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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Help concerning Openstep 4.1 mach Intel lookupd with YP needed Date: 31 Jul 1997 00:53:37 GMT Organization: @Home Networks Message-ID: <5ronmh$gfi$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5rn7ju$1qc@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Please do not crosspost within the csn.* hierarchy. You really aren't reaching all that many more people. Crossposts to csn.misc are by definition wrong because csn.misc is for messages which do not fit anywhere else, and are, therefore, miscellaneous. TjL
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From: bozaque <bozack@underwear.insync.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Problems with balance in SB16 driver Date: 1 Aug 1997 21:36:41 GMT Organization: Insync Internet Services Message-ID: <5rtkt9$8vm$1@synthemesc.insync.net> I'm having a spot of trouble with the SB16 driver under OPENSTEP 4.1 for Intel. I've installed the SB16 driver (I have an old SB16 ASP) and the only problem I have is with the balance. The slider is directly in the center. After booting, the slider is still in the center, but the sound only comes out of the right channel. If I move the slider over to the left and back over to the center, sound then comes out of both channels. Is there a fix for this? It isn't too bothersome since I only have to do this once every boot and I usually have an uptime of over a month. Dan
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <2376869976046@digifix.com> Date: 3 Aug 1997 03:53:39 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: Michel Henriot <henriot@lps.u-psud.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: __declspec(dllexport) __stdcall compiler bug with Openstep for windows Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 18:46:03 +0200 Organization: Universite Paris-Sud, France. Message-ID: <33E6074B.51EB57AB@lps.u-psud.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <HTML> Hi, <P>Is there anyone who knows how to bypass the compiler bug reported as number 69194 with Openstep 4.1 for windows NT ? <BR>This bug concerns the <B>__declspec(dllexport) __stdcall</B> function declaration which doesn't work. <P>I want to program an imaging board with Openstep for windows NT. Included with the board, are a library (a static and a dynamic one) written for borland C++ and Visual C++ and some headers files which contains all the declarations of the functions used in the compiled library. And these functions are declared as <B>__declspec(dllexport) __stdcall.</B><B></B> <P>Thanks for your help.</HTML>
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <9060870580820@digifix.com> Date: 10 Aug 1997 03:53:41 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <446871185624@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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From: hhoff@ragnarok.en.REMOVETHIS.eunet.de (Holger Hoffstaette) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bogus behaviour with NSArray>indexOfObject: (4.2) Date: 10 Aug 1997 15:32:02 GMT Organization: Far Out Labs, Inc. Message-ID: <5skmti$et@ragnarok.en.eunet.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NSArray has methods to find the first object either equal or identical to the methods' argument: - (unsigned)indexOfObject: (id)anObject - (unsigned)indexOfObjectIdenticalTo: (id)anObject The -identicalTo: method works fine. The problem seems to be with -indexOfObject. Consider the following program: #import <Foundation/Foundation.h> int main (int argc, const char *argv[]) { NSAutoreleasePool* pool; NSMutableArray* a; NSDictionary* d; pool = [[NSAutoreleasePool alloc] init]; a = [NSMutableArray array]; d = [NSDictionary dictionaryWithObject: @"b" forKey: @"a"]; [a addObject: [d mutableCopy]]; [a addObject: d]; // this will say YES! NSLog(@"#0 isEqual: #1: %d", [[a objectAtIndex: 0] isEqual: [a objectAtIndex: 1]]); // this will answer 1 - ignoring the first object! NSLog(@"indexObject: '%d'", [a indexOfObject: d]); [pool release]; exit(0); // insure the process exit status is 0 return 0; // ...and make main fit the ANSI spec. } When run, the program will say: Aug 10 16:20:15 NSArray+accessing[1271] #0 isEqual: #1: 1 Aug 10 16:20:15 NSArray+accessing[1271] indexObject: '1' So, although both objects in the array are equal by value, the first element will be ignored. It seems that there is a difference between what the documentation says and how the implementation works. According to the docs, -indexOfObject: will try pointer-equality first, and then value-equality. Unfortunately, it seem that the first step is applied to the whole array, skipping over objects that would satisfy value-equality. Unfortunatley, this behaviour makes the -indexOfObject method behave just like -indexOfObjectIdenticalTo: - I consider this to be a pretty amazing bug. It might be the cause for a lot of problems in WOF and EOF. Will this be fixed in upcoming versions of Foundation? (DR1?) Holger -- holger"at"ragnarok.en.eunet.de (NeXTMail, MIME) 'Where I come from it's important to develop stuff that doesn't suck.' -- David Young <dwy"at"ace.net>
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From: Norbert Heger <bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Bogus behaviour with NSArray>indexOfObject: (4.2) Date: 14 Aug 1997 10:10:35 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Message-ID: <5sulir$ip6@news.kom.tuwien.ac.at> References: <5sr64v$2ga@saturn.genoa.com> Originator: bertl@cray Alex Blakemore <alex@genoa.com> writes > I don't have access at the moment to the latest Apple Foundation > documentation, so its possible that they changed the semantics. They did! The original OpenStep specification says: This method checks the elements in the array _from last to first_ by sending them an isEqual: message. But the 4.2 Foundation documentation now says: Searches the receiver for anObject and returns _the lowest index_ whose corresponding array value is equal to anObject - N.C. ____________________________________________________________________ Norbert C. Heger, ObjectiveD, Austria NeXT/OPENSTEP Software Development E-mail: bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at, NeXTmail & MIME welcome Web: http://www.ObjectiveD.co.at/ObjectiveD PGP Public Key: finger bertl@hal.kph.tuwien.ac.at
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From: szallies@energotec.de (Constantin Szallies) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Telnet/Ftp of Death Date: 15 Aug 1997 11:23:32 GMT Organization: Technet GmbH Message-ID: <5t1e7k$q08$1@oxygen.technet.net> We examined the following behavior on boxes running Openstep 4.1/Intel. Can anyone confirm this?? Start a Telnet / Ftp connection from some other computer to some Intel box running Openstep 4.1. The Openstep box gets a kernel panic after a couple of seconds if: 1) The other computer is in the same subnet. 2) There's no hostname entry in the local or global netinfo database for the other computer. We can reproduce this with different hardware. Greetings -- # Constantin Szallies, Energotec GmbH # szallies@energotec.de # 49211-9144018
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From: Alex Blakemore <alex@genoa.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSArray makeObjectsPerformSelector: traversal order wrong Date: 16 Aug 1997 01:47:15 GMT Organization: Genoa Software Systems Message-ID: <5t30r3$uq@saturn.genoa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The NS4.2 documentation states that makeObjectsPerformSelector: traverses the array in reverse (highest index down to zero). The 4.2 implementation actually traverses the array in forward order (from zero to highest index) Its been reported to Apple. -- Alex Blakemore alex@genoa.com NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail accepted
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <446871185624@digifix.com> Date: 17 Aug 1997 03:53:43 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. 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From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Boot sometimes hang with black screen Date: 17 Aug 1997 14:33:45 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Message-ID: <5t724a$l1q$1@dropit.pgh.net> This is on a NeXT Cube. Sometimes, even after a normal power down, an attempt to reboot will leave the screen dark and the boot will hang part way through. With the screen dark it is impossible to say where it is hanging. I have to pull the plug and start over. Is there anything I can do about this? ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences. -- P.J. O'Rourke
From: jcr@idiom.com (John C. Randolph) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NSArray makeObjectsPerformSelector: traversal order wrong Date: 17 Aug 1997 00:35:04 -0700 Organization: Idiom Communications Message-ID: <5t69j8$cfh@idiom.com> References: <5t30r3$uq@saturn.genoa.com> Alex Blakemore <alex@genoa.com> writes: >The NS4.2 documentation states that makeObjectsPerformSelector: traverses >the array in reverse (highest index down to zero). The 4.2 implementation >actually traverses the array in forward order (from zero to highest index) >Its been reported to Apple. The workaround's easy enough though, just get the enumerator. I use makeObjectsPerformSelector: when I don't care what order they get the messages. In fact, I'd like in the future to be able to use this method and have each of the objects perform the selector in a different thread on a different processor. -jcr
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5t7hot$t8s4997@ren.usr.com> Control: cancel <5t7hot$t8s4997@ren.usr.com> Date: 17 Aug 1997 19:16:37 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t7hot$t8s4997@ren.usr.com> Sender: nisloohcs@retniw.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: MIME problem Date: 12 Aug 1997 16:45:23 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5sq3v3$rum$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bug_next@next.com,mailapp-utilities@basil.icce.rug.nl The message below arrived on my machine and my procmail log said: appnmail: message is not in UNIX mailbox format procmail: Program failure (1) of "appnmail" I tried to read the message and was told: [MimeMessage Warning: Missing terminating boundary of MIME multipart message] I'm not sure whose bug it is. Please help! The email addresses below have been changed to avoid the slugs of the Internet. Received: from euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (name@euclid.skiles.gatech.edu [130.207.146.50]) by peak.org (8.8.5/8.6.7) with ESMTP id JAA02792 for <myemail@peak.org>; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 09:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from list@localhost) by euclid.skiles.gatech.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA27314; Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 12:26:03 -0400 (EDT) X-URL: http://ghidora.uwyo.edu/~harres Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 10:15:01 -0600 From: "John M. Smith" <xxx@xxx.xxxx> Subject: Re: weird zsh startup behavior In-reply-to: "Your message of Sun, 10 Aug 1997 00:30:09 PDT." <19970810003009.13551@molehill.org> To: zsh-list Message-id: <199708121615.KAA06836@ghidora.uwyo.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 Content-type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-458791479P"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <"jTcyN3.0.lg6.Rw8yp"@euclid> X-Mailing-List: <zsh-workers@math.gatech.edu> archive/latest/3441 Precedence: list --==_Exmh_-458791479P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [ body snipped ] --==_Exmh_-458791479P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQB1AwUBM/CMBAxlFYvtP/ENAQEm5wL/TTMvHeeYqi1Hx5Vt9bqGJH87WA987o7a 7I4DmW6mEdmzlLlvISGYY1i0SD1JBkPb8Si2jqLjPRGyO2Z1Y+H+mhzAqAkHVPIV 7fIZMMQocpexowgQwdzGW7874UW6P6Y8 =7UZQ -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --==_Exmh_-458791479P--
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5t9e5l$5qn5229@ren.usr.com> Control: cancel <5t9e5l$5qn5229@ren.usr.com> Date: 18 Aug 1997 13:37:40 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5t9e5l$5qn5229@ren.usr.com> Sender: Competitive@intelligence.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSIamge imageNamed: problem Date: 18 Aug 1997 17:05:30 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5t9vcq$f4j$2@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, in order to keep you from leaking lots of images here is a short note: If you do: [NSImage imageNamed:@"FBAuthorIcon.tiff"] you will receive a new instance with the iamge name "FBAuthorIcon" However...the next time you do [NSImage imageNamed:@"FBAuthorIcon.tiff"] You get yet another instance of this image instead of receiving the same image like before. This is because the iamgeNamed method does not check for the shortend version of the name...which looks like a bug and will cause you to constanly leak images since every instance will be registered in the internal table. However..when doing the same with [NSImage imageNamed:@"FBAuthorIcon"] your code will be fine. There are some other strange things with imageNamed and setName which we can't explain yet...but we will let you know once we find out. A related bug report will be filed to Apple. Aloha Tomi This is a trace from GDB which shows the problem. (gdb) po [NSImage imageNamed:@"FBAuthorIcon.tiff"] NSImage 0x3f96a0 Name=FBAuthorIcon Size={width = 48; height = 48} Reps=( NSBitmapImageRep 0x3b7ccc Size={width = 48; height = 48} ColorSpace=NSCalibratedRGBColorSpace BPS=8 Pixels=48x48 Alpha=YES ) (gdb) po [0x3f96a0 name] FBAuthorIcon (gdb) po [NSImage imageNamed:@"FBAuthorIcon.tiff"] NSImage 0x2cdd98 Size={width = 48; height = 48} Reps=( NSBitmapImageRep 0x3286a4 Size={width = 48; height = 48} ColorSpace=NSCalibratedRGBColorSpace BPS=8 Pixels=48x48 Alpha=YES )
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: EOEditingContext and insertion behavior ?? Date: 18 Aug 1997 21:40:54 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tafh6$jsp$3@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, is there any good reason why the following code raises no exception or really works at all ?? [[myEO editingContext] insertObject:myEO]; myEO is on of the objects which just have been taken from a fresh database fetch. I consider this to be a bug (even a really serious one since this did cost me lots of hours to trace down..arrgl) insertObject should never ever allow inserting an object which already is inside the editing context. Unless you can convince me that this behavior is a feature I will send the bugreport out to Apple. Aloha Tomi P.S. Seen and varified on OpenStep 4.2/mach/Intel + EOF 2.1
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <190897183900@email-now4.com> Control: cancel <190897183900@email-now4.com> Date: 19 Aug 1997 22:49:47 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.190897183900@email-now4.com> Sender: "SPECIAL !!!" special@email-now4.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: mailservice@bulkmail.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Do you like to receive $2 million ? Date: Sun, 17 Aug 1997 03:38:33 Organization: World Online Message-ID: <5t5kn6$53r$8331@news.worldonline.nl> Hello Reader, Would you be interested in..... * receiving money by snail mail from all over the world? * in terms of MILLIONS, starting with $2 million ? * magic hands who create your financial future? Look at mailto:mm5413@persnet.com You'll be very - very - sorry if you don't!
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <33fb85ca.0@news.inreach.com> Control: cancel <33fb85ca.0@news.inreach.com> Date: 21 Aug 1997 00:05:20 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.33fb85ca.0@news.inreach.com> Sender: asdofo9@asoifudasf.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: "Scott E. Snyder" <natural1@slip.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.sgi,admin,comp.sys.sgi.misc,.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: System for Sale Date: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 05:35:16 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <33FAE484.1CFB@slip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am selling my WebForce Indy: Asking $3000.00 obo CONTACT: SCOTT SNYDER 510-843-5372 E-MAIL: natural1@slip.net the system has NFS and Photoshop and Illustrator.. 32 Mbytes of Ram 1 gig internal IndyCam specs: Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 4.1.0 1 133 MHZ IP22 Processor FPU: MIPS R4600 Floating Point Coprocessor Revision: 2.0 CPU: MIPS R4600 Processor Chip Revision: 2.0 On-board serial ports: 2 On-board bi-directional parallel port Data cache size: 16 Kbytes Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 512 Kbytes on Processor 0 Main memory size: 32 Mbytes Vino video: unit 0, revision 0, IndyCam connected Integral ISDN: Basic Rate Interface unit 0, revision 1.0 Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1 Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93B, revision D Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0 Graphics board: Indy 24-bit -- Scott E. Snyder Highly Graphic, Inc. Website: http://www.slip.net/~natural1 E-mail: natural1@slip.net Voice: 510.843.5372
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5tanbg$bgi$71@e3000.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5tanbg$bgi$71@e3000.supernews.com> Date: 21 Aug 1997 00:50:10 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.5tanbg$bgi$71@e3000.supernews.com> Sender: Kumadisc1@aol.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
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From: Joakim Eriksson <mysteryx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Help: WWW page and GCC Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:55:29 +0100 Organization: none Message-ID: <33FC48D1.30F1@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does any one got some good page to find all the securety holes/ patches / exploite codes for nextstep?. Another thing is that we got nextstep in our school and we cant use gcc or cc.. it there som other command to compile c files or..
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Help: WWW page and GCC Date: 21 Aug 1997 17:59:08 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5thvlc$an8$5@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <33FC48D1.30F1@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: mysteryx@hotmail.com,postmaster@telia.com In <33FC48D1.30F1@hotmail.com> Joakim Eriksson wrote: > Does any one got some good page to find all the securety holes/ patches > / exploite codes for nextstep?. Hrm... looking to hack a machine, eh? Shall I contact the admin @telia.com and ask them to help you with your inquiries? Or contact the admin @hotmail to see if this is a real address or a forgery? > Another thing is that we got nextstep in our school and we cant use gcc > or cc.. it there som other command to compile c files or.. Ask your admin. The nice thing about NeXTStep is that the usual hacks don't work. I doubt you'll have a whole lot of success at it, and if you do the 'telia.com' folks will have the record of this post. Here are the headers, telia.com folk: Subject: Help: WWW page and GCC From: mysteryx@hotmail.com (Joakim Eriksson) Date: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 14:55:29 +0100 Organization: none Message-ID: <33FC48D1.30F1@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Reply-To: mysteryx@hotmail.com Path: news.rdc1.nj.home.com!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!howland.erols.net!infeed1.internetmci.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!194.22.194.4!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed2.telia.com!d2o61.telia.com!t2o2p14.telia.com Xref: news.rdc1.nj.home.com comp.sys.next.bugs:303 Lines: 5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: d2o61.telia.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: t2o2p14.telia.com On the off chance that this was a valid inquiry, my apologies. All the spam-fighting has made me suspect the worst. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: kahogan@hera.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Kevin A. Hogan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Help: WWW page and GCC Date: 21 Aug 1997 20:01:41 GMT Organization: The Group W Bench Message-ID: <5ti6r5$t8e@agate.berkeley.edu> References: <33FC48D1.30F1@hotmail.com> <5thvlc$an8$5@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com> In article <5thvlc$an8$5@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <nospam+next@luomat.peak.org> wrote: >Hrm... looking to hack a machine, eh? > >Shall I contact the admin @telia.com and ask them to help you with your >inquiries? If this person is from the "telia.com" domain, the admins there may indeed help him out, but not necessarily in the way that you intended. This summer, breakin/cracking attempts on UC Berkeley computers from telia.com became _so_ numerous that campus network admins decided to filter out _all_ packets from our net to theirs (something which had never before been done for any other domain, I believe). Part of what led them to this decision was the fact that there was absolutely _no_ response from telia.com admins to numerous complaints about the serious cracking activity coming from their site . . . the place would seem to be a haven for crackers. -- Kevin -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kevin Hogan khogan@adobe.COM (408) 275-9140
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <13779871790424@digifix.com> Date: 24 Aug 1997 03:53:23 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10179872395226@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. 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Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <224395071234.9092697369@s.com> Control: cancel <224395071234.9092697369@s.com> Date: 24 Aug 1997 09:04:35 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: <cancel.224395071234.9092697369@s.com> Sender: g@s.com Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: This should be simple (2)....yes..its odd....but it's propably a NSImage docu bug ! Date: 24 Aug 1997 16:40:10 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tpo5a$8lu$1@concorde.ctp.com> References: <5toitg$5ko@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> <5tpavi$489$2@concorde.ctp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Following up to my own posting... tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) wrote: >I might be mistake on this one...but > > NSArray *fileTypes = [NSArray arrayWithObject:@"LogOn"]; > >usually should be a nil terminated array (IMHO pretty odd anway...but look at >the defintion of NSImage imageFileTypes...it explicitly returns a nil >termniated array) I already received some "advice" in our office that the final "nil" is just there, since we have variable parameters on the [NSArray arrayWithObjects: ...] method. Yeap...I know that. And as I said...to me it makes sense to have the "nil" in the "arrayWithObjects" method...but there is no way to put a "nil" into an NSArray...so the whole thing really seems a little odd given the "quote" which I provided below. So since I already got "bashed" for that one, here comes the orignial piece of docu that I was reffering to: >--- NSImage imageUnfilteredFileTypes + (NSArray *)imageUnfilteredFileTypes Returns a null-terminated array of strings representing those file types for which a registered NSImageRep exists. This list consists of all file types supported by registered subclasses of NSImageRep, and doesn't include those types that can be converted to supported file types through a user-installed filter service. The array returned by this method may be passed directly to the NSOpenPanel's runModalForTypes: method. See also: + imageFileTypes <----- See that "null-terminated" phrase!? This definitly seems like a docu-bug to me...but being burned by the OpenPanel of 4.1 I did not necessarily outrule the possibility of this being a problem in the original posters case. But as Georg propably already posted by now the original problem is more likely related to the "setTreatsFilePackagesAsDirectories" method. And here IMHO we have reached another "docu" problem since it is not properly documented what the default value/behavior of a freshly created "NSOpen/SavePanel" will be. "treatsFilePackagesAsDirectories" should say "Returns YES/NO? for a freshly created instance of NSSavePanel". Aloha Tomi
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSTextStorage wierdness ?? Date: 24 Aug 1997 18:15:28 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tpto0$aap$2@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, while working on my documentation tool for the MiscKit I ran into this somewhat strange problem (which I consider a "bug" in NeXTs text system) Originally my code looked similar to this one (useless stuff removed for the posting): - (BOOL)_openFile:(NSString *)filename { id newText; id newStorage; id ourLayoutManager = [[textView textContainer] layoutManager]; newText = [NSString stringWithContentsOfFile:filename]; newStorage = [[NSTextStorage alloc] initWithString:newText]; // Do I have to unregister the "reused" layoutManager ?? It should // take care of necessary cleanups when getting reassigned to a // new storage..shouldn't it ? [newStorage addLayoutManager:ourLayoutManager]; } Please notic the "initWithString:" which is valid initMethod for a textStorage since after the init the storage really shows the correct "string" value when you ask for it. However....This simply crashed on me once the NSTextView had to redisplay itself for the first time. The stack showed something deep inside the NSLayoutManagers internals (NSPrivate) category: #0 0x0 in ?? () #1 0x601362e in -[NSTypesetter layoutGlyphsInLayoutManager:startingAtGlyphIndex:maxNumberOfLineFragments:nextGlyphIn dex:] () #2 0x601b046 in -[NSLayoutManager(NSPrivate) _fillLayoutHoleAtIndex:desiredNumberOfLines:] () #3 0x6202bfe in _NSFastFillAllLayoutHolesUpToGlyphIndex () #4 0x604d289 in -[NSLayoutManager(NSPrivate) _firstPassGlyphRangeForBoundingRect:inTextContainer:okToFillHoles:] () #5 0x604d5df in -[NSLayoutManager(NSPrivate) _glyphRangeForBoundingRect:inTextContainer:fast:okToFillHoles:] () #6 0x60c8dfc in -[NSLayoutManager glyphRangeForBoundingRect:inTextContainer:] () #7 0x60346f6 in -[NSTextView drawRect:] () #....... Looking at all the example sources I found, that in some places a different way of "initializing" the NSTextStorage is used. So I tried it like that: - (BOOL)_openFile:(NSString *)filename { id newText; id newStorage; id ourLayoutManager = [[textView textContainer] layoutManager]; newText = [NSString stringWithContentsOfFile:filename]; newStorage = [[NSTextStorage alloc] init]; [newStorage addLayoutManager:ourLayoutManager]; [newStorage beginEditing]; [[newStorage mutableString] setString:newText]; [newStorage endEditing]; } Notice that I now create an empty text storage and after assigning it to the layout manager I set the string value of the textStorage. This magically works. Did I miss something or is this really a bug like I suspect ? Aloha Tomi
From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: dion@datastarcomputers.com ((Trekkie@NCC1701)) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <377af9b6.16380145@news.greenvillenc.com> Control: cancel <377af9b6.16380145@news.greenvillenc.com> Date: 12 Aug 1997 17:39:56 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.377af9b6.16380145@news.greenvillenc.com> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail.app crashing a lot (Mach/4.1/Intel) Date: 26 Aug 1997 06:00:17 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5ttrdh$h04$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone else had Mail.app crash on them a lot with this message: Mail[4033]: objc: FREED(id): message getSelectedCells: sent to freed object=0x544d9c Any chance 4.2 is better than 4.1 on this? It's crashing about once a day, usually when I 'command-n' for a new compose window, but other times when I open a mailbox, or when I blink wrong. It's not reproducable on demand, or I'd run it under gdb and see if I got anything better. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: tsengel@immd9.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Thomas Engel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NSTextStorage acting wierd on "fixing" attributes Date: 26 Aug 1997 09:37:51 GMT Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners, Inc. Message-ID: <5tu85f$o7n$2@concorde.ctp.com> Hi, I currently have no detailed bug description or workaround, but I just wanted to inofrm you that there is something fishy going on when a NSTextStorage tries to "fix" its attribute ranges. I have the following text ... @end @protocol ... And I perform a markup on the keywords of the source file. Both keyowrds "@end" and "@protocol" are marked up in a similar way with the same color an style. NSTextStorage tries to combine both ranges (something I have to turn off later since I don't want that) but thereby fails. The last chars of the "protocol" keyword have still the original color and the number of trailing chars which don't get changed is exactly the number of whitespaces and newlines between both keywords. Did I run into a known bug ? If I test my markup on a text like this: .... @end // Some comment here @protocol .... everything works just perfectly. I will post another note as soon as I have come around debugging that strange thing. Aloha Tomi
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From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: 4.1/mach/intel: FileMover bug: 'skip' if file already exists Date: 27 Aug 1997 06:38:48 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u0i1o$2df$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've just noticed this, but I'm not sure how long it has been going on: If I go to move/copy a file and it 'already exists' it gives the option to 'cancel, replace, or skip' "Replace" I thought meant that the original will be moved to the Recycler. "skip" used to mean "don't overwrite the existing copy in the target directory, but leave it where it is". Now "replace" seems to mean "remove the original and move this one to the target directory" Now "skip" seems to be "don't overwrite original and DELETE the file I WAS going to move". This is pretty serious, if true. Is anyone else running 4.1/mach/intel and able to test if they can reproduce this? It seems especially true if copying many files, some of which already exist and some of which do not. Thanks TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Marco van Dongen <MAA.vanDongen@student.unimaas.nl> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric,comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.pen,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech Subject: This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 14:25:30 +0200 Organization: Rijksuniversiteit Limburg Distribution: inet Message-ID: <34041CBA.1372@student.unimaas.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This message is a non-commercial request for help on my research ================================================================ My name is Marco van Dongen and i am accounting student at the University of Maastricht (UM) in the Netherlands. To graduate i have to write a thesis. My thesis deals with the Internet and therefore i use this medium to address as many people as possible. I am going to write my thesis about the commercial use of the Internet. My focus will be on planning and implementing activities. What problems do you come across. What are the positive and what are the negative aspects. The paper will NOT be a technical paper. The paper will deal with the question how to deal/manage a growing load of information. I am looking for people to give me suggestions for literature, articles. People that work for companies and have first hand experiences. Research already been done by people. Companies that are willing to participate in a little research by questionaire send on email. Or anything that could possibly be of any help to me. Please respond to me on email. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + MAA.vanDongen@Student.unimaas.nl + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Thanks Marco van Dongen
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From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 4.1/mach/intel: FileMover bug: 'skip' if file already exists Date: 27 Aug 1997 15:49:30 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Message-ID: <5u1iaa$1onm$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <5u0i1o$2df$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: > >I've just noticed this, but I'm not sure how long it has been going on: > >If I go to move/copy a file and it 'already exists' it gives the option to >'cancel, replace, or skip' > >"Replace" I thought meant that the original will be moved to the Recycler. > >"skip" used to mean "don't overwrite the existing copy in the target >directory, but leave it where it is". > >Now "replace" seems to mean "remove the original and move this one to the >target directory" > >Now "skip" seems to be "don't overwrite original and DELETE the file I WAS >going to move". I'm not sure I'd call this a bug - this is the behaviour I've always expected but perhaps that because I grew up with the Unix command line. I think "replace" is just that - replace it; saving the old copy isn't something I would expect or in most cases want it to. And "move" means remove all these things from here and put them there, so if I indicate to skip over something because it is already at the destination then I'd expect the original not to hang around (its a different story with "copy" because the original never gets deleted). NeXT is just sticking to the traditional Unix way of doing things, whether that's good or bad is a different issue. I kinda like it the way it is. Just my $0.02 - Gareth
From: nospam+next@luomat.peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: 4.1/mach/intel: FileMover bug: 'skip' if file already exists Date: 27 Aug 1997 17:19:59 GMT Organization: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ Message-ID: <5u1njv$eb4$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <5u0i1o$2df$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5u1iaa$1onm$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In <5u1iaa$1onm$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > I'm not sure I'd call this a bug - this is the behaviour I've always expected > but perhaps that because I grew up with the Unix command line. If this is a change from previous behavior than it should be at least noted somewhere. > I think "replace" is just that - replace it; saving the old copy isn't > something I would expect or in most cases want it to. Agreed, however, if it got stuck somewhere else on my drive I'd like to know where AND if they changed this behavior I'd like to know also. > And "move" means remove all these things from here and put them there, True enough > so if I indicate to skip over something because it is already at the > destination then I'd expect the original not to hang around (its a > different story with "copy" because the original never gets deleted). I think this is a very important change. Let's say I have 2 copies of a file, but I don't realize it. I try to move the file from X to Y, but it's already in Y -- is the copy in Y newer, older, the same, entirely different? If I choose "skip" I probably want to compare them. The UNIX 'move' does this if you use the '-i' flag, which is what I associate the 'skip' option.... > NeXT is just sticking to the traditional Unix way of doing things, whether > that's good or bad is a different issue. I kinda like it the way it is. Just > my $0.02 I don't like the change if I don't get a chance to look at my copy that I had thought about moving... I do like the 'replace' change, but I'd like to make sure this is true. TjL -- "NeXT continually embarrassed the rest of the industry for having workable, shipping, and high-quality answers before most people knew the questions." -- Gary Longsine, full text at: http://www.stepwise.com/Articles/Editorial/TheHolyGrail.html
From: Gerd_Gueldenpfennig@iXpoint.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mach crashes due to network problems Date: 27 Aug 1997 10:14:54 GMT Organization: iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH Message-ID: <5u0umu$20c$1@ixpoint.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Does anybody knows anything about this error messages? 1) myhost netmsgserver[22]: crypt_decrypt_paket.km_get_dkey fails, host id = <blabla> 2) myhost mach: Expanding zone kalloc.2048 3) myhost mach: en2: unable to allocate a netbuf Results: 1) is daily. System keeps running. 2) Machine crashes 3) Machine crashes after a while The system is NS3.3 with Patch 1, Intel P133, 2 Cogent ANA6901 C Ethernet Controller. The only not-normal configuration are two network cards. Is it possible, that NS3.3 has this problems while receiving multicast messages? Gerd --- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Dipl.- Inform. Gerd Gueldenpfennig + + iXpoint Informationssysteme GmbH + + Daimlerstrasse 3 76275 Ettlingen Germany + + Phone ++49 7243 3775-0 Fax ++49 7243 3775-77 + + Email: Gerd_Gueldenpfennig@ixpoint.de + + (NeXTmail, plain ASCII and MIME format) + + WWW: http://www.ixpoint.de + ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: csaldanh@mae.carleton.ca (Chris Saldanha) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: OS4.2 on Win95 - bad DLL Date: 30 Aug 1997 02:53:35 GMT Organization: computerActive Inc Message-ID: <5u81vf$3sb@bertrand.ccs.carleton.ca> OK, so I installed OS4.2 Enterprise deployment on Win95 just to try it out, and I can't run any programs. Every time I run an OS app (TextEdit, Draw, etc...) I get an invalid page fault failure in APPKIT.DLL. I reinstalled and it does the same thing. Anyone seen this kind of thing? I tried opening the DLL in Borland Resource Workshop, but it says it is an invalid format. All the other NeXT DLLs don't give me that error. Can anyone confirm that? --Chris Chris Saldanha, Software Analyst -------------------------------------- computerActive, Inc |"The telephone was not invented by | csaldanh@computerActive.com (NeXT/MIME)| Alexander Graham Unitel" -Bell Ad | http://www.mae.carleton.ca/~csaldanh --------------------------------------
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