us.net> References: <19970212013201.UAA25323@ladder01.news.aol.com> comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) wrote: >I would like to know if anyone thinks I'd be very happy with how the NeXT >OS performs on a DX4-100 CPU. They're very cheap and much less than >Pentiums. It would save me at least $100 to go with one. >Also, I am confused about setting up a box. I know I need a SCSI CD-ROM. >Now, am I limited to only Adaptec 154x and BusLogic SCSI adapters? They >are very expensive! >I would really appreciate any help on this!!! For many tasks a 100Mhz 486DX4 would be sufficient if you spent the money in other areas - memory and I/O. These days, however, you might as well go with an AMD 5x86 133Mhz CPU since there shouldn't be a price difference. This should give you roughly 80Mhz Pentium integer performance. A 100Mhz 486DX4 with 32mb of RAM will outperform a 166Mhz Pentium with 16mb of RAM for most user tasks, since a VM page fault is extremely expensive (disks are slow). You do not need a SCSI CD-ROM, but SCSI is definitely a plus for a multitasking system. For any system I would recommend getting a PCI bus. Once you have that and a system with a NCR SCSI BIOS built in (many do these days), you can buy a NCR 810 SCSI card for $80. A 2X or 4X SCSI CD-ROM drive is very inexpensive these days. If you really must go with EIDE, then an ATAPI compatible CD-ROM will work - check the NeXTanswers on the EIDE driver. Final note: you may want to consider buying a Pentium motherboard and getting a low end Pentium (Intel or AMD) because you would have a longer upgrade path (stick in a 200Mhz Pentium MMX if you want to down the road). -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 02:44:36 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Advice welcome on the following: I am debating which way to go on getting a printer for a NeXTstation, either 1) a new (i.e. unused) Next LaserPrinter for $400, or 2) a new currently manufactured laser printer, for $?. I've used a NeXT LaserPrinter before, and it was MUCH faster than attaching a PostScript printer over the serial port on NeXT hardware. It seemed at least 6 pages per minute. Does anyone know the exact number? The only deficieny was that it didn't make very solid blacks. But sharpness was very good with 400dpi. To get a PostScript printer working with a NeXTstation as fast as a NeXT printer, it would have to be attached through the ethernet, no? So how much would I have to spend on a PostScript with the equivalent How much $ would I need to spend? Would it have to have a network card on it? For comparison, what is the bandwidth (Mbits/second) for printers connected to a typical PC? Thanks much for any info. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help me I give up... Date: 12 Feb 1997 06:28:31 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <cward-1102972228200001@adnline1324.adnc.com> I am helping a friend with his Dimension Cube running NeXTStep 3.3... I have given up on sendmail. I have gotten a lot of help. Nothing works. I am always root@local.host no matter what I do. Cannot send mail host local host not found. I GIVE UP!!! Sendmail won't work for me... I have a few other problems I can't find answers for... How do you get sound from a VCR to go through the soundbox? Video in on the Dimension board works real well, no sound though. I have Ghostscript and the Ghost for HP Deskjets. I will figure out how to compile someday... I have here an HP 500c. What cabling do I use? Pinouts? Where do I connect it? Audio CDs don't work. Can't read them on Toshiba or NEC drives I have here to test them on. What are the RGB pinouts on the Dimension board? I can't find this info... Thank you all! CW
From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:19:28 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Distribution: usa Message-ID: <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> Cc: slee@rahul.net Stephen Lee <slee@rahul.net> writes: >I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be >plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. > >I would like to know if this is true. It is patently false; you may want to avoid that dealer in the future. I cite from the introduction to application note "AP-580 Voltage Guidelines For Pentium Processors With MMX(TM) Technology": This application note is of particular importance due to the new core voltage of the Pentium processor with MMX technology. Its split voltage (2.8v core; 3.3v input/output) is in contrast to the Pentium processor's unified voltage (3.3v core and input/output). Motherboard designs must be modified to accommodate the Pentium processor with MMX technology's new core voltage. Refer to Pentium Processor Flexible Motherboard Guidelines (order #243187) for additional information. Convince yourself: http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/applnots/243186.htm - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 07:04:59 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <En0P7fm00iWp023HQ0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970129155113.7997A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> <32F8F33A.446B@aw.sgi.com> <5do5rc$lfj@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> <5dqn3g$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> In-Reply-To: <5dr2li$bdl@news.us.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 12-Feb-97 Re: MMX-upgrading by Bill Chin@us.net > The whole idea of putting video related acceleration on the CPU has > some interesting side effects on the NEXTSTEP Display Postscript realm > if the players chose to take advantage of it. While Intel's MMX may > mean nothing for us, the movement towards faster framebuffers (possibly > bypassing PCI a la AGP) would help the speed of Display Postscript. Good point! And it's about time PC hardware designers figured this out. Yes, Virginia-- ignoring Amdahl's law by designing hardware with unbalanced I/O bandwidth relative to CPU performance or memory is not a good idea.... :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: jof@lune.univ-lr.fr (Bruno Joffredo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 12 Feb 1997 12:43:46 GMT Organization: Universite de La Rochelle Message-ID: <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> Hello, I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr Thank you. -- Bruno Joffredo bruno.joffredo@cri.univ-lr.fr (NeXt Mail, MIME) Centre de Ressources Informatiques
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:31:01 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> On 02/11/97, Christian Kuhtz wrote: > >I bought a used NeXTprinter recently and I am very happy with it. Bought a new >HP tone cartridge for it, and the blacks are as solid as can be. > >It is still, IMHO, the best choice with the most bang for the buck on a NeXT. > >-- >Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) > ".com is a mistake." > Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript translator on the NT side? All comments welcome. -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: External Bus Speed v. Internal Speed on OS/Intel Date: 12 Feb 97 10:09:45 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb12100945@howard.one.net> References: <MPG.d6b4dff76d580c4989684@news.xmission.com> In-reply-to: kpompei@xmission.com's message of Wed, 12 Feb 1997 03:48:53 -0700 In article <MPG.d6b4dff76d580c4989684@news.xmission.com>, kpompei@xmission.com (Kevin Pompei) writes: I then had to use the 150 in a different machine and replaced it with an Intel Pentium 133. To my surprise the system is responding noticeably quicker. The only thing I can think of that would cause this would be the difference in bus speeds 66mhz v. 60mhz. Did you remember to set the multiplier back from 2.5x to 2x? If not, you might have been running at 166Mhz. Other than that, it's tough to say. NeXTSTEP (Linux, WindowsNT, etc) will in general benefit more from a fast bus to memory and disk than, say, Windows95. On the other hand, the 150Mhz CPU should still be faster. It's expected that the faster CPU will get requests to the slower bus more quickly, resulting in a net gain of hardly anything for 150Mhz over 133Mhz. But if you're really running at 166Mhz, well, then you've got the faster bus and the faster CPU :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days>
From: Claude Dubois <doobie@sfm.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: HD recommendations Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:40:47 -0400 Organization: S.F. Marketing Inc. Message-ID: <3301D664.7201@sfm.ca> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.970211141004.642C-100000@kant> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jim McGilvray wrote: > > Hi, all, > > I'm looking for 3-4 scsi drives, 1.5-2GB, for cubes and slabs. Does > anyone have any advice or recommendations on what to get and where to get > it? Good price, durability, a quiet drive, and a reliable source are all > advantages. > > Thanks, > > Jim > > Jim McGilvray > Philosophy/McGill Hi Jim! Over a year ago, I bought the Quantum Fireballs from a couple of sources and they worked just fine as startup drives in NeXT TurboColor slabs. They were at the time the least expensive and still are excellent value. APS Technologies had excellent pricing and speedy delivery, check them out. By the way, the drives still perform perfectly.
From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: 12 Feb 1997 16:53:51 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <WEGMANN.97Feb12165352@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my range of choices is now as follows: - Toshiba XM-3801B - Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) - Pioneer DR-U12x Can anyone answer one (or more) of these questions? 1. Does anybody know a URL whith specific information about the Pioneer drive (or who could supply this informaiton)? 2. Plextor claims to deliver "true 12speed", i.e. 1.8MB/sec data transfer rate "at every location on the disc". Toshiba says their drive has "up to 2,250 KB/s sustained data transfer rate". (Similar values for random access Plextor:105ms, Tosh.: <99ms) Now, the Toshiba seems to be marginally faster, although the Plextor features a 512KB buffer (Tosh. 256KB). Which one's faster for what purpose? (Does the larger buffer have any noticeable advantage?) o installation of software (such as a whole OS) o multimedia applications (e.g. reading large QT movies from CD) o running of applications directly off the CD 3. I understand from earlier postings in c.p.c.h that Toshiba does DAE (Digital Audio Extraction) only with annoyingly simple speed, while the Plextor can do this at a much higher speed with the supplied Windows software? Is it possible only with proprietary software or is there any freely available software (besides the OmniCD 0.5alpha version under NEXTSTEP) that can be used for all drives? 4. Toshiba seems to be available only in a tray version. Does anybody know of a caddy version? What about the Pioneer drive? 5. Has anybody successfully used any of these drives at a NeXTstation? 6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder than slower drives. Is that true? I'll gladly summarize if there is sufficient feedback. Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: UltraSCSI drives at NeXTstation? Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:10:27 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Distribution: world Message-ID: <WEGMANN.97Feb12171027@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> I'm currently looking for a 4GB hard drive which I intend to attach to a NeXTstation mono (32MB, NEXTSTEP 3.3). Nobody could offer me a simple FastSCSI disc, since they've vanished from the market (at least the German one). Vendors esp. offered me a Seagate Barracuda drive ST34371N with a capacity of 4.3 GB and 7200rpm. Has anybody had success with this drive at a NeXTstation? Or: does anyone know whether it can be used with asynchronous data transfers in order to please older drives? How about using these disks under OPENSTEP 4.x? Does OPENSTEP allow larger partitions than 2GB? Thanks, Frank Wegmann -- Frank Wegmann voice: +49 234 700 7677 / +49 234 700 2461 Sprachwiss. Institut fax : +49 234 7094 137 Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum email: wegmann@linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de, 44780 Bochum wegmann@acm.org (NeXTmail, MIME welcome) Germany WWW : http://www.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
From: greg davis <gregor@crosslink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 11:22:25 -0500 Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <3301EE41.2EAD@crosslink.net> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul R. Brown wrote: > > Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the > keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you > from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) > So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? > I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much > as I can without introducing more liquid. > I have had good luck with using de-ionized water as a cleaning agent. Unlike distilled water, this is PURE H20 (unlike distilled) and does NOT conduct electricity. I buy it by the gallon at the local Culligan dealer. You should be able to score a couple of gallons, fill your sink up and dunk the doggone sticky keyboard right into it. A new stiff bristled brush is helpful at dislodging sugar. As an alternative, if you have a water-pik, you could jet the thing clean as well. Let it drain to dry, and when it dries, should work like a champ. Like Scott said, though, your mileage may vary. Gregor
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:36:46 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971236460001@news.tiac.net> References: <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com>, henry@norr.com (Henry Norr) wrote: > Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues > with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the > NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the 21" is 75 dpi. The sound box provides integrated mike and speaker, as well as line-outs and headphone jack. No idea about those DIP switches. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 12 Feb 1997 18:54:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5dt3ls$5m9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> <E5G0Kw.Gy9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> <5dsqcu$mp2@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> I have bathed NeXT keyboards in various edable liquids from time to time, including but not limited to coffee, apple juice, orange juice etc. They will survive it just fine. Unplug'em. Possible open the case to dry'em off and wipe the gunk off. And then let them dry for a couple of hours. I've found them pretty undestructable (thank god). Copy my behavior on your own risk. ;-) ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) wrote: >Guys, my keyboard once had coffee on it. Some idiot tried to harass me. >So as any chemist would know sugar is not dissoved by ethanol >nor acetone. Acetone is bad for he plastic. So is methanol. > >What i used to do in extreme cases is bath the damn thing >in water and soap. then dry it. Keyboards with the >gummy dry very slow and so do the ones with the >fluffy plastic. The next has switches as keys and that dries >them faster. but these switches can be replaced at a small cost. >YOu only need a soldering iron and solder. > >Sorry for the english! >John > -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) ".com is a mistake."
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:34:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5dsuv5$5m9@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: >Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the >OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript >translator on the NT side? I've never tried it, but a generic PostScript queue on the NT side should do the trick. Best regards, -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) ".com is a mistake."
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 12:42:05 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971242050001@news.tiac.net> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu>, altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: > To get a PostScript printer working with a NeXTstation as fast as a NeXT > printer, it would have to be attached through the ethernet, no? So how much > would I have to spend on a PostScript > > with the equivalent How much $ would I need to spend? Would it have to have a > network card on it? There are several ethernet to LW boxes available, typically costing $300. So a NeXT printer is much cheaper than such a box plus a decent LW. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 12 Feb 1997 17:48:02 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970212174700.MAA28846@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> The NeXT Color Printer was a re-worked Canon BJC-8xx--this is very similar to a Lexmark 4079 series. Cartridges from either should work, and ought to be available from any decent computer store. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: babb@sdsu.edu (J.Babb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Color Monitor Repair? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:08:52 -0800 Organization: Absolutely None Distribution: world Message-ID: <babb-1202971008520001@babb.sdsu.edu> References: <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> In article <5dnk83$mhp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, atl2@lehigh.edu wrote: > Hello, All! > > My black hardware slowly approaches the inevitable end of its useful > lifespan, and I do what I can to stretch it out for as many more months as > possible. Perhaps someone can help me. > > My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel is progressively deteriorating. Symptoms > are as follows: when the ambient room temperature is below a certain > threshold, a distortion appears, worse toward the middle of the screen, > less severe toward the top and bottom. The image in the distorted area > warps to the left, occasionally "snapping" back to true, but inevitably > remaining skewed until I can bring the room temparature up for a long > enough time. If this were all there was to it, I could live with the > problem, but the threshold temperature keeps rising, until now I must keep > my office at a sweltering 82 F (27 C). > > Now, I know it's possible to replace these things, but I'm reluctant to > shell out radical cash if that can be avoided. Since I have a grounding > strip, a soldering iron, and little to lose, I wonder if anyone can give > me a hint as to whether this is simply a loose contact I can re-flow, and > if so, where I might find it? > > Please respond by email if you can. > > Regards, > > Alex > ATL2@lehigh.edu Hmmm... Mine's just the opposite. No warp but the middle is OK anbd the top and bottom are screwed up. It definitely is in the vertical deflection section. Now who makes these? Are Sony or Hitachi OEM? If so can we get a schematic. At this point paranoia kicks in: I'm not responsible for loss of life, limb, money, bad hair days, ANYTHING) Regardless of schematic, seems that the circuit is non-linear so _I_ would trace back from the output of the vert ckttill you see a linear ramp the components just past that point are probably the culprit. I have a question: Could anybody give me specs on the sync signals for this monitor? -- ------------------------ Jeff Babb ------------------------- Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think. babb@sdsu.edu http://rohan.sdsu.edu/staff/babb/web/ ...flames to /dev/null ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ikouts@adonis.clnsnet.ariadne-t.gr (Ioannis Koutselas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 12 Feb 1997 16:16:30 GMT Organization: National Technical University of Athens, Greece Message-ID: <5dsqcu$mp2@ulysses.noc.ntua.gr> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> <E5G0Kw.Gy9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5dqr30$k6h@tribune.usask.ca> Guys, my keyboard once had coffee on it. Some idiot tried to harass me. So as any chemist would know sugar is not dissoved by ethanol nor acetone. Acetone is bad for he plastic. So is methanol. What i used to do in extreme cases is bath the damn thing in water and soap. then dry it. Keyboards with the gummy dry very slow and so do the ones with the fluffy plastic. The next has switches as keys and that dries them faster. but these switches can be replaced at a small cost. YOu only need a soldering iron and solder. Sorry for the english! John
From: babb@sdsu.edu (J.Babb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:20:59 -0800 Organization: Absolutely None Message-ID: <babb-1202971020590001@babb.sdsu.edu> Could anybody give me specs on the sync signals for the (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel monitor? Also I've got a Color NextStation and the (non-ADB) 17" Color MegaPixel Monitor. How do I get the system to work? Or do I? Forgive me, I'm new to the NeXT. -- ------------------------ Jeff Babb ------------------------- Life is a tragedy for those who feel and a comedy for those who think. babb@sdsu.edu http://rohan.sdsu.edu/staff/babb/web/ ...flames to /dev/null ----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Pei-Te Kao <pkao@halcyon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT color printer? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 10:33:41 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <33020D05.60DB@halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - Just wondering - having heard a lot about the NeXT laser printer - how about the color printer? where can I find info and spec about it? is it good? can it work with Mac or ? How does it compare to the 400 dpi laser printer? Thanks! Pei-Te
From: "Giraudo1" <giraudos@avon.net.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: OpenStep on Intel..requirements?? Date: 12 Feb 1997 13:18:25 GMT Organization: iiNet Technologies Message-ID: <01bc18e8$83845b60$281f3bcb@giraudos.avon.net.au> References: <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu> Cache-Post-Path: oak.avon.net.au!unknown@ppp09.avon.net.au I have installed OS 4.0 on a number of machines with EIDE hardware. I had problems until I placed the CD ROM second in line to the hard disk off the same EIDE output. After this it installed like a baby. I found it easier to install than Win95 and a lot easier that out UNIX based OS's. If you have problems email me, I will help if I can. simon g. giraudos@avon.net.au RM DAscenzo <rmd103@psu.edu> wrote in article <rmd103-0702971800520001@csd128.hhdcsd.psu.edu>... > Can anyone provide pointers to informatin about what could be expected > when setting up OpenStep Intel. Are certain configurations not supported? > Are drivers available? Are the potential conflicts that are common in the > WIntel world also found with OpenStep? Essentially how easy or difficult > is this and can it be done with cobbled together hardware? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > Sincere thanks, > -Ron >
From: "Carl A. Carlson" <ccarlson@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: 12 Feb 1997 12:27:01 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Thanks
From: syw29@cas.org (Sean Walton - D26) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: 1 GB hard drives for $139? Date: 12 Feb 1997 19:30:11 GMT Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service Message-ID: <5dt5o3$1t9@srv13s4.cas.org> References: <Pine.HPP.3.91.970207112603.24666C-100000@grover.SEDSystems.ca> On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Keith Wiley wrote: > > > Great. I'd consider it if I could get ANY specs at all on the drives but > > they have no information whatsoever, no even if its EIDE or SCSI. I mean > > come on, are we just supposed to *throw* our money at them. Give me a > > break. Tell me if it's EIDE or SCSI, the seek time, the rpm, and the > > transfer rate, and whether it's internal or external for heaven's sake. > > That's all *must-have* information. I'd be interested, but I'm not just > > gonna buy a big square box and stick it on my desk. You should be able to get IDE drives for $0.09-$0.11/MB and $0.19-$0.25/MB for SCSI. -Sean Walton, KB7rfa
From: tpugh@oce.orst.edu (Tim Pugh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz formated size Date: 12 Feb 1997 20:13:44 GMT Organization: Oregon State University Message-ID: <5dt89o$cl5@news.orst.edu> References: <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Cc: leivian@primenet.com The BSD fast filesystem reserves 10% of the disk, by default, for file system optimizations. It is possible to set the minfree value when creating the filesystem to be less than 10% to maximize usable disk space, but there is a price to be paid when the disk is filling up. IMO, with the bigger disks available today and the file sizes of typical files being the same, the 10% limit is overkill. This should probably be reduced. Perhaps you have noticed that the NEXTSTEP system and other UNIX systems do not have disk de-fragmentizer programs like in Window NT and 95, and MacOS . This is because UNIX can minimize the disk fragmentation given the 10% minfree threshold and file system optimization for space. From the man pages on mkfs(1) and fs(4): Minfree specifies the minimum percentage of free disk space allowed. Once the file system capacity reaches this threshold, only the super-user is allowed to allocate disk blocks. The default value is 10%. fs_minfree gives the minimum acceptable percentage of file system blocks that may be free. If the freelist drops below this level only the super-user may continue to allocate blocks. This may be set to 0 if no reserve of free blocks is deemed necessary, however severe performance degradations will be observed if the file system is run at greater than 90% full; thus the default value of fs_minfree is 10%. fs_optim specifies whether the file system should try to minimize the time spent allocating blocks, or if it should attempt to minimize the space fragmentation on the disk. If the value of fs_minfree (see above) is less than 10%, then the file system defaults to optimizing for space to avoid running out of full sized blocks. If the value of minfree is greater than or equal to 10%, fragmentation is unlikely to be problematical, and the file system defaults to optim- izing for time. -------------------------------------------------------------- Tim F. Pugh email: tpugh@oce.orst.edu Oceanic and Atmospheric Sciences voice: 541-737-2270 Oregon State University fax: 541-737-2064 104 Ocean Admin Building Corvallis, Oregon 97331-5503 NeXTmail, MIME, Sun, or Ascii mail ok! -------------------------------------------------------------- In <5dh4ss$ekr@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Bob Leivian wrote: > I just added a Jaz drive to my next, it works fine but I had a question > I reformated the 1 gig drive from a PC filesystem to a NeXT file system > and mounted it, 'df' said size=998 meg, but the browser said only 877 meg > was available when the disk was empty > > I shouldn't complain because I was living with only 250 meg before but... > > is this normal, was a partition reserved for a bootable disk swap area > > where did that 121 meg go >
From: Jeff Trestrail <trail@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: VLB SCSI: Adaptec 2840 or Buslogic ?? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 16:18:53 -0500 Organization: Iserv.net, Grand Rapids, MI, USA Message-ID: <330233BD.5241@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am installing NS/Intel 3.3 on another machine, and have a choice between using an Adaptec 2840 or a Buslogic VLB SCSI card. Any particular reasons to prefer one over the other?? Thanks. Jeff Jeff Trestrail trail@iserv.net
From: comiskey1@aol.com (Comiskey1) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DX-4/100 good performance? NEED HELP SETTING UP INTEL BOX! Date: 12 Feb 1997 23:48:50 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970212234801.SAA16091@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5drhac$dj5@news.us.net> Bill, Thanks for your insight! The documentation I have with R3.2 says I have to have a SCSI CD-ROM drive. Is this wrong? The reason I would probably go with a DX4-100 is because of costs. I really can't afford a Pentium motherboard and CPU. I am not worried about upgrading CPUs anyway. Could I really go with a Cyrix or AMD? I was not sure about that either. Unfortunately, I am not an expert at Intel architectures. What I got from your answer was that I am by no means limited by SCSI controllers. I was going by the list of drivers given on NeXT Answers on the web. I couldn't find what drivers were already supported by r3.2. I can't spend $200+ for a SCSI controller anyway! I was looking in Computer Shopper for a system I could put together. The choices blew my mind and just added to my confusion over building one of these boxes... Any additional help from you or anyone else is greatly appreciated. I would love to join the rank of NeXT users, but I am starting from scratch. Thanks!!! -DC -Electric Eye "Keep the Faith and Defend It!- "You think you've private lives Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape I'm watching all the time." >Judas Priest, Electric Eye, 1982 (comiskey@netaxis.com)
From: Dion Dock <dion_dock@mentorg.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: is Daydream alive? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 17:10:32 -0800 Organization: Mentor Graphics Message-ID: <33026A08.64B1@mentorg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is the Daydream box still being sold? thanks, -dion
From: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de (Thomas Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printing Problems with HP LaserJet 5MP Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 10:36:36 GMT Organization: Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt) Message-ID: <5dkckp$h9c@news.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net> Hi, we use tow HP LaserJet 5MP printers in our office with external HP network adaptors. Often the printer "eats" print jobs, the printer gets the job, but doesn´t print it. Turning the printer off and on and resend the job prints the job fine. This problem occurs with print jobs from NEXTSTEP and Windows machines. I tested different PPD, but tit doesn´t solve the problem. Thanks for any help Thomas Thomas Richter, Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt, Germany EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: 13 Feb 1997 00:03:04 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5dtlno$l7l@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com> <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971236460001@news.tiac.net> Cc: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com In <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971236460001@news.tiac.net> James B. Frazer wrote: > In article <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com>, henry@norr.com (Henry > Norr) wrote: > > > Even if you don't have a solution, I'm curious about a couple of issues > > with this display: What's its frequency and resolution when running on the > > NextStation? And what exactly is the role of the soundbox? > > All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the > 21" is 75 dpi. The sound box provides integrated mike and speaker, as well > as line-outs and headphone jack. No idea about those DIP switches. > No, the NeXT ADB color monitors (Sony Trinitron) are 72 Hz refresh rate. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Millenium PowerDoc Edition? Date: 13 Feb 1997 05:53:11 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5dua87$5aj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5ddp73$10u@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> icardena@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian Patrick Cardenas) writes: > > Is anyone currently using the PowerDoc edition of the Matrox >Millenium? A sales rep from Matrox said it "should work" but I would >like someone to say "yes it definitely works." > Well... "it definitely works." :) I just installed my new Millenium PowerDoc and it works fine with the standard Matrox driver. Unfortunately, it seems Windows has benefitted a heck of a lot more than NEXTSTEP did. The video performance improved tremendously (something like 300%) under Win95 but only about 20% (using NXBench) under NEXTSTEP. I suppose it's all the spiffy "Windows acceleration" type things the matrox has. I'll have to play around with it some more to see if I can't tweak things. Any suggestions? PS I was upgrading from a generic S3-868 based PCI card. -- Ian P. Cardenas (icardena@uiuc.edu) CCSO Sites Technical Support "I am of the opinion that pizza and beer together are far superior to either in isolation." -James E. Quick on the Apple/NeXT merger
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: I am looking for NeXT magazines Date: 13 Feb 1997 05:05:26 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1202972008080001@i435.oro.net> If you have NeXT magazines that you wish to sell, I am searching for any NeXT based magazines like NeXTWorld, NeXTJournal, NeXT On Campus, etc... Let me know what you have and I will buy them from you. Thank You, Thomas
From: wmitchell@escape.ca (William Mitchell) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 20:49:15 GMT Organization: escape communications corp. Message-ID: <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tue, 11 Feb 1997 09:59:08 GMT, Andy Eder <sp1edea@doc.ntu.ac.uk> wrote: <snip> >Make sure that you buy a motherboard capable of supporting the MMX. A lot >of people are buying the MMX only to realise that their motherboard >doesn't support it. To support the MMX, you need a dual voltage capable >motherboard - that is, a motherboard that can supply a 2.8v and 3.3v to >the MMX's core and i/o. Performance wise, I would definitely recommend >the MMX if you're in a position to purchase one. <snip> Another option is to wait for Intel's MMX 3.3v chip. This chip will work on single voltage P75-200 mainboards. Although, I'm sure Intel's pricing will be much like their previous overdrive chips (too much money). William Mitchell Anti-Spam email option enabled - remove the last l in my name to email me ;)
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 13 Feb 1997 08:36:31 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> In article <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com>, planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> wrote: >My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently >repairing my NeXTprinter. > >We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the >NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? > >...................................kris >-- >Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT. You don't need the complete roller, even if it is available. Just take the rubber jacket off the roller, turn it inside out, and replace it. Good as new (if you had the skills to disassemble and re-assemble everything correctly and without damage). I've done it. Does not take long. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: priss@tcp.com (Lisa Richardson) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 13 Feb 97 16:51:58 GMT Organization: The Commnet Project Message-ID: <priss.855852718@tcp.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> Hmmm... I was under the impression it is not the problem of just having a Dual Voltage MB, but an MB that supports the MMX chip period. There have been a lot of Dual Voltage Pentium Boards and Dual Voltage Pentium CPUs (In fact, I happen to have DEALT with a Dual Voltage Pentium CPU, but couldn't tell that it was until I tried turning on the computer and it acting as if it had no CPU). -- Lisa Richardson (aka Priss on about a half dozen MUCKs) priss@glia.biostr.washington.edu and/or priss@anime.tcp.com "Live fast, Die young, and make hearts melt as you go away" - Lisa Richardson Priss the MUF Wizard of _AnimeMUCK_ at anime.tcp.com (206.40.34.130) 2035
From: semelab plc <semelab@semelab.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: !!!WRAM HELP!!! Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 15:59:15 +0000 Organization: semelab plc Distribution: world Message-ID: <83AtvGATjeAzEww2@semelab.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Please help! Does anyone out there have ANY application notes relating to Samsung's 1MB KM4232W59 ?? I'm not sure if I'm posting to the correct place, but any help would be greatly appriciated. TIA Tim Hawkins -- semelab plc
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 13:37:43 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E5Jn6w.7L@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> In article <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> "Carl A. Carlson" <ccarlson@primenet.com> writes: > I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple > Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Yes... I picked one up very cheap too - it will hang off the serial port. I made up the cable myself (I think the printer has the wrong gender socket on, so it's not a standard cable, but its not that hard to figure out). Software installation is totally point and click, and it just works. Downside is that the printer only does serial at 9600. A neater option is to hang the printer off a mac with appletalk, run lpd on the mac, and get the NeXT to print to the Mac via ether. $an
From: mparent@unix-mikesparc.mcgh.org (Mike Parent) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Compatible Notebooks? Date: 13 Feb 1997 14:50:33 GMT Organization: Mount Clemens General Hospital Message-ID: <5dv9np$jr7@misgate.mcgh.org> Anyone have any experience/insight about which notebooks are supported by NeXT 3.3? We have one, a Toshiba Tecra 730, but are looking at some other models..all high end, but I'm not sure if I can get drivers,etc for them. Any info is much appreciated Mike
From: ayadi@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: US Robotics Sportster Vi 28.8 Int Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:15:38 GMT Message-ID: <3303841b.36524376@news1.ibm.net> Have a US Robotics Sportster Vi 28.8 Internal Modem for sale. Asking $65 + shipping. If interested please email me at ayadi@ibm.net. Jauvid Wilmington, NC
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: 13 Feb 1997 21:38:25 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5e01kh$i0r@news.grolier.fr> References: <WEGMANN.97Feb12165352@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: >I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach >to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact >that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my >range of choices is now as follows: > >- Toshiba XM-3801B >- Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) >- Pioneer DR-U12x >3. I understand from earlier postings in c.p.c.h that Toshiba does DAE > (Digital Audio Extraction) only with annoyingly simple speed, while > the Plextor can do this at a much higher speed with the supplied > Windows software? Is it possible only with proprietary software or > is there any freely available software (besides the OmniCD 0.5alpha > version under NEXTSTEP) that can be used for all drives? I have an old Toshiba x2 (XM3401B). I can record CD-audio to HD, or play it while working. I use playcd a command line program. Look at playcd or play3401. >4. Toshiba seems to be available only in a tray version. Does anybody > know of a caddy version? What about the Pioneer drive? I have a "PIONEER CD-ROM DR-U10X Rev 1.07", that is a 10X, not a 12X for 4 months. It works fine. No caddy for me. >5. Has anybody successfully used any of these drives at a NeXTstation? It works without problem on my NeXTstation. If I do a "dd if=... of=/dev/null bs=20k", I can read a CD-ROM at 1,5 MB/s, but if I write the file on a disk (a 4BG HD), I get 500 or 600 KB/s. This is because the SCSI of the NeXTstation is old and slow. >6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder > than slower drives. Is that true? The PIONEER 10X make no noice, only tha fans of the external box is making noice. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT Organization: Internet Gateway Corporation Message-ID: <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) wrote: >Stephen Lee <slee@rahul.net> writes: > >I went to a local PC dealer and he said that the 166-MMX can be > >plugged into my socket-7 Endeavor board which only supports 3.3v. > > > >I would like to know if this is true. >It is patently false; you may want to avoid that dealer in the future. >I cite from the introduction to application note "AP-580 Voltage >Guidelines For Pentium Processors With MMX(TM) Technology": > This application note is of particular importance due to the new > core voltage of the Pentium processor with MMX technology. Its split > voltage (2.8v core; 3.3v input/output) is in contrast to the Pentium > processor's unified voltage (3.3v core and input/output). > Motherboard designs must be modified to accommodate the Pentium > processor with MMX technology's new core voltage. Refer to Pentium > Processor Flexible Motherboard Guidelines (order #243187) for > additional information. >Convince yourself: http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/applnots/243186.htm Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, I mean what has he got to gain? He is probably referring to Intel's MMX 3.3v overdrive chip which will be out soon enough. This will of course allow Pentium boards to support MMX. Hope this helps Stephen make up his mind, too. Roy.
From: *lore@carabelli.com* (Kenneth Chen) Newsgroups: comp.publish.cdrom.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which modern CD-ROM drive to attach to a NeXTstation? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 04:58:07 GMT Organization: Carabelli Dental Systems Message-ID: <3303f01c.369167@news.isp.net> References: <WEGMANN.97Feb12165352@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12 Feb 1997 16:53:51 GMT, wegmann@talisker.linguistics.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Frank Wegmann) wrote: >I'm currently looking for a new CD ROM drive which I intend to attach >to a NeXTstation mono (at least for a while). Apart from the fact >that I probably can't exploit all features on my trusty black box, my >range of choices is now as follows: > >- Toshiba XM-3801B >- Plextor 12Plex (caddy version) >- Pioneer DR-U12x All are good choices, but out of the three, only the Plextor 12Plex will perform as advertised. The 3801B 15x does not really read at 15x - only on certain areas of the CD. >2. Plextor claims to deliver "true 12speed", i.e. 1.8MB/sec data > transfer rate "at every location on the disc". Toshiba says their > drive has "up to 2,250 KB/s sustained data transfer rate". > (Similar values for random access Plextor:105ms, Tosh.: <99ms) Toshiba's 2250 kb/s is only on the outside (or was that inside?) of the disc. Either way, it is only on a section. It is true that the Plextor can maintain a 12x speed on every section of the disc. I have one. > > Now, the Toshiba seems to be marginally faster, although the Plextor > features a 512KB buffer (Tosh. 256KB). Which one's faster for what > purpose? (Does the larger buffer have any noticeable advantage?) The Tosh is NOT marginally faster. If you put them side by side, there is a good chance that the Plextor will perform better due to its CLV head which allows it to read at 12x everywhere on the disc and its 512KB buffer. >6. Somebody told me that drives above 8x speed are noticeably louder > than slower drives. Is that true? Yes. They are. The vibration is quite loud, especially if the drive is not secured to the drive cage. Kenneth -- NOTE: Please remove the asterisks (*) from my e-mail to reply.
From: Lars Immisch <immisch@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice needed on printer for NeXTstation Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 14:21:37 +0100 Organization: Immisch, Becker & Partner Message-ID: <33031561.CAA@pobox.com> References: <5draqk$imj@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5drtom$sgg@sjx-ixn5.ix.netcom.com> <5dsgml$q0h$1@shadow.skypoint.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit jalegre@andante-systems.com wrote: > Anyone have any experience serving a NeXT Printer to NT using the > OpenStep 4.0 Samba binaries? Do I need some sort of postscript > translator on the NT side? > > All comments welcome. > You don't need samba, you can also install the so-called TCP/IP print services on NT. This gives you vanilla lpr access on the NT box. NT comes with a postscript printer driver, but I did experience trouble with printing postscript from NT. To my knowledge, the postscript was at fault. Lars -- mailto:immisch@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~immisch Yesterdays yellow yoyo can make you yawn today
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OUCH! Bathing a keyboard... Date: 14 Feb 1997 03:42:48 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Message-ID: <slrn5g7n0u.8lf.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> In article <slrn5fvsqe.717.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu>, Paul R. Brown wrote: >Well, I managed to spill a sugary, caffeinated substance into the >keyboard of my turboslab, and it ceased working. I'm now typing to you >from my extra keyboard (complete with "\" up above the return key...) >So, can I expect my keyboard to recover? Anything I can do to help it? >I've already disassembled it to help it dry and cleaned it up as much >as I can without introducing more liquid. Thanks to everyone for their advice. I ended up disassembling the keyaboard and rinsing the mechanics briefly in normal, cool water. I spilled 5-10cc of Snapple lemon iced tea in there, but an overnight dry (after violent shaking) did the trick and all of the keys work again. I've gotten used to the "\" up high now (I had programmed it to ALT-/.), so I'll stick with the old keyboard for a while. Cheers. -- _____________________________________________________________________ Paul Brown Grad student, UCB mathematics (510)-843-7817 pbrown@math.berkeley.edu http://math.berkeley.edu/~pbrown/ NeXTmail preferred. _____________________________________________________________________
From: "Chang Song" <csong@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT detects two IDE hard disk instead of one; Stuck Date: 14 Feb 1997 05:06:28 GMT Message-ID: <01bc1a5e$a6494940$f3ab48a6@junghwa.third-wave.com> Hi. I am stuck. I played around Norton disk editor and touched NeXT hard disk's boot blocks and some other blocks. Can't boot. Even when I tried sd()mach_kernel on boot prompt with floppy NeXT installation disk, it seemed that most of devide drivers were damaged, too. I decided to delete my Windows 95 (internal Fujitsu 1606TAU EIDE 1GB) and installed NIS3.3. Just for the hope that I could be able to recover some important files on my home directories. I only have one disk on primary IDE controller. I downloaded latest EIDE driver. Jumper setting on the drive is OK. Actually I have been disabled internal IDE controller to boot from SCSI disk on which current NIS 3.3 is installed. When NeXT tried to recognized IDE hard disk, it report two hard disks are present and resetting hc0. And stuck there very very long time. Then I saw it finally recognize Fujitsu disk. Then wait for long for other non-exist hard disk. Then reseting again. Then when it finally gives up, fatal error. I have a choice either to reboot or go into monitor. Has anyone had the same problem? Can anybody enlight me on this? Thanks in advance. ---------- Chang Song (csong@ibm.net) Concurrent Technologies Corp.
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <#ZY6KEgG8GA.57@uptgmsnb01> Date: 14 Feb 1997 06:03:09 GMT Control: cancel <#ZY6KEgG8GA.57@uptgmsnb01> Message-ID: <cancel.#ZY6KEgG8GA.57@uptgmsnb01> Sender: scanning@XXX1324noreply.com (Cyber Services) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: "Paul McGuire" <paulmc@dlc.fi> Newsgroups: comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wanted BIOS upgrade. Please assist. Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:41:13 GMT Organization: Data Link Connections Message-ID: <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc> Hi. I got a Microstar 5129 M/B and wish to upgrade the BIOS to make it compatible with MMX chips. Only problem is I dont know where to get the BIOS upgrade from. Please help.Paul....
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 1997 08:57:55 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> I am currently looking at my options for adding a bunch of devices to my primary workstation. I alternately run NS3.3 and OS 4.x on this box. I currently boot from a FW drive on a 2940UW. I have the option of upgrading my current internal FW cable, and purchasing several wide to narrow adaptors. This and the other miscelleny required would cost me about $150. A better solution would be for me to purchase a narrow PCI SCSI adapator. Since slower devices including tape and CD would hang off of this, it would also improve my overall throughput for backups. I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: ismora <ismora@altern.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Optical disk, dying ? Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:12:04 GMT Sender: ismora <ismora@altern.org> Message-ID: <199702141612.QAA12581@altern.com> Errors-To: ismora <ismora@altern.org> Hello, I have acquiered an used Sony SMO-500 magneto-optical drive with SCSI interface. The drive makes stranges noises when the heads move, like if a rubber belt was ripping or something like that. I equally had the SCSI interface reporting "HARDWARE ERROR" during data copy, in which case all (computer and drive) hang up. Does it sound like the drive has reached the end of its life ? Did someone have the same problems, suggest a diagnostic ? Is there something to do/replace before it's too late ? Thanks for your help, Ismora. PS: please reply by mail as I have seldom access to this newsgroup. PS2: I know this message is more relevant on comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage (it was posted in that group too), but I allowed myself to post here as NeXT stations were often delivered with OD, and I suppose NeXT users are experienced with OD failures ... Thanks for your comprehension.
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 14 Feb 1997 09:05:39 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> wrote: : In article <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com>, : planetary <planet@xmission.xmission.com> wrote: : >My friend Lyle, the Apple-authorized service technician, is presently : >repairing my NeXTprinter. : > : >We need a part number for the paper pickup roller assembly in the : >NeXTprinter to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? : > : >...................................kris : You don't need the complete roller, even if it is available. Just take the : rubber jacket off the roller, turn it inside out, and : replace it. Good as new (if you had the skills to disassemble : and re-assemble everything correctly and without damage). I've done : it. Does not take long. I already did this, thanks. But I still want the part number to properly do the job. Anyone know what that part number is? .............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com (Eric Chu) Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Message-ID: <E5Lr6t.8JI@ceco.ceco.com> Sender: root@ceco.ceco.com (Operator) Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co. References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 16:59:16 GMT Christian Neuss (neuss@NO.SPAM) wrote: : altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: : a lot of development, you might consider running a Pentium as a : compile server anyway. A *huge* improvement in compilation speed. Ergh...stupid question from an engineer. Let's say I have gcc on both my pentium pc and my black running openstep 4.0 developer. I am trying to modify a makefile for tcl/tk to run on black. Can I have the pc do the compilation with all of the switches, lib and everything else done on black? many thanks in advance semi-clueless professional. eric chu echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com : Regards, : Chris : -- : // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." : // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ : // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac ADB mouse on Turbo not registering Date: 14 Feb 1997 02:17:05 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5e0hv1$l7l@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I tried replacing the NeXT ADB mouse (which cramps my hand) on a Turbo Color NeXTstation with an Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II. When I power up the NeXTstation, the boot process doesn't register the mouse. So when the reboot is complete, the mouse doesn't do anything. I have to reboot the NeXTstation with the NeXT ADB mouse attached, then swap with the Mac mouse once it's rebooted, and the Mac mouse works fine. So, is there any way to get the NeXTstation to properly register the Mac ADB II mouse during power up? And, are there any other ADB mice on the market that will be correctly registered during power up (Contour, Mac Point II, IPM2?) Thanks for any info. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: NeXT Printer problems Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 13:10:04 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this fix. -Greg
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From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: 14 Feb 1997 18:43:47 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5e2bp3$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. This can be a problem with the mechanics within the printer, however, I also noticed that differently weighted paper makes a heck of a difference as well. Buy paper specifically for laser printers and not just copier paper. Mine here will work fine with for instance the multipurpose HP paper, but it will barf on any plain xerox paper. -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal), <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work)
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 97 14:30:45 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb14143045@slave.one.net> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> In-reply-to: jq@papoose.quick.com's message of 14 Feb 1997 08:57:55 -0500 In article <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com>, jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) writes: I am currently looking at my options for adding a bunch of devices to my primary workstation. I alternately run NS3.3 and OS 4.x on this box. I currently boot from a FW drive on a 2940UW. I have the option of upgrading my current internal FW cable, and purchasing several wide to narrow adaptors. This and the other miscelleny required would cost me about $150. A better solution would be for me to purchase a narrow PCI SCSI adapator. Since slower devices including tape and CD would hang off of this, it would also improve my overall throughput for backups. My system has both an NCR810(Fast) and an NCR825(Fast/Wide, only using the narrow connector, though) in it. It works fine, but ... o It took some putzing to get both working for both NS3.3 and OS. Weirdly enough, the order of the cards made a difference - one OS would boot with them one way, the other wouldn't boot unless they were swapped. Eventually I fixed this with a "Location" entry in the Instance0.table for the OpenStep driver, now I can boot either. o I am unable to boot from the NCR825 card when the NCR810 card is present, though I can boot fine from the 810 when the 825 is present, or from the 825 when the 810 isn't present. This is _probably_ due to interactions with the NCR SCSI BIOS on my motherboard (I'm assuming it just takes over and does it's stuff). o I've not tried boot-prompt magic to do the bootsector boot from the 810, and toss control off to a disk on the 825. It would _probably_ work, though, assuming you had the OS there configured correctly. Since these adapters were only $68 (810) and $95 (825), it might be a reasonable solution. If your motherboard has an onboard SCSI BIOS and you want to boot from the 2940UW, you'll _probably_ have to hack a BIOS without the SCSI BIOS and flash it over your current BIOS. I'd assume that with no onboard SCSI BIOS, your motherboard _can't_ go ape on this stuff :-). Alternately, you could put a small bootstrap disk on the NCR card, and have it boot NS/OS off of a disk on the 2940UW card. If this works, it would be a reasonable option, because you could get the 2940UW advantages (whatever those might be), while still being able to work with the CD-ROM and NeXT's install disks. NeXT's install stuff _may_ not care if the CD-ROM is on the second controller, but I'm pretty sure that out of all the operating systems out there, _some_ of them are going to care. Of course, there's always the possibility that your 2940UW will go into mortal combat with an NCR card. One option would be to get an UW NCR card for $125 or so (I think that's where they are) plus an NCR 810 card for $70 or so, and dump the 2940UW. :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days>
From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:06:07 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <cward-1402971106120001@adnline1191.adnc.com> Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? How did you wire yours? I made null modem according to Man pages. Printer just keeps loading and spitting out unprinted pages Like it is stuck on form feed... Help! CW
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 14 Feb 1997 18:42:13 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: [..] -- Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal), <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work)
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:14:27 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <3304B993.1382@gl.umbc.edu> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> <5e2bp3$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote: > >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in > >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with > >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this > >fix. > > This can be a problem with the mechanics within the printer, however, I also > noticed that differently weighted paper makes a heck of a difference as well. > Buy paper specifically for laser printers and not just copier paper. > > Mine here will work fine with for instance the multipurpose HP paper, but it > will barf on any plain xerox paper. > > -- > Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal), <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) Well mine feeds intermitently. sometimes i can hear the motor wind up and then it feeds, but most of the time i hear the engine wind up and not the motor. then it tries to print with no paper feeding. -Greg
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 14:16:43 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <3304BA1B.4552@gl.umbc.edu> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: unknown Christian Kuhtz wrote: > > Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what > is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? > > planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: > [..] > > -- > Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal), <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) it's not the roller. it has something to do with the motor. Sometimes i hear it wind up, but most of the time it doesn't -Greg
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 14 Feb 1997 19:46:03 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5e2fdr$2gs@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> James E. Quick writes > I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the > Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration > was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether > multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. > > Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? Our file server has two 2940AU adapters in it. Up 16 days: 2:45pm up 16 days, 18:32, 1 user, load average: 0.12, 0.25, 0.39 No problems. leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXT/MIME) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.net-analysis,comp.dcom.net-management,comp.os.netware.connectivity,comp.os.netware.misc,comp.os.netware.security,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.protocols.nfs,comp.networks.noctools.bugs,comp.networks.noctools.d,comp.sys.northstar Subject: cmsg cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 14 Feb 1997 21:53:53 GMT Control: cancel <23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.23.0072463750839@news.xs4all.nl> Sender: cruel@xs4all.nl (Bart) Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 15 Feb 1997 06:19:38 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> spdwell@adnc.com writes: > Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? > Anything? There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that only fit into the Turbo-series systems. These are pretty much the only options. I haven't tried putting a Newer Technologies' chip replacement board into a system yet, but I have a feeling that it simply will not work. Perhaps Sam Goldberger could post some technical morsels here for those of us who are more interested? gdm [1] 68040-based machines only. I know of no way to accelerate an '030 system, other than upgrading to an '040 board.
From: eugenem@ix.netcom.com (Eugene Mah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: Sat, 15 Feb 97 01:03:35 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5e323p$sqf@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu>, gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. >-Greg A common problem that occurs is that the rubber pick-up roller that grabs the paper out of the paper tray gets a little dry. The problem is characterized by a partial feed where the paper is only partly sucked into the printer. I managed to get rid of this problem by getting this stuff called Rubber Renue and using it to clean off the roller. Should work with any rubber rejuvnating compound. Eugene Mah --------------------------------------------------------------------- Eugene Mah, M.Sc. eugenem@rad.hfh.edu Medical Physics Fellow eugenem@ix.netcom.com Physics and Engineering Division "For I am a Bear of Very Little Department of Radiology Brain, and long words Bother Henry Ford Hospital, Detroit, MI me." Winnie the Pooh http://raddi.uah.ualberta.ca/~eugene/ PGP KeyID = 0x1F9779FD or 0xE37A1591 PGP key available on request O- ---------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: 14 Feb 1997 17:08:23 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5e32a7$li@mpaque.mpaque> References: <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> In article <5do3bl$t23$1@shadow.skypoint.net> jalegre@andante-systems.com writes: > Last week a hardware engeneer at NeXT told me that all cubes need > 72-pin low profile SIMMS with a min speed of 80 and max speed set only > by $$$. He did say that anything above 100 was a waste of $$$, but he > did say that 72 pin low profile were a must. The company formerly known as NeXT hasn't had hardware engineers for a while... Older designs used 30 pin low profile SIMMs, the NeXTStation Color used 72 pin 80 ns SIMMs, and the Turbo machines used 72 pin 100 or 70 ns SIMMs. From Le FAQ: References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo" NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz), NeXTcube (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 16 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile> SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 64 MB The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously. Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect parity errors. It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Bell Atlantic/DecisionOne, keepers of the remaining hardware parts. The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph. NeXTdimension boards (i860): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4, 8 MB (256Kx32, 1Mx32, 2Mx32) Maximum RAM: 64 MB (32 MB official NeXT) NeXT didn't officially bless the use of 8 MB SIMMs, but they seem to fit and work. (NeXT Marketing didn't know these existed. Engineering designed for them - mpaque) NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers below ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 32 MB Faster SIMMS (70/80 ns) don't make the memory system work any faster than the 100 ns units. NeXTstation Color (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 8 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 80 ns5 SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 32 MB NeXTcube Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstation Color Turbo (68040-33MHz), NeXTstations (68040-25MHz) serial numbers above ABB 002 6300: Number SIMM slots: 4 SIMM group size: 2 SIMM type: 72-pin SIMM access rating: 70/100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 ,8, 16, 32 MB (256Kx32/256Kx36, 1Mx32/1Mx36) Maximum RAM: 128 MB For maximum performance use 70 ns SIMMs: SIMMs rated at 80 or 100 ns will be detected upon powerup and the memory system clock slowed to 100 ns. NeXT manufacturing introduced the new 25 MHz NeXTstation CPU board into production in late June '92. To verify which SIMM type your machine uses, check the system's memory configuration. You can do this by using the ROM monitor s print memory configuration command m. Start with your machine powered down. Press the Power key to power on. As soon as the message Testing system... disappears, press command-command-tilde ( on the numeric keyboard). Under these circumstances, this will access the ROM monitor. In the ROM monitor, type m and press return. Turbo-designed boards including new 25 MHz NeXTstations and all Turbo systems will return messages reporting the memory configuration contained in four sockets (sockets 0 -3); old 25 MHz boards will return messages for more than four sockets (usually 8). You can tell a Turbo-designed board, and the accompanying 72 pin, 70 nanosecond SIMMs, by the fact it only reports information for only four sockets. The memory system has programmable memory timing such that the number of processor clocks needed to access a given amount of data can be tailored to the speed of the memory installed. 70 ns memory is just enough faster than 80 ns memory to allow the cpu to access the data with fewer clock cycles. This improves memory system performance. "70 ns" memory is faster than "80 ns" memory in many parameters other than just RAS access time. The faster CAS access time in particular allows the memory system to respond quicker to burst (16 bytes) bus transfers. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 3 Feb 1997 15:14:01 GMT Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook Message-ID: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a machine die on Friday. -Richard Larson SUNY Stony Brook
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:27:30 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5e3hg2$opd@news2.cais.com> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> In-Reply-To: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> I am currently running two SCSI controllers in my Pentium Pro system. One is the Adaptec 2940UW and the other is the Adaptec 2940N. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 15 Feb 1997 05:41:39 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? Anything?
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: NeXT Printer problems Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:50:50 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5e3psq$djc@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu> In article <3304AA7C.1F68@gl.umbc.edu>, Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote: >My 400 DPI printer is causing my NeXT to give me the "Paper is jammed in >your printer" message. i understand that this is a common problem with >next printers. Is there some way to fix it myself? If so what is this >fix. >-Greg If it jams on input, the rubber jacket on the input roller needs to be taken off, reversed, and put back on again. This requires disassembling and re-assembling some parts, so you need suitable skills and information. http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html helps. If it jams on output, you need a new gear wheel. I haven't had to do that to mine yet. Check out the above web site. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 07:45:40 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5e3pj4$dbc@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> In article <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>, Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote: > > >Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what >is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? > > >planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) wrote: >[..] > >-- >Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal), <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work) Check out http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: Robert Trout <rtrout@capecod.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need help with Nextstep 3.2 install Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 08:37:48 -0600 Message-ID: <3305CA3C.3E9A@capecod.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I purchased a Turbo Color Nextstation with no hard drive. I installed a new Hawk 2XL 1.0 GB (ST31055N) drive as SCSI device 1. I then attempted a complete installation of Nextstep 3.2. However typing the Command ~ keys after the “Testing System...” message does not enter the ROM monitor. Instead the dialog box alternates between “Loading from disk...” and “ SCSI error” messages. What am I doing wrong? Does the new disk have to be initialized in an existing Next system before installation? Thanks for your help. Robert Trout
From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP C1536 DAT dip switches Date: 15 Feb 1997 14:46:50 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5e4i8q$8rq@dropit.pgh.net> HP doesn't tell you what all the dip switches do, but they do provide recommended settings for a number of Unix systems. Unfortunately, they don't mention NeXT. Can anybody provide settings for the NeXT cube, and while you are at it, explain what the various switches do? Thanks. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will HP IIISi toner cartridge work in NeXT LaserPrinter? Date: 15 Feb 1997 02:18:02 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5e36cq$n9o@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Cc: sanguish@digifix.com I need to buy a toner cartridge for a NeXT LaserPrinter. The NeXT FAQ <http://happy.gac.peachnet.edu/next-ha2.html> says: >Subject: M9. What are some other sources of toner cartridges and trays for the NeXT laser >printer? > >The toner cartridge is a standard EP-S cartridge, the same that fits the HP LaserJet >III and some other printers. > >[From: sanguish@digifix.com] > >Any HP LaserJet II or III will fit. HPLJ4mSI cartridges do NOT fit. Now, the only HP toner cartridge with their "Microfine" toner for a LaserJet III is the HP# 92291A, for the HP LaserJet IIISi, 4Si, and 4Si MX printers. And HP's Web page <http://hpcc997.external.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/BPL01881.html> lists an EP-S cartridge for the IIISi. But, is this the HPLJ4mSI cartridge that sanguish@digifix.com says doesn't fit? Thanks for any clarification, Lee -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: *Bards@shore.net (Glenn Visser) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: 15 Feb 1997 15:26:58 GMT Organization: Glennserv Netware 4.11 Message-ID: <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com>, bear@indra.com says... >emon@gte.com wrote: >> Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse. They sell used/refurbished hard drive >> as new. > >Uh, that's a classic example of _fraud_. Are you absolutely sure >that they represented the drives as "new," or did you overlook fine >print stating that the drives may have been used or refurbished? > >This brings up another point that I've found a few sites trying. >Someone's web page with "<FONT SIZE=1>These drives may be used</FONT>" >is probably not legal notice. A clean paper font in 4 points is >marginally legible, but I've seen some web sites where the text >was literally only 2 or 3 pixels high! Likewise a disclaimer in >white-on-white probably has no legal weight. > >> And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive >> starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has >> expired. Several years ago I worked for one of the Gray marketers and we sold a load of Drives to Bason so I can probably clarify something here. I imagine the situation is still much the same with Bason and many others. I don't work at this place anymore, I'm now an MIS dept "suit". Those of you aware of the practice I detail please bear with me. There are people in this world who just have an office and phone lines and they are the middleman between what someone has and what someone wants. I worked for one such place that dealt with computer parts. I was the resident nerd and part of my job was to figure out what we had bought, and give the lists to the sales people. Lets say for example that DEC planned to build 1000 units of a PC and only really sold 500. The parts for the other 500 are sitting in the warehouse taking up space, and in the case of the hard drives, Seagate has sold the drive to DEC so the warranty period clock is ticking from the moment of sale. DEC dumps the product when the warranty expires to DEC. (which at the time was only a year from sale) I assume they do it because they do not wish to risk selling product that if it fails does not give DEC a way to replace the unit under warranty. This product is sold in large lots auction style to dealers "in the know" and then the guys with the phones start schlepping it around piecing it out. In the case of Bason we had bought 3 tractor trailer loads of DEC PC parts and Bason bought a dozen pallets of a Seagate 330mb (st2383n) scsi drive. Approx 1500 units. The Bason dude himself flew out from the west coast to inspect the lot and personally watched me load the shipment and seal the trailer. ***** The drives were brand new, never been opened! ***** ***** Still in the DEC OEM box. ***** But the warranty was expired with Seagate. So this is what Bason and many others are probably doing. You are getting a new drive at a great price. And it IS new so they can say that, but it's end of life product. You need to know what you are buying and don't assume that what someone is selling is the current model. We were selling a 330mb "new" scsi drive 3 1/2 years ago for $200 individually. A great price at the time, and we had people breaking down the door for them. We sold over 4K of these drives in a few weeks. I think Bason got the lot of 1500 for $165 ea so that was nearly $25K and the reason he was present to inspect. I will say this. At the time this deal went down he (Bason) was polite and thorough and his check was good. I had to prove to him the drives were good by formatting some random drives he picked right off the pallets, and then as I said he was present when we went to the warehouse and watched over the loading. I would buy from them, and just did try to buy a drive from Bason this week but they were out. But I know what questions to ask and have done my research so I know if I'm buying a current model or not. Hopefully all readers of this thread are now more educated also. And I can still see the look of fear on Basons face when halfway through loading he noticed I also had an equivalent amount of 170mb drives on pallets in identical style boxes sitting side by side with the 330's. We had to stop and I had to prove I hadn't been giving him 170's. Me and a (50?)year old chinaman in a suit crawling through the truck. :-) Another point of interest in a related thread, someone asked about Yorkshire Computer in this group recently. John was buying these drives 50 at a wack. He would come by and we would load them in his station wagon. This was before he moved out to Wisconson. I was sorry to see him go. He was a decent guy and another who's money was good. I would buy from him.
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:55:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg33452.thr-1ec727.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg33452.thr-1ec727.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I just purchased an '040 cube (though it hasn't even arrived yet). The box has only 8 megs of memory (8 one-meggers) so of course I want to populate it as heavily as possible immediately after its arrival. Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. What's the truth? We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or will it only function with 1 or 1 meg units. In the mac world, only the IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for example--I've found a few of those too). I'd like to place an order for both additional memory and a 2-gig disc such that I have the components on hand when the box arrives next week. Thanks for your replies. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 10:55:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg33454.thr-1ec727.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg33454.thr-1ec727.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I just purchased an '040 cube (though it hasn't even arrived yet). The box has only 8 megs of memory (8 one-meggers) so of course I want to populate it as heavily as possible immediately after its arrival. Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. What's the truth? We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or will it only function with 1 or 4 meg units. In the mac world, only the IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for example--I've found a few of those too). I'd like to place an order for both additional memory and a 2-gig disc such that I have the components on hand when the box arrives next week. Thanks for your replies. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help with ISDN on NeXTstation Message-ID: <E5GIEA.vE@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> Date: Tue, 11 Feb 1997 21:01:22 GMT In article <32FF6E35.41C67EA6@es.com> "Jason M. Smith" <jsmith@es.com> writes: > Hi all, I recently purchased a NeXTstation package, and as part of the > deal, a Hayes ISDN Extender was thrown in. I'd like to at least look > into the possibility of using the station as the central hub for a PPP > hookup to my work, via ISDN. A couple of questions however... > > 1) I don't have any documentation for the ISDN adapter. Are > there any problems known with this unit? Is it simply plug 'n' play, > as I suspectit to be? > The problem is that the development for this device was discontinued long ago and ISDN implementations in the US were rather rudimentary in those days. There are only two exchanges tested with it, an early AT&T and a Northern Telecom unit. Support for the much more widely deployed European systems was planned but never started... You can try. The features were great (at least very promising), I've been told. But to state it loud and clear, the thing would be a venture into the field of software archeology. P.S.: there is also a Hayes ISDN extender in my collection of NeXT memorabilia. But the downgrade to NS 3.0 was too much for my guts ;-) -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 13:26:46 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001502971326460001@news.tiac.net> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I notice that most of the houses that sell grey market drives are careful to explain what they are. I bought a drive from Bason a year or more ago, and have no complaints about their service. They were quick to replace an incompatible interface card. I wonder if the original poster tried to get a replacement from them, rather than the drive maker. I will say that the external drive enclosure they used was unsuitable, with inadequate airflow for a "hot" drive. And the fan has now failed, so I can't use it for the odd small drives lying around here. But it was essentially free so ... Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:32:30 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5e530e$6kt@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> wrote: : Having read all the different suggestions for how to repair that roller, what : is the proper way to disassemble he NeXTprinter in the first place? I'm no service technician, and I feel embarrassed to even take a stab at a technical summary of how to disassemble the printer. But if you remove the hinged lid, unscrew everything that looks like it is retaining a nonessential component (read: bezels, facades, etc.), and take care to not force anything, you should be able to disassemble it with not much trouble. After all, if I can disassemble and reassemble an entire Vespa this way, you should be able to do the same with the printer. I remember Lyle was having problems with the key that retains the roller on the cylinder, but it wasn't too difficult for him to get it locked into place. It took him about two hours to learn how to disassemble and reassemble the printer the first time he laid hands on my printer, and about a half an hour to do the same the second time. I suppose if you get stuck, you could email me and I could put you in touch with Lyle. Or I'm sure that for a reasonable fee, Lyle could refurbish your entire printer. But that would require getting the printer's components list, which is really what I'm after. ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: jbm@panix.com (John Mignault) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install problem on white hardware Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 14:38:49 -0500 Organization: The New York Times Message-ID: <jbm-ya023480001502971438490001@news.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, I'm trying to install Openstep 4.1 on an Intel box. I want to install to a 1GB hard drive attached to a Adaptec 1542CF. I set the card switches and software config as described in the NeXTAnswers doc on the web, and the disk I'm installing to has been set to SCSI ID 0. There's also a CD and a 2GB disk attached to the same controller, with higher IDs than the 1GB. The installer sees the CD and the disk just fine, and prompts me to install Openstep to the 1GB drive. However, when I go to install, it only offers to create a 431MB partition. Running fdisk indicates that the device itself is reporting its size correctly - 1001 MB - but the bios says it's only 431 MB. This happens whether or not I have the "large drives" setting enabled in the controller bios or not. Attempting to create a larger partition using fdisk directly just yields a "Cannot create that size partition" message. Hardware and software settings are: Switch Block Settings: sw1: off (software control termination) sw2 to sw4: off (I/O Port 330) sw5: on (disable integrated floppy controller) sw6 to sw8: off (BIOS Address DC00) Software Settings Port Address: 330 Host Adapter Interrupt (IRQ) Channel: 11 Host Adapter DMA Channel: 5 Host Adapter SCSI ID: 7 SCSI Parity Checking: Enabled DMA Transfer Rate: 5 MB/sec Host Adapter SCSI Termination: Enabled SCSI Device Configuration Enable Sync Negotiation: no for all devices Enable Disconnection: yes for all devices Send Start Unit Command: no for all devices Host Adapter BIOS (Configuration Utility Reserves BIOS Space): Enabled System Boot (INT 19h) Controlled by Host Adapter BIOS: Enabled Extended BIOS Translation for DOS Drives > 1 GByte: Disabled (I get the same result whther this is enbaled OR disabled) Support Removable Disks Under BIOS as Fixed Disks: Disabled Dynamically Scan SCSI Bus for BIOS Devices: Disabled BIOS Support for More Than 2 Drives (MS-DOS(R) 5.0 and above): Disabled Immediate Return On Seek Command: Enabled Any ideas or suggestiosn you might have are welcomed, especially if there's soemting essentially boneheaded I left out. John ___________________________________ John Mignault Graphics Systems Programmer The New York Times mignault@nytimes.com/jbm@panix.com Be Developer 6941 ___________________________________
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTprinter components Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:34:42 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5e534i$6p0@xmission.xmission.com> References: <5dr5m0$mj6@xmission.xmission.com> <5dujqf$ca8@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <5e22gj$4gk@xmission.xmission.com> <5e2bm5$lvh@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> <3304BA1B.4552@gl.umbc.edu> Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote: : it's not the roller. it has something to do with the motor. Sometimes : i hear it wind up, but most of the time it doesn't If it was the motor, you wouldn't hear it wind up at all, since one motor powers the entire printer using a system of gears. The "sometimes it winds up, sometimes it doesn't" was the result of a bad roller in my case, but YMMV. ..................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
From: Ryan Watkins <vamp@dimensionx.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SIMMs for '040 cube Date: 15 Feb 1997 12:15:10 -0800 Organization: Dimension X, Inc. http://www.dimensionx.com/ Message-ID: <yop20ahzv01.fsf@shellx.best.com> References: <msg33454.thr-1ec727.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > Unfortunately I'm getting conflicting information about the memory for > it. The previous owner says that it uses the same 30 pin simms that > macs used to use. A reply from a simm supplier who spams these groups > regularly says the next requires a special 9 chip variety of simm. > What's the truth? > > We no longer have any quantities of 30 pin simms here at all--they've > gone the way of the old macs. All I've been able to get my hands on are > 4 two-meg simms from an old IIsi. Will the cube handle 2-meg simms or > will it only function with 1 or 4 meg units. In the mac world, only the > IIsi and the IIci would work with 2-meg simms. > > What is the largest simm the cube handle? The smallest? (512K for > example--I've found a few of those too). The NeXT HArdware FAQ (available at http://www.omnigroup.com/Documentation/NEXTSTEP/FAQ.html, among other places) seems to indicate that it can take either 8 or 9 chip versions, in either 1 or 4 MB SIMMs. I'm not sure if it can use 2MB SIMMs though. ____________________________________________________________________________ Subject: N1. What type of memory may be installed in a NeXT? References: NeXTanswers' hardware.620, 92_spring_bulletin "Announcing NeXTstation Turbo and NeXTcube Turbo" NeXT Computer (68030-25MHz/68040-25MHz), NeXTcube (68040-25MHz): Number SIMM slots: 16 SIMM group size: 4 SIMM type: 30-pin low profile SIMM access rating: 100 ns SIMM capacity: 1, 4 MB (1x8/1x9, 4x8/4x9) Maximum RAM: 64 MB The low-profile vertically mounted 4 MB SIMMs are easier to install in the NeXTcube than the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs because of the small height clearance above the SIMM slots. It is possible to install the horizontally mounted 4 MB SIMMs, but you will be required to slide the CPU board and the center tower in simultaneously. Parity (9-bit) SIMMs can be used in both 68030 and 68040 NeXT machines, but should not be mixed with non-parity SIMMs. Only 68040 boards with ROM levels of 2.2 (v63) and higher can use the parity memory to detect parity errors. [One user adds the following unverified claims:] It is OK to mix parity and non-parity memory, but the system will not boot unattended. Cubes with early boot ROMs will not work with 4 Mb parity ram, unless at least 3 banks are used. The system gives an exception error on power up. The fix is to get a new boot rom from Next. You can pay $30, or you may be able to squawk and get one for free. I have found Next to be pretty responsive, once I find the right person. [Jimmie Quan, NeXT Hardware Service, adds:] The correct version is v66 which was the last or final rev for this series of 040 boards. This version also fixed the problem in the second paragraph. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains below shining citadels vamp@vamp.org surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs www.vamp.org eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb
From: wjo@magicnet.net (william overkleeft) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: For Sale AST 910N Active Matrix Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 21:03:49 GMT Organization: MagicNet, Inc. Message-ID: <330c248a.10368196@news.magicnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have put my Laptop AST 910N up for Auction at the E-Bay on-line auction. This is an active matrix display laptop and is in perfect condition. It cost $4000.00 when new 18 months ago. To see a picture of the computer and to bid on it go to: http://www.ebay.com/aw/item.cgi?item=tps3822 This can be a real deal for someone. Good Luck. Bill O.
From: Geoff Shukin <gps@link.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation of 3.2 on Intel Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 16:10:22 -0800 Organization: Integritas Systems News Server Message-ID: <3306506E.CB@link.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have been thinking of reinstalling NeXT for Intel after a long stint on the shelf. I have sucessfully installed NeXT on this system. It is using the first 900Meg of the drive. My question is what can I do to dual boot between say FreeBSD and NeXT? Thanks Geoff Shukin shukin@link.ca
From: cz@alembic.crystel.com (Chris Zach) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color NeXT printer cartridges Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:16:12 GMT Organization: IEEE Computer Society Message-ID: <5e5cjc$kq8@student.computer.org> References: <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Cc: gottliej@mathcs.carleton.edu In <5dqok0$cps@zorak.acns.carleton.edu> Jeremy Gottlieb wrote: > Hi. > We have a color NeXT printer that needs new ink cartridges. > Does anyone out there know either of the following: > 1) A place to get NeXT ink cartridges. > 2) Whether there are any other ink cartridges that will work > in the NeXT color printers. We suspect that cartridges from a Canon > printer might work, but don't know the model numbers or anything. > > Thanks. > > You want the Cannon BJI643C,Y,and M cartridges. They will work in a NS Color, as will any carts for a BJC820 printer. As for the black, I don't know. I bought a refill kit for a BJI643 (NOT THE SAME CART!!!), and I just keep on refilling my black cart. Currently I am on fill 8 or something... Office Depot in MD stocks them. Staples does not. Mind you, they are quite expensive. -- Time to take time For Spring will turn to Fall In just no time at all...
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:12:22 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5e5cc6$8rs@news.us.net> References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) wrote: >I know that the boot sequence supports a different driver for the >Boot drive and the CD, but am unsure whether this configuration >was just intended to support booting from ATAPI CDs or whether >multiple SCSI cards are fully supported. > >Does anyone know if this kind of configuration is supported? Supported, yes. Fully supported? No. Assuming you sort through any BIOS related problems, hard drives and the like should work without much fuss. However, scanners, the NeXT Color Printer, and other devices with their own drivers might not. They will most likely have to "hang" off the boot controller since the drivers for them do not take into account multiple SCSI controllers. They could, just most of them don't since it's not a popular configuration. There might be a workaround by setting every sg (scsi generic device) to point to another controller, but I never had a chance to try it out. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: francis@az.stratus.com (Francis Hartojo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTcube to ViewSonic monitor. Followup-To: poster Date: 15 Feb 1997 22:23:46 GMT Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5e5d1j$4kg@transfer.stratus.com> Hi, I'm just wondering if somebody has successfully connected a NeXTcube to an SVGA monitor? In my case the monitor would be a ViewSonic 17PS. Where can I get the cable (DB-15 to RGB or DB-15 to VGA)? Would it even work? Any setup gotchas? Any relevant info would be greatly appreciated. The FAQ explains how to connect a colour monitor to a colour NeXTstation, does that also apply to the cube (I think it's black and white)? Please send your responses to me directly: francis@az.stratus.com. Thank you very much. -- +------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+ | Francis Hartojo | Ph.: 602-852-3195 [Speaking for myself, | | Stratus Computer, Inc. | 800-294-1344 x3195 nobody else.] | | francis@az.stratus.com | Fax: 602-852-3099 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Message-ID: <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bchin@us.net Organization: Disorganization References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Date: Fri, 14 Feb 1997 10:48:06 GMT In <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed > up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not > complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) I read somewhere that the AMD K5 is considerably faster than the Intel.
From: april@wwa.com (april levin) Newsgroups: chi.forsale,alt.wanted,chi.wanted,comp.forsale,comp.forsale.computers,comp.hardware,comp.misc.forsale,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.nex,comp.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,alt.forsale,comp.misc Subject: WTB: complete NeXTstation system Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:59:29 -0600 Organization: geekxpos Message-ID: <april-1502971959290001@192.168.1.2> i am looking for any complete NeXTstation system including monitor, hd (minimum 500mb), RAM (minimum24), keyboard, ethernet card, and anything else you got for under $500. chicago area, but i will pay for shipping if the offer is worth it. send me email back cause i dont check newsgroups for responses often. thanks, april april levin * box 1611 skokie, il 60077 * wwa.com/~april
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 16 Feb 1997 03:34:36 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) wrote: >In <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > >> was enough for me to order the AMD K5 133, but my vendor screwed >> up and sent me a genuine new Intel Pentium 133. I'm not >> complaining since the Intel is $50 more. :-) > >I read somewhere that the AMD K5 is considerably faster than >the Intel. The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. With the P-speed benchmarks, AMD claims the AMD 100Mhz K5 is the same speed as a 133Mhz Pentium for integer operations (and thus calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's not substantiated. See http://www.sysdoc.pair.com/ and http://www.amd.com/ -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 00:56:13 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there cubes that had floppy drives in them? -Jeff Dutky
From: wli@pluto (Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: FS: NeXT Printer Toner Cartridge $28 Date: 16 Feb 1997 09:57:41 GMT Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Message-ID: <5e6lml$jtf@info.uah.edu> I have a brand new, unopenned toner cartridge for the NeXT laser printer. $28 + shipping. Please drop me a line at: wli@cs.uah.edu if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT monitors on Mac or PC? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 14:29:26 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970212141129.5777A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <AF24A34196688E9B8@ws5.macweek.xo.com> <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971236460001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001202971236460001@news.tiac.net> On Wed, 12 Feb 1997, James B. Frazer wrote: > All NeXT displays are 1120x832 pixels and 68Hz. The 17" is 92 dpi and the > 21" is 75 dpi. Not quite. Newer revision monitors (usually on ADB systems) run at 72 Hz. This chart of the models comes from the FAQ: Monitor NEW (72hz) OLD (68hz) 17" mono ACX (N4000b) AAA (N4000a \& N4000) 17" color ADF (N4006) ABG (N4001) 21" color ADB (N4005a) ABH (N4005) -Isaac
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Should I Buy Apple Laserwriter Plus ? Date: Wed, 12 Feb 1997 18:45:48 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970212184040.5777D-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Carl A. Carlson" <ccarlson@primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <3301B80F.56E1@primenet.com> On 12 Feb 1997, Carl A. Carlson wrote: > I'm a Mac programmer. My NeXT Station is on order. I can buy an Apple > Laserwriter Plus very cheap. Will it work on the NeXT Station? Yes, but very slowly (as you'll have to hook it up to a serial port at 9600 bps). I'd get a used NeXT Laser Printer instead - they're 400 dpi, 8ppm, use standard EP-S toner cartridges (like Apple LaserWriter II's or HP LaserJet II or III's), are reasonably fast (not to mention they're black. :)). They can be found in good shape for $200-$250 used. -Isaac
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 12:09:03 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> Contrary to an opinion expressed elsewhere in the NeXT groups, I have found the experienced readers and participants here to be _very_ helpful and eager to assist. Indeed, I am very nearly ashamed to have taken such advantage of so many of them when I know they are busy with real work--I just hope they realize how much easier they have made my real work (and I'm sure others as well) through their generosity. And so, to further A) expose the depth of my ignorance, and, B) continue exploiting the good will of the group, a preface, followed by a series of questions: Like so many new readers here, we are a Mac shop eagerly beginning the process of porting our applications to Openstep and beginning to make plans to deploy a number of openstep machines in three laboratories now under construction in a new building. These will consist of a combination of Intel and PPC machines. At present, several of us have acquired some pretty high end Intel equipment for our offices and we're learning. Since I learn best by doing (and doing and doing and doing) I've also purchased a used '040 cube that I'm in the process of reconfiguring for home use. To that end I've ordered a new 2 gig scsi drive, acquired another smaller drive for swap files, an internal Apple CD-ROM drive, purchased 64 megs of RAM, and the 4.1 academic developer bundle. My questions: 1) since a cube has no floppy, how am I to install the 4.1 CD? I acquired the cube with 3.x on the original 345 meg drive. Will I be able to connect both the internal CD (internally in the optical slot), AND somehow connect the new 2 gig drive internally as well while leaving the original drive in place? Thus I would be able to boot from the original drive, format the 2-gig and install 4.1 on it from the CD. (I could, I suppose, temporarily install the 2-gig in an external case) 2) I haven't opened a cube (yet) since the new components haven't yet arrived--are there 3 scsi connectors internally? Will I ultimately be able to permanently install the 2-gig, CD & swap drive internally? What kind of brackets should I acquire? 3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if I were to acquire a color monitor for it? 4) Is there any way to print to an HP Deskwriter 550c? At present the home office consists of two desktop macs connected via 10-baseT and a hub. My wife's mac runs Apple's localtalk bridge software which allows printing from either machine to the HP (on localtalk). Both macs dial-in to the campus network via an ARA server (each has its own phone line) for both the appletalk and tcp/ip services of the campus network (I know it sounds like this might set up a loop since they're also connected locally, but this hasn't been a problem at all). Can anyone suggest a way that we can connect the cube to the 10 base-T network here for printing? CAP? NeXT drivers for the HP? Could the NeXT serve as a print server for the HP and eliminate the localtalk bridge software? 5) If I wanted to add tcp/ip services to the cube in the above environment, does anyone have any recommendations (short of a third phone line) as to how one might do this? I have heard of mac-based software products that allow a small net to share a single PPP acount. We could certainly live with only one mac having appletalk access to campus (my wife and I both occasionally have to use appletalk-only services--though that is probably going away soon), if the NeXT and one mac were to share a single PPP connection. Lots of newbie questions, but I'd appreciate any assistance. Thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ The Language Schools herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: 16 Feb 1997 19:57:24 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> In article <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: [About a 25-MHz '040 Cube] > Will I be >able to connect both the internal CD (internally in the optical slot), >AND somehow connect the new 2 gig drive internally as well while >leaving the original drive in place? If your cube don't have 4 sets of holes on its drive chassis, you won't be able to mount 3 drives. But, you can just rig it up so that your 2GB drive just sticks out of your cube during your installation. Make sure you get a SCSI cable with 3 connectors for each drive. Oh yeah, only CD-ROM drives that use caddies will work. > are there 3 scsi connectors internally? No, just SCSI 1 connectors. SCSI-3 didn't exist when cubes were built. > Will I ultimately be >able to permanently install the 2-gig, CD & swap drive internally? What >kind of brackets should I acquire? Refer to my 1st paragraph. You can "set" your swap on top of your 2GB or CD-ROM drive, if your chassis has only 2 sets of drive holes, provided your HDs are 1" (1/3 height). >3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if >I were to acquire a color monitor for it? Only if you get a NeXTDimension, and you'll only be able to use the 68Hz model, not the Sony trinitron, which refreshes at 72Hz. >4) Is there any way to print to an HP Deskwriter 550c? If it has Postscript, and it's a network printer (ethernet), it will work. If either isn't true, you may want to look at CAP. Look at: www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html. >5) If I wanted to add tcp/ip services to the cube in the above >environment, does anyone have any recommendations (short of a third >phone line) as to how one might do this? TCP/IP is built in. You'll want to add TCP/IP to your Macs. If the Macs run 7.5.5 and above, they should work. I posted the following a while back: >Subject: How to install CD-ROM drive in a Cube >From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui)>Date: 1996/11/24 >Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company >Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > > >I've wanted to do this for the longest time and finally, yesterday... >Perhaps this should go into the FAQ? > >Disassembled my Apple external CD-300 and my '040 Cube. > >Took out my 1/2 height 5-1/4 Seagate. > >Installed my CD-ROM drive using the OD holes, lower screw holes of my >CD-ROM drive, using a set of smaller screws. Standard screws holding >HDs in my Cube won't fit the CD-ROM drive's holes. > >Replaced my Seagate w/ a 1-GB 1/3 height HD. HD now just "sits" on >top of CD-ROM drive. > >Reinstalled NS from CD-ROM, and copied needed files from my Seagate >to my Fujitsu. > >Works like a charm. Initially, it didn't look like CD caddies will >insert or eject but it works fine though the drive looks a bit low. >Due to the opening's design on the Cube, I even have access to the >eject button via a paper clip, but no access to manual eject nor >headphone/volume--no matter, I have my other computer for stuff like >that. > >I think my Cube runs cooler due to the extra opening. > >Oh yeah, need: power splitter and SCSI cable w/ at least 3 >connectors. CD-ROM drive isn't terminated so make it 1st physical >drive in chain. > > > >Tried some experimentation on my non-Turbo Cube. With my HD at id 0, >floppy at id 3 and CD-ROM drive at id 4, I can't boot a CD-ROM w/out >the special boot floppy; but if my CD-ROM drive is at id 0, and my >HD something else (like 2), CDs will boot--but my HD won't boot. >Tried bsd(x,0,0)sdmach rootdev=sdx for HD and CD. > >Does anyone know what's exactly needed (besides a Turbo upgrade, I >don't want to lose my OD) to make my CD-ROM bootable? I've heard that >the latest Firmware ROM _isn't_ the answer. I have v63 or some old >version like that. Anyone out there w/ intimate NeXT hw experience >they'd like to share?? Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 00:38:11 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5e899j$p09$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> Cc: dutky@wam.umd.edu In <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> "Jeffrey S. Dutky" wrote: > I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is > a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is > on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number > of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed > a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there > cubes that had floppy drives in them? Yes.. And Yes. 2.88M as a matter of fact. > -Jeff Dutky > Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Message-ID: <cdoutyE5q1yo.2xK@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:42:24 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom14.netcom.com In article <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu>, Jeffrey S. Dutky <dutky@wam.umd.edu> wrote: >I have an 040-25 based cube and it looks like there is >a cable connector for a floppy drive (the connector is >on the PCB behind the DSP port and has the same number >of pins as a floppy connector on a slab). Is this indeed >a connector for a floppy drive and if so were there >cubes that had floppy drives in them? Yup, that's a floppy connector. I believe that all of the 040 boards have them. The Turbocube must have shipped with a floppy since it does not support the OD. I imagine that most cubes shipped with floppies once the OD was deprecated. I just bought a Turbocube from Sam Goldberger which has a floppy and a drive tower which supports multiple half-height devices. The original cubes only had holes for two FH drives. There is also a different faceplate for cubes with a floppy vs. and OD. As a nice bonus the normal floppy is _much_ faster than the PLI SCSI floppy which I used to use. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Message-ID: <cdoutyE5q2oM.476@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 00:57:58 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom14.netcom.com >>3) The monitor is a gray-scale one. Does an '040 cube support color if >>I were to acquire a color monitor for it? > >Only if you get a NeXTDimension, and you'll only be able to use the >68Hz model, not the Sony trinitron, which refreshes at 72Hz. My 17" trinitron tube works fine on either a NeXTdimension or color slab at 68Hz. I do prefer the 21" Hitachi monitors though, if you've got the space. For the original poster, you need a card called the NeXTdimension (ND) to get color display from a cube. The ND is a fairly unique color card in that it includes a i860 and substantial backing store RAM in addition to the VRAM framebuffer. It does some PS processing itself. (Fairly limited, NeXT changed R&D focus before fully utilizing the ND.) You can put three ND cards into a cube (if you can find them) and get a seemless workspace across 3 color and one B&W monitors. That said, the ND is fairly expensive and rare. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 4 Sale:Canon object.station 41 logic board & case Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 20:11:18 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Services & Smith NET-Illinois State University Message-ID: <3307BDCB.68D4@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------14F39541F39" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------14F39541F39 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For Sale by owner: Canon object.station 41 logic board & case. Nothing else, no RAM, CPU or power supply, etcetera. Has on board Sound in/out, 10-Base T Ethernet, Video display, floppy support, 2 serial ports, 1 parallel port. Serious offers will be >$150 U.S. Email prefered or call 309-436-1682 Thanks! PS: The attached text file is the original specs info from Canon on the object.station as a full computer. -- Eric A. 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From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EDO RAM Date: 16 Feb 97 21:20:08 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF2D2A8C-83DA8@207.147.62.34> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just installed two 8 Meg EDO RAM SIMMs in my Turbo Cube. These are 70 Nanosecond SIMMs and appear to work correctly. I checked the Workspace Info and it confirmed that I now have 32 Megs of RAM. Is there another way to check to make sure this RAM is working correctly? Does anyone know of any problems inherent in using EDO RAM? Thanks, Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:36:59 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar configuration and has been able to make this work. When I put in an audio CD, it will auto-launch OmniCd.app, but the app is incapable of locating the drive. (Cmd-O/cmd-o displays an empty list, so it obviously can't see the drive for some reason.) I guess I'd have been better off with a SCSI drive, but it is too late for that now. I've got what I've got...and I would like to get it working if possible. :-) -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: '040 cube config? (warning--newbie questions) Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:36:40 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5e91q8$2g2@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <msg33539.thr-1ee0e0.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <5e7or4$nkt@hpax.cup.hp.com> <cdoutyE5q2oM.476@netcom.com> In article <cdoutyE5q2oM.476@netcom.com>, Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote: >My 17" trinitron tube works fine on either a NeXTdimension or color slab >at 68Hz. Really? From NeXT's docs in NeXTanswers, it seems as though the image will be distorted and shifted if NDs and non-turbo Cubes are used in conjunction with the 17" Trinitron monitors (N4006). I'm probably confused... Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 040 cube motherboard and floppy drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 07:58:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5e9334$hph@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3306A17A.5B6B@wam.umd.edu> <cdoutyE5q1yo.2xK@netcom.com> cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) wrote: > I just bought a Turbocube from Sam Goldberger which has a floppy and a > drive tower which supports multiple half-height devices. The original > cubes only had holes for two FH drives. There is also a different > faceplate for cubes with a floppy vs. and OD. As a nice bonus the normal > floppy is _much_ faster than the PLI SCSI floppy which I used to use. Actually, my cube here has a faceplate (without paint on it, and it looks like there never was paint on it either) with floppy and OD slot. Both devices are fully functional, and I'm fortunate to have an OD that actually does still work. I have threatened to replace it with a Zip or Jaz, but so far I have no reason to move my external replacements inside. ;-) There are one 040/25, and three 030/25 boards in this machine, as well as the floppy, the full-height OD, and a 2GB low-profile Quantum disk. The whole setup isn't precisely terribly well cooled (although I'm about to replace the fan with a higher volume, less noise Papst fan). Best regards, -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work), <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) UNIX/Network Specialist, "A German in the U.S., speaking for himself *gasp*" Paranet, Inc. http://www.paranet.com/
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OS compatibility/recommendations for black? Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:49:54 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <5e9gl2$agv@papoose.quick.com> References: <5d0tf6$ef1@camel1.mindspring.com> <5d2857$e1s@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> <5d772r$fdi@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <E5Lr6t.8JI@ceco.ceco.com> In article <E5Lr6t.8JI@ceco.ceco.com>, Eric Chu <echu@bpo-ess.ceco.com> wrote: >Christian Neuss (neuss@NO.SPAM) wrote: >: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) wrote: >Let's say I have gcc on both my pentium pc and my black running openstep >4.0 developer. >I am trying to modify a makefile for tcl/tk to run on black. >Can I have the pc do the compilation with all of the switches, >lib and everything else done on black? Yes you can. Make sure that you selected the architectures you will need for all the libraries you installed. Then, to compile for moto only, just make sure the flags '-arch m68k' are present for both the compilation and load phases. If the -arch flag is present it will build FAT object files and executables. It is legal to not include the native architecture. So '-arch m68k' will build FAT files with only moto code in them, no matter what architecture is doing the compilation. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Integration Group (617) 895-3343 ) | "I don't think so," said Rene Descartes. Just then, he vanished.
From: Christian Kuhtz <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:57:55 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5e96ij$hph@dfw-ixnews12.ix.netcom.com> References: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> Sounds like a dead power supply to me. Deepspacetech and Sam Goldberger both have them... PS: Shorter lines (less than 80 characters/line) would be great ;-) Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> wrote: [..] -- Christian Kuhtz <ckuhtz@paranet.com> (work), <chk@gnu.ai.mit.edu> (personal) UNIX/Network Specialist, "A German in the U.S., speaking for himself *gasp*" Paranet, Inc. Rocky Mountain Branch, http://www.paranet.com/ MIME/NeXTmail Ok
From: "Lib Informática Ltda" <Lib.Info@empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Brazilian Representative looks for good products to local market Date: 17 Feb 1997 08:30:10 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda Message-ID: <01bc1ca8$81469020$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2Ugb25lIHdoZXJlIGFsbW9z dCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24gY29t cGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vydmlj ZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFwaWQg ZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3QsIGEg aGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBpcyBv cGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9ibGVt Li4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJlc2Vu dCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFuaWVz IGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgY29tcGFuaWVz IHdoaWNoIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgdXMgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IFBlcnNvbmFsbHksIEkgZG8gbWFuYWdl IGEgMiwwMDAgbWVtYmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVy ZSBJIHdyaXRlIHRoZW0gYWJvdXQgdGhlIG5ldyBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgcmVsZWFzZXMuICAgQW5k IGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgaWYgeW91IGUtbWFpbCBtZSBhYm91dCBuZXcgc29mdHdhcmVzIGFuZCByZWxl YXNlcy4NCg0KDQoNCkNhcmxvcyBCb3JnYXJ0aA0KTGliIEluZm9ybeF0aWNhIEx0ZGEuDQpSaW8g ZGUgSmFuZWlybyAgLSAgQnJhc2ls
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 13:24:34 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> I was wondering if anyone can help me - I'm looking for a display driver for a Compaq Contura notebook. None of the drivers included with the OPENSTEP/Mach 4.1 release support any better than black-and-white on the display, though the hardware can handle 8-bit color at 640x480. If I select the Western Digital LCD display driver, it's looking for 1 meg of VRAM, which is more than my notebook has. If I edit the memory maps in 'expert settings' to tell it to look for 300K of VRAM (if the machine supports 640x480x8b it must have at least 300K of VRAM) it still doesn't work; on reboot (either looking for 1 meg or 300K of VRAM) it warns of something like 'unsupported memory width' and defaults to the default VGA driver (which is why I'm getting black and white). Has anyone gotten the Western Digital LCD driver to work with a Compaq Contura 420C notebook or anything similar? Or has anyone attepted to write a driver for this machine? It's a decently solid machine and OPENSTEP handles nicely on it (as long as you stay away from the hardware suspend/hibernate commands, which are flaky with OPENSTEP) and it'd be nice to get OPENSTEP running on it (since the desktop box it had been installed on croaked). Thanks in advance! -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 17 Feb 1997 19:37:24 GMT Organization: CyberPort Station Message-ID: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing about it. thanks.
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: commendations for tape backup drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 20:14:45 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5eae7l$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <5ea8bp$4pn@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) wrote: > I'm looking for information, recommendations, etc. on purchasing > a DAT tape backup unit for a NeXTstation color running NS 3.0. > A local vendor suggests a WangTek 3200 (refurbished) 2-4GB unit > with 3 mo. warrantee for $900 CAN as the 'best buy'. Is this > reasonable? > Any things to look out for in purchase? Not really. You can get 4gb HP Dat drives for about 500bux. Last time I looked it up on Price Watch (http://www.pricewatch.com/). BTW, price watch is pretty cool. Kinda a Nasdaq for computer stuff :) Go there and check out SCSI DAT drives. You should be able to do much better for a new unit. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin.comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: ? Fax modems Date: 17 Feb 1997 15:30:50 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5e9tja$1hi@news.acns.nwu.edu> Can anyone tell me what modems are compatable with OpenStep 4.1? I know the Zyxel modems work but which model is fastest as a modem yet works as a Fax? I heard a rumor that the Supra modems worked as FAX modem also, can anyone confirm this and if so what models and speeds do the work at? Are there any other manufactures of modems that work with OpenStep? Are there aftermarket FAX packages that work with additional modems and manufactures? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:51:07 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5eajsb$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> cmoore@cyberport.com (Cmoore) wrote: > I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. > I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done > in the past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects > that anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested > in hearing about it. There's the MusicKit at CCRMA: ftp://ccrma-ftp.stanford.edu/pub/NeXT Lots of things there. As for hardware, they still make Digital Ears (I think). 503 227-3733 metaresearch <75270.1262@compuserve.com> They also make a good sound editing app, called SoundWorks3.0 -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: "Steven C. Perkins" <sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:18:28 -0500 Organization: scp Message-ID: <3308CB24.8C8@andromeda.rutgers.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AMD has supposedly re-engineered their MMX chip to minimize the switching penalty. It may be a better MMX chip than the Intel. The question now is whether it matches the FP performance of an Intel chip. SCPerkins regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. -- \\\\\\\\\*///////// Steven C. Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu User Services Coordinator http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~sperkins/ Rutgers School of Law-Newark http://info.rutgers.edu/RUSLN/rulnindx.html Ackerson Law Library http://info.rutgers.edu/lawschool.html Newark, NJ 07102 VOX:201-648-5965 FAX:201-648-1356 ***************************************************************************
From: "Steven C. Perkins" <sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:20:55 -0500 Organization: scp Message-ID: <3308CBB7.5680@andromeda.rutgers.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit AMD has supposedly re-engineered their MMX chip to minimize the switching penalty. It may be a better MMX chip than the Intel. The question now is whether it matches the FP performance of an Intel chip. SCPerkins regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. -- \\\\\\\\\*///////// Steven C. Perkins sperkins@andromeda.rutgers.edu User Services Coordinator http://www.rci.rutgers.edu/~sperkins/ Rutgers School of Law-Newark http://info.rutgers.edu/RUSLN/rulnindx.html Ackerson Law Library http://info.rutgers.edu/lawschool.html Newark, NJ 07102 VOX:201-648-5965 FAX:201-648-1356 ***************************************************************************
From: Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: Sun, 16 Feb 1997 16:08:16 -0800 Organization: Optimal Solutions Message-ID: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, I would appreciate it if someone (anyone, please!) could give me some idea of what to do about the following problem: Some months ago my NeXTStation Color slab (bought in '92) began to give me problems. For example, sometimes when I pressed the power key it would begin to power up and then in the middle of booting the power would suddenly turn off. Sometimes it would shut itself off while I was using the computer (rather than during the boot process). When the power would shut off it seemed to behave very much like the machine does during a normal shutdown (after you click on power off with the mouse button) i.e. there was a slight clicking noise and the monitor went dark. Of course, the computer went through a tedious fseek when I booted it up later after such a non-standard shutdown. At first these problems occurred very rarely, but as time passed they happened more frequently. After 3 or 4 months the computer would fail to successfully boot most of the time (power failing during the process). I know there is a battery on the motherboard which I had heard might affect powering up, so I replaced it. This *did* seem to help for a week or so (but since failures seemed random it *could* have been coincidence). In time the condition degenerated completely so that now I don't even hear a "click" when I press the power button and my beloved NeXTStation Color just sits there like a black corpse :^( I have been making do with a Pentium running Windows (Hey, I'm a consultant and I have no choice!) but I would love to be able to make use of my NeXTStation Color again! Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? BTW: I am eager to buy a PowerPC for Rhapsody, but I'd prefer to wait until Rhapsody is ready. Thanks for any ideas... ---------------------------------------------- Dan Scott Send e-mail to ds63627@navix.net ----------------------------------------------
From: regan <regan@bsc.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Sat, 15 Feb 1997 19:45:09 +0000 Organization: CMDS News machine Message-ID: <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend the money.
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT CD ROM (external) Date: 17 Feb 1997 16:29:22 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1702970831500001@i530.oro.net> The NeXT brand CD ROM, black, I think was 2 x or... Thomas
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with station bootup anomaly Date: 18 Feb 1997 02:23:37 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970218022301.VAA22602@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 12:51:05 EST Organization: University of Georgia Message-ID: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. The 10-base T port would be nice so I could dispense with the mini-hub. My cube runs great now, could it run even better with an 040 board? Thank you for your comments. Check out my NeXT brochures site: http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT.htm l
From: ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan Jetha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Com Etherlink on Toshiba TECRA Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:18:12 GMT Organization: Interlynx Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ea7d4$s8f@roger.interlynx.net> Keywords: network, laptop, nextstep Folks, Just wondering if anyone can help me. I just purchased a Toshiba TECRA laptop. I've got NS3.3 running just fine on it. The problem I'm having is the ethernet card. I've got a 3Com EtherlinkIII PCMCIA card (it's one of the recommended ones) which is detected by the system, but for some reason en0 does not get configured. If someone has this working, could you perharps let me know what drivers you've loaded and what version each one is. Any help at all would be appreciated!! Please email me directly at ajetha@visgen.com (news is sporatic here) Thanks Alykhan Jetha (AJ) Visible Genetics Inc.,
From: thedrjay@aol.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 18 Feb 1997 03:02:11 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970218030200.WAA24762@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> I haven't tried the K5 out with NS, but I think that there is a very good chance that it will work. I have used the K5 for systems that run OS/2, Windows NT (both server and workstation), Windows 95, Novel 3.12 and Windows 3.1. I have never had any compatibility problems with AMD CPU's unlike Cyrix. Cyrix I think is more inclined to ship there CPU's out as soon as they seem to work and fix any bugs that show up latter. I have run into incompatibility problems more than a few times with Cyrix CPUs. They by the way list NS 3.2 and 3.3 as compatible with the 6X86. Most of the software testing they did is almost all Windows apps even though they list a lot of other compatible operating systems that don't run windows apps. Maybe if they can install and start an operating system they say it is compatible? I wouldn't buy a Cyrix CPU to run NS unless Next lists it as compatible. I haven't had a chance to try the K5 with NS yet, but the next NS computer (or one with compatible components) I put together will have one to see if it really works. It's too bad I don't get the chance often build a NS computer or I would have already tried a K5 with NS.
From: jm041536@fhda.edu (Joaquin Menchaca) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: GXE Pro 64 Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:50:36 GMT Organization: De Anza College Message-ID: <jm041536-1702971046090001@mencjo.apple.com> I am having trouble with NeXTSTEP 3.3. I can manage to get NeXTSTEP to work in VGA mode, but NeXTSTEP has problems with my video card GXEPro64 (4meg). Everytime it tries to use the card, the screen turns black. I do not have any problems with DOS, Win 3.1, Win95, WinNT, and OS/2. So what is up with NeXTSTEP 3.3? Does anyone know what I can do to get NeXTSTEP to work with my GXE64Pro card? thanks for any help, joaquin menchaca -- ############################################################### # My opinions are my own and not of any I work for. # ############################################################### # WARNING: DO NOT send unwarranted mail or SPAMS! Further # # proceedings of sending unwarranted email or spams will # # result in fines up to $1000 in damages. # ###############################################################
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702171519.KAA06355@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 99ccbd4d6ae8ec65a06ab2d4b7180205 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 97 10:19:43 -0500 Subject: Re: EDO RAM Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com, luomat@peak.org References: 99ccbd4d6ae8ec65a06ab2d4b7180205 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Original Date: 16 Feb 97 21:20:08 -0500 > Is there another way to check to make sure this RAM is working > correctly? You could use the 'hostinfo' program to see if it registers there as well (I expect that it will). TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: John Kheit <jkheit@cnj.digex.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:33:32 GMT Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA Message-ID: <5eairc$1en@news3.digex.net> References: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (David Knox) wrote: > Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 > cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant > increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. The 10-base T > port would be nice so I could dispense with the mini-hub. My cube > runs great now, could it run even better with an 040 board? Thank > you for your comments. The short answer is YES YES YES. Especially if you can find an 040 turbo board (i.e. 33mhz). Or better yet, the 50mhz Pyro board from Spherical Solutions. Anyway, more than just a 4times raw processing power boost, you'll enjoy the ability to upgrade your RAM beyond 16megs, to say 64 or 128mb's of ram. The Ram upgrade will do much to speed your opperations. However, I'm not sure if it makes sense from a price point... It might just make sense to bite the bullet and get an intel system that will easily outperform any NeXT machine... -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... monoChrome, Inc. | ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer | mailto:jkheit@cnj.digex.net Telepathy, It's coming... | http://www.cnj.digex.net/~jkheit New York Law School | You make the best of what's still around...
From: Charles Wiles <get_lost@all.spammers> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3Com Etherlink on Toshiba TECRA Date: 17 Feb 1997 21:12:56 GMT Organization: Physics Teaching Course, Oxford Message-ID: <5eahko$9gs@news.ox.ac.uk> References: <5ea7d4$s8f@roger.interlynx.net> ajetha@visgen.com (Alykhan Jetha) wrote: > Just wondering if anyone can help me. I just purchased a Toshiba TECRA > laptop. I've got NS3.3 running just fine on it. The problem I'm having is > the ethernet card. I've got a 3Com EtherlinkIII PCMCIA card (it's one of > the recommended ones) which is detected by the system, but for some reason > en0 does not get configured. If someone has this working, could you > perharps let me know what drivers you've loaded and what version each one > is. Funnily enough, we're having *exactly* the same problem. In our case we have the 3C589D model (note the "D": we asked for a 589C--which is what the NS driver officially supports--but our suppliers presumably sent us the latest one they had; we are just about to return it). I've also tried installing it under Linux (the latest Linux PCMCIA driver doesn't explicitly support the D revision either) and it can't configure the card either. I'd appreciate any good suggestions from anyone that knows about this problem (especially if you happen to be a NeXT [->Apple] engineer who can update the driver :->). Email preferred, as we also have a sporadic news feed. charles _______________________________________________________________________ Charles Wiles, NeXT/Unix Systems Manager, Physics Practical Course Dept of Physics NAPL, University of Oxford UK charles@teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Power Supply Date: 18 Feb 1997 09:34:18 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebt2q$o5j@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> In article <5cti13$4dl@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > I have a monochrome turbo NeXTStation whose power supply just failed. If > anyone knows where I can obtain the appropriate replacement part, or knows > where there is information about obtaining a replacement, could they please > contact me by email: > > rlarson @semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu > > I know this topic has been raised before. Please forgive the use of bandwdth > in raising it again. > > -Richard Larson Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 18 Feb 1997 06:47:03 GMT Organization: Omni Development, Inc. Message-ID: <5ebj97$p5a@gaea.titan.org> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> In article <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com>, Don Yacktman wrote: > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE > CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get it > to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work with > CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a > similar configuration and has been able to make this work. (I sent this to Don via email, but I thought it might be of more general interest, and actually, I'm hoping that someone who knows more about SCSI/ATAPI programming might be able to help me.) You might try removing OmniCD (or moving it to some place where the system won't try to autolaunch it), then pop in your audio cd. (You'll generally need to log out and log back in to get the system to stop trying to launch OmniCD.) If all goes well, CDPlayer will autolaunch and open the cd normally. (I've not experimented with this very much.) OmniCD has two (known) problems with ATAPI cdrom drives: The first is that OmniCD currently scans the SCSI bus looking for cdrom devices, and at the same time builds a map between physical SCSI ids and logical ids. I'm checking whether or not there's a device at a given ID by opening the generic SCSI device, setting the appropriate target id (I always use LUN 0 here, which is why OmniCD doesn't work on other LUNs), and then clearing unit attention (via a Request Sense). That Request Sense fails on ATAPI devices (not sure why - I thought that one would work), so I go back thinking there's no device on that ID. (If I ignore failure on the Request Sense, I go back thinking there's a device on _every_ ID.) I don't know much about SCSI/ATAPI programming, so if anyone tells me the correct way to do this, I'll fix it. Rakesh Dubey could probably help me here, but I've been unable to contact him. The second problem is that the commands for changing volume are different on EIDE devices, so even when I set it up so I can address an ATAPI device, I can't change the volume. I expect I could Again, any clues here would be appreciated. I imagine that the reason CDPlayer can work with ATAPI drives is that it doesn't scan the bus - it just tries to open whatever device the system tells it to when an audio cd is mounted. I haven't tested whether or not CDPlayer can change the audio volume for ATAPI cdrom drives, but I suspect it can or I would have probably heard otherwise. Note that even CDPlayer will require an ATAPI drive - not just any EIDE cdrom drive will work. -andrew -- andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEXTSTATION POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:08:35 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebv33$sc0@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> In article <5dsdu2$e4h@hpuniv.univ-lr.fr> jof@lune.univ-lr.fr (Bruno Joffredo) writes: > Hello, > > I am looking for NeXtStation POWER SUPPLIES AND MICE. If you have it or > you know where i can obtain it please email me : jof@univ-lr.fr > > Thank you. > > -- > > > Bruno Joffredo > bruno.joffredo@cri.univ-lr.fr (NeXt Mail, MIME) > > Centre de Ressources Informatiques Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de (Helmut Heller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 18 Feb 1997 10:08:39 GMT Organization: [posted via] Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany) Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ebv37$sc7@sparcserver.lrz-muenchen.de> References: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> In article <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu (Richard K. Larson) writes: > Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply > for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? > > I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a > machine die on Friday. > > -Richard Larson > SUNY Stony Brook Hello, have a look at: http://www.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de/~heller/NeXT/power_supply.html -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail welcome_________________ FAX: +49-89-2394-4607 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@attila.imo.physik.uni-muenchen.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 Phone: +49-89-2394-4565 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Ludwig Maximilians University | G i b D O S | Institute for Medical Optics, Theoretical Biophysics Group | k e i n e |
From: no.spam@no.where (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help!---NeXTStation Color won't power up! Date: 18 Feb 1997 01:29:02 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5eb0ku$6ku@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> In article <3307A170.1FC8@navix.net> Dan Scott <ds63627@navix.net> writes: > Hello, [... (too long lines)...] > Dan Scott Send e-mail to ds63627@navix.net > ---------------------------------------------- Hi Dan, I seem to have about the same problem with my NeXTstation Turbo. However, not as much as your's. My solution is to unplug the CPU from the power and wait about 10 minutes. Then replug it and power on. If by chance it runs well, I don't dare power it off no more. Well, it's more black magic than anything else, but it worked for me until now. __Pascal Bourguignon__
From: "Eric van Ballegoie" <**Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl**> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan,biz.comp.hardware,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,fido.ger.hardware Subject: P-Pro USERS: LOOK HERE!!!!!!!! Date: 18 Feb 1997 08:08:53 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <01bc1d71$adf732e0$e5f04fc1@pip.inter.nl.net> Ever since John Hinkley removed his page on FastVid, a utility which can improve graphics performance on P-Pro systems upto two times, I decided to dedicate a page to it. You can download FASTVID and files related to it from this site: http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/FastVid/ All files are shareware -- Eric van Ballegoie Rotterdam, The Netherlands <Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl> EMAIL CHANGED TO PROVENT FROM UNWANTED MAIL. TO REPLY USE THE EMAIL ADRESS OBOVE, OR REMOVE THE ASTERISKS.
From: clark001@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 16:56:01 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, I mean what has >he got to gain? He is probably referring to Intel's MMX 3.3v >overdrive chip which will be out soon enough. This will of course >allow Pentium boards to support MMX. Hope this helps Stephen make up >his mind, too. > >Roy. > But, considering the price of overdrive chips, it is far more economical to put a motherboard chip combination in your box than. To place an overdrive chip in the socket. Coupled with the fact if your a p-60 p-90 owner you would gain mode 4 eide, and edo capabilities. bill
From: Patrice AFFLATET <laric@imaginet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT 21 Inches plugs Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 14:25:13 +0100 Organization: SNRI Soft Message-ID: <3309ADB9.7621@imaginet.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------34B7D405CA00" ------------34B7D405CA00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I have a NeXTDimension 040 Cube with a NeXT 21" (Hitachi) Monitor and want to know if there is a way to connect this monitor to a PC Video Board (Cabling, specs, what about Sync signal....). I'd like to do the same thing with a NeXT MegaPixel 17" (Philips) Hope Apple will made some great hardware now... Thanks... -- --- Patrice AFFLATET laric@imaginet.fr SNRI Soft · Zone EURO 2000 SCO Unix Center · Sybase Var Av. de la Vistrenque MCP (NT) · Dephi · OpenStep 30132 CAISSARGUES · France fax : +33 466 29 73 45 ------------34B7D405CA00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT>I have a NeXTDimension 040 Cube with a NeXT 21" (Hitachi) Monitor and want to know if there is a way to connect this monitor to a PC Video Board (Cabling, specs, what about Sync signal....). I'd like to do the same thing with a NeXT MegaPixel 17" (Philips)</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Hope Apple will made some great hardware now...</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Thanks...</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT><BR> -- <BR> --- Patrice AFFLATET laric@imaginet.fr<BR> SNRI Soft · Zone EURO 2000 SCO Unix Center · Sybase Var<BR> Av. de la Vistrenque MCP (NT) · Dephi · OpenStep <BR> 30132 CAISSARGUES · France fax : +33 466 29 73 45<BR> </DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------34B7D405CA00--
From: Christian Neuss <neuss@informatik.th-darmstadt.de.NOSPAM> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:18:11 GMT Organization: Technische Hochschule Darmstadt Message-ID: <5eca6j$1vt5@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <cward-1402971106120001@adnline1191.adnc.com> cward@adnc.com wrote: >Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? >If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? ... no, because ... >I made null modem according to Man pages. >Printer just keeps loading and spitting out unprinted pages >Like it is stuck on form feed... You need a straight cable, not a Null modem cable. Get a copy of the NeXT FAQ, it contains details on wiring. I seem to remember that the easiest way of making one is buying a Mac Null modem cable, and cutting it in half, then re-wiring the DB25. The printer BTW works fine with a NeXT computer. You should also get a copy of dots. The demo version works right out of the box. HTH, Chris -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help with Nextstep 3.2 install Date: 17 Feb 1997 06:48:17 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Message-ID: <5e8uvh$a9c1@crash.videotron.ab.ca> On 02/15/97, Robert Trout wrote: >I purchased a Turbo Color Nextstation with no hard drive. I installed a new >Hawk 2XL 1.0 GB (ST31055N) drive as SCSI device 1. I then attempted a >complete installation of Nextstep 3.2. However typing the Command ~ keys >after the “Testing System...” message does not enter the ROM monitor. >Instead the dialog box alternates between “Loading from disk...” and “ SCSI >error” messages. > >What am I doing wrong? Does the new disk have to be initialized in an >existing Next system before installation? That's certainly the easiest way, but if you don't have a working system already, you can do a fresh install from CD. You'll need the NS 3.2 distribution CD and the boot floppy that comes with it. On a black box you don't have any of the driver fiddles that make Intel installs tricky. Just pop the CD in an external CD drive, insert the floppy and away you go. Make sure that the hard disk is jumpered for a SCSI ID of 0 or 1, and the CD drive is set to ID 2 or larger. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTSTEP/OpenStep on Notebook Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:51:47 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> I am thinking about buying a notebook in the next few months and maybe some kind soul can provide me with some experiences. - I have looked at the new Sharp PC-9090 notebook and it appears very impressiv. The display is 1024x768 16k color 12.1' and the price tag is lower than a similar system from Toshiba. I was told it uses some graphics chips from Cirrus Logic, however not the type. Does anyone have experiences with this system? Is there a driver for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for the graphics card? - Also the Toshiba Tecra 730 seems ok, feature wise. However the price tag is a bit high... Again, is anyone using this system? - Or buy an Apple 3400 notebook and hope Rhapsody runs on it. Guess noone knows for sure yet. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (Michael Friendly) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recommendations for tape backup drive Date: 17 Feb 1997 18:34:33 GMT Organization: York University, Ontario, Canada Message-ID: <5ea8bp$4pn@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> I'm looking for information, recommendations, etc. on purchasing a DAT tape backup unit for a NeXTstation color running NS 3.0. A local vendor suggests a WangTek 3200 (refurbished) 2-4GB unit with 3 mo. warrantee for $900 CAN as the 'best buy'. Is this reasonable? Any things to look out for in purchase? thx, -Michael -- Michael Friendly Internet: friendly@hotspur.psych.yorku.ca (NeXTmail OK) Psychology Dept York University Voice: 416 736-5118 Fax: 416 736-5814 4700 Keele Street http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Toronto, ONT M3J 1P3 CANADA
From: "Eric van Ballegoie" <**Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl**> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.supermicro,alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.tyan,biz.comp.hardware,comp.benchmarks,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.intel,comp.sys.next.hardware,fido.ger.hardware Subject: FASTVID IS ON THIS PAGE: Date: 18 Feb 1997 08:08:54 GMT Organization: NLnet Message-ID: <01bc1d71$b2310c00$e5f04fc1@pip.inter.nl.net> Ever since John Hinkley removed his page on FastVid, a utility which can improve graphics performance on P-Pro systems upto two times, I decided to dedicate a page to it. You can download FASTVID and files related to it from this site: http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/FastVid/ All files are shareware -- Eric van Ballegoie Rotterdam, The Netherlands <Jean.Ballegoie@net.HCC.nl> EMAIL CHANGED TO PROVENT FROM UNWANTED MAIL. TO REPLY USE THE EMAIL ADRESS OBOVE, OR REMOVE THE ASTERISKS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Message-ID: <1997Feb17.172230.1367@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: bchin@us.net Organization: Disorganization References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:22:30 GMT In <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> Bill Chin wrote: > > The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock > speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. The German computer magazine c't has compared a K5-166 with a Pentium-166 and found the AMD 5% faster in average. I also remember similar figures with the AMD K5-133 in another test. (I'm not talking about clock speeds here !)
From: ATL2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printer on PC: Can it be done? Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:01:11 GMT Organization: Lehigh University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Hi all, OK, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I'm duty bound to query before dropping $$$ on a new postscript printer: Is there any way (bus card? adaptor?) my old NeXT printer can be used on an Intel PC running NEXTSTEP? Infinite gratitude to anyone who (truthfully) answers "yes." Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu
Message-ID: <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 22:12:31 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen Consulting and BBN Internet MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Ethernet Question, BNC/TP selection from ifconfig Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How would I "encourage" the NeXT to select a particular media type when both are connected? More specifically, what's the darned ifconfig flag? Also, if you're looking for a NeXT related web page you can examine the one I've created at: http://www.isd.net/eulmer -- Eric Ulmer Networking Consultant, ServiceNet, LLC. eulmer@isd.net ulmerer@ebs.ac.com http://www.isd.net/eulmer http://www.ac.com/topstories/currnews/ts_dfr96-0618.html that slow machine). The 040 cubes and stations (all 25 MHz, no turbos) work ok, even though some of them are over 7 years old by now. Try saying that about any PC (the 486 machines we bought 3 or 4 years ago seem way too slow for Nextstep today ...). -- -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=- "I think people are happy using Windows, and that's an extremely depressing thought." -= Steve Jobs, 1/96 =- Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@ilink.de -=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-=+=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5t6r8.Arr@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 17:18:44 GMT References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Gian-Paolo D Musumeci <gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu> wrote: >spdwell@adnc.com writes: >> Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? >> Anything? > >There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. > o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can > find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger > (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. No, they aren't sold anymore. They didn't work on a lot of machines and, I gather, were generally a pain. Were nice when they worked, though. > o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and > if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the > legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that > only fit into the Turbo-series systems. > I hear these are very nice! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: allan@ali.bc.ca (Allan Noordvyk) Subject: Re: file ownership Message-ID: <E5t9Lq.E7A@gateway.ali.bc.ca> Sender: nobody@gateway.ali.bc.ca Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Organization: ALI Technologies Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 18:20:14 GMT References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> In comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > I'm having a problem with file ownership. > My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. > However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing > ownership to my account . > ... > So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? > How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? > What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future. Typically this is caused by not having an entry for the disk in your /etc/fstab file. If Workspace notices a SCSI disk which isn't specifically mentioned in your fstab, it assumes that it is a temporary disk which you want mounted in the same manner as a floppy. The disk is mounted using the permissions of the current user logged in. If this is the cause of your problem, you can simply add a line like the following to /etc/fstab, so that the disk will be a permanent part of your machine's set of file systems: /dev/sd1a /LocalApps 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 assuming you want the disk mounted as /LocalApps. -- Allan Noordvyk, Software Artisan e-mail: allan@ali.bc.ca ALI Technologies Voice: 604.279.5422 x 317 Richmond, Canada Fax: 604.279.5468 * NeXT and MIME mail welcome * "Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine."
From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 18 Feb 1997 13:57:28 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get max performance. John Byrne New to NeXT World and proud of it! Gian-Paolo D Musumeci <gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu> wrote in article <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>... > spdwell@adnc.com writes: > > Has anyone tried to speed up a NeXT? Has anyone tried a clock doubler? > > Anything? > > There are basically two ways to speed up a NeXT[1]. > o If you have a non-Turbo (25MHz vs. 33MHz) machine, and if you can > find one (I'm not sure if they're still being sold), Sam Goldberger > (http://www.orb.com) used to sell a 'Pyro' 50MHz accelerator card. > o If you have a Turbo (33MHz) machine, and if you can find one, and > if you're willing to pay around two thousand dollars, there are the > legendary Nitro CPU cards. These are 40MHz+cache 68040 boards that > only fit into the Turbo-series systems. > > These are pretty much the only options. I haven't tried putting a Newer > Technologies' chip replacement board into a system yet, but I have a feeling > that it simply will not work. Perhaps Sam Goldberger could post some > technical morsels here for those of us who are more interested? > > gdm > > [1] 68040-based machines only. I know of no way to accelerate an '030 > system, other than upgrading to an '040 board. >
From: Stefano Pagiola <spagiola@worldbank.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Upgrade from 030 to 040? Date: Mon, 17 Feb 1997 17:09:37 -0500 Organization: World Bank Message-ID: <3308D721.3BD3@worldbank.org> References: <17B18B4B9S86.DKNOX@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> <5eairc$1en@news3.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit John Kheit wrote: > > Hello NeXT enthusiasts, I have been thinking of upgrading my 030 > > cube running NS 3.2 to an 040 board. Is there a significant > > increase in performance of the 040 over the 030. > > The short answer is YES YES YES. Especially if you can find an > 040 turbo board (i.e. 33mhz). > > However, I'm not sure if it makes sense from a price point... It > might just make sense to bite the bullet and get an intel system > that will easily outperform any NeXT machine... Or wait a little and get a PowerPC running Rhapsody. -- Stefano Pagiola 850 N Randolph Str No.817, Arlington VA 22203, USA All opinions are my own and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5tG8x.8wn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 20:43:45 GMT References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, Integrated Wellness Systems <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max >amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get >max performance. > True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point where adding more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my Dimension board). However, my life would likely be better if I got off my butt and installed a faster disk. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTSTEP/OpenStep on Notebook Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:20:14 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-1802971920140001@p15.ts12.metro.ma.tiac.com> References: <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> In article <5ecc5j$k80@bias.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de>, frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) wrote: > I am thinking about buying a notebook in the next few months and maybe some > kind soul can provide me with some experiences. > > - I have looked at the new Sharp PC-9090 notebook and it appears very > impressiv. The display is 1024x768 16k color 12.1' and the price tag is lower > than a similar system from Toshiba. I was told it uses some graphics chips > from Cirrus Logic, however not the type. Does anyone have experiences with > this system? Is there a driver for NeXTSTEP/OpenStep for the graphics card? > > - Also the Toshiba Tecra 730 seems ok, feature wise. However the price tag is > a bit high... Again, is anyone using this system? > > - Or buy an Apple 3400 notebook and hope Rhapsody runs on it. Guess noone > knows for sure yet. Rhapsody will run on it - at least, the real Rhapsody release. The developer release, which will just be an OPENSTEP port plus a few minor changes maybe, may not run. No idea. However, the 3400 is twice as fast as the other notebooks you mentioned, so there's an advantage there. -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: egg123 <egg123@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 19:18:27 -0500 Organization: Prodigy IAC Test Message-ID: <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because of it.
From: "Mike Prendergast" <mprender@catpc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.misc,comp.sys.ibm.as400.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.sys3x.misc,comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.n Subject: WTB: Seagate ST32550WC H/D 100+ Date: 19 Feb 1997 03:11:37 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Message-ID: <01bc1e12$ceccbca0$798048cc@mike.protocom.com> WANT TO BUY NOW. We are the BUYER, we need 600 units and are ready to cut a Purchase Order now. Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 612-653-6871 (Fax) mprender@catpc.com
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB Mouse discovery Date: 19 Feb 1997 01:37:59 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5edlhn$ep1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I discovered that a Macintosh Apple Desktop Bus Mouse II (single button) will work just fine with a Color Turbo NeXTstation, with one proviso: the button needs to be kept pressed during reboot in order for the mouse to get registered by the system. After that, it works great. I find it smoother and more ergonomic for the hand than the NeXT ADB "Darth Vader" mouse. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: "Mike Prendergast" <mprender@catpc.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.marketplace,fr.comp.sys.next,misc.forsale.computers.storage,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,misc.forsale.wanted,okinawa.sys.sun Subject: WTB: Seagate ST32550WC H/D 100+ Date: 19 Feb 1997 02:59:38 GMT Organization: Mike Prendergast Message-ID: <01bc1e11$225b0900$798048cc@mike.protocom.com> WANT TO BUY NOW. We are the BUYER, we need 600 units and are ready to cut a Purchase Order now. Contact: Michael Prendergast Fuller Workstations 612-653-6789 612-653-6871 (Fax) mprender@catpc.com
From: derek@slab.cisco.com (Derek Taubert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black Ethernet Question, BNC/TP selection from ifconfig Date: 19 Feb 1997 06:48:56 GMT Organization: cisco Systems, Incorporated Message-ID: <5ee7oo$io4@cronkite.cisco.com> References: <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Cc: ulmerer@ebs.ac.com In <33092C2F.465@ebs.ac.com> Eric Ulmer wrote: > How would I "encourage" the NeXT to select a particular media type > when both are connected? More specifically, what's the darned ifconfig > flag? I'm afraid you can only use one media type at a time. There isn't a way to "select" one or the other. -- _ ___ | \ _ ._ _ | | _. |_ _ ._ _|_ taubert@geeks.org |_/(/_| (/_|< |(_||_||_)(/_| |_ NeXTMail welcome
From: enigma <llay@ieng9.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: Tue, 18 Feb 1997 23:19:41 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.970218231437.25890A-100000@ieng9.ucsd.edu> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> On 16 Feb 1997, Bill Chin wrote: > calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating > point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's > not substantiated. Actually, it is a decumented fact, that AMD's and all the other clone chips are inferior in their floating-point performance compared to Pentium. :-) But, since most people run Windoze and non-floating point intensive applications on their computer, most people wouldn't notice much difference. However, I don't know to what extent do NeXTSTEP/OpenStep use the floating point operations--so... Lucas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702190651.BAA10353@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 01:51:12 -0500 Subject: Modem Configuration Question - SupraFaxModem Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Sorry for what's probably a blatantly off-topic post, but I'm stuck and in need of help . My manual for my SupraFaxModem has the following entries under "AT COMMANDS" %L Report received signal level (while online only) (value in -dBm) %Q Report line signal quality (0-128) (while online only) (0 indicates better quality) #CIDn Caller ID commands (0=Disables Caller ID, 1 = enables formatted Caller ID, 2=not formatted) I have no idea how to issue the first two, since they say they are "while online only" -- how do I issue AT commands while online without screwing up my existing connection? With the caller ID: I have not been able to use that either using 'kermit' or in my PPP chat script -- I don't know how to 'format' it (which it implies it needs: "formatted Caller ID") and I don't know how to utilize it. I have tried all 3 using 'chat' and 'kermit' and they just report ERROR and that's it. Any help appreciated Thanks TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT Bible (and other NeXT Books) Date: 19 Feb 1997 18:01:58 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1802971004500001@i501.oro.net> What do you have. I heard the NeXT Bible was a book on the NeXT platform. What else do you have for sale. Thomas
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT on Campus magazines Date: 19 Feb 1997 18:02:38 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-1802971005300001@i501.oro.net> Let me know what you have. Thomas
From: ralf@prolink.de (Ralf Niederhuefner) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 17:38:01 GMT Organization: PROLINK GbRmbH Message-ID: <330b38ca.23348206@news.prolink.de> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> Cache-Post-Path: Sol.prolink.de!unknown@jupiter.prolink.de egg123 <egg123@prodigy.net> wrote: >> one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be >> used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > >Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX >software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because >of it. funny idea. so if the programmers have to optimize the software for MMX, what do we need this chip for ??? Optimized machine-code WITHOUT MMX is much faster than working around this MMX/FPU problem. But who cares, it's Intel who told us to buy it !
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 19 Feb 1997 22:58:32 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: file ownership Date: 18 Feb 1997 17:48:03 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm having a problem with file ownership. My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . Example: /dev/sd1a is mounted as /LocalApps and contains all of my Local Applications (logically). This disk and its contents should be owned by the system - root. However when I do: ls -la / |grep LocalApps I get drwxrwxrwt 50 dave 2048 Feb 17 15:45 LocalApps/ Similarly if I do: ls -la /LocalApps |grep SoftPC I get drwxr-xr-x 18 dave 1024 Jan 19 1996 SoftPC.app/ Now what is confusing me is that these files were initially installed by root and if I change ownership of them by doing: chown -R root /LocalApps chown -R root /LocalApps/SoftPC.app and chown root /LocalApps/* chown root /LocalApps/*/* etc.... eventually the damn files return to my ownership. So my questions are: Why does it keep changing ownership? How can I make the ownership sticky (remain root)? What caused this problem, so I can prevent it in the future.
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:02:32 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5eges8$q63@hpax.cup.hp.com> I found out that you can't mount /tmp from a floppy when booting from NS3.3's CD in single-user mode. NS3.2 works fine. i.e. bsd(x,0,0)sdmach -s rootdev=sdx (x=drive of CD) . . . * mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp * works on NS3.2, but on 3.3, I get an error about private/tmp is read-only. Doing a mount -o remount on the root directory fails as well. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: lebmjb@juno.com (lebmjb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:45:43 GMT Organization: LEBMJB Message-ID: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII If this has been asked before (and I'm sure it has), I appoligize. I am new to these NeXT newgroups. How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. Thanks -- Larry
From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: novice's question ... multiple displays on a slab Date: 19 Feb 1997 02:07:05 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m2vi7p2s12.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> I have heard rumours and specualtions, but is it possible to have a multiheaded NeXT slab? if so, what are the conditions and where to buy the parts? Regards Nick
From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark T. Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: 200 Mhz Dell Pentium and NS 3.3 not booting correctly Date: 20 Feb 1997 06:09:30 GMT Organization: Sympatico Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egpqq$28i$1@news1.sympatico.ca> We are having some difficulty getting NS 3.3 to boot properly on a 200 Mhz Dell Pentium with a builtin S3 TrioV+ video chip. Installation was perfect, but if you let the machine do a normal boot, the OS cannot find the video chip. However, if you boot with a "-v" at the boot prompt all is well ( I think ). It seems that 3.3 times out before all the hardware is registered in the OS. BTW, 4.1 is perfect. If anyone has any suggesttions or help please respond by email to the address below. Thanks in advance -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road, Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com
From: Rakesh Dubey <rdubey@cisco.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 00:18:13 -0800 Organization: Cisco Systems, Inc. Message-ID: <330C08C5.1A45@cisco.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5ebj97$p5a@gaea.titan.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com wrote: > > In article <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com>, Don Yacktman wrote: > > > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) and EIDE > > CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've been trying to get > it > > to play audio CDs, but it refuses to cooperate. I cannot get it to work > with > > CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has > a > > similar configuration and has been able to make this work. > > (I sent this to Don via email, but I thought it might be of more > general interest, and actually, I'm hoping that someone who knows more > about SCSI/ATAPI programming might be able to help me.) > > You might try removing OmniCD (or moving it to some place where the > system won't try to autolaunch it), then pop in your audio cd. (You'll > generally need to log out and log back in to get the system to stop > trying to launch OmniCD.) If all goes well, CDPlayer will autolaunch > and open the cd normally. (I've not experimented with this very much.) > > OmniCD has two (known) problems with ATAPI cdrom drives: > > The first is that OmniCD currently scans the SCSI bus looking for cdrom > devices, and at the same time builds a map between physical SCSI ids > and logical ids. I'm checking whether or not there's a device at a > given ID by opening the generic SCSI device, setting the appropriate > target id (I always use LUN 0 here, which is why OmniCD doesn't work on > other LUNs), and then clearing unit attention (via a Request Sense). > That Request Sense fails on ATAPI devices (not sure why - I thought > that one would work), so I go back thinking there's no device on that > ID. (If I ignore failure on the Request Sense, I go back thinking > there's a device on _every_ ID.) I don't know much about SCSI/ATAPI > programming, so if anyone tells me the correct way to do this, I'll fix > it. Rakesh Dubey could probably help me here, but I've been unable to > contact him. > Mode sense/request do not work for the NeXT ATAPI driver. This is a bug that needed to get fixed when I quit NeXT. Why don't you try Test Unit Ready instead? ATAPI support for playing audio CDs is rather weak since this is one area where the SCSI command set and the ATAPI command set differ. The ATAPI commands are richer but one needs to change the application to support that. The CDPlayer.app is pretty primitive in the way it deals with CDs. > The second problem is that the commands for changing volume are > different on EIDE devices, so even when I set it up so I can address an > ATAPI device, I can't change the volume. I expect I could Again, any > clues here would be appreciated. > > I imagine that the reason CDPlayer can work with ATAPI drives is that > it doesn't scan the bus - it just tries to open whatever device the > system tells it to when an audio cd is mounted. I haven't tested > whether or not CDPlayer can change the audio volume for ATAPI cdrom > drives, but I suspect it can or I would have probably heard otherwise. > > Note that even CDPlayer will require an ATAPI drive - not just any EIDE > cdrom drive will work. > EIDE is marketing nuisance. Any CD-ROM that you can connect to an IDE controller is ATAPI. > -andrew > > -- > andrew_abernathy@omnigroup.com - NeXTmail & MIME ok -Rakesh
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Date: 20 Feb 1997 09:37:57 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5eh61l$f9f@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Hello, I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there something like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to remove/replace the power supply)? thanx winfried -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: dejo0018@itlabs.umn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 12:24:04 -0600 Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <330B4544.63FD@itlabs.umn.edu> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> <jbf_see_signature-ya023580001502971326460001@news.tiac.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would have to agree with James. I bought a Seagate drive from Bason last summer. They went so far as too tell me that I probably wouldn't want that model because it was a 5 1/4" full height drive. But, I have a full tower case with room to spare. The drive was shipped promptly and packed very securely. Installation was relatively simple and it's been problem free ever since. Brad DeJong
From: willem@mht3.gintic.gov.sg (Willem van Schaik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable NeXT to HP 500C Date: 20 Feb 1997 15:45:07 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <5ehri3$e17@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> References: <cward-1402971106120001@adnline1191.adnc.com> cward@adnc.com wrote: : Is anyone using a Desk Jet 500C with Black Hardware? : If so is the mini Din 8 to DB 25 pinouts the same as in the ZS Man pages? Ooops, that's long time ago. But I had it working easily. As far as I remember it was just as zs man-pages are saying. An (out of my head) indead a null modem cable. Did you set the switches the right way? OK, if nobody else is able to send you an answer on this, send me an e-mail at willem@gintic.gov.sg and I will try to dig up whatever I can find. I still have printer and cable, although I now normally will use my NeXT laserprinter. Willem
From: pieterh@sci.kun.nl (Peter den Haan) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 20 Feb 1997 17:05:54 +0100 Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands Message-ID: <5ehsp2$tr@pion.sci.kun.nl> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <330A46D3.5904@prodigy.net> <330b38ca.23348206@news.prolink.de> ralf@prolink.de (Ralf Niederhuefner) writes: >egg123 <egg123@prodigy.net> wrote: > >>> one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be >>> used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your >> >>Yes, but don't you think that the software developer's making new MMX >>software, are also aware of this, and would program differently because >>of it. > >funny idea. so if the programmers have to optimize the software for >MMX, what do we need this chip for ??? For the 15-20% speed boost it gives regardless of MMX? >Optimized machine-code WITHOUT MMX is much faster than working >around this MMX/FPU problem. Aw, cm'on, did YOU ever code something in x86 assembly? Doesn't sound like it. Well, I did (not a great lot, but hey, it's not something you'd do out of your own free will). The sharing of registers between FPU and MMX operations isn't much of a problem to start with. You will not want to mix both types of instructions usually, and in the rare cases where you would want to, you can now at least choose which of the two is fastest and stick with that. Before, it was FPU or nothing. Oh, sure, you'll have to save FPU registers in task/thread switches. Big deal. You needed to do that anyway. - Peter -- pieterh@sci.kun.nl http://thef-nym.sci.kun.nl/~pieterh/
From: jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: No color , NS 3.3, ATI card Date: 20 Feb 1997 16:22:55 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <5ehtov$k88@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Hello everyone, I hope that someone out there can help us with this problem: We have recently tried installing Nextstep version 3.3 on your average vanilla pentium with an EIDE disk. After many problems getting a network card WITH a driver and setting up a Network installation server we got it to work. Almost. We cannot, try as we might, get the screen to show color under NS. We have loaded a DOS diskette and run the various setup utilities, (modes, centering, blah, blah) and color works just fine. However, despite repeated attempts at driver/mode selection under NS it persists grayscale. If someone out there has had similar difficulties, we would certainly appreciate a leg up, as neither of us are PC hardware experts, as may be blatantly obvious (let's hear it for the black hardware!!). Some details, which may or may not be relevant are: Card: PCI ATI-264VT Controller revision 0 Base I/O 6100h Relocatable: Enabled Video BIOS version 3.008 Shared Memory boundary Monitor: ViewSonic 15GS (one of those plug+play things) Thanks in advance to everyone. Jake -- Why you wanna be reading them long-haired books for boy? -Foghorn Leghorn
From: "JOACHIM MOSAKU" <jo@fbtconsultancy.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEC VERSA 6030X laptop driver needed Date: 20 Feb 1997 02:39:38 GMT Organization: FBT CONSULTANCY Message-ID: <01bc1ed7$4efdf780$e6f983c1@jo> Driver for NEC VERSA 6030X laptop needed for OpenStep 4.1. It uses a Chips & Technologies 65550 chipset and 2MB VRAM and 16bit colour at 1024x768. Has anyone resolved issues associated with swapping between CD ROM and floppy drive in the Versa bay. Many thanks, Jo Mosaku, jo@easynet.co.uk
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] IBM 2GB HDD and NEXTSTEP Install Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 03:59:27 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <330C9F01.4698@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Has any one installed NEXTSTEP IBM 2GB HDD(Model: DORS-32160)? I saw the README file for large partition disks at NeXTansware 1533. And I did as following. localhost:5# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2063 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 68 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ***Format Complete*** localhost:6# scsimodes /dev/rsd1a SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: IBM DORS-32160 512 bytes per sector 125 sectors per track 5 tracks per cylinder 6703 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 0 spare sectors per cylinder 0 alternate tracks per volume 4226724 usable sectors on volume "I copyed following text to /etc/disktab." DORS-32160|IBM DORS-32160|IBM DORS-32160 S82C:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#6703:nt#5:ns#125:ss#512:rm#5400:\ :fp#320:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#64:z1#192:hn=brow:\ :pa#0:sa#4194144:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:\ :oa=time:ia:ta=4.3BSD:\ localhost:7# disk -t DORS-32160 -i /dev/rsd1a disk name: DORS-32160 disk type: fixed_rw_scsi The device is mounted as a filesystem and can't be initialized. localhost:8# Thanks for any pointers or advice. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 17 Feb 1997 13:26:26 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) > and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've > been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to > cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app > and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar > configuration and has been able to make this work. All the CD-playing applications for NeXTSTEP that I know about are using SCSI commands to run the CD. If the cd-rom is not on the scsi chain, then the applications are not going to be able to drive it. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 20 Feb 1997 10:51:17 -0800 Organization: CRL Network Services (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> In article <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, Cmoore <cmoore@cyberport.com> wrote: >I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the >past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that >anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing >about it. There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module from NeXT and a384k from SanFrancsicoSU. The DSP is very useful in music/sound applications, but I think that the color nexts might use it for video(don't quote me on that). It can be used to do real-time sound synthesis using the MusicKit from Stanford's CCRMA or programs such as WaveEdit or CCRMA's physical modelling software. There is also Ensemble, which is a MIDI sequencer that can use the DSP as the Midi controlled synthesizer. Oh yeah, also there is TTYDSP, which uses the DSP as a serial port controller. That's what I know of. -HC -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:36:04 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) DISK UNFORMATTED Disk is Write Protected probing for DOS probing for CDROM probing for mac probing for cdaudio Feb 20 16:06:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio in the console, after which there is no problem. I've checked and rechecked temination and SCSI ID as well as I could given the the case's inadequate docs. So what's wrong? Since it actually works, should I care? I just don't want to damage the on-board SCSI controller or risk data on the HD. Thanks for any info or advice, Babak
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] IBM 2GB HDD and NEXTSTEP Install-2 Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 06:02:32 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <330CBBE6.26C0@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <330C9F01.4698@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In this time, I used BuildDisk.app to build NEXTSTEP 3.3. The BuildDisk.app understand IBM 2GB HDD's actual size (2063MB) at build disk pannel and started build. When finished build, I logged-out and logged-in, and I found a "NewDisk" icon in the File Viewer. But It has only total 1GB size. Where is rest of 2GB? 1GB is gone. How could I format my IBM 2GB HDD to build NEXTSTEP 3.3? Please let me know. Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 20 Feb 1997 21:10:19 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > > > > I've got a Pentium Pro machine with a SCSI hard drive (boot disk) > > and EIDE CDROM drive on it running OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1. I've > > been trying to get it to play audio CDs, but it refuses to > > cooperate. I cannot get it to work with CDPlayer.app or OmniCD.app > > and so I'd like to know if anyone out there has a similar > > configuration and has been able to make this work. > > All the CD-playing applications for NeXTSTEP that I know about are > using SCSI commands to run the CD. If the cd-rom is not on the > scsi chain, then the applications are not going to be able to drive > it. The APAPI drive makes the drive masquerade as a SCSI device, so it does work. I've managed to get CDPlayer.app to work, sort of, by removing OmniCD from the system (it does not yet work, though I think Andrew knows how to get it to at least work as well as CDPlayer.app now, so perhaps a new version will be forthcoming). I can play audio via the headphone jack, but not through the sound card, since the volume control in CDPlayer.app doesn't work at all and leaves the volume at zero. Accoring to an engineer at NeXT I spoke with, this is a known bug in the ATAPI driver. Just thought you'd want to know about the above... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: novice's question ... multiple displays on a slab Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5x3Bx.Ds0@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:55:09 GMT References: <m2vi7p2s12.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <m2vi7p2s12.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca>, Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> wrote: > >I have heard rumours and specualtions, >but is it possible to have a multiheaded NeXT slab? >if so, what are the conditions and where to buy the parts? > No, you can't have a multiheaded slab. You can have a multiheaded cube if you plug in one or more NeXTdimension boards. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (Satoru Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: file ownership Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:12:33 GMT Organization: data communication and networking services Distribution: world Message-ID: <5egff1$btg@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <5ecq0j$btd@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: : I'm having a problem with file ownership. : My root disk / is owned by the system and everything is fine with that. : However my second and third scsi disks and all of the files on them keep changing ownership to my account . : This is because the file system on the second and third drives are mounted at the time you logged in. The WorkspaceManager sets the owner to the user logged in at the time. To solve your problem, you need to set the file systems to be mounted at the time of booting up. This can be done by adding entries in the file /etc/fstab like /dev/sd2a /Users 4.3 rw,noquota noauto 0 1 (this is my fstab entry, my /Users directory is on a seprate disk) where the /dev/sdXa and /"MountPoint" should be changed to match your configuration. Look at "fstab" man page for more helps. !!Caution!! A mistake can cause the machine to be unbootable! Edit /etc/fstab file carefully! Enjoy! -- Satoru Uzawa, satoru@candenext.lsa.berkeley.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: John Haver <jhaver@alverno.ssfhs.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cirrus Logic 5436/NS3.3/Intel Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 19:13:28 -0500 Organization: Alverno Administrative Services, Inc. Message-ID: <330CE8A8.66A6@alverno.ssfhs.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm trying to get a Compaq DeskPro 2000 to run Nextstep 3.3 for Intel and use the Integrated Cirrus Logic 5436 chipset that comes with the box. I've downloaded the GD5434 drivers version 3.31 from next and they don't work (lock up the screen with garbage patterns). The drivers for 4.0 say they'll work with the 5436 but unsupported -- but I can't upgrade to 4.0 yet because the application (purchased) doesn't support it yet. Are there any third party vendors who have such a driver or would I be better off just buying a Matrox MGA Millenium PCI card and using Next's V3.30 driver (Nextanswer 1975)? I mentioned the Matrox card because it's an option from Compaq. Thanks in advance for any advice. John Haver
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Laser Printer on PC: Can it be done? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E5uwvC.I99@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 15:40:24 GMT References: <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5ecn8n$eqp@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu>, <ATL2@lehigh.edu> wrote: >Hi all, > >OK, I'm pretty sure I know the answer to this, but I'm duty bound to query >before dropping $$$ on a new postscript printer: > >Is there any way (bus card? adaptor?) my old NeXT printer can be used on an >Intel PC running NEXTSTEP? > No. It can't be done unless you're prepared to reverse-engineer the high-speed serial protocol between the printer and the NeXT machine, design and build hardware to produce it, write software to drive it, and then interface it with a PostScript interpreter on the PC. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Fri, 21 Feb 97 01:15:53 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Feb-97 HELP: Network >NeXT to a De.. by lebmjb@juno.com >> How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to >> know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. > <info about 10Base2 & 10BaseT ethernet ellided.> > >Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large >installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable >but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or >so for a decent 8-port hub. > As long as you stay with just two machines, you can leave out the hub and use a crossover cable between the ethernet cards. Jeff trail@ix.netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <330d1e84.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 21 Feb 97 04:03:16 GMT In article <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com>, Cmoore <cmoore@cyberport.com> wrote: > >I am new to the NeXT, i have a color station. > >I am interested in the DSP and want to find out whats been done in the >past with it? any hardware add ons or software projects that >anyone knows of, or DSP source code, i would be interested in hearing >about it. > >thanks. > There is the articulatory speech synthesis system created by Trillium Sound Research Inc -- a company with which I am associated. For more information, email trillium@trillium.ab.ca david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <mirko@next.procom.it> Message-ID: <199702202035.VAA00233@next.procom.it> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Mirko Viviani <mirko@procom.it> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 21:35:15 +0100 Subject: HD problem... Ciao... I'm trying to do some experiment with a quantum hd on NS3.3pl1... The problem is that I'm not able to initialize a NS partition from a shell root account, but if I press the 'Initialize' gadget of the Workspace when a user login all work correctly ! This is the Workspace console output: /usr/etc/disk -i -h next -l "NeXT-prg" -d 1465869312 /dev/rsd1a NEXTSTEP partition base = 32 NEXTSTEP partition size = 1431520 disk name: QUANTUM LIGHTNING 730S disk type: fixed_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot0 Writing /usr/standalone/i386/boot1 creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1431200 128 4 8192 1024 16 10 60 4096 t Warning: 352 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rsd1a: 1431200 sectors in 2796 cylinders of 4 tracks, 128 sectors 732.8Mb in 175 cyl groups (16 c/g, 4.19Mb/g, 960 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b#) at: 32, 8352, 16672, 24992, 32800, 41120, 49440, 57760, 65568, 73888, 82208, 90528, 98336, 106656, 114976, 123296, 131104, 139424, 147744, 156064, 163872, 172192, 180512, 188832, 196640, 204960, 213280, 221600, 229408, 237728, 246048, 254368, 262176, 270496, 278816, 287136, 294944, 303264, 311584, 319904, 327712, 336032, 344352, 352672, 360480, 368800, 377120, 385440, 393248, 401568, 409888, 418208, 426016, 434336, 442656, 450976, 458784, 467104, 475424, 483744, 491552, 499872, 508192, 516512, 524320, 532640, 540960, 549280, 557088, 565408, 573728, 582048, 589856, 598176, 606496, 614816, 622624, 630944, 639264, 647584, 655392, 663712, 672032, 680352, 688160, 696480, 704800, 713120, 720928, 729248, 737568, 745888, 753696, 762016, 770336, 778656, 786464, 794784, 803104, 811424, 819232, 827552, 835872, 844192, 852000, 860320, 868640, 876960, 884768, 893088, 901408, 909728, 917536, 925856, 934176, 942496, 950304, 958624, 966944, 975264, 983072, 991392, 999712, 1008032, 1015840, 1024160, 1032480, 1040800, 1048608, 1056928, 1065248, 1073568, 1081376, 1089696, 1098016, 1106336, 1114144, 1122464, 1130784, 1139104, 1146912, 1155232, 1163552, 1171872, 1179680, 1188000, 1196320, 1204640, 1212448, 1220768, 1229088, 1237408, 1245216, 1253536, 1261856, 1270176, 1277984, 1286304, 1294624, 1302944, 1310752, 1319072, 1327392, 1335712, 1343520, 1351840, 1360160, 1368480, 1376288, 1384608, 1392928, 1401248, 1409056, 1417376, 1425696, initialization complete If I do the same thing in a root shell it exits when newfs starts mkfs, don't know why, but I don't specify the -d ... option in /usr/etc/disk arguments. The -d flag for 'disk' is not specified in the man page, what do it does ? The curious thing if that the cylinder, tracks and sectors printed by mkfs are not the same as the mode_sense command of fdisk, see the fdisk output: Partition Table ---------------- Act H S Cyl Id H S Cyl Begin Size --- - - --- -- - - --- ----- ---- 80 1 1 0 a7 3f 20 2ba 20 15d7e0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Disk Information ----------------- Disk statistics according to device driver and bios: device: 699 Megabytes, 1431760 sectors bios: 699 Megabytes, 1431552 sectors cylinders = 699, heads = 64, sectors/track = 32 Is there anyone that could explain me this problem ? Thanks ! --- Bye, Mirko <mirko@procom.it> (NeXTmail, MIME)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:46:19 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <330D60B7.6C53@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> >1. What kind of hardware and software > do I need to connect two cubes? You need only BNC type network cable to connect two cube. And use some network setup software in your /NextAdmin folder. Next, check out /NextLibrary/Documentation/ folder. >4. What kind of memory do I use to > upgrade my RAM? If you have a 030 or 040 cube(non-turbo), you should get 30 pin ram (70~100ms). >8. Does an academic bundle include both > developer and user? Yes, Please visit following web site: http://www.optimal-object.com/ >12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a > machine with an 030 chip? Yes, NEXTSTEP 3.3 work on 030 cube, but very slow. Probably, OPENSTEP will work too. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: "Jeff Chapman" <Jeff_Chapman@Wolfe.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT Organization: Wolfe Internet Access Message-ID: <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... > On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: > > > > > >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, <snip> No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right?
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:38:13 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> I have a number of questions I'm hoping to get some answers on.... 1. What kind of hardware and software do I need to connect two cubes? 2. I want to upgrade my RAM and hard drive. Should I install a new OS, then upgrade the hardware, or visa versa? 3. I purchased a swap drive. Would it fit in a slot normally kept available for a second hard drive? 4. What kind of memory do I use to upgrade my RAM? 7. Is it possible to do a destructive install so that after upgrading an OS the machine behaves like it is new? 8. Does an academic bundle include both developer and user? 9. Can one use TTYDSP with Openstep 4.1? What kind of modem can be used with TTYDSP so one can use a regular phone line? (Is this possible?) 10. Can you recommend a modem (to run on the serial port? Will I have to purchase a special NeXT cable? Is there a cable/ modem which I can use to put my computer on the Web without having to have an ISDN line? 11. Ah, I have the NS 3.3 User CD. I think I can purchase NS 3.3 Developer for about 400$. This includes a license, but it is very unlikely I'll ever want to develop and sell some software. My goal is to put my own machine on the Web. My roommate is a full time student. Am I better off getting 3.3, or OpenStep? 12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a machine with an 030 chip? Thanks, Emmett
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Laser Printers? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 07:52:48 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg35902.thr-1fb0d8.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg35902.thr-1fb0d8.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> If I remember from the 80s, the NeXT laser printer is less expensive than other laser printers because it doesn't have to crunch any postscript internally--the OS does that for it. IF that is the case, is it possible to print to a NeXT printer from a Mac? I would like to be able to connect a NeXT laser printer to my cube (which has no printing at all right now), and allow my wife's mac (connected 10Base-T to the hub & cube--no other machines on our mini-net, no NetInfo but could set it up if necessary) to print to it (in fact, she will do more printing than I will). Is this possible? If third party solutions are necessary, what are they? Secondly, what is the availability of toner and other expendibles for the NeXT printers? Does it use a "standard" toner cartridge or it is a proprietary NeXT one? Any sense of the costs to maintain a NeXT printer? Many thanks. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ Center for Educational Tech. herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org Subject: Re: Has anyone used multple SCSI controllers on Intel? Message-ID: <E5vI8B.28E@free.fdn.fr> Sender: news@free.fdn.fr Organization: Fabien Roy Consultant. References: <5e1r13$93s@papoose.quick.com> <5e3hg2$opd@news2.cais.com> Date: Wed, 19 Feb 1997 23:21:47 GMT Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> wrote: > I am currently running two SCSI controllers in my Pentium Pro system. > One is the Adaptec 2940UW and the other is the Adaptec 2940N. > > -- > Robert La Ferla > Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant > HTI > Boston, MA - Washington, DC > + 1 (617) 252-0088 > I got a ATX ASUS PPRO with one ASUS 2940 UW/Audio combo and one NCR 53C810. I use the 53C810 for the slow devices (ie CDROM). I can read data CDROM but cant read audio? The app does not find the CDROM device. Does somebody have a solution for the audio problem ? -- Fabien Roy --------------------------------------------------------------------- Fabien_Roy@free.fdn.org (NextMail/MIME accepted) Fabien Roy Consultant NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/EOF Consultant, SYBASE DBA 10 rue de la DEFENSE 93100 MONTREUIL, France Tel: 33 (0)1 45 28 32 23 Fax: 33 (0)1 48 55 09 90 GSM: 33 (0)6 60 46 36 83
From: jkeenan@next.com (Joe Keenan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installation NextStep 3.1 from EDI CD-ROM Date: 20 Feb 1997 00:45:40 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5eg6rk$jh5@news.next.com> References: <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> In article <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> egiessen@worldonline.nl (Bobo) writes: > I'am trying to install NextStep 3.1 on my Cyrix powered PC. However my > CD-ROM player is EDI, not SCSI. The installationprogram assumes SCSI. > > Does anyone know if it's possible to install it from EDI CD-ROM or am I > supposed to by SCSI? NS 3.1 doesn't support EIDE CD-ROMs. And NextStep in general doesn't run on Cyrix processors. No matter what they tell you, it's not 100% compatable. joe
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 21 Feb 1997 15:53:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970221155300.KAA11995@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> v74 ROMS here too anyone know any more info? TIA, Joe
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:44:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> In-Reply-To: <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Feb-97 Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a.. by Jeff Trestrail@ix.netcom >> Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large >> installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable >> but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or >> so for a decent 8-port hub. > > As long as you stay with just two machines, you can leave out the hub > and use a crossover cable between the ethernet cards. Yes, _but_. :-) While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: egiessen@worldonline.nl (Bobo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installation NextStep 3.1 from EDI CD-ROM Date: Wed, 19 Feb 97 22:02:31 GMT Organization: World Online Message-ID: <5eft72$3aj$1@neptune.worldonline.nl> I'am trying to install NextStep 3.1 on my Cyrix powered PC. However my CD-ROM player is EDI, not SCSI. The installationprogram assumes SCSI. Does anyone know if it's possible to install it from EDI CD-ROM or am I supposed to by SCSI? Eimert egiessen@worldonline.nl
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 21 Feb 1997 18:28:27 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5ekpgb$rm0@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51> <-> <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org> In article <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org>, Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >mount -t 4.3 -o remount,rw,noquota,noauto /dev/sd0a / The kernel panics. Oh well. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTStation Power Supplies Date: 21 Feb 1997 21:54:06 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Message-ID: <5el5hu$6t3@babyblue.cs.yale.edu> References: <5d4vbp$6fo@abel.ic.sunysb.edu> Richard K. Larson (rlarson@semlab5.sbs.sunysb.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know a company from which I can purchase a new power supply : for an old black NeXTStation turbo monochrome machine? : I'm looking for a suitable replacement part and the part number. I had a : machine die on Friday. : -Richard Larson : SUNY Stony Brook Check out http://www.deepspacetech.com/Nexthardware.html . They list NeXT power supplies for $59. You'll have to look on their home page at http://www.deepspacetech.com/ to get their phone and FAX numbers. I had a very good experience dealing with them last week and can recommend the company to you. I FAXed an order in on Sunday. It arrived the next Wednesday, carefully packed and in perfect condition. Couldn't have been easier! ================================================== | Michael Fischer <fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu> | | Professor of Computer Science | ==================================================
From: animat@erols.com (Michele Chubirka) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 17:29:14 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Message-ID: <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> Okay, Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a programmer. Michele On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" <Jeff_Chapman@Wolfe.net> wrote: > > >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: >> >> >> > >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, <snip> > >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? >
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:32:51 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module >from NeXT and a384k from SanFrancsicoSU. The DSP is very useful in >music/sound applications, but I think that the color nexts might use it >for video(don't quote me on that). It can be used to do real-time sound >synthesis using the MusicKit from Stanford's CCRMA or programs such as >WaveEdit or CCRMA's physical modelling software. There is also Ensemble, >which is a MIDI sequencer that can use the DSP as the Midi controlled >synthesizer. Oh yeah, also there is TTYDSP, which uses the DSP as a >serial port controller. That's what I know of. There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:00:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> In article <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com>, JoeGidi <joegidi@aol.com> wrote: >The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: > >sc: scintr program error > >the machine then starts up as normal. My station does this, too. v74 of the ROM. Sometimes it's there, sometimes it's not. It tends to be the cause for its inability to boot off CD-ROM without manual intervention in my case. If anyone out there (Mike?) knows, please share. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: "Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson" <ken@acni-2.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 21 Feb 1997 02:45:25 GMT Organization: Gleason Consulting Message-ID: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and then copy the files back, and reboot. The machine is the authoritative source for NetInfo for the domain. Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? thanks, in advance, Ken Gleason ken@mpimedia.com
From: spammers@ruin.the.internet Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:27:19 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -Auth- @ascended.channelu.com Message-ID: <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> Cc: klui@cup.hp.com In <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> Ken Lui wrote: > In article <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com>, > JoeGidi <joegidi@aol.com> wrote: > >The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: > > > >sc: scintr program error > > > >the machine then starts up as normal. > > My station does this, too. v74 of the ROM. Sometimes it's there, > sometimes it's not. It tends to be the cause for its inability > to boot off CD-ROM without manual intervention in my case. If > anyone out there (Mike?) knows, please share. > Hey folks.. I don't think I've ever seen that error. (scintr program error) I've seen other sc: errors but not that. I would wonder what HD's you have in your systems, and what the termination situation is.. E-mail me with the info.. Also do you get the error on a warm reset or just on cold boots (might be your HD is still spinning up, or readying itself).. Randy -- Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Consulting, Turbo Software Programming, etc.) rencsok@channelu.com or rencsok@argus.cem.msu.edu http://www.channelu.com or http://slater.cem.msu.edu - /~rencsok Note: My reply to header is invalid because spammers are abusing it's use.
From: Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 21 Feb 1997 22:35:26 GMT Organization: Grolier Interactive Europe Message-ID: <5el7ve$s3h@news.grolier.fr> References: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with >NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI >case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works >fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get No problem. I have quite the same warnings with my Pionneer x10 CD-ROM. And it works. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Éric Lévénez "Felix qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas" mailto:levenez@club-internet.fr Publius Vergilius Maro, (NeXTMail, MIME) Georgica, II-489 --------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:53:58 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> In-Reply-To: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 20-Feb-97 HELP: Network NeXT to a De.. by lebmjb@juno.com > How can we network a NeXT computer to a Dell Pentium computer? I need to > know the actual physical hook-up, ie; network cards, cables, etc. First, you've got a choice between 10-Base-2 and 10-Base-T ethernet. The first is composed of shielded RG-58/U cable (also known "thin" ethernet) which looks much like VCR cabling, and involves T-shaped BNC connectors and needs 50-ohm terminators at the ends of the cabling; the other uses what's essentially high-grade unshielded phone wiring in a star topology (category 5 or better, IIRC) and a RJ-45 connector that resembles an oversized phone jack. The NeXT machine has both connectors, so you can choose either one. For the PC, you'll need to get a network card; Intel's EtherExpress line is inexpensive and offers good performance and I've heard very few complaints. Again, you'll probably end up with a card which offers both a BNC and a RJ-45 connector. Thin ethernet is cheaper, but somewhat less reliable for large installations; 10-base-T requires a star topology which is more reliable but also means you'll need to get hubs which cost some bucks-- ~$120 or so for a decent 8-port hub. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: scholz@leo.org (Bernhard Scholz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: AMD K5 & NS/OS Date: 20 Feb 1997 22:34:54 GMT Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen Message-ID: <5eijie$8eb@xenia.informatik.uni-muenchen.de> References: <5drht9$dj5@news.us.net> <1997Feb14.104806.445@gamelan.shnet.org> <5e5v8c$c3g@news.us.net> bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) wrote: >The AMD K5 *is* faster than a Pentium at the *same* clock >speed. However, the AMD K5 133 is actually a 100Mhz chip. With >the P-speed benchmarks, AMD claims the AMD 100Mhz K5 is the same >speed as a 133Mhz Pentium for integer operations (and thus >calls it a 133 chip). I have heard that the AMD's floating >point speed is not as fast as the 133Mhz Pentium, but that's >not substantiated. Is the K5-133 (clocked at 100MHz, right?) Pin compatible with an Intel Pentium 100? Then this would be a nice processor upgrade for me :) Greetings, Bernhard. -- Bernhard Scholz http://www.leo.org/~scholz/ Peanuts FTP Admin http://peanuts.leo.org/ scholz@leo.org, (StuSta ONLY: boerny@xenia.stusta.mhn.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Where to get disktab entry for NEC 3x CDROM? Message-ID: <ukvlo8h205n.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 23:45:56 GMT Does anyone have, or know where I could obtain, a disktab entry for an NEC 3x CD-ROM drive for black? Thanks! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: WTB: NeXT CD ROM (external) Date: 17 Feb 1997 22:33:24 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5eambk$c6r@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <tj-1702970831500001@i530.oro.net> tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) wrote: > The NeXT brand CD ROM, black, I think was 2 x or... It was single speed. Not much remarkable about it, other than it's black. Unless you specifically want a NeXT cd-rom for the novelty value, you might be better off looking for an Apple CD300 or CD600 drive. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: "Stuart Dickson" <cool.dude@ukonline.co.uk> Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,microsoft.public.hardware Subject: Spinning down util? Date: 21 Feb 1997 23:02:31 GMT Organization: [posted via] UK Online Ltd Message-ID: <01bc204b$d9551880$8a7106c2@default> Has anyone got a spinning down util for Win 95 will trade anything!!! cool.dude@ukonline.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware,comp.sys.acorn.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware From: bear@indra.com (Bear Giles) Subject: Re: Beware of Bason Hard Drive Warehouse Sender: usenet@indra.com (System Administrator) Organization: Acme University, W. E. Coyote president Message-ID: <E5zG5A.916@indra.com> References: <emon-ya023480000402971419020001@newshost.gte.com> <32F7F906.60ED@mindspring.com> <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com> <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 02:27:09 GMT In article <5e4kk2$3re@fridge-nf0.shore.net>, Glenn Visser <*Bards@shore.net> wrote: >In article <E5Gwny.n4D@indra.com>, bear@indra.com says... > >>> And if you are unlucky like me, you won't find out until the drive >>> starts to fail and the manufacturer tells you that the warranty has >>> expired. > >***** The drives were brand new, never been opened! ***** >***** Still in the DEC OEM box. ***** > >But the warranty was expired with Seagate. So this is what Bason and many >others are probably doing. You are getting a new drive at a great price. And >it IS new so they can say that, but it's end of life product. You need to know >what you are buying and don't assume that what someone is selling is the >current model. We may be talking at cross-purposes here. The original poster referred to a "used" or "refurbished" disk drive. I wouldn't touch one of those with the proverbial 10-foot pole due to the classic bathtub mortality curve for disk drives. I can extend that curve for my own drives (e.g., by using a power conditioner and keeping the disks spun up to reduce the heavy load on the drive during spinup), but I have no idea how a used disk was treated. In contrast, I wouldn't mind an unused, old disk provided the seller was willing to back it for a few weeks to a month, just long enough for me to be sure that I was safely past the infant mortality period. There's only a low risk of failure in the first few weeks (esp. if the drives were "burned in" during manufacturing), and an negligible chance that they would fail between 1 month and 2-3 years. _That's_ why I said the situation sounded like fraud. Informed consumers would have a profoundly different response based on whether the drives were presented as "used or refurbished" vs. "unused, stock closeout." -- Bear Giles To treat your facts with imagination is one thing, bear'at'indra'dot'com but to imagine your facts is another. -- John Burroughs
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: help with NeXTstation bootup anomaly Date: 22 Feb 1997 01:39:42 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5eliou$5f3@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <19970219225800.RAA08496@ladder02.news.aol.com> <5egeot$q12@hpax.cup.hp.com> <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> In article <5el7g7$79n$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, <spammers@ruin.the.internet> wrote: > I would wonder what HD's you >have in your systems, and what the termination situation is.. Quantum: LP105S as well as a PD210S. I've received the sc... errors with either drive (they're not both connected). Both have terminators when they're in the 'station, but they're not that common. I get the sc errors when I try to boot off CD-ROM almost all the time. >E-mail me with the info.. Also do you get the error on a warm reset or >just on cold boots (might be your HD is still spinning up, or readying >itself).. Warm and cold. Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014-0795 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
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From: fucuco@hamlet.net (Good Friend) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:30:13 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Subject: cmsg cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Control: cancel <330d7930.6000913@news.uoknor.edu> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Fri Feb 21 15:14:41 1997 Original subject was: Learn to Make $$$FAST CASH$$$ With Honest Work
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702202248.RAA05660@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:48:03 -0500 Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 09:37:57 GMT Message-ID: cd5ccd30aa484cfab45743d570437556 - > I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there > something like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to > remove/replace the power supply)? It isn't specific for the power supply, but you can find instructions for taking the printer apart at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702202246.RAA05640@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 20 Feb 97 17:46:22 -0500 Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Original Date: 20 Feb 1997 03:02:32 GMT Message-ID: 32d5d64eb55e7f73595edecac14d4b51 - > * mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp > > * works on NS3.2, but on 3.3, I get an error about private/tmp > is read-only. Doing a mount -o remount on the root directory > fails as well. Haven't tried this, but try mount -t 4.3 -o remount,rw,noquota,noauto /dev/sd0a / mount -n /dev/fd0a /tmp or mount -n /dev/rfd0a /tmp let me know if it works... TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL! EMAIL ADDRESS: Please use the PEAK address and not the NERC one
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Desktop Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:31:06 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2202971731060001@elmer.box.nl> Hello NeXT-lovers! Would anyone be so kind to help me quickly? I am writing a story about Steve Jobs and his return to Apple. I need a screendump of the NeXT-desktop (windows & icons) to illustrate the way the Apple-finder could change. Please email a dump to janvdie@box.nl Ofcourse I will send you a copy of the magazine with the story in return. Thanks in advance!
From: Nick Poolos <poolos.1@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tahiti 2 MO Drive. Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 11:01:43 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <330F1867.6D02488C@osu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has any one gotten one of these to work on black hardware? I obtianed one surplus without any docs... Maxoptix only has the tahiti 3 and newer drives up on the support page. When probing the bus I get a "selection error" followed by the typical dump which points to the Tahiti drive. Any help would be appreciated. -- Nick Poolos poolos.1@osu.edu
From: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu (Uri Sarid) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dell Optiplex pro - Onboard networkcard Date: 21 Feb 1997 20:46:09 GMT Organization: University of Notre Dame Message-ID: <5el1ih$860@news.nd.edu> References: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> In-Reply-To: <5dcdmf$fr9@baldwin.rat.se> On 02/06/97, Lars Pehrsson wrote: >Has anyone succedded in installing nextstep on this machine and got the >onboard networkcard going ?? >Onboard networkcard is suppose to be 3-Com compatible. > > >Thanks in advance > >Research & Trade AB >Lars Pehrsson >lars@rat.se > I just got a DELL OptiPlex GXpro 200 MHz, with that new 3COM network chip installed on-board. I got a couple of opinions on the NeXTstep compatibility from NeXT technicians: the first said it should work with the appropriate driver and pointed me towards a new version of that driver, the second said there was no appropriate drivers for this very new version of the 3COM chip. I tried the first guy's advice, and I could not make it work. So I figured the second guy was right, and I went and bought a $59 3COM card of the older variety (3Com EtherLink III 3C509-B ISA), ran the config utility in DOS (but ignored the IRQ and port address settings which that utility displayed on the screen, and instead used the defaults chosen when I later used Configure.app) and that's worked ever since. Hope that helps. Uri (sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu) -- Uri Sarid Department of Physics office: (219) 631-6823 University of Notre Dame fax: (219) 631-5332 Notre Dame, IN 46556 (if fax fails, try -5952) e-mail: sarid@particle.phys.nd.edu
From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will NCR 875 SCSI work? Date: 22 Feb 1997 21:51:17 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <5enpol$rkl@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> Will the Asus SC-875 NCR 875 Chipset UltraFast/UltraWide PIC SCSI card work with Openstep 4.x? Nextanswers says that the supported chips are 810, 815, 820 and 825. Thanks. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: lebmjb@juno.com (lebmjb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? Date: 22 Feb 1997 17:36:50 GMT Organization: LEBMJB Message-ID: <5enari$tu0@composer.inav.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup and how do I get to it? Thanks -- Larry
From: brisinda@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Feb22104159@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 22 Feb 1997 17:41:59 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster PnP Config Problems Distribution: world I can't seem to get OPENSTEP to recognize my SoundBlaster 16 PnP. I've installed the lastest drivers for SoundBlaster, EISABus etc. as they are supposed to have better PnP support -- but to no avail. Here is the message I get during startup: Feb 21 16:11:53 pegasus mach: PnP: could not find card for driver 'SoundBlaster16' location '' instance 0 Feb 21 16:11:53 pegasus mach: configureDriver: could not allocate resources for class SoundBlaster16 Has anyone gotten this card to work with OPENSTEP? If so, could you email you /usr/Devices/SoundBlaster16.config/Instance0.table file and/or any other info then might be helpful? Thanks, Dale -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: 3Com Etherlink III PCI Message-ID: <E60MCt.62@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:38:52 GMT Does anyone know if there is still any hope of a 3.3 driver for this card appearing sometime in the future? thanks, Arno Bosse University of Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver Message-ID: <E60MKC.qM@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 17:43:24 GMT I have this driver running on a Dell PPro machine at 1280x1024 16bit, 75Hz - but I'm a little disappointed at the speed. 32bit basically was too slow to be of any use and even 16bit is not very snappy. By speed I mean the subjective impression of refresh "lag" one gets when moving windows. Does anyone know of anything I could do in terms of tweaking the settings to improve this? thanks, Arno Bosse Univ. of Chicago
From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Date: 22 Feb 1997 22:35:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970222223500.RAA15489@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <E60JF1.717@euler.han.de> If you go into the bowls of your NeXT printer and replace you fuse (the removable one), be aware that this will only be a temporary fix. There were 2 kinds of NeXT printer power supplies. Early one that were easily kill by a line voltage spike of 300 to 400 volt or sometime the fuse would blow or both. The later power supplies that that could withstand 5000 volts with no problem. If you do replace the fuse, you should find a good surge protector for your printer otherwise you'll end up replacing the fuse again. Hope this helps. JQ :-)
From: eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 22 Feb 1997 10:08:31 -0800 Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [Login: guest] Message-ID: <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> In article <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr>, Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: >eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >>There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module > >There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. > Oh yeah, I forgot about th emouch raved about voicemail/telephony package from ilink called mix. As far as I can tell it is a programmable voice mail system running on the DSP. -- Josh Waltzer and Hans-Christoph Steiner MIME, NeXTMail, SunMail and PlainOldMail accepted
From: jimmy _ webb <jwebb@korrnet.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Plotter for sale/trade Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 18:01:37 -0500 Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970222180007.27533B-100000@clarion.korrnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a plotter (Hewlett Packard 7550A) for sale/trade. Sale: 300 dollars Trade: VGA monitor w/ card Color or Laser Printer 100-560 mb hd. 9600 modem plus 50 dollars 14.4 modem or better jwebb@korrnet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: LaserPrinter disassemble,how? Message-ID: <E60JF1.717@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5eh61l$f9f@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:35:25 GMT Bergmann Winfried writes > Hello, > I have to repair the power supply of my next laserprinter. Is there something > like a guide to disassemble it (i.e. how to remove/replace the power supply)? Hope this helps: Subject: FYI: Fuses in Printer Date: 18 Oct 1993 19:01:16 GMT Message-ID: <29up5s$263@balu.hnv.icem.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Hello, I would like to share what I found out about fuses in your beloved NeXT-Laser-Printer. There have been numerous rumors about no fuses etc, even by NeXT-support-people. For those of you who feel up to rescuing your printer yourself or don't have the money for official support this info is intended as encouragement. As usual, this info comes with absolutely no warranty, use on your own risk, don't blame me, don't flame me etc. Also I do not know if this info is true for all NeXT-Laser-Printers. Good news first : There's at least two fuses in your printer. Bad news : it's a long way to get there (one's even soldered in its fittings). Fuse number one ( the easy one) : This fuse is supposed to be highly suspicious in case of interface-problems, since it seems to secure the power-supply for the NeXT-stuff. Remove toner-cartridge, turn printerupside-down, remove bottom of casing ( lots of screws all way round the sheet), find the small electronics which holds NeXT's interface (it is the same part which holds the connector for the NeXT-Printer-cable to fit in), remove this part out of its connector - the fuse is on its topside. Fuse number two : Remove toner-cartridge again, remove two black fittings on inside of black top cover-hood (make sure the cartridge holder does not crash into the depths of your printer; laser inside!), remove one screw in the middle of same inside of black top cover, remove black top cover, remove all the screws holding the black casing, running all around the printer (this may require to remove further parts, depending on your skills and your equipment. There's two screws behind the backside-cover, where the paper is supposed to come out. also, there's at least two screws into the bottom from the inside. If you cannot get at these screws for the cover is in the way, remove the black sheet at the backside of your printer, over the paper-outlet. It's fixed by two screws and inhibits further opening of the cover - forces stop at about 45 degrees.) Lift the cover straight up. It may not go all the way, then you have to use some finesse; try pressing the black casing a bit in all directions - but don't brake it. Remove the black sheet on left of fan - one screw, remove two screws fixing fan in its position - don't let it drop, there's a cable on its back. Find a fuse behind the fan (I found it was soldered into its fittings, good luck to you). Unidentified object : Yes, I found one, though not flying by any means. In the far left corner (consider NeXT-logo side to be front) there is something within the power-supply with "10A" printed beside. It has two cables attached to it. May be a bi-metal thermo switch to prevent overheating - I plain do not know. And the million dollar question? No, all fuses were intact, the printer is not running again. -- Good luck, Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: Where to get disktab entry for NEC 3x CDROM? Message-ID: <E60JqJ.722@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <ukvlo8h205n.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 16:42:19 GMT fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes > Does anyone have, or know where I could obtain, > a disktab entry for an NEC 3x CD-ROM drive for black? What would you need one for? Do you intend to format a cd in the drive? AFAIK disktabs are needed only to provide information for the partitioning/formatting process - which most cd-rom drives should not perform too easily. My nec 3xi cd-rom drive performs just fine without a disktab - but will fail to initialize any and all cds, I am afraid. Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: pwshomo@us.net Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 18:09:07 -0500 Organization: Smartnet Internet Services [via news] Message-ID: <330E2B13.3940@us.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MMX swapping can also cause errors in FP calculations. Not that Intel would have any experience with those type of errors... ;> regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money.
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How does one terminate the internal end of a Cube SCSI bus? Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:25:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> The old original Maxtor 330 Winchester has failed in my Cube. I'd like to remove the drive, but not replace it. How does one terminate the internal end of the SCSI bus. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:33:16 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5eoa9c$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> <330D60B7.6C53@soback.kornet.nm.kr> younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> wrote: > Yes, NEXTSTEP 3.3 work on 030 cube, but very slow. > Probably, OPENSTEP will work too. Although I've never tried it, I would characterize OS on an 030 Cube to be unusable for any real work judging by the comparison of the performance of OS and NS 3.3 on an 040 Cube. There's little reason to upgrade to OS if you're not developing OS apps. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adaptec questions Date: 22 Feb 1997 19:31:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5enhj8$19an@fidoii.cc.lehigh.edu> Hi all! Are there any models of PCI-bus Adaptec controllers that will definitely NOT work on NS? Cheers! Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu ? In particular, I'm wondering about the compatibility of that STB ViRGE/VX 4MB video card. Cheers! Alex Levine ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem for TTYDSP Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:13:00 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> Hi, I purchased a TTYDSP package only to find that TTYDPS is really, just a cable which plugs into the DSP port at one end and into an ISDN modem at the other. Can anyone recommend a modem to use with it? Can ISDN modems plug into regular phone lines and run at slower speeds? Thanks, Emmett
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: 22 Feb 1997 20:09:59 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> Hi, I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can be set up to run with two processors. Is this done by seting two chips into the mother board? Can this be done on a 040/25mhz board? Thanks, Emmett
From: "Luis F" <lforest@prtc.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 23 Feb 1997 02:00:56 GMT Organization: Puerto Rico Telephone Company Message-ID: <01bc204b$be027780$LocalHost@citymart> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5dvv31$fu0$1@carrera.intergate.bc.ca> <33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com> <01bc1ea2$5c345500$50bd6bcc@chapio.wolfe.net> <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com> Go to http:\\mmx.com\ It's a web site from Intel with plenty of information about the MMX chip (MMX used to stand for Multi-Media eXtensions. These are additional chip-level instrucciones that perform common multimedia-type instructions. Any instruction that resides directly on the CPU should be faster than program code, optimized or not.) Whether you need this chip or not depends. I believe the advantages are not worth an upgrade right now but if shopping for a new system, go for it as the price difference between it and a regular system isn't that much. Michele Chubirka <animat@erols.com> wrote in article <330ddb30.4702212@news.erols.com>... > Okay, > > Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've > started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a > programmer. > > Michele
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:16:20 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5eo28k$o6m@news2.cais.com> References: <5eghd7$jg8@composer.inav.net> <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> [excellent answer deleted] Just a minor correction to Chuck's response. Only 68040 based NeXT hardware has both styles of Ethernet jacks. The original 68030 systems had 10-Base-2 only. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help with station boot problem Date: 23 Feb 1997 00:53:32 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970223005300.TAA11748@ladder02.news.aol.com> I have a NeXTstation 8/105, ADB, NS 3.0, and there seems to be a strange thing happening occasionally when I boot the machine. The system starts booting bsd, then a line (sometimes two) appears saying: sc: scintr program error the machine then starts up as normal. This doesn't affect the performance at all, I'm just curious what's going on. TIA, Joe Gidi
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT CD / Floppy drive face plates Date: 22 Feb 1997 05:14:06 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-2102972113370001@adnline24065.adnc.com> I've set up a jig to mill the front face of a Cube for a CD or Floppy drive to eject the disc. The finished product looks as though NeXT did it themselves. Or I can do both.
From: freeman@cornell-iowa.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Colorstation and non-NeXT (Epson?)printer help Date: 23 Feb 1997 06:26:23 GMT Organization: The University of Iowa Message-ID: <5eonuf$r4o@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> I have looked at the FAQ and other resources and it is still not clear if it is possible to connect non-NeXT printers to a 040 colorstation? I am particularly interested in connecting an Espon printer to the station. If you have a non-NeXT printer connected to a color station, would you be kind enough to let me know the cable you used and the software driver (dots or JetPilot?) used. Thank you. Jim --- Dr. James H.Freeman freeman@Cornell-Iowa.edu (Nextmail OK) Department of Mathematics (Mime OK) Cornell College 319-895-4393(office) 600 First Street West 319-895-6866(home) Mount Vernon, Iowa 52314-1098
From: "jojo" <jojo@lolo.bo> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 23 Feb 1997 03:38:31 GMT Organization: Road Runner Message-ID: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the tech did not know if it worked.
From: Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTcube and non-parity SCSI devices Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 09:58:22 -0600 Organization: The crazy fellow Message-ID: <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I recently found an old external single speed NEC CDROM drive (CDR-25BJ, non-parity only) and am trying to connect it to my NeXTcube. I keep geeting the standard PARITY ERROR message that one usually gets when attaching non-parity devices to SCSI cards. The only problem is that I can't figure out how to turn parity checking off on the NeXTcube. I know the drive is only single speed, but I hate to see a perfectly good piece of hardware go to waste. Thanks, Jason Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: New NeXT user has questions (printer, upgrades, etc) Message-ID: <E60yMv.402@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 22:04:06 GMT In article <5ejfsl$bip@slip.net> emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) writes: > I have a number of questions I'm > hoping to get some answers on.... > > 1. What kind of hardware and software > do I need to connect two cubes? > A BNC cable of at least 4' length, two T-connectors and two termination resistors. The software is right there. You just have to configure (see online sysadmin manual) . > 2. I want to upgrade my RAM and > hard drive. Should I install > a new OS, then upgrade the > hardware, or visa versa? > Both ways work as well. It just depends whether you want to keep the old drive or replace. > 3. I purchased a swap drive. Would > it fit in a slot normally kept > available for a second hard drive? > On a cube, yes. A swap drive just like any other hard disk, just that the label is different (can be changed easily). Possibly it is smaller and slower... > 4. What kind of memory do I use to > upgrade my RAM? > Depends on the model. Refer to the FAQ on Peanuts or NeXTanswers. > 7. Is it possible to do a destructive > install so that after upgrading an > OS the machine behaves like it is > new? > A install is desructive a upgrade not (that's why it's called a upgrade ;-) > 8. Does an academic bundle include both > developer and user? > Yo! > 9. Can one use TTYDSP with Openstep 4.1? > What kind of modem can be used with > TTYDSP so one can use a regular phone > line? (Is this possible?) > I've never tested it but I see no reason why not. TTYDSP is providing plain serial lines over the DSP port, just more and faster as the regular ones. > 10. Can you recommend a modem (to run on > the serial port? Will I have to purchase > a special NeXT cable? Is there a cable/ > modem which I can use to put my computer > on the Web without having to have an ISDN > line? > A few years ago almost everyone used to have a ZyXEL (I still use one). I don't know what's up today. But it still holds that it depends on the usage you want to make, therefore the software you can get. You need a special cable (online manual or FAQ). And you would probably have trouble getting a ISDN terminal adapter to work as intended. Analog modems always work as usual. But a TTYDSP possibly would make a difference... > 11. Ah, I have the NS 3.3 User CD. I think I > can purchase NS 3.3 Developer for about 400$. > This includes a license, but it is very unlikely > I'll ever want to develop and sell some software. > My goal is to put my own machine on the Web. > My roommate is a full time student. Am I better > off getting 3.3, or OpenStep? > OPENSTEP/Mach is only for professional developers, IMHO. > > 12. Is it possible to put 3.3 or OpenStep on a > machine with an 030 chip? > It will creep, but besides from that everything will be ok. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How does one terminate the internal end of a Cube SCSI bus? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 08:56:21 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002302970856210001@news.tiac.net> References: <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5eo9rg$ftq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) wrote: > The old original Maxtor 330 Winchester has failed in my Cube. I'd like > to remove the drive, but not replace it. How does one terminate the internal > end of the SCSI bus. 1. Find an old-time Mac dealer and ask him for a IIfx SCSI terminator. This is a resistor pack that plugs into the ribbon cable. I think your probability of success is low. 2. Get a catalog from a real electronic component distributor and look for such an item. I have one at work but not here at home :-(. The closest Yahoo match I could find was Farnell (a Bristish firm with a US outlet). You could try http://www.farnell.co.uk/components/catalogue/index.html. Or you browse around http://www.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Electronics/Distributors /. Again, I'd be surprised if you find a terminator pack, since most computers ship with an internal drive and, as noted below, modern PCs run just fine with no internal terminator. 3. Remove old drive. Attach new external drive, properly terminated. Remove the ribbon cable and keep it for possible future use. Power up the cube. We have at least ten Macs that we have done this with, due to security rules, and they all work without internal terminators. We had a cube with no internal drive, for the same reason, and I don't think it had any internal terminator pack. But it's long since gone, and the only way you'll find out is to try. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEC VERSA 6030X laptop driver needed Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:26:24 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3310619A.BC1@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bc1ed7$4efdf780$e6f983c1@jo> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: JOACHIM MOSAKU <jo@fbtconsultancy.com> JOACHIM MOSAKU wrote: > > Driver for NEC VERSA 6030X laptop needed for OpenStep 4.1. It uses a Chips > & Technologies 65550 chipset and 2MB VRAM and 16bit colour at 1024x768. Has > anyone resolved issues associated with swapping between CD ROM and floppy > drive in the Versa bay. > > Many thanks, > > Jo Mosaku, > jo@easynet.co.uk To get video driver for Chips & Technologies 65550 chipset, Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 00:30:51 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or http://www.bifrostworks.com younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written by Korean)
From: gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu (Gian-Paolo D Musumeci) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: 23 Feb 1997 19:22:33 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> <E62G3q.K0o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <5eofun$9cv@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >> I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >> be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >> by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >> this be done on a 040/25mhz board? > I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with > two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an > Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one > for main OS use. This is not technically correct. It is possible, by removing the NeXTbus interface chip, possible to run multiple CPU boards in a single 'cube. Of course, the operating system isn't multithreaded, and it's usually done by having one board netboot from the other, but it is entirely possible. In fact, one could even write a shell script called, say, 'gcc-distrib' that would task all compiling off to the second CPU board. Or, you can set NXHost on the second CPU board to display applications onto the first CPU board's display. This is a really neat trick; you could even throw three CPU boards (there is a total limit of 4, because that's how many NeXTbus slots there are) into the system and have one "imaging board", one "compiling board" and one "front-end board," which would be a pretty neat trick. You could even share file space across all of the machines with NFS. However, this is not something you want to do casually. Your basic OS tasks won't be tasked parallel (unless you wanted to write some sort of a wrapper for your shell that checked the load avg. on each CPU, then tasked each command out to the board with the smaller load...hmmmm, maybe I should try this). GP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E62G0M.M7x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:17:08 GMT References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com>, jojo <jojo@lolo.bo> wrote: >Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the >tech did not know if it worked. > It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E62G3q.K0o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 17:19:02 GMT References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5eofun$9cv@slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Hi, > >I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >this be done on a 040/25mhz board? > I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one for main OS use. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Jan van Die" <janvdie@box.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT desktop - THANKS! Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:10:07 +0200 Organization: Uitgeverij Divo Message-ID: <janvdie-2302972210070001@douwe.box.nl> I received a lot of screendumps of the NeXT-desktop. They certainly arrived in time for my story about the Apple/NeXT. Thank you all very much! This is a great newsgroup!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E62uM6.G3M@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 22:32:30 GMT References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> <E62G3q.K0o@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5eq5dp$1fd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>, Gian-Paolo D Musumeci <gdm@kestrel.scs.uiuc.edu> wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: >> I think you've heard incorrectly. All black hardware in a way comes with >> two processors--the main CPU and the DSP. NeXTdimension boards have an >> Intel i860 on them, which is I suppose a third. However, you only have one >> for main OS use. > >This is not technically correct. It is possible, by removing the NeXTbus >interface chip, possible to run multiple CPU boards in a single 'cube. Of >course, the operating system isn't multithreaded, and it's usually done by >having one board netboot from the other, but it is entirely possible. In >fact, one could even write a shell script called, say, 'gcc-distrib' that >would task all compiling off to the second CPU board. > I suppose. Then you basically have two machines in one case. I'm not sure I'd call that "two CPUs in one machine" but I suppose it is. :) However, it is a fun game. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu (Noah M. Daniels) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Looking for display driver for Compaq notebook Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 18:14:54 -0500 Organization: Noah's Ark Message-ID: <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> In article <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr>, ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr wrote: > Please visit http://www.deepspacetech.com/ or > http://www.bifrostworks.com Hmm.. the former has some drivers though I don't think they're the right ones. However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that didn't work either. Any ideas? Thanks, -- -- Noah M. Daniels ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/~ndaniel1/ "He was a brave man who first ate an oyster" - Jonathan Swift "Wonder is the feeling of a philosopher, and philosophy begins in wonder" - Socrates
From: tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.mac.portables Subject: What notebook will you recommend? Date: 21 Feb 1997 12:12:00 GMT Organization: Center for Human-Machine Systems Research - Georgia Tech Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ek3eg$mnt@smash.gatech.edu> I am about to buy a notebook computer. Having only used the cubes from the beginning (of NeXT), and continuing to use them along with NEXTSTEP on Sparcs, I am not too knowledgeable about Intel. I have been seriously looking into the Toshiba Tecra 730, from Bifrost Works, since I can buy it with openstep pre-installed. I have been corresponding with Jason and I really like his responsiveness and helpful attitude. There are a couple of problems. First I will have to get a special dispensation from the state to buy computers that are either not on the approved list or from vendors who are not approved. This could be a major hurdle. I know Gateway is on the approved list, but I don't know how difficult it would be to install openstep on a Gateway notebook. I am likely to hear objections (and possibly denial to buy) since the Toshiba is more expensive than a "comparable" (i.e., processor speed etc.) machine from Gateway or some other company. If you have recently bought a Gateway or other fast notebook (not less than 12.1 active matrix screen), I would appreciate your advice and suggestions. Openstep will be my primary operating system, with space allocated for Linux, and windoze NT. Thank you very much. govind Even the new Apple PowerBooks look attractive, and I could consider buying one instead, hoping that I will get Rhapsody as soon as it becomes available. T. Govindaraj, Georgia Tech, 765 Ferst Drive, Atlanta, GA 30332-0205. http://www.isye.gatech.edu/faculty/T_Govindaraj, +1 404 894 3873
From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Loud fan noise from a turbo station Date: 24 Feb 1997 04:55:55 GMT Organization: Petroleum and Geosystem Engineering, U of Texas at Austin, Austin TX Distribution: world Message-ID: <5er70r$abi$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> Being a Cube user where I can put the Cube underneath the table, I'm a bit annoyed with the loud noise that came from a turbo color station that I have to put on top of the table (because the monitor cable is very short :( So: - is it possible to reduce the fan sound ? replace with a quieter one ? - or, is there an extention cable so I can put the station underneath the table ? Similar to the long monitor cable for the cubes. I believe the connector is 13W2. I'm pretty sure that the loud noise came from the fan, as I did unplug the fan and the whole noise gone ;) Thanks for all pointers, Paulus -- Paulus Suryono Adisoemarta, N5SNN / YG1QN yono@parokinet.org n5snn@mail.utexas.edu paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu
From: Adam Anderson <adamanderson@technologist.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:02:13 -0800 Organization: EVOLUTION Message-ID: <331201D5.16D9@technologist.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit regan wrote: > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > the money. "A pipelined Floating-Point Unit (FPU) for supporting the 32- and 64- formats specified in IEEE standard 754, as well as an 80-bit format. It is capable of executing two floating-point instructions in a single clock, achieving over five times the floating-point performance with instruction scheduling and overlapped (pipelined) execution. The FPU is object-code compatible with the Intel486 DX and Intel 487 SX, Intel 387 DX, and Intel 387 SX math coprocessors." Quote from intel, if you believe them! http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/index.htm _____________ Adam Anderson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Success w/GS, remote printer on black? Message-ID: <ukv4tf2n4px.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 05:38:34 GMT Hi... I'm having some serious troubles. I'm trying to set up Ghostscript 4.03 as an input filter to a remote, networked printer (an HP LaserJet 5L, hooked up to an old 8086 DOS machine running a dumb LPD (i.e., I can't run a filter on that machine), which is ThinNetted to my 040 black non-turbo slab. I've tried several times to get this working directly via a serial connection, using a serial/parallel converter, with no luck (and I have other reasons for not wanting to do this as well). What I've got, basically, is a working (I think) GS 4.03 installation, and I've used NetInfoManager to set the input filter to run GS as a postscript filter. Now, I'm stuck. I know what I need to do is set up a dummy printer entry that points to the remote machine and printer, but how do I get the printer that has the if to pass its output to this dummy printer entry? I've tried running an output-filter script, but it didn't work, and I've also tried setting up the remote printing from the same printer with the if, but it ignores the if and passes the postscript directly to the remote machine, which is no good, since the 5L is a non-postscript printer. Can anyone offer any help? Thanks, Mark C. Langston -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: jba@lanminds.com (=JA3=John Anderson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cant Power off??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:51:22 GMT Organization: LanMinds, Inc. (Not Responsible for Content) Message-ID: <5era8q$fmn@lanshark.lanminds.com> Hello, I'm pretty new to NeXT (but not unix)..I've gor a Color Station (non turbo) running NS 3.3 After the upgrade to 3.3 from 2.1 whenever I ask the machine to power off, it does but immediatly powers back up again.... any ideas? thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTcube and non-parity SCSI devices References: <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <3311383e.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 24 Feb 97 06:42:06 GMT In article <330F179E.2037@4thdim.com>, Jason Patrick <jason@4thdim.com> wrote: >Hi all, > >I recently found an old external single speed NEC CDROM drive (CDR-25BJ, >non-parity only) and am trying to connect it to my NeXTcube. I keep >geeting the standard PARITY ERROR message that one usually gets when >attaching non-parity devices to SCSI cards. The only problem is that I >can't figure out how to turn parity checking off on the NeXTcube. [snip] > >Jason Patrick AFAIK the Cube does not use parity checking. Maybe you need to turn off parity checking in your drive. Of course, there is also the possibility the NEC drive is simply incompatible. The original NeXT single speed CD-ROM drive was a Sony CDU-541. david ---- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: Piazza Talker 00000000 <piazza@soc.unl.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 09:41:45 +0000 Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK Message-ID: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <E62G0M.M7x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com>, > jojo <jojo@lolo.bo> wrote: > >Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the > >tech did not know if it worked. > > > > It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and > MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. > Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with (binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris 2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. Sun would go bust if they had to re-write their huge software collection if it wasn't like that. But, maybe you are referring to UltraSPARC optimizations. UltraSPARC has, for example, OpenGL optimizations (and thus has been said to be the fastest (!) non-accelerated 3d workstation. Even faster than indigo for example...). And even if you prove that I'm wrong (unlikely) you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the OpenStep for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending on your mood... Pele -- Virtual Piazza telnet to zodiac.unl.ac.uk 3000 Talker based on nutsOO.2 by Predrag Balorda Admin team: Predrag Balorda,Hollie Keglovitz and Massimiliano Baki For more info please e-mail: piazza@zodiac.unl.ac.uk or piazza@soc.unl.ac.uk
From: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (Dirk Schwarzhans) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:30:37 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5es8md$ct7$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <E62G0M.M7x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> Hello, On 02/24/97, Piazza Talker 00000000 wrote: >And even if you prove that I'm >wrong (unlikely) you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the >OpenStep for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending >on your mood... That ist not comparable to NEXTSTEP for MachOS on Sun-Hardware. Don't get me wrong: I think OPENSTEP for Solaris works quite well and SUN did a great job especially if you compare it to the buggy 4.0 Version for Mach. But it is a difference if you only have Mail, Edit, Terminal, Preview and Workspace (on Solaris OPENSTEP) or almost every programm that was compiled during the last two years (on OPENSTEP for MachOS on Sparc Hardware). Dirk Schwarzhans -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Dirk Schwarzhans Email: dirk@kalium.physik.TU-Berlin.DE (MIME and NeXTMail welcome) WWW: http://pl.physik.TU-Berlin.DE/DZ/Dirk/ ------------------------------------------------------------------
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware choices Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:20:16 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5es830$3hs@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> Sorry to bother you all with yet another "what hardware should I buy" post, but I don't know where to go to find this information other than NeXTAnswers. I simply don't know enough about Intel stuff to make good choices. My situation is that I'm in the process of buying a Gateway PPro200. I'm getting a SCSI-based system, so that's good. :) My specific questions are: 1) has anybody gotten a system with an internal Zip drive? If so, does it work well with NS. 2) Video..... I'm probably going to do a Matrox Millenium w/4M. It seems to me that there have been a couple posts about the same card running at different speeds? If I want the best one, what do I ask for/about? Monitor. I'd REALLY like to go 21" 1600x1200. Does anybody have suggestions? I'd REALLY like to do and NEC, but I don't have $2k. John Kheit suggests the following: 67Hz with max .28 dot pitch. Any suggestions for good reasonably price monitors with these specs. Thanks much! If people want to send me this in e-mail (jon@mgmt.purdue.edu) I'll be happy to synthesize it all into a reasonably sized post. Thanks again. Cheers - Jon -- Jon Haveman http://intrepid.mgmt.purdue.edu/ Asst. Prof. of Economics ,_~o jon@mgmt.purdue.edu Krannert School of Mgmt _-\_<, (765) 494-6156 (Office) Purdue University (*)/'(*) (765) 494-9658 (Fax) W. Lafayette, IN 47907-1310 (765) 742-7961 (Home)
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem for TTYDSP Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:29:50 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <33117BAE.5828@gcomm.com> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> <5eog4c$9hv@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Emmett McLean wrote: > > Hi, > > I purchased a TTYDSP package only to find that > TTYDPS is really, just a cable which plugs into > the DSP port at one end and into an ISDN modem > at the other. Can anyone recommend a modem > to use with it? > > Can ISDN modems plug into regular phone lines > and run at slower speeds? > > Thanks, > > Emmett Hi Emmett! Where did you purchased TTYDSP? Which is the cost? I am very interested in adding an ISDN modem to my black-box. TIA Amando Blasco
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 10:53:55 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8n4PaHi00iUxA21Q4R@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <E62G0M.M7x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> In-Reply-To: <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 24-Feb-97 Re: Sun Ultra 1 by Piazza Talker@soc.unl.ac >> It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and >> MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. > > Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with > (binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris > 2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. The UltraSPARC has backwards compatibility with _executables_. However, you have to specificly design your kernel to deal with the new traps, RED_state, etc developed for the SPARC v9 architecture. NEXTSTEP/SPARC will only run on the v8 architecture right now.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6450u.74K@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:14:54 GMT References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> <E62G0M.M7x@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <33116259.11C4@soc.unl.ac.uk>, Piazza Talker 00000000 <piazza@soc.unl.ac.uk> wrote: >David Evans wrote: >> >> It won't work. NeXT's operating systems will only work on SuperSPARC and >> MicroSPARC II CPUs. No HyperSPARC or UltraSPARC support. >> > >Well, that may not be correct. UltraSPARC has been manufactured with >(binary) backward-compatibility in mind. You install the same Solaris >2.5 on SPARCServer 20 as on an Netra i (UltraSPARC 1/140) for example.. >Sun would go bust if they had to re-write their huge software collection >if it wasn't like that. It may be user-code compatible, but I hear that it's not supervisor-level (or whatever it's called in SPARC-land) compatible. Solaris understands how to detect the SPARC implementation that it's running on and adapt accordingly. NeXTSTEP (and OPENSTEP/Mach) has no such logic. I can install the same Solaris CD on my SPARC 10 and my SPARC ELC, but NeXTSTEP won't run on the ELC. Plus, I've heard several reports of NS not working on Ultra hardware. >you can allways go to www.sun.com and get the OpenStep >for free..CDE aswell..then run whatever you want depending on your >mood... True. I did this and OPENSTEP/Solaris is pretty nifty. A little painful on a -10 with 32MB memory, though. And remember it's not binary-compatible with NeXTSTEP. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun Ultra 1 Date: 24 Feb 1997 17:15:43 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5esibv$mv7@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> In article <01bc213b$395e4e00$0d08d2cc@default.san.rr.com> "jojo" <jojo@lolo.bo> writes: > Anybody know whether 3.3 /4.1 will run on an Ultra 1? I called NeXT and the > tech did not know if it worked. Nope, won't work. Only Sparc 4,5,10,20 models are suppported by NS/OS. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: wli@pluto (Wei Li) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: FS: NeXTStation (ADB) Date: 24 Feb 1997 18:28:11 GMT Organization: The University of Alabama in Huntsville Message-ID: <5esmjr$39c@info.uah.edu> One mono NeXTStation in excellent condition NS 3.0 installed. 24MB RAM, 1.08GB HD (brand new Quantum). Monitor, keyboard, mouse, and the complete system documentation are included. Installed software include WordPerfect, Improve, Draw, and Mathematica. The system is an ADB system which uses the standard 72 pin SIMMs, EDO or non-EDO (in stead of the 30 pin SIMMs), and the Apple-compatible keyboard+mouse. Most software come with floppies. $590/obo + shipping. Please drop me a line at "wli@cs.uah.edu" if you are interested. Thanks. -wei, wli@cs.uah.edu
From: jalegre@andante-systems.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Null Modem cable for CUBE? Date: 24 Feb 1997 18:11:04 GMT Organization: SkyPoint Communications, Inc. Message-ID: <5esljo$spd$1@shadow.skypoint.net> I am trying to hook a Apple Personel LaserWriter to a 040 Cube with no luck. OpenStep 4.1 comes with the proper driver but I think the problem is in the cable. I have a "NULL modem" cable for Apple LW printers (8+ years old) but checking the pinouts against the pinouts in the SysAdm manual that came with 4.1 they are not the same. Short of making one does anyone know anyplace that sells NeXT Null modem cables that are the same as the pinout spec in the SysAdm manual? Thanks -- John N. Alegre Andante Systems ############################################################### # NeXTMail preferred. | # jalegre@andante-systems.com | If you plant ice, # alegrej@andante.mn.org | you're gonna harvest wind! # jalegre@lenti.med.umn.edu | Hunter/Garcia ############################################################### # URL http://www.andante-systems.com ###############################################################
From: Arthur Schwarz <schwarza@gdls.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1997 13:37:25 -0500 Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems Message-ID: <3311DFE5.1A8A@gdls.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> <33061241.1E06@bsc.net> <331201D5.16D9@technologist.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adam/regan; Just a little note. In reading the Intel blurbs on MMX, the ACM Communications (Jan. 97, V40N1), or the Intel MMX Architecture Description (somewhere in http://www.intel.com/ - land), there is explicit mention of the architectural foundation and rationale behind MMX. This includes specific and particular mention concerning the decision to use the Pentium Floating Point Functional Units and the impact of such use on competing Floating Point uses. Your statement concerning the lack of 'any' mention of conflict is unsupportable. From the cited ACM Communications, pg. 16: "We also had to ensure coexistence of existing applications and new applications using MMX technology. ... The main technicque for main- taining full compatibility of MMX technology was "hiding" it inside the existing floating-point state and registers ... . Again, I would anticipate that since dual use (MMX and Floating Point operations) are not allowed for a Floating Point Functional Unit, I would agree with the notion that there will be some slowing. Further, A recent article (Electronic Engineering Times?) states that initial implementation of the MMX instruction set can take a considerable amount of time (50 clock cycles?) to execute, so the denial of use can be substantial, although Intel has stated, and I concur, that 'clever' instruction reordering can reduce this latency. Intel has stated that future chip implementations will be substantially faster in executing MMX instructions (10 clock cycles?). One conclusion for prospective buyers is to delay purchase of the first MMX chip set and wait for the second introduction. art schwarz Adam Anderson wrote: > > regan wrote: > > > > The one thing that no one has mentioned (or known about) is that > > one drawback of the MMX is that the MMX function of the CPU cannot be > > used at the same time of the floating point unit. So any of your > > games or other programes that use the MMX and uses the floating point > > unit will be slowed down, because the two are constantly switching > > back and forth between one another. Although the Pentium Pro can get > > around this problem because it's so fast at switching back and forth > > that there isn't a slow down. Just a little unknown piece of information > > about the chip that is being kept silent by Intel. So I wouldn't spend > > the money. > > "A pipelined Floating-Point Unit (FPU) for supporting the 32- and 64- > formats specified in IEEE standard 754, as well as an 80-bit format. It > is capable of executing two floating-point instructions in a single > clock, achieving over five times the floating-point performance with > instruction scheduling and overlapped (pipelined) execution. The FPU is > object-code compatible with the Intel486 DX and Intel 487 SX, Intel 387 > DX, and Intel 387 SX math coprocessors." > Quote from intel, if you believe them! > http://developer.intel.com/design/mmx/index.htm > > _____________ > Adam Anderson
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Problems(?) with external SCSI Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:10:04 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5et03c$mh3@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eig44$hca@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >I have been using an internal Sony SCSI CDROM on my Intel machine with >NS3.3 for some time without any problems. I put it into an external SCSI >case so that I could connect it to my TurboColor NeXTstation. This works >fine with the NeXT or Lighthouse CD, but when I put a music CD in, I get > >sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 4 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 8 (no valid label) > sd2 (6,0): ERROR op:0x28 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 > sd2 (6,0): sense key:0x8 additional sense code:0x64 > SCSI Block in error = 12 (no valid label) > DISK UNFORMATTED > Disk is Write Protected > probing for DOS >probing for CDROM >probing for mac >probing for cdaudio >Feb 20 16:06:13 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio > >in the console, after which there is no problem. I've checked and >rechecked temination and SCSI ID as well as I could given the the case's >inadequate docs. > >So what's wrong? Since it actually works, should I care? I just don't >want to damage the on-board SCSI controller or risk data on the HD. > This is quite normal, but like you, it scares the bejeezus out of me when I first saw it. Similar errors pop up for error mesages like "Device not ready: RETRY 1" or somesuch. Now THESE are problems. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 24 Feb 1997 20:09:16 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5esshc$4m3@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> References: <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> In article <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 21-Feb-97 Re: HELP: >Network NeXT to a.. by Jeff Trestrail@ix.netcom > >While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do >is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... > Can someone tell me what ip numbers I should use in a case like this a NeXt with a network connection at the BNC connector a PC with a network connection at the BNC connector going to the NeXt and a modem going to my ISP. I have a static ip for the ISP so I know that number, on the network cards what numbers should I use? I don't necessarily have to be able to route packets from the NeXt through the PC to the ISP, just need to be able to transfer files between the PC and the NeXt. Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Department, University of Florida ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 13:58:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5esvcr$l69@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >In article <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr>, >Eric Levenez <levenez@club-internet.fr> wrote: >>eighth@crl.com (Christoph Steiner) wrote: >>>There are two hardware add-ons that I am aware of, a 32k memory module >> >>There is also a ISDN adapter from Hayes. >> >Oh yeah, I forgot about th emouch raved about voicemail/telephony package >from ilink called mix. As far as I can tell it is a programmable voice >mail system running on the DSP. Yes, I have one of those :) Also, there is the Daydream, from QUIX, the "Mac Emulator". The box with the Mac ROMs plugs into the DSP, and there was a Powerglove interface project in the early 1990's (I built one of those as well). -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 24 Feb 1997 14:03:03 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> <E5tG8x.8wn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, >Integrated Wellness Systems <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't have the max >>amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the cheapest way to get >>max performance. >> > > True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point where adding >more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy >with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my Dimension board). However, my life would >likely be better if I got off my butt and installed a faster disk. > That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor 5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the others. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT on Campus magazines Date: 24 Feb 1997 23:17:49 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2402971520260001@i534.oro.net> All and any issue. Tom
Newsgroups: comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware From: ericbela@total.net (Eric Bélanger) Subject: Re: Wanted BIOS upgrade. Please assist. Organization: Constellation du Verseau References: <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 97 17:03:50 GMT Message-ID: <3311c9f5.0@news.total.net> In article <01bc1a5b$284b4960$3523fbc2@paulmc>, "Paul McGuire" <paulmc@dlc.fi> wrote: >Hi. >I got a Microstar 5129 M/B and wish to upgrade the BIOS to make it >compatible with MMX chips. >Only problem is I dont know where to get the BIOS upgrade from. >Please help.Paul.... You should try http://www.msi.com.tw/
From: Robert La Ferla <Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver Date: 24 Feb 1997 22:55:01 GMT Organization: Posted via CAIS Internet <info@cais.com> Message-ID: <5et685$shu@news2.cais.com> References: <E60MKC.qM@midway.uchicago.edu> In-Reply-To: <E60MKC.qM@midway.uchicago.edu> Get the OmniPentiumPro driver from http://www.omnigroup.com. -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088
From: shan0029@gold.tc.umn.edu (Sharad J Shanbhag) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Shutdown/halt/reboot fails on NS 3.3 Intel Date: 24 Feb 1997 15:40:43 -0600 Organization: University of Minnesota Sender: shan0029@gold.tc.umn.edu Message-ID: <5et1sr$3cv@gold.tc.umn.edu> Whenever I attempt to halt my system, I get the following messages: unmounting Dos... Done unmounting Netware... Done unmounting /Net.... Done unmounting swapfile.front....Done unmounting disk2....Done Root unmount FAILED 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3It's safe to power off computer. Sometimes I get 1s instead of the 3s. Since the system doesn't go down clean, I wind up having to fsck the drive after every reboot. Normally this isn't a problem, (why ever boot into DOS ;) but I will have to use a couple of programs under WinNT and this could get kinda annoying. My config: NS 3.3 (user+dev, patched) SuperMicro PCI Mainboard, Intel P150 CPU 32 MB EDO RAM Diamond Stealth 64 2MB Intel EtherExpress Logitech Bus Mouse NCR PCI SCSI adapter 500MB Seagate ST5660N (root/boot partition) 1.2 MB Fujitsu M1606S (mounted at /disk2) Iomega Zip Drive (external) Thanks for any help. ---- Sharad J. Shanbhag phone: (612) 626-9215 Graduate Program in Neuroscience and fax: (612) 626-9201 Department of Neurosurgery shanbhag@neuro.med.umn.edu University of Minnesota (NeXT & MIME) sharad@next1.neuro.umn.edu
From: ad651@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Louis Johnson) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Followup-To: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 25 Feb 1997 01:47:51 GMT Organization: Hamilton-Wentworth FreeNet, Ontario, Canada. Message-ID: <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 Distribution: wow what a newsgroup list. anyway, basically, any CPU since way back in the old days fetches a program instruction from the program in memory, then looks thru its instruction set to find out what gates to open, signals to issue, how long to wait etc. so, with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! n.b.: RISC processors like those found in laser printers work faster because even though they have a 'Reduced Instruction Set' (Computer), well, they dont need the missing instructions anyway so the look up process happens faster. Michele Chubirka (animat@erols.com) wrote: : Okay, : Will someone explain, (for a layman) what an MMX chip is? I've : started to hear about it, but know nothing about it and I'm NOT a : programmer. : Michele : On 19 Feb 1997 20:19:25 GMT, "Jeff Chapman" <Jeff_Chapman@Wolfe.net> : wrote: : > : > : >clark001@ix.netcom.com wrote in article : ><33088c15.2024456@nntp.ix.netcom.com>... : >> On Thu, 13 Feb 1997 20:57:19 GMT, kurupt@intergate.bc.ca (Roy) wrote: : >> : >> : >> > : >> >Peter I seriously doubt that the PC dealer was lying, <snip> : > : >No, let's always assume that the salesman has our best interest at heart... : >that's their real motivation, isn't it? That's why they'll always give an : >answer (any answer) to our probing questions... right? : > -- >feel free to add your flame response in the space provided: _ |_|
From: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:09:21 GMT Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> Hi, Ah, I want to upgrade my 040 machine from 16 MB of RAM to 64 MB. It turns out that I can get 1 MB Simms for 3$ each, far less than 4 MB Simms. Is there any advantage, as far as performance is concerned to which type of memory I should use? Thanks, Emmett
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:27:14 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn5h4ilf.e1h.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> >It turns out that I can get 1 MB >Simms for 3$ each, far less than >4 MB Simms. >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? Well, see, unless you have *64* slots, you'll find it difficult to get 64 1Mb SIMMs onto the motherboard... 16 x 4Mb is the only way, since you have 16 slots (in a cube, 8 in a slab). - P.
From: "Christian Jensen" <chrsjensen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Audio driver for SB AWE32 Date: 25 Feb 1997 04:44:31 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <01bc22d6$9eafd340$dcee92cf@default> Has anyone seen or heard of an audio driver for NS 3.3 for a Creative Labs SB AWE32 card? If you have this or have seen it, drop me a line. Thanks!!
From: rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP whats been done with it ??? Date: 24 Feb 1997 21:44:08 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized! Message-ID: <5etqmo$h18@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <5eac1k$edb$1@macaw.cyberport.com> <5ei6f5$mil@crl.crl.com> <5el7qj$s3h@news.grolier.fr> <5encmv$ajd@crl10.crl.com> <5esvcr$l69@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) wrote: >interface project in the early 1990's (I built one of those as well). Ack! bad grammar strikes again... I claim no credit for building Daydream or Mix. I only wish I could. I *did* build a NeXT<->Powerglove interface and doodled around with that for a while. Sorry for any confusion... I thought I'd catch it before someone more deserving of the credit did :-\. -- Robert Worne NeXT-OS/2-MacOS 26-52-78-CV-O2-Vec-MV-TI-C64-TG16-SMS-Jag //------------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows! I'd rather starve!" //------------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? Message-ID: <E658KH.697@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 05:29:04 GMT I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. This happens regardless of whether someone is logged in or not. After a few minutes of inactivity the screen (mouse and keyboard) freezes completely. No option but to do a hard restart. As a first stab of what could be causing this, I've included the info that is gathered by the BugNeXT.app on the system: Hardware Configuration: Processor: I386 (Intel 486) Primary memory: 96.00 MB Hostname: localhost Boot Drivers Adaptec2940SCSIDriver SerialPorts Floppy PS2Keyboard PCIBus EISABus Drivers: Adaptec2940 System Serial at IRQ 4 3; ports 0x3f8-0x3ff 0x2f8-0x2ff Floppy at IRQ 6; DMA 2; ports 0x3f2-0x3f7 PS2Keyboard at IRQ 1; ports 0x60-0x65 PCIBus EISABus at IRQ 2; ports 0x00-0x0f 0x20-0x21 0x40-0x4b 0x70-0x71 0x81-0x8F 0x92-0x92 0xc0-0xcf PS2Mouse at IRQ 12; System Parallel at IRQ 7; ports 0x378-0x37f #9 Imagine 128 Series 2 Beep Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 Omni Pentium Pro Driver Obviously I can provide more details if pertinent. Any suggestions at all would be very, very appreciated. arno
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 25 Feb 1997 05:41:23 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com> Managed to get this working--My thanks to Radical Solutions for the great web page on it! However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic SCSI?) icon. Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or information anyone could offer. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: Ryan Watkins <vamp@dimensionx.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP: Network NeXT to a Dell Pentium PC Date: 25 Feb 1997 02:07:56 -0800 Organization: Dimension X, Inc. http://www.dimensionx.com/ Message-ID: <yoprai5i4g3.fsf@shellx.best.com> References: <An3_jK_00iWQI8c6dE@andrew.cmu.edu> <5eisl1$odc@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <8n3Q=ru00iVCI22fMI@andrew.cmu.edu> <5esshc$4m3@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) writes: > >While that works, it is not recommended. Besides, if all you want to do > >is hook up two computers, it's easier to use thinnet.... > > Can someone tell me what ip numbers I should use in a case like this > a NeXt with a network connection at the BNC connector > a PC with a network connection at the BNC connector going > to the NeXt and a modem going to my ISP. I have a static ip > for the ISP so I know that number, on the network cards what > numbers should I use? > > I don't necessarily have to be able to route packets from the NeXt > through the PC to the ISP, just need to be able to transfer files > between the PC and the NeXt. "RFC 1918 requests that organizations make use of the private Internet address space for hosts that require IP connectivity within their enterprise network, but do not require external connections to the global Internet. For this purpose, the IANA has reserved the following three address blocks for private internets: 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255 (10/8 prefix) 172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255 (172.16/12 prefix) 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 (192.168/16 prefix)" (from Understanding IP Addressing: Everything You Ever Wanted To Know By Chuck Semeria) You can use IPs that are specifically allocated for private networks. I've got a couple NeXT's and a Linux machine setup this way, using the 192.168.1.* subnet for the "internal" hosts. -- Ryan L. Watkins `silver moonbeams dance in fountains below shining citadels vamp@vamp.org surrounded by silver gates ascending silver stairs www.vamp.org eureka on angelic prayer wafts in and scents the air' -satb
From: tmooney@vger.punk.net (Travis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Date: 25 Feb 1997 13:53:53 GMT Organization: I need to put my ORGANIZATION here. Message-ID: <5euqth$n5a@LosAngeles01.news.Internex.NET> References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> In article <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: >Ah, I want to upgrade my 040 machine >from 16 MB of RAM to 64 MB. >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? Well, you get more memory in fewer slots :> if you have a non-turbo cube, to get to anything above 16mb, you'll have to use 4mb simms. there's really no other way to do it. travis
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Date: 24 Feb 97 21:10:38 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb24211038@slave.one.net> References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <5e3khq$jcn@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> <E5tG8x.8wn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> In-reply-to: rworne@primenet.com's message of 24 Feb 1997 14:03:03 -0700 In article <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, rworne@primenet.com (Robert Worne) writes: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >In article <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb>, >Integrated Wellness Systems <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >>How about adding memory and a faster hard drive? If you don't >>have the max amount of ram, you'll enjoy a big boost. This is the >>cheapest way to get max performance. > >True. However, depending on what you're doing there is a point >where adding more RAM doesn't help. Unless I'm doing heavy >OmniWebbing I'm pretty happy with 32MB on my cube (36MB on my >Dimension board). However, my life would likely be better if I >got off my butt and installed a faster disk. That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor 5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the others. NeXT machines use async SCSI-I. The _max_ you could get with modern controllers would be around 3MB/s, but you don't get nearly that with NeXT's. [Hey, it's 8 year old hardware!] In practice, I've seen 1.7MB/s in artificial benchmark situations, but it's hard to get further than that. One thing that _is_ helpful about newer drives is the latency to get to a piece of data. A 8ms 5400RPM drive will probably be noticable in daily usage compared to a 13ms 3600RPM drive. After all, most accesses are short and widely seperated, so the seek+rotation time is the overriding performance concern. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: 1 MB versus 4 MB Simms for 040 Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E660H8.47t@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:31:56 GMT References: <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5ethkh$lon$1@owl.slip.net>, Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> wrote: > >It turns out that I can get 1 MB >Simms for 3$ each, far less than >4 MB Simms. > >Is there any advantage, as far as >performance is concerned to which >type of memory I should use? > No. However, you only have 16 slots. 16 * 1 = 16. 16 * 4 = 64. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E660K6.8v9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 15:33:42 GMT References: <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <19970225054101.AAA07009@ladder02.news.aol.com>, WillAdams <willadams@aol.com> wrote: > >Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm >considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or information >anyone could offer. > Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to determine which icon to display? >William Adams Man--how many William Adamses are there in the NeXT community? :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: lacsap@bait.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Plug and Play Crystal Audio CS4236 on Intel VS440FX motherboard Date: 25 Feb 1997 16:08:22 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ev2pm$1nv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> I have a pentium pro system - Intel motherboard vs440fx It has an on-board Soundblaster compatible chipset Crystal CS4236 The new EISA PnP driver detects the chipset and says it can not find a asuitable driver. My question is what do I have to do to massage the SB16PnP driver to be found by the PnP search at boot time? Anyone with experience in this area? I will post a summary (heck maybe even a FAQ:) deaf and mute, pasc
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NumberNine Imagine 128 - 2 beta driver Date: Sat, 22 Feb 1997 14:43:24 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg36297.thr-576f0072.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <E60MKC.qM@midway.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg36297.thr-576f0072.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>abosse@midway.uchicago.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >I have this driver running on a Dell PPro machine at 1280x1024 16bit, >75Hz >- but I'm a little disappointed at the speed. 32bit basically was too >slow >to be of any use and even 16bit is not very snappy. By speed I mean the >subjective impression of refresh "lag" one gets when moving windows. >Does anyone know of anything I could do in terms of tweaking the >settings >to improve this? I have exactly the same set up--same machine, same card. If you're not running the OmniGroup Pentium Pro driver, you'll always be dissatisfied with the video performance. Download the following and install it and you'll see DRAMATIC improvement in screen drawing: http://www.omnigroup.com/Software/OmniPentiumProDriver/ They were very helpful in getting this set-up on our machines and it makes an ubelieveable difference. -- ------------------------- David Herren ------------------------ Center for Educational Tech. herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Middlebury College www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ Middlebury, VT 05753 USA v: 802.443.5746 f: 802.443.2075 Boycott Micro$oft! Learn how & why at http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Room for additional processor (chip) on 040/25mhz board? Date: Sun, 23 Feb 1997 09:00:28 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg36367.thr-d96380f2.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <5eofun$9cv@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg36367.thr-d96380f2.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>emclean@slip.net,UseNet writes:</bold> >I've heard that some Motorola NeXT machines can >be set up to run with two processors. Is this done >by seting two chips into the mother board? Can >this be done on a 040/25mhz board? I don't have an answer to this, but an extension to the question. The guy I bought my cube from says that he has two motherboards in his 25MHz '040 cube (he also has an ND so I am not confusing the two). What are the advantages to this? Do they cooperate or are they essentially two entirely separate computers in the same box? Do they share the system bus? Drives? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 12:02:55 -0600 From: rberber@spin.com.mx Subject: Re: NS Audio driver for SB AWE32 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <856893454.23715@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service Christian Jensen wrote: > > Has anyone seen or heard of an audio driver for NS 3.3 for a Creative > Labs SB AWE32 card? Use the Sound Blaster 16 driver, version 3.34 is the first one that worked fine with my AWE32. The latest beta driver is at http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2142.htmld/2142.html _________________________ Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: cmohr@vnet.net (bigsky) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 25 Feb 1997 19:57:34 GMT Organization: Vnet Internet Access, Inc. - Charlotte, NC. (704) 374-0779 Message-ID: <5evg7e$21f$1@ralph.vnet.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <5dqoj2$9dg@samba.rahul.net> <5dscgh$dtl@pion.sci.kun.nl> <5 <5etgc7$4r1@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Louis Johnson (ad651@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote: : ...with MMX you now have about 30 or 40 brand new instructions : for the CPU to act on directly related to multi media : processes. a short cut. thus, MMX is faster ONLY for : MMX apps!!! dont get an MMX CPU if you arent getting : MMX apps that are written to make use of the new instructions!!! It is *dead wrong* that MMX is faster only for MMX apps, though that is where the benefits are most pronounced. The MMX pentiums are at least 10-20% faster than comparably clocked non-MMX pentiums. This is because the differences between the two is not limited to the additional MMX instructions themselves, but to architectural improvements in the CPU, specifically: the L1 internal processor cache is doubled in size to 32k in MMX chips, compared to 16k in non-MMX chips; the branch prediction unit in MMX chips is improved, being adapted from that found on the Pentium Pro; the instruction pipeline is one level deeper on MMX chips than non-MMX chips, meaning that so long as the branch prediction guesses correctly, one more step of speculative execution can proceed in advance than with regular pentiums (i.e. it can do more work in advance without having wait for instructions to be pulled in from relatively slower memory). ...there are a couple of other improvements which don't come immediately to mind, but those are the most important. So, if you are going to spout off technical advice, take the trouble to inform yourself beyond incorrect inference from incomplete, superficial information. For more in-depth info on the MMX improvements, see http://sysdoc.pair.com (great site, by someone (not me) who has clearly done their homework and put in a lot of effort, complete with references to intel's site and info of his own and from other sources and benchmark testing). -- chris mohr
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:33:09 -0600 From: rberber@spin.com.mx Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> Organization: Deja News USENET Posting Service William Adams wrote: > > However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic > SCSI?) icon. > > Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm > considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or > information anyone could offer. > Have you loaded a DOS or Mac formatted zip disk? Instead of the scsi icon you get a variation of the optical disk icon (/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/optical.tiff), which looks a lot better. Now the big problem: the "removable hard disk icon" (i.e. /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS_RHD.fs.tiff) gets used by Workspace because of the different file system, so we can't use this option. How does Workspace select a different icon for the optical? and how can we make it use a different icon for Zip disks? Sorry, I don't know the answers ... yet. --- Rene Berber rberber@spin.com.mx MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:22:42 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com> References: <E660K6.8v9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> David Evans writes > Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some > reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to > determine which icon to display? Trust me, you *really* don't want to know... -Mark -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Date: 25 Feb 1997 20:42:40 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> I have a OpenStep 4.1/Intel machine on my desk at my University. We have a T3 Network connection, so to say the least it is very fast. Unfortunately, the University has implemented a 90 minute time limit for their dialup IP service. So to get around it I am looking into establishing my own dialin service. Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube hard drive bracket? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 16:31:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg37803.thr-20325a.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg37803.thr-20325a.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> I am in the process of upgrading an '040 cube. I have removed the optical and the original Maxtor full height drive and I would like to install two third height scsi drives and one half height cd-rom internal (installing a floppy drive too would be great--they will all fit in the space). Question: Were there ever any brackets built for third height devices in a cube? Has anyone fashioned such a bracket? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: Rich Markle <rmarkle@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: EIDE/ATAPI w/ 3.2 (White) Install Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 14:10:48 -0800 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <33136368.BDC@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there any way I can use 3.2 User with a 486/DX4-120, EIDE, and ATAPI CDROM? I realize that EIDE support came with 3.3, but what I want to know is this: Can I trick the system into using the 3.3. drivers? If so how can I do it? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I know you folks are knowlegable enough to at least tell me if it's lost cause or not. Thanks in advance.
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: Tue, 25 Feb 1997 04:52:18 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corp. Message-ID: <33127002.1580@us.oracle.com> References: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit rberber@spin.com.mx wrote: > > William Adams wrote: > > > > However, on the NeXT, it pops up with a rather plain (generic > > SCSI?) icon. > > > > Has anyone put together a pair of icon tiffs for the Zip drive? I'm > > considering doing a set... I'd be obliged at any thoughts or > > information anyone could offer. > > > Have you loaded a DOS or Mac formatted zip disk? > > Instead of the scsi icon you get a variation of the optical disk icon > (/usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/WM.app/optical.tiff), which looks a lot > better. > > Now the big problem: the "removable hard disk icon" (i.e. > /usr/filesystems/DOS.fs/DOS_RHD.fs.tiff) gets used by Workspace because > of the different file system, so we can't use this option. How does > Workspace select a different icon for the optical? and how can we make it > use a different icon for Zip disks? > > Sorry, I don't know the answers ... yet. > --- > Rene Berber > rberber@spin.com.mx > MIME / NeXT Mail welcomed > > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet I use the Jaz drive and I just use the dir.tiff and opendir.tiff files placed in the root directory of the Jaz disk.
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Booting NS3.3 CD in single user mode Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:39:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5er9io$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5eges8$q63@hpax.cup.hp.com> klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) wrote: > I found out that you can't mount /tmp from a floppy when > booting from NS3.3's CD in single-user mode. NS3.2 works > fine. I'm pretty sure it's not possible, due to the fact that the image for the 3.3 CD includes a /tmp directory. If you're determined enough, you could always duplicate the CD except for the definition of /tmp... :-) --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:36:36 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5er9d4$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) wrote: > The APAPI drive makes the drive masquerade as a SCSI device, so > it does work. I've managed to get CDPlayer.app to work, sort > of, by removing OmniCD from the system (it does not yet work, > though I think Andrew knows how to get it to at least work as > well as CDPlayer.app now, so perhaps a new version will be > forthcoming). I can play audio via the headphone jack, but not > through the sound card, since the volume control in CDPlayer.app > doesn't work at all and leaves the volume at zero. According to > an engineer at NeXT I spoke with, this is a known bug in the > ATAPI driver. > > Just thought you'd want to know about the above... Hmm. Does the drive actually show up as a SCSI device, at a specific SCSI ID? If so, I wonder if mCD.app would work with it. Presumably it should (though of course it would have the same problem with the volume, if that's a but in the driver). Thanks for the info. I can't test mCD on this (as my NS/Intel machine has a SCSI CD-ROM drive), but I'd be interested in what happens if anyone else tests tries mCD with it. (note to onlookers: I'm the author of mCD.app, such as it is...) (which has not been OpenStep-ified yet, so you probably can't compile it under NS-4.x). --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 24 Feb 1997 05:54:08 GMT Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY, USA Message-ID: <5erae0$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> References: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> "Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson" <ken@acni-2.com> wrote: > I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. > Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another > machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and > then copy the files back, and reboot. The machine is the > authoritative source for NetInfo for the domain. > > Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? I wouldn't do it that way. The root partition includes like /private/dev, and those device-definitions probably won't copy well across an NFS connection... I have replaced the root hard disk on more than one NeXTstation (but never on any other NeXTSTEP platform). What I do is attach the new hard disk in some temporary setup (borrowing some external case to hold the new drive). I get it all formatted and partitioned the way I want. I then boot off the NeXTSTEP 3.3 CD-ROM, and if you answer the questions correctly you end up in a unix command shell. I then mount both the old and new hard disks (using the -n option), and then use the "ditto" command to copy the old hard disk to the new one. Luckily the ditto command doesn't even require a working /tmp, so this works well. Note that I have not yet tried this with the CD for NS-4.0 or NS-4.1 , but hopefully both of them should work the same. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer (MIME & NeXTmail capable) Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy NY USA
From: don@globalobjects.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD audio with EIDE drives? Date: 26 Feb 1997 01:46:46 GMT Organization: Global Objects Inc. Message-ID: <5f04m6$ilr$3@news.xmission.com> References: <5e91qr$qo4@news.xmission.com> <5e9ma2$4lr@usenet.rpi.edu> <5eiejr$gqq@news.xmission.com> <5er9d4$m2@usenet.rpi.edu> Garance A Drosehn <gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu> wrote: > Hmm. Does the drive actually show up as a SCSI device, at a > specific SCSI ID? If so, I wonder if mCD.app would work with > it. Presumably it should (though of course it would have the > same problem with the volume, if that's a but in the driver). Yes and no. It does get accessed as a SCSI device; in my case, the device is /dev/rsd1h. However, apparently the SCSI sense stuff doesn't work right, so you can't tell that it is a CD drive there. The way CDPlayer.app gets around this is that it gets the device from /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs/cdaudio.device, which is created when you insert an audio CD. The file is a single line, no whitespace, and just the name of the device you should open. You just blindly "trust" that it is right and then send the commands after that, I guess. I hope NeXT gets the bugs worked out of the ATAPI support; my drive is one of the ones where you can't adjust the volume of playback, so I can't play it out my PC's speakers; I have to use the headphones and the manual thumbwheel. :-( Obviously the whole setup seems a bit of a hack and is a little less clean than I'd like to see--it would be nice if the ATAPI driver went all the way in making the drives appear to be SCSI. I guess that now that there are more resources available this might be a possibility... -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com <a href="http://www.misckit.com/don.html">My home page</a>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: info a speeding up a NeXT Message-ID: <cdoutyE66vFt.I9J@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <spdwell-1402972140560001@207.158.20.87> <01bc1da3$dda0a9e0$3acdb7c7@byrnejbb> <E5tG8x.8wn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 02:40:40 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom6.netcom.com In article <5esvm7$lp5@nnrp1.news.primenet.com>, Robert Worne <rworne@primenet.com> wrote: >dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) wrote: >That's an interesting thought, I have an HP Surestore 2.1 Gig hooked up >to my Turbocolor, and get mediocre performance at best (Under 1MB/Sec). > >This is nowhere near the specs for SCSI II or the SCSI I capabilities. >Older drives such as the Fujitsu (512MB and 1.2GB) and the original Maxtor >5 1.4" fullheight monster that came in my cube all give similar performance, >although there was a slight noticeable difference between the Maxor and the >others. Futz around (that's a technical term, ya' know) with tunefs. I got a Seagate Elite 3 for my cube and decided to see if I could tune it for decent performance since it ought to be the last drive I attach to the old beast. (As a sidelight, my old Hitachi 1.2GB and seagate 1GB were awfully slow compared to the Elite 3. I get ~1.2MB/s writes with the Elite and ~600kB/s with the others.) Start with the correct disktab. I'm not convinced that "disk" et al. create a terribly good layout. Since the Seagate is a 2+GB drive I had to write my own disktab. I then wrote a short script looping through various tunefs parameters and testing with iozone. I wish I had a good random access test program, since iozone is all sequential access. Oh well. I found that setting rotdelay correctly was significant. Testing maxbpg may be useful on drives/partitions used for a few large files, like a swap drive. I wish I understood FFS a little better. Many thanks to Scott Hess for posting his drive tuning experiences a few months ago. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E66zIx.Byz@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 04:08:57 GMT References: <E660K6.8v9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5evhmi$7pf@news.next.com>, Mark Bessey <mark_bessey@next.com> wrote: >David Evans writes >> Well, Workspace has icons for removable SCSI disks. However, for some >> reason, it doesn't use them. Anyone know what heuristics are used to >> determine which icon to display? > >Trust me, you *really* don't want to know... > Come on, Mark, we do, we do! -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 26 Feb 1997 08:15:15 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970226081501.DAA14968@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <856902251.29095@dejanews.com> Yes, I have loaded a Mac Zip disk--one which was damaged to begin with (had to repair it in my wife's Mac....) so no joy there. Haven't bothered to try a PC disk (except to reformat it :/) since I'm running NS 3.1 without a (needed?) patch for larger FAT file systems. Actually, there are really cool floppy disk icons in /usr/filesystems? for DOS, Mac and NeXT? floppies, but these don't seem to be used consistently on my system. However, I acquired this second-hand with 2.1 and some custom configuration on it (Wile E. Coyote logintiff for example), so it may be some such weirdness as this. I don't remember seeing anything on this in the FAQ, but then again, I haven't found the time/courage to successfully work with the logintiff to get that set straight (the Coyote tiff didn't come over when I switched system disks, so now I just have a flat white login panel :( ) I'd be very glad of any information on how disk icons are handled--it may only get filed until I've got a full system backup and the time to experiment, but I would appreciate it. BTW - I was a bit cavalier in mentioning the above web page--the title was: Radical System Solutions: Hitchhiker's Guide To The Iomega ZIP, and here's the URL for their home page: http://www.radical.com/index.html. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard Date: 26 Feb 1997 06:07:16 GMT Organization: Lib Informática Ltda. Message-ID: <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0ZXIgbWFya2V0IGlzIGEgbGFyZ2UgbWFya2V0IHdoZXJlIGFs bW9zdCBhbGwgcHJvZHVjdHMgY2FuIGJlIHNvbGQhICAgRm9yIG1hbnkgeWVhcnMsIGZvcmVpZ24g Y29tcGFuaWVzIGluIEJyYXppbCBjb3VsZCBub3Qgc2VsbCB0aGVpciBwcm9kdWN0cyBhbmQgc2Vy dmljZXMgd2hlcmUgYSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcGFueSB3b3Jrcy4gICBUaGlzIGJyb3VnaHQgcmFw aWQgZGV2ZWxvcG1lbnQgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBzdGFnbmF0aW9uIGFmdGVyd2FyZHMhICAgV29yc3Qs IGEgaGlnaGVyIHByaWNlISEhICAgTm93LCB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIGNvbXB1dGVyIG1hcmtldCBp cyBvcGVuIHRvIGFsbCBmb3JlaWduIGluZHVzdHJ5LiAgIEFuZCBwcmljZSBpcyBub3QgYSBwcm9i bGVtLi4uDQoNCglTbywgd2h5IGRvZXNuJ3QgeW91ciBjb21wYW55IHRyeT8NCg0KCVdlIHJlcHJl c2VudCBzZXJ2aWNlcywgc29mdHdhcmUsIGFuZCBoYXJkd2FyZSBmcm9tIGZvcmVpZ24gY29tcGFu aWVzIGRvaW5nIGJ1c2luZXNzIGluIEJyYXppbC4gICBXZSBhcmUgbG9va2luZyBmb3IgcGFydG5l cnMgd2hvIGludGVuZCB0byBlbnRlciB0aGUgQnJhemlsaWFuIG1hcmtldCB3aXRoIHRoZWlyIHBy b2R1Y3RzL3NlcnZpY2VzLg0KDQoJQW55d2F5LCBpZiB0aGlzIHByb3Bvc2FsIGludGVyZXN0cyB5 b3UsIHBsZWFzZSBlLW1haWwgbWUgLSBMaWIuSW5mb0BlbXByZXNhLmNvbS5iciAtIHdpdGggYW4g b3V0bGluZSBvZiB5b3VyIHByb2R1Y3RzIGFuZC9vciBzZXJ2aWNlcyB0byBsZXQgdXMgZXZhbHVh dGUgaWYgdGhleSBjb3VsZCBiZSBzb2xkIGRvd24gaGVyZSBpbiBCcmF6aWwuDQoNCg0KCVRoYW5r IHlvdSBmb3IgeW91ciBhdHRlbnRpb24uDQoNClAuUy46IEkgZG8gbWFuYWdlIGEgMSwwMDAgbWVt YmVyIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCBvbiBXaW5kb3dzICc5NSBzb2Z0d2FyZSB3aGVyZSBJIHdyaXRlIGFi b3V0IHRoZSBuZXcgcHJvZHVjdHMgYW5kIHJlbGVhc2VzLg0KDQoNCg0KQ2FybG9zIEJvcmdhcnRo DQpMaWIgSW5mb3Jt4XRpY2EgTHRkYS4NClJpbyBkZSBKYW5laXJvICAtICBCcmFzaWw=
From: "Á¤ÁøÇõ" <salbang@gong.snu.ac.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does OPENSTEP 4.1 support Think Pad 560? Date: 26 Feb 1997 09:27:38 GMT Organization: ¼¿ï´ë ÄÄÇ»ÅÍ°øÇаú Message-ID: <01bc23c7$6be58800$3fc07ea8@gong.snu.ac.kr> NS 3.3 supported TP 560. So I thought OS 4.1 would support it, and I seeked display driver. But I couldn't find it. Does OS 4.1 support TP 560 and TP 760ED? Thanks. Jinhyeok Jeong. salbang@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://gong.snu.ac.kr/~salbang
From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install help needed... Date: 26 Feb 1997 14:38:52 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <5f1hts$mas@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> I am trying to install Openstep for Mach 4.0 on a Pentium 166 with ASUS motherboard, Adaptec 2940 UW, a Quantum 2.1G hard drive and a Goldstar 8X EIDE CDROM. I have installed Nextstep on Intel before but that was an all SCSI set up. My problem is how do I install from the EIDE CDROM. I searched NextAnswers but I am still stumped. During the boot process, I am asked for the SCSI conrtoller to which the CDROM is attached. I expected to see EIDE/ATAPI as an option using the two driver disks that came with OS 4.0 but apparently that is not the case. Do I have to download some boot floppyimage from NextAnswers? I understand that the ATAPI driver makes the CDROM appear like a SCSI drive, but what device driver do I use? Thank you very much for this urgently needed help. Jagannatha -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: bifrostworks link doesn't work... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:57:33 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33145CF4.58C9@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <ndaniel1-1702971324350001@p9.ts15.metro.ma.tiac.com> <331062A4.2A19@soback.kornet.nm.kr> <ndaniel1-2302971814540001@p0.ts24.metro.ma.tiac.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Noah M. Daniels" <ndaniel1@swarthmore.edu> Noah M. Daniels wrote: >However, the bifrostworks link doesn't work... the domain does not > exist. I also tried bitfrostworks.com, in case you made a typo, but that > didn't work either. Any ideas? http://www.bifrostworks.com/ Now, They work. Please vist their web-site. younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: "B. Alexander King III" <aking@uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't format optical disk Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 09:44:09 -0600 Organization: Department of Physics, University of Illinois, Chicago Message-ID: <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: aking@uic.edu I have a NeXT cube with a 25MHz 68040 running NeXTStep 3.0. I also have two blank 256Mb optical disks. Unfortunately, I am unable to initialize them from the Workspace Manager's Disk menu. The optical drive won't even recognize them (it just spits them back out). What could be wrong? Thanks in advance. bak
From: "Samuel " <kwaisamu@asiaonline.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Questions about Libretto Date: 26 Feb 1997 16:20:40 GMT Organization: ¤½¥q¦WºÙ¥¼ª Message-ID: <01bc2400$d1bc26a0$890d55ca@kwaisamu.asiaonline.net> I am now considering to buy a mini notebook Toshiba Libretto 20/30/50 but still have some questions: Can Toshiba Libretto be ungraded? How? I just want to use it as a typing machine......which model /config should I buy? Is there any problems in replaceing JWin95 with EWin95? Looking for the reply! Thanks! Samuel
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyQuest's SyJet1.5GB and NEXTSTEP Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:49:07 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <33145AFC.2279@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I interesting SyQuest's SyJet1.5GB. http://www.syquest.com/syquest/syjetmain.htm The SyJet1.5GB has more fast and capability than iomega's Jaz. But I don' know about safety and confidence of SyJet1.5GB. Also I have not heard anyone who is uing it on NEXTSTEP. Has anyone know test result of SyJet1.5GB on NEXTSTEP? Thanks, younghoon KIL ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP, OPENSTEP Q&A & Info Board written in Korean)
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cube internal floppy connector? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 12:08:14 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg38190.thr-2050e6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg38190.thr-2050e6.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> The '040 cube motherboard has three ribbon cable connectors. One is scsi (the largest), another is for the optical (the smallest). Is the intermediate sized one the internal connector for a floppy drive or is the floppy drive a scsi device? I've seen references to external Next floppy drives. Also, is the internal scsi bus SCSI-2? Thanks. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:38:15 -0500 Subject: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Cc: omniweb-l@omnigroup.com Greetings all! I have come to ask your advice, bascically because I keep arguing both sides of the issue and can't figure out which way to go. Here's the situation: I've got a mono non-turbo slab that can handle no more than 32ram. I'd really like to be able to see color. I spend 75% of my time on the machine surfing the 'net (right now with imaging turned off due to my low ram giving the processor and the fact that I can't see color). The other 25% is writing papers. PROBLEMS WITH MY CURRENT SETUP: maxed out RAM slow processor no color serial port at 38400 (57600 only if I am daring) ADVANTAGES: I know the system, it behaves very well, and I can afford it So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than 57600? I don't even know what controls that). PROBLEMS WITH GETTING AN INTEL: don't have the $$ don't have the know-how don't know how to put together a system that will work as well as my beloved NeXT ADVANTAGES: long-term solution can play those cool DOS/Win games (this may also be a drawback!) could get better serial port speed (???is this true???) I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING A NEW NeXT don't have the $$ (are we noticing a trend? ;-) would the 33MHz really be that much better than the 25MHz I have now considering it also has to render color? would loading the machine chock-full of RAM balance out the increased processor load for color/make graphics rendering (OmniWeb) better? I'm not sure what RAM would do and what it would be held back by the processor speed more money into a wonderful, but outdated, machine ADVANTAGES: more RAM is always better (I could get 300% more RAM) all my apps, etc would run on it don't have to deal with putting together some Frankenstein computer CFO: Is is better to put a smaller amount of money into a shorter-time solution or a larger amount of money into a long-term solution that will bring on a great deal of headaches? THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 years). Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) For clarification: I would be running NS 3.3 on whatever I bought if I buy anything. Any thoughts appreciated. Respond via email if you'd prefer. Thanks TjL
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 97 23:11:10 -0500 Subject: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Greetings all! Having just come from http://www.benatong.com/powerguardianinfo.html I have been checking out the supported "Smart" UPS systems for the PowerGuardian software. There are 3 companies which are hotlinked to that page: APC, TrippLite, and Best. APC's supported model I found for $245 in Computer Shopper. TrippLite has a supported model for $179. The supported models for "Best" are $500+, so they are officially out of contention. I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's "Smart-UPS Net 450" (not the Smart-UPS v/s) or TrippLite's "OMNISMART 280". (Or any experience with either company's UPS). I'm a UPS-newbie, so I don't know much about what to look for. Right now all I know is that one is a lot cheaper than the other, but I know the APC has user-replaceable batteries, while I don't know that about TrippLite one way or the other. Any info welcome. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) Use `luomat@peak.org' for any email-contact
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't format optical disk Date: 26 Feb 1997 18:20:30 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5f1ute$p3f@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> In article <33145A49.4113@uic.edu> "B. Alexander King III" <aking@uic.edu> writes: > I have a NeXT cube with a 25MHz 68040 running NeXTStep 3.0. I also have > two blank 256Mb optical disks. Unfortunately, I am unable to initialize > them from the Workspace Manager's Disk menu. The optical drive won't > even recognize them (it just spits them back out). What could be > wrong? Thanks in advance. > bak This seems to inevitably happen to OD drives. I've found two culprits: First, the drive's laser pickup lens could be covered in dust. This is fairly easy to clean with an discontinued optional kit from NeXT that I've never managed to find. You can also open the drive and clean it with a cotton swab, but the procedure is a bit complicated (see below). The other culprit I've found is that the drive's calibration seems to vary with temperature. I've had the same failures as you've described when I first insert a "cold" disk, but once it has been in drive for 30 minutes or so, it works fine. You can't use the Workspace Manager to insert the drive, because it spits it out. You need to mount it by hand (from a shell, probably as root). This bypasses the Workspace Manager's "automounting" program. mount /dev/od0a /MyDisk A panel will then pop up asking you to insert the disk. Insert it. If it is uninitialized, the mount may fail, but it shouldn't spit it out. To unmount it after 30 minutes or so, do umount /dev/od0a This will NOT spit it out. To spit it out, unmount it first, and then do: /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rod0a At this point you can reinsert it and the Workspace Manager will grab it. Make sure you don't mix the two methods of dealing with removable disk (e.g. don't 'umount' a disk that the WM has automounted or you'll get it confused. Here's the OD cleaning instructions: ------------------------------ If you're not queasy with hardware, you could try to clean your OD. This cured all my problems with it. The laser focussing lens gets covered in dust and eventually has trouble reading the OD. I understand that there was an OD drive cleaning kit from NeXT, but I don't have it, so here's how I cleaned my drive: 0. Use static electricity precautions: Make sure you, the drive and your workspace are grounded. 1. Remove the OD from the drive bay. 2. Open the top of the drive (with the labels on it) by removing the 4 screws on top. The top should flip back on a "hinge" made of two screws. 3. At the back near the "hinge" on the left are two thin ribbon cables that plug into white connectors, a long one and a short one. You need to disconnect this so you can remove the bottom of the drive (where the laser assembly is). These are disconnected by loosening the white connector shells a few millimeters (don't remove the white shell entirely; it'll break). Once they are loosened a bit, the ribbon cables will simply slide out of the white shells. The best way to loosen them is from the back (you'll need to remove the two "hinge" screws on the side to get access to the back of the white connectors). Use a small screwdriver to pry the white shell off slightly. It should move fairly easily and it should be obvious when to stop (there are little "hooks" to prevent the white shell from coming all the way off). Once the shell is loosened, just pull out the ribbon cables. 4. Close the top and turn the drive over and remove the 4 screws on the bottom (there may also be 2 screws at the front holding the cover on if you have a newer model). 5. Lift the bottom cover gently from the front of the drive a half inch or so. Inside, there are two beige connectors by the left side near the front; one with 3 wires connected to the main chassis part of the drive, and one with several wires connected to the bottom of the drive. Disconnect both these connectors by pulling and slightly wiggling them back and forth laterally (in the same plane as the row of wires). 6. The bottom cover should come free now. Gently lift it off and turn it over. 7. The laser lens should be obvious: it's the round bit of glass lens. Dusty, huh? 8. Clean the lens GENTLY with a non-abrasive lens cloth (I just used a Q-Tip). Don't use a solvent or any kind of liquid. 9. Reverse the above process to reassemble the drive. Things to be careful of: There is a black wire running along the back-right of the bottom cover that may need to be coaxed into the chassis before the bottom cover will seat nicely down. And make sure you insert the ribbon cables all the way into the white shell before pushing it closed (that takes a bit of coaxing too). Disclaimer: I don't guarantee that this will work and I'm in no way responsible for any consequences of following these instructions. All I claim is that the above procedure fixed *my* drive. You're mileage may vary. :-) -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...any ideas? Date: 26 Feb 1997 10:18:31 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5f1upn$eb@mpaque.mpaque> References: <E658KH.697@midway.uchicago.edu> In article <E658KH.697@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) writes: > I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting > freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. [munch] > Beep > Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 > 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 Try removing either Beep or the Sound Blaster driver. You should only have one of these installed at a time. > Omni Pentium Pro Driver This can give problems with some motherboards and peripheral combinations. While the speedup is great, please bear in mind that not all PC motherboard and peripheral vendors design or test for the 'pedal to the metal' performance case. That is, the driver enables PCI transfers that some hardware would prefer you didn't use :-). Good luck. PC hardware can be problematic at best. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip drive with NeXT - Icon? Date: 26 Feb 1997 19:06:43 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970226190601.OAA28540@ladder02.news.aol.com> References: <33127002.1580@us.oracle.com> Yes, I'm planning on placing the tiffs in the root directory so that they'll display--I was just checking to see if anyone had done this yet. Have you made custom ones for your Jaz drive? I've started on my set for the Zip drive, and once they're done, will make them available. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does anyone have... Date: 25 Feb 1997 21:25:43 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Message-ID: <5evlcn$cib@medusa.is.com> I'm looking for the old post which had hardware comparisons by compiling BackSpace. If someone could forward it to me I would appreciate it. I want to see how my new SCSI subsystem affects my numbers. I just got a DPT PM3334UW with a 32MB cache and 2 Segate ST32171W's which I have RAID-0ed together - which works very nicely with OPENSTEP for Mach 4.1 DrivePerformance.app scores on first run are just over 4MB/second for both read and write. Mike Barthelemy msb@plexare.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can OpenStep be configured to serve PPP? Message-ID: <1997Feb26.104636.26294@roper.uwyo.edu> From: nor@panoramix.uwyo.edu (norbert pirzkal) Date: 26 Feb 97 10:46:36 MST References: <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> Distribution: world Cc: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu In <5evis0$j15@news.acns.nwu.edu> dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu wrote: > Can anyone tell me if I can configure OpenStep to act as a PPP or Slip server for dialup? > What tools/packages would I need? Is there any documentation on this? > The PPP package that ships with Openstep 4.1 works just fine... -- Norbert Pirzkal http://faraday.uwyo.edu/grads/npirzkal P.O. Box 3905 Physics & Astronomy Department University Station Laramie, WY, 82071
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: demo <demo@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: "freezing" Dell OptiplexGXPro w/NS 3.3...solved. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3314B61B.6419@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <E658KH.697@midway.uchicago.edu> <5f1upn$eb@mpaque.mpaque> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 22:16:09 GMT Mike Paquette wrote: > > In article <E658KH.697@midway.uchicago.edu> abosse@midway.uchicago.edu > (arno bosse) writes: > > I'm hoping someone can help me with my problem..I'm consistently getting > > freezes on a PPro machine running NS 3.3 + user patch. > [munch] > > Beep > > Sound Blaster 16 at IRQ 5; DMA 1 5; ports 0x0220-0x0233 > > 0x330-0x331 0x388-0x389 > > Try removing either Beep or the Sound Blaster driver. You should only have > one of these installed at a time. Thanks Mike. This did the trick. With the SB 3.32 driver removed (the 3.34 beta didn't produce any sound at all) I can now get a NX factor of 5.4 with 32 bit colour @ 1152x768. Excellent. At present using only the Beep driver works well. Next I'll try only using the SoundBlaster driver. Now, if only I could find a driver for the PCI 3COM Etherlink III...I guess it will be released eventually, since this is the standard option for high-end Dells. Arno Bosse Univ. of Chicago
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXTWorld Expo Video Date: 26 Feb 1997 23:20:27 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2602971523400001@i528.oro.net> From what I have heard, there is a video tape out there about the 1st NeXTWorld Expo with Steve Jobs presenting the NeXT product. Anyone have one for sale. Tom
From: mack <mack@xray.duke.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Experiences with APC or Tripplite UPS ??? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 15:59:45 -0500 Organization: MacroMolecular Structure Group, B127 LSRC, Duke University Message-ID: <3314A441.41C6@xray.duke.edu> References: <199702260411.XAA04646@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I am wondering if anyone out there has experience with APC's I was in the position of buying a whole lot of UPS's a while ago. Since I didn't want to send them back to the factory when they failed after their warantee period, I asked APC if I could get a service manual for the machine. They told me that they wouldn't sell me one as they didn't want our service technician (who has 30yrs of experience) to get a (electric) shock on opening up the cover. I decided not to buy anything from APC. Joe -- Joseph Mack mailto:mack@xray.duke.edu (919)-613-8890 SysAdmin Xray Lab FAX-(919)-684-8885 MacroMolecular Structure Group, Duke University, Durham NC, 27710
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:07:20 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <Mn5_M8K00iWn0=9YQ0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> In-Reply-To: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 26-Feb-97 A better NeXTStation or an .. by Timothy J Luoma@peak.org > CFO: Is is better to put a smaller amount of money into a > shorter-time solution or a larger amount of money into a > long-term solution that will bring on a great deal of > headaches? > > THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new > computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you > buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 > years). Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it > would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out > and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time > Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) A third alternative would be to wait for a year or so until (a) Rhapsody is available on Mac PPC hardware, and (b) until Mac PPC hardware is shipping with 500+ MHz Exponential CPU's. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: "Jeffrey S. Dutky" <dutky@wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 16:29:40 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland Student Body Message-ID: <3314AB03.23FB@wam.umd.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > The color-turbo is a steal at $750 if the price includes the 21" color monitor. If you wanted to get a modern machine (Mac or Intel) with a 21" color monitor you would have to pay at least $1000 JUST FOR THE MONITOR. If you can scrape together the $750 needed to buy the color-turbo it should be able to keep you happy until you graduate. Further, you might be able to use the color monitor on whatever system you buy afterwards, provided that you get a sophisticated enough display adapter and can find an apropriate cable. for the simple price comparison: A low end intel box can be had from hole-in-the-wall places for about $600 with a crappy little monitor. Alegedly 21" monitors can be had for as little as $900 if you don't mind what brand you get. All told you will spend twice as much on an intel box before you even get software (have you seen what the cost of NS4.1 is?). The only REAL advantages to the intel box are: 2x processor speedup, and larger available software base. Ballance this with the fact that you won't have your intel box up and running for a few days (this is a conservative estimate given that you don't know anything about intel hardware and software configuration) and I think the NeXTStation Color-Turbo is a good deal. -Jeff Dutky
From: ddr@hee.phys.ufl.edu (Daniel D. Roscigno) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: My black mouse has died.... Date: 27 Feb 1997 00:30:53 GMT Organization: National Center for Supercomputing Applications Message-ID: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> I have had to paint a "white" mouse black, now I need to wire the connector. I got a mini din but don't know the conversion from a DB-9 (IBM style serial) to the 8 pin din. Can anyone help? Thanks, Dan -- --------------------------------------------------------- Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 Physics Department, University of Florida ---------------------------------------------------------
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Date: 26 Feb 1997 22:17:20 GMT Control: cancel <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Message-ID: <cancel.01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> Sender: "Lib Informática Ltda." <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970226.20. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970226.20.html for complete report. Original Subject: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard
From: pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu (Paul R. Brown) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 01:28:22 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <slrn4j4nf2.fi8.pbrown@ashkhabad.berkeley.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> <3314AB03.23FB@wam.umd.edu> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. I made the jump from 25MHz x 20Mb to 33MHz x 128Mb. The 128Mb machine is like a 1950's era American car. You can floor it, hear the engine roar, but it just doesn't go as fast as a Hyundai with Rodney King at the wheel... But, it's solid, smooth, looks cool, and just cruises comfortably along. (It's also somewhat hard to find parts...) My machine (mono, mind you) swaps at most once or twice a day, and I've got the bad habit of leaving lots of apps open. Most casual computer users (eg., people who just use the computers for entertainment and word processing as opposed to people who are running 50Mb autocad files or compiling large programs or intensive computations) have FAR more power than they will ever need. My feeling is that many modern programmers are sloppy just because the machines are fast enough that they can get away with it. For the increase in raw power from Apple II or IBM-PC (8086) days, the actual increase in performance hasn't kept pace. When I have big computations, I refer them to the SparcServer in the basement anyway. (Half a gig of RAM and 4 sparc 20's in a big box but no style...) Paul
From: joe@decoy.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Setting Serial B to 19200/8/N/1 under NS3.3 on an '040? Date: 27 Feb 1997 01:36:43 GMT Organization: University of Oregon, Eugene Message-ID: <5f2ofb$ptc@pith.uoregon.edu> I've been working with a user who has a black '040 NeXT running 3.3. We were able to construct a suitable cable and to successfully modify the /etc/gettytab and /etc/ttys so as to connect at 9600 7-E-1, but we have so far been unable to successfully select suitable /etc/gettytab arguments for 19200 8-N-1. We're currently trying: default:\ :im=\r\n\r\nNeXT Mach (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:\ :er=\177:kl=^U:in=^C:lm=\r\n%h login\72 :ap:p8:sp#19200: D19200:ap:p8:im=\r\n\r\nNeXT (%h) (%t)\r\n\r\r\n\r:sp#19200: and ttydb "/usr/etc/getty D19200" dialup on where we'd hoped the ap ("any parity") and p8 ("pass eight bit") would do the trick. We've also experimented with zp ("zero parity"), all to no avail. Are we missing something obvious? Is this even possible? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Joe St Sauver (joe@oregon.uoregon.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: cube internal floppy connector? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E68MDo.oD9@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 01:20:12 GMT References: <msg38190.thr-2050e6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <msg38190.thr-2050e6.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >The '040 cube motherboard has three ribbon cable connectors. One is >scsi (the largest), another is for the optical (the smallest). Is the >intermediate sized one the internal connector for a floppy drive or is >the floppy drive a scsi device? I've seen references to external Next >floppy drives. > It is indeed the connector for the floppy drive. It's a weird one, though. >Also, is the internal scsi bus SCSI-2? > No, SCSI-I. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 26 Feb 97 17:54:02 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Feb26175402@howard.one.net> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> In-reply-to: Timothy J Luoma's message of Wed, 26 Feb 97 01:38:15 -0500 In article <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org>, Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than 57600? I don't even know what controls that). You can get pretty high, but with a baseline system, it's more of a NeXT driver problem than a hardware problem. The driver just doesn't want to let you fly! You can put in a card which multiplies the speed the system tells it, so you could do 57600x4, for instance. Not sure if it's worth it. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING AN INTEL: don't have the $$ don't have the know-how don't know how to put together a system that will work as well as my beloved NeXT I recently (October) put together a system with: $720 ViewSonic 17PS monitor $462 Seagate ST32155N (2G, 9ms, Ultra-SCSI) $440 * 64M EDO RAM (2x32M simms, leaving 2 slots open) $266 * Retail Matrox Millenium w/4M $235 * Boxed Pentium-133 $182 * ASUS P/I-XP55T2P4 motherboard w/512k cache $110 InWin ATX minitower $ 68 ASUS SC200 NCR 810 SCSI card (Fast-10 SCSI) $ 64 Microsoft ergo keyboard $ 30 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (with the curve) $ 26 TEAC floppy The starred items have fallen in price since my purchase, memory and CPU quite significantly. These items were purchased from a combination of Computability (monitor, www.computability.com), ESC (CPU,ram,motherboard,case, www.esc-ca.com), and cantek (everything else, www.cantek.com/cantek/). All told it was something like $2700, with shipping. It's probably $200-$300 cheaper, now. All that said - this system is _clearly_ head and shoulders above my mono turbo slab. Back in 1994, I purchased a really expensive i486 machine for NeXTstep, and it sucked rocks, even after I upgraded to a 160Mhz 486. The above machine is faster than my i486 in many different ways - the CPU is faster, the CPU-memory subsystem is faster, the PCI local bus is faster than the VLB was. Overall, it feels _much_ faster than the plain CPU improvement led me to believe. Running in glorious 32-bit color at 11??x8?? it blows the doors off my mono turbo. Running in acceptable 16-bit color, it can to 1600x1200, which is amazing to see (if a bit overwhelming on a 17" monitor). It was easy to put together (ESC put all their parts together for me), and doesn't look particularily like a frankenstein inside. No particular problems getting NeXTSTEP installed on it (I used my slab to make a driver disk with the NCR and Matrox drivers on it). [Keep in mind that I spent too much time researching these parts beforehand in the interests of making sure almost everything is individually upgradable and compatible. I didn't want to spend weeks with a half-working system this time around :-).] I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If you want all the above delivered pre-assembled, check out www.tdl.com/~netex/. You'll pay a small (%10 or so) premium for this, though. If I had to do it all over again, I'd have scrounged up the money and bought a PPro system a couple months earlier than I actually bought, when RAM was cheaper and PPros were substantially cheaper. But, alas, I waffled (hey, I was moving at the time). I would consider a PPro150 at this time, but I'm not sure I'd buy it (the upgrade future is somewhat vague for the current PPro line). I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. PROBLEMS WITH GETTING A NEW NeXT don't have the $$ (are we noticing a trend? ;-) would the 33MHz really be that much better than the 25MHz I have now considering it also has to render color? IMHO, absolutely not. It's really going to depend on how much you like color. The overall system will feel slower, though it shouldn't be unreasonable. Might consider a 33Mhz mono, which still allows for the bigger memory, but doesn't pay the color tax. would loading the machine chock-full of RAM balance out the increased processor load for color/make graphics rendering (OmniWeb) better? I'm not sure what RAM would do and what it would be held back by the processor speed It would certainly improve things because you wouldn't be swapping as much. Those extra 14 bits of color can be painful in that way. THOUGHT: I read in Computer Shopper that every $1000 spent on a new computer gives you one year from obscurity (ie a computer you buy today for $2000 will be outdated in 2 years, $3000 in 3 years). That's blather. The obsolescence horizon is a curve. There's a lower bound (a $1000 computer is _already_ outdated), and after you get past about $3000, every extra year costs you more like double, rather than $1000. IMHO, the difference between a $5k system and a $3k system is something like 6-8 months, the difference between a $3k and $2k system is probably a year or so, and the difference between a $1500 and $2k system is probably a year or so. You're better off to pick a price-point and stick with it. With the above, I've staked out the $2500 price-point. I expect to pop in upgrades every 6 to 12 months, with the upgrades chosen based on whether you could build a new $2500 system using them. [Actually, I'm planning to have two systems leapfroggin each other every six months.] The important thing about going with a price-point is that it helps keep you from chasing useless extras. Keep in mind that today's $3k computer will probably only cost $2k in six months. If you make certain that your peripherals are robust in the face of upgrades (this is where places like Gateway cut the corners!), you can get away with being pretty piecemeal. Emphasis on the peripherals! Saving money on your peripherals is a short path to hell. You're better off spending money on peripherals that you can keep for awhile rather than spending it on a faster CPU. In six months it will be cheap to upgrade your motherboard and CPU to faster units, but quality disk drives and monitors will cost more or less the same as they do today. OTOH, if you plan to purchase the system and ride it into the ground, then make sure you plan your exit strategy ahead of time. Given that I have another year in school, perhaps it would be better to get the new NeXT now and once I get out and get a job start saving for an Intel (by which time Rhapsody will be shipping version 1.0! ) In this case, you might want to wait. The big question is whether you'll be able to actually _use_ the system when you graduate. It may be that you'll be using your personal machines _drastically_ less once you graduate. Not only because you might (or might not) spend more time somewhere other than where your machine is, but also because you'll be doing many things you currently do on your machine on machines at the office. [I remember popping years of savings on a new computer the year I graduated from high school. I probably got my money's worth, but I didn't use it _nearly_ as much when I went to college. Life changes are not good times to make big purchases :-).] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 03:09:23 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Sender: -no- @pm132-28.dialip.mich.net Message-ID: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > <snip snip snip> > > So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. Problem is > I know nothing about PCs and wouldn't know where to begin putting > an NS-capable machine together. Also, if I got an Intel machine I'd > want a 17" monitor, good graphics, and improve my serial port speed > (can this be done? what speeds can I get with it higher than > 57600? I don't even know what controls that). > > <snip snip> > > I've thought about getting a color-turbo 21" for $750. That would > give me more RAM ability (128 max, I think) a faster processor, and > color. I could run the serial port at 57600 with confidence. > > > <snip> > Hello, I am in a similar situation. I am a student too, I have 25MHz NeXTstation color with similar limitation as yours (plus color rendering overhead). I am thinking about getting the 21" Color Turbo slab for $750. ADB. When Rhapsody is out, and when I am out of the school (i.e. graduation) I am getting a (head & keyboard & mouse)-less PowerMac with a video card that can handle the sync-on-green NeXT monitor. Yeap, I wanna use an AB switch and one monitor, one keyboard and one mouse to access both machines. The ADB Color Turbo NeXTstation and the PowerMac with Rhapsody. So, the answer for me is: get the Color Turbo, ADB and wait. The NeXT station will do a lot of work in the future, i.e. printer server for my NeXT printer and so on and so forth. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: NeXT Optical Drive innards Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E68pBJ.KLA@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 02:23:43 GMT Organization: University of Waterloo I was poking around inside my non-working optical drive (can't exactly make it worse, can I) and came upon something strange. The head assembly is composed of the big black part with the lens and the little circuit board. The board ias a couple of six-pin ICs on the top and then another IC that "hangs" down--is this IC the laser diode, routed through the lens with the prism I can see below? Should the "legs" of this just be sticking up above the board? I mean, they look like they're connected somewhere, but... -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 00:22:37 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970226233506.12955C-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> In-Reply-To: <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org> On Wed, 26 Feb 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > I spend 75% of my time on the machine surfing the 'net > (right now with imaging turned off due to my low ram giving the > processor and the fact that I can't see color). The other 25% is > writing papers. If you're using your NeXTstation to surf the net 75% of the time, here's my suggestion: buy someone's used mac (040). Run System 7.1 and Netscrap. Surf away. Use the NeXT for writing papers. Of course, if you're dead-set on using NeXTstep, get the Turbo Color. It'll be faster than your current NeXT, particularly if you tweak it out properly (i.e. 128 megs of 70ns RAM, properly tuned FS, separate swapdisk if possible). It won't help the serial port situation, though. If you can live without color, Moosmann's also selling mono turbos (ADB, I imagine) for $350. My heart screams out "Go for the NeXT," but that's because I'm lusting after one of those systems as well. And, of course, I don't have the money for it. :) Actually, James Moosmann made his first post advertising the turbocolor firesale only a week after I ordered my mono ADB slab last year. :-/ My head, however, says "Wait." Stick with the mono. Get the Turbo Color if you must upgrade now. After you graduate, if you still feel you need (or just really, really want ;)) the new, whizbang system of the day, then buy it. I just wouldn't put a lot of money into a computer right now, particularly if NeXT is your thing. PowerPC is showing some incredible potential (as opposed to PPro which is looking like more of a dead end now), and your NeXT of choice a year from now may come from Motorola or Apple, not an Intel vendor. -Isaac
From: "Yuris O. Fuentes" <yuris@Unforgettable.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory upgrade Date: Wed, 26 Feb 1997 23:59:17 -0500 Organization: DuPont Experimental Station Message-ID: <331514A5.167E@Unforgettable.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: yuris@magellan.es.dupont.com hi there, I can't find a FAQ archive for the NeXT so I've decided to post my question in this Newsgroup... I just added memory to my NeXTStation (from 16MB to 32MB). Everything seemed to be ok. The system ack the 32MB of physical memory, but during the rebooting I got the following error messages : 'unexpected kernel page fault failure' 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk' there's a bunch of addresses here and there Am I missing something important? should I "reconfigure" the kernel? or something else?? I manage to reboot in single-user mode but after a while I got a 'memory fault' and 'out of space' messages. eventually freezing the monitor. Any help/suggestions are welcome! Thanks very much in advance Yuris Fuentes *:)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Summary: Help a NeXT novice Keywords: NeXT, Screwup Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 06:16:16 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the computer, I will get a message: "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse pointer, but no Workspace Manager. Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all the FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. - Nick
From: Buddy Cox <buddyc@ibm.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Painting a Cube? Date: Thu, 13 Feb 1997 21:24:17 -0800 Message-ID: <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone successfully re-painted a cube? Any ideas on stripping current paint, priming the magnesium, paint type (FAQ mentioned 'Spray-On' is difficult to find?), etc. would be greatly appreciated. thx Buddy
From: jq@papoose.quick.com (James E. Quick) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Question about swapping root drive on NextStation Date: 27 Feb 1997 07:37:18 -0500 Organization: PHCS Message-ID: <5f3v5u$o0o@papoose.quick.com> References: <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear> In article <01bc1fa1$36e738d0$01c0e1ce@bear>, Ken Gleason & Ann Ferguson <ken@acni-2.com> wrote: >I've got to swap a root hard disk for a larger one in a nextstation. >Currently, my plan is to copy the entire root partition to another >machine's NFS volume, swap the disks, reinstall Nextstep, and then copy the >files back, and reboot. The machine is the authoritative source for >NetInfo for the domain. > >Any forseen problems in doing it this way, or any suggestions? Is there any way you can temporarily use an external case for this. This will simplify matter quite a bit. Just add the drive externally with an ID 2 or higher. Do a BuildDisk to get a boot track, and formatting done, and to install a minimal boot set. Then mount the drive as root : mount /dev/sd1a /tmp/mnt. Do a full backup and restore to the new drive (in bourne compatible shell) dump 0f - / | (cd /tmp/mnt; restore xf -) Power off, and change the external scsi ID to 0 for testing. Now reboot and you will be booting from the new drive, and can test it out. This will save a lot of time, and is safer. -- ___ ___ | James E. Quick jq@quick.com / / / | Private HealthCare Systems NeXTMail O.K. \_/ (_\/ | Systems Engineering Group (617) 895-3343 ) | The best wetware is often in beta.
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Painting a Cube? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:12:40 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E69JD5.4xz@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> In article <3303F701.6CDB@ibm.net> Buddy Cox <buddyc@ibm.net> writes: > Anyone successfully re-painted a cube? Any ideas on stripping current > paint, priming the magnesium, paint type (FAQ mentioned 'Spray-On' is > difficult to find?), etc. would be greatly appreciated. thx There was a photo in NeXTWorld of a cube painted dayglo pink. I think it was at MIT. If I remember right, you need to use water based paint, as its the only think that will take on magnesium. This makes stripping the old paint a bit of a doddle! $an
From: i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 27 Feb 1997 14:18:01 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: : I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing : around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. : : The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. : : What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network : Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a : LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the : computer, I will get a message: : : "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" : : and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. : : I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at : starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse : pointer, but no Workspace Manager. : : Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, : maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all : the : FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send : an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. : Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My : number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. : : - Nick : Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... If you can't find it, send me a mail. I could check it out, when I'm home. -- ========================================================================== Winfried Bergmann | Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page ==========================================================================
From: rao@news.uh.edu (Dr. Jagannatha Rao) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Install help needed... Date: 27 Feb 1997 15:10:22 GMT Organization: University of Houston Message-ID: <5f484u$6e5@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> References: <5f1hts$mas@Masala.CC.UH.EDU> Let me followup on my own posting. Don Yacktman, as always, gave a very helpful response and solved my problem. The key was to load the Adaptec 2940 SCSI driver **first** and then to load the EIDE driver (from a boot floppy downloaded from NeXTAnswers). After that, everything worked just fine. This was Openstep 4.0, on an ASUS P55T2P4 board, P166 non-MX, 512 KB cache, 64MB EDO ECC memory, 2940UW SCSI card, Quantum 2.1 G fast/wide drive, PS2 mouse and an EIDE CDROM. Dr. Jagannatha Rao (rao@news.uh.edu) wrote: : I am trying to install Openstep for Mach 4.0 on a Pentium 166 : with ASUS motherboard, Adaptec 2940 UW, a Quantum 2.1G hard drive : and a Goldstar 8X EIDE CDROM. I have installed Nextstep on Intel : before but that was an all SCSI set up. : My problem is how do I install from the EIDE CDROM. I searched NextAnswers : but I am still stumped. : During the boot process, I am asked for the SCSI conrtoller to which : the CDROM is attached. I expected to see EIDE/ATAPI as an option : using the two driver disks that came with OS 4.0 but apparently that : is not the case. : Do I have to download some boot floppyimage from NextAnswers? I understand : that the ATAPI driver makes the CDROM appear like a SCSI drive, but : what device driver do I use? : Thank you very much for this urgently needed help. : Jagannatha : -- : Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu : Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 : University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 : Houston, TX 77204-4792 -- Jagannatha Rao E-mail:rao@uh.edu Department of Mechanical Engineering Tel :(713) 743-4535 University of Houston Fax :(713) 743-4503 Houston, TX 77204-4792
From: jstella@okeefe.com (Seraphim J. Stella) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 27 Feb 1997 17:03:32 GMT Organization: digitalNATION high speed internet Message-ID: <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Cc: nyang@netcom.com In <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> Nick Yang wrote: > I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing > around, I have already made it unbootable... Someone please help me. > > The hardware is a NeXTstation mono 16/400. System version is 3.3. > > What I did to screwed it up is, I login as root and use Simple Network > Setup, and made the computer a NetInfo server (or client?). (I have a > LAN of couple of Unix machines and Macs.) And now when I restart the > computer, I will get a message: > > "lookupd: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping" > > and it will just hang there. After a couple of ^C, I will get a core dump. > > I then unplug the network cable and reboot, the process will pause at > starting file service, and after a couple of ^C, I will get the mouse > pointer, but no Workspace Manager. > > Can any NeXT guru tell me how to boot the computer without NetInfo. Or, > maybe if you know the solution to my problem. I am so lost. I checked all > the > FAQs, and NextAnswer. Please if you know, reply to the message or send > an e-mail to me. I will be checking the newsgroup and mail all night. > Or heck, if you know how to fix my problem, call me at my home. My > number there is 1-818-821-1989. Thanks a million in advance. > > - Nick > No problem... When your machine first boots, a screen will come up saying "Loading from Disk". At this point, hold down the right "Command" key and tap the upper left hand key on the numeric keypad (generally the "`" key). This will bring up a terminal boot screen. Type "bsd -s" (without the quotes) at the prompt. This will bring you up in single-user mode. Single user mode has only a UNIX command line interface, so don't worry when no Workspace Manager launches... Type the following commands: mkdir /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetInfoBackup cp -r /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ cp hostcongif /etc/netinfo /Users/<YourUserNameHere>/NetinfoBackup/ rm -r /etc/netinfo rm /etc/hostconfig cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc cp -r /usr/template/client/etc/netinfo /etc These commands will make a backup of your network configuration files, delete the old network configuration files and then put the templates back in their place. Make sure to replace the <YourUserNameHere> strings with your actual login name. F.Y.I The commands I gave you are not the most efficient way to execute these tasks, but are the easiest to "get" if you are unfamiliar with UNIX. Email me if you need additional help. Josh Stella
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTDimension Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 13:27:00 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: 27 Feb 97 14:29:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF3B4AE6-16231B@207.147.51.58> References: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 1:27 PM, David Herren <mailto:herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: > What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near the DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Chi On Ao <coao@space.mit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 14:49:09 -0500 Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, Massachusetts Message-ID: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, My apology if this is a FAQ... I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? Many thanks in advance, Chi On
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:00:56 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39004.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <AF3B4AE6-16231B@207.147.51.58> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39004.thr-207f12.f4cdd.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes:</bold> >Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near >the >DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? Also a good question. Here's another. Want to sell your Turbo '040 cube motherboard? ;-) -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 20:57:08 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5f4sf4$edp@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <SHESS.97Feb26175402@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Feb26175402@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > In article <199702260638.BAA01519@peak.org>, > Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes: >> So I have been thinking about getting an Intel machine. > > $720 ViewSonic 17PS monitor > $462 Seagate ST32155N (2G, 9ms, Ultra-SCSI) > $440 * 64M EDO RAM (2x32M simms, leaving 2 slots open) > $266 * Retail Matrox Millenium w/4M > $235 * Boxed Pentium-133 > $182 * ASUS P/I-XP55T2P4 motherboard w/512k cache > $110 InWin ATX minitower > $ 68 ASUS SC200 NCR 810 SCSI card (Fast-10 SCSI) > $ 64 Microsoft ergo keyboard > $ 30 Microsoft PS/2 Mouse (with the curve) > $ 26 TEAC floppy I agree with Scott: My P120 system is way more responsive than my slab, and I can also boot it into Quake or Flight Sim and still have my NeXT slab to write on while I'm doin' those long cross-country flights :-) I'd make a few substitutions, though: You don't really need SCSI; I'd stick with the standard EIDE drives: they're a lot cheaper, work just as well in most cases, and are much easier to replace, sell, etc. Less hassle. You'll need a CD-ROM to install the system. You can get EIDE CD-ROM drives for under $100 that work fine great. This is less than the premium you'd pay to have a SCSI system that will let you use your old 1x SCSI NeXT CD-ROM drive. Add another $100 for a SB16 sound card. If you're a LaTeX typist, take a GOOD look at the keyboard before you buy it. Fujitsi makes a solid model (47xx) that has the same physical layout as the NeXT non-ADB, non-ISO keyboards (it has a rectangular Return key with the backslash (\) above it. You can use the NeXTUSA keymapping to make the layout respond in exactly the same way as your NeXT cube. I don't know what I'd do if they ever stopped making that layout. I'd recommend a 3-button Logitech mouse instead of the Microsoft 2-button. You'll want that middle mouse button to look up-and-down in Quake. :-) And you'll avoid dumping more $$$ into MS's coffers. Stick with a good motherboard like the ASUS one mentioned above, and you'll have no problems. I also heartily recommend the Matrox Millenium, but you'll only need 2 MB of VRAM to do 16-bit colour at 864x1152. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: Loren Lewis <lewisli@pweh.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: test Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 16:15:54 -0500 Organization: Pratt & Whitney Message-ID: <3315F98A.1721@pweh.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> <32F6EE46.7622@oce.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.91.970211095516.18020A-100000@chris> <33042c95.60728333@news.escape.ca> <priss.855852718@tcp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this is a test
From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 27 Feb 1997 21:42:34 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5f4v4a$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> One more comment: Even if you wait until you graduate to buy, consider buying the OS while you are a student. The difference between academic pricing and world pricing is unreal. I have both color and mono turbo's where I work. The color machine is a dog compared to the black one, when both are at 32 MB. I have also found that for staring at the screen all day, I prefer my mono screen. My dream machine would have both a mono and a color screen, but the mono would be 1600 x 2400 pixels. (Cornerstone makes them... 150 dpi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6A3pv.nGv@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 20:32:19 GMT References: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >What is the large connector in the middle of the NeXTDimension board? > It's for the JPEG compression daughterboard, that never became a product. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Good config choices Date: 27 Feb 1997 22:16:52 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> I'm looking at buying a white box for my next Next. I've got the hardware compatibility guide, but where do I begin? I.E. I'm guessing that there are acceptable, good, and great choices. In other cases there may be superior hardware, that has features unsupported by NS, so the extra is a waste. Has someone collected benchmarks of various hardware bits? (In particular, graphics card and scsi card.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6A6pA.EuF@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 21:36:46 GMT References: <msg38923.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> <AF3B4AE6-16231B@207.147.51.58> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <AF3B4AE6-16231B@207.147.51.58>, Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >Good Question. As a matter of fact, what is that large connector near the >DSP port on a Turbo '040 Cube MotherBoard for? > This sure is a FAQ! It's for a DSP memory expansion board, which isn't available anymore. Do a Deja News search and you'll find more info about it. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: My black mouse has died.... Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 03:56:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corp. Message-ID: <331505F4.8A7@us.oracle.com> References: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniel D. Roscigno wrote: > > I have had to paint a "white" mouse black, now I need to wire the connector. I > got a mini din but don't know the conversion from a DB-9 (IBM style serial) to > the 8 pin din. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks, > Dan > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------- > Dan Roscigno ddr@phys.ufl.edu 392-4028 > Physics Department, University of Florida > ---------------------------------------------------------If your NeXT is ADB you can buy a cheap Mac Mouse for it. You wont have to rewire the Mac mouse.
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTDimension Date: 27 Feb 97 18:15:51 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF3B7FDC-93C24@207.147.60.200> References: <msg39004.thr-207f12.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 4:00 PM, David Herren <mailto:herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: > Also a good question. Here's another. Want to sell your Turbo '040 cube motherboard? ;-) No way! I'm in love with this baby. I want to dump my Macs for this. :-) Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: 27 Feb 97 18:19:53 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 2:49 PM, Chi On Ao <mailto:coao@space.mit.edu> wrote: > I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its > RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? If it's like an '040 Cube, you need to use a #10 Torx screwdriver. Then just pop off the back. The screws don't actually come all they way out (so you don't loose them). Steve pulled out all the stops on this baby. Unplug the fan and lay the back down. Unhook the OD from the motherboard if you can reach it, otherwise just tug on the Motherboard and it will come out. It will probably be tight so apply the pressure evenly. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software From: nyang@netcom.com (Nick Yang) Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Message-ID: <nyangE6ACo5.10n@netcom.com> Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Organization: Netcom On-Line Services References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f4ep4$l9e$1@news1.dn.net> Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 23:45:41 GMT Sender: nyang@netcom3.netcom.com HI. Thank you all so much for your help. I got the machine without the manuals so I didn't know how to boot into single user mode. I guess I didn't look hard enought on the web to find out about this as some people told me this is a pretty common problem. I got the machine to boot into single user mode and replaced hostconfig and netinfo with fresh copies and it reboot fine again. Thank you all so much. I learned so much in the last 24 hours. I love the machine a lot and think it's a beautiful piece of art. Anyway, when I get home and I am going to play with it some more. Thank you all again. - Nick
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:50:21 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39039.thr-73797331.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <SHESS.97Feb26175402@howard.one.net> <5f4sf4$edp@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39039.thr-73797331.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>croehrig@cs.ubc.ca,UseNet writes:</bold> >You don't really need SCSI; I'd stick with the standard EIDE drives: >they're a >lot cheaper, work just as well in most cases, and are much easier to >replace, >sell, etc. Less hassle. >You'll need a CD-ROM to install the system. You can get EIDE CD-ROM >drives for >under $100 that work fine great. This is less than the premium you'd >pay to >have a SCSI system that will let you use your old 1x SCSI NeXT CD-ROM >drive. >Add another $100 for a SB16 sound card. I TOTALLY disagree. I wouldnt' mess with anything IDE or EIDE. Way to slow--uses the cpu for transfers while scsi doesn't. I would buy scsi _everything_. Also, installs go MUCH smoother with scsci cd-rom drives. The installer is backwards in 4.1 such that if you have a scsi drive but EIDE CD, you have to select the EIDE driver when it asks for the scsi driver and then the reverse. Your mileage may vary, but I wouldn't mess with IDE. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:47:05 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39038.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39038.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>coao@space.mit.edu,UseNet writes:</bold> >I have recently had access to a 030 Cube. I would like to upgrade its >RAM. What tool would I need to open the cube? If the '030 cube is the same as the '040 cube then you need a 3mm hex wrench. -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 19:52:49 -0500 Organization: Language Schools of Middlebury College Sender: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu Message-ID: <msg39040.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> References: <3315E533.6A73@space.mit.edu> <AF3B80CC-974CA@207.147.60.200> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-ID: <msg39040.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638.part0@flannet.middlebury.edu> <bold>mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net,UseNet writes:</bold> >If it's like an '040 Cube, you need to use a #10 Torx screwdriver. Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx in my desk and had to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) -- David Herren -------------------------------------------------- Web: http://www.middlebury.edu/~herren/ General: herren@flannet.middlebury.edu NeXTMail only: herren@barcelona.middlebury.edu
From: clafey@buncombe.main.nc.us (Cicada La Fey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: sound options for cube? Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:54:12 GMT Organization: Mountain Area Information Network Message-ID: <5f6v34$pbr@mainsrv.main.nc.us> > Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, > what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals > to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. It's fairly > obvious where ethernet and scsi plug in, I don't yet have the mono > monitor I bought but do have the color for the ND board butI don't even > know which connector a mono would plug into (my guess is bottom-most > port). Which is serial A and serial B? Printer? THanks! Top port is the DSP port serial B serial A SCSI-2 printer (only NEXT Laser Printer works on this port) twisted pair ethernet thin wire ethernet Bottom port is the Display port which is the port for the monitor, or soundbox. Since it seems you have a Dimension board the mono monitor is unecessary if you have a sound box. The keyboard connects to the mono monitor or sound box. The mono monitor and sound box both have head phone and RCA left/right sound connections as well as a mini-plug for microphone input (8KHz 8-bit mono Codec).
From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:24:05 GMT Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5f70r5$2u6@nnrp.cs.ubc.ca> References: <msg39039.thr-73797331.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> In article <msg39039.thr-73797331.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> herren@flannet.middlebury.edu (David Herren) writes: > I TOTALLY disagree. I wouldnt' mess with anything IDE or EIDE. Way to > slow--uses the cpu for transfers while scsi doesn't. I would buy scsi > _everything_. SCSI certainly is less hassle, if you can afford the premium of a couple hundred bucks. I switched my system from an all-SCSI (Symbios 8xx) system to EIDE when I bought my 2.1G EIDE drive and haven't really noticed any difference in speed. Drives sure are cheaper, tho. CD-ROM too. And controllers come built in to the motherboard. Disclaimer: I use most of my files NFS-mounted from a 25MHz cube with a slow SCSI system; that's where *my* bottleneck is. An EIDE drive on a Pentium will be *waay* faster than any drive hooked up to a cube. -- Chris Roehrig croehrig@House.ORG Neuroscience and Computer Science at University of British Columbia, Vancouver http://www.House.ORG/chris http://www.sns.cs.ubc.ca/chris
From: andreas@lynet.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NO CD-ROM found Date: 28 Feb 1997 15:40:09 GMT Organization: LyNet Kommunikation und Netzwerkdienste GmbH Message-ID: <5f6u8p$qbr$2@lynet.de> Hello, I'm trying to install Mach 4.1 on an Intel PC (Pentium) Adaptec 2940UW CD-ROM Drive (NEC 3xi) He resets successfully the SCSI-Bus, but then he says "NO CD-ROM FOUND" and then installation stops. The CD-ROM Drive is accessible from other OS's (OS/2, MS-DOS,...) Can anyone help with that problem? Thank you in advance! Andreas
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: A better NeXTStation or an Intel machine? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 11:58:37 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <gn5kuxK00iWZ8533E1@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5f2tt3$j3m$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <AF3B0A23-6E69A@207.147.60.180> <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> In-Reply-To: <5f5o3v$231$1@macaw.cyberport.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 28-Feb-97 Re: A better NeXTStation or.. by Cmoore@cyberport.com > I dont think its practical to use any NeXT monitor on any other machine. > there may be a few other monitors that would work on a NeXT. > > they have an unusual sync rate, and resolution, thats not compatible > with any VGA or SVGA card i have ever heard of or any mac card. > > not to mention the cable,,,,have you looked at a NeXT monitor Cable ? Well, the cable is a 13W3 cable, which is or was a somewhat standard cable back when m68k-based Sun3 workstations were common. The monitor is a fixed frequency design with sync-on-green. You're right that the resolution is different from the standard ones used by Mac or PC video cards, but again it was a somewhat common resolution in use by the workstation world. So, you're unlikely to be able to use a NeXT monitor on other machines, unless you've got an old Sun workstation around. However, you can use almost any decent multisync monitor with NeXT's hardware, if the monitor will understand the sync-on-green. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: Jeff Sciortino <jjs2815@osfpop.isc.rit.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: [HELP] I screwed up my new NeXtstation! Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:10:26 GMT Organization: Industrial Engieering Message-ID: <5f5eqi$1h1@news.isc.rit.edu> References: <nyangE69034.81A@netcom.com> <5f452p$d97@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit i455@baracke.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Bergmann Winfried) wrote: >Nick Yang (nyang@netcom.com) wrote: >: I just received my NeXTstation today, and after 15 minutes of messing >Try to boot up in single user mode. I'm don't know how to do this with >Next-hardware, but it should be in the NextAnswers. Then restore the NI >database with the default somewhere in /usr/template/client... When the first graphic comes up on the screen (something like checking hardware) hold down the command key and press the ~ key (in the numeric keypad section of the keyboard) This should get you a prompt that looks like: NEXT> Type: bsd -s hit <ENTER> This should boot from your scsi device (hard disk) in single user mode. I think the NeXTanswer that deals with this is called power on? best o' luck >========================================================================== >Winfried Bergmann | >Germany - 91478 Ulsenheim 14 | I read it in the paper >i455@stio1.sari.fh-wuerzburg.de | There's death on every page >==========================================================================
From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Good config choices Date: 28 Feb 1997 02:44:25 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5f5gq9$9d2@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <5f514k$1362@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca wrote: : I'm looking at buying a white box for my next Next. : I've got the hardware compatibility guide, but where do I begin? : I.E. I'm guessing that there are acceptable, good, and great : choices. In other cases there may be superior hardware, that has : features unsupported by NS, so the extra is a waste. : : Has someone collected benchmarks of various hardware bits? : : (In particular, graphics card and scsi card.) Motherboard questions: Does having the HX chipset instead of the FX set have any advantage? Is there an advantage to having USB ports? Presumably having extra simm slots makes memory upgrading cheaper. You don't have to throw away the smaller chips as soon. What are the tradeoffs between EDO, ECC and Parity memory? **** SCSI questions: Controllers such as the Adaptex 2940UW that have internal 50 pin and 68 pin connectors: Presumably they can be used with both? ****
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: My black mouse has died.... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6Bo0D.nt6@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:48:13 GMT References: <5f2kjt$6ha@nostromo.clas.ufl.edu> <5f5gof$6fe@scanner.worldgate.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5f5gof$6fe@scanner.worldgate.com>, Glen W. Armstrong <garmstro@garmstro.worldgate.com> wrote: >It sounds like you want a DIY solution, but if you want to save >yourself some time, ComputerActive (www.computeractive.com) sells an >adaptor for non-ADB keyboards that will allow you to use a Logitech >(perhaps others as well) *bus* mouse as a replacement. I'm using this >solution now, and I'm very happy with it. > Yep. I've used the computerActive "Mouse Tail" thingie and it works well (like there's much to not work well...) It's pretty cheap, too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Openning a NeXT Cube Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6Bo4K.nBs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:50:44 GMT References: <msg39040.thr-ec74c6f1.54c5638@flannet.middlebury.edu> <AF3BBE0D-17E064@207.147.50.254> <wn5bh2C00iWZIHl=EJ@andrew.cmu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <wn5bh2C00iWZIHl=EJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 27-Feb-97 Re: Openning a >NeXT Cube by "Mitchell Allen"@worldne >> On Thu, Feb 27, 1997 7:52 PM, David Herren >> <mailto:herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >>> Strange. My '040 cube uses 3mm hex. Definitely NOT torx (I had a #10 torx >>> in my desk and had to go hunting down the 3mm when the cube arrived...) >> >> Hmm, I just took mine apart yesterday with a #10 Torx. > >Well, the two tools are roughly similar in size. >However, the NeXTtool shipped with the cube was a 3 mm Allen (hex) wrench. > I could picture the Torx (any idea what the non-trademark name for those is?) working, although it will likely bite into the screws a bit. This matters to some, but not to me (but the I have a NeXTtool). Also, if you're hunting for the "proper" tool, remember to get one with a rounded tip. I don't know what the real name for them is, but the flat tipped Allen keys don't work all that well. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: sound options for cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E6BoAy.o2G@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:54:34 GMT References: <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <msg39054.thr-20952f.f4cdd@flannet.middlebury.edu>, David Herren <herren@flannet.middlebury.edu> wrote: >What are the digital sound options for a non-adb cube? I've heard >mention of a soundbox or something like that but haven't seen one for >sale. Are these devices ADB only? If not, how does one connect it to a >non-adb cube? Other than the soundbox (or whatever it's called) are >there any AD/DA options for a non-turbo cube? > You only need the Sound Box if you're running a cube with a Dimension board and if you're running this way the you already have the Sound Box--it's where the keyboard plugs in. Mono monitors contain the proper sound hardware. >Is it also possible that I'm completely blind and that sound is already >an option on a cube? > Yes, all NeXT hardware comes with sound. You can get something called the Digtal Ears which is apparently a pretty good A/D converter, or go all out and get the AD64x (I think that's what it's called) which is a high-quality A/D and D/A, along with S/PDIF. >Speaking of being blind, would someone please tell me, top to bottom, >what all of the ports are on the cube motherboard? I've got no manuals >to describe the physical manifestation of the hardware. Sure. DSP, Serial B, Serial A, SCSI, printer, 10 Base-T Ethernet, 10 Base-2 Ethernet, monitor/sound box. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 19:58:41 GMT Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? Thanks for the user in advance.......
From: hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: 28 Feb 1997 20:04:04 GMT Organization: CTS Network Services (CTSNET), San Diego, CA Message-ID: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! Thanks for any help! Mike
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 16:36:00 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970228162506.12174B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Mike Cianflone <hawk@cts.com> In-Reply-To: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> On 28 Feb 1997, Mike Cianflone wrote: > I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have > connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue > on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was > sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to > a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors > that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! NeXT monitors are SOG, but unless you have a "special" video card, the NeXT monitor will not sync to VGA rates or to any standard PC text mode - it's fixed frequency. You might be able to use it exclusively in a graphical mode, tho. From the NeXT FAQ: The important specs for the color monitor are: Horz Scan Rate: 61 KHz Vertical Scan Rate: 68 Hz Resolution: 1280x1024 (NeXT uses 1120x832) NON-INTERLACED If you set your video card to match the above settings, it may work for you. Note that if the model # on your 21" is N4005a (as opposed to the N4005), you'll need to use 72 Hz for the v-scan (instead of 68 Hz). Also, if 1280x1024 doesn't work for the resolution, try 1024x768. You'll probably have to get the cable from a mail order vendor. Hope this helps, -Isaac
From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need info on NeXT color printer Date: 28 Feb 1997 16:59:43 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m220a0vbg0.fsf@zwiebelkuchen.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, I have a NeXT color printer but no manuals. I have just cleaned it of dust and I have not yet reloaded it new ink cartriges because it comes up with and error message "50 SERVICE". does anyone have, or does anyone know where to find on the net: - the NeXT Color printer owner manual - a listing of error messages does anyone know what type of paper the printer takes? coated? I have ckecked peanuts and NeXTanswers, but I could only come up with the partnumbers for the ink. thank you, nick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Info wanted: NeXT hardware password reset Message-ID: <E6BzK4.DDH@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 20:57:40 GMT This topics was discussed a while ago, but I did not catch it before it is too late now. I keep a copy of the NeXT hardware password reset program written by Louis A. Mamakos (then at University of Maryland), but I can not find the header files in order to compile his program. I also tried to take out the battery, but this did not work. Do I need to take out the ROM? What else can I do? Thanks for any info.
From: eric@skatter.USask.Ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help in connecting NeXT monitor to PC Date: 28 Feb 1997 21:23:06 GMT Organization: University of Saskatchewan Message-ID: <5f7ibq$bir@tribune.usask.ca> References: <5f7dnk$5a1@bogus.cts.com> hawk@cts.com (Mike Cianflone) wrote: > I am trying to connect a 21" original NeXT color monitor to a PC. I have >connected the red, green, and blue lines to the respective red, green, and blue >on the PC. The sync is off though. I was hoping that the monitor was >sync-on-green. In any case, If anyone knows the correct lines to connect to >a standard PC VGA cable please email the info to me! I have a few 21" monitors >that can be made use of by hooking up to Intel boxes! The NeXT monitor requires a sync signal to be mixed with the green color signal. Most PC video cards put the sync signals on separate lines. You can build a simple sync mixing circuit, or you can buy a video card that supports fixed-frequency, sync-on-green monitors. Have a look at the fixed-frequency monitor page: http://www.devo.com/video/ Information on a card specifically for the NeXT color monitors may be found at: http://www.photonweb.com/next/ It's not cheap, though..... -- Eric Norum eric@skatter.usask.ca Saskatchewan Accelerator Laboratory Phone: (306) 966-6308 University of Saskatchewan FAX: (306) 966-6058 Saskatoon, Canada. NeXTMail accepted.
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB: NeXT Color Printer Date: 28 Feb 1997 21:59:06 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2802971402300001@i528.oro.net> Let me know what you have. Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Representative from Brasil looks for partners aboard From: greyland@continet.com (Steve Ebener) Date: Thu, 27 Feb 1997 04:52:54 -0800 Message-ID: <19970227045254436686@dialup012.continet.com> References: <01bc23a5$18390fa0$0100007f@lib-info-01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Organization: Greyland Lib Informática Ltda. <Lib.Info@Empresa.com.br> wrote in part: > CVRoZSBCcmF6aWxpYW4gY29tcHV0Z <snip> My, that was interesting. Care to try again? Maybe with some words this time? -- Steve Ebener Greyland - greyland@continet.com 541/744-0568 Macintosh Consulting & Troubleshooting
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How about speed of OPENSTEP4.1 in NEXTSTATION TURBO? Date: 28 Feb 1997 22:52:23 GMT Organization: 9H, Inc. Message-ID: <5f7nj7$49c@library.airnews.net> References: <3317381e.14180356@168.126.63.6> gingko@bbs.para.co.kr (Hyeongjune Kim) wrote: > Hou about speed of OPENSTEP 4.1 OR 4.1J IN STATION TURBO? > Can you recommand it? Adn how much memory size is recommanded? I asked a similar question a week ago and have received several emails from OS4.1 developers. Since it looks like there're a few people besides me wondering about the same thing, I'm posting a brief summary of responses: Q: Should I get OS4.1 for Intel or Turbo? What's the performance degradation from NS3.3 to OS4.1? A0: OS4.1 User on Turbo machines feel about the same as NS3.3 A1: OS4.1 Dev is a dog on Turbo, should go with Intel if want to develop. A2: OS4.1 User is slooowww on 25MHz slabs & cubes, forget it. A3: OS4.1 on PPro200 w/ Matrox Millenium flies! A4: OS4.1 Academic Bundle's CDROM comes with binaries for Intel, m68k, and Sparcs. Intel requires two boot floppies, not sure about Sparc. Turbo hardware will boot from the CD, so by ordering OS4.1 for Intel you get the floppy for installing on Intel as well as the option to install it on black if you want to. Hint: Order OS4.1 for Intel. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MOUSE AND KEYBOARD INFO Date: 28 Feb 1997 23:05:08 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5f7ob4$ocr@news.digifix.com> References: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> In-Reply-To: <3316E45D.7EEB@gcomm.com> On 02/28/97, amando@gcomm.com wrote: >Recently I bought a Mono ADB Nextstation. The problem is that I am >Spanish and the keyboad's keys are in US English. Does anybody knows if >a Macintosh keyboard and mouse can be pluged in an ADB NextStation? > Yes. Any ADB keyboard and Mouse seem to work fine. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Info wanted: NeXT hardware password reset Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 28 Feb 1997 23:40:26 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5f7qda$bqc@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <E6BzK4.DDH@midway.uchicago.edu> Andrew Chang (tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu) wrote: : : This topics was discussed a while ago, but I did not catch it before it : is too late now. : : I keep a copy of the NeXT hardware password reset program written by : Louis A. Mamakos (then at University of Maryland), but I can not find : the header files in order to compile his program. I also tried to take : out the battery, but this did not work. Do I need to take out the ROM? : What else can I do? Thanks for any info. Take out the battery. Short across the locatation where the battery was with a paperclip. Go away for a cup of coffee. I should have forgotten it's passwd.
From: "Robert A. Dennis" <rdennis@mail.nuc.ucla.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 17" FIMI specs & pinouts Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1997 12:00:13 -0800 Organization: Crump Institute for Biological Imaging Message-ID: <33173948.470C@mail.nuc.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - I have looked through some FAQs hoping to find a pinout listing for the 17' FIMI color NeXT monitor. I want to connect one up to a PC running NT. I have heard that one needs a special video card that translates NT's VGA startup signal to the S-VGA that the FIMI wants. Apparently the Mirage z128 card will do this (ET6000 chip). Are there other card that will do this? What I need now id information regarding a custom HD-15 to 13W3 cable. Does the NeXT sync on green? I can get a HD15-13W3 cable made up, but do I need to have it wired up special? Anyone know how to do this? What are the specs for the FIMI? regards Buddy
These are the contents of the former NiCE NeXT User Group NeXTSTEP/OpenStep software archive, currently hosted by Marcel Waldvogel and Netfuture.ch.