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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Date: 1 Jun 1997 03:57:29 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <26791865137630@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: mbkomor@remarque.berkeley.edu (m.b.komor) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Weird Failure at Boot -- Need help! Date: 4 Jun 1997 22:52:17 GMT Organization: University of California, Berkeley Message-ID: <5n4rj1$ib9@agate.berkeley.edu> Please Cc: all replies to <jrudd@cygnus.com>. This morning my mon NeXTslab came up just fine, let me PPP in just fine, using Gatekeeper, and then experienced a kernel panic (about its 6th, since I've had it --about 4 months) and produced the following on reboot: Booting from SCSI target 4 lun 0 trap 5 at pc 0x4380b06, sr 0x2700 d0: 0x2000 a0: 0x4387544 d1: 0x2 a1: 0x87ffb72 d2: 0x0 a2: 0x43972c0 d3: 0x200f a3: 0x438a03c d4: 0x2 a4: 0x43972c0 d5: 0x0 a5: 0x87ff62e d6: 0x8 a6: 0x43bbf84 d7: 0x0 a7: 0x43bbf64 And there it dies. Reseating the harddrive scsi cable (at both ends), the ROM, the memory cards, *nothing* has changed this bootup failure (same message, every time). I'm not a NeXT (or any other kind of hardware) geek. John Carmack donated this machine to me four months ago because he didn't want to see it go to waste-- it's the machine he wrote the original DOOM code on, so I'd really hate for it to die like this ('sides, there's a bunch of things on it that I *need* --it's also the only machine I have that's capable of running PPP and a graphical browser at the same time ;) ). Can anybody help me get this fixed? *ThanQ!* Best, _*____* _////___ Meriday Beth & Velcro ~<:========--- & Majyk! >'=========^--- ~*~~~~* ~/~\~~>~> ---- -& little Zaphod! | | | | click here for in-lined image. ---- mbkomor@remarque.berkeley.edu | @goonsquad.spies.com & gneet@toys.fubarsys.com indigo@samsara.circus.com & umm@deeptht.armory.com & natter@nando.yak.net ambasadr@kosh.punk.net & little@reddragon.empire.net & hi@callamerica.net
From: msb@plexare.com (Michael S. Barthelemy) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Bug in [NSPageLayout pageLayout] Date: 5 Jun 1997 19:23:40 GMT Organization: Filoli Information Systems Message-ID: <5n73ns$nnf$1@news.filoli.com> [NSPageLayout pageLayout] always gives you a new NSPageLayout object contrary to the documentation. Example: Create a new application project in ProjectBuilder Complile the application Run the application in gdb Break the application after it launches (hit pause button) type: "po [NSPageLayout pageLayout]" repeat notice that the id pointers for the object have changed Workaround: Subclass or categorize NSPageLayout and override pageLayout to do the sensible thing.
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: sndplay causes kernel panic on 3.2 and 4.1 Date: 6 Jun 1997 14:32:15 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5n971f$hvl$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <EBCxxz.4J9@euler.han.de> Cc: js@euler.han.de In <EBCxxz.4J9@euler.han.de> Juergen Sell wrote: > Hi, > > I have an admittedly large sound file (~730MB) > which after ~20 minutes causes a kernel panic when played via sndplay on 3.2N > or 4.1N. > Accessing the file via NFS from the other machine does not change things. > Copying the file onto another disk does not change things. > It is always the same kernel panic. > > If the sound file was corrupted I would accept sndplay to abort o whatever > appropriate but not a kernel panic with sndplay being an ordinary executable > (no suid root flags here). > > sndinfo yields: > Filename: /General/File.snd > Size: 760820256 bytes, 190205064 samples, 4313.040 seconds > Format: 16 bit linear > SamplingRate: 44100.000 Hz > Channels: 2 > > This is on black hardware. Same is true for friend's 4.1 black. > The panic panel talks about 'MMU invalid descriptor during table walk'. > Yes, I know this problem, it happens on Intel too but with much smaller sounds (>16 MBytes). I got around this by writing my own sndplay functions that queues up the sound in little 64 kByte chunks. MMP2.app uses this trick. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: sndplay causes kernel panic on 3.2 and 4.1 Message-ID: <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <5n971f$hvl$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 18:17:37 GMT Frank M. Siegert writes > Yes, I know this problem, it happens on Intel too but with much smaller > sounds (>16 MBytes). > > I got around this by writing my own sndplay functions that queues up the > sound in little 64 kByte chunks. MMP2.app uses this trick. > I do not fully understand this comment. To my knowledge sndplay does _not_ read the entire snd-file before playing it -Resound.app and Soundeditor.app try that. Here's more info on when running sndplay: euler: ~ [2] > ps aux|grep sndplay js 7452 0.0 0.9 728M 304K p1 S 0:00 sndplay /General/File.snd euler: ~ [3] > ll /private/vm -rw------t 1 root wheel 134217728 Jun 6 19:14 swapfile -rw------t 1 root wheel 6119424 Jun 6 19:14 swapfile.front So sndplay does at least not allocate 728M of memory, right? Maybe this is different on 4.1? Different on Intel again? Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
From: Charles William Swiger <cs4w+@andrew.cmu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: sndplay causes kernel panic on 3.2 and 4.1 Date: Fri, 6 Jun 1997 20:06:59 -0400 Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA Message-ID: <8na_MX200UhB02FoJ1@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <5n971f$hvl$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> In-Reply-To: <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.next.bugs: 6-Jun-97 Re: sndplay causes kernel p.. by Juergen Sell@euler.han.d > Here's more info on when running sndplay: > euler: ~ [2] > ps aux|grep sndplay > js 7452 0.0 0.9 728M 304K p1 S 0:00 sndplay /General/File.snd [ ... ] > So sndplay does at least not allocate 728M of memory, right? > Maybe this is different on 4.1? Different on Intel again? Presumably, sndplay tries to mmap() the sound file into the process' address space, which is why the VSIZE is so large. It's probably also why the program chokes, although it certainly shouldn't crash the machine.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | cs4w@andrew.cmu.edu | standard disclaimer ----------------+---------------------+--------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Subject: Re: sndplay causes kernel panic on 3.2 and 4.1 AND ON 3.0 Message-ID: <EBEKu7.92L@euler.han.de> Sender: js@euler.han.de (Juergen Sell) Organization: Ink Unknown References: <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> Date: Sat, 7 Jun 1997 11:20:31 GMT Another bit of information: my system just paniced again after ~37min of playing that questionable soundfile when using sndplay from 3.0. The machine running 4.1. What was the last version of snd* using DSP? And could these simply be copied to a newer OS installation or would twiddling with libraries be required? Juergen --- AnsweringMachine +49 511 92455-50 Fon -51 Fax -52 NeXTMail welcome = What time do we live in when revolution reminds us of soap powder, = when spontaneity and freedom get associated with instant coffee, = when a politician's idea of social change is changing names = when a country posing as super know-how factory cuts expenses on education?
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From: frank@this.NO_SPAM.net (Frank M. Siegert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: sndplay causes kernel panic on 3.2 and 4.1 Date: 8 Jun 1997 10:56:34 GMT Organization: Frank's Area 51 Message-ID: <5ne352$m9r$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> References: <5n971f$hvl$1@orista.ipc.uni-tuebingen.de> <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> Cc: js@euler.han.de In <EBD9HE.5sJ@euler.han.de> Juergen Sell wrote: > Frank M. Siegert writes > > Yes, I know this problem, it happens on Intel too but with much smaller > > sounds (>16 MBytes). > > > > I got around this by writing my own sndplay functions that queues up the > > sound in little 64 kByte chunks. MMP2.app uses this trick. > > > I do not fully understand this comment. To my knowledge sndplay does _not_ read > the entire snd-file before playing it -Resound.app and Soundeditor.app try > that. > No, sndplay maps the file into the process address space but this does not work for larger sound files (don't ask me why, maybe some tables are getting to large). I ran into the same problem when I was downsampling 48 kHz recorded digital sounds from DAT to CD (44.1 kHz) format. The downsampling program (can't remember the name, it is the one mentioned in the NeXT release notes) mmaps the complete sound file and failed miserably on everything larger than a few 10 minutes. So I 'ported' rateconv-1.5 which runs as filter in limited memory space and hacked my own queueing sound routines. -- * Frank M. Siegert [frank@this.net] - Home http://www.this.net * NeXTSTEP, Linux, BeOS & PostScript Guy
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <26791865137630@digifix.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 03:57:17 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <14012865742421@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: dnelson@slip.net (Dru Nelson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Openstep Intel/Mach tips page Date: 8 Jun 1997 04:05:27 -0700 Organization: Slip.Net (http://www.slip.net) Message-ID: <5ne3ln$jdp@slip.net> I have made a web page that has some tips for dealing with some of the Openstep install issues. You can get to it here: http://www.slip.net/~dnelson/openstep.html Basically, it describes some of the problems I have had and some of the solutions. contact me here: dnelson@slip.net
From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5ndqnl$nm$1157@news.internetmci.com> Date: 8 Jun 1997 16:51:29 GMT Control: cancel <5ndqnl$nm$1157@news.internetmci.com> Message-ID: <cancel.5ndqnl$nm$1157@news.internetmci.com> Sender: Photorep45@ibm.net Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Initializing EIDE partitions. Date: 09 Jun 1997 13:47:34 -0400 Organization: Is a sign of weakness Sender: shess@shell.one.net Message-ID: <veewwo3fz2h.fsf@shell.one.net> References: <vee910nrdhr.fsf@shell.one.net> In-reply-to: shess@shell.one.net's message of 06 Jun 1997 10:51:28 -0400 In article <vee910nrdhr.fsf@shell.one.net>, shess@shell.one.net (Scott Hess) writes: I recently added a 3.1 EIDE drive to my Intel PC running NeXTSTEP. ... now I found that "disk -i /dev/rhd0a" causes a system panic. It first displays enough to indicate that it _is_ getting the disk name and partition size right. Then it says something about "hdform doesn't exist yet..." And I've been unable to figure out how it was that I originally accomplished the trick - though I do remember I had a number of system panics before hitting on the right command. Well, I managed to get through this. For unknown reason, the fdisk partitioning information wasn't being understood by NeXTSTEP. I rebooted to Linux, rewrote the partition table from Linux fdisk, and then NeXTSTEP was able to format the appropriate partition just fine. Has anyone noticed that NeXTSTEP fdisk gets confused by 3.1G EIDE disks? It reports: No partitions in use Unused Blocks Start Size ------------------------------- Free Space 0 2049 It is fully capable of initializing a NeXTSTEP FDISK partition created from some other fdisk program, it just doesn't seem to handle them itself. I've never tried partitioning with NeXTSTEP fdisk and writing the partitioning info, because I figure it's most likely to lose me the last Gig of space... Later, -- scott hess <shess@one.net> (606) 578-0412 http://w3.one.net/~shess/ <Favorite unused computer book title: The Idiots Guide to the Zen of Dummies in a Nutshell in Seven Days, Unleashed>
From: luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: 10 Jun 1997 03:23:24 GMT Organization: The PEAK FTP Archive for NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Message-ID: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm having problems with CDPlayer.app (I've never used it before). It won't see the CD-ROM. When I put the CD in I see: probing for DOS probing for CDROM probing for mac probing for cdaudio Jun 8 17:06:01 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer and the CD is ejected Running it under gdb showed this: GDB 4.14 (NEXTSTEP 4.0 --target i386), Copyright 1995 Free Software Foundation, Inc... Reading symbols from /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib...done. Reading symbols from /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 2 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 3 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 4 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7 cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied the permissions on the app are: -rwsr-xr-x 1 root wheel 57344 Sep 10 1996 /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer* I even tried this: -rwsr-sr-x 1 root wheel 57344 Sep 10 1996 /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app/CDPlayer* but got the same thing. Is this a software problem or a hardware problem (could it be that something isn't connected?) The CD-ROM is a Sony CDU-76... I don't even know if it is compatible with CDPlayer.app or not... any help appreciated! TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / ¬http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NeXT bookmarks: ¬http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html
From: jasonben@aol.com (jasonben) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5nc9j5$d7n$1018@usenet85.supernews.com> Control: cancel <5nc9j5$d7n$1018@usenet85.supernews.com> Date: 9 Jun 1997 12:54:08 -0400 Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com/ Sender: root@newsbf02.news.aol.com Message-ID: <-5nc9j5$d7n$1018@usenet85.supernews.com> Please cancel this posting
From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: 10 Jun 1997 09:41:08 GMT Organization: Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet Message-ID: <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > It won't see the CD-ROM. When I put the CD in I see: > [...] > and the CD is ejected > Don't insert the CD. Start CDPlayer.app and insert the disk when asked. Works for me. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89 http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/
From: msoori@*genetics.bio-rad.com (msoori) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Monitor problems with NeXT Date: Tue, 10 Jun 1997 09:56:50 +0100 Organization: Bio-Rad Laboratories Message-ID: <msoori-1006970956500001@ms.genetics.bio-rad.com> I am new to OpenStep from the Mac... I have installed Prelude to Rapsody on an intel box with and using a generic s3 video card. It works fine on my 21" Apple multi sync monitor and another pc monitor, but it dosent work on the radius Two Page Display/21gs gray scale monitor (which is fixed resolution at 1152x870 at 75hz) I cant find any display modes on the Next that displays at this resolution. The closest one listed is 1152x864. I'd like to use the color monitor for work and keep the gray scale one hooked to the next box so I can learn about OpenStep. What gives? Please respond by e-mail. Thanks, Mahesh. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ No spam for me mam! Remove * from e-mail address to reply. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Mahesh P. Sooriarachchi. ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ Work: msoori@*genetics.bio-rad.com | ~ ~ Personal: mahesh@*value.net | This space for rent! ~ ~ Home Page: http://value.net/~mahesh/work.html | ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: Hans Mulder <hansm@icgned.nl> Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Message-ID: <EBLuDr.F9E@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: Save the Dodo Foundation References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 09:29:51 GMT luomat@peak.org (Timothy J. Luoma) wrote: >I'm having problems with CDPlayer.app (I've never used it before). >It won't see the CD-ROM. When I put the CD in I see: >probing for DOS >probing for CDROM >probing for mac >probing for cdaudio >Jun 8 17:06:01 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio >cdaudio.util: CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer >and the CD is ejected I used to have that problem. Things got better after I made a link in /LocalApps pointing at /NextDeveloper/Demos/CDPlayer.app . I still sometimes get the ``CANNOT OPEN CDPlayer'' message; it goes away if I reboot and try again. Timing is also important: things go wrong in various ways if I insert the CD before I'm fully logged in. -- HansM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> Organization: University of Calgary CPSC From: hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (David Hill) Message-ID: <339e4d87.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Date: 11 Jun 97 07:02:31 GMT In article <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE>, Klaus Pommerening <pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de> wrote: >In <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >> It won't see the CD-ROM. When I put the CD in I see: >> [...] >> and the CD is ejected >> >Don't insert the CD. Start CDPlayer.app and insert the disk when asked. >Works for me. >-- >Klaus Pommerening >Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation >der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany >PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89 >http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/ > Well, there you go. He had the opposite experience to me. I wonder which version of the OS he was using? david --- -- David R. Hill, CS & Psych Depts., U. Calgary | Imagination is more Calgary, AB, Canada T2N 1N4 Ph: 604-947-9362 | important than knowledge. hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca OR david@firethorne.com| (Albert Einstein) http://www.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~hill (^NeXTMail)| Kill your television!
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From: everest@ever.pinn.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Hard to find Cheerleader pictures Date: 12 Jun 1997 07:09:51 GMT Organization: TnB Inc Message-ID: <5no7bv$olp$67@nw001.infi.net> Hey, just thought i'd share with everyone, I found a site with loads of nude CHEERLEADERs. The address is: http://www.mid-night.com/cheer.htm --Jason-- (Sorry for the intrusion, everyone needs some short skirts in their life) P.S. They also have a few thounsand celebrities but im not into that.
From: decoy_id@no_junk_on_the.net (L e e Altenberg) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail wierdness: incoming messages split up Date: 12 Jun 1997 08:47:16 GMT Organization: MHPCC Message-ID: <5nod2k$9f4$1@kaopala.mhpcc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Recently a strange thing has been occuring in incoming mail on a NEXTSTEP 3.3 pl1 /Intel system. Incoming messages will randomly get split up into two messages, e.g., looking in the Active.mbo/mbox file: ... From user@hostname.edu Wed Jun 11 22:35:33 1997 Return-Path: <user@hostname.edu> Received: from host1.college.edu by montana.college.edu (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA04584; Wed, 11 Jun 97 22:35:32 -1000 Received: from hostname.edu (hostname.edu [123.45.6.78]) by mail.college.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA26735 for <altenber@college.edu>; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:33:08 -1000 Message-Id: <199706120833.WAA26735@mail.college.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 97 01:32:39 PDT From: "Altenberg, Lee" <user@hostname.edu> To: altenber@college.edu Subject: Important message This is the message. From user@hostname.edu Wed Jun 11 22:35:58 1997 Return-Path: <user@hostname.edu> Received: from host1.college.edu by montana.college.edu (NX5.67f2/NX3.0M) id AA04592; Wed, 11 Jun 97 22:35:57 -1000 Received: from hostname.edu (hostname.edu [123.45.6.78]) by mail.college.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id WAA30556 for altenber; Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:19:54 -1000 Date: Wed, 11 Jun 1997 22:19:54 -1000 From: user@hostname.edu Message-Id: <199706120819.WAA30556@mail.college.edu> Apparently-To: <altenber@montana.college.edu> I don't know what setting I might has set that would cause this to happen. It is sporadic. Any clues would be welcome. -- ======================================================================= Lee Altenberg, Ph.D. Research Affiliate, University of Hawai`i at Manoa Office: Maui High Performance Computing Center 550 Lipoa Parkway, Suite 100, Kihei, Maui HI 96753 Phone: (808) 879-5077 x 296 (work), (808) 879-5018 (fax) E-mail: altenXber@mhpXcc.edu <Delete the "X"s; done to stop junk e-mail> Web: http://pueo.mhpcc.edu/~Xaltenber/ <Delete the "X"> =======================================================================
From: everest@ever.pinn.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 12 Jun 1997 07:09:51 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.5no7bv$olp$67@nw001.infi.net> Subject: cmsg cancel <5no7bv$olp$67@nw001.infi.net> Control: cancel <5no7bv$olp$67@nw001.infi.net> Organization: Usenet Canal Historique ECP/EMP aka SPAM or pyramidal scheme (MMF) cancelled by bofh@keltia.freenix.fr. It may also be an image too small for newsbot to be activated. See report in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Date: Thu Jun 12 13:34:10 1997 Original subject was: Hard to find Cheerleader pictures
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 08:40:52 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970612083942.4716C-100000@cc344191-a> References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <339e4d87.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: David Hill <hill@cpsc.ucalgary.ca> In-Reply-To: <339e4d87.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> On 11 Jun 1997, David Hill wrote: > Well, there you go. He had the opposite experience to me. I wonder > which version of the OS he was using? 4.1.... starting the app first does work.... but still no sound.... I think I may have missed a wire when I hooked up the CD-ROM... it seems to be playing without problems, but no sound.... TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 09:45:36 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970612094434.5337B-100000@cc344191-a> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Klaus Pommerening <pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de> In-Reply-To: <199706121343.PAA01590@katrin.imsd.uni-mainz.de> On Thu, 12 Jun 1997, Klaus Pommerening wrote: > Put the speakers in the slot in front of the CD player. If you hear the sound > then, as a next step open your computer and insert the wire between CD player > and sound card. Well that's an excellent idea I hadn't even thought of! Thanks! TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html sed 's/End\ of\ sig/pithy\ quotation/g'
From: biuort@cdgrs.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,alt.config Subject: cmsg cancel <339edeee.1@news.netzilla.net> Control: cancel <339edeee.1@news.netzilla.net> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 1997 19:25:24 +0100 Organization: SEXZILLA.COM http://www.sexzilla.com Message-ID: <cancel.339edeee.1@news.netzilla.net> References: <339edeee.1@news.netzilla.net> EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. The Breidbart index was 23. See report "205.199.2.203/saylordesign" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: fgkrt-0.
From: dirk@object-factory.com (Dirk Olmes) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: 10 Jun 1997 13:29:22 GMT Organization: Object Factory GmbH (Germany) Message-ID: <5njkri$kdg$1@leonie.object-factory.com> References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Klaus Pommerening) wrote: > In <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > It won't see the CD-ROM. When I put the CD in I see: > > [...] > > and the CD is ejected > > > Don't insert the CD. Start CDPlayer.app and insert the disk when asked. > Works for me. This doesn't work either. The first panel that pops up is the one saying that the CDRom cannot be opened. What now? -dirk --- ______________________________________________________________________ Dirk Olmes OBJECT FACTORY Gesellschaft fuer Informatik und Datenverarbeitung mbH Otto-Hahn Str. 18, 44227 Dortmund, Germany Telephon +49 (0) 231 975 137 0 Telefax +49 (0) 231 975 137 99 dirk@object-factory.com http://www.object-factory.com/ Hiroshima 45, Tschernobyl 86, Windows 95
From: zlewanto@stan.donet.com (Zdzislaw H. "Stan" Lewantowicz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Any Success w ESS1868 Sound on NS3.3? Date: 14 Jun 1997 01:43:56 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Message-ID: <5nst0s$i70$1@usenet88.supernews.com> Has anyone had success with ESS1868 PnP soundcard on NS3.3 Intel? Am running an Award Bios PnP dual boot (W95 and NS3.3) on a 166MH Pentium. The ESS1868 card works fine on W95 - the Bios reconizes it as during boot. During NS3.3 boot I observe the console messages: Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: Plug and Play support enabled Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: Plug and Play BIOS present Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: read port 0x20b, max csn 1 Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: PnP: csn 1: ESS1868 s/n 0x00000001 Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: ISA/EISA bus support enabled ... Jun 13 11:22:16 stan mach: ES1x88AudioDriver: Hardware not detected at port 0x220. I have checked and rechecked all of the settings, etc. I have tried the NS4.1 version of the driver. I have upgraded the EISA driver to ver 3.37. etc - and still no sound. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Stan
From: rupert@noir.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: It always pays to panic... Date: 14 Jun 1997 05:23:18 GMT Organization: Internet Connect, Inc. http://www.inc.net usenet@news.inc.net Message-ID: <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Woe is me. I've got a Color Turbo that is suddenly incapable of making it through an hour of operation without panicking. Uggh. I am infinitely perplexed as to what I did to percipitate this, but here's the rundown: - Original 250Mb drive died. No fsck, lowlevel format, etc would work. Kaput. Fine. - Installed spare Fujitsu 540 just fine. - Took time to clean & vacuum the inside of the pizza box. - Installed 3.3 from scratch. - Everything seemed ducky, even the patch install & "renetworking" of the machine. - Very intermittently, but at least once an hour the machine panics, even when idle. I get a big NMI window full of dex-hex-mess dump, and then usually the following message: "MMU invalid descriptor during table walk" Any idea what might be causing this behaviour? The machine worked flawlessly before the first HDD died... I am stumped as to where to even begin on this snipe hunt. I am not panicking yet... Hans Rupert -- Hans Rupert <rupert@noir.net> Direktor noir
From: Tony Scott<summer@laoffices.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!! Date: 14 Jun 1997 15:06:57 GMT Organization: World Wide Pants Promotion Message-ID: <5nuc2h$84p$7658@cadmium.aware.nl> Hi, This is a Solicitation Email, we are looking for new TUFF'97 DISTRIBUTORS. TUFF'97 is a promotional concept for a prospect follow-up system called "Simple Track". Software designed for Windows 95, 3.11 and NT machines. (Macintosh users read the NOTE below(*)) Concept: The TUFF'97 software includes a copy of Simple Track, so you can use this for your own personal administration (free). However, the TUFF'97 software is designed to give you BIG TIME credits for just taking the efforts to PROMOTE it. How do I get those credits?. Easy, just distribute/promote it. How? (Give away the software for free, put it on your website/homepage and let everyone download it. Give it to your friends, attach it by email etc). With a one time $40.00 (USD) validation code purchase, YOUR name becomes part of all sofware you sent out to your customers. When your TUFF'97 software gets validated, all your personal information is automatically integrated in the software, so everyone knows how to reach you by phone/fax or email and where to sent the check/money or cash orders. Basically this is the concept. Offcourse you need the software to grasp the whole thing. Believe it, there is absolutely no marketing knowledge required, just ask for the software package, join and start promoting your own TUFF'97 line. The only thing you DO need is a PC or Mac(*) and Internet. (*) TUFF'97 is only available for MacOS users running Connectix VirtualPC or Insignia's Sofwindows 95/3.11. A true MacOS version is not available. When you're interested in becoming a TUFF'97 distributor and create your own distribution line, sent a mailto:FiReStArTeR@frodo.com and ask for your copy of the TUFF software (We'll sent you a download location and install instructions). This is a serious opportunity, so only serious responses are processed. If you're not interested, have a nice day. Best Regards, Tony Scott Worldwide Pants Promotions 24H Support/Download requests, mailto:FiReStArTeR@frodo.com voice:(+01)779 698 4655 Fax :(+01)779 698 4555
From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5nuc2h$84p$7658@cadmium.aware.nl> Date: 14 Jun 1997 17:40:05 GMT Control: cancel <5nuc2h$84p$7658@cadmium.aware.nl> Message-ID: <cancel.5nuc2h$84p$7658@cadmium.aware.nl> Sender: Tony Scott<summer@laoffices.com> Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970614.03. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970614.03.html for complete report. Original Subject: Distributors Wanted NOW!!
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <14012865742421@digifix.com> Date: 15 Jun 1997 03:57:19 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <3108866347221@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. 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From: pom@imsd.uni-mainz.de (Klaus Pommerening) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: CDPlayer.app not seeing CD-ROM Date: 12 Jun 1997 13:43:07 GMT Organization: Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet Message-ID: <5noudb$3ca$1@quasimodo.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> References: <5nihbc$l7r$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <5nj7fk$c52$1@esmeralda.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE> <339e4d87.0@news.cpsc.ucalgary.ca> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970612083942.4716C-100000@cc344191-a> Cc: luomat@peak.org In <Pine.NXT.3.96.970612083942.4716C-100000@cc344191-a> "Timothy J. Luoma" wrote: > .... starting the app first does work.... but still no sound.... I > think I may have missed a wire when I hooked up the CD-ROM... it seems to > be playing without problems, but no sound.... > Put the speakers in the slot in front of the CD player. If you hear the sound then, as a next step open your computer and insert the wire between CD player and sound card. -- Klaus Pommerening Institut fuer Medizinische Statistik und Dokumentation der Johannes-Gutenberg-Universitaet, D-55101 Mainz, Germany PGP fingerprint: F5 03 CE E7 70 C2 8C 74 BA ED EC 60 83 3B 7C 89 http://www.Uni-Mainz.DE/~pommeren/
From: s.austin@btinternet.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: EVALUATOR wanted for year 2000 solutions (UK) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 19:04:51 GMT Organization: BT Internet Message-ID: <5o5r6k$jlk@neon.btinternet.com> Expert Evaluator/Software Engineer required on a freelance basis to assess individual company problems, relating to the 'Millenium Bug', needed as a go-between with India-based software engineers. Please e-mail for further details......s.austin@btinternet.com
From: Serge Smadja <serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Drivers, more Drivers are needed Date: Tue, 17 Jun 1997 16:50:23 +0200 Organization: EDF - DER/IMA/ICI/ODI Message-ID: <33A6A42F.2577BC9F@der.edfgdf.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello All, I have installed OpenStep 4.1 on a G6 200XL from Gateway 2000, however my graphic adapter is a STB Virge velocity 3D and my network adapter is a 3COM Etherlink III PCI (PCI is very important) and it seems that there aren't adequate drivers on the CD or on the Next Site. Any help would be appriciated. Does anybody knows if those drivers will be available anytime soon. Thanks. -- Serge Smadja EDF - Direction des Etudes et Recherches - FRANCE Ingénieur Chercheur - Département Ingénierie de la Communication en Informatique Groupe Outils de Dialogue pour l'Informatique Tél : +33 (0)1 47 65 31 31 fax : +33 (0)1 47 65 35 23 email : serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr
From: Axel Habermann <kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Drivers, more Drivers are needed Date: 17 Jun 1997 19:37:54 GMT Organization: Technical University Berlin, Germany Message-ID: <5o6p2i$9qe$1@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> References: <33A6A42F.2577BC9F@der.edfgdf.fr> In comp.sys.next.advocacy Serge Smadja <serge.smadja@der.edfgdf.fr> wrote: : Hello All, : I have installed OpenStep 4.1 on a G6 200XL from Gateway 2000, however : my graphic adapter is a STB Virge velocity 3D and my network adapter is : a 3COM Etherlink III PCI (PCI is very important) and it seems that there : aren't adequate drivers on the CD or on the Next Site. There is a generic driver for the Virge chipset, I would give it a try, maybe it works with your graphics card. There is no such thing an Etherlink III PCI adapter, at least not according to 3com's website. There is an Etherlink XL PCI adapter for which a driver is available: NeXTanswers #2165, #2166, #2534 HTH Axel -- Axel Habermann kiwi@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de Fon:+49 30 45478986 Fax:4542296 Die Dateien, in denen die Programmdokumentation enthalten ist, haben normalerweise die Endung ".c", -- Kristian Koehntopp
From: NOSPAM.michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (Michael Pieper, remove 'NOSPAM.' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Date: 18 Jun 1997 08:25:33 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Message-ID: <5o861t$gt0$1@nexusgate.tng.oche.de> References: <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> rupert@noir.net wrote: >I've got a Color Turbo that is suddenly incapable of making it through an >hour of operation without panicking. Uggh. I am infinitely perplexed as to >what I did to percipitate this, but here's the rundown: > >- Original 250Mb drive died. No fsck, lowlevel format, etc would work. >Kaput. Fine. >- Installed spare Fujitsu 540 just fine. Did you terminate the SCSI bus correctly? And did you enable termpower on the drive? The original NeXT SCSI adapter does not support termpower to the SCSI bus as almost any other SCSI adapter does. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael@nexus1.tng.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand
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From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: IB: Missing Main Menu Date: 19 Jun 1997 02:59:37 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <chris-ya023580001806972300320001@news.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I've been working on an app; Its a rather large app and of course has a Main Menu. But the strangest thing is going on: In the app's main nib, there is the icon for the mainMenu. The weird thing is that I can't seem to find this actual menu anywhere, i.e I double-click on the icon, the Inspector switches to Menu Inspector, the name of the app/menu title appears in the 'Title' text field, but the 'physical' list of menu cells appears nowhere. I compile/run the app and it shows up as the app's main menu, just as you'd expect; I switch back to IB and it's still gone. (It's been missing for days, and frankly I'm worried.) Has anyone seen this before ? CB
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From: bart@xblacksmith.com (Bartley Troyan) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Date: 19 Jun 1997 00:34:51 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Message-ID: <5o9urb$s7i$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> In article <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> rupert@noir.net writes: > - Very intermittently, but at least once an hour the machine panics, even > when idle. > > I get a big NMI window full of dex-hex-mess dump, and then usually the > following message: > > "MMU invalid descriptor during table walk" > > Any idea what might be causing this behaviour? The machine worked flawlessly > before the first HDD died... I am stumped as to where to even begin on this > snipe hunt. I used to get that message on my turbo pizza box, during the time period when I had some spare memory installed. I believe it was because the memory was parity memory and pizza boxes don't like parity memory (or vice-versa, I'm not a hardware guy). Try removing and reseating the SIMMS. How many/what size chips are in your machine? Try switching them around, maybe they are inserted in the wrong sequence. Hope this helps, Bart Troyan Blacksmith, Inc. to email me, note that my company's name doesn't begin with x and change my reply-to address accordingly.
From: Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Date: Thu, 19 Jun 1997 08:55:16 -0400 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.NXT.3.96.970619085233.6504A-100000@cc3441910a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> References: <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> <5o9urb$s7i$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: rupert@noir.net In-Reply-To: <5o9urb$s7i$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> On 19 Jun 1997, Bartley Troyan wrote: > In article <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> rupert@noir.net writes: > > - Very intermittently, but at least once an hour the machine panics, even > > when idle. > I used to get that message on my turbo pizza box, during the time period > when I had some spare memory installed. I believe it was because the > memory was parity memory and pizza boxes don't like parity memory (or > vice-versa, I'm not a hardware guy). FWIW my non-turbo slab has all parity memory (32 meg).. of course perhaps it does not like mixed parity and non? Still not sure how this would be related to the HDD dying, but perhaps it was just a coincidence? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College
From: chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: IB: Missing Main Menu Date: 20 Jun 1997 08:31:24 GMT Organization: University of Tennessee Message-ID: <chris-ya023580002006970432230001@news.utk.edu> References: <chris-ya023580001806972300320001@news.utk.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <chris-ya023580001806972300320001@news.utk.edu>, chris@polaris.scicntr.ortn.edu wrote: > I've been working on an app; Its a rather large app and of course has a > Main Menu. But the strangest thing is going on: > > In the app's main nib, there is the icon for the mainMenu. The weird thing > is that I can't seem to find this actual menu anywhere, i.e I double-click > on the icon, the Inspector switches to Menu Inspector, the name of the > app/menu title appears in the 'Title' text field, but the 'physical' list > of menu cells appears nowhere. > > I compile/run the app and it shows up as the app's main menu, just as you'd > expect; I switch back to IB and it's still gone. > > (It's been missing for days, and frankly I'm worried.) > > Has anyone seen this before ? > > > CB Sorry... New e-mail address : beauvois@usa.net Regards -- CB
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Message-ID: <199706212005.QAA26865@kira.peak.org> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.1mach v148) From: "Timothy J. Luoma" <luomat@peak.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 97 16:05:27 -0400 Subject: nu -a in 4.1 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Princeton Theological Seminary Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net nu -a in 4.1 tries to send mail using 'mail -s' which doesn't work, rather than 'Mail -s' which would work. Anyone else seen this? yeah yeah, I know, you all use UserManager.app TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ NeXT bookmarks: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/bookmarks.html "Everything is easy when you know what you are doing." - Dr Robert Cupper, Department of CS, Allegheny College
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <3108866347221@digifix.com> Date: 22 Jun 1997 03:57:06 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <10436866952022@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. 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From: rennich@lelepc4.stanford.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Having problems adding a second SCSI hard drive Date: 23 Jun 1997 16:28:27 GMT Organization: Stanford University Message-ID: <5om87b$fi1$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Thanks for reading this. Briefly: I'm trying to add a Quantum Fireball TM 3.2 GB drive to a pc running OS 4.0. The problem is that no matter what I do, the system always thinks the drive is only 1.7GB. Details: I have a Pentium Pro on a Supermicro P6SNE board. The scsi controller is the Adaptec 2940. The original, boot (still) drive is an HP Surestore 2000 2.0GB (It has always worked well). The boot drive is scsi id#3, attached at the end of the cable and terminated. The quantum drive is scsi id #6, in the middle of the cable and not terminated. Otherwise 192MB core, Mattrox millennium and 3Comm etherexpress III. Questions: + Older versions of NS/OS were limited to filesystems of 2GB or less. Is this still true? The solution was to partition such systems into smaller filesystems. How is this done? + After hooking up the drive and rebooting, the drive is recognized as new and I am prompted to initialize it with BuildDisk. No matter what, builddisk always reports that the drive is 1028.7 MB. There is a partition button on the BuildDisk panel but it is never active. Initializing the disk in this way results in a filesystem that OS4.0 thinks is 1.7GB. + utilities like scsimodes appear to correctly identify the disk and its characteristics. scsimodes reports that it is a 3.2GB disk. + fdisk can be used to partition the disk, but it won't allow more than one NS partitions. So ... if multiple partitions are necessary, but only one is useful, has anything been accomplished? Is this the way fdisk is supposed to work? If so, I'd at least like a 2.0GB NS partition. Regardless, upon reboot it is back to one 1.7GB next partition. + I have tried editing the disktab, using newfs and mkfs. They can all be make to execute without errors, but, upon rebooting, the system again thinks there is just on 1.7GB partition. + The system doesn't seem to be as fast as it was. Should the main disk always be the first on the scsi chain? or does it not matter? + When I first installed the drive I had forgotten to remove the scsi terminator. Things seemed to work, but the system was VERY slow. This was similar to what I experienced when I had installed an early version of the Omni Fast Video driver. That early version didn't work because, at 192MB, I did not have an even power of 2 amount of RAM. Under NS3.3 a later versions of the Omni Fast Video driver worked great. Since the problem seemed so similar I immediately removed the upper 64MB - and the speed problem disappeared! However, with the drives correctly terminated, I now have all 192MB in the machine and it is working better. Are there any known problems with OS4.0 and uneven amounts of core memory? Has anybody else observed this behavior? Could it be related to the drive initialization problem? The system isn't unuseably slow now, but it doesn't seem as fast as before. Any help/suggestions/pointers that anyone might be abe to provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Steve rennich@leland.stanford.edu
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From: bresink@informatik.uni-koblenz.de (Marcel Bresink) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Having problems adding a second SCSI hard drive Date: 24 Jun 1997 08:39:30 GMT Organization: University Koblenz / Germany Message-ID: <5oo142$gd2$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> References: <5om87b$fi1$1@nntp.Stanford.EDU> rennich@lelepc4.stanford.edu wrote: > + fdisk can be used to partition the disk, but it won't allow more than > one NS partitions. So ... if multiple partitions are necessary, but only > one is useful, has anything been accomplished? Is this the way fdisk is > supposed to work? If so, I'd at least like a 2.0GB NS partition. > Regardless, upon reboot it is back to one 1.7GB next partition. NS on Intel knows two different kind of partitions: an "area" on the disk usable for NS, and "subpartitions" inside this area. The documentation calls the first type a "DOS partition", the second type a "filesystem partition". I guess your system did automagically the right thing: It used the full 3.2 GB of your new Quantum disk for NS, and subpartitioned it with two filesystems, heuristically using half the size for each. But the second filesystem isn't automounted, so you don't see it. I assume your new drive is /dev/rsd2h? Try to login as root and enter something like "mount /dev/sd2b /Disk2". (Note the "b" for the second filesystem partition in the NS DOS partition.) If this works, you should see your second 1.7 GB part of your 3.2 GB disk. If you generate an /etc/fstab entry for that partition, it will be mounted at boot time. > + Older versions of NS/OS were limited to filesystems of 2GB > or less. Is this still true? Yes and no. The 2 GB limit is the reason your drive was partitioned into two halfs. OS 4.x _does_ support filesystems > 2GB, but not all system utitilies seem to know that... :-) > No matter what, builddisk always reports that the drive is > 1028.7 MB. [...] + I have tried editing the disktab, using > newfs and mkfs. On Intel-based systems, the best way to install a new disk is simply using fdisk /dev/rsdxh for DOS-partitioning it and disk -i /dev/sdxh for doing all the rest. Then you will also see messages if your disk was divided into a, b, c, ... partitions. Good Luck! Marcel --- Marcel Bresink, University of Koblenz, Institute for Computer Science Rheinau 1, D-56075 Koblenz, Germany, Fon: +49-261-9119-421 Fax: ...-497 MIME/NeXT Mail accepted --- WWW: http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~bresink
From: moron@Glue.umd.edu (Warren B. Focke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: It always pays to panic... Date: 24 Jun 1997 16:47:41 -0400 Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD Message-ID: <5opbpd$3aj@mulligan.eng.umd.edu> References: <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> <5o9urb$s7i$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <Pine.NXT.3.96.970619085233.6504A-100000@cc3441910a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Thus Spake Timothy J Luoma <luomat@peak.org>: >On 19 Jun 1997, Bartley Troyan wrote: > >> In article <5nt9s6$l4c$1@news.inc.net> rupert@noir.net writes: >> > - Very intermittently, but at least once an hour the machine panics, even >> > when idle. > >> I used to get that message on my turbo pizza box, during the time period >> when I had some spare memory installed. I believe it was because the >> memory was parity memory and pizza boxes don't like parity memory (or >> vice-versa, I'm not a hardware guy). > >FWIW my non-turbo slab has all parity memory (32 meg).. of course perhaps >it does not like mixed parity and non? My (non-turbo, mono) slab has 16M of parity and 4M of non - seems to work ok. But isn't the memory subsystem on the turbos a bit different? wbf
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From: amaro@klein.ist.utl.pt (Amaro Rica da Silva) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Pasteboard unavailable in Mma3.3? Date: 25 Jun 1997 14:26:55 GMT Organization: Instituto Superior Tecnico Message-ID: <5or9rf$n6k@ci.ist.utl.pt> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello all, System: Mma3.0 on NeXTSTEP-OS3.3. When I try to use Terminal Services in the (Services Menu) during a Mathematica Session, I get an error message: Service <servicename> (e.g. Count Words) could not be provided: Couldn't read selection from pasteboard. Is there any fix for this? Is there a standard way to access Mma's selection clipboard and use it? Amaro
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <10436866952022@digifix.com> Date: 29 Jun 1997 03:56:52 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <1452867556825@digifix.com> Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com )
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From: Cosmo Roadkill <cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us> Sender: Free Cable<langs@griller.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <33b78b50.1@news.netzilla.net> Control: cancel <33b78b50.1@news.netzilla.net> Date: 30 Jun 1997 11:00:42 GMT Message-ID: <cancel.33b78b50.1@news.netzilla.net> Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. A report will be published shortly on news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon!
From: clane@stem.com (Christopher Lane) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: nu -a in 4.1 Date: 23 Jun 1997 20:55:07 GMT Organization: Systemix, Inc. Message-ID: <5omnrb$l5m@iserver.stem.com> References: <199706212005.QAA26865@kira.peak.org> > nu -a in 4.1 tries to send mail using 'mail -s' which doesn't work, > rather than 'Mail -s' which would work. On our 4.1 (& 4.2) systems, Mail is just a symbolic link to mail on /usr/ucb: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 4 Jan 22 10:10 Mail -> mail*@ -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 76980 Aug 27 1996 mail* So 'Mail -s' shouldn't work if 'mail -s' doesn't. On our 3.3 systems, the reverse is true: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 65536 Oct 19 1994 /usr/ucb/Mail* lrwxrwxrwx 1 root 4 Jan 20 16:12 /usr/ucb/mail -> Mail@ Perhaps you lost something in the upgrade process, - Christopher
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