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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Date: 31 Aug 1997 03:53:18 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSImageView accepts no drags in modal windows Date: 31 Aug 1997 17:22:03 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5uc97r$ime$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, there seems to be a bug in the NSImageView class. In modal windows it does not accept drop's if it is set to editable. I might have missed some detail of modal windows but I see no reason why drag&drop should not work for NSImageViews in modal sessions...so this seems like a bug. Workaround: Don't run the window modal (ok...that's a bad workaround :-( ) Aloha Tomi
From: ckane@next.com (Christopher Kane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Bogus behaviour with NSArray>indexOfObject: (4.2) Date: 31 Aug 1997 17:41:51 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5ucacv$ieu$1@news2.apple.com> References: <5skmti$et@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> In article <5skmti$et@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) writes: > > NSArray has methods to find the first object either equal or > identical to the methods' argument: > > - (unsigned)indexOfObject: (id)anObject > - (unsigned)indexOfObjectIdenticalTo: (id)anObject > > The -identicalTo: method works fine. The problem seems to be with > -indexOfObject. Consider the following program: > [...] > When run, the program will say: > > Aug 10 16:20:15 NSArray+accessing[1271] #0 isEqual: #1: 1 > Aug 10 16:20:15 NSArray+accessing[1271] indexObject: '1' > > So, although both objects in the array are equal by value, the first > element will be ignored. It seems that there is a difference between > what the documentation says and how the implementation works. > [...] > > Will this be fixed in upcoming versions of Foundation? (DR1?) This has been fixed in the Rhapsody Premier Foundation, but was not fixed in the Developer Foundation. Christopher Kane Application Frameworks Apple Computer, Inc.
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSWorkspace selectFile:inFileViewerRootedAtPath bug Date: 31 Aug 1997 18:11:21 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5ucc49$jcu$1@concorde.ctp.com> According to the documentation of NSWorkspace one should pass an empty string @"" to the selectFile:inFileViewerRootedAtPath: method. However...read this: Aug 31 18:35:47 TheShelf[16733] *** -[NSConcreteTimer fire]: ignoring exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException' (reason 'empty string passed to fileSystemRepresentationWithPath:') that raised during posting of timer with target 2b6334 and selector 'reallySelectCell:' So the docu is wrong about that. :-( There is no real fix or real workaround. The "best"? workaround is to pass @"/" as the rootPath. But this causes a new instance of the main browser to get created in your workspace. This bug was found on Openstep 4.2/Mach/Intel. There are other "problems" with the NSWorkspace. Calling NSWorkspace methods from inside a dragging session causes the dragging sesssion to hang until it times out...after that the workspace request which caused the hang will finally be processed. This is bad and not documented :-(...but propably related to the DO mechanism which does teh communication between the single apps and the shared Workspace.app. Workaround: NSWorkspace is one of those propably thread save classes. Detatching a thread for the NSWorkspace requests seems to solve some of these problems...however..there is no guarantee that NSWorkspace will really work properly with multiple threads...so be warned. Aloha Tomi
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From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSColor documentation bug Date: 2 Sep 1997 16:30:29 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5uhev5$b38$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, in the 4.2 documentation to NSColor there is a bug: ... NEXTSTEP includes seven different color spaces, referred to by these enumeration constants: NSDeviceCMYKColorSpace Cyan, magenta, yellow, black, and alpha components ... which is wrong! The contants are not "enumeration constants" but "NSString constants". So don't try storing these constants in (int) ivars...it propably won't work ;-) Aloha Tomi
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From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Setting nil objects as values for UI elements...wierd. Date: 3 Sep 1997 00:05:27 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, is it just me or are there other people who consider this as a bug: [myTextField setStringValue:nil] results in an exception...but for a textField I think it might make sense to resert the content to the state of a freshly created textField. (I don't knwo from the top of my head...but I think that in this case stringValue really returns a "nil" which in this case is a value you don't expect since you can't set it...) But: [myColorWell setColor:nil] works like a charm which IMHO makes absolutly no sense since the color well will display a colorBackgroundGray "color" (or some random color) and lure you to believe that the well contains some useful information. It also acts a little unpredictalble...since sometimes you get some funky color (say Pantone blue)...but when you drag the swatch it is a black swatch. Personally I would switch that behavior since nil for textFields makes sense..but definitly not for colorWells. And while we are at it...it gets even better: (gdb) po [desktopColorPrefWell setColor:nil] <NSColorPanel: 0x2c66cc> Hmm... shouldn't that method return void ? Why is GDB actually returning a valid object and not barfing at me as it usually does. Let's not call it a feature but a bug. Comments ? Aloha Tomi
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5uib9h$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Control: cancel <5uib9h$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Date: 03 Sep 1997 01:11:35 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5uib9h$3s7@examiner.concentric.net> Sender: FREE CABLE<pifer@laugh.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Setting nil objects as values for UI elements...wierd. Date: 3 Sep 1997 07:01:38 GMT Organization: Egghead Billy, Inc. Message-ID: <5uj20i$cr9@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> References: <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> Thomas Engel wrote: > is it just me or are there other people who consider this as a bug: > > [myTextField setStringValue:nil] > > results in an exception...but for a textField I think it might make sense to > resert the content to the state of a freshly created textField. (I don't knwo > from the top of my head...but I think that in this case stringValue really > returns a "nil" which in this case is a value you don't expect since you > can't set it...) > > But: > > [myColorWell setColor:nil] > > works like a charm which IMHO makes absolutly no sense since the color well > will display a colorBackgroundGray "color" (or some random color) and lure > you to believe that the well contains some useful information. > It also acts a little unpredictalble...since sometimes you get some funky > color (say Pantone blue)...but when you drag the swatch it is a black swatch. I think that [myTextField setStringValue:@""] makes more sense than [myTextField setStringValue:nil] but it would be nice if setting a string value to nil had the same effect. I agree with you about the color wells though.... -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mark Trombino | J A M S o f t | | mtrombin@ix.netcom.com | Audio DSP Tools for Openstep & Rhapsody | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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From: dnelson@slip.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep Intel/Mach Install Tips page Date: 3 Sep 1997 13:58:09 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5ukj11$ml2@slip.net> I have made a web page that has some tips for dealing with some of the Openstep install issues. You can get to it here: http://www.slip.net/~dnelson/openstep.html Basically, it describes some of the problems I have had and some of the solutions. If you have a problem/solution we can put the result of that here. contact me here: dnelson@slip.net
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5urnfn$35a$7703@news.Kijfhoek.NL.net> Control: cancel <5urnfn$35a$7703@news.Kijfhoek.NL.net> Date: 06 Sep 1997 14:00:31 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5urnfn$35a$7703@news.Kijfhoek.NL.net> Sender: Funstore<Funstore@sod.nl> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: atl2@lehigh.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: WOFrames not recognized by Netscape browsers Date: 6 Sep 1997 13:25:34 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <5urlke$16no@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> The subject says it. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know a workaround? The matter has some urgency... Alex -- Alexander Levine Philosophy Department Lehigh University ATL2@lehigh.edu
From: rgr@freedomnet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Is this you? Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 08:18:42 Organization: FreedomNet Message-ID: <5ujkl4$jc9$2093@news.freedomnet.com> Are you sick of all the Home Business hype? Most of them are either too expensive or so complicated that you can't explain them to other people. Are you ready for a simple Home Business that makes sense? A business that doesn't monopolize all of your time. That requires No: Stocking, Selling or Delivery. No: billing or collections. No: complicated paperwork. No: employees to pay. No: contracts to sign, you can quit any time. There is a one time $29 enrollment. There is never any new money spent after that. If you decide that this business is not for you simply return the business kit within 60 days for a full refund. Tens of thousands of people have been able to make this their full time business in a reasonably short amount of time. This is not "get rich quick." This is a highly reputable company that opened in 1985. I will send you details on this company when you e-mail me for information. God forbid, but if something should happen where you couldn't work or a loved one became ill and you had to stay home to care for them, would you be able to? Would your company keep paying you? Nobody likes to think about these things, but they do happen. And unless you have great insurance you may want to consider this business. You've nothing to lose by asking for information. I'll be happy to send it to you. The fact is, if you are trading time for money your income is temporary, ( even if you own the company.) The average person works from paycheck to paycheck with little or nothing left over to save or invest. This business can help you break the paycheck to paycheck cycle. For information email me at rramsey36@aol.com or rgr@freedomnet.com
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16621873000033@digifix.com> Date: 7 Sep 1997 03:52:35 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8835873604833@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5v4gpj$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5v4gpj$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 09 Sep 1997 21:58:12 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5v4gpj$3ij@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: JOHN EDMONDS<ANYWHERE@USA.COM> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Patrick McGowan" <patmvcr@rogers.wave.ca> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NextStep fdsik wiped my extended dos partition away!!!!!!!!! Date: 10 Sep 1997 01:46:09 GMT Organization: INCO Exploration Message-ID: <01bcbd8c$0f3c1c40$7c327118@patmvcr.ns.bc.rogers.wave.ca> I was trying to load NS3.3 User in a free block on my 2.1G hard drive. The block was sandwiched between the primary DOS partition and the extended DOS partition. When prompted where to install NextStep, there was no option to leave the extended DOS partion alone and just load NS into the free space...it saw everything beyond the primary DOS partition as free space. Instead of just stopping there, i selected the option of leaving some of the "free"space as NextStep the rest for DOS......in the hope that the extended DOS partions might still be there after the install.....well I got cold feet and ditched the install, but when I came back out into the DOD/Windows95 world the extended partions were no longer receognized......ugh Are these partitions lost forever? Is there any way to recover them? I had backed up most of the files a few weeks ago, but a few important files were not. I have not reformatted those sectors of the drive or done anything else since......except look at them in Partition Magic, an interactive partitioning application in DOS. Can I use something from Norton Disk Doctor to find the beginning of my old partitions?...I had a lot af spare space between the original "free" space and my important DOD partitions...it was set aside as swap space for Windows 95. HELP!!!!!
From: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Setting nil objects as values for UI elements...wierd. Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:01:42 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Load Test Message-ID: <5v69gs$3of@lztnsc06.att.com> References: <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> In article <5uj20i$cr9@sjx-ixn9.ix.netcom.com> mtrombin@ix.netcom.com (Mark Trombino) wrote: > In <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> Thomas Engel wrote: > > is it just me or are there other people who consider this as a bug: > > In <5ui9k7$io4$2@concorde.ctp.com> Thomas Engel wrote: > is it just me or are there other people who consider this as a bug: > > [myTextField setStringValue:nil] > > results in an exception...but for a textField I think it might make sense to > resert the content to the state of a freshly created textField. (I don't knwo > from the top of my head...but I think that in this case stringValue really > returns a "nil" which in this case is a value you don't expect since you > can't set it...) > > But: > > [myColorWell setColor:nil] > > works like a charm which IMHO makes absolutly no sense since the color well > will display a colorBackgroundGray "color" (or some random color) and lure > you to believe that the well contains some useful information. > It also acts a little unpredictalble...since sometimes you get some funky > color (say Pantone blue)...but when you drag the swatch it is a black swatch. I think that [myTextField setStringValue:@""] makes more sense than [myTextField setStringValue:nil] but it would be nice if setting a string value to nil had the same effect. I agree with you about the color wells though.... -- |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mark Trombino | J A M S o f t | | mtrombin@ix.netcom.com | Audio DSP Tools for Openstep & Rhapsody | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v69gs$3of@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v69gs$3of@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v69gs$3of@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:01:42 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:47:20 1997 Original subject was: Re: Setting nil objects as values for UI elements...wierd.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: 4.1: Mail.app crashing all the time Date: 10 Sep 1997 20:31:58 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v703u$7jv$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is anyone else having serious problems with 4.1 (mach/intel) and the Mail.app? I'm getting bus errors and other crashes, about 5x daily for the last week or so. I'd like to think that 4.2 would be better, but I don't have $300 to find out. TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: bofh@keltia.freenix.fr (Ollivier Robert) Sender: ltest@rte9-sun_5.5.1 (news_check.py) Message-ID: <cancel.5v6akc$od3@lztnsc06.att.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <5v6akc$od3@lztnsc06.att.com> ignore Control: cancel <5v6akc$od3@lztnsc06.att.com> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 14:20:38 GMT ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Wed Sep 10 17:47:17 1997 Original subject was: Re: GET THE CASH YOU NEED ////////////
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 4.1: Mail.app crashing all the time Date: Thu, 11 Sep 1997 10:07:24 +0200 Organization: Max Plank Institut for Polymer Research Message-ID: <3417A6BC.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5v703u$7jv$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Is anyone else having serious problems with 4.1 (mach/intel) and the > Mail.app? > > I'm getting bus errors and other crashes, about 5x daily for the last week or > so. > > I'd like to think that 4.2 would be better, but I don't have $300 to find > out. > > TjL > Timothy, are you sure that your Mail.app is not loading any additional bundles like enhance-mail (formely from Carl Edman). We had never Problems with 4.1 Mail.app even with one of these bundles. Then check out if all shared libs loaded by Mail.app are ok. Start it from gdb and have a look at everthing loaded by the binary. Hope this helps stefan _____________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G.\ |E-Mail ried @ mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME/NeXT welcome) | |Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 __/___/ | |Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| |WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried \_/ \_/| | There are only three types of computer users: | | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | | Those that don't know what they are missing. | \_____________________________________________________________________/
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 4.1: Mail.app crashing all the time Date: 11 Sep 1997 13:00:46 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5v8q1u$mnr$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5v703u$7jv$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <3417A6BC.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de In <3417A6BC.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Stefan Ried wrote: > are you sure that your Mail.app is not loading any additional bundles > like enhance-mail (formely from Carl Edman). I'm loading these: Colorizer.bundle EnhanceMail.bundle ExtraCommands.bundle Resend.bundle Urlifier.bundle > We had never Problems with 4.1 Mail.app even with one of these bundles. Interesting. > Then check out if all shared libs loaded by Mail.app are ok. How would I know if they are or are not? > Start it from gdb and have a look at everthing loaded by the binary. Will try that. > | There are only three types of computer users: | > | Those that use NeXTs. Those that wished they used NeXTs. | > | Those that don't know what they are missing. | Love it.... TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: simon@planon13.planon.qc.ca (Simon Glet) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSFomatter Date: 11 Sep 1997 14:52:42 GMT Organization: Internet-Login Message-ID: <5v90jq$g32$1@lamb.login.net> Hi, I'm having a big problem with NSFormatter. To format data to appear in a cell of a NSTableView, i subclassed NSFormatter applied it to the desired cell and it works fine for displaying the formatted data. When the user edits the cell and enters a correct value, it's almost impossible to stop editing the content of the cell ! I've searched the Web for some code examples using NSFormatter without success. I'm currently using OS 4.2 for MACH. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Simon Glet
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.announce,comp.sys.newton.marketplace,comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.newton.programmer,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.prime,comp.sys.proteon,comp.sys.psion,comp.sys.psion.announce,comp.sys.psion.apps,comp.sys.psion.comm,comp.sys.psion.marketplace,comp.sys.psion.misc,comp.sys.psion.programmer,comp.sys.psion.reviews,comp.sys.pyramid,comp.sys.ridge,comp.sys.sequent,comp.sys.sgi.admin,comp.sys.sgi.announce,comp.sys.sgi.apps,comp.sys.sgi.audio,comp.sys.sgi.bugs,comp.sys.sgi.graphics,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.marketplace,comp.sys.sgi.misc,comp.sys.sinclair,comp.sys.stratus,comp.sys.sun.admin Subject: cmsg cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Control: cancel <34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Date: 12 Sep 1997 16:33:20 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.34196E66.6C22@profit.com> Sender: Jimmy <jimmybob@profit.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 12 Sep 1997 18:23:22 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, just to warn you. Openstep 4.2 seems to be very optimistic when it comes to NSUserDefaults. If you are logged in on two machines...and two apps happen to synchronize the user defautls storage at exactly the same time...be prepared to lose _all_ your defaults since it might corrupt the file. Since this is not too easy to reproduce we'll leave it to the folks at Apple to check if they are doing any real file locking on write. There might be some "locking" for the synchronize if both apps use the AppKit on one machine...but this approach does not work for multiple machines. Any clarification would be nice. Aloha Tomi
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 12 Sep 1997 22:34:19 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vcg1b$evp@mochi.lava.net> References: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> Since you mentioned a NSUserDefaults problem, I thought that I'd point out another problem (bug?) that has bitten me. The symptom is that only 1 change in default values is saved per execution session. This problem results when a mutable dictionary or array is saved to the defaults database. The initial default values are read in from the database, then the first change is made by setting a mutable object for a key, but subsequent changes *to the contents* of the mutable object are ignored by NSUserDefaults, possibly because of an optimization which compares objects by id rather than by content equality. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 13 Sep 1997 20:13:27 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5ves57$f7i$2@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5vcg1b$evp@mochi.lava.net> arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") wrote: > Since you mentioned a NSUserDefaults problem, I thought that I'd point >out another problem (bug?) that has bitten me. The symptom is that only 1 >change in default values is saved per execution session. > > This problem results when a mutable dictionary or array is saved to the >defaults database. The initial default values are read in from the database, >then the first change is made by setting a mutable object for a key, but >subsequent changes *to the contents* of the mutable object are ignored by >NSUserDefaults, possibly because of an optimization which compares objects by >id rather than by content equality. > While I never thought about this, even without reading the docu I would have expected this to happen. I would have suspected that the NSUserDefaults make their own snapshot of the objects they are suposed to put into the database. So I would have never expected it to keep track of changes in a mutble array. However...your point is valid and IMHo it should be made very clear in the docu of NSUserDefaults what happens to the values which are passed in. Bug or feature...Apple should clarify this. Aloha Tomi
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 14 Sep 1997 00:07:30 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vf9s2$ahr@mochi.lava.net> References: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5vcg1b$evp@mochi.lava.net> <5ves57$f7i$2@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: > I would have suspected that the NSUserDefaults make their own snapshot of the > objects they are suposed to put into the database. So I would have never > expected it to keep track of changes in a mutble array. I expected these changes to be detected because all property list classes implement content-based equality testing (e.g., isEqualToDictionary:), but NSUserDefaults apparently just compares id's (isEqual: or ==) :-( > However...your point is valid and IMHo it should be made very clear in the > docu of NSUserDefaults what happens to the values which are passed in. > > Bug or feature...Apple should clarify this. Bug - either documentation or implementation. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
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From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 14 Sep 1997 10:11:55 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5vgd9b$12p$1@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5vcg1b$evp@mochi.lava.net> <5ves57$f7i$2@concorde.ctp.com> <5vf9s2$ahr@mochi.lava.net> arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") wrote: >tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: > >> I would have suspected that the NSUserDefaults make their own snapshot of >the >> objects they are suposed to put into the database. So I would have never >> expected it to keep track of changes in a mutble array. > > I expected these changes to be detected because all property list classes >implement content-based equality testing (e.g., isEqualToDictionary:), but >NSUserDefaults apparently just compares id's (isEqual: or ==) :-( > Oh...reading it for the second time I now understand. So you are not passing the mutableDictionar just once...change its contents and expect it to get saved. (my first interpretation of your problem) but you do multiple setObject:forKey but always pass the same dictonary object for the same key...but the dict contains different data at each point...and NSUserDefaults does not consider it worth archiving. Ahh.. ok. >> However...your point is valid and IMHo it should be made very clear in the >> docu of NSUserDefaults what happens to the values which are passed in. >> >> Bug or feature...Apple should clarify this. > > Bug - either documentation or implementation. .... definitly a bug.. big bug. Aloha Tomi
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSOpenPanel and long titles. Date: 14 Sep 1997 18:52:11 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5vhbor$api$1@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, maybe this is a known one... but it seems like the NSOpen/SavePanles truncate long titles and don't even care to show that the title has been truncated !? Enlarging the panel will not display the full title even if it now would fit into the window. However...I suspect that it only truncates the title after a blank and not right inside a word. So if you have a reallt long word it might get displayed while two words of the same length might not. I ran into this about 2 month ago (4.2/Intel/Mach/beta) but just happened to remember it today. This has not been verified for 4.2final. Aloha Tomi
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From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NSOpenPanel and long titles. Date: 14 Sep 1997 23:27:55 GMT Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vhrtr$2t3$1@nexus.oic.de> References: <5vhbor$api$1@concorde.ctp.com> In article <5vhbor$api$1@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) writes: > maybe this is a known one... but it seems like the NSOpen/SavePanles truncate > long titles and don't even care to show that the title has been truncated !? > > Enlarging the panel will not display the full title even if it now would fit > into the window. > > However...I suspect that it only truncates the title after a blank and not > right inside a word. So if you have a reallt long word it might get > displayed while two words of the same length might not. > > I ran into this about 2 month ago (4.2/Intel/Mach/beta) but just happened to > remember it today. This has not been verified for 4.2final. It is a bug in the NSBrowser not the Open/Save Panel. NeXT must change the value for NSParagraphStyle (NSAttributedString) from NSLineBreakByWordWrapping (default) to NSLineBreakByTruncatingMiddle or NSLineBreakByClipping. That's all :-). Bye, Juergen
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NSOpenPanel and long titles. Date: 15 Sep 1997 17:36:28 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5vjrms$6cu$1@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5vhbor$api$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5vhrtr$2t3$1@nexus.oic.de> jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) wrote: >It is a bug in the NSBrowser not the Open/Save Panel. NeXT must change the >value for NSParagraphStyle (NSAttributedString) from NSLineBreakByWordWrapping >(default) to NSLineBreakByTruncatingMiddle or NSLineBreakByClipping. That's >all :-). > While you have the smiley in there it still might confuse some people. I was not talking about long filenames in the NSBrowser...but the string you pass to "setTitle:" method which then becomes the title of the NSOpenPanel and shows up in big big bold text on the top. Just to make sure everybody knows what we are talking about. Aloha Tomi
From: indy@pachacuti.is.com (Steve Weintz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 15 Sep 1997 20:14:46 GMT Organization: Integrity Solutions, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> OK, based on several days of shock and experimentation, I've determined that OpenStep/Mach/black 4.1 SimpleNetworkStarter.app doesn't start a simple net out of the box. I performed a clean re-install of 4.1 onto my TurboCube (gryphon) and a clean install of 3.3 on my Cube (blackwatch). I followed the usual routine of launching SNS, giving a hostname, specifying NetInfo, time and mail servers for the TurboCube, and then let 'er rip. A 2-domain NetInfo system was built, with a mythical 'myhost' as the host for the root (/) domain. Since 'myhost' doesn't exist, the network failed (no automatic hostconfig, NFS, ntpd, etc.) I FINALLY solved the problem by adding the alias 'myhost' to the host entry for gryphon, using HostManager. I think the problem may lie in the textfield used to enter the new master NetInfo hostname in SNS. It's as if the textfield didn't really accpt the name I typed in, but just went with the default 'myhost.' -- Steve Weintz * indy@is.com * Graphic Designer, Integrity Solutions, Inc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ When confronted with vastly intelligent, aggressive politics, do something totally irrational and let the enemy think himself to death. -- P. Chanur
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 16 Sep 1997 03:34:29 GMT Organization: none Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vkuo5$cku$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> Steve Weintz wrote: > I think the problem may lie in the textfield used to enter the new master > NetInfo hostname in SNS. It's as if the textfield didn't really accpt the name > I typed in, but just went with the default 'myhost.' I have always found that I need to configure the host using HostManager/NetInfo to have a hostname, etc setup FIRST before using SNS. In fact, SNS once told me that I can't change the hostname with SNS. TjL Note: from Sept 14th through Sept 27th I will be working on ordination exams (like the bar exams, except for ministry). Please understand if my replies are short, slow, or (worst case) none at all. I will try to keep up, but get about 400 emails/day. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: Jochen Richter <jr@sade.schiele-ct.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: New Matrox Driver Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 05:41:49 +0200 Organization: S.a.d.e. Message-ID: <341DFFFD.548D@sade.schiele-ct.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I tried to run the 1800x1440 resolution with the new Matrox Driver (4.05) and a Millenium II (4MB) card. The screen is visible but *distorted*. The other resolutions seem to work fine including 1920x1200. Any comments? -- Jochen Richter SYSTEM analyse design entwicklung (S.a.d.e.) Akademiestrasse 16 Phone: +49-721-9 20 30 90 D-76133 Karlsruhe Fax: +49-721-9 20 30 99 Germany e-mail: jr@Sade.schiele-ct.de
From: arti@lava.DOTnet (Art Isbell - remove "DOT") Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Beware NSUserDefaults Date: 16 Sep 1997 06:30:31 GMT Organization: LavaNet, Inc. Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vl927$bo6@mochi.lava.net> References: <5vc1aq$g4r$1@concorde.ctp.com> <5vcg1b$evp@mochi.lava.net> <5ves57$f7i$2@concorde.ctp.com> <5vf9s2$ahr@mochi.lava.net> <5vgd9b$12p$1@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: > So you are not passing the mutableDictionar just once...change its contents > and expect it to get saved. (my first interpretation of your problem) > but you do multiple setObject:forKey but always pass the same dictonary > object for the same key...but the dict contains different data at each > point...and NSUserDefaults does not consider it worth archiving. That's correct. Took me a while to figure out why multiple setObject:forkey: messages resulted in the saving of only the first change in a few cases but not most cases. Those "few" cases always involved mutable objects. -- Art Isbell NeXT/MIME Mail: arti@lavaDOTnet Trego Systems (for whom I don't speak) Voice/Fax: +1 808 394 0511 OPENSTEP/NT Voice Mail: +1 808 394 0495 managed care solutions US Mail: Honolulu, HI 96825-2638
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 16 Sep 1997 12:58:04 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> <5vkuo5$cku$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > I have always found that I need to configure the host using > HostManager/NetInfo to have a hostname, etc setup FIRST before using SNS. Not quite true. If you stick to the instructions, it works perfectly well. > In fact, SNS once told me that I can't change the hostname with SNS. Now, *changing* the hostname is quite another thing than first time configuration, isn't it? Though this is annoying, there is *no* way to change a hostname but to configure from scratch again. Just changing the hostname will inevitably result in NetInfo inconsistencies. The *only* workaround is a complete nidump, edit the hostname, complete niload. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: jurgen@oic.de (Juergen Moellenhoff) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NSOpenPanel and long titles. Date: 16 Sep 1997 13:44:15 GMT Organization: OIC, Bochum, Germany Distribution: world Message-ID: <5vm2ff$87h$1@nexus.oic.de> References: <5vjrms$6cu$1@concorde.ctp.com> In article <5vjrms$6cu$1@concorde.ctp.com> tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) writes: > I was not talking about long filenames in the NSBrowser...but the string you > pass to "setTitle:" method which then becomes the title of the NSOpenPanel > and shows up in big big bold text on the top. > > Just to make sure everybody knows what we are talking about. Okay... my fault... the description of the bug looks so familiar to me that I thought you meant the NSBrowser-Path (the title of the NSBrowser columns) :-). Hmmm... but try this for the NSSave/OpenPanel: @implementation NSSavePanel (C_NSSavePanel) - (void)setTitleValue:(NSString *)string { #ifndef WIN32 NSRange limitRange; NSMutableAttributedString *attrStr; NSMutableParagraphStyle *paraStyle; #endif [self setTitle:string]; #ifndef WIN32 attrStr = [[[[self contentView] viewWithTag:151] attributedStringValue] mutableCopy]; limitRange = NSMakeRange(0, [attrStr length]); paraStyle = [[NSParagraphStyle defaultParagraphStyle] mutableCopy]; [paraStyle setLineBreakMode:NSLineBreakByCharWrapping]; [attrStr addAttribute:NSParagraphStyleAttributeName value:paraStyle range:limitRange]; [paraStyle release]; [[[self contentView] viewWithTag:151] setAttributedStringValue:attrStr]; [attrStr release]; #endif } @end It it is not perfect and it works only for OpenStep/Mach. It makes not really a difference, because the NSTextField of the NSOpen/SavePanel is to small. Bye, Juergen
From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 17 Sep 1997 09:12:56 GMT Organization: University of =?ISO-8859-1?Q?W=FCrzburg,?= Germany Message-ID: <5vo6uo$dh@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> <5vkuo5$cku$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de In <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > > I have always found that I need to configure the host using > > HostManager/NetInfo to have a hostname, etc setup FIRST before using SNS. > > Not quite true. If you stick to the instructions, it works perfectly well. > > > In fact, SNS once told me that I can't change the hostname with SNS. > > Now, *changing* the hostname is quite another thing than first time > configuration, isn't it? > > Though this is annoying, there is *no* way to change a hostname but to > configure from scratch again. Just changing the hostname will inevitably > result in NetInfo inconsistencies. The *only* workaround is a complete > nidump, edit the hostname, complete niload. Not true. Edit the hostname in /etc/hostconfig. Edit the name in HostManager oder NetInfoManager (the entry that assigns the IP address to your machine's name). Hope this is all, it's been quite a while but I definitely did it several times. ------------------------------------- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...)
From: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de (Thomas Richter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Solstice Network Client 3.1 and NS 3.3 Date: Thu, 18 Sep 1997 11:00:58 GMT Organization: Landesamt fuer archaeologische Denkmalpflege Sachsen-Anhalt Message-ID: <5vr8ma$jv9$3@goof.Germany.EU.net> Has anyone succesful iinstallled Solstice Network Client 3.1 from Sunsoft on Windows 95 (normal version) and a NEXTSTEP 3.3 maschine as pcnfs server. Ping and telnet work. The software fails during the authentication procedure on the nfs server (NEXT Cube with NS 3.3 and installed patch, on an IBM RS/6000 with AIX 3.2.5 too) with the error message "invalid user account or password". It´s is possible to compile (with minor changes of the code) and install the pcnfs daemon from the installation CD, but with the new daemon on the server it´s impossible from the client to find the authentication server, so it´s no help to use the new compiled rpc.pcnfsd. NEXTSTEP-Clients have no problems with the default and the new compiled daemon. Thanks for any help Thomas Thomas Richter Landesamt fuer Archaeologie Sachsen-Anhalt Richard-Wagner-Strasse 9-10 06114 Halle (Saale) email: EDV@lfa.hal.eunet.de
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 19 Sep 1997 00:41:01 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5vshmt$1a0@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> <5vkuo5$cku$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5vo6uo$dh@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= wrote: > In <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe wrote: > > Though this is annoying, there is *no* way to change a hostname but to > > configure from scratch again. Just changing the hostname will inevitably > > result in NetInfo inconsistencies. The *only* workaround is a complete > > nidump, edit the hostname, complete niload. > > Not true. Edit the hostname in /etc/hostconfig. Edit the name > in HostManager oder NetInfoManager (the entry that assigns the > IP address to your machine's name). > > Hope this is all, it's been quite a while but I definitely did it several > times. And every time you corrupted your NetInfo database, obviously without even realizing it... NeXT explicitly forbids this way of doing it (somewhere in the SysAdmin manual, don't remember right now...), and with good reason. Since NEXTTOYOU's MailTIFFs database programs depend on a non-corrupt NetInfo database, I had a first-hand chance to realize *how many* NEXTSTEP users are working with a corrupted NetInfo... :-( Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: goforit@savetrees.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: What if . . . Date: 16 Sep 1997 04:23:29 GMT Organization: The Alliance Message-ID: <5vl1k1$nn9$521@news.insnet.com> Ten years ago, you could have bought 36 shares of Microsoft for 28.01 per share. That $1,008.36 would be $198,126.00 now. What if you had another chance to invest in a company with that much potential? If you leave your email at "http://theprofitcenter.net/stock" you could get the chance to consider an Internet investment with tremendous potential.
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5vl1k1$nn9$521@news.insnet.com> Control: cancel <5vl1k1$nn9$521@news.insnet.com> Date: 19 Sep 1997 09:16:19 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5vl1k1$nn9$521@news.insnet.com> Sender: goforit@savetrees.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Help ! Apache 1.2.4 problems. Date: 19 Sep 1997 17:17:45 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5vuc3q$qoc@crcnis3.unl.edu> Using a M/T NextStation, Next Step 3.3 Last night, I downloaded Apache 1.2.4 from next-ftp.peak.org. Anyways... I am currently running it from root, and have not yet put it in rc.local(as suggested in the docs) httpd is running as nobody, group -2(I think) On occasion, logging out from console causes the system to hang. All windows go away, but the Dock remains. Clicking on the Dock does nothing. Pressing the "power" button brings up the "Do you want to..." dialog box, but clicking on "yes" does nothing. a hard reboot is nessecary. This has happend for both root and my normal user account. When I log into my normal user account, BackSpace ( /NextDeveloper/Demos/BackSpace.app ) does not do anything. It seems to be running, but is non-responsive(spinning cursor) and it displays nothing(it is set to run as a background window.) These problems go away when httpd is not running. The httpd program seems to work fine serving up pages and stuff... but this is just irritating. TIA, Josh Hesse -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted.
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help ! Apache 1.2.4 problems. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 19 Sep 1997 20:07:21 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5vum1p$qua@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5vuc3q$qoc@crcnis3.unl.edu> After doing some more checking, the console doesn't actually hang, it just takes a *REALLY* long time to get back to the login screen. : : On occasion, logging out from console causes the system to hang. : All windows go away, but the Dock remains. Clicking on the Dock : does nothing. Pressing the "power" button brings up the "Do you : want to..." dialog box, but clicking on "yes" does nothing. a : hard reboot is nessecary. : This has happend for both root and my normal user account. : -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted.
From: 00093182@bigred.unl.edu (Josh Hesse) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help ! Apache 1.2.4 problems. Followup-To: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Date: 19 Sep 1997 21:09:01 GMT Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln Message-ID: <5vupld$r0c@crcnis3.unl.edu> References: <5vuc3q$qoc@crcnis3.unl.edu> Josh Hesse (00093182@bigred.unl.edu) wrote: : : I am currently running it from root, and have not yet put it in : rc.local(as suggested in the docs) ...and as it turns out, I should have done this anyway after I found out that it would run. Something doesn't like it when root logs out. Problem solved, case closed, thanks for your time, shouldn't have screamed to usenet so fast... -Josh -- Do not send mail to this account. Really. "Talk about silly conspiracy theories..." -Wayne Schlitt in unl.general This post (C)1997, Josh Hesse. Quoted material is (C) of the person quoted.
From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: Help ! Apache 1.2.4 problems. Date: 20 Sep 1997 04:13:34 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <5vvihe$s1u$18@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5vuc3q$qoc@crcnis3.unl.edu> <5vupld$r0c@crcnis3.unl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <insert regular gripe about crossposting within csn.*, and not setting followups> The hanging of a reboot/logout is usually the sign of a process that won't die. Glad you've got it worked out. -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
From: "Œ“@" <rgravitt@macconnect.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Help with 040 station Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 00:29:12 -0500 Organization: ww.macaddict.com Message-ID: <34235F28.650D@macconnect.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recently purchased a color 040 next station with no ram or hard drive. I t came with a color 17" fimi monitor. I tried to boot to make sure it was functional, (using 4 16meg simms) and I get a garbled test screen. What is wrong?
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <6015ak$8b4599@volta.nmhu.edu> Control: cancel <6015ak$8b4599@volta.nmhu.edu> Date: 20 Sep 1997 19:54:18 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6015ak$8b4599@volta.nmhu.edu> Sender: Andy<ss21@usa.net> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9488874209621@digifix.com> Date: 21 Sep 1997 03:49:30 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <6026gk$lud@new1.sundial.net> Control: cancel <6026gk$lud@new1.sundial.net> Date: 21 Sep 1997 04:10:39 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.6026gk$lud@new1.sundial.net> Sender: SEX APPEAL INSTANTLY<jason@compuserve.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: nospam@all.please (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail.app crashes (it's gotta be 4.1) Date: 23 Sep 1997 01:58:36 GMT Organization: none Message-ID: <6077oc$9oa$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I even tried the 4.2 Mail.app under 4.1, and it still crashes all the time... it's getting to be the same ol story. Double click on a mailbox and see: Mail[16185]: objc: FREED(id): message getSelectedCells: sent to freed object=0x9699b4 TjL -- I'm sick of SPAM. Therefore, my email address is invalid. To email me, use one of these without spaces: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org (for NeXT related stuff) luomat + peak @ luomat.peak.org (for PEAK related stuff)
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From: "Lee Byeong-ho" <bhlee@cnt.co.kr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: WOFrames not recognized by Netscape browsers Date: 25 Sep 1997 00:32:33 GMT Organization: HanQ.Net Message-ID: <01bcc94a$6f0da7a0$68a67fd2@dooly> References: <5urlke$16no@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> I have exprienced that too. atl2@lehigh.eduÀÌ(°¡) <5urlke$16no@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> ±â»ç¿¡¼ ÀÛ¼ºÇß½À´Ï´Ù... > The subject says it. Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone know > a workaround? The matter has some urgency... > > Alex > > -- > Alexander Levine > Philosophy Department > Lehigh University > ATL2@lehigh.edu >
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: SNS fails to create usable network Date: 23 Sep 1997 17:53:43 GMT Organization: computerActive Inc. Message-ID: <608vn7$qgu@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> References: <5vk4vm$iq7@medusa.is.com> <5vkuo5$cku$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5vlvos$11p@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> <5vo6uo$dh@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> <5vshmt$1a0@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Uli Zappe (uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de) wrote: : rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Frohnh=F6fer)?= : wrote: : > Not true. Edit the hostname in /etc/hostconfig. Edit the name : > in HostManager oder NetInfoManager (the entry that assigns the : > IP address to your machine's name). : > : > Hope this is all, it's been quite a while but I definitely did it several : > times. : And every time you corrupted your NetInfo database, obviously without even : realizing it... : NeXT explicitly forbids this way of doing it (somewhere in the SysAdmin : manual, don't remember right now...), and with good reason. It doesn't mean that you can't fix your netinfo database. The local domain should not even contain the local machine's hostname, except perhaps in the /machines directory (which can be changed at the same time you edit /etc/hostconfig). If you're changing the name in a two-level or larger netinfo domain, then you also have to fix things like "serves" properties in all the relevant levels. I've done this before with no problem. --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12335874814429@digifix.com> Date: 28 Sep 1997 03:48:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <27562875419231@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <60m67k$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <60m67k$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Date: 28 Sep 1997 18:04:37 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60m67k$4th@mtinsc03.worldnet.att.net> Sender: DHEA SEX LIKE 18<hart@sunbell.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <60m8se$4te@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <60m8se$4te@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Date: 28 Sep 1997 18:49:52 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60m8se$4te@bgtnsc02.worldnet.att.net> Sender: Virtual Storefronts<webmaster@virtualstorefronts.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu (Robert C. Doss Jr.) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Problem with netinet/in.h Date: 28 Sep 1997 22:41:50 GMT Organization: California State University, Sacramento Message-ID: <60mmfe$imc@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> I've noticed that whenever I try to do "#include <netinet/in.h>" in my programs, I get the following error messages: /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:120: undefined type, found `u_char' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:121: undefined type, found `u_short' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:122: undefined type, found `u_long' /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:191: undefined type, found `u_short' This happens on both NS 3.3 and OS 4.1 machines. Is this a bug or is it something I'm doing wrong? -- Robert C. Doss, Jr. California State University, Sacramento <dossr@csus.edu> <http://gaia.ecs.csus.edu/~dossr> Facsimile: (707) 253-3063
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <60j2bl$eot$4014@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Control: cancel <60j2bl$eot$4014@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Date: 29 Sep 1997 00:09:31 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.60j2bl$eot$4014@news.mco.bellsouth.net> Sender: ATTRACT MORE WOMEN<hiert@star.com> Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: spamcancel@wupper.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <342f99b6.0@news.inreach.com> Control: cancel <342f99b6.0@news.inreach.com> Date: 29 Sep 1997 13:07:41 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.342f99b6.0@news.inreach.com> Sender: 39ejkdkd@alkfjasdjfasd.com Excessive Multi-Posted spam article exceeding a BI of 20 cancelled by spamcancel@wupper.com. From was: 39ejkdkd@alkfjasdjfasd.com Subject was: CD-R's at Great Price NNTP-Posting-Host was: ppp10134.la.inreach.net
From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Problem with netinet/in.h Date: 29 Sep 1997 15:13:46 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <60ogja$i3s$1@news.seicom.net> References: <60mmfe$imc@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: dossr@ecs.ecs.csus.edu In <60mmfe$imc@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Robert C. Doss Jr. wrote: > I've noticed that whenever I try to do "#include <netinet/in.h>" in my > programs, I get the following error messages: > > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:120: undefined type, found `u_char' > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:121: undefined type, found `u_short' > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:122: undefined type, found `u_long' > /NextDeveloper/Headers/bsd/netinet/in.h:191: undefined type, found `u_short' > > This happens on both NS 3.3 and OS 4.1 machines. Is this a bug or is it > something I'm doing wrong? > > Try #include <sys/types.h> or typedef unsigned char u_char; typedef unsigned short u_short; typedef unsigned int u_int; typedef unsigned long u_long; typedef unsigned short ushort; -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
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