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From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:29:29 GMT Control: cancel <5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5abtqh$82g@newman.pcisys.net> Sender: root@bytewarecafe.com Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970101.11. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970101.11.html for complete report. Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140
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From: donald@ppp.ablecom.net (Don North) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT PowerPC Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 19:38:05 -0700 Organization: Slow Death, Inc. Message-ID: <donald-3112961938050001@204.75.62.47> References: <32C74D89.3843@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> <19961230091500.EAA05255@ladder01.news.aol.com> In article <19961230091500.EAA05255@ladder01.news.aol.com>, jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) wrote: > Around Dec '92, NeXT invited Apple over to look at it's PowerPC > hardward since NeXT was about to get out of the hardware business, they > wanted to sell it's design. Apple thought they could do it better and > decided that they were not interested in it. To demo the hardware, the > PowerPC was running NeXTStep at the time but Apple was interested in that > either. > So there are 3 possiblities. They're still inside NeXT, it became > landfill :-( or more likely (like most protos) it's in some ex-NeXT > engineer's garage collecting dust. I guess we'll have to wait another 10 > years to found out which engineers might have it when Mr. Cringerly > finishes his finally chapter on the nerds. Or a fourth: NeXT spun out their hardware group as 'FirePower Systems' which became a PREP PowerPC design house, and is most likely now moving to CHRP. Recently the Motorola Computer Group purchased FirePower (still located in Menlo Park, CA, I believe) to be an internal design resource.
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From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 97 00:34:23 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software, nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.advocacy Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Mitch
From: Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk (Paul Lynch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 05:36:34 GMT Organization: P & L Systems Sender: news@seer.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk> References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> In article <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> "Jonathan D. Nolen" <nolen@snsnet.net> writes: > Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or > do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount > Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? They all have ethernet. Not all systems support AppleTalk; those that do support the ethernet variety only, and can't act as a server. You can buy IPT Partner for other systems. Paul -- Paul Lynch (NeXTmail) http://www.plsys.co.uk/~paul
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 05:29:04 GMT Control: cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Sender: help@spry.com Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970101.35. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970101.35.html for complete report. Original Subject: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 06:39:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> In-Reply-To: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I have been using for the past few years. I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: awang@plains.nodak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help disk label problem Date: 1 Jan 1997 00:53:19 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network (NDHECN) Message-ID: <5ad1kv$6j6@plains.nodak.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit okay. i'm in desperate need of help. NEXTSTEP 3.3 for intel. i installed system commander. i didn't like it. i deinstalled it it horked my second disk. here's what happens. i boot my system, and it gets as far as trying to mount the second disk. which is labeled LocalDisk it fails saying there's an invalid disk label. and dumps me to single user mode prompting to fsck it manually. fsck won't work. it claims the disk label is invalid. so i tried rewriting the disk label using /usr/etc/disk and i get a Disk I/O error. that's it. i can't get it to spew out a more verbose error. my entire /usr/local/ hierarchy is on that disk, as well as all my /LocalApps LocalDeveloper etc crap is there. none of iit backed upl. abut 800 MB wort any ideas on how i can reclaim it? or am i horked? i'm currently on vacation so if any replies could also be sent to my e-mail address it'd be much appreciated. thanks andy -- ------------------ Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT or MIME mail OK ------------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - -------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu -----------------------------
From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need advice on BNC connectors Date: 1 Jan 1997 11:23:22 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5adhfa$hdu@belzebul.imaginet.fr> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961231133625.9099A-100000@euler> In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.961231133625.9099A-100000@euler> Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> writes: > > I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using > Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also > what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? > > Thanks. > > Joe McWilliams > the BNC T-adapter is F/M/F the BNC terminators is 50 ohm. (actually 50*sqrt(-1) ohm since it is an impedance of 50 ohm, not a resistor)
From: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" original NeXT Monitor looses brightness Date: 01 Jan 1997 15:56:34 +0100 Organization: MPI biophysical Chemistry, Goettingen, DE Message-ID: <we6loadmokd.fsf@Cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> hi, after a while my 21" next color monitor has started to become darker every day. it's still usable, but starts to be annying. i heard about problems with monochrome monitors before, but didn't notice problems with the color ones. is this problem and/or a solution knwon to someone? thanks, stephan p.s. please cc: answers, i'll be glad to summarize. -- Task: System Administration Unix (HP-UX, Linux, FreeBSD) Email: Stephan Trebels <strebel2@cage.mpibpc.gwdg.de> Mail: Abt. 081, MPI bpC, Am Fassberg, 37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel: +49 551 201 1 454
From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: 01 Jan 1997 11:12:08 -0500 Organization: Cleveland State University Sender: jason@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu Message-ID: <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> In-reply-to: JOSE_M@internetMCI.com's message of 24 Dec 1996 03:55:51 GMT In article <59nk87$a7o@news.internetmci.com> JOSE_M@internetMCI.com writes: That message don't make any since.....<scratching head> all e-mail is text only... how can you hide a binary file in ascii format??? you can't unless that tag a file with a text and then you have to run i manualy...... Can't you see that that you yourself are propagating this internet message virus which has already infected 35 newsgroups? Jason
From: "Anthony C. Olsen" <olsena@cs.byu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cyrix 6x86 - P150+ for SALE Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 10:25:47 -0700 Organization: Brigham Young University Message-ID: <32CA9E1B.2818@cs.byu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm selling my IBM computer. Here are the specs: Cyrix 6x86 P150+ 1024x768 - 14" monitor (nice model) 8x CDROM 1.2 GB harddrive Video accelerator card 16-bit sound card w/ speakers 14.4 Date/Fax/Voice Modem (keyboard, mouse, mousepad (older), 3.5" floopy drive) Windows95 All brand new (3 months old) $1500 O.B.O. You can call me at (801) 373-6180, or e-mail me at my address below Tony Olsen Provo City, Utah, USA -- Anthony C. Olsen (Tony) mailto:olsena@cs.byu.edu NEW!! Check out my allias e-mail address!! =) mailto:ferris@myself.com http://students.cs.byu.edu/~olsena/index.html "God lives! The Book of Mormon is true!" http://spock.et.byu.edu/~mcakir/bom.html
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 1 Jan 97 10:45:03 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan1104503@howard.one.net> References: <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com> In-reply-to: lavalle@nwlink.com's message of Sun, 29 Dec 1996 13:31:36 -0800 In article <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com>, lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) writes: How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on a Turbo slab? I got a turbo mono slab about three months ago, and an Intel P133 machine about two months ago, so I'll bite ... Is it 4 times as fast? No good answer to this. "Maybe"? For some things, yes, it is four times as fast. The P133 is 200 "MIPS" versus 24 "MIPS", both as tested by NXBench 2.2. OTOH, the NXFactor2.2 (graphics) is 3.4 vs 1.7, so it's only twice as fast there. Admittedly, the mono machine is only pushing two bpp, the P133 is pushing 16 bpp. Another, more important (for me) benchmark was the compile time for BackSpace. It was 2:35 on the Turbo, and it's :50 on the P133. This is probably partially due to memory size (P133 has 64M, NeXT Turbo has 48M), and partially due to SCSI speed (NeXT machines are _old_). Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? Define "worth it". The P133 was $2500, w/17" monitor (and _without_ NeXTSTEP), while the NeXT turbo slab was $600 or so, with 16M of RAM and a 250M hard drive. I still use the slab quite a bit, because it's got a sharper screen (mono, right?), and the keyboard and mouse are somewhat nicer. It works fine as an email/news server/reader. My goal is to get into NEXTSTEP or OpenStep software development. NeXTSTEP is fine, but OpenStep gets pretty doggy on this machine. Don't get me wrong - you can go ahead and work on it, it just depends on whether you value time more or money more. OTOH, I'm referring to _development_. If you're coming into NeXTSTEP afresh, well, you probably won't have to spend much time waiting for large programs to compile! For learning, a turbo slab would probably last you six to nine months. In that light, the much lower entrance cost of the turbo slab is pretty attractive. If, after six months, you decide you don't want to develop for NS/OS, well, then it's not outrageously expensive for a high-resolution news/mail reader :-). Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
Message-ID: <32CAB150.1C44@ebs.ac.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 12:47:44 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> <5ad0qj$k8e@news.digifix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott Anguish wrote: > > On 12/31/96, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > >Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > >and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > >between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. > > > > While I don't have any hard data to provide, the 133MHz Pentium that > I'm currently working on is noticibly faster than the 040 Turbo Slab that I > have been using for the past few years. > > I wish I was able to run it on the Pentium Pro 200 sitting next to > it (alas, it is serving other duties). :-) > > > > -- > Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS > sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com I did a little research on the 68040 speed and looked at various sites which published SpecMarks on various hardware platforms, and Just CPU alone the 68040 ranks about even with a 486/66. The NeXT runs a different/faster bus than the PC, however. But even So, I would suspect on most things you'll be running 2X+ on the Pentium. Several people at work questioned why I recently bought an 040 box when I already have a Dual P133 system, as they run NS on Intel. My response "Because I always wanted one, and they're cool"
From: "Eren Kotan" <Eren_Kotan@next.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:26:37 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote in article <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226>... > Does anyone have any specific specs on the speed differences between Black > and White hardware running Nextstep? I'm thinking of speeddifferences > between an '040 turbo cube and something like a 166MHz Pentium. Well, I use both platforms here at work, and home; not surprising, really ;-} Generally speaking, black hardware is slower but very stable, white hardware can be extremely fast but unless you put it together carefully, with supported devices, and high quality components, they can be rather unstable. If money is not tight, you can put together an excellent PC which will outperform black boxes and be (nearly) as stable. What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics performance? IO? Let me know. Regards, Eren --- Eren Kotan - Eren_Kotan@next.com NeXT Software UK Limited ObjectLine Support
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Subject: Hard drives in stations Message-ID: <32CB5A3B.649C@invisix.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 00:48:27 -0600 Organization: Invisix MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hey there, The NeXT FAQ talks a bit about hard drives in black hardware (http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.081.html) and states a few drives that don't work. They talk a little about what to look for in a drive, but I would like to know if anyone can give me brand/model of some drives that they know work in a turbo color station. I'm looking to put in a 1gb or 2gb drive into my station. Any thoughts from someone who's recently upgraded would be appreciated! Thanks. -- What do you call a room full of Macintosh computers? An Apple orchard. THE NETWORK IS THE COMPUTER. (C) Sun Microsystems. http://www.invisix.com ... NeXT, Silicon Graphics and Stuff
From: jabaker@grail.cba.csuohio.edu (jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> Control: cancel <vohf9idd0.fsf@jlbaker.async.csuohio.edu> Date: 1 Jan 1997 22:11:56 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5aenfc$7jr@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need advice on BNC connectors Date: 2 Jan 1997 00:21:52 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5aev30$o6a@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <Pine.NXT.3.95.961231133625.9099A-100000@euler> In article <Pine.NXT.3.95.961231133625.9099A-100000@euler>, Joseph McWilliams <mcwilljg@euler.sfasu.edu> wrote: > >I'm setting up a small network and will connect two NeXT 040 slabs using >Thinnet coax. Does the BNC T-adapter need to be F/M/F or F/F/F? Also >what resistance should the BNC terminators be, 50, 75, or 93 OHM? > >Thanks. > >Joe McWilliams > > On my network (Cube plus station) I found I needed 50 ohm cable, 50 ohm terminators (one each end, attached to the unused end of the T connector for the two machines that sit at either end of the cable -- in my case I only had the two machines to worry about, but if you have more, machines in the middle will have Ts with both ends cabled), and the T connector is M/F/M, i.e. the cross bars of the T have no rotating collars, and the middle off-shoot has a rotating collar. Figure out the total length you need between any given pair of machines, add some spare (you may want to move a machine) and get the place you buy the cable from to put the needed female ends on the cable for you. Saves you having to use potentially unreliable non-crimping cable ends. The cable impedance is important. The whole point of the cabling, connectors, and attached electronics is to maintain a uniform impedance to avoid reflections within the system (which are the cause of noise and problems). Mine fired up first time and has run perfectly since. Remember, no more than 30 computers, maximum cable length 185 metres total (extend using up to 4 repeaters). Good luck. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) Subject: SCSI hard drive for the black box Message-ID: <erotandiE3Cv54.28B@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 00:39:04 GMT Sender: erotandi@netcom.netcom.com Hi, I am a new black box user and I recently got a black box without any harddrive. (Color Turbo station.) I was wondering what kind of hard drive can be used? I've been trying to get a Fujitsu 1606 (non active terminated) 1 gig hard scsi II hard drive and NeXTSTEP does not seem to like it: It's complaining that initialization failed. Do you need to terminate the internal hardrive? Thanks... Edhi
From: gdavis@shentel.net (Greg Davis) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT-Midi Interface Date: 2 Jan 1997 01:04:27 GMT Organization: Fighter Grafix Message-ID: <gdavis-0101971959280001@eb3ppp22.shentel.net> Does anyone know what hardware is available to connect black hardware to a MIDI box? I'm sure there is such a beast with all the DSP capabilities of the black box, but don't quite know where to go for it. Any info would be appreciated. Gregor
From: Rainer Frohnh鰂er Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 2 Jan 1997 09:11:43 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Message-ID: <5afu4f$ump@winx03.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5afd2l$ssg@news.duke.edu> Frankly, if you want to do development under OPENSTEP 4.x : Get a white box with loads of Memory (64+). I'm using a 25MHz slab and while I love this machine, its age shows when doing CPU-intensive stuff like compiling. And the OpenStep framework - in its current implementation - is a real hog. Second point: The SCSI interface of the black boxes is pretty slow - I never got beyond 800 K/s, the Turbos are about 1.1 M/s. I got a Pentium 166 on this desk with a NCR 810 chip that delivers > 3.3 M/s. A up-to-date Intel box feels better in terms of response time. This doesn't hold for NEXTSTEP 3.3, it started to show with the OpenStep frameworks and the new Project and Interface Builder. And no, I wouldn't give my slab away for anything in the world. Perfect machine. Just my DM 0.02 -- ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (finger cip@mathematik for public key ...)
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Painfully Slow Text Scrolling in ROM Monitor on ND Turbo Cube Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc Date: 2 Jan 1997 03:35:49 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5afvhl$bln@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Ident-User: liuyi Summary: Slow Text Scrolling Prob. in ROM Monitor on ND Turbo Cube Keywords: Text Scrolling, ND, Cube, Turbo [ Crosspost: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,] [ comp.sys.next.sysadmin ] [ Followup: comp.sys.next.misc ] I recently got a ND Turbo Cube. It runs everything perfectly except for this problem: Problem: When booting in verbose mode, the text scrolls very slowly line-by-line from bottom to top, kind of like watching a terminal connected via 2400 baud modem, but felt a lot slower and a lot more annoying. HW + SW: 040 33MHz ND Cube, 32MB on ND, 32MB on 040, all simms non-parity 70ns, running NS3.3, 1 200MB boot + 1 3.2GB HDs. I'd never owned a ND Turbo Cube or any Color motorola hardware before. But compared to my 040 33MHz slab whose ROM monitor scrolls text fast and smoothly --- jump scroll (?), the ND Turbo Cube's text scroll is more like a snail scroll. I tried playing with "p" command in the ROM monitor, but short of switching off the "verbose" mode, nothing seems to affect this behavior. On top of this, everything else runs fine with visually comparable speed to the Turbo slab once the machine boots up. So my question: Is this a normal behavior in the ROM monitor on the ND Turbo Cube? Thanks! liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: mthomas7@ix.netcom.com (Michael Thomas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Useful software, mono/color Date: Wed, 01 Jan 1997 21:24:41 -0500 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <mthomas7-0101972124420001@nyc-ny11-17.ix.netcom.com> References: <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu> In article <jak-ya023680002912960132500001@news.asu.edu>, jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) wrote: > I'm thinking of getting a NeXTstation, and would like to know what kind of > apps are out there that can make it a useful machine to me(as opposed to a > beautiful example of industrial design sitting on my desk). > > The categories of software in which I am interested: > > DTP (something like Quark, maybe?) > all sorts of graphics (mostly bitmapped, little vector) including 3D > CAD/something like formZ > webdesign > light web/mailserver software? > and of course internet surfing (mail, newsgroups, www). > > Are there any notable apps in these categories? Especially shareware, of > course. And a way to transfer files to/from a Mac. > > > Also, please note whether any such apps would want color. I'd need to > justify a color NeXTstation (I'm leaning toward mono). > > Sorry if this asks for a lot of info, but I'd appreciate it greatly. > > thanks > john > > --- - ------- ------- > Music is a higher revelation than philosophy. - Beethoven > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ John, For DTP track down a copy of Aldus Virtuoso (preferably v 2, AKA "Virtuoso Gold). It's Freehand 4 for NeXT and will export files as Freehand 3, various Illustrator formats and I forget what else for the Mac. Plus, it'll let you see all those Postscript effects you have to take on faith with a Mac. One thing to remember: NeXT (or at least the scanner I used) saves its TIFF scans in a Windows flavor. If you try to use them in a Mac, open them from within Photoshop and save as Mac TIFFs. For retouch, WetPaint could show Photoshop a few things about interface design, though it lacks a "magic wand". I hear good things about Tiffany, too. Omniweb from Lighthouse Design is a nice Netscape browser for NeXT. As for hardware, you might really consider a more modern Pentium running NeXTstep. Plain wrapper, but same soul. And a ton faster since the old color blackware equals a Quadra 9-something. Mike Thomas (Mac 7500 and NeXT Turbo Color station)
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need help with a Toshiba Satellite 420cdt Date: 1 Jan 1997 19:03:52 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.852174093@idiom.com> Summary: Can I do this at all? Gentlemen, I have been issued a Toshiba laptop by my employer, and I can't seem to get NEXTSTEP to recognize its internal CD drive for an install. The machine is a Toshiba Satellite 420cdt, with 24Mb RAM, and a 1.2 gig disk. It's currently running windoze, which I want to banish to a games-only partition. So, does anyone know a way to get NEXTSTEP installed in this machine? Thanks, -jcr
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 1 Jan 1997 23:20:37 -0500 Organization: Duke University, Durham, NC, USA Message-ID: <5afd2l$ssg@news.duke.edu> Below are benchmark results for NEXTSTEP 3.3 running on a variety of different platforms. A Pentium Pro 200 MHz machine is about 20 times as fast as a 25 MHz NeXT machine for basic processing. On graphics performance (NXBench), Pentium machines do not exceed 3 times the performance of NeXT 25MHz, while Pentium Pro machines can be optimized for up to 8 x, so I've heard. -- Lee Altenberg altenber@acpub.duke.edu Smaller numbers are better: ============================================================================= sec/iteration | relative to HP 712/60 small medium large vlarge | small medium large vlarge ----- ------ ----- ------ | ----- ------ ----- ------ NeXT 040-25 1.19 8.94 85.55 260.67 | 9.56 8.70 4.01 3.22 ============================================================================= Pentium Pro 200 MHz 0.07 0.49 4.80 13.08 | 0.56 0.48 0.23 0.16 ============================================================================= Micron P100 Millenia (32MB RAM): 0.13 1.02 13.35 42.63 | 1.08 0.99 0.63 0.53 ============================================================================= Micron Millenia P133 Plus (32MB RAM) 0.11 0.82 11.22 36.83 | 0.87 0.79 0.53 0.45 ============================================================================= Gateway2000 486/DX2 (32MB RAM): 0.55 4.21 41.80 117.70 | 4.46 4.09 1.96 1.45 ============================================================================= P5-90 (Intel motherboard, 72MB RAM) 0.17 1.28 17.58 55.28 | 1.34 1.24 0.82 0.68 ============================================================================= HP 712/60 0.12 1.04 21.38 82.55 | 1.01 1.01 1.00 1.02 ============================================================================= HP 712/80 (64MB RAM) 0.09 0.73 15.80 61.75 | 0.75 0.71 0.74 0.76 ============================================================================= SUN SparcStation 5 (64MB RAM) 0.16 1.30 18.38 56.13 | 1.31 1.26 0.86 0.69 ============================================================================= Non-NEXTSTEP UNIX: ============================================================================= IBM RS/6000: 0.12 0.93 7.57 21.65 | 0.99 0.90 0.35 0.27 ============================================================================= IBM SP2 Node: 0.12 0.94 7.90 23.30 | 0.98 0.92 0.37 0.29 ============================================================================= DEC Alpha DEC3000 - M400 (256MB RAM): 0.13 0.94 11.83 37.37 | 1.04 0.91 0.55 0.46 ============================================================================= SGI R4000-50/100 0.23 1.83 22.22 78.40 | 1.87 1.78 1.04 0.97 ============================================================================= Benchmark program by Phillip Tokumaru Research Associate/Engineer Department of Aerospace Engineering University of Southern California ptok@cave.usc.edu This benchmark computes the potential-flow pressure distribution on a Sphere using the axisymmetric panel method of Smith and Hess. Floating point type is double. The program was run under NEXTSTEP 3.3 with optimizations -O -O2 -funroll-loops are given below: It is mainly a CPU/Memory system benchmark.
From: help@spry.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:41:17 +0100 Organization: Self Help Corp Message-ID: <borra.5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> References: <5ackui$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> EMP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 494. See report "totalmarketing" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: FREE EDUCATIONAL VIDEO/CDs.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.software,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.unixware.a From: "Bitstream" <m.jorna@tip.nl> Subject: REQ: reg code for in-cube for win95 (voice recognition) Message-ID: <01bbe833$a65b5480$1ed2b18f@t819096> Sender: news@tip.nl (The News User) Organization: The Internet Plaza Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:03:05 GMT plaese mail to : m.jorna@tip.nl
From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 13:04:03 GMT Organization: SOUND-tec Message-ID: <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) wrote: > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) > wrote: > >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > >> > >>Subject: Virus Alert > >>Importance: High > >> > >>If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL > >>GREETINGS! ; please delete it > >>WITHOUT reading it. > In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... > > > >What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't > >contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually > run > >it. Someday these people will learn.... > > > They completely missed the joke this time, because the original poster didn't > use the Subject: 'PENPAL GREETINGS!'. "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone you know - even your mother in law"
From: joegidi@aol.com (JoeGidi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: need help with networking and Zip Date: 2 Jan 1997 15:30:14 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970102152800.KAA14663@ladder01.news.aol.com> Two questions: 1) can I network my NeXTstation to my Power Mac 6100 to share my HP Deskwriter 550C? If so, how? 2) can I use my Mac's Zip drive to back up my NeXT running NEXTSTEP 3.0? is any special driver software needed? also, can the NeXT be booted from a Zip? If anyone can help I'd really appreciate it. J. Gidi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Message-ID: <E3Du77.BzB@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:16:18 GMT In article <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI)) writes: > Hello all, > > Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would > appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... > The only concern is heat. Anything that approaches 15W might become a problem and needs careful monitoring. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Message-ID: <E3DuG7.C00@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:21:43 GMT In article <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) writes: > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it > possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up > to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the > Mac to the NeXT printer? > Anything that conforms to the section on "Mixed Networks" in the online sysadmin manual will work. This translates to the fact that you will have to get Internet remote print capabilities for your Mac. Aquiring "Partners" from IPT to make NEXTSTEP AplleTalk aware has no good price/performance ratio, IMHO. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: Arnold.Creten@ping.be (Arnold Creten) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help:nextstep 1.0a and 3 Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 04:14:06 GMT Organization: EUnet Belgium, Leuven, Belgium Message-ID: <5ah1ok$r5b@news1.Belgium.EU.net> Help.. help I have a nextcomputer 68030 25mhz 16 mb, harddrive and optical, nextstep 1.0a and it works...(one of the 1 in Belgium back in 89 - collecting (old and (special(!)) computers I acquired it a few months ago....) Now I received Nextstep 3.0 on cd rom and cd rom utilitys on floppy. How to proceed to use NeXTstep 3.0 from cd.rom?? A compatible cd rom drive will not be the problem but 1.0a can not read a cedrom! and witch floppydrive is compatible with my machine? Help! a novice in this field..:-)) o, yeh, a happy new year for all! Arnold.Creten@ping.be
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT-Midi Interface Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 06:35:34 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32CC2A10.51B5@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <gdavis-0101971959280001@eb3ppp22.shentel.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greg Davis wrote: > > Does anyone know what hardware is available to connect black hardware to a > MIDI box? I'm sure there is such a beast with all the DSP capabilities of > the black box, but don't quite know where to go for it. Any info would > be appreciated. > > Gregor Check out following web-site: http://www.rcn.de/English/NeXT/MidiInterface.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Message-ID: <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:48:09 GMT hi all... My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring a serial connector. Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? What should I ask for in the way of accessories when I purchase this beastie? Do I need a parallel-serial converter, and the serial connector hack in the FAQ? Do I need something else? What do I have to do on the software side of things? We're both very excited, as this will be our first in-home laser printer, but I'm a bit concerned, since getting the thing connected to my slab is a big grey fog for me right now. Could someone clarify? Thanks, Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 2 Jan 1997 23:05:12 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." <lambertb@uic.edu> writes: > Hi folks, > > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's brand/model too. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:28:17 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E3E8n6.8vI@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <SHESS.97Jan1104503@howard.one.net> In article <SHESS.97Jan1104503@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) writes: > In article <lavalle-2912961331370001@port21.annex6.nwlink.com>, > lavalle@nwlink.com (Russ LaValle) writes: > How does OpenStep on a Pentium (say... P120) compare to NEXTSTEP on > a Turbo slab? > > Is it worth it to get a Black machine vs an Intel? > > Define "worth it". The P133 was $2500, w/17" monitor (and _without_ > NeXTSTEP), while the NeXT turbo slab was $600 or so, with 16M of RAM > and a 250M hard drive. I still use the slab quite a bit, because it's > got a sharper screen (mono, right?), and the keyboard and mouse are > somewhat nicer. It works fine as an email/news server/reader. I agree with everytihng Scott says... I wouldn't like to work on a major project on Black hardware (hence I have a big pentium at work), but the Black hardware is just nicer, and easier to setup/use, so thats why I have at home (the price helps too!). My Black machine will probably outlast my PC - Quality lasts, performance doesn't. If you're looking to "get into" NeXT development then the Black machines are a bargin, and will remain viable as desktop machines for some time. Put the PC in the cupboard under the stairs, and access it remotely from something that looks nice! Mac users will find the Black machines "just work". Hacking together a good PC is possible, but setting up a good Black machine involves plugging it in. > large programs to compile! For learning, a turbo slab would probably > last you six to nine months. And in 6-9 months Apple may be shipping something good! $an
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:53:38 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0201971351120001@mfs-annex1-p33.dsphere.net> References: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> <E3DuG7.C00@nidat.sub.org> >> If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it >> possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up >> to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the >> Mac to the NeXT printer? This is extremely difficult. You can, however, print to a postscript file, ftp the file to the next, and print it from there... Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." <lambertb@uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:45:56 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi folks, Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? Thanks in advance. -bruce Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D. Department of Pharmacy Administration University of Illinois at Chicago lambertb@uic.edu http://ludwig.pmad.uic.edu/~bruce/ Phone: +1 (312) 996-2411 Fax: +1 (312) 996-0868
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701021410.GAA25426@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a2ed41369e909a818582b79e43163fa4 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 97 09:10:07 -0500 Subject: Re: Hard drives in stations Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: a2ed41369e909a818582b79e43163fa4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Matt Jurcich <mattj@invisix.com> Original Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 00:48:27 -0600 > The NeXT FAQ talks a bit about hard drives in black hardware > (http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.081.html) and states a few > drives that don't work. They talk a little about what to look for > in a drive, but I would like to know if anyone can give me > brand/model of some drives that they know work in a turbo color > station. I'm looking to put in a 1gb or 2gb drive into my station. send me an email with the SUBJECT send-ascii scsi-for-black for a not-complete list TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 01:15:58 GMT Organization: RHAHMM Message-ID: <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net> In article <59s88u$63f@buffnet2.buffnet.net>, rwcrosby@buffnet.net (Rik Crosby) wrote: >Ya know, if I remember correctly, thi seems to be the EXACT same warning that >was floating around with Good Times. > >In article <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net>, mtm@insync.net says... >> >>What is this? Another "Good Time's Virus" scare? This is crazy. Email can't >>contain a virus. Maybe a binary attachment, but then you have to actually run >>it. Someday these people will learn.... >> >>In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) wrote: >>>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded >>>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM >>> >>>Subject: Virus Alert [snip] I apologize for the virus alert post, which I have canceled. It was stupid of me to post it without checking it out first. -- John
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Black vs. White Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.advocacy Date: 3 Jan 1997 03:23:16 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5ahu34$1fu8@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <AEEF6196-1C1058@207.147.50.226> <01bbf81b$3990d8a0$102c1281@demoroom> Eren Kotan (Eren_Kotan@next.com) wrote: : What did you want to know, specifically? Compile speed? Graphics : performance? IO? : Let me know. I am curious how well a Pentium compares against the DSP on Black hardware? And does most/all audio software use the DSP? Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
Message-ID: <32CC76E0.1F6D@ebs.ac.com> Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 21:02:56 -0600 From: Eric Ulmer <ulmerer@ebs.ac.com> Organization: ServiceNet, LLC. Andersen/BBN MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: New NeXT WWW page Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Check out www.isd.net/eulmer I've gathered together a lot of links in this page. Mostly mega-surfing and stealing links. Comments welcome. -Eric
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:16:06 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000301970016060001@news.tiac.net> References: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> <E3DuG7.C00@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <E3DuG7.C00@nidat.sub.org>, Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > In article <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> jak@asu.edu (John > Kestner) writes: > > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it > > possible to print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up > > to the NeXTstation? Or is there any other way to get from the > > Mac to the NeXT printer? > > > Anything that conforms to the section on "Mixed Networks" in the online > sysadmin manual will work. This translates to the fact that you will have > to get Internet remote print capabilities for your Mac. Try the lpr application included in the lpDaemon package at the usual Mac archives. It is supposed to support Mac -> Unix spooler -> printer. (I have only used the NeXT -> Mac -> Laserwriter capability provided by lpDaemon, but that worked well.) Barney
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can I put a 3.5" full-height drive into a Turbo Color Station? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 00:23:05 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000301970023050001@news.tiac.net> References: <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> <E3Du77.BzB@nidat.sub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <E3Du77.BzB@nidat.sub.org>, Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de wrote: > In article <5a9g3f$jc6@portal.gmu.edu> rraman@site.gmu.edu (Ravishankar > Ramanathan (CSI)) writes: > > Hello all, > > > > Can I install a full-height hard drive (3.5") into a Turbo slab? I would > > appreciate if some one could fill me in on this soon... > > > The only concern is heat. Anything that approaches 15W might become a > problem and needs careful monitoring. I've been using a Seagate Hawk for about a year now with no trouble, and it runs very hot. OTOH, its upper surface is pretty close to the slab's lid, which seems to provide a heat sink. You could add means for thermal transfer to the lid. (I've often though I should just glue a copper mesh ball in there.) Barney
From: Mark Sitkowski <marks@iaccess.COM.AU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 22:54:47 +1100 Organization: D.S.S Message-ID: <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit John Brataas wrote: > > battleaxe@cwc.lsu.edu (Scott Hoppe) wrote: > > > >In article <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net>, jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) > > wrote: > > >>Subject: Fw: IMPORTANT! virus alert - " Trojan Horse" -Forwarded > > >>Date: Monday, December 09, 1996 9:37 PM > > >> > > >>Subject: Virus Alert > > >>Importance: High > > >> Do you know the name of this newsgroup? Did you see the word 'unix' anywhere? I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! > > "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons > johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a > Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will > rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow > theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 > rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone > you know - even your mother in law" -- Best regards, Mark -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Sitkowski 笑比哭好! "In God we trust. All others pay cash..." 5 Bronaldi Street Heathmont Victoria 3135 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Home phone: (613-9) 729-0731 给我打电话! Home fax: (613-9) 720-1487 E-mail: marks@iaccess.com.au --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 12:22:12 GMT Organization: SOUND-tec Message-ID: <5aitlp$jks@elle.eunet.no> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Mark Sitkowski <marks@iaccess.COM.AU> wrote: > Do you know the name of this newsgroup? Did you see the word 'unix' > anywhere? > I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was > no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! I was so sick about all the Virus Alert on the net so I had to do something :) The ultimate virus joke : ) John :) > > "Don't read the messages sendt to you by the obnoxious persons > > johnb@falch.no and janr@falch.no. If you open this message on a > > Windows PC you will enable a virus that force you to type "I will > > rather use a Macintosh" once evey 5 minutes. If you don't follow > > theese instructions the virus will spinn up you CD or floppy to 95.000 > > rpm. and slice your PC into two halfs. Forward this info to everyone > > you know - even your mother in law" > -- > Best regards, > Mark > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Mark Sitkowski 笑比哭好! > "In God we trust. All others pay cash..." > 5 Bronaldi Street > Heathmont Victoria 3135 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Home phone: (613-9) 729-0731 给我打电话! > Home fax: (613-9) 720-1487 E-mail: marks@iaccess.com.au > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:13 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E3FMI2.D6p@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> In article <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu writes: > hi all... > > My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, > which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network > gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only > discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring > a serial connector. > > Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? Assuming it's postscript... Connect it to the serial port. Run printmanager. Select Add printer, and select the printer. Total doddle - took me five minutes to hook up an apple lasertwriter. If it's not listed you need to get the PPD file for your printer and add that (you might like to check this first to prevent painfull experiences). If your printer isn't postscript, then you need something like Dots. This is more complex, and I haven't done it so I won't comment. $an
From: Bob Hoekstra <HOEKSTRA_B@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:34:04 +0100 Organization: Origin IT Message-ID: <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Sitkowski wrote: > ... > I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was > no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Obviously the news didn't reach you! Not true. Refer http://www.cyber.com/papers/plausibility.html -- ----------------------------------------------------- Bob Hoekstra: Unix Consultant Return email: hoekstra_b@cft.philips.nl Home email: bob@khamsin.demon.co.uk -----------------------------------------------------
From: m555@ix.netcom.com (Mark Landin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: PENPAL GREETINGS! (was Re: VIRUS ALERT) Date: 3 Jan 1997 14:30:55 GMT Organization: not organized Message-ID: <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <5a0u8u$ck1@hunter.premier.net> <5agbo5$9me@elle.eunet.no> <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU>, marks@iaccess.COM.AU says... > >I thought after all this time, everyone in the world knew there was >no such thing as a 'unix virus'. Except UNIX. :)
From: Bob Hoekstra <HOEKSTRA_B@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Control: cancel <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 16:42:58 +0100 Organization: Philips Electronics N.V. Message-ID: <32CD2902.7DC9@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> References: <32CD0ACC.746@CFT.PHILIPS.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message was cancelled from within Mozilla.
From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Date: 3 Jan 1997 15:54:11 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: } In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." } <lambertb@uic.edu> writes: } > Hi folks, } > } > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell } > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware } > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? } } Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure } the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard } PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another } concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's } brand/model too. I have to disagree _slightly_... The NEC CDROMS used in some Dell systems have problems with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. If you don't get the NEC CDROM, you are better off (I have tried it with the Mitsumi and the Sony and both of those work fine). We've also had good luck selling off the video cards and getting Matrox Millenium replacements (even make a few bucks in the process). -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: "gerard" <Gerard.A.Heijmen@inter.NL.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Other operating system possible? Date: 3 Jan 1997 16:23:20 GMT Organization: saturn Message-ID: <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.NL.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Got a Cube doing nothing, could somebody tell me if I can load another operating system? Or should I dump the Cube?
From: email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: ADB esc sequence? Date: 3 Jan 1997 17:34:15 GMT Organization: SPC Message-ID: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Hi there, What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? ie: How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? How do I reset the hardware? Thanx -- Raymond Lutz, lutzray@9bit.qc.ca "Les 400 plus fortunes individus de la planete possedent autant que 2.3 MILLIARDS des plus pauvres reunis"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Mike Farnsworth" <mike.farnsworth@pss.boeing.com> Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Message-ID: <01bbf958$93f86b30$a3ac2a82@e815636> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) Organization: The Boeing Company References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:29:44 GMT I, too, am hoping to install on an XPS Pro 200. However, mine has a Matrox Millennium 4 MB, which I hear is good, and a SBAWE32Pnp. Of course, I've got to find a way to buy a copy of either NextStep 3.3 or Openstep 4.1 w/o pouring out $800 for the OS! Mike Farnsworth mfarns@gte.net Bellevue, Washington Rex Dieter <rdieter@math.unl.edu> wrote in article <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu>... > In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." > <lambertb@uic.edu> writes: > > Hi folks, > > > > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? > > Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure > the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard > PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another > concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's > brand/model too. > > -- > Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) > Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ > Mathematics and Statistics > University of Nebraska-Lincoln >
From: ici@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp (Toshinao Ishii) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: 03 Jan 1997 14:50:20 GMT Organization: 3Web internet service Message-ID: <ICI.97Jan3235020@giocoso.osk.threewebnet.or.jp> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> In-reply-to: dchan@dchan.earthlink.net's message of 28 Dec 1996 21:32:25 GMT In article <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> dchan@dchan.earthlink.net (Derek Chan) writes: > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? Don't forget to use the latest serial driver with NXFax. In my case with Microcom V.34ESII, the old (came with CDROM) makes the system hang. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.threewebnet.or.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Mike Farnsworth" <mike.farnsworth@pss.boeing.com> Subject: Re: OpenStep on Dell Dimension XPS Pro? Message-ID: <01bbf961$44c58580$a3ac2a82@e815636> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (NNTP News Access) Organization: The Boeing Company References: <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> <5ahev9$ot4@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:31:56 GMT Robin- I've got an NEC 8x in mine... is this the problem model? Thanks Mike Farnsworth mfarns@gte.net Bellevue, Washington Robin Wilson <robin@pswtech.com> wrote in article <5aja33$att@digdug.pswtech.com>... > rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) wrote: > } In article <5ahaak$1i50@piglet.cc.uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." > } <lambertb@uic.edu> writes: > } > Hi folks, > } > > } > Has anyone had any luck installing and running Openstep 4.1 on Dell > } > Dimension XPS Pro hardware (a 200Mhz Pentium Pro)? Any hardware > } > compatibility issues I should be especially concerned about? > } > } Primarily, the video card is the biggest compatibility concern. Make sure > } the brand/model used by Dell is compatible. Most other items on a standard > } PC these days are ok: EIDE drives, ATAPI CDROM. Networking is another > } concern, if you're on a network, then of course, you'll need to know it's > } brand/model too. > > I have to disagree _slightly_... The NEC CDROMS used in some Dell systems > have problems with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP. If you don't get the NEC CDROM, you > are better off (I have tried it with the Mitsumi and the Sony and both of > those work fine). > > We've also had good luck selling off the video cards and getting Matrox > Millenium replacements (even make a few bucks in the process). > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies > 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy > Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 > (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666 >
From: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:41:33 -0500 Organization: IMMA Inc. Message-ID: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------2A577F9F2A040" ------------2A577F9F2A040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all. I'm fairly new to the world of NeXT computing and need help on upgrading both the hardware and software on my system. I have been given a 68040 NeXTstation Turbo (I think) and would like to upgrade the RAM and disk in it. As well, I would like to get a CDROM for it so that I can take advantage of some of those compilation CDs floating around and upgrade the operating system. Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining the proper RAM/disk/CDROM equipment? Thanks in advance for your time and consideration Cheers Dave Johnston ------------2A577F9F2A040 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT> Hello all.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>I'm fairly new to the world of NeXT computing and need help on upgrading both the hardware and software on my system.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>I have been given a 68040 NeXTstation Turbo (I think) and would like to upgrade the RAM and disk in it. As well, I would like to get a CDROM for it so that I can take advantage of some of those compilation CDs floating around and upgrade the operating system.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Can anyone point me in the right direction for obtaining the proper RAM/disk/CDROM equipment?</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Thanks in advance for your time and consideration</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Cheers</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Dave Johnston</DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------2A577F9F2A040--
From: trail@ix.netcom.com (Jeff Trestrail) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel system hangs upon rebooting Date: Fri, 03 Jan 97 20:31:52 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5ajq1t$p52@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> I have a VLB/EISA Pentium 66 system running NS 3.2 that I installed a Pentium Overdrive 133 cpu in. It seems to run fine, except that it hangs upon powerdown or rebooting, necessitating a complete fsck upon rebooting. Is there anything in particular I can look at to cure this problem ?? Thanks. Jeff Trestrail trail@ix.netcom.com
From: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu (Robert Tan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the current Next hardware? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 15:19:02 -0600 Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham Message-ID: <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> First, I have visited the Next web site for answers to my question and I must say it is really difficult to navigate especially if you don't have too much time. (I also visited the Sun site which is much better but I still cannot find anwers to my questions.) So I hope some kind soul will help me out. 1. (In non-technical terms) what is the difference between Nextstep and Openstep and the difference between Nextstep on Mach and Openstep on Solaris or NT. 2. Are all the hardware on which Nextstep or Openstep are supported on equal standing? In other words would a Sparc user be locked out of certain features or programs that are available only on the Intel platform. Do software publishers always create binaries for Sparc, Intel and Motorola? Is HP no longer supported? 3. I am not clear about whether I can have an autonomous Next system or does NS or OS have to run on top of Solaris or NT. For example on an Intel system can I have NS without ever installing NT. 4. Is it possible to have MAE for Solaris running with Nextstep on a Sparc and therefore have something now that resembles the system that Apple is suppose to deliver in 1998? -- Robert K.-Z. Tan -- E-mail: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu -- Phone: (205)934-0580
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5ajp8a$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:20:07 GMT Control: cancel <5ajp8a$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5ajp8a$i8i@newsfep3.sprintmail.com> Sender: tccs@sprintmail.com Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: CDRMEDIA Original Subject: CD-R Media for Sale
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: SCSI hard drive for the black box Message-ID: <E3G9Ds.CB2@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <erotandiE3Cv54.28B@netcom.com> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:39:28 GMT In article <erotandiE3Cv54.28B@netcom.com> erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) writes: > Hi, > I am a new black box user and I recently got a black box without > any harddrive. (Color Turbo station.) I was wondering what kind > of hard drive can be used? I've been trying to get a Fujitsu 1606 > (non active terminated) 1 gig hard scsi II hard drive and NeXTSTEP > does not seem to like it: > It's complaining that initialization failed. > > Do you need to terminate the internal hardrive? > Yes, of course! The SCSI port of the NeXt models never was terminated of their own. So, the inernal, and the last external device must be terminated. And all hard disks must support SCSI-1, asynch mode. SCSI-2 and/or synch mode will not work (at least not boot). If you got a properly configured drive everything is easy. Just switch on and follow the instructions that pop up on the console. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:16:15 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? Thanks. -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- "Retreat is _not_ an option."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Problem with SCSI CD-ROM and HD Message-ID: <ukvzpyqe6hf.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:31:08 GMT Hi... As long as I'm ina posting mood, i thought I'd see if anyone knew a solution to this. I've got the following setup: NeXT mono black '040 25MHz with a 200 Meg internal HD (terminated), an NEC 3x external CD-rom, and a 1.06 Gig Conner HD external (terminated), such that the Conner is last in the chain, but prior to the CD-ROM w.r.t. SCSI ID. With the CD-ROM turned on, the NeXT refuses to recognize the Conner (A lot of front and back porch errors). I'd like to fix this, but would rather not spring for yet another SCSI-II -> 50-pin or centronics cable. Is this the only solution, or am I just missing something? Thanks, Mark -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono In-Reply-To: allman@pat.mdc.com's message of 3 Jan 1997 21:16:15 GMT Message-ID: <ukvwwtue65r.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:38:08 GMT allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) said: > > Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? > > Thanks. > > -- Mark Allman > -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com > -- "Retreat is _not_ an option." If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). Nota bene: THREE CHIP, 4 MEG SIMMS WILL *NOT* WORK! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: jrudd@cygnus.com (John Rudd) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:39:00 GMT Organization: Cygnus Support Message-ID: <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> References: <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> Cc: tan@neptune.cmc.uab.edu In <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> Robert Tan wrote: > First, I have visited the Next web site for answers to my question and I > must say it is really difficult to navigate especially if you don't have > too much time. (I also visited the Sun site which is much better but I > still cannot find anwers to my questions.) So I hope some kind soul will > help me out. > > 1. (In non-technical terms) what is the difference between Nextstep and > Openstep and the difference between Nextstep on Mach and Openstep on > Solaris or NT. > Unfortunately, you're asking non-trivial questions :-) Nextstep was, originally (back when the Cube was first released) just a reference to the NeXT GUI (and all of its pieces, like the development environment, etc). When the port was made to Intel, Nextstep became a reference to the whole distribution of software -- The kernel, OS, GUI, development environment and tools, included user tools, etc. The Nextstep kernel is Mach 2.5 with NeXT's extensions. The Nextstep OS is BSD 4.3, with 4.4 and NeXT extensions. Nextstep uses a DPS based display model, Objective C based GUI libraries, applications and tools. The Developers libraries and tools are/were rather Nextstep specific.. with all of the threads objects being in the Mach kit, and several issues being BSD or Mach specific. "Openstep" refers to the shift in the programming model to being less Nextstep specific. This allowed the programming environment to be ported to other operating systems. Thus "Openstep for Solaris" is the Nextstep programming environment (and some of the user environement -- window manager, mail, preferences, and editor) running on the Solaris OS and X/DPS display model. "Openstep for Mach" is just the renaming of Nextstep, with the new abstracted programming model in place -- so now, instead of using Mach threads, you use Openstep threads (which hide/abstract the mach threads on Openstep for Mach, but on Openstep for Solaris, they hide/abstract a Solaris based threading mechanism). Openstep is a complete programming model that allows you to do everything used to under Nextsteps programming model, but without depending on the specific operating system and kernel. Hence, there is also an Openstep for Windows NT (and later in 97, a version for Win 95 is planned). Source code is supposed to be 100% compatable between all 3 Openstep platforms (Mach, Solaris, NT), as long as you stick to Openstep mechanisms and libraries (start making NT specific library calls, and you're no longer portable..but you still get the Openstep environment bennefits for your NT project). Openstep requires a DPS display mechanism.. for NT they created one to run on top of the NT display. For Solaris, Openwindows already supported DPS. If that's not non-technical enough... Openstep is the Programming Model, Nextstep is the old name for the OS + Programming Model + User Interface. "Openstep for Mach" is the new name for Nextstep. Openstep for Solaris is the progarmming model and base of the User Interface running on Solaris's Operating System. Openstep for NT is the programming model running on NT's OS and UI (yes, it uses the NT native user interface). > 2. Are all the hardware on which Nextstep or Openstep are supported on > equal standing? In other words would a Sparc user be locked out of certain > features or programs that are available only on the Intel platform. Do > software publishers always create binaries for Sparc, Intel and Motorola? > Is HP no longer supported? > HP is no longer supported. The OS itself is complete between all of the ports. If your system has a sound board, it uses it exactly the same way it would on another hardware platform (the simple beep speaker on a PC doesn't count.. nor does the one on a Sparc 4/100). The only places you should have a user "locked out of cetain features" between hardware ports is if the hardware is missing or doesn't yet have a driver on that platform. The software and OS features are all consistant between hardwares. Some 3rd party (commercial and shareware/freeware) software is only available on Motorola, but that's mostly because it was released before the various other hardwares were even planned, much less supported. Some supports just Motorola and Intel. Some just Motorola, Intel, and HP. All for the same reason -- they were written before all 4 hardwares were supported, and the source wasn't available for compiling later. Only a very few cases was the source not able to be recompiled (see my comment about Archie.app below). To the best of my knowlege, commercial publishers of software have always equally supported all of the platforms, except in a very few special cases. Insignia's SoftPC 4.0 and 4.1 use the native 486+ processor to avoid CPU emulation (it's just doing OS emulation). Thus, those products only ship for NS/Intel. If the authors stuck to Next's libraries and non-architecture specific things, then there wasn't anything that would cause software to not port between the hardware ports of Nextstep/Openstep-for-Mach. However, Archie.app made some unusual deep-to-the-CPU codings that have kept me from making a simple port of it to Sparc.. which is kind of annoying, since I don't want to take the time to find out what is required to port it. ;-) Writing/reading/appending binary files using Unix libraries can bite you here.. because of endian differences between platforms. Instead, stick to the NeXT libraries which have Binary Streams to files... NeXT's libraries all account for endian differences on different hardware. > 3. I am not clear about whether I can have an autonomous Next system or > does NS or OS have to run on top of Solaris or NT. For example on an Intel > system can I have NS without ever installing NT. You can have an autonomous Next system. I have Nextstep on my Sparc at work with no Solaris installed. I have Nextstep on my PC at home. It also has Win95, but the two are not interdependant.. I could delete the Win95 partition and Nextstep would still work. (I have the win95 partition for running games). > 4. Is it possible to have MAE for Solaris running with Nextstep on a Sparc > and therefore have something now that resembles the system that Apple is > suppose to deliver in 1998? Remember, Nextstep is complete Operating System + kernel + GUI. MAE for Solaris runs on the Solaris Operating System, so no... Nextstep/Sparc does not run MAE for Solaris... nor any other Solaris applications. You _CAN_ take a Solaris box, install Openstep for Solaris, and run MAE while using the Openstep Solaris window manager (which looks exactly like, and behaves mostly like, the Nextstep window manager). Or, you can get Nextstep, and find the Executor application from Ardi. Executor is basically the same thing as MAE. I don't know if it runs on Sparc though.. I think it's only available for Motorola and Intel. I don't expect that this would be like the Apple project though. I expect that to be more integrated in its legacy support than "running Mac OS in a window". I think it will at least be something like Softwindows, where Mac apps will run under the root window manager just as though they were native apps. -- John "kzin" Rudd jrudd@cygnus.com (ex- kzin@email.sjsu.edu) =========Intel: Putting the backward in backward compatible.============ Spammers: I charge you for my time, disk, and bandwidth if you post off- topic solicitations for money in the groups I read. $500/post/group.
From: jmh@intrepid.net (Little John) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> Control: cancel <5ahmgp$73c@news3.texas.net> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:28 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5ak188$555@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: Mark Sitkowski <marks@iaccess.COM.AU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Control: cancel <32CCF387.446B9B3D@iaccess.COM.AU> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:40 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5ak18k$556@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: brataas@sn.no (John Brataas) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <5aitlp$jks@elle.eunet.no> Control: cancel <5aitlp$jks@elle.eunet.no> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:46 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5ak18q$557@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: m555@ix.netcom.com (Mark Landin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: cmsg cancel <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <5aj56v$pur@dfw-ixnews9.ix.netcom.com> Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:29:55 GMT Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA Message-ID: <5ak193$559@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> This article canceled.
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: 4 Jan 1997 03:03:08 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5akh9c$3uj@news3.texas.net> References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> <ukvwwtue65r.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups : of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard : to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). : Nota bene: THREE CHIP, 4 MEG SIMMS WILL *NOT* WORK! I've been using 3chip 4mb SIMMs in my non-turbo mono slab for a week now, with no problems whatsoever (no reboots, or anything). The system shows them as 16mb SIMMs when it does the RAM check on powerup, but otherwise works just fine. (4x4mb SIMMs, 16mb total). Putting 32mb in didnt work at first, but I found out that was due to a bad SIMM in the second group of 4. Exchanging them for new ones tomorrow. 8-) (they're 70ns, non-parity). bill Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: 3 Jan 1997 17:07:34 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-0301970905070001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> References: <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <E3FMI2.D6p@cam-ani.co.uk> >Connect it to the serial port. Run printmanager. Select Add printer, and >select the printer. Total doddle - took me five minutes to hook up an >apple lasertwriter. Ok, I've done this before, and it almost worked. I say almost because my printer had a too old version of Postscript and wouldn't print anything, but I got it to blink by printing from the next! ;-) Anyway, is it possible to print to an ethernet printer from nextstep? I'm curious because I've brought my slab into work to do some www perl script testing and I'd like to be able to print from it. Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: bbq@wam.umd.edu (BBQ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: FS:NeXT Cube Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:25:29 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Message-ID: <5akij9$jl7@rac10.wam.umd.edu> Newsgroups: dc.forsale,dc.forsale.computers,um.forsale,balt.forsale Subject: NeXT Cube forsale Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: University of Maryland, College Park Keywords: Cc: I have one NeXT Cube forsale. 16MB RAM 660MB Hard Drive 230Magnetic Optical drive (I believe, don't know if it works though) 17" megapixel monitor, I don't know what they sold it as, the standard greyscale monitor Keyboard and mouse Currently has the OS loaded and running, though I don't have the disks SCSI,Ethernet,etc on the back of course I also have the NeXT laser printer that goes with this. 400DPI. The print output is great with the toner I tested in it, but it needs a new one. And the paper loading is slightly stiff, just needs a little work, but works I am asking $1000, but I am definitely open to offers. bbq
From: "Yoni Livne" <livne@netvision.net.il> Newsgroups: comp.sys.imb.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hardwarecomp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.hardwarePowerBook,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.pc.hardware Subject: Click me. Date: 4 Jan 1997 16:32:16 GMT Organization: NetVision LTD. Message-ID: <01baecd4$e97830e0$df0b5ac2@LivneFam.netvision.net.il> Hi, I'm looking for an external IDE Hard-Drive case (connected through a parallel port) I've seen: - Anteck ks510 ~ $80 - Nexar removable HD cady ~ $30 - Circo removable HD kit ~ $30 1. Can anybody tell me which one is the best for me (I'm going to use it for data transfer from my home PC to another one at work). 2. Why is there a $50 difference (between the Anteck and the other 2), and what does it mean? Tanks in advance, waiting for a reply... Jonathan Livne. P.S. Please reply to: *****----------- livne@netvision.net.il -----------*****
From: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:55:16 -0500 Organization: IMMA Inc. Message-ID: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> References: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------ADF7EFC48800" ------------ADF7EFC48800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm back with an update. After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP. Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots with eight 1 MB simms installed. I'm really not sure how to procede. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. cheers Dave Johnston ------------ADF7EFC48800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT>I'm back with an update.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots with eight 1 MB simms installed. I'm really not sure how to procede.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>cheers</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Dave Johnston</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT> </DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------ADF7EFC48800--
From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NXFax which modems? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:15:08 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32CEC85C.2B92@onramp.net> References: <5a43l9$t31@belize.it.earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Derek Chan <dchan@dchan.earthlink.net> Derek Chan wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm in need for some suggestions for a good 28.8/33.4 modem. The modem has > to work with NXFax. I've been thinking of getting the US Robotics > V.Everything but, have heard that US Robitics modems don't work with NXFax (I > couldn't get a 28.8 USR Sportster to work but, maybe the V.Everything will > work). Can anyone recommend anything? > > Thanks. > > -- > dchan@earthlink.net | NeXTmail or MIMEmail welcome. I have a courier V.everything I will go home tonight and try it out. Look for my post in a day or two. Brian
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 03:59:30 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.961231035613.31623A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <jak-ya023680003012961534300001@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <jak-ya023680003012961534300001@news.asu.edu> On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, John Kestner wrote: > > Do any of the black NeXT color monitors have the same cool stand the mono > monitors do? Do all the mono monitors have that stand? (I'm referring to > the original stand.) I presume you mean the cool rolling stand. The answer is no. This is because the colour screens were all manufactured by other companies for NeXT. Only the MegaPixel screens were made in-house. Also, later MegaPixels (model N4000B) have a more streamlined tilting base that still looks pretty cool (but does not have the ribs or rubber rollers). -Isaac
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:29:39 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000401971729390001@news.tiac.net> References: <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com>, jrudd@cygnus.com answered your question in heroic style. But there are a couple of points to add: In its later 3.X versions, NS ran on Motorola, Intel, Sparc and HP machines, offering Mach 2.5, the NS GUI and user/development environments. This required booting under a NeXT OS, ie, not DOS/Win95/SunOS etc. There was a substantial 3rd party ensemble of applications, still available. In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which machines other than Motorola they run on. All 3.X apps run on these machines. Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. A good many 3.X NS apps are controlled by Lighthouse, a Sun subsidiary now, which presumably will port them to Sun's version of OS. Hope I got that right! Barney
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 17:40:08 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000401971740080001@news.tiac.net> References: <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> <E3FMI2.D6p@cam-ani.co.uk> <joel-0301970905070001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <joel-0301970905070001@mfs-annex1-p31.dsphere.net>, joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) wrote: > Anyway, is it possible to print to an ethernet printer from nextstep? I'm > curious because I've brought my slab into work to do some www perl script > testing and I'd like to be able to print from it. Sure is, if its a real ethernet (vs Appletalk or AT via EN bridge) printer. The printer has to have an EN host on its adapter card. These cost $300-400 per card. Also, a PS RIP. Barney
From: Steven Doyle <s.doyle@cowan.edu.au> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [q] Ne2000 ethernet card in Nextstep 3.3 for Intel Date: 5 Jan 97 01:04:57 GMT Organization: Edith Cowan University Distribution: world Message-ID: <32cefe39.0@hawk.ois.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi All! Managed to install Nextstep 3.3 okay on a INtel machine, yet I can't find a driver for a NE2000 Ethernet card, the only one on the next is for 3.2 and is in japanese. Is there a driver out there somewhere or is it easier to buy a supported ethernet card??? I can't find anyone in Australia who uses Next to bug them about this :-( Thanks! Steve s.doyle@cowan.edu.au
From: mycroft@nntp.best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" Megapixel Color with Mac? Date: 5 Jan 1997 02:53:09 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5an52l$9l9@nntp1.best.com> Hello people. I have a ColorStation with a Hitachi 21" display and was wondering if there is any known way to get that monitor to work with a macintosh. I've looked on the Griffin Technologies home page (http://www.nashville.net/~griffin/) for this particular display but have been able to find nothing. Has anyone tried it and gotten it to work? -- alex currier | Reactiveware - Clothing for the 22nd Century mycroft@best.com | www.reactiveware.com
From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions on P166 machine for NS? Date: 30 Dec 1996 21:59:18 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Message-ID: <5a9dvm$cvn@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> References: <1996Dec30.163344.8386@schbbs.mot.com> frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com wrote: >Anybody have any suggestions on a Pentium 166 MHz machine >for running Nextstep. I would like to spend around $5K >for a machine. My needs are more toward CPU power than >graphics power. I would like to get a machine that is >fairly good quality (reliable). I have been VERY pleased with my Pentium 166 system from Bifrost (http://www.bifrostworks.com/). They will build you a very nice machine for under $5k (including excellent graphics power). Cheers, Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "John Stiening" <jmstieni@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: NextStation Ethernet problem. Message-ID: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:50:03 GMT I have come across a NextStation Turbo, which I would like to pick up. Unfortunately, the machine fails to complete the boot process. Initially I start the machine booting by using the command "b sd". All works fine until the machine attempts to find the network. The computer then continuously attempts to find some phantom server on the network. Is there a way I can disable the network functions, or maybe to get the machine to boot without initializing any of the network parameters? If you could reply by email I would appreciate it. thanks, john "jmstieni@midway.uchicago.edu"
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ADB esc sequence? Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:58:34 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970104055552.19704A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Raymond Lutz <lutzray@9bit.qc.ca> In-Reply-To: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> On 3 Jan 1997, Raymond Lutz wrote: > What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? > > How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? Command-LeftAlternate-` -Isaac
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for NeXTstation mono Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:00:50 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970104055915.19704B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5ajsuv$djg@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> <ukvwwtue65r.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <ukvwwtue65r.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> On Fri, 3 Jan 1997 fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: > > Quick check: it's 72 PIN non-EDO, right (e.g., 32MB 72 PIN 8X32-70)? > > If it's non-turbo black slab-esque, it's 30-pin, 70ns or slower, in groups > of four 1 or 4 meg, 1x8,1x9,4x8, or 4x9 SIMMs. And they're damned hard > to come by (the 4 meggers) at decent prices (i.e., $30/stick or less). Well, if it's a more recent 25 Mhz station, it may indeed use 72-pin SIMMs (mine does). In that case, the original poster is correct. -Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu Subject: HELP: Find ljf? Message-ID: <ukv9168nnyr.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Sender: fugue@dura.spc.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:25:32 GMT Hi... I'm trying to find either Bert Lindgren, <gt8855a@prism.gatech.edu>, or a copy of ljf, whichever comes first. Looks as though Bert has left GA Tech. Does anyone know where to find him, or his HP LaserJet program, jlf? Thanks! -- fugue "The police used to watch over the people. Now they're watching the people."
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ? NeXT monitor - IBM machine ? Date: 5 Jan 1997 15:33:27 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aohk7$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> How do get a NeXTstation Turbo Color Monitor to work with an IBM compatible computer? Thank you, Andrew
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ? "BEST" small hard drive ? Date: 5 Jan 1997 15:40:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> I am a computer novice and much of the talk on hard drives (hd) is over my head. What I want is a hd recommendation for a NeXTstation Color Turbo ADB with the following properties: 1 Fast 2 Quite 3 Small (about 660Mb) 4 Cool (I've heard a lot about over heating) 5 Compatible Names and modle numbers would be greatly apreciated. Thank you, Andrew
From: jbf@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: frivolous monitor question Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:07:34 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf-ya023580000501971207340001@news.tiac.net> References: <jak-ya023680003012961534300001@news.asu.edu> <Pine.LNX.3.95.961231035613.31623A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.961231035613.31623A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu>, Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> wrote: > On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, John Kestner wrote: > I presume you mean the cool rolling stand. The answer is no. This is > because the colour screens were all manufactured by other companies for > NeXT. Only the MegaPixel screens were made in-house. Ummh. My info, from an in-house tech who'd taken the NeXT repair course, is that the black monitors were actually made (and repaired) by Sony. Barney
From: veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 5 Jan 1997 17:59:37 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <5aoq69$1c5@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this problem still there? TIA
From: jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Advice wanted: Mac user -> NeXT beginner Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 12:37:50 -0700 Organization: Arizona State University Message-ID: <jak-ya023680000501971237500001@news.asu.edu> References: <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <1997Jan1.053634.25171@seer.demon.co.uk>, Paul_Lynch@griffin.plsys.co.uk wrote: >In article <32C91B53.16F9@snsnet.net> "Jonathan D. Nolen" ><nolen@snsnet.net> writes: >> Are the older NeXT machines ethernet capable out of the box, or >> do they require more hardware, like a NIC? I know that NeXT can mount >> Mac drives from an appletalk network, but can a Mac mount NeXT drives? > >They all have ethernet. Not all systems support AppleTalk; those that do >support the ethernet variety only, and can't act as a server. You can buy >IPT Partner for other systems. Which systems do support AppleTalk? How much does Partner cost? thanks john --- - ------- ------- And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables. - The Tick jak@asu.edu http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Message-ID: <E3JMwD.Cv3@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:24:12 GMT In article <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> writes: > I'm back with an update. > > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin > simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of > the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade through an ASP. > It is a early version, indeed. But you can do as much to it as you can do to later versions, only that some components are somewhat harder to come by. > Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade > themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact > I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This > might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. > Yes, I've done it, and I'm sure many more but me. > Also, when I used the ROM monitor, it tells me that I have 16 simm slots > with eight 1 MB simms installed. I'm really not sure how to procede. > Obviously, you got a rather erly ROM version that was meant for the cube, primarily. The 8 30pin SIMM slots are main memory (1M or 4M x 8 or 9, 100ns or better) in two banks of four each. Bank 0 is next to the power supply and needs to hold the larger portion of the memory, in case of mixed setups. The single 72pin slot is expansion memory for the DSP. And, of course, all this, and more, is covered in the FAQ on Peanuts. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: flinn@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Flinn) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundBlaster16: is this problem unique? Date: 5 Jan 1997 14:33:03 -0800 Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada Message-ID: <5apa6v$fcu@cascade.cs.ubc.ca> Keywords: SoundBlaster, sound card I have a Plug-n-Play SoundBlaster16 card in my relatively new Pentium/PCI system running NS 3.3. I know that a lot of people have trouble getting this card to work, but I haven't heard mention of the problems I am experiencing. If your experience differs from mine, I would greatly appreciate a brief reply or follow-up to that effect. All of the NeXT-supplied drivers have produced the same results (the current version 3.34 in all four flavours: PnP or not, 8 or 16 bit DMA, and the previous version (3.33?)). Namely, everything seems to work fine (although I haven't tried recording), but I frequently get catastrophic system freezes -- everything just locks up (including the getty on my serial port) and a hard reset is required (followed by the obligatory ten minutes of fsck torturing my disk). The card has been thoroughly tested from Windows 95, where its configuration is shown to be: IRQ 5, DMA 1, 5, I/O Range 0220-022F 0330-0331 0388-038B. These same settings on the NS side allow sounds to be generated correctly, but lead to the system freezing. The other strange problem is that when I have the ISA/EISA bus driver (version 3.35) set to enable Plug-n-Play, the card appears to be detected at system initialization time, but the driver fails to detect it and does not load properly (even with the PnP version of the SB driver v3.34). I have to disable PnP for the NeXT supplied driver to work. The only configuration I have had any success with is the driver written by Amir Guindehi (version 2.01), although I have to use the "Classic" setting. (Enabling PnP in the ISA/EISA driver causes this driver to hang when it loads.) It works, but I don't get 16 bit sounds, volume control, simultaneous sounds (one must finish before the next starts), and play-through of audio CD's seems to work only once for every ten or so system (re)starts. I have never had any of the "hardware reset" problems that version 3.34 of the driver fixed for non-PnP cards. Any ideas? Scott
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: ADB esc sequence? Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 23:22:46 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <5apd4o$qfr@news.wco.com> References: <5ajfun$7nq@wagner.spc.videotron.ca> email@end.of.post (Raymond Lutz) wrote: >Hi there, >What are the escape key combinations for ADB keayboards? >How do I access the NMI Mini-Monitor? Hold down both the Left ALT key and the Command Bar, and press the ~ (tilde) key WITHOUT pressing the shift key. >How do I reset the hardware? Hold down both the Left ALT key and the Command Bar, and press the * key on the numeric keypad. Note that this is a hard reset, and does not result in a clean shutdown. Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <RayEhrlich@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 22:18:16 +0500 Organization: Internet Knowledge Bank Message-ID: <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> References: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: John Stiening <jmstieni@midway.uchicago.edu> I have a similar problem with one of my NeXT Stations. Do not know how to boot it because it is looking for a network component. Also I can not get into single user mode, only ROM monitor and NMI. Help.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701051707.MAA18795@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6062bb9e93e5255a3653da18e7830c5c - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 97 12:07:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 6062bb9e93e5255a3653da18e7830c5c - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> Original Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:55:16 -0500 > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 > pin simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must > be one of the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though > and ASP. That 72pin slot if dor the DSP, you'll probably never use it Someone else has probably mentioned this by now TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
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From: squig@interlog.com (Matt Drnovscek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 19:12:52 GMT Organization: InterLog Internet Services Message-ID: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? any info is much appreciated please respond to this newsgroup or email me at squig@computersystems.on.ca squig@interlog.com Many Thanks, Matt Drnovscek squig@interlog.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Other operating system possible? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3KM98.KtD@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:07:56 GMT References: <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.nl.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bbf98a$0a7d2f80$5cff4fc1@gheijmen.inter.nl.net>, gerard <Gerard.A.Heijmen@inter.NL.net> wrote: >Got a Cube doing nothing, could somebody tell me if I can load another >operating system? Or should I dump the Cube? > Someone was talking about porting FreeBSD, but I have no idea how much work's been done. There's a Plan 9 port, if you're into that sort of thing. Otherwise, advertise away on c.s.n.marketplace. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3KMKn.KzE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:14:47 GMT References: <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jbf-ya023580000401971729390001@news.tiac.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <jbf-ya023580000401971729390001@news.tiac.net>, James B. Frazer <jbf@frazer.com> wrote: >In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which >machines other than Motorola they run on. 4.x runs on Motorola, Sparc, and Intel (as of 4.1). >All 3.X apps run on these machines. >Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI >and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. Create 4.0 is out for OPENSTEP (Solaris, NT, and Mach). Very nice drawing app (from Stone Design). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ? "BEST" small hard drive ? Date: 6 Jan 1997 07:48:57 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5aqap9$rr4@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> In-Reply-To: <5aoi15$5g8@cocoa.brown.edu> On 01/04/97, Andrew Jones wrote: >I am a computer novice and much of the talk on hard drives (hd) is >over my head. What I want is a hd recommendation for a NeXTstation >Color Turbo ADB with the following properties: > >1 Fast >2 Quite >3 Small (about 660Mb) >4 Cool (I've heard a lot about over heating) >5 Compatible > >Names and modle numbers would be greatly apreciated. I just put a Seagate Medalist 1080SL (ST51080N) drive in my "new" NeXTstation Turbo color and it works great. (1.08 GB, 12.5 ms seek, 128K cache, 5400 RPM) It's not the fastest drive around but it's a decent match for the capabilities of the older SCSI interface on NeXT hardware. I haven't benchmarked it yet so I can't give you any exact figures. The best thing is that it's TINY: this thing is like 1/2" tall. I think there's enough room that you could stack another LP (1") drive ron top of it and still get the case on a slab. It also seems to run cool and is inaudible while idling - seeks are a bit noiser. - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
From: cwolf@wolfware.com (Christopher Wolf) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 6 Jan 1997 07:52:38 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> In-Reply-To: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> On 01/05/97, Matt Drnovscek wrote: >Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support >an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d >hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) > >Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? A friend of mine recently tried getting an ATI 3D Pro (Rage II) card working under OpenStep 4.1/Mach using the Mach64 drivers and was unable to do so. - Chris -- __________________________________________________ Christopher A. Wolf - NeXTStep/OpenStep Developer Mail: cwolf@wolfware.com Web: http://www.wolfware.com/cwolf/cwolf.shtml __________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: pwalter@mediahaus.de (Piers Uso Walter) Subject: No sound output by SB16PnP Message-ID: <E3KEqv.6AJ@mediahaus.de> Sender: news@mediahaus.de (News System) Organization: Mediahaus Stroebel in Duesseldorf (Germany) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:25:43 GMT I'm trying to use a SoundBlaster 16 Value PnP with NEXTSTEP 3.3. After having installed all necessary drivers (ISA/EISA v3.35, enabling Plug and Play support, and SoundBlaster 16PnP v3.34), the system seems to detect the card: Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: PnP: configuring Creative SB16 PnP Audio Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: SoundBlaster16 hardware version is 4.13 Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: SoundBlaster16 at dma channels 1 and 5 irq 5 Jan 6 03:12:36 iq-06 mach: Registering: SoundBlaster16 Unfortunately, however, I cannot produce any sound output under NEXTSTEP (I've got no problems under DOS, so I know the hardware and cabling are OK). Of course, I checked my preferences and made sure the speakers aren't muted. Does anybody have any idea what could be wrong? Regards, Piers Uso Walter ilink GmbH piers@iqweb.de
From: kcd@babylon5.jumpgate.com (Kenneth C. Dyke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compatibility of ATI 3D rage video on NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP Date: 6 Jan 1997 08:41:35 GMT Organization: Best Internet Communications Message-ID: <5aqdrv$fl@nntp1.best.com> References: <5aq7k8$3r3@news.interlog.com> <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> In-Reply-To: <5aqb06$s0v@nntp1.best.com> On 01/05/97, Christopher Wolf wrote: >On 01/05/97, Matt Drnovscek wrote: >>Does anybody know if the Mach 64 based video driver for openstep will support >>an ATI 3Drage based video card (which is supposedly a mach64 chip with 3d >>hardware bolted onto it .. under WinNT this works) >> >>Or does anybody know if a 3d rage driver is in the works?? > >A friend of mine recently tried getting an ATI 3D Pro (Rage II) card working >under OpenStep 4.1/Mach using the Mach64 drivers and was unable to do so. That being me. ;) The driver complained that it was unable to find the ATI BIOS at startup. The PCI autodetect id stuff matched the card, but obviously something else is making the driver unhappy. I'd offer to give a card to NeXT to make it work but I decided to return it today. :-\ -Ken
From: squig@interlog.com (Matt Drnovscek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody know where to buy a used Next (Black hardware) In Toronto Date: Sun, 05 Jan 97 20:41:15 GMT Organization: InterLog Internet Services Message-ID: <5aqcps$7bb@news.interlog.com> Does anybody know of anybody selling used 040 Color next hardware in Toronto Ontario, Canada? Please send email me at: squig@interlog.com or squig@computersystems.on.ca Many thanks, Matt Drnovscek
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help with upgrading a NeXTstation.. Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 17:47:32 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970104174145.26261B-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <32CD60EC.C7B@imma.org> <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> In-Reply-To: <32CEC3B3.767C@imma.org> On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Dave Johnston wrote: > After opening up my NeXTstation I have found that it has eight 30 pin > simm slots and one 72 pin simm slot. I guess this system must be one of > the first NeXTstations that require memory upgrade though and ASP. > > Has anyone out there come across this and done the memory upgrade > themselves? Can you use both types of simms in this machine? If in fact > I need to take it in for service, are there any NeXT ASPs around? This > might be even more problematic as I live in Canada, near Toronto. You needn't take it in for service! You simply need to use 4 meg, 30 pin, 70ns SIMMs. Some people have reported problems with 3-chip SIMMs, so you might want to steer clear of those. The 72 pin SIMM slot is for a DSP memory upgrade. Just ignore it. The NeXT is more sensitive to memory timing than many other machines. You'll ideally want simms from the same batch. And, of course, you need to add them in groups of 4, up to a maximum of 32 megs (I believe, not sure if this is the limit for 30-pin models). Hope this helps, -Isaac
From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT MegaPixel 21" > Mac Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:48:02 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <rr-0601971548020001@ztm05-24.dial.xs4all.nl> Hi, Is it possible to get my NeXT monitor ( MegaPixel 21" color) working with say a Perfoma 6400 ? Can this be done ? please reply at this email adress; rr@xs4all.nl rodney
From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:02:10 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <5arb6i$v5b@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <5aoq69$1c5@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: } Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? } I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work } reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this } problem still there? } } TIA Everything works at 57.6Kbps for me. I wish they'd bump to 115.2Kbps though. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: jamesl@io.com (James Lee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to best learn NeXT Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:26:30 GMT Sender: jamesl@jamesl.sirs.com Message-ID: <jamesl-0601971227330001@jamesl.sirs.com> Soliciting recommendations on how to best learn NeXT. Considering buying a NeXTstation 68040/16 for $379 used. Is that a good deal? Is it a good place to start? Please copy me via email. Thanks- Jim Lee __________________________________________________________________ jamesl@io.com
From: veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial port driver on White Hardware Date: 6 Jan 1997 19:19:26 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <5arj7u$coi@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> Robin Wilson (robin@pswtech.com) wrote: : veakblad@Glue.umd.edu (David T. Wang) wrote: : } Did NeXT ever fix the broken serial port drivers on X86 hardware? : } I remember having to jump through hoops to get a 14.4 modem work : } reliably with NSFIP. Is that just a bad memory now, or is this : } problem still there? : } : } TIA : Everything works at 57.6Kbps for me. I wish they'd bump to 115.2Kbps though. What version? running on X86 hardware? : -- : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- : Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies : 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy : Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 : (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the current Next hardware? Date: 6 Jan 1997 21:01:47 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5arp7r$b4a@news.digifix.com> References: <tan-0301971519020001@138.26.45.218> <5ak1q4$s76@majipoor.cygnus.com> <jbf-ya023580000401971729390001@news.tiac.net> <E3KMKn.KzE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <E3KMKn.KzE@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 01/05/97, David Evans wrote: >In article <jbf-ya023580000401971729390001@news.tiac.net>, >James B. Frazer <jbf@frazer.com> wrote: >>In 4.X, NS still offers some Mach based options, but I'm not sure which >>machines other than Motorola they run on. > > 4.x runs on Motorola, Sparc, and Intel (as of 4.1). > >>All 3.X apps run on these machines. >>Sun also offers an OS version which runs under Solaris. OS includes the GUI >>and some user/developer tools, but no 3rd party apps to date. > > Create 4.0 is out for OPENSTEP (Solaris, NT, and Mach). Very nice drawing >app (from Stone Design). Yes, and Stone announced today intentions to get a MacOS version out the door. They'll probably have a shipping native drawing package before anyone else on the new OS. Nice that its so very cool too. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Bootup problems Date: 6 Jan 1997 21:20:12 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Summary: Hangs during 'starting file service daemons'--tips? Keywords: Bootup problems Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for solving this? Thanks. Tom Payne -- Thomas Payne, MD Clinical Computing Project Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle
From: "Sam.Chow" <Sam.Chow@prodigy.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which NeXT h/w has ISDN Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 23:10:13 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet Message-ID: <32D1CCA5.5479@prodigy.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Netters, I remember that one of the NeXT hardware model actually has an ISDN port at the back and I am wondering which model is that? Also, has anyone have any good/bad experience in using the ISDN port to contect to an ISP for fast internet access? Any info to share with the newsgroup would be great. Thanks in advance. Regards, Samuel Chow
From: spdwell@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WTB NeXT color Cube or Station Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 22:23:36 -0800 Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <spdwell-0601972223360001@adnline24043.adnc.com> I'm still looking for a color Cube or Station. Also looking for any NeXT accessories or neat items.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com Subject: NS on Compaq Deskpro 6000? Organization: MOTOROLA Distribution: usa Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:35:23 GMT Message-ID: <1997Jan6.233523.22022@schbbs.mot.com> Sender: news@schbbs.mot.com (SCHBBS News Account) Has anyone had any luck running NS 3.3 on a Compaq Deskpro 6000? In particular, I was looking at a 6180. - Thanks, Mark frank_m@jupiter.sat.mot.com
From: Dale Pippert <dpippert@taratec.com> Organization: Taratec Development Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black Printers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32d28463.0@news.dca.net> Date: 7 Jan 97 17:14:11 GMT My black printer has recently started jamming pages. It is not the ejection problem as discussed in NeXTAnswers - the page gets about 2 or 3 inches in, then is stuck. It's like the second roller is not picking it up. Is there anywhere a person can have a chance of getting these serviced, being that most shops won't have a NeXT computer laying around to test it with? Where is the cover switch that I might be able to disable, so that I can see inside while it is printing. Much thanks! dpippert@taratec.com Dale
From: allman@pat.mdc.com (Mark Allman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Max. memory question -- NeXTstation non-turbo Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:03:16 GMT Organization: McDonnell Douglas, Houston Division Message-ID: <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> My NeXTstation (mono non-turbo) has eight slots and uses 30-pin memory simms. Question to all of you that have had the resources to try this: What would happen if I put, say, 4 4-meg simms and 4 16-meg simms? Or 8 16-meg simms? I've seen "maximum memory" numbers quoted, but often times these numbers are just "8 * (maximum simm size currently available)." -- Mark Allman -- Sr. Engineer, McDonnell Douglas Aerospace, allman@pat.mdc.com -- Software consulting (Perl, C, Python, ...), ghost@ghost.neosoft.com -- (see: http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5857.html)
From: asmash@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Adam Smash) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Adjusting 21" color monitor Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:22:25 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5aueqh$793@netnews.upenn.edu> Hello all, I made the unfortunate mistake of attempting to adjust my 21" color monitor via the recessed controls underneath the back cover. Anyone have any ideas how I can get it back to the stock settings? -adam
From: asmash@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Adam Smash) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP memory Date: 7 Jan 1997 21:25:24 GMT Organization: University of Pennsylvania Message-ID: <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu> What benefits will I get by added memory to the DSP memory slot? I'm using the sound manipulation program SoundWorks with a DigitalEars box interfaced thru the DSP port. What type of memory is used in the DSP memory slot? Can I use the same memory SIMMs as the normal 72pin SIMMS in a Turbo or Color? -adam
From: fh@crosslink.net () Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HelpPlz..ASUS MB Date: 8 Jan 1997 01:30:17 GMT Organization: CrossLink Internet Services Message-ID: <5autb9$t8g$1@kronos.crosslink.net> NNTP-Posting-User: fh Hi... I've gone through a tough one trying to get an ASUS P6NP5 motherboard going with NS.. It's a 200Mhz Pent. Pro with a Natoma Chipset.... The board works fine with Windoze but with NS, any mouse (both internal PS2 and serial) as well as other serials ports fail... NS checks out fine with a 90 Mhz Pentium. Mouse driver is up to date with the latest Serial Pointing Device as well as the the new Serial Port drivers. I've been told that the Asus P6NP5/200 is supposed to work out of the box... Anyone else get one working??? I'll be grateful for any input or advice... thanks! -- Ted --- \ o / _ o __| \ / |__ o _ \ o / o | /\ __\o \o | o/ o/__ /\ | /|\ ../.\...|.\../).|....(.\../o\../.)....|..(\../.|.../.\.../.\. Ted Okada <ted@fh.org> | http://www.fh.org/ Director | gopher://gopher.fh.org Washington D.C. Bureau | ftp://ftp.fh.org Food For The Hungry | ytalk:fh@shell.crosslink.net Help Africa's Children--Call Food For The Hungry 1-800-2HUNGER ---
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: memory in 040 cube Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:16:51 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as 1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? I'm baffled! ~:O Stephen
From: "Magne J鴕gensen" <magne.jorgensen@ostfoldnett.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:38:38 GMT Organization: MBS Fjerndata Message-ID: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 diagnostics: not found load failed blk0boot: I have mounted the HD as external on a other macine of the same kind. The first time i started up, I got the message that it had to be repaired, and so the machine did it. Later the disk came up. And that it did whit the next reboot also. But it does not bott up the Next were it belongs to. Does you know what this can be, so please help me to fix it. mjorgens@ostfoldnett.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Max. memory question -- NeXTstation non-turbo Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3o0sJ.Got@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:14:43 GMT References: <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5au354$l23@cisu2.jsc.nasa.gov>, Mark Allman <allman@pat.mdc.com> wrote: >My NeXTstation (mono non-turbo) has eight slots and uses 30-pin >memory simms. Question to all of you that have had the resources >to try this: > What would happen if I put, say, 4 4-meg simms and 4 16-meg > simms? Or 8 16-meg simms? > The largest SIMM size you can use is 4MB, making the maximum capacity 32MB. If you put 16MB SIMMs in my guess is they'll either not be recognised, or be treated as 4MB SIMMs. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Wacom ArtZ Tablet on Black hardware Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:41:28 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970108153900.KAA06197@ladder01.news.aol.com> I've attached my Wacom ArtZ tablet (PC version) to my Cube, and tried running the supplied installation App--no luck. The system will respond when I press the pen to the tablet, but it instantly moves the cursor to the upper left corner and then simulates erratic mouse clicks for a brief time. Wacom tech support sent me an overlay for the tablet, which apparently is part of a menu system to set the tablet to a mode which the NeXT will recognize--no instructions though (these were out of a manual for an ArtZ II). Can anyone provide any hints or pointers? The only drivers which I've been able to find are for Intel hardware. William William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: narendra@shiva.nrl.navy.mil (Narendra Batra) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Adding another Hard Drive Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:44:28 GMT Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, Washington, DC Message-ID: <5b0fcs$pp1$1@ra.nrl.navy.mil> At present I have a an IBM clone Pentium 90 multimedia( 1Gb HD Scsi Fujitsu, 48Mb Ram). I had partitioned it, 600 Mb for next step and 400 Mb for windows 95 and applications. Everything works fine and has worked fine for 2 years. Now I want to (1) add another SCSI hard drive 2.1 Gb Seagate and use this newly added hard disk exclusively for windows and also make this as a boot drive ( i.e. SCSI ID 00) and want to transfer all the windows data ( about 339 Mb) from Fujitsu to it. (2) Use Fujitsu 1GB ( SCSI ID 01) only for next step, i.e. remove the DOS partition without losing the existing next step data. By the way I am using NCR SCSI -2 card which works fine for Next step. If any one has experience in doing the above, I would greatly appreciate their input. Thanks a lot for your assistance and input to avoid pitfalls in modifying my hardware. Thanks a lot for your input. Sincerely , Narendra
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: abosse@midway.uchicago.edu (arno bosse) Subject: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver Message-ID: <E3p9q3.Crp@midway.uchicago.edu> Summary: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver Keywords: Number Nine Series 2 beta driver Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:25:15 GMT Hi, Does anyone have any experience with using the beta driver for this card? Specifically, Driver: Number Nine Imagine128 Series 2 Driver Overview: NeXTanswer #2489 and the (newer?) beta under NA# 2488. Is this driver still under development? Are there plans to finish it? Is the beta driver usable 'as is'? many thanks in advance, Arno Bosse Academic Computing Services Univ. of Chicago
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: memory in 040 cube Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3p5Cz.LEq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:59 GMT References: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu>, Stephen Johnson <stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu> wrote: >In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add >another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb >simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as >1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom >monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? I've stuffed a cube full with 16 4MB SIMMs with no prolems. Perhaps the SIMM sockets are damaged? -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3p5Gq.uu@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:53:14 GMT References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens>, Magne Jxrgensen <magne.jorgensen@ostfoldnett.no> wrote: > >I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( >When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > >boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics The boot command is messed up--you want to boot sdmach, not diagnostics. Could be that the battery on the CPU board is dead, in which case you should replace it (open the box, take out old battery, take it to a camera store and get a new one just like it). Then use the "p" command to get at the ROM monitor configuration. Set the boot command to sd(0,0,0)sdmach and you should be OK. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: DSP memory Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3p5BL.ons@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:09 GMT References: <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5auf04$793@netnews.upenn.edu>, Adam Smash <asmash@mail2.sas.upenn.edu> wrote: >What benefits will I get by added memory to the DSP memory slot? I'm >using the sound manipulation program SoundWorks with a DigitalEars box >interfaced thru the DSP port. > If the software supports the DSP board you're using (as I recall, the one from NeXT is different from the one from CCRMA) then you can typically create more memory-hungry unit generators. >What type of memory is used in the DSP memory slot? Can I use the same >memory SIMMs as the normal 72pin SIMMS in a Turbo or Color? > It's a special board that's pretty much impossible to find. There was one from NeXT (obviously no longer made) and one from CCRMA (no longer made). There might have been a third too. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Sumair Mitroo <sumair@macroi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable for NeXT cube Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 14:10:58 -0500 Organization: CISNet, Inc. Message-ID: <32D3F142.771@macroi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Needed for a NeXT 040 Cube: I have a defective cable (which goes between the monitor and the cube). I am interested in purchasing this cable if anyone out there has one. Sumair Tel. 330-399-1990 sumair@macroi.com
From: Mark_Bessey@next.com (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:23:13 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5b0s71$3dj@news.next.com> References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> "Magne J rgensen" <magne.jorgensen@ostfoldnett.no> writes > > I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( > When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > > boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics > booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics > Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 > diagnostics: not found > load failed > > blk0boot: > Check the ROM monitor settings. You probably have the "run extended diagnostics" option set to YES. The system will not boot with this option set. Use the "p" command in the ROM monitor to adjust the system boot options. -- Mark Bessey NeXT Software, Inc Software Quality Assurance -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR NeXT <--
From: bff@icarus (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 19:39:42 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Message-ID: <5b0t5u$g88@news-2.csn.net> I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except that the system only reports half of the drive available. It reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports only one Gig. What gives? Thanks, Brendan
From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Questions about turbocolor Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:56:26 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <yblock-0801971356270001@10.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> Hi, I just got my Turbo Color. It is beatiful!!!. I have some questions for you guys: * It came without hard disk. I am thinking to buy an *internal* hard disk between 1.6 and 2.0 g. Does anyone can give an advise with this?? (Where to get it, price, speed, etc). * What kind of modem I can use with my turbo?? - I have a SupraExpress 288 Pnp for PC, a USRobotic 14.4 for Mac and a ISDN Motorola BitSURFER PRO for Mac.( I have an ISDN line ) Well those are my questions for now, but I am sure I will be asking more. ;-) Thank you for your advises!!! York P. Block ps. NeXT UI is better than Mac UI. However, a good combination of both would be even better!!! ;-)
From: dwy@ace.net (David Young) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 20:53:27 GMT Organization: ace dot net internet technologies Message-ID: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> References: <5b0t5u$g88@news-2.csn.net> Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports : only one Gig. Irritating, isn't it? During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. -- # david young: oo developer, think new ideas east/onramp # vox: 212.629.6800 x170 phax: 212.629.6850 # net: david_young@thinkinc.com (MIME ok, NeXTmail better)
From: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! - My Cube is dead... Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:37 -0800 Organization: USF InfoTech Message-ID: <david-0801971317370001@tiggr.usfca.edu> so, I hooked up my floppy drive and my cd-rom drive to my cube after christmas 'coz I wanted to upgrade to ns 3.2 - but the machine wouldn't boot. eventually, I unhook everything and the machine boots, but never gets past "Mounting Remote Filesystems" (of which there are none to mount). So, I boot off the OD, and find problems with the internal 330Mb drive. my question is this: do I have to do anything to the new Quantum 540Mb drive I have ready to go inside the cube for it to boot from - and can I set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? - If so, how do I format the swap drive? Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? David... -> David R. Perry - david@wood.net <-
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Background Patterns with 3.2? Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:55:15 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5b1543$au3@news3.texas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anybody know a way I can get background images, or even just a pattern, on my NeXTStep 3.2 (moto) desktop? all I can seem to do with the "factory" software is a solid shade of grey... -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "I'ts hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Startup device Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:02:30 GMT Organization: Borland International Message-ID: <5b15f7$6uh6@newslist.borland.com> References: <32AD91FA.2BC9@valhalla.fc.hp.com> Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> wrote: I just got a next color station but I didn't know the password. so i took the battery out for a minute in hope that will reset its password (i read this somewhere on the newsgroup), but when i restart again, it tries to boot from the network. how do i force it to boot from the hard drive? john
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701081349.IAA29511@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a9c4ec517a744c5839db721272799ff5 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 08:49:08 -0500 Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: a9c4ec517a744c5839db721272799ff5 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Magne J_rgensen" <magne.jorgensen@ostfoldnett.no> Original Date: 8 Jan 1997 02:38:38 GMT > I have a NeXTstation turbo. It studdenly stupped one day:-( > When I try to start it again, I got this message on the screen: > > > boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics > booting SCSI target 4, lun 0 > blk0 boot: sd()diagnostics > Booting from SCSI target 4 lun0 > diagnostics: not found > load failed > > blk0boot: > > > I have mounted the HD as external on a other macine of the same > kind. The first time i started up, I got the message that it had to > be repaired, and so the machine did it. Later the disk came up. And > that it did whit the next reboot also. But it does not bott up the > Next were it belongs to. > > Does you know what this can be, so please help me to fix it. I think this is a simple ROM setting. Did you set "Boot extended diagnostics: yes" ? You have to have a special program to do that, and I don't think NeXT ever released it, due to some problems with mere-mortals being able to interpret the results. Try going to the ROM monitor and check your preferences. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Awaiting Apple's NeXTStep
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: memory in 040 cube Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:05:55 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5b1cp3$m5v@news.tamu.edu> References: <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu> <E3p5Cz.LEq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In-Reply-To: <E3p5Cz.LEq@novice.uwaterloo.ca> On 01/08/97, David Evans wrote: >In article <5av02j$5r3@news.tamu.edu>, >Stephen Johnson <stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu> wrote: >>In an 040 cube, I have 12 4mb simms for 48mb ram and I try to add >>another 4 4mb simms in the last 4 slots but it only sees them as 1mb >>simms. I tried switching them around and still the last 4 are seen as >>1mb simms. Is there a way to configure the simms slots in the rom >>monitor or something. Does the cube use standard 30 pin simms? > > I've stuffed a cube full with 16 4MB SIMMs with no prolems. Perhaps the SIMM >sockets are damaged? > >-- >David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca >Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ >University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer >Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual > I put 4mb simms in the first 12 slots and that works fine - 48mb. No simms in the last 4 slots. I power on without a bootable disk and just after the ethernet address, I get a message something like: Memory slots 12-15 configured for 4MB page mode simms but no simms installed Memory slots 6 and 7 configured for 4MB page mode simms but no simms installed 48MB RAM installed Memory slots 0-11 will show configured for 16MB page mode simms if I leave any of those out. The reference above to slots 6 and 7 could be to the NeXT Dimension board, I guess. But why does it say anything about slots being configured for a certain size simm??? I hope someone can help me figure out this mess. I'm going to try some different 4mb simms. Stephen
From: "Raymond L. Ehrlich" <rehrlich@sprintmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable for NeXT cube Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 19:49:09 +0000 Organization: Sprint Internet Passport Technical Center-Tampa, Fl Message-ID: <32D3FA35.11F@sprintmail.com> References: <32D3F142.771@macroi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Sumair Mitroo <sumair@macroi.com> Sumair Mitroo wrote: > > Needed for a NeXT 040 Cube: > > I have a defective cable (which goes between the monitor and the cube). > I am interested in purchasing this cable if anyone out there has one. > > Sumair > Tel. 330-399-1990 > sumair@macroi.com Try http://www.deepspacetech.com . They have cables.
From: "Magne J鴕gensen" <magne.jorgensen@ostfoldnett.no> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: simple question about a Next that dont boot... Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:08:26 GMT Organization: MBS Fjerndata Message-ID: <01bbfdc2$9adbcf00$0f4deac2@mjorgens> References: <01bbfd0e$605e8fc0$0a4deac2@mjorgens> <5b0s71$3dj@news.next.com> > Check the ROM monitor settings. You probably have the "run extended > diagnostics" option set to YES. The system will not boot with this > option set. Use the "p" command in the ROM monitor to adjust the system > boot options. THANKS:-) Now it boot. I am so happy:-)) I have tryed a lots of houers, thasnk so much:-)) Magne
From: stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu (Stephen Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! - My Cube is dead... Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:11:53 GMT Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Message-ID: <5b1d49$mfe@news.tamu.edu> References: <david-0801971317370001@tiggr.usfca.edu> In-Reply-To: <david-0801971317370001@tiggr.usfca.edu> On 01/08/97, David R. Perry wrote: ... > >my question is this: do I have to do anything to the new Quantum 540Mb >drive I have ready to go inside the cube for it to boot from - and just install the hd and then boot with cd install diskette and install on your new hd can I >set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? - If so, how do I format the swap >drive? Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? > If you use BuildDisk.app it should automatically setup the 40MB hd as a swapdisk Stephen
From: jaydub@primenet.com (Jeff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IDE Cdrom problem Date: 8 Jan 1997 20:05:02 -0700 Organization: Primenet Services for the Internet Message-ID: <32d4ce0d.512315@news.primenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I installed OpenStep 4.1 using solely IDE Devices, following the instructions contained in the NeXTanswers entry number 1933: EDIE/ATAPI Support in NEXTSTEP.... My CDRom is on the list of ATAPI devices as being supported. I NeXTanswers file said to select the Adaptec 154x SCSI driver during install and remove it after install. I am able to install everything okay, however, the CD rom does not appear to be recognized when the system has booted up. I realize that their is better support for SCSI devices and perhaps this is not a common problem. Any help would be appreciated. My system Intel P-90 with EIDE controllers and a Sony CDU55-E CDrom. Jeff jaydub@primenet.com
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can NeXT monitor cause buggy boot? Date: 9 Jan 1997 00:46:10 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5b1f4i$q6c@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> I bought a used NeXTstation that was having intermittent problems booting, giving error messages like: Boot command: sd boot sd(0,0,0) booting SCSI target 1, lun 0 blk0 goot: sd()sdmach Booting from SCSI target 1 lun 0 READ: bad status detected in sdcmd: 0 read error load failed blk0 boot: The problem mainly occurs after powering up from a cold state. Usually, powering down and up again produces a clean boot. I sent the slab back to the seller, who, upon testing it, hasn't duplicated the error so far. Now, I know that the system requires the monitor to be plugged in to boot properly, so I am wondering if there could be a problem in the monitor causing the bad boots. Any information about NeXT hardware failure modes will be greatly appreciated. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: The Black Knight <mixmaster@aldebaran.armory.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 22:13:16 PST Sender: loki@armory.com Message-ID: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us (Bob Peirce #305) Subject: Any of the nwe ODs read Cannon? Message-ID: <1997Jan6.160939.5664@investor.pgh.pa.us> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:09:39 GMT Organization: Cookson, Peirce & Co., Pittsburgh, PA I have heard (urban myth?) that some of the new optical drives out there can read a Cannon disc. I have a problem with my drive, and while my first goal is just to get the stuff off the discs, these new ODs have become quite popular for backups and off-line storage. Therefore, this may be a viable alternative for me. Does anybody have any first-hand experiences they are willing to pass on? Thanks -- Bob Peirce Pittsburgh, PA 412-471-5320 rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:18:28 +0100 Organization: NaixT - The NEXTSTEP User Group Aachen Message-ID: <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Probably the final end. :(((((( Sebastian _______________________________________________________________________________ Sebastian Niesen sniesen@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Student Of Computer Science sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de RWTH Aachen http://www-users.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/~sniesen
From: aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:02:29 GMT Organization: Netcom Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> The Black Knight <mixmaster@aldebaran.armory.com> wrote: > > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( But don't blame Apple for this. Published reports have indicated that NeXT has been trying to sell its OS business since last summer. OS/Mach 4.x shows that NeXT hasn't been expending many resources on operating system enhancements. The end was nigh regardless. Even installing 64 MB of RAM in my old Cube hasn't made it speedy enough running OS/Mach 4.1 to really be satisfactory for development, so this old hardware, as wonderful as it has been, has just about reached the end of the road. RIP :-( -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: aisbell@ix.netcom.com Trego Systems Voice/Fax: +1 408 335 2515 CaseServ: OPENSTEP Voice Mail: +1 408 335 1154 managed care solutions US Mail: Felton, CA 95018-9442
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFA95CD-C7EE9@207.147.62.179> References: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 12:02 PM, Art Isbell <mailto:aisbell@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > > > Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > > > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( > I thought the question was more along the lines of whether Apple would release black hardware. My prediction is this: After Apple gets the software running on the PowerPC it will need a really strong marketing statement to show that it's back with force. Apple will release new PowerPC hardware that looks very much like the NeXT Cube andwill have many of the features of the Black machines in terms of true "plug and play." Let's fact it, the NeXT machines are cuttin edge industrial design, even today. I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? Mitch --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <SMALLER><SMALLER><X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>9</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>New York</PARAM> </FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE></SMALLER></SMALLER><X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PA= RAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM> On Thu, Jan 9, 1997 12:02 PM, </FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: application/X-url Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: Art Isbell bWFpbHRvOmFpc2JlbGxAaXgubmV0Y29tLmNvbQ== --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM> wrote: </FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE><X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PAR= AM>New York</PARAM>> > What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? > > > > Sebastian Niesen <<sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: > > > > > Probably the final end. :(((((( > I thought the question was more along the lines of whether Apple would release black hardware. My prediction is this: After Apple gets the software running on the PowerPC it will need a really strong marketing statement to show that it's back with force. Apple will release new PowerPC hardware that looks very much like the NeXT Cube andwill have many of the features of the Black machines in terms of </FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE><X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFA= MILY><PARAM>Palatino</PARAM>true "plug and play." Let's fact it, the NeXT machines are cuttin edge industrial design, even today. I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? Mitch</FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-000C7DBD-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-000C7DBB--
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power management on Intel hardware Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:24:23 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi, I recently bought an Intel based machine and installed NS3.3 on it. I saw that there is a power management section in Preference.app. What is this used for? I can only turn it on or off but I cannot configure any parameters. I tried to turn it on but it didn`t seem to do anything. I would like to put the monitor in "power saving" mode after a certain time of inactivity. Is this possible? My monitor supports "energy star" and "Eco-logic" specifications. Thank you, Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: sherwood@mars.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Adding a non-NeXT printer to black Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:43:28 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5b3ao0$10c0@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <ukvd8vnpzw6.fsf@dura.spc.uchicago.edu> Hooking it up is easy. HOwever you will be disappointed with the speed with any file that contains embedded bit map graphics. The next serial port can't be driven any faster than 38,800 baud, which works out to aoubt 3.5 K /sec. So a file that includes a 500K tiff file (Not difficult to do... I had one file that ran 10 MB/page) that page will take several minutes to print. A better solution is to get a printer that is 'network ready'. HP printers can have a jetdirect card added. Lexmark sells either a native card, or a cute box that has one ethernet port, and 2 parallel ports on it. The latter solution is more expensive, a little slower, but more general in that you can use it with any parallel printer. Adding the printer is trivial. If it's a network printer, you give it a name, and an IP number, and add that information to machines in netinfo. If it's a serial printer you can add it using printer manager. Then add it to netinfo under printers as a remote printer. If the printer doesn't have a ppd file you can get one usually from ftp.adobe.com. They collect them. Walt|W|walt|Walt: \ :rm=arafel:rp=WLP:lp=:ty=QMS ColorScript 100 Model 10: \ :note=! VERY EXPENSIVE TO RUN !:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/Walt:lo=lock: The above is a printcap entry for walt, a remote printer on arafel. For a network pritner the rm=printer that is, the machine name and the printer name are the same. The ty field is the same as the PPD file, with all the _ turned to spaces. The ppd file goes in /Library/Printers/something or other. Find out where the other ones live by doing a "find / -name "*.ppd" -print" You can write a file similar to this, then load it with the command niload printcap / < filename. I find this easier than using NetInfoManager. You may have to reboot for the new printer to be recognized. BSD derived lpd daemons are a tad flakey about recognizeing changes in configuration. fugue@ccp.spc.uchicago.edu wrote: : hi all... : My SO and I are considering buying a laserprinter (NEC 5i) for the house, : which would be connected to my mono black slab, which serves as a PPP network : gateway/router/firewall/mailserver. I've checked everywhere, but the only : discussion about adding non-NeXT printers to a slab has to do with rewiring : a serial connector. : Is it possible to add a non-NeXT printer to a black slab? What should I : ask for in the way of accessories when I purchase this beastie? Do I need : a parallel-serial converter, and the serial connector hack in the FAQ? Do : I need something else? What do I have to do on the software side of things? : We're both very excited, as this will be our first in-home laser printer, : but I'm a bit concerned, since getting the thing connected to my slab is a : big grey fog for me right now. Could someone clarify? : Thanks, : Mark : -- : fugue : "The police used to watch over the people. : Now they're watching the people." -- Sherwood Botsford | "Go to father, she said, when I asked her to wed. Physics Dept | She knew that I knew that her father was dead. U of Alberta | She knew that I knew what a life he had led. Edmonton, AB, | She knew that I knew what she meant when she said, T6G 2J1 | "Go to father." New address: sherwood@vega.math.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3r0pM.HEG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 16:05:45 GMT References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32D4F024.7757@imib.rwth-aachen.de>, Sebastian Niesen <sniesen@imib.rwth-aachen.de> wrote: >Probably the final end. :(((((( > That would be my guess. Apple has said that PPC will be its major focus, and that they're not too keen on supporting their 68k Macs. I wouldn't be too optimistic about further black releases. 4.2 may be the last (that is, if 4.2 makes it out the door). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual avid Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 9 Jan 1997 12:30:55 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up itself? Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is supported, but maybe it's just lying.) My PS/2 mouse is also faster going left than going right, which didn't manifest under W95, but I think that's enough for one day... argh. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: cdevine@sfu.ca (Christopher Patrick Devine) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sony MPX111 Problems Date: 9 Jan 1997 21:02:12 GMT Organization: Simon Fraser University Message-ID: <5b3mck$gob@morgoth.sfu.ca> I was just playing around with the floppy drive on my NeXTstation colour turbo and i ended up getting a diskette jammed into the disk drive (actually, it was the 3.3 bootdisk). When i rebooted, weird things happened and it couldn't find the disk properly and hung for a bit. Now when i reboot and pop in a diskette, it will not recognize it at all. When I checked the properties on the desktop, it said that it still scans for the diskette, just doesn't work. The boot rom manager still announces that it's found the drive, however if i go in and try to put a disk in and boot from it, it won't find the diskette at all either. even eject won't work. did i kill the drive ? should i buy a replacement ?
From: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead Cube redux... Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 15:52:24 -0800 Organization: USF InfoTech Message-ID: <david-0901971552240001@tiggr.usfca.edu> So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the cube is still bitterly unhappy. I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never gets to the windowserver... HELP! -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) David... __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" _/=== \___/ -----------------------------------------------------------
From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5b488e$200@tkhut.sojourn.com> Hi. My laser printer has recently decided to print a wide black smudge/smear thing on the first page of a printout, sometimes going on to teh second page (as it fades out).... I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it worse.... anyone ever see this, any ideas? it just happened all of a sudden.... thanks gary ________________________________________________________________ gcl@mail.sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3 and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3 _________________________________________________________________
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: no Direct-X compliant driver for Miro Crystal32S video Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:10:01 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48dp$rea@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I posted this article to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video, but I am also posting it here since many people who hung out in the group 2 1/2 years ago had this particular video card when it was the best available and compatible card for NEXTSTEP. ----- My video card is a Miro Crystal 32S (4MB PCI). It's based on the S3 928. I buoght it 2 1/2 years ago, at wihch time it was top-of-the-line. Miro's Win95 driver is not Direct-X compliant, and the company has told me that they don't plan to write a Direct-X compliant version since they are no longer selling the card (at least in the US). Does anyone else have this card and is there any way to get Direct-X to work with it? Is there a Direct-X compliant generic S3-928 driver, and is it possible to use this instead of Miro's driver? Or even the generic VGA driver? Or am I just out of luck until I buy a newer video card? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: will NS3.3 Matrox Millenium driver work with NS3.2? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:14:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48mh$ri9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I've got a NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system with a Miro Crystal32S video card. I'm thinking about buying a newer video card in order to use Direct-X applications in Windows95. The compatibility guides in NextAnswers seem to only go back to NEXTSTEP 3.3 and don't mention NEXTSTEP 3.2. In general, will a video driver from NextAnswers that claims to be for 3.3 work with 3.2 as well? Specifically, does anyone know if the Matrox Millenium driver will work with 3.2? Even though I am a student, $300 to upgrade to 4.0 or 3.3 is too much. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:46:44 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5b4aik$29s@news.us.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote > Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with > the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. > With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, > the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness > problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh > rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just > severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is > supported, but maybe it's just lying.) It's probably your CTX. For instance, my Idek 8617 17" monitor is rated for better than 1280x1024 and it will hold that image properly. However, it's really too fuzzy to be useful at that resolution. I usually use it at 1152x864 or 1120x832 for a decent picture. So, even if a monitor supports 1280x1024 @ 75hz (the electronics on the monitor will display that bandwidth), one still has to look at the resulting picture on the tube. Personally, I like the Nanao T2-17 series with the nice Trinitron tubes. .Bill Chin bchin@us.net
From: Peet Dale <dale@gidi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mac 4.1 on a dual ppro system? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 21:19:24 -0600 Organization: GIDI Message-ID: <32D5B53B.12E1@gidi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Next says that openstep/Mach 4.1 WILL NOT run on a dual pentium pro system UNLESS one pulls out one of the processors. Does anyone know of a workaround or can disprove this as a falicy? *** I know that openstep does not yet have SMP capability, but what I am after here is just using a single processor on my dual box (like win 95 does now) **** PLEASE oh PLEASE let me know as I want to buy and load it but cannot pull out CPUs because I also run Solaris and NT on the same box. Please reply via email to dale@gidi.com as I don't read news often enough! -Peet Dale
From: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the best solution for a portable NeXT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:46:26 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32D59162.7100@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK what's the best solution for a portable NeXT computer
From: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:44:30 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer input anyone
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:24:23 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> Hi all, We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new 2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to restore the data? If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. Best Regards, 法﹕舅batmon batmon@abico.com.tw Ability Enterprise Co., Ltd. Part of ABiCO Group
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 01:44:55 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: >Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: >SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. >Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the >installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up >itself? NEXTSTEP finds the card fine. The DIAGNOSE.EXE utility passes the card on all tests, with default settings (220/330/IRQ5/DMA1,5). And still no sound under NEXTSTEP with 3.30 and 3.32 drivers. Blech! For my next trick, I'll ask if anyone has gotten a SB 16 clone such as the Shark Multimedia Mako II to work under NEXTSTEP with the SB 16 driver. (It's PnP, though, so maybe sound is a lost cause.) -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701091417.GAA27547@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: eb6eb2526783d6055391b130c4c3e5ab - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:16:47 -0500 Subject: swapfile and swapdisk questions (Re: HELP! - My Cube is dead...) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: eb6eb2526783d6055391b130c4c3e5ab - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Original Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 13:17:37 -0800 > can I set up a second 40Mb Quantum for swap? 40meg is hardly a lot of swapspace these days, but to each his own. > If so, how do I format the swap drive? just like any other drive. Label it 'swapdisk' > Can I just use sdform and then mv the swpfile over? I would recommend not moving the existing swapfile as doing so would likely freeze your system. For more information on the swapdrive and swapdisk, see my FAQ at my NeXT Web page (http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat/next) or send me an email message with the SUBJECT send-mime swapfaq.ps.gz (or if you can't receive MIME, use "send-uuencoded swapfaq.ps.gz") TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701091421.GAA27902@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:21:38 -0500 Subject: Re: Startup device Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 22:02:30 GMT Message-ID: 5615b9aedc4e842c6eecfbf0f0b33e91 - > Russell Petersen <russp@valhalla.fc.hp.com> wrote: > I just got a next color station but I didn't know the password. so > i took the battery out for a minute in hope that will reset its > password (i read this somewhere on the newsgroup), but when i > restart again, it tries to boot from the network. > > how do i force it to boot from the hard drive? in the ROM monitor, change the boot device from "en" to "sd" (Ethernet to scsi-drive) You might also want to turn on verbose booting, I find it invaluable when problems occur. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701091419.GAA27687@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 234e8a51cd842dff449e5f6066e27681 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:18:40 -0500 Subject: Re: Background Patterns with 3.2? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 234e8a51cd842dff449e5f6066e27681 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Original Date: 8 Jan 1997 21:55:15 GMT > Anybody know a way I can get background images, or even just a > pattern, on my NeXTStep 3.2 (moto) desktop? all I can seem to do > with the "factory" software is a solid shade of grey... Sure, use Fiend.app. If you don't already have it, you can find it by sending me an email with the SUBJECT search-peak -c Fiend which will give you a case-sensitive list of search results of the FTP server, which would look something like this: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/latest_versions/Fiend.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/Fiend.1.4.1.NIHS.tar.gz ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/utils/workspace/Fiend.1.4.1.README TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Apple + NeXT = Rhapsody (in black? ;-)
From: dozer@netwizards.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: would you be my friend? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:03:28 Message-ID: <5b50ke$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Hello, I'm 14 years old and I think I may be a gay. I'm looking for some support and friendship with a older male age 18-40. Please email if you can help.
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From: Stefan Holzinger <sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead Cube redux... Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:13:54 +0100 Organization: Philips Dictation Systems Message-ID: <32D60852.2C06@austria.ds.philips.com> References: <david-0901971552240001@tiggr.usfca.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David R. Perry wrote: > > So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the > cube is still bitterly unhappy. > > I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. > The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it > cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by > booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously > running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never > gets to the windowserver... HELP! > > -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) > > David... > __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- > /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu > `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco > \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 > >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ > /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" > _/=== \___/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm in similar troubles (though it's only a monostation). Suddenly my 400 MB Seagate reported media error on block xy. I even tried reasb. This should do the trick if it's really a meadia error: it tells the drive to use one of the spare blocks nearby. Well, my seagate used another unusable block. Retrying didn't work either. Hmmmm... Does anyone have a good idea? Reformat (low format)? Make two partitions with some spare in the middle for the damaged section? If so, how? (disktab entries are complex!) What else? Stefan
From: Stefan Holzinger <sholzing@austria.ds.philips.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Dead Cube redux... Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:14:42 +0100 Organization: Philips Dictation Systems Message-ID: <32D60882.1944@austria.ds.philips.com> References: <david-0901971552240001@tiggr.usfca.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David R. Perry wrote: > > So, even after some very helpful suggestions from the folks out there, the > cube is still bitterly unhappy. > > I used BuildDisk.app to create a 40Mb swap drive and a 540Mb boot drive. > The problem now is that it will not boot, because fsck reports that it > cannot read blocks 8,9,10,11,12,13. I further compounded the problem by > booting from the OD and installing the 3.2 UpgradePrep (it was previously > running 2.0) - now I can't get the machine to boot from the OD - it never > gets to the windowserver... HELP! > > -> Can I boot my 030 Cube from the floppy? (if so, how?) > > David... > __ _-==-=_,-. ----------------------------------------------------------- > /--`' \_O-O.--< David R. Perry - perry@usfca.edu > `--'\ \ <___/. Knowledge Worker - University of San Francisco > \ \\ " / w:415/422-2899 f:415/422-6929 > >=\\_/`< http://wood.net/~david/ > /= | \_/| "Garrarumph! Playing on the 'net is what Tiggers do best!" > _/=== \___/ ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi! I'm in similar troubles (though it's only a monostation). Suddenly my 400 MB Seagate reported media error on block xy. I even tried reasb. This should do the trick if it's really a media error: it tells the drive to use one of the spare blocks nearby. Well, my seagate used another unusable block. Retrying didn't work either. Hmmmm... Does anyone have a good idea? Reformat (low format)? Make two partitions with some spare in the middle for the damaged section? If so, how? (disktab entries are complex!) What else? Stefan
From: ekotan@merlin (Eren Kotan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 1997 11:56:19 GMT Organization: NeXT Software, Inc. Message-ID: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> References: <SHESS.97Jan1104503@howard.one.net> <E3E8n6.8vI@cam-ani.co.uk> Ian Stephenson (ians@cam-ani.co.uk) wrote: : If you're looking to "get into" NeXT development then the Black machines : are a bargin, and will remain viable as desktop machines for some time. : Put the PC in the cupboard under the stairs, and access it remotely from : something that looks nice! Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and money is no object sorta person ;-} : Mac users will find the Black machines "just work". Hacking together a : good PC is possible, but setting up a good Black machine involves plugging : it in. I agree 100%, I also love black hardware, but I like fast computers even better, so a compromise is to get a well-designed PC like a Compaq Deskpro 2000 which will perform really well and also won't cause much trouble if trying to setup OPENSTEP. Of course, as Ian says, black boxes are much cheaper and offer real plug and play, as opposed to PCs plug and pray. Regards, Eren -- Eren Kotan - NeXT Software (UK) Limited oh, one moment, it's Apple now The best friend money can buy ObjectLine Support E-mail: Eren_Kotan@next.com - WWW: http://www.next.com/
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:19:20 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5b5mlo$hbr@news3.texas.net> References: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> wrote: : OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line : was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer : input anyone The NeXT cannot do the 57600 or 115200 serial port speed required by the BitSurft; I've tried it. Best way to do ISDN with a NeXT is to use an Ascend Pipeline 25/50/75. I have a 25 at home, and it works great. -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "Its hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Some NeXTstation peripheral questions? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:44:57 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The following questions concern a NeXTstation/68040/25 Mono. 1. The system uses ADB(Apple Desktop Bus) right? I connected my mac mouse to the NeXTstation and it worked fine. Can I also use a Macintosh modem cable to connect the NeXTstation to a mac external modem? 2. What is the type of SCSI port found on the back of the NeXTstation? I plan on buying an external CDROM and external case for a hard drive and need to know what type of SCSI interface that is when buying the cables. 3. Do you have any information regarding companies who can help me with NeXTstation modem or external SCSI device questions? 4. Do you know if a SCSI Jazz or Zip drive works with my NeXTstation? Thanks
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Power management on Intel hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 20:32:04 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan9203204@slave.one.net> References: <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> In-reply-to: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca's message of 9 Jan 1997 17:24:23 GMT In article <5b39k7$9cn@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA>, magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) writes: I recently bought an Intel based machine and installed NS3.3 on it. I saw that there is a power management section in Preference.app. What is this used for? I can only turn it on or off but I cannot configure any parameters. I tried to turn it on but it didn`t seem to do anything. I would like to put the monitor in "power saving" mode after a certain time of inactivity. The power saving functions don't really "do" anything, they just enable your system's BIOS power management to work. You need to go into the BIOS setup screen (usually "DEL" soon after power on or reset), and muck about. Careful, though! Certain modes might cause your machine to power off more than you really want. For instance, you probably don't want to spin down the hard drive (bad, BAD), and you also probably don't want to power down your network and other cards. My machine uses Award BIOS, which gave me "Doze", "Standby" and "Shutdown" modes, with timeouts for each. Beyond that, I could tell it when the monitor is powered down, using DPMS (and some other options). In "Shutdown" mode, I found that I couldn't do network stuff with the machine. I now have it set to go into "Doze" mode after a couple hours to power off the monitor, and disabled the other power management modes. Works much better. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 9 Jan 97 20:46:32 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan9204632@slave.one.net> References: <5b38b5$ier@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <AEFA95CD-C7EE9@207.147.62.179> In-reply-to: "Mitchell Allen"'s message of 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 In article <AEFA95CD-C7EE9@207.147.62.179>, "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> writes: I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to anyone other than me? I know that this is probably not how you meant that remark, but ... A number of people have been making a similar comment, and your's just pushed me over the edge. I think that these new IBM machines only look slab-ish from a _very_ great distance. The monitor holder is not nearly so fluid as NeXT's, and you _still_ have the damned CPU box (though I suppose you can hide it behind your desk, now). Has anyone noticed the blatant penis-envy design of most current Intel boxes? As if it wasn't bad enough to have giant boxes which are four times as big as they need to be for the functions they supply ... now we have to have giant speaker "wings" hanging off the monitor, and all sorts of gadgetry hanging off the front of the boxes. And what gadgetry! As if we really need to be reminded "I have a floppy drive and a 29x CD-ROM". Whoop! Whoop! How many times does one use a floppy drive? Once a week? Once a _month_? Ever notice how many pizza box machines push the floppy and CD-ROM off to the side, where you don't notice it until you want to use it? Does _your_ television have giant speaker wings hanging off of it? Or perhaps a "TI Inside" logo? And all sorts of buttons. How many times a week should we expect to need the reset or power switches? Do we need them often enough to make them large and easily pressable, placing them into dangerous front-panel space? And if we _do_ need them that often, doesn't that say something? [This is my main peeve. Those handle of times I need to use my floppy, I have to reach across my reset and power switches to get there due to my machine's placement. I'm _strongly_ tempted to home-build a pair of switches for the back of my case so as to disconnect the front panel versions.] I suppose a system with more-or-less hidden speakers and hidden removable disk access and whatnot wouldn't scream out "Look what _I_ bought". Sigh, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <587851299369@digifix.com> Date: 10 Jan 1997 16:42:13 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <475852914532@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: "Colonel Hogan" <ilank@pop.interport.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: modem for NeXTstep Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:38:12 +0000 Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Message-ID: <ilank-1001971438120001@ilank.port.net> I am looking for a standard modem for NeXT box that I just bought. Is there such an animal? What are my telecommunications options with this machine? Current Mac user.
From: Robert Nicholson <robert@elastica.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Urgent questions on Toshiba's Deskstation V+ Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:53:51 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Message-ID: <32D6903F.189F@elastica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some questions about the Deskstation V+ with the Tecra 720CDT 1. How good is the video performance? A friend runs his with a Elsa Winner 2000 card and it really bites. He can see windows redrawn at 1280x1024. Anybody using one with a Matrox Millenium 4MEG card?
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 97 17:14:00 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFC295D-1D299E@207.147.50.154> References: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 10, 1997 6:56 AM, Eren Kotan <mailto:ekotan@merlin> wrote: > Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the > black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then > display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two > machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and > money is no object sorta person ;-} How would the speed be on a setup like this. I'm currently running a Mac network over ethernet with Filemaker Pro 3.0 serving some DB to a few networked Macs and it's abysmally slow. All these machines are PPC machines except the server which is a IIfx. Is NeXTStep better at client/server applications? Mitch
From: "johan" <johan@nielsencorp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:06:16 -0500 Organization: NITC Message-ID: <johan-1001971506160001@jnielsenmac.andersencorp.com> References: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> In article <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu>, jak@asu.edu (John Kestner) wrote: > If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to > print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or > is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? > > Any help is much appreciated. > > john > > --- - ------- ------- > You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick > > jak@asu.edu > http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ InterCon has software to facilitate lpr and NFS communication between a Mac and systems that support these protocols. Check out http://www.intercon.com. Johan
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to use JAZ on NeXT ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:24:14 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Message-ID: <5b5muu$ijm@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> I bought a JAZ and tested on Mac, OK. I connected it to my NeXTcube turbo running NS3.2 . The cartridge was bought preformatted with Mac format. While the cartridge is inserted into the JAZ on NeXT, it is mounted automatically to the NeXT in Mac format. Then I tried Disk->Initialize... After a while, NeXT reported error and eject the disk. I remembered 2yrs ago, I saw a post said that the JAZ is compatible with NeXT. Can you tell me what's wrong with me ? Do I need to do some low level reformat before the Initialization ? And how to do it ? Or is there any FAQ discussion on it ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
From: Calvin Lui <luical@leland.stanford.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Where to buy a Next Mouse? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:49:53 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <32D6E3B1.41C6@leland.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: luical@leland.stanford.edu Hi, Does anyone know where I can buy a Next Mouse? Thank you. Calvin Lui (luical@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701101405.GAA20955@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: ae3ac2caf9022211222ae678f96edb5f - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:05:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: ae3ac2caf9022211222ae678f96edb5f - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: stimpy@castlerock.com Original Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT > I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with > it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it > worse.... > > anyone ever see this, any ideas? > > it just happened all of a sudden.... Sounds like what happened when my toner started to die. I know it seems a little weird, but replacing the toner cart did it. Before you ask: toner cartridge for HP Laserjet II, IID,III, IID HP ref : HP 92295A TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat For info on my email auto-responder and searching the PEAK FTP site via email, send me an email with the SUBJECT "send-help" (without the " marks, of course ;-) ^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701101401.GAA20726@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:01:31 -0500 Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Original Date: 9 Jan 97 12:32:08 -0500 Message-ID: a9b00cd95d7e79a40eaac7c07ff0a276 - > I was just looking at some NeXT sales literature form 1990 and > realized that there were features on the NeXT in 1990 that still > haven't shown up on standard production machines any vendor. Just curious for a "such as....." > By the way, does the IBM Aptiva S series design seem familiar to > anyone other than me? First thing I thought when I saw it..... except for that puny little monitor (and no Laser Printer, I'm sure) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat For info on my email auto-responder and searching the PEAK FTP site via email, send me an email with the SUBJECT "send-help" (without the " marks, of course ;-) ^^^^^^^
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:43 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4BB3.55E1@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason
From: "Brian Heugly" <bheugly@aros.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT for sale Date: 11 Jan 1997 05:24:30 GMT Organization: ArosNet Inc. Message-ID: <01bbff7f$eb7407c0$5218adcf@aros.net.aros.net> I have some cubes and stations for sale. They are 040 the cubes have 300meg HDD and 16 meg RAM. The stations have 100 meg HDD and 8 meg of RAM. They come with 17" grayscale monitors, mice, and keyboard. They have NeXTstep 3.3 OS. I also have alot of extra keyboards. Make me an offer. Questions E-mail to bheugly@aros.net Thanks Brian
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsg#################################################################### From: "D. Scott" <dscott@netuser.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NextStation Need Help Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:15:11 +0000 Organization: M+ Message-ID: <32D6BF6D.598C@netuser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just purchased a NextStation that I have been able to boot, but unable to get into the system since I bought it used from a broker. I have read most of the newsgroup messages listed in these two forums and tried www.next.com to get answer with no luck. Can someone help in these areas? How do I get around the Graphical USER and PASSWORD to reset it for my own use and delete all other users. Where would I find software for this system, maybe CD or floppies? Does it cost?? Where would I find the System Admin manuals, I only have the User Guides. Any suggestions for software available? I am just using it to explore the Next Station. Any help is appreciated. Dale Scott dscott@netuser.com
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Some NeXTstation peripheral questions? Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:57:33 GMT Organization: Electronics Service, Unit No. 16 Message-ID: <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> References: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> wrote: >The following questions concern a NeXTstation/68040/25 Mono. > > 1. The system uses ADB(Apple Desktop Bus) right? I connected my mac > mouse to the NeXTstation and it worked fine. Can I also use a > Macintosh modem cable to connect the NeXTstation to a mac external > modem? Ah, you have one of the rare 25 MHz machines with the Turbo chipset. Unlike earlier systems, almost all the Turbo systems can support ADB with the proper Monochrome monitor or sound box, and cable from the slab to the monitor or sound box. The serial ports use a DIN-8 connector, but also support hardware flow control. For best results, you'll wand a custom cable. A few folks on the Web sell these, or you can get one custom made. (See the manual page for 'zs', the serial ports. Type 'man zs' in a Terminal window or use Digital Librarian to look this up in the 'man pages'.) > 2. What is the type of SCSI port found on the back of the > NeXTstation? I plan on buying an external CDROM and external case for a > hard drive and need to know what type of SCSI interface that is when > buying the cables. That's a SCSI-2 cable connector. > 3. Do you have any information regarding companies who can help me > with NeXTstation modem or external SCSI device questions? There may be some consulting companies out there, but this is in general the right place. Timothy Luoma has assembled a bunch of links to good information on his web page at: http://www.nerc.com/~luomat/ > 4. Do you know if a SCSI Jazz or Zip drive works with my NeXTstation? Zip drives work right out of the box (except for removing that pesky software write protect from their 'utility' disk so it can be recycled.) Jazz drives seem to need a disktab entry (a Unix incantation that tells the OS about the drive geometry) There's a link to the information on the web page above, or you can search NeXTAnswers at http://www.next.com/ Mike Paquette -- I don't speak for my employer, whoever it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@wco.com mpaque@next.com NeXT business mail only, please
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: richsign@ms9.hinet.net (Jonny Huang) Subject: cmsg cancel <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Control: cancel <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Followup-to: junk References: <5bdg27$qpt@netnews.hinet.net> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:26:06 GMT Spam-cancel: "Wish to export Mold Making/Molding/Assembling, Plastic Injection & Die Casting to Worldwide"
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:33:00 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> In article <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com>, The Black Knight <mixmaster@aldebaran.armory.com> writes: |> |> What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? |> If the "NeXTstation Power" starts at $5,000 it means nothing. (except for the NeXTcult members :).
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Apple/NeXT, black hardware Date: 12 Jan 1997 20:42:21 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bbibd$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> References: <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com> <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu> In article <5bbhps$64v@cocoa.brown.edu>, andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) writes: |> In article <9701082213.aa06846@aldebaran.armory.com>, The Black Knight <mixmaster@aldebaran.armory.com> writes: |> |> |> |> What does Apple's acquisition of NeXT mean for black hardware? |> |> |> |> If the "NeXTstation Power" starts at $5,000 it means nothing. |> (except for the NeXTcult members :). Whoops! I what was I thinking? Please disregard.
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PD drives on black?? Date: 14 Jan 1997 17:53:15 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> My cube's original MO drive is finally too unreliable for daily backups, after almost eight years of good service. I also am getting tired of life without a CD-ROM drive. So, here is what I need: * A drive that#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!swidir.switch.ch!01-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!Austria.EU.net!EU.net!howland.erols.net!surfnet.nl!news.unisource.nl!xs4all!xs4all!ztm07-06.dial.xs4all.nl!user From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:04:50 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 39 Message-ID: <rr-1401972004500001@ztm07-06.dial.xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm04-27.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:08:54 MET Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:26583 comp.sys.sun.hardware:43590 Hi, couple a days ago I asked around if there was anybody who had succesfully connected a macintosh to a (21") NeXT MegaPixel display. Nobody seemed to have any real answers. However I did get a lot of responses from people who are interested in this. I've looked around and found a DB15-13W3 ( the latter being the one on the MP) mac to *Sun* video cable. Has anybody tried this (on a Sun or a NeXT) ? How different is the pin-out of the Sun monitors from the NeXT ? Here's the pinout for the NeXT color ( thanks to Kevin Coffee) Pin Signal 1 +12V 2 PWR Switch 3 Mon Clk 4 Mon Data Out 5 Mon Data In 6 -12V 7 GND 8 GND 9 GND 10 GND A1-inner Red Video A2-inner Green Video A3-inner Blue Video A1-outer Red Video GND A2-outer Green Video GND A3-outer Blue Video GND Shell chassis GND The A-x numbers are the coaxial connections. I'm wondering what the Sun color pin-outsare. I'm not much of an expert on this kind of talk. Is there anybody outthere who is and can help me out ? Help is much appreciated. rr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Message-ID: <cdoutyE40MGn.3Bp@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:33:59 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom8.netcom.com In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? I don't have a Matrox Millenium, but rather a Diamond Stealth 64 Video 3400. However, you are asking the wrong question. I get NXbench results ranging from 1.8 to 2.(something) for the Diamond card. The best I get from my dimension is 0.7 or so. The immense difference in processor and bus speed between the average Intel box and even a Turbocube makes this a non-comparison. Even on the dimension most DPS rendering is done by the '040. I believe that the dimension merely (!) moves and scales graphics in onboard RAM once they were initially rendered by the '040. This accounts for its excellent performance on the fairly slow NeXTbus. All PC cards are much less capable in terms of acceleration, and they don't have the huge backing store that the dimension uses. The Window Server backing store is all in main memory, but a PCI bus is much faster. It is interesting to note that you must have a CPU 2x to 3x faster than the old black hardware before video performance becomes acceptable. :-) Get a PPro, high end video card, and a lot of RAM, if you must have hardware while waiting for Rhapsody. #8^) -Chris Douty -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 14 Jan 97 10:52:20 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan14105220@howard.one.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> In-reply-to: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw's message of 14 Jan 1997 11:50:59 GMT In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) writes: I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing with Dimension? I'd expect the Millenium to be much faster for _most_ uses. The PCI local bus is substantially faster than the cube's bus was (PCs can't keep up in realtime - but over the course of eight years, well, they can certainly catch up!). And a Pentium 133 should pretty easily be able to outrun a 25Mhz '040 + i860. Put the Millenium on a 200Mhz Pentium Pro, and there really won't be any comparison. [I can't compare side-by-side, but performance benchmarks has always indicated that the Dimension was slower than the mono machines almost across the board. They were pushing 16x the data, though! But my P133+Millenium does graphics something like 3x faster than my mono Turbo, and a Pentium Pro 200 should easily double that again.] Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: Georgie Corona <gcorona@neptune.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Workstation For Sale Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:16:54 -0800 Organization: Neptune.Net (Neptune Consulting Group, Inc.) Message-ID: <32DB24D6.5679@neptune.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NeXT Color Workstation; 16mb mem, 400mb disk, 17" MegaPixel mon, sound box, mouse, keyboard, floppy drive,manuals, developers kit, lots of software, spare parts: mouse, floppy drive, batteries, etc. All in xlnt condition. $650.00 obo Call 714-893-5498
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: black hardware: SCSI2 Message-ID: <E3z0yo.37p@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5bde41$4na@decaxp.harvard.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 23:52:00 GMT In article <5bde41$4na@decaxp.harvard.edu> ylee@brauer.harvard.edu writes: > I would like to know what kind of external HD can be > used with an old NeXTstation. There is an S#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news.mathworks.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pen-16.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-fw-22.sprintlink.net!news.onramp.net!usenet From: Brian Sutherland <rmaniac@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 15:27:31 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Lines: 20 Message-ID: <32DBFA43.6F91@onramp.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Reply-To: rmaniac@onramp.net NNTP-Posting-Host: help12.onramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) To: Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> Jiunn-jye Huang wrote: > > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and > NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, > so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing > with Dimension? > Did anyone try both configuration? > -- > 独玊城 = Jiunn-jye Huang > Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ > ===============================#========================================= > Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw > National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! > 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang > Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 > 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server > ===============================#========================================= I have tried both. I can't give a real good comparison but let me say that I am still have my Dimension and I am selling my Matrox tomarrow. -Brian
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 15 Jan 1997 02:27:15 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5bhfa3$jue@news.us.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? On Intel machines, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP does not utilize any hardware acceleration operations on today's video boards. Instead, it completely relies on the CPU to do all the drawing and bandwidth from system memory to display memory (usually across the I/O bus, such as VESA or PCI) determines the other part of the video speed question. On a NeXTdimension system, the i860 processor on the dimension board is tapped to do some operations, however the Postscript window server still runs on the 68040 CPU. That means that for some operations, especially complex Postscript drawing, an Intel Pentium or better will easily outperform the NeXTdimension due to pure CPU horsepower difference. Also, for pure video bandwidth, PCI outperforms the NeXTbus, again weighing in favor of the PC's. 3DKit graphics and some NXImage operations may be faster on the NeXTdimension however. That is why the NXBench results are better on most PC's with local bus video. This is especially noticable if you run X, Executor, or SoftPC on the NeXTdimension. Finally, while there is only one way to screw up the performance of a NeXTdimension (namely, configure a mono monitor as the main monitor), there are a multitude of ways to configure fast components to run slowly on the Intel side. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E409zE.8ru@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:04:25 GMT References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? The ND NXFactor's at around 0.7, and I see PCs with 2+ ratings all the time. The Mullenium's supposed to be quick, so I'd guess it'd be in the higher range of PCs. Way faster than the ND is my educated guess. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Message-ID: <cdoutyE40wnL.Hpu@netcom.com> Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <cdoutyE40MGn.3Bp@netcom.com> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:14:09 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom8.netcom.com I know it's bad form to reply to your own posts, but I had to get one more word in. I've never been unhappy with my dimension. A fast PC gets better numbers, and I do all my compiles there, but the ND "feel" is wonderful. I hooked a modern monitor (Ilyama VisonMaster Pro 17") to it, and it was so clear and sharp that I nearly cried. -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: lkjensen@dannug.dk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:37:40 GMT Organization: Image Scandinavia Message-ID: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. I am using the following equipment: Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro 32 MB RAM Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM SoundBlaster AWE32 ADI Microscan 5A monitor The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very pretty resolution:-)) When I first installed NS and changed the video-driver to Matrox it worked fine, but the next day the problems started. Later I disconnected the CD-ROM drive, and NS worked fine - for a moment, but after two logins, the problem started again. I have also tried with a EIDE CD-ROM drive (Creative 8xspeed), but the same problem occurred. I am loading the following drivers: Matrox MGA Millennium (2MB) (v3.30) PS2 Mouse (v3.32) DPT 2x24/3224 PCI SCSI Adapter (v3.32) SoundBlaster 16 (v3.30) EIDE And ATAPI Device Controller (v3.34) Intel 824X0 PCI host Brigde (v3.31) ISA/EISA Bus support (v3.35) PCI Bus Support (v3.30) PS2 keyboard (v3.30) Floppy Disk Drive (v3.30) On-board serial Ports(v3.30) On-Board parallel port(v3.30) I have also tried the 3.31 version of the Matrox driver, but I think threre are more problems with this driver, because it doesn't specify any Memory Range in the Configure.app I hope there is some one who has a solution to this problem? And is this problem general for NS3.3/intel or is it the Matrox Millennium and driver? Thank You Lars Kilsaa Jensen E-mail: lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL)
From: buddyc@ibm.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:31:36 -0600 Organization: NeoSoft, Inc. Message-ID: <32DC0948.2269@ibm.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <E409zE.8ru@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit David Evans wrote: > > In article <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, > Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and > >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, > >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing > >with Dimension? > > The ND NXFactor's at around 0.7, and I see PCs with 2+ ratings all the time. > The Mullenium's supposed to be quick, so I'd guess it'd be in the higher range > of PCs. > Way faster than the ND is my educated guess. running both ... the Matrox (4MB) is speedier. I would agree that it is over 2x as fast. Call me crazy but I really prefer to work on the ND ... I have a great Intel setup (20" sony, 200pp) but it truely lacks the elegance of black hardware ;-) Keep in mind that the ND actually runs the Display PostScript interpreter on the 040 and simply uses the i860 to draw rectangles and images on the screen. Buddy
From: "T.E. Biesinger" <teb@eng.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available!
From: James Kniest <kniest@halcyon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Desperately Seeking SIMM Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 23:05:54 -0800 Organization: kniest Message-ID: <32DC81D2.2977@halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need a 32K DSP SIMM upgrade. Anyone want to sell one? I'll even consider buying the whole box for it. Thanks, Jim Kniest (kniest@halcyon.com) 747 Puget Lane Edmonds, WA 98020 (206) 487-7052 (days)
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <SHESS.97Jan15093829@slave.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > When it comes right down to it, you really only have one dimension > for decisions - how important is your data? Say your system dies > without backup. How much would you pay to get the data back? > Nothing? $1k? $100k? $1M? That's why I'm leery of tape. Magnetized heads, _touching_ my data, sliding back and forth for hundreds of feet on a thin oxide layer. Yuck. Also, with tape one completely gives up the capability to boot from the medium in an emergency, which one tends to need at just the same time one needs a good backup.... > From there, consider convenience. Any backup device which cannot > contain your _entire_ system is a compromise. Any time you have > to pick and choose what to backup, you are taking the chance that > you'll forget something important. If you have to swap tapes/carts > to complete the backup, you'll never reliably do the backups. > If you can just pop the tape in and leave for supper or whatever, > that's a big advantage. Strongly agree with all of this. I've been doing good incremental autobackups to oppies since mid-1992, with a series of scripts that pretty much make sure I can always restore my system to its state of 12 hours ago, and get back any file that was around a week, a month, or three months ago. I have been profoundly anal in segregating /Local* from the system distribution, so I would of course get the latter back from CD-ROM, once I buy one of _those_. People who were in on the Great Disk Deal of 1994 will remember that I lost my primary hard drive, with _zero_ warning, in the midst of shipping boxes all over the world. I lost about two hours of work, most of which I succeeded in reconstructing from memory and email. Anyway, nowadays my filesystem is a bit bigger, about 1.1 GB of user files. My level-0 backup gzips to about 370 MB, and the script has to dip temporarily into 104%-full territory on the hard drive to break it up into pieces that will fit on one oppy. This is such a pain that it's been months since I've done a level-0, and the incrementals, which run without my interference, are themselves getting big. Plus, the oppy itself is getting unreliable, so it's time for new hardware. I think I can live with half-gig media, but as you say there are obvious advantages to larger ones. > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If the > drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ choice will > save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an _advantage_ > for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that you aren't > going to be storing files you frequently need to access on the > tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? Assuming in the worst case that the data will be in a gzipped tarfile, so that random access is not an option, isn't the random-access medium _still_ at least as good a purely serial medium as the tape is? > In my opinion, if you want to use a removable as a backup device, > Syquest is the worst option (winchester based), Iomega is better > (floppy based) and MO is best (optical). You want things to be > robust. This is certainly in line with my own thinking, though I've heard passionate defense of both SyQuest and Jaz since my original posting. I am now leaning toward a cheap Sony CD-ROM and a 640-MB DynaMO, but before I dismiss the PD drives (or for that matter CD-R technology, which I have heard rumors we can't use) I would like to hear whether anyone has tried these alternative optical technologies. The PD drives do seem to be a slight win on price. > Again, if you're going to use it as a backup device, I highly > recommend making sure it's large enough to contain your entire system. Doing that without compression is a luxury that I haven't had for at least five years now, given the 230 MB size of the NeXT oppies. I'll have to think about how to balance that convenience against affordability and emergency bootability, as well as random access. But I _will_ be doing twice-nightly backups by script, even if the medium requires me to tie up my processor's 'nice' cycles gzipping the way I do now. So the argument that inadequate space will lead me to cut corners is moot. Give me five minutes to |==================================================== check news and log out, | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu THEN you can dial 911. |====================================================
From: marcel@sysyem.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 15 Jan 1997 07:51:05 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bi299$jog$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> In article <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) writes: > Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: > : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo > : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except > : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It > : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install > : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it reports > : only one Gig. > > Irritating, isn't it? > > During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. > Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. Hmm, this is the Seagate Hawk on my cube: Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 1890644 1330001 371578 78% / /dev/sd0b 138957 9 125052 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 1890644 1330001 371578 78% /private/vm/swapfile.front So, although my disk is also partitioned, it certainly has more than one gig in the primary partition. I have to admit that I don't know why the first poster is having problems. Marcel
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Toshiba Tecra -- dual boot Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:57:08 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970115145602.1116A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a single partition now on my Tecra with NS 3.3 on it. I need to run some Win95 programs and am weighing my options. If I don't want to reinstall NS then I can't use the current internal hard drive, right? Another option is to buy a second internal hard drive, install Win95 on it, and swap when I want to run Win95. Any problems with that? The last option I've thought of is to buy an external hard drive and do the same. First, can I get one for the Tecra and second, can I fairly simply configure the machine to boot off the external hard drive? Any other options? Thanks for any help. Robert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 06:20:46 +0000 > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people have reported success with them). Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP program (as far as I know it) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: murao@kobe-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Sender: news@icluna.kobe-u.ac.jp (news-admin) Message-ID: <murao.97Jan15142633@methuss.in.kobe-u.ac.jp> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:26:33 GMT Distribution: comp Content-Type: text/plain References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Organization: Computer and Systems Engineering, KOBE University, JAPAN Hi, We have both the NS/Intel (Pentium 166MHz) with Matrox Millenium and NeXT Cube Dimension in our institute. I've never measure their performance index. However, definitely NS/Intel machine is faster. It seems that the display performance mostly depends on the CPU performance. --- Hajime MURAO <murao@kobe-u.ac.jp> NeXT/MIME mail bienvenu! A professional? No, I am not professional. I am an amateur. "Amateur" comes from the latin "amare":to love. If you do not love what you do, you do not deserve to do it.
From: enigma <llay@uape-15.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody else have problems w/ SCSI on NSFIP 3.2? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:22:40 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.970115180218.18388A-100000@uape-15.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a general question, actually. I've been trying to reinstall NSFIP 3.2 back on my computer; however, I wasn't able to because of what appears to be SCSI connection problems. I have DPT SmartCache III with 3 SCSI HD, 1 Syquest 105 drive, 1 SCSI Zip Drive, and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. I do not understand why NS is so sensitive (or should I say over sensitive) to SCSI configurations and errors. For example, on my initial trial, it keeps giving me read block errors when reading from the CDROM (with no medium in the two removable drives). Later, with the two removable drives disconnected, trying to install NSFIP, gave me kernal panic and hence failed; with the two removable drives connected and media inserted in them, the installation then proceeds haphazardly without error. The reason I wonder about NS's over sensitivity to SCSI is that I also have Linux installed--and it gave me absolutely no error nor failure. Is this because of the brand of SCSI card that I'm using? or is my assessment correct about NS's over sensitive to SCSI?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hacking a NeXT mouse cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E42CLA.EtC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:55:58 GMT References: <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org>, Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> wrote: > >Why, after opening my NeXTstation to look at the memory configuration, >does it always boot into the ROM monitor and deliver me an error which >resembles: > >"default boot device not found" > Perhaps you need to set the boot command to "sd" using the p command. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* SIMMS okay for NeXTstation 25Mhz? Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:41:49 -0800 Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC, Canada Message-ID: <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> Summary: Want to be sure I buy the right thing... What with the Apple/NeXT merger, I figure I should wait a little longer before buying a new machine, and so to get more life out of my aging NeXTstation I'm going to give it more memory, going from 20MB to 32MB. Checking prices I see that 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* parity SIMMS are cheaper than the 4x8 70ns 30pin 8-chip non-parity SIMMS that are usually recommended (well, 80-100ns are recommended, but I don't know that such things can be bought new any more). However, I seem to remember seeing someone say that the tried the 3-chip variety of SIMMs and had problems, which seems to go against my intuition since I'd have thought the 3-chip kind would be functionally equivalent to the 9-chip kind. SO, I'm hoping to hear from some people out there who have experience either way... Advice of any kind welcome... Melissa. P.S. Similarly, I believe that it doesn't hurt that the SIMMs are 60ns (60ns seems to be as cheap as 70ns), but I'd appreciate it if someone could confirm this too.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151341.FAA17243@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 8af66466c8f903d0053172e014beb7ed - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Beginner questions Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 8af66466c8f903d0053172e014beb7ed - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Bill Bumgarner <bbum@friday.com> Original Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:53:29 -0500 > Lynx and pgp have both been compiled for NS-- anyone have URLs? Well, FTP sites can't put PGP on them since the DOD doesn't want anyone getting their hands on it. You can get it directly from MIT though... lynx you can get in this folder: ftp://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/apps/internet/www/lynx/ TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
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(There is always help available from you online service if you do not know how to post to newsgroups, but it's pretty simple... once you modify your letter...250 newsgroups shouldn't take more than 30 to 60 minutes... Then just sit back and wait. STEP 4 You are now in business for yourself, and should start seeing returns within 7 to 14 days! Remember, the Internet is new and huge. There is no way you can lose. Now here is how and why this system works: Out of every block of 250 posts I made, I got back 5 responses. Yes, thats right only 5. You make $5,00 in cash, not checks or money orders, but real cash with your name at #5. Each additional person who sent you $1.00 now also makes 250 additional postings with your name at # 4, 1000 postings. On average then, 50 people will send you $1.00 with your name at # 4 ....$50,00 in your pocket! Now these 50 new people will make 250 postings each with your name at # 3 or 10,000 postings. Average return, 500 people = $500 They make 250 postings each with your name at # 2 = 100,000 postings = 5000 returns at $1.00 each=$5,000.00 in cash! Finally, 5,000 people make 250 postings each with your name at # 1 and you get a return of 60,000 before your name drops off the list. And that's only if everyone down the line makes only 250 postings each! Your total income for this one cycle is $55,000. From time to time when you see your name is no longer on the list you take the latest posting you can find and start all over again. The end result depends on you. You must follow through and repost this article everywhere you can think of. The more postings you make, the more cash ends up in your mailbox. It's too easy and too cheap to pass up!! So thats it. Pretty simple sounding stuff, huh? But believe me, it works! There are millions of people surfing the net every day, all day, all over the world. And 100,000 new people get on the net every day. You know that, you've seen the stories in the paper. So, my friend, read and follow the simple instructions and play fair. Thats the key, and thats all there is to it. Print this out right now so you can refer back to this article easily. Try to keep an eye on all the postings you made to make sure everyone is playing fairly. You know where your name sould be. If you're really not sure or still think this can't be for real, then don't do it. But please print this article and pass it along to someone you know who really needs the bucks, and see what happens. REMEMBER...HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. YOU DON'T NEED TO CHEAT THE BASIC IDEA TO MAKE THE BUCKS! GOOD LUCK TO ALL, AND PLEASE PLAY FAIR AND YOU WILL WIN AND MAKE SOME REAL INSTANT FREE CASH! *** By the way, if you try to deceive people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not sending th bucks to the people already included, you will not get much. I know someone who did this and only got about $150 (and that's after two months). Then he sent the 5 bills, people added him to their lists and in 4-5 weeks he had over $10.000! TRY IT AND YOU'LL BE HAPPY!!!! :))))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.transputer,comp.sys.unisys,comp.sys.xerox,comp.sys.zenith.z100,comp.terminals,comp.terminals.bitgraph,control From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: <cancel.5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Control: cancel <5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5bkem0$fah@nr1.ottawa.istar.net> no reply ignore Organization: Semi-Automatic Chain Letter Remover Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 05:37:39 GMT Sender: martin.boucher@cgocable.ca ($$$ EASY MONEY $$$) ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator
From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PC Mouse with black Hardware Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:21:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970116142100.JAA20830@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> Here's some information on this which I saved from a while back. William pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net (P.J.L.van Emmerik) wrote: >>Some time ago a have seen an offering of an adapter that makes it >>possible to use a standard PC-mous on a black NEXT. >>Does anyone know where i can get such a convertor, >>or does anyone have a schematic of how to make such >>a converter? >>Pleace Email to: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net. >>P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >>Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >>Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >>-- >==================================================================== >from: http://peanuts.leo.org/FAQ/NeXTFAQ.098.html >5.24 What are the NeXT mouse connections? >mouse, connector Read the following instruction. >Thanks to Alvin Austin (austin@cs.USask.Ca) I have the information I >need on the NeXT mouse connections. > Pin Function > 1 +5v > 2 X Encoder Phase A > 3 X Encoder Phase B > 4 Y Encoder Phase A > 5 Y Encoder Phase B > 6 Right Button > 7 Left Button > 8 Ground >P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. >Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo >Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands >-- ===================================================================== From a Logitech WWWW page: Logitech Pointing Device Hardware Information Product Support Document # 1410 The following are the pin-outs for Logitech mice as documented in the Logitech Mouse Technical Reference and Programming Guide. Note that the wire colors are provided only for the bus mouse. Wire colors are not available for serial or pix-port mice. Serial Mouse Logitech's Type M, Type V and Type W serial mice are available with either a standard RS232C subminiature DB9S female connector compatible with the IBM AT, or an adapter for a DB25S subminiature female connector compatible with the IBM PC/XT. 9 pin 25 pin Wire Name Comments shell 1 Protective Ground 3 2 Receive Data Serial data from host to mouse 2 3 Transmit Data Serial data from mouse to host (for power only) 7 4 RTS 8 5 CTS 6 6 DSR 5 7 Signal Ground 4 20 DTR RTS = Request to Send CTS = Clear to Send DSR = Data Set Ready DTR = Data Terminal Ready To function correctly, both the RTS and DTR lines must be positive. The lines DTR-DSR and RTS-CTS must NOT be shorted. Implement the RTS toggle function by setting the RTS line negative and positive again. The negative pulse width is at least 100ms. After a cold boot, the RTS line is usually set to a negative level. In this case, setting the RTS line to a positive level is also considered an RTS toggle. Bus Mouse The Logitech bus mouse has a male D-subminiature or a male miniature circular connector, similar to the Microsoft InPort connector. Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal Black 1 +5V +5V Brown 2 X2 XA Red 3 X1 XB Orange 4 Y1 YA Yellow 5 Y2 YB Green 6 Left SW1 Violet 7 Middle SW2 Gray 8 Right SW3 White 9 GND Logic GND SHIELD shell chassis chassis PS/2 (PIX) Mouse The mouse cable assembly has a six pin miniature circular (mini-DIN) plug for attaching to the host. Pin Wire Name 1 DATA 2 Reserved 3 Ground 4 +5V Supply 5 CLK 6 Reserved Shield Chassis Bi-directional transmission is controlled by the CLK and DATA lines. Both are fed by an open collector device which lets either host or mouse force the line to "0". During non-transmission, CLK is at "1" and DATA can be at "0" or "1". The host can inhibit mouse transmission by forcing CLK to "0". If the host inhibits the mouse while it is transmitting, the byte must be retransmitted (if the inhibit state arrived before the 11th clock). ========================================================================== ====== Seems to me that, using a Logitech Bus mouse you have to make the following conversion NEXT Wire Mini-DIN Logitech Microsoft Pin Function Color Pin P-Series Signal InPort Signal 1 +5v Black 1 +5V +5V 2 X Encoder Phase A Brown 2 X2 XA 3 X Encoder Phase B Red 3 X1 XB 4 Y Encoder Phase A Orange 4 Y1 YA 5 Y Encoder Phase B Yellow 5 Y2 YB 6 Right Button Gray 8 Right SW3 7 Left Button Green 6 Left SW1 8 Ground White 9 GND Logic GND Not Used Violet 7 Middle SW2 Not Used ?? SHIELD shell chassis chassis P.J.L. van Emmerik Holec Projects B.V. Email: pemmerik@solair1.inter.NL.net PO.BOX 565, 7550 AN Hengelo Phone: +31 74 2558 688 The Netherlands -- William Adams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Possible to use monochrome monitor on color turbo (non-adb) Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:02:12 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.853405288@idiom.com> References: <5bgg6d$jot@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: >Is it possible to use a monitor from a turbo monochrome on >a color turbo? My monitor needs replacement and a used one >costs too much. No. -jcr
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:35:47 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> Cc: nineteen@onramp.net In <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> Richard C. Logan wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? > In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and less widespread than zip. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151353.FAA17785@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:52:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary my .02: CD-ROM: I have el cheapo CD-ROM that I got awhile back and it has worked fine (never played music through it, I've got a stereo for that about 3 feet from here) Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. (those prices may even be lower now) === BACKUPS: I've got a nightly backup script that I wrote working with my SyQuest EZ135 drive. It is designed to backup all the files which have changed since the last time the backup was run, and it works fairly well (ie no problems since November). The EZFlyer230 will cost you around $230 after the $55 mailin rebate (offer ends Feb 28th) NOTE: goto http://www.syquest.com and checkout the rebate form and the trade in offer (ie they will give you $100 for any old drive towards the purchase of a EZFlyer, the drive doesn't have to work!!!!!!!!) No, you _can't_ get the mailin rebate and the trade-in offer The EZFlyer is truly p&p w/NeXT hardware, no disktab, etc. There's also the SyJet 1.5gig/cart that sells for $500 (external, I think the internal is $400, again, see their web page). Both of these are going to be as fast as your hard drive, or even faster. Just my thoughts. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151355.FAA17924@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: nineteen@onramp.net (Richard C. Logan) Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:28:43 -0600 > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a > NextStation? yes, it can, no disktab needed. You just plug in and go. Were I to buy a drive today, I'd probably go for the EZFlyer230 (see my other post "re: PD Drives on Black??" that I just sent off for more) which also "just works" with NeXT hardware. let me know if you need more info, I've got an EZ135 right here TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TouchScreen on OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:39:20 -0500 Organization: TofuSoft Message-ID: <jchan-ya023580001601971039200001@news.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is it possible to hook up a touch screen to an OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human)
From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:50:00 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <5blm7o$q72@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: } Hi } } I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. } } I am using the following equipment: } } Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro } 32 MB RAM } Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) } DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller } Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI } Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM } SoundBlaster AWE32 } ADI Microscan 5A monitor } } The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, } the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading } and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen } some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), } there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. } } If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very } pretty resolution:-)) I doubt it is the Matrox _driver_. It might be your settings, what resolution, pixel depth and refresh rates have you tried? I'd recommend going with lower refresh rates and see if that helps. Also, try getting the latest Matrox driver from NeXTAnswers. Even the Beta drivers are quite reliable. Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? I've had similar problems when trying to get it configured... Send me e-mail if you are still stuck... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111500.291@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jburton@nwu.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:15:00 GMT A cheap backup solution I'm using: I run a Linux box with a QIC-80 Tape which you can buy for around 150$. The new Travan tapes can store several Gig and cost around 30$. The Linux ftap-driver works perfectly. The whole thing is not really fast, but for backups adequate. I do once per month a complete backup which takes about 4 hours / 800MB (using compressed afio) and some incremental Backups between. I regard this solution more reliable than the NeXT OD. BTW: Using Linux afio, even if the tape has some fault, afio can skip the damaged part and recover almost everything. This is *much* better than doing a huge tar.gz over the disk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111910.354@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Disorganization References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:19:10 GMT In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to time. This might not be too bad if you have the right software. Just try it.
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 16 Jan 97 10:27:28 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16102728@howard.one.net> References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT In article <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article <E3uy20.E9u@nidat.sub.org>, > > Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium > > > battery on the main board for an hour or two. > > For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, > > short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > > Voila! No password. > Voila! Fried hardware. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. But, but, what if The Bad Guys are after you, and you only have a couple seconds? You don't have time to wait for the capacitor to drain! So you use the paper clip trick, start the boot (aha, no boot password), and ... dammit, fsck, we don't have time for fsck. It's booting again, arggghhh! Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 16 Jan 97 10:23:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16102347@howard.one.net> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <SHESS.97Jan15093829@slave.one.net> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-reply-to: jburton@nwu.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT In article <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. One reason is probably that a $600 DAT can write a 2G uncompressed tape in one sitting, and with compression you can reasonably expect 3G (and if you're compressing text only, 4G or more :-). If you are only archiving 500M, well, it doesn't make much difference either way. So far as the failure rate, the way I look at it is that MO is likely to be online an order of magnitude more than something like tape. The only time my tapes are online is during the backup (and during a restore, of course). If you treated your MO as if it were a tape, then you're safe enough, naturally. But I'm not willing to recommend it in a public forum because I suspect that too many people would compromise the archival nature of an MO by using it as an extension of their random access media. This is all somewhat mooted if you have something with a WORM style filesystem and the appropriate OS support. If you can only write the media once, right there you've done yourself a tremendous favor! I wish that CD-R worked that way. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If > the drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ > choice will save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? I can't say much to that, as I don't have much experience with music tapes _or_ CDs. OTOH, part of the reason DATs are expensive is because they don't share parts with consumer electronics. CDs probably do, but I don't know about MOs and the like. > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an > _advantage_ for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that > you aren't going to be storing files you frequently need to > access on the tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? This is probably mostly IMHO. With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part of the user. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 16 Jan 97 10:31:19 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16103119@howard.one.net> References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In-reply-to: far@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT In article <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) writes: I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never just got to where it _worked_. Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out the exact interaction that was going on, though. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: suzawa@curly.cc.emory.edu (Satoru M. Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:51:31 -0500 Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5blpr3$4f0@curly.cc.emory.edu> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: : Hi : : I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. : : Lars Kilsaa Jensen : E-mail: : lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL) I had the exactly the same problem with my Intel machine running 3.3p1. I have Millennium with 4MB and Symbios810 based SCSI card. I had video card in the first PCI slot and SCSI card in the second and got the problem described by you. Changing PCI slots to 3rd for SCSI card and 4th for video card auto-magically fixed the problem. I'm not sure why it could fix the problem but I suspect something with Matrox driver (I'm using 3.31), PCI driver and Plug-n-Pray. Hope that your problem would be fixed in same manner. Good luck! Satoru Uzawa, uzawa@uclink4.berkeley.edu (No NeXTmail yet)
From: giddings@barbarian.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Working PM on portables (Tecra in particular)? Date: 17 Jan 1997 00:30:38 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bmh7e$1b5u@news.doit.wisc.edu> I have a tecra 720cdt and the biggest annoyance, by far, is the fact that suspend/resume doesn't work under NeXTStep. It wouldn't be so bad except that at random times my bios seems to reset to power-off-resume mode so that when I next try to power it on, I have to go through a 30 minute fsck cycle. I really would like a working APM under NextStep, so much so that I have started gathering information to write a driver myself. There's one crucial piece missing - information about the mach kernel's interaction with APM. I have tried to get this from NeXT, and even though my sales rep there promised support on this issue when I signed up and paid a gob of money to them, he recently told me they won't give that info out. So, I'm hoping for one of two things: 1) That someone out there has figured out the kernel calls for APM 2) That others besides myself bombard NeXT with email, making it clear that APM support is important to them. I think one of the reasons NeXT tech is so reticent is that they aren't aware of anyone besides me clamoring for better power management support. It may really help motivate them if I wasn't the lone voice. Please email NeXT if this is important to you. Specifically, ask_next@next.com and feedback@next.com Thanks -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT Organization: Borland International Message-ID: <5bmijt$7d5@newslist.borland.com> References: <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? john tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) wrote: >In <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> Richard C. Logan >wrote: >> Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? >> >In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: >> Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? >Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has >standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software >write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in >performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and >less widespread than zip. >Tim >-- >Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu >Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz >Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 >Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: thrall@serv.net (Dean Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need NS portable info Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:39:10 GMT Organization: ServNet Internet Services Message-ID: <5bmooe$2b5@brockman.serv.net> I am thinking of getting a portable computer to run NeXTSTEP4.x and Win95 (yuck) and was wondering if someone could pass along any experiences with running NS on a laptop. Thanks for your time, dean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701161811.NAA11237@nerc3.nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc3.nerc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 13:08:27 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Original Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 12:19:10 +0100 Message-ID: <9701161119.AA00344@gamelan.shnet.org> > TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. Oh duh, I knew that. I claim temporary stupidity due to final exams. Thanks for the correction > BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports > at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to > time. This might not be too bad if you have the > right software. Just try it. It seemed to me that the overruns were contributing to panics when I ran my port at 57600, so I dropped it down to 38400. Anyway, now I am thinking that someone said that ISDN didn't use TTYDSP anyway..... ugh. I'll see if I can find the post I was thinking of when I started this whole thing. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD-Recordable? Date: 17 Jan 1997 04:30:03 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5bmv8b$1r4k@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> Question: I bought a NeXT Station from a clearence at a University. This machine came with a 3.0 CD and a licence for 3.3. I have managed to secure a 3.3 disk temporarily, so I would like to make a copy of it. (This is legal right?) Unfortunately NT/95 won't read the disk. So is there freely available burning software that will run under 3.3 or 3.0? or is there Software for NT/95 that will let me copy a next CD-ROM? Thanks, Geof -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Over-clocking ADB 'stations? Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:47:56 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970112043342.29016A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <32D60F99.6FEC@us.oracle.com> <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5b92e0$130@news.wco.com> The recent talk about the differences between older NeXTstations and ADB models (which use the turbo chipset) has got me thinking... Has anyone tried overclocking a 25 Mhz station with the newer Turbo-style chipset? I winder if the internal timing would work at 33 Mhz (provided the '040 can handle it). hmmm... -Isaac
From: jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca (Jason) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Station memory question Date: 15 Jan 1997 21:18:24 GMT Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Hello everyone, A friend of mine bought some time ago a used Color station, non-turbo. Wanting to add to the memory he opened the case to figure out what kind and how many slots he had. As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots, something I have never heard of before. The board also has a rather large chip with RAMDAC written on it, something I don't recall having seen the last time I opened the case on my mono station. This leads me to suspect that what he has is in fact a station box with a cube board in it. The Rom monitor memory command reports slot content in pairs, and knows there are indeed 8 slots. There is a mixture of parity and non-parity ram, but the owner has never reported any necessity of nursing the boot process in any way. Also, if you're still with me, the NeXTAnswers report on memory upgrades reports that 8MB is the largest SIMM size that can be installed. This same report makes no mention of a board (cube or otherwise) with 8 72-pin slots. So the questions are: Is this indeed a cube board? and Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? and Will it make any difference to purchase parity or non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? Thank you all in advance for your help! Have a good day, Jake -- Why you wanna be reading them long-haired books for boy? -Foghorn Leghorn
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Backing up Hard drive Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:21:39 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 I have an 040 Cube with a really loud 660 mb hard drive, i also have a 1 gig scsi drive that i want to put in its place. how can i format the 1 gig drive and move everything over to it. thanks- -Greg
From: Mike O'Connell <monkeyboy@hatman.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:13:01 -0600 Organization: Hatmen R Us Message-ID: <32DF267D.4070@hatman.com> References: <rr-1401972004500001@ztm07-06.dial.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: rr <rr@xs4all.nl> rr wrote: > couple a days ago I asked around if there was anybody who had succesfully > connected a macintosh to a (21") NeXT MegaPixel display. Nobody seemed to > have any real answers. > However I did get a lot of responses from people who are interested in this. > I've looked around and found a DB15-13W3 ( the latter being the one on the > MP) mac to > *Sun* video cable. Has anybody tried this (on a Sun or a NeXT) ? > How different is the pin-out of the Sun monitors from the NeXT ? I believe the Sun and NeXT are fairly similar - though I haven't come across any concrete monitor pinouts for the NeXT. However, following Andrew's advice, I did pop over to Griffin Technologies and searched their monitor database. Unfortunately that told me the resolution supported by the monitor is 1120x832 @ 76Hz. Because the hardware supports a single resolution, and because no system I've heard of (aside from the black NeXT hardware) outputs this resolution, there's no easy way to connect the monitor up to a "normal" system (I use that term loosely ;). That's not to say that, with the necessary technical information and know-how, you couldn't make the monitor work at a different resolution - say 1024x768 (fairly close) or 1152x860 (ditto). However, that would probably require modification of the digital card in the monitor - something that shouldn't be done without detailed information. I've been looking most of the night for information like this and haven't turned up anything, though if anyone has this kind of info I'd really appreciate it (I'd like to breathe new life into a _nice_ 21" MegaPixel display which is sitting on top of my 040/33 slab). Sorry if this was a downer... -- Mike monkeyboy@hatman.com * The box said "requires Windows '95 or better" * * So I bought it - I have a Macintosh! *
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: 17 Jan 1997 01:32:51 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.853493403@idiom.com> Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery dying? advTHANKSance, -jcr
From: HisMajesty <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Indy Max Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:50:30 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Message-ID: <32DF9FC6.17FC@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anyone tell me what is the fastest chip that the Indy comes in?
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Control: cancel <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Date: 17 Jan 1997 10:12:32 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5bo8dg$8f1@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> Ident-User: liuyi <5bo82r$8e5@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 17 Jan 1997 15:35:09 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Message-ID: <5bo67d$gk@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <SHESS.97Jan15093829@slave.one.net> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> <SHESS.97Jan16102347@howard.one.net> shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the > tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, > rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable > media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more > dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the > temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part > of the user. Ah. Makes some sense---I didn't realize that your main reason was psychological, rather than technological. Anyway, thanks for your thoughts. Now I've got to make up my mind.... 76058 - 79566 - 77835 |====================================================== ( Hint: TX zipcodes ) | Joshua W. Burton (847)677-3902 jburton@nwu.edu 79059 - 75557 - 75801 |======================================================
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Color Station memory question Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E45nzu.HHw@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:55:06 GMT References: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Jason <jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca> wrote: > >As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots, something I have >never heard of before. My memory is hazy, but this sounds OK for a Color station. >The board also has a rather large >chip with RAMDAC written on it, something I don't recall >having seen the last time I opened the case on my mono >station. The RAMDAC is in charge of converting the digital RGB output from the colour display production logic to analogue video signals to send to your monitor. You need one for colour graphics, and don't for mono. That's why you don't have one in your mono slab. >This leads me to suspect that what he has is >in fact a station box with a cube board in it. > I don't think the cube board will fit inside a slab case. Plus, there were no cube boards with colour (and this no RAMDAC) and none with 8 72-pin SIMM sockets. >There is a mixture of parity and non-parity ram, but >the owner has never reported any necessity of nursing >the boot process in any way. > After a certain ROM version (63? 66? Can't remember) black hardware can handle mixed memory just fine. I have just such a thing in my cube. >Is this indeed a cube board? No. >Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? Don't remember. >and >Will it make any difference to purchase parity or >non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? > Not really. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
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From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: df says 2GB, WM.app/InfoPanel says 0 bytes--bug or Seagate problem? Date: 17 Jan 1997 19:50:56 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5bol70$1dr@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I too recently installed a 2GB Seagate Hawl 2XL (ST32151N) drive, putting it into an external enclosure and using NeXTSTEP 3.3 (Patch1) BuildDisk.app to partition and build it. BuildDisk.app's "Two Partitions" button *defaulted* to partition sizes of 2024MB and 25 MB (which adds up to the 2049 MB that is reported when the drive is recognized at boot up). After putting the drive in my Color NeXTStation Turbo, everything worked fine except that the WorkspaceMgr.app's Info/Info Panel reports "0 bytes". (I have a screen shot if you are interested). Df tells me otherwise: mally# 1> df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 2004579 635020 1169101 35% / /dev/sd0b 25085 9 22567 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 2004579 635020 1169101 35% /private/vm/swapfile.front Interestingly, the shelf in WorkspaceMgr.app's FileViewer reports correctly that I have "1.1GB available". /etc/fstab seems to have been correctly configured as follows: mally# 2> more /etc/fstab /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Does anyone know why the InfoPanel reports 0 bytes? And what happened to the 20 MB that was lost on /dev/sd0a (BuildDisk defaulted to 2024 MB and yet only 2004 MB are showing up). Where is Info Panel getting its information? If I built the new disk with partition sizes of 2,000MB and 49MB, would WM.app Info Panel report correctly? Thanks for any replies. Ed --- Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701171337.FAA04212@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:37:04 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT > well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? if it is a SCSI connector, it should if not, there's a trade-in offer at SyQuest's homepage where they'll give you $100 towards an EZFlyer if you turn in any (even non-SyQuest) drive (doesn't even have to work) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: hankin@aquanet.co.il Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ext hard drive enclosure Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:57:58 +0200 Organization: Aquanet LTD Message-ID: <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cache-Post-Path: cache!unknown@ppp135-4.aquanet.co.il Hi! I'm looking for ext. ide hard drive case ( connected through parallel port ) I've seen : - anteck ks 510 for ~ $80 - nexar REMOVABLE IDE HARD DRIVE CADDY for ~ $30 - Cost effective 3.5" Parallel Port for ~ ??? External Hard Drive Subsystem - circo Removable Hard Drive Kit for ~ $30 Can somebody tell me what is the best for me ( i gonna use it for data transfer from my home PC to work one ) ? Why is there $50 difference and what does it mean ? Thanks
From: HisMajesty <fatjelly@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Indy Max Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:56:12 +0800 Organization: The WatchTower Message-ID: <32E02DBC.38F@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> References: <32DF9FC6.17FC@mbox2.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit HisMajesty wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what is the fastest chip that the Indy comes in? Sorrry I posted this to the wrong newsgroup.
From: zalta@mally.Stanford.EDU (Edward N. Zalta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: WorkspaceMgr.app/Info Panel says 0 bytes for Seagate drive? Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:43:02 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5bp9r6$5a2@nntp.Stanford.EDU> The problem is that "df" tells me that there are 2,004 MB on my new Seagate drive, but WorkspaceMgr/Info Panel says "0 bytes". I recently installed a 2 GB Seagate Hawk 2XL drive (ST32151N) in my Color NeXTstation Turbo running NeXTSTEP 3.3 (Patch 1). I put the new drive in an external enclosure and used BuildDisk.app to partition and build it. In BuildDisk, I selected the "Partition" button and then the "Two" button, and the app then defaulted to the following two partition sizes: 2024 MB and 25 MB (which equals the 2049 MB that the operating system recognized on the new drive at boot up). The build was successful and I swapped the drives. Everything worked fine except for the fact that the WorkSpaceMgr.app's Info/Info Panel tells me that there are "0 bytes" on the Disk. The underlying unix says otherwise, for a "df command yields the following: mally# 1> Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 2004579 636961 1167160 35% / /dev/sd0b 25085 9 22567 00% /clients /private/vm/swapfile 2004579 636961 1167160 35% /private/vm/swapfile.front Interestingly, the shelf on the FileViewer in WorkSpaceMgr.app correctly prints (in light grey) that I have "1.1GB available on hard disk". The /etc/fstab was correctly configured as follows: mally# 2> more /etc/fstab # # DO NOT DELETE THIS FILE, IT IS REQUIRED FOR BOOTING /dev/sd0a / 4.3 rw,noquota,noauto 0 1 /dev/sd0b /clients 4.3 rw,noquota 0 2 Does anyone have any ideas why WorkSpaceMgr.app is not correctly reporting the disk size in the Info Panel? Where is it getting its information? Is there a workaround, i.e., a file that needs to be modified? Would I get this problem if I had altered the values in BuildDisk so that the drive was partitioned into a 2,000MB and a 49MB partition? What is the absolute maximum value that can be set for the main partition before this problem arises? Also, when df reports 2004 MB, what happened to the other 20 MB that should have been on the 2024 MB partition BuildDisk.app said it would build? Many thanks for any replies. Ed Edward N. Zalta Senior Researcher, Center for the Study of Language and Information Consulting Associate Professor, Department of Philosophy Stanford University Home Page URL = http://mally.stanford.edu/zalta.html
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Color Station memory question Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:58:45 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5bpaol$el@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> In article <5bjhj0$o34@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>, Jason <jake@hep.physics.mcgill.ca> wrote: >A friend of mine bought some time ago a used Color station, >non-turbo. >As it turns out, he has 8 72-pin slots [...] > This leads me to suspect that what he has is >in fact a station box with a cube board in it. >Is this indeed a cube board? If it displays in color, it can't be a cube board. All cubes don't have color. >Is the SIMM size really restricted to 8MB? Color non-turbo stations can use 1MB or 4MB 72-pin SIMMs. Group them in 2s and get 80ns or faster. Maximum RAM is 64MB. >Will it make any difference to purchase parity or >non-parity SIMMs given the mixture that already exists? No. Regards, Ken p.s. All of the above information is from the NeXT FAQ. -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: NA@nope.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:30:36 +1 Organization: The Copy Cat Shop Message-ID: <cancel.5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> References: <5bp5fp$drj@mtinsc01-mgt.ops.worldnet.att.net> EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: CD-R Media.
From: klui@cup.hp.com (Ken Lui) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DeepSpaceTech Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:51:46 GMT Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company Message-ID: <5bpabi$eg@hpax.cup.hp.com> I just wanted to say these guys at DeepSpaceTech are great. Got my order as promised and everything works. Despite the UPS guy handling it rough, all those peanuts did their job. The system is a station, and they went through the trouble of reinstalling the OS from scratch. I've assumed this because when I booted up the system, the machine was not in verbose mode and the OS asked which language I wanted to use. Just a satisfied customer, and neither I nor the company I work for are affiliated with them. Highly recommended. Regards, Ken -- Ken Lui, klui@cup.hp.com 19111 Pruneridge Avenue General Systems Division Cupertino, CA 95014 USA Open/Intelligent Warehouse Team 1.408.447.3230 FAX 1.408.447.7200
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Speed comparison... White vs Black boxes Date: 10 Jan 97 17:14:00 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AEFC295D-1D299E@207.147.50.154> References: <5b5ap3$cu5@news.next.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 10, 1997 6:56 AM, Eren Kotan <mailto:ekotan@merlin> wrote: > Yes, that would be the best of both worlds, network them together, use the > black box as a terminal to the PC and run all your Apps on the PC then > display the output on the NeXT computer. It would involve buying two > machines, but definitely the way to do it if you're a no-compromise, and > money is no object sorta person ;-} How would the speed be on a setup like this. I'm currently running a Mac network over ethernet with Filemaker Pro 3.0 serving some DB to a few networked Macs and it's abysmally slow. All these machines are PPC machines except the server which is a IIfx. Is NeXTStep better at client/server applications? Mitch
From: Peet Dale <dale@gidi.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Openstep/Mac 4.1 on a dual ppro system? Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 21:19:24 -0600 Organization: GIDI Message-ID: <32D5B53B.12E1@gidi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Next says that openstep/Mach 4.1 WILL NOT run on a dual pentium pro system UNLESS one pulls out one of the processors. Does anyone know of a workaround or can disprove this as a falicy? *** I know that openstep does not yet have SMP capability, but what I am after here is just using a single processor on my dual box (like win 95 does now) **** PLEASE oh PLEASE let me know as I want to buy and load it but cannot pull out CPUs because I also run Solaris and NT on the same box. Please reply via email to dale@gidi.com as I don't read news often enough! -Peet Dale
From: Emmett McLean <emclean@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Fix for fuzzy letters on black mono hardware? Date: 18 Jan 1997 05:57:02 GMT Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5bpone$r4i$1@news1.slip.net> Hi, The resolution of the letterson on my mono 17" monitor is fuzzy. Is there a way this can be fixed or am I doomed to having to buy another monitor? Thanks, e-
From: rr@xs4all.nl (rr) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 2.1 & Mac disks Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:45:06 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Message-ID: <rr-1801971045060001@ztm07-28.dial.xs4all.nl> Hi, I've been trying to get the nextcube to read mac-disks. THis doesn't work with NS 2.1 I know I should get a later version ( I do have 3.0 but I lack a cable to connect the cd-rom player to the CUbe -money is tight). Anyway, what I tried is format a msdos disk on the mac wiht Apple File Exchange. Then I translated several files for the Next to this msdos disk. Now I brought it to my NeXT. IT works fine with ordinary textfiles. But with programs like ppp there is a problem. First is that I don't seem to be able to extract tar files from the floppy. I tried tar -xvf {filename}. I seems that the cube doesn't recognize./find the files I'm referring too. How do I get it to look on the floppy disk ? Also when trying to install pppXXX-pkg ( package) I got an error saying that it couldn't read ppp.info. Why ? Translating the files to ms-dos format changes the naming of the files, but is this the cause of this ? I've already asked around if there is a ppp for NS 2.1. I hope so, if not I could use some help on configuring uucp. Anybody ? Rodney
From: averageguy1@juno.com (pete larou) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what constitutes an operating system Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 08:39:44 GMT Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Message-ID: <5anpbf$aec@news2.snfc21.pacbell.net> I was wondering what an operating system is. Is it just software. What is the difference between say windows and adobe photoshop for example? Also is it possible to run a system from a cd rom without having a hard drive installed. If this was possible would it make it impossible for a computer to get a virus? I'd appreciate any help with these questions. I have been playing with computers for 6 months now and i'm a fanatic. I am still not clear on alot of things about systems, i am very thirsty for knowledge. Thanks in advance. sincerly John you can post here or e mail me. stimpdog@ix.netcom.com
From: stimpy@castlerock.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: NeXT Laser printer problems, help please? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:07:10 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5b488e$200@tkhut.sojourn.com> Hi. My laser printer has recently decided to print a wide black smudge/smear thing on the first page of a printout, sometimes going on to teh second page (as it fades out).... I have only seen this on the last 3 times I have printed with it, I am afraid to keep trying things worried I could make it worse.... anyone ever see this, any ideas? it just happened all of a sudden.... thanks gary ________________________________________________________________ gcl@mail.sojourn.com NeXTmail/LipService is prefered Founder: The NeXTstep for Intel Processors HomeBrew Mailing List Owner: Network with a NeXT '040 Cube #4173 running NeXTstep v3.3 and a Intel i486dx2-66 running NeXTstep for Intel v3.3 _________________________________________________________________
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: no Direct-X compliant driver for Miro Crystal32S video Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:10:01 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48dp$rea@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I posted this article to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video, but I am also posting it here since many people who hung out in the group 2 1/2 years ago had this particular video card when it was the best available and compatible card for NEXTSTEP. ----- My video card is a Miro Crystal 32S (4MB PCI). It's based on the S3 928. I buoght it 2 1/2 years ago, at wihch time it was top-of-the-line. Miro's Win95 driver is not Direct-X compliant, and the company has told me that they don't plan to write a Direct-X compliant version since they are no longer selling the card (at least in the US). Does anyone else have this card and is there any way to get Direct-X to work with it? Is there a Direct-X compliant generic S3-928 driver, and is it possible to use this instead of Miro's driver? Or even the generic VGA driver? Or am I just out of luck until I buy a newer video card? -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: will NS3.3 Matrox Millenium driver work with NS3.2? Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:14:41 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5b48mh$ri9@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I've got a NEXTSTEP/Intel 3.2 system with a Miro Crystal32S video card. I'm thinking about buying a newer video card in order to use Direct-X applications in Windows95. The compatibility guides in NextAnswers seem to only go back to NEXTSTEP 3.3 and don't mention NEXTSTEP 3.2. In general, will a video driver from NextAnswers that claims to be for 3.3 work with 3.2 as well? Specifically, does anyone know if the Matrox Millenium driver will work with 3.2? Even though I am a student, $300 to upgrade to 4.0 or 3.3 is too much. -Karl ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: steffi@dgs.dgsys.com (Robert Nicholson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Toshiba Tecra -- dual boot Date: 17 Jan 1997 08:53:53 -0500 Organization: Digital Gateway Systems Message-ID: <5bo09h$b01@DGS.dgsys.com> References: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970115145602.1116A-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> As a Tecra owner myself I'd go the extra internal drive route. Remember it must be the Toshiba drive and you also want the housing. If you go the external route and can disable the IDE drive then you'll need a PCMCIA SCSI controller (Adaptec SlimSCSI)... You'll probably find the extra internal the least expensive route. Plus you'll still have portability if that's important.
From: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT & Bitsurfer ISDN Adapter Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:44:30 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32D590EE.7457@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK want to connect my neXT to an ISDN line was thinking about the the motorolla bitsurfer input anyone
From: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the best solution for a portable NeXT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:46:26 +0000 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32D59162.7100@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK what's the best solution for a portable NeXT computer
From: martin@datamodl.demon.co.uk (Martin Hargreaves) Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.tandy,comp.text.frame,comp.text.pdf,comp.text.sgml,comp.text.tex,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.osf.osf1,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sco.misc,comp.unix.shell Subject: Re: VIRUS ALERT Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:39:06 GMT Organization: Datamodel Ltd Message-ID: <853605586.12929.1@datamodl.demon.co.uk> References: <59nb2t$eck@news3.texas.net> <59nmve$phs@synthemesc.insync.net> <55pvzjh8t8.fsf@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu> paul@pbunyk.physics.sunysb.edu (Paul Bunyk) wrote: > >Actually... there was an ancient way to break a *given* mail programm >on a system you know too well: Theoretically if the mail program do >not allocate enough space for Subject: line, for example, and you feed it >a cerefully choosen long subject line, it can write itslef over some internal >structures of the program and mabe even cause some code to be executed. >Of course the mail program should be buggy (but sendmail *was* buggy, moreover, >it *is* buggy still) but I doubt that there still are people who can craft See recent issues of Phrack for "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit". Any fool can do it now. Most recent in this vein was using a long gecos field a while ago. >that ;-) As far as I remember Morrison's famous Internet worm exploited >something like this in Sun's sendmail... Morris's worm used the now very elderly DEBUG hole. >But you should not worry, Windows'95's mail can not have this bug! ><kidding!> See the NT security mailing list for recently posted buffer overrung exploits embedded in mail designed for Windows NT and 95. ;-) Security - it worse than you think... M.
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From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Date: 10 Jan 1997 02:46:44 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5b4aik$29s@news.us.net> References: <5b3dgv$oro$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote > Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > Video hw: I've got a CTX 1785 GMe 17" monitor, and it works fine with > the ATI mach32 or Matrox Millenium drivers at 1024x768 60 Hz ONLY. > With either card, if I increase the vertical refresh to 70 or 75 Hz, > the image on the monitor becomes fuzzier and dim. The same dimness > problem occurs if I increase the resolution to 1184x864, any refresh > rate. Is this usual for multiscanning monitors, or is my CTX just > severely lacking? (According to the CTX manual, up to 1280x1024 is > supported, but maybe it's just lying.) It's probably your CTX. For instance, my Idek 8617 17" monitor is rated for better than 1280x1024 and it will hold that image properly. However, it's really too fuzzy to be useful at that resolution. I usually use it at 1152x864 or 1120x832 for a decent picture. So, even if a monitor supports 1280x1024 @ 75hz (the electronics on the monitor will display that bandwidth), one still has to look at the resulting picture on the tube. Personally, I like the Nanao T2-17 series with the nice Trinitron tubes. .Bill Chin bchin@us.net
From: Jeff Hepp <nexthepp@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:32:12 -0800 Organization: Internet Express (800-592-1240 customer service) Message-ID: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this?
From: bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 18 Jan 1997 15:53:36 -0500 Organization: Visible Genetics Inc. Message-ID: <5brd8g$ej9@ampere.visgen.com> References: <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> <E3uy20.E9u@nidat.sub.org> <5bitut$ce6@ampere.visgen.com> <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> Summary: "fried?" how so? In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Art Isbell <aisbell@ix.netcom.com> wrote: >bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: >> In article <E3uy20.E9u@nidat.sub.org>, >> Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: >> > >> >Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium battery on the >> >main board for an hour or two. > >> For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, >> short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > >> Voila! No password. > > Voila! Fried hardware. Barring the possibility that the paperclip owner has built up a static charge large enough to cause problems (a possibility I didn't worry about; if they are are inside the NeXT, they must be aware of static already), please explain why shorting the battery terminals would necessarily result in "fried hardware". There's a small capacitor and, very likely, a resistor in series when you short the battery terminals. A small current flows while the capacitor discharges. That's it. I've done this quick-password-remove thing *many* times. Those Turbo NeXTstations live to this very day in my employ. Not one of them has complained of rough treatment. -bmw -- "I'd like to wish everyone a Happy New Year--with the exception of the man who invented the telephone." -- Mark Twain, 1891 Bruce M. Walker | Visible Genetics Inc. | bmw@visgen.com
From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:51:53 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970118225100.RAA25004@ladder01.news.aol.com> I have a 17" color MegaPixel display that works just fine (no fading that I can tell) for about 10 to 20 minutes and then it seems to "zoom in" to a spot on the screen while simultaneously fading to black. I can't use it then for about 6 HOURS later and then the whole cycle begins again. Obviously it sounds like a part getting hot, but 6 hours to cool down sounds extreme. I know Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on Black hardware repair (any rumours on Apple changing this?) but does anyone know of the (rough) costs of having them repair it? I REALLY love the display and refuse to run a PC monitor on my NeXT Station. If I can't repair the monitor then I'd rather buy another MegaPixel. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Scott Johnson
From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: About Dimension Date: 19 Jan 1997 03:09:17 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Message-ID: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Recently I am interested in the Dimension board, and I have some questions about it. Dimension has a NTSC input,right? Could the port do realtime video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time Movie on the fly? :) And does it has a NTSC output port? And is there any other good features on Dimension? Last question, where can I find useful information about all features of Dimension? Thank you very much in advance. -- 独玊城 = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <475852914532@digifix.com> Date: 19 Jan 1997 04:57:55 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <413853649874@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Me too: but different Bootup problems Date: 19 Jan 1997 01:29:15 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m2hgkew538.fsf_-_@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> References: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> <5br5tm$gvq@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Hello, I am having bootup problems too, I my system pauses at the exec_faxes for a long time ... probably a time out at the begining I thought it was a hostconfig problem so I followed all described bellow but did not help any pointers? thanks nick tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: > > tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: > > >Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it > >hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed > >that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file > >service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the > >system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for > >solving this? > > >Thanks. > > >Tom Payne > > Here's the solution, courtesy of Paul Lynch: > > At the boot prompt, type -s. > > This takes you to root prompt (#). > > Type: > > cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc > > This replaces /etc/hostconfig, solving the problem. > > Tom Payne > -- > Thomas Payne, MD > Clinical Computing Project > Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle
From: scollarw@cadvision.com (guzzibill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: 11 Jan 1997 18:07:07 GMT Organization: CADVision Development Corp. Message-ID: <5b8ksb$23di@elmo.cadvision.com> References: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> In-Reply-To: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> On 01/09/97, Mon-Sen Yang composed a News article about How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500?: ~Hi all, ~ ~We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our ~office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new ~2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and ~would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out ~the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if ~I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the ~full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, ~users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how ~should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to ~restore the data? ~ ~If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do ~the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. I have the following mounted on my Turbo Colour NeXT : Jan 6 20:46:13 guzzibill mach: EXABYTE EXB-8200 Rev 263H as st0 at sc0 target 5 lun 0 It takes 45 mins to backup 700 meg on a 1.3 gig hard drive. Restores are a snap! And I use SafetyNet as the application (commercial) to perform backup & restore activities. It has saved my disk-butt many times. They can be reached at : safetynet@systemix.com -- Bill Scollard - Scollard Holdings Ltd. Computer Systems : Cradle-to-Grave Calgary, Alberta, Canada
From: batmon@abico.com.tw (Mon-Sen Yang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to do the backup with Exabyte Model 8500? Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:24:23 GMT Organization: DCI HiNet Message-ID: <32d607a3.24511376@netnews.hinet.net> Hi all, We have just find a EXABYTE Model 8500 SCSI Backup device in our office, and would like to use it to backup NeXT Server. I buy a new 2GB 8mm DAT tape which will insert to the EXABYTE backup system, and would like to use it for backup. Can anybody tell me how to write out the "dump" command on the NeXT to do the full backup? In addition, if I would like to continue use the same tape (don't rewind after the full backup) and make another backup just backup users' information, users home directories' data, and directories' sturcture, then how should I write the "dump" command? And how to write the command to restore the data? If there is any good very easily understand refence about how to do the backup, please let me know too. Thank you. Best Regards, 法﹕舅batmon batmon@abico.com.tw Ability Enterprise Co., Ltd. Part of ABiCO Group
From: enigma <llay@uape-30.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 22:46:01 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.970118223824.2653C-100000@uape-30.ucsd.edu> References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <SHESS.97Jan16103119@howard.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <SHESS.97Jan16103119@howard.one.net> On 16 Jan 1997, Scott Hess wrote: > I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first > Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI > disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long > periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some > reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, > but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never > just got to where it _worked_. > > Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out > the exact interaction that was going on, though. I agree... I've always used both on my PC and my Mac--great for sneakernet. I'm also amazed at how sensitive NeXTSTEP is at SCSI. I mean, I have *NEVER* gotten my PC computer to work with NeXTSTEP completely. It's always been so flaky--with mediocre reliability at best. Interesting (and frankly, down right annoying) thing is, I don't have any problem like NeXTSTEP on other operating systems that I throw at my PC. Luke.
From: yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu (Yong J. Yoo) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: where can I find a ghostscript for OpenStep 4.0? Date: 19 Jan 1997 01:21:50 -0600 Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology Message-ID: <5bsi2e$7ql@charlie.cns.iit.edu> Hi, I am currently running OpenStep 4.0 on Intel system and have Lexmark winWriter 400 laser printer(not postscript printer). Can anyone tell me where I can find ghostscript, and if anyone knows if it will work with my printer? thanks Yong Yoo yong@charlie.cns.iit.edu
From: aris@next.com (Aris Colp) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Re: Mac->NeXTstation->printer Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Date: 11 Jan 1997 09:32:16 GMT Organization: NeXT Software Inc. Distribution: inet Message-ID: <5b7mn0$jin@news.next.com> References: <jak-ya023680003112960101170001@news.asu.edu> You can run CAP on the NeXTstation. It will make part of your hard disk (all of it if you want) into an Appleshare volume and export your printer as a MacIntosh printer. CAP is however a little difficult to configure - from memory about 2 years ago, but this may have changed. It is also free. A. PS: The computer science department at Melbourne University in Australia used to develop some part of CAP - you can get something from the URL: ftp://ftp.cs.mu.oz.au/mac/ John Kestner (jak@asu.edu) wrote: : If I have a Mac and a NeXTstation networked together, is it possible to : print from the Mac to a NeXT laser printer hooked up to the NeXTstation? Or : is there any other way to get from the Mac to the NeXT printer? : : Any help is much appreciated. : : john : : --- - ------- ------- : You're not going crazy, you're going sane in a crazy world! - The Tick : : jak@asu.edu : http://www.public.asu.edu/~jkestner/ -- Aris Colp (ALL OPINIONS ARE MY OWN) NeXT Technical Support (I DO NOT SPEAK FOR NeXT Software Inc.) aris@next.com; +1-415-780-3712; http://www.next.com/~aris
From: moetteli@citeu1.citeu.unige.ch Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Which modems doesn't work with OpenStep? Date: 18 Jan 1997 10:31:45 GMT Organization: University of Geneva Message-ID: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> Summary: Modem Hi I have to buy a modem (as cheap as possible) and can't do a trial and error. So I need to know what modems I shouldn't buy. Could anyone help me? Thanks Phil
From: mmcatee@pond.com (Mike McAtee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Urgent questions on Toshiba's Deskstation V+ Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 23:29:51 GMT Organization: FishNet Message-ID: <32d92234.1710120@news.pond.com> References: <32D6903F.189F@elastica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am using a Matrox Millenium with 4 megs and it flys . I get excellent ratings with this card. Any questions let me know Later On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:53:51 -0500, Robert Nicholson <robert@elastica.com> wrote: >I have some questions about the Deskstation V+ with the Tecra 720CDT > >1. > >How good is the video performance? > >A friend runs his with a Elsa Winner 2000 card and it really bites. He >can see windows redrawn at 1280x1024. > >Anybody using one with a Matrox Millenium 4MEG card? -Mike McAtee mmcatee@pond.com
From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to use JAZ on NeXT ? Date: 10 Jan 1997 15:24:14 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Message-ID: <5b5muu$ijm@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> I bought a JAZ and tested on Mac, OK. I connected it to my NeXTcube turbo running NS3.2 . The cartridge was bought preformatted with Mac format. While the cartridge is inserted into the JAZ on NeXT, it is mounted automatically to the NeXT in Mac format. Then I tried Disk->Initialize... After a while, NeXT reported error and eject the disk. I remembered 2yrs ago, I saw a post said that the JAZ is compatible with NeXT. Can you tell me what's wrong with me ? Do I need to do some low level reformat before the Initialization ? And how to do it ? Or is there any FAQ discussion on it ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong
From: mwm@math.tulane.edu (Michael Mislove) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: 15 Jan 1997 12:25:21 -0600 Organization: Tulane University Sender: mwm@spot.math.tulane.edu Message-ID: <x7vi8y3iem.fsf@spot.math.tulane.edu> References: <01bbfa5c$a104c440$9a128780@starlock.Uchicago.edu> <32CFE258.4144@sprintmail.com> In-reply-to: "Raymond L. Ehrlich"'s message of Sun, 05 Jan 1997 22:18:16 +0500 Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3).
From: harts@knoware.nl (Paul Harts) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Date: 20 Jan 1997 20:05:32 GMT Organization: Knoware Internet Message-ID: <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> In-Reply-To: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> Hi, I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. Thanks for any advice. Paul. -- ==================================================== | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | | the Netherlands | probably is one | | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | ====================================================
From: warnerr@beethoven.cs.colostate.edu ( richard warner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone try installing NS 4.1 onto EPS XL-133 Notebooks? Date: 20 Jan 1997 18:50:08 GMT Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523 Message-ID: <5c0ep0$2k3g@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Title says it all - looking at this model and wondering if the drivers, etc. exist for the video and CD-ROM, etc. ?? Thanks in advance. Rich
From: atheurer@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Matthew Theurer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 20 Jan 1997 15:00:34 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> Ident-User: atheurer In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: >Dave McGill <dave@pcdiscounters.com> writes: >>SPECIALS: >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 >Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but >for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it >works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail >order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at >least posting to the wrong newsgroup. Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). Andrew Theurer.
From: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cleaning a NeXT printer Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:23:35 GMT Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA Message-ID: <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: NeXT printer I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. thanks (please respond via email and the group) beckers
From: Lee MacNeill <macfrogg@ican.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need NS portable info Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:35:19 -0800 Organization: Onit Internet Service & Cybercafe Message-ID: <32E2BDC7.7D1B@ican.net> References: <5bmooe$2b5@brockman.serv.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Dean Johnson <thrall@serv.net> do a web search. I've seen a nextstep (intel)portable with probably next-special things n it. I have forgotten just where, however. -- ====================================================================== = Lee Andrew MacNeill = #include <disclaimer.h> = = ============================================== = macfrogg@ican.net = "I had a really, really *good* quote, but = = macfrogg@pathcom.com = I forgot it. Sorry." = ======================================================================
From: Andrew Dodd <dodd@on-it.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware Subject: Re: Q:mac to NeXT/Sun video (DB15-13W3) Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:39:42 -0800 Organization: Onit Internet Service & Cybercafe Message-ID: <32E2BECE.3FB4@on-it.net> References: <rr-1401972004500001@ztm07-06.dial.xs4all.nl> <32DF267D.4070@hatman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit aha! methinks spherical solutions sells the adaptor, and on a mac one can tweak,or alter the resolution to whatever you want up to a maximum of whatever that particular model supports, then it can be saved as a resolution setting, and you can just switch to it in the monitors and sound control panel. -- ====================================================================== = Lee Andrew MacNeill = #include <disclaimer.h> = = ============================================== = macfrogg@ican.net = "I had a really, really *good* quote, but = = macfrogg@pathcom.com = I forgot it. Sorry." = ======================================================================
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From: neal@sonnet.com (Josh Neal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Advice on NS laptops Date: 19 Jan 1997 20:55:04 GMT Organization: MacDaddy Computers Message-ID: <neal-1901971258420001@ppp11-mod.sonnet.com> I'm looking for advice on getting an Intel laptop to run OpenStep/Mach and OpenStep/NT on. Has anyone compiled a list of laptops that are known to work with Mach? Thanks, Josh Neal neal@sonnet.com
From: Erik Pennebaker <epenneba@uiuc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: openstep for mach/stealth64/i386 Date: 21 Jan 1997 01:58:42 GMT Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana Message-ID: <5c17si$ao8@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> I've got a Diamond Stealth64 card (Trio64V+) and can't get it to work. The error it gives on boot is that it can't reserve the memory map from 000a0000 - 000bfffff (the 2nd location listed on the expert list for memory maps - I might have missed some zeros). I've tried changing the range from 800 - 9fff, and then I get an error on the port address (which I know is right). I've tried the s3 generic, the diamond stealth, new drivers, old drivers, glue drivers, mold drivers, but get the same message. I've changed the large memory address that appears on the main config window to a reasonably large value, but this doesn't help. I've played with the id key thingies too. It appears to detect the card, but dies on reserving the memory location. Does anyone have any ideas? I can't really use anything in 640x480 BW... -Erik -- ----- Erik Pennebaker | http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/epenneba | epenneba@uiuc.edu If bushes were trees, trees would be fallin'. CCSO Workstation Support Group, University of Illinois My opinions
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: erotandi@netcom.com (Edhi Rotandi) Subject: Soundbox, CPU upgrade Message-ID: <erotandiE4C7MA.7Kp@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:44:33 GMT Sender: erotandi@netcom.netcom.com Hi all, I've just recently purchased a color turbo station (ADB). For some reason under the prefrence app, the mic setting cannot be set? (it's stuckat the zero position.) Is there afix to this?? Also, I notice in a Mac World ad, some company is selling a Quadra upgrade daughter card that goes upto 100MHz (I think it uses the 040 chip.) has anyone tried using it? is it usable?? Thanks Edhi
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:15:16 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5c1qe4$q1d@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> In article <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl>, Paul Harts <harts@knoware.nl> wrote: >Hi, > >I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black >hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. >Thanks for any advice. > >Paul. >-- > ==================================================== >| harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | >| the Netherlands | probably is one | >| NeXTmail Welcomed! | | > ==================================================== > > > The solution I have gone for involves adding an external SCSI drive (1GB) and transferring that to a machine on which I have a CD Writer (they are around $900 US these days, with software), after I have dumped whatever I want to back up onto the SCSI drive. I then burn a CD-R disk with the stuff off the external SCSI. I made the mistake of choosing Intel and Adaptec CD Creator software. I'd have done better to get a PPC Mac with "Toast" which would have greatly simplified writing funny format (i.e. non-DOS) discs (disc = CD-R, DISK = other sorts of disk). My friend got the Mac and Toast and is much happier! I believe the Yamaha CD Writers to be best, but that's just my opinion. Hope that helps :) david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cleaning a NeXT printer Date: 21 Jan 1997 07:22:28 GMT Organization: University of Calgary CPSC Message-ID: <5c1qrk$q33@linux.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> References: <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Keywords: NeXT printer In article <5c0non$5ak$1@news.eecs.umich.edu>, Becki Kain <beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu> wrote: >I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't >find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the >cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just >the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. > >thanks > >(please respond via email and the group) > >beckers > Much more likely you need to clean the various thin wires that control the deposition of charge on the drum. This takes a Q-tip or two and some isopropyl alcohol (accept no substitutes). Take care, and it is simple. There's a wire in the toner cartridge that needs cleaning too. There's a special little brush inside the machine (it is green -- choose the right one as there are actually two little brushes!). There are descriptions of the procedure in the User's Reference Manual chapter 16. david -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
From: Georgie Corona <gcorona@neptune.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Workstation For Sale Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:16:54 -0800 Organization: Neptune.Net (Neptune Consulting Group, Inc.) Message-ID: <32DB24D6.5679@neptune.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NeXT Color Workstation; 16mb mem, 400mb disk, 17" MegaPixel mon, sound box, mouse, keyboard, floppy drive,manuals, developers kit, lots of software, spare parts: mouse, floppy drive, batteries, etc. All in xlnt condition. $650.00 obo Call 714-893-5498
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS Installation FAQ? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:02:43 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4BB3.55E1@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is there a NeXTSTEP installation FAQ for Black hardware? Thanks, Jason
From: Jason Lincoln <jlincoln@us.oracle.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:59:36 +0000 Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Message-ID: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N. The new SCSI hard drive mounts fine but I do not know how to install NeXTSTEP onto it. I have NS 3.0 on cdrom and I have a NEC 6x SCSI cdrom connected to the NeXTstation and it works with the 100MB drive with NS loaded. When I boot with the new hard drive I get to a ROM monitor and I type b to boot. It examines the SCSI devices and then tries to load off of the cdrom and then craps out. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jason
From: brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Dale &) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Matrox Millenium vs. Diamond Stealth 3D 3000 Date: 14 Jan 1997 07:59:20 GMT Organization: University of Calgary Distribution: world Message-ID: <BRISINDA.97Jan14005920@fsd.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Hi all, I'm in the market for a high quality video/graphics card for an Intel system running OPENSTEP and have narrowed it down to these two cards. Can anyone provide any information on the cards in a comparative capacity if possible? Can anyone supply NXBench values for the Matrox and Diamond Stealth (4MB WRAM/VRAM) or other bench marks? Shopping around I get the impression that dealers are biased against the Matrox -- due mostly to higher cost it seems as they often have a great deal of difficulty justifying there biases any other way. Anyway, any information, recommendations etc. appreciated. Please reply by email (below) as I don't read this newsgroup very often. Dale --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html -- --- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: comiskey@netaxis.com (Electric Eye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anyone selling a NeXT box??? Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:58:51 -0400 Organization: Macintosh: The features of Windows 95..since 1984! Message-ID: <comiskey-ya02408000R2001972358510001@news.netaxis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have always been curious about the NeXT cubes. I never got to use one, though. (Could never find one...). I was wondering if anyone had a WORKING NeXT system for sale - CHEAP. I know of someone who got one for only $300 a few weeks ago. If I can't find one for a very affordable price, I can just get a cheap x86 box built. I have the OS and development tools package at my disposal. Any suggestions as to where to get one or if you are willing to sell yours, let me know. thanks. -EE -- "You think you've private lives, Think nothing of the kind. There is no true escape, I'm watching all the time." -Judas Priest "Electric Eye" +++Keep the Faith and Defend It!+++
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: WTB: DSP manuals for next! Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3zCHF.Fyr@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:00:51 GMT References: <overa-ya023180001301971715580001@news.csu.net> Organization: University of Waterloo [redirected to comp.sys.next.hardware] In article <overa-ya023180001301971715580001@news.csu.net>, overa <overa@fire.sjsu.edu> wrote: >Hi, > >Need DSP manuals for the next so if you have and would like to sell please >let me know. > The manual for the chip itself is just the Motorola DSP56000/DSP56001 User's Manual. I'm not sure if you can get it online at their web site, but there's a good chance (you can get, for example, most of the PowerPC books that way). If not, you'll have to find your local Motorola distributer. The books are very cheap; this one cost me something like $8 Canadian in 1993. As for the NeXT-specific stuff, memory maps and lots of examples (sometimes cryptic, like the DMA ones) are included with the MusicKit. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Mono/Greyscale? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E3zCM0.I9G@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 04:03:36 GMT References: <5benfm$m9g@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5benfm$m9g@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu>, Andrew Matthew Theurer <atheurer@cs.utexas.edu> wrote: > >I have a question about the mono cubes and slabs. Are these really >monochrome (black and white, no grey) or true greyscale. They're 2-bit greyscale: black, dark grey, light grey, and white. >I have >never actually used a cube or slab, so I'm just wondering. I'm >considering buying a mono cube, if it's actually greyscale. > Go for it. If you get a monitor that's in good shape they're *really* nice to sit in front of. Very sharp, chrisp display. >Also, if they are greyscale, is the only difference between >the mono's and color's just the monitor? No--way different. Cubes need the NeXTdimension board to do colour, and colour slabs have entirely different video output hardware than mono slabs (and different other things, like the memory subsystem). >Also, what are the >specs on the video signal (connector: 13w3? sync: on green?) > The colour machines use 13w3, and I seem to recall it's sync on green. The mono ones use a funky special connector. Can't remember how many pins it has--around 19 or so. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: "Brent B. Powers Swaps Programmer x2293" <powers@ml.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 21 Jan 1997 09:39:47 -0500 Organization: Merrill Lynch Sender: powers@swapsdvlp02 Message-ID: <u02g1zvjdn0.fsf@ml.com> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> atheurer@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Matthew Theurer) writes: > In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: > >Dave McGill <dave@pcdiscounters.com> writes: > > >>SPECIALS: > >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 > > >Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but > >for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it > >works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail > >order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at > >least posting to the wrong newsgroup. > > Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! > It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). > Actually, the OEM matrox's tend to be running the RAMDAC at a lower speed... the Retail is at 220Mhz, I believe the OEM cards run at 170. This is of no significance unless you have a big screen that you run with lots of colors (i.e. Figure greater than 1152x1024 at 16b color) -- Brent B. Powers Merrill Lynch powers@ml.com
From: wolfgang@neptun.nt.tuwien.ac.at (Wolfgang Pusch) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 PCI, 3COM 3C900 10/100 PCI Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:53:33 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5c2vqt$23d@news.tuwien.ac.at> Do the ethernet cards "Intel Etherexpress Pro 10/100 PCI", and "3COM 3C900 10/100 PCI" work reliable together with NeXTstep 3.3, 4.1, respectively? Anybody using one of them? - Wolfgang
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium v.s. Dimension? Date: 15 Jan 1997 02:27:15 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5bhfa3$jue@news.us.net> References: <5bfrv3$5fd@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) wrote: > I wonder the performance between Matrox Millenium on Intel and >NeXT Cube with Dimension? I know Millenium is good for 2D acceration, >so it should be good for Display PostScript, but how about comparing >with Dimension? On Intel machines, NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP does not utilize any hardware acceleration operations on today's video boards. Instead, it completely relies on the CPU to do all the drawing and bandwidth from system memory to display memory (usually across the I/O bus, such as VESA or PCI) determines the other part of the video speed question. On a NeXTdimension system, the i860 processor on the dimension board is tapped to do some operations, however the Postscript window server still runs on the 68040 CPU. That means that for some operations, especially complex Postscript drawing, an Intel Pentium or better will easily outperform the NeXTdimension due to pure CPU horsepower difference. Also, for pure video bandwidth, PCI outperforms the NeXTbus, again weighing in favor of the PC's. 3DKit graphics and some NXImage operations may be faster on the NeXTdimension however. That is why the NXBench results are better on most PC's with local bus video. This is especially noticable if you run X, Executor, or SoftPC on the NeXTdimension. Finally, while there is only one way to screw up the performance of a NeXTdimension (namely, configure a mono monitor as the main monitor), there are a multitude of ways to configure fast components to run slowly on the Intel side. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: Dale Pippert <dpippert@taratec.com> Organization: Taratec Development Corporation MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color printer work with mono black station? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32e53b57.0@news.dca.net> Date: 21 Jan 97 21:55:35 GMT If I buy a color bubble jet printer, and use eXTRPRINT, can I print color from my MONO Next black computer? Or will everything necessarily be rendered in black and white on the color printer, even if the image has color in it? Much thanks for your help! dpippert@taratec.com
From: planet@xmission.xmission.com (planetary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 21 Jan 1997 17:13:13 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Message-ID: <5c3m2p$83s@xmission.xmission.com> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> <5c0mdi$hdu@jeckle.cs.utexas.edu> Andrew Matthew Theurer <atheurer@cs.utexas.edu> wrote: : In article <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net>, Font <font@MCS.COM> wrote: : >>SPECIALS: : >>Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 : Dell Factory Outlet in Austin,TX has these (4MB) for $149! : It is, however, an OEM (no winblows drivers, etc, who cares). Some/all of the OEM Millenia (Milleniums?) have 175 MHz instead of 220 MHz RAMDACS. Caveat emptor. ............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Contains freshness saver packet. DO NOT EAT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: HELP: NS Install on New HD? Message-ID: <E41F0u.M0o@midway.uchicago.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <32DB4AF8.1C6A@us.oracle.com> <5bgb3g$jqu@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 06:50:54 GMT In article <5bgb3g$jqu@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, Gary Finley <gfin@psych.ualberta.ca> wrote: >On 01/13/97, Jason Lincoln wrote: >>I have a NeXTstation mono with a 100MB internal hard drive that I >>would like to replace with a 1GB Seagate ST31230N... > >If you want to do a fresh install, just connect your new disk at >SCSI ID 0 and boot from the install floppy. That'll build you a new >system from CD onto your new disk. Once the system is built, you may >want to copy any customizations from your old 100 MB disk before >removing it. Finally, jumper the new disk to SCSI ID 1, so that you >have the option of connecting an external boot disk at ID 0 if >necessary in future. > This is right. My only suggestion is that you do not need to change the HD SCSI ID. Normally people set the HD to SCSI ID=1. With the help of the boot disk, just follow the instruction and you will be fine.
From: Jim Kieley <jim@cgs.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Flyback for Fimi Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:12:26 +0000 Organization: The Claremont Colleges Message-ID: <32E247EA.4436@cgs.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone know if flayback transformers for NeXT Fimi 17" color monitors are available. Failing that, is it possible to use a NEC XE21 or XV 17+ with a NeXTstation color. I have the Pigtail adapter for the workstation end, but the NEC's have a VGA connector not BNC. Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu
From: cla@concentric.net (NORM) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Need Help! harddrive install Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 02:07:07 GMT Organization: Concentric Internet Services Message-ID: <5c3sgi$ael@chronicle.concentric.net> Summary: Need Help! harddrive install Keyword: Need Help! harddrive install I'm installing a harddrive it will be the slave drive. The way i understand it after installing it, it will be named D:\ drive and my cd rom will then be my E: drive so i need to know what to do when i run a game ect... that calls for my cd rom that use to be my D: drive? Do i have to change some settings some where? If you can help me could you E-mail me it would be best :) cla@concentric.net Norm
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) Subject: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? Message-ID: <E4DIK9.My@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Sender: usenet@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU Organization: University of Notre Dame, Department of Psychology Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:38:32 GMT Hi all- I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect way to go about this. I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? Steve --- Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 -- Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4E457.ItG@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:24:43 GMT References: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net>, Jeff Hepp <nexthepp@usa.net> wrote: >I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it >has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package >from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz >cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's >unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I haven't seen NeXT's Jaz.pkg, but I can use both on my cube. I manually added a disktab entry for the Jaz drive and disk(8) correctly identifies it. The Zip drive is no problem either. I'll investigate this NeXT-supplied package, though. Sounds fishy. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Floppy frive won't read anything Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:22:12 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <32E5A404.4C97@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 i have an 040 cube that i just bought a FDD for. when i insert a disk beit dos or even annother next disk it tells me that the disk has errors and to initialize it. then it tells me that it couldn't initialize because of errors. then it spits it out. i tried several different floppies and several different drives. Help. -Greg
From: 煙煙燏6穓im@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes Date: 21 Jan 1997 21:44:51 GMT Organization: The Claremont Colleges Message-ID: <5c3dcj$9nj$1@cinenews.claremont.edu> References: <19970118225100.RAA25004@ladder01.news.aol.com> > From: rsjoh@aol.com (Rsjoh) > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > Subject: HELP! 17" color MegaPixel Fades to black in 10-20 minutes > Date: 18 Jan 1997 22:51:53 GMT > I have a 17" color MegaPixel display that works just fine (no fading that I > can tell) for about 10 to 20 minutes and then it seems to "zoom in" to a > spot on the screen while simultaneously fading to black. I can't use it > then for about 6 HOURS later and then the whole cycle begins again. > Obviously it sounds like a part getting hot, but 6 hours to cool down > sounds extreme. I know Bell Atlantic has a monopoly on Black hardware > repair (any rumours on Apple changing this?) but does anyone know of the > (rough) costs of having them repair it? I REALLY love the display and > refuse to run a PC monitor on my NeXT Station. If I can't repair the > monitor then I'd rather buy another MegaPixel. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > Scott Johnson If it's a FIMI monitor there is something in NeXTAnswers (www.next.com) that references a similar problem. The source was a bad capacitor. You are better off than I, as I have a dead monitor (still in search of a flyback transformer if anyone out there has one). Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu
From: BillLee@cleaf.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Monitor repair Date: 21 Jan 1997 14:42:23 GMT Message-ID: <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net> I have a ColorStation with (now) two monitors that either don't work at all or are "flakey". One (a 17" FIMI) has lost the horizontal sweep, and the second (a 21" Hitachi) has a blue gun that comes and goes. What is the standard mechanism for getting a NeXT monitor repaired? I called the local computer service shop and they couldn't/wouldn't help. Does anyone know of a shop that will look at/fix one of these in the east Texas area? (Dallas or Houston would be fine.) Thanks in advance. Bill Lee BillLee@cleaf.com
From: mycroft@nntp.best.com (Alex Currier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Jaz OK, Zip Lost Ground Date: 22 Jan 1997 09:11:42 GMT Message-ID: <5c4lke$i75@nntp1.best.com> References: <32E14F6C.78E8@usa.net> Jeff Hepp (nexthepp@usa.net) wrote: : I've had a Zip drive on my NeXTStation Color for some time now and it : has worked wonderfully. Recently got a Jaz, installed the Jaz.package : from NeXT and now whenever I try to init a Zip, Console thinks its a Jaz : cart. It craps out before it's formatted and from then on says it's : unreadable. Any thoughts/experiences with this? I installed the Jaz formatting package and formatted a jaz drive successfully, but thereafter the machine thought everything was a jaz so I removed it. I suggest you replace the parts changed by the jaz package with the originals once your jaz disk is formatted, you don't need that stuff to actually read the jaz disk. --- alex currier | Reactiveware - Coolest t-shirt at Macworld Expo! reactive@well.com | www.reactiveware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Why is 83Hz refresh the limit for my ELSA WINNER? Message-ID: <E4B5Lr.Hwv@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:03:27 GMT Under Windows NT I can run my screen at 1152*864 @90Hz or even 100Hz (I forget if 100Hz was only for 1024*768). Under NEXTSTEP however, if I hack around to tell the ELSE driver to do 90Hz, the monitor (IIYama Visionmaster Pro-17) starts to complain about too high frequencies. It looks like the driver assumes at 90Hz that also the horizontal refresh rate has to go up and thus gets over the bandwidth the IIYama monitor can handle. Does anybody know the details? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: bff@csn.net (Brendan Forsyth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seagate 2Gb in Black HW Problem Date: 15 Jan 1997 13:14:46 GMT Organization: SuperNet Inc. +1.303.296.8202 Denver Colorado Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bil86$ahl@news-2.csn.net> References: <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> <5bi299$jog$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> marcel@sysyem.de wrote: : In article <5b11g7$4@darla.visi.com> dwy@ace.net (David Young) writes: : > Brendan Forsyth (bff@icarus) wrote: : > : I replace the original Seagate 400mb hard drive in my Color Turbo : > : and replaced it with a Seagate Hawk 2XL. All is going fine except : > : that the system only reports half of the drive available. It : > : reports the correct size during boot, and when I did the install : > : it reported the proper size of the drive but during operation it : reports : > : only one Gig. : > : > Irritating, isn't it? : > : > During installation, partition your drive into two 1G partitions. : > Mount one at /Local, then symlink /LocalApps and all that on to it. : Hmm, this is the Seagate Hawk on my cube: : Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on : /dev/sd0a 1890644 1330001 371578 78% / : /dev/sd0b 138957 9 125052 00% /clients : /private/vm/swapfile 1890644 1330001 371578 78% : /private/vm/swapfile.front : So, although my disk is also partitioned, it certainly has more than one : gig in the primary partition. I have to admit that I don't know why the : first poster is having problems. : Marcel I don't know why the system didn't let me in on the secret either. However Peter Nitezki's response was right on the money. The device is /dev/sd0b and there is the rest of my disk space. Thanks to him and his thoroughly helpful response. Hopefully, anyone else who encounters this unpredictable behavior will find this dialogue useful. Brendan
From: dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: system hangs while booting Date: 15 Jan 1997 14:30:37 GMT Organization: The National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences Message-ID: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Hi, I have a NEXTSTEP for Intel system that often freezes while booting or logging in. This seems to happen, on average, about once out of every 3 or 4 times I power on. Also, the failures seem to be related to powering off and on, rather than simply restarting without powering off. I don't know what is causing this. Does anyone have any suggestions? SETUP: I bought the system from a company that specializes in configuring NEXTSTEP for Intel systems. The basic system is a bare DEC Celebris XL 6200. The Pentium Pro 200 MHz CPU, the motherboard, the power supply, and the case came from DEC. Also, DEC provides an onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI adapter. All of the drives are SCSI. The hard drive is a 4-gb Seagate Barracuda and the CD-ROM drive is a Plextor 6Plex. There is also a Conner DAT drive on the SCSI chain. The video card is an ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X with 4-mb of VRAM, the sound card is a SoundBlaster-16, and the network card is a Cogent EM110. I bought some extra memory from the system vendor and some more extra memory from another third party. I am running OPENSTEP 4.0. SYMPTOMS: The system freezes completely. This has occurred at various points along the boot and/or login sequence. Once I am logged into OPENSTEP, the system usually (but not always) runs for days (or even weeks). Sometimes the system freezes within seconds after I power on (i.e. when doing the first memory count). Other times it freezes after starting to load OPENSTEP, and yet other times it hangs while the login panel is displayed (either before or after I type in my account name and password). A few times it has hung shortly after logging in. WHAT I'VE TRIED: I removed the sound card and the network card early on and I have left them out. I tried various memory combinations, always filling the 4 slots required for interleaving with identical SIMMs. I tried only DEC memory, only memory from the NEXTSTEP integrator, and only memory I bought from TechWorks (aka First Tech). The system failed in all three cases. I swapped out the video card with another identical card. DEC has come out a dozen times and has swapped out the CPU, the daughter card, and the motherboard. I sent the system back to the NEXTSTEP integator, but he said he was unable to replicate my problem. DEC took the system to their shop and WAS able to replicate the problem. DEC is now going to replace the power supply, but the technician did not expect that to help. COMMENTS: I'm not an expert on hardware or software, but the fact that the system sometimes fails almost immediately after powering on suggests to me that the problem does not involve NEXTSTEP. In fact, it often fails before even getting to the SCSI adapter and/or devices. To me, the most likely suspects are the CPU, the daughter card, the motherboard, the RAM, the video card, or the power supply. We have swapped out all but the last item. Actually, we have 5 of these systems, all configured the same, and several others are having the same problem. We are using 2 of them, as they "appear" to work fine after the user successfully logins in. But I'm very worried that if we powered these systems off and on many times, then they would fail as well. I'm afraid to depend on a system that hangs so often for unknown reasons. It's quite plausible to me that there are other problems that are present, but not so apparent. Does anyone else have this same configuration? If so, I'd be interested in whether you have noticed this problem. Can anyone offer any advice? Thanks, Gregg =========================== Gregg Dinse dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov 919-541-4931
From: jbf_see_signature@frazer.com (James B. Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Monitor repair Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:23:57 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Message-ID: <jbf_see_signature-ya023580002201970923570001@news.tiac.net> References: <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5c2kkf$a20@news0-alterdial.uu.net>, BillLee@cleaf.com wrote: > What is the standard mechanism for getting a NeXT monitor repaired? I called > the local computer service shop and they couldn't/wouldn't help. I quote an old post, without quote marks ;-). ******* In article <4bjtm7$8ev@news.onramp.net>, <scotshep@onramp.net> wrote: > >It been brought to my attention that maybe people would like to know >where they could get a 'refurbished' monitor if they wanted one. I exchange >my monitors with Bell Atlantic via UPS. They send a working unit out and I use >the same packing to return the defective unit. Works for us. Their number is: >1-800-345-7950, ask for NeXT repair deparment. Bell Atlantic is now called Decision One; the NeXT service center can be reached at 800/325-6398, though the above number may work as well. Once I found the above number (most Bell Atlantic folk that I spoke with locally didn't know anything about NeXT) I was very pleased with my dealings with them. I had an old N4000 that was sorely in need of a pair of glasses, and after calling them I had a refurbished N4000 in a couple of days. I was told they are replacing the original CRT with an updated version which has an expected life of 50,000 hrs rather than the 20,000 of the original, I didn't hear or ask about any other updates being done to the monitor. The replacement monitor is clean and sharp, a real treat for the eyes! Bottom line is that the exchange price was $389 plus tax and return shipping. Larry Fahnoe AT&T Wireless Services System & Network Manager 7900 S. Xerxes Ave, Suite 301 larry.fahnoe@attws.com 612/832-7616 Minneapolis, MN 55431 ******** As for the intermittent Hitachi gun, I've had the same problem on occasion. Appears to be a cable or connector issue, since jiggling the cable makes it go away. I don't know of any way to isolate it, short of replacing the monitor and cable. But, if jiggling it cures it, replacement isn't going to prove anything. Barney Barney (delete that _see_signature to email me)
From: Dan Tortorici <dtort@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Jaz format problem starts under NS Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:27:15 -0700 Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <32E623C3.6A1F@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have an originally DOS formatted cartridge that worked fine in W95. I tried to format it under NS and came up with the following (from both the shell and console). I would conclude bad media but I know this cart was originally OK. I have been able to use the Jaz with other disks previously. I seem to recall a similar post a few months back. If I now try to format it with Jaz format under W95 it proceeds normally but does not format. Anything else to try? Been there before? thanks, Dan ------------------------- spectrum:1# sdform /dev/rsd1a device = /dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 1021 MBytes ***FORMATTING THIS DISK CAUSES ALL DISK DATA TO BE LOST*** This will take approximately 34 minutes. Do you wish to proceed? (Y/anything) Y Disk Format in progress... ....Retrying with cdb->fc_dlf = FMTD_INDEX ....rtn = 0(d) sr_io_status = 2H sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid sense key = 03H sense code = 31H Sense Data: 000: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 11 00 00 00 00 31 83 00 00 010: 00 00 2E 4E 01 2E 35 00 00 SCSI status = 02H Format command failed sr_io_status = 2 ; check status, sr_esense valid SCSI status = 02H ***FORMAT UNIT COMMAND FAILED*** spectrum:2# From the Console: ------------------ Software Version 3.3 (Lightning9I) DISK UNFORMATTED Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 1 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 2 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 3 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 4 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 5 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 6 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 7 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 8 Target 4: MEDIA ERROR; block 0H retry 9 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x3 additional sense code:0x31 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label) sd1 (4,0): ERROR op:0x4 sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (4,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x24 SCSI Block in error = 0 (no valid label)
From: lucifer Mixmaster Remailer <lucifer@dhp.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:23:39 -0500 Message-ID: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> > Dear NeXT Customer: > > As you know, Apple is in the process of acquiring NeXT Software, Inc. > [...] > > Cross Platform Support. Apple will maintain NeXT's commitment to > cross-platform and cross-processor support, and will continue to develop, > sell, and support products currently available, including those for Windows > NT, Solaris, HP-UX, and NEXTSTEP. In addition, we plan to add support with > Rhapsody on PowerPC processors. Cross platform support for WebObjects and > OpenStep aligns perfectly with Apple's overall strategy of moving core > software technologies such as QuickTime cross platform. > [...] > > Thank you and best regards, > > Dr. Gil Amelio > Chief Executive Officer > Apple Computer, Inc. > > > So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware?
From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 2nd hard drive in NeXt Station Date: 22 Jan 1997 10:06:33 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Message-ID: <5c5adp$9g2@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: <32E22713.5777@sprintmail.com> In article <32E22713.5777@sprintmail.com>, Raymond L. Ehrlich <RayEhrlich@sprintmail.com> wrote: >... >Can anyone in the group give me advise on how to temporarily install the >faulty hard drive into the NeXT Station with the working 105 Mbyte drive >installed? The installation would be temporary. I just want to see if I >can repair the 405 mbyte drive with NeXt Step 2.2.installed. Both drives >are original drives that came with NeXT Stations. >... The only real trick here is finding the right jumper to change the SCSI ID number of the corrupted drive to something higher. It may be obvious just from looking at it, or you may need help in looking it up. I don't know what model 405 MB drives NeXT used. Assuming you can change the SCSI ID, all you need are a SCSI cable and power supply. Depending on what you have available, you could power the drive from its original NeXTStation power supply, or from a spare PC power supply. The SCSI cable could be a piece of ribbon cable with an extra connector, or you can kludge up something to adapt from the back panel SCSI-2 connector to the drive's ribbon connector. If the cable adds more than a few inches, you'll also need to be able to plug a terminator onto the far end.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Beginner questions Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E41986.47p@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 04:45:42 GMT References: <x6ybdwx5wn.fsf@queequeg.uchicago.edu> <32DC8CF9.4B50@friday.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32DC8CF9.4B50@friday.com>, Bill Bumgarner <bbum@friday.com> wrote: >James Felix Black wrote: >> 1. How necessary is the OD? The system has a defective drive. Can it >> be easily replaced? How much should I expect to pay for one? > >OD-- not necessary, get a Jaz drive... they are faster, more reliable, >and plug-and-play with anything (but a windoze box). > Just a comment. It's been said before but I'll say it here again just to be safe: Jaz drives need a disktab entry, which you can get from my web page or NeXTanswers. Zip drives *DO NOT*. >> 2. Does a cube support the floppy drive? If so, how much should I >> expect to pay for one? > >Yes-- as long as it is an '040 and not one of the old '030. Don't know >how much you'd have to pay... a cube can do 2.8 MB floppies-- which is >beyond the PC standard of 1.4. Sam Goldberger could tell you-- hunt >down Spherical Solutions (right?). > Right. I've seen the Sony ones for $100 or so. >Yes; And if you don't mind running single-headed, a ND+cube with lots >of memory on both (say 64 MB on both) is STILL the fastest 32 bit >graphics machine around [discounting custom hardware like >SillyGraphics and such]... truly awesome. > You figure? I haven't used modern PC-based 32-bit solutions, but I find this impressive. Not that I mind--I enjoyed many years of seeing peoples' faces when dragging windows around on my ND--but still? Nifty! >As well, simply add a secondary caching DNS server to the Linux box >and-- if you want to get really fancy-- a proxy web server and mail >transport agent, and you have yourself one bitchin' LAN... > Yeah--guess I should get a crappy 386 to stick in the closet. And some IP addresses... >Upgrade to [at least] 3.3-- it is better and is what MOST of the >community that isn't using 4.1 is currently using. > There's some argument as to whether 3.2 or 3.3 is faster if you have a Dimension board. I have 3.2 on mine and am happy (with 32/36MB) and I've never used 3.3 on one. I have FoundationUserPatch installed so I can run 3.3-ish apps, but I have no need to develop Foundationised stuff. >My cube has been moved six times, been struck by lightning twice, has >been kicked, jumped on, fallen down a [short] flight of stairs, and >still works perfectly. > Only problem is that if the paint gets scratched off the case you're left with this really ugly yellow-ish colour. :( >The B&W monitors tend to fade with time. The 17" color monitors suck >(well, most of 'em, but that's a long story). The 21" monitors are >excellent. > Monochrome monitors with no mic on the front (model N4000) are the most likely to fade. Add a microphone and oyu get N4000A--they're not bad--I've used one from the summer of 1992, pretty much 24/7 since then that's still nice. The ADB monitors (likely not what you'll get with your cube)--the N4000B--apparently used a higher- quality cathode and solved the fading problem. The 21" moitors (Hitachi, aren't they?) are possibly the nicest non-Trinitron 21" I've ever seen. Even after 5 years mine is really nice. >There is a very good reason why NeXT won many awards for the design of >the hardware... No company has *ever* built a machine as well as NeXT >built the cube and the subsequent stations. [At least, none that I'm >aware of-- if you are, please point me to 'em... I LOVE well built >'wares, be it hard or soft.] > I'd agree with this. My cube is one of the most useful things (and just all around "nice") things I've ever bought. BTW, the Oberheim Xpander is built almost as well as NeXT black hardware. It's not a computer, but you asked. :) -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: Beginner questions Message-ID: <1997Jan15.091843.664@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: felix@queequeg.uchicago.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <x6ybdwx5wn.fsf@queequeg.uchicago.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:18:43 GMT In <x6ybdwx5wn.fsf@queequeg.uchicago.edu> James Felix Black wrote: > > 1. How necessary is the OD? The system has a defective drive. Can it > be easily replaced? How much should I expect to pay for one? Don't bother about the OD. Try to clean it (there are docs on some ftp-servers) and if it still doesnt work, get some other backup device. > > 2. Does a cube support the floppy drive? If so, how much should I > expect to pay for one? SCSI-Floppys work well. > > 4. I have a USR 33.6 sportster sitting around ... but the NeXT serial > situation makes me nervous: can an '040 cube drive a serial port fast > enough, or should I invest in a cheapo PC and route PPP to ethernet > (suboptimal)? You can drive the port with 33.8 which is OK when downloading compressed files, otherwise you have some slow down. Actually the port can be driven with 56k, but then you might get overrun errors. > > 5. How much RAM should I outfit this sucker with, at a minimum? I > think that it's running 3.1 (?), and I am interested in developing. min 16MB. > > 6. How reliable are the cubes, generally speaking? Very reliable, much better than average PC hardware. > > 7. How is the NeXT printer, generally speaking? Print quality, > reliability, noise, etc. I use it seldom, the qualitity (400 dpi) is good for some years already. > > 8. I'm an Emacs/mh user, and while I can -- and some would argue, > should -- adjust, I would like at least some of my working enviroment > available. How is the range of Unix standard packages that support > NeXT? I'm thinking about things like pgp, lynx, python, perl. I am > happy to get by without X, but the thought of giving up emacs gives me > the cold sweats. The standard unix utilities work well on NeXT. The problem is Emacs: There exists a native port to NeXTSTEP but this is (I beleive) emacs 19.28. I run the latest emacs (compiles without problems) on co-Xist X-Emulator on Nextstep. This is not the fastest solution, but as I also regard emacs as the most necessary tool on every machine - what alternative do I have ..... > > 9. How wierd (meaning "not so much like Unix as you'd expect") is the > working environment? It is 99% BSD unix. A few exceptions exist. Software which is written for SYS-V need some tweaking. But almost everything on the net is running on NeXT.
From: far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> Say, nice hardware. A while back I had a Micron P133 that exhibited most of the symptoms you describe. I was convinced that the problem was on the motherboard (based on the symptoms), yet replacing that with one sent to me by Micron had no effect. I pretty much went through all of the steps your suppliers have run through and still the problem persisted. The SCSI drive in this machine was a Fujitsu 7200rpm. This thing is a heater. A few weeks before I had added a 640MO drive to this computer, thereby, reducing the already poor ventilation the main drive was getting. This must have precipitated some type of failure in the drive's control electronics. The failure in the drive's control electronics interacted with the system's Adaptec 2940UW and would cause the symptoms you describe. I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I found the problem when I temporarily installed an IDE drive in the system and all was well. I called Fujitsu and they sent me a new drive the next day (the drive was 8mo old). The system has worked beautifully since, although it now has an IDE drive. I now run that Fujitsu 4.3gig 7200rpm SCSI drive in an ATX case where it gets plenty of air. Btw, its trivial to test the output of standard PC switching power supplies with an ordinary Oscilloscope so I really doubt that is you problem. In article <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov (Gregg E. Dinse) writes: >Hi, > >I have a NEXTSTEP for Intel system that often freezes while >booting or logging in. This seems to happen, on average, >about once out of every 3 or 4 times I power on. Also, the >failures seem to be related to powering off and on, rather >than simply restarting without powering off. I don't know >what is causing this. Does anyone have any suggestions? > >SETUP: >I bought the system from a company that specializes in >configuring NEXTSTEP for Intel systems. The basic system >is a bare DEC Celebris XL 6200. The Pentium Pro 200 MHz >CPU, the motherboard, the power supply, and the case came >from DEC. Also, DEC provides an onboard NCR 53C810 SCSI >adapter. All of the drives are SCSI. The hard drive is a >4-gb Seagate Barracuda and the CD-ROM drive is a Plextor >6Plex. There is also a Conner DAT drive on the SCSI chain. >The video card is an ELSA Winner 2000 Pro/X with 4-mb of >VRAM, the sound card is a SoundBlaster-16, and the network >card is a Cogent EM110. I bought some extra memory from >the system vendor and some more extra memory from another >third party. I am running OPENSTEP 4.0. > >SYMPTOMS: >The system freezes completely. This has occurred at >various points along the boot and/or login sequence. Once >I am logged into OPENSTEP, the system usually (but not >always) runs for days (or even weeks). Sometimes the >system freezes within seconds after I power on (i.e. when >doing the first memory count). Other times it freezes >after starting to load OPENSTEP, and yet other times it >hangs while the login panel is displayed (either before or >after I type in my account name and password). A few times >it has hung shortly after logging in. > >WHAT I'VE TRIED: >I removed the sound card and the network card early on and >I have left them out. I tried various memory combinations, >always filling the 4 slots required for interleaving with >identical SIMMs. I tried only DEC memory, only memory from >the NEXTSTEP integrator, and only memory I bought from >TechWorks (aka First Tech). The system failed in all three >cases. I swapped out the video card with another identical >card. DEC has come out a dozen times and has swapped out >the CPU, the daughter card, and the motherboard. I sent >the system back to the NEXTSTEP integator, but he said he >was unable to replicate my problem. DEC took the system to >their shop and WAS able to replicate the problem. DEC is >now going to replace the power supply, but the technician >did not expect that to help. > >COMMENTS: >I'm not an expert on hardware or software, but the fact >that the system sometimes fails almost immediately after >powering on suggests to me that the problem does not >involve NEXTSTEP. In fact, it often fails before even >getting to the SCSI adapter and/or devices. To me, the >most likely suspects are the CPU, the daughter card, the >motherboard, the RAM, the video card, or the power supply. >We have swapped out all but the last item. > >Actually, we have 5 of these systems, all configured the >same, and several others are having the same problem. We >are using 2 of them, as they "appear" to work fine after >the user successfully logins in. But I'm very worried that >if we powered these systems off and on many times, then >they would fail as well. I'm afraid to depend on a system >that hangs so often for unknown reasons. It's quite >plausible to me that there are other problems that are >present, but not so apparent. > >Does anyone else have this same configuration? If so, I'd >be interested in whether you have noticed this problem. >Can anyone offer any advice? Thanks, > >Gregg > >=========================== >Gregg Dinse >dinse@catatac.niehs.nih.gov >919-541-4931 -- Felipe A. Rodriguez # Francesco Sforza became Duke of Milan from Agoura Hills, CA # being a private citizen because he was # armed; his successors, since they avoided far@ix.netcom.com # the inconveniences of arms, became private (NeXTmail preferred) # citizens after having been dukes. (MIMEmail welcome) # --Nicolo Machiavelli
From: rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Distribution: world Message-ID: <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article <E3uy20.E9u@nidat.sub.org>, > > Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium battery on > > > the main board for an hour or two. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. -- Rex A. Dieter rdieter@math.unl.edu (NeXT/MIME OK) Computer System Manager http://www.math.unl.edu/~rdieter/ Mathematics and Statistics University of Nebraska-Lincoln
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Connecting Next monitor to PC Date: 22 Jan 1997 16:58:29 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c5gvl$1b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> I have a NeXT monitor I'd like to use with a PC. I've heard that there is some kind of adapter for this. I would appreciate any pointers to where I might find this adapter. Thanks. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: 22 Jan 97 13:13:27 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0BC2FB-FBCCB@207.147.60.204> References: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jan 22, 1997 8:23 AM, lucifer Mixmaster Remailer <mailto:lucifer@dhp.com> wrote: > So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware? If Apple is smart (questionable but the purchase of NeXT might give us some hope), then it will support the hardware and release an Apple black box contemporaneous with the release of the new OS. The marketing possibilities are enormous. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
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From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: NeWBIE Questions Date: 22 Jan 97 13:54:47 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0BCCAD-120558@207.147.60.204> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://netnews.worldnet.att.net/comp.sys.next.software I just received my NeXT Cube with Dimension board yesterday and began playing with it. I love this machine and this software. However, as usual, I have a few questions adn would appreciate any information: 1. I'm running NEXTSTEP 3.3 user and 3.2 developer but I don't have the install disks. Is there any way to back up this machine so that it can be reinstalled in the case of a crash? 2. Is there any way to get software for NEXTSTEP from the internet to connect this thing to an Appletalk Ethernet network which I have here with an Apple Server. 3. I have an ADB system, but this thing came with the worst mouse I have ever used. It's a NeXT mouse made in 1992 and is hemispherical with a wedge shape in the front end and two buttons on it. Is there such a thing as a NeXT ADB mouse designed like the original square mouse? Thanks for the help, Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "T.E. Biesinger" <teb@eng.cam.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: IBM ThinkPad 560 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 20:59:35 +0000 Organization: Cambridge University Engineering Department Message-ID: <32DD4537.22B1@eng.cam.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi! Does anybody else use an IBM ThinkPad 560 running OPENSTEP 4.0 out there? I would like to make your contact anyway to exchange experience. Here are some of my problems: 1. I am having trouble with the power mode switching using eg Fn 11 for hybernation mode. All others Fn keys work as root only! 2. The pg up and pg down keys do not work. 3. The CD player using the ESS driver set to 'CD' as input does nothing. 4. The power management does not seem to exploit the power saving functions of the hard disk switching it off when not needed. The cannot be set in the preferences either. Thanks a lot! -- --- Dr. Thomas E Biesinger, Engineering Department, University of Cambridge, Trumpington Street, Cambridge CB2 1PZ, UK, em: biesingert@asme.org, vc: +44 1223 3 32869, fx: +44 1223 3 32662. PGP-2.6.i key available!
From: Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Floppy frive won't read anything Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:46:35 -0500 Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <32E6365B.23D1@gl.umbc.edu> References: <32E5A404.4C97@gl.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-User: gpacho1 Gregory Pacholczyk wrote: > > i have an 040 cube that i just bought a FDD for. when i insert a disk > beit dos or even annother next disk it tells me that the disk has errors > and to initialize it. then it tells me that it couldn't initialize > because of errors. then it spits it out. i tried several different > floppies and several different drives. Help. > -Greg now it only reads NeXT disks but not dos disks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: About Dimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4F1M8.9L1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:27:43 GMT References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: > Recently I am interested in the Dimension board, and I have some >questions about it. > Dimension has a NTSC input,right? Right. >Could the port do realtime >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time >Movie on the fly? :) No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about 4-5fps. >And does it has a NTSC output port? Yes. >And is there >any other good features on Dimension? It's a beautiful 32-bit display, with acceleration of some parts of the Display PostScript rendering process. I really like mine. > Last question, where can I find useful information about all features >of Dimension? If you can track down the NeXT Hardware FAQ there's info in there. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) Subject: Re: SB16 and video hw (mach32/Matrox/CTX) questions Message-ID: <E4DDs4.E8@vergil.ping.de> Sender: lars@vergil.ping.de (Lars-Ulrich Kahl) Organization: NeXT Club Schwerte, Germany References: <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:55:15 GMT In article <5b4s1n$a8i$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: > >Under NEXTSTEP 3.3: > > >SB16: I have the non-PnP version, but am getting no sound out of it. > >Do the IRQ and DMA settings need to be manually configured with the > >installation software, or does NEXTSTEP find and set the card up > >itself? > > NEXTSTEP finds the card fine. The DIAGNOSE.EXE utility passes the > card on all tests, with default settings (220/330/IRQ5/DMA1,5). And > still no sound under NEXTSTEP with 3.30 and 3.32 drivers. Blech! For > my next trick, I'll ask if anyone has gotten a SB 16 clone such as the > Shark Multimedia Mako II to work under NEXTSTEP with the SB 16 driver. > (It's PnP, though, so maybe sound is a lost cause.) > > -- > font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes. Try the 3.34 driver. i had the same problem, my solution was to diable pnp-support. ciao lars -- ------------------------------------------------------------ * Lars-Ulrich Kahl NeXT-Mail please! lars@vergil.ping.de * * Lars-Ulrich.Kahl@FernUni-Hagen.de * * B L A C K B O X - NeXT Club Schwerte * * The Interpersonal Computer Club * * next-club-schwerte@vergil.ping.de *
From: cward@adnc.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI bus hung Date: 21 Jan 1997 06:37:58 GMT Organization: adnc.com Message-ID: <cward-2001972237330001@adnline1873.adnc.com> How do I fix this? It just happened. The 040 Cube I am borrowing has two drives. SD1 is the internal Maxtor 380mb. SD0 is an external Fujitsu 640mb. I turned on the Cube and got this... Boot command: 0 Default boot device not found. NeXT> so I tell it to boot from 0, and I also tried booting from 1. I get this... boot sd(0,0,0)0 SCSI bus hung NeXT> What is this and how do I fix it? help! Chris
From: ashrafi@mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:22:54 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Just ordered a Turbo Color Slab. When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? Will the Turbo Color machine take a single 32M 60ns SIMM, or do the SIMMs have to be banked in pairs of 70ns chips like on my present machine? Thanks for any info, Babak
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 97 15:33:59 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 88e0446dab54c17e86540df75cadd690 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: Daisho <daisho@earthlink.net> Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 06:20:46 +0000 > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people have reported success with them). Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP program (as far as I know it) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a NeXTStep|OpenStep web page, email me the URL!]
From: enigma <llay@uape-15.ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Anybody else have problems w/ SCSI on NSFIP 3.2? Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:22:40 -0800 Organization: University of California, San Diego Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.94.970115180218.18388A-100000@uape-15.ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I have a general question, actually. I've been trying to reinstall NSFIP 3.2 back on my computer; however, I wasn't able to because of what appears to be SCSI connection problems. I have DPT SmartCache III with 3 SCSI HD, 1 Syquest 105 drive, 1 SCSI Zip Drive, and a SCSI CD-ROM drive. I do not understand why NS is so sensitive (or should I say over sensitive) to SCSI configurations and errors. For example, on my initial trial, it keeps giving me read block errors when reading from the CDROM (with no medium in the two removable drives). Later, with the two removable drives disconnected, trying to install NSFIP, gave me kernal panic and hence failed; with the two removable drives connected and media inserted in them, the installation then proceeds haphazardly without error. The reason I wonder about NS's over sensitivity to SCSI is that I also have Linux installed--and it gave me absolutely no error nor failure. Is this because of the brand of SCSI card that I'm using? or is my assessment correct about NS's over sensitive to SCSI?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Hacking a NeXT mouse cable Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E42CLA.EtC@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:55:58 GMT References: <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32DCF6BF.6DDE@imma.org>, Dave Johnston <djohnsto@imma.org> wrote: > >Why, after opening my NeXTstation to look at the memory configuration, >does it always boot into the ROM monitor and deliver me an error which >resembles: > >"default boot device not found" > Perhaps you need to set the boot command to "sd" using the p command. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:01:23 GMT Organization: University of Sheffield, UK Message-ID: <5c69oj$jnj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> References: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> In-Reply-To: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> On 01/22/97, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: > When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, > put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this > expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? > I did just this, only from a color to mono station a couple of days ago. No worries. Best wishes, mmalc. --
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: adb tablet connection? Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:33:59 GMT Message-ID: <5c6bln$ea5@news1-alterdial.uu.net> my old white manual says only 12" tablets connected to serial B are accepted. but that was before the introduction of turbo-adb hardware. will a smaller tablet connected to the adb keyboard jack, along with the mouse, be read by tablet-supporting software like tiffany2 and virtuoso? thanks for any help, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701211448.JAA02465@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: a5f67f57686df5fe03f0ab138ce593f2 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 09:48:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Cleaning a NeXT printer (This should go in the FAQ!) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: a5f67f57686df5fe03f0ab138ce593f2 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: beckers@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Becki Kain) Original Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:23:35 GMT > I've checked the NeXT-Hardware-Peripheral Faq and can't > find an answer to this one. Can I buy, from somewhere, just the > cleaning pad for a NeXT Printer? I don't need more toner, just > the pad. I'm getting ghost images when I print. Hey I know this one! Call Hewlett Packard (1-800-752-0900). Note: they have NO idea what a NeXT Laser Printer is. However, their cartridge #92295A is one of the suggested Toner Cartridge for NeXT Laser printers. Here's the ordering information for the pad Official Name: "Hewlett Packard Laser Printer Paper Cleaner Bar (felt lined)" Part # : RG1-0966-030CN Cost: $8, and HP pays for shipping. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: pjb@imaginet.fr (Pascal Bourguignon) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! My NeXTprinter grabs several sheets at once! Date: 23 Jan 1997 02:17:06 GMT Organization: ImagiNET Message-ID: <5c6hn2$gnf@belzebul.imaginet.fr> Hi! My NeXTprinter grabs very often several sheets at once, thus jaming paper. What can I do to prevent it? __Pascal Bourguignon__ mailto:pjb@imaginet.fr
From: "Bruce F. Webster" <bwebster@bfwa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:29:13 -0500 Organization: Bruce F. Webster and Associates, Inc. Message-ID: <32E6DB09.48EE@bfwa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi laser printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers repaired. Please reply to the address below or to g8ubew@fnma.com. Thanks! ..bruce.. -------------------------------------- bruce f. webster | bwebster@bfwa.com | Bruce F. Webster and Associates, Inc.| http://www.bfwa.com/~bwebster | --------------------------------------
From: yew@jove.seas.ucla.edu (Wenming Ye) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: urgent help with CDROM Date: 23 Jan 1997 05:22:17 GMT Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder Message-ID: <5c6si9$okc@lace.colorado.edu> Recently, our CDROM for a next computer broke. Does anyone know what kind of cdrom drive would work on the original black next hardware? I tried a toshiba, (for sgi and sun), but it did not seem to work. I know that some old apple drive will work, but if we were to purchase a new one, what kind would you recommand ? Thanks in advance, Wenming Ye
From: Fabian Braun <fbraun@stud.phys.ethz.ch> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC Mouse with black Hardware Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:52:18 +0100 Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Message-ID: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Out There!! Can anybody tell me if it is possible to use a PC mouse with a NextStation by connecting it to one of the serial ports. Probably one would need driver software. Do such drivers exist? Where can I get one? A different solution might be connecting a PC mouse to the keyboard/mouse port of the NextStation (non ADB). Did Next use some kind of (common) standard for the mouse interface? Do third parties offer mice for the Next Hardware? Thanks for helping me out, Fabian
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Possible to use monochrome monitor on color turbo (non-adb) Date: 16 Jan 1997 01:02:12 -0800 Organization: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site Message-ID: <jcr.853405288@idiom.com> References: <5bgg6d$jot@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> bwp@engin.umich.edu (Bruce Wayne Patton) writes: >Is it possible to use a monitor from a turbo monochrome on >a color turbo? My monitor needs replacement and a used one >costs too much. No. -jcr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Varieties of NeXT color monitors? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4Ftw7.FMs@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:38:31 GMT References: <5c02c8$14d@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5c02c8$14d@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi <ashrafi@mit.edu> wrote: >Would someone please explain the differences between NeXT color monitors for >someone who owns an N4000 mono monitor? > >Are there 21" color Megapixel monitors? Yes. Made, I think, by Hitachi. They're actually very good for non- Trinitron monitors. >What is the difference between Fimi and Trinitron? One uses Sony's Trinitron tube (very sharp and nice) while the other uses something else (not so sharp and nice). >Do Fimi and Trinitron monitors have speakers? No. No NeXT colour monitors have speakers. They all use an external wedge called the "sound box". >Are there any gotcha's for color monitors, like the fading problem for N4000 >and N4000A (I know color monitors don't fade, but anything else to watch out >for?) Not really. Just watch out for fuzziness. >What is a soundbox? > It does lal the non-video stuff. The speaker and mic are here, as are the external audio connectors and the keyboard connector. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: using bsd(?,0,0) to boot? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4FtrI.IDo@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:35:42 GMT References: <5bvubt$h82@news.tamu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5bvubt$h82@news.tamu.edu>, Stephen Johnson <stephen@ccc1.tamu.edu> wrote: >So, although I shouldn't have to I enter the boot command as > >bsd(2,0,0)rootdev=sd2 or bsd(2,0,0)rootdev=sd2a > >and it comes back says something to the effect of blk0 boot not found. > This will try to boot from the kernel named rootdev=sd2; not really what you want. You can fix this by saying something like bsd(2,0,0)- rootdev=sd2a I think that's it. Check the "Startup and Shutdown" chapter in the NextAdmin documentation to be sure. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151353.FAA17785@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:52:44 -0500 Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 09c97b53ed816bf30d4d99ac14cf6236 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary my .02: CD-ROM: I have el cheapo CD-ROM that I got awhile back and it has worked fine (never played music through it, I've got a stereo for that about 3 feet from here) Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. (those prices may even be lower now) === BACKUPS: I've got a nightly backup script that I wrote working with my SyQuest EZ135 drive. It is designed to backup all the files which have changed since the last time the backup was run, and it works fairly well (ie no problems since November). The EZFlyer230 will cost you around $230 after the $55 mailin rebate (offer ends Feb 28th) NOTE: goto http://www.syquest.com and checkout the rebate form and the trade in offer (ie they will give you $100 for any old drive towards the purchase of a EZFlyer, the drive doesn't have to work!!!!!!!!) No, you _can't_ get the mailin rebate and the trade-in offer The EZFlyer is truly p&p w/NeXT hardware, no disktab, etc. There's also the SyJet 1.5gig/cart that sells for $500 (external, I think the internal is $400, again, see their web page). Both of these are going to be as fast as your hard drive, or even faster. Just my thoughts. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 23 Jan 1997 07:35:24 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a non-ADB version? Thanks, Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701151355.FAA17924@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Wed, 15 Jan 97 08:55:06 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 7d321434e621bc0e08c212be61608ece - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: nineteen@onramp.net (Richard C. Logan) Original Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:28:43 -0600 > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a > NextStation? yes, it can, no disktab needed. You just plug in and go. Were I to buy a drive today, I'd probably go for the EZFlyer230 (see my other post "re: PD Drives on Black??" that I just sent off for more) which also "just works" with NeXT hardware. let me know if you need more info, I've got an EZ135 right here TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: lkil@mws.unizh.ch (Lorenz Kilchenmann) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Which MIDI-Interface works? Date: 16 Jan 1997 11:00:07 GMT Organization: University of Zurich, Switzerland Message-ID: <5bl1nn$ao4@rzunews.unizh.ch> I'm looking for a MIDI-Interface for my 68040-Cube. I heard, that some Mac-Interfaces will work, if they're modified the right way. I tried this with a Steinberg MicroMidi, but I failed. Does anyone know about a company selling "native" NeXT-MIDI-Interfaces? Please send any information to: lkil@rzuaix.unizh.ch Thank you, Lorenz
From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:35:47 GMT Organization: Princeton University Message-ID: <5blec3$mrg@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> Cc: nineteen@onramp.net In <nineteen-1401972228430001@ppp1-17.lbcktx.onramp.net> Richard C. Logan wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? > In comp.sys.next.hardware you wrote: > Does anyoneone know if the EZ Drive 135 can be used with a NextStation? Plug'n'play. Even easier than a zip (but both are easy) because it has standard size scsi connectors and the included disk is not software write protected. Fast, quiet. Beats zip by large margins in performance, but the EZ drive and disks are bulkier and heavier and less widespread than zip. Tim -- Timothy Van Zandt Email: tvz@princeton.edu Department of Economics WWW: http://www.princeton.edu/~tvz Princeton University Voice: (609) 258-4050 Princeton, NJ 08544-1021 Fax: (609) 258-6419
From: jchan@apk.net (Jerome Chan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TouchScreen on OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:39:20 -0500 Organization: TofuSoft Message-ID: <jchan-ya023580001601971039200001@news.apk.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is it possible to hook up a touch screen to an OpenStep/Mach for Intel machine? --- The Evil Tofu (Only Human)
From: Micheal Delver <silpics@demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting jaz drive Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:02:57 +0000 Message-ID: <32E7361A.6D04@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Can anone advise me on installing an external 1g Jaz drive on Black Hardware running 3.2. Using the supplied scsi2 connection lead I get a parity error message on start up. Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks
From: robin@pswtech.com (Robin Wilson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:50:00 GMT Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <5blm7o$q72@digdug.pswtech.com> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: } Hi } } I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. } } I am using the following equipment: } } Asus P6NP5 (440FX chipset) with a 150Mhz Pentium Pro } 32 MB RAM } Quantum Fireball TM 3.2GB SCSI (1.5GB used for NeXTSTEP) } DPT PM2044W PCI SCSI controller } Matrox Millennium 2Mb WRAM PCI } Pioneer DRU124X SCSI CDROM } SoundBlaster AWE32 } ADI Microscan 5A monitor } } The problem is that almost every time, when I am trying to load NS, } the monitor shows a kind of black screen , when NS is finished loading } and should showing the login window. The monitor shows a black screen } some kind of horizontal "stripes", and if I login to NS (in blind), } there are a lot more "stripes", but still no picture. } } If I use the default video driver it worrks fine, but it is not a very } pretty resolution:-)) I doubt it is the Matrox _driver_. It might be your settings, what resolution, pixel depth and refresh rates have you tried? I'd recommend going with lower refresh rates and see if that helps. Also, try getting the latest Matrox driver from NeXTAnswers. Even the Beta drivers are quite reliable. Are you running the OmniPentiumPro driver? I've had similar problems when trying to get it configured... Send me e-mail if you are still stuck... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- *** These are my opinions... Mine! All Mine! Minemineminemineminemine! *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin D. Wilson robin@pswtech.com PSW Technologies 701 Canyon Bend Dr. 9050 Capital of Texas Hwy Pflugerville, TX 78660 Austin, TX 78759 (512) 251-1737 (512) 343-6666
From: shiekh@ictp.trieste.it (Andy Shiekh) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.video,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ext hard drive enclosure Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:12:30 +0200 Organization: ICTP Message-ID: <shiekh-2001971112300001@mac-shiekh.ictp.trieste.it> References: <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il> In article <32DFD9C6.209E@aquanet.co.il>, hankin@aquanet.co.il wrote: > Hi! > I'm looking for ext. ide hard drive case > ( connected through parallel port ) > I've seen : > - anteck ks 510 for ~ $80 > - nexar REMOVABLE IDE HARD DRIVE CADDY for ~ $30 > - Cost effective 3.5" Parallel Port for ~ ??? > External Hard Drive Subsystem > - circo Removable Hard Drive Kit for ~ $30 > Can somebody tell me what is the best for me ( i gonna use it for > data transfer from my home PC to work one ) ? > Why is there $50 difference and what does it mean ? > > Thanks I guess the difference is the power supply.
From: m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Formating JAZ-Discs ? Date: 23 Jan 1997 12:48:05 GMT Organization: AMG Industrieconsulting GmbH Message-ID: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Hi there, does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? Thanks, Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111500.291@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: jburton@nwu.edu Organization: Disorganization References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:15:00 GMT A cheap backup solution I'm using: I run a Linux box with a QIC-80 Tape which you can buy for around 150$. The new Travan tapes can store several Gig and cost around 30$. The Linux ftap-driver works perfectly. The whole thing is not really fast, but for backups adequate. I do once per month a complete backup which takes about 4 hours / 800MB (using compressed afio) and some incremental Backups between. I regard this solution more reliable than the NeXT OD. BTW: Using Linux afio, even if the tape has some fault, afio can skip the damaged part and recover almost everything. This is *much* better than doing a huge tar.gz over the disk.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org.nospam (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Message-ID: <1997Jan16.111910.354@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: luomat@nerc.com Organization: Disorganization References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:19:10 GMT In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) TTYDSP is connected to the DSP port, not the serial port. BTW: Every NeXT-hardware can run the serial ports at 57600, but you get overrun errors from time to time. This might not be too bad if you have the right software. Just try it.
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Fast ROM-password removal (Was: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem.) Date: 16 Jan 97 10:27:28 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Distribution: world Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16102728@howard.one.net> References: <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com> <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu> In-reply-to: rdieter@math.unl.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:56:53 GMT In article <5bj99l$iab@crcnis3.unl.edu>, rdieter@math.unl.edu (Rex Dieter) writes: In article <5bj2bk$6bv@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, aisbell@ix.netcom.com (Art Isbell) writes: > bmw@visgen.com (Bruce Walker) wrote: > > In article <E3uy20.E9u@nidat.sub.org>, > > Peter Nitezki <Peter.Nitezki@bku.db.de> wrote: > > >2. "Standalone boot is guarded by a password you dont know". > > > Pull the power cord, open the box and remove the lithium > > > battery on the main board for an hour or two. > > For immediate results: using a bent paperclip or small screwdriver, > > short the contacts in the batteryholder together for a few seconds. > > Voila! No password. > Voila! Fried hardware. In my experience, it only takes 10-15 minutes after you remove the bettery to rest the hardware password. But, but, what if The Bad Guys are after you, and you only have a couple seconds? You don't have time to wait for the capacitor to drain! So you use the paper clip trick, start the boot (aha, no boot password), and ... dammit, fsck, we don't have time for fsck. It's booting again, arggghhh! Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: system hangs while booting Date: 16 Jan 97 10:31:19 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16103119@howard.one.net> References: <5bipmd$55l@jeeves.niehs.nih.gov> <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In-reply-to: far@ix.netcom.com's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:53:37 GMT In article <5bj93h$sv5@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, far@ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) writes: I must admit I am still amazed that a failure in the control circuitry of one SCSI drive could cause the problems I saw. I've found that NeXTSTEP is pretty sensitive to SCSI issues. My first Intel system, a 486, built by a crapball company, had a flakey SCSI disk (or controller, or whatever). It would work fine for long periods, and then it would have severe bouts of flakiness. I did some reformatting and reinstalling, and that would often fix it for awhile, but I suspect that it was some borderline problem, because it never just got to where it _worked_. Got the drive replaced, and then it worked fine. Never did figure out the exact interaction that was going on, though. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PD drives on black?? Date: 16 Jan 97 10:23:47 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan16102347@howard.one.net> References: <5bgh6b$k4r@news.acns.nwu.edu> <SHESS.97Jan15093829@slave.one.net> <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu> In-reply-to: jburton@nwu.edu's message of 15 Jan 1997 18:24:30 GMT In article <5bj7cu$ou7@news.acns.nwu.edu>, jburton@nwu.edu (Joshua W. Burton) writes: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) wrote: > Today, you can get a $300 SCSI Travan which can hold 2Gig, while > DAT drives are still up around $700. OTOH, Travan carts are $30, > DAT carts are under $10. This is the part I don't get. Why are people saving data to tape, when it appears to have a thousand times the failure rate (per read) of optical media, and MO drives are $500 with $30 cartridges? If tape drives were $140 and tapes were $5, it might make sense to me. Or if I had _so_ much data that everything but media cost was trivial. One reason is probably that a $600 DAT can write a 2G uncompressed tape in one sitting, and with compression you can reasonably expect 3G (and if you're compressing text only, 4G or more :-). If you are only archiving 500M, well, it doesn't make much difference either way. So far as the failure rate, the way I look at it is that MO is likely to be online an order of magnitude more than something like tape. The only time my tapes are online is during the backup (and during a restore, of course). If you treated your MO as if it were a tape, then you're safe enough, naturally. But I'm not willing to recommend it in a public forum because I suspect that too many people would compromise the archival nature of an MO by using it as an extension of their random access media. This is all somewhat mooted if you have something with a WORM style filesystem and the appropriate OS support. If you can only write the media once, right there you've done yourself a tremendous favor! I wish that CD-R worked that way. > "subject to getting tangled and torn"? That's a longshot. If > the drive has a mechanical failure, then it's unlikely _any_ > choice will save the media currently in the drive. But my music tape drives have had mechanical failures at least five times in the last twenty years, and I've _never_ seen a music CD get scratched by the read head. Aren't the computer versions fundamentally the same sprocket and read-head technology? I can't say much to that, as I don't have much experience with music tapes _or_ CDs. OTOH, part of the reason DATs are expensive is because they don't share parts with consumer electronics. CDs probably do, but I don't know about MOs and the like. > Tapes are intrinsically archival. Serial access is an > _advantage_ for backup media (specifically, "backup" implies that > you aren't going to be storing files you frequently need to > access on the tape). Scott, I respect your opinions a lot, so I'd like to understand your reasoning here. What possible advantage does it confer to have my data sitting in magnetic contact with other data on a mechanically-wound reel, instead of on a platter where I can get at it and it can't corrupt itself? This is probably mostly IMHO. With tape, the data will be sitting spooled on a reel - but the tape itself is likely to be sitting in a drawer with other tapes, rather than in a drive or on your desk. MOs and other removable media are more likely to be in the drive itself, a much more dangerous position. I guess I like tape because it removes the temptation entirely, rather than requiring discipline on the part of the user. Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <I plan to become so famous that people buy tapes of me reading source code>
From: suzawa@curly.cc.emory.edu (Satoru M. Uzawa) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium & NS 3.3 / Intel = black monitor? Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:51:31 -0500 Organization: Emory University Message-ID: <5blpr3$4f0@curly.cc.emory.edu> References: <32e74e1c.3453261@news.image.dk> lkjensen@dannug.dk wrote: : Hi : : I have a problem with NeXTSTEP 3.3/intel and Matrox Millennium. : : Lars Kilsaa Jensen : E-mail: : lkjensen@dannug.dk (no NeXTMAIL) I had the exactly the same problem with my Intel machine running 3.3p1. I have Millennium with 4MB and Symbios810 based SCSI card. I had video card in the first PCI slot and SCSI card in the second and got the problem described by you. Changing PCI slots to 3rd for SCSI card and 4th for video card auto-magically fixed the problem. I'm not sure why it could fix the problem but I suspect something with Matrox driver (I'm using 3.31), PCI driver and Plug-n-Pray. Hope that your problem would be fixed in same manner. Good luck! Satoru Uzawa, uzawa@uclink4.berkeley.edu (No NeXTmail yet)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Formating JAZ-Discs Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:22:36 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32E77386.2D37@soback.kornet.nm.kr> References: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Martin Mocker wrote: > > Hi there, > > does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? > > Thanks, > > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) To Installing NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP on a Jaz disk, Check out following Document. http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2155.htmld/2155.html YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Power Management bug on Intel Hardware? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:10:26 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c82hi$db0@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> Hi, I tried to enable power management on my Intel system running NS3.3. I set the option in Preference.app and I went into the bios and choose only to stop the video sync after 10 minutes of inactivity (this puts my monitor in power saving mode). The only wake up events I have set are mouse activity and keyboard activity. When I have just rebooted the computer and I stare at the login window for 10 minutes the power saving starts. However, when I log into my account and log out the power saving will never start. I don't know if this is related but only root has access to the power saving option, I beleive this is normal... but when I try to access the module in a non-root account I get "error while loading the module". It seems that this is a problem in NeXTSTEP because the power saving always start when I just rebooted. Anybody has a hint? Francois燤agnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
From: Bill Bradford <mrbill@texas.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: moving hard disks between slabs? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:23:20 GMT Organization: Texas Networking, Inc. Message-ID: <5c839o$6h1@news3.texas.net> References: <5c63vu$idr@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <5c69oj$jnj@bignews.shef.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit mmalcolm crawford <m.crawford@shef.ac.uk> wrote: : On 01/22/97, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi wrote: : > When it arrives, I plan to take the hard disk out of this Mono Turbo Slab, : > put it in the Color system, fire it up and get back to work. Is this : > expecting too much? Any reason to fear data loss? : I did just this, only from a color to mono station a couple of days ago. : No worries. : Best wishes, : mmalc. I did the reverse (from mono non-turbo to color adb turbo) with no problem. -- Bill Bradford (BB2623) Systems Admin, UNIX geek, BOFH mrbill@texas.net * mrbill@mrbill.net Texas Networking, Inc. "Its hard to beleive that the entire fate of 823 Congress, Suite 440 the world lies in the hands of the Phone Austin, TX 78701 Company" - War of the Worlds http://www.texas.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Syquest EZflyer on black? Message-ID: <cdoutyE4H7DM.GKw@netcom.com> Organization: Netcom On-Line Services Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT Sender: cdouty@netcom21.netcom.com Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. Thanks, Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:31:17 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180002301971031170001@news.sprynet.com> References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, blazek@stt.msu.edu (Rudolf B. Blazek) wrote: >Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a >non-ADB version? Well I have a NeXTstation mono ADB and I can use a Mac mouse ( Contour ergo) with the Next instead of the black Next mouse which would kill my hand ( RSI problem). -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: jacob@dannug.dk (Jacob Nielsen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT ISDN Adapter Date: 16 Jan 1997 12:56:41 GMT Organization: DanNUG -- Danish NeXT User Group Message-ID: <5bl8i9$fm@jnext.dannug.dk> References: <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Cc: luomat@nerc.com In <199701142034.PAA15642@nerc.com> Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > I noticed someone had a few for sale around here > > was wondering what the bottom line was on them > > ISDN adapter was black and I am not sure who makes them but it was > > sold by Nextconnection (when it was) > > in 3.0 there was something called "PhoneKit" that, if you took the > shlib's and put it on another NeXThardware machine, and got TTYDSP > you could use it, but the biggest drawback would be that the serial > port probably can't run at 57600 (some turbos can, and some people > have reported success with them). > > Bottom line, I guess, is that if you have a turbo, then it might > work, if you had the 3.0 shlib from the phonekit and the TTYDSP > program (as far as I know it) Since when was the PhoneKit and TTYDSP connected? TTYDSP is: 1. hardware, that's attached to the DSP port of black hardware allowing high throughput -- I think you can easily drive a 33k6 modem on it. 2. a little software, that makes a new "serial port" so you can use UUCP and *MorningStar* PPP. The free PPP implementation does not work with TTYDPS. 3. No longer sold and not supported (working, I suppose) under OpenStep -- meaning NS4.x at least. The ISDN adapter was also hardware and required the PhoneKit, which means you have to stay at NS3.0 (because of a conflict between the PhoneKit shared library and another shared library present in NS 3.x) And then there's the question if the adapter works with current days ISDN. If you want to use ISDN and black hardware, the way to go is a router with the NeXT connected via ethernet. Regards, Jacob -- Jacob Nielsen PGP-keyID: 1F0F3839 Email (NeXT, MIME and SUN) jacob@dannug.dk Maintainer of NEXTSTEP Software Reviews http://www.dannug.dk/jacob & My own home page :-) http://www.dannug.dk/~jacob
From: "Robert G. Jacobs" <rob@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Add a partition with Win95 on it Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:00:57 -0800 Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.92.970123130035.331C-100000@rjacobs.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm running NS 3.3 on my pc, but need to run Win95 for a couple of things. Is there anyway I can do this without buying new hardware or reinstalling NeXTStep? In DOS/Win I could use Partition Magic to add a partition, etc. Is there a utility for NS that will allow me to do this? Thanks. Rob ########################### # Herve de GROMARD # email/NeXTmail/MIME:hgromard@x-lan.alienor.fr # # X&LAN - FRANCE # Tel:(+33) 5 56 40 89 93 Fax:(+33) 5 56 40 57 99 #
#################################################################### From: dave@siqin.feinberg.nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Pentium Pro Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:42:35 GMT Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, US Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8m0b$mp3@news.acns.nwu.edu> I'm considering purchasing a Micron Pentium Pro system. Can anyone tell me if OPENSTEP 4.0 (aka NeXTSTEP) will run on it. Also, are the abilities of the Pentium Pro put to good use (as compared to the standard Pentium)? Thank's in advance, David A. Johnson
From: giddings@menominee.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Giddings) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:07:40 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this but can find zero info on it. I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com TEP 3.3). Optimal Object offers one pre-installed with NextStep. Info is at http://www.optimal-object.com/ under Hardware. -- Michael Giddings giddings@chem.wisc.edu giddings@barbarian.com (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 http://www.barbarian.com
From: tony.slade@cognos.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help finding schematics etc. Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 00:43:43 GMT Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA Message-ID: <5c8msg$hr4@mail.cognos.com> Hi, I've inherited a PC from a freind. He says that all parts are original so I will only include the model: AIC DX2_50 and serial #: 91001891 I'm trying to get any online info available so I can upgrade and/or maintain and troubleshoot. Any links to sights or newsgroups of this nature would be greatly appreciated. email is best!! tony.slade@cognos.com Regards
Message-ID: <32E796ED.65CB@lhep.unibe.ch> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:50:53 +0100 From: Juerg Beringer <beringer@lhep.unibe.ch> Organization: Laboratory for High Energy Physics, University of Bern MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software CC: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch Subject: Access to NS/Intel boot time options Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to access within the rc startup scripts the options entered at the NeXTStep (V3.3) boot prompt of an Intel machine? I am using e.g. config=SCSI at the boot prompt to load the device drivers according to a table SCSI.table (in /usr/Devices/System.config) instead of the standard Instance0 table. For different reasons I'd like to know in the startup scripts which options (if any) were selected. Thanks for any hints! Juerg Beringer E-mail: beringer@lhep.unibe.ch
From: magnan@jsp.umontreal.ca (Francois Magnan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? Date: 24 Jan 1997 00:12:17 GMT Organization: Universite de Montreal Distribution: world Message-ID: <5c8up1$so8@epervier.CC.UMontreal.CA> References: <E4DIK9.My@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> In-Reply-To: <E4DIK9.My@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> On 01/21/97, Steven M. Boker wrote: >Hi all- > >I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel >all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through >the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block >of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what >sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect >way to go about this. > >I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One >possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing >the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility >may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. > >Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? > >Steve >--- > Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) > sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) > http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 > I would suggest you pick one of the cubes to be a router and on it run SimpleNetworkStarter.app (you may need to restore the default netinfo database if you played with NetInfo). Put the right IP address and select a hostname for the server. You should choose automatic host addition. Then plug all the ethernet cables and start each other machine (while the router is running). If everything goes well you will be asked for a hostname on each host during the boot sequence (I also suppose that the machines have a virgin netinfo database and hostconfig file). Then go into Hostmanager.app on the server to set the right IP addresses for each machine. After that you can create network accounts, setup NFS file sharing, share printers,... everything you need locally. Then install PPP on the server. Don't play with HostManager.app like the instructions tell you to do. You can also set the router property on each client so it points to your server (you do not really need this I think but I did this). Hope this helps, Francois Magnan -- ______________________________________________________ Francois Magnan Departement de Mathematique & Statistiques Universite de Montreal email: magnan@mathcn.umontreal.ca (MIME, NeXTMail Ok!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: PC Mouse with black Hardware Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E43xFw.7JJ@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:23:56 GMT References: <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <32DDEC42.50E1@stud.phys.ethz.ch>, Fabian Braun <fbraun@stud.phys.ethz.ch> wrote: >Hello Out There!! > >Can anybody tell me if it is possible to use a PC mouse with a >NextStation by >connecting it to one of the serial ports. Probably one would need driver >software. Do such drivers exist? Where can I get one? > You can't use one via the serial port (except on Plan 9 ;-)) >A different solution might be connecting a PC mouse to the >keyboard/mouse >port of the NextStation (non ADB). Did Next use some kind of (common) >standard >for the mouse interface? > They used the normal h/v quadrature stuff. A PC bus mouse can be used this way with, among other things, the "Mouse Tail" from computerActive. Check out http://www.computeractive.com/ -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: Darryl Anton <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTERS ON NEC VERSA 6000 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:10:54 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32E8364E.1562@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IS THIS SYSTEM NEXTSTEP COMPATIBLE NO HASSALE TYPE INSTALATION
From: "Andrew Kim" <akim@cogsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NextStation Ethernet problem. Date: 23 Jan 97 23:05:12 +0000 Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <AF0D9F2E-36EA3@207.13.170.16> References: <x7vi8y3iem.fsf@spot.math.tulane.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this >seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the >problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3). > Can you tell me little bit more details like what type of connections and so on. --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PARAM>Helvetica</PARAM>>Try hitting CONTROL-C as the machine is hunting for the network - this >seems to work on my son's Turbo running 3.3 (but I don't have the >problem on my NeXTstation also running 3.3). ></FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE><X-FONTSIZE><PARAM>12</PARAM><FONTFAMILY><PA= RAM>Helvetica</PARAM> Can you tell me little bit more details like what type of connections and so on.</FONTFAMILY></X-FONTSIZE> --Cyberdog-MixedBoundary-00036D5A-- --Cyberdog-AltBoundary-00036D59--
From: Tom Priore <tpp109@email.psu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP! NeXTStep 3.3 (intel) and modems. Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 23:15:59 -0500 Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------F1E30D466E01" ------------F1E30D466E01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly missing some obvious things. The modem just doesn't repond to CU, TIP, or the PPP Dial up app. what is really weird is once you try to use tip on the port, the tip process locks, and can't be shut down with kill (or kill -9) the system wont even shut down because the shutdown process can disloge tip! Could my problem lay in Plug and Play, NS does find the modem durring boot up and i assume its setting it right. Any help at all will be usefull. Thanks Tom Priore tpp109@psu.edu ------------F1E30D466E01 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii <HTML><BODY> <DT> I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly missing some obvious things.</DT> <DT> The modem just doesn't repond to CU, TIP, or the PPP Dial up app. what is really weird is once you try to use tip on the port, the tip process locks, and can't be shut down with kill (or kill -9) the system wont even shut down because the shutdown process can disloge tip!</DT> <DT> Could my problem lay in Plug and Play, NS does find the modem durring boot up and i assume its setting it right.</DT> <DT> </DT> <DT>Any help at all will be usefull.</DT> <DT>Thanks</DT> <DT>Tom Priore</DT> <DT>tpp109@psu.edu</DT> </BODY> </HTML> ------------F1E30D466E01--
From: chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN and NeXT Cube Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:29:30 GMT Organization: Netcom Sender: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Message-ID: <1997Jan24.102930.612@cmich.slip.netcom.com> Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Originator: news@cmich.slip.netcom.com Hi: I'm running one of those old cube machines and was wondering if anyone has any experience with the cube and ISDN. I'm looking for some way to connect to the internet that's faster than a 28.8 baud modem (I use the SLIP protocol). I don't think the serial port on the next was designed to handle a modem any faster than this, so I assume ISDN is the way to go. However, can I use that Ethernet connection on the back of the cube for this? I don't have much experience with internet hardware, so any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. - Chuck -------------------------------------------------------------- chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted -------------------------------------------------------------- -- -------------------------------------------------------------- chuck@cmich.slip.netcom.com NeXT Mail and MIME Mail gladly accepted --------------------------------------------------------------
From: Aeldrik Pander <aeldrik@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:47:34 +0100 Organization: Technical University Delft, Lab. Seismics & Acoustics Message-ID: <32E89346.2C4D@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, About two years ago I read some documentation on a WWW-site about wiring a Logitec bus mouse to a NeXT Keyboard. This was done by simply replacing the plug and rewiring some of the coloured wires. I really don't know where to find the site anymore (wiped bookmarks). Anyone knows about this item or can tell me more ? Cheers ! Aeldrik ------------------------------------------------------------ Aeldrik Pander aeldrik@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl Lab. Seismics & Acoustics room D252 Delft Technical University +31 15 2782021 ------------------------------------------------------------
From: cwdancer@erie.net (George De Virgilio) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: gpib-board Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 05:29:02 GMT Organization: BOOTSCOOTERS Message-ID: <5c9hau$9js_001@bbs7.erie.net> Keywords: gpib Help. I need to purchase a used GPIB board. I have a Howtek Scanmaster 3+ that uses General Protocol Interface Bus board. The one they recommend is a National Instruments AT-GPIB/TNT but I believe any GPIB board that supports Windoes 3.1 will work. Please email me at <cwdancer@erie.net> George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bfbaker@netcom.com (Technom Enterprises Inc) Subject: Re: CD-Recordable? Message-ID: <bfbakerE4I378.6H8@netcom.com> Organization: Technom Enterprises, Inc. References: <5bmv8b$1r4k@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> <32E27808.246A@abacus.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:54:44 GMT Sender: bfbaker@netcom.netcom.com GEOF ABRUZZI wrote: > I bought a NeXT Station from a clearence at a University. This machine > came with a 3.0 CD and a licence for 3.3. I have managed to secure a 3.3 > disk temporarily, so I would like to make a copy of it. (This is legal I ran into a similar situation, and ended up using some excellent freeware by Jeff Arnold. I've copied several CD-ROMs, including one NeXT one, and they all work like a charm. These are DOS programs, but they live happily in a Win95 DOS box. Later, Brian Baker. bbaker@technom.com Here's an excerpt from the README file: CD2CD.EXE Copies a single-track data CD from any SCSI based CDROM drive directly to the CD recorder. The reader must be faster than the recorder (i.e. 4X reader when recording at 2X, or a 2X reader when recording at 1X). CD2FILE.EXE and FILE2CD.EXE Copies a CD from any SCSI based CDROM drive to an "image" file on disk. This file can then be used by FILE2CD to write the image to the CD recorder. These two programs will allow someone who doesn't have a SCSI CDROM drive on their system to make copies of CDs using only their CD recorder for both reading the source disc and writing the new disc. FILE2CD can also be used to make ISO9660 discs if you already have a program that can build ISO image files. You must use the /POSTGAP switch so that the proper track postgap is written to the disc. DISK2CD.EXE Copies a SCSI harddrive block-by-block to the CD recorder. This program can be used to make native VMS and Unix CDs from the PC. The harddrive cannot be larger than the capacity of a CDROM (650Mb). NOTE: DOS and NT CDROMs must be in ISO9660 format, so making an image copy of a PC disk won't work. --- snip --- Please send all suggestions, comments, and bug reports to... Golden Hawk Technology 125 Indian Rock Road Merrimack, NH 03054 Phone: 603-424-0269 FAX : 603-429-0073 Email: jarnold@mainstream.net URL : http://www.mainstream.net/goldenhawk
From: Michael Delver <silpics@demon.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Connecting JAZ Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:56:45 +0000 Message-ID: <32E85D2D.D55@demon.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have downloaded JAZ.pkg and made disctab entry but still get the error message 'sc: parity error' on start up. I assume there is a cable problem but I don't know what I need. Any advice greatly appreciated. Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: bfbaker@netcom.com (Technom Enterprises Inc) Subject: Re: ?Good back-up for Black NeXTstation Color? Message-ID: <bfbakerE4I3t9.7q8@netcom.com> Organization: Technom Enterprises, Inc. References: <5bq8qh$a6j@uni2f.unige.ch> <5c0j6c$4ib@news.knoware.nl> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:07:57 GMT Sender: bfbaker@netcom.netcom.com Paul Harts (harts@knoware.nl) wrote: : Hi, : I would appreciate any advice on equipment that has proven itself as back up for black : hardware, e.g. my NeXTstation Color. Prices are not that important since a lot is at stake. : Thanks for any advice. : Paul. : -- : ==================================================== : | harts@knoware.nl | ' What's a FAQ?' | : | the Netherlands | probably is one | : | NeXTmail Welcomed! | | : ==================================================== Greetings, I've been using a combination of SafetyNet (by Systemix Software, Inc.) and an Exabyte 4200c DAT drive. If money had been no object, I'd have gotten an 8mm drive instead, but I've had great results so far (about 3 years now). I have 4 tapes, each of which gets used for a week at a time (1 full, 6 incrementals, and then swap tapes). With this scheme, a bad tape would lose up to a week of data, but it gives me 4 weeks of history to go back to. Swapping tapes every day and taking the latest home with you (or to work with you, depending on where the machine lives) ought to keep your data nice and safe. Later, Brian Baker. bbaker@technom.com
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: HELP! NeXTStep 3.3 (intel) and modems. Date: 24 Jan 1997 15:55:07 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5cam0r$tei@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> In-Reply-To: <32E8377F.36BE@email.psu.edu> On 01/23/97, Tom Priore wrote: > I'm running NS 3.3 on an intel platform and i'm having some >problems getting apps to talk to my USR sporster 33.6 PNP internal >modem. I beleive the modem sets it self to com 2 (port b) but i can't >get anything out of it in NS. I'm pretty new to next, and I'm problaly >missing some obvious things. The first thing you need is an entry in the file /etc/remote to define a few params (most importantly the baud rate) for the serial port. My line to define a device called "dialer", using port A, looks like this: dialer:dv=/dev/cua:br#2400: After this has been defined (and you've rebooted), the command "tip dialer" will give tip access to a modem on port A. If your modem is on port B, use /dev/cub. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: shess@one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Date: 24 Jan 97 09:01:46 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Message-ID: <SHESS.97Jan24090146@howard.one.net> References: <cdoutyE4H7DM.GKw@netcom.com> In-reply-to: cdouty@netcom.com's message of Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT In article <cdoutyE4H7DM.GKw@netcom.com>, cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) writes: Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. I've got an EZFlyer. Beyond the obvious cabling needs (EZFlyer is 25-pin Mac-style SCSI connector), it was completely plug&play. I had a motorola NS boot disk built in a few minutes, and booted from it a couple minutes later. Right now it's hooked up to my PC, with an Asus PC200 SCSI card (NCR 810 chipset). Works fine. The only real concern I have about it is that it's got those 25-pin connectors (accomplished by dropping the ground lines on a standard 50-pin), and it's "self-terminating" (recognizes if it's at the end of the chain and terminates automagically). Anyone who's worked with SCSI much at all recognizes that termination is important, and I would rather have my own terminator in there. But, since I don't trust the 25-pin stuff, the EZFlyer is at the end of my chain, and I don't have a 25-pin terminator on-hand. Well, it still seems to work fine, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell>
From: jch@cube.philosophy.pitt.edu (John Haugeland) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Date: 24 Jan 1997 14:13:12 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <5cag1o$gc0@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> References: <32E6DB09.48EE@bfwa.com> It's a Canon engine, isn't it? Bruce F. Webster <bwebster@bfwa.com> wrote: >OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi laser >printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers repaired.
From: ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:17:41 GMT Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology Message-ID: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by manufacturor? Babak Ashrafi ashrafi@mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701231541.KAA10406@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: b23d0d1731260193eb4f743bb6c18dee - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 97 10:41:49 -0500 Subject: Re: urgent help with CDROM Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: b23d0d1731260193eb4f743bb6c18dee - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: yew@jove.seas.ucla.edu (Wenming Ye) Original Date: 23 Jan 1997 05:22:17 GMT > Recently, our CDROM for a next computer broke. Does anyone know > what kind of cdrom drive would work on the original black next > hardware? I tried a toshiba, (for sgi and sun), but it did not seem > to work. I know that some old apple drive will work, but if we were > to purchase a new one, what kind would you recommand ? Internal Sony 4x CD-ROM (# CDU76) (pay no more than $100) AND External case for above CD-ROM (#CS-EXTDR1) ($48) Call 1-800-REAL-PCS (ASA Computers). I'm using this CD-ROM and case, and so is someone else I met here, and no problem whatsoever. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 24 Jan 97 18:03:05 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0EA9DD-224769@207.147.62.22> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 4:17 PM, Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi <mailto:ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu> wrote: > How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by > manufacturor? Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of a trinitron. Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 24 Jan 97 18:13:16 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans <mailto:dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: > You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a > different keyboard/mouse if you want. "Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? Mitch --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: sesbra1@umbc.edu (Steven Esbrandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: About Dimension Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:48:57 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Message-ID: <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu> References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <E4F1M8.9L1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> NNTP-Posting-User: sesbra1 David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: : >Could the port do realtime : >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time : >Movie on the fly? :) : No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the : relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about : 4-5fps. I saw some next literature describing the Next Dimension that talked about compression; is this done by the main cpu, then? Also, if the board is not useful for digitizing a video stream, can it still be used for overlaying graphics and text and the like? -Steven
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 24 Jan 1997 18:27:32 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5cbk1k$6n9@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> Ident-User: liuyi Mitchell Allen <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >> On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans wrote: >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. > > "Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse > sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT > keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? I have not tried it, but according to Shannon Edwards of DeepSpace, you _can_ use your non-ADB (L-shape Return) keyboard on an ADB system. I didn't ask him about putting a non-ADB mouse on an ADB. Make sure you call Shannon (301.663.3033) to verify before you try this, since it's been a few days since Shannon told me that. But Shannon Edwards should know a thing or two about NeXT hardware. BTW, the ADB mouse doesn't look or feel as well built as the non-ADB one. The ADB keyboard has a more rational layout of keys (e.g. ~, |), otherwise it's a flimsy piece of cheap plastic compared to the non-ADB keyboard. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Formating JAZ-Discs ? Message-ID: <E4ItyK.AwD@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:32:43 GMT In article <5c7mm5$r5j@hagen.amg.de> m_mocker@amg.de. (Martin Mocker) writes: > Hi there, > > > does anyone know, how to format a JAZ Disc (IOMEGA) under NEXTSTEP 3.3 ?? > > Thanks, > > > Martin Mocker (mm@amg.de) Hi Martin, have a look at NextAnwsers, Document 2154. There you'll find a description on how to setup a disktab entry and how to format the cartridge. If you don't have access to NextAnswers (available for example at www.next.com) or if you encounter further problems, feel free to send me email. Robert. -- ========================================================================== == Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ========================================================================== ==
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: robert@onevision.de (Robert Wunderer) Subject: Re: Imagine128 and a stupid new user. Message-ID: <E4Iv0I.AxF@onevision.de> Sender: news@onevision.de Organization: OneVision GmbH, Regensburg, Germany References: <853742419.29431@dejanews.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:55:30 GMT In article <853742419.29431@dejanews.com> tpp109@psu.edu writes: > I'm very new to NeXT (but not to computers), and I need some help. I > installed NeXT (intel) on my system. Durring the final install step I > picked the wronge video card. (acutuall I was half right) I have an > Imagine 128. (which has a cirus chipset on it for VGA comadibility this is > the driver i choose 'cause the I128 wasn't an option.) > I rebooted and after the system anitailizes from what I can tell, NeXT > swiches into the graphics mode, at which my screen goes blank. > I need to know 2 things 1. is how do i change the driver. I downloaded > the correct one (1741_Number_Nine_Imagine128_Driver.pkg.compressed) from > NeXT. the other thing is, how do i get to the driver? Can i boot into a > non gui mode, and play with things there? once there what do I do? I am > dual booting, and the file is on a fat partion. Can NeXT see a Fat > partion? (like i said I'm new.) Could i dump the file to a floppy? > So many question! Ah I need help!! > > Oh yea, how do i setup PPP. well maybe this question could wait. > > Thanks for any help > > Tom Priore > tpp109@psu.edu > prioret@mailgate.navsses.navy.mil > -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- > http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet Hi Tom, first of all try to boot using config=Default. Enter this line at the Next boot prompt, just after you have selected next in your dual boot program. NextStep will then start up using a standard configuration which includes the standard VGA video driver, the one which you should probably have chosen instead of the cirrus one. You could also boot into single user mode, the non-gui mode, using -s as an option at the boot prompt. But the needed steps aren't that easy to explain since you are new to NextStep. Once NextStep has completed starting (config=Default), and you are logged into NextStep, the FAT partition of your harddisk will be mounted automatically as long as it is a primary dos partition. If this is the first time you start NextStep, you'll be logged in as user me. Give this user a password using the Preferences.app (the clock), log out and log back in as root, the admin user. Then copy the package from the FAT to the NextStep partition, decompress the file by double-clicking on it (remember to rename the file if the file name is skipped), install the package by double-clicking on it and open /NextAdmin/Configure.app to remove the wrong and set up the correct display driver. If you want to setup ppp, have a look at www.thoughtport.com:8080/PPP/. You'll get a quite easy to use ppp daemon there, if I have the correct address in mind. If you have any further questions, feel free to send me email. Perhaps this helps, Robert. ========================================================================== Robert Wunderer OneVision GmbH Support Zeissstrasse 9 Email:robert@onevision.de 93053 Regensburg (NextMail,MIME welcome) Germany ==========================================================================
From: Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:24:18 -0800 Organization: PCG Message-ID: <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu Michael Giddings wrote: > > I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display > to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this > but can find zero info on it. > > I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. > > -- > Michael Giddings > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > giddings@barbarian.com > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > http://www.barbarian.com Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben
From: Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Connecting Next monitor to PC Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:23:41 -0800 Organization: PCG Message-ID: <32E9528C.5369@photonweb.com> References: <5c5gvl$1b1e@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: giddings@whitewater.chem.wisc.edu Michael Giddings wrote: > > I have a NeXT monitor I'd like to use with a PC. I've heard that there is > some kind of adapter for this. I would appreciate any pointers to where I > might find this adapter. > > Thanks. > -- > Michael Giddings > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > giddings@barbarian.com > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > http://www.barbarian.com Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC Ben
From: amoghal@predator (Aamir Moghal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Date: 25 Jan 1997 01:29:15 GMT Organization: PSI Public Usenet Link Message-ID: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for sale? Thanks, Aamir
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4JE06.CsK@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 23:45:42 GMT References: <cdoutyE4H7DM.GKw@netcom.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <cdoutyE4H7DM.GKw@netcom.com>, Chris Douty <cdouty@netcom.com> wrote: >Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? How >about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? If you haven't used them on black >hw, I'm interesed in general fit with NS on any platform. > Yes, people have used them. They work fine. No disktab entry needed. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: al166119@academ03.mty.itesm.mx (Edgar Avila V zquez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP!!!NEED TO ERASE PASS!!!! Date: 25 Jan 1997 00:53:28 GMT Organization: ITESM Campus Monterrey . DINF-DTCI Message-ID: <5cbli8$d2@news.mty.itesm.mx> I have a Nextstation using it as a server. But something got wrong this morning when my partners were trying to power up. The machine is asking for a hardware password. Nobody remember something about it. Someone knows how to erase it? Please!!! We have a lot of work, and more is comming!!!!
From: nospam@nospam.com (J*A*V*I) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Newie needs help installing NS 3.0 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:25:26 -0800 Organization: N/A Sender: mesamart@ccp-mac5.usc.edu Message-ID: <nospam-2401971025260001@ccp-mac5.usc.edu> Hi! I just got an ol' black box and I having quite a hard time to get her up and running. It came with a MO drive plus a HD, however I don't know any of the passwords. So I tried booting in single user mode and it all went fine until I tryed to change the password for root, then it didn't know who root was. Same happened when I tried to change me's passwrd. However I did a 'su me' and a 'su root' and it did not complain (until I tried to change the password...). The machine used to be part of a network so most of the system files are mere pointers (NFS?), thus (I guess?) it is trying to obtain the passwd file from a server or somthing like that. I also try to run the loginpanel when in single user mode and again it complains. I got an external CDROM (apple) and plug it into the external port, then I tried to boot from it, but It complained about the disk. Then I went back to single user mode from the HD, and I was able to mount the CDROM. But in the process of mounting it I got something like 6 scsi errors, after that it mounted the CDROM with no problem. It seems that I would need a floppy disk in order to create the boot.cdrom image and be able to boot from the cdrom. However the system does not come with a floppy. The cube is a 68040 based one (if that makes any difference) and it is not a turbo. I am not too used to work with this type of hardware so I really need someone outhere to help me here =). Here are my questions: 1) Is there any type of 'backdoor' account that I can get into when the computer boots normally and presents the login panel? 2) how can I reinstall the software (i've got the cdrom) into the HD whe I log in single user mode? Is there any script that can be run after mounting the cdrom? 3) Can I initialice the MO floppy with boot.cdrom? I tryed to do it with disk, but It didn't let me. I tryed to do it so I could use bod instead of bfd in order to be able to boot from the cdrom. I got an spare MO floppy and I would like to use this approach, since as I stated before I have no floppy drive. 4) I there is no other alternative, and I really need a floppy drive... does a normal peecee floppy work with the NeXT (does it have an input for it in the '040 motherboard)? Or does it use one of those funky scsi drives.... I also have a scsi zip drive, could I use it instead of a scsi floppy? Well, this is pretty much it. Any help will be welcome. I really would like to get this machine up and running. Hope it works as good as it looks (I hope that Mr. Jobs is taking his system stylist with him over to apple 8-) ) Thats all folks... Peace! ps. I have an antispam adress so please reply to this message in the newsgroup.
From: Diey1l2@postoffice.ptd.net (Kai Dieyi) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logitech Scanner available Date: 25 Jan 1997 03:19:49 GMT Organization: Waitao Committee Message-ID: <5cbu4l$j5a$12@news.ptd.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Konichi wa, I am offering a Logitech ScanMan Color scanner for the opening price of 200 dollars, but the price is negotiable and may come down. It is a bus card scanner and has Win95/Win3.1 sorftware on 3.5 disks, as is the standard. If you're interested, e-mail me at diey1l2@postoffice.ptd.net. Perhaps we can work out a deal! Sayonara.
From: Dale Brisinda <brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3Comm 3C500-Combo PCI Ethernet Card for OPENSTEP? Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:43:38 -0700 Organization: University of Calgary Sender: brisinda@ip Message-ID: <ufvi8nklyt.fsf@ip.i-have-a-misconfigured-system-so-shoot-me> Does anyone know if the 3Comm 3C500-Combo PCI card is supported in OPENSTEP 4.1? Has anyone tried it out? Looking at the list of supported cards, a number of 3Comm cards including the 3C507 ISA, 3C509 ISA, and 3C509B ISA, etc. are supported but no specific mention of this particular PCI card. Any information would be appreciated, Dale -- Dale Brisinda, Grad. Student Dept. of Computer Science, University of Calgary brisinda@acm.org or brisinda@cpsc.ucalgary.ca http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~brisinda/home.html
From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What ppp protocal is required to run TTYDSP on NeXTSTEP OS Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:19:06 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Message-ID: <5cbjhq$m62@slip.net> Hi, I'm about to buy a TTYDSP modem to connect to an ISDN line. The modem is said to support MorningStar ppp, Transys PNI and tip and kermit. But freeware implmentations. Will this modem be satisfactory for connecting the cube to the IDSN? Will I need to aquire any NS specific software? I currently have NeXTSTEP 2.0 but plan to upgrade. What OS should I upgrade too? Is there anyone out there that insists I should give up my ethernet connection and go with Bit Surfer or Assend? Thanks, Emmett Thanks, Emmett
From: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT Organization: Nanyang Technological University Message-ID: <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Hi, I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two partitions of let's say 2 MB? Thanks, Willem PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241512.KAA10703@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: fd270a6d187b9fb30a4f26e0c8b4b85d - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:12:47 -0500 Subject: Re: Epson print engine in NeXTprinter Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: fd270a6d187b9fb30a4f26e0c8b4b85d - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: "Bruce F. Webster" <bwebster@bfwa.com> Original Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:29:13 -0500 > OK, what's the actual Epson print engine within the NeXT 400 dpi > laser printer? I need to know in order to get two dead printers > repaired. Please reply to the address below or to g8ubew@fnma.com. > Thanks! Weren't they Canon engines? You might be better off getting new ones, they are $200-$300 in csn.marketplace. If you have to ship the LP anywhere you are looking at a major expense. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 25 Jan 1997 07:31:00 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> In-Reply-To: <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> On 01/24/97, "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >On Fri, Jan 24, 1997 2:43 PM, David Evans ><mailto:dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca> wrote: >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. > >"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? > Sure, its ADB... I've got a Color Turbo with an Apple Ergonomic (snicker) keyboard and a Kensington "Its as smooth as a babies bum" Mouse on it. The NeXT Keyboard was OK... The problem with the mouse was that the rubber gasket around the mouse would deteriorate over time and got all gooey. -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:43:22 GMT References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu>, Rudolf B. Blazek <blazek@stt.msu.edu> wrote: >Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a >non-ADB version? > You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a different keyboard/mouse if you want. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701241517.KAA10751@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 3768bb97e47320614163d01e65edeb03 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:17:12 -0500 Subject: Re: Syquest EZflyer on black? Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 3768bb97e47320614163d01e65edeb03 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Original Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:27:22 GMT > Has anyone used the Syquest EZflyer 230 drive on motorola hardware? Yes, I have heard several people say they were using them; simple plug and play. > How about the new SyJet 1.5GB removables? I think they should also be plug and play, and no disktab needed, but I can't be sure until someone posts officially. SyQuest uses the same format as regular hard drives, so they should all work. > If you haven't used them on black hw, I'm interesed in general fit > with NS on any platform. The SyJet is high on my list of considerations for my next hard drive. I like the idea of being able to put an OS on each cart (except WinNT of course, which I probably wouldn't use anyway, but it can't be booted from a removable drive last I heard). I've got the EZ135 which has worked like a charm for me. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: bchin@us.net (Bill Chin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 25 Jan 1997 09:52:09 GMT Organization: US Net - MD,DC,VA ISP - info@us.net Message-ID: <5ccl49$md8@news.us.net> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) wrote: >How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is > it by manufacturor? Trinitron monitors have a distinctive shape. Unlike other tubes, they are cylindrical. That means they are flat vertically, and curved back at the left and right edges. Kind of like a can. You can also look for the support wires on the screen, but you'd better not. If you don't notice them now, don't look for them otherwise you'll always notice them. :-) The FIMI monitors where made by Philips and pretty much really sucked. They are standard tubes, which means they curve back both vertically and horizontally. -- Bill Chin - bchin@us.net - NeXTmail/MIME welcomed
From: jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw (Jiunn-jye Huang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: 25 Jan 1997 14:01:36 GMT Organization: National Chiao-Tung University, Taiwan, R.O.C. Message-ID: <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Hello,all, I know the performance of cube is poor, I want to ask if there is any extra hardware for Dimension which we can grab NTSC signal at the rate of 30 fps? And the quality is 640x480x24bit. Or maybe the hardware can do realtime compression to NeXTTime or what else. I know there is Digital Eyes, but it seems that the hardware can only grab 160x120? BTW, where could I buy Digital Eyes? If there is better choice, let me know. :) Thanks in advance. -- 独玊城 = Jiunn-jye Huang Administrator of Taiwan main NeXT ftp site, ftp://ftp.cm.nctu.edu.tw/ ===============================#========================================= Dept. of Communication Eng. # mailto:jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw National Chiao Tung University # NeXTMail,PGP,MIME are welcome! 1001 Rd. University # URL http://www.cm.nctu.edu.tw/~jjhuang Hsin Chu City # Phone: +886-3-5726111 x82408/x54592 300 Taiwan # PGP Key ID=0xC40BC8B5 on Key Server ===============================#=========================================
From: Brian Sutherland <bcs@onramp.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Networking NeXTs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:58:45 -0600 Organization: OnRamp Technologies; ISP; Dallas/Ft Worth/Houston, TX USA Message-ID: <32EA3BC5.7858@onramp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a NeXT Turbo Dimension and NeXT Turbo Color Station. One has a NeXT Color Printer and one has a CDROM drive. I want to be able to share these devices between the two computers. I only have the Academic version of NeXTSTEP 3.3 and no real good manuals. I do not know how to set up a Netinfo or any type of NeXT server. Can anyone help me via email or phone? Or if you have any lead to where I can find NeXT networking information it would be helpful. Please reply to both email and newsgroup so I do not miss your answer. Thanx -Brian bcs@onramp.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: US Robotics Sportster V.34 with Black Hardware Message-ID: <1997Jan25.115647.1020@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: amoghal@predator Organization: Disorganization References: <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:56:47 GMT In <5cbnlb$7dn@client2.news.psi.net> Aamir Moghal wrote: > Are there any drivers available for US Robotics Sportster V.34 faxmodem > for NextStep? Has anyone had any luck using the Sportsters with Black > Hardware? Also does anyone have a Modem cable for Black hardware for > sale? From the docs it seems that you can use the latest mgetty+sendfax package from linux. Get version 1.0 or later. I never tried it but would be glad to receive any reports on succs/failures.
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 25 Jan 1997 18:29:38 GMT Message-ID: <5cdjei$5je@news1-alterdial.uu.net> References: <5cccrk$o37@news.digifix.com> > >> You get the cool ADB keyboard, the cool ADB BatMouse, and you can use a > >> different keyboard/mouse if you want. _________________ will a wacom tablet of other-than 12x12 inch format, connected through the adb keyboard port with the mouse, work with tablet-reading apps? [the white manuals stipulate a 12x12 format connected via serial b, but they were published before the advent of turbo-adb hardware.] thanks, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 8MB Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:12:06 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32EA5AF0.2E00@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I interesting Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 8MB VRAM version. Anyboy has experience of that card in the NEXTSTEP 3.3 and OPENSTEP 4.x. or can tell me more ? Is that supports 1600x1200x16M color? I know about the Number9 Imagine 128 Series 2 4MB version will work in the NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP. (http://www.next.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2489.htmld/2489.html) Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin From: fmlazar@interactive.net (Frank Lazar) Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Organization: AMUSE-New York Amiga Users Group Message-ID: <fmlazar-2501971358220001@host052.jerseycity.interactive.net> References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:58:22 GMT In article <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com>, Ben Konjkav <ben@photonweb.com> wrote: > > > Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & > the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC > > Ben The EGS Spectrum graphics card I use with one of my Amigas has settings for using a NeXT monitor. I'm going to have to try it out one of these days. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | _ | | We are dreamers, shapers, singers and makers. /_\ | | We study the mysteries of laser and circuit, // \\ | | Crystal and scanner, holographic demons, \\ //___\\ | | And invocations of equations. \\ // \\ | | \\__// \\ | | These are the tools we employ. And we know... many things. \\ | | \\ | | | Frank Lazar http://www.interactive.net/~fmlazar | \\ | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:54:38 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32EA7302.1932@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the NEXTSTEP. How about the disk safety and speed? I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:56:54 +0900 Organization: KORNET Message-ID: <32EA7389.FCA@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the NEXTSTEP. How about the disk safety and speed? I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. Thanks in advance. YoungHoon Kil ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Cyberdog, Voice Mail OK) http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai (NEXTSTEP Q&A Board & Info written by Korean)
From: "Eric Brown" <ebrown@pointcast.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Date: 25 Jan 1997 21:20:07 GMT Organization: scruz-net Message-ID: <01bc0b05$87f76250$3374e3a5@delphi> My NeXT printer sucks in the paper about 2 inches and then tells me it's got a paper jam. If I'm lucky and nudge the paper in the right way, I won't get the paper jam. But I'm not lucky very often and I couldn't imagine doing this for every page. This isn't the problem talked about in the hardware faq. My printer only seems off by a millimeter or so but I'm really stuck. Has anybody had similar experiences? Thanks, Eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: About Dimension Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4Kxps.JI5@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 19:49:04 GMT References: <5bs38u$c1b@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> <E4F1M8.9L1@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5cbao9$3i7@news.umbc.edu>, Steven Esbrandt <sesbra1@umbc.edu> wrote: >David Evans (dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca) wrote: >: >Could the port do realtime >: >video digitization? I mean can I convert a video tape(VHS) to Quick Time >: >Movie on the fly? :) >: No. There's no compression hardware on the ND, and the NeXTbus (and/or the >: relevant software) can't sustain full uncompressed video. You can get about >: 4-5fps. > >I saw some next literature describing the Next Dimension that talked about >compression; is this done by the main cpu, then? > It depends on what you mean by "compression". The Window Server in 4.x compresses backing stores using the i860 on the Dimension board, reducing memory requirements. However, the JPEG compression option, which NeXT talked long and loud about (and why not--it was pretty damn cool in 1991!) was never completed. >Also, if the board is not useful for digitizing a video stream, can it still >be used for overlaying graphics and text and the like? > Yes. You can display live video on the ND screen, stick text over this video, grab frames, and output sections of your NeXT display to an external video monitor/VCR/whatever. I've never tried bringing in live video, pasting stuff on top of it, and sending it out, but I have a hunch it won't work. I seem to recall a post around here a while ago saying that the video input/ output sections of the ND are isolated, with the i860 and friends in between. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Bootup problems Date: 18 Jan 1997 18:48:22 GMT Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <5br5tm$gvq@nntp1.u.washington.edu> References: <5arqac$2m9@nntp1.u.washington.edu> Keywords: Bootup problems tpayne@u.washington.edu (Thomas Payne) writes: >Nextstep 3.3 was working fine on my Gateway 486DX66 until one day when it >hung on 'starting automounter' during bootup. Running 'boot: -v' showed >that the point at which bootup hangs is when the line 'starting file >service daemons' is displayed. I know of no damage or change to the >system that should have caused this to happen. Any suggestions for >solving this? >Thanks. >Tom Payne Here's the solution, courtesy of Paul Lynch: At the boot prompt, type -s. This takes you to root prompt (#). Type: cp /usr/template/client/etc/hostconfig /etc This replaces /etc/hostconfig, solving the problem. Tom Payne -- Thomas Payne, MD Clinical Computing Project Group Health Cooperative of Puget Sound, Seattle
From: "Eddy Cue" <cue@apple.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.1 vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 16:29:09 -0800 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <cue-2501971629090001@17.128.203.143> I am trying to install OpenStep 4.1 user on a 486 PC with Adaptec 1542CF SCSI card, internal CD-ROM and external hd. I was able to run through the installer including picking the Adaptec driver. The installer completes successfully and asks to remove the disk and restart. On restart, booting fails at - rootdev 300, howto 0 vfs_mountroot: error=19 panic: (Cpu 0) vfs_mountroot: cannot mount root Any suggestions? Eddy Cue cue@apple.com
From: stop@spam.com (see sig for my real address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: 26 Jan 1997 00:52:47 GMT Organization: Videotron Communications Ltd. (WAVE) Message-ID: <5ce9sv$e282@crash.videotron.ab.ca> On 01/23/97, Aeldrik Pander wrote: >About two years ago I read some documentation on a WWW-site about >wiring a Logitec bus mouse to a NeXT Keyboard. Dancing Bear Enterprises (www.dancingbear.com) used to sell an adapter for this, but I just checked their site and they've quit selling NeXT hardware. Their page does still have a few pointers to other vendors in this vanishing market, so that might help you. -- -------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Univ. of Alberta Psychology Dept. Network manager, Web manager, postmaster gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome!) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld
From: Darryl Anton <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:11:24 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tablets on black ADB Date: 22 Jan 1997 22:22:36 GMT Message-ID: <5c63vc$6tu@news1-alterdial.uu.net> my old white manual says only 12" tablets connected to serial B are accepted. but that was before the introduction of turbo-adb hardware. will a smaller tablet connected to the adb keyboard jack, along with the mouse, be read by tablet-supporting software like tiffany2 and virtuoso? thanks for any help, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 09:26:05 -0500 Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 04:27:26 GMT Message-ID: 066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94 - [replace "MB" with "Gigabyte" when reading quoted area ;-] > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB > partition, would that then work? And what about a disk with two > partitions of let's say 2 MB? is less than (not = to) then it will work. You can have as many <2 gig partitions as you want > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. > Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. "out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at "sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum drives. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701251422.JAA03242@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 27cfec1827734fafe20842d968c0c070 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 97 09:22:15 -0500 Subject: Re: HELP!!!NEED TO ERASE PASS!!!! Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 27cfec1827734fafe20842d968c0c070 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: al166119@academ03.mty.itesm.mx (Edgar Avila V zquez) Original Date: 25 Jan 1997 00:53:28 GMT > I have a Nextstation using it as a server. But something got wrong > this morning when my partners were trying to power up. The machine > is asking for a hardware password. Nobody remember something about > it. Someone knows how to erase it? > Please!!! We have a lot of work, and more is comming!!!! see: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/faq.html TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: _扒 pa Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help! CDROM Failure Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:58:45 GMT Organization: Dept. of Computer & Information Science, NCTU, Taiwan Message-ID: <5c8cd5$mlq@news.cis.nctu.edu.tw> My old PC worked well with NS 3.3 before. Someday after it was replaced with new mainboard with AIC7880 chip on-board, the SCSI CDROM became failure to mount on to the system. By checking with Workspace->Tools->Console, it shows Workspace: Cannot exec /CDROM/Modules/Preferences/FSAlarmClock/FSAlarmClock.preferences/F SChime: (not a valid program). The CDROM model is NEC501 configured with Adaptec 2940 PCI SCSI adapter (v3.37) driver, same with the old config. When system started up, the BIOS can be successfully installed. After booting-up to Nextstep, inquired with SCSI_Inspector, the CDROM can be identified for target id-4, but fail to pass diagnostics for the unit not ready. Can any one help to solve this problem? Or should I provide more information about the computer setting or else to figure out the problem resulted from? Thanks in advance. Su-Lin Yang slyang@cc.nctu.edu.tw
From: Chris Stuart <cstuart@ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Memory for Cube Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:56:08 -0800 Organization: Center for Research in Computing and the Arts Message-ID: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? Thanks very much. -- **************************** Chris Stuart Systems Administrator University of California, San Diego Center for Research in Computing and the Arts cstuart@ucsd.edu (619) 534-4383 ****************************
From: Isaac <isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 08:35:20 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970123083031.23793A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Rudolf B. Blazek" <blazek@stt.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <5c74bs$16ts@msunews.cl.msu.edu> On 23 Jan 1997, it was written: > Hi, could anyone tell me the advantages of a NeXTstation Color Turbo over a > non-ADB version? Well, I prefer the ADB keyboard and mouse to the non-ADB versions. Also, if the mouse fails, it can simply be replaced by a Mac mouse. It comes down to personal preference, really. If you like "manhandling" your mouse, you'd probably prefer the original "brick" mouse. If you prefer a more ergonomic approach, you'll like the ADB input devices. Also, I think the ADB colour Turbos came with Trinitron monitors, which many people seem to prefer to the FIMI monitors. -Isaac isaac@lab.housing.fsu.edu (NeXTmail welcome!)
From: cdb@precipice.com (christopher) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: adb tablet connection Date: 26 Jan 1997 05:21:36 GMT Message-ID: <5cepl0$kbf@news1-alterdial.uu.net> will a wacom tablet, connected through the adb keyboard port with the mouse, work with tablet-reading apps? [the white manuals stipulate a 12x12 format connected via serial b, but they were published before the advent of turbo-adb hardware.] thanks, chris borden cdb@thoughtport.com
From: liuyi@cs.utexas.edu (Yi Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 26 Jan 1997 00:40:43 -0600 Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <5ceu9b$esh@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> References: <066f5a78123353763c345b28d7677f94> <-> <199701251426.JAA03288@nerc.com> Ident-User: liuyi [Posted and CC'ed to sanguish@digifix.com] Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >Responding To: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg (Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan ) >> ... >> PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. >> Does it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. > >"out of the box" may not be the problem, it may be what happens >after it has been working for a little while, and die, as happened >to Scott Anguish on several occasions. You can contact him at >"sanguish@digifix.com" and ask him how he feels about Quantum >drives. Scott, how about sharing your experience with Quantum Fireball? I'd really love to know what specific drive you've had problems with and what OS and hardware configuration the drives have failed under. I've been using my Quantum TM3200 (I guess it's also called Fireball) 3.2GB for over a month now, no problems so far. But TjL's comments make me wonder whether I've been sitting on a time bomb all along. I'd also appreciate comments from all Fireball owners on the longevity of the Quantums. Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@anet-dfw.com> | <liuyi@usa.net> Dallas, TX
From: Darryl Anton <daisho@earthlink.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing a CD-R On a Next Cube Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 23:41:14 -0500 Organization: Earthlink Network, Inc. Message-ID: <32E2F76A.1F85@earthlink.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to dump my OD in my cube and replace it with a CD-R unit has anyone had any experience with it or any recomendations
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Millenium- $209 w/2 megs WRAM Date: 20 Jan 1997 02:10:19 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5bv99b$qj2$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <32DFC865.3F90@pcdiscounters.com> Dave McGill <dave@pcdiscounters.com> writes: >PC Discounters . . . Your DISCOUNT Computer Source!! >Specializing in upgrades for desktop computers. >SPECIALS: >Matrox Millenium w/2 meg WRAM - $209 Hmm, the Micro Center store here in Chicago has this same price, but for the 4M WRAM version, not 2M. With the driver from NeXTanswers, it works well. When a retail store beats out a mail order shop, the mail order shop is likely overcharging for other items as well... or at least posting to the wrong newsgroup. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: "Andrew Kim" <akim@cogsoft.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: Problem with SCSI II on my NeXTstation Color. Date: 23 Jan 97 23:00:12 +0000 Organization: Cogent Software Message-ID: <AF0D9E01-327F8@207.13.170.16> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit nntp://news.cogent.net/comp.sys.next.misc I have Olympus Sys.230 and I used with my powerbook for sometime. I also have Olympus Deltis 230, which is older model for Sys.230 and it is connected to NeXTstation and I have no problem with it. Couple days ago I connected SYS.230 to NeXTstation and system did lock it self. I have no idea and why, so I unplug it and problem goes away. Only difference of Sys.230 and Deltis 230 is connection. Sys.230 uses 25-pin SCSI, but internally it is SCSI-2 device. Deltis 230 otherhand, it is SCSI-1&2 with DB-50 connection. Both device have self termination with SCSI diagnostic LED lights at back. Yes, I forgot to mention. When I plug Sys.230 to NeXTstation SCSI diagnostic LED goes OFF which means there is problem. But, when I plug Deltis 230; LED goes ON and no problem at all. Why don't I leave Deltis 230 to NeXTstation and work with it? Here is another problem, some times Deltis can not mount any MO disk at all. It does that time to time, so I decide to use sys.230 instead. But, it didn't turn out that way as I wanted. Any suggestion?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Backing up Hard drive Message-ID: <E49tu6.HHD@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:51:42 GMT In article <32DF1A73.45D7@gl.umbc.edu> Gregory Pacholczyk <gpacho1@gl.umbc.edu> writes: > I have an 040 Cube with a really loud 660 mb hard drive, i also have a 1 > gig scsi drive that i want to put in its place. how can i format the 1 > gig drive and move everything over to it. Formatting isn't necessary, only getting a new filesystem established. And that works fully automatic if the drive gets attached the first time during the boot phase. Or you can take BuildDisk.app as your tool of choice. And my favorite method of copying filesystem is a pair of pipe connected gnutar instances run as 'root'. -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Suggestions for PPP for NeXT LAN? Message-ID: <E4MpLK.Bzp@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <E4DIK9.My@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:48:56 GMT In article <E4DIK9.My@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> smb3u@kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker) writes: > Hi all- > > I have a small LAN at home where I do consulting (2 cubes, 1 Intel > all running 3.3) and I'd like to connect to the internet through > the University. They've given me the go-ahead with a small block > of fixed IPs to set up a PPP link from my LAN. I'm wondering what > sort of suggestions people have for the easiest and most effect > way to go about this. > > I'd like to have a minimum maintenence solution if possible. One > possible solution may be a separate box sitting on the LAN doing > the routing and taking care of the POTS line. Another possibility > may be a software solution sitting in one of the NeXT boxes. > > Does anyone have suggestions? Recommendations? Warnings? Beer? > > Steve > --- > Steven M. Boker 219-631-4941 (voice) > sboker@nd.edu 219-631-8883 (fax) > http://www.nd.edu/~sboker/ 219-257-2956 (home) > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 > > -- > Steven M. Boker (219) 631-4941 (office) (219) 631-8883 (fax) > boker@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/ > Dept. of Psychology, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556 If ISDN is an option, get an ISDN connection and buy an Ascend Pipeline 25. It has an a/b adapter, so you can use your old POTS telephone hardware. It supports subnet masks; you will need that. Personally, I found it difficult to configure. Its manual is one of the worst I have ever seen. But once you have it running, it is a great box. An alternative may be buying an old 386 PC and install something like IP-route. You should inspect all equipment that makes your router initiate an outbound call. Try to find out why your router thinks it has to make this call. If you have to pay per call, using the nameserver of the university can be very expensive. If you buy a dedicated box, buy a box that has lights showing you that it is making a call. You can configure a router in 15 minutes, but finding out why it is making all those calls can take a lot of time. You will be rewarded for this on the next bill of your telephone company. Just my $0.02 opinion hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: hugob@tamtam.xs4all (Hugo Burm) Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Message-ID: <E4n3qo.D7J@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Sender: hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl (Hugo Burm) Organization: datagram References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 23:54:24 GMT In article <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> ashrafi@stsfac.mit.edu (Babak Razzaghe Ashrafi) writes: > How do I tell if a monitor is a FIMI monitor or a Trinitron. Is it by > manufacturor? > > Babak Ashrafi > ashrafi@mit.edu 1) Fimi is not made by Hitachi. Hitachi did the 21" monitor not the 17". 2) About recognizing Trinitron vs. Fimi. - Trinitron is made by Sony. There should be some Sony marks on the back. - Trinitron screens are cylindrical. Fimi screens are spherical. - Trinitron screens have a horizontal line at about 1/3 or 2/3 of the height of the screen. - Trinitron screens are deeper than Fimi screens (their tube is longer). They are also heavier. - Trinitron screens are more expensive than Fimi screens. - If all rules above fail, use your own eyes and judge whether the screen you are looking at meets your requirements. If it does, it is not that important whether you are looking at a Fimi or Trinitron tube. hugob@tamtam.xs4all.nl
From: "Karl N. Matthias" <matthias.3@osu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help: How to use NeXT monitor with PC Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:49:36 -0500 Organization: The Ohio State University Message-ID: <32EBB550.FE3@osu.edu> References: <5c8nfc$3frm@news.doit.wisc.edu> <32E952B2.2B44@photonweb.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Konjkav wrote: > > Michael Giddings wrote: > > > > I am looking for information on how to adapt a NeXT MegaPixel color display > > to use on PC hardware. I saw mention once of an adapter that will do this > > but can find zero info on it. > > > > I would greatly appreciate information on how to do this. > > > > -- > > Michael Giddings > > giddings@chem.wisc.edu > > giddings@barbarian.com > > (608)258-1699 or (608) 692-2851 > > http://www.barbarian.com > > Check out http://www.photonweb.com/next/ for the video card & > the cable that are designed to run your monitor on a PC > > Ben I do not suggest that anyone does business with these guys. They do not honor their return policy very well, tech support only rarely answers the phone, they do not return phone calls (especially if it is still within the 30 days guaranteed by the return policy), they do not know the details of the monitors they claim to support, and on top of all that, they have the rudest support staff I have ever dealt with. If anyone wants more information about them, please e-mail me, since I don't wish to start a flame-ware. Thanks Karl
From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (Gary Finley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Run fsck on second drive Date: 27 Jan 1997 17:04:24 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Message-ID: <5cin6o$k68@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <32E23E92.5B80@sprintmail.com> In-Reply-To: <32E23E92.5B80@sprintmail.com> On 01/19/97, "Raymond L. Ehrlich" wrote: >I would like to install the faulty 405 mbyte drive which has NeXtStep >2.1 into a second NeXT Station which has a 105mbyte drive and running >NeXTStep 3.3 which loads fine. I would like to install the faulty >drive into a working system to be able to load and run fsck on the >faulty drive from the properly working hard drive. You'll need to change the SCSI ID jumper on the 2nd disk. Usually internal disks are set to ID 1 (sometimes 0), and you'll want the 2nd drive set to 2 or higher, so that the machine will still boot from the good disk. Then you should be able to fsck the 2nd disk with just "fsck /dev/rsd1a". However, I'm not positive that the different NS versions (3.3 on your boot disk, 2.1 on the one you want to fix) won't cause trouble here. I've never tried to do this accross NS versions. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. gfin@psych.ualberta.ca (NeXTmail welcome) http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/
From: foster@aix2.uottawa.ca (Peter Foster) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Date: 26 Jan 1997 18:57:10 GMT Organization: University of Ottawa Message-ID: <5cg9e6$j5k@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> References: <5ce9sv$e282@crash.videotron.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm using a logitech mouse on my nextslab now. I got it from computerActive, at http://www.computeractive.on.ca/cAi/index.html They made some adaptors to go between the mouse and the socket on the keyboard. Telephone 613-225-4824. Peter
From: jimmiequan@aol.com (JimmieQuan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 27 Jan 1997 09:51:55 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970127095101.EAA22696@ladder01.news.aol.com> References: <E4n3qo.D7J@tamtam.xs4all.nl> Here's the history of all the NeXT monitors. The Original(1st) B&W monitors were made by Sony and used a Toshiba 12.6vac CRT (no anti-glare coating) on an aluminum stand, It was very heavy. The 2nd version, a Toshiba 6.3vac CRT (with anti-glare coating) was use and it came on a magnesium stand while a microphone was added to the front of the bezel. The final(3rd) version was made by Hitachi on a plastic stand and it was ADB. The 1st version of the 17" color monitor was made by Femi (Phillips) while the last version was made by Sony with has ADB. The 21" color monitor only came in one model and was made by Hitachi with a Toshiba CRT. The best way to tell the B&W moinitors apart is by their stand because the early monitors probably has had their CRT's replace with a newer one by now. Hope this helps. Jquan :-)
From: mpaque@wco.com (Mike Paquette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:10:47 -0800 Organization: Electronics Service Unit No. 16 Sender: mpaque@mpaque Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ciujn$sn@mpaque.mpaque> References: <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> In article <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > And if someone tries > to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen > politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about > 60ms or so, apparently). And of course, bear in mind that (for some reason :-)) it was never a shipping product. Really carefully crafted code using the NXLiveVideoView can grab maybe 4-5 frames per second. For digitizing video, I've found that the best method (without resorting to high end racks of Avid gear) is to get a really clean transfer to a laserdisc, and then digitize still frames from a good disc player's output. This lets you integrate the video frames over time and strip out a good portion of video noise, and use really high quality non-realtime filters to maximize quality. Good transfers will cost maybe 300-400 dollars for a single side CAV disk. -- I don't speak for my employer, whoevere it is, and they don't speak for me. mpaque@next.com Official business only NeXT Mail OK mpaque@wco.com Non-business or personal mail NeXT mail OK
From: ancar@mindspring.com (Andrea Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Requiremants for NextStem on a Pentium Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:36:00 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Message-ID: <5cgilj$upt@camel5.mindspring.com> Hello there. I am contemplating loading nextstep on a pentium laptop and I'd like to know what the system requirements are. n addition, what is the difference between this OS for it's native platform and the Pentiem platform?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Is there extra hardware for Dimension? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4Mwyv.KGI@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:28:06 GMT References: <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5cd3o0$cul@news.csie.nctu.edu.tw>, Jiunn-jye Huang <jjhuang@cm.nctu.edu.tw> wrote: >Hello,all, > I know the performance of cube is poor, I want to ask if there is any extra >hardware for Dimension which we can grab NTSC signal at the rate of >30 fps? And the quality is 640x480x24bit. Or maybe the hardware can do >realtime compression to NeXTTime or what else. No, there's nothing that will do this. Sad, but true. And if someone tries to talk to you about NeXT's JPEG compression daughterboard, listen politely, but remember that it doesn't work (well, it works for about 60ms or so, apparently). -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: leo@BLaCKSMITH.com (Leo Turetsky) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 27 Jan 1997 21:43:39 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5cj7ib$rgp@BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5ceu9b$esh@pesto.cs.utexas.edu> > I've been using my Quantum TM3200 (I guess it's also called Fireball) > 3.2GB for over a month now, no problems so far. But TjL's comments > make me wonder whether I've been sitting on a time bomb all along. > I'd also appreciate comments from all Fireball owners on the longevity > of the Quantums. Just found this in 'comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc': "Its a news box and has the worst possible disks (Quantum Fireball) so I am forced to run fsck on it sometimes." We no longer use them here at BLaCKSMITH because we couldn't prevent them from inevitably failing. Sorry to put a downer on your day :-( leo. +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Leo Turetsky | BLaCKSMITH, Inc. (NeXT/MIME) | | leo@blacksmith.com | OPENSTEP Systems Administrator | +---------------------+---------------------------------+ | Nah-ne kah-sah tahng-tah? <esp> Leo, your mom called. | +-------------------------------------------------------+
From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI >2Mb disks in NeXTstation (NS3.2) Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:05:28 GMT Organization: The University of California at San Diego Message-ID: <5cj8r8$j7l@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Cc: GWILLEM@alpha.ntu.ac.sg In <5cc23e$51e@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> Van Schaik Willem Anthon Johan wrote: > > I know about the 2 MB limit for harddisks in a NeXT (black in my > case). But if I buy a 3-4 MB disk and create only a < 2 MB partition, > would that then work? And what about a disk with two partitions of > let's say 2 MB? The requirement is that each partition be not more than 2 GB. I think that's what you meant to say. NS3.3 will create two partitions to make up the full disk size for a disk between 2 and 4 GB. NS3.2 and older will not, and you will have to write (or acquire from someone else) an appropriate /etc/disktab entry. Or you might decide that you don't like NS 3.3's choice of partition sizes. > PS Does anybody use the Quantum Fireball disks with black hardware. Does > it work out of the box, or does it need a disktab entry. I have seen the 1.0GB Fireball disk used on black hardware without any special disktab entry. Ask me again in a couple of days and I will tell you about the 3.2GB Fireball. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Pentium or PentiumPro for OS 4.1 Date: 27 Jan 1997 03:16:29 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5ch6md$bhm@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5c8q1l$ve2@portal.gmu.edu> Cc: rraman@site.gmu.edu In <5c8q1l$ve2@portal.gmu.edu> Ravishankar Ramanathan (CSI) wrote: > As the subject says, what is a good platform for running OPENSTEP 4.1 User/ Dev? My resources > will allow me to purchase one of the following: > > PentiumPro 150 MHz with SCSI HDD > > Pentium 166MHz with SCSI subsystem > > NeXT Turbo Color > > I plan to develop mathematical programs/ run simulations and do some work on WebObjects. > Thanks in advance. > > By all means get the Pentium Pro. One benchmark I used showed it ran memory-intensive programs (i.e. all NeXT Apps) about 2 times the speed of the same MHz Pentium. You should be able to get a NeXT Turbo Color (from James Moosman)for $600 + 2 GB HD $370 = $970. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701261625.LAA03849@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: b839bdc513ee8d6eb0b9518dcefd4b03 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 11:25:51 -0500 Subject: Re: [Q] SyJet 1.5GB drive Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: b839bdc513ee8d6eb0b9518dcefd4b03 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: younghoon KIL <ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Original Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:54:38 +0900 > I considering to buy a SyJet 1.5GB drive for file backup on the > NEXTSTEP. > How about the disk safety and speed? > I heard rumors that Syquest's removable disk will very weak in any > bit impacts or disk safety is very low than iomega's products. I have heard people say that the EZ135 carts are more easily damaged than Zip carts. I have had no problems with mine, but then again they go right from the drive to the case. The disk speed on the SyJet is more likely as fast if not faster than you current HD. From what I've heard, it is supposed to be fully usable as your primary drive. It will likely be what I get when I get the $$ for a new drive So while I don't have any direct knowledge of SyJet, I have not heard anything which would persuade me from buying one. TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@peak.org> Message-ID: <199701171337.FAA04212@PEAK.ORG> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 08:37:04 -0500 Subject: Re: EZ Drive with NeXTstation Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 6b14f81085f0c113afc690184b06b082 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Responding To: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Original Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:55:05 GMT > well, how about a old syquest 44? would it work? if it is a SCSI connector, it should if not, there's a trade-in offer at SyQuest's homepage where they'll give you $100 towards an EZFlyer if you turn in any (even non-SyQuest) drive (doesn't even have to work) TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) / http://www.next.peak.org/~luomat Unix regular expression: (.*[^-a-zA-Z0-9_.])?) Windows regular expression: "Damn.... it crashed again" [If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!]
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:02 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22>, "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? I agree on the mouse, especially if you tend towards RSI. However the keyboard having a CMD bar below the space bar is really neat ( bar is actually part of the edge of keyboard. Much more natural for me to use my thumb to depress the CMD bar on one hand and then use a finger on the other hand to hit the appropriate key. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: andrew@hydra.cfm.brown.edu (Andrew Jones) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep on IBM-Aptiva-Stelth Date: 27 Jan 1997 20:42:44 GMT Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics Distribution: world Message-ID: <5cj404$ff8@cocoa.brown.edu> Has anyone tried to install NeXTstep on the cool-looking IBM Aptiva-Stelth? I plan to buy one if installation is strait forward. Please e-mail me and post as I don't always XRN (read news). Thanks, Andrew
From: joel@fefcful.org (Joel Lingenfelter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: PRESS RELEASE: Apple Support of NeXT Products Date: 22 Jan 1997 23:01:41 GMT Organization: First Evangelical Free Church Message-ID: <joel-2201971459150001@mfs-annex1-p32.dsphere.net> References: <199701221323.IAA03478@dhp.com> >> Cross Platform Support. Apple will maintain NeXT's commitment to >> cross-platform and cross-processor support, and will continue to develop, >> sell, and support products currently available, including those for Windows >> NT, Solaris, HP-UX, and NEXTSTEP. In addition, we plan to add support with >So, what's the story for black (motorola) hardware? Nextstep might refer to Openstep/Mach, which runs on Motorola. It's a no brainer to keep the support in, as evidenced by the stated non-support of HP nextstep, and then the fact that according to some on the newsgroups it actually works anyway. Essentially, it looks like Next's cross platform software is written so well that it really is a no-brainer to provide support for multiple platforms. Speculation... Joel | Joel Lingenfelter -=+=- | Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be | transformed by the renewing of your mind. - Romans 12:2a
From: dmwood@moran.Mines.EDU (WOOD DAVID M) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Logitech mice on NeXT keyboards Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:08:41 GMT Organization: Colorado School of Mines Message-ID: <5cjchp$qhq@magma.Mines.EDU> See http://www.computeractive.on.ca/cAi/next/tails.html -- David M. Wood Department of Physics, Colorado School of Mines, Golden, CO 80401 Phone: (303) 273-3853; Fax: (303) 273-3840 e-mail: dmwood@physics.Mines.EDU ; NeXTMail welcome
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 08:17:02 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5ckclu$pn$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) wrote: > Drivers: include Serial Port 3.33, PCI Bus 3.30, ISA/EISA Bus 3.31, > Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge 3.31. Hi, the TTY port server driver is not on your list. Maybe this is the problem? This driver is needed to make /dev/tty* work, when you use version 3.33 of the ISASerialDriver. Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: Geoff Spradley <gfs@ucsd.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SoundKit with OS/M-I 4.1? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:43:22 -0800 Organization: Academic Computing, UCSD Message-ID: <32ED4BAA.3BEC@ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit CC: gfs@ucsd.edu I never got the NS/Intel 3.2 SoundKit drivers for a ProAudio Spectrum (16 Basic) soundcard to work well with my Micron P5-90 (Neptune PCI/ISA) system. Despite an exhaustive trial of DMA/IRQ settings, short segments of soundfiles always looped during playback. I think I remember reading that NS 3.3 improved matters. I'd appreciate testimonials from anyone who's gotten decent SoundKit results with OS/Mach-Intel 4.1, especially with a similar soundcard and mainboard. Thanks, --Geoff =================================================================== Geoff Spradley gfs@ucsd.edu Academic Computing Services (619) 822-0098 V University of California, San Diego (619) 534-7018 F ===================================================================
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 02:10:01 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> Scenario: NEXTSTEP 3.3p1 on Intel installed on a drive, which is too small to fit developer. Disk is dumped and restored to a larger disk. Situation: kermit will not speak to either /dev/tty*a or /dev/tty*b. Details: The major and minor numbers on the serial port devices aren't exactly the same as they are on NEXTSTEP 3.3p1 on black. I removed the tty*b devices and ran "MAKEDEV STD" on them and rebooted. The error message changed from a "not a terminal device" error to a "can't open connection" error. Prior to this change, attempts to access tty*a devices resulted in a long pause before the error, while attempts to access tty*b devices returned error conditions immediately. More details: ASUS P/I-P55T2P4 v3.0, AHA2940U, Matrox Millenium 4M, standard serial and parallel ports, Intel EtherExpress Pro/10. Drivers: include Serial Port 3.33, PCI Bus 3.30, ISA/EISA Bus 3.31, Intel 824X0 PCI Host Bridge 3.31. Questions: How do I get my serial ports to work? Did something go wrong during dump/restore? How can this be avoided in future? Comment: Sometimes I hate computers. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: schwebby@aol.com (Schwebby) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: 28 Jan 1997 03:05:30 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? I also have a Global Village TP Platinum 33.6 Mac modem. Can I attach this to the A serial port and use it ? Do I need some driver software here as well. Are there any WWW browsers like Mosaic, Netscape, etc available for NeXT ? Where ?...Thanks...Schwebby
From: "Jason M. Smith" <jsmith@es.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:08:06 -0700 Organization: Evans & Sutherland Message-ID: <32ED1936.446B9B3D@es.com> References: <01bc0b05$87f76250$3374e3a5@delphi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Eric Brown <ebrown@pointcast.com> Eric Brown wrote: > > My NeXT printer sucks in the paper about 2 inches and then tells me it's > got a paper jam. If I'm lucky and nudge the paper in the right way, I won't > get the paper jam. But I'm not lucky very often and I couldn't imagine > doing this for every page. > > This isn't the problem talked about in the hardware faq. My printer only > seems off by a millimeter or so but I'm really stuck. Has anybody had > similar experiences? > > Thanks, > Eric YES! And, I found a solution... although it isn't recommended for the faint of heart. :) The problem with mine was that the rubber on the feed roller had become slick and cracked with age. You need to take your printer apart down to it's bare bones to get at this piece, unfortunately. Once you manage to get the &*#(@& thing out, you need to peel off the rubber and turn it inside out... the inside is nice and fresh. Reassemble the printer and voila. It works great. (You can even run the printer when it's gutted - a couple of switches need to be manually held down, but you can do it.) If anyone can forward you a technical manual for instructions on taking the printer apart and putting it back together again, I'm sure you'll have an easier time of it than I did. It wasn't *difficult*, just time consuming. One nice thing - almost all the screws are identical... you don't have to keep track of which goes where, except for a select few. I will say this - the NeXT printer is built like a tank. :) BTW, previous to this drastic step, I tried scoring the rubber to rough it up, adding bits of masking tape to create a tread, *wood glue*... this did the trick though. Good luck! -- Jason M. Smith Software Engineer 1215 S. McClelland St. 600 Komas Dr. Display Group Salt Lake, UT 84105 Salt Lake City, UT 84158 Evans & Sutherland (801) 486-2378 (H) (801) 588-7552 (W)
From: "Richard P. Muller" <rmuller@rcf.usc.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS/Intel questions Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:09:15 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California Sender: rmuller@chem2.usc.edu Message-ID: <32EE169B.446B@rcf.usc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm thinking of buying a Pentium Pro to run Openstep. I want to use one at work as a workstation/Xterminal, and another one at home for PPP stuff. + Is there a good ethernet board that will work with this? + What modems will and won't work? + Has Openstep been optimized for Pentium Pro? Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Rick -- Richard P. Muller, Ph.D. rmuller@invitro.usc.edu Department of Chemistry, SGM 418 http://www-rcf.usc.edu/~rmuller University of Southern California Office 213-740-7671 Los Angeles, CA 90089-1062 FAX 213-740-2701
From: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEXTSTEP/Openstep on a NEC Versa 4050C Date: 27 Jan 1997 23:57:48 GMT Organization: The University of British Columbia Message-ID: <5cjfds$f2e$1@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Is NEXTSTEP/Openstep compatible with the NEC Versa 4050C system? Thanks for any assistance that can be offered. ... John -- John Nicol School of Audiology and Speech Sciences University of British Columbia Electronic mail: jsn@audiospeech.ubc.ca (NeXTmail welcome)
From: sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 28 Jan 1997 07:27:43 GMT Organization: exodus communications, inc. Message-ID: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) wrote: >In article <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22>, "Mitchell Allen" ><mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >>"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >>sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >>keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. Sean.
From: font@MCS.COM (Font) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Unable to use serial ports (NS3.3p1 Intel) Date: 28 Jan 1997 02:31:45 -0600 Organization: MCSNet Services Message-ID: <5ckdhh$k58$1@Venus.mcs.net> References: <5ckc8p$jtl$1@Venus.mcs.net> font@MCS.COM (Font) writes: >Situation: kermit will not speak to either /dev/tty*a or /dev/tty*b. A perusal of the NeXTanswers driver overview web pages reveals what I should have known: TTY Port Server 3.33 is also required as a driver to get this to work. Hopefully this will fix my addled brains. -- font@mcs.net Wishes are like dishes.
From: mdporter@earthlink.net (Michael D. Porter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:45:18 -0800 Organization: MDP Computer Consulting Message-ID: <mdporter-ya02408000R2801970045180001@news.earthlink.net> References: <jcr.853493403@idiom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <jcr.853493403@idiom.com>, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB > slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. > > I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. > > Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery > dying? Try a different keyboard if you haven't done so already. Perhaps there is something wrong with the keyboard cable or the keyboard itself. -- Michael D. Porter MDP Computer Consulting mdporter@earthlink.net
From: Bebe Nicolae Bondoc <nick@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: swapfile/harddrive qwestion Date: 18 Jan 1997 14:54:25 -0500 Organization: McGill University Computing Centre Message-ID: <m2lo9qn4i6.fsf@rebus.physics.mcgill.ca> Hello, from previous experience with SUNs, having swap partitions on multiple drives results in a system that is much faster than the same one with just one consolidated swap partion. I was wondering if this is the case for NeXT Black? If so tell me your stories on set-up, drawbacks and advantages you experienced. thank you nick -- B. N. Bondoc pager: 514 - 930 - 1385 ===================================================== office addr: Ernest Rutherford Physics Building Physics Department, McGill University 3600 University Street, Room 223 Montreal, PQ, Canada, H3A 2T8 phone: 514 - 398 - 5938 fax: 514 - 398 - 7022 =====================================================
From: Eric P Baenen <ebaenen@mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: CD Recorders on Black hardware? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:33:02 -0500 Organization: WL/AACI (https://www.mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil/) Message-ID: <32EE627E.6708@mbvlab.wpafb.af.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone had any experience using a CDROM writer (external SCSI) on black hardware? What brand and model? Did you need to do anything special to get it to work? Any special software or drivers required? Know of any other brands/models that work? Thanks, Eric ebaenen@dnaco.net
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:09:52 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net>, sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu wrote: >tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) wrote: >>In article <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22>, "Mitchell Allen" >><mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >> >>>"Cool" is a real matter of opinion. Personally, I think that weird mouse >>>sucks. The Keyboard is OK. Is ther anyway to connect a regular NeXT >>>keyboard and mouse to an ADB system? >> > >Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have >used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the >ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the >knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my NeXTstation (ADB). -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: tj@oro.net (Thomas Ferreira) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: 29 Jan 1997 01:16:48 GMT Organization: "oronet, Penn Valley, CA" Message-ID: <tj-2801971719190001@i441.oro.net> I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that NeXT made. Any out there... Tom
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nick Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATI Rage under OpenStep 4.1 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 01:36:52 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <32efa950.77463366@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anyone else has tried running NeXTSTEP or OpenStep with a ATI 3D Expression. Thanks a lot. Nick Sharpe
From: hess@cs.indiana.edu (Caleb Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Battery's fine, Color Turbo still won't power up. Date: 28 Jan 1997 09:07:48 -0500 Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University Distribution: na Message-ID: <5cl17l$8gv@sawshark.cs.indiana.edu> References: <jcr.853493403@idiom.com> <mdporter-ya02408000R2801970045180001@news.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-User: hess >In article <jcr.853493403@idiom.com>, jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) wrote: > >> Subject pretty much covers it. I've just bought a Color Turbo ADB >> slab, and It won't throw the relay when I hit the power key on the Keyboard. >> >> I've tried swapping the battery, and the power supply, to no avail. >> >> Anyone know if there's some other common failure mode besides the battery >> dying? The really embarrassing solution is to discover that you've reversed the video cable ;-) (The "Y" connector has to go on the slab, with one tail to the sound box and one tail to the monitor.)
From: doyle@aps.org (Mark Doyle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: biff and 10BaseT vs. thin net on black hardware Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:55:10 GMT Organization: American Physical Society Message-ID: <5cjboe$m40@sun20.ccd.bnl.gov> Hi, A friend of mine encountered the following peculiar problem: After a network upgrade from a thin net (coax) to 10BaseT network, doing 'biff y' in a Terminal.app window causes two sets of alerts to appear each time mail is received. This seems only to be related to which network connector the machine is using. Here is an excerpt from his description of the problem: >sure enough, i pulled the 10baseT out and fed through a 10baseT to >thinwire adapter plugged into usual thinwire port, and a single biff >alert. network is the same, only difference is which network port it >thinks it's using (and if i pull network connection entirely then last >used remains default, hence double biff even after unplugging 10baseT). > >can cycle back and forth (without rebooting, or with rebooting, doesn't >matter), totally reproducible (presumably on all the black slabs): double >biff alert with 10baseT, single with thinwire... He is running NeXTSTEP 3.3 (unpatched I believe) on a 25 MHz mono NeXTstation. netstat and ifconfig show no difference when switching between behaviors. So, has anyone seen anything like this before, or know what may be causing the problem? Cheers, Mark doyle@aps.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep on Versa 6000 (Does it work) References: <32EAAF3C.24A8@earthlink.net> From: shill@iphysiol.unil.ch (Sean Hill) Message-ID: <32ee1e03.0@cisun2000.unil.ch> Date: 28 Jan 97 15:40:51 GMT Darryl Anton <daisho@earthlink.net> wrote: > anyone ever try nextstep on a Versa 6000 I have OPENSTEP 4.0 running on a Versa 6030. It works. With a few exceptions. I had to first install OPENSTEP on the disk from another machine. The only problem I've had is that the PCMCIA driver doesn't work so great. Some people have said it crashes immediately and hangs the machine. However I have been able to use (if that's the word for it) a Xircom IIps ethernet card with OPENSTEP 4.0. However the performance was very poor. I would be so happy if NeXT released a newer PCIC driver which supported the newer chips. Other than that it's fantastic to have OPENSTEP at 1024x768 (see bifrost workstations for the great driver) on a portable. -sean n and a Cube, but I'd rather not carry the 21" one around without knowing it's going to work. :-) -- // Christian Neuss "static typing? how quaint.." // http://www.informatik.th-darmstadt.de/~neuss/ // fax: (+49) 6151 16 5472
From: me@nextbox.enteract.com (Kevin Coffee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Another SCSI drive question Date: 29 Jan 1997 02:46:28 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Message-ID: <5cmdm4$475@eve.enteract.com> FWIW, I've been using a Quantum 1.2GB Fireball for three years. Maybe I'm just blissfully ignorant of the problems, though. In any event, I'm looking at 2 GB drives (to use inside my station) and wonder if anyone has had experience with any of the following: Micropolis 4421 (2.1 GB) Quantum Tempest (2.1 GB) Quantum Tempest (3.2 GB) thanks. -Kevin -- Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl (Drs G. C. Th. Wierda) Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Message-ID: <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Sender: news@AWT.NL Organisation: AWT Organization: Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <AF0EA9DD-224769@207.147.62.22> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:35:44 GMT Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> wrote: >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of >>a trinitron. BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? -- Gerben Wierda, Stafmedewerker Adviesraad voor het Wetenschaps- en Technologiebeleid. Staff member Advisory Council for Science and Technology Policy Javastraat 42, 2585 AP, 's-Gravenhage, The Hague, The Netherlands Tel (+31) 70 3639922 Fax (+31) 70 3608992 http://www.AWT.nl/ "One foolish wise man can state more than a thousand wise fools can question." "Doubters need to understand believes. Believers need not understand doubt."
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:51:59 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970127231432.8469A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Schwebby <schwebby@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> On 28 Jan 1997, Schwebby wrote: > I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple > CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for > these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? Both of these should "just work". I'm using a CD300e on my 'station. It's true "plug'n'play". (Eat that, Microsoft! :)) > I also have a Global Village TP Platinum 33.6 Mac modem. Can I attach > this to the A serial port and use it ? Do I need some driver software > here as well. You'll need to buy or make a proper serial cable for it. Mac serial cables probably won't work properly. Look at the man page for zs for information on building a cable. Or simply buy one from Deep Space Technologies (www.deepspacetech.com) for $25. > Are there any WWW browsers like Mosaic, Netscape, etc available for > NeXT? Where? Netscape is not available for NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP. Mosaic is available if you use a commercial (like Cub'X) or freeware (like MouseX) X server on your NeXT. However, there's no need to go through the hassle of configuring X on your NeXT when OmniWeb and Netsurfer are available. Both are very capable, Netscape-2-ish browsers, supporting tables and frames, etc. Netsurfer is faster and supports animated GIFs, but is not free (individual licenses are $49). OmniWeb is more Netscape-compatible, and is free for individual users. Hope this helps. -Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Antigone Press gateway, San Francisco Return-Path: <luomat@nerc.com> Message-ID: <199701281840.NAA05049@nerc.com> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) In-Reply-To: 6fcc5fd52a4fa0d3fef4bb1f2e0fd0a4 - From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@nerc.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 13:40:51 -0500 Subject: Re: NeXTPrinter paper jam problem Cc: comp-sys-next-hardware@antigone.com References: 6fcc5fd52a4fa0d3fef4bb1f2e0fd0a4 - Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary The instructions for taking the printer apart are at: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/printerinfo.html or send me (luomat@peak.org) a message with the SUBJECT send-ascii printer-misc or send-mime printer-misc TjL -- Tj Luoma (luomat@peak.org) If you have a web page about NeXTStep|OpenStep, email me the URL!
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:37:24 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Jan29093724@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> Hello, I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they did I don't know what they mean. I assume that A2 A1 and A0 are SCSI ID jumpers but what about TE? Anyway, how should I set the jumpers so that I can use this drive as an internal boot drive on my NeXTstation? BTW, If I use the factory default I get the message "Can't find any CD-ROM's" when trying to install NEXTSTEP. I assume that this is a termination or SCSI ID conflict problem. Any hints are greatly appreciated. David Shaffer --- -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu
From: szhwit@svusnet.ubs.ch (Christoph Widmer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IBM 365 notebook Date: 29 Jan 1997 14:18:14 GMT Organization: Union Bank of Switzerland Message-ID: <5cnm76-87f@svusenet.ubs.ch> Hi NeXT's compatibiliy guide lists under compatible notebooks the IBM 365. Does anybody has expirience with this notebook running NeXTStep 3.3? Thanks Christoph Christoph.z.h.w.i.t.Widmer@ubs.ch cwidmer@mail.spiderweb.ch
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: 28 Jan 1997 22:08:38 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> In-Reply-To: <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> >At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >NeXTstation (ADB). I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for several months. The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped is amazing. Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or so for one. Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. :-) -- Scott Anguish DBS Online - http://www.dbs-online.com/DBS sanguish@digifix.com Stepwise OpenStep WWW - http://www.stepwise.com
From: "Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 29 Jan 97 12:14:07 -0500 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <AF14EF94-9FDA9@207.147.51.243> References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Wed, Jan 29, 1997 9:45 AM, amando@gcomm.com <mailto:amando@gcomm.com> wrote: > Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! > Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. > The > nextstation is ADB. Heavy? I thought it was flimsy and uncomfortable. Anyway, you can connect any ADB mouse (Apple or otherwise) to an ADB NeXT. The same goes for keyboards. --------------------------------------------------------- Cyberdog ---A Product of Apple Computer, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:17:21 -0800 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.95.970129071450.5523G-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Thomas Ferreira <tj@oro.net> In-Reply-To: 21340b29fcf0f60c6f7a97a4e687a658 - > I am searching for some sites that cover all the hardware available that > NeXT made. Any out there... what sorts of things are you looking for? We can probably come up with a list here (others can add/correct): 030 cube 040 cube 040 slab 040 color slab 040 turbo slab 040 turbo color slab NeXT Dimension NeXT ADB They also had a CD drive. TjL
From: amando@gcomm.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mac Mouse Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:45:03 +0200 Organization: CompuServe Incorporated Message-ID: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. The nextstation is ADB. TIA Amando Blasco
From: yblock@next.mc.maricopa.edu (York Block) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: IBM Ultrastar where can I get it??? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:32:30 -0700 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Message-ID: <yblock-2801971732310001@79.phoenix-001.az.dial-access.att.net> Hi, I need some advise. I am trying to buy the IBM Ultrastar ES 2.1GB FSCSI2 (not the wide version) harddisk. I tried to get it from NECX but they don't have it rigth now. Does anyone know whereelse I can buy it?. Thank you York
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 16:11:41 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5cnsrt$c0i$1@news.crystalball.com> References: <SHAFFER.97Jan29093724@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) wrote: > ... > I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is > complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the > jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match > the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they > did I don't know what they mean. I assume that A2 A1 and A0 are SCSI > ID jumpers but what about TE? Anyway, how should I set the jumpers so > that I can use this drive as an internal boot drive on my NeXTstation? The jumpers you're looking for (A2,A1,A0,TE) are on the soft underbelley of the drive---where all the chips and stuff are, not on the front, where PK,CS,DS,SP are. The Quantum TM3200 comes with 3 jumpers, and by default it's on A0, A1, and TE. So it's set to SCSI id 3 with Termination Enabled. Quantum has the jumper settings and specs of this drive on its webpage, take a look at: http://www.quantum.com/support/scsidisk/fb3confs.htm It should answer your questions about jumper settings. I usually set my boot disk to SCSI id 1, and CDROM drive to 0 when I want to boot from the CD. You internal drive (3.2GB Fireball) needs to be terminated if it's the only internal SCSI device. > BTW, If I use the factory default I get the message "Can't find any > CD-ROM's" when trying to install NEXTSTEP. I assume that this is a > termination or SCSI ID conflict problem. Any hints are greatly > appreciated. Did you terminate the external CDROM drive? It seems a ID conflict problem to me. liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> 9h, Inc. Dallas, TX
From: Doug Phelps <doug@pagesz.net> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:56:43 -0500 Organization: www.pagesz.net/~doug Message-ID: <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jack <jgroll@xpoint.at> Jack wrote: > > folks, > need some help, please! > I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom > I want to upgrade, so should I > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > more Ram ? > better graphics-card ? > better CD-Rom ? Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. If it were me, I would leave the CD Rom drive alone, it should serve you well and you will see little if any performance gain from upgrading. Graphics Card!!!!! YES, this can really improve your perfomance. Several good options out there. If you are doing lots of 3D games then you may want to look at one of the 3Dfx cards or the Verite card if you want to save some cash. The P60 does need to go soon. Again I would look at the motherboard first. You can get a good board from $130 to $180 US dollars in US. Don't know your pricing but this should give you an idea of what you are looking at. I would also consider the Cyrix CPU's. Very good value and great performance. Although if you play Quake alot you may want to stick with Intel. > > or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? The 150 is another good value. If you consider the new Motherboard option, look at the boards that support the 75Mhz bus speed. Such as the M Tech R534, Gigabyte, and Asus as well as several others. And use the p150 with the 75MHz setting and you will get very good performance jump over the P60. Don't know about where you are but the 150's have really come down in price. Using the 150 with the 75MHz bus will give you performance of a 166 from what I have read. > > Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) I really hope you don't do this. But it is your money. > > or do you have any other ideas ? > > Please help, I don't know what to do! Well, you need to do some real upgrading. I would first look at a good graphics card. You will get some improvement, but it will be limited on the CPU you have. You can always move the card to whatever you upgrade to! The CPU and Motherboard would be next and then the Memory. Last would be the CDRom. I have found little improvement of going to an 8X from a 4X, installs are quicker and some of the movie sequences are better, but game play itself really seems to be about the same. Good Option M Tech R534 Motherboard $179.00 Cyrix P166+ CPU $169.00 Good 2d/3d Card $149.00 These are U.S. Prices! I am sure you have an idea of what this would translate to in Austria. And if you have had MMX about a week then you are not waiting very long for the new stuff. > > Thanks in advance! > > Jack > > P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes > to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) >
From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 15:59:45 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5cns5h$hsi$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <SHAFFER.97Jan29093724@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) wrote: > I just bought a 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball (I know, I know, everyone is > complaining about these disks). It didn't come with docs and the > jumper descriptions on the top of the drive (PK CS DS SP) don't match > the names of the jumpers on the drive (A2 A1 A0 TE) and even if they > did I don't know what they mean. It looks as if you've got a SCSI disk with an EIDE label on top... A0/A1/A2 are bits 0, 1, 2 of the SCSI-ID, "TE" means "Termination Enabled". Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: gxa114@wilbur.cac.psu.edu (GEOF ABRUZZI) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Another SCSI drive question Date: 29 Jan 1997 18:03:08 GMT Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing Message-ID: <5co3cs$133e@r02n01.cac.psu.edu> References: <5cmdm4$475@eve.enteract.com> I've only seen the quantum problems on the 4.3 gig drives. Here we had 3 go out in three months on three different servers. All were between 6-12 months old. I have not use the models below, but my experence with micropolis is great. (and fast) Geof Kevin Coffee (me@nextbox.enteract.com) wrote: : FWIW, I've been using a Quantum 1.2GB Fireball for three years. Maybe : I'm just blissfully ignorant of the problems, though. : In any event, I'm looking at 2 GB drives (to use inside my station) : and wonder if anyone has had experience with any of the following: : Micropolis 4421 (2.1 GB) : Quantum Tempest (2.1 GB) : Quantum Tempest (3.2 GB) : thanks. : -Kevin : -- : Kevin Coffee <kpc@enteract.com> <diffwerk@enteract.com> : d i f f w e r k s = w e b + d e s i g n + i n t e g r a t i o n : NextToMacFaq = http://www.enteract.com/~diffwerk/next-mac-faq.html -- ____________________________________________________________________________ Geof Abruzzi Language is a virus from outer space. gxa114@cac.psu.edu And hearing your name is better BeBox Developer #3089 than seeing your face. -Laurie Anderson ...
From: jon@mgmt.purdue.edu (Jon Haveman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:39:21 GMT Organization: Purdue University Message-ID: <5co919$8iu@mozo.cc.purdue.edu> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> "Jack" <jgroll@xpoint.at> writes > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? Please excuse my ignorance, but I've been wondering for a while now just what this MMX thing is..... Thanks much - Jon
From: Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:14:20 GMT Organization: 9h, Inc. Message-ID: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> Folks, I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. Is it possible? Or do I have to buy a "cube" turbo board? Thanks, liuyi -- Realife: Liu, Yi <liuyi@crystalball.com> {NeXTMail|MIME|ASCII}
From: kpfleger@hpp.Stanford.EDU (Karl Pfleger) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,su.computers.next Subject: can't find NS partition on 2nd SCSI hard disk Date: 29 Jan 1997 22:29:39 GMT Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University Distribution: world Message-ID: <5coj0j$j53@nntp.Stanford.EDU> I just installed a 2nd SCSI HD into my NS/Intel 3.2 system. I used fdisk to split it into 3 partitions (in order: DOS, NEXTSTEP, Linux). NEXTSTEP doesn't seem to recognize the NS partition of the 2nd disk. My 1st HD has 2 partitions (DOS, NEXTSTEP). NS can see both of these, and the new DOS partition on the new disk, but not the NEXTSTEP partition. NS can see the raw device (/dev/rsd1h), and in fact, I used NS's version of fdisk to do the partitioning. Before partitioning, NS could see the disk and I even formatted it and could read and write on it. But I couldn't leave things like this since I wanted to have it split so I could run Linux. Now, no directory comes up under '/' for the new NS partition, nor do I get a message when I log on saying "SCSI disk unreadable, would you like to format it", as I did before it was partitioned. The Console shows a message that complains that the device is busy and so it gave up trying to mount it. (Full Console output included below.) Can NS handle a 2nd SCSI disk that is partitioned? (Misc: There are no IDE HDs, only 2 SCSI ones. The SCSI IDs are: 1st HD = 0, 2nd HD = 1, CD-ROM = 2, Adaptec 1542cf SCSI controller = 7. The raw devices in NS for the HDs are: 1st = /dev/rsd0h, 2nd = /dev/rsd1h.) -Karl Console output: Software Version 3.2 (Thunder5S) probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS Jan 29 14:18:33 Workspace: Mounted DOS disk at /dos-win95 probing for CDROM probing for DOS Jan 29 14:18:36 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /dos-win95-2 probing for DOS Filesystem name: DOS mount: /dev/rsd1h on /dos-win95-2_2: Device busy mount: giving up on: /dos-win95-2_2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Karl Pfleger kpfleger@cs.stanford.edu http://www.stanford.edu/~kpfleger/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Subject: Re: Are 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* SIMMS okay for NeXTstation 25Mhz? Message-ID: <E49tF4.HGn@nidat.sub.org> Sender: nitezki@nidat.sub.org (Peter Nitezki) Organization: private site of Peter Nitezki, Kraichtal, Germany References: <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 19:42:40 GMT In article <5bk81t$6vm@alonzo.cs.sfu.ca> oneill@cs.sfu.ca (Melissa O'Neill) writes: > What with the Apple/NeXT merger, I figure I should wait a little > longer before buying a new machine, and so to get more life out > of my aging NeXTstation I'm going to give it more memory, going > from 20MB to 32MB. > > Checking prices I see that 4x9 60ns 30pin *3-Chip* parity SIMMS > are cheaper than the 4x8 70ns 30pin 8-chip non-parity SIMMS that > are usually recommended (well, 80-100ns are recommended, but I > don't know that such things can be bought new any more). > > However, I seem to remember seeing someone say that the tried > the 3-chip variety of SIMMs and had problems, which seems to go > against my intuition since I'd have thought the 3-chip kind would > be functionally equivalent to the 9-chip kind. SO, I'm hoping to > hear from some people out there who have experience either way... > Three chip 30pin SIMMs can cause trouble due to a changed refresh timing. But I've also heard of people who used them successfully. And I, by the way, experienced some kind of trouble with newer conventional chips... If you could find someone who'd be willing to take 'em back if they don't work... -- Peter Nitezki | Nitezki@NiDat.sub.org # Blessed art thou who knoweth Staarenbergstr. 44 | Tel.: +49 7251 62495 # not about the pleasure and D-76703 Kraichtal | Fax : +49 7251 69215 # delight of being hooked GERMANY | E-mail defunct, sorry # up to the Net. Peter 1,3-5
From: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu (C. David Shaffer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball jumper config??? Date: 29 Jan 1997 20:39:02 GMT Organization: University of Pittsburgh Message-ID: <SHAFFER.97Jan29153902@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> References: <SHAFFER.97Jan29093724@durer.phyast.pitt.edu> In-reply-to: shaffer@durer.phyast.pitt.edu's message of 29 Jan 1997 14:37:24 GMT Forget it. I just took off all of the jumpers except TE and it worked. Sorry for the wasted bandwidth... David -- David Shaffer Department of Physics Wayne State College Wayne, NE 68787 shaffer@phyast.pitt.edu
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac Mouse Date: 30 Jan 1997 02:44:12 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5cp1ts$1ld0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <32EF626F.1F61@gcomm.com> <AF14EF94-9FDA9@207.147.51.243> Cc: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net In <AF14EF94-9FDA9@207.147.51.243> "Mitchell Allen" wrote: > On Wed, Jan 29, 1997 9:45 AM, amando@gcomm.com <mailto:amando@gcomm.com> > wrote: > > Recently I bought a used Nextstation and the mouse is really heavy! > > Doesn anybody knows if a Mac mouse can be used with the Nextstation. > > The > > nextstation is ADB. > > Heavy? I thought it was flimsy and uncomfortable. Anyway, you can connect > any ADB mouse (Apple or otherwise) to an ADB NeXT. The same goes for > keyboards. > > Can a non-ADB mouse be connected to the ADB system? Rudy. -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Brian Schuster <bschuster@microsys.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.misc Subject: ## WE NEED 4000 HDD NOW! ## Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:03:52 -0800 Organization: Network Intensive Message-ID: <32F047D8.6C58@microsys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ## WE NEED 4000 HDD NOW! ## HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE NEED TO FILL OPEN PURCHASE ORDER FOR THE FOLLOWING HARD DRIVES IMMEDIATELY: BROKERS, ***********THIS IS A NO NONSENSE REQUEST*************** ***BROKER-BROKER-BROKER GAMES WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.*** WE WILL PROTECT YOU, YOUR CLIENT AND 'REASONABLE' COMMISSIONS. BUT WE MUST DEAL DIRECTLY WITH THE HOLDER OF THE PRODUCT. TIME ALLOWS NO OTHER OPTIONS. OUR CLIENT HAS PURCHASED MORE THAN $1,500,000 WORTH OF DRIVES, IN THE LAST WEEK. CALL IMMEDIATELY IF YOU HAVE THIS PRODUCT IN ANY QUANTITY AND WE'LL ISSUE A PURCHASE ORDER WITHIN MINUTES. MANUFACTURER MODEL NUMBER QUANTITY NEEDED TARGET SEAGATE ST 32155 WC 1500 $420 SEAGATE ST 32155 W 1300 $420 SEAGATE ST 32550 W 300 $420 SEAGATE ST 32550 WC 600 $675 SEAGATE ST 15150 W 300 $BEST CONTACT BILL SANDERS PHONE: 1-619-433-1864 FAX: 1-619-433-6862 bsanders@pacbell.net
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Jonathan B. Leffert" <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> Subject: partitioning a 4gb scsi drive Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.970130011459.26525A-100000@woodlawn.uchicago.edu> Sender: jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 07:16:17 GMT I'm running OpenStep 4.1 for intel. I have a 4gb scsi disk drive which is currently partitioned like so: 2gb OpenStep 500mb Dos I'd like to use the remaining 1.5 gb but I don't know how to do this. fdisk won't let me created another Nextstep partition. If deleteing the dos partition would do it, that would be fine. any suggestions would be helpfull. jon Jonathan B. Leffert <jbleffer@midway.uchicago.edu> "Funny how ev'rything was roses when we held on to the guns, just because you're winnin' don't mean you're the lucky ones." -- Guns n' Roses, Breakdown finger -l jbleffer@woodlawn.uchicago.edu for PGP Public Key
From: "Zacharias J. Beckman" <zac@dreams.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: How to create serial port speed 38400??? Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:05:45 GMT Organization: Dreams Message-ID: <01bc0e84$7c4fae80$690497cf@opus.dreams.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I very much would like to create a serial device which operates at 38,400 baud. Unfortunately, NEXTSTEP seems to think this an odd speed, as whenever I try the port fails to operate correctly. I've followed what I believe are the correct steps to create the port (cufa38400), but using 'tip cufa38400' results in a connection that fails to communicate with the modem. Tip responds with 'connected,' so it appears the setup is correct. I can type whatever I like... but apparently the modem never receives it, or I never receive the modems response. Any suggestions or step-by-step notes on creating and verifying such a connection would be greatly appreciated. Please email me--if anyone is interested, I'll be glad to post a summary. Thanks! --- Zacharias J. Beckman - zac@dreams.com - 310-822-1583 vox, 822-0163 fax 520 Washington Boulevard, Suite #339, Marina del Rey, California 90292 http://www.dreams.com
From: Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:37:11 -0500 Organization: Florida State University Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.3.95.970128083335.14067A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu In-Reply-To: <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> On 28 Jan 1997 sun@bubba.cchem.berkeley.edu wrote: > Hey, has anyone had problems with their fingers using the ADB mouse? I have > used the non-ADB as well as the ADB keyboards, I prefere the ADB one. But the > ADB mouse really sucks. I can't use it for long before getting a cramp in the > knuckle. It's definitely not ergonomic. Are you depressing the buttons with the tips of your fingers (a la the old NeXT mouse)? If so, then no wonder you're getting cramps. I believe you're supposed to sort of drape your hand over the mouse, laying your first two fingers flat on the buttons. Then just push your fingers down slightly to click. Light-years ahead of the original NeXT mouse, IMO. -Isaac
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:23:32 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5cq3s4$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <AF0EA9DD-224769@207.147.62.22> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Cc: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl In <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: rudy (Rudolf B. Blazek) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Q: FIMI=Hitachi & Trinitron=Sony?? Date: 30 Jan 1997 12:34:20 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <5cq4gc$on0@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <5cb8tl$mcv@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <AF0EA9DD-224769@207.147.62.22> <5cl4eo$gt7@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Cc: G.C.Th.Wierda@AWT.nl In <E4rJzL.Dv7@AWT.NL> Drs G. C. Th. Wierda wrote: > Christian Neuss <neuss@NO.SPAM> wrote: > >"Mitchell Allen" <mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > >>Only sony manufactures Trinitron monitors, but I don't know if sony > > IIYama manufactures 'Diamondtron' monitors, which are Trinitron-clones. > > >>manufactures non-Trinitron monitors. There is an easy way to tell. Set > >>the screen color to some light color and look about one quarter of the way > >>down from the top and a quarter up from the bottom and you will see a faint > >>black line running all the way across the screen. This is the signature of > >>a trinitron. > > BTW FIMI = Philips (made in Italy). I don't know what tube (CRT) they use. > > Does anybody have the schematics of the FIMI yet? > > Sorry for the previous empty post :-))) After reading all the comments about the Trinitron monitors I wonder: Why do people prefer it over the FIMI? We bought a monitor for an Intel based machine and I was about to return the monitor we got because I hated the two lines in the first and third quarter of the height of the screen. I thought the monitor was defective and I still cannot believe that the lines are a FEATURE of the monitor! Also, I can see all the fine rows of pixels (it is 21" monitor) on the screen. They are physical lines, not caused by the resolution I use. And the sucker flickers like hell (while looking at the screen only using the peripheral vision of the eyes. Yes, we got a good video card, that shouldn't be the reason. On the other hand, I am happy with all our NeXT monitors by FIMI (21 and 17"). You don't see any pixels, any physical lines and the picture is extremely stable. It looks more like a photograph than a computer screen. The only question would be the radiation, I guess. But the picture is superb. Good luck. Rudy -- Rudy Blazek Michigan State University blazek@stt.msu.edu Department of Statistics & Probability
From: Jason Wagner <jason@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 30 Jan 1997 08:50:03 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Greets. Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their Intel PC equivalents? I am very interested in picking up a small used NeXT machine to tinker around with, and I'd like to know what kinds of performance levels I can expect. Thanks! Jason jason@primenet.com
From: johnh@scruznet.com (John H) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trinitron vs Fimi Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:11:43 GMT Organization: Borland International Message-ID: <5cqh5e$9c59@newslist.borland.com> What is the Fimi monitor? How does it compare to the trinitron? How do i know if a monitor is trinitron or fimi? (i think mine is 4001). John
From: rleary@fordyn (Rolfe Leary) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Dead monitor Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:20:53 GMT Organization: University of Minnesota Message-ID: <5cql9l$hd0@epx.cis.umn.edu> I'd like to buy a new color monitor to replace the dead one on my Color Turbo, but I'm not sure what type of monitor will work. Any suggestions or recommendations? What type of adaptor will I need? Thanks. Rolfe
From: "Jack" <jgroll@xpoint.at> Subject: MMX-upgrading Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Message-ID: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Date: 29 Jan 97 19:09:00 GMT folks, need some help, please! I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom I want to upgrade, so should I buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? more Ram ? better graphics-card ? better CD-Rom ? or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) or do you have any other ideas ? Please help, I don't know what to do! Thanks in advance! Jack P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week)
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:24:20 -0500 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8mwCRIS00iWQQ8=WBQ@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> In-Reply-To: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.hardware: 30-Jan-97 Compate NeXT to PC? by Jason Wagner@primenet.co > Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU > series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their > Intel PC equivalents? In terms of raw CPU power: A 25 MHz 68040 NeXT machine is roughly equal to a 486DX/33. A 33 MHz " " " " " " " " 486DX/50 or a 486DX2/66. However, the video systems and the rest of the hardware design has weathered the years better than CPU power. NeXT's have a fast internal bus and pipeline to the video memory which is comparible to a VLB card in terms of performance. They are nice machines to use when you've got to program, word process, or otherwise enter a lot of text, but you no longer want to use them for CPU-intensive stuff. Most people find a PC running Netscape to be a better platform for web browsing, for example. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:58:43 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180003001970958430001@news.sprynet.com> References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970127231432.8469A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <Pine.LNX.3.95.970127231432.8469A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu>, Isaac <isaac@pobox.com> wrote: >On 28 Jan 1997, Schwebby wrote: > >> I need to add a CD ROM drive and a modem to a NeXTstation. I have an Apple >> CD 300e+ external and an NEC Multispin 4X. Do I need NeXT drivers for >> these ? If so does anyone know where to get them ? > >Both of these should "just work". I'm using a CD300e on my 'station. >It's true "plug'n'play". (Eat that, Microsoft! :)) I took the CD ROM out of my PPC 7200 and plugged it into the internal harddrive connectors ( whilel running/booted with an external HD) and it just worked. ( did this to load the NeXTstep Dev 3.0 from a CD onto the 1 gig external HD) -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: Jason Wagner <jason@primenet.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI Drives? Date: 30 Jan 1997 11:10:04 -0700 Organization: Primenet (602)416-7000 Message-ID: <5cqo5s$4vg@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> I've got four Seagate/CDC 148MB FH SCSI-1 hard drives that came out of old Sun 368's... I am considering picking up a low-end, stripped mono NeXT station to play around on, and was wondering if these drives will work. Is the external SCSI connector on the back of these systems a 25-pin DB style or Centronics style, etc? If I go with a Cude I figur eI can get two inside and two in a tower on the outise, or with a Station I'd go with all four outside. Is this wishful thinking or will these ideas work? Thanks! Jason -- Regards. @@@@ _ @()@ Jason Wagner @@()@@ _(_)_ @()@() vVVVv @@@@ (_)@(_) ()@()@) (___) jason@primenet.com / (_) _\|/_ Y webmaster@automationplus.com \ | \ / |-----| \ | / www.primenet.com/~jason \\|// \\|/ \___/ \\\|// www.automationplus.com
From: tgritton@sprynet.com (Terry Gritton) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Contour Mouse - Re: What is the advantage of ADB Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:36:14 -0800 Organization: ^self -> (CompSci/MolBiol) Message-ID: <tgritton-ya023180003001970936140001@news.sprynet.com> References: <E4J2sA.5Hn@novice.uwaterloo.ca> <AF0EAC3F-22D734@207.147.62.22> <tgritton-ya023180002701971002020001@news.sprynet.com> <5ck9pf$fk1@ultra.exodus.net> <tgritton-ya023180002801971209520001@news.sprynet.com> <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <5cltd6$1b3@news.digifix.com>, sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) wrote: >>At MacWorld Expo SF I came across an ergonomic mouse made by Contour, comes >>in three sizes and left/right hand versions. I'm using a large left with my >>NeXTstation (ADB). > > I've been using one of these along with my Kenisis keyboard now for >several months. > > The difference in having a properly sized mouse and properly shaped >is amazing. > > Contours now come in 4 sizes, and left/right hands, and are >available in PS2, ADB and SUN configurations. Definately worth the $50 or >so for one. > > Its great to have the same mouse on all my different hardware boxes. >:-) Now if someone would only provide a mouse driver for NeXT so that the other two buttons would work, or only perhaps the second button with the usual NeXT functionality. -- -- Terry Gritton "Glycobiology - the new frontier of biosemiotics" tgritton@sprynet.com
From: "Matt Kauffman" <kauffmam@vitro.com> Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: 30 Jan 1997 17:21:29 GMT Organization: Vitro Corporation Message-ID: <01bc0ed2$8a1b57a0$2a262095@KAUFFMAM.vitro.com> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net> If Jack wants to upgrade to MMX, or any other Pentium CPU outside of a P5-66, he will need a new motherboard. The P5-60 and 66 are not board compatible with P5-75s and up, whether you're talking Intel, Cyrix or AMD. MMK -- just another human resource Doug Phelps <doug@pagesz.net> wrote in article <32EFAB7B.E5@pagesz.net>... > Jack wrote: > > > > folks, > > need some help, please! > > I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom > > I want to upgrade, so should I > > > > buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? > > more Ram ? > > better graphics-card ? > > better CD-Rom ? > > Jack, I would look at your motherboard before you go and get an MMX > CPU! make sure it is upgradable to the speed you are looking at. And > make sure it will support the dual voltage requirments of MMX. > > If it were me, I would leave the CD Rom drive alone, it should serve you > well and you will see little if any performance gain from upgrading. > > Graphics Card!!!!! YES, this can really improve your perfomance. > Several good options out there. If you are doing lots of 3D games then > you may want to look at one of the 3Dfx cards or the Verite card if you > want to save some cash. > > The P60 does need to go soon. Again I would look at the motherboard > first. You can get a good board from $130 to $180 US dollars in US. > Don't know your pricing but this should give you an idea of what you are > looking at. I would also consider the Cyrix CPU's. Very good value and > great performance. Although if you play Quake alot you may want to > stick with Intel. > > > > > or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? > > The 150 is another good value. If you consider the new Motherboard > option, look at the boards that support the 75Mhz bus speed. Such as > the M Tech R534, Gigabyte, and Asus as well as several others. And use > the p150 with the 75MHz setting and you will get very good performance > jump over the P60. Don't know about where you are but the 150's have > really come down in price. Using the 150 with the 75MHz bus will give > you performance of a 166 from what I have read. > > > > > > Maybe I just buy a console, that's cheaper (I play games,mostly) > > I really hope you don't do this. But it is your money. > > > > > or do you have any other ideas ? > > > > Please help, I don't know what to do! > > > Well, you need to do some real upgrading. I would first look at a good > graphics card. You will get some improvement, but it will be limited on > the CPU you have. You can always move the card to whatever you upgrade > to! The CPU and Motherboard would be next and then the Memory. Last > would be the CDRom. I have found little improvement of going to an 8X > from a 4X, installs are quicker and some of the movie sequences are > better, but game play itself really seems to be about the same. > > Good Option > M Tech R534 Motherboard $179.00 > Cyrix P166+ CPU $169.00 > Good 2d/3d Card $149.00 > > These are U.S. Prices! I am sure you have an idea of what this would > translate to in Austria. > And if you have had MMX about a week then you are not waiting very long > for the new stuff. > > > > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Jack > > > > P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes > > to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) > > >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: <E4ttv7.GwB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:04:18 GMT References: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> Organization: University of Waterloo In article <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com>, Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> wrote: >Folks, > >I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits >in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks >different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether >there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. > You can't really do this, since the slab board doesn't have a NeXTbus connector. I suppose you could somehow make a bracket to mount it inside the cube chassis and then kludge up a conenctor for the power supply, but it seems like a lot of work. -- David Evans (NeXTMail OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual
From: nickle@smart.net (Mike Nickle) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Can I put a turbo slab board inside a cube? Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:07:15 GMT Organization: Smartnet Message-ID: <5cr9j3$mcd$1@news.smart.net> References: <5coi3s$elt$1@news.crystalball.com> <E4ttv7.GwB@novice.uwaterloo.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit : Yi Liu <liuyi@crystalball.com> wrote: : > : >I recently upgraded to an ND Turbo Cube and now my old turbo slab just sits : >in the corner collecting dust. Although the board in the slab looks : >different from the motherboard (040 33MHz) in my cube, I am wondering whether : >there's a way that I can pull it from the slab and put it in the cube. : > : You can't really do this, since the slab board doesn't have a NeXTbus : connector. I suppose you could somehow make a bracket to mount it inside the : cube chassis and then kludge up a conenctor for the power supply, but it seems : like a lot of work. In all of the two m/b implementations that I have ever heard of the secondary m/b is used in a netboot configuration...typically as a PPP server or the like. If it were me in your situation, I would set the slab under the cube, BNC ethernet the two together and go to town. _____________________________________________________________________________ Michael D. Nickle || Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? nickle@smart.net || (But who will guard the guards themselves) http://www.smart.net/~nickle || Satires, VI, line 347 -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Charles Bennett <chuck@benatong.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Has anyone tried a Biostar 8500TUC motherboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:22:41 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Message-ID: <32F0F501.136F@benatong.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking at replacing my old epson progression. (It's a refugee from the first NeXT->Intel porting camp :-) ) I found a p166+ (cyrix) on this motherboard for $359.00 and was wondering if it would work. I'm really waiting for a dual Power PC so I don't want to invest too much in a system my daughters will be playing games on after mid-year :-) Is there a FAQ collecting this type of info.. Details... 512K COAST 2.0 Extended Pipeline Burst Cache Triton II HX Chipset Universal Serial BUS Chip 4 PCI & 4 ISA Slots 4 (72) Pin SIMM Sockets, Up To 128 MEG (Supports EDO RAM) AMI Flash BIOS IDE Mode 4 Hard Drive & Floppy Controller 2 Serial 1 Parallel UART 16550 High Speed Ports TIA Chuck -- "It's inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians." Henrik Ibsen
From: 煙煙燏6穓im@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Digital Eye Info - Metaresearch Date: 30 Jan 1997 23:08:54 GMT Organization: The Claremont Colleges Message-ID: <5cr9m6$blb$1@cinenews.claremont.edu> I came upon a Digital Eye Interface for black workstations which supports SVGA video output. The software and manual appear to be lost. Does anyone have a lead on how to obtain these. Jim Kieley jim@cgs.edu
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help.. [Network Printer].. Date: 31 Jan 1997 01:20:56 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5crhdo$a58$5@news.cc.umr.edu> HI, We have a pentium 133 running NextStep 3.3. I was trying to connect a Network printer (postScript printer) to this machine. What do I need to do for this to work. Thank you very much .. Sanjeev
From: sanjeev@ee.umr.edu (Sanjeev Agarwal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help.. [CD ROM drive] .. Date: 31 Jan 1997 01:21:27 GMT Organization: UMR Missouri's Technological University Message-ID: <5crhen$a58$6@news.cc.umr.edu> I had installed a CD ROM driver (6x) on Pentium 133 running NS 3.3. Of late I cannot seem to access the CD ROM driver (for music CDs or otherwise). I was wondering what could have gone wrong. Could it have been some bug in CD Player that comes with the system. What do I need to do to correct this. Thank you .. Sanjeev
From: cybobob@mindspring.com (Nick Sharpe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will ATI 3D Expression work in NeXTSTEP Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:06:57 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <32f10d0d.392955@news.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I heard that the chip in the 3D Expression is like the mach64, so does the mach64 driver work for a 3D Expression in NeXTSTEP? Thanks
From: Pei-Te Kao <pkao@halcyon.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ATAPI IDE CD-ROM (NEC) - having problem installing NextStep 3.3 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:33:09 -0800 Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. Message-ID: <32F159E5.E57@halcyon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - In the last few weeks, I have been trying to install NextStep 3.3 on a Dell dimension XPS Pentium Pro200n without success! It has Adaptec 2940 UW scsi for the HD, and ATAPI EIDE 8X NEC CD-ROM drive on the primay EIDE controller now (it was on the secondary, I moved it to the primary). The drivers used were downloaded from the NeXTanswers - v3.37 for the Adaptec 2940 (this was chosen first during the installation) and v3.31 for EIDE and APTAPI. It dectected both the HD and the CD-ROM; however, after that it said something like: "hc0, ... APTAPI not ready to accept command, ... (DRQ not set, status=d1)" (something like that). It kept retrying and kept failing. I had to just turn off the machine. I have talked with NeXT tech support and was told that they have had this driver problem with NEC's drive (ATAPI EIDE). They said that I can attach an external SCSI CD ROM drive for installation. However, after it's installed it still can't recognize the internal NEC CD ROM drive. Is there anything else I can do? I really would like to make it work without getting an external drive or getting another internal one. Is there any other way to make it work? has any one done it successfully? Would really appreciate any helps. Thansk! Pei-Te
From: lazer@pgh.net (Ron L.) Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MTech R528 board and MMX ? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:38:43 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <32f214d4.11683182@news.pgh.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just ordered a system with the M-technology R528 board and a P166MMX. Now I am concerned if this board actually supports mmx. My system is currently on its way via UPS and I'm expecting it in several days. I tried to search for this issue on the web and the only board that showed support in the specs for MMX on Mtech's site was the "new" R534 (Mustang). I have been told by the vendor I am purchasing from that the R528 does support MMX and is P55C compatable with a voltage core of 2.5 to 3.5 . Can anyone verify this? Thanks, Ron lazer@pgh.net
From: "Peter Q. Olsson" <peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware, Subject: device driver for exabyte drive Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:46:20 -0900 Organization: Geophysical Institute, University of Alaska Fairbanks Message-ID: <32F14EEC.73B3@gi.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want to use an exabyte tapedrive (purchased from Sun) w/ an Intel machine running OpenStep 4.0. Do I need a device driver for this purpose, and if so, where do I go to find one? (or more information about this issue for that matter) PQO -- ############################################ # # Dr. Peter Q. Olsson # Geophysical Institute # University of Alaska Fairbanks # Fairbanks, AK 99775 # # voice: (907) 474-6477 # fax: (907) 474 7290 # e-mail: peter.olsson@gi.alaska.edu # #############################################
From: nextsale@ibgi.com (Ed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Any WWW sites that cover Next Hardware????? Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:51:52 GMT Organization: IBGi Message-ID: <32f01ac6.55696833@news.cfa.org> References: <tj-2801971719190001@i441.oro.net> http://www.ibgi.com/nextsale.htm
From: Charles Bennett <chuck@benatong.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: Re: Logitec Mouse on a NeXT Keyboard Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:30:41 -0500 Organization: BenaTong Message-ID: <32F104F1.377C@benatong.com> References: <32E89346.2C4D@delphi.tn.tudelft.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I found it.. (It's no wonder I need a 4 gig drive..I never throw anything away :-) ) The name of the file is LogitecTrackManTrackballReplacment.ps and the author is John Karabaic jk@exnext.com I have made it avaiable for anonymous ftp at ftp.benatong.com in the /pub/next area ftp://ftp.benatong.com/pub/next/LogitechTrackManTrackballReplacement.ps Hope this helps. Chuck BenaTong makers of PowerGuardian for NeXTSTEP -- "It's inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians." Henrik Ibsen
From: selina@shop.com Organization: Cat.Shop. Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> References: <5cr4lc$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:44:37 +1 EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Complete Canon Computer System at Closout Price.
From: mjkobb@netgate.net (Michael J. Kobb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: MegaPixel Color Display on Mac?? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:06:09 -0800 Message-ID: <mjkobb-ya023480003101970006090001@news.ricochet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, This is probably a FAQ, but I'm new to the idea of owning NeXT black hardware. Is it possible to use a NeXT Color MegaPixel Display with a Mac? Are there any video cards that support this display? Thanks, --Mike mjkobb@netgate.net
From: altenber@acpub.duke.edu (Lee Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Compate NeXT to PC? Date: 30 Jan 1997 20:53:39 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5cr1oj$bfa@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> References: <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Cc: jason@primenet.com In <5cqfvb$m74@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Jason Wagner wrote: > Greets. > > Being a PC nerd for 16 years I am unsure what to expect from the 68040 CPU > series. Can anyone compare the various flavors of NeXT machines to their > Intel PC equivalents? I am very interested in picking up a small used > NeXT machine to tinker around with, and I'd like to know what kinds of > performance levels I can expect. > > Thanks! > Jason > jason@primenet.com > I did some benchmarks, and a 486 DX2 66 MHz PC was 2.5 times faster than the NeXT 25 MHz 68040 for basic CPU speed. Graphics performance is comparable. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100 Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenber@mhpcc.edu <MIME and NeXT Mail o.k.> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~altenber/ =======================================================================
From: herbert.lee@compu-tel.to.org Newsgroups: alt.comp.hardware,biz.comp.hardware,comp.hardware,comp.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.chips,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc-hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: MMX-upgrading Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 08:43:58 GMT Organization: Netcom Canada Message-ID: <32f1aff2.4593364@nntp.netcruiser> References: <01bc0e20$34773060$7d0002c3@ripper> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Jack" <jgroll@xpoint.at> wrote: >folks, >need some help, please! >I have a P60, 16MB Ram, some 1MB graphics-card,quad CD-Rom >I want to upgrade, so should I > >buy P166MMX or P200MMX or wait 4 better Chip ? >more Ram ? >better graphics-card ? >better CD-Rom ? > >or buy some P150-Chip because it's not worth all the money ? haha, almost everyone said this is the best CPU u could ever get. IF u run at 150 is won't do u any go, However, just get yourself an ASUS MB and u can clock it to 2.5X75 which is running as fast as a P200. If u want want to buy an expensive ASUS, then get yourself an cheap VX brd and u still able to overclock it to 166. (As long as it is not remark) > >Please help, I don't know what to do! > >Thanks in advance! > > Jack > >P.S.:I'm from Austria; everything is more expensive ( I think so) and comes >to our strores later (MMX is here since about a week) >
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org._NO_SPAM (Thomas Funke) Subject: Re: CD ROM Drives & Modems on NeXTstation Message-ID: <1997Jan30.095543.734@gamelan.shnet.org> Sender: thomas@gamelan.shnet.org (thomas) Cc: isaac@pobox.com Organization: Disorganization References: <19970128030501.WAA06426@ladder01.news.aol.com> <Pine.LNX.3.95.970127231432.8469A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 09:55:43 GMT In <Pine.LNX.3.95.970127231432.8469A-100000@lab.housing.fsu.edu> Isaac wrote: > are $49). OmniWeb is more Netscape-compatible, and is free for individual Just note that the Nextstep-Browsers are *NOT* Java-capable, also no JavaScript. Also they are very slow on NeXT hardware (Netsurfer is actually not usable because of this).
From: Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Memory for Cube Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:04:12 -0800 Message-ID: <32F2341C.4FD8@mindspring.com> References: <32E7B448.2781E494@ucsd.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris. I'm told that industry standard 72 pinn simms will work in a NEXT., and this was told to me by a vendor who I guessed would have something to loose by telling me this in favor of selling me his own brand of memory specifically designed for NEXT. Mac memors is not truly industry standard so I don't know about that. You can get some good info on ram for a nest by visiting RMP's homepage. I think tht it is RMP.com (you know the rest) If you don;t fing it, just e-mail me and I'll provide you with the tel # as I am at school reading this group now and don't have it with me here. Peace. Chris Stuart wrote: > > I'd like to install some more memory into an 8M cube. Can I use plain > Macintosh chips or is there something else recommended? > > Also, after briefly opening the cube I didn't see an obvious place to > install the chips. Do you have to remove the power supply or anything? > > Thanks very much. > -- > **************************** > Chris Stuart > Systems Administrator > University of California, San Diego > Center for Research in Computing and the Arts > cstuart@ucsd.edu > (619) 534-4383 > ****************************
From: Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:07:42 -0800 Message-ID: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work.
From: Kari Karhi <kari@pswtech.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 21" on a PC and headless booting? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:54:30 +0000 Organization: PSW Technologies Message-ID: <32F215B6.41C6@pswtech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I need to put together another PC at home and am thinking to use my old Color NextStation's 21" monitor with it. Can I use the 21" monitor with a PC graphics card (like the Millennium) and where can I get the video cable (VGA to three BNCs)? Also, what kind of resolutions and refresh rates does the monitor have? Also, I would still be interested in keeping the Color NextStation. I remember long ago people talking about booting a Color Station headless, ie. using the serial port as the console. Can I do it and what do I need to do to enable it? I was thinking of leaving the system as a print server. If I did, does anyone have any experience using a NeXT as a print server to a couple of NTs? Cheers, Kari ======================================== Kari Karhi PSW Technologies kari@pswtech.com
From: ians@cam-ani.co.uk (Ian Stephenson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: expansion slots! Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:28:00 GMT Organization: Cambridge Animation Systems Ltd Sender: news@cam-ani.co.uk Message-ID: <E4vv6p.Hsu@cam-ani.co.uk> References: <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> In article <32F234EE.46EE@mindspring.com> Ann <ancar@mindspring.com> writes: > I'd like to know what type of expansion slots does a Nextstation have. > Is there an industry standard ISA, EISA or MCA slot in this machine. No. There's no expansion available. > My reason for the enquiry is that I want to puirchase one of these > machines and network it so I'd have to be aware of the type of network > card to purchase or better yet, if one that I have will work. The reason there are none is that it already has 10baseT and thin ether, SCSI, DSP audio, and video as good as many PC's. What would you want to add? $an
From: "Integrated Wellness Systems" <byrnejbb@ix.netcom.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Newbie Help Date: 31 Jan 1997 19:46:45 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <01bc0faf$a12ff760$23cdb7c7@byrnejbb> **Newbie Alert** Please note that I DID read the peanuts FAQ before asking the following. So, if the info was there, it just didn't stick. I'm going to attempt adding a SCSI drive to my 'new' NeXT Station. I understand that I can accomplish this by: 1) Obtaining a SCSI to SCSI ribbon cable and a power connector and installing the extra drive inside the slab case. What about termination in this situation? 2) Attaching the drive external but I need a special SCSI II connector on the cable. Where can I get such a cable? After I attach the drive, which is being removed from a Mac, how do I format it? From the Workspace Manager. That sounds too easy but here's hoping. I also have available a Zip Drive and a CD-ROM, also from a Mac. I understand that all I need to do is add these to the SCSI chain and they will 'just work'. Regarding the Zip--the media is Mac formatted. Do I simply reformat via the workspace manager. Thank you in advance! John Byrne New to NeXT World and proud of it!
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