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From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5k90ta$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 May 1997 04:04:15 GMT Control: cancel <5k90ta$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <cancel.5k90ta$m6c@chile.earthlink.net> Sender: Rich@aol.com Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com
From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Thu, 01 May 1997 13:33:37 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just ran across this site from Ric Ford's Macintouch MacWEEK article, and it provides the following... Programs Security holes Affected NS versions Fixes http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 12:33:51 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In-Reply-To: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> > I just ran across this site from Ric Ford's Macintouch MacWEEK article, > and it provides the following... > > Programs Security holes Affected NS versions Fixes > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html Yup... it's been listed on my (anemic) NeXTStep security page for over a month and a half.... A lot of handy stuff there TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Damned pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
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From: "Eric A. Dubiel" <eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 13:48:34 -0600 Organization: Instructional Technology Development - Illinois State University, Bloomington-Normal, USA Message-ID: <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Timothy Luoma wrote: > > http://golem.ph.utexas.edu/~distler/progs/index.html > > Yup... it's been listed on my (anemic) NeXTStep security page for over a > month and a half.... With the slowness for SYN and POD problem fix for Open Transport, and NeXT's bad security fix track record, one would wonder what the future will hold?! More of the same? I hope not. Apple should probably address this publicly...it really doesn't look good... -- Eric A. Dubiel; http://www.ilstu.edu/~eadubie mailto:eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu ytalk eadubie@138.87.201.11--MIME, SUN, NeXT, PGP Mail ok R&D--Instructional Technology Development--Illinois State University "I first saw NEXTSTEP in 1990 and I was blown away."-Eric Schmidt, Novell Inc CEO VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE ENTIRELY MY OWN
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sat, 03 May 1997 21:55:22 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> In article <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: >With the slowness for SYN and POD problem fix for Open Transport, and >NeXT's bad security fix track record, one would wonder what the future >will hold?! Ha! That's amusing. Open Transport 1.5 is supposed to be immune to the Ping 'o Death. But it was canceled. I know for certain that, at least some NeXTStep/hardware combinations are vulnerable*. So Rhapsody could even be a step backwards. Jacques Distler *Not necessarily a crash. I know at least one system will simply disconnect itself from the network. In practice, this is almost as bad, as the only way to bring up the network again is to reboot.
From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <25195862113623@digifix.com> Date: 4 May 1997 03:59:04 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <851862718425@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: OS 4.1: icon count in Mail.app wrong Date: Sat, 3 May 1997 14:37:28 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503143424.25246A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mail.app shows that I have 2x the number of messages waiting for me... When I fetch the messages, itnever shows 0 remaining (or no nuber)... it says there is 1 ... if I quit and restart the app it goes away. Anyone else seeing this? Anyone even able to figure out what we are saying? TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> < Greatly pleased with his NSFIP from Bifrost > http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Links to all things NeXTStep/OpenStep! Info, pictures, Ftp sites, FAQs and more.
From: Rudolf B Blazek <blazek@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXT Security holes & Fixes Date: Sun, 4 May 1997 10:01:35 -0400 Organization: Michigan State University Message-ID: <Pine.A32.3.91.970504100009.22247A-100000@clunix.cl.msu.edu> References: <3368EFAF.155F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970501123234.26749A-100000@kira> <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <distler-0305972155230001@slip-88-3.ots.utexas.edu> On Sat, 3 May 1997, Jacques Distler wrote: > In article <336B963D.3F4F@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, > eadubie@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu wrote: > > Open Transport 1.5 is supposed to be immune to the Ping 'o Death. But it > was canceled. I know for certain that, at least some NeXTStep/hardware > combinations are vulnerable*. So Rhapsody could even be a step backwards. > OpenTransport is being reconsidered. Check out http://www.stepwise.com for the latest news. So the issue is not closed yet. Rudy.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: Hans Mulder <hansm@icgned.nl> Subject: Re: OS 4.1: icon count in Mail.app wrong Message-ID: <E9p931.276@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: Save the Dodo Foundation References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503143424.25246A-100000@kira> Date: Mon, 5 May 1997 08:33:01 GMT Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >Mail.app shows that I have 2x the number of messages waiting for me... >When I fetch the messages, itnever shows 0 remaining (or no nuber)... it >says there is 1 ... if I quit and restart the app it goes away. >Anyone else seeing this? Anyone even able to figure out what we are >saying? I have the same problem on my home machine; on my work machine the count is correct. My home machine is a pentium box, my work machine is an mc68040; both run OpenStep 4.1. -- HansM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs From: Hans Mulder <hansm@icgned.nl> Subject: Re: OS 4.1: icon count in Mail.app wrong Message-ID: <E9swyn.B22@icgned.nl> Sender: news@icgned.nl Organization: Save the Dodo Foundation References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503143424.25246A-100000@kira> <E9p931.276@icgned.nl> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970505192048.23893A-100000@kira> Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 08:01:35 GMT Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> wrote: >Are your mail preferences the same? No. >I've heard this is a bug with manual retrieval of mail Yes: setting 'retrieve" to "automatic" solved the problem. Thanks, -- HansM
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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Mail.app 4.1: NXColorList could not parse color list Date: Wed, 7 May 1997 19:01:39 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970507190018.5951A-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Everytime I start Mail.app I get this message: May 7 16:17:53 peace Mail[743]: NXColorList could not parse color list file /NextLibrary/Colors/System.clr/System.clr Clues as to why and/or how to fix? TjL
From: yucheng@math.arizona.edu (Yuwen Cheng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: OS 4.1: icon count in Mail.app wrong Date: 6 May 1997 09:07:50 GMT Organization: University of Arizona Message-ID: <5kmsd6$k9q$1@news.ccit.arizona.edu> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503143424.25246A-100000@kira> Cc: luomat@peak.org If I fetch the mails manually, I see the same problem as you described. However, the count is correct if I use Mail.app to retrive mails automatically. BTW, it is on 4.1 FIP. In <Pine.SUN.3.96.970503143424.25246A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma wrote: > > > Mail.app shows that I have 2x the number of messages waiting for me... > > When I fetch the messages, itnever shows 0 remaining (or no nuber)... it > says there is 1 ... if I quit and restart the app it goes away. > > Anyone else seeing this? Anyone even able to figure out what we are > saying? > > TjL > > > -- Best Regards Yuwen Cheng
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: duplex printing bug Date: 9 May 1997 19:55:54 GMT Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas Message-ID: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? Jacques Distler
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From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Make Money With Your Computer! Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 17:09:45 PDT Organization: Internet Communications Inc. Message-ID: <5l2kod$ipl$4735@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> E-Mail Your Way To Riches! Dear Friend, We all know E-mail is here to stay. It's fun, easy and exciting! Would you be interested if we could show you a way to make well over $1,000 per week doing it? This is not a joke. You may have seen many people trying to tell you that you can make money by joining this or that scheme! Guess what, you decide to go for it and then you get nothing but frustration and disappointment! We are here to take your frustration and disappointment into an Electrifying Adventure! We have been marketing on-line for almost 2 years now! We have never spent one red penny on advertising and made nothing but profits. We can show you how to make money every day of the year. 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We ordered your Creative E-mail System and within the first week we received over $1,150 in orders for my Internet Consulting business! --Charles -- California I have bought two so-called E-mail programs that cost me over $600.00 when I received them. They were extremely difficult to operate and it took me about two weeks to figure them out. Once I did, they were so time consuming it just wasn't worth my time. When I received your course it took me about four minutes to install and I was in business! Within the first 24 hours of my first E-mailing I received over $580.00 in sales over the phone. That first week I grossed over $2,000.00! I really can't believe how easy you made this, anyone can do it! Thanks! --Dennis -- Illinios Hello, I'm a divorced mother of two children. I wanted to thank you for helping me out. This was my first time buying anything on the Internet. I was skeptical at first but I figured I'd take a chance. This was the best chance I've ever took! My part-time business is now a full-time home-business, thanks to your Creative E-mail System. I had to hire my two family members to help me out! This is GREAT, thanks so much! I'd recommend this for anyone! --Ellen -- Florida You may have seen other people offering products "E-mail Programs, E-mail Addresses, Extractors, Etc." The vast majority of these products are very over-priced and very difficult to even use. None of them even supply you with current, up-to-date, FRESH & RESPONSIVE E-mail addresses! Our Creative E-mail System puts everything into one package to make your profits soar immediately! Even if you do not have a product or service to offer, we are going to give you over 500 how-to reports that you will have full reprint rights to! What makes our course different from anything else being offered anywhere is that we're dedicated to your success! We do not succeed unless you succeed! All of our E-mail Address Databases are created in house. We do not trade our databases with anyone because people are selling extremely bad lists on the Internet. Many of other people's databases are filled with duplicate addresses and many of them are undeliverable. We keep our own database so we know exactly what we have and we keep nothing but the best. There's no other way. We believe in producing high quality products that should be priced reasonably for your success! Read on to see the special bonuses you will receive. ******** SPECIAL 10 DAY BONUS ******** If you order within the next 10 days we will include: 1) 500 How-To Reports ( You may resell these at any price ) 2) Your Personal Complete Guide To The Internet -- This 175 page e-book covers every single aspect of the internet. You will never have to buy another internet book! When you complete this book, you will know more about the internet than 90% of the people online right now. 3) When you purchase our 8 MILLION SUPER responsive E-mail list we will include Mega-Mailer. It sends 250,000 E-mails per hour! All other orders will receive Pegasus Mail. It mails about 30,000 per hour. Here's how to get the Creative E-Mail System: All orders are delivered on CD-ROM or 100mb Zip Disk ( Iomega ). ============> E-Mail Databases <================ 2 Million FRESH E-mail Addresses only $ 99.95 4 Million FRESH E-mail Addresses only $179.95 6 Million FRESH E-mail Addresses only $249.95 8 Million FRESH E-mail Addresses only $299.95 You will be sending your Marketing Letter to 2, 4, 6 or 8 MILLION People! To mail to 2 MILLION People by U.S. Mail at $.32 per stamp would cost $640,000.00, not including envelopes or paper! The price of 2 MILLION E-mail Addresses isn't even a fraction of the cost. And the great thing is that if you have 10 products, you can E-mail to your list as many times as you want to! Your profits will never stop soaring! Don't pay someone else to send your advertisement out, do it yourself and save big money! The average cost right now to send your ad one time to ONE MILLION people is $1,400.00. You can send it 100 times to EIGHT MILLION people for only $299.95 and that includes Mega-Mailer that sends 250,000 per hour! ===============> Order Form <=============== Yes, Internet Communications Inc., I wish to take you up on your SPECIAL 10 DAY OFFER FOR YOUR CREATIVE E-MAIL SYSTEM, INCLUDING THE TWO SPECIAL BONUSES: "Complete Internet Guide Book" and "500 How-To-Reports". I understand I have to completely fill out the order form so you can fulfill my order. 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Zip Disk:______ CD-ROM:______Total:_______________ Pegasus Mail ( WIN 3.1 ) ( WIN 95 ) ( MAC ) (Circle One ) ============================================================= We Accept Checks By Fax Simply Tape Your Check Here With The Above Order Form And Fax It To: 1-216-895-1930 If you have any questions please call customer service at: 1-216-895-1919 Fax: 1-216-895-1930 Phone: 1-216-895-1919 ============================================================= Make check or money order payable to: Internet Communications Mail check or Money Order to: Internet Communications 30628 Detroit Ave. Suite 295 Westlake, Ohio 44145 The entire contents of this message are copyrighted and protected by both United States copyright laws and international treaty provisions. None of the text in this message may ever be reproduced, in original or modified form, for commercial purposes, without express written permission by Internet Communications Inc.. 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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <851862718425@digifix.com> Date: 11 May 1997 03:58:28 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. 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From: inet97@ameritech.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: cmsg cancel <5l2kod$ipl$4735@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Control: cancel <5l2kod$ipl$4735@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 05:35:34 +1 Organization: Internet Communications Inc. Message-ID: <cancel.5l2kod$ipl$4735@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> References: <5l2kod$ipl$4735@nntp0.cleveland.oh.ameritech.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "InternetCommunicationsInc" or "summary of auto-cancellations" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Make Money With Your Computer!.
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 20:51:42 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jacques Distler wrote: > > According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents > printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this > bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? > > Jacques Distler Try this: ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ hope it work stefan -- ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
From: distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 22:10:31 -0600 Organization: Physics Department, University of Texas at Austin Message-ID: <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> In article <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de>, Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> wrote: >> According to NeXTanswers 1831, there is a bug in NS 3.3 which prevents >> printing to an HP LaserJet 4Si-MX in duplex mode. Does anyone know if this >> bug has been fixed in a later release of OpensStep? >Try this: > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > >hope it work Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? Jacques
From: Grant Passmore<skaboy@usa.net> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Organization: Infusion Subject: Infusion BBS Software Message-ID: <33765d9d.0@data.wt.net> Date: 12 May 97 00:00:29 GMT I just thought I'd let everyone know.... There is finally a BBS Software with all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity, but without the bugs and bad support. Infusion BBS Software is a new generation in BBS Software, modeled after OBV/2 and Iniquity with everything that the sysop can imagine..and more. Some basic features are: o Multi-node upto 255 concurrent users o Light-bar support [arrow keys] o Requires NO Fossil Driver [selectable FOSSIL, ASYNC, and Digiboard for each node] o Online Configuration [menu editor, string editor, evemt editor, node editor, system editor, etc] o Pipe Color Codes o MCI Codes o Powerful scripting language o Internal One-Liners, Blacklist, voting booth, etc o Internal Z-Modem, X-Modem, Y-Modem, Y-modem-g [no limit to external protocols] o Internal COMM Program with internal protocols, Auto Up/DL o Great support o Basically all of the great features of OBV/2 and Iniquity combined Infusion has been picked up by fuEl [international art group], and Infusion 1.0th will be released June 10th. Come to the Infusion Home-Page at http://web.wt.net/~sparky/ibbs/ and jump into the JAVA Based Chatroom, or come to the ANNEX, the official Infusion IRC Server [irc.annex.net] #infusion / #bbs send the author skaboy101 [Grant Passmore] E-mail at skaboy@usa.net -lata skaboy101
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From: stryker@montana.edu (Christian Stryker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Strange ND System Problems Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 16:38:22 -0700 Organization: Montana State University Message-ID: <stryker-1305971638220001@news.montana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I've owned a NeXTdimension system for the past 5 years and have been quite happy with it. I recently purchased a second ND system and have been experiencing some strange problems that I'd like to solve. The problems are: Columns of files in the browser view sometimes change to all black NeXTTV camera icon sometimes refuses to freeze a video image NeXTTV palette sometimes changes to all black Rare but real system freezes while Backspace screensaver is running Rare strange boots (system will fail to display a login window and require a reboot) None of these problems has ever manifested itself on my earlier system and I'm having trouble tracking down exactly what might be causing these problems--the dimension board, software, disk problems, RAM malfunctions, etc. System Details: 25MHz cube 64MB RAM NeXTdimension board with 32MB VRAM 400MB Internal HD 2GB External HD OpenStep 4.0 Developer Has anyone heard of or experienced similar problems? Thanks. -Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Dr. Christian Stryker || Burns Telecommunications Center | | Educational Technologist || Montana State University | | 406-994-4660 (voice) || 128-I EPS Building | | 406-994-7856 (fax) || Bozeman, MT 59717-3860 | | stryker@montana.edu || http://www.montana.edu/btc | -----------------------------------------------------------------------
From: MaRK_BeSSeY@NeXT.CoM (Mark Bessey) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Mail.app 4.1: NXColorList could not parse color list Date: 15 May 1997 00:49:08 GMT Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Message-ID: <5ldmi4$t4m$1@news2.apple.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970507190018.5951A-100000@kira> Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> writes > > Everytime I start Mail.app I get this message: > > May 7 16:17:53 peace Mail[743]: NXColorList could not parse color list > file /NextLibrary/Colors/System.clr/System.clr > > Clues as to why and/or how to fix? This is a known bug in 4.1, but it doesn't cause any problems. You can safely ignore it. It's fixed in OPENSTEP 4.2. -- Mark Bessey Apple Computer, Inc. -->I DON'T SPEAK FOR APPLE<--
From: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (Uli Zappe) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: 15 May 1997 04:24:23 GMT Organization: Frankfurt University Computing Center Message-ID: <5le35n$3la@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote: > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > > > >hope it work > > Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. > > Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default > instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. No, it does much more than that. > Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? Yes. Works flawlessly. Bye Uli -- _____________________________________________________________________ Uli Zappe E-Mail: uli@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de (NeXTMail,Mime,ASCII) PGP on request Lorscher Strasse 5 WWW: - D-60489 Frankfurt Fon: +49 (69) 9784 0007 Germany Fax: +49 (69) 9784 0042 staff member of NEXTTOYOU - the German NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP magazine _____________________________________________________________________
From: Stefan Ried <ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.bugs,de.comp.sys.next Subject: Re: duplex printing bug Date: Thu, 15 May 1997 09:17:19 +0200 Organization: Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz, Germany Message-ID: <337AB87F.41C6@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> References: <5kvvga$ae6$2@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3376153E.167E@mpip-mainz.mpg.de> <distler-1105972210310001@slip-37-4.ots.utexas.edu> <5le35n$3la@tallowcross.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uli Zappe wrote: > > distler@golem.ph.utexas.edu (Jacques Distler) wrote: > > >ftp://ftp.cs.TU-Berlin.DE/pub/NeXT/misc/NEXTTOYOU/96.1-Fruehjahr/ > > > > > >hope it work > > > > Hmmm. . . . I'll try the modified ppd file out. But I am not optimistic. > > > > Looking at it, all I can see is that it makes duplex printing the default > > instead of simplex printing. I already tried doing that, to no avail. > > No, it does much more than that. > > > Has anyone actually gotten this to work on a LaserJet 4Si? > > Yes. Works flawlessly. > Yes finally I have my HP LJ 5SIMX working with simplex/duplex due to NeXT's Printpanel. At my side the fault was quite simple and related to the principal handling of ppd files. I had introduced the Printer, connected via HP JetDirect IP Interface, by a flat printcap entry, just like on any other unix but in netinfo instead of /etc/printcap. So the NeXT includes the options from ppd but did not really expand it, as this is done by the finally printing host. (NeXT is assuming that this is a NeXT again.) I had just to replace the printcap entry by a reasonable Entry made by PrintManager.app. There one could chooce "HP JetDirect" as Communication (besided Parallel and Seriell). Now every NeXT Station printing to the Printer IP Interface really expands all information introduced by ppd file(s). Thanks to David Andrew Knight <david@onestep.co.uk> for very competent informations on ppd and new versions of the ppd files. Stefan ______________________________________________________________________ /Stefan Ried, MPI f. Polymerforschung, Postf.3148, 55021 Mainz, F.R.G. \ | ... openstep, the biggest step | | E-Mail ried@mpip-mainz.mpg.de (MIME welcome) ...since the invention | | Telefon ++49 6131 379 267 Fax:++49 6131 379 340 ...of the __/___/ | | Project working on pattern-formation in liquid crystals /./\__/\\| | WWW http://www-theory.mpip-mainz.mpg.de/~ried ...wheel\_/ \_/| \______________________________________________________________________/
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From: ilk@mindspring.com (Chris Mullins) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: NEXT CUBE FOR SALE Date: Fri, 16 May 1997 19:26:29 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Message-ID: <337cb4da.20170022@news.mindspring.com> NEXT CUBE FOR SALE I have a NeXt cube with one system board for sale. It comes with: 2 17” Megapixel Monitors 1 N2000 Laser Printer Mouse and Keyboard. Cost is $499 Plus Shipping. I am not familiar with NeXt and can not tell you much about it, It has the NeXt mach OS and seems to have software still on it. I have the monitor cable (special ordered) but do not have a cable for the printer. All items are in excellent condition. It was being used at GaTech before I bought it. If you have any questions please call me at 770.420.5202 -Chris Mullins I also have 19” Fixed Scan Monitors for sale. Made by Hitachi: they come with a 128 Bit PCI Accelerator with 2.26 MB of ram. I am selling these at $549 plus shipping.
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <8856863323226@digifix.com> Date: 18 May 1997 03:57:15 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. 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From: beig@trefle.ens.fr (Jacques Beigbeder) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: netstat and Yellow Pages Date: 21 May 1997 17:38:55 GMT Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure, Paris, France Message-ID: <5lvbvf$ora$1@nef.ens.fr> Keywords: netstat, YP I have several boxes in Nextstep 3.3. I installed the last patch from ftp.next.com (3.3Intel68kPatch.pkg.tar). Here follows a session: tulipe:1# ypwhich acacia-gw tulipe:2# netstat ^Ctulipe:3# ypwhich ^Ctulipe:4# ps -augxnww | grep yp 0 105 0.0 1.6 1.57M 264K ? SW 0:00 (ypbind) 0 299 0.0 1.3 1.66M 208K p0 S 0:00 grep yp tulipe:5# So it happens that the YP deamin fails when netstat command is run. This workstation is configured to use YP for all requests, and not Netinfo. Any explanation? I prefer to get an answer by e-mail. -- Jacques Beigbeder | Internet: beig@ens.fr Service de Prestations Informatiques | http://www.spi.ens.fr Ecole normale superieure | 45 rue d'Ulm | Tel : 01 44 32 37 96 F75230 Paris Cedex 05 | Fax : 01 44 32 20 80
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From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <16065863928021@digifix.com> Date: 25 May 1997 03:57:50 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <12797864532834@digifix.com> Topics include: Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site eduSTEP WWW site NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site comp.sys.next newsgroups related newsgroups comp.sys.next newsgroups mailing list ftp sites NeXTanswers Stepwise NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information WWW site =============================================== This online community resource includes - ISV company pages - ISV product descriptions - NEXTSTEP Developer Directory - NEXTSTEP Community WhitePages - Mailing List archives and information You can connect via the world wide web at: http://www.stepwise.com/ Suggestions or comments can be directed to me at sanguish@digifix.com If you would like to get your company and product information on Stepwise, please contact me at sanguish@digifix.com. eduSTEP WWW site ================ http://www.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/eduStep/ eduStep aims to provide up-to-date information on: - NextStep tools and projects for scientists. - Third-party products interesting for the educational and scientific community (with educational discounts noted, where they exist). - A listing of resellers and shops interested in working with customers in the educational community. - Conferences, meetings, workshops - Major projects, such as SciTools, EMBL's project to develop a NextStep scientific work environment - Status reports on GNUStep, a freely-available implementation of OpenStep now being developed NeXT Computer, Inc. WWW site ============================ http://www.next.com comp.sys.next.* newsgroups ========================== news:comp.sys.next.advocacy This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. news:comp.sys.next.announce Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. news:comp.sys.next.bugs A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT- specific groups as well. news:comp.sys.next.hardware Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. news:comp.sys.next.marketplace NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. news:comp.sys.next.misc For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! news:comp.sys.next.programmer Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. news:comp.sys.next.software This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. news:comp.sys.next.sysadmin Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. Related Newsgroups ================== news:comp.soft-sys.nextstep Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. news:comp.lang.objective-c Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. news:comp.object Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com The ftp sites ============= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org - The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-muenchen.de: - (Peanuts) Located in Germany. ftp://ftp.dn.net/pub/next - Peanuts mirror in the US ftp://terra.stack.urc.tue.nl - (Dutch NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it - (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next - eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: - See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError Date: Wed, 28 May 1997 18:11:42 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528180753.11677I-100000@kira> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mail.app fails to open several mailboxes.... I get the above error message: May 28 18:23:27 peace Mail[529]: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError Has anyone ever seen this? Would anyone with 4.2/mach (intel) be willing to help me test this out? Thanks TjL -- TjL <luomat@peak.org> / http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ "The best things in life are made into inferior versions and bundled with the latest Microsoft systems" NS/OS users: My 'other sites' page has been entirely reworked
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From: boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Daniel Boehringer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError Date: 30 May 1997 12:07:54 GMT Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Message-ID: <5mmfuq$j95$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528180753.11677I-100000@kira> >May 28 18:23:27 peace Mail[529]: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError hi, as far as i remember this exception is risen from inside the indexing kit. this may mean that some ixstore inside the mailbox folder is corrupted. however: youst a guess, daniel
From: Timothy Luoma <luomat@peak.org> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 06:04:23 -0700 Organization: The PEAK FTP site for OpenStep & NeXTStep Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530060030.20589B-100000@kira> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528180753.11677I-100000@kira> <5mmfuq$j95$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: Daniel Boehringer <boehring@biomed.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> In-Reply-To: <5mmfuq$j95$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> > as far as i remember this exception is risen from inside the indexing kit. > this may mean that some ixstore inside the mailbox folder is corrupted. Thanks for the reply.... what would be ixstore'd inside the mailbox? I assume the table_of_contents... especially because this problem seems to temp go away if I remove the toc.... however it then gets corrupted again.... What would cause the toc to get corrupted like that again & again (without any noticable changes... no new mail has been saved to the mbox...) Thanks TjL
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: Unknown error code 9001 in NXReportError Date: 30 May 1997 20:45:20 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Message-ID: <5mne90$lbu$1@news.digifix.com> References: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970528180753.11677I-100000@kira> <5mmfuq$j95$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530060030.20589B-100000@kira> In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.96.970530060030.20589B-100000@kira> On 05/30/97, Timothy Luoma wrote: > > >> as far as i remember this exception is risen from inside the indexing kit. >> this may mean that some ixstore inside the mailbox folder is corrupted. > >Thanks for the reply.... > >what would be ixstore'd inside the mailbox? > > >I assume the table_of_contents... especially because this problem seems to >temp go away if I remove the toc.... however it then gets corrupted >again.... > If you are running the Enhanced Mail box bundle, it does indexing... try turning it off. -- Scott Anguish <sanguish@digifix.com> NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Information <URL:http://www.stepwise.com>
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