#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!199.0.154.56!ais.net!ameritech.net!uunet!in5.uu.net!ftl.msen.com!not-for-mail From: Terry Gliedt Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NetBSD/NeXT - interested? Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 10:31:52 -0500 Organization: Software Toolsmiths Lines: 20 Message-ID: <34A3CDE8.5CF0F31@hps.com> References: <67l7ou$424$1@nntp2.ba.best.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tr33-d34.msen.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; U; Linux 2.0.31 i586) To: William Coldwell , black-linux@black.linux-m68k.org CC: boom@sonyx.com, Trevin Beattie , Chuck Swiger William Coldwell wrote: > > Since 4.2 appears to be the end of life for the Nextstep/Openstep software, > that leaves our wonderful black hardware high and dry. I've got enough > people together who are interested in working on the port (but more are > always welcome!) to make it happen. But, you gotta do something. > > Help me find some hardware specifications on the black hardware! I've been asked to make readers of this news group aware of a similiar effort on black hardware by a Linux group. They too are struggling with the lack of documentation etc. This seems like an obvious time for some collaboration by the two groups. The Black-Linux group has a mailing list at black-linux@black.linux-m68k.org -- ================================================================ Terry Gliedt tpg@hps.com http://www.hps.com/~tpg/ Software Toolsmiths For all your Internet programming needs #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!131.103.1.116!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!mr.net!spock-testing.mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Chris Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black HW monitor bugs Date: 26 Dec 1997 16:40:36 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 29 Message-ID: <680mm4$hgr$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port153.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) fmlazar@fc.copytoneonline.com (Frank Lazar) wrote: > >I have a Turbo slab with the 17' Trinitron black monitor which is showing >some bowing. Are there controls hidden somewhere that adjust centering >and shape like most monitors have? The only ones I've found are the ones >in the front. If you remove the black plastic cover from the back of the monitor, you will reveal a steel box, or cage, which protects the CRT, wiring, etc. On both the right and left sides of this box, mostly near the bottom, there are little ports through which a number of small controls (with names like H-SIZE, PIN-BAL, V-FREQ, etc) may be accessed. You need just the right tool (something like a small, plastic, phillips screwdriver) to manipulate these. Check on top of the metal cage: This tool was conveniently stowed in a little niche there inside my monitor. There is more info on this in the NeXT FAQ, wherein among other things the writer warns you to be careful while poking around in your monitor lest you electrocute yourself. This is good advice, and you may want to follow it rather than do as I did, which is leave cover off the monitor for several days while tinkering to get just the right settings. --Chris ************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net MIME, Sun, NeXTMail OK "Sacred Cows make the best hamburger" -- Mark Twain #################################################################### Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 01:26:23 -0500 From: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Turbo MB (ADB ROM) works well with non-ADB setup? Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.214.118 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 25 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news1.ibm.net!slip129-37-214-118.oh.us.ibm.net!user In article , tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: > Hi, this is the scoop: > > I have a turbo ND cube and non-ADB keyboard, sound box and moouse. > When I put a non-ADB ROM (v71), I could never manage to set the boot > console on the color display, even though I tried NDbootscreen apps. > > Then the original owner kindly sent the ADB ROM (v74) back to me. > With this ROM, I got the boot console back without making any > major changes. However, now the sound keys have no effect. > I can see the sound slider move from the Preference.app, but > still the same sound level. The sound works ok, just the level. > > Do I have to run this cube with ADB setup? I've used turbo slab > with non-ADB ROM and I did not have any problem (no ND involved). > > Any help will be appreciated. I have a Turbo ND Cube with ADB ROM. I swapped out the ADB SoundBox for a non-ADB SoundBox because I like the non-ADB keyboard better. I have no problems with sound, video, or anything. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: cmsg cancel <34aaab81.0@news.fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> Control: cancel <34aaab81.0@news.fh-vorarlberg.ac.at> Date: 31 Dec 1997 20:34:02 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: you@somehost.somedomain (Quit Smoking Now) Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!newscore.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.fh-vorarlberg.ac.at!orldialup73.intellistar.net X-Original-Subject: Lifesign Quit Smoking Program Featured in Omni, Discovery, Time, and Newsweek http://www.quitsmokingforever.com X-Original-Date: 31 Dec 97 20:30:57 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: orldialup73.intellistar.net X-Original-From: you@somehost.somedomain (Quit Smoking Now) X-CosmoTraq: VW*'1)U*`W`F1ZSE%K62@O\T^O.O_S_^`02G0Q-E0]E2&S+9$K1,FBLT X-Cancel-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca I'm wondering if anyone's had a similar problem. I've installed both serial ports, booting -v reports no problems, the portserver is installed, and boot -v says that the portserver starts up properly. Now, I try to use any application which accesses the /dev/cufb port, and nothing happens. Before i installed the portserver, i would get messages that the device does not exist, etc. now I get no messages, but the modem simply remains inactive. I'm using white hardware, and an internal Hayes Accura 33.6/56k. Also, is there any way to achieve the effect of booting -v automatically, without having to enter -v at the boot prompt every time? Thanks. -- %[ Paul Kiela -- ranma@gemini.physics.mcmaster.ca: EF Tok, Quake Tok ]%. %[ . T . h . e . T . r . a . g . i . c . a . l . l . y . H . i . p . ]%. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT DSP Q. Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 08:25:19 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 10 Message-ID: <34AC33EB.885FFBE2@bah.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-174.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 883700698 22953 (None) 128.229.201.174 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi All, I see some ppl are trying to buy DSP RAM upgrade for their system. May I ask what's the advantage of having more RAM in the DSP? And what the DSP do other than sound generation? TIA, TC #################################################################### From: bbm@vcn.bc.ca Subject: Help Spam Spammers Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1998 07:21:05 -0600 Reply-To: bogus@here.com Message-ID: <883659575.668663817@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.idt.net!nntp.texas.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 01 12:59:35 1998 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: bbm@vcn.bc.ca X-Http-User-Agent: Lynx/2.6 libwww-FM/2.14 X-Originating-IP-Addr: 207.102.64.2 (opus.vcn.bc.ca) Lines: 12 Hi there, we are giving spammers a dose of thier own medicine. We set up an email account, so that it forwards it's mail to a list of known spammers. Then, the email address is used in usenet postings. When the spammers com around, they effectively end up spamming themselves. If a company uses a 'spam-service' and gets spammed themselves, perhaps they will stop using the technique. So, if you have an address to submit, sent it to:bbm@99.vcn.bc.ca(remove the 99) (Just go the the Spam-ees website, and gather some emails) Thanx! (also, if you can submit the original spam message, that wouldbe cool) -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: /dev/cufb problem. Date: 1 Jan 1998 17:04:34 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 24 Message-ID: <68gib2$3c6$2@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <68e5ap$hp9@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) wrote: > > I'm wondering if anyone's had a similar problem. I've installed >both serial ports, booting -v reports no problems, the portserver is >installed, and boot -v says that the portserver starts up properly. Now, I >try to use any application which accesses the /dev/cufb port, and nothing >happens. Before i installed the portserver, i would get messages that the >device does not exist, etc. now I get no messages, but the modem simply >remains inactive. I'm using white hardware, and an internal Hayes Accura >33.6/56k. Are you sure there is no IRQ conflict on IRQ3 (the 2nd serial port)? > Also, is there any way to achieve the effect of booting -v >automatically, without having to enter -v at the boot prompt every time? Try Configure.app, Experts mode, Boot Graphics = No. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Maxtor 8.4G Problems Date: 1 Jan 1998 17:12:37 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 26 Message-ID: <68giq5$3c6$3@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <34AB05BE.94E5A012@mcleod.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Robert Ray wrote: >I am having problems getting my Intel OpenStep system to recognize more >than a single 2G partition of a Maxtor 8.4G drive. > >I am in the process of setting up a dual boot system with Win95 and >OpenStep. I first partitioned the disk and loaded Win95. Win95 is >limited to 2G partitions therefore the disk is made up of four 2G >partitions. After completing the Win95 installation I start through the >OpenStep installation and OpenStep fails to recognize any other >partition than a single 2G partition. You have to partition your disk with only one primary partition for Nextstep. In this partition Nextstep creates several partitions by its own, because it can handle only partitions up to 2GB. You have to include these partitions in /etc/fstab after installation is finished to automatically mount them. Nextsstep is unable to recognize logical partitions in an extended partition. You are only able to see the first primary DOS partition under Nextstep. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <68hfjv$lmm@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <68hfjv$lmm@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com> Date: 02 Jan 1998 01:32:01 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!ix.netcom.com!news X-Original-Subject: Debt Consolidations Loan Manual X-Original-Date: 2 Jan 1998 01:24:15 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: peo-il2-12.ix.netcom.com X-Original-From: X-CosmoTraq: .;8E=GW@52(2QFB05CM_9NFNV15D\I)6`2Z]+T4*`\5J0U?&,JQPGDE7 X-Cancel-ID: +DLNA_H-P(W0V0GK^@TD:%Y[7K NNTP-Posting-Host: titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca I hate to ask so soon after my recent battle with /dev/cufb (which i resolved, thanks to many a reply, thanks very :), but I just bought a SB16 card to stick into the OpenStep machine. To my dismay, this was a PnP product. I stuck it in, installed the driver, made sure that PnP was enabled on the proper bus package, and rebooted. Many a reboot later, i'm still getting the same error message. Basically, it tells me the it can't find the card at the configured location. I read through some documentation, and it said to make sure that bios was not claiming any of the DMAs that the SB might be. I disabled all DMAs in bios that i could find, the system works fine, the SB won't. Finally, i thought that maybe it might be the actual address. I assume the that factory defaults would be 0x220 @ irq 5, but i have no way of testing this. I recieved a CDrom with drivers (and, i assume, a configuration tool) for the card, but unfortunately its Win95 based. The card is completely jumperless, so its impossible to disable PnP as it is on my other PnP peripherals. Is there any easy way to diagnose this problem? If anyone's won this battle, i'd appreciate some input. Please take into consideration that i've searched NeXTAnswers for recent drivers, updated drivers, and all gave the same result. Thanks very. P. -- %[ Paul Kiela -- ranma@gemini.physics.mcmaster.ca: EF Tok, Quake Tok ]%. %[ . T . h . e . T . r . a . g . i . c . a . l . l . y . H . i . p . ]%. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!130.211.50.75!inet-prime.comshare.com!valhalla.comshare.com!not-for-mail From: mikep@-nospam-izzy.net (Michael Pelletier) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cartriges for NeXT color printer? Date: 2 Jan 1998 13:23:31 -0500 Organization: I Speak Only for Myself, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <68jbb3$e2u@valhalla.comshare.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: valhalla.comshare.com It seems that all the office supply stores in the area have stopped carrying this type of ink cartrige. We ran out of Cyan, but we've only been able to get a magenta so far from someone's dusty back room stock. Anyone know a good (or even not so good!) source for these cartriges? Thanks! -Mike Pelletier. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mike for use with black hardware? Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 21:09:32 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <34A64F8B.D441BBF4@bah.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-174.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 883314560 14269 (None) 128.229.201.174 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi all, Just wondering if I can use a mike from an old Mac LC era on my NSTC? I' having an ADB type soundbox. Or can a SUN SPARC mike work? TIA, TC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!hone!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca!spartan From: spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: /dev/cufb problem. Date: 2 Jan 1998 17:56:15 GMT Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (NewServer) Lines: 23 Message-ID: <68j9nv$r00@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> References: <68e5ap$hp9@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> <68gib2$3c6$2@nexusgate.oche.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca In article <68gib2$3c6$2@nexusgate.oche.de>, Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply wrote: >Are you sure there is no IRQ conflict on IRQ3 (the 2nd serial port)? > Yup. I had removes the second port from BIOS before installing the modem, as i heard pppd doesn't ilke anything above /dev/cu(f)b. As it turns out, the problem was pppd itself. It refused to access cufb directly with chat. I now do dialup via kermit, and long for the olden days of using DIP on a linux machine. It'd be nice to see a port of this particuliar program :>. >> Also, is there any way to achieve the effect of booting -v >>automatically, without having to enter -v at the boot prompt every time? > >Try Configure.app, Experts mode, Boot Graphics = No. > Thanks very :) -- %[ Paul Kiela -- ranma@gemini.physics.mcmaster.ca: EF Tok, Quake Tok ]%. %[ . T . h . e . T . r . a . g . i . c . a . l . l . y . H . i . p . ]%. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric Subject: cmsg cancel <68jitr$52u@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Control: cancel <68jitr$52u@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> Date: 02 Jan 1998 20:38:53 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: rblusmdh@goodtimes.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!ais.net!ix.netcom.com!news X-Original-Subject: Check This Out X-Original-Date: 2 Jan 1998 20:32:59 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: okc-ok1-21.ix.netcom.com X-Original-From: rblusmdh@goodtimes.com X-CosmoTraq: @2@):,V<]=3JP-$6NZVN6Y"PM*)]S6]XKQ*%#&@8*_`VWU0RXERMU>C5?H-CKWXT&XJJ[YCS56C X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.eerie.fr!news.dotcom.fr!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: 2 Jan 1998 23:10:36 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 34 Message-ID: <68js5c$g0c$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: val2-162.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) wrote: > Many a reboot later, i'm still getting the same error message. >Basically, it tells me the it can't find the card at the configured >location. I read through some documentation, and it said to make sure that >bios was not claiming any of the DMAs that the SB might be. I disabled all >DMAs in bios that i could find, the system works fine, the SB won't. >Finally, i thought that maybe it might be the actual address. I assume >the that factory defaults would be 0x220 @ irq 5, but i have no way of >testing this. I recieved a CDrom with drivers (and, i assume, a >configuration tool) for the card, but unfortunately its Win95 based. The >card is completely jumperless, so its impossible to disable PnP as it is >on my other PnP peripherals. Is there any easy way to diagnose this >problem? If anyone's won this battle, i'd appreciate some input. > From my own battle i can now give some tips: - first be sure to update your ISA/EISA bus driver to 3.36 because pnp support is better and you will get a boot message giving you the auto-detect ID of uor card. Here is mine : Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL00f0 s/n 0xffffffff - second check this ID vith those in SB16 driver (expert panel) and possibly add it to the list - third some adresses heve to be modified i.e. 0x330-0x331 read now 0x300-0x301. I got it from Win95 setup and maybe your card do not need this modification. - finally i use my card in 8bit DMA at the moment, because i did't get it working in 16bit. A folk mailed to me that it may be due to Win95 / NS setup interaction. I can play sound but not record. If you get more information please forward since i'm still battling (see my recent message in this group on 23/12/97)... -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <34acac6f.7465944@news.swbell.net> Control: cancel <34acac6f.7465944@news.swbell.net> Date: 02 Jan 1998 09:32:09 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: evilstar_@swbell.net (Star Richards) Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news-xfer.netaxs.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!151.164.1.34!swbell!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: WTB/WTS HEWLETT PACKARD PRINTERS AND PERIPHERALS X-Original-Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 09:29:57 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-151-164-37-35.rcsntx.swbell.net X-Original-From: evilstar_@swbell.net (Star Richards) X-Original-X-Trace: nnrp3.rcsntx.swbell.net 883733510 21363 (None) 151.164.37.35 X-CosmoTraq: 653E4E-BY;H"1CA?]/;,8(22%EEBFWGZLUJ/(%)B&H8C80W%6+="RPHD X-Cancel-ID: 8,&[%)>J31I&"W^XPM7QWI#QZT3'VGU*=CNOZ/(%(0[`(1MT]PJM>J9K X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes Date: 3 Jan 1998 17:53:36 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 41 Message-ID: <68ltv0$mca$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-101.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Jason J. Gullickson" wrote: > I remember reading something in one of the newsgroups about how to >install multiple processor cards in the black cubes so you could use the >multiprocessing/ws farming support (renderman, etc) without having multiple >boxes. > > What I would like to do is setup four processor cards (one Color Turbo >and three mono turbos) in one box, and then network them via switched >10BaseT Note - none of the NeXTstation motherboards fit in a cube nor do they have the necessary NeXTbus connector to get power. Hence a Color Turbo motherboard (which only exist in a NeXTstation form factor) wont work. Are you referring to a NeXTdimesion board instead? This is true of mono station motherboards - they don't fit. You can install up to four motherboards, Turbo or non, in a cube case _if_ you hack the backplane to make the slots id #0. You must also solve the net booting problem - namely having all the secondary motherboards boot via ethernet off somewhere else since you're not going to be able to hang a hard disk off each. I've did this a while back following the "dual CPU" doc on the archives and it wasn't too difficult. Also, if you plan to run a NeXTdimesion board in there too you'll have to make sure only one of the motherboards has the NBIC chip installed. That said, it may well be easier just to buy three Turbo color slabs, about $50 each. Personally, if I were to set up a CPU farm that's the way I'd do it. Not as cool and a quad-CPU NeXTcube but a lot easier to setup and administer. And given that a turbo cube motherboard lists at $550 at Deepspace Tech (and assuming you can even find one) this'll also be a lot cheaper setup. Check out the doc ftp:://ftp.next.peak.org/pub/next/documents/misc/ual.CPU.Back.Plane.txt - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac IP printing to a NeXTprinter? Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 08:18:03 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <34A6EC3A.D98AB238@bah.com> References: <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-174.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 883354670 24543 (None) 128.229.201.174 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) To: mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net Mitch, Thanks for the reply. I know about CAPer... but my question here is can I use the latest LaserWriter driver on the Mac that DOES support LPR printing to print to a NeXTprinter? TIA, TC mitchell.allen@worldnet.att.net wrote: > In article <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com>, chongt@bah.com wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Just wondering if I can do LPR printing to my NeXTprinter via > > LaserWriter 8.5.1 driver on my Mac? Currently, I'm already doing LPR > > printing to LaserWriter 16/600 PS and HP 5simx & HP HP4simx. > > > > If yes, what's the procedure? What will be the IP address of the > > NeXTprinter, queue name? > > > Well, you certainly can if you are running CAPer.app on your NeXT and > serving up the printer as a laserwriter for the Macs. You can't use true > type fonts though. Only postscript or true types that have a postscript > equivalent. > > Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.116!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!144.92.88.12!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't Boot CDROM's Date: 3 Jan 1998 18:04:02 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 29 Message-ID: <68luii$mca$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <68kqef$4te$1@news.itis.com> <68lltq$71e$1@news.xmission.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-101.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> wrote: >Jason J. Gullickson wrote: >> >> I have a 040 (non-turbo) NeXT cube with an external Toshiba CDROM drive >> attached. The drive works just fine when I use it to access disc's once the >> O/S is up and running, but I can't seem to boot the system from the NeXTStep >> 3.0 disc that came with the system. > >According to answer >#1381, non-Turbo systems cannot boot directly from the CD. What you >need is the NeXT boot floppy, which you can find in answer #1921. Correct, though its actually the ROM version that matters, not whether or not its Turbo. You can also do this by setting the CD-ROM SCSI id less that the hard disk, and then booting (off the hard disk). After the boot block gets loaded (off the hard disk) it'll continue the rest of the boot off the lowest SCSI id, namely the CD-ROM. I used to have to play games like that with my old cube whenever I wanted to upgrade or re-install the OS because I didn't have a floppy. The problem is the older ROMs don't know about CD-ROM devices to be able to load the boot blocks off them. More to the point though, why do you want to boot off the CD-ROM? All this will do if ask if you want to install the OS. You can't (I'm pretty certain) run the OS off the original NeXT CD-ROMs. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.117.161.1!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!news.acsu.buffalo.edu!srv1.drenet.dnd.ca!crc-news.doc.ca!nott!hone!informer1.cis.McMaster.CA!titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca!spartan From: spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: 3 Jan 1998 17:10:46 GMT Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (NewServer) Lines: 38 Message-ID: <68lrem$1rr@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> <68js5c$g0c$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca In article <68js5c$g0c$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr>, Max Barel wrote: >From my own battle i can now give some tips: >- first be sure to update your ISA/EISA bus driver to 3.36 because pnp support is better and you will get a boot message >giving you the auto-detect ID of uor card. Here is mine : >Dec 23 20:54:10 mbac mach: PnP: csn 1: CTL00f0 s/n 0xffffffff > >- second check this ID vith those in SB16 driver (expert panel) and possibly add it to the list > >- third some adresses heve to be modified i.e. 0x330-0x331 read now 0x300-0x301. I got it from Win95 setup and maybe your >card do not need this modification. > >- finally i use my card in 8bit DMA at the moment, because i did't get it working in 16bit. A folk mailed to me that it >may be due to Win95 / NS setup interaction. I can play sound but not record. > >If you get more information please forward since i'm still battling (see my recent message in this group on 23/12/97)... I got my card working thanks to a very rapid response (phew. almost no waiting. A world bette rthan M$ Tech support :) from another reader. This solution, however, involved my turning off PnP, which left my ethernet card sitting quite useless. Its fine for now, since my only intention for the card was to set up a little network at home, but for now, sound outweighs productivity :). What I did, was to disable PnP altogether, and force card detection at 0x220 DMA 1, IRQ 5. I also was unable to use the 16bit DMA, but that may very wel be the card's limitation. I don't recall much from the manual, but i'll live with it. Although now that you mentioned possible PnP fixes, i'll go out and give them a try. it'd be quite nice to have both cards working.. Thanks. P. -- %[ Paul Kiela -- ranma@gemini.physics.mcmaster.ca: EF Tok, Quake Tok ]%. %[ . T . h . e . T . r . a . g . i . c . a . l . l . y . H . i . p . ]%. #################################################################### From: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us Subject: Matrox Millenium/Word 97/HP 820 driver error Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 19:11:41 -0600 Reply-To: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us Message-ID: <883789337.425787400@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Jan 03 01:02:17 1998 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.0; SK; Windows 95) X-Originating-IP-Addr: 198.189.124.28 () Lines: 11 Help??? I purchased Dell 200Mhz with Matrox millenium card. When I change to 800x600 or above resolution, I can no longer printer to my HP 820 printer through Microsoft Word 97. Anybody heard of this one? Which should I throw away? -thanks george -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!newstank.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <68l3iu$4qn$1@fox.dpliv.com> Control: cancel <68l3iu$4qn$1@fox.dpliv.com> Date: 03 Jan 1998 10:11:06 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: capmaster@fox.dpliv.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.31.254.2!fox.dpliv.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Virtual Pet X-Original-Date: 3 Jan 1998 04:23:26 -0600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: fox.dpliv.com X-Original-From: sales@dino-g.com X-CosmoTraq: X4#!9D5,*V80[(R@YWTR"+!4XLOVNH?5KUO0>`TP*+)[!5#D0=4YGVA= X-Cancel-ID: QLR&WU5H&.51<8920E6+Y?;\M@^%F$@5@:&V@G*%NQ4F+.8_M References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca I'm not sure if this will help. Under 4.1 this is my setup: SoundBlaster 16 (8 and 16 bit DMA) (v.400) DMA = 1 & 5 Port 20 bytes at 0x220 IRQ 5 ISA/EISA Bus support v4.00 has PNP turned OFF. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem Suggestions for Black? Date: 3 Jan 1998 03:30:30 GMT Lines: 11 Message-ID: <19980103033000.WAA02331@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Would anyone offer some suggestions as to any current modems that work well with black hardware? I have been trying to use a supra express33.3 off of a macintosh and havent had any luck getting it to work.(the cable is permently connected to the modem so i cant use the correct cable) also what about cable modems? anyone using one? Thanks Mark #################################################################### From: creat-jk@wdc.net Subject: is wacom tablet possible at turbo color non adb? Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 01:51:08 -0600 Message-ID: <883380937.1991966725@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Dec 29 07:35:37 1997 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: creat-jk@wdc.net X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.03 (Macintosh; U; 68K) X-Originating-IP-Addr: 198.147.73.14 (pp14.wdc.net) Lines: 7 I want to use my mac's wacom tablet at turbo color non adb. is it possible or not? if it is ok, what do I need (some driver)? -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't Boot CDROM's Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 08:36:25 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 17 Message-ID: <68lltq$71e$1@news.xmission.com> References: <68kqef$4te$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slc85.modem.xmission.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) Jason J. Gullickson wrote: > > I have a 040 (non-turbo) NeXT cube with an external Toshiba CDROM drive > attached. The drive works just fine when I use it to access disc's once the > O/S is up and running, but I can't seem to boot the system from the NeXTStep > 3.0 disc that came with the system. I saw this in NeXTanswers last night when I was working on a related problem (the CD would boot but I had to be in verbose mode first, and the hd would not boot after a clean install). According to answer #1381, non-Turbo systems cannot boot directly from the CD. What you need is the NeXT boot floppy, which you can find in answer #1921. -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!hay.news.ans.net!news-w.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.fanniemae.com!news-admn@fanniemae.com From: Michael Rousseau Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Mac IP printing to a NeXTprinter? Date: 29 Dec 1997 13:44:32 GMT Organization: Fannie Mae Lines: 30 Message-ID: <6889g0$9j1@postman.fanniemae.com> References: <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: rotflmao.staging.fanniemae.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I used to use the freeware/shareware (don't recall the status) program "lpr" on Mac OS to print from my home Mac to my NeXT 400dpi printer at the office. The downside is that you can only print one file at a time, which you specify through an open panel. But, I found it did work nicely for text. It did not render graphics, if I recall. The installation instructions are in the lpr package. It requires LaserWriter 8.0 on Mac. You can probably find what you need on archie or a Yahoo search. Hope this helps, Mike >In article <34A5C86A.A294CAAB@bah.com>, chongt@bah.com wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> Just wondering if I can do LPR printing to my NeXTprinter via >> LaserWriter 8.5.1 driver on my Mac? Currently, I'm already doing LPR >> printing to LaserWriter 16/600 PS and HP 5simx & HP HP4simx. >> >> If yes, what's the procedure? What will be the IP address of the >> NeXTprinter, queue name? >> #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.184.165.4!news.interport.net!not-for-mail From: sinistar@sinistar.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 3 Jan 1998 22:21:40 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sinistar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hello all.. Thought I'd share this interesting discovery. From what I understand, conventional wisdom is that you can't use high-speed modems on black hardware, because the serial ports won't go that fast. Well, I happened to have my X2 USR Sportster here at home for a day thought I'd try it on my color turbo slab, just to see what would happen. To my surprise, after immediately connecting at 50000 to my ISP, things worked beautifully. All net activities were of course much faster than my normal 28.8, and the machine never dropped carrier. I'm using it to post this article, and things seem perfect after many hours of staying connected to the ISP. YMMV, but it's worth a look. sinistar@sinistar.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.184.165.4!news.interport.net!not-for-mail From: sinistar@sinistar.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem Suggestions for Black? Date: 3 Jan 1998 22:23:08 GMT Organization: Interport Communications Corp. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <68mdoc$m9p$2@broadway.interport.net> References: <19980103033000.WAA02331@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sinistar.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: markm3leit@aol.com In <19980103033000.WAA02331@ladder01.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > Would anyone offer some suggestions as to any current modems that work well > with black hardware? I have been trying to use a supra express33.3 off of a > macintosh and havent had any luck getting it to work.(the cable is permently > connected to the modem so i cant use the correct cable) > > also what about cable modems? anyone using one? > > > Thanks > Mark > > You need the right cable. Try http://www.deepspacetech.com, they have them. Obviously, you'll need a modem that doesn't have an integral cable. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!het.net!gate.news.unisource.nl!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!xs4all!nestorix2.xs4all.nl!not-for-mail From: eddy@sysresc.net (Ed) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,de.markt.comp.hardware,dk.edb.hardware,fido.ger.hardware Subject: New system Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:37:22 +0100 Organization: XS4ALL, networking for the masses Lines: 6 Sender: @ztm04-25.dial.xs4all.nl Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ztm04-25.dial.xs4all.nl X-XS4ALL-Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 23:37:32 CET X-XS4ALL-User: eddy1@xs4all.nl on ztm04-25.dial.xs4all.nl X-Newsreader: Anawave Gravity v2.00 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:31846 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:34682 comp.sys.sun.hardware:54394 de.markt.comp.hardware:21527 dk.edb.hardware:43 fido.ger.hardware:37236 I got a new system and revieuwed it on a very pretty site. I even putted a nice database on it that you can search. http://www.sysresc.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: daj@nwu.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: problems with cdaudio Date: 3 Jan 1998 23:46:44 GMT Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 20 Distribution: world Message-ID: <68mil4$ms6$1@excalibur.flash.net> Reply-To: daj@nwu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: ctc17-68.flash.net X-Newsreader: Kiwi [version .11] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29341 comp.sys.next.hardware:31847 I'm running OpenStep 4.2 at home. I'm having some problem with playing audio CD's. When a put an audio CD in I get the following in my console: probing for DOS probing for CDROM probing for mac probing for cdaudio Jan 3 17:32:05 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio cdutil: openDrive: Couldn't open /dev/rsd3h (-1) cdutil: openDrive: Permission denied After I manually eject [by presssing the eject button] the audio CDROM then the I can't even mount a standard NeXTStep formatted CD. Can anyone give me a clue what the problem is? I've looked for cdaudio in the Librarian and in my documentation and I can't find a single reference. Thank's in advance, David (daj@nwu.edu) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!news.dra.com!cyberusa.com!pp153.cyberusa.com!zas003 From: Rich Bright Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Recycle Parts into Macs Date: 29 Dec 1997 18:28:54 GMT Organization: None Lines: 21 Distribution: world Message-ID: <688q56$856$1@cyberusa.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pp153.cyberusa.com X-UserAgent: Version 1.1.3 X-XXMessage-ID: X-XXDate: Mon, 29 Dec 97 17:33:16 GMT A local engineering firm has two thin black NeXT computers with 17" color monitors they are trying to get rid of. I've read the FAQs here but need to know if I know that I think I know. 1. The NeXT computers use standard 50 pin SCSI hard drives which could be recycled into a Mac if repartioned, formatted etc. Typically these drives are 330 or 660 Mb. 2. They typically use RAM which might work in some Macs or PCs 3. Somebody sells a cable which will allow the 17 monitor to connect to a Mac. 4. Black hardware typically has little value. Any help would be appreciated. Rich Bright #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!rtd.com!not-for-mail From: "Thunder" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Processors and Motherboards at Unbelievable Prices !!! Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 17:49:23 -0700 Organization: RTD Systems & Networking, Inc. Lines: 41 Message-ID: <68mmef$lu9$1@baygull.rtd.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialtus1-112.rtd.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Processors and Motherboards at Unbelievable Prices !!! Brand New Pentium Processors for Sale... __Intel__ Pentium II 300MHz Klamath CPU - $750 Pentium II 266MHz Klamath CPU - $550 Pentium II 233MHz Klamath CPU - $450 Pentium Pro CPU - $550 Pentium 233MHz MMX CPU - $350 Pentium 200MHz MMX CPU - $300 Pentium 166MHz MMX CPU - $250 Pentium 200MHz CPU - $250 Pentium 166MHz CPU - $200 Pentium 150MHz CPU - $150 Pentium 133MHz CPU - $150 Pentium 100MHz CPU - $100 __AMD__ K-6 Pentium 233MHz MMX - $300 K-6 Pentium 200MHz MMX - $250 K-6 Pentium 166MHz MMX - $200 K-5 Pentium 166MHz - $150 K-5 Pentium 150MHz - $125 K-5 Pentium 100MHz - $100 Motherboards __Intel__ Pentium Motherboard - 3-PCI,3-ISA,512K Pipeline,1 PCI-ISA Shared Flash BIOS,4-72 Pin, up to 128MB RAM $150 Pentium Motherboard - 3-PCI,3-ISA,512K Pipeline,1 PCI-ISA Shared Flash BIOS,4-72 Pin, up to 128MB RAM, 82430TX Chipset $200 Pentium II Motherboard (Fits AT Case) - 3-PCI, 4-ISA, 4-72 PIN, 2 DIMM, TX Formfactor, up to 512MB RAM, AT or ATX, LX Chipset $300 Pentium II Motherboard - 5-PCI, 3-ISA, 4-72 PIN, 2 DIMM, TX Formfactor, up to 512MB RAM, AT or ATX, LX Chipset $350 Drop me an email !!! -Dan #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: "Carlos P. Madrid" Subject: Re: black hardware newbie Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <34A7DC9B.63CD@flirt.com> Sender: news@nosc.mil Reply-To: carlos@flirt.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: sales@w2000.com Organization: FLIRT Online References: <683r6a$ddm$1@madrid.visi.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 17:23:39 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (WinNT; U) Lines: 14 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!newsfeed.usit.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!128.125.253.136!usc!newshub.cts.com!newshub.nosc.mil!news!news On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Chad K Johnson wrote: > Has anyone bought hardware from these people? I am looking for a complete > system that I can run out of the box that includes all manuals and disks. I would recommend WorkStation 2000 (http://www.w2000.com) for custom-configured NeXTSTEP/OpenStep systems.  They have great rates and completely warrant their products.  Their tech support is extremely prompt and knowledgeable. >I am looking for a complete system that I can run out of the box that includes all >manuals and disks. Used systems usually don't have manuals/disks; what's installed is what you get. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <68mr0h$9t$1@fox.dpliv.com> Control: cancel <68mr0h$9t$1@fox.dpliv.com> Date: 04 Jan 1998 02:09:36 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: capmaster@fox.dpliv.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.31.254.2!fox.dpliv.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Virtual Pet X-Original-Date: 3 Jan 1998 20:09:21 -0600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: fox.dpliv.com X-Original-From: sales@dino-g.com X-CosmoTraq: D3#11M5,>_;`'$VQUCQC:"$58UOW^@=U[ROA*$Q0>*)+=7#T(:TQAS`= X-Cancel-ID: :G"^%YFL4!WU%2KVX_8OB9J@[D?)W(!-)45:)A,F7[G*T!YW^0RP?55U X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.116!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!144.92.88.12!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!wiscnews.wiscnet.net!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 4 Jan 1998 02:13:34 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 22 Message-ID: <68mr8e$1kg8$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f180-205.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) sinistar@sinistar.com wrote: >Thought I'd share this interesting discovery. >From what I understand, conventional wisdom is that you can't use high-speed >modems on black hardware, because the serial ports won't go that fast. The problem is more that because the serial port is limited to 57600bps max the serial port speed start becoming the limiting factor on high speed modems rather than the phone link. You can run an X2 modem fine and it'll be fast, but not as fast as it would be if the serial port speed could go higher. Having a higher speed serial port allows you to take advantage of the modem's build-in compression algorithms, eg MNP 5 and V.42bis, to pump data across at (theoretically) 4 times the raw transmision speed. But considering a lot of stuff is compressed anyway, eg tar.gz files and JPEG images, the potential compression gains are not that great so the phone connection speed is still typically the limiting factor. - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Modem Suggestions for Black? Date: 4 Jan 1998 02:43:44 GMT Organization: none Lines: 22 Message-ID: <68mt10$chv$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <19980103033000.WAA02331@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: markm3leit@aol.com In <19980103033000.WAA02331@ladder01.news.aol.com> MARKM3LEIT wrote: > Would anyone offer some suggestions as to any current modems that work well > with black hardware? I have been trying to use a supra express33.3 off of a > macintosh and havent had any luck getting it to work.(the cable is permently > connected to the modem so i cant use the correct cable) You need a different cable. The one you have will never work. > also what about cable modems? anyone using one? Yup, works dandy, as long as you have a static IP. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 4 Jan 1998 02:48:42 GMT Organization: none Lines: 30 Message-ID: <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: sinistar@sinistar.com In <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> sinistar@sinistar.com wrote: > From what I understand, conventional wisdom is that you can't use high-speed > modems on black hardware, because the serial ports won't go that fast. Slight misunderstanding here.... You can use whatever speed modem you want. However, if you use 57600 rather than 38400 (and I don't know what the correct term for that is... baud?) you may have problems such as system panics, dropped connections, UART overruns and so on. Some folks seem to be able to use 57600 without any problems, especially with turbos. I used an X2 modem with a non-turbo slab @ 38400 and never had any problems. I could use it at 57600 if I didn't push it (ie large ftp downloads or image files). So it's not so much the modem's speed but the speed you run the serial port. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <34aea5eb.1@london.netkonect.net> Control: cancel <34aea5eb.1@london.netkonect.net> Date: 04 Jan 1998 04:13:50 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Ian Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!netkonect!london.netkonect.net!isherwood.netkonect.co.uk X-Original-Subject: `Free Live Saucy Chat! X-Original-Date: 3 Jan 98 20:56:11 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: london.netkonect.co.uk X-Original-From: Ian X-CosmoTraq: L3)ITJEB&:)P2'PSD"WF7N.U/V;66X,XJ6:3?4T7.)X, Date: 4 Jan 1998 04:58:53 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <21230883890024@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:91739 comp.sys.next.announce:4517 comp.sys.next.hardware:31854 comp.sys.next.software:32072 comp.sys.next.misc:27386 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29349 comp.sys.next.bugs:4662 comp.sys.next.programmer:27304 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Message-ID: <34A80685.3357@jetlink.net> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 13:29:41 -0700 From: Krys & Tod Williamson Reply-To: ktw@jetlink.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: disktab for new 2-Gig Jaz Drives? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-208-19-51-76.ag.jetlink.net Lines: 6 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!208.155.166.124!bmccane.cavtech.com!Supernews70!Supernews60!supernews.com!netsuites.com!ppp-208-19-51-76.ag.jetlink.net Does anyone know how to modify the 1-Gig Jaz disktab from NeXTAnswers for use with the new 2-Gig Jaz drive? Thanks, -Tod ktw@jetlink.net #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.52.106.6!ncar!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Turbo MB (ADB ROM) works well with non-ADB setup? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 14:42:44 GMT Lines: 18 Hi, this is the scoop: I have a turbo ND cube and non-ADB keyboard, sound box and moouse. When I put a non-ADB ROM (v71), I could never manage to set the boot console on the color display, even though I tried NDbootscreen apps. Then the original owner kindly sent the ADB ROM (v74) back to me. With this ROM, I got the boot console back without making any major changes. However, now the sound keys have no effect. I can see the sound slider move from the Preference.app, but still the same sound level. The sound works ok, just the level. Do I have to run this cube with ADB setup? I've used turbo slab with non-ADB ROM and I did not have any problem (no ND involved). Any help will be appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!sg18 From: sg18@acpub.duke.edu (Subir Grewal) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info only: parity memory on old slab Date: 4 Jan 1998 21:32:42 GMT Organization: Trill Host Selection Committee Lines: 38 Message-ID: <68ov5q$2hs$1@news.duke.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: godzilla6.acpub.duke.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Thought someone here might be interested in this odd case (which was not mentioned in NeXTAnswers or the FAQ, AFAIK) on an old slab with 8 slots for 30 pin SIMMs. I tried to install some additional memory today, I had 4 4MB parity SIMMS and an additional 8 1MB parity SIMMs to play with (my slab was originally using 8 1MB non-parity SIMMs). When I first tried using the 4 4MB and 4 1MB SIMMs I kept getting exception errors, Exception #3 (oxc) at 0x100034c on initial powerup and then: Exception #2 (0x8) at 0x4380000 every time I tried to boot from the ROM monitor. BTW, I have version 2.2 of the NeXT ROM (v63) which supposedly can use parity checking. I kept fiddling around with the configuration thinking I could make the exception errors go away, but that didn't work. Finally I had to turn on parity checking using the p (configure) command in the ROM monitor, that seems to had solved the problem and I'm now using 20MB of RAM as follows: slots 0-3 parity page mode SIMMs 0x4000000 - 0x44000000 slots 4-7 parity page mode SIMMs 0x5000000 - 0x5ffe0000 So it seems as if I had to enable parity checking before the slab would accept the parity SIMMs (I had to do this even when I used all 8 1MB parity SIMMs). I thought I'd post here because there was no mention of this fact in either the FAQ at peanuts or in NeXTAnswers. -- hostmaster@trill-home.com + Lynx 2.7.1 + NeXT/PGP mail + www.crl.com/~subir/ And Jesus said unto them, "And whom do you say that I am?" They replied, "You are the eschatological manifestation of the ground of our being, the ontological foundation of the context of our very selfhood revealed." And Jesus replied, "What?" #################################################################### From: dieter@kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de (Dieter Ebner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: black monochrome monitor repairing Keywords: monochrome monitor repairing Reply-To: Dieter.Ebner@uni-konstanz.de Distribution: world NNTP-Posting-Host: kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de Message-ID: <34aa3346.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> Date: 31 Dec 97 11:57:58 GMT Organization: University of Constance, Germany Lines: 36 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-konstanz.de!kaluza.physik.uni-konstanz.de Could anyone give me advice/data sheets for repairing a MegaPixelDisplay, 2 channel digital audio Model No. N4000A The Monitor has the SONY-designation: SMC-311A 7014618 SRB SONY N4000A San Diego September 1991 U.S.A. In the interior there are two boards. One seems to be proprietary to NeXT computers, but the larger one, though obviously also specially adapted for NeXT, seems to be a modification of a standard board of SONY. It has the designation: 1-623-855-14 A (in white letters) 38-0945-73 (in black, possibly a checking stamp only) We have a very competent repairing department at our university, but they will try only when suitable data sheets are available. High voltage is functional. The computer is running, but the screen is completely black. -- Dr. Dieter Ebner, Physics Department, University of Konstanz, (My UNI-internal box: M678), D-78457 KONSTANZ (Germany) (no street-name or local box number required) Tel: +49/7531/88-3785, Fax: +49/7531/88-3195 e-mail (MIME accepted): Dieter.Ebner@uni-konstanz.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!newsfeed.direct.ca!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <68p66p$e2t$1@fox.dpliv.com> Control: cancel <68p66p$e2t$1@fox.dpliv.com> Date: 04 Jan 1998 23:09:04 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: capmaster@fox.dpliv.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.31.254.2!fox.dpliv.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Virtual Pet X-Original-Date: 4 Jan 1998 17:32:41 -0600 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: fox.dpliv.com X-Original-From: sales@dino-g.com X-CosmoTraq: (Z3L\B4AIG-)S@^OQB8JU$>P^/XQ+;)_5=H;N](R-N!3O,3 X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't Boot CDROM's Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 16:42:12 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <68p6om$9ga$1@news.xmission.com> References: <68kqef$4te$1@news.itis.com> <68lltq$71e$1@news.xmission.com> <68luii$mca$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slc360.modem.xmission.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > > You can also do this by setting the CD-ROM SCSI id less that the hard disk, and then > booting (off the hard disk). After the boot block gets loaded (off the hard disk) it'll > continue the rest of the boot off the lowest SCSI id, namely the CD-ROM. I used to have to > play games like that with my old cube whenever I wanted to upgrade or re-install the OS > because I didn't have a floppy. The problem is the older ROMs don't know about CD-ROM > devices to be able to load the boot blocks off them. > > More to the point though, why do you want to boot off the CD-ROM? All this will do if ask > if you want to install the OS. You can't (I'm pretty certain) run the OS off the original > NeXT CD-ROMs. Just to be nit-picky: you CAN boot and run the OS from the CD in single-user mode (as long as the ROM monitor isn't password-protected); you just can't use normal Workspace. More importantly (this is what screwed me up): if you switch the CD's ID too less than the hard disk, install the operating system, the swith the ID back, it may not work properly. I don't remember exactly where, but I had to switch sd0a and sd1a in one of the system files (probably fstab). -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: Trevin Beattie <*trevin*@*xmission*.*com*> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can't Boot CDROM's Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 16:42:41 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <68p6pm$chh$1@news.xmission.com> References: <68kqef$4te$1@news.itis.com> <68lltq$71e$1@news.xmission.com> <68luii$mca$2@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: slc360.modem.xmission.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > > You can also do this by setting the CD-ROM SCSI id less that the hard disk, and then > booting (off the hard disk). After the boot block gets loaded (off the hard disk) it'll > continue the rest of the boot off the lowest SCSI id, namely the CD-ROM. I used to have to > play games like that with my old cube whenever I wanted to upgrade or re-install the OS > because I didn't have a floppy. The problem is the older ROMs don't know about CD-ROM > devices to be able to load the boot blocks off them. > > More to the point though, why do you want to boot off the CD-ROM? All this will do if ask > if you want to install the OS. You can't (I'm pretty certain) run the OS off the original > NeXT CD-ROMs. Just to be nit-picky: you CAN boot and run the OS from the CD in single-user mode (as long as the ROM monitor isn't password-protected); you just can't use normal Workspace. More importantly (this is what screwed me up): if you switch the CD's ID too less than the hard disk, install the operating system, the swith the ID back, it may not work properly. I don't remember exactly where, but I had to switch sd0a and sd1a in one of the system files (probably fstab). -- Trevin Beattie "Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, *To*reply*to*this* for you are crunchy and good with ketchup." *message,*remove*the* --unknown *asterisks*from*my*email*address.* #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!news1.best.com!dailyplanet.wsrcc.com!newsfeed.orst.edu!news.nero.net!toml From: toml@engr.orst.edu (Tom Lieuallen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Booting Black NeXT without monitor Date: 4 Jan 1998 23:46:19 GMT Organization: Oregon State University, College of Engineering Lines: 19 Message-ID: <68p70b$ojd$1@news.NERO.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: engr.orst.edu I'm trying to boot my NeXT station 25MhZ (monochrome) without a monitor and keyboard. I've read the NEXT FAQ's description of the procedure, but am not having success. Does anyone else have it working that can help? I have the proper (I think) resistor. The power turns on, but I can't get the machine to boot from the hard drive. It says that it is going to boot from the hard disk (reported on my serial console), but it never actually does anything. The hard disk spins up when the power comes on, but it really doesn't sound like any of the OS is being loaded off it. I've played around with all of the Rom Monitor parameters that I can think of. Thank you for any help Tom Lieuallen toml@engr.orst.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.nefkom.de!news.erlm.siemens.de!main.de.uu.net!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news-master.tiac.net!jbf From: jbf@frazer.com (James Frazer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: black monochrome monitor repairing Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:31:43 -0500 Organization: The Internet Access Company, Inc. Lines: 67 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <34aa3346.0@news.uni-konstanz.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: frazer.com X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 There is no way to get data sheets - even NeXT authorized servicemen didn't have them, since the monitor was returned to Sony for service. Someone once posted a way to repair a blown resistor in the power supply, but your service people probably wouldn't want to try it, and that may not be the problem anyway. Suggest you but a new monitor - check www.deepspacetech.com. Probably cost you < $100 plus shipping. Or buy a color Turbo for $200 w/o RAM and hard drive for $200 from Mooseman. I think he also has mono Turbos for $100. RAM from Chip Merchant was about $2/MB a few weeks ago, and you can get a drive for < $100. Kind of pointless to repair old hardware at these prices. More info from a summary file below. ****** If you have questions or wish to order please me at (704) 598-7141. MTECH - Jim Moosmann 635 J. Atando Ave. Charlotte, NC 28260 I called up Jim Moosman last night and got these prices from him: ADB Color Turbos , 0 RAM, no HD, 17" Sony monitor - $200, monitor alone for $100. ********* We will be closed from 12/24/97 thru 1/4/98. We will reopen for normal business on January 5th, 1998. The following HOLIDAY SPECIAL will start tonight 12/10/97 and end 1/9/98. All orders for these prices must be received by 1/9/98. Happy holidays from all of us at Deepspace Technologies. This Holiday special is: 1). NEXT COLOR TURBO 16mb RAM and 400mb HD with 17" Next Color Sony Monitor, Keyboard ADB, Mouse ADB, Sound Box ADB, Color monitor Y cable and release 3.3 user installed on the HD. $399.00 2). NEXT COLOR TURBO(SLAB ONLY) - includes Motherboard, Fan, Power supply, Floppy drive, HD Mounting bracket. $50.00 If you have other Next harware needs call or visit our website: www.deepspacetech.com -- We accept VISA/MC and AMEX sedwards@fred.net DeepSpace Technologies 7311 Grove Rd. Suite A-1 Frederick, MD 21701 Ph. 301-663-3033 Fax 301-620-9634 #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:11:18 GMT Lines: 31 In article , Mitchell Allen wrote: >> I remember reading something in one of the newsgroups about how to >>install multiple processor cards in the black cubes so you could use the >>multiprocessing/ws farming support (renderman, etc) without having >multiple >>boxes. >> >> What I would like to do is setup four processor cards (one Color Turbo >>and three mono turbos) in one box, and then network them via switched >>10BaseT, does anyone know anything about doing this? > >I know a little about doing this, but what I take it you mean is that you >want to put in three Turbo boards and a NeXT Dimension board. The Turbo >Color will not work in a Cube. > >Tell me what you need to know, and I'll help you out. Be warned, I have >succeeded in doing the necessary hardware modifications and I can verify >that they work, but I have never solved the NetBooting problem. > >Maybe you can solve the NetBoot problem and we can both get out systems >running the way we want. :-) > >Mitch > I followed the NetBoot instruction from the manual. But I could not get it work properly. The client could boot, but the login window never came out. I guess I did not try enough ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!rtd.com!not-for-mail From: "Thunder" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Intel & AMD CPU's at Awesome Prices !!! Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:03:41 -0700 Organization: RTD Systems & Networking, Inc. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <68pim6$bal$1@baygull.rtd.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialtus1-106.rtd.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Brand New Pentium Processors for Sale... __Intel__ Pentium II 300MHz Klamath CPU - $650 Pentium II 266MHz Klamath CPU - $450 Pentium II 233MHz Klamath CPU - $350 Pentium Pro CPU - $500 Pentium 233MHz MMX CPU - $250 Pentium 200MHz MMX CPU - $200 Pentium 166MHz MMX CPU - $150 Pentium 200MHz CPU - $150 Pentium 166MHz CPU - $150 Pentium 150MHz CPU - $100 Pentium 133MHz CPU - $100 Pentium 100MHz CPU - $75 __AMD__ K-6 Pentium 233MHz MMX - $250 K-6 Pentium 200MHz MMX - $200 K-6 Pentium 166MHz MMX - $175 K-5 Pentium 166MHz - $125 K-5 Pentium 150MHz - $100 K-5 Pentium 100MHz - $175 thunder@rtd.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!paperboy01.iconnet.net!news.mcleodusa.net!news From: Robert Ray Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Maxtor 8.4G Problems Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 20:55:58 -0600 Organization: self Lines: 19 Message-ID: <34AB05BE.94E5A012@mcleod.net> Reply-To: ray.robert@mcleod.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 323-A-43-69.ppp.mcleodusa.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) I am having problems getting my Intel OpenStep system to recognize more than a single 2G partition of a Maxtor 8.4G drive. I am in the process of setting up a dual boot system with Win95 and OpenStep. I first partitioned the disk and loaded Win95. Win95 is limited to 2G partitions therefore the disk is made up of four 2G partitions. After completing the Win95 installation I start through the OpenStep installation and OpenStep fails to recognize any other partition than a single 2G partition. Any known problems with OpenStep recognizing the partition table of a Maxtor 8.4G drive? Anyone able to use another vendor's 8.4G drive? Or, do I need to load OpenStep first before Win95? Any other suggestions? I've checked NextAnswers. Thanks for your help! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ix.netcom.com!acoustic From: acoustic@netcom.com (Yee On Lo) Subject: refurbishing black hardware in the (SF) Bay Area Message-ID: Summary: who does this in the Bay Area Keywords: refurbish, check out, black hardware, bay area Sender: acoustic@netcom13.netcom.com Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:53:35 GMT Lines: 14 A few years ago there was some outfit in the Bay Area which had a service of fixing up black hardware---going in and checking it out, recommending and making repairs, etc. I didn't keep track of the name of the outfit, but i don't think it was Spherical Solutions (which is a little north). I'd be grateful for any info anyone can post or mail to me. TIA. yeeOn acoustic@netcom.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!europa.clark.net!128.158.254.10!news.msfc.nasa.gov!nocemed!mmfcancel!cyberspam!chainsaw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric From: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <68qi08$bcl@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <68qi08$bcl@dfw-ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> no reply ignore Reply-To: bitbucket@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-No-Archive: Yes Organization: Semi-Automatic Lupine Remover Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:06:42 GMT Approved: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Canceled-By: news@news.msfc.nasa.gov X-Cancel-Flags: ar X-Orig-Path: newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.214.99.1!ix.netcom.com!news Sender: hgrjorpv@money.com X-Orig-NNTP-Posting-Host: lvx-nv10-16.ix.netcom.com X-Cancel-ID: M`T&;X:9J&627W%$N\Y]T.0]-I^VR=B5PH^A=.O^K0`4;6;/YOD(Q?*_ Lines: 2 ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by J. Porter Clark. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news.coli.uni-sb.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <68qjb7$600$12679@tourist.gnt.net> ignore no reply Control: cancel <68qjb7$600$12679@tourist.gnt.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:40:44 +0000 Sender: euxhlgvt@somethingofyourchoice.com From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.1 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.44.2.10!nntp.cntfl.com!news.gnt.net!not-for-mail X-Original-From: euxhlgvt@somethingofyourchoice.com X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: thunder.gnt.com X-Original-Subject: C.R.Computers-Wholesale Prices-http://www.gnt.net/~crc X-Original-Date: 5 Jan 1998 12:23:03 GMT X-Cancel-ID: 8=O/A!\RO2Y@#(8KP--DY9$+_[1/8NU>D#RV6_`#E!7!.R_D?Y(=CL!L Lines: 1 Spam (EMP) cancelled - type=SBOTA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cartriges for NeXT color printer? Date: 5 Jan 1998 17:02:51 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19980105170200.MAA25399@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <68jbb3$e2u@valhalla.comshare.com> The FAQ notes that the NeXT Color Printer uses the same cartridges as the Canon BJC-8xx series, and even has the Canon part numbers. I'd suspect with those that you'd be able to order from any one of the major office supply vendors. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!noos.hooked.net!news.hooked.net!fish.hooked.net!cchris From: cchris@fish.hooked.net (Chris Christensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SCSI bus damage YIKES! Date: 5 Jan 1998 19:43:47 GMT Organization: Hooked Online Services Lines: 46 Message-ID: <68rd5j$75o$1@its.hooked.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fish.hooked.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Greetings, My NeXT Turbo Color workstation recently sustained some internal damage when I inadvertantly turned off an external hard drive while the computer was running. I turned the drive back on after just a few seconds, however, the drive would no longer spin and the access l.e.d. on the front of the drive stayed on. After a few seconds I smelled the odor of burning electronics. My heart sank. I thought I may have damaged the hard drive electronics. I disconnected the drive, opened the case and inspected the innerds but didn't find any evidence of damage. I powered it up (not connected to the computer) and it spun fine. I opened the computer case and discovered that two chips which seem to be associated with the SCSI bus had been fried. They are marked Fil-Mag 23Z109SM TWN 9216 and are soldered to the SCSI buss lines next to the SCSI connector. I assume they are some kind of driver or buffer chips. There seems to be one of these chips associated with each I/O port. The chip connected to serial port A was also burned out. I was troubled by the damage to the chip connected to the serial port. Now, I will admit that I had recently built a serial device that was connected to serial port A when this happened but the device and the computer had worked fine for the previous several weeks. The device is a MIDI interface which uses a Maxim MAX232 RS232 line driver chip. It generates standard RS232 voltage levels and seemed to be working properly. I don't think this caused the problem. My question is-- why did this happen? I know that turning a SCSI device on or off while the computer is running can damage the file system but I am surprised that it would physically damage the computer. Any advice would be *greatly* appreciated. Also, is there anyone out there who has a few Fil-Mag 23Z109SM chips they would be willing to sell to me. I would like to try to repair the board. I have called a distributor for Fil-Mag, however, they only sell large quantities. Thanks for any help. Chris #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!134.139.1.31!csulb.edu!drivel.ics.uci.edu!news.service.uci.edu!usenet From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.x on Pentium II machines? Date: 5 Jan 1998 21:13:05 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 1 Distribution: world Message-ID: <68rid1$ned@news.service.uci.edu> Reply-To: fliu@uci.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: r2d2.eng.uci.edu Does OpenStep 4.x work on latest Pentium II machines with the 440LX board? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!newstf02.news.aol.com!newstf01.news.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gredelkai@aol.com (GredelKai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Nextstep & penbased computing Date: 5 Jan 1998 21:28:05 GMT Lines: 2 Message-ID: <19980105212800.QAA23227@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Does anyone know or has had anyexperience with nextstep on a pen-based computer system #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!erlenstar.ml.org!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc.32k,comp.sys.oric Subject: cmsg cancel <157ce$112420.41@news> ignore no reply Control: cancel <157ce$112420.41@news> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:41:24 +0000 Sender: sbdeamtqkevin.bitch.smash@ponyfarm.net From: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Organization: Annihilator v0.1 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news!not-for-mail X-Original-From: sbdeamtqkevin.bitch.smash@ponyfarm.net X-Original-Subject: very classy adult site X-Original-Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:36:32 GMT X-Cancel-ID: ]X$H3NG\AX<&HBQ2PM6+BR>Q6'X9++>W-M)<@O(%N[M7X8BN25SGYV8" Lines: 1 Spam (EMP) cancelled - type=SBOTA #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!not-for-mail From: Chuck Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 5 Jan 1998 20:39:39 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 22 Message-ID: <68rgeb$879$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: balt.blacksmith.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS wrote: > In <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> sinistar@sinistar.com wrote: >> From what I understand, conventional wisdom is that you can't use >> high-speed modems on black hardware, because the serial ports won't go >> that fast. > > Slight misunderstanding here.... > > You can use whatever speed modem you want. However, if you use 57600 rather > than 38400 (and I don't know what the correct term for that is... baud?) Baud is the right term, yes. It means about the same thing as "bits per second", except that a modem has to send not just data bits, but parity and stop bits as well. Most people don't want to think about getting 8 bits of useful data from every 11 bits actually sent through the wire, so they just consider bps in terms of "data bits". -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!oleane!fdn.fr!r2d2.fdn.org!claire!yves From: yves (Yves_AKAKPO) Subject: WTB SRAM for my DSP Motorola 56001 Message-ID: Keywords: SRAM Sender: yves@yves.fdn.fr (Yves AKAKPO) Reply-To: yves@yves.fdn.fr Organization: Individual Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:23:05 GMT Lines: 13 WTB SIMM StaticRAM ( SRAM ) for my DSP DSP Motorola 56001 Slab NeXTstation Turbo CPU Motorola 68040 RAM 24 Mo SIMM (70 ns) OS NeXTStep 3.3 Any ideas? Thanks! Yves #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.52.106.6!ncar!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!boulder!pb From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 5 Jan 1998 21:04:54 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 16 Message-ID: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.colorado.edu NNTP-Posting-User: pb I recently bought a non-ADB turbo color slab with no RAM, and am wondering what the true story is about RAM for this machine. (I say this because I have--casually--observed claims that 60 nsec SIMMs are detected as 100 nsec, and also that they are detected as 60 nsec.) In particular, (1) will 60 nsec SIMMs run as 60 nsec SIMMs? (2) If they (60 nsec SIMMs) are detected as 100 nsec, will this slow things down? (I normally would try to figure this out, but a 33 MHz machine is running ith a 30 nsec clock, which is a lot faster than 60 or 70 or 100 nsec....) (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) Thanks in advance. If this information is available from a FAQ, I'd be glad to get a pointer to it.... PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.1.13.10!news1.channel1.com!not-for-mail From: "John G. Kerbert" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Syjet on NS3.3 Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 16:58:19 -0500 Organization: Great Eastern Technology Lines: 5 Message-ID: <34B1577B.184@get.com> Reply-To: jkerb@get.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.81.128.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Can anyone offer setup instructions for a Syjet drive running on an Intel box under NS3.3? Please reply via e-mail and to the newsgroup. Thanks in advance. John Kerbert #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.bellglobal.com!news.uunet.ca!alexandria.cyantic.com!not-for-mail From: mark@cyantic.com (Mark Dornfeld) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IOMEGA ZIP DRIVE on OpenStep 4.2 Date: 5 Jan 1998 22:13:47 GMT Organization: Cyantic Systems. Lines: 12 Distribution: world Message-ID: <68rlur$5vb$1@alexandria.cyantic.com> Reply-To: mark@cyantic.com (Mark Dornfeld) NNTP-Posting-Host: ugarit.cyantic.com Keywords: ZIP DRIVE, FORMAT, INITIALIZE I cannot initialize my ZIP drive under OpenStep 4.2 for Intel. Is there anything special that must be done to the drive or disk before this can happen? Please respond by Email. -- Mark T. Dornfeld, Cyantic Systems Corporation 1 Eva Road Suite 301 Etobicoke, Ontario, M9C 4Z5 CANADA Voice: (416) 621-6166 Fax: (416) 621-6212 Email: mark@cyantic.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.238.120.130!jump.net!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:03:54 -0600 Subject: cmsg cancel <883789337.425787400@dejanews.com> Message-ID: Sender: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Control: cancel <883789337.425787400@dejanews.com> X-Cancelled-By: reynolds@tcoe.trinity.k12.ca.us Approved: postnews@dejanews.com Organization: Deja News Usenet Posting Service X-Originating-IP-Addr: 198.189.124.29 X-No-Archive: yes Lines: 3 Original Subject: Matrox Millenium/Word 97/HP 820 driver error Comments: Cancelled by author. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 6 Jan 1998 01:55:55 GMT Organization: none Lines: 15 Message-ID: <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: pb@Colorado.EDU In <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote: > > (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because > 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) I'm 98% sure you can't use EDO TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Syjet on NS3.3 Date: 6 Jan 1998 01:54:38 GMT Organization: none Lines: 20 Message-ID: <68s2su$da8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34B1577B.184@get.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: jkerb@get.com In <34B1577B.184@get.com> "John G. Kerbert" wrote: > Can anyone offer setup instructions for a Syjet drive running on an > Intel box under NS3.3? Please reply via e-mail and to the newsgroup. Power down Intel. Hook up SyJet with unique ID. Power on. Just works. (Assuming it is the same as 4.1, and the SyJet is SCSI.) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.pagesat.net!news.itis.com!not-for-mail From: "Jason J. Gullickson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:34:45 -0600 Organization: Viper Industries Lines: 19 Sender: reguser@msn-3-14.binc.net Message-ID: <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: msn-3-14.binc.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Ok, first off, here is what I would like to do: I have a 25Mhz mono cube with an ailing monitor. I would like to purchase a color card and display for this machine. I would also like to keep my mono card installed if possible and use it as another processing node. In the future, I would like to populate the remaining two slots with more mono (since I don't anticipate installing a display on them) processor cards. First off, how much should I expect to pay for a color processor card and display? And second, if I make the purchase, what do I need to do to keep my existing processor card installed and useable. Also, what is the notorious "net boot" problem? Jason J. Gullickson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!solaris.cc.vt.edu!hp.fciencias.unam.mx!not-for-mail From: Rene Berber Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: /dev/cufb problem. Date: 1 Jan 1998 22:26:20 GMT Organization: None Lines: 27 Message-ID: <68h56c$l38$1@hp.fciencias.unam.mx> References: <67ofjf$5aj$1@news2.digex.net> <67omqq$u8@mtinsc05.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: verbum46.spin.com.mx Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca > I'm wondering if anyone's had a similar problem. I've installed > both serial ports, booting -v reports no problems, the portserver is > installed, and boot -v says that the portserver starts up properly. Now, I > try to use any application which accesses the /dev/cufb port, and nothing > happens. Before i installed the portserver, i would get messages that the > device does not exist, etc. now I get no messages, but the modem simply > remains inactive. I'm using white hardware, and an internal Hayes Accura > 33.6/56k. > The problem, I think, is that the internal modem is configured as COM3. That means that it responds to different IRQ and port address than the ones you have configured. The solution is to add a third instance of the serial port to your configuration and set the IRQ and port address. The default values given by Configure probably work, if not you'll have to check your modem's manual to see wha they are and perhaps even set them with jumpers. > Also, is there any way to achieve the effect of booting -v > automatically, without having to enter -v at the boot prompt every time? > Yes, using Configure hit the "Expert..." button at the Summary of Devices view and change the value on the line that says "Boot Graphics" to No. Hope this helps. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mozart.onestep.co.uk!not-for-mail From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.x on Pentium II machines? Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 09:33:55 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <884079235.20990.0.nnrp-03.c30b1c08@news.demon.co.uk> References: <68rid1$ned@news.service.uci.edu> Reply-To: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) NNTP-Posting-Host: mozart.onestep.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: mozart.onestep.co.uk [195.11.28.8] Lines: 9 In article <68rid1$ned@news.service.uci.edu> fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) writes: > Does OpenStep 4.x work on latest Pentium II machines with the 440LX board? Yes, it works fine. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OpenStep 4.x on Pentium II machines? Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 17:23:40 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <34B1F81C.2BBBCA46@bah.com> References: <68rid1$ned@news.service.uci.edu> Reply-To: chong_tim@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.229.235.56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884078595 11574 (None) 128.229.235.56 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) To: fliu@uci.edu dun know for OS, but Rhapsody DR/Intel does...=) Feng Liu wrote: > Does OpenStep 4.x work on latest Pentium II machines with the 440LX board? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SCSI bus damage YIKES! Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 17:22:52 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <34B1F7EC.45629F15@bah.com> References: <68rd5j$75o$1@its.hooked.net> Reply-To: chong_tim@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.229.235.56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884078548 11574 (None) 128.229.235.56 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) To: Chris Christensen Chris, Plugging and unplugging SCSI devices off a live machine is never a good practice, the same for ADB devices too (on the Mac or NeXT)... I'm sorry for the state of your machine. BTW, instead of fixing it (which I think gonna cost more), why dun u just get a new board from http://www.deepspacetech.com or http://www.orb.com/ ? TC [zapped] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!usc!usc!not-for-mail From: mesamart@lvl-sun700.usc.edu (mesamart) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Date: 6 Jan 1998 12:30:56 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 32 Message-ID: <68u4a0$ba1$1@lvl-sun700.usc.edu> References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lvl-sun700.usc.edu skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) writes: >It seems the 72pin SIMM RAM will obsolete. I want to upgrade my NeXT >cube from 32MB to 128MB before the 72pin not widespread available in the >market. But the EDO is cheaper and popular in HK. Is it OK to use >EDO ? Or absolutely not ? Sure, I think that EDO ram will work just fine (and I don't think this type of RAM is going to disappear so quickly =) ). You won't get the advantage of the EDO (although it is more an intel marketing bloat than anything else). But it will work. As it seems that EDO type is cheaper now than the regular RAM... =) >Is it also true for the VRAM in ND and Tubo Color station ? The VRAM for the ND is fixed to 4Mb and the VRAM for the Color Station is also fixed to 2Mb. The ND's memory can be upgraded up to 64Mb, but it is not VRAM, it is just RAM for the 860 to work with, i.e. it won't increase the colour depth of the machine. >Thanks in advance. Hope I could help... >Mr.Sai-Kee Wong -- Francisco J. Mesa-Mart http://www-scf.usc.edu/~mesamart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- USC Robotics Research Lab mesamart@robotics.usc.edu USC Computer Engineering mesamart@aludra.usc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!spock-testing.mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Chris Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Date: 7 Jan 1998 01:43:40 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 16 Message-ID: <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> <68u4a0$ba1$1@lvl-sun700.usc.edu> Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port117.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) mesamart@lvl-sun700.usc.edu (mesamart) wrote: >The ND's memory can be upgraded up to 64Mb, but it is not VRAM, it is just >RAM for the 860 to work with, i.e. it won't increase the colour depth of >the machine. Interesting. I've often wondered about this i.e. I have 32MB in my ND board now: Would I benefit in any way by upgrading the board to 64MB? I know the color depth wouldn't increase (24 bit is fine anyway!). Would the screen redraw faster? Thanks. --Chris Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.abs.net!news1.ispnews.com!news8.ispnews.com!not-for-mail From: James Drybanski Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for SCSI CDROM Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:21:34 -0500 Organization: ISPNews http://ispnews.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34B302CE.C59B91A3@dreamcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: webmaster.dreamcom.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Hi, I recently was given a Panasonic SCSI 8x CDROM, and I am trying to figure out how to get it to work with my 25MHz 68040 B/W Next pizzabox. Any ideas would be appreciated. The NeXT tries to load it, but seems to think that the SCSI device is "not ready". Geofry #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!agate!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.stanford.edu!rjacobs From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Trackball with NS3.3 Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:28:14 -0800 Lines: 7 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Are there any trackballs that work well with NeXTStep 3.3? Does it matter whether I get a bus, serial, or PS2 interface? Any recommendations or comments on which mice to avoid would be appreciated. Rob #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.camelot.de!heller!heller From: heller@altoetting-online.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 05:26:58 GMT Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller Lines: 33 Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller) Message-ID: References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Reply-To: heller@altoetting-online.de NNTP-Posting-Host: heller.altoetting-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) writes: > > I just bought a > SB16 card to stick into the OpenStep machine. > To my dismay, this was a PnP > product. > Many a reboot later, i'm still getting the same error message. > Basically, it tells me the it can't find the card at the configured > location. I also tried an SB16 card and finally gave up! However, I got past your stage :-) Friendly net people had suggested that the vendor ID might be missing. So I added the vendor ID in the driver, it found the card...and crashed. Oh well. I gave up (this was under NS3.3). So, try adding the vendor ID in the ...Instance0 configuration file (or use expert options in Configure.app). To get the vendor ID, there is a little program somwhere (I am not at my NS-intel machine now, but I think in .../Drivers/System.config/), called PnPsupport or PnPtest or so, which you can call and it shows all that info for all plugged in cards. Let me know if you should get yours to work and how you did it!! Bye, Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@altoetting-online.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-8671-881665 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Muehldorfer Str. 72, 84503 Altoetting, GERMANY #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!news.itis.com!not-for-mail From: "Jason J. Gullickson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:55:09 -0600 Organization: Viper Industries Lines: 13 Sender: reguser@msn-1-10.binc.net Message-ID: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: msn-1-10.binc.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I remember reading something in one of the newsgroups about how to install multiple processor cards in the black cubes so you could use the multiprocessing/ws farming support (renderman, etc) without having multiple boxes. What I would like to do is setup four processor cards (one Color Turbo and three mono turbos) in one box, and then network them via switched 10BaseT, does anyone know anything about doing this? Jason J. Gullickson #################################################################### From: cindisend@hotmail.com Subject: [Q] SOUNDBLASTER OR YAMAHA SOUND CARD for Openstep 4.2? Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:11:39 -0600 Message-ID: <883806768.1183383555@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: post Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!169.132.11.200!news.idt.net!nntp.texas.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat Jan 03 05:52:48 1998 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: cindisend@hotmail.com X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01Gold (Win95; I) X-Originating-IP-Addr: 166.72.230.90 (slip166-72-230-90.tn.us.ibm.net) Lines: 27 I am going to buy either the Creative Labs "AWE64" (value?) for around $80, or a cheaper sound card for about $30. I have found a "Yamaha" 'OLP 3D Sound Card' ["32 Wavetable Full Duplex, 3D Sound, Game Port, Line Out, Line In, Mic In"]. I am unsure if this will work with Openstep 4.2? Could someone give me some advice? The "Nextanswers" says these cards will work: Sound Blaster 16 Basic (ISA) Sound Blaster 16 Value (ISA) Sound Blaster 16 AWE (ISA) Sound Blaster 16 SCSI-II (ISA) Sound Blaster 16 Value PnP (ISA) Sound Blaster AWE 32 (ISA) Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value (ISA) Sound Blaster AWE 64 Gold (ISA) I assume these are all creative labs sound cards? Will other sound cards work with Openstep? I mainly desire to use it for Windows 95 90% of the time (netmeeting etc.). Has help would be greatly appreciated. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: problems with cdaudio Date: 6 Jan 1998 22:53:17 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 18 Message-ID: <68v8ot$i42@slip.net> References: <68mil4$ms6$1@excalibur.flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29373 comp.sys.next.hardware:31890 >I'm running OpenStep 4.2 at home. I'm having some problem with playing audio CD's. > When a put an audio CD in I get the following in my console: > >probing for DOS >probing for CDROM >probing for mac >probing for cdaudio >Jan 3 17:32:05 Workspace: Mounted scsi disk at /cdaudio >cdutil: openDrive: Couldn't open /dev/rsd3h (-1) >cdutil: openDrive: Permission denied > It looks like cdaudio allows you to select the scsi id for the CD-ROM and it is currently set to find the CD-ROM at scsi id 3, but you're CD-ROM is set to some id other than 3. Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: refurbishing black hardware in the (SF) Bay Area Date: 6 Jan 1998 22:59:48 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 9 Message-ID: <68v954$if4@slip.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Keywords: refurbish, check out, black hardware, bay area You might be thinking of www.printerworks.com who for $150 + shipping will referb a NeXT Color printer if it has a nossle problem. They also sell 600dpi color printers for both MO and Intel boxes. They're in Hayward. Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 14:45:09 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 32 Message-ID: <34B32474.B511D809@bah.com> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <68th0p$257$1@news1.mnsinc.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-200-182.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884155479 1350 (None) 128.229.200.182 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Well folks, My NSTC got 96M now, consisting of 2 x 32M 60ns + 2 x 16M 60ns....the ROM 3.3 v74 see them both as 60ns TC Barry Bocaner wrote: > that Timothy J. Luoma (NOSPAM@ALL.PLS) scribbled: > > In <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote: > > > > > > (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because > > > 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) > > > I'm 98% sure you can't use EDO > > I briefly used 60ns EDO ram from one of those ubiquitous pc junk "stores" > in my non-adb turbo colorstation while I had proper memory on order, it > worked however the next recognized it as 100ns ram. I had to special > order the 70ns stuff as noone had it anymore (it was all you could find > just a few months ago!!) and it was about $10 more per 16mb stick... oh > well, now I'm all set up and I don't need to worry about it. > > -- > --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Barry J. Bocaner > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: 3 Jan 1998 01:47:20 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 42 Message-ID: <68k5b8$12m$1@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) spartan@titan2.physics.mcmaster.ca (Paul 'Tok' Kiela) wrote: > > I hate to ask so soon after my recent battle with /dev/cufb (which >i resolved, thanks to many a reply, thanks very :), but I just bought a >SB16 card to stick into the OpenStep machine. To my dismay, this was a PnP >product. I stuck it in, installed the driver, made sure that PnP was >enabled on the proper bus package, and rebooted. > > Many a reboot later, i'm still getting the same error message. >Basically, it tells me the it can't find the card at the configured >location. I read through some documentation, and it said to make sure that >bios was not claiming any of the DMAs that the SB might be. I disabled all >DMAs in bios that i could find, the system works fine, the SB won't. >Finally, i thought that maybe it might be the actual address. I assume >the that factory defaults would be 0x220 @ irq 5, but i have no way of >testing this. I recieved a CDrom with drivers (and, i assume, a >configuration tool) for the card, but unfortunately its Win95 based. The >card is completely jumperless, so its impossible to disable PnP as it is >on my other PnP peripherals. Is there any easy way to diagnose this >problem? If anyone's won this battle, i'd appreciate some input. Ok, try the following (from an article in the german Nextstep magazine NextToYou 2/97): enter audio driver expert mode, add a new entry, label it "Auto Detect IDs" and set it's value to the detected ID you can find in the boot messages or in /private/adm/messages. It should be something like CTLxxxx. Then add a second entry "Bus Type" with the argument "PNP". If you can't find an entry in the boot messages, you have to activate PNP support in EISA driver settings. Eventually you should update your EISA driver. You can find the actual version for NS 3.3 in NeXTAnswers 2061 and for OS in NeXTAnswers 2270. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news.uni-paderborn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Crystal audio device in IBM IntelliStation Date: 3 Jan 1998 02:02:04 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 40 Message-ID: <68k66s$12m$2@nexusgate.oche.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I asked for this some weeks ago and did some further testing till today: I have an Crystal CS4336 soundchip in an IBM INtelliStation which I want to use under NS 3.3. Now I heard from a guy who managed a CS4232 build in Toshiba Laptop to work und Nextstep/Openstep (I don't know if it only worked under OS4.0) using the Microsoft Sound System driver. So I tried the following: first I just installed the MSS driver using DMA 1, I/O 0x530 and IRQ 9. No sound and the following messages in boot log: Dec 29 23:56:44 bigblue mach: MicrosoftSoundSystem: Failed to program CODEC. Dec 29 23:56:44 bigblue mach: MicrosoftSoundSystem: Improper hardware response. Dec 29 23:56:44 bigblue mach: MicrosoftSoundSystem: Revision (0x1f) mismatch. Dec 29 23:56:44 bigblue mach: MicrosoftSoundSystem at dma channel 1 irq 9 Dec 29 23:56:44 bigblue mach: Registering: MicrosoftSoundSystem Dec 29 23:56:49 bigblue reboot: Reboot complete After that I added the "Auto Detect IDs" and the "Bus Type" entry in experts settings which gave me the foolowing messages in boot log (and no sound again): Dec 30 00:19:04 bigblue mach: PnP: configuring IBM Audio Feature WSS/SB Dec 30 00:19:04 bigblue mach: PnP: could not find a matching configuration for IBM Audio Feature WSS/SB Dec 30 00:19:04 bigblue mach: configureDriver: could not allocate resources for class MicrosoftSoundSystem It seems to me that the driver cannot handle the PNP answer from my audio adapter. I would like to know, if I could get a newer MSS driver which does know my card or if I could patch the existing driver. Does a OS 4.0 driver work on 3.3? Where can I get one? Following Nextanswer Nextanswer 2340 it should under 2342, but that one does not exist. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!europa.clark.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!news.pagesat.net!news.itis.com!not-for-mail From: "Jason J. Gullickson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can't Boot CDROM's Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 01:49:13 -0600 Organization: Viper Industries Lines: 25 Sender: reguser@msn-3-7.binc.net Message-ID: <68kqef$4te$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: msn-3-7.binc.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 I have a 040 (non-turbo) NeXT cube with an external Toshiba CDROM drive attached. The drive works just fine when I use it to access disc's once the O/S is up and running, but I can't seem to boot the system from the NeXTStep 3.0 disc that came with the system. I've tried booting it from the debugger (r-command+~ after "testing system"), with the command: bsd(1,0,0) (the CD is SCSI ID 3, the HDD is ID0) And it tells me there is no SCSI drive. I have the same problem trying to boot from a Zip disk (but the Zip will also work once the system is booted) Is there any way I can get this to work? Do I need a ROM upgrade or something? I need to find something soon because my optical drive appears to be on it's last leg, and I don't want to be stuck if I trash my system (which I do all too often experimenting). Jason J. Gullickson #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.cesnet.cz!news.felk.cvut.cz!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!xmission!not-for-mail From: planetary Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP/Intel max serial port speed Date: 1 Jan 1998 20:36:42 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 12 Message-ID: <68hnca$e3k$1@xmission.xmission.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] Due to zero interest in a Diamond NetCommander driver for Rhapsody, I no longer will fight Diamond for the tech specs and will submit and purchase an external ISDN "modem." How fast can I run a serial port on OPENSTEP/Intel? Do I need the Mux driver, or is that no longer necessary? ...............kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trackball with NS3.3 Date: 7 Jan 1998 13:44:45 GMT Organization: none Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6900sd$g1v$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: rjacobs@vk.stanford.edu In "Robert G. Jacobs" wrote: > Are there any trackballs that work well with NeXTStep 3.3? Does it matter > whether I get a bus, serial, or PS2 interface? Any recommendations or > comments on which mice to avoid would be appreciated. I am using a Logitech MouseMan with OS 4.1. I have heard that the PS2 is the most preferable (ie smoothest to use) but don't know. The MouseMan is PS and works great. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT DSP Q. Date: 3 Jan 1998 02:10:10 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Lines: 16 Message-ID: <68k6m2$7v$2@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <34AC33EB.885FFBE2@bah.com> Reply-To: seanlnospam@nospamcs.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: carmi.cs.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!enews.sgi.com!coop.net!cs.umd.edu!carmi.cs.umd.edu!not-for-mail Chong Tim (chong_tim@bah.com) wrote: >Hi All, > >I see some ppl are trying to buy DSP RAM upgrade for their system. May I >ask what's the advantage of having more RAM in the DSP? And what the DSP >do other than sound generation? In fact, for later versions of the software the DSP is not involved in sound generation at all (even for MuLaw conversion, I believe). The chief thing the DSP's useful for nowadays is running the MusicKit, and more DSP RAM means more sophisticated MusicKit programs, instruments, sounds, etc. _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.clark.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <690612$bn4$747@newton.pacific.net.sg> Control: cancel <690612$bn4$747@newton.pacific.net.sg> Date: 07 Jan 1998 15:20:45 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: Mr@Long.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!wnfeed!worldnet.att.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!newsserver.pacific.net.sg!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: Hello, please look here. 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I will put you on my international "first to notify" list and will contact you when we are open in your country. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.155.20.4!news.cinnetic.com!doubleu.doubleu.com!news!scott From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trackball with NS3.3 Date: 7 Jan 1998 15:15:27 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: "Robert G. Jacobs"'s message of Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:28:14 -0800 In article , "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: Are there any trackballs that work well with NeXTStep 3.3? Does it matter whether I get a bus, serial, or PS2 interface? Any recommendations or comments on which mice to avoid would be appreciated. I'm using the Logitech TrackMan Marble on NS3.3, OS4.2. It's PS/2, but have a serial port adaptor. This is the one with the _strong_ right-hand preference, with your thumb running the trackball. I like it a lot, as I find the thumb can zip me around faster than fingers. At this late date, it's probably going to be hard to find a busmouse, but a PS/2 is fine. _Technically_, a PS/2 mouse is just a serial mouse on a different IRQ. Practically, though, I think NeXT optimized the PS/2 driver so that it's not a mouse driver layered on a serial driver, and without the layering, it tends to work better. Of course, if you don't _have_ a PS/2 interface... The only problem I have is that I've really like to saw off the numberpad on my keyboard so as to put the trackball 5 inches closer to the home row. As it is, it sits out to the right of my armrest, and I find that I sometimes rest too much of my arm's weight on the unit because it's so far out there. Didn't really have the problem with mice... -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!news.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newbabylon.rs.itd.umich.edu!not-for-mail From: "Robert A. Decker" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: 7 Jan 98 12:37:10 -0500 Organization: University of Michigan ITD News Server Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: comrade.cancer.med.umich.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Paul 'Tok' Kiela" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.itd.umich.edu X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.itd.umich.edu/comp.sys.next.hardware On Fri, Jan 2, 1998 11:07 AM, Paul 'Tok' Kiela wrote: > If anyone's won this battle, i'd appreciate some input. > It works with some tweaking. Go into Configure.app and select sound (the speaker icon). Select the Sound Balster 16 PnP (v4.01) driver and go into expert. Select the value that goes with the 'Auto Detect IDs' and set it to CTL0070 rob -- Programmer Analyst - Health Media Research Lab University of Michigan Comprehensive Cancer Center "Get A Life" quote #16: "It's not your fault. I just thought it was one of those days where I was semi-solid and cars could just go right through me." -Chris Elliott #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.new-york.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 7 Jan 1998 17:33:57 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 72 Message-ID: <690ea5$f4u$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.92.18.247 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: pb@Colorado.EDU X-MD5: 7b1be2db1c11d49c4d609b664097b2ed In <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote: > I recently bought a non-ADB turbo color slab with no RAM, and am > wondering what the true story is about RAM for this machine. (I say > this because I have--casually--observed claims that 60 nsec SIMMs > are detected as 100 nsec, and also that they are detected as 60 > nsec.) In particular, (1) will 60 nsec SIMMs run as 60 nsec SIMMs? > (2) If they (60 nsec SIMMs) are detected as 100 nsec, will this slow > things down? (I normally would try to figure this out, but a 33 MHz > machine is running ith a 30 nsec clock, which is a lot faster than 60 > or 70 or 100 nsec....) (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because > 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) > > Thanks in advance. If this information is available from a FAQ, I'd be > glad to get a pointer to it.... > I've read everyone's replies on this, but as a Black weenie type of guy I'd really like a definative answer on this. Mike P will surely be able to finally lay this one to rest. I'd like to know whether at boot time IF the PROM BIOS reports the RAM speed @ 70ns or 60ns whether it actually uses the RAM in it's fastest mode. I would expect that if the BIOS reports 60ns or 70ns that it would actually try to use the RAM @ that speed. Or in the case of black hardware actually use 60ns or 70ns @ 70ns vs. the 100ns. The question isn't whether if 60ns is reported @ 100ns at boot what will happen? this is clear (you'll get a slower machine). The question is whether if the bios reports 60ns that indeed it is using the RAM @ 70ns vs. 100ns. How this works over various incarnations of the ROM (Release 3.0 v70 - 3.x v74) would be another issue. A last question if Mike P decides to give the rather definative answer on the above.. I recently swapped a Turbo Cube MB ROM 3.1 v74 (I think), with a Color Turbo Slab 3.0 v70. I did this because the Cube wouldn't respond to a power on from a ADB keyboard setup (I swapped everything with another ADB x-cept the MB and it worked there) and noticed if I used non-ADB keyboard/mouse etc. that I could actually get the Turbo Cube to boot even with ADB ROMS. Turns out the 3.1 v74 out of the Turbo ADB Cube works fine in my Color Turbo Slab making it ADB. The 3.0 v70 doen't work (white screen) on the Turbo Cube.. At some point I will swap them back to make sure I didn't fry the 3.0 v70 but I was just wondering about which versions of the ROM would swap between what machines.. Also I wonder what could be wrong with the Turbo Cube MB that would make ADB not work and non-ADB would?! (BTW: Nice to know EDO works in our black since it's so cheap) Thanks all, Randy rencsok at channelu dot com argus dot cem dot msu dot edu spammers works also :) Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!144.92.88.12!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 7 Jan 1998 18:56:39 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 24 Message-ID: <690j57$10ua$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <690ea5$f4u$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-107.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote: >Mike P will surely be able to finally lay this one to rest. Will this do (standing in for Mike P.) ? >> I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in >> turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... >> >> A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes >> 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, >> 70ns, or 100ns? > >The hardware will run RAM it recognizes as 70 ns or faster at 70 ns, and >slower RAM at 100 ns. All installed memory should be 70 ns or faster to >get the 70 ns timing. > >-- > Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!wnfeed!204.127.130.5!worldnet.att.net!ix.netcom.com!cdouty From: cdouty@netcom.com (Chris Douty) Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Message-ID: Organization: Netcom References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> <68u4a0$ba1$1@lvl-sun700.usc.edu> <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:48:44 GMT Lines: 45 Sender: cdouty@netcom10.netcom.com In article <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net>, Chris Jensen wrote: >mesamart@lvl-sun700.usc.edu (mesamart) wrote: >>The ND's memory can be upgraded up to 64Mb, but it is not VRAM, it is just >>RAM for the 860 to work with, i.e. it won't increase the colour depth of >>the machine. > >Interesting. I've often wondered about this i.e. I have 32MB in my ND board >now: Would I benefit in any way by upgrading the board to 64MB? I know the >color depth wouldn't increase (24 bit is fine anyway!). Would the screen >redraw faster? Ths short answer is that more ND ram increases the number of windows you can have open without performance problems. AFAIK, the dram on the ND board is used as backing store for the Window Server. Mike Paquette or someone else knowledgable could correct me on this. Remember that the Window Server keeps an offscreen copy of every window so that drawing can take place to the offscreen buffer. This is one reason that NeXTs doesn't flicker like MS Windows does. ND ram increases the number and size of windows which are stored "on the card." When this ram is exhausted it pages out to the main pagefile, which is a lot slower. Not only do pages have to be written to disk, they have to travel across the NextBUS as well. You can see a similar effect when dragging windows to and from the ND screen to the mono monitor or to another ND. Also I recall that you can get an idea of how much memory the drawing buffers are using by looking at the (NextDimension) processes via ps. I forget the exact meaning of the number though. USER PID %CPU %MEM VSIZE RSIZE TT STAT TIME COMMAND root 279 0.0 1.1 47.0M 1.42M ? SW 2:48 (NextDimension) -NDSlot 2 root 280 0.0 0.9 41.8M 1.16M ? SW 0:54 (NextDimension) -NDSlot 4 -Chris -- Christopher Douty - Rogue Engineer trapped in a land of software cdouty@netcom.com "Frequently the messages have meaning; that is they refer to or are correlated according to some system with physical or conceptual entities. These semantic aspects of communication are irrelevant to the engineering problem." -Shannon #################################################################### Date: 3 Jan 98 11:27:51 -0500 Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes From: "Mitchell Allen" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-News-Servers: news3.ibm.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news3.ibm.net/comp.sys.next.hardware References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.214.2 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 24 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.ibm.net!129.37.214.2 > I remember reading something in one of the newsgroups about how to >install multiple processor cards in the black cubes so you could use the >multiprocessing/ws farming support (renderman, etc) without having multiple >boxes. > > What I would like to do is setup four processor cards (one Color Turbo >and three mono turbos) in one box, and then network them via switched >10BaseT, does anyone know anything about doing this? I know a little about doing this, but what I take it you mean is that you want to put in three Turbo boards and a NeXT Dimension board. The Turbo Color will not work in a Cube. Tell me what you need to know, and I'll help you out. Be warned, I have succeeded in doing the necessary hardware modifications and I can verify that they work, but I have never solved the NetBooting problem. Maybe you can solve the NetBoot problem and we can both get out systems running the way we want. :-) Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!rjacobs.stanford.edu!rjacobs From: "Robert G. Jacobs" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Will any 24x CDROM do? Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 14:58:59 -0800 Lines: 5 Sender: rjacobs@rjacobs.stanford.edu Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rjacobs.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII "Reply-To: " Will any ATAPI 24x CDROM work to install NS3.3? If not, which ones have been used? Thanks. Rob #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!btnet-peer!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!nrtphc11.bnr.ca!nrtphba6.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 21:49:09 GMT References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> <68u4a0$ba1$1@lvl-sun700.usc.edu> <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 18 In article <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net>, Chris Jensen wrote: > >Interesting. I've often wondered about this i.e. I have 32MB in my ND board >now: Would I benefit in any way by upgrading the board to 64MB? I know the >color depth wouldn't increase (24 bit is fine anyway!). Would the screen >redraw faster? > Sure, it might. The i860 uses the RAM for window backing store and work area; when it runs out things move to the '040's RAM. The more RAM on the ND the better, although it's best to keep them balanced. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Ryan Watkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Date: 07 Jan 1998 17:22:40 -0800 Organization: vamp.org Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> <68u4a0$ba1$1@lvl-sun700.usc.edu> <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: vamp.oz.net X-Trace: 884222563 18149 vamp 206.86.0.12 X-Url: http://www.vamp.org/vamp.html X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) writes: > In article <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net>, > Chris Jensen wrote: > > > >Interesting. I've often wondered about this i.e. I have 32MB in my ND board > >now: Would I benefit in any way by upgrading the board to 64MB? I know the > >color depth wouldn't increase (24 bit is fine anyway!). Would the screen > >redraw faster? > > Sure, it might. The i860 uses the RAM for window backing store and work > area; when it runs out things move to the '040's RAM. The more RAM on the ND > the better, although it's best to keep them balanced. I've heard this - about keeping them balanced and I have them balanced with 32/32 on my Turbo ND. Its it just the reasoning that if you have lots of apps open they will use lots of screen space as well? So to prevent going to swap for either the process or the screenredraw its best to keep them balanced? But this might not be the case with processes that use little 040 RAM but lots of screenspace, or the reverse. What is the logic behind keeping them balanced? -- Ryan Watkins wind in time / rapes the flower trembling on the vine / vamp@vamp.org nothing yields to shelter it / from above / they say http://www.vamp.org temptation will destroy our love / the never ending hunger / but i fear / i have nothing to give / i have so much to lose / here in this lonely place / tangled up in our embrace / there's nothing i'd like / better than to fall - sarah mclachlan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.244.0.3!cdc2.cdc.net!news3.epix.net!news1.epix.net!not-for-mail From: Berk Ott Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NS 3.3 work on latest Pentium II machines? Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:41:41 -0500 Organization: epix Internet Services Lines: 6 Message-ID: <34B44AF5.FDFDE0B2@epix.net> Reply-To: berkott@epix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: bngr-107ppp36.epix.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Does NS 3.3 work on latest Pentium II machines? What boards are you using? Berk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.207.0.25!nntp.texas.net!nntp.flash.net!excalibur.flash.net!not-for-mail From: Dev1 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Modem brands / models for black hardware Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 00:01:50 -0500 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 31 Message-ID: <34B45DBE.AAE9C2AD@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlasc8-131.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BB742044560C3BDC20A9CE55" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) --------------BB742044560C3BDC20A9CE55 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to get a modem for a Turbo 33mhz and online access software. Can someone provice a list of current modems and models that will work on this system with NextStep 3.1 ? Also any info on installing it would be appreciated Thanks Steve --------------BB742044560C3BDC20A9CE55 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need to get a modem for a Turbo 33mhz and online access software. Can someone provice a list of current modems and models that will work on this system with NextStep 3.1 ?

Also any info on installing it would be appreciated

Thanks
Steve --------------BB742044560C3BDC20A9CE55-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Ryan Woodsmall Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial Mouse Help Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:56:21 -0600 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: <34B46A85.3E158EB9@cdsinet.net> Reply-To: woody@cdsinet.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 24599@209.83.216.112 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.30 i586) Hello all, I was wondering if anyone had any information on using a serial mouse while installing NeXT 3.2 for Intel. I am installing it on an older system without a PS/2 port, and when it gets to the first configuration screen after booting off of the hard drive, I can't use the mouse. The docs say to attact the mouse to the first serial port at IRQ 4, and I did that, actually tried it twice, but still no luck. If anyone has any information at all, please send me an email as well, as I don't have access to news groups at work. Any help will be appreciated. Ryan Woodsmall woody@cdsinet.net c716128@showme.missouri.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.fh-hannover.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 8 Jan 1998 05:49:41 GMT Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 38 Message-ID: <691pdl$gj5$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <690ea5$f4u$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> <690j57$10ua$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.92.18.247 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: rencsok X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu X-MD5: 6fd727b17729979b1dd2b20730c5e971 In <690j57$10ua$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > spammers@ruin.the.internet.channelu.com wrote: > >Mike P will surely be able to finally lay this one to rest. > > Will this do (standing in for Mike P.) ? If indeed the answer is correct. I have no problem with it. Also your answer is what I expected based on my own experiences (not systematic real performance measures with the different ROM versions available).. > >> I've seen many posts regarding 60 vs. 70ns RAM in > >> turbo NeXT hardware, but never a clean resolution... > >> > >> A few people have stated that the ROM monitor recognizes > >> 60ns RAM on power-up, but is the hardware utilizing it at 60ns, > >> 70ns, or 100ns? > > > >The hardware will run RAM it recognizes as 70 ns or faster at 70 ns, and > >slower RAM at 100 ns. All installed memory should be 70 ns or faster to > >get the 70 ns timing. > > > >-- > > Mike Paquette (mpaque@wco.com) > > Gareth > Randy rencsok at channelu dot com argus dot cem dot msu dot edu spammers works also :) Randy Rencsok General UNIX, NeXTStep, IRIX Admining, Turbo Software Consulting, Programming, etc.) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!btnet-peer!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bhars12c.bnr.co.uk!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 04:07:10 GMT References: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> <68umkc$j6q$1@maryj.bitstream.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 27 In article , Ryan Watkins wrote: > >Its it just the reasoning that if you have lots of apps open they will >use lots of screen space as well? So to prevent going to swap for >either the process or the screenredraw its best to keep them balanced? Right. >But this might not be the case with processes that use little 040 RAM >but lots of screenspace, or the reverse. > One can easily construct examples of apps that might use lots of ND RAM and little CPU RAM, but the reverse is always possible as well (eg. a big Maple job.) >What is the logic behind keeping them balanced? > I'd say that it's the only generally-applicable advice that can be given, really. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!demos!news.uni-stuttgart.de!news From: Bernd Kopriva Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OpenStep 4.2 Installation Problem on Intel Sys with Adaptec 3940 Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 08:23:32 +0100 Organization: Comp.Center (RUS), U of Stuttgart, FRG Lines: 13 Message-ID: <34B47EF4.2B16@str.daimler-benz.com> Reply-To: kopriva@str.daimler-benz.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip001.she.debis.str.daimler-benz.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (WinNT; I) I can't install OpenStep on my system, because the installation routine recognizes only the first controller on my Adaptec 3940 board, the CD-ROM and the disk, where the system should be installed are on the second controller. Any Help ? -- Bernd Kopriva E-Mail: kopriva@str.daimler-benz.com debis Systemhaus GmbH Phone : 49-711-1749671 Dept: EDM/P FAX : 49-711-1740330 Erich Herion Str. 11 D-70736 Fellbach #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!www.nntp.primenet.com!globalcenter1!news.primenet.com!news.primenet.com!not-for-mail From: Robert Worne Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 4 Jan 1998 01:47:00 -0700 Organization: I'm not organized... sorry... Lines: 49 Message-ID: <68nia4$s24@nntp02.primenet.com> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> X-Posted-By: @198.68.36.156 (rworne) X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: In <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > Some folks seem to be able to use 57600 without any problems, especially with > turbos. > > I used an X2 modem with a non-turbo slab @ 38400 and never had any problems. > I could use it at 57600 if I didn't push it (ie large ftp downloads or image > files). > > So it's not so much the modem's speed but the speed you run the serial port. Actually, FTP and other transfers of compressed files would not be the problem, I never had a problem with that running my Turbo at 57600. What would kill it nearly every time would be large easily compressable text files, like some (text) web pages and news. Downloading all the headers via Alexandra or RadicalNews would kill the system at least twice a day. I think it's the compressed data being sent over the phone line, decompressed at the modem, and being pumped at or near the 57,600 maximum rate over the serial port that kills it. A compressed file like those found at FTP sites are not very compressible, and will travel at uncompressed speeds 28.8 or 33.6, the rated speed of the modem (a rate less than 38400). Besides, as TJL says, 38400 is a perfectly serviceable speed for an interactive internet connection, especially on black HW. Omniweb runs so slowly on a Turbo that usually the page downloads are much shorter (sometimes by an order of magnitude) than the rendering of the page, especially if tables are involved. -- //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Starving CS Undergrad: "Sorry, I don't do Windows I'd rather starve!" //-----------------------------------------------------------------// Visit my videogame collecting site! http://www.primenet.com/~rworne/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!mozart.onestep.co.uk!not-for-mail From: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 work on latest Pentium II machines? Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:12:56 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <884250776.20824.0.nnrp-04.c30b1c08@news.demon.co.uk> References: <34B44AF5.FDFDE0B2@epix.net> Reply-To: david@onestep.co.uk (David Knight) NNTP-Posting-Host: mozart.onestep.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: mozart.onestep.co.uk [195.11.28.8] Lines: 13 In article <34B44AF5.FDFDE0B2@epix.net> Berk Ott writes: > Does NS 3.3 work on latest Pentium II machines? > > What boards are you using? Hi, Yes. We are using it on 440LX and various FX based boards. --- Regards David Knight OneStep Solutions Plc #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!blackbush.xlink.net!news-out1.du.gtn.com!news-in2.du.gtn.com!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!usenet From: a2663376@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de (Markus Vollmert) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: problem with next installation Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 11:24:42 GMT Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne Lines: 22 Message-ID: <34af6e7b.475699@news.uni-koeln.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: as5200-1-c28.rrz.uni-koeln.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 hi I have got a problem installing nextstep on my new computer. I'm have an AMD K6 on a GigaByte GA-586TX3 board with an Intel 82371AB IDE On-Board Controller. To the first IDE Controller I've conected an Fuijutsu 3,5GB Harddisk. To the second Controller I've connected a ZIP-Drive as master and a toshiba CD-ROM as slave. On installation I'm using the Beta-Drive Disk with the Dual-FIFO Support Driver. But after choosing installing on a clear partition and creating the partition installation cancels with the message 'cannot format partition'. But on startup everything is found. The harddisk has three partitions: a 1.3 GB primary Dospartition, a 1.0 GB extended partition and a 1 GB of free space, where I want to install next. Has anyone an idea, where the problem is? bye markus email: a2663376@athena.rrz.uni-koeln.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk!hgmp.mrc.ac.uk!mail.dcs.warwick.ac.uk!warwick!wapping.ecs.soton.ac.uk!usenet From: "Stuart Norton" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 65550 Chips driver problems Date: 5 Jan 1998 14:23:41 GMT Organization: Densiton International Plc. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bd19e3$d6e5d8e0$d5724e98@stueyn> NNTP-Posting-Host: annex5.ecs.soton.ac.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Anyone know how I can get a 65550 graphics chipset working in anything better than B/W VGA ? Thanks in advance -- Stuart Norton (san195@ecs.soton.ac.uk) ECS & Densitron International Plc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!surfnet.nl!news.surfnet.nl!question.ecn.nl!ecp248.ecn.nl From: "A. Bontenbal" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help broken down 17" Philips monitor. Date: 8 Jan 98 10:55:53 GMT Organization: ECN - Energy Research Foundation Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bd1c23$d7e23080$7b0d7082@P1729.ecn.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: blister.ecn.nl X-Trace: news.surfnet.nl 884257360 29318 (None) 130.112.1.3 X-Complaints-To: news@news.surfnet.nl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 -- ======================================================================== ======= E-Mail : bontenbal@ecn.nl - A. Bontenbal ECN - Energy Research Foundation Department: ECN - Nucleair Research Telephone: (+31) 224 564533 Fax: (+31) 224 561612 P.O. box 1 1755 ZG Petten Country: The Netherlands ======================================================================== ======= Help!! broken down 17" philips monitor. No high voltage. I have 3 monitors with the same problem.Need a drawing or a solution. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usc!news.service.uci.edu!usenet From: fliu@uci.edu (Feng Liu) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NS 3.3 work on latest Pentium II machines? Date: 8 Jan 1998 11:51:56 GMT Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <692eks$7na@news.service.uci.edu> References: <884250776.20824.0.nnrp-04.c30b1c08@news.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: fliu@uci.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: r2d2.eng.uci.edu > Yes. We are using it on 440LX and various FX based boards. > Does it support Ultra IDE ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.seicom.net!newsfeed.pop.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <080198233137@for-time.com> Date: 9 Jan 1998 09:39:39 GMT Control: cancel <080198233137@for-time.com> Message-ID: Sender: thanks@for-time.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!newsfeed.gol.com!nspixp!newsfeed.btnis.ad.jp!newsbase.nisiq.net!news.hbl.or.jp!news.ksi.co.jp!spinosk!threeWeb-news!news3.osk.3web.ne.jp!not-for-mail From: ici@osk.3web.ne.jp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trackball with NS3.3 Date: 09 Jan 1998 03:13:28 +0900 Organization: 3Web internet service Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: oskd211.osk.3web.ne.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP X-Newsreader: Gnus v5.3/Emacs 19.34 Hi. "Robert G. Jacobs" writes: > Are there any trackballs that work well with NeXTStep 3.3? Does it matter > whether I get a bus, serial, or PS2 interface? Any recommendations or > comments on which mice to avoid would be appreciated. I am using CH PRODUCTS Trackball PRO (PS/2). I like its big and heavy ball. I don't think serial mouse is good. When I tried (long time ago), the response was not stationary and unnaturally non-linear. -*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* $B@P0f=SD>(B Toshinao Ishii email: ici@osk.3web.ne.jp (NeXTMail/MIME Welcome) #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: How to connect NeXT <-> Win95/Win-NT? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:26:40 GMT Lines: 6 Hi, I'd like to connecte my black NeXT to PC/Intel running either Win95 or WinNT. Probably NeXT will be the server. What software I can use on NeXT and on PC? This is only experimenting and I do not want to pay commercial software, such Sun stuff. Thanks. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de!newsmaster From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trackball with NS3.3 Date: 9 Jan 1998 09:25:26 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 19 Message-ID: <694qe6$sc@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: Reply-To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wex144.extern.uni-wuerzburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: scott@doubleu.com In Scott Hess wrote: [snip] > At this late date, it's probably going to be hard to find a busmouse, > but a PS/2 is fine. _Technically_, a PS/2 mouse is just a serial > mouse on a different IRQ. Practically, though, I think NeXT optimized > the PS/2 driver so that it's not a mouse driver layered on a serial > driver, and without the layering, it tends to work better. Of course, > if you don't _have_ a PS/2 interface... Confirmed. The PS/2 feels a lot better than serial with even the new improved serial drivers (post 3.3, I think). BTW, the same holds true for Solaris x86. -- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!not-for-mail From: Chuck Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 9 Jan 1998 16:15:51 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <695ifn$3m5$3@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <68rgeb$879$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <693ccu$3dt$3@nexusgate.oche.de> <693me4$quf$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <694a43$kac$1@madrid.visi.net> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.8.169 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Chad K Johnson" wrote: > By the way, have we yet determined anything about the capability of the > black hardware's serial ports. I'd kinda like to know myself! Sure. :-) 68040-based black hardware with RTS/CTS flow control can usually handle up to 38400. Turbo 68040's seem to be able to do 38400 with no problems, and can sometimes do 57600 depending on various factors (like machine load, compressibility of the data, the protocol being used between the modems, etc). The older 68030 hardware cannot do RTS/CTS flow control, and thus cannot do anything faster than 9600 reliably, although they may be able to do 19200, again, depending on various factors. -Chuck Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!Austria.EU.net!not-for-mail From: Maximilian Weissboeck Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the EDO RAM compatible with non EDO design like the black ? Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 17:59:11 +0100 Organization: Customer of EUnet Austria Lines: 31 Message-ID: <34B6575F.47BC@softlab.co.at> References: <6931da$6p9@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Reply-To: wei@softlab.co.at NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.80.187.31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; I) Wong Sai-kee wrote: > > I think Extended Date Output was an extension to traditional DRAM access > method. Logically thinking, EDO or non EDO DRAM could be used in EDO > or non EDO designed H/W as long as both are not mixed in one board. > Am I right ? Because I want to buy 60nS 32MB SIMM RAM for use in > a Turbo Cube and may be in Turbo Color station in the future. > I would choose the cheaper RAM (now the EDO is cheaper in HK). > > Can you confirm with me about the EDO and non EDO ? > > Thanks in advance. > > Mr.Sai-Kee Wong I had very interesting experiences using EDO in Turbo Stations (one mono, one color). The 2 x 32 MB EDO I bought about 4 month ago work very well in both stations. The 2 x 32 MB EDO I bought some 4 weeks ago are only recognized as 2 x 8 MB, also in both stations. But they work very well as 2 x 32 MB in a PC of course. The EDO's are from different manufacturers, but the reason for this behavior I do not understand. So give it a try, maybe you are lucky and it just works. Max -- Maximilian Weißböck | softlab | phone: +43 1 9829400 21 Moeringgasse 20 | A - 1150 Wien | email: wei@softlab.co.at #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.155.20.4!news.cinnetic.com!doubleu.doubleu.com!news!scott From: scott@doubleu.com (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gamers: Get ALPHATRIS 95 Now! Date: 9 Jan 1998 17:15:28 GMT Organization: Is a sign of weakness Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <080198233137@for-time.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: doubleu.com In-reply-to: thanks@for-time.com's message of Thu, 08 Jan 1998 23:31:37 -0700 In article <080198233137@for-time.com> thanks@for-time.com writes: We are proud to announce the release of our newest Windows 95 game called ALPHATRIS. Alphatris is an arcade style word game which can best be described as a mix of tetris and scrabble. OH! MY! GOD! This got me so excited I almost peed my pants! Scrabble _and_ Tetris, all in one place? And on Windows 95? What an age we live in, -- scott hess (606) 578-0412 http://www.doubleu.com/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!ais.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.itis.com!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: what memory for NeXTstation color Date: 9 Jan 1998 18:13:54 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 25 Message-ID: <695pd2$1pfm$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <692t16$9pd@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <34B58A59.D5D0ED3C@bah.com> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-079.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Chong Tim wrote: >David Evans wrote: >> 72-pin SIMMs of at most 4MB. There are eight sockets, so the maximum memory >> is 32MB. > >there are 32MB 72-pin SIMMs! I'm using them in my NSTC (96M) Anyway, here's some >info from the FAQ: David is correct - the (_non Turbo_) NeXTstation color can only recognize 4MB parts, hence 32MB max. >> Yes, although unless it's 70ns or faster the Turbo will run slower than it's >> capable of. Also, since the Turbo only has four sockets you're limited to 16MB >> if you use 4MB SIMMs. > > it's incorrect, the Turbo can access 128M of RAM, see above. Note David said "...if you use 4MB SIMMs". But you are correct - Turbo's can take up to four 32MB 72-pin SIMMs, hence 128MB max. (and no, they will not recognize 64MB SIMMs as such). - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <090198130136@noreply.com> Control: cancel <090198130136@noreply.com> Date: 09 Jan 1998 18:40:49 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: please@noreply.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!sws1.ctd.ornl.gov!newsfeed.pnl.gov!noreply.com X-Original-Subject: ---- Mulderr's WORLD OF WAVS ------ X-Original-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 13:01:36 -0700 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.172.102.86 X-Original-From: please@noreply.com X-CosmoTraq: F\P#:+^8+1I60WY1QNFIY<@0/\.)EDX"-J X-Cancel-ID: _"L==@,6KWRPI^D./E%'2"Q;3:8S1M^LX-<9/FZ!=WA References: <68rlur$5vb$1@alexandria.cyantic.com> Reply-To: bornat@wxs.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: mt0053.wxs.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: mark@cyantic.com In Mark Dornfeld wrote: > I cannot initialize my ZIP drive under OpenStep 4.2 for > Intel. Is there anything special that must be done to > the drive or disk before this can happen? No, just plug and play. On the SCSI level are some things you have to take care of: Proper termination, correct ID etc. Ralf -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Bornat mobile: +49-172-9536888 Erkelenzstraat 17 vox/fax: +31-46-4517681 6132 HG Sittard work: +31-45-5262397 NETHERLANDS bornat@wxs.nl #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!btnet-peer!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: what memory for NeXTstation color Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:12:40 GMT References: <692t16$9pd@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> <34B58A59.D5D0ED3C@bah.com> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 30 In article <34B58A59.D5D0ED3C@bah.com>, Chong Tim wrote: >David Evans wrote: > >> 72-pin SIMMs of at most 4MB. There are eight sockets, so the maximum memory >> is 32MB. >> > >there are 32MB 72-pin SIMMs! I'm using them in my NSTC (96M) Anyway, here's some >info from the FAQ: > I know that. I meant that a non-Turbo machine won't like SIMMs that are larger than 4MB. >> Yes, although unless it's 70ns or faster the Turbo will run slower than it's >> capable of. Also, since the Turbo only has four sockets you're limited to 16MB >> if you use 4MB SIMMs. >> > > it's incorrect, the Turbo can access 128M of RAM, see above. > No, what I said stands. If you use 4MB SIMMs on a Turbo machine you can have only 16MB of RAM, since Turbo boards have only four sockets. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news1.digital.com!pa.dec.com!lead.zk3.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!not-for-mail From: Monty Brandenberg Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cartriges for NeXT color printer? Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 18:21:45 -0500 Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Lines: 17 Message-ID: <34B6B109.9944CA2@eng.pko.dec.com> References: <68jbb3$e2u@valhalla.comshare.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.eng.pko.dec.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=big5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) Michael Pelletier wrote: > > It seems that all the office supply stores in the area have stopped > carrying this type of ink cartrige. We ran out of Cyan, but we've > only been able to get a magenta so far from someone's dusty back room > stock. Canon BJI-643{BK,C,Y,M} cartridges. Available from some of the net refill operations for as little as $8.00 a shot. m -- Monty Brandenberg Consulting for: MCB, Inc. Digital Equipment Corp. 45 Putnam Avenue mcbinc@world.std.com montyb@eng.pko.dec.com Cambridge, MA 02139 617.864.6907 508.493.2702 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.214.99.1!ix.netcom.com!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Hendry Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Gamers: Get ALPHATRIS 95 Now! Date: 9 Jan 1998 22:22:58 GMT Organization: Steel Driving Software, Chicago Lines: 15 Sender: Jonathan Hendry Message-ID: <696802$72p@sjx-ixn3.ix.netcom.com> References: <080198233137@for-time.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: chi-il5-11.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Fri Jan 09 2:22:58 PM PST 1998 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA release 970622] Scott Hess wrote: > In article <080198233137@for-time.com> thanks@for-time.com writes: > We are proud to announce the release of our newest Windows 95 game > called ALPHATRIS. Alphatris is an arcade style word game which can > best be described as a mix of tetris and scrabble. > OH! MY! GOD! Spreading the exclamation points like that really dilutes their expressive power. It's much more effective to use them all at once, in an overwhelming expression of enthusiasm!!! HTH - Jon #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Phillip Reilly Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cable Modem Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 23:15:52 -0500 Organization: Reilly Medical Offices Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 26196@147.72.71.229 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Has anyone tried connecting a cable modem to a turbo slab? If the serial port is the limiting factor could the DSP port be used? Thanks, mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.74.141.7!zinger.callamer.com!fletch.fix.net!not-for-mail From: kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu (Treasure) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,slo.for-sale,ba.market.computers Subject: FS: NeXT Cube, Monitor, and Printer Date: 9 Jan 1998 18:50:48 -0800 Organization: Computer Science Department, Cal Poly SLO Lines: 23 Approved: moderate@fix.net (slo.for-sale Moderation) Message-ID: <696nm8$cml$1@fletch.fix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: fletch.fix.net X-Moderation: Manually Approved - MOD 1.0b Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:31933 comp.sys.next.marketplace:20012 ba.market.computers:77577 NeXT Cube, Monitor, and 400 DPI printer -040 mother board, 16MB RAM, master -030 mother board, 8MB RAM, diskless client -400 MB full height HD -1.0 GB half height HD -NeXTStep 3.3 -17 Megapixel display, still looks good -printer needs a little help, the top latch sensor thinks the top is open all the time Serious offers only. -Kristin kamundse@galaxy.csc.calpoly.edu -- ATTENTION: Despite Any Other Listing of Product Contents Found Hereon, the Consumer is Advised That, in Actuality, This Product Consists Of 99.9999999999 9.334235E-310mpty Space. [ slo.for-sale is a moderated newsgroup for the non-commercial offering ] [ of items for sale, trade, barter, or wanted to buy. This newsgroup is ] [ meant for regional interest posts only. ] [ FAQ: http://www.support.fix.net/slofaq/slo-for-sale.html ] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news From: windchsr@cyberspace.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes Date: 6 Jan 1998 14:34:41 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 26 Message-ID: <68tfe1$s5q@eve.enteract.com> References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> Reply-To: windchsr@cyberspace.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ferret.sa.enteract.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: xjasong@itis.com In <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> "Jason J. Gullickson" wrote: > Ok, first off, here is what I would like to do: > > I have a 25Mhz mono cube with an ailing monitor. I would like to > purchase a color card and display for this machine. That would be a Dimension card. > I would also like to > keep my mono card installed There's no way to remove it; the mono video is on the motherboard. > First off, how much should I expect to pay for a color processor card > and display? There's no such thing as a color cube processor card/motherboard. To get color on a cube you use a mono motherboard and a Dimension video card. Dimension cards seems to sell for about $500 without any RAM on them; they hold up to 64 megs of RAM. > And second, if I make the purchase, what do I need to do to > keep my existing processor card installed and useable. Nothing, since it'll be the only CPU card in the system. :) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news From: windchsr@cyberspace.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 6 Jan 1998 14:31:25 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 20 Message-ID: <68tf7t$s5q@eve.enteract.com> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: windchsr@cyberspace.org NNTP-Posting-Host: ferret.sa.enteract.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: In <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > In <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote: > > > > (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because > > 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) > > I'm 98% sure you can't use EDO > > TjL And I'm 100% sure you can, because I'm using a pair of 60ns 32 meg SIMMs in my turbo slab right now. :) The NeXT doesn't take advantage of the EDO-ness, of course, but they work. As to the 60ns RAM speed: It seems to depend on your ROM revision. The slab sees my simms as 60ns. -Aaron #################################################################### Date: 6 Jan 98 10:08:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes From: "Mitchell Allen" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-News-Servers: news3.ibm.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news3.ibm.net/comp.sys.next.hardware References: <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.214.83 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 25 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.ibm.net!129.37.214.83 > Also, what is the notorious "net boot" problem? Here is a run-down of this problem from my perspective. I have an Intel whihc I run as the Master NetInfo server. I have a cube with a turbo motherboard and a 68030 board. The turbo is in the real position 0 and the '030 board is in the new position 0. I have the Intel and Cube connected through an 8-port 10BaseT ethernet hub. The '030 board only has a 10Base2 connector on it. Even if I connect the '030 to the turbo board with the 10Base2 connectors and then the turbo to the hub via the 10BaseT, I get no response from the NetInfo server, although the '030 board attempts to NetBoot. I have the '030 registered as a host on the NetInfo server. I have no idea how to get around this problem unless I can find a hub that has mixed 10BaseT and 10Base2 ports and on which the 10BaseT ports are not simply for purposes of connecting two hubs. Otherwise, I think I could NetBoot this beast. I may try setting up the Cube as the NetInfo server and then Netbooting from it on a direct 10Base2 connection to the '030 board. I suppose this should work. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!nfs-jove!vram From: vram@nfs-jove.acs.unt.edu (Vijay Narayan Ramasubramanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: BT848 & MP3s Date: 10 Jan 1998 07:13:55 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 9 Message-ID: <69773j$et8@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove-1.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Is there a Bt848 driver for OpenStep 4.x (4.2/Intel)? I've got a Hauppauge WinCast TV/PCI and the device has Linux drivers for it, just wondering if anyone has wrriten or is planning on writing one for OS 4.2. Also, has anyone written a GUI based MP3 player? Thanks. Vijay Ram. nospamvram@jove.acs.unt.edu #################################################################### Date: 6 Jan 98 10:09:30 -0500 Subject: Re: Syjet on NS3.3 From: "Mitchell Allen" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-News-Servers: news3.ibm.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news3.ibm.net/comp.sys.next.hardware References: <68s2su$da8$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.37.214.83 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.ibm.net!129.37.214.83 >> Can anyone offer setup instructions for a Syjet drive running on an >> Intel box under NS3.3? Please reply via e-mail and to the newsgroup. > >Power down Intel. > >Hook up SyJet with unique ID. > >Power on. > >Just works. (Assuming it is the same as 4.1, and the SyJet is SCSI.) I think it definitely has to be through a SCSI connection. I tried this on the parallel connection, but couldn't find a drive. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable Modem Date: 10 Jan 1998 07:29:36 GMT Organization: none Lines: 26 Message-ID: <697810$qra$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: reillyof@hhs.net In <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> Phillip Reilly wrote: > Has anyone tried connecting a cable modem to a turbo slab? If the > serial port is the limiting factor could the DSP port be used? I connected one to a non-turbo slab. It worked great. I got the same throughput as I did with my P133 Intel running OpenStep. You don't connect the cable modem to the serial port (the word 'modem' here is something of a misnomer... or at least misleading). Instead you connect it to the RJ-45 Ethernet plug (looks like a wide phone jack) on the back of the slab. TjL ps -- if you do not get a static IP from your cable modem provider, you could be in trouble. Many cable modem places use DHCP to give out dynamic IPs... and that is no good for NeXT/OpenStep. -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.55.3.16!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!gamma.gslink.com!barry From: barry@gslink.com (Barry Bocaner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 6 Jan 1998 15:01:45 GMT Organization: Cows Unlimited! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <68th0p$257$1@news1.mnsinc.com> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.157.143.12 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] that Timothy J. Luoma (NOSPAM@ALL.PLS) scribbled: > In <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> PB Schechter wrote: > > > > (3) Can I use EDO SIMMs? (I ask this because > > 60 nsec EDO seem to be the least expensive SIMMs available, these days.) > I'm 98% sure you can't use EDO I briefly used 60ns EDO ram from one of those ubiquitous pc junk "stores" in my non-adb turbo colorstation while I had proper memory on order, it worked however the next recognized it as 100ns ram. I had to special order the 70ns stuff as noone had it anymore (it was all you could find just a few months ago!!) and it was about $10 more per 16mb stick... oh well, now I'm all set up and I don't need to worry about it. -- --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Barry J. Bocaner -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.52.106.6!ncar!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <68kjpv$1h5$1@news.itis.com> <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:46:22 GMT Lines: 42 In article <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com>, Jason J. Gullickson wrote: > Ok, first off, here is what I would like to do: > > I have a 25Mhz mono cube with an ailing monitor. I would like to >purchase a color card and display for this machine. I would also like to >keep my mono card installed if possible and use it as another processing >node. In the future, I would like to populate the remaining two slots with >more mono (since I don't anticipate installing a display on them) processor >cards. > > First off, how much should I expect to pay for a color processor card >and display? And second, if I make the purchase, what do I need to do to >keep my existing processor card installed and useable. > > Also, what is the notorious "net boot" problem? > > >Jason J. Gullickson > Well, you will still need the cube MB to go with the Dimension color board. This is not the dual-CPU situation unless you buy another cube MB. Then you need to ask yourself: what do you need two cube MBs for? I think this thread started when people had the 030 MB left over from 040 upgrade and had no use of it. Then the "brave" people started to play around with it and use it to control some background job. However, for ordinary home user, it seems the 2nd MB is unnecessary. This is only my opinion. The 2nd MB is supposed to control printer, FAX modem and any other things you can think about. But how often do you use them? I still use the 3rd printer toner cartridge since 1993! I would suggest that you spend your money on more and faster SIMMs, faster HD and better file system management. Those can speed things up if there is any room to improve. Of course, a turbo MB is much desired if you can find one. Hope this helps. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!nfs-jove!vram From: vram@nfs-jove.acs.unt.edu (Jove Super-User Account) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB Vibra PnP under OS 4.2? Date: 10 Jan 1998 07:27:41 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6977td$ets@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove-1.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I just purchased a SB 16 PnP Vibra card (Creative OEM). I followed the directions of someone else who posted suggesting that the Auto Detect ID be set to CTL0070 and finally the SB16 PnP driver found my card. However it tells me that it can't find a configuartion for my Vibra card which is accoridng to Creative 100% SB16/SB16 PnP compatable. I made sure in the SoundBlaster16.config/SB16PnP.table that Auto Detect IDs was set to CTL0070 and same in the Instance0.table. Can anyone sugggest anything else? BTW:I set it up for DMA 0,1 IRQ 5, Port 220 under OpenStep 4.2 for Intel. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: markm3leit@aol.com (MARKM3LEIT) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable Modem Date: 10 Jan 1998 10:00:25 GMT Lines: 9 Message-ID: <19980110100001.FAA05231@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> Dont most if not all cable modems connect to ethernet? except of course you are refering to the ones that download over cable but still upload over the phone lines....what do they call them...asychronus??? what kind of prices are the cable service charging for these? here its 29.95 per month unlinmited access 10.00 modem rent or purchase modem for 300.00 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!news.erg.cuhk.edu.hk!maews28!skwong From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Can the Turbo cube, Turbo Color, and ND VRAM use EDO ? Date: 6 Jan 1998 17:25:45 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Lines: 10 Message-ID: <68tpep$8sa@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: maews28.mae.cuhk.edu.hk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] It seems the 72pin SIMM RAM will obsolete. I want to upgrade my NeXT cube from 32MB to 128MB before the 72pin not widespread available in the market. But the EDO is cheaper and popular in HK. Is it OK to use EDO ? Or absolutely not ? Is it also true for the VRAM in ND and Tubo Color station ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: What memory goes in a turbo non-ADB slab? Date: 6 Jan 1998 17:39:53 GMT Organization: none Lines: 18 Message-ID: <68tq99$gia$5@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <68rhtm$a6l@lace.colorado.edu> <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <68tf7t$s5q@eve.enteract.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: windchsr@cyberspace.org In <68tf7t$s5q@eve.enteract.com> windchsr@cyberspace.org wrote: > In <68s2vb$da8$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > > > I'm 98% sure you can't use EDO > > And I'm 100% sure you can, because I'm using a pair of 60ns 32 meg SIMMs in > my turbo slab right now. :) Thank God for the 2% ;-) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### From: ux4evr@yahoo.com Subject: Disktab for IBM DAQA-33240 Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:52:16 -0600 Reply-To: ux4evr@yahoo.com Message-ID: <884108693.891224065@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.207.0.25!nntp.texas.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue Jan 06 17:44:53 1998 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: ux4evr@yahoo.com X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.01 (Win16; I) X-Originating-IP-Addr: 129.181.221.63 () Lines: 11 Hi, I'm looking for a Disktab-entry for an IBM DAQA-33240. Can somebody help me? Thanks in advance Salut. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gredelkai@aol.com (GredelKai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: IR: Wireless Ethernet for Next hardware? Date: 10 Jan 1998 15:00:01 GMT Lines: 2 Message-ID: <19980110150000.KAA22627@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Information Request anyone know if there is wireless ethernet for nextstep computers #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!howland.erols.net!usc!usc!not-for-mail From: mesamart Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTstep and DHCP on black Date: 10 Jan 1998 17:49:26 -0800 Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! Just a quick question, is there any way of putting an old NeXT box running 'Step on a DHCP network? Does any one have any experiences with this system and NeXT? Any info will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance.... Francisco J. Mesa-Mart http://www-scf.usc.edu/~mesamart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- USC Robotics Research Lab mesamart@robotics.usc.edu USC Computer Engineering mesamart@aludra.usc.edu -- Francisco J. Mesa-Mart http://www-scf.usc.edu/~mesamart ---------------------------------------------------------------------- USC Robotics Research Lab mesamart@robotics.usc.edu USC Computer Engineering mesamart@aludra.usc.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep and DHCP on black Date: 11 Jan 1998 04:51:27 GMT Organization: none Lines: 19 Message-ID: <699j4f$qra$16@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: mesamart@aludra.usc.edu In mesamart wrote: > Hi! Just a quick question, is there any way of putting an old NeXT box > running 'Step on a DHCP network? Does any one have any experiences with > this system and NeXT? Any info will be greatly appreciated! Thanks in > advance.... This has been a common topic of recent in comp.sys.next.* There's no current way to do DHCP under NeXTStep (assuming that the DHCP is giving out dynamic IPs). TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <21230883890024@digifix.com> Date: 11 Jan 1998 04:59:14 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <364884494823@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:92282 comp.sys.next.announce:4532 comp.sys.next.hardware:31950 comp.sys.next.software:32124 comp.sys.next.misc:27428 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29403 comp.sys.next.bugs:4672 comp.sys.next.programmer:27338 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! 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Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!194.72.7.126.MISMATCH!btnet-peer!btnet!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.algonet.se!uni-erlangen.de!uni-regensburg.de!news From: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de (Wolfgang Rpckelein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: what memory for NeXTstation color Date: 8 Jan 1998 15:57:26 GMT Organization: Uni Regensburg Lines: 24 Message-ID: <692t16$9pd@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: pcrw11.wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hi, I have lost the manuals to my NeXTstation color. What memory modules can I put in such a machine? Esp what sizes? Am I right if I remember they have to go in in pairs? Can I use the same memory in a NeXTstation turbo color? BTW: Can I just swap my mainboard for a turbo color mainboard? Thank you very much for some answers! Wolfgang -- Dipl.-Wirtsch.Inf. Voice: +49 941 943 3205 Wolfgang Roeckelein Fax: +49 941 943 3211 Uni Regensburg E-Mail: Wolfgang.Roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Universitaetsstr. 31 (MIME and NeXTmail ok) D-93053 Regensburg Germany WWW: http://www-wi.uni-regensburg.de/~row01458/ GCM/B d-- s: a- C++ US+++$ UX+++ P+ L E? W++ N++ w-- O-(++) M+ !V PS++ PE Y+ PGP(++) t+ 5? X? R+ tv b++ DI D++ G e+++>++++ h+ r y? (Geek Code V3.x) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.cuhk.edu.hk!news.erg.cuhk.edu.hk!maews28!skwong From: skwong@mae.cuhk.hk (Wong Sai-kee) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Is the EDO RAM compatible with non EDO design like the black ? Date: 8 Jan 1998 17:12:10 GMT Organization: Engineering Faculty CUHK Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6931da$6p9@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: maews28.mae.cuhk.edu.hk X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I think Extended Date Output was an extension to traditional DRAM access method. Logically thinking, EDO or non EDO DRAM could be used in EDO or non EDO designed H/W as long as both are not mixed in one board. Am I right ? Because I want to buy 60nS 32MB SIMM RAM for use in a Turbo Cube and may be in Turbo Color station in the future. I would choose the cheaper RAM (now the EDO is cheaper in HK). Can you confirm with me about the EDO and non EDO ? Thanks in advance. Mr.Sai-Kee Wong #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep and DHCP on black Date: 11 Jan 1998 21:56:07 GMT Organization: none Lines: 36 Message-ID: <69bf5n$8li$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <699j4f$qra$16@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <69bb4v$g1j$2@darla.visi.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: dwy@ace.net In <69bb4v$g1j$2@darla.visi.com> David Young wrote: > When I get back to my machine at school, I will release my m68k binary of ISC > dhclient and the associated dhclient-script needed to properly configure a > NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP machine on a DHCP-administered LAN. The software has > been in testing on my machine for the past semester, which I guess is four > months. It appears to work. This will be in approximately nine days. That would be great! Do you have access to the full quadfat source code so you could release a 4fat binary? If not, please drop me a note and perhaps we could work something out, as I have them installed here. I know at least an Intel version would be very much appreciated. Of course if you were willing to make source code publically available, that would be great. If you'd rather not that's fine too but I'd like to see at least a dual-fat version (since I mainly use Intel and may one day need DHCP :-) > Please do not send me e-mail asking for the software now; I simply have no > physical access to it. Ok, I'll set my watch for 9 days ;-) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.idt.net!nntp.texas.net!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: geoffrey botkin Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Next Backups Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:13:31 +0500 Organization: deerwood studios Lines: 23 Message-ID: <34B8D38B.3976@intrepid.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E (Macintosh; U; 68K) Hi All, I am system administrator for a small animation company in the D.C. area. Our primary 2D computer is an Intergraph TD-200 running both NEXT and Windows NT (on the same drive but different partitions). Recently a glitch came up and Windows won't open. All my NT tech support guys say this is a small problem to fix, BUT that NT may not recognize the partition and thus wipe out the entire drive. Naturally I want to back up all of my year's worth (1.23 Gigs) of Animo (our software) files before I experiment. I tried a SyJet 1.5 drive, which did not work, and a Jaz drive with the same results. Do you have any ideas on which drives I should try and any info on how I should proceed. If it's not to much trouble, I also need to know where I can find any Next tech groups. Thanks for your help on this urgent matter. Isaac Botkin Deerwood Studios 108 deerwood Rd. Gerrardstown, WV 25420 304-229-5499 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sane@istar.ca (sane@istar.ca) Subject: Problems with on board scsi on Black hardware. Organization: None X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 15 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:41:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ts15-03.tor.istar.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:41:43 EST Hi. I have a non-turbo NeXTStation. I had a problem with my primary (and only) disk; the machine would hang at "checking system files" (with no disk access) and had to be powered down by disconnecting power from the unit (the power switch on the keyboard did not work). I left the unit alone for a few days and powered it back on. I now get "SCSI Error" as it tries to boot. It accesses the disk for less than a second and displays "Loading from Disk" and goes back to "SCSI Error". I replaced the disk and now need to reinstall NeXTStep. Anyone have any ideas? Sane. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Mix FP & EDO RAM on Asus? Date: 12 Jan 1998 19:42:39 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <69drnf$lcp$1@brie.direct.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: van-as-12c11.direct.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) I've got an Asus P/I-P55TP4XE motherboard with 2 simms in bank zero accounting for 32megs of fast page RAM. The questions are... Can I add 2 more simms of EDO RAM? Will the system handle the banks appropriatley given the type of memory? If so, then, for performance, should the EDO be placed where the current simms sit? Thanks in advance, Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely P.S. The return e-mail address is warped to spoil spammers. Removing the obvious will make it useable. I'll check back here for responses. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!btnet-peer!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: ZIP drive on NeXT HW Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:16:02 GMT References: <34BA3BE9.63F6F9C1@msi.se> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 23 In article <34BA3BE9.63F6F9C1@msi.se>, Harald Ellmann wrote: >Hello NeXT cvommunity, > >I recently bought an IOMEGA ZIP drive for my NeXTstation color. >Althought the installation was no problem and the drive is recognized as >a SCSI unit by the OS (NEXTSTEP 3.2) it douesn't work very well. >It is quite noisy compared to a ZIP drive on a mac and a look on the >console reveals that there are a lot of hardware errors when reading and >writing to the disk, resulting in several retrials. >Is this a common problem? How can it be solved? > TJL will tell you to return it and buy a Syquest drive. ;-) Anyway, my Zip drive works fine on both my cube and my slab. It's possible that your drive and/or media is hosed. I'd try it on another machine (eg. on a Mac) and see if it's still dead. Either way try exchanging it for another one. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: Ken Johnson Subject: Re: about 16-bit DMA! X-Nntp-Posting-Host: svxtrm29.stl.mo.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <34BA5C5C.482C@nospammindspring.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: The Boeing Company References: <69dedt$dnl@info.bta.net.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:09:32 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/819) Lines: 10 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:65596 comp.sys.next.hardware:31958 Wang Jinyu wrote: > > Hi, > I need something about 16-bit DMA, could anyone tell me where I can > find the information about it. Thanks. How about the Internet. :) /Bests KJ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZIP drive on NeXT HW Date: 12 Jan 1998 21:24:21 GMT Organization: none Lines: 34 Message-ID: <69e1m5$8sp$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34BA3BE9.63F6F9C1@msi.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) In David Evans wrote: > > TJL will tell you to return it and buy a Syquest drive. ;-) Heh heh... Well now I don't need to :-) > Anyway, my Zip drive works fine on both my cube and my slab. It's possible > that your drive and/or media is hosed. I'd try it on another machine (eg. on > a Mac) and see if it's still dead. Either way try exchanging it for another > one. See! I'm right, try exchanging it for another removable device.... preferably one not made my a M$-like company ;-) It's important with these things to make sure that the SCSI termination is set, and that the cables are shielded (ie: cost more). TjL ps -- I'm not saying I haven't had any problems with my SyQuest drives. What I am saying is that I've had no problems getting it hooked up and working (SyJet doesn't require a disktab like the Jaz drive does) and when something didn't work, it usually meant that the part was faulty. One RMA later, everything was peachy-keen. SyQuest's support is what keeps me coming back. Character does matter. -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!news3.voicenet.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Waters Subject: Re: ZIP drive on NeXT HW Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware References: <34BA3BE9.63F6F9C1@msi.se> Distribution: world User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980105 (UNIX) (SunOS/4.1.4 (sun4c)) Lines: 35 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:57:44 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: omni1.voicenet.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:57:44 EST Harald Ellmann wrote: : Hello NeXT cvommunity, Helllllloooooo Mr. Ellman! Well, I have a Zip on my Turbo Color Slab and have _no_ problems with it at all... also I had it hooked up to a circa 1991 color slab at my friends, still with no problems.... admittedly, it is loud. but no errors perhaps your scsi cable is poorly sheilded.. or it could be a termination issue I have a very highly sheilded cable from my Vax3100 with the end cut off, and a AMP DB25 connector at the other end, I wrapped all the soldering points with sheilding from soem T1 cable I had laying around and used rubber shrink-wrap to seal it off.. but I am obsessive-compulsive.. so :) try a new cable... and let us know what your results are If not, Ill buy the zip from ya, because I need one for my sampler :) johnny waters@inext.net :wq : I recently bought an IOMEGA ZIP drive for my NeXTstation color. : Althought the installation was no problem and the drive is recognized as : a SCSI unit by the OS (NEXTSTEP 3.2) it douesn't work very well. : It is quite noisy compared to a ZIP drive on a mac and a look on the : console reveals that there are a lot of hardware errors when reading and : writing to the disk, resulting in several retrials. : Is this a common problem? How can it be solved? : Thanks in advance. : Harald #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.95.128.196!news-nyc.telia.net!masternews.telia.net!News.Amsterdam.UnisourceCS!news.wxs.nl!news From: Ralf Bornat Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HP 4c and Adaptec 1460 Date: 12 Jan 1998 22:12:56 GMT Organization: World Access Lines: 16 Message-ID: <69e4h8$mpj1@reader2.wxs.nl> Reply-To: bornat@wxs.nl NNTP-Posting-Host: mt0035.wxs.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Does anyone have a HP 4 c scanner connected to a Slim SCSI adapter (APA1460) from Adaptec? If so, what am I doing wrong? :-( The scanner works fine on my old NeXTstation. Ralf -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Bornat mobile: +49-172-9536888 Erkelenzstraat 17 vox/fax: +31-46-4517681 6132 HG Sittard work: +31-45-5262397 NETHERLANDS bornat@wxs.nl #################################################################### Date: 12 Jan 98 18:37:53 -0500 Subject: Re: netboot question From: "Mitchell Allen" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-News-Servers: news3.ibm.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news3.ibm.net/comp.sys.next.hardware References: <696d3s$3fs@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.63.239 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 53 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.ibm.net!32.100.63.239 >I've got an 030 and an 040 board for a Cube. They are *almost* >able to run side by side, each with their own monitor and keyboard, >without modifying the backplane. > >The problem is that the 030 hangs on the netboot process: > >xombi2 is the name of the 040 board >xombi is the name of the 030 board > >NeXT> ben >boot en(0, 0, 0) >Requesting BOOTP information. [OK] >Booting /private/tftpboot/boot from xombi2 >............................................................. >blk0 boot: en() >Requesting BOOTP information. [OK] >Booting /private/tftpboot/mach from xombi2 >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >............................................................. >......................... > >Now the 030 board just hangs, I can't escape into the rom monitor or >anything. Hey, Aaron, long time no hear. I just solved this problem about three days ago and was able to get an '030 board to boot in my turbo dimension cube. You have to follow the net boot directions very specifically. Make sure you actually partition the main drive. I tried just making a directory, but that wouldn't get it. I also tried using a zip drive connected to the '040 board and that didn't get it either. I also suggest manually setting the host setting rather than fooling with automatic host configuration which I have found to be less than easy and certainly less than automatic. If you tell me a little more abuot your set up, I might be able to tell you if I did anything differently. Mitch #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.139.252.9!feed.newsreader.com!newsfeed.inetnebr.com!news.inetnebr.com!hubert From: hubert@inetnebr.com (Mr. Hubert Hickman ) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable Modem Date: 12 Jan 1998 05:40:58 GMT Organization: Internet Nebraska Lines: 39 Message-ID: <69cada$4th$1@owl.inetnebr.com> References: <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> <697810$qra$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.inetnebr.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Here in Omaha, I actually have a choice of two cable TV/modem companies. I use the one where I have a 'semi-dynamic' (for lack of a better term) IP number. I have a static number but it is a number valid only to the local subnet -- when I go 'outside' I get a real IP number. It works just fine. I have a friend who has a machine hooked to the other cable company, and he has a static IP number. I am happy with my cable modem. Bandwidth is great. It hooks up to the ethernet port of your slab (or in my case, a cheapo ethernet hub). Timothy J. Luoma (NOSPAM@ALL.PLS) wrote: : In <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> Phillip Reilly wrote: : > Has anyone tried connecting a cable modem to a turbo slab? If the : > serial port is the limiting factor could the DSP port be used? : I connected one to a non-turbo slab. : It worked great. I got the same throughput as I did with my P133 Intel : running OpenStep. : You don't connect the cable modem to the serial port (the word 'modem' here : is something of a misnomer... or at least misleading). Instead you connect : it to the RJ-45 Ethernet plug (looks like a wide phone jack) on the back of : the slab. : TjL : ps -- if you do not get a static IP from your cable modem provider, you could : be in trouble. Many cable modem places use DHCP to give out dynamic IPs... : and that is no good for NeXT/OpenStep. : -- : My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. : I will check for followups. : If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: : luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fci-se!fci!news.dalnet.se!seunet!news2.swip.net!nike.volvo.se!usenet From: "Håkan Jonsson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q: Matrox Mystique 220 driver for NSFIP3.3? Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:55:22 +0100 Organization: Volvo Truck Corporation Lines: 8 Message-ID: <34BA12B9.EE79246E@vtc.volvo.se> Reply-To: Hakan_Johnsson@vtc.volvo.se NNTP-Posting-Host: bd1162.got.vtc.volvo.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Hi! Does anyone know if the Matrox Mystique 220 driver available from Nextanswers work for NSFIP3.3? /Hakan #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!feeder.qis.net!news.umbc.edu!haven.umd.edu!hecate.umd.edu!dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu!rac2.wam.umd.edu!recurve From: recurve@wam.umd.edu (Aaron David Rosenzweig) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: netboot question Date: 9 Jan 1998 23:50:20 GMT Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD Lines: 39 Message-ID: <696d3s$3fs@dailyplanet.wam.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rac2.wam.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I've got an 030 and an 040 board for a Cube. They are *almost* able to run side by side, each with their own monitor and keyboard, without modifying the backplane. The problem is that the 030 hangs on the netboot process: xombi2 is the name of the 040 board xombi is the name of the 030 board NeXT> ben boot en(0, 0, 0) Requesting BOOTP information. [OK] Booting /private/tftpboot/boot from xombi2 ............................................................ blk0 boot: en() Requesting BOOTP information. [OK] Booting /private/tftpboot/mach from xombi2 ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ............................................................ ........................ Now the 030 board just hangs, I can't escape into the rom monitor or anything. -- --- SW Son of Ginger and Harry, Aaron Rosenzweig SW http://www.wam.umd.edu/~recurve/ SW... recurve@resourceful.com SWN? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!newscore.univie.ac.at!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc Subject: cmsg cancel <69d5ui$8sm$1@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <69d5ui$8sm$1@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 12 Jan 1998 13:35:28 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: aybnqtjp@msn.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!202.84.255.3!news.hkt.net!news.netvigator.com!usenet X-Original-Subject: Looking for a S/N? X-Original-Date: 12 Jan 1998 13:30:58 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtak007013.netvigator.com X-Original-From: aybnqtjp@msn.com X-CosmoTraq: +59;WE,>/2B$,K']U;OGB_QIM1$9!#>V(3#M$Q Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Manuals for Black hardware Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 02:05:27 -0500 Organization: Flashnet Communications, http://www.flash.net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34B5CC37.5B94803D@flash.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: atlasc2-67.flash.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) I need the manuals for a NeXT Color 68040 33Mhz. Does anyone want to sell them or know where I can get them ? Thanks Steve #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!fastnet!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.enteract.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news From: rivet@chiroptera.org Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: seek errors with "disk" Date: 13 Jan 1998 04:28:06 GMT Organization: EnterAct L.L.C. Turbo-Elite News Server Lines: 9 Distribution: world Message-ID: <69eqgm$nfr@eve.enteract.com> Reply-To: nadagoth@test.org NNTP-Posting-Host: eseale.sa.enteract.com i tried to setp up a 4.3 gig fireball via: disk -p 2097152 -b -i /dev/rsd1a and eventually i get i seek error every time. would something other than a bad hard drive cause a seek error? i got it here: 2138303 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is the EDO RAM compatible with non EDO design like the black ? Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:16:03 +0000 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <34B63F31.144E763A@bah.com> References: <6931da$6p9@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-200-182.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884330161 14698 (None) 128.229.200.182 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Well folks, I do know of one instance that EDO RAM won't work... on the Apple Power Macintosh 7200 series, the Tech Info Library warns against uing EDO DIMM saying these memory will cause damage to the mothrboard. So, on some motherboard design, EDOness is an issue. my 2 cts, TC David Evans wrote: > In <6931da$6p9@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> Wong Sai-kee wrote: > > I think Extended Date Output was an extension to traditional DRAM access > > method. Logically thinking, EDO or non EDO DRAM could be used in EDO > > or non EDO designed H/W as long as both are not mixed in one board. > > Am I right ? > > I have EDO RAM in my BeBox and it doesn't understand the EDOness. Works > fine. > The same has been done in black hardware without problems. > > -- > David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca > Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ > University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer > Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.algonet.se!feed1.news.luth.se!eru.mt.luth.se!luth.se!news.kth.se!news.datakom.su.se!not-for-mail From: Harald Ellmann Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP drive on NeXT HW Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:51:08 +0000 Organization: Stockholm Univerity Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <34BA3BE9.63F6F9C1@msi.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: msim04.msi.se Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hello NeXT cvommunity, I recently bought an IOMEGA ZIP drive for my NeXTstation color. Althought the installation was no problem and the drive is recognized as a SCSI unit by the OS (NEXTSTEP 3.2) it douesn't work very well. It is quite noisy compared to a ZIP drive on a mac and a look on the console reveals that there are a lot of hardware errors when reading and writing to the disk, resulting in several retrials. Is this a common problem? How can it be solved? Thanks in advance. Harald #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cybernet-ag.de!usenet From: Andrew Miehs Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB64AWE Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:58:48 +0100 Organization: Cybernet Internet-Dienstleistungen AG Lines: 13 Message-ID: <34B9F768.979DBBD2@cybernet-ag.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.10.10.110 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; I) Hi, Has anyone managed to get a SB64AWE running under OpenStep? I have read commentry on editing the driver config files. Does anyone still have a copy of the relevant aritcle? Thanks Andrew --- PS: Is there a FAQ, or a copy of old aritcles for this group? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: "Tim S.H. Chong" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Black NeXT sound in? Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:45:38 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <34B9F44A.4D6E1E66@bah.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-200-181.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884601929 16536 (None) 128.229.200.181 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi all, I have my NeXTstation Turbo Color for almost 1 month now, this is one thing that I still haven't figured it out yet...when I boot the machine in verbose mode, I can see only Sound-out option no Sound-in among the SCSI, ENET etc. Then on the Preference.app, I can't seem to set the Sound-in gain at all, I have tried the old Apple Macintosh Omni-directional mike (I know the PlainTalk mike won't work)... failed. And even since I put in the usic Kit, that demo Sound program won't play anymore saying something missing or wrong (can't remember)... how do I record a sound via my NeXT? FYI, she's running OS4.2, 96M/2G, ADB. Thanks for any info. Tim #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-master.cisco.com!not-for-mail From: tc Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: running color slab headless? Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:32:18 -0800 Organization: three cee Lines: 14 Message-ID: <34BB0A72.41C67EA6@3c.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tcollins-ss10.cisco.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0C-CISCOENG (X11; I; SunOS 4.1.4 sun4m) hi, i'd like to be able to run my color slab without a monitor/keyboard/soundbox. i remember reading about how to do this somewhere, but i can seem to find this info. in particular, how does one turn on the slab without the keyboard "power" key? any pointers/help appreciated. thanks, tracy -- tc@3c.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsgate.duke.edu!zombie.ncsc.mil!cs.umd.edu!carmi.cs.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Black NeXT sound in? Date: 12 Jan 1998 17:51:34 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Lines: 38 Message-ID: <69dl76$d5q$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> References: <34B9F44A.4D6E1E66@bah.com> Reply-To: seanlnospam@nospamcs.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: carmi.cs.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Tim S.H. Chong (chongt@bah.com) wrote: >I have my NeXTstation Turbo Color for almost 1 month now, this is one >thing that I still haven't figured it out yet...when I boot the machine >in verbose mode, I can see only Sound-out option no Sound-in among the >SCSI, ENET etc. > >Then on the Preference.app, I can't seem to set the Sound-in gain at >all, I have tried the old Apple Macintosh Omni-directional mike (I know >the PlainTalk mike won't work)... failed. And even since I put in the >usic Kit, that demo Sound program won't play anymore saying something >missing or wrong (can't remember)... how do I record a sound via my >NeXT? If the demo program is unable to record, then you've got a problem with your machine; either you're missing some software library, or something is grabbing the NXSoundIn resources, or your Sound Box is having trouble. Since the Sound program says that something is "missing" or "wrong", it's likely one of the two first ones (good news for you, as they can be fixed without expense probably). You've got to post more information on what the Sound.app program says exactly, plus your system version. Also, try recording with Resound.app, and see what you get. I suggest this because (1) as I wrote the program I'm very very familiar with it and it's a solid program, and (2) it'll give you another data point. Resound.app also provides panels that let you manipulate all of NeXT's SoundIn/SoundOut parameters, if you're interested. However, some parameters only apply to PCs, not to black hardware (and vice versa of course). You can get Resound at ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/apps/soundapps/Resound.2.4.NIHS.b.tar.gz Be aware that I'm soon coming out with 2.5 (which fixes two nasty NeXTSTEP SoundKit bugs that would gotcha Resound and other sound programs (including Sound.app)). _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.idt.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.netkonect.net!london.netkonect.net!mdc3.londonweb.net From: "Nicky Wolfe" Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,cs-monolit.gated.lists.freebsd.hardware,de.comp.os.linux.hardware,fido.belg.fra.hardware,fido. Subject: Re: Make money Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:02:49 -0000 Organization: London Web Message-ID: <34bb58ce.0@london.netkonect.net> References: <01bd1295$39c23d60$37b7edcc@jacek> NNTP-Posting-Host: london.netkonect.co.uk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Lines: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc:93072 comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage:34026 comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:25628 comp.sys.next.hardware:31974 comp.sys.sgi.hardware:34894 comp.sys.sun.hardware:54776 de.comp.os.linux.hardware:22984 Self-starters required for growing ISP. Unlimited earnings selling Internet related services based on proven model. Build up ongoing revenue stream The beauty of this system is you can recruit others to do the work for you. 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: what memory for NeXTstation color Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 19:00:35 GMT References: <692t16$9pd@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 30 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans In article <692t16$9pd@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de>, Wolfgang Rpckelein wrote: >Hi, > >I have lost the manuals to my NeXTstation color. > >What memory modules can I put in such a machine? Esp what sizes? Am I right >if I remember they have to go in in pairs? > 72-pin SIMMs of at most 4MB. There are eight sockets, so the maximum memory is 32MB. >Can I use the same memory in a NeXTstation turbo color? > Yes, although unless it's 70ns or faster the Turbo will run slower than it's capable of. Also, since the Turbo only has four sockets you're limited to 16MB if you use 4MB SIMMs. >BTW: Can I just swap my mainboard for a turbo color mainboard? > Yes. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Date: 8 Jan 98 16:46:31 -0500 Subject: Re: How to connect NeXT <-> Win95/Win-NT? From: "Mitchell Allen" X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-News-Servers: news3.ibm.net X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news3.ibm.net/comp.sys.next.hardware References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.63.143 Organization: IBM.NET Lines: 14 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news3.ibm.net!32.100.63.143 >Hi, I'd like to connecte my black NeXT to PC/Intel running either >Win95 or WinNT. Probably NeXT will be the server. What software >I can use on NeXT and on PC? This is only experimenting and I do not >want to pay commercial software, such Sun stuff. Thanks. Well, you can always just FTP back and forth, but I suppose you want somethign mroe sophisticated than that. There are programs out there called samba and rumba that are supposed to help with this, but I have never tried them. You could also set up the NT as an AppleTalk server and then access it from a NeXT running CAPer. Mitch #################################################################### From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Multiple-CPU Cards in Cubes Date: 8 Jan 1998 20:01:17 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 47 Message-ID: <693bad$3dt$1@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <68sj29$8p2$1@news.itis.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!193.174.75.126!news-was.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail "Mitchell Allen" wrote: >> Also, what is the notorious "net boot" problem? > >I have an Intel whihc I run as the Master NetInfo server. I have a cube >with a turbo motherboard and a 68030 board. The turbo is in the real >position 0 and the '030 board is in the new position 0. I have the Intel >and Cube connected through an 8-port 10BaseT ethernet hub. The '030 board >only has a 10Base2 connector on it. Even if I connect the '030 to the >turbo board with the 10Base2 connectors and then the turbo to the hub via >the 10BaseT, I get no response from the NetInfo server, although the '030 >board attempts to NetBoot. I have the '030 registered as a host on the >NetInfo server. AFAIK it isn't possible to use both ethernet ports at the same time (in fact it's only one port with two connectors). On boot time, first the 10baseT port is tested and if there is no response, the 10base2 port. You might find something about this in system administration manuals. It's the same with every combo ethernet card for PCs. You can use only one port at a time. >I have no idea how to get around this problem unless I can find a hub that >has mixed 10BaseT and 10Base2 ports and on which the 10BaseT ports are not >simply for purposes of connecting two hubs. > >Otherwise, I think I could NetBoot this beast. I may try setting up the >Cube as the NetInfo server and then Netbooting from it on a direct 10Base2 >connection to the '030 board. I suppose this should work. You have two possibilities: set the whole network on 10base2 - you might need another network card on the Intel PC. Or you buy a 2nd network adapter fopr the Intel with BNC port and use two physical networks with the Intel as router. I would suggest the first possibility. I had the same problem, when I bought my new IBM Intellistation, which comes with an Intel Etherexpress (only 10baseT). I have a Linux PC running as an ISDN router with a NE2000 (only BNC) and a Nextstation with both ports. I bought a SMC EtherPower PCI which works fine under NS3.3 and every other system I tried on the Intel. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB16PnP Date: 8 Jan 1998 20:04:00 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 16 Message-ID: <693bfg$3dt$2@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <68j3c0$k9m@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!193.174.75.126!news-was.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail heller@altoetting-online.de wrote: >So, try adding the vendor ID in the ...Instance0 configuration file (or use >expert options in Configure.app). To get the vendor ID, there is a little >program somwhere (I am not at my NS-intel machine now, but I think in >.../Drivers/System.config/), called PnPsupport or PnPtest or so, which you >can call and it shows all that info for all plugged in cards. The vendor ID is printed in the boot messages (CTLxxxx for SoundBlaster). You can find it in /usr/adm/messages, too. Michael -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### From: michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: 8 Jan 1998 20:19:42 GMT Organization: I.N.-Regionaldomain oche.de, Aachen, Germany Lines: 41 Message-ID: <693ccu$3dt$3@nexusgate.oche.de> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <68rgeb$879$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nexus1.oche.de X-No-Archive: yes X-PGP-fingerprint: 14 49 5A 63 5E 14 90 6A B6 54 F7 04 6F C2 1D FB X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!news.oche.de!nexusgate.oche.de!not-for-mail Chuck Swiger wrote: >(Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS wrote: >> You can use whatever speed modem you want. However, if you use 57600 >> rather than 38400 (and I don't know what the correct term for that is... >> baud?) > >Baud is the right term, yes. It means about the same thing as "bits per >second", except that a modem has to send not just data bits, but parity and >stop bits as well. Most people don't want to think about getting 8 bits of >useful data from every 11 bits actually sent through the wire, so they just >consider bps in terms of "data bits". I'm sorry, but I don't think, "baud" is the right term here. From the nice hackers dictionary: > baud /bawd/ simplified from its technical meaning n. Bits per second. > Hence kilobaud or Kbaud, thousands of bits per second. The technical > meaning is `level transitions per second'; this coincides with bps only > for two-level modulation with no framing or stop bits. Most hackers are > aware of these nuances but blithely ignore them. > > Historical note: `baud' was originally a unit of telegraph signalling > speed, set at one pulse per second. It was proposed at the International > Telegraph Conference of 1927, and named after J.M.E. Baudot (1845--1903), > the French engineer who constructed the first successful teleprinter. Because I am not a hacker :-), I prefer to use bps for modem transfer rates, as a 33.600 bps modem runs only 3.000 or 4.000 baud (I don't know the exact values). It just transfers more than one bit on a level transition. And the bps value includes off course start and stop bits which drops the cps (character per second) rate you get. Modem protocols as V42bis don't use a start and stop bit for every transfered byte but only for a frame (they use some error correction bits, too), so it is not so much overhead. Michael (who loves to be technical from time to time :-) ) -- Michael Pieper, Bluecherplatz 14, D-52068 Aachen, Tel. : +49 - (0)241 - 902455 Fax: +49 - (0)241 - 902456 Mail : michael @ nexus1.oche.de (NeXTmail and MIME welcome) PGP : Public Key on demand #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: gredelkai@aol.com (GredelKai) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: any nextstep experience on A thinkpad Date: 13 Jan 1998 14:39:36 GMT Lines: 3 Message-ID: <19980113143901.JAA07059@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com anyone with Nextstep 3.3 running on a thinkpad if so which one does everything work #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!164.67.42.145!awabi.library.ucla.edu!128.120.8.185!mark.ucdavis.edu.MISMATCH!news.ucdavis.edu!not-for-mail From: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu (Ryan Scott) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: running color slab headless? Date: 13 Jan 1998 16:37:09 GMT Organization: University of California, Davis Lines: 31 Message-ID: <69g57l$n20$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> References: <34BB0A72.41C67EA6@3c.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vader.engr.ucdavis.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) In <34BB0A72.41C67EA6@3c.com> tc wrote: > hi, > > i'd like to be able to run my color slab without a > monitor/keyboard/soundbox. i remember reading about how to do this > somewhere, but i can seem to find this info. in particular, how does > one turn on the slab without the keyboard "power" key? > > any pointers/help appreciated. > > thanks, > > tracy > There has been a fair amount of discussion on headless machines in the past on these news groups. I would recommend doing a search on dejanews (www.dejanews.com). Use the filter option (comp.sys.next.*) and the keyword headless. There may also be a FAQ mentioned. -- ________________________________________________ Ryan P. Scott Laser and Electro-Optics Research Group UC Davis - Department of Applied Science Tel: (530)754-4358 Fax: (530)752-1652 Email: scott@leorg.ucdavis.edu ________________________________________________ #################################################################### Message-ID: <34BAA84C.1F7@photodisc.com> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:33:32 -0800 From: Skot Smith Reply-To: skots@photodisc.com Organization: Photodisc X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: no SCSI disk msg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: pd223.photodisc.com Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!ixa.net!news3.ixa.net!pd223.photodisc.com I put a Quantum Fireball ST SCSI drive in my 040 Cube and in the ROM Monitor 2.5(v66), I get: boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics no SCSI disk. NEXT> The disk spins up, it sounds like it is being accessed when I try bsd(0,0,0). I have looked at NeXt Answers and tried some stuff- to no avail. I have the SCSI id set to 0(I also tried id#1) and properly terminated. Sam G. at Orb put NS 3.3 on there for me(he's on vacation). Any help or direction would be great- Thanks, Skot skots@photodisc.com #################################################################### From: "Chad K Johnson" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: X2 Modems and Black Hardware Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:50:06 -0500 Organization: VisiNet InterNetNews site Lines: 78 Message-ID: <694a43$kac$1@madrid.visi.net> References: <68mdlk$m9p$1@broadway.interport.net> <68mtaa$chv$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <68rgeb$879$8@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <693ccu$3dt$3@nexusgate.oche.de> <693me4$quf$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-14-11.nn.visi.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!solace!xinit!fci-se!fci!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.246.194.2!news.visi.net!not-for-mail Actually, I believe that bps is the correct measure for the serial ports, as the signal is still a digital stream of bits, while baud can only be used after the signal is MOdulated onto the annoying carrier signal that we all love so much coming out the modem speaker. By the way, have we yet determined anything about the capability of the black hardware's serial ports. I'd kinda like to know myself! CK Chuck Swiger wrote in message <693me4$quf$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>... >michael@nexus1.oche.de.NOSPAM (Michael Pieper, remove '.NOSPAM' for reply) wrote: >> Chuck Swiger wrote: >>>(Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS wrote: >>>> You can use whatever speed modem you want. However, if you use 57600 >>>> rather than 38400 (and I don't know what the correct term for that is... >>>> baud?) >>> >>> Baud is the right term, yes. It means about the same thing as "bits per >>> second", except that a modem has to send not just data bits, but parity and >>> stop bits as well. Most people don't want to think about getting 8 bits of >>> useful data from every 11 bits actually sent through the wire, so they just >>> consider bps in terms of "data bits". >> >> I'm sorry, but I don't think, "baud" is the right term here. From the nice >> hackers dictionary: > >[ ...Jargon file definition of "baud"... ] > >> Because I am not a hacker :-), I prefer to use bps for modem transfer rates, >> as a 33.600 bps modem runs only 3.000 or 4.000 baud (I don't know the exact >> values). It just transfers more than one bit on a level transition. >> >> And the bps value includes off course start and stop bits which drops the cps >> (character per second) rate you get. Modem protocols as V42bis don't use a >> start and stop bit for every transfered byte but only for a frame (they use >> some error correction bits, too), so it is not so much overhead. > >Sure, but that definition doesn't disagree with what I'd said. > >As someone else had pointed out to me in email, the current generation of modems >actually only go at 2400 baud across the telephone network due to FCC regulations (here >in the US, anyway)-- 2400 level transitions per second-- but they use more than two >levels, so they send more than one bit per baud. > >However, Tim was talking about the data rate between the computer and the modem in the >section quoted by ">>>" with regard to the maximum speed that the serial ports on black >hardware could handle, so "bps" and "baud" are effectively identical for that. Of >course, there are no stop or parity bits involved there, so you could fault part of my >comments for that. > >Oh well... :-) > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | cswiger@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer > ---------------+------------------------+-------------------- > I know you're an optimist if you think I'm a pessimist. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: no SCSI disk msg Date: 13 Jan 1998 20:22:14 GMT Organization: none Lines: 33 Message-ID: <69gidm$5ig$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34BAA84C.1F7@photodisc.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: skots@photodisc.com In <34BAA84C.1F7@photodisc.com> Skot Smith wrote: > I put a Quantum Fireball ST SCSI drive in my 040 Cube and in the ROM > Monitor 2.5(v66), I get: > boot sd(0,0,0)diagnostics > no SCSI disk. > NEXT> From that prompt do 'p' to get to your preferences. Check and see what the 'boot' command is. If it is not 'sd' it should be. If you have selected 'boot extended diagnostics' then you should turn it off too. > I have the SCSI id set to 0(I also tried id#1) and properly terminated. > Sam G. at Orb put NS 3.3 on there for me(he's on vacation). Well, barring any injury in transit, I would bet that when it left Sam's quite capable hands, it was working. Sounds like pilot error to me ;-) Drop me a line if it still doesn't work. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.northstar,comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.nsc Subject: cmsg cancel <69hte7$8sd$1@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Control: cancel <69hte7$8sd$1@imsp009a.netvigator.com> Date: 14 Jan 1998 08:40:45 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: fvgimhwc@fast.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!wnfeed!worldnet.att.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!202.84.255.3!news.hkt.net!news.netvigator.com!usenet X-Original-Subject: Looking for a S/N?--------UPDATED X-Original-Date: 14 Jan 1998 08:36:23 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: hhtak009142.netvigator.com X-Original-From: fvgimhwc@fast.com X-CosmoTraq: (=IQY,54XRB,/#M7;TCL'%T?3<,L5CC$:9Q3R6LU X-Cancel-ID: //$`UUMN$%]VYZ\V#2!O#FPA,`>+GD"/IA??9CU0GSZ<46`WN\YPO]9' X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in5.uu.net!news.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Apologize: Double posting Date: 14 Jan 1998 17:41:11 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 11 Message-ID: <69itbn$33m$1@news.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bah.com 884799671 3190 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Sorry folks for the double posting... I lost contact (socket error) with my firm's news server in the West Coast. I thought the first posting didn't get thru (as it wasn't registered in my outbox too). Sorry, TC -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in4.uu.net!news.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP problem & HD-related Q Date: 14 Jan 1998 16:08:12 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 54 Message-ID: <69intc$1ip$1@news.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bah.com 884794092 1625 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hi all, Finally gotten the correct cable to connect my Zip to my NS Turbo Color. FYI, I have been using Jaz successfully on this machine (formatting as NeXT etc.). Just now, while I tried to format a Zip as a NeXT formatted disk I got these error ( from the console): Jan 14 23:31:55 Workspace[614]: DeviceInitPanel - Cannot select the default (choosing NeXT instead) Jan 14 23:32:03 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /Zip 100 /usr/etc/disk -i -h tigris -l "Zip 100" -d 100663296 /dev/rsd1a disk name: IOMEGAJAZ-1G disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1032192 72 4 8192 1024 16 10 90 4096 t sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x21 SCSI Block in error = 196608; Partition a F.S. sector 98144 write error: 1032191 wtfs: I/O error /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) It seem that the System (OS4.2), thinks the Zip is a Jaz disk (really stupid huh?)... anyway, this is among the last lines in my /etc/disktab IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: What can I do to make this error go away? Now, the only solution is to use the Zip as a Mac HFS disk (this is the only way I can format the disk correctly now). Another question is I noticed that the by the default a disk RPM parameter is set as 3600 rpm? So, is this mean that my 5400rpm Ultrastar is set to run as a 3600rpm drive because I let the system detect and partition/format the drive by default (by the OS4.2 CD). If so, is there anything I can do to ratify the problem? Thanks in advance. Cheers, TC -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsgate.cuhk.edu.hk!news.att.net.hk!not-for-mail From: 888-edwin.tam@connection.com.hk Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB64AWE Date: 15 Jan 1998 07:09:58 GMT Organization: AT&T EasyLink Services Asia-Pacific Lines: 17 Message-ID: <69kco6$kau$1@m5.att.net.hk> References: <34B9F768.979DBBD2@cybernet-ag.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.77.215.130 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Andrew Miehs wrote: >I have read commentry on editing the driver config files. Does anyone >still have a copy of the relevant aritcle? Could somebody kindly repost that article, please ? Also, how can one query a card's ID ? Any shell command ? Many thanks, -- Edwin Email....888-edwintam@connection.com.hk Note: Please Remove everything up to and including "888-" from the stated email address when reply. Thank you. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.idt.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!xmission!not-for-mail From: don@misckit.com (Don Yacktman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What are the .compress'eds again? Date: 15 Jan 1998 16:18:04 GMT Organization: MiscKit Development Lines: 37 Message-ID: <69lcrs$iej$1@news.xmission.com> References: Reply-To: don@misckit.com NNTP-Posting-Host: brain.misckit.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:31988 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29449 maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: > I download the latest Matrox driver from NeXTAnswers, the one that > supports AGP, "2536.compressed". I'm wondering what I do now, it's been a > while since I last did this. If the file is a Unix compressed file, can > simple uncompress it on my Mac and put it on a floppy? Last time I did > this I used an app on the PC, but I don't remember the exact details. You _should_ be able to uncompress it with WorkSpace.app; there are an inspector (inspect a compressed file) and menu items (in the File menu) for handling compression/decompression. The menu item will say either "Compress" or "Decompress" depending upon what file is currently selected in WorkSpace. If WorkSpace isn't handy, just remember that: ".compressed" == ".gnutar.Z" from the NEXTSTEP world, and under Rhapsody, the meaning is changing/changed to: ".compressed" == ".gnutar.gz" So the *best* way to unpack it is to use gnutar and gzip. Gzip can handle .Z and .gz automatically, so it is always best to use it for decompression, even though compress may work on some packages. Likewise, regular tar can unpack most .compressed files, but if there is a deep file heirarchy in the package, then tar will NOT decompress it properly, but gnutar will. So always use gnutar to unpack .compressed files. Typical command line: gnutar zxvf xxx.compressed -- Later, -Don Yacktman don@misckit.com My home page #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!inet16.us.oracle.com!not-for-mail From: jlincoln@gandalf.us.oracle.com (Jason Lincoln) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help: Boot Device Not Found Date: 15 Jan 1998 16:58:33 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <69lf7p$cka$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014-8-ppp-15.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hello All, Everytime I reboot my NeXTStation 040 mono w/ADB it goes into the NeXT Monitor and says that the boot device cannot be found. I then type bsd and OS4.1 loads without any problem. I have also typed p at the NeXT Monitor prompt and have set all of the machine settings. They seem to get blown away whenever I reboot. Could my battery be dead? My time is correct even after I turn my system off for a day. I have not tried turning of my system and unplugging to see if resets the clock due to a bad battery. Thanks, Jason #################################################################### Message-ID: <34BB204B.429195B@hk.gin.net> Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:05:31 +0800 From: ktchan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NEWBIE: ATI Mach 64 References: <34bd2b43.2200406@news.datacomm.ch> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp00092.hk.gin.net Organization: Global Information Networks, http://news.hk.gin.net Lines: 54 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.114!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!iagnet.net!newsfeed.gol.com!nspixp!news-tokyo.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-hk.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.hk.gin.net!ppp00092.hk.gin.net Hi You have to boot up the NS3.3 under VGA mode and the read the driver from NeXt-answer and unpack it. Then install the ATI driver with Config under Nextadmin icon. select the right mode you want your display you wanted. One important thing, If you can not boot up under ATI because you made a wrong selection of display mode that your card does not support. You have to reboot and under the "boot:" input "config=Default" (big D) and your can go back to VGA mode and make the config again. Happy NeXting Regards K.T.Chan Holger Wirth wrote: > I am a newbie in Nexstep! > > I try to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Pentium 90 with (my old) Adaptec > 1540B and a ATI MACH64 graphic card. > Everything works fine but on bootime the system can't find the MACH64 > (ATI Bios not found) and switches to normal VGA. I checked the I/O and > RAM-Addresses. I downloaded the newest driver from Next-Answers. > Nothing helps. What am I doing wrong? > > Any help welcome! > > Thanks, > > Holger Holger Wirth wrote: > I am a newbie in Nexstep! > > I try to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Pentium 90 with (my old) Adaptec > 1540B and a ATI MACH64 graphic card. > Everything works fine but on bootime the system can't find the MACH64 > (ATI Bios not found) and switches to normal VGA. I checked the I/O and > RAM-Addresses. I downloaded the newest driver from Next-Answers. > Nothing helps. What am I doing wrong? > > Any help welcome! > > Thanks, > > Holger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!206.55.3.16!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!gamma.gslink.com!barry From: barry@gslink.com (Barry Bocaner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cable Modem Date: 11 Jan 1998 16:57:27 GMT Organization: Cows Unlimited! Lines: 14 Message-ID: <69atln$ef2$1@news1.mnsinc.com> References: <34B6F5F6.F137A820@hhs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.157.143.12 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] that Phillip Reilly (reillyof@hhs.net) scribbled: > Has anyone tried connecting a cable modem to a turbo slab? If the > serial port is the limiting factor could the DSP port be used? I don't have one, but I understand most cable modems connect via ethernet, not serial ports, so the serial port speed on the slab would not be an issue. I believe that the cable modem companies use DHCP though, which I haven't seen on a next system. There may be some workaround... -- --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Barry J. Bocaner -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Boot Device Not Found Date: 15 Jan 1998 18:59:37 GMT Organization: none Lines: 19 Message-ID: <69lmap$6ak$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <69lf7p$cka$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> <69lfsp$6l$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: jlincoln@us.oracle.com I'd try a new battery. It was known as BR2/3A but the BR 2/3A is a discontinued designation. The new battery designation is CR123. These are available at any camera shop for about $9 each. TjL ps -- the batteries have a life of ~5 years, so there are a lot of them ready to die out there... -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What are the .compress'eds again? Message-ID: References: Organization: Atria Software X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Lines: 7 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:07:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ts41-11.tor.istar.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:07:28 EST Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:31994 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29459 In article , maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) wrote: Sigh. RTFM. Only five minutes later I had the card up and running. What amazes me is how much easier it is under OpenStep than Windows. Maury this I used an app on the PC, but I don't remember the exact details. Maury #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!inet16.us.oracle.com!not-for-mail From: jlincoln@us.oracle.com (Jason Lincoln) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help: Boot Device Not Found Date: 15 Jan 1998 17:09:45 GMT Organization: Oracle Corporation. Redwood Shores, CA Lines: 26 Message-ID: <69lfsp$6l$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> References: <69lf7p$cka$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> Reply-To: jlincoln@us.oracle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: tsxy014-8-ppp-15.us.oracle.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Sorry, My email address was incorrect in my original post. It should be jlincoln@us.oracle.com. Thanks, Jason In <69lf7p$cka$1@inet16.us.oracle.com> Jason Lincoln wrote: > Hello All, > > Everytime I reboot my NeXTStation 040 mono w/ADB it goes into the NeXT > Monitor and says that the boot device cannot be found. I then type bsd and > OS4.1 loads without any problem. I have also typed p at the NeXT Monitor > prompt and have set all of the machine settings. They seem to get blown away > whenever I reboot. Could my battery be dead? My time is correct even after > I turn my system off for a day. I have not tried turning of my system and > unplugging to see if resets the clock due to a bad battery. > > Thanks, > Jason > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news01.cahners.com!cyberspam!retromod!not-for-mail From: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage,comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.setup.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <34BE2718.A683F7DB@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> Control: cancel <34BE2718.A683F7DB@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 18:15:29 MET Organization: Another Netscape News Server User Lines: 2 Sender: "Kim Loong, Kuee" Approved: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.161.40.91 X-ACHHBot: Processed X-Cancelled-By: achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl X-Archive: No X-No-Archive: Yes X-No-More-Headers-After-This-One: True Article retromoderated by the RTFM-'bot for alt.comp.hardware.homebuilt See the FAQ for a.c.h.h. for details, or contact achhbot@mmc.et.tudelft.nl . #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news2.digex.net!digex!not-for-mail From: mikelea@nospam.digex.net (Hippykill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXTstep and DHCP on black Date: 11 Jan 1998 18:50:04 GMT Organization: DIGEX, Inc. Lines: 16 Approved: : Message-ID: <69b48s$d8u$2@news2.digex.net> References: <699j4f$qra$16@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dyn001025.belt.digex.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS wrote: >>This has been a common topic of recent in comp.sys.next.* > >There's no current way to do DHCP under NeXTStep (assuming that the DHCP is >giving out dynamic IPs). However, it has also been mentioned that a good workaround is to set up a cheap linux box and use it as a proxy server/firewall which is a fairly good solution... -- *mikelea@access.digex.net* "imperious, angry, furious, extreme in all things, with a disturbance in the moral imagination unlike any the world has ever known-there you have me in a nutshell: and one more thing, kill me or take me as I am, because I will not change." -de Sade #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help to identify some SIMMs inside a cube Date: 15 Jan 1998 20:21:56 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 42 Message-ID: <69lr54$g7r$1@brie.direct.ca> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: van-52-2138.direct.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) wrote: > >There are 6 (do not ask why) 30-pin SIMMs in a 040/25 cube I have. >Of course the SIMMs never pass the memory test. It's just that >they look strange to me and I have not been able to use them >with any other SIMMs. Here are the details: My NextStation had problems with memory tests when I was trying to upgrade and installed the chips incorrectly. Perhaps this is your problem? >2 are made by Texas Instrument. There are 8 chips on one side >and they are marked: > -12 >TI G880582SN >TMS 4256FML >SINGAPORE E > >On the back, they are marked:" TM4256HU8 -15L 8805" For the TI chips check out their page at http://www.ti.com/sc/docs/memory/guide.htm >The other 4 are made by NEC and there are 8 chips on one side. They are >marked: >NEC JAPAN >D41256L-15 >8819EK024 > >On the back, there are marks "NEC MC-41256A8B-15". > >All the chips look smaller than the regular chips. They may look >familar with some people. > >Are they 150ns SIMMs? Is there any way I can use them? > >Thanks for any info. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Message-ID: <34BEC346.51A888F1@nospam.hiwaay.net> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:17:42 -0600 From: Trey McClendon X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Zip / SPARQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Lines: 5 NNTP-Posting-Host: max12-85.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.85] Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.147.154.58!newstoo.hiwaay.net!pet.hiwaay.net This is my quarterly posting to this group searching for anyone who has successfully been able to use NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP with an IDE version of the Zip or SPARQ removable drive. Anyone? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!diablo.theplanet.net!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!novice.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Best Choice for Hard Drive for NeXTstation? Sender: news@novice.uwaterloo.ca (Mr. News) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:16:51 GMT References: <69lovl$715$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo Lines: 24 In article <69lovl$715$1@walter.cs.umd.edu>, Sean Luke wrote: >The cleaning people entered my office yesterday night unannounced and >knocked my NeXTstation's external drive onto the floor--a three foot drop >onto hard tile. While running. Not quite as bad as the cleaning person who broke an acquantence's vacuum line and them glued the glass back on. When he fired up the pumps the next day he got a nice shower of glass in the face... >I've been authorized up to $500, and I'm looking for the best SCSI drive >for a NeXTstation color that's under that price range, and preferably >under $300 or $400. I'm happy with my 2.16GB Seagate ST52160N. It's very quiet, seems reliable so far, and works quite happily partitioned with two just-over-1GB partitions. I get about 950K/s writing and 2MB/s reading according to iozone on my trusty non-Turbo cube. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.45.255.100!coop.net!cs.umd.edu!carmi.cs.umd.edu!not-for-mail From: seanlNoSpam@carmi.cs.umd.edu (Sean Luke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best Choice for Hard Drive for NeXTstation? Date: 15 Jan 1998 19:44:53 GMT Organization: University of Maryland at College Park Lines: 25 Message-ID: <69lovl$715$1@walter.cs.umd.edu> Reply-To: seanlnospam@nospamcs.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: carmi.cs.umd.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] The cleaning people entered my office yesterday night unannounced and knocked my NeXTstation's external drive onto the floor--a three foot drop onto hard tile. While running. The beast is a high-quality, old 5.25 1-gig drive, and it managed to survive, believe it or not. But it means I'll be needing a new drive just in case. So I'm looking to buy. I've been authorized up to $500, and I'm looking for the best SCSI drive for a NeXTstation color that's under that price range, and preferably under $300 or $400. I'll be putting it as the internal drive, so it needs to be: - quiet - reliable - 2 gigs or larger (yeah, I remember, NeXT boxes can't handle larger than 2 gigs, but I assume I can partition a larger drive appropriately) - relatively fast (it'll be the swap disk) - 3.5" and SCSI. Any suggestions? _____________________________________________________________________________ Sean Luke Spam Must Die! "I've discovered that P==NP, but the proof is too U Maryland at College Park large to fit in the margins of this signature." seanl@nospamcs.umd.edu URL: http://nospamwww.cs.umd.edu/~seanl/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <34be9463.0@news1.vsnet.ch> Control: cancel <34be9463.0@news1.vsnet.ch> Date: 15 Jan 1998 23:40:43 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: salo@mos.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news1.isdnet.net!imaginet.net!phoenix.siris.fr!ubnnews.unisource.ch!news1.vsnet.ch!195.54.194.111 X-Original-Subject: PLEASE HELP X-Original-Date: 15 Jan 98 22:57:39 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: news1.vsnet.ch X-Original-From: salo@mos.net X-Original-X-Trace: ubnnews.unisource.ch 884902091 26333 (None) 153.109.10.12 X-CosmoTraq: V1A7P#N2RQ#8A_E,3NO[99(T*[P6/F(=H0NT615V1LM`>0O`:+]SPR-: X-Cancel-ID: S'ZU#HZA1Q0#=SR$Y/>]F_RNY3Z^T7=$,Z=LM!0G[ References: <699j4f$qra$16@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: dwy@ace.net NNTP-Posting-Host: ts2-2.nj.cnct.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jan 1998 14:47:27 CST X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!munnari.OZ.AU!news.mel.connect.com.au!news.syd.connect.com.au!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!209.98.98.14!visi.com!news-out.visi.com!not-for-mail In <699j4f$qra$16@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > This has been a common topic of recent in comp.sys.next.* > > There's no current way to do DHCP under NeXTStep (assuming that the DHCP is > giving out dynamic IPs). When I get back to my machine at school, I will release my m68k binary of ISC dhclient and the associated dhclient-script needed to properly configure a NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP machine on a DHCP-administered LAN. The software has been in testing on my machine for the past semester, which I guess is four months. It appears to work. This will be in approximately nine days. Please do not send me e-mail asking for the software now; I simply have no physical access to it. -- :: d a v i d y o u n g ::::: smtp dwy@ace.net http www.ace.net :: #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Nextstep & penbased computing Date: 16 Jan 1998 00:34:25 GMT Lines: 24 Message-ID: <19980116003400.TAA26661@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19980105212800.QAA23227@ladder01.news.aol.com> It's funny you should mention that--I've been working at this from the opposite direction, "How do pen-based computers work with a NeXT system?" I just acquired an NCR-3125 (which of course, could never run NS) but it's running PenPoint, and what I'm hoping to do is to manage an elegant way to directly transfer data back and forth. From what I know of pen systems, your prospects are fairly good with one of the newer ones--just get one with an active pen, i.e. a Wacom, and then you should be able to use one of the available Wacom drivers. Screen size is going to be problematic though, but I think some of the newer systems come with 800 x 600. Have you looked at/considered the Mitsubishi Amity (the one with the wild docking station) there was a write-up on it in Pen Computing a year or so ago. Best of luck! William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: refurbishing black hardware in the (SF) Bay Area Date: 16 Jan 1998 00:34:28 GMT Lines: 13 Message-ID: <19980116003400.TAA26666@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <68v954$if4@slip.net> I'm remembering a posting about a company which would replace the tube in a no longer bright/dimmed monochrome MegaPixel display. I had it saved, but lost it. If someone could post contact information again, I'd be delighted, and promise not to lose it again. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi Subject: SyJet: pauses during transfers, bus problem? Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi Date: 16 Jan 1998 02:55:02 GMT Organization: none Lines: 26 Message-ID: <69mi66$6ak$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32004 comp.periphs.scsi:95874 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.PERIPHS.SCSI My Setup: Adaptech 2940au --> (external) SyQuest EZ135 --> SyJet [inside is a Fujitsu HD, a CD-ROM, and a Seagate HD] SyJet is supposed to do active termination. When transferring large files (mp3s, avis, etc) the progress indicator (under Win95 and OpenStep) will stop for several several seconds (upwards of 30 would be my guess without actually measuring). I'm not getting any SCSI bus timeout messages, so I'm not sure there's a problem.... but it sure seems really slow. Any thoughts welcome. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + scsi @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!news.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Zip + Jaz + Black Hardware? Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware Date: 16 Jan 1998 14:47:58 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 48 Message-ID: <69nruu$a2f$1@news.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bah.com 884962077 10319 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32005 comp.sys.next.misc:27449 comp.sys.next.bugs:4681 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Has anyone currently having a Jaz and also a Zip working fine together on a NeXT balck hardware? On my system (NSTC, OS4.2), the Jaz is working (I can format as NeXT, build disk etc) but now I added the Zip, I can never format the Zip using NeXT format (the only format that work now is Mac format)... everytime I try to format the zip, I will see that the system is trying to format the zip using the Jaz disktab info... how can I solve this problem of mine. Hers's some printout from the console and also part of my disktab: Jan 14 23:31:55 Workspace[614]: DeviceInitPanel - Cannot select the default (choosing NeXT instead) Jan 14 23:32:03 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /Zip 100 /usr/etc/disk -i -h tigris -l "Zip 100" -d 100663296 /dev/rsd1a disk name: IOMEGAJAZ-1G disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1032192 72 4 8192 1024 16 10 90 4096 t sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x21 SCSI Block in error = 196608; Partition a F.S. sector 98144 write error: 1032191 wtfs: I/O error /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) It seem that the System (OS4.2), thinks the Zip is a Jaz disk (really stupid huh?)... anyway, this is among the last lines in my /etc/disktab IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: Thanks, TC -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de!newsmaster From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Re: What are the .compress'eds again? Date: 16 Jan 1998 09:19:09 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 38 Message-ID: <69n8md$pd@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <69lcrs$iej$1@news.xmission.com> Reply-To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wex137.extern.uni-wuerzburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: don@misckit.com Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32006 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29476 In <69lcrs$iej$1@news.xmission.com> Don Yacktman wrote: [snip] > So the *best* way to unpack it is to use gnutar and gzip. Gzip can handle > and .gz automatically, so it is always best to use it for decompression, even > though compress may work on some packages. Likewise, regular tar can unpack > most .compressed files, but if there is a deep file heirarchy in the package, > then tar will NOT decompress it properly, but gnutar will. So always use > gnutar to unpack .compressed files. Typical command line: > > gnutar zxvf xxx.compressed For convenience, under NS/OS you might type "dwrite Workspace uncompress /usr/bin/gunzip" on your commandline. This will change the default decompression program to gunzip (=gzip). (It will stay that way from then on, no need to repeat it every time you log/switch on again) The "Uncompress" menu item will then be able to handle archives that were compressed by gzip. Now, if you replace the 'tar' in /bin by a link on gnutar ...... You could of course do a "dwrite Workspace compress /usr/bin/gzip", but, as Don pointed out, others could have troubles with the files you produce. Just a thought ... -- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: Chong Tim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTprinter problem Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:15:51 +0800 Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <34BF87B6.2EBD59BE@bah.com> Reply-To: chongt@bah.com NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884967346 13500 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Hi All, This evening, I discovered that my NeXTprinter is not working... the priter seem to be staring up when the printer services is started at the startup. However when I try to test print, the job seem to be stuck there in the queue... not even a movement from the printer... And I also noticed that lpd is taking about 85% of the CPU time...whaz going on? Can someone help? TC PS. I have added 2 PPDs in the the PrinterTypes/English.lproj (I think it's something like that, the path name). Have been trying to print to lpr printers at office via IP #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Tape drives for NS3.2 Date: 17 Jan 1998 00:25:45 GMT Organization: none Lines: 24 Message-ID: <69otq9$a1o$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34BFC424.BFE194A1@uic.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: lambertb@uic.edu In <34BFC424.BFE194A1@uic.edu> "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." wrote: > Can anymone tell me what tape drives (or newer removables, Jaz, Zip, > Syjet, etc.) are copatible with my NeXTstation running NS3.2, soon to be > NS3.3? Don't know nuthin' 'bout no tape drives, but Jaz, Zip, EZFlyer, and SyJet should all work. Some folks have had problems with Jaz and Zip (other's just PnP) but I still prefer SyQuest's products as they are faster, can be easily made into backup boot drives, and just seem to work better. Sadly Zip and Jaz have more marketshare. Story of my life, the lesser product had the better marketing. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!uunet!in3.uu.net!news.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTprinter problem solved. Date: 17 Jan 1998 02:09:59 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 13 Message-ID: <69p3tn$jc3$1@news.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bah.com 885003000 19843 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hi all, Just wanna to tell ya that my NeXTprinter problem is solved... I don't know why but some how the NetInfo entries for the printer is corrupted or something... the problem was solved by deleteing the printer entries in NetInfo, restart, the system saw the printer again (it's back to LocalPrinter), it's ok again... Tim -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sf1.usaw.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: HELP: Zip formatting error! And a HD related q Date: 14 Jan 1998 15:54:33 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 53 Message-ID: <69in3p$1l3$1@sf1.usaw.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sf1.usaw.bah.com 884793273 1699 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@sf1.usaw.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hi all, Finally gotten the correct cable for my zip, it's now connect to my NS Turbo Color. I have been using Jaz useful (formatting in NeXT format, using then etc.). Now I'm having a problem formatting the Zip cart under NeXT, when I choose initialize under the Workspace Menu, I get these (from the console): Jan 14 23:31:55 Workspace[614]: DeviceInitPanel - Cannot select the default (choosing NeXT instead) Jan 14 23:32:03 Workspace: Unmounted foreign disk at /Zip 100 /usr/etc/disk -i -h tigris -l "Zip 100" -d 100663296 /dev/rsd1a disk name: IOMEGAJAZ-1G disk type: removable_rw_scsi writing disk label Writing /usr/standalone/boot creating new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a /etc/mkfs /dev/rsd1a 1032192 72 4 8192 1024 16 10 90 4096 t sd1 (6,0): ERROR op:0x2a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 sd1 (6,0): sense key:0x5 additional sense code:0x21 SCSI Block in error = 196608; Partition a F.S. sector 98144 write error: 1032191 wtfs: I/O error /usr/etc/newfs /dev/rsd1a failed (status 1) It's seem that my system think the Zip is a Jaz (stupid huh)? Anyway here's part of my /etc/disktab: IOMEGAJAZ-1G:\ :ty=removable_rw_scsi:nc#3584:nt#4:ns#72:ss#1024:rm#5400:\ :fp#160:bp#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:ro=a\ :pa#0:sa#1032192:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#16:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD:aa: How can the machine format and use the Zip correctly now? Another question, I noticed there's a parameter in the disktab regarding the RPM, if my disk is formated and partitioned by default (by the OS4.2 CD installer)... what will the RPM be? Will be the default RPM, which is 3600rpm? I hope not coz my drive is a 5400rpm Ultrastar... if so, is there any command to ratify this? Thanks in advance. Rgds, Tim -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### From: hwirth@stepnet.de (Holger Wirth) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NEWBIE: ATI Mach 64 Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:30:12 GMT Message-ID: <34bd2b43.2200406@news.datacomm.ch> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99e/32.227 NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.235.180.103 Lines: 15 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.eerie.fr!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!globalip.ch!news.datacomm.ch!194.235.180.103 I am a newbie in Nexstep! I try to install Nextstep 3.3 on a Pentium 90 with (my old) Adaptec 1540B and a ATI MACH64 graphic card. Everything works fine but on bootime the system can't find the MACH64 (ATI Bios not found) and switches to normal VGA. I checked the I/O and RAM-Addresses. I downloaded the newest driver from Next-Answers. Nothing helps. What am I doing wrong? Any help welcome! Thanks, Holger #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.idt.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: network cards in NS3.3 Date: 14 Jan 1998 21:36:00 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <69jb40$1hq$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <01bd20fe$1e978370$5151a2c2@wintel3> NNTP-Posting-Host: van-52-2037.direct.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "Oliver Schirrmeister" wrote: >Hi all, > >where can I find a list of network cards that are supported by >NeXTStep 3.3. > >Thanks > >Oliver Via NextAnswers of course. See http://enterprise.apple.com/cgi-bin/NABrowse?/Compatibility_Guides Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!shore!news From: Robert La Ferla Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP 4.2 and AGP Date: 15 Jan 1998 02:27:33 GMT Organization: HTI Lines: 14 Message-ID: <69js6l$6bc@fridge.shore.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.hot.com X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.275 $] NF-00000-01 Anyone using an AGP graphics card with OPENSTEP 4.2? I noticed that Apple released drivers for the Matrox AGP card. How does it compare with a PCI card? I would imagine that you could drag a 32-bit color window around without seeing it redraw like it does on a PCI card. Robert -- Robert La Ferla Registered OPENSTEP/Rhapsody Consultant HTI Boston, MA - Washington, DC + 1 (617) 252-0088 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.udel.edu!not-for-mail From: Andrew Weiss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: AMD 5x86 X5 133 Installation Bugs Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:32:04 -0500 Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 46 Message-ID: <34BD12B4.41C6@alfred.duch.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alfred.duch.udel.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32014 comp.sys.next.bugs:4688 I just received my OPENSTEP 4.2 Mach Academic Bundle, and Installation went off without a hitch. When I rebooted the machine using verbose mode of course in preparation for final configuration using the new system on the hard-drive, it gets as far as configuring the device drivers USing default table for driver EIDE or whatever device driver was added last and then stops dead... no drive activity nothing... it's just dead Any ideas? This error almost seems impossible to fix to me. Note: Solaris Intel, Linux, Windows 95, NT, DOS all work fine on this machine. Cards: Number 9 Motion 331 2 MB PCI Video Sound Blaster 16 ISA BusLogic BT-958 UltraWide SCSI PCI Novell NE2000 Compatible BestData 28.8 ISA Incredibly frustrated... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A waist is a terrible thing to mind" -The United We Grow Poundage Fund "Windows OS's...Software that's missing a wheel, and has a denver boot on the others...reBOOT reBOOT reBOOT" -Me ANDREW J. WEISS Odd computer Hack, Sailing Guru, Chem nerd (thanks to Aaron), UNIX dweeb (Thanks to Pam), and taken (thanks to Shirin) -COOL he works with LINUX, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP IRIX OpenBSD 2.1 Mac68k (IIx/8/1080) Solaris 2.5.1 x86 and SParC and coming soon: Rhapsody cactopus@alfred.duch.udel.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!nfs-jove!vram From: vram@nfs-jove.acs.unt.edu (Vijay Narayan Ramasubramanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: TV/Card BT848 Date: 15 Jan 1998 01:15:38 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 9 Message-ID: <69jnvq$i8j@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove-1.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I was wondering if anyone has written or plans to write a TV/Video driver for the Bt848 series chipset. There are sereral TV Cards based on them (from Hauppague, STB, etc.) and I'd love it if I got drivers for OpenStep 4.2/4.x Anyone have plans to do this? Vijay. vram@jove.acs.unt.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.2 and AGP Message-ID: References: <69js6l$6bc@fridge.shore.net> Organization: Atria Software X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Lines: 14 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:43:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ts10-10.tor.istar.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:43:33 EST In article <69js6l$6bc@fridge.shore.net>, Robert La Ferla wrote: > Anyone using an AGP graphics card with OPENSTEP 4.2? I noticed that > Apple released drivers for the Matrox AGP card. How does it compare > with a PCI card? I would imagine that you could drag a 32-bit color > window around without seeing it redraw like it does on a PCI card. I _just_ bought one (like four hours ago). I don't have the driver on a disk yet though!!! Once I figure that one out I should be OK. Maury #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail From: maury@softarc.com (Maury Markowitz) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.administrator Subject: Can't boot to partition 1 Message-ID: Organization: Atria Software X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 Lines: 39 Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 04:53:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ts10-10.tor.istar.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:53:34 EST Ok, here's the series of events... a) build my PC. Learn how poorly designed PC's are, sigh. b) install Win95, start with... try 1) fdisk runs off the floppy, I set aside a 2gig FAT32 partition for Win 2) fails at this point, because it writes to the floppy but ships protected 3) reboot, but this doesn't work because it boots to C rather than A, but C is there but has no OS 4) configure the CMOS to boot from A again 5) start over, get it running 6) install Win95 7) attempt no less than 7 times to get my AGP card running, this is hard because the CD for the card keeps wanting to run over DeviceMac and kills the process 8) finally it runs, but the quality is not all that hot (working on it) All told this was a frustrating process that would not have been accomplished by anyone that didn't know what a "Fail writing to drive A" is. c) start installing OpenStep 4.2 d) works perfectly the first time (amazing considering my prior experiences) e) the graphics come up as 640x480x16, and I don't have the proper driver for "better" (working on this) Ok, here's the problem. Although OS is on a new second partition (one for Win95, a new one for OpenStep) I can't boot to win. The "active" drive is the 2nd partition and OS boots fine, but attempting to select the first partition to boot to fails. Ok, what did I do wrong? Use FAT32? Anything I can do to solve this as-is, or do I need to re-format the 1st partition as normal FAT? Maury #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.periphs.scsi,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Chaining question: SyQuest SyJet, EZ135 (external) with Apaptec 2940au Followup-To: comp.periphs.scsi Date: 17 Jan 1998 00:12:31 GMT Organization: none Lines: 35 Message-ID: <69ot1f$a1o$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.periphs.scsi:96084 comp.sys.next.hardware:32018 NOTE: FOLLOWUPS TO COMP.PERIPHS.SCSI This is the setup I have: Adaptec --> EZ135 --> SyJet That works OK but I do seem to get long pauses when transferring large files under OpenStep and Win95, and even write errors under Win95. The SyJet does active termination. I tried changing it to Adaptec --> SyJet --> EZ135 and put on the terminator that came with the EZ135 (I don't know what kind of termination it does... I don't think it is active termination... I'm almost sure of it). But when I do that I can't even get through the boot process... I get a lot of SCSI bus timeouts from the Adaptec. What's wrong? Why can't I chain it that way? What else can I try to get rid of the long pauses? (right now I've removed the EZ135 all together, but that's not really a good solution) TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + scsi @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!jove1!vram From: vram@jove1.acs.unt.edu (Vijay Narayan Ramasubramanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB64AWE Date: 17 Jan 1998 05:31:09 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 14 Message-ID: <69pfmt$he@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I had some problem getting my ViBRA 16C based card (SB16 compatable) to work with OpenStep 4.2 because it was PnP but it works now. What you really have to do is boot with -v, looking for your PnP devices, it should say something like CTL0070 (ID) and 0xFFFFFF (Serial No?) or something similar when listing PnP devices. Goto your config.app, add the sound (as SB16 PnP), then goto expert mode, and change the Autodetect IDs to your ID (mine is CTL0070). Save and reboot, boot verbose and see if it finds and configures your card. BTW: Leave it at it's default settings if possible, I tried changing them and afterwards it would not load a proper configuration /stopped booting. Vijay. nospam@@@@@@@@@vram@jove.acs.unt.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!winter.news.erols.com!not-for-mail From: Robert Lutwak Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: 19 Jan 1998 15:56:34 GMT Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 31 Message-ID: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> Reply-To: Robert Lutwak NNTP-Posting-Host: dam-as16s07.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 885225394 21800 207.172.140.198 (19 Jan 1998 15:56:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) In <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Informal survey: > > I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were > made by NeXT inc. > > This is partly out of curiosity and partly out of having a question to ask > anyone who is. > I still use mine for backups. It's painfully slow. I usually fire up a copy operation and go to bed. If I'm lucky, it's done by morning. Robert p.s. I tried to send this via private E-mail, but you've cleverly removed all signs of a return address on your post. I guess that thwarts the spammers. -- Robert Lutwak, Physicist Laser Cooling Group National Institute of Standards and Technology Robert.Lutwak@NIST.gov (Federal business only) Robert@amo.mit.edu (all other) Note: Lutwak@mit.edu will expire 1/1/98 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!130.203.3.49.MISMATCH!news.cse.psu.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news3.cac.psu.edu!cnn.Princeton.EDU!usenet From: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Zip / SPARQ Date: 16 Jan 1998 12:08:35 GMT Organization: Princeton University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <69nik3$5ge$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> References: <34BEC346.51A888F1@nospam.hiwaay.net> Reply-To: tvz@Princeton.EDU (Timothy Van Zandt) NNTP-Posting-Host: zandtwerk.princeton.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: tgm@nospam.hiwaay.net In <34BEC346.51A888F1@nospam.hiwaay.net> Trey McClendon wrote: > This is my quarterly posting to this group searching for anyone who has > successfully been able to use NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP with an IDE version of > the Zip or SPARQ removable drive. I tried unsuccessfully to get an IDE ZIP to work properly last October. It would work as a fixed drive, when the disk was present in drive at boot time. The disk could be manually unmounted and ejected, but it was not possible to then reinsert a disk and get it recognized. HOWEVER: I probably got one of the last of the old IDE ZIP drives. Around September, IOMEGA modified the IDE ZIP's to make them ATAPI compliant (a few other changes were made as well). This is more likely to work. Tim Van Zandt #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:20:46 GMT Lines: 26 In article <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com>, Robert Lutwak wrote: >In <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >> >> Informal survey: >> >> I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were >> made by NeXT inc. >> >> This is partly out of curiosity and partly out of having a question to ask >> anyone who is. >> > >I still use mine for backups. It's painfully slow. I usually fire up a copy >operation and go to bed. If I'm lucky, it's done by morning. > >Robert > I just wonder how you could go to bed with the OD running that loud? ;-) It's very handy to have a working OD, instead of tape drive. I guess the new toys, such as JAZ and ZIP etc., would be similar. Are those good alternatives? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.wli.net!newshub.sirius.com!newsfiler.sirius.com!ppp-asfm08--199.sirius.net!user From: david@wood.net (David R. Perry) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 2.88Mb SuperFloppy -> Internal? Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:07:38 -0800 Organization: Sirius Connections Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-asfm08--199.sirius.net X-newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.2.2 I have an external PLI SuperFloppy drive for my cube - I'd like to mount it internally instead of hooking it up to the SCSI chain. Do I need to do anything special other than getting the right cable?? - And what is the right cable?! David... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.his.com!news3.his.com!gabby.ShireNet.com!genoa.com!usenet From: Alex Blakemore Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISO black mouse, not hockeypuck Date: 19 Jan 1998 01:56:14 GMT Organization: Genoa Software Systems Lines: 14 Message-ID: <69ubru$37t@saturn.genoa.com> Reply-To: Alex Blakemore NNTP-Posting-Host: saturn Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.marketplace:20083 comp.sys.next.hardware:32024 Does anyone have a NeXT mouse they are willing to sell? I can't use the last hockeypuck style mouse they made. (wrong ROM version for that) So if you have a black rectangular NeXT mouse that you are willing to sell, please respond by email. Thanks. -- Alex Blakemore alex@genoa.com NeXT, MIME and ASCII mail accepted #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: max.barel@wanadoo.fr (Max Barel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: SB64AWE Date: 18 Jan 1998 00:30:40 GMT Organization: Wanadoo - (Client of French Internet Provider) Lines: 27 Message-ID: <69rifg$aku$1@peuplier.wanadoo.fr> References: <69pfmt$he@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rom1-124.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) vram@jove1.acs.unt.edu (Vijay Narayan Ramasubramanian) wrote: >I had some problem getting my ViBRA 16C based card (SB16 compatable) to >work with OpenStep 4.2 because it was PnP but it works now. What you >really have to do is boot with -v, looking for your PnP devices, it should >say something like CTL0070 (ID) and 0xFFFFFF (Serial No?) or something >similar when listing PnP devices. Goto your config.app, add the sound (as >SB16 PnP), then goto expert mode, and change the Autodetect IDs to your ID >(mine is CTL0070). Save and reboot, boot verbose and see if it finds and >configures your card. > >BTW: Leave it at it's default settings if possible, I tried changing them >and afterwards it would not load a proper configuration /stopped booting. > I did pass this step some weeks ago but i am still unable to run my SB16 (Vibra16x) in 16 bit mode. The driver force me to use DMA 5, 7, or 9 as 16 bit port, and the card only allow 0,1, or 3 (for the first as for the second DMA channel). I read this from PnPDump. Any setting i use drive to either the driver rejecting the setting at boot or if accepted the card is soundless. Nevertheless the sound level is still effective (for noise). I already asked about it in a previous post, but i'm still there. Any thougths. -- Mailto:Max.Barel@cuefa.inpg.fr : Adresse primaire / primary adress Mailto: Max.Barel@wanadoo.fr : Adresse secondaire / secondary adress (NeXTMail bienvenu / NeXTMail welcome) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!unicorn.it.wsu.edu!davec From: David Smith Cochrane Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ZIP Setup Help! Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:23:18 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <69in3p$1l3$1@sf1.usaw.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: unicorn.it.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: davec@unicorn.it.wsu.edu To: Timothy Chong In-Reply-To: <69in3p$1l3$1@sf1.usaw.bah.com> Hi, I am about to buy a turbo color with 3.3 on it. What do I need to hook up a ZIP drive to it? Cables, software etc. are my main concerns at the moment, but any advece on set up would be nice too!! Thanks for any help Dave #################################################################### From:#################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!online.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!calwebnntp!news.eli.net!news.caldera.com!inquo!news From: "Matthew" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Follow up: Re: ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 20 Jan 1998 06:10:18 GMT Organization: KMF, Inc. Lines: 6 Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bd2569$33b90840$895417d0@kimball> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.23.84.137 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Two thumbs way up to: Gary Finley, Tom Hageman, and Lee Altenberg. All of your hints/suggestions have provided me a healthy, "fsck-less" when rebooting NSFIP system. Best of regards, ...m #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!209.89.75.15!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <364884494823@digifix.com> Date: 18 Jan 1998 04:58:51 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <15507885099622@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:92935 comp.sys.next.announce:4541 comp.sys.next.hardware:32029 comp.sys.next.software:32213 comp.sys.next.misc:27465 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29524 comp.sys.next.bugs:4731 comp.sys.next.programmer:27406 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!newshost.pe.utexas.edu!nextdown.pe.utexas.edu!paulus From: paulus@nextdown.pe.utexas.edu (Paulus Adisoemarta) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: 17 Jan 1998 18:42:05 GMT Organization: Petroleum Engineering Dept, U of Texas, Austin Lines: 15 Message-ID: <69qu1t$qjb$1@socony.pe.utexas.edu> References: <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nextdown.pe.utexas.edu In article <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com>, Timothy J. Luoma <> wrote: > >Informal survey: > > I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were >made by NeXT inc. I do, with 3 spare ODrives as a precaution. TTFN, Paulus 't ever power down correctly...ouch. Or restart as it should...ouch too. This causes my unfortunate system a rather unpleasant fsck everytime it is either restarted or rebooted. What setting should I be looking to tweak? Conflicts? Any experiences w/ this board on NSFIP, specifically for 3.3 would be greatly appreciated. FYI, I have a pentium 166MMX, SCSI I/O (adaptec 2940), 80MbRAM....oh, and the ELSA board is the 4Mb VRAM Winner 2000 Pro-X. Thanks in advance for your time and suggestions. Regards, ...matthew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.acns.nwu.edu!news.cc.uic.edu!not-for-mail From: "Bruce L. Lambert, Ph.D." Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Tape drives for NS3.2 Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:34:09 -0600 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago Lines: 15 Message-ID: <34BFC424.BFE194A1@uic.edu> Reply-To: lambertb@uic.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: doc.pmad.uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Can anymone tell me what tape drives (or newer removables, Jaz, Zip, Syjet, etc.) are copatible with my NeXTstation running NS3.2, soon to be NS3.3? Many thanks. -- Bruce L. Lambert Department of Pharmacy Administration University of Illinois at Chicago Phone: (312) 996-2411 Fax: (312) 996-3272 email: lambertb@uic.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: 19 Jan 1998 17:14:08 GMT Organization: none Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6a01l0$r5t$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: robert@amo.mit.edu In <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> Robert Lutwak wrote: > p.s. I tried to send this via private E-mail, but you've cleverly removed > all signs of a return address on your post. > I guess that thwarts the spammers. Yup, it does.... However, my address is in my .sig... if you are using RadicalNews, check down the bottom. I did receive your email, but had not had a chance to respond yet. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.Stanford.EDU!nntp.Stanford.EDU!not-for-mail From: Tomoaki Ikeda Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does Matrox Mystique 220 work with NS3.3? Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:30:57 -0800 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <34BFDFA1.1FEF@leland.Stanford.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo5.stanford.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; U; HP-UX B.10.20 9000/712) I am getting Matrox Mystique 220 for the video card of my PC and will run it with NeXT step 3.3. They say Mystique 220 is supported by a beta driver but I am kind of worrying if it will work. Does anybody use Mystique 220 for NS3.3 and have any trouble? Thank you for your help. ------------------------------------- IKEDA, Tomoaki Dept. of Aeronautics & Astronautics Stanford University e-mail: ikedat@leland.stanford.edu ------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!hatch.mbnet.mb.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!tribune.usask.ca!rover.ucs.ualberta.ca!not-for-mail From: gfin@psych.ualberta.ca.nospam Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 19 Jan 1998 16:35:42 GMT Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada Lines: 22 Message-ID: <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> NNTP-Posting-Host: chrome.psych.ualberta.ca X-Trace: pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca 885227742 15530 (None) 129.128.52.38 X-Complaints-To: usenet@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca In-Reply-To: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> X-Newsreader: NewsFlash [$Revision: 2.230 $] NF-S-00020 On 01/17/98, "Matthew" wrote: >To ELSA Winner 2000 Pro-X video board owners: > >Okay, ELSA makes a great video card.... >But why can't I power off or restart my Intel box w/out the machine >hanging? Specifically, when powering off or restarting the machine > the screen goes black. Doesn't ever power down correctly...ouch. Sounds like the well-known Triton/S3 bug. Try using the -v option to the boot command to avoid the graphics bootup screen. Then run prefs as root, go to expert mode in video prefs and change the "Boot Graphics" line from "Yes" to "No". FYI, I've been unsing a 2000 Pro-X for 2 or 3 years now, and with the above hack, it has never given me any trouble. -- ---------------------------------------------- Gary Finley, Psychology Dept. Univ. of Alberta Network manager, Web manager, and postmaster. (403) 492-2834 gfin@psych.ualberta.ca http://web.psych.ualberta.ca/staff_bios/gary.finley.htmld/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!unicorn.it.wsu.edu!davec From: David Smith Cochrane Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Color Moniter in Megapixel Case Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:39:58 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 5 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: unicorn.it.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: davec@unicorn.it.wsu.edu Hi all, I am about to buy a color turbo slab with the color moniter in the mono case, angled stand and everything! Anyone else seen one of these? I plan to put a photo of it on my website for doubting thomases... Dave #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: gp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP Memory Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 08:15:07 +0000 Organization: matthewsgroup Lines: 8 Message-ID: <34C45D09.8FD0478A@matthewsgroup.com> Reply-To: gp@matthewsgroup.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 1307@207.32.75.101 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Does anyone have the specifications for the DSP daughterboard slot on the NeXT?? I know it's a 68-pin slot, but that's as far as I've gotten, and the FAQs don't seem to cover it. Thanks in advance - Royce #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news-han1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!jupiter.NIC.DTAG.DE!news.online.de!online.de!thomas From: tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 17:07:16 GMT Organization: Smoke'n Joy - The first virtual crematory Lines: 24 Message-ID: <1998Jan17.170716.524@online.de> References: <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p001205.hh.dip.t-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) X-No-Archive: yes In <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > Informal survey: > > I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were > made by NeXT inc. > > This is partly out of curiosity and partly out of having a question to ask > anyone who is. > I still use my OD. It stopped working about a year ago, but then I got another broken OD drive, exchanged some parts and got it working again. Use it mainly for backups. Just in case I also have a TRAVAN tape on my linux box which does the serious backups in our household-net (3 machines: Next, Linux, Win ), but the OD is so convenient and I like that noise when the head is moving around ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!newshub.ccs.yorku.ca!not-for-mail From: Michael Friendly Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT display in permanent screen-saver mode Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:26:04 -0500 Organization: York University Lines: 17 Message-ID: <34C4B3FC.5FF0@yorku.ca> Reply-To: friendly@yorku.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: fac03.psych.yorku.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) I came in and found that my NeXTcolor display would not respond to any keyboard/mouse input. I've tried replacing the monitor cable, rebooting, power off/on, etc. (This happened once before and power off/on set it right.) Everything else is working. I hear all the usual speaker sounds, etc. Maybe the display has gone bad, but if there's any way to tell, or any other possibilities to try, I'd appreciate knowing. thx, -- Michael Friendly friendly@yorku.ca York University http://www.math.yorku.ca/SCS/friendly.html Psychology Department 4700 Keele Street Tel: (416) 736-5115 x66249 Toronto, Ontario, M3J 1P3 Fax: (416) 736-5814 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: 17 Jan 1998 07:19:48 GMT Organization: none Lines: 17 Message-ID: <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Informal survey: I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were made by NeXT inc. This is partly out of curiosity and partly out of having a question to ask anyone who is. TjL, NeXT junkie and insomniac -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.117.161.1!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!boulder!pb From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help with connecting CD-ROM drive to slab Date: 20 Jan 1998 17:35:53 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6a2n9p$g3a@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.colorado.edu NNTP-Posting-User: pb I am trying to connect an older CD-ROM drive to my slab, and am having trouble. I wonder if anyone can tell me if it's the drive, or something that I am doing wrong. Here is the situation: Toshiba TXM3401E1 drive, with the proper cable, with a terminator conneted to the 2nd SCSI I/O port on the drive. When I verbose boot, I see that the device is recognized (as a Toshiba TXM3401 drive), with the SCSI ID I set (6, in case you wonder), and it gets assigned sd 1. However, I then get the message "UNIT ATTENTION" (I think), and the drive never comes ready. The CD-ROM drive's behavior is as follows: I insert a CD-ROM, the drive select light flashes on and of for a few seconds, and then it ejects the CD-ROM. The only 2 things I can think of are, (1) Something in the drive needs cleaning (how do I do that?); or (2) something in the drive is broken. I would be greatful for any information or suggestions. Thanks in advance. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cs.utexas.edu!news.unt.edu!jove1!vram From: vram@jove1.acs.unt.edu (Vijay Narayan Ramasubramanian) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SB64AWE Date: 18 Jan 1998 19:28:32 GMT Organization: University of North Texas Lines: 17 Message-ID: <69tl50$rsd@hermes.acs.unt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: jove.acs.unt.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] >(Vibra16x) in 16 bit mode. The driver force me to use DMA 5, 7, or 9 as >16 bit port, and the card only allow 0,1, or 3 (for the first as for the >second DMA channel). I read this from PnPDump. Any setting i use drive to >either the driver rejecting the setting at boot or if accepted the card >is soundless. Nevertheless the sound level is still effective (for >noise). >I already asked about it in a previous post, but i'm still there.) Are you sure you're using a SB16PnP driver for the card? Even an AWExx is still SB16PnP compatable (minus the MIDI support). Is your machine using DMAs 0,1,3? I found leaving the card @ DMA 1 & 5 works fine. If it is a PnP card then usage of DMAs 0-5 & IRQs 5-11 shouldn't be a problem. You might also want to try removing and reinstalling the driver. Vijay Ram. nospam@@@@@@@@@@@vram@jove.acs.unt.edu #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!news From: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Subject: Kinesis Ergo Keyboards and 4.2 X-Nntp-Posting-Host: pierce-33.rh.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu (Jonathan B. Leffert) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:41:22 GMT Lines: 4 Does anyone have any experience with the Kinesis Ergo Keyboards and OpenStep Mach 4.2 compatibility? Will they work? Jonathan #################################################################### Message-ID: <34C5ED72.ACF48345@novonyx.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 05:43:30 -0700 From: Jesse Hall Reply-To: jesse@novonyx.com Organization: Novonyx, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Station/Cube serial port speed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 91-9.dialup.itsnet.com Lines: 17 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-regensburg.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!news.itsnet.com!91-9.dialup.itsnet.com Hello -- I've have the opportunity to purchase a NeXT Cube or Turbo Station. I'm wondering if it is possible to use one of these machines as a router to my ISP, connecting through a modem. I've heard that the NeXT serial ports are too slow for this purpose, but I'm not sure how reliable that is. How fast will they go? Is there any difference between the Cube and the Station? Are there any other issues I should be aware of before trying this? If this is answered in a FAQ somewhere, please point me in the right direction. Thank you, Jesse Hall sdh-jdh@srv.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.uni-erlangen.de!not-for-mail From: "Tian" Newsgroups: maus.sys.next,de.comp.sys.next,ger.ct,comp.next.misc,maus.sys.next,comp.sys.next.hardware,maus.hardware Subject: NeXTcube: keyboard, mouse and monitor Date: 21 Jan 98 18:45:06 +0100 Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen, Germany Lines: 30 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: sz1657.dialin.rrze.uni-erlangen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/enriched; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Cyberdog/2.0 X-News-Servers: news.uni-erlangen.de X-Newsgroups-TO: nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/maus.sys.next, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/de.comp.sys.next, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/ger.ct, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/comp.next.misc, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/maus.sys.next, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/comp.sys.next.hardware, nntp://news.uni-erlangen.de/maus.hardware X-Fontfamily: Geneva X-Fontsize: 12 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de maus.sys.next:250 de.comp.sys.next:15956 ger.ct:1291 comp.next.misc:64 comp.sys.next.hardware:32045 maus.hardware:57274 Hallo, ich habe einen blanken NeXT cube und w=FCrde gerne wissen was f=FCr ein Monitor daran angeschlossen werden kann/mu=DF? So viel ich wei=DF, ist eine zus=E4tzliche Farbmonitorkarte instaliert (mit seltsamen Anschlu=DF). Mir fehlt auch Maus und Tastatur - Wie und welche kann ich wo anschliessen? Gibt es Adapter um Standartbauteile zu nutzen? Im voraus: Danke GenevaHi, i have a NeXT cube without monitor, keyboard and mouse. I want to know if there is a possibility to use a IBM- or Mac-kombatible monitor, keyboard and mouse. Or what else i could use to reaktivate the NeXT cube. Thanks Sebastian Krau=DF : sebastian.krauss@stud.uni-erlangen.de #################################################################### Message-ID: <34C5FC85.659C5914@honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:47:49 +0100 From: "M. Strubel" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.29 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP port pinout on black next Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: x11pc08.physik.uni-konstanz.de Organization: University of Constance, Germany Lines: 10 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-konstanz.de!x11pc08.physik.uni-konstanz.de Hi, Does anyone know if there is docu on the net about the DSP port of the black NeXTs ? I've just got one of those black pizzaboxes, but without documentation and am wondering, if it would possible to tinker a SP/DIF interface for that hardware. Any hints ? Thanks in advance, Strubi #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!209.98.98.32!chippy.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: cejensen@bitstream.net (Chris Jensen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: DSP port pinout on black next Date: 22 Jan 1998 01:31:24 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 32 Message-ID: <6a67hc$ed0$1@maryj.bitstream.net> References: <34C5FC85.659C5914@honk.physik.uni-konstanz.de> Reply-To: cejensen@bitstream.net NNTP-Posting-Host: port101.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) "M. Strubel" wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone know if there is docu on the net about the DSP port of the >black NeXTs ? I've just got one of those black pizzaboxes, but without >documentation and am wondering, if it would possible to tinker a SP/DIF >interface for that hardware. Any hints ? The pinouts (from an old book on the cubes; I assume the pins are the same on the stations) are: 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 1 Serial clock signal (synchronous) 2 Serial receive data (synch.) 3 Serial transmit data (synch.) 4 Serial clock signal (asynchronous) 5 Receive data (asynch.) 6 Transmit data (asynch.) 7 +12v 8 -12v 9 gnd 10 gnd 11 gnd 12 serial control pin 2 13 ser. ctl pin 1 14 reserved 15 gnd --Chris cejensen @ bitstream. net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!zdc!szdc!super.zippo.com!newsp.zippo.com!scott From: scott@spacepirates.com (Scott W. Douglass) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Best Video Card for NSFIP 3.3 and later? Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 08:53:28 -0500 Organization: Spacepirates Lines: 21 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-280.newsdawg.com X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.4b1 I'm building a new system and am at the point where I'm trying to select a PCI video card (non-AGP). The system will run Win95 (for Direct3D/OpenGL games), WinNT 4 (for 2D/3D graphics apps, and business apps), NeXTStep 3.3 (or Rhapsody when I can get it), and Red Hat Linux. My current system is booting all these OS's and is using a Matrox Millenium 4MB (about 3 years old at this point). Everything works great with the Millenium, however I've noticed in various reviews, columns, and websites that Matrox no longer has the fastest display cards. I've read in this newsgroup over the years that ELSA makes great video cards with NeXTstep drivers, is that still the case? I'm most interested in something much higher-end than the Millenium. A Gloria-L would be cool! Any advice on which video display card offers the highest performance, and works with NeXTstep would be greatly appreciated. -- Scott #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Nitro Station Message-ID: <885394942.816071@globe.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: globe.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <34C564F9.5C09@wsunix.wsu.edu> Cache-Post-Path: globe.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:02:39 GMT Lines: 14 In article <34C564F9.5C09@wsunix.wsu.edu>, Dave wrote: >Hi all... >Does anyone know anything about this machine? Apparently it was only >prototyped and a few exist...I am curious though!! > Basically a Turbo slab (either mono or colour would work) with a CPU daughterboard containing a 40MHz '040 and some nifty custom cache. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed3.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp.inc.net!news.inc.net!NewsWatcher!user From: jconway@macprosinc.com (Jim Conway) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Sun GDM-1962B monitor on Mac Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:56:41 -0600 Organization: MacPros Lines: 15 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc14.macprosinc.com X-Newsreader: Value-Added NewsWatcher 2.12d0+ Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:25836 comp.sys.next.hardware:32050 I have a Sun GDM-1962B monitor from 1992. Is there a way (cable/converter/graphics card) for me to use this on one of my Mac's? How about a Windows PC? I have several new, modern Macs with 8 meg video cards to choose from. My E-mail address is accurate - feel free to directly E-mail me any info you have. Thanks Jim Conway I apologize for the cross-post to next.hardware but you guys seem to have a lot of multi-platform knowledge. spank me as necessary. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!online.no!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!news.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!not-for-mail From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 20 Jan 1998 22:43:45 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Lines: 28 Message-ID: <6a3ue1$273@plains.NoDak.edu> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu In article <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, wrote: >On 01/17/98, "Matthew" wrote: >>To ELSA Winner 2000 Pro-X video board owners: >> >>Okay, ELSA makes a great video card.... >>But why can't I power off or restart my Intel box w/out the machine >>hanging? Specifically, when powering off or restarting the machine >> the screen goes black. Doesn't ever power down correctly...ouch. > >Sounds like the well-known Triton/S3 bug. Try using the -v option to >the boot command to avoid the graphics bootup screen. Then run prefs >as root, go to expert mode in video prefs and change the "Boot >Graphics" line from "Yes" to "No". >FYI, I've been unsing a 2000 Pro-X for 2 or 3 years now, and with the >above hack, it has never given me any trouble. as he mentioned above, this also happens during shutdown. i noticed that it happens pretty sporadically then, but it does happen. i think in expert mode of Configure.app you can add "Shutdown Graphics" with the value No and that'll put it into verbose shutdown.. andy -- ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu ----------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More follow up -- ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 21 Jan 1998 07:53:49 GMT Organization: none Lines: 33 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6a49id$38l$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <6a3ue1$273@plains.NoDak.edu> <01bd2634$120c6900$7d5417d0@kimball> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: kmf@n1.net % cat /private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Instance0.table "Kernel Flags" = ""; "Boot Graphics" = "No"; "Shutdown Graphics" = "No"; "Version" = "4.00"; "Active Drivers" = "PS2Mouse ParallelPort NEXTIME_Sound PortServer SoundBlaster16 DECchip21040NetworkDriver MatroxMGA2064WDisplayDriver Intel82595NetworkDriver"; "APM" = "Yes"; "Instance" = "0"; "Install Mode" = "No"; "Kernel" = "mach_kernel"; "Language" = "English"; "Boot Drivers" = "Adaptec2940SCSIDriver ISASerialPort Floppy PS2Keyboard PCMCIABus PCIBus EISABus EIDE"; The 'Boot Graphics' is comparable to doing '-v' at the boot prompt (well... almost.... -v gives you slightly more information when you are at the black screen... once it changes to the white screen it is the same) TjL ps -- shutdown graphics is especially helpful if you have several drives which need to be unmounted at reboot/powerdown. -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.128.130.6!news.avicom.net!not-for-mail From: Joe McCarthy Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware.video,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Sun GDM-1962B monitor on Mac Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:09:58 -0700 Organization: Software Integrators Inc, Lines: 33 Message-ID: <34C67236.22C4@si87.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.128.130.140 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; I) To: Jim Conway Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.mac.hardware.video:25838 comp.sys.next.hardware:32054 Jim Conway wrote: > > I have a Sun GDM-1962B monitor from 1992. Is there a way > (cable/converter/graphics card) for me to use this on one of my Mac's? How > about a Windows PC? > > I have several new, modern Macs with 8 meg video cards to choose from. > > My E-mail address is accurate - feel free to directly E-mail me any info > you have. > > Thanks > > Jim Conway > > I apologize for the cross-post to next.hardware but you guys seem to have > a lot of multi-platform knowledge. spank me as necessary. For the MAC, we sell an adapter and cable which will work. For the PC, you will have to buy our Gemini P1 card. The P1 can drive any color workstation monitor from a PC. Joe ****************************************************************** * Joe McCarthy | Toll free: 800-547-2349 * * Software Integrators Inc. | Phone: 406-586-4987 * * 51 Evergreen Drive | Fax: 406-586-9145 * * Suite A | BBS: 406-586-9610 * * Bozeman, MT 59715 | Email: mccarthy@si87.com * ****************************************************************** * WEB PAGE -> http://www.si87.com * ****************************************************************** #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!newsfeed2.uk.ibm.net!ibm.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!masternews.telia.net!newspost.telia.com!thelma.netpower.no!not-for-mail From: "Tysvær pedsenter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware advice (CPU/Mainboard) SUMMARY Date: 21 Jan 1998 20:04:48 GMT Organization: Tysvær kommune elevdatamaskin Lines: 23 Message-ID: <01bd251d$55ff0ea0$ae0accc3@wingate.robin.no> Reply-To: edmtl@edb.uib.no NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.204.10.174 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Thanks for all the great responses I got to my question about upgrading my Intel box to something more modern (currently P100, Intel Endeavor, Triton FX chipset, 64MB core). Many are using AMD K6 and with excellent result. Many are using 83 and 75MHz buss speed with no problem. Common popular boards from Abit, Aopen and Asus are all in use, with the TX chipset. Two things I didn' ask (but I hope work as I'm ordering the parts tomorrow...) were if SDRAM works (is it the OS or simply the Hardware that has to support it?) and if anyone uses a non-Intel chipset (like SIS or VIA). The reason I ask is because the FIC-2007 & 2012 look like excellent boards, have 1MB cache and support caching of up to 512MB system memory. TX chipset only caches 64MB, over that and one gets a performance penalty. I currently have 4x16MB which I'm selling with my board and CPU and plan to get 1x64MB SDRAM, AMD K6 233 and either an ABIT or FIC mainboard - that depends on what response I get here... Kind regards & happy NeXTStepping, Thor -- NeXTSTeP, Linux, Wi...unrecoverable error, system halted. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!194.72.7.126!btnet-peer!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!bcarh8ab.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcarh189.bnr.ca!nott!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: NeXT Station/Cube serial port speed Message-ID: <885418037.943624@globe.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca NNTP-Posting-Host: globe.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <34C5ED72.ACF48345@novonyx.com> Cache-Post-Path: globe.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:27:35 GMT Lines: 29 In article <34C5ED72.ACF48345@novonyx.com>, Jesse Hall wrote: >Hello -- > >I've have the opportunity to purchase a NeXT Cube or Turbo Station. I'm >wondering if it is possible to use one of these machines as a router to my >ISP, connecting through a modem. Works fine for me. >I've heard that the NeXT serial ports are too >slow for this purpose, but I'm not sure how reliable that is. How fast will >they go? They work reliably at 38400 and with some hiccups (and general system slowness while transferring data) at 57600. This is on non-Turbo hardware; the 33MHz boxes may do better at 57600. >Is there any difference between the Cube and the Station? Are there >any other issues I should be aware of before trying this? > No difference, although an '030 cube will likely max out at 9600 IIRC. -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!news.muc.de!eisbaer.bb.bawue.de!eskimo.bb.bawue.de!root From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium and picture quality Date: 21 Jan 1998 17:25:28 GMT Organization: "private site" Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6a5b28$t7@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> References: <6a2uqj$8i@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> <6a4kd5$f882@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> Reply-To: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.197.13.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: phy070@spo109 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32057 comp.sys.next.software:32226 H.-R. Oberhage wrote: > Go to Configure.app, the video-driver section, then the screen settings > selecition and try different (slower?) refresh rates. With the Millenium > Maybe it's the same here, too, especially if the (max.) RAMDAC refresh > isn't determined properly. I tried everything from 60 Hz up to 90 with no luck. That doesn't seem to be the problem. -- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome #################################################################### Message-ID: <34C60FB1.1B38@lvl.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:09:37 +0000 From: Erik Salmonson Reply-To: esalmonson@lvl.com Organization: LVL Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Macintosh; I; 68K) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin Subject: Non-booting slab??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: caprice.physik.unizh.ch Lines: 16 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-zh.switch.ch!rzunews1.unizh.ch!caprice.physik.unizh.ch Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.misc:27478 comp.sys.next.hardware:32058 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29554 Got a problem. I have a mono slab that does not want to finish booting up. I had tried to edit the netinfo so that I could use it on my work network. Now in the process of booting up I get a message that says: lookupd [103]: NetInfo timeout connecting to local domain, sleeping and then is sits there waiting for the next command. I do not know this command. Is there a command to wake it back up? or skip the network hookup? or boot in a mode that would allow me to get back at that netinfo file and undo what I have already done? Any help would be great. Please answer via email as my access to usenet is sketchy at best. thanks.... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news.bingo.baynet.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!129.174.1.8!portal.gmu.edu!list!soonam From: soonam@list.gmu.edu (Soonam Kahng) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: driver for NeoMagic video ? Date: 22 Jan 1998 03:52:40 GMT Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax,VA Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6a6fq8$j93@portal.gmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: list.gmu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Many notbooks are using "Neomagic" chipset for video. Is there video driver of openstep or nextstep for this chipset ? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.207.0.25!nntp.texas.net!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: "Clemmensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tape backup w/ Wangtek 6130 on a M68K Date: 22 Jan 1998 08:34:16 GMT Organization: ObjectWare, Inc. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <01bd2710$ad12eaa0$3c02cfcf@armaga.texas.net> References: <34C788B8.6021@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mnet01-60.austin.texas.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 > I have a Nextstation Turbo, running Mach 3.0, and I'm trying to use an > old external Wangtek 6130 SCSI DAT drive for backups. At boot time, the > Wangtek is recognized. However, when I try to issue the command "dump" > (with a tape in the drive), I get the error message, > > "DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Cannot open tape. Do you want to retry the > open?" Do you remember to use the /dev/rst0 device? Also if you are running 3.0 you may need to set the driver to I believe its fixed length records. Try and use: tar cvf /dev/rst0 -- Geert B. Clemmensen Frontline Software, Inc. www.frontline-software.dk gclem@frontline-software.dk #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: hottest.pepper@this.net (habanero) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware Pictures Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:01:42 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 15 Message-ID: <34c82fbe.31231728@news.mindspring.com> References: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: accs-as802-dp07.snfc.grid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 22 Jan 1998 17:51:24 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:41:29 +0000, Bob Dewhirst wrote: >Hi, > >This may sound like an odd request; I'm looking for some shots of NeXT >Cubes and Slabs. Does anyone know a site I could visit to have a look? > >Thanks, >Bob Dewhirst Hi Bob, ftp over to the NeXT site, I think it's ftp.next.com Also the peak site has some shots. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!chronicle.adobe.com!enquirer.corp.adobe.com!missinglynx.adobe.com!not-for-mail From: jrd@adobe.com (James Drew) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Use a NeXT monitor with a Mac? Date: 21 Jan 1998 16:20:08 -0800 Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View Lines: 31 Message-ID: <6a63bo$2f2@missinglynx.adobe.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: missinglynx.corp.adobe.com (I first asked this a couple years ago, to no avail at the time.) Does anyone know if there's a way I can utilize my currently dormant megapixel display monitor as the head for a Mac? I understand that the megapixel beast is not directly Mac or PC compatible. (Was it compatible for the likes of Sun?) It's been suggested that a custom cable might need to be bought, or even developed from scratch. If so, who could be approached to do such a task? (Given the cost of the megapixel back in 1991 and the cost of a new monitor of similar capability, it's apt to be quite cost effective even if someone has to be paid for a one-off of such a cable, I think.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Drew jrd@adobe.com {Opinions: Mine != Adobe's} B3(e)h+ t e cd s k g+(p) rv q p Secretary, IAGLCWDC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Meestair Leenks?" she said. "I am Ani Lucard. May I come in?" Sigh. I really should learn to close up before sundown; I could avoid this type of client "Certainly, Ms. Lucard." I ushered her to a chair. "A relation of Count Alucard of Romania, I presume?" "Yes, my great uncle. He was murdered, you know. And now they are after me, I fear." "Is this some vendetta against your family?" "No, rather against my...," she paused, searching for a word. "My... orientation. You see, I never date... men." Ah, a lesbian vampire. -- Marc Lynx, "Tooth and Nail" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Slow copy speeds from CD-ROM (was Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT?) Date: 22 Jan 1998 00:55:01 GMT Organization: none Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6a65d5$38l$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> <6a5faq$1bli$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In <6a5faq$1bli$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > The OD has a pretty good data throughput but lowsy seek time. You're best off > first taring up your files on the hard disk (and maybe compressing too) and > then sending the whole file over to the OD. Backup/restore using the OD is > pretty easy and fast if you do this. But never try to copy of a lot of > individual files, or for that matter start multiple copy operations > concurrently - it'll take a _lot_ longer. Curious. I was trying to copy a ton of small files from a CD-ROM (old Usenet news archives actually) and it took over 8 hours on my 4x CD-ROM and I killed it. Would the same be true of the CD that if I piped them through tar it would go a lot faster? What flags would you use ? Thanks TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!ix.netcom.com!news From: Sandra Almeida Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: tape backup w/ Wangtek 6130 on a M68K Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:58:16 -0800 Organization: Netcom Lines: 19 Message-ID: <34C788B8.6021@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: gooeycat@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ala-ca8-28.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Wed Jan 21 9:57:30 PM PST 1998 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Hi, I have a Nextstation Turbo, running Mach 3.0, and I'm trying to use an old external Wangtek 6130 SCSI DAT drive for backups. At boot time, the Wangtek is recognized. However, when I try to issue the command "dump" (with a tape in the drive), I get the error message, "DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Cannot open tape. Do you want to retry the open?" Before I get this error message, I can see that the light flickers on on the DAT, so something is happening. Does anyone know why this is happening and how I can fix it? Or does anyone know of any diagnostics software that I can use to probe the device? Any help is greatly appreciated, T #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh3d0.bnr.ca!despams.ocunix.on.ca!cyberspam!not-for-mail Date: 22 Jan 1998 12:17:08 EST X-Original-Path: ...!cs.utexas.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-xfer.netaxs.com!korova.insync.net!uunet!in3.uu.net!not-for-mail X-Original-From: pc88 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware X-Original-Subject: Share modem, ISDN and cable modem 11667 X-Original-Date: 22 Jan 1998 08:18:40 GMT Message-ID: Control: cancel <6a6vd0$8t6$1851@news0-alterdial.uu.net> X-No-Archive: Yes From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Sender: pc88 Subject: cmsg cancel <6a6vd0$8t6$1851@news0-alterdial.uu.net> Approved: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Cancelled-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 3 EMP/ECP (aka SPAM) cancelled by clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce, report 19980122.01 for further details #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.space.net!news.muc.de!eisbaer.bb.bawue.de!eskimo.bb.bawue.de!root From: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de (Juergen Grieb) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Asus P2L97-S and which grafics card? Date: 22 Jan 1998 17:50:09 GMT Organization: "private site" Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6a80sh$1i3@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> Reply-To: juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.197.13.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) The problem I reportet some days ago about having a poor picture from my Matrox Millennium II defenitly relates to incompatability between my Asus board with onboard-SCSI and the Matrox card. I have here a Matrox Mystique with the same effect. An old ATI card doesn't show that problem at all. So I'd like to know which newer cards (4MB) from ATI or Alsa are supported by Next and run 1600x1200 with 16bit and at least 75Hz. And if there is anybody out there with the asus P2L97-S please let me know which card you use and if you have any problems with it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. -- Juergen _______________________________________________________________________ Juergen Grieb ** juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de ** NeXTMail/Mime welcome #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!uniol!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!inquo!erinet.com!news From: "Keven Kronenberg" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Info on 1st NeXT cube? Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:56:04 -0500 Organization: EriNet Online 937 436-1700 (Voice) Lines: 4 Message-ID: <6a8tpp$5t6@eri.erinet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: dlp388.middle.eri.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Anyone have the specs and the release date on the first NeXT cube? Any help would be greatly appreciated. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.156.128.20!news1.best.com!nntp2.ba.best.com!not-for-mail From: Ryan Watkins Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware Pictures Date: 22 Jan 1998 12:50:06 -0800 Organization: vamp.org Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: vamp.oz.net X-Trace: 885502207 14317 vamp 206.86.0.12 X-Url: http://www.vamp.org/vamp.html X-Newsreader: Quassia Gnus v0.22/XEmacs 20.3 - "Vatican City" Bob Dewhirst writes: > This may sound like an odd request; I'm looking for some shots of NeXT > Cubes and Slabs. Does anyone know a site I could visit to have a look? There are a bunch of images in some old brochures at http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html -- Ryan Watkins "Never attribute to malice vamp@vamp.org that which can be adequately explained http://www.vamp.org/ by stupidity." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!pumpkin.pangea.ca!news.pangea.ca!not-for-mail From: siren@surf.pangea.ca (Betty Siren) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT display in permanent screen-saver mode Date: 22 Jan 1998 22:34:39 -0600 Organization: Pangea.CA, Inc. Lines: 6 Message-ID: <6a96kv$j30@surf.pangea.ca> References: <34C4B3FC.5FF0@yorku.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: surf.pangea.ca X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) I saw a machine with an improperly seated 72 pin SIMM that caused a black screen. The user had already tried getting a replacement monitor from the vendor :-) ... Richard Tilley #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cosy.sbg.ac.at!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newspump.sol.net!newstank.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer,comp.sys.next.software Subject: cmsg cancel <6a89jk$d8m$1352@heliodor.xara.net> Control: cancel <6a89jk$d8m$1352@heliodor.xara.net> Date: 22 Jan 1998 20:19:02 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: underage@schoolgirls.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.itg.net.uk!usenet X-Original-Subject: Under Age Schoolgirls - keep off net X-Original-Date: 22 Jan 1998 20:19:00 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.147.13.14 X-Original-From: underage@schoolgirls.com X-CosmoTraq: K@K,3G9>=\$D5H% X-Cancel-ID: [H[J)Z.V8$D3F4SC`Q8 Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 05:14:05 +0800 From: ktchan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware advice (CPU/Mainboard) SUMMARY References: <01bd251d$55ff0ea0$ae0accc3@wingate.robin.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp00091.hk.gin.net Organization: Global Information Networks, http://news.hk.gin.net Lines: 37 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gip.net!news-tokyo.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.hk.gin.net!ppp00091.hk.gin.net Hi I have test some boards with NeXt 3.3. I finally put a wide SCSI controller instead of putting faster CPU into my Intel NeXt 3.3 machine. That imporve the performance. Regards K.T.Chan Tysvær pedsenter wrote: > Thanks for all the great responses I got to my question about upgrading my > Intel box to something more modern (currently P100, Intel Endeavor, Triton > FX chipset, 64MB core). > > Many are using AMD K6 and with excellent result. Many are using 83 and > 75MHz buss speed with no problem. Common popular boards from Abit, Aopen > and Asus are all in use, with the TX chipset. > > Two things I didn' ask (but I hope work as I'm ordering the parts > tomorrow...) were if SDRAM works (is it the OS or simply the Hardware that > has to support it?) and if anyone uses a non-Intel chipset (like SIS or > VIA). The reason I ask is because the FIC-2007 & 2012 look like excellent > boards, have 1MB cache and support caching of up to 512MB system memory. TX > chipset only caches 64MB, over that and one gets a performance penalty. I > currently have 4x16MB which I'm selling with my board and CPU and plan to > get 1x64MB SDRAM, AMD K6 233 and either an ABIT or FIC mainboard - that > depends on what response I get here... > > Kind regards & happy NeXTStepping, > Thor > -- > NeXTSTeP, Linux, Wi...unrecoverable error, system halted. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!newshost.zeneca.co.uk!usenet From: Bob Dewhirst Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardware Pictures Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:41:29 +0000 Organization: zeneca.co.uk Lines: 11 Message-ID: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 156.71.146.193 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Hi, This may sound like an odd request; I'm looking for some shots of NeXT Cubes and Slabs. Does anyone know a site I could visit to have a look? Thanks, Bob Dewhirst -- bob@gaudi.demon.co.uk bob.dewhirst@alderley.zeneca.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!not-for-mail From: Chuck Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Slow copy speeds from CD-ROM (was Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT?) Date: 22 Jan 1998 14:34:20 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6a7ldc$fhq$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> <6a5faq$1bli$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> <6a65d5$38l$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.8.169 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS wrote: > Would the same be true of the CD that if I piped them through tar it would > go a lot faster? Yes. > What flags would you use ? Here are two zsh functions I use: cpr () { gnutar cf - $*[1,-2] | ( cd $*[-1] ; gnutar xfp - ) } cprv () { gnutar cf - $*[1,-2] | ( cd $*[-1] ; gnutar xfvp - ) } That should give you the idea if you prefer another shell.... -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+----------------------+-------------------- "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsgate.tandem.com!uunet!in4.uu.net!news.bah.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM-chongt@bah.com (Timothy Chong) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Compaq ProLinea 4/33 Date: 22 Jan 1998 14:58:39 GMT Organization: Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6a7mqv$50d$1@news.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: sing-201-88.apj.bah.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.bah.com 885481119 5133 (None) 128.229.201.88 X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bah.com X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Hi all, There's a Compaq Prolinea 4/33 at office... can someone tell me what kinda speed/performace can I expect from this machine if it's 32M RAM, Built-in video and OS4.2 compared to my TurboColor (96/2G OS4.2) It's such a waste of space if this machine is sitting there doing nothing... How about FreeBSD/386 on it? Can someone give me some idea? Tim -- My return address is FAKE-to mail me, pls remove everything before chongt. Views within this message may not be those of Booz Allen & Hamilton, Inc. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Slow copy speeds from CD-ROM (was Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT?) Date: 22 Jan 1998 21:40:35 GMT Organization: none Lines: 23 Message-ID: <6a8ecj$pa7$7@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <69vt3i$l98$1@winter.news.erols.com> <6a5faq$1bli$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> <6a65d5$38l$6@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <6a7ldc$fhq$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: cswiger@blacksmith.com In <6a7ldc$fhq$2@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> Chuck Swiger wrote: > Here are two zsh functions I use: > > cpr () { gnutar cf - $*[1,-2] | ( cd $*[-1] ; gnutar xfp - ) } > cprv () { gnutar cf - $*[1,-2] | ( cd $*[-1] ; gnutar xfvp - ) } > > That should give you the idea if you prefer another shell.... Heck no! In my "spare" time I help maintain http://www.peak.org/zsh/ :-) Carl Edman converted me to zsh a few years ago from tcsh and I still wonder why it took me so long to let it go.... TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!gaudi.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Bob" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware Pictures Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:49:49 +0000 Organization: CSI Message-ID: <885509189.26390.0.nnrp-11.9e982234@news.demon.co.uk> References: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gaudi.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gaudi.demon.co.uk [158.152.34.52] X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (195) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Thanks! Thats exactly what I was looking for. ---------- In article , Ryan Watkins wrote: >Bob Dewhirst writes: > >> This may sound like an odd request; I'm looking for some shots of NeXT >> Cubes and Slabs. Does anyone know a site I could visit to have a look? > >There are a bunch of images in some old brochures at > > http://iris.dissvcs.uga.edu/~archive/NeXT/NeXT.html > > >-- >Ryan Watkins "Never attribute to malice > vamp@vamp.org that which can be adequately explained >http://www.vamp.org/ by stupidity." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!gaudi.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Bob" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware Pictures Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 23:02:44 +0000 Organization: CSI Message-ID: <885509963.26799.0.nnrp-11.9e982234@news.demon.co.uk> References: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> <34c82fbe.31231728@news.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: gaudi.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: gaudi.demon.co.uk [158.152.34.52] X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0c (195) Mime-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 31 Hello Habanero, I've been to the two sites you mention but I can't see and pictures, can you tell me where they are exactly? The NeXT ftp site is (suprisingly enough) now an Apple Enterprise Site! Thanks again. Bob. ---------- In article <34c82fbe.31231728@news.mindspring.com>, hottest.pepper@this.net (habanero) wrote: >On Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:41:29 +0000, Bob Dewhirst > wrote: > >>Hi, >> >>This may sound like an odd request; I'm looking for some shots of NeXT >>Cubes and Slabs. Does anyone know a site I could visit to have a look? >> >>Thanks, >>Bob Dewhirst > > >Hi Bob, >ftp over to the NeXT site, I think it's ftp.next.com >Also the peak site has some shots. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.seicom.net!news.navigator.de!not-for-mail From: mow@navigator.de (Markus Wenzel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: sdform and a Micropolis 8.4Gb drive (Model 1991) Date: 22 Jan 1998 22:32:56 GMT Organization: Navigator Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6a8heo$1r4$6@marsu.navigator.de> References: <6a3fc2$hu3$2@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: marsu.navigator.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32077 comp.sys.next.software:32240 In <6a3fc2$hu3$2@dropit.pgh.net> me@venetia.pgh.pa.us wrote: > I am running NS 3.3. Anyhow, when I try to run sdform on it, it says > the drive is 477 Mb. probably because that was the size of the old > inernal drive, but it is wrong. Furthermore, after about five hours, > sdform croaks. The examples from NeXTanswers, in particular the > famous #1533, shows sdform being run on /dev/rsd1a for a 2.7 Gb > Seagate drive and the following message appearing: > > device=/dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2777 MBytes > > Except for 477 instead of 2777 that is what I get. Why don't I get > 8400 MBytes? Because 3.3 is not capable of reporting the partition sizes of larger drives correctly. Don't worry, if you use "disk -i /dev/rsd1a", you will nevertheless receive four partitions of about 2 GB. If you mind, you might consider an upgrade to 4.2, which solves this confusion. -- Navigator Markus Wenzel - IT Consulting http://www.navigator.de/ #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!midway.uchicago.edu!ericchu1 From: ericchu1@midway.uchicago.edu (eric hsen-wen chu) Subject: replacement fan for nextstation...faq? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: howard-nfs.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: The University of Chicago X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:43:27 GMT Lines: 9 Hello all. Since I've moved a turbo color nextstation into the living room, the fan noise has been a little too loud. Will any $2 dollar fan replacement work? I'd like to be able to leave the machine on 24/7 and not have to deal with the noise. TIA eric chu ericchu1@harper.uchicago.edu #################################################################### From:  terry@NOSPAMgeorge.longrie.com (Terry G. Longrie) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Are you still using your OD from NeXT? Date: 19 Jan 1998 04:55:06 GMT Organization: Inc.Net http://www.inc.net Lines: 43 Message-ID: <69umba$dcl$1@news.inc.net> References: <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> <1998Jan17.170716.524@online.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: george.longrie.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!topnet.de!roka.net!news.planetc.com!news-xfer.siscom.net!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.clark.net!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!nntp.inc.net!news.inc.net!not-for-mail I still make good use of my original 68030 cube (since upgraded to an '040) which has the original 350 MB Maxtor hard disk and original 16 MB of memory. The original OD died about 5 years ago and was replaced. The "new" OD gets used on a regular basis as it is mounted to the filesystem as /usr/local where I keep all of my installed software that isn't directly from NeXT. (LocalApps, LocalLibrary, etc.) The computer itself was made in 1989 when '386's were king and, almost a decade later, it is still usefull while the rest of the world is still catching up to it's ease of use and development environment. "They can have my NeXT when they pry it from my cold, dead, fingers!" Terry tfu@bigfoot.com (Thomas F. Unke) wrote: >In <69pm2k$aee$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> Timothy J. Luoma wrote: >> >> Informal survey: >> >> I am looking for people who are still using the Optical Drives which were >> made by NeXT inc. >> >> This is partly out of curiosity and partly out of having a question to ask >> anyone who is. >> > > >I still use my OD. It stopped working about a year ago, but then I got >another broken OD drive, exchanged some parts and got it working again. Use >it mainly for backups. > >Just in case I also have a TRAVAN tape on my linux box which does the serious >backups in our household-net (3 machines: Next, Linux, Win ), but the OD is >so convenient and I like that noise when the head is moving around ;-) > > > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!news.fh-hannover.de!news.uni-stuttgart.de!ims.uni-stuttgart.de!jaehnias From: jaehnias@ims.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Jaehnigen) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: PC mouse on NeXT? Date: 23 Jan 1998 07:56:53 GMT Organization: IMS, University of Stuttgart Lines: 17 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6a9ig5$gp6$1@infosun2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.ims.uni-stuttgart.de Xcanpos: shelf.01/199802020901!0039587710 Hi there, does anybody know if one can connect a mouse designed for PC to a NeXT machine? Any ideas? Documentation? Thamks in advance! :-) cya ANDI -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mail jaehnias@studenten.ims.uni-stuttgart.de (Uni) AKA Andreas Jaehnigen @ 2:2471/1464.10 (Fidonet) Homepage http://www-stud.ims.uni-stuttgart.de/~jaehnias/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!NewsRead.Toronto.iSTAR.net!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: sane@istar.ca (sane@istar.ca) Subject: Configuring TCP/IP on Turbo Slab Organization: None X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Lines: 17 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:43:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ts25-12.tor.istar.ca NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 09:43:58 EST Hi. I have a two PC setup at home: NeXT 040 Turbo Slab running NS 3.3 Intel Pentium running NT 4.0 and Windows 95 The NT box has 2 nics: an ne2000 which is connected to coax and also connected to the next (they are on the same subnet and I can ping the other and also do ftp from one to the other.) The other nic is an SMC connected to a cable modem. I just got an eval piece of software from sygate which is supposed to allow me to bridge these to lans under '95. I'd like to set up the NeXT to run as a client but I don't see everything I need in simple network setup (ie: DNS). Any help? Shaun sane@istar.ca #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.246.194.8!newsxfer.visi.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: How to build/get long monitor cables for black Date: 23 Jan 1998 20:53:25 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6abs45$2rv@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Is there such a thing as a 10 meter color and mono monitor cables for black hardware? If not, is there a way to build them? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsgate.direct.ca!usenet From: ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZIP Setup Help! Date: 20 Jan 1998 07:28:46 GMT Organization: Canada Internet Direct, Inc. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6a1jne$nci$1@brie.direct.ca> References: <69in3p$1l3$1@sf1.usaw.bah.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: van-52-2115.direct.ca X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) David, Check out http://www.radical.com/TheHome/TheSolutions/RadicalSolution4.html for everything you should need to know. My success is a proper cable and plug & play. Darren www.bcog.org/~dreely David Smith Cochrane wrote: >Hi, I am about to buy a turbo color with 3.3 on it. What do I need to hook >up a ZIP drive to it? Cables, software etc. are my main concerns at the >moment, but any advece on set up would be nice too!! > >Thanks for any help >Dave > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.156.128.20!news1.best.com!204.188.144.17.MISMATCH!batnet!not-for-mail From: "Brian Arnold" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXTCube monitor wanted Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 22:02:39 -0800 Organization: Wombat Internet Guild Lines: 7 Message-ID: <6abvd1$o21$1@news.batnet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cox1f.batnet.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.0a (190) Howdy, My father in law is looking for a spare NeXTCube monitor (is there more than one flavor?), and I would like to know where to look for one, old or new, etc. Please respond privately, thanks, - Brian #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!fastnet!news.pgh.net!not-for-mail From: me@venetia.pgh.pa.us Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: sdform and a Micropolis 8.4Gb drive (Model 1991) Date: 21 Jan 1998 00:26:42 GMT Organization: Pittsburgh OnLine, Inc. Lines: 36 Message-ID: <6a3fc2$hu3$2@dropit.pgh.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: venetia.pgh.pa.us X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32085 comp.sys.next.software:32254 I picked up this drive from CSC because it was chaep ($295). However, it came with no docs. It turns out it is set for SCSI ID #1, which is great for a Cube internal, but I have no idea if it is terminated or even which jumpers to set to terminate it. Does anybody know the jumper settings for termination and for SCSI ID? I am running NS 3.3. Anyhow, when I try to run sdform on it, it says the drive is 477 Mb. probably because that was the size of the old inernal drive, but it is wrong. Furthermore, after about five hours, sdform croaks. The examples from NeXTanswers, in particular the famous #1533, shows sdform being run on /dev/rsd1a for a 2.7 Gb Seagate drive and the following message appearing: device=/dev/rsd1a block size = 512 capacity = 2777 MBytes Except for 477 instead of 2777 that is what I get. Why don't I get 8400 MBytes? BTW, scsimodes produces the expected results: SCSI information for /dev/rsd1a Drive type: MICROP 1991-27SC2 512 bytes per sector 171 sectors per track 27 tracks per cylinder 4476 cylinder per volume (including spare cylinders) 6 spare sectors per cylinder 81 alternate tracks per volume 17755613 usable sectors on volume I am on the verge of deciding the drive itself is defective. However, I think it may just be something I am doing wrong. If anybody can offer any useful ideas in the next 24 hours I would be most greatful. ----- Bob Peirce Venetia, PA 412-941-6883 me@venetia.pgh.pa.us [HOME (NeXT)] rbp@investor.pgh.pa.us [OFFICE] #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!mr.net!news.mr.net!bitstream.net!not-for-mail From: "Chris Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Which new HD in slab? Date: 24 Jan 1998 20:53:39 GMT Organization: Bitstream Underground Lines: 32 Message-ID: <01bd290a$091f4d20$6eed90ce@shiva> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: port110.bitstream.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Reinhard Wolf wrote in article ... > the HDs mentioned in the "mini FAQ" suitable for black hardware are > increasingly hard to find even on the used hardware markets. > Did anyone upgrade to a more "modern" HD in recent months and is able to > recommend his/her choice? I would also be interested in recommendations for 2GB SCSI disks that "Just work" with NeXT hardware. I just got burned with a Seagate ST52160N 2GB drive, which doesn't format correctly with sdform or sdformat. (If I initialize it, the 2GB drive is "formatted" to 899 MB, and I am again asked to initialize the disk every time I log out and back in). I was all ready to post to this group with all the console messages, etc., when I noticed this in the FAQ: [...]These drives don't work with NeXT hardware: FUJITSU 2684SAU, SEAGATE ST51080N, IBM IB06H8891 [...] I assume that my ST52160N is similar enough to the ST51080N that it just wont work. (Someone please correct me if I'm wrong...) Again, recommendations anyone?? Many thanks, --Chris ****************************** Chris Jensen cejensen@bitstream.net Temporarily unable to accept Non-ASCII mail... #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!inquo!news From: "Matthew" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: More follow up -- ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 21 Jan 1998 06:22:23 GMT Organization: KMF, Inc. Lines: 46 Distribution: world Message-ID: <01bd2634$120c6900$7d5417d0@kimball> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <6a3ue1$273@plains.NoDak.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.23.84.125 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 WHOA!......Andy, did I read your post correctly? You can actually add "Shutdown Graphics=No" to the expert settings of the video driver in Configure.app or the Instance0.table in System.config? I didn't even know that this option existed. Furthermore, I had no idea that there was such a thing as "verbose shutdown." Have you actually tried this on your machine or know of someone who has done it (successfully)? This has really sparked my curiosity!! Anyone else using "verbose" shutdown? Thanks for the info, Andy. ...m Andy Wang wrote in article <6a3ue1$273@plains.NoDak.edu>... > In article <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca>, > wrote: > >On 01/17/98, "Matthew" wrote: > >>To ELSA Winner 2000 Pro-X video board owners: > >> > >>Okay, ELSA makes a great video card.... > >>But why can't I power off or restart my Intel box w/out the machine > >>hanging? Specifically, when powering off or restarting the machine > >> the screen goes black. Doesn't ever power down correctly...ouch. > > > >Sounds like the well-known Triton/S3 bug. Try using the -v option to > >the boot command to avoid the graphics bootup screen. Then run prefs > >as root, go to expert mode in video prefs and change the "Boot > >Graphics" line from "Yes" to "No". > >FYI, I've been unsing a 2000 Pro-X for 2 or 3 years now, and with the > >above hack, it has never given me any trouble. > > as he mentioned above, this also happens during shutdown. i noticed > that it happens pretty sporadically then, but it does happen. > i think in expert mode of Configure.app you can add "Shutdown Graphics" > with the value No and that'll put it into verbose shutdown.. > > andy > -- > ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- > - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - > - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - > ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu ----------------------------- > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.udel.edu!not-for-mail From: Andrew Weiss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Newbie to Intel Mach needs help with SCSI Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:23:00 -0500 Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 41 Message-ID: <34C4DD74.41C6@alfred.duch.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alfred.duch.udel.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29593 comp.sys.next.bugs:4804 comp.sys.next.hardware:32088 comp.sys.next.misc:27497 comp.sys.next.software:32261 I have an AMD 586 133 X5 on a greenboard with PCI/ISA/VLB. My SCSI card is a BusLogic BT958 Ultra Wide. I keep getting BLC Timeouts when Resetting the SCSI bus. This continues over and over again, so when the machine is boot with SCSI drivers, it will never get past this stage. Anyone get this card working, or have experience with it. My SCSI devices didn't seem to make a difference when connected in various combos, or disconnected... it works in Linux, Win95, and Solaris x86. Sony CDU 926S Writer on ID5 Iomega 1GB JAZ on ID 4. Everything is terminated properly, and the card is detected properly by Configure.app IRQ 11 PCI Dev 12 Func 0 something else 0 Andrew -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A waist is a terrible thing to mind" -The United We Grow Poundage Fund "Windows OS's...Software that's missing a wheel, and has a denver boot on the others...reBOOT reBOOT reBOOT" -Me ANDREW J. WEISS Odd computer Hack, Sailing Guru, Chem nerd (thanks to Aaron), UNIX dweeb (Thanks to Pam), and taken (thanks to Shirin) -COOL he works with LINUX, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP IRIX OpenBSD 2.1 Mac68k (IIx/8/1080) Solaris 2.5.1 x86 and SParC and coming soon: Rhapsody cactopus@alfred.duch.udel.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <6aep6g$5tf$8108@heliodor.xara.net> Control: cancel <6aep6g$5tf$8108@heliodor.xara.net> Date: 25 Jan 1998 07:21:52 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: marias@usa.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.itg.net.uk!usenet X-Original-Subject: SPAM - Under Age School girls X-Original-Date: 25 Jan 1998 07:21:52 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.126.95.111 X-Original-From: marias@usa.net X-CosmoTraq: G^X_8DUJ3T9HNM-5:`S980V:>FE\L_F2#*H#A9@\"9$] X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.duesseldorf.ecrc.net!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXTStep/OpenStep installation Followup-To: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Date: 21 Jan 1998 10:39:48 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Lines: 41 Message-ID: <6a4j9k$f881@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29594 comp.sys.next.hardware:32089 comp.sys.next.software:32263 comp.sys.next.misc:27499 comp.sys.next.bugs:4805 Andrew Weiss (cactopus@alfred.duch.udel.edu) wrote: : On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, James Moyer wrote: : [...] : oversight on NeXT's part, when mixing SCSI and IDE. I think the IDE : CD-ROM taking sc0 may have something to do with it... might not like a : mixed bus... I have a BusLogic 958 Ultra-Wide card with a CDU926s on ID 5 : (CD-writer), and an Iomega Jaz 1GB on ID 4. No, it's not the mixing! SCSI and EIDE run for me together just fine at least since NS 3.3 up to (now) OS 4.2. One thing is very important: in the ordering of the bootdrivers (or active drivers, but (E)IDE and SCSI ususally are bootdrivers) in the System.config/*.table (* being Default and/ or Instance0), the SCSI-driver has to precede(!) the (E)IDE-driver. Otherwise an (E)IDE CD-Drive is detected "too early" and gets e.g. the pseudeo-sd0-name and then the SCSI-driver is confused because it thinks its devices are sd0 up to sd(n). First SCSI, then EIDE guarantees, that sd0 to sd(n) are 'real' SCSI devices and ATAPI-devices (CDs) get pseudos sd(n+1) to (well whatever). This was necessary with NS 3.3 and works with OS 4.2 - I never tried to arbitrarily give OS 4.2 the 'wrong' order, so I can't insist that it is necessary for OS 4.x, too, but I assume it is; didn't want to test if my system gets into chaos (again) :-). Although the ordering is/should be vital and necessary it, most probably won't help you with your SCSI bus resets, as these are a problem of either hardware or the driver not properly working with the adapter/ controler card. : : Any thoughts from anybody else as well? Just these. They might improve your system :-), but not solve your problem :-(, sorry. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.duesseldorf.ecrc.net!RRZ.Uni-Koeln.DE!uni-duisburg.de!news.uni-essen.de!spo109!not-for-mail From: phy070@spo109 (H.-R. Oberhage) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Subject: Re: Matrox Millennium and picture quality Followup-To: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software Date: 21 Jan 1998 10:58:45 GMT Organization: Universitaet Essen GH, Germany Lines: 32 Message-ID: <6a4kd5$f882@mx2.hrz.uni-essen.de> References: <6a2uqj$8i@eskimo.bb.bawue.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: spf109.power.uni-essen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32090 comp.sys.next.software:32264 Juergen Grieb (juergen@eskimo.bb.bawue.de) wrote: : I just upgraded my Intel System and I'm very disappointed about the : quality of the picture. : : I have a Matrox Millennium II and the picture is sharp but it also isn't. : [...] : at all? : : Does anyone use another driver with wich it works? : : Btw, this phenomena can only been seen using resolutions greater than : 1024x768. Go to Configure.app, the video-driver section, then the screen settings selecition and try different (slower?) refresh rates. With the Millenium (I, not II) NS/OS had some RAMDAC init problems for quite some time (i.e. driver versions), resulting in 'dissolving columns spots' on the screen, which increased in time until the screen was absolutelty unreadable. This only occurred with some cards, but a large enough selection, that I can say it was not just by coincidence (or a certain manufacturer lot). Maybe it's the same here, too, especially if the (max.) RAMDAC refresh isn't determined properly. Greetings, Ruediger Oberhage -- H.-R. Oberhage Mail: Univ.-GH Essen E-Mail: phy070@sp2.power.Uni-Essen.DE Fachbereich 7 (Physik) ruediger@Theo-Phys.Uni-Essen.DE S05 V07 E88 Universitaetsstrasse 5 Phone: (+49) 201 / 183-2493 D-45117 Essen, Germany FAX: (+49) 201 / 183-2120 #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!blackbush.xlink.net!ILK.DE!usenet From: "Jan Klingel" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: A/D-Converter-Board Date: 21 Jan 1998 11:16:35 GMT Organization: ILK Internet GmbH, Karlsruhe, BRD Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bd265f$57feb1e0$0eca09c0@klingel> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.122.34.194 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Has anyone tryed to use a A/D-converter-board with a min. sampling rate of 100kHz (e.g. HSDAS-16 from Analogic) in a intel-NS3.3-system? thanks, Jan j.klingel@alcatel.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.udel.edu!not-for-mail From: Andrew Weiss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.admin,comp.sys.next.misc Subject: SCSI problems, and sound Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 01:33:50 -0500 Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 60 Message-ID: <34C1A24E.446B@alfred.duch.udel.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: alfred.duch.udel.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; IRIX64 6.2 IP28) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32092 comp.sys.next.bugs:4807 comp.sys.next.misc:27500 I just installled OpenSTEP 4.2 Intel Mach, but am having problems with my SCSI card. No matter how I configure the card, I still get the following over and over again: Resetting the SCSI Bus Configuring sc1 (sc0 is my ATAPI CD) BTC Timeout Resetting SCSI Bus BTC Timeout .... etc. I have a Bus Logic Ultra Wide 958 PCI Adapter... anyone else work with these? My motherboard is a generic greenboard, and the CPU AMD 586 133 X5 P75. Everything works fine otherwise... though an annoying thing is the boot: PnP BIOS Detected PnP Enabled... something 0xfff csn=255 and then it counts slowly through 255 non-existant plug and play devices... Cannot configure Card... something 1 " " 2 .... 255 My friend's Pentium Laptop said csn 0 and didn't do anything else. Also his Laptop is a ThinkPad C760i, though he can't get video out of the VGA bW:2 mode... it supports 800x600x256 though in Win95. Also my SoundBlaster 16 works (non PnP), but after playing about 5 or so sounds stops playing any sounds. Any clues, though the SCSI problem is most important. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A waist is a terrible thing to mind" -The United We Grow Poundage Fund "Windows OS's...Software that's missing a wheel, and has a denver boot on the others...reBOOT reBOOT reBOOT" -Me ANDREW J. WEISS Odd computer Hack, Sailing Guru, Chem nerd (thanks to Aaron), UNIX dweeb (Thanks to Pam), and taken (thanks to Shirin) -COOL he works with LINUX, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP IRIX OpenBSD 2.1 Mac68k (IIx/8/1080) Solaris 2.5.1 x86 and SParC and coming soon: Rhapsody cactopus@alfred.duch.udel.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.220.251.22!netnews.nwnet.net!news.nodak.edu!plains.NoDak.edu!not-for-mail From: awang@plains.NoDak.edu (Andy Wang) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: More follow up -- ELSA Winner 2000Pro-X and NSFIP 3.3 Date: 21 Jan 1998 02:38:34 -0600 Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network Lines: 34 Message-ID: <6a4c6a$bec@plains.NoDak.edu> References: <01bd23d5$d016c000$8d5417d0@kimball> <69vvcu$f5a$1@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> <6a3ue1$273@plains.NoDak.edu> <01bd2634$120c6900$7d5417d0@kimball> NNTP-Posting-Host: plains.nodak.edu In article <01bd2634$120c6900$7d5417d0@kimball>, Matthew wrote: >WHOA!......Andy, did I read your post correctly? You can actually add >"Shutdown Graphics=No" to the expert settings of the video driver in >Configure.app or the Instance0.table in System.config? I didn't even know >that this option existed. Furthermore, I had no idea that there was such a >thing as "verbose shutdown." Have you actually tried this on your machine >or know of someone who has done it (successfully)? This has really sparked >my curiosity!! Anyone else using "verbose" shutdown? Thanks for the info, >Andy. it's been quite sometime since i ran 3.3, but yeah, i added Shutdown Graphics = No into the expert settings of Configure.app. it wasn't in the video driver though.. it was the expert settings button that shows up in the system summary screen. basically, it looks just like as if you called shutdown from a Terminal.app shell.. occasionally (i have a triton based system with an ELSA winner 2000 prox also) it would hang on shutdown just as it hung on bootup, and with that option it never did the same thing. so yeah, it worked successfully, and i did more than try, i had this option for about a year or so, and the only boot failurs i would have are the occasional times when it failed to unmount a disk properly.. i seem to recall reading that there was a libposix bug that probably caused this but i can't remember. toodles. andy -- ----------------- Dopey (Andy Wang) - NeXT, MIME or SUN mail OK -------------- - Pro-hemp, and proud of it! - finger -l awang@plains.nodak.edu for pgp key - - What the hell is a chicken? - http://www.acm.ndsu.nodak.edu/~awang/ - ------------------------- awang@plains.nodak.edu ----------------------------- #################################################################### From: Dave Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Nitro Station Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:00:05 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 5 Message-ID: <34C564F9.5C09@wsunix.wsu.edu> Reply-To: davec@wsunix.wsu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: res148115.resnet.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!roka.net!news.planetc.com!news-xfer.siscom.net!204.186.110.126.MISMATCH!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!not-for-mail Hi all... Does anyone know anything about this machine? Apparently it was only prototyped and a few exist...I am curious though!! Thanks! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!not-for-mail From: sanguish@digifix.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.announce,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NEXTSTEP/OpenStep Resources on the Net Supersedes: <15507885099622@digifix.com> Date: 25 Jan 1998 04:58:54 GMT Organization: Digital Fix Development Lines: 330 Approved: sanguish@digifix.com Message-ID: <345885704420@digifix.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: digifix.digifix.com X-Mailer: Perl5 Mail::Internet v1.23 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:93431 comp.sys.next.announce:4548 comp.sys.next.hardware:32095 comp.sys.next.software:32266 comp.sys.next.misc:27503 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29596 comp.sys.next.bugs:4808 comp.sys.next.programmer:27449 Topics include: Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites NeXTanswers Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP World Wide Web Sites ============================================ The following sites are a sample of the OpenStep related WWW sites available. A comprehensive list is available on Stepwise. Stepwise OpenStep/Rhapsody Information Server http://www.stepwise.com Stepwise has been serving the OpenStep/NEXTSTEP community since March 1993. Some of the many resources on the site include: OpenStep Third Party Software guide, Developer Directory, Mailing List information, extensive listing of FTP and WWW sites related to OpenStep and NEXTSTEP, OpenStep related Frequently Asked Questions. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. NeXT Software Archives @ Peak.org http://www.peak.org/next http://www.peak.org/openstep PEAK is the premier NeXTStep/OpenStep FTP site in North America. This is the World Wide Web interace to the FTP site. Apple Enterprise Software Group (formerly NeXT Computer, Inc.) http://www.next.com Here is where you'll find the NeXTanswers archive, with information on OpenStep installation, drivers and software patches. Apple Computer's 'Prelude to Rhapsody' Self Support Site http://devworld.apple.com/dev/prelude.html This site has been constructed to help you help yourself to learn as much as possible about the foundation for Rhapsody, today's OPENSTEP. The site provides an informal collection of pointers, references, and starting points for developers who are using the Prelude to Rhapsody bundle, distributed at this year's Worldwide Developer Conference. OpenStep/NEXTSTEP/Rhapsody Related Usenet Newsgroups ==================================================== COMP.SYS.NEXT.ADVOCACY This is the "why NEXTSTEP is better (or worse) than anything else in the known universe" forum. It was created specifically to divert lengthy flame wars from .misc. COMP.SYS.NEXT.ANNOUNCE Announcements of general interest to the NeXT community (new products, FTP submissions, user group meetings, commercial announcements etc.) This is a moderated newsgroup, meaning that you can't post to it directly. Submissions should be e-mailed to next-announce@digifix.com where the moderator (Scott Anguish) will screen them for suitability. Messages posted to announce should NOT be posted or crossposted to any other comp.sys.next groups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.BUGS A place to report verifiable bugs in NeXT-supplied software. Material e-mailed to Bug_NeXT@NeXT.COM is not published, so this is a place for the net community find out about problems when they're discovered. This newsgroup has a very poor signal/noise ratio--all too often bozos post stuff here that really belongs someplace else. It rarely makes sense to crosspost between this and other c.s.n.* newsgroups, but individual reports may be germane to certain non-NeXT-specific groups as well. COMP.SYS.NEXT.HARDWARE Discussions about NeXT-label hardware and compatible peripherals, and non-NeXT-produced hardware (e.g. Intel) that is compatible with NEXTSTEP. In most cases, questions about Intel hardware are better asked in comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware. Questions about SCSI devices belong in comp.periphs.scsi. This isn't the place to buy or sell used NeXTs--that's what .marketplace is for. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MARKETPLACE NeXT stuff for sale/wanted. Material posted here must not be crossposted to any other c.s.n.* newsgroup, but may be crossposted to misc.forsale.computers.workstation or appropriate regional newsgroups. COMP.SYS.NEXT.MISC For stuff that doesn't fit anywhere else. Anything you post here by definition doesn't belong anywhere else in c.s.n.*--i.e. no crossposting!!! COMP.SYS.NEXT.PROGRAMMER Questions and discussions of interest to NEXTSTEP programmers. This is primarily a forum for advanced technical material. Generic UNIX questions belong elsewhere (comp.unix.questions), although specific questions about NeXT's implementation or porting issues are appropriate here. Note that there are several other more "horizontal" newsgroups (comp.lang.objective-c, comp.lang.postscript, comp.os.mach, comp.protocols.tcp-ip, etc.) that may also be of interest. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SOFTWARE This is a place to talk about [third party] software products that run on NEXTSTEP systems. COMP.SYS.NEXT.SYSADMIN Stuff relating to NeXT system administration issues; in rare cases this will spill over into .programmer or .software. ** RELATED NEWSGROUPS ** COMP.SOFT-SYS.NEXTSTEP Like comp.sys.next.software and comp.sys.next.misc combined. Exists because NeXT is a software-only company now, and comp.soft-sys is for discussion of software systems with scope similar to NEXTSTEP. COMP.LANG.OBJECTIVE-C Technical talk about the Objective-C language. Implemetations discussed include NeXT, Gnu, Stepstone, etc. COMP.OBJECT Technical talk about OOP in general. Lots of C++ discussion, but NeXT and Objective-C get quite a bit of attention. At times gets almost philosophical about objects, but then again OOP allows one to be a programmer/philosopher. (The original comp.sys.next no longer exists--do not attempt to post to it.) Exception to the crossposting restrictions: announcements of usenet RFDs or CFVs, when made by the news.announce.newgroups moderator, may be simultaneously crossposted to all c.s.n.* newsgroups. Getting the Newsgroups without getting News =========================================== Thanks to Michael Ross at antigone.com, the main NEXTSTEP groups are now available as a mailing list digest as well. next-nextstep next-advocacy next-announce next-bugs next-hardware next-marketplace next-misc next-programmer next-software next-sysadmin object lang-objective-c (For a full description, send mail to listserv@antigone.com). The subscription syntax is essentially the same as Majordomo's. To subscribe, send a message to *-request@lists.best.com saying: subscribe where * is the name of the list e.g. next-programmer-request@lists.best.com Major OpenStep/NEXTSTEP FTP sites ================================= ftp://ftp.next.peak.org The main site for North American submissions formerly ftp.cs.orst.edu ftp://ftp.peanuts.org: (Peanuts) Located in Germany. Comprehensive archive site. Very well maintained. ftp://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/comp/next NeGeN/NiNe (NEXTSTEP Gebruikers Nederland/NeXTSTEP in the Netherlands) ftp://cube.sm.dsi.unimi.it (Italian NEXTSTEP User Group) ftp://ftp.nmr.embl-heidelberg.de/pub/next eduStep ftp://ftp.next.com: See below ftp.next.com and NextAnswers@next.com ===================================== [from the document ftp://ftp.next.com/pub/NeXTanswers/1000_Help] Welcome to the NeXTanswers information retrieval system! This system allows you to request online technical documents, drivers, and other software, which are then sent to you automatically. You can request documents by fax or Internet electronic mail, read them on the world-wide web, transfer them by anonymous ftp, or download them from the BBS. NeXTanswers is an automated retrieval system. Requests sent to it are answered electronically, and are not read or handled by a human being. NeXTanswers does not answer your questions or forward your requests. USING NEXTANSWERS BY E-MAIL To use NeXTanswers by Internet e-mail, send requests to nextanswers@next.com. Files are sent as NeXTmail attachments by default; you can request they be sent as ASCII text files instead. To request a file, include that file's ID number in the Subject line or the body of the message. You can request several files in a single message. You can also include commands in the Subject line or the body of the message. These commands affect the way that files you request are sent: ASCII causes the requested files to be sent as ASCII text SPLIT splits large files into 95KB chunks, using the MIME Message/Partial specification REPLY-TO address sets the e-mail address NeXTanswers uses These commands return information about the NeXTanswers system: HELP returns this help file INDEX returns the list of all available files INDEX BY DATE returns the list of files, sorted newest to oldest SEARCH keywords lists all files that contain all the keywords you list (ignoring capitalization) For example, a message with the following Subject line requests three files: Subject: 2101 2234 1109 A message with this body requests the same three files be sent as ASCII text files: 2101 2234 1109 ascii This message requests two lists of files, one for each search: Subject: SEARCH Dell SCSI SEARCH NetInfo domain NeXTanswers will reply to the address in your From: line. To use a different address either set your Reply-To: line, or use the NeXTanswers command REPLY-TO If you have any problem with the system or suggestions for improvement, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY FAX To use NeXTanswers by fax, call (415) 780-3990 from a touch-tone phone and follow the instructions. You'll be asked for your fax number, a number to identify your fax (like your phone extension or office number), and the ID numbers of the files you want. You can also request a list of available files. When you finish entering the file numbers, end the call and the files will be faxed to you. If you have problems using this fax system, please call Technical Support at 1-800-848-6398. You cannot use the fax system outside the U.S & Canada. USING NEXTANSWERS VIA THE WORLD-WIDE WEB To use NeXTanswers via the Internet World-Wide Web connect to NeXT's web server at URL http://www.next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY ANONYMOUS FTP To use NeXTanswers by Internet anonymous FTP, connect to FTP.NEXT.COM and read the help file pub/NeXTanswers/README. If you have problems using this, please send mail to nextanswers-request@next.com. USING NEXTANSWERS BY MODEM To use NeXTanswers via modem call the NeXTanswers BBS at (415) 780-2965. Log in as the user "guest", and enter the Files section. From there you can download NeXTanswers documents. FOR MORE HELP... If you need technical support for NEXTSTEP beyond the information available from NeXTanswers, call the Support Hotline at 1-800-955-NeXT (outside the U.S. call +1-415-424-8500) to speak to a NEXTSTEP Technical Support Technician. If your site has a NeXT support contract, your site's support contact must make this call to the hotline. Otherwise, hotline support is on a pay-per-call basis. Thanks for using NeXTanswers! _________________________________________________________________ Written by: Eric P. Scott ( eps@toaster.SFSU.EDU ) and Scott Anguish ( sanguish@digifix.com ) Additions from: Greg Anderson ( Greg_Anderson@afs.com ) Michael Pizolato ( alf@epix.net ) Dan Grillo ( dan_grillo@next.com ) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Hardware Pictures Date: 24 Jan 1998 22:26:14 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 9 Message-ID: <6aelu6$o9h@slip.net> References: <34C73E6C.3EF1DBE1@alderley.zeneca.com> <885509189.26390.0.nnrp-11.9e982234@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net You might find http://www.slip.net/~emclean/next/article.html of interest too. Emmett #################################################################### From: Andrew Weiss Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.bugs Subject: Re: NeXTStep/OpenStep installation Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:37:55 -0500 Organization: University of Delaware Lines: 48 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: alfred.duch.udel.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: James Moyer In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980120185759.0092d3b0@osu.edu> Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!ais.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.udel.edu!alfred.duch.udel.edu!cactopus Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29597 comp.sys.next.hardware:32097 comp.sys.next.software:32267 comp.sys.next.misc:27504 comp.sys.next.bugs:4809 On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, James Moyer wrote: > It sounds like you correctly load the driver, but then the computer just > comes to a halt. Is that correct? > > James Moyer Yes that was correct, but I figured out how to fix it. After the CD essentials installation, I drop into single user mode and edit /private/Drivers/i386/System.config/Default.table, and take out things like BusMouse, PS2Mouse (I have a serial mouse), PCIC, PCMCIA, and most importantly Intel82x0 something bridge PCI chip driver. I don't have this, and I think this one is the culprit, though BusMouse crashes my friend's Pentium laptop. Then it works like a charm. Only problem now is the SCSI driver... when installed it BTC timeouts infinitely and keeps resetting the bus over and over and over.....All other OS's work, so it can't be the operating system, nor the CPU, and its most likely an oversight on NeXT's part, when mixing SCSI and IDE. I think the IDE CD-ROM taking sc0 may have something to do with it... might not like a mixed bus... I have a BusLogic 958 Ultra-Wide card with a CDU926s on ID 5 (CD-writer), and an Iomega Jaz 1GB on ID 4. Any thoughts from anybody else as well? Andrew ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "A waist is a terrible thing to mind" -The United We Grow Poundage Fund "Windows OS's...Software that's missing a wheel, and has a denver boot on the others...reBOOT reBOOT reBOOT" -Me ANDREW J. WEISS Odd computer Hack, Sailing Guru, Chem nerd (thanks to Aaron), UNIX dweeb (Thanks to Pam), and taken (thanks to Shirin) -COOL he works with LINUX, NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP IRIX OpenBSD 2.1 Mac68k (IIx/8/1080) Solaris 2.5.1 x86 and SParC and coming soon: Rhapsody cactopus@alfred.duch.udel.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news.sub.net!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!uni9 From: uni9@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Moritz Gmelin) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: 3com 3c589 with NS 3.3 ? Date: 25 Jan 1998 05:59:14 GMT Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6aekbi$300$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de 885707955 3072 uni9 129.13.95.1 X-Complaints-To: usenet@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Hi ! is there anyone out there who got the 3c589 to run ? My PCIC Driver is recognizing the Card correctly, but the Driver EtherLink3 does not display anything when loaded. IRQs and IOs on the PCMCIA Card and in the Instance0 seem to be OK. Cold it be any Conflicts. (W95 on the same machine seems to be fine with the config). Thanks for any Help. -- Moritz Gmelin *** eMail uni9@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!128.174.5.49!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!harper.uchicago.edu!ajgilmou From: Andrew Gilmour Subject: cyrix 6x86 and OpenStep X-Nntp-Posting-Host: harper.uchicago.edu Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: University of Chicago -- Academic Computing Services Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:26:33 GMT Lines: 3 Is the Cyrix 6x86 chip supported under OpenStep? Andrew #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.154.56!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!ausnews.austin.ibm.com!rtpnews.raleigh.ibm.com!not-for-mail From: Marshall Smith Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT cube and Optical Drive Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 10:10:21 -0500 Organization: ISSC South Region, RTP, NC Lines: 44 Message-ID: <34CB55DC.4AF19231@eos.ncsu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: marvinmartian.raleigh.ibm.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; U) I've just obtained a NeXT cube. Actually, it was supposed to be a NeXT Turbo Cube, but they sent the wrong things at first. Then, they sent me the Turbo motherboard, and I've got to send back the 040-25 cube board. One thing I noticed when going through the switch (after hell and high water to get a 3mm Allen wrench) was that the board adapter interface for the Optical drive didn't exist on the Turbo board. I went looking at NeXTAnswers and found the announcement letter for the NeXTcube Turbo, which says: "The NeXTcube Turbo has three expansion slots and the capacity for up to 2.8gigabytes (GB) of internal hard disk storage space. One major change is that the NeXTcube Turbo will no longer support the 256MB Optical Disk Drive (which NeXT no longer produces). Until the NeXTcube Turbo ships, NeXT will continue to deliver 25 MHz NeXTcube systems. Table 2 shows pricing for the 25MHz NeXTcube configurations." Now, I can read that and see that I'm not a moron and that there actually is no interface for the OD, just the SCSI and floppy connectors. However, since I have the OD in the cube, which was purchased as a toy and for me to do a little work and learning on, I'd like to try and use it. Are there any suggestions on how I should go about this? I realize it has horrible access time and all of that, but I spend much of my days taking apart machines and putting them back together, and I don't mind spending excessively stupid amounts of time to get another 'toy' working. The only way I could figure to do this would be to have a dualprocessored system (as documented in a FAQ) with one of the boards being an 0X0-025 so that it would have the OD interface port. Is that correct, or am I missing something much easier here? Or should I just forget it altogether? Thanks for any answers -- feel free to mail them directly to me if you don't wish to post. I have to say that in all the newsgroups I read and follow, the NeXT and Be (hopefully I can get a BeBox soon too...I'm just going after all the 'Apple Orphans') users seem to be the most helpful and dedicated to their machines. Just look at all the work several people went through to get Mr. Spammer from PCS to stop posting to c.s.n.marketplace... Marshall -- also looking for a NeXT Laser, NeXTdimension board, and maybe a 0X0-025 cube board, depending on the answers to the above -- have a NTSC (16/500?) to trade (but I'm keeping the monitor if I get a Nd board...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: willadams@aol.com (WillAdams) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ZIP Setup Help! Date: 25 Jan 1998 20:03:00 GMT Lines: 15 Message-ID: <19980125200300.PAA25143@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: If you have no other SCSI devices, you'll need a high-quality SCSI-2 (HDI-50?) to Mac DB-25 cable (or converter) and (I believe) an active terminator (DB-25). With one of the newer Zip drives (or a Zip Plus) you may be able to do without the terminator. It's best IMHO if the Zip drive is not the last SCSI device because of the termination difficulties with it. William William Adams http://members.aol.com/willadams Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.pn.com!nntp.pn.com!nntp.ni.net!tuckerj From: tuckerj@apple.com (John Tucker) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: 3com 3c589 with NS 3.3 ? Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 21:00:11 -0700 Organization: Apple Computer, Inc. Lines: 29 Message-ID: References: <6aekbi$300$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.183.207.74 X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.3 In article <6aekbi$300$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, uni9@rzstud1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Moritz Gmelin) wrote: > Hi ! > > is there anyone out there who got the 3c589 to run ? My PCIC Driver is > recognizing the Card correctly, but the Driver EtherLink3 does not display > anything when loaded. IRQs and IOs on the PCMCIA Card and in the Instance0 > seem to be OK. Cold it be any Conflicts. (W95 on the same machine seems to > be fine with the config). > Thanks for any Help. > > -- > Moritz Gmelin *** eMail uni9@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de Moritz, I don't know about NS 3.3 but with OS 4.2/Prelude to Rhapsody there was a "trick" to making the 3C589 PC card to work. The id string is 3C589D so you have to add the D to the driver. Using the configure.app select the 3C589 driver then click the expert button and add the D to the 3C589. Save and reboot and it should work. adios jt John Tucker Apple Computer, Inc. Consulting Systems Engr. National Education Team #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!newscore.univie.ac.at!news-raspail.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: cyrix 6x86 and OpenStep Date: 25 Jan 1998 23:44:13 GMT Organization: none Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6agiod$heb$17@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: ajgilmou@harper.uchicago.edu In Andrew Gilmour wrote: > Is the Cyrix 6x86 chip supported under OpenStep? You do not want to use a Cyrix. Its threading is broken and will cause lockups especially if you use OmniWeb. AMD apparently works just fine. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeed.direct.ca!torn!kwon!watserv3.uwaterloo.ca!dfevans From: dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca (David Evans) Subject: Re: Which new HD in slab? Message-ID: <885775809.731818@globe.uwaterloo.ca> Sender: news@watserv3.uwaterloo.ca Nntp-Posting-Host: globe.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <01bd290a$091f4d20$6eed90ce@shiva> Cache-Post-Path: globe.uwaterloo.ca!unknown@bcr11.uwaterloo.ca Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:50:41 GMT Lines: 29 In article <01bd290a$091f4d20$6eed90ce@shiva>, Chris Jensen wrote: > >I would also be interested in recommendations for 2GB SCSI disks that "Just >work" with NeXT hardware. I just got burned with a Seagate ST52160N 2GB >drive, which doesn't format correctly with sdform or sdformat. My ST52160N works just fine. By default the disk will be set up with two 1GB+ partitions (which with the 10% danger zone would make 899MB sound pretty reasonable.) If you want to partition it differently you have to set up a disktab entry: Jan 23 19:02:14 gallifrey mach: SCSI 53C90A Controller, Target 7, as sc0 at 0x21 14000 Jan 23 19:02:14 gallifrey mach: SEAGATE ST52160N Rev 0344 as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0 Jan 23 19:02:14 gallifrey mach: Disk Label: Gallifrey-Disk Jan 23 19:02:14 gallifrey mach: Disk Capacity 2069MB, Device Block 512 bytes gllifrey:/Users/dfevans> df Filesystem kbytes used avail capacity Mounted on /dev/sd0a 1023390 578523 342528 63% / /dev/sd0b 1023391 182942 738109 20% /Users -- David Evans (NeXTMail/MIME OK) dfevans@bbcr.uwaterloo.ca Computer/Synth Junkie http://bbcr.uwaterloo.ca/~dfevans/ University of Waterloo "Default is the value selected by the composer Ontario, Canada overridden by your command." - Roland TR-707 Manual #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.b-1.de.contrib.net!bolzen.in-berlin.de!news.all.de!zrz.TU-Berlin.DE!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!chnws03.mediaone.net!24.128.1.107!chnws04.ne.mediaone.net!not-for-mail From: Steven W. Schuldt Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: OPENSTEP 4.X on SPARC - Any Experiences? Date: 21 Jan 1998 16:44:30 GMT Organization: MediaOne -=- Northeast Region Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6a58le$7ip$1@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com> Reply-To: sschuldt@mediaone.net NNTP-Posting-Host: bostonix.ne.mediaone.net All: I'm shortly going to have access a Sparc5/85 and am thinking of putting OPENSTEP 4.2 on the old warhorse. Like many in the community, I've never even seen NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP on a SparcStation. I seem to remember rumblings about the OPENSTEP/SPARC experience decaying markedly since 3.3, but I don't recall any specifics. What, if anything is broken that works on M68k or Intel hardware? Is it just slow? - Steve #################################################################### From: web@airmail.net (user) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Installing SCSI CD-ROM on Turbo Colorstation Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 02:40:20 GMT Organization: INTERNET AMERICA Lines: 16 Message-ID: <07AFB0D5329DA106.E9F7B49F8A3F46A9.D1CA92AAB36C702C@library-proxy.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <6a3n5i$6qu@library.airnews.net> Reply-To: web@airmail.net NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Tue Jan 20 20:39:47 1998 NNTP-Posting-Host: dal33-27.ppp.iadfw.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!news.nodak.edu!netnews3.nwnet.net!netnews.nwnet.net!seatimes.seatimes.com!news.sea.pnap.net!news-ana-24.sprintlink.net!news-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.flash.net!nntp.primenet.com!news.airnews.net!cabal10.airnews.net!thereisnocabal!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet So I want to install a CD-ROM on my Turbo Colorstation. I got a generic external SCSI CD-ROM, but when I went to plug it in, the cable that came with it didn't correspond to any of the available ports on the back of the machine. There are two main ports: one small one that has an icon of a rectangle with a line going into one end and out the other and one larger one with a big diamond icon with a line going into one corner. I thought the first one was was most likely the external SCSI port, but I'm not sure. So I have two questions: which port should I use and is there anything special I need to know about the cable other than the number of pins? Default signature #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Seek specs on bus speed on black hardware Date: 26 Jan 1998 14:44:05 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6aj3jl$jir@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net Hi, Does anyone have any specifications on the bus (mostly bus speed but other info could be helpful) on NeXT hardware? Thanks, Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!peerfeed.ncal.verio.net!newsfeed.slip.net!news.slip.net!not-for-mail From: emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seek specs on bus speed on black hardware Date: 26 Jan 1998 16:23:19 -0800 Organization: Slip.Net Lines: 33 Message-ID: <6aj9dn$prg@slip.net> References: <6aj3jl$jir@slip.net> <6aj5au$75r$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net I thought I'd mention ... I want to experiment inserting a QuadDoubler from www.sonnettech.com into a 68040 25Mhz cube. I need to know the speed of the bus and the speed of the bus as a ratio to the speed of the processor. Emmett In article <6aj5au$75r$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com>, Chuck Swiger wrote: >emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone have any specifications on the bus >> (mostly bus speed but other info could be helpful) >> on NeXT hardware? > >Sure. The NeXTbus is a slightly modified version of the Apple NuBUS, also >known as the "workstation" NuBUS which runs at twice the speed of the normal >NuBUS. I believe the speed is 33 MHz, but it's been so long that I don't >recall for certain. :-) > >-Chuck > > Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer > ---------------+----------------------+-------------------- > "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!198.60.22.3!xmission!not-for-mail From: Kristofer Jon Magnusson Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Am I being smart? Date: 26 Jan 1998 12:10:52 -0700 Organization: XMission Internet (801 539 0900) Lines: 30 Message-ID: <6ain3s$4jd$1@xmission.xmission.com> References: <34CD027F.1166E4C8@nebo.infinity.com.eg> NNTP-Posting-Host: xmission.xmission.com X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 unoff BETA 970327; sun4m SunOS 5.5.1] Nenad Andjelic wrote: : David Smith Cochrane wrote: : > : > Hi all. I am about to buy a color turbo station with 3.3 on it. What I : > want to know is that as I am going to sell my powerbook to buy it, will I : > be able to do all the WP work and email I want for school without having : > to mess with unix command line horror too much? I also want the machine to : > learn UNIX better, but I just need reassurance that I am making a smart : > buy! : > : > Thanks for any help, please reply be email!! : > : > Dave : Well, let's put it this way. In order to configure everything to work, : you might need to fiddle with UNIX a bit. But I have a cheaper solution : for you: if you really want to run UNIX, install Linux beside the OS you : are already running. With a NEXTSTEP box, you will almost never have to crack the command line. With Linux, you will live in the command line. Get a PC. Load NEXTSTEP on it. If and when you want to delve into Linux, you will have great hardware with which to work with. ..................kris -- Kristopher Magnusson kris@xmission.com (no NeXTmail, please) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you know so much about Usenet, then why are you still posting? #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware From: tachang@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Andrew Chang) Subject: Re: Power Supply/Color Slab woes X-Nntp-Posting-Host: gsbux1.uchicago.edu Message-ID: Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Organization: GSB, University of Chicago References: <34C551DB.3B8F@cgo.wave.ca> Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:57:14 GMT Lines: 50 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!roka.net!news.planetc.com!leto.ou.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!ais.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!uchinews!gsbux1!tachang In article <34C551DB.3B8F@cgo.wave.ca>, Rob Harrap wrote: >Hi all: > >For any old time nexters... > >I have a color slab, which died a couple of months ago. I need 'at' it. >I know the stuff on the hard drive is okay, as I've put this in a >friends slab and it was a-ok. > >I looked into various slab reliability issues and the most obvious >candidate was the power supply. I bought a new one, put it in, and still >no go. When I hit the power button, it totally ignores me. > >I've taken a voltmeter and carefully checked the pinouts on the old and >new power supply. I don't get any voltage across any pins, but I don't >have the pinouts to know where to look. I've verified my voltmeter is >fine, and the power line into the slab is fine, so the question is: > >(1) does anyone know the pinouts to check for a power supply to know if >it is ok? > >(2) does anyone have any other tests I can do? > >Short of buying a 'new' slab, I'm kind of stuck. Ideas? > >TIA, > >Rob Harrap I've seen this happends occasionally. Just be patient before you replace the PS or get another slab brother. There are several things you need to remember: 1. There is no power switch at any of the NeXT PS. 2. The PS is controlled by a device (relay?) on the motherboard. This device (i.e., on/off) is controlled by the on-board battery. 3. The on/off UI is the power button, which runs through the kbd cable. The easiest solution would be to connect your "non-working" PS to a "working" slab and try it. Do not spend too much time guessing the PS pins. If your PS is fine, then check the components I mentioned above. This problem could happen when people do not turn off the machine cleanly, such as power failure, etc. Hope this helps. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: cqw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Type of RAM one can use in a NeXT turbo Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:10:15 -0800 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <34CD5E26.CA37A326@got.net> Reply-To: cqw@got.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 16508@207.167.94.95 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Hi comp.sys.next.hardware, Is it possible to use 72 pin, 60 ns, 32MB SIMMs, nonparity as RAM in a Turbo NeXTstation? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!digifix!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!not-for-mail From: Chuck Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seek specs on bus speed on black hardware Date: 26 Jan 1998 23:13:34 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <6aj5au$75r$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <6aj3jl$jir@slip.net> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.8.169 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) emclean@slip.net (Emmett McLean) wrote: > Hi, > > Does anyone have any specifications on the bus > (mostly bus speed but other info could be helpful) > on NeXT hardware? Sure. The NeXTbus is a slightly modified version of the Apple NuBUS, also known as the "workstation" NuBUS which runs at twice the speed of the normal NuBUS. I believe the speed is 33 MHz, but it's been so long that I don't recall for certain. :-) -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+----------------------+-------------------- "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!uni-erlangen.de!winx03!lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de!newsmaster From: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: OPENSTEP 4.X on SPARC - Any Experiences? Date: 22 Jan 1998 18:09:57 GMT Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany Lines: 27 Message-ID: <6a821l$hj@lobotomy.urz.uni-wuerzburg.de> References: <6a58le$7ip$1@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com> Reply-To: rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de NNTP-Posting-Host: wex124.extern.uni-wuerzburg.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: leffert@cs.uchicago.edu In Jonathan B. Leffert wrote: > In <6a58le$7ip$1@ndnws01.ne.highway1.com> Steven W. Schuldt wrote: [snip] > I used to run OpenStep 4.2 on a Sparc 5 (can't recall processor speed) with > 32mb of memory. It was actually fairly responsive (by no means was it a > speed demon, but it was definately a useable workstation). I don't seem to > recall finding anything significant broken. Now, unless you have the 24bit > SPARC graphics adapater (is this even supported?), you'll be running in 8bit > color. The S24 is supported and, ironically, performs a *lot* better under NS3.3 than under Solaris. Probably because it is a "dumb" framebuffer and the CPU has to do all the X11 stuff (for which the X11 code is not optimized) while under NS the CPU has been doing the DPS rendering right from the start and the DPS interpreter is highly optimized. AFAIK, you can do 8bit on a TGX(+) and 24 or 8 bit on a S24. You'll need 64MB RAM for OS4.2 though .... (that is, if you intend to use OpenStep apps like IB or PB). -- "Um Energie zu sparen, wird das Licht am Ende des Tunnels vorlaeufig abgeschaltet." rainer@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de (public key avaible at any key server near you ...) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Seek specs on bus speed on black hardware Date: 27 Jan 1998 01:23:50 GMT Organization: none Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6ajcv6$osg$4@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6aj3jl$jir@slip.net> <6aj5au$75r$7@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> <6aj9dn$prg@slip.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: emclean@slip.net In <6aj9dn$prg@slip.net> Emmett McLean wrote: > I want to experiment inserting a QuadDoubler > from www.sonnettech.com into a 68040 25Mhz cube. I would have figured you would have been around long enough to hear this one answered already. It won't work. There are inner "things" which won't work if the timing is changed. The best you could do would be the Pyro board from www.orb.com ($899 or $809 academic) see http://www.orb.com/Pyro/index.html for more. TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org ding more memory to the system, upgrading it's hard drives, or getting a different machine. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+----------------------+-------------------- "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!fastnet!news-xfer.netaxs.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <34ccc26b.3628360@news.dracsconsulting.com> Control: cancel <34ccc26b.3628360@news.dracsconsulting.com> Date: 27 Jan 1998 02:28:53 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: jphillipsouza@usanet1.com Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.136.1.211!news.cwi.net!news.dracsconsulting.com!12.67.194.73 X-Original-Subject: Bill Clinton Guilty Or Innocent? 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Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!wuff.mayn.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <6ahgvp$ak6@ccnic07.kyoto-su.ac.jp> Control: cancel <6ahgvp$ak6@ccnic07.kyoto-su.ac.jp> Date: 27 Jan 1998 12:07:09 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: vuxqtwfs@holocom.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!wnfeed!worldnet.att.net!205.252.116.205!howland.erols.net!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.join.ad.jp!wnoc-tyo-news!wnoc-sfc-news!wnoc-kyo-news!hakozaki.karrn!aero.kyushu-u!kuee-news!odins-suita!nuis!news.cc.nagoya-u.ac.jp!nfeed.gw.nagoya-u.ac.jp!cancer.nca5.ad.jp!news.kyoto-su.ac.jp!usenet X-Original-Subject: Affordable Web Hosting X-Original-Date: 26 Jan 1998 08:20:09 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip244-1.ainet.com X-Original-From: vuxqtwfs@holocom.net X-CosmoTraq: !W@'9BWTW]S"@WW)VBO*`@DI:X#UX"%181+74U5U8N References: <01bd29b1$5a11ad20$930accc3@wingate.robin.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: slip-3.slip.net In article <01bd29b1$5a11ad20$930accc3@wingate.robin.no>, Tysvær pedsenter wrote: >Just ordered ISDN lines for the house, and upon searching the Web and >Usenet for info on what card to get find that DejaNews has _one_ post on >NeXTStep and ISDN - an ad for a NeXT Dimension turbo box... I don't know how far back in time you can go with DejaNews but ... I'd recommend going with an Ascend Pipeline and searching on the keyword Ascend. Using an Ascend you could even surf the net on black hardware conformatably. One other thing. You might consider canceling the order for the ISDN line and seeing if you can find an ISP who has ADSL. At slip.net, for example, ASDL is available in Palo Alto and will be available in Northern California generally in 6 months. You will be able to get ISDN like performance for only $99 a month. Also, with ADSL slipnet says users can stay logged in 24 hours a day - there is no automated log out, this, I think, has something to do with the digital nature of the lines and their capacity to handle data. Emmett #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.net!psinntp!pubxfer.news.psi.net!usenet From: "Andrew J. Smith" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Rhapsody Intel on Micron "Samurai" System? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:08:00 -0600 Organization: PSINet Lines: 8 Message-ID: <34CE2280.204692D7@tnrealestate.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.241.20.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Has anyone had any luck running RDR on the PowerDigm XSU systems that use the Samurai chipset? I'm Considering starting a Rhapsody project. Thanks Andrew J. Smith KAL Software, LLC #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!masternews.telia.net!newspost.telia.com!thelma.netpower.no!not-for-mail From: "Tysvær pedsenter" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ISDN & NEXTStep? Date: 27 Jan 1998 15:54:52 GMT Organization: Tysvær kommune elevdatamaskin Lines: 27 Message-ID: <01bd29b1$5a11ad20$930accc3@wingate.robin.no> Reply-To: edmtl@edb.uib.no NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.204.10.147 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Just ordered ISDN lines for the house, and upon searching the Web and Usenet for info on what card to get find that DejaNews has _one_ post on NeXTStep and ISDN - an ad for a NeXT Dimension turbo box... So I've got everything figured out for Linux and for WinNT/95, but would love to keep using NeXTStep also when I surf, send mail, telnet, etc (it's after all much better to do this in NS than in Windoze!). I have a choice between 3 cards I can get for free (well, included when you subscribe to an ISP): Eicon Diva 2.0 TeleS 16.3 (both P&P and non P&P options) USR Sportster ISDN If there are other possibilities I will consider them, these option are nice because they are free (more or less). I also have a ZyXel 2864 Elite, but it cost _very_ much to upgrade to ISDN and thought I'd just sell it. Please cc: a copy of any followup to my email. Regards, Thor -- edmtl@edb.uib.no NeXTStep, Linux, Wi...unrecoverable error. System halted. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rhrz.uni-bonn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Installing SCSI CD-ROM on Turbo Colorstation Date: 27 Jan 1998 19:37:52 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Lines: 30 Message-ID: <6ald2g$6qb$1@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <07AFB0D5329DA106.E9F7B49F8A3F46A9.D1CA92AAB36C702C@library-proxy.airnews.net> Reply-To: Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: s2m039.dialup.rwth-aachen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: web@airmail.net In <07AFB0D5329DA106.E9F7B49F8A3F46A9.D1CA92AAB36C702C@library-proxy.airnews.net> user wrote: > So I want to install a CD-ROM on my Turbo Colorstation. I got a > generic external SCSI CD-ROM, but when I went to plug it in, the cable > that came with it didn't correspond to any of the available ports on > the back of the machine. > > There are two main ports: one small one that has an icon of a > rectangle with a line going into one end and out the other and one > larger one with a big diamond icon with a line going into one corner. > I thought the first one was was most likely the external SCSI port, > but I'm not sure. It's the one with the diamond shape. (on the leftleftleft side of the station, looking from behind) I guess you got a cable with two centronics plugs. Use it for other things... But what you need is a HD-50 plug for the NeXT and a centronics for the external CD-ROM. You can get this kind of cable, readily-made in any DECENT computer store. Other computers use the same cable (HP-workstations, SUN, I guess, too etcetc..) Have fun Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.rwth-aachen.de!not-for-mail From: martin@beauty.rwth-aachen.de (Martin Klocke) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ISDN & NEXTStep? Date: 27 Jan 1998 19:42:00 GMT Organization: Aachen University of Technology / Rechnerbetrieb Informatik Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6alda8$6qb$2@nets3.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE> References: <01bd29b1$5a11ad20$930accc3@wingate.robin.no> Reply-To: Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de NNTP-Posting-Host: s2m039.dialup.rwth-aachen.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: pedsent@hesbynett.no In <01bd29b1$5a11ad20$930accc3@wingate.robin.no> "Tysvær pedsenter" wrote: > So I've got everything figured out for Linux and for WinNT/95, but would > love to keep using NeXTStep also when I surf, send mail, telnet, etc (it's > after all much better to do this in NS than in Windoze!). If you have everything figured out for linux, well then USE IT ! I use an old 486 with red hat linux as a router for myself (turbocolor station) and my flatmate (W95). No problem, and you can surf as easily as you could ever wish... Bye Martin -- Martin Klocke Mail:Martin.Klocke@post.rwth-aachen.de Boxgraben 110 52064 Aachen Tel. +49-241-49378 NeXTMail and MIME welcome !! ble." #################################################################### From: Yves Pons <100321.1674@CompuServe.COM> Subject: monitor replacement for NeXT Color? Organization: GENIFI Message-ID: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc,fr.comp.sys.next Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:12:46 -0500 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!149.174.211.41!news-outbound.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!arl-news-svc-8.compuserve.com!nntp-nih2naac.compuserve.com Lines: 15 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32122 comp.sys.next.misc:27526 fr.comp.sys.next:2714 Which sort of monitor could I buy in replacement for a NeXT Station Color Monitor ? Does the NeXT video board need a monitor wich support Sync on green ? I'm looking for a 17" in the low - middle range in price. Where can I find connectors to connect the NeXT male connector (3W13 I think) to the VGA connector preferably or to a BNC monitors (which are more costly)? Thanks in advance. Best regards. Yves Pons Phone : (+33) 3-85-93-00-46 Fax : (+33) 3-85-48-97-19 Email : 100321.1674@compuserve.com #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!not-for-mail From: Yonael Teklu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Hardisk problem Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:54:34 -0500 Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia Lines: 38 Message-ID: <34CE579A.74D5@vt.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: ceage2.ee.vt.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) CC: yonael@vt.edu Hello: The original drive in our turbocolor nextstation crashed after almost 4 yrs of operation. We got a replacement drive, Quantum fireball 4.3GB, which I tried to initialize and load the system on. I was not successfull at first and later found out that NeXTSTEP ver 3.0 can't handle drives over 2GB. With NeXTSTEP ver 3.3, however, the 4.3GB disk was automatically partitioned into 3 units each some 1.45GB in size. The system was installed successfully and machine was restarted. Problem now is to boot up from the drive. The Fireball is recognized in its proper target but I notice on the next line that the Disk Capacity is 40MB only! (instead of 4300MB). Further down the following messages appear: Can't open /dev/rsd1a UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY, RUN fsck MANUALLY Reboot failed... mount: /dev/sd1a on /: No such device or address... mount: giving up on: Faking root mount entries # (prompt and booting stops) I took out the drive, mounted it on an external case and connected it to another NeXT machine. Builddisk app still reported it as a 40MB drive, and because of this, it can not install the packages. I have tried to format the drive using sdformat but to no avail. Is there anyother way I can fix this problem? Thank you. yona PS. Apologize for the rather long letter. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!newshub2.home.com!news.home.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!not-for-mail From: Dave Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT CD-ROM? Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 19:01:57 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 5 Message-ID: <34CEAACC.7AA7@wsunix.wsu.edu> Reply-To: davec@wsunix.wsu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: res148115.resnet.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Hi all, how much should I expect to pay for the NeXT CD-ROM drive? Does anyone have one for sale? Could I use any regular SCSI drive? Thanks! Dave #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!psinntp!pubxfer.news.psi.net!usenet From: mitch@digitalcastle.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer Recommendations (12/640 Plus, 8500) Date: 28 Jan 1998 05:54:10 GMT Organization: PSINet Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6amh62$8mu$1@client2.news.psi.net> Reply-To: mitch@digitalcastle.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.225.246.4 Hello, I am in the market for a new printer and I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on the the Apple 12/640 Plus or the 8500. Some of my questions are does duplex printing work through NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP. Also any comments on the overall quality and ease of use would be helpful. Mitch Roider #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.55.3.16!news2.mnsinc.com!news1.mnsinc.com!omega.gslink.com!barry From: barry@gslink.com (Barry Bocaner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Station/Cube serial port speed Date: 23 Jan 1998 17:08:58 GMT Organization: Cows Unlimited! Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6aaira$n17$1@news1.mnsinc.com> References: <34C5ED72.ACF48345@novonyx.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.157.143.5 X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] that Jesse Hall (jesse@novonyx.com) scribbled: > I've have the opportunity to purchase a NeXT Cube or Turbo Station. I'm > wondering if it is possible to use one of these machines as a router to my > ISP, connecting through a modem. I've heard that the NeXT serial ports are too > slow for this purpose, but I'm not sure how reliable that is. How fast will > they go? Is there any difference between the Cube and the Station? Are there > any other issues I should be aware of before trying this? I still haven't seen definative word on whether or not nextstep will do IP forwarding, and I suspect it won't. This makes it useless as a router. Get the Turbo Station and enjoy it, but get yourself a cheap SS1 or PC w/o a monitor ($50 should do it...) for your router. -- --=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Barry J. Bocaner -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!news.camelot.de!heller!heller From: heller@altoetting-online.de Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Power Supply/Color Slab woes Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 21:58:42 GMT Organization: Barb & Helmut Heller Lines: 28 Sender: heller@heller.altoetting-online.de (Helmut Heller) Message-ID: References: <34C551DB.3B8F@cgo.wave.ca> Reply-To: heller@altoetting-online.de NNTP-Posting-Host: heller.altoetting-online.de Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article <34C551DB.3B8F@cgo.wave.ca> writes: > I've taken a voltmeter and carefully checked the pinouts on the old and > new power supply. I don't get any voltage across any pins, but I don't > have the pinouts to know where to look. I've verified my voltmeter is > fine, and the power line into the slab is fine, so the question is: > > (1) does anyone know the pinouts to check for a power supply to know if > it is ok? I can only give you info on the PS of the b&w NeXTstation, but I assume the color one is similar. First, check the battery if it still has 3V (even while you push the power-on key on the keyboard). Now for the pinout, have a look at http://www.lrz.de/~heller and there the eXT power supply repair pages. There is a drawing of the b&w PS pinout. Ah, yes, you need to run the current from the 3V battery INTO the PS to make it turn on. It is described at my web page. Good luck! Helmut -- Servus, Helmut (DH0MAD) ______________NeXT-mail accepted________________ Phone: +49-8671-881665 "Knowledge must be gathered and cannot be given" heller@altoetting-online.de ZEN, one of BLAKES7 FAX: +49-8671-881665 ------------------------------------------------ Dr. Helmut Heller, Muehldorfer Str. 72, 84503 Altoetting, GERMANY #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!169.207.30.81!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 29 Jan 1998 08:02:08 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: manny363@earthlink.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!208.25.48.5!news.inreach.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: free teen girls X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 08:01:47 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-142-18-215.oak.inreach.net X-Original-From: manny363@earthlink.net X-CosmoTraq: ^^I]QHNBI434L,T<;G^V9S-W&FC#T+TQ[T&9:V<*3X1[`2+X99I%_AX1 X-Cancel-ID: )%G%'J6X5R3>SQ?4S-\-=E2)]4[5Z(=4#O]'!/P//::$N25^!1BWA#XO X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!Supernews60!supernews.com!uunet!in1.uu.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!usenet From: Mirko Viviani Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Serial problem with NS3.3p1/intel... Date: 29 Jan 1998 21:52:08 GMT Organization: GMS & EMS development. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <6aqtm8$1ht@next.procom.it> Reply-To: mirko@procom.it NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.184.21.56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Ciao... After two year I was forcing to install a PS/2 mouse to the system since DOS, OS/2 and NT (shit !!) doesn't recognise my serial mouse (3 tested) !! I'm now using a PS/2 mouse with NS3.3p1 FIP w/o problems except one... :( My serial port under NS seems that loose char... connecting with PPP... and locked to 38400 bps... :( I have noted another thing... with serial mouse NS sometimes loose mouse click and with PS/2 this never happened... What's to do ? This is my system: Asus P55TP4XE/256k async cache iP100/32 MB ram AHA-2940UW with 4 devices Millennium 4MB at 1280x1024x16 bpp Mouse Driver (3.33) PS/2 mouse (3.30) Thanks. -- Bye, Mirko (NeXTmail, MIME) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-was.dfn.de!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!news.fanniemae.com!news-admn@fanniemae.com From: Michael R Rousseau Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.advocacy Subject: Re: Rhapsody on PCP? Date: 29 Jan 1998 16:16:51 GMT Organization: Fannie Mae Lines: 26 Message-ID: <6aqa1j$l662@postman.fanniemae.com> References: <34CD7782.3058@shapley.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: rotflmao.staging.fanniemae.com X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.hardware:32129 comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29620 comp.sys.next.advocacy:93713 Oh, Geez, I thought this was an account of Rhapsody _taking_ PCP. Like saying "Windoze on Crack!" or "OS/2 on 'shrooms." Considering all the promise that Apple had when they acquired NeXT, and the apparent direction of Rhapsody now, I think there are some substances still afloat in Cupertino. I thought this subject line was going to explain it all for us. Sorry for the digression. Mike Mark Fardal wrote: >Hi, > >has anyone gotten Rhapsody to work on a Power Computing PowerCenter Pro? >If so please let me know by email. I don't want to sign up for the >developer release without some evidence it'll work. I'd be willing to >run my hard drive off of the slower SCSI instead of through the Adaptec >card. > >thanks, >Mark Fardal #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <8NZz.28785$RR2.6286822@news.inreach.com> Control: cancel <8NZz.28785$RR2.6286822@news.inreach.com> Date: 29 Jan 1998 11:32:38 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: 24manny363@earthlink.net Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!208.25.48.5!news.inreach.com!not-for-mail X-Original-Subject: teen nudes X-Original-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:32:20 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-142-18-234.oak.inreach.net X-Original-From: 24manny363@earthlink.net X-CosmoTraq: J^21R)=BUTET+/(N>=6KB?8;?9GD8Y0*- X-Commentary: Spam is lame. Spammers are bad. Lines: 9 Article cancelled as EMP/ECP, exceeding a BI of 20. The "Current Usenet spam thresholds and guidelines" FAQ is available at http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/tskirvin/faqs/spam.html Please include the X-CosmoTraq header of this message in any correspondence specific to this spam. Sick-O-Spam, Spam-B-Gon! #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!xfer.kren.nm.kr!newsfeed.kornet.nm.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: BongOk Kim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Help With Color Slab Date: 30 Jan 1998 00:37:04 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6ar7bg$bve$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bd2d11$4ee709a0$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> NNTP-Posting-Host: soback.kornet.nm.kr User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980105 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4d)) Trevor Francis wrote: : have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Mega-pixel monitor and soundbox. : Question, I can get the box to turn on (with keyboard), the lights on the : keyboard flash, and then NOTHING displays on the screen. I have re-seated : my SIMMs (I know the box works with this monitor) and the 3V Power supply : has been replaced. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong. This is : my first NeXT box, but I am very fluent with all flavors of UNIX. But since : I can't see anything, then I can't diagnose any error messages it spits : out. : Much Help Needed, : Trevor Francis : trevorf@cyberramp.net Please change the battery on the NeXTstation Color motherboard. younghoon KIL, ppai@bbs.para.co.kr #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.kigam.re.kr!usenet.kornet.nm.kr!not-for-mail From: BongOk Kim Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Read This, disregard previous messages on color slab Date: 30 Jan 1998 03:11:01 GMT Organization: Korea Telecom Lines: 25 Message-ID: <6argc5$kpf$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> References: <01bd2d20$538a0700$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> NNTP-Posting-Host: soback.kornet.nm.kr User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980105 (UNIX) (SunOS/5.5.1 (sun4d)) Trevor Francis wrote: : have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Mega-pixel monitor and soundbox. : Question, I can get the box to turn on (with keyboard), the lights on the : keyboard flash, and then NOTHING displays on the screen. I have re-seated : my SIMMs (I know the box works with this monitor) and the 3V Motherboard : Battery : has been replaced. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong. This is : my first NeXT box, but I am very fluent with all flavors of UNIX. But since : I can't see anything, then I can't diagnose any error messages it spits : out. : Much Help Needed, : Trevor Francis : trevorf@cyberramp.net When you press the power key on the keyboard, Can you hear any sound like air fan? younghoon KIL, ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!psinntp!chapman.com!chapman.com!geordie From: geordie@chapman.com (Geordie Korper) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Printer Recommendations (12/640 Plus, 8500) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 13:59:54 -0600 Organization: Chapman and Cutler Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <6amh62$8mu$1@client2.news.psi.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: korper X-Newsreader: MT-NewsWatcher 2.3.5 X-Face: ?afCWR6x\SS65*u(`M\l0yTLT_moka!A27b;, mitch@digitalcastle.com wrote: :Hello, : : : I am in the market for a new printer and I was wondering if anyone :has any thoughts on the the Apple 12/640 Plus or the 8500. Some of my :questions are does duplex printing work through NEXTSTEP or OPENSTEP. :Also any comments on the overall quality and ease of use would be helpful. On a 8500 I tried selecting the duplex option in the print options under NeXTStep 3.3 and it printed one sided anyway. I had no problem printing to the 8500 other than the duplex option not working. I did verify that the duplex option worked from my Macintosh so despite that you can choose duplex it does not look like it does anything. As far as the printer in general is concerned I have not had any problems with it and would give it high marks. Geordie Korper geordie@chapman.com ********************************************************************* * The text above should in no way be construed to represent the * * opinions of my employer, even if specifically stated to do so. * ********************************************************************* #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: [Q] Formatting 640MB MO disk References: <6apu3g$e5l$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> <6arbh8$a7q@sjx-ixn10.ix.netcom.com> From: John Kheit Reply-To: jkheit@xtdl.com Organization: monoChrome, Inc., NJ, USA X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.8b) NNTP-Posting-Host: whiskey.xtdl.com Message-ID: <34d14e5d.0@206.25.228.5> Date: 30 Jan 98 03:51:57 GMT Lines: 28 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!newsfeed.ecrc.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.25.228.5!206.25.228.5!whiskey.xtdl.com far_no@spam.ix.netcom.com(Felipe A. Rodriguez) wrote > You're going to need a disktab along with a small program to > differentiate between the different media. I've posted these in > the past so just do a search of the old Deja News database for > "M2513A" and "Felipe". > In article <6apu3g$e5l$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> BongOk Kim > writes: > >I have a Fujitsu 640MB MO drive. Use Disk/Initialize menu, I > >tried format a MO disk. But following console message appeared. [snip] > >sd2 (5,0): ERROR op:0x1a sd_state:4 scsi status:0x0 Actually, (I'm not positive, but am pretty sure that) you can and SHOULD do this without a disktab. The trick is to set the jumper on the drive not to "Optical mode" but to "HardDisk mode." That way the mode sense is successful and formats work with no problems. If you don't do this, things like MAC formatting wont work properly. -- Thanks, be well, take care, later, John Kheit; Self expressed... __________________________________________________________________ monoChrome, Inc. ASCII, MIME, PGP, SUN, & NeXTmail OK NeXT/OPENSTEP Developer mailto:jkheit@xtdl.com Telepathy, It's coming... http://www.xtdl.com/~jkheit Franklin Pierce Law Center You're dangerous because you're honest #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!news.voicenet.com!newshost.cyberramp.net!not-for-mail From: "Trevor Francis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Help With Color Slab Date: 29 Jan 1998 23:50:29 GMT Organization: posted via: CyberRamp.net, Dallas, TX (214) 343-3333/(817) 461-8484 for info Lines: 14 Message-ID: <01bd2d11$4ee709a0$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> NNTP-Posting-Host: trevorf.cyberramp.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Mega-pixel monitor and soundbox. Question, I can get the box to turn on (with keyboard), the lights on the keyboard flash, and then NOTHING displays on the screen. I have re-seated my SIMMs (I know the box works with this monitor) and the 3V Power supply has been replaced. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong. This is my first NeXT box, but I am very fluent with all flavors of UNIX. But since I can't see anything, then I can't diagnose any error messages it spits out. Much Help Needed, Trevor Francis trevorf@cyberramp.net fsck MANUALLY. :>[try one more time...] :>/usr/etc/fsck -p /dev/rsd1a :>(null pointer): BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG :>(null pointer): USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE :>(null pointer): SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). :> :>(null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. :>====================================================================== :> :>Can I mounting the NEXTSTEP/Intel Hard disk with my Turbo Color? : <<>> : In this state you can NOT mount the harddisk. You first must do a : /usr/etc/fsck -b -p /dev/rsd1a : where is the location of an alternate superblock. This should be : 16 or 32 or so. Mostly one of this numbers are enough. If not you must find : out some higher number for the superblock-alternative. : good luck : Sven : -- : Sven Droll __ : ______________________________________________________/ / ______ __ : sdroll@mathematik.uni-wuerzburg.de / /_/ ___/ : please remove the NOSPM from my reply-address /_ _/ _/ : =====\_/======= : LOGOUT FASCISM! : ___________________________________________________________________ B Hi Thanx for respond. But I could not mounting my NEXTSTEP/Intel installed hard disk. Please see the following terminal message. ====================================================================== nextdimension:3# nextdimension:4# /usr/etc/fsck -b 32 -p /dev/rsd1a Alternate super block location: 32 (null pointer): BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG (null pointer): USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE (null pointer): SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). (null pointer): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. nextdimension:8# /usr/etc/fsck -b 16 -p /dev/rsd1a Alternate super block location: 16 (null pointer): BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG (null pointer): USE -b OPTION TO FSCK TO SPECIFY LOCATION OF AN ALTERNATE (null pointer): SUPER-BLOCK TO SUPPLY NEEDED INFORMATION; SEE fsck(8). nextdimension:9# nextdimension:10# nextdimension:11# ====================================================================== What's wrong? My hard disk is MAXTOR P1-17S(NEXTSTEP/Intel installed). Here is disktab of MAXTOR P1-17S. ====================================================================== # MAXTOR P1-17S P1-17S|MAXTOR P1-17S|MAXTOR P1-17S w/512 byte sectors as 1 partition:\ :ty=fixed_rw_scsi:nc#1778:nt#19:ns#101:ss#1024:rm#3600:\ :fp#160:bp#0:ng#0:gs#0:ga#0:ao#0:\ :os=sdmach:z0#32:z1#96:r0=a:\ :pa#0:sa#1468136:ba#8192:fa#1024:ca#32:da#4096:ra#10:oa=time:\ :ia:ta=4.3BSD: ====================================================================== Please give more advice and mail me to ppai@bbs.para.co.kr younghoon KIL, ppai@bbs.para.co.kr : NeXT-mail or MIME welcome ;-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.207.0.25!nntp.texas.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!not-for-mail From: "Trevor Francis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Read This, disregard previous messages on color slab Date: 30 Jan 1998 01:37:58 GMT Organization: posted via: CyberRamp.net, Dallas, TX (214) 343-3333/(817) 461-8484 for info Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bd2d20$538a0700$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> NNTP-Posting-Host: trevorf.cyberramp.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Mega-pixel monitor and soundbox. Question, I can get the box to turn on (with keyboard), the lights on the keyboard flash, and then NOTHING displays on the screen. I have re-seated my SIMMs (I know the box works with this monitor) and the 3V Motherboard Battery has been replaced. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong. This is my first NeXT box, but I am very fluent with all flavors of UNIX. But since I can't see anything, then I can't diagnose any error messages it spits out. Much Help Needed, Trevor Francis trevorf@cyberramp.net #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!newsfeed.metronet.de!news-lond.gip.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.103.147.20!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!msunews!not-for-mail From: dan lerner Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Cubes, slabs, and Macs Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:21:03 +0000 Organization: Michigan State University Lines: 18 Message-ID: <34D11CEF.1969@pilot.msu.edu> Reply-To: lernerda@pilot.msu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: pm335-06.dialip.mich.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AUTHid: lernerda X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) X-MD5: 9d69f9082100c302c69947f960eb8134 Greetings! My office has just inherited 15 NeXT machines out of the blue: 12 slabs and 3 cubes, with monitors, keyboards, and mice, and two laser printers. I don't know their specs yet(we have no documentation) but their date-of-manufacture labels say they computers were all built in 1991 and 1992. I am very new to NeXT and want to know if it's possible to get my '040 Mac to talk to one. I've got my eye on those laser printers...how can I connect one to my Mac? Would I need to do to use one of the NeXTStations as a go-between for the Mac and the laser printer? FYI, the Mac is a Performa 630 20/250, 66/33mhz, running Mac OS 7.5.3(soon to be OS 8). Any help you can offer is most appreciated! Feel free to respond by email. Thanks! Dan Lerner lernerda@pilot.msu.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.207.0.25!nntp.texas.net!newshost.cyberramp.net!not-for-mail From: "Trevor Francis" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Read This, disregard previous messages on color slab Date: 30 Jan 1998 05:40:01 GMT Organization: posted via: CyberRamp.net, Dallas, TX (214) 343-3333/(817) 461-8484 for info Lines: 40 Message-ID: <01bd2d42$24c7b080$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> References: <01bd2d20$538a0700$fa4b9ecf@trevorf> <6argc5$kpf$1@news.kornet.nm.kr> NNTP-Posting-Host: trevorf.cyberramp.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Can you read BongOk? I said I can get it to turn on, but I can't get anything up on my screen. Trevor BongOk Kim wrote in article <6argc5$kpf$1@news.kornet.nm.kr>... > Trevor Francis wrote: > : have a NeXTstation Color with a 17" Mega-pixel monitor and soundbox. > : Question, I can get the box to turn on (with keyboard), the lights on the > : keyboard flash, and then NOTHING displays on the screen. I have re-seated > : my SIMMs (I know the box works with this monitor) and the 3V Motherboard > : Battery > : has been replaced. Any suggestions on what I might be doing wrong. This is > : my first NeXT box, but I am very fluent with all flavors of UNIX. But since > : I can't see anything, then I can't diagnose any error messages it spits > : out. > > : Much Help Needed, > > : Trevor Francis > : trevorf@cyberramp.net > > When you press the power key on the keyboard, Can you hear any sound like air fan? > > > > younghoon KIL, > ppai@soback.kornet.nm.kr > http://soback.kornet.nm.kr/~ppai/ > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-east.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!unicorn.it.wsu.edu!davec From: David Smith Cochrane Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Am I being smart? Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 03:10:08 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: unicorn.it.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: davec@unicorn.it.wsu.edu Hi all. I am about to buy a color turbo station with 3.3 on it. What I want to know is that as I am going to sell my powerbook to buy it, will I be able to do all the WP work and email I want for school without having to mess with unix command line horror too much? I also want the machine to learn UNIX better, but I just need reassurance that I am making a smart buy! Thanks for any help, please reply be email!! Dave #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news.ruhr-uni-bochum.de!not-for-mail From: "Winfired Junke" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Install NextStep 3.3 on a no name laptop Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 13:16:37 +0100 Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum Lines: 17 Message-ID: <6asgcd$hbu$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: daylite.neurobiologie.ruhr-uni-bochum.de X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Hi, we want to install NextStep 3.3 on our no name laptop. I think the Hardware is ok, but the setup-routine couldn't detect the CD-Rom. The Problem could be solved by a CD-Rom connected over a external SCSI-controller with a PCMCIA-Interface. We have the choice between three controllers 1. Adaptec APA 2940 2. Adaptec APA 1480A 3. Adaptec APA 1460 which controller is supported by NextStep 3.3. Did you have another idea. Winni #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.65.142!news-feed1.tiac.net!nntp.texas.net!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: "Clemmensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Serial problem with NS3.3p1/intel... Date: 30 Jan 1998 13:46:32 GMT Organization: ObjectWare, Inc. Lines: 43 Message-ID: <01bd2d85$9cd75560$3302cfcf@armaga.texas.net> References: <6aqtm8$1ht@next.procom.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: mnet01-51.austin.texas.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Install the "new" serial port driver for 3.3 and a lot of your problems will most likely go away. Geert Mirko Viviani wrote in article <6aqtm8$1ht@next.procom.it>... > Ciao... > > After two year I was forcing to install a PS/2 mouse to the system since DOS, > OS/2 and NT (shit !!) doesn't recognise my serial mouse (3 tested) !! > > I'm now using a PS/2 mouse with NS3.3p1 FIP w/o problems except one... :( > My serial port under NS seems that loose char... connecting with PPP... and > locked to 38400 bps... :( > > I have noted another thing... with serial mouse NS sometimes loose mouse > click and with > PS/2 this never happened... > > What's to do ? > > This is my system: > > Asus P55TP4XE/256k async cache > iP100/32 MB ram > AHA-2940UW with 4 devices > Millennium 4MB at 1280x1024x16 bpp > > Mouse Driver (3.33) > PS/2 mouse (3.30) > > > Thanks. > > -- > Bye, > Mirko (NeXTmail, MIME) > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.texas.net!news.texas.net!not-for-mail From: "Clemmensen" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Install NextStep 3.3 on a no name laptop Date: 30 Jan 1998 13:48:49 GMT Organization: ObjectWare, Inc. Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bd2d85$f33cf2c0$3302cfcf@armaga.texas.net> References: <6asgcd$hbu$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: mnet01-51.austin.texas.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 I am using #3 in a Toshiba Tecra 72oCDT. Geert Winfired Junke wrote in article <6asgcd$hbu$1@sun579.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>... > Hi, > > we want to install NextStep 3.3 on our no name laptop. > I think the Hardware is ok, but the setup-routine couldn't > detect the CD-Rom. The Problem could be solved by a > CD-Rom connected over a external SCSI-controller > with a PCMCIA-Interface. > We have the choice between three controllers > 1. Adaptec APA 2940 > 2. Adaptec APA 1480A > 3. Adaptec APA 1460 > which controller is supported by NextStep 3.3. > Did you have another idea. > > Winni > > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!130.132.143.65!news.ycc.yale.edu!mango!fischer From: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: tape backup w/ Wangtek 6130 on a M68K Date: 30 Jan 1998 03:08:19 GMT Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-8285 Lines: 62 Message-ID: <6arg73$37v$1@news.ycc.yale.edu> References: <34C788B8.6021@ix.netcom.com> <01bd2710$ad12eaa0$3c02cfcf@armaga.texas.net> <1d3bgcx.urgmzi1foc29sN@[192.168.0.2]> Reply-To: fischer-michael@cs.yale.edu (Michael Fischer) NNTP-Posting-Host: mango.theory.cs.yale.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2az (for az) PL2.1] Timo Hoepfner (t.hoepfner@iname.com) wrote: : Clemmensen wrote: : > > I have a Nextstation Turbo, running Mach 3.0, and I'm trying to use an : > > old external Wangtek 6130 SCSI DAT drive for backups. At boot time, the : > > Wangtek is recognized. However, when I try to issue the command "dump" : > > (with a tape in the drive), I get the error message, : > > : > > "DUMP: NEEDS ATTENTION: Cannot open tape. Do you want to retry the : > > open?" : > : > Do you remember to use the /dev/rst0 device? Also if you are running 3.0 : > you may need to set the driver to I believe its fixed length records. : > : > Try and use: tar cvf /dev/rst0 : I had serious problems doing a backup using either dump or tar from a : turbo color slab to a Wangtek 6130HS DAT streamer. Almost every time : doing a dump/restore/tar, I got a kernel panic. After a few trials, my : Filesystem was broken, and I had to reinstall NEXTSTEP and Apps... : Using an older HP DAT tape makes no problems... The Problem might be in : conjunction with the IBM DPES31080 used in my slab... I've been using a WANGTEK 6130-HS Rev 4B18 tape drive with my m68k (non-turbo) NeXT machine for years. I too had trouble getting it to work at first and did a lot of experimenting with the parameters before I could obtain reliable operation. Here's what I use for a level 0 dump of filesystem /: sleep 30 mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind dump 0ufsb /dev/nrst0 1200000 62 / mt -f /dev/nrst0 rewind mt -f /dev/nrst0 offline These are actually excerpted from a much more complicated script that backs up a whole network of workstations, but this should give the idea. The sleep is there because there seem to be problems if one doesn't wait long enough after inserting a tape cartridge before accessing the tape. The first rewind seems needed to correct occasional problems that occur when a tape is first inserted. I don't recall any more why I have both a rewind and an offline at the end. The reason I use /dev/nrst0 instead of /dev/rst0 is so I can dump more than one filesystem to the same tape. Another thing, the tape drive needs to be turned on and connected when you boot the machine; otherwise the drive isn't recognized. Finally, I'm running NextStep 3.3, not 3.0. One thing that happens at boot time is the script /etc/rc runs the line /usr/etc/stblocksize /dev/nrst0 This puts the drive in variable-block mode. I don't know if NS 3.0 did that or not. If not, you might want to add it to the end of your /etc/rc.local. Hope this all helps. -- ================================================== | Michael Fischer | | Professor of Computer Science | ================================================== #################################################################### Message-ID: <34CCB246.167E@sg3.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:56:54 +0100 From: Martin Strubel X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; IRIX 5.3 IP20) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: SP/DIF i/f for NeXT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: sg3.chemie.uni-konstanz.de Organization: University of Constance, Germany Lines: 15 Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!news.belwue.de!news.uni-konstanz.de!sg3.chemie.uni-konstanz.de Hi, I was wondering whether it would be complicated to tinker a SP/DIF optical interface for the NeXT DSP port to use a DAT as external ADC - has anyone ever made this and could give me some hints ? Greetings, Strubi -- Martin Strubel, University of Konstanz mailto:Martin.Strubel@uni-konstanz.de #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.tuwien.ac.at!news From: rft@cg.tuwien.spam (Robert F Tobler) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Does the Adaptec 2940U2W work with NextStep3.3? Date: 26 Jan 1998 16:06:26 GMT Organization: Vienna University of Technology, Austria Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6aica2$gac@news.tuwien.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: ray.cg.tuwien.ac.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Is it possible to run an Adaptec 2940 U *2* W on a NextStep 3.3 machine? Thanks in advance for any information! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Robert F. Tobler - tel:+43(1)58801-4575,fax:5874932 Institute of Computer Graphics - mailto: replace last domain by Vienna University of Technology - ac dot at #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!server6.netnews.ja.net!singer.cent.gla.ac.uk!usenet From: sbrando@music.gla.ac.uk (Stephen Brandon - please fix my surname in my email address) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: DSP card, sound card, midi card drivers and issues Date: 26 Jan 1998 17:04:37 GMT Organization: University of Glasgow Lines: 77 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6aifn5$1hi@singer.cent.gla.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: clarinet.music.gla.ac.uk (also mailed to mkdist list) Hi all, I'm setting up a lab of PCs running NS3.3, MusicKit, Synthbuilder etc, with reasonable success. There are however a few issues I don't quite understand, and extra things that hopefully could be added to the drivers. 1) the motherboards we have have Yamaha-compatible synths on them, which are allegedly SoundBlaster and MPU401 compatible. I checked DejaNews to see if anyone else had used these and consensus was that these could not work with the SoundBlaster (sound) drivers. NOT TRUE. The SoundBlaster 8 driver runs ok (but then, it's 8 bit and a bit horrible). I don't have a midi cable that will attach to the motherboard to check the midi though. 2) In order to get the above driver to work, as well as in order to get the EtherExpress100B driver to work I had to disable PnP support in the BIOS. Simply disabling PnP from the new EISA driver was not sufficient. 3) The general idea of our setup was that we should have the Pinnacle cards for DSP, SoundBlaster cards for the sound, and the motherboard for the MIDI. (uggh, what a waste when under Windows you can do all 3 and more on 1 card... :-( Unfortunately, because PnP had to be disabled it seems that I cannot use both the on-board sound/MIDI and the SoundBlaster, because they try to use the same IRQs etc. And there are no jumpers on the SB to change them, because it is PnP (so I suppose software configurable). Here's where I do not understand the situation. If I start up a machine in windows, and use PnP, can I then note the settings and use these for the NS configuration? This would assume the settings are remembered by the card whilst the machine is being rebooted. If this is the way to do it, what software do I use to get the settings? Standard software that comes with the sound card, or is there some other PnP configuration utility around? Any help appreciated... 4) I now have 3 sets of sound outputs on the rear of the machine -- DSP, SB, Internal sound (not used of course). The sound output of the CDROM is attached to a sort of internal mixer, that I presume under windows gets mixed with the internal sound before being available from the external jack. Under NS, this mixer is not initialised (or something) so the sound from the CD is not available in this way. A very similar situation exists on the SoundBlaster -- it has quite comprehensive mixing features, that are totally ignored (and turned off) by NeXTSTEP, so I can't get the CDROM sound from there either. :-( How hard would it be to add hooks to the SoundBlaster16 driver that could be called from a mini app with a few sliders to control the mixer? I have downloaded the reference manuals for the SoundBlaster series, and it all looks pretty simple from there... NextDeveloper/Examples/DriverKit has a driver for SB8 which could be modified, but does anyone outside Apple have the official SB16 driver source to patch? Am I the only one wishing for this? What I want to do is to (a) get the CDROM sound running through the SB16 and (b) run a cable from the output of the Pinnacle into the stereo mixing inputs of the SB16 so I can take a single audio output from it. 5) I'll tell you what I really really want -- that's a SB sound and MIDI driver that will work on the same card (please!). I know that there are political issues, but could you add my voice to those calling for it? That's all for now... Cheers, Stephen Brandon Systems Administrator, Department of Music, 14 University Gardens, University of Glasgow, Tel: +44 (0)141 330 6065 Glasgow. Fax: +44 (0)141 330 3518 Scotland G12 8QH PLEASE repair my from address by spelling my surname correctly, if you wish to e-mail me. #################################################################### Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.103.30.111!news.idsc.gov.eg!not-for-mail From: Nenad Andjelic Subject: Re: Am I being smart? Message-ID: <34CD027F.1166E4C8@nebo.infinity.com.eg> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:39:11 -0200 References: Organization: Infinity - Internet Service Provider X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04GoldC-Caldera (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Smith Cochrane Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 21 David Smith Cochrane wrote: > > Hi all. I am about to buy a color turbo station with 3.3 on it. What I > want to know is that as I am going to sell my powerbook to buy it, will I > be able to do all the WP work and email I want for school without having > to mess with unix command line horror too much? I also want the machine to > learn UNIX better, but I just need reassurance that I am making a smart > buy! > > Thanks for any help, please reply be email!! > > Dave Well, let's put it this way. In order to configure everything to work, you might need to fiddle with UNIX a bit. But I have a cheaper solution for you: if you really want to run UNIX, install Linux beside the OS you are already running. Cheers, Ned #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!ais.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!news9.digex.net!digex!news.BLaCKSMITH.com!not-for-mail From: Chuck Swiger Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cubes, slabs, and Macs Date: 30 Jan 1998 19:33:41 GMT Organization: BLaCKSMITH, Inc. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <6at9ul$nve$1@anvil.BLaCKSMITH.com> References: <34D11CEF.1969@pilot.msu.edu> Reply-To: NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.168.8.169 X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) dan lerner wrote: [ ... ] > I don't know their specs yet(we have no documentation) > but their date-of-manufacture labels say they computers were all built > in 1991 and 1992. They are most likely either 25 or 33 Mhz 68040's. You can check by looking at Workspace->Info. > I am very new to NeXT and want to know if it's possible to get my '040 > Mac to talk to one. I've got my eye on those laser printers...how can I > connect one to my Mac? TCP/IP networking would be the best solution. Get something that makes your Mac speak LPD. Another alternative would be something like CAP (Columbia AppleTalk Package), which would make the NeXT's speak the Mac protocols. > Would I need to do to use one of the NeXTStations as a go-between for the > Mac and the laser printer? Yes-- you can't hook a NeXTprinter to anything but a NeXT machine. -Chuck Charles Swiger | chuck@BLaCKSMITH.com | standard disclaimer ---------------+----------------------+-------------------- "Microsoft: we make the easy almost impossible." #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!205.175.105.36!news.wa-k20.net!news.wsu.edu!not-for-mail From: Dave Cochrane Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Moniter Questions!! Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:14:46 -0800 Organization: Washington State University Lines: 14 Message-ID: <34D2189E.308D@wsunix.wsu.edu> Reply-To: davec@wsunix.wsu.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: res148115.resnet.wsu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Hi all, I have a few questions regarding the 17" color Trinitron Sony moniter for NeXT... 1. Does the power supply adapt to different voltages as the computer's does? I will be taking it back to Scotland in June...will I need a transformer to run it at 220V?? 2. Is it possible to get a replacement tilt & swivel stand for this moniter? The one on the system I am about to buy is all cracked... Please respond by email! THANKS!! Dave e > color one is similar. First, check the battery if it still has 3V (even > while you push the power-on key on the keyboard). For what it's worth, the PowerSupply in all NeXTstations seems to be the same Sony unit regardless of mono or color or 25MHz or 33MHz processor speed. -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu new filesystem on /dev/rsd1a > /usr/etc/newfs -n -v /dev/rsd1a . . . Look at which logical disk drive the system thinks it is working with, namely /dev/rsd1a. If this is the external ZIP drive that can be set to SCSI ID 5 or 6, and you have also an internal hard drive (usual SCSI ID=1) and the JAZ drive also connected, it is unlikely that the ZIP drive can be /dev/rsd1a. For instance: internal drive SCSI ID=1 /dev/rsd0a JAZ drive SCSI ID=2 /dev/rsd1a ZIP drive SCSI ID=6 /dev/rsd2a I think that you have hit upon another instance where NeXTstep or whatever it's called these days gets terribly confused if there is more than one removeable-media disk drive on the SCSI bus. There is somewhere in the code an off-by-one problem such that the system starts off identifying logical device "n" and then sends commands to device "n-1". People have had similar problems with combinations of CD readers and JAZ or ZIP or SCSI magneto-optical drives. All of which are in the category of "removeable medium SCSI disk drive". Have you tried formatting the ZIP with the JAZ drive disconnected? carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Cubes, slabs, and Macs Date: 30 Jan 1998 19:19:02 GMT Organization: none Lines: 58 Message-ID: <6at936$pdn$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <34D11CEF.1969@pilot.msu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: lernerda@pilot.msu.edu In <34D11CEF.1969@pilot.msu.edu> dan lerner wrote: > > Greetings! My office has just inherited 15 NeXT machines out of the > blue: 12 slabs and 3 cubes, with monitors, keyboards, and mice, and two > laser printers. I'll resist the urge to be jealous.... > I don't know their specs yet(we have no documentation) but their > date-of-manufacture labels say they computers were all built in 1991 and > 1992. Sounds likely. > I am very new to NeXT and want to know if it's possible to get my '040 > Mac to talk to one. Yup.. see CAPer.app... http://www.this.net/~frank/next_cap.html > I've got my eye on those laser printers EEK! Better hope no one turns it on! :-) Reminds me of the .sig file I saw somewhere: "Do not stare into laser with remaining eye" > ...how can I connect one to my Mac? You can't.... it's just a dumb engine. The NeXT does all the rendering in preparation for printing... > Would I need to do to use one of the NeXTStations as a go-between for the > Mac and the laser printer? YUP! Easy as pie..... well... I haven't done it.... but I've heard CAPer is a great application (There's a lot of cool NeXT stuff at http://www.this.net/~frank/) My webpage was designed to help new NeXT users.. you can find it at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ which also is the same site as the largest NeXTStep FTP site in North America, http://www.peak.org/next/ aka ftp://next-ftp.peak.org/pub/next/ TjL -- My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed1.news.luth.se!luth.se!news-ge.switch.ch!news-zh.switch.ch!news.belnet.be!news.rediris.es!newsfeed.mad.ibernet.es!news.teleline.es!usenet From: "Quake" Newsgroups: comp.hardware,comp.sys.hp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,es.comp.hardware Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?La_RAM_de_mi_placa_base=2C_=A1=A1AYUDA!!?= Date: Sun, 8 Feb 1998 14:07:33 +0100 Organization: TeleLine Lines: 338 Message-ID: <6bkb8h$r46@tsai3.teleline.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.53.209.199 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01BD349A.E6D57A40" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.hp.hardware:35146 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.systems:67085 comp.sys.next.hardware:32264 comp.sys.sun.hardware:55697 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BD349A.E6D57A40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hola espero que me respond=E1is, bueno mi duda es la siguiente: =20 Tengo un buen ordenador (creo): P166MMX 24 Ram VIRGE S3 4Mb=20 CD-ROM 24 Pionner Sound Blaster AWE 64 = Value 2,1 Gb M=F3dem 28800 baudios =20 Deber=EDa ampliar la RAM pues creo que es lo que necesito, aparte de una = aceleradora. Bueno en mi manual de la placa base (82430 TX PCI) pone lo siguiente: =20 SIMM = DIMM Bank -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------- | Bank0 | Bank1 | = DIMM1 | DIMM2 | -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----------------------------------------------------- RAM Type | PM/EDO | FPM/EDO | FPM/EDO/SDRAM | = FPM/EDO/SDRAM| --------------------|-------------------|-----------------------|--------= ----------------------|------------------------------- Single | | | = | | RAM | | | = | | Module | 4/8/16/32/64 | 4/8/16/32/64 | = 8/16/32/64 | 8/16/32/64 | Size(MB) | | | = | | -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------------------------------------------------------=20 =20 Y m=E1s abajo pone las combinaciones de RAM que puedo poner: =20 1. In Bank 0 2. In Bank 1 3. In Bank 0 & bank 1 4. In DIMM 1 5. In DIMM 2 6. In DIMM 1 & DIMM 2 7. In Bank 0 & DIMM 2 8. In Bank 1 & DIMM 1 =20 En el manual pone que aguanta como m=EDnimo 4 Mb de RAM y como m=E1ximo = 256 Mb. Tengo cuatro ranuras para RAM. =20 Seg=FAn todo esto creo que mi placa base aguanta RAMm impar es decir que = no hace falta que sean dos m=F3dulos de RAM luego 4 y as=ED = sucesivamente sino que puedo poner por ejemplo en el Bank 1 una memoria = RAM de 32 EDO y en las DIMM 1 y DIMM 2 poner uno de 8 en cada uno. =20 Mi pregunta es: =BFPuedo poner en el BANK 0 un m=F3dulo de RAM de 32 Mb SIMM EDO = 72contactos En el Bank 1 dejar la que tengo de 4Mb En el DIMM 1 y DIMM 2 dejar los que tengo que son de 8Mb.? =20 En general =BFpuedo quitar el Bank 0 de 4Mb que tengo y poner un = m=F3dulo de RAM de 32 Mb anteriormente nombrado.? =20 Por favor responder pronto. Bueno espero que me respond=E1is sobre todo = despu=E9s de las molestias que me he tomado para explicar lo de la RAM = lo mejor que he podido. =20 Si no puedo hacer todo esto =BFqu=E9 me recomendais en cuanto a ampliar = la RAM? =20 Saludos. randradas@teleline.es MUCHAS GRACIAS.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BD349A.E6D57A40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hola espero que me = respondáis,=20 bueno mi duda es la siguiente:
 
Tengo un buen ordenador = (creo):=20 P166MMX
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = 24 Ram
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = VIRGE S3 4Mb
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = CD-ROM 24 Pionner
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = Sound Blaster AWE 64 Value
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = 2,1 Gb
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              = Módem 28800 baudios
          &nbs= p;            = ;            =              =
Debería ampliar la RAM pues creo = que es lo=20 que necesito, aparte de una aceleradora.
Bueno=20 en mi manual de la placa base (82430 TX PCI) pone lo = siguiente:
 
          &nbs= p;            = ;            = =20 SIMM          &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp;   =20 DIMM Bank
----------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------------------
          &nbs= p;        =20 |   Bank0     =20 |       =20 Bank1     =20 |          &nbs= p;=20 DIMM1      =20 |        =20 DIMM2        =20 |
----------------------------------------------------------------= --------------------------------------------------------------
RAM Type     | = PM/EDO     |   =20 FPM/EDO    | FPM/EDO/SDRAM | FPM/EDO/SDRAM|
--------------------|-------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------|-= ------------------------------
Single        &nb= sp;  =20 |            =       =20 |            =           =20 |            =             &= nbsp;   =20 |            =             &= nbsp;    =20 |
RAM          &= nbsp; =20 |            =       =20 |            =           =20 |            =             &= nbsp;   =20 |            =             &= nbsp;    =20 |
Module          | = 4/8/16/32/64    | 4/8/16/32/64        =20 |         =20 8/16/32/64          =20 |       =20 8/16/32/64          &nb= sp;    =20 |
Size(MB)      =20 |             &nbs= p;    =20 |            =           =20 |            =             &= nbsp;   =20 |            =             &= nbsp;    =20 |
----------------------------------------------------------------= ---------------------------------------------------------------&nb= sp;
 
Y más abajo pone las = combinaciones de RAM=20 que puedo poner:
 
1.    In Bank = 0
2.    In Bank = 1
3.    In Bank 0 & = bank=20 1
4.    In DIMM = 1
5.    In DIMM = 2
6.    In DIMM 1 & = DIMM=20 2
7.    In Bank 0 & = DIMM=20 2
8.    In Bank 1 & = DIMM=20 1
 
En el manual pone que = aguanta como=20 mínimo 4 Mb de RAM y como máximo 256 Mb. Tengo cuatro = ranuras para=20 RAM.
 
Según todo esto creo que mi = placa base=20 aguanta RAMm impar es decir que no hace falta que sean dos = módulos de RAM=20 luego 4 y así sucesivamente sino que puedo poner por ejemplo en = el Bank 1=20 una memoria RAM de 32 EDO y en las DIMM 1 y DIMM 2 poner uno de 8 en = cada=20 uno.
 
Mi pregunta es:
¿Puedo poner en el BANK 0 un = módulo de RAM de 32 Mb SIMM EDO=20 72contactos
En el Bank 1 dejar la que tengo de = 4Mb
En el DIMM 1 y DIMM 2 dejar los que = tengo que son=20 de 8Mb.?
 
En general ¿puedo quitar el Bank = 0 de 4Mb=20 que tengo y poner un módulo de RAM de 32 Mb anteriormente=20 nombrado.?
 
Por favor responder pronto. Bueno = espero que me=20 respondáis sobre todo después de las molestias que me he = tomado=20 para explicar lo de la RAM lo mejor que he podido.
 
Si no puedo hacer todo = esto=20 ¿qué me recomendais en cuanto a ampliar la = RAM?
 
Saludos. randradas@teleline.es
MUCHAS= =20 GRACIAS. 
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01BD349A.E6D57A40-- #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.idt.net!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!wvnvms!wvnvm!ramuna Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: help select memory for 486dx/33 Message-ID: <19980205.130059.635694.NETNEWS@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU> From: "R.Munasinghe" Date: Thu, 5 Feb 1998 10:26:47 -0500 Nntp-Posting-Host: 129.71.48.148 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Lines: 28 I am trying to find the correct simms for my 486dx/33. It takes 30 pin sims. It already has 4mb (four 1mb simms, 3 chips in each). I want to install four 4mb simms (total 16+4 Mb). How do I find which simms to use? ie. Parity/Nonparity (In Cmos Parity check can be enabled or disabled. Does that mean either should work?) 3 chips or 9 chips? Speed? The user's manual says: D-RAM MODE 80ns Fast Page Mode Does that mean I must use 80ns simms or would faster simms work? Also the User's manual says (in specifications): RAM sockets for 41256, 1mb and 4mb Ram module. Does the number 41256 has any meaning that indicates which simms? I tried installing from 2 different vendors and they did not work. Plese help or point me to web page/news group which can help. Ranjith ramuna@wvit.wvnet.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.mindspring.com!usenet From: flickx@mindspring.com (A. Johnson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Dimension board. Date: Sun, 08 Feb 1998 16:08:32 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises, Inc. Lines: 7 Message-ID: <6bkl9t$cus@camel21.mindspring.com> Reply-To: flickx@mindspring.com NNTP-Posting-Host: user-37kb34f.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 8 Feb 1998 16:08:29 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 I'm unclear as to what the NeXT Dimenssion board does. My information seems to suggest that it replaces the motherboard in the NeXT Cube systems and adds some video features to the computer . Can anyone clear this up for me? #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!164.67.42.145!awabi.library.ucla.edu!132.239.254.208!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!news.cs.utah.edu!cc.usu.edu!nntp Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me Message-ID: From: root@127.0.0.1 Date: 8 Feb 98 05:00:23 MDT Reply-To: root@127.0.0.1 References: <01bd2c9c$e93ab120$0b00a8c0@isip19> <6bija5$5ne$2@brie.direct.ca> <6bitk4$ma2$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Nntp-Posting-Host: asy13.xy1.usu.edu X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 20 In <6bitk4$ma2$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > ANTI_SPAM_dreely@cyberstore.ca wrote: > >The Nextstations have built in graphics. The cubes had a 32-bit colour card > >available called the Next Dimension. Since I've never worked with one, I am > >not aware of any 'feature connector'. > > There is an onboard connector for the C-Cube mpeg compression chip that was > promised for the NeXTdimension but never shipped. There are perhaps 7 > prototypes in this universe. > > Otherwise no NeXTs have any feature connector, graphics or otherwise (unless > you consider the DSP port every NeXT has as a feature connector) > > Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Well the cubes only had the biggest "feature connector" you can get. It's called the backplane NuBus. You could connect about any feature you'd like using that. :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!fu-berlin.de!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: NeXT Dimension board. Date: 8 Feb 1998 16:55:51 GMT Organization: none Lines: 17 Message-ID: <6bko2n$g24$1@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6bkl9t$cus@camel21.mindspring.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: flickx@mindspring.com In <6bkl9t$cus@camel21.mindspring.com> A. Johnson wrote: > > I'm unclear as to what the NeXT Dimension board does. My information seems > to suggest that it replaces the motherboard in the NeXT Cube systems and > adds some video features to the computer . Can anyone clear this up for me? It does not replace it, but works with it. I believe they call it a "daughterboard" which does add video performance, and has its own RAM supply. TjL -- NETCOM: The home of pornography, spammers, and other filth My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!howland.erols.net!fastnet!Lehigh.EDU!beigel From: beigel@rbo.eecs.lehigh.edu (Richard Beigel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Is is worth to have 128MB RAM on black turbo Date: 8 Feb 1998 17:25:04 GMT Organization: Lehigh University, Dept. of EE&CS, Bethlehem, PA 18015-3084 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6bkppg$10dg@fidoii.cc.Lehigh.EDU> References: <6b17cm$j2q@eng-ser1.erg.cuhk.edu.hk> NNTP-Posting-Host: rbo.eecs.lehigh.edu X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I didn't notice any performance improvement when I changed from 16meg to 80meg on my b/w turbo slab. --- Richard #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!nntp.abs.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.voicenet.com!nntp.upenn.edu!staff.dccs.upenn.edu!tonyo From: tonyo@staff.dccs.upenn.edu (Tony Olejnik) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: beginners questions re: Color NextStation Date: 9 Feb 1998 00:55:22 GMT Organization: DCCS, University of Pennsylvania Lines: 22 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <6blk5q$vt3$1@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: staff.dccs.upenn.edu Hi, I've been given a color nextstation (I'm missing the mouse, however) Unfortunately, I know nothing about this box (or nextstep). I plugged everything in (except the missing mouse). And, while both the 'slab' and monitor appear to have power applied to it, nothing is displayed. While I figured out how to turn it on (via the "power" button on the keyboard), I don't know how to turn if off (other than unplugging it). Q: is there any sort of 'diags' diskette that I can use to determine if this beast is functional? Q: is there any 'beginners guide to Color Nextstation' info on the web? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance. --tony #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.206.0.75!streamer1.cleveland.iagnet.net!131.103.1.114!news1.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!news.itis.com!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me Date: 8 Feb 1998 22:16:26 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 18 Message-ID: <6blarq$dpk$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <01bd2c9c$e93ab120$0b00a8c0@isip19> <6bija5$5ne$2@brie.direct.ca> <6bitk4$ma2$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-150.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) root@127.0.0.1 wrote: >> Otherwise no NeXTs have any feature connector, graphics or otherwise (unless >> you consider the DSP port every NeXT has as a feature connector) > >Well the cubes only had the biggest "feature connector" you can get. It's >called the backplane NuBus. Opps, I forgot the obvious! :-) But to redeem myself (and give me an excuse for posting this followup) its not actually a NuBus interface but something called the NeXTbus - basically a souped up NuBus. This is important because you can't (as far as I'm aware) plug in a NuBus board and expect it to work. A few NeXTbus board were developed, the most notiable being the NeXTdimension board itself. The rest are only slightly less rare than the C-Cube.... - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!chico.franken.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: (Timothy J. Luoma) NOSPAM@ALL.PLS Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: beginners questions re: Color NextStation Date: 9 Feb 1998 01:57:05 GMT Organization: none Lines: 43 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <6blnph$fko$3@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6blk5q$vt3$1@netnews.upenn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: tonyo@staff.dccs.upenn.edu In <6blk5q$vt3$1@netnews.upenn.edu> Tony Olejnik wrote: > I plugged everything in (except the missing mouse). And, while both the > 'slab' and monitor appear to have power applied to it, nothing is displayed. You'll find that NS is relatively dependent on having a mouse.... Try www.deepspacetech.com (Shannon, you really should have gone for a shorter name ;-) or www.orb.com (like that !) > While I figured out how to turn it on (via the "power" button on the > keyboard), I don't know how to turn if off (other than unplugging it). Power button does both. > Q: is there any sort of 'diags' diskette that I can use to determine if > this beast is functional? No, there isn't. Could the monitor be dead? Is there anyone else around with a NeXTStation? > Q: is there any 'beginners guide to Color Nextstation' info on the web? Unfortunately no, but there is a lot of various bits of information out there.... Hopefully one of them is my webpage: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next/ Feel free to drop me a line if you need some other pointers... Did the person who gave you the machine say it had been working or do they not know? TjL -- NETCOM: The home of pornography, spammers, and other filth My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + next @ luomat.peak.org #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!165.166.15.5!news1.infoave.net!cornwallis.fmarion.edu!rudolph.fmarion.edu!user From: fasano@scarolina.fmarion.edu (Dr. Christopher G. Fasano) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Personal LaserWriter NTR Date: 12 Feb 1998 11:00:34 GMT Organization: Francis Marion University Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: rudolph.fmarion.edu Hi, Has anyone out there successfully connected an Apple Personal LaserWriterNTR to an '040 slab. If so, what cable did you use, and what printcap entry did you use? Any and all help would be appreciated! Please respond via E-mail to fasano@scarolina.fmarion.edu Thanks Chris Fasano Asst. Professor of Physics Francis Marion Univ. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!164.67.42.145!awabi.library.ucla.edu!132.239.254.208!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: beginners questions re: Color NextStation Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:28:52 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 26 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <6bqusk$dav$3@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <6blk5q$vt3$1@netnews.upenn.edu> Reply-To: clowenst@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: tonyo@staff.dccs.upenn.edu In <6blk5q$vt3$1@netnews.upenn.edu> Tony Olejnik wrote: > Hi, > > I've been given a color nextstation (I'm missing the mouse, however) > Unfortunately, I know nothing about this box (or nextstep). > > I plugged everything in (except the missing mouse). And, while both the > 'slab' and monitor appear to have power applied to it, nothing is displayed. There are two ways to connect the Y cable from the CPU to the SoundBox and the Monitor. One of them doesn't work. Specifically, the connector with two cables goes to the CPU box. Don't know if this is your problem, but it's worth looking at. Of course, it is also possible that the monitor intensity is turned all the way down. Some monitors have knobs for this, some don't. > Q: is there any sort of 'diags' diskette that I can use to determine if > this beast is functional? There is some diagnostic checking that is done by the boot ROM. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Phillip Reilly Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Printer problem Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 16:25:41 -0500 Organization: Reilly Medical Offices Lines: 17 Message-ID: <34E368D3.CC664AF4@hhs.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 9970@147.72.71.145 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Any ideas regarding the following problem would be appreciated. I reconditioned a printer with new pickup roller and rebuilt fuser assembly about 1 month ago the printer accounting reports 1,598 prints. Today the printer won't print at all. Specifically it does not seem to receive the command to start printing ( I don't hear a warm up cycle prior to a print job). I replaced the unit with a back-up and it is working fine, would like to get this working so I have a backup. Thanks for any suggestions. mark #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.186.0.13!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news1.radix.net!delphi.dsuper.net!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!tor-nn1.netcom.ca!not-for-mail From: rqctycag@WinDate.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: -Isn't this WOMAN AMAZING? - autopageopen!!beprepared. Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:59:59 EST Organization: None Lines: 28 Message-ID: <6c05uf$du0$269@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: ott-on7-16.netcom.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="PART_BOUNDARY_ZNGMBPNLEK" NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Feb 1998 19:59:59 EST x-no-archive: yes X-Newsreader: 2.0.11 Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:4822 comp.sys.next.hardware:32311 comp.sys.next.marketplace:20306 --PART_BOUNDARY_ZNGMBPNLEK Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii; name="test.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="test.html" Content-Base: "file:///C|/test.html" --PART_BOUNDARY_ZNGMBPNLEK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit a #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.idt.net!nntp2.cerf.net!moon.pepperdine.edu!pepvax!cdvorak From: cdvorak@pepvax.pepperdine.edu (Charles Dvorak) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: RE: Soundbox? Black paint? Date: 13 Feb 1998 03:52:34 GMT Organization: Pepperdine University Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6c0g22$51i@moon.pepperdine.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pepvax.pepperdine.edu >Has anyone successfully taken a can of black spraypaint >to pale toad-belly-colored non-NeXT components? Just last week I took a can of Krylon Int/Ext Black Spray Paint (1601 Gloosy Black) to a 8" BW NCR monitor. It almost looks like a Post Office monitor. A shade too glossy for a Next lookalike but I bet the matte spray would be closer. Now if someone could tell me how to connect it to my Next Dimension board - I'd like to see NextStep on an 8" minimonitor. No sync on green here. cd #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!shell4.ba.best.com!darknerd From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.programmer Subject: NeXT HW Information Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:33:05 -0800 Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: <34DA5DEC.979343ED@alum.mit.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell4.ba.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: 887347988 17340 darknerd 206.184.139.132 In-Reply-To: Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.advocacy:95032 comp.sys.next.hardware:32313 comp.sys.next.programmer:27583 This information is mostly for the Linux/m68k community, but I've posted to these groups for other interested parties. ------------------------------------------------------------------- I've put some NeXT Hardware Information at: http://www.best.com/~darknerd/68K/next/ http://www.best.com/~darknerd/68K/tech/cube.html And of course as said before, I've put the NeXTSTEP Operating Systems Manual at: http://www.best.com/~darknerd/68K/next/OS/ ... or for dowload: ftp://ftp4.ba.best.com/pub/darknerd/os/os.tgz ftp://ftp4.ba.best.com/pub/darknerd/os/os.sit ftp://ftp4.ba.best.com/pub/darknerd/os/os.zip Also, I'm interested very much in someone donating the NeXTBus Developer's kit so that I can convert the information to PDF or HTML. If there's pointers to NS SDK 2.0 for hardware specific documents, let me know. regards, dg #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!uunet!in4.uu.net!nntp.hk.super.net!tst.hk.super.net!not-for-mail From: Jasper Wong Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: driver available for STB Velocity 128 (AGP)? Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:35:36 +0800 Organization: Hong Kong Supernet Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34E3DBA8.69FCF93B@iona.com.hk> References: <5t045f$p50$1@gaea.omnigroup.com> <5t3hri$s8i$1@vader.wolfware.ipc.net> <5t8uk0$hch$1@newshost.uni-koblenz.de> <34E07C2D.2703@pop.interport.net> <6bqi4v$sej$2@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 202.64.249.105 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (WinNT; I) Does anyone know if there is a driver available for STB Velocity 128 (AGP)? I've searched NeXTAnswers for couldn't find one.... Jasper #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!shell4.ba.best.com!darknerd From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:41:18 -0800 Lines: 47 Message-ID: References: <01bd2c9c$e93ab120$0b00a8c0@isip19> <6bija5$5ne$2@brie.direct.ca> <6bitk4$ma2$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> <6blarq$dpk$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: shell4.ba.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: 887348479 17467 darknerd 206.184.139.132 To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu In-Reply-To: <6blarq$dpk$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> Uh, huh. From what I understand is that NeXTBus are direct bus connectors, to that multiple boards can contain processors for the possibity of parrellel processing. The NeXTDimension is a high speed video card with some extra memory for the NeXTcube. NuBus is a limited 20MHz bus standard from Texas Instruments and has the endian ordering of Intel, different from Motorola processors. NuBus '90 is a 40MHz bus. Because Apple chose to follow the endianess of Intel, they had to byte swap the data, reducing the speed by as much as 50% (10MHz and 20MHz respectively). - jm <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ Joaquin Menchaca \ > "Learn to Unlearn" > / Linux/m68k (Macintosh, Amiga) / <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 Feb 1998 bestor@cs.wisc.edu wrote: > Date: 8 Feb 1998 22:16:26 GMT > From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: Re: Can anybody tell me > > root@127.0.0.1 wrote: > >> Otherwise no NeXTs have any feature connector, graphics or otherwise (unless > >> you consider the DSP port every NeXT has as a feature connector) > > > >Well the cubes only had the biggest "feature connector" you can get. It's > >called the backplane NuBus. > > Opps, I forgot the obvious! :-) But to redeem myself (and give me an excuse for posting this > followup) its not actually a NuBus interface but something called the NeXTbus - basically a > souped up NuBus. This is important because you can't (as far as I'm aware) plug in a NuBus > board and expect it to work. A few NeXTbus board were developed, the most notiable being the > NeXTdimension board itself. The rest are only slightly less rare than the C-Cube.... > > - Gareth > --- > Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu > Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor > University of Wisconsin-Madison > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed1.telenordia.se!news.algonet.se!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-backup-west.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!204.156.128.20!news1.best.com!nntp1.ba.best.com!shell4.ba.best.com!darknerd From: Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB vs. Non-adb Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 21:46:10 -0800 Lines: 44 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: shell4.ba.best.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: 887348772 17544 darknerd 206.184.139.132 To: David Baisley In-Reply-To: The NeXT keyboard is a 5 mini-din connector plugging into the monitor, and the NeXT mouse is a 8 mini-din serial plugging into the keyboard. The ADB has identical 4 mini-din connectors, similiar to S-Video connectors. ADB is probaly considered better, because you can interchange, this with other ADB keyboards and mouses used on Macintoshes, like the Logitech trackball. The NeXT mouse (non-ADB) can be exchanged with a Microsoft Bus mouse, but this requires splicing the wires and sodering the connectors into different positions. Check out files at: http://www.peak.org/next/documents/misc/ - joaquin <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \ Joaquin Menchaca \ > "Learn to Unlearn" > / Linux/m68k (Macintosh, Amiga) / / Algun dia, posible NeXT tambien. / <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Feb 1998, David Baisley wrote: > Date: 9 Feb 1998 19:00:34 GMT > From: David Baisley > Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware > Subject: ADB vs. Non-adb > > What are the differences between ADB and non ADB keyboard's and mice? > How can you tell the difference between one and teh other? > Which is better and why if either are? > > Thanks, > David Baisley > david@columbia.edu > > #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-was.dfn.de!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!awabi.library.ucla.edu!132.239.254.208!ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news1.ucsd.edu!not-for-mail From: cdl@proxima.ucsd.edu (Carl Lowenstein) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Long "Y" cables Date: 11 Feb 1998 01:20:18 GMT Organization: University of California at San Diego Lines: 14 Message-ID: <6bquci$dav$2@news1.ucsd.edu> References: Reply-To: clowenst@ucsd.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: proxima.ucsd.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(n) Cc: davec@wsunix.wsu.edu In David Smith Cochrane wrote: > Hi all, anyone know if you can get longer Y cables to replace the pigtail > length one you get with the black hardware? Not very easily. But you can get an extension cable for the leg of the Y that goes to the monitor. It's the same as a monitor extension cable for a Sun SparcStation. carl -- carl lowenstein marine physical lab u.c. san diego clowenstein@ucsd.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news.he.net!news.pbi.net!ppp-206-170-1-45.snfc21.pacbell.net!user From: varah@pacbell.net (Sean Varah) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Pentium Pro VS440FX board and NS 3.3 woes Date: Thu, 12 Feb 1998 15:40:45 -0700 Organization: Harvard Computer Music Center Lines: 62 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-170-1-45.snfc21.pacbell.net Just for those of you who cared or were interested: the problem was me. The jumper for the interrupt on the ASUS SC200 card was set to a non-default setting, and that's why NeXTStep hung on registering the card. I moved it back and everything is fine. The good news is that those Bios-less ASUS cards will work fine on other motherboards. You just can't boot from them. To sum up. I have a new PPro (Venus VS440FX) board running NeXTStep. It boots off an IDE, then uses the SCSI disk as root. This setup works just fine with the ultra cheap NCR SCSI 810 cards from ASUS that have no bios on them. NeXTStep does not need or use the bios. You would only need it if you wanted to boot directly from a SCSI disk. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. Regards, Sean In article , varah@pacbell.net (Sean Varah) wrote: > Thinking I was such a "smart shopper", I bought a "Venus" PPro motherboard > for $86, a PPro 180 ($163), and am now switching my disks over from my old > Pentium. Other than my problem with the floppy drive pin that was missing > on the motherboard (beware of these boards!), things went . . . okay. > > I took the same cards (ATI Pro 2 mb, NCR SCSI 810, AdbMultiwav Pro 18, and > a PCI ethernet card), put them in the PPro system, switched the hard > drives over (2 ide, 1 SCSI), the ram (96 megs), and booted. With some > beating, Windows 95 loaded and ran. NeXTStep looks just great until it > loads the Symbios driver. It finds the NCR card ,the hard drive > "Path 0, ID 0, LUN 0 is MAXTOR MXT-1240s" > > Then it hangs after "Registering: sc0" > > Is it the SCSI driver that's hanging? Or is it whatever loads AFTER the > SCSI card. Any idea of what that might be? Any suggestions on where to go > from here? Any drivers I need to load with the PPro that I didn't need > with the Pentium? > > One potential problem is the NCR card. It's the ASUS version of the card > (without BIOS), though I ran it on my old ASUS board with the bios > disabled with no problems in NeXTStep. > > Your wisdom is much appreciated. > > Regards, > > Sean -------- Sean Varah Visiting Scholar, CCRMA, Stanford University Associate Director (On leave) Harvard Computer Music Center nospam_varah@pacbell.net http://www-mario.harvard.edu/cello/ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news-ge.switch.ch!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cambridge-news.cygnus.com!cygnus.com!kithrup.com!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: sef@kithrup.com Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.marketplace Subject: cmsg cancel <6c05uf$du0$269@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> Date: 13 Feb 1998 02:34:53 GMT Control: cancel <6c05uf$du0$269@tor-nn1.netcom.ca> Message-ID: Sender: rqctycag@WinDate.com X-Cancelled-By: sef@kithrup.com Approved: sef@kithrup.com Lines: 1 Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com #################################################################### From: yonael@vt.edu To: yonael@vt.edu Subject: hard disk problem Date: Mon, 09 Feb 1998 12:22:32 -0600 Reply-To: yonael@vt.edu Message-ID: <887047940.1204944897@dejanews.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Organization: Deja News Posting Service Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!grunt.dejanews.com!not-for-mail X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 09 18:12:22 1998 GMT X-Authenticated-Sender: yonael@vt.edu X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/3.04 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Originating-IP-Addr: 128.173.89.40 (ceage2.ee.vt.edu) Lines: 20 Hello: I ran the BUILDDISK app on a new 4.3GB hard drive but forgot to change the SCSI ID from the factory default of six (6) so that it ended up being formatted as a 40MB swapdisk. I have tried to repartition the drive since then and was able to get three 1.45GB partitions. I have done the NeXTSTEP 3.3 installation with hard drive set at SCSI ID 0 (zero). The problem is that the hard drive is still being recognized as a 40MB swapdisk. Boot process terminates without getting to the NeXT GUI and BUILDDISK appears with the same message (BUILD 40MB swapdisk?) right after booting. Doing an ls on the terminal shows all the typical unix files and directories in place. Is there anyway I can undo this problem? Please let me know and thank you in advance. yona -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!news.columbia.edu!david From: david@watsol.cc.columbia.edu (David Baisley) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: ADB vs. Non-adb Date: 9 Feb 1998 19:00:34 GMT Organization: Columbia University Lines: 7 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: watsol.cc.columbia.edu X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.4.3 UNIX) What are the differences between ADB and non ADB keyboard's and mice? How can you tell the difference between one and teh other? Which is better and why if either are? Thanks, David Baisley david@columbia.edu #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-ham1.dfn.de!gorm.zfn.uni-bremen.de!alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de!f05i From: f05i@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Thilo Huebner) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: NeXT Color to VGA Monitor Date: 13 Feb 1998 11:31:10 GMT Organization: ZfN, University of Bremen, Germany Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6c1atu$aq0$1@gorm.zfn.uni-bremen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] I am looking for a way to connect my Next Color Turbo to a PC monitor. Is there a company that sells the kind of adaptor I need ? Or maybe someone got the pinout to the next monitor output at hand ? thanks for your help, Thilo -- f05i@uni-bremen.de Pave the Earth & Chrome the Moon FON +49-177-2163742 GCS/IT/O d-(--) s:+ a24 C(++) UA++++ UL+ US++ P+ L+ E--- W++ N++ !o !K w+ O- M(+) V-- PS++ PE- Y+(++) PGP++ t+ 5 X++ R- tv+ b++ DI++ D+ G++ e++ h- r++ y+ #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.116!news2.chicago.iagnet.net!qual.net!iagnet.net!newspump.sol.net!sol.net!news.noc.cabal.int!annihilator!cyberspam!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.sys.net-computer.misc,comp.sys.net-computer.sys,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.powerpc.advocacy,comp.sys.powerpc.misc,comp.sys.powerpc.tech,comp.sys.sgi.hardware,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone,comp.unix.pc- Subject: cmsg cancel <6c1fto$f46$11@news1.skynet.be> ignore no reply Control: cancel <6c1fto$f46$11@news1.skynet.be> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 12:56:50 +0000 Sender: "Hanno" From: spamless@pacbell.net Organization: Annihilator v0.2 Approved: y X-Cancelled-By: spamless@pacbell.net X-No-Archive: yes X-Original-Path: ...!newsfeed.internetmci.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!newsfeed.skynet.be!not-for-mail X-Original-From: "Hanno" X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: brus9-17.brussel.skynet.be X-Original-X-Trace: news1.skynet.be 887374584 15494 (None) 195.13.13.17 X-Original-Subject: HANNO COMPUTERS X-Original-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 13:35:37 +0100 X-Cancel-ID: 'V'KL#A+Z4KFR@PZKL%S:T^1&^!H>QEZ%OH\:M[QHYM_P4L0F*M)JD8J Lines: 2 Spam (EMP) cancelled - multiposted binary files BI=29.78 SPAM ID=DPPBLAMINJDEDJIBGIJIMMPGJNGFMHAK #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!news.muc.de!news.space.net!fu-berlin.de!howland.erols.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!chicago-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.itis.com!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: ADB vs. Non-adb Date: 9 Feb 1998 19:51:57 GMT Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 29 Message-ID: <6bnmot$1d1a$1@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: Reply-To: bestor@cs.wisc.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: f209-147.net.wisc.edu X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) david@watsol.cc.columbia.edu (David Baisley) wrote: >What are the differences between ADB and non ADB keyboard's and mice? uhh, one is ADB compatible and the other isn't? >How can you tell the difference between one and teh other? non-ADB mice are rectangular whereas ADB are circular with two protruding buttons. ADB keyboards have a green power key, non-ADB don't (there's a _lot_ more differences but this is the simplest to describe). >Which is better and why if either are? Neither gives you additional functionality - both get the job done. The non-ADB have a more solid feel which some people prefer, the ADB is a little more ergonomic (IMHO) and you get the benefit of being able to use it on a Mac or substitute your favorite Mac mouse/keyboard instead (note - the latter constitutes blasphemy :-). Also, ADB NeXT boxes can run either ADB or non-ADB keyboards+mice, provided you have the corrresponding soundbox too, whereas non-ADB boxes only run non-ADB keyboard+mouse. In that sense you're slightly better off getting an ADB NeXT box if you're still unsure which you prefer. Hope that helps, - Gareth --- Gareth Bestor bestor@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Department http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~bestor University of Wisconsin-Madison #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newscore.univie.ac.at!03-newsfeed.univie.ac.at!news.univie.ac.at!not-for-mail From: "Ing.Klaus Hartmann" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Driver for Number9 Revolution 3D, 4MB, AGP Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 14:16:35 +0100 Organization: Vienna University, Austria Lines: 22 Message-ID: <34E447B3.462BBC66@unet.univie.ac.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: uvo-116.univie.ac.at Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [de] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Can anyone help me with my problem: I´ve got an GraphisAdapter Number9 Revolution 3D, 4MB which is supportet with a driver from NextAnswers but only with the PCI-Version ! Has anyone adapted this driver for AGP or knows what changes are to make ??? Please, help I´ve tried pretty much to get this driver working (patching the code with GDB, playing around with the .config-File and so on...) btw: my configuration: Pentium II, 233 MMX, Asus P2L97, Quantum 4.3GB SE, 64 MB SDRAM I´m looking forward to get this shit working, bye and thank you, Klaus (a9027721@unet.univie.ac.at) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!sol.net!newspeer.sol.net!adiron!rauug!bofh.int!nocemed!cyberspam!not-for-mail From: Cosmo Roadkill Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: cmsg cancel <6c16en$2ae@news-central.tiac.net> Control: cancel <6c16en$2ae@news-central.tiac.net> Date: 13 Feb 1998 10:16:21 GMT Organization: BOFH Space Command, Usenet Division Message-ID: Sender: suzie Approved: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-No-Archive: yes X-Cancelled-By: cosmo.roadkill%bofh.int@rauug.mil.wi.us X-Original-Path: ...!wnfeed!worldnet.att.net!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.65.142!news-feed1.tiac.net!posterchild2!news@tiac.net X-Original-Subject: ADULT ONLY CINDY.JPG X-Original-Date: 13 Feb 1998 10:14:47 GMT X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p0.ts3.derry.nh.tiac.com X-Original-From: suzie X-CosmoTraq: IZP;T$V^#\3>U#56C"AM1WCM3"<1IWG[J5C(7T1R;]I@&"S06J)\C`%% X-Cancel-ID: 9AFN!W2'0`V>$==#;H%\-I9)WC>DMW`]SD$'0YGU.>@;?YQ X-Commentary: Spam is lame. 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If you like free xxx pic's that is. =) http://members.tripod.com/~link2it #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!news-nue1.dfn.de!news-lei1.dfn.de!news-ber1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!howland.erols.net!newshub2.home.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.nj.home.com!not-for-mail From: NOSPAM@ALL.PLS (Timothy Luoma) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Matrox Mill. 8MB 1600x1200 555/16 in 4.2 Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:06:03 GMT Organization: none Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6d4eer$5gb$9@ha2.rdc1.nj.home.com> References: <6d3rns$mtf@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc344191-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: wolfgang.roeckelein@wiwi.uni-regensburg.de Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.bugs:4831 comp.sys.next.hardware:32373 In <6d3rns$mtf@rrzs3.uni-regensburg.de> Wolfgang Rpckelein wrote: > Does anybody have driver version between 4.0 and 4.9 (exclusive) anymore? If > so, could you mail me 'em? I have just sent him 4.0.... I don't have an the 8MB version so I can't test that mode. What refresh rate were you using? TjL -- Anyone done with their Prelude to Rhapsody CD? My FROM address is fake. Too much spam. I will check for followups. If you want to email me, remove the spaces and use this address: luomat + NeXT @ luomat.peak.org (note capitalization pls :-) #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!rzg.mpg.de!news-mue1.dfn.de!news-stu1.dfn.de!news-kar1.dfn.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!202.216.224.169!news.dti.ad.jp!news2.dti.ad.jp!news-jp-0.abone.net!np0.iij.ad.jp!news.iij.ad.jp!web2!cskdaemon!not-for-mail From: "Yoshitaka Takamura" Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Trouble with ATI Rage Pro 3D Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 17:11:29 +0900 Organization: CSK Corporation,Japan Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6d3781$o4i$1@cskdaemon.cske.csk.co.jp> References: <34F3033E.456F0D77@imaginet.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: ml204.mlab.csk.co.jp Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Hello, Try this driver. It maybe works well. http://enterprise.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2546.htmld/2546.html http://ent.apple.com/NeXTanswers/HTMLFiles/2516.htmld/2516.html ---- Yoshitaka Takamura #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeeds.sol.net!uwm.edu!newsspool.doit.wisc.edu!wiscnews.wiscnet.net!news From: Milo Velimirovic Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Q - laptop recommendation Date: 26 Feb 1998 19:24:49 GMT Lines: 16 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6d4fi1$tk0@wiscnews.wiscnet.net> Reply-To: milov@uwlax.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: toes.its.uwlax.edu Keywords: OPENSTEP NEXTSTEP laptop Xref: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de comp.sys.next.sysadmin:29857 comp.sys.next.hardware:32375 Hi, We're looking for recommendations and or experiences with NEXTSTEP/OPENSTEP/(Rhapsody?) on notebooks. Particularly interested in what's available that will support a 1024*768 display. TIA, Milo - Milo Velimirovic Unix Computer Network Administrator (608) 785-8030 Information Technology Services -- Network Services University of Wisconsin - La Crosse La Crosse, Wisconsin 54601 USA 43 48 05 N 91 14 22 W #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!isar.de!news.muenchen.roses.de!newsfeed2.ecrc.net!news.mindspring.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.syd.connect.com.au!phaedrus.kralizec.net.au!not-for-mail From: Greg Shaw Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Re: Need help printing with HP 890C and gs or JetPilot Date: 21 Feb 1998 04:36:19 GMT Organization: Zeta Internet, http://www.zeta.org.au/ Lines: 37 Message-ID: <6cllk3$27m$1@phaedrus.kralizec.net.au> References: <6cbt50$2go$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: d75.syd2.zeta.org.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: RadicalNews (TM) 0.9.3 Beta(i) Cc: tvz@Princeton.EDU In <6cbt50$2go$1@cnn.Princeton.EDU> Timothy Van Zandt wrote: > I have a new HP 890C connected to the parallel port of > a Dell P200. > > I installed GhostScript 5.10 precompiled and GSPrintFilter 1.3. > I tried both the cdj550 and cdj850 drivers. > But I get no response from the printer. lpq reports ``printer offline''. > > I then installed JetPilot 2.3, and tried the 870 driver. When I try > printer, and just get an error window that ``Some or all of the pages > could not be printed''. > > The printer works fine with Win95, and so the parallel port connection > is OK. > > Any suggestions? > > Tim Tim, I do not know the cause but here are the feature of this problem that I have noticed and how I get around it. The first time I print something I get the message you mentioned. If I look in the PrintManager queue the file has no size next to it. Leave it there. Print the file again. This time this file will have size in the queue. Now delete the first one and the second one will start to print miraculously. IT appears to me that what happens is that with an empty queue JetPilot is unable to process the file before some point of no re-return. With a file in the queue it all works fine but you have to delete it to get the second file out. Hope this helps. Cheers, Greg Shaw. #################################################################### Path: news.informatik.uni-muenchen.de!lrz-muenchen.de!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.117.161.1!csn!nntp-xfer-1.csn.net!boulder!pb From: pb@Colorado.EDU (PB Schechter) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware Subject: Loading NS onto a new hard drive Date: 21 Feb 1998 19:43:14 GMT Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder Lines: 28 Message-ID: <6cnaoi$8t3@lace.colorado.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: morse.colorado.edu NNTP-Posting-User: pb I am trying to put together the pieces of a slab, and am having some difficulty. Here's what I have, and what I'm trying to do: I have a complete slab, but with a "blank" hard disk. In addition, I have NS 3.2 on CD-ROM, and a "generic" (Toshiba, actually) external CD-ROM drive. I am trying to format/initialize the hard disk, and load NS onto it, but have not managed to do it, so far. I would appreciate it if someone could point me to a list of the steps that I must go through in order to do this. Here is what is currently happening: On my working slab (that I would like to upgrade to 3.2), the CD-ROM drive is recognized by manufacturer, model number, and SCSI ID, and it is assigned as sd1. (I am booting in verbose mode, and so I see this all on the ROM monitor.) However, when I put the CD-ROM into the CD-ROM drive, the CD-ROm is ejected after a few seconds. I have tried a different CD-ROM drive, and a different cable, with identical results (except that the manufacturer and model number are reported as different--and correct). On the slab with the new hard disk, when I try to boot (using "bfd") from the floppy installation disk that comes with 3.2, I get an exception (#3, I think; it may be #2). The CD-ROM drive still ejects the CD-ROM. So, I would appreciate any suggestions, or a pointer to any information, on how to get this to work correctly. Thanks in advance for the help. PB Schechter pb@colorado.edu